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BY  virtue  of  His  Majesty's  Commission  under  the  Great  Seal,  and  in  obedience 

to  His  Majesty's  Commands,  Parliament  was  prorogued  on  the  above-mentioned 

day  to  Tuesday  the  Sixteenth  day  of  February  next,  to  be  then  here  holden. 

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Session  1909. 

The  Twenty-eighth  Parliament  of  the  United  Kingdom  ot  

Great  Britain  and  Ireland.  


[No.  1.] 

Tuesday, 16th February  1909. 
Prayers  at  Two  of the  clock. 

Message to 
attend  His 
Majesty. 

A  M E S S A GE 
from  His  Majesty,   by 
jl\.  Admiral  Sir Henry Frederick  Stephenson, 
Gentleman  Usher of  the Black  Rod  : 

Mr.  Speaker, 

The  King commands  this  Honourable  House 
to  attend  His  Majesty  immediately,  in  the 
House  of  Peers. 

Accordingly  Mr.  Speaker,  with  the  House, 
went  up  to  attend  His  Majesty :—And  having 
returned  ; 

Miv Speaker  resumed  the  Chair  at  Four  of 
Writs issued 
in  the  Recess,  the  clock ;  and  acquainted  the  House  that  he 
had  issued,  during  the  Recess,  a  Warrant  to 
the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make  out  a  new 
Writ for  the Election  of  a Member  to  serve in 
this  present  Parliament  for  Warwick  County 
(Northern  or Tamworth  Division),  in  the  room 
of  Sir  Philip  Muntz, Baronet, deceased. 

Taunton 
Borough 
n  ' 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his 
Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make 
out a new  Writ for  the electing  of a Member  to 
serve in this present Parliament for the Borough 
of Taunton, in  the  room  of  Sir  Edward  Boyle, 
Baronet,  who,  since  his  Election  for  the  said 
borough, hath accepted  the  Office of  Steward or 
Bailiff of  His Majesty's Manor of  Northstead, in 
the  County  of  York.— (Sir  Alexander Acland-
Hood.) 

Forfar  County  Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his 
Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make 
Writ. 
out a new Writ  for the electing of  a Member  to 
serve  in this present Parliament  for the  County 
of Forfar, in the  room of the Right  Honourable 

VOL.  164. 

John  Sinclair,  who,  since  his  Election  for  the 
said county, hath accepted the Office of  Steward 
or  Bailiff  of  His  Majesty's  Three  Chiltern 
Hundreds of  Stoke,  Desborough,  and  Burnham, 
in  the  County  of  Buckingham.—(Mr.  Joseph
Pease.} 

.Francis  Alexander New dig ate- Newdegate,  Es-New  Member 

quire, Member  for  Warwick  County  (Northern  sworn, 
or  Tamworth  Division),  was sworn. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  he  imprisonment 
had  received  the  following  Letter  from  t h e ^r  JamesT 
Clerk  of  the Crown  in Ireland, relating  to  the Karrelh)168 
Imprisonment  of  Mr. James Farrell, a  Member 
of  this  House : — 

In  the  High  Court  of 

Justice  in Ireland, 
King's Bench  Division, 
Crown  Side, 
23rd December  1908. 

Sir, 

I  have  to  inform  you  that  at a Court of this 
Division  held  yesterday,  Tuesday  the  22nd day 
of December  instant (the  Right  Honourable  the 
Lord  Chief  Baron  presiding),  James  P.  Farrell, 
Esquire,  Member of Parliament for  the  County 
of  Longford,  was,  in  default  of  entering  into 
sureties to  be  of  good  behaviour  and  keep  the 
peace, committed  to prison  for the period of six 
months, or  until  he  should  sooner  enter  into 
such recognisance  for that purpose with sureties. 

I  am, Sir, 
Your  obedient servant, 
JAMES  O ' B R I E N, 

Clerk  of  the  Crown. 

To  the  Right  Honourable  the  Speaker,  


House of  Commons.  


Ordered,  That all  Members  who are returned  Elections, 

for two  or more places in any part of the United 
Kingdom  do  make  their  election  for  which  of 
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the  places  they  will  serve  within  one  week  after 
it  shall appear  that  there  is no  question  upon  the 
Return  for  that  place  ;  and  if  anything  shall 
come  in  question  touching  the  Return  or  Elec-
tion  of  any  Member,  he  is  to  withdraw  during 
the  time  the  matter  is  in  Debate  ;  and  that  all 
Members  returned  upon  double  Returns  do 
withdraw  till  their  Returns  are  determined. 

Resolved,  That  no  Peer  of  the  Realm,  except 
such Peers  of  Ireland as shall, for  the time  being, 
be  actually  elected,  and  shall  not  have  declined 
to  serve,  for  any  county,  city,  or  borough  of 
Great  Britain,  hath  any  right  to" give  his  vote 
in  the  Election  of  any  Member  to  serve  in 
Parliament. 

it 

A  Motion  was  made,  and  the  Question  being 
is  a  high  infringement  of  the 
put,  That 
Liberties  and  Privileges  of  the  Commons  of  the 
United  Kingdom  for  any  Lord  of  Parliament, 
or  other  Peer  or  Prelate,  not  being  a  Peer  of 
Ireland  at  the  time  elected,  and  not  having 
city,  or 
declined  to  serve,  for  any  county, 
borough  of  Great  Britain,  to  concern  himself  in 
the Election of Members  to serve for the Commons 
in  Parliament,  except  only  any  Peer  of  Ireland, 
at  such  Elections  in  Great  Britain  respectively 
where  such  Peer  shall  appear  as  a  candidate,  or 
by  himself,  or  any  others,  be  proposed  to  be 
elected  ;  or for any Lord  Lieutenant or  Governor 
of  any  county  to  avail  himself  of  any  authority 
derived  from  his  Commission  to  influence  the 
the 
Election  of  any  Member 
Commons in Parliament—(The Prime Minister)  ; 

to  serve  for 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  R i g h t; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 

Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Godfrey  Baring, 

Yeas, 

t Mr.  George  Faber  : 

Tellers  for  t h e f M r.   Swift  MacNeill, 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Curranx 

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So it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 
Resolved,  That  if  it  shall  appear  that  any 
person  hath  been  elected  or  returned  a  Member 
of  this  House,  or  endeavoured  so  to  be,  by 
Bribery,  or  any  other  corrupt  practices,  this 
House  will  proceed  with  the  utmost  severity 
against  all  such  persons  as  shall  have  been 
wilfully  concerned  iu  such  Bribery  or  other 
corrupt  practices. 

Resolvedi  That  if 

it  shall  appear  that  any 
person  hath  been  tampering  with  any  Witness 
in  respect  of  his  evidence  to  be  given  to  this 
House,  or  any  Committee  thereof,  or  directly 
or 
indirectly  hath  endeavoured  to  deter  or 
hinder  any  person  from  appearing  or  giving 
evidence,  the  same  is  declared  to  be  a  high 
crime  or  misdemeanour;  and  this  House  will 
proceed  with  the  utmost  severity  against  such 
offender. 

Resolved,  That  if  it  shall  appear  that  any 
in  any  case 
person  hath  given  false  evidence 
before  this  House,  or  any  Committee  thereof, 
this  House  will proceed  with  the  utmost  severity 
against  such  offender. 

Ordered,  That  the Commissioners of  the  Police 
of  the  Metropolis  do  take  care  that,  during  the 
Session  of  Parliament,  the  passages 
through 
the  streets  leading  to  this  House  be  kept  free 
and  open,  and  that  no  obstruction  be  permitted 
to  hinder  the  passage  of  Members  to  and  from 
this  House,  and  that  no  disorder  be  allowed  in 
Westminster  Hall,  or  in  the  passages  leading  to 
this  House,  during  the  Sitting  of  Parliament, 
and  that  there  be  no  annoyance  therein  or 

Witnesses. 

Metropolitan 
Police. 

thereabouts;  and  that 
the  Serjeant-at-Arms 
attending  this  House  do  communicate  this  Order 
to  the  Commissioners  aforesaid. 

Ordered,  That  the  Votes  and  Proceedings  of  Votes  and 
this  House  be  printed,  being  first  perused  by  Proceedings. 
Mr.  Speaker;  and  that  he  do  appoint  the 
printing  thereof;  and  that  no  person  but  such 
as  he  shall  appoint  do  presume  to  print  the 
same. 

Ordered,  That  a  Committee  of  Privileges  be  Privileges, 

appointed. 

A  Bill  for  the  more  effectual  prevehting  Outlawries 

clandestine  Outlawries  was  read  the  first  time ;  Bil1-
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time. 

Ordered, That  the Journal  of  this  House,  from  Journal, 

the  end  of  the  last  Session  to  the  end  of  the 
present  Session,  with  an  Index  thereto,  be 
printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Journal  and  Index 
be  printed  by  the  appointment  and  under  the 
direction  of  Sir  Courtenay  Peregrine  Ilbert, 
K . C . B .,   K . C . S . I .,   C . I . E .,   the  Clerk  of  this  House. 
Ordered,  That  the  said  Journal  and  Index 
be  printed  by  such  person  as  shall  be  licensed 
by  Mr.  Speaker;  and  that  no  other  person  do 
presume  to  print  the  same. 

The 

following  Papers,  presented  by  His 
Majesty's  Command  during  the  Recess,  were 
delivered  to  the  Librarian  of  the  House  of 
Commons  during  the  Recess,  pursuant  to  the 
Standing  Order  of  the  14th  August  1896 

Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, 

Annual  Series,  Nos.  4176  to  4181. 

Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  Consnlar  Reports, 

Miscellaneous  Series,  Nos.  672  to  674. 

in 
Copy  of  Regulations  respecting  Trade 
Tibet  (amending  those  of  5th  December  1893) 
concluded  between  the  United  Kingdom,  China, 
and  Tibet.  Signed  at  Calcutta,  J!0th  April 
Ratifications  exchanged  at  Peking,  14th 
1908. 
October  1908. 

Parliamentary 
Papers 
(Kecess.) 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Trade  Reports 
(Miscellaneous 
Series.) 
Treaty  Series 
(No.  35,  1908.) 

Copy  of  Accession  of  German  Protectorates 
to  the  Berne  Copyright  Convention  of  9th 
September  1886,  and  to  the  additional  A ct   and 
Declaration.  Signed  at  Paris,  4th  May  1896. 
1st  January  1909. 

Treaty  Series 
(No.  36,  1908.) 

Copy  of  Agreement  between  the  United 
Kingdom  and  the  Netherlands •  respecting  the 
Exchange  of 
Signed  at  The  Hague,  1st  December  1908. 

Insured  Letters  and  Boxes. 

Treaty  Series 
(No.  37,  1908.) 

Copy  of  Despatch from  His  Majesty's  Charge 
a'Affaires  at  Rio  de  Janeiro,  enclosing  a 
Translation  of  a further  Decree  regulating  the 
Naturalisation  of  Aliens  in  Brazil. 

Nationality 
and  Naturali-
sation 
(Miscel-
laneous, 
No.  1,  1909.) 

Copy  of  Correspondence 

the 
Revised  Convention  of  Berne  for  the  Protection 
of  Literary  and  Artistic  Works.  Signed  at 
Berlin,  13th  November  1908. 

respecting 

Convention  of 
Berne 
(Miscel-
laneous, 
No.  2,  1909.) 

Copy  of  further  Correspondence  respecting  Africa 

the  Taxation  of  Natives  and  other  questions  in  CNo- J>1909-) 
the  Congo  State. 

Copies  of  Reports,  Nos.  591 

(Leeward  Colonial 

Islands,  Report  for  1907-8),  592  (East  Africa  &ePort3.. 
Protectorate,  Report  for  1907-8),  593  (Bechu-*- 
J 
analand  Protectorate,  Report  for  1907-8),  594 
(Northern  Nigeria,  Report  for  1907-8). 

Copy  of  Report  of  the  Resident  General  of  straits 

the  Federated  Malay  States  for  1907. 

Settlements. 

Copy  of 

further  Correspondence  relating  Africa, 

to  the  Preservation  of  Wild  Animals  in  Africa. 

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1 Qth  February. 

5 

Old  Age 
Pensions  Act, 
1908. 

Copy  of  Financial  Instructions  for  Pension 
Committees  and  Sub-Committees  (revised  1st 
January  1909). 

Copy  of  Return  of  Advances  made  under  the  Irish Land 
Irish  Land  Act,  1903, during the months of  May,  Commission. 
June,  and  July  1908. 

Railway 
Accidents. 

Statistical 
Abstract 
(British 
Empire.) 

French 
Customs 
Tariff. 

Railway 
Employment 
(Safety 
Appliances.) 

Light 
Railwavs  Act, 
1896. 

Light 
Railways  Act, 
1896. 

Light 
Railways  Act, 
1896. 

Light 
Railways  Act, 
1896. 

Light 
Railways  Act, 
1896. 

Unemployed 
Workmen  Act, 
1905. 

Copy  of  Returns  of  Accidents  and  Casualties, 
as reported to the  Board  of  Trade  by  the  several 
Railway  Companies  in  the  United  Kingdom, 
during  the  three  months  ended  30th  September 
1908,  together  with  Reports  of  the  Inspecting 
Officers  of  the  Railway  Department  to 
the 
Board  of  Trade  upon  certain  Accidents  which 
were  inquired  into. 

Copy  of  Statistical  Abstract  for  the  British 
Empire  in  each  year  from  1893  to  1907.  Fifth 
Number. 

Copy  of  Translation  of  the  proposed  new 
French  Customs  Tariff,  as recommended  by  the 
Customs  Commission  of  the  French  Chamber  of 
Deputies. 

Copy  of  Analysis  by  the  Railway  Employ-
ment  Safety  Appliances Committee of  Accidents 
which  have  occurred  in  coupling  and  uncoupling 
Railway  Vehicles,  reported  to  the  Board  of 
Trade  in  1907. 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Light  Railway 
Commissioners  under  the  Light  Railways  Act, 
1896,  and  modified  and  confirmed  by  the  Board 
of  Trade,  authorising  the  construction  of  a 
Light  Railway  in  the  County  of  Lincoln  (Parts 
of  Lindsey), from Barton to  Immirigham  (Barton 
and  Immingham  Light  Railway  Order,  1908). 

Copy  of  Return  under  Section  7  of  the  Land  Land  Law 

Law  (Ireland)  Act,  1887,  of  the  number,  o f ^ ®^ 
Eviction  Notices  filed  in  the  High  Court  of  (Eviction 
Justice  and  County  Courts  in  Ireland  during  Notices.) 
the  quarter  ended  on  the  31st  December  1908. 

Copy  of  Return  of  Evictions  in  Ireland  for  Evictions 
(Ireland.) 

the  quarter  ended  31st  December  1908. 

Copy  of  .Second  Appendix  to  the  Fourth  Irish  Railways 

Report  of  the  Viceregal  Commissioners  on  Irish  (Viceregal 
Railways. 

Commission.) 

Copy  of  Special  Reports  on  Educational  Board of 
Subjects.  Volume  22.  Provision  made  for E d u o a t i o n-
Children  under  compulsory  School  A ge  
Belgium,  France,  Germany,  and  Switzerland. 

in 

Copy  of'  the  Seventieth  Annual  Report  of   Births, 
the  Registrar  General  of  Births,  Deaths,  and  Deaths,  and 
Marriages  in  England  and  Wales,  1907. 

Marriages. 

Copy  of  Result  of  Test  of  Gunlayers  with Navy 

Heavy  Guns  in  His  Majesty's  Fleet,  1908. 

(Gunnery.) 

Copy  of  Reply  to  Representations  and  State-  E a s t India 
ments  submitted  by  Sir  Herbert  Roberts,  M . P .,   ^dmTnistra-
relative  to  Excise  Administration  in  India. 

tion.) 

Copy  of  Report  on  Administration  of  Famine  East  India 
Relief  in  the  United  Provinces  of  Agra  and  (Famine.) 
Oudh  during  the  years  1907  and  1908. 

Copy  of  Return  under  the  Aliens  Act,  1905,  Aliens  Act, 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Light  Railway 
Commissioners  under  the  Light  Railways  A c t, 
1896,  and  confirmed  by  the  Board  of  Trade, 
amending 
(Nidd 
Valley  Transfer)  Light  Railway  Order,  1904 
(Bradford  Corporation 
(Nidd  Valley)  Light 
Railway  Orders  (Amendment)  Order,  1908). 

the  Bradford  Corporation 

of  Alien  Passengers  brought  to  the  United  1 9 0 5, 
Kingdom  from  Ports  in  Europe,  or  within  the 
Mediterranean  Sea,  during  the  three  months 
ending  31st  December  1908,  together  with  the 
number  of  Expulsion  Orders  made  during  that 
period  requiring  Aliens  to  leave  the  United 
Kingdom. 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Light  Railway 
Commissioners  under  the  Light  Railways  Act, 
1896,  and  modified  and  confirmed  by  the  Board 
of  Trade,  extending  the  periods  limited  by  the 
Tickhill  Light  Railway  Order,  1901, as  amended 
by  the  Tickhill  Light  Railway  (Extension  of 
Time)  Order,  1904, for  the  compulsory  purchase 
of  Lands  and  for the  completion  of  the  railways 
and  works  thereby  authorised,  and  authorising 
the  transfer  to  the  Great  Northern  Railway 
Company  of  the  powers  conferred  by  these 
Orders on the  Tickhill  Light  Railway  Company, 
and  giving  powers 
for  the  construction  of 
additional  lines,  and for other  purposes  (Tickhill 
Light  Railway 
(Amendment  and  Transfer) 
Order,  1908). 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Light  Railway 
Commissioners  under  the  Light  Railways  A c t, 
1896,  and  modified  and  confirmed  by  the  Board 
of  Trade,  authorising  the  construction  of  Light 
Railways  in  the  City  of  York,  and  in  the  Rural 
District  of  Escrick,  in  the  East  Riding  of  the 
County  of  York 
(York  Corporation  Light 
Railways  Order,  1908). 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Light  Railway 
Commissioners  under  the  Light  Railways  Act, 
1896,  and  modified  and  confirmed  by  the  Board 
of  Trade,  authorising  the  construction  of  a 
Light  Railway  from  Sleaford  to  Kirkstead,  in 
the  Parts  of  Kesteven  and  the Parts of  Lindsey, 
in  the  County  of  Lincoln  (Mid  Lincolnshire 
Light  Railway  Order,  1908). 

Copy  of  Report  of  the  Local  Government 
Board  for  Scotland  under  the  Unemployed 
Workmen  Act,  1905,  as  to  the  Proceedings  of 
Distress  Committees  in  Scotland  for  the  year 
ended  15 th  May  1908. 

Copy  of  Second  Report  (on Afforestation)  of  Coast  Erosion 

the  Commissioners  appointed  to  inquire  into  and  ^ 
report  on  certain  questions  afiecting  Coast  commission.) 
Erosion  and  the  Reclamation  of Tidal  Lands  and 
Atforestation  in  the  United  Kingdom.  Volume 
II.  Part  I.,  Report.  Part  II.,  Minutes  of 
Evidence  and  Appendices. 

Copy  of  Report  to  the  Secretary  of  State  Factory  and 
for  the  Home  Department, by James Swinburne,  Workshop  . 
M.INST.C.E.,  F.R.S.,  on  the  D r a ft   Regulations  f or   use, &c. of  ' 
the  Generation,  Transformation,  Distribution,  Electrical 
and  Use  of  Electrical  Fmergy  in  premises  under  Bner6?>) 
the  Factory  and  Workshop  A c t,   1901. 

Copy  of  Report  of  Departmental  Committee  Humidity  and 

on  Humidity  and. Ventilation  in Cotton-weaving  Ventilation 
Sheds. 
Appendices. 

Report,  Minutes  of  Evidence,  and  committee.)* 

Copy  of  Third  Interim  Report  of  the  Com-  Tuberculosis 
missioners  appointed  to  inquire  into  the relations ( H u. m a°  a nd 
of  .Human  and  Animal  Tuberculosis.  Report  (Eoyai 
and  Appendix. 

Commission.) 

Copy 

of  Report 

of 

the  Commissioners  Poor Laws  and 

appointed  to  inquire  into  the  Poor  Laws  and 
Relief  of  Distress. 

(Royal 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the  Commission.) 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His  Army. 

Majesty's  "Command,—Copy  of  Draft  Order  in 
Council  defining  the  Duties  of  the  Assistant 
Financial  Secretary  of  the  War  Officei 

Copy  of  General  Annual  Report  on  the  Army. 

British  Army 
September  1908. 

for 

the  year  ending.  30th 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  also  presented,  pur-  Army, 

suant  to  the  directions  of  several  Acts  of 
Parliament,—Copy  of  Draft  Order  in  Council 
authorising  the  execution of  Military  Manoeuvres 
B 3 

Fishery  Board 
(Scotland.) 

Copy  of  Twenty-sixth  Annual  Report  of  the 
Fishery  Board  for  Scotland,  being  for  the  year 
1907.  Part  I I I .,   Scientific  Investigations. 

V O L.   164. 

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within the limits specified in the  Schedule to the 
Draft  Order. 

16^ 

Army 
(Military 
Savings 
Banks.) 

No. 1. 

Copy  of  Statement  of the amount due by the 
public  to  Depositors  in  Military  Savings Banks 
on  31st  March  1907,  and  of  the  Receipts, 
Interest,  and  Disbursements  during  the  year 
ended 3lst  March  1908, &c. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Greenwich 
Hospital  and 
Travers' 
Foundation. 
No. 2. 

Table;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  Army 
(Military  Savings  Banks) be printed. 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,— 
Accounts  of  the  Receipt  and  Expenditure  of 
the  Capital  and of  the  Income  derived  from the 
Lands  and other property held for the benefit of 
Greenwich  Hospital,  and  the  Foundation  of 
Samuel  Travers,  Esquire, for the year ended on 
31st  March  1908,  together  with  the  Report  of 
the Comptroller  and Auditor  General  thereon. 

Ordered,  That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Machinery and  Mr.  Burns  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Deparfr-
mental  Committee  appointed  by  the  President 
Poor  Law 
Institutions 
of  the  Local  Government  Board  to inquire  into 
(Departmental Machinery  and  Engineering  Staffs at Poor  Law 
Committee.)  

j n s t i t u t i o n Sj   wj th  Minutes of  Evidence,  Appen­
dices, and Index. 

Ordered,  That  the  said Paper do lie upon the 

Table. 

Destructive 
Insects  and 

Sir  Edward  Strachey presented,  pursuant  to 
the  directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,— 
m^andflW. Copy  of  Order,  dated  the  13th  January  1909, 
under  the  Destructive  Insects  and  Pests  Acts, 
1877  and  1907,  entitled  the  American  Goose­
berry  Mildew  (Norwich)  Order,  1909. 

Diseases of 
Copy  of  Order,  No.  7603,  dated  the  20th 
Animals Acts,  November  1908, under  the Diseases of  Animals 
to  1903,  entitled  the  Foreign 
1894  to 1903.  A c t g  )  1894 

Trade 
Reports. 

Animals  (Amendment)  Order of  1908  (No.  2). 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Index  to  Reports  of  His 
Majesty's  Diplomatic  and Consular  Representa­
tives  Abroad  on  Trade  and  Subjects  of  general 
interest (with  Appendix),  1907. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Intermediate 
Education 
(Ireland.) 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  pursuant  to  the direc­
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Time  Table  of  Intermediate  Examinations  in 
Ireland for the year  1909. 

Local 
Taxation 
(Ireland) 
Account. 

No. 3. 

Board of 
Education. 

Board of 
Education. 

Copy  of  Account  of  Receipts  and  Payments 
of  Local  Taxation  in  Ireland  for  the financial 
year from 1st April  1907  to 31st March  1908. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table ;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  Local 
Taxation  (Ireland)  Account  be printed. 

Mr.  Runciman presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Board  of 
Education  in  the  matter  of  the  Charity  known 
as Cheshunt  College. 

Copy  of  Statistics  of  Public  Education  in 
II., 

England  and  Wales,  1906-7-8.  Part 
Financial  Statistics. 

February. 

1909. 

[No.  1. 

Copy  of  Report  of  the  Delegates  of  His  Tuberculosis 

Majesty's  Government  to  the  International 
Congress  on  Tuberculosis,  held  at  Washington  190®)°^° 
from  the  21st  September  to  the  3rd  October 
1908. 

Mr.  Runciman  also presented, pursuant to the  Merchant 
directions of several Acts  of Parliament,— Copies  Shipping  Act, 
of  four  Orders  in  Council  under the  Merchant1894" 
Shipping  Act,  1894,  dated  21st  December 
1 9 0 8­

(1)  Confirming	  a  Byelaw  made  by  the  Cor­

poration  of  the  Trinity  House,  fixing  new  

Pilotage  Rates for  the London  and English  

Channel  Districts ; 


(2)  Confirming  certain  Byelaws	  made by  the  

Humber  Conservancy  Board  with  respect  

to Pilotage  between Hull  and  Goole;  


(3)  Fixing  the Dues  to be levied  in respect ol 


the Looe  Pier  Head  Light;  


(4)  Directing  that  anything  to	  be  done  by,  

to,  or  before  a Consular  Officer  under  the  

above-named  Act  shall  be  done  by  the 
Officers  acting  for  the time  being  as Port 

Officers  at  the Gilbert  and  Ellice  Islands  

and the  Solomon  Islands,  respectively.  


Copy  of  Order  in  Council,  dated  21st  De-India  Office 
cember  1908,  approving  Statement  of  new  Establishment, 
and  revised  Appointments  and  alterations  of 
salaries  in  the  Establishment  of  the  Secretary 
of  State for  India  in  Council. 

Copy  of  Order  in  Council  under  the Foreign Foreign 
Jurisdiction  Act,  1890,  dated  21st  December Jurisdiction 
1908,  entitled  the Swaziland  Crown  Lands  and 
Minerals  Order  in  Council,  1908. 

Act, 1890. 

Copies of  three  Orders in  Council  under  the 
Naval and  Marine  Pay  and Pensions Act,  1865, 
dated 21st December  1908, approving memorials 
of  the  Lords  Commissioners  of  the  Admiralty 
praying sanction  to (1) the  payment  of  command 
money  to  the  Captain  in  Charge  and  King's 
Harbour  Master  at  Portland  at  the rate of  12s. 
a  day, and  of  an allowance  to  his  clerk;  (2)  a 
revision of  the system  of awarding  money prizes 
for good rifle shooting ; (3)  a scale of allowances 
to  Royal  Marine  Physical  Training  Instructors. 
Copy of Order in Council under the  Merchant 
Shipping  (Mercantile  Marine  Fund)  Act,  1898, 
and  Merchant  Shipping  Act,  1894,  dated  21st 
December  1908,  altering  the  scale  of  Light 
Dues  leviable  under  the  Merchant  Shipping 
(Mercantile  Marine  Fund)  Act,  1898. 

Naval and 
Ma fine Pay 
and  Pensions 
Act,  1865. 

Merchant 
Shipping 
(Mercantile 
Marine  Fund) 
Act,  1898, and 
Merchant 
Shipping  Act, 
1894. 

Copy  of  Order  in  Council  under  the  Copy­
right  Acts,  1844 to  1886, dated  21st  December 
1908,  for  giving  effect  in  this  country  to  the 
Accession  of  the  Republic  of  Liberia  to  the 
International Copyright Convention  of  1886 and 
the additional  Act of Paris of  1896. 

Copyright 
Acts,  1844 to 
1886. 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His  Land  Transfer 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  First  Report of 
the Commissioners appointed  to inquire  into the  ommisslon--> 
Land Transfer  Acts, with Minutes of  Evidence 
(October,  November, and  December  1908)  and 
Appendices. 

Copy  of  Sixth  Report  of  the  Commissioners  Sewage 
appointed  to inquire  and report what methods of ?lsPos.al 
treating  and  disposing  of  Sewage may  properly  commission.) 
be  adopted.  Report  on  disposal  of  Liquid 
Refuse from Distilleries. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented, pur- Shop  Hours 

suant  to  the  directions  of  several  Acts

  of Act>1904­

MidwivesAct,  Copy  of  Report  under  the  Midwives  Act,  Parliament,—Copies  of  Orders  under  the  Shop 
1902. 
1902,  on  the  work  of  the  Central  Midwives  Hours  Act,  1904, made  by the.  Councils  of  the 
Board from its formation to  31st March  1908.  Boroughs  of  Blackburn,  Coventry,  Devonport, 



No. 1.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

16th  February. 

Penal 
Servitude  Acta 
(Conditional 
Licence.) 

Penal 
Servitude  Acts 
(Conditional 
Licence.) 

Parks 
Regulation 
Act,  1872. 

Motor  Car 
Acts, 

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904. 

University  of 
Glasgow. 

No. 4. 

University  of 
Edinburgh. 
No. 5. 

University  of 
Edinburgh. 
No. 6. 

University  of 
Aberdeen. 
No. 7. 

University  of 
Aberdeen. 
No. 8. 

University  of 
Saint 
Andrews. 
No. 9. 
Sheriff  Courts 
(Scotland) 
Act,  1907. 

Plymouth,  Saint Helens, and  Southampton, and 
the  Urban  District  of  Wolstanton  United, and 
confirmed  by  the  Secretary  of  State  for  the 
Home  Department,  fixing  the  hours  of  closing 
for certain  classes of  Shops. 

Copy  of  Licence  granted  under  the  Penal 
Servitude  Acts to Phoebe Rose  Turner, a convict 
under detention in Aylesbury Prison, permitting 
her  to  be  at  large  on condition  that  she  enter 
Saint Mary's  Home, Stone, Dartford. 

Copy of  Licence  to  be at large granted  under 
the Penal  Servitude Acts to  Charles Thompson, 
to which are annexed conditions other than those 
contained  in  Schedule A  of  the  Penal  Servitude 
Act,  1864. 

Ordered,T^t  the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Harcourt  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— Copy  of 
Rules for  the  Tower  Gardens under  the  Parks 
Regulation  Act,  1872,  dated  18th  January 
1909. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Solicitor  General for  Scotland  presented, 
pursuant  to  the  directions  of  several  Acts  of 
Parliament,—Copy  of  the  Motor  Cars  (Use 
and Construction)  (Scotland)  Order, 1909. 

Copies  of  Orders  made  by  the  Secretary for 
Scotland  under  the  Shop  Hours  Act,  1904, 
providing for  the  early  closing  of  Shops  in  the 
Burghs  of Fraserburgh and Perth. 

Copy  of  Annual  Statistical  Report  by  the 
University  Court  of  the  University  of  Glasgow 
to the  Secretary for  Scotland  under  Section  30 
of  the  Universities  (Scotland)  Act,  1899,  for 
1907-8. 

Copy  of  Report  on  the state of  the  Finances 
of  the  University  of  Edinburgh,  made  by  the 
University  Court  to  the  Secretary  for  Scotland 
under  Section  30 of  the  Universities  (Scotland) 
Act,  1899, for the year  1907-8. 

Copy  of  Annual  Statistical  Report  by  the 

University  Court  of  the  University  of  Edin­
burgh  to  the  Secretary  for  Scotland  under 
Section  30 of  the  Universities  (Scotland)  Act, 
1899, for the year  1907-8. 

Copy  of Abstract  of  Accounts  of  the  Univer­
sity  of  Aberdeen  for  the  year  ending  30th 
September  1908. 

Copy  of  Annual  Statistical  Report  by  the 
University  Court  of  the University of  Aberdeen 
to  the Secretary  for  Scotland  under  Section  30 
of  the  Universities  (Scotland)  Act,  1899,  for 
1907-8. 

Copy  of  Abstract  of  Accounts  of  the  Uni­
versity  of  Saint  Andrews for the year  1907-S. 

Copy  of  Act of  Sederunt  anent Appeals  from 
the  Sheriff  Court  and  the  Procedure  for  the 
remission  of  Causes  to  the  Court  of  Session, 
under  Sections 5  and 30  of  the  Sheriff  Courts 
(Scotland)  Act,  1907. 

Ordered,  That the Said Papers do lie upon the 
Table;  and  that  the  Papers  relative  to  the 
University  of  Glasgow,  the  University  of 
Edinburgh,  the  University  of  Aberdeen,  and 
the University  of  Saint Andrews be printed. 

Royal  Irish 
Constabulary 
(Pensions.) 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of Return showing  the names 
of  all  Constabulary  Officers  now  in  receipt  of 
Pensions, of  all  Head Constables, Sergeants, and 
Constables, and of  all  Widows  and  Children, to 

YOL.  164. 

whom  Pensions  have  been  granted  since  the 
Constabulary Estimate  for  1908-9 was prepared, 
with  the  amount  and  date  of  Pension  in  each 
case. 

Mr. Hobhouse  also  presented,—Return  to  an  Government 

Order,  dated  the  19th day of  November  in  the 
last  Session  of  Parliament, for  a  Return  of  all 
Contracts  made  in  the  United  Kingdom  for 
manufactured articles by the several Government 
Departments  in  the  year  ending  the  31st  day 
of  March  1908, either  with  contractors  outside 
the  United  Kingdom  or  with  contractors  or 
agents who obtain the articles from abroad. 

jq' 

Mr. Hobhouse also presented, pursuant  to  the  imperial 
directions  of  several Acts of Parliament,— Copy Ottoman 
of Account of  the Imperial Ottoman Guaranteed LoanTf 1855. 
Loan  of  1855 for the year  1908. 

Account  showing  all  the  sums  which  have  Treasury 

been  received  into  the  Treasury  Chest,  and Ohest. 
which have been paid  out of  the  same, between  No. 11. 
the  1st  April  1907  and  the  31st  March  1908, 
and of the liabilities and assets  of  the  Treasury 
Chest  on  the latter day,  with the Report of the 
Comptroller  and  Auditor  General  thereon. 

Copy of  Treasury Minute, dated  2nd January  Public  Works 

1909, sanctioning  the  lease  of  a  small  plot  of (Ireland-) 
Land  adjoining the  Railway  Station  at  Kings­
town  to  the  Dublin  and  Kingstown  Railway 
Company. 

Account  of  the  Receipts  and  Disbursements  Duchy  of 
of  the Duchy  of  Lancaster  in  the  year  ended La"<;as''er­
on  the  21st  December  1908;  also  a  separate 
Account  of  the  Capital  of  the  said Duchy  to 
the same date. 

Appropriation  Accounts  of  the sums granted  Civil  Services 

by  Parliament  for  Civil  Services, Classes I.  to 
VII.,  and the  Revenue  Departments (including (Appropria-S 
the Post  Office Packet and Telegraph  Services), tion Accounts.) 
for  the  year  ended 31st March  1908,  together  No. 13. 
with the Reports of the  Comptroller and Auditor 
General  thereon, and certain Reports upon Store 
Accounts. 

Appropriation  Account  of  the  sums  granted Navy 

(Appropria­
by Parliament  for  Navy  Services  for  the  year 
tion  Account.) 
1907-8, together with the  Report  of  the  Comp- No. 14. 
troller  and  Auditor  General  thereon,  and  the 
Report, of  the  Comptroller  and Auditor  General 
upon the  Store Accounts  of  the  Navy. 

Appropriation  Account for Army  Services for  Army 
1'907<-8, with the  Report of the  Comptroller and (Appropria­
Auditor  General  thereon,  and upon  the  Store 
Accounts of  the  Army. 

tion  Account.) 
No. 15. 

Copies of  Treasury  Minutes under the  Super-Superannua­
annuation Act, 1887, dated  1st and 27th January tion  Act,  1887. 
1909, granting  retired  allowances  to  Mr.  Alger 
G.  Tomlinson, Telegraphist,  Central  Telegraph 
Office, Post  Office,  and  to  Mr. Peter  Buglass, 
Second  Class Officer, Darlington  Station, Inland 
Revenue, respectively. 

Copy  of  Treasury  Minute  under  the  Super- Superannua­

annuation  Act,  1859,  dated 25th January  1909, tions. 
declaring  that for the due and efficient discharge 
of  the  duties  of  the  Offices  of  Inspector  and 
Assistant  Inspector  of  Foods, when not held  by 
medical  men,  professional  or  other  peculiar 
qualifications not ordinarily  to be acquired  in the 
Public  Service  are required. 

Annual Accounts  of  the  Ordnance Factories Army 
for  the  year  1907-8,  with  the  Report  of  the (Ordnance 
factories.) 
Comptroller and Auditor  General thereon. 

No. 16. 

Copy  of  Appropriation  Account  of  the  sums 

Army 
(Ordnance 
granted  by  Parliament  for  the  expense  of  the Factories) 
Ordnance  Factories,  the cost of  the  productions (Appropria­
of which  have been charged to the Army, Navy, tion  Account.) 
and Indian and Colonial  Governments, &c., and  No. 17. 
the  Statement  of  the  Surpluses  and  Deficits 

B  4 

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11th—18th 

February. 

1909. 

[No. at 

Peers, when  His Majesty  was  pleased  to  make Majesty's 
a most Gracious Speech  from the Throne  to both  Speech. 
Houses  of  Parliament;  of  which  Mr.  Speaker 
said  he  had,  for  greater  accuracy,  obtained  a 
Copy;  which he read to the House, as followeth : 

Army 
(Clothing 
Factory.) 

No. 18.: 

Military 
Works Acts, 
1897, 1899, 
1901, and 
1903. 

No. 19.  	

upon  the Grants for the  year ended 31st  March 
1908,  together  with  the  Report  of  the  Comp­
troller and Auditor  General  thereon. 

Annual Accounts of the Royal Army  Clothing 
Factory  for the year  J 907-8, with the Report  of 
the  Comptroller  and Auditor  General  thereon. 

Account  prepared  by  the  War  Office  under 
the  provisions  of  the  Military  Works  Acts, 
1897, 1899,  1901, and 1903, showing the amount 
expended  and  borrowed  and  the  securities 
created  under  the  Acts,  for  the  year  ended 
31st March  1908,  together  with  the  Report  of 
the  Comptroller and Auditor  General  thereon. 

Chelsea 
Hospital 
(Army  Prize  

Money and 
Legacy 
Funds.) 

No. 20. 

Account  of the  Receipts  and  Expenditure  of 
the  Commissioners  of  Chelsea  Hospital  (for 
Services other  than  those  voted by  Parliament)  

in  the  year  ended  31st  March  1908, with  the 
Report of  the Comptroller  and Auditor  General 
thereon. 

Trustee 
Copy  of  Seventeenth  Annual  Report  of  the 
Savmgs Banks.  p r o c e e d i n g  s   o f  the  Inspection  Committee  of 
No. 21. 	 Trustee  Savings Banks, for the year  ended 20th 

November  1908, with  Appendices. 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table;  and that the Papers relative to  Govern­
ment  Departments 
(Contracts);  Treasury 
Chest;  Duchy  of  Lancaster;  Civil  Services 
(Appropriation 
and  Revenue  Departments 
Accounts) ;  Navy 
(Appropriation  Account); 
Army  (Appropriation  Account);  Army  (Ord­
nance  Factories);  Army  (Ordnance  Factories) 
(Appropriation  Account)  ;  Army 
(Clothing 
Factory);  Military  Works  Acts,  1897,  1899, 
1901, and 1903;  Chelsea  Hospital  (Army  Prize 
Money  and  Legacy  Funds),  and  Trustee 
Savings Banks be  printed. 

The following Papers, pursuant  to  the direc­
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament, were laid 
upon the  Table by  the Clerk of  the  House : — 

Copy of  Return  to  the  Lord  Chancellor  of 
the  number of  visits  made  and  the  number  of 
Patients  seen  by  the  several  Commissioners  in 
Lunacy  during  the  six  months  ending  on  the 
31st December  1908. 

Copy  of Return  of  all  sums  received  by the 
Visitors  of  Lunatics for travelling  expenses, or 
upon  any  other  account,  from  1st  January  to 
31st December  1908. 

Copy  of the County  Court Rules (December), 

1908. 

Lunacy. 

Lunacy. 

County  Court 
(Rules.) 

Copy  of  Schedule  containing  a  list,  and 
Public 
Records 
particulars  of  classes  of Documents which have 
(Colonial 
Office) (New  been removed from the Office  of  His  Majesty's 
Principal  Secretary  of State having  the Depart-
Zealand 
Company.)  ment  of  the  Colonies,  and  deposited 
in  the 
Public  Record  Office, but  are  not  considered of 
sufficient public value to justify their preservation 
therein. 

Public Records  Copy of  Second  Schedule containing a list and 
(Colonial 
particulars of  classes of  Documents which  have 
Office.) 
been removed  from the Office  of  His  Majesty's 
Principal  Secretary of  State having the Depart­
ment  of  the  Colonies,  and  deposited  in  the 
Public  Record  Office, but are not  considered  of 
sufficient public value to justify their preservation 
therein. 

Public Records  Copy  of  Schedule  containing  a  list  and 
(Clerk  of  the  particulars of classes  of  Documents  existing  or 
Peace of  the 
accruing in the Offices of the  Clerk of the  Peace 
County 
of the  County  Palatine  of  Lancaster which  are 
Palatine of 
Lancaster.) 
not  considered  of  sufficient  public  value  to 
justify their preservation  in  the  Public  Record 
Office. 

My  Lords, and  Gentlemen, 

I  was  much  impressed  and  gratified  by  the  

warmth  of  the  public  reception  given  to  the  

Queen  and  myself  during  our  recent  visit  to  

the  German  Emperor  and  Empress  at  Berlin  

by  all  classes  of  the  community. 
It  afforded  

us  great  pleasure  to  meet  their  Majesties  

again,  and I  feel  confident  that  the  expression  

of  cordial  welcome which  there  greeted  us will 

tend  to strengthen  those  amicable  feelings  be­
tween the two countries  which  are  essential  to  

their mutual welfare  and  to the maintenance  Of  

peace. 


My  relations with foreign Powers continue  to 

be friendly. 

Satisfactory  progress  has  been  made  in  the 
negotiation  of  outstanding  questions  with  the 
United  States  of  America.  A  Treaty  to  regu­
late  the  use of  the waterways  adjacent  to  the 
international boundary  between  Canada and the 
United States has been arranged.  The question 
being  one  of  special  Canadian  interest,  the 
advice of the Dominion  Government  Was sought 
and followed throughout. 

My  Ambassador  at  Washington  has  also 

negotiated,  with  the  co-operation  of  the  Cana­
dian and Newfoundland  Ministers of  Justice, an 
Agreement  for  the  reference  to  arbitration  of 
the  North  American  Fisheries  question. 
I 
trust  that  the  Agreement  will  be  the  means 
of  effecting  a  final  and  friendly  settlement  of 
matters which have been  long  under  discussion 
between this country  and the  United  States. 

Arbitration  Agreements  concluded  by  my 
Government  with  those  of  France,  Italy,  and 
Spain, which were  on the point of expiring, have 
been  renewed  for  a  further term  of  five  years, 
and it is proposed to treat similar instruments in 
the same manner. 

The  situation  in  Persia  continues  to  cause 
anxiety.  My  Government  have  no  desire  to 
depart  from  the  principle  of  non-intervention 
in the internal  affairs of  that  country.  A t  the 
same  time, they  are  of  opinion  that  the  state 
of  affairs  in  Persia  imperatively  demands  the 
introduction  of  representative  institutions  in  a 
practical form, in order to  assure the  realisation 
of indispensable economic, financial, and  admin­
istrative  reforms,  and  to  pacify  the  country. 
As  the  present  troubles  endanger  numerous 
commercial and economic  interests which  Great 
Britain  and  Russia  have  in  Persia,  the  two 
Governments  are  exchanging  views  on  the 
subject. 

I  am  happy  to  think  that  there  is  now  an 
improved prospect of  a solution of the difficulties 
which  have  arisen  in  the  Balkans.  It  is  my 
earnest hope  that  a  settlement  may be  arrived 
at  which will  be  satisfactory  to  all  the  States 
whose interests are  concerned. 

The  news of  the disastrous  earthquake which 
occurred  recently  in  Sicily  and Calabria  called 
forth the deepest feelings of  compassion  for the 
afflicted  population.  Assistance  was  rendered 
by  the  officers  and  men  of  my Fleet,  and the 
naval and  military stores  in  the  Mediterranean 
were  utilised for  the  relief  of  the sufferers.  I 
am  glad  that  my  people  have  shown  their 
sympathy  with  the  friendly nation  of  Italy  in 
this terrible  calamity. 

Mr.'Speaker 
reports His 

Mr.  Speaker  reported, That  the House  had, 
this day, attended  His Majesty  in  the  House of 

An  International  Conference,  which  is  now 
sitting  in  London,  will, I  trust,  soon  reach  an 

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9  EDW.  YII. 
agreement on certain  questions of maritime Law. 
The conclusions  arrived  at  will  be  laid  before 
you,  that  there  may  be  due  opportunity  of 
considering  them when  your  assent  is asked to 
such legislation  p.s  may be  necessary  to  enable 
my  Government  to  ratify  the  International 
Prize  Court  Convention. 

The  reception  of  the  measures  designed  by 

my  Government  for  improving  Indian adminis­
tration has given  me  deep  satisfaction.  A  Bill 
will  at  once  be  laid  before  you, dealing  with 
matters in which  your  sanction  is required  •, and 
it  is  my strong desire that  the steps to be taken 
for giving  effect to  the  policy  announced  in my 
Message of  last  November  to the Princes  and 
People  of  India  may  impartially  protect  the 
interests  and  advance  the  welfare  of  all  races, 
classes, and communities in ray Indian dominions. 
The  work  accomplished  by  the  Convention 
for  closer  union, which  concluded its sittings at 
Cape Town  in the present month, in framing the 
plan  of  a South  African  Constitution  for  sub­
mission  to  the  constituent  Colonies  marks  the 
achievement of  the first stage in the consolidation 
of  that important part of  my  Empire. 

Gentlemen of the  House of Commons, 

Estimates for the expenditure of  the year  will 

in due course  be laid  before you. 

Owing  to  various  causes,  including  the  new 
provision  which was made last  year for  old  age, 
and  an  increase  which  has  become  necessary 
in the cost  of  my  Navy, the expenditure  of  the 
year will  be  considerably  in  excess  of  that  of 
the  past  twelve  months. 
stances, the provision  necessary for the  Services 
of  the  State  in  the  ensuing  year  will  require 
very  serious consideration, and, in  consequence, 
less  time  than  usual will,  I  fear,  be  available 
for 
legislative 
measures. 

the  consideration  of  other 

In  these  circum­

My  Lords, and  Gentlemen, 

The  Bills  dealing  with  Irish  Land  and 
Housing  and Town  Planning,  to  the  discussion 
of  which time and labour were given  in your last 
Session, will be  re-introduced. 

A  Bill will  be  laid  before  you  for  the Dis­
establishment and Disendowment  of  the  Church 
in  Wales. 

I  have now received  the Report of  the  Com­
mission,  which  I  appointed  more  than  three 
years  ago,  to  inquire  into  the  working  of  the 
Poor  Law,  and  into  the  provision  for  meeting 
distress arising from want of employment.  The 
recommendations  of  the  Commission  are  en­
gaging  the careful  attention of  my Government. 

A  measure ^ will  be  proposed  for  the  better 
organisation  of  the  labour  market  through  a 
system  of  co-ordinated  labour  Exchanges, with 
which other schemes for dealing with unemploy­
ment may subsequently  be  associated. 

A-Bill  will  be introduced  for the  constitution 
of Trade  Boards  in certain  branches of industry 
in which the evils known  as "  sweating "  prevail. 
A  measure  will  be  laid  before  you  to  alter 
the Law  affecting  Parliamentary  Elections  and 
Registration  in  London. 

In  connection with the financial arrangements 
of the year, proposals  will  be  brought  forward 
for  amending  the  Old  Age  Pensions  Act  in 
certain particulars where, in practice, inequalities 
of treatment have been  found to arise. 

A  Bill prohibiting  the  landing  and selling in 

the  United  Kingdom  of  Fish  caught  in  pro­
hibited areas of  the  sea adjoining Scotland will 
also be introduced. 

VOL.  164. 

Bills  will  be  presented  to amend the  Law  in 
regard  to Inebriates,  to the supply  of  Milk, and 
to  the hours of work in  Shops. 

Your  labours upon these and all other  matters 
I  humbly  commend  to  the  blessing  of  Almighty 
God. 

A  Motion  was  made, and  the  Question  being  King's  Speech 
proposed,  That  an humble Address  be presented  (Motion for an 
to  His  Majesty,  as followeth : 

AddieS8,) 

Most  Gracious  Sovereign, 

We,  Your  Majesty's  most  dutiful  and  loyal 
subjects, the  Commons of  the  United  Kingdom 
of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  in  Parliament 
assembled,  beg leave  to  offer our humble  thanks 
to  Your  Majesty  for  the  Gracious Speech  which 
Your  Majesty  has  addressed  to  both  Houses of 
Parliament—(Mr.  Rogers) ; 

And  a Debate  arising, thereupon ; 
And  a Motion  being made, and  the  Question 
being  put, That the  Debate be now adjourned— 
(Mr. Barnes)  :—It  was resolved  in the Affirma­
tive. 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being  Adjournment, 

put,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn—(Mr. 
Montagu)  :—It  was resolved in the Affirmative. 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  six  minutes  after  Ten  

of  the clock, adjourned till  to-morrow.  


[No.  2.]  , 

Wednesday, 17th February 1909. 
The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three  of  the clock. 


P R A T E R S. 

THE  Chairman of  Ways  and  Means reported,  Private  Bills. 

That, in accordance with Standing Order 79, 

he had conferred  with  the  Chairman  of  Com­
mittees of  the House of  Lords,  for  the purpose 
of  determining  in  which  House  of  Parliament 
the  respective  Private  Bills  should  be  first 
considered,  and  they  had  determined  that  the 
following  list  should 
Bills  contained  in  the 
originate  in  the  House of  Lords,  viz.:— 

Alexandra 

(Newport  and  South  Wales) 

Docks  and Railway. 

Alliance  and Dublin  Consumers  Gas. 
Anglo-Argentine  Tramways  Company. 
Barry  Railway. 
Bath (City)  Electric  Supply. 
Brighton  Casino and Marine  Palace. 
Bristol  University. 
Broadstairs and  Saint Peter's  Urban  District 

Council. 

" 

Bungay  Water. 
Clevedon  Water. 
Donington  Water. 
Dudley  Corporation. 
Durham  (County)  Electric  Power  Supply. 
East  Sussex  County  Council. 
Fermoy  Urban  District  Gas. 
Frimley  and Farnborough  District  Water. 
Gateshead  and District  Tramways. 
Grantham  Water. 
Great Western  Railway  (Steam  Vessels). 
Great Yarmouth  Corporation. 

10 

11th—18th 

February. 

1909. 

[No.  at 

Heckmondwike and  Liversedge  Gas. 
Lancashire and Yorkshire  and North  Eastern 

Railways. 
Lisburn  Gas. 
Lisburn  Urban District  Council. 
Liskeard  and Looe  and Liskeard and  Caradon 

Railways  (Testing,  &c.). 

Liverpool  Corporation. 
London  and  South  Western  Railway. 
London,  Chatham, and  Dover  Railway. 
London  United  Tramways. 
Malvern  Hills. 
Manchester  Corporation. 
Methwold  and Feltwell  Drainage. 
Midland  Railway. 
North  Eastern  Railway. 
Pekin  Syndicate. 
Plymouth  Pier  and Winter  Gardens. 
Pontypool  Gas and  Water. 
Ravenglass  and Eskdale  Railway. 
Rawmarsh  Rectory. 
Rio  Tinto  Company. 
Risca  Urban  District  Council. 
Salford  Corporation. 
Shrewsbury  Corporation. 
Somerset and District  Electric  Power. 
South  Eastern  and  London,  Chatham,  and 

Dover  Railways. 

Southend-on-Sea  Corporation. 
South  Lincolnshire  Water. 
Southport  and  Lytham  Tramroad  (Abandon­

ment). 

0 

South  Staffordshire  Water. 
South  Western  and  Isle  of  Wight  Junction 

Railway. 

Stock  Conversion  and  Investment  Trust 

(North  Eastern  Railway  Consols). 
Stourbridge  and District Water  Board. 
TaffVale Railway  (Cardiff Railway,  Vesting, 

&c.). 

Taff  Vale  Railway 

(Rhymney  Railway, 

Vesting, &c.). 

Torquay  and Paignton  Tramways. 
Trent  Railway  and  Bridge. 
United  Kingdom  Temperance  and  General 

I 

Provident  Institution. 
Wakefield  Corporation. 
Wells  Gas. 
Wembury  (Plymouth)  Commercial  Dock  and 

Railway. 

West  Kent Electric  Power. 
Westminster  City  Council  (Superannuation, 

&c.). 

Wirral  Railway  (Extension  of  Time). 
Worksop  Water. 

principal Industrial  Towns  of  France j  with  an 
Introductory  Memorandum  and  a  Comparison 
of  Conditions  in  France  and  the  United  King­
dom. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Irish  Land 
Command, — Copy  of  Return  of  Proceedings  Commission 
under  the  Land  Law  Acts,  the  Labourers  (Proceedings-) 
(Ireland)  Acts,  1883  to  1891,  and  the  Land 
Purchase  Acts,  of  the  Irish  Land  Commission 
during  the month of  November  1908. 

Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Local 

directions of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Order  under  the  Local  Registration  of Title  (Ireland)  Act, 
(Ireland)  Act,  1891, dated 28th  November 1908, 1891. 
fixing  the  Fee  payable  for  Certificate  as  to 
Boundaries  under  Rule  12 (a)  of  the  Estates 
Commissioners' Rules dated4th November  1907. 

Copy  of  Closing  Order  made  by  the  Urban  Shop  Hours 

District  Council of Bray  under  the  Shop Hours  Act>1904, 
Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by  the  Lord  Lieu­
tenant  of  Ireland, for closing  certain  classes  of 
Shops within the urban district. 

Ordered.,  That the  said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Runciman presented,  pursuant  to  the  Endowed 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Schools  Acts. 
Scheme  under  the  Endowed  Schools  Acts 
for  the  management  of  the  Foundation  called 
Walwyn's  Free  School, in the Parish of  Colwall, 
in the County  of  Hereford. 

22­

Ordered,  That the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Navy  (Battle 

Command,—Copy  of  Result  of  Battle  Practice  Practice.) 
in His Majesty's  Fleet,  1908. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant Factory  and 
to  the directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,  Workshop Acts 
— Copy  of  Regulations,  dated  18th  December ^dg8nh°eaith 
1908,  made  by  the  Secretary  of  State  for  the  industries.) 
Home  Department  in  pursuance  of  Section  79 
of  the  Factory  and  Workshop  Act,  1901,  for 
the use of  East  Indian  Wool. 

Copy  of  Regulations,  dated  30th  December  Factory  and 
1908,  made  by  the  Secretary  of  State  for  the Workshop Acts 
Home  Department  in  pursuance  of  Section  79  andtfahealthy 
of  the  Factory  and  Workshop  Act,  1901,  for  Industries.) 
the manufacture of  nitro- and  amido-derivatives 
of  Benzene, and the manufacture  of  Explosives 
with use of Dinitrobenzol  or  Dinitrotoluol. 

Copy  of  Regulations,  dated  23rd  December Factory  and 
1908,  made  by  the  Secretary  of  State  for  the Workshop Acts 
Home  Department  in  pursuance  of  Section  79 and Unhealthy 
of  the  Factory  and  Workshop  Act,  1901,  for Industries.) 
the  generation,  transmission,  distribution,  and 
use  of  Electrical  Energy  in premises under the 
Factory  and Workshop Acts,  1901 and  1907. 

(Dangerous 

Copy  of  Regulations,  dated  18th  December Factory  and 
1908,  made  by  the  Secretary  of  State for  the  Workshop Acts 
(Dangerous 
Home  Department  in  pursuance  of  Section  79 and  Unhealthy 
of  the  Factory  and  Workshop  Act,  1901,  for Industries.) 
the process of the Vitreous Enamelling of  Metal 
or Glass. 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the  shop  Hours 

Urban  District  of  Abertillery  under  the  Shop Acfc-1904. 
Hours Act,  1904, and confirmed by the Secretary 
of  State for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
hours  of  closing  for  certain  classes , of  Shops 
within the urban district. 

jfublic 
Petitions. 
Vide  First 
Report. 

Weekly 
Rest-day 
_
Legislation 
m! M909T'

Several  Public  Petitions were  presented, and 

read  ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Secretary Sir Edward Grey presented, by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Reports  from 
His  Majesty's  Representatives  Abroad  as  to 
 Legislation  in  Foreign  Countries  respecting  a 
Weekly  Rest-day. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Cost of  Living
{French
Towns.)

  Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copv  of  Report  of  an  Inquiry  by 
0 f  T^de  into  Working-Class  Rents, 
Housing,  and  Retail  Prices,  together  with 
Rates  of  Wages  in  certain  Occupations,  in  the 

t he  B o a rd

 
 
 
No,  a.]  y  E D W.   v i i. 

17^ 

February. 

Ordered,  That  the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Consolidated 
Fund. 

No. 23.

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Abstract 
  Account  showing  the  issues  made  from  the 
Consolidated  Fund  of  the  United  Kingdom 
in the financial year ended 31st  March  1908 for 
the  Interest  and  Management  of  the Debt, for 
the  Civil  List,  and  for  all  other  issues  in  the 
financial  year  for  Services  charged  directly  on 
the  said  Fund,  with  the  Report  of  the  Comp­
troller and Auditor  General  thereon. 

Ordered,  That the  said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Imperial 
Conference. 

Colonel  ISeely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 

Command,—Copy  of  Correspondence  relating 
to the proposed formation of  an Imperial General 
Staff. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Public 
Trustee. 

Mr.  Attorney  General  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,— Copy  of  First  General 
Annual  Report by  the  Public  Trustee. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Bank  of
Bngland.

No. 24.

Table. 

The  following  Paper, pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  was  laid  u p on 
t he  T a b le   b y  the  Clerk  of  the  House:—An 
Account  of  the  amount of  all  Exchequer  Bills 
and  other  Government  Securities  which  have 
been purchased  by  the  Governor and  Company 
of  the  Bank  of  England, or  on  which  any sum 
or  sums  have  been  lent  and  advanced  for  the 
Public  Service by the Governor and  Company of 
the said  Bank,  in the  year  ended 5th  January 
1909 :——And  an  Account  of  the  amount  of 
balances  of  sums  issued  for  the  payment  of 
dividends  due  and  not  demanded,  and  which 
remained  in  the  hands  of  the  Governor  and 
Company  of  the  Bank  of  England  on  certain 
days, being those  next  before the issue from the 
Exchequer  of  money  for  the  payment  of  divi­
dends on account of  the  National  Debt  for each 
of the four preceding  quarters  respectively. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  be printed. 

Parliamentary  Resolved, That  an  humble  Address  be  p r e  ­
CBler^ra6To  s e n t e  d  t 0  H i  s  Majesty, that He will  be graciously 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
(United  ' 
before this House a Return  showing, with regard 
Kingdom.) 
to  each  Parliamentary  Constituency 
in  the 
United  Kingdom,  the  total  number and, as far 
as possible, the number in each class of  Electors 
on  the  register  now in force ;  and also showing 
the  population  and  inhabited  houses  in  each 
Constituency  (in  continuation  of  Parliamentary 
Paper,  No.  44  of  Session  1908).—(Sir  Charles 
Dilke.) 

Housing, Town

Planning, &e.

Bill. 

Bill  1. 

  Mr.  Burns,  supported  by  Mr.  Attorney 
Q e n eral,  Mr.  Solicitor  General  for  Scotland, 
and Mr.  Masterman,  presented  a  Bill  to  amend 
the Law relating  to the  Housing  of  the Working 
Classes,  to  provide  for  the  making  of  Town 
Planning  schemes, and to make further provision 
with  respect  to  the  appointment  and  duties  of 
County  Medical  Officers  of  Health,  and  to 
provide  for  the establishment  of  Public  Health 
and  Housing  Committees  of  County  Councils: 
And  the same was ordered  to  be  read a  second 
time upon  Monday  next;  and to  be printed. 

Ballot for Bills
and Motions,

  A  Motion was  made, and  the  Question  being 
  proposed, That no Bills, other than  Government 

VOL.  164. 

11 
Bills,  be introduced in anticipation  of  the ballot, 
and  that  all  Members  who  desire  to  ballot, 
whether  for  Bills, or  for  Motions  for  Tuesday 
23rd  February  and  Tuesday  2nd  March,  and 
Wednesday  24th  February  and  Wednesday 
3rd  March, do hand  in  their names  at the  Table 
during  the  Sitting  of  the  House  on  Tuesday 
16th  February  or  Wednesday  17th  February, 
and  that a Copy of  such  Notices  be handed in, at 
the  latest, during  the  Sitting  of  the  House  on 
Thursday  18th  February  ;  that  the  ballot  for 
the precedence of  the said Bills  and  Motions be 
taken  on  Thursday  18th  February,  at  a  con­
venient  time  and  place,  to  be  appointed  by 
Mr.  Speaker, and  that  the presentation  of'  Bills 
on Friday  19th  February  be taken  as soon  after 
Twelve  of  the clock  as  Mr,  Speaker  may deem 
convenient—(Mr. Joseph Pease) ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made to 
the Question, in  1. 1, by leaving out  from the word 
"  That"  to  the end of  the Question, and  adding 
the words "  a list  be  prepared  of  the subjects of 
such  Private  Members'  Bills  and  Motions  as 
have  already  been  introduced  and  have  not 
received  Royal Assent  in  the  preceding  Session, 
introducing 
and  showing  the  names  of  the 
Members  of  such  Business;  that  Members 
desiring  to  do  so  vote  upon  such  list  by  the 
method of  the  single  transferable vote, marking 
numerically  up  to  the number  20, or  other  the 
number  of  days  available  for  such  Business, 
preference  for  such  subjects,  so  as  to  secure 
priority for them  in the order  of  the  number  of 
votes  given  for  the same;  and  that such list  be 
prepared  and  published  and  such  voting  be 
conducted, and  the result  thereof  be ascertained 
and declared  and  the priorities  for such  Private 
Members'  Bills and Motions  be stated, under the 
direction  of  Mr.  Speaker,  having  regard  in 
such  statement  to  the  support which each  such 
subject has received ;  and that each  introducing 
Member  on such  statement  shall  have  the right 
in  succession,  according  to  the  priorities  so 
stated,  of  bringing forward  his subject upon any 
day available  for  such  Business  which  he  may 
select  and  give  notice  of 
in  writing  to  the 
Principal  Clerk  of  the  House  within  a  time 
to  be  prescribed  by  Mr.  Speaker  upon  such 
statement:  Provided  that, (1)  where  the  votes 
for  any  two  or  more  subjects  are  equal,  the 
introducing  Members thereof  shall have priority 
amongst themselves in the  order  in  which  their 
Notices reach such Principal  Clerk, and (2) any 
introducing  Member  may,  by  Notice  to  the 
Principal  Clerk, withdraw, his subject  from such 
list  before  it  is  published"  —  (Mr.  Robert 
Pearce),—instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed  to  be left out  stand  part of the 
Question ::—The said proposed Amendment was, 
with leave  of  the  House,  withdrawn. 

And  the  Main  Question  being  put ; 
Ordered,  That  no  Bills,  other  than  Govern­
ment Bills,  be  introduced  in  anticipation  of  the 
ballot,  and  that  all  Members  who  desire  to 
ballot,  whether  for  Bills,  or  for  Motions  for 
Tuesday  23rd  February  and  Tuesday  2nd 
March,  and  Wednesday  24th  February  and 
Wednesday  3rd  March,  do hand  in  their names 
at the Table  during the  Sitting  of  the  House on 
Tuesday  16th  February  or  Wednesday  17th 
February,  and  that,  a Copy  of  such  Notices  be 
handed in, at the latest, during the Sitting of the 
House  on  Thursday  18th  February  ;  that  the 
ballot for  the  precedence  of  the  said  Bills  and 
Motions  be  taken  on  Thursday  18th  February, 
at a convenient  time and  place, to be  appointed 
by  Mr.  Speaker,  and  that  the  presentation  of 
Bill's on Friday  19th February  be taken  as soon 
C  2 

• 

 
 
 
12 

11th—18th February. 

1909.  [No.  at 

after  Twelve  of  the clock  as  Mr. Speaker may 
deem convenient. 

Business of
tb£ House

Speech,
Motion for  an
Address.)

Ordered, That the Proceedings on the Address, 
a n s w e  r  to  His  Majesty's  Speech, shall, until 
concluded, have precedence  of  all  other  Orders 
0f  the  day,  and  of  Notices  of  Motions,  at  all 
Sittings  for  which  they  are  set  down.—(The 
Prime  Minister.) 

King's Speech  The Order of the day being read, for resuming 
adjourned Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
Andres*)01 aU 
upon  the  16th  day  of  this  instant  February, 
That  an  humble Address  be  presented  to  His 
Majesty,  as followeth : 

Onemploy* 
ment. 

Most  Gracious  Sovereign, 

We,  Your  Majesty's  most  dutiful  and  loyal 
subjects, the  Commons  of  the United  Kingdom 
of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  in  Parliament 
assembled, beg  leave to  offer  our humble thanks 
to Your  Majesty for the  Gracious  Speech which 
Your  Majesty  has  addressed  to  both  Houses  of 
Parliament—(Mr.  Rogers) ; 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed :— 
The  House resumed the said adjourned  Debate. 
An  Amendment was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the Question, by  adding  at  the  end  thereof  the 
words " And further, we desire humbly to express 
our regret  that,  in  view  of  the  serious  distress 
arising from the lack of  work,  the  proposals  for 
legislation  which  Your  Majesty's  Advisers have 
thought fit to  recommend  are  altogether  inade­
quate for dealing  effectively either  with the root 
causes  or the evils arising out of unemployment." 
— (Mr.  jBarnes.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there  added ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the.Sight; 
The  Noes to  the Left. 
Tellers for theTMr.  George Roberts, 

Yeas, 

"l 
\ Mr.  Charles Duncan :  J 

Tellers for thej Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

t Master of Elibank: 

"J  „„ _
/ 

So it passed in the  Negative. 
And  the  Main  Question being again proposed : 

—And  a Debate  arising  thereupon; 

And  it  being after  Eleven  of  the  clock, the 

Debate stood  adjourned. 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

And  then  the  House, having  continued  to 
sit till  seven minutes after Eleven  of  the 
clock, adjourned till  to-morrow. 

Private  Bills 
{Lords.] 

[No.  3.] 

Thursday, 1 Sth February  1909. 
The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three of the clock. 

P R A TE  K S. 

MB,.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from the Examiners of Petitions for Private 
; Jills,  That  in respect  of  the  Bills  comprised  in 
the list reported  by the  Chairman  of  Ways and 
Means,  as intended to originate in the  House  of 
Lords,  they  have  certified  that  the  Standing 
Orders have been complied  with in the following 
cases, viz.  :— 

Alexandra 

(Newport  and  South  Wales) 

Docks  and Railway. 

Alliance  and Dublin  Consumers Gas. 
Anglo-Argentine  Tramways  Company. 
Barry  Railway. 
Bath  (City)  Electric  Supply. 
Brighton  Casino and Marine  Palace. 
Bristol  University. 
Broadstairs and  Saint  Peter's  Urban  District 

Council. 

Bungay  Water. 
Clevedon  Water. 
Donington  Water. 
Dudley  Corporation. 
Durham (County)  Electric  Power  Supply. 
East  Sussex  County  Council. 
Fermoy  Urban  District  Gas. 
Frimley  and Farnborough  District  Water. 
Gateshead  and District  Tramways. 
Grantham  Water. 
Great Western  Railway  (Steam  Vessels). 
Great  Yarmouth  Corporation. 
Heckmondwike  and Liversedge  Gas. 
Lancashire and Yorkshire  and North  Eastern 

Railways. 
Lisburn  Gas. 
Lisburn  Urban  District  Council. 
Liskeard  and Looe  and Liskeard  and Caradon 

Railways  (Vesting,  &c.). 

Liverpool  Corporation. 
London and  South  Western  Railway. 
London, Chatham, and Dover  Railway. 
Londbn  United  Tramways. 
Malvern  Hills. 
Manchester  Corporation. 
Methwold  and Feltwell  Drainage. 
Midland  Railway. 
North Eastern  Railway. 
Pekin  Syndicate. 
Plymouth Pier  and Winter  Gardens. 
Pontypool  Gas and  Water. 
Ravenglass and Eskdale  Railway. 
Rawmarsh  Rectory. 
Rio  Tinto  Company. 
Risca  Drban District  Council. 
Salford  Corporation. 
Shrewsbury  Corporation. 
South  Eastern  and  London,  Chatham,  and 

Dover  Railways. 

Southend-on-Sea  Corporation. 
South  Lincolnshire  Water. 
Southport  and  Lytham  Tramroad  (Abandon­

ment). 

South  Staffordshire  Water. 
South  Western  and  Isle  of  Wight  Junction 

Railway. 

Stock  Conversion  and  Investment  Trust 

(North  Eastern  Railway  Consols). 
Stourbridge and District Water  Board. 
Taff Vale Railway (Cardiff Railway,  Vesting, 

&c.). 

Taff  Vale  Railway 

(Rhymney  Railway, 

Vesting,  &c.). 

Trent Railway  and  Bridge. 
United  Kingdom  Temperance  and  General 

Provident  Institution. 
Wakefield  Corporation. 
Wells  Gas. 
Wembury  (Plymouth)  Commercial  Dock  and 

Railway. 

West  Kent  Electric  Power. 

 
 
 
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9   E D W.   V I I. 

1 Sth 

February. 

1 3 

Westminster  City  Council  (Superannuation, 

&c.). 

Wirral  Railway  (Extension  of  Time). 
Worksop  Water. 
And  they  have  certified  that  the  Standing 
Orders  have  not  been  complied  with  in  the 
following  case,  viz.:— 

Somerset and  District  Electric  Power. 

Private  Bill 
Petitions 
[Lords']
(Standing 
Orders not 
complied 
with.) 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the case of  the  Petition 
for  the  following  Bill,  originating  in the Lords, 
the  Standing  Orders  have  not  been  complied 
with, viz.  :— 

Somerset  and  District  Electric  Power 

\Lords~\. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  referred  to the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

Private  Bill 
Petitions 
{Standing 
Orders not 
complied 
vith.) 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills, That in the case  of  the  Petitions 
for the following  Bills the  Standing Orders have 
not  been complied  with,  viz.:— 

Midland Great Western Railway of Ireland. 
Kilkenny,  Castlecomer, arid Athy  Railway. 
Ordered,  That the Report  be  referred  to  the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

Ordered,  That  the  Select  Committee  on 

A  Bill  to  extend the time for  the purchase  of  Baker  street 

lands  and  construction  of  the  works authorised 
by  the  Baker  Street  and  Waterloo  Railway 
Act,  1906, and for other purposes, was presented,
and  read  the  first  time;  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of Petitions  for Private  Bills. 

a i w a  y  L • 
i 
' 

A  Bill for incorporating and conferring  powers  Blackwood 

on the Bkckwood  Gas  Company,  and for  other  Gas  Bill, 
purposes, was presented, and read  the first time; 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners  of  Petitions for 
Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  to consolidate with amendments certain  Bury 

of  the  local  Acts  in  force  within  the  County  Corporation 
Borough  of  Bury;  to  make  further  provision BlU" 
in  regard  to  the  various  undertakings  of  the 
Corporation ;  and  to  make  better  provision  for 
the health and local government of  the  borough, 
and for  other  purposes,  was  presented, and read 
the first time ;  and ordered  to  be read  a second 
time. 

A  Bill to empower the Lord Mayor, Aldermen,  Cardiff 
and  Citizens  of  the  City of  Cardiff to construct  Corporation 
and  maintain  additional  waterworks,  and  to  1  ' 
make  further  provision  for  the  improvement, 
health, and good government of  the city, and  for 
other  purposes,  was  presented,  and  read  the 
first  time;  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time. 

A  Bill to  empower  the Central London  Rail-  Central 

Standing 
Orders. 

Selection, 

/ 

way  Company  to construct  a  new  railway  and 
subways, and  tor  other purposes, was presented,   Kail way  Bill, 

. j  n 

Standing  Orders  do  consist  of  Thirteen  Mem­
bers :—Sir John  Brttnner, Sir Frederick  Cawley, and  read  the  first  time;  and  referred  to  the 
Mr.  Ellis,  Sir  Thomas  Esmonde, Sir Frederick  Examiners of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 
Dixon-Hart land, Mr.Jenkins,  Sir Joseph Leese,
A  Bill for the  better  regulation  of  the traffic city  of 
Colonel  Long,  Mr.  Mildmay,  Mr.  William 
Redmond, Mr. Stuart, Mr. David  Alfred  Thomas,in the streets  of  the  City  of  London  was  pre-  London 
and  Mr. Eugene  IVason  were accordingly  nomi­
nated  Members  of'  the  Select  Committee.— 
(Mr.  Ellis.) 

sented, and read the first time ;  and  ordered  to  traffic)  Bill 
be read a second time. 

, 1 

j

Mr. Abraham (North  East  Cork"),  Sir James 
Dalziel, Mr.  George Denison Faber, Mr. Fenwick, 
Sir  William Brampton  Gurdon,  Sir Joseph  Leese,
Colonel  Lockwood,  Mr.  Lonsdale,  Mr.  Pirie,
Mr.  George  Roberts, and  Sir  Herbert  Roberts 
were nominated  Members  of  the  Committee  of 
Selection.—(Sir  William Brampton  Gurdoit.) 

A  Bill  to  authorise  the  guarantee  by  the  Collooney, 
County  Councils  of  the  Counties of  Sligo  and ®aJlin?'' a nd 
Mayo and the Urban  District  Council  of  JBallina Railways and 
of  dividends  on  portion  of  the  capital  of  the  Piers Bill. 
Collooney,  Ballina, and BelmuIIet  Railways and 
Piers  Company,  and  for  other  purposes,  was 
presented, and read the first time ;  and referred 
to the Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Aldershot  Gas
and Water
Bill. 

  A  Bill  to extend the  limits  of  supply for  gas 
0 f   th e  Aldershot  Gas and Water  Company;  to 
empower  the  Company  to  construct  additional 
waterworks and to supply electricity ;. to change 
the name of the Company, and for other purposes, 
was  presented,  and  read  the  first  time;  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private Bills. 

A  Bill to empower the Mayor, Aldermen,  and  Conway  Gas 

Burgesses  of  the  Borough  of  Conway,  in  the  Bm-
County of  Carnarvon* to supply  gas outside  the 
limits  of  their  district  and  to  borrow  further 
moneys,  and  for  other  purposes  in  connection 
with their gas  undertaking,  was  presented, and 
read  the  first  time;  and  ordered  to  be read  a 
second  time. 

Ammanford 
Gas Bill. 

A  Bill for incorporating and conferring powers 

upon  the  Ammanford  Gas  Company  was  pre­
sented,  and  read  the  first  time;  and  ordered 
to be read a second time. 

Amman  Valley
Gas Bill.

  A  Bill  to  incorporate  and'  confer  powers  on 
the Amman  Valley Gas  Company, and for other 
purposes, was presented, and read the first time ; 
and  referred  to  the Examiners  of  Petitions for 
Private  Bills. 

Ards Railways
Bill.

A  Bill  to  authorise  the  guarantee  by  the 
County  Council  of  the  Administrative  County 
of  Down  of  dividends  on  portion  of  the share 
capital  of  the  Ards  Railways  Company, and for 
other purposes, was presented,  and read the  first 
time;  and referred to the Examiners of  Petitions 
for Private  Bills. 
VOL.  164. 

A  Bill  to  authorise  the  sale  and  transfer  of  Cork, Bandon, 

the  undertaking  of  the  lien  Valley  Railway ^ sj i o u f ch 
Company  to  the  Cork,  Bandon,  and  South  Bailway  Bill. 
Coast  Railway  Company,  and  for  other  pur­
poses,  was  presented,  and  read the  first  time; 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  for  empowering  the  Crystal  Palace  Crystal  Palace 
Company  to  borrow  money  from  the  Public  Company  Bill 
Works Loan  Commissioners, and  for  other pur­
poses,  was  presented, and  read  the  first  time ;, 
and  referred  to  the Examiners of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  to  confer  further  powers  upon  the  Derwent 

Derwent  Valley  Water Board, to confer powers 
upon  the  Leicester  Corporation  and  the  Shef­
field  Corporation,  and  for  other  purposes,  was 
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1909. 
presented,  and read the first time;  and  referred 
to the Examiners  of Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

[.No. 3. 


14 

Eastbourne 
Gas  Bill. 

presented, and  read  the first time  and  ordered 
to be read  a second  time. 

A  Bill  for extending  the  limits  of  supply  of 
the Eastbourne  Gas  Company ;  to  enable  that 
Company  to  acquire  the  undertaking  of  the 
Hailsham  Gas  Company;  to  consolidate  their 
capital, and  for  other  purposes, was  presented, 
and  read  the  first  time ;  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Edgware and 

A  Bill to authorise a deviation  of  part of  the 
Edgware  and  Hampstead Railway  and to confer 
Railway  Bill.  further powers  on  the  Edgware  and  Hampstead 
Railway  Company, and  for  other  purposes, was 
presented, and read  the first time;  and referred 
to the  Examiners of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

Folkestone, 
fnd Hnbe 
Tramways 

A  Bill  to  confer  further  powers  upon  the 
Folkestone,  Sandgate,  and  Hythe  Tramways 
Company  in relation  to  their  authorised  under­
taking;  to  amend  the  Acts  relating  to  the 
Company,  and  for  other  purposes,  was  pre­
sented, and read  the first time;  and referred  to 
the Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Gas Light 
A  Bill  to authorise the acquisition  by the  Gas 
Company  Bill  - ^ S ^t  and Coke Company  of the  undertaking  of 
'  the  West  Ham- Gas  Company ;  to confer further 
powers  on  the  Gas  Light  and  Coke  Company, 
and for other  purposes, was  presented,  and  read 
the first time ;  and referred to the Examiners  of 
Petitions  for  Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  to  extend  the  municipal  and  police  Greenock 
boundaries  of  the Burgh  of  Greenock ;  to con-  Corporation 
solidate  the  local Acts  and  Orders relating  to 
that  burgh ;  to  confer  further  po wers  on  the 
Provost,  Magistrates,  and  Councillors  thereof, 
and for other purposes, was  presented, and  read 
the first time ;  and  ordered  to  be read a second 
time. 

A  Bill  to  confer  further  powers  upon  the  Harrogate 

Harrogate  Gas  Company  was  presented,  and Gas Re­
read  the  first  time  ;  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  to  incorporate  a  Company,  and  to  Harwich 
authorise  the  Company  to construct  docks, sea- Dooks Bil1­
walls,  and  other  works  at  Harwich,  in  the 
County  of  Essex,  and  for  other  purposes, was 
presented,  and  read  the first time;  and ordered 
to  be read a second time. 

A  Bill  to  revive  the  powers  limited  by  the  Hastings 
Hastings  Harbour  Act,  1890, and the  Hastings  Harbour  Bill 
Harbour  Act,  1897, for the compulsory purchase 
of  lands,  as  extended  by the Hastings  Harbour 
Acts,  1900,  1903,  and  1905, and also to extend 
the  period  limited  by  those  Acts  for  the  con­
struction  and  completion  of  the  harbour  and 
works,  was  presented, and  read  the first time ; 
and ordered  to  be  read a second time. 

Glamorgan 
A  Bill to  constitute  a  Water  Board  for  the 
Water  Board  County of Glamorgan, and  to empower the Board 
to  acquire  the  undertakings  or  parts  of  the 
undertakings of certain  companies and to supply 
water;  to confer powers  on certain  local  autho­
rities,  and  for  other  purposes,  was  presented, 
and read  the first time ;  and  ordered  to  be read 
a second time. 

A  Bill  to  make  further  and  better  provision  Heywood 
with  regard to the tramway, gas, and  electricity  Corporation 
undertakings  of  the  Corporation  of  Heywood, Bl11' 
and  the  improvement,  health, and local govern­
ment  of  the  borough,  and  for  other  purposes, 
was  presented,  and  read  the  first  time ;  and 
ordered  to  be read a second time. 

Great Central 
Railway, 
railways  and works  and the acquisition  of  addi­
Powers>BiJl.  ti°n a'  lands by the  Great  Central  Railway  Com­

A Bill  to  authorise  the  construction  of  new 

pany;  the construction  of  a  street improvement 
in  the  City  of  Lincoln;  the  acquisition  of addi­
tional lands  by  the Manchester  South  Junction 
and Altrincham Railway  Company, the Seaforth 
and  Sefton Junction  Railway  Company, and the 
North  Lindsey  Light  Railways  Company;  the 
leasing  of  the  Seaforth  and  Sefton  Junction 
Railway  to  the  Great  Central  Railway  Com­
pany  ;  the  raising  of  additional  capital  by  the 
Great  Central  Railway  Company  and  the 
Humber  Commercial  Railway  and  Dock  Com­
pany,  and  for  other  purposes,  was  presented, 
and  read  the  first  time  ;  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions for Pri vate Bills. 

Great 
A  Bill  to  authorise  a  working  union  of  the 
undertakings of  the  Great  Northern,  the  Great 
Northern, 
anTai^f™1'  Central, and  the  Great  Eastern  Railway  Com-
Bastern 
panies ;  to  authorise  the  construction  of  new 
Railways Bill,  works;  to  facilitate the conveyance  of traffic  on 
the  railways  of  the  said  Companies,  and  for 
other  purposes,  was  presented,  and  read  the 
first  time;  and  referred  to  the  Examiners  of 
, Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Great Western  A  Bill for conferring  further powers upon the 
Railway 
Great  Western  Railway  Company  in  respect of 
Vcwere)  Bill,  their own undertaking, and upon  that  Company 
and the Midland  Railway Company  in respect of 
an undertaking  in which  they  are  jointly  inter­
ested, and upon  the Bala and  Festiniog Railway 
Company  and  the  Weymouth  and  Portland 
Railway  Company, and  for  other purposes, was 

A  Bill  to  extend  the  time for the completion  Hoiywood 
of  tramways authorised  by  the  Hoiywood  Tram-  Tramways 
ways  Act,  1904,  was  presented,  and  read  the  1 ' 
first  time ;  and  referred  to  the  Examiners  of 
Petitions for Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  to  authorise  the  Hull  and  Barnsley  Hull and 
Railway  Company  to  construct  new  railways,  Barnsley 
and  for  other  purposes, was presented, and read  al way  1 " 
the first time ;  and referred to  the Examiners  of 
Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  to alter and amend the existing schemes  Jones's 

regulating  the  Charity  or  Foundation  called 
Jones' s Almshouse and Grammar School Found- school 
ation;  to  make  new  provisions  with  respect  to  Foundation 
the  disposal  of  the property  and revenues of the BlU­
said charity or foundation, and for other purposes, 
was  presented,  and  read  the  first  time;  and 
ordered to  be read a second time. 

a nd 

A  Bill  for  conferring  further  powers  on  the  Leyland  and 
Levland  and  Farington  Gas Company,  and for  Farington  Gas. 
changing  the  name  of  the  Company,  wasBlU* 
presented,  and read the first time ;  and referred 
to  the  Examiners  of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  for  the dissolution  and reincorporation  Littlehampton 

of  the  Littlehampton  Gas  Company,  Limited, Gas BlU­
and  for  other  purposes, was presented, and read 
the first time ;  and referred to the Examiners  of 
Petitions for Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  to empower the Urban  District  Council  Llanelly 
of  the  District of  the  Borough  of  Llanelly, in Water  BiU­
the  County  of  Carmarthen,  to  construct  and 

3 ]  9  EDW.  VII. 

18th February. 

15 


maintain  additional  waterworks ;  to  define  and 
extend  the  limits  for  the  supply  of  water,  and 
for  other  purposes,  was  presented, and read the 
first time ;  and ordered  to be read a second time. 

London  and 
EaifwayBmmtbe  L o n ( l o  n  and  North  Western Railway  Com­

A  Bill  for  conferring  further  powers  upon 

pany,  and  for  other  purposes,  was  presented, 
and  read  the  first  time ;  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  to  empower  the  London  County 
London 
Council  to  construct  railway  sidings  in  the 
Council 
(General 
County  of  Surrey,  and  to. confer  other  powers 
Powers)  Bill,  upon  that  Council;  to  make  provisions  with 
respect  to  milk supply  and sanitary matters;  to 
amend  the  London  Building  Acts;  to  confer 
powers  upon  the  Councils of  the  Metropolitan 
Borough  of  Southwark  and  the Royal  Borough 
of  Kensington,  and  for  other  purposes,  was 
presented,  and  read  the first time ;  and ordered 
to  be  read a second  time. 

and referred  to  the  Examiners of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  to authorise the Corporation  of Oldham  Oldham 
to  construct  additional  waterworks,  tramways,  Corporation 
and  street  improvements;  to  confer 
powers  with  respect  to  the  supply  of  gas  and 
electricity;  to  make  further  provision  for  the 
health,  local  government,  and  improvement. of 
the  borough,  and  for  other  purposes,  was  pre­
sented, and read  the  first  time ;  and  ordered  to 
be read  a second time. 

further  U1* 

A  Bill  to confer further powers upon the  City  Oxford and 

of  Oxford  Electric  Tramways,  Limited;  to™®4™* 
amend  certain  agreements  with  the  Mayor,  Bill. 
Aldermen, and Citizens of the City of Oxford, and 
to  amend  the  Oxford  and  District  Tramways 
Act, 1907, and for other purposes, was presented, 
and  read  the  first  time ;  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills. 

Mountain Ash  A  Bill  to confer further powers  on  the  Urban 
CounciHSilf^  district  Council  of  Mountain  Ash  in  relation 
to their gas, water, and electricity  undertakings, 
and to  make  further  and  better  provision with 
regard  to  the  improvement,  health,  and  local 
government  of  the  district, and  for  other  pur­
poses,  was  presented, and  read  the  first  time; 
and  ordered  to be  read a second time. 

A  Bill  to  authorise  the  Pontypridd  Water-  Pontypridd 

works  Company  to construct  railways and other  Water Bil1­
works in the Counties of Brecon  and Glamorgan; 
to  amend  the  Pontypridd  Waterworks  and 
Tramroad  Act,  1908 ;  to  abandon  the  construc­
tion  of  certain  works  authorised by  the Act  of 
1908,  and  for  other  purposes,  was  presented, 
and  read  the  first  time ;  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners of Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

^   ^ ^   t o  e m P o w er  

Kead 7' and 
Newry,  Keady,  and 
Tynan  Light  Railway  Company  to  construct 
Tynan' ^ 
Railway  Bill,  new  railways  and  to  abandon  portion  of  their 
authorised  railways ;  to  revive  and  extend  the 
time limited  by the  Newry, Keady,  and  Tynan 
Light  Railway  Act,  1900,  the  Ulster  and 
Connaught  Light  Railways Act,  1903, and  the 
Newry,  Keady, and Tynan  Light  Railway  Act, 
1905, for  the compulsory  purchase  of  lands  for 
the  purposes  thereof  and  for  the  completion 
of  the  railways  thereby  authorised;  to  change 
the name  of  the  Company, and  for  other  pur­
poses, was  presented,  and  read  the  first  time ; 
and  referred to  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills. 

Northallerton 
A  Bill  to empower  the  Council  of  the  Urban 
Water  Bill.  District of Northallerton  to  construct  additional 
waterworks,  and  for  other  purposes,  was  pre­
sented, and read the first time ;  and  ordered  to 
be read a second time. 

  a nd  S o u th

A  Bill  to  enlarge  the  powers  of  the  North 
North  ana 
  Shields  Electric  Railway  Company 
EleetrSh|eldS
Railway  Bill,  and  extend  the  time  for  the  construction  of 
works,  and  for  other  purposes,  was  presented, 
and  read  the  first  time;  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

North  East 
London 
Railway  Bill. 

A  Bill for conferring further powers upon the 
North  East  London  Railway  Company  was 
presented, and read  the first time ;  and referred 
to the Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills. 

Uorth 
A  Bill  to  confer  further  powers  upon  the 
Metropolitan  North  Metropolitan  Electric  Power  Supply 
®eot[lc^°wer  Company,  and  for  other  purposes,  was  pre-
sented,  and  read  the  first  time;  and  referred 
to  the Examiners of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

UPP 7  1 

A  Bill  to  transfer  the  undertaking  of  the  Prestatyn 
Prestatyn  Gas  Company  to  the  Prestatyn Urban^strict 
Urban  District  Council;  to  confer  upon  that
Council further powers  in  relation  to the  supply 
of gas and  water, and  to make  further  provision 
for  the  local  government, health, and  improve 
ment  of  the  district,  was  presented,  and  read 
the first time;  and  ordered to be read  a second 
time. 

  otmcl 

1

A  Bill  to  authorise the Prestou,  Chorley,  and Preston,  

Horwich  Tramways  Company  to  extend  the  tJhorley^and  

period  limited  for  construction  ot  works  and Tramways  

land  purchases,  and  for  other  purposes,  was Bill, 

presented, and read the first time ;  and referred 

to the Examiners of  Petitions for  Private  Bills.  


A  Bill  to  authorise  the  Sligo  and  Arigna  Sligo and 


Railway  Company to  construct  railways  in  the  

Arigna  Valley,  in  the  County  of  Roscommon,  a  w ay  1 
and  for other  purposes, was presented, and  read  

the first time ;  and referred to the  Examiners  of  

Petitions for Private  Bills.  


A  Bill for making railways  in  the  Counties  of  Sligo and 


Sligo,  Donegal,  and  Leitrim,  to  be  called  the 
Sligo  and  Bundoran  Railway,  and  for  other
purposes, was presented, and read the first time; 
and  referred  to the  Examiners of  Petitions for 
Private  Bills. 

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a

  w ay  1 

A  Bill  to  constitute  and  incorporate  a  Gas Swinton  and 
Board  for  the  Urban  Districts of  Swinton  and  Mexborough 
Mexborough,  in  the  West Riding  of the  County jjjg Board 
of  York,  and  to  transfer  to  and  vest  in  such 
Board the undertaking  of  the  Swinton and  Mex­
borough  Gas  Light  Company,  and  for  other 
purposes, was presented, and read the first time; 
and ordered  to be read a second time. 

North  West 
London 
Railway  Bill. 

A  Bill  for  empowering  the  North  West 
London  Railway  Company  to  connect  their 
authorised railways with  the  Baker  Street  and 
Waterloo  Railway  and  to  abandon a  portion  of 
their  authorised  railways,  and  for  othen  pur-
noses, was  presented,  and  read  the  first  time; 

VOL.  164. 

A  Bill  to  empower  the  London  County  Thames 
Council  to  make  a  subway  under  the  River  Tunnel 
Thames  in  the  Metropolitan  Borough  of  Wool- g j j jf   and 
wich,  and  for  other  purposes,  was  presented,  Woolwich) 
and read the first time ;  and  ordered  to be read BiU­
a second time. 

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11th—18th 

[No. at 

A  Bill  to  authorise  the  Wallasey  Urban 
Wallasey 
t^"1.^!8.,^!1  District  Council  to  construct  tramways  and 
Improvements 
street 
improvements,  and  to  confer  further 
Bill. 
powers upon them  in regard to their promenades, 
and for other  purpose?,  was presented, and  read 
the first time ;  and  ordered  to  be  read  a second 
time. 

A  Bill  to  provide for  the  granting  of  super-­
Wandsworth 
Borough 
annuation allowances to  the  officers and servants 
Council 
(Superannua-	 of the  Mayor,  Aldermen, and  Councillors of  the 
tion)  Bill.  	 Metropolitan  Borough  of  Wandsworth,  and  for 
other purposes, was presented, and read the first 
time ;  and ordered  to be  read a second  time. 

W aterford 
A  Bill  to alter  and  improye  the  constitution 
Harbour  Bill.  of  the  Commissioners  for  improving  the  Port 
and  Harbour  of  Waterford, and  to  provide  for 
the  representation  of  traders  and  shipowners 
thereon,  and for  other  purposes, was  presented, 
and read the first time ;  and  ordered  to  be read 
a second time. 

A  Bill  to  confer  further  powers  upon  the 
Watford^ 
Council  Bil™  Watford  Urban  District  Council  in relation  to 
their water and  electricity  undertakings, and  to 
make further provision  for the local  government 
of  the district, was presented, and read  the first 
time ;  and ordered  to be read a second  time. 

West 
Gloucester-
shire Water 
Bill. 	

A  Bill  for extending  the  limits  of  supply  of, 
and  conferring  further  powers  upon, the  West 
Gloucestershire  Water  Company, and  for  other 
purposes, was presented, and read  the first time ; 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners of  Petitions for 
Private  Bills. 

A  Bill  to  empower  the  York  Town  and 
York  Town 
Blackwater  Gas  Company  to supply  electricity, 
and Black- 
(Electric8 
and  to confer further  powers  on and  to  change 
Lighting, &c.)  the  name  of  the  Company,  and  for  other  pur-
poses,  was  presented,  and  read  the  first  time ; 
BiU- 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners of  Petitions for 
Private  Bills. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  First  

Report. 

British 
Museum. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie  upoD  the Table. 

A  Petition  of  the  Trustees  of  the  British  

Museum  being  offered  to  be  presented—(Mr.  

Butcher) ; 

Secretary  Sir Edward Grey, by His Majesty's 
Command,  acquainted  the  House  that  His 
Majesty,  having  been  informed  of  the  contents 
of  the  said  Petition,  recommends  it  to  the 
consideration  of  the  House-

Then  the  said  Petition  was  brought  up, 
and  read;  setting  forth,  That  the  only  funds 
belonging  to the  Petitioners  for  the  support  of 
the  British  Museum consist  of  thirty thousand 
pounds  Two and one-half per Cent. Consolidated 
Annuities, the annual dividends whereof amount 
for  1909-10  to seven hundred  and fifty pounds ; 
of a bequest of  the late Earl  of  Bridgwater, the 
annual proceeds  of  which  amount to about  three 
hundred  and sixty-three  pounds;  of  a bequest of 
the late Lord  Farnborough, the annual proceeds 
of  which amount  to  about  seventy-two pounds ; 
of  a  fund  bequeathed  by  the  late  Mr.  Vincent 
Stuckey  Lean, consisting  at the present  time  of; 
fifty-six  thousand  five  hundred  and  eighty-five; 
pounds  ten shillings  Stock  in Local  Loans;  and 
also  of  a  fund  bequeathed  by  the  late  Mr. 
Charles  Drury  Edward  Fortnum,  invested  in 
Metropolitan  Consolidated  Three  and a half per 
Cents,  amounting  at  the  present  time  to  eight 
thousand  and  ninety  - two  pounds  nineteen 
shillings  and  three  pence  Stock;  that  the 

February. 

1909. 
establishment  is  necessarily  attended  with  an  

expense  far  beyond  the  annual produce  of  the  

above-mentioned  sums, and the trust cannot with 

benefit  to  the  public  be  carried  on  without  the  

aid  of  Parliament;  and  praying  the  House  

to  grant  them  such  further  support  towards  

enabling  them  to  carry  on  the execution  of  the  

trust  reposed  in  them  by  Parliament  for  the  

general benefit of  learning and useful  knowledge  

as to the  House  shall seem meet. 


Ordered, That  the  said  Petition  do  lie  upon  


the  Table.  


Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Passengers  to 

(1) and from 
Command, —  Copy  of  Return  showing 
numbers  and  nationalities  of  the  Passengers Europe. 
that  left  or  arrived  in  the  United  Kingdom  for 
or  from  places out  of  Europe ;  and  (2)  the net 
balance  of  such  Passengers  outward  or  inward 
in  each  month of the year  1909. 

Places out of 

Mr.  Churchill  also presented, pursuant to the Lighthouses, 

directions of several Acts of  Parliament,—Copies &c. (Local 
of Reports  to the Board of  Trade  by  the Trinity 
House  of  Deptford  Strond,  the  Commissioners 
of Northern Lighthouses, and the  Commissioners 
of  Irish  Lights  of  their  Inspection  of  Local 
Lighthouses, Buoys,  and  Beacons. 

Inspections.) 
No. 25. 

Copy  of Rules, dated  1st January  1909, made Railway  and 
by  the  Railway  and  Canal  Commissioners  in Canal Traffic 
pursuance	  of  the  twentieth  section  of  the 
Railway  and  Canal  Traffic  Act,  1888,  varying 
Rules  60  and  65  of  the  Railway  and  Canal 
Commission Rules,  1889. 

No. 26. 

Act,  1888. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table;  and  that  the  Papers  relative  to  Light­
houses, &c. (Local  Inspections) and the  Railway 
and  Canal  Traffic Act,  1888,  he  printed. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Treaty  Series 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Protocol  ( N  a  J> 1909-> 
between the United Kingdom, Austria-Hungary, 
France,  Germany,  Italy,  Russia,  and  Turkey 
respecting  Turkish  Customs  Duties.  Signed 
at  Constantinople,  25th  April  1907. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Woods, 

directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,-
Abstract  Accounts  of  the  Commissioners  of  His Revenues. 
Majesty's  Woods,  Forests,  and  Land  Revenues  No. 27. 
for  the  year  ended  31st  March  1908,  with the 
Report  of  the  Comptroller  and  Auditor  General 
thereon. 

" 

Copy  of  Treasury  Minute,  dated  12th  National 

February  1909,  directing  that  the  moneys 
administered  by  the  Board  of  Trustees  for  the 
National  Galleries of  Scotland,  other than those 
derived 
from  the  Vote  of  Parliament,  be 
examined  and  audited  by  the  Comptroller  and 
Auditor  General. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie upon the 
Table;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  Woods, 
Forests, and  Land  Revenues be printed. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Crown  Agents. 

Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Committee 
of  Inquiry  into  the  organisation  of  the  Crown 
Agents  Office,  with  a  Despatch  thereon  from 
the  Secretary  of  State  for  the  Colonies,  to­
gether with Minutes of Evidence and Appendices. 
Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His  Army 
Majesty's  Command,—Estimate  of  the  sum ®^™a0tes' 
gy 
required  for  the  year  ending  3'1st  March  1910 

No.  3.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

\§th—l$th  February. 

17 

for  the Effective and  Non-effective  Services  of 
the  Army. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Estimate do lie  upon 

the Table  ;  and be  printed. 

Post Office 
(Foreign  and 
Colonial 
Parcel  Post.) 

Mr.  Sydney Buxton presented, pursuant to the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
the  Foreign  and  Colonial  Parcel  Post  Amend­
ment 
December  1908. 

(No.  27)  Warrant,  1908,  dated  14th 

Post office
(Foreignand
Colonial  Lost.)  1 9 0 8)  d a t e d  Y l th   December  1908.  


Copy of the Foreign  and  Colonial  Post  (Cash 
  o n  Delivery)  Amendment  (No.  5)  Warrant, 

Post  Office 
Copy  of the Foreign  and Colonial  Post  (Cash  

(Foreign  and   o n  Delivery)  Amendment  (No.  6)  Warrant, 
Colonial  Post.)  1 9 ( ) 9j

J a n u a rJ   1 9 0 9 . 

Hawick 
District  of 
Burghs 
Writ. 

Offences 
(Ireland.) 

Ordered,  That the said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his 
Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to make 
out  a  new  Writ  for  the  electing  of  a  Member 
to  serve  in  this  present  Parliament  for  the 
Hawick  District  of  Burghs, in  the room of  the 
Right  Honourable  Thomas  Shaw, who, since his 
Election  for  the  said  district  of  burghs,  hath 
accepted 
the  Office  of  Lord  of  Appeal  in 
Ordinary.—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

Ordered,  That there be laid before  this House 
a  Return  showing, respectively, for  each  month 
of  1908, the number of  cattle-drives,  of  cases of 
firing into  houses  and  at persons, of  boycotting 
(complete  arid  partial),  of  prosecutions  for 
foregoing  Offences, of results of prosecutions,  of 
claims for  malicious injuries,  amount  of  awards, 
number  of  appeals  against  awards,  &c.  (in  the 
same form  as  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  289  of 
Session  1908),—(Mr. Lonsdale.) 

Trade and 
Navigation. 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this  House 
a  Return  of  Accounts  relating  to  Trade  and 
Navigation  of  the  United  Kingdom  for  each 
month during  the year  1909.—(Mr. Churchill.) 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

Bin  2. 

Mr.  Attorney  General,  supported  by  Mr. 
Secretary  Gladstone and Mr. Harcourt, presented 
a  Bill  to  make  better  provision  for  punishing 
Strangers who abuse  the  privilege  of  admission 
to  either  House of  Parliament;  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  next;  and to be printed. 

King's  Speech 
The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
(Motionfor an the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Main  Question 
proposed  upon  the  16th  day  of  this  instant 
February, That  an humble Address  be presented 
to  His Majesty,  as followeth : 

ress'^ 

Most  Gracious  Sovereign, 

We,  Your  Majesty's  most  dutiful  and loyal 
subjects,  the  Commons of  the United  Kingdom 
of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  in  Parliament 
assembled,  beg leave  to offer our humble  thanks 
to  Your  Majesty for the Gracious  Speech  which 
Your  Majesty has addressed  to  both Houses  of 
Parliament—(Mr.  Rogers) ; 

And  the  Main  Question  being  again  pro­
posed :—The  House resumed the said adjourned 
Debate. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Question,  by  adding  at  the  end  thereof 
the  words  "  But  humbly  represent  to  Your 
Majesty  that this  House  views  with anxiety the 
state  of  trade  and  employment  in  this country, 
and the failure  of  Your  Majesty's  Ministers  to 
recognise the nature and gravity of  the situation, 
and  regrets  that  there  is  no  mention  in  Your 

VOL.  164.­

Fiscal 
Reform. 

Majesty's  Gracious  Speech  of  any proposals for 
enlarging  the  market  for  British  and  Irish 
produce  and  increasing  the  demand  for  labour 
by  a  reform  of  our fiscal system,  which  would 
promote  the  growth  and  stability  of  our  home 
trade,  provide  means  for  negotiating  for  the 
mitigation  of  foreign  tariffs,  and  develop  our 
oversea  trade,  through  the  establishment  of 
a  system  of  mutual  preference  between  the 
different portions of  the  Empire."—(Mr. Austen 
Chamberlain.) 

And  the  Question being proposed, That  those 
words  be  there  added  :—And  a  Debate  arising 
thereupon; 

And  a  Motion  being  made,  and the  Question 
being  put,  That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned 
—• (Mr.  Wyndham): — It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

Ordered,  That  a  Select  Committee  of  Five  Application  of 
Members  be appointed  to  inquire  and  report  as fn^erci^of" 
to the  powers  conferred  on  local  authorities  by  Borrowing 
local  Acts, Provisional  Orders, stock regulations,  Powers 
or  otherwise, of utilising for  purposes for  which 
such authorities have Borrowing  Powers  Sinking 
Funds  (including  loan  funds  and  redemption 
funds)  set  aside  by  them for  the  repayment  or 
redemption  of  loans raised by  the issue of  stock, 
or by  any other method ;  as to the expediency or 
otherwise  of  such  powers  being  conferred ;  and 
as  to  any  conditions  which  it  is  desirable  to 
attach to the granting or use of  such  powers. 

The  Committee  was accordingly  nominated  of 
Mr. Ashton, Mr.  Fenwick, Mr.  Harmood-Banner,
Mr. Masterman,  and Mr.  Charles  Nicholson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Committee  have  power to 

send for persons, papers, and records. 

Ordered, That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  then  the  House, having  continued  to  

sit till Eleven  of  the clock, adjourned  till  

to-morrow. 


[No.  4.] 

Friday,  \§th February  1909. 

The  House met at Twelve  of  the  clock. 

P r a t e r s. 

G E V E R A  L  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  Public 
^ 
Table
- L a m e ­  

and  read  ;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Petitions. 
Vide  First 
Report. 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  by  His  Majesty's Civil  Services 
Command, —  Estimate  of  the  further  sums aud  Revenue 
Departments 
required  to  be voted  for  the  Civil  Services and (Supple-
Revenue  Departments  for  the  Service  of  the mentary 
year ending  31st March  1909. 

Estimates, 
1908-9.) 

No. 29. 
Mr.  Hobhouse  also presented, pursuant to the Naval  Works 

directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,— 
Account prepared  by  the Admiralty  under  the 
provisions of the Naval  Works  Acts, during the 
year  ended  the  31st  March  1908;  together 
with  the  Report  of 
the  Comptroller  and 
Auditor  General thereon. 

Acts. 

No. 30. 

An  Account  of  the  gross  amount  of  all National  Debt 

monevs received  and paid  by the  Commissioners  (Military 
for  the  Reduction  of  the  National  Debt  on 
account of  the Fund for Military Savings Banks, 
pursuant  to  the  Military  Savings  Banks  Act, 

' 

3 1 

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18 	
1859,  from  the  19th  September  1845  to  the 
5th January  1909, 

19 th  February. 

Land  Registry 
(New 
Buildings) 
Act, 1900.  	

N o.  32.  	

Account  showing the  money  issued  from the 
Consolidated  Fund  under  the provisions of  the 
Land  Registry (New  Buildings)  Act,  1900, and 
of  the  expenditure;  the  money  expended  and 
borrowed  and  the  securities  created  under  the 
said  Act, for  the period  ended  the  31st  March 
1908;  together  with  the  Report  of  the  Comp­
troller  and Auditor  General  thereon. 

Public Offices 
Accounts  showing  the  moneys  issued  under 
(Acquisition  of  the provisions of  the  Public  Offices (Acquisition 
Site) Act, 
the  Public 
of  Site)  Act,  1895,  Session   2 ; 
1895, &e. 	
No. 33. 	 Offices  (Westminster)  Site  Act,  1896  ;  the 
Public  Offices (Whitehall)  Site  Act,  1897 ;  the 
Public  Buildings  Expenses  Act,  1898,  and 
the Public  Buildings  Expenses  Act,  1903  ;  the 
moneys  issued  out  of  the  Consolidated  Fund, 
the moneys borrowed  and the  securities  created 
in  respect  thereof,  the  disposal  of  moneys 
issued  to  the  National  Debt  Commissioners  for 
temporary  investment,  and  the  expenditure 
under  the  provisions  of  the  Acts  to  the  31st 
March  1908 ;  together  with  the Report  of  the 
Comptroller  and  Auditor  General  thereon. 

No.  34.  	

Account  showing  the  money  issued  from  the 
Public Offices 
Site (Dublin)  Consolidated  Fund  under  the  provisions  of  the 
Act, 1903. 
Public  Offices  Site  (Dublin)  Act,  1903, and  of 
the  expenditure; 
the  money  expended  and 
borrowed  and  the  securities  created  Under  the 
Said Act,  for the  period  ended  the  31st  March 
1908 ;  together  with  the  Report  of  the  Comp­
troller  and Auditor  General  thereon. 

Ordered.,  That  the said  Papers  and  Estimates 

do lie upon the  Table ;  and  be  printed. 

Pauperism 
Wa"lls)nd  a" d
(Monthly 
Statements.) 

Ordered, That  there  be laid before  this House 
  Copy  of  Statements,  for  each  month  of  the 
a
year  1909,  of  the  number  of  Paupers  relieved 
in  England  and  Wales  (in  continuation  of  Par­
liamentary  Paper,  No.  58  of  Session  1908).— 
(Mr. Masterman.) 

Glasgow 
Burgh 
(Central 
Division) 	
"Writ. 	

Ordered, That  Mr.  Speaker do issue his  War-
rant  to  the	  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make  out 
a  new  Writ  for  the  electing  of  a  Member  to 
serve  in  this  present  Parliament  for  the  Burgh 
of  Glasgow  (Central  Division),  in  the  room  of 
Sir Andrew  Mitchell  Torrance,  deceased.—(Mr. 
Joseph Pease.) 

Mr.  Dobson, supported by  Sir Edward Sassoon, 
Daylight 
Saving Bill.  Mr.  Robert  Pearee,  Sir  William,  Bull,  Mr.  Pirie,
Bill   3.  	 Mr.  Thomas Frederick  Richards,  Mr.  Horniman,
and  Mr.  Seaverns, presented  a  Bill  to  promote 
the  earlier  use  of  Daylight  in  certain  months 
yearly,  and  for other purposes  relating  thereto : 
And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second time  upon Friday  the  5th  day  of  March 
next;  and to  be  printed. 

Mr.  Brigg,  supported  by  Mr.  Talbot,  Sir 
Sale of 
Intoxicating  Robert Perks,  Sir  Thomas Whittaker, Mr. Arthur
Liquors on 
Henderson, Mr.  Shachleton, Sir  George  White, 
Sunday  Bill 
Bill  4.  	 Mr.  Ferens,  Sir  John Randies,  and  Mr.  Sloan,
presented  a Bill  to  prohibit  or  to  regulate  the 
Sale  of  Intoxicating  Liquors  on  Sunday :  And 
the  same was  ordered  to  be  read a second  time 
upon  Friday  the  12th  day of  March  next;  and 
to  be  printed. 

Representation  Mr.  Howard,  supported  by  Sir  Charles 
of  the People	  M'Laren,  Mr.  Dickinson,  Mr.  Stanger,  Mr. 
Bill. 
Arthur  Henderson,  Mr.  Fenwick,  Mr.  Eugene
Bill  5..  Wason, Mr.  Montagu,  Mr.  Ramsay Macdonald, 
Mr.  Steionrt-Smith, Mr.  Osmond  Williams, and 
Mr.  Gulland, presented  a Bill to  amend  the  Law 
relating  to  the  Representation  of  the  People  in 
the  United  Kingdom  and  to remove the  electoral 

1909. 

[No.  4. 

Disabilities  of  Women:  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Friday 
the  19th day  of  March  next;  and to  be  printed. 

Mr.  Hills,  supported  by  Sir  Charles  Dilke,  Sweated 
Mr.  Goulding,  and  Mr.  Arthur  Henderson,  Industries 
presented  a  Bill  to  improve  the  conditions  Of  BlU* 
Employment,  including  the  establishment  of  a 
legal  minimum  wage,  of  persons  employed  in 
certain  Industries  :  And  the  same  Was  ordered 
to  be  read a second  time  upon  Friday  the 26th 
day of  March  next;  and to  be printed. 

Mr.  Edward Dunn,  supported by  Mr.  Ramsay Education 
Macdonald,  Mr.  Clynes,  Mr.  Curran,  Mr.   (Adminis-
Charles Duncan,  Mr.  Keir  Hardie,  Mr.  Arthur 
Henderson, Mr.  Jowett,  Mr.  Thomas  Frederick Bill. 
Richards, Mr.  George  Roberts,  Mr.  Summerbell,  Rill 7. 
and Mr.  Tyson  Wilson, presented  a Bill  to amend 
the provisions  of  the  Education  ( Administrative 
Provisions)  Act,  1907, and the  Education  (Pro­
vision  of  Meals) Act,  1906  :  And  the same was 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Friday 
the 23rd  day of April  next;  and to be printed. 

Mr.  Robert Pearce,  supported  by  Mr.  Enoch  Coal Mines 

Edwards,  Mr.  William  Abraham  (Rhondda),^ (Check-
Mr.  Burt,  Mr. Albert  Stanley, Mr.  Arthur  Hen- weigher3)  BilK 
derson,  Mr.  Brace,  Mr.  Wadsworth,  Mr.  Barnes,
Mr.  Walsh,  and  Mr.  William  Edwin  Harvey, 
presented a Bill  to  amend  the Coal Mines Regu­
lation  Acts:  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be 
read  a  second  time  upon  Friday  the  7 th  day  of 
May  next;  and to  be  printed. 

Bill   8. 

Mr.  Hodge,  supported  by  Mr.  Arthur  Hen-  Unemployed 
derson,  Mr.  Enoch  Edwards,  Mr.  Steadman,  Workmen  Bill, 
Mr.  Ramsay  Macdonald,  Mr. John  Ward,  Mr.  Bill 9. 
Shackleton,  Mr.  Whitwell  Wilson,  Mr.  Alden,
Mr.  Chiozza  Money,  Mr.  Branch,  and  Mr. 
Barnes, presented a Bill to provide Work  through 
Public  Authorities  for  unemployed  persons, 
and  for  other  purposes  connected  therewith: 
And  the  same  was ordered to  be read  a  second 
time  upon  Friday  the  30th  day  of  April  next; 
and  to be  printed. 

Mr.  Lundon,  supported  by  Mr.  William Red- Roman 
mond,  Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien,  Mr.  Dillon,  Mr.  Catholic 
William Abraham  (Cork),  Captain 'Donelan, and Remov^Bill. 
Mr.  Patrick  Meehan,  presented  a Bill  to  remove 
certain Disabilities  affecting the  Roman Catholic 
population;  and  to  make  certain  alterations  in 
the  Accession  Declaration:  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Friday 
the  14th  day  of  May  next;  and to be  printed. 

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Mr.  Ginnell,  supported  by  Mr.  Boland,  Sir  p0iiCe 
Walter Nugent,  Mr.  Patrick  Meehan, and  Mr.  (Malicious 
Edward  Barry,  presented  a  Bill  to  amend the 
Law  relating  to  Police  and  Malicious  Injuries 
in  Ireland  :  And  the  same was ordered  to  be 
read  a  second  time  upon  Friday  the  21st  day 
of  May  next;  and to be  printed. 

Bill 
^  1 

Mr.  Charles  Roberts, supported  by  Mr.  Carrie  Licensed 

Grant, Mr.  Gulland, Mr. Fenwick, Sir Ivor  Her-  Premises 
bert,  Mr  Montagu,  M r  William  Redmond, Mr  g ^ Ug 
Russell  Rea,  Mr.  Shackleton, Mr.  Sloan,  and  Bill. 
Mr-  Whitwell Wilson, presented  a Bill  to  secure  Bill  12. 
the  closing  of  Licensed  Premises  on  Election 
days:  And  the  same was  ordered  to  be read  a 
second  time  upon  Friday  the  2nd  day of  April 
next;  and  to  be  printed. 

Mr.  O1Mailer/,  supported  by  Mr.  Clancy, Town  Tenants 
Mr.  MacVeagli,  Mr.  MacNeill,  Mr.  Cullinan,  (Inland)  Bill. 
Mr.  Power, Mr.  Hazleton,  Mr.  Abraham (North 
East  Cork),  and  Mr.  Field, presented  a  Bill  to 
amend the  Town  Tenants  (Ireland)  Act,  1906 : 
And  the  same was  ordered  to  be read  a  second 

B i l1   I3­

No..4]  9  BDW.  Y IL 

19 th  February. 

19 

time upon  Friday  the  2nd  day  of  April  next; 
and to  be printed. 

Temperance 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Mr.  Pirie,  supported  by  Mr.  Ainsworth,  Mr. 
Findlay,  Mr.  Gulland,  Mr.  Robert  Harcourt, 
Mr.  Lamont,  Sir  George  M'Crae,  Mr.  Munro
Bill  14,  Ferguson,  Captain  Murray,  Mr.  Rainy,  Mr. 
Sutherland,  and  Mr.  Eugene  Wason,  presented 
a Bill  to promote Temperance  in  Scotland :  And 
the  same was ordered  to be  read  a  second  time 
upon Friday  next;  and to  be printed. 

Mr.  William  Redmond,  supported  by  Mr. 
Labourers 
(Ireland) Acta  Q'Shea,  Mr.  Kendal  O'Brien,  Mr.  Nannetti,
Vincent Kennedy, Mr.  O'Malley, and  Mr. 
Amendment
Clancy, presented a Bill to  amend the  Labourers 
(Ireland) Acts:  And  the  same  was  ordered  to 
be read  a second  time upon  Friday  the 21st  day 
of  May  next;  and  to be printed. 

Bill 15.

Public Health
Act (1875)
fwato™6^
Eights)  Bill.
Bill 16.

  Mr.  Leif  Jones,  supported  by  Mr. Brace,  Sir 
  Luke  White, Mr.  Shackleton,  Mr. Nicholls,  Mr. 
Helme, Viscount  Helmsley, Mr.  Charles  Roberts,
  Mr. Montagu,  and  Sir  George M'Crae, presented 
  a  Bill to empower  Local  Authorities  to  acquire 
Water  Rights  otherwise  than  by  agreement: 
And  the  same was ordered  to be read  a  second 
time  upon Friday  the  16th  day  of April  next; 
and to  be printed. 

  Mr.  Seaverns,  supported  by  Sir  George 
Ecclesiastical
Disorders BUI. Kekewich,  Mr.  M<Arthur,  Mr.  Ridsdale,  Mr. 

Bill 17.

Sloan,  Mr.  Charles Corbett, Mr.  Thomas Cor­
bett,  Mr.  Cowan,  Mr.  Harmood-Banner,  Dr. 
Hazel, Sir Joseph  Leese,  and  Mr.  Godfrey  Bar­
ing, presented  a  Bill  to  provide  for  the  better 
enforcement  of  the  Laws  relating  to  Public 
Worship,  and  to  deal  with  Ecclesiastical  Dis­
orders  in  the  Church  of  England:  And  the 
same  was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Friday  the  23rd  day  of  April  next;  and 
to  be printed. 

Sir  Charles  Dilke,  supported  by  Mr.  Seddon,  Shops Bill. 
Mr. Bowerman,  Mr.  Timothy Davies, Mr.  Arthur  Bill 22. 
Henderson, Sir  George  Mi Crae,  Mr. Nannetti,
Mr.  Alfred  Scott,  Mr.  Shackleton, and  Mr. 
Wedgwood, presented  a  Bill  to amend  the  Law 
relating  to  Shops:  And  the  same was  ordered 
to  be  read a second time  upon  Friday  the 26tli 
day of  March next:  and to be  printed. 

Sir  Luke  White, supported  by  Mr.  Higham,  Coroners' 
Mr.  Arthur  Henderson, Mr.  Summerbell,  Mr. Inquests  Bill. 
Toulmin,  and Mr.  Cameron,  presented , a  Bill  to 
Bill  23. 
dispense with  the compulsory  viewing  of  bodies 
by juries  on  the  holding  of  Coroners'  Inquests : 
And  the  same was ordered  to  be  read  a second 
time  upon  Friday  the 5th  day of  March  next; 
and to  be printed. 

. 

Mr.  Sloan,  supported  by  Mr.  Arthur  Hender-  Licensing 
son,  Mr.  Glendinning,  Mr.  Howard,  and  Mr.  (Inland)  Bill. 
Leif Jones, presented  a  Bill  to  provide  for  the 
better administration of  the  Licensing  Laws  in 
Ireland, and for other purposes connected  there­
with :  And  the  same was ordered  to  be read  a 
second time upon Friday  the 23rd  day  of  April 
next;  and  to be printed. 

^4. 

Mr.  Sloan,  supported  by  Mr.  Glendinning,  Registration 
Mr.  William  Redmond, Mr.  John  Ward,  Mr. 
Bill 
Charles Roberts,  and  Mr.  Mac Veugh, presented  Bill 25 
a  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  in  reference  to  the 
registration  of  Clubs  in  Ireland, and  for other 
purposes  connected  therewith :  And  the  same 
was ordered  to be read a second time upon Friday 
the  19th day  of  March next;  and  to  be printed. 

Mr.  Sloan,  supported  by  Mr.  Mac Veagh,  Mr.  Handloom 
Glendinning,  Mr.  Parker, and  Mr. Boland, pre- Weaving  Bill, 
sented a Bill to protect the interests of Handloom  Bill 26. 
Weavers, and  for  other  purposes  in  connection 
therewith :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be 
read  a second time upon Friday  the  19th day of 
March next;  and to be printed. 

Sunday 
Closing 
(Wales)  Act 
(1881)
Amendment 
Bill. 

Bill  18. 

Bishopric of 
Sheffield Bill. 
Bill  19. 

Sir Herbert Roberts, supported  by  Sir  Alfred 
Thomas, Mr.  William Jones, Mr.  Ellis  Davies, 
Mr. Robinson,  Sir Ivor  Herbert, and Mr.  Thomasthe Law with regard  to stolen Precious  Metals:  ^ ^ B i i  i 
^  J 
Richards, presented  a Bill to amend the  Sunday 
Closing  (Wales)  Act,  1881, and to make further 
provision for  the  Sale  of  Intoxicating  Liquors 
in  Wales  and  Monmouthshire:  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Friday  the 26th  day of  March  next;  and to  be 
printed. 

And  the same was ordered  to  be read  a second 
time upon  Friday  the 26th day  of  March  next; 
and to be printed. 

Mr.  Samuel Roberts  presented  a Bill to  amend  Stolen 

1 

Sir George M'Crae, supported by Mr. Younger,  Police  Super-
Mr.  Cameron  Corbett,  Mr.  Barnes, Mr.  Charles  annuation 
Price,  Mr.  Mitchell-Thomson,  Mr.  Gulland,  and  (^cotland) 
Mr.  Dundas  White, presented  a  Bill  to  amend 
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the Police  (Scotland)  Act,  1890:  And  the same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Friday next;  and to  be printed. 

Mr.  Stuart-Wort ley, supported by  Sir William 
Holland,  Mr.  Charles  Nicholson,  Mr,  Samuel 
Roberts,  Mr.  Walters,  and  Mr.  Walton,  pre­
sented  a Bill  to provide  for  the  foundation  of 
a Bishopric  of  Sheffield, and  for  other  matters 
incidental  thereto :  And  the  same was  ordered 
to be  read  a  second  time  upon  Friday  the 7th 
day of  May  next;  and to be  printed. 

Licensing
Justices Bill,
Bill 20.

Mr. Higham, supported  by  Mr.  Arnold  Her­
bert, Sir Luhe  White, Mr.  Baker,  and  Mr. Holt,
  presented  a Bill  to  assimilate  the  Law  as  to 
the  privilege  of  Licensing  Justices  with  that 
applicable  to  Justices  sitting  in  courts  of  sum­
mary  jurisdiction:  And  the  same  was  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time upon Friday  the  12 th 
day  of  March next;  and to  be printed. 

Sir  John  Jardine,  supported  by  Mr.  Barnes,  Salmon, 

Tweed 

Mr. Gulland, Mr. John Deans Hope, Mr. Laidlaw, 
Mr.  Lamont,  Mr.  Murray  Macdonald,  Mr. Faeries  Bill. 
Menzies,  Mr.  Molteno,  Captain  Murray,  Mr,  BUI 29. 
Eugene  Wason, and  Mr.  Waring,  presented  a 
Bill  to  consolidate  and  amend  the Acts  for  the 
more  effectual  preservation  and  increase  of 
Salmon  and  Trout,  and  for  regulating  and 
improving  the  Fisheries  in  the  River  Tweed 
and  the  rivers  and  streams  running  into  the 
same,  and  also  within  the  mouth  or  entrance 
of the said river, and for other purposes relating 
thereto :  And  the  same was ordered  to  be read 
a second  time  upon  Thursday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

,Sir  Charles  Dilke,  supported  by  Mr.  Bell,

Franchise and 
Mr. Keir  Hardie, Mr. 

Women'^ °f 
Disabilitiesi  Hodge, Mr.  Chiozza Money,  Mr.  Robert Pearce, 
Bill. 

M r '  B e n" e t t>  M r - 

Bill 21.  Wilson,  presented  a  Bill  to  establish  a  single 
Franchise at all Elections, and thereby to abolish 
university  representation  and  to  remove  the 
Disabilities  of  Women":  And  the  same  was 
ordered to  be read a  second  time  upon  Friday 
the  19th day of  March next;  and  to be printed. 

, 
Mr.  Shackleton,  Mr.  Sheehan, and Mr. Whitwellning,  Mr.  Dickinson, Lord  Robert  Cecil,  Mr.  g^caHon 
John  Robertson,  Mr.  Cameron  Corbett,  Mr. (England  and 
Thomas Frederick  Richards, Mr. Arthur  Hender-  Wales)  Bin. 
son,  Mr.  Adkins,  Mr.  Charles  Roberts,  Mr.  Bill 30. 
Straus,  and  Mr.  Dunn,  presented  a  Bill  to 
extend  the  qualification  for  being  elected  on 
County and  Borough  Councils:  And  the  same 
D  2  +­

Dr.  Shipman,  supported  by Sir Francis  Chan-  Local 

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was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Friday  the  7th  day  of  May  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Access to 
Mountains 

(Scotland)

Bill 31.

Mr.  Annan  Bryce,  supported  by  Sir  John 
Dewar,  Mr.  Sutherland,  Mr.  Gulland,  Mr. John 
Henderson,  Mr. Barnes, Mr. Dundas White, and 
  Mr.  Wilkie,  presented  a  Bill  to  secure  to  the 
public  the  right  of  access  to  Mountains  and 
Moorlands  in  Scotland  :  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Friday 
the 7th day of  May  next;  and to  be printed. 

Merchant
Shipping
lighthouses)
Bill 32

Mr.  M'Arthur,  supported  by  Mr.  Evelyn
Cecil, Sir  George Doughty, Mr.  T.  P.  O'Connor, 
Mi-.  Houston,  and  Mr.  Renwick, pre­
M r > 
sented a Bill  to amend  the Law  with regard  to 
Lighthouses  and  to  abolish  Light  Dues:  And 
the  same was  ordered  to  be read  a second  time 
upon  Friday  the 28th day  of  May  next;  and  to 
be printed. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
King's  Speech
Address.) °r an  t he  a d i ° u r n e d  Debate on the Amendment which, 
upon  the  18th  day  of  this  instant  February, 
was  proposed to be  made to  the  Main  Question 
proposed  upon  the  16th  day  of  this  instant 
February, That  an humble Address be presented 
to His  Majesty,  as followeth : 

[No.  5.] 

Monday, 22nd February  1909. 
The  House  met at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of the  clock. 

P  R A T E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private Bills 

from one of the  Examiners of Petitions for  (Standing 
Private  Bills, That in the case of  the  following ^vTousiy 
Bills, referred  on the First Reading  thereof, the inquired  into 
Standing  Orders not  previously  inquired  into,  complied 
and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have  beenW1 
complied  with,  viz.:— 

Ards Railways  Bill.  

Collooney,  Ballina, and Belmullet  Railways  


and Piers  Bill.  


Newry, Keady, and  Tynan  Railway  Bill.  


Aldershofc Gas and Water  Bill.  

Preston,  Chorley, and  Horwich  Tramways  


Bill. 


York  Town  and  Blackwater  Gas  (Electric  


Lighting,  &c.)  Bill.  


Ordered, That  the Bills be read  a second time."  


Most  Gracious  Sovereign, 

We,  Your  Majesty's  most  dutiful  and loyal 
subjects,  the  Commons of  the United  Kingdom 
of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  in  Parliament 
assembled, beg  leave to offer our humble thanks 
to Your  Majesty  for the  Gracious Speech  which 
Your  Majesty  has  addressed  to both  Houses  of 
Parliament—(Mr.  Rogers)',

Fiscal Reform.  Which  Amendment  was,  at  the  end  of  the 

Question to  add  the words "  But  humbly  repre­
sent  to  Your  Majesty  that  this  House  views 
with  anxiety  the state  of  trade  and employment 
in this country, and the failure of Your  Majesty's 
Ministers  to  recognise  the  nature  and  gravity 
of  the  situation,  and  regrets  that  there  is  no 
mention  in Your  Majesty's  Gracious  Speech  of 
any  proposals  for  enlarging  the  market  for 
British  and  Irish  produce  and  increasing  the 
demand  for  labour  by  a  reform  of  our  fiscal 
system,  which  would  promote  the  growth  and 
stability  of  our  home  trade, provide  means  for 
negotiating  for the mitigation  of  foreign tariffs, 
and  develop  our  oversea  trade,  through  the 
establishment  of  a  system of  mutual  preference 
between the different portions of  the  Empire  "— 
(Mr. Austen  Chamberlain)  ; 

And the  Question  being  again proposed, That 
those  words  be  there  added:  —  The  House 
resumed the  said adjourned  Debate. 

And  the Question  being  put; 
The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left., 
TM^Urih^^ 
Y  as 
' 

H o o d>

^
[Viscount  Valentia  : 

Alexander  Acland­

' 

Tellers for the j Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
{Master  of Elibank: 

Noes, 

i  107. 
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\  „_„ 

J 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 
And the Main Question being  again proposed: 

—And  a Debate arising thereupon ; 

And  it  being  after  Five  of  the  clock,  the 

Debate  stood  adjourned. 

Ordered,  That  the Debate  be  resumed  upon 

Monday  next. 

Adjournment.

Resolved,  That this  House  do now adjourn  till 

Monday  next.—(Mr. Joseph Pease.) 

And  then  the  House,  having continued  to 
sit  till  nine  minutes  after  Five  of  the 
dock,  adjourned till  Monday next. 

Mr,  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Railway, &c. 

Command,—Copy  of  Report  by  the  Board  of  Bills-
Trade  upon all the Bills  and  Provisional  Orders 
of  Session  1909  relating  to  Railways,  Canals, 
Tramways,  Harbours,  and  Tidal  Waters,  and 
the supply  of  Electricity,  Gas, and  Water. 

Mr,  Churchill  also  presented,—Return  to  an Trade and 
Order,  dated  the  18th  day  of  this 
i n s t a nt   Navigation. 
February,  for  a  Return  relative  to  Trade  and  No. 35. 
Navigation. 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers do lie upon the 

Table  ;  and that the said  Return be printed, 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His  Mines and 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  to  the ^ccHent at 
Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department,  th<Ti>aibeath 
by  R.  A.  S.  Redmayne,  His  Majesty's  Chief  Colliery, 
Inspector  of  Mines, on  the  causes and  circum- ^ifesllire-) 
stances  of  the  Accident  which  occurred  at  the 
Dalbeath  Colliery,  Fifeshire,  on 
the  14th 
November  1907. 

Copy  of  Preliminary  Tables  of  Cases  of  Factory and 
Industrial  Poisoning,  Fatal  and  N on - fatal  Workshop Act, 
Accidents,  and Dangerous  Occurrences  in  Fac-  Notice of 
tories, Workshops,  &c.  under  the  Factory  and Accidents  Act, 
Workshop Act,  1901, and  Notice  of  Accidents  1906­
AcJ,  1906, during the year  1908. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  also  presented,  pur-Factory and 

suant  to  the  directions  of  several  Acts  of Workshop^ 
Parliament,—Copy  of  Schemes  for  the  regula- Begu1ation0of 
tion  of  Hours  of  Employment,  Intervals,  and  Hours of 
Holidays  of  Workers,  and  of  the Education  of Employment, 
Children,  in  Charitable  Institutions,  approved  charitable 
by  the  Secretary  of  State  in  pursuance  of  the  Institutions.) 
powers  conferred  on  him  by  the  Factory  and 
Workshop Act,  1907. 

Copies of  Orders made by  the Council  of  the  Polling 
County  of  Middlesex,  altering  certain  Polling  Districts 
Districts  in the Enfield, Brentford, and  Harrow  Sie^xJ) 
Parliamentary  Divisions. 

Ordered,  That the said  Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Burns  presented,—Return  to  an  Order,  Pauperism 
dated the  19th day  of  this instant  February, for  (England  and 
a  Return  relative  to  Pauperism  (England  and (M0nth]y-
Wales)  (Monthly  Statements). 

Ordered,  That  the said Return do lie upon the 

Statements.) 
, No. 36. 

Table;  and  be printed. 

 
 
 
 
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22 ud  February. 

Bast  India

Mr.  Buchanan  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 

Labour^
Commission,
1908.)

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904. 

Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Indian 
  Factory  Labour  Commission, 1908.  Volume  II., 

Evidence. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to 
the directions  of  an  Act   of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Order  made  by  the  Secretary  for  Scotland 
under  the  Shop  Hours  Act,  1904, providing  for 
the  early  closing  of  certain  classes of  Shops  in 
the  Burgh  of  Broughty  Ferry. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.Sydney Buxton presented, by His  Majesty's 
Telegraph and
Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  Departmental 
Accent®6
(Departmental  Committee  appointed to  inquire  into  Telegraph 
Committee.)

  and Telephone  Accounts,  with  Appendices. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Inquiry  into
Charities
Borough  of
Exeter.)

The  following  Paper  was laid upon the  Table 
b y  the  Clerk  of  the  House :—Return  to  an 
  Order,  dated  the  9th  day of  December  in  the 

21 
and  under  350,000;  350,000 and  under  400,000; 
400,000  and  under 450,000 ;  450,000  and  under 
500,000 ;  500,000  and  under  600,000 ;  600,000 
and  under  700,000;  700,000  and under 800,000 ; 
800,000 and  under 900,000 ;  900,000  and  under 
1,000,000  and  under  1,500,000, 
1,000,000; 
1,500,000  and  under  2,000,000;  2,000,000 
barrels  and  over;  showing  separately,  in  each 
class, the quantities of malt, unmalted  corn,  rice, 
&c.,  sugar,  including  its  equivalent  of  syrups, 
&c., hops and hop substitutes  used;  and  stating 
also  the  number  of  bulk  barrels  of  beer  pro­
duced,  and  the  amount  of  Licence  Duty  paid 
and  Beer  Duty  charged,  in  each  class : 
-And 
of  the number of  barrels of  beer  exported from 
the  United  Kingdom,  and  the  declared  value 
thereof, and where  exported  to, from the  1st day 
of  October  1907  to  the  30th  day  of  September 
1908, distinguishing  England, Scotland* and  Ire­
land  (in  continuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper, 
No.  32 of  Session  1908).—(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

last  Session  of  Parliament,  for  Returns  com­
prising  (1)  the  Reports  made  to  the  Charity 
Commissioners  in  the result  of  an  Inquiry  held 
in  the  County  Borough  of  Exeter  into  Endow­
ments subject to  the provisions of  the  Charitable 
Trusts  Acts,  ] 853  to  1894, and  appropriated  in 
whole or  in part  for  the  benefit of  that  county 
borough,  or  of  any part  thereof,  together  with 
the Reports  on  those  Endowments  of  the  Com­
missioners  for  inquiring  concerning  Charities, 
1818  to  1837;  (2)  a  Digest  showing  whether 
any,  and,  if  any,  what  such  Endowments  are 
recorded  in  the books  of  the  Charity  Commis­
sioners  in  the  county  borough;  and  (3)  an 
Index,  alphabetically  arranged,  of  names  and 
places mentioned  in the  Reports. 

Ordered, That  there be laid before  this House 
a  Return  of  Accounts  of  the  number of  persons 
in  each of  the several  Collections  of  the  United 
Kingdom  licensed  as  Brewers  for sale, i.e.,  Com­
mon  Brewers,  Victuallers,  Retailers of  beer  to 
be drunk  on the premises, Retailers  of  beer  not 
to  be  drunk  on  the  premises,  and  Brewers  of 
beer  not  for  sale*  particularising  each  class  in 
each Collection ;  and of  the number  of  Licences 
issued to  Victuallers  and  Retailers  of  beer to  be 
drunk  on  the premises  and  not  to  be drunk on 
the  premises;  and  stating  also the quantities  of 
malt, unmalted  corn,  rice, &c., sugar,  including 
its  equivalent  of  syrups,  &c.,  hops  and  hop 
substitutes,  used  by  Brewers  of  beer  for  sale, 
and of  malt and  sugar  used by  Brewers  not  for 
sale, from  the  1st  day  of  October  1907 to  the 
30th day. of  September  1908 : 
Of  the amount 
of  Licence  Duty  paid and  Beer  Duty  charged 
from  the  1st  day  of  October  1907  to  the  30th 
day  of  September  1908, distinguishing  Brewers 
for  sale from other Brewers:  
Of  the  number 
of Brewers for sale (i.)  who use malt and hops, or 
hop substitutes only,  and (ii.) who use malt with 
substitutes  for  same,  and  hops  or  hop  substi­
tutes, paying for  Licences,  from  the  1 st day  of 
October  1907  to  the  30th  day  of  September 
1908,  separating  them  into  classes,  according 
to  the  number  of  barrels  of  beer  charged 
with  duty  calculated  at  10:55  degrees  gravity, 
viz. :  under  1,000  barrels;  1,000  and  under 
10,000;  10,000  and  under  20,000;  20,000 and 
under 30,000;  30,000 and under 50,000 ;  50,000 
and under  100,000.;  100,000 and under  150,000; 
150,000 and under  200,000;  200,000  and  under 
250,000;  250,000  and  under  300,000;  300,000 

VOL.  164. 

Ordered, That  there  be  laid before this House  Supreme 

a  Copy  of  Account  of  Receipts  and  Payments 
of  the  Accountant  General  of  the  Supreme  (Ireland.) 
Court  of  Judicature  in  Ireland  in  respect  of 
funds  of  suitors  in  the  said  Court,  including 
therein funds  to  the  credit  of  lunacy  accounts, 
in  the year to the  30th day  of  September  1908  ; 
together  with  a  Statement  of  Liabilities  and 
Assets  and  particulars  of  Securities  in  Court 
on  the  30th  day  of  September  1908.—(Mr. 
Hobhouse.) 

Ordered, That  there be  laid  before this  House  Ardrossan  and 

a  Copy  of  Contract  recently  made between  the  Belfast Mail 
Postmaster  General  and  Messieurs  G.  and  J.
Burns,  Limited,  for  the  conveyance of  Mails 
between  Glasgow,  Ardrossan,  and  Belfast, 
together  with  a  Copy  of  the  Treasury  Minute 
thereon,  dated  the  10th day  of  February  1909. 
—(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

ervico-

Ordered, That the  Examiners of  Petitions  for  Salmon, 
Private  Bills  do  examine  the  Salmon,  Trout,  Trout, and 
and River  Tweed  Fisheries  Bill,  with respect  to  FiJheriesBill. 
compliance  with the  Standing  Orders  relative to 
Private  Bills. 

Sir  Frederick  Banbury,  supported  by  Sir  Dogs' 

Francis  Channing,  Mr.  Ellis  Griffith, Mr.  Swift Protection 
MacNeill, and  Sir Henry  Cotton,  presented a Bill  J  gjjj gg 
to  prohibit  experiments  upon  Dogs:  And  the 
same was ordered to be  read  a second  time  upon 
Friday  the  14th  day  of  May  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Mr.  Claude  Hay,  supported  by  Mr.  Leverton  Hops  Bill. 
Harris,  presented  a  Bill  to  prohibit  the  use of  Bill 34, 
Hop  substitutes in brewing  and the  importation 
of  Hops  except  in  bags properly  marked  :  And 
the  same  was  ordered  to  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  16th day of  March  next;  and 
to  be  printed. 

Mr. Arnold Herbert,  supported  by  Mr.  Mac-  Maintenance 
lean, Mr.  Arthur  Henderson, Mr. Lehmann,  and  Provision  Bill 
Mr.  Molteno,  presented  a  Bill  to  make  better 
provision  for  the  maintenance  of  Children  and 
others, and for other  purposes  relating  thereto : 
And  the same was  ordered  to  be  read a second 
time upon  Friday  the  12th day  of  March  next; 
and  to  be  printed. 

Mr.  Adhins,  supported  by  Sir  Luke  White, Local 
Mr.  Whitbread, Mr.  William  Lever,  Mr.  Court- Authorities 
hope,  Mr.  Man field,  Mr.  Scott,  Mr.  James ^ITnses) 
Duncan,  Mr.  Harmood-Banner,  and  Viseount Bin. 
Morpeth, presented  a Bill  to  enable Local Autho-  Bill 36. 
rities  to  contribute  towards the expenses of  legal 
D  3 

Brewers'
Licences.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
22 nd February, 

1909. 

[No. 5. 

proceedings and Private and other Bills involving 
questions  of  common  interest  And  the  same 
was ordered to be read a second time upon Friday 
the 23rd day of April  next;  and to be printed. 

Criminal Law
(irelSid)Actf
1887 (Repeal)
Bill. 

Bill 37 

  Mr. Francis Meehan, supported by Mr. Burke, 
M r  - CuUinan,  Mr.  Farrell,  Captain  Donelan,
  Mr. Hayden,  and Mr. Joseph Devlin, presented a 
BiU  to  provide  for  the  repeal  of  the  Criminal 
Law  and  Procedure  (Ireland)  Act,  1887 :  And 
the  same was ordered  to  be  read  a second  time 
upon Friday  the  30th  day  of  April  next;  and 
to be printed. 

-Remission  of
(DubllnflJill.
Bill  38

  Mr. Nannetti, supported  by  Mr. Harrington, 
M r '  F i e M  >  and  Mr.  Waldron,  presented a Bill  to 
discharge  certain  Surcharges  made  upon  the 
.Accounts  of  the  Municipal  Corporation  of 
Dublin:  And the same was ordered  to  be rea<I a 
second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right;  

The  Noes to the  Left. 

Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

(Master  of  Elibank : 


Tellers for the] Mr.  Samuel Roberts, 


Noes, 

IMr.  George Gibbs: 

284. 

73. 

So it was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 
And  the  Question  being  accordingly  put, 
That  the  words  proposed  to  be  left  out  stand 
part of  the said proposed  Amendment; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the Right  ; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the J Mr. Ponsonby,

Yeas, 
' 
m  „ 
Tellers for the 

(Mr.  Lehmann : 

(Mr.  Frederick  Edwin  )/

S m i ( ^ 

282. 

71. 

King's Speech
Address y°ran

  The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
adjourned  Debate  on  the  Main  Question 
proposed  upon  the  16th  day  of  this  instant 
February, That an humble Address  be presented 
to His  Majesty,  as followeth,: 

House of 
Lords. 

Most Gracious  Sovereign, 

We, Your  Majesty's  most  dutiful  .and  loyal 
subjects, the  Commons of  the  United  Kingdom 
of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  in  Parliament 
assembled, beg  leave to offer our  humble thanks 
to  Your  Majesty for  the Gracious  Speech  which 
Your  Majesty  has  addressed  to  both Houses of 
Parliament—-(Mr.  Rogers) ; 

And  the  Main  Question  being  again  pro­
posed:—The  House  resumed  the said adjourned 
Debate. 

' 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Question,  by  adding  at  the  end  thereof 
the words "  And further, desire humbly to submit 
that  the  repeated  rejection  by  the  House  of 
Lords  of  measures  of  capital importance, which 
have been passed in this House by overwhelming 
majorities, has made it imperative  that proposals 
should be  embodied in a Bill for the consideration 
of  Parliament  this  Session  for  regulating  the 
relations  of  the  two  Houses  of  Parliament  in 
accordance  with the Resolution  of  this House  of 
26th June  1907, declaring  that  in  order  to  give 
effect  to  the  will  of  the people,  as expressed  by 
their  elected representatives, it is necessary that 
the  power  of  the  other  House  to alter or reject 
Bills passed by this House should be so restricted 
by  Law  as  to  secure  that  within  the  limits  of 
a  single  Parliament  the  final  decision  of  the 
Commons shall prevail."—(Mr.  Ponsonhy.) 

N o e s, 

[ M , ..   Goulding : 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Whereupon the Prime  Minister  claimed,  That 
the  Question  on  the  Amendment  to  the  Main 
.Question  be now  put. 

And  the  Question  being  accordingly  put,  Question 

.

I 

-. 

...  . 

..  J 

That the  words "  And further, desire humbly  to 
submit that the repeated  rejection  by  the  House  to Main 
of Lords of measures of capital importance, which  Question put 
have  been passed in this  House  by overwhelminsr
to 
S.O. Closure 
majorities, has made it imperative that proposals  0
f  Debate.) 
should be embodied in a Bill for the consideration 
of  Parliament  this  Session  for  regulating  the 
relations  of  the  two  Houses  of  Parliament  in 
accordance  with the Resolution  of  this House  of 
26th June  1907, declaring  that  in  order to give 
effect to  the  will of  the  people,  as  expressed  by 
their elected representatives, it  is  necessary that 
the power  of  the  other  House  to  alter  or reject 
Bills passed by this House should be so restricted 
by Law  as  to  secure  that  within  the  limits  of 
a  single  Parliament  the  final  decision  of  the 
Commons shall prevail "  be there  added ; 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas to  the  Right  ;  

The  Noes to  the  Left.  

Tellers for the (Mr.  Ponsonby,


Yeas, 

(_Mr. Lehmann  :  


Tellers for  the) Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

V Master of Elibank i 


1225. 

So it  passed  in the  Negative.  

And  the  Main  Question  being  again  pro­

posed  :—And  a Debate  arising  thereupon; 

And  it  being  after  Eleven  of  the  clock,  the 

Debate stood adjourned. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

And  the Question being  proposed, That those 

morrow. 

words be there  added; 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made to 
the said proposed Amendment, in  1. .3, by leaving 
out  from  the  word  "  imperative "  to  the  end 
thereof, and adding the words  "  in  the  interests 
of  stable  government, to decide  forthwith by  an 
appeal  to  the  constituencies  which  of  the  two 
Houses  of  Parliament  enjoys  the  confidence  of 
a  majority  of  the  electors"—(Mr.  Frederick 
Edwin Smith),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed  to be  left  out  stand  part  of  the 
said  proposed  Amendment:  —  And  a  Debate 
arising  thereupon ; 

The  Prime  Minister  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed to move, That the  Question  be now put. 
And the  Question being  put,  That the  Ques­

tionbe  now put; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan- Town 
Planning, &c. 
ning, &c.  Bill; 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament 
Bill.; 

BlU" 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of  the  

clock, Mr.  Speaker adjourned  the  House  

without  Question  put,  pursuaut  to  the  

Standing  Order, it  being  then twenty-six 

minutes  before  Twelve  of  the  clock,  till  

to-morrow. 


Question put 

of  Debate.) 

 
 
 
 
No. 6.1  9  E  d w.   YI1.  	

23rd  February. 

[No.  6.] 

Tuesday, 23rd February  1909. 
The House  met at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three of the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

HE  Bury  Corporation  Bill  was  read  a

T second time, and committed. 

The  Cardiff  Corporation  Bill  was  read  a 

second  time, and committed. 

The  City  of  London  (Street  Traffic) Bill was 

read a second time, and committed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Derwent  Valley  Water 

Board  Bill   be  read  a  second  time  to-morrow. 

Bury 
Corporation 
Bill. 

Cardiff 
Corporation 
Bill. 

City  of  

London 

(Street Traffic) 

Bill. 


Derwent 

Valley Water  

Board  Bill.  


Ordered,  That  the  Glamorgan  Water  Board 

Bill  be read a second time  to-morrow. 

The  Greenock  Corporation  Bill  was  read a 

second time, and  committed. 

The  Hastings Harbour  Bill  was read a second 

time, and committed. 

Ordered, That  the  London  County  Council 
(General  Powers)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the  Northallerton  Water  Bill 

be read a second time to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the  Oldham  Corporation  Bill 

Table, 

be read a second time to-morrow, 

The  Swinton  and  Mexborough  Gas  Board 

Bill  was read a second time, and committed. 

The  Thames  Tunnel  (North  and  South 
Woolwich)  Bill  was  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed. 

The  Wallasey  Tramways  and  Improvements 

Bill  was read a second time, and committed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Wandsworth  Borough 
Council  (Superannuation)  Bill  be read a second 
time to-morrow. 

Waterford 

Harbour Bill. 


Ordered, That  the  Waterford  Harbour  Bill 

be read  a second time  to-morrow. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to  lie upon the  Table. 

Ordered,  That the Return  relative  to  Inquiry 
into  Charities  (County  Borough  of  Exeter), 
which  was  presented  Upcn the  22nd day of this 
instant February, be printed. 

Mr.  Buchanan  presented, — Return  to  an 
Address  to  His  Majesty, dated  the  24th  day  of 
June 
in  the  last  Session  of  Parliament,— 
for  Returns  in  respect  of  each  Cantonment  or 
other  place  where  Soldiers  are  stationed  in 
India, showing— 

(1)  Whether	  there  is  a  hospital  to  which 
women  suffering  from  venereal  disease  are 
admitted,  and  whether  such  hospital  has 
been maintained  continuously during recent 
yeSrs; 
VO L.  164. 

(2)  In	  the  event  of  there  being no hospital,  

whether  women  suspected of or  found  to- be 

suffering  from  venereal disease are, or have 

been during recent years, turned  out of the 

cantonment; 


(3)  Whether, at any time during  recent years, 

women have been  periodically  examined by 

the  army  medical  officers,  or  by  native  

hospital assistants,  or by  any other  persons,  

acting  under  official  sanction;  if  not,  in  

what  way  is  it  ascertained  that  they  are  

suffering from venereal disease ; 


(4)  Whether	  such  examinations  are, or have 

been,  in  effect  made  compulsory  by  the  

threat of expulsion from  the  cantonment if 

the women do not voluntarily attend for the 

purpose when required  to do  so ; 


(5)  How many  women have  been  turned  out  

of  the  cantonment  under  the  powers  of 
expulsion  possessed  by  the  cantonment 
authorities,  and  how  many of  such  expul­
sions have been in connection  with venereal  

disease, and how many for  other diseases ; 

(6)  Whether	  any  kind  of  passes  or  tickets  

are,  or  have  been,  granted  to  women  (a)  

permitting  them  to  reside  in  the  canton­
ment,  or  (b)  recording  their  attendance  at  

medical  examinations.  


Ordered,  That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be  printed, 

Mr. Birrell presented,  pursuant  to  the direc-  Committals 

tions of  ah Act of Parliament,—Copy  of  Returns  (Ireland.) 
from  the  Clerks  of  the  Crown  and  Peaee  in 
Ireland  of the number of  persons  committed  for 
Trial  in the year  1908. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper do lie upon the 

Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return to ah Order, Ardrossan and 

dated  the 22nd day  of  this instant February, for 
a Return relative to Ardrossan  and Belfast  Mailk
Service. 

Mail 

y
.No.  39. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  22nd  day of  Supreme 
this  instant  February, for a  Return  relative  t o  Court of 
the  Supreme  Court of Judicature  (Ireland). 

Judicature 
(Ireland.) 

No.  40. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  22nd day of  Brewers' 
Licences. 

this  instant  February,  for  Returns  relative 
. 
Brewers'Licences. 

, 

No.  41. 

Ordered, That the said  Returns do lie upon the 

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Trade Reports 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  (Miscellaneous 
and  Consular  Reports,  Miscellaneous  Series,Series-) 
No. 675. 

Ordered,  That  the  said Paper do lie upon the 

Table. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His  Board  of 
Majesty's  Command, — Copy  of  Agricultural  Agriculture 
Statistics,  1908.  Volume  XL1II.  Part  I., a nd  Fisheriet 
Acreage and  Live  Stock  Returns  of  Great  Bri­
tain, with  Summaries for the  United  Kingdom. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie  uoon the 

Table. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's straits 
Command,—Copy  of  Proceedings  of  the  Com- Settlements, 
mission  appointed  to inquire into matters relating 
to  the use  of  Opium  in the  Straits  Settlements 
and  the  Federated  Malay  States.  Volume  I., 
Report  and Appendices.  Volume  III.,  Analysis 
of Evidence,  Appendices,  and  Subject  Index. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

d 4 

Glamorgan 

Water  Board  

Bill. 


Greenock 

Corporation 

Bill. 


Hastings 

Harbour  Bill.  


Iiondon 

County 

Council 

(General 

Powers)  Bill.  


Northallerton 

'Water  Bill.  


Oldham 

Corporation 

Bill. 


Swinton and 

Mexborough 

Gas Board 

Bill. 


Thames 

Tunnel  (North  

and South  

Woolwich) 

Bill. 

Wallasey 

Tramways and 

' Improvements 

Bill. 

Wandsworth 

Borough 

Council 

(Superannua­
tion)  Bill.  


Public 

Petitions. 

Vide First  

Report. 

Inquiry  into  

Charities  "  

(County 

Borough  of  

Exeter.) 


No.  37. 

East India 
(Contagious 
" 

3.) 
No.  38. 





24 

11th—18th  February. 

1909. 

[No. at 

The following  Papers, pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,  were 
laid  upon  the  Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the 
House :— 

Copy  of  all  Applications  made  by  the  First 
Lord  of  the Treasury  and the  Chancellor  of the 
Exchequer  to  the  Governor and Deputy  Gover­
nor  of  the  Bank of  England  for  Advances  to 
Government  authorised  by  Parliament,  from 
5th January  1908  to 5th January  1909. 

Copy  of  Abstract  of  the  General  Annual 
Account  of  the  Bridlington  Piers and  Harbour 
for the year  ending  26th  July  1908. 
Copy  of  the  County  Court 

(Agricultural 

Holdings)  Eules,  1909. 

Bank of 
England. 

No.  42. 

Bridlington 
Piers and 
Harbour. 

County  Court 
(Rules.) 

Ordered., That the Paper relative  to the  Bank 

of  England  be printed. 

Remission  of
Surcharges
(Dublin)  Bill.  Surcharges  (Dublin)  Bill, with respect  to  com­

Ordered,  That the  Examiners  of Petitions for 
Private  Bills  do  examine  the  Remission  of 

Edinburgh 
Burgh  (South 
Division) 
Writ. 

pliance  with  the  Standing  Orders  relative  to 
Private  Bills. 

Ordered, That  Mr.  Speaker  do issue his  War­
rant to the  Clerk  of  the Crown,  to  make  out a 
new Writ for the electing of a Member to serve 
in  this  present  Parliament  for  the  Burgh  of 
Edinburgh  (South  Division),  in  the  room  of 
Arthur  Dewar,  Esquire,  K.c.,  who,  since  his 
Election  for  the  said  burgh, hath accepted the 
Office  of  His  Majesty's  Solicitor  General  for 
Scotland.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Salmon, 
Trout, and 
River  Tweed 
Fisheries  Bill. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time, upon 
Thursday  next,  the  Salmon,  Trout,  and  River 
Tweed  Fisheries  Bill  was read  and discharged. 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

and  Mr.  Cave, presented  a  Bill  to  declare  the 
Law relating  to  the  duties  of Trustees  to keep 
and  furnish  Accounts  of  their  trust  property  : 
And  the same was ordered  to  be  read a second 
time upon Tuesday  the 9th day of  March  next; 
and to  be printed. 

Mr.  Hodge,  supported  by  Ml-.  Macpherson,  Compulsory 
Mr.  George Roberts,  Mr. Arthur Henderson,  Mr.  Weighing and 
William  Thome,  Mr.  Clynes, Mr.  Glover,  Mr.  Measurement 
Parker, Mr. John Taylor,  and  Mr.  Wardle, pre-  gill 44. 
sented  a  Bill  to  provide  for  the  weighing and 
measurement  of  the  Material used  in the process 
of manufacture,  as  well  as  the product  thereof, 
in  all  iron  or  steel works, cement  works,  lime 
works,  and  chalk  quarries:  And  the same was 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time upon Friday 
the 28th  day of  May  next;  and  to be printed. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming  King's  Speech 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Main  Question^oMonforan 
proposed  upon  the  16th  day  of  this  instant 
February, Thatan humble Address  be presented 
to  His  Majesty, as followeth : 

Most  Gracious  Sovereign, 

We,  Your  Majesty's  most  dutiful  and  loyal 
subjects, the  Commons of  the  United  Kingdom 
of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  in  Parliament 
assembled, beg leave to offer  our humble thanks 
to Your  Majesty for the Gracious  Speech  which 
Your  Majesty  has addressed  to both  Houses  of 
Parliament—(Mr. Rogers)-, 

And  the  Main  Question  being  again  pro­
posed :—The  House resumed  the said adjourned 
Debate. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed to be made  Lawlessness in 

to  the  Question, by  adding  at  the  end  thereoflreland­
the  words  "  But  we  humbly  submit  that  the 
condition of large  portions  of  Ireland  is  deplor­

local
Authorities
Purcba^rd
Land)  Bill.

Bill  39. 

Mr.  Scott,  supported  by  Mr.  Alden,  Mr. 

Dobson,  Mr.  Hall, Dr.  Hazel, Mr.  Harwood,  Sir able, and  is  becoming  worse,  and  express  our 
  Maurice  Levy,  Mr.  Shackleton, Mr. Alexander  regret that Your  Majesty's  Ministers  are making 
Harvey, Mr.  Snowden,  Mr.  Wiles,  and Mr.  Win-no  effectual  efforts  to  restore  the  authority  of 
frey-> presented a Bill  to provide  for the  taxation 
the Law,  or  to protect  the  elementary  rights  of 
and  purchase  of  Land  by  Local  Authorities  : 
Your  Majesty's subjects."—(Earl  Percy.) 
And  the  same  was ordered  to  be read a second 
time  upon  Wednesday  the  10th  day of  March 
next;  and to be  printed. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That those 
words  be  there  added:—And  a Debate arising 
thereupon; 

Vehicular 
Traffic 
(Regulation of 
Speed) Bill. 
Bill 40. 

Workmen's 
Compensation 
Bill. 

Bill 41. 

Waste  Lands 
(Ireland) 
Improvement 
Bill. 

Bill 42. 

Mr. Bertram Straus, supported by Mr. Dickin­
son,  Sir  William  Collins,  Mr.  Steadman, Dr. 
Cooper,  Mr.  Crooks,  Sir  John  Brunner,  Mr. 
Gardner,  Mr.  Abel  Smith, Mr.  George  Hardy, 
Mr.  William.  Pearce,  and Mr.  Carr-Gomm,  pre-
sented a Bill  to secure the safety of  pedestrians, 
especially  Children,  in  public  thoroughfares  in 
populous places :  And  the  same  was ordered to 
be read a second time  upon  Tuesday  next;  and 
to be printed. 

Mr.  Hyde,  supported  by  Major  Dunne,  Mr. 
Cecil Harmsworth, Dr. Hazel,  Mr. Hooper, and 
Mr.  Stewart-Smith, presented  a  Bill  to  amend 
the Workmen's  Compensation  Act,  1906 :  And 
the  same  was  ordered  to  be read a second time 
upon Friday  the 5th day of  March next;  and to 
be printed. 

And  a  Motion being  made, and  the  Question 
being put, That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned 
—(Sir  Edward  Carson) :—It  was  resolved  in 
the Affirmative. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan-J?1™. 

. 

Planning,  So. 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

o 
ning, &c. Bill; 

u - i  i 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  £a.r.liament 
Bill;  

BllL 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered, That a Select Committee be appointed  Police  Forces 

Dr.  Ambrose,  supported  by  Mr.  Gwynn, Mr. 
William Redmond,  Mr.  Meagher,  Mr.  Lundon,
Mr. MacNeill, Mr.  Crean, Mr. John  Roche, Mr. 
Duffy,  Mr.  Mac Veagh,  Mr.  O'Malley, and  Mr. 
M-Hugh,  presented  a  Bill  to  enable  County 
Councils in Ireland  to acquire  and improve  and 
sell  or  let waste  Land, and  for  other  purposes 
relating  thereto  :  And  the same  was  ordered  to 
be  read a  second  time  upon  Tuesday  the 23rd 
day of  March  next;  and to  be printed. 

to inquire and report whether, having  regard  to 
the conditions  of  service  in the Police  Forces  in 
the United  Kingdom,  it  is  desirable  that  pro­
vision should be made, by legislation or otherwise, 
for  granting  to  every  constable  one full day off 
duty  in  seven ;  what,  if  any, alterations in  the 
conditions  of  service  and  police  administration 
should accompany  this  change;  what  would  be 
Mr.  Stewart-Smith,  supported by  Sir  Edward the cost;  and  how it should  be  borne  so  as not 

Trustees'
Accounts  Bill.  Carson,  Mr. Rufus Isaacs, Mr. Simon,  Mr. Hills,to increase the charge  on imperial funds. 

. 

" 

Bill 43. 

 
 
 
No.  6.]

  9  EDW.  YIL 

The  Committee  was  accordingly  nominated 

23rd—24:th February. 

25 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

of  Mr.  Armitage, Mr.  Ellis, Mr.  William  Edwin upon  Thursday  the 4th day  of  March  next. 
Harvey,  Mr.  Hedges,  Colonel  Lockwood,  Mr. 
Nannetti,  Mr.  William Priestley,  Mr.  Remnant,  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Glamorgan 
Mr.  Wiles, and Mr.  Guy Wilson. 

Second Reading of  the Glamorgan  Water  Board  ^  f  er Board 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Committee  have power to 

send for persons, papers, and records. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

Ordered, That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

upon  Thursday  the 4th day  of  March  next. 

Committee.—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

Publications 
and  Debates 
Reports. 

Ordered, That a Select Committee be appointed 
to  examine the Publications printed by  Order of 
this  House, or  presented  to  it  through  Public 
Departments, and  to  call  attention  to  any case 
in which unnecessary expense has been incurred; 
and  also  to  assist  Mr.  Speaker  in the  arrange­
ments for the  Official Report  of  Debates. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London 
Second  Reading  of  the London  County  Council  County 
(General  Powers)  Bill; 

gunci^ 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time lowers) Bin. 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Northallerton  Water  Bill  was, according  Northallerton 

to  Order, read a second time, and committed.  Water  Bill. 

The  Committee  was  accordingly  nominated 
of  Mr.  Arkwright, Mr. Bowerman, Mr.  Cleland,
Mr.  Harold  Cox,  Mr.  William Jones,  Mr.  Leh-
mann, Mr.  Maddison, Mr. Jeremiah  Mac Veagh,

Mr. Pike  Pease, Mr.  William  Redmond,  and  Mr.  Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second  time  

Toulmin, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Oldham 
Second  Reading  of  the  Oldham  Corporation  Corporation 
Bill; 

upon Monday  next. 

Bm" 

1 

Ordered, That  the  Committee have power to 

send for persons, papers, and records. 

Ordered, That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee.—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sir. till Eleven  of  the clock, adjourned  till 
to-morrow. 

[No.  7.] 

Wednesday, 24:th  February 1909. 
The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three of  the  clock. 

P R A TE  R   S. 

Private  Bills 
(Standing 
Orders not 
previously 
inquired  into 
complied 
with.) 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from one of the Examiners of  Petitions for 
! 'rivate  Bills, That  in the case of  the following 
'Jill,  referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, 
the  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired 
into, and which are applicable thereto, have been 
complied  with, viz.:— 

London  and North  Western  Railway  Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time. 

Ammanford
Gas Bill.

Conway  Gas
Bill.

Heywood
Corporation
Bill. 

Llanelly
Water  Bill.

The  Ammanford  Gas Bill  was read  a  second 

time, and committed. 

The  Conway  Gas  Bill  was  read  a  second 

time, and  committed. 

The  Heywood  Corporation  Bill  was  read  a 

gecond  time, and committed. 

The  Llanelly  Water  Bill  was  read  a  second 

t i m ej  a n  d  committed. 

Mountain Ash 
Urban  District  g j jj   w aa  r e a d  a  second time, and  committed. 
Council  Bill. 

The  Mountain  Ash  Urban  District  Council 

Prestatyn 
Urban  District  w ag  r e a (  j  a  s e c o  nd  time, and committed. 
Council  Bill.

The  Prestatyn  Urban  District  Council  Bill 

' 

Watford
Urban  District
Council Bill.

Derwent
Valley Water
Board Bill.

The  Watford  Urban  District  Council  Bill 
s  r e a (  j  a  seCond  time,  and committed. 

/ 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
g e c o n cl  Reading  of  the Derwent  Valley  Water 

B o a rd

 B m 

. 

VO L.  164. 

The  Wandsworth  Borough  Council  (Super-Wandsworth 

annuation) Bill  was, according  to  Order, read  a Borough 
second time, and committed.  ' 

(g™e rannna. 
c
tion)  Bill. 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Waterford 
Second  Reading  of  the  Waterford  Harbour  Harbour  Bill. 
Bill; 

-

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public 

read ;  and ordered to lie  upon the  Table. 

' 

•

r

Vide  First 
Report, 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the National  Debt 

directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—  j^fnks and 
(1)  An  Account  of  the  gross  amount  of  all J'riendly 
sums  received  and  paid  by  the  Commissioners  Societies.) 
for  the  Reduction  of  the  National  Debt  on  No. 43. 
account  of  Banks  for  Savings  and  Friendly 
Societies  in  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  from 
their  commencement  at  6th August  1817 to the 
20th  November  1908 : 
(2)  An  Account  of 
the several transactions which  have taken  place 
during the year ended 20th  November  1908,  in 
the  investment  of  all  moneys  which  came  into 
the hands of  the Commissioners  for  the  Reduc­
tion  of  the  National  Debt  for  Savings  Banks 
(3)  A  Statement 
and  Friendly  Societies  : 
showing the aggregate  amount  of  the liabilities 
of the  Government  to  the  trustees  of  Savings 
Banks  and  Friendly  Societies  respectively  on 
20th  November  1908, &c. 

An  Account  of the gross amount  of  all  Bank  National  Debt 

44. 

Annuities  and  any Annuities for terms  of  years Annuities-
transferred,  and  of  all  sums  of  money  paid, 
to  the  Commissioners  for  the  Reduction  of 
the  National  Debt;  and  the  gross  amount  of 
Annuities for lives and for terms of years which 
have  been  granted  for  the same, and contracts 
for  payments  on  death  which  have  been  made 
under the provisions  of  the National  Debt  Act, 
1829,  the  National  Debt  (Supplemental)  Act, 
1888,  the  Government  Annuities  Acts,  1864 
and  1882,  and  the  Savings  Banks  Act,  1887, 
within the  year ended 5th  January  1909. 

Account  of  the  moneys paid out of the  Con-  Greek  Loan, 
solidated  Fund  under  the Acts  2  & 3 Will. 4,  No. 45. 
c.  121, and 6 & 7 Will. 4, c. 94, for  interest and 
sinking  fund  on  that part  of  the  Greet  Loan 
which  is  guaranteed  by this  country under  the 
authority  of  the  said  Acts,  and  of  the amount 
repaid  by  the Greek  Government  on account  of 
the same, up to 31st December  1908, 

E   + ­

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
24th February. 

Superannua­
tions'

Treaty  Series
(No. 2,1909.)

Treaty  Series
(No. 3,1909.)

Copy  of  Treasury  Minute  under  the  Super­
annuation  Act,  1859, dated 20th February  1909, 
declaring that for the due and efficient discharge 
of  the  duties  of  the  Office  of Assistant  Under 
Secretary  for  Scotland  professional  or  other 
peculiar  qualifications  not  ordinarily  to  be 
acquired  on the Public  Service  are required. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon the 
Table ;  and that the Papers relative  to National 
Debt  (Savings  Banks  and  Friendly  Societies), 
National  Debt  Annuities,  and  Greek  Loan be 
printed. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
j j ; s  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Exchange 
of  Notes  between  the  United  Kingdom  and 
Italy, renewing for a further period of .five years 
the  Arbitration  Agreement  signed  at  Rome, 
1st February  1904 (Treaty Series, No. 3,  1904). 
4th January  1909. 

Copy  of  Exchange  of  Notes  between  the 
  United  Kingdom  and  SpaiD,   renewing  for  a 
further  period  of  five  years  the  Arbitration 
Agreement  signed  at  London,  27th  February 
1904 (Treaty  Series, No. 4,1904),  11th January 
1909. 
.  Ordered,  That  the said Papers do lie upon the 
Table. 

Bankruptcy 
Courts 
(Ireland.) 

Mr. Birrell  presented, pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions of  an Act   of  Parliament,—Returns  of  the 
Official Assignees of the  King's  Bench  Division 
in Bankruptcy  in  Ireland, and the  Local  Courts 
at Belfast and  Cork, for  the  year  1908. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His 
Army
onSmataO  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of Memorandum  of 
the  Secretary  of  State  relating  to  the  Army 
Estimates for  1 9 0 9 - 1 0. 

a 

Army 

Copy  of  Annual  Return  of  the  Territorial 

Forc'eir^1

F ° r Ce  f or  t he  ? e ar  1 9 0 8

' 

Ordered,  That the, said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Aliens 
(Naturalisa-
tion.) 

Hops Bill. 

Resolved, That  an  humble  Address  be  pre­
sented to His Majesty, that He will  be graciously 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before  this  House  a Return  showing  the names 
of all Aliens to whom certificates of  Naturalisa­
tion  or  readmission  to  British  nationality have 
been issued, and whose oaths of  allegiance have, 
during the year ended the  31st day of  December 
1908, been registered  at the Home Office, giving 
the  country  and  place  of  residence  of  the 
person  naturalised  or readmitted,  and  including 
information  as  to  any Aliens who  have,  during 
the same period, obtained Acts  of  Naturalisation 
from the Legislature  (in continuation of  Parlia­
mentary  Paper, No.  75  of  Session  1908).—(Mr. 
Herbert  Samuel.) 

The  Order  for reading  a  second  time,  upon 
Tuesday the  16th day of  March  next, the  Hops 
Bill was read, and discharged. 

Mr.  Menzies,  supported  by  Sir John  Jardine,  Fruit  Growers 

Mr.  Pirie,  Mr.  John  Deans  Hope,  Mr.  Robert (Scotland) 
Harcourt,  Major  MiMiching,  Sir  John Dewar,  1  ' ... 
Mr.  Eugene  Wason, Mr.  Ainsworth,  Mr.  Pon-
svnby,  Mr. Lamont,  and  Mr.  Molteno, presented 
a  Bill  to  give  increased  security  of  tenure  to 
Fruit  Growers in  Scotland :  And  the  same was 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time upon  Friday 
next;  and to be printed. 

15111  4b" 

Mr. Jesse  Callings,  supported  by  Mr.  Court- Purchase  of 

hope,  Mr.  Ernest  Gardner,  Mr.  Staveley-Hill, Land 
Sir John  Kennaway,  Colonel  Lockwood, Mr. Pike S®nBdiHD<i 
Pease, Sir Herbert Roberts, Sir Berkeley Sheffield,  jjjjj  ^ 
Mr.  Slanier, and  Earl  Winter ton,  presented  a 
Bill  to provide  facilities for the  sale  of  Land  to 
occupying  Tenants, and to  extend the system  of 
peasant  proprietary  in  England  and  Wales : 
And  the  same  was ordered  to  be read  a second 
time  upon  Wednesday  the  17th  day  of  March 
next;  and to be  printed. 

Mr.  Luttrell,  supported by  Mr.  Corrie Grant, Cruelty to 

Mr. George Greenwood,  Mr. Ramsay Macdonald,  Animals  Bill. 
Mr. Cameron  Corbett, and Mr.  William  Frederick 
Smith,  presented  a Bill  to prohibit  the  hunting, 
coursing,  and  shooting  of  Animals  which have 
been  kept  in  confinement:  And  the  same waa 
ordered to be read  a second  time upon  Wednes­
day  the  10th  day  of  March  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Mr. Luttrell, supported by Sir John Kennaway, cierks of the 

Viscount  Morpeth,  and  Sir  Francis  Channing,  Peace and 
presented  a Bill  to amend  the Law  with regard Councils Bill 
to  the  appointment  of  Clerks of  the Peace  and 
County  Councils:  And  the  same  was  ordered 
to be  read  a second  time  upon Wednesday  the 
10th day of March  next;  and to  be printed. 

Mr. Luttrell, supported  by  Sir  Walter Foster, Justices of  the 

Sir Francis  Channing,  and  Mr.  Halley  Stewart,  P c a ce   Bill, 
presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  with  Bill50­
regard  to  the  appointment  of  Justices  of  the 
Peace  :  And  the same was ordered  to  be read a 
second  time  upon  Wednesday  the  10th  day  of 
March next;  and to be printed. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming  King's  Speech 
the adjourned Debate on the Amendment which, (Motion for an 
upon  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant  February,  Address>) 
was proposed  to  be  made to the Main  Question 
proposed  upon  the  16th  day  of  this  instant 
February, That an humble Address be  presented 
to  His  Majesty,  as followeth : 

Most Gracious  Sovereign, 

We,  Your  Majesty's  most  dutiful  and  loyal 
subjects, the  Commons  of  the  United  Kingdom 
of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  in  Parliament 
assembled, beg leave to offer our humble  thanks 
to  Your  Majesty  for  the  Gracious Speech which 
Your  Majesty has  addressed  to  both  Houses  of 
Parliament—(Mr.  Rogers); 

Which  Amendment  was,  at  the  end  of  the Lawlessness in 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  withdrawn. 

Question  to  add  the  words  "  But  we  humbly  Ireland, 
submit  that  the  condition  of  large  portions of 
Ireland is deplorable, and  is becoming worse, and 
express our regret that Your Majesty's Ministers 
Mr.  Younger, Mr.  Cleland,  Sir  George  Ml Crae,are  making  no  effectual  efforts  to  restore  the 
M r - W i l U e  >  Mr. Smeaton,  Mr.  Mitchell-Thomson,authority of the Law, or to protect the elementary * 
Mr. Murray Macdonald, Sir John Jardine, Major rights  of  Your  Majesty's  subjects" —  (Earl 

Outdoor Belief  Mr. Dundas White, supported by  Mr. Barnes, 
Friendly 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Bill  45.  Anstruther-Gray,  and  Mr.  Beale,  presented  a 
Bill  to  amend  the Law  relating to the grant of 
Outdoor Relief  to members of Friendly Societies 
in  Scotland  :  And  the  same  was ordered  to  be 
read a second  time  upon  Monday next;  and to 
be printed* 

Percy)  ; 

And the  Question  being  again proposed,  That 
those  words  be  there  added: — The  House 
resumed the said adjourned  Debate. 
And  the  Question being  put; 

 
 
 
 
 
NO.7,]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

2Uh—-25th 

February. 

27 

The  House  divided. 
The Yeas to the  Right; 

The  Noes to the Left. 
m  ii 
<•  ,, 
Tellers  for thej 
Yeas, 

"<  Hood, 

rr  >

fSir  Alexander Acland-

[Viscount  Valentia  :  


Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

1 Master of Elibank : 

118. 

|  3 3 6. 

Government  of
India. 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 
And the Main  Question being again proposed: 
  Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to the  Question,  by  adding  at  the  end  thereof 
the  words  " But  humbly  represent  that  this 
House, while cordially  welcoming  the  proposals 
which  have been  laid before it for  the reform of 
the  Government  of  India, is of  opinion  that  the 
success of those  proposals  is gravely  endangered 
by  the fact that British  subjects  in  that country 
are subjected  to  imprisonment  and  deportation 
without  having  had  any  charge  made  against 
them, and without having been  convicted of  any 
crime."—(Mr. Macharness.) 

And  the  Question being put, That those words 

be there  added; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr.  Macharness, 
\Mr.  Hart-Davies : 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

(Master of Elibank : 

76. 

; 195. 

So it passed in the  Negative. 
And  the Main Question being again proposed : 

—And  a Debate arising thereupon ; 

And  it  being  after  Eleven  of  the clock, the 

Debate  stood  adjourned. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan­
ning, &c.  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Public 
Accounts. 

Ordered,  That  the  Committee  of  Public 

Accounts  do consist  of  Fifteen  Members. 

The  Committee was accordingly  nominated  of 
Colonel  Williams, Mr. Ashton, Mr.  Bowles, Mr. 
Brigg,  Sir  Daniel  Goddard, Mr. Hazleton,  Sir 
Robert  Hobart,  Mr.  Hobhouse, Mr.  Leif  Jones, 
Sir  George Kekewick, Earl of  Kerry,  Mr.  Kettle,
Sir  George  M'Crae,  Mr.  Parker,  and  Mr. 
Mitchell- Thomson. 

Ordered, That the  Committee  have  power  to 

send for persons, papers* and records. 

Ordered, That  Five  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  then  the  House, having  continued  to 
sit  till  ten  minutes  after  Eleven  of  the 
clock, adjourned till to-morrow. 

[No.  8.] 

Thursday,  25th February 1909. 


The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 

before  Three  of the  clock. 


P R A Y E R S. 

R.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private  Bills 

M   from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions 
JJA
for  Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the  previously 
following  Bills,  referred  on  the  First Reading  inquired  into 
thereof,  the  Standing  Orders  not  previously 
inquired  into, and  which  are  applicable  thereto, 
have been  complied  with, viz. :— 

Great Northern,  Great  Central, and  Great  


Eastern Railways  Bill.  


Great  Central  Railway  (Various  Powers)  


Bill. 


Pontypridd  "Water  Bill.  

Littlehampton  Gas Bill. 

Leyland  and Farington  Gas  Bill.  

Blackwood  Gas  Bill. 

Oxford  and District  Tramways  Bill.  

North  Metropolitan  Electric  Power Supply 


Bill. 


Ordered, That the Bills  be read a second time. 


Ordered,  That Jones's Almshouse  and  Gram-  Jones's 

mar  School  Foundation  Bill  be  read  a  second 
time  upon  Thursday  the  11th  day  of  March  school* 
next. 

and 

Foundation 
BUI. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and Public 

read ;  and ordered to lie  upon the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide  First 
Report. 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  by  His  Majesty's Civil  Services 

(Supple-
Command,— Estimate  of  the  further  amount 
mentary 
required  in  the  year  ending  31st  March  1909 Estimate, 
for  Grants in Aid  of  Harbours. 
1908-9.) 

No. 46. 

Mr. Hobhouse also presented,  pursuant  to  the Dublin 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Treasury  Minute,  dated  24th  February  1909, 
directing  that  the  Forfeited  and  Unclaimed 
the  Accounting 
Moneys  Account  kept  by 
Officer of  the  Dublin  Metropolitan  Police  be 
audited  by  the  Comptroller  and  Auditor 
General. 

Metropolitan 
Police! 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon  the 

Table;  and that the said Estimate  be  printed. 

Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Railway 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  to  the  Board  of  Conciliation 
Trade  upon  matters  connected  with  the  esta-  oar  s" 
blishment aud working  of  Railway  Conciliation 
Boards, set up in accordance with the agreement 
of  the  6th November  1907. 

Copy  of  Return,  in  pursuance  of  Section  4  Railway 

of  the'Regulation  of  Railways  Act,  1889, 
Railway  Servants  of  certain  classes who  were,  Labour.) 
on  one  or  more  occasions during the month  of 
October  1908,  on  duty  on the  Railways  of  the 
United  Kingdom for more  than twelve  hours  at 
a time ;  or who, after  being  on  duty more than 
twelve hours, were allowed  to resume  work  with 
less than nine hours' rest. 

Ordered,  That the said  Papers do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Runciman presented,  pursuant  to  the Universities of 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of Oxford and 
Statutes  made  by  the  Governing  Body  of ^t" 1877 ° 
Trinity  College,  Cambridge,  under  the  Univer-  (Cambridge.) 
sities  of  Oxford  and  Cambridge Act,  1877,  on  No. 47. 
the 7th November  1908, amending certain of  the 
Statutes of the  College. 

VOL.  164. 

E  2 

2 5 th February . 

1909.  [No.  8. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  He upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to 
the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Report  by  the  Chairman  of  Committees  of 
the  House of  Lords  and the  Chairman  of  Ways 
and  Means  in  the  House  of  Commons  under 
the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland) 
Act,  1899,  that  they  are  of  opinion  that  the 
Dunoon Burgh  Order, the  Glasgow  Corporation 
Order,  and  the  Motherwell  Burgh  Extension, 
&c.  Order ought to  be  dealt  with by Private  Bill 
and not  by  Provisional  Order. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,— Copy  of  Instructions  for 
Foreign  Officers  travelling  in  certain  parts  of 
Germany. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Private 
Legislation 
Procedure 
(Scotland) 
Act,  1899. 

Army. 

1

Sir  Edward  Stracket/  presented,  pursuant  to 

M94to19038'

  t l le   directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Order,  No.  7652,  under  the  Diseases  of 
Animals  Acts,  1894  to  1903,  dated  19th  Feb­
ruary  1909,  entitled  the  Southampton  (Channel 
Islands  Animals)  Landing  Place  Order  of 
1909. 

British 
Museum. 

Boycotting 
(Ireland.) 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That  there  be  laid  before this  House 
an Account  of  the  Income  and  Expenditure  of 
the  British  Museum  (Special  Trust  Funds)  for 
the  year  ending  the  31st  day of  March  1909; 
and Return  of  the number  of  persons  admitted 
to  visit  the  Museum  and  the  British  Museum 
(Natural  History)  in  each  year  from  1903  to 
1908,  both  years  inclusive;  together  with  a 
Statement  of  the progress  made  in  the  arrange­
ment and  description  of  the  Collections,  and  an 
Account  of  Objects  added to  them  in  the  year 
1908.—(Mr.  Butcher.) 

Ordered, That, there  be laid before  this  House 
a Return  showing  the  number  of  cases and  of 
persons  boycotted  in  each  County  in  Ireland  on 
the 30th  day  of  November  1905  and 31st  day  of 
January  1909, under  the headings—wholly  boy­
cotted, partially boycotted, and minor  boycotting, 
with general  totals  for  each  County  and  for  all 
Ireland.—(Mr, Lonsdale.) 

New Member
swom.

  William Robert  Wellesley  Peel,  Esquire  (com­
monly  called  the  Honourable  William  Robert 
Wellesley  Peel),  Member  for  the  Borough  of 
Taunton, was  sworn. 

Selection. 

Private 
Legislation 
Procedure 
(Scotland) 
Act, 1899 
(Commis-" 
sioners.) 

Sir  William Brampton  Gurdon reported  from 
the  Committee of  Selection  ;  That  in  pursuance 
of  the  provisions  of  the  Private  Legislation 
Procedure 
(Scotland)  Act,  1899,  they  had 
selected  the  following  Fifteen Members  to form 
the  Parliamentary  Panel  of  Members  of  this 
House  to  act  as  Commissioners : — Sir  George
M'Crae,  Sir John Tuhe, Mr.  Findlay,  Mr.  Ains­
worth,  Sir John Dewar,  Mr.  John Deans  Hope, 
Mr.  Wilkie,  Mr.  Bell,  Major  Anstruther-Gray,
Viscount Dalrymple, Mr. M  Callum, Mr. Charles 
Price,  Sir  John  Jardine,  Captain  Murray,  and 
Mr.  Dundas  White. 

Standing 
CpmmitteeSr 

Chairmen's 
Panel. 

Sir  William Brampton Gurdon further reported 
from  the  Committee;  That  they  had  selected 
the  following  Eight  Members  to  be  the  Chair-
men's Panel,  and  to  serve  as  Chairmen  of  the 
Four  Standing  Committees  to  be  appointed 

under  Standing  Order  No.  47  :—Sir  Francis 
Channmg, Sir  Thomas Esmonde, Mr.  Laurence 
Hardy,  Sir  William  Holland, Sir  David Brynmor 
Jones,  Mr.  Stuart-Wortley,  Mr.  Eugene  Wason, 
and  Mr. John  William Wilson. 

Sir  William Brampton Gurdon further reported  Selection, 

from  the  Committee;  That  the following  Mem­
bers,  representing  Scottish  Constituencies,  are 
appointed  to  serve  on  the  Standing  Committee  Scottish 
for  the consideration  of  all  Public  Bills relating Committee 
exclusively  to  Scotland,  and  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee : —  The  Lord  Advocate, 
Mr.  Ainsworth,  Major  Anstruther-  Gray,  Mr. 
Robert  Balfour,  Mr.  Barnes,  Mr.  Beale,  Sir 
Arthur  Bignold,  Mr.  Bryce,  Mr.  Buchanan,
Mr.  Caldwell, Mr.  Churchill, Mr.  Cleland, Mr. 
Cochrane, Mr. Cameron  Corbett,  Sir Henry Craifc,
Mr.  Cross, Lord  Dalmeny,  Viscount  Dalrymple,.
Sir James Dalziel,  Sir  John Dewar,  Mr.  Robert 
Duncan,  the  Master  of  Elibank,  Mr.  Ershine,
Mr.  Esslemont, Mr.  Munro  Ferguson, Mr.  Find­
lay,  Sir  Thomas Glen-Coats,  Mr.  Gulland, Mr. 
Secretary  Haldane,  Mr.  Robert Harcourt,  Mr. 
Leicester  Harmsworth,  Mr.  John  Henderson, 
Mr.  John  Deans  Hope,  Sir  John  Jardine,  Mr. 
Laidlaw,  Mr.  Lamont,  Mr.  Murray Macdonald, 
Mr.  M'Callum,  Sir  George M'Crae,  Sir  Lewis 
M'lver,  Major  M'Micking,  Mr.  Menzies,  Mr. 
Molteno,  Mr.  Morton,  Captain  Murray,  Mr. 
James Murray,  Mr.  Pirie,  Mr.  Ponsonby,  Mr. 
Charles  Price,  the  Prime  Minister,  Sir  Robert 
Pullar,  Dr.  Rainy,  Mr.  Smeaton, Mr.  Halley
Stewart,  Mr.  Sutherland,  Mr.  Tennant,  Mr. 
Mitchell- Thomson, Sir John Batty  Tuke,  Captain 
Waring,  Mr.  Cathcart  Wason,  Mr.  Eugene
Wason,  Mr.  Watt,  Mr.  Weir,  Mr.  Dundas 
White,  Mr.  Wilkie, Mr.  Williamson,  Mr.  M'Kin­
non  Wood, and Mr.  Younger. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr. Remnant,  supported  by Mr.  Gouldinq, Sir  Police 
William Bull,  Mr.  Claude  Hay,  Mr.  William  (Weekly 
Edwin  Harvey,  Mr.  Wiles,  and  Mr.  Dickinson,
presented  a  Bill  to  provide  one  day's  rest  in 
seven  to  the Police  :  And  the  same  was ordered 
to  be read a second  time upon Wednesday  next; 
and  to  be  printed. 

1 

Mr.  Bowerman,  supported  by  Mr.  Gill,  Mr.  Cheap Trains 

Hodge,  Mr.  Hudson,  Mr.  John  Taylor,  Mr. BiU-
War die,  Mr.  Tyson  Wilson,  and  Mr.  William  Bill 52. 
Thome,  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Law 
relating  to  Cheap  Trains  for 
the  working 
classes :  And  the  same was  ordered  to be  read 
a  second  time  upon  Thursday  the  11th  day  of 
March next  ;  and to  be  printed. 

Sir  George Kekewich,  supported by  Sir  William  Contamination 

Collins,  Sir  Edward  Sassoon, Mr.  Seddon, and  of  Children 
Bill. 
Mr.  Yoxall, presented  a Bill  to  provide  for the  D " 
protection  of  Children  and  young  persons  from 
contamination :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to 
be  read a second  time upon  Thursday  next;  and 
to be  printed. 

Bill  53. 

Sir  George Kekewich, supported by Mr. Brooke,  Pedlars Acts 
Mr.  Charles  Duncan,  Mr.  Gibbsj  Mr.  Walter Amendment 
Long,  Mr.  William  Redmond, Mr.  Russell  Rea,  1 ' 
and Mr.  Simon,  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the 
Pedlars  Acts  as  regards  persons  for  whom 
certificates  shall not  be  required  :  And  the same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Thursday  next ;  and to  be printed. 

Bill  54. 

Sir  Samuel  Scott,  supported  by  Mr.  Ashley, Territorial 
Sir  Edward Tennant, Viscount Helmsley,  Captain Army Ballot 
Kincaid-Smith,  and  Viscount  Castlereagh, pre-
sented  a  Bill  to  amend  and  apply  the  Militia 
Ballot  Acts  to  the  Territorial  Army:  And  the 
same was ordered to be read  a second time  upon 

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Monday  the  8th day  of  March  next;  and to be 
printed. 

Bill 56. 

Hops  (No.   2)  Mr.Fell,  supported  by  Mr. Hay,  presented  a 
Bill. 
Bill  to  prohibit  the  use  of  Hop  substitutes 
in brewing, and  the importation  of  Hops  except 
in  bags  properly  marked:  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Friday 
the 5th  day of  March  next;  and to  be printed. 

King's  Speech 
The  Order  of  the day being read, for resuming 
<ddSs.)° r a n t he  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Main  Question 
proposed  upon  the  16th  day  of  this  instant 
February, That  an humble Address  be presented 
to  His Majesty,  as followeth;: 

Most  Gracious  Sovereign, 

We,  Your  Majesty's  most  dutiful  and  loyal 
subjects, the Commons  of  the  United  Kingdom 
of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  in  Parliament 
assembled, beg leave  to offer our humble  thanks 
to  Your  Majesty for the  Gracious  Speech  which 
Your  Majesty  has addressed  to  both  Houses  of 
Parliament—(Mr. Rogers)-, 

And  the  Main  Question  being  again  pro­
posed :—The  House resumed  the said  adjourned 
Debate. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the  Question,  by  adding  at  the  end  thereof 
the  words  " But  we  humbly  regret  that  Your 
Majesty's  Government  has  not  foreshadowed 
any  reform  in  the  present  system  of 
local 
taxation,  and, in  the  relation between  local  and 
imperial  burdens,  which  this  House  declared, 
on  the  18th  February  1908,  to  demand  the 
immediate  attention of  Parliament, with  a  view 
to a more  equitable adjustment  as between  local 
and imperial obligations."—(Viscount Helmsley.) 

And  the  Question  being put, That those w;ords 

be  there added ; 

The House  divided. 
The Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left, 
Tellers for the  J" Viscount  Helmsley, 

Yeas, 

\Mr. Hicks Beach  : 
Tellers for the J Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

t Master of  Elibank : 

98. 

\ 
/ 
'( 
221. 
j 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 
And the Main  Question  being again  proposed: 
Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Question,  by  adding  at  the  end thereof 
the words " But regret that  no reference  is made 
in the  Gracious  Speech  to  affairs on the  Congo 
under  the  new  administration, to  the  postpone­
ment or abandonment of those reforms in taxation 
of  the  natives,  in  native  land  tenure,  and  the 
failure  to  establish  that  freedom of trade which 
was  guaranteed  under  the  Berlin  Act  and the 
Anglo - Congolese  Agreement,  and  faithfully 
promised  before  annexation  was  concluded."— 
(Sir  Gilbert Parker.) 

And  the  Question being  proposed, That those 
words  be  there  added:—The  said  proposed 
Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the  House, 
withdrawn. 

And the Main  Question being  again proposed : 
Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Question, by  adding  at  the, end  thereof 
the  words  "  But  we  humbly  represent to  Your 
Majesty  that  grave  detriment  is  caused to  the 
country  by  the virtual  suspension  of  the opera­
tion  of  important parts of  the Aliens Act,  1905, 
due to regulations  and  instructions  which  have 
been  issued with respect to its enforcement, and 
further, that energetic measures have now become 

VOL.  164. 

Xiocal 
Taxation. 

The  Congo. 

Aliens Act, 
1905. 

29 
necessary  for  the  exclusion  and  expulsion from 

the  United  Kingdom  of  alien  anarchists  who  

advocate  or condone  assassination  as a means  of  

obtaining  political ends."—(Mr.  Hay.)  


And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  those  

words  be  there added  And  a  Debate  arising  

thereupon; 


The  Prime  Minister  rose  in  his  place  and  

claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now  

put. 


tion  be now  put; 

And  the  Question being put, That  the  Ques-  Question  put  

(pursuant to 

S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the] Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Master  of  Elibank : 


Tellers for the f Mr. Ashley, 

(Mr.  Hunt:  


Noes, 

213. 

} 80. 

So it  was resolved in the Affirmative. 

And  the Question being accordingly put,  That  


those words  be there  added; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Hay,

Yeas, 

I Mr. Rapert  Guinness : 

Tellers for the J Mr. Joseph  Pease,


Noes, 

(Master  of  Elibank • 

82. 


208. 


So-it  passed  in  the  Negative.  

Whereupon  the  Prime Minister  claimed,  That  


the  Main  Question  be now put. 

And  the  Main  Question  being  accordingly  Main Question 
put .(pursuant 

put:—It  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Resolved, That an humble Address be presented ^ Deb^e?)™*6 

to His  Majesty,  as followeth : 

Most  Gracious  Sovereign, 

We,  Your  Majesty's  most  dutiful  and  loyal 
subjects,  the  Commons of the  United  Kingdom 
of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  in  Parliament 
assembled,  beg  leave to  offer our  humble thanks 
to  Your  Majesty for  the Gracious  Speech which 
Your  Majesty  has addressed  to  both  Houses  of 
Parliament. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Address  be  presented 
to  His  Majesty by  such Members  of  this  House 
as are of  His  Majesty's  Most  Honourable  Privy 
Council  or  of  His  Majesty's  Household. 

Resolved,  That this  House will, upon Monday  Supply, 

next, resolve  itself into a Committee  to  consider 
of  the  Supply to  be granted  to  His  Majesty.— 
(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Ordered, That the several Estimates  presented 

to  this  House  during  the  present  Session  be 
referred to the  Committee  of  Supply. 

Resolved,  That this  House will, upon  Monday  Ways  and 

next, resolve itself  into a Committee  to  consider  Means, 
of  the Ways and Means for raising the  Supply to 
be granted  to  His Majesty.—(Mr. Joseph Pease.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan- T « n 
ning, &c. Bill; 

_ 

_ 

Planning, fee. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament, 
Bill; 

BiU" 

_  

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

And then  the House,  having  continued  to  

sit  till  twenty-one  minutes  after Eleven  

of the clock, adjourned  till to-morrow. 


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2 F e b r u a r y. 

1 9 0 9. 

[No/,9. 

In  pursuance  of  Standing  Order  No.  1 

Ordered,  That the said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

(Sittings  of the House)  I  hereby nominate— 

Table. 

The  Eight  Honourable  Charles  Beilby 

Stuart- Wortley, 
Sir  William Holland, 
Mr.  Charles  Fenwick, 
Mr. Alfred  Hutton, and 
Mr. Patrick Joseph  Power 

to act during this Session  as temporary Chairmen 
of  Committees when requested  by  the  Chairman 
of  Ways  and  Means. 

JAMES   W .  L O W T H E R, 
Speaker. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means  reported,  Private 
That  after  conferring  with  the  Chairman  o f ^3 i a t i on 
Procedure 
Committees  of  the  House  c-f  Lords,  for  the (Scotland > 
purpose of  determining  in  which  House of  Par- Act,  1899.' 
liament  the  respective  Bills  under the  Private 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, 
should  be  first  considered, they had determined 
that the following  Bills should  originate  in  the 
House  of  Lords,  viz.:— 
Dunoon  B u r g h. 
Glasgow  Corporation. 

©

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

.  [No.  9.] 

Friday,  2Qth February 1909. 

The  House  met  at  Twelve  of the clock. 

Ordered,  That the Petition  of  the  Trustees of  British 
the  British  Museum  for a Grant  in  Aid,  which  Museum, 
was presented  upon the  18th day of  this  instant 
February,  be  referred  to1  the  Committee  of 
Supply. 

P R A T E R S. 

Salmon, 
Trout,  and 
River Tweed 
Fisheries  Bill 
(Standing 
Orders 
applicable 
thereto 
complied 
with.) 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from one of the Examiners  of  Petitions for 
! Private  Bills,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the 
'louse  of  the 22nd day  of February,  That  in the 
case  of  the  following  Bill  the  Standing  Orders 
which are applicable thereto have  been  complied 
with, viz. :— 

Salmon, TrOut, and River  Tweed  Fisheries 

Bill. 

Harwich 

Docks  Bill.  


Kirkwall 
Water 
Provisional 
Order  BUI. 

Bill  57. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  First 
Report. 

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904. 

United  States 
(No.  1,1909.) 

Superannua­
tions. 

Ordered, That  the  Harwich  Docks  Bill  be 
read a second  time upon  Thursday the  11th day 
of March next. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented  a  Bill  to  con­
firm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Burgh 
Police (Scotland) Act,  1892, relating to Kirkwall 
Water :  And  the same was read the first time. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be  printed. 

Several  Public  Petitions were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered to  lie upon the  Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copies  of  Orders  made by  the Councils  of  the 
County  of  Denbigh  and  the  Boroughs  of 
Bradford,  Congleton,  and  Walsall  under  the 
Shop  Hours  Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by  the 
Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department, 
fixing the hours  of  closing for  certain classes of 
Shops. 

Ordered,  That the  said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Agreement 
with  'the  United  States  for  submitting  to 
arbitration  the  question  of  the  North  Atlantic 
Fisheries,  signed  at Washington,  27th January 
1909, and Note respecting the same. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— Copy  of 
Treasury  Minute  under  the  Superannuation 
Act,  1859, dated 22nd February  1909, declaring 
that  for  the  due  and  efficient discharge  of  the 
duties  of  the  Office of  Comptroller  General  of 
Patents professional  or  other  peculiar qualifica­
tions not ordinarily  to  be acquired  on the Public 
Service  are required. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Temperances 

Second  Reading  of  the  Temperance  (Scotland) (Scotland) 
Bill; 

Bill. 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  six  months."  —  (Sir 
Henry  Craik.) 

And  the Question  being  proposed, That  the 
word " now "  stand part of  the  Question  :—And 
a Debate arising thereupon ; 

Mr.  Pirie  rose  in  his  place  and  claimed  to Closure 
move, That  the  Question  be now put;  but  Mr. claimed,  but 
Mr.  Speaker 
Speaker  withheld  his  assent, and  declined  then 
withholds hia­
to put that  Question  :—Then the House resumed assent. 
the Debate. 

Mr.  Pirie  rose  in  his  place  and  claimed  to 

move, That the Question  be now  put. 

tion  be now  put; 

And  the Question being  put, That  the  Ques- Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers  for the fMr. Pirie,

lgg 

1
J 

„. 

Yeas, 

1 Mr. Eugene  Wason :

Tellers  for the j Sir  Henry  Craik,

Noes, 

I Mr.  Stanley Wilson  :  J 

So it was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
And  the  Question  being  accordingly  put, 
That  the  word  "  now"  stand  part  of  the 
Question; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the / Mr.  Pirie, 

Yeas, 

l.Mr. Eugene  Wason: 

^ 

) 
j 

Tellers for  the/ Mr.  Walter Guinness,  \  „.

Noes, 

I Mr.  Stanley Wilson  : 
So it  was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 
And  the  Main  Question being  put; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  now read a second 
time :—The  Bill was accordingly  read  a  second 
time. 

J 

A  Motion was made, and  the  Question  being 
put, That the Bill  be  committed to a Committee 
of the whole House—(Sir  Henry  Craik) ; 

 
 
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9  EDW.  V I I. 

26th February.—1st March. 

31 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right;  

The  Noes to  the  Left. 


(Sir  Alexander  Acland-


Tellers for  t h e /  S V ^ 
' 

Yeas 
' 

1 
[Viscount  Valentia: 

Tellers for the/ Mr.  Pirie, 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Eugene  Wason : 

I  51. 
/

1172. 

So  it passed in the  Negative. 
Then  the  Bill  was  committed  to a  Standing 

Committee. 

Police Super­
annuation 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Superannuation 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Friday  the  12th  day of  March  next. 

Fruit Growers
(Scotland)
BlU-

  The Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of the Fruit Growers  (Scotland) 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  the  12th day  of  March  next. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
BiU; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Public 
.Petitions. 

Ordered,  That  a  Select  Committee  be  ap­
pointed, to  whom  shall  be  referred  all  Petitions 
presented to  the  House,  with  the  exception  of 
such  as  relate  to  Private  Bills;  and  that such 
Committee  do  classify  and  prepare  abstracts  of 
the  same,  in  such  form  and  manner  as  shall 
appear  to  them  best  suited  to  convey  to  the 
House all  requisite  information  respecting  their 
contents, and  do  report  the  same  from  time  to 
time to the  House ;  and that the Reports  of  the 
Committee  do  set  forth, 
in  respect  of  each 
Petition,  the  number  of  signatures  which  are 
accompanied by addresses, and which  are  written 
on sheets headed  in every  case  by  the prayer  of 
the  Petition  ;  provided  that  on  every  separate 
sheet after the first the prayer may be reproduced 
in  print  or  by  other  mechanical  process:— 
And  that  such  Committee have  power to  direct 
the  printing  in  extenso  of  such  Petitions,  or 
of  such  parts  of  Petitions,  as  shall  appear  to 
require  it  :—And  that  such  Committee  have 
power  to  report  their  opinion  and  observations 
thereupon  to the  House. 

[ N  o .  1 0 .] 

Monday, 1 st March  1909. 
The  House  met at a quarter of  an hour 

before  Three  of  the  clock.  


P  R A Y E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private Bills 

from one of  the Examiners of  Petitions for 

Private  Bills, That  in  the case of  the  following preyi0usiy 
Bills,  referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof,  inquired into 
the  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired ™"hpiied 
into,  and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have 
been complied  with, viz.:— 

Hull  and Barnsley  Railway  Bill.  

Eastbourne  Gas  Bill.  

North  and  South  Shields  Electric  Railway  


Bill. 


Folkestone,  Sandgate,  and  Hythe  Tram­

ways  Bill.  


Ordered, That the Bills be read a second  time.  


The  Comptroller  of  the  Household  reported  King's Speech 

to  the  House,  That  His  Majesty,  having  been (Answer to 
attended  with  their  Address of  the 25th day  of 
February  last,  was pleased  to  receive  the  same 
very  graciously,  and  to  give  the  following 
Answer: 

0 

I  have  received  with  great  satisfaction  the 
loyal  and  dutiful  expression  of your  thanks for 
the  Speech  with  which  I  have  opened  the 
present  Session  of  Parliament 

Ordered,  That  the Aldershot  Gas  and  Water  Aldershot Gas 

Bill  be read a second  time to-morrow.

ancl  Water 
Bill. 

The  Ards  Railways  Bill  was  read  a  second  Ards Railways 

time, and committed. 

Bill. 

The  Collooney,  Ballina,  and Belmnllet  Rail-  Collooney, 
ways and Piers  Bill  was read  a second  time, and 5a,llint; *nd 
Belmullet 
„ 
i	 
committed. 
Railways and 
Piers BiU. 

' 

' 

Ordered, That the London and North  Western  London and 
Railway  Bill  be read a second  time to-morrow.  North Western 

Railway  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Newry,  Keady,  and Tynan  Newry, Ready, 

Railway  Bill  be read a second time upon Monday  a*1"1 Tynan 
next.

Railway  Bill. 

The  Committee  was  accordingly  nominated 
o f  Mr.	  Edward  Barry,  Mr.  Burt,  Mr.  Charles 
Craig, Mr. Ellis  Griffith,  Mr.  Leicester  Harms­
worth, Mr. Henniker Heaton, Mr. T. P.   0 ' Connor,  (General  Powers)  Bill; 
Mr.  Walter Roch, Mr. Agar-Robartes, Sir Charles 
Shaw,  Colonel  Sandys,  Lord  Willoughby de 
Eresby, Mr.  Wills, and  Mr. Henry Joseph  Wilson. 

Ordered,  That  Three  be  the quorum  of  the  the  clock. 

•Committee.—(Mr. Joseph Pease.) 

The York  Town  and Blackwater  Gas  (Electric 
Lighting,  &c.)  Bill was  read  a  second time, and 
committed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  County  Council 

York  Town 
and  Black­
water Gas 
(Electric 
Lighting,  &c.) 
BiU. 
London 
County 
Council 
(General 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a  second  time Powers) BiU. 

upon  Thursday  the  11th  day  of  this  instant 
March,  at a quarter  of  an  hour  after  Eight  of 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant 
to  Standing  Order  No. 3, it  being  then 
twenty-five  minutes  after  Five  of  the 
clock,  till  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  oidham 
Second  Reading  of  the  Oldham  Corporation  Corporation 
Bill;	 

WU-

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

T O L.  164.  	

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Waterford 
Second  Reading  of  the  Waterford  Harbour  Harbour  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 
upon  Monday  the  29th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

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Is* March. 

. 

[No.  10. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
L>ght 
Railways Act,  Command,-Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Light 

Ordered,  That the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table  ;  and be  printed.  


Railway  Commissioners  under  the  Light  Rail­
ways Act,  1896, and  modified  and  confirmed  by 
the  Board  of  Trade,  authorising  the  recon­
struction  and  working  as  a  Light  Railway  of 
certain  parts  of  the railways  and works  of  the 
Shropshire  Railways  Company,  in  the  Counties 
of  Shropshire  and  Montgomeryshire  (Shropshire 
and  Montgomeryshire  Light  Railway  Order, 
1909). 

Light 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Light  Railway 
Railways Act,  Commissioners  under  the  Light  Railways  Act, 
1896, and  modified and  confirmed by  the  Board 
of  Trade,  amending  the Bath  and District  Light 
Railways Order,  1901  (Bath Electric  Tramways 
(Light  Railway  Amendment)  Order,  1909). 

18g6yays 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Light  Railway 
ct'  Commissioners  under  the  Light  Railways  Act, 
1896, and modified  and confirmed by  the  Board 
of Trade,  authorising  the construction  of a  Light 
Railway  in the  County  of  Cornwall,  from  Kelly 
Bray  to  North  Hill  (being  an  extension  of  the 
Light  Railway  authorised  by  the  Bere  Alston 
and  Calstock  Light  Railway  Orders,  1900  to 
1906), and  for  other purposes  (Bere  Alston and 
Calstock  Light Railway (Extension  and  Amend­
ment)  Order,  1909). 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Light  Railway 
Light 
Railways Act,  Commissioners  under  the  Light  Railways  Act, 
1896,  and  confirmed  by  the  Board  of  Trade, 
authorising the construction  of  a Light  Railway 
in, the  County  of  Devon,  from  a  junction  with 
the Princetown  Railway  near  King's  Tor, in  the 
Parish  of  Walkhampton,  to  Merrivale,  in  the 
Parish of  Whitchurch (Merrivale Light  Railway 
Order,  1909). 

Light 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Light  Railway 
Railways Act,  Commissioners  under  the  Light  Railways  Act, 
1896, and  modified  and  confirmed by  the  Board 
of  Trade, further amending the Callington  Light 
Railway  Order,  1900,  as  amended  by  the 
Callington  Light  Railway  (Extension  of  Time) 
Order,  1903, and the  Callington  Light  Railway 
(Amendment  and  Transfer)  Order,  1907,  and 
authorising  the construction  of  a Light  Railway 
in  extension  of the  Light  Railway  authorised by 
the  Callington  Light  Railway  Order,  1900 
(Callington  Light  Railway (Amendment) Order, 
1909). 

Ordered, That the said Papers do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ecclesiastical  Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Commission.  Majesty's  Command,  —  Copy  of  Sixty-first 
Report  from  the  Ecclesiastical  Commissioners 
for England, with  an  Appendix. 

Public Records  Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also presented,  pur­
(Regulations.)  8 u a n t  to  the directions  of  several Acts of  Parlia­

Shop Honrs 
Act, 1904. 

ment,— Copy  of  Rules  and  Regulations,  dated 
11th February  1909, made by  the  Master  of  the 
Rolls, respecting  the public  use of  the  Records. 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
County  of  Southampton under  the  Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by  the  Secretary  of 
State  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
hours  of  closing  for  certain  classes  of  Shops 
within  the  Urban  Districts  of  Eastleigh  and 
Bishopstoke. 

Ordered, That  the  said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

University  of 
Glasgow. 

No. 48. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to 
the  directions of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
0f  Abstract  of  Accounts  of  the  University  of 
Glasgow  for  the  year  ending  30th  September 
1908. 

Sir  William  Brampton  Gurdon reported  from  Selection,  


the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had  

selected  the following  Seven  Members  to be  the  

Panel  to  serve  on  unopposed  Bill  Committees  Unopposed'  

under  Standing  Order  109 :—Sir  David  Bryn-  committees*  

mor Jones, Mr. Paulton,  Lord  Robert  Cecil, Mr. (Panel.)  

Beale,  Mr.  Munro  Ferguson,  Mr.  Hills,  and 
Mr.  Mooney.  


Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  George  Greenwood,  supported  by  Sir Law of 

Walter Foster,  Dr.  Shipman, Sir  Maurice  Levy, 
Mr.  Snowden, Mr. Pickersgill,  Mr.  Swift  Mac- ^1']nendment> 
Neill, Mr. Bright,  Sir  Henry  Cotton, Mr.  Byles,  Bin 53. 
Mr. Manfield, and  Mr. Bertram,  presented  a  Bill 
to classify  Murders  and to amend  the  Law  with 
regard to  Suicide and Infanticide  : And  the same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Tuesday the  9th day of this instant  Maroh;  and 
to  be  printed. 

Mr.  George  Greenwood,  supported  by  Sir  Deaths 

Walter Foster, Mr. John Robertson, Mr. Smeaton,  Registration: 
Dr.  Rutherford,  Mr.  Hart-Davies,  Dr.   Shipman,  ^BuIlals 
and  Mr.  Atherley-Jones,  presented  a  Bill  to 
gjjj 59^ 
amend  the  Law  relating  to the  registration  of 
Deaths  and  to  Burials  :  And  the  same  was 
ordered to be read  a second time  upon  Tuesday 
the  9th  day  of  this  instant  March;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Mr.  Hobhouse, supported  by  Mr.  Chancellor  Customs an<S 

of the  Exchequer,  presented  a Bill to  amend the Inland 
Law  relating  to  Customs and Inland  Revenue,  BnIenUe 
and  for  other  purposes connected  with finance : 
And  the same  was  ordered  to  be  read  a second 
time  to-morrow ;  and to be  printed. 

gyj  QQ 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being  Business of 
put, That the Proceedings  on the  Reports  of the  Jhe House 
Committee of  Ways  and  Means  and  Committees  Money18 ° 
authorising  the  expenditure  of  public  money,  Committees.> 
other  than  the  Committee  of  Supply,  may  be 
entered  upon  at  any hour  after  Eleven  of  the 
clock, though  opposed,  and  shall  not  be  inter­
rupted  under  the  provisions  of  the  Standing 
Order  (Sittings  of  the  House)—(The  Prime 
Minister); 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas to  the  Right;  

The  Noes  to the  Left. 

Tellers for the / M r.  Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

(.Master  of  Elibank : 

202. 


Tellers  for the f Sir Frederick Banbury,' \  ^ 

Noes, 

l.Mr.  James Hope: 

J 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 


A  Motion  was  made, and  the  Question  being  Buildings and 

proposed, That  leave be  given to bring in a Bill  Engineering 
to  make  better  provision  for  the  safety  andWorks< 
health of persons  employed  in  certain  Building 
operations  and Engineering  Works, and purposes 
connected  therewith—(Mr.  Herbert  Samuel); 

And  the Motion  being  opposed,  after a brief  Mr. Speaker 

explanatory  statement  from  the  Member  whoPut8t.he 
made  the  Motion  and  from  a  Member  who (p^r^ant  to 
opposed  it,  Mr.  Speaker  put  the  Question, S.O. Ko. n.> 
pursuant to  Standing  Order  No.  11. 
And  the  Question was agreed  to. 
Ordered, That  Mr.  Herbert  Samuel  and  Mr. 
Secretary  Gladstone  do  prepare  and  bring  in 
the  Bill. 







No.  10.]  9  EDW.  V I I. 

1st—2nd  March. 

33 

Buildings and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill, 
Bill  61. 

Mr. Herbert,  Samuel accordingly  presented  a 
Bill  to  make  better provision for  the safety and 
health of  persons  employed  in  certain  Building 
operations and  Engineering Works, and purposes 
connected therewith :  And the same was read the 
first time, and ordered  to  be read  a  second  time 
to-morrow;  and to  be  printed. 

Supply. 

The  House, according to Order, resolved itself 

into the  Committee  of  Supply. 

Chairman 
declines  to 
put  the 
Question 
(Abuse of 
Rules.) 

(In  the  Committee.)  


Civil  Services  and Revenue  Departments  

Supplementary  Estimates,  1908-9.  


Class  VI. 

Motion  made,  and  Question proposed,  That a 
supplementary  sum not  exceeding  £910,000  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course  of  payment  during 
the year  ending  on  the 31st  day  of  March  1909 
for  the  payment  of  Old  Age  Pensions  in  the 
United  Kingdom,  and  for  Administrative  Ex­
penses  in connection  therewith : 

Whereupon  Motion  made, and  Question  pro­
posed,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £909,900  be 
granted for the said Service.—(Mr.  Fell.) 

Mr. James Hope  moved,  That  the  Chairman 
to  sit 
do  report  Progress,  and  ask 
again;  but the  Chairman,  being  of  opinion  that 
the  Motion  was  an  abuse  of  the  Rules  of  the 
House, declined  to propose  the  Question  there­
upon  to the  Committee. 

leave 

Question  again  proposed,  That  a  sum  not 
exceeding  £909,900  be  granted  for  the  said 
Service:—Motion,  by leave,  withdrawn. 

Original  Question  put, and  agreed  to. 

Resolution  to  be reported. 

Class  VII. 

Motion  made, and  Question  proposed,  That  a 
supplementary  sum  not  exceeding  £100,000 
be granted  to His  Majesty, to defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course  of  payment  during 
the year ending  on  the 31st day  of  March  1909 
for  Contributions  in  Aid  of  Expenses  under  the 
Unemployed  Workmen  Act,  1905  : 

And  it  being Eleven  of  the clock,  the  Chair­
man  left  the  Chair  to  make  his  Report  to  the 
House. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair  ;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee had come to a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  the  Committee  had 
made  Progress  in  the  matter to  them  referred ; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may  have  leave to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee of  Ways  and  Means ; 

Resolved, That this House  will, upon  Wednes­
day next, resolve itself  into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament 
Bill  ; 

B'U-

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Remission  of 
Second  Reading  of  the Remission  of  Surcharges  ^rc,h,ar§e'  ,
(Dublin)  B i l l;  
(Dubim)  Bui. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Salmon, 
Second Reading of the Salmon, Trout, and River  Trout, and 
Tweed  Fisheries  Bill;

S 

. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Outdoor  Relief 

Second  Reading  of the  Outdoor  Relief  Friendly  Friendly 
Societies  (Scotland)  Bill; 

fsStad) 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time  Bm­

upon  Tuesday  the  9th day of this instant  March. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to  

sit  till  one  minute  after  Eleven  of  the  

clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow.  


S T A N D I NG  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution  by  Mr. Speaker, pursuant to  Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 
Mr.  Speaker  being  of  opinion  that  the 
Temperance  (Scotland)  Bill  is  a  Bill  relating 
exclusively  to  Scotland,  the  Bill  will  be  con­
sidered by  the  Standing  Committee  on  Scottish 
Bills. 

[No.  11.] 

Tuesday, 2nd March  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an hour 

before Three  of  the  clock.  


P R A T E R S. 

THE  Blackwood  Gas  Bill  was  read a second Blackwood 

time, and  committed. 

Gas  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Great  Northern,  Great  Great 
Central,  and  Great  Eastern  Railways  Bill  be  Northern, 
Great  Central, 
read a second time  to-morrow. 
and  Great 
Eastern 
Railways  Bill. 

The  Leyland  and  Farington  Gas  Bill  was Leyland and 

read a second  time, and  committed. 

Farington  Gas 
Bill. 

The Littlehampton Gas Bill was read  a second Littlehampto 

time, and  committed. 

Gas Bill. 

The  North  Metropolitan  Electric  Power North 

Supply  Bill  was  read  a  second  time,  and com-  Metropolitan 
mitted. 

^ectriePower 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Oxford  and  District  Tramways  Bill  was  Oxford  ana 

read  a second time, and committed. 

District 
Tramways-
Bill. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan­
ning, &c.  B i l l; 

Ordered, That the Pontypridd  Water  Bill  be  Pontypridd 
Water  Bill. 

read a second  time to-morrow. 

The Preston, Chorley, and Horwich Tramways  Preston, 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

Bill  was read  a second  time, a,nd committed. 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

r 

Chorley, and 
Horwich 
Tramways 
Bill. 

 
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llth—12th—mil 

March. 

1909. 

[No.  19. 

Aldershot  Gas 
and  Water 
BllL 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Aldershot  Gas  and 
Water  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

London and 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
S a  y   m 1 1  S e c o nd   Reading  of  the  London  and  North 

Western  Railway  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  16th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon  the  Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide First 
Report. 
Hugh  Godfray  A  Petition  of  Messieurs  Helder,  Roberts, and 
Company,  Solicitors,  of  3 and  4,  Clements  Inn, 
lia^vi*"7 
Strand, London, was presented, and read;  setting 
forth  that  an  action  between  Hugh  Godfray 
Plaintiff,  and  Harry  Davies,  Defendant,  is 
pending  in  the  High  Court  of  Justice,  King's 
Bench  Division  ;  and  that  it  will  be  necessary, 
on  behalf  of  the  said  Defendant,  to  produce 
before  the  said Court,  at the  hearing  of  the said 
action, the Report  of  the  Examiner  of  Petitions 
for  Private  Bills  on  the  London  and  Windsor 
Motor  Roads,  Tramroads,  and  Tramways  Bill 
[Lords'],  1908 ;  and  praying  that  leave  may  be 
given  to  the  proper  Officer  of  the  House  to 
attend  at  the  hearing  and  produce  the  said 
Report,  and  to  give  such  further  evidence  as 
may  be  necessary  to further  the ends of justice. 
Ordered,  That  leave  be  given  to  the  proper 

Officer to  attend  accordingly. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
Treaty  Series 
(No. 4,1909.)  H i  s  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Accession 
of  the  United  Kingdom  to  the  International 
Convention  signed  at  Berne,  26th  September 
1906,  prohibiting  the  use  of  White  (Yellow) 
Phosphorus  in the manufacture of  Matches,  28th 
December  1908. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

c 

1 s8^ 

Mr.  Birrell  presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com-
Irish  Land 
Commission  m a n d ?  —  Copy  of  Return  of  Proceedings  of 
l ri sh  Land  Commission under the Land  Law 
Acts,  the  Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts,  1883-91, 
and  the  Land  Purchase  Acts,  during  the  month 
of December  1908. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Judicial 
Statistics d  nd  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Judicial  Statis-
Walfso"  311  tics.  Part  I.,  relating  to  Criminal  Proceedings, 
Police,  Coroners,  Prisons,  Reformatory  and 
Industrial  Schools,  and  Criminal  Lunatics,  for 
England  and  Wales  for  1907. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  tlie 

Table. 

Board of 
Education. 

Mr.  Rundman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  Public  Inquiry, 
1908, into  Oxford  Street  (Church  of  England) 
School,  Swansea;  (1)  Notice  of  Inquiry  ;  (2) 
Mr. J.  A.  Hamilton's  Report;  (3)  Decision   of 
the  Board  of  Education. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Standing 
Orders. 

Mr.  Ellis reported  from  the  Select  Committee 
on  Standing  Orders several  Resolutions ;  which 
were  read,  as follow  : 

1.  That  in the  case  of  the  Aldershot  Gas  and Aldershot  Ga 

Water Bill, Petition for dispensing with Standing »*?<! W a t er 
Order  128  in  the  case  of  the  Petition  of  the  1 
London  and  South  Western  Railway  Company, 
the  said  Standing  Order  ought  to  be  dispensed 
with. 

2.  That  in the  case of  the  Aldershot  Gas  and Aldershot GaR 

Water Bill, Petition for dispensing with Standing
Order  128  in  the  case  of  the  Petition  of  the 
Camberley  Electric  Supply  Company,  the  said 
Standing  Order  ought to  be  dispensed  with. 

' 

W a t er 

3.  That  in  the  case  of  the  Central  London  Central  


Railway  Bill,  Petition  for  dispensing  with 
Standing  Order  128  in  the  case  of  the  Eccle-  K?nlway  

siastical  Commissioners  for  England,  the  said  

Standing  Order  ought  to  be  dispensed  with.  


4.  That  in  the  case  of  the  Edgware  and  Edgware and 
Hampstead Railway Bill, Petition for dispensing Hampstead^ 
with  Standing  Order  128 in the case of  the Peti-  dl  w ay  1  ' 
tion  of  the  Ecclesiastical  Commissioners  for 
England,  the  said  Standing  Order  ought to  be 
dispensed  with. 

5.  That  in  the  case  of  the  Great  Northern,  Great 

Great  Central,  and  Great  Eastern  Railways 
Bill, Petition for dispensing  with Standing Order an(j (jreat 
128  in  the case of  the  Petition  of  the  Waltham-  Eastern 
stow  Urban  District  Council,  the said  Standing  HaUwa.vs  Bnl-
Order  ought  to  be dispensed  with. 

e ^ t K tl 
' 

6.  That  in  the  case  of  the  Great  Western  Great  Western 

Railway  (General  Powers)  Bill,  Petition  for  Railway 
dispensing  with  Standing  Order  128 in  the  case 
of  the  Petition  of  Owners  and  Occupiers  of 
property  situate  at  Oldfield  Park,  Bath,  the 
said  Standing  Order  ought  to be  dispensed  with. 

7.  That  in  the  case  of  the  London  County  London 
Council  (Tramways  and  Improvements)  Bill, County 
Petition for  dispensing  with  Standing Order  128 (Tramways 
in  the  case  of  the  Petition  of  the  London  and  and  Improve-
South  Western  Railway  Company,  the  said  ments)  Bill. 
Standing  Order ought to  be  dispensed  with. 

8.  That  in the  case of  the North  Metropolitan  North 

Electric  Power  Supply  Bill,  Petition  for  dis-  Metropolitan 
pensing with  Standing  Order  128  in  the  case  of fowwSnpply 
the  Petition  of the  Walthamstow  Urban District  Bill. 
Council,  the  said  Standing  Order  ought  to  be 
dispensed  with. 

9.  That  in  the  case  of  the  Prestatyn  Urban  Prestatyn 
District  Council  Bill,  Petition  for  dispensing  Urban  District 
with  Standing  Order  128  in  the  case  of  the  Conncil BU1­
Petition  of  the  Ecclesiastical  Commissioners  for 
England,  the  said  Standing  Order  ought  to  be 
dispensed  with. 

10.  That in  the  case  of  the  York  Town  and  York  Town 
Blackwater  Gas  (Electric  Lighting,  &c.)  Bill,  and  Black " 
Petition for dispensing  with  Standing  Order  128  ^^tric3 
in  the  case  of  the  Petition  of  the  Camberley  Lighting,  &c.) 
Electric  Supply  Company,  the  said  Standing  BiU-
Order ought to  be dispensed  with. 

11.  That  in the  case of  the Hull  and  Barnsley  Hull  and 
for  dispensing  with  Barnsley 

Railway  Bill,  Petition 
Standing  Order  128  in the  case  of  the  Petition  R a i l w ay  BilL 
of  George  Robert  Jackson  and  others,  the  said 
Standing  Order  ought  to be  dispensed  with. 

12.  That in  the case  of  the  Kilkenny,  Castle-  Kilkenny, 

comer, and  Athy  Railway,  Petition  for  Bill, the 
Standing  Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed  with; 
that  the  parties  be  permitted  to  proceed  with 
their  Bill. 

awayf 

The  said  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second 

time, were  agreed  to. 

Sir  William Brampton  Gurdon  reported  from  Selection 
the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had  (Standing 
added  to  the  Standing  Committee  on  Scottish 
Bills  the  following  Fifteen  Members  (in respect  standing 
of  the  Temperance  (Scotland)  Bill)  : —  Earl  Committee. 

 


No.  LL.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

2nd March. 

35 

Temperance 
(•Scotland) 
Bill. 

Private 
Legislation 
Procedure 
(Scotland) 
Act, 1899 
.(Commis­
sioners.) 

Winter toii,  Mr.  James  Hope,  Sir Frederick  Ban-
bury, Mr.  Hicks  Beach,  Mr.  Gibbs,  Mr. James  into  the  Committee  of  Supply. 
Mason, Viscount Helmsley,  Mr. Fell,  Mr.  Stanier, 
Earl  of  Ronaldshay,  Mr.  Charles Roberts,  Mr. 
Leif  Jones,  Mr.  William  Jones,  Mr.  Montagu,
and Mr.  Richardson. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Civil  Services  and Revenue  Departments  

Supplementary  Estimates,  1908-9.  


The  House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself  Supply, 

Sir William Brampton Gurdon farther reported 
from the  Committee ;  That  they had  discharged 
the  following  Member  from  the  Parliamentary 
Panel  of  Members  of  this House  appointed  to 
act  as  Commissioners  in  pursuance  of  the  pro­
visions  of  the  Private  Legislation  Procedure 
(Scotland)  Act,  1899 :—Captain  Murray  ;  and 
had  appointed  in substitution :  Sir Henry  Craik. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Class  VII.  


Motion  made, and  Question  proposed,  That a 
supplementary  sum  not  exceeding  £100,000 
be granted  to  His  Majesty, to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course  of  payment  during 
the year  ending  on the 31st  day  of  March  1909 
for  Contributions  in  Aid  of  Expenses  under  the 
Unemployed  Workmen  Act,  1905: 

And  it  being  a quarter  of  an hour  after  Eight 
of  the  clock,  further  proceeding  was  postponed 
without  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing 
Order  No.  4. 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being  Agrarian and 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools Bill. 
Bill  62. 

Mr.  Tyson  Wilson, supported  by  Mr.  Bower-
man,  Mr.  Gill,  Mr.  Jenkins,  Mr.  Jowett,  Mr. 
Parker,  Mr.  Thomas Frederick  Richards,  Mr. 
Summerbell,  and  Mr.  Walsh,  presented  a  Bill  to 
amend  the  Law  relating  to  the  Pawning  of 
put,  That  this  House  regards  with  disapproval 
Tools,  implements,  instruments,  or  appliances 
the action  of  the  Irish  Executive  in  enforcing ^xreland.) 
used  in  connection  with  any  manual  trade  or  the  Act  of  Edward  III.  against  persons  in 
handicraft:  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be  Ireland  charged  with  offences  of  an  agrarian 
read  a second  time  upon  Tuesday  next  ;  and  to  and political  character, and  against  the  freedom 
be  printed. 
of  the newspaper  press  of  the country, a  system  

under which  Mr. James  P.  Farrell,  a Member  of  

Mr.  Hudson,  supported  by  Mr.'  Wardle,  Mr.  this House,  is at  present imprisoned  in  Ireland;  

Railways
(Eight  Hours) john  Taylor, Mr. Summerbell, Mr. William Thome,and that  it considers  that  all  such  cases  should 
Mr- Joyce,  Mr.  Nannetti, Mr.  Sheehan,  Mr.  Cur- be  brought  before  the ordinary  tribunals of  the 
ran, Mr. Bell, and  Mr.  Chiozza Money, presented  country,  where  evidence  on behalf  of the  accused 
a  Bill  to  provide  for  the  establishment  of  a  can be  produced—(Sir  Walter Nugent) ; 
working  day  of  Eight  Hours  for  certain  grades 
employed  on  Railways:  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be  read  a second  time  upon  Friday 
the  2nd day of  April  next;  and to  be  printed. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the/Captain  Donelan, 

Bill  63

Asylums 
Officers' 
Superannua­
tion  Bill. 

Bill  64. 

Sir  William  Collins,  supported  by  Colonel 
Lockwood,  Sir  Francis  Sharp  Powell,  Sir  John 
Batty  Tuke, Dr. Rutherford, Mr.  Charles Roberts,
and  Mr. Ramsay Macdonald,  presented  a Bill  to 
provide for  Superannuation allowances  to officers 
and  servants  employed  in  public  Asylums  for 
the insane  in  Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  and  to 
make  other  relative  provisions  :  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Thursday  the  11th  day  of  this  instant  March  ; 
and  to be  printed. 

Bill 65. 

Mr.  Munro  Ferguson,  supported  by  Sir John 
Nurses 
(Registration)  Dickson-Poynder,  Sir  George  Robertson,  Mr. 
Bill. 
Rainy,  Mr.  Crooks, Dr.  Rutherford,  Mr. Jowett,
Mr.  Cowan,  Mr.  Fell,  Sir  Luke  White,  Mr. 
Ramsay  Macdonald,  and  Mr.  David  Sheehy,
presented  a Bill  to  regulate  the registration  of 
Nurses :  And  the same was ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time  upon  Tuesday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Mr. Burns  reported  from  the  Committee  of 
Supply 
fist  March]  Supply  of  the  1st day  of  this  instant  March  a
Report. 

Resolution;  which  was read,  as followeth : 

Yeas, 

I Mr. Patrick  O'Brien : 

Tellers for the /"Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

^Master  of  Etibank : 

So it  passed  in the  Negative. 

81. 

|  142. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Vehicular 
t- , 

Second  Reading of  the  Vehicular  Traffic (Regu-
lation of  Speed)  Bill; 

o£ Speed"°Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Salmon, 
Second  Reading  of  the  Salmon,  Trout,  and £rout> *nd 
t»-
•<  -rr  i 
River  1 weed  fisheries  Hill; 

River  Tweed 
Fisheries  Bin. 

n ' li 

m 

. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

Ordered,  That  a  Select  Committee  be  ap-  House of 
pointed  to  control  the  arrangements  for  the.(Jo™m°ns 
Kitchen  and Refreshment Rooms  in the  Depart- Refreshment1 
ment  of  the  Serjeant-at-Arms  attending  this  Rooms.) 
House. 

Old Age 
Pensions. 

Civil  Services  and Revenue  Departments 
Supplementary  Estimates,  1908-9. 

Class  VI. 

That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding 
£910,000 be  granted  to  His  Majesty, to  defray 
the charge  which will  come in course  of payment 
during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of 
March  1909  for  the  payment  of  Old  Age 
Pensions  in  the  United  Kingdom,  and  for 
Administrative  Expenses  in  connection  there­
with. 

The  said  Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time, was agreed  to.  


VOL.  164.  


Ordered,  That  the  Committee  do  consist  of 

Seventeen  Members. 

The  Committee  was accordingly  nominated  of 
Mr.  Barlow,  Mr.  Barnard,  Sir  Henry  Dalziel,
Mr. Fenwick, Viscount  Helmsley, Major  General 
Sir  Ivor  Herbert,  Mr.  John  Deans  Hope,  Sir 
Alfred Jacoby,  Colonel  Lockwood,  Mr.  Lonsdale,
Mr. M'Killop,  Mr. Power,  Mr. William  Redmond, 
Sir  Edward  Strachey, Mr.  William Thome,  Mr. 
Walrond, and  Mr.  Osmond  Williams. 

Ordered, That  the  Committee  have  power  to 

send for persons, papers, and records. 

Ordered, That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee.—(Mr. Joseph Pease.)

F 2 

 
36 

llth—12th—mil

March. 

1909. 

[No.  19. 

Supply. 

Postponed  proceeding  on  Question,  That  a 
supplementary  sum not  exceeding  £100,000  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge 
which  will come in course of payment  during the 
year  ending  on the  31st day  of  March  1909 for 
Contributions  in  Aid  of  Expenses  under  the 
Unemployed  Workmen  Act,  1905, resumed. 

Question  again proposed  : 

And  it  being  after  Eleven  of  the clock,  and 
objection  being  taken  to  further  proceeding, the 
Chairman  left  the  Chair to  make  his Report  to 
the  House. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman  acquainted  the  House  that 
the  Committee  had made  Progress  in the matter 
to them  referred ;  and  that  he was  directed  to 
move, That  the  Committee  may have leave to sit 
again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

Buildings and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Houses of 
1'arliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

And  then  the  House, having  continued  to 
sit  till  eight  minutes  after  Eleven  of the 
clock, adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

[No.  12.] 

Wednesday, 3rd March  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an  hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

Private  Bill 
Petitions 
[Zordg]
(Standing 
Orders  not 
complied 
jvith.) 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from  one of the  Examiners of Petitions for 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the  Petition 
for the  following  Bill, originating  in  the  Lords, 
the  Standing  Orders  have  not  been  complied 
with, viz.  :— 

Torquay  and Paignton  Tramways 

[Lords]. 
Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  referred  to the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

Private  Bill 
Petitions 
(Standing 
Orders not 
complied 
with.) 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the  Petition 
for  the  following  Bill  the  Standing  Orders 
have not been complied  with, viz.  :— 

London  County  Council  (Tramways  and 

Improvements). 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  referred to  the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

Great Central
Railway
(Various
Powers) Bill,

  to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the  Great  Central  Railway  

(Various  Powers)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  

>


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Great 

Second  Reading  of  the  Great  Northern,  Great Q™^eAtrai 
' 
Central,  and  Great  Eastern  Railways  Bill; 

and^reat

a

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second time ®a?,tern 

Railways  Bill, 

tit 

i 

i 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pontypridd  


Second  Reading  of  the  Pontypridd  Water  Bill;   Water  Bil1­

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time  


to-morrow. 


A  Bill to confer further powers on the Watford  Watford  and 
and  Edgware  Railway  Company;  to  extend  S ^ B i i l  . 
the  time  limited  by  the  Watford  and  Edgware 
Railway  Act,  1906,  for  the  purchase  of certain 
lands;  to  authorise  agreements  between  the 
Watford  and  Edgware  Railway  Company  and 
other  companies,  and  for  other  purposes,  was 
presented,  and read the first time  ;  and referred 
to  the Examiners  of  Petitions  for Private  Bills. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public 

read;  and ordered to lie upon  the Table. 

r 

—V1™"8­
Vide  First  

Report. 


Mr.  Buchanan  presented,  —- Return  to  an  East  India  

Address  to  His  Majesty,  dated  the 29th day  of  (Prosecutions  

July  in  the  last  Session  of  Parliament,  for  a ™ Speeches 
Return  of  Prosecutions  for  Seditious  Speeches  No. 50. 
and  Writings  which  have  been  instituted  in 
India  since  the 1st day of  January 1907, showing 
the  names  and  descriptions  of  the  persons 
charged,  the courts which tried  them, the precise 
character of the charge, and the decision  in  each 
case. 

&c.) 


Ordered, That  the said Return  do lie  upon the 


Table;  and be  printed.  


Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Earnings and 

Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  an  Inquiry  by  Hours 
the Board of  Trade into the  Earnings  and  Hours
n q m r y
of  Labour  of  Workpeople  of  the  United  King­
dom.  I.  Textile  Trades  in  1906. 

' 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Superannua­
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  o f t i on  Act, 1887. 
Treasury  Minute,  dated  26th  February  1909, 
under the Superannuation  Act,  1887, granting a 
retired  allowance  to  Mr.  Henry  Wakefield, 
Overseer  at the  Hull  Post  Office. 

Copy  of  Treasury  Minute,  dated  26th  Feb-  Superannua­
ruary 1909, under the Superannuation Act, 1887,tion  Aot>1887­
granting  a  retired  allowance  to  Mr.  William 
Thompson,  Overseer  at the  Hull  Post  Office. 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That there  be laid  before  this  House  Foreign 
a  Return  of  monthly  accounts  relating  to  the  Trade  and 
Trade and Commerce of certain Foreign Countries
ommerce-
and British  Possessions.—(Mr. Churchill.) 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon  vehicular 

Monday  next,  the Vehicular  Traffic (Regulation  Traffic 
of  Speed)  Bill was read, and discharged. 

s ? e f d)  BU"  ° f 

Ordered, That the Bill be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Monday  the  22nd  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

Sir  William Brampton  Gurdon  reported  from  Selection 
the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had  (Standing 
nominated  the  following  Members  to  serve  on  Committees.) 
the three Standing Committees for  the considera­
tion of  all  Public  Bills,  not relating  exclusively 
to  Scotland,  which  may  be  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee:— 

 


No. 12.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

3rd March, 	

3 7 

Standing  Committee  A. 

Eresby,  Mr.  Walsh,  Mr.  Tyson  Wilson,  Earl 
Winterton, and  Mr.  Samuel Young. 


Table. 

Mr.  Agnew,  Sir  William  Anson,  Mr.  Ashley, 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Sir  William Brampton Gurdon further reported  Standing  


Standing 
Committee A.  Mr. Attorney General, Mr. Baldwin, Mr. Barrdn,  from  the  Committee ;  That  they  had nominated  Committee A. 
Mr.  Beck,  Mr.  Bennett, Mr. Boland, Mr. Brams- Standing  Committee  A  as  the  Committee  on 
don, Mr.  Byles,  Mr. Evelyn  Cecil,  Mr. Cleland,  which  Government  Bills  shall  not  have  pre-
Captain  Clive, Mr.  Clough, Mr. Thomas  Larimer cedence. 
Corbett,  Sir Edwin  Cornwall,  Mr. Herbert  Craig, 
Mr. Crossley, Mr. Devlin, Mr. Fell, Mr.  Secretary 
Gladstone,  Mr.  Gordon,  Mr.  Goulding,  Mr.  

Gwynn,  Mr.  William  Edwin  Harvey,  Mr.  Cecil  

Harmsworth,  Mr. Hart- Davies, Sir  Ivor  Herbert,  Mr.  Stuart-Wortley  reported  from  the  Chair-  Standing 
Mr.  Hodge,  Mr.  Hudson, Mr.  Joyce, Sir  George  men's  Panel;  That  they had  appointed  Mr. John 
Kekewich,  Mr.  Lambton,  Mr.  Lehmann,  Mr.  William  Wilson  to  act  as  Chairman  of  the pang]™e"s 
Lynch,  Mr.  Mac Caw,  Mr.  Mackarness,  Mr.  Standing  Committee  on  Scottish  Bills,  and 
M'Killop,  Mr.  Marnham,  Mr.  James  Murray,  Mr.  Stuart-Wortley  to  act  as  Chairman  of 
Mr.  Myer,  Mr.  Napier,  Mr.  Neiodegate,  Mr.  Standing  Committee  A . 
()'Shaughnessy,  Sir  Gilbert  Parker,  Mr.  Peel,  Mr.  Stuart- Wortley further reported  from  the 
Mr.  William  Priestley,  Mr.  Rainy,  Sir  John  Chairmen's  Panel;  That  they  had  agreed  to 
Randies,  Mr.  Thomas  Richards,  Mr.  Thomas  the following  Resolution :  That  any  Member  of 
Frederick  Richards,  Sir  George Robertson, Earl  the  Chairmen's  Panel  be  and  he  is  hereby 
of  Ronaldshay,  Dr.  Rutherford,  Mr.  Herbert  empowered  to  ask  any  other  Member  of  the 
Samuel,  Mr.  Scott, Mr.  Smyth, Mr.  Stanier, Mr.  Chairmen's  Panel  to  take  his  place  in  case  of 
David  Alfred  Thomas, Mr.  George  Thome,  Mr.  necessity. 
Vaughan-Davies, Mr.  Laurence  Waldron,  Mr. 
John  Ward, Mr.  Whitehead, Mr.  Wiles, and  Mr. 
Osmond  Williams. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

leave  to  move  the 
Mr.  Arthur  Allen,  Mr.  Godfrey  Barings  Mr.  Adjournment  of  the  House  for the purpose  of 
Standing 
Committee B.  Beauchamp,  Mr.  Black,  Mr.  Bridgeman,  Mr.  discussing  a  definite  matter  of  urgent  public 

in  his  place  and  asked 

Standing  Committee  B. 

Mr.  Condon, Member for  East  Tipperary, rose  Adjournment, 

James  Falconer,  Esquire,  Member  for  the  New  Member 

Bright,  Mr.  Butcher,  Mr.  Brotherton, Viscount  importance, viz., the arrest of Mr.  W . P. Murphy, Arrest  of 
Castlereagli,  Sir  Frederick  Cawley,  Lord  Robert of  Clonmel,  by  the  Irish  Executive  ;  and  the Mr.  W.  P. 
Cecil,  Mr.  Cobbold, Mr.  Cochrane, Dr.  Cooper,  pleasure  of  the  House  having  been  signified, MurPhy' 
Mr.  Charles  Corbett,  Sir  Henry  Cotton,  Mr.  the  Motion  stood  over,  under  Standing  Order 
Cowan,  Mr.  Charles  Craig,  Mr.  Churchill, Mr.  No.  10,  till  a  quarter of  an  hour  after  Eight 
David  Davies,  Mr.  Ellis  Davies,  Mr.  Akers- of  the clock  this  evening. 
Douglas, Mr.  Charles Duncan, Mr.  Ferens,  Mr. 
Flynn,  Mr.  Gill,  Mr.  Haddock,  Mr.  George 
Hardy,  Mr.  Leverton  Harris,  Mr.  Harwood,  County  of  Forfar,  was sworn. 
Mr.  James  Haslam,  Mr.  Lewis  Haslam,  Mr. 
Hazleton,  Mr.  Higham,  Sir  Clement Hill,  Mr.  Mr.  Hobhouse  presented  a  Bill  to  enable  a Secretary  of 
William  Jones,  Mr.  Kettle,' Mr.  Lane-Fox,  Sir  second  Secretary  to  be  appointed  for  the  Board 
Maurice  Levy,  Sir  Francis  Lowe,  Mr.  Lloyd  of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries:  And  the  same a^FishSes 
Morgan,  Mr.  M1,Arthur,  Mr.  Patrick  Meehan,  was ordered to be read a second time  to-morrow  ;  Bill, 
Mr.  Mooney,  Captain  Morrison* Bell,  Mr.  Nan- and to  be printed.	 
netti,  Mr.  Nicholls,  Mr.  Nolan,  Mr.  Nussey,

Mr.  O'Malley,  Sir  Francis  Powell,  Dr.  Pollard,

Mr.  Charles Price, Mr. Renwick, Mr. Richardson,  Mr.  Findlay,  supported  by  Mr.  Claude Hay,  Nurses 
Mr.  Ridsdale,  Mr.  John Robertson, Mr.  Walter  Sir  Arthur  Bignold, and  Mr.  Ainsworth,  pre-  (Registration) 
Roch,  Mr.  Rogers,  Mr. Rose,  Dr.  Shipman,  Mr.  sented  a  Bill  to  regulate the qualifications and 
Solicitor  General,  Mr.  Austin  Taylor,  Mr. John  registration  of  trained  Nurses:  And  the same 
Taylor, Mr.  Theodore Taylor,  Mr.  Tennant,  and  was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Thursday  the  18th  day  of  this  instant  March; 
Mr.  Cathcart Wason. 	
and to be  printed. 

Bill 66. 

sworn. 

1 

' 

Standing  Committee  C. 

Mr.  Gill,  supported  by  Mr.  Shackleton, Mr.  Death 

Tyson  Wilson,  Mr.  Barnes,  Mr.  Parker,  Mr. ^harTs^fiili 
Steadman,  and  Mr. Arthur  Henderson,  presented  (  BnTfiS" 
a  Bill  to  amend  the  Births  and  Deaths  Regis-
tration  Act,  1836,  for  the  purpose  of  reducing 
the  charges  for  Death  Certificates  in  certain 
cases :  And  the  same  was ordered  to  be read  a 
second  time  upon  Wednesday  next;  and  to  be 

Mr. Ainsworth, Mr. Alden,  Mr.  Charles  Allen, 
Standing 
Committee  C.  Mr. Hugh Barrie,  Mr.  Beckett,  Sir John Bethell, 
Mr.  Bowles, Mr. Brace,  Mr.  Branch, Mr.  Burns, 
Mr.  Carlile, Mr.  Cheetham,  Sir  William  Collins, 
Mr.  Cullinan, Mr.  Timothy Davies,  Mr.  Dick-
inson, Sir  Frederick  Dixon-Hartland,  Sir James 
Duckworth,  Mr.  Hastings  Duncan,  Captain 
Faber,  Mr.  Findlay,  Sir  Walter  Foster,  Mr. 
Glover,  Mr.  Guest,  Mr.  Robert Harcourt,  Mr.  printed. 
Harmood-Banner,  Mr.  Harrison-Broadley,  Mr. 
Ordered,  That  leave  be given  to  bring  in  a  Hours of 
Hayden, Mr. Healy,  Mr.  Holt,  Mr.  Howard,  Sir 
John Jardine,  Mr.  Kavanagh,  Mr.  Long,  Mr.  Bill to  restrict  the  Hours  of  Labour  of  Surface- Labour 
M'Laren,  Mr.  Jeremiah Mac Veagh,  Sir Philip  men  at collieries  called upon  to  work  seven  days 
Magnus,  ViscoUnt  Morpeth,  Mr.  Masterman,  per  week  to  eight  hours  per  day :  And  that  o 
Mr.  Morrell,  Mr.  John  Murphy,  Mr.  William  Mr.  Summerbell, Mr.  Arthur  Henderson,  Mr. 
Nicholson,  Mr.  William  Pearce,  Mr.  Owen  Hall,  Mr.  John  Taylor,  Mr.  O'Grady,  Mr. 
Philipps, Earl Percy,  Mr.  Raphael, Mr. William  Walsh, Mr.  Glover,  Mr.  William  Thome,  Mr. 
Redmond,  Mr.  Charles  Roberts, Sir Joseph  Cornp-Parker,  Mr.  Tyson  Wilson,  and  Mr.  Thomas 
ton-Rickett, Mr. Seaverns, Mr.  Smeaton, Mr. AbelRichards do prepare  and  bring it in. 
Smith, Mr. Albert Stanley, Sir Edward Strachey, 
Mr.  Thornton,  Mr.  Verney,  Mr.  Vivian,  Mr.  Mr.  Summerbell  accordingly  presented  a  Bill  Hours of 
Henry  Walker,  Mr.  Warner,  Sir  George  White,  to restrict  the  Hours of  Labour  of  Surfacemen  (Saubrf^emen) 
Mr.  Walton, Mr.  Whitbread,  Lord  Willoughby  deat collieries  called  upon to  work  seven  days per  Bill. 

acemen.) 

VOL.  164. 

F  3	 

Bill 69. 

38 

llth—12th—mil 

March. 

1909. 

[No.  19. 

Business of 
the  House 
(Supply.) 

week to eight  hours per  day  :  And  the  same was 
read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second  time  upon  Wednesday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being 
put, That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Business  of 
Supply, if under discussion  when the  Business  is 
postponed  this  day,  be  resumed  and  proceeded 
with, though  opposed,  after  the  interruption  of 
Business—(The  Prime  Minister) ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Eight; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the/ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Master of  Elibank: 

| 2i225. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the/Mr.  George Roberts, 

) 
I Mr.  Charles  Duncan  :  J 

Yeas, 


70. 

Tellers for the f Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

\Mr.  Herbert Lewis ; 

159. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  claimed, 

That  the  Original  Question  be now put. 

Original Question put accordingly,  and agreed  Original 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
And  it  being  after a quarter-past  Eight  of  the  p ^ ^ t e  T 

clock,  and  leave having  been  given  to  move the  0
Adjournment of  the House under  Standing Order 
No.  10,  further  proceeding  was  postponed 
without  Question  put. 

e  a

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being  Adjournment 

Tellers for  the f Lord  Balcarres, 

1 
(Lord  Edmund Talbot-.  J 

Noes, 

68. 

put,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn  - ( M r  . 
Condon) ; 

v

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  House, according  to Order,  resolved itself 

into the  Committee of  Ways  and  Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That,  towards  making  good  the 
Supply  granted  to  His  Majesty  for  the  Service 
of  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day of  March 
1909,  the  sum  of  £910,000  be  granted  out  of 
the  Consolidated  Fund  of  the  United  Kingdom. 
(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

Resolution  to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had come  to  a  Resolution. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left.  

Tellers  for the J Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien,


Yeas, 

I. Mr.  Boland: 

Tellers  for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

| Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 


So  it passed  in the  Negative.  


i 

J  132. 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being  Kates 
proposed,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House,  (London.) 
there  is  urgent  need  for  such  reform  of  the 
government  of  London  as  shall  enable  the 
burden  of  the  Rates  to  be  equally  distributed 
over  the  whole  area  of  the  county  —  (Mr. 
Wedgwood Benn):—And  a Debate arising  there­
upon ; 

j ^  r 
Standing 
Order No.  10.) 
Arrest of 
Mr. W.  P. 
Murphy. 


Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

And  it being  Eleven  of  the  clock,  the  Debate 

morrow. 

stood  adjourned. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may  have  leave  to 
sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Supply. 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into the  Committee  of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.)  

Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments  

Supplementary  Estimates,  1908-9.  


Class  VII.  

1.  Motion  made, and  Question  proposed, That 
a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding  £100,000 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty, to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course  of  payment  during 
the year  ending on the  31st  day of  March  1909 
for  Contributions  in  Aid  of  Expenses  under  the 
Unemployed  Workmen  Act,  1905  : 

Whereupon  Motion  made,  and  Question  pro­
posed,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £99,900  be 
granted  for  the  said  Service—-(Mr.  Ramsay
Macdonald):—Debate  arising ; 

Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place and claimed  to move, That the Question  be 
now  put. 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question put, That  the  Question  be  now put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the/ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

J  148. 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 
Tellers for  the/Mr.  George Roberts, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Charles Duncan : 

93« 
Question  put  accordingly,  That  a  sum  not 
exceeding  £99,900  be  granted  for  the  said 
Service. 

} 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Police 
Second  Reading of  the Police (Weekly  Holiday) (W^My 
j g . jj  _ 

®

J 

v 

J

  Holiday)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Postponed  proceeding  resumed. 

Supply. 

Class  II. 

2.  Motion  made, and Question  proposed, That 
a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding  £10  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge 
which will  come  in  course  of  payment  during 
the year  ending  on the 31st day  of  March  1909 
for  the  Salaries and Expenses  in  the  Offices  of 
the  House  of  Commons  : 

Whereupon  Motion  made, and  Question  pro­
posed, That  a sum not  exceeding  £5  be  granted 
for the  said  Service.—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

Thursday,  4th March  1909 : 


Question  put.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the f Sir  Frederick Banbury,  1  

J 
]

j 

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

\ Viscount  Helmsley: 

\Mr. Herbert  Lewis: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

45. 

160. 


Original  Question put, and agreed  to.  


Class  II. 

3.  £610 (supplementary sum), the year  ending 
on the  31st day  of  March  1909, for  the  Salaries 
the  Department  of  His 
and  Expenses  of 
Majesty's  Secretary  of  State for  the  Colonies. 

4.  £10  (supplementary  sum), the  year  ending  

on the  31st day  of  March  1909, for  the  Salaries  




 


No. 12.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

'3rd—ith  March. 

39 
Ordered, That  the  said  Return  do lie upon  the  


and Expenses of the Department of the  Registrar 
General  of Births,  &c.  in Scotland. 

Class  III. 

5.  £4,500 

(supplementary  sum),  the  year 
ending  on  the  31st day  of  March  1909, for the 
Salaries  and  Expenses  of  the  Office  of  the 
Inspector  of  Reformatories,  and  for  the  main­
tenance  of  Juvenile  Offenders  in  Reformatory, 
Industrial,  and  Day  Industrial  Schools,  and 
under  the  Youthful  Offenders  Act,  in  Great 
Britain. 

6.  £5  (supplementary  sum),  the  year  ending 
on the  31st day  of  March  1909, for  the  Salaries 
and  Expenses  of  the  Lord  Advocate's  Depart­
ment, and other  Law  Charges,  and  the  Salaries 
and  Expenses  of  the  Courts of  Law  and  Justice 
in  Scotland. 

Class  IV. 
7.  £610,  the year  ending  on  the  31st day  of 
March  1909, for a Grant  to  the Merthyr County 
School  in  lieu  of  a  Grant  under  the  Welsh 
Intermediate  Education  Act,  1889. 

Class  I. 
8.  £10  (supplementary  sum), the year  ending 
on  the  31st  day  of  March  1909,  for  Grants in 
Aid  of  Harbours. 

Revenue  Departments. 

9.  £4,000 

(supplementary  sum),  the  year 
ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1909,  for  the 
Salaries  and  Expenses  of  the  Customs  Depart­
ment. 

Resolutions  to be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had come to  several  Resolutions. 
Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may  have  leave  to 
sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan­
ning, &c. Bill; 
; r 

Ordered, That  th6  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this  day. 

Customs  and 
Inland 
lievenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  $Jill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this day. 

Buildings  and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

' 

;  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the  Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill; 

' Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this day. 

Table ;  and  be  printed.  


And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of 
the  clock  on  Wednesday  evening,  Mr. 
Deputy  Speaker  adjourned  the  House 
without  Question  put,  pursuant  to  the 
Standing  Order,  it  being  then  seventeen 
minutes  after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on 
Thursday  morning, till  this day. 

[No.  13.] 

Thursday,  4th March  1909. 

The House  met  at a quarter  of  an  hour  

before  Three  of the  clock.  


TH E  Clerk  at the  Table  informed  the  House  Mr.  Speaker's 

of the  unavoidable  absence of  Mr. Speaker,  Absence, 

through  indisposition,  from  this  day's  Sitting: 
—Whereupon  Mr.  Emmolt,  the  Chairman  of 
Ways  and  Means,  proceeded  to  the Table,  and, 
after  Prayers,  took  the  Chair  as  Deputy   p r a y e r s. 
Speaker,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—  Private Bills 

Report  from  one of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  (Standing 
for  Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the °rredvc[0sUslv 
following  Bill,  referred  on  the  First  Reading inquired fnto 
thereof,  the  Standing  Orders  not  previously  complied 
inquired  into, and  which  are  applicable  thereto, WIth-) 
have  been  complied  with, viz.  :— 

Gas Light  and  Coke  Company  Bill.  


Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a  second time. 


Mr. Deputy  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—  Provisional 
Report from  one.of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  Order  Bills 
for  Private^BMs,  That  in  the  case  of  the ^ e S^ a n d i D8 
following  Bill,  referred  on  the  First  Reading  applicable.") 
thereof,  no  Standing  Orders  are  applicable, 
v i z . :— 

Kirkwall  Water  Provisional  Order  Bill. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  (under  Section  9  of 
the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland) 
Act,  1899)  be read  a second  time upon  Monday 
next. 

Mr. Deputy  Speaker  laid  upon the  Table,—private Bills 

Report  from  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for [ Lords.']
Private  Bills, That  in  respect  of  the  Bills  com­
prised  in  the list  reported  by  the  Chairman  of 
Ways  and  Means,  as intended  to  originate  in 
the  House of  Lords, they  have  certified  that the 
Standing  Orders  have  not  been  complied  with 
in the following  case,  viz.:— 

Torquay  and  Paignton  Tramways  Bill. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—  Remission  of 

Report  from one of  the Examiners  of  Petitions  Surcharges 
for  Private  Bills, pursuant to the  Order  of  the  ^ a n S f '  " 
House  of  the  23rd  day of  February  last, That  Orders 
in  the  case  of  the  following  Bill  the  Standing jW^able^ 
Orders  which  are  applicable  thereto  have  not complied 
been  complied  with, viz. :— 

with.) 

Houses of 
Parliament. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this day. 

Foreign 
Trade  and 
Commerce. 

No. 49. 

Mr.  Churchill presented,—Return to an Order, 
dated  the  3rd  day of  this instant  March, for  a 
Return  relative  to  Foreign  Trade  and  Com­
merce. 

VOL.  164. 

Remission  of Surcharges  (Dublin)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  referred  to  the 

Select Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Derwent 
Second  Reading  of  the  Derwent  Valley  Water  ^ i l e  y  Water 
Board  Bill;  

Boarf   M L 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of the  clock. 
F  4 

40 

llth—12th—mil 

March.
1909. 

[No.  19. 

Glamorgan 
Water  Board 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the  Glamorgan Water  Board 
Bill; 

Copy  of  further  Correspondence  relating  to  Nigeria. 

Railway  Construction  in  Nigeria. 

Copy  of  Report  to  the  respective  Parliaments  South  Africa, 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 
upon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of  the  clock. 

of  the  Delegates  to  the  South  African  Con­
vention,  1908-9, with  Copy  of  the  Draft  South 
Africa  Union  Act. 

Oldham 
Corporation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Oldham  Corporation 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time, 
upon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of the  clock. 

Aldershot  Gas
and Water
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Aldershot  Gas  and 
Water  Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of  the  clock. 

Great  Central 
Railway 
(Various 
Powers)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Great  Central  Railway 
(Various  Powers)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Pontypridd 
Water  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Seeond  Reading  of  the  Pontypridd  Water  Bill; 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an hour 
after Eight  of the  clock. 

Kilkenny, 
Castlecomer, 
and  Athy 
Railway  Bill. 

A  Bill  for making  a  railway  in  the  Counties 
of  Kilkenny,  Queen's  County,  and  Kildare,  to 
be called  the  Kilkenny,  Castlecomer,  and  Athy 
Railway,  and for  other purposes,  was presented, 
and  read  the  first  time;  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide First 
Report. 
National 
Education 
(Ireland.) 

National 
Education 
(Ireland.) 

National 
Education 
(Ireland.) 

Irish  Land 
Commission 
(Proceedings.) 

Emigration 
Statistics 
(Ireland.) 

Mines  (Royal 
Commission.) 

Several Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read ;  and ordered  to  lie upon the  Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com­
mand,— Copy  of  Appendix  to  the  Seventy-
fourth Report  of  the  Commissioners  of  National 
Education  in  Ireland, being for  the year  1907-8. 
Section  I. 

Copy  of  Appendix  to  the  Seventy-fourth 

Report  of  the  Commissioners  of  National  Edu­
cation  in  Ireland,  being  for  the  year  1907-8. 
Section  II. 

Copy  of  Appendix 

to  the  Seventy-fourth 

Report  of  the  Commissioners  of  National  Edu­
cation  in  Ireland,  being  for  the  year  1907-8. 
Section  III. 

Copy  of  Return  of  Proceedings  of  the  Irish 
Land  Commission  -under  the  Land  Law  Acts, 
the  Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts,  1883-91,  and  the 
Land  Purchase  Acts,  during  the  month  of 
January  1909. 

Copy  of Emigration  Statistics  of  Ireland  for 

the year  1908. 

Ordered, That the said  Papers do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Reports  of  an 
Inquiry  on  behalf  of  the  Royal  Commission  on 
Mines  into  the  ventilation  of  Coal  Mines  and 
the methods of  examining for  Firedamp. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Colonial 
Reports 
(Miscel­
laneous.) 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Report,  No.  57  (Uganda, 
Report  by  the  Governor  on a Tour  through  the 
Eastern  Province). 

Copy  of  Report  of  the  Advisory  Committee  Tropical 
for  the  Tropical  Diseases  Research  Fund  for  Diseases 
Research 
, , 
, „AV. 
p^d. 
the year  1908. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Papers  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Merchant 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Merchant Shipping^ 
Shipping  Advisory  Committee  respecting  Line- Appliances^ 
throwing  Appliances  for  use  on  Ships  in cases 
of  Shipwreck  or  distress  at  sea,  with  Appen­
dices. 

Ordered, That the  said Paper do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Treaty  Series 
1909.) 

His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Agreement  ( N o - 
between  the  United  Kingdom  and  Colombia 
providing  for  the  settlement  by  Arbitration  of 
certain  classes  of  questions  which  may  arise 
between  the  two  Governments.  Signed  at 
Bogota,  30th  December  1908. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc-  Church 

tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  was  laid  upon Temporalities 
the Table by  the  Clerk  of  the  House 2—Copy 
of  Report  of  the  Comptroller  and  Auditor 
General  upon  the  Account  of  the  Irish  Land 
Commission  in respect  of  Church  Temporalities 
in  Ireland  for the year  ended  31st March  1908 ; 
together  with  the  Account  for  the above  period, 
and  that  from  26th  July  1869 (the  date  of  the 
Irish  Church  Actj  to the  31st  March  1908. 
Ordered, That  the  said Paper be  printed. 

5 1 

Mr.  Chiozza Money, supported  by  Mr.  Alden,  continuation 
Mr.  Ellis  Davies,  Mr.  Robert  Harcourt,  Mr.  Schools  Bill. 
Cecil  Harmsworth,  Mr.  Arthur  Henderson, Mr.  Bill 70. 
Ramsay  Macdonald,  Mr.  Henry  Walker,  and 
Mr. John Ward,  presented  a Bill  to  provide  for 
the  establishment  of  compulsory  Continuation 
Schools  :  And  the same was ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time  upon  Friday  the  23rd  day  of 
April  next;  and to  be  printed. 

Mr.  Churchill presented  a  Bill  to  constitute  London 
the  London  County  Council  the  purchasing Electric^^ 
J. * 
authority  in  respect  of  the  undertakings  of 
certain  Electric  Lighting  Companies in  London 
to which  the  London  Electric  Supply  Act, 1908, 
does  not  apply,  and  for  purposes  incidental 
thereto  :  And  the  same was  ordered  to be  read 
a second  time to-morrow  ;  and to  be  printed. 

Mr.  Bramsdon,  supported  by  Mr.  Godfrey Oaths  Bill. 
Baring,  Sir  George Scott Robertson, Mr.  Gulland,  Bill 72. 
Sir  Thomas  Whittaker,  Mr.  Wedgwood,  Mr. 
Younger, Sir  John Baker,  Sir  Luke  White, and 
Mr.  Montgomery,  presented  a  Bill  to  facilitate 
the  administration  of  Oaths  by  uplifted  hand : 
And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be read  a second 
time  upon Tuesday  next;  and to be  printed. 

Mr. James  Mason, supported  by  Sir  Gilbert  Payment  of 

Parker,  Viscount  Helmsley,  Mr.  Hicks  Beach,
Mr.  Courthope, Mr.  Villiers,  and  Mr.  Molteno, 
presented  a  Bill  to  regulate  the  payment  of 
Rates when made  by  the  owner  instead  of  the 
occupier  :  And  the same was ordered  to be  read 

Bl)1 

73, 

 
 
No.  IA]  9  EDW.  V I I. 

4th March. 

41 

a  second  time  upon  Thursday  next;  and  to  be 
printed, 

Resolved, That this  House  will, upon  Monday  


next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 


Social 
Condition  of 
the  Private 
Soldier. 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Places of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment) Bill. 
Bill  74. 

Mr.  Solicitor  General,  supported  by  Mr. 
Runciman and  Mr.  Herbert  Lewis,  presented  a 
Bill  to  authorise  the  enfranchisement  of  the 
siteS  of  Places  of  Worship  held  under  lease: 
And  the  same  was ordered  to be  read  a second 
time  upon  Thursday  the  18th day  of  this instant 
March;  and to  be printed. 

Public  Health 
(Provisional 
Orders) Bill. 
Bill  75. 

Mr.  George  Thome,  supported  by  Mr.  John 
William Wilson,  Mr.  Scott,  Sir  Henry  Norman, 
Mr.  Staveley-Hill,  and  Mr.  Thomas Frederick 
Richards,  presented  a  Bill to  amend  the  Public 
Health  Act,  1875,  in  relation  to  Provisional 
Orders  :  And  the  same  was ordered  to  be read 
a  second  time  upon  Thursday  the  18th  day  of 
this instant March  ,•  and to  be  printed. 

Supply (Army
Estimates.)

  Committee of  Supply  ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

And  a Motion  being made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  do 
now  leave  the  Chair—(Mr.  Secretary  Ilaldane); 
An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
"  That"  to the  end of  the  Question,  and  adding 
the  words  " this  House,  while  recognising  the 
marked progress recently made in improving  the 
social  conditions  of  the  private  soldier's  life, 
would  welcome  further  steps towards  this  end, 
more particularly  by  the  opening of  temperance 
rooms  in  all  barracks  where  none  exist,  by 
developing  the  system  of  training  the  private 
soldier for  after employment  in civil  life, and  by 
multiplying  the  opportunities  of  such  employ­
ment"—(Mr.  Howard),— instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the words 

proposed  to  be left  out  stand  part of  the  Ques­
tion :—It  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

And the Main  Question being again  proposed : 

—And  a Debate  arising  thereupon  ; 

Mr.  Hobhouse reported  from the  Committee  of'Ways and 
Ways  and  Means  a  Resolution;  which  was ^ n ^ - a r c hl 
read,  as followeth  : 

Report-

That, towards making good the Supply granted 
to  His  Majesty  for  the  Service  of  the  year 
ending  on the 31st day  of  March  1909, the sum 
of £910,000  be granted  out of  the  Consolidated 
Fund  of  the  United  Kingdom. 

The  said Resolution  being read a second  time ; 
And  a Motion  being  made, and the  Question  

being  put,  That  this  House  doth  agree  with  the  

Committee  in  the  said Resolution 5 


The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

i Master  of  Elibank : 

"1 
J 

161. 

Tellers  for  the/ Sir Frederick Banbury,  \  
 44. 
I Mr. Renwick : 

Noes, 

/ 

So  it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Ordered, That  a  Bill  be  brought  in upon  the  Consolidated 

said  Resolution:  And  that  the  Chairman  0f F u n <1  ( S o-
Ways  and  Means,  Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer,  and  Mr.  Hobhouse  do prepare  and 
bring  it in. 

M r.  Hobhouse accordingly  presented  a Bill  to  Consolidated 
-No- J> 

apply  a sum  out  of  the  Consolidated  Fund  to 
the Service  of  the year  ending  on  the thirty-first 
day of  March  one  thousand  nine  hundred  and 
nine :  And  the  same was read the first time, and 
ordered to  be read  a second  time  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of the  Board 
of Agriculture  and Fisheries Bill;  

a ^ Eishertes 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be read  a second  time  Bil1' 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Prime  Minister  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to move, That  the  Question  be  now  put. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways and 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means; 

Means. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  Ques­

tion be  now  put; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right  ; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for thefMr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

\Master  of  Elibank: 

Tellers for the (Mr.  Lane-Fox, 

'  Noes, 

t Mr. Hunt: 

5 

J 
1 
j 

180. 

54. 

So  it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the Main  Question  being  put; 
Ordered,  That  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  do  now 

leave  the  Chair. 

Supply.

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into 

the  Committee  of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Army  Estimates,  1909-10. 
Motion  made, and  Question,  That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again —  (Mr.  Secretary  Haldane), —  put,  and 
agreed  to. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair; 
and the Deputy  Chairman acquainted the  House 
that  the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the 
matter  to  them  referred;  and  that  he  was 
directed  to  move, That the  Committee  may have 
leave  to  sit  again. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for receiving  Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  [3rd  March] 
the 3rd  day  of this instant  March; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Housing, 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan- Town 
ning, &c.  Bill  ; 

Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland ipiand 
Revenue Bill ; 

Revenue Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Buildings and; 

Second  Reading of  the  Buildings  and  Engineer- wTk?Biiig 
ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament 
Bill;  

Bi"­

G 

 
 


4:th-^5tJiMarch. 


Orderedj That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time s 
j 
* 

upon  Monday next. 

, ; 

• 

of°CUldrnenti0n 
Bill.^1

T he   ° r d e r .  o f 

t he  d a y  being  read,  for  the| 
Second  Reading  of  the'Contaminatitfn  of  (Child-j 
ren Bill;  •• 
i 

• 

Treasury : Minute  under  the  Superannuation 
Act,  1887,  dated  1st,  March  1909,  granting  a 
retired  allowance 
to  Mr.  Henry  Phillips, 
Sorting  Clerk  and  Telegraphist,  Edinburgh 
Post  Office. 

, 

- v 

Ordered, That the said  Papers do lie  upon  the 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second time | Table;  and that  the  said  Estimates be  referred 

upon Thursday  next. 

to  the  Committee of  Supply,  and be  printed. 

Pedlars Acts
Amendment

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc- Irish Land 
  Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend- tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  was  laid  upon  Commission 
^ 
'  •  ' 

ment Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next,; 

The  Order, of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Police  (Weekly  Holi­
day)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Sill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  M onday  next. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of  the 
clock,  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  adjourned 
the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant  to  the  Standing  Order,  it  being 
then  twenty-six  minutes  before  Twelve 
of the clock,  till  to-morrow. 

' 

[No.  14.] 

Friday,  5th March  1909. 

T

The  House  met  at Twelve  of  the  clock. 
HE  Clerk  at the  Table  informed  the  House 
of  the unavoidable  absence  of  Mr.  Speaker 
from  this  day's  Sitting,  through  continued 
indisposition: —  Whereupon  Mr.  Emmott,  the 
Chairman  of  Way3  and  Means,  proceeded  to 
the  Table,  and, after  Prayers,  took  the  Chair 
as  Deputy  Speaker,  pursuant  to  the  Standing 
Order. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read ;  and ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,-—Return 
to  an Address  to His  Majesty,  dated  the  24th 
day of February  last,  for  a  Return  relative  to 
Aliens  (Naturalisation). 

Ordered, That  the  said Return do lie  upon the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  MlKenna  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
the  year 

Command,  —  Navy  Estimates 
1909-10, with  explanation  of differences. 

for 

Mr. Speaker's 
Absence. 

Prayers. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide First 
Report. 

Aliens . 
(Naturalisa­
tion.) 

No.  52. 

Navy 
Estimates, 
1909-10. 

No.  53. 

Navy 
(Statement 
i s C r r"  1909-IQ 

Copy  of  Statement  of  the  First  Lord  of  the 
Admiralty  explanatory  of  the  Navy  Estimates, 

Ordered, That the said  Papers  do  lie  upon the 
Table  ;  and that  the  said  Estimates  be  referred 
to the Committee of  Supply,  and  be  printed. 

Civil  Services 
and Revenue 
Departments 
Estimates, 
1909-10. 

No.  54. 

Mr.  Hobhonse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,— Estimates  for  Civil  Services  and 
Revenue  Departments  for  the  year  ending 
31st March  1910, together  with  a  Copy  of  the 
Memorandum  by  the Financial  Secretary  to the 
Treasury  relating  thereto. 

Civil  Services 
and  Revenue 
Departments, 
1909-10  (Vote 
on Account.) 
No.  55. 
Superannua- ; 
tion  Act,  1887. 

Estimate  showing  the  several  Services  for 
which  a  Vote  on  Account  is  required  for  the 
year  ending  31st March  1910. 

. 

Mr. Hobhouse  also  presented, pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 

the Table  by the  Clerk  of  the  House :—Copy
of  Report  of  the  Comptroller  and  Auditor
General  upon  the  Account  of  the  Irish  Land 
Commission for  the year ended  31st March  1908, 
together  with the Account  for the above  period, 
and  that from  22nd  August  1881  to 31st  March 
1908.  v 'V 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper   be  printed. 

Sir  William  Brampton  Gurdon reported  from i 
the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had  dis-j 
charged  the  fpllowing  Member  from  Standing standing868^ 
Committee A  : —Mr.  Wiles-, and  had appointed  Committee A 
in substitution :  Mr.  Bridie. 

Selection 
(Standing  i 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Daylight  


Second  Reading  of  the  Daylight  Saving  Bill ; 

Saving Bill. 


And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time ; 

, ;  / 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question, by  leaving  out  the  Word  "now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day six  months."—(Mr. Holt.) 
And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  "  now "  stand part of  the Question  —And 
a Debate  arising thereupon  ; 

Mr.  Dobson rose  in  his place  and  claimed  to  Closure 
move,  That  the  Question  be  now  put;  but  claimed,  but 
Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  withheld  his  assent,  and speaker"*7 
declined  then  to put that  Question  :—Then  the  withholds  his 
House  resumed  the  Debate. 

assent. 

Mr.  Dobson  rose  in  his  place  and  claimed  to 

move,  That  the  Question  be  now  put. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  Ques-Question put 

tion be  now  put  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The Noes to  the  Left.:  

Tellers for  the [Mr.  Dobson,  


Yeas, 

\ Sir  Henry Norman : 

Tellers for  the f Viscount  Helmsley,  

I Mr.  Godfrey Baring 


Noes, 

(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate,) 

}  173. 

)  86. 

So  it  was resolved  in the  Affirmative.  


And  the Question  being  accordingly put, That 

the  word  "  now "  stand  part of the  Question  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers  for the {Mr. Dobson, 

Yeas, 

1 Sir  Henry  Norman : 

Tel1  Nof  sr  thi  Sir' William  Brampton 

' 

[  Gurdon: 

141. 

108. 


So  it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Dobson  claimed,  That  the 

Main  Question  be now put. 

put; 

And  the  Main  Question  being  accordingly  Main Question 
°  J  put (pursuant 
to S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

• 

^ 

 
 


No. ,14]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

5th—&h  March. 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to the  Eight;  

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the ("Mr.  Dobson, 

• 

Yeas, 

l Sir Henry  Norman •. 

Tellers for the/Sir  Frederick Banbnry, 

NpeS, 

(Mr.  Ashley: 

1 
J 

130. 

94. 

f 

So it was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
The  Bill  was accordingly  read  a second  time. 

A  Motion, was  made, and  the  Question  being 
put, That  the Bill  be  committed  to  a Committee 
of  the  whole House—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury); 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas to the  Bight;  

The Noes to the  Left.  

Tellers for  the (Sir  Frederick  Banbury,  \  U1 
I Mr.  Gretton: 
Tellers for the/ Mr.  Dobson, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Robert Pearce  : 

J  V l ' 
1124 
J 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 

Select  Committee.—(Mr.  Dobson.) 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Five  of  the 
clock.  Mr. Deputy  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant 
to  Standing  Order  No.  3,  it  being  then 
twenty-five  minutes  before  Six  of  the 
clock,  till  Monday  next. 

[No.  15.] 

Monday,  8th March  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

Mr. Speaker's  THE  Clerk  at  the Table  informed  the  House 

Absence. 

of  the unavoidable  absence of  Mr.  Speaker, 
owing  to  continued  indisposition, from this  day's 
Sitting:—Whereupon  Mr.  Emmott,  the  Chair­
man  of  Ways  and  Means,  proceeded  to  the 
Table,  and,  after  Prayers,  took  the  Chair  as 
Deputy  Speaker,  in  pursuance  of  the  Standing 
Order. 

Prayers. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  laid  upon the  Table,— 
Private  Bills 
(Standing 
Report from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions 
Orders not 
in  the  case  of  the 
for  Private  Bills,  That 
previously 
inquired into  following  Bills,  referred  on  the  First  Reading 
complied 
thereof,  the  Standing  Orders  not  previously 
with.) 
inquired  into,  and  which  are applicable  thereto, 
have been  complied  with, viz.  :— 

Harrogate  Gas  Bill. 
Cork,  Bandon,  and  South  Coast.  Railway 

Bill. 

West  Gloucestershire  Water  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bills  be read  a second  time. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 
upon  Monday  the  22nd  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

Ordered,  That  the  Committee  of  Selection  do  Local 

1 

'  " 

nominate  a  Committee,  not  exceeding  Fifteen 
Members,  to  be  called  the  Local  Legislation
Committee,  to  whom  shall  be  committed  all 
Private  Bills  promoted  by  municipal  and  other 
local  authorities  bv  which  it  is  proposed  to 
create  powers  relating  to  Police,  Sanitary,  or 
other  Local  Government  regulations  in  conflict 
with, deviation  from, or excess  of  the  provisions 
of  the general  Law. 

Ordered, That  Standing  Orders  150 and  173a 

apply to  all such  Bills. 

Ordered, That  the  Committee  have  power  to 

send for  persons, papers,  and  records. 

Ordered, That  Four  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee. 

Ordered, That  if  the  Committee  shall report 
to  the  Committee  of  Selection  that  any  Clauses 
of any  Bill referred  to them (other  than  Clauses 
containing  Police,  Sanitary,  or  other  Local 
Government  regulations)  are  such  as,  haying 
regard to the terms of reference, it is not, in  their 
opinion, necessary  or advisable for  them to  deal 
with, the Committee  of  Selection shall thereupon 
refer  the Bill  to  a  Select  Committee,  who shall 
consider  those  Clauses,  and  so  much  of  the 
Preamble  of  the  Bill  as  relates  thereto,  and 
shall  determine  the expenditure  (if  any)  to  be 
authorised  in  respect  of  the  parts  of  the  Bill 
referred  to  them ;  that  the  Committee  shall 
deal  with  the  remaining  Clauses  of  such  Bill, 
and so much of the Preamble  as  relates  thereto, 
and  shall  determine  the  period  and  mode  of 
repayment  of  any  money  authorised  by  the 
Select  Committee  to  be  borrowed,  and  shall 
report  the  whole  Bill  to  the  House,  stating  in 
their  Report  what parts  of  the  Bill  have  been 
considered  by  each  Committee. 

Ordered, That  the Committee  have  power,  if  

they  so determine, to  sit  as two  Committees, and 

in that  event  to  apportion  the Bills  referred to 

the  Committee  between  the  two  Committees,  

each  of which shall have the  full  powers of,  and  

be  subject to the  Instructions which apply to, the 

undivided  Committee,  and  that  Four  be  the  

quorum of  each  of  the  two  Committees.—(Mr. 
Herbert Samuel.) 

The  Kirkwall  Water  Provisional  Order  Bill  Kirkwall 
was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time, ^ovlsiona 
and ordered  to  be  taken  into  consideration  upon  Order Bill. 
Wednesday  next. 

A  Public  Petition  was  presented,  and  read  ; Public 

and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide  First 
Report. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,—Return  to  an  Order, Boycotting 
(Ireland.) 

dated  the  25th  day  of  February  last,  for  a 
Return  relative to  Boycotting  (Ireland). 

No. 57. 

Eastbourne 
GAS Bill. 

The  Eastbourne  Gas  Bill  was  read  a second 

time, and  committed. 

The  Folkestone,  Sandgate,  and  Hythe  Tram-
ways  Bill  was  read  a  second  time,  and  com­

Folkestone, 
Sandgate, 
and  Hythe  

Tramways  mitted. 

BiU. 


Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the Militia Act, 
directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Return  of 1882 (Deputy 
Lieutenants, 
Copies  of  the  several  descriptions  of  qualifica- Ireland.) 

tions  under  the  Militia  Act,  1882, lodged  with  

the  Clerk  of  General  Meetings of  Lieutenancy  

in  Ireland  by  Deputy  Lieutenants  during  the  

year  1908,  as  furnished  to  the  Chief  Secretary  

to the  Lord  Lieutenant  of  Ireland.  


Hull and 
Barnsley 
RaUway  Bill. 

The  Hull  and. Barnsley  Railway Bill  was read 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do lie upon the  


a second time, and  committed. 

Table;  and that the  said  Return  be  printed.  


Newry,  Keady,  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
and Tynan 
Second  Reading  of  the  Newry,  Keady,  and 
.. 
„ 
. 
Railway  Bin.  Tynan  Railway  Bill; 

VOL.  164. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Colonial  

Command,—Copy  of  Report,  No.  595  (Basuto- Reports „ 

land,  Report for  1907-8)7 
( A n n u a L> 
G  2 

 










u 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

8 th March. 

1909. 
Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

[No.  15. 

Table. 

morrow. 


Soane's 
Museum. 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  an  Act   of  Parliament,  was  laid  upon 
the  Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House  :—Copy 
of  Statement  of  the  Funds  of  the  Museum 
of  the late  Sir John  Soane  on  the  5th  January 
1909. 

New  Members 
sworn. 

The  Right  Honourable  Charles Scott Dickson, 
K.C., Member for the Burgh  of  Glasgow (Central 
Division),  was sworn. 

Arthur  Dewar,  Esquire,  K.C.,  His  Majesty's 
Solicitor  General  for  Scotland,  Member  for  the 
Burgh  of  Edinburgh 
(South  Division),  was 
sworn. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees,) 
Standing 
Committee  C. 

Sir  William Brampton  Gurdon reported from 
the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had 
discharged  the  following  Member  from  Stand­
ing  Committee  C :—Mr.  Cheetham ;  and  had 
appointed  in substitution  :  Mr. Crosfleld. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Consolidated  Fund  (No.  1)  Bill  was, Consolidated 
according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and Fund (No.  1) 
committed  to  a  Committee  of the whole  House  1 
for  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the'day  being  read,  for  the  Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament 
Bill; 

r,llL 

*  

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time  


to-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board  ^ h e  r i  " r i  f 
of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill; 
anci  Fisheries 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time  Cil1, 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways and 


Committee  of  Ways  and Means  ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Law  Agents 
(Scotland) 
Act 
Amendment 
Bill. 

Bill  76. 

Mr.  Gulland, supported  by Mr. Eugene Wason, 

Sir  George M'Crae,  Mr.  Falconer,  Mr.  Howard,
Mr.  Claude  Hay,  Mr.  Barnes,  Mr.  Pine,  Mr. 
Maclean,  Mr.  James  Stuart,  and  Mr. Cathcart 
Wason,  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Law 
Agents  (Scotland)  Act,  1873:  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  next;  and to  be printed. 

Episcopal 
Endowments 
BUI. 

Bill 77. 

Sir  George  Kekewich,  supported  by  Mr. 
Charles Corbett  and  Mr.  Smeaton, presented  a 
Bill to  enable the Endo wments of archbishoprics 
and bishoprics to be reduced, to limit the Endow­
ments of  fresh bishoprics, and for  other  purposes 
connected  therewith  : And the same  wa3 ordered 
to  be read a second  time upon  Thursday  the  18th 
day  of  this instant  March;  and to  be  printed. 

Supply 
[1st  allotted 
Day.] 

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself 

into  the  Committee  of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Army  Estimates,  1909-10. 

Motion  made, and  Question  proposed,  That a 
number  of  Land  Forces  not  exceeding  183,200, 
all  ranks,  be  maintained for the  Service  of  the 
United  Kingdom  of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland 
at Home  and  Abroad,  excluding  His  Majesty's 
Indian  Possessions,  during  the  year  ending  on 
the 31st day  of  March  1910 : 

Whereupon  Motion  made,  and  Question  pro­
posed,  That  a  number  of  Land  Forces  not 
exceeding  173,200, all ranks,  be  maintained  for 
the said  Service.—(Dr.  Rutherford.) 

And  it  being  Eleven  of  the  clock,  the  Chair­
man left  the  Chair  to  make  his  Report  to  the 
House. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed the  Chair ;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  acquainted 
the  House  that  the.  Committee  had  made 
Progress  in  the  matter  to them  referred;  and 
that  he was  directed  to  move,  That  the  Com­
mittee  may have leave  to sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan- £own. 
Planning,  &c. 
P l f l - T im 
0
ning, &c.  Bill; 
Bill. 

T i   M l

• 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs  and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland I"land  TJ.„ 
Revenue  Bill. 
-r, 
Revenue  Bill; 

n - ii 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Buildings  and 

Second  Reading of  the  Buildings  and Engineer-  Engineering 
ing  Works  Bill;

WorksBi11­

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London 

Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply 
Bill;  

Supply  Bill. 
'irm " 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Territorial 

Second  Reading  of  the  Territorial  Army  Ballot
Bill; 

'  

Bl11' 

Ballot 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Remission of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Remission  of  Surcharges  Surcharges 
™ 
(Dublin)  Bill; 

(Dublin)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant 
i\l arch. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pedlars  Acts 
Second  Reading,  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-  Amendment 
ment  Bill; 

BllL 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Police 

according  to  Order,  read  a second  time. 

(Weekly  Holiday)  Bill  w a s,  Police  (Weekly 
Holiday)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  the 
Select  Committee  on  Police  Forces  (Weekly 
Rest-day).—(Mr.  Remnant.) 

Supply 
[3rd  March] 
Report. 

The  Order of the  day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 3rd day  of  this instant  March ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Coroners' 
Second  Reading  of the  Coroners'  Inquests  Bill;   Inquests  Bill. 



 
 
 
No.  10.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

1st—2nd  March.  	

45 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a  second  time 
upon  Monday  the  22nd  day  o£  this  instant 
March. 

Workmen's 
Compensation  Second  Reading  of  the  Workmen's  Compensa­

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

tion  Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Friday  the 2nd day  of  April  next. 

the  Eastern  African  Protectorates,  (2)  entitled 
the  Southern  Nigeria  Protectorate  Order 
in 
Council,  1909;  of  Orders  in  Council,  dated 
15th  February  1909,  making  provision  for 
Appeals  to  His  Majesty  in  Council  from  Courts 
in  (1)  the  Eastern  African  Protectorates,  (2) 
Sierra  Leone,  (3)  Somaliland, 
(4)  Southern 
Nigeria. 

,

Ordered, That  the said  Papers  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

And  it  being  half  an hour  after Eleven  of 
the clock, Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  adjourned 
the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant  to  the  Standing  Order,  till  to­
morrow. 

[No.  16.] 

Tuesday, 9th March  1909. 

Mr. Speaker's

Absence.

Prayers.

The  House  met at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 
  r p H  E  Clerk  at the  Table informed  the  House 
J [   0 f the  unavoidable  absence of  Mr.  Speaker, 
owing  to  continued  indisposition, from  this day's 
Sitting:—Whereupon  Mr.  Emmott, the  Chair­
man  of  Ways  and  Means,  proceeded  to  the 
Table,  and,  after  Prayers,  took  the  Chair  as 
Deputy  Speaker,  pursuant  to  the  Standing 
Order. 

Gas Light  and 
Coke Company r e a t j  a  second  time, and  committed. 
Bill. 

The  Gas  Light  and Coke  Company  Bill  was 

' 

Ordered,  That  the  North  and  South  Shields 
North  and 
B°ectrichieldS
  Railway  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
Railway  Bill,  upon  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant 

  E l e c t r ic

March. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read  ,* and  ordered  to  lie upon  the  Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Tide  First 
Report. 
Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His 
Board of 
Agriculture  Majesty's Command,—Copy  of  Agricultural Sta­
and  Fisheries. 
tistics,  1908.  Vol.  X L I I I  .  Part  II.,  Return 
of  Produce  of  Crops  in  Great  Britain,  with 
Summaries for the  United  Kingdom, 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
Naval and 
Marine Pay 
directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament, — 
and  Pensions  Copies  of  Orders  in  Council  under  the  Naval 
Act,  1865. 
and  Marine  Pay  and  Pensions  Act,  1865, dated 
15th  February  1909,  approving  Memorials  of 
the  Lords  Commissioners  of  the  Admiralty 
praying  sanction  to— 

(1)  The  grant  of  climate  allowance to  officers 
and men of  His  Majesty's  Navy for  service 
in the  Persian  Gulf j 

(2)  Retrospective	  effect,  as  from  1st  April 
1908, being  given  to  the  Order  in  Council 
of  21st  November  1908  (qualifying  period 
for promotion  of  Engineer  Commanders) ; 
(3)  Certain  payments  to  officers  and  men  in 
the  Civil  Departments  of  the  Admiralty, 
with  retrospective  effect  from  the  date  of 
the first payment. 

Copy  of Order in  Council under  the  Merchant 
Merchant 
Shipping  Act,  Shipping  Act,  1894, dated  15th  February  1909, 
1894. 
prescribing  certain  Rules for  the  Navigation  of 
the  River  Hull. 

Foreign 
Jurisdiction 
Act,  1890. 

Copies of  Orders in Council under the Foreign 
Jurisdiction  Act,  1890,  dated  15th  February 
1909,  (1)  establishing  a  Court  of  Appeal  for 

VOL.  164. 

Mr,  Hobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Civil  Services 
Command,  —  Copy  of  Statement  of  sums 
Revenue 
required  to  be  voted  in  order  to  make  good  (EeP^"®nts 
excesses  on  certain  Grants  for  Civil  Services  1907-8.) 
and  Revenue  Departments  for  the  year  ended  No. 59. 
31st  March  1908. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  be referred  to 

the  Committee  of  Supply;  and be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the Examiners  of  Petitions  for  London 
Private  Bills  do  examine  the  London  Electric  Electric 
Supply  Bill,  with  respect  to  compliance  with SuPply  BiU­
the  Standing  Orders relative  to  Private  Bills. 

Sir  John Nicholson  Barran,  Baronet,  Member  New  Member 

for  the  Hawick  District of  Burghs, was sworn,  sworn. 

Colonel  Williams reported from the  Committee  public 
of  Public  Accounts;  That  they  had made  Pro-  Accounts 
gress  in  the  matters  to  them  referred,  and 
directed  him  to  make  a  Report  thereof  to the 
House. 

RePort-) 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be  printed. 

Mr.  Ellis reported from the  Select  Committee  standing 

on  Standing  Orders  several  Resolutions  ;  which  Orders, 
were  read, as follow  : 

1.  That  in  the  case  of  the  Midland  Great  Midland  Great 

Western  Railway  of  Ireland,  Petition  for  Bill, Western 
the  Standing Orders ought to be dispensed  with; 
that  the  parties  be  permitted  to  proceed  with 
their  Bill  on the condition  that proof  is given to 
the  Committee  on the  Bill  that  the  Corporation 
of  Dublin  have  consented  to  the construction  of 
the proposed  tramways ;  that  the  Committee  on 
the Bill  do report how far  such  Order  has  been 
complied  with. 

of 

2.  That  in  the  case  of  the  London  County  London 

Council  (Tramways  and  Improvements),  Peti­
tion for Bill,  the  Standing  Orders  ought  to  be (Tramways 
dispensed  with ;  that  the  parties  be  permitted and improve-
to  proceed  with their  Bill  on the condition  thatment8-) 
Tramways  Nos.  1,  3,  4,  5,  6,  7, 9, and Nos.  9a 
to  9h,  both inclusive, be  struck out  of  the  Bill; 
that  the  Committee  on  the  Bill  do report how 
far  such  Order has been  complied  with. 

3.  That  in  the  case  of  the  Great  Northern,  Great 
Great  Central,  and  Great  Eastern  Railways  Northern, 
Bill, Petition for dispensing with Standing Order  and Great 
128  in the case  of  the  Petition  of  the  Railway  Eastern 
Carriage  and  Wagon  Builders'  and  Financiers' Railways  Bill. 
Parliamentary  Association  against  the  Bill,  the 
said  Standing Order  ought to  be dispensed  with. 

4.  That  in  the  case  of  the  London  County  London 
f o  r  County 

Council  (General  Powers)  Bill,  P e t i t i o  n 
dispensing  with  Standing  Order  128  in  the  case (general 
of  the Petition  of  the Royal  Institute  of  British  Powers)  Bill. 
Architects  against  the  B i l l  ,  the  said  Standing 
Order  ought to be  dispensed  with. 

5.  That in the  case  of  the Remission of  Sur- Remission of 
charges  (Dublin)  Bill  the  Standing  O r i e r * * ™  ^ 
ought  to  be  dispensed  with ;  that  the  Bill  be 
permitted  to  proceed. 

The  said  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second 

time,  were  agreed  to. 

G  3 

 
 
Wi  March. 

Sir;  William Brampton Gurdon reported  from  Whereupon  Motion  made,  and  Question  put, 
the  Committee  of  Selection ;  That  they  had  That  a  number  of  Land  Forces  not; exceeding 
discharged the following  Member  from  Standing  173,200, all  ranks,  be  maintained  for  the  said 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  C.  Committee  C :—Mr. Bowles ;  and had appointed  Service.—(Dr.  Rutherford.)
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the (Dr.  Rutherford, 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

in  substitution  :  Mr. Joynson-Hicks. 

Table. 

Railways 
(Contracts) 
Bill. 

Bill 78. 

Mr.  Hooper,  supported  by  Mr.  Lambton, Sir 
Francis  Channing,  Sir  Charles Shaw, Mr.  Hyde,
Dr.  Hazel,  and  Mr.  George  Thome,  presented a 
Bill  to  amend  the  Law  relating  to  Railway 
and  Canal  Companies'  Rates and Conditions  of 
conveyance  :  And  the  same  Was  ordered  to be 
read  a second time upon  Friday  the  14th day  of 
May  next;  and to  be printed. 

Yeas, 

\ Mr.  George  Hardy \ 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

t Master of  Elibank : 


)l00. 

|  247. 

Original  Question  put, and agreed  to.  

2.  £8,527,000 

for  the  Pay,  &c.  of  His 
Majesty's  Army  (including  Army  Reserve)  at 
Home  and Abroad  (exclusive  of  India). 

3. £1,762,000 for Rewards, Half  Pay, Retired 
Pay,  Widows'Pensions, and  other  Non-effective 
Charges for  Officers. 

Municipal 
Mr.  Cleland, supported  by  Mr.  Acland Allen, 
Elections Bill.  Sir  George  M'Crae,  Mr.  Barnes,  Major Coates, 

4.  £1,868,000  for  Chelsea  and  Kilmainham 
Hospitals,  Out-Pensions,  Rewards  for  Dis-
Bill  79.  Mr. Younger, Mr. Mooney, Mr. Mitchell- Thomson, tinguished  Serviceis,  Widows'  Pensions,  and 
other  Non-effective  Charges 
for  Warrant 
Officers, Non-commissioned  Officers,  and  Men, 
&c. 

Mr.  Adkins,  and  Captain  Waring,  presented a 
Bill to amend the Municipal  Elections  (Corrupt 
and Illegal  Practices) Act, 1884:  And  the same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  next;  and to be  printed. 

Trade  • 
Disputes  Bill. 
Bill  80. 

lAr.Cleland,  supported  by  Mr.  Walters,  Mr. 
Parker,  Mr.  Whitwell  Wilson, Mr.  Findlay,  Sir 
Henry  Dalziel,  Mr;  William  Jones,  and  Mr. 
T.  P.  0' Connor,  presented  a  Bill  to  promote 
arbitration  in  Trade  Disputes :  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  next;  and to be  printed. 

5.  £158,000  for  Civil  Superannuation,  Com­
pensation,  Compassionate  Allowances  and  Gra­
tuities,  and;  of  Payments under  the Workmen's 
Compensation  Acts.  , 

Resolutions to be reported. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  come 
to  several 
Resolutions. 

Public Health 

Officers Bill. 

Bill  81. 

Sir  Walter  Foster,  supported  by  Sir  Francis 
Sharp Powell,  Sir  John  Tuke,  and  Mr.  Cooper,
presented  a Bill  to  amend  the  Law  relating  to 
the  qualification and  tenure of  office  of  Medical 
Officers of  Health  and Inspectors, ana for  other 
purposes:  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be 
read  a  second  time  upon  Friday  the  16th  day 
of  April  next;  and  to  be  printed. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

| morrow. 
i  The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may have  leave  to 
sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

Licensing  Bill 
Bill  82. 

Mr.  Barnard,  supported  by  Sir  John Bethell, 
Mr.  Bethell,  and  Mr.  Cecil  Tlarmsworth,  pre­
sented  a Bill  to  amend  the Licensing  Acts,  1828 
to  1906 :  And  the same  was  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Business of 
the House 
(Supply,) 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being 
put,  That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Business  of 
Supply,  if'  under  discussion  when  the  Business 
is postponed  this day, be  resumed  and proceeded 
with, though  opposed,  after  the  interruption  of 
Business—(The  Prime  Minister); 
"  The  House  divided. 

The  Teas to the  Right; 
The  Hoet to the  Left. 

!  Tellers  for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

\Master of  Elibank : 
Tellers for  theJ  Viscount  Valentia, 

N oes, 

I Lord  Edmund  Talbot 

• 267. 

62. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

Supply. 

Th&House, according  to Order, resolved  itself 

into the  Committee  of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Army  Estimates,  1909-10. 

1.  Motion  made, and  Question  proposed, That 
a number of  Land Forces  not  exceeding  183,200, 
all  ranks,  be  maintained  for the  Service of  the 
United  Kingdom  of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland 
at Home  and Abroad,  excluding  His  Majesty's 
Indian  Possessions,  during  the  year  ending  on 
the 31st day  of  March  1910 : 

Mr.  Joseph  Pease  reported  from  the  Com-  Supply 
mittee of  Supply of  the  3rd  day  of  this  instant [ 3*d  March] 
March  several Resolutions;;  which  were read,  as 
follow : 

t>ortl 

Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments  

;  Supplementary  Estimates,  1908-9.  


Class  VII. 

1.  That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding  Expenses 
£100,000  be  granted to  His  Majesty,  to  defray  under the 
the  charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  pay-  Workmen  Act 
ment  during  the  year  ending  on  the 31st  day  1905. 
' 
of  March  1909  for  Contributions  in  Aid  of 
Expenses  under  the  Unemployed  Workmen 
Act,  1905. 

Class  II. 

2.  That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding  House of 
£10  be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  defray  the Commons 
charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  payment °ffices­
during  the year  ending on the 31st day of  March 
1909 for  the  Salaries and Expenses of the Offices 
of  the  House  of  Commons. 

3.  That  a supplementary  sum  not  exceeding  Colonial 
£610  be  granted  to His  Majesty,  to  defray  the Office, 
charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  payment 
during  the year ending  on the  31 st day of  March 
1909  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses  of  the 
Department of  His  Majesty's  Secretary  of  State 
for the  Colonies. 

4.  That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding  Registrar 
£10  be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  defray  the General's 
charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  payment  g ^ ^  a 
during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of 
March  1909 for the Salaries and Expenses  of  the 

No. 16.1  9  E D W.   Y I I. 

9 th  March. 

Department  of  the  Registrar  General of  Births, 
&c. in  Scotland. 

Class  I I I. 

such  supply—(Mr.  Courthope) :—And  the 
Motion  was,  with  leave  of  the  House,  with­
drawn. 

Inspector of 
5.  That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding 
ll^matories,  £4,500  be granted to  His Majesty, to  defray  the 
charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  payment 
Expenses. 
duringthe  year ending  on  the 31st day of  March 
1909  for  the  Salaries and Expenses  of  the Office 
of  the  Inspector  of  Reformatories,  and  for  the 
maintenance  of  Juvenile  Offenders  in  Reforma­
tory,  Industrial,  and  Day  Industrial  Schools, 
and under the  Youthful  Offenders Act,  in  Great 
Britain. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Glamorgan 
Second  Reading of the  Glamorgan  Water  Board  Water Board 
Bill; 

BllL 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Oldham 
Second  Reading  of  the  Oldham  Corporation  Corporation 

Courts of  Law 
and  Justice, 
Scotland. 

Merthyr 
County 
School. 

6.  That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding 
£5  be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  defray  the 
charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  payment 
during the year ending  on  the 31st day  of  March 
1909 for the  Salaries and  Expenses of  the  Lord 
Advocate's Department, and other La w Charges, 
and the  Salaries  and  Expenses  of  the  Courts  of 
Law  and Justice  in  Scotland. 

Class  I V. 
7.  That  a 3um not  exceeding  £610 be  granted 
to  His  Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge  which  will 
come  in  course  of  payment  during  the  year 
ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1909  for  a 
Grant  to  the  Merthyr  County  School  in  lieu 
of  a  Grant  under  the  Welsh  Intermediate 
Education  Act,  1889. 

Class I. 

Harbours 
under the 
Board of 
Trade. 

8.  That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding 
£10  be  granted  to  His  Majesty, to  defray the 
charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  payment 
during  the year  ending on the 31st day of  March 
1909 for  Grants  in Aid  of  Harbours. 

Customs 
Department. 

Revenue  Departments. 

9.  That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding 
£4,000  be granted to  His  Majesty, to  defray the 
charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  payment 
during  the year ending on the 31st day of  March 
1909  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses  of  the 
Customs  Department. 

The  First  Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time, was postponed. 
>  ;  The  Second  Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time, was agreed  to.  : 

The  Third  Resolution,  That  a  supplementary 
sum  not  exceeding  £610  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come 
in  course  of payment  during  the year  ending  on 
the  31st  day  of  March  1909 for the  Salaries and 
Expehses  of  the  Department  of  His  Majesty's 
Secretary of  State for the  Colonies, being  read a 
second  time; 

And  a  Motion being made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  this  House  doth  agree 
with the  Committee  in the said Resolution  : 

And  it being  a quarter  of  an hour  after Eight 
of  the clock, and there being Private Business set 
down by direction  of  the  Chairman of  Ways and 
Means  under  Standing  Order  No.  8,  further 
proceeding  was postponed  without  Question  put-

The  Derwent  Valley  Water  Board  Bill  was, 
according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed. 
.  A  Motion  was  made, and  the  Question  was 
proposed, That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the  Com­
mittee  to  insert  a  Clause  requiring  the  Board 
to  supply,  on  demand,  water  by  meter  to  any 
person  requiring the  same for domestic, farming, 
or  trade purposes  at a charge not  exceeding  one 
shilling  per  thousand  gallons,  in  addition  to  a 
charge  not  exceeding  five  per  centum  on  the 
additional  initial  outlay  involved  in  providing 

VOL.  164. 

Derwent 
Valley 
Water Board 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Aidershot Gas 

Second  Reading  of  the  Aidershot  Gas  anda nd  Water 
Water  Bill;  

Blll> 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  he read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pontypridd 
  Bill. 

Second  Reading of the  Pontypridd  Water  Bill;

  W a t Rr

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being  Taxation, 

proposed,  That,  in  the. opinion  of  this  House, 
having  regard to the circumstances  of  the  people 
and  the  distribution  of  wealth,  the  amount  of 
Taxation  raised  by  direct  means is insufficient 
and unequal  in. comparison  with  that  which  is 
raised  by  indirect  taxes,  and in  comparison  with 
the  material  condition  of  those  from  whom  such 
respective  taxes  are raised—(Mr.  Walter Roch) : 
—And  a Debate  arising thereupon  ; 

And  it  being  Eleven  of  the  clock,  the  Debate 

stood  adjourned. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

The  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill  was,  according  Trustees'  

Accounts 
Bui. 


to  Order,  read  a second  time. 

A  Motion  was  made, and the  Question  being 
put,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a  Select 
Committee—(Mr.  Stewart-Smith) :—It  passed in 
the  Negative. 

The  Bill  was committed  to  a  Standing  Com­

mittee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Law  of 
Second Reading  of the  Law  of  Murder (Amend- Murder 
mont)  Bill ; 

(Amendment) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Deaths 
Second  Reading  of the  Deaths  Registration  and  Begistration 
.  i  T> Mi 
i> 
and Burials 
gill. 
liurials  l i i l l; 

Ordered, That  the  Hill be  read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  the  Outdoor  Belief 

Second  Reading  of  the  Outdoor  Relief  Friendly 
Societies  ( Scotland) Bill; 

(Scotland) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time BiU­

upon  Thursday-next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial industrial 
Tools  Bill; 

10018 

-  

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  road a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

G  4 



Nurses
(Registration)
BifL

48 

9/7/ March. 

1909, 

[No.   i a 

The  Order   oi  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

  Second  Reading  of  the  Nurses  C Registration) 

Ordered, That  the  postponed  Resolution  be 

taken into  consideration  to-morrow. 

Bill j 

. 

* 

Ordered\  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  the  17th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself  Consolidated 
™ d ( N o - n

into  a  Committee  on  the  Consolidated  Fund
(No.  1)  Bill. 

Oaths Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Oaths  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses No.  1 and  No.  2 agreed  to. 

Bill  to  be  reportedi 

Pedlars Acts 
Amendment 
BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend­
ment  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Privileges. 

Mr.  Attorney  General,  Sir  Henry  Aubrey-
Fletcher, Mr.  Balfour, Mr. Ellis,  Mr.  MacNeill,
the  Prime  Minister,  and  Mr.  John  Wilson 
(Durham)  were  nominated  Members  of  the 
Committee  of  Privileges. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair  ; 
and  the  Deputy  Chairman  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had  gone  through  the  Bill,  and 
directed  him to report the  same, without  Amend­
ment. 

Ordered, That  the Bill be  read  the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament 
Bill;  

Bm" 

Ordered, That  the  Committee  have  power  to 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

send for persons, papers, and  records. 

to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That  Five  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee.—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

Debtors 
(Imprison­
ment.) 

Ordered, That a Select Committee  be appointed 
to  inquire  into  the  existing  Law  relating to the 
Imprisonment  of  Debtors, and to  report  whether 
any  amendments are  desirable. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary of the Board  the Board  of 
^Fisheries 
of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill be  read  a  second  time  BllL 

to-morrow. 

The  Committee was accordingly  nominated  of 
Mr.  Stopford  Brooke,  Mr.  Byles,  Mr.  Stephen
Collins,  Mr.  Delany,  Mr.  Robert  Duncan,  Mr. 
Ferens,  Mr.  Gibbs,  Mr.  Hodge,  Mr.  Keswick,
Mr. John Phillips, Mr.  Pickersgill,  Mr. Rendall,
Mr.  Wadsworth,  Lord  Willoughby  de Eresbg, and 
Mr.  Wills. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways and 

Committee of  Ways  and  Means ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Ordered, That  the  Committee  have  power  to 

send for  persons, papers, and  records. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan-  Town 
Planning,  &c. 
ning, &c.  Bill; 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  Five  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Supply 
[3rd  March] 
Report. 

The  postponed  proceeding  on  the  Question, 
That  this  House doth agree  with  the  Committee 
in  the  Resolution,  That  a  supplementary  sum 
not exceeding  £610  be granted  to  His  Majesty, 
to defray  the charge  which  will  come  in  course 
of  payment  during  the  year  ending  on the  31st 
day of  March  1909 for the Salaries and  Expenses 
of  the Department of  His  Majesty's  Secretary of 
State  for  the Colonies, was resumed. 

And  the  Question being put:— It was resolved 

in the Affirmative. 

The  Fourth,  Fifth,  Sixth,  Seventh,  and 
Eighth  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second  time, 
were  agreed  to. 

The  Ninth  Resolution,  That  a supplementary 
sum  not  exceeding  £4,000  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty, to defray the  charge  which  will  come 
in  course of  payment during the  year  ending  on 
the  31st day of  March  1909  for the  Salaries and 
Expenses  of  the  Customs  Department,  being 
read  a second  time; 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  this  House  doth  agree 
with  the  Committee  in  the  said  Resolution:— 
And  a Debate  arising  thereupon ; 

And  a Motion being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  put,  That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned 
—(Mr.  Levertori  Harris)  : —  It  passed  in  the 
Negative. 

And  the  Original  Question  being  put:—It 

was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Revenue  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Buildings and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Buildings  and Engineer-  Engineering 
ing  Works  Bill ; 
Works  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London 
Second  Reading  of  the London  Electric  Supply  Electric 
Bill; 

Supply  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

And  it being  after  half-past  Eleven  of  the  

clock,  Mr. Deputy Speaker  adjourned  the  

House  without  Question  put j  pursuant  

to  the  Standing  Order,  it  being  then  

thirteen  minutes  before  Twelve  of  the 
clock,  till  to-morrow.  


 
 


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1-Oft  March.  	

49 

[No.  17.] 

Convent  of  Our Lady of  Charity,  Waterlooville, 
Hants. 

Ordered, That the said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Wednesday, 10th March  1909. 

Table. 

The  House  met at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

Mr. Speaker's 	 THE  Clerk  at the  Table  informed  the  House 

Absence, 

of the unavoidable absence of Mr.  Speaker, 
owing  to  continued  indisposition, from this day's 
Sitting:—Whereupon  Mr.  Emmott,  the  Chair­
man  of  Ways  and  Means,  proceeded  to  the 
Table,  and,  after  Prayers,  took  the  Chair  as 
Deputy  Speaker,  in  pursuance  of  the  Standing 
Order. 

Prayers. 	

Northern 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Great Central,  Second  Reading  of  the  Great  Northern,  Great 
and  Great 
Railways Bill.  Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

Central, and Great  Eastern  Railways  Bill; 

upon  Monday  next. 

Glamorgan 
Water  Board 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the Glamorgan  Water Board 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Oldham 
Corporation  Second  Reading  of  the  Oldham  Corporation 
Bill. 

Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Aidershot Gas 
and Water 
BllK 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of the Aidershot  Gas and Water 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Pontypridd 
Water  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Pontypridd  Water  B i l l; 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Kirkwall 
Water 
Provisional 
Order Bill. 

The  House, according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Kirkwall  Water 
Provisional  Order  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  the third time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented  a  Bill  to 
Land 
Drainage 
confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Land 
Provisional 
Order  Bill. 	 Drainage  Act,  1861, in the matter of  a proposed 
drainage  district  in the  Parish  of  Ouston,  in  the 
County  of  Lincoln :  And  the  same was read  the 
first time. 

Bill  83. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be  printed. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the  Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  First 
Report. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Ambulance 
Service  in the  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the 
Metropolis 
(Departmental  Departmental  Committee on Ambulance  Service 
Committee.) 

in  the  Metropolis.  Yol.  I.,  Report  and  Ap­
pendices.  Vol.  II.,  Minutes of  Evidence. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur-
Penal 
Servitude  Acts suant to the directions  of  an Act   of  Parliament, 
(Conditional  —Copy  of  Licence  granted  under  the  Penal 
Licence.) 
Servitude  Acts  to  Emma  Snell, a convict  under 
detention  in  Aylesbury  Prison,  permitting  her 
to  be  at  large  on  condition  that  she  enter  the 

VOL.  164. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Treaty Series 
His Majesty's Command,—Copy  of International (No- 6> l909-> 
Agreement  respecting  the creation  of  an  Inter­
national  Office  of  Public  Health.  Signed  at 
(Proc&s-verbal 
Rome,  9th  December  1907. 
recording  deposit  of  Ratifications  at  Rome, 
dated  15th  November  1908.) 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr. Hobhouse presented, pursuant to  the  direc-Navy 
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—Annual (Dockyard 
Expense 
Accounts  for  the  year  1907-8  of  Shipbuilding Accounts, 
and  Dockyard  Transactions,  &c., 
including 1907-8.) 
Manufactures  ;  together  with the  Report of  the  No.  61. 
Comptroller  and Auditor  General thereon. 

Annual  Accounts  of the  cost of  manufacturing Navy 

Provisions,  Victualling  Stores,  and  Seamen's (Victualling 
Yard Manu-
Clothing  (Hair  Beds)  at the  Home  Victualling facturing 
Yards  and  Malta  Yard,  for  the  year  1907-8, Accounts, 
with the  Report  of  the  Comptroller and  Auditor 1907-8.) 
General  thereon. 

No.  62. 

„ Ordered, That  the  said Papers  do lie upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before this House Agrarian 

a  Copy  of  classified  Return  of  Agrarian 
Outrages  of  an  indictable  character  reported 
throughout  Ireland  in  each  of  the  vears  1906, 
1907, and  1908.—(Mr. Lonsdale.) 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-Expulsion of 

sented to His Majesty, that He will be graciously  Aliens. 

E

leased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
efore this  House  Correspondence  between  the 
Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department 
and  His  Honour  Judge  Rentoul,  K.C.,  on  the 
subject  of  the  Expulsion  of  Aliens.  —  (Mr. 
Secretary Gladstone.) 

Mr.  Toulmin  reported  from  the  Select  Com-  Publications 

mittee  on  Publications  and  Debates  Reports  ; g°do^&bates 
That they had made certain arrangements  (which 
had  received  Mr.  Speaker's  sanction)  for  the 
Official Reports  of  Debates  in  the  House,  and 
that  they  had  directed  him  to  make  a  Special  Special 
Report  thereon  to  the  House. 
Report. 

Ordered, That the  Special  Report  do lie  upon  No. 60. 


the Table ;  and be  printed.  


Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had been  brought  from  the  Lords  by  tlie  Lords, 
one of their  Clerks,  as folioweth  : 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Zetland 

Act  to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the ^nd Widow? 
Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,   a i l (j  orphans 
1899, relating  to the  Zetland  Masonic  Sick  and Fund Order 
Widows and Orphans Fund;  to which the Lords 
desire the concurrence  of  this  House.

1

The  Zetland  Masonic  Sick  and  Widows  and  Zetland 
Orphans Fund  Order  Confirmation  Bill  [Lords}  Masonic Sick 
was  ordered  (under  Section  7  of  the  P r i v a t e J J gi 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899)  to  Fund Order 
be  taken  into  consideration  upon  Friday  next.  Confirmation 
r 

J 

Bill [Lords.], 

Mr.  Findlay,  supported  by  Mr.  Beale,  Mr.  Feus and 

Hodge,  Mr.  John  Deans  Hope,  Mr.  Laidlaw,
Mr.  Menzies,  Mr.  Murray  Macdonald,  Mr.   (Scotland) 
Eugene Wason, and  Mr. Dundas White, presented  Bill, 
a  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  relating  to  Feus  and  Bill 84. 
Leases  for  building  in  Scotland :  And  the same 
H 

50 	

llth—12th—mil 

March. 

1909. 

[No. 19. 

was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Thursday  the  18 th  day  of  this  instant  March ; 
and to be printed. 

Mr.  Hedges,  supported  by  Mr.  Brodie,  Mr. 
Voters 
(Qualification  Marnham,  Mr.  Micklem,  and  Mr.  Rowlands,
and Registra­ presented  a Bill  to  amend  the  Law  relating  to 
tion)  Bill. 
the qualification  and registration  of  Voters,  and 
for  other  purposes  relating  to  Elections:  And 
the same was ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time 
upon Friday the  19th day of  this instant  March ; 
and to  be printed. 

Bill  85. 

passionate  Allowances  and  Gratuities,  and  of  Allowances  

Payments  under  the Workmen's  Compensation a nd  Grataitie3°  

Acts, which will come in course of payment during 

the year ending on the 31st day of  March 1910. 

The  First  Resolution,  That  a  number  of 
Land  Forces  not  exceeding  183,200, all ranks, 
be  maintained  for  the  Service  of  the  United 
Kingdom  of  Great  Britain  and Ireland  at Home 
and  Abroad,  excluding  His  Majesty's  Indian 
Possessions, during  the  year ending  on the 31st 
day of  March  1910, being read a second  time; 

Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

Bill  86. 

Business of 
the House 
(Supply.) 

Mr.  Kilbride, supported  by Sir Francis Chan-
ning,  Mr.  Courthope,  Mr.  Shackleton, and  Mr. 
Richardson,  presented a Bill  to  provide  for  the 
further  prevention  of  the  fraudulent,  sale  of 
Margarine :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be 
read  a second time upon  Thursday  the 18th day 
of  this instant  March ;  and to  be printed. 

A  Motion was made, and  the  Question  being 
put,  That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Business of 
Supply,  if  under  discussion  when  the Business 
is postponed  this day, be resumed  and proceeded 
with, though  opposed,  after  the  interruption  of 
Business—(The  Prime  Minister) ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
thereunto,  by  leaving  out 
"  183,200,"  and 
inserting  "  173,200 "—(Mr,  Lupton),—instead 
thereof. 

And  the  Question  being put, That  "  183,200 " 
stand  part  of  the  said  Resolution:—It  was 
resolved  in the Affirmative. 

And  the Resolution  was agreed  to. 
Then the subsequent  Resolutions,  being read 

a second  time, were agreed to. 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself Supply, 

into the  Committee  of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Civil  Services  Supplementary  Estimates,  

1908-9. 


The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to the  Right;  

The  Noes to the  Left.  

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease,


Yeas, 

„ 
m  „ 
Tellers for  the I 
JNoes, 

(Master  of  Elibank: 
fSir  Alexander Acland-

^ 

[Viscount  Valentia: 

Class  III. 

260. 

65. 

1.  £17,380  (supplementary  sum),  the  year 
ending  on  the  31st day  of  March  1909,  for  the 
Expenses  of the Prisons  in  England, Wales, and 
the  Colonies. 

Class  IV. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Supply 
f9th  March] 
Report. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported 
from the  Committee of  Supply  of the 9th day  of 
this  instant  March  several  Resolutions;  which 
were  read,  as follow : 

Land  Forces. 

Pay, 
Allowances, 
&c. 

Army  Estimates,  1909-10. 
1.  That a number of Land Forces not  exceed­
ing  183,200,  all  ranks,  be  maintained  for  the 
Service  of  the  United  Kingdom  of  Great 
Britain  and  Ireland  at  Home  and  Abroad, 
excluding  His  Majesty's  Indian  Possessions, 
during the year ending on the 31st day of  March 
1910. 

2.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £8,527,000  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  defray the  Expense 
of  the  Pay,  &c.  of  His  Majesty's  Army  (in­
cluding  Army  Reserve)  at  Home  and  Abroad 
(exclusive  of  India),  which  will  come  in course 
of  payment during  the year  ending  on the  31st 
day  of  March  1910. 

3.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £1,762,000  be 
Half  Pay, 
Retired Pay,  granted to  His  Majesty,  to  defray the  Expense 
and other 
of  Rewards, Half  Pay,  Retired  Pay,  Widows' 
Non-effective 
Charges for  Pensions,  and  other  Non-effective  Charges for 
Officers,  which will come  in course  of  payment 
Officers. 
during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of 
March  1910. 

4.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £1,868,000  be 
Pensions 
and other 
granted  to  His  Majesty,  to defray the  Expense 
Non-effective 
of  Chelsea  and  Kilmainham  Hospitals,  Out-
Charges for 	
Pensions,  Rewards  for  Distinguished  Services, 
Warrant 	
Officers, Non- Widows'  Pensions,  and  other  Non-effective 
commissioned 
Officers, 	
and Men. 	

Charges  for  Warrant  Officers,  Non-commis­
sioned  Officers, and Men,  &c.,  which  will  come 
in course  of  payment during the year ending  on 
the 31st day of  March  1910. 

5.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £158,000  be 
Civil Super-
annuation, 
granted to  His  Majesty,  to  defray the Expense 
Compensation, 
Compassionate   0 1  Civil  Superannuation,  Compensation,  Com­

2.  £11,890  (supplementary  sum),  the  year 
ending  on  the  31st  day of  March  1909,  for  a 
Grant  in  Aid  for the purchase of  a  Picture  for 
the  National  Gallery. 

Civil  Services  and Revenue  Departments  

(Excesses),  1907-8.  

3.  £1,380 4s.  10d., to  make good  excesses  on 
certain  Grants  for  Civil  Services  and Revenue 
Departments  for  the  year  ended  on  the  31st 
day  of  March  1908, viz. :— 

Class  III. 

s.  d. 
Yote  3.  Supreme  Court of  Judicature  1,370  4  10 

£ 

Revenue  Departments. 

Vote 3.  Post  Office 

-	

10  0  0 

£1,380  4  10 

Resolutions  to be  reported. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair; 
and  the  Deputy  Chairman  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had come to several  Resolutions. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  also  acquainted  the 
House  that  he  was  directed  to move,  That  the 
Committee may have leave to sit again. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again  resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  Supply 

to  take  into  consideration  the  First  of  the H^March] 
Resolutions  which,  upon  the  9th  day  of  this (postponed 
instant  March,  were  reported  from  the  Com-  Resolution.) 
mittee of  Supply  of the  3rd  day of  this instant 
March,  and  which  Resolution  was  then  post­
poned ;  and  the  same  was  again  read,  as 
followeth: 

No.  10.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

1st—2nd  March. 

51 

That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding 
Unemployed 
Workmen Act,  £ 1 0 0 , 0 00  be  granted to  His  Majesty, to defray 
the charge  which  will come  in course of payment 
1905. 
during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of 
March 1909 for Contributions in Aid of Expenses 
under the  Unemployed  Workmen  Act,  1905. 

Fair Wages 
Clause. 	

And  it being  a quarter  of  an hour  after  Eight 
of  the  clock,  further proceeding  was  postponed 
without  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing 
Order  No.  4. 

A  Motion  was  made, and  the  Question  being 
proposed,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House, 
the  Fair Wages  Clause  in Government  contracts 
should  be  so  amended  as  to  provide  that  the 
contractor  shall, under  penalty,  pay  to  all  the 
workmen 
in  his  employ  not  less  than  the 
minimum  standard  rate  of  wages  recognised 
by  trade  societies  in  the  district  where  such 
men  are employed, and shall observe  the  recog­
nised  hours  and  proper  conditions  of  labour; 
and if  there  shall  be  no  such  standard  rate  of 
wages  or recognised hours and  proper  conditions 
of  labour  in  such  district, the  contractor  shall 
pay  to  such workmen not less than the minimum 
standard  rate  of  wages  recognised  by  trade 
societies  customarily  executing  such  class  of 
work  in  the  nearest  district,  and  observe  the 
recognised  hours and proper conditions of labour 
prevailing  in  respect  of  the  particular trade  in 
the  nearest  district  in  which  such  men  are 
employed;  also,  that  the  contractor  shall  be 
prohibited  from  sub-letting  any  portion  of  his 
contract,  except  where  the  Department  con­
cerned  specially  allows  the  sub-letting  of  such 
special  portions  of  the  work  as  could  not  be 
produced  or  carried  out  by  the  contractor  in 
the  ordinary  course  of  his  business ;  and  any 
such sub-contractor  shall  be  subject  to the same 
conditions  as the contractor—(Mr.  Hodge) ; 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  in  1. 2, by leaving  out  from  the 
word  "  Wages  " to  the end of  the  Question, and 
adding  the  words  "  Clauses  in  Government 
contracts should  be  so  amended  as  to  provide 
as  follows :—The  contractor  shall,  under  the 
penalty  of  a  fine  or  otherwise,  pay  rates  of 
wages  and  observe  hours  of  labour  not  less 
favourable  than  those  commonly  recognised  by 
employers  and trade  societies (or, in the  absence 
of  such recognised  wages and hours, those which 
in  practice  prevail  amongst  good  employers)  in 
the  trade in the district where the work is carried 
out.  Where  there  are  no  such  wages  and 
hours  recognised  or  prevailing  in  the  district, 
those  recognised  or  prevailing  in  the  nearest 
district  in  which  the  general  industrial  circum­
stances are similar  shall  be  adopted.  Further, 
the conditions of  employment  generally  accepted 
in the  district  in  the  trade  concerned  shall  be 
taken into  account  in  considering  how far  the 
terms  of  the  Fair  Wages  Clauses  are  being 
observed.  The  contractor  shall  be  prohibited 
from  transferring  or  assigning,  directly  or 
indirectly,  to  any  person  or  persons  whatever, 
any portion  of  his  contract  without  the  written 
permission  of  the  Department. 
Sub-letting, 
other  than  that  which  may  be  customary  in 
the  trade  concerned, shall  be  prohibited.  The 
contractor  shall  be  responsible  for  the  observ­
ance  of  the  Fair  Wages  Clauses  by  the  sub­
contractor "—(Mr.  Sydney  Buxton),—instead 
thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the words 
left  out  stand  part  of  the 

proposed  to  be 
Question :—It  passed in the  Negative. 

And  the  Question being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  added:—And  a Debate  arising 
thereupon; 
Y O L.  164. 

Mr.  Sydney  Buxton  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed to  move, That the  Question be  now put. 

And  the	  Question  being  put,  That  the Question put 
Question  be  now  put:—It  was resolved  in the (Pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
Affirmative	 
of Debate.) 
Amrmative.	 

And  the  Question  being  accordingly  put,  

That  those  words  be  there  added  :—It  was  

resolved  in the  Affirmative.  


Then  the  Main  Question,  so  amended,  being 

put; 

Resolved, That,  in  the opinion  of  this  House, 

the  Fair  Wages  Clauses  in  Government  con­
tracts  should  be  so  amended  as  to  provide  as 
follows:—The  contractor  shall, under a  penalty 
of  a  fine  or  otherwise, pay  rates  of  wages  and 
observe  hours of labour not less  favourable  than 
those  commonly  recognised  by  employers  and 
trade  societies  (or,  in  the  absence  of  such 
recognised  wages  and  hours,  those  which  in 
practice  prevail  amongst  good  employers)  in 
the  trade  in  the  district  where  the  work  is 
carried  out.  Where  there  are  no  such wages 
and hours recognised or prevailing in the district, 
those  recognised  or  prevailing  in  the  nearest 
district  in which  the  general  industrial  circum­
stances  are  similar  shall  be  adopted.  Further, 
the conditions of employment generally  accepted 
in  the  district  in  the  trade concerned  shall  be 
taken  into  account  in  considering  how far  the 
terms  of  the  Fair  Wages  Clauses  are  bein; 
observed.  The  contractor  shall  be  prohibits 
from  transferring  or  assigning,  directly  or 
indirectly,  to  any  person  or  persons  whatever, 
any  portion  of  his  contract  without  the  written 
permission  of  the  Department.  Sub-letting, 
other  than  that  which  may  be  customary  in 
the  trade  concerned,  shall  be  prohibited.  The 
contractor  shall  be  responsible  for  the  observ­
ance  of  the  Fair  Wages  Clauses  by  the  sub­
contractor. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 

Second  Reading of  the Local  Authorities (Taxa- Authorities 
tion and Purchase  of  Land)  Bill;  
PurchaTof 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time  Land)  Bill, 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cruelty  to 
Second  Reading  of  the  Cruelty  to  A n i m a ls   Animals Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  18th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  clerks of  the 

Second  Reading  of the  Clerks  of  the Peace  and peace  a n  d 
County  Councils  Bill; 

c Z  l  B01. 

Ordered, That the Bill be read  a  second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  18th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the justices of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Justices  of  the  Peace t he Peaoe  Bil1* 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Death 

Second  Reading  of 
(Charges)  Bill; 

the  Death  Certificates  Certificates 
^harges) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Hours of 
Second  Reading  of  the  flours  of  Labour  (Sur-  Labour 
facemen)  Bill;  

^Surfacemen) 

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llth—12th—mil 

[No.  19. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Pedlars Acts 
Amendment 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend­
ment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Supply 
£3rd March] 
Report. 

The  postponed  proceeding  on  consideration 
of  the  Resolution,  That  a  supplementary  sum 
not  exceeding  £100,000  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty, to  defray the  charge  which  will  come 
in  course  of  payment  during  the  year  ending 
on  the  31st  day  of  March  1909  for  Contribu­
tions  in Aid  of  Expenses  under  the Unemployed 
Workmen  Act,  1905, was resumed. 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
leaving  out  "  £100,000,"  and 
thereunto,  by 
inserting  "  £99,900"—(Mr.  Wardle),—instead 
thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That 
"  £100,000 "  stand part of  the  said  Resolution  : 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after Twelve  of the  clock on Thursday  morning; 

Thursday, l\th  March  1909: 
And  the  Question  being  put  : —  It  was 

resolved in the Affirmative. 

And  the  Resolution  was agreed  to. 

Consolidated
Fund (No. l)
Bill 

The  Consolidated  Fund  (No.   I)  Bill  was, 
  according  to  Order,  read  the  third  time  and 

passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

Secretary of 
the Board of 
Agriculture 
and Fisheries 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this day. 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan­
ning, &c.  Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read a second time 

this day. 

March. 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

1909. 

upon  Monday  next. 

And  it being  after half-past  Eleven  of  the 
clock on Wednesday  evening, Mr.  Deputy 
Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without 
Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing 
Order,  it  being  then  nineteen  minutes 
after Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Thursday 
morning, till this day. 

S T A N D I NG  C O M M I T T E E S. 

Distribution  by  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker,  pursuant  

to  Standing  Order No. 47, of  Bills  committed  

to  a  Standing  Committee.  


Name  of  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee, 

Trustees'  Accounts  Bill  -

A . 

[No.  18.] 

Thursday, 1 Ith  March  1909. 

The  House  met at a quarter  of  an hour 

before  Three  of the  clock.  


T

P  R A Y E K S. 
HE  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Jones's 

Second  Reading  of Jones's  Almshouse  and  Almshouse and 

Grammar  School  Foundation  Bill; 

Grammar 
School 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  Foundation 

upon  Thursday  the  25th  day  of  this  instantBil1' 
March. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Harwich 

Second  Reading  of  the  Harwich  Docks  Bill; 

Docks Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  25th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Great  Central 

Second  Reading  of  the  Great  Central Railway  Railway 
(Various  Powers)  Bill; 

_

^  V 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 
upon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after  Eight of  the  clock. 

A  Bill  to  empower  the  London  County  London 
Council to construct and work new tramways and  County 
to  alter  and  reconstruct  existing  tramways, (tramways 
and  make  new  streets and street improvements  and  Improve-
and other works;  to purchase  the Highgate  Hill  ments) Bill. 
Tramways, and for other purposes, was presented, 
and read  the  first  time ;  and ordered to be  read 
a second  time. 

Buildings and 
Engineering 
Works Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the  Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the London  Electric  Supply 
Bill; 

A  Bill  to  authorise  the  Midland  Great  Midland  Great 

Western  Railway  of  Ireland  Company  to  con- 
struct  new  railways  and  acquire  additional ireian^Bill. 
lands;  to  construct  tramways  in  the  City  of 
Dublin  ;  to  close  the Broadstone  Branch  of  the 
Royal  Canal,  Dublin;  to  provide  and  work 
steam vessels, and  for  other  purposes,  was pre­
sented, and read the  first  time ;  and  referred to 
the  Examiners of Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

o£ 

 
 
No.  10.]  9  EDW.  V I I. 

1st—2nd  March. 

53 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  First 
Report. 

Charity 
Commission 
<Bngland and 
Wales.) 

Expulsion  of  

Aliens. 


N o.  63.  


Several  Public  Petitions were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,  —  Copy  of  Fifty-sixth 
Report  of  the  Charity  Commissioners for  Eng­
land  and Wales,  being for the  year  1908. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  also  presented,— 
Return  to  an  Address to  His  Majesty,  dated  the 
10th  day  of  this  instant  March,  for  a  Return 
relative  to Expulsion  of  Aliens. 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers  do lie upon  the 

Table ;  and that the  said  Return  be printed. 

Board  of 
Education. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Board  of 
Education  for  the year  1907-8. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported  Leyland  and 
the  Leyland  and  Farington  Gas  Bill,  with B^ington  G as 
Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table ;  and be  printed.  


The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported  Hastings 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Hastings  Harbour  H a r b o ur  BllL 
Bill;  That  they  had  examined  the  allegations 
contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and 
amended  the  same  by  striking  out  one  of  the 
recitals,  and  found  the same,  as amended,  to  be 
true;  and had gone through  the  Bill  and  made 
Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


The  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means reported  Wandsworth  


the Wandsworth  Borough  Council  (Superannua­
tion)  Bill,  with  Amendments. 

(Superannua-


Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the t i o n ) B UL 

Savings  Banks 
•(Ireland.) 

Ordered, That  there be laid  before this  House 

Table ;  and be  printed.  


a Return  containing the following  tables  :— 

(I.)  Table  arranged  according  to  counties 
showing, for  each Post  Office  Savings  Bank 
in Ireland  remaining  open  on  the  31st  day 
of  December  1907,  (1)  the  number  of 
accounts of  depositors  therein ;  and (2)  the 
total amount, inclusive  of  interest,  standing 
to  the  credit  of  those  accounts  on the  31st 
day  of  December  of  the  years  1881,  1896, 
and  1907,  respectively,  with  a  summary 
showing the like  particulars for  each  county 
and for  all  Ireland : 

(II.)  Table  arranged  according  to  counties 
showing, for  each  Trustee  Savings  Bank in 
Ireland  remaining  open  on  the  20th day  of 
November  1907, (1) the number of  accounts 
of  depositors  therein;  and  (2)  the  total 
amount,  inclusive  of  interest,  standing  to 
the  credit  of  those accounts on the  20th  day 
of  November of  the years  1881,  1896,  and 
1907, respectively, with a summary  showing 
the like  particulars for  each  county  and for 
all  Ireland : 

(III.)  Table  for  each  county  and  for  all 
Ireland,  showing  (1)  the  number of  depo­
sitors'  accounts  and  the  total  amount  of 
deposits  in  Post  Office and  Trustee  Savings 
Banks  combined  on  the  dates  given  in 
Tables  I.  and  II.  in  the years  1881,  1896, 
and  1907, respectively ;  (2)  the  percentage 
by which  the total  deposits  so arrived  at for 
1907  exceeded  their  total  for  1881 ;  (3) 
the  percentage  by  which  the  total  rental 
dealt  with  under  the  Land  Law  (Ireland) 
Acts  in  the  period  from  the  22nd  day  of 
August  1881 to the  31st day of  March  1908 
has been  reduced  for a first statutory  term; 
(4)  the percentage  by  which  the  total first 
term rental  dealt  with  under  the  said  Acts 
in  the period  ended the  31st  day  of  March 
1908 has been further reduced  for  a second 
statutory  term;  and  (5)  the  percentage  by 
which  the  total  rental  which  has  been  re­
vised for two  statutory terms under the said 
Acts  in the said period  has been reduced  : 

(IV.)  Table  showing  the  total  amount of  the 
deposits and private  balances  (exclusive  of 
Government  deposits and London  accounts) 
in the Joint  Stock  Banks  in Ireland  on  the 
30th  day  of  June  in  the  years  1881,  1896, 
and  1908,  respectively,  and  the  percentage 
by which  such deposits and balances, on the 
30th  day  of  June  1908,  exceeded  their 
amount on the  30th day  of June  1881. 

-(Mr.  Butcher.)  

VOL.  164.  


Mr.  Partington  reported  the  North  Metro-  North 

politan  Electric  Power  Supply  Bill,  with Matropoiitan 
Amendments. 
Power  Supply 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the BlU" 


Table;  and be  printed.  


Mr.  Partington reported  from  the  Committee  Private  Bills 

on  Group  A  of  Private  Bills;  That,  for  the  < G r o uP A)
convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Wednesday  next, at Eleven  of  the 
clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-  Deaths from 
sented to His Majesty, that He  will be graciously
or 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
privation 
before  this  House  a  Return  of  the number of  (England  and 
Deaths in  England  and  Wales,  in the year  1908, W a , es ) 
upon  which  a  coroner's  jury  has  returned  a 
verdict  of  Death  from  Starvation,  or  Death 
accelerated  by  Privation;  together  with  any 
observations  furnished to the Local  Government 
Board by  boards of  guardians  with  reference  to 
cases included  in  the Return.—(Mr.  Talbot.) 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by  the  Lcrcls­
one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth  : 

The  Lords have  agreed  to  the  Consolidated  Consolidated 

Fnnd  (No.  1) Bill, without  any  Amendment. 

(No-

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An  Indian 
Act  to  amend the Indian  Councils  Acts,  1861  ^  ^ 
and  1892,  and  the  Government  of  India  Act,  1  L  or 
1833 ; to which the Lords desire the  concurrence 
of  this  House. 

. 

The  Indian  Councils  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  Indian 

the first time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a second  BijTrtwd? 1 
time upon  Monday  next;  and to  be printed. 

' Rin  gg 

Ordered,  That  the  Minutes of  Evidence  taken  Application  of 

before  the  Select  Committee  on  Application 
of  Sinking  Funds  in  exercise  of  Borrowing  Borrowing 
Powers, appointed  in the  last  Session  of  Parlia-  Powers, 
ment,  be  referred  to  the  Select  Committee  on 
Application  of  Sinking  Funds  in  exercise  of 
Borrowing  Powers.—(Mr.  Masternian.) 

Sir  George M' Crae, supported  by  Mr. Eugene  Ecclesiastical 

Wason, Mr.  Sutherland,  Mr.  Dundas White, Mr. 
Munro  Ferguson,  Mr.  Gulland, Mr.  M' Callum, 
* 
and  Mr.  Rainy,  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  gm  yy 

H  3 



 
[No.  18. 

£ 
2,500 
1,500 
6,000 

2,000 

10,000 

54 
in 
Law  regarding  Ecclesiastical  Assessments 
Scotland :  And  the  same was ordered to  be read 
a  second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

11th March. 

Open  Spaces 
(Scotland")
Bill. 

Bill 88. 

Sir George M'Crae, supported  by Mr. Younger,
Mr. Gulland, Mr. Mitchell- Thomson, Mr. Barnes,
Mr. Cleland,  and Mr.Dundas  White, presented a 
Bill  to facilitate the acquisition  of  Open  Spaces 
by  Local  Authorities  in  Scotland  :  And  the 
same was ordered to be  read a second  time  upon 
Monday  next;  and to  be  printed. 

Supply
£2ndd  allotted 
"2n  i •
Day.] 

The House, according to  Order, resolved itself 

into  the  Committee  of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Civil  Services and  Revenue  Departments 
Estimates,  1909-10  (Vote  on  Account). 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
a  sum  not  exceeding  £26,232,000  be  granted 
to  His  Majesty,  on  account,  for  or  towards 
defraying  the  charges  for  the  following  Civil 
Services  and Revenue  Departments for  the  year 
ending on the 31st day  of  March  1910,  viz.:— 

Civil Services. 

CLASS  I V. 

Board of  Education  -

CLASS   I . 

& 
• 7,000,000 

• 
-
• 
• 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Britain

Royal Palaces 
Osborne
-
Royal Parks and Pleasure  Gardens  -
Houses  of  Parliament  Buildings 
Salisbury Memorial 
-
Miscellaneous  Legal  Buildings,  Great 
-
Art and Science Buildings, Great Britain  -
Diplomatic  and Consular Buildings  ­
Revenue  Buildings 
Public Buildings,  Great  Britain 
Surveys  of  the United  Kingdom 
Harbours under the Board  of  Trade ­
Peterhead Harbour 
Rates  on Government  Property 
Public Works  and Buildings,  Ireland 
Railways,  Ireland 

-

-

-

20,000 
5,000 
64,000 
23,000 
1,000 

35,000 
36,000 
30,000 
226,000 
260,000 
90.000 
26,000 
10,000 
300,000 
100,000 
35,000 

CLASS  I I  . 

United Kingdom  and England  : 

House  of  Lords Offices 
House  of  Commons Offices 
Treasury and subordinate Departments 
Home  Office 
Foreign  Office 

-

-

Colonial  Office 
Privy  Council Office - , 
-
Board  of  Trade 
Mercantile Marine Services 
Bankruptcy Department  of  the  Board of 
-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Trade 

-
Board  of  Agriculture and Fisheries  ­
Charity Commission  ­
Civil  Service  Commission  -
Exchequer and Audit  Department 
Friendly  Societies Registry 
Local Government  Board ­
Lunacy  Commission  ­
Mint  (including  Coinage)  -
National Debt  Office -
-
Public Record  Office
Public Works Loan  Commission 
Registrar  General's Office  ­
Stationery and Printing 
Woods, Forests,  &c.,  Office of 
Works and Public  Buildings,  Office of 
-
Secret Service
Scotland : 

 -

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

10,000 
20,000 
40,000 
75,000 
24,000 
25,000 
5,000 
100,000 
25,000 

3
75,000
15,000
17,000
25,000
3,500
85,000
5,500
10
6,000
10,000
1,000
15,000
330,000
8,000
37,000
40,000

Secretary for Scotland,  Office of 
Fishery Board

-

-

-

-

-

-

25,000 
7,000 

Lunacy  Commission  -
-
Registrar  General's  Office -
Local Government  Board -

. 

. 

-

-

. 
-

Ireland: 

Lord Lieutenant's Household 
Chief  Secretary's  Offices and  subordinate 
-
-
Department  of  Agriculture  and  Technical 

Departments  -

-

-

-

-

Instruction

-

-

-

-

-

Charitable Donations and Bequests  Office -
-
Local Government  Board  -
-
-
-
Public Record  Office -
-
Public Works  Office  -
-
Registrar General's  Office -
-
Valuation and Boundary  Survey 

-
-

-

-

- 100,000 
1,000 
30,000 
2,000 
16,000 
5,000 
7,000 

CLASS  I I I. 

United Kingdom  and England  : 
-
-

-

Law  Charges 
-
-
Miscellaneous Legal Expenses  -
-
Supreme  Court  of  Judicature 
-
Land Registry 
-
Public  Trustee  -
-
County  Courts

-
-

-
-

-

-

-

-
-

-

-

-

-

Police, England and Wales 
Prisons, England and the Colonies 
Reformatory and Industrial Schools, Great 
-

Britain  -

-

-

-

-

-

Broadmoor Criminal Lunatic  Asylum 

Scotland: 

Law  Charges and Courts  of  Law 
Register House, Edinburgh
Crofters Commission
Prisons

  ­
-

-

-

. 

. 

-
-

-
-

. 
-
-

Ireland  : 

Law Charges and Criminal Prosecutions 
-
Supreme  Court  of  Judicature  and  other 

40,000 
28,000 
150,000 
16,000 
300 
2 
15,000 
330,000 

140,000 
25,000

30,000 
15,000 
2,000 
35,000 

25,000 

-

-

-

Legal Departments 
-

Land  Commission 
County Court  Officers, &c. 
Dublin Metropolitan  Police 
-
Royal Irish  Constabulary  -
-
-
Prisons 
Reformatory and Industrial  Schools 
Dundrum  Criminal Lunatic  Asylum 

-
-
-
-

-

-

-

-

-

-

43,000 
120,000 
40,000 
60,000 
630,000 
45,000 
55,000 
4,000 

CLASS  I V. 

-

United Kingdom  and England : 
-

-
British Museum 
National  Gallery 
-
National Portrait  Gallery  -
Wallace  Collection 
-
Scientific Investigation,  &c. 
Universities  and  Colleges,  Great  Britain, 

-

-

-

-

-

60,000  ' 
8,000 
3,000 
3,000 
28,000 

and Intermediate  Education,  Wales 

75,000 

Scotland: 

Public Education 
National Gallery 

-
-

-

-

-

Ireland : 
Public Education 
Endowed Schools  Commissioners 
National Gallery 
Queen's Colleges 

-
-

-

-

-

CLASS   V . 

Diplomatic  and Consular Services 
Colonial  Services 
Telegraph  Subsidies and Pacific Cable 
Cyprus  (Grant  in Aid) 

-

CLASS  V I. 

Superannuation and Retired  Allowances  -
Miscellaneous  Charitable and other  Allow 
-

ances

-

-

-

-

-

-

Hospitals and  Charities,  Ireland 
Savings  Banks  and  Friendly  Societies 
-
-

Deficiencies 
Old Age  Pensions 

-

880,000 
3,000 

800,000 
400 
2,000 
2,500 

255,000 
370,000 
25,000 
49,000 

300,000 

1,150 
16,000 

4,000,000 

CLASS  V I I, 

Temporary  Commissions  -
Miscellaneous Expenses 
-
Repayments  to the Local  Loans Fund 

-

-

20,000 
4,635 

 
 
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No. 18.]  9  EDW.  Y IL 

11th  March 

55 

Ireland Development  Grant 
Relief  of  Distress  (Ireland) 
Government  Hospitality  -

Revenue  Departments. 
-

-

-

Customs and Excise­
Inland Revenue 
  . 
Post  Office

. 

. 

. 

. 

£ 

-  100,000 

5,000 

- 

700,000 
500,000 
-6,700,000 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may  have  leave  to 
sit again. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 
next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com-
mittee. 

The Order of  the day being read, for receiving  Supply 

Total for Civil  Services and Revenue 

Departments 

-  £26,232,000 

London 
County 
Council 
•(General 
Powers) Bill. 

Supply. 

Whereupon  Motion  made,  and  Question  pro­
posed, That  Item  Class  IV.,  Vote  1 (Board   of 
Education),  be  reduced  by  £100.—(Mr.  Joyn­
son-Hicks.) 

And  it being a quarter of  an hour after  Eight 
of  the  clock,  and  there  being  Private  Business 
set  down by  direction  of  the  Chairman  of  Ways 
and  Means  under  Standing  Order  No. 8, further 
proceeding was postponed without Question  put. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the London County  Council 
(General  Powers)  Bill; 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second time  ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question, by  leaving  out  the word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day  six  months." —  (Mr. 
Courthope.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 
" n o w"  stand  part  of  the  Question : — It  was 
resolved  in the Affirmative. 

And  the  Main  Question  being  put; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  now  read  a second 
time :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read a second 
time, and committed. 

Postponed  proceeding  on  the  Question  pro­
posed  on  consideration  of  the  Question,  That 
a  sum not  exceeding  £26,232,000  be granted  to 
His  Majesty,  on  account, for or towards  defray­
ing  the  charges  for  the  Civil  Services  and 
Revenue  Departments  for  the  year  ending  on 
the  31st day  of  March  1910 ; 

Which  Question  was, That  Item  Class  IV., 
Vote  1  (Board  of  Education),  be  reduced  by 
£100,  resumed. 

Question again proposed  : 

And 

it  being  Eleven  of  the  clock,  the 
Chairman  proceeded,  pursuant 
to  Standing 
Order  No.  15,  to  put  forthwith  the  Questions 
necessary to dispose of  the  Vote. 

Question  put,  That  Item  Class  IV.,  Vote  1 

(Board  of  Education), be  reduced  by  £100. 

the  Report  from the  Committee  of  Supply  of   [ 1 0 t  h  March] 
the  10th day  of  this instant  March ; 

eport

' 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament 
Bill;  

BiU-

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Board  the  Board of 
AAgriculture 
of Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill;
and Fisheries 

Ordered, That the  Bill be read a  second  time BU1­

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways and 

Committee of  Ways  and Means ; 

Means. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  P l a n - 1 ? ^ 
ning, &c. Bill; 

Planmng, &c. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  Inland 
Revenue  Bill;  

Revenue Bill. 

Ordered, That, the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap Trains 

Second  Reading  of  the  Cheap  Trains  Bill;

Bil1­

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next.. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Asylums 
Second  Reading  of  the Asylums  Officers' Super- Officers' 
annuation  Bill; 

' 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

S u T  " 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Payment of 
Second  Reading of  the Payment of  Rates  Bill;   Bates Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Contamination 

Second Reading  of  the  Contamination  of  Child- of  Children 
ren  Bill; 

Bai-

° 

The  Committee  divided. 
,, 

„ 

„ 
Tellers  for thej 
Yeas, 

H o o  ^ 

(Sir  Alexander  A eland-

[Viscount  Valentia  : 

)

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

75, 

upon Monday  next.  , 

Tellers  for  the I Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

I Master of  Elibank : 


}  178. 

Original  Question  put, and agreed  to.  

Resolution to be  reported.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Outdoor  Belief 

Second  Reading  of the  Outdoor  Relief  Friendly  Friendly 
Societies  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee had come to  a  Resolution. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Death 

Second  Reading  of 
(Charges)  Bill; 

the  Death  Certificates Certificates 

£ ^ r g e s) 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Monday  next. 
Vox..  164. 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

H  4 





56 

llth—12th—mil  March. 

1909. 

[No. 19. 

Hours  of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Honrs  of  Labour  (Sur­
facemen)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Licensing 
Second  Reading  of  the  Licensing  Justices  Bill;  Justices  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

! 

Pedlars Acts
Amendment

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

  Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend­

ment Bill  ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Maintenance 
Second  Reading  of  the  Maintenance  Provision  Provision  Bill. 
Bill j 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

r 

And  then  the  House, having  continued  to 
sit  till  thirteen  minutes  after  Eleven  of 
the clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Police  Super-

Second  Reading  of  the Police  Superannuation  annuatron 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

[No.  19.] 

Friday,  12th  March  1909. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Fruit 
Second  Reading  of  the  Fruit  Growers  (Scot-  Growers 
land)  Bill  ; 

(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

The  House  met  at  Twelve  of the  clock. 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

P R A Y E R S. 

TH E  Kirkwall  Water  Provisional  Order  Bill 

was,  according  to  Order,  read  the  third 

time  and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire  their  concurrence, 

The  House, according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Zetland  Masonic 
Sick  and  Widows  and  Orphans  Fund  Order 
Confirmation  Bill  [Lords]. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan- Town 
ning, &c.  Bill; 

Planning,  &e. 
BiU. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs  and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland Inland 
-D 
Kevenue  Bill; 

TI-N 

Revenue BJIL 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  the third  time 

upon Monday  next. 

upon  Monday  next. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read;  and ordered  to  lie upon the  Table. 

Ordered, That  there be laid  before  this  House 
a Return  showing  the  alcoholic  strength,  degree 
by  degree,  of  Wines  imported  to  this  country 
during the year  1908  in  cask  from  the  various 
countries  of  Europe,  Madeira,  Australia,  and 
other countries (in continuation of  Parliamentary 
Paper,  No.  94 of  Session  1908).—(Sir  Frederick 
Banbury.) 

Sale of 
Intoxicating 
Liquors  on 
Sunday  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Sale  of  Intoxicating 
Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill  ; 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to be made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  six  months."  —  (Mr. 
Staveley-Hill.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 

"  now "  stand part  of  the  Question ; 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put, pursuant  to  

Standing  Order  No.  3,  it  being  then 
seven  minutes  after Five  of  the  clock,  till  

Monday  next.  


[No.  20,]  

Monday, 15th March  1909.  


The  House  met  at a quarter of  an  hour  

before  Three  of the clock. 


P R A Y E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private  Bills,  


from  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for [Lords.']  


Private  Bills,  That  in respect  of  the following 

Bills,  introduced  pursuant  to  the  provisions  of  

the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  

Act,  1899,  and  which  the  Chairman  of  Ways  

and  Means  had  directed  to  originate  in  the  

House  of  Lords,  they  have  certified  that  the  

Standing  Orders  have  been  complied  with,  

viz,  :—  


Glasgow  Corporation.  

Dunoon  Burgh,  


Kirkwall 
Water 
Provisional 
Order  Bill. 

Zetland 
Masonic 
Sick  and 
Widows  and. 
Orphans 
Fund  Order 
Confirmation 
Bill [Lords.] 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  First 
Report. 

Wines 
Imported. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the I Mr. Higham, 

Yeas, 

1 Mr.  Charles  Roberts  


Tellers for the | Mr. Staveley-Hill, 
\Mr.  James Mason  : 

Noes, 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private  Bills 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for  (Standing 
Private  Bills, That  in  the case  of  the  following 
Bill, referred  on the  First  Reading  thereof, the  inquired  into-
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into,  complied 
and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have  beenwlt 
complied  with,  viz.:— 

J244. 

1 

J 

9. 

So  it was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
And  the  Main  Question  being  put: 
Ordered,  That  the Bill  be now  read a second 
time  :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  a second 
time, and  committed  to  a  Standing  Committee. 

North  West  London  Railway  Bill,  


Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second  time.  


Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Reports  private  Biiia 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for  (Standing  

Orders not 


 




1st—2nd  March. 

5 7 


No.  10.]  9  EDW.  V I I. 
previously 
inquired into 
not complied 
witli.) 

Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the following 
Bills,  referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, 
the  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired 
into, and which  are  applicable  thereto, have  not 
been  complied  with,  viz.:— 

Kilkenny,  Castlecomer,  and  Athy  Railway 

Bill. 

Midland  Great  Western Railway  of Ireland 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Reports  be referred to the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

London 
Electric 
Supply Bill 
(Standing 
Orders 
applicable 
thereto not 
complied 
with.) 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the 
House  of  the  9 th  day  of  this  instant  March, 
That  in  the  case  of  the  following  Bill  the 
Standing  Orders  which  are  applicable  thereto 
have  uot been  complied with,  viz.  : — 
London  Electric  Supply  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  referred  to  the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

Cork, Bandon,
and South
Coast  Railway 
Bill. 
Harrogate Gas
Bil1­

  The  Cork, Bandon,  and  South  Coast  Railway 

JJJH w a  s  r e a  j  a  second  time, and  committed. 

  The  Harrogate  Gas  Bill  was  read  a second 
time, and  committed. 

West 
Gloucester­
shire Water 
Bill. 
Great-
Northern, 
Great  Central, 
and Great 
Eastern 
Railways  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  West  Gloucestershire 

Water  Bill  be  read a second  time  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Great  Northern,  Great 
Central,  and  Great  Eastern Railways  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  25th  day  of  this  instant 
March,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour  after  Eight  of 
the  clock. 

Glamorgan 
Water  Board 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Glamorgan  Water 
Board  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Oldham 
Corporation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Oldham  Corporation 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Aidershot  Gas 
and Water 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Aidershot  Gas  and 
Water  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Pontypridd 
Water  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pontypridd  Water  Bill; 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Zetland 
Masonic  Sick 
and  Widows 
and  Orphans 
Fund  Order 
Confirmation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Zetland  Masonic  Sick  and  Widows  and 
Orphans Fund  Order  Confirmation Bill  [Lords] 
was,  according  to  Order,  read  the  third  time 
and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 
the  Lords  ;  and acquaint  them  that this  House 
hath agreed  to the  same, without  Amendment. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  First 
Report. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read;  and  ordered  to  lie upon  the  Table. 

VOL.  164. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His Church 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Fifty-eighth Estates 
Report from the  Church  Estates  Commissioners, 
for the year preceding  1st March  1909. 

Commission. 

Copy  of  Report  of  the  Departmental  Com- Truck Acts 
mittee  on the  Truck Acts.  Vol. I  V.  Precis  of (Departmental 
Minutes of  Evidence  and  Appendices. 

Committee.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  also  presented,— Parliamentary 
Return to  an  Address  to  His  Majesty, dated  the  Constituencies 
17th  day of  February  last, for  a Return  relative (Electors, &c.) 
to  Parliamentary  Constituencies  (Electors,  &c.)  Kingdom.) 
(United  Kingdom). 
No.  64. 
Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  also  presented,  pur- Shop Hours 

(United 

suant  to the directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament, Act, 1904. 
—Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
Borough  of  Burnley  under the  Shop  Hours  Act, 
1904,  and  confirmed  by  the  Secretary  of  State 
for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the  hours  of 
closing  for  certain  classes of  Shops. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers do lie  upon the 

Table ;  and that the  said Return be  printed. 

Mr. Birrell  presented,—Return  to  an  Order,  Oflences 
dated  the  18th  day  of  February  last,  for  a (^and.) 
N o - 6 5­
Return  relative  to  Offences (Ireland). 

Ordered, That  the said Return  do lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Board  of 
Command,—Copy  of  Tables  of  Expenditure  on  Education. 
Agricultural  Education  (apart  from  Secondary 
Schools  and Elementary  Schools), 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir Edward  Grey presented, by  His  Trade  Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic and 
Consular  Reports, Annual  Series,  No.  4182. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

0 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His  Education 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Minute  of  the  (Scotland.) 
Committee of  Council  on Education  in  Scotland, 
dated  12th  March  1909, continuing the operation 
of  the  Scotch  Code  (1908). 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Welsh 

Command,—Copy  of  Report  to  the Treasury  of 
the  Committee  on  the  University  of  Wales and 
the  Welsh  University  Colleges. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  also presented,  pursuant  to  the  Duchy  of 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Account  Cornvva!l­
of  the  Receipts  and  Disbursements  of  the 
Duchy  of  Cornwall  for  the  year  ended  31st 
December  1908. 

Ordered, That the said  Papers  do lie upon  the 

Table ;  and  that the said  Account  be printed. 

The  following  Papers  were  laid  upon  the 

Table by  the  Clerk  of  the  House  :— 

Further Return to an Order,dated the 26th day  Inquiry into 

of  July  1905, for  a  Return  comprising  (1)  the panties 
Reports  made to  the  Charity  Commissioners  in jjevon.j ° 
the  result  of  an  Inquiry  held  in  every  parish 
wholly  or  partly  within  the  Administrative 
County  of  Devon  into  Endowments  subject  to 
the  provisions  of  the  Charitable  Trusts  Acts, 
1853  to  18.94, and  appropriated  in  whole or  in 
part  for  the  benefit  of  that  county,  or  of  any 
part  thereof,  together  with  the  Reports  on 
those  Endowments  of  the  Commissioners  for 
inquiring  concerning  Charities,  1818  to  1837; 
(2)  a Digest  showing, in  the  case  of  each such 

eg. 

 
 
Inquiry  into 
Charities 
(County of 
Berks.) 

No.  67. 

Irish  Land 
Purchase 
Fund. 

No.  69. 

Revenue 
(Collection  of 
Taxes.) 

58 

15 th March. 

1909. 

[No. 20. 

parish,  whether  any,  and,  if  any,  what  such 
Endowments  are  recorded  in  the  books  of  the 
Charity  Commissioners 
in  the  parish  ;  and 
(3)  an Index, alphabetically  arranged,  of  names 
and places mentioned  in the  Reports. 

Further Return to an Order, dated the 28th day 
of  March  1905,  for a  Return  comprising  (1)  the 
Reports  made to  the  Charity  Commissioners  in 
the  result  of  an  Inquiry  held  in  every  parish 
wholly  or  partly  within  the  County  of  Berks 
into  Endowments  subject  to  the  provisions  of 
the  Charitable  Trusts  Acts,  1853 to  1894,  and 
appropriated  in  whole  or in part  for the benefit 
of  that  county,  or of  any  part thereof,  together 
with  the  Reports  on  those  Endowments  of 
the  Commissioners  for  inquiring  concerning 
Charities,  1818 to  1837;  (2)  a Digest  showing, 
in the  case  of  each  such  parish,  whether  any, 
and, if  any, what such Endowments  are recorded 
in  the  books  of  the  Charity  Commissioners  in 
the  parish;  and  (3")  an  Index,  alphabetically 
arranged,  of  names and  places mentioned  in the 
Reports. 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc 
tions of  an Act   of  Parliament, was also laid  upon 
the Table by the Clerk  of the  House:—Accounts 
of  Receipts  and  Payments by the Commissioners 
for  the  Reduction  of  the  National  Debt  in 
respect  of  the  capital  and  income  of  the Irish 
Land  Purchase  Fund,  for  the  year  ended 31st 
March  1908  ;  together  with  the  Report  of  the 
Comptroller  and  Auditor  General  thereon. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers be  printed. 

Assent  to  an Act  agreed  upon   by  both  Houses,  

desire the immediate  attendance of this  Honour­
able  House  in the  House  of  Peers,  to  hear  the  

Commission  read.  


Accordingly  Mr.  Speaker,  with  the  House, 
And  being  


went  up  to  the  House  of  Peers 
returned; 


Mr.  Speaker  reported,  That  the  House,  at  

the desire  of  the  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  

His  Majesty's  Commission,  had  been  at  the  

House of  Peers, where a Commission  under  the  

Great  Seal  was  read,  giving,  declaring,  and  

notifying  the  Royal  Assent  to  the Act  therein  

mentioned;  and  that  the  Lords  thereby  autho­
rised  had  declared  the  Royal  Assent  to  the  

said  Act,  as followeth  :  


Consolidated  Fund  (No.  1)  Act,  1909. 

Mr.  Micklem, supported by Mr.  Stewart-Smith  Charitable 

and  Mr.  Arnold  Herbert,  presented  a  Bill  to Trusts  BilL 
amend  the  Charitable  Trusts  Acts,  1853  to 
1894  :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to be read a 
second  time  upon  Wednesday  the  21st  day  of 
April  next;  and to  be  printed. 

BU1  90. 

Captain  Craig, supported  by  Colonel  M'Cal-  Irish National 

mont,  Mr.  Lonsdale,' Mr.  Moore,  Mr.  Thomas Schools 
Corbett,  Mr.  Charles  Craig,  Mr.  Barrio,  and  E s T n  g )

Mr.  Clark,  presented  a  Bill  to  provide  for  the  Bill. 
heating  and cleansing of  National  Schoolhouses  Bill 91. 

in  Ireland:  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be  

read a second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and  to  

be printed.  


« 

g

Ordered, That  there  be laid  before this  House 

a  Return  showing, for  each  of  the three  King­
doms,  (1)  the amount  charged  for  Income  Tax, 
Land  Tax,  and  Inhabited  House  Duty  for  the 
financial  years 1907, 1908, and  1909;  and (2)  the 
amounts  and  percentage  of  the same  collected 
in  each  country  by  the  31st  day  of  January
and  the  28 th  day of  February,  respectively,  in 
each  of  the  said  years  (in  continuation  of 
Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  103  of  Session  1908). 
—(Sir  George  M'Crae.) 

Mr.  William Thome,  supported  by Mr. Stead- Nationalisa­

man,  Mr.  Bowerman, Mr.  Hudson,  Mr.  James tj01^ 
Parker,  Mr.  Curran,  Mr.  Seddon, Mr.  Summer-  CanX Bm"d 
bell, Mr. Jenkins, Mr. Jowett, Mr.  Tyson  Wilson, 
and  Mr.  Richards,  presented  a  Bill  to provide 
for  the nationalisation  of  Railways  and  Canals  : 
And  the  same  was  ordered to  be read  a second 
time  upon  Friday  the  16th day  of  April  next; 
and  to be  printed. 

92. 

Mr.  Birrell,  supported  by  Mr.  Attorney  Irish  Land 

Local 
Contributions 
(Ireland.) 

Local 
Contributions 
(Ireland.) 

Ordered, That there  be laid before  this House 
a  Return  of  all  moneys  contributed  out of  the 
Rates  by  the  County  Council  and  other  local 
bodies  in  each  county  in  Ireland,  during  the 
financial  year  1907-8, 
for  the  purposes  of 
Schemes  under  the  Agriculture  and  Technical 
Instruction  (Ireland)  Act,  1899  (in  continuation 
of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  174  of  Session 
1907).—(Mr.  Ginnell.) 

Ordered, That there be laid  before  this  House 
a  Return  of  all moneys  contributed  out  of  the 
Rates  by  the  County  Council  and  other  local 
bodies  in  each  county  in  Ireland,  during  the 
financial  year  1908-9,  for  the  purposes  of 
Schemes  under  the  Agriculture  and  Technical 
Instruction  (Ireland)  Act,  1899  (in  continuation 
of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  174  of  Session 
1907).—(Mr.  Ginnell.) 

Vehicular 
Traffic 
(Regulation  of 
Speed) Bill. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time, upon 
Monday  next, the  Vehicular  Traffic (Regulation 
of  Speed)  Bill  was  read,  and  discharged. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  30th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

Royal  Assent. 

A  Message  was  delivered  by  Admiral  Sir 
Henry Frederick  Stephenson,  Gentleman  Usher 
of the Black  R o d: 
Mr.  Speaker, 

The  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commission,  for  declaring  His  Royal 

for  Ireland  and  Mr.  T.  W.  Russell,  ^^ 

General 
presented  a Bill  to  amend  the  Law  relating  to  Bill  93. 
the  occupation  and ownership  of  Land  in  Ire­
land, and  for  other  purposes  relating  thereto: 
And  the  same was ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time upon  Monday  next;  and to be  printed. 

The  House,  according  to  Order, resolved itself  Supply, 

into  the  Committee  of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.)  

Civil  Services  Supplementary  Estimates,  

1908-9. 

Class  V.  

1.  Motion made, and Question  proposed,  That 
a  supplementary  sum  not exceeding  £47,000  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty, to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course  of  payment  during 
the year  ending  on  the 31st day  of  March  1909 
for  sundry  Colonial  Services,  including  certain 
Grants in  A i d: 

Whereupon  Motion  made,  and  Question  pro­
posed,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £46,900  be 
granted  for  the  said  Service—(Mr.  Ashley)  :•— 
Motion, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Original  Question put, and agreed  to. 

Class  II. 

2.  Motion made, and  Question  proposed, That 
a supplementary  sum  not  exceeding  £8,000  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course  of  payment  during 
the year  ending  on the  31st day  of  March  1909 
for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses of  the  Board  of 





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15th  March. 

59 

Agriculture  and  Fisheries,  and  of  the  Royal 
Botanic Gardens, Kew, including  certain  Grants 
in Aid  : 

The  Order of  the day being read, for receiving  Supply 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of H l th  March] 
the  11th day  of  this instant  March ; 

eport' 

Whereupon  Motion  made,  and  Question  pro­
posed,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £7,900  be 
granted  for  the  said  Service—-(Mr.  Morrell)  :— 
Debate  arising; 

The  Prime  Minister  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

Question  put, That  the  Question  be now  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the [Mr. Joseph Pease, 

]•150. 

Yeas, 

\ Master  of  Elibank  :  


Tellers for  thef Mr.  Peel,  


Noes, 

I Mr. Hicks  Beach : 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways and 


Committee  of  Ways  and  Means ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,  


resolve itself  into the  said  Committee.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 
Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan- p^" ;Tlg   &c 
ning,  &c.  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

}  32. 

upon  Monday  next. 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £7,900 
be granted  for  the said  Service,  put accordingly, 
and negatived. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 
B m 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  
Revenue  Bill; 

Whereupon  the  Prime Minister  claimed, That 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

the  Original  Question  be  now  put. 

upon  Monday  next. 

Original 
Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Original  Question  put accordingly, and agreed 

.to. 

Resolutions  to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had come  to  several  Resolutions. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move, That the  Committee  may have leave  to sit 
again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

Supply 
[10th  March] 
Report. 

The  Order of  the day being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the  10th day  of  this instant  March  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

Secretary of 
the Board  of 
Agriculture 
and Fisheries 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Buildings and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Indian 
Councils  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Indian  Councils  Bill 
[.Lords]; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Law  Agents 

Second  Reading  of  the Law  Agents  (Scotland)  ^ o t l a n d  ) 
Act  Amendment  Bill;  

Amendment 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 15111' 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Territorial 

Second  Reading  of  the Territorial  Army  Ballot

Ballot 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Municipal 
Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Elections  Elections  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  he read  a second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  24th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trade 

Second  Reading  of  the  Trade  Disputes  Bill; 

Deputes  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  24th  day of  this  instant 
March. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Licensing  Bill. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Licensing  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  24th  day of  this  instant 
March. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial  lndnstriai 
Tools  Bill;  

ToolsBll]­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ecclesiastical 

Second  Reading  of  the  Ecclesiastical  Assess­
ments  (Scotland)  Bill; 

(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Open  Spaces 

Second  Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland)  (Scotland) 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Asylums 
Second  Reading  of  the  Asylums  Officers' °®c®r asMu. 
Superannuation  Bill; 

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tioneBinnua~ 

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60 

llth—12th—mil 

March. 

1909. 

[No.  19. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Contamination
Of Ch.ldren

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
s e c o n  d  Reading  of  the  Contamination  of  Child­
ren Bill; 

;t 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Outdoor  Relief 
Friendly 
Societies 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Beading of  the  Outdoor  Relief  Friendly 
Societies  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Pedlars Acts 
Amendment 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend­
ment  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

Licensing 
Justices Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Licensing  Justices  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit till  twelve  minutes after  Eleven  of  the 
clock,  adjourned till  to-morrow. 

Distribution  by Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

Name  of  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public 

read;  and ordered  to  lie  upon the Table. 

' 

1 

£^itions. 
Vide First 
Report. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,—Return  to  an  Order, Agrarian 
dated  the  10th  day  of  this  instant  March, for. a o«™eeds. 
Return  relative  to Agrarian  Outrages  (Ireland). 
Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon  the 

Nq_ 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions of several  Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Order  in  Council  under the  Copyright  Acts, 
1844  to  1886, dated  2nd  March  1909, for  giving 
effect in this country to the accession of  Germany, 
on behalf  of  the  German  Protectorates,  to  the 
Copyright  Union. 

Copyright 
Acts, 1844 to 
1886. 

Copy  of  Order  in  Council  under  the  Naval 
and  Marine  Pay  and Pensions  Act,  1865,  dated 
2nd  March  1909, approving  a Memorial  of  the 
Lords  Commissioners  of  the Admiralty  praying 
sanction  to  certain  proposals for improvement in 
the  Pay of  Commanders,  Royal  Navy. 

Naval and 
Marine 
Pay and 
Pensions Act, 
1865. 

Copies  of  two  Orders  in  Council  under  the 
Spring  Assizes  Act,  1879,  and Winter  Assizes 
Act,  1876,  dated  2nd  March  1909,  constituting 
Spring  Assize  Counties  Nos.  2  and  3  for  the 
purpose  of the  ensuing  Spring  Assizes. 

Spring 
Assizes Act, 
1879, and 
Winter 
Assizes Act, 
1876. 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Welsh 

Command,—Copy  of Report  to  the  Treasury  of 
the  Committee  on  the  University  of  Wales  and 
the  Welsh  University  Colleges,  with  Minutes  of 
Evidence  and  Appendices. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Sale of  Intoxicating  Liquors  on  Sun-

A . 

day  Bill. 

Table. 

[No.  21.] 

Tuesday, 1 Qth  March 1909. 

The  House  met at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Hastings 
Harbour  Bill. 

THE  House  proceeded  to  take  into  con­

sideration  the  Hastings  Harbour  Bill,  as 

amended  in  the  Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the  third  time. 

Uorth 
Metropolitan 
lapCpiy°BmWer Committee,  be  taken 

Ordered,  That  the  North  Metropolitan  Elec-
trie  Power  Supply  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

into  consideration  to­

morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the  London  County  Council 
(Tramways  and  Improvements)  Bill  be  read  a 
second  time  to-morrow. 

London 
County 
"Council 
(Tramways 
and Improve­
ments)  Bill. 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
London and 
Northwestern  Second  Reading  of  the  London  and  North 
Railway  Bill.  W  e g t em   R a i l w ay   Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

West 
Gloucester-
shire  Water  Water  Bill; 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  

Second  Reading  of  the  West  Gloucestershire  


Mr.  Churchill  presented,  in  pursuance  of  Railways 

Standing  Order  1586,—Copy  of  Report  by  the  Abandonment. 
Board  of  Trade  respecting  the  Southport  and 
Lytham  Tramroad  (Abandonment)  Bill  and the 
objects  thereof. 

^1* 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  be  referred  to 

the  Committee  on the Bill;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant  Medical 

to the directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,  Coano11­
—Accounts  for  1908  of  the  General  Medical 
Council  and Branch Councils, and of  the  Dental 
Registration  Fund. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-  County  Court 

sented to His Majesty, that He will be graciously  Procedure, 
pleased  to  give  directions  thai  there  be  laid 
before  this  House  a  Copy  of  Report  of  the 
Committee  appointed  by the  Lord  Chancellor  to 
inquire  into  certain  matters  of  County  Court 
Procedure.—(Mr.  Bethell.) 

Sir  William Brampton  Gurdon reported  from  Selection 
the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had  g S S ®  ^ 
added  to  Standing  Committee  A  the  following  standing6 
Fifteen  Members  (in  respect  of  the  Trustees'  Committee  A. 
Accounts  Bill)  :—Mr.  Shackleton,  Mr. 
Mr.  Stephen  Collins,  Mr.  Stew art-Smith,  Sir 
Edward  Carson,  Mr.  Isaacs,  Mr.  Simon,  Mr. 
Hills,  Mr.  Cave,  Sir  William Bull,  Mr.  Arnold 
Herbert,  Mr.  John Henderson, Mr.  John O' Con­
nor, Mr.  George  Gooch, and  Major Renton. 

Silcoch,7^^ 
" 

Accounts  Bill. 

1st—2nd  March. 

61 
Kavanagh, Mr.  Macpherson,  Sir  Philip Magnus, 
Captain  Morrison-Bell,  Mr.  Nicholls, Sir  Henry
Norman, Mr.  Robert  Pearce,  Major  Renton,  Sir 
Benjamin Stone, Mr.  Tomkinson, and Mr. Duridas 
White. 

Ordered, That the  Committee  have  power  to 

send for persons, papers,  and  records. 

Ordered,  That  Five  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

No.  10.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

Sir  William Brampton Gurdon further reported 
Standing 
Committee A.  from  the  Committee;  That  they  had  added  to 
Standing  Committee  A  the following  Fourteen 
Members  (in  respect  of  the  Sale of  Intoxicating 
Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill)  :—Mr.  Brigg,  Mr. 

Sale of 
Intoxicating 
tiiquors on 	
Sunday Bill,  	 Talbot, Sir  Robert Perks,  Sir  Thomas  Whittaker, 

Board ol 
Trade 
|  Salary.] 

Mr.  Arthur  Henderson,  Sir  George  White, Mr. 
Ferens,  Mr.  Staveley-Hill,  Mr.  Barnard,  Mr. 
Maclean,  Mr.  Cochrane, Viscount  Castlereagh,
Colonel  Hall  Walker,  and  Sir  Herbert Roberts.. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

A  Motion  being  made,  That  this  House  will, 
to-inorrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to 
consider  of  authorising  an increase  in the salary 
of  the  President  of  the  Board  of  Trade,  to be 
paid  out  of  moneys  provided  by  Parliament— 
(Mr.  Joseph  Pease)  ; 

Secretary  Sir Edward Grey,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,  acquainted  the  House  that  His 
Majesty,  having  been  informed  of  the  subject-
matter  of  this  Motion,  recommends  it  to  the 
consideration  of  the  House. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the  said  Committee. 

Continuation 
(Np°°2) Bill.  M r  -

•B i ll

  9  4 

Mr.  Chiozza  Money, supported  by  Mr.  Alden. 
ElUs  Davies,  Mr.  Robert  Harcourt,  Dr'. 
'  Hazel,  Mr.  Cecil Harmsworth,  Mr. Arthur  Hen­
derson,  Mr.  Ramsay  Macdonald,  Mr.  Henry
Walker, and  Mr. John Ward, presented  a Bill  to 
provide  for  the  establishment  of  compulsory 
Continuation  Schools  in  England  and  Wales, 
and to amend  the Education Acts,  1870 to  1902, 
in  respect  of  the  age  of  compulsory  school 
attendance  :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be 
read a second  time upon  Friday  the 23rd  day  of 
April  next;  and to be  printed. 

Mr.  Hodge,  supported  by  Mr.  Brace,  Mr. 
Vivisection 
(Abolition")  Macpherson, Mr.  Lupton,  Mr.  Charles  Duncan, 
Bill. 
Mr.  Collins,  Mr.  Parker,  Mr. John  Wilson,  Mr. 
Bill 95.  Thome,  Mr.  John  Johnson, Mr.  Gill,  and  Mr. 
Hudson,  presented  a Bill  to  provide for  the  total 
abolition  of  Vivisection:  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Friday 
the 28th day of  May  next;  and to  be  printed. 

•Grocers' 
Licences 
(Abolition) 

Mr.  Robinson,  supported  by Sir  Maurice  Levy 
and  Mr.  Maclean, presented  a Bill  to amend  the 
Law  with  respect  to  the  grant  or  renewal  of 
Bill 96	  Licences for the  sale of  beer, wine,  and spirits to 
be  consumed  off  the  premises :  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Tuesday  -the  30th  day  of  this  instant  March  ; 
and to  be printed. 

Mr.  Robinson,  supported  by  Sir  Francis 
Education 
^agland  and  Edwards and Mr.  Hay  Morgan, presented  a Bill 
Wales) BUI. 
to  amend  the  Education  Act,  1902 :  And  the 
BiU 97. 
same was ordered  to be  read a second  time  upon 
Tuesday  the  30th  day  of  this  instant  March; 
and to be  printed. 

Payment  of 
Jurors BiU. 

Mr.  Uoyd  Morgan,  supported  by  Mr.  Abel 
Thomas,  Mr.  Hay  Morgan,  Mr.  Mackarness. 
Bill 98.  Mr.  Herbert, Mr.  Partington,  and  Mr. Nicholls,
presented  a Bill  to  provide for  the  payment  of 
expenses  of  Jurors attending  assizes and  quarter 
sessions in  England  and  Wales :  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Friday  the  30th  day  of  April  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

The Select Committee on the Daylight  Saving 
Daylight 
Saving  Bill.  Bill was nominated of  Mr. Bennett, Mr.  Haworth,
Mr.  Hayden,  Colonel  Sir  Ivor  Herbert,  Mr. 

VOL.  I 6 4. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Supply  (Navy 

Committee  of  Supply ; 

Estimates.) 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That Mr.  Speaker  do  now  leave 
the  Chair—(Mr.  M'Kenna)  ; 

And  it being  a quarter of  an hour  after  Eight 
of  the  clock,  and  there being  Private  Business 
set down by  direction  of  the  Chairman  of  Ways 
and  Means under  Standing  Order  No.  8, further 
proceeding  was postponed without  Question  put. 

The  Great  Central  Railway (Various Powers)  Great Central 

Bill  was, according: to  Order, read a second time, 5S11,??/ 
'  (Various 
' 

o 

-

, 
' 
aud committed. 

. 

Powers)  Bill. 

A  Motion  was  made, and the  Question  being  Moral 

proposed,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House, ^Pstruc*lon 111 
provision  should  be  made  in  the  Code  for moral  schools, 
instruction  to  be  efficiently  given 
in  every 
elementary  school,  and  that  the regulations  for 
the training  of  teachers  should be  so  amended  as 
to  secure  that  they  are  adequately  trained  to 
give  such instruction—(Mr.  George  Gooch); 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  in  1.  1,  by  leaving  out from  the 
word  "  House "  to  the  end of  the  Question,  and 
adding the words "  moral instruction is best given 
in  conjunction  with  religious  instruction,  and 
therefore  the  regulations  for  the  training  of 
teachers should be such as to  secure  the giving of 
both moral and religious instruction in elementary 
schools"—(Mr,  M'Arthur), —instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed  to  be left out  stand  part  of  the 
Question  :—And  a Debate  arising  thereupon ; 

And  it being  Eleven  of  the  clock,  the  Debate 

stood  adjourned. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Law  of 
^  ^ 
"""" 

Second  Reading of  the Law of  Murder (Amend-
ment)  Bill;

(Amendment) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill be  read  a; second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Deaths 
Second  Reading  of the  Deaths  Registration  and fn rf'lR,^°c
n
and Burials 
Burials  Bill; 
Bill. 

e

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Oaths  Bill  was, according  to  Order,  read  Oaths Bill, 

a  second  time,  and  committed  to  a  Standing 
Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 
Second Reading of  the Local  Authorities  (Taxa-  Authorities 
tion  and Purchase  of  Land)  Bill; 

^ c W o f " '  1 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time L a n d) BiU. 

upon Friday the 26th day of  this instant  March. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Fruit 

Second  Reading  of  the  Fruit  Growers 
i  
j \  T>-ii	 
land)  Bill; 

(  S c o t - p o w e rs 

(Scotland) 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon Tuesday the 30th day of  this instant March. 
I  3 

	
 
62 

llth—12th—mil 

March. 

1909. 

[No. 19. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the
Licensing 
<Tu«tices Bill.  Second Reading  of  the Licensing  Justices  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Supply (Navy 
The  postponed  proceeding  on  the  Question, 
Estimates.)  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  now  leave  the  Chair, 

was resumed. 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed  :— 

And  a Debate  arising thereupon ; 

And  it  being  after  Eleven  of  the  clock,  and 
objection  being  taken  to further  proceeding,  the 
Debate  stood  adjourned. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

Supply 
The  Order of  the day being read, for  receiving
[15th March]  the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
Keport. 

o f  t h is   i n st a nt  March; 
Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

t he  1 5 th   ^  

morrow. 

The  Order of the day being read,  for  receiving
Supply 
[10th  March]  the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of
Report. 
the  10th day  of  this instant  March; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Secretary of 
the Board of  Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board
Agriculture 
and Fisheries  of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament
Bill j 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Buildings and 
Engineering  Second  Reading of  the  Buildings  and  Engineer-
Works Bill. 

ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the
Second  Reading  of  the London  Electric  Supply
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving
Supply 
[11th  March]  the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of
Report. 
the  11th day of this instant  March  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and Means ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,

resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit  till  two  minutes  after  Eleven  of  the 
clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

[No.  22.] 

Wednesday, 17th March  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter of  an hour  

before  Three  of the  clock.  


P R A T E R S. 

THE  House  proceeded  to  take into considera- Leyland  and 

tion  the  Leyland  and Farington  Gas  Bill, Farington Gas 

as amended  in the  Committee. 

1  ' 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third  time. 

The  House  proceeded  to take  into  considera- Wandsworth 

tion  the  Wandsworth  Borough  Council  (Super­
annuation)  Bill,  as amended in the  Committee. 

(Super-

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read the  third time,  ™nuation> 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking  North 

into consideration  the North  Metropolitan  Elec- Metropolitan 
trie  Power  Supply  Bill,  as  amended  in  the fowe"suppiy
)mmittee;; 
Committee  
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Bill.

sideration  upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London  . 

Second  Reading  of  the  London  County  Council bounty
(Tramways  and  Improvements)  Bill; 

(Tramways 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time and ^P™™* 

ments)  Bill,

, 
upon  i  nday  next. 

-n.  . j 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented  and  Public 

read ;  and ordered  to lie  upon the  Table. 

Petitions.
Vide  First 
Report. 

The  Order  made  upon  the  16th  day  of  this  Railways 
instant  March,  That  the  Paper  relative  to  Abandonment. 
Railways  Abandonment  be  printed,  was  read, 
and  discharged. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His  Poor Laws 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Appendix  to  and Relief  of 
the  Report  of  the  Royal  Commission  on  the^®^®®8 
Poor  Laws  and  Relief  of  Distress.  Vol.  X I V  .  Commission.)
(Report  to  the  Royal  Commission  by  John 
C.  M'Vail, M.D., on Poor Law  Medical  Relief  in 
certain  Unions  in  England and  Wales). 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That there  be  laid  before this House  prices 0f 
a Return  giving  the quantities  of  Coal exported  Exported 
from each of  the ports  of  the  United  Kingdom  Coal-
by  quarterly  periods  in  1908,  at  prices  not 
exceeding  5s.,  above  5s.  but  not exceeding  6s.,
above  6s.  but  not  exceeding  7s.,  and  so on  (in 
continuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  97  of 
Session  1908).—(Mr.  David Alfred  Thomas.) 

Ordered, That there be laid  before  this  House  coal  Exports, 

a Return  giving  for the  year 1908  the  export of &c. 
Coal from  each  port  in  the United  Kingdom  to 
each  country  abroad,  together  with  summary
statements showing  the  export  of  Coal  in  every
period  of  three  months from  the  principal  dis­
tricts  of  the  United  Kingdom  to  the  principal 
groups  of  foreign  countries;  and  also  showing
the  quantity  of  Coal  shipped  at each port  in  the 
United  Kingdom  for  ships'  use  on  foreign 
voyages  during  like  periods  (in  continuation  of 
Parliamentary  paper, No.  100 of  Session  1908). 
— (Mr.  David  Alfred  Thomas.) 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon  Salmon,
Tuesday  next,  the  Salmon,  Trout,  and  River  Trout, and 
Tweed  Fisheries  Bill  was read, and discharged. 

f X ^ B  m 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Wednesday  the  21st day of  April  next. 

Thames 
Tunnel  (North 
and  South 
Woolwich)  ments. 

Bill. 

No.  10.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

1st—2nd  March. 

63 

Mr.  Mooney  reported  the  Thames  Tunnel 

And  the  Question being accordingly put, That 

(North  and South  Woolwich) Bill,  with  Amend- Mr.  Speaker do now leave the  Chair;  


Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time, upon 
Local 
Authorities 
Friday  the  26th day of  this instant  March,  the 
(Taxation  and 
Purchase of  Local  Authorities  (Taxation  and  Purchase  of 
Land) Bill  was read, and  discharged. 
Land)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  withdrawn. 

The House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for thef Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Master of  Elibank  :

Tellers for thej Mr. Patrick  O'Brien,  

\ Mr.  George Roberts : 
So it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Noes, 

J 322. 

|  83. 

The  House accordingly resolved itself into the  Supply. 

Sir  William Brampton  Gurdon reported from 

the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had  Committee of  Supply.  


Selection 

(Standing 
Committees.)  •discharged the following  Member from Standing 
Standing 
Committee  A.  Committee  A  (in  respect  of  the  Sale of Intoxi-
Sale  of 
cating Liquors on Sunday Bill):—Mr.  Attorney 
Intoxicating 
General;  and  had  appointed  in  substitution  (in  Motion made, and  Question,  That  the  Chair-

Liquors  on 
respect of  the said Bill) :  Mr.  Solicitor General.  man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit  

Sunday  Bill. 
again—(Mr. Joseph Pease),—put,  and agreed  to.  

Committee  A  from  the  Committee ;  That  they  had  added  to  
 Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Standing  Committee  A  the following  Member  Deputy  Chairman  acquainted  the  House  that 
(in respect of  the  Sale of  Intoxicating  Liquors  the  Committee had made Progress  in  the matter 
on  Sunday  Bill) :—Mr.  Thomas  Richards. 
to them referred;  and  that  he  was  directed  to 
Ordered, That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the  move, That the Committee' may have leave to sit 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Navy  Estimates,  1909-10. 

Sir William  Brampton  Gurdon further reported 


Sale  of 
Intoxicating 
Liquors on 
Sunday  Bill. 

Standing 

Table. 

again. 

Mr.  Weir,  supported  by  Mr.  Morton,  Mr.  again resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

Trawlers' 
•Certificates  Ainsworth,  Mr. Leicester Harmsworth,  Mr.  Cat It-
Suspeusion 
Bill. 

A  Motion was  made, and  the  Question  being  Capital 

cart  Wason, Captain  Waring,  Mr. Sutherland, 
Mr.  Younger, and  Major  Anstruther  - Gray,
proposed, That, in the opinion of this  House, the 
presented  a Bill to enable courts  to  suspend the  feeling  of  insecurity,  due  to the policy  of  His 
illegal  Majesty's Government,  to the unfair competition 
Certificates  of  Trawlers  convicted  of 
trawling  :  And  the same was ordered  to be read  of  foreign  producers  in British  markets, and to . 
a  second  time  upon  Friday  next;  and  to  be  the high tariffs  of  foreign  countries, has  caused 
printed. 
capital  to  be  employed  abroad  which  might 
have been used  at  home  to  the great advantage 
The  Lord  Advocate,  supported  by Mr.  Solici- of  the wage-earning  population  of the country— 

\

tor  General  for  Scotland  and  Mr.  Churchill,  (Mr. Baldwin)',
presented  a  Bill  to  prohibit  the  landing  and 
An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made to 
selling  in the United Kingdom of  Fish  caught in  the  Question,  in  1. I,  by  leaving  out  from  the 
prohibited  areas  of  the  sea adjoining  Scotland : 
word  "  That"  to  the  end  of  the  Question, and 
And  the same was ordered  to  be  read  a  second  adding  the  words  "this  House  regards  both 
time to-morrow;  and to be  printed. 
the  steady  increase  in  the  amount  of  British 
capital  invested  in British  colonies  and  foreign 
countries,  and  the  character and distribution  of 
such  investments,  with  satisfaction, as  being  a 
consequence and  an evidence of the fundamental 
stability  and  prosperity  of  the  domestic  indus-
tries and the commerce  of  the  United  Kingdom, 
a  constantly increasing  support  and  guarantee 
of  their  growth  in  the  future,  as  well  as  an 
important  instrument  for  maintaining  cheap 
supplies  of food  for the people and raw materials 
for  the  manufacturers  of  this  country,  and 
would  view  with  disfavour  any  attempt  arti­
ficially to regulate the distribution  and direction 
The Order of  the day being read, for resuming  of  British  enterprise  and  industry "  —  (Mr. 

Captain  Kincaid-Smith,  supported  by  Mr. 
Beaumont, Mr.  Cowan,  Viscount  Castlereagh,
Mr.  Hills,  Viscount  Helmsley, Mr.  Lynch,  Mr. 
Rowland Hunt,  Mr.  Frederick  Edwin  Smith, 
Sir  Edward Tennant,  Sir Henry  Craik, and  Mr. 
Ridsdale, presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Terri-
torial  and  Reserve  Forces  Act,  1907,  and  to 
establish  National  Military  Training 
in  the 
Territorial  Force  :  And  the  same  was  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time upon  Friday  the 26th 
day  of  this instant March ;  and to  be printed. 

the adjourned  Debate  on the  Question  proposed  Russell Rea),—instead thereof. 
upon  the  16th  day  of  this instant  March,  That 
Mr.  Speaker  do  now  leave  the  Chair—(Mr. 
M'Kenna) ; 

And  the Question  being  put, That the words 

proposed  to be left out  stand  part  of  the  Ques­
tion  ; 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed  :— 
The  House resumed the said adjourned  Debate.  

Mr.  M'Kenna rose in his  place and claimed  to  


move,  That the  Question  be now  put; 

And  the  Question being  put, That  the  Ques-

tion  be  now  put; 

The  House divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the("Mr. Joseph Pease, 

1  „.. 

Yeas, 

t.Master  of  Elibank : 

J 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien, 
(Mr.  George  Roberts : 
So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Noes, 

-152. 

VOL.  164. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 

The  Noes to the  Left. 


leas, 

Tellers for thefSir^*ander 

Acland-
|Viscount  Valentia-.
Tellers for the J" Mr. Joseph Pease,
\ Master of Elibank  :

Noes, 

\

j- 230. 

So  it passed in the  Negative. 
And  the Question  being  proposed, That  the 
words  " this  House  regards  both  the  steady 
increase in the amount of  British capital invested 
in  British  colonies  and  foreign  countries,  and 
the  character  and  distribution  of  such  invest-
i  4 

Bill  99. 

Trawling  in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
{Prevention) 
Bill. 

Bill  300. 

National 
Military 
Training  Bill. 

Bill  101. 

Supply 
(Navy 
Estimates.) 

•Question  put 
{pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 



11th—ISth  March. 

1909. 

[No. 22. 

64 	
ments, with  satisfaction,  as  being  a  consequence 
and  an evidence  of the fundamental stability and 
prosperity  of  the  domestic  industries  and  the 
commerce of  the  United  Kingdom,  a  constantly 
increasing  support and guarantee of  their growth 
in the future,  as well  as an important  instrument 
for  maintaining  cheap  supplies  of  food  for  the 
people  and raw  materials for  the  manufacturers 
of  this  country, and  would  view  with  disfavour 
any  attempt  artificially to  regulate  the  distribu­
tion  and  direction  of  British  enterprise  and 
industry "  be  added  after  the word  "That,"  in 
the  Main  Question  :—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

And  the  Main  Question,  so  amended, being 

proposed :—And  a Debate  arising thereupon ; 

The Order of  the  day being read, for receiving  Supply 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of ^e5t^tMarohl 
the  15th day  of  this  instant  March  ; 

ep°r  ' 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order of the day being read, for  receiving  Supply 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of ^eot^tMarchl 
the  10th day  of this instant  March ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 
f ^ ^  f 

Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill; 

Agriculture 
and  Fisheries-

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  Bul 

And  it  being  after Eleven  of  the  clock,  Mr, 

to-morrow. 

Speaker  proceeded to  interrupt the  Business : 

Whereupon  Mr,  Russell Rea  rose in  his place 
Closure 
claimed,  but  and claimed  to  move, That  the Question  be  now 
Mr.  Speaker  put.;  but  Mr.  Speaker  withheld  his  assent, and 
withholds  bis 
declined  then  to  put  that  Question;  and  the 
assent. 	
Debate  stood  adjourned. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London 
Second  Reading  of the  London  Electric  Supply  f  ecVic„.„ 
supply  Bill-
B i l l  ;	 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Purchase  of 
Laud 
Wa"fs) Bmnd  (England  and  Wales)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Purchase  of  Land 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  [ n t L M a r c h I
the  11th day of this instant  March  ; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Nurses 
(Registration)  Second  Reading  of  the  Nurses  (Registration) 
Bill. 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways  and 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Justices  of  the  The  Order  .of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Justices  of  the  Peace 
Peace Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second time 
upon  Thursday  the  25th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

Payment  of 
Rates  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the  Payment  of  Rates  Bill; 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  25th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

Death 
Certificates 
(Charges)  Bill. (Charges)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Death  Certificates 

Second  Reading  of 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to  

sit  till  thirteen  minutes  after  Eleven  of  

the clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow.  


S T A N D I NG  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution by Mr. Speaker, pursuant  to  Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

Name  of  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee. 

Oaths  Bill  	

B . 

Ordered, That  the  BUI  be  read  a second  time 

upon Tuesday  next. 

Hours  of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Sur­
facemen)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

[No.  23.] 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Thursday, 18th March 1909. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Maintenance 
Provision  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Maintenance  Provision 

The  House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 

before  Three  of the  clock.  


Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Licensing 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Justices  Bill.   S e c o n d  Reading  of  the  Licensing  Justices  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

P R A T E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private Bill® 

from one of  the Examiners  of Petitions for  (Standing 
Private  Bills, That  in the  case  of  the following  p ^ ^ l  ? 
Bills, referred  on the First Reading thereof, the  inquired  into 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into, complied 
and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have  been  Wlt 
complied  with,  viz.:— 

Board  of 
Trade 
[Salary.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on Board of  Trade  [Salary] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

Great  Western  Railway  (General  Powers)  


Bill. 


Baker- Street  and  Waterloo  Railway  Bill.  


Ordered, That the  Bills be  read  a second time. 

No.  32.1  9  EDW.  YII. 

31s£ March. 	

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
Private  Bills 
(Standing 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Orders  not 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case of  the following 
previously 	
inquired  into  	 Bill, referred on the  First  Reading  thereof, the 
not  complied 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into, 
with.) 	
and which are applicable thereto, have  not  been 
complied  with, viz. :— 

65 
contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and 
amended  the  same  so  as  to  m a ke  it  consistent 
with  the provisions of the Bill  as  passed  by  the 
Committee, and  found  the  same,  as amended, to 
be  true;  and  had  gone  through  the  Bill  and 
made  Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Sligo  and Arigna  Railway  Bill. 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  referred  to the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

Glamorgan 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
"Water  Board  Second  Reading  of  the  Glamorgan  Water 
BiOl. 

Board  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Oldham 
Corporation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Oldham  Corporation 
Bill; 

° 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Aidershot  Gas 
and  Water 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Aidershot  Gas  and 
Water  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Pontypridd 
Water  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the Pontypridd  Water  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

' 

West 
Gloucester-	
shire  Water 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  West  Gloucestershire 
Water  Bill 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read a second  time 

to-morrow.. 

following  Member  from  the 

Sir  William  Brampton Gurdon reported  from Selection 
the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had (Standing 
discharged	  the 
Standing  Committee  on  Scottish  Bills  :—Mr. Scottish 
Montagu-, and  had appointed  in  substitution  (in Standing 
Committee. 
respect  of  the  Temperance  (Scotland)  Bill)  : Temperance 

Mr. Cowan. 
(Scotland) 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Committees.) 

Table. 


Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message  from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by the  Lords, 
one of their  Clerks,  as folioweth : 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled An  Bishoprics  Bill 

Act to facilitate the foundation of new Bishoprics [ 
and the alteration  of  dioceses, and  to  amend the 
Bishops' Resignation  Act,  1869,  and  for  other 
matters  incidental  thereto ;  to  which the  Lords 
desire the concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Torrens'  

Act  to dissolve  the  Marriage  of  James  Robert  ?]™r™Bil]  

Torrens  with  Enid  Maud  Torrens, his  presentL  °r 
wife, and to enable him  to marry  again, and  for  

other purposes ;  to which  the  Lords  desire  the  

concurrence of this  House.  


Torrens' Divorce  Bill  [Lords']  was  read  the  Torrens'  


first  time. 

Divorce  Bill  


Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second  time. 

Amman 
Valley  Gas 
Bill. 	

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  First  	
Report. 
Bast  India 
(Army 
Administra­
tion.) 

The  Order  made  upon  the  18th  day  of 
February last, That the Amman Valley  Gas  Bill 
be referred  to  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills, was read, and discharged. 
Ordered,  That the Bill  be  withdrawn. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

Mr.  Buchanan  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Correspondence  regarding 
the  abolition  of  the  Department  of  Military 
Supply  in  East  India. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir Edward  Grey presented, by  His 
Turkey 
(No. l, 1909.)  Maje8ty's  Command,—Copy  of  Correspondence 
in 

respecting,  the  Constitutional  Movement 
Turkey,  1908. 

Ordered,  That the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Conway  Gas 
Bill. 

Table. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Conway  Gas  Bill; 
That  they  had  examined  the  allegations  con­
tained  in the  Preamble of  the  Bill, and amended 
the  same  30  as  to  make  it  consistent  with  the 
provisions  of  the  Bill  as  passed  by  the  Com­
mittee,  and  found  the  same, as  amended,  to be 
true ;  and  had gone through  the Bill  and  made 
Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Littlehampton  The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 
from  the  Committee  on the  Littlehampton  Gas 
Gas  Bill. 
Bill;  That  they  had  examined  the  allegations 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to-  Ecclesiastical 
morrow,  the  Ecclesiastical  Assessments  (Scot- ^ae^raenta 
land)  Bill  was read,  and discharged. 

3m.

n

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Mr.  Gill,  supported  by  Mr.  Shackleton,  Mr.  Road Traffic 

Seddon,  Mr. Parker,  Mr.  Kelley, Mr. Glover, and  Biu-
Mr.  Tyson Wilson,  presented  a  Bill  to  provide 
for  the  regulation  of  Road  Traffic :  And  the 
same was ordered  to  be read  a second  time  upon 
Thursday  next;  and to be printed. 

102. 

Sir  Charles  M'Laren,  supported  by  Sir John  Eats 

Brunner,  Mr.  Munro  Ferguson,  Mr.  Hay,  Sir  ^Destruction) 
Gilbert  Parker,  and  Mr.  Warner, presented  a 
Bill  to  provide  for  the  destruction  of  Rats : 
And  the  same was ordered to  be  read a second 
time upon Tuesday  next;  and to  be printed. 

Bill  103. 

Bill. 

Mr.  Snowden,  supported  by  Mr. Keir  Hardie, Women's 
Mr.  Clynes, Mr.  Jowett, Mr.  Summerbell,  Mr.  Enfranchise-
Hudson, and  Mr.  Parker,  presented  a  Bill  to 
enable Women  to  vote  at  Parliamentary  Elec­
tions :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to be read a 
second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

1

The  House, according to  Order, resolved itself  Supply 

into the  Committee  of  Supply. 

g r  d  allotted 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Navy  Estimates,  1909-10. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
128,000  Officers, Seamen, and Boys be employed 
for  the  Sea  and  Coast  Guard  Services for  the 
year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910, 
including  17,719 Royal  Marines : 

K 





66 

18th—19th  March. 

1909. 

[No. 23. 

And  it  being  Eleven  of  the clock,  the  Chair­
man  left  the  Chair  to  make his  Report  to  the 
House. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Feus  and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Feus  and  Building  ^ ^  g 
Leases  (Scotland)  Bill;  

(Scotland) 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  acquainted  the 
House that  the  Committee  had  made  Progress 
in  the  matter  to  them  referred;  and  that  he 
was  directed  to move, That  the  Committee  may 
have leave  to sit  again. 

Resolved, That  this  House will, upon  Monday 
next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

Places  of 
WCT£hanchise-
ment^Bm.186"  (Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

The  Order  o£  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 

  S e c o nd

Ordered, That the Bill be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited 

Trawling in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
(Prevention)  Areas  (Prevention)  Bill; 
Bill-

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time  BllL 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sale of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Sale  of  Margarine  B i l l;   Margarine 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cruelty  to  

Second  Heading  of  the  Cruelty  to  Animals  Animals  Bill. 

Bill; 


Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Monday  the  29th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Clerks of  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Clerks of  the  Peace  and Peace and 
County  Councils  Bill  ; 

Councils  BiU. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time  

instant 

upon  Monday  the  29th  day  of  this 
March. 


Board  of 
Trade 
[Salary.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Cheap Trains  Bill;

Bil1­

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap  Trains 

Committee  on  Board  of Trade  [Salary] ; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time  


upon  Thursday  next.  


Supply 
The Order of the day being  read, for  receiving 
[15th March]   ti i e  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the  loth  day  of  this instant  March ; 
B e p o r t' 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

Supply 
The  Order of the day being read, for  receiving 
[10th  March]  the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
t he  1 Q th  d ay   o f  t b i8   instant  March ; 
Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Mondav  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial  industrial 
Tools  Bill; 
10018  BilL 

*  

g 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a  second  time  


upon  Wednesday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Asylums 
Second  Reading  of the Asylums  Officers'  Super- Officers' 
annuation  Bill; 

' 

tioneKU?Ua" 

Ordered, That the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 
this  instant 

upon  Monday  the  29th  day  of 
March. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Secretary  of 
the Board  of  Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Board 
^Fisheries  of Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 
BiU-

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Contamination 

Second  Reading  of  the  Contamination  of  Child- of  Children 
ren  Bill; 

BllL 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


Supply 
The Order of the day being read, for  receiving 
ruth March]  the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  S u D p l  y  of 
the  11th day  of this instant  March; 
Report. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be received  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Outdoor  Relief 

Second Reading of  the  Outdoor  Relief  Friendly  f ^ P  ^ 
Societies  (Scotland)  Bill;  

(Scotland) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time  BiU­

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means ; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Nurses 
(Registration)  Second  Reading  of  the  Nurses  (Registration) 
(No. 2) Bill. 

( N 0 . 2 ) B i l l; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Public  Health 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Provisional  Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  (Pro-
Orders) Bill.  

v i s i o n a l  Orders)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Episcopal 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Endowments   g e c o n j  Reading  of  the  Episcopal  Endowments 
BllU 

Bill; 

And  then  the  House, having  continued  to  

sit  till  two  minutes  after  Eleven  of  the  

clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow.  


[No.  24.] 

Friday,  19th March  1909. 
The  House met at  Twelve  of the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

R.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  private  Bills 
from one  of the  Examiners  of  Petitions for  (Standing 
rivate Bills,  That  in  the  case of  the  following  ' ^ " d  y 
Bill,  referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, the inquired  into 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into,  complied 
and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have  been  wlth--) 
complied  with,  viz.:— 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Central  London  Railway  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time. 



No. 28.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

25th  March. 

67 

Harbour  Bill 

A  M o t i c ! n  b e i nS  m a d e>  That  the  Hastings 

Harbour Bill  be now read the third time ; 

Sir Alexander Acland-Hood, by  His  Majesty's 

Command,  acquainted 
the  House  that  His 
Majesty,  having  been  informed  of  the  purport 
of  the  Bill,  gives  His  Consent,  as  far  as  His 
Majesty's interest  is  concerned, that  the  House 
may  do therein  as they shall think fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and 

passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded to 
North 
ElecTrifpowertake  i l l t  o  consideration  the  North  Metropolitan 
Supply  Bill.  Electric  Power  Supply  Bill,  as amended  in the 

Committee. 

Ordered, That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the Cardiff 
Committee  on the Cardiff  Corporation  Bill  that  Corporation 
they have power to inquire whether the promoters 
have  made  adequate  provision  by  the  Bill  for 
the supply of  water  at  reasonable  rates  to  the 
agricultural community within the area of supply, 
and  to  any person  or  persons from  whom  any 
existing  or  natural  supply is,  or  maybe,  with­
drawn  mowing  to  the  works  or  undertakings 
authorised  by  the  Bill,  and  that  they  further 
have power to insert in  the  Bill  such  Clause  or 
Clauses, as they think necessary, to impose upon 
the  promoters  the  obligation  to  provide  such 
supply.—(Mr.  Courthope.)

Ordered,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the  Llanelly 
Committee  on  the  Llanelly  Water  Bill  thatWater  Bi)1­

Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read the third time. they have power to inquire whether the promoters 
have  made  adequate  provision  by  the  Bill  for 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  the  supply  of  water  at  reasonable  rates  to the 
  Second Reading of  the Glamorgan Water  Board  agricultural community within the area of supply, 
and  to any person  or  persons  from  whom  any 
existing  or  natural  supply  is,  or  may be,  with-
drawn  owing  to  the  works  or  undertakings 
authorised  by  the  Bill,  and  that  they  further 
have power to insert in the Bill  such  Clause  or 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Clauses, as they think necessary, to impose upon 
s e c 0nd  Reading  of  the  Oldham  Corporation  the  promoters  the  obligation  to  provide  such 
Bill; 

upon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight of the clock. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

supply.—(Mr.  Courthope.) 

Glamorgan
Water Board
Bl11'

Oldham

Corporation
BllL

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight of the clock. 

Aidershot  Gas
and Water
BlIU

Committee  on the Northallerton  Water Bill thatWater  BilJ­
they have power to inquire whether the promoters 
  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  have  made  adequate  provision  by  the  Bill  for 
Second Reading of  the Aidershot Gas and Water  the supply of  water  at  reasonable  rates  to  the 
Bill;  
agricultural community within the area of  supply, 
Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time and  to  any  person  or  persons  from  whom  any 

8 

Ordered, That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the Northallerton 

upon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of the  clock. 

Pontypridd 
Water  Bill. 

The  Pontypridd  Water Bill was, according  to 

Order, read a second time, and committed. 

Ordered, That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
Committee  that  they  have  power  to  inquire 
whether  the  promoters  have  made  adequate 
provision  by the Bill for the supply  of  water  at 
reasonable  rates  to  the  agricultural  community 
within the area of  supply, and to  any person  or 
persons  from  whom  any  existing  or  natural 
supply  is,  or  may  be,  withdrawn  owing  to  the 
works  or  undertakings  authorised  by  the  Bill, 
and  that  they  further  have  power  to  insert  in 
the  Bill  such  Clause  or  Clauses,  as they think 
necessary,  to  impose  upon  the  promoters  the 
obligation  to  provide  such  supply.  —  (Mr. 
Court hope.) 

West 
Gloucester­
shire  Water 
Bill 

London 
County 
Council 
(Tramways 
and  Improve­
ments)  Bill. 

The  West  Gloucestershire  Water  Bill  was, 
according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed. 

Ordered, That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
Committee  that  they  have  power  to  inquire 
whether  the  promoters  have  made  adequate 
provision  by the Bill  for the  supply of water  at 
reasonable  rates  to  the  agricultural  community 
within the area of  supply, and  to  any person  or 
persons  from  whom  any  existing  or  natural 
supply  is,  or  may be,  withdrawn  owing  to  the 
works  or  undertakings  authorised  by  the  Bill, 
and  that  they further  have  power  to  insert  in 
the  Bill  such  Clause  or  Clauses,  as they think 
necessary,  to  impose  upon  the  promoters  the 
obligation  to  provide  such  supply.  —  (Mr. 
Courthope.) 

The  London  County  Council  (Tramways and 
Improvements)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order, 
read a second time, and committed. 

existing  or natural  supply  is,  or  may be,  with­
drawn  owing  to  the  works  or  undertakings 
authorised  by  the  Bill,  and  that  they  further  

have power to insert in  the Bill  such  Clause  or  

Clauses, as they think necessary, to impose upon 

the  promoters  the  obligation  to  provide  such  

supply.—(Mr. Courthope.) 


Ordered, That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the  Watford 

1

 ' 


  ouno 

Committee  on  the  Watford  Urban  District  ^ ^ . ^ r i c  t 
Council  Bill  that  they  have  power  to  inquire
whether  the  promoters  have  made  adequate  

provision  by the  Bill for the supply  of  water  at  

reasonable  rates  to  the  agricultural  community  

within the area of supply, and  to  any person  or  

persons  from  whom  any  existing  or  natural  

supply  is,  or  may  be,  withdrawn  owing  to  the  

works  or  undertakings  authorised  by  the  Bill,  

and  that  they further  have  power  to  insert  in  

the  Bill  such  Clause  or  Clauses,  as  they think  

necessary,  to  impose  upon  the  promoters  the  

obligation  to  provide  such  supply.  —  (Mr.  

Courthope.) 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his Croydon 

Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown, to make Borough  Writ, 
out a new  Writ  for  the  electing of  a  Member 
to  serve  in  this  present  Parliament  for  the 
Borough  of  Croydon, in the room  of  the  Right 
Honourable  Hugh  Oakeley  Arnold  -  Forster, 
deceased.—(Sir  Alexander Acland-Hood.) 

Several Public  Petitions were  presented, and public 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Petitions. 
Yide  First 
Report. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,—Return  County  Court 

to  an  Address  to  His  Majesty,  dated the  16th  Procedure, 
day of this instant March, for a Return  relative 
to County  Court Procedure. 

71. 

VOL. 164. 

K  2 

 
 
 
 
 
 


ldth  March. 

1909. 

.[No, 24. 

Metropolitan  Mr,  Secretary  Gladstone  also  presented, 
Cattle  Market. p u r s u a nt  to  the  directions  of  several  Acts  of 
Parliament,—Accounts of the Corporation of the 
City of London  in  respect  of  the  Metropolitan 
Cattle  Market  for  the  year  1908;  also  an 
Account of  extraordinary  works executed, other 
than the general  repairs, for the same period. 

Prisons 
Copy  of  Draft Rules proposed  to  be made  by 
(England  and  the  Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Depart­
'
Wales )
No. 72. 

ment  under  the  Prisons  Acts,  1877  and  1898, 
with respect  to the  constitution  of  the  Visiting 
Committee  of  Newcastle-upon-Tyne  Prison. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon the 
Table;  and  that  the  said Return and the Paper 
relative  to  Prisons  (England  and  Wales)  be 
printed. 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Treaty  Series 
(No.  7, 1909.) 

International 
Naval 
Conference 
(Miscel­
laneous, 
No.  4,  1909.) 

International 
Naval 
Conference 
(Miscel­
laneous, 
No.  5, 1909.) 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic 
and  Consular Reports, Annual  Series, No. 4183. 
Copy  of  additional  Agreement  between  the 
United  Kingdom  and  Bulgaria  modifying  the 
Convention  of  Commerce,  Customs  Duties, and 
Navigation  of  9th  December  1905.  Signed  at 
Sofia, 9th February  1909. 

Copy  of  Correspondence  and  Documents 
respecting  the  International  Naval  Conference, 
held  in  London,  December  1908—February 
1909. 

Copy  of  Proceedings  of  the  International 
Naval  Conference,  held  in  London,  December 
1908—February  1909. 

Ordered, That the  said Papers do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Navy
Command,—Copy  of  Statement  showing  the 
Estimates,
(Programme  of probable  effect-  on  the  Programme  of.  Ship-
  building, Repairs,  Maintenance,  &c. set forth  in 
Shipbuiiding,
Repairs, 
the  Navy  Estimates,  1908-9,  due  to  Reappro­
Maintenance, 
priation of Cash Provision,  &c. 
&c.) 

No. 73. 

Ordered,  That the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

National
Museums
on  Sites, &c.)

Ordered, That there  be laid  before  this  House 

a  E,eturn  showing  the  sums  of  public  money 
  spent,  respectively,  in  England,  Scotland,  Ire­

land, and  Wales during the last ten years  on the 
purchase  of  Sites, the  erection  of  new  buildings, 
and  the  extension  of  existing  buildings,  for 
National  Museums  maintained  out  of  public 
money.—(Mr. Gulland.) 

Eastbourne 
Gas Bill. 

Mr.  Mooney  reported  the  Eastbourne  Gas 

Bill, with  Amendments. 

the  following  Member  from  Standing  Com­
mittee  C  :—Mr.  Carlile ;  and  had  appointed in 
substitution:  Mr.  Mac Caw. 

Ordered, That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Representation 
Second  Reading  of  the  Representation  of  the  of the  People 
People  Bill;  

Bm-

And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by leaving  out  the  word  "now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words "  upon this day six months."—{Mr. Henry
Forster.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word "  now "  stand  part of  the  Question  :—And 
a Debate  arising  thereupon  ; 

Mr.  Howard rose  in his  place  and  claimed  to 

move, That the  Question  be now  put. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  Ques-  Question put 

tion  be now  put; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Howard, 

of Debate.) 

\ 158 

Yeas, 

[Mr.  Arthur Henderson  : ) 
Tellers for the f Sir Frederick Banbury, \ 
j 

[Mr.  Lonsdale : 

Noes, 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And the  Question being accordingly put, That 

the word  "  now "  stand part of the  Question ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the J Mr.  Howard, 

Yeas, 

\ 
{Mr.  Arthur Henderson  :J 

6

Noes 1" 
' 

.

Hooli>

I 
[Viscount  Valentia : 

122. 

. 
J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the  Main  Question being  put; 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be now  read a second 
time :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  a  second 
time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Monday 
next.—(Mr. Howard.) 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Tellers for  th  I 

Alexander  Acland­

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Franchise and 

Table;  and be printed. 

Private  Bills 
(Group  A.) 

Mr. Mooney reported from the  Committee  on 

Group  A  of  Private  Bills ;  That, for  the  con­
venience of parties, the Committee had adjourned 
till  Thursday  next,  at  half-past  Eleven  of  the 
clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee A. 

Sir  William  Brampton Gurdon reported from 
the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had 
discharged the following Members from Standing 
Committee  A:—Mr.  Talbot  and  Colonel  Hall 
Walker;  and  had  appointed  in  substitution (in 
respect  of  the  Sale  of  Intoxicating  Liquors  on  

Sale of 
Intoxicating  Sunday  Bill)  :  Mr.  Remnant  and  Mr.  James

Liquors on  Mason.
Sunday Bill. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Franchise  and Removal  Removal of 
S m i e  s 
of  Women's  Disabilities  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time Bm­

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Registration 

Second  Reading  of  the  Registration  of  Clubs 
(Ireland)  Bill;  

°{ab® 

(Ireland)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Handloom 
Second  Reading  of  the  Handloom  Weaving  Weaving  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Voters 

Staftding 
Committee  C.  from the  Committee;  That  they had discharged  Registration)  Bill ; 

Sir William Brampton  Gurdon further reported Second Reading  of the Voters (Qualification  and  (Qualification  

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19$—22nd  March. 

69 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 
upon Monday the 29th day of this instant March. 

the  Standing  Orders  have  not  been  c o m p l i ed   complied 
with, viz. :— 

wi 

Police  Super­
annuation 
•(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Superannuation 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Open  Spaces 
{Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland) 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Tuesday next. 

Trawlers' 
Certificates 
Suspension 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Trawlers'  Certificates 
Suspension  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Wednesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Sale  of  Margarine  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

Sale  of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

upon  Monday  next. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant 
to  Standing  Order  No.  3,  it  being then 
fiixteen minutes  after  Five  of  the  clock, 
till Monday  next. 

[No.  25.] 

Monday, 22nd March  1909. 
The House met at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three  of  the  clock. 

P  R A T E R S. 

Private  Bills 
(Standing 
Orders not 
previously 
inquired  into 
complied 
with.) 

I J~R.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
_Y_L  from one of the Examiners of Petitions  for 
rivate Bills,  That  in the case  of  the  following 
Bills,  referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, 
the  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired 
into,  and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have 
been  complied  with,  viz.:— 

Edgware  and  Hampstead  Railway  Bill. 
Hoiywood  Tramways  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bills be read  a second time. 

Provisional 
Order Bills 
(no  Standing 
Orders 
applicable.) 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in the case of  the following 
Bill, referred  on the  First  Reading  thereof, no 
Standing  Orders are applicable,  viz. :— 

Indian  Railways  (Sinking  Funds  Invest­

ment)  Bill  [Lards]. 

Ordered,  That  the Report  be referred  to  the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

The  Leyland  and  Farington  Gas  Bill  was Leyland  and 
Farington  Gas 

r e ad  t he  t h i rd  t i me  a nd  p a s s e d. 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Wandsworth  Borough  Council  (Super-  Wandsworth 

annuation)  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and  Borough 
i 
-.  Council. 
passed. 

(Superannua-

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to  « o n)  Bill. 

the Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The  North  West  London  Railway  Bill  was  North  West 

read a second time, and committed. 

London 
Railway  Bill. 

The  Newry,  Keady,  and Tynan  Railway  Bill  Newry, Keady, 

was, according  to  Order, read a second time, and and  Tynan 
committed. 

Bailway  Bill. 

Mr.  Attorney  General,  Mr. Attorney  General  Divorce  Bills, 

for Ireland,  Sir  Edward  Carson,  Mr.  Cave, Sir  . 
David  Brynmor  Jones, Sir John  Kennaway,  Sir 
Joseph Leese,  Mr.  Solicitor  General,  and  Mr. 
Solicitor  General  for  Ireland  were  nominated 
Members  of  the  Select  Committee  on  Divorce 
Bills.—(Mr. Joseph  Pease.) 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his  Denbigh 
Warrant  to  (he  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make  County 
out a new Writ  for the electing  of  a  Member to  k^on). 
serve  in this present Parliament for  the  County  Writ, 
of  Denbigh  (Eastern  Division),  in the room of 
Edward  George  Hemmerde, Esquire, K.C., who, 
since  his  Election  for  the  said  county,  hath 
accepted  the  Office  of  Recorder  of  the  City  of 
Liverpool.—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

Several Public  Petitions  were presented, and  Public 

read ;  and ordered to lie  upon the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide First 
Report. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Sugar 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  Convention 
(Commercial, 
the  British  Delegate  to  the International  Sugar No.  1, 1909.) 
Commission, December  1908. 

Copy  of  Treaty  with  the  United  States United  States 
(No.  2,  1909.) 

relating  to  Boundary  Waters,  and  questions 
arising  along  the  Boundary  between  Canada 
and the  United  States.  Signed  at  Washington, 
11th January  1909. 

Copy  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, Trade  Reports 

Land Drainage  Provisional  Order  Bill. 

Annual  Series, No. 4184. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Table. 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the 


(Annual 
Series.) 


Private Bills 
(Standing 
Orders not 
previously 
inquired  into 
not  complied 
with.) 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case of  the following 
Bill, referred  on the First  Reading  thereof, the 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into, 
and which  are applicable  thereto,  have  not been 
complied  with, viz. :— 

Sligo  and Bundoran  Railway  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Report  be  referred  to  the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Women  and 
Command,—Copy  of Information obtained  from Children in 
Public-
the  Police  as  to  the  frequenting  of  Public- Houses 
Houses  by  Women  and  Children  in  the  six (Ireland.) 
county  boroughs  in Ireland. 

Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the Irish  Land 
Commission 

directions of several Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy (Rules.) 
of  Rules  under  the  Irish  Land  Purchase  Acts, 
dated  27th  February  1909,  made  by  the  Irish 
Land  Commission,  supplemental  to and amend­
ing  the Rules dated the  16th March  1897. 

Private  Bill 
Petitions 
[Lords]
(Standing 
Orders not 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in the case  of  the  Petition 
for  the  following  Bill, originating  in the  Lords, 

VOL.  164. 

Annual  Account  of  the  Sea  and  Coast Sea and Coast 

Fisheries 
Fisheries  Fund 
Fund 
Districts)  for  the  year  ending  31st  December (Ireland) 
1908. 

(Ireland)"  (Non  -  congested 

K  3 

(Non­
congested 
Districts.) 

Factory  and 
Workshop 
(Schemes  for 
Regulation  of 
Hours  of 
Employment, 
&c.  in 
Charitable 
Institutions.) 

Local  Loans 
Fund. 

No. 74. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  A. 

Sale of 
Intoxicating 
Liquors  on 
Sunday  Bill. 

7 0 

11th—ISth  March. 

1909. 

[No. 22. 

Ordered,  That the said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented, pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copy  of  Scheme  for the regulation  of  Hours of 
Employment,  intervals,  and holidays of workers 
in  the  Chester  Diocesan  House  of  Mercy, 
approved by the  Secretary of  State in pursuance 
of  the  powers  conferred  on him by the  Factory 
and  Workshop  Act,  1907. 

Ordered,  That the  said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions of  an Act  of  Parliament, was laid upon the 
Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House  :—Accounts 
of  Receipts  and Payments by the Commissioners 
for the Reduction of the National Debt in respect 
of  the  capital  and  income  of  the  Local  Loans 
Fund,  for  the  year  ended  3lst  March  1908 ; 
together  with  the  Report  of  the  Comptroller 
and Auditor  General thereon. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  be printed. 

Congregational  Chapel  in  Wade  Street,  in  the and  Trust 
City of Lichfield, and the Congregational Chapel ^arit^Bill 
at  Longdon,  in  the  County of  Stafford, and the   ^ ^  ^g' 
trust  property  held  in  connection  with  such 
chapels :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be read 
a  second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Mr.  Soares  presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  a  Dewsbury 
Scheme  of  the  Charity  Commissioners  for  the ?fd  Batley 
management  of  the  Charities  consisting  of  the  tional  Ohapel 
Trinity  Congregational  Chapel  and  the  Eben-  Charities  BilL 
ezer  Congregational  Chapel  Burial  Ground  Bill 109. 
Caretaker's  House  and  Mission  Room,  in  the 
Parishes  of  Dewsbury  and Batley,  in the  West 
Riding  of  the  County  of  York  ;  And  the same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  next;  and to  be printed. 

Mr.  Soares  presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  a Wortley 
Scheme  of  the  Charity  Commissioners  for  the  Congrega­
management  of  the  Charity  consisting  of  the charity Bifl? 
Bethel  Congregational  Chapel  and  trust pro-  gin  n o. 
perty  at  Wortley,  in  the  City  of  Leeds:  And 
the  same  was  ordered  to  be  read  a second time 

Sir  William'BramptonGurdon  reported  from upon  Monday next;  and to be printed. 

the Committee  of Selection;  That  they had dis­
charged  the following  Members  from  Standing 
Committee   A :  —  Mr.  Remnant,  Mr.  James 
Mason,  and  (in  respect  of  the  Sale  of  Intoxi­
cating  Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill)  Mr.  George
Thome-, and  had  appointed  in  substitution  (in 
respect  of  the  Sale  of  Intoxicating  Liquors  on 
Sunday  Bill) :  Mr.  Talbot, Colonel Hall  Walker, 
and Mr.  Charles  Roberts. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Outdoor  Relief 
Friendly 
Societies 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

' 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to­
morrow,  the  Outdoor  Relief  Friendly  Societies 
(Scotland) Bill  was read, and discharged. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Maintenance 
Provision 
BilL 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to­
morrow,  the  Maintenance  Provision  Bill  was 
read, and discharged. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  withdrawn. 

SirR. 
Whittington's 
Charity  Bill. 
Bill  105. 

Mr.  Soares  presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  a 
Scheme  of  the  Charity  Commissioners  for  the 
management  of  the  Charity  of  Sir  Richard 
Whittington,  under  the  management  of  the 
Mercers  Company  of  the  City  of  London  :  And 
the  same  was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second time 
upon  Monday  next;  and to  be  printed. 

Bridgend 
(Hope 
English 
Baptist 
Chapel, &c.) 
Charity  Bill. 
Bill  106. 

Mr.  Soares  presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  a 
Scheme  of  the  Charity  Commissioners  for  the 
management of  (1)  the  Charity  consisting  of the 
proceeds  of  sale of  Hope  English Baptist Chapel 
in  Queen  Street,  in  the Township  of Bridgend, 
in  the  Parish  of  Coity,  in  the  County  of  Gla­
morgan ;  and  (2)  the  Charity  consisting  of the 
Hope  English  Baptist  Sunday  Schoolroom  in 
Queen  Street  aforesaid  :  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be  read  a second time upon  Monday 
next j  and to be  printed. 

John 
Marshall's 
Charity  Bill. 
Bill  107. 

Mr.  Soares  presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  a 
Scheme  of  the  Charity  Commissioners  for  the 
management  of  the  Charity  of  John  Marshall : 
And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be  read a second 
time upon Monday next;  and to be  printed. 

  Mr.  Soares  presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  a 
Lichfield  and
Scheme  of  the  Charity  Commissioners  for  the 
Longdon
tiona^Chapels  management  of  the  Charities  consisting  of  the 

A  Motion  was  made, and the Question being  Business ot 
put,  That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Business  of*ge Hj U^ 
Supply, if under discussion at Eleven of the clock 
this  night,  be  not  interrupted  under the  Stand­
ing  Order  (Sittings  of  the  House),  notwith­
standing  anything  in  Standing  Order  No.  15— 
(The  Prime  Minister); 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas to the  Right; 

The  Noes to the  Left. 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 
r 

m  u 
Tellers for the 
i N o e s  ' 

I Master of  Elibank -. 
f Sir  Alexander Acland- 1  

I 
I Lord  Edmund  Talbot.:  J  


^ 

1  (

2 2 3. 
J  ' 

^ 

So it  was resolved in the Affirmative. 


The  House, according  t o  Order, resolved  i t s e lf  Supply 

into  the Committee  of  Supply. 

[4th allotted 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Navy  Estimates,  1909-10. 

1.  Motion made, and  Question proposed, That 
128,000 Officers, Seamen,  and Boys be employed 
for  the  Sea  and  Coast  Guard  Services for the 
year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910, 
including  17,719  Royal  Marines:  —  Debate 
arising ; 

Mr. M'Kenna rose  in his place  and claimed to 

move,  That the  Question  be  now put. 

put, and agreed to. 

Question,  That  the  Question  be  now  put,  Question  put 
j^TcSuw 
Question, That  128,000  Officers, Seamen, and °-r Debate.) 

Boys  be  employed  for  the  Sea  and  Coast Guard 
Services for  the  year ending  on  the 31st day  of 
March  1910,  including  17,719  Royal  Marines, 
put accordingly, and agreed to. 

2.  Motion made, and Question proposed, That 
a  sum  not  exceeding  £7,280,200  be granted  to 
His Majesty,  to defray the Expenses of  Wages, 
&c. to  Officers, Seamen, and Boys,  Coast  Guard, 
and  Royal Marines, which will come in course of 
payment during the year ending  on the 31st day 
of'March  1910 : 

Whereupon  Motion  made, and  Question  pro­
posed,  That  a  sum not exceeding  £7,280,100  be 

 


22nd  March. 

71 
The  Deputy  Chairman  also  acquainted  the  

House  that he  was  directed  to move,  That  the  

Committee may have leave  to sit again. 


No  25.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

•Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
•of  Debate.) 

•Question  pat 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

granted  for  the  said  Service—(Mr.  Jenkins):
—Motion,  by leave,  withdrawn. 

Original  Question  again  proposed  :—Debate 

arising  ; 

Mr. M'Kenna rose in his place and  claimed  to 

move, That the Question be  now put. 

Question,  That  the  Question  be  now  put, 

put, and agreed  to. 

Question,  That  a  sum  not 

exceeding 
£7,280,200  be granted for the  said  Service, put 
accordingly,  and agreed  to. 

3.  Motion made, and Question proposed,  That 
a  sum  not  exceeding  £890,200  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty, to defray the Expense  of  Half  Pay 
and  Retired  Pay  to  Officers  of  the  Navy  and 
Marines, which will  come  in  course of  payment 
during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of 
March  1910 :•—Debate arising ; 

Mr.  M'Kenna rose in his place  and claimed  to 

move, That the  Question be  now put. 

Question,  That  the  Question  be  now  put, 

put, and agreed to. 

Question, That a sum not exceeding  £890,200 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  defray  the 
Expense  of  Half  Pay  and  Retired  Pay  to 
Officers  of  the  Navy  and  Marines, which  will 
come  in  course  of  payment  during  the  year 
ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910,  put 
accordingly, and agreed to. 

4.  £1,387,800 for  Naval and Marine Pensions, 

Gratuities, and Compassionate  Allowances. 

5.  £369,800  for  Civil  Pensions  and  Gra­

tuities. 

6.  £2,916,300  for  Works,  Buildings,  and 
Repairs  at  Home  and  Abroad,  including  the 
cost  of  Superintendence,  Purchase  of  Sites, 
Grants  in  Aid,  and  other  charges  connected 
therewith. 

Resolutions to be reported. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed the Chair ;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  come  to  several 
Resolutions. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may have  leave  to 
sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,  


again resolve  itself  into the said  Committee.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  Land 

Second  Reading of  the  Irish  Land  Bill; 

BilL 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second time 

upon  Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Indian 

Second  Reading  of  the  Indian  Councils  Bill  Councils  Bill 
{Lords}-, 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan-  Town 
ning,&c.Bill; 

Planning,  &c. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs  and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  I>nland  T1.„ 
Revenue  Bill. 
t> 
R e v e n ue  B i l l; 

r>-n 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Houses  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament 
Bill;  

BiU-

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Buildings and 
Second  Reading of the  Buildings  and  Engineer-  Engineering 
ing  Works  Bill ; 
Works  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a  second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply  Supply  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  places  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  W o r s h ip   Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

_ 

K m  1  "  ' 

Ordered, That  the Bill be read  a second  time 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

upon Monday  next. 

again resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Ways  and 
Means, 

The House, according to Order, resolved itself 

into the  Committee  of Ways  and Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

1.  Resolved,  That,  towards  making  good  the 
Supply  granted  to  His  Majesty for the  Service 
of  the  years  ending  on  the 31st day of  March 
1908  and 1909, the  sum of  £195,405  4s. 10tf. be 
granted  out  of  the  Consolidated  Fund  of  the 
United  Kingdom. 

2.  Resolved,  That, towards  making  good  the 
Supply  granted  to  His  Majesty  for the  Service 
of  the  year  ending  on  the  31st day of  March 
1910, the  sum of £48,475,000  be granted  out of 
the  Consolidated  Fund of the  United  Kingdom. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trawling in 

Second  Reading  of  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited  ^ j . b i t od 
Areas (Prevention)  Bill ; 

(Prevention) 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second  time Bl11­

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Board  of 

Committee  on Board  of  Trade [Salary] ; 

Trade^ _ 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

The Order of  the  day being read, for receiving  Supply 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  E15th March]
the  15th day of  this instant  March ; 

Keport-

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

Resolutions to  be reported. 

morrow. 

Mr. Deputy  Speaker resumed the  Chair;  and 
the  Deputy  Chairman  reported,  That  the 
Committee had come  to  several  Resolutions. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving  Supply 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  [ 1 0 t  h  March] 
the  10th day of  this instant March ; 

Eeport-

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

VOL. 164. 

morrow. 

k  4 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

72 

22nd—23rd  March. 

1 9 0 9. 

[No.  26. 

Secretary  of 
the  Board  of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Board 
of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

Supply 
[11th  March] 
Report. 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the  11th day  of this instant  March; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

Coroners' 
Inquests  BilL 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading.of  the  Coroners'  Inquests  Bill; 
Ordered, That the  Bill be read  a  second  time 

upon Monday  the  19th day of  April  next. 

Irish  National 
Schools 
(Heating  and 
Cleansing) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating  and  Cleansing)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Law  Agents
(Scotland)  Act  Second  Reading  of  the  Law  Agents  (Scotland) 
Amendment 
Bill. 

Act  Amendment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

[No.  26.] 

Tuesday, 23rd March  1909. 

The  House met at a quarter of  an hour  

before Three  of' the  clock.  


P R A Y E R S. 

THE  North  Metropolitan  Electric  Power  North 

Supply  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and Metropolitan  •> 
Electric  Power 
Supply  Bill. 

nasspd 
passea. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The  House proceeded  to  take  into considera-Thames 
tion  the  Thames  Tunnel  (North  and  S o u t  h  Tunnel 
Woolwich)  Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee.  South 

(North  and 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read the third time.  Wooiwich) 

Bill. 

' 

Torrens'  Divorce  Bill  [Lords']  was  read  a Torrens' 

second  time, and committed. 

Divorce  Bill 
\_Zords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the North  and 
Second  Reading of the North  and  South  Shields |^rf 0 h i e l d3 
Electric  Railway  Bill;  
Eailwaj  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Wednesday  the 21st day  of  April  next. 

Territorial 
Army  Ballot 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Territorial  Army  Ballot 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London  and 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  a nd  N o r th  North  Western 
Railway  Bill. 
Western  Railway  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Women's 
Enfranchise­
ment  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Women's  Enfranchise­
ment  Bill; 

The  Land  Drainage  Provisional  Order  Bill  Land  Drainage 

was, according  to  Order, read a second time, and £r°Tisi2°al 
Order  Bill, 
-| 
• 
committed. 

' 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Friday  the 2lst  day of May  next. 

Episcopal 
Endowments 
BilL 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Episcopal  Endowments 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read a second time 
upon  Tuesday  the  30th  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

Contamination
of  Children
Bm-

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Contamination  of  Child­
ren  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Representation
of  the  People
Bill.

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  Committee  on the Representation  of the  People 

B iU  

. 

Resolved,  That this House will, upon Wednes­
day  the 31st  day of  this  instant  March, resolve 
itself into the said  Committee. 

Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

And  it  being  after half-past Eleven  of  the 
clock,  Mr. Deputy Speaker adjourned the 
House  without  Question put, pursuant to 
the  Standing  Order,  it  being  then  ten 
minutes before  Twelve  of  the  clock,  till 
to-morrow. 

Several Public  Petitions  were  presented, and  Public 

read  ;  and ordered to  lie upon the  Table. 

' 

1 

Petitions. 
Vide  First 
Report. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Universities  of 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of O ^d   and 
Statute made by  the  Governing  Body  of  Saint 
John's  College,  Oxford, under the  Universities  (Oxford.) 
of  Oxford  and  Cambridge  Act,  1877,  on  6th  No. 75. 
November  1908,  amending  Statutes  III.  and 
X X  .  of the  Statutes  of  the  College. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper do lie  upon the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented, —- Return  to  an  Wines 
Order, dated the  12th day of  this instant March, Imported, 
for a Return relative  to  Wines imported. 

No. 76. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  15th  day of  Revenue 
this  instant  March,  for  a  Return  relative  to (Collection  of 
Revenue  (Collection  of  Taxes). 

"NO 

Ordered, That  the  said  Returns  do lie upon 

the  Table ;  and  be  printed. 

Mr.  Burns  presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com-  Marriages, 
mand,—-Copy of  General Abstract  of  Marriages,  Births, and 
Births,  and  Deaths  registered  in  England  and P^ffi^d) 
Wales in the year  1908.
0 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper do lie upon the 

Table. 

Ordered, That a Message  be sent to the Lords  Torrens' 
to  request  that  their  Lordships will  be pleased Pj™^®*11 
to  communicate  to  this  House  Copies  of  the
Minutes  of  Evidence  and  Proceedings,  together 
with  Documents  deposited, 
in  the  case  of 
Torrens'  Divorce  Bill  [Lords'] :  And  that  the 
Clerk  do carry  the said  Message. 

or 

 
 
 
 
 
 
No. 26.]  9  EDW.  YII. 

23rd  March. 

Ordered, That  it  be  ah  Instruction  to  the 
Select  Committee  on  Divorce  Bills  that  they 
do  hear  Counsel  and  examine  Witnesses  for 
Torrens'  Divorce  Bill  [Lords],  and  also  that 
they  do  hear  Counsel  and  examine  Witnesses 
against the Bill,  if  the  parties  concerned think 
fit  to  be  heard  by  Counsel  and  produce  Wit­
nesses.—(Mr.  Attorney  General.) 

Sir  William  Brampton Gurdon reported  from 
the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had 
discharged  the  following  Member  from  Stand­
ing  Committee  C:—Mr.  MacCaw,  and  had 
appointed  in substitution  :  Mr. Carlile. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for thej Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

[Master  of  Elibank  : 

}  249. 

Tellers for t\JS'lvJlefander 
H o o d ' 

Noes 
' 

) 
[Lord  Balcarres : 

JcW" 

77. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported  Supply 

from the  Committee of  Supply  of  the  22nd day [22nd March] 

Sir William Brampton  Gurdon further reported of  this  instant  March  several  Resolutions;  E e p o rt 

from  the  Committee;  That  they had  added  to  which were read,  as follow : 
Standing  Committee  B  the  following  Fifteen 
Members  (in  respect  of  the  Oaths  Bill)  : — 
Mr.  Bramsdon,  Sir  George  Scott Robertson,  Mr.  1.  That  128,000  Officers,  Seamen,  and Boys  Navy (Sea and 
Gulland,  Sir  Thomas Whittaker, Mr.  Wedgwood,be  employed  for  the  Sea  and  Coast  Guard C"®9* Guard 
Sir  John  Baker,  Sir  Luke  White,  Mr.  Mont- Services for  the  year  ending  on the 31st day  of  Ser7ices-) 
gomery, Mr.  Cave,  Mr. Evelyn  Cecil,  Mr.  James March  1910, including  17,719 Royal  Marines. 
Hope, Mr.  Hugh Law, Mr.  Ginnell,  Mr. Maddi­
son, and Mr. Younger. 

2.  That  a  sum  not exceeding  £ 7 , 2 8 0 , 2 00  be Wages, &c. 

Navy  Estimates,  1909-10. 

granted to  His  Majesty, to  defray  the  Expenses 
Sir  William Brampton Gurdon further reported of  Wages, &c.  to  OfficerSj  Seamen,  and  Boys, 
from  the Committee ;  That  they  had  added the  Coast  Guard,  and  Royal  Marines,  which  will 
following  Member  to  Standing  Committee  A  come  in  course  of  payment  during  the  year 
(in  respect  of  the  Sale  of Intoxicating  Liquors  ending  on the 31st day  of  March  1910. 
on Sunday  Bill):—Mr. Nicholls. 

Torrens' 
Divorce  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  C. 

Standing 
Committee B. 

Oaths Bill. 

Standing 
Committee A. 

Sale of 
Intoxicating 
Liquors  on 
Sunday  Bill. 
Chairmen's 
Panel. 

Sir William Brampton  Gurdon further reported 

from the  Committee  ;  That they  had discharged 
the  following  Member  from  the  Chairmen's 
Panel: — Sir  Thomas Esmonde  ;  and  had  ap­
pointed  in substitution  :  Mr.  T.  P.  O' Connor. 
Ordered, That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

StandiDg 
Committees 
(Chairmen's 
Panel.) 

Mr.  Stuart- Wortley reported  from the  Chair-
men's  Panel;  That  they  had  appointed  Mr. 
Eugene  Wason  to  act  as  Chairman  of  Standing 
Committee  B. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Bastardy Bill. 
B i ll  111. 

Sweated 
Industries 
(Importation.) 

Mr.  Arnold  Herbert,  supported  by  Mr. 
Maclean, Mr. Arthur  Henderson, Mr.  Lehmann,
and Mr. Molteno,  presented  a  Bill to amend  the 
Bastardy  Acts, and  for  other  purposes  relating 
thereto :  And  the same was  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time  upon  Friday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

A  Motion  was made, and the  Question  being 
proposed,  That leave be given  to  bring in  a Bill 
to  improve  the  conditions  of  employment  by 
prohibiting  the  importation  of  certain  goods 
unless manufactured  under  certain  conditions of 
labour—(Mr.  Harry Marks) ; 

Mr. Speaker 
puts the 
Question 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  No. 11.) 

And the  Motion  being  opposed,  after a brief 
explanatory  statement  from  the  Member  who 
made the  Motion,  Mr. Speaker put the Question, 
pursuant to  Standing  Order  No.  11. 

3.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £890,200  be  Half  Pay, &c. 
granted  to His  Majesty,  to  defray the  Expense ^  Officers 
of  Half  Pay  and Retired  Pay  to  Officers  of  the  a n d  Marines. 
Navy and  Marines, which  will  come  in  course 
of  payment  during the  year ending  on the  31st 
day of  March  1910. 

4.  That  a  Sum  not exceeding  £1,387,800  be Naval and 
granted  to  His  Majesty,  to defray the  Expenses Miarine ^ 
of  Naval  and  Marine Pensions,  Gratuities, and gratuities and 
Compassionate Allowances,  which  will  come  in  Compassionate 
course  of  payment  during  the  year  ending  on Allowances, 
the 31st day of  March  1910. 

5.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £369,800  be  Civil  Pensions 
granted  to  His  Majesty, to defray the  Expense and  Gratuities> 
of  Civil  Pensions  and  Gratuities,  which  will 
come  in  course  of  payment  during  the  year 
ending  on the 31st day  of  March  1910. 

6.  That  a  sum not exceeding  £2,916,300  be  Works, 

granted  to  His  Majesty, to  defray  the Expense  R ^ f a ' t ^  1 
of Works,  Buildings, and Repairs,  at Home  and  Home and 
Abroad, including  the  cost  of  Superintendence,  Abroad. 
Purchase  of  Sites,  Grants  in  Aid,  and  other 
charges  connected  therewith,  which  will  come 
in  course of  payment during  the year ending  on 
the 31st day  of March  1910. 

The  First  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
thereunto, by  leaving out "  128,000,"  and insert­
ing  "  108,000 "—(Mr. Lupton),—instead thereof. 

And 

the  Question  being  proposed,  That 
"  128,000 "  stand part of  the said Resolution  :— 
The  said  proposed  Amendment  was, with  leave 
of the House, withdrawn. 

And the Resolution was agreed  to. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Harry  Marks,

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Fell:

Tellers for the ("Mr. Lehmann,

Noes, 

\Mr.  Vivian: 
So it passed in the  Negative. 

\ 
J'  98. 
^^ 

J 

Ordered, That the Resolution  which, upon the 
10th  day  of  this  instant  March,  was  reported 
from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the  9th  day 
of  this  instant  March,  and  then  agreed  to  by 
the  House,  be  now  read;  and  the  same  was 
read, as followeth : 

Business of 
the House 
(Supply.) 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being 
put, That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Business  of 
Supply, if  under discussion when the  Business is 
postponed  this  day,  be  resumed  and proceeded 
with, though  opposed, after  the  interruption  of 
Business—(The  Prime  Minister)  ; 

VOL.  164. 

That a number  of  Land  Forces not  exceeding  Land  Forces. 

183,200, all ranks, be maintained for the  Service 
of  the  United  Kingdom  of  Great  Britain and 
Ireland  at  Home  and  Abroad,  excluding  His 
Majesty's  Indian  Possessions,  during the  year 
ending  on the 31st day of  March  1910. 

 
74 

11th—ISth  March. 

1909. 

[No. 22. 

Army 
(Annual.) 

Army 

Ordered,  That, leave  be  given  to  bring  in  a 
Bill  to  provide, during  Twelve  Months, for  the 
Discipline  and  Regulation  of  the  Army  :  And 
that  Mr.  Secretary  Haldane,  Dr.  Macnamara,
and Mr.  Aeland do prepare  and bring  it in. 

The  Second,  Third,  Fourth, and  Fifth  Reso­
lutions, being read a second time, Were agreed to. 
The  Sixth  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time ; 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

into further consideration  to-morrow,  


The  said  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second 

time,  were agreed  to. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Supply. 

Committee  of  Supply ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The Order  of  the day being read, for receiving  Ways  and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and j^e.an13,T 
keport 
Means of  the 22nd day of  this instant March ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

Kill  I19 

1

-r, *ii  Mr.  Acland  presented  a  Bill  to  provide, 
d u r i n S  Twelve  Month?,  for  the  Discipline  and  

Regulation  of  the  Army  :  And  the  same  was 
read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second time to-morrow ;  and to be printed. 

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways  and 

.Committee of Ways  and Means ; 

Means. 

Supply 
f l 5 th  March] 
Report. 

Mr. Aclahd  reported  from  the  Committee  of 
Supply  of  the  15th  day  of  this instant  March 
several Resolutions ; which were read, as follow : 

Colonial 
Services 
(Grants  in 
Aid.) 

Board  of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries. 

Civil  Services  Supplementary  Estimates, 
1908-9. 
Class  Y. 

1.  That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding 
£47,000  be  granted  to  His  Majesty, to defray 
the  charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  pay­
ment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day 
of  March  1909  for  sundry  Colonial  Services, 
including  certain  Grants  in  Aid. 

Class  II. 

2.  That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding 
£8,000  be granted  to His  Majesty, to defray the 
charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  payment 
during the year ending  on the 31st day of  March 
1909 for the  Salaries and Expenses of the Board 
of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries,  and of the  Royal 
Botanic  Gardens, Kew, including  certain  Grants 
in  Aid. 

The  said  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second 

time, were agreed  to. 

Supply
Re°OTtMarah]

ep0T '

Sir  Edward Strachey  reported  from the  Com­
  m i t t ee   o f  Supply  of  the  10th  day of  this instant 
March  several  Resolutions ; which were read, as 
follow : 

Civil  Services  Supplementary  Estimates, 
1908-9. 
Class  III. 

Prisons

1.  That  a  supplementary  sum  not  exceeding 
Wa*I?anda?he  £17,380  be  granted  to  His  Majesty, to defray 
the charge which will come in course of  payment 
Colonies.)
during  the  year  ending  on  the  3lst  day  of 
March  1909 for the Expenses  of  the  Prisons  in 
England,  Wales, and the  Colonies, 

National 
Gallery. 

Civil  Services 
(Excesses.) 

Class  IV. 

2.  That  a  supplementary  sum  hot  exceeding 
£11,890  be  granted  to  His  Majesty, to defray 
the charge which will come in  course of  payment 
during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of 
March  1909 for a Grant in Aid for the  purchase 
of a Picture for the National  Gallery. 

Civil  Services and Revenue  Departments 
(Excesses),  1907-8. 

3.  That  a sum  not  exceeding  £1,380 4s. 10d. 
be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  make  good 
excesses  on  certain  Grants  for  Civil  Services 
and Revenue  Departments for the year ended on 
the 31st day of  March  1908,  viz.:— 

Class  III. 

s.  d. 
Tote   3.  Supreme  Court  of  Judicature  1,370  4  10 

£ 

Tote   3.  Post  Office 

Revenue  Departments. 
-

-

1 0 

0 

0 

£1,380  4  10 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan- Town 
ning, &c. Bill; 

BiuMing' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament 
Bill; 

BilL 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Board  of 
^Salary ]

Committee on Board of Trade [Salary] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of  Agriculture  and Fisheries Bill;

a nd

  Fisheries 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second time Bl11, 

to-morrow. 

The  Order of  the day being read, for receiving  Supply 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  [nth  March] 
the  11th day  of this instant  March ; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Glamorgan  Water  Board  Bill  was,  Glamorgan 
according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  a nd   Water  Board 
committed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Oldham 
Second  Reading  of  the  Oldham  Corporation  Corporation 
Bill;  

BllU 

And  a  Motion being  made, and the  Question 
being  proposed, That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time:—And  a  Debate  arising  there­
upon ; 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Debate  be  now 
adjourned— (Mr.  Morton) :—The  said  Motion 
was, with leave  of  the House, withdrawn. 
And  the Original  Question  being  put; 
Ordered,  That the Bill be now  read  a  second 
time :—The  Bill was  accordingly  read  a second 
time, and committed. 

The  Aldershot  Gas  and  Water  Bill  was,  Aldershot  Gas 

according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and  and  Water 
committed.

Bl11, 

A  Motion was made, and  the  Question  being  Land  Values 

proposed, That, in the opinion of this  House, the  Taxation. 



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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23rd—24$  March. 

75 

taxation  of  Land  Values  would  result  in  the 
owners  of  land  and  minerals  developing  these  Second  Reading  of  the  Rats  (Destruction)  (Destruction)  

national resources more rapidly, thereby  increas- Bill; 

ing the supply of  land and raw material available  Ordered, That  the  Bill be read  a second time 

for use,  and  providing  opportunities for  labour  upon  Tuesday  next.  

and the wealth-producing  powers of  the country, 

and therefore the imposition  of  such a tax  should  

be provided for without delay—(Mr.  0'  Grady); 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Rats  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Open  Spaces 
Second  Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland) (Scotland) 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to be made  to  Bill; 


the Question, in  1.  1,  by  leaving  out  from  the  
 Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second time 
word "  House "  to the end of  the Question,  and  upon Thursday  next. 
adding  the  words  " it  is  unjust  to  impose new  

taxation  upon  property  in  land at a higher  rate  

than  upon  other  forms  of  property" —  (Mr. 
Harold Cox),—instead thereof. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating  and Cleansing)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  National 

and 

Cleansing) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That the 
words proposed  to  be  left out stand part of  the 
Question : —And a Debate  arising thereupon ; 

And  it  being  Eleven  of  the clock,  the  Debate 

stood adjourned. 

Waste  Lands 
(Ireland) 
Improvement 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Waste  Lands  (Ireland) 
Improvement  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time  BllL 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Law  Agents 
Second  Reading  of  the  Law  Agents  (Scotland)  (Scotland) 
Act  Amendment  Bill;  

Amendment 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time Bil1­

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a  second time 
upon  Wednesday  the  31st  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Contamination 

Second  Reading of  the  Contamination of  Child- of  Children 
ren  Bill  ; 

T>-11 

Bill, 

Remission  of 
Surcharges 
(Dublin)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be read a second time 
Second Reading  of the  Remission of  Surcharges  upon  Wednesday  the  31st  day  of  this  instant 
(Dublin)  Bill; 

March. 


Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a  second  time  


upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sale of 
Second Reading of the  Sale of Margarine  Bill;  Margarine 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Pedlars Acts 
Amendment  Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend- to-morrow. 
Bill. 

ment  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Law  of Murder  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Amendment)   g e c o n ( ]  Reading of the  Law  of  Murder  (Amend­

ment)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Friday  the 2nd day  of  April  next. 

Deaths 
Registration 
and  Burials 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Residing  of  the Deaths Registration and 
Burials  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Friday the 2nd day of April  next. 

Purchase of 

, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
,  Second  Reading  of  the  Purchase  of  Land 

WaniSnBill 

(England  and  Wales)  Bill;  


Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a  second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  31st  day  of  this  instant 
March. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit till twenty-seven  minutes after  Eleven 
of  the clock, adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

[No.  27.] 

Wednesday, 24th March  1909. 
The  House  met at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

THE  House proceeded  to take  into  considera-  Littlehampton 

tion the Littlehampton Gas Bill, as amended  Gas BiU­

in the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The Baker  Street and  Waterloo  Railway  Bill  Baker  Street  

and  Waterloo 
Railway  Bill, 

was read a second time, and committed. 

' 

Nurses 
(Registration)  Second  Reading  of  the  Nurses  (Registration) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Bill be read  a second time to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the  Central  London  Railway  Central 
London 
Railway  Bill. 

Bill; 

Ordered,  That  so much  of  Standing  Order  91  Standing 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second  time as  fixes  Five  as  the  quorum  of  the  Select0rders­

upon  Wednesday  the  31st  day  of  this  instant  Committee  on  Standing  Orders  be  read,  and 
March. 

suspended. 

Ordered,  That for the remainder of the Session 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the  Committee.—(Mr. 

Death 
Certificates s x>*,,  Second  Reading  of  the  Death  Certificates  Ellis.)
(Charges)BlU-(Charges)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill be  read  a second time  Ordered,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the  Glamorgan 

upon Thursday  next. 

Committee  on  the  Glamorgan  Water  Board  Water  Board 
Bill  that  they  have  power to  inquire  whetherBlU" 

Ecclesiastical 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  the promoters  have made adequate  provision  by 
Assessments  Second  Reading  of  the  Ecclesiastical  Assess- the  Bill  for  the  supply  of  water  at  reasonable 
(bcotland) 
rates  to  the  agricultural  community within the 
Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second  time area  of  supply,  and  to  any  person  or  persons 
from  whom  any  existing  or  natural  supply  is, 
L  2 

upon Tuesday  next. 

m e n tg   ( g c o t J)   B i ll  

V O L.   1 6 4. 

. 

76 
or  may  be,  withdrawn  owing  to  the  works  or 
undertakings  authorised  by  the  Bill,  and  that 
they  further  have  power  to  insert  in  the  Bill 
such Clause  or  Clauses,  as they  think  necessary, 
to impose upon  the  promoters  the obligation  to 
provide  such  supply.—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

11th—ISth 

March. 
Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department  

under  the  Prisons  Aet,  1898,  with  regard  to  

Prisoners between the ages of sixteen and twenty-

one. 


1909. 

[No. 22. 

Oldham
Corporation

Ordered,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
  Committee  on the Oldham  Corporation  Bill  that 
they  have  power  to  inquire  whether  the  pro­
moters  have  made  adequate  provision  by  the 
Bill  for  the  supply  of  water  at reasonable  rates 
to  the agricultural  community  within the area of 
supply, and to any person  or persons from whom 
any  existing  or  natural  supply  is,  or  may  be, 
withdrawn  owing  to  the  works  or  undertakings 
authorised  by  the  Bill,  and  that  they  further 
have  power  to  insert  in  the  Bill  such  Clause or 
Clauses,  as they think  necessary, to impose  upon 
the  promoters  the  obligation  to  provide  such 
supply.—(Mr. Pretyman.) 

Aidershot  Gas
and  Water

Ordered,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
Committee  on  the  Aidershot  Gas  and  Water 
Bill  that  they  have  power  to  inquire  whether 
the promoters  have  made adequate  provision  by 
the  Bill  for  the  supply  of  water  at  reasonable 
rates  to  the  agricultural  community  within  the 
area of supply, and to any person or  persons from 
whom  any  existing  or natural supply  is, or  may 
be,  withdrawn  owing  to  the  works  or  under­
takings  authorised  by  the  Bill,  and  that  they 
further  have  power  to  insert  in  the  Bill  such 
Clause  or  Clauses,  as  they  think  necessary,  to 
impose  upon  the  promoters  the  obligation  to 
provide  such supply.—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  First 
Report. 
Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Trade  Reports 
(Miscellaneous 
Series.) 

Emigration.

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon  the  Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic 
and Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series, No.  4185. 

Copy  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, 

Miscellaneous  Series,  No.  676. 

Ordered, That  the  said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  on  the  Emigrants' 
Information  Office  for  the  year  ended  31st 
December  1908. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return to an  Order, 
Prices of
Exported  Goal, dated  the  17th  day  of  this  instant March, for a 

No. 78.

  Return  relative  to  Prices  of  exported  Coal. 

Ordered, That the said  Return  do lie  upon  the 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

port  of

London  Act,
1908­

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
  Command,—Copy of  Regulations  made  by  order 
of the Board of  Trade under the  Port  of  London 
Act,  1908,  with  reference to the  issue, transfer, 
&c. of Port  of  London  Stock. 

Weights  and
Measures.

Mr.  Churchill  also  presented,  pursuant to the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 

No. 79.

  Report  by  the  Board  of  Trade  on  their  Pro­

ceedings  and  Business  under  the  Weights  and 
Measures  Acts, 

Ordered, That the said  Papers do lie  upon the 
Table;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  Weights 
and  Measures be  printed. 

Prisons
(England  and
N  80

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant 
  t o   t j i e  directions of  an Act of  Parliament,—Copy 
Draft  Rules  proposed  to  be  made  by  the 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table ;  and be  printed.  


The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon  stolen  

Friday  next,  th-3  Stolen  Precious  Metals  B i l  l  Precious  

was read, and  discharged. 

Metals mu. 


Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time  


upon  Friday  the  7th  day  of  May  next.  


Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message  from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords by  l l |e  Lords, 
one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth  : 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Anglo-
Act  to  make  provision  with  reference  to  the Argentine 
rearrangement  of  the  capital  of  the  Anglo- companySBill 
Argentine  Tramways  Company,  Limited;  to [Eorrfs.] 
which the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An  London, 

Act  to  enable the  London,  Chatham, and  Dover 
Railway  Company  to  raise  further  capital;  to  Railway  Bill 
which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this  [Lords.]
House. 

The  Anglo-Argentine  Tramways  Company  Anglo-

Bill  [.Lord*]  was read the first time. 

i S l y  ! 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  Company  Bill 

Examiners of Petitions  for  Private  Bills. 

[Lords.] 

The  London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railway  London, 

Bill  \Lords']  was read the first time. 

L 

J 

Chatham, 
and  Dover 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  Railway  Bill 

Examiners of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

[Lords.] 

Mr.  Dundas White, supported  by Mr.  Findlay,  Hypothec 
Mr.  Barnes,  Mr. Murray  Macdonald,  Sir  George  Abolition 
M'Crae,  Mr.  Smeaton, Mr.  Cleland,  Mr.  Wilkie, O^tland) 
Mr.  Gulland,  Mr.  Watt,  Mr.  M'Callum,  and  B i ll  1 13 
Mr.  Price,  presented  a  Bill  to  abolish  the  land­
lord's  Hypothec  for  rent  in  Scotland:  And  the 
same  was ordered  to be  read a second  time  upon 
Monday  the  26th day  of  April  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Mr.  Cathcart  Wason,  supported  by  Mr.  Local 
Harmsworth,  Sir  John  Dewar,  Mr.  Eugene  ^ ^^ 
Wason,  Sir  Henry  Craik,  Viscount  Dalrymple,  £jj_ 
Major  Anstruther - Gray,  Mr.  Younger,  Mr.   gm  j  ^ 
Mitchell-Thomson,  Mr.  Cross,  Mr.  Weir,  and 
Mr.  Gulland,  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the 
Local  Government  (Scotland)  Act,  1894:  And 
the  same  was  ordered  to  be  read a second time 
upon  Wednesday  next;  and to  be  printed. 

Mr.  George  Greenwood,  supported  by  Sir  Cruelty  to 
Frederick  Banbury,  Sir  Francis  Charming, Mr. -Animals 
MacNeill,  Mr.  Crooks, Mr.  Lehmann, Mr.  Mad­
dison,  Mr.  Luttrell,  Mr.  John  Robertson,  Mr. 
Winfrey,  and Mr.  Manfield, presented  a  Bill  to 
amend the  Cruelty  to Animals Act,  1876  ;  And 
the same was  ordered  to  be  read  a second  time 
upon Friday  the  2nd day  of  April  next;  and  to 
be  printed. 

Mr. James Haslam, supported by Mr.  William  Engines  and 

Johnson,  Mr.  Frederick  Hall,  Mr.  Wadsworth,  Boilers 
Mr.  Steadman,  Mr.  Wilkie,  and  Mr.  William khtrge)SffilI. 
Harvey, presented  a Bill  to grant  Certificates  to 
persons  in charge  of  steam  and  motor  Engines, 
Boilers,  and  steam  and  motor  cranes :  And  the 
same was ordered to  be read  a  second  time  upon 
Friday  the  2nd  day  of  April  next  ;  and  to  be 
printed. 

|

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
No. 28.]  9  Edw.  YII. 

25th March. 

Hours of 
Labour 
(Bakehouses) 
Bill. 

Mr.  Wilkie,  supported by  Mr.  Steadman,  Mr.  	

Gill, Mr. Bowerman,  Mr.  Bell,  Mr.  Barnes, Mr. 	 Exchequer  and  Audit  Department 
James  Haslam, Mr.  Shackleton, Mr.  Thome, and  Friendly  Societies Registry
Bill 117.  Mr.  Chiozza  Money, presented  a Bill  to  restrict  Local  Government  Board  • 

  . 
-

the hours in Bakehouses  to eight  hours  per day 
-
and not  more  than  forty-eight  hours  per  week,  Mint  (including  Coinage)  -
and  to regulate  the  same  :  And  the  same  was  National  Debt  Office , 
ordered  to  be read a  second  time upon  Wednes-
Public  Record  Office -
-
day next;  and to  be printed. 	
Public  Works  Loan  Commission 
- 
Registrar  General's  Office 
-
-
Stationery  and Printing 

Lunacy  Commission­

-

-

-

-

77 
£ 
25,000 
3,500 
85,000 
5,500 

- 

- 

. 

- 

- 

- 
- 

10 
6,000 
10,000 
1,000 
15,000 
-  330,000 

. 

-

-

-

-
-

-

Trade  Boards. 

A  Motion  was made,  and the  Question  being 
proposed, That leave be given to  bring  in a Bill 
to provide for the establishment  of  Trade Boards 
for certain  trades—(Mr.  Churchill) ; 

And  the  Motion  being  opposed,  after a brief 
Mr.  Speaker 
puts  the 
explanatory  statement  from  the  Member  who 
-Question 
(pursuant  to  made  the  Motion  and  from  a  Member  who 
S.O.  No.  11.)  opposed  it,  Mr.  Speaker  put  the  Question, 
pursuant to  Standing  Order  No. 11, 
And  the Question  was agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  Mr.  Churchill,  Mr.  Buxton, 
and  Mr.  Tennant do  prepare  and  bring  in  the 
Bill. 

Trade  Boards  Mr.  Churchill accordingly  presented  a  Bill  to 
provide  for  the  establishment  of  Trade  Boards 
Bill. 
for  certain  trades  :  And  the  same was read the 
first time, and ordered to  be  read  a  second  time 
to-morrow ;  and to be  printed.  	

Bill 118. 

Mr.  Sydney Buxton  reported  from  the  Com-
Supply-
f i l th  March]  mittee of  Supply  of the  11 th day  of  this  instant 
Report. 
March  a  Resolution;  which  was  read,  as 
followeth: 

Civil  Services and Revenue  Departments 
Estimates, 1909-10  (Vote  on  Account). 

That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £26,232,000  be 
  on  account,  for  or 
granted  to  His  Majesty,
towards defraying  the  charges for the following 
Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments  for 
the year ending  on  the 31st day of  March  1910, 
viz.:— 

Civil  Services. 

CLASS  I Y  . 

Board  of  Education

CLASS   I . 

-

Eoyal  Palaces 
Osborne 
Royal  Parks  and  Pleasure  Gardens
Houses  of  Parliament  Buildings
Salisbury  Memorial­
Miscellaneous  Legal  Buildings,  Great 

- 

-

-

-

-

-

-

£ 
,000,000 

7

20,000 
5,000 
64,000 
23,000 
1,000 

Britain	 

-

Art  and  Science  Buildings,  Great  Britain  - 
Diplomatic  and  Consular  Buildings 
- 
Revenue  Buildings	  
Public  Buildings,  Great  Britain 
Surveys  of  the  United  Kingdom 
Harbours  under  the  Board of  Trade 
-
Peterhead  Harbour 
-
Rates  on  Government  Property 
-
Public  Works  and  Buildings,  Ireland 
Railways,  Ireland

- 

-

-

-

-

-

 -

35,000 
36,000 
30,000 
226,000 
­   260,000 
90,000 
­  
26,000 
­  
- 
10,000 
-  300,000 
-  100,000 
35,000 

CLASS  I I. 

United  Kingdom  and  England  : 

-

-

-

-

-

-

- 

- 

-
- 

10,000 
-
House  of  Lords  Offices 
20,000 
House  of  Commons  Offices 
40,000 
Treasury  and  subordinate  Departments 
75,000 
Home  Office	 
24,000 
Foreign  Office 
25,000 
Colonial  Office	 
5,000 
Privy  Council  Office	 
-  100,000 
Board  of  Trade 
-
Mercantile  Marine  Services 
25,000 
- 
Bankruptcy  Department  of  the  Board  of 
-
-
- 
- 
- 

-
Board of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  -
-
Charity  Commission  -
-
-
Civil  Service  Commission  -

3 
75,000 
15,000 
17,000 

Trade 

- 
- 

-
-

-
-

-
-

-

-

-

-

V O L.  1 6 4. 

Woods,  Forests,  &c.,  Office of 
Works  and  Public  Buildings,  Office of 
Secret  Service 
Scotland  : 

-

-

-

-

-

-

Secretary  for  Scotland,  Office of 

-

. 

Fishery  Board 
Lunacy  Commission	 
Registrar  General's  Office -
Local  Government  Board  -

-

, 

-
-

-

-

-

Ireland  : 

- 
- 
- 

- 

- 

- 
- 

Lord  Lieutenant's  Household 
Chief  Secretary's  Offices  and  subordinate 
- 
-
Department  of  Agriculture  and  Technical 
-

Departments-

Instruction­

- 

- 

-

-

-

-

-

-

Charitable  Donations  and  Bequests  Office 
- 
Local  Government  Board 
- 
-
Public  Record  Office 
- 
Public  Works  Office  -
-
- 
Registrar  General's  Office 
- 
Valuation  and  Boundary  Survey 

-
-
-
-
-

-
-
-
-

United  Kingdom  and England  : 

CLASS  I I I. 

8,000 
37,000 
40,000 

25,000 

7,000 
'2,500 
1,500 
6,000 

2,000 

10,000 

100,000 
1,000 
30,000 
2,000 
16,000 
5,000 
7,000 

-

-

-
-

- 
- 

-
-
Law  Charges 
Miscellaneous  Legal  Expenses  -
- 
Supreme  Court  of  Judicature 
Land  Registry 
-
Public  Trustee­
County  Courts­
Police,  England  and Wales 
Prisons,  England  and the  Colonies 
Reformatory  and Industrial Schools, Great 

-
-

-
-

-
-

-
-

,
-

- 

-

-

-

-

-

-

40,000 
28,000 
150,000 
16,000 
300 
2 
15,000 
  330,000 

Britain

Broadmoor  Criminal  Lunatic  Asylum 

Scotland  : 

Law  Charges  and  Courts of  Law 
Register  House,  Edinburgh 
Crofters  Commission 
-
-
Prisons 

-

-

-

-

-
-

-

Ireland: 

140,000 
25,000 

30,000 
15,000 
2,000 
35,000 

25,000 

Legal  Departments 

Law  Charges  and  Criminal  Prosecutions 
Supreme  Court  of  Judicature  and  other 
43,000 
- 
­   120,000 
40,000 
­  
­  
60,000 
­   630,000 
45,000 
­  
55,000 
- 
4,000 
- 

Land  Commission 
County  Court  Officers, &c. 
Dublin  Metropolitan  Police 
Royal  Irish  Constabulary  ­
Prisons 
Reformatory  and Industrial  Schools 
Dundrum  Criminal  Lunatic  Asylum 

-
-

-

-

-

United  Kingdom  and England  : 

CLASS  I V. 

-

-

-

-

- 

British  Museum 
National  Gallery 
National Portrait  Gallery  -
Wallace  Collection 
-
Scientific  Investigation,  &c. 
Universities  and  Colleges,  Great  Britain, 
- 

and Intermediate  Education,  Wales 

-
-
- 

- 
- 

-
-

-

60,000 
8,000 
3,000 
3,000 
28,000 

75,000 

-
-

-
-

-
-

Scotland: 
Public  Education 
National  Galleries 
Ireland: 
Public  Education 
Endowed  Schools  Commissioners 
National  Gallery
Queen's  Colleges 

  -
-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

CLASS   V . 

Diplomatic  and  Consular  Services 
Colonial  Services 

-

-

-
L  3

-
-

,  -
-

-

- 

-

-
-

-  880,000 
3.000 
- 

-  800,000 
400 
- 
2,000 
2,500 

- 

-  255,000 
-  370,000 

	
 
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78 

24th March. 

1909. 

[No. 27. 

Telegraph  Subsidies  and Pacific  Cable 
Cyprus  (Grant  in  Aid) 

- 

- 

£ 
25,000 
49,000 

CLASS  V I. 

Superannuation  and Retired  Allowances  -  300,000 
Miscellaneous  Charitable  and  other  Allow­

-

-

-

 -

ances

~ 
-
Hospitals  and Charities,  Ireland 
- 
Savings  Banks  and  Friendly  Societies 
-
-
-4,000,000 
-

Deficiencies 
Old  Age  Pensions 

1»150 
16,000 

~ 
-

-
- 

— 

-
-

-
-

-

CLASS  V I I. 

Temporary  Commissions 

-

-

-

- 

20,000 

Miscellaneous  Expenses 
Repayments  to  the Local  Loans  Fund 
Ireland  Development  Grant 
Relief  of  Distress  (Ireland) 
- 
Government  Hospitality 

-
-

-
-

4,635 
— 

- 
-
-  100,000 

— 
5,000 

R e v e n ue  Departments. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Hours of 

Second  Reading  of  the Hours  of  Labour  (Sur-  Labour 
facemen)  Bill; 

^Surfacemen) 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a  second time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read.,  for  the Licensing 
Second  Reading  of  the  Licensing  Justices Bill;  Justices  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Nurses 

Second  Reading  of  the  Nurses  ( R e g i s t r a t i o n) 
(No. 2)  Bill; 

(Registration) 
(No.  2) Bui. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Friday the 7th day of  May  next. 

Customs  and  Excise 
Inland  Revenue
Post  Office 

-

  -
-

-

-

-

-

- 

-

-

700,000 
500,000 
-  6,700,000 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Feus and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Feus  and  Building  Building 
Leases (Scotland)  Bill; 

Leases 
(Scotland) 

^ 

Total  for  Civil  Services  and 
- 

Revenue  Departments 

£26,232,000 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Friday  the  7th day  of  May  next. 

The  said  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
thereunto,  by  leaving  out  "£26,232,000,"  and 
"£26,231,900  "—(Mr.  Nannetti),—
inserting 
instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That 
"  £26,232,000 "  stand  part  of  the  said  Resolu­
tion  :—And  a Debate arising  thereupon; 

Mr. Joseph Pease rose in his place and claimed 

to move,  That the  Question  be now put. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial industrial 
Tools Bill;  
T o o l s B l lL 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the p 0 i i c e  Super-

Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Superannuation  annuation 
(Scotland)  Bill;  
(Scotland) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  Ques­
tion  be  now  put:. —  It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trawlers' 
Second  Reading  of  the  Trawlers'  Certificates  Certificates 
Suspension  Bill ; 
Suspension 

Income Tax. 

Closure 
claimed,  but 
Mr.  Speaker 
withholds  his 
assent. 

Closure 
claimed,  but 
Mr.  Speaker 
withholds  his 
assent. 

And  the  Question being accordingly put, That 

"  £26,232,000 "  stand  part of  the  said  Resolu­
tion :—It  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the  Resolution  was agreed to. 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being 
proposed,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House, 
it is desirable  equitably to  graduate  the  Income 
Tax—(Mr.  Chiozza  Money) :—And  a  Debate 
arising  thereupon; 

Mr.  Chiozza  Money  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put;  but  Mr.  Speaker  withheld  his assent,  and 
declined then  to  put  that Question :—Then the 
House  resumed the  Debate. 

Mr.  Chiozza  Money  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put;  but  Mr.  Speaker  withheld  his assent, and 
declined  then  to  put that Question :—Then  the 
House resumed  the Debate. 

And it  being  Eleven  of the  clock, the  Debate 

stood  adjourned. 

Municipal
Elections Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
§ e c o n c i Reading of the Municipal Elections Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

Trade 
Disputes  Bill. 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Trade  Disputes  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second time 

upon Friday  next. 

Licensing  Bill.

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Licensing  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pedlars  Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-  Amendment 
ment Bill; 

BiU-

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish  National 

Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools  Schools 
(Heating  and  Cleansing) Bill; 

_ 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second  time Bin-

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Sale of 
Second Reading  of  the  Sale of  Margarine Bill;  Margarine 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Mr. Joseph Pease reported from the  Committee Ways and 

of  Ways  and  Means  of  the  22nd  day  of  this Means 
instant  March  several  Resolutions ;  which were feporc^011"1 
read, as follow: 

1.  That,  towards  making  good  the  Supply  Consolidated  


granted  to  His  Majesty for  the  Service  of  the  Fund-

years  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1908  

and  1909,  the  sum  of  £195,405  4s.  10d.  be  


franted  out  of  the  Consolidated  Fund  of  the 

Tnited Kingdom. 
2.  That,  towards  making  good  the  Supply  Consolidated 

granted  to  His  Majesty for  the  Service  of  the Fund-
year ending  on the 31st day of  March  1910, the 
sum of  £48,475,000  be  granted  ont of  the  Con­
solidated  Fund of the  United  Kingdom. 





 
No.  27 ]  9  EDW.  VII. 

24th—25th  March. 

79 

•Consolidated 
Fund (No.  2.) 

Consolidated 

Tund (No.  2) 

Bill. 

^  The  said  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second 
time, were  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  a Bill  be  brought  in  upou  the 
said  Resolutions:  And  that  the  Chairman  of 
Ways  and  Means,  Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer,  and  Mr.  Hpbhouse  do  prepare  and 
bring  it in. 

Mr. Hobhouse  accordingly  presented  a  Bill  to 
apply certain sums out of the Consolidated  Fund 
to the  Service of the years ending  on the  thirty-
first  day  of  March  one  thousand  nine  hundred 
and eight,  one  thousand  nine  hundred and nine, 
and  one  thousand  nine  hundred  and  ten :  And 
the  same  was  read  the  first  time,  and  ordered 
to be read  a second time to-morrow. 

[No.  28.]: 

Thursday,  25th March  1909. 
The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 

before  Three of the  clock.  


P R A T E R S. 

THE  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Jones's 

Second  Reading  of  Jones's  Almshouse  and Almshouse and 

Grammar  School  Foundation Bill; 
' 

Grammar 
School 

t 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  rend a second  time Foundation 

upon  Monday  the 5th day  of April  next. 

BilL 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Harwich 

Second  Reading  of  the Harwich  Docks  Bill; 

Docks  Bill. 

Board o£ 
Trade 
£Salary.] 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on Board  of  Trade  [Salary]. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That  it  is  expedient  to authorise an 
increase  in  the  salary  of  the  President  of  the 
Board  of  Trade,  to  be  paid  out  of  moneys 
provided by  Parliament.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Resolution  to be reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy Chairman reported,  That the  Committee 
had come  to a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Secretary of 
the Board of 
Agriculture 
and Fisheries 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Supply 
[22nd  March] 
Report 
(Deferred 
Resolution.) 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking 
into consideration  the  Sixth  of  the  Resolutions 
which, upon the 23rd day  of  this instant March, 
were reported  from the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 22nd day  of  this instant  March ; 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

into further consideration  to-morrow. 

Army 
(Annual)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of the Army  (Annual)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Central 
Second Reading of the Central London  Railway  London 
g j jj  . 

®  

J  Railway  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Several Public  Petitions were  presented, and  Public 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

' 

1 

f®1?61??8­
Vide  First 
Report. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to  university  of 

the directions of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  Saint 
of  Annual  Statistical  Report  by  the  University  Audrews-
Court  of  the  University  of  Saint  Andrews  for  No. 81. 
1907-8. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Transvaal. 

Command,— Copy  of  further  Correspondence 
relating  to  Legislation  affecting  Asiatics  in  the 
Transvaal. 

Ordered,  That the  said Paper  do  lie  upon the  


Table. 


Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing  standing  

Committee A,  to  whom  the  Trustees' Accounts  Committee  A.  

Bill  was referred ;  That they  had  gone  through
BiU 
the Bill  and made Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the

  No. 82. 

Table  ;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That the Minutes of the Proceedings

  No. 82. 

of  the  Standing  Committee  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the
Standing  Committee, be taken into  consideration 
upon Monday next;  and be printed. 

  Bill 119. 

Mr.  Russell Rea reported  the Wallasey Tram-  Wallasey 

ways and Improvements Bill, with Amendments. Tramways and 

Committee  of  Supply  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and Means ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit  till  eight  minutes  after Eleven  of  the 
clock, adjourned till  to-morrow. 

VOL.  164. 

Mr.  Russell  Rea  reported  from  the  Com- Railway  Bills 

mittee  on  Group  1 of  Railway  Bills  ,* That, for (Group i.) 
the  convenience  of  parties, the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Tuesday  next,  at  half  an  hour 
after Eleven of  the  clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Ellis reported from the Select Committee  Standing 
on  Standing  Orders several Resolutions  ;  which Orders, 
were read,  as follow : 

That  in the case of the Torquay and Paignton  Torquay and 

Tramways  [Lords],  Petition  for Bill, the  Stand­
ing Orders ought to  be  dispensed with;  that the xEwfof8' 

 
11th—ISth 

March. 

1909. 

[No. 22. 

80 
parties  be  permitted  to proceed with  their  Bill 
on the  condition  that Tramway  No. 2 is omitted 
from  the Bill;  that  the  Committee  on  the Bill 
do report how far  such  Order is complied with. 
Kilkenny, 
That  in  the  case  of  the  Kilkenny,  Castle­
  A thy  Railway  Bill  the  Standing 
andAthT1"'
Railway  Bill.  Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed  with;  that  the 
parties  be permitted  to proceed  with  their Bill 
on the condition  that  Clauses  19, 64, 65, 66, 67, 
and  68 are  omitted from the Bill;  that the Com­
mittee  on the Bill  do report  how far  such Order 
has been complied with. 

'
c o m e r    a nd

Midland  Great  That  in  the  case  of  the  Midland  Great 
Railway  of  Western  Railway  of  Ireland  Bill  the  Standing 
Ireland  Bill.  Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed  with  ;  that  the 
parties  be permitted  to  proceed with  their  Bill 
on the  condition  that Clause  66 is omitted  from 
the  Bill;  that  the  Committee  on  the  Bill  do 
report  how  far  such  Order  has  been  complied 
with. 

Sligo  and 
Raifway  Bill 

31 

London 

SnppTyBill 

E a i l w a  y 

That  in  the  case  of  the  Sligo  and  Arigna 
the  Standing  Orders  ought  to  be 
'  dispensed  with  ;  that  the  parties  be  permitted 
to  proceed with  their Bill  on  the condition  that 
Clauses 40  and 41  are  omitted  from  the  Bill; 
that  the Committee  on  the Bill  do  report  how 
far such  Order has been complied  with. 

That  in  the  case  of  the  Loudon  Electric 

SuPPty  Bill  the  Standing  Orders  ought  to  be 
dispensed  with;  that  the Bill  be  permitted  to 
proceed. 

The  said  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second 

time, were agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

t be  S e l e ct

The  House  was moved, That  the Report from 
Kilkenny, 
.SdtAthmer'
  Committee  on  Standing  Orders  in 
Railway  Bill,  respect  of  the  Kilkenny,  Castlecomer,  and 
Athy Railway Bill might  be read ;  and the same 
being  read; 

Mr.  Cooper, supported  by  Sir  Walter Foster,  Medical  Acts 
Sir  William  Collins,  Sir John,  Benn, Mr. Acland Amendment 
Allen,  Mr. Barnes,  Mr.  Vickerman Rutherford, 
Mr.  Bertram  Straus,  and  Mr.  Carr-Gomm,
presented  a Bill  to  regulate  the  administration 
of  anesthetics,  to  make  regulations  relative 
thereto,  and  to  amend the Medical  Acts :  And 
the same was ordered  to  be  read  a  second time 
Upon  Wednesday  the  21st  day  of  April  next; 
and to be printed. 

^q

Mr.  Morton,  supported  by  Mr.  Weir,  Mr.  Sea  Fisheries 

Smeaton, Mr.  Lamont,  Mr.  Cathcart  Wason, 
Mr. John Deans  Hope, Mr. Ramsay  Macdonald, g^j 
Mr.  Sutherland,  and  Mr.  Watt, presented  a Bill 
to  provide  for the  suppression  of  illegal  Fishing 
by  trawl  vessels :  And  the same was ordered  to 
be read a second  time  upon  Tuesday  next;  and 
to be printed. 

' 

JJJJJ  \21. 

Sir  George  Kehewich,  supported  by  Mr.  Prohibition  of 
Atherley-Jones, Mr.  Cameron,  Mr. Everett,  Mr. Vivisection 
Charles  O'Doimell,  Colonel  Sandys,  and  Mr.  ^J,'.,, 
Snowden,  presented  a  Bill  to  prohibit  experi-
1 
ments  on  living  Animals:  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be read a second time  upon  Wednes­
day next;  and to be  printed. 

Mr.  Kettle,  supported  by  the  Marquess  of  Under 
Hamilton, Mr.  Nannetti,  Mr.  Augustine Roche,  Sheriffs 
Mr.  Joyce,  Mr.  Sloan,  Mr.  Power,  and  Mr. Roughs) 
Mooney,  presented  a  Bill  to  make  further (Ireland)  Bill, 
provision  for  the  appointment  and  tenure  of  Bill 123. 
office of  Under  Sheriff in administrative  county 
boroughs  in  Ireland  : And  the same was Ordered 
to  be read  a  second  time  upon  Monday  next; 
and to be printed. 

Ordered, That the other  Government  Business  Business of 

have  precedence^  this  day  of  the  Business  of 
Supply.—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be read a second time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Con-  Business  o f 

Midland  Great  The House was moved, That the Report from 
Railway  of 
t b  e  Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders  in 
Ireland  Bill,  respect of  the Midland  Great  Western  Railway 
of  Ireland  Bill  might  be  read;  and  the  same 
being read ; 

solidated  Fund  (No.  2)  Bill  be  not interrupted  ^®a
o u se 
to-morrow  at  Five  of  the  clock,  nor  half-past sitting) 
Five  of  the  clock,  and  may  be  entered  upon 
at  any  hour,  though  opposed. —  (The  Prime 
Minister.) 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be read  a second time. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Consolidated 

Sligo  and 
Arigna 
R  ilw  Bill

® el e ct

The House  was moved,  That the Report from 
  Committee  on  Standing  Orders  in 
respect  of  the  Sligo  and Arigna  Railway  Bill 
might be read ;  and the same being  read; 

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time. 

Message from  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
the  Lords.  Message had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by 

one of  their Clerks,  as followeth: 

The  Lords  have  passed  a Bill,  intituled  An 
Westminster 
City  Council  Act  to  provide  for  the  granting  of  superan­
(Super­
annuation, 
&c.)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

nuation  allowances  to  the officers  and  pensions 
to the servants of  the Metropolitan Borough and 
City of  Westminster, and for other  purposes;  to 
which the Lords  desire  the concurrence  of  this 
House. 

The Lords communicate Minutes of  Evidence 
Torrens' 
Divorce  Bill  and Proceedings taken upon the Second Reading 
[.Lords.] 
of  Torrens'  Divorce  Bill  [Lords],  together with 
the Documents deposited  in the case,  as  desired 
by  this  House,  with  a  request  that  the  same 
may be returned. 

Westminster 
City  Council 
(Super­
annuation, 
&c.)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Westminster  City  Council  (Superannua-

tion, &c.) Bill  [Lords'] was read the first time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

(No- 2> 

Second  Reading  of  the  Consolidated  Fund 
(No.  2)  Bill; 

And  a Motion  being made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

And  it  being a quarter of  an hour after  Eight 
of the clock,  and  there  being  Private  Business 
set down by  direction  of  the  Chairman  of  Ways 
and Means under  Standing  Order  No.  8, further 
proceeding was postponed  without  Question  put. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Great 

Second  Reading  of  the  Great  Northern, Great 
Central, and  Great  Eastern  Railways Bill  ; 

and^reat 

' 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Wednesday  next,  at  a  quarter of  an hour Bill.Way 
after Eight of the clock. 

A  Motion  was  made, and  the  Question  was  London 
proposed,  That  it be  an Instruction  to the  Com- ^ounty
mittee  on  the London  County  Council  (General (<>™eral 
Powers) Bill to omit Subsection 32 of Clause 30—  Powers)  Bill. 
(Sir Frederick Banbury)  —And  the said  Motion 
was, with leave of  the House,  withdrawn. 

A  Motion  was  made,  and  the  Question was  


proposed,  That it be an Instruction  to the  Com­
mittee  on  the  Bill  to  omit  Subsection  1  of  


 
No. 28.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

25th March. 

81 

Clause  35— (Mr.  Remnant):  — And  the  said 
Motion  was,  with  leave  of  the  House,  with­
drawn. 

The  postponed  proceeding  on  the  Question, 
Consolidated 
Fund  (No.   2)  That the Consolidated Fund  (No. 2) Bill be now 
Bill. 

read a second  time, was resumed. 
And  the  Question  being  put; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be now read a second 
time:—The  Bill  was  accordingly read  a  second 
time,  and  committed  to  a  Committee  of  the 
whole House for to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Justices  of  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Justices  of  the  Peace Peace  Bin 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Payment of 

Second  Reading of  the  Payment of Rates Bill;   Rate3 Ein-

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Road Traffic 

Army 
(Annual) Bill.  Order, read a second time. 

The  Army  (Annual)  Bill  was,  according  to 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Monday 
next.—(Mr.  Secretary Haldane.) 

Board  of 
Trade 
[Salary.] 

Mr.Joseph Pease reported from the  Committee 
on  Board  of  Trade  [Salary]  a  Resolution; 
which  was read,  as followeth : 

That  it  is  expedient  to  authorise  an increase 
in the  salary of  the  President  of  the Board  of 
Trade,  to  be  paid  out  of  moneys  provided  by 
Parliament. 

The  said  Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time, was agreed to. 

Second  Reading  of  the Road  Traffic Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public  Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  (Pro- (0Prrd°e rJio^11 
visional  Orders)  Bill; 

v

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  cheap Trains 

Second  Reading  of the Cheap Trains Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Franchise  and 

Ordered,  That  a  Bill  be brought  in  upon the 
said Resolution :  And  that the  Prime  Minister, 
Mr. Joseph Pease, and Mr.  Hobhouse  do  prepare  Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a  second time Bl11, 
and bring it in. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Franchise and  Removal 
of  Women's  Disabilities  Bill; 

upon Monday the 5th day of April  next. 

Disabilities 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

B i ll  1 2 4. 

Mr. Joseph Pease accordingly  presented  a  Bill 
to  remove  the  statutory 
limitation  on  the 
salary of  the  President  of  the  Board  of  Trade : 
And  the  same  was  read  the  first  time,  and 
ordered  to  be  read a second time upon  Monday 
next;  and to be  printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Registration 

Second  Reading  of  the  Registration  of  Clubs 
(Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon Friday  the 2 nd day  of  April  next. 

^ 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses of  Parliament 
Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Handioom 
Second  Reading  of  the  Handloom  Weaving  Weaving  Bill, 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be  read a second  time 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

upon  Friday the 2nd day of April  next. 

Secretary  of 
the  Board  of 

The  Order  of  the  day • being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of the  Board 
of Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Outdoor  Relief 

Second Reading  of  the Outdoor  Relief  F r i e n d ly 
Societies  (Scotland)  Bill; 

(Scotland) 

BlH-

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time Bil1­

upon Monday  next. 

upon Tuesday  the 20th day  of  April  next. 

Trade  Boards
BlU-

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of the  Trade  Boards  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Remission  of 
Second  Reading of  the Remission  of  Surcharges  ^^arges 
(Dublin)  Bill; 

•   (Duhhn)  Bdl. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Wednesday  next. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply; 

Resolved,  That this House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

Supply 
[22nd  March] 
Report 
(Deferred 
Resolution.) 

The  Order  of  the day being  read,  for  taking 
into consideration  the  Sixth of  the  Resolutions 
which, upon the 23rd day  of  this  instant  March, 
were reported  from the  Committee of  Supply  of 
the 22nd day  of  this instant March ; 

Ordered, That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

into further consideration  upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Death 

Second  Reading  of  the  Death  Certificates ?®[tificat®® .„ 
(Charges)  Bill; 
(Charges)  Bm. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Open  Spaces 
Second Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland) (Scotland) 
Bill; 

BlU" 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee of  Ways  and Means ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pedlars  Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-  Amendment 
ment Bill; 

B,1L 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

M 

 
 
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18th—19th  March. 

1909. 

[No. 23. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant  Children  Act,  


Second Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools  to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—  1  08'  


Irish  National 
Schools 
(Heating  and  (Heating  and Cleansing)  Bill ; 
Cleansing) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Sale of 
Margarine 
B i l! 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of the Sale of  Margarine  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Army 
(Annual) 
[Compen­
sation.] 	

A  Motion  being  made, That this House  will, 
to-morrow,	  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to 
consider  of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of 
money  voted  by  Parliament for  Army  Services, 
of  compensation  for  damage caused  by  billeting 
under  any Act  of  the  present  Session  to  pro­
vide  during  twelve  months  for  the  discipline 
and  regulation  of  the  Army—(Mr.  Secretary 
llaldane) ; 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,  acquainted  the  House  that  His 
Majesty, having  been  informed  of  the  subject-
matter  of  this  Motion,  recommends  it  to  the 
consideration  of the House. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

And  it being  after  half-past Eleven  of  the 
clock,  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  adjourned 
the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant to  the Standing Order, it being then 
twelve  minutes  before  Twelve  of  the 
clock, till to-morrow. 

[No.  29.] 

Friday,  26th March  1909. 
The  House met  at Twelve  of  the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

r p H  E  Thames  Tunnel  (North  and  South 
Thames 	
Tunnel  (North  JL  Woolwich)  Bill  was  read  the  third  time 
and  South
Woolwich)
Bin-

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 

and passed. 

, 

,

the Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

Conway  Gas 
Bill. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take into considera­
tion  the  Conway  Gas  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Great, Western

Bailway

Ordered,  That  the  Great  Western  Railway 
(General  Powers)  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

Powers) Bill,

  upon  Monday  next. 

Public. 
Petitions. 
'Vide  First 
'Report. 
Evicted 
"Tenants 
(Ireland) 
Act,  1907. 

Several  Public  Petitions were presented, and 

read  ;  and ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command, — Copy  of  Return,  pursuant  to  the 
Evicted  Tenants  (Ireland)  Act,  1907,  giving 
particulars  of  cases  in  which persons have been 
reinstated  with  the  assistance  of  the  Estates 
Commissioners  during  the  quarter  ended  31st 
December  1908. 

CoJ>y  of  Recommendations  of  the  Secretary  of  

State  for	  the  Home  Department  under  the 
Children  Act,  1908, as to  Parliamentary  Grants 
to certified Day  Industrial  Schools. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Court of 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament, —  A n n u al   Probate 
Account  of  Receipts and  Disbursements of  the (H,gh  court 
Court  of  Probate  Division  of  the .High  Court  of  Justice) 
of  Justice  in  Ireland  for  the  year  ended  31st  (Ireland.) 
December  1908. 

Ordered,  That the  said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Mooney reported  from the Committee  on Private  Bills 

Group  A  of  Private  Bills;  That  the  parties  (Group  A.) 
promoting  the  West  Gloucestershire  Water  Bill  ^  ^ 
ter. 
had  stated  that  the  evidence  of  Mr.  Joseph shire ^ater 
Hodges, of  Brentry  Nursery  Gardens, Brentry,  Bill, 
was  essential  to  their  case ;  and  it having been 
proved  that  his  attendance  could  not  be  pro­
cured  without  the intervention  of  the  House, he 
had  been  instructed  to  move  that  the  said 
Joseph  Hodges  do attend the said  Committee  on 
Tuesday  next, at half-past  Eleven  of  the clock. 

Ordered, That  Joseph  Hodges  do  attend the 
Committee  on  Group  A  of  Private  Bills  on 
Tuesday  next, at half-past  Eleven of the  clock. 

Mr.  Mooney reported  from the  Committee  on  Private  Bills 

Group  A  of  Private  Bills;  That,  for  the  con- (Group   A ) 
venience of parties, the Committee had adjourned 
till  Tuesday  next,  at  half-past  Eleven  of  the 
clock. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sweated 

Second  Reading  of  the  Sweated  Industries Industries Bill 
Bill; 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
"  That"  to  the end of  the Question, and adding 
the words "  it is inexpedient  to proceed with the 
Second  Reading  of the  Bill, in view  of the intro­
duction  by  the  Government  of a Bill  providing 
for  the  establishment  of  Trade  Boards "—(Mr. 
Carlile),—instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words  proposed  to  be  left out stand part of the 
Question :—And  a Debate  arising thereupon  ; 

And  a  Motion  being made, and  the  Question  

being  put, That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned  

—(Mr.  Tennant) : — It  was  resolved  in  the  

Affirmative. 


Ordered, That  the  Debate  be resumed upon  


Monday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sunday 

Treaty  Series 
(No,  8,  1909.) 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Second  Reading  of the  Sunday  Closing  (Wales) 
Act  (1881)  Amendment Bill;	  

ActVlSSI) 
And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question  Amendment 

Secretary  Sir Edward Grey  presented, by His  being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  International  second  time ;  And  a Debate  arising thereupon  ; 
Radiotelegraphic Convention.  Signed at Berlin, 
(British  Ratification 
3rd  November  1906. 
deposited  at Berlin, 30th June  1908.) 

And  it  being  Five  of  the clock,  the  Debate 

stood adjourned. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be  resumed  upon 

Table. 

Friday  the  '23rd day of April  next. 

 
 
No. 29.]  9 EDW. VII. 

26th—29th  March. 

8 3 


Shops  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the  Shops  Bill; 

Question  proposed,  That those  words be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Wednesday  next. 

Clause  agreed  to. 
Clause  No. 4  agreed  to. 
Bill  to be reported. 

National 
Military 
Training  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the  National  Military Train­
ing  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  gone  through  the  Bill,  and 
directed  him to report the same, without Amend­
ment. 

Bastardy  Bill. 

The  Bastardy  Bill  was,  according  to  Order, 
read a second time, and committed to  a Standing 
Committee. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read the third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Houses of 

Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament 

- — 

-

-

Municipal 
Elections Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of the Municipal Elections Bill; 
Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Second  ~ 
Bill: 

upon  Monday next. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Trade 
Disputes Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Trade Disputes  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Army 
Committee  on Army  (Annual)  [Compensation] ; (.Annual)^ 
Resolved,  That this  H ouse  will,  upon  Monday  Ration.] 

next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Licensing 
J ustices  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the Licensing  Justices  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read  a second time 

upon  Monday  the 5th day of April  next. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial 
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read  a  second time 

upon Monday  next. 

Police  Super­
annuation 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Tieading  of  the  Police  Superannuation 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Cheap  Trains 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the  Cheap  Trains  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Irish  National
Schools

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating  and Cleansing)  Bill  ; 

Bill.

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be read  a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

Consolidated 
Fund  (No,   2) 
Bill. 

The House, according  to Order, resolved  itself 
into  a  Committee  on  the  Consolidated  Fund 
(No.  2)  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses No.  1 and  No.  2 agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  3  (Power  for  the  Treasury  to 

borrow). 

Amendment proposed,  in p. 2,1.  6,  at the end, 
to  insert  the  words  "  and  the  Treasury  shall 
repay  the moneys so borrowed, with interest not 
exceeding five per centum  per annum, out of  the 
growing  produce  of  the  Consolidated  Fund  at a 
period not later than the next succeeding  quarter 
to that in which the said moneys were borrowed." 
—(Mr. Bowles.) 
VOL.  164. 

Sir  William Brampton Gurdon  reported from  selection 
the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had  (Standing 
discharged  the  following  Member  from  Stand- ^ ^ j f  5 8  0 
ing  Committee  B  :—Mr.  Churchill;  and  had  committee  B. 
appointed  in substitution :  Mr.  Herbert  Samuel. 
• Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 
Table. 

Sir  Francis  Layland-Barratt  reported  from jj00ai 
the Local  Legislation  Committee;  That  in  the  Legislation 
case  of  the  Mountain  Ash  Urban  District ^ouSataAsh 
Council  Bill  they  had  examined  the  allegations  (jrban  District, 
contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and  Council  BiiL 
amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent 
with the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as  passed by the 
Committee,  and  found  the  same,  as  amended, 
to  be true;  and had  gone  through  the  Bill  and 
made Amendments  thereunto. 

, 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table ;  and be  printed.  


Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant  

to  Standing  Order  No.  3,  it  being then 

fourteen  minutes after Five  of  the  clock,  

till  Monday  next.  


[No.  30.] 

Monday, 29th  March 1909. 

The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 

before  Three of  the  clock.  


P  E A T E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private  Bills 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions [Lords] 

for  Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the  ^ ^ f  t 
following  Bills,  originating  in  the  Lords,  and  previously 
referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof,  the  inquired  into 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into, 
and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have  been 
complied  with, viz. :— 

Anglo-Argentine  Tramways  Company  Bill 

\_Lords~\. 

London,  Chatham, and Dover  Railway  Bill 

[Lords]. 


Ordered, That the  Bills  be read a second  time.  


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84 

11th—ISth 

March. 
of  State  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
hours of closing for certain classes of  Shops. 

1909. 

[No. 22. 

Private  Bills 
(Standing 
Orders not 
previously 
inquired  into 
not  complied 
with.") 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upjn  the  Table,—Report 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills, That  in the case  of  the  following 
Bill, referred  on the  First  Reading  thereof, the 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into, 
and which  are applicable  thereto, have  not been 
complied  with, viz. :— 

Crystal Palace  Company  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Report  be  referred  to  the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing;  Orders. 

Littlehampton
Gas Bill.

The  Littlehampton  Gas  Bill  was  read  the 

third time and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire  their concurrence. 

"Eastbourne 
Gas  Bill. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take into  considera­
tion the Eastbourne  Gas Bill, as amended  in the 
Committee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read the third time. 

Edgware  and
Hampstead
Railway  Bill. 

Holywood 
Tramways 
Bill. 

The  Edgware  and  Hampstead  Railway  Bill 

w a  s  read a second time, and committed. 

The  Holywood  Tramways  Bill  was  read  a 

second time, and committed. 

Waterford
Harbour  Bill.

The  Waterford  Harbour Bill  was, according 

  t o  Order, read a second  time, and  committed. 

Great Western
Railway
Powers)  Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Great Western  Railway 
(General  Powers)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon  Tuesday  the 20th  day of April  next. 

Land 
Drainage 
Provisional 
Order 
(No.  2)  Bill. 
Bill  125. 

Land 
Drainage 
Provisional 
Order 
(No.  3)  Bill. 
Bill  126. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 
Children  Act, 
1908. 

N o.  83. 

Lunatic 
Asylums 
(Escapc  of 
Patients at 
Epsom.) 

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented  a  Bill  to 
confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Land 
Drainage Act,  1861, in the matter of a proposed 
drainage  district  in  the Parishes of  Westbury, 
Minsterley,  and  Pontesbury,  in  the  County  of 
Salop :  And the same  was read the first time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be printed. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented  a  Bill  to 
confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Land 
Drainage  Act,  1861,  in the matter of  a proposed 
drainage  district  in  the Parishes  of  Haxey  and 
Owston,  in  the  County  of  Lincoln:  And  the 
same was read the first time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be printed. 

Several Public  Petitions were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon  the  Table. 

Ordered, That  the  Paper  relative  to  the 
Children  Act,  1908, which  was  presented  upon 
the  26th day of  this instant  March,  be printed. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  to  the 
Secretary of State for the  Home Department  by 
the  Commissioners  in  Lunacy  of  their  Inquiry 
respecting  escapes  of  Patients  from  London 
County  Council  Asylums  situated  upon  the 
Horton  Estate  at Epsom. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur­
suant to  the directions of  an Act  of  Parliament, 
—Copy  of  Order  under  the  Shop  Hours  Act, 
1904, made  by  the  Council  of  the  Borough  of 
Southend-on-Sea, and confirmed by the Secretary 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the Public 
Resolution  of  the  House of the 4th  March  1879,  Accounts 
- C o py   of  Treasury  Minute, dated  23rd  March 
1909,  authorising  the  temporary  application  of 
surpluses  on  certain  Navy  Votes  for  the  year 
1908-9  to  meet  excesses  on  other  Navy  Votes 
for the same year. 

v°tes") 

Ordered,  That the said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Mr. Birrell  presented,—Return  to  an  Order,  Labourers 
dated  the  14th  day  of  December  in  the  last  (Ireland)  Acts. 
Session  of  Parliament,  for  a  Return  showing 
the  number  of  Appeals  under  the  Labourers 
(Ireland)  Acts  to  the County  Courts since the 
1st  day  of  November  1906,  and  setting  forth 
the  same 
in  respect  to  each  rural  district 
affected, the number  of  cottages  and plots  being 
the  subject-matter  of  such  Appeals,  how  many 
were  approved,  and  how  many  disallowed  on  

appeal. 


Ordered,  That the said Return do lie  upon the  


Table. 


Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Trade  Reports 

His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  l^""?1 
and Consular Reports,  Annual  Series, No. 4186. 

3" 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That there be laid before this House  Housing, 

Town 
a  Return  of  explanation  of  references  to ~ 
Planning,  &c. 
Statutes  in  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, &c. Bill. 
Bill.—(Mr.  Burns.) 

No. 85. 

Mr.  Burns  accordingly  presented  the  said 

Return. 

Ordered,  That the said Return do lie  upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Rose  reported  from  the  Committee  on  Northallerton 

the  Northallerton  Water Bill;  That with respect W a t  e r  Bill, 
to  the  Instruction  of  the  House  of  the  19th 
March, evidence  was laid before  the  Committee 
that  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  were  adequate 
for  the  supply  of  water  at  reasonable  rates  to 
the  agricultural  community  within  the  area  of 
supply, and to  any person or persons from whom 
any  existing  or  natural  supply  is  or  may  be 
withdrawn  owing  to  the  works  or undertaking 
authorised  by  the  Act. 

Mr.  Rose  further  reported  from  the  Com­
mittee ;  That they  had examined the  allegations 
contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and 
found the same to be true; and had gone through 
the  Bill  and made Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon  Remission  of 

Wednesday  next,  the  Remission of  Surcharges 
(Dublin)  Bill was read, and  discharged. 

( D u b l m)  B,u -

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  the 21st day  of  April  next. 

Sir  Henry  Cotton, supported  by  Sir  William  Fire  Inquests 

Holland, Mr.  Yoxall, Mr. Richardson,  Mr. Leh- BiU-_ 
maun, and  Mr.  Starkey,  presented  a  Bill  to 
provide for the holding  of  Fire  Inquests  :  And 
the same  was ordered  to  be  read  a  second time 
upon  Friday  the 23rd day of April  next;  and to 
be printed. 

12~' 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
tfo.  3 0]  9  EDW.  VII. 
Naval  Policy. 

29th  March. 

85 

A  Motion  was made,  and  the  Question  being 
put,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House,  the 
declared  policy  of  His  Majesty's  Goyernment 
respecting the immediate provision  of  battleships 
of  the  newest  type  does  not  sufficiently secure 
the  safety of  the empire—(Mr.  Arthur Lee) ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers for  th J S ir  ^ e W e  r  Acland­ 1
.Hood>
J 
1 - 3 5 3, 

1
(Viscount  Valentia: 
Tellers for thej Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas 
' 

Noes, 

1 Master of  Elibank : 


135. 

So  it passed  in the  Negative.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Board of 
Second  Reading  of  the Board of Trade  B i l l  T r a d  e  BiU-

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 

Second Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

and  Fisheries 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time BlU­

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  heing  read,  for  the  Trade  Boards 

Second  Reading  of  the Trade  Boards  Bill  ;

Bil1­

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Consolidated 
Fund  (No.   2) 
Bill. 

The  Consolidated  Fund  (No.  2)  Bill  was, 
according  to  Order,  read  the  third  time  and 
passed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Supply. 

Committee of  Supply  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

Ordered,  That,  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

the Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for taking  Supply 

Irish  Land 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Irish Land  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Indian 
Councils  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Indian  Councils  Bill 
\_Lords~\  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Customs  and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Buildings  and
Engineering
Works  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

  Second  Reading  of  the Buildings  and Engineer­

ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be  read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

into consideration the  Sixth  of  the  Resolutions  [ 2 2 n  d  March] 
which,  upon the  23rd day of this instant March, (Deferred 
were reported  from the Committee  of  Supply  of  Resolution.) 
the 22nd day  of this instant  March; 

Ordered, That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

into further consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  t he  Ways  and 

Committee  of  Ways  and Means ; 

Means, 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament 
Bill;  

BU1" 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Army 
Committee  on Army  (Annual)  [Compensation];  (Annual) 
Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,  sation.] 

resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cruelty  to 
Second  Reading  of  the  Cruelty  to  Animals  Animals  Bill. 
Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  the  6th day  of  April  next. 

Places  of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Trawling  in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
(Prevention) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Trawling  in  Prohibited 
Areas (Prevention)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  clerks  of the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Clerks  of  the Peace  and  Peace  and 
County  Councils  Bill; 

_  & 
Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

Bill. 

upon Tuesday  the  6th day of  April  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Asylums 
Second  Reading of the Asylums  Officers' Super- Officers' 

B  . i i  0
. .  
annuation JtJill;

upon  Thursday  next. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second time 

r

Superannua­
tion  Bill. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan­
ning, &c.  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Voters 

Second  Reading  of  the  Voters  (Qualification  (Qualification 
and Registration)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second time 

upon  Tuesday  the 6 th day  of  April  next. 

to-morrow. 

Army 
(Annual)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the Army  ( Annual)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Sir R. 

Second Reading of  Sir R,  Whittington's Charity  Whittington's 
g i l l  . 

Charity  Bill. 

& 

Resolved,  That this  House  will, upon  Monday 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a  Second time 

next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

upon Thursday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

M  3 

 
 
 
 
86 

29 th—30 th March. 

1909.  [No.. 30. 


Bridgend 
(Hope 
English 
Baptist 
Chapel,  &c.) 
Charity  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of the Bridgend  ( Hope  English 
Baptist  Chapel, &c.)  Charity  Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming  Sweated 
the adjourned  Debate  on the Amendment  which, Mustnes 
upon  the  26th  day  of  this instant  March, was 
proposed  to  be made  to  the  Question,  That  the 
Sweated  Industries  Bill  be  now read  a  second 
time ; 

John 
Marshall's 
Charity  Bill.  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  Charity 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be read a  second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Lichfield 
Con Le nftional  S e c o n  d  Beading  of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon 
Chapels and  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust Property  Charity  Bill; 
Chanty  Bi i. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Ordered,  That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Tuesday  the  6th day  of April  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Municipal 
Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Elections  Elections  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

upon  Tuesday  the  6th day  of  April  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial  Industrial 
Tools  Bill; 
ToolsBilL 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 

Dewsbury 
and  Batiey 
Chapelgati°nal Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill  ; 
Charities Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish 
Second  Reading of  the  Irish  National  Schools  National 
(Heating  and  Cleansing)  Bill; 

(Heating  and 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a  second time  Cleansing) 

Bill, 

' 
to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Wortley 
Ch^elgatl°nal  S e c o n  d  Beading  of the  Wortley  Congregational 
Chanty Bin.  Chapel Charity  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sale of 
Second  Reading of  the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill;  Margarine 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Territorial 
Army  Ballot  Second  Reading  of  the  Territorial  Army  Ballot 
Bill. 

Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

And  then  the  House,  having continued  to  

sit  till  twelve  minutes  after  Eleven  of  

the clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow.  


Law  Agents 
(Scotland) 
Act 
Amendment 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Law  Agents  (Scotland) 
Act  Amendment  Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

STANDING  COMMITTEES, 

Distribution by Mr. Speaker, pursuant to  Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
Trustees' 
Accounts  Bill.  i n t  o  consideration  the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill, 

Name  of  Bill. 

as amended in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Bastardy  Bill 

-

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Wednesday  next. 

Standing 
Committee. 

C. 

Under  Sheriffs  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(County 
Second  Reading  of  the  Under  Sheriffs (County 
(Ireland)  Bill,  Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Public  Health 
(Provisional  Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  (Pro-
Orders)  Bill.  visional  Orders)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Open  Spaces 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland) 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Pedlars  Acts 
Amendment  Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-
Bill. 

ment  Bill; 

[No.  31.] 

Tuesday, 30th March  1909. 

The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three  of the  clock. 


P R A Y E R S. 

THE  Conway Gas Bill was read the third time  Conway  Gas 

and passed. 

BlU< 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill to 

the Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

Ordered,  That  the  Kilkenny,  Castlecomer,  Kilkenny, 
and Athy  Railway  Bill  be  read'  a  second  time ^ t^ c° m e r> 
to-morrow. 
RailwayJJill. 

The  Midland  Great  Western  Railway  of  Midland  Great 

Ireland  Bill  was  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed. 

o£ 

Ireland  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

The  Sligo  and Arigna  Railway  Bill  was  read  Sligo  and 

to-morrow. 

a second time, and committed. 

Rafway  Bill 

No.  31.J  9  EDW.  V I I. 

30 th  March. 

London  and 
North  Western 
Railway  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  and  North 
Western  Railway  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon  Tuesday  the 20th day  of  April  next. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 

Army 
(Special 
Reserve.) 

Bast  India 
(Parlia­
mentary 
Papers.) 

Local 
Legislation 
Committee 
(Section  B.) 
Greenock 
Corporation 
Bill. 

,  Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 
read ;  and ordered  to lie  upon the  Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,  —  Copy  of  Statement 
showing  (1)  the  Strengths  of  the  extra  bat­
talions  of  the  Special  Reserve  on  1st  March 
(2)  the  differences  between  Strengths 
1909; 
and  Establishments;  (3)  the  number  of  Men 
under  twenty  years  of  age;  and (4)  the  num­
ber of  Men  whose  Service  expires  before  31st 
March  1910. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Resolved, That  an  humble  Address  be  pre­
sented  to His Majesty, that He will be graciously 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before this  House  a Return of the Annual  Lists 
and  General  Index  of  the Parliamentary Papers 
relating  to  the  East  Indies,  published  during 
the  years  1801  to  1907,  inclusive.  —  (Mr. 
Buchanan.) 

Mr.  Charles Nicholson  reported  from  the 
Local Legislation  Committee  (Section B );  That 
the  parties  opposing  the  Greenock  Corporation 
Bill  had  stated  that  the  evidence  of  Victor  A. 
Noel  Paton, Writer  to the Signet, was essential 
to their case;  and  it  having  been  proved  that 
his  attendance  could  not  be  procured  without 
the  intervention  of  the  House,  he  had  been 
instructed  to move  that  the said  Victor  A.  Noel 
Paton  do attend the  said  Committee  to-morrow, 
at half-past  Eleven  of  the  clock. 

Ordered,  That  Victor   A.  Noel  Paton  do 

attend  the  Local  Legislation  Committee  (Sec­
tion B)  to-morrow,  at  half-past  Eleven  of  the 
clock. 

Standing 
Committee  B. 
Oaths BiU. 

No-.  86. 

No.  86. 

Bill  128. 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing 
Committee  B,  to  whom  the  Oaths  Bill  was 
referred;  That they  had  gone  through  the  Bill 
and made Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Ordered, That the  Minutes  of  the Proceedings 

of  the Standing  Committee  be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee, be taken into  consideration 
upon Monday  next;  and be printed. 

New  Member 
sworn. 

Sir  Robert  Trotter  Hermon-Hodge,  Baronet, 
Member  for  the  Borough  of  Croydon,  was 
sworn. 

Message from 
the  Lords. 

Consolidated 
Fund  (No.   2) 
Bill. 

Wirral 
Railway 
(Extension  of 
Time)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
Message  had  been  brought  from the  Lords  by 
one of their  Clerks, as followeth  : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Consolidated 

Fund  (No. 2)  Bill,  without  any  Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An 
Act  to  revive  and  extend  the  powers  for the 
purchase of  land and the period  limited  for  the 
construction  and  completion  of  the  railway 
authorised  by  the  Wirral  Railway  Act, 1898*; 
to  extend the time for the sale  of  surplus lands, 
and  for  other  purposes;  to  which  the  Lords 
desire the concurrence  of this House. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Wirral  Railway  (Extension  of  Time)  Wirtel 

Bill  [ Lords']  was read the first time. 

L 

. 

Railway 

(Extension  of 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  Time)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Examiners of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon  Nationalisa-

Fridav the  16 th day of April next, the  National- 
isation  of  Railways  and  Canals  Bill was read,  canals  Bill, 
and discharged. 

g and 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  withdrawn. 

T he  O r d er  f or  reading  a  second  time,  upon  Sir.R. 

Thursday  next,  Sir  R.  Whittington's  Charity 
r>-n 
bill  was read, and  discharged. 

t  t 

i 

i 

i

c

Charity  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Thursday  the  22nd  day of  April  next. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon  Bridgend 
Thursday  next,  the  Bridgend  (Hope  E n g l i sh   ^ope^ 
Baptist  Chapel, &c.)  Charity  Bill  was read, and  Baptist 
discharged. 

Chapel,  &c.) 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill be read  a second  time Cliarity  Bil1' 

upon  Thursday  the  22nd day of  April  next. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon  John 

Thursday  next,  John  Marshall's  Charity  Bill ^rshallRam 
was read, and discharged. 

a n ty 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Thursday  the 22nd day  of  April  next. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second time, upon  Lichfield  and 

Thursday next, the  Lichfield and  Longdon  Con- Longdon 
gregational  Chapels and Trust Property Charity  c h a p e l  s  a n d  M 
Bill  was read, and discharged. 
Trust  Property 
Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time Gtiarity  Bl11' 

upon Thursday  the 22nd day of  April  next. 

The  Order  for  reading  a second  time,  upon  Dewsbury 

Thursday next,  the Dewsbury  and Batley  Con- ^ 
gregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill was read,  and  chapel 
discharged. 

Charities  Bill. 

nal 

O 

i.

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Thursday  the 22nd day  of  April  next. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time, upon wortley 

Thursday  next,  the  Wortley  Congregational  Congregational 
Chapel  Charity  Bill  was read, and discharged, 

charity  Bill 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Thursday  the 22nd  day of April  next. 

Sir  William  Brampton Gurdon reported  from  Selection 
the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had Committees) 
discharged  the  following  Member  from  Stand • standing00 
ing  Committee  B  :—Mr.  Herbert  Samuel;  and Committee  B, 
had appointed  in substitution  :  Mr.  Churchill. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr. Dickinson,  supported by Sir  William Bull,  Metropolitan 

Sir  William  Collins,  Mr.  Crooks,  Mr.Timothy 
Davies, Sir  George  Fardell, Mr. Hay,  Sir  Henry  gyj
Kimber,  Sir  Albert  Spicer, and  Mr.  Waterlow,
presented a Bill  to amend  the Metropolis  Man­
agement  Acts  with  respect  to  Sewers  and 
Drains:  And  the same was ordered  to  be read a 
second  time  upon  Monday  the 3rd  day of  May 
next  ;  and to be printed. 

Mr.  Cleland,  supported  by  Mr.  Scott Dickson,  Registration  of 

Mr.  Barnes,  Mr.  Esslemont,  Mr.  Younger, 
Captain  Murray,  Sir  Thomas Glen-Coats,  Mr.
Falconer, Mr. Dundas White,  Mr. Menzies,  and  Bill 130. 
Mr.  Gulland,  presented a  Bill  to  establish  and 
make  regulations  to  provide  for  a  register  of 
Nurses  in Scotland  :  And  the same wa3 ordered 
to  be read  a  second  time  upon  Monday  next; 
and to be printed. 

n

M  4 

 
 
11th—ISth 

March. 

1909. 

[No. 22. 

Town Tenants
BiU-

Bill  131.

88 	
  Mr.  Dickinson,  supported by Sir John  Barker,
Sir  John Benn,  Mr,  Buckmaster,  Mr.  Timothy
j)avieSs  Mr.  Gibb,  Mr.  Maclean,  Sir Charles 
McLaren, and  Mr.  Rowlands, presented  a  Bill 
to  improve  the  position  of  Tenants  of  certain 
houses,  shops,  and  other  buildings  in  Great 
Britain  :  And  the  same  was ordered  to be  read 
a second  time upon Monday  the 3rd day of  May 
next;  and to be printed. 

Cinematograph

  Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented  a  Bill  to 
make  better  provision  for  securing  safety  at 
Bill 132.  Cinematograph  and other Exhibitions:  And  the 
same was ordered  to be read a second time upon 
Thursday  next;  and to  be printed. 

usefully  employed  as  a  weapon  in  commercial 
negotiation—(Captain  Craig) ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made to 
the Question, in 1.1, by leaving out from the word 
"  House "  to the end of  the Question, and adding 
the  words  "without  seeking  to  limit  by  any 
declaration  its  entire  freedom  in  fiscal  matters, 
is  of  opinion  that  Great  Britain  has  secured, 
without recourse  for many  years  to  a  policy  of 
retaliation,  terms  of  entry into  the  markets  of 
protectionist  countries  at  least  as good  as those 
obtained  by  any  protectionist  state "  —  (Sir 
William  Holland),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  pat,  That the words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the 
Question; 

Mr.  James  Gibb,  supported  bv  Mr. Beale, Mr. 

Municipal 
Representation Burt,  M r.   Gulland,  M r.   Holt,  Sir  Henry 
  Kimber,  Mr.  Murray  Macdonald,  Mr.  John 
Bill  133
'

The  House divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
Robertson,  and  Mr.  Henry  Joseph  Wilson,  The  Noes to  the  Left.. 
presented a  Bill  to  authorise the introduction  of 
Proportional  Representation  in  Municipal  Elec­
tions, and for other purposes :  And  the same was 
ordered  to  be read a second  time upon  Monday 
the 3rd day of May  next;  and to  be printed. 

Tellers for the f Viscount  Valentia, 
I Mr. Henry Forster : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton : 

Noes, 

\ 
J 

70. 

2 2 7. 

Irish Land 

Bill. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Irish  Land  Bill; 

Boyai  Assent.

A  Message  was  delivered  by  Admiral  Sir 
Henry  Frederick  Stephenson,  Gentleman  Usher 
of the Black  Rod  : 

Mr.  Speaker, 

The  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commission, for  declaring  His  Royal 
Assent  to  several  Acts  agreed  upon  by  both 
Houses, desire the immediate  attendance  of  this 
Honourable  House  in  the  House  of'  Peers,  to 
hear the  Commission read. 

Accordingly  Mr.  Speaker,  with  the  House, 
'
  went  up  to  the  House  of  Peers: —And  being 

returned ; 

Irish Land 
Bill. 

Mr.  Speaker reported, That the  House, at the 
desire  of  the Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commission, had been at the  House of 
Peers, where a Commission under the Great Seal 
was  read,  giving,  declaring, and  notifying  the 
Royal  Assent to  the  several  Acts therein  men­
tioned ;  and  that  the  Lords  thereby  authorised 
had declared the  Royal  Assent to  the said  Acts, 
as follow : 

1.  Consolidated  Fund  (No. 2)  Act,  1909. 
2.	  Zetland  Masonic  Sick  and  Widows  and 
Orphans  Fund  Order  Confirmation  Act, 
1909. 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Irish  Land  Bill  be 
now read a second  time ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  six  months." —  (Mr. 
Campbell.) 

And  the  Question being  proposed,  That  the 

word  "  now "  stand part of  the  Question ; 

And  it being  a quarter  of  an hour after  Eight 
of  the clock, further  proceeding  was  postponed 
without  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing 
Order No. 4. 

Tarifis
(Retaliation.)

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being 
  proposed,  That  this  House,  while  recognising 
that  fiscal  retaliation  can  only  be  effectively 
applied  upon  the  basis  of  a  general  tariff, 
welcomes  the recent  declarations  of  the  Presi­
dent  of  the  Board  of  Trade  that  it  may  be 

So it passed in  the  Negative. 
And  the  Question  being  put,  That  those 
words  be  there added  :—It  was  resolved  in the 
Affirmative. 

And  the  Main  Question,  so  amended,  being 

put; 

Resolved,  That  this  House, without  seeking  to 
limit  by  any  declaration  its  entire  freedom  in 
fiscal matters,  is  of  opinion  that  Great  Britain 
has secured, without  recourse  for many years to 
a  policy  of  retaliation,  terms  of  entry  into  the 
markets  of  protectionist  countries  at  least  as 
good  as  those  obtained  by  any  protectionist 
state. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Vehicular 

Second Reading of  the Vehicular  Traffic  (Regu­
lation  of  Speed)  Bill; 

g ^ g  m  * 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Monday  the 24th day  of May  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Grocers' 
the  Grocers'  Licences Jj„i?e"5;'?s 

Second  Reading  of 
(Abolition)  Bill;  	

(Abolition) 
BUI. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  the  20th  day  of  April  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Education 

Second Reading  of  the Education  (England  and 
Wales)  Bill;	

V

Wales) BUI. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  the 20th day  of  April  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Fruit 
Second  Reading  of  the  Fruit  Growers  (Scot- ?c,roT,ereJs 
land)  Bill;  
(BS^tland) 

' 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Episcopal 
Second  Reading  of  the  Episcopal  Endowments Endowments 
Bill;  

BlU-

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Wednesday  the 7th day  of  April  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ecclesiastical 
Second  Reading  of  the  Ecclesiastical  Assess-  Assessments 
ments (Scotland)  Bill; 

BiU°   a " 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Rats 

Second  Reading  of the Rats (Destruction)  Bill;  (Destruction) 

 
 
 
 
No. 31.1  9  EDW.  VII. 

Sftth—Slst  March. 

89 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

upon Wednesday  the 7th day of  April  next. 

resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

Sea  Fisheries 
Regulation 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Sea  Fisheries  Regula­
tion  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Wednesday  the 7th day of  April  next. 

Road  Traffic 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of the Road  Traffic Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Death 
Certificates 
(Charges) Bill.  (Charges)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Death  Certificates 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  t he  Ways  and 

Committee  of  Ways  and Means  ; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament  Parliament 
Bill;  

B,U-

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved itself  Army 

into  a  Committee  on  Army  (Annual)  [Com­
pensation]. 

sation.] 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a Second time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Under  Sheriffs  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(County 
Second  Reading of  the  Under  Sheriffs (County 
(Ireland)^Bill. Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Pedlars  Acts 
Amendment  Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-
Bill. 

ment Bill; 

° 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow, 

Irish 
National 
Schools 
(Heating  and 
Cleansing) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating  and, Cleansing)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Sale of 
Margarine : 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Irish  Land 
Bill. 

The  postponed proceeding  on the Amendment 
proposed  to  the  Question,  That  the  Irish  Land 
Bill be now read a second  time, was  resumed. 

And  the Question  being  again proposed,  That 
the  word "  now "  stand part of  the  Question:— 
And  a Debate arising thereupon  ; 

And  it  being  after  Eleven  of  the clock, and 
objection  being  taken to further proceeding,  the 
Debate stood  adjourned. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Indian 
Councils  Bill  Second  Reading  of  the  Indian  Councils  Bill 
[lords. J 

[_Lords\  ; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
it is expedient  to  authorise the payment, out  of 
money voted  by  Parliament  for Army  Services, 
of compensation  for damage  and  other  expenses 
caused by billeting under any Act  of the present 
Session to provide during twelve months for  the 
discipline  and  regulation  of  the  Army.—(Mr. 
Secretary Haldane.) 

And  objection  being  taken  to  further  pro­
ceeding,  the  Chairman  left  the Chair  to  make 
his Report  to the  House. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy Chairman reported, That the Committee 
had  made  Progress 
in  the  matter  to  them 
referred  ;  and  that  he  was  directed  to  move, 
That  the  Committee  may  have  leave  to  sit 
again. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to  

sit till seventeen  minutes  after  Eleven  of  

the clock, adjourned  till  to-morrow.  


[No.  32.] 

Wednesday, 31«£ March  1909. 

The  House  met at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three of  the  clock.  


P R A Y E R S. 

THE  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Kilkenny, 

Second  Reading  of  the  Kilkenny,  Castle-

comer, and Athy  Railway  Bill; 

Railway  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Several  Public  Petitions were  presented,  and  Public 

read  •>  and ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

vide'second 

Report. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  &c.  ning, &c.  Bill; 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Housing, Town  Plan-

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Return  relative  to  the  Labourers 
Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts,  which  was  presented  (Ireland)  Acts, 
upon  the  29th  day  of  this  instant  March,  be  No. 87. 
printed. 

to-morrow. 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Board  of  Trade  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply; 

VOL.  164. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His  Board  of 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy of  Annual Reports,  Agriculture 
for" 1908,  of  the  Board  of  Agriculture  and 
Fisheries  of 
their  Proceedings  under  the 
Diseases  of  Animals  Acts,  the  Markets  and 
Fairs (Weighing  of  Cattle) Acts, &c. 

and  Fisheries 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

N 

90 	

11th—ISth 

March. 

1909. 

[No.  22. 

Mr.  Churchill presented, pursuant to the direc­
Companies 
(Consolida­
tions of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
tion)  Act s 
1908  (Kales.)  the  Companies (Winding-up)  Rules,  1909, dated 
No. 88. 	 29th  March  1909,  made  pursuant  to  the  Com­

panies 
Judicature  Act,  1881. 

(Consolidation)  Act,  1908,  and  the 

Ordered,  That the said  Paper do lie upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Poor  Laws  and  Mr,  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Appendix  to the 
Belief  of 
Distress 
Report  of  the  Royal  Commission  on  the  Poor 
(Royal 
Commission.)  Laws and Relief  of  Distress.  Vol.  XV. 

(Re­

Army. 

port  to  the  Royal  Commission,  by  Mr.  A.  C. 
Kay  and Mr.  H. V.  Toynbee,  on  Endowed  and 
Voluntary  Charities  in  certain  places,  and  the 
administrative  relations  of  Charity  and  the 
Poor  Law). 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's Command,—Copy  of  Return  showing 
(1)  the  Strength  and  estimated  Cost  of  the 
Regular  Army,  Reserve  of  Officers,  Army 
Reserve,  Special Reserve, and Territorial  Force 
on the  1st January  1909,  as  compared  with  the 
corresponding  Strength and Cost  on  1st  October 
1905;  (2)  estimated  Intake  and  Output-  of 
the  Army  Reserve  annually  during  the  years 
1909-15. 

Ordered,  That the  s a id  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

East  India 
(Parlia-
mentary 
Papers.) 

No. 89. 	

M r  .  Buchanan  presented,  — Return  to  an 
Address  to  His  Majesty, dated  the 30th day  of 
this instant March, for a Return relative to  East 
India (Parliamentary  Papers). 

Ordered,  That the said Return do lie  upon the 

Court of  Justice  in Ireland, and,  upon evidence  

satisfactory  to  the  Committee,  found  the  same  

and  the  other  allegations  to  be  true,  and  they  

saw no reason  to  suspect  collusion  between  the  

parties;  and  that  the  Committee  had  gone 
through  the Bill, and directed  him  to report  the  

same without  Amendment.  


Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time.  


Ordered,  That  the  Minutes  of  Evidence  and  Torrens'  

Proceedings  in  the  House  of  Lords  on  the  Divorce  Bill  

Second  Reading  of  Torrens'  Divorce  Bill  L^^-J  

[Lords],  together  with the Documents  deposited  

in the case,  be returned to the  House of  Lords : 

And  that  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  same.—(Mr.  

Attorney  General.)  


Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message  from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  bv 
" 
one of their  Clerks,  as followeth : 


• 

i	 

• 

the  Lords. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  United 

Act  to  incorporate  the  United  Kingdom  Tem- Kingdom 

Temperance 
perance  and  General  Provident  Institution, and and  General  

to provide for the management of its affairs, and Provident 

for  other  purposes;  to  which  the  Lords  desire Institution 
the concurrence  of this  House. 

Bill [Lords.]

Railway  Bill 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An London  and 
Act  to authorise the London  and  South Western South  "Western 
Railway Company to construct new and maintain [Lords.]
existing  works;  to  acquire  additional  lands and 
to  raise further  money,  and  to  provide  for  the 
transfer of  a portion  of  the  undertaking  of  the 
Plymouth  and Dartmoor  Railway  Company and 
the  undertaking-of  the  Stonehouse  Pool  Im­
provement  Company,  and  the  working  by  the 
(Light) 
Company  of  the  Lee-on-the-Solent 
Railway,  and for  other  purposes;  to  which  the 
Lords desire the concurrence  of  this  House. 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Countv  Court 
Rules." 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc-
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,  was  laid 
upon  the  Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House:— 
Copy  of  the  County  Court  Rules,  dated  28th 
March  1909. 

Sir  William Brampton Gurdon  reported from 
Selection 
(Standing 
the  Committee  of  Selection;  That  they  had 
Committees.) 
discharged  the  following  Member  from  Stand-
Standing 
Committee  A.  ing  Committee  A  (in  respect  of  the  Sale  of 
Sale of 
Intoxicating  Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill)  :—Sir 
Intoxicating 
Gilbert Parker ; and had appointed in substitution 
Liquors on 
(in  respect of  the said  Bill) :  Mr. James  Mason. 
Sunday  Bill. 
Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Public 
Petitions 
(First 
Report.) 

Mr.  Henry Joseph Wilson reported from  the 
Select  Committee  on  Public  Petitions;  That 
they  had examined the Petitions  presented upon 
the  17th,  18th,  19th,  23rd,  24th,  25th,  and 
26th  days  of  February  last,  and  the  2nd, 3rd, 
4th,  5th,  8tb,  9th,  10th, 11th,  12th,  15th,  16th, 
17th,  18th,  19th,  22nd,  23rd,  24th,  25th,  and 
26th days of this instant March, and directed him 
to make  a Report  thereof  to the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and  be printed. 

Mr.  Attorney  General  reported  from  the 
Ton-ens' 
Divorce Bill  Select  Committee  on  Divorce  Bills ;  That  they 
[Lords.] 
had examined the allegations of Torrens' Divorce 
Bill  [Lords'] as to  the  Marriage  of  the  parties, 
the  adultery  charged  as  the  grounds  for  dis­
solving the Marriage, the verdict  at Jaw, and the 
sentence  of  divorce,  a  mensd et  thoro, in  the! 
Probate  and  Matrimonial  Division  of  the  High 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An Lancashire 
Act for  enabling  the  Lancashire  and  Yorkshire and  Yorkshire 
Railway  Company  and the  North  Eastern  Rail- Eastern 
way  Company  to  construct  a  light  railway  in  Railways  Bill 
the West Riding  of  the County of  York,  and for 
other purposes;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence of  this  House. 

[Lords.]

and  North. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Liverpool 
Act for empowering  the  Corporation of the  City "Corporation 
of Liverpool  to  execute  street improvements ;  to  BiU 
construct tramways, and for  other  purposes;  to 
which the Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Malvern  Hills 
Act  for  conferring  further  powers  upon  the  Bill [Lords.]
Malvern  Hills  Conservators,  and  for  other 
purposes;  to-which  the  Lords  desire  the  con­
currence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Midland 
Act  to  confer  additional  powers  upon  the  Railway  Bill 
Midland  Railway  Company  for  the construction lLor",s.]
of  works  and  the  acquisition  of  lands,  and  for 
other purposes ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled An  cievedon 
Act  for  incorporating  and  conferring  powers  Water  Bill 
upon  the  Cievedon  Water  Company,  and  for L 
other purposes;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled An  South 

Act  to  confer further  powers  upon  the  South 
Lincolnshire  Water  Company,  and  for  other [Lords.]
purposes;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  con­
currence  of this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Heckmond-

Act  to authorise  the  Heckmondwike  Gas Com- ™.ike and 
pany  to  extend  their  gasworks;  to  construct o^Bai 

[Lords.] 



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certain footpaths ;  to raise additional  capital;  to 
convert  their  shares  into  stock;  to  change  the 
name of  the  Company,  and  for  other purposes ; 
to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of 
this  House. 

United 
K i D g d om 
Temperance. 
and  General 
Provident 
institution 
Bill [Lords.] 

The United Kingdom Temperance and General 
Provident  Institution  Bill  [Lords] was  read  the 
first time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  he  referred  to  the 

Examiners of Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

The  London  and  South  Western  Railway  Bill 

London and
South Western  [Lords]  was read the first time. 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords.]

L 

J 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Lancashire 
and Northhire
and North 
Eastern 
Railways Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Lancashire  and  Yorkshire  and  North 
  Eastern  Railways  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  the 
first time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Liverpool 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Liverpool  Corporation  Bill  [Lords] was 

read the first time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

Malvern  Hills
Bill [Lords.] first time. 

The  Malvern  Hills  Bill  [Lords] was read  the 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

Midland 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords. J 

The  Midland  Railway  Bill  [Lords]  was read 

the first time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills. 

Cievedon 
Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Clevedcn  Water  Bill  [Lords]  was  read 

the first time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of Petitions for Private  Bills. 

South
Lincolnshire
Water  Bill
[Lords.]

The  South  Lincolnshire  Water  Bill  [Lords] 

  w a  s  read the first time. 

T».U  i
Ordered,  lhat  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

Heckmond­
wike  and 
Liversedge Gas 
Bill  [Lords.]

The  Heckmondwike  and Liversedge  Gas  Bill 

[Lords]  was read  the first time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

Ecclesiastical 
Assessments 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon 
Monday  next,  the  Ecclesiastical  Assessments 
(Scotland)  Bill  was read, and  discharged. 

Sir  Thomas  Roe,  supported  by  Mr.  Godfrey Local 
Baring,  Mr.  Illingworth,  Mr.  William  Lever,  Authorities 
Mr.  Meld,  Sir  Herbert Roberts,  Sir Luke  White, 
Mr.  Harmood - Banner,  and  Mr.  Alfred  Scott, 
presented  a Bill  to  enable  Local  Authorities  to 
advertise  the attractions  and  advantages  of  their 
districts:  And  the  same was ordered  to  be read 
a second time upon Friday  the 30th day  of  April 
next;  and to be  printed. 

136 

[JJj«*faing)

Mr.  Williamson,  supported  by  Mr.  Ainsworth,  Foreign  


Mr.  Watson  Rutherford,  Mr.  Eugene  Wason,  

Major Anstruther-Gray,  Sir  Thomas  Glen-Coats,\JJ®  

Mr. Owen Philipps, Mr. Cathcart Wason, Captain  

Waring,  and  Mr.  Lamont, presented  a  Bill  to  

provide  for  the  better  prevention  of  fishing  by  

Foreign  Trawl  Vessels  within  areas  closed  to  i  

British  Trawl  Vessels :  And  the  same  was  

ordered to  be read  a second  time upon  Thursday  

the 22nd day of  April  next;  and to  be printed.  


Mr.  Williamson,  supported  by  Sir  Robert Absent Voters 

Ropner,  Major  Anstruther-Gray,  Mr.  Havelock  Bil1­
Wilson,  Mr.  Rainy,  Mr.  Lamont, Mr.  Ramsay  
Macdonald, and  Captain  Waring,  presented  a 
Bill  to  facilitate  the recording  of  votes  at  Par­
liamentary  Elections  by fishermen, sailors,  and 
other  persons  liable  to  habitual  absence  from 
their usual residence  in pursuit  of  their calling : 
And  the same was ordered  to  be  read  a second 
time  upon  Thursday  the  22nd  day  of  April 
next;  and to  be  printed. 

I 3 8­

Sir  William  Holland,  supported by  Sir Clifford  Mercantile 
Cory,  Sir  Henry  Kimber,  Mr.  Robert  Balfour, ^Com'T 3' 
and  Mr.  Holden, presented  a Bill, to confer  the (Municipal11168 
municipal  franchise  upon  Mercantile  Corpora-  Franchise) 
tions and Companies :  And  the same was ordered Bl11-. 
to  be read  a second  time upon Tuesday  the  27th  P'1* 
day  of April  next;  and  to be  printed. 

. 

Ordered,  That  leave  be  given  to  bring  in  a  Sunday  

Bill  to provide for  the closing  of  Shops and  the Closing  

prohibition  of  street  trading  on  Sunday :  And  ^  ops'-) 
that  Sir John Kennaway, Mr.  Talbot, Sir Albert 

Spicer,  Sir  John Barker,  Mr.  Cameron  Corbett,  

Mr.  Brigg, and Mr.  John  Ward  do  prepare  and  

bring  it in.  


Sir  John  Kennaway  accordingly  presented  a  Sunday 
Bill  to provide  for  the closing  of  Shops  and  the  Closing 
prohibition  of  street  trading  on  Sunday :  And 
the same was read the first time, and ordered  to 
be  read  a  second  time  upon  Wednesday  the 
21st day  of  April  next;  and  to  be  printed. 

BllL 

The House, according  to Order, resolved  itself  Army 
into  a  Committee  on  Army  (Annual)  fCom-   (Annual) 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

P o t i o n ].  

upon  Wednesday  the  21st day  of  April  next. 

(In  the  C° minittee.) 

= 

L ° t ZT 

Necessitous 
Mothers 
(Assistance) 
Bill. 

Bill  134. 

Mr.  Robert Harcourt,  supported by  Mr.  Pirie,
Mr.  Chiozza  Money,  and  Mr.  Barnes,  presented 
a  Bill  to  empower  Local  Authorities  to  make 
provision  for the assistance of  necessitous  women 
in contemplation  of,  and after, Childbirth :  And 
the same  was ordered  to be read  a  second  time 
upon  Monday  next;  and to  be printed. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed, That  it 
is  expedient  to  authorise  the  payment,  out  of 
money  voted  by  Parliament  for Army  Services, 
of  compensation  for damage  and  other  expenses 
caused  by billeting  under any  Act  of the present 
Session  to  provide  during  twelve  months for the 
discipline  and  regulation  of  the  Army.—(Mr. 
Secretary Haldane.) 

Sir  William  Anson,  supported  by  Mr.  Talbot, 
Plumage
(Prohibition  of  Mr.  Radford,  Mr.  Butcher,  Mr.  Lehmann,  and 
Sale or 
Mr.  Ramsay  Macdonald,  presented  a  Bill  to 
Exchange  of) 
prohibit  the  sale  or  exchange  of  the  Plumage 
Bill. 
and  Skins of  certain  wild  birds :  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Tuesday  the  11th  day  of  May  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

BUI  135. 

VOL.  164. 

Motion  made, and  Question,  That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain), — put,  and 
agreed  to. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported,  That 
the  Committee  had made Progress  in the  matter 
to  them referred;  and  that  he  was  directed  to 

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24th March. 

1909. 

[No.  27. 

move,  That  the  Committee  may have  leave  to 
sit again. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Nurses 

Second  Reading  of  the  Nurses  (Registration)  (Registration) 
Bill; 

BlU-

Ordered,  That  the Bill be read a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Irish  Land 
BiU- 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment  which, 
upon  the  30th  day  of  this  instant  March, was 
proposed  to  be  made  to  the  Question,  That the 
Irish Land  Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Which  Amendment was, to leave out the word 
"  now," and, at the end  of  the  Question,  to add 
the  words  "upon  this  day  six  months"—(Mr. 
Campbell) j 

And  the Question  being again  proposed, That 
the word "  now "  stand  part of  the  Question :— 
The  House resumed the said adjourned  Debate. 

And  the Question being  put;  

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to the  Right;  

The  Noes to the  Left. 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Master of  Elibank  : 

Tellers for the ("Lord  Balcarres,^ 

"1 
f 
' 
1,  102> 

Noes, 

(Lord  Edmund  Talbot  :  / 

So  it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
And the  Main  Question being  put; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be now read  a second 
time: —The  Bill  was accordingly  read  a second 
time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Monday 
next.—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Great  Northern,  Great 

Great 
Northern, 
anTGrCeeattra1,  Central, and  Great Eastern  Railways  Bill; 
And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
Eastern 
Railways  Bil).  b e i ng  p r o p o s e d>   That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Contamination 

Second  Reading  of the  Contamination  of  Child- g °  W M w  a 
ren  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a  second time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 

Second  Reading  of  the  Local  G o v e r n m e nt   Government 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

(B^ot 

) 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Hours of 
the  Hours  of  Labour labour 

Second  Reading  of 
/ T>  
(Bakehouses)  Bill; 

\  T>=II 

, 

, 

( B a k e h o u s e s) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  the 21st day of  April  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Licensing  Bill. 

Second  Reading  of  the Licensing Bill j 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being' read,  for  the  Hours of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Hours  of  Labour Labour 
(Surfacemen)  Bill; 

(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trawlers' 

Second  Reading  of  the  Trawlers'  Certificates 
Suspension  Bill; 

Suspension 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a  second time 

upon Friday  next. 

second  time; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
to the  Question, by leaving  out the word "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  six  months."—(Mr. 
Mond.)

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  "  now "  stand part of the  Question  :—And 
a  Debate  arising  thereupon ; 

And a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being put, That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned 
—  (Mr.  I^ambton):  —  It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed upon 
Monday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour  after 
Eight of the  clock. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Prohibition  of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Prohibition  of  Yivi-  Vivisection 
section  Bill; 

Bm-

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Justices of  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Justices  of  the  Peace  Peace  BilL 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  the 21st day  of April  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Shops Bill. 

Second  Reading  of the  Shops  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Representation  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
of  the People  Committee  on the  Representation  of  the  People 
Bil1- 

Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Police Super-

Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Superannuation  annuation 
<^ t , a n d) 
(Scotland) Bill; 

Resolved,  That this House  will, upon  Tuesday 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a  second time 

next, resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

upon Monday  next. 

Waste Lards 
(Ireland) 
Improvement  Improvement  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Waste  Lands  (Ireland) 

The  Order of  the  day being  read, for  taking  Trustees' 
into  consideration  the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill,  Accounts Bill, 
as amended  in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a  second  time 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

upon  Tuesday  next. 

sideration upon  Monday  next. 

Purchase of 
Land 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Purchase  of  Land 
(England  and Wales)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial ^ntl?at[T!.f 
Tools Bill; 
toolsBiu. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  the 22nd day of  April  next. 



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31at  March—1st  April 

Under Sheriffs 
(County-
Boroughs) 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Under  Sheriffs  (County  Boroughs)  (Ire­
land)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a 
second  time,  and  committed  to  a  Standing 
Committee. 

not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are 
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
viz.:— 

Westminster City Council  (Superannuation, 

Pedlars  Acts 
Amendment 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend­
ment  Bill; 

Ac.) Bill  [Lords]. 

Ordered, That the Bill be  read a second  time. 

The  Eastbourne  Gas  Bill wa3  read the third  Eastbourne 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

time and passed. 

Gas Bil1, 

to-morrow. 

Irish  National 
Schools 
(Heating  and 
Cleansing) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating  and Cleansing)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday  the  26th day  of  April  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Harwich 

Second  Reading  of the Harwich  Docks  Bill;

D o c ks

  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  21st  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Board of  Trade  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan­
ning, &c.  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee of  Supply  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

The  Central  London  Railway  Bill  was,  CeDtral 

according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and 
,
.
committed. 

' 

Railway  Bill, 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the  Table. 

r 

£®£iti,?,M- , 
Vide  Second 
Report. 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Queen  Anne's 

Command,—Annual  Report  and  Accounts  ofBounty­
the  Governors  of  Queen Anne's  Bounty for  the 
year ending  31st December  1908. 

Mr.  Hobhouse also presented,  pursuant  to  the  Government 

. 

p 

11 

directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament, —  insurances 
. 
Account  of  all  moneys  received  and  oi  the 
disposal  thereof,  and  of  all  Contracts  for  the 
grant of  Deferred  Life  Annuities  and for  Pay­
ments on Death made, during the year  1908. 

(• 

j 

and  Annuities. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and  that  the  Paper  relative to  Govern­
ment  Insurances  and Annuities  be printed. 

Mr.  Buchanan  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  East  India 

Command,—  Copy  of  Tables  relating  to  the (Trade )
Trade  of  British India with British  Possessions 
and Foreign  Countries  for the five years  1903-4 
to  1907-8. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Table. 

Committee of  Ways and  Means ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

Indian 
Councils  Bill 
[Lords."] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Indian  Councils  Bill 
[.Lords]  ; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

And then the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit  till  five  minutes  after  Eleven  of  the 
clock, adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

[No.  33.] 

Thursday,  1st April  1909. 

The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of the clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

Private  Bills 
[Lords]
(Standing 
Orders not 
previously 
inquired  into 
complied 
with.) 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from one of the Examiners of Petitions for 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case of  the following 
Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords, and  referred  on 
the First  Reading  thereof, the  Standing  Orders 

VOL.  164. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  pursuant  to Diseases of 

the directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Order,  No.  7669,  under  the  Diseases  of 
Animals  Acts,  1894  to  1903,  dated  the  24th 
March 1909, revoking Foreign Animals (Amend­
ment)  Orders,  Nos. 3 and 4, of  1908 (Nos. 7616 
and  7617). 

Ordered,  That the  said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His  Shop  Hours 

Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Return  ofAot>1904­
Closing  Orders  made  by the  Local  Authorities 
under the  Shop Hours Act, 1904, and submitted 
to the Central Authority for confirmation during 
the  period  from  15th  August  1904  to  31st 
December  1908. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Colonial 
Command,—Copy  of  Report,  No.  596  (Swazi-®.ePorts,, 
land, Report for  1907-8). 
(Annual.) 

Ordered,  That the said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His  Army 

Majesty's  Command,—  Copy  of  Memorandum  (Annual)  Bill, 
showing  the  Amendments of  the  Army  Act,  as 

N  3 



 
1st April. 

1909. 

[No/8a 

It,ail way-
Companies' 
Powers  Act, 
1864. 

Swinton  and 
Mexborough 
Gas  Board 
Bill. 

Ards°Railways 
Bill. 

Cork,  Bandon, 
and  South 
Coast Railway 
BiU. 

Preston, 
Chorley, 
and  Horwich 
Tramways 
Bill. 

[Title 
amended.] 

proposed  by  Section  4  of  the  Army  (Annual) 
Bill  (Transfer of  Powers to Army  Council). 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Draft  Certificate  of  the Board of  Trade  under 
the  Railway  Companies'  Powers  Act,  1864, 
authorising  the  Bala  and  Festiniog  Railway 
Company  to raise additional  capital. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper do lie upon the 

Table. 

The  Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  reported 

from  the  Committee  on the  Swinton  and  Mex­
borough  Gas  Board  Bill;  That  they  had 
examined  the  allegations contained  in  the  Pre­
amble  of  the  Bill, and  amended the same  so as 
to  make it consistent  with  the provisions  of  the 
Bill  as passed by  the  Committee, and  found  the 
same,  as  amended,  to  be  true ;  and  had  gone 
through  the  Bill  and  made Amendments there­
unto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways and  Means  reported 
from the Committee  on the Ards  Railways  Bill; 
That  they  had  examined  the  allegations  con­
tained in  the  Preamble  of  the Bill, and  verbally 
amended  the  same,  and  found  the  same,  as 
amended, to  be true ;  and had gone  through  the 
Bill  and  made Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be printed. 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Cork,  Bandon, 
and South  Coast  Railway  Bill;  That  they  had 
examined the allegations  contained  in  the  Pre­
amble of  the Bill, and amended  the  same so  as to 
make it consistent  with the  provisions of the  Bill 
as passed  by the  Committee, and found the same, 
as amended,  to  be  true;  and  had  gone  through 
the  Bill  and made  Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Preston,  Chorley, 
and  Horwich  Tramways  Bill;  That  they  had 
examined  the allegations  contained  in  the  Pre­
amble  of  the  Bill, and  amended  the  same  so  as 
to  make  it consistent  with  the provisions of the 
Bill  as  passed  by  the Committee,  and found the 
same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and  had  gone 
through  the Bill  and  made  Amendments  there­
unto ;  and had  amended the Title, as followeth : 
—A  Bill  to  extend  the  period limited, by  the 
Preston,  Chorley, and Horwich  Tramways  Acts, 
1904, 1905, and  1906, for construction  of  works 
and land purchases, and for other purposes. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Land 
Drainage 
Provisional 
Order  Bill. 
[Provisional 
Order 
confirmed,] 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Land  Drainage 
Provisional  Order  Bill;  That  they  had  con­
sidered  the  Order  therein  contained;  that  the 
said  Order  ought  to  be  confirmed;  and  that 
they  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill, 
without Amendment,  to the  House. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr. Moonei) reported from  the  Committee  on  West 

the  West  Gloucestershire  Water  Bill;  T h at 
with  respect  to  the  Instruction  of the  House  of Bill, 
the  19th  March  last  evidence  was  laid  before 
the  Committee  that  the  provisions  of  the  Bill 
were adequate for the supply  of water at reason­
able rates  to  the  agricultural  community  within 
the area of  supply, and to any person or persons 
from  whom any existing  or  natural supply  is  or 
may be withdrawn  owing to the  works  or  under­
taking  authorised  by  the  Bill. 

Mr. Mooney further  reported  from  the  Com- ' 

mittee ;  That  they had examined the  allegations 
of the Bill, and found  the  same to  be true ;  and 
had  gone  through  the  Bill  and  made  Amend­
ments thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be  printed. 

Mr.  Mooney  reported  from  the Committee  on GaS  Light and 
the  Gas Light  and  Coke  Company  Bill;  That Coke Company 
they  had examined  the  allegations  contained  in  B l"' 
the Preamble  of  the  Bill, and amended  the same 
so  as to make it consistent  with the  provisions  of 
the Bill  as passed  by the  Committee  ;  and found 
the same,  as amended, to be  true ;  and had gone 
through  the Bill  and  made  Amendments  there­
unto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Sir  William Brampton  Gurdon reported  from Selection 
the  Committee  of  Selection  ;  That  they  had (Standing 
discharged  the following  Member from  Standing Standing 
Committee  A  (in  respect  of  the  Sale  of  Intoxi- Committee  A. 
cating  Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill)  :—Mr. Brams- Sale  of 
don;  and  had  appointed 
respect  of  the said  Bill) :  Mr. Leif Jones. 

Intoxicating 
in  substitution  (in Liquors  on 

Committees.) 

Sunday  Bill. 

Ordered,  T h at  the  R e p o rt   do 

lie  upon 

the 

Table. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by the  Lords, 
one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth: 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled An  Liskeard  and 

Act  to  provide  for  the  working  of  the  under- L?oe and 
taking  of  the  Liskeard  and  Looe  Railway c^iadon  and 
Company  by  the Great  Western  Railway  Com-  Railways 
pany, and  for  the  vesting  of  the undertaking  of  g ^ r ' ^ j  ^ 
the Liskeard  and  Caradon  Railway  Company  in 
the  Great  Western  Railway  Company, and  for 
other purposes ;  to which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Liskeard  and  Looe  and  Liskeard  and  Liskeard  and 
Caradon  Railways  (Vesting, &c.)  Bill  [Lords']  ^eardand 
was read the first time. 

Caradon 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the f y ^ ng   &c > 
Bill rzordg.j 

Examiners of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Mr.  Stuart- Wortley reported  from  the  Chair-  Standing 
men's  Panel;  That  they  had  appointed  Sir  g l e n '  s 
Francis Channing to act as Chairman of  Standing  Panel.) 
Committee  C. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


The  Order for  taking into consideration, upon  Trustees 
Monday  next,  the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill,  as Accounts  Bill, 
amended  in the  Standing  Committee, was  read, 
and discharged. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Friday  the  18th  day  of  June  

next. 


Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  the third time 

to-morrow. 

Sir  John Jardine,  supported  by  Mr.  Barnes,  Asylum 
Mr.  Beale,  Mr.  Cowan, Sir  Henry  Craik,  Sir  Officers' Super­

annuation 

­
No. 33.]  9 EDW. YII. 

1st  April. 

95 

(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Bill  141. 

Walter  Foster,  Mr.  Gulland, Mr.  John Hender­
son,  Mr.  Ml Callum,  Mr.  Molteno,  Mr. Dundas 
White,  and  Mr.  Wilkie,  presented  a  Bill  to 
provide  for  the  grant of  superannuation  allow­
ances  to  officers  and  servants  of  public  and 
district  Asylums  in  Scotland  :  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Wednesday  the 21st day  of  this  instant  April  ; 
and to be printed. 

Infant  Life 
Protection 
Bill. 

Bill  142. 

Lord  Robert Cecil, supported  by  Mr.  Shackle-
ton,  Mr.  Chiozza  Money,  and  Mr.  Simon,
presented  a  Bill  to  prevent  the  destruction  of 
Children  during  birth  :  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be read a second  time  upon  Monday 
next;  and to  be  printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan-J°wn. 

• 

o .„  Tj-ii 

nmg, &C. Bill ; 

Planning,  &c. 
Bi|1 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cinematograph 

Second  Reading of the  Cinematograph  Bill; 

B>H. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Supply. 

Committee  of  Supply; 

Resolved,  That this House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

Local 
Education 
Authorities 
(Medical 
Treatment) 
Bill. 

Bill  143. 

Business of 
the  House 
(Supply.) 

Mr.  Walter  Guinnest,  supported  by  Mr. 
Adkins,  Mr.  Hridgeman, Lord  Robert  Cecil, 
Mr.  Fell,  Mr.  Henry  Gooch,  Mr.  Leif  Jones, 
Mr.  Ramsay  Macdonald, Mr.  Maddison,  Mr. 
Peel,  Mr.  Vivian,  and  Mr.  Whitwell Wilson, 
presented  a  Bill  to  provide  for  the  recovery 
by  Local  Education  Authorities  of  costs  for 
Medical  Treatment  of  children attending  public 
elementary  schools  in  England  and  Wales : 
And  the  same  was  ordered  to be read a second 
time upon  Monday  next;  and to  be  printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways  and 

Committee of  Ways  and  Means ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Payment  of 

Second Reading  of  the Payment of  Rates Bill;  Eates BiI1­

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second time 
upon  Wednesday  the  21st  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

Ordered, That  the other Government  Business 

have  precedence  this  day  of  the  Business  of 
Supply.—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

Business of 
the  House 
(Army 
(Annual) 
[Compen­
sation] 
Committee.) 

Ordered,  That the  Proceedings  of  the  Com­
mittee  on  Army  (Annual)  [Compensation]  be 
not interrupted  this evening under the  Standing 
Order  (Sittings  of  the  House),  and  may  be 
entered  upon  and  proceeded  with  at  any hour, 
though opposed.—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

Indian 
Councils  Bill 
[Lords.'] 

The  Indian Councils Bill  [ Lords] was, accord­

ing  to Order, read a second time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Monday 
next.—(Mr.  Buchanan.) 

Army 
(Annual) 
[Compen­
sation.] 

The  House, according to Order, resolved itself 

into  a  Committee  on  Army  (Annual)  [Com­
pensation], 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That it is expedient  to  authorise the 
payment, out  of  money  voted  by Parliament for 
Army  Services, of compensation for damage and 
other  expenses  caused  by  billeting  under  any 
Act  of  the  present  Session  to  provide  during 
twelve  months  for  the  discipline  and regulation 
of the  Army.—(Mr.  Secretary Haldane.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  National 
Second  Reading of the  National  Military Train-  Military 
ing  Bill; 

Training  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill, be  read a eecond  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trade 

Second Reading of the Trade  Disputes Bill; 

Disputes  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  21st  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap  Trains 

Second  Reading  of  the  Cheap Trains  Bill;

Bil1­

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second time 
upon  Wednesday  the  21st  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

The  Asylums  Officers'  Superannuation  Bill  Asylums  


was, according  to  Order, read a second time. 

s^erannua-


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a  tion  Bill.  


Select  Committee.—(Sir  William  Collins.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Road Traffic 

Second  Reading of the Road  Traffic  Bill; 

BiU-

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  20th  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

Resolution  to  be reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the Committee  had come to a Resolution. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Death 
Second  Reading  of  the  Death  Certificates  Certificates 
(Charges)  Bill;  

( B^ r g e s) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  20th  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pedlars  Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-  Amendment 
ment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

to-morrow. 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Board  of  Trade  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sale of 

Second Reading of the Sale of  Margarine Bill;  Margarine 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read a second  time  


upon  Monday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

to-morrow. 


N  4 



Irish  Land
[Advances,

96 

5  th—6 th April. 

1909. 

[No. 36. 

A  Motion being  made, That  this House  will, 

Copy  of  Report  of  the  Crofters  Commission  Crofters' 

Up0n  Monday  next,  resolve  itself  into  a  Com­
mittee  to  consider  of  authorising  the  creation 
of new capital  stock  for  raising  money  for  the 
purposes of  any Act  of  the  present  Session  to 
amend the Law relating  to  the  occupation  and 
ownership of Land  in Ireland, and of  authorising 
charges  on the Consolidated Fund  and  the  pay­
ment, out  of  moneys  provided  by  Parliament, 
of  certain  other  expenses  incurred  under  such 
Act—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease)-, 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,  acquainted  the  House  that  His 
Majesty, having  been  informed of  the  subject-
matter  of  this  Motion,  recommends  it  to  the 
consideration of  the  House. 

for the year  1908. 

( S a f d) 

Ordered, That  the said Papers do lie upon the Acts. 

Table. 

The  following  Paper, pursuant  to  the  direc-  Public 
tions of  an Act  of  Parliament,  was laid upon the Records 
Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House :—Copy  of  ^ n e o  f 
Schedule  containing  a  list  and  particulars  of Chester and 
Classes of Documents arising  in connection with 
Proceedings  before  the  Justice  of  Chester  and 0
in  the  Courts  of  Great  Sessions  in the  Princi­
pality of  Wales, which  have  been  deposited  in 
the Public Record  Office, but are not  considered 
of  sufficient  public  value  to  justify  their  pre­
servation  therein. 

a

Resolved,  That this House  will,  upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the  said  Committee. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit  till  twenty-one  minutes  after  Eleven 
of the clock, adjourned till  to-morrow. 

STANDING  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution by Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Stand­
ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

N a me   o f  B i l l. 

S t a n d i ng 
C o m m i t t e e. 

U n d er  S h e r i f fs 

( C o u n ty  B o r o u g h s) 

B . 

( I r e l a n d)  B i l l. 

[No.  34.] 

Friday,  2nd April  1909. 

The House met at Twelve of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Mountain  Ash
Urban  District
Council  Bill.

  T H  E  House  proceeded  to  take  into  con­

1  sideration the Mountain  Ash  Urban  District 
C o u n c i  ]  Bill,  as amended in the  Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill be read the  third time. 

Wallasey
Tramways  and
^mprovemen

The  House proceeded  to take  into  considera­

the Wallasey  Tramways and  Improvements 

  gjj]^ ag  amenc|ed i n  the Committee.  . 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the  third time. 

Mr.  Jowett,  supported  by  Mr.  Parker,  Mr.  Factory  ami 
Snowden,  and  Mr.  George  Roberts,  presented  a jj^ngoi) 
Bill  to  prohibit  employment  between  Noon  on  Amendment 
Saturday  and  Six  of  the  clock  on  Monday  Bill, 
morning  in cotton,  woollen, worsted, flax, hemp,  Bill 144, 
silk, jute,  and  paper  factories, and  in bleaching 
and dyeing  works :  And  the  same  was  ordered 
to be read  a  second  time upon  Wednesday  the 
21st  day  of  this  instant  April;  and  to  be 
printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Licensed 
Second  Reading  of  the  Licensed  Premises -Premises 
(Election  Days)  Closing Bill; 

Days/ciosing 

And  a Motion being  made, and  the  Question BlU* 

being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

An  Amendment  wa3 proposed  to  be made  to 
the Question, by leaving  out  the  word "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day  six  months." — (Mr. 
Ashley.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word "  now "  stand part of  the Question : —And 
a Debate arising thereupon ; 

Mr.  Charles Roberts  rose  in  his  place  and  0 

claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

And  the  Question  being put,  That the  Ques-  Question pot 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 

tion be  now put; 

r 
The  House divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Charles  Roberts, 

Yeas, 

I Sir Ivor  Herbert:  

Tellers for the f Sir  William Bull, 


Noes, 

I. Mr.  Ren wick: 

of  Debate.) 

}  197. 

j  49. 

Land 
Drainage 
Provisional
Order BilL

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 

Trade  Reports
(Annual
Series.)

The  Land  Drainage  Provisional  Order  Bill 
was, according to Order, read the third time and 
_ o o o .  j
passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

Several Public Petitions  were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
H ; s  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic 
a n (j  Consular Reports, Annual  Series, No.  4187. 
Ordered,  That  the  said Paper do lie upon the 

Table. 

Births,  Deaths,  The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His 
Marriages, and Majesty's Command,—Copy  of the Fifty-fourth 
S o t t o d?  Annual  Report  on  the  Births,  Deaths,  and 
Marriages  in  Scotland,  for  1908,  and  Forty-
fourth Annual Report  on  Yaccination. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the  Question  being  accordingly  put, 
That  the  word  "  now"  stand  part  of  the 
Question; 

The  House divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right. 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr.  Charles Roberts,

Yeas, 

I Sir Ivor  Herbert:


Tellers for thefMr. Ashley,


Noes, 

\Mr.  Carlile  :

"I  JQQ 
J 
> 
} 

46. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
And  the  Main Question  being  put; 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be  now  read  a second 
time :—The Bill  was  accordingly  read  a second 
time. 

A  Motion was made, and  the  Question  being 
put, That  the Bill  be committed  to a Committee 
of  the whole  House—(Sir  Frederick Banbury) ; 

 
 
 
 
 
ffo. 34.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

2nd—-5th April. 

97 

The  House  divided. 
The Yeas to the Right ; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the ("Sir Frederick  Banbury, V

Yeas, 

\Mr  .Remnant:  


Tellers for the [ Mr.  Charles  Roberts,  


Noes, 

( Sir Ivor  Herbert: 

So  it passed  in the  Negative. 
The Bill was committed  to  a  Standing  Com­

j  31. 

167. 

}

mittee. 

Town  Tenants 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of  the  Town  Tenants  (Ireland) 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second time 
upon  Thursday  the  22nd  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  pediars  Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  A m e n d-   Amendment 
ment Bill; 

B,lh 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sale  of 
Second Reading  of the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill;  Margarine 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cinematograph 

upon  Monday the 3rd day of  May  next. 

Second Reading  of  the  Cinematograph  Bill;

Bl11­

Railways 
(Eight  Hours) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the Railways  (Eight  Hours) 
Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Friday  the  16th day  of  this instant  April. 

Workmen's 
Compensation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Workmen's  Compensa­
tion  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  behead  a second  time 

upon Friday  the 30th day  ox this instant  April. 

Law of  Murder 
(Amendment) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Law of  Murder (Amend­
ment)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Friday  the 23rd day  of  this instant  April. 

Ordered,  That  the BiU be read  a  second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Mr.  Osmond  Williams  reported  from  the Railway  Bills 

Committee  on Group  1  of  Railway  Bills  ; That,  < G l 0 u P  ^ 
for  the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee 
bad  adjourned  till  Thursday  the  22nd  day  of 
this instant April,  at Twelve of  the clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant  

to  Standing  Order  No.  3,  it  being  then  

twenty-seven  minutes  after  Five  of  the  

clock, till Monday  next.  


Deaths 
Registration
and  Burials 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the  Deaths Registration and 
Burials  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Friday  the 23rd day  of this instant  April. 

[No.  35.] 

Monday, 5th April  1909. 
The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 

before  Three of  the clock. 


Cruelty  to 
Animals 
(No.   2)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Cruelty  to  Animals 
(No. 2)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Friday  the 23rd day of this instant  April. 

Engines and 
Boilers 
(Persons in 
Charge)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Engines  and  Boilers 
(Persons ill  Charge)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a  second time 
upon  Thursday  the  22nd  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

Registration 
of  Clubs 
(Ireland)  BUI.

Handloom 
Weaving  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Registration  of  Clubs 

( I r e l a n d ) B m  

. &

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

upon  Friday the 23rd day  of this instant April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Handloom  Weaving 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Friday  the 23rd day  of this instant April. 

Trawlers' 
Certificates 
Suspension 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Trawlers'  Certificates 
Suspension  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Friday  the 23rd day  of  this instant  April. 

National
Military
Training  Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of the  National  Military  Train­
i u g B i U; 

VOL.  164. 

P R A T E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private  Bills 

from one of  the  Examiners of  Petitions for 

! 'rivate  Bills, That  in the  case  of  the following previously 
Bill, referred  on the  First  Reading  thereof,  the inquired  into 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into, 
and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have  been 
complied  with,  viz.:— 

Watford  and Edgware Railway  Bill.  


Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a second  time.  


Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private  Bills 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for [gf^fJ 
Private  Bills, That  in the  case  of  the  following  orders  not 
Bills, originating  in  the  Lords, and  referred  on  previously 
the  First  Reading thereof, the Standing  Orders  ^  i
l
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are  with.) 
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
viz. :— 

l t  o 

Wirral  Railway  (Extension  of  Time)  Bill 

[Lords].


Midland  Railway  Bill  [Lords].  

Lancashire  and  Yorkshire  and  North 

Eastern Railways  Bill  [Lords].

Liverpool  Corporation  Bill  [Lords].

Clevedon  Water Bill [Lords']. 

United  Kingdom  Temperance  and General  


Provident  Institution  Bill  [Lords].


Liskeard  and  Looe  and  Liskeard  and 
Caradon  Railways  (Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  

[Lords].

Heckmondwike  and  Liversedge  Gas  Bill 

[Lords], 


Ordered, That the  Bills be read a second  time.  


 
 
 






98 

5th—6thApril. 

1909. 

[No.  36. 

Torrens' 
Divorce  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Torrens'  Divorce  Bill  [ Loras]  was  read  the 

third  time  and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them that  this House 
hath agreed to the same, without  Amendment. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Irish  Land 
Command,—Copy  of  Return of  Advances  made  Commi3Sion' 
under  the  Irish  Land  Act,  1903,  during  the 
month of  October  1908. 

Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Motor  Car 

NorthaUerton

water  Bill.

The  House proceeded  to take  into  considera­
t | o n   t ] j  e  Northallerton  Water  Bill,  as amended 
in the  Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read the third time. 

directions of  several Acts of  Parliament,—Copy  Acta-
of  Order  under  the  Motor  Car  Acts,  made 
by  the  Local  Government  Board  for  Ireland, 
regulating  the  driving  and  use  of  Motor  Cars 
on certain roads  in  County  Kildare  at  the  time 
of  the  Kildare  and  National  Hunt  (Punches­
town)  Race  Meetings. 

Anglo-
Argentine 
Tramways 
Company  Bill 
[Lords.] 

London, 
Chatham, 
and  Dover 
Railway  Bill 
L-EorrfZa.] 

Jones's 
Almshouse  and 
Grammar 
School 
Foundation 
Bill. 

The  Anglo-Argentine  Tramways  Company 
Bill  £Lords]  was  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed. 

The  London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railway 
Bill  £Lords]  was  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  Jones's  Almshouse  and 
Grammar  School Foundation  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second time 
upon  Thursday  the  22nd  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

Kilkenny, 
Castlecomer, 
and  Athy 
Railway  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Kilkenny,  Castlecomer, 
and Athy  Railway  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 
upon  Tuesday the 20th day of this instant  April. 

Local 
Government 
Provisional 
Order  (Poor 
Law)  BiU. 

Bill  145. 

Mr.  Masterman, supported  by  Mr.  Burns,
presented a Bill to confirm  a Provisional  Order 
of  the  Local  Government  Board  relating  to 
Southampton :  And  the  same was  read the first 
time. 

Copy  of  Order  in  Council making Regulations  Poisons  and 
under  Section  2  of  the  Poisons  and  Pharmacy  Pharmacy  Act, 
Act,  1908.  

i  m 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Runciman presented,  by  His  Majesty's Imperial 
Command,—Copy  of  First  Annual  Report  of  College  of 
the Governing  Body  of  the  Imperial  College  of |°eXnoiogJ. 
Science  and  Technology,  South  Kensington, 
embracing  the  Royal  College  of  Science,  the 
Royal  School  of  Mines, and  the City and Guilds 
College, for the year ending  31st July  1908. 

Copy  of  Regulations  for  the  Training  of  Board  of 
Teachers  of  Domestic  Subjects  (in  force  from  Education. 
1st August  1909). 

Ordered,  That  the said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His  Army 
Majesty's  Command, —  Estimate  of  the  sum  (Ordnance 
required for the year  ending 3lst  March  1910  to  l ^ a t e  0 
defray the expense of  t h  e  O r d n a n c  e  Factories. 
1909-10.' 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Estimate  be referred  N o - 92* 

to the  Committee  of  Supply ;  and  be printed. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private Bills;  and 
be printed. 

.  • 

Harwich 
Docks  Bill. 

The  Order  made  upon  the  1st  day  of  this 
instant April,  That the Harwich  Docks  Bill  be 
read a second time upon  Wednesday the 21st day 
of this instant April, was read, and  discharged. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be withdrawn. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered to  lie upon the  Table. 

Life  Assurance
Companies.
No. 91.

  Mr.  Churchill  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
  Statements of  Accounts  and of  Life  Assurance 
and Annuity B usiness, and Abstracts of Actuarial 
Reports,  deposited  with  the  Board  of  Trade 
under the  Life  Assurance  Companies Act, 1870, 
during the year ended 31st December  1908. 

Ordered,  That the said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Historical 
Manuscripts 
(Royal 
Commission.) 

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the 
Royal  Commission  on  the  Manuscripts  of  the 
Earl  of  Egmont,  Vol.  II.  ;  and  Report  on 
Manuscripts  in various  Collections,  Vol.  V. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  also  presented,  pur­
suant to  the directions of  an Act  of  Parliament, 
—Copies of  Orders under the  Shop  Hours  Act, 
1904,  made  by  the  Councils  of  the  County  of 
Glamorgan  and  of  the  County  Borough  of 
Northampton,  and  confirmed  by  the  Secretary 
of  State  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
hours of closing for certain  classes of  Shops. 

Ordered,  That the  said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return to  an Order, National 
dated  the  25th  day of  June  in  the last  S e s s i on   income  and 
of  Parliament,  for  a  Return  of  the  gross  ° < ^  e d f r o  m 
Income  and  Outgo  of  the  Government  or  the  National 
United  Kingdom  in  the  year  1906-7,  and  a  Expenditure.) 
corresponding  estimate  for  the  year  1908-9,  ^o. 93. 
showing  for  each  separate  department  or voted 
service  the total income from all sources  and the 
total outgo  under  all  heads,  including  in  italics 
receipts  from  or  payments  into  the  Exchequer, 
and distinguishing  between  (a)  sums  raised  by 
loan ;  (b) sums raised by taxation;  (c) payments 
received from  the  public  for  services  rendered, 
including  postal  revenue,  court  fees,  fees  for 
admission to museums, sales of publications, &c. ; 
(d)  payments  received  from,  or  an  estimate  of 
the  value  of unpaid  services  rendered  to, other 
Government  Departments ;  (e)  rents,  royalties, 
&c. received  on account of  Government  property 
or  Government  monopolies;  (f)  sums  received 
from  sale of  stores, &c.;  (g)  sums  received  for  . 
fines  and penalties ;  (h)  sums refunded ; (i)  sums 
received from local authorities ;  ( j) sums received 
from  other  Governments;  and  distinguishing 
between  payments charged  on  Votes  in  Supply, 
payments  charged upon  the  Consolidated  Fund, 
and other payments, including the estimated value 
of  services  received 
from  other  Government 
Departments,  and  not  paid  for ;  and,  further, 
showing  whether such payments were devoted  to 
reduction of debt, or to current expenditure, or to 
grants to local authorities  or other Governments. 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His prisons 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Thirty-first  (Scotland.) 
Annual  Report  of  the  Prison  Commissioners 
for  Scotland,  being  the  Seventieth  Annual 
Report  On Prisons  in  Scotland, 1908. 

 
 
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5th  April 

99 

Boycotting 
Cases 
Ireland.) 

Ordered,  That  the  said Paper do lie upon the 

1 

Table. 

Ordered,  That there  be laid  before this House 
a  Return  of  the  number  of  cases  of  persons 
boycotted  throughout  Ireland  on  the  under-
mentioned  dates, and in the following form, with 
a  footnote  indicating  the  dates  at  which  pro­
clamations  applying  the  provisions of  Section 2 
of  the Criminal  Law  and Procedure  Act,  1887, 
to certain  districts were issued and revoked, the 
dates  at which proclamations  applying  the  pro­
visions of  Sections  3 and 4 of the Act  to certain 
counties  and  county  boroughs were  issued  and 
revoked,  and  the  date  in  1901  on  which  pro­
ceedings werefirst instituted under the provisions 
of  Section  2,  Subsection  3  (a),  of  the  Act, 
which are operative without proclamation  :— 

Complete 
Boycotting. 

Partial 
Boycotting. 

Date. 

Cases.  Persons.  Cases.  Persons. 

30th  June 1893 
1894 
1895 
1896 

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.  


„ 
„ 

1897 
1898 
1899 
1900 
1901 

31st  December  1901  

30th  June  1902 
31st  December 1902 

30th  June  1903 
31st  December  1903  

30th June  1904 
31st  December  1904  

30th June  1905 
- ,  

31st December  1905  

30th June  1906 
31st  December  1906  

30th June  1907 
31st  December  1907  

30th June  1908 
31st  December  1908  

28th  February  1909  


Minor 
Boycotting, 

Total. 

Date. 

Cases.  Persons.  Cases.  Persons. 

- '  


30th June  1893 
1894 
1895 
1896 
1897 
1898 
1899 
1900 
1901 

31st  December  1901 
30th  June  1902 
31st December  1902 
30th June  1903 
31st  December  1903 
30th June  1904 
31st  December  1904  

30th  June  1905 
31st  December  1905  

30th June  1906 
31st  December  1906 
30th June  1907 
31st  December  1907 
30th  June  1908 
31st  December  1908 
28th February  1909 

—(Mr .Butcher.) 

VOL.  164.  


Ordered,  That  there  be laid before this House  Resident 
a Return of  the Resident Magistrates in Ireland,  Magistrates 
showing  their  names,  ages  when  appointed, >  re an 
former vocation, districts where they now exercise 
jurisdiction,  salaries  on  appointment  and  at 
present,  and  the  dates  of  appointment  (in  con­
tinuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  347  of 
Session  1907).—(Mr.  Jeremiah  MacVeagh.) 

Ordered,  That there  be laid before this House  Tramways 
a  Return  of  Street  and  Road  Tramways  and  ^ i i ^ f^ 
Light  Railways  authorised  by  Act  or  Order, rgtreet^nd 
showing  the  amount  of  capital  authorised,  paid  Road.) 
up, and expended ;  the length  of  line authorised, 
and  the  length  open for  public  traffic  down  to 
the  31st  day  of  December  1908  in  respect  of 
companies,  and  the  31st  day of  March  1909  in 
respect  of  local  authorities ;  the  gross receipts, 
working expenditure,  net receipts and appropria­
tion  of  net  receipts ;  the  number of  passengers 
conveyed, the number of  miles  run  by cars,  and 
the quantity of  electrical  energy  used during the 
year  ended  on the foregoing  dates respectively  ; 
together  with the number of horses, engines, and 
cars  at  those  dates  (in  continuation  of  Par­
liamentary  Paper,  No.  268  of  Session  1908).— 
(Mr. Churchill.) 

Mr.  Dickinson,  supported  by  Sir  Charles Women's 

M'Laren,  Mr.  Burt,  Mr.  Corrie  Grant,  Mr. 
Fenwick, Mr.  Gulland, Mr. Howard, Mr.  Ramsay ^n" 
Macdonald,  Mr. Hart-Davies, Mr.  Charles Price,  gyi 
and  Mr.  Charles  Roberts,  presented  a  Bill  to 
enable  Women  to  vote  at Parliamentary  Elec­
tions :  And  the same  was  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second  time  upon  Monday  the  3rd  day of  May 
next;  and to  be printed. 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being  Business of 
put,  That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Housing, t^Houae 
Town  Planning,  &c.  Bill,  if  under  discussion Town™8' 
when  the  Business  is  postponed,  be  resumed  Planning,  &c. 
and  proceeded  with,  though  opposed,  afterBlU )
the  interruption  of  Business—(Mr.  Secretary 
Gladstone); 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas to the  Right; 

The  Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for theTMr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

1 Master of  Elibank : 


}  167. 

Tellers for the f Sir  Frederick  Banbury,  
} 52. 

(Mr.  Mildmay:  


Noes, 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing 
Second  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Plan- J'?wn. 
o 
ning, &c. Bill; 

t>-n 

Planning,  &c. 
Bill> 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second time ; 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
"  That "  to the end of the  Question,  and  adding 
the  words  "  this  House,  while  recognising  the 
need for the improvement  in  the  housing  of  the 
people, declines  to make the cost of this national 
service  a further charge  upon  the local rates "— 
(Mr.  Lane-Fox),—instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed to  be  left  out  stand  part of  the 
» 
Question; 

And it being a quarter of  an hour after Eight 
of  the  clock, and there  being  Private  Business 
set down  by  direction of  the Chairman of  Ways 
and Means under  Standing  Order No. 8, further 
proceeding  was postponed without  Question put. 

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5th—(5th  April. 

1909.  [No. 35. 


Great 
Northern, 
Great  Central, 
and  Great 
Eastern 
Bailways  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment  which, 
upon  the  31st day  of  March  last, was  proposed 
to  be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the  Great 
Northern,  Great  Central,  and  Great  Eastern 
Railways Bill  be now read a second  time ; 

Which  Amendment  was,  to  leave  out  the 
word "  now,"  and, at the end of  the  Question,  to 
add  the  words  "  upon  this  day  six  months "— 
(Mr.  Mond); 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed, 
That  the  word  "  now"  stand  part  of  the 
Question  :  —  The  House  resumed  the  said 
adjourned  Debate. 

And the  Question  being put ; 
The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Eugene  Wason, 
( Mr.  Samuel Roberts: 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Mond, 

Noes, 

( Mr. Hudson : 


So it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

And  the Main  Question  being put  ;  

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to the  Right;  

The  Noes to the  Left.  

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Eugene  Wason,  


Yeas, 

( Mr.  Samuel Roberts  : 

Tellers for the  f Mr. Mond,

Noes, 

( Mr. Hudson: 

136. 

111. 

So it was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
The  Bill  was accordingly  read a second  time. 
A  Motion was  made, and  the  Question  being 
proposed, That the Bill be committed  to  a Select 
Committee of  Nine  Members, Five  to  be  nomi­
nated  by  the House and Four  by the  Committee 
of  Selection—(Mr.  Churchill) :—And  a  Debate 
arising  thereupon; 

And  it being  after  Eleven  of  the  clock, and 
objection  being  taken  to further  proceeding,  the 
Debate  stood  adjourned. 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­
morrow,  at  a quarter  of  an hour after  Eight  of 
the clock. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

The postponed  proceeding  on the  Amendment 
proposed  to be made to  the  Question,  That  the 
Housing,  Town  Planning,  &c. Bill  be now read 
a second time, was resumed. 

And the  Question being  again proposed, That 
the words  proposed  to  be  left out stand part of 
the  Question:—And  a  Debate  arising  there­
upon ; 

And  the  House  having  continued  to sit  till 
after Twelve  of the clock  on Tuesday morning ; 

Tuesday,  6th April 1909 : 
Mr. Burns  rose  in  his  place  and  claimed  to 

move, That  the  Question  be now put. 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  .Debate.") 

And  the  Question  being  put, That the  Ques­
tion  be  now  put:  —  It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

And  the Question being accordingly  put, That 
the words proposed to be left  out  stand  part  of 
the  Question  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the  f Mr. Joseph Pease,  | 128«

} 20. 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Lane-Fox, 

1 Mr .Hicks  Beach : 


( Mr.  Herbert Lewis 


So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

And  the Main  Question being put ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be now read  a  second  


Noes, 

time:—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  a second 
time. 

Ordered, That,  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House for  this day.— 
(Mr. Burns.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  reported  from  the Army 
Committee  on  Army  (Annual)  [Compensation] (Annual) 
[Compen­
a  Resolution;  which was read,  as followeth  : 
sation.] 

That it  is expedient  to authorise  the payment, 
out  of  money  voted  by  Parliament  for  Army 
Services,  of compensation  for  damage and other 
expenses caused  by  billeting  under  any Act  of 
the  present  Session  to  provide  during  twelve 
months  for  the  discipline  and regulation  of  the 
Army. 

140. 

126. 

The  said Resolution, being read a second time, 

was agreed  to. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Revenue  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Buildings and 

Second  Reading  of  the Buildings  and Engineer-
ing  Works  Bill; 

Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 
Second  Reading  of the  London  Electric  Supply Electric 
Bill; 

Supply  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trawling  in 

Second  Reading  of  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited 
Areas (Prevention)  Bill; 

(Prevention) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second time BlU­

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Army 

Committee  on the Army  (Annual)  Bill; 

(Annual)  Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Secretary  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary of  the  Board  the Board of 
^ F t o  l 
of  Agriculture and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second  time  Bm­

this day. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trade  Boards 

Second  Reading  of  the Trade  Boards  Bill; 

Bi]1­

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking  Supply 

into consideration  the  Sixth of  the Resolutions [22nd March] 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day  of  March  last, were

epor 

 
No.  35.]  9  EDW,  V I I. 

5th—6th  April. 

101 

(Deferred 
Resolution.) 

reported  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the 
22nd day of  March  last; 

Ordered, That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

into further consideration this day. 

Irish  Land 
Biil. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the  Irish Land  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into  the said Committee. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second time 

. 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  open  Spaces 

Second  Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces (Scotland)  (Scotland) 
Bill; 

BUL 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a  second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  21st  day  of .this  instant 
April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Indian 
Councils  Bill  Committee  on the Indian  Councils Bill [Lords]; 
[Lords.] 
Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order of  the  day being  read, for  taking  Oaths Bill, 

into consideration  the  Oaths Bill,  as amended in 
the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

Board of  Trade  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Bill. 

Second  Reading  of  the Board of Trade  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill be  read  a second time 

this day. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

Ways and 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee of  Ways and  Means ; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Registration  of 

Second  Reading  of  the Registration  of  Nurses ^ursp,s 
(Scotland)  B i l l!  

( ^ t l a n d) 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 
upon  Monday  the  19th day of  this instant  April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Fruit  Growers 

Second  Reading  of  the  Fruit  Growers  (Scot-  (Scotland) 
land) Bill; 

BiU-

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 
upon Monday  the 26th day of  this instant  April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Necessitous 

Second  Reading  of  the  Necessitous  Mothers  Motl?era 
(Assistance)  Bill  ; 

(Assistance) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 
upon  Monday  the 26th day of  this instant  April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Nurses 

Second  Reading  of  the  Nurses  (Registration)  (Registration) 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

Cinemato-
graph  Bill. 

Franchise  and 
Removal  of 
Women's 
Disabilities 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on Irish  Laud [Advances, &c.] ; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,,  this  day, 

this day. 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Licensing  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Licensing  Bill; 

Second  Reading  of  the Cinematograph  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a  second time 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a  second time 
upon Monday  the  26 th day  of  this instant April. 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Franchise  and  Removal 
of  Women's Disabilities  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Hours  of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Hours of Labour  (Sur­
facemen)  Bill; 

(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this day. 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Licensing 
Justices  Bill.  Second  Reading  of the Licensing  Justices  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  22nd  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Territorial 
Army  Ballot  Second Reading  of  the Territorial  Army  Ballot 
Bill. 

Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second time 
upon Monday  the 26th day  of  this instant  April. 

Law  Agents 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Scotland)  Act  g e c ond  Reading  of  the Law  Agents  (Scotland) 
Amendment 

A m e n d m e nt  B i l

j  . 

^ 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Police  Super-

Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Superannuation aquation 
g S  ^ 
(Scotland) Bill? 

. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a  second  time 
upon Monday  the  19th day of  this instant April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Infant  Life 
Second  Reading  of  the  Infant Life  Protection  Protection 
Bill;

m

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second time 
upon  Monday the 26th  day of  this instant  April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 
Second  Reading of  the  Local  Education  Autho-  Education 
rities  (Medical  Treatment)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time  Treatment) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a  second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  21st  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

this day. 

Public  Health 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
{Provisional  Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  (Pro-
Orders)  Bill,  vJgional Orders)  Bill; 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Pedlars  Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  A m e n d - A m e n d m e nt 
ment Bill; 

1  ' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this day. 

O 3 

Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

102 	

5th—6 th April. 

1909. 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Order or  Provisional  Certificate,  ako  for  depo-
Second  Beading  of  the Sale  of  Margarine  Billj  siting  at  the  Private  Bill  Office  all Documents 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time relating to  any  Order  under  the  Private  Legis-
lation  Procedure 
(Scotland)  Act,  1899,  be 
extended  to  the  first  day  on  which  the  House  

shall  sit  after  the  Recess.—(The  Chairman  of  

Ways  and  Means.)  


this day. 

[No.  36. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of the 
clock  on  Monday  evening,  Mr.  Speaker 
adjourned  the  House  without  Question 
put, pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order,  it 
being  then  three  minutes  before  One of 
the  clock  on  Tuesday  morning,  till  this 
day. 

STANDING  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution  by Mr. Speaker, pursuant to  Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

N a me   o f  B i l l. 

S t a n d i ng 

C o m m i t t e e. 

L i c e n s ed  P r e m i s es 

( E l e c t i on  D a y s) 

A . 

C l o s i ng  B i l l. 

[No.  36.] 

Tuesday, 6 th April  1909. 
The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Provisional 
Order Bills 
(no  Standing 
Orders 
applicable.) 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from one of the Examiners  of  Petitions for 
Private  Bills, That  in  the case of  the  following 
Bills, referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, no 
Standing  Orders are applicable, viz. :— 

Land  Drainage  Provisional  Order  (No.  2) 

Bill. 

Land  Drainage  Provisional  Order  (No.  3) 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bills  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Wallasey

Improvement  B i  U
Bill-

The  Wallasey  Tramways  and  Improvements 
  the third time and passed. 
  w as  r e ad
Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Several  Public  Petitions were  presented, and  Public  


read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide  Second  

Report. 


Mr.  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Poisons and 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Pharmacy  Act, 
Order in Council, dated  2nd  April  1909, making 
Regulations  under  Section  2 (3)  of  the  Poisons 
and Pharmacy  Act,  1908,  in  regard  to the  sale 
of  certain  Poisonous  Substances  for  use  in 
Agriculture  Or Horticulture. 

' 

Ordered,  That the said  Paper do lie  upon the 


Table. 


Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return to  an Order,  National  

dated  the  19th  day  of  March  last, for a Return ^uxse^3it 

relative  to  National  Museums  (Expenditure  on  o i K / j i c  ) 

Sites, &c.). 

No. 94. 


Ordered,  That the said Return  do lie upon the 


Table;  and be printed. 


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His  Railway and' 
Majesty's  Command,  —  Copy  of  Twentieth  Canal Traffi<* 
Annual  Report of the Railway  and Canal  Com-^is'^5 4 
mission, with  Appendix. 

Ordered,  That the  said Paper  do lie  upon the 


Table. 


Ordered,  That  there be laid before this  House  National  


a  Copy of Account  of  Receipts and Expenditure 

of the National Physical Laboratory, with Balance
Sheet, for the year  1908.—(Mr. Hobhouse.) 


a  ra  TJ

'  


The  Order for  reading  a  second  time,  upon  Salmon, 
Wednesday  the  21st  day  of  this  instant  April,  Trout, and 
the  Salmon, Trout, and  River  Tweed  Fisheries  SerielMi. 
Bill  was read, and discharged. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Tuesday  the  18th day of  May  next. 

Mr.  Whitwell  Wilson,  supported by  Mr. Hugh Criminal  Law 

Law,  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the
Law  Amendment  Act,  1885,  and  for  other 
purposes  connected  therewith:  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  

Thursday the 29th day of this instant April;  and  

to  be printed.  


  C r i m i n al

 Amendment 
^ 
'* 

Ards Railways  The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera­
B111­

tion  the  Ards  Railways  Bill,  as amended  in the 
Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time. 

Mr,  Hobhouse  presented  a  Bill  to  enable  an Assistant 
Assistant  Postmaster  General  to  sit  in  the GeneTal^Bm 
House of  Commons:  And the same was ordered 
' 
to be  read a second time  upon Monday  the  19 th 
day  of this instant April;  and to  be printed. 

j™  . 
1 

Swinton  and 
Mexborough 
Gas Board 
Bill. 

The  House proceeded  to  take  into  considera­
tion  the  Swinton  and  Mexborough  Gas  Board 
Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  the third time. 

West
GJoncestershire ti o n  the  West  Gloucestershire  Water  Bill,  as 
Water BiU. 

The  House proceeded  to  take  into considera­

amended  in the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read the third time. 

Private Bills, 
&c." 	

Ordered,  That  Standing  Orders 39,  128,  204, 
and  230  be  suspended,  and  that  the  time  for 
depositing  Petitions  and  Memorials  against 
Private Bills, or against any  Bill  to confirm any 
Provisional  Order  or  Provisional  Certificate, 
and for depositing  duplicates  of  any Documents 
relating  to  any Bill  to  confirm  any  Provisional 

Ordered, That  leave  be  given  to  bring  in  a Juvenile 

Bill  to  provide  for  the  licensing  of  Juvenile 
Female  Employment  Agents  and  the protection  m p  oyment* 
of  young  Girls  :  And  that  Mr.  Hay,  Lord 
Edmund  Talbot,  Sir  Ivor  Herbert,  Viscount 
Morpeth,  Mr.  Ashley,  and  Mr.  Yoxall do  pre­
pare  and bring it in. 

Mr.  Hay  accordingly  presented  a Bill  to  pro- Juvenile 

vide for the licensing of Juvenile Female Employ­
ment Agents  and the protection  of  young  Girls  :
And  the  same  was  read  the  first  time,  and  Bill  149. 
ordered to be read a second  time upon  Wednes­
day the  21st  day  of  this  instant  April;  and  to 
be printed. 

oymen 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Army 

Committee  on the Army  (Annual)  Bill; 

> 
(Annual)  Bill. 

 
 
 








 
No. 36.]  9  E D W.   YII. 

6 th  April.  	

1 03 

The  Order of  the day  being read, for resuming  Great 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  pro-  Northern, 
posed  upon  the  5th  day  of  this  instant  April,^dGr^f™1' 
That  the  Great  Northern,  Great  Central,  and  Eastern 
Great  Eastern  Railways  Bill  be  committed  Railways  Bill, 
to  a Select  Committee  of  Nine  Members,  Five 
to  be nominated by  the  House  and  Four  by  the 
Committee  of  Selection—(Mr.  Churchill) ; 

A  Motion  was made,  and  the  Question  being 
put,  That  it  be  an Instruction  to  the  Committee 
that they  have power  to  divide  the  Bill  into  two 
Bills,  and  to  embody  Clause  4  and  Parts  I. 
and  II.  of  the  Second  Schedule  to  the  Bill  in a 
separate  Bill—(Mr.  Bowles); 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the [Mr.  Bowles, 

Yeas, 

"1 
i Mr. Mitchell-Thomson  :  J 
1
1 3 8. 
f 

Tellers for the | Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
\ Master of Elibanh : 

Noes, 

71. 

So it passed in the  Negative. 

Then  the  House  resolved  itself  into the  Com­

mittee. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  1 agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  2  (Army  Act  to  be  in  force  for 

specified  times). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  2,1.  27,  to  leave 
out  the  words  "thirtieth  day  of  April,"  in 
order  to  insert  the  words  "thirty-first  day  of 
July."—(Captain  Craig.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  Words  proposed 

to be left out stand part of  the Clause  :—Amend­
ment, by  leave,  withdrawn.  . 

» 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  2,1.  35, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  while  in  force."— 
(Captain  Craig.) 

Question,  That  the  words  proposed  to be  left 
out  stand part of  the  Clause,  put,  and agreed  to. 

Clause  agreed  to. 
Clause  No. 3  (Prices  in respect  of  billeting). 
Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Clause  stand part of  the  Bill. 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers  for  the fMr. Joseph Pease, 
[Master  of Elibank 

Yeas, 

1177. 

Tellers for the f Mr. Renwich,

Noes, 

[Mr.  Watson RutherfordI:}  

4 5 

Clause  No.  4  (Transfer  of  powers  to  Army 

Council). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,  1.  7,  to  leave 
out  the  words  "There  shall  be  transferred  to 
the  Army  Council,"  in  order  to insert the  words 
4<It  shall  be  lawful  for  a  Secretary  of  State 
himself to assume, or, by  order  in writing  under 
his own hand and  subject  to  any limitations and 
conditions  set  forth  in the order, to  transfer  for 
the period  specified  in the order  to any  member 
of  the  Army  Council,  and  by  similar  order  at 
any time to resume to  himself  again,  any  of  the 
powers  and  duties  next  hereinafter  mentioned 
(that  is to  say)."—(Mr.  Bowles.) 

Question  put, That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left out  stand part of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the J" Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
\ Master  of  Elibank 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the J" Mr.  Bowles, 

Noes, 

\Mr. Mitchell-Thomson 

134. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,1.  17, 
to  leave  out from  the word  "  that" to  the  end of 
I. 24.—(Captain	  Craig.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to be left out,  to the word  " under," in p.  3,1. 20, 
stand  part of  the  Clause  : 

And  it  being a quarter of  an hour  after  Eight 
of the clock, and there being Private  Business set 
down by  direction of the  Chairman of  Ways and 
Means  under  Standing  Order  No.  8,  further 
proceeding  was postponed  without Question  put. 

VOL.  164. 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed:—  

The  House resumed  the  said adjourned  Debate.  

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to  

the  Question, by  leaving  out  the  word  "  Nine,"  

and inserting  the word "  Fifteen "—(Mr.  Ernest  

Lamb),—instead thereof. 


And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the word 

"  Nine "  stand part of  the  Question  :—It  passed  

in the  Negative.  


And  the  Question  being put, That  the  word  

"Fifteen "  be  there  inserted:—It  was resolved  

in  the Affirmative. 


Then  the  Question  was  further  amended, by 

leaving  out  the word "  Five,"  and  inserting  the  

word  "  Eight," instead  thereof  ;  and  by  leaving  

out  the  word  " Four,"  and  inserting  the  word  

"  Seven "—(Mr. Ernest Lamb),—instead thereof. 


A n  d 

t he  M a in  Q u e s t i o n,

  s o  a m e n d e d,  b e i ng 

p u t; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a  

Select  Committee  of  Fifteen  Members,  Eight  

to  be  nominated  by  the  House  and  Seven  by  

the  Committee  of  Selection.  


Ordered, That  the  Committee  have power  to  


send for persons, papers, and records. 


Ordered, That  Nine  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee.—(Mr.  Churchill.)  


A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being 
proposed,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
Committee  to  consider  the proposals of  the  Bill 
in  relation  to  the  public  interest,  as  well  as 
to  the  various  interests  directly  affected;  to 
hear the Board of  Trade  and any  other  Govern­
ment Department by Counsel  and Witnesses, and 
to  make a  Special Report  to the  House  stating 
whether  any,  and  what,  advantages  and  dis­
advantages  would  result  to  the interests  of  the 
public, or  of  the  passengers  and  traders  using 
the  railways  of  the three  Companies  promoting 
the  Bill,  or of  the  persons  employed  by  those 
Companies,  if  the  powers  sought  by  the  Bill 
were  granted;  whether  any,  and  what,  safe­
guards are necessary  for  the protection  of  these 
special  and  general  interests,  and (in  the event 
of  the  Committee  finding  the Preamble  of  the 
Bill proved)  what  provisions, if  any, have  been 
inserted for this  purpose—(Mr.  Churchill); 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to be  made  to 
the  Question,  in  I.  1, by  inserting,  after  the 
word  "Committee,"  the  words  " t  o  receive  all 
Petitions  to be  heard  against  the Bill  in  Com­
mittee  w h i c  h  may be  deposited  not  later  than 
Five  days  before  the  first  Sitting of  the  Com­
mittee, and  to  hear  the  Petitioners  thereon."— 
(Mr.  Mond.) 

And  the Question being  proposed,  That  those 

70. 

words  be there inserted  ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made  to 
the  said  proposed  Amendment,  by  adding  at 
the  end  thereof  the  words "  if  the  Committee 
thinks  fit."—(Mr.  Ernest  Lamb.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  those 
words  be  there added :—It  was resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  those 

words, as amended, be there  inserted ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
O	  4 



104 

6 th—1th April. 

1909. 

[No.  86. 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Mond, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Ernest  Lamb : 


Tellers  for  the  ( Sir  George Doughty, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Remnant: 

}161. 

 27. 

) 
j

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the  Main  Question,  so  amended,  being 

put; 

Ordered,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
Committee  to  receive  all  Petitions  to  be  heard 
against  the  Bill  in  Committee  which  may  be 
deposited  not  later  than  Five  days  before  the 
first Sitting  of  the  Committee,  and to  hear  the 
Petitioners  thereon if the  Committee  thinks  fit;
to  consider  the  proposals of  the  Bill  in  relation 
to the  public  interest,  as well  as  to  the  various 
interests  directly  affected ;  to  hear  the  Board 
of  Trade and any other Government  Department 
by Counsel  and Witnesses, and to make a Special 
Report  to  the  House  stating  whether  any, and 
what, advantages and disadvantages would  result 
to the interests of the public, or of  the passengers 
and  traders  using  the  railways  of  the  three 
Companies promoting  the  Bill,  or of  the  persons 
employed  by  those  Companies,  if  the  powers 
sought  by  the  Bill  were granted;  whether  any, 
and  what,  safeguards  are  necessary  for  the 
protection  of  these  special  and general  interests, 
and  (in the  event of  the  Committee  finding  the 
Preamble  of  the  Bill  proved) what  provisions, 
if any, have  been inserted  for this  purpose. 

Army 
(Annual) Bill. 

Postponed  proceeding  on  Amendment  pro­

posed  on consideration  of  Clause  No. 4  ; 

Which  Amendment  was,  in  p.  3,  1.  17,  to 
leave  out  from  the  word  "  that "  to the  end  of 
1. 24—(Captain  Craig),—resumed. 

Question  put,  That  the  words proposed  to be 
left  out,  to  the  word  "  under,"  in  1.  20,  stand 
part of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Master  of Etibank : 

"I  . ..  

J

Tellers for  the/Captain  Craig,

Noes, 

[Mr.  Bowles: 

} 41. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  3,1.  20, 
after  the  word  "  State,' 
to  insert  the  words 
"  Commander-in-Chief or the Adjutant  General." 
—(Mr.  Bowles.) 

Question proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted: 

Clause  No.  5  (Amendment  of  44  & 45  Vict, 

c.  58,  s.  115). 

Amendment  proposed, in  p.  3,1.  39, to  leave 
out  the  word  " including,"  in  order to insert  the 
words  "which  shall  be  deemed  to  include."— 
(Captain  Craig.) 

Question  proposed, That  the word " including '* 
stand  part  of  the  Clause: — Amendment,  by 
leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  4,  1. 1,. 
after  the  word  "  other,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  road traction."—(Captain  Craig.)

Question  proposed,  That those  words be  there 

inserted  : 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Chairman  do report  Progress,  and ask leave 
to  sit  again—(Mr.  Seddon) :—Motion,  by  leave,, 
withdrawn. 

Question,  That  the  words  "  road  traction "  be 

there inserted, put, and  negatived. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  4,1.  10,, 
to leave out from the word  "  thereof "  to  the end 
of the  Clause.—(Captain  Craig.)

Question,  That  the  words  proposed  to be left 
out,  to the end of  1. 11, stand part of the  Clause, 
put, and agreed  to. 
Clause agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  6 (Amendment  of  44  &  45  Yict.. 

c.  58, s.  122 (6)  ). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  4,  1. 19, to  leave 
out  the word  "  part," in order  to insert the  word 
"  body."—(Captain  Craig.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "part"" 
stand  part  of  the  Clause  : —  Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause  agreed  to. 
Clause  No. 7 (Billeting in cases of  emergency).. 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  4,1.  25, to  leave 

out  the word "  distinctly."—(Captain  Craig.) 

Question proposed, That the word "  distinctly "" 
stand  part  of  the  Clause:  —  Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 4,1.  26, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  " S t a t e"   to  the 
word  "may,"  in  1. 28.—(Mr.  Hazleton.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left out stand part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the/ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Wednesday,  7th April  1909 : 

Yeas, 

I Master  of  Elibank : 

J" 

^^ 

19. 

Question  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Bowles, 

Yeas, 

(.Mr.  Remnant:  


]  31. 

Tellers  for the [Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

\ Master of  Elibank: 

Noes, 

} m.

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Hazleton,  


Noes, 

\ Mr.  Mooney: 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  5,1.  1, 
after  the word  "  occupiers," to  insert  the  words 
"and  owners."—(Captain  Craig.)

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane rose  in  his place  and 
claimed to move,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
Clause stand part  of the  Bill,  be now  put. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 

Clause  stand part of the  Bill, be  now put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the f Mr. Mitchell-Thomson,

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Remnant: 

Tellers for the/Mr.   Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

[Mr  .Fuller: 

J  21.. 

j  105­

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Master  of  Elibank : 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Bowles, 

\ 
J 

32. 

Noes, 

[Mr.  Remnant : 
Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause 

stand part of the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided., 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

[Master  of  Elibank : 


Tellers for the! Mr.  Bowles,  


Noes, 

I Mr.  Remnant : 

}104. 

36. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  5,1.  13, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  police"  to  the 
word  "  but," in  1.  17.—(Mr.  Mooney.) 

108. 

Question put, That  the words proposed  to  be 

left out  stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the [Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

t Captain  Norton : 

Noes, 

Tellers for the I Mr.  Mooney, 
I Mr.  Hazleton: 
Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 
Chairman  do report  Progress,  and  ask  leave to-
sit again.—(Captain  Craig.) 

\ ini 
J 
' 
j 
J 

23.. 

Question put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

­


No. 36.]  9 EDW. VII. 

Mil—1th  April 

105 


The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the ("Captain Craig, 
\Mr.  Remnant  :  


Yeas, 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

1 Captain Norton  : 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Franchise and 

15. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Franchise  and  Removal 
of  Women's  Disabilities  Bill; 

of 
Disabilities 

107. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time  BlU­

upon  Monday  the 26th  day  of this instant April. 

Clause agreed to. 
Clauses  No.  8 to  No.  11 agreed  to. 
A  Clause  (Limitation  of  Act)—(Mr.  Hugh

Lea)—brought  up, and read the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Clause be read  a second  time :—Motion  and 
Clause, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Schedule  1. 
Amendment  proposed, in  p.  9,  1.  6, to  leave 
out  the word  "Fourpence,"  in  order  to  insert 
the word  "  Eightpence."—(Mr.  Renmck.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  Four-
pence "  stand  part  of  the  Schedule  :—Amend­
ment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 
Schedule  agreed  to. 
Schedule  2 agreed  to. 
Preamble  agreed  to. 
Bill to be  reported. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed  the Chair ;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Way3  and  Means  reported, 
That the  Committee had  gone through  the  Bill, 
and  directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

A  Motion  was  made, and  the  Question  being 

put, That the  Bill  be now read  the third time ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yens  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
(Master  of.Elibank  : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the J Mr. John Ward, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Hazleton: 

1  87. 
i 
\  7. 
J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the third  time 

and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the Clerk  do carry  the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire  their  concurrencc. 

Sweated 
The  Order of  the day being read, for resuming 
Industries Bill.  t h e  adjourned Debate on the Amendment  which, 
upon  the  26th  day of  March last, was proposed 
to  be  made  to  the  Question, That  the  Sweated 
Industries  Bill be now read a second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  the 26th day  of this instant  April. 

Municipal 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Elections  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Elections 

Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  20th  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

Representation  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
o£ the  People  Committee  on the Representation  of  the  People 
BllL 

Bill; 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Thursday 
the 22nd  day of  this  instant April, resolve itself 
into the said  Committee. 

Purchase  of 
Land 
S S y S T ' ( E n g l a nd  and  Wales)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Purchase  of  Land 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  22nd  day  of  this  instant 
April. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking  Oaths Bill, 

into consideration  the  Oaths Bill,  as amended iu 
the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Monday  the  19th  day  of  this  

instant  April.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local  

Second  Reading of  the Local  Education  Autho-  Education  

f a S  ^ 
rities (Medical  Treatment)  Bill; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  Treatment) 

upon  Tuesday  the  20th  day  of  this 
April. 

instantBlU" 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pedlars Act® 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-  Amendment  

ment Bill; 

Ba'­

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sale  of  

Second  Reading  of  the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill;  Margarine 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  


upon  Tuesday  the  27th  day  of  this  instant 
April. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 


Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland lnland  

Revenue  Bill; 

T>-II 

Revenue  BiH, 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  the  19th day of this instant  April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Trade  Boards 

Second  Reading  of the  Trade  Boards  Bill; 

Bi"­

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Monday the  19th day of this instant  April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Board  t l ,e  Board of 
of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time BiU­

upon  Monday  the  19th day of this instant  April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Houses of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliameut,  Parliament 
Bill; 

BilK 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second time 
upon  Monday  the  19th day of  this instant  April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

Committee  on  Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.] ; 

Resolved,  That  this House  will, upon  Monday 
the  19th  day  of  this  instant April, resolve itself 
into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, £?wn. 
„  
&C.  B i ll  ; 

Bill. 

r , . ,, 

°  

D  Planning, &c. 

Resolved, That  this House  will, upon  Monday 
the  19th  day of  this  instant  April, resolve  itself 
into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Buildings and 

Second  Reading  of the Buildings and Engineer- ^n0fknse|r^g 
ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second time 
upon  Monday  the  19th day  of this instant ApriL 

p 







106 

5 th—6 th April. 

1909. 

[No. 36. 

London 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Electric 
Supply  Bill.  Second Reading  of  the London  Electric  Supply 

Bill ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 
upon  Monday the  19th day  of  this instant  April. 

Places of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Monday  the  19th day of  this instant  April. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited 

Trawling  in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
(Prerention)  Areas  (Prevention)  Bill; 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 
upon  Monday  the  19th day  of  this instant  April. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  taking 
Supply 
[22nd  March]  into consideration  the  Sixth  of  the  Resolutions 
Report 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day  of  March last,  were 
(Deferred 
reported from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the 
Resolution,) 
22nd day of  March last ; 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be taken 
into  further  consideration  upon  Monday  the 
19th day of this instant  April. 

Irish  Land 
Bill. 

Tbe  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  the  Irish  Land  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will, upon Monday 
the  19th day  of  this  instant April, resolve  itself 
into the  said  Committee. 

Indian 
Councils  Bill 
[Zards.J 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee on the  Indian  Councils  Bill  [Lords]; 
Resolved,  That this  House  will,  upon  Monday 
the  19th day  of  this  instant April,  resolve itself 
into the said  Committee. 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Board of Trade  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 
upon  Monday  the  19th  day  of  this instant April. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The Land Drainage  Provisional Order (No. 2) Land 

Bill  was, according  to Order, read a second time, provisional 
and committed. 

order  (No.   2) 
Bill. 
The  Land Drainage Provisional  Order (No. 3)  Land 
Bill  was, according  to Order, read a second  time, drainage 
and committed. 
' 

»  Provisional 

° 

Order  (No.   3) 
Bill. 

Mr.  Tennant presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  a Railway  Rates 

Provisional  Order  made  by  the  Board of  Trade 
under the Railway  and Canal  Traffic Act,  1888, Order 
relating  to  the  classification  of  merchandise (Weston, 
traffic, and the  Schedule  of maximum  rates  and Portishead 
charges  applicable  thereto,  of  the  Weston, Light 
Cievedon, and  Portishead  Light  Railways  Com- Railways)  Bill. 
pany :  And  the same  was read  the first time. 

Cievedon,  and 

and  Charges 
Provisional 

B i ll  1 5 0. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  

Examiners of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and  

be  printed.  


Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his  Edinburgh 

Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make  (j®a.st.  . 
out  a  new  Writ  for  the  electing  of  a  Member yy>it. 
to  serve  in  this  present  Parliament  for  the 
Burgh  of  Edinburgh  (East  Division),  in  the 
room  of  Sir  George  M'Crae,  who,  since  his 
Election  for  the  said  burgh, hath  accepted  the 
Office  of  Vice-President  of  the  Local  Govern­
ment Board for  Scotland.—(Master  of Elibank.) 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and  Public 

read;  and ordered  to  lie upon the Table. 

L 

•  Petitions. 
vide  Second 
Report. 

Mr. Hohhouse presented,—Return  to an Order,  National 
 ^  ^ 

dated  the  6th  day  of  this  instant  April,  for
a  Return  relative  to  the  National  Physical 
r 
L a b o r a t o r y. 


J 

, 

, 

N o.  95.  


Ordered, That the said Return  do lie  upon the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His  Licensing 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Statistics  as  to j^g181108' 
the  operation  and  administration  of  the  Laws 
relating  to  the sale of  Intoxicating  Liquors  for 
the year  1908. 

Committee  of  Supply  ; 

Ordered,  That the said  Paper  do lie upon  the 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Table. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Sittings of 
the  House. 

Resolved,  That this  House  do  meet this day  at 

Twelve  of the clock.—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.') 

And  it  being after half-past Eleven  of  the 
clock  on  Tuesday  evening,  Mr.  Deputy 
Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without 
Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing 
Order,  it  being  then  eighteen  minutes 
before  Six  of  the  clock  on  Wednesday 
morning, till this  day. 

[No.  37.] 

Wednesday, 1th April  1909. 
The  House  met  at  Twelve  of the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

©as Light and  f  yRDERED,  That  the  Gas Light  and Coke 
Coke Company  ^  Company  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Com­
Bl11' 

mittee, be taken into consideration upon Tuesday 
the 20th day  of  this instant  April. 

' 

Mr.  Buchanan  presented,  pursuant  to  the  East  India 
directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Return  of' (Loans  raised 
all Loans raised in England under the provisions 1  „ 
of  any  Acts  of  Parliament, chargeable  on  the 
Revenues  of  India,  outstanding  at  the  com­
mencement  of  the  half-year  ended  on  the 31st 
March  1909, with the rates of  interest and total 
amount  payable  thereon,  and  the  date  of  the 
termination  of  each  Loan,  the  debt  incurred 
during  the half-year, the  moneys raised  thereby 
during  the  half-year,  the  Loans  paid  off  or 
discharged  during  the half-year, and  the Loans 
outstanding  at  the  close  of  the  half-year; 
stating,  so  far  as  the  public  convenience  will 
allow, the  purpose or  service  for  which  moneys 
have  been raised during  the half-year. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and  be  printed. 

Mr.  Churchill presented,  pursuant  to  the  Light 

directions of several Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy  Railways  Act, 
of  Report  of  the  Proceedings  of  the  Board of 18d®; 
Trade under  the  Light  Railways  Act,  1896,  up  No. 97. 
to  the  31st  December  1908,  and  of  the  Pro­
ceedings  of  the  Light  Railway  Commissioners 
up to the same date. 

Copy  of  Twenty-sixth  Report  of  the  Comp-  Patents, 

troller  General  of  Patents,  Designs, and Trade  designs, and 
Marks,  with Appendices,  for the year  1908. 

Tra£e 

iNo«  9 8, 

No.  37.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

7 th—19 th  April 

107 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table;  and  be printed. 

same was ordered  to  be  read a second time upoi» 

Tuesday the  20th  day of' this instant April;  and  

to be  printed.  


Natal. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy of further Despatches relating 
to the  Trial  of  Dinizulu  and certain  Natives in 
Natal. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper do lie upon the 

Table. 

Royal 
Observatory 
(Edinburgh.) 

The,  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Nineteenth 
Annual  Report  of  the  Astronomer  Royal  for 
Scotland. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Deaths of 
Infants in 
Poor  Law 
Institutions. 
No. 99. 

Street 
Accidents 
caused  by 
Vehicles. 

Ordered,  That there be laid before this House 
a  Return  of  a  Memorandum  by  the  Local 
Government Board  on  Deaths  amongst  Infants 
in Poor  Law Institutions.—(Mr. Burns.) 

Mr.  Burns  accordingly  presented  the  said 

Return. 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Resolved, That  an  humble  Address  be  pre­
sented to  His Majesty, that He will be graciously 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before  this House  a Return  showing, for  Eng­
land  and  Wales,  the  number  of  Accidents 
resulting  in  death  or  personal  injury  known  to 
the police  to have  been caused  in  streets, roads, 
or public  places  by  the Vehicles  named  below, 
during  the  period  from  the  1st day  of  May to 
the 31st day  of December  1908, in the following 
form :— 

Description  of  Vehicle. 

11 

W-3 
H S 

CD  0> 

Tramcars. 

p  g 
O 
«  ft 

s | 
a  5 

  60 
fe
o -S 
§

o 
H 

s.o 
'3 
a
o

w
a 

Mr.  Burns,  supported  by  Mr. Masterman,  Election of 
presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Municipal  Cor- Aldermen in 
porations  Act, 1882, with respect  to  the right of 
Aldermen  to vote  in the Election  of  Aldermen :  Bill. 

And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be read a second  Bill  153.  

time  upon  Wednesday  the  21st  day  of  this 
instant  April;  and to be  printed.  


Municipal 
Boroughs 

Q 

The  Lord  Advocate,  supported  by  Mr. House Letting 

Solicitor  General for  Scotland, presented  a  Bill and Rating 
(Scotland) 
to amend  the Law  as  to  the  letting  and  rating BiU. 

of  small  Houses 
purposes  relating  thereto :  And  the  same  was  

ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Wed  

nesday  the 21st  day of  this  instant  April;  and  

to  be printed.  


in  Scotland,  and  for  other  Bill  154.  


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,—Return street 
to  an Address to  His Majesty, dated the 7th day Accidents 
of  this  instant  April,  for  Returns  relative  to vehicles.7 
Street Accidents  caused  by Vehicles. 

JQQ 

Ordered,  That the  said  Return  do lie upon the 

Table  ;  and  be printed. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn  Adjournment 

till  Monday  the  19th  day  of  this  instant April, (filter.) 
—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  ten  minutes  before  

Six  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  Monday  

the  19th day  of  this instant April. 


[No.  38.] 
Monday,  19th April  1909. 
The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three  of  the  clock.  


P R A Y E R S. 

THE  Ard^  Railways  Bill  was  read the third  Ards Railways 

time and passed. 

BU1­

Ordered,  That the Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 

( l)  (2)  (3) 

(4) 

(5) 

(6) 

(7) 

(8) 

(9) 

the Lords,  and  desire their  concurrence. 

—(Mr.  Herbert  Samuel.) 

The  Mountain  Ash  Urban  District  Council  Mountain Ash 
OouncilBfn '°t 

Bill  was read the third time and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

Housing  of 
the  Working 
Classes 
Bill. 

Bill  151. 

Mr,  Bowerman,  supported  bv  Mr.  Alden,
Mr.  Bell,  Sir  John Bethel!,  Mr." Nannetti, Mr. 
Steadman, Mr.  William Thome,  and  Mr.  Wiles,
presented  a Bill to amend the Law relating  to the 
Housing  of  the  Working  Classes;  to  empower 
local authorities to levy rates upon empty houses; 
to  establish fair-rent  courts;  and  to provide for 
the  establishment  of  public  health  and housing 
committees  of  county  councils,  with  further 
provision  with  respect  to  the  appointment  and 
duties  of  medical  officers  of  health:  And  the 
same was ordered to be  read a  second  time upon 
Tuesday  the 20th day  of this instant April;  and 
to  be printed. 

The  Northallerton  Water  Bill  was  read  the  Northallerton 

third  time  and  passed. 

Water Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Swinton  and  Mexborough  Gas  Board  Swinton and 
a^BoTi^ 

Bill  was read  the  third  time and passed. 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do  carry the  Bill to  Bill, 

the Lords, and  desire their concurrence. 

The  House proceeded  to  take  into  considera-  Preston, 
t.ion  the  Preston,  Chorley, and Horwich  Tram- Harwich*"'1 
ways  Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee. 

Tramways 

-Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read thethird  time. BiU-

Inter-
communion 
Bill. 

Bill  152. 

Sir  George Kekewich,  supported by  Sir  David 
Brynmor Jones, Mr.  Napier,  Mr.  Hay Morgan, 
Mr.  Nicholls, and  Mr.  Mallet,  presented  a  Bill 
to  amend  the  Law  ecclesiastical  with  respect 
to  Intercommunion  between  the  Church  of 
England and  other  Christian  Churches,  and for 
other  purposes  incidental  thereto:  And  the 

VOL.  164. 

The  Clevedon  Water  Bill  [Lords] was read a Cievedon 

second  time, and committed. 

Water Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Heckmondwike  and Liversedge  Gas Bill  Heckmond­

L 

J 

\Lords] was read a second time, and committed.  7?ke an!J 
Liversedge 
Gas Bill 
[Lords.] 

p  2 

' 



Lancashire 
and  Yorkshire 
and  North 
Eastern 
Railways  Bill 
[Lords.] 
Liskeard  and 
Looe  and 
Liskeard  and 
Caradon 
Railways 
(Vesting,  &c.) 

'  Bill  [Lords.]
Liverpool 
Corporation 
Bill  [ Lords.] 

Midland 
Kailway 
Bill 

[Lords.] 

United 
Kingdom 
Temperance 
and  General 
Provident 
Institution 
Bill  [  Lords.] 

Watford  and 

Railway  Bill. 

1 08 

5th—6th April. 

1909. 

[No.  36. 

The  Lancashire  and  Yorkshire

Eastern  Railways  Bill  [Lords]
second  time, and  committed. 

  and  North 
  Was  read  a 

The  Liskeard  and  Looe  and  Liskeard  and 
Caradon  Railways  (Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords] 
was read a second time, and  committed. 

Copy  of  Return  of  Proceedings  of  the  Irish  Irish  Land 
Land  Commission  under  the  Land  Law  Acts,  Commission 
the  Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts, 1883 to  1891, and  (-"ooeedmg8 
the  Land  Purchase  Acts,  during  the month  of 
February  1909. 

Copy of  Returns of  Local  Taxation  in  Ireland  Local 

for the year  1907-8. 

Taxation 
(Ireland) 
Ordered,  That  the said  Papers  do lie upon  the  Returns. 

_ 

_ 

J 

' 

Table. 

The  Liverpool  Corporation  Bill  \_Lords~\  was  Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  pursuant  to  Diseases of 

read  a second  time, and  committed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Midland  Railway  Bill 

[Lords]  be read  a second  time  to-morrow. 

The  United  Kingdom  Temperance  and  Gene­
ral  Provident  Institution  Bill  [Lords]  was read 
a second  time, and  committed. 

Ordered,  That  .the  Watford  and  Edgware 
Railway  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  ne^t. 

Westminster
S C u n u a­
tion,  &c.)  Bill
[Lords.]

next. 

»  Ordered, That  the  "Westminster  City  Council 
  (Superannuation,  Ac.)  Bill  [Lords]  be  read  a 
  second  time  upon  Monday  the  3rd  day  of  May 

Wirral 
Railway 
(Extension  of 
Time)  Bill 
[Lords.] 
London 
County 
Council 
(Tramways 
and  Improve­
ments)  Bill. 

London 
County 
Council 
(General 
Powers)  Bill. 

The  Wirral  Railway  (Extension  of  Time) 
[Lords]  was  read  a  second  time,  and 

Bill 
committed. 

A  Petition  of  the  London  County  Council, 
praying  that  provision  may  be  made  in  the 
London  County  Council  (Tramways  and  Im­
provements)  Bill  giving  further  powers  for  the 
purchase  of  part  of  a  tramway  authorised  by 
the  Tramway  Act,  1870, and  situate  within  the 
County  of  London,  was  presented,  and  read; 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills. 

A  Petition  of  the  London  County  Council, 
praying  that  provision  may  be  made  in  the 
London  County  Council  (General  Powers)  Bill 
giving  further powers with  regard  to  the  control 
and protection  of  the  Rotherhithe  and  Ratcliff 
Tunnel,  the  granting  of  pensions  to  certain 
officers  of  the  Feltham  Industrial  School,  and 
the  acquisition  of  certain  lands  at  Belvedere 
Road, was presented, and read ;  and  referred  to 
the  Examiners  of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

Public 
Petitions, 
Vide  Second 
Report. 

Parliamentary 
Papers 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 
Railway 

Accidents. 


Several  Public  Petitions  were presented, and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie  upon the  Table. 

The  following  Papers,  presented  by  His 
Majesty's  Command  during  the  Recess,  were 
delivered  to  the  Librarian  of  the  House  of 
Commons  during  the  Recess,  pursuant  to  the 
Standing  Order of  the  14th  August  1896  : — 

Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, 

Annual  Series,  Nos.'4188  to  4195. 

Copy  of  Returns of  Accidents  and  Casualties, 
as reported to the  Board  of Trade  by the  several 
Railway  Companies  in  the  United  Kingdom, 
during  th§ year  ending  31st  December  1908. 

Copy of Report of the Departmental Committee 
Poultry

appointed  by  the  Secretary  for  Scotland  to 
Breeding

^Departmental  inquire  into  and  report  upon  the  subject  of 
in  Scotland,  with  special 
Committee.)  Poultry  Breeding 

reference  to  the  efforts  of  the  Congested  Dis­
tricts  Board  to  promote  this  industry  in  the 
Highlands  and  Islands;  together  with  Minutes 
of  Evidence  and  Index. 

' 
the directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  fJ^™^^ 8 
of  Order,  No.  7675,  under  the  Diseases  of
Animals  Acts,  1894  to  1903,  dated  2nd  April 
1909, revoking  Foreign  Animals  (Amendment) 
Order  of  1908  (No.  2)  (No.  7603,  of  20th 
November  1908). 

0 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Secretary  Sir Edward  Grey presented, by  His  Trade  Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—-Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  j^j™1 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos. 4196  and
'  

4197. 


e n e s -

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His  Lunacy 
Majesty's  Command,  —  Copy  of  Fifty-first  (Scotland.) 
Annual  Report  of  the  General  Board  of  Com­
missioners  in  Lunacy  for  Scotland. 

Copy  of  Eleventh  Annual  Report  of  the  Congested 

Congested  Districts  Board  for  Scotland. 

° 

Districts 
(Scotland) 
Act,  1897. 

The  Lord  Advocate  also  presented,  pursuant  shop  Hours 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—  Act, 1901. 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Secretary  for 
Scotland  under the  Shop  Hours Act,  1904, dated 
31st  March  1909, providing  for  the early  closing 
of  certain  classes  of  Shops  in  the  Burgh  of 
Kirkcaldy. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Crown's 
directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament, —  Nominee 
A b s t r a ct  Account  of  the  Receipts and Payments  Accotmt­
of  the  Treasury  Solicitor,  in the year  ended 31st 
December  1908, in  the  administration  of  Estates 
on  behalf  of  the  Crown  under  the  authority  of 
the  Treasury  Solicitor  Act,  1876 ;  and  alpha­
betical  list  of  Intestates'  Estates  in  respect  of 
which  letters  of  administration  were  granted  to 
the  Treasury  Solicitor  as  Crown's  Nominee; 
and  of  other  cases  (partial  intestacies,  &c.)  in 
which  accounts  were  opened  in the  books  of  the 
Treasury  Solicitor  in  the same year  in  respect  of 
moneys received  by him  as  Crown's  Nominee. 

Account,  up  to  3lst  March  1909,  of  the  total  Greek Loan 

sums  issued  from  the  Consolidated  Fund,  pur- of  1898, 
suant  to  the  Greek  Loan  Act,  1898,  in respect 
of  the  Annuity  which  was  guaranteed  by  Her 
late  Majesty  for  the  purpose  of  facilitating  the 
raising  of  a  Loan  by  the  Government  of 
Greece,  and of  the  sums paid  in  or towards  the 
repayment  of  any money  so issued. 

Account,  up to  the 31st  March  1909, showing  Egyptian 
the  total  sums  issued  from  the  Consolidated  Guaranteed 
Fund, pursuant to the  Egyptian  Loan Act, 1885, L o an   of 
in  respect  of  the  Annuity  of  £315,000  which 
was  guaranteed  by  Her  late  Majesty  for  the 
purpose  of  facilitating  the raising  of  a  Loan  by 
the Government  of  Egypt,  and of  the sums paid 
in  or  towards  the  repayment  of  any  money  so 
issued. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do lie upon  the  

Table;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  the 
Crown's  Nominee  Account  be printed. 


 
 
 
 


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19 th  April 

109 

Union of
Iieneflces  Act
Pancras with
All Saints,
Gordon 
Square.) 
County  Courts
Act, 1888.

Government 
Departments 
Securities. 

The  following  Papers,  pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,  were  laid 
upon  the  Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House :— 

Copy  of  Scheme  under  the  Union of  Bene­
fices  Act,  1860,  for  effecting  an  union  of  the 
Benefices  of  Saint  Pancras  with  All  Saints,
Gordon  Square. 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Lord  Chancellor,
dated  1st  February  1909,  under  Section  45  of 
the  County  Courts  Act,  1888,  directing  that 
George  Berwick  Cope  shall  not  practise  as  a 
Solicitor. 

Ordered,  That  there  be laid before  this  House 
a  Return  of  the  amounts of  British  Government 
Securities  held  by  the  several  Government 
Departments  and  other  Public  Offices  on  the 
31st  day  of  March  1909,  specifying  whether 
held  in  England  or  Ireland  (in  continuation 
of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  161  of  Session 
1908)  :— 

And  the  Motion  being  opposed,  after  a  brief  Mr.  Speaker 

explanatory  statement  from  the  Member  who Q^^® 
made  the  Motion  and  from  a  Member  who (pursuant to 
opposed  it,  Mr.  Speaker  put  the  Question, pur- S.O. No. li.) 
suant to  Standing  Ord'er  No.  11. 

And  the  Question  was  agreed  to.  

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Harcourt,  Mr.  Burns,

Mr.  Buxton,  Mr.  Causton, Mr.  M'Kinnon  Wood,  

and  Mr.  Masterman do  prepare  and bring  in  the  

Bill. 
P 

P 

Mr.  Harcourt  accordingly  presented  a  Bill  London 

to  constitute  London  a  single  parliamentary  Elections  Bill,
borough,  and  for  purposes  incidental  thereto, 
and otherwise  to amend  the  Law  relating  to  the 
form  of  Lists  and  Registers  of  Voters  and  the 
holding  of Elections  in  London  :  And  the  same 
was read  the first time, and  ordered  to  be  read a 
second  time to-morrow;  and  to be  printed. 

155> 

The House, according to  Order, resolved itself  Indian 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Indian  Councils • Bill  ?°unSJl8®m 
[Lords.] 

[Lords^ 

Other  Securities.

(In  the  Committee.) 

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B-aS 

B  O 

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Annuities 
for  Terms 
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Exchequer
Bonds  and 
Treasury
Bills.

Clause  No.  1 (Amendment  of  constitution  of 

Legislative  Councils). 

Amendment proposed,  in  p.  2,  1. 5,  at the  end, 
to  add  the  words  "  Provided  that  no  British 
subject 
in  India  shall  be  disqualified  from 
being  elected  or  nominated  as  a member of  any
Legislative  Council  referred  to  in  this  section 
by  reason  of  his  having  been  deported  and 
imprisoned without having been charged  with and 
convicted  of  any  offence."—(Mr.  Mackarness.) 

Question,  That  those  words  be  there  added, 

put,  and  negatived. 

Another Amendment proposed,  in  p. 2,  1. 5, at 
the  end,  to  add  the  words  "  Provided  always 
that  in  the  Legislative  Councils  of  the  Governor 
General  and  of  the  Governors  of  Fort  Saint 
George  and  Bombay,  and  of  the  Lieutenant 
Governors  of  provinces,  the  number  of  official 
and  nominated  members  shall  in no  case  exceed 
that of  the  elected members."—(Dr. Rutherford.) 

Question,  That  those  words  be  there  added, 

put, and  negatived. 

Clause  agreed  to. 

—(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his 
Warwick 
County  (South  Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make 
vy pgij^jQ or 
Straiford-on- out  a  new  Writ  for  the  electing  of  a  Member 
to  serve  in  this  present  Parliament  for  the 
Avon 
County  of  Warwick  (South  Western  or  Strat­
Division) 
ford-on-Avon  Division),  in  the  room of  Captain 
T1 ' 
Malcolm  Kincaid-Smith,  who, since  his  Election 
for  the said county,  hath  accepted  the  Office  of 
Steward  or  Bailiff  of  His  Majesty's  Manor  of 
Nortbstead,  in  the  County  of  York.  —  (Mr. 
Joseph Pease.) 

Nurses 
(Registration)
Bill. 

Business of 
the  House 
(Indian 
Councils  Bill 
[  Lords].) 

Asylums 
Officers' 
Superannua­
tion  Bill. 

Loudon 
Elections. 

Ordered, That  the  Nurses  (Registration)  Bill 

be  read  a second  time  to-morrow. 

Ordered, That  the  Proceedings  on the  Indian 
Councils  Bill  [Lords], 
if  under  discussion  at 
Eleven of the clock this night, be not interrupted 
under  the  Standing  Order 
(Sittings  of  the 
House).—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Clause  No.  2  (Constitution  and  procedure  of 
Executive  Councils  of  Governors  of  Fort  Saint 
George  and  Bombay). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  2,  1.  8,  to  leave 
out the word  "  four," in  order  to  insert the  word 
"  three."—(Mr. Joynson-Hicks.) 

Question  put,  That  the  word  " f o u r"  stand 

part of  the  Clause. 

The  Select  Committee  on 

the  Asylums 
Officers'  Superannuation  Bill  was  nominated  of 
Sir  William  Collins,  Mr.  Hazleton,  Mr. John 
Henderson,  Mr, Horniman, Mr.  William Priestley,
Mr.  Thomas Frederick Richards,  Mr.  Roch,  Mr. 
Stanier, and  Sir John  Batty  Tuke. 

Ordered, That  the  Committee  have power  to 

send for persons,  papers,  and  records. 

Ordered,  That  Five  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being
proposed,  That  leave  be given  to  bring  in a  Bill 
to  constitute  London  a  single  parliamentary
borough,  and  for  purposes  incidental  thereto, 
and otherwise  to amend  the  Law  relating  to  the 
form  of  Lists  and  Registers  of  Voters  and 
the  holding  of  Elections  in  London  —  (Mr. 
Harcourt);

VOL.164. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

1 
/ 
Tellers for  the f Sir  Frederick  Banbury,  1  

J 

(Master  of  Elibank: 

I Mr.  Rawlinson: 

Noes, 

Teas, 

133.

30.

Clause  agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  3 amended,  and  agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  4  (Power  to  extend  business  ot  


Legislative  Councils). 

Amendment proposed,  in  p. 2,  1.  29,  after  the 
words  "  Lieutenant  Governor,"  to  insert  the 
words  "  or  Lieutenant  Governor  in  Council."— 
(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 3,1. 7, at 
the  end,  to  add  the  words  "  Provided  that  all 
such  rules  shall,  before  receiving  sanction  as 
p  3 









110 	

19 th April. 

1909. 

[No.  38. 

required  under  this  subsection,  be  open  to  dis­
cussion  as matters of  general  public  interest.*'— 
(Mr. Smeaton.) 

Question,  That  those  words  be there  inserted, 

put, and  negatived. 
Clause  agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  5 (Power  to  make  regulations). 
An  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  3,  1.  17, 
at  the  end,  to  add  the  words  "  Provided  that 
the  regulations  governing  such  elections  shall, 
after  providing,  if  necessary,  for 
important 
minorities  and  special  constituencies,  provide 
for  adequate representation  of  the  general  popu­
lation  by  means  of  territorial  electorates  based 
on  the  village  communal  system."—(Sir  Henry
Cotton.) 

Question,  That  those  words  be  there  added, 

put, and  negatived. 

Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  6  (Laying  of  regulations,  &c. 

before  Parliament). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,  1.  18,  to  leave 
out  from  the  word  "  shall"  to  the  end  of  the 
Clause,  in order  to  add  the  words  "  in  so far  as 
they  require  the  approval  of  the  Secretary  of 
State in  Council  be  laid  before  both  Houses  of 
Parliament,  and  shall  not  receive  the  approval 
of  the  Secretary  of  State  in  Council  until  they 
have  lain  for  forty  days  on  the  Table  of  both 
Houses,  nor shall  the same receive  such  approval 
if  either  House  within  the  said  period  of  forty 
days  passes  a  Resolution  disapproving  thereof, 
but  without  prejudice  to  the  making  of  new 
proclamations,  regulations,  and  rules."—(Sir 
Henry Cotton.') 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause  : — 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause  agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  7  agreed  to. 
A  Clause  (Power  to  constitute  provincial 
executive  councils)—(Mr.  Hobhouse)—brought
up, and  read  the first time. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill;  	

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Secretary  of 
the  Board  of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Revenue  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

Committee  on  Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.]  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply  Electric 
Bill  ; 

Supply  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assistant 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster Genera]  Bill. 
General  Bill; 

Postmaster 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, Town 
&c.  Bill  ; 

. 

Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Buildings  and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Buildings  and  Engineer- Engineering 
Works  Bill. 
ing  Works  Rill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  bs  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill ; 

(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

to-morrow. 

Clause  be read  a second  time. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Master of Elibank : 

1118. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Trawling  in 

Second  Reading  of  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited  Prohibited 
Areas  (Prevention)  Bill  ; 

Areas 
(Prevention) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time Bill. 

Tellers  for  the > Earl  of  Ronaldshay, 
(Mr. Meysey-Thompson 

Noes, 
Clause  added. 
Schedules  1 and  2 agreed  to. 
Bill,  as amended,  to be  reported. 

to-morrow. 

22. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee had gone through the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  upon 
Monday  next;  and  be  printed. 

Bill  156. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  taking Supply 

into  consideration  the  Sixth  of  the  Resolutions Li2nl  March] 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day  of  March  last, were  (Leferred 
reported  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the  Resolution.) 
22nd  day  of  March  last; 

Report 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 
into further  consideration  upon Wednesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish  Land 

Committee  on the  Irish  Land  Bill; 

Resolved, That  this House  will, upon  Monday 

next,  resolve itself into the  said  Committee. 

Kill. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Board of 


Second  Reading  of  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill; 

Trade  Bill.  


Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  


to-morrow. 


Trade Boards 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Supply. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Trade  Boards  Bill; 

Committee  of  Supply  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Resolved, That this House  will,  upon  Wednes­
day  next, resolve  itself  into  the said  Committee. 

No.  38.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

19 th—20th  April.  	

I ll 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,

resolve itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Ireland  under  the  Children  Act,  1908,
of 
regulating  the  Procedure  of  Courts  of  Summary
Jurisdiction. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Papers  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Cinematograph  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
BlU-

Second  Reading  of  the  Cinematograph  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Adjournment. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn.— 

(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after  Ten  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till 
to-morrow. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant  Shop  Hours 

to the directions of several Acts of Parliament,—  Act>190i­
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
County  of  Stafford  under  the Shop  Hours  Act,
1904, and  confirmed  by  the  Secretary  of  State 
for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the  hours  of 
closing  for  certain classes  of  Shops  in  the  Leek 
Urban  District. 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the Polling
County  of  Dorset,  altering  the  Hampreston  and Districts 
Colehill  Polling  Districts  in the  Eastern  Parlia- Dorset.)
mentary  Division  of  the  county. 

(County  of

[No.  39.] 

Tuesday, 20th April  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

Copy  of  Scheme  for  the  regulation  of  hours Factory  and 

of  employment  and  intervals for  meals  and rest Workshop
(Schemes
for  workers  in  the  Redcote  Convent,  BitterUe, regulating
Hants, approved  by  the  Secretary  of  State  for Hours of 
the  Home  Department,  in  pursuance  of  Section Employment,
5  (2)  (a)   of  the  Factory  and  Workshop  Act, Charitable
1907, in  substitution  for  the  Scheme  approved Institutions.) 
on  30th July  1908. 

&c. in

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers do lie  upon  the 

P R A T E R S. 

Table. 

Gas  Light  and  T H  E  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for taking 
Coke  Company  JL  into  consideration  the  Gas  Light  and  Coke 
BlU-

Company  Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon  Tuesday  next. 

London  and 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
North  Western Second  Reading  of  the  London  and  North 
Railway  Bill.  W e s t e rn  R a i l w ay   Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Great  Western  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Railway 
Second  Reading  of  the  Great  Western  Railway
(General 
Powers)  Bill.  	 (General  Powers)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Kilkenny, 
Castlecomer,  Second  Reading  of  the  Kilkenny,  Castlecomer,
and  Athy
Railway  Bill.  and  Athy  Railway  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Midland 
Railway  Bill  Second  Reading  of  the  Midland  Railway  Bill
'[Lords.] 

[Lords']; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

A  Bill  to  regulate  the expenditure  of  money
London 
County 
by  the  London  County  Council  on  capital
Council 
(Money)  Bill.  	 account  during  the current  financial period,  and 
the raising  of  money  to  meet such  expenditure, 
and for other purposes, was  presented,  and  read 
the  first time ;  and referred  to  the  Examiners  of 
Petitions  for  Private  Bills. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Second  

Report. 


Banking  and 
Railway 
Statistics 
(Ireland.) 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read;  and  ordered  to  lie upon  the  Table.

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by His  Majesty's  Com-
mand,—Copy  of  Report  on  the  Banking  and 
Railway  Statistics  of  Ireland  for  the  halt-year
ended  31st  December  1908. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Board  of 
Command, —Copy  of  Regulations  made  by  the  Education. 
Board  of  Education  as  to  Certificates  of  School 
Attendance  for  the  purpose  of  Section  118  of 
the  Children  Act,  1908. 

-

— 

Mr.Runciman  also presented, pursuant  to  the  Naval  and 
directions of  several Acts of  Parliament,—Copies  Marine  Pay 
anandd Pensions
  PanamtiD
—  — 
-
of  Orders	  in  Council  under  the  Naval  and Act,  1865.
Marine  Pay  and  Pensions  Act,  1863,  dated 
2 nd  April  1909.  approving  Memorials  of  the 
Lords  Commissioners  of  the  Admiralty  praying
sanction  to— 

-	
— 

--

*

(1)  Extra	  Pay  to  Royal  Marines  employed  

at  the  Royal  Marine  Clothing  Dep6t,

Malta  ;  


(2)  Payment  in advance  of  Wages  of  Seamen  

and Marines when granted  leave of absence ; 

(3)  Payment  of certain  Store  Allowances  and  

for  living  under 

"  Hard-lying  Money  " 
special  conditions;  


(4)  Allowances  to  Senior Accountant  Officers  

of Depot Ships for Torpedo-boat Destroyers ; 


(5)  Allowances  to  Cooks	  in  charge  of  Gene­

ral  Messes.  


Copy  of  Order  in  Council  under  the  Naval  Naval Savings 

Savings Banks  Act,  1 8 6 6,  dated  2nd April  1 9 0 9,   ®a„nks  Act> 
approving  a  Memorial  of  the  Lords  Commis­
sioners  of  the Admiralty  praying  sanction  to  a  

provision  by  which depositors  in  Naval  Savings  

Banks,  discharged  or  promoted  prior  to  26th  

October  1906,  may withdraw  their  deposits  with  

interest. 


Copies  of  Orders  in  Council  under  the  Merchant 
Merchant  Shipping  Act,  1 8 9 4,  dated  2nd  A p r il   sapping  Act, 
1909,  (1)  confirming  Pilotage  Byelaws  made  1894* 
by  the  New  Ross  Harbour  Commissioners;  (2)
confirming  an Act  of  the  Parliament  of  New 
South  Wales  entitled  the  Sydney  Harbour 
Trust  and  Navigation  Amendment  Act,  1908,
varying  certain  provisions  of  the  Merchant 
Shipping  Act,  1894. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Children  Act,  Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
1908. 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—-Copy  of 
Provisional  Rules,  made by  the  Lord Chancellor 

VUL.  164. 

. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His  Police  

Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Fifty - first (Scotland.) 


p  4  




112 

20th  April. 

1909. 

[No.  30. 

Annual  Report  of  His  Majesty's  Inspector  of 
Constabulary  for  Scotland, for  the year  1908. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

British 
Museum. 

Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return  to  an Order, 
dated  the  25th  day  of  February  last,  for  a 

No.  102.

  Return  relative  to the British  Museum. 

Ordered, That the  said Return  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Treaty  Series
(No.  9,1909.)

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
  jjis  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Convention 
between  the  United  Kingdom  and  Mexico  sup­
plementary  to  the  Parcel  Post  Convention  of 
25th  February  1897.  Signed  at  Mexico,  1st 
December  1908.  Ratifications  exchanged  at 
Mexico,  13th  March  1909. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  A. 
Licensed 
Premises 
(Election 
Days)  Closing 
Bill. 

Mr. Fenwick reported  from  the  Committee  of 
Selection  ;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol­
lowing  Member  from  Standing  Committee  A 
(in  respect  of  the Licensed  Premises  (Election 
Days)  Closing  Bill)  : —  Mr.  David  Alfred 
Thomas-,  and  had  appointed  in  substitution 
(in  respect  of  the  said  Bill):  Mr.  Solicitor 
General. 

Standing
Committee A.

Mr. Fenwick further  reported  from  the  Com­
to  Standing 

  m i t t ee   ,  T h at 

t h ey  h ad 

a ( 3 d ed  

Licensed
(Election
Days)  Closing
Bill.

Committee  A  the  following  Fourteen  Members 
(in  respect  of  the Licensed  Premises  (Election 
Days)  Closing  Bill)  : — M r  .  Charles  Roberts, 
  Mr.  Stewart - Smith,  Mr.  Russell  Rea,  Mr. 
Ivor  Herbert,  Mr.  Whitwell 
Pickersgill,  Sir 
Wilson,  Mr.  Robert  Harcourt,  Mr.  Stanley
Wilson,  Mr.  Renwich, Mr.  Younger, Mr. Samuel 
Roberts,  Mr.  Shackleton,  Mr.  Fenwick,  Mr. 
Haviland-Burke,  and  Mr. Nolan. 

Standing
Committee  B.

M r.   Fenwick further  reported  from  the  Com­
  m U t ee   .  T b at  t h ey  h ad   ^charged  the  following 
Member from  Standing Committee B (in  respect 
Under  Sheriffs of the  Under  Sheriffs  (County  Boroughs )  (Ire-
land)  Bill)  : — M r.  Solicitor  General;  and "had 
CConnty 
(Ireland)  Bill,  appointed  in substitution  (in  respect  of  the said 

Bill):  Mr.  Attorney  General  for  Ireland. 

Mr.  Fenwick further reported  from  the  Com-
Standing 
Committee  B.  mjttee  ;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing 
Committee  B  the  following  Thirteen  Members 
Under  Sheriffs  (in  respect  of  the  Under  Sheriffs  (County 
Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill)  :—Mr.  Glendinning, 
(County
  Marquess  of  Hamilton,  Mr.  Augustine  Roche, 
n^l^dVBill
j0yCe^  Mr.  Sloan, Mr.  Power,  Mr. Edward 
. 
(. re  an
Barry,  Mr.  Condon, Mr.  Cullinan, Mr.  Duffy s 
Mr.  Kennedy, Mr. Delany,  and  Mr. Hugh  Law. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  six  months."  —  (Mr. 
Watson Rutherford.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  "  now "  stand  part  of  the  Question  :—And 
a Debate  arising thereupon ; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  put,  That  the  Debate  be now  adjourned 
— ( T he  Prime  Minister)  :—It  was  resolved  in 
the  Affirmative. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trawling  in 
Second  Reading  of  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited  ^Mbited 
Areas  (Prevention)  Bill  ; 

(Prevention) 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

1 ' 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day  six  months," —  (Mr. 
Esslemont.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 

"  now "  stand  part of the  Question  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for  the J" Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
[ Master  of  Elibank :

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the (Mr.  Esslemont, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Guy  Wilson: 

So  it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

And  the  Main  Question  being  put; 

143. 

\ 
) 
1  IA 
/ 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time  :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  a  second 
time. 

A  Motion  was  made,  and the  Question  being 
put, That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a  Committee 
of  the  whole  House—(Mr.  Pirie)  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for the (Mr.  Pirie, 

Yeas, 

) 
\.Sir Frederick  Banbury  :  J 

_ 

Tellers for the/Mr.   Joseph  Pease, 
(Master  of  Elibank: 

Noes, 

VJ^J 
I 

So  it passed  in  the  Negative. 

The  Bill  was  committed  to  a Standing  Com­

mittee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Board  of 

Second  Reading  of the  Board  of  Trade  Bill;  

Trade  Bill. 

Sunday
Closing
(Shops) Bill.

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time, to­
morrow,  the  Sunday  Closing  (Shops)  Bill  was 
r e a dj  a nd   discharged. 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time  :—And  a Debate arising thereupon; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  the  11th  day  of  May  next. 

Houses of
^armmen

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  .the 
s e C 0nd  Reading  of  the  Houses  of  Parliament 
Bill; 

And  it being  Eleven  of the  clock,  the  Debate 

stood  adjourned. 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be  resumed  upon 

Monday  next. 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second time ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Board  the B o a rJ   of 
of Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

S t e f f i es 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "now," 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time Bl11' 

to-morrow. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
No.  39.]  9  ED W.  VII. 

20th  April. 

113 

Assistant 
Postmaster 
General  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 
General  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Municipal 
Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Elections  Elections  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

upon  Friday  next. 

London 
Elections  Bill,  Second  Reading  of  the  London  Elections  Bill: 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 

Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Education  Autho­
rities  (Medical  Treatment)  Bill; 

(Medical"3 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time Treatment) 

to-morrow. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill.  Revenue  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Inter-

Second  Reading  of the  Intercommunion  Bill; 

communion 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances. 
&c.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Nurses 

Second  Reading  of  the  Nurses  (Registration)  Registration) 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Buildings and 
Engineering  Second  Reading  of  the Buildings  and  Engineer-
Works  Bill. 

ing  Works  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Coroners' 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coroners'  Inquests  Bill;  Inquests BiU. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

upon  Monday  the  17th  day  of  May  next. 

Places of 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Worship 
(Enfranchise- Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
ment)  Bill. 

(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Registration  of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Registration  of  Nurses Curses 
(Scotland) 
(Scotland)  Bill;
" W I " 
BiU. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee of  Ways  and  Means ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Police  Super-

Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Superannuation ™nu®tK)° 
(Scotland)  Bitlj 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Cinemato-
graph  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  taking  Oaths Bui. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Cinematograph  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-mOrrow. 

into consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as amended in 
the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Outdoor  Relief  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the  Outdoor  Relief  Friendly 
Friendly 
Societies 
Societies  (Scotland)  Bill; 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Episcopal 
Second  Reading  of  the  Episcopal  Endowments  Endowments 
Bill; 

Blll> 

*  

P 

upon  Tuesday  the  18th day  of  May  next. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Grocers' 
Licences 
(Abolition) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Grocers'  Licences 

Second  Reading  of 
(Abolition)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  the  18th day  of  May  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Education 
(England and   g e c o n ( i  R e a d i ug   Q f  the Education  (England  and 
Wales). Bill. 

W a l e g ) B i U; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sea Fisheries 

Second  Reading  of  the  Sea  Fisheries  Regula­
tion  (Scotland)  Bill; 

^ 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Contamination 

Second  Reading  of  the  Contamination  of  Child- g® b i l d r ea 
ren  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Road Traffic 
BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Prohibitioa>f 

Second  Reading  of the-Road  Traffic  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

Second  Reading  of  the  Prohibition  of  Vivi- Vivisection' 
section  Bill  ; 

1 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Death 
Certificates 
(Charges)  Bill.  ( C h a r g e g) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Death  Certificates 

fim  

.  S 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Shops BiU. 

Second  Reading of  the  Shops  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Tuesday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

upon  Monday  next. 

Q 

114 

20th—21st  April 

1 9 0 9. 

[No.  40. 

Tbe  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented,  and  Public 

Pedlars Acts 
Amendment 
Bill. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend­
ment  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Public  Health

Amendment

(Water

nights)  Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
S e c o nd   Beading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Railways

mi 

°U


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  Second Reading  of  the  Railways  (Eight  Hours) 

Bill; 

read  ;  and  ordered to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

videSecond 
Report. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Trade  Reports 

His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  (Annual 
and  Consular Reports, Annual  Series, No.  4198.  Series > 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr. Burns  presented,  pursuant  to  the  direc-  Metropolitan 
tions of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy of  Annual  Water  Board. 
Report  of  the  Metropolitan  Water  Board,  and  No. 103. 
Abstract  of their  Accounts,  for  the  year  ended 
31st  March  1908. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  the  7th  day  of May  next. 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

Cork City 
Writ. 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do 

issue  his 
Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown  in  Ireland, 
to  make out  a  new  Writ  for  the  electing  of  a 
Member  to serve  in  this present  Parliament  for 
the  City  of  Cork,  in  the  room  of  William 
O'Brien,  Esquire, who, since his Election  for  the 
said city,  hath  accepted  the  Office  of  Steward 
or  Bailiff  of  His  Majesty's  Three  Chiltern 
Hundreds  of  Stoke, Desborough,  and  Burnham, 
in  the  County  of  Buckingham.—(Mr.  Patrick 
O' Brien.) 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit  till  six  minutes  after  Eleven  of  the 
clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

Private  Bills 
[Lords]
(Standing 
Orders  not 
previously 
inquired  into 
complied 
with.) 

[No.  40.] 

Wednesday, 21 st  April  1909. 
The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions 
in  the  case  of  the 
for  Private  Bills,  That 
following  Bills,  originating  in  the  Lords,  and 
referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof,  the 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into, 
and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have  been 
complied  with,  viz.:— 

South  Lincolnshire  Water  Bill  [Lords]. 
Malvern  Hills  Bill  [.Lords]. 

Ordered, That  the  Bills  be read  a second  time. 

Provisional 
Order  Bills 
(no  Standing 
Orders 
applicable.) 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the case  of  the  following 
Bill,  referred  on the First  Reading  thereof,  no 
Standing  Orders  are applicable,  viz.  :— 

Local  Government Provisional  Order  (Poor 

Law)  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

North  and 
South  Shields 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the North and  South  Shields 

S a  y  Bill.

  Electric  Railway  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Waterford 
Harbour  Bill. 

The  Order made  upon  Monday  the  29th  day 
of  March  last,  That  the  Waterford  Harbour 
Bill  be committed,  was read,  and  discharged. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Public 
Resolution  of  the  House  of  Commons  of  the Accounts 
4th  March  1879,—Copy  of  Treasury  Minute,  ( A™ y 
dated 14th April  1909, authorising the temporary 
application  of surpluses  on  certain  Army  Votes 
for  the  year  1908-9  to  meet  excesses  on  other 
Army  Votes for  the  same  year. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

The following  Papers,  pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,  were  laid 
upon  the  Table  by the  Clerk  of the  House  :— 

Reports  of  the  Chief  Registrar  of  Friendly Friendly 
Societies, 
Societies,  for  the  year  ending  31st  December  Workmen's 
1908,  on  Friendly  Societies,  Workmen's  Com- Compensation 
pensation  Schemes,  Industrial  and  Provident Schemes, 
Industrial  and 
Societies,  and Trade  Unions. 
Provident 
Societies,  and 
Trade  Unions. 
No.  105. 

Copy  of  Fourteenth  Annual  Report  by  the Building 
Chief  Registrar  of  Friendly  Societies  of  the Societies. 
Proceedings of the Registrars under the  Building  No. 106. 
Societies  Acts,  with  an Abstract  of  the  Annual 
Accounts  and  Statements  of  Societies  for  the 
year  1908. 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers  be  printed. 

Ordered, That there be laid before  this House  National 
a  Copy of  Report of  the Director of  the National  Gallery 
Gallery  for  the  year  1908,  with  Appendices.— (RePort0 
(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

James Puckering  Gibson, Esquire, Member for  New  Membersl 

the  Burgh  of  Edinburgh  (East  Division),  was svrorn­
sworn. 

Edward  George  Hemmerde,  Esquire,  K.O., 
Member  for  the  County  of  Denbigh  (Eastern 
Division),  was  sworn. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee  of Selection 
Selection  ;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol- (Standing 
lowing  Member  from Standing Committee  A  :—  Standing 
Mr.  Samuel Roberts ;  and had  appointed  in  sub-Committee  A. 
stitution  (in  respect  of  the  Licensed  Premises Licensed 
Premises 
(Election  Days)  Closing  Bill):  Mr.  Oddy. 
(Election 
Days)  Closing 
Bil). 

Committees.) 

Mr.  Fenwick  further  reported  from  the  Com-Standing 
mittee;  That  they  had.  added  the  following Committee  B. 
Members  to  Standing  Committee  B  (in  re­
spect  of  the  Under  Sheriffs  (County  Boroughs)  Under  Sheriffs 
(Ireland)  Bill):  — M r.  Rees  and  Mr.  John  (County 
O'Connor. 

Boroughs) 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

Mr.  Fenwick further  reported  from  the  Com- Standing 
mittee  ; That  they  had discharged  the  following Committee  C. 
Member  from  Standing  Committee  C  (in  re­
spect  of  the  Bastardy  B i l l ) : — S ir  Edward  Bastardy  Bill 
Strachey ;  and  had  appointed  in  substitution 

 
 
 
 
No.  40.]  Y EDW.  Y IL 

21 st April. 
115 

(in  respect  of  the  said  Bill)  :  Mr.  Solicitor  duction  of  a  Bill  to  disestablish  and disendow
General. 
the  Church  in  Wales  until  the  Report  of  the 
Mr. Fenwich  further  reported  from  the  Com- Royal  Commission  has  been  published  and 
circulated "—(Mr. Bridgeman),— instead thereof.

Standing 
Committee  0 .   m ; t t e e .  That  they  had  added  to  Standing
Committee  C  the  following  Fifteen  Members 

Bastardy  Bill,  (in  respect  of  the  Bastardy  Bill) :—Mr. Arnold  proposed  to  be 

And  the  Question  being put, That  the words 
left  out  stand  part  of  the

Herbert,  Mr.  Maclean,  Mr.  Lehmann,  Mr.  Question ;
Molteno, Mr.  Ellis  Davies,  Mr. Atherley-Jones,
Mr.  Bertram,  Mr.  M'Kean,  Mr.  Ginnell,  Sir 
William Anson,  Mr.  Gibbs, Mr. Hay,  Mr. Arthur  The  Yeas  to the  Right;
Henderson, Mr.  John  Johnson,  and  Sir  Robert  The  Noes  to the Left. 
Hermon-Hodge. 

The  House divided. 

Message  from 
the  Lords. 

Worksop
Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Great 
Yarmouth 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered, That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by 
one of  their  Clerks, as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Act  to  sanction and confirm  the  construction  by
the Worksop  Waterworks  Company  of  existing
works;  to  authorise  that  Company  to  raise 
additional  capital,  and  for  other  purposes ;  to 
which the Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Act  for  enabling  the  Mayor,  Aldermen,  and 
Burgesses of the Borough of  Great  Yarmouth to 
make  further  provision  for  the  accommodation 
of  the  fish  trade  in  the  borough  ;  for  altering
the area comprised in the Burgh Castle  Separate 
Drainage  District,  and  for  other  purposes;  to 
which the  Lords desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

Durham 
(County) 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Act  to  confer further  powers  upon  the  County 
SuppVy°BmWer of  Durham  Electric  Power  Supply  Company, 
and  for  other  purposes ;  to  which  the  Lords 
[Lords.]
desire the concurrence of this  House. 

Worksop
Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Worksop  Water  Bill  [Lords] was read 

the first time. 

Orderel,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Tellers for thef Mr. Joseph  Pease,

Yeas, 

Tellers for theJ  Hood,

Noes, 

1 Master of  Elibank  : 
Sir Alexander Acland-
»(Viscount  Valentia :

262. 

I 
I  90. 
J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the  Main  Question  being  put; 

Ordered,  That  leave  be  given  to  bring  in  a 
Bill  to  terminate  the  Establishment  of  the 
Church  of  England  in  Wales  and  Monmouth­
shire, and  to  make  provision  in  respect of  the 
Temporalities  thereof, and for other purposes  in 
connection  with the matters aforesaid :  And that 
the  Prime  Minister,  Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer,  Mr.  M'Kenna,  Mr.  Harcourt,  Mr. 
Solicitor  General,  and  Mr.  Herbert  Lewis  do 
prepare and  bring  it in. 

The  Prime  Minister  accordingly  presented  a  Established 

Bill  to  terminate  the  Establishment  of  the  Church 
Church  of  England  in  Wales  and  Monmouth-
shire,  and  to  make  provision  in respect  of  the 
Temporalities  thereof, and for other purposes  in 
connection  with the matters  aforesaid :  And  the 
same was read thefirst,time,  and  ordered  to  be 
read a second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and to 
be  printed. 

' 

BlIU 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Election  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Election  of  Aldermen ^tde!"n?enlin 
in  Municipal  Boroughs  Bill; 

Boroughs  Bill. 

„ 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second  time  


to-morrow. 


Great 
Yarmouth 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Great  Yarmouth  Corporation  Bill 

[.Lords] was read  the first time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions  for Private  Bills. 

The  Order  of  the  day  beinga  read,  for  the  House  Letting

Second  Reading  of  the House  Lettingw  and  ^ d  Rating
(Scotland)
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill; 
BiU. 

° 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Durham 
(County)
Klectnc  Power
Supply  Bill
[Lords.]

The Durham (County) Electric Power Supply

Bill  rLords]  was read the first time. 

L 

J 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Hours of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen)
BiU. 

Established 
Church 
(Wales.) 

Ordered, That the Hours  of  Labour  (Surface­

men) Bill be read a second time  to-morrow. 

A  Motion  was  made, and the  Question  being
proposed, That  leave  be given  to  bring  in a Bill 
to  terminate  the  Establishment  of  the  Church 
of  England  in  Wales  and Monmouthshire, and 
to make provision in respect of  the Temporalities 
thereof,  and  for  other  purposes in  connection 
with  the  matters  aforesaid  —  (The  Prime 
Minister); 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
"  That"  to the end of  the Question, and  adding
the words  "  this House, recognising  the  embar­
rassment to which the Government are admittedly 
exposed  in  the  framing  and  conduct  of  the 
measure, owing to the absence of official informa­
tion  on the questions which have been  submitted 
to  the  Royal  Commission  on  the  Church  in 
Wales,  declines  to  give  leave  for  the  intro-

VoL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking  Supply

into  consideration  the  Sixth  of  the Resolutions ^2e2n0"Iarch] 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day  of  March  last, were  (Deferred 
reported  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the  Resolution.)
22nd day  of  March  last; 

Ordered, That  the  said Resolution  be  taken 

into further consideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Supply. 

Committee  of  Supply; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,

resolve itself into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of Agriculture  and Fisheries Bill; 

a^BUsherfes 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time BlU­

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Assistant 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster Postmaster
AanAMtll  Uil I 
Genera   BilL

_  _ 

° 

General  Bill;

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Q  2 

1 16 

21 st  April 

1909. 

[No. 40. 

London 
Elections  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the London  Elections  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Customs  and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill  ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

Buildings  and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Places  of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways and  Means ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolye  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Cinematograph  Bill; 

Closure 
claimed,  but 
Mr.  Speaker 
withholds  his 
assent. 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now read  a 
second  time  :^-And  a  Debate  arising  there­
upon ; 

Mr.  Clongh rose  in  his  place  and  claimed  to 
move,  That  the  Question  be  now  put;  but 
Mr.  Speaker  withheld  his  assent, and  declined 
then  to  put  that  Question:—Then  the  House 
resumed  the  Debate. 

And  it being  a quarter  of  an hour  after  Eight 
of  the  clock,  further  proceeding  was  postponed 
without.  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing 
Order  No.  4. 

Merchant 

(Immunity 
during  War.) 

Closure 
claimed,  but 
Mr,  Speaker 
withholds  his 
assent. 

A  Motion  was made,  and  the  Question  being 
proposed, That, in the  opinion  of  this  House, it 
should  be  a  principle  of  naval  warfare  that 
enemy  merchant  vessels,  other  than  carriers  of 
contraband,  should  be  immune  from  capture— 
(Mr.  Jowett) :—And  a  Debate  arising  there­
upon ; 

Mr.  Frederick Edwin Smith rose  in  his  place 
and claimed  to  move,  That the  Question  be  now 
put;  but  Mr.  Speaker  withheld  his  assent, and 
declined  then  to  put  that  Question  :—Then  the 
House  resumed  the  Debate. 

Closure 
claimed,  but 
Mr.  Speaker 
withholds  his 
assent. 

Mr. Jowett  rose  in  his  place  and  claimed  to 
move,  That  the  Question be  now  put;  but  Mr. 
Speaker  withheld  his  assent,  and declined  then 
to  put  that  Question:  —  Then  the  House 
resumed  the  Debate. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Remission  of 
.,, 
(Dublm)  BUI. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Remission  of  Surcharges 
(Dublin)  Bill;  

8 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ecclesiastical 

Second  Reading  of  the  Ecclesiastical  Assess-  Assessments 
^ t l a n d > 
ments (Scotland)  Bill;  

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Hours  of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Bake­
houses) Bill; 

(Bakehouses) 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  the  5th day  of  May  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Asylum 

Second  Reading  of  the  Asylum  Officers'  Super-
annuation  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Super­
annuation 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time <^1oUand) 

to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Cheap Trains 

Second  Reading  of  the  Cheap  Trains  Bill; 

Bl11, 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Factory and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Factory  and  Workshop 
Act  ( 1 9 0 1)   Amendment  Bill; 

Amendment 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Law Agents 

Second  Reading  of  the Law  Agents  (Scotland)  (Scotland) 
Act  Amendment  Bill;  

Amendment 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Open  Spaces 
Second  Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland) (Scotland) 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Local  Education  Authorities  (Medical   Local 

Treatment)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order, read a  ^ j ^ m es 
second  time,  and  committed  to  a  Standing (Medical 
Committee. 

Treatment) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking  Oaths  Bill, 

into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as  amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pedlars  Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-  Amendment 
ment  Bill; 

BllL 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public  Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  A c t A ot   (1875) 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 
? t 

fwater  

And  it  being  Eleven  of  the clock,  the  Debate 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time KiSnts) Bi]1­

stood  adjourned. 

to-morrow. 

Melical  Acts  

Amendment 

Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Medical  Acts  Amend­
ment  Bill; 

The  postponed  proceeding  on  the  Question,  Cinemato-
That  the  Cinematograph  Bill  be  now  read  a 8 r aP I i  B i l 1  ­
second  time,  was resumed. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed:— 

upon  Friday  next. 

And  a Debate  arising  thereupon  ; 

No. 40.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

21 st—22nd  April 

And  it  being  after  Eleven  of  the  clock, 
and objection  being  taken  to  farther  proceeding, 
the Debate  stood  adjourned. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  upon 

Monday  next. 

And  then  the  House, having  continued  to 
sit  till  four  minutes  after Eleven  of the 
clock, adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

S T A N D I NG  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution  by Mr. Speaker, pursuant to  Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  n 
Standing  Committee. 

117 
The  Local  Government  Provisional  Order 
(Poor  Law)  Bill  was,  according  t> Order, read 
a second time, and  committed. 

Local 
Government 
Provisional 
Order 
(Poor  Law) 
Bill. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  an! 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon  the Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 
Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His  Public 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Seventieth Records-
Annual  Report  of  the  Deputy  Keeper  of  the 
Public  Records. 

.  

f f 

Copy of  Appendix  to  the Report  of  the Royal  Po?r L a  f 3 and 
r 
L a ws 

r j 
C o m m i s s i on  
of  Distress.  Yol.  I.,  Minutes   of  Evidence  (Royal 
(Days  1 to  34).  Vol.  IA.,  Appendices  thereto.  Commission.) 
Vol.  IB.,  Index  to  Vols.  I.  and  IA. 

a na  K e h et  D i

i•  /-Relief  of 

t he  P o or 

— 

s t r e ss 

o n 

Ordered, That the said  Papers  do lie  upon  the 

N a me   o f  B i l l. 

S t a n d i ng 

C o m m i t t e e. 

Table. 

T r a w l i ng   i n  P r o h i b i t ed  A r e as 

( P r e-

C . 

v e n t i o n)  B i l l. 

Provisional 
Order  Bills 
(no  Standing 
Orders 
applicable.) 

[No.  41.] 

Thursday,  22nd April  1909. 
The  House  met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P  R A T E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions 
for  Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the 
following  Bill,  referred  on  the  First  Reading 
thereof,  no  Standing  Orders  are  applicable, 
viz.:— 

Railway  Rates  and  Charges  Provisional 
Order (Weston, Clevedon, and  Portishead 
Light  Railways)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Preston, 
Chorley,  and 
Horwich 
Tramways 
Bill. 

The  Preston,  Chorley,  and  Horwich  Tram­

ways Bill  was read  the third  time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords, and  desire  their  concurrence. 

Jones's 
Almshouse 
and  Grammar 
School 
Foundation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  Jones's  Almshouse  and 
Grammar  School  Foundation  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
London  and
North  Western  Second  Reading  of  the  London  and  North 
Railway  Bill.

  W e s t e rn   Railway  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Kilkenny, 
Castlecomer, 
and  Athy 
Railway  Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Kilkenny,  Castlecomer, 
and Athy  Railway  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of the  clock. 

Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return  to  an Order,  National 
dated  the  21st  day  of  this  instant  April,  for  ^ ^  . 
a  Return  relative  to  the  National  Gallery  J? 
(Report).

N o - 1 0 7 ­

3 

iAT 

Mr.  Hobhouse  also  presented, pursuant  to  the Land Registry, 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Account  No. 108. 
of  Receipts  and  Payments  in  respect  of  the 
Land  Registry  for  the  year  ended  31st  March 
1909. 

Ordered,  That  the said Papers do  lie  upon the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the direc- Thames 
tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  was  laid upon  Conservancy, 
the  Table  by  the Clerk of the  House:—General  No. 109. 
Report  of  the  Proceedings  of  the  Conservators 
of  the  River  Thames  during  the  year  ended 
31st  December  1908, with  a  Statement of  the 
Accounts  of  the  Conservators  for that  year. 
Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  be  printed. 

Mr. Fenwich reported  from the  Committee  of  Selection 
Selection ;  That  they had  added  the  following  ^ ' ^ t l e  s 
Member  to  Standing  Committee  A  (in  respect  standing 
of  the  Licensed  Premises  (Election  D a y s  )  Committee A. 
Closing  Bill):—Mr. Middlebrook. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  (Election  


Days)  Closing  


Table. 

Mr.  Stuart-Wortley  reported  from  Standing  standing 
Committee A,  to  whom  the  Sale  of  Intoxicating  Committee A. 

Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill  was  referred 
they  had  gone  through  the  Bill  and  made  Liquors on 
Amendments  thereunto. 

Sale of 
O  Un la  Af  

Intoxicating 

Sunday  Bill. 

That 

< 

_ 

_ 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  No. 110. 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Ordered, That the  Minutes of  the Proceedings  No.  110. 

of the  Standing  Committee  be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  B i ll  1 5 8, 

Standing  Committee,  be taken  into consideration 
to-morrow;  and  be printed. 

Ordered, That  the  Charitable  Trusts  Bill  be  Charitable 
Trusts Bill. 

read  a second  time upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Public  Health  Officers Public  Health 

Bill  be read a second  time  upon  Wednesday  the  Officers Bill. 
19 th day of  May  next. 

Midland 
Railway  Bill 
[.Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Midland  Railway  Bill 
[.Lords] ; 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported  London, 

the  London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railway  Bill 
[I,ords~\,  without Amendment. 

Railway  Bill 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the iLords-"i 

upon  Monday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

Q  3 

 
Public Health 
(Provisional 
Orders) Bill. 

(Exemption) 
Bill. 

Bill 159. 

Theatres and 
Music  Halls 
Bill. 

BUI 160. 

118 

5th—6th April. 
Ordered, That  the Public  Health  (Provisional  a  comprehensive  arterial  drainage  scheme  for 
Orders)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Ireland "—(Mr.  Thomas  Smyth),—instead  there-
of. 
Wednesday  the  12tli day  of  May next. 

1909. 

[No. 36. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the words 

Mr.  Ellis  Griffith,  supported  by  Colonel  proposed  to be left out stand part  of  the  Ques-


Sandys,  Sir  Francis  Channing, Mr.  Field,  Mr. tion  ; 
Weir, Mr.  Mac Net 11,  Mr.  Clement  Edwards,  Mr. 
Crooks,  and  Mr.  Sloan,  presented  a  Bill  to 
exempt  Dogs  from  painful  experiments:  And 
the same  was ordered  to  be read a  second  time 
upon  Wednesday  next;  and to  be printed. 

Mr. Robert Harcourt, supported by  Sir Gilbert 
Parker,  Mr,  Alfred  Mason,  Mr.  Hills,  Mr. 
Russell Rea,  Mr.  Bright,  Mr.  T.  P.  O'Connor, 
Mr.  Hugh  Law,  and  Mr.  Ramsay  Macdonald, 
presented  a  Bill  to  abolish  the  powers  of  the 
Lord  Chamberlain  in respect of stage Plays, and 
to  vest  in  local  authorities  the  licensing  of 
Theatres,  Music  Halls,  and  places  of  public 
entertainment:  And  the same was ordered  to be 
read  a  second time upon  Tuesday  next;  and to 
be printed. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the j Mr. Joseph  Pease,
XMaster of Elibank :

Yeas, 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien,
[Mr.  Haviland-Burke  :

Noes, 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

|97. 

80. 


J 
\ 
f 

And  the Main  Question  being  put; 
Ordered,  That Mr.  Speaker  do now  leave  the 

The  House  accordingly  resolved  itself  into 

Chair. 

the  Committee. 

(In  the  Committee.)  


Civil  Services  and Revenue  Departments  

Estimates,  1909-10.  

To  report Progress, and ask leave  to  sit again. 

Postal  Packets
^Lotteries)
Bill. 

Bill 161. 

  Mr.  Beale,  supported  by  Sir  Henry  Craik, 
  Mr. Arthur  Henderson, Mr.  Hutton,  Mr.  Rose,
and Sir Albert Spicer, presented  a Bill  to  confer 
on  the  Postmaster  General  further  powers  to 
prevent  the  circulation  of  letters  and  postal 
packets  relating  to  Lotteries:  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Tuesday  the  18th day  of  May  next  ;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman acquainted the House that the  » 
Committee  had made  Progress  in the matter  to 
them referred ; and that he was directed to move, 
That the  Committee may have leave  to sit again. 
Mr. Rawlinson,  supported  by  Mr.  Hills,  Mr.  Resolved,  That this House  will, upon  Monday 

Horridge, and Mr. Micklem,  presented  a  Bill  to next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
amend  the  Judicature  Acts,  1873  to  1894, with 
respect  to  the  persons  in  whom  the  power  of 
making  Rules  of  Court  under  those  Acts  is 
vested :  And  the same was ordered  to  be read  a 
second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 
o 

Second  Reading  of  the  Buildings and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill;

mittee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a  second time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Buildings and 

Works 

l L 

Ordered, That  leave  be  given  to  bring  in a 
Bill  to  prohibit  Gambling  on  loss by  Maritime 
Perils :  And  that Mr.  Churchill,  Mr.  Runciman,  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 
and Mr.  Tennant  do prepare  and bring  it in. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland ^ l a n  d 
-r, 
Revenue  Bill; 

Revenue  Bill. 

-ri-n 

upon Monday  next. 

Rule 
Committee 
Bill. 

Bill  162. 

Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies.) 

Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies)  Bill. 
Bill  163. 

Mr.  Churchill accordingly  presented  a Bill  to 
prohibit  Gambling  on  loss  by  Maritime  Perils : 
And  the  same  was  read  the  first  time,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a second time  upon  Monday 
next;  and to be printed. 

Supply (Civil 
Services and 
Revenue 
Departments 
Estimates.) 

Arterial 
Drainage 
(Ireland.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee of  Supply; 

And  a  Motion  being made, and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do now leave 
the  Chair; 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
"  That"  to the end of the  Question, and  adding 
the words  "  in  the  opinion  of  this  House,  the 
question  of  the  arterial  drainage  of  Ireland  is 
one  of  great  magnitude and  supreme urgency ; 
the floodings by  the great rivers and their  tribu­
taries are causing  annual widespread  destruction 
of  property,  grave  and  permanent  injury  to 
public  health, outbreaks of virulent diseases, and 
are a standing menace to the lives of the  people; 
that  several  Royal  Commissions  have  proved 
the  existence  of  the  evils  and  their disastrous 
consequences, and that it is impossible  for  local 
effort  to  cope  with  the evils or mitigate them ; 
and that, as it is the duty of  any  Government to 
protect the lives and property  of  the people, this 
House  demands  that  the  Government  should 
introduce and pass into law a measure  embodying 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Election  of 
Second  Reading  of  the Election of  Aldermen  in Aldermen  in 
Municipal  Boroughs BUI; 

Borou^sBiil. 

_ 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  House Letting 

Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting  and and  Rating 
(Scotland) 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill; 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking  Supply 

into  consideration  the  Sixth of  the Resolutions  [22nd  March] 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day of  March  last, were (deferred 
reported  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the  Resolution.) 
22nd day  of  March  last; 

Ordered, That  the  said Resolution  be  taken 

into further consideration  upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary of 
of 

Second Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Board *be 
of Agriculture  and Fisheries Bill; 

angdFisheries 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a second  time Bl11­

upon  Monday  next. 

 
No.  41.]  9  EDW.  VII. 
Assistant 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
III.	  Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 

General  Bill; 

2 2 nd—23rd  April  	

119 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Remission of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Remission  of  Surcharges Surcharges 
(Dublin)  B i l l ;°  

(Dubhn)  Bdl. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.] ; 

Resolved, That  this House  will,  upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Asylum 

Second  Reading  of  the Asylum  Officers' Super­
annuation  (Scotland)  Bill ; 

(Scotland) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  Bil1, 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Places of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means ; 

Resolved, That this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  oaths Bill, 

into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as  amended 
in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  bein<  read,  for  the  Pedlars  Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  A c t  s  A m e n d  -  Amendment 
ment Bill; „ 

BilL 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 

Sir E. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

to-morrow. 

OharHyBUl.'3

  S e c o nd
Bill; 

  Reading of Sir R. Whittington's  Charity 

Ordered, That the Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Brjdgend 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

BaP°tPiatEnSliSh  Second  Reading  of  the  Bridgend (Hope  English 
Chapel, &c.)  Baptist  Chapel,  &c.)  Charity  Bill; 
Charity  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
John 
Marshall's 
Charity  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  Charity 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Lichfield and 
Congregational S e c o n  d  Beading  of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon 
Chapels  and  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust Property  Charity  Bill: 
' 
Charity  Bill. 

/ 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Dewsbury 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Congregational  Second  Reading  of  the>  Dewsburyand  Batley 
Chapel 
Charities  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill; 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Wortley 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Chapeigati0nal  Second  Beading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational 
Charity  Bill.  Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial 
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  (1875) ^endment 
Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill;  

(Water 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time  R i S h t s )  B m ­

upon  Tuesday  next. 

And  then  the  House, having  continued  to  

sit till three minutes  after  Eleven  of  the  

clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow.  


S T A N D I NG 

C O M M I T T E E S. 

Distribution  by  Mr. Speaker, pursuant  to  Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a  

Standing  Committee.  


N a me   of  B i l l. 

Standing 
Committee. 

L o c al  E d u c a t i on  A u t h o r i t i es  ( M e d i-

A . 


cal  T r e a t m e n t)  Bill.  


[No.  42.] 

Friday,  23rd April  1909. 

The  House  met  at  Twelve  of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Reports  Private Bills 

from one of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions for  (Petition for 

Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the  Petition ^vis'ion) 
for  additional  provision  in  the  following  Bills  (Standing 
the	  Standing  Orders  have  not  been  complied  Orders not 
complied 
with, viz.  :  -	
With.) 

• 

. 

°	

r

London  County  Council  (General  Powers) 

Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Licensing 
Justices Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Licensing  Justices  Bill; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

London  County  Council  (Tramways  and 

Improvements)  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Reports be  referred  to  the 

upon  Wednesday  the  12th  day  of  May  next. 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

Hours of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Hours of  Labour  (Sur­
f a c e m e n )  B i ]1   . 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Great Western 

Second  Reading  of  the  Great  Western  Railway Railway 
(General  Powers)  Bill; 

^  

lowers?Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Q  4 

 
 
120 

5 th—6 th April. 

1909. 

[No.  36. 

Hallway J"(ates  The  Railway  Rates  and  Charges  Provisional 
anil Charges  Order  (Weston, Clevedon, and Portishead  Light 
Provisional 
Railways)  Bill was,  according  to  Order, read  a 
Order 
second time, and committed. 
(Weston, 
Clevedon, and 
Portishead 
Light 
Railways)  Bill, 
Public 
Petitions, 
Vide  Second 
Report. 

Coal  Exports,  Mr.  Churchill presented,—Return to  an Order, 

&c. 
dated the  17th day  of  March last,  for  a  Return  

relative  to  Coal Exports,  &c. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie  upon the  Table. 

N o  .  1 1 1. 

No. 112. 

Railway- and  Mr.  Churchill also  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
Canal Traffic  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Act, 1888. 
Report  by  the  Board  of  Trade  under  the 
Railway  and  Canal  Traffic  Act,  1888,  on  the 
classification  of  the  merchandise  Traffic  and 
the  Schedule  of  maximum  Rates  and  Charges 
to  be  made  applicable  to  the  railways  of  the 
Weston,  Clevedon,  and  Portishead  Light  Rail­
ways  Company. 

Board of 
Education. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie  upon the 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Runciman presented,  by  His  Majesty's 

Command,—Copy  of  Regulations  for  the  Pre­
liminary  Education  of  Elementary  School 
Teachers:  (1)  Pupil  Teacher  Regulations,  (2) 
Bursary  Regulations, 
(3)  Student  Teacher 
Regulations,  in  force  from  1st August  1909,  in 
England, excluding  Wales  and  Monmouthshire. 

Ordered,  That the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
Trade Reports 
jji3  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic 
(Annual 
and  Consular  Reports, Aunual  Series, No. 4200. 
e ne 
Treaty  Series 
Copy  of  Agreement  between  the  United 
(No.  10,1909.) Kingdom  and  Germany  referring the delimita­
tion  of  the  Southern  Boundary  of  the  British 
to  arbitration. 
Territory  of  Walfisch  Bay 
Signed  at Berlin, 30th January  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the said Papers  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Education 
(Adminis-
trative 
Provisions) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Beading  of  the Education  (Administra­
tive Provisions)  Bill; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
to  the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word 
"  now,"  and,  at the  end  of the  Question, adding 
the  words  "upon  this  day  six  months."—(Sir 
Francis  Sharp  Powell.) 

And  the Question  being  put, That  the word 

" now "  stand part of  the  Question ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the Right  ; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Edward Dunn, 

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Charles  Duncan  \ 

Tellers for  the (Mr.  Joseph  Pease,

Noes, 

I Master of  Elibank : 

82. 

206. 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 
And  the  Question  being  put, That the words 
"  upon  this  day six  months"  be  added  at  the 
end  of  the  Question:—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Then  the  Main  Question,  so  amended, being 

put; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon this day six months. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ecclesiastical 
Second  Reading  of  the  Ecclesiastical  Disorders  Dfaordew Bill. 
Bill; 

And  a  Motion  being made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second time :—And  a Debate  arising thereupon ; 
And  a Motion  being  made,  and the  Question 
being  put, That  the Debate  be now  adjourned— 
(Lord  Robert  Cecil) :—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be  resumed  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Second  Reading  of 
(Legal  Expenses)  Bill;  

the  Local  Authorities  Authorities 
Exposes) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time Bil1­

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming  Sunday 
the adjourned Debate  on the  Question  proposed  ?^lesS) Act 
upon  the  26th  day  of  March  last,  That  the (igsi) 
Sunday  Closing  (Wales)  Act  (1881)  Amend-Amendment 
ment Bill  be now read a second  time ; 

Bil1' 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Friday  the 21st day  of  May  next. 

The  Order  of  .the  day  being  read,  for  t he  Fire  Inquests 

Second  Reading  of the Fire  Inquests  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill, be  read a second  time 

upon  Friday  the 7 th day of May  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Law of 

Second  Reading  of 
(Amendment)  Bill; 

the  Law  of  Murder J^ndment) 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Tuesday  the 4th day of  May next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Deaths 
Second  Reading  of  the  Deaths Registration  and  ^ f ^  X 
Burials Bill  ; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Tuesday  the 4th  day of  May  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cruelty to 
Second  Reading  of  the  Cruelty  to  Animals Animals^ 
(No. 2)  Bill; 

(No. 2)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Tuesday  the 4th day  of May  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trawlers' 
Second  Reading  of  the  Trawlers'  Certificates Certificates 
•  T>'II 
O 
Suspension 
Suspension  Bui; 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read  for  t he  Municipal 
Elections  Elections 

Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal 
Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Registration  of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Registration  of  Nurses 
/ a 
(Scotland) Bill; 

;i\T>-ii 

,i 

(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second time 


upon Tuesday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sea Fisheries 

Second Reading of  the  Sea Fisheries  Regulation 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday  next. 



No.  42.]  9  EDW.  YII. 

23rd—26th  April. 

121 

Medical  Acts 
Amendment 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Medical  Acts  Amend­
ment  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Upon Friday  next. 

Sale of 
Intoxicating 
Liquors on 
Sunday  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration 
the  Sale  of  Intoxicating 
Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon  Monday  next. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial 
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Oaths  Bill. 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Pedlars  Acts 
Amendment 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend­
ment Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Places  of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Private  Bills 
(Group  0.) 

Sir  Luke  White reported  ffom the  Committee 
on  Group  C  of  Private  Bills;  That,  for  the 
convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Tuesday  the 4th  day  of  May next, 
at half  an hour  after Eleven  of the  clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Nurses 
(Registration) 
Bill. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon 
Monday  next,  the  Nurses  (Registration)  Bill 
was read, and discharged. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put, pursuant  to 
Standing  Order  No.  3, it  being  then  two 
minutes  after  Five  of  the  clock,  till 
Monday  next. 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,-—Report London 
County 
Council 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the  following (Money)  BiU 
Bill,  referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof,  the  (Standing 
Standing  Orders  which  are  applicable  thereto Orders 
have  been  complied  with,  viz.  :— 

London  County  Council  (Money)  Bill. 

OrderedThat  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time. 

applicable 
thereto 
complied' 
with.) 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private  Bills 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for  [Lords]
Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case of  the following Orders nogt 
Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords,  and referred  on  previously 
the First  Reading  thereof,  the  Standing  Orders  inquired  into 
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are not  complied 
applicable  thereto, have  not  been complied  with, 
viz.:— 

with.) 

Worksop  Water  Bill  [Lords], 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  referred  to the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,-—Report  private'Bills 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for  [Lords]
Private  Bills, That  in  the  case  of  the  Petition 
for  additional  provision  in  the  following  Bill,  provision) 
originating  in  the  Lords,  the  Standing  Orders  (Standing 
complied* 
have  not been complied  with, viz.:— 
with.) 

Manchester  Corporation  Bill  [Lords], 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  referred  to the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

The  Malvern  Hills  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  a Malvern  Hills 
Bill  [Lords.] 

second  time, and committed. 

The  South  Lincolnshire  Water  Bill 
was read a second  time, and  committed. 

Lincolnshire 
Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Jones's 

[Lords]  South 

Second  Reading  of  Jones's  Almshouse  and  Almshouse  and 
Grammar  School  Foundation  Bill; 

S e h  ™ 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  Foundation 

upon  Thursday  next. 

1  ' 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Great  Western 

Second  Reading  of  the  Great  Western  Railway Railway 
(General  Powers)  Bill;  

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London  and 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  and  North  North  Westers 
Western  Railway  Bill;  

Railway  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Midland 
Second  Reading  of  the  Midland  Railway  Bill  Railway  Bill 
[Lords]; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

[No.  43.] 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Monday, 26th April  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three of the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

1/1R.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
lf|_  from one of  the  Examiners  of Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the following 
Bill,  originating 
in  the  Lords,  and  referred 
on  the  First  Reading  thereof,  the  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into, and which 
are applicable  thereto, have been  complied  with, 
v i z.  :  — 

Great  Yarmouth  Corporation  Bill [Lords]. 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Watford  and  Edgware  Railway  Bill  Watford  and 
was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time, RaiiwayBilL 
and  committed. 

The.  Order  made  upon  the  6th  day  of  this  Great 

instant  April,  That  the  Great  Northern,  Great  g ^  t  Cei'itral 
Central,  and  Great  Eastern  Railways  Bill  be  a n d  Great 
' 
committed  to  a Select Committee, was read,  and  Eastern 
discharged. 

Railways  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  made upon  the  29th day  of  March  Crystal  Palace 
last,  That  the  Report  of  the  Examiners  of  Company  Bill. 
Petitions  for  Private  Bills  upon  the  Crystal 
Palace  Company  Bill  be  referred  to the  Select 

Private  Bills 
[Lords]
(Standing 
Orders  not 
previously 
inquired  into 
complied 
with.) 

122 	
Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  was  read,  and 
discharged. 

26th  April 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be  withdrawn. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 

Agricultural 
Statistics 
' 
(Ireland.) 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie  upon  the Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Tables  showing  the  extent 
in  statute  acres  and  the  produce  of  the  Crops 
and numbers  of  Live  Stock  in  Ireland for the 
year  1908. 

Boycotting 

(Ireland.) 

No. 116. 

Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,—Return  to  an 
Order,  dated  the  5th  day of  this instant April, 
for  Returns  relative  to  Boycotting  Cases (Ire­
land). 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers  do  lie upon the 

Table ;  and that the  said  Return be  printed. 

Trade Reports
Series'1'
eneBv>

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command, -  Copy  of  Diplomatic 
and Consular Reports, Annual  Series, No. 4199. 
Otdered,  That the said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Boor Laws  and
Distress'
(Royal
Commission.)
Poor  Laws  and 
Relief  of 
Distress 
(Royal 
Commission.) 

  Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the 
Royal Commission  on the Poor  Laws  and  Relief 

  of  Distress  with regard  to  Ireland. 

Copy  of  Appendix  to the Report of the  Royal 
Commission  on  the  Poor  Laws  and  Relief  of 
Distress.  Vol.  X X I I.  Report   by  Norah  B. 
Roberts  on  the  overlapping  of  the work  of  the 
Voluntary  General  Hospitals  with  that of  Poor 
Law  and  Medical  Relief. 

Ordered,  That  the said Papers do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

High  Court  of 
Justice  and 
Court  of 
Appeal,  &c. 

No. 114. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— Copy  of 
Account,  prepared  in  pursuance of  the  Supreme 
Court  of  Judicature  Act,  1875,  showing  the 
Receipts  and  Expenditure  in  respect  of  the 
High  Court  of  Justice  and  Court  of  Appeal 
during the year ended  31st  March  1909. 

Ordered,  That the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

National  Debt.
No. 113.

Ordered,  That  there be laid  before this House 
  a  Copy  of  Return  showing,  for  each financial 
year  commencing  the  1st  day  of  April  from 
1875 to  1909, inclusive— 

I.  The  total  amount  of  dead-weight  Debt 
outstanding  on  the  1st  day of  April;  the 
amounts  which  were made  available in  each 
year to  1908-9, inclusive,  for  reduction  of 
Debt,  distinguishing  the  sums  expressly 
provided  for  service  of  the  Debt, the Old 
Sinking  Fund,  and Miscellaneous Receipts; 
the  gross  amount  of  Debt  redeemed,  the 
amount  of  Debt  created,  and  the  net 
increase  or decrease  of  Debt  in  the year ; 
II.	  A  similar  Statement  in  respect  of  other 

capital Liabilities  ; 

III.	  A  similar  Statement  in  respect  of  the 
aggregate  gross Liabilities  of  the  State. 

—(Mr.  Hobhouse.) 

Mr.  Hobhouse  accordingly  presented  the  said 

Return. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Return  do  lie  upon 

the Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

R e v e n ue  a nd
Expenditure
for  the years

Ordered,  That  there  be laid before this  House 

a  Copy  of  explanatory  Memorandum  by  Mr. 
  chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  with  respect  to 

1909.  TNo. 43. 

the  Revenue  and  Expenditure  of  the  years 1908-9 and 
1908-9  and  1909-10,  and  the  position  of  the  W09-10. 
National  Debt  at  the close of  the former  year." 
—(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

No. 11-5. 

Mr.  Hobhouse accordingly  presented  the  said 

Return. 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie  upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Resolved, That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-Corporal 
sented  to His Majesty, that He will be graciously  Punishment, 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before this  House a Return  of  all  Sentences  of 
Corporal  Punishment  inflicted  under  26  &  27 
Vict. c. 44,  upon  persons  convicted  of  offences 
under Section  43 of the Larceny  Act,  1861,  and 
Section  21  of  the  Offences  against  the  Person 
Act,  1861,  in  England  and  Wales,  from  the 
31st  day  of  December  1907  to  the  31st  day 
of  December  1908  (in  continuation  of  Parlia­
mentary  Paper,  No.  147  of  Session  1908).— 
(Mr.  Lloyd  Morgan.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Handloom  Weaving  Bill  Handloom 

be read a second  time  upon  Friday  next. 

Weaving  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Registration  of  Clubs (Ire-  Registration 
land)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Friday  °f„ °,lub®  „  „ 
(Ireland)  Bill. 
n e x  f	 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords by the  Lord5­
one of their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled An Oonington 

Act  to incorporate  the  Donington  Water  Com­
pany,  and  to  enable  that  Company  to  supply 
water  in  certain  parishes  in  the  County  of 
Lincoln;  to which  the  Lords desire  the  concur­
rence of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An  Bungay  Water 
Act  to incorporate the Bungay  Water  Company, 3il1 [Lords.] 
and  to enable that  Company  to  supply  water  in 
certain parishes  in the  Counties of  Norfolk  and 
Suffolk ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concur­
rence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a Bill,  intituled  An  Frimley  and 

Act  for  extending  the  limits  of  supply  of,  and 
conferring further powers  upon, the Frimley  and Biii^j&onfc.]1 
Farnborough  District  Water  Company,  and for 
other  purposes;  to which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Grantham 
Act  to  confer  further powers  on the  Grantham }X.ateJ ^iu 
Waterworks  Company, and  for  other purposes ;
to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of 
this House. 

r

the first time. 

The  Donington  Water  Bill  [Lords] was read  Donington 
Water  Bill 
[Lords. J 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

The  Bungay  Water  Bill  [Lords] was read the  Bungay  Water 
Bill  [Lord*.] 

first  time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions  for Private  Bills. 

Bill  [Lords'] was read the first time. 

The  Frimley and Farnborough  District Water  Frimley  and 
Farnborough 
District  Water 

J 

u 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  Bill 

Examiners of  Petitions  for Private  Bills. 

[Lords.]

The  Grantham  Water  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  Grantham  

Water  Bill  

[Lords,  j 

the first time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  


Examiners of  Petitions for  Private  Bills.  


 
 
 
 
 
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  9  EDW.  VII. 

2 m

April 

123 

Criminal  Law 
Amendment 
Bill. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time, upon 
Thursday  next,  the  Criminal  Law  Amendment 
Bill  was read, and discharged. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Wednesday  the  9th day  of  June  next. 

Leaseholds 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

Bill  164. 

Mr.  Maclean,  supported  by  Mr.  William 
Abraham  (Rhondda),  Mr.  Brace,  Mr.  Ellis 
Griffith, Mr.  Jenkins,  Mr.  Llewelyn Williams, 
Mr.  George  Hardy,  Mr.Lewis  Haslam,  Mr. 
Owen  Philipps,  Mr.  Rowlands, Mr.  Ridsdale,
and Mr.  Herbert, presented a Bill  to provide for 
the  Enfranchisement  of  Leaseholds :  And  the 
same was ordered  to be read a second  time upon 
Monday  the  10th day of  May  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Indian 
Councils  Bill 
\ Lords.] 

The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to 
take into consideration  the  Indian  Councils  Bill 
iLoj-dsl,  as amended  in the  Committee. 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1. 15,  by inserting,  after  the 
word "  Act,"  the words "  Provided that the ratio 
of  Mussulman and Hindu  representation  on  all 
representative  bodies,  from  the  rural  boards 
upwards  to  the  Viceregal  Council,  be  fixed  by 
executive  authority,  and  that  in  every  case  in 
which  any seat  on  a  representative  body  thus 
assigned  to  the Mohammedan  community  is  to 
be  filled  by  election  the  necessary  electorate 
be  composed  exclusively  of  Mohammedans."— 
(Earl  of Ronaldshay.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That those 
words be there inserted  in  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p.  2,  1. 17,  by  leaving  out  the 
words "any  province,"  and  inserting  the  words 
"the  Province  of  the  Bengal  Division  of  the 
Presidency  of  Port  William  "—(Earl  Percy),—
instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words "any  province"  stand part of  the Bill  :— 
The  said  proposed  Amendment  uas, with leave 
of the  House,  withdrawn. 

Then  Amendments  were made to the  Bill. 
Ordered,  That the Bill  be now read  the third 
time :—The  Bill was  accordingly  read  the  third 
time and passed, with  Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them that this  House 
hath agreed  to  the same, with Amendments ; to 
which  this House doth  desire  the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on  the Question  proposed 
upon  the  20th  day  of  this  instant April,  That 
the Board  of  Trade  Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time ; 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed  :— 
The  House resumed  the said  adjourned  Debate. 
The  Prime  Minister  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to move, That  the  Question  be now put. 
And  the Question  being  put, That  the  Ques­

tion be  now  put; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for thej Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
(Master  of Elibank 

Yeas, 

}  173. 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Tellers for the f Captain  Craig, 

Noes, 

I Sir  Frederick Banbury: J f 

77. 

And  the  Question  being accordingly  put;  

The  House divided.  

The  Yeas to the  Right; 

The  Noes to  the  Left.  

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

(Master  of  Elibank : 
Tellers for the}Mr.  George Roberts, 

'(

J 1 5 2. 

\ 
(Mr.  Charles  Duncan :  J 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

76. 

So it  was resolved  in the  Affirmative.  

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  


time :—The  Bill was  accordingly  read  a second 
time. 

A  Motion  was made,  and  the  Question  being 
put,  That the  Bill  be committed to a Committee 
of  the whole  House—(Mr.  Renwick) ; 

The  House  divided. 1 

The  Yeas  to the  Right;  

The  Noes to the  Left.  

Tellers for  the/Mr. Renwick, 


Yeas, 

I Captain  Craig:  


Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

[Master  of Elibank  :  


69. 

124. 

So it passed in the  Negative.  

The  Bill  was  committed  to a  Standing  Com­

mittee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Boardthe Board of 
^Fisheries 
of Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time Bl11­

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Assistant 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster  G^afBiil. 
General  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for resuming  Cinemato­
the adjourned  Debate  on the  Question  proposed graph   Bl 
upon  the  21st  day  of  this  instant  April,  That 
the  Cinematograph  Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Buildings  and 

Second Reading  of  the  Buildings and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trade  Boards 

Second  Reading  of  the  Trade  Boards Bill; 

BU1­

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply  J?lecl*ic„.., 
Supply  Bill. 
g j j  j  . 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning. 
&C. Bill  ; 

.
Planmng.te. 

Resolved,  That this House will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  Land 

Committee  on the  Irish  Land  Bill; 

BiU 

Resolved,  That this  House will, upon  Monday 

So it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

VOL.  164. 

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26th  April  	

[No.  43. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Hypothec 
Abolition 
the adjourned  Debate on the Amendment which,  Second  Reading  of  the  Hypothec  Abolition  (Scotland) 
upon  the  20th  day  of  this  instant  April,  was  (Scotland)  Bill; 
proposed  to  be  made to the  Question,  That  the 
Houses  of  Parliament Bill  be  now  read  a second  upon  Tuesday  the  18th  day  of  May  next. 
time  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next.  	

The  Order  of  the  day  beinsj  read,  for  the 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish  National 

Second Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating  and  Cleansing)  Bill;  	

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  


Schools 
(Heating  and 
Cleansing) 
Bill. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church  to-morrow. 
(Wales)  Bill; 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 	

Established 
Church 

(Wales)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a  second time 

upon  Monday  next.  	

London 
Elections  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the London  Elections  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Marine 
Insurance 	
(Gambling 	
Policies)  Bill.  	 (Gambling  Policies)  Bill; 

Second  Reading  of 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Marine  Insurance 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Territorial 

Second  Reading  of  the  Territorial  Army  Ballot 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Army  Ballot 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Necessitous 

Second  Reading  of  the  Necessitous  Mothers  Mothers 
(Assistance)  Bill; 

(Assistance) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Education 
Second  Reading  of  the  Education (England  and (England  and 
Wales)  Bill; 

Wales)  BiU. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

Committee  of  Supply ; 

upon  Tuesday  the  11th  day  of  May  next. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into  the said  Committee. 

Customs  and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill.  Revenue  Bill 

Second  R e a d i n  g 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  


of  the  Customs  and  Inland  upon  Monday  next.  


Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 	

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Inter-

Second  Reading  of  the  Intercommunion  Bill; 

communion 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

The  Order  of  the 

being  read,  for  the  Police  Super-

Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Superannuation annuation 
(Scotland) 
(Scotland)  Bill; 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Election  of 
Aldermen  in  	 Second  Reading  of  the  Election  of  Aldermen  in 
Municipal 
Boroughs  Bill,  Municipal  Boroughs  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  to-morrow. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second time  Second  Reading  of  the  Episcopal  Endowments 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Episcopal 
" 

— 

~ 

to-morrow. 	

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Endowments 
Bill. 

House  Letting 
and  Rating 
(Scotland) 
BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  upon  Monday  next. 

Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting  and 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Contamination 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time  Second  Reading  of  the  Contamination  of  Child- of  Children 
ren  Bill; 

Bill. 

to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
Supply 
[22nd  March]  into  consideration  the  Sixth  of  the  Resolutions 
Report 
which,  upon  the 23rd  day  of  March  last,  were 
(Deferred 
reported  from  the  Committee of  Supply  of  the  Second  Reading  of  the  Prohibition  of  Vivi­
Resolution.) 
22nd  day of  March  last; 

section  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Prohibition  of 

Vivisection 
BiU. 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

into  further  consideration  to-morrow. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
to.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order	  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Law  Agents 
Second  Reading  of  the  Law  Agents  (Scotland)  (Scotland)  

Act  Amendment  Bill;  
Amendment 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read  a  second  time  Bil1, 

to-morrow. 

Ways  and  	
Means. 	

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Open  Spaces 

Second  Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces (Scotland)  (Scotland) 
Bill;

BllU 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  


Places 
of  Worship	 
menQaBUi.iSe"  (Enfranchisement)  Bill;  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  

Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 

to-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Charitable  

  Trusts  Bili-

Second  Reading  of the  Charitable  Trusts  Bill;

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  


upon  Monday  the  10th  day  of May  next. 

to-morrow. 



 
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Rule 
Committee 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of the Rule  Committee  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

the  First  Reading thereof,  the  Standing  Orders  inquired  into  

not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are ^™hpJied 

applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
viz.:— 


Hours of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

.  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the Hours  of  Labour  (Sur­
facemen)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Remission  of 
Surcharges 
(Dublin)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the Remission  of  Surcharges 
(Dublin)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Ecclesiastical 
Disorders Bill. 

The Order of the day being  read, for resuming 
the adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant  April,  That 
the  Ecclesiastical  Disorders  Bill  be  now read a 
second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

Sea  Fisheries 
Regulation 
{Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of  the Sea Fisheries  Regulation 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Sale of 
Intoxicating 
Liquors on 
Sunday  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being read, for  talcing 
into  consideration  the  Sale  of  Intoxicating 
Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Friday  the  25th  day  of  Juiie 
next. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial 
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Oaths  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for taking 
into  consideration  the  Oaths Bill,  as amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Friday  the  18th  day  of  June 
next. 

Pedlars Acts 
Amendment 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend­
ment Bill  ; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit till  twenty-eight  minutes after Eleven 
of the clock, adjourned till  to-morrow. 

Durham  (County)  Electric  Power  Supply  


Bill  \_Lords\.  


Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time. 

The  House  proceeded  to take  into  considera-  London, 
tion  t he  L o n d o n,  C h a t h a m,  and  D o v er  R a i l w ay  Chatham, 
j  i 
T>-n  r t 
B i ll  [Lords]. 

and  Dover 
Railway  Bill 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read the  third time.  [Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking  Gas Light and 
into  consideration  the  Gas  Light  and  Coke  Coke Company 
Company  Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee; 

' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Tuesday  next. 

Mr.  Masterman  presented  a  Bill  to  confirm Local 
certain  Provisional  Orders of the Local  Govern-  Government 
ment  Board  relating  to  Bridlington,  Dorking, orders^No. l) 
Newport Pagnell (Rural), and Totnes :  And  the  Bill, 
same was read the first time. 

Bill 166. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills ;  and 
be printed. 

Mr.  Masterman presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  Local 

certain Provisional  Orders of the Local  Govern-  Government 
ment  Board  relating  to  Derby,  Oswaldtwistle, QXSTNO. 2) 
Wallasey, and  Walsall:  And the same was read  Bill, 
the first time. 

Bill 167. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be printed. 

Mr.  Tennant  presented  a  Bill  to  confirm Gas 

certain  Provisional  Orders  made  by  the  Board  g^Ira  BM 
of  Trade  under  the  Gas  and  Water  Works 
Facilities  Act,  1870, relating  to  Prestatyn  Gas 
and  Fermoy  Gas :  And  the  same  was read  the 
first  time. 

Bill  168. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills  ;  and 
be printed. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon  the Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide Second 
Report. 
Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Public 

1 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Account  Income and 
of  the  Public  Income  and  Expenditure  in  the  xT" i1^6' 
year  ended  31st  March  1909, together  with the 
balances in the Exchequer at the  commencement 
and  at  the  termination  of  the  year,  and  the 
amounts  received 
from  the 
Exchequer  in  respect  of  funded  and  unfunded 
Debt  created or redeemed  in  the said year. 

into  or  issued 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

[ N o.  4 4 .] 

Tuesday, 27th  April  1909. 
The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Private Bills 
[Lords]
(Standing 
Orders  not 
previously 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from one of the Examiners of Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in the case of  the following 
Bill,  originating  in  the Lords,  and  referred  on 
. V O L . 1 6 4. 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his Sheffield 
Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make Borough 
out a new  WVit  for the electing of a  Member  to i^jvision) 
serve in this present  Parliament  for the Borough  Writ, 
of  Sheffield (Attercliffe Division), in the room of 
Batty  Langley,  Esquire, who, since his Election 
for  the  said  borough, hath  accepted  the  Office 
of  Steward  or  Bailiff  of  His  Majesty's  Three 
Chiltern  Hundreds  of  Stoke,  Desborough,  and 
Burnham,  in the  County of  Buckingham.—(Mr. 
Joseph Pease.) 

Ordered,  That there be laid  before this House  Imperial 

a  Return  relating  to  Imperial  Revenue  (Col­
lection  and  Expenditure)  (Great  Britain 
a nd

i  (Collec­
  lion and 

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126 	

20th April. 

1909. 

[No.  30. 

Expenditure)  Ireland)  for  the  year  ending  the  31st  day  of 
* ?Tilfln  March  1909  (in  continuation  of  Parliamentary 
and Ireland.)   p a p e  r   N o  2 1  5   0f  Session  1908).—(Mr.  Joseph 

Committee  on  Police  Forces  (Weekly  Rest­
Day).—(Mr.  Ellis.) 

; 

Pease.) 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this House 
Mercantile 
Marine . 
. a  ,  Return  showing  the  number  of  Seamen 
Agreements!)2 (exclusive of  officers) who entered  into  Foreign-
going  Agreements  at  the  principal  ports  in the 
United  Kingdom  during  each of the years  1906, 
1907, and  1908, and the number  and  percentage 
of  allotments  made  by  them.—(Mr.  Lewis 

, Haslam.) 

East India 
(Financial 
Statement.) 

Resolved, That  an  humble  Address  be  pre­
sented  to  His Majesty, that He will be graciously 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before  this  House  a  Return  of  the  Indian 
Financial  Statement  for  1909-10,  and  of  the 
Proceedings  of  the  Legislative  Council  of  the 
Governor  General  thereon.—(Mr.  Hobhouse.') 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing 
Standing 
Committee B.  Committee  B,  to  whom  the  Under  Sheriffs 
(County  Boroughs) (Ireland) Bill  was  referred; 
(Comty  T 
That  they  had gone through the  Bill  and  made 
Boroughs) 
(Ireland) Bill.  A mendments thereunto. 

N o.  118. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

No. 118. 

Ordered,  That the  Minutes of  the  Proceedings 

of  the Standing  Committee  be  printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought from  the  Lords  by  the  Lords, 
one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth  : 

The  Lords have agreed to the Army (Annual)  Army 

Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which  the  Lords ( A n M a l) B m­
desire  the concurrence  of  this House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Wells Gas Bill 

Act  for conferring further powers  on  the  Wells  [Lords.]
Gaslight  Company;  to  which  the  Lords  desire 
the concurrence  of  this House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Dudley 
Act  to make further  provision  in  regard  to  the g^*3? 
tramways and light  railways  in the  Borough  of 
Dudley  ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  con­
currence of  this  Housf. 

' 

The  Wells  Gas  Bill  [Lords']  was  read  the  Wells Gas Bill 

first time. 

[Lords.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

The  Dudley  Corporation  Bill  [Lords]  was  Dudley 

read the first time. 

Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.]

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  t o  t he 

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Bill  165. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee,  be taken into consideration 
upon  Monday next;  and  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  made by  the Army 

Lords  to  the  Army  (Annual)  Bill  be  taken (Annual)  Bill, 
Bill 171. 
into consideration  to-morrow  ;  and  be printed. 

Standing 
Orders. 

Mr.  Ellis reported  from the  Select  Committee 
on  Standing  Orders several  Resolutions ;  which 
were read,  as follow : 

1.  That  in  the  case  of  the  Indian  Railways 
Indian 
Railways 
(Sinking  Funds  Investment)  [LordsJ,  Petition 
(Sinking 
for  Bill,  the  Standing  Orders  ought  to  be 
Funds 
Investment)  dispensed  with;  that  the  parties  be  permitted 
[.Lords.] 

to proceed  with their  Bill. 

2.  That  in the case of  the Sligo  and  Bundoran 
Sligo and 
Bundoran 
Railway  Bill  the  Standing  Orders  ought  to  be 
Railway  Bill.  dispensed  with ;  that the parties  be  permitted to 
proceed  with  their  Bill  on  the  condition  that 
Clause  38 and  Clauses  87  to  96,  both  inclusive, 
are struck  out  of  the Bill;  that  the  Committee 
on  the  Bill  do  report  how far  such  Order has 
been  complied  with. 

3.  That  in  the  case  of  the  London  County 
London 
Council  (Tramways  and  Improvements)  Bill, 
County 
Council 
Petition  for  additional  provision,  the  Standing 
(Tramways 
and  Improve- Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed  with ;  that  the 
ments)  Bill.  parties  be  permitted  to  insert  the  additional 
provision  if the  Committee  on the Bill  think fit. 
4.  That  in  the  case  of  the  London  County 
Council  (General  Powers)  Bill,  Petition  for 
additional  provision,  the  Standing  Orders ought 

London 
County  . 
Council 
(General 
Powers)  Bill.  	 to  be  dispensed  with;  that  the  parties  be per­

mitted  to  insert  the  additional  provision 
the Committee  on the  Bill think fit. 

if 

The  said  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second 

time, were  agreed  to. 

The  House  was  moved,  That  the  Resolution 
Sligo and 
Bundoran 
reported  this  day  from the  Select  Committee  on 
Ksilway  Bill.  Standing  Orders  in  respect  of  the  Sligo  and 
Bundoran  Railway  Bill might  be read ;  and the 
same being  read; 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee of Selection 
Selection ;  That they  had discharged the follow- (Standing 
Committees.) 
ing  Members  from  Standing  Committee  A  (in Standing 
respect  of  the  Local  Education  Authorities Committee A. 
(Medical  Treatment)  Bill):—Mr.  Secretary Local 
Gladstone  and  Mr.  Herbert  Samuel  ;  and  had Education 
Authorities 
appointed  in substitution  (in  respect  of  the  said (Medical 
Bill);  Mr.  Runciman  and  Mr. Trevelyan. 

Treatment) 
Bill. 

Mr. Fenwick further reported  from  the  Com-Standing 
mittee  ;  That  thev  had  added  to  Standing Committee A. 

i 

• 

O 

•» 

• 
Committee  A.  the  following  Fifteen  Members Local 
(in  respect  of  the Local  Education  Authorities Education 
(Medical  Treatment)  Bill): — M r.  Maddison,  Authorities 
Mr.  Vivian,  Mr.  Adkins,  Mr.  Leif  Jones, Mr. Treatment) 
Whitwell  Wilson,  Mr.  Haworth,  Mr.  Nuttall, Bill. 
Mr.  Newnes, Mr.  Morse, Mr.  Walter  Guinness, 
Mr.  Bridgeman, Mr.  Abel  Smith,  Mr.  Henry
Gooch,  Mr. Ramsay Macdonald, and Lord Robert. 
Cecil. 

( Medical 

Mr.  Fenwick further  reported  from  the  Com-  standing 
mittee ;  That they  had  discharged the following  Committee A. 
Members from Standing Committee A  (in respect 
of  the  Licensed  Premises 
(Election  Days)  Licensed 
Closing  Bill):—Mr.  Stanley  Wilson and  Mr. Premises 
Bramsdon;  and  had  appointed  in  substitution  "bays) Closing 
(in  respect  of  the  said  Bill)  :  Mr.  Staveley-  Bill. 
Hill and Mr.  Leif Jones. 

Mr.  Fenwick further  reported  from  the  Com-  Standing 
mittee ;  T h a  t  they  had discharged  the following  Committee  C. 
Members from Standing Committee C (in respect 
of  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited  Areas  (Pre-  Trawling  in 
vention)  Bill)  :—Mr.  Burns,  Mr.  Masterman,  prohibited 
and  Sir  Edward  Strachey;  and  had  appointed ^prevention.) 
in  substitution  (in  respect  of  the  said  Bill):  Bill, 
the  Lord  Advocate,  Mr.  Solicitor  General  for 
Scotland, and Mr. Tennant. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time. 

Police  Forces 
(Weekly . 
Rest-Day.) 

Ordered,  That the Minutes  of  Evidence taken 
before  the  Select  Committee  on  Police  Forces 
'  (Weekly  Rest  - Day),  appointed  in  the  last 
Session of  Parliament,  be referred  to  the Select 

Mr. Fenwick further reported  from  the Com-  standing 
mittee;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing  Committee  C. 
Committee  C  the  following  Fifteen  Member* 
(in  respect of  the Trawling  in  Prohibited  Areas  Trawling  in 
(Prevention) Bill):—Mr.  Guy Wilson, Mr. Essie- Prohibited 
mont,  Mr.  Cathcart  Wason,  Mr.  Sutherland,Areas 

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127 

(.Prevention) 	 Sir  John  Demur,  Mr.  Vaughaii-Davies,  Mr. 
Bill. 	

And  it  being after  Eleven  of  the  clock, the 
Havelock  Wilson, Mr.  Ramsay Macdonald,  Mr. Chairman  left  the  Chair  to make  his Report to 
Power,  Sir  Thomas  Esmonde,  Major Anstrutker-the  House. 
Gray,  Sir  George Doughty, Sir  Henry Seymour 
King, Mr.  Stanier,  and  Captain  Waring. 

Resolution to be  reported. 

Table. 

Ordered, That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the  Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had come to a Resolution. 

Metropolitan 
Ambulances 
Bill. 

B i ll  1 6 9. 

Sir  William  Collins,  supported  by  Colonel 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to-

Lochwood, Sir  Walter Foster, Sir  William Bull,  morrow. 
Mr. Dickinson,  Mr.  Corrie  Grant, Mr.  Steadman,  The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
Mr.  Straus,  Mr.  John  William  Wilson,  and 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed  to 
Mr.  Waterloio, presented  a  Bill  to  enable  the 
move, That  the  Committee  may have  leave  to 
London  County  Council  to  establish and  main­
sit again. 
tain  an  Ambulance  Service  in  London:  And 
the  same  was  ordered  to  be read a second time 
upon  Monday  the  10th  day of  May  next;  and 
to  be printed. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve  itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Waye and 

Association  of 
Port  Sanitary 
Authorities 
(Expenses) 
Bill. 

Bill 170. 

Mr. Ferens, supported  by  Sir  Hoioell  Davies, 
Mr.  Stuart,  and  Sir  Luke  White, presented  a 
Bill  to legalise  the payment of  a subscription  to 
the  funds  of  the  Association  or  the  Council: 
And  the  same  was  ordered to  be read  a second 
time  upon  Tuesday  the  11th  day of  May  next; 
and to  be printed. 

Supplv 
(5th  allotted 
Day.) 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into the  Committee of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.)  


Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments  

Estimates,  1909-10.  


Revenue  Departments.  

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
a sum not exceeding £12,277,930  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty,  to  complete  the  sum  necessary 
to  defray the  charge  which will  come  in  course 
of  payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the 
31st  day  of  March  1910  for  the  Salaries  and 
Expenses  of  the  Post  Office,  including  Tele­
graphs  and Telephones: 

Whereupon  Motion  made, and  Question  pro­
posed,  That  Item  A  (Chief  Offices) be reduced 
by  £500.— (Sir  Edward Sassoon.) 

And  it being  a quarter of  an hour after Eight 
of the clock, and  there  being  Private  Business 
set down  by  direction  of  the  Chairman of  Ways 
and Means" under  Standing Order  No. 8, further 
proceeding was postponed without  Question  put. 

Committee  of  Ways and  Means ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  secretary  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Board  the Board of 
of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

ffiSSSSe, 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time  Bill, 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Assistant 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster  Postmaster 
General  Bill; 

General  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order of  the day being  read, for resuming  cinemato­
the adjourned Debate  on  the  Question proposed s r a P h  Bill, 
upon  the  21st  day  of  this  instant  April,  That 
the  Cinematograph  Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time ; 

Ordered,  That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Buildings  and 

Second  Reading  of  the Buildings  and Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill;

or  8  1

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Trade  Boards 

Second  Reading  of the Trade  Boards Bill; 

Bill. 

The  Kilkenny,  Castlecomer,  and  Athy  Rail­
way  Bill  was, according  to Order, read  a second 
time, and committed. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Postponed proceeding cn Amendment to Ques­
tion proposed  on consideration  of  Question, That 
a  sum not exceeding  £12,277,930  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty,  to  complete the  sum  necessary  to 
defray the  charge  which will  come  in  course  of 
payment during  the  year ending on the 31st day 
of  March  1910 for the Salaries  and  Expenses of 
the  Post  Office, including  Telegraphs  and  Tele­
phones  ; 

Which  Amendment  was, That  Item A  (Chief 
Offices)  be  reduced  by  £500 — (Sir  Edward 
Sassoon),—resumed. 

Question  put, That Item  A  (Chief  Offices) be 

reduced bv  £500. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the f Sir Edward  Sassoon, 

Yeas, 

\ M r.  Harmood-Banner  : 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 


Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  Inland  

Revenue  Bill; 

Revenue BiU. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

to-mox-row. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Election  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Election  of  Aldermen  Aldermen  in 
BZS Bill. 
in Municipal Boroughs  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the House  Letting 

Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting  and  and  Rating 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill; 
(Scotland) 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

61. 

upon  Monday next. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
I Mr. Herbert Lewis: 

Noes, 

Original  Question put, and agreed to. 

204. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking  Supply 

into  consideration  the  Sixth  of  the Resolutions ^e2n0jtMarchJ 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day  of  March  last,  were  (Deferred 

V o l ..  161. 

R  4	 

Resolution.) 

Kilkenny, 
Castlecomer, 
and  Athy 
Railway  Bill. 

Supply  (Civil 
Services and 
Revenue 
Departments 
Estimates.) 

 
128 

27th  April 

1909. 

[No.  44. 

reported  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the 
22nd  day  of  M arch  last; 

Ordered, That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

into further consideration  upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Law  Agents 

Second  Reading  of  the  Law  Agents  (Scotland)  ^cotiand) 
Act  Amendment  Bill;  

Amendment 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time BlU> 

upon Thursday  next. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.J 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Places of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ojpen Spaces 

Second  Reading of  the  Open  Spaces (Scotland)  C»c°tiand) 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Rule 

Second  Reading  of  the Rule  Committee  Bill  ; 

Committee 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Mercantile 
Corporations 
and  Companiea 
(Municipal 
Franchise) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Mercantile  Corporations 
and  Companies  (Municipal  Franchise)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

Road  Traffic 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Road  Traffic  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read  a  second time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Death 
Certificates 
(Charges)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Death  Certificates 

Second  Reading  of 
(Charges)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Upon Thursday  next. 

Ecclesiastical 
Assessments 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Ecclesiastical  Assess­
ments (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  the 6th day of  May  next. 

Cheap  Trains 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the  Cheap  Trains  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read a  second time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Factory  and 
Workshop 
Act  (1901) 
Amendment 
Bill.  . 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Factory  and  Workshop 
Act  (1901) Amendment  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Honrs of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Sur­
facemen)  Bill; 

(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Remission  of  Surcharges  (Dublin)  Bill  Remission  of 

was, according  to  Order, read a second  time. 

° 

' 
_ 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Select  Committee  of  Five  Members,  Three  to 
be  nominated  by  the  House  and  Two  by  the 
Committee  of  Selection. 

_ 

(Dublin)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  all  Petitions  against  the  Bill 
presented  Five  clear days before  the  meeting  of 
the  Committee be  referred  to the  Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Petitioners  praying  to  be 
heard  by  themselves,  their  Counsel,  or  Agents, 
be heard  against the  Bill,  and  Counsel  heard  in 
support of the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Committee  have  power  to 

send for persons, papers, and records. 

Ordered, That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee.—(Mr. Nannetti.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning 
Second Reading  of the Pawning Industrial  Tools  Industrial 
T o o l s B m-
Bill; 

° 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pedlars Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-  Amendment 
ment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  the  11th day  of May  next. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to  

sit  till  thirteen  minutes  after  Eleven  of  

the  clock, adjourned till  to-morrow.  


Theatres and 
Music  Halls 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music 
Halls  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Rights)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act, 
(1875) Amendment (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

STANDING  COMMITTEES. 
Distribution by Mr.  Speaker, pursuant  to Stand­
ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

N a me   of  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee. 

to-morrow. 

Board   of  T r a de  B i ll 

B . 

Police  Super­
annuation 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Superannuation 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

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28th April 	

129 

[No. 45.] 
Wednesday, 28th April  1909. 

The  House met at a quarter of an hour 
before Three  of the  clock. 

North and 
South Shields 
Electric 
Railway  Bill. 

P R A Y E R S. 

THE  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  North  and  South 

Shields  Electric  Railway  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be read a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

London and 
North 
Western 
Railway  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read,  for the 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  and  North 
Western  Railway  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 
upon  Thursday  the 6th day  of  May  next,  at a 
quarter of  an hour after Eight  of the clock. 

Midland 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Midland  Railway  Bill 
\_Lords] ; 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 
Diseases of 
mTtoitos'

Shop Hours 
Act, 1904. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 
upon  Thursday  the  6th  day of May  next, at a 
quarter of an hour after Eight  of the  clock. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented, and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

Sir  Edward Strachey  presented, pursuant  to 
t l ie  d ! r e c t i ° n 8  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Order under  the  Diseases  of  Animals  Acts, 
1894  to  1903,  dated  the  22nd  April  1909, 
defining  a Foreign  Animals  Quarantine  Station 
in the Port of London. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to 
the directions of  an Act of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Order  made  by  the  Secretary  for  Scotland 
under the Shop  Hours  Act, 1904,  providing  for 
the  early  closing of  certain classes of  Shops in 
the Burgh of  Aberdeen. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Savings Banks 
(Ireland.) 

No. 119. 

Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return  to an Order, 
dated  the 11th day of  March  last, for Returns 
relative to  Savings  Banks  (Ireland). 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie  upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Street 
Accidents 
caused by 
Vehicles 
(Scotland.) 

Ordered, That there be laid before this House 
a Return  showing, for  Scotland, the number  of 
Accidents  resulting  in  death or  personal  injury 
known  to  the  police  to  have  been  caused  in 
streets, roads,  or  public  places  by the Vehicles 
named  below,  during  the  year  ended  31st 
December  1908, in the following  form :— 

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V O L.   164. 

Resolved, That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-  Bast India 
sented to His Majesty, that He will be graciously  (Railways and 
laid 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be 
before  this  House  a  Return  showing  the 
estimated  position,  as regards  capital  expendi­
ture,  of  the  several  Railways  and  Irrigation 
Works  under  construction  in  India  on  the  31st 
day of  March  1909, and the  proposed  expendi­
ture thereon  during  1909-10  (in continuation of 
Parliamentary  Paper,  No. 144 of  Session  1908). 
—(Sir  Robert Price.) 

irrigation 
Works.) 

Mr.  Rose  reported  from  the  Committee  on Aidershot Gas 

the Aidershot  Gas and  Water  Bill;  That  with |£d Water 
respect  to  the Instruction  of  the House of  the 
24th  March,  evidence  was  laid  before  the 
Committee  that the  provisions  of  the  Bill were 
adequate  for the supply of  water  at reasonable 
rates  to  the agricultural  community  within the 
area  of  supply,  and  to  any person  or  persons 
from whom any existing  or natural  supply is or 
may  be withdrawn owing  to the works or under­
taking  authorised by the Bill. 

Mr. Rose further reported from the Committee; 
That they had examined the allegations contained 
in the Preamble  of  the Bill,  and  amended  the 
same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent  with  the 
provisions  of  the  Bill  as  passed  by  the Com­
mittee, and found  the same, as  amended, to  be 
true;  and had gone  through  the Bill  and made 
Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Rose  reported  from the Committee  on the  York  Town 

York  Town  and  Blackwater  Gas  (Electric  and  Black-
Lighting,  &c.)  Bill;  That  they  had examined ^kctric8 
the allegations contained in the Preamble  of the Lighting,  &c.) 
Bill,  and amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it Bill-
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed  by the  Committee,  and found the same, 
as amended,  to  be true ;  and had gone  through 
the Bill  and made Amendments  thereunto ; and 
had amended the Title,  as followeth:—A  Bill to  [Title 
empower  the York  Town  and Blackwater  Gas amended.] 
Company  to  supply  electricity,  and  to  confer 
further  powers  on them,  and for other purposes. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Rose  reported  from  the  Committee  on Private Bills 

Group  B  of  Private  Bills;  That,  for  the (Gro°P 
convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Thursday  the  6th  day  of  May 
next, at half  an hour after Eleven  of the clock. 
Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the Committee of  Selection 
Selection ;  That they had discharged the follow- ^mittles 
ing  Member  from  Standing  Committee  A  (in standing66 
respect  of  the  Licensed  Premises 
Days)  Closing  Bill)  :—Sir  William Anson-,  and 
had  appointed  in substitution  (in  respect  of  the  (Election 
said Bill):  Colonel  Hall  Walker. 

(Election  Committee A. 

Days) Closing 
Bill. 

Mr. Fenwick further reported  from  the  Com- Standing 
mittee;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing  Committee B. 
Committee  B  the  following  Fifteen  Members 
(in  respect  of  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill):  —  Board of 
Sir  Albert  Spicer,  Mr. Byles, Mr.  Walter  Rea, Trade  Bm­
Mr.  Lough, Mr. Pickersgill, Mr.  Robinson,  Mr.  

Watt, Mr. Joynson-Hicks,  Mr. Peel,  Mr. Thorn­
ton,  Mr.  Walrmid, Mr.  Edward  Barry,  Sir 
Walter Nugent, Mr. Maddison,  and Mr.  Curran. 

Mr.  Fenwick  further  reported  from  the  Com- Standing 
mittee ;  That they had discharged  the following  Committee'a 
Member from  Standing  Committee C (in respect 
of the Trawling in Prohibited Areas (Prevention)  Trawling in 
Bill):—Mr.  Findlay;  and  had  appointed  in Prohibited 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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27th  April 

1909. 

[No.  44. 

Areas 

substitution (in  respect  of  the  said  Bill):  Mr. 
Leicester  Harmsworth. 

Ordered, That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ecclesiastical 
Disorders  Bill. ^ 

The  Order for resuming, upon  Monday  next, 
a(jj0urned Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the 23rd  day  of  this  instant  April,  That 
the Ecclesiastical  Disorders  Bill  be now  read a 
second  time, was read, and  discharged. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

Infant  Life 
Protection 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Infant  Life  Protection 

Bill  be  read a second  time  to-morrow. 

Cruelty  to 
Animals 
(No. 3)  Bill. 

Mr.  George  Greenwood, supported  by  Mr. 
Stanger, Mr.  Henry Joseph Wilson,  Mr. Ramsay
Bill  172.  	 Macdonald,  Mr.  Snowden,  Mr.  Burt,  Mr. 
Pickersgill,  Dr.  Shipman, Mr.  Manfield,  Mr. 
Byles,  and Mr. Macharness, presented  a Bill  to 
amend the  Cruelty  to  Animals  Acts,  1849  and 
1854 :  And the  same was  ordered  to  be read a 
second  time upon  Wednesday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Mr.  Waring,  supported  by  Mr. Sutherland, 
Poor  Law 
Amendment  Mr.  Ainsworth, and  Mr.  Menzies,  presented  a 
(Scotland') 
Bill  to  simplify the mode of  raising  the  Assess-
Bill. 
ment  for  the  Poor  in  Scotland  :  And  the  same 
B i ll  173.  was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Wednesday  the  12 th day of  May  next ;  and  to 
be printed. 

Bill 174.

Highways  Bill.  Mr.  Arthur Stanley,  supported  by Mr. Lough,
  Sir  William  Bull,  Mr.  Rose, Mr. Joynson-Hicks,
Mr.  Isaacs,  Mr.  Astbury,  and  Mr. Courthope,
presented a Bill  to provide for the establishment 
of  a  Highway  Commission  for  England  and 
Wales,  and  for  the  amendment  of  the  Laws 
relating  to  Highways  and  Bridges  in  England 
and  Wales,  and  for  other  purposes :  And  the 
same was ordered to  be read a second  time upon 
Wednesday  next;  and to be  printed. 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Buildings and 

Second  Reading  of the  Buildings  and Engineer- ^"f^Bm g 
ing  Works  Bill; 

° 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Army 

take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made (Annual) Bl11­
by  the  Lords  to  the Army  (Annual)  Bill;  and 
the same were twice read, and agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made by  their 
Lordships. 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving  Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  [l2e7t0hrtApril] 
the 27th day of this instant  April;

e p o r

' 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Supply. 

Committee  of  Supply ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to  morrow, 

resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  clay  being  read,  for  the Ways and 

Committee  of  Ways and Means ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 
Bill 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  , and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Public 
Accounts. 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Robert Balfour  be  added 
to  the  Committee  of  Public  Accounts.—(Mr. 
Joseph  Pease.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  Land 
[Advances, 

Committee  on Irish  Land  [Advances,  See.] ; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Trade  Boards 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the  Trade  Boards  Bill; 

And  a  Motion  being made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second time ; 

An  Amendment was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
"  That" to  the  end of the  Question,  and  adding 
the  words  "  in  the  opinion  of  this  House,  no 
legislation  can  be effective  to secure  fair  wages 
for  workers  in  this  country  which  does  not 
prevent  foreigners  who  work  at  lower  wages 
from sending the product of their cheaper labour 
here  in  competition  with  them"—(Mr.  Harry
Marks'),—instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That the 
words proposed  to  be  left out stand part of  the 
Question :—The said proposed  Amendment was, 
with leave  of  the  House,  withdrawn. 

And  the Main  Question  being  put; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be now  read  a  second 
time :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  a second 
time, and committed  to a Standing  Committee. 

Cinemato­
graph Bill. 

The Order of the day being  read, for  resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  21st  day of  this  instant  April,  That 
the  Cinematograph  Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time; 

A  Motion  was  made, and  the  Question  was Accidents  in 

proposed,  That,  in view  of  the  number  of  fatal  Mines, 
and non-fatal  Accidents  in  Mines, this House  is 
of  opinion  that  a  considerable  improvement  in 
the  safety  of  Mines  might be  secured  were  the 
Laws  affecting  mining more rigorously  applied, 
and  that  to  ensure  this  the  staff  of  mine 
inspectors should be augmented—(Mr.  Glover):
—And  the  said  Motion  was, with leave of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dogs 

Second  Reading  of  the Dogs (Exemption)  Bill;  (Exemption) 

And  a  Motion  being made, and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time :—And  a  Debate  arising  there­
upon ; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question  


being  proposed,  That  the  Debate  be  now 
adjourned — (Mr.  Herbert  Samuel) :— And  a 
Debate  arising  thereupon;  


And  it being  Eleven of the  clock, the  Motion  Motion for  the 

for the adjournment  of  the  Debate  lapsed  with-  Adjournment 
out  Question  put;  and  the  Debate  on  theof  the  Debate 
Question, That the Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time, stood  adjourned. 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 






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mh—29th  April 

181 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Sir  R. 
Whittington's  Second Reading of  Sir R. Whittington's  Charity 
Charity  Bill. 

Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Bridgend 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Ba°t£tEnglish  S e c o n  d  Beading of the Bridgend  (Hope  English 
Chapel, &c.)  Baptist  Chapel,  & c .  )  Charity  Bill; 
Charity  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

[No.  46.] 

Thursday,  2m  April  1909. 

The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P  R  A T  E  R  S. 
HE  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Jones's 

Second  Reading  of  Jones's Almshouse  and ^ ^ ^  e  and 

Grammar  School Foundation  Bill; 

School  * 

T

John 
Marshall's 
Charity  Bill.  Bill  ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  Charity 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time  Foundation 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Great Western 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Lichfield  and 
c£nSde°Utional  S e c o n  d  heading  of  the  Lichfield and  Longdon 
Chapels and  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust  Property Charity  Bill ; 
Charity  bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 

Dewsbury 
and  Batlev 
Chapel8^0  Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill; 
Charities  Bill.  Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Wortley 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Congregational  Second  Reading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational 
S U u  .  Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow.  „ 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Asylum 
Officers' Super- Second  Reading  of  the  Asylum  Officers' Super­
(ScoTland) 
Bill-

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

animation  (Scotland)  Bill; 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Mercantile 
Corporations  Second  Reading  of  the  Mercantile  Corporations 
(Munidpaf 1 65   a nd   Companies  (Municipal  Franchise)  Bill; 
Franchise) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Tuesday  next. 

Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the  Sale  of  Margarine  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

Public  Health 
Act(1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights)  Bill. 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

Paper. 

to-morrow. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial 
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Pedlars Acts 
Amendment  Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-
Bill. 

ment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

And  then  the  House, having  continued  to 
sit till three minutes after  Eleven  of  the 
clock, adjourned till to-morrow. 

V O L.   164. 

Second Reading of  the  Great  Western  Railway   ^  ^ 
(General  Powers)  Bill; 

Powers)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Thursday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of  the  clock. 

Several Public  Petitions  were presented, and Public 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His Poor Laws and 

Relief  of 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Appendix  to Distress 
the  Report  of  the  Royal  Commission  on  the (Royal 
Poor  Laws and  Relief  of  Distress.  Vol.  X X  . 
Report  by  Mr. Cyril  Jackson  on  Boy  Labour; 
together with  a Memorandum  f rom the  General 
Post  Office  on  the  conditions of employment of 
Telegraph  Messengers. 

Commission.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  also  presented,  pur-Metropolitan 

suant to the  directions of  an  Act  of  Parliament, 
—Accounts  showing  the  suras  received  and 
expended  for  the  purposes  of  the  Metropolitan 
Police  and  Police  Pension  Funds  during  the 
year ending  31st March  1909. 

Police. 

No. 120. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie upon  the 

Table;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  the 
Metropolitan  Police  be printed. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey  presented,  by  Egypt 

His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Reports  by ( NV
His  Majesty's  Agent  and  Consul  General  on 
the Finances,  Administration,  and  Condition  of 
Egypt  and the  Soudan  in  1908. 

19090 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Ordered, That there be laid  before this House  Financial 

a  Copy  of  Statement of  Revenue  and  Expendi­
ture  as laid before the  House  by  the  Chancellor 
of the Exchequer  when  opening  the  Budget.— 
(Mr.Hobhouse.) 

j 2 i 

Mr.  Hobhouse  accordingly  presented  the  said 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Mr.  Osmond  Williams  reported  from  the  Great  Central 

Committee  on  the  Great  Central  Railway   ^  ^ 
(Various  Powers)  Bill;  That they had examined powereTBiii. 
the  allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of 
the  Bill, and amended  the same  so as  to  make 
it  consistent  with the provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed  by the  Committee,  and  found  the same, 
as  amended,  to be  true;  and had gone  through 
the  Bill  and made Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr. Osmond  Williams reported  from the  Com  Railway Bills 

mittee on  Group  1  of  Railway  Bills ;  That, for  ( G m u  P  *•) 
the convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 

s  2 

 
29th April. 

1909. 

[No..46. 

adjourned  till  Thursday  next,  at  half  an  hour 
after Eleven  of the  clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Business of 
Means  have  precedence  this day of the Business ^ays°and 
of  Supply.—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

Means.) 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means  reported 
Anglo-Argentine  Tramways  Company  Bill 

Anglo- 
Tramwars 
Company Bill  [Lords],  with  Amendments. 
[Lords.-] 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means reported 
the  Wirral  Railway  ( Extension  of  Time)  Bill 

Wirral 
Bailway 
W) nBiT  °f   i L o r d s l  with  Amendments. 
[Lords.] 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Heckmond- 
wike and 
GMKII  6 
[Lords.] 

Table;  and be printed. 

The  Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Heckmondwike and 
Liversedge  Gas  Bill  [Lords] ;_That  they  had 
examined  the  allegations  contained  in  the  Pre­
amble  of  the  Bill, and  amended  the same so as 
to  make it  consistent  with  the provisions of  the 
Bill  as passed  by  the  Committee,  and found  the 
same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and  had  gone 
through the  Bill  and  made Amendments  there­
unto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Land 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 

Prorisional

£ r 0m 

t he 

C o t u m i t t ee 

on  the  Land  Drainage 
Order (No. 2)  Provisional  Order  (No.  2)  Bill;  That  they had 
considered  the  Order  therein  contained  ;  that 
Bill. 
Srder S Onal 
Order  ought  to  be  confirmed;  and 
that  they  had  directed  him  to  report the  Bill, 
confirmed.] 
with  an Amendment,  to the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 
Land 
Drainage 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Land  Drainage 
OXTnoIs)  Provisional  Order  (No.  3)  Bill;  That  they  had 
considered  the  Order  therein  contained  ;  that 
BiU. 
said  Order  ought  to  be confirmed:  and  that 
[Provisional 
they  had directed  him to report the  Bill, without 
confirmed.] 
Amendment,  to  the  House. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  the third time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to-
Trawlers' 
Certificates  morrow,  the  Trawlers'  Certificates  Suspension 
Suspension 
BiU. 

Bill  was read,  and  discharged. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Friday  the  14th  day  of  May  next. 

The  Earl  of  Ronaldshay,  supported  by  Mr. 

Easter 
Offerings BiU.  Talbot,  Lord  Robert  Cecil,  Mr.  Buchmaster,
BiU 175.  Mr. Evelyn  Cecil,  Mr.  Renton,  and  Mr. Lane-
Fox,  presented  a  Bill  to  exempt  voluntary 
Offerings  to  clergymen  and  ministers  from 
taxation :  And  the  same was ordered  to  be read 
a second  time to-morrow ;  and to be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Proceedings  of  the  Com-Business of 

mittee  of  Ways  and  Means, if  under considera- ™aH° 
tion  at  Eleven  of  the  clock  this night,  be not  Means.)1" 
interrupted  under the  Standing  Order  (Sittings 
of  the  House).—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

The House, according to  Order, resolved itself Ways and 

into  the  Committee  of  Ways  and Means. 

Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Spirits. 
1.  Motion  made, and  Question  put,  That  in 
addition  to  the  duties  of  Customs  now  payable 
into  Great  Britain  or 
on  spirits 
Ireland  there  shall,  on  and  after  the  thirtieth 
day  of  April  nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  be 
charged  the following  duties  (that  is  to say)  :— 

imported 

s.  d. 

For  every  gallon  computed   at  proof   of 
spirits  of  any  description  except  perfumed  

-
spirits 

-

-

-

-

-

-   3 9 

For  every  gallon   of  perfumed  spirits 

-

-

6  0 

liqueurs, 

For  every  gallon   of 

cordials, 
mixtures,  and  other  preparations  entered 
in  such  a  manner  as  to  indicate  that  the  

strength  is  not  to  be  tested 

- 5  5 
and  the duties of  Customs  on  the  articles  here­
after  mentioned,  being  articles  in  which  spirit 
is  contained,  or  in  the  manufacture  of  which 
spirit is used, shall  be proportionately  increased, 
and shall be  as follows :— 

-

-

-

-

Chloral  hydrate 
Chloroform 
Collodion 
Ether  acetic 
-
Ether  butyric 
Ether  sulphuric 
Ethyl,  iodide  of 
Ethyl  bromide 
Ethyl  chloride 

-

£  s.  d. 
the  lb. 
0  1  9 

the  lb. 
0  4  4 

the  gallon  1  14  11 

the  lb. 
0  2  7 

the  gallon  1  1  10 

the  gallon  1  16  6 

the  gallon  0  19  0 

the  lb. 
0  1  5 

the  gallon  1  1  10 


- 
- 
- 
- 
- 
- 
- 
- 
- 

—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for the I Mr. Joseph Pease, 
(Master  of  Elibank: 

Yeas, 

)  9„.

J 

Tellers  for the f Mr. Haviland-Burke,


Noes, 

[Mr.  Boland: 

120. 


2.  Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  in 
addition  to the  duty  of  Excise  now  payable for 
every gallon computed at proof of spirits distilled 
in  the  United  Kingdom  there  shall,  on  and 
after  the  thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen 
hundred  and  nine,  be  charged  the  following 
duty  (that  is to say) :— 

s.  d. 
For every gallon of spirits computed at proof  3  9 
and  so on in  proportion  for any  less  quantity.— 
(Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the J Mr. Joseph Pease, 

(Master  of  Elibank : 


Yeas, 

Tellers for the /Mr.  Huviland-Burke, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Boland:  


^  279. 

} 

121. 


Viscount  Morpeth, supported  by  Mr. Stanier, 
Clerks of  the 
Peace and  Mr.  John  Wilson, Mr.  Mutton, Mr.  Chance,  Mr. 
Councils 
Talbot,  Mr.  Rogers,  and  Sir  John  Kennaway, 
(No°2)  Bill,  presented  a Bill to  amend  the  Law  with  regard 
to the appointment  of  Clerks  of  the Peace  and 
County  Councils:  And  the  same was ordered  to 
be  read  a  second  time  to-morrow ;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Bill 176. 

Tobacco. 

3.  Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  in 
lieu  of  the  duties  of  Customs  now  payable  on 
tobacco imported  into  Great  Britain  or  Ireland 
there  shall,  on  and  after  the  thirtieth  day  of 
April  nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  be  charged 
the following  duties  (that is  to say) :— 

 












No.  46.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

mil—mil  April 

133 

Upon  tobacco  unmanufactured,  viz.   :—  


Containing  ten  pounds   or  more  of  moisture  

in  every  one  hundred  pounds  weight 
thereof— 

Unstripped 
Stripped

-
. 

-
. 

-

- 

. 

. 

the  lb. 
the  lb. 

Containing  less  than ten pounds  of  moisture 
in  every  one  hundred  pounds  weight 
thereof— 

the  lb. 
the  lb. 

Unstripped 
Stripped 

- 
-

- 
Upon  tobacco  manufactured,  viz.   :— 
- 

-

-

the  lb. 
Cigars 
the  lb. 
Cigarettes 
the  lb. 
Cavendish  or  Negrohead 
Cavendish  or  Negrohead  manufactured   in 
the  lb. 
-
Other  manufactured  tobacco 
the  lb. 
Snuff  containing  more than thirteen  pounds 
of  moisture  in every one  hundred  pounds 
weight  thereof 

bond

- 

- 

- 

- 

-

-

-

-

the  lb.  4  5 

Snuff  not  containing  more  than  thirteen 
pounds of  moisture in  everyone  hundred 
pounds  weight  thereof 

- 

-

the  lb.  5  4 

—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

The  Committee proceeded  to a Division. 

£ 

8* 

1 

0 
8 
4 

8 
8 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the  

Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That  

the  Committee  had come to several  Resolutions.  

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may have  leave  to 
sit again. 

Resolved, That this House  will,  upon  Monday 
next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Supply. 

Committee  of  Supply  ; 

Resolved,  That this House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

The  Order of  the day being read, for receiving  Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of ^2e7t0hrtApril] 
the 27th day of this instant April; 

epor " 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

Friday, 30*A April  1909 : 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 
~ 
Tellers for the I 
h ­
Noes,  
[Mr. Henry Forster : 

\Master of  Elibank : 
(Sir  Alexander Acland-

j- 267. 

The Order of  the day being  read, for resuming  cinemato 
the adjourned Debate  on the  Question  proposed  graph Bill, 
upon the 21st day of this instant April,  That the 
Cinematograph  Bill  be now read  a second time'; 
Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

130. 

till  Monday  next. 

i 

4.  Motion made, and Question put, That in lieu 
of  the  duties of  Excise  now payable  on  tobacco 
grown  in  Ireland  there  shall,  on  and after  the 
thirtieth day of April nineteen hundred and nine, 
be charged the following duties (that is to say):— 

Upon  tobacco  unmanufactured,  viz.:— 

s.  d. 

Tobacco  containing  ten  pounds   or  more  of 
moisture  in  every  one  hundred  pounds 
-
weight  thereof  -

- 

-

the  lb.  3  6 

Tobacco  containing  less  than  ten  pounds 
of  moisture  in every one hundred  pounds 
-
weight  thereof  -

- 
Upon  tobacco  manufactured,  viz.:— 

-

the  lb.  3  11 

Cavendish  or  Negrohead  manufactured   in 

-

-

-

- 

bond 

the  lb.  4  8 

-
and that duties of Excise  at  the same rates shall 
be  charged  on  tobacco  grown  in  England  or 
Scotland, and  that  there  shall  be charged  on a 
licence  to  be  taken  out  annually  by  every 
person  growing,  cultivating,  or  curing  tobacco 
in England  or  Scotland  an  Excise  duty  of  five 
shillings.—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the / Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

I Master of  Elibank  : 

Tellers for t \ ^  { v J l e f a n d er
) 
[Mr.  Henry Forster-. 

NOP* 
-noes, 

H O O D>  

A c l a n d ~

.) 257. 

  1 _  0 < 
F 1 2 5 ' 
J 

Motor  Spirit. 
5.  Resolved, That  there  shall  be  charged  on 
motor spirit,  on  and  after  the  thirtieth  day  of 
April  nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  a  Customs 
import  duty  of  three  pence  per  gallon, and  on 
and after the first day of June nineteen hundred 
and  nine,  an  Excise  duty of  the  like  amount; 
and that there shall be  charged,  on and after the 
last-mentioned  date, on a licence  to be taken out 
annually  by a  manufacturer  of  motor  spirit  an 
Excise  duty of  one pound, and on a licence  to be 
taken  out  annually  by  a  dealer  in  motor  spirit 
an Excise  duty  of  five  shillings. —  (Mr.  Chan­
cellor of the  Exchequer.) 

Resolutions  to be  reported. 

V O L.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Buildings and 

Second  Reading of the Buildings  and  Engineer-  Engineering 
ing  Works  Bill  ; 
Works Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a  second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Revenue  BU1­

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish  Land 
[Advances, 

Committee  on  Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.] ; 

Resolved,  That this  House will, upoij  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 

Second  Reading of the  Local  Authorities (Legal  Authorities 
Expenses)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read  a  second  time  BiU­

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sea Fisheries 

Second  Reading of the Sea Fisheries Regulation  Regulation 
(Scotland)  Bill; 
^Scotland) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap Tsains 

Second  Reading  of the  Cheap  Trains  Bill;

Bil1­

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Law Agents 
Second Reading  of  the Law  Agents  (Scotland) 0^otlaiK0 
Act  Amendment  Bill;  
Amendment 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a  second time Bl11, 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Open Spaces 

Second  Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland)  (Scotland) 
Bill; 

BiiL 

S 3 

­


 
134 

29th—30$  April, 

1909. 

[No. .46, 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday next, 

Eule 
Committee 
Bil). 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the Rule  Committee  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Honrs  of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Hours of  Labour  (Sur­
facemen)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Infant  Life 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Infant Life  Protection 
Bill j 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pedlars  Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend- Amendment 
ment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

And  it being  after  half-past  Eleven  of  the  

clock  on  Thursday  evening, Mr.  Speaker  

adjourned  the  House  without  Question  

put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order,  

it  being  then  twenty-five  minutes  after  

Twelve  of  the  clock  on Friday  morning,  

till this day. 


STANDING  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution  by  Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Sir  E. 
Whittingtori's  Second Reading of  Sir R. Whittington's Charity 
Charity  Bill. 

Bill; 

Name of Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

this day. 

T r a de  Boards  B i ll  -

Standing 
Committee. 

C. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Bridgend 
Ba°tistEngliSh  S e c o n (  1  Reading  of the Bridgend  (Hope  English 
Chapel,  &c.)  Baptist  Chapel, &c.)  Charity  Bill  ; 
Charity  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

this day. 

John 
Marshall's 
Charitv  Bill.  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  Charity 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be read  a  second time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,sfor  the 
Lichfield  and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Lichfield and  Longdon 
Longdon 
Chapeifandnal Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust  Property  Charity  Bill; 
Charity  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 

Dewsbury 
and  Batley 
Cha|el g a t i 0 n al  Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill; 
Charities Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a  second  time 

this day. 

Wortley 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Congregational  Second  Reading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational 
S t U n i  .  Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill be  read  a second time 

this day. 

Sale  of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  (1875)  


Public  Health 
(1875) 
Amendment  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill;  

(Water 
Rights)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time  


^ 

upon  Monday  next. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial 
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Wednesday  next. 

[No.  47.] 

Friday,  30th April  1909. 

The  House met  at Twelve  of the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 
f\RDERED, 
^ 
the third time upon  Monday  next. 

That  the  London,  Chatham,  London, 

and  Dover  Railway  Bill  [Lords]  be  read  Chatham, 

Railway  Bill 
[Lords. ] 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  Land 

to  take  into  consideration  the  Land  Drainage 
Provisional  Order  (No.  2)  Bill, as  amended  in  Order  (No, 2) 
the  Committee. 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  the third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The Land Drainage Provisional  Order (No. 3) Land 
Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  the  third drainage 
time and passed. 

X5S?8£a> 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to Bil1­

the  Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His  Factories  and 

Majesty's  Command, —Copy  of  Report  of  the  Workshops. 
Chief  luspector  of  Factories  on  the  adminis­
tration  of  the Factory and  Workshop  Act, 1901, 
by  Local  Authorities  in  respect of  Workshops, 
Out-work, &c.  in the year  1907. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Buchanan  presented,  —- Return  to  an Bast  India 
Address to  His Majesty,  dated  the  27th day  of  (Financial 
this  instant April,  for a Return  relative to East  yt^ement-) 
N o '  1 22 • 
India (Financial  Statement). 

Ordered, That  the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Bankruptcy 
directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament, — Act, 1883 
Account, prepared  in  pursuance  of  the  Bank-
ruptcy  Act,  1883,  showing  the  Receipts  and
Expenditure  on  account  of  Bankruptcy  Pro­
ceedings  during  the  year  ended  31st  March 
1909. 

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No.  47.]  9  EDW.  V I I. 

<^mpaiiies 
Actmi890."

.No  124 

Account showing the Receipts and Expenditure 
  account  of  Proceedings  under the  Companies 
o n
(Winding-up)  Act,  1890,  during the year ended 
31st March  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Papers do lie  upon the 

put  ; 

30 th  April. 

135 
Then  the  Main  Question,  so amended, being 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon this day  six months. 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

RoyalAssent. 

A  Message  was  delivered  by  Admiral  Sir 
Henry  Frederick  Stephenson, Gentleman  Usher 
of  the Black  Rod: 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Criminal  Law 
Second  Reading  of  the  Criminal  Law  and  and  Procedure 
Procedure  (Ireland)  Act,  1887  (Repeal)  Bill; 

i„ t  is87 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time  (Repeal)  Bill, 

upon  Friday  next. 

Mr.  Speaker, 

The  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commission,  for  declaring  His Royal 
Assent  to  several  Acts  agreed  upon  by  both 
Houses, desire  the immediate attendance of  this 
Honourable  House  in  the  House  of  Peers, to 
hear the  Commission read. 

Accordingly  Mr.  Speaker,  with  the  House, 
went up  to  the  House of  Peers :—And  having 
returned; 

Mr.  Speaker reported, That the House,  at the 
desire  of  the Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commission, had been at the House of 
Peers, where a Commission under the Great Seal 
was  read,  giving,  declaring,  and  notifying  the 
Royal  Assent  to  the  several  Acts  therein  men­
tioned ;  and that  the  Lords  thereby  authorised 
had declared  the Royal Assent to the said  Acts, 
as follow: 

1.  Army  (Annual)  Act,  1909. 
2.  Torrens' Divorce  Act,  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the  adjourned  Debate  on the 
Dogs 
(Exemption)  Question  proposed  upon  the  28th  day  of  this 
Bill. 
instant  April,  That  the  Dogs  (Exemption)  Bill 
be now  read  a  second  time,  be  resumed  upon 
Wednesday  next. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee  of 
Selection 
(Standing 
Selection ;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol-
Committees.) 
lowing Member  from  Standing  Committee  C :— 
Standing 
Committee  C.  Mr.  Tennant;  and had appointed in  substitution 
(in respect of  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited  Areas 
Trawling  in 
Prohibited 
(Prevention)  Bill):  Mr.  T.  W.  Russell. 
Areas 
(Prevention) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Unemployed 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Workmen Bill. g e c 0nd  Reading  of  the  Unemployed  Workmen 

Bill; 

And  a Motion  being made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to be made to 
the  Question, by  leaving  out  the  word "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day  six  months."—  (Mr. 
Maddison.) 

And  the  Question  being put, That  the  word 

"  now "  stand part of the  Question ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 

the  Local  Authorities  Authorities 

Second  Reading  of 
(Advertising)  Bill ; 

(Advertising) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read  a. second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Workmen's 
Second  Reading  of  the Workmen's  Compensa-  Compensation 
tion  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Medical  Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Medical  Acts  Amend-  Amendment 
ment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Handloom 
Second  Reading  of  the  Handloom  W e a v i ng  Weaving  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Easter 

Second  Reading  of the Easter  Offerings Bill; 

Offerings  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sea  Fisheries 

Second  Reading  of  the  Sea  Fisheries  Regula-  Regulation 
tion  (Scotland)  Bill; 
(bcotiand) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  infant  Life 
Second  Reading  of  the Infant  Life  Protection  Protection 
Bill; 

B111v 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Sir  R. 

Second Reading of  Sir  R. Whittington's Charity 
Bill;  

8 

7  1 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Bridgend 
Second  Reading  of the Bridgend (Hope  English ^0P5;tEtlgUsh 
Chapel, &c.) 
Baptist  Chapel, &c.)  Charity  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time Charity  Bm­

upon Thursday  next. 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the Left'. 
Tellers for  the j Mr. Hodge, 

Yeas, 

1 Mr. John  Ward : 

Tellers  for  theJ Master  of Elibank, 
(Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 

Noes, 

j  115. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  John 

Second  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  Charity 
Bill; 

1 228. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

So it  passed  in the  Negative. 
And  the  Question  being put, That  the  words 
"upon  this  day  six  months"  be  added  at the 
end  of  the  Question  :—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 
YOL.   164. 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Lichfield and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Lichfield and Longdon 
i 
Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property chaj^ifand"1 
Charity  Bill;
  Property 

T l U 3t
Charity  Bill. 

J

g   4 . 

 
 
 
30th April—3rd  May. 

1909. 

[No.  48. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Durham (County ) Electric Power Supply 
[Lords]  was  read  a  second  time,  and 

Bill 
committed. 

Durham 
(County) 
Electric Power 
Supply  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Dewsbury 
and  liatley 
Congregational 
Chapel 
Charities 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 
Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Wortley 
Congregational S e c o n d  Reading  of the Wortley  Congregational 
Chatty  Bill.

  Chapel  Charity  Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Sale  of Margarine  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a  second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Public 
Accounts 
(Second 
Report.) 

Colonel  Williams reported from the  Committee 
of  Public  Accounts;  That  they  had  made 
Progress  in  the  matters  to  them referred, and 
had directed  him  to  make  a  Report  thereof  to 
the  House. 

No. 125. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Public 
Accounts 
(Third 
Report.) 

Colonel  Williams reported from the  Committee 
of  Public  Accounts;  That  they  had  made 
further Progress in the matters to them referred, 
and had  directed  him  to  make a Report thereof 
to the  House. 

No. 126. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and  be printed. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant 
to  Standing  Order  No.  3,  it  being  then 
nine  minutes after Five  of  the clock,  till 
Monday  next. 

The  Great  Yarmouth  Corporation  Bill 
[Lords]  was read  a second time, and committed. 

Great 
Yarmouth 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered, That  the  London  County  Council 
(Money)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Thursday  next. 

London 
County 
Council 
(Money)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Westminster 
the  Westminster  City  City  Council 
g^oTll 

Second  Reading  of 
Council  (Superannuation,  &c.) Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second  time \.Lords-~\ 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Land  Drainage  Provisional  Order Land 
(No. 2)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  the  Drainage 
third time  and passed. 

& 5 £ S ? *) 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the Bill to BiU­

the  Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented, and  Public 

read ;  and ordered  to lie  upon the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 
Mr.  Burns  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Local 

Command, —  Copy  of  Thirty-seventh  Annual ^°™jmnent 
Report  of 
the  Local  Government  Board,
1907-8  (Supplement  containing  the  Report  of 
the  Medical  Officer for  1907 -8). 

  oar

  ' 

Mr.  Burns  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Motor Car 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Aot3, 
Order  made  by  the  Local  Government  Board 
under  the  Motor  Car  Acts  for  rescinding  the 
Regulations  prescribed  by  Subdivisions  (3) and 
(4)  of  Article  IY.  of  the  Motor  Cars  (Use and 
Construction)  Order,  1904. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

[No.  48.] 

Monday, 3rd May  1909. 
The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

[Lords] 
(Standing 
Orders not 
previously 
inquired into 
complied 
with.) 

Private  Bills  MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from one of the Examiners of  Petitions for 
Private  Bills, That  in  the case  of  the  following 
Bills, originating  in  the  Lords, and  referred  on 
the  First Reading thereof,  the  Standing  Orders 
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are 
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
viz.:— 

Frimley  and  Farnborough  District  Water 

Bill  [Zonfc]. 

Bungay  Water  Bill  [Lords]. 
Donington  Water  Bill  [Lords]. 
Dudley  Corporation  Bill  [Lords']. 
Wells  Gas Bill  [Lords]. 
Grantham  Water  Bill [Lords']. 

Ordered,  That the Bills be  read a second time. 

London, 
Chatham, 
and  Dover 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railway 
Bill  [Lords]  was, according  to  Order, read  the 
third time and passed. 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the Lords ;  and acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed to the same, without  Amendment. 

Mr.  Buchanan  presented,  by  His  Majesty's East India 
Command,—Copy  of  Review  of  Progress  of  (Education.) 
Education  in  India,  1902-7.  Vol.  I.,  Fifth 
Quinquennial  Review.  Vol.  II.,  Maps  and 
Tables. 

Mr. Buchanan  also  presented,—Return  to  an East India 
Address  to  His  Majesty,  dated  the  28th dav of (Bailways and 
April  last,  for  a  Return relative  to  East  India 
(Railways  and  Irrigation  Works). 

N o.  127. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon the 


Table ;  and that the  said Return  be printed. 


The  Lord  Advocate  presented, —  Return  to  Street  

I an Order, dated  the  28th  day of  April  last, for  Accidents  

Returns  relative  to  Street  Accidents  caused  by vehicles7  

Vehicles  (Scotland). 
(Scotland.) 

Ordered,  That the said Return do lie  upon the  No. 128. 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  pursuant  to  the direc-  Motor Car 

tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy  ofAots-
Regulations  made  by  the  Local  Government 
Board  for  Ireland  under  the  Motor  Car  Acts 
restricting  the  driving  of  Motor  Cars  on roads 
in the  Carrickfergus  Urban  District  of  County 
Antrim  to  a speed  not exceeding  ten  miles  an 
hour. 

Copy  of  Rules  and  Programme  of  Examina-  intermediate 

tions  for  1910  made  by  the 
Education  Board for Ireland. 

Intermediate^"^011 
(Ireland.) 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie  upon the 

Table. 



48.]

9 

VII. 

Army. 

Mr.  Secretary'  Ralddne  presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copies'  of  amended  Schemes made by the Army 
Council  in respect  of  certain  Territorial  Force 
Associations. 

Ordered,  That  the Said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

universityColleges  in  Wales,  and  teaSKers 
in elementary schools in  Wales, who entered 
for  the  final  certificate  examination  of  the 
Board  of  tldudafion, in  1§06,  1907,  1908, 
respectively, showing— 

(a)  the number  who were  successful  knd 

the number who failed ;  and also 

Railway 
Returns 
(Preliminary 
Statement.) 

Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Return  relating  to  the 
Railways  of  the  United  Kingdom  for  the  year 
1908 (Preliminary  Statement). 

Ravlw(kj,s 
Abandonment. 

Railways 
Abandonment, 

Mr.  Churchill  also presentecl, in  pursuance of 

Standing* Order  158  —Copy  of  Report  by the 
Board  of  Trade  respecting  the  North  West 
London  Railway  Bill, and the objects  thereof. 

Copy  of  Report  by  the  Board  of  Trade 
tespefetiiig  the i Edgware  £ndHampstead  Rail­
way  Bill, and the objects  thereof. 

Ordered^That  the  Pdftefc relative  to R&iltfay 
Returns  (Preliminary  Statement)  do  lie  upon 
the  Table;  and  that  the  Papers  relative  to 
Railways  Abandonment  be  referred  to  the 
Committees  on the Bills. 

t rdered, That there be  laid before this House 

eturh  giving  the  number  of  arrests  for 
Drunkenness  within  the  Metropolitan  Police 
District  of  Dublin  and, the;  Cities  of.  Belfast, 
Cork,  Limerick, and  Waterford, from  the  hour 
of  9 p.m. to  12 midnight on  Saturdays, and from 
12  midnight  to  8  a.m.  on  Sundays,  and  from 
8 a.m. 6h  Sunday till 2 p.m., and from 2 p.m. to 
7  p.m.,  from  7  p.m.  to  9  p.m.,  from  9  p.m. to 
12 . midnight,  from  ,12  nnianight  to  8  a.m.  on 
Monday,  betweenthe  1st  day  of  January ahd 
the 3ist  day of  December, both  days  inclusive^ 
for  the year  1908 ;  and  similar  Returns  for the 
rest of  Ireland  from  the  1st  day  of  January to 
the  31st  day  of  December, for  the year  1908 ; 
the arrests being given from  9 p.m.  on  Saturdays 
to 9 a.m. on Sundays, and from 9 a.m. on Sundays 
till 7 a.m. on Mondays.—(Mr. Sloan.) 

(b)  the	  number  who  were  studenti  it 
Welsh  training  colleges  or  the  day 
training  departments  of  the  Welsh 
fitiiversity  Colleges,  ahd  the  iuflfoer 
who  were not. 
—(Sir  Alfred fhomas.) 

The  Chairman  of  Wkfs  and  Means inferred.  Railway  Bills 

the  House  that  the  Committee  on  Group  2  Of < G r o uP  8-> 
Railway  Bills  not  being  appointed  to  mueet  till 
to-morrow, the  parties opposing  the,  Kilkenny, 
Castlecomer,  and  Athy  Railway  BilTj  which 
was Set  down  for consideration  on  the first day 
of  meeting  of  the  Committee,  had  appeared 
before  him  and  proved  that  the  , evidence  . of 
R.  Finlay Heron, of  the Town  Hall,  Blactrocti 
County  Dublin,  was  essential to  their  case, and 
that  his  attendance  could  not  be  procured 
without the intervention  of  the  House. 

Ordered, That R.  Finlay  Heroii do .at^eM tjbe 

Committee  on  Group  2  of  Railway  Bills  to­
morrow, at half an hour after Eleven of the clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Registration  of  Clubs  Registration  of 

(Ireland)  Bill  be  read  a  ^cond  fciflfe  u f f l n  ^ 
Friday  next. 

Ml" 

Mr. Fetiwick  reported  friSm the  Committer  of  Selection 
Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol- koSttfes}
lowing  Member  from  Standing  Committee  B standing 
(in  respect  of  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill)  :—Comifiitfe®  BV 
Mr.  Churchill;  and  had  appointed,  in  subatitu'-
tion (in  respect of the said Bill)  :  Mr.  Hob'house. 
Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

g m 

Table. 

Drunkenness 
(Ireland.) 

Training  of 
Teachers in 
Wales 
(including 
Monmouth­
shire.) 

Ordered,  That there  be laid  before this Housfe 

a Return  showing— 

(1)  The	  number  of  candidates  previously 
instructed or employed  in schools in  Wales 
who  entered  for  the  preliminary  certificate 
examination  in  1907  and 1908, respectively, 
showing— 

(a)  the number  who  were  successful  and 

the number  who failed ;  arid 

•  (b)  the number who  at that time were,  or 
within  a  year  previously  had  been, 
students  at  secondary  or  intermediate 
schools in  Wales,  arid  the  number who 
were  not; 

(2)  The	  number  of  students  who  were  ad­

mitted  into  the  training  colleges  and  the 
day training  departments  6f  the university 
colleges  in  Wales  in  the  autumn  of  1906, 
1907,  and  1908,  respectively,  stating  the 
qualifying examination  passed; 

(3)  The  number  of  students  at  (1)  training 
colleges  in  Wales,  and  (2)  day  training 
departments of  university colleges in  Wales, 
who  completed  their  periods of  training in 
1906, 1907, and  1908, respectively— 

(a)	  after  passing  through  approved 

university  degree  courses;  and 

(b)  after taking  some  final  examination 
other than a university  examination  ; 
showing  the number who were  successful ; 

(4)  The  number  of  students 
in  training 
*  colleges"  or  day  training  departments  of 

VOL.  164. 

Ordered, That  the  Irish  National  Schools  Irisji, Rational 
.

(Heating  and  Cleansing)  Bill  be  read  a second  Schools
time upon  Thursday  next. 

-mia

. 

­  

c S f n g f '  1 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Registration  of  Nurses  Registration  of 

(Scotland)  Bill  be  read
Friday  next. 

a

  second  time  upon Nurses^ 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone,  supported  by  Mr.  Check-

Herbert Samuel,  presented  a Bill  to  provide for 
checking the weight or measurement  of  materials industries  Bill, 
produced, handled,  or  gotten  by  workmen  paid  Bill 177. 
by  weight  or  measure  in  certain  Industries: 
And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be read a second 
time upon  Thursday  next;  and to  be printed'. 

in 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being Business of 
  ^  ^ 

put, That  the Proceedings  of  the  Committee  of
Ways  and  Means,  if  under  consideration  at  Means.) 
Eleven of the clock this night, be not interrupted 
under  the  Standing  Order  (Sittings  of  the 
House)—(The  Prime  Minister); 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas to  the  Right;  

The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph  f*$a*ft  


5 

Yeas,- 

(Master  of  MliHam : 
("Sir Alexander  Acland-

Tellers for the 
Noes, 

Hood 

[viscount Valehtia 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

223. 

105. 

 


3 rd May. 

1909. 

[No. 48. 

AVays an 3 
Means. 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into the  Committee of  Ways  and Means. 

to  be  made  to  the  Question, That  the Houses 
of  Parliament  Bill  be now read  a second time ; 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Tea. 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Customs  duty  now  charged  on  tea  shall 
continue  to  he  charged  until  the  first-  day  of 
July  nineteen  hundred  and  ten  (that  is  to 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London 

Second  Reading  of  the London  Elections  Bill;  Elections  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

Tea,  t 

-
—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 

- ,, 

-  the lb.  -  Fiye pence. 

- 

Whereupon  Motion  made, and  Question, That 
the Chairman  do  report Progress, and ask leave 
to sit again—(Mr.  Pretyman),—put, and  agreed 
to. 

• 

. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  acquainted  the 
House  that the  Committee  had  made  Progress 
in the matter to them referred j  and that he was 
directed  to move, That  the Committee may have 
leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again  resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

Ways and 
Means 
[29th  April] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for  receiving 
the  Report-from  the  Committee  of  Ways and 
Means  of  the  29th day of  April  last; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

Buildings and 
Engineering
Works  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of the  Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill  ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Marine 
Second Reading  of  the Marine Insurance (Gam-  Insurance 
bling  Policies)  Bill  ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 

Second  Reading;  of  the  Secretary  of the  Board 
of Agriculture  and Fisheries Bill; 

a^Ksheries 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time Bil1­

upon  Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Assistant 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster  Postmaster 
General Bill; 

£®eral 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a secondtime 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being 
Second Reading  of  the  Election 
in Municipal  Boroughs  Bill; 

read,  for  the  Election  of 
of  Aldermen  ^dermei>iQ 

Municipal 
Boroughs  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read 

a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

The Order of  the day being read, for resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  21st day  of  April  last, That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be now read  a second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  to-morrow. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  -Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Established 
Church 
(Wales)  Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church 
(Wales)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  to. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, 
&c.  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being 
Second  Reading  of  the  House 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill; 

read,  for  the  House  LettiDg 
Letting  and and Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

® 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking  Supply 

into  consideration  "the  Sixth  of  the  Resolutions  [R2c
which,  upon  the  23rd  day of  March  last, were  (Deferred 
reported  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the  Resolution.) 
22nd day of  March  last; 

2n0rtMarch] 

Ordered, That  the  said Resolution  be  taken 
into further consideration  upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship  ^ h j P  c h i  s 
(Enfranchisement) Bill; 

ment^Bill!86" 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Supply. 

Committee  of  Supply  ; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving  Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  L^th  April] 
the 27th day,of  April  last; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the Report  be received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish Land 

[Advances, 

Committee  on Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.] ; 

Irish  Land 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the Irish Land  Bill; 

Resolved,  That this House will,  upon  Monday  


next, resolve  itself into the said  Committee.  


Resolved,  That this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Metropolitan 
Second  Reading  of  the  Metropolitan  Sewers  Sewers and 
Drains Bill. 

r

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming  and Drains  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second  time 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which, 
upon the  20th  day  of  April  last,  was  proposed  upon  Tuesday  the  11th day  of  this instant  May. 

­


 
No. 48 ]  9  EDW.  VII. 

3rd—Uh  May. 

Town Tenants 
Bil1, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the Town  Tenants  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 
upon Tuesday  the  11th day  of  this instant  May. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Municipal 
Representation  Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Representa-
BlU" 

tion  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Territorial 
Army  Ballot  Second  Reading  of  the Territorial Army  Ballot 
Bill. 

Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Necessitous  Mothers 
(Assistance)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

Necessitous 
Mothers 
(Assistance) 
Bill. 

upon Monday  next. 

Under Sheriffs!
(County
S a n d ) } B i l i.

  The  Order of  the day being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs  (County 
  Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Standing  Committee: 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Theatres and 

Music Halls 

Bill. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music 
Halls  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

[No.  49.] 

Tuesday, 4th May  1909. 

The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 

before  Three  of the  clock.  


P R A Y E R S. 

THE  House proceeded  to take  into considera- Wirral 
tion  the  Wirral  Railway  (Extension  of 

Time)  Bill  [Lords'],  as  amended  in  the  Com- x ;  m e  )  B i ll 
mittee. 

[Lords.] 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

of 

The  House  proceeded  to take  into  considera- York  Town 

tion  the  York  Town  and  Blackwater  Gas 
(Electric  Lighting,  &c.) Bill,  as amended in the  (Electric 
Committee. 

Lighting, &c.) 
Bill 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Gas Light and 
 ^  e  Company 

into  consideration  the  Gas  Light  and
Company  Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee ; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

C o k e

sideration upon  Thursday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Resolution  of  the  Select  Standing 
Committee  on  Standing  Orders of  the 25th  day  ®vde™a  and 
of  March  last, with respect  to  the Torquay  and pa°^ton 
Paignton  Tramways  [Lords]  (Petition  for Bill),  Tramways 
be  referred  back  to  the  said  Committee,  and {Lords]) 
that  they  have  power  to  inquire  whether there 
are  any  special  circumstances  which  render  it 
just  and  expedient  that  the  Standing  Orders 
should  be dispensed  with  in  respect  of  the  said 
Petition.—(Mr.  Ellis.) 

Cheap Trains 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of  the  Cheap  Trains  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented, and  Public 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

v^Second 
Report. 

Law  Agents 
(Scotland) 
Act 
Amendment 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Law  Agents  (Scotland) 
Act  Amendment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

Ordered,  That the Paper  relative to  Interme-Intermediate 

diate  Education  (Ireland), which was  presented ?TdUjat?s 
upon  the  3rd  day  of  this  instant  May,  be 
printed. 

No. 129. 

to-morrow. 

Open Spaces 
(Scotland") 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the"  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland) 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Public Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Rights)  BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His  Military 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  on  the Prlsons­
discipline  and  management  of  Military  Prisons 
in  1908. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com- Land  Law 

mand,—Copy  of  Return  under  the  Land  Law 
(Ireland)  Act,  1887,  of  Eviction  Notices filed (Eviction 
during the quarter  ended 31st  March  1909. 
Notices.) 

to-morrow. 

Infant Life 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Infant Life  Protection 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit  till  nine  minutes after Eleven  of  the 
clock, adjourned till  to-morrow. 

VOL,  164. 

Copy  of  Annual Report  of  the Commissioners  Education 
(Ireland.) 

of  Education in Ireland for the year  1908. 

Ordered,  That the said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  —  Return  to  an Training of 
Order,  dated  the  3rd  day of  this instant  May, ^\chers  in 
for Returns relative to  Training  of  Teachers  in (incle^d;ng 
Wales  (including  Monmouthshire). 
Monmouth-

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table  ;  and be printed.

'
JNo   U 4

' 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  -His  Majesty's  Jamaica. 

Command, — Copy  of  further  Correspondence 
relating to the Earthquake at Kingston, Jamaica, 
on the  14th January  1907. 

Ordered,  That  the  said Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

T 2 +­

 
4th May. 	

,  49,  


Eeformatory 
and  Industrial 
Schools. 

Polling 
Districts 
(West  Riding 
of  Yorkshire.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Fifty-second 
Report,  for  the  year  1908,  of  the  Inspector 
of Reformatory  and  Industrial  Schools,  Part I., 
List of  Schools  and detailed  Reports. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur­
suant  to  the directions of  an  Act  of  Parliament, 
—Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
West  Riding  of  Yorkshire,  constituting  certain 
Polling  Districts 
in  the  Norman ton  Parlia­
mentary  Division. 

Ordered,  That  the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

i of 

Animals Acts, 
1894 to  1903. 

Sir Edward  Strackey  presented,  pursuant  to 
the directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Order  under  the  Diseases of  Animals  Acts, 
1894  to  1903,  dated  the  28th  April  1909, 
revoking  the  Foreign  Animals  (Amendment) 
Order  of  1908. 

Ordered,  That the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

North Sea 
Fisheries 
Investigation 
Committee. 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Second  Report  (Southern 
Area)  on  Fishery  and  Hydrographical  Investi­
gations  in  the  North  Sea and adjacent  Waters, 
1904-5.  Part  II. 

Inland 
Revenue. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  also presented, pursuant  to  the 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  —Copy 
of  Treasury  Warrant,  dated  1st  May  1909, 
appointing  Mr.  Charles  Henry  Rickman  to  be a 
Special  Commissioner  of Income  Tax. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie  upon the 

a Copy  of  the  Treasury  Minute  thereon,  dated 
the 29th day of  April  1909.—(Mr.  Hobhouse.) 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this House  Fleets  (Great 

a  Return  showing  the  Fleets  of  Great  Britain, 
^ a nd 
France,  Russia,  Germany,  Italy,  United  States  countries.) 
of  America,  and  Japan  on  the  31st  day  of 
March  1909, omitting  Battleships and Armoured 
Cruisers  over  twenty  years  old  from  date  of 
launch,  atfd  distinguishing,  both  built  and 
building, Battleships,  Cruisers  of  various grades, 
Torpedo  Vessels,  Torpedo - boat  Destroyers, 
Torpedo  Boats,  and  Submarines:  Return  to 
show  date  of  Launch,  date  of  Completion, 
Displacement,  Horse -  Power,  and  Armaments 
reduced  to  one  common  scale  (in  continuation 
of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  277  of  Session 
1908).—(Sir  Charles  Dilke.) 

A  Motion  being  made, That this House  will, Trade Boards 
to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to  [Expenses.] 
consider  of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of 
moneys provided  by  Parliament, of remuneration 
and  expenses  incurred  under  any  Act  of  the 
present  Session  to  provide  for the  establishment 
of  Trade  Boards  for  certain  Trades —  (Mr. 
Whitley) ; 

Secretary  Sir Edward Grey, by His  Majesty's 
Command,  acquainted 
the  House  that  His 
Majesty, having been  informed  of  the  subject-
matter  of  this  Motion,  recommends  it  to  the 
consideration  of  the  House. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

Table. 

Trade  Reports
(Annual
enes"' 

  Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His Majesty's  Command,—Copies of  Diplomatic 
and Consular Reports, Annual  Series, Nos. 4201, 
4206, and 4208. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Navy  (Hydro-  Mr.  M1 Kenna  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command, —  Copy  of  Report  on  A dmiraity 
grapher's 
Surveys for the year  1908, by the  Hydrographer 
epo 
of ithe Admiralty. 

Naval  Savings  Mr.  M'Kenna also presented, pursuant  to  the 
Banks. 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Account 
iSTo. 130. 	 of  deposits  in  Naval  Savings  Banks,  and  the 
payments  thereof,  and  of  interest  thereon ;  of 
all investments under the  Naval  Savings  Banks 
Act,  1866, and the application  of  the interest  or 
dividends  accruing  in  respect  thereof;  and  of 
the proceeds of  any Sale of  any stocks, annuities, 
or securities, during the financial year  1907-8. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon  the 
Table;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  Naval 
Savings  Banks  be printed. 

London 
Ordered,  That there be laid before this  House 
Elections  Bill,  a  Copy  of  the  Enactments  referred  to  in  the 
  London Elections  Bill.—(Mr. Harcourt.) 

No. 133.

Mr.  Harcourt  accordingly  presented  the  said 

Paper. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That  the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Sweated 
Amendment which, upon the  26th day of  March  industries 
last, was proposed  to  be  made  to  the  Question, 
That  the  Sweated  Industries  Bill  be now  read 
a  second  time,  be  resumed  upon  Monday- the 
7th day of  June next. 

Ordered, That the  Shops Bill  be read a second  Shops Bill, 

time upon  Monday  the 7 th day of June  next. 

Sir  Luke  White reported  from  the Committee  Private  Bills 

on  Group  C  of  Private  Bills;  That,  for  the (GrouP  c> 
convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Monday  next,  at  Twelve  of  the 
clock. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason reported  from  Standing standing 
Committee B, to  whom the  Board of  Trade  Bill  Committee  B. 
was  referred;  That  they  had gone  through  the -fJ^j,. Jjjn 
Bill  and made  an  Amendment  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  No. 131. 

Table;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That the Minutes of  the Proceedings  No. 131. 

of  the  Standing  Committee  be printed. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Bill 178. 

Standing  Committee,  be taken into  consideration 
upon Monday  next;  and be  printed. 

Ordered,  That the  Minutes of Evidence  taken  PoliceFoi-ces 

before  the  Select  Committee  on  Police  Forces  (Weekly 
(Weekly  Rest-Day),  appointed 
Session of  Parliament,  be printed.—(Mr.  Ellis.) 

last Rea'~Daf,)l,
JNo#  132, 

the 

in 

Scilly  Islands  

Mail  Service,  


Ordered,  That there  be laid  before this  House 
a  Copy  of  Contract,  dated  the  27th  day  of 
February 1909, between the Postmaster  General 
and  the  West  Cornwall  Steamship  Company, 
Limited,  for  the  conveyance  of  Mails  between 
Penzance  and the  Scilly  Islands;  together  with 

Mr.  Ellis reported from the  Select  Committee  PoliceForces 

on  Police  Forces  (Weekly  Rest-Day) ;  That  (Weekly 
they had considered the matters to them referred, Eest" 
and directed  him  to  make  a  Report  thereof  to 
the  House. 

 
>. 49.]  9  E  D W.   V I I. 

4 th May. 	

141 

No. 132. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  And  Be printed. 

No. 132. 

Ordered, That the  Minutes of the  Proceedings 

• 

of  the  Select  Committee  be  printed. 

Ways  and  Means,  if  under  consideration  at 
Eleven  of  the  clock  this  night,  be  not  inter­
rupted  under  the  Standing  Order  (Sittings  of 
the  House)—(The Prime Minister)  ; 

I r - W i s  reported from the  Select  C o m m i t t ee 
fweekl  
Holiday)  Bill.  011 Police  Forces  ( Weekly  Rest-Day),  to' whom 
the  Police  (Weekly  Holiday)  Bill  was  com­
mitted ;  That  they  had  agreed  to  report  the 
said Bill to the  House, without  Amendment. 

Ordered, That  the  Report,  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported from  the  Committee of 

Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol­
lowing  Members  from  Standing  Cornmittee  C 
(in  respect  of  the  Trade  Boards  Bill) :-—Mr. 
Burns,  Sir  Edward  Strachey, Mr.  Ainsworth,
Mr.  Howard, Mr.  Cullinan, and  Mr.  Young;
and  had  appointed  in  substitution  (in  respect 
of the said Bill) :  Mr.  Churchill, Mr.  Tennant,
Mr.  Solicitor  General,  Captain  Murray,  Mr. 
Clancy, and  Mr. Mooney. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing  ?  . 
Committee C. 
Trade Boards 
" 
Bill. 
1 

: 

Standing 
Committee  C. 

Trade Boards 
Bill. 

The  House divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,

Tellers for th^Alexander 

Yeas, 

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Acland­

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87. 

So it was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved itself  Ways and 

into the  Committee  Of Ways  and Means. 

' 

Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Tea. 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the, Customs 
duty  now  charged  on  tea  shall  continue  to  be 
charged  until  the  first  day  of  July  nineteen 
hundred  and ten  (that is to  say) :— 

Mr. Fenwick further reported  from  the  Com­
mittee  ;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing 
Committee  C  the  following  Fifteen  Members 
(in  respect  of  the  Trade  Boards  Bill)  :—Mr. 
Robinson,  Mr.  Toulmin,  Mr. Higharn,  Mr.  StuartWhereupon  Motion made, and  Question, That 
Samuel,  Sir  Frederick Caipley,  Sir Henry  Cotton,the Chairman do report Progress,  and ask leave 
Mr.  George  GoOch,  Mr. Arkwright,  Mr.  Bridge-to  sit  again—(Mr.  Chaplin),—put, and  agreed 
man, Sir  William Bull,  Mr.  Harry Marks,  Mr. 
Nannetti,  Mr.  Devlin,  Mr.  Arthur Henderson, 
and  Sir  Thomas  Whittaher. 

—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

-  Five  pence. 

the lb. 

to. 

Tea 

- 

-

-

-

-

Ordered, That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
Message  had  been  brought  from the Lords  by 
one of their  Clerks,  as followeth: 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Hastings 

Harbour Bill,  without any  Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled An 
Act  to  confer  further  powers  on the holders  of 
Preferred and Deferred (North  Eastern Railway 
Consols)  Stock  of  the  Stock  Conversion  and 
Investment  Trust,  Limited;  to  empower  the 
North  Eastern  Railway  Company  to  become 
trustees  under  the  trust  deed  regulating  the 
issue  Of  such stocks, and for other purposes;  to 
which the  Lords desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

The  Stock  Conversion  and  Investment  Trust 

(North  Eastern Railway  Consols)  Bill  [Lords']
was read the first time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of Petitions for  Private  Bills.  ' 

Ordered, That the Death Certificates (Charges) 
Bill  be read a second time upon Thursday  next. 

Message from 
the Lords. 

Hastings 
Harbour  Bill. 

Stock 
Conversion 
and Invest­
ment  Trust 
(North 
Eastern 
Railway 
Consols)  Bill 
[Lords.'] 

Stock 
Conversion 
and  Invest­
ment Trust 
(North 
Eastern 
Railway 
Consols) Bill 
[Lords.]
Death 
Certificates 
(Charges) Bill. 

Road Traffic 
Bill. 

Ordered.  That  the  Road  Traffic  Bill  be reaid 

a  second time upon Thursday  next. 

' 

Sea Fisheries 
Regulation 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  Tl^vX  the  Sea Fisheries  Regulation 
(Scotland)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Friday  next. 

Criminal 
Appeal Bill. 

Sir David  Brynmor  Jones, supported  by  Mr. 
Cave,  Mr.  Mooney,  Mr.  Abel  Thomas,  Mr. 
Bill  179.  	 Stewart-Smith,  Mr.  Stanger, and  Mr.  Fenwick,
presented a Bill  to  amend the  Criminal  Appeal 
Act,  1907 :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be 
read  a second time upon Friday  the 14th  day  of 
May ;  agd to |>e printed. 
tins 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  acquainted the 
House  that  the  Committee had made  Progress 
in  the  matter  to  them  referred;  and  that  he 
was directed  to  move, That  the  Committee rnay 
have leave to sit  again. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve itself into the  said  Committee. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving  Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the 29th day of April  last; 

Report. 

r i  n 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Buildings  and 

Second  Reading of  the Buildings  and Engineer- fj^g^g&f 
in»  Works  Bill; 

Ordered,  'That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming  Cinemato­
the adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed  graph Bill, 
upon  the 21st day  of  April last, That  the  Cine­
matograph Bill  be  now read  a second .time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland Inland 
„ 
Revenue  Bill; 

ttevenue 

tv'ti'  •" " 

; '  ' 

•  . 

* 

Bin. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

to-morrow. 
o 

. 

... 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London 

Second  Reading  of the  L Q n d o  n  Elections  Bill;  Elections  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Marine 
Second Reading  of  the Marine  Insurance (Gam-insurance 
b l i ng  P o l i c i e s) 

"  \ 

•* 

S o l l f l q. 

Business of 
the House 
(Ways and 
Means.) 

A  Motion  was made,  and  the  Question being  Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  tima 

put1, That  the Proceedings  of  the Committee of  to-morrow. 

Y O L.   1 6 4/ 

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5 0 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Election  of 
Aldermen  in  Second  Reading  of  the  Election  of  Aldermen 
Borough^Bill.  in  Municipal  Boroughs  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

House  Letting 
ami  Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting  and 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

Supply. 

Mercantile

a c c o m p a n i es
(Municipal
Franchise) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply  ; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  Second  Reading  of  the  Mercantile  Corporations 
and Companies  (Municipal Franchise)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Hours of 
Labour 
  Second  Reading of  the  Hours of  Labour  (Sur­
,
(Surfacemon)
  iacemen)  Bill  ; 
Bin 
J

\  u -n 

c 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Under  Sheriffs  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking 
Boroughs) 
* n to  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs  (County 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Friday  the  18th  day  of  June 
next. 

Law  Agents 
(Scotland) 
Act 
Amendment 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Law  Agents  (Scotland) 
Act  Amendment  Bill ; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Open  Spaces 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the  Open  Spaces (Scotland) 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Sale  of 
Margarine 
Bill-

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Sale  of  Margarine  Bill; 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to morrow. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit  till  two  minutes  after  Eleven  of  the 
clock, adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

[No.  50.] 

Wednesday, 5th May  1909. 
The  House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Anglo-
Argentine 
Tramways 
Company  Bill 
[Lords.] 

THE  House  proceeded  to  take  into  con­

sideration  the  Anglo-Argentine  Tramways 
[Lords],  as  amended  in  the 

Company  Bill 
Committee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the  third  time. 

The  House proceeded  to  take  into considera-  Great  Central 

tion  the  Great  Central  Railway 
Powers)  Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee. 

(Various 

Powers)  Bill, 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read the third  time. 

read a second  time, and committed. 

The  Sligo  and  Bundoran  Railway  Bill  wassiigoand 
Bundoran 
Railway  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the North  and 
Second Reading  of the  North and South  Shields South  Shields 
Electric  Railway  Bill; 
S a  y  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Wednesday  next. 

t  e  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Westminster 
°ouncil 
J  (Superannua-
tion, &c.)  Bill 

Second  Reading  of  the  Westminster 
Council  (Superannuation,  8tc.) Bill  [Lords]  ; 

-  •  •  Citv C i ly

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time  lLords-i 

upon Monday  next. 

Mr.  Masterman presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  Local 

certain  Provisional Orders  of  the Local  Govern-  Government 
ment  Board  relating  to  Ilkeston  and Ynyscyn- oJdera (Gas) 
haiarn:  And  the same was read  the first time. 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  Bill 180. 

Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be printed. 

Several Public Petitions  were  presented, and  Publio 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon  the Table. 

Vide  Second 

Report. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  pursuant  to  the Trinidad  and 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy	  of  Tobago. 
Rules  and  Regulations  for  the  government  of 
His  Majesty's  Prisons  in Trinidad  and  Tobago. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Combinations 

Command,—Copy of Report  of the Departmental j°etlleT 
Committee  appointed  to 
binations  in  the  Meat  Trade,  together  with  Committee.) 
Appendices. 

inquire  into  Com-  (Departmental 

,

Ordered,  That the said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  —  Return  to  an Sciliy  islands 
Order,  dated  the  4th  day of  this  instant May, Mal1  Service, 
for a Return relative  to  the  Scilly  Islands  Mail  No. 136. 
Service. 

Ordered, That  the  said Return  do lie  upon the 

Table;  and  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Local  Authorities  (Legal Local 
Expenses)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon (Legal 
Tuesday  next, 

Authorities 

Expenses) 
Bill. 

Mr. Fenwich  reported  from  the Committee  of  	Selection 
(Standing 
Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol-
Committees.) 
lowing  Member from Standing  Committee A  :— Standing 
Mr.  Vivian;  and  had  appointed  in  substitution Committee  A. 
(in  respect  of  the Local  Education  Authorities Local 
(Medical  Treatment)  Bill)  :  Mr.  John  Wilson 
(Durham). 	

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Education 
Authorities 
(Medical 
Treatment) 
Bill. 

Table. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by the Lords, 
one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Kirkwall  Kirkwall 
Water  Provisional  Order  Bill,  without  any  ^ |  i o n a  l 
Amendment. 
Order  Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed to  the  Amendments  Indian 

made  by  this  House  to the Indian  Councils  Bill  Councils  Bill 
[Lords], with Amendments ;  to  which  the  Lords 
desire the concurrence of  this House,	 

or

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No.  50.]

  9  EDW.  V I I. 

5th May. 


Great Western
Railway
Vessels) Bill
[Lords.]

  The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled An 
Act  to  authorise  the  Great  Western  Railway 
  Company  to  own  and  use  vessels  for  the 
conveyance  of  traffic  between  the  ports  of 
Weymouth,  Plymouth, and  Fishguard, the ports 
in  the  Channel  Islands,  and  certain  French 
ports,  and  to  subscribe  to  the  funds  of  steam­
ship  companies,  and  for  Other  purposes;  to 
which the Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. v 

Great Western
Railway

  The  Great Western  Railway  (Steam  Vessels) 
Bill  [Lords]  was read the first time, 

Vessels) Bill
[Lords.]

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  Of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Indian
Councils  Bill
[Lords.]

Bill 183. 

Ordered,  That  the Amendments  made  by the 
L o r (j s  to  the  Amendments made  by this  House 
to  the  Indian  Councils  Bill  [Lords]  be taken 
into  consideration  upon  Monday  next;  and  be 
printed.  "'••• 

•  >' " 

-' 

Clerks of  the

Peace and

Ordered,  That  the  Clerks  of  the  Peace  and 
County  Councils  Bill  be  read  a,  second  time 

Councils Bill,

  to-morrow. 

Justices of  the
Peace  Bill.

Cruelty to
Animals  Bill.

Ordered, That  the Justices  of  the  Peace  Bill 

be read a second time to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the Cruelty  to  Animals  Bill  be 

r e a ( j  a  second time  to-morrow. 

  Mr.  Levy  Lever,  supported  by  Colonel  Wil­
Hams,  Mr. Stanley Wilson,  Sir  Robert Price,  Mr. 
Nzissey, Mr.  Wiles, Mr.  Godfrey  Baring,  and 
Mr.  Hay  Morgan,  presented  a  Bill  to  make 
further provision for  Bank  Holidays in  England 
and Ireland, and  to amend the  Holidays  Exten­
sion Act,  1875:  And  the  same  was  ordered  to 
be read  a  second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and 
to be  printed. 

Bank  Holidays
Bill.

Bill 181.

Weekly  Rest-
Day  Bill.

Bill  182.

And  it being  after a quarter-past  Eight of  the  


clock,  further  proceeding  was  postponed  with­
out  Question  put, 
in  pursuance  of  Standing 
Order  No. 4. 


A  Motion  was  made, and the  Question being  Local 
proposed,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House,  Administra­
there  is  urgent  need  for  the  reform  of  local Taxation 
government in London  so as to secure,  by means  (London.) 
of  the  unification  of  authorities,  an  improved, 
simplified, and more economical  system of  public 
administration  and  a  complete  equalisation  of 
the  burden  of  the  rates-—(Mr.  Carr-Gomm):—
And  a Debate arising thereupon; 

j

Mr.  Seaverns  rose  in his  place  and claimed  to  Closure 

move,  That the  Question  be now put;  but  Mr. claimed,  btut  ,, 
Speaker  withheld  his  assent, and  declined  then ^iti^olds  his' 
to put that Question:—Then  the House  resumed assent.  1 
the  Debate. 

And  it being  Eleven of the clock,  the  Debate 

stood  adjourned. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours of 

Second Reading of the  Hours of  Labour  (Bake-  Labour 
houses)  Bill; 

(Bakehouses) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cruelty  to 

Second  Reading1  of  the  Cruelty  to  Animals  Animals 
(No.  3)  Bill;  * 

(No.  3)  Bill. 

" 

' 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday  the  17th day  of  this instant  May. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for-  the  Asylum 

Second  Reading  of  the Asylum  Officers' Super-  Office^'Super­

.. 

, r, 

j? 

Tj-n 

J 

annuation (Scotland)  Bill; 

r 

annuation 
(Scotland) 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second  time Bl11­

to-morrow. 

  Mr.  Price,  supported  by  Mr.  Steadman,  Mr. 
Bertram Straus, Sir Alfred  Thomas,  Mr.  Corrie 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning 
Grant, Mr. Remnant, Mr. Shackleton, Mr. Ferens,Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial  industrial 
and Mr.  Gulland, presented  a  Bill  to  secure  a 
Tools Bii1(: 
Weekly  Rest-Day  :  And  the  same  was ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time upon  Tuesday  next; 
and to be printed. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Tools  Bill;

°

8

Ways and 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into the  Committee of  Ways and  Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Tea. 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  Customs 
duty  now  charged  on  tea  shall  continue  to  be 
charged  until  the  first  day  of  July  nineteen 
hundred and ten (that is to say):— 

Tea 

-

-

-

-  the lb. 

-  Five pence 

—(Mr. Chancellor  of  the Exchequer)  :—Debate 
arising; 

Mr. Chancellor  of  the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place and claimed to move, That the Question  be 
now put. 

Question put

Question  put, That the  Question be now put. 

m c i o s w e  0
of  Debate.)

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 
\ Master of Elibank: 
fSir Alexander Acland-

Yeas, 

, 

„, 
Tellers for the J 
•Woes, 

H o  < 

[Viscount  Valentia  :  


I.308 

J 
) 
• 201. 

Question put  accordingly.  

The  Committee  divided.  

)
Tellers for the f Mr, Joseph Pease, 
\Master  of  Elibank: 
J 
fSir  Alexander Acland- 1 

Yeas, 

j.  ^ 

™ ,, 
Tellers for the I  H o o d>  

[Viscount  Valentia : 

U 7 9 . 

J 

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VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Mercantile 
Second Reading  of  the  Mercantile  Corporations'Corporations 
(Municipal11168 
and  Companies  (Municipal  Franchise)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time franchise) 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours of 

Second  Reading  of  the Hours of  Labour  (Sur­
j, 
facemen) Bill  ; 

\  T»-it 

(surfacemen) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public  Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act  A<* (1875) 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

fwaTer"1611' 
Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time Ki^'ht8) Bm­

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Sale of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Sale of  Margarine Bill ;  Margarine 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Postponed proceeding  resumed. 
Resolution to  be reported. 

Ways and 
Means. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy Chairman reported, That  the Committee 
had come  to a Resolution. 
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5fh—6th

May. 

.  51. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  also  acquainted  the 
House  that  he was directed  to move,  That the 
Committee  may  have leave to  sit again. 

Resolved",  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
from  one,  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the following 
Bill,  referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, the 
Standing  Orders  which  are  applicable  thereto 
have been  complied  with,  viz.:— 

Provisional 
Order Bills 
(Standing 
Orders  «. 
applicable 
thereto 
complied 
with.) 

again  resolve  itself into  thie said  Committee, 

Ways and 
Means 
[29th  April] 
Report. 

The  Order of the day being readj for receiving 
the  Report  frbm  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means' 6f the 29th day of  April  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

Builtlijags.and 
Eoginegrisg 
WottM BiU. 

'the  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the Buildings' and; Engineer-
f r it  Wotks  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-rfiofcfow; 

Trade  Boards 
[Expenses.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  Oil Trade  Boards  [Expenses]  ; 

'Mesdlvecl,  That  this  fertise  v^illj  lo-mort-owv 

resolve itself  into the  said  Committee. 

Cinemato­
graph  BiU.  


The  Order of the day being  read, for resuming 
the adjourned, I>ebate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  SUst cEay of  April  last, That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be now  read  a second  time; 

, Ordered, That the Debate  be further  adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  ana  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the  Marine Insurance (Gam 
bling  Policies)  Bill; 

Ordered^ That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into  the said  Committee. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit  till  five  minutes  after  Eleven  of  the 
clock,  adjourned till  to-morrow. 

[No.  51.] 

. 

Thursday, 6th May  1909. 

The  House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before  Three  of the  clock. 

P f f i A ^E  R S. 

"ft;  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,­
I  from one of  the Examiners of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the case  of  the  following 
Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords,  and  referred  on 
the First  Reading  thereof, the  Standing  Orders 
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are 
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
viz. :­

London  and  South  Western  Railway  Bill 

[Lords]. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time. 

Private  Bills 
[Lords] 

Orders not 
previously 
inquired into 
complied 
with.) 

Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 

(No.  1) Bill. 

/ 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report Provisit^l 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  6f  Petitions 
Private  Bill8, That  in  the case of  the following brdera 
Dg 
Bill, referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, no applicable.) 
Standing  Orders  are  applicable,  viz. :— 

Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 

(No. 2)  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  6f  the  day  being  read, for  taking Gas Light and 

into  consideration  the  Gas  Light  and  Coke  Coke  Company 
Company  Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee; 

m" 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Thursday  next,  at  a  quarter 
of  ah hour after  Eight  Of the  clock. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Jones's 

Second  Reading  of  Jones's  Almshouse  and Gramma* a"d 
Grammar  School Foundation  Bill  ; 

Schow^1 

Ordered,  That the said  Order  be discharged.  Foundation 
Ordered, That the  Bill be  withdrawn. 

,  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London 
Second  Reading of  the  London  County  Council County 
(Money)  Bill ; 

(Money)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 
upon  Thursday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of  the  clock. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public 

read;  and  ordered  to  lie upon  the  Table. 

Yide'second 
Report. 

Mr.  M'Kenna presented,—Return  to an Order,  Fleets (Great 
dated  the  4th  day  of  this  instant  May,  for  Britain and 
Return  relative  to  Fleets  (Great  Britain  and counWes.) 
j 37 
Foreign  Countries). 

Ordered, That the said Return do lie upon  the 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,Return  Corporal 
to  an  Address  to  His  Majesty,  dated  the  26th Punishment, 
day  of  April  last,  for  a  Return  relative  to  No. 138. 
Corporal  Punishment. 

Ordered,  That  the said Return  do lie upon  the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Loan  Fund 
. 

Command, —  Copy  of  Seventy  -  first  Annual 
Report  of  the  Loan  Fund  Board  of  Ireland, 
1908. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His.  Majesty's  Board of  —  ; 

Command, —  Copy  of  Report  by  the  Labour 
Department  of  the  Bratrd ;of  Trade  on  Trade  Department.) 
Unions  in  1905-7,  with  comparative  Statistics 
for 1898—1907. 

Mr.  Churchill  also  presented,  pursuant  to  Railways 
Standing  Order  1586,—Copy -of  Report  by  the  Abandonment. 
Board of Trade respecting the Pontypridd  Water 
Bill, and the objects  thereof. 

M  :  B l .]

9  EDW.  Y I I. 

Qth May. 

Ordered, That  the  Paper  relative  to  Board 
of  Trade  (Labour  Department)  do lie  upon the 
Table ;  and that the Paper  relative  to  Railways 
Abandonment  be  referred  to  the Committee  on 
the Bill. 

Ordered,  That there  be laid before this  House 
a  Return  of  Abstract 'Account  of  the Receipts 
and Payments of the King's and Lord Treasurer's 
Remembrancer  in  Scotland,  in  the  year  ended 
the 31st  day  of  December  1908, in the adminis­
tration of Estates and Treasure  Trove  on behalf 
of  the  Crown : 
And  of  Alphabetical  List of 
Estates  which  fell  to  the  Crown  as  Ultimus 
Hteres  in  Scotland,  administered  by  the  King's 
and  Lord  Treasurer's  Remembrancer,  in  the 
same year.—(Mr.  Hobhouse.) 

Mr.  Charles Nicholson reported from the  Local ments. 

Legislation  Committee  (Section  B)  ;  That  in 
the case of  the  City  of  London  (Street  Traffic) 
Bill  they  had  examined  the  allegations  of  the 
Bill,  and  found the  same  to  be  true;  and  had 
gone  through  the  Bill  and  made  Amendments 
thereunto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Leaseholds 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon 
Monday next, the Leaseholds  (Enfranchisement) 
Bill was read, and discharged. 

145 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  further 
reported  from  the  Committee ;  That  they  had 
examined  the  allegations  contained in  the  Pre­
amble  of  the  Bill,  and  amended  the  same so  as 
to  make it consistent with  the  provisions  of  the 
Bill  as passed  by the  Committee,  and found  the 
same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and  had  gone 
through  the  Bill  and  made Amendments  there­
tinto;  and  had  also  amended  the  Title,  as 
followeth:—A  Bill  to  authorise  the  Midland  [Title 
Great  Western  Railway  of Ireland  Company  to  a m e n d e d - J 
construct a new  railway  and  acquire  additional 
lands, and for other purposes. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported  United 

the  United  Kingdom  Temperance  and  General 
Provident  Institution  Bill [Lords'],  with  Amend- and  General 

Provident 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  gill  \ Lords.]

Table. 

The  Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
from the Committee  on  the  Railway  Rates  and 
Charges  Provisional  Order  (Weston,  Cievedon, 
and  Portishead  Light  Railways)  Bill;  That 
they had considered the Order therein contained ; 
that the said Order  ought  to  be  confirmed ;  and 
that .they  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill, 
without  Amendment, to the  House. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Railway Rates 
and  Charges 
Provisional 
Order 
(Weston, 
Cievedon, and 
Portishead 
Light
Railways)  Bill. 
[Provisional 
Order 
confirmed.] 

Ultimus 
Hseres 
(Scotland) 
(Account  and 
List of| 
Estates.) 

Local 
Legislation 
Committee 
(Section  B.) 
City  of 
London 
(Street 
Traffic) Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time Table  ;  and be printed. 

upon  Monday  the  17th day of  this instant  May. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read the third time 

to-morrow. 

Railway  Bills 
(Group  1.) 

Mr.  Osmond  Williams reported from the  Com­

mittee  on  Group  1  of  Railway  Bills;  That,  Mr. Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee  of 
for  the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol­
lowing  Member from  Standing Committee  C :— 
had  adjourned  till  Wednesday  the  19th  day of 
this instant May,  at half  an hour  after  Eleven  of  Mr.  T.  W. Russell;  and  had appointed  in  sub-
stitution  (in  respect  of  the  Trawling  in  Pro-
the clock. 
hibited Areas (Prevention)  Bill):  Mr. Attorney 
General for Ireland. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  C, 
Trawling  in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
(Prevention) 
Bill. 

New Member
sworn.

Joseph  Pointer,  Esquire,  Member  for  the 
Borough  of  Sheffield  (Attercliffe  Division), was 
sworn. 

Hewry,  Keady,
and  Tynan
Railway  Bill. 

  The  Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
Newry,  Keady,  and  Tynan  Railway  Bill, 

with Amendments. 

Table. 

Ordered, That  the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Dogs 

Question proposed  upon  the  28th  day  of  April  ^Exemption) 
last,  That" the  Dogs  (Exemption)  Bill  be  now  1 
read a second time, be resumed upon Wednesday 
next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Viscount  Dalrymple, supported  by  Sir  Alex-  Biackgame 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Ammanford 
Gas Bill. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 

the Ammanford Gas Bill, with  Amendments. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Midland  Great 
Western 
Railway  of 
Ireland  Bill. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Midland  Great 
Western  Railway  of  Ireland  Bill:  That  with 
respect to  the  Resolution  of  the  House  of  the 
9th  March  the  Committee  found  that  the 
promoters  did  not  propose  to  proceed  with  the 
powers for the proposed tramways,  and that  the 
Clauses  relating  to  the  tramways  had  been 
omitted  from  the  Bill  laid  before  them;  with 
respect  to  the  Resolution  of  the  House  of  the 
25th  March  the  Committee  found  that  the 
promoters  did  not propose  to  proceed  with  the 
powers  for  the  construction  of  Railway  No.  2, 
and had omitted from the  Bill  as laid  before the 
Committee  Clause 66, together with the Clauses 
authorising  the  construction  of  Railway  No.  2, 
to which the said Clause  66 related. 

VOL.  164. ~ 

ander Acland-Hood, Mr.  Beale,  Mr.  Cochrane,  Bill. 
Mr.  Howard,  Sir  Edward  Tennant, and  Mr.  Bill 184. 
Montagu, presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Acts 
relative  to the killing and taking of  Biackgame : 
And  the  same  was  ordered  to be  read a second 
time  upon  Friday  the  14th  day  of  this  instant 
May ;  and to  be printed. 

Mr. Dundas  White, supported  by Mr.  Ramsay  Rights  of 

Macdonald, Mr.  Findlay,  Mr.  Sutherland,  Mr. Way 
Lamont, Mr.  Cleland,  Mr. Barnes, Mr.  Murray (Scotland) 
Macdonald,  Mr.  Gulland,  Mr.  Ponsonby,  Sir  gjy  j^g 
John  Barran,  and  Mr.  Robert  Harcourt,  pre­
sented a Bill  to amend the Law  as  to Rights  of 
Way  in  Scotland:  And  the  same  was  ordered 
to  be read a second  time upon  Tuesday  the  18th 
day  of  this instant May ;  and to  be printed. 

Mr.  Corrie  Grant,  supported  by  Colonel  Small 

Lockwood, Earl  Winterton,  Mr.  Arthur  Hen-  Holdings  Bill. 
derson,  Mr.  Shackleton,  Mr.  Hall,  Mr.  William  Bil1  185­
Johnson, Mr. Charles Corbett,  Sir Robert Hobart, 
Sir  Maurice  Levy,  and  Mr.  Courtenay  Warner,
presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Small  Holdings 
and  Allotments  Act,  1908 :  And  the  same was 

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27th April 

1909. 

[No. 44. 

ordered  to  be  read  a second  time upon  Monday 
next;  and to  be printed. 

Supply 
[6th allotted
Day.J

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself 
  t he  Committee  of  Supply. 

i n t0

r r 

J

(In  the  Committee.) 

Civil  Services and Revenue  Departments 
Estimates,  1909-10. 
Class  II. 

Motion  made, and  Question  proposed,  That a 
sum  not  exceeding  £98,169  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty,  to  complete  the  sum  necessary  to 
defray the charge  which  will  come in course  of 
payment during the year ending  on the 31st day 
of  March  1910  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses 
of  the Board  of  Agriculture  and Fisheries, and 
of  the  Royal  Botanic  Gardens,  Kew, including 
certain  Grants  in Aid:  • 

And  it being a quarter of  an hour after Eight 
of  the  clock,  and  there being  Private  Business 
set down by  direction  of the  Chairman of  Ways 
and Means under  Standing  Order  No.  8, further 
proceeding  was postponed without  Question  put. 

London  and 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
North Western  Second  Reading  of  the  London  and  North 
Hallway  Bill.  W e s t  e r  n  Railway  Bill  ; 

And  a Motion being made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

An  Amendment was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the Question,  by leaving out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day  six  months."  —  (Mr. 
War clle. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word "now  "  stand part  of  the  Question  :—The 
said proposed  Amendment  was, with leave of the 
House, withdrawn. 

And the Main  Question  being  put  ; 
Ordered,  That the Bill  be  now read  a  second 
time :—The  Bill was  accordingly  read  a  second 
time, and committed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Midland 
Railway  Bill  Second  Reading  of  the  Midland  Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 

[.Lords]  ; 

of  March  1910  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses 
of  the Board of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries, and 
of  the Royal  Botanic  Gardens,  Kew,  including 
certain Grants in Aid,  resumed. 
Question  again  proposed: 

And 

it  being  Eleven  of  the  clock,  the 
Chairman  left  the  Chair  to make his  Report  to  

the  House.  


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the  

Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  acquainted  the  

House that  the  Committee  had made  Progress  

in the matter to them referred ;  and that he was 

directed  to move, That  the Committee  may have 

leave to sit again. 


Resolved, That  this  House will, upon  Monday  


next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 


The  Order of the day being read, for receiving  Supply 
the  Report  from the  Committee  of  Supply  of  ^Jp^" 1-' 
the 27th day  of April  last; 

Ordered, That  the Report  be  received  upon  


Thursday  next.  


The  Order of  the  day  being  read,  for taking  Supply 

into  consideration  the  Sixth  of  the Resolutions  [22nd  March] 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day  of March  last,  were (nlferrai 
reported  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the  Resolution.) 
22nd day of  March  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  said Resolution  be  taken  


into further consideration  upon Thursday next. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Check-


Second Reading of  the Checkweighing in various  weighing in 

Industrie's  R i ll   • 
i n d u s t r i es  B i l l, 

various 
Industries  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The Order  of  the day being read, for receiving  Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the 5th day of this instant  May ; 

Report. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Ways and 

Committee of  Ways  and  Means; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

And a Motion  being made,  and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

The  Order  of the day being read, for receiving  Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of  the  29 th day of April  last; 

Report/" 

An  Amendment  was  proposed to be  made to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  " now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  six  months."  —  (Mr. 
Morton.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word " now "  stand part of the  Question :—The 
said proposed Amendment  was, with leave of the 
House,  withdrawn. 

And  the  Main  Question being  put; 
Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time :—The  Bill was  accordingly  read  a  second 
time, and committed. 

Great Western  The  Great  Western  Railway 
Railway 
Powers')^ill 

(General 
Powers)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a 
second time, and committed. 

Supply. 

Postponed  proceeding  on  Question,  That  a 
sum  not  exceeding  £98,169  be granted  to  His 
Majesty,  to  complete  the  sum  necessary  to 
defray the charge which  will come in  course  of 
payment  during the year  ending  on the 31st day 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Buildings  and 

Second  Reading  of the  Buildings  and Engineer- Engineering
ing  Works  Bill ;

WorksBi11­

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trade  Boards  

[Expenses  ]  


Committee  on Trade  Boards  [Expenses] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,  


resolve itself into the  said  Committee.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 

Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Authorities  (^lc|hor^i?s  . 
(Advertising)  Bill; 

Bili^  " 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  


upon Thursday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Workmen s 
Second  Reading  of  the  Workmen's  Compensa-  Compensation 
tion Bill  ; 

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6th—7th May. 

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Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read  a  second time 

upon Friday  the 28th day of this instant  May. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for . the  cruelty to 
Second  Reading  of  the  Cruelty  to  A n i m a ls   Animals  Bill. 
Bill; 

SirR. 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Whittington's  Second Reading of  Sir R.  Whittington's  Charity 
j 
Charity  Bill. 

g j j  j 

b 

& 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. . 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Bridgend 
(Hope  English  Second  Reading of the Bridgend  (Hope  English 
Baptist 
Chapel,  &c.)  Baptist  Chapel, &c.)  Charity  Bill.; 
Charity  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

John 
Marshall's 
Charity  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  Charity 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of-  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Asylum 
Second  Reading of the Asylum  Officers'  Super- Officers' 
annuation (Scotland)  Bill; 

annultion 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be read  a  second  time (S<f i^d) 

TUT  1 

1 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial JLnd?st^1.J1l1i 
Tools  Bill; 
Tools  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Lichfield 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
and  Longdon  Second  Reading  of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon 
Chapels a n d  ^  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust Property  Charity  Bill; 
Charity  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Dewsbury 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Cou^e'ationai ^ e c o n c '  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 
Chapelga  °na  Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill; 
Charities Bill.  Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Wortley 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Chag3gati0nal  S e c o n  d  heading  of the Wortley  Congregational 
Charity  BiU.  Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Irish  National 
Schools 
(Heating  and 
Cleansing) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating  and  Cleansing)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours of 
Second  Reading  of  the Hours  of  Labour  (Sur- ^abo.ur 
\  t»-ii 
tacemen)  Bill; 

(Surfacemen) 
J. 

e 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public  Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  A c  t  Act  (1875) 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read  a  second time  Bights)  Bill, 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sale of 
Second Reading  of  the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill;  Margarine 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

And  then  the  House,  having continued  to  

sit  till  five  minutes  after Eleven  of  the 
clock, adjourned till  to-morrow.  


[No.  52.] 

Friday,  1th May  1909. 
The  House  met at  Twelve of the  clock. 

Cheap Trains 
Bm- 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

P R A T E R S. 

Second  Reading  of the  Cheap Trains Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

AMOTION  being  made,  That  the  York  York  Town 

Town  and Blackwater  Gas (Electric  Light-  and  Black­
(Electric* 

ing, &c.)  Bill  be now  read  the third time; 

Death 
Certificates 
(Charges)  BUI.  ( C h a r g e s)

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Death  Certificates 

 B  m 

.  6 

Ordered, That the Bill be read  a  second time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Road  Traffic 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the Road  Traffic  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Wednesday  next. 

Clerks of  the 
Peace  and 
County 
Councils  Bill.  County  Councils  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the Clerks  of  the Peace  and 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Justices of  the  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Justices  of  the  Peace 
Peace Bill. 
BUI; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

Mr. Herbert Samuel,  by  His  Majesty's  Com-  Lighting,  &c.) 

mand,  acquainted  the  House  that His  Majesty, 
having  been  informed  of  the  purport  of  the 
Bill, gives  His  Consent,  as  far  as His  Majesty's 
interest  is  concerned,  that  the  House  may  do 
therein  as they  shall think fit. 

Then  the  Bill was  read  the  third  time  and 

passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk do  carry  the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Wirral  Railway  (Extension  of  Time)  wirral 
Bill  [Lords] was read the third time and passed, Railway 
with Amendments. 

Th?e™K°u °£ 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill to  [Lords.]

the Lords ; and  acquaint them that  this  House 
hath agreed  to the  same, with Amendments ;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  House proceeded  to  take  into  considera- Aldershot Gas 

tion  the  Aldershot  Gas  and  Water  Bill,  as  ^ W a t e  r 
amended  in the Committee. 

Bill. 

' 

upon Wednesday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the  third  time, 

u  2 



148 

7 th May. 

1909. 

[No. 52. 

Heckmond- 
Liversccige
Gas Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  House  proceeded  to take  into  considera­
  Heckmondwike  and  Liversedge  Gas 

t i on 
Bill  [Lords],  as amended  in the  Committee. 

t l ie

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read the third  time. 

Cork, Baudon,  The  House  proceeded  to take  into  considera­
B a n (lon, and  South  Coast  Railway 
Coast Bailwa
Bill! 

t i on  t be
Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read the third time. 

Sir Luke  White  reported from the  Committee Private  Bills 

on  Group C of  Private  Bills ;  That  the  parties (GrouP °0 
opposing  the  Glamorgan  Water  Board  Bill had 
stated  that  the  evidence  of  Thomas  Trynfrid 
Jones Was essential to their  case;  and it having 
been  proved  that  his  attendance  could  not  be 
procured  without the intervention  of  the  House, 
he  had  been  instructed  to  move  that  the  said 
Thomas  Trynfrid  Jones  do  attend  the  said 
Committee  on  Monday  next,  at  Twelve of  the 
clock. 

The  Railway  Rates  and  Charges  Provisional 
Railway 
Rates and 
Order (Weston,  Cievedon, and Portishead  Light 
Charges 
Provisional  Railways)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read 
Order 
(Weston, 

Cievedon, and  Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to  

Portishead 
Light 
Railways) Bill. 

the Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

the third time and passed. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 
(No.  1)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a 
second time, and committed. 

v

Local 
Government 
Provisional 
Orders (No. 1) 
Bill. 

Local 
Government  
Provisional
.  = 
Orders  (No. 2) second time, and committed. 
Bill. 
Public 
V i  S  Second
Report. 
Army 
(Military 
Works.) 

r e a < ^

' 

Several  Public  Petitions were  presented, and 
ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

' 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  approximate 
Estimate  of  Expenditure, for  the  year  1909-10, 
under  the  Military  Works  Acts  of  1897,  1899, 
1901, and 1903. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders  

/ N o   2 )  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  

. .. 

,  ' . 

, 

' 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  —  Return  to  an 
Ultimus 
Order,  dated  the  6th  day of  this  instant  May, 
Hseres 
(Accountlnd  f°1-  Returns  relative  to  Ultimus  Hares  (Scot-
List of 
land)  (Account and  List  of  Estates). 
Estates.)^ 

Ordered,  That the said Return  do lie upon the 

'  Table ;  and be  printed. 

Water Bill 

Mr.  Rose  reported  from  the  Committee  on 
the  Llanelly  Water  Bill;  That  with  respect to 
the  Instruction  of  the  House  of  19th  March 
evidence  was  laid  before  the  Committee  that 
the  provisions  of  the  Bill  were  adequate  for 
the  supply  of  water  at  reasonable  rates  to the 
agricultural community within the area of supply, 
and  to  any person  or  persons  from  whom  any 
existing  or  natural  supply  is  or  may be  with­
drawn  owing  to  the  works  or  undertaking 
authorised by the  Act. 

Mr.  Rose  further  reported  from  the  Com­
mittee ;  That they had examined  the allegations 
contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and 
amended the same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent 
with  the  provisions of  the Bill  as passed  by  the 
Committee,  and  found  the  same,  as  amended, 
to  be  true  ;  and  had gone  through  the Bill and 
made Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Rose  reported  from  the  Committee  on 
Private  Bills 
(Group  B.)  Group  B  of  Private  Bills ;  That  Sir Berkeley
Sheffield, one  of  the  Members  of  the  said 
Committee,  was  not  present during the Sitting 
of the Committee  on Thursday. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That  Thomas  Trynfrid  Jones  do  

attend  the  Committee  on  Group  C  of  Private  

Bills on Monday next,  at  Twelve  of the  clock.  


Ordered,  That  the  Rule  Committee  Bill  be  Rule 

read a second time upon  Monday  next. 

Committee 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Coal  Mines 

Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines  (Check- (Check­
weighers) Bill; 

weighers)  Bill. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second time ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made to 
the  Question,  by leaving  out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
word's  " upon  this  day  six  months."  •— (Mr. 
Carlile.) 

And  the Question  being  put,  That  the  word 

"now  "  stand  part of the  Question  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the f Mr. Robert Pearce, 

Yeas, 

I Mr. John Williams  : 

|  ,
f 

Tellers for the [Sir  Frederick Banbury,  )  ^ 
(Captain  Craig: 

Noes, 

J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the  Main  Question  being  put; 
Ordered,  That,  the  Bill  be  now read a second 
time-: —The  Bill  was accordingly  read  a second 
time, and committed  to  a Standing  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Bishopric  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield  Sheffield Bill. 
Bill; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
Ibeing  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second, time  ; 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
"  That"  to the end  of  the  Question, and  adding 
the words  "having  regard  to  the  extravagant 
and  inequitable  endowments  now  attaching  to 
the Archbishoprics and Bishopries  of  the Church 
of  England, this House  declines to  assent to the 
creation of fresh Bishoprics except  their creation 
be accompanied  or  preceded  by  a scheme  for  a 
large  reduction  of  the  incomes  and  properties 
now  belonging  to  the  various  sees "  —  (Sir 
George Kekewich),—instead  thereof. 

And  the Question  being  put, That the words 

proposed to be left out  stand  part of  the  Ques­
tion ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right  5 
The  Noes  to'the  Left.. 
Tellers for the/Sir  William  Holland,  \  „ „ 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Samuel Roberts'.  J 
Tellers for the! Sir  George Kekewich,  \ 
J 

I Mr. Radford: 

Noes, 

ftQ


Municipal 
Elections  Bill,  be  read a second  time upon Tuesday  next. 

Ordered, That  the  Municipal  Elections  Bill 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

And  the  Main  Question being  put;  


 
 
 
 
 




No. 52.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

1th—10 th May. 

149 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a second 
time  :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  a  second 
time, and committed  to a Standing  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning  

Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial  Industrial  

r o o l s B m -

Tools  Bill;  

Local 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Government  Second Reading of  the Local Government  Quali-
Qualification 

(England and  fication (England  and  Wales)  Bill;  

Wales) Bill. 


And  a Motion  being  made,  and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second time  :—And a Debate arising  thereupon; 

Closure 
" Dr.  Shipman  rose  in  his  place and  claimed  to 
claimed, but 
Mr. Speaker  move,  That  the  Question  be  now  put;  but 
withholds his  Mr.  Speaker  withheld  his  assent,  and  declined 
assent. 
then  to  put  that  Question:—Then  the  House 
resumed  the  Debate. 

And  it  being  Five  of  the  clock, the  Debate 

stood  adjourned. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  upon 

Monday  next. 

Access to 
Mountains 
{Scotland) 
BUI. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Access  to  Mountains 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Stolen 
Precious 
Metals Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Stolen  Precious  Metals 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  the  7th day of  June  next. 

Railways 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
<Eight  Hours)  Second Reading  of  the Railways  (Eight  Hours) 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Kre  Inquests 
B m- 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of  the  Fire  Inquests  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  the 28th day  of  this instant  May. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Medical Acts 
Amendment  Second  Reading  of  the  Medical  Acts  Amend­
BU1- 

ment  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

Handloom 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Weaving  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Handloom  Weaving 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Registration  of  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Clubs 
Second  Reading  of  the  Registration  of  Clubs 
(Ireland)  Bill.  ( I r e l a n d)  B i l l

. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Registration  of  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Registration  of  Nurses 
Nurses 
(Scotland)  Bill; 
(Scotland) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trade Boards 

Committee  on Trade  Boards  [Expenses]; 

[Expenses.] 

Resolved, That this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

Mr.  Stuart  Samuel  reported  from  the  Com-  Railway  Bills 

mittee  on  Group  2  of  Railway  Bills ;  That,  for  ( G r o u P   2 0 
the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Tuesday  next,  at  Twelve  of  the 
clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant 
to  Standing  Order  No.  3,  it  being  then  

two  minutes  after  Five  of  the  clock,  till  

Monday  next.  


[No.  53.] 

Monday,  1 Oth  May  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an hour 

before  Three of the  clock.  


P R A T E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private  Bills 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  [Lords]

for  Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the  orders'not 
following  Bills,  originating  in  the  Lords,  and  previously 
referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof,  the  inquired into 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into, 
and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have  been 
complied  with,  viz. : — 

Great  Western  Railway  (Steam  Vessels) 

Bill  [Lords']. 

Stock  Conversion  and  Investment  Trust 
(North  Eastern  Railway  Consols)  Bill 
[Lords]. 


Ordered, That  the Bills be read  a second  time.  


Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private Bills 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for  (Standing 
Private  Bills, That  in  the case  of  the  following  p ^ ™  ^ 
Bill,  referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, inquired into 
the  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  complied 
into, and which  are applicable thereto, have  been  witll0 
complied  with, viz. :— 

North  East  London  Railway  Bill.  


Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time.  


Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Provisional 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for  fiff91,?llls 
Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case of  the  following orders™8 
Bill, referred  on  the First  Reading  thereof,  the applicable 
Standing  Orders  which  are  applicable  thereto  there<;?  . 
complied 
.  
,. 
, 
1 1 
have  been complied  with, viz. : — 
with.) 
Gas  Provisional  Orders  Bill. 

.,, 

° 

, 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

to-morrow. 

Sea Fisheries 
Regulation 
(Scotland) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Sea  Fisheries  Regula­
tion  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Anglo-Argentine  Tramways  Company  Anglo-
Bill  [Lords]  was read the  third time  and passed,  Argentine 
with Amendments. 

Co^Iny  Bill 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to [•&>«*».] 

the Lords  ;  and acquaint them  that  this  House 
hath agreed  to the  same, with  Amendments  ;  to 
u  3 





Donington 
Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Dudley
Corporation
Bill  [Lords.]

Frimley  and
Farnborough
District
Water  Bill '
[Lords.] 

150 

18th—19th 

May. 

1909. 

[No. 60. 

which this  House  doth desire  the concurrence  ofi 
their  Lordships. 

A  Motion  being  made,  That  the  Great 
Central  Railway  (Various  Powers)  Bill be now 

  read the  third  time ; 

Great  Central
f v aS
Powers) Bill,

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Appendix  to the 
Report  of  the  Royal  Commission  on  the  Poor 
Laws  and  Relief  of  Distress.  Vol.  X V I ., 
Report  by  Mr.  A. D.  Steel-Maitland  and  Miss 
R. E.  Squire  on  the  relation  of  Industrial  and 
Sanitary  Conditions  to  Pauperism. 

Poor  Laws 
and  Relief  of 
Distress 
(Royal 
Commission.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,  acquainted  the  House  that  His 
Majesty,  having  been  informed  of  the  purport 
of  the  Bill,  gives  His  Consent,  as  far  as  His 
Majesty's  interest  is concerned,  that  the  House 
may  do therein  as they  shall think fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and 

Copy  of Report  to  the  Secretary  of  State for 
the  Home  Department  on  the  circumstances 
attending  an  Accident  which  occurred  on  1st 
February  1909,  in  connection  with the  removal 
of  a  Wreck  sunk  in  the  fairway  between  the 
Cockle  Lightship and the mainland near  Caistor­
on-Sea. 

Explosions 
(Explosion 
during 
Removal  of 
Wreck  near 
Caistor-on-
Sea.) 

passed. 

Ordered,  That the  said Papers  do lie  upon the 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

Table. 

the Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

Bungay  Water
Bill  [Lords.]

  The Bungay  Water  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  a 
second time, and  committed. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Trade  Reports 

His  Majesty's  Command,— Copies of  Diplomatic 
and  Consular  Reports, Annual  Series, Nos. 4209 
and 4210. 

Copy  of  Accession  of  Mexico  to  the  Declara-  Treaty  Series 

Ordered,  That  the  Donington  Water  Bill 

[Lords]  be read  a second time  to-morrow. 

tion  respecting  Maritime  Law,  signed  at  Paris, 
16th  April  1856.  Signed  13th February  1909. 

u>1909-) 

The  Dudley  Corporation  Bill  [Lords]  was 

read  a second  time, and committed. 

' 

of  Persia, December  1906 to  November  1908. 

Ordered, That the said Papers do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Copy of  Correspondence respecting the Affairs  Persia 

(No.  1,  1909.) 

The  Frimley and Farnborough  District Water 

  gjjj  r£ or^sl  w ag  r e a ( j  a  second  time, and  com­

' 

L, 

J 

  mitted. 

Grantham 
Water  Bill 
[ Lords. ] 

Westminster
(Superannua­
tion, &c.) Bill
[Lords.]

The  Grantham  Water  Bill  [Lords]  was read 

a  second  time, and  committed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Westminster  City 

  Second  Reading  of 
  Council  (Superannuation,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Thursday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of  the  clock. 

Local 
Government 

Mr.  Masterman  presented  a  Bill  to  confirm 
certain  Provisional  Orders  of the  Local  Govern-
Orders (No. 3)  ment  Board  relating  to  Cardiff,  Fulwood,  and 
Newport  (Monmouth):  And  the  same  was  read 
Bill. 
the first time. 

Bill  187. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills ;  and 
be  printed. 

Mr.  Masterman  presented  a  Bill  to  confirm 

Local 
Government 
oSTers10(No. 4) m e n t  . B o a r  d 
Bill. 

certain  Provisional  Orders of  the  Local  Govern­
relating  to  Bexhill,  Liversedge, 
Warrington,  Widnes,  and  Worcester  :  And  the 

Bill 188.  same was read the first time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be  printed. 

Hull and 
Barnsley 
Ba:lway  m  L 

A  Petition  of  the  Hull  and Barnsley  Railway 
Company, praying  that  provision  maybe  made 
in the  Hull  and  Barnsley  Railway  Bill  that the 
powers  to  construct  new  railways  shall  be  con­
ferred  on  the  Company,  and  that  the  Great 
Central  Railway  Company  shall  acquire  a  half-
share  in  the  new  railways,  and  also in  a small 
portion  of authorised  railway, was presented, and 
read;  and referred to the  Examiners  of' Petitions 
for  Private  Bills. 

Public 
Vide  Second

Keport. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were.presented, and 

r e a < ^

'  anc*  ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

Mr.  MiKenna  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Cape of 

Command,-Copy  of  Report  of  His  Majesty's 
Astronomer  at  the  Cape  of  Good  Hope  Obser­
vatory  to  the  Secretary  of  the  Admiralty,  for 
the year  1908. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Burns  presented, pursuant  to  the  direc-  Local 

tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  the 
Annual  Local  Taxation  Returns  for  1906-7.  (England  and 
Part  III. 

Wales.) 

.  • 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

l^O. 

Table  ;  and  be printed. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Board of 
Command,—Copy  of  Regulations  for  the  Pre-  Education, 
liminary  Education  of  Elementary  School 
Teachers:— 

(1)  Pupil  Teacher  Regulations ; 
(2)  Bursary  Regulations; 
(3)  Student  Teacher  Regulations ; 

in  force  from  1st  August  1909  in  Wales  and 
Monmouthshire. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Buchanan  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  East  India 
Command, —  Copy  of  Papers  relative  to  the  (Legislative 
Representation  of  Muhammadans  on  Legislative 
Councils  in  India. 

oimcils-) 

Mr.  Buchanan  also  presented,  pursuant  to  East  India 
the directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,-— ^counts) 
c " m , ,  , 
Copy of  Home  Accounts  of  the  Government  of  
'
India. 
N o  
  U  L 

Copy  of  Estimate  of  Revenue  and  Expendi-  East  India 
ture  of  the  Government  of  India  for  1908-9,  (Estimate.) 
No. 142. 
compared with the results of  1907-8. 

Copy  of  alterations  in  Regulation  I X  .  of  East  India 

Examinations for admission to  the  Civil  Service  £Glvi.' 
of  India. 

Service.) 

Copy  of  Finance  and  Revenue  Accounts  of  East  India 

the  Government  of  India for  1907-8. 

(Finance  and 
Revenue 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon  the  Accounts.) 

Table;  and  that  the  Papers  relative  to  East 

 
 
 
 
 
 
No. 54.]  9  EDW.  V I I.  	

11th—12th 

May. 

151 

India  (Home  Accounts)  and  East India  (Esti­
mate)  be printed. 

Dogs 
Regulation 
(Ireland)  Act, 
1865. 

N o.  143. 

Mr. Birrell  presented,  pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions of  several Acts  of Parliament,—Account of 
the Receipts and  Expenditure  under  the  Dogs 
Regulation  (Ireland)  Act,  1865,  for  the  year 
ending 31st December  1908. 

Fines, &c. 
(Ireland.) 

No. 144. 

An  Abstract  of  the  Accounts  of  all  Fines 
and other  penal  sums  accounted  for  under  the 
Fines  Act 
(Ireland),  1851,  and  the  Petty 
Sessions  Clerk  (Ireland) Act,  1858, for the year 
ending 31st  December  1907. 

Ordered,  That  the said Papers do lie upon  the 

Table;  and  be printed. 

Lunacy. 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  was  laid  upon 
the Table  by the  Clerk  of  the  House :—Copy  of 
Report made  to the Lord  Chancellor  under  the 
Lunacy  Act,  1890, by the  Visitors  of  Lunatics, 
of  the  number  of  visits  made,  the  number  of 
patients seen, and the number of  miles  travelled 
by  the  said  Visitors,  between  the  1st  day  of 
October  1908 and the 31st day  of  March  1909. 

New  Member 
sworn. 

Philip Staveley  Foster,  Esquire,  Member  for 
the  County  of  Warwick  (South  Western  or 
Stratford-on-Avon Division), was sworn. 

Railway  Bills 
(Group  3.) 

The  Chairman of  Ways  and  Means informed 
the  House  that  the  Committee  on Group 3  of 
Railway  Bills  not  being  appointed  to  meet 
till  Thursday  next,  the  parties  promoting  the 
London  County  Council  (Tramways  and  Im­
provements)  Bill,  which  was  set  down  for 
consideration  on  the  first  day  of  meeting  of 
the  Committee,  had  appeared  before  him  and 
proved  that  the  evidence of  Charles  Coleman, 
Accountant, of  129, Battersea  Bridge  Road, was 
essential  to  their case, and  that  his  attendance 
could  not  be  procured  without the  intervention 
of  the  House. 

Ordered,  That  Charles  Coleman  do attend the 
Committee  on  Group  3  of  Railway  Bills  on 
Thursday next, at half an hour  after  Eleven  of 
the  clock. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Rights)  Bill. 

Business of 
the  House 
(Ways  and 
Means.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Public  Health  Act  (1875) 
Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill  be  read  a 
second  time to-morrow. 

A  Motion  was  made, and the  Question  being 
put, That the Proceedings  of  the  Committee  of 
Ways  and  Means,  if  under  consideration  at 
Eleven  of the clock this night, be not interrupted 
under  the  Standing  Order  (Sittings  of  the 
House)—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer); 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(.Master of Elibank  ; 

}213. 

Tellers for  thJ^Jlef^er 

ixoes, 

[Viscount  Valentia: 

Acland- 1' 
I 

80. 

So it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into  the Committee of  Ways and Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Excise  Liquor  Licences. 

now payable  in  respect  of  the licences  for  the 
manufacture  and  sale  of  intoxicating  liquor, 
there  shall  be  charged  throughout  the  United 
Kingdom  on  the 
licences  specified  in  the 
following  table  the  duties of  Excise  specified 
in that table. 

TABLE. 

A . — M A N U F A C T U R E R S'  LICENCES. 

Licence to be taken out 
annually. 

Duty. 

1.* Spirits  :— 

( a)   B y	  a  distiller   o f 

D u ty  specified   in  Scale  1. 

spirits. 

(b)  By a rectifier  of  	

spirits. 


£15 lbs.


2.  B e er   : — 

B y  a  brewer	   o f  beer 

D u ty  specified   in  Scale  2. 

f o  r  sale. 

B y  brewer   of  beer 
not  being  a  brewer 
f or  sale. 

of 
exceeding 

I f  he  is  the  occupier   of  a 
an  annual 
ten 

house  
value 
pounds  and  not  exceed­
ing 
fifteen  pounds  and 
brews  solely f or  his  own 
domestic  use,   9s. 

I n  any  other  case,  4s. 

.  Cider   :— 

B y  a  maker  f or  sale  

£ 5  5s. 

o f  cider. 

.  Sweets   :—  

B y  a  maker  f or  sale  

of  sweets.  


£ 5  5s.  


S C A LE   1. 
Spirit  Distiller's  Licence. 

D u t y. 

E  s.  d. 

Number   of  proof  gallons  o f  spirits  distilled— 

Not  exceeding  50,000 
Exceeding  50,000— 

-

-

-  10  0  0 

F or  every  25,000  proof  gallons   or 

fraction   of  25,000  proof  gallons 

.   10  0  0 

S C A LE   2. 
Licence  to  Brewer  for  Sale. 

Number   of  bulk  barrels  brewed— 

Not  exceeding  100 
Exceeding  100  barrels— 

F or  every   50  barrels   or  fraction   of 
- 

50  barrels 

-

-

-

Duty. 

£  s.  d. 

1  0  0 

0  12  0 

B . — W H O L E S A LE  D E A L E R S'  LICENCES. 

Licence   to  be  taken  out  annually   by  a 

•wholesale  dealer  in 

D u t y. 

1.  Spirits  	

2.  Beer  	

3.  Cider  	

4.  W i ne  	

5.  Sweets  	

£  s.  d. 
-  15  15  0 

-  10  10  0 

-

5  5  0 

-  10  10  0 

. 5 5  0 

C . — R E T A I L E R S'  LICENCES. 

I.—On-Licences. 

Licence   to  be  taken  out 
annually  by  a  retailer   of 

1.  Spirits 

(publican's	 

lieence). 	

2.  Beer 

(beerhouse	 

licence). 	

D u t y. 

A  duty  equal   to  half  the 
the 

annual  value   of 
licensed  premises,  sub­
ject   to 
duty 
Scale   3. 

the  minimum 
under 

payable 

A  duty  equal   to  a  third 
of  the  annual  value   o f 
the 
licensed  premises, 
subject   t o  the  minimum 
under 
payable 
duty 
Scale  3. 

Half  the  duty  specified   in 

Scale   4. 

Motion  made, and  Question  proposed,  That 
on  and  after  the  first  day  of  July  nineteen 
hundred  and nine, in lieu  of  the duties of Excise 

3.	  Cider 

V O L . 1 6 4. 

U  4 

152 	

4.  W i ne  	

5.	  Sweets 

mh—Uth  May. 

1909. 

[No. 53. 

D u ty  specified   in  Scale   4. 

D . — P A S S E N G ER  VESSEL  L I C E N C E S. 

Half  the  duty  specified   in 

Scale   4. 

SCALE   3 . 

Minimum  Duty payable for  Publican's 
and Beerhouse  Licence. 
There shall  be  a  minimum  duty  payable  on 
the publican's licence  and the beerhouse  licence 
respectively,  as shown in the following  scale  :— 

Population. 

Minimum  Duty.  * 

Publican's 
Licence. 

Beerhouse 
Licence. 

In  urban  areas  with  a  popula-
less  than  2,000  and 
tion  of 
elsewhere than  in urban  areas. 

In  urban  areas with  a  population 

of— 

2,000 and less than 

5,000 

5,000 

10,000 

50,000 

„ 

„ 

„ 

10,000 

50,000 

100,000 

100,000 or above  -

£ 
5 

10 

15 

20 

30 

35 

£ 
s. 
3  10 

6  10 

10  0 

13  0 

20  0 

23  10 

For  the purposes  of  this scale  an  urban  area 
means  any  county  borough,  borough,  or  other 
urban  district, and the administrative  county  of 
London  shall  be deemed  to  be  a  single  urban 
a r e a. 

SCALE   4 . 

Wine  Retailer's  On-Licence. 

1.  Licence  to  be taken out annually in respect 
of  a  passenger  vessel  by  the  master  or  other 
person belonging  to  the vessel nominated  by the 
owner of  the  vessel— 

Duty   o f

  -

-

-

-

- 

£ 
10 

2.  Licence  to  be  taken  out  in  respect  of  a 
passenger vessel  by  the master  or  other  person 
belonging to the vessel nominated  by  the owner 
of  the  vessel,  and  to  be  in  force  for  one  day 
only— 

Duty   of

  -

-

-

-

-

£ 
2 

E . — R A I L W AY  RESTAURANT  C AR  LICENCES. 

Licence  to  be  taken  out  annually  in  respect 

of  a railway restaurant car  by  the railway  com­
pany  or other person owning  the  car— 

Duty   of 

-

-

-

-

-

£ 
1 

F .  —  OCCASIONAL  LICENCES. 

Occasional  licences  granted  under  section 
thirteen  of  the  Revenue  Act,  1862  (25  &  26 
Vict.  c. 22), section twenty  of the Revenue  Act, 
1863  (26  & 27  Vict,  c: 33), and  section  five  of 
the Revenue  Act,  1864 (27  & 28 Vict.  c.  18). 

Duties   : — 

(a)  Sale   of  any  intoxicating  liquor—per  day,  10s. 

( b)  Sale   of  beer   or  wine  only—per  day,  5s. 

The  enactments  specified 

to  have  effect 
throughout  the  United  Kingdom.—(Mr.  Chan­
cellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 3, to  leave out the 

words "  and sale."—(Mr.  James Hope.) 

Duty. 

Question put, That the words proposed  to  be 

d. 

left out  stand part of the proposed  Resolution. 

Annual  value   of  licensed  premises— 

Under  £30  


£30  and  under  £50  


£50  and  under  £100 

£100  and  over 

-

' 

-

4  10 

6  0 

9  0 

1 2'  0 

T he  d u ty   o n  a  c i d er  r e t a i l e r 's  o n - l i c e n ce  a nd 

a  s w e e ts  r e t a i l e r 's  o n - l i c e n ce   is   t o   b e  h a lf 

t he 

d u ty  u n d er  t he  a b o ve  s c a l e. 

II.—Off-Licences. 

Licence   to  be  taken  out 
annually  by  a retailer   of 

Duty. 

1.  Spirits 

2.  Beer 

-

3.  Cider 

4.  W i ne 

5.  Sweets 

-  Duty  specified   in  Scale  5. 

-  Duty  specified  in  Scale  6. 

- 

£ 2. 

-  Duty  specified   in  Scale   6. 

- 

£2. 

SCALE   5. 

Spirit Retailer's  Off-Licence. 

Duty. 

£  s.  d. 

Annual  value   of  licensed  premises  — 

Under  £ 30 

-

£30  and  under  £50 

£50  and  under  £100 

£100  and  over 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-  14  0  0 

-  20  0  0 

-  30  0  0 

-  50  0 

0 

S C A LE   6. 
Beer Retailer's  or Wine  Retailer's  Off-Licence 
D u t y. 

Annual  value  o f  licensed  premises-

Under  £30 

£30  and  under  £50 

£50  and  under  £100 

£100  and  over 

£  8.  d. 

3  10  0 

5  0  0 

7  0  0 
10  0  0 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  theJ Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
\ Master of Elibank : 

Yeas, 

198. 

J 

Noes, 

Tellers for the /Mr.  James  Hope,
\Earl  Winterton  : 
Whereupon  Motion  made, and  Question  put, 
That  the  Chairman  do report  Progress,  and ask 
leave to  sit again.—(Sir  Henry Kimber.) 

7 1. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  George Faber, 

\ 
\Sir  Frederick Banbury :J 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

"I  ^^ 
' 
J 
Main  Question  again  proposed  : —  Debate 

plaster  of  Elibanh: 

Noes, 

arising  ; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to move, That  the  Question 
be  now  put;  but  the  Chairman  withheld  his 
assent, and declined then  to put th&t Question :— 
Debate resumed. 

Closure 
claimed,  but 
Chairman 
withholds  his 
assent. 

Whereupon  Motion made, and  Question  pro­
posed,  That  the  Chairman  do  report  Progress, 
and  ask  leave  to  sit  again—(Mr.  Balfour) : — 
Debate  arising; 

Tuesday,  11*A  May 1909 : 
Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose in  his 
place  and  claimed  to move, That  the  Question 
be now put. 

Question put,  That  the  Question  be now put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr. Joseph Pease, 
VMaster of Elibank: 
| Sir Alexander  Acland•

Yeas, 
„ 

m  ,, 
Tellers for the I   ^  ^ 

"}
•218. 
J 

130. 

JN oes, 

H e n ry  F o r s t er   . 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

No. 53.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

10 th—11th May. 

153 

Question  put accordingly, That  the  Chairman 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 


do report  Progress, and ask leave to  sit again. 

resolve  itself into the  said  Committee.  


The  Committee  divided. 
m  ii 
<• 
Tellers tor the J 
Yeas, 

fSir  Alexander  Acland-
j
<  Hood, 
[Mr.  Henry  Forster:  

Tellers for  the f Mr. Joseph  Pease,  

I Master  of Elibank : 

Noes, 

131. 

The  Order  of the  day  being  read, for taking  Board  of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade  Bi!1­
amended  in the  Standing  Committee ; 

|  218. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this day. 


Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Main  Question  again  proposed:  Debate 

arising ; 

The  Prime  Minister  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

Question  put,  That the  Question  be  now put. 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 
„  „ 
„ 
Tellers for the. 
JNoes, 

\ Master of Elibank : 
fSir  Alexander Acland-

H o (  < 

[Mr.  Henry Forster \ 

Main  Question put accordingly. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the [Mr.  Joseph  Pease,

Yeas, 

1 Master of  Elibank : 

Tellers for  thJSir  AIexander Acland­

Noes 

I 
[Mr. Henry Forster : 

' 

j- 206. 

127. 

r 

206. 

1123. 

Resolution  to be  reported. 
Motion  made, and  Question,  That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress, and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain),— put,  and 
agreed  to. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair; 
and the  Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee had come  to a Resolution. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  the  Committee had 
made Progress in  the  matter  to  them  referred ; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee may  have leave to sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

Ways and 
Means 
[29th  April] 
fieport. 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the 29th day  of  April  last; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

Ways and 
Means 
[5th  May] 
Report. 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of  the 5th day  of  this instant  May; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee of  Supply  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

Indian 
Councils 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by 
the  Lords  to  the  Amendments  made  by  this 
House  to the Indian  Councils  Bill  [.Lords] ; 

Ordered,  That the said Amendments  be taken 

into consideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Established 

Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church Church 
(Wales)  Bill;  

(Wales)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London  

Second  Reading  of  the London  Electric  Supply Electric  

B i l l  ; 

J  Supply  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing,  


Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, Town  

&c.  Bill; 

Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 


Resolved,  That  this  House  will, upon  Thurs­
day next, resolve  itself  into the said  Committee.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  t he  Irish  Land 

Committee  on the Irish  Land  Bill; 

Bill. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order of  the day being read, for resuming  Houses of 
the adjourned  Debate  on the Amendment  which, Parliament 
upon the 20th  day  of  April  last,  was  proposed  Bl11, 
to  be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the  Houses 
of  Parliament  Bill  be now read a second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 
Second Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board  J.hc  Board  of 
of Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill; 
aS'Fisheries 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time  u , n' 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Assistant 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster Sostma,st®f„ 

(reneral  Bill.  

„ 
General  Bill; 

.  - n .  ,

a

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time . 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

mem?™!®6" 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  Land 
[Advances, 

Committee  on Irish Land  [Advances,  &c.] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London 

Second  Reading  of the  London  Elections  Bill;  Elections  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Election  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Election of Aldermen  in Aldermen  in 
Municipal  Boroughs  Bill; 

S ^ B i i l  . 

Trade  Boards 
[Expenses.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  tirae 

Committee  on  Trade  Boards  [Expenses] ; 

upon  Monday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

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17  th—18/A  May. 

1909. 

[No. 58. 

House  Letting 
and  Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting  and 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

The  Order of  the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on the  Question  proposed 
upon the 21st day  of  April  last, That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be now read a second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill be read  a  second  time 

this day. 

Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the  Marine Insurance (Gam­
bling  Policies)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the  Law  Agents  (Scotland) 
Act  Amendment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Law  Agents 
(Scotland) 
Act 
Amendment 
Bill. 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Open  Spaces 

Second  Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland) (Scotland) 
Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Small 

Second  Reading  of  the  Small  Holdings  Bill; 

Holdings  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Cheap Trains 

Second Reading  of  the  Cheap  Trains Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sale of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill;  ^garine 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second  time 

Check-

weighing  in  

various 

Industries Bill. Industries  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of the Checkweighing in various 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this dav. 

Upon Monday  next. 

Buildings and 
Engineering 
Works Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the  Buildings  and Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Charitable 
Trusts Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the  Charitable  Trusts  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  the 24th day  of this instant  May. 

The  Rule  Committee  Bill  was, according  to Rule  

Comir 

Order, read a second  time,  and  committed  to  a  Committee 
Bill. 
Standing  Committee. 

And  it being  after  half-past  Eleven  of  the  

clock  on  Monday  evening,  Mr.  Deputy  

Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without 
Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  

Order, it being then sixteen minutes after 

Two  of  the  clock  on  Tuesday  morning,  

till  this day. 


Metropolitan
Ambulances

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

  Second  Reading  of  the  Metropolitan  Ambu­

1  '

lances  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 
upon Thursday the 27th day of this instant  May. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Municipal
Representation  ^ e c o n  d  R e adi ng  of  the  Municipal  Representa-

tion  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  the 24th day of this instant  May. 

Territorial 
Army  Ballot 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Territorial  Army  Ballot 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Necessitous 
Mothers 
(Assistance) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Necessitous  Mothers 
(Assistance)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a  second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

STANDING  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution by  Mr. Speaker, pursuant  to Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

Name   of  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee. 

Coal  Mines  (Checkweighers)  Bill 

-

Bishopric   of  Sheffield  Bill 

-

A . 

A . 

[No.  54.] 

Tuesday, 

May  1909. 

The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three  of the  clock.  


P R A T E R S. 

Theatres and 
Music  Halls 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music 
Halls  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Infant  Life 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Infant  Life  Protection 
Bill; 

fTVHE  Aidershot  Gas  and  Water  Bill  was Aidershot  Gas 
X 

read the third time and passed. 

and  Water 

Ordered,  That  the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Cork, Bandon, and  South  Coast Railway  Cork,  Bandon, 

Bill  was read the third  time and passed. 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk do carry  the  Bill  to  Railway  Bill, 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

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a 

155 

Purchase 
Money. 

ita  a 
s  o< 
2  p< 

PN 

£

s.  d. 

No.  57.]

  9  EDW.  VII.  	

14^—17th 

May. 

Heckmond­
wike and 
Liversedge 
Gas Bill 
[ Lords.*] 

The Heckmondwike  and  Liversedge  Gas Bill 
[Lords]  was  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
with  Amendments. 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint them  that this House 
hath  agreed  to the same, with  Amendments ;  to 
which  this House  doth desire the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

Newry, 

Keady, and  

Tynan 

Bail way  Bill.


The  House proceeded  to  take into  considera­
tion  the  Newry,  Keady,  and  Tynan  Railway

  Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  the third time. 

Ordered,  That the London and  South  Western 
London and

South Western Railway  Bill  [Lords]  be read  a  second  time 
Railway  Bill
[Lords.] 

to-morrow. 

L 

J 

J 

Donington 
Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Donington  Water  Bill 

[Lords]  was, 
according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed. 

Gas 
Provisional 
Orders Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Gas  Provisional  Orders 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 

National  Debt.

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered to lie upon the  Table. 

  Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Return  showing  (1)  the 
aggregate gross liabilities  of  the  State  as repre­
sented  by  the  nominal  funded  Debt,  estimated 
capital liability  in respect of terminable annuities, 
unfunded  Debt,  and  other  liabilities  in respect 
of  Debt, the estimated assets, and the Exchequer 
balances, at the close of  each financial year from 
1835-6  to  1908-9,  both  inclusive;  and  (2)  the 
gross  and  net  expenditure  charged  annually 
during  that period  against  the  Public  Revenue 
on  account  of  the  National  Debt,  and  other 
payments connected  with capital  liabilities. 

Mr. Hobhouse  also presented,  pursuant  to  the 
Superannua­
tion  Act,  1887. directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Treasury  Minute, dated 4th May 1909, granting 
a  retired  allowance  to  Mr.  Frederic  Herbert 
Trench,  Senior Examiner,  Board  of  Education, 
under the  Superannuation  Act,  1887. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That there  be laid before  this House 
a Return  of  the  Naval  Expenditure  of  each  of 
the principal  Naval Powers,  showing  their total 
estimated  Naval Expenditure  in  each of  the last 
ten years, their  Expenditure  in each of the years 
named  on new construction, including armament, 
and  the  amount  of  their  new  construction  in 
each of those years expressed  in  tonnage.—(Mr. 
Thomasson.) 

Naval 
Expenditure 
(Principal 
Naval 
Powers.) 

Irish  Land 
Act,  1903. 

Classification. 

Judicial  rents:—• 

(a)  Fixed  or  agreed  to  since 
the  14th  August  1896 :— 

(1)  Within  zone 
(2)  Not within  zone— 

(i)  Where	  percentage  of 
reduction exceeds  maxi­
mum zone limit of  30 per 
. 
.
cent.
(ii)  Where percentage  of 
reduction  is  less  than 
minimum  zone  limit  of 
10 per cent.  ­

.

.

(b)  Fixed	   or  agreed 
before 
1896  :— 

to 
the  14th  August 

(1)  Within  zone 
(2)  Not within  zone— 
(i)  Where  percentage	  of 
reduction  exceeds  maxi­
mum zone limit  of 40 per 
cent. 

(ii)  Where  percentage  of 
less  than 
reduction  is 
minimum  zone  limit  of 
20 per cent.  ­

Non-judicial rents :— 

Cases  in  which  part	  of  the 
purchase money  is proposed 
to be paid in  cash 

Total for  tenanted land 

(a)  Fixed  or  agreed  to  since 
the 14th August  1896  :— 

(1)  Within  zone 
(2)  Not  within  zone— 

(i)  Where	  percentage  of 
reduction  exceeds  maxi­
mum zone limit of  30 per 
cent.
. 
.
(ii)  Where  percentage  of 
is  less  than 
reduction 
minimum  zone  limit  of 
10 per cent.  ­

.

.

(b)  Fixed	  
before 
1896 :— 

or 

to 
the  14th  August 

(1)  Within  zone 
(2)  Not within  zone— 

(i)  Where	  percentage  of 
reduction  exceeds  maxi­
mum zone limit of  40 per 
cent. 
(ii)  Where percentage	  of 
is  less  than 
reduction 
minimum  zone  limit  of 
20 per cent.
. 
Non-judicial  rents :— 

. 

. 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this  House 
a  Return  relative  to  the  working  of  the Irish 
Land  Act,  1903, in  respect  of  such of  the pur­
chase  agreements  lodged  from  the  passing  of 
the Act  to  the  1st  day  of  November  1908  as 
have been classified and analysed by the Estates 
Commissioners,  and  in  the  form  of  the  table 
published  by  the  Commissioners  at  the foot  of 
page iv  of  their last Report  [Cd. 4277], viz. :— 

VOL.  164. 

Cases  in	  which  part  of  the 
purchase money is proposed 
to be paid in cash 

Total for tenanted land 

"  Parcels"  (Section  2) 
"Demesnes"  (Section  3) 
"  Trustees "  (Section 4)  ­

Total 

-(Viscount  Castlereagh.) 
x  2 

"  Parcels "  (Section 2) 
"  Demesnes "  (Section  3) 
"Trustees"  (Section  4)  ­

Total 

Classification. 

Judicial  rents 

Purchase 

Money. 


Amount 

lodged 

or to be 

lodged 

in  Cash.  


Per­

centage of  Number 
Reduction  of  Years' 
of  Rent  Purchase 
in  the 
of  Rent. 
Annuity. 



 
 
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156 

Standing 
Committee  A. 
Licensed 
Premises 
(Election 
Days)  Closing 
Bill. 

No. 145. 

Mr.  Stuart-Wortley  reported  from  Standing 
Committee  A,  lo  whom  the  Licensed  Premises 
(Election  Days)  Closing  Bill  was  referred; 
That they had  gone  through  the  Bill  and made 
Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be  printed. 

No. 145. 

Bill  189. 

Ordered,  That the  Minutes of the Proceedings 

of the  Standing  Committee  be printed. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee, be taken into consideration 
upon Friday  the  18th day of June next;  and be 
printed. 

27th April 

1909. 
dispensed  with;  that  the  parties  be  permitted 
to  insert  the  proposed  additional  provision  if 
the  Committee  on the  Bill  think fit. 

[No.  44. 

3.  That  in  the  case  of  the  London  County  London 
Council  (Tramways  and  Improvements)  Bill,  County 
Petition  for  dispensing  with  Standing  Order 
128  in  the  case of  the  Petition  of  the  Surrey  and  lmprove-
Commercial  Dock  Company  against  the  Bill,  ments)  Bill. 
and for leave  to  the  Port  of  London  Authority 
to  be heard upon such Petition, the said  Standing 
Order  ought  to  be  dispensed  with;  that  the 
Port  of  London  Authority  have  leave  to  be 
heard upon the said  Petition. 

4.  That  in  the  case  of  the  Torquay  and  Torquay  and 

Standing 
Committee  C. 
Trawling  in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
(Prevention) 
Bill. 

No. 146. 

Sir  Francis Channing  reported  from Standing 

Committee  C,  to  whom  the  Trawling  in  Pro­
hibited  Areas  (Prevention)  Bill  was  referred ; 
That  they had gone  through the  Bill  and made 
Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Paignton  Tramways  [Lords],  Petition  for  Bill 
(Resolution  of  the  25th  day  of  March  referred [Zords.] 
back  to  the  Committee  the  4th  day  of  May), 
the Standing Orders ought  to be dispensed with ; 
that  the parties  be  permitted to include  in their 
Bill  the provisions  for the construction of  Tram­
way No. 2 if the Committee  on  the  Bill  think fit. 

N o.  146. 

Ordered, That the Minutes of the  Proceedings 

Bill  190. 

of  the  Standing  Committee  be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee, be taken  into consideration 
upon  Monday  next;  and  be printed. 

Bank Holidays
Bl11,

Ordered,  That the  Bank  Holidays Bill be.read 

a second time upon  Thursday  next. 

Message from
the Lords.

  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
  Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by 

one of  their Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  said  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second 

time, were agreed to. 

The House was  moved,  That  the  Resolution  Worksop 
reported  this  day  from  the  Select  Committee  Water  Bill 
on  Standing  Orders  in  respect  of  the  Worksop  ^  J"r'u-] 
Water  Bill  [Lords]  might  be  read ;  and  the 
same being  read; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read  a second  time. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the Committee  of  Selection 
Selection  ;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing  (Standing 
Committee  A  the  following  Fifteen  Members 

Indian
Railways
Funds"8
Investment)
Bill  [Lords.]

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  (in respect  of  the  Coal  Mines (Checkweighers)  Committee  A. 

Act  to  include  "  B "  Annuities  payable  under  Bill)  :—Mr.  Robert Pearce,  Mr.  Herbert  Craig, Coal  Mines 
the  East  Indian  Railway  Company  Purchase  Sir  Clifford Cory,  Mr.  Robertson,  Mr.  Walton,  „ ej|hers)  Bill 

  Act,  1879,  among  the  securities  which  may  be  Mr.  Vzrney, Mr. Atherley-Jones,  Mr. John  Wilson
  purchased  for  the  sinking  fund  created  under (Durham),  Mr.  Wulsh,  Mr.  Crean, Mr.  Sheehan,
that  Act,  and  to  make corresponding  provisions 
Viscount  Castlereagh,  Mr.  Carlile,  Mr.  Lane-
regarding  securities which may  be purchased  for 
Fox,  and  Captain  Craig. 
the  sinking  funds  created  under  the  Eastern 
Bengal  Railway  Company  Purchase  Act,  1884, 
the  Scinde,  Punjaub,  and  Delhi  Railway  Pur­
chase  Act,  1886,  the  Great  Indian  Peninsula 
Railway  Purchase  Act,  1900,  and  the  Madras 
Railway  Annuities  Act,  1908,  respectively;  to 
which  the Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

Mr.  Fenwick  further  reported  from  the  Com- Standing 
mittee;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing  Committee A. 
Committee  A  the  following  Fifteen  Members 
(in respect of the Bishopric  of  Sheffield  Bill) :—  Bishopric  of 
Mr.  Walters,  Mr.  Radford,  Mr.  Harwood,  Sir  Sheffield  Bill. 
Joseph  Compton-Rickett, Mr.  I^eif  Jones,  Mr. 
Charles  Nicholson,  Mr.  Walton,  Mr.  Samuel 
Roberts,  Sir  Francis  Sharp  Powell, Mr.  Talbot,
Mr.  Philip  Foster,  Mr.  Pointer, Mr.  Nicholls,
Mr.  Swift MacNeill,  and  Mr.  Hugh Law. 

Indian 
Railways 
(Sinking 
Funds 
Investment) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Indian Railways  (Sinking  Funds  Invest­

ment)  Bill  [Lords'] was read the first time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Postal  Packets
(Lotteries)
Bill. 

  The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon 
Tuesday  next,  the  Postal  Packets  (Lotteries) 
Bill  was read, and discharged. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  withdrawn. 

Mr.  Fenwick  further  reported  from  the  Com-  Standing 
mittee ;  That they  had  discharged  the following  Committee  C. 
Members from Standing Committee C (in respect 
of  the  Trade  Boards  Bill):—Earl  Percy,  Mr.  Trade  Boards 
Brace, Mr.  Mooney, Mr. Branch, and Sir  Walter BiIL 
Foster;  and  had  appointed  in  substitution  (in 
respect  of  the  said  Bill)  :  Mr.  Parkes,  Mr. 
Richardson,  Mr.  Kettle,  Mr.  Black,  and  Sir 
John Burr an. 

Ordered, That  the  adjourned  Debate  on  the 
Local 
Government  Question  proposed  upon  the  7th  day  of  this 
Qualification 
rEngiandand  instant  May,  That  the  Local  Government 
  Qualification  (England  and Wales)  Bill  be  read 
Wales)  Bill.
a second time,  be resumed  upon  Tuesday  next. 

Mr.  Fenwick further  reported  from  the  Com-  Standing 
mittee;  That  they  had  discharged  Sir  JohnGommittee 
Jardine  from  Standing  Committee  C (in  respect 
of  the  Trade  Boards  Bill)  ;  and had reinstated  Trade Boards 
Mr. Howard  on the  Committee.

Bl11­

Standing 
Orders. 

Worksop 
Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Mr.  Ellis reported from the Select  Committee 
on  Standing  Orders  several  Resolutions ;  which 
were read,  as follow : 

1.  That  in  the  case  of  the  Worksop  Water 
Bill  [Lords]  the  Standing  Orders  ought  to  be 
dispensed  with;  that  the  parties  be  permitted 
to proceed  with their Bill. 

Manchester 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

2.  That  in  the  case  of  the  Manchester  Cor­
poration  Bill  [Lords],  Petition  for  additional 
provision,  the  Standing  Orders  ought  to  be 

Ordered, That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Ecclesiastical  Assessments  Ecclesiastical 

(Scotland)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Assessments 
, 
Monday next. 

(Scotland) 
Bill. 

1 

, 

' 

A  Motion  was  made,  and  the  Question  being  Business of 
put, That the  Proceedings  of  the  Committee  oftheH«"se 
(Ways an I 
Ways  and  Means,  if  under  consideration  at 
Means.) 
Eleven  of the clock this night, be  not interrupted 

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No. 54.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

lltii  May.  	

157 

under  the  Standing  Order  (Sittings  of  the 
House—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer)  ; 

The House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right;  

The  Noes  to the  Left. 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 
Tellers for the f 

I Master  of Elibank : 
Alexander Acland­

6

Noes 1" 
' 

1
I Mr.  Henry Forster : 
So  it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

B o o d  >

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/ 

103. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  House, according to Order, resolved itself 

into the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Beer—Customs. 

Resolved, That  in  addition  to  the  duties  of 
Customs  now  payable  on  beer  imported  into 
Great  Britain  or  Ireland  there  shall,  on  and 
after  the  eleventh  day  of  May  nineteen 
hundred  and  nine,  be  charged  the  following 
duties  (that is to  say) :— 

In  the  case  of  beer called  or similar to mum, 
spruce, black  beer,  or  Berlin  white beer, or 
other  preparations,  whether  fermented  or 
not fermented, of  a similar  character— 

For  every  thirty-six  gallons,  where  the 
worts  thereof  are,  or  were  before  fer­
mentation,  of  a specific gravity— 

and  fifteen  degrees,  a  duty   of  -

Not  exceeding  one  thousand  t wo  hundred 
-
Exceeding  one  thousand  two  hundred  and 
-

fifteen  degrees,  a  duty   of 

-

-

-

s. d. 

1  0 

1  2 

In  the case of  every  description  of  beer other 

than that above  specified— 

For  every  thirty-six  gallons,  where  the 
worts thereof were, before fermentation, 
of  a  specific  gravity  of  one  thousand 
and  fifty-five  degrees, a duty  of  three 
pence,  and  so  in  proportion  for  any 
difference in  gravity. 
— (Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 

Duty  in respect  of  Intoxicating  Liquor 
supplied  in Clubs. 
Motion  made, and Question  proposed,  That in 
the  jear  beginning  the  first  day  of  January 
nineteen  hundred  and  ten,  and  in  every  sub­
sequent year, a statement  shall  be  made of  the 
receipts  from  intoxicating  liquor  supplied  in 
every  club  during  the  preceding  year,  and  an 
Excise  duty shall be. charged  at the rate of  three 
pence  for  every  pound  of  those  receipts.—(Mr. 
Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 

Amendment  proposed, in  1. 3, after  the word 

" club,"  to  insert  the  words  "  and  of  the  pur­
chases of  intoxicating liquor  by the  club."—(Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

Question proposed, That  those  words be there 

inserted : 

Whereupon  Motion  made, and  Question  put, 
That the  Chairman  do report Progress, and ask 
leave to  sit again.— (Mr. Balfour.) 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the f Viscount  Valentia, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

\ 
\Mr. Henry Forster •.  J 
i 
J 

\ Master of Elibank : 

93. 

Tellers for the J Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

rate  not  exceeding  six  pence  for  every  pound 
of  those  purchases." —  (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

Main  Question,  as  amended, put, and  agreed 

to. 

Resolved,  That  in  the  year  beginning  the 
first  day  of  January  nineteen  hundred  and  ten, 
and  in  every  subsequent  year, a  statement  shall 
be made of  the  receipts from intoxicating  liquor 
supplied  in  every  club, and  of  the  purchases  of 
intoxicating 
liquor  by  the  club,  during  the 
preceding  year,  and  an  Excise  duty  shall  be 
charged  at  the  rate  of  three  pence  for  every 
pound of  those receipts, or at  a rate not  exceed­
ing six pence for  every pound of those purchases. 
—(Mr.  Chancellor of the  Exchequer.) 

Resolutions to  be reported. 

Land  Value  Duties. 
Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
on and  after the thirtieth day  of  April  nineteen 
hundred  and  nine  the  following  duties  be 
charged  in respect  of  land :— 

(i)  A  duty  on  any increment  value	  accruing  

after the said date  at  the rate of  one pound 

for every full five pounds of  that  value, the 

duty  to  be  taken  on  the  occasion  of  the  

transfer or  the grant of  a lease of  the land, 

and  on  the  occasion  of  the  death  of  any  

person  where  the  property  passing  on  his  

death  comprises  any such  land, and  in  the  

case of  land  belonging  to a  body corporate  

or uninoorporate on such periodical occasions  

as Parliament  may  determine ; 


(ii)  A	  duty  on  the  value  of  any  benefit  

accruing  to  a  lessor  by  reason  of  the 
determination  of  a  lease  at  the rate of  one  

pound for every ten pounds of that  value ; 

(iii)  An  annual  duty  in  respect of  the  capital  

site  value  of  land  which  has  not  been 
developed  for  building  or  other  purposes,  

and the capital  value of  ungotten  minerals,  

at  the  rate  of  one  halfpenny  for  every  

pound  of  that value.  


—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 

Whereupon  Motion made, and  Question,  That 
the  Chairman  do report  Progress, and ask leave 
to  sit  again —  (Mr.  Harold  Cox),—put,  and 
agreed to. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the  

Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That  

the Committee  had come to  several  Resolutions.  


Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 


The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted the  House  that  the  Committee had 
made Progress in the matter  to  them  referred ; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee may  have leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the day being read, for receiving  Ways  and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means 
Means of  the  10th day  of this instant May ; 

Llport^ 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

Question,  That  the  words  "  and  of  the  pur­
chases  of  intoxicating  liquor  by  the  club  be 
there inserted, put, and agreed  to. 

The Order of the day being  read, for  receiving  ways  and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means 
Means of  the  29th  day  of April last; 

Report^"-1 

Proposed  Resolution 

further  amended  by 
adding  at  the  end  thereof  the  words  "  or  at  a 

VOL.  164. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

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11 th May. 

1909. 

[No.  54. 

Ways and 
Means 
[5th  May] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways and 
Means of the 5th day of  this instant May  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the SIR  R. 

Second  Reading  of  Sir R. Whittington's  Charity  Whittington's 
Charity  Bill. 
B i l J  . 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Supply. 

Indian 
Councils  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Bridgend 
Second  Reading of the Bridgend  (Hope  English  (Hope  English 
g  g  &c.) 
Baptist  Chapel, Ac.)  Charity  Bill:
Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time  Charity  Bill, 

The  Order  of  the day  being read,  for  taking 
into consideration the Amendments made by the 
Lords  to  the Amendments  made  by this  House 
to  the Indian  Councils Bill  [Lords] ; 

Ordered,  That the said  Amendments  be taken 

into consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Trade Boards 
[Expenses.]  Committee  on  Trade  Boards  [Expenses]; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill, as 
amended  in the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.J 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.]; 

Resolved,  That this House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill.  Revenue  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Plumage 
(Prohibition  Second  Reading  of the  Plumage  (Prohibition  of 
Exchange  of)  Sale or  Exchange  of)  Bill, 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Tuesday  the 8th day of June  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
. Association  of 
Port  Sanitary  Second  Reading  of  the  Association  of  Port 
Authorities 
(Expenses) 
Bill. 


Sanitary  Authorities  (Expenses)  Bill;  


Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon Tuesday  the  25th day  of  this instant  May. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Factory  and  Workshop 

Factory  and 
Workshop 
Act,  (1901) 
Amendment  Act  (1901)  Amendment  Bill;  

Bill. 


Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 
upon Tuesday  the 25th day  of this instant  May. 

Metropolitan 
Sewers and 
Drains  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Metropolitan  Sewers 
and Drains  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a  second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

Town  Tenants 
Bill- 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the  Town  Tenants  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Mercantile 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Corporations  Second  Reading  of the Mercantile  Corporations 
(MunicTpT163 a n  d  Companies  (Municipal  Franchise)  Bill; 
Franchise) 
Bl11' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 
upon  Wednesday  the  19th  day of  this  instant 
May. 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  t he  John  


Second  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  C h a r i t  y  Marshall's  

B i  n  . 

Charity  Bill.  


Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lichfield  and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Lichfield  and Longdon  Longdon 
Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Charity  Bill ; 

Trust  Property 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time Charity  BilL 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dewsbury 
Second  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley  and  Ba'ley
Congregational  Chapel Charities  Bill; 

ChapeiS&  0 na 
Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time  charities  Biu­

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Wortley 

Second  Reading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational  Congregational 
Chapel  Charity  Bill;  _ 

S t  y  Bill. 

_ 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours of 

Second  Reading  of  the Hours  of  Labour  (Sur- 1,tabo£ur 
tacemen)  Bill;

(surfacemen) 
{jm. 

x  t,.,, 

°

n 

v

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Municipal  • 
Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Elections  Elections Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  the  Registration  of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Registration  of Nurses Nurses 
(Scotland)  Bill" 

km  a n d) 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public  Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  A c  t 
(1875) Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

(1875) 

fwato 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time Ei°hts) BiU­

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Law  Agents 
Second Reading  of  the  Law  Agents  (Scotland)  0 » n d  ) 
Act  Amendment  Bill;  
Amendment 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time Bl11­

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Open  Spaces 

Second Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland)  (Scotland) 
Bill; 

Bl11' 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  small 

Second  Reading  of  the Small Holdings  Bill; 

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Ordered,  That  the  Bill  he  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Cheap  Trains 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the  Cheap  Trains  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the  Sale of  Margarine  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of  the 
clock, Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the  House 
without  Question  put,  pursuant  to  the 
Standing  Order,  it  being  then  twenty-
five minutes before  Twelve  of  the  clock, 
till to-morrow. 

S T A N D I NG  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution by  Mr. Speaker, pursuant  to Stand­
ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

N a me   of  B i l l. 

Standing 
Committee. 

R u le  Committee  Bill 

-

B . 

[No.  55.] 

Ordered,  That  it  be  au  Instruction  to  the  Frimley  and 
Committee  on  the  Frimley  and  Farnborough  Famborough 
District  Water  Bill  that  they  have  power  to ^ ,t d ct  W a t er 
inquire  into  and  report  whether  it  would  be 
practicable  and reasonable  to impose  obligations 
upon the promoters  to  supply  water  by  measure 
for  agricultural  purposes  within  their  limits  of 
supply ;  and, if  so, under what conditions persons 
should  be  entitled  to  demand  and  receive  such 
supply.—(Mr.  Stanier.) 

Ordered,  That  Standing  Orders  2 0  4  and  2 3  5  Wells  Gas 
be  suspended,  and  that  the  Wells  Gas  Bill  Bill  [Zfwvfo.] 
[.Lords]  be  now  read  a  second  time. —- ( T he 
Chairman  of  Ways  and Means.) 

The  Bill  was accordingly  read  a  second  time, 

and  committed. 

Ordered,  That  Standing  Orders  211  and 236 
be  suspended,  and  that  the  Committee  on  the 
Bill  have  leave  to  sit  and proceed  forthwith.— 
(The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Gas 

Second  Reading  of  the  Gas  Provisional  Orders  Provisional 
t,.,, 
Orders  Bill. 
Bill ; 

& 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

A  Motion  was made,  and  the  Question  being  Edinburgh 
put,  That Mr.  Speaker do  issue  his  Warrant  to  ^ f H f  e s  t 
the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make  out  a  new 
Writ  for  the  electing  of  a  Member  to  serve  in 
this present Parliament for  the  Burgh  of  Edin­
burgh ( West Division), in the room  of  Sir  Lewis 
M'lver,  Baronet,  who,  since his  Election for the 
said burgh, hath accepted  the  Office  of  Steward 
or Bailiff of  His Majesty's Manor  of  Northstead, 
in the  County  of  York—(Sir  Alexander Acland-
Hood) ; 

Wednesday, 12th  May  1909. 
The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of the  clock. 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to the  Right;  

The  Noes to  the  Left. 


P R A T E R S. 

Ammanford  THE  House  proceeded  to take into  considera-

tion  the  Ammanford  Gas  Bill,  as amended 

Gas  Bill. 

in  the  Committee. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read the third time. 

City  of 
(Stotet
Traffic) Bill,  amended in the  Committee. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take into  considera­
  L o n d o  n  (Street  Traffic) Bill, as 

t i on 

t he

o f

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read the  third  time. 

The  House  proceeded to  take into  considera-
United 
Kingdom 
tion  the  United  Kingdom  Temperance  and 
Temperance 
and  General  General  Provident  Institution  Bill  [Lords],  as 
Provident 
Institution 

amended  in the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  the  third  time. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
North  and 
South  Shields  Second  Reading  of  the  North  and  South Shields 
Electric 
Railway  Bill,  Electric  Railway  Bill; 

Yeas 
' 

Tellers for t h e \ ^  l e f a n d er  
1
  H o o di
(Mr.  Joseph Pease: 

] 
r
J 
"1 
(Mr.  Thomas Richards: J 


Tellers  for the/Mr.  Charles  Duncan, 

Noes, 

139. 

59. 

So  it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 


Several  Public  Petitions were  presented,  and  Public 

read;  and ordered  to lie  upon the  Table. 

r 

Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Trade  Reports 

His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  (Annual 
and Consular Reports, Annual  Series,  No. 4211. Series,~> 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Merchant 
from  certain  Shipping 

Command, —  Copy  of  Reports 
Foreign  and  Colonial  Ports  respecting  the ^men!)11 
Desertion  of  Seamen  from British  Ships. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper do lie  upon the 

Ordered, That the  said  Order be  discharged. 
Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

Table. 

London  and 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
South  Western  Second  Reading  of  the  London  and  South 
Railway  Bill.  W e g t e r  n  Railway  Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read a second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  20th  day  of  this  instant 
May,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour  after  Eight  of 
the  clock. 

VOL.  164. 

The  following  Papers,  pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament, were  laid  upon 
the Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  H o u s e :— 

Copy  of  Rules  of  the  Supreme  Court  under  Supreme  Court 

the  Companies (Consolidation)  Act,  1908,  dated  (Bules.) 
3rd  May  1909. 

Copy  of  Rules  of  the  Supreme  Court,  dated  Supreme  Court 

3rd  May  1909. 

(Rules.) 

x  4 

 
 
 




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11th—l&th 

May. 

1909. 

[No. 59. 

Financial 
Statement, 
1909-10 
(Estimated 
Yield  of 
proposed 
Taxation.) 

N o.  147. 

Ordered,  That there  be laid before this  House 
a  Copy  of  Statement  showing  the  estimated 
Yield  in  the  years  1909-10  and  1910-11,  and 
ultimately, of  the  new  and  increased  Taxation 
proposed  by the  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer  in 
his Budget  Speech  on  Thursday  the 29th  April 
1909.—(Mr.  Hobhouse.) 

Mr.  Hobhouse  accordingly  presented  the  said 

Paper. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Local 
Authorities 
(Legal 
Expenses) 
Bill. 

Scottish 
Standing 
Committee. 
Temperance 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Local  Authorities  (Legal 
Expenses)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Tuesday  next. 

Mr.  John  William  Wilson reported  from the 
Standing  Committee  on Scottish  Bills, to whom 
the Temperance  (Scotland)  Bill  was  referred; 
That they  had gone  through  the  Bill  and  made 
Amendments  thereunto. 

No. 148. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

No. 148. 

Ordered, That the Minutes of the Proceedings 

Bill  191. 

of  the  Standing  Committee  be  printed. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee, be taken into consideration 
upon Monday  next;  and be printed. 

on  the  Postmaster  General  further  powers  to 
prevent  the  use  of  the  Post for the conduct  of 
Lotteries  or traffic  in  obscene  matter:  And  the 
same  was ordered  to be read a second  time  upon 
Tuesday  next;  and to be  printed. 

Mr.  Sydney Buxton  presented  a  Bill  to  give  Telegraph 
further  powers  to  the Railway  and Canal  Com-  (Arbitration) 
mission to determine  differences with  respect  to  1  ' 
Telegraphs  (including  Telephones)  :  And  the 
same was ordered to  be read a second time  upon 
Monday  next;  and to  be printed. 

Bill  193. 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being  Business of 

put, That the Proceedings  of  the  Committee of  the House 

Ways  and Means,  if  under  discussion  when  the  ^ ^ \  a u  d 

Business is postponed  this  day,  be resumed and  

proceeded  with, though  opposed, after the inter­
ruption  of Business—(The  Prime  Minister);  


The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the / Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
„ 

m  „ 
Tellers for the 
JNoes, 

I Master of Elibank : 

("Sir  Alexander  Acland-


H o ( f dj 

[ M r. Henry Forster : 


So it was resolved  in the Affirmative.  


I  268. 

106. 


New  Member
sworn.

  Maurice  Healy,  Esquire,  Member  for  the 

Borough of  Cork, was sworn. 

The  House, according to Order, resolved  itself Ways and 

into  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means. 

Means. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  B. 
Bule 
Committee 
Bill. 

Standing 
Committee B. 

Bule 
Committee 
Bill. 

Mr. Fetiwick reported  from  the  Committee  of 

Selection ;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol­
lowing  Member from  Standing  Committee  B  (in 
respect  of  the  Rule  Committee  Bill)  : —  Mr. 
Churchill i  and  had  appointed  in  substitution 
(in  respect  of  the  said  Bill) :  Mr.  Attorney 
General. 

, Mr.  Fenwich further  reported from  the  Com­
mittee ;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing 
Committee  B  the  following  Eleven  Members 
(in  respect  of  the  Rule  Committee  Bill)  : — 
Mr.  Charles  Roberts, Mr.  Napier, Mr. Horridge,
Mr.  Michlem, Sir  John  Jardine,  Mr.  Clement 
Edwards, Mr.  Arnold  Herbert,  Mr.  Rawlinson,
Sir  Clement Hill,  Mr.  Hills,  and  Sir  Francis 
Lowe. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Message from
the Lords.

  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
  Message  had been brought  from  the  Lords  by 

Littlehampton
Gas Bill.

one of their  Clerks,  as followeth  : 
  The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Littlehampton 
Gas  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which  the 
Lords desire the concurrence  of  this  House. 

Anglo-
Argentine
Company  Bill
[Lords.]

Sunday
Closing
(Shops)  Bill.

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Anglo-Argentine 
  Tramways  Company  Bill  [Lords],  without  any 

Amendment. 

Ordered, That  the  Sunday  Closing  (Shops) 
Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Tuesday  the 

8 th  d ay

  o f   j u ne 

n e x t

. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Land  Value  Duties. 

Question  again  proposed,  That  on  and  after 
the thirtieth  day of  April  nineteen hundred and 
nine the  following  duties  be charged  in respect 
of land :— 

(i)  A	  duty  on  any increment  value  accruing  

after the said date  at the  rate of  one pound  

for  every  full  five  pounds  of  that  value,  

the duty  to be  taken  on the  occasion  of  the  

transfer or  the grant of  a lease  of  the land, 

and on  the  occasion  of  the  death  of  any  

person  where  the  property  passing  on  his  

death  comprises  any such land, and  in  the  

case of  land belonging  to  a  body  corporate  

or unincorporate on such periodical occasions 

as Parliament  may  determine ; 


(ii)  A	  duty  on  the  value  of  any  benefit  

accruing  to  a  lessor  by  reason  of  the  

determination of  a lease  at the  rate  of  one  

pound  for every  ten pounds of that value ; 


(iii)  An  annual duty  in respect  of  the  capital  

site  value  of  land  which  has  not  been 
developed  for  building  or  other  purposes,  

and  the capital  value of  ungotten  minerals,  

at  the  rate  of  one  halfpenny  for  every 
pound  of  that  value  


—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer):—Debate 
arising; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose in  his 
place  and  claimed  to move, That  the  Question 
be now put. 

Salmon,
Trout, and
mSLtaBm.

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon 
Tuesdav  next,  the  Salmon,  Trout,  and  River 

p ut
r 

  T w e ed   Fisheries  Bill was read, and discharged. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a  second  time 

upon Wednesday  next. 

Post Office 
(lotteries  and
Matter) Bill,  and  Sir Albert  Spicer,  presented  a Bill to confer 

Mr.  Beale,  supported  by  Sir  Henry  Craih, 
  Arthur  Henderson, Mr.  Hutton,  Mr .Rose,

M r ,

Bill  192. 

  be  now Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question

_

The  Committee  divided.
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease,
\Mr.  Herbert Lewis:

Yeas, 
Tellers for 
•jj 
i N o e s  ' 

Alexander Acland­

<  Hood,
[Lord  Balcarres :

Question  put  accordingly. 

296. 

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161 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

„  .. 
. 
Tellers for the J  Hood, 

Yeas, 
„ 

Noes, 

(.Master of  Elibank : 
fSir  Alexander Acland-

[Lord  Balcarres : 

J 

330. 

120. 

Resolution  to  be  reported. 
Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the Chairman do report  Progress,  and ask leave 
to  sit  again—(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain)  :— 
Debate  arising; 

render  it  impossible  for  many  constituencies 
to  exercise  a  free  choice  in  their  selection  of 
candidates  and election  of  Members  of  Parlia­
ment ;  and  this  House  is  of  opinion  that  any 
measure of  general electoral reform passed before 
the  dissolution  of  this  Parliament, and coming 
into  force  upon  or  after the dissolution, should 
be  accompanied  by arrangements  for  the  pay­
ment of  Members elected  to serve in  Parliament, 
and for the  transfer  to  the  Imperial  Exchequer 
of the  financial  responsibility  for  the  returning 
officers'  expenses  incurred 
in  the  conduct  of 
such  elections. 

Sir  Edward  Carson  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

Question,  That the  Question be now put, put, 

and agreed to. 

Question  put accordingly, That the Chairman 

do report  Progress, and ask leave to sit again. 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  National 

Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools  Schools 
(Heating and Cleansing)  BiH; 

& ? „ !  ) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a  second time Bin> 

to-morrow. 

Payment of 

Members. 


Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
m  ii 
Tellers for the I  ^  ^ 

j. 

(Sir  Alexander Acland-

1  e a s  ' 

[Lord  Balcarres : 


Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease,  

(Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 

Noes, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Death 
Second  Reading  of  the  Death  Certificates Certificates 
(Charges)  Bill; 

(Charges)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

106. }

302. 

And 

it  being  after  a  quarter-past  Eight 
of  the clock, further  proceeding  was  postponed 
without  Question put, in pursuance  of  Standing 
Order  No. 4. 

A  Motion  was  made, and the Question  being 
proposed,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House, 
the non-payment of  Members and the liability  of 
candidates  for  the  returning  officers'  expenses 
render  it  impossible  for  many  constituencies 
to  exercise  a  free  choice 
in  their  selection 
of  candidates  and  election  of  Members  of 
Parliament;  and  this  House  is  of  opinion that 
any measure  of  general  electoral reform passed 
before  the  dissolution  of  this  Parliament,  and 
coming  into  force upon  or  after the  dissolution, 
should  be accompanied  by  arrangements  for  the 
payment  of  Members elected  to serve  in Parlia­
ment,  and  for  the  transfer  to  the  Imperial 
Exchequer  of the financial responsibility  for the 
returning  officers'  expenses 
in  the 
conduct  of  such  elections—(Mr.  Higham) :— 
And  a Debate  arising thereupon  ; 

incurred 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Road Traffic 

Second Reading  of  the Road  Traffic Bill;

Bil1­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Clerks of the 

Second Reading  of  the Clerks of  the  Peace and Peaoe  and 
County  Councils Bill; 

SuncfisBiU. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Wednesday  uext. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Justices of the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Justices  of  the  Peace Peace  BiUi 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be read a second  time 

upon Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cruelty  to 
Second  Reading  of  the  Cruelty  to  Animals Animals  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a  second time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Mr.  Higham rose  in  his  place  and claimed to 

move, That  the  Question  be now put. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That the  Ques­

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Asylum 
Second  Reading  of  the Asylum  Officers' Super- Officers' 
annuation  (Scotland)  Bill; 
annuation 

tion be now  put; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Npes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the] Mr.  Higham, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fenwick  : 

Tellers for  the/Viscount Morpeth, 
(.Lord  Robert  Cecil: 

Noes, 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the  Question being  accordingly  put; 
The House  divided. 
The Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the / Mr.  Higham, 
IMr.  Fenwick:  


Yeas, 

Tellers for the f Sir  William Bull, 


Noes, 

IMr.  Carlile : 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time  ^Scotland)  


upon Wednesday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning  

Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial  industrial  

Tools Bill; 

ToolsBi11­

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time  


j  261. 

I 75. 

to-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Hours of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Sur- Labour 
facemen) Bill; 

(Surfacemen) 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time  


to-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Small 

|  242. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Small Holdings Bill; 

Holdings  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

}  92. 

to-morrow. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Resolved, That,  in  the  opinion  of  this House, 
the non-payment  of  Members and the liability of 
candidates  for  the  returning  officers'  expenses 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sale of 
Second Reading  of the Sale of Margarine Bill;  Margarine 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

162 

Ways  and 
Means. 

Postponed proceeding resumed. 

Income  Tax. 

XWi—lSth  May. 

[No. 55 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trade  Boards 
[Expenses.] 

Committee  on Trade  Boards  [Expenses] ; 

1909. 

Chairman 
declines  to 
propose  the 
Question 
(Abuse  of 
Rules.) 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
Income  Tax  shall  he  charged,  for  the  year 
beginning  the  sixth  day  of  April  nineteen 
hundred  and  nine,  at  the  rate  of  one  shilling 
and  two  pence  in  the  pound,  and  that  an 
additional  duty  of  Income  Tax  at  the  rate  of 
six pence in  the pound  be  charged  in respect of 
incomes  which  exceed  five  thousand  pounds  on 
every  pound of the  amount by  which the income 
exceeds three thousand pounds.—(Mr. Chancellor 
of the  Exchequer.) 

Whereupon  Sir  Frederick  Banbury  moved, 
That  the  Chairman  do  report  Progress,  and 
ask leave  to sit again;  but  the  Chairman, being 
of opinion  that  the  Motion was an abuse of  the 
Rules  of  the  House,  declined  to  propose  the 
Question thereupon  to the  Committee. 

Question  again  proposed,  That  Income  Tax 
shall  be  charged,  for  the  year  beginning  the 
sixth  day  of  April  nineteen hundred  and nine, 
at  the rate of one shilling and two  pence  in  the 
pound,  and  that  an  additional  duty of  Income 
Tax  at  the  rate  of  six pence  in  the  pound  be 
charged  in respect  of  incomes which  exceed  five 
thousand pounds on every pound of the amount by 
which the income exceeds three thousand pounds: 
Thursday,  13th May  1909 : 

Motion made, and  Question,  That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer),— 
put, and agreed to. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair; 
and the Chairman of  Ways and  Means reported, 
That the Committee had come to a  Resolution. 
Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that the  Committee  had 
made Progress  in  the  matter  to them referred ; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order of  the  day being read, for  taking  Board  of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade  Bill, 
amended  in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Revenue  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

this day. 

And it being  after  half-past  Eleven of  the  

clock on Wednesday evening, Mr. Deputy  

Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without  

Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  

Order,  it  being  then twenty-two minutes  

before  One  of  the  clock  on  Thursday  

morning,  till this day. 


[No.  56.] 

Thursday, 13th May  1909. 

The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three of the  clock. 


P R A T E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Provisional 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions 0 r d er  Bills 
for  Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the  &  8 
g 
following  Bill,  referred  on  the  First  Reading  applicable 
thereof, the  Standing  Orders  which  are  applic-there^? 
able thereto have been complied  with, viz. :— 

Local Government Provisional Orders (Gas) 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Ways  and 
Means 
[11th  May] 
Report. 

The Order of the  day being  read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the  11th day of this instant  May  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

s 

Ways  and 
Means 
[10th  May] 
Report. 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the  10th day  of  this instant  May ; 

Ordered,  That  the Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Gas  Provisional  Orders  Bill  Was,  Gas 

according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and  Provisional 
committed. 
Orders  Bdl. 

Ordered,  That  in  the  case  of  the  Gas  Pro- Gas 

visional  Orders  Bill  Standing  Order  208a  be ordTrsBUl 
suspended, and  that it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
Committee of  Selection  to  refer  so  much  of  the 
Bill  as  relates  to  the  Prestatyn  Gas  Order 
to  the  Local  Legislation  Committee.  —  (The 
Deputy  Chairman.) 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and Public 

Ways  and 
Means 
[£9th  April] 
Report. 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of  the 29th  day of April  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

Ways  and 
Means 
[5th  May] 
Report. 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  ana 
Means of the 5th day of this instant  May ; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 
Mr.  Birrell presented,  by His  Majesty's  Com- Ireland 
mand,—Copy  of  Report of  the  Lord  Lieutenant  Development 
of  Ireland  of  all  his  Proceedings  under  the 1903. 
Ireland  Development  Grant  Act,  1903,  for  the 
year ended 31st March  1909. 

Grant  Act, 

Copy  of  Return  of  the  number  of  Evictions Evictions 
from  Agricultural  Holdings  in  Ireland  which (Ireland.) 
have come to the knowledge of the  Constabulary, 
and also of the number of Tenancies determined, 
in the  quarter ended 31st  March  1909. 

Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,—Return  to  an Resident 
Order,  dated  the  5th  day  of  April  last,  for  Magistrates 
a  Return  relative  to  Resident  Magistrates (lr®land-) 
149­
(Ireland). 

No.  47.]  9  EDW.  V I I. 

30  th  April.  	

163 

Ordered,  That the said  Papers do lie upon the 

Table ; and that the said Return  be printed. 

Trade Reports  Secretary Sir Edward Grey presented,  by  His 
Majesty's Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic and 
(Annual	 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4 2 03  to 
Series.) 
4205  and 4212. 

Treaty  Series 
Copy  of  Abrogation  of  the  Convention 
(No. 12,1909.)  between  the  United  Kingdom  and  Hayti  of 
6th April  1906  respecting  Nationality,  1st  April 
1909. 

Ordered, That the  said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Polling 
Districts 
(County  of 
Durham.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copy  of  Order  made  by . the  Council  of  the 
County  of  Durham,  altering  certain  Polling 
Districts  in  the  Jarrow,  Chester-le-Street,  and 
Barnard  Castle Parliamentary  Divisions. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Dogs 
(Exemption) 
Bill. 	

Ordered, That  the  adjourned  Debate  on  the 
Question  proposed  upon  the  28th  day of  April 
last,  That  the  Dogs  (Exemption)  Bill  be  now 
read a second time, be resumed upon  Wednesday 
next. 

Hours of 
Ordered,  That  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Bake­
(BsSehouses)  houses)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  Upon 
Bill. 

Wednesday  next. 

Pontypridd 
Water Biil. 	

Sir Luke  White reported from  the  Committee 
on  the  Pontypridd  Water  Bill;  That  with 
regard  to  the  Instruction  of  the  House  of  the 
19th  day  of  March  last  the  Committee,  after 
hearing  evidence, were of the opinion that,  as no 
abstraction  of  water  was  proposed  by  the  Bill, 
this  was  not  a  case  to,  which  the  Instruction 
applied. 

Sir  Luke  White  further  reported  from  the 
Committee ;  That  they  had  examined  the  alle­
gations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill, 
and amended the same so as to make it consistent 
with  the  Bill  as  passed  by the  Committee, and 
found the same, as amended, to be true ;  and had 
gone  through  the  Bill  and  made  Amendments 
thereunto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

The  Chairman of  Ways  and  Means reported 
Local 
Government 
from the  Committee  on  the  Local  Government 
Provisional 
Order (Poor  Provisional  Order  (Poor  Law)  Bill;  That they 
had  considered  the  Order  therein  contained ; 
Law)  Bill. 
[Provisional 
that the said  Order  ought to be  confirmed  ,* and 
Order 
that  they  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill, 
confirmed.] 
with  Amendments, to the  House. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

Harrogate Gas  The  Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Harrogate  Gas 
Bill. 	
Bill;  That  they  had  examined  the  allegations 
contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and 
amended the  same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent 
with the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as passed  by  the 
Committee,  and  found  the  same,  as  amended, 
to  be true;  and  had  gone  through  the Bill and 
made Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Liskeard and 
Looe and 
Liskeard  and 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means  reported 
from the  Committee  on  the  Liskeard  and  Looe 

y O I i .  164. 

and  Liskeard  and  Caradon  Railways  (Vesting,  Caradon 
&c.)  Bill  [Lords] ;  That  they  had  examined  the  ? ^ ™y s & 0 )
allegations contained  in the Preamble  of the Bill, BiiT[™or^.j 
and verbally  amended  the  same,  and  found  the 
same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and  had  gone 
through  the  Bill  and  made  Amendments  there­
unto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and  be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported.South 

the South  Lincolnshire  Water Bill  [Lords'],  with  ^ater  Bill™ 
Amendments. 

[Lord*.] 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported  Weils Gas Bill 

from  the  Committee  on  the  Wells  Gas  Bill [Lords.] 
[Lords];  That  they  had  examined  the  allega­
tions  contained  in the  Preamble  of  the Bill, and 
amended  the  same  so  as  to  make it  consistent 
with  the  provisions  of  the Bill  as passed  by the 
Committee,  and  found  the  same,  as  amended, 
to  be  true;  and had  gone  through  the Bill  and 
made Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee  Selection  o 
of  Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the  ^ ^ ^  . 
following Member from  Standing Committee  A  :  standing 
—Mr.  Philip Foster ;  and had  appointed in  sub-  Committee A. 
stitution  (in respect of  the Bishopric of Sheffield 
Bill) :  Mr.  Stuart- Wortley, 

Shefheld Bm. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the Lords  by  the  Lords, 
one of their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Wandsworth  Wandsworth 

Borough  Council  (Superannuation)  Bill,  with  c ^ j }  1 
Amendments;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  (Superannua­
concurrence  of  this  House. 

tion)  Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Leyland  and  Leyland  and 
Farington Gas  Bill, with Amendments ;  to which  ^arington  Gas 
the Lords  desire the concurrence  of this  House. 

' The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments  Wirral 

made  by  this  House  to  the  Wirral  Railway  Extension  of 
(Extension of  Time)  Bill  [Lords],  without  any  Time) Bill 
Amendment. 

[Lords.] 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments Heckmond­
made by  this House  to  the  Heckmondwike  and wike and 
Liversedge  Gas  Bill 
[Lords],  without  any Gas Bill 
Amendment. 
[ Lords.] 
The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Electric 

Liversedge 

Act  to  amend  the  Acts  relating  to  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment) 
Lighting;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  con- Bill  [Lords.]
currence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  South  Eastern 
Act  to  extend  the  time  for  the  compulsory Chatham °D' 
purchase  of  lands  and  for  the  completion  of  and  Dover 
works for  the  South Eastern  and London,  Chat- Railways Bill 
ham,  and  Dover  Railways ;  to  make  provision [Lords.] 
respecting  the  carriage-road  bridge  over  the 
River  Swale,  the  management  of  the  separate 
properties of the two Companies by the Managing 
Committee  and  Joint  General  Meetings  of  the 
two  Companies,  and  for  other  purposes ;  to 
which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  South  Western 

Act  to  empower  the  South-Western  and Isle of and isle of 
Wight  Junction  Railway  Company  to  construct  ^ ^  ^ 
a railway  and pier extension;  to  raise additional  Railway  Bill 
capital;  to  revive  and  extend  the  powers  for  [Lords.]
the purchase  of  lands  and  the  time  limited  for 
Y  2 

[No. 56. 

the completion  of  works  by  that  Company, and 
for  other  purposes ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire 
the concurrence  of  this  House. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time ; 

and  Eskdale 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords.'] 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Act  for  incorporating  the  Eskdale  Railway 
Company  ;  for  vesting  in  that  Company  the 
undertaking  of  the  Ravenglass  and  Eskdale 
Railway  Company,  and  for  other  purposes 
to 
which  the  Lords  desire the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

South  Eastern 
and  London, 
Chatham, 
and  Dover 
Railways  Bill 
[Lords.J 

The  South  Eastern  and  London,  Chatham, 
and  Dover  Railways  Bill  [Lords'] was  read  the 
first time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

South  Western 
and Isle of 
Wight 
Junction 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  South Western  and Isle of  Wight  Junc­
tion  Railway  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  the  first 
time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

Rarenglass 
and  Eskdale 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Ravenglass  and  Eskdale  Railway  Bill 

[Lords] was read the first time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made to 
the  Question, by  leaving  out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  six  months." — (Mr. 
Ramsay  Macdonald.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word " now "  stand part of  the  Question  :—The 
said  proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of 
the  House, withdrawn. 

And  the Main  Question being  put; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be now  read a second 
time:—1The Bill  was accordingly  read  a  second 
time, and committed. 

Postponed  proceeding  on  Question,  That  a Supply 

sum  not  exceeding  £4,750,000  be  granted  to  (GivUS™s 
His  Majesty,  to  complete the sum necessary  to  Departments 
defray the charge which  will  come  in  course of  Estimates.) 
payment during the year ending  on the 31st day 
of  March  1910  for  the  payment  of  Old  Age 
Pensions in the  United  Kingdom, and for certain 
Administrative  Expenses  in  connection  there­
with, resumed. 

Question  again  proposed:—Motion,  by  leave, 

w i t h d r a w n. 

Foreign  and 
Colonial  Meat 
Bill. 

Bill  194. 

Mr.  Hunt,  supported  by  Mr.  L.ane-Fox and 
Mr.  Bridgeman,  presented  a Bill to  provide that 
all sellers  of  Meat  who sell Foreign  or  Colonial 
Meat only, or in addition  to  Meat  from animals 
reared  and  fed  in  the  United  Kingdom,  shall 
have  a  notice  to  that  effect  plainly  written  on 
their shops and on the vehicles which  they use for 
selling  their goods :  And  the  same  was  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Thursday  the 
17th day  of  June next;  and to he printed. 

And  it  beinw Eleven  of  the  clock, the Chair­
man left  the  Chair  to  make  his  Report  to  the 
House. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  acquainted the 
House  that  the  Committee had made  Progress 
in  the  matter  to  them  referred ;  and  that  he 
was  directed  to move, That the  Committee may 
have leave  to  sit again. 

Supply 
[7tU  allotted 
Day.] 

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself 

into the Committee  of  Supply. 

Resolved, That  this House  will, upon  Monday 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Civil  Services and Revenue  Departments 
Estimates,  1909-10. 
Class  VI. 
Motion  made, and  Question  proposed,  That  a 
sum  not  exceeding  £4,750,000  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty,  to complete  the  sum  necessary  to 
defray the charge which  will  come  in  course  of 
payment during  the year ending on the 31st day 
of  March  1910  for  the  payment  of  Old  Age 
Pensions in the  United  Kingdom, and for certain 
Administrative  Expenses  in  connection  there­
with : 

And  it being  a quarter of  an hour  after Eight 
of the clock,  and  there  being  Private  Business 
set down by  direction  of  the  Chairman  of  Ways 
and Means under  Standing  Order  No. 8, further 
proceeding  was postponed  without  Question put. 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving  Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  S u p p ly   of  [27th  April] 
the 27th day of April  last; 

Eeport-

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  supply 

into  consideration  the  Sixth  of  the Resolutions  [22nd  March] 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day of  March  last, were ?D&°erred 
reported  from the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the  Resolution.) 
22nd  day  of  March  last  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be taken 
into further consideration upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning,  Town 
&c.  Bill; 

Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 


Resolved, That this House will, upon  Monday  


next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee.  


Gas  Light and  The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to  

Coke Company take into  consideration  the  Gas Light  and Coke 

BlU*

Company  Bill,  as amended in the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read the third time. 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving  Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and rjot"aMa  i  

Means of  the  12th day of  this instant May  ; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report be  received  upon 

London

County

(Money)  Bill.

  (Money)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the London  County  Council 

Monday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read  a second  time Committee  of  Ways  and  Means ; 

Means. 

upon Monday  next. 

Resolved,  That  this House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

Westminster 
City  Council  g e c 0nd  Reading  of 
tion)BmMa"  Council  (Superannuation)  Bill  [Lords]  ; 
| Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Westminster  City 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trade Beards 
[Expenses.] 

Committee  on  Trade  Boards  [Expenses] ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  t he  Ways and 

 
 
 


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Resolved,  That this House will,  upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Road Traffic 

Second  Reading  of  the Road  Traffic Bill; 

BiU-

Board  of  	
Trade  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as 
amended in the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Customs and 	
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Beading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Local 	
Authorities 
(Advertising) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Authorities 
(Advertising)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Thursday  the  10th day of  June  next. 

Bank  Holidays  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
BiU- 

Second  Reading  of the Bank  Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Sir R. 	
Whittington's  Second Reading  of Sir R. Whittington's  Charity 
Charity  BilL 

Bill 5 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Bridgend 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
BaptistBngUah  Second  Reading  of the Bridgend  (Hope  English 
Chapel, &c.)  Baptist  Chapel, &c.)  Charity  Bill; 
Charity  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be read a second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial J,nd?st™.1 
Tools Bill; 

° 

. 

' 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Tuesday  next.' 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Hours of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Hours of Labour  (Sur-  Labour 
facemen)  Bill; 

(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Sale  of  Margarine Bill  was, according  to  Sale  of 
Order, read a second time,  and  committed  to  a  Margarine 
Standing  Committee. 

Bill. 

A  Motion  was made,  and  the  Question  being  Military 
proposed, That  an humble Address be presented Manures 
to  His  Majesty,  praying  His  Majesty  to  (order  in 
make  an  Order  in  Council  under the  Military  Council.) 
Manoeuvres  Act,  1897,  a  draft  of  which  was 
presented  to  this  House  on  the  16th  day  of 
February  last—(Mr. Acland):—And  a  Debate 
arising  thereupon; 

And  notice  being  taken  that  Forty  Mem­

bers  were  not  present,  the  House  was  

told  by  Mr.  Speaker;  and  Forty  Mem­
bers  not being  present, and it being then  

after  Four  of  the  clock, the  House  was  

adjourned  by  Mr.  Speaker  without  a  

Question first put,  at eleven minutes after 

Eleven  of  the clock, till  to-morrow.  


John 	
Marshall's 
Charity  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  Charity 
Bill; 

[No.  57.] 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

Friday,  14th  May  1909. 

upon  Thursday next. 

Lichfield and 	
Longdon 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Lichfield and  Longdon 
Chapels andnal  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust  Property  Charity  Bill; 
Charity  I  . 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Dewsbury	 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Congregational  Second  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 
Chapel 
Charities  BiU. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second  time 

Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill; 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Wortley 
Cha^igati°nal  Second  Reading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational 
Charity  Bill.  Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Irish  National 
Schools 
(Heating  and 
Cleansing) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating  and Cleansing)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Death 

(	 

g 

) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Death  Certificates 
(Charges)  Bill  ; 

The  House  met  at  Twelve  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private  Bills 

from  one of the Examiners  of  Petitions for  ^ ^ J  0 1  
-
Private  Bills,  That  in  the case of  the  Petition provision) 
for  additional  provision  in  the  following  Bill  (Standing 
the  Standing  Orders  have  not  been  complied0rders. " o t 
with, viz. :— 

v^tff)16 

Hull  and Barnsley  Railway  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  referred  to the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

The  Newry,  Keady, and Tynan  Railway  3ill  Newry,  Keady, 
Rauwayiuii 

was read the third  time and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire  their  concurrence. 

The  House proceeded  to take  into  considera-  Midland 

tion  the  Midland  Great  W estern  Railway  of   ® r e a  t  Western 
Ireland Bill,  as amended  in the Committee. 

irelandLBm. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read the third time. 

The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Local 

take  into  consideration  the  Local  Government Government 
Provisional  Order (Poor  Law)  Bill,  as  amended orderTpoor 
in the  Committee. 

Law)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the  third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Thursday  the  17th day  of  June  next. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders  Local 

(Gas)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a Government 
Ordered) 
second  time, and committed. 
Bill. 

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27th April 

1909. 

[No. 44. 

Public 

Several  Public  Petitions were  presented, and 

read>  and ordered to lie upon the  Table. 

Vide Second 
Report. 
Combinations  Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
MeatTrade  Command,—Copy  of  Minutes of  Evidence taken 
(Departmental before  the  Departmental  Committee  on  Com-
  binations  in  the  Meat  Trade, with  Appendices 
Committee.)

and Index  to the  Evidence. 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day  six  months."  —  (Mr. 
M' Arthur.) 

Railway
Accidents.

Copy  of  Returns  of  Accidents  and Casualties, 
a s  r e p o r t e (  j  t o  the Board of  Trade  by the several 
Railway  Companies  in  the  United  Kingdom, 
during  the  three  months  ended 31st December 
1908 ;  together  with  Reports  of  the  Inspecting 
Officers of  the Railway Department  to the Board 
of  Trade  upon  certain  Accidents  which  were 
inquired  into. 

Ordered,  That the said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Education

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His 

(Contkmation
Classes.)

  Majesty's  Comman d,—-Copy  of  Code  of  Regu­
lations  made  by the  Committee  of  Council  on 
Education  in  Scotland for Continuation  Classes, 
providing  further instruction  for those  who have 
left school, 1909. 

Ordered,  That the  said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Trade Reports
Series^1
enes.)

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic 
and Consular Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos. 4202 
and 4214. 

Ordered,  That the  said Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Shop Hours 
Act, 1904. 

Super­
annuations. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant 

to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copies of  Orders  made  by  the  Councils  of  the 
Boroughs  of  Pudsey  and  Stalybridge  under 
the  Shop  Hours  Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by 
the  Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Depart­
ment,  fixing  the  hours  of  closing  for  certain 
classes of  Shops. 

Ordered, That the  said Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Treasury  Minute  under  the  Superannuation 
Act,  1859, dated  10th May  1909, declaring  that 
for the  due and  efficient  discharge  of  the duties 
of  Headmaster  at  the  Royal  Naval  Colleges  at 
Dartmouth, and  Osborne  professional  or  other 
peculiar  qualifications  not  ordinarily 
to  be 
acquired  on the  Public  Service  are required. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper do lie upon the 

Table. 

Military 
Manoeuvres 
Act,  1897 
(Order in 
Council.) 

Ordered,  That  the  adjourned  Debate  on  the 
Question  proposed  upon  the  13th  day  of  this 
instant May, That  an  humble  Address  be  pre­
sented  to  His  Majesty, praying  His  Majesty  to 
make  an Order  in  Council  under  the  Military 
Manoeuvres  Act,  1897,  a  draft  of  which  was 
presented  to  this  House  on  the  16th  day  of 
February  last, be resumed upon  Monday  next. 

Gamblin g in 
Options 
(Prohibition) 
Bill. 

Bill  195. 

Mr.  Field,  supported  by  Mr.  Nannetti,  Mr. 
Hazleton, and  Mr.  Meehan, presented  a  Bill  to 
prohibit  gambling  in  Futures  and  Options  in 
produce, metals, and shares :  And  the same was 
ordered  to be read a second  time  upon  Tuesday 
the 8th day  of June  next;  and to be printed. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 
Word " now "  stand part of  the  Question  :—And 
a  Debate  arising thereupon ; 

Mr.  William Redmond  rose  in  his  place  and 

claimed to move, That the  Question be now put. 

tion  be now put ; 
, 

And  the  Question  being put, That the  Ques-  Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

. 

, 

r 
The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Captain  Donelan, 

"1 . 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the/Dr.  Hazel, 

1 Mr. Patrick  O'Brien :  / 
\ 
j 

113. 

Noes, 

\ Mr.  Godfrey Baring  : 
So it  was resolved in the Affirmative. 

And  the Question being  accordingly put, That 


the word "  now "  stand part of the  Question  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Captain  Donelan, 

\133. 

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien :  J 

Tellers for the/ Mr.  M:Arthur,  


Noes, 

iMr.  Boulton  :  


j  123. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

And  the  Main  Question  being put ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  now read a second 

time :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  a  second 
time. 

A  Motion was made, and  the  Question  being 
put, That the Bill  be  committed to  a Committee 
of the whole House—(Mr.  Dunn) ; 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas to the Right  ;  

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 

Tellers  for the/Mr.  Dunn,  

(Mr.  Sloan:  


Yeas, 

Tellers for the/Captain Donelan, 


]  124. 

} l 2 1. 

Noes, 

|_Mr. Patrick O'Brien 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

The  Bill  was  accordingly  committed  to  a  


Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Monday 
next. 

_ 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dogs' 

Second Reading  of  the  Dogs'  Protection  Bill; 

Protection 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trawlers'  

Second  Reading  of  the  Trawlers'  Certificates  Certificates  

^pension 
Suspension  Bill! 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time  


upon Friday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Criminal  


Second  Reading  of the  Criminal  Appeal  Bill; 

Appeal  Bill.  


Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time  


upon Friday  next.  


Roman 

Catholic 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Roman  Catholic  Dis­

Removai'e&c.
Bill. 

  abilities Removal,  &c.  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Railways 
Second  Reading  of the Railways  (Eight  Hours)  flight  Honrs) 
Bill  ; 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 






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Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

upon Friday  next. 

Table. 

Medical  Acts 
Amendment 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Medical  Acts  Amend­
ment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Friday  next. 

Handloom 
Weaving  Bill. 

The  Handloom  Weaving  Bill  was, according 
to  Order, read  a  second  time, and committed  to 
a  Standing  Committee. 

Begistration o!
Clubs  Bill.

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Registration  of  Clubs 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

Sea  Fisheries 
Regulation 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of the  Sea Fisheries Regulation 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

Ordered, That  the  Small  Holdings  Bill  be  Small 

read a second  time  upon  Monday next. 

Holdings  Bill. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant  

to  Standing  Order  No.  3,  it  being  then  

twenty-seven  minutes  after  Five  of  the  

clock, till  Monday  next.  


STANDING  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution  by Mr. Speaker, pursuant to  Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

N a me   of  B i l l. 

Standing 
Committee. 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Sale   of  Margarine  Bill 

-

B . 

Metropolitan 
Sewers  and 
Drains Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Metropolitan  Sewers 
and Drains  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

[No.  58.]  . 

Municipal
Elections  Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Seeond  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Elections 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be read  a second time 

Monday,  17th May  1909. 

The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 

before  Three  of  the  clock. 


upon  Tuesday  next. 

Begistration 
of  Nurses 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Registration  of  Nurses 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating  and  Cleansing)  Bill; 

P R A Y E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private  Bills 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions 

for  Private  Bills,  That  
i n  the  Case  of  the  Orders not 
following  Bills,  originating  in  the  Lords,  and  previously 
referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof,  the eomplied™'0 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into,  with.) 
and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have  been 
complied  with, viz.  :— 

Indian  Railways  (Sinking  Funds  Invest­

ment)  Bill  [ Lords].


Irish  National 
Schools 
(Heating  and 
Cleansing) 
BiU. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

South  Eastern  and  London,  Chatham,  and  


upon Monday  next. 

Customs and
Inland
Revenue  Bui.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

-d-h

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Dover  Railways  Bill  [Lords],


South Western and Isle of  Wight  Junction  


Railway  Bill [Lords]. 


Ravenglass  and  Eskdale  Railway  Bill 

[Lords], 


Ordered, That the Bills  be read a second  time.  


Railway  Bills 
(Group 2.) 

North  West 
London 
Railway  BiU. 
[Preamble 
not  proved.] 

Railway  Bills 
(Group  4.) 

Mr. Ashton reported  from  the  Committee  on 

Group 2  of  Railway  Bills ;  That, for  the  con­
venience of parties, the Committee  had adjourned 
till Wednesday next, at half an hour after Eleven 
of the  clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  House  proceeded  to take  into  considera-  Leyland  and 
tion the Amendments made  by the  Lords  to  the  Farington  Gas 
Leylaud  and Farington Gas Bill;  and the same Bl11* 
were twice read, and agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the Bill  to 
the Lords ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Sir Joseph Compton-Richett reported  from  the 

Committee  on  the  North  West  London  Railway 
Bill;  That  they  had  examined  the  allegations 
contained in  the Preamble  of  the  Bill, but the 
same had not been  proved to  their satisfaction. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be printed. 

Sir Joseph Compton- Richett reported from the 

The  House  proceeded  to  take into considera-  Littlehampton 

tion the  Amendments made by  the Lords  to the Gas  Bm-
Littlehampton  Gas  Bill;  and  the  same  were 
twice  read,  and agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint them  that  this  House 
hath agreed  to  the  Amendments made  by their 
Lordships. 

Committee  on  Group 4 of  Railway  Bills;  That, 
for  the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee 
had  adjourned  till  Tuesday  next,  at Eleven  of 
the clock. 

VOL.  164. 

The  House  proceeded  to take  into  considera- Wandsworth 

tion  the  Amendments  made by  the Lords  to the  Borough 
Wandsworth  Borough Council (Superannuation) (s°aperlnnua-

Y  4 

tion)  Bill. 

 
 
 
 




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nth  May. 

1909. 

[No.  58. 

Bill;  and the same were twice  read,  and  agreed 
to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the Lords ;  and acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by their 
Lordships. 

Ammanford 
Gas Bill. 

The  Ammanford  Gas  Bill was read the third 

time and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

City of 
London 
(Street Traffic) 

Bill. 

The  City of  London  (Street  Traffic) Bill  was  


read the third time and passed. 


Ordered,  That the Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to  


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  also presented,  pur-Factory  and 

Workshop 
suant to the directions of  several Acts of  Parlia­
(Schemes for 
ment,—Copy  of  Scheme  for  the  employment Regulation  of 
and  education  of  Children  at  Saint  Martin's Hours of 
Orphanage,  Waterford,  approved  by  the  Secre­
tary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department,  in Charitable 
pursuance  of  the  Factorv  and  Workshop  Act, Institutions.) 
1907. 

Employment, 
&c. in 

Copy  of  Scheme  for  the  regulation  of  hours Factory and 
of  employment  and  intervals for meals and rest (Schemes for 
for  Workers  in the  Redcote  Convent,  Bitterne, Regulation  of 
Hants,  approved  by  the  Secretary  of  State for Hours of 
the  Home	  Department,  in  pursuance  of  the &c. in 
Factory  and  Workshop  Act,  1907,  in substitu- Charitable 
tion  for  the  Scheme  approved  on  30th  March Institutions.) 
1909. 

Employment, 

Workshop 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Copies of  Orders made  by the  Council  of  the Shop  Hours 

Gas Light and  Ordered,  That  the  Gas  Light  and  Coke 
Coke Company  Company  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  upon 
Thursday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour  after 
Eight of the clock. 

United 
Kingdom 
Temperance 

and  General 
Provident 

Institution 
BiU  [Lords.] 

The  United  Kingdom  Temperance  and  Gen-
eral Provident  Institution  Bill  [Lords]  was read 
the third time  and passed, with  Amendments.  


Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and acquaint them that  this  House 
hath agreed  to the same, with  Amendments ;  to 
which this  House doth desire the  concurrence  of 
their Lordships. 

Great  Western  Ordered, That  the  Great  Western  Railway 
Railway 
(Steam  Vessels)  Bill  [Lords]  be  read  a second 
(Steam
time to-morrow. 
Vessels) Bill 	
[Lords.1 

North  East 
London 
Railway  Bill. 

The  North  East  London  Railway  Bill  wa3 

read a second time, and committed. 

The  Stock  Conversion  and  Investment  Trust 
(North  Eastern Railway  Consols)  Bill  [Lords]

Stock 
Conversion 
and  Invest­
ment Trust  was read  a second time, and committed. 
(North 
Eastern 
Railway 
Consols)  Bill 
[Lords.] 


Worksop 
Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

London 
County 
Council 
(Money)  Bill. 

The  Worksop Water  Bill  [Lords]  was read  a  


second time, and committed. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the London  County  Council 
(Money)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Local 
Government 
Provisional 
Order  (Poor 
Law)  Bill. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Order 
(Poor  Law)  Bill was,  according  to  Order,  read 
the third  time and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Order made upon the 24th day of  March 
Baker Street 
and  Waterloo  last,  That  the  .Baker  Street  and  Waterloo 
Railway  BiU.  Railway  Bill  be  committed,  was  read,  and 

discharged. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be  withdrawn. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented,  and 

read;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Second  

Report. 

Factories  and  Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Workshops. 	 Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the 
Chief  Inspector  of  Factories  and  Workshops 
for  1908. 

Ordered,  That  the  said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

City of  Cardiff under the Shop Hours Act, 1904, Act'
and confirmed by the  Secretary  of State for  the 
Home  Department,  fixing  the  hours  of  closing 
for  certain  classes of  Shops. 

1904­

Copy of  Correspondence relative to the refusal Police  Act, 

of  the  Secretary  of  State's  Certificate  under 189°­
Section  17  (2)  of  the  Police  Act,  1890,  to  the 
River  Tyne  Police  Force  for  the  year  ended 
29th September  1908. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to Lunacy 
the directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  (Scotland.) 
of  Rules  and  Conditions  on  which the  General 
Board of  Commissioners in  Lunacy for  Scotland 
have granted their Licence  for  the  reception  of 
Pauper  Lunatics  into  the  Greenock  Parochial 
Asylum. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Trade  Reports 

His  Majesty's Command,—Copies  of Diplomatic  (Annual 
and Consular Reports, Annual  Series, Nos. 4215  Senes > 
to 4217  and 4220. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Sir  Edward Strachey presented,  pursuant  to  Destructive 
the directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  p^g^cts*1 
of  Order,  dated  8th  May  1909,  under  the 1877" andSl907. 
Destructive  Insects  and  Pests  Acts,  1877  and 
1907, entitled the  American  Gooseberry  Mildew 
Order of  1909. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Irish  Land 
Command,—Copy  of  Return  of  Advances made  Commission, 
under  the  Irish  Land  Act,  1903,  during  the 
month of November  1908. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented, —  Return  to  an  Government 
Order,  dated  the  19th  day  of  April  last,  for  g®^t™enfcs 
Returns  relative  to  Government  Departments 
Securities. 

Ordered,  That the said Return do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

The  following  Paper, pursuant  to  the  direc-  Loan Societies, 

tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament, was  laid  upon 
the  Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House:  — 
Abstract  of  Accounts  of  Loan  Societies  in 
England  and Wales for the year 1907, furnished 
to the Central Office for the Registry of Friendly 
Societies. 

No.  58.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

11th May. 

169 

Electric 
Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment) 
Bill [Lords.] 
Bill  196. 

The  Electric  Lighting  Acts  (Amendment) 
Bill  [Lords] was read  the first time, and  ordered 
to be read  a second time  upon Wednesday  next; 
and to  be printed. 

The  South  Staffordshire  Water  Bill  [Lords]  South 

was read  the nrst time. 

3 

,   j . 

Staffordshire 
Water Bill 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  [Lords.,I 

Examiners of  Petitions  for Private  Bills. 

Waste  Lands
TIrelroyement

Bill. 

Public Health 
Officers Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Waste  Lands  (Ireland) 
I mP r o v ement  Bill   be  read  a  second  time upon 
Monday  next. 

The  Alliance  and Dublin  Consumers  Gas Bill  Alliance and 

[Lords]  was read the first time. 

consumers Gas 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Order for  reading  a  second  time,  upon 
Wednesday  next,  the  Public  Health  Officers 
Bill  was read, and  discharged. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  the 23rd  day  of June  next. 

Message from
the Lords.

  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
  Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by 

one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

Conway Gas 
Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Conway  Gas 
Bill,  with  Amendments  ;  to  which  the  Lords 
desire the concurrence  of  this  House. 

Municipal

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 

Act   t o 

t h  e  disqualification  of  Clerks 
(Qualification
of  Clergymen)  in  Holy  Orders  and  other  ministers  of  religion 
  as  municipal  councillors;  to  which  the  Lords 
Bill  [Lords.]

r e u l o v  e 

^ d  WPater BUl
[Lords.]

desire  the concurrence  of this  House. 

T he 

l i 0 r ds  h a ve   P?S8ed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Act  to  enable  the  JPontypool  Gas  and  Water 
Company  to  construct  further  waterworks ;  to 
raise further capital, and for  other  purposes ;  to 
which  the  Lords,desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

Alexandra  ^
Bouth^Wales)
Docks and
Railway  Bill
L or  S-J

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
  Act   t o  empower  the  Alexandra  (Newport  and 
South  Wales)  Docks  and  Railway  Company  to 
  raise  additional  capital;  to  make  provisions  in 
relation  to  the  consolidation  and  cancellation 
of  existing  capital;  to  extend  the  time for  the 
completion  of  certain  works,  and for  other  pur­
poses ;  to which the Lords desire the concurrence 
of this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
RioTinto
Company  Bill  Act  to enable the Rio  Tinto Company,  Limited, 
to  issue  transferable  certificates  and  warrants 
L ar SJ
' '
for the delivery of  goods, and for other  purposes; 
to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of 
this  House. 

South 
Staffordshire 
Water BiU 
[Lords.] 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
A.ct to  authorise the  South Staffordshire  Water­
works  Company  to  construct  new  works ;  to 
sanction and confirm the construction  of  existing 
works;  to raise additional  capital,  and for  other 
purposes ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  con­
currence  of this  House. 

Alliance and
Dublin
Consumers Gas
Bill  [Lords.]

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Act  to confer further  powers  upon  the  Alliance 
i  • i 
1  ^ 
a nd  Dublin  Consumers  Gas  Company  ;  to which 
the Lords  desire the  concurrence  of  this  House. 

,  p. 

/-i 

x 

, 

Pontypool  Gas

The  Pontypool  Gas  and  Water  Bill fLords'] 

[SyBm was read thefirst time-

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of  Petitions for  Private Bills. 

Alexandra 
The  Alexandra  (Newport  and  South  Wales) 
SouthPWaies)  D o c k  ?  a n  d  Railway  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  the 
Docks and 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for  Private  Bills, 

time. 

first 

Rio  Tinto 
Company Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Rio  Tinto  Company  Bill  [Ijords]  was 

read  the first time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

VOL.  164. 

Examiners of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

Ordered,  That  the  Law  Agents  (Scotland)  Law  Agents 

Act  Amendment  Bill  be  read  a  second  time ^totIarid)
upon  Wednesday  the 9th day  of  J une next. 

Amendment 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland)  Open  Spaces 

Bill  be read  a second time  upon  Wednesday  the  ^Scotland) 
9th day of  June  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Blackgame  Bill  be  read  a Blackgame 

second time  to-morrow. 

Bill. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon  Salmon, 
Wednesday  next, the  Salmon,  Trout,  and  River  R^Tweed 
Tweed  Fisheries  Bill was  read, and discharged.  Fisheries  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  the  16th  day  of  June  next. 

Mr. John  0 ' Connor,  supported  by  Mr.  Moore,  Onion Officers 
Mr.  Harrington,  Mr.  Fetherstonhaugh,  and  Mr. (Ireland)  Bill. 
Clancy, presented  a  Bill  to  amend the  Law  as  BM 197. 
to  the  superannuation  of  certain  Workhouse 
Officers  in  Ireland:  And  the same  was ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Monday  next; 
and to  be  printed. 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being  Business  of 
put, That  the  Proceedings  of  the  Committee  of  ^House^ 
W a y  s  and  Means, if  under discussion  at Eleven  Means.)"1 
of  the clock  this night, be not interrupted  under 
the  Standing  Order  (Sittings  of  the  House)— 
(The  Prime  Minister); 
The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Master of  Elibank : 

"1 222 
J 

Tellers for  the f 
Noes, 

Alexander Acland- | 

84. 

[Viscount  Valentia  :  


So it was resolved  in the  Affirmative.  


The  House, according  to Order,  resolved itself  Ways and 

into the  Committee  of  Ways  and Means.

Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Income  Tax. 
Question  again  proposed,  That  Income  Tax 
shall  be  charged,  for  the  year  beginning  the 
sixth  day of April  nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  at 
the  rate  of  one  shilling  and  two  pence  in  the 
pound,  and  that  an  additional  duty  of  Income 
Tax  at  the  rate  of  six  pence in  the  pound  be 
charged  in  respect of incomes  which  exceed  five 
thousand  pounds  on  every  pound  of  the  amount 
by  which  the  income  exceeds  three  thousand 
pounds—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer)  :— 
Debate  arising; 

o 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place and claimed  to move, That the  Question be 
now  put. 

Question  put, That  the  Question  be  now put.
The  Committee divided.

Tellers for  thefMr.  Joseph  Pease,


  Question put 
sxTciraure 
o £  Debate.) 

Yeas, 
™ 
r 
Tellers  for the I
Noes, 

,, 

(Master  of  Elibank: 
fSir  Alexander  Acland-

[Lord  Balcarres x 

z 

1  _260. 

123. 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
170 

17 th—18/A  May. 

1909. 

[No. 58. 

Question  put  accordingly.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
(.Master of Elibank : 

Yeas, 

\ oqo 

J 

Tellers for  t h e S  S i v T f f a n d er  A c l a n d '  \  QC 

Noes 
' 

.Hood> 

) 
[Viscount  Valentia: 

r
J 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
no  exemption,  abatement,  or  relief  under  the 
Income  Tax  Acts  shall  be  given  to any person 
who  is  not  ordinarily  resident  in  the  United 
Kingdom.—(Mr.  Chancellor of the  Exchequer.) 
Amendment  proposed, in  1. 2,  after  the  word 
"  person,"  to  insert  the  words  "  other  than  a 
British subject."—(Captain  Craig.)

Question  proposed,  That those words be there 

inserted :—Debate  arising ; 

Mr.  Chancellor of  the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and claimed  to  move, That  the  Question 
be now put. 

Question put, That the  Question  be now put. 
T h  e  Committee proceeded  to a  Division, 

Tuesday,  18 th  May  1909 : 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
(Master  of  Elibank: 

Yeas, 

^215 

J 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

The  Order of the  day being read, for receiving  Ways and 
the Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  j^ nj I a yi 
Means of  the 5th  day  of this instant  May ; 

feeport. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

The  Order of  the day being read, for receiving  Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the  10th day of this instant May; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

The  Order  of the day being read, for receiving Ways and 
.. 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and J®®1*"® 
Means of  the  11th day  of  this instant  May ; 
Report. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

The Order of  the day being read, for receiving Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the  12th day  of this instant  May ; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

Question  put 
s p a  Closure0 
of  Debate.) 

T il  

f S ir   Alexander  Acland­

-f  4-U 
1
[Viscount  Valentia  : 

'
H o o d  

'  

Noes 
' 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Supply. 

Committee of  Supply  ; 

f 1 0 8, 
J 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  those  words 

be there inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the f Captain Craig, 

Yeas, 

IMr.  Hicks Beach : 
Tellers for the f Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

1 Master of  Elibank : 

j  106. 

1 
J 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  claimed, 

That the  Main Question  be  now put. 

Main Question  Main  Question put  accordingly, 
to  8^0"closure  The  Committee  divided. 
of Debate.) 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
(Master  of  Elibanh: 
(Sir Alexander  Acland.­

Yeas, 
™ 
„ 
Tellers for the I 
Noes, 

,, 

/ / w  > 

[ Viscount  Valentia  : 

)  2„4 
f 

I  1 0 3 . 
J 

Resolutions to be  reported. 

Stamps. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  stamp  duties  charged  on  conveyances  or 
transfers  on  sale  of  property  or  leases shall  be 
double those  now  chargeable.—(Mr.  Chancellor 
of  the  Exchequer.) 

Whereupon  Motion made, and Question, That 
the  Chairman  do report Progress,  and ask leave 
to  sit  again—(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain),—put,
and agreed  to. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed the  Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  come  to  several 
Resolutions. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

The0  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  the  Committee had 
made Progress  in  the  matter  to  them referred ; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have leave to sit again. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

Resolved, That this  House will, upon  Wednes­
day  next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order of  the day being read, for resuming  Military 
the adjourned  Debate  on the  Question proposed ^atn®gl9v7res 
upon  the  13th day  of  this instant May, That  an (Order in 
humble Address  be  presented  to  His  Majesty,  Council.) 
praying  His  Majesty  to  make  an  Order  in 
Council  under  the  Military  Manoeuvres  Act, 
1897,  a  draft  of  which  was  presented  to  this 
House  on the  16th  day of  February  last—(Mr. 
Acland) ; 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed:— 
The  House resumed the said adjourned  Debate, 

And  the  Question  being  put; 
Resolved, That  an  humble  Address  be  pre­
sented  to  His  Majesty, praying  His  Majesty  to 
make  an  Order  in  Council  under the  Military 
Manoeuvres  Act,  1897,  a  draft  of  which  was 
presented  to  this  House  on  the  16th  day  of 
February  last. 

Ordered,  That  the  said Address  be presented 
to  His  Majesty  by  such  Members of this House 
as are of  His  Majesty's Most Honourable  Privy 
Council,  or  of  His  Majesty's  Household. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Established 
Bill. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church 
(Wales)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  London 
Second  Reading  of  the London  Electric  Supply fk°piyCBill-
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  Land 

Committee  on the  Irish  Land  Bill; 

Bil1­

Resolved,  That  this House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into  the said Committee. 

Ways and 
Means 
Sort^ 1" 1  M e a ns   o f  t he  2 9 th  d a J  of"  A P r il   Jast; 

' he Order of  the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways and 

The Order  of  the day being read, for resuming  Houses of 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment  which, Parliament 
upon  the  20th  day  of  April  last, was proposed  1  ' 

No. 58.]

9  EDW.  Y I I. 

17th~lSth  May. 

17.1 

to  be made  to the  Question,  That  the Houses  of 
Parliament  Bill  be now read a second  time; 

Ordered,  That  the said Amendments  be taken 

into consideration  this day. 

Secretary  of 
the  Board  of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Board 
of Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  Land  

[Advances, 

Committee  on Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.]; 

Resolved,  That this House will, upon  Monday  


next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee.  


Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Telegraph 
Second  Reading  of  the Telegraph  (Arbitration)  (Arbitration) 
B i l l;  

Bl11' 

Assistant 
Postmaster 
General  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 
General  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday  next. 

Places of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

London 
Elections  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the  London  Elections  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Election  of 
Aldermen  in 
Municipal 
Boroughs  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Election of Aldermen  in 
Municipal Boroughs  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

House  Letting 
and  Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting  and 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be read a second  time 

this day. 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies)  Bill. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned  Debate  on the  Question  proposed 
upon  the 21st  day of  April  last, That the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be  now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till  this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading of the Marine  Insurance  (Gam­
bling  Policies)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this day. 

Check-
weighing  in 
various 
Industries  Bill 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
in 

Second  Reading  of  the  Checkweighing 
various Industries  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Buildings  and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the Buildings and  Engineer­
ing Works  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

Trawling  in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
(Prevention) 
Bill. 

The  Order of  the  day being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited 
in  the 
Areas  (Prevention)  Bill,  as  amended 
Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Indian 
Councils  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read,  for  taking 
into consideration  the Amendments  made  by the 
Lords to the  Amendments  made  by this House 
to  the Indian  Councils Bill  [Lords]  ; 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing,  


Committee  on the  Housing, Town  Planning, &c. Town  

TVII 
B » 1  5 

Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

° 

° 

Resolved,  That this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trade  Boards 
[Expenses.] 

Committee  on  Trade  Boards  [Expenses]  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day,  


resolve itself into the said  Committee.  


The  Order of  the  day being read, for  taking  Board  of Trade 

into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade Bill,  as Bill, 
amended  in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs  and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland Mand 
Revenue  Bill; 

Revenue  BUI. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 


this day. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Leaseholds 
Second  Reading of the Leaseholds  (Enfranchise-  (Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 
ment) Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 


this day. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Territorial  


Second  Reading  of  the  Territorial  Army  Ballot 
Bill;  

Bl11' 

Ballot 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Necessitous  


Second  Reading  of  the  Necessitous  Mothers  Mothers  

(Assistance)  Bill;  

^Assistance) 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second time  


upon  Monday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Theatres and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music  Music  Halls  

Halls Bill;

m

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ecclesiastical 
Second  Reading  of  the  Ecclesiastical  Assess- Assessments 
ments (Scotland)  Bill; 

(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  the  18th  day  of  June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public  Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  A c  t  Act  (1875) 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

f ^  m e n  t 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time Eishts> Bm­

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap  Trains 

Second  Reading of  the Cheap  Trains Bill  ; 

BilI« 

z  2 









172 

11th—l&th May. 

1909. 

[No.  59. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

this day. 

Temperance 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Temperance  (Scotland) 
Bill,  as amended  in the Standing  Committee  ; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon Friday the 4th day of June  next. 

Bank Holidays  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Bil1­  

Second  Reading  of the  Bank  Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on  the  Roman  Catholic  Disabilities 

Roman 
Catholic 
Disabilities 
Removal,  &c.  Removal, &c.  Bill; 
Bill. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera-  'Jskeaid  and 
tion  the  Liskeard  and  Looe  and  Liskeard  and  ^ ^  ^ 
Caradon  Railways  (Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords'], caradon 
as amended in the Committee. 
Railways 
(Vesting,  &c.) 
Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  the third  time.  Bill  {Lords.'] 

. 

The  House  proceeded to  take  into  considera-  Pontypridd 
tion  the  Pontypridd  Water  Bill,  as amended  in Water  BilL 
the  Committee. 

Ordered,,  That the Bill be read the third  time. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take into  considera- Wells  Gas  Bill 

tion the Wells  Gas Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  in {L'-'rds-] 
the  Committee. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read the third time. 

Resolved,  That this  House  will, upon  Monday 
the  14th day of June  next, resolve  itself into the 
said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Great  Western 

Second  Reading  of  the Great  Western  Railway  Stilway 
(Steam  Vessels)  Bill  [Lords]  ; 

• 

Vessels)  Bill 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Dogs'  Protection  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time  lLords-] 

upon  Thursday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of the  clock. 

this day. 

Irish National 
Schools 
(Heating  and 
Cleansing) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating  and  Cleansing)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

this day. 

Mr.  Masterman, supported  by  Mr.  Burns,  Local 

presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Government 
Orders of the  Local  Government  Board relating orfers°(No. 5) 
to  Kendal,  Milton  Regis,  Surbiton,  the  Isle  of Bin. 
Wight  Joint  Hospital  District,  the  Scunthorpe  Bill  198. 
and  Crosby  Joint  Sewerage  District,  and  the 
District of the Accrington District Gas and Water 
Board :  And the same  was read  the first time. 

Small 
Holdings  Bill.  Second  Reading of the  Small  Holdings  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be  printed. 

this day. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of 
the  clock  on  Monday  evening,  Mr. 
Deputy  Speaker  adjourned  the  House 
without  Question  put,  pursuant  to  the 
Standing  Order,  it  being  then  sixteen 
minutes  after  One  of  the  clock  on 
Tuesday  morning, till  this day. 

Mr.  Masterman,  supported  by  Mr.  Burns,  Local 

presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Government 
Orders of the  Local  Government  Board relating  ord"rs  (No. 6) 
to  Batley  and  Dewsbury  :  And  the  same  was  Bill, 
read  the first time. 

Bill  199. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills ;  and 
be printed. 

STANDING  COMMITTEES. 
Distribution  by Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

Mr.  Masterman,  supported  by  Mr.  Burns,  Local 

presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional p^J^™^®"' 
Orders of the Local  Government  Board relating  orde'ra (No.  7) 
to  Birmingham  and  Wakefield :  And  the  same  Bill, 
was read the first time. 

Bill 200. 

Name of Bill. 

Standing 
Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be printed. 

Handloom Weaving Bill 

B. 

[No.  59.] 

Tuesday, 18th May  1909. 

The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of  the  clock. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented  a  Bill  to  Musselburgh 
confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the Private confirmation 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, gj^ 
relating  to  Musselburgh  Gas :  And  the  same  Bill 201. 
was  read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  (under 
Section  9 of the Act)  to  be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  26th  day  of  this  instant 
May;  and to  be printed. 

Several  Public  Petitions were presented,  and  Public 

P R A T E R S. 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

Midland  Great  fT^HE  Midland  Great  Western  Railway  of 
Western 
Ireland  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and 
Railway of 
Ireland  Bill.

Pa88ea­

X 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

Harrogate  Gas  The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera-
tion the Harrogate  Gas  Bill,  as  amended in the 
HiU. 
Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time. 

Mr.  Buchanan presented,  by  His  Majesty's  East  India 
Command,— Copy  of  Measures  for  promoting  (Medical.) 
the growth of  an independent Medical Profession 
in India. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  —  Return  to  an  Mercantile 

Order,  dated  the 27th  day  of  April  last,  for  a Marine 

Vide'second 
Report. 

No.  63.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

24 th May. 

(Foreign-

Agreements.)

Return  relative to  Mercantile  Marine  (Foreign­

Agreements). 

No. 150.

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Trade Reports
(Annual
Series.)

Secretary  Sir  "Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic 
a nd  Consular Reports, Annual Series,  Nos. 4218 
and 4219. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Medway 
Conservancy. 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  was  laid  upon 
the  Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House:—Copy 
of  Statement  of  Receipts  and  Expenditure  of 
the  Conservators  of  the  River  Medway  for  the 
year ending  25th  March  1909. 

Taxes and 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this House 
a  Return showing  (1)  the rates of  Duties, Taxes, 
or  Imposts  collected  by  imperial  officers;  (2) 
the quantities  or  amounts  taxed ;  (3)  the  gross 
receipts derived from each Duty;  and  (4)  the net 
receipts  and  appropriations  thereof  in  the  year 
ending the 31st day of  March  1909 ;  and (1) the 
aggregate  gross  receipts  derived  from  all  such 
Duties,  Taxes,  or  Imposts  under  the  principal 
heads  of  revenue;  (2)  the  aggregate  net  re­
ceipts ;  (3)  the  charges  of  collection ;  and  (4) 
the  produce,  after  deducting  these  charges,  in 
each  of  the  ten years  ending  the  31st  day  of 
March  1909 ;  and notes to  show any  changes  in 
the Taxes,  Duties,  or  Imposts  consequent  upon 
the acceptance  of  the  Budget  proposals  of  1909 
(in continuation of Parliamentary  Paper,  No. 291 
of  Session  1908).—(Sir  Daniel  Goddard.) 

Standing 
Committee  A. 
Local 
Education 
Authorities 
(Medical 
Treatment) 
Bill. 

N o  .  151. 

Mr.  Stuart-Wortley  reported  from  Standing 
Committee  A,  to  whom  the  Local  Education 
Authorities  (Medical  Treatment)  Bill  was  re­
ferred ;  That  they  had  gone  through  the  Bill, 
and  directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment, to the  House. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

No. 151. 

Ordered,  That the Minutes  of  the Proceedings 

of  the Standing  Committee  be  printed. 

Standing 
Orders. 

Local 
Legislation 
Committee 
(Section  A.) 
Oldham 
Corporation 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Friday  the  18th  day  of  June 
next. 

Mr.  Ellis  reported from the  Select  Committee 
on  Standing  Orders  a  Resolution  ;  which  was 
read,  as followeth: 

That  in  the  case  of  the  Hull  and  Barnsley 
Railway  Bill,  Petition for  additional  provision, 
the  Standing  Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed 
with ;  that the parties be permitted  to insert the 
additional  provision  if  the  Committee  on  the 
Bill  think fit. 

The  said  Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time, was agreed to. 

Sir  Francis  Layland-Barratt  reported  from 
the Local  Legislation  Committee  (Section A ) ; 
That  in  the  case  of  the  Oldham  Corporation 
Bill  they had agreed  to  the following  Report:— 
That  with  respect  to  the  Instruction  of  the 
House  of  the 24th of  March  evidence  was  laid 
before the Committee that the provisions  of  the 
Bill  were  adequate  for  the  supply  of  water 
at reasonable rates to the agricultural  community 
within the area of  supply,  and  to any  person  or 
persons  from  whom  any  existing  or  natural 
supply  is  or  may be  withdrawn  owing  to  the 
works or  undertaking  authorised  by  the  Bill. 

VOL.  164. 

173 
Sir  Francis Layland-Barratt further reported 
from  the  Committee ;  That  they had examined 
the allegations contained  in the Preamble of  the 
Bill,  and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it 
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed  by  the  Committee, and found  the  same, 
as amended, to be  true;  and  had  gone  through 
the Bill and made Amendments  thereunto. 

Sir Francis L,ay land-Bar ratt further  reported  [Costs 
from the Committee ;  That  the Committee  were  awarded.] 
of opinion  that  Astbury  and  Pickford,  Limited, 
and others, J.  Chambley,  Sons,  and  Company, 
William  Buckley,  Limited,  Joseph  Shaw  and 
Company,  Limited,  and the  Saddleworth  Print­
ing Company, Limited, George Lees and Thomas 
Fawsitt, and the United Kingdom  Showmen and 
Van Dwellers'Protection Association, Petitioners 
against the  Bill, had been unreasonably subjected 
to  expense  in  opposing  the  Bill,  and  were  en­
titled  to  recover  from  the  promoters  the  costs 
and  expenses  which  they  had  incurred  in  con­
nection with such opposition. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Mr.  Stuart-Wortley reported  from  the  Chair-  Standing 
men's  Panel;  That  they  had  discharged  Mr. S™™^®? 
Stuart- Wortley from being Chairman of  Standing  Panel™*3" 8 
Committee  A ,  and  had  appointed  Sir  David 
Brynmor Jones to  act  as  Chairman  of  Standing 
Committee A  in his place. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Fenwick reported  from  the  Committee  of Selection 
Selection;  That  they  had  added  the  following (Standing 
Member  to  Standing  Committee  B  (in  respect Standing 
of  the  Rule  Committee  Bill):—Mr.  Herbert Committee B. 
Samuel. 

Committees.) 

Rule 
Committee 
Bill. 

Mr. Fenwick further  reported  from  the  Com-Standing 
mittee ;  That they had  discharged  the following Committee  C. 
Members from Standing Committee C (in  respect 
of  the  Trade  Boards  Bill):—Mr.  Walker, Mr. Trade  Boards 
Jeremiah Mac Veagh, and  Mr.  John  Murphy; Bill. 
and had appointed  in  substitution  (in respect  of 
the  said  Bill)  :  Mr.  T.  W.  Russell, Mr.  Hugh
Law, and Mr. Boland, 

Ordered, That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by tlie  Lords, 
one of their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  North  Metro- North 

politan  Electric  Power  Supply  Bill,  with 
Amendments;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the supply  Bill, 
concurrence  of  this House. 

Power 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled An  Wakefield 
Act  to confer further powers upon the  Corpora- ^?)IjP|0plt|0T1 n 
'  ^ 
tion  of  Wakefield  in  regard  to their water and  1 
electricity undertakings, and for other  purposes ; 
to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of 
this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Southend-

Act  to  increase  the  number  of  wards  of  the  on-Sea 
Borough of  Southend-on-Sea  and the number  of  Buffi*.-, 
members  of  the  Council,  and  to  confer  further 
powers upon  the mayor, aldermen, and burgesses 
of  that  borough  with  respect  to  the  disposal  of 
sewage,  and  for  other  purposes ;  to  which  the 
Lords desire  the concurrence  of this House. 

The  Wakefield  Corporation  Bill  [Lords]  was Wakefield 

read  the first time. 

„ ,, 

, 

„ 

Corporation 
,  Bill  [Lords.!

Ordered, That  the  Bdl  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of  Petitions  for Private  Bills, 

z 3 

 
 
 
 
174 	

18 th May. 

1909. 

[No. 59. 

Southend-
on-Sea
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.']

Infant  Life 
Protection 
Bill. 

The Southend-on-Sea Corporation Bill [Lords] 

w as  r e a (  j  the first time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners of  Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Ordered,  That the Infant  Life  Protection  Bill 

be read a second time upon Friday  next. 

Street  Traders
Bill.

Bill 202.

  Mr. Harmood-Banner  presented a Bill to make 
provision  for  the  licensing  and  registration  of 
  Street  Traders :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to 
be read a second  time upon Monday the  14th day 
of  June next;  and to be  printed. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Captain  Donelan, 

\ i4.q 


Yeas, 

IMr. Patrick  O'Brien •. J 


Tellers for thef Master of Elibank, 
\Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 

Noes, 

\ ggg 

J 

Main  Question  put.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 
„ 

m  ,, 

I Master of  Elibank : 

fSir  Alexander Acland- 1  


}300. 

Noes0"  ^ 

Hood,

H o o d<	 

[Viscount Valentiai 

1154. 

Prosecution 
for Frauds 
Bill. 

Bill  203. 

Sir Edward Carson, supported  by  Mr. Isaacs,
Mr.  Frederick  Edwin  Smith,  and  Mr.  Simon,
presented  a  Bill  to  confer  additional  powers 
on the Public  Prosecutor  in relation  to Frauds : 
And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be read a second 
time upon  Monday  next;  and to be  printed. 

Inspection  of 
Convents. 

A  Motion was made, and  the  Question  being 
proposed,  That  leave  be given to  bring  in a  Bill 
to  make provision for the adequate inspection  of 
monastic  and  conventual  Institutions 
in  the 
United  Kingdom—(Captain  Craig); 

Mr. Speaker 
puts the 
Question 
(pursuant to 
S.O. No.  11.) 

And the  Motion  being  opposed,  after  a  brief 
explanatory  statement  from  the  Member  who 
made  the  Motion  and  from  a  Member  who 
opposed  it,  Mr.  Speaker  put  the  Question, 
pursuant to  Standing  Order  No.  11. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Eight; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for theJ Captain Craig, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Moore : 

90. 

Tellers for the f Captain Donelan,' 

\  1<7(,

Noes, 

\Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien :  /  U0­

So it passed  in the  Negative. 

Business of 
the House 
(Ways and 
Means.) 

Ordered, That  the  Proceedings  of  the  Com­
mittee  of  Ways  and  Means,  if  under  discussion 
at  Eleven  of  the  clock  this  night,  be  not 
interrupted  under  the  Standing  Order  (Sit­
tings  of  the  House).—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into the  Committee  of  Ways and Means. 

(In the  Committee.) 

Stamps. 
Question  again  proposed,  That  the  stamp 
duties  charged  on  conveyances  or  transfers on 
sale  of  property  or  leases shall  be double  those 
now  chargeable.  —  (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 1, after  the  word 
"  That,"  to insert the  words "  except  in the case 
of  conveyances  or transfers on sale  of  any  lands 
purchased  under  the  provisions  of  any  of  the 
Irish  Land  Purchase  Acts." —  (Mr.  Vincent 
Kennedy.) 

Question proposed, That those  words be there 

inserted: 

Amendment proposed  to the proposed  Amend­
ment,  at  the  end  thereof  to  add  the  words 
"  where  the annual  value  does  not  exceed  fifty 
pounds per  annum."—(Mr.  Moored) 

Question proposed, That  those  words  be there 
added  to  the  proposed  Amendment:—Amend­
ment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  con­
veyances  or  transfers  operating  as  voluntary 
dispositions  inter  vivos  shall  be  charged  with 
stamp  duties,  calculated  on  the  value  of  the 
property  conveyed  or  transferred,  at  the  like 
rates  as  those  chargeable  on  conveyances  or 
transfers  on  sale. —  (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

297. 

\ . 
J 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
"[Master of  Elibank 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Henry Forster, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

\Lord  Balcarres: 
Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 
stamp  duties  charged  on  marketable  securities 
transferable  by  delivery  and  share  warrants 
or  stock  certificates  to  bearer  shall  be  double 
those now chargeable. —  (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  

Mr. Herbert Lewis : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the 
' ­
Noes, 
[Viscount  Valentia : 

-Alexander  Acland-

Hood, 

297. 

143, 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  in. 
lieu  of  the  Stamp  duties  now  chargeable  on. 
contract  notes  for  or  relating  to  the  sale  or 
purchase  of  any  stock  or  marketable  security 
there  shall  be  charged  the  following  stamp 
duties (that  is to say) :— 

Where  the  value  of  the stock  or  marketable  security— 

Is  £ 5  and  does  not  exceed  £100  -  Six  pence. 
Exceeds £100 and  does not  exceed 

£500 

One  shilling. 

Exceeds  £500 and  does not  exceed 
-
A nd  f or  each  additional  £1,000  or 

£1,000 

-

-

-

-  T wo  shillings. 

fraction   of  £1,000 

-

-

-  T wo  shillings.. 

—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

1 00~ 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Herbert 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

(Lord  Balcarres % 

" 
Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 
like  obligation  to  execute  a contract  note  shall 
have  effect,  and  the  like  stamp  duty  shall  be-
charged— 

LewisJ 
\ 
J 

(a)  in  the case of	  a contract  under which  an, 
option  is  given  to  purchase  or  sell  any 
stock  or  marketable  security  at  a  future 
time  at a certain  price;  and 

(b)  in  the case of  the sale  or  purchase  of  any 
stock  or  marketable  security  by  a  person 
who,  by  way  of  business,  deals  or  holds 
himself  out  as  dealing  as  a  principal  in 
stocks and marketable  securities, 

as  in  the  case  of  the  sale  or  purchase  of  any-
stock  or  marketable  security  by  a  broker  or 
agent.—(Mr.  Chancellor of the  Exchequer.) 

The  Committee proceeded  to  a Division­

 
 
 


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  9  EDW.  VII. 

18th—19th  May. 

175 

Wednesday,  19th May  1909 :  }

Tellers  for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 
[Sir  Alexander  A eland-

Tellers for the f 5 
' 
[Viscount  Valentiu: 

Hood, 

Noes, 

•289. 

131. 

J 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second time  


this day. 


The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking  Indian 

into consideration the Amendments  made  by  the  Councils  Bill 
Lords  to  the  Amendments  made by  this  House \-LorAs-\ 
to the  Indian  Councils Bill  [Lords] ; 

Resolutions  to be reported. 
To  report Progress, and ask leave to sit again. 

Ordered,  That the said  Amendments  be taken 

into consideration  this day. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the Committee  had come to several  Resolutions. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  this 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trade  Boards 
[Expenses.] 

Committee  on Trade  Boards  [Expenses]; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself into  the said  Committee. 

day. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,. That  the Committee  may  have  leave  to 
sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself into the  said  Committee. 

Ways and 
Means 
[17th  May] 
Report. 

The  Order of the day being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the  17th  day  of  this instant  May; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

Ways and 
Means 
[29th  April] 
Report. 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of  the 29th day of April  last; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

Ways and 
Means 
[5th  M.ay] 
Report. 

The  Order of  the day being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways and 
Means of the 5th day  of  this instant  May ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

Ways and 
Means 
[10th  May] 
Report, 

The Order of  the day being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways and 
Means of  the  10th day  of  this instant  May; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

Ways and 
Means 
[11th  May] 
Report. 

The Order  of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the  11th day of this instant  May ; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

Ways and 
Means 
[12tb  May] 
Report. 

The Order of  the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the  12th day of this instant  May ; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

House Letting
and Rating
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting  and 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this day. 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question proposed 
upon  the 21st day of April  last, That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be now read a second  time; 

The  Order of  the  day  being read,  for  taking  Board of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade  Bm­
amended in the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

' Revenue  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 

Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Authorities  Authorities 
Fxpfnses) 
(Legal Expenses)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time Bul­

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Post Office 
Second  Reading  of  the  Post  Office  (Lotteries  ^Lb°"e™es and 
and Obscene  Matter)  Bill; 
Matter)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning  

Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial ^Jjfgjj^ 

Tools Bill ; 


Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Hours of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Sur- {Ls urf^emen) 
facemen) Bill; 

Bill. 

a

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Metropolitan 
Second Reading of  the Metropolitan  Sewers and  y ^ B i l l. 
Drains  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill be read  a  second  time 

upon Friday  the 4th day of June  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Municipal 
Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Elections  Elections  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Blackgame 

Second Reading  of  the  Blackgame  Bill; 

Bm-

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Leaseholds 

till  this day. 

Marine 
Insurance 

PolSes^Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Marine  Insurance  (Gam­

  bling  Policies)"Bill; 

VOL.  164. 

Second  Reading of the Leaseholds  (Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 
upon  Wednesday  the  26th  day  of  this  instant 
May. 

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18th—19th May. 

[No.  60. 

Pnblic  Health  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
Act  (1875)
( 1 8 7 5  )  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

f w a t e r  m e n  t

Bights)  Bill.

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read a second time 

this day. 

Cheap  Trains 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of  the  Cheap Trains  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

this day. 

Bank  Holidays  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Bill. 

Second  Reading of the Bank  Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read a second time 

this day. 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Dogs'  Protection  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

this day. 

Irish  National 
Schools 
(Heating  and 
Cleansing) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating  and  Cleansing)  Bill; 

,

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  the 7th day of June  next. 

Small 
Holdings  Bill.  Second  Reading of  the  Small  Holdings  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of  the 
clock  on  Tuesday  evening,  Mr.  Speaker 
adjourned  the  House  without  Question 
put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order,  it 
being then fourteen minutes after Twelve 
of the  clock  on Wednesday morning, till 
this day. 

[No.  60.] 

Wednesday,  1 M  May  1909. 

The  House met at a quarter of  an  hour 
before Three  of  the clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

Provisional  MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from one of the Examiners  of  Petitions for 
Private Bills,  That  in  the  case of  the  following 
Bills, referred  on  the First  Reading thereof, the 
Standing  Orders  which  are  applicable  thereto 
have been  complied  with,  viz.:— 

Order  Bills 
(Standing 
Orders 
applicable 
thereto 
complied 
with.) 

Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 

(No. 3)  Bill. 

Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 

(No.  4)  Bill. 

1909. 
January  1909  (and  sealed  on  the  8th  Feb­
ruary  1909),  amending  Statutes  IV.  (5)  and 
X X I I I.  (1),  and  repealing  Statutes X X I.  (4)  

and  (5)  and  X X I I  .  of  the  Statutes  of  the 
College. 


Ordered, That  the  said Paper do lie  upon the 


Table;  and be printed.  


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented, pursuant  Polling  

to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—  Districts  

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the SncastoO 

County  of  Lancaster, redividing  the  Accrington  

and Widnes Parliamentary Divisions into Polling 

Districts. 


Ordered,  That the  said Paper  do  lie upon the  


Table. 


Mr.  Birrell presented,  pursuant  to  the  direc- Shop  Hours 

tions of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Order  Act>1904­
made  by  the  Urban  District  Council  of  Dun­
gannon  under  the  Shop  Hours  Act,  1904, and 
confirmed  by  the  Lord  Lieutenant  of  Ireland, 
fixing  the  hours of closing for certain  classes of 
Shops. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do lie upon  the  


Table. 


Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Trade  Reports 

His  Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic 
and  Consular Reports, Annual  Series,  Nos. 4221 Senes,-) 
to 4223  and 4225. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr. Burns  presented,  pursuant  to  the  direo- Local 
tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  the  Tilxation 
Annual  Local  Taxation  Returns  for  England 
and  Wales for  1906-7.  Part IV. 

W a l k) 

Ordered,  That the  said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Resolved, That  an  humble  Address  be  pre- ^a3t jn(jia 
sented to His  Majesty, that He  will be graciously  (income  and 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid  Expenditure.) 
before this  House  a Return  of  the  net  Income 
and  Expenditure  of  British India under  certain 
specified  heads 
for  the  eleven  years  from 
1897-8  to  1907-8  (in  continuation  of  Parlia­
mentary  Paper,  No.  174  of  Session  1908).— 
(Mr.  Hobhouse.) 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre- Army 

sented to His Majesty, that He will be graciously  Commissions 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before this  House  a Return  as to  the number  of  Ranks.) 
Commissions  granted during  each  of  the  years 
1885  to  1908,  inclusive  (in  continuation  of 
Parliamentary  Paper, No.  I ll  of  Session  1907). 
—(Mr.  John  Ward.) 

Ordered,  That the Bills  be read a second time 

James Avon  Clyde, Esquire,  K . C .,  Member for New  Member 

to-morrow. 

the Burgh  of  Edinburgh  (West  Division),  was sworn, 
sworn. 

South 
Lincolnshire 
Water  Bill 
[Lords.'] 

The House proceeded  to take  into  considera-
tion  the  South Lincolnshire Water  Bill  [Lords],
as amended in the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Several Public  Petitions  were presented, and 

read  ;  and ordered to  lie upon the  Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Second 
Report. 
Universities  of  Mr.  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
Oxford  and 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Cambridge 
Statutes  made  by  the  Governing  Body  of  New 
Act,  1877 
College,  Oxford,  under  the  Universities  of 
(Oxford.) 
No. 152.  Oxford  and  Cambridge  Act,  1877, on the  13th 

Sir Luke  White reported from  the  Committee  private  Bills 

on  Group  C  of  Private  Bills ;  That the parties (Group c.) 
opposing  the  Glamorgan  Water  Board  Bill had 
stated  that  the  evidence  of  Mr.  Arnold  G. 
Branson,  Secretary  and  Manager  of  the  Rhym­
ney and Aber Valleys  Gas and Water  Company, 
Caerphilly,  was  essential  to  their case ;  and it 
having  been  proved  that  Mr. A.  G.  Branson's 
attendance  could  not  be  procured  without  the 
intervention of the House, he had  been instructed 
to  move  that  the  said  Arnold  G.  Branson  do 
attend  the said  Committee  to-morrow, at half an 
hour after Eleven  of the  clock. 

 


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19 th May. 

177 

Ordered, That  Arnold  (jr. Branson  do  attend 
the  Committee  on  Group  C  of  Private  Bills 
to-morrow,  at  half  an  hour after Eleven  of  the 
clock. 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the 

tiou  Bill. 
Superannuation  Acts,  1834  to  1892:  And  the  " '  "  " 
same  was ordered to  be read a second  time upon  Bill 205. 
Monday  next;  and to  be  printed. 

Kilkenny, 
Castlecomer, 
and Athy 
Railway  Bill. 

Mr.  Stuart  Samuel reported  from  the  Com­
mittee  on the  Kilkenny,  Castlecomer,  and  Athy 
Railway  Bill;  That  in pursuance  of the  Resolu­
tion of  the  House  of the  2 5 th  day  of  March  last 
Clauses  19, 64, 65, 66, 67,  and  68,  and  so  much 
of  the  Preamble  as  relates  thereto,  had  been 
struck  out of the  Bill by  the  Committee. 

Mr.  Stuart  Samuel  further  reported  from 
the  Committee;  That  they  had  examined  the 
allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the 
Bill,  and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it 
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed  by  the  Committee, and  found  the  same, 
as amended,  to  be true ;  and  had  gone  through 
the Bill  and made  Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Railway  Bills 
(Group  3.) 

Sir  George Doughty  reported  from  the  Com­
mittee  on  Group  3 of  Railway  Bills ;  That, for 
the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Tuesday  next,  at  Eleven  of  the 
clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee B. 
Handloom 
Weaving  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee  B. 

Handloom 
Weaving  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee  C. 

Trade  Boards 
Bill. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee  of 

Selection  ;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol­
lowing  Member  from Standing  Committee  B  (in 
respect  of  the  Handloom  Weaving  Bill):— 
Mr.  Churchill; and had appointed in  substitution 
(in respect of  the said Bill)  :  Mr.  T.  W. Russell. 
Mr. Fenwick further  reported  from  the  Com­
mittee ;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing 
Committee  B  the  following  Fifteen  Members 
(in  respect  of  the  Handloom Weaving  Bill)  :— 
Mr.  Ponsonby,  Mr.  Carr-Gomm,  Mr.  Cleland,
Mr.  Hedges,  Mr.  Walter Rea,  Mr.  Chance, Mr. 
Maddison,  Mr. Parker,  Mr. John  Williams, Mr. 
MacVeagh,  Mr.  Boland,  Mr.  Hugh  Barrie,
Mr.  Mac Caw, Mr.  Gordon, and  Mr. Sloan. 

Mr. Fenwick  further  reported  from the  Com­
mittee ;  That  they  had discharged  the following 
Member from  Standing  Committee  C (in  respect 
of  the  Trade  Boards  Bill) :—Earl  Winterton ;
and had  appointed  in  substitution  (in  respect  of 
the said Bill):  Mr.  Goulding. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Message from
the  Lords.

  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
  Message  had  been  brought from  the  Lords by 

one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth: 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An 
Methwold  and
Act  for  the  more  effectual  drainage  and  im-
Feltwell
BilTfiords. 1  provement  of  certain  lands  in  the  Parishes  of 
Methwold  and  Feltwell, 
in  the  County  of 
Norfolk, and  for  other purposes;  to  which  the 
Lords desire the  concurrence  of this  House. 

Methwold and
Feltwell
\_Lords.]

  The  Methwold  and  Feltwell  Drainage  Bill 

[Lords]  was read the first time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for  Private  Bills. 

Ordered,  That  leave  be  given  to  bring  in  a  Vagrancy. 

Bill  to  repeal  the  Vagrancy  Act,  1824 :  And 
that  Mr.  MacNeill,  Mr.  Thomas  Frederick 
Richards,  Mr.  Hayden,  Mr.  John  Robertson, 
Mr.  Jeremiah  Mac Veagh,  Mr.  Kennedy,  Dr. 
Rutherford,  Mr.  Crooks,  Mr.  Mackarness, Mr. 
Muldoon, Mr.  George  Greenwood,  and  Mr. John 
0' Connor  do prepare and bring it in. 

Mr.  MacNeill  accordingly  presented a  Bill  to  Vagrancy  Bill, 
repeal  the  Vagrancy  Act,  1824 :  And  the same  Bill 206, 
was  read  the  first  time, and ordered  to  be read 
a second time  upon  Wednesday  next;  and to  be 
printed. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to  Indian 

take  into  consideration  the  Amendments made 9®1111®11"Bil1 
by  the  Lords  to  the  Amendments  made by  this 
House  to the  Indian  Councils  Bill  [Lords]. 

"J 

The  Lords'  Amendments  to  the  Amendments 
made  by  this House  (new Clause A),  in  Is. 3 and 
4, leave  out  ( " any  province  under a  Lieutenant 
Governor"),  and insert  ("the  Bengal  Division 
of  the  Presidency  of  Fort  William");  and 
insert  as  a  new  subsection,  at  the  end  of  sub­
section  (1)— 

( " ( 2  )  It  shall  be  lawful  for  the  Governor 
General  in  Council,  with the  like  approval, by a 
like  proclamation  to  create  a  council  in  any 
other province  under a Lieutenant  Governor  for 
the purpose of  assisting the Lieutenant  Governor 
in  the executive  government  of  the  province: 
Provided  that  before  any such  proclamation  is 
made  a  draft  thereof  shall  be  laid  before  each 
House of Parliament  for not less than sixty days 
during  the  Session  of  Parliament, and if, before 
the  expiration  of  that  time,  an  Address  is  pre­
sented  to  His  Majesty  by  either.  House  of 
Parliament  against the draft or any part  thereof 
no  further  proceedings  shall  be  taken  thereon, 
without  prejudice  to  the  making  of  any  new 
draft "),  being  read a second  time; 

And  a  Motion  being made, and the  Question 
being  put,  That  this  House  doth  agree  with 
the  Lords  in  the  said  Amendments  —  (Mr. 
Hobhouse)', 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas  to the  Right; 

The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Master of Elibank : 

Tellers for  the J Dr. Rutherford, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  O'Grady. 

I  245. 

1104. 

So  it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint them that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the Amendments  made  by their 
Lordships. 

The House, according to Order, resolved itself  Ways and 

into the Committee of Ways  and  Means. 

Means. 

Rights  of  Way
(Scotland)
(No.  2)  Bill. 

Bill  2 0 4. 

  Mr.  Munro  Ferguson,  supported  by  Sir 

Thomas  Glen- Coats,  Sir John Dewar,  Mr.  Watt, 
Mr. Lamont, and  Captain  Murray,  presented  a 
Bill  to amend the  Local  Government  (Scotland) 
Act,  1894, with regard to Rights  of  Way  :  And 
the same was ordered  to  be  read  a second  time 
upon  Tuesday  next;  and to be  printed. 

VOL.  164. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Death  Duties. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
in  the  case  of  persons  dying  on  or  after  the 
thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen  hundred  and 
nine  there  shall  be  substituted  for the rates of 

A  A 

 
 
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estate duty  set out  in  the First  Schedule  to the 
Finance Act,  1907, the following  rates:— 

27th April 

Where  the principal  value of  the  Estate 

Estate  Duty 
shall  be  payable 
at  the rate  per 
cent,  of 

Exceeds 

£ 
100 and does not 
­  
exceed 

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» 
ii 
ii 
ii 
ii 
it 
11 
11 
ii 
D 

500 
1,000 
5,000 
10,000
20,000

40,000 

70,000 
100,000
150,000
200,000 
400,000 

600,000 

800,000 

1,000,000 

„ 
„ 
„ 
„ 
„ 

„ 

„ 
„ 
„ 
„ 
„ 

„ 

„ 

1, 
„ 
„ 
„

„

„ 

„ 

„ 

„ 

„ 

„ 

& 

500 

1,000 
5,000 
10,000 
20,000 

40,000 

70,000 

100,000 

150,000 
200,000 
400,000 
600,000 

800,000 

1,000,000 

1 
2 

3 
4 
5 

6 

7 

8 
9 
10 
11 
12 

13 

14 

15 

—(Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer.) 

Whereupon  Motion  made, and Question, That 
the  Chairman  do report  Progress, and  ask leave 
to  sit  again — ( M r.  James Mason),—put,  and 
agreed  to. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  acquainted the 
House that  the Committee  had  made  Progress 
in  the  matter  to  them  referred;  and  that  he 
was  directed  to move, That the  Committee may 
have leave  to sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

a g a i  n  resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

1909. 

[No.  44. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trade  Boards 
[Expenses.] 

Committee  on  Trade  Boards [Expenses] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order of the day  being  read, for  taking  Board  of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade  Bil1­
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs  and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

.Revenue  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

A  Motion  was  made,  and  the  Question  was Poor  Laws 
proposed,  That, in  the  opinion  of  this House, it  Commission 
is  urgently  necessary  to  take  steps  for  the men?')*'  °S~ 
decasualisation  of  casual  labour,  and  for  the 
absorption  of  the surplus labour  thereby  thrown 
out  of  employment;  also  to  regularise  the 
demand  for  labour,  to  develop  trade  union 
insurance  against  the  risks  of  unemployment, 
and to  establish  training  colonies  and  detention 
colonies  — (Mr.  Pickersgill) : — And  the  said 
Motion  was,  with  leave  of  the  House,  with­
drawn. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Mercantile 
Second  Reading  of  the  Mercantile  Corporations  Corporations 
and  Companies (Municipal  Franchise) Bill; 

(MuSdpri™88 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time franchise) 

upon Wednesday  the 9th day  of June  next. 

Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  cierka  of  the 

Second Reading  of  the  Clerks of the Peace  and  Peace and 
County  Councils Bill; 

c S l s B i l l. 

_ 

Electric 
Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment)  Bill  [.Lords]  ; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Justices  of  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Justices  of  the  Peace  Peace  Bl!]­
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

upon Wednesday  next. 

Committee  of  Supply  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

Ways  and 
Means 
[18th  May] 
Report. 

The  Order  of  the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of  the  18th day of this instant May ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cruelty  to 
Second  Reading  of  the  Cruelty  to  Animals Aniraa's Rill-
B i ll  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be  read  a second time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Asylum 

morrow. 

House  Letting 
and  Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting  and 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

The  Order of the  day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on  the Question  proposed 
upon the 21st  day  of  April  last, That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be now read  a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  to-morrow. 

Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of  the Marine  Insurance  (Gam­
bling Policies)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Second  Reading of  the  Asylum  Officers'  Super-  Officers'Super­
annuation  (Scotland)  Bill; 

( S l a n d  ) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Tuesday  next. 

The Order of the day being read, for resiuning  Dogs 

the adjourned Debate  on the  Question  proposed  (Exemption) 
upon the 28th  day  of  April  last, That the  Dogs 
(Exemption)  Bill  be now read a second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till  Thursday  the  10th day  of  June  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours  of 
Second Reading  of the  Hours  of  Labour  (Bake- Labour' 
houses)  Bill; 

^Bakehouses) 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Wednesday  the 9th day  of June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Road  Traffic 

Second  Reading  of  the Road  Traffic Bill; 

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Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented,  and  Public 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  the  16th day  of  June  next. 

Sea Fisheries
H S
Bili.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

S e c o nd   Reading  of  the  Sea  Fisheries  Regula­
tion  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial 
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be read a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

flours  of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen)

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for-  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Hours of  Labour  (Sur­

f a c e m e n) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Public  Health
Act  (1875)
Amendment
(Water 
Rights) Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
( 1 8 7 5  )  Amendment (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Cheap  Trains
Bill.

The"  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading of  the Cheap Trains  Bill; 

to-morrow. 

Bank
Holidays  Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

  Second  Reading  of  the Bank  Holidays  Bill; 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bill. 

Bastardy 
Orders, 

Bastardy  Bill.

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of the Dogs'  Protection  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered, That  a  Select  Committee  be  ap­
pointed  to  inquire  and  report  as  to  the  Law 
relating  to  the  making  and  enforcement  of 
Orders under the Acts relating to Bastardy, and 
to  report whether  any, and  if  so, what  amend­
ments are required  in  the same. 

The  Committee was accordingly  nominated  of 
Mr.  Charles Corbett, Mr.  Arnold  Herbert,  Mr. 
King,  Mr.  Kennedy,  and Mr.  Whitbread. 

Ordered,  That  the  Committee  hare  power to 

send for persons, papers, and  records. 

Ordered, That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

The  Order made upon the 26th day  of  March 
last, That the  Bastardy  Bill  be committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee, was read, and  discharged. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed to  the 
Select  Committee  on  Bastardy  Orders.^(Mr. 
Joseph Pease ) 

And  then  the  House, having  continued  to 
sit  till  three  minutes  after  Eleven  of the 
clock, adjourned till  to-morrow. 

[No.  61.] 

Thursday,  2(M May  1909. 

The House met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three of the  clock. 

Military  Manoeuvres  Act,  1897,  had  been  pre­
sented  to  His  Majesty ;  and  that  His  Majesty 
had  been  pleased  to  receive  the  same  very 
graciously, and to give the following  Answer : 

I  have received  your  Address  praying  that  I 
will  make  the  Order  in  Council  under  the 
Military  Manoeuvres Act,  1897, a draft of  which 
was  presented  to  your  House  on  the  16th 
February  last. 

I  will comply  with your  advice. 

The  House  proceeded  to take  into  considera- Conway  Gas 

tion  the Amendments  made by  the Lords  to the Bil1­
Conway Gas Bill;  and the same were twice read, 
and agreed to. 

Ordered,  That  the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders  Local 

(No.  3)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a Government 
second time, and committed. 

^  j 

j 

' 

Provisional 
orders  (No.   3) 
Bill. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders  Local 

(No.  4)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a Government 
Provisional 
^ 
,  ° 
second time, and committed. 
Orders  (No.  4) 

. ,  , 

' 

Bill. 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

videSecond 
Report. 
Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant  Police 

to the directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament, (Counties and 
—Copy  of  Reports  of  the  Inspectors  of  Con-  (England  and 
stabulary,  for  the  year  ending  29th  September  Wales.) 
1908, made to His Majesty's Principal Secretary  No. 154. 
of  State  under  the  provisions  of  the  Police 
(Counties and Boroughs) Act,  1856. 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the Shop  Hours 

Borough  of  East  Ham  under  the  Shop  Hours  Aot-1904, 
Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by  the  Secretary  of 
State  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
hours of  closing for  certain  classes of Shops. 

Ordered,  That  the said Papers  do lie upon the  a 

Table ;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  Police 
(Counties  and  Boroughs,  England  and  Wales) 
be printed. 

Mr.  Birrell presented, — Return to  an Order,  Drunkenness 

dated  the  3rd  day  of  this  instant  May,  for  a  (Ireland.) 
Return relative to  Drunkenness  (Ireland). 

No. 155. 

Ordered,  That the said Return do lie upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Buchanan presented,  pursuant  to  the  East  India 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  (Progress  and 
Statement  exhibiting  the  Moral  and  Material 
Progress  and  Condition  of  India  during  the 
year  1907-8.  Forty-fourth  Number. 

' 

' 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to  Unemployed 
the directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  w°Ikmen  Aot' 
of Order made by  the  Local  Government  Board 
for  Scotland, amending  Article  X I V.  (3)   of the 
Regulations  issued  by them  on  14th  November 
1905  under  the  Unemployed  Workmen  Act. 
1905. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Military
Manoeuvres
fo^Hn
Council.)

P R A T E R S. 

r p H  E  Comptroller  of  the  Household  reported 
J[  ^o  the  House  that  their  Address  of  the 
17th  day  of  this  instant  May,  relative  to  the 

V O L.  1 6 4. 

Sir  Francis  Layland-Barratt  reported  front  Local 
the  Local  Legislation  Committee  (Section A )  ;  Legislation 
That  in  the case of  the Watford  Urban  District  Committee 

A  A  2 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
180 

27th  April 

1909. 

[No. 44. 

(Section  A.)  Council  Bill  they  bad examined  the  allegations 

i n  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and 
Urten  District c o n t a i 1 n ed  
Council  Bill,  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent 
with the provisions of the Bill  as passed  by  the 
Committee, and found  the same, as  amended,  to 
be  true;  and  had  gone  through  the  Bill  and 
made  Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

through  the  Bill  and  made Amendments  there­
unto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported  Clevedon 
the  Clevedon  Water  Bill  [Lords],  with  Amend- W a t ei   R m 
^  ^ 
ments.

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Central 
KaHway Bill 

Sir  Joseph  Compton-Rickett reported  the  Cen-

Table ;  and be printed. 

London  Railway  Bill, with  Amendments. 
Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and  be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported  Holywood  

the  Holywood  Tramways  Bill,  with  Amend-  Tramways  

ments. 

BiU-' 

The  Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
Local 
p0^1?™®?* 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Local  Government 
Ordera'cNo. l) Provisional  Orders  (No.  1)  Bill;  That  they 
had  considered  the  Orders  therein  contained; 
Bii).
OrdereSi0nal
t h  e  s a i  d  0 r d e r  s  ought  to  be  confirmed; 
t h a  t 
a n  d  that  they had  directed  him  to  report  the 
confirmed.]
Bill, without Amendment,  to the  House. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read the third time 

to-morrow. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
Local
from  the  Committee  on  the  Local  Government 
Government
OrdI™(No.2)  Provisional  Orders  (No.  2)  Bill;  That  they 
had  considered  the  Orders  therein  contained; 
Bill. 
  O r d e r  s  ought  to  be  confirmed; 
t h at 
OrdersSi0nal
and  that  they  had  directed  him  to  report  the 
confirmed.] 
Bill, without Amendment, to the House. 

t he  8 a id

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be read  the third time 

to-morrow. 

Midland 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 
from the Committee on the Midland Railway Bill 
[Lords]  ;  That  they  had  examined  the  allega­
tions  contained  in the  Preamble  of  the Bill, and 
amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent 
with the provisions  of  the Bill  as  passed  by  the 
Committee, and  found  the same,  as  amended, to 
be  true;  and  had  gone  through  the  Bill  and 
made Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
Sligo and 
Arigna 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Sligo  and  Arigna 
Railway  Bill.  Railway  Bill;  That  with respect  to the  Resolu­
tion of  the House  of  the 25th  March  the  Com­
mittee  found  the  promoters  had  omitted  from 
the  Bill  as  laid  before  the  Committee  Clauses 
40 and 41, to which the said Resolution  relates. 
The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  further 
reported  from  the  Committee;  That  they had 
examined  the  allegations  contained  in  the  Pre­
amble  of  the  Bill,  and  amended  the  same  so 
as  to  make  it  consistent  with  the  provisions 
of  the  Bill  as  passed  by  the  Committee,  and 
found  the  same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and 
had gone through the Bill and made Amendments 
thereunto. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
Dudley 
from the  Committee  on the  Dudley  Corporation 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords,]  Bill  [Lords] ;  That  they  had  examined  the 
allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the 
Bill, and verbally  amended the  same, and found 
the  same, as amended,  to be true ;  and had gone 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table;  and be printed.  


The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported  Grantham  

from  the  Committee  on  the  Grantham  Water )Vater Bil1 

Bill  [Lords]  i  That  they  had  examined  the  [ L o r d s' ]  

allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  

Bill,  and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it  

consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as  

passed  by  the  Committee,  and  found  the same,  

as amen ded, to  be  true;  and  had  gone  through  

the Bill  and made Amendments  thereunto.  


Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Osmond  Williams reported  from the  Com- Hull and 

mittee on  the  Hull  and  Barnsley Railway  Bill;  Barnsley 
That  in  pursuance  of  the  Resolution  of  the R a i l w ay  BiU-
House  of  the  18th day  of  this  instant  May  the 
Committee  had inserted in the  Bill the additional 
provision referred to  in  the said  Resolution. 

Mr.  Osmond Williams  further  reported  from 
the  Committee  ;  That  they  had  examined  the 
allegations  contained in the Preamble  of the Bill, 
and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it  con­
sistent with the  provisions  of  the Bill  as passed 
by  the  Committee,  and  found  the  Bame,  as 
amended,  to  be  true;  and  had  gone  through 
the  Bill and made Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That  the  Education  (England  and  Education 
Wales) Bill  be read a second time upon Tuesday  ^ f i a n  d  and 
the  15th day  of  June  next. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to-Trawlers' 
morrow,  the  Trawlers'  Certificates  Suspension  Certificates 
Bill  was read, and discharged. 
Suspension 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Friday  the  11th day  of  June  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Business of 

Means have precedence  this day  of  the Businessthe  House 
of  Supply.—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Proceedings  of  the  Com- Business of 
mittee of  Ways  and  Means, if  under  considera-  ®™nd 
tion  at  Eleven  of  the clock  this  night,  be  not  Means.) 
interrupted  under the  Standing  Order  (Sittings 
of the House).—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

A  Motion was made, and  the  Question  being  Labour 
proposed, That leave be given  to  bring  in a Bill  Exchanges, 
to  provide  for  the  establishment  of  Labour 
Exchanges,  and  for  other  purposes  incidental 
thereto—( Mr.  Churchill) ; 

And  the  Motion  being  opposed, after a brief  Mr. Speaker 

explanatory  statement  from  the  Member  who 
made  the  Motion  and  from  a  Member  who  (pursuant to 
opposed  it,  Mr.  Speaker  put  the  Question, s.o. No. n.) 
pursuant to  Standing  Ol der No.  11. 
And  the  Question  was agreed  to. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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11th
Ordered, That  Mr.  Churchill,  Mr.  Buxton,
Mr.  Tennant, and  Mr.  Masterman do  prepare 
and bring  in the  Bill. 

May. 
181 
Motion  made, and  Question  put, That  after 
the  thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen  hundred 
and nine— 

Labour 
Exchanges 
Bill. 

Mr.  Churchill accordingly  presented  a  Bill
to  provide  for  the  establishment  of  Labour 
Bill  2 0 7.  	 Exchanges,  and  for  other  purposes  incidental 
thereto :  And  the  same was  read  the first time, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  next;  and to  be printed. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The House, according to  Order, resolved itself

into the  Committee of Ways and Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Death  Duties. 

Question  again  proposed,  That  in  the case  of 
persons  dying  on  or  after  the thirtieth  day  of 
April  nineteen  hundred  and nine  there shall be 
substituted  for  the rates of  estate  duty  set  out 
in the First  Schedule  to  the  Finance  Act,  1907,
the following  rates:— 

Where  the principal  value  of  the  Estate 

Estate  Duty • 
shall be  payable
at  the rate  per 
cent,  of 

Exceeds 

£ 	
100 and does  not 
exceed 

500 

1,000 
5,000 
10,000 
20,000 

40,000 

70,000 

100,000 

„  200,000 

150,000 

400,000 
600,000 

800,000 

1,000,000 	

» 

» 

11 

n 

11 

11 

11 
11 
11 

11 

11 

1) 

11 

n 

11 

11 
11 

11 
11 
11 

11 
11 
11 
11 

ft 

11 

11 

11 
11 

11 
11 
11 

11 
11 
11 
11 

11 

£ 

500 
1,000 

5,000 
10,000 
20,000 
40,000 

70,000 
100,000 

150,000 

200,000 
400,000 
600,000 
800,000 
1,000,000 

1 

2 

3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
.  8 
9 

10 

n 
12 
13 

14 

15 

-(Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer.)
Question  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

t Master of Elibank : 
.i  I  Sir Alexander Acland-

Yeas, 
Tin 
r 
Tellers for the I 
1 
[ Viscount  Valentia  : 

TSTopb	 
IN o e 8' 

v 
. 
H o o d  > 

1.  Any  legacy or succession  duty now payable 
at  the  rate  of  three  per  cent,  shall  be 
payable  at  the  rate of  five  per  cent.,  and 
any legacy  or  succession  duty now payable 
at  the rate of  five  per cent, or six  per  cent,
shall  be  payable  at  the  rate  of  ten  per 
cent.; 

2.	  Legacy  and  succession  duty  payable  at 
the  rate  of  one  per  cent,  under  the 
Stamp Act,  1815, and the  Succession  Duty
Act,  1853,  respectively,  or  any  other  Act,
shall  be  charged,  notwithstanding  any 
repeal  effected by  or anything  contained  in 
any  other  Act,  and  the  duty  shall  be 
charged  in  the  case  of  husbauds  or  wives 
as  in  the  case  of 
lineal  ancestors  or 
descendants; 

the  Resolution  to  take  effect  in  the  case  of 
legacy  duty  only  where  the  testator  by  whose 
will  the  legacy  is  given,  or  the  intestate  on 
whose death  the legacy  duty  is  payable, dies on 
or  after  the  thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen 
hundred and nine, and in  the case of  a succession 
arising  through  devolution  by  law  only where 
the succession  arises on  or  after that  date, and 
in  the  case  of  a  succession  arising  under  a 
disposition  only if  the first succession  under the 
disposition  arises  on  or  after  that  date.—(Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  thej Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
1 Master of ElibankJ 
(Sir  Alexander  Acland-

Yeas, 
n 

., 

m  ii 
Tellers for the 
Noes, 

H o o d  > 

[Viscount  Valentia: 

\  „nn 
dUU< 

127.

Motion  made, and  Question  put,  That  in  the 
case of  persons  dying  on or  after  the  thirtieth 
day  of  April  nineteen  hundred  and  nine  five 
years shall  be substituted  for  twelve  months  asp
the  period  preceding  the death of  the deceased 
before  which a disposition purporting to  operate 
as an immediate  gift inter vivos, or  a surrender, 
assurance,  divesting,  or  disposition,  must  have 
been made or effected in order that the property
taken under  the  disposition, or  affected  by  the 
surrender,  assurance,  divesting,  or  disposition, 
may not  be included  as  property  passing  on  the 
death of  the deceased.—(Mr.  Chancellor of  the 
Exchequer.) 

» 

298.

122.

Motion  made, and  Question  put, That  in the 
case  of  persons  dying  on or after  the  thirtieth 
day  of April  nineteen  hundred  and nine  settle­
ment  estate  duty  shall  be  charged  at  a  rate 
double that  at which  it  is  now  chargeable, and 
that for  the purpose of  any claim to relief  from 
estate duty  under  subsection  (2) of  section  five 
or  subsection (1)  of  section  twenty-one  of  the 
Finance Act,  1894, in the case of  persons dying 
on or after  the thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen 
hundred  and  nine,  payment  of  or  liability  to 
duty  (whether  the  payment  is  made  or  the 
liability  attached  before, on, or after  that  date)
in respect  of  settled  property  on  the death of  a 
person  (other  than  the settlor)  who  was  at  the 
time  of  his death, or had been  at any time during
the continuance  of  the settlement, competent  to 
dispose  of  the  settled  property  shall  not  be 
deemed  to be  a payment  of  or liability  to  duty
in respect  of  settled  property.—(Mr.  Chancellor 
of  the  Exchequer.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
.  (Master of  Elibank,: 
Tellers for the) Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 
VOL.  164. 

(Lord  Balcarres: 

\ qnn 
J 

123.

9Q1

J 
"1 
/ 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Master of  Elibank : 
Tellers for the J Mr. Henry Forster, 

Noes, 

(Lord  Balcarres: 
Motion  made, and  Question  put, That  in  the 
case of  persons dying  on  or  after  the  thirtieth 
day  of  April  nineteen hundred  and nine— 

(1)	  110 reduction  shall  be made in  the estimate 
of  the  principal  value  of  any  property
under subsection  (5)  of section  seven  of the 
Finance  Act,  1894,  on  account  of  the 
estimate  being  made  on  the  assumption 
that  the  whole  of  the  property  is  to  be 
placed  on  the market  at  one  and  the same 
time; 

(2)  the	  limitation  on  the  estimate  of  the 
principal  value  of  agricultural  property
under  the same subsection  shall  cease. 

—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for theJ" Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
(Master of  Elibank ; 

"l  0Q0
/ 
Tellers for the) Lord  Edmund  Talbot,  1 
I Marquess of Hamilton  : J 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

A  A  3 

	
20th May. 	

1909. 

[No. 61. 

Motor  Cars. 

"  Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
in  lieu  of  any Excise  duties  now  payable  for 
motor  cars  there  shall  be  charged,  both  in 
Great  Britain  and  Ireland,  in  each  year,  for 
every  motor bicycle  or motor  tricycle  a duty  of 
one pound, and for every other motor car a duty 
at the following  rates, calculated  in  accordance 
with horse-power  :— 

Horse-power. 	

Duty. 

Under  6J 

-	

6£, but under  12 

12 
16 
26 
33 
40 

„ 

60 and over 

16 
26 
33 
40 
60 

Two guineas. 
Three guineas. 
Four  guineas. 
Six guineas. 
Eight  guineas. 
Ten  guineas. 
Twenty  guineas. 
Forty  guineas. 

That the  duty under this Resolution  shall not 
extend  to  motor  cars  which  are  charged  with 
duties  as hackney  carriages under  the  Customs 
and Inland  Revenue  Act,  1888, or  to motor cars 
which are not  carriages  within  the  meaning  of 
that Act,  and  that  the unit of  horse-power  for 
the  purpose of  the duty  shall  be  calculated  in 
accordance with  regulations  made  by  the  Trea­
sury  for  the  purpose.—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

And  it  being a quarter of  an hour after Eight 
of  the clock, and  there  being Private  Business 
set down by  direction  of  the  Chairman  of  Ways 
and Means under Standing  Order  No. 8, further 
proceeding  was postponed without  Question put. 

London and 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
BailwaWra5rn S e c o n  d  Reading  of  the  London  and  South 
[lords.] 

Western  Railway  Bill  [Lords]; 

Ordered, That  the Bill be  read  a second time 
upon  Thursday  the 3rd  day  of  June  next,  at  a 
quarter of  an hour after Eight of the  clock. 

Gas Light 
GomCane  BiU  T h i rd  R e a ( ! i n g   o f 

'  Company  Bill  ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

t he  G as   Light  and  Coke 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  the third time 

upon Thursday  the  3rd  day of  June  next,  at  a 
quarter of  an hour after Eight  of  the clock. 

Great  Western  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Railway 
Second  Reading of  the Great  Western  Railway 
(Steam
(Steam  Vessels)  Bill  [Lorrfs]  ; 
Vessels) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 
upon Thursday  the  3rd  day  of  June  next,  at  a 
quarter  of  an hour after Eight  of the clock. 

Ways and 
Means. 	

Postponed  proceeding  on  Question,  That  in 
lieu of any  Excise  duties  now payable for motor 
cars  there  shall  be  charged,  both  in  Great 
Britain  and  Ireland,  in  each  year,  for  every 
motor  bicycle  or  motor  tricycle  a  duty  of  one 
pound,  and for  every  Other  motor  car a duty  at 
the  following  rates,  calculated  in  accordance 
with horse-power  :— 

Horse-power. 	

Duty. 

Under 6J 	
6i,  but under  12 
16 
26 
33 
40 	
60 

12 
16 
26 
33 
40 	
60 and over • 

.;; 

Two guineas. 
Three guineas. 
Four  guineas. 
Six guineas. 
Bight  guineas. 
Ten guineas. 
Twenty  guineas. 
Forty  guineas. 

That the duty under  this  Resolution  shall not 
extend  to  motor  cars  which  are  charged  with 
duties  as  hackney  carriages  under  the  Customs 
and Inland  Revenue  Act,  1888, or to  motor cars 
which are  not  carriages  within  the  meaning  of 
that Act,  and  that  the  unit  of  horse-power  for 
the  purpose  of  the  duty  shall  be  calculated  in 
accordance  with  regulations  made by  the  Trea­
sury for the purpose, resumed. 
Question  again  proposed : 
Question put, and agreed  to. 

Amendment of  Law. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  it  is 
expedient  to amend the  Law relating to National 
Debt, Customs, and  Inland  Revenue  (including 
Excise).—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert Lewis-. 

\
203. 
j 

Tellers for the f Sir Frederick Banbury,  \  
50. 

\Mr.  Leverton Harris: 

j 

Noes, 

Resolutions to be  reported.  


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the Committee had come to  several  Resolutions. 
Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Meaus  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may have  leave  to 
sit  again. 

Resolved,  That this House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving  Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of ^e7t0hrtApril] 
the  27 th day  of  April  last;

epor

  ' 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Wednesday  next. 

The  Order of  the  day being  read, for  taking  Supply 

into  consideration  the  Sixth  of  the Resolutions  [22nd  March] 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day  of  March  last,  were (Deferred 
reported from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the  Resolution.) 
22nd day  of March  last; 

Ordered, That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 
into further consideration upon Wednesday  next. 

The  Order of  the day being read, for receiving  Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means 
Means  of  the 17th day  of  this instant May ; 

^ o r t ^  1 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon  


Monday  next.  


The  Order of the day being read, for receiving  Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and Means 
Means of  the 29th  day  of April  last; 

[29th  April] 
Report. 


Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon  


Monday  next.  


The Order of the day being read, for receiving  Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and Means 
Means of the 5th day of  this instant  May; 
Report 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

The Order of  the day being read, for receiving  Ways and 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and J1®"1118,, 
Means of  the  10th day  of this instant  May  ; 

Report.

1 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 





 
 
No.  54.]  9  E D W.   VII. 

1 1 t h — 12  th

Ways and 
Means 
[11th  May]  

Report. 

The Order of  the day being read, for receiving 
the  Eeport  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the  11th day  of  this instant  May ; 


Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

Ways and 
Means 
[12th  May] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of  the  12th day of this instant  May ; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

Electric 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Lighting Acts  Second  Reading  of  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
S ^ f S * !  ?  (Amendment)  Bill  [Lords]-, 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply; 

May. 

183 
Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Sir  R.  Whittington's  Charity  Bill  was, Sir  R. 

according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and  Whittington's 
committed  to a Standing  Committee. 
Chanty  Eill. 

The  Bridgend  (Hope  English  Baptist  Chapel, Bridgend 
&c.)  Charity  Bill  was, according  to  Order, read  ( B ^ t E n g l i sh 
a  second  time,  and  committed  to  a  Standing chapel, &c.) 
Committee. 
Charity  Bill. 

John  Marshall' s  Charity  Bill  was,  according  John 
to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and  committed  Marshall's 
to a Standing  Committee. 

Charity   m h 

The  Lichfield  and  Longdon  Congregational  Lichfield and 

Chapels  and  Trust  Property  Charity  Bill  was, Longdon 
according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and  chSand™1 
committed  to a Standing  Committee. 
Trust  Property 
Charity  Bill. 

Resolved, That this  House will, upon  Monday 

The  Dewsbury  and  Batley  Congregational  Dewsbury 

next, resolve  itself into the said  Committee. 

Ways and 
Means 
[18th  May] 
Report. 

The Order of  the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of  the  18th day of this instant May ; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

House Letting  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting  and 
and Rating 
(Scotland) 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill; 
Bill 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Cinemato-
graph Bill. 

The Order of  the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon the  21st day  of  April  last, That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be now read a second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

Marine 
Insurance 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the  Marine Insurance  (Gam-

PouSeeyWll.  bling  Policies)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Trade Boards 
[Expenses.] 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on  Trade  Boards  [Expenses]. 

Chapel  Charities  Bill  was,  according  to Order, 
read  a second  time, and committed to a Standing  chapel 
Committee. 

Charities BiU, 

^ I t L a  l 

The  Wortley  Congregational  Chapel  Charity  Wortley 

Bill  was, according  to  Order, read a second  time, Congregational 
and committed  to a Standing  Committee. 

Charity  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the SmaU 

Second  Reading  of the  Small  Holdings  Bill; 

Holdings Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial  Industrial 
To°lsBU1­
Tools Bill;  

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Monday  the 7th day  of  June  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Sur- Labour 
facemen)  Bill; 

^Surfacemen) 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be  read a  second time 

upon Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public  Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  (1875)  (>«75) 
Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

f w a T e  ^ 
Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time  Sights)  Bill, 

(In  the  Committee.) 

to-morrow. 

Resolved,  That it is expedient  to  authorise  the 
payment, out of moneys provided  by  Parliament, 
of  remuneration  and  expenses  incurred  under 
any  Act  of  the  present  Session  to  provide  for 
the  establishment  of  Trade  Boards  for  certain 
Trades.—(Mr. Churchill.) 

Resolution  to be  reported. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the cheap  Trains 

Second  Reading of the  Cheap  Trains  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,' for  the  Bank Holidays 

Second  Reading  of  the Bank  Holidays  Bill; 

BlU-

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  the 
Deputy Chairman  reported, That the  Committee 
had come to a Resolution. 

Ordered, That the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

Board of 
Trade BiU. 

The  Order of  the day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as 
amended  in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon Monday  next. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue Bill.  Ci 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Uul;  

VOL.  164.  


° 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dogs' 
Second Reading  of the Dogs'  Protection  Bill;  Protection 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

And  it  being  after half-past Eleven  of  the  

clock,  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned the House  

without  Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  

Standing Order, it being then two minutes 

before;  Twelve  of  the  clock,  till  to­
morrow. 


A  A  4 

184 	

21st Mav. 

1909. 

[No. 62. 

[No.  62.] 

Friday,  21 st May  1909. 
The  House met  at Twelve  of  the  clock. 

P RA 

t e e s. 

Private Bills 	 M  R  .  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
[Lords] 
from one of the Examiners of Petitions for 
(Standing 
Private Bills,  That in the case  of  the  following 
Orders not 	
previously 	
Bills,  originating  in  the Lords, and referred  on 
inquired  into 
the First  Reading  thereof, the  Standing  Orders 
complied 	
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are 
with.) 	
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
viz.:— 

hath  agreed to the same, with Amendments ;  to 
which this House  doth desire the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  House proceeded  to take  into  considera-  Llanelly 
tion  the Llanelly  Water Bill,  as amended in the  Water Bin. 
Committee. 

And  Amendments  were made to  the  Bill.  

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read the third time.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 

Third  Reading  of  the  Local  Government  Pro-  Government 
n?/'"' 0,^1 
visional  Orders  (No.  1) Bill; 
, 
Orders  (No.  1) 
' 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read the third  time BiU. 

v 

' 

Alliance  and  Dublin  Consumers  Gas  Bill 

upon Monday  next. 

[Lords'].

Alexandra	  (Newport  and  South  Wales) 

Docks and  Railway  Bill  [Lords]. 

Rio  Tinto  Company  Bill  [Lords]. 
South  Staffordshire  Water  Bill  [Lords], 
Pontvpool  Gas and Water  Bill  [Lords], 
Ordered, That the Bills be read  a second time. 

North 

The  House  proceeded  to take  into  considera-

Ekctric  Power 
Supply Bill, 

Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to 
the North  Metropolitan  Electric  Power  Supply 
Bill;  and the same were twice  read, and  agreed 
to. 

Harrogate 
Gas Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments made by  their 
Lordships. 

A  Motion  being  made,  That  the  Harrogate 

Gas Bill  be  now read the third  time ; 

Mr.  Birrell,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted the  House  that His  Majesty, having 
been  informed  of  the  purport of the  Bill, gives 
His  Consent,  as  far  as  His  Majesty's  interest 
is  concerned, that  the  House  may  do therein  as 
they  shall think fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and 

passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 

the Lords,  and desire their concurrence. 

Liskeard and 
A  Motion  being  made,  That  the  Liskeard 
Liskeard and  aQd  Looe  and  Liskeard  and  Caradon  Railways 
(Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  [L.ords]  be  now  read  the 
Caradon 
third time  ; 
Railways 

BiliS[Lords°j> 

And  notice  being  taken  that  the  interest  of 
the  Prince  of  Wales,  as  Duke  of  Cornwall,  is 
concerned  therein ; 

Mr.  Birrell,  by  Command  of  His  Royal 
Highness, acquainted  the  House that His  Royal 
Highness,  having  been informed  of  the  purport 
of  the  Bill,  gives  His  Consent,  as  far  as  His 
Royal  Highness's  interest  is concerned, that the 
House may do therein  as they shall think fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time and 

passed. 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint  them  that this  House 
hath agreed to the same,  with  Amendments ;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

Pontypridd 
Water Bill.	 

The  Pontypridd  Water  Bill  was  read  the 

t h j r d  t i me  a n a' p a ssed. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire  their concurrence. 

Wells  Gas Bill  The  Wells  Gas  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  the 
[Lords.] 

third time and passed, with Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the Bill  to 
the Lords ;  and acquaint  them  that this  House 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Third Reading  of  the  Local  Government  Pro-  Government 
visional Orders  (No.  2) Bill; 

S g  . 

2) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read the third  time 15iJ]­

upon  Monday  next. 

Mr.  Tennant,  supported  by  Mr.  Churchill,  Pier and 

presented  a  Bill  to  confirm certain Provisional  Harbour 
Orders made by  the Board  of  Trade  under  the o X f ^ o  .  2) 
General  Pier  and  Harbour  Act,  1861, relating  Bill, 
to  Bognor,  Heme  Bay,  and  Truro :  And  the  Bill 208. 
same was read the first time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be printed. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and  Public 

read ;  and ordered  to  lie upon the Table. 

VideSecond 
Report. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  pursuant  to  the Merchant 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Account Seamen's 
of  the Receipt  and Expenditure  under  the Sea-F™d­
men's  Fund  Winding-up  Act  from 1 st  January  No. 157. 
to  31at December  1908. 

Ordered,  That the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His  Mines  (Royal 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Minutes  of  Commission.) 
Evidence taken before the  Royal  Commission on 
Mines, with Index  and Appendices.  Vol.  IV. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented, pur- shop  Hours 
suant  to the directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament, Act, 190i. 
—Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
West  Riding  of  York  under  the  Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by  the  Secretary  of 
State,  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
hours of closing for certain  classes of  Shops in the 
Urban  Districts  of  Mexborough and  Swinton. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Colonial 
Command,— Copy  of  Report,  No.  597  (Saint Keports 
Helena, Annual  Report for  1908). 

(Annual.) 

Copy  of  Convention  (dated  1st  April  1909)  Transvaal, 

between the  Governor  of  the Transvaal  and the 
Portuguese  Province  of  Mozambique. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Atherley-Jones, supported   b y  Mr.  Cross,  Money 

Mr.  Carr-Gomm,  Mr.  O'Grady,  Mr.  Charles  Lenders Bill. 
Nicholson,  Mr. Marnham, Mr. Frederick Edwin  Bill 209. 
Smith,  and  Mr.  Walsh,  presented  a  Bill  to 
amend  the Money  Lenders Act,  1900:  And  the 
same was ordered  to  be read a second  time upon 
Wednesday  the  9th  day of  June  next;  and to 
be printed. 

­
No.  62.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

21st May. 

Police 
(Malicious 
Injuries) 
(Ireland)  Bill.  juries) (Ireland)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Police  (Malicious  In-

And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by leaving  out  the  word  "now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day  six  months." —  (Mr. 
Lonsdale.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word "  nOw "  stand part of  the  Question  :—And 
a Debate arising  thereupon ; 

Mr.  Ginnell rose  in his  place  and  claimed  to 

move, That  the  Question be now put. 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate,)  Affirmative. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the Ques­
tion  be  now  p u t : — It  was  resolved  in  the 

And the  Question being  accordingly put, That 

the word " now "  stand part of  the  Question ; 

The  House divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left.  • 
Tellers for  the) Captain  Donelan, 

\ 
I Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien :  J 
Tellers for the f Sir  Frederick Banbury,  "I ,

Yeas, 

88. 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Gordon-. 
So it  passed  in the  Negative. 
And  the  Question  being put, That  the words 
"  upon  this  day  six  months"  be  added  at  the 
end of  the  Question :—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

j  1/b' 

Then  the  Main  Question, so amended, being 

put; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  this day  six months. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Women's 
Enfranchise- Second  Reading  of  the  Women's  Enfranchise­
ment Bill. 

ment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon  Friday  the 30th day of July  next. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
Sunday 
Closing 
the adjourned  Debate  on the  Question  proposed 
(Wales)  Act 
upon  the  26th  day  of  March  last,  That  the 
(1881) 
Amendment  Sunday  Closing  (Wales)  Act  (1881)  Amend-
Bill. 

ment  Bill  be  now read  a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Wednesday  the 23rd day  of  June next. 

Criminal 
Appeal  Bill.  Second Reading  of the Criminal Appeal  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The,  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Infant Life 

Second  Reading  of  the  Infant  Life  Protection  Protection  

BUI; 

Bill. 

° 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Post office 

Second  Reading  of  the  Post  Office  (Lotteries 
and Obscene  Matter) Bill; 

. 

aud 

Matter)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Municipal 
Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Elections  Elections  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

(Water 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time  Elghts^ Bl11, 

upon Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 
Bffl_ 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Mr.  Fenwick reported  from the  Committee  of  Selection 
Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol-(Standing 
lowing  Member  from  Standing  Committee  A  s S n  g 
(in respect  of the  Coal  Mines  (Checkweighers)  Committee A. 
Bill)  :—Mr.  Attorney  General;  and  had  ap- Coal Mines 
pointed in  substitution  (in  respect  of  the  said ^ e h e M - "  Bill 
Bill):  Mr.  Solicitor  General. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Colonel  Williams reported from the  Committee  Public 
of Public  Accounts;  That they had made further Accounts 
Progress  in  the  matters  to  them  referred,  and Rep"rt.) 
directed  him  to  make  a  Report  thereof  to the 
House. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  N o.  158. 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Mr. Ashton reported  from  the  Committee  on Bailway  Bills 

Group  2  of  Railway  Bills ;  That, for  the con-  (Group 
venience of parties, the Committee had adjourned 
till Tuesday  next,  at  half  an  hour after Eleven 
of  the  clock. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Friday  the  11th day  of June next. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Railways 
(Eight  Hours)  g e c o n  d  Rea(Jing  of the Railways  (Eight  Hours) 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill be  read a second time 

upon  Friday  the  11th day of June  next. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time, upon Waste Lands 

Monday  next, 
Improvement  Bill  was read, and discharged. 

the  Waste  Lands 

(Ireland) 

BilL 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Friday  the  11th day of June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Medical Acts 
Amendment  Second  Reading  of  the  Medical  Acts  Amend-
Bill. 

ment  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant  

to  Standing  Order  No.  3,  it  being then 

eleven  minutes  after  Five  of  the  clock,  

till Monday  next.  


Registration  of  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Registration  of  Nurses 
Nurses 
( S c o t l a n d ) B i U . 
(Scotland) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Tuesday  the 8th day  of  June next. 

VOL.  164. 

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18th—19th May. 

1909. 

[No.  60. 

STANDING  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution  by Mr. Speaker, pursuant to  Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

Name of Bill. 

Standing 
Committee. 

Sir  R .  W h i t t i n g t o n 's  Charity  B i ll 

-

Bridgend  (Hope  English  Baptist 

Chapel, &c.) Charity Bill. 

John Marshall's Charity Bill  ­

Lichfield  and  L o n g d on  C o n g r e g a­

tional  Chapels  and  T r u st  P r o p e r ty 
Charity  Bill, 

Dewsbury  and  Batley  Congrega­
tional Chapel Charities Bill. 

W o r t l ey 

Congregational 

Chapel 

Charity  Bill. 

and  London, 
Chatham, 
and  Dover 
Railways  Bill 
[  Lords.] 
South  Western 
and  Isle of 

The  Ravenglass  and  Eskdale  Railway  Bill 

and  Eskdale 
[Lords]  was read a second time, and committed.  	Railway  Bill 

[Lords. J 

Ordered, That  the South  Eastern and London, 	South  Eastern 

Chatham, and  Dover  Railways  Bill  [T^ords]  be 
read a second time to-morrow. 

The  South  Western  and Isle  of  Wight  Junc­

tion  Railway  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  a  second Wight 
time, and committed. 

Junction 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 
The  London  County  Council  (Money)  Bill London 
County 
Council 
(Money)  Bill. 

was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time, 
and committed.  	

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders  Local 

(No.  1)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  the 
third time and passed. 

Orders (No. l) 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the Bill  to  Bm­

the  Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders  Local 

(No. 2)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read the Government 
third time and passed, 

S .

 2 

) 

[No.  63.] 

Monday, 24th May  1909. 

The  House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three of  the  clock. 

P R AY  E R S. 

R.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
from one of  the Examiners of  Petitions for 
Private  Bills, That  in  the case of  the  following 
Bills,  originating  in the  Lords,  and referred  on 
the  First  Reading  thereof, the  Standing  Orders 
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are 
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
viz.:— 

Wakefield  Corporation  Bill  [.Lords]. 
Southend-on-Sea  Corporation  Bill [Lords]. 
Methwold  and  Feltwell  Drainage  Bill 

[Lords]. 

Ordered,  That  the Bills be read a second time. 

The  South  Lincolnshire  Water  Bill  [Lords'] 
was  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with 
Amendments. 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill to 
the Lords;  a,nd  acquaint them  that  this House 
hath agreed  to the  same, with  Amendments;  to 
which this  House  doth desire the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

Private  Bills 
[Lords]
(Standing 
Orders  not 
previously 
inquired  into 
complied 
with.) 

South 
Lincolnshire 
Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

West 
Gloucester­
shire  Water 
Bill. 

The  West  Gloucestershire  Water  Bill  was 

read the third time and passed. 

Ordered,  That the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to  Bm­

the Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

Several Public  Petitions  were  presented, and  Public 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

r 

m?8,, 
Vide  Third 
Report. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His  Shipping 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the commteton 
Royal  Commission  appointed  to  inquire  into 
Shipping Rings.  Vol. I,, Report.  Vols.  II. and 
III.,  Minutes of  Evidence  and  Appendices. 

Copy  of  Report  of  the  Departmental  Com-  Police 

mittee  on the Duties of  the  Police  with  respect 
to  the preservation  of  order  at Public  Meetings.  pubjjc
er at 
Vol.  I.,  Report  and  Appendices.  Vol.  II.,   Meetings) 
Minutes  of Evidence. 

(Departmental 
Committee.) 

Copies of  Reports of  His  Majesty's Inspectors  Mines  and 
of  Mines to the  Secretary of  State for the  Home  Quarries. 
Department  under  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation 
Acts,  1887  to  1905,  the  Metalliferous  Mines 
Regulation  Acts,  1872  and  1875,  and  the 
Quarries Act,  1894, for the year  1908. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  also  presented,  pur-  Polling 
suant to  the directions  of  an  Act  of Parliament.  Districts 
—Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  County  Council ^°™aL°ton 
of  Southampton,  altering  certain  Polling  Dis­
tricts in the Basingstoke  Parliamentary  Division. 
Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr. Burns presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Com- Public  Health 

mand,—  Copy  of  Statistical  Memoranda  and and Social 
Charts, prepared in the Local Government Board,  Couditions­
relating  to  Public Health and Social  Conditions. 
Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Kilkenny, 
Castlecomer, 
and  Athy 
Railway 
Bill. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera­
tion  the  Kilkenny,  Castlecomer,  and  Athy 
Railway  Bill,  as amended in the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read the third time. 

Oldham 
Corporation 
Bill. 

The  House proceeded  to  take  into  considera­
tion the  Oldham Corporation  Bill,  as amended in 
the  Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill be read  the third  time. 

The  Indian Railways (Sinking  Funds  Invest­
ment)  Bill  [Lords]  was read  a  second  time, and 
committed. 

Indian 
Railways 
(Sinking 
Funds 
Investment) 
Bill  [Lord*.] 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  by  His  Majesty's  National 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Director  of ®aU,ery,
the National  Gallery  of  Ireland  to the  Board of <-Ireland--> 
Governors and Guardians for the year  1908. 

Account  of  the  Fee  Fund  of  the  House  of Fee  Fund  

Lords from  1st April  1908 to  31st  March  1909.  (House  of  


. 

- 

Lords.) 

Ordered,  That the said  Papers do lie upon the  


Table. 


Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Trade  Reports 

His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  (Annual 
and Consular Reports, Annual  Series, No. 4227.  Senes,) 
Ordered,  That the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the  


Table. 


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24 th May. 	

187 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie upon the 

was read thefirst time. 

Irish 
Universities 
Act,  1908. 

No. 160. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  pursuant  to  the direc-
tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament, —  Copy  of  a 
Statute for  the  National  University  of  Ireland 
under the Irish  Universities Act,  1908. 

Copy  of  a  Statute  for  University  College, 
Irish 
Universities  Dublin,  under the Irish Universities Act,  1908. 
Act,  1908. 

No. 161. 

Copy  of  a  Statute  for  University  College, 

Irish 
Universities  Cork, under the Irish Universities Act,  1908. 
Act,  1908. 

N o.  1 6 2. 

Copy  of  a  Statute  for  University  College, 
Irish 
Universities  Galway, under the Irish Universities  Act,  1908. 
Act,  1908. 

No. 163. 

Copy  of  Statutes  made for  the  Queen's  Uni-
Iri'h 
Universities  versity  of  Belfast  by the Belfast Commissioners 
Act, 1908. 

under the Irish Universities Act,  1908. 

N o.  1 6 4. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  pursuant  to 
Diseases of 
Animals  Acts,  the directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
1894 to  1903. 
of  an  Order,  No.  7695,  under  the  Diseases  of 
Animals  Acts,  1894  to  1903,  dated  12th  May 
1909, entitled the Importation of Canine Animals 
Order  of 1909. 

Table. 

Colonial 
Reports 
(Miscel-
laneous.) 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of Report, No. 58. 
(Imperial 
Institute,  selected  Reports  from  the  Scientific 
and  Technical  Department;  edited  by  the 
Director.  I.  Fibres.) 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Railway 
Conference.  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Board  of 

Trade Railway Conference. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc-

Workmen's 
Oompensation  tions  of  an Act  of Parliament, was laid upon the 
Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House :—Copy  of 
E  ^ 
Rules under the Workmen's  Compensation  Act, 
1906, dated 19th May  1909. 

Inquiry  into 
Charities 
(County 
Borough  of 
Bury.) 	

Ordered, That there be laid before this House 
a Return  comprising  (1)  the  Reports  made  to 
the  Charity  Commissioners  in  the  result  of  an 
Inquiry held  in  the  County  Borough  of  Bury 
into  Endowments  subject  to  the  provisions  of 
the  Charitable  Trusts  Acts,  1853  to -1894,  and 
appropriated in whole  or  in  part  for  the benefit 
of  that county borough,  or  of  any part  thereof, 
together  with the Reports  on those  Endowments 
of  the  Commissioners  for  inquiring  concerning 
Charities,  1818  to  1837 ;  (2)  a  Digest  showing 
whether  any,  and,  if  any,  what  such  Endow­
ments are recorded in  the books  of  the  Charity 
Commissioners in  the  county borough;  and  (3) 
an Index, alphabetically arranged,  of  names and 
places mentioned  in  the Reports.—(Mr,  Soares.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  B i ll  2 1 0. 

Standing  Committee, be taken into consideration 
to-morrow;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message had  been  brought  from  the Lords  by the Lords. 
one of their Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments United 
made  by  this  House  to  the  United  Kingdom Kingdom 
Temperance 
Temperance  and  General  Provident Institution and  General 
Bill [Lords],  without any Amendment.  	

Provident 
Institution 
Bill [Lords.]

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An East Sussex  


Act  to empower the County  Council  of  the Ad' County 

ministrative  County  of East  Sussex  to construct [Lords.]
sea  defences  for  protecting  the  road  between 
Brighton  and  Rottingdean,  and  for  other  pur­
poses ;  to which the Lords desire the concurrence 
of this House. 

Council  Bill 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An West Kent 
Act for transferring  to the  West  Kent Electric ^lectr^Power 
Company, Limited, certain  of the  powers  of  the  1 
Kent  Electric  Power  Company,  and  for other 
purposes;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  con­
currence  of this House. 

or 

The East  Sussex County Council Bill  [Lords]  East  Sussex 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  [Lords.]


Examiners  of Petitions for  Private  Bills.  


County 
Council  Bill  


' 

The  West  Kent  Electric  Power  Bill [Lords]  West  Kent 

was read the "first time. 

E|ectric^Power 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of Petitions for Private Bills. 

Ordered,  That  the  Intercommunion  Bill  be  inter-

read  a  second  time  upon  Thursday  the 3rd day communion 
of  June next. 

BiU-

Ordered,  That  the  Pedlars Acts  Amendment  Pedlars  Acts 
Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Thursday the Amendment 
3rd day  of June next. 

Ordered, That  the  Prohibition  of  Vivisection  Prohibition  of 
Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Thursday  the Vivisection 
3rd day  of June next. 

1  ' 

Ordered,  That  the  adjourned  Debate  on  the Local 

Question  proposed  upon  the  7th  day  of  this Q  °Y1®g 'I"ent 
instant  May, That the Local Government Quali- (England and 
fication  (England and Wales)  Bill  be  now  read Wales) Bill, 
a  second  time,  be  resumed  upon  Wednesday 
next. 

Ordered, That the Public Health  (Provisional  Public  Health 
Orders)  Bill  be  read a second time upon Thurs- (Provisional 
Orders)  Bill, 
day the 10th day  of June next. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to- Asylum 
morrow,  the  Asylum  Officers'  Superannuation  Officers; Supej­
(Scotland)  Bill  was read, and discharged. 

(Sco^and) 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time Bil1­

upon  Wednesday the 9th day  of  June next. 

Mr.  Watt  presented  a  Bill  to provide for the Milk  Control 

standing 
Sir  David  Brynmor  Jones  reported  from 
Committee A  Standing  Committee  A,  to  whom  the  Coal 
(Check-1169  Mines  (Checkweighers)  Bill  was  referred; 
weighers) Bill. That  they had  gone  through  the Bill and made 

better regulation  of the sale of  Milk in Scotland: ^Scotland) 
And the  same was ordered  to  be read  a second  1 " 
time  upon  Monday the 7th  day  of  June  next; 
1 
and to  be printed. 

Amendments thereunto. 

No. 159. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

No. 159. 

Ordered, That the Minutes  of  the Proceedings 

of the Standing Committee  be printed. 

VOL.  164. 

Mr.  Watt  presented  a  Bill  to  abolish  Votes Votes  by 
by Proxy  at meetings of incorporated companies :  Proxy Bill. 
And  the same was  ordered  to  be read  a  second  Bill 214. 
time  upon  Monday  the 7th  day of  June  next; 
and to  be printed. 

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188 

2 Uh  May. 

1909 

[No. 63, 

Small 

Mr.  Soares, supported  by  Viscount Helmsley, 

U p on  tobacco  manufactured,   v i z . :— 

s.  d. 

(No^^fBill.  Mr.  Montagu,  Sir  Francis  Channing, and  Mr. 
Bill 212  Verney,  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Small 
.  '  Holdings  and  Allotments  Act,  1908 :  And  the 
same was ordered  to  be read a second  time upon 
Monday the  14th  day  of  June next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Vagrancy Act  Mr.  Dickinson,  supported  by  Mr.  Maclean, 
Amendment   M  r  Atherley-Jones,  Mr.  William  Jones,  Mr. 
Bill 213.  Baker, and Mr. Mallet, presented a Bill to amend 
the  Vagrancy  Act,  1824,  and  to  facilitate  the 
establishment of Labour Colonies:  And the same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Friday  the  4th  day  of  June  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Cigars 

-

-

-

-

Cigarettes 

Cavendish   or  Negrohead 

-

-

- 

the  lb. 

7 

the  lb.  5 

- 

the  lb.  5 

Cavendish   or  Negrohead  manufactured   in 

b o n d-

the  lb.  4 
- 
Other  manufactured   tobacco 
4 
the  lb. 
Snuff containing  more  than  thirteen  pounds  

of  moisture   in every one  hundred   pounds 
the  lb. 
weight  thereof 

4 

- 

- 

Snuff  not  containing  more  than  thirteen  

pounds   of  moisture   in  every one  hundred  

pounds  weight  thereof 

- 

-

the  lb.  5 

0 

8 

4 

8 
8 

5 

4 

4.  That  in  lieu  of  the  duties  of  Excise  now Tobacco 
payable  on tobacco grown  in Ireland there shall, ^ f ^ t  ? 
on and after the  thirtieth  day  of  April nineteen EXCjse Duty.) 
hundred  and  nine,  be  charged  the  following 
duties (that  is to say) : — 

of 

Ways and 
Means 
T29th A  11
Report.P" 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported 
  the  Committee  of  Ways and  Means  of  the 
f r om
29th  day  of  April  last  several  Resolutions; 
which were read,  as follow : 

U p on  tobacco  unmanufactured,  v i z . :— 

s.  d. 

Tobacco  containing  ten  pounds   or  more   of  

moisture   in  every  one  hundred  pounds  

-
weight  thereof  -

- 

the  lb.  3 

-

6 

Spirits 
Customs^1 
Duties.) 

, 

Spirits. 

1.  That  in addition  to  the duties of  Customs 
n o  w  J»ayable   o n  spirits  imported  into  Great 
Britain  or  Ireland  there shall,  on and  after  the 
thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen  hundred  and 
nine,  be charged  the following  duties (that  is to 
say) :— 

F or  every  gallon  computed   at  proof   of 
spirits   of  any  description  except  p e r f u m ed 
-
spirits 

-. 

-

-

-

-

every  gallon   of 

For every gallon of perfumed spirits  » 
F or 

cordials, 
mixtures,  and  other  preparations   entered 
in  snch  a  manner   as  to  indicate  that  the 
strength   is  not   to  be  tested 

liqueurs, 

-

-

s.  a. 

- 3 9 
-  6  0 

- 5  5 

and  the  duties  of  Customs  on the articles  here­
after mentioned, being articles  in which  spirit is 
contained,  or in  the manufacture  of  which spirit 
is  used,  shall  be  proportionately  increased,  and 
shall  be as follows :— 

Chloral  hydrate 

Chloroform 

Collodion

-

 . 

Ether  acetic 

-

E t h er  butyric 

Ether  sulphuric 

Ethyl,  iodide   of 

E t h yl  bromide 

-

-

. 

. 

-

-

- 

- 

-

. 

-

-

-

-

-

- 

- 

- 

- 

the  lb. 

the  lb. 

£  s.  d. 
1  9 
0  

0  4 

4 

the  gallon 

1   14  11 

the  lb. 

the  gallon 

0 

1 

2 

7 

1   10 

the  gallon 

1   16 

the  gallon  0   19 

6 

0 

- 

the  lb. 

0  

1 5 

E t h yl  chloride

  . 

. 

. 

the  gallon 

1 

1   10 • 

Spirits 
2.  That  in addition  to the duty  of Excise now 
(Additional  payable  for  every  gallon  computed  at  proof  of 
Excise Duty.)  gpirits  distilled  in  the  United  Kingdom  there 
shall,  on  and  after  the  thirtieth  day  of  April 
nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  be  charged  the 
following duty  (that is  to say):—• 

s.  d. 

F or  every  gallon   of  spirits  computed   at  proof 

9 
and so on  in proportion for any less quantity. 

3 

Tobacco  containing  less  than  ten  pounds   of  

moisture   in  every  one  hundred   pounds 
-
weight  thereof 

- 

-

-

the  lb.  3   11  


U p on  tobacco  manufactured,   v i z . :— 

Cavendish  or  Negrohead  manufactured   in 
-

bond

the  lb.  4 

- 

-

-

-

8

and that duties of Excise  at the same rates shall 
be  charged  on  tobacco  grown  in  England  or 
Scotland;  and that there shall  be  charged  on a 
licence  to  be  taken  out  annually  by  every 
person  growing,  cultivating,  or  curing  tobacco 
in  England  or  Scotland  an  Excise  duty  of  five 
shillings. 

Motor Spirit. 

5.  That  there  shall  be  charged  on  motor Motor Spirit 
spirit,  on  and  after  the  thirtieth  day  of  April (Customs and 
nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  a  Customs  import Exoise Duties^ 
duty  of three pence  per gallon, and on and after 
the first day of June nineteen hundred and nine, 
an  Excise  duty  of  the  like  amount;  and  that 
there  shall  be  charged,  on  and  after  the  last-
mentioned  date,  on  a  licence  to  be  taken  out 
annually  by  a manufacturer  of  motor  spirit  an 
Excise duty  of one pound, and on a licence  to be 
taken  out  annually  by a  dealer  in  motor spirit 
an Excise duty  of five shillings. 

The First Resolution being read a second time; 
i  An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
thereunto,  in  1.  10,  by  inserting  at  the  end 
thereof  the  words  "  Provided  that,  as respects 
spirits  distilled  in  the  Colonies  and  British 
dominions,  the  duties  of  Customs  for  each 
gallon  computed  at  proof  shall  not  exceed  the 
duty of Excise payable  on spirits distilled  in the 
United Kingdom."—(Mr.  Watson Rutherford.) 

And  the Q.uestion being proposed, That those 
words  be there inserted  in  the said  Resolution : 
—The  said proposed Amendment was, with leave 
of the House, withdrawn. 

Tobacco. 

Tobacco 
3.  That  in  lieu of  the duties of  Customs now 
(Alteration of  payable  on tobacco  imported into  Great  Britain 
  I r e , a i Kl  there shall,  on and after  the thirtieth 
Duties)8
or
day  of  April  nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  be 
charged the following duties (that is  to say) :— 

«.  A. 

U p on  tobacco  unmanufactured,   v i z . ;— 

Containing  ten  pounds  or  more  of  moisture 
in  every  one  hundred  pounds  weight 
thereof— 

Unstripped 

Stripped 

-

-

-

-

-

-

- 

- 

the  lb.  3 

8 

the  lb. 

3  

8 | 

Containing  less than  ten'pounds  of  moisture 
in  every  one  hundred  pounds  weight 
t h e r e o f— 

Unstripped 

Stripped 

- 

-

the  lb.  4 

1 

-

-

- 

the  lb.  4  U 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made thereunto,  in 1. 10,  by inserting  at  the end 
thereof  the  words  "  Provided  that  spirits  dis­
tilled  in  the  Colonies,  whether  methylated  in 
the  Colonies  or  in  the  United  Kingdom  after 
importation, shall  be free from duty of Customs." 
— (Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

And the Question being proposed, That those 

words be there inserted in the said Resolution :— 

The  said proposed  Amendment was, with leave  

of the House, withdrawn.  


And  a Motion  being  made, and  the Question 

being put, That this House doth agree with the 

Committee  in the said Resolution ; 


The House divided. 

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The  Noes  to  the Left. 












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Tellers for the [ Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Master  of Elibank : 

\
243. 
J 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  ar.d Means 
Means of the  12 th day  of this instant May ; 

Lepcrf^-1 

Tellers  for  thefSir  Alexander  Acland-
.
Hood>

i 
  V
[Viscount  Valentia : 

Noes 
' 

f"126*
J 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 


So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
The  Second  Resolution  being  read  a second 

time ; 

And a  Motion being  made, and  the Question 
being put, That  this House doth agree with the 
Committee  in the said Resolution ; 

The Order  of the day being read, for receiving Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means of the 10th day  of  this instant May ; 

feport 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 


The  House divided. 

The  Yeas to the Right; 

The  Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for the/ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

I Master  of  Elibank : 
Tellers for the f Mr. Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

[Lord  Balcarres : 

243. 

1  ^ 
J 

So it  was resolved in the Affirmative. 
The  Third  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made 
thereunto,  in  1.  7,  by inserting, after  the  word 
"thereof,"  the  words  " if  grown  without  the 
British Empire."—(Mr.  James  Hope.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted in the said Resolution ; 

The House divided. 

The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the [Mr. James Hope, 

Yeas, 

t Captain  Craig : 

Tellers for the (Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 

,7 

) 
f 
\  jg^  

j 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving ways and 

the  Report from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and Means 
Means  of the 18th day  of this instant May ; 

^ p o r t^ 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 


The Order of the day being read, for receiving Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways and 
Means  of the 5th day  of  this instant  May ; 

Report 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of the day being read, for receiving Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways and 
Means of the 11th day  of this instant May ; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving ways and  


the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  ana Means  

k^rt 
Means  of the 17th day of this instant May; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 


The Order of the day being read, for receiving Ways and  


So it passed  in the Negative. 
And a Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  put, That  this House doth  agree with the 
Committee  in the said Resolution ; 

morrow. 


the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways and  

Means  of the 20th day  of this instant May ; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

The House divided. 
The  Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the] Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis: 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

(Lord Balcarres  : 

1 . fiQ
J 

j  75. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
The  Fourth  Resolution  being  read  a second 

time; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Supply. 


Committee of Supply;  


Resolved, That this House will, upon Wednes­
day next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Ways and 

Committee  of  Ways  and Means ;

Means-

Resolved, That this House will, upon Wednes­
day next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
thereunto,  in  1. 7,  by leaving  out  "  3s. 6d.," and 
inserting  "  Is.  9c?."  —  (Mr.  James  Hope),—
instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That 
" 3  s  .  6d."  stand  part  of  the  Resolution  :—The 
said  proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of 
the House, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made thereunto, in 1. 7,  by leaving out "  3s. Gd." 
and  inserting  "  2s.  10rf." —  (Mr.  William  Red­
mond),—instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That 
"  3s. 6d."  stand  part  of the Resolution :—And a 
Debate arising thereupon ; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and the Question 
being  put,  That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned 
—(Mr.  Carlile) : —  It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

Ordered, That the  Fifth  Resolution  be taken 

into further consideration to-morrow. 

VOL .  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Established 


Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church ?J™ch  

(Wales)  Bill; 

(Wales)  Bill 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday the 7th day  of  June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 
Second Reading  of  the London Electric  Supply E'ectric 
Bill;
1 

Supply Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday the 7th day  of June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish Land 

Committee  on the Irish  Land Bill; 

BiU-

Resolved, That this  House will, upon  Monday 
the  7 th day  of June next,  resolve itself  into the 
said Committee. 

The Order  of the day being read, for resuming Houses of 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which, Parliament 
upon  the  20th  day  of  April last, was proposed BlU" 
to be made to the Question, That  the Houses of 
Parliament  Bill  be now read a second time ; 

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[No. 63. 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till Monday the 7th day  of June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
Secretary  of 
the Board  of  Second Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries  of Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Assistant 
Postmaster 
General  Bill.  General  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Labour 
Second  Reading  of  the  Labour  Exchanges Exchanges 
Bill; 

Bm" 

° 

. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Monday the 7th day  of  June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Electric 

Second Reading  of  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts Lighting Acts 
(Amendment)  Bill  [Lords]  ; 

BnTfioXf 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday the 7th day  of June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  	the  House Letting 

Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill; 

and  ^nd Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Places of 
(Enfranchise-  Second  Reading  o £  the  Places  of  "Worship 
mentOBill!S 

(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday the 7th day  of June next. 

London 
Elections Bill.  Second Reading  of the London  Elections  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Friday the 4th day  of June next. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming Cinemato­
the adjourned  Debate  on the Question proposed graph Bill, 
upon the 21st  day  of  April  last, That the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

till  Thursday the 3rd day  of June next. 

upon Friday the 4th day  of June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Election  of 
Aldermen  in  Second Reading  of the Election  of  Aldermen in 
Municipal  Municipal Boroughs Bill-; 
Boroughs  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Marine 

Second Reading of the Marine Insurance (Gam­
bling  Policies) Bill; 

PoMesffill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday the 7th day  of June next. 

upon Monday the 7th day  of  June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Check-
weighing  in  Second Reading of the Checkweighing  in various 
various 
Industries 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

Industries  Bill; 

upon Thursday the 3rd day  of June next. 

Buildings and  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Engineering  Second Reading  of the Buildings and Engineer-
Works  Bill. 

ing Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Thursday the 3rd day of June next. 

Trawling in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
(Prevention) 
Bill. 

The  Order of  the  day being  read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited 
Areas  (Prevention)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee j 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration upon  Thursday the  3rd  day  of  June 
next. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on Irish Land  [Advances,  &c.]; 

Resolved, That this House will, upon  Monday 
the 7th day  of June next, resolve itself  into  the 
said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Telegraph 
(Arbitration)  Second Reading  of  the Telegraph  (Arbitration) 
Bill. 

Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday  the 7th day  of June next. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning, &c. 
Bil). 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on the Housing, Town Planning, &c. 
Bill; 

Resolved,  That this House will,  upon Monday 

the 7th day  of  June  next, resolve itself into the 
said Committee. 

Mr.  Churchill reported  from  the  Committee  Trade Boards 
on  Trade  Boards  [Expenses]  a  Resolution; [Expenses.] 
which was read,  as followeth ; 

That  it  is expedient  to authorise the payment, 
out  of  moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of 
remuneration  and  expenses incurred under any 
Act  cf  the  present  Session  to  provide  for  the 
establishment  of  Trade  Boards  for  certain 
trades. 

The  said  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time  ;  • 

And a Motion being made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  this  House  doth  agree 
with  the  Committee  in  the said Resolution :— 
And a Debate arising thereupon ; 

And  a Motion being  made, and  the  Question 
being put, That the Debate  be now adjourned— 
(Sir  Frederick  Banbury)-.—It  was  resolved  in 
the Affirmative. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  upon 

Friday  the 4th day  of June next. 

The  Order of the day being  read,  for  taking Board of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade Bin. 
amended  in the  Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Thursday the  3rd  day of June 
next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland *nlan<' 
-X 
Revenue Bill j 

o	 

Revenue  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Vehicular 

Second Reading  of the Vehicular Traffic (Regu- Traffic 
lation  of  Speed) Bill; 

g f a j t T' 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon Monday the 5th day  of July next. 

Superannua-
tion  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the  Superannuation  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Charitable 
Second Reading  of  the  Charitable Trusts Bill;  Trusts Bill, 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

upon Monday the 7th day  of  June next. 

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191 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Union Officers 
(Ireland) Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Union  Officers (Ireland) 

Bill; 

The House proceeded  to  take  into considera- Sligo and 

tion  the  Sligo  and  Arigna  Railway  Bill,  as  
amended in the Committee.

way  1

B m 
  ' 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time. 

upon Friday the 4th day  of June next. 

Territorial 
Army  Ballot 
BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
Second Reading  of  the  Territorial Army Ballot 
Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  South Eastern 
Second  Reading  of  the  South  Eastern  and and London, 
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill ^Dover 
\_Lords]  ; 

Railways  Bill 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday the 7th day  of June next. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday the 7th day  of June next. 

Necessitous 
Mothers 
(Assistance) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Necessitous  Mothers 
(Assistance)  Bill; 

Several Public Petitions  were presented,  and Public 

read;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

vile Third 
Report. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey presented,  by His Trade  Reports 

upon Monday the 7th day  of June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Theatres  and 
Music  Halls  Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music 
Bill. 

Halls  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Wednesday next. 

Local 
Authorities 
(Legal 

Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of the Local  Authorities (Legal 
Expenses) Bill; 

Ordered, That the BiU  be read a  second  time 

upon Monday the 7th day  of June next. 

And  it being  half  an hour  after  Eleven  of 
the  clock.  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant 
to the Standing Order,  till to-morrow. 

[No.  64.] 

Tuesday, 2hth May  1909. 

The  House met at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three  of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

[New  Title.] 

Llanelly  THE  Llanelly  Water  Bill  was read  the third 

"Water  Bill. 

time  and  passed ;  with  a  new  Title,  as 
followeth i—rAn  Act  to  empower  the  Urban 
District  Council  of  Llanelly,  in the  County  of 
Carmarthen, to construct and maintain additional 
waterworks;  to define and  extend the limits for 
the supply  of water, and for other purposes. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Central 
London 
Railway  Bill.  amended in the Committee. 

The House  proceeded  to take  into considera-
tion  the  Central  London  Railway  Bill,  as 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Dudley 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.]  amended  in the Committee. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take into considera-
tion  the  Dudley  Corporation  Bill  [Lords],  as 

Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time. 

Hoiywood 
Tramways 
Bill. 

The House proceeded  to take  into considera-
tion the Hoiywood Tramways  Bill,  as amended 
in the Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Hull  and 
Barnsley 
Biailway  Bill. 

The  House proceeded  to  take  into considera-
tion  the  Hull  and  Barnsley  Railway  Bill,  as 
amended in the Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

V O L . 1 6 4. 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic and j^g"?1 
Consular Reports, Annual  Series,  No. 4226. 

61-1 

Copy  of  Denunciation  of  the  Agreement  of Treaty Series 
19th  November  1907,  between  the  United  (No. 13,1909.) 
Kingdom  and  the  United  States  of  America, 
respecting  (1)  Commercial  Travellers'  Samples 
entering  the  United  Kingdom;  (2)  Import 
Duties  on  British  Works  of  Art  entering  the 
United States.  1st May  1909. 

Copy  of  Despatches  from  His  Majesty's Taxation  of 
Consular  Officers  respecting  the  Taxation  of ^ cJ. a l u e3 
Land  Values  at  New  York, Boston, San Fran-ianeous" 
cisco, and Cleveland (Ohio). 

No.  6, 1909.) 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Merchant 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  SL^aavin 
Rule for  Life-saving  Appliances  made  by  the AppliancesO 
Board  of  Trade  under  the  Merchant  Shipping 
Act,  1894. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this House High  Court  of 

a  Return  of  the  Sittings  of  the  Judges  of  the Justice 
King's  Bench  Division  of  the  High  Court  of  (D®^n®encb 
Justice,  in  the  same  form  as  that  given  in (sittings.) 
the  Civil  Judicial  Statistics  [Cd.  4029]  for 
the  Judges  of  the  Chancery  Division.—(Mr. 
Soames.) 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means  reported Donington 
the  Donington  Water  Bill  \ Lords],  with  Water  Bill 
Amendments.

l Z o r d ^

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported Worksop 
the Worksop Water Bill  \Lords],  with Amend- Water  Bill 
ments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

The Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  reported Stock 
the  Stock  Conversion  and  Investment  Trust Conversion 
and  Invest­
(North  Eastern  Railway  Consols)  Bill  [Lords], ment  Trust 
without Amendment. 

(North 
Kastern 
Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the Railwav 

Table;  and be printed. 

Consols)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought from  the Lords by the  Lords. 
one of their Clerks,  as followeth : 

The Lords have agreed to the Laud Drainage Land 
Provisional  Order  (No.  2)  Bill,  without  anv £rai?ase 
» 
. 
Amendment. 

J  Provisional 

0rder (No_  2 ) 
Bill. 

The Lords have agreed  to the Land  Drainage Land 
Provisional  Order  (No.  3)  Bill,  without  any Drainage 
Amendment. 

£ ^ 3  ) 

B  B  4 

Bill.  ^ 

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192mil—mil May. 	

1909.  [No. 65. 


ordered to be  read a  second  time  upon Monday 
the 7th day  of June next;  and to be printed. 

A  Message  was  delivered  by  Admiral  Sir Royal Assent. 

Henry Frederick  Stephenson,  Gentleman Usher 
of the Black  Rod: 

Eastbourne 
Gas Bill. 

Liskeard  and 
Looe  and 
Liskeard  and 
Caradon 
Railways 
(Vesting,  &c.)  

Bill  [Lords.]

Wells  Gas 
Bill 

[Lords.] 

The  Lords  have  agreed,  to  the  Eastbourne 
Gas  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which  the 
Lords desire the concurrence  of this House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
made by this House  to  the  Liskeard  and  Looe 
and  Liskeard  and  Caradon  Railways (Vesting, 

&c.) Bill [Lords'], without any Amendment.  


The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments  


 made  by  this  House  to  the  Wells  Gas  Bill 
[Lords],  without any Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
South 
Lincolnshire  made  by this  House  to  the  South Lincolnshire 
Water  Bill  Water  Bill [Lords],  without any Amendment. 
[Thirds.] 

Mr. Fenwick  reported from the  Committee  of 
Selection 
Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol-
(Standing 
Committees.) 
lowing  Members  from  Standing  Committee  B 
Standing 
Committee  B.  (in  respect  of  the  Sale  of  Margarine  Bill):— 
Mr.  Churchill, Mr.  Tennant,  and  Mr.  Nolan;
Sale of 
Margarine 
and had  appointed  in substitution  (in respect of 
Bill. 
the  said  Bill):  Captain  Donelan,  Mr.  T.  W. 
Russell, and Sir Edward Strachey. 

Mr. Fenwich further  reported from  the  Com-
Standing 
Committee  B.  	 mittee ;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing 
Committee  B  the  following  Fifteen  Members 
(in respect  of the Sale  of  Margarine Bill) :—-Mr. 
Bertram  Straus,  Mr.  Byles,  Mr.  Seaverns, Mr. 

Scott,  Mr.  Holt,  Mr.  Barlow,  Mr.  John Roche, 
Viscount  Helmsley,  Mr.  Starkey,  Mr.  Stanier, 
Mr.  iMmbton,  Mr.  Kilbride,  Mr.  Augustine
Roche, Mr.  Condon,  and Mr. Shackleton. 

Sale  of  

Margarine 
Bill. 


Mi'.  Fenwick further reported  from  the Com-
Standing 
Committee  B.  mittee ;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing 
Committee  B  the  following  Fifteen  Members 
(in respect  of  Sir R.  Whittington's Charity Bill, 
Sir  R. 
Whittington'i  the  Bridgend  (Hope  English  Baptist  Chapel, 
Charity  Bill, 
&c.)  Charity  Bill,  John  Marshall's  Charity 
&c. 	
Bill, the Lichfield and  Longdon  Congregational 
Chapels  and  Trust  Property  Charity Bill,  the 
Dewsbury  and  Batley  Congregational  Chapel 
Charities  Bill,  and  the Wortley  Congregational 
Chapel Charity Bill) :—Mr. Soares, Mr.  Barlow,
Mr.  Marnham, Mr.  Hutton,  Mr.  Haworth, Mr. 
Rendall,  Sir  John  Jardine,  Sir  William Anson, 
Mr.  Walrond,  Sir  John  Randies,  Sir  John 
Kennaway,  Mr.  William  Harvey,  Mr.  MacNeill,
Mr.  Hugh Law, and Mr. Jenkins. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Merchant 
__  _ 
Shipping 
Oighthouses)  houses) Bill  was read, and discharged. 

The  Order for  reading  a  second  time,  upon 
Friday  next,  the  Merchant  Shipping  (Light-

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday the 21st day  of June next. 

B i ll	   2 1 5. 

Mr.  T.  W. Russell presented  a Bill  to  enable 
Merchandise 
Marks 
the  Department  of  Agriculture  and  Technical 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Instruction for Ireland to undertake Prosecutions 
in  certain  cases  under  the  Merchandise  Marks 
Act,  1887 :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be 
read  a  second  time  upon Tuesday  the  15 th day 
of June next;  and to  be printed. 

Mr. Burns, supported by Sir Edward Strachey, 
Milk  and 
Dairies  Bill.  Mr.  Attorney  General  for  Ireland,  and  Mr. 
.  B i ll  2 1 6.  	 Masterman,  presented  a  Bill  to  make  better 
provision  with  respect  to  the  sale  of  Milk  and 
the  regulation  of  Dairies:  And  the  same was 
ordered  to  be  read a second time upon Monday 
the 7th day  of June next;  and to  be printed. 

Mr.  Speaker, 

The  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commission,  for declaring  His  Royal 
Assent  to  several  Acts  agreed  upon  by  both 
Houses, desire the  immediate  attendance  of this 
Honourable  House  in  the  House  of  Peers,  to 
hear the Commission read. 

Accordingly  Mr.  Speaker,  with  the  House, 
went  up  to  the House  of  Peers :—And  having 
returned; 

Mr.  Speaker  reported,  That  the  House,  at 
the desire  of  the Lords authorised  by virtue  of 
His  Majesty's  Commission,  had  been  at  the 
House  of Peers, where a Commission  under  the 
Great  Seal  was  read,  giving,  declaring,  and 
notifying  the Royal  Assent  to  the several Acts 
therein mentioned;  and that the  Lords thereby 
authorised  had  declared  the  Royal  Assent  to 
the said Acts,  as follow : 

1.  Indian Councils Act,  1909. 
2.  Kirkwall  Water  Order Act,  1909. 
3.	  Land  Drainage  Provisional  Order  Con­

firmation  (No.  2)  Act,  1909.  


4.	  Land  Drainage  Provisional  Order  Con­

firmation  (No. 3)  Act,  1909.  


5.  Hastings  Harbour Act,  1909. 
6.	  London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railway  


Act,  1909.  


7.	  Anglo -  Argentine  Tramways  Company,  


Limited, Act,  1909.  


8.	  Wirral  Railway (Extension of Time) Act, 


1909. 


9.	  Heckmondwike  and Liversedge  Gas  Act,  


1909. 


10.  Leyland Gas  Act,  1909. 
11.  Littlehampton  Gas Act,  1909. 
12.	  Wandsworth  Borough  Council  (Super­

annuation)  Act,  1909.  


13.	  United Kingdom Temperance and General 

Provident  Institution Act,  1909,  


14.  Conway  Gas Act,  1909. 
15.	  North  Metropolitan  Electric  Power  Sup­

ply Act,  1909.  


16.	  Great  Western  Railway,  Liskeard  and  


Looe  and  Liskeard  and Caradon  Rail­
ways Act,  1909.  


17.  Wells  Gas Act, 1909. 
18.	  South Lincolnshire  Water Act,  1909. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming ways and 

-

-

-

- -

the adiourned Debate  on the Amendment  which, Means 
- -
-
was 5
upon  the  24th  day  of  this  instant  May, 
proposed  to  be  made  to  the  Fourth  of  the 
Resolutions  which  were  reported  from  the 
Committee of  Ways  and  Means  of  the 29th day 
of  April  last,  That  in  lieu  of  the  duties  of Tobacco 
Excise now payable on tobacco grown in Ireland &Pland?on of 
there  shall,  on  and  after  the  thirtieth  day  of  ExciseDuties.) 
April  nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  be  charged 
the following duties (that  is to say) :— 

  [29th  April] 
Report. 

Upon  tobacco  unmanufactured,  v i z . :— 

s.  d. 

Tobacco  containing  ten  pounds   or  more   of  

moisture  in  every  one  hundred  pounds 
weight  thereof 

the  lb.  3 

- 

-

-

-

6 

County 
Councils 

Bill. 

Bill  217. 

Mr.  Burns  presented  a  Bill  to  remove 
certain limitations  on the borrowing by  a county 
council  by  way  of  Mortgage  under  the  Local 
Government  Act,  1888:  And  the  same  was 

Tobacco containing  less  than  ten  pounds   of  

moisture   in  every  one  hundred  pounds  

-
weight  thereof  -

- 
Upon  tobacco  manufactured,  v i z . :—  


-

the  lb.  3   11  


Cavendish  or  Negrohead  manufactured   in  


b o n d-

-

-

-

- 

the  lb.  4
 

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No.  64.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

25th  May. 

and that duties  of Excise  at  the same rates shall 
be  charged  on  tobacco  grown  in  England  or 
Scotland,  and  that  there shall  be  charged  on a 
licence to be taken out annually  by every person 
growing, cultivating, or curing tobacco in England 
or Scotland  an Excise duty  of five shillings ; 

Which  Amendment  was, in  1. 7,  to  leave out 
"3s.  6d.,"  and  insert  "2s.  10c?."—(Mr.  William 
Redmond),—instead thereof; 

And the Question being again proposed,  That 
"3s.  6d."  stand  part  of  the  Resolution: — The 
House resumed the said adjourned Debate. 

And the Question being  put;  

The  House divided.  

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the (Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Master  of  Elihank  : 

Tellers for the ( Mr. Patrick  O'Brien, 

Noes, 

\ Mr. Boland : 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And a Motion  being  made, and  the Question 
being put, That  this House doth  agree with  the 
Committee  in the said Resolution ; 

The House divided. 

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the [Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
\Master  of Elibank : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for theJSir^lejcander  Acland­

Noes 
' 

. U o o d >

1
(Viscount  Valentia : 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

The  House divided.  

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

\ Master of Elibank 

Yeas, 

193 

|  256. 

Tellers for the {^Alexander  Acland-
\  f*ood> 
(Viscount  Valentia'. 

Noes 
' 

j 
1
J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and Means 
Means  of the 12th day  of this instant May; 

feport 

1 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

1 
j 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Ways and 

the Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and ?lea?3,. 
Report 
Means  of  the 10th day  of this instant May ; 

131. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Ways and. 

the  Report  from the  Committee  of  Ways  and Means_ 
Means  of the 18th day  of this instant  May ; 

Keport 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

\  0,„  


I 

The Order of  the day being read, for receivin,  Ways and 

Means 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways anu r5th j, 
Means  of  the 5th day  of  this instant May ; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

• 128. 

morrow. 

Mo.tor Spirit 
BxiseDuto  ° n

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 

Ways and 
Means 
into  further  consideration  the  Fifth  of  the 
[29th April]  Resolutions  which,  upon  the  24th  day  of  this 
instant  May, were reported  from the Committee 
of  Ways  and  Means  of  the  29th  day  of  April 
last, That there shall  be charged on motor spirit, 

epor ' 

  a nd  a f t er  t be  t h i r t i e th

  day  of April  nineteen 

xci  u ies.j }jun(jre(j  an(l  nine,  a  Customs  import  duty  of 
three pence per gallon, and  on and after the  first 
day  of  June  nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  an 
Excise duty  of the like amount;  and that there 
shall be charged, on and after the last-mentioned 
date,  on a licence  to  be taken out annually by a 
manufacturer of  motor spirit  an  Excise duty of 
one  pound,  and  on  a  licence  to  be  taken  out 
annually  by a  dealer  in motor  spirit  an  Excise 
duty  of five shillings ; 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Ways and 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways. and rnthMayl 
Means of the  11th day  of this instant  May ; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The Order  of the day being read, for receiving Ways and 
-> 

the  Report  from  the Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means  of  the 17th day  of this instant  May; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Ways and 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Wavs  and ™®a?sM 
Eeport 
Means  of the 20th day  of  this instant May ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

And the Resolution being read a second time ; 
An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made 
thereunto,  by  adding  at  the  end  thereof  the 
words  "  Provided  that  a  rebate^of  the  amount 
of  such  duty shall  be  allowed  in  respect  of  all 
motor  spirit  used  in  public  service  and  com­
mercial  vehicles, and  in  all  arts  and  manufac­
tures."—(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Secretary of 
Second Reading  of  the  Secretary  of the  Board tlie Board of 
of Agriculture and Fisheries Bill; 

an^FisheHes 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second  time Bill> 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assistant 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster ^g^afBili. 
General  Bill; 

be there added; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 

The Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the/Mr. Joynson-Hicks, 

Yeas, 

(Sir  William  Bull: 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
(Master  of Elibank : 

Noes, 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Superannua-

Second Reading  of the Superannuation Bill;  Won Bil!­

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

1 
 60. 
J 

|  238 

So it passed  in the Negative. 
And a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being put,  That this House doth agree with  the 
Committee,  in the said Resolution; 

YOL.  164. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland *flaild 
-i-v 
Revenue Bui; 

• 11 

U6V6QU6 Dills-

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

c  c 



194 

mil—mil

May. 

1909. 

[No.  65. 

Association of 
Port  Sanitary 
Authorities 
(Expenses) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Association  of  Port 
Sanitary Authorities (Expenses)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Tuesday the 8th day  of June next. 

Hours of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the  Hours  of Labour (Sur­
facemen) Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

[No.  65.] 

Wednesday, 2Qth May  1909, 

The House met at a quarter  of  an hour 

before Three  of the clock. 


P  R A Y E R S. 

THE  House proceeded to take into considera- Midland 

tion the Midland Railway Bill  [Lords]  as  Railway  Bill 

amended  in the Committee 

[Lords.']

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Eights)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Tuesday  the 8th day  of June next. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take into considera- Watford 

t i on  t he  W a t f o rd  U r b an  D i s t r i ct  C o u n c il  B i l l,
as amended  in the Committee. 

. ,, 

  U i ' t a n D i s t r i ct 
  Council  Bill, 

'

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Coal  Mines 
(Check­
weighers)  Bill. 

The Order  of  the  day being read, for  taking 

into  consideration  the  Coal  Mines  (Check­
weighers)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 
Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

Blackgame 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Blackgame  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Thursday the  10t.li day  of June next. 

Cheap Trains
'
BiU-

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Cheap Trains  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Bank Holidays
BiU-

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of the Bank Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Dogs'  Protection  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Infant  Life 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Infant Life  Protection 
Bill; 

The Alexandra  (Newport  and  South  Wales) 
Docks  and  Railway  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  a 
second time, and committed. 

Alexandra 
(Newport  and 
South  Wales) 
Docks and 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The Alliance and Dublin  Consumers Gas Bill 
[Lords]  was read a second time, and committed. 

Ordered, That the Pontypool Gas  and  Water 

Bill  [Lords]  be read a second time to-morrow. 

Alliance and 
Dublin 
Consumers  Gas 
Bill  [Lords.]
Pontypool  Gas 
and Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Rio  Tinto  Company  Bill  [Lords]  was  Rio  Tinto 

read a second time, and committed. 

Company  Bin 
[Lords, j 

The  South  Staffordshire  Water Bill  [Lords]  South 

was read a second time, and committed. 

' 

Staffordshire 
Water  Bill 
[Lords,] 

Ordered,  That  Standing  Orders  39,  128, 204,  Private  Bills, 

and  230  be  suspended,  and  that  the  time  for &0, 
depositing  Petitions  and  Memorials  against 
Private  Bills,  or against any Bill  to confirm any 
Piovisional  Order  or  Provisional  Certificate, 
and for depositing duplicates  of  any Documents 
relating  to  any Bill  to  confirm  any Provisional 
Order  or Provisional Certificate, also  for  depo­
siting  at the Private  Bill  Office  all  Documents 
relating  to any Order under  the  Private  Legis­
lation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899,  be 
extended  to  the  first  day  on which  the  House 
shall  sit  after  the  Recess. —  (The  Deputy 
Chairman.) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

to morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Post Office
(Lotteries and  Second  Reading  of  the  Post  Office  (Lotteries 
Matt") Bill,  and  Obscene  Matter)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday the 7th day  of June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Municipal 
Elections Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Elections 

Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time, 

upon Thursday the 3rd day  of  June next. 

And  it  being half  an  hour after Eleven  of 
the  clock,  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question put, pursuant to 
the Standing  Order, till  to morrow. 

The  Musselburgh  Gas  Order  Confirmation Musselburgh 
Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second confirmation 
time, and ordered to  be taken into consideration gin. 
to-morrow. 

Mr.  Masterman,  supported  by  Mr.  Burns,  Local 

presented  a  Bill  to  confirm certain Provisional Government 
Orders  of the Local  Government  Board  relating ordera^. 8) 
to Birkenhead, Coventry, and the Oakwell Joint Bill. 
Hospital District  :  And  the  same was  read  the  Bill 218. 
first  time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for Private  Bills ;  and 
be printed. 

The Lord Advocate  presented  a  Bill  to con- Caledonian 

firm a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Private 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, confirmation 
relating  to  the  Caledonian  Railway :  And  the Bill, 
same  was  ordered  (under Section 7  of the  Act) 
to  be  taken  into  consideration  upon Thursday 
the 3rd day  of June next. 

Mr. Attorney  General for Ireland presented  a  Local 

Bill  to confirm a Provisional Order  of  the Local Government 
Government Board  for  Ireland  relating  to' the ^ re an  ' 

 
 
 
 
No. 63.]  9 EDW.  Y I I. 

24 th May. 

195 

Provisional 
Order (No.  3) 
Bill. 

B UI  2 1 9. 

Gorteen  Drainage  District,  in  the  County  of 
Kildare :  And the same was read thefirst time. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of Petitions  for  Private  Bills :  and 
be printed. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His Local 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Fourteenth  f°^n m e n fc 
Annual  Report  of  the Local  Government Board (Scotland) 
for Scotland, 1908. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 


Table. 


Sea Fisheries 
(Tees) 
Provisional 
Order Bill. 

B i ll  2 2 0. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented  a  Bill  to 
confirm  an Order under the Sea  Fisheries  Acts, 
1843  to 1893, for the improvement, maintenance, 
and regulation  of  an  oyster, mussel, and cockle 
Fishery  in the estuary  of the River Tees  :  And 
the same was read thefirst time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills:  and 
be printed. 

Metropolitan 
Commons 
Provisional 
Order BiU. 

Bill 221. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented  a  Bill  to 
confirm a Scheme under  the  Metropolitan Com­
mons Acts,  1866  to  1898, with respect to Keston 
Common  and  Leaves  Green, in  the  County of 
Kent:  And the same was read thefirst time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for Private  Bills;  and 
be printed. 

Marriages 

Provisional 

Order Bill. 


Bill 222. 

Mr.  Herbert  Samuel  presented,  a  Bill  to 
confirm a Provisional Order made by one of  His 
Majesty's  Principal  Secretaries  of  State under 
the  Provisional  Order  (Marriages)  Act,  1905 : 
And the same was read thefirst time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for Private  Bills;  and 
be printed. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Return  of  Alien 
Passenger  Traffic  between the  United Kingdom 
and  Ports  in  Europe,  or  within  the  Mediter­
ranean  Sea,  during  the  three  months  ending 
31st  March  1909 ;  together with the number of 
Expulsion  Orders  made  during  that  period 
requiring Aliens to leave the United Kingdom, 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey presented,  by His  Trade Reports 

Majesty's Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic and (Al?nual 
Consular Reports,  Annual  Series, Nos. 4230 and 
4231. 

1 

Ordered, That the  said Paper do lie upon the 


Table. 


Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Strikes and 


Command, —  Copy  of  Report  on  Strikes  and Look-°uts­
Lock-outs  of  1908,  and  on  Conciliation  and  

Arbitration Boards.  


Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 


Table. 


The following Paper, pursuant  to the  Report Temporary 


of  the  Select  Committee  on  Expiring  Laws  in ^aws-

Session  1866,  was  laid  upon  the  Table  by the 
 N o.  1 6 7. 
Clerk  of  the  House : — Copy  of  Register  of  

Temporary  Laws for the Fourth  Session  of  the  

Twenty-eighth  Parliament  of the United King­
dom  of  Great  Britain  and  Ireland  (9  Edward  

YII.,  1909).  


Ordered, That the said Paper  be printed. 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this House Tuberculosis, 


a  Copy  of  the Tuberculosis  Order  of  1909, and 

of  a  Circular  Letter  issued  by  the  Board  of  

Agriculture and Fisheries  to  Local  Authorities  

in Great Britain under the Diseases  of  Animals  

Acts,  1894  to  1903.  


Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-  Experiments 

sented to His Majesty, that He will be graciously 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid * 
before this House a Return showing the number 
of Experiments  on  Living  Animals during  the 
year  1908  under  licences  granted  under  the 
Act  39  &  40  Vict.  c.  77,  distinguishing  the 
nature  of  the  Experiments  (in  continuation  of 
Parliamentary  Paper, No.  172  of Session  1908). 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions of several Acts  of Parliament,—Copy 
of  Order  in  Council under  the  Foreign Juris­
diction Act,  1890, dated 17th May  1909, entitled 
the  Northern  Nigeria  Order  in  Council,  1909, 
making  provision for Appeals  to His Majesty in 
Council  from  the  Supreme  Court  of  Northern 
Nigeria. 

Copy  of  two  Orders  in  Council  under  the 
Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act,  1865, 
dated 17th May  1909. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by the Lords, 
one  of  their Clerks,  as followeth : 

The Lords have agreed to the Ards  Railways Ards Railways 

Bill, without any Amendment. 

BiU-

The Lords have agreed to the Land Drainage Land 
Provisional  Order Bill, with  an Amendment;  to Drainage 
which the  Lords desire the  concurrence  of  this order BUI, 
House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled An Education 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

East  India 
(Income and 
Expenditure.) 
No. 165. 

Mr.  Buchanan  presented, — Return  to  an 
Address  to  His  Majesty, dated the 19th day of 
this instant May, for  a  Return  relative to East 
India (Income and Expenditure). 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Irish  Land 
Act, 1903. 

No. 166. 

Mr.  Birrell presented,—Return  to  an  Order, 
dated  the  11th  day  of  this  instant  May,  for 
Returns relative to the Irish Land Act,  1903. 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table  ;  and be printed. 

VOL.  164. 

Act  to confirm a Provisional Order made by the 
Board  of  Education  under the  Education  Acts, order 
1870  to  1907,  to  enable  the  London  County Confirmation 
Council  to put  in force the Lands Clauses Acts  : (London, 
  of No. 1) Bill 
to which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence
[Lords,]
this House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An Education 

Act  to confirm a Provisional Order made by the 
Board  of  Education under  the  Education  Acts, order 
1870  to  1907,  to  enable  the  London  County Confirmation 
Council  to put  in force the Lands Clauses Acts; 
to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of [i^.J,,.]1 
this House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled An Education 

Act  to confirm certain  Provisional  Orders made ®oard. 
by the  Board of Education under the Education Orders0"3, 

C  c  2 

Public 

Petitions. 

Vide Third 

Report. 

Aliens Act, 

1905. 


Foreign 

Jurisdiction 

Act, 1890.  


Naval and 
Mariue Pay 
and  Pensions 
Act,  1865. 

196 

15th June. 

1909.  [No. 75. 

Confirmation
Bmtiw^l

1  L

  Acts,  1870  to  1907,  to  enable  the Councils,  of  the Urban Districts  of Stourbridge and Lye and 
-Administrative  Counties  of  Buckingham,  Wollescote,  in  the County  of Worcester, and  of 
Cornwall, Gloucester,  Montgomery, and Surrey  the  Urban  District  of  Amblecote,  and  of  the 
to  put  in  force  the  Lands  Clauses  Acts;  to  Rural District of  Kingswinford, in the County of 
which the Lords  desire  the concurrence  of  this  Stafford ;  and  to  transfer  to  and  vest  in  such 
House. 

Board the undertaking of the Stourbridge Water­
works Company, Limited ;  and  to authorise  the 
Board  to  construct  additional  waterworks., and 
for other  purposes ;  to which  the  Lords  desire 

Gas Orders
fNo^Kli11
[Lords.]  1

The  Lords  have  passed a  Bill,  intituled  An 
  certain  Provisional  Orders made 

c o n^ r m

Gas Orders
fNo^BilT
[Lords.]  1

by  the  Board  of  Trade  under  the  Gas  and the concurrence  of this House. 
Water  Works  Facilities Act,  1870,  relating  to 
Bideford Gas,  Bude  Gas,  Comber  Gas,  Comp-
stall  Gas,  and  Hayfield  Gas;  to  which  the 
Lords desire the concurrence  of this House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An Manchester 
Act  to  confer  further  powers  upon  the  Lord y?^?]?^11 
Mayor,  Aldermen, and  Citizens  of  the  City  of  1  ^  or  ^
Manchester with reference to the construction of 
The  Lords have  passed a  Bill,  intituled  An  street  works,  tramways,  and  sewerage  works, 
  Act  to confirm certain Provisional  Orders made  and  otherwise  for  the  better  local  government 
by  the  Board  of  Trade  under  the  Gas  and and improvement  of the city ;  to extend the city, 
WaterWorks  Facilities  Act,  1870,  relating  to  and  for  other  purposes;  to  which  the  Lords 
Brough, Elloughton, and District  Gas, Langley  desire the concurrence of this House. 
Mill.and  Heanor Gas, Long  Eaton  Gas, Settle 
Gas, and  Sutton  and  Hooton  District  Gas ;  to 
which the  Lords  desire the concurrence  of  this  Act  to dissolve University  College, Bristol, and University 
House. 
to transfer all the property and liabilities  of that BlU U'Wds.] 
College  to  the  University  of  Bristol,  and for 
other purposes ;  to which  the Lords  desire  the 
concurrence of this House. 

The  Lords  have  passed a  Bill,  intituled  An 
  Act  to confirm certain  Provisional Orders  of the 
  Local  Government  Board  for  Ireland  relating 

Local
Government
Provisional
Orders (No.  l)  to the Rural Districts of Castlereagh, Middleton,  The  Lords  have passed  a  Bill, intituled  An  Gateshead and 
Bill [Lords,] a n (j  j\jaas (No.  1), and  the  Foranwell  Drainage 
District,  in  the  County  of  Kildare;  to  which 
the Lords desire the concurrence of this House. 

Act  to  authorise  the  Gateshead  and  District ^j®trict 

Tramways  Company  to  construct  additional  BiiTfXwrAs.]  

tramways,  and  for  other  purposes ;  to  which  

the Lords desire the concurrence  of  this  House.  


The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An Bristol 

Local 
The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Government  Act  to confirm certain Provisional  Orders  of the 
(Ireland) 
Provisional  Local  Government  Board  for  Ireland  relating 
Orders (No.  2)  t o  the  City  of  Dublin,  the  Londonderry  Port 
Bill [Lords.]  g a n i t a r  y  Authority, and  the Urban  District  of 
Queenstown;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of this House. 

Board  of 
.Scheme1011 
(Cheshunt 
College) 
Confiimation  j 
Bill  {Loras. J 

The  Lords have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An 
Act  to confirm a Scheme approved  and certified 
by the Board  of  Education under the Charitable 
Trusts  Act,  1853,  relating  to  Cheshunt  Col-
p  , 

t  which the  Lords desire the concurrence 

TT 

o f  t h is  H o u s e. 

Electric 
The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled An 
Provisional  Act  to confirm a Provisional Order made by the 
Order (No. 2)  Board  of  Trade  under  the  Electric  Lighting 
Bill [Lords.]  Acts,  1882  and  1888,  the  Electric  Lighting 
(Scotland) Act,  1890, and the Electric  Lighting 
(Scotland)  Act,  1902, relating  to  Dunfermline 
and  district;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of this House. 

i/isbiirn 
The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An 
CounciS^  A c  t   t 0  emPower the  Urban  District  Council  of 
[Lords.]
Lisburn  to  supply gas,  and  to  provide  for  the 
transfer  Of the undertaking  of  the  Lisburn Gas 
Company, Limited,  to  the Council, and  to make 
further and  better provision with regard  to  the 
supply of water, and for the improvement, health, 
local  government,  and finance  of  the  district, 
and  for  other  purposes;  to  which  the  Lords 
desire the concurrence  of this House. 

Southport
and Lytham
(Abandon­
ment) Bill
[Lords.]

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An 
  Act for  the  abandonment  of  the  tramroad  and 
  works of  the  Southport  and  Lytham  Tramroad 
Company, the sale  of  the  lands and  property of 
the  Company, and for other purposes ;  to which 
the Lords desire the concurrence  of this House. 

North Eastern
r z o S B iU

  The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An 
  Act  to confer additional  powers upon the  North 
Eastern  Railway Company for  the construction 
of new railways and other works, and the acquisi-
tion  of  lands, and for other  purposes ;  to which 
the Lords desire the concurrence  of this House. 
Stourbridge 
The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Wat^Board  Act  to constitute and incorporate a Water Board 
Bill [Lords.]  consisting of representatives from the Councils of 

The  Lords  have  passed  a Bill, intituled  An  Taff Vale 

Act for vesting  the undertaking  of  the  Cardiff  ^way 
Railway Company and certain lands and property j>atirWay) 
of the Marquis of Bute  in the Taff Vale Railway  Vesting,'&c.) 
Company ;  for conferring further powers  on  the BiU [Lords.]
Taff  Vale  Railway  Company,  and  for  other 
purposes ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  con­
currence  of this House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An TaS Vale 

Act for vesting the undertaking  of the Rhymney Railway 
Railway  Company  in  the  Taff  Vale  Railway 
Company,  and  for  other  purposes;  to  which  Vesting,'&c.) 
the Lords desire the concurrence  of  this House. Bill [Lords.] 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An Barry 

Act  to  enable  the  Barry  Railway  Company  to  Railway Bill 
construct  railways;  to confer  powers upon  that 
Company and the Vale  of  Glamorgan  Railway 
Company,  and  for  other  purposes;  to  which 
the Lords desire the concurrence  of this House. 

ords 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendment  made by  the  Land 
Lords  to the  Land Drainage  Provisional  Order Drainage 
order^Bffl1 
Bill  be taken into consideration to-morrow. 

The  Education  Board  Provisional  Order Education 

Confirmation  (London,  No.  1) Bill [Lords]  was  Board 
read thefirst time. 

Provisional 
Order 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  Confirmation 

Examiners  of  Petitions  for Private Bills ;  and  K  0  ^  , 
be  printed. 

[Lords.] 

Bill  2 2 3. 

The  Education  Board .  Provisional  Order Education 

Confirmation  (London,  No. 2)  Bill  [Lords]  was Board 
read thefirst time. 

Provisional 
Order 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  Confirmation 
Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills ;  and  N^^Bin 
be printed. 

[Lords.] 

Bill 

22i. 

The  Education  Board  Provisional  Orders Education 

Confirmation  (Bucks,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords]  was  Board 
read thefirst time. 

Provisional 
Orders 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the Confirmation 

Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills  ;  and kmfi' 
be printed. 

8111  225. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
NO. 65.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 
Gas Orders 

The  Gas  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  1)  Bill 

^ f t i ) m B i i i n
[Lords.] 

\.Lords~]  w as  r e ad  t he  first  t i m e -

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

2Qth  May* 

197 

The  Taff  Yale  Railway  (Cardiff  Railway, Tafi Vale 

Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  the  first 
time. 

Railway, 

Bill 226.  Examiners  of  Petitions for  Private  Bills ;  and  Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the BmfESg 

be printed. 

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private Bills. 

Gas Orders
(Nofl2)Binn
[Lords.]

Bill 227.

The  Gas  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  2)  Bill 

L o r d s

[

J  was read thefirst time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
  Examiners  of  Petitions for Private  Bills ;  and 

be printed. 

The  Taff  Vale  Railway  (Rhymney  Railway, Taff Vale 
Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords']  was  read  the  first ^hymney 
time. 

Railway, 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  p j f ^ ,  ^ 

Examiners  of Petitions for Private Bills. 

Local
a?Iland) e nt
Provisional

time. 

The  Local Government  (Ireland) Provisional 
  Orders (No.  1)  Bill  [Lords'] was  read  the  first 

B m  e [ S ' . ]  1  )
Bil! 228.

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
  Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 

be printed. 

Local
(Man$ent
Provisional
Biue[^°']2)
Bill 229.

time. 

be printed. 

The Local Government  (Ireland)  Provisional 
  Orders (No.  2)  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  the  first 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
  Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills ;  and 

The  Barry  Railway  Bill  [Lords]  was  read Barry 

the first time. 

" 

Railway Bill 
[ Lords. J 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private Bills. 

Sir Luke  White reported  from  the  Committee Glamorgan 
on  the  Glamorgan  Water  Board  Bill;  That ^aterBoard 
with  regard  to  the  Instruction  of  the  House 
of  the 24th  March last the Committee  were  of 
the  opinion  that,  as  no  abstraction  of  water 
was  proposed  by the  Bill,  this was  not  a case 
in  which  any  provision  on  the  lines  indicated 
in the Instruction was required. 

Board of 
Education 
Scheme
(Cheshunt

The  Board  of  Education  Scheme (Cheshunt 
College) Confirmation Bill  [Lords]  was read the 
„ 
hrst time. 

,

C o n f i r m a t i on
Bill [Lords.]
Bill 230.

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
  Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
  be printed. 

Electric
ProvMonal
Order  (No. 2)
Bill \-Lorf ]

The  Electric  Lighting  Provisional  Order 
2 )  B i l1   [Lords]  was read thefirst time. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
  E x a m i n e rs   o f  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 

Bill 231.  b e  prints 

The  Lisburn  Urban  District  Council  Bill 

Xisbum 
Urban District  ["Xor^l  w a s  read  the first time. 
Council  Bill 
[Lords.]

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of Petitions for Private Bills. 

Soutliport and
Lytham
Tramroad
(Abandon­
merit) Bill
[Lords. J 

  The Southport and Lytham  Tramroad (Aban­
donmenO Bill  [Lords]  was read thefirst time. 

' 

. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private Bills. 

North Eastern
Railway Bill
[Lords. J 

  The North Eastern Railway Bill  [Lords]  was 
r e a ( j  t he   f j r st   time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of Petitions for Private  Bills. 

Stourbridge
Watra Board
Bill  [Lords.]

The  Stourbridge  and  District  Water  Board 

B i l1   [Lords]  was read thefirst time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be" referred  to  the 

Examiners  of Petitions for Private Bills. 

Manchester
Corporation
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Manchester  Corporation  Bill 

  w as  r e a d  thefirst time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of Petitions for Private Bills. 

Bristol
University
Bill  [Lords.] 

thefirst time. 

The Bristol University  Bill  [Lords]  was  read 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private Bills. 

Sir  Luke  White  further  reported  from  the  


Committee ;  That  they had examined  the  alle­
gations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  

and  amended  the  same  to  make  it  consistent  

with the provisions  of the Bill  as  passed  by the 

Committee,  and  found  the  same,  as  amended,  

to be true ;  and had gone through  the  Bill  and  

made Amendments thereunto.  


Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table,;  and  be printed. 


The  Municipal  Corporations  (Qualification Municipal 
of  Clergymen)  Bill  [Lords]  was read  the first Corporations 
time,  and ordered  to be read a second time upon o?ciergymen) 
Friday  the  4th  day  of  June  next;  and  to  be Bill [Lords']
Bill 232. 
printed. 

Sir 'George  Doughty reported  from  the  Com-Railway  Bills 

mittee  on  Group 3  of  Railway Bills ;  That, for  (GronP 
the convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned till Tuesday the 8th day of June next, 
at Eleven  of the clock. 

^ 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr. Henry  Joseph  Wilson reported  from  the  Public 
Select  Committee  on  Public  Petitions;  That Petitions 
they had examined the Petitions presented upon Report) 
the 29th, 30th, and 31st days  of  March last, the 
lst,  2nd,  5th,  6th,  7th,  19th,  20th,  21st, 22nd. 
23rd, 26th, 27th, 28th,  and  29th  days  of  April 
last, and the 3rd, 4th, 5th,  6th,  7th,  10th,  11th, 
12th,  13th,  14th,  17th,  18th,  19th,  20th,  and 
21st days of this instant  May,  and had directed 
him  to  make a Report thereof  to the House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

[Lords] 

Mr. Ashton reported from  the  Committee  on Railway  Bills 

Group  2  of Railway Bills ;  That,  for  the  con- (GrouP  2-> 
venience of parties, the Committee had adjourned 
till  Tuesday  the 15th day  of  June next,  at half 
an hour after Two of the clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to- Metropolitan 
Gateshead and  The  Gateshead  and  District  Tramways Bill morrow, the  Metropolitan  Ambulances  Bill  was Ambulances 
District 
Tramways 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

[Lords]  was read thefirst time. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

read, and discharged.

Bl11' 

J 

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private Bills. 

VOL.  164. 

upon Monday the 7th day  of June next, 

c  c  3 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
198 	

24 th May. 

1909.  [No. 63. 

Bishoprics  BiU  The  Bishoprics  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  the 
[.Lords.]  first  time, and  ordered  to be read a second time 
  upon Monday the 7th day  of  June next;  and to 

Bill 234.

be printed. 

TABLE. 

A . — M A N U F A C T U R E R S'  L I C E N C E S. 

Licence   to  be  taken  out 
annually. 

D u t y. 

Burial  Places 
(Exemption 
from  Kates) 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Bill 233. 

Mr. Laidlaw, supported by Mr. Eugene Wason, 
Mr.  Younger,  Mr. Finding,  Mr.  Dundas White, 
Mr.  Barnes,  and Mr.  Cleland,  presented  a  Bill 
to  amend  the  Rating  Exemptions  (Scotland) 
Act,  1874:  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be 
read  a  second time upon  Thursday the 3rd day 
of June next;  and to  be printed. 

1.	  Spirits   : — 

(a)	   B y  a  distiller  of 

D u ty  specified   in  Scale  1. 

spirits. 

( b)	   B y  a  rectifier  of 

£ 1  5  15s. 

spirits. 
2.	  Beer   : — 

B y  a	  brewer  of  beer 

Duty  specified  in  Scale  2. 

Sittings   of  the
House.

Resolved,  That this House  do meet to-morrow 
a t  Twelve  of the clock.—(The  Prime Minister.) 

Ways  and 
Means 
[12th  M a y] 
Report. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported 
from the Committee  of  Ways  and Means  of the 
12th  day  of  this  instant  May  a Resolution; 
which was read,  as followeth : 

Land  Value  Duties. 

Land  Value 
Duties. 

That  on and  after  the  thirtieth day of April 
nineteen  hundred and nine the  following  duties 
be charged in respect  of land :— 

(i)  A	  duty  on  any increment value  accruing 
after the said date  at the rate  of  one pound 
for  every fullfive pounds  of that value, the 
duty  to  be  taken  on  the  occasion  of  the 
transfer  or the grant of a lease  of  the land, 
and  on  the  occasion  of  the  death  of  any 
person  where  the  property  passing  on his 
death  comprises any such  land,  and in  the 
case of land belonging  to a body corporate or 
unincorporate on such periodical occasions  as 
Parliament may determine ; 

(ii)  A	  duty'  on  the  value  of  any  benefit 
accruing to a lessor by reason  of  the deter­
mination  of a lease at the rate  of one pound 
for every ten  pounds of that value ; 

(iii)  An  annual duty  in respect  of  the capital 
site  value  of  land which  has  not  been  de­
veloped for  building  or other  purposes, and 
the  capital  value  of  ungotten  minerals, at 
the  rate  of  one halfpenny for  every pound 
of that value. 

The  said  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time; 

And a Motion  being  made, and the Question 
being put,  That this House doth  agree  with the 
Committee  in the said Resolution; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the  Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Master  of Elibanh % 

Tell  r  f  r  th  f 

-Alexander  Acland­

rs  or  lej  Hood, 
INoes, 

[Viscount  Valentia  : 

|  256. 

I 113. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

Ways  and 
Means 
[10th  M a y] 
Report, 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported 
from  the Committee  of Ways and Means  of the 
10th  day  of  this  instant  May  a  Resolution; 
which was read,  as followeth: 

f or  sale. 

. 

B y  brewer  of  beer 
not  being  a  brewer 
for  sale. 

I f  he  is  the  occupier   of  a 
of  an  annual 
ten 
exceeding 

house 
value 
pounds  and  not  exceed­
ing  fifteen  pounds  and 
brews  solely for his  own 
domestic  use,  9s. 

In  any  other  case,  4s. 

3.	  C i d e r :— 

B y	  a  maker  for  sale 

£ 5  5s. 

of  cider. 

4.	  S w e e t s :— 

B y	  a  maker  f or  sale 

£ 5  5s. 

of  sweets. 

S C A LE   1 . 

Spirit  Distiller's  Licence. 

D u t y. 

Number   of  proof  gallons   of  spirits  distilled— 

Not  exceeding  50,000 

Exceeding  50,000— 

  10  0 

0 

For  every­   25,000  proof  gallons   or 

fraction  of  25,000  proof  gallons 

10  0  0 

S C A LE   2 . 

Licence  to  Brewer  for  Sale. 

Number   of  bulk  barrels  brewed— 

N ot  exceeding  100 

Exceeding  100  barrels— 

For  every   50  barrels  or 

fraction   of 

50  barrels 

Duty. 

fi  s.  d. 

1  0 

0 

0  12  0 

B.- W H O L E S A LE  D E A L E R S'

  L I C E N C E S. 

Licence   to  be  taken  out  annually   by  a 
wholesale  dealer  in 

1.	  Spirits 

2.	  Beer 

3.	  Cider 

4.	  W i ne 

5.	  Sweets 

Duty. 

£ 

s.  d. 

15  15 
0 
10  10  0 
5  0 
5 

10  10 

5  5 

0 

0 

C . — R E T A I L E R S'  L I C E N C E S. 

I.—On-Licences. 

Licence   to  be  taken  out 
annually   by  a  retailer  of 

Duty. 

1.	  Spirits 

(publican's 

licence). 	

Excise  Liquor Licences. 

2.	  Beer 

(beerhouse 

licence). 	

Excise  .Liquor 
Licences. 

That  on and after  thefirst day of July  nine­
teen hundred and  nine,  in  lieu of  the duties  of 
Excise  now payable  in  respect  of  the  licences 
for  the  manufacture  and  sale  of  intoxicating 
liquor, there  shall  be  charged  throughout  the 
United  Kingdom  on  the  licences  specified  in 
the following table the duties of Excise specified 
in that table. 

3.	  Cider 

4.  JVine  	

5.	  Sweets 

A  duty  equal   to  half  the 
the 

annual  value   of 
licensed  premises,  sub­
ject   to  the  minimum 
duty 
under 
payable 
Scale  3. 

A  duty  equal   to  a  third 
of  the  annual  value   of 
licensed  premises, 
the 
subject  to  the  minimum 
duty 
under 
payable 
Scale  3. 

Half  the  duty  specified   in 

Scale   4. 

D u ty  specified   in  Scale  4. 

Half  the  duty  specified   in 

Scale  4. 

 
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S C A LE   3 . 

Minimum  Duty payable for Publican's 
and Beerhouse  Licence. 
There  shall  be  a  minimum  duty payable  on 
the publican's licence and the beerhouse  licence 
respectively,  as shown  in the following scale : — 

Population. 

Minimum  Duty. 

Publican's 
Licence. 

Beerhouse 
Licence. 

person belonging  to the vessel nominated  by,the 
owner  of the vessel— 

£ 
-  10 

D u ty   of 

-

-

-

2.  Licence to  be  taken  out  in  respect  of  a  

passenger vessel  by  the master  or other  person  

belonging  to the vessel  nominated  by the owner 

of  the  vessel,  and  to  be  in  force  for  one  day  

only— 


D u ty   of 

-

-

-

-

£ 
2 

E . — R  A I L W AY  R  E S T A U R A NT   C A R  L I C E N C E S. 

£ s. 
3  10 

Licence  to  be  taken  out  annually  in  respect 
of  a  railway restaurant car by the  railway com­
pany  or other person owning the car— 

D u ty   of 

-

-

-

-

£ 
1 

-

In  urban  areas  with  a  popula-
tion  of 
less  than  2,000  and 
elsewhere  than   in  urban  areas. 

t h  -urban areas  with  a  population 

o f— 

2,000  and  less  than 

5,000 

5,000 

10,000 

50,000 

„ 

„ 

., 

10,000 

50,000 

100,000 

100,000 or  above 

-

£ 
5 

10 

15 

20 

30 

35 

6  10 

10  0 

13  0 

20  0 

23  10 

For  the purposes  of  this  scale  an  urban  area 
means  any  county  borough,  borough,  or  other 
urban  district, and  the  administrative county of 
London  shall  be  deemed  to  be  a  single  urban 
area. 

S  C A LE   4 . 

Wine  Retailer's  On-Licence, 

Annual  value   of  licensed  premises— 

Under  £ 30 

-

£ 30  and  under  £ 50 

£ 50  and  under  £ 1 00 

£ 1 00  and  over 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Duty. 

£	  «.  a. 

4  10  0 

-

-

-

6

0

9  0 

-  12  0 

 0 

0 

0 

T he  d u ty   on  a  c i d er  r e t a i l e r 's  o n - l i c e n ce  a nd 

a  s w e e ts  r e t a i l e r 's  o n - l i c e n ce  

is   t o   b e  h a lf 

t he 

d u ty  u n d er  t he  a b o ve  s c a l e. 

II.—Off-Licences. 

Licence   to  be  taken  out 
annually  by  a  retailer  of 

D u t y. 

1.  Spirits 

-

2.  Beer 

3.	  Cider 

-

4.	  W i ne 

5.	  Sweets 

-

-  D u ty  specified   in  Scale  5. 

-  D u ty  specified  in  Scale  6. 

- 

£ 2. 

-  D u ty  specified  in  Scale  6. 

- 

£ 2. 

S  C A LE   5 . 
Spirit Retailer's Off-Licence. 

Annual  value  of  licensed  premises-* 

Under  £ 30

. 

. 

. 

£ 30  and  under  £ 50 

£ 50  and  under  £ 1 00 

£ 1 00  and  over 

Duty. 

d. 

14  0 

20  0 
30  0 
50  0 

Beer Retailer's  or Wine Retailer's Off-Licence. 

S  C A LE   6 . 

Annual  value  of  licensed  premises— 

Under  £ 30 

-

£ 30  and  under  £ 50 

£ 50  and  under  £ 1 00 

£ 1 00  and  over 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Duty. 

£	 

s.  d. 

-

-

-

3  10 

5  0 

0 

0 

7  0  0 

-  10  0 

0 

F . — O C C A S I O N AL  L I C E N C E S. 

Occasional  licences  granted  under  section 
thirteen  of  the  Revenue  Act,  1862  (25  &  26 
Vict.  c. 22),  section twenty  of the Revenue Act, 
1863 (26  &  27  Vict.  c.  33),  and  section five of 
the Revenue  Act,  1864 (27  & 28  Vict.  c. 18). 

D u t i e s :— 

( a)  Sale   of  any  intoxicating  liquor—per  day,  10s. 

( b)  Sale   of  beer  or  wine  only—per  day,  5s. 

The  enactments  specified  to  have  effect 

throughout the United Kingdom. 

The said Resolution being read a second time ; 
And  a  Motion  being made, and the  Question 
being put, That this House  doth  agree with  the 
Committee  in the said Resolution ; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Master  of  Elibanh : 

259. 

m	  n 

e 

f S ir   Alexander  Acland-

1 

N  es 
' 

1
  U 0 0 <k
[Viscount  Valentia : 

[-112. 
J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 


Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported Ways and 
from the Committee  of  Ways  and Means  of  the Jl1™®  ^ 
18th  day  of  this  instant  May  several  Resolu- Report. 
tions ;  which were read,  as follow : 

Stamps. 

1.	  That  the  stamp  duties  charged  on  con- Stamps 

veyances or transfers on sale of property or leases 
shall  be double those now chargeable. 	

(Conveyances 
or  Transfers  on 
Sale  of 
Property.) 

2.  That conveyances  or transfers operating as Stamps 

voluntary dispositions inter vivos shall be charged (Conveyances 
with  stamp  duties,  calculated  on  the  value  of Voluntary 

the property conveyed  or transferred,  at the like Dispositions.) 

rates  as  those  chargeable  on  conveyances  or  

transfers  on sale. 


or  Transfers  as 

3.  That the  stamp  duties  charged  on market-stamps 

able securities transferable by delivery and share (Marketable 
warrants or stock certificates  to  bearer  shall  be Secunt]es0 
double those now chargeable. 

4.  That  in  lieu  of  the  stamp  duties  now Stamps 
chargeable  on  contract  notes  for  or  relating  to (Contract 
the sale  or purchase  of  any stock  or  marketable 
security  there  shall  be  charged  the  following 
stamp duties (that is to say) :— 

°f 

Where  the  value   of  the  stock   or marketable  security— 

I s  £ 5  and  does  not  exceed  £ 1 00 

-  Six  pence. 

Exceeds  £ 1 00  and  does  not  exceed 

£ 5 00 

-

-

-

-

-  One  shilling. 

D . — P A S S E N G ER  V E S S EL  L I C E N C E S, 

Exceeds  £ 5 00  and  does  not  exceed 

1.  Licence to  be taken out annually in respect 
of	  a  passenger  vessel  by  the  master  or  other 

VOL.  164. 

£1,000 

-
A nd  for  each  additional  £1,000   or 

-

-

-

-  T wo  shillings. 

fraction  of  £1,000 

-
C  C  4 

-

-  Two  shillings. 

 
	
 




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26th  May. 

1909. 

[No.. 65. 

5.  That  the  like  obligation  to  execute  a 
contract  note  shall  have  effect,  and  the  like 

time ; 

(.Contract 
Note,  Option 
to Purchase  or  stamp duty shall  be charged­
Deai0 

(a)  in the case of  a  contract  under  which  an 
option  is  given  to  purchase  or  sell  any 
stock  or  marketable  security  at  a future 
time  at a certain price ;  and 

(b)  in the case of  the sale  or purchase  of  any 
stock  or  marketable  security  by  a person 
who,  by  way  of  business,  deals  or  holds 
himself  out  as  dealing  as  a  principal  in 
stocks and marketable securities, 

as  in  the  case  of  the  sale  or  purchase  of any 
stock  or  marketable  security  by  a  broker  or 
agent. 

The  First  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time; 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the Question 
being put, That this House doth agree  with  the 
Committee  in the said Resolution ; 

The House divided. 

The Yeas to the  Right;  

The Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the/Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

I Mr.  Whitley -. 


Tellers  for the j" Mr. Henry  Forster,  


Noes, 

(.Lord  Balcarres: 

|  259. 

112. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The  Second  Resolution  being  read  a second 

time ; 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the Question 
being put,  That this  House doth  agree  with  the 
Committee  in the said Resolution ; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the [Captain Norton, 

[Mr.  Whitley-. 
("Sir Alexander Acland­

m ii 
lellers tor thes<j  Hood, 

Yeas, 
£ 

Noes, 

I Viscount  Valentia : 

|  274. 

1104. 
J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The  Third  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time ; 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the Question 
being put, That this  House doth  agree  with  the 
Committee  in the said Resolution  ; 

put; 

The House divided.  

The Yeas to the Right; 

The Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the J" Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

\Mr.  Whitley.  


Tellers for the f Mr, Henry  Forster,  


Noes, 

\Lord  Balcarres : 

273. 

102. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The  Fourth  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time; 

• 

And  a Motion being  made,  and  the  Question 
being put, That this  House doth agree  with  the 
Committee  in the said Resolution ; 

The  Fifth  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

And  a  Motion  being  made,  and the Question 
being put,  That this House doth agree  with  the 
Committee  in the said Resolution ; 

The House divided. 
The  Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the / Master of Elibank, 

Yeas, 

1 Captain Norton : 


Tellers for the/Lord  Edmund  Talbot,  


Noes, 

(Mr.  Pike  Pease-,  


So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 


|  254. 

I  84. 

A  Motion  was  made, and the Question being Naval Defence 

proposed,  That  this  House  would  view  with (Two-Power 
alarm  any  modification  of  the  Two-Power  Stanaard-J 
Standard  as  defined  by the Prime Minister  on 
the  12th  and  23rd  November  1908,  viz.,  a 
preponderance  of  10 per cent, over the combined 
strengths  in  capital  ships  of  the  two  next 
strongest Powers, whatever those Powers may be 
and  wherever  they  may  be  situated—(Captain 
Craig) ; 

An Amendment was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  in  1,1,  by leaving  out  from the 
word "  House "  to the end  of  the  Question, and 
adding  the  words  "  accepts with confidence the 
Statement  in regard  to the Two-Power Standard 
made  by  the  Prime  Minister"—(Sir  William 
Collins),—instead  thereof. 

.And  the Question being  put, That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the 
Question ; 

The  House divided. 
The  Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
m  „  ' 
r 
Tellers for the I 
leas, 

,i  fSir Alexander  Acland-

[Mr.  Henry  Forster : 


Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 
(Master  of  Elibank: 

Noes, 

114. 


j- 270. 

So it passed  in the Negative. 
And  the  Question  being  put,  That  those 
words  be  there added :—It  was  resolved in  the 
Affirmative. 

And  the  Main  Question,  so  amended, being 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
„ 
Tellers for the! 
JN oes, 

„ 

(Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 
,  (Sir  Alexander  Acland-


H o o df 

[Mr.  Henry  Forster : 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative, 

1 272. 

106. 


Resolved,  That  this  House accepts  with  con­
fidence  the  Statement  in  regard  to  the  Two-
Power  Standard made  by the Prime Minister. 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

\Master  of Elibank : 
rSir Alexander Acland-

Tellers for the J 
Noes, 

Hood, 

{Lord Edmund  Talbot: 

Bo  it was resolved  in the Affirmative 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Vagrancy Bill. 

Second Reading  of the Vagrancy  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday the  14th day  of June next. 

269. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Sea Fisheries 

Second Reading  of  the  Sea  Fisheries Regula- Regulation 
g™tland> 
tion (Scotland) Bill; 

93. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second time 

upon Tuesday the 15th day of June next. 

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. YII. 

26th  May.  	

201 

Hours o£ 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Hours  of Labour (Sur­
facemen)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill be read  a second time 

upon Monday the  7th day  of June next. 

The  Order  of the day being read,  for  taking 
Coal Mines
into  consideration  the  Coal  Mines  (Check-
(Check­
weighers) Bill. w e i g h e r s )  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 

Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Tuesday  the  8th  day  of  June 
next. 

Duty  in respect  of Intoxicating  Liquor  

supplied  in Clubs.  


2.  That in the year beginning  thefirst day of Duty in 
January  nineteen hundred and ten, and in every respect of 
subsequent  year, a  statement  shall  be  made of ^q™0^1118 
the receipts from intoxicating  liquor supplied in supplied in 
every club, and of  the purchases  of intoxicating Clubs, 
liquor  by the club,  during  the  preceding  year, 
and  an Excise  duty shall  be charged at the rate 
of three pence for every pound of those receipts, 
or at  a  rate  not  exceeding  six  pence  for  every 
pound of those purchases. 

The  said  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second 

Cheap  Trains 
BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Cheap Trains  Bill; 

Ordered, That theHillbe  read a second  time 

upon Monday the  14th day  of June next. 

Bank Holidays
mu"

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of the Bank Holidays  Bill; 

time, were agreed to. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported Ways  and 

from the Committee  of Ways  and Means  of  the Means 
17th  day  of  this  instant  May  several  Resolu- Report, 
tions ;  which were read, as follow: 

[17th  May] 

Income Tax. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

1.  That  Income Tax shall be charged, for the Incoihe  Tax. 

•upon Tuesday the 8th day  of June next. 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bill. 

Infant  Life 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Dogs' Protection Bill ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Friday the 4th day of June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Infant Life Protection 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Friday the 4th day  of June next. 

Ways  and 
Means 
[5th  May] 
Report. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported 
from the Committee  of  Ways  and Means of  the 
5th day of this instant May  a Resolution;  which 
was read,  as followeth: 

Tea. 

Tea. 
That  the Customs  duty now charged  on  tea 
shall continue to  be charged  until  the first day 
of  July  nineteen  hundred  and  ten  (that  is  to 

-

Tea 
The said Resolution, being read a second time, 

-  Five  pence. 

the  lb. 

- 

-

was agreed to. 

Ways  and 
Means 
[11th  May] 
Report. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported 
from the Committee  of Ways and  Means  of  the 
11th  day  of  this  instant  May  several  Resolu­
tions ;  which were read,  as follow : 

Beer— 
Customs. 

Beer—Customs. 

1.  That  in  addition  to the  duties  of Customs 
now payable on beer imported into Great Britain 
.or Ireland there shall,  on and after the eleventh 
day  of  May  nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  be 
charged the following duties (that is to say) :— 

In the case of  beer called  or  similar  to mum, 
spruce, black beer,  or Berlin  white beer, or 
other  preparations,  whether  fermented  or 
not fermented,  of a similar character— 

For  every  thirty-six  gallons,  where  the 
worts  thereof  are,  or were  before  fer­
mentation,  of a specific gravity— 

8. d. 

Not  exceeding  one  thousand  two  hundred 
-

and  fifteen  degrees,  a  duty  of 

-

Exceeding  one 

thousand 

and  fifteen  degrees,  a  duty   of 

two  hundred 
-

-

1  0 

1  2 

In the case  of  every description of  beer other 

than that above specified— 

For  every  thirty-six  gallons,  where  the 
4  worts thereof were, before fermentation, 
of  a  specific  gravity  of  one  thousand 
^  and fifty-five degrees, a  duty  of  three 
pence,  and  so  in  proportion  for  any 
difference in gravity. 

*	 

Y O L.  164. 

year beginning  the  sixth  day  of April nineteen 
hundred and nine, at the rate of one shilling and 
two pence in the  pound, and that  an  additional 
duty  of  Income Tax  at  the rate of  six pence  in 
the  pound  be  charged  in  respect  of  incomes 
which  exceed  five  thousand  pounds  on  every 
pound  of  the  amount  by  which  the  income 
exceeds three thousand pounds. 

2.  That  no  exemption,  abatement,  or  relief  Income  Tax 
under  the Income Tax  Acts  shall  be  given  to (no  Exemp­
tion  to  Persons 
any person who is not ordinarily resident  in the not  resident  in 
United Kingdom.  	

the  United 
Kingdom.) 

The  First  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time ; 

And a Motion  being made, and  the Question 
being put,  That this House  doth agree with the 
Committee  in the said Resolution; 

The  House divided. 

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The  Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

\ Mr. Herbert Lewis i 


j  285. 
Tellers for the J Mr.  Henry  Forster,  
 J 104. 

(Lord Edmund  Talbot  

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

The Second Resolution, being  read  a  second  


Noes, 

time, was agreed to. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported Ways and 

from the Committee  of Ways  and  Means  of  the 
20th  day  of  this  instant  May  several  Resolu- Report, 
tions ;  which were read,  as follow : 

Death Duties. 

I.  That  in  the  case  of  persons  dying  on  or Death Duties 
after the  thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen  hun- (Estate Duty, 
dred and nine there  shall  be  substituted for the 
rates of  estate duty set out in the First Schedule 
to the Finance Act, 1907, the following rates 

Where  the principal  value  of  the  Estate 

Estate  Duty  

shall be  payable  

at the  rate  per 
cent. Of 

Exceeds 

100 and does  not 
exceed 

500 
1,000 
5,000 
10,000 
20,000 
40,000 
70,000 
100,000 
150,000 
200,000 
400,000 
600,000 
800,000 
1,000,000 

D  D 

£ 

500 
1,000 
5,000 
10,000 
20,000 
40,000 
70,000 
100,000 
150,000 
200,000 
400,000 
600,000 
800,000 
1,000,000 

-

1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
& 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 

 
 
 
 
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l — 2 7 f t-

M a y . 

Death  Duties 
(Settlement 
Estate  Duty.) 

Death  Duties 
(Legacy  or 
Succession 
Duty.) 

2.  That  in  the  case  of  persons  dying  on  or 
after the thirtieth day of April nineteen hundred 
and nine settlement estate duty shall  be charged 
at a rate double that at which it  is  now charge­
able,  and  that  for  the  purpose  of  any claim  to 
relief from  estate  duty under  subsection  (2)  of 
section five or subsection (1)  of  section  twenty-
one  of  the  Finance  Act,  1894,  in  the  case  of 
persons  dying  on  or  after  the  thirtieth  day  of 
April nineteen  hundred and nine, payment  of or 
liability  to duty (whether the  payment  is  made 
or the liability  attached before, on,  or after that 
date) in respect  of settled property  on the death 
of  a person (other  than the  settlor)  who  was  at 
the  time  of  his  death,  or had  been  at any time 
during the  continuance  of  the  settlement, com­
petent  to  dispose  of  the  settled  property  shall 
not  be deemed to be a payment of or liability  to 
duty  in respect  of settled property. 

3.  That after the thirtieth  day  of  April  nine­

teen hundred and nine— 

1.	  Any legacy or succession duty now payable 
at  the  rate  of  three  per  cent,  shall  be 
payable  at  the  rate  of  five  per  cent.,  and 
any legacy  or  succession  duty now payable 
at the rate  of five per cent,  or  six per cent, 
shall be payable  at the rate of ten per cent.; 
2.	  Legacy  and  succession  duty  payable  at 
the  rate  of  one  per  cent, under the Stamp
Act,  1815,  and  the  Succession  Duty  Act,
1853, respectively,  or  any other  Act,  shall 
be  charged,  notwithstanding  any  repeal 
effected  by  or  anything  contained  in  any
other Act,  and the duty shall  be charged in 
the case  of  husbands or wires  as in the case 
of lineal ancestors  or descendants; 

for every motor bicycle  or motor tricycle a duty 
of one  pound,  and for  every other  motor  car a 
duty  at the following rates, calculated in accord­
ance with horse-power :— 

Horse-power. 	

Duty. 

-

Under 6J 
-
6i,  hut  under  12 
16
„ 
12 
26
„ 
16 
33
„ 
26 
40 
„ 
33 
60 
40 
„ 
-
60 and over -

-
-

  . 

-

-

-

. 
. 

. 
. 
. 

. 
. 
. 

-

-

-
. 

Two guineas. 
Three guineas. 
.  Four guineas. 
.  Six guineas. 
- Eight guineas. 

.  - Ten guineas. 

Twenty guineas. 
, Forty  guineas. 

That the duty under this Resolution shall not 
extend  to  motor  cars  which  are  charged  with 
duties  as  hackney carriages  under  the  Customs 
and Inland Revenue Act,  1888,  or to motor ears 
which  are  not  carriages  within  the  meaning 
of  that  Act;  and  that  the unit  of  horse-power 
for the  purpose  of  the  duty  shall  he calculated 
in  accordance  with  regulations  made  by  the 
Treasury for the purpose. 

Amendment  of Law. 

7.  That  it  is  expedient  to  amend  the  Law Amendment  of 

relating  to  National Debt,  Customs, and Inland Law* 
Revenue  (including  Excise). 

The  First  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time; 

And a Motion being  made, and  the Question 
being put,  That  this House doth  agree with the 
Committee  in the  said Resolution; 

Death  Duties 
(Extension  of 
Period.) 

the Resolution to take effect in the case of legacy
duty only where the  testator  by whose  will  the 
legacy  is given,  or the intestate  on  whose death 
the legacy duty is payable, dies  on  or  after the 
thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen  hundred  and 
nine,  and  in  the  case  of  a  succession  arising
through  devolution  by  law  only  where  the 
succession arises  on  or after that date, and in the 
case  of  a  succession  arising  under  a  disposition 
only if the first succession  under  the disposition 
arises  on or after that date. 

4.  That  in  the  case  of  p.ersons  dying  on  or 
after the thirtieth day  of April nineteen hundred 
and  nine  five  years  shall  be  substituted  for 
twelve months  as the period preceding the death 
of  the  deceased  before  which  a  disposition 
purporting  to operate  as an immediate gift inter 
vivos,  or  a  surrender,  assurance,  divesting,  or 
disposition, must have  been made  or  effected  in 
order  that  the  property  taken  under  the  dis­
position,  or affected by the surrender,  assurance, 
divesting,  or disposition, may not  be included as 
property passing  on the death  of the deceased. 

Death  Duties 
(Property
Valuation.) 

5.  That  in  the  case  of  persons  dying  on  or 
after  the  thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen  hun­
dred and nine— 

(1)  no reduction shall be made in the estimate 
of the principal value  of any property under 
subsection  (5)  of  section  seven  of  the 
Finance Act,  1894,  on  account  of  the esti­
mate  being  made  on  the  assumption  that 
the whole  of the property is  to  be placed on 
the market  at one and the same time; 

(2)  the	  limitation  on  the  estimate  of  the 
principal  value  of  agricultural  property
under the same subsection shall cease. 

Motor Cars, 

Motor  Cars. 

6.  That  in lielieuu  ooff  ananyy  ExcisExcisee  duties  now 
payable for  motor  cars  there  shall  be  charged, 
both  in Great Britain and  Ireland,  in each year, 

The  House divided. 

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The  Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for the/ Mr, Herbert  Lewis,  


Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton:  

Tellers for the f Mr. Pike Pease, 


225.

104.

Noes, 

(Marquess  of Hamilton 
So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
The  Second Resolution  being  read  a second 

time; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and the Question 
being put, That this House doth  agree with the 
Committee  in the said Resolution ; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Herbert Lewis, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Pike  Pease, 

|  274.

1 j^g.


Noes, 

(Marquess  of Hamilton'. ) 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The  Third  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time; 

And a Motion  being  made, and the Question 
being put, That this House doth  agree with the 
Committee  in the said Resolution; 

The House proceeded  to a Division. 

Thursday, 27th May  1909 : 

The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left 
Tellers for the/Mr. Herbert  Lewis, 

Yeas, 

"(Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the fMr. Pike Pease, 


Noes, 

\Marquess  of Hamilton 

^ 266.

J l O l.

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

 
 
NO. M I  9  EDW.  YII. 

26th—27th  May. 

The Fourth Resolution  being  read  a  second 

Tobacco. 

time ; 

And a Motion  being  made, and  the Question 
being put, That this House  doth  agree with the 
Committee in the said Resolution ; 

The House divided. 
The  Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for the]" Mr. Herbert Lewis, 

Yeas, 

1. Captain Norton : 
Tellers for the/Lord  Balcarres, 

Noes, 

l_Mr.  Henry  Forster  : 

|  260. 

\ 100. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The  Fifth  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

3.  That  in  lieu of the duties of  Customs now Tobacco 
payable  on tobacco imported  into Great  B r i t a in  ( ^ e r a t i on   of 
of  Ireland  there shall,  on and after the thirtieth DUties.) 
day  of  April  nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  be 
charged the following duties (that  is to say) :— 
8.  d.

U p on  t o b a c co  u n m a n u f a c t u r e d,  viz.  :•— 

Containing  ten  pounds   or more  of  moisture 
in  every  ono  hundred  pounds  weight 
t h e r e o f—

-Unstripped 
Stripped 

-
-

-
-

-
-

- 
- 

the  lb.  3  8 
the  lb.  3   8§ 

Containing  less than ten  pounds  of  moisture 
in  every  one  hundred  pounds  weight 
thereof— 

Unstripped 

-

-

-

- 

the  lb.  4  1 

time; 

- 
And a Motion  being  made, and the Question  Upon  tobacco  manufactured,  v i z . :  — 
- 
- 
- 

being put, That this House  doth agree with the 
Committee  in the said Resolution ; 

-
Cigars 
Cigarettes 
-
Cavendish  or  Negrohead 
Cavendish  or  Negrohead  manufactured   in 

Stripped 

-
-
-

-
-

-
-

-

-

-

-

0 
the  lb.  7 
the  lb.  5 
8 
the  lb.  5  4

the  lb.  4  1J 

The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Herbert  Lewis, 

Yeas, 

\Captain  Norton : 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Pike  Pease, 

1 

Noes, 

\ Marquess of  Hamilton :  J 

94. 

bond 

the  lb.  4 

Other  manufactured  tobacco 
Snuff  containing  more than thirteen  pounds 
of  moisture in  every  one hundred  pounds 
weight  thereof  - 

- 

the  lb.  4 

the  lb.  4 

8 

8

5 

252. 

Snuff  not  containing  more  than  thirteen 
pounds of  moisture  in  every  one  hundred 
pounds  weight  thereof 

- 

-

the  lb.  5  4

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
4.  That  in lieu  of  the  duties  of  Excise now Tobacco 
The  Sixth  and  Seventh  Resolutions,  being  payable  on tobacco grown in Ireland there shall, (Ireland) 

read a second time, were agreed to. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The House was moved, That  the  Resolutions 

which  were  reported  from  the  Committee  of 
"Ways  and  Means, and agreed  to  by the House 
on  the 24th and 25th  days  of  this  instant  May, 
might  be  read ;  and  the  same  were  read,  as 
follow: 

Spirits. 

Spirits 
(Additional 
Customs 
Duties.) 

1.  That  in addition  to the duties of  Customs 
now  payable  on  spirits  imported  into  Great 
Britain or  Ireland  there shall,  on and  after the 
thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen  hundred  and 
nine, be charged the following  duties (that  is to 

For  every  gallon  computed   at  proof  of 
spirits  of  any  description  except  perfumed 
-
spirits 

-
For  every  gallon   of  perfumed  spirits 

« 
-

-

-

-

-

For 

every  gallon   of 

liqueurs,  cordials, 
mixtures,  and  other  preparations  entered 
in  such  a  manner  as  to  indicate  that  the 
strength  is  not   to  be  tested 

-

" 39 
6 

0 

- 5  5 

and the duties  of  Customs  on  the articles here­
after mentioned, being  articles  in  which  spirit 
is  contained,  or  in  the  manufacture  of  which 
spirit is used,  shall be proportionately  increased, 
and shall be as follows :— 

C h l o r al  h y d r a te 

C h l o r o f o rm 

C o l l o d i on 

E t h er  acetic 

E t h er  b u t y r ic 

E t h er  Isulphurie 

E t h y l,  i o d i de   o f 

E t h yl  b r o m i de 

- 

- 

- 

- 

- 

- 

- 

- 

the  lb. 

the  lb. 

£  g.  d. 

0 

1  9 

0  4 

4 

the  lb. 

the  gallon 

the  gallon  1  14  11 
0  2  1 
1  10 
1 
the  gallon  1  16  6 
the  gallon  0  19 
the  lb. 
0  1  5 
the  gallon  1  1  10 

0 

- 

E t h yl  c h l o r i de 
2,  That  in addition  to the duty of  Excise now 
payable  for  every  gallon  computed  at  proof  of 
spirits  distilled  in  the  United  Kingdom  there 
shall,  on  and  after  the  thirtieth  day  of  April 
nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  be  charged  the 
following  duty (that  is  to say) : — 

For every gallon  of spirits computed  at proof  3  9 

s. d. 

and  so on in proportion for any less quantity. 

VOL.  164. 

Spirits 
(Additional 
Excise  Duty,) 

on and after  the thirtieth day  of  April nineteen alteration of0 
hundred  and  nine,  be  charged  the  following 
duties (that  is to say) : — 

Upon  tobacco  unmanufactured,  v i z . :— 

s. d. 

Tobacco  containing  ten  pounds   or  more  of 
moisture  in  every  one  hundred  pounds 
-
weight  thereof  -

- 

-

the  lb.  3  6 

Tobacco  containing  less  than  ten  pounds   of 
moisture  in  every  one  hundred  pounds 
weight  thereof  - 

the  lb.  3  11 

Upon  tobacco  manufactured,  viz.   : — 

-

-

- 

bond

4  8 

Cavendish  or  Negrohead  manufactured   in 
the  lb. 
-

-
and that duties  of Excise  at the same rates shall 
be  charged  on  tobacco  grown  in  England  or 
Scotland, and that  there shall  be  charged  on a 
licence to  be taken out  annually  by  every per­
son  growing,  cultivating,  or  curing  tobacco  in 
England  or  Scotland  an  Excise  duty  of five 
shillings. 

Motor Spirit. 

5.  That  there  shall  be  charged  on  motor Motor Spirit 
spirit,  on  and  after  the  thirtieth  day  of  April (Customs and 
nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  a  Customs  import Excise  Duties,) 
duty  of  three pence per gallon, and on and after 
thefirst day of June nineteen hundred and nine, 
an  Excise  duty  of  the  like  amount;  and  that 
there  shall  be  charged,  on  and  after  the  last-
mentioned  date,  on  a  licence  to  be  taken  out 
annually by a manufacturer  of  motor  spirit, an 
Excise  duty  of  one  pound, and  on a licence to 
be  taken  out  annually  by  a  dealer  in  motor 
spirit  an Excise duty  of five shillings. 

Ordered,  That  a Bill  be brought  in  upon the  Finance, 

said  Resolutions,  and  upon  the  Resolutions 
reported  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 
Means,  and  agreed  to  this  day :  And  that  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means, Mr.  Chancellor 
of the Exchequer,  and  Mr,  Hobhouse  do prepare 
and bring it in. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer  accordingly Finance Bill, 
presented  a  Bill  to  grant  certain  Duties  of  Bill 235. 
Customs and Inland Revenue (including Excise), 
to  alter  other  Duties,  and  to  amend  the  Law 
relating  to  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue  (in­
cluding Excise) and  the  National Debt,  and  to 

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2(>th—21th  May. 

19199.  [No. 66. 

make other provisions  for  thefinancial arrange- •Standing  Orders  which  are  applicable  thereto thereto 
complied 
ments of the year:  And the same  was  read  the have been complied with, viz.:— 
with.) 
first time,  and  ordered to be read a second time 
upon Monday the 7th day of June next;  and to 
be printed. 

Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 

(No.  5) Bill. 

Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Board 
of Agriculture and Fisheries Bill; 

(No.  6)  Bill. 

Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 

(No.  7)  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bills  be read a second time 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second time upon Thursday next. 

upon Thursday the 3rd day  of June next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  take  into  consideration  the  Amendment  made drainage 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster  by the Lords  to the Land Drainage Provisional orte Bill. 
General Bill ; 

Order Bill;  and  the  same was  twice  read, and 
agreed to. 

The  House, according  to Order,  proceeded  to Land 

Secretary  of 
the  Board  of 
Agriculture 
and Fisheries 
Bill. 

Assistant 
Postmaster 
General Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Thursday the 3rd day  of June next. 

Superannua­
tion  Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Superannuation  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Thursday the 3rd day  of June next. 

Customs and
inland
Revenue  Bill,

  t , 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 

T>»n 

•

Revenue  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Thursday the 3rd day  of June next. 

Supply 
[27th  April] 
Report, 

The Order  of the day being read, for receiving 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 27th day  of  April last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

Supply 
[22nd  March] 
Report 
(Deferred 
Resolution.) 

The  Order of  the  day being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the Sixth  of  the  Resolutions 
which,  upon  the 23rd  day  of  March  last, were 
reported from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the 
22nd day of March last ; 

Ordered, That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

into further consideration this day. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Ways  and 
Means, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 

Committee  of Ways  and Means; 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 
the Lords ;  and acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendment  made  by their 
Lordships. 

way Bill was read the third time and passed. 

The Kilkenny,  Castlecomer,  and  Athy. Rail- Kilkenny, 
^d  Athy"' 
Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to Railway  Bill, 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence, 

The  Oldham  Corporation  Bill  was  read  the Oldham  


third time and passed. 

.  «°rp°™tion 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry the , Bill to 


the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  	the  Pontypool  Gas 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pontypool  Gas 
Water  Bill  [Lords]  ; 

a rt A  and  Water 

Bill  [I.ords.1  . 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon  Thursday next. 

Ordered,  That  Standing  Order  128  be  sus-  Barry 

pended, and  the  time  for  depositing  Petitions,  F f ^N  BiU 
praying  to  be heard  against  the Barry Railway Taff Vai'e  ' 
Bill  [Lords],  the  Taff  Yale  Railway  (Cardiff  Railway 
Railway,  Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords],  and  the. ^ i ff 
Taff Vale Railway (Rhymney Railway, Vesting, vesting/&c.) 
&c.)  Bill [Lords],  be  extended  to  Monday  the Bill 
14th day  of June  next. —  (The  Deputy  Chair- * n a ™ Vale 
m a n .) 

(Rhymney 
Railway, 
Vesting, &c.) 
Bill  [Lords.] 
The  House, according  to Order, proceeded  to Musselburgh 
take  into  consideration  the  Musselburgh  Gas confirmation 
Order Confirmation Bill. 

[Lords],

Bill. 

. 

, 

, 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read the third time 

upon Thursday next. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of 
the  clock  on  Wednesday  evening,  Mr. 
Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without 
Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing 
Order, it being then twenty-seven minutes 
after Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Thursday 
morning, till this day. 

Ordered, That Mr.  Speaker  do issue his War-  Limerick 

rant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown  in Ireland,  to 
make  out  a  new  Writ  for  the  electing  of  a Limerick) 
Member  to serve  in  this present Parliament for Writ, 
the County  of  Limerick (East  Limerick),  in the 
room  of  William  Lundon, Esquire, deceased.— 
(Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien.) 

[No.  66.] 

Thursday,  21th May  1909. 

The House met at Twelve  of the clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

Provisional 
Order  Bills 
(Standing 
Orders 
applicable 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon the  Table,—Report 

from one of the Examiners  of  Petitions for 
irivate  Bills, That in the  case  of  the following 
! Jills, referred on the  First Reading thereof, the 

Table. 

Several Public  Petitions were  presented, and Public 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

-	 

vide Third 
Report, 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His Fishery Board 

Majesty's Command,—Copy  of  Twenty-seventh (Scotland.) 
Annual  Report  of  the  Fishery Board for Scot­
land, being for the year 1908.  Part I.,  General 
Report. 

Copy  of Report  of the Inspector for  Scotland  Inebriates 

under the Inebriates Acts for the year 1908. 

fscotland.) 

Ordered?  That  the said Papers do lie upon the 

 
 


Np. 66.]  9Emv.  VII. 

21th  May.—3rd  June. 

Aliens  Act, 
1905.  .  	

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Third  Annual 
Report  of  His  Majesty's  Inspector  under  the 
Aliens  Act  (Part  I.),  and  a  Statement  with 
regard to the expulsion  of  Aliens  (Part  II.),  in 
respect of the year 1908. 

Copy  of  Report  of  the Royal Commission  on 
Shipping 
Kings  (Royal  Shipping Rings,  with Minutes  of  Evidence  and 
Commission.) 
Appendices.  Vol.  IV.,  Minutes  of  Evidence 
(Days  20  to, 36).  Vol.  V.,  Report  of  Sub-
Commission  upon  Evidence  taken  in  South 
Africa, with  Minutes  of  Evidence  and Appen­
dices. 

Copy of Appendix  to the Report  of the Royal 
Poor  Laws  ' 
and  Relief  of  Commission  on  the  Poor  Laws  and  Relief  of 
Distress 
Distress.  Vol.  II.,  Minutes  of  Evidence  (Days 
(Royal 
Commission.)  35 to 48), with Appendix. 

Ordered, That the said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His 
Board of 
Agriculture  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Annual  Report 
and  Fisheries,  of  Proceedings  under  the  Sale  of  Food  and 
Drugs  Aets,  1875  to  1907,  the  Merchandise 
Marks  Acts,  1887  to  1894,  and  other Acts, for 
the year 1908. 
-  Sir Edward  Strachey also presented,—Return 
No. 168.  to  an Order, dated  the  26th  day  of  this  instant 

Tuberculosis, 

May, for a Return relative  to Tuberculosis. 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table;  and that the said Return  be printed. 

National 
Portrait 
Gallery. 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  by  His - Majesty's 
Command, —  Copy  of  Fifty - second  Annual 
Report  of the Trustees  of  the  National Portrait 
Gallery,  1908-9. 

Sinking 
Funds. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  also  presented, pursuant  to  the 
dilutions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Account 
No. 169, 	 of  the  Commissioners  for  the Reduction  of  the 
National  Debt,  showing  the  amount  received 
from  the  Exchequer  in  respect  of  the old and 
new Sinking Funds  in  thefinancial year ended 
31st March 1909 ;  also of the particular applica­
tion thereof, pursuant to Section 7 of the Sinking 
Fund Act,  1875, 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table;  and  that  the  Paper relative  to Sinking 
Funds be printed. 

Secretary  Sir Edward  Grey presented, by His 
Majesty's Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  and 
Consular Reports', Annual  Series,  No. 4233. 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 
Trade Reports  Copy  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, 
s  S 

S Miscellaneous  Series,  No. 677. 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Leaseholds 
S^Billl86"  chisement)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Wednesday the 9th day  of June next. 

the  Leaseholds  (Enfran­

Ordered,  That 

Local 
Ordered, That the  adjourned  Debate  on  the 
£ ~ o  n  Question  proposed  upon  the  7th  day  of  this 
(England and  instant May,  lhat the Local  Government Quali-
Wales) Bill,  fication  (England  and  Wales)  Bill  be now read 
a  second  time,  be  resumed  upon  Tuesday the 
8th day  of June next. 

Ordered, That  the Cruelty  to Animals (No. 3) Cruelty  to 
Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon Monday  the(No^Bill. 
7th day  of June next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Small  Holdings  Bill  be  Small 

read a second time upon Thursday next. 

BmdmSa 

Viscount  Morpeth,  supported  by  Mr.  Ernest Firearms 

Lamb, Mr. Jesse Collings,  Mr.  Watt, Mr.  Parhes, C^o^nc^and 
Sir Francis Lowe,  Earl  Winterton,  Sir  Benjamin  r 
Stone, and Mr.  Middlemore,  presented  a  Bill  to 
regulate  the  sale  of  Firearms  in  Scotland and 
Ireland :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to be read 
a  second  time  upon  Wednesday the  9th day  of 
June next;  and to  be printed. 

0„fi  ' 

Ordered, That the  Proceedings  on the Motion Business  of 
relating  to  the  Whitsuntide Adjournment halve the House 
precedence  this  day of  the  Business  of  Supply. 
—(The Prime Minister.) 

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn Adjournment 
till  Thursday the 3rd day  of  June next.—(The  (Whitsuntide.) 
Prime Minister.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­
tinued  to sit till two minutes after Six  of 
the  clock,  adjourned  till  Thursday  the 
3rd day  of June next. 

[No.  67.] 

Thursday,  3rd June 1909. 

The House met at a quarter  of  an hour 

before Three of the clock. 


P R A Y E R S. 

THE  House proceeded  to take  into considera- Eastbourne 

tion  the  Amendments  made  by  the  LordsGas  Bil1,  


to the Eastbourne Gas Bill;  and the same were 

twice read, and agreed to. 


Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to  

the Lords;  and  acquaint them  that  this House 

hath  agreed  to the Amendments  made  by their  

Lordships. 


Ordered, That  the  Central  London  Railway Central  

London 
Railway  Bill, 

Bill  be read the third time to-morrow. 

The  Dudley  Corporation  Bill  [Lords']  was  Dudley  


read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amend- Corporation  

ments.

Bill  [Zords.]
3 

L 

' 

,	

r

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them that  this House 
hath agreed  to the same, with Amendments;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

The Holywood  Tramways  Bill  was  read  the Holywood 
Tramways 

third time and passed. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The Hull and Barnsley Railway  Bill was read Hull and 

the third time and passed. 

Railway BiU. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Theatres arid 
Ordered,  That the Theatres  and Music Halls 
Music Halls  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Monday the 
BiU. 

7th day  of June next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Midland  Railway  Bill  Midland  


[Lords]  be read the third time to-morrow. 

f S i  y ] B m 

Law  of Murder  Ordered, That  the  Law  of  Murder (Amend­
(Araendment)  m e a t )  Bill  be  read a second time upon Monday 

the 7th day  of June next. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Sligo and Arigna Railway  Bill was  read Sligo and 

the third time and passed. 

R^wty Bill, 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

' 

D  i)  3  ; 

' 

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206 

3rd  June. 

1909.  [No. 

Grantham 
Water  Bill 
[hards.] 

The House proceeded  to take  into considera­
tion  the  Grantham  Water  Bill  [Zorrfs],  as 
amended  in the Committee. 

Stock 
Conversion 
and  Invest­
ment  Trust 
(North  „ 
Eastern 
Railway 
Consols)  Bill 
[Lords.]
Worksop 
Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

And Amendments were made to the Bill. 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read the third time. 

The House proceeded  to  take  into considera­
tion  the  Stock  Conversion  and  Investment 
Trust  (North  Eastern  Railway  Consols)  Bill 
[Lords]. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The House proceeded  to take  into  considera­
[Lords],  as 

tion  the  WorksOp  Water  Bill 
amended in the Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Copy  of  Summary  of  Returns  under  the Factories and 

Factory  and  Workshop  Act,  1901,  of  persons Workshops.) 
employed  in  1907 in Textile Factories (including 
Statistics  of  Marriage-state  of  Women  over 
eighteen). 

Copy  of  Report  to the Secretary  of  State  for Explosions 

the  Home  Department  on  the  circumstances 
attending  an  Explosion  of  Detonators  at  the company, 
Factory  of  the  Cotton  Powder  Company,  at Upiees 
Uplees Marshes, Faversham,  on  the  1st  April ^ ^ a  m ^ 
11909« 

Copy of Appendix to the Report  of  the Royal Poor Laws 
of 

Commission  on  the  Poor  Laws  and  Relief  of 
Distress.  Vol.  XVII.,  Report  by  Miss  O o n - ^ ^f 
stance  Williams  and  Mr.  Thomas Jones  on the Commission.) 
effect  of  Outdoor  Relief  on  Wages  and  the 
Conditions  of Unemployment. 

. 

Copy  of Report,  No. 598  (Gibraltar,  Annual Colonial 


MelhwoM and  Ordered,  That  the  Methwold  and  Feltwell 
Feltwell 
Drainage  Bill  [Lords]  be  read  a  second  time 
Bi^DZmfc.]  upon Tuesday next. 

Report for  1908).  


port in the  Colonies. 

Copy of Papers relating  to Mechanical Trans- Mechanical 

Transport  to 
the  Colonies. 

Southend-
on-Sea 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Southend -  on - Sea  Corporation  Bill 
[Lords]  was read a second time, and committed. 

Wakefield

Corporation

Bill  [Lords.] 

The Wakefield  Corporation  Bill  [Lords]  was 

  read a second time, and committed. 

Copy  of  Regulations  for  Secondary  Schools Board  of  

in  force  from  1st  August  1909  in  England, Education, 

excluding  Wales and Monmouthshire,  


Ordered, That  the said Papers do lie upon the 


Table. 


Pontypool  Gas
rxoniST1
*• a>

  The  Pontypool  Gas  and  Water Bill  [Lords] 
w a s '  accorc^np   t o  Order,  read  a  second  time, 
and committed. 

Musselburgh 
Gas Order 
Confirmation 
BiU. 

The  Musselburgh  Gas  Order  Confirmation 
Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  the  third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Caledonian
Orderay
Confirmation
BiU-

The House, according  to Order, proceeded  to 
take into consideration the  Caledonian  Railway 

  Order'Confirmation  Bill. 

Secretary Sir Edward Grey  presented, by  His Trade  Reports 

Majesty's  Command,  —  Copies  of  Diplomatic j^g"^1 
and Consular Reports, Annual Series, Nos. 4207, 
4228, 4232, 4235,  4238, and 4239. 

" 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Burns  presented,  pursuant  to  the direc-  Alkali, &c. 

tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  the 
Forty-fifth  Annual  Report  by  the  Chief  In- Act, 1906. 
spector under the Alkali, &c. Works Regulation 
Act, 1906, of Proceedings during the year  1908, 
presented  to  the Local  Government Board and 
to the Secretary for Scotland. 

170, 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Local
Government  Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government 
OrdVexf(No. 5) Provisional  Orders  (No.  5)  Bill; 
Bil1­

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of
  S e c o n <  1  heading

Local
Pro^^siona?"
Orders (No. 6) Provisional  Orders (No.  6)  Bill; 
BlUl 

  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  of  the  Local  Government 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Local 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Government  Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government 
Orders'(No. 7) Provisional  Orders (No.  7)  Bill; 
Bin.

Ordered, That the Biil  be  read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Third 
Report. 
Parliamentary
Papers
(  ecess.)

Trade Reports
(Annual
Benes.)

Trade

countries  and
British

Several  Public  Petitions were  presented, and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

  The  following  Papers,  presented  by  Com­

mand  of  His  Majesty during  the  Whitsuntide 
Recess,  were  delivered  to the Librarian  of  the 
House  of  Commons  during  the  Recess,  pur­
suant  to the Standing  Order  of the 14th August 
1896  :— 
  Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular Reports, 
Annual  Series, Nos. 4224, 4229,  and 4234. 

' 
Copy  of  Annual  Statement  of  the  Trade  of 
  t h  e  -United  Kingdom  with  Foreign  Countries 
and British Possessions for 1908.  Volume I. 

' 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  pursuant  to Diseases  of 
the  directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy ^Tf'^anq8' 
of  an  Order  under  the  Diseases  of  Animals 
Acts,  1894  to 1903,  No.  7707,  dated  26th  May 
1909,  revoking  Order,  No.  7683,  of 22nd April 
1909. 

0 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr. Secretary  Gladstone  presented,—Return  Municipal 

to  an  Address  to  His  Majesty, dated  the 20th 
day  of December 1906,  for  a  Return  showing, Kingdom.) 
for the London  County Council, the Corporation  ]s[0> 
of  the  City  of  London,  the  Council  of  each 
Metropolitan  Borough,  the  Corporations  of  the 
Municipal Boroughs  of  Liverpool,  Manchester, 
Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield, Bristol, Bradford, 
West  flam,  Newcastle-upon-Tyne,  Kingston-
upon-Hull,  Nottingham,  Salford,  Leicester, 
Portsmouth,  Bolton,  Cardiff,  Sunderland,  Old­
ham,  Croydon,  Blackburn,  Brighton,  Derby, 
Preston,  Norwich, Birkenhead,  Gateshead,  Ply­
mouth,  Halifax,  Southampton,  South  Shields,  

Burnley,  East  Ham,  Huddersfield,  Swansea,  

Wolverhampton,  Stockport,  Middlesbrough, 
Stockton-on-Tees, and  Blackpool, and  the  Cor­
porations  of  Edinburgh,  Glasgow,  Dundee,  and  

Aberdeen, the  nature  and  extent and,  for each  

of  the  last  four  years  for  which figures are 

available,  thefinancial results  of  reproductive  

Municipal  Undertakings,  including  for  each  

undertaking  separately  a  short  description 
thereof,  date  and  terms  of  original  acquisition  

or  establishment  or  subsequent  extension, how  


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Ho. 67.]  9  EDW.  V I I. 

Srd  June. 

managed,  capital  employed  and  how  obtained, 
value  of  the  undertaking,  capital  paid  off  and 
outstanding,  loan  charges,  provision  for  depre­
ciation, gross income and expenditure, net profit 
or  loss,  how  profit  is  allocated  or  loss  met, 
amount  of  relief  or  burden  to  rates,  number 
and salaries of  the chief paid officials,  number of 
workpeople, rate  of  wages  paid  in chief  classes 
of  labour,  and  prices  charged  for  products  or 
services supplied  or rendered. 

tributed  by  England,  Scotland,  and  Ireland, 
respectively,  to the Revenue  collected  by impe­
rial  officers;  (2)  the  Expenditure  on  English, 
Scottish,  and  Irish  Services  met  out  of  such 
Revenue;  and  (3)  the  balances  of  Revenue 
contributed by England,  Scotland,  and  Ireland, 
respectively,  which  are  available  for  imperial 
Expenditure  (in  continuation  of  Parliamentary 
Paper,  No.  216  of  Session  1908).—(Mr.  John 
O'Connor.) 

Polling 
Districts 
(County  of 
Berks.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur­
suant to the directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament, 
:—Copy  of  Order  made  by the  Council  of  the 
County of Berks, altering certain PollingDistricts 
in  the  Eastern  or  Wokingham  Parliamentary 
Division. 

Polling 
Districts 
(Borough  of 
Darlington.) 

Copy  of  Order  made  by the  Council  of  the 
Borough  of  Darlington, redividing the borough 
into Polling Districts. 

Polling 
Districts 
(County of 
Surrey.) 

Education 
(Scotland.) 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
County  of  Surrey,  constituting  the  Parish  of 
Sanderstead a separate Polling  District. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table  ;, and that the said Return be printed. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Minute  of  the 
Committee of Council  on Education  in Scotland, 
dated  3rd  June  1909, providing for the alloca­
tion  of the balance  of  the  Education (Scotland) 
Fund for the year 1909-10. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

The  following  Papers  were  laid  upon  the 

Table by the Clerk  of the House :— 

Further Bet urn to  an Order, dated the 9th day 

of August  1901, for Returns comprising  (1) the 
Reports  made  to  the  Charity Commissioners in 
the  result  of  an  Inquiry held  in  every  parish 
wholly  or  partly  within  the  County  of  Wilts, 
into  Endowments  subject  to  the  provisions  of 
the  Charitable  Trusts  Acts,  1853  to  1894,  and 
appropriated  in  whole  or  in part for the benefit 
of  that  county,  or  of  any part thereof, together 
with  the  Reports  on  those  Endowments  of 
the  Commissioners  for  inquiring  concerning 
Charities,  1818. to  1837 ;  (2)  a  Digest showing, 
in the case  of  each  such  parish,  whether  any, 
and, if any, what such Endowments are recorded 
in  the  books  of  the  Charity  Commissioners  in 
the  parish ;  and  (3)  an  Index,  alphabetically 
arranged,  of names and places  mentioned  in the 
Reports. 

Further Return  to  an Order,  dated  the  26th 
day  of  July  1905,  for  Returns  relative  to 
Inquiry into Charities  (County  of Devon). 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  24th  day of 
May last,  for  Returns  relative  to  Inquiry into 
Charities (County Borough of Bury). 

Mr.  Hugh  Barrie,  Mr.  Menzies,  and  Mr.  Remission of 

Nolan  were  nominated  Members  of  the Select 
Committee  on  the  Remission  of  Surcharges 
(Dublin) Bill.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

u 

1  * 

The House, accordin,  to Order, resolved itself Supply 

into the Committee  of  I 

u p p l y  > 

[8th  allotted-
Day.] 

(In  the Committee.) 

Revenue Departments Estimates,  1909-10. 

Motion made,  and Question proposed,  That a 
sum not exceeding £743,200-  be granted  to  His 
Majesty,  to  complete  the  sum  necessary  to 
defray the  charge  which  will come  in course of 
payment, during the year ending  on the 31st day 
of  March  1910 for the Salaries and  Expenses of 
the Inland Revenue  Department: 

Whereupon  Motion made, and  Question  put, 
That  a  sum  not exceeding  £743,100  be granted 
for the said Service.—(Mr. Snowden.) 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Newdegate,

Yeas, 

\Mr. Summerbell: 

Tellers for the/ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

}

|  64. 

Noes, 

(Master  of Elibank : 

Original Question again proposed : 

Whereupon  Motion  made, and Question pro­
posed, That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £743,000  be 
granted for the said  Service.—(Mr..Gretton.) 

Sir  Frederick  Banbury  moved,  That  the Chairman 
Chairman  do report Progress,  and  ask  leave  to declines  to^ 
sit again ;  but  the  Chairman,  being  of  opinion Qu^tfon 
that the Motion was  an  abuse  of  the  Rules  of (Abuse  of 
the  House,  declined  to  propose  the  QuestionRules-) 
thereupon  to the Committee. 

Question  again  proposed,  That  a  sum  not  


exceeding  £743,000  be  granted  for  the  said 
Service: 


, 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the  


Chairman  do report Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  

sit again,—(Mr.  Stuart-Worthy.)  


The Committee divided. 
,, 
e 
m  „ 
Tellers  for the 

fSir Alexander Acland-

1  e a s' 

[Mr.  Pike  Pease : 


Tellers for the j Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

(Master  of  Elibank  :  


)
j.  2 0 . 

}

91. 

Question  put,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  


: £743,000  be granted for the said Service. 

The  following  Papers,  pursuant to the  direc­
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,  were also 
laid  upon  the  Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the 
House :— 

Copy  of  explanatory  Memorandum  of  the 

Workmen's  Compensation Rules,  1909. 

Copy  of  County Court  Rules,  1909  (No.  2), 

with explanatory Note. 

Ordered, That the said Returns  be printed. 

Ordered, That there be laid before this House 
a  Return  showing,  for  the  year  ending  the 
31st day of  March  1908,  (1)  the  amount  con-

VOL.  164. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the [Mr.  Gretton, 
(Mr.  Bowles : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the/Mr. Joseph Pease,  " 

Noes, 

(Master  of Elibanh: 

Original  Question put, and agreed to. 
Resolution  to be reported. 

) 
J" 
1 
/ 

20. 

91. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  the  


Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported, That  

the Committee had come to a Resolution. 


Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon  


Thursday next. 


D  D  4  


Inquiry  into 
Charities 
(County  of 
Wilts.) 

No. 172. 

Inquiry  into 
Charities 
(County  of 
Devon.) 

No. 173. 
Inquiry  into 
Charities 
(County 
Borough  of 
Bury.) 

No. 174. 

Workmen's 
Compensation 
Act,  1906. 
County  Court 
Rules. 

Revenue and 
Expenditure 
(England, 
Scotland, and 
Ireland.) J 



208 

3rd—4:th  June. 

1909 

[No.-67. 

The  Chairman  of  "Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the House that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may have leave to 
sit again. 

Resolved, That this House will,  upon Monday 
next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland ^°nue Bill. 
Revenue  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Resolved, That this House  do  now adjourn.-—  Adjournment. 

(Mr. Joseph Pease.) 

Supply 
[87th  April] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply of 
the 27th day  of April last; 

Ordered, That  the Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

Supply 
[22nd  March] 
Report 
(deferred 
Resolution.) 

The Order of  the day  being  read,  for  taking 
into consideration the Sixth  of  the  Resolutions 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day  of  March last, were 
reported from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the 
22nd day of March last; 

lOrdered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

into further consideration upon Thursday next. 

And  then  the  House,  having continued  to  

sit till twenty minutes  after Seven  of the 

clock, adjourned till to-morrow. 


[No.  68.] 

Fridayr  4th June 1909. 
The House met at Twelve  of the clock. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways and Means ; 

Resolved, That this House will,  upon Monday 

P R A Y E R S. 

THE  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Central 

Third  Reading  of  the  Central  London 

Railway Bill; 

„.„ 
RaUwayBUl. 

next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

And a Motion being made, That  the  Bill  be 

Check-
weighing in 
various 
Industries 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of the Checkweighing  in various 
Industries Bill; 

.' 

, 

Ordered, That  the JBill be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Buildings  and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

jSecond Reading  of  the Buildings and Engineer­
ing Works  Bill; 

now read the third time ; 

Mr.  Harcourt,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted the House  that His Majesty, having 
been informed  of  the purport  of  the  Bill, gives 
His  Consent,  as  far  as  His  Majesty's  interest 
is concerned, that  the  House may  do therein  as 
they shall think  fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time and 

passed. 

Ordered,  That the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

upon Monday next. 

Trawling  in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
(Prevention) 
Bill. 

The Order  of  the day  being read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited 
Areas  (Prevention)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Midland 
Third  Reading  of  the  Midland  Railway  Bill  Kailwav Bill 
[Lords'] ; 

,  [Xm'ds,] 

J 

And  a  Motion  being  made, That the Bill  be 

now read the third time ; 

And notice  being  taken  that  the  interest of 
His Majesty,  as Diike of Lancaster,  is concerned 
therein ; 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on the Question proposed 
upon  the  21st day  of April last,  That the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

Mr.  Harcourt,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted the House that  His Majesty, having 
been informed of  the purport  of  the  Bill, gives 
His  Consent,  as  far  as  His  Majesty's interest 
is concerned,  that the House  may  do  therein as 
they shall think  fit. 

till Monday next. 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
into consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as 
amended  in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

Secretary  of 
the Board  of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of the Board 
of  Agriculture and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

Assistant 
Postmaster 
General  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 
General  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Superannua­
tion  Bill. 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Superannuation  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next, 

' 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time and 

passed, with Amendments. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that this House 
hath agreed  to  the same, with Amendments ;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London and 

Second  Reading  of  the  London  and  South 
Western  Railway  Bill  [Lords]  ; 

[jLords.] 

' 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Tuesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Gas Light and 
Company 

Third  Reading  of  the  Gas  Light  and  Coke 
Company Bill; 

.  1  ' 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read the third time 

upon Tuesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Great  Western 
1 

Second Reading  of  the Great Western Railway
(Steam  Vessels) Bill  [Lords]; 

;  ; 

7 

Vesse™)  Bill 
[Lords.] 



­
 
No. 68.]  9  EDW.  YII. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

4 th  June.  	

209 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon  the  


upon Tuesday next. 

Table. 


Caledonian 
Kail way-
Order 
Confirmation 
BilL 

The Caledonian Railway  Order  Confirmation 
Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  the  third 
time and passed.  : 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords,  and desire their concurrence. 

The Order for resuming, upon  Monday next, Sweated 
the adjourned  Debate  on the  Amendment which,  industries BiU. 
upon  the  26th  day  of March last, was proposed 
to  be made  to  the  Question,  That the Sweated 
Industries  Bill  be  now read a second time, was 
read, and discharged. 

a

. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 
(No.  5)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 
(]<f0.  e)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read a 
. ..

Local 
Government 
Ordere CSo.  5) second time, and committed, 
Bill. 
Local 
Government	 
Provisional	 
Orders (No. 6) second time, ana committed. 
Bill. 
Local 
ProvSaf  
Orders (No. 7) second  time, and committed. 
Bill. 
Musselburgh 
fBxteSioifof  ®rm  a  Provis*0113-!  Order  under  the  Private 
Boundaries,0  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, 
&c.) Order 
relating  to Musselburgh  Corporation :  And  the 
Confirmation  g a m  e  w a  s  read  the  first  time,  and  ordered 
(under  Section  9  of  the  Act)  to  be  read  a 
'  second  time  upon Monday  the 14th day  of this 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 
7 )  "Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a 

The Lord  Advocate presented  a  Bill  to  con­

Bill 237 

' 

instant June;  and to be printed. 

Lune  Fisheries  Sir  Edward  .Strachey  presented  a  Bill  to 
nT^rn?1 
confirm  an Order under the Salmon  and  Fresh-
w a t e  r  F i g l i e r j e g  A c t  j  1907,  relating  to  the  River 
Order Bin. 

Bill 238,  Lune and other waters. 

Ordered, That  Standing  Order  193a  be  sus­
pended, and  that  the  Bill be now read the  first 
time.—(The Deputy  Chairman.) 

The Bill  was accordingly read thefirst time. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be printed. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Third 
Report. 

London 
County 
Council, 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of several Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of I.  Return  (in  pursuance of  the  Metropolitan 
No. 175.  Board  of  Works  (Loans)  Act,  1869)  showing, 
up  to  the  31st  March  1909:  (I.)  The  amount 
of  Consolidated  Stock;  (II.)  The  application 
of  the  money  raised  by  such  Stock;  (III.) 
The  sums  carried  to  the  Consolidated  Loans 
Fund;  (IV.)  The  application  of  the  Consoli­
dated  Loans  Fund;  and  (V.)  An  Estimate  of 
the expenditure  of the Council  for  all  purposes 
for the year  ending  31st  March  1910 ; 
And 
II,  Return  (in  pursuance  of  the  Metropolitan 
Board  of Works (Loans)  Act, 1875) showing, up 
to the 31st  March  1909 :  (I.)  All  moneys raised 
by  the  Metropolitan  Board  of  Works  and  the 
Council  since  the  passing  of  the  Act  for the 
purposes  mentioned  in  the  Act;  and  (II.) 
Particulars  in  relation  to  every parish, district, 
union,  or  place  in  respect  whereof  a  Loan  has 
been  obtained from  the  Metropolitan  Board  of 
Works  or the Council  since  the  passing  of  the 
Act. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Railway 
Agreements. 	 Command,—Copy  of  Heads  of  Agreements 
between  the  London  and  North  Western  and 
Midland Railway  Companies,  and  between  the 
London  and  North  Western,  Midland,  and 
Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Companies. 

VOL.   164, 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till Monday the 21st day  of this instant June. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time, upon Shops Bill. 

Monday  next,  the  Shops  Bill,  was  read,  and 
discharged. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read  a  second time 

upon Monday the 21st  day of this instant June. 

The  Order  of the day being read, for resuming Trade Boards 

the adjourned Debate  on the Question  proposed [Expenses.] 
upon the 24th day of May last, That this House 
doth  agree  with  the  Committee  in the Resolu­
tion,  That  it  is  expedient  to  authorise  the 
payment, out  of moneys provided by Parliament, 
of  remuneration  and  expenses  incurred  under 
any  Act  of  the  present Session  to  provide  for 
the  establishment  of  Trade  Boards  for certain 
Trades; 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed :— 
The House resumed the said adjourned Debate.  


And the Question being put ; 

The House divided. 

The Yeas  to the  Right;  

The Noes to the Left. 

Tellers  for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

'1 
J 
Tellers for the/ Sir Frederick  Banbury, 1 

j


(Master  of  Elibank : 

IMr.  Gretton : 

Noes, 

60. 


15. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 

Second Reading  of the London Elections Bill;  Elections BiU. 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be made to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
<! That"  to the end  of  the Question,  and adding 
the words "  this House will not entertain  a  Bill 
dealing with and restricting  the  exercise  of  the 
voting franchise which, besides  its  own  defects 
and injustice,  is  not  accompanied by provisions 
for a redistribution of seats, and gives  no remedy 
for existing glaring anomalies  in the representa­
tion  of  the  people —  (Sir  Henry  Kimber), — 
instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 
words proposed to  be left out  stand  part  of  the 
Question :—And  a Debate arising thereupon ; 

Mr.  Harcourt rose in his place and claimed  to 

move, That the Question  be now put. 

And  the  Question being put,  That the  Ques- Question put 

tion  be now put; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 

The Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for theJ Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 
e 
Tellers for the I 
Noes, 

(Mi-.  Herbert Lewis  ; 
(Sir Alexander  Acland-


H o  < 

[yiscount  Valentia:  


(pursuant to 
0f Debate.) 


J  143. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
And the Question being accordingly put, That 
the words proposed  to  be  left out stand part of 
the Question; 

E  K 

A  Public Petition  was  presented,  and  read ; 

and ordered to lie upon the  Table. 

And  a  Motion being  made, and the Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read a 
second time; 

 




^ik—lih  June.  


Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Provisional 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private Bills, That  in the  case  of  the  following  orders 
Bill, referred  on the  First  Reading thereof, the  applicable 
Standing  Orders  which  are  applicable  thereto compite<J 
have been complied with, viz.  :—* 

with.) 

Pier  and  Harbour  Provisional  Orders 

(No, 2)  Bill, 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

|  141. 

} 

4 0. 

The House divided. 

The  Yeas to the Right ; 

The Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis: 
Tellers for the] Sir Henry  Kimber, 
(.Sir  William  Bull: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
And the Main Question being put ; 
The House divided. 
The Yea,s  to the  Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 
\Mr. Herbert  Lewis : 
fSir Alexander Acland' 
s  Hood,
[Viscount  Valentta  : 

Yeas, 
m  „ 
"  ~ 
Tellers for the J 
Noes,

140. 

}
I 

46. 

J 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Ordered,  That  the Bill  be now  read a second 
time :—The  Bill  was accordingly read a second 
time. 

A  Motion was made, and  the  Question being 
put, That the Bill  be committed  to a Committee 
of the whole House—(Mr.  I^yttelton); 

The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for t h e f  8 5  ^ ?  ^  A c l a n d  ~
<  Hood, 
[Viscount  Valentia : 

v 
1  eaS' 

1 

46. 

Tellers for the / Mr, Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 

135. 

So it passed  in the Negative. 
The Bill was committed  to  a  Standing  Com­

mittee. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Five  Of  the 
clock, Mr.  Speaker adjourned  the  House 
without Question  put, pursuant  to Stand­
ing  Order  No. 3,  it  being  then  twenty* 
nine minutes before Six  of  the  clock, till 
Monday next. 

[No.  69.] 

Monday, 7th June 1909. 

The House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three of the clock. 

P B A T E S S. 

M:R.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,­

from one of the Examiners  of Petitions for 
Private Bills, That in the case of  the  following 
Bills,  originating  in  the  Lords, and referred on 
the First Reading thereof,  the  Standing  Orders 
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are 
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
viz.:— 

East  Sussex County Council Bill [Lords]. 
Stourbridge and District  Water Board Bill 

[Lords'].

Bristol  University Bill [Fiords]. 
Gateshead  and  District  Tramways  Bill 

[Lotds]. 

North Eastern Railway Bill  [Lords]. 
Manchester Corporation Bill  [Lords]. 
Southport  and  Lytham  Tramroad  (Aban­

donment)  Bill  [Lords]. 
Barry Railway  Bill  [Lords]. 

Ordered, That  the Bills be  read  %  second  time. 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report Provisional 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for Orfer Bills 
Private  Bills,  That  in the case  of  the following Orders' 
Bills, referred  on the  First  Reading  thereof, no applicable,) 
Standing Orders are applicable, viz, 


Metropolitan  Commons  Provisional  Order  


Bill. 


Sea  Fisheries  (Tees)  Provisional  Order 

B i l l. 

; 

Local  Government  (Ireland)  Provisional 

Order (No.  3)  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bills  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  Upon  the  Table,—Report  Provisional 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  Of  Petitions  for 
Private Bills, That  in the  case  of  the following 
Bill,  originating  in the  Lords,  and  referred  on  Orders 
the  First Reading thereof,  no  Standing  Orders a P P l i c a b l ? '> 
are applicable, viz. 

S 
standing 

: 

Board  of  Education  Scheme  (Cheshunt 
•  College)  Confirmation Bill  [Lords], 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report Provisional 
Order  Bills 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
[Lords]
Private Bills, That  in  the case  of  the following (Standing 
Bills,  originating  in the  Lords,  and referred on Orders 
the First  Reading  thereof, the  Standing Orders applicable 
thereto 
which are applicable  thereto have been complied complied 
with,  viz.:— 

with.) 

Education  Board  Provisional  Order  Con­
firmation  (London,  No.  1) Bill  [Lords].
Education  Board  Provisional  Order  Con­
firmation  (London, No. 2)  Bill  [Lords],
Education  Board  Provisional  Orders  Con­
firmation  (Bucks,  &c.) Bill  [Lords]. 
Ordered, That the Bills be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Grantham  Water Bill  [Lords]  was  read Grantham 
^^j/j1 11 

the third time and passed, with Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 
the Lords;  and acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed  to the same, with Amendments;  to 
which this House doth  desire  the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

The  Stock  Conversion  and Investment  Trust Stock 

(North  Eastern  Railway Consols)  Bill  [Lords]  Conversion^d 
was read the third time and passed. 

(uorth 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this House consols) 
hath agreed to the same, without Amendment.  Bill [Lords.] 

The  Worksop  Water  Bill  [Lords]  was  read Worksop 

the third time and passed, with Amendments. 

[x^,™/]11 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and acquaint them that  this  House 
hath agreed  to the  same,  with Amendments ;  to 
which this House doth  desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

Private  Bills 
[Lords]
(Standing 
Orders not 
previously 
inquired into 
complied 
with.) 



Ho.  m ]

9  B  d w  .  YII. 

South  Eastern 
and; Loudon, 
Chatham,  , 
and  Dover 
Railways  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Third 
Report. 

Colonial 
Reports 
(Annual.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Beading  of  the  South  Eastern  and 
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill 
[Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Thursday next. 

And  the Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word "  now "  stand part  of  the Question :—And 
a Debate arising thereupon ; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  put, That  the  Debate  be now  adjourned 
—(Mr.  Bottomley):—  It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Several Public  Petitions  were presented, and 

read ;  and ordered to lie  upon the Table, 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy of  Report, No. 599 (Falkland 
Islands, Annual Report for 1908). 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Labour 
Second Reading  of the Labour Exchanges  Bill; Exchanges 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the 

to-morrow. 

Table. 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Serips.) 

Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey presented, by His 
Majesty's Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic and 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4237, 
4240 to 4244,  and 4246,. 

Ordered, That the  said Paper  do lie upo.n the 

Table. 

Fisheries 
(Ireland.) 

The Order made upon the 15th day  of Decem­
ber in the last Session  of  Parliament,  That  the 
Paper relative to Fisheries (Ireland)  do lie upon 
the Table, was read. 

Ordered, That  so much  of  the  said  Paper  as 
relates  to  Part  II.,  Scientific Investigations for 
1907 and 1908,  be withdrawn.—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-

Prosecution  of
offences Acts,  sented to His Majesty, that He will be graciously 
1879  to 1908.  pjCilsC(]   t g  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before this House a Return showing the working 
of  the  Regulations  made  in  1886  for  carrying 
out the Prosecution of  Offences Acts, 1879,  1884, 
and  1908,  with  Statistics setting forth the num­
ber, nature, result, and  cost  of  the  Proceedings 
instituted  by  the  Director  in  accordance  with 
those Regulations, from the 1st  day  of  January 
1908  to  the  31st  day  of  December  1908  (in 
continuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No. "290 
of Session 1908).—(Mr.  Herbert Samuel.) 

Derwent 
Valley  Water 
Board  Bill. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Derwent  Valley 
Water  Board  Bill;  That  they  had  examined 
the allegations contained  in the Preamble  of  the 
Bill,  and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it 
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed  by  the Committee, and  found  the  same, 
as amended, to  be true ;  and had  gone through 
the Bill  and made Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, Town 
&C.  B i l l; 

Planning, 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  House Letting 

Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting  and iu»tl Rating 
Rating (Scotland)  Bill; 

(Scotland) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  at second time 

upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for  taking Trawling in 
into  consideration  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited Prohibited 
Areas  (Prevention)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the Areas 
(Prevention) 
Standing  Committee; 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Established 

Seoond  Reading  of  the  Established  Church Church 
(Wales) Bill; 

<Wales> BiU-

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 
Second  Reading  of  the London  Electric  Supply Electric 
Bill; 

Supply Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish Land 

Committee  on the Irish Land Bill; 

Bill, 

Resolved, That this House  will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming Houses  of 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment  which, Parliament 
upon  the  20th  day  of  April  last,  was proposed BlU-
to  be made  to the Question,  That the Houses of 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

Mr.  Cleland, supported  by Mr.  Younger, Mr.  Parliament Bill  be now read a second time; 

Police  Super­
annuation 
(Scotland) 
(No.  2)  Bill. 

B i ll  2 3 9. 

Barnes,  Mr.  Mitchell- Thomson,  Mr.  Charles 
Price,  Mr.  Gulland,  Viscount  Dalrymple,  Sir 
James Dalziel, Captain Murray^Captain  Waring,till Monday next. 
and  Mr.  Dundas  White,  presented  a  Bill  to 
amend  the  Police  (Scotland)  Act,  1890:  And 
the same was ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time 
upon Friday the 18th day  of  this  instant June ; 
and to be printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Places  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship Worship 
(Enfranchisement) Bill; 

_  SE^BST 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Finance  Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Finance  Bill; 

And a Motion  being  made, and  the Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read a 
second time ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to be made to 
the  Question, by leaving  out  the word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  three  months."—(Mr. 
Austen Chamberlain.) 

.  _ . 

VOL.   164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Election  of 
Second Reading  of  the Election  of  Aldermen  in dkJe""en,in 
Municipal Boroughs  Bill; 

Municipal 
Boroughs  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  Land' 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

Committee  on Irish Land  [Advances, &c.]; 
E E? 

7 th  June« 

. 

[No. 69. 

Resolved,  That this House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the Telegraph  (Arbitration) 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Electric
Lighting Acts  Second  Reading  of  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
i m f S *?

  (Amendment) Bill  [Lords]; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies) BUI. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Marine Insurance (Gam­
bling Policies)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assistant 

Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 
General  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Superannua-

Second Reading  of the Superannuation Bill ; 

tlon Bl]1­

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland inland 
Revenue Bill; 

RevenueBdl. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The Order of  the  day being  read,  for  taking Temperance 
into  consideration  the  Temperance  (Scotland) (Scotland) 
Bill,  as amended in the Standing  Committee; 

1 " 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next. 

Milk  and  

Dairies Bill, 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Milk and Dairies  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish National 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils Mort­
gages Bill ; 

Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools Schools 
(Heating and Cleansing)  Bill; 

_  E s i ^ g) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second  time Blil­

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Charitable 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

Second Reading  of  the Charitable Trusts Bill;

  Trusts  Bm-

upon Monday next. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday the 21st. day  of  this instant June. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways and Means; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Territorial 
Second Reading  of  the  Territorial  Army  Ballot Army Ballot 
Bill; 

BlU' 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Monday the 21st day  of this instant June. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Necessitous 

Second  Reading  of  the  Necessitous  Mothers Mothers 
/  A  •  . 
(Assistance)  Isul; 

(Assistance) 
BIU. 

, 

Check-
weighing in 
various 
Industries 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of the Checkweighing  in various 
Industries  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Buildings and
Engineering
Works  Bill.

  Second Reading  of the Buildings  and Engineer­

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
. 
ing Works  Bill; 

i  T>-ii 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the post Office 
Second  Reading  of  the  Post  Office  (Lotteries (Lotteries and 
and  Obscene  Matter)  Bill; 

Matter) Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Wednesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Metropolitan 
Second  Reading  of  the  Metropolitan  Ambu- Ambulances 
lances Bill; 

BllL 

Cinemato ­
graph  Bill. 

The Order  of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on  the  Question proposed 
upon  the  21st  day of April last,  That the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till to-morrow. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time 
upon Tuesday the  15th day  of  this instant June. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Bishoprics  Bill 

Second Reading  of  the Bishoprics Bill [Lords]  ; 

[Lords.] 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as 
amended in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Theatres and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music Music Halls 
Halls Bill; 

BlU-

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of the Board 

Secretary  of  

the Board  of  

.  ,
. 
and Fisheries  of Agriculture and Fisheries Bill; 
BlU-

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Law  of 
Second Reading  of the Law  of  Murder (Amend- Murder 
ment)  Bill; 

(Amendment) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 
upon Tuesday the 15th day  of this instant June. 

 
 
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7th—8th June. 

Cruelty  to 
Animals 
(No.  3)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Cruelty  to  Animals 
(No. 3)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
upon Tuesday the  15th day  of this instant June. 

STANDING  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution  by Mr. Speaker, pursuant  to Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a  

Standing Committee.  


Metropolitan 
Sewers and 
Drains  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  tne 
Second Reading  of the Metropolitan  Sewers and 
Drains Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 
upon Tuesday the 22nd day of this instant June. 

Name of Bill. 

Standing 
Committee. 

L o u d on  Elections  B i ll 

-

C. 

Vagrancy Act 
Amendment  Second  Reading  of  the  Vagrancy Act  Amend-
Blll> 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

ment Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second  time 
upon Tuesday the 22nd day  of this instant June. 

Union Officers  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Ireland) Bill.  Second Reading  of  the  Union Officers (Ireland) 

Bill  ; 

to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a  second time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Municipal 
Corporations  Second Reading  of  the  Municipal  Corporations 
(Qualification  (Qualification  of  Clergymen) Bill;. 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 
upon Tuesday  the 22nd day of this instant June. 

Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Dogs'  Protection  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Friday the 18th day  of this instant June. 

Inter-
communion 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Intercommunion  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Pedlars  Acts 
Amendment  Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-
Bill. 

ment Bill ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Thursday next, 

Prohibition of  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of the Prohibition of Vivisection 
Vivisection 
gill; 
BUI. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Burial  Places 
(Exemption  Second Reading of the Burial Places (Exemption 
from  Bates) 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

from Rates) (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 
upon Tuesday the 22nd day  of this instant June. 

[ N o.

  m ] 

Tuesday, 8th June 1909. 

The House met at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three  of the clock. 


P R A Y E R S.  

THE  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Gas Light and 

Third  Reading  of the Gas Light and Coke Coke Company 

Company Bill; 

BlU-

S

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  the third time 
upon  Thursday  the  17th  day  of  this  instant 
June,  at a quarter  of  an hour after Eight  of the 
clock. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Methwoldand 

Second Reading  of  the  Methwolcl and Feltwell Feitweii  ^ 
Drainage Bill  [Lords]  ; 

[Lordf^ B'' 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

The  London and South Western  Railway  Bill  London and 
[Lords]  was, according to Order,  read a  second l^nwa^Bin™ 
time, and committed. 

[Lords.'] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Great Western 

Second Reading  of  the Great  Western Railway 
(Steam Vessels)  Bill [L,ords] ; 

Vessels) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time  BiU  [Lords.] 

upon  Thursday  the  17 th  day  of  this  instant 
June,  at a quarter  of  an hour after Eight  of  the 
clock. 

The  Pier  and  Harbour  Provisional  Orders Pier and 

(No.  2)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a 
second time, and committed. 

Orders (No. 2) 
Bill. 

The Metropolitan Commons Provisional  Order Metropolitan 

Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second 
time,  and  committed. 

Order Bill. 

The  Sea  Fisheries  (Tees)  Provisional  Order Sea Fisheries 

Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second CTees) 

time,  and  committed. 

i 

. 

. .. 

i 

Provisional 
order Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
Medical  Acts 
Amendment  Second  Reading  of  the  Medical  Acts  Amend-
Bill. 

ment Bill  ; 

Ordered, That the said Order be discharged. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be withdrawn. 

Workmen's 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
. 
Co 
^ompensa ion  g e c o n (j Reading 0f the Workmen's Compensation 

Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second time 

upon Friday the 2nd day  of July next. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit till  eleven minutes after Eleven  of the 
clock, adjourned till to-morrow. 

VOL.   164. 

The Local  Government  (Ireland)  Provisional Local 

Order  (No.  3)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order, 
read a second time, and committed. 

Provisional 
Order  (No.   3) 
Bill. 

The Board  of  Education  Scheme  (Cheshunt Board of 
College)  Confirmation Bill  [Lords]  was, accord-^J^' 0 11 
ing  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and  com- (oheshunt 
mitted. 

College) 
Confirmation 
Bill  [Lords.]
The  Education  Board  Provisional  Order Education 

Confirmation (London,  No.  1) Bill  [Lords]  was, Board 
according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and order1 
committed. 

Confirmation 
(London, 
No. 1)  Bill 
[Lords. J 

The  Education  Board  Provisional  Order Education 

Confirmation (London, No.  2)  Bill  [Lords]  was,  p ^  i o n al 

E  E  3 

Order 

Confirmation 
(London, 
No. 2)  Bill 
[Lords.] 
Education 
Board 
Provisional 
Orders 
(Bucks,  &c.) 
BiU  [Lords.]
Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Third 
Report, 
Experiments 
on  Living 
Animals. 

N o.  1 7 6. 

m 
according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed. 

8th June, 


Ordered,  That  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Sur-  Hours  of 
facemen)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon (fur°f^.cracri)
Tuesday the 22nd day of this instant June. 

Bill. 

The  Education  Board  Provisional  Orders 
(Bucks,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords]  was,  according  to 
Order, read a  second time, and committed^ 

Ordered, That the Infant Life Protection  Bill Infant  Life 

,n 
,  ,. 
be read a second time to-morrow. 

, 

, 

Protection 
BiUi 

Several Public Petitions  were presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,—Return 
to  an  Address  to  His Majesty, dated  the 26th 
day  of  May  last,  for  a  Return  relative  to 
Experiments  on  Living  Animals. 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the Dublin  Police 

Dublin  Police  Acts,  1837 and 1859  :  And  the Bm-. 
same was ordered to  be read a second time upon  Bill 240. 
Tuesday next;  and to be printed. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented  a  Bill  to  correct  a Lunacy 

verbal  error  in  section  six  of  t he  L u n a cy   ( I r e -( M a n d)   Bill, 
land)  Act,  1901 :  And the same  was ordered  to  Bill 241. 
be read a  second  time upon Tuesday next;  and 
to  be printed. 

Treaty  Series

(No.  14,1909.)

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
  His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Accessions 
of British  Colonies, &c.  to  the  Treaty  of  Com­
merce between the United Kingdom  and Servia, 
signed  at Belgrade,  17th February  1907. 

Suez  Canal 
(Commercial 
No.  2,  1909.) 

Copy  of  Returns  of  Shipping  and  Tonnage 
passing  through  the  Suez  Canal,  1906,  1907, 
and 1908. 

Trade Reports  Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, 
(Annual 
Scrips  ) 

Annual  Series,  Nos.  4245,  4247,  and  4248, 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Asylum 

i1}^  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to­

annuaUon per" morrow,  the  Asylum  Officers'  Superannuation 
(Scotland)
Bill. 

(Scotland) Bill was read, and discharged. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be withdrawn. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the Local 

Law  relating  to  the  audit of  the  Accounts  of 
public  bodies  in  Ireland,  and  of  Committees Accounts) 
appointed by such bodies, and for other purposes (Ireland) Bill, 
connected therewith :  And the same was ordered  Bill 242. 
to  be  read  a  second time  upon Tuesday  next; 
and to be printed. 

The Order of  the day being read, for resuming Finance Bill, 

the adjourned Debate on the Amendment which, 
upon  the  7th  day  of  this  instant  June,  was 
proposed  to  be  made to the Question, That the 
Finance Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Which  Amendment  was,  to  leave  out  the 
word  " now,"  and at the end of the Question  to 
add the words  "  upon this day three months " — 
(Mr. Austen  Chamberlain)  ; 

And the Question being again  proposed, That 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  B. 
Sale  of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

Standing 
Committee  C. 

Trade  Boards 
Bill. 

Standing 
Committee  0. 

London 
Elections  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee  C. 

London 
Elections  BiU. 

Easter 
Offerings 
Bill. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

Mr. Fenwick reported  from the  Committee of 
Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol­
lowing Members from Standing Committee B (in 
respect  of  the  Sale  of  Margarine  Bill)  :—Sir 
Edward  Strachey and Mr.  Shackleton  ;  and had 
appointed  in  substitution  (in respect  of the said 
Bill)  :  Mr.  Tennant and Mr.  Walsh. 

Mr. Fenwick  further  reported from  the Com­
mittee ;  That they had discharged the following 
Members from Standing  Committee C (in respect 
of  the  Trade  Boards Bill):—Mr.  Walker  and 
Sir  Philip  Magnus ;  ana  had  appointed  in 
substitution (in  respect  of  the  said  Bill):  Mr. 
Lamont and Mr.  Hills. 

the word "  now "  stand part of  the Question :— 
The House resumed the said adjourned Debate. 
And a Motion  being made, and  the Question 
being put, That the Debate  be now adjourned—. 
(Mr.  John  O'Connor) :— It was resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Labour 
Second  Reading  of  the  Labour  Exchanges Ranges 
Bill; 

: 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Mr.  Fenwick further reported  from  the  Com­
mittee ;  That they  had discharged the following 
Members from Standing Committee C (in respect 
of  the  London  Elections  Bill):—Mr.  Burns, 
Mr. Masterman, and Sir  Edward Strachey ;  and 
had  appointed  in substitution  (in  respect of  the 
said Bill) :  Mr.  Harcourt,  Mr.  M'Kinnon  Wood, 
and Mr.  Solicitor General. 

Mr. Fenwick further  reported from  the Com­
mittee ;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing 
Committee  C  the  following  Fifteen  Members 
(in  respect  of  the  London  Elections  Bill):— 
Mr.  Causton, Mr.  Radford,  Sir  Albert  Spicer,
Mr.  Waterlow,  Mr.  Carr-Gomm,  Mr.  Dudley
Ward,  Mr. Pickersgill,  Sir  Henry  Kimber, Mr. 
Remnant,  Mr.  Peel,  Lord  Robert  Cecil,  Mr. 
Steadman, Mr.  Burdett- Coutts, Mr.  Horniman, 
and Mr. Bowerman. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Housing, 

Committee  on the Housing, Town Planning, &c. '£°wn. 
t j>  ii 
1 5 1 11   5 

rlanning,  occ. 
Bill.  . 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Telegraph 
Second Reading  of  the Telegraph (Arbitration)  (Arbitration) 
Bill; 

• 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Supply. 

Committee  of  Supply ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Ways and 

Committee  of Ways  and Means ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

Ordered, That  the  Easter  Offerings  Bill  be 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

read a second time upon Thursday next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Pawning  Industrial Tools 

Bill  be read a second time upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Check-
Second Reading  of the Checkweighing in various ^tous"8 m 
Industries Bill; 
industries 
Bill. 

. 

 
 
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8th—9th June. 

215 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Buildings and 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Engineering  Second Reading  of the Buildings  and Engineer-
Works  BiU. 

ing Works  Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Cinemato-
graph  BiU. 

The Order  of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on  the  Question proposed 
upon the 21st  day of  April last, That the  Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till to-morrow. 

The  Order  of the day being  read, for taking 
Coal Mines 
into  consideration  the  Coal  Mines  (Check­
(Check- 
weighers) Bill.  w e i g h e r 8 )  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 

Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Tuesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Plumage 
(Prohibition  Second  Reading  of  the  Plumage  (Prohibition 
of  Sale or 
Exchange  o f)  of Sale  or Exchange of)  Bill; 
BiU. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Tuesday next. 

[No.  71.] 

Wednesday, dth June 1909. 

The House met p-t  a quarter of  an hour 

before Three  of the clock. 


P E A T E E S. 

from one of the Examiners of Petitions for 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report Private BiUs 

5rivate Bills,  That  ; n  the  case  of the following orders not 
. Jill,  originating  in  the  Lords, and referred on previously 
the First Reading thereof, the  Standing Orders jXcom Ued 
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are  w;th.) 
applicable thereto, have not been complied with, 
viz. :— 

Taff Yale  Railway (Cardiff Railway, Vest­

ing, &c.)  Bill  [Lords],  


Ordered,  That  the Report  be referred  to the 

Select Committee  on Standing Orders. 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the.  Table,—Report Provisional 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for Order Bills 
Private Bills, That  in the case of  the following orders mS 
Bill,  referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, applicable 
the  Standing  Orders  which  are  applicable thereto 
thereto have been complied with, viz.:— 

with!) 

Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 

(No. 8)  Bill.  


Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

Gambling in 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
,  Second  Reading  of  the  Gambling  in  Options 

to-morrow. 

Ml 

(Prohibition) Bill; 

V 

Ordered, That the Bill be read  a  second time 

upon Thursday next. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Rights)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875) Amendment (Water Rights)  Bill; 
'  Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second time 
to-morrow. 

Bank Holidays  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Bill. 

.Second Reading  of the Bank Holidays  Bill; 
- Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 
to-morrow. 

The House proceeded  to take  into  considera- Cievedon 
Water  Bill 

—  

— 

-
tion  the  Cievedon  Water  Bill 
amended  in the Committee. 

- -
[Lords],  a s  [Lords.]

And  an Amendment was made to the Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read the third time. 

Several Public  Petitions were  presented,  and Public 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Victe Third 
Report. 
Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His  Army.  


Majesty's  Command,  Copy  of  Memorandum  

by the Director General, Army Medical Service,  

on  the  transmission  of  Enteric  Fever  by  the  

"  Chronic Carrier."  


The Order of the day being read, for resuming 
Local 
Government 
the adjourned Debate  on  the Question proposed 
?Englandand  uP9n  t h  e  7th  day  of  May last, That  the Local 
Wales) Bill.  Government Qualification (^England and Wales) 

Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till Tuesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Bishoprics 
Bill  [Lords.]  Second Reading  of  the Bishoprics Bill  [Lords]  ; 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 
upon Monday  the 21st day  of this instant June. 

Union  Officers  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Ireland)  BiU.  Second Reading  of the Union Officers (Ireland) 

Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read ,a second time 

to-morrow. 

And  then  the  House, having  continued  to 
sit  till  twenty  minutes  after  Eleven  of 
the clock, adjourned till to-morrow. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the 


Table. 


Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by Trade  Reports 

His  Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of Diplomatic (Annual 
and Consular Reports, Annual  Series, Nos. 4249

and 4250. 


  en 

Ordered,  That the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 


Table. 


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,—Return  Prosecution  of 
to  an Address to His  Majesty, dated the 7th day f j g ^ ^ f  3 ' 
' 
of this instant June, for a Return relative  to the  n.T 
Prosecution  of  Offences Acts,  1879  to 1908. 

N o.  1 7 7. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  also  presented,  Penal 

pursuant  to  the  directions  of  several  Acts  of 
Parliament, — Copy  of  a  Licence  under  the Licence!)118 
Penal Servitude Acts,  1853  to 1891, granted by 
His  Majesty  to  Alice  Essery,  a  convict under 
detention  in  Aylesbury  Prison,  permitting  her 
to be  at  large  on  condition  that  she  enter  the 
Branch Home of the London Female Preventive 
and  Reformatory  Institution,  Milton  House, 
Chelsea. 

A°ts 

V O L.  164. 

Copies  of  Orders made by the Council  of  the Shop Hours 

County  of  Devon  under  the  Shop  Hours  Act, Act, 1904, 
1904, and  confirmed  by the  Secretary  of  State 
for  the  Home  Department, fixing the hours  of 
closing  for  certain  classes  of  Shops within  the 
Parishes  of  East Stonehouse and Combe Martin. 

E  E  4 



216 	

21st June. 

1909. 

[No. 79. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 	 The Order of the day being read, for resuming Finance Bill, 

Table;  and that the said Return  be printed.  	

Mr.  Charles Nicholson reported from the Local 

Legislation  Committee  (Section  B) ;  That  in 
the case of  the Greenock  Corporation  Bill  they 
had  examined  the  allegations  contained in the 
Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and  amended  the  same 
so  as to make  it  consistent  with  the  provisions 
of  the  Bill  as  passed  by  the  Committee,  and 
found  the  same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and 
had  gone  through  the  Bill  and  made  Amend­
ments thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee 
of  Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the 
following  Member from Standing  Committee  A 
(in respect  of the Bishopric  of Sheffield Bill) ;— 
Mr.  Herbert  Samuel;  and  had  appointed  in 
substitution  (in  respect  of  the  said  Bill) :  Mr. 
Solicitor General. 

Mr. Fenwick  further reported from  the  Com­
mittee ;  That they had discharged the following 
Members from Standing Committee C (in respect 
of  the  London  Elections  Bill) :—Mr .Raphael,
Sir  Walter Foster, and Sir James Duckworth ; and 
had  appointed  in substitution  (in respect  of  the 
said  Bill) :  Mr.  Bertram  Straus,  Dr.  Cooper,
and Mr, Cleland. 

Looal 
Legislation 
Committee 
(Section  B.) 
Greenock 
Corporation 
Bill. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  A. 
Bishopric  of 
Sheffield  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee  C, 

London 
Elections 
Bill. 

Scottish 
Standing 
Committee. 

the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which, 
upon  the  7th  day  of  this  instant  June,  was 
proposed to  be  made  to  the Question,  That the 
Finance Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Which  Amendment was, to leave out the word 
"  now,"  and  at  the end  of  the  Question  to add 
the words  "  upon this day three months "—(Mr. 
Austen  Chamberlain)', 

And the Question  being again proposed, That 
the word "  now "  stand  part  of  the Question :— 
The  House resumed the said adjourned Debate. 
And a Motion  being  made, and the Question 
being put, That the Debate  be now adjourned— 
(Mr.  Cave):—It  was  resolved  in  the  Affirma­
tive. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of the Labour Exchanges  Bill; 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

Labour 
Exchanges 
Bill, 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, 
&c., Bill; 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  &e, 
Bill, 

Resolved,  That this  House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee, 

Mr.  Fenwick further reported from  the  Com­
mittee ;  That  the  following  Members,  repre­
senting  Scottish  constituencies,  are  appointed 
to  serve  on  the  Standing  Committee  for  the 
consideration  of  all  Public  Bills relating exclu­
sively  to  Scotland, and committed  to a Standing 
Committee :—Sir  John Barran,  Mr.  Clyde, Mr. 
Falconer, Mr.  Gibson, and Mr.  Scott Dickson. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Telegraph 

Second Reading of  the Telegraph  (Arbitration) 
Bill; 

(Arbitration) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Supply, 

Committee  of Supply ; 

Ordered, That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

Table. 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Malvern  Hills. 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Mr.  Mooney  reported  from the Committee on 
the Malvern Hills Bill  [Lords] ;  That  they had 
examined  the  allegations  contained  in  the Pre­
amble  of  the. Bill,  and amended  the  same  so as 
to make it consistent  with the  provisions  of  the 
Bill  as passed  by the Committee, and  found  the 
same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and  had  gone 
through the  Bill  and  made Amendments there­
unto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Ways and. 

Committee  of Ways  and Means ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Check-
Second Reading of the Checkweighing  in various weighing  in 
Industries  Bill; 

industries 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time Bin-

to-morrow. 

Mr.  Field,  supported  by Mr.  Harrington, Mr. 
Waldron, and Mr.  Nannetti, presented a  Bill  to 
improve the procedure and make better provision 
for  the  discharge  of  the  business  of  the Civil 
Bill  Courts  of  the  City and County  of Dublin : 
And the same was  ordered  to  be read  a second 
time  upon Wednesday next;  and  to be printed, 

Civil  Bill 
Courts 
(Dublin)  Bill. 

Bill  2 4 3. 

Bast  India 
(Deporta­
tions.) 

Ordered, That  leave  be  given  to  bring  in a 
Bill  to amend the Law relating  to  the Deporta­
tions  of  British  Subjects  in  India :  And  that 
Mr.  Mackarness, Mr. Bennett,  Mr.  Morrell,  Mr. 
Hart-Davies,  Mr.  Cobbold, Sir  Henry  Cotton,
Mr.  Fenwick,  Mr.  Ramsay  Macdonald,  Mr. 
Frederick  Edwin  Smith,  Dr.  Rutherford,  Sir 
Alfred  Thomas,  and Mr. Henry Joseph Wilson  do ment Bill; 
prepare and bring it in. 

till to-morrow. 

East  India 
(Deporta­
tions) JMll. 

Bill 244. 

Mr.  Mackarness  accordingly presented  a  Bill 
to amend the Law relating  to  the  Deportations 
of  British  Subjects  in India :  And the same was 
read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  to  be  read a 
second  time upon Wednesday next ;  and  to  be 
printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Buildings and 

Second Reading  of the Buildings and Engineer- Engineering 
ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The Order  of the day being read, for resuming cinemato­
the adjourned  Debate  on the Question  proposed graph Bill, 
upon the  21st day  of  April  last, That the  Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Criminal Law 

Second Reading  of  the  Criminal  Law  Amend- Amendment 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second time 
upon  Wednesday  the  30th  day  of  this  instant 
June. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Law Agents 

Second Reading  of  the Law  Agents (Scotland)  (Scotland) 
Act  Amendment Bill; 

Amendment 
BiU. 

No.  71.]  9  EDW.  V I I. 

9th—10th  June. 

217

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Friday next. 

Open Spaces 
(Scotland) 
Bm-

The  Order  of  the  day  befng  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of the Open Spaces (Scotland)
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Friday next. 

Mercantile 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Corporations  Second Reading  of  the  Mercantile Corporations 
and Companiesand  C o m p a n i e  g  (Municipal Franchise)  Bill;
(Municipal 
Franchise) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second time

upon Wednesday next. 

Tellers for theJ Mr.  Lonsdale, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Boland,:  


Tellers for the f Master of  Elibank,  

(Mr. Herbert  Lewis:  


Noes, 

So it passed in the Negative. 


}} 

32.

114.

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of  

the  clock  on  Wednesday  evening,  Mr.  

Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without  

Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing

Order,  it  being  then  seventeen  minutes  

after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Thursday

morning, till this day. 


Money 
Lenders Bill.  Second Reading  of  the Money Lenders  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

upon Friday next. 

[No.  72.]  

Thursday, 10th June 1909. 


The House met at a quarter  of  an hour  

before Three  of the clock. 


Firearms 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the
(Scotlandand  Second  Reading  of  the  Firearms  (Scotland
Ireland) Bill.	 

I r e l a n d)  B i

f f. 

a nd 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Post Office 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Lotteries and  Second  Reading  of  the  Post  Office  (Lotteries 
Matter)6 Bill,  and  Obscene  Matter)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Friday next. 

Infant Life 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Infant  Life  Protection
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Friday next. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Bank Holidays  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Bank Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a  second time 

to-morrow. 

P  B A Y E R S.

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report private Bills 

from one of the Examiners of Petitions for  [Lords']

Private Bills,  That  in  the  case of  the following  k S n o  t 

Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords, anci  referred  on previously

the First  Reading thereof, the  Standing  Orders inquired into 

not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are 
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with,  

viz.:— 


Lisburn  Urban  District  Council  Bill 

[Lords']. 


Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time.  


Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report Provisional  

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for Order Bills  

Private Bills,  That  in the case of  the following  g ^  a n d i Dg 

Bill, referred  on the  First  Reading  thereof, no applicable.)

Standing  Orders are applicable, viz. :— 


Marriages Provisional Order Bill. 


Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 


to-morrow. 


The  House proceeded  to  take into  considera-Glamorgan 
tion  the  Glamorgan  Water  Board  Bill,  as Water Board 
amended in the Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the South Eastern 
Second  Reading  of  the  South  Eastern  and and London,
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill ana\)o™er 
[Lords]  ; 

Railways  Bill 

Union 
Officers 
(Ireland) Bill* 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Union Officers (Ireland)
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 
upon  Thursday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of the clock. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Intermediate 
Education 
Board 
(Ireland)
(Bules.) 	

A  Motion  was  made, and the Question being
proposed, That  an humble Address be presented
to His  Majesty, praying that  the  Rules  of  the
Intermediate  Education  Board  for  Ireland  for 
the year 1909-10  be not sanctioned  till  they are 
amended  in  the  following particular:  Rule 12,
leave out paragraph (b)—(Mr,  Lonsdale) j 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Methwold and 

Second  Reading  of the Methwold  and  Feltwell 
Drainage Bill  [Lords]  ; 

BmfiSU.] 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Tuesday next. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders Local 

(No.  8)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a p^J®?"™®^ 
Orders (Wo, 8)
second time, and committed. 
Bill. 

The  House  being  informed  that  the  Lord Finance Bill. 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit 
till  after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Thursday
morning; 

Thursday,  10th June 1909 : 

And the Question being put; 

The House divided.  

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The Noes  to the Left. 


VOL.   164. 

Mayor  of  the  City  of  Dublin  attended  at  the 
door, he was called in;  and at the Bar presented, 
—A  Petition  of the Right Honourable the Lord 
Mayor,  Aldermen,  and  Burgesses  of  Dublin  : 
And then he withdrew. 

And the said Petition, praying the House not 
to  pass  into Law those  portions of the Finance 
Bill  which  bear  unfairly upon  Ireland,  and  to 
take  such  steps  as  will  remedy-the inequitable 

F  F 



Public 
Petitions. 
Vide Third 
Report. 
Trade Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

218 	

15th June. 

1909.  [No. 75. 


treatment  of  Ireland  in the particulars  set forth 
in  the  Petition,  was  read ;  and  ordered  to  lie 
upon the Table. 

Several Public Petitions were  presented,  and 

read;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Mr. Mooney reported  from  the  Committee  on  Private Bills  

Group  E  of  Private  Bills;  That,  for the  con- (Group E.)  

venience of parties, the Committee had adjourned 

till  Tuesday  next,  at  half  an hour after Eleven 

of the clock. 


Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of Diplomatic 
and Consular Reports, Annual  Series,  No. 4213, 
Copy of  Despatch from His Majesty's Minister 
Siam 
(No.  1, 1909.)  in  Siam,  forwarding  a  Treaty  between  Great 
Britain  and  Siam,  signed  at  Bangkok,  10th 
March  1909;  together  with  an  explanatory 
Memorandum (with Map). 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

• 

" 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,—Return 
to  an  Address  to  His  Majesty, dated the 19th 
day  of May last, for a Return relative  to  Army 
Commissions ( Promotion from the Ranks). 

Ordered,  That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Army 
Commissions 
(Promotion 
from the 
Banks.) 

N o.  1 7 8. 

Ordered, That  the  Local  Authorities (Legal  Local  

Expenses)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon ^ u^ r i t i es 

(Legal 
Monday next. 	
Expenses) 

Bill. 


The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported Indian  


the  Indian  Railways  (Sinking  Funds  Invest­
ment) Bill  [Lords],  without Amendment. 

Funds 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Bill  [Lords.]

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported North East  


the  North  East  London Railway Bill,  without 
Amendment. 


B m 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Runciman presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Board of 
Education, 	 Command,—Copy  of Regulations for Secondary 
Schools in force from  1st August 1909  in Wales 
and Monmouthshire. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie  upon the 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means reported Bungay Water 

the  Bungay Water  Bill '[Lords]-, with  Amend-  Bin 
ments. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Table. 

Railway 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 

Statistical  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Depart-
Beturns 
mental  Committee  appointed  by  the  Board  of 
(Departmental  Trade to  make  inquiries  with  reference  to  the 
f o rm  a nd  g c o pe   o f  t he   Accounts and Statistical 
Committee.) 
Returns rendered by  Railway  Companies under 
the Railway Regulation Acts. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-
Death 
Sentences in  sented to His Majesty, that He will be graciously 
Crown 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
Colonies. 	
before this House a Return showing the number 
of  Death  Sentences  and  Executions  in  British 
Crown  Colonies  and  Protectorates  during  the 
year 1908.—(Sir  Henry  Cotton.) 

University 
Colleges 
(Great 
Britain) 

(Grant in 
Aid.) 	

Ordered, That there  be laid before this House 
a Copy of Report  of  Advisory Committee, dated 
the 24th  day of  July  1908, and of the Treasury 
Minute  on  the  Committee's  Report, dated the 

3rd day of June 1909.—(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

Sir  David  Brynmor  Jones  reported  from 
Standing 
Committee A.  Standing Committee  A,  to whom  the Bishopric 
Bishopric of.  of  Sheffield  Bill  was  referred;  That  they had 
Sheffield Bill. 
gone  through  the  Bill  and  made  Amendments 
thereunto. 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported Durham 
the Durham  (County)  Electric  Power  Supply  gK&ower 
Bill  [Lords],  with Amendments. 

Supply Bill 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the [Lord»-1 

Table ;  and be printed. 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported Blackwood 

the Blackwood Gas Bill,  with Amendments. 

Gas  Bm-

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

The Chairman  of  Ways and  Means  reported Edgware and 
the Edgware and Hampstead Railway Bill, with Hampstead 
Amendments. 
Railway Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported London and 
the  London  and  North  Western  Railway Bill, Northwestern 
with Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  .Ways  and  Means reported South Western 

the  South Western and Isle  of  Wight  Junction 
Railway  Bill  [Lords],  with Amendments. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon 

of 

Wight 
Junction 
the  Railway Bill 
[Lords. ] 

Table  ;  and be printed. 

No. 179. 

No. 179. 

Bill 245. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That the Minutes of the Proceedings 

of the Standing  Committee  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee, be taken into consideration 
upon Monday next;  and  be printed. 

Sir  George Doughty  reported  from  the  Com­
Railway  Bills 
(Group  3.)  	 mittee  on Group  3  of  Railway Bills ;  That, for 
the convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Tuesday  next,  at  Eleven  of  the 
clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported Oxford and 

from the Committee  on the Oxford and District District 
Tramways  Bill;  That  they  had  examined  the Biiu"^ 
allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the 
Bill,  and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it 
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed  by  the  Committee, and  found the same, 
as amended,  to be  true;  and  had  gone  through 
the Bill  and made Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means reported Sligo and 

from the Committee  on the Sligo and Bundoran 
Railway Bill;  That  in  pursuance  of  the Reso-
lution  of  the  House  of  the  27th  day  of  April 

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No. 72.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

10th June. 

219 


last  Clause  38,  and  Clauses  87  to  96,  both 
inclusive,  and  so  much  of  the  Preamble  as 
relates thereto, had  been  struck out  of  the  Bill 
by the Committee. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  further 
reported  from  the  Committee;  That  they  had 
examined  the allegations  contained  in  the  Pre­
amble  of the Bill, and  amended  the  same  so  as 
to  make  it consistent  with  the provisions  of the 
Bill  as passed  by the Committee,  and found the 
same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and  had gone 
through  the Bill and  made  Amendments  there­
unto ;  and  had  also  amended  the  Title  of  the 
Bill, as followeth :—A  Bill for making Railways 
in  the Counties  of  Sligo, Leitrim, and Donegal, 
to  be  called  the  Sligo and  Bundoran Railway, 
and for other purposes. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

•Table;  and be printed. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 

from  the  Committee  on the  Watford and Edg­
ware  Railway  Bill;  That  they  had  examined 
the  allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of 
the Bill, and  amended the same  so as to make it 
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed by the  Committee,  and  found  the  same, 
as  amended,  to be  true;  and  had gone through 
the  Bill  and  made Amendments thereunto; and 
had amended  the  Title,  as  followeth:—A  Bill 
to  confer  further  powers  on  the  Watford  and 
Edgware  Railway  Company;  to  extend  the 
time  limited  by  the  Watford  and  Edgware 
Railway Act,  1906, for  the  purchase  of  certain 
lands, and for other purposes. 

[Title 
amended.] 

Watford  and 
Edgware 
Railway  Bill. 

[Title 
amended.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Plumage

of  Saie^or'0"

Exchange  of)
BU1­

The  Order  for  reading  a  second time,  upon 

Tuesday  next>  t h  e  Plumage (Prohibition  of Sale 
  o r  Exchange of) Bill  was read, and discharged. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be withdrawn. 

Education  of 
the  Blind  Bill. 
Bill  246. 

Mr.  Crooks, Mr.  Clynes,  and  Mr.  John  Ward, 
presented  a  Bill  to  provide  for  the  technical 
education, employment,  and  maintenance of  the 
Blind :' And the  same  was  ordered to be read  a 
second  time  upon  Friday  the  18th  day of  this 
instant June;  and to be printed. 

Trusts  Bill. 
Bill  2 4 7. 

Mr.  Rendall,  supported  by  Mr.  Beale,  Mr. 
Micklem,  Mr.  Stewart-Smith,  Dr.  Hazel,  Mr. 
Radford,  Sir  William  Bull,  and  Mr.  Hills, 
presented a Bill  to  declare  and  amend the Law 
relating  to  private  Trusts  and  Trustees :  And 
the same was ordered  to be read  a  second time 
upon Wednesday next;  and to  be printed. 

Business of 
the  House 
(Supply.) 

Ordered, That the Proceedings  on the Finance 
Bill have precedence this day of  the Business of 
Supply.—(The  Prime Minister.) 

Finance Bill.

The Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which, 
upon  the  7th  day  of  this  instant  June,  was 
proposed  to  be  made to the Question,  That the 
Finance Bill be now read a second time ; 

Which  Amendment  was,  to  leave  out  the 
word  "  now,"  and at the end of the Question to 
add the words "  upon this  day three  months "-— 
(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain); 

And  the Question  being again proposed, That 
the  word  "now"  stand part  of  the Question :— 
The House resumed the said adjourned Debate. 

And  the  Question being put; 
The House divided. 


VOL.   164.  


The Yeas  to the Right; 

The Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for the f Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

\ Master of Elibank : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the f S i  r  Alexander Acland-. 

Noes 
' 

.Hood> 

1 
(Viscount  Valentia : 

.J  3 6 6. 

1209. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
And the Main Question  being put; 
Ordered, That the Bill  be now read  a  second 
time:—The  Bill  was accordingly read a second 
time,  and  committed  to  a  Committee  of  the 
whole  House  for  Monday the  21st  day of  this 
instant June. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  [3rd June] 
the 3rd day of this instant June; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be received upon 

Monday next. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of [27th April] 
the 27th day  of April last; 

KePort-

Ordered, That the  Report  be  received upon 

Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking Supply 

into consideration  the  Sixth  of  the  Resolutions [22nd March] 
which, upon  the  23rd  day  of  March  last,  were (Deferred 
reported  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the Resolution.) 
22nd day  of  March last; 

Ordered,  That  the  said Resolution  be  taken 

into further consideration upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Supply. 

Committee  of Supply; 

Resolved, That this House will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Ways and 

Resolved, That this  House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Telegraph 
Second Reading  of  the Telegraph (Arbitration)  (Arbitration) 
Bill; 

BllU 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Check-
Second Reading of the Checkweighing in various weighing in 
Industries Bill; 

industries 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second time Bm­

upon Monday next. 

The Order  of the day being read, for resuming  Cinemato­
the adjourned Debate  on the  Question proposed sraPh Bill, 
upon the 21st day  of  April  last,  That the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 
Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Authorities Authorises 
(Advertising)  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 
upon  Thursday  the  24th  day  of  this  instant 
June. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  (Pro-
visional Orders) Bill; 

Orders)  Bill. 
" 

p  P  2 

Mr.  Steadman,  supported  by  Mr.  Summerbell,Committee  of Wayg  and Means ; 

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1909.  [No.  73. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  24th  day  of  this  instant 
June. 

0 

[No.  73.]  

Friday,  11th June 1909. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The House met  at Twelve  of the clock. 

Second Reading  of  the Biackgame  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Biackgame 
Bill. 

Irish  National 
Schools 
(Heating  and 
Cleansing) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Irish National Schools 
(Heating and Cleansing)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second time 
upon Monday the 21st day  of  this instant June. 

Inter-
communion 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Intercommunion  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

Pedlars  Acts 
Amendment 
BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend­
ment Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

Prohibition of
Vivisection

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Prohibition  of  Vivi­
section  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

Easter
Offerings Bill.  Second Reading  of the Easter Offerings Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
upon Monday the 21st  day  of this  instant June. 

Gambling  in 
Options 
(Prohibition) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Gambling  in  Options 
(Prohibition) Bill ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be «read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment (Water Rights) Bill  ; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Bank Holidays
Bm-

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the Bank  Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Union Officers
(Ireland) Bill.  Second Reading of the Union  Officers (Ireland) 

Bill; 

And  it  being half  an hour  after  Eleven  of 
the  clock,  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House without Question put, pursuant  to 
the Standing  Order, till to-morrow. 

THE  Marriages  Provisional Order Bill  was, Marriages 

according to Order, read a second time, and Provisional 

0rder BilL 

committed.

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented, and Public 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

r 

petitions. 
Vide  Third 
Report. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented, —  Return  to  an Gas 

Order, dated  the  31st  day  of  July  in  the  last  Undertakings, 
Session  of  Parliament, for a Return  relating  to  No. 180. 
all authorised Gas Undertakings  in  the United 
Kingdom, other than those of Local Authorities, 
for  the  year  ended  the  31st day  of  December 
1907. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  31st  day  of Gas 

July  in  the  last  Session  of  Parliament,  for  a  LTndertaking3 
Return  relating  to  all  authorised  Gas  Under- ^thorities.) 
takings  in  the  United  Kingdom  belonging  to 
Local Authorities, for  the  year ended  the 31st 
day  of  March  1908. 

Ordered, That  the  said Returns  do  lie  upon 

the Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented, —  Return  to  an  university 
Order, dated the 10th  day  of this  instant June, Colleges 
for  a  Return  relative  to  University  Colleges 
(Great Britain)  (Grant  in Aid). 

(Grant  in 
Aid.) 

Mr.  Hobhouse  also  presented, pursuant  to the Arklow 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of Harbour. 
Report  of  the Arklow  Harbour  Commissioners 
for the year 1908 ;  and a Statement of Accounts 
for the same period. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

, 

Mr.  Fenwick reported  from  the Committee of  Selection 
Selection  ;  That  they  had  discharged the  fol-  ^ S e s .  ) 
lowing  Member from Standing Committee C  (in standing 
respect  of  the Trade  Boards Bill) :—Mr.  Dick-  Committee  C. 
inson);  and  had  appointed  in  substitution  (in
Boards 
respect  of  the said Bill) :  Mr. Lamont, 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Union  Officers  (Ireland)  Union Officers 

Bill  be read a second time upon Monday next. 

(Ireland) Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the House Letting 

Second  Reading  of  the  House  Letting  and 
Rating (Scotland) Bill; 

jjili  ^ 

And a Motion being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second time; 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to be made to 
the Question,  by leaving  out  the  word "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day  three  months." —  (Sir 
Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  the Question being  put, That  the  word 

"  now "  stand part  of the Question; 

The  House divided. 

The Yeas  to the  Right;  

The Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
(Master  of Elibank : 

1 
/

Tellers for the ("Sir Frederick  Banbury,  ) 
(Mr.  Carlile : 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

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So  it was resolved in the Affirmative. 


 
 
 
 
 
 


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221 

And the Main Question being  put; 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be now read a second 
time :—The Bill  was  accordingly read  a  second 
time. 

A  Motion was made, and  the  Question being 

put, That the Bill  be committed  to a Committee 
of the whole House—(Mr.  Fell)  ; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Fell, 

Yeas, 

\ 
[Sir Frederick  Banbury :  J 

Tellers for the J Mr. Joseph Pease, 
(Master  of Elibank : 

Noes, 

So it passed in the Negative. 

[No.  74.] 

Monday,  14th June 1909. 
The House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 

before Three  of the clock. 


P B A T E K S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report provisional 

Private Bills, That in  the case  of  the  following ^ ( f r  t   a n d i n = 
B i l l,  r e f e r r ed   o n  t he  F i r st  R e a d i ng  t h e r e o f,

from  one  of the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for Order Bills 

  n o  applicable.) 

e 

1 5. 

S t a n d i ng  O r d e rs  a re  a p p l i c a b l e,  v i z.

  : — 

Lune Fisheries Provisional  Order BilL 

155. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The Bill was committed  to  a  Standing Com­

mittee. 

Trawling  in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
{Prevention") 
BiU. 

The Order of  the  day. being  read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited 
Areas  (Prevention)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  recommitted  to a 
Committee  of  the whole House  in  respect  of  a 
new Clause providing for the application  of  the 
Bill  to  Irish  prohibited  areas.—  (Sir  Thomas 
Esmonde.) 

Ordered,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
Committee  on  the  recommitted Bill  that  they 
have power  to extend  the Bill  to Ireland.—(Sir 
Thomas Esmonde.) 

Chairman  of 
Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Clerk  at  the Table informed  the House 
of  the unavoidable  absence  of  the Chairman of 
Ways and Means from this day's  Sitting. 

The House  immediately  resolved  itself  into 

the Committee. 

(In the Committee.) 

A.  Clause  (Application  to  Irish  prohibited 

The  Clevedon  Water  Bill  [Lords]  was  read Clevedon 
the third time and passed, with Amendments.  Water Bill 

[Lords.]

r 

' 
Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that this House 
hath  agreed  to the same, with Amendments;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

The House  proceeded  to  take into considera- Donington 
tion  the  Donington  Water  Bill  [Lords],  as Water  Bill 
amended in the Committee. 

[Lords.]

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The Barry Railway  Bill  [Lords]  was read  a  Barry 

second time, and committed. 

Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The Bristol University  Bill  [Lords] was read Bristol 

a second time, and committed. 

Bm^XarL ] 

The East Sussex County Council Bill [Lords]  East  Sussex 

was read a second time, and committed. 

ccuncU Bill 
[Lords.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Gateshead  and  District  Gateshead 
Tramways  Bill  [Lords]  be  read  a  second  time 5,nd District 
.
[Lo'rds.] 

Tramwavs 
Bil] 

areas)—(Sir  Thomas Esmonde)—brought  up, and to-morrow. 
read thefirst and second time ;  and added to the 
Bill. 

Title amended. 
Bill,  as amended, to  be reported. 

Mr  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy Chairman reported, That the Committee 
had  gene  through  the  Bill  and  made Amend­
ments thereunto;  and had amended the Title,  as 
followeth :—A  Bill  to prohibit  the landing and 
selling  in  the  United  Kingdom  of  Fish caught 
in Prohibited Areas  of  the  sea  adjoining  Scot­
land  or Ireland. 

[Title 
amended.] 

Ordered, That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee,  and  on  recommittal,  be 
now  taken  into  consideration:—The  House 
accordingly  proceeded to take the Bill into con­
sideration. 

A  Clause (Definition)—-(The Lord Advocate) 

—was twice read ;  and made part  of the Bill. 
Then Amendments were made to the Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

upon Tuesday next. 

Adjournment. 

Resolved, That  this House  do now adjourn.— 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to sit till six minutes  before Four 
of the clock, adjourned till Monday next. 

V  O L.  1 6 4. 

Ordered,  That  the  North  Eastern  Railway  North  Eastern 

Bill [Lords]  be read a second time to-morrow, 

^ords]Bm 

The Southport  and Lytham Tramroad (Aban- Southport 
donment) Bill [Lords^\  was read  a  second  time, S,nd  Lytham 
• xx  j 
and  committed. 

-i 

Tramroad 
(Abandon­
ment)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Stourbridge  and  District  Water  Board Stourbridge 
Bill  [Lords]  was  read  a  second  time, and com-  water  Board 
mitted. 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Musselburgh  Corporation  (Extension  of Musselburgh 
Boundaries,  &c.)  Order  Confirmation Bill  was, Corporation 
according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and ^ndaties °f 
ordered  to  be  taken  into  consideration  upon &c.) Order' 
Wednesday next. 
Confirmation 

Several Public Petitions were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Ordered, That the Return relative  to Univer­
sity Colleges  (Great  Britain)  (Grant  in  Aid), 
which  was  presented  upon  the  11th  day of this 
instant June,  be printed. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Third 
Report. 
University 
Colleges 
(Great 
Britain) 
(Grant  in 
Aid.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of Appendix  to the 
Report  of  the  Royal  Commission  on  the Poor 
Laws and Relief  of  Distress.  Vol. IIA.,  Index 
to Minutes  of Evidence (Days  35  to 48). 

No. 182. 
Poor  Laws and 
Relief  of 
Distress 
(Royal 
Commission.) 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

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222 

1909. 

[No. 74. 

Board of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Annual  Report 
of  the  Board  of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  of 
their  Proceedings  under  the  Tithe,  Copyhold, 
Inclosure,  Commons, Land Drainage, and  other 
Acts, for the year 1908. 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing  standing 
Committee B, to whom John Marshall's  Charity  ^™mittee B-
Bill was referred;  That  they had gone through Marshall's 
the  Bill,  and  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Charity Bill, 
same without Amendment  to the House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon , the

  No. 186. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey  presented,  by His 
Majesty's Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic and 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series, Nos. 4251  to 
4256, and 4259. 

Copy  of  Accession  of  Austria  and  Hungary 
Treaty  Series 
(No.  15  1909.) to  the  Industrial  Property  Convention,  1883, 

&c., 1st January  1909. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of Twenty-seventh Report of 
the Royal University  of  Ireland,  being  for  the 
year 1908. 

Copy of Report of the Intermediate Education 

sideration to-morrow. 

Board for Ireland for the year 1908. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Royal 
University  of 
Ireland. 

Intermediate 
Education 
(Ireland.) 

Criminal 
Procedure 
(Scotland) 
Act,  1887. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to 
the directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Act  of  Adjournal  under  the  Criminal  Pro­
cedure (Scotland) Act,  1887,  relative  to Capital 
Sentences. 

Ordered, That the said Paper do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Standing 
Committer  B. 
Rule 
Committee 
Bill. 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing 
Committee B, to whom the Rule Committee Bill 
was referred ;  That they had  gone  through  the 
Bill and made  an Amendment thereunto. 

No. 183. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

N o.  1 8 3. 

Ordered, That the Minutes of the Proceedings 

of the Standing Committee  be printed. 

B i ll  2 4 9. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee, be taken into consideration 
upon Friday next;  and  be printed. 

Standing 
Committee B, 
SirR. 
Whittington's 
Charity  Bill. 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing 
Committee  B,  to  whom  Sir  R.  Whittington's 
Charity Bill was referred ;  That  they had  gone 
through the Bill, and had directed him to report 
the same without Amendment  to the House. 

N o.  1 8 4. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

N o.  1 8 4. 

Ordered, That the Minutes  of the Proceedings 

of the Standing Committee  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That the Minutes of the Proceedings

  Ko. 186. 

of the Standing  Committee  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing 
Committee  B,  to  whom  the  Lichfield  and 
Longdon  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust 
Property  Charity Bill  was referred ;  That they 
had gone through the Bill, and had directed him 
to report  the  same  without Amendment to  the 
House. 

Standing 
Committee B. 
Lichfield  and 
Longdon 
Congregational 
Chapels and 
Trust  Property 
Charity  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

N o.  1 8 7. 

Table;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That the Minutes  of the Proceedings  No. 187. 

of the Standing Committee  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing standing 
Committee  B,  to  whom  the  Dewsbury  and Committee  B. 
Batley  Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill and^Batw 
was referred ;  That they had gone  through  the  Congregational 
Bill,  and  had  directed  him  to  report  the  same Chapel 
without Amendment  to the House.

Charities Bill. 


Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the

  No. 188. 


Table ;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That the Minutes  of the Proceedings

  No. 188. 


of the Standing Committee  be printed. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing standing 
Committee  B,  to whom  the  Wortley  Congrega- Committee  B. 
tional  Chapel  Charity Bill was  referred ;  That ^ a t i o n a  ,
they had gone through the Bill, and had directed chapel 
him to report  the  same without Amendment  to Charity Bill, 
the House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the

  No. 189. 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That the Minutes  of the Proceedings

  No. 189. 

of the Standing  Committee be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited 

Areas  (Prevention)  Bill,  as  amended  on  re­
committal,  and  on  consideration,  as  amended, 
be printed. 

Trawling  in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
(Prevention> 
Bill. 

B i ll  2 4 8. 

Ordered, That  the  adjourned  Debate  on  the 
Question proposed  upon  the  28th  day  of  April 
last, That  the  Dogs  (Exemption)  Bill  be  now 
read a  second  time,  be resumed  upon  Tuesday 
the 22nd day  of this instant June. 

Dogs 
(Exemption)­
Bill. 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself Supply 

into the Committee  of  Supply. 

^9th allotted 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason reported  from  Standing 
Standing
Committee B.  Committee  B,  to  whom  the  Bridgend  (Hope 
fffope English English  Baptist  Chapel,  &c.) Charity Bill  was 
referred ;  That they had gone  through the  Bill, 
Baptist 
aud  had directed him to report the same without 
Chapel, &c.) 
Charity  Bill.  Amendment  to the House. 

N o.  1 8 5. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

N o.  1 8 5. 
i -

Ordered, That the Minutes  of the Proceedings 

of  the  Standing Committee  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

(In the Committee.)  

Civil Services and Revenue Departments  

Estimates,  1909-10.  

Class  II.  


1.  Motion made, and Question proposed, That 
a sum not exceeding £140,800  be granted to His 
Majesty, to complete the sum necessary to defray 
the charge which will come in course of payment 
during the year ending on the 31st day of March 
1910 for the Salaries and Expenses  of the Office 
of  His  Majesty's  Secretary  of  State  for  the 
Home Department and subordinate Offices : 

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223 


Whereupon Motion made,  alnd  Question  put, 
That a sum not exceeding  £140,700  be granted 
for the said Service.—(Sir  Charles  Dilke.) 

upon  the  20th  day  of  April  last, was proposed 
to  be made to the Question,  That the Houses of 
Parliament Bill  be now read a second time; 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Hay, 
LMr. Peel-. 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the j Mr, Joseph Pease, 
(Master  of  Elibank: 

Noes, 

\ 
j 
\ 
J 

9n 

' 

Original Question put, and agreed to. 
2.  £11,461  to  complete  the  sum  for  the 
Salaries  and  Expenses  of  the  Office  of  the 
Commissioners  in Lunacy  in England. 

Resolutions  to  be reported. 
Motion  made, and  Question,  That the Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease),—put, and agreed to. 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned  


till Monday next. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship  JSchise­
(Enfranchisement)  B i l l; 
ment) Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Election of 

Second Reading  of the Election  of  Aldermen in 
Municipal  Boroughs Bill; 

Boroughs  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, That 
the Committee had come  to several Resolutions. 
Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received upon 

Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish Land 
[Advances, 

Committee on Irish Land [Advances, &c.] ; 

Resolved, That this  House  will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he was  directed  to 
move, That  the  Committee  may have  leave  to 
sit again. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Electric 
Second  Reading  of  the Electric Lighting  Acts  ^mentotl) 
Bil?j%-JsV 
(Amendment) Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Wednes­
day  next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said 
Committee. 

upon Monday next. 

•Supply 
T^Brd June] 
"Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 3rd day  of  this instant June ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

Supply 
£27th  April] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 27th day  of April  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

Supply 
[22nd  March] 
Report 
.(Deferred 
Resolution.) 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
into  consideration  the Sixth  of  the Resolutions 
which,  upon  the  23rd day  of  March  last, were 
reported  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the 
22nd day  of  March last ; 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be taken 

into further consideration upon  Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Marine 
Second Reading  of the Marine Insurance (Gam- %TmWn 
bling  Policies)  Bill  ; 

Policies) Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Milk and 
  Dairics  m

Second Reading  of the Milk  and Dairies  Bill;

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 
Second  Reading  of  the County Councils Mort- £ou?eils  T).„ 
Mortgages  Bill, 
J 
gages Bill; 

t , . ,. 

6  s 

°  

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking Board  of 
into consideration  the Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade Bill, 
amended in the Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 

sideration to-morrow. 

Committee  of  Ways  and Means; 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Wednes­
day next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Secretary of 
Second  Reading  of  the Secretary  of the Board Ag r®°^r°f 
of Agriculture and Fisheries Bill; 

and Fisheries 

e

Established 
Church 
<Wales)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church 
(Wales)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of  the London Electric Supply 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time BlU" 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assistant 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster Sostma.s^F„ 
General  Bill, 
,,, 
, 
(jreneral  B i l l; 

° 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Superannua­

Second Reading  of the  Superannuation Bill;

tl0n BllL 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Irisji  Land 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

to-morrow. 

Committee  on the Irish Land  Bill; 

Resolved, That  this House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Revenue Bill. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The Order  of  the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which, 

Vol..  164. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

F  F  4 

 
224 

14th—15^ June. 

1909. 

[No.  75. 

Labour 
Exchanges 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of the Labour Exchanges  Bill; 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second time 

Ordered, That the Oxford and District  Tram-  Oxford and 

ways  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Committee,  be District 
taken into consideration to-morrow. 

Bill™  ^ 8 

upon Wednesday next. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on the Housing, Town Planning, &c. 
Bill; 

Resolved, That this  House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Buildings and 
Engineering 
Works Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Buildings and Engineer­
ing Works  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of the Telegraph  (Arbitration) 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

Check-
weighing  in 
various 
Industries 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of the Checkweighing in various 
Industries  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Cinemato­
graph Bill. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the  adjourned Debate  on the Question proposed 
upon the 21st day  of April last,  That  the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

The  Lisburn  Urban  District  Council  Bill Lisburn 

[Lords]  was read a second time, and committed. counci^Em'01 

The  Manchester  Corporation  Bill 
was read a second time, and committed. 

[Lords.] 

[Lords]  Manchester 

Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Methwoid and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Methwoid and Feltwell f1eltwe11 
TJ-11  rV  J  n 
Drainage Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Drainage Bill 
[Lords.] 

• 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Gateshead and 

Second Reading  of  the  Gateshead and District 
Tramways Bill  [ Lords]  ; 

Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the North Eastern 
Second Reading  of' the North Eastern Railway Railway Bill 
Bill  [Lords]; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lune 
Second  Reading  of  the  Lune  Fisheries  Pro- fisheries 
Provisional 
0rder Bill. 

t  r\  i 
visional  Order  Bill; 

-n-n 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Tuesday next. 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till Monday next. 

Adjournment.

Resolved,  That this House  do  now  adjourn.— 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to sit till  two minutes  after  Nine 
of the clock, adjourned till to-morrow. 

[No.  75.] 
Tuesday, 15th June 1909. 
The House met at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three of the clock. 


P R A Y E R S. 


Private Bills 
[.Lords]
(Standing 
Orders not 
previously 
inquired into 
complied 
with.) 

M:R.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from one of the Examiners  of Petitions for 
rivate  Bills,  That  in the case  of  the following 
! Jill, originating  in  the  Lords,  and referred on 
the First Reading thereof, the  Standing Orders 
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are 
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
viz. :— 

Taff  Vale  Railway  (Rhymney  Railway, 

Vesting, &c.) Bill  [Lords']. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time. 

Blackwood 
Gas Bill. 

The House proceeded  to  take  into considera­
tion  the Blackwood Gas Bill,  as amended  in the 
Committee. 

The  Lord Advocate  presented  a  Bill  to con- Merchants 

firm a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Private 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, (Buchanan 
relating  to  the  Merchants  House  of  Glasgow and Ewing 
(Buchanan  and  Ewing  Bequests):  And  the 
same  was  ordered (under Section 7  of the Act) confirmation 
to  be  taken  into  consideration  upon Thursday Bill, 
next. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented a Bill  to con-Glasgow 
firm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Private Hospital for 
^ 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, o^er 
relating  to  the  Glasgow  Hospital  for  Skin Confirmation 
Diseases :  And  the  same  was  ordered  (under Bm-
Section  7  of  the  Act)  to  be  taken  into  con­
sideration upon Thursday next. 

Several  Public  Petitions were  presented, and Public 

read :  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

1 

. 
Vide Third 
Report. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His Army  (Special 

Majesty's Command,—Copy  of Statement show- Reserve.) 
ing,  by units,  the  number  of  Officers and  Men 
of  the Militia  (1)  present  at training  on date  of 
inspection,  1908,  absent  with  leave,  and absent 
without  leave;  (2)  transferred  to  the  Special 
Reserve  up  to  1st  October  1908 ;  (3)  the 
number  of  Militia  Officers who (a) resigned  up 
to 1st October  1908,  (b)  remained  on  that  date, 
(c)  joined  the  Reserve  of  Officers;  (4)  the 
number  of  Militiamen  who  (a)  took  a  free 
discharge  up to 1st  October  1908,  (b) remained 
on that date. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie  upon the 


Indian 
Railways 
(Sinking 
Funds 
Investment) 
Bill  [Lords, j 

North East 
London 
Railway  Bill. 

The House proceeded  to  take  into considera­
tion  the  Indian  Railways  (Sinking  Funds 
Investment)  Bill  [Lords]. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Ordered, That the North  East  London  Rail­
way Bill  be taken into consideration to-morrow. 

Table. 


Secretary Sir  Edward Grey presented,  by His Trade Reports­

Majesty's Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic  and (Annual 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4.236, 
4261, and 4262. 

es,) 

Ordered,  That the  said Paper  do lie upon the 


Table. 


No; 75.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 
Local 
The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His 
fscottadf  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Return  of  the 
Areas,  Population,  and  Valuation  of  Counties, 
Burghs, and Parishes  in Scotland. 

15th June. 	

street  improvements  and  other  works ;  to pur­
chase  the  Highgate  Hill  Tramways,  and  for 
other purposes. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

225 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Table. 

Post Office^  Mr.  Sydney  Buxton  presented,  pursuant  to 
Colonial Post.) the directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  the  Foreign  and  Colonial  Post  (Cash  on 
Delivery)  Amendment  (No.  7)  Warrant,  1909. 
Dated 31st  May  1909. 

Ordered,  T h at  t he  s a id  P a p er   d o  l ie  u p on  t he 

T a b l e. 

Revenue and 

The  Order  made  upon  the  3rd  day  of  this 

i n S t a nt 

J u n e > 

(EngTaSd,Ure	 
Scotland, and  House a Return relative to Revenue and Expen-
diture  (England,  Scotland,  and  Ireland)  was 
Ireland.) 
read, and discharged.—(Mr.  John  O' Connor.) 

  * h e re   b e 

b e f o re 

T h at

t h is 

I a id 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this House 
Revenue and 
  Return  showing, for the year ending  the 31st 
a
fffinglandUre
Scotland, and  day  of  March 1909,  (1) the amount  contributed 
by England, Scotland, and Ireland, respectively, 
Ireland.) 
to  the  Revenue  collected  by imperial  officers; 
(2)  the  Expenditure  on  English,  Scottish, and 
Irish  Services met  out  of  such  Revenue ;  and 
(3)  the  balances  of  Revenue  contributed  by 
England,  Scotland,  and  Ireland,  respectively, 
which are available for imperial Expenditure (in 
continuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No. 216 
of Session  1908).—(Mr.  John O'Connor.) 

Finance Bill. 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this House 
a Copy of  Enactments referred to  in the Finance 
Bill.—(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

Standing 
Sir Francis  Channing  reported from  Standing 
gmmitteea	  Committee  C,  to  whom  the Trade  Boards  Bill 
was referred;  That  they had  gone  through the 
Bin. 
Bill  and made Amendments thereunto. 

No. 190. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

No. 190. 

Ordered, That the Minutes  of the Proceedings 


of the Standing  Committee be printed. 


Bill 250. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  

Standing Committee, be taken into consideration 
upon  Monday next;  and be printed. 

New Member 
sworn. 

Thomas Lundon,  Esquire,  Member  for  the 
County  of  Limerick  (East  Limerick  Division), 
was sworn. 

Sir  George  Doughty  reported 

from  the 
London 
County 
Committee	  on  the  London  County  Council 
Council 
(Tramways  and  Improvements)  Bill;  That  in 
(Tramways 	
and  Improve-	 pursuance  of the Resolution  of the House  of the 
ments) Bill. 	 9th day of  March last the Committee had struck 

Mr. Mooney reported from  the  Committee  on Great 

the Great Yarmouth  Corporation  Bill  [.Lords]; Yarmouth 
That  they  had  examined  the  allegations  con-  BiU^zS.] 
tained in the Preamble  of the Bill, and amended 
the  same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent with the 
provisions  of  the  Bill  as  passed  by the  Com­
mittee,  and  found  the  same,  as amended,  to be 
true ;  and had gone through  the  Bill and made 
Amendments thereunto;  and  had  amended the 
Title,  as  followeth :—An  Act  for altering  the [Title 
area  comprised  in  the  Burgh  Castle  Separate amended.] 
Drainage  District, and for modifying the powers 
of the Drainage Board for  that district,  and for 
other purposes. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

M r. Ashton reported  from  the  Committee  on Folkestone, 
the Folkestone,  Sandgate, and Hythe Tramways Sandgate, 
Bill;  That  they  had  examined  the  allegations Trar^ays 
contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and Bill, 
amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it consistent 
with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as  passed  by 
the  Committee, and found the same,  as amended, 
to  be true;  and  had gone  through the Bill  and 
made Amendments thereunto ;  and had amended 
the Title,  as  followeth :—A  Bill  to  extend  the [Title 
time  for  the  construction  of  the  authorised amended.] 
Tramways  of  the  Folkestone,  Sandgate,  and 
Hythe  Tramways Company, and  for  the acqui­
sition  of  lands  in  connection  therewith,  and 
for other purposes. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Sir  Joseph  Leese  reported  from  the  Select  standing 

Committee  on  Standing  Orders  a  Resolution ;  Orders, 
which was read,  as followeth : 

That  in  the  case  of  the  Taff  Vale  Railway Taff Vale 

(Cardiff Railway, Vesting,  &c.) Bill  [Lords'] the  f ^g 
Standing  Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed  with ; Kai[way 
that  the  parties  be  permitted  to  proceed with Vesting,'&c.) 
their  Bill  on  the  condition  that  words  areBiU [.Lords.]
inserted  in  Clause  25  of  the  Bill  to  the  effect 
that  nothing  in  the  said  Clause  shall  alter  or 
repeal the provisions  of  Section 41  of  the Bute 
Docks Act,  1882,  or relieve  the Great  Western 
Railway Company from any obligations  to which 
they may  be subject thereunder;  that the Com­
mittee  on  the  Bill  do  report  how  far  such 
Order has been complied with. 

The said Resolution, being read a second time, 

was agreed to. 

out  of  the  Bill  the  powers to construct  Tram­
ways  Nos.  1,.3,  4,  5,  6,  7,  9,  and  Nos.  9A  to 
9H,  both  inclusive;  that  in  pursuance  of  the 
Resolution  of  the  House  of  the  27th  day  of 
April  last  the  Committee  had  inserted  in  the 
Bill  the  additional  provision  referred  to in the 
said Resolution. 

The House was  moved, That  the  Resolution Tafl Vale 

reported this day from the Select Committee  on Railway 
Standing  Orders  in  respect  of  the  Taff  Vale 
Railway  (Cardiff  Railway,  Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  Vesting,'&c.) 
[Lords]  might  be  read;  and  the  same  being Bi:1  [Lords.]
read; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time. 

Sir  George Doughty further reported from the 

Committee;  That  they had  examined  the  alle­
gations  contained  in the  Preamble  of  the  Bill, 
and amended the same so as to make it consistent 
with the provisions  of  the  Bill  as passed by the 
Committee,  and found  the  same, as amended, to 
be  true;  and  had  gone  through  the  Bill and 
made Amendments  thereunto ; and had amended 
the  Title,  as followeth :—A  Bill to empower the 
London  County Council  to  construct  and work 
new  tramways,  and  to  alter  and  reconstruct 
existing  tramways,  and  make  a new street  and 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to- Salmon, 
morrow,  the  Salmon,  Trout,  and  River Tweed Trout, and 
Fisheries Bill was read, and discharged. 

Fisheita BiL 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 
upon  Wednesday  the  30th  day  of  this  instant 
June. 

Mr.  Fenwick reported  from the  Committee  of  Selection 
Selection ;  That they had discharged the follow- (Standing 
ing  Member  from  Standing  Committee  C  (in standing6680 
respect  of  the  London  Elections  Bill) :—Mr.  Committee  c. 

VOL.  164. 

G  G 

[Title 	
amended.] 	

226 

15th June. 

1909. 

[No. 75. 

London 
Glover ;  and  had appointed  in  substitution  (in 
Elections  Bill.  reSpeCt  of  the said Bill) : Mr.  Arthur  Henderson. 
Scottish 
Mr. Fenwick further  reported  from  the Com-
Committee  mittee;  That  they  had  added  to  the Standing 
Committee  on  Scottish  Bills  the  following 
House Letting  'Fifteen  Members  (in  respect  of  the  House 
letting  and  Rating  (Scotland)  Bill)  :  -Sir 
(Scotland)
William  Anson,  Mr.  M'Arthur,  Earl  of  Ronald­
Bill.
shay, Mr. Stonier, Sir John Randies, Sir Berkeley
Sheffield,  Mr.  Carlile,  Mr.  Beckett,  Mr.  Pointer, 
Mr.  Albert  Stanley,  Mr.  Swift  Mac Neil L  Mr. 
M'Killop,  Mr.  Maclean,  Mr.  Hooper,  and  Mr. 
Ellis  Davies. 

Ordered,  That the Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Shop Clubs 
BilL 

BUI 251. 

Mr.  John  Ward,  supported  by  Mr.  Enoch 
Edwards,  Mr.  Brace,  Mr.  Fenwick,  Mr.  Bell,
Mr.  Steadman, Mr.  Thomas  Richards, and  Mr. 
Nicholls,  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Shop 
Clubs Act,  1902 :  And  the same was ordered to 
be read  a  second  time upon  Friday  the 9th day 
of July next;  and to be printed. 

Conveyancing 
Bill.: 

Bill  252. 

Mr.  Hills,  supported  by  Mr. Stewart-Smith 
and Mr.  Micklem, presented a Bill  to amend the 
Conveyancing and Law  of Property Act,  1881 : 
And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be read  a second 
time  upon  Monday the  28th  day  of  this instant 
June;  and to  be printed. 

Settled  Land 
Bill. 

B i ll  2 5 3. 

Mr.  Hills,  supported  by  Mr.  Stewart-Smith 
and Mr. Micklem, presented a Bill  to amend the 
Settled  Land  Acts,  1882  to  1890 :  And  the 
same was ordered  to  be read a second time upon 
Monday the 28th day  of  this instant June ;  and 
to  be printed. 

Mr.  T.  W.  Russell  presented  a Bill  to amend 
Fisheries
(Ireland) Bill.  t h  e  Fisheries  (Ireland)  Acts,  1842  to  1901  : 
the same  was ordered  to be read  a second 
Bill 254. 

time upon Tuesday next;  and to  be printed. 

A  Motion  was made, and  the Question  being 
Business of 
the  House 
put,  That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Motion  for 
(Irish  Land 
the  allocation  of  time  for  the  Irish  Land  Bill, 
Bill) 
(Allocation of  if under discussion  at  Eleven  of  the  clock  this 
night,  be  not  interrupted  under  the  Standing 
Ti(ne.)
Order  (Sittings  of  the  House) —  (The  Prime 
Minister) ; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
. 

( Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 
fSir  Alexander  Acland-

m 
,, 
Tellers for the J  R o (< 

-Noes, 

[Mr.  Henry  Forster : 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

|  259. 

I  66. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning, Ace. 
Bill 
(Allocation of
Time) 

A  Motion was made, and the  Question  being 
proposed, That  the  Committee  stage  (including 
any Motion  for  an  Instruction),  lieport  stage, 
  and  Third  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town 
Planning, &c.  Bill  shall  be proceeded  with  as 
follows:— 

O' 

1

(a)  Two  allotted  days  shall  be  given  to  the 
Committee  stage  of  the  Bill, and  the pro­
ceedings  on each of those allotted days shall 
be those shown in the second column  of  the 
table  annexed  to  this  Order,  and  those 
proceedings shall, if  not  previously brought 
to a conclusion,  be  brought  to  a conclusion 
at  the  time  shown  in  the  third  column of 
that  table,  and  on  the  conclusion  of  the 
Committee stage the Chairman shall report 
the Bill to the House without Question put; 

(b)  The Report stage  and the Third Reading 
of  the  Bill  shall  be  proceeded  with  and 
brought  to a conclusion on the third allotted 
day, and the proceedings  on that  day shall, 
if  not  previously brought  to  a conclusion, 
be brought to a conclusion  at 10.30  p.m.: 

After  this  Order  comes  into  operation  any 
day shall  be  considered  an  allotted  day for the 
purposes  of  this  Order  on which  the Bill  is  put 
down  as the  first  Order  of  the  day,  and  then 
proceeded  with;  provided  that  5  p.m.  shall  be 
substituted  for  10.30  p.m.,  and  2.30  p.m.  for 
7.30 p.m.,  as respects any allotted day which is a 
Friday : 

For the  purpose  of  bringing  to a conclusion 
any  proceedings  which  are  to  be  brought  to 
a  conclusion  on  an  allotted  day,  and  have 
not  previously  been  brought  to  a  conclusion, 
the  Chairman  or  Speaker  shall,  at  the  time 
appointed  under  this Order  for  the  conclusion 
of  those proceedings, put forthwith the Question 
on any Amendment  or Motion already proposed 
from  the Chair, and  shall  next  proceed succes­
sively  to  put  forthwith  the  Question  on  any 
Amendments,  new  Clauses,  or  Schedules moved 
by  the  Government  of  which  notice  has  been 
given, but  uo  other  Amendments,  new  Clauses, 
or Schedules, and  on any Question  necessary  to 
dispose  of  the Business to  be concluded, and in 
the  case  of  Government  Amendments  or  of 
Government  new Clauses  or Schedules  he shall 
put only the  Question that  the  Amendment  be 
made,  or  that  the Clause  or  Schedule  be added 
to  the  Bill,  as  the  case  may  be;  and  on the 
Committee  stage  of  the  Bill  the  Chairman, in 
the  case  of  a  series  of  Clauses  to  which  no 
notice  of  Amendment  has  been  given  by  the 
Government, shall  put  the Question  that  those 
Clauses stand  part  of  the Bill  without  putting 
the Question separately  as respects each Clause : 

Any  Private  Business  which  is  set  down for 
consideration  at  8.15  p.m.  on  any allotted  day 
shall,  instead  of  being  taken  on  that  day  as 
provided  by  the  Standing  Order  (Time  for 
taking  Private  Business),  be  taken  after  the 
conclusion  of  the  proceedings  on  the  Bill  or 
under this Order  for  that  day, and any Private 
Business  so  taken  may  be  proceeded  with, 
though  opposed,  notwithstanding  any  Standing 
Order relating  to the Sittings  of the House : 

On any day  on  which  any proceedings are to 
be  brought  to  a  conclusion  under  this  Order 
proceedings for  that  purpose  under  this Order 
shall not  be interrupted  under  the provisions of 
any Standing  Order relating  to the  Sittings  of 
the House: 

On  an allotted day  no  dilatory Motion  on the 
Bill,  nor  Motion  to  recommit  the  Bill,  nor 
Motion  that  the  Chairman  do leave  the Chair, 
nor  Motion  for  Adjournment  under  Standing 
Order  10,  nor  Motion  to  postpone  a  Clause, 
shall  be received  unless moved  by the Govern­
ment, and the Question  on such Motion shall  be 
put  forthwith  without  any  Debate;  and  if  an 
Instruction  is  moved,  a  brief  speech  from  the 
mover  and  from  the  Minister  in  charge  of  the 
Bill  shall  be  permitted,  and  thereafter  Mr. 
Speaker  shall, without  further  Debate, put  the 
Question thereon : 

Nothing  in this Order shall— 

(a)  prevent  any  Business  which under this 
Order is  to  be  concluded  on  an allotted 
day  being  proceeded  with  on  any  other 
day,  or  necessitate  any  allotted  day  or 
part  of  an allotted day being given to any 
such  Business  if  the Business  to  be con­
cluded has been otherwise disposed of;  or 

 
 
 
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15th June. 


(b)  prevent  any other Business	  being  pro­
ceeded with  on  an allotted  day  or part of 
an allotted  day  in  accordance  with  the 
Standing  Orders  of  the  House  if  the 
Business  to  be  proceeded  with  or  con­
cluded  under  this  Order  on  the  allotted 
day  or  part  of the allotted  day has been 
disposed  of : 

Table. 

Allotted  Day. 

Proceedings. 

Time for 
Proceedings to 
be brought 
to a  Conclusion. 

each  of  those  allotted  days shall  be  those 
shown  in  the  second  column  of  the  table 
annexed to this Order, and those proceedings 
shall,  if  not  previously  brought  to  a  con­
clusion,  be  brought  to  a  conclusion  at  the 
time  shown  in  the  third  column  of  that 
table,  and  on .the  conclusion  of  the  Com­
mittee stage  the Chairman shall  report  the 
Bill  to the House  without  Question put. 
(b)  The Report stage  and the  Third Reading 
of  the  Bill  shall  be  proceeded  with  and 
brought  to  a  conclusion  on  the  third  allotted 
day,  and  the  proceedings   on  that  day  shall, 
if  not  previously  brought   to  a  conclusion, 
be  brought  to  a  conclusion  at  10.30  p.m. 

First 

Second ­

Clauses 1 to  29  -

Clauses 30 to 52 

Clauses 53 to 56 

Clauses  57  to  73,  new 
Clauses,  Schedules,  and 
any  other  matter  neces­
sary to  bring  the  Com­
mittee  stage  to  a  con­
clusion. 

— (The Prime  Minister); 

7.30 

10.30 

7.30 

10.30 

After  this  Order  comes  into  operation  any 
day shall  be  considered  an allotted  day for the 
purposes of this Order  on which the  Bill  is  put 
down  as  the  first  Order  of  the  day, and  then 
proceeded  with;  provided  that  5  p.m.  shall  be 
substituted  for  10.30  p.m.,  and  2.30  p.m.  for 
7.30 p.m., as respects any allotted day which  is a 
Friday. 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be made  to 
the  Question,  in  1.  1,  by  leaving  out  from  the 
word  "  That "  to  the  end  of  the  Question, and 
adding the words "  having*regard to the demands 
made  by the  Finance  Bill  and  other necessary 
measures  upon  the  time  of  Parliament,  this 
House  declines  to allocate further  time  to  Bills 
which  cannot  be  adequately  discussed "—(Mr. 
Frederick  Edwin Smith),— instead thereof. 

And  the Question  being put,  That  the words 
"  the  Committee  stage  (including  any  Motion 
for  an  Instruction),  Report  stage,  and  Third 
Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Planning,  &e. 
Bill  shall  be  proceeded  with  as follows "  stand 
part of the Question ; 
The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the] Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
(Master  of Elibank : 

^qq

j 

1 ellers tor the]  Hood, 	

,,  f Sir Alexander Acland­

' (Viscount  Valentia  : 

106. 

J 

Yeas,	 
„ 

Noes, 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to  the Question, in 1. 4,  by inserting, after 
the word "  days,"  the words "  which shall not be 
Fridays."—(Mr.  Laurence  Hardy.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be  there  inserted : — It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

And  the  Main  Question,  so  amended,  being 

put; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

"I 

Yeas, 

Tellers for theJ	
Noes, 

I Master of  Elibank : 
fSir Alexander  Acland-

Hood,	

[viscount  Valentia : 

115. 

1
/

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Ordered, That the Committee stage (including 
any  Motion  for  an  Instruction),  Report  stage, 
and  Third  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town 
Planning,  &c.  Bill  shall  be  proceeded  with  as 
follows:— 

(a)  Two	  allotted  days,  which  shall  not  be 
Fridays,  shall  be  given  to  the  Committee 
stage  of  the  Bill,  and  the  proceedings  on 

VOL.  164. 

For  the  purpose  of  bringing  to  a conclusion 
any  proceedings  which  are  to  be  brought  to a 
conclusion  on  an  allotted  day,  and  have  not 
previously  been  brought  to  a  conclusion,  the 
Chairman or Speaker shall, at the time appointed 
under  this  Order  for  the  conclusion  of  those 
proceedings, put forthwith  the  Question  on any 
Amendment  or  Motion  already  proposed  from 
the Chair, and shall next proceed successively to 
put forthwith the Question  on any Amendments, 
new Clauses, or Schedules moved  by the Govern­
ment  of  which  notice  has  been  given,  but  no 
other  Amendments,  new  Clauses,  or  Schedules, 
and  on any Question necessary  to dispose of  the 
Business  to  be  concluded,  and  in  the  case  of 
Government  Amendments  or  of  Government 
new Clauses  or Schedules  he shall  put only the 
Question that  the Amendment  be made,  or that 
the Clause  or Schedule  be added  to the  Bill,  as 
the case  may  be ;  and  on  the  Committee stage 
of  the Bill  the Chairman,  in the case of  a series 
of  Clauses  to  which  no  notice  of  Amendment 
has  been  given  by  the  Government,  shall  put 
the  Question  that  those  Clauses  stand  part  of 
the Bill without putting the Question separately 
as respects each Clause. 

Any  Private  Business which  is  set  down for 
consideration  at  8.15  p.m.  on  any  allotted  day 
shall,  instead  of  being  taken  on  that  day  as 
provided  by  the  Standing  Order  (Time  for 
taking  Private  Business),  be  taken  after  the 
conclusion  of  the  proceedings  on  the  Bill  or 
under this Order for  that  day, and  any Private 
Business so taken may be proceeded with, though 
opposed,  notwithstanding  any  Standing  Order 
relating  to the Sittings  of the House. 

On any day  on which  any proceedings  are  to 
be  brought  to  a  conclusion  under  this  Order 
proceedings  for  that  purpose  under  this  Order 
shall  not  be interrupted  under the provisions of 
any Standing  Order relating  to  the  Sittings of 
the House. 

On  an allotted  day  no dilatory  Motion  on the 
Bill,  nor  Motion  to  recommit  the  Bill,  nor 
Motion  that  the Chairman  do  leave the  Chair, 
nor  Motion  for  Adjournment  under  Standing 
Order  10,  nor  Motion  to  postpone  a  Clause, 
shall  be received  unless moved  by the  Govern­
ment, and the Question  on such Motion shall  be 
put  forthwith  without  any  Debate;  and  if  an 
Instruction  is  moved,  a  brief  speech  from  the 
mover and  from  the  Minister  in charge  of  the 
Bill  shall  be  permitted,  and  thereafter  Mr. 
Speaker  shall, without  further  Debate, put  the 
Question thereon. 

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15th June. 

1909. 

[No.  75. 

Irish Land 
BiU 
(Allocation  of 
Time.) 

Nothing  in this  Order shall— 

(a)  prevent any Business which  under  this 
Order  is  to  be concluded  on  an  allotted 
day  being  proceeded  with  on  any  other 
day,  or  necessitate  any  allotted  day  or 
part of  an allotted day being given  to any 
such  Business  if  the "Business  to  be con­
cluded has been otherwise disposed of;  or 

(b)  prevent	  any other  Business  being  pro­
ceeded with  on  an allotted  day  or part of 
an  allotted  day  in  accordance  with  the 
Standing  Orders  of  the  House  if  the 
Business  to  be  proceeded  with  or  con­
cluded  under  this  Order  on  the  allotted 
day  or  part  of  the allotted  day has  been 
disposed of. 

Table. 

Allotted  Day. 

Proceedings. 

Time for 
Proceedings to 
be  brought 
to  a  Conclusion. 

First 

Second ­

Clauses 1 to  29 -

Clauses 30 to 52 

Clauses 53 to 56 

Clauses  57  to  73,  new 
Clauses,  Schedules,  and 
any  other  matter  neces­
sary  to  bring  the  Com­
mittee  stage  to  a  con­
clusion. 

7.30 

10.30 

7.30 

10.30 

A  Motion  was  made, and  the Question being 
proposed,  That  the Committee stage  (including 
any  Motion  for  an  Instruction),  Report  stage, 
and Third Reading  of  the  Irish  Land Bill, and 
the necessary stages  of the Financial Resolution 
relating  thereto,  shall  be  proceeded  with  as 
follows :— 

1.  Committee  Stage. 

Eight  allotted  days  shall  be  given  to  the 
Committee  stage  of  the  Bill, and  the  proceed­
ings in Committee  on each  allotted  day shall be 
those  shown  in  the  second column  of  the  table 
annexed  to  this  Order,  and  those  proceedings 
shall, if  not  previously brought  to a conclusion, 
be  brought  to  a  conclusion  at  the  time  shown 
in  the  third  column  of  that  table,  and  on  the 
conclusion  of  the  Committee  stage  the  Chair­
man  shall report the  Bill  to  the  House without 
Question put: 

2.  Report  Stage. 
Two  allotted  days  shall  be  given  to  the 
Report  stage  of  the  Bill,  and  the  proceedings 
thereon,  if  not  previously  brought  to  a  con­
clusion,  shall  be  brought  to  a  conclusion  at 
10.30  p.m.  on the second of such allotted days : 

3.  Third Reading. 

One allotted day shall  be  given  to the Third 
Reading  of  the Bill, and the proceedings thereon 
shall,  if not previously  brought  to a  conclusion, 
be brought  to a conclusion  at  10.30 p.m.  on that 
day : 

After  this  Order  comes  into  operation  any 
day  shall  be considered  an  allotted  day for the 
purposes  of  this  Order  on which the Bill  is put 
down  as  the  first  Order  of  the  day, and  then 
proceeded  with,  or  on  which  any  stage  of  the 
Financial Resolution relating thereto is put down 
as  the first Order  of  the day, followed  by the 
Bill, and is then proceeded with : 

Provided that  5  p.m.  shall  be  substituted for 
10.30  p.m.,  and  2.30  p.m.  for  7.30  p.m.,  and 
4  p.m. for 9 p.m.,  as the  time at which proceed­
ings  are  to  be  brought  to  a  conclusion  under 

the  foregoing  provisions  on  any  allotted  day 
which  is a Friday : 

For  the  purpose  of  bringing  to  a  conclusion 
any proceedings  which  are  to  be  brought  to  a 
conclusion  on  an allotted  day,  and have not pre­
viously  been brought to a conclusion, the Chair­
man  or  Speaker  shall,  at  the  time  appointed 
under this Order for the conclusion  of those pro­
ceedings,  put  forthwith  the  Question  on  any 
Amendment  or  Motion  already  proposed  from 
the Chair,  and  shall  next  proceed successively 
to  put  forthwith  the Question  on  any  Amend­
ment, new Clauses,  or  Schedules  moved  by the 
Government  of which notice has been given, but 
no other Amendment, new Clauses, or Schedules, 
and  on any  Question necessary  to dispose of the 
Business  to be concluded,  and in the case  of the 
Government  Amendments  or  of  Government 
new Clauses  or Schedules  he  shall put only the 
Question that  the Amendment  be made,  or that 
the  Clause  or Schedule  be added  to  the  Bill, as 
the  case  may  be;  and  on  the Committee stage 
of the Bill  the Chairman,  in the  case of  a series 
of  Clauses  to  which  no  notice  of  Amendment 
has been given by the Government, shall put the 
Question  that  those  Clauses  stand part  of  the 
Bill  without putting  the  Question  separately  as 
respects each Clause: 

A  Motion  may  be made  by  the Government 
to leave  out  any Clause  or  consecutive  Clauses 
of  the  Bill  before  the  consideration  of  any 
Amendments  to  the  Clause  or  Clauses  in 
Committee: 

The  Question  on  a  Motion  made  by  the 
Government  to  leave out any Clause  or  Clauses 
of  the Bill  shall be put  forthwith  by  the Chair­
man  or Speaker  without Debate : 

Any  Private  Business  which  is  set  down for 
consideration  at  8.15  p.m.  on  any  allotted day 
shall,  instead  of  being  taken  on  that  day  as 
provided  by  the  Standing  Order  (Time  for 
taking  Private  Business),  be  taken  after  the 
conclusion  of  the  proceedings  on  the  Bill  or 
under this Order for  that  day,  and  any Private 
Business  so  taken  may  be  proceeded  with, 
though  opposed, notwithstanding  any  Standing 
Order relating  to the Sittings  of  the House : 

On  any day  on  which any proceedings  are to 
be  brought  to  a  conclusion  under  this  Order 
proceedings  for  that  purpose  under this  Order 
shall  not  be interrupted under  the provisions  of 
any  Standing  Order  relating  to  the  Sittings  of 
the  House: 

On  an  allotted day  no dilatory  Motion  on  the 
Bill,  nor  Motion  to  recommit  the  Bill,  nor 
Motion  that  the Chairman  do  leave  the  Chair, 
nor  Motion  for  Adjournment  under  Standing 
Order  10,  nor  Motion  to  postpone  a  Clause, 
shall  be received  unless  moved  by the Govern­
ment, and the Question  on such Motion  shall be 
put  forthwith  without  any  Debate;  and  if  an 
Instruction  is  moved,  a  brief  speech  from  the 
mover  and  from  the  Member  in  charge  of  the 
Bill  shall  be  permitted,  and  thereafter  Mr. 
Speaker  shall, without  further Debate, put  the 
Question thereon: 

Nothing  in this Order shall— 

(a)  prevent any Business which  under  this 
Order  is  to  be  concluded  on  an  allotted 
day being  proceeded  with  on  any  other 
day,  or  necessitate  any  allotted  day  or 
part  of  an  allotted  day  being  given  to 
any such  Business  if  the  Business  to  be 
concluded  has  been  otherwise  disposed 
of;  or 

(b)  prevent  any other Business	  being  pro­

ceeded  with  on  any  allotted  day  or 

No.  M ]  9  EDW.  VII. 

15 th  June. 

229 

part  of  an  allotted  day  in  accordance 
with  the  Standing Orders of  the  House 
after  the Business  to  be  proceeded  with 
or  concluded  under  this  Order  on  the 
allotted  day  or  part  of  the  allotted  day 
has been disposed of: 

Table. 

Committee Stage.  


Allotted  Day. 

Proceedings. 

Time for 
Proceedings  to 
be  brought 
to  a  Conclusion. 

10.30 

10.30 

10.30 
7.30 
10.30 
10.30 
9.0 
10.30 
10.30 
10.30 

First 

-

Second -

Clause  1,  and  Committee 
stage  of  Financial  Reso­
lution. 

Eeport  stage  of  Financial 
Resolution,  and  Clauses 
2 to  4. 

Third 

-

Clauses 5 to  13  -

Fourth­

Fifth 

-

Sixth 

Clauses  14 to  16 
-I  Clauses  17 lo  33 
Clauses  84 to  39 
Clauses 40 to  50 
Clauses  51 to  57 

-

Seventh 

Clauses 58 to  60 

Eighth ­

Clauses  61  to  65,  new 
Clauses,  Schedules,  and 
any  other  matter  neces-
sary  to  bring  the  Com­
mittee  stage  to  a  con­
clusion. 

—(The  Prime  Minister); 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  in  1. 1, by leaving  out  from  the 
word " T h a t"  to  the end  of  the  Question, and 
adding  the  words  "  this  House  objects  to  a 
proposal which  unduly limits  the  time  allowed 
for  the  discussion  of  a  measure which,  by the 
admission  of  the  Government,  is  of  such  vast 
importance,  complexity,  and  length  that  it 
cannot  be  properly  discussed  in  a  Standing 
Committee "—(Mr.  Ashley),—instead  thereof. 

And  the Question  being put, That the words 
proposed to be  left  out, to  the word "  eight," in 
1. 6, stand part of the Question ; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Bight; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
r- 

m n 
Tellers for thej  Hood, 

\ 2gg 
1 Master  of Elibank : 
J 
(Sir  Alexander  Acland-  ) 

JNoes' 

[Viscount  Valentia-. 

L  86. 
J 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Question, in  1.42,  by leaving  out 
from  the  word " b e"  to  the  end  of  1. 45.—(Sir 
Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  the Question  being put, That  the words 

proposed  to  be  left out stand part  of  the Ques­
tion :—It  passed in the Negative. 

And  the  Main  Question,  so  amended, being 

put; 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the  Bight; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the J Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
.. 

I Mr.  Herbert  Lewis: 
iL  [ Sir Alexander Acland-

m  „ 
Tellers for the I  R o (<  

Noes, 

[Viscount  Valentia-. 

}
1
l.  8 0 . 
J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Ordered, That the Committee stage (including 
any Motion  for  an  Instruction), Report  stage, 
and Third Reading  of  the Irish Laud  Bill, and 
the necessary stages of  the Financial Resolution 

V O L . 1 6 4. 

relating  thereto,  shall  be  proceeded  with  as 
follows : — 

1.  Committee  Stage. 
Eight  allotted  days  shall  be  given  to  the 
Committee stage of the Bill, and the proceedings 
in Committee  on each allotted day shall  be jthose 
shown in the second column  of the table annexed 
to this Order, and those proceedings  shall, if not 
previously  brought  to  a  conclusion,  be  brought 
to  a conclusion  at  the  time shown  in the  third 
column  of  that  table,  and  on  the  conclusion 
of  the  Committee  stage  the  Chairman  shall 
report  the Bill  to  the  House without  Question 
put. 

2.  Report  Stage. 
Two  allotted  days  shall  be  given  to  the 
Report stage  of  the  Bill,  and  the  proceedings 
thereon,  if  not  previously  brought  to  a  con­
clusion,  shall  be  brought  to  a  conclusion  at 
10.30 p.m.  on the second of  such allotted days. 

3.  Third  Reading. 

One allotted day shall  be  given  to the Third 
Reading of the Bill, and the proceedings thereon 
shall, if not previously  brought  to  a conclusion, 
be  brought  to  a  conclusion  at  10.30  p.m.  on 
that day. 

After  this  Order  comes  into  operation  any 
day shall  be considered  an  allotted day for  the 
purposes of  this Order  on  which  the Bill  is  put 
down as  the  first  Order  of  the  day, and  then 
proceeded  with,  or  on  which  any stage  of  the 
Financial  Resolution  relating  thereto  is  put 
down  as the first Order of  the day, followed  by 
the  Bill,  and is then proceeded with. 

Provided  that 5 p.m. shall  be substituted  for 
10.30  p.m.,  and  2,30  p.m.  for  7.30  p.m.,  and 
4  p.m. for 9 p.m.,  as the  time  at which proceed­
ings  are  to  be  brought  to  a  conclusion  under 
.the  foregoing  provisions  on  any  allotted  day 
which  is a Friday. 

For the purpose  of  bringing  to  a  conclusion 
any  proceedings  which  are  to  be  brought  to 
a  conclusion  on  an  allotted  day,  and  have 
not  previously  been  brought  to  a  conclusion, 
the  Chairman  or  Speaker  shall,  at  the  time 
appointed  under  this  Order  for  the  conclusion 
of those proceedings, put forthwith the Question 
on any Amendment  or Motion  already proposed 
from  the  Chair,  and  shall  next  proceed  suc­
cessively  to  put  forthwith  the Question  on  any 
Amendment, new  Clauses, or  Schedules  moved 
by the  Government  of  which  notice  has  been 
given, but  no  other Amendments, new Clauses, 
or  Schedules, and  On  any  Question  necessary to 
dispose  of  the  Business  to  be  concluded,  and 
in  the case  of  Government  Amendments  or  of 
Government new Clauses  or  Schedules  he shall 
put only the Question  that  the Amendment  be 
made,  or  that  the Clause  or  Schedule  be added 
to the Bill,  as the case may be. 

A  Motion  may be  made  by  the  Government 
to  leave out any Clause  or  consecutive  Clauses 
of  the  Bill  before  the  consideration  of  any 
Amendments  to  the Clause  or  Clauses in  Com­
mittee. 

The  Question  on  a  Motion  made  by  the 
Government  to leave out any Clause  or  Clauses 
of the Bill  shall  be put forthwith  by the Chair­
man or Speaker without Debate. 

Any  Private  Business which  is  set  down for 
consideration  at  8.15  p.m.  on  any allotted  day 
shall,  instead  of  being  taken  on  that  day  as 
provided  by  the  Standing  Order  (Time  for 
taking  Private  Business),  be  taken  after  the 
conclusion  of  the  proceedings  on  the  Bill  or 
under  this Order for that  day, and  any Private 

G  G 3 

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230 
Business so taken may be proceeded with, though 
opposed,  notwithstanding  any  Standing  Order 
relating  to the Sittings of the House. 

On  any day  on which  any proceedings  are  to 
be  brought  to  a  conclusion  under  this  Order 
proceedings  for  that  purpose  under  this  Order 
shall not  be interrupted  under the provisions of 
any  Standing  Order relating  to  the  Sittings  of 
the House. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second time 


to-morrow. 


1909.  [Ko- ^ 

The  Order  of  the day being read, for taking Board of 
into consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade  Bm­
amended  in the  Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Merchandise 


On  an allotted  day  no dilatory  Motion  on the 
Bill,  nor  Motion  to  recommit  the  Bill,  nor 
Motion that  the Chairman  do  leave  the  Chair, 
nor  Motion  for  Adjournment  under  Standing 
Order  10,  nor  Motion  to  postpone  a  Clause, 
shall  be received  unless moved  by the  Govern­
ment, and the Question  on such Motion shall  be 
put  forthwith  without  any  Debate;  and  if  an 
Instruction  is  moved, a  brief  speech  from  the 
mover  and  from  the  Member  in  charge of  the 
Bill  shall  be  permitted,  and  thereafter  Mr. 
Speaker  shall, without further  Debate, put  the 
Question thereon. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Merchandise  Marks  Marks  

(Ireland)  Bill;  


(Ireland)  BilL 

Ordered, That the  Bill be read  a second time 


to-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dublin Police 


Second Reading  of the Dublin Police Bill; 

Bm-


Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second time 


upon Monday next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lunacy-

Second Reading  of  the Lunacy (Ireland) Bill; 

(inland) Bill. 

Nothing in this Order shall— 

(a)  prevent	  any Business which under this 
Order  is  to  be  concluded  on an allotted 
day  being  proceeded  with  on  any other 
day,  or  necessitate  any  allotted  day  or 
part  of  an allotted day being given to any 
such  Business  if  the  Business  to be con­
cluded has been otherwise disposed of;  or 
(b)  prevent  any other  Business  being pro­
ceeded  with  on any allotted  day  or part 
of  an allotted  day  in accordance with the 
Standing  Orders  of  the House after the 
Business  to  be  proceeded  with  or  con­
cluded  under  this  Order  on  the allotted 
day  or  part of  the allotted  day has been 
disposed of. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 


upon Monday next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government Government 
(Audit  of Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill; 

i ^ n t s) 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  time (Ireland)  Bill, 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Marine  

Second Reading  of  the Marine Insurance (Gam- insurance 

bling Policies)  Bill;  


Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Milk and 
Second Reading  of  the Milk and Dairies Bill;  Dairies Bill. 

Table. 

Committee Stage. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Allotted  Day. 

Proceedings. 

Time for 
Proceedings to 
be  brought 
to  a Conclusion. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 
Second  Reading  of  the  Countv  Councils Mort- Councils 
gages Bill; 
Mortgages 

" 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

First 

-

Second -

Third 

Clause  I,  and  Committee 
stage  of  Financial  Reso­
lution. 

Report  stage  of  Financial 
Resolution,  and  Clauses 
2 to 4. 

Clauses 5 to  13  ­

Fourth ­  

- 1 

Clauses  14 to  16 

Clauses  17 to 33 

Fifth 

Clauses  34 to  39 

Sixth 

­ 1 

Clauses  40 to  50 

Clauses  51 to  57 

Seventh 

Clauses 58 to  60 

Eighth­  

-<j 

Clauses  61  to  65,  new 
Clauses,  Schedules,  and 
any other  matter  neces­
sary  to  bring  the  Com­
mittee  stage  to  a  con­
clusion. 

10.30 

10.30 

10.30 

7.30 

10.30^ 

10.30 

9.0 

10.30 

10.30 

10.30 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Third  Reading  of  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited 

Trawling in 
Prohibited 
(Prevention)  Areas (Prevention)  Bill; 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  the third time 

to-morrow. 

Snperannua- 
tion Bill. 

The.  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Superannuation  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Secretary  of 
Second Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board the B°ard o£ 
of  Agriculture and Fisheries Bill; 

aiid Fisheries 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time Bill> 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assistant 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster i!ostma,3t®' 
i  -1-. -n 
G e n e r al  B i l l;	  

General  Bill. 

°	 

0 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland Jnland  _.„ 
-R, 
T>-II	 
Revenue Bill. 
R e v e n ue  B i l l; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the day  being read, for  taking Sir  R. 

into consideration  Sir R.  Whittington's  Charity  ^ ^ ^ y '  3 
Bill  (not amended in the  Standing  Committee); 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

1 y 

sideration upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the day  being read, for taking Bridgend 
into  consideration  the Bridgend (Hope  English ^ope English 
Baptist Chapel, &c.) Charity Bill  (not  amended chapel, &c.) 
in  the  Standing  Committee)  ; 

Charity Bill. 

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NO. 75.]  9  EDW.  YII. 

15th June. 

2 31 


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Vagrancy Bill. 

sideration upon Thursday next. 

Second Reading  of the  Vagrancy  Bill ; 

John 
Marshall's 
Charity  Bill. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read,  for taking 
into  consideration John Marshall's  Charity Bill 
(not amended in the Standing  Committee) ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Thursday next. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Tuesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap  Trains 

Second Reading  of the Cheap Trains Bill;

BiiI-

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second time 

Lichfield and 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 

to-morrow. 

Congregational *nto  consideration  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon 
Chapels and  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust Property Charity  Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing 
Charity  Bill. 
J 

Committee); 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Necessitous 

Second  Reading  of  the  Necessitous  Mothers 
(Assistance)  Bill; 

(Assistance) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Thursday next. 

upon Monday next. 

The Order  of  the day being read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 

Dewshury 
and Batley 
Congregational 
Chapel 
Charities Bin.  amended  in the Standing  Committee) ; 

. 
Congregational  Chapel  Chanties  Bill  (not 

,  J 

~ . .. 

.  / 

, 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Thursday next. 

Wortley 
The  Order  of  the  day being read, for taking 
Chagreigati0nal i n t  o  consideration  the  Wortley  Congregational 
Charity Bill.  Chapel  Charity  Bill  (not  amended  in  the 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Theatres and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music Music Halls 
Halls  Bill; 

Bil1' 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Firearms 
Second Reading  of  the Firearms (Scotland and (Scotland and 
Ireland)  Bill; 

Ireland) Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

Standing Committee) ; 

upon Monday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for taking 
Bishopric of 
Sheffield Bill.  into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield 

Bill,  as amended in the Standing Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next. 

Temperance 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  Temperance  (Scotland) 
Bill,  as amended  in the Standing  Committee ; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into con­

sideration to-morrow. 

Sea Fisheries 
Regulation 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of the Sea Fisheries Regulation 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

Second Reading of  the Local Authorities (Legal Authorities ^ 
Expenses)  Bill  ; 

^ t e s) 

_ 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second  time Bl11­

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Biackgame 

Second Reading  of the Biackgame Bill; 

BilL 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Tuesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Union 
Second  Reading  of the  Union Officers (Ireland) Officers 

. 

° 

(Ireland)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Criminal 
Second Reading  of the Criminal Appeal Bill;  Appeal Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Metropolitan 
Ambulances  Second Reading of the Metropolitan Ambulances 
Bill. 

upon Friday next. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Tuesday next. 

Law  of 
Murder 
(Amendment) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Law of Murder (Amend­
ment)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Friday next. 

Cruelty  to 
Animals 
(No.  3)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Cruelty  to  Animals 
(No.  3)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Friday next. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming 
Local 
t]ie  adjourned Debate  on the  Question proposed 
Government 
(England'and  upon  the  7th day  of  May last,  That  the Local 
Wales) Bill,  Government Qualification (England and Wales) 

Bill  be now read a second time; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Railways 
Second Reading  of  the Railways (Eight  Hours) (Eight Hours)
Bill; 
,  Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second  time 
upon Friday the 25th day  of  this instant June. 

BlU' 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial Industrial 
Tools Bill; 
TooisBiu. 

° 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Law Agents 

Second Reading  of  the Law Agents  (Scotland) ^Scotland) 
Act  Amendment Bill; 
Amendment 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time BlU­

upon Tuesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Open Spaces 

Second Reading  of  the Open Spaces (Scotland) (Scotland) 
Bill; 

ElU-

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

till  Tuesday  next. 

YOL.   164. 

upon Tuesday next. 

G  G  4 

Money 
Lenders  Bill. 

232 

15$—16$
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

June. 
Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the  third time Confirmation 

1909.  [No. 76. 

Second Reading  of the Money  Lenders  Bill; 

upon  Friday next. 

BlU-

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Friday next. 

Post office 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Lotteries and  Second  Reading  of  the  Post  Office  (Lotteries 
Matter) Bill,  and  Obscene  Matter)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second time 

upon Friday next. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment (Water Rights) Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Thursday next. 

Bank Holidays  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

1  • 

Second Reading  of the Bank  Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Several Public Petitions  were  presented, and Public 

read;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

vide ThM 
Report. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His Education 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Thirty-sixth (Scotland.) 
Annual Report  by the Accountant  for Scotland 
to the  Scotch Education  Department. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Secretary Sir Edward  Grey presented,  by His  Trade  Reports 

Majesty's Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic and (Annual 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4260, Scrles,-) 
4263,  and 4264. 

Ordered, That the  said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Colonial 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  No.  600 (Uganda, Reports 
Report for 1907-8). 

(Annual.) 

Finance  Bill.  Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return  to an Order, 
No. 191.  dated  the  15th  day of  this  instant June, for  a 

Table. 

Return relative  to the Finance Bill. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Ordered,  That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  pursuant  to  Stand-  London 
ing  Order  194c, —  Copy  of  Report  by  the County 
Treasury  on  Clause  23  of  the  London  County Phoney) BilL 
Council  (Money)  Bill. 

Adjournment.  A  Motion  was made, and the  Question  being  


proposed,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn—  

(Mr.  Joseph  Pease):—And  a  Debate  arising  

thereupon; 


Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  be referred  to 

the Committee  on the Bill. 

And  it  being  half  an hour after Eleven of 
the  clock,  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House without Question put, pursuant  to 
the Standing  Order, till to-morrow. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His Army  (Pay, 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  List  of  Excep-  Non-effective 
p 
"  Pay,  and 
tions  to  the  Army  Regulations  as  to  ~ 
, - r a  7 ?  Allowances.) 
Non-effective  Pay,  and  Allowances  sanctioned 
during the year  1908-9. 

[No.  76.] 

Wednesday, 1 Qth  June 1909. 
The  House met at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three of  the clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

Glamorgan 
Water  Board 
Bill. 

(\RDERED, 

That  the  Glamorgan  Water 
Board Bill be read the third time to-morrow. 

London  and 
North Western Railway Bill,  as  amended  in the Committee, be 
Railway Bill,  taken into consideration to-morrow. 

Ordered, That the London and North Western 

Sligo  and 
Bundoran 
Railway  Bill. 

The House  proceeded  to  take into considera-
tion  the  Sligo  and  Bundoran  Railway Bill,  as 
amended in the Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Copy  of  Return  for  the  year  ended  31st Army (Special 

March  1909  of Pensions specially granted under Pensions.)i 
Articles  718,  1089,  and  1124  of  the  Pay 
Warrant. 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Ordered, That there be laid before this House Gas 

a Return relating  to all  authorised  Gas  Under-  Undertakings, 
takings  in  the  United  Kingdom,  other  than 
those  of  Local  Authorities, for  the year  ended 
the  31st  day  of  December  1908  (in  continua­
tion  of  Parliamentary Paper, No.  180 of Session 
1909).—(Mr.  Tennant.) 

Ordered, That there be laid before this House Gas 

a Return relating  to  all  authorised  Gas Under- Undertakings 
takings  in  the  United  Kingdom  belonging  to  Authorities.) 
Local  Authorities  for  the  year  ended  the  31st 
day  of  March  1909  (in continuation  of  Parlia­
mentary  Paper,  No.  181  of  Session  1909).— 
(Mr.  Tennant.) 

North  East 
London 
Railway  Bill.  Railway  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  North  East  London 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing  standing 

Committee B,  to whom the Handloom  Weaving 
Bill  was referred;  That  they had gone  through weaving Bill, 
the Bill and made Amendments thereunto. 

B-

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  No. 192. 

Table;  and be printed. 

Oxford  and 
District 
Tramways 
Bill. 

The Ordi r of  the day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Oxford  and  District 
Tramways Bill,  as amended in the Committee ; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon  Monday next. 

Ordered, That the Minutes  of the Proceedings  No. 192. 

of the Standing Committee  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Bill 255. 

Standing Committee,  be taken into consideration 
upon Tuesday next;  and be printed. 

Mufselburgh 
Corporation^ 
BoundSies,0  poration  (Extension  of  Boundaries,  &c.)  Order 
&c.) Order 

The  House, according  to Order, proceeded to 
jnto  consideration  the  Musselburgh  Cor­

Confirmation Bill. 

Mr.  Charles  Nicholson  reported  from  the  Local 


Local  Legislation  Committee  (Section  B); Legislation  

That in the case of  the Cardiff Corporation Bill  g S n B .  ) 

they had agreed to the following Report:— 

Cardiff 



No. 76.]  9  EDW.  VII. 
Corporation 
Bill. 

That  under  the  powers  conferred  by  Order
of  the  House  of  the 8th March  1909  Clause 3 
and Part II.,  Water  (Clauses 5  to  14 inclusive), 
and Part III., Lands (Clauses 15 to 28 inclusive), 
and  Clause  34  (subsection (b) (1))  of  the  Bill, 
and  so much of  the Preamble  as relates thereto, 
were  referred  to  the  Committee  on  Group  C 
of  Private  Bills, who  had  considered  the  same 
and made Amendments thereunto. 

That  with  respect  to  the  Instruction  of  the 
House  of  the  19th  March  evidence  was  laid 
before  the  Committee  on  Group  C  of  Private 
Bills that the provisions  of the Bill are adequate 
for  the  supply  of  water  at  reasonable  rates  to 
the  agricultural  community  within  the  area  of 
supply,  and  to  any  person  or  persons  from 
whom any existing  or  natural  supply is  or may
be  withdrawn,  owing  to  the  works  or  under­
taking authorised by the Bill. 

Mr.  Charles  Nicholson further  reported from 
the  Committee;  That  they  had  examined  the 
allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the 
Bill,  and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it 
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed  by  the  Committee,  and  found  the same, 
as amended, to  be  true;  and  had  gone  through 
the Bill and made Amendments thereunto. 

16£7i  June.  	

2 33 


The  Labour  Exchanges  Bill  was,  according Labour 
to OrderOrder,,  reareadd aa seconsecondd  time;  and committed to ^hanges 
a  Standing Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Trawling in 

Third  Reading  of  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited 
Areas  (Prevention) Bill; 

(Prevention) 

And a Motion  being  made, and  the Question BiU" 

being  proposed, That  the  Bill  be now read  the 
third time; 

An Amendment was  proposed  to  be  made to 
the  Question,  by leaving  out the word  "now," 
and, at the end of the Question, adding the words 
"  upon  this  day three months."—(Mr.  Pirie.) 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the word 

"now"  stand part of  the Question ; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Master  of  Elihank  :  


158;

Tellers for the f Mr. Pirie, 

\ 

Noes, 

I Mr. Watson Rutherford : J  1. 


So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

And the Main Question being put; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be now read the third 

time :—The  Bill was  accordingly read the third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The  Marine  Insurance  (Gambling  Policies) Marine 
Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second (GaiSjUng
time,  and  committed  to a Standing  Committee. Policies) BilL 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Sir  George  Doughty reported  from  the  Com­
Bailway  Bills 
(Group  3.)  	 mittee  on Group  3  of  Railway  Bills;  That, for 
the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Tuesday  next,  at  half  an hour 
after Eleven  of  the clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Liverpool 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Mr.  Mooney reported  from the Committee  on
the  Liverpool  Corporation  Bill  [.Lords];  That
they  had examined the  allegations  contained'in 
the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and  amended  the 
same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent  with  the 
provisions  of  the  Bill  as  passed  by  the  Com­
mittee,  and  found  the same,  as  amended,  to  be 
true ;  and  had gone  through  the Bill  and made 
Amendments thereunto. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Supply. 

Committee  of  Supply; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Ways and 

Committee  of  Ways  and Means ;

Meana-

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Coal Mines 
(Check-
weighers) Bill. t a k e n   j n to   consideration  upon  Tuesday  next. 

Ordered, That the Coal Mines (Checkweighers)
Bill,  as amended  in  the Standing  Committee, be 

Application  of 
Ordered,  That the Minutes of Evidence taken 
Sinking Funds before the  Select  Committee  on Application  of 
Borrowing °£  Sinking Funds in exercise  of  Borrowing Powers 
in the  last  Session  of  Parliament  be printed.— 
Powers. 
(Mr. Masterman.) 

Application  of  Mr.  Masterman  reported  from  the  Select 
^nk^Funa, Committee  on Application  of  Sinking  Funds in
in exercise of
"
" 
Borrowing 	
Powers. 	

exercise of Borrowing  Powers ;  That  they had 
considered  the  matters  to  them  referred,  and 
directed  him  to  make  a  Report  thereof  to the 
House ;  together with  the  Minutes  of  the  Evi­
dence taken before them, and  an Appendix. 

N o.  1 9 3. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Hours of 
Labour 
(Bakehouses)
Bill. 	

Ordered, That  the  Hours  of  Labour (Bake-
houses) Bill  be read a second  time  upon Wed­
nesday next. 

Ordered, That the Proceedings  on the Trawl-
Business of 
the House 
ing  in  Prohibited  Areas  (Prevention)  Bill,  if
(Trawling in  under consideration  at  Eleven  of  the clock  this
Prohibited 
night,  be  not  interrupted  under  the  Standing
Areas 	
(Prevention)  Order (Sittings  of  the House).—(Mr. Secretary
Bill.) 

Haldane.) 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Superannua-

Second Reading  of the Superannuation Bill; 

tion Bil1, 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, foi  taking Board  of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade Bill, 
amended in the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be recommitted  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  in  respect  of 
Clause I,  subsection (2).—(Lord  Balcarres.) 

The  House  immediately  resolved  itself  into 

the Committee. 

(In the Committee.) 

Clause  No.  1  (Removal  of  limitation  on 

salary of President  of  Board  of Trade). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,1.  10, to  leate 

out subsection (2).—(Lord  Balcarres.) 

Question put, That the words  proposed  to be 

left out stand part  of  the Clause. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  John Ward, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Fenwick: 

1  gj
f 
\ 
(Sir  Frederick  Banbury. J 


Tellers for the [Lord  Balcarres, 

Clause agreed to. 

Bill  to be reported. 


H  H 







16th—11th June. 

O. 77. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman reported, That the Committee 
had considered Clause  1, subsection  (2),  and had 
directed  him to report the Bill, without Amend­
ment. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee,  be taken into consideration 
upon Monday next. 

Merchandise 
Marks 
(Ireland)  Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Beading  of  the  Merchandise  Marks 

( I r e I a n d)

 B  m 

. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Milk and
Dames Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

g e c o n  d  Reading  of  the Milk and Dairies  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Adjournment.

Resolved,  That this  House  do now adjourn.— 

(Mr. Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  twenty-one  minutes 
before  Ten  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till 
to-morrow. 

STANDING  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution  by Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing Committee. 

Mr.  Speaker being  of  opinion that the House 
Letting  and  Bating  (Scotland)  Bill  is  a  Bill 
relating  exclusively  to  Scotland,  the  Bill  will 
be  considered  by  the  Standing  Committee  on 
Scottish Bills. 

[No.  77.] 

Thursday, 11th June 1909, 

The House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of the clock. 

Provisional 
Order  Bills 

(Standing 
Orders 
applicable 
thereto 
complied 
with.) 

P R A TE  R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from one of the Examiners  of  Petitions for 
Private Bills,  That  in. the case of  the following 
Bills, originating  in the  Lords,  and  referred  on 
the First  Reading thereof,  the Standing  Orders 
which are applicable thereto have been complied 
with, viz. :— 

Local  Government  (Ireland)  Provisional 

Orders  (No.  1) Bill  [Lords]. 

Local  Government  (Ireland)  Provisional 

Orders (No.  2)  Bill  [Lords]. 

Gas  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  1)  Bill 

[Lords].

Gas  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  2)  Bill 

[Lords], 

Ordered, That  the Bills  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Provisional 
Order Bills 

<noStanding

Orders

applicable.)

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,-—Report 
from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
  Private Bills,  That  in the case  of  the  following 
Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords, and referred  on 
j T { r s t  Reading thereof,  no  Standing  Orders 
^ 
,are applicable,  viz.:— 

Electric Lighting Provisional Order (No. 2) 

Bill  [Lords]. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Glamorgan 
Third Reading  of  the  Glamorgan  Water Board  Water  Board 
Bill; 

BiU-

8 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third  time 

upon Tuesday next. 

The  House, according to Order, proceeded  to London  and 
take  into  consideration  the  London  and North  B ^ ^ m  ™ 
Western  Railway  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Methwoid  and 

Second  Reading  of  the Methwoid and Feltwell FeitweU 
Drainage Bill  [Lords]  ; 

B™ 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Tuesday the 6th day  of July next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Gateshead and 

Second  Reading  of  the Gateshead and District  District 
Tramways Bill  [L,ords] ; 

gill  [Lords,] 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 


upon Monday next. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the North  Eastern 

Second  Reading  of the North Eastern Railway  Railway  Bin 
Bill  [Lords]  ;  * 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Tuesday next. 

The  House, according  to Order, proceeded  to Glasgow 
take  into  consideration  the  Glasgow  H o s p i t al   ^pitaifo^ 
for Skin Diseases  Order Confirmation Bill; 

order 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the  third time  Confirmation 

upon Monday next. 

The House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Merchants 

take  into  consideration  the  Merchants  House  House  of 
of  Glasgow  (Buchanan  and  Ewing  Bequests) (BuSian 
Order Confirmation Bill; 
and  Ewing 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  the third  time orderStS) 

upon Monday next. 

Confirmation 
Bill. 

Several Public Petitions  were  presented, and  Public 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

Vide  Third 

Report. 
Mr.  Birrell  presented,  pursuant to the direc-  County 

tions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of. Rules Officers and 
made  by  the  Lord  Chancellor and  Committee  (i^nd)^ 
of  County  Court  Judges  under  the  County  1877  (Rules.) 
Officers  and  Courts  Act  (Ireland),  1877,  and 
the Labourers (Ireland) Act,  1906. 

Ordered, That the said Paper.do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey presented,  by His  Trade  Reports 

Majestv's  Command, — Copies  of  Diplomatic  (Annual 
and Consular Reports, Annual Series, Nos. 4266  enes') 
and 4270. 

Copy of Accession  of Cuba  to the Convention  Treaty  Series 

signed  at  Geneva,  6th  July  1906,  for  the 
amelioration  of  the  condition  of  the  Wounded 
and Sick in Armies  in the Field. 

16> 1909.) 

Copy  of  Exchange  of  Notes  between  the Treaty  Series 
United Kingdom  and  Germany confirming pro- (No-17•1909-) 
tocols defining boundaries  between  British  and 
German  Territories  in  Africa:  (1)  Gorege  to 
Lake  Tchad  (12th  February  1907);  (2)  Uba 
to  the  Maio  Tiel  (11th  March  1907);  22nd 
February—5th  March  1909  (with Map). 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant  Shop  Hours 

to-morrow. 

to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— Aot> 

 
 
 
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16£7i June.  235  


Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
Borough  of  "West Ham  under the  Shop Hours 
Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by the  Secretary  of 
State  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
hours  of closing for certain classes  of Shops. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Ordered, That there.be laid before this House 
Pauperism 
(England  and  a Copy  of  Statement  of  the  number of Paupers 
Wales) 
relieved  on  the  1st  day  of  January 1909,  and 
(Half-yearly-
similar  Statement  for  the 1st day of July 1909 
Statements.) 	
(in continuation of Parliamentary Paper, No. 130 
of Session  1908).—(Mr.  Masterman.) 

Board of 
Education. 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this House 
a  Return  showing  (1)  the  number  of training 
college  students  (male  and  female)  who  satis­
factorily completed  their  course  of  training  in 
the  year  1907-8; 
(2)  the  number  of  such 
students who  had  not  obtained employment by 
the 1st day of July 1909.—(Mr. Samuel Roberts.) 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this House 
Emigration 
and  Immigra- a  Copy  of  Tables  relating  to  Emigration  and 
tion. 
Immigration from and into the United Kingdom 
in the year 1908 (being a Statistical Account  of 
the Passenger  Movement  between  the  United 
Kingdom  and  Places  Abroad) ;  together  with 
Report  to  the  Board  of  Trade thereon (in con­
tinuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  292  of 
Session 1908).—(Mr. Churchill.) 

Sir  David  Brynmor  Jones  reported  from 
Standing 
Committee  C.  	 Standing  Committee  C,  to  whom  the  London 
London 
Elections  Bill.  	 Elections  Bill  was  referred;  That  they  had 
gone through the Bill, and had  directed  him  to 
report  the  same  without  Amendment  to  the 
House. 

No. 194. 

No.  194. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  t h  e 

Table;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That the Minutes  of the Proceedings 

of the Standing  Committee  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill (not amended  in the 
Standing Committee) be taken into consideration 
upon Monday next. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

to-morrow. 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported Education 

Board 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Education  Board 
Provisional 
Provisional  Order Confirmation (London, No. 2) Order 
Bill  [Lords] ;  That  they  had  considered  the Confirmation 
(London, 
Order  therein  contained;  that  the  said  Order 
No. 2) Bill 
ought  to  be  confirmed;  and  that  they  had [Lords.]
directed him  to report the  Bill,  without Amend-[Provisional 
ment,  to the House. 

Order 
confirmed. 1 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read the third time 

to-morrow. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported Education 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Education  Board Provisional 
Provisional  Orders  Confirmation  (Bucks,  &c.) Orders 
Confirmation 
Bill  [ Lords];  That  they  had  considered  the 
(Bucks, &c.) 
Orders therein  contained;  that  the said Orders BiU [Lords.]
ought  to  be  confirmed ;  and  that  they  had [Provisional 
directed him to report the Bill, without Amend-Orders 
ment,  to the House. 

confirmed.] 

Board 

° Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

to-morrow. 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported Bio Tinto 

the  Rio  Tinto  Company Bill  [Lords],  without 
Amendment. 

°r 

BiU 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported Pontypool Gas 

from the Committee  on  the  Pontypool  Gas  ^ ^ n r ^ J j  i 
Water  Bill  [Lords]  ;  That  they had  examined  1  ^ " 
,,J 
the  allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of 
the  Bill,  and  verbally amended the  same,  and 
found  the  same,  as  amended,  to  be true;  and 
had  gone  through  the  Bill  and  made Amend­
ments thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table ;  and be printed. 


Labour 

A  Motion  being  made, That this House will, 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported London and 

upon Monday next,  resolve  itself  into  a  Com­
[Salaries, &c.]  mjttee to consider  of  authorising  the  payment, 
out  of  moneys  provided  by Parliament,  of  the 
salaries  and  remuneration  of  officers  and  ser­
vants  appointed  under  any Act  of  the  present 
Session  to  provide  for  the  establishment  of 
Labour  Exchanges,  and  for  other  purposes 
incidental thereto, and of any expenses  incurred 
by  the  Board  of  Trade  in  pursuance  of  such 
Act—(Mr.  Churchill)  ; 

Mr.  Churchill,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted  the  House that His  Majesty, having 
been  informed  of  the  subject-matter  of  this 
Motion, recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of 
the House. 

from the  Committee  on  the  London and South 
Western Railway Bill  [Lords]  ;  That  they had [ZoJdl.] 
examined  the  allegations  contained  in the Pre­
amble  of  the  Bill,  and  amended  the  same  so 
as to make it  consistent  with  the  provisions  of 
the Bill  as passed  by the  Committee, and found 
the  same,  as  amended,  to  be  true ;  and  had 
gone  through  the  Bill  and  made Amendments 
thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to-Criminal 
morrow, the Criminal Appeal Bill  was read, and Appeal Bill, 
discharged. 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

upon Friday the 25th day  of this instant June. 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 
Education 
Board 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Education  Board 
Provisional 
Provisional Order Confirmation (London,  No. 1) 
Order 	
Confirmation 	 Bill  [Lords];  That  they  had  considered  the 
(London, 
Order  therein  contained;  that  the  said  Order 
No. 1)  Bill 
ought  to  be  confirmed;  and  that  they  had 
[Lords. ] 	
[Provisional 	 directed him  to report the Bill, without Amend-
Order 
confirmed.] 

ment,  to the House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

V O L . 1 6 4. 

Ordered,  That  the  Small  Holdings  (No.  2)  Small 
Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Wednesday Holdings 
next. 

/ ( N o.   2) Bill. 

The  Order  for resuming, upon Monday next, Sweated 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which, industries 
upon  the  26th  day  of  March  last,  was  pro­
posed  to  be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the 
Sweated Industries  Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time, was read, and discharged. 

' 

-	

-

-

-

H  H  2 

llih—l&th  June.  	

1909.  [No. 77. 


Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till  Monday the 26th day  of July next. 

Shops  Bill. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon 
Monday  next,  the  Shops  Bill  was  read, . and 
discharged. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a, second time 

upon Monday the 26th day  of July next. 

Mr.  Ramsay  Macdonald,  supported  by  Sir 
Plumage 
(Prohibition  William  Anson,  Mr.  Talbot,  Mr.  Radford,  Mr. 
of  Sale  or 
Exchange  of)  Butcher,  and Mr. Lehmann, presented  a  Bill  to 
( N o.   2)  BiU.  prohibit  the  sale  or  exchange  of  Plumage and 
Bin  256.  	 Skins  of certain Wild  Birds:  And the same was 
ordered to  be read  a  second time  upon  Monday 
next;  and to  be printed. 

The House divided.  

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for the j  Sir JDaniel Goddard, 


Yeas, 

( Mr.  Cowan : 


Tellers for the ( Mr.  William  Thome,  


Noes, 

( Mr.  Curran:  


203. 

4 3/ 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

And  the Main Question being put; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be now  read the third 

time :—The  Bill was accordingly read the third  

time and passed. 


Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry the Bill  to  


the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 


Business of 
the  House 
^Supply.) 

A  Motion was made, and the  Question  being 

put,  That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Business  of 
Supply,  if  under  discussion  at  Eleven  of  the 
clock this night,  be  not  interrupted  under  the 
Standing  Order  (Sittings  of  the  House), not­
withstanding  anything in Standing Order No. 35 
—(The  Prime Minister) ; 

The  House divided. 

The Yeas  to the Right j 

The  Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas,	 

( Mr.  Herbert  Lewis-, 

Tellers for the ( Lord Edmund Talbot,  )  57. 
| Mr.  Pike Pease: 

Noes, 

j 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

Supply 
goth allotted  i n t  0  t h  e  Committee  of  Supply. 

The House, according to Order, resolved itself 

(In  the Committee.) 

Civil  Services  and Revenue Departments 
Estimates,  1909-10. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Great  Western 

Second Reading  of  the  Great Western  Railway Rai^ay 
(Steam  Vessels)  Bill  [Lords']  ; 

V e S)  Bill 

And a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question [Lords.] 


being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read a 

second time;  


An Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made to 

the Question,  by  leaving  out  the word  "now,"  

and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding the  

words  "upon  this  day  three  months."—(Mr.  

Walter Rea.) 

1 
j 

223. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  word 

"  now "  stand part of the Question ; 

The  House divided. 
The  Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left.. 
Tellers for the f Mr. John William  Wilson,\ 
J 
| Mr.  Baldwin : 
i 
j 

Tellers for the \ Mr.  Walter  Rea, 

I Mr.  M Arthur-. 

Yeas, 

Noes,	 

48. 

So it  was resolved in the Affirmative. 
And the Main Question  being put ; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  now read  a second 
time :—The Bill  was  accordingly  read a second 
time, and committed. 

Class  II. 
1.  Motion made, and Question proposed, That 
a sum not exceeding £169,294  be granted to His 
Majesty, to complete the sum necessary to defray 
the  charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  pay­
ment  during the year ending  on the 31st day of 
March 1910  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses  ot 
the Local Government  Board : 

Whereupon  Motion  made, and  Question pro­
posed,  That  Item A  (Salaries  and  Wages)  be 
reduced by £100,  in  respect  of  the  Salary  of 
the President  of  the  Local  Government Board 
—(Lord  Edmund  Talbot)  :—Motion,  by leave, 
withdrawn. 

Original Question again proposed: 

And  it being a quarter of  an hour after Eight 
of  the  clock, and  there  being Private  Business 
set  down by direction  of  the Chairman  of Ways 
and Means under Standing Order No. 8, further 
proceeding was postponed without Question put. 

Gas  Light  and  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Ooke  Company Third  Reading  of  the  Gas  Light  and  Coke 

Company  Bill; 

And  a  Motion being made, and the  Question 
being  proposed, That  the  Bill  be now  read the 
third time ; 

An Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made to 
the Question,  by leaving  out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at the end of the Question, adding the words 
"upon  this  day three  months."—(Mr.  William 
Thome.) 

And the Question  being  put, That  the  word 

"  now "  stand part  of the Question ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the South  Eastern 
Second  Reading  of  the  South  Eastern  and  j ^ ^  1 0 1 1  ' 
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover.  Railways  Bill and j)ove'r 
[Lords]  ; 

Railways  Bill 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday next. 

Postponed  proceeding  on  Question,  That  a Supply 

sum not exceeding  £169,294  be  granted'to  His 
Majesty,  to complete the sum necessary to defray  Departments 
the  charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  pay-  Estimates.) 
ment during the year ending  on  the 31st day of 
March  1910  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses  of 
the Local  Government .Board, resumed. 

Question again proposed : 

Question put, and agreed to. 


Class  IV. 

2.  Motion made, and Question proposed, That 
a sum not exceeding £821,921  be granted  to His 
Majesty, to complete the sum necessary to defray 
the charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  pay­
ment during  the  year  ending  on the 31st day of 
March  1910  for  the  Expenses  of  the Commis­
sioners of National Education in Ireland, including 
a  Grant  in Aid  of  the Teachers' Pension Fund, 
Ireland: 

Friday,  18th June 1909 : 


Question put, and agreed to. 

Resolutions to  be reported. 




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17$—18$ June. 

O« 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  come  to  several  Resolutions. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the inter-


Second  Reading  of  the  Intercommunion  Bill  ; 

communion 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Monday  next. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That the  Committee  may have  leave  to  sit 
again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into,  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

' 

"Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
Sir R. 
Whittington's  take  into  consideration  Sir  R.  Whittington's 
Charity  Bill.  Charity  Bill  (not  amended 
in  the  Standing 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pedlars Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-  Amendment 
ment  BiU; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Prohibition of 

Second Reading of  the Prohibition  of  Vivisection  Vivisection 
Bill;  

B l"­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  dav  being  read,  for  the  Theatres and 

Second  Reading  of  the"  Theatres  and  M u s
Halls  Bill; 

ic   ^ i  c  Halls 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Committee). 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  the  third  time 

this  day. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
Bridgend 
Ba"tistEngUsh  t a k  e 
(Hope 
Ohapel, &o.)  English  Baptist  Chapel,  &c.)  Charity  Bill  (not 
Charity Bill,  amended in  the  Standing  Committee). 

i n t  o  consideration  the  Bridgend 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

this  day. 

John 
Marshall's 
Charity  Bill. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  John  Marshall's  Charity 
Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing  Gommittee). 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

this  day. 

, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Health 
. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  A ct  ^ e£dmelt 
(Water™ 6*1 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  Rights)  Bill, 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Road Traffic 

Second  Reading  of  the  Road  Traffic  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  29th  day  of  this  instant 
June. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Civil Bill 

Second Reading of  the Civil  Bill Courts  (Dublin)  

m }  ' 

Lichfield and 
Longdon 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

take  into  consideration  the  Lichfield  and  Long­

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Chapeis1mdnal don  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust Property  Charity  Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing 
Charity  Bill.  Committee). 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Bast India 
Second Reading of the  East India  (Deportations)  (Deportations) 
B i l l;  

BlU< 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Dewsbury 
The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
Con ^eeatTonal take  into consideration the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 
Chapel 
(not 
Charities Bill,  amended  in the  Standing  Committee). 

Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trasts Bill. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Trusts  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the Bill   be  read  the  third  time 

this  day. 

this  day. 

Wortley 
The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
Congregational take  into  consideration  the  Wortley  Congre-
gational  Chapel  Charity  Bill  (not  amended  in 
Charity Bill 
the  Standing  Committee). 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

this  day, 

Temperance 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Temperance  (Scotland) 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Friday  the  25th  day  of  this 
instant  June. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Foreign and 
Colonial  Meat  Second  Reading  of  the  Foreign  and  Colonial 
Bill. 

Meat  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Death 
Certificates 
(Charges) Bill.  ^ C h a r g e s)  BUI • 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Death  Certificates 

Second  Reading  of 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  the  14th  day  of  July  next. 

YOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap Trains 

Second  Reading  of  the  Cheap  Trains  B i l l;  

B i lL 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Union Officers 
Second  Reading  of  the  Union  Officers (Ireland)  (inland)  Bin. 
B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial JLnd?3t^f,1 
Tools  B i l l; 
Tools Bin. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

And  notice  being taken that Forty  Members  

were  not  present,  the  House  was  told  by  

Mr.  Speaker;  and  Forty  Members  not  

being  present,  and  it  being  then  after  

Four  of  the  clock, 
the  House  was 
adjourned  by  Mr.  Speaker  without  a 
Question  first  put,  at  a  quarter  of  an  

hour  after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Friday  

morning,  till  this  day.  


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17 th—18th June. 

1909. 

[No.  78. 

S T A N D I NG  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution by Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

Name  of Bill. 

Standing 
Committee. 

Labour  E x c h a n g es  Bill 

Marine  Insurance  (Gambling  Poli­

cies) Bill. 


[No.  78.] 

Friday,  IS th June 1909. 

The  House met  at  Twelve  of the clock. 

P  R A Y E R S. 

TH E  Blackwood  Gas Bill  was  read  the  third 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 

time and passed. 

the  Lords, and desire  their concurrence. 

The  Indian  Railways (Sinking  Funds  Invest­
ment) Bill  [Lords']  was read the  third  time  and 

Ordered,  That  the Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the Lords ;  and  acquaint them  that  this  House 
hath agreed to the same, without Amendment. 

Blackwood 
Gas  Bill. 

Indian 
Bail ways 
(Sinking 
Funds 
Investment) 
[Lords.] 
Bill 

Bnngay Water
Bill  [Lords.]

  The  House  proceeded  to take  into  considera­
t i o  n  t h  e  Bungay Water Bill  [Lords],  as amended 
in the  Committee. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read the third time. 

Edgware  and
Hampstead
Railway  Bill.

The House  proceeded  to take  into  considera­
t j o n   t h e  Edgware and  Hampstead  Railway  Bill, 

J 

.i 
as  amended  in the  Committee. 

-i  • 

n  

, r 

3 

Local 
Government 
(Ireland) 
Provisional 
Orders (No.   1 ) 
Bill 
Local 

[Lords.] 

Government 
(Ireland) 
Provisional 
Orders (No.  2> 
Bill  [Lords.] 
Gas  Orders 
Confirmation 
(No.   1)  BiU 
[Lords.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to  (London, 

the Lords;  and  acquaint  them that  t h is  H o u se  
hath agreed to the same, without  Amendment. 

B  m 

The Education Board Provisional  Orders Con- Education 

firmation  (Bucks, &c.) Bill [Lords]  was, according  Board 
to Order, read  the third time and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to  Confirmation 

the  Lords ;  and  acquaint them that this  House 
hath agreed to the same, without  Amendment. 

The  Local  Government  (Ireland)  Provisional 
Orders  (No.  1)  Bill  [Lords]  was,  according to 
Order, read a second time, and committed. 

The  Local  Government  (Ireland)  Provisional 
Orders  (No.  2)  Bill  [Lords]  was,  according to 
Order, read a second  time,  and committed. 

The  Gas  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  1)  Bill 
[Lords]  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second 
time,  and committed. 

The  Gas  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  2 )  Bill  Gas  Orders 
[Lords]  was. according  to  Order,  read  a  second ^nfir™2.t:i°11 
6 
l 
time,  and committed. 

[Lords.] 

(No.  2)  Bill 

u , 

•  

J 

' 

, 

The  Electric  Lighting  Provisional  Order 
(No.  2)  Bill  [Lords]  was,  according  to  Order, 
read a second time, and committed. 

Electric 
Lighting 
Provisional 
Order  (No.   2 ) 
Bill 

[Lords.] 

Several Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Third 
Report. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Statement  showing  Finan­
cial  Proposals  in  connection  with  the  Labour 
Exchanges  Bill. 

Labour 
Exchanges 
BiU. 

Mr.  Churchill  also  presented,—Return  to  an 
Order,  dated  the  17th  day  of  this instant June, 
for  a  Return  relative  to Emigration  and  Immi­
gration. 

Emigration 
and  Immi­
gration. 

N o  .  1 9 5. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Table  ;  and that the said Return  be printed. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read the third time. 

Greenock 
Corporation 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Greenock  Corporation  Bill, 
as  amended  in  the  Committee,  be  taken  into 
consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Watford  and 
Edgware 
Bail way  Bill. 

The  House  proceeded  to take  into  considera­
tion the  Watford  and Edgware  Railway  Bill,  as 
amended  in the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read the third time. 

Musselburgh 
Corporation 
(Extension  of 
Boundaries, 
&c.)  Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 

The  Musselburgh  Corporation  (Extension  of 
Boundaries,  &c.)  Order  Confirmation  Bill  was, 
according  to  Order,  read  the  third  time  and 
passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords,  and desire their concurrence. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  His  Trade  Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of Diplomatic and (Annual 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4258,8enes-) 
4265,  4267,  4269,  and 4271. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported from  the  Committee  of 
Selection;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing 
Committee  B  the following  Fifteen  Members (in 
respect  of  the  Marine  Insurance  (Gambling 
Policies) Bill):—Mr.  Owen Philipps, Mr.  Walter 
Rea,  Mr.  Arnold  Herbert,  Sir  John  Barlow,  Sir 
Clifford  Cory,  Sir Christopher Furness,  Mr.  Holt, 
Mr.  Crean,  Mr.  Conor  O'Kelly,  Mr.  Havelock 
Wilson,  Mr.  Jenkins,  Mr.  Watson  Rutherford, 
Mr.  Gibbs,  Mr,  Houston, and  Sir  Henry  Seymour 
King. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  B. 
Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies)  Bill. 

Education 
Board 
Provisional 
Order 
Confirmation 
(London, 
No.  1)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Education  Board Provisional  Order  Con­
firmation (London,  No.  1)  Bill  [Lords]  was, 
according  to  Order,  read  the  third  time  and 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry the  Bill to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them that this  House 
hath agreed to the same,  without  Amendment. 

Mr.  Fenwick  further reported from  the  Com­
mittee ;  That  they  had  discharged  the following 
Members from Standing Committee  C (in respect 
of  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill)  :—Mr.  Burns, 
Mr.  Masterman,  Sir  Edward  Strachey,  and Mr. 
Young ;  and  had  appointed  in  substitution  (in 
respect  of  the  said  Bill) :  Mr.  Churchill,  Mr. 
Tennant,  Mr.  Solicitor  General,  and Mr.  Kettle. 

Standing 
Committee  C. 

Labour 
Exchanges 
Bill. 

Education
Board 
OrderSi0nal 
Confirmation  passed. 

firmation 

The Education Board  Provisional  Order  Con-
(London,  No.  2)  Bill  [Lords]  was, 
according  to  Order,  read  the  third  time  and 

Mr.  Fenwick  further  reported  from  the  Com-  Standing 
mittee;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing  Committee  C. 
Committee  C  the following Fifteen Members (in 
respect  of  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill)  :—Mr. Labour 
Rose,  Mr.  Alexander  Harvey,  Mr.  Robinson,  Mr. ^changes 

­
 
 
 
No.  76.]  9  EDW. VII. 

16£7i June. 

George  Gooch, Mr.  Ponsonby, Mr.  Higham, Mr. 
Watt,  Mr.John  Wilson (Durham),  Mr.  Arthur 
Henderson, Mr.  Nannetti,  Mr.  Kendal  O'Brien, 
Mr.  Ren wick,  Sir  Francis  Lowe,  Mr.  Parkes, 
and Mr.  Rupert Guinness. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That  the  Sea  Fisheries  Regulation 
  be  read  a  second  time  upon 

r 

(Scotland)  Bill
, 
,
,r, 
Ihursday next. 

J

Mr.  Mooney reported  from  the  Committee  on 

Sea  Fisheries
Regulation
<ScotJand)
Bin.

Private Bills
<GroupE.)

  Group  g  of  Private  Bills  ;  That,  for  the  con­

venience of parties, the Committee bad adjourned 
till  Wednesday  next,  at  half  an  hour  after 
Eleven  of the clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Sir R. 
)
parityBill'8

Sir R.  Whittington's  Charity Bill was, accord­
t o  Order, read the third time and passed. 
Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Bridgend
Ba°ti3tEllgliSh  T l l i rd  R e a d i n  g   o f  the  Bridgend (Hope  English 
Chapel, &c.)
Charity  Biil.

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  the third time 

  Baptist  Chapel, &c.) Charity  Bill; 

upon Monday next. 

John
Marshall's
Charity  Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Third Reading  of John Marshall's  Charity Bill j 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  Third  Reading  of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon 
  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 

Lichfield
and Longdon
Chapeifand*1
Trust Property  Charity  B i l l; 
Chanty  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  the  third  time 

upon Monday next. 

Dewsbury 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Con ^ f atlonalThird  Beading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 
Chapel 
Charities Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the third  time 

Congregational  Chapel Charities  Bill; 

upon Monday next. 

Wortley 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Congregational Third  Reading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational 
Charity Bill.

  Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

upon Monday next. 

Trustees'

Accounts  Bill.

The  House,  according  to Order, proceeded to 
t a  k e  }rlto  consideration  the  Trustees'  Accounts 
Bill,  as amended in the Standing  Committee. 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made  to 
the  Bill,  in  p.  1,1.  5,  by leaving  out the words 
"  unless the  trust  otherwise,"  and  inserting  the 
words  " if  the  trust  so"—(Sir  Frederick  Ban­
bury),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the words 
proposed to  be left  out  stand part of  the Bill:—• 
It passed in the  Negative. 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted in the Bill; 

239 
Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to the Bill,  in p.  1,  1. 6,  by leaving out the word 
"  provides,"  and  inserting  the  words "  in  the 
absence  of  special  circumstances "—(Mr.  Hills),
—instead thereof. 

And the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 
"  provides "  stand part of the Bill:—It  passed in 
the Negative. 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted  in the Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right  ; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Stewart-Smith, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Hills : 

los 

"1 
J 

Tellers for the j Mr.  Harmood-Banner,  j  ^ 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Charles Craig : 

f 

So it  was resolved in the Affirmative, 
Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1. 6,  by inserting, after the 
words  last  inserted,  the  words  "  sanctioned by 
the court."—(Mr.  Henry  Forster.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted in the Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Yeas, 

1 Mr.  Gretton : 


Tellers for the \ Mr.  Stewart-Smith,  


Noes, 

IMr.  Hills: 

I,  26. 

132. 

So it passed in the Negative. 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1.  9,  by  leaving  out  the 
words "  at all times."—(Sir  Frederick Banbury.) 
And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed  to  be  left  out stand  part of  the 
Bill:—The  said proposed Amendment was, with 
leave of the House, withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,1.  18, by inserting, after the 
word "  any," the word "  proper."—(Mr.  Hills.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,. That  the 
word "  proper "  be there  inserted  in the  Bill:— 
The said  proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave 
of the House, withdrawn. 

Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to the Bill,  in  p.  1,  1.  18,  by inserting, after the 
word  "  expenses,"  the  word  "  properly."—(Mr. 
Hills.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the word 

"  properly "  be there inserted in the Bill; 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the /Sir  Frederick  Banbury, 

Yeas, 

IMr.  Younger: 

Tellers for thefMr.  Ashley, 

j
IMr.  Harmood-Banner :  J 

Noes, 

41. 

' 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the  Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the fSir Frederick Banbury,
IMr.  Fell:

Yeas, 

Tellers for the / Mr.  Stewart-Smith,

Noes, 

I Mr.  Hills:

So it passed in the Negative. 

VOL.   164. 

So it passed in the Negative. 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

\  . a 
J 
\  . 
J  U 7, 

Another Amendment was proposed to he made 
to the  Bill, in p.  2,  1.  23,  by inserting, after the 
word "  trustee," the  words  "  shall  only apply to 
trustees  appointed  by  an instrument  in  writing, 
but."-—( Sir Frederick  Banbury.) 

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And the  Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted in the  Bill; 

tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  (Election 
Standing Committee ; 

GlostnS 

18$  June. 

1909.  [No. 78. 


The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Sir  Frederick  Banbury,  \ 
j 
\ 
J 

Tellers for the ("Mr.  Stewart-Smith, 

LMr. Lonsdale: 

(Mr.  Hills: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

56. 

174. 

Ordered.  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking  Rule 

into consideration the Rule  Committee Bill ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next. 

Committee 
Bill. 

So it passed in the Negative. 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  2,  1.  31,  by  leaving  out  the 
words  " to  the  Public  Trustee  or."  —(Sir 
Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed  to be  left  out  stand  part  of  the 
Bill:—The  said proposed Amendment was, with 
leave  of  the House, withdrawn. 

The Order of  the  day being read, for  taking  Bishopric  of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield  Sheffield  Bill. 
Bill,  as amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Police  Super-

Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Superannuation ^nnuation 
(Scotland)  (No.  2) Bill; 
(No  2)BUI. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

upon Friday next. 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  2,  1.  33,  by leaving  out  the 
second word "or,"  and inserting the words "  but 
shall  apply"  —  (Sir  Frederick  Banbury),—
instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  proposed  to  be left  out  stand  part  of  the 
Bill:—The  said proposed Amendment was, with 
leave  of the House, withdrawn. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  2,  1.  34,  by  inserting  at  the 
end thereof  the  words "  or to trustees  appointed 
by  any  company  as  trustees  for  the  debenture 
holders of that company, or  to trustees appointed 
by  or  acting  at  the  request  of  any company or 
society."—(Mr.  Henry  Forster.) 

And the Question being proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted  in the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendraent was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  2,  1.  35,  by  leaving  out 
Clause 5.—-(Sir Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed  to  be left  out  stand  part  of  the 
Bill: —The said proposed Amendment  was, with 
leave  Of the House, withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 
Second Reading  of the Dogs'  Protection Bill;  Protection 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  (lay  being  read,  for  the  Money 

Second Reading  of the Money  Lenders  Bill; 

Lenders  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  p ^  t  office 
Second  Reading  of  the  Post  Office (Lotteries  (Lotteries  and 
and Obscene Matter) Bill; 

Matter^BiU. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Tuesday the 6th day  of July next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public  Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act Act (1875) 
(1875) Amendment  (Water Rights) Bill; 

J J  1 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second time Eights) Bil1' 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Cheap  Trains 

Second Reading  of  the Cheap Trains Bill;

BiI!­

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

Ordered, That the Bill be read  the  third  time 

upon Monday next. 

upon Friday next. 

Oaths  BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
into consideration the Oaths Bill,  as amended  in 
the Standing  Committee; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Union  Officers 
Second Reading  of the  Union Officers (Ireland)  (Ireland)  Bill. 
Bill; 

. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  the  Bill,  as 

upon Monday next. 

amended, into consideration. 

And  it  being  Five  of  the  clock,  further 
consideration  of  the  Bill,  as  amended,  stood 
adjourned. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee,  be taken  into further  con­
sideration upon Monday next. 

Under  Sheriffs  The Order  of the day being  read,  for  taking 
jnto  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs  (County 
(County 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next. 

Licensed 
Premises 

The Order  of  the day being  read,  for  taking 

into consideration  the Licensed  Premises  (Elec­

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  -the Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial  ^ f Q  1 
Tools Bill; 

°° S 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the  

House  without  Question  put,  pursuant  

to  Standing  Order No. 3,  it  being  then  

three  minutes  after  Five  of  the  clock,  

till Monday next.  


No. 79.]  9  EDW.  YII. 21st June.241 

[No.  79.] 

Monday, 2,1st June 1909. 

The House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of  the clock. 

P  E A T E R S. 

Donington  THE  Donington  "Water  Bill [Lords] was read 

the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amend­

Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

ments. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded North East 
' 
Eallway  BUL 

to  take  into  consideration 
Loudon Railway BUI. 

the  North  East£°°don  _ 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for taking Oxford and 

into  consideration  the  Oxford  and  District ®istrict 
Tramways Bill,  as amended in the Committee;  Biumways 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con- • 

sideration to-morrow. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint them that  this  House 
hath  agreed to the same, with Amendments;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

The Order of the day being  read,  for  taking Greenock 
into  consideration  the  Greenock  Corporation Corporation 
Bill,  as amended in the Committee ; 

Bl11, 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Thursday next. 

Ordered, That the London and North Western 
London  and 
North Western Railway  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  upon 
Railway Bill.  W e d n e s d ay  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Gateshead and; 

Second Reading  of  the  Gateshead and District District 
Tramways Bill  [Lords]; 

^ [ S .] 

Rio  Tinto 
Company  Bill  read the third time and passed. 
[Lords,  j 

The  Rio  Tinto  Company  Bill  [Lords]  was 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint them that this House 
hath agreed to the same, without  Amendment. 

Sligo and 
Bundoran 
Railway  BiU.  time; 

A  Motion  being  made,  That  the  Sligo  and 
Bundoran  Railway Bill  be  now  read  the  third 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,  acquainted  the  House  that  His 
Majesty, having  been  informed  of  the  purport 
of  the  Bill,  gives His  Consent,  as  far  as  His 
Majesty's interest  is  concerned, that  the  House 
may  do therein  as they shall think  fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and 

Ordered, That  the Clerk do carry the Bill to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Watford 
Crban District w as  read  the third time and passed. 

The  Watford  Urban  District  Council  Bill 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do carry the  BiU  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The House  proceeded  to  take into considera-
Derwent 
Valley  Water  tion  the  Derwent Valley Water  Board Bill,  as 
Board  Bill. 

amended in the Committee. 

And Amendments were made to the Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Folkestone) 

and Hythe 
Tramways 

Bill. 

The House  proceeded  to take  into  considera­
tion  the  Folkestone,  Sandgate,  and  Hythe 
Tramways Bill,  as amended in the Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 


The House proceeded  to  take into considera-

tion  the  London  County  Council  (Tramways  

and  Improvements)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

London 
County 
Council 
(Tramways 
and  Improve- Committee. 
ments)  Bill. 

And Amendments were made to the Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Ordered, That  the  Taff  Vale Railway  (Car-
diff Railway, Vesting,  &c.) Bill [Lords]  be  read 
a second time upon Thursday next,  at a quarter 

Taff  Vale 
Railway 
(Cardiff 
Railway, 
Vesting,  &c.)  of  an hour after Eight  of the clock. 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Taff  Vale 
Railway 
(Rhymney 
Railway, 
Vesting,  &c.) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered, That the Taff Vale Railway (Rhym-
ney Railway, Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords]  be read 
a second time upon Thursday next,  at  a quarter 
of  an hour after Eight  of the clock. 

VOL.   164. 

Ordered, That the Bill be read  a  second time 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the South Eastern 

Second  Reading  of  the  South  Eastern  and Chatham  ^ 
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill ami Dover 
[Lords] ; 

Railways BUI 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

. 

The  Glasgow  Hospital  for  Skin  Diseases Glasgow 

Order  Confirmation  Bill  was,  according  t o g ^ ^ J S j ,. 
Order, read the third time and passed. 

order 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do carry the  BiU  to Confirmation 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The Merchants House  of Glasgow (Buchanan Merchants 

and  Ewing  Bequests)  Order Confirmation Bill ^°™g8e0of 
was, according to Order, read the third time and (BuXman 
passed. 

and Ewing 
Ordered, That  the Clerk do  carry the Bill  to order"^ 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Confirmation 
BiU. 

Several Public  Petitions were presented, and Public 

read ;  and ordered to  He upon the Table. 

v i d e T h i rd 

Report, 
Mr. . Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His  Army. 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of the 
Advisory  Board,  London School  of  Economics, 
on the Third Course  at  the  London School  of 
Economies,  October  1908  to  March  1909, for 
the Training of Officers for the  higher  appoint­
ments  on the Administrative  Staff of  the Army, 
and for the charge of Departmental Services. 

Ordered, That the said Paper do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,,  pursuant  to  the Civil List 
directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament, — Pensions. 
Copy  of List  of all Pensions granted during the  No.196* 
year ended 31st March 1909, and payable under 
the provisions of  Section  9 (1)  of  the Civil List 
Act,  1901. 

Copy  of  Return  of  the  amount  payable  on Clergy (West 

5th January  1909 out of the Consolidated Fund Indies.) 
for Ecclesiastical Purposes  in the West  Indies. 

Copies of Treasury Minutes under the  Super-Superannua­
annuation  Act,,  1884,  dated  18th  June  1909,tion  Aot>1884­
declaring  that George  William  Love, Lad, and 
William Baldock, Lad,  Royal Small Arms Fac­
tory, Enfield, War Office, were appointed without 
a Civil  Service Certificate through inadvertence 
on the part  of the head  of  their Department. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 
Table;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  Civil 
List Pensions  be printed. 

I I 

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Trade  Reports  Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's Command,—Copies of  Diplomatic 
<Annual 
and Consular Reports,  Annual Series, Nos. 4268, 
Series.) 
and 4273  to 4277. 

Ordered, That the  said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Bishopric of 
The  Order for taking into consideration, upon 
Sheffield Bill.  Friday next, the Bishopric  of  Sheffield  Bill,  as 
amended  in  the  Standing Committee, was read, 
and discharged. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

Ordered, That  the  Local  Education  Autho-
rities  (Medical  Treatment}  Bill  (not  amended 
i n  t he
sideration to-morrow. 


Local 
Education 
^edicaf68
Treatment) 
Bill. 

Remission of 
Mr. Menzies reported  from  the  Select  Com-
Surcharge*  t  mittee  on the Remission  of  Surcharges (Dublin) 
{Dublin)  BUI.   B m . 

  Standing Committee)  be taken  into  con-


t h ey  h ad  g o ne 

t h r o u gh 

T h at 

  B  m 

a nd 

t he

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer rose in his 
place and  claimed  to  move, That  the Question 
be now put. 

Question put, That the  Question be now put.  Question put 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

g^o*ensure 
of  Debate.) 

Yeas, 

I Master of  Elibank : 

Tellers for the]1^Alexander  Acland­

N o es 
*  oes, 

1
[yiscount  Valentia:


H o o d  >


1  262. 

100. 

S 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  those  words 

be there inserted. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/ Viscount  Valentia, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Henry  Forster;  


j  102. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

I Master  of  Elibank : 

• 318. 

J 

Another Amendment proposed,  in  p. 1,1.  16, 
after  the  word  "  the,"  to  insert  the  word 
"  unearned."—(Captain  Craig.) 

Question put,  That the word  "  unearned "  be 

made Amendments thereunto. 

there inserted. 

No. 197. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

The Committee divided. 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

No. 197. 

Ordered, That the Minutes  of the Proceedings 

of the Select Committee be printed. 

Bill 257, 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Select  Committee,  be  recommitted  to  a  Com­
mittee  of  the  whole House for Thursday next; 
and be printed. 

Bank Holidays  Ordered,  That  the  Bank  Holidays  Bill  be 
Bil1' 

read a second time to-morrow. 

Public Works  Mr. Hobhouse presented a Bill  to grant money 
Loans Bill. 

f o r  the purpose  of  certain  Local  Loans out  of 
Bill 258.  tije  Local Loans Fund,  and  for  other  purposes 
relating  to  Local  Loans :  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  to-morrow; 
and to be printed. 

Finance BiU. 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on the Finance Bill, 

(In the Committee.) 

Clause No.  1 (Duty  on increment value). 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 

the Clause  be  postponed—(Mr.  Meysey-Thomp­
son):—  Debate arising; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer rose in his 
place  and  claimed  to  move, That  the Question 
be now put. 

Question put  Question put, That the Question  be now put. 

sfo^Closure 
of Debate.) 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease,

Yeas, 

(Master  of Elibank :
Tellers for the (Viscount  Valentia,

Noes, 

\Mr.Henry  Forster  :

"I 9  _ 
J  4  " 
\ 
J 

94. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause 

be postponed. 

Tell  rs f  r th  f®"" Alexander Acland­
<  Hood, 
LViscount  Valentia : 

y e a ° 
' 

^  1 1 0. 


Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 
(Master  of Elibank: 

Noes, 

\  ^q
J 

Motion made, and Question proposed, That the 
Chairman  do report  Progress, and  ask  leave to 
sit  again—(Mr.  Balfour)-.—Motion,  by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 1,1.  17, 
to  leave  out the word "  any,"  in order to insert 
the  words  "  all land other than agricultural."— 
—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  " a n y" 

stand part  of the Clause : 

Motion made, and Question, That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress, and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr.  Chaplin),—  put, and agreed to. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had made Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee may have leave to sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve itself into the said Committee. 

» 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Labour 

Committee  on  Labour  Exchanges 

[Salaries,  Exchanges 

[Salaries, &c.] 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of D4th June] 
the 14th day  of this instant June; 

Report. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for thefYiscount  Valentia, 

\ 
(Mr.  Henry  Forster  :  J 

Yeas, 

97. 

Tellers for the/Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Master  of  Elibank: 

}

294. 

Amendment  proposed, in p.  1,  1. 15, after the 
word  "  Act,"  to  insert the words "  on and after 
the  thirty-first  day  of  December  nineteen 
hundred and eleven."—(Sir Frederick  Banbury.) 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  LSrd June]
the 3rd day  of  this instant June; 

Beport-

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  [27th April] 
the 27th day of April last; 

Eeport 

Question proposed,  That those words be there 

Ordered, That  the Report  be  received  upon 

inserted :—Debate  arising; 

Thursday next. 

 
 
 
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21 st June. 

243 

,  ^  The Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
Supply 
*nto  consideration  the  Sixth of  the Resolutions 
Report  3X0 
(Deferred 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day  of  March  last, were 
Resolution.)  reported from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the 

22nd day of March last; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Check-

Second Reading of the Checkweighing  in various ™tU>uTS ltt 

Industries Bill; 

Industries 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time  BlU" 

upon  Monday next. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  he taken 
into further consideration upon Thursday next. 

Established 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Wales) Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church 

(Wales)  Bill; 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming cinemato­
the adjourned  Debate  on  the Question proposed graph Bill, 
upon the 21st day  of April last, That  the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a  second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

till to-morrow. 

upon Monday next. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
Second Reading  of  the London Electric Supply 
Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking Trade Boards 

into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  asBm> 
amended in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

sideration to-morrow. 

upon Monday next. 

Irish  Land 
BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the Irish Land  Bill; 

Resolved, That this House will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which, 
upon the 20th day  of April last, was proposed to 
be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the Houses of 
Parliament Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dublin Police 

Second Reading  of the Dublin  Police Bill  ; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lunacy 

Second Reading  of the Lunacy  (Ireland) Bill;  (Wand) BiU, 

Ordered, That the Bill be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government ^ernment 
(Audit  of Accounts) (Ireland) Bill; 

Accounts) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time (Ireland)  Bill, 

Places of 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

upon Monday next. 

(Enfranchise-  Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
ment) Bill. 

(Enfranchisement)  B i l l; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 
Second Reading  of  the County Councils Mort-  ^ X j e  s 
gages Bill; 

BiU. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Election of 
Municipal*11  Second Reading  of  the Election  of Aldermen in 
Boroughs Bill.  Municipal  Boroughs  Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the Bill be  read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on Irish Land  [Advances,  &c.]; 

Resolved, That  this House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Secretary of 
Second Reading  of  the Secretary  of  the  Board *he Board of 
of Agriculture and Fisheries Bill; 
andFisheries 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time Bm­

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assistant 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster Postmaster 
General Bill; 

General BUI, 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

Electric 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

upon Monday next. 

Amendment8  Second  Reading  of  the Electric  Lighting  Acts 
Bill  [Lords.]  Amendment Bill  [Lords] ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Housing, 
Planning, &c.  Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, 
BiU. 

&c.  Bill; 

' 

Resolved, That  this House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland I.nland  _„, 
T>MI 
•R, 
Revenue  Bill, 
' 
Revenue  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Superannua-

Second Reading  of the Superannuation Bill; 

tion BiU* 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Buildings and  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
WofkTBin8  Second  Reading  of the Buildings and Engineer­

ing Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking Board of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade BiU­
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Telegraph 
(Arbitration)  Second Reading  of  the Telegraph (Arbitration) 
BiU. 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Merchandise 

Second  Reading  of  the  Merchandise  Marks ^ar]£S 
(Ireland)  Bill j  ° 

(Ireland) Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

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The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Milk  and 
Dairies  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the Milk and Dairies  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Territorial 
Second Reading  of the Territorial Army Ballot Ai<?y Ballot 
Bill; 

BllL 

*

S

Ordered, That the Bill be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read,  for taking 
London 
Elections  Bill.  into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill 

(not amended in the Standing  Committee); 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Bishoprics  Bill 

Second Reading  of  the Bishoprics Bill [Lords'] • V****-1 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday the 5th day of July next. 

Supply 
ri7th  June] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply of 
the 17th day  of this instant June ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  National 
^ 

Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National Schools ^ools 
(Heating  and Cleansing) Bill  ; 

Cleansing) 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time BlU­

upon Monday next. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of Supply; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Easter 

Second Reading  of the Easter Offerings Bill; 

0 f lerings  B m. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of Ways  and Means  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Necessitous 

Second  Reading  of  the  Necessitous  Mothers ^°B^s®ra nces 
Bju_  a  ce' 
(Assistance) Bill; 

s

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Bridgend 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Hope  English  Third  Reading  of  the Bridgend  (Hope English 
Chapel,  &c.)  Baptist Chapel, &c.) Charity Bill ; 
Charity  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  the third  time 

upon Wednesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Firearms 
Second  Reading  of  the Firearms (Scotland and  (Scotland  and 
Ireland) Bill; 
Ireland)  BUI. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

John 
Marshall's 
Charity  Bill.  BH1; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Third  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  Charity 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third  time 

upon Wednesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 

Second  Reading  of 
(Legal Expenses) Bill; 

the  Local  Authorities  Authorities 
Expanses) 

Ordered, That the Bill be read  a second time BilL­

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Lichfield  and 
Longdon 
Third  Reading  of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon 
chapels  and.na  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust  Property  Charity Bill ; 
Chianty  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

upon Wednesday next. 

Dewsbury 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
ConSgatLnai Third  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 
Chapel 
Charities  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read  the third  time 

Congregational  Chapel  Charities Bill  ; 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Plumage 

Second  Reading  of  the  Plumage 
of Sale  or Exchange of)  (No.  2) Bill; 

( P r o h i b i t i o  n  (Prohibition 
I X n ge of) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time (No-2) Bm­

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Theatres  and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music  M ^ i  c  Halls 
Halls Bill; 

B,U" 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Wednesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Wortley 
ChageFati0nal T h i rd  E e a d i n S   o f  t he   Wortley  Congregational 
Chkrity  Bill.  Chapel Charity  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time 

upon Wednesday next. 

•Oaths Bill. 	

The Order  of  the  day being read, for taking 
into consideration the Oaths Bill,  as amended in 
the Standing Committee; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  taken into further 

consideration upon Thursday next. 

Merchant 
Shipping 
.(Lighthouses)  (Lighthouses)  Bill; 
Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Merchant  Shipping 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Friday next. 

Charitable 
Trusts  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Charitable Trusts  Bill; 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday the 5th day  of July next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dogs' 

Second Reading  of the Dogs'  Protection Bill;  Protection 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public  Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act  Act  (1875) 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights) Bill; 

(WaTer™61* 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time Bights) Bill, 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the cheap  Trains 

Second Reading  of the Cheap Trains Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial  ^ ^ i f .  1 
Tools Bill; 
ToolsBdi. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after Twelve  of the clock  on Tuesday morning; 

 
NO. 79.]  §  EDW.  VII. 

21 ST-


Tuesday,  22nd June 1909  : 

Irish 
A  Motion was made, and  the  Question being 
Universities  put, That  an  humble  Address  be  presented to 
-Act,1908 
His  Majesty,  praying  that  the  Statutes  made 
^Statutes.) 
for  the  Queen's  University  of  Belfast  by  the 
Belfast  Commissioners,  in  pursuance  of  the 
Act  8 Edw.  7, c. 38,  s. 5  (1),  be  not  sanctioned 
till  they  are  amended  in  the  following  par­
ticulars:  Chapter  XVI.,  Faculties  3  (a),  by 
inserting "  music," and by leaving out "  scholastic 
philosophy "—(Captain  Craig)  ; 

The  House divided.  

The  Yeas  to the  Eight;  


The  Noes to the  Left. 

Tellers for the/Captain  Craig,  


Yeas, 

I Mr.  Lonsdale : 


Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, Order 
relating  to  the  Great  N orth  of  Scotland  Rail- Confirmation 
way :  And  the  same  Was  ordered  (under  Sec­
tion  7  of  the  Act)  to be taken into consideration 
upon Thursday  next, 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and   Public 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide  Third 
Report. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His  Education 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Minute  of  the  (Scotland.) 
Committee  of  Council  on  Education  in  Scot­
land, dated  22nd  June  1909,  providing  for  the 
recognition  of  certain  Institutions  as  Central 
Institutions  for  the  purposes  of  the  Education 
(Scotland)  Act,  1908. 

}  

1 , 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  

/Master  of  Elibank  : 

Noes, 

}  112. 

So it passed in the  Negative. 

And  it  being  after  half-past Eleven  of the 
clock  on  Monday  evening,  Mr.  Speaker 
adjourned  the  House  without  Question 
ut, pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order,  it 
eing  then  fourteen  minutes  before One 
of  the clock  on Tuesday morning, till this 
day. 

E

'[No.  80.] 

Tuesday, 22nd June 1909. 

The House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three  of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Kdgware and  IT1HE  Edgware  and  Hampstead  Railway  Bill 
Hampstead^ 

JL  was read the third time and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

Watford  and 
Edgware 
Railway  Bill. 

The  Watford  and Edgware Railway  Bill was 

read the third time and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

the Lords,  and desire  their concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Glamorgan 
Water Board  Third Reading  of  the  Glamorgan  Water  Board 
Bill. 

Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read the third time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Oxford and 
District 
Tramways 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read,  for  taking 
into consideration the Oxford and District  Tram-
ways Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
North  Eastern 
Railway  Bill  Second  Reading  of  the  North  Eastern Railway 
[Lords.] 

Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Tuesday  next. 

Lune  Fisheries  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Lune  Fisheries  Pro-
Provisional 
visional  Order  Bill; 
Order Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Tuesday  next. 

Great  North  of  The  Lord  Advocate  presented  a Bill  to  con-
Scotiand 
a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Private 
Railway 

y o j ,.  1 6 4. 

firm 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir Edward  Grey  presented, by His  Treaty  Series 

Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Accession  of 
British  Colonies,  &c.  to  the  Commercial  Con­
vention  between  the  United  Kingdom  and 
Egypt,  signed  at  Cairo,  29th  October  1889. 

18>1909*) 

Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports,  Trade  Reports 

Annual  Series,  Nos. 4272  and 4278. 

(Annual 
Series.) 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  International 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of Exhibitions  of 
Treasury  Minute,  dated  15th June  1909,  direct-  R ^ a n  d 
ing  that the Accounts  of  the  Royal  Commission  Turin'(Royal 
for  the  International  Exhibitions  of  Brussels,  Commission.) 
Rome, and  Turin  be audited by the  Comptroller 
and Auditor  General. 

Ordered,  That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the 


Table. 


The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc-  Arundel  Port, 

tions  of  an Act  of Parliament,  was laid upon the 
Table by  the Clerk of  the  House :—Copy  of the 
Annual  Report  and  General  Account  of  the 
Commissioners  of  Arundel  Port  for  the  period 
from 25th  March  1908  to 25th  March  1909. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee of Selection 
Selection ;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol- (Standing 
lowing Members from Standing  Committee C  (in Standing 
respect  of  the  Marine  Insurance  (Gambling Committee  C. 
Policies)  Bill)  :—Mr.  Burns,  Mr.  Masterman, Marine 
Iusuraiice 
and  Sir  Edward  Strachey;  and  had  appointed (Gambling 
in substitution (in respect  of  the said Bill) :  Mr. Policies)  Bill. 
Churchill,  Mr.  Tennant,  and  Mr.  Solicitor 
General. 

Committees.) 

Mr.  Fenwick  further  reported from  the  Com-  Standing 
m i t t e e  ;  That  they  had  added  to  StandingCommitteec. 
Committee  C  the following Fifteen Members  (in 
respect  of  the  Marine  Insurance  (Gambling  Marine 
Policies)  Bill)  :—Mr.  Walter  Rea,  Mr.  Arnold Insurance 
Herbert,  Sir  John  Barlow,  Sir  Clifford  Cory,  Vohcics^Bill. 
Sir  Christopher Furness,  Mr.  David  Davies,  Mr. 
Herbert  Craig,  Mr.  Crean,  Mr.  Conor  O''Kelly, 
Mr.  Havelock  Wilson,  Mr.  Jenkins,  Mr.  Watson 
Rutherford,  Mr.  Gibbs,  Mr.  Brotherton,  and  Sir 
Henry  Seymour  King. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Ordered,  That  the  Money  Lenders  Bill  be  Money 

read a second time to-morrow. 

Lenders  Bill. 

Mr.  Cooper,  supported by  Sir  Walter  Foster,  Anaesthetics 

Sir  William  Collins,  Sir  John  Benn,  Mr.  Acland  Blll>. 
Allen,  Mr.  Barnes,  Dr.  Vickermann  Rutherford, 
Mr.  Bertram  Straus,  and  Mr.  Carr - Gomm, 
presented  a  Bill  to  regulate  the  administration 

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of Anesthetics:  And the same was ordered to be 
read a  second  time  upon  Monday the 19th  day 
of July next ;  and to be printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Labour 
Committee  on  Labour  Exchanges  [Salaries,  f ^ ^ f  6 ^ , 

Education
G r a n Q B r n . 0 1
Bill 260.

Mr.  Massie,  supported  by  Mr.  Burt,  Mr. 
Barnes>  Mr.  Gordon  Harvey,  Mr.  Hay  Morgan, 
Rogers, and Sir  George  White,  presented  a 
Bill  to  regulate  the  conditions  on which public 
money may  be  applied  in  aid  of  Education  in 
England  and  Wales,  and  for  other  purposes 
incidental  thereto :  And  the  same  was ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Monday  the 
12th day of July next;  and to  be printed. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,  


resolve itself into the said Committee. 


The Order  of the day being read, for resuming Cinemato­
the adjourned Debate  on the  Question  proposed graph Bill,  

upon the 21st  day  of  April  last, That the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time; 


Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till to-morrow. 

Finance  Bill.

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on the Finance Bill. 

The  Order  of the day being  read, for  taking  Trade  Boards 

into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  as Bill, 
amended in the Standing Committee ; 

(In the Committee.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
8.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

No  Tellers for 
the  Noes. 

No  Tellers for 
the  Noes. 

Clause No.  1 (Duty  on increment value). 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  1,1.  17, 
to  leave out  the  word  "  any,"  in order to insert 
the  words  "  all  land other than agricultural."— 
(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  word 

"any  "  stand part  of  the Clause : 

Question put. 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers  for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Master of Elibank : 
fSir Alexander  Acland-

Tellers for the)  H o o d^ 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

301. 

196. 

Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer  rose  in his 
place and  claimed  to move, That  the Question, 
That the words of the Clause  to the word  "  of," 
in p. 1,1.17, stand part of the Clause, be now put. 
Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
words  of  the  Clause  to  the  word  "  of,"  in p.  1, 
1. 17, stand part  of  the Clause, be now put. 
The Committee proceeded to a Division. 
Mr.  Joseph Pease  and the  Master  of  Elibank 
were  appointed  Tellers  for  the  Ayes,  but  no 
Member  being  willing  to  act  as  Teller for  the 
Noes, the Chairman declared the Ayes had it. 

Question  put  accordingly, That the  words  of 
the Clause  to the  word "  of,"  in p.  1,  1. 17, stand 
part  of the Clause. 

The Committee proceeded to a Division. 
Mr. Joseph Pease  and the  Master  of Elibank 
were  appointed  Tellers  for  the  Ayes,  but  no 
Member being  willing  to  act  as Teller  for  the 
Noes,  the Chairman declared the Ayes  had it. 
Motion made,  and  Question, That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer),— 
put,  and agreed to. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee had  made  Progress  in the Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee may have leave to sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

sideration to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Beading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland Jfla,nd 
Revenue Bill ; 

'  Bevenue  BilL 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Superannua-

Second Reading  of the Superannuation Bill; 

tion BiU' 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read,  for taking  Board  of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade  Bill, 
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Milk  and 

Second Reading  of the Milk and Dairies Bill;

Dairies  B i  a 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  London 

into consideration the London Elections Bill (not Elections  Bill, 
amended  in the Standing  Committee) ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Supply. 

Committee  of  Supply ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Ways  and 

Committee  of  Ways  and Means ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  tO-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read,  for taking  Handloom 
into consideration the  Handloom  Weaving Bill,  Weaving  Bill, 
as amended in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking  Coal  Mines 

into  consideration  the  Coal  Mines  (Check-(^eck-
weighers)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standingweig  e 
Committee; 

^ 
1 

Ordered,  That0 the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Tuesday next. 

Fisheries 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Beading  of the Fisheries (Ireland)  Bill; 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Public  Works 
Loans  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Beading  of  the  Public  Works  Loans 
Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking  Local 
into  consideration  the  Local  Education Autho-  f ^ ^  T 
rities (Medical Treatment)  Bill (not amended in (Medical*38 
the Standing Committee) ; 
Treatment) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con-Bl11, 

to-morrow. 

sideration to-morrow. 

 
 
 
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22nd—23rd  June. 

247 


Metropolitan 
Sewers and 
Drains Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Beading  of the Metropolitan  Sewers and 
Drains  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Plumage 

Second Reading  of the  Plumage  (Prohibition  of 
Sale  or Exchange of) (No.  2)  Bill; 

Exchange of) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Tuesday the 6th day  of July  next. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time <No-2) Bnl­

upon  Monday  next. 

Vagrancy Act 
Amendment  Second  Reading  of  the  V agrancy  Act  Amend-
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

ment  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Theatres and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music Music Halls 
Halls  Bill; 

BllL 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Tuesday the 6th day  of  July next. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

Municipal 
Corporations 
- u«  « 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Municipal  Corporations 

of Clergymen)  (Qualification  of Clergymen)  BiH '[Zorrfs]; 
Bill [Lmd».] 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Monday next. 

Burial  Places 
((Exemption 
from  Bates) 
(Scotland) 
Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the  Burial  Places  (Exemp­
tion from Rates)  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Hours  of 
Labour _«• 
(Surfacemen)  ~ 
Bill. 

facemen)  Bill; 

\  - o -n 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

% Second Reading  of  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Sur­

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Metropolitan 
Ambulances  Second  Reading  of  the  Metropolitan  Ambu-
Bill. 

lances  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Thursday  next. 

Vagrancy Bill.  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Vagrancy  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Tuesday the 6th day  of  July  next. 

Biackgame 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Biackgame  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 
Second Reading  of the  Dogs' Protection  Bill;  Protection 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Publio Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act Amendment 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

(Water 
Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a  second time Rights)

m

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Cheap Trains 

Second Reading  of the  Cheap  Trains Bill; 

Bm< 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial rjJJ^ 
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

this day. 

And  it  being  after  half-past Eleven  of  the  

clock  on  Tuesday  evening,  Mr.  Speaker  

adjourned  the  House  without  Question  

put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order,  it  

being  then two  minuteS  after  Twelve  of  

the  clock  on  Wednesday  morning,  till  

this day.,  


Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

S T A N D I NG  COMMITTEES. 

upon  Monday  next. 

5  And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Wednesday 
morning; 

Wednesday,  23rd  June  1909: 

Distribution by Mr.  Speaker, pursuant  to Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

Name of  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Law  Agents  (Scotland) 

Xaw  Agents 
•(Scotland) 
Act 

Amendment  Act  Amendment  Bill;  

Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

Open  Spaces 
•(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  thfe. 
Second Reading  of  the  Open  Spaces  (Scotland) 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

Foreign and 
Colonial Meat  g e c o nd  R e a d i ng   o f  t he   Foreign  and  Colonial 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Meat  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

upon Tuesday  next. 

Bank Holidays  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
BlU" 

Second Reading  of the Bank" Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

Marine  Insurance  (Gambling  Poli­
cies) Bill (transferred from  Stand­
ing Committee  B). 

[No.  81.] 

Wednesday, 23 rd June 1909. 

The House met  at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three of the  clock.  


P R AT  E B S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report Private  Bills 

from one of the Examiners  of Petitions for 

Private  Bills,  That  in  the case  of  the  Petition additional 
for  additional  provision  in  the  following  Bill, Provision) 
(Standing 
originating  in  the  Lords,  the  Standing  Orders 
Orders not 
have not been complied with, viz.  :— 
complied 
with.) 

Torquay  and  Paignton  Tramways  Bill 

[Lords']
(Petition  for 

this day. 

VOL.  164. 

[.Lords]. 

I  I  4 

248 

23rd June, 


Ordered, That  the Report  be referred  to the 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by Africa 

Select  Committee  on Standing Orders. 

Cardiff
Corporation

1  '

The House  proceeded  to take  into considera­
tion the Cardiff  Corporation Bill,, as amended in 
the Committee. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read the third time. 

London and 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
North  Western Third  Reading  of  the  London  and  North 
Railway Bill.  W e s t c rn   Railway  B i l l; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  the third time 

upon Monday next. 

Several  Public  Petitions were presented, and 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide Third 
Report. 
Electric 
Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Lifting Acts, Command, —  Copy  of  Special  Report  by  the 
1882 and 188&  B o a rd   o f  T r a de  u n d e r .  Section 1  of  the Electric 

Midwiyes Act,
1902,

Medical  Act, 
1886. 

Colonial 
Fortifications 
Act, 1877, 

Lighting Act,  1888. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

  Mr,  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command, —  Copy  of  Report  on  the  Work  of 
the Central Midwives Board for the year ending 
31st March 1909. 

Mr.  Runciman also presented, pursuant to the 
directions  of several Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Representations  of  the  General  Council  of 
Medical  Education  and  Registration  of  the 
United  Kingdom  to  the  Privy  Council  under 
Section  10 of the Medical Act,  1886. 

Copy  of Representations,  dated the 27th May 
1909,  of the Secretary  of  State for  the Colonies 
and  Lords  Commissioners  of  His  Majesty's 
Treasury, that  it  is  expedient  that  certain  pro­
perties  held  in  trust  for  the  defence  of  the 
Dominion  of New Zealand should be transferred 
to  the  Government  of  the said  Dominion;  and 
Draft of an Order in Council under the Colonial 
Fortifications  Act,  1877, for  giving effect to the 
above Representations. 

Universities  of 
Oxford and 
Cambridge 
Act, 1877 
(Oxford.) 

No.  198. 

Copy  of  Statute  made  by  the  Governing 
Body  of  New  College,  Oxford,  under  the 
Universities  of  Oxford  and  Cambridge  Act, 
1877,  on  the  7th  October  1908,  and  scaled  on 
the 26th February 1909,adding  anew Clause  10 
to Statute  IV.  of the  Statutes of the College. 

Universities of 
Oxford and 
Cambridge 
Act, 1877 
(Cambridge.) 
No.  199. 

Copy  of  Statutes  made by  the  University of 
Cambridge under the Universities  of Oxford and 
Cambridge Act,  1877  (sealed  on  the  20th  Feb­
ruary  1909),  amending Chapter IV.,  Statute A, 
Section  5,  of  the  Statutes  of  the  University, 
and  adding  a  new  Section  5a  to  the  same 
Chapter. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 
Table;  and  that  the  Papers  relative  to  the 
Universities of  Oxford and Cambridge A.ct, 1877 
(Oxford),  and  the  Universities  of  Oxford and 
Cambridge  Act,  1877  (Cambridge),  be printed. 

Irish
Universities
Act, 1908.

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
  Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Report  to 
accompany Statutes  made  by the  Dublin  Com­
missioners  under  the  Irish  Universities  Act, 
1908. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

International

Agricultural

Institute. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His 
  Majesty's  Command,—-Copy  of  further Papers 
and Correspondence relative to the International 
Agricultural Institute. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie Upon the 

Table. 

His  Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  further (No. 2,1909.) 
Correspondence  respecting  the  Taxation  of 
Natives  and  other  questions  in  the  Congo 
State. 

Copy of Despatch from His Majesty's Minister china 

in  China  forwarding  a  General  Report  by  Sir (No. 1,1909.)> 
Alexander Hosie respecting the Opium Question 
in China. 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table, 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the Finance 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of Accounts. 
Finance  Accounts  of  the  United  Kingdom for  No, 200. 
the year ended 31st  March  1909. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper do lie upon the 

Table  and be printed. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's West Africa. 

Command,—Copy  of  Report  by  Professor  W. 
J.  Simpson  on  Sanitary  Matters  in  various 
West  African  Colonies,  and  the  outbreak  of 
Plague  in the Gold Coast. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Navy (Courts*­

Command,—Copy  of Returns of the  number  of Martial.) 
Courts - Martial  held,  and  summary  Punish­
ments inflicted,  on Seamen  of  the  Royal  Navy, 
&c. during the year 1908. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing  Standing 
Committee  B,  to whom  the  Sale  of  Margarine g°,™™flttee B" 
Bill  was referred ;  That they had  gone through Margarine 
the Bill and made Amendments thereunto. 

Bill, 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  No. 201. 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That the Minutes of the Proceedings  No. 201. 

of the Standing Committee  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Bill 261. 

Standing  Committee, be taken into consideration 
upon  Friday next;  and  be printed., 

Sir  George  Doughty  reported  from  the  Com- Great Western 

mittee  on  the Great  Western Railway (General 
Powers)  Bill >  That  they  had  examined  thepowers) Bill, 
allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the 
Bill, and verbally amended the same, and found 
the  same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and  had 
gone  through  the Bill  and  made  Amendments 
thereunto. 

' 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  th® 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill,  Trustees' 
Ac^?fcs 

as amended  on consideration,  be printed. 

Bui 262. 

Sir  Francis  Lay land-Barratt  reported  from Local 
the Local  Legislation  Committee  (Section A )  ; committee 
That  in the case of the Prestatyn Urban District (Section X) 
Council  Bill  they  had  examined  the  allega- Prestatyn 
tions contained in  the Preamble of  the Bill, and counca^m^ 
amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent 
with the provisions  of  the Bill  as passed  by the 
Committee, and found  the same,  as amended, to 
be  true;  and  had  gone  through  the  Bill  and 
made Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Mr. Mooney reported  from the  Committee  on Gas 
the Gas Provisional  Order Bill;  That they had ^dlrl™?1 
agreed to the following  Report:—

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Gas 
Provisional 
Orders BUI. 
[  Provisional 
Order  relating 
to  Prestatyn 
Gas  not 
confirmed; 
remaining 
Order 
confirmed.] 

[Title 
amended.] 

9  E D W.  V I I. 

23rd—24th  June. 

2 49 

That pursuant to the Instruction of the House 
of  the  13tb  May  the  Committee  of  Selection 
had referred to the Local Legislation Committee 
so much  of  the Bill  as related  to  the Prestatyn 
Gas Order. 

That  the  Local  Legislation  Committee  had 
considered  the said  Order, and were of  opinion 
that it ought not to  be confirmed. 

Mr.  Mooney further  reported  from  the Com­
mittee ;  That they had considered the remaining 
Order relating  to Fermoy ;  that the said Order 
ought  to  be  confirmed;  and  that  they  had 
directed  him  to  report  the  Bill, with  Amend­
ments, to the House;  and had amended the Title, 
as  followeth :—A  Bill  to confirm  a Provisional 
Order  made  by the  Board  of  Trade  under  the 
Gas  and  Water  Works  Facilities  Act,  1870, 
relating  to Fermoy Gas. 

'  Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words 
"  one pound "  stand part of the Clause. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for thef Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Master of' Elibank : 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Arnold  Herbert, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Whitbread-. 

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An Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,  1. 18, 
to  leave out  the word " five,"  in  order  to  insert 
the word "  ten."—(Mr.  Everett.) 

Question put, That the word " five "  stand part 

of the Clause. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 
\ Master  of Elibank 

Yeas, 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do. lie  upon  the 

Tellers for  t h J ^ * D i c l  U m ­

Table ;  and be printed. 

Noes, 

[  Poynder-. 

2 9 3. 

127. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

Local 
Government 
Qualification 
(England  and 
Wales)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  adjourned  Debate  on the 
Question  proposed  upon  the  7th  day  of  May 
last,  That  the  Local  Government  Qualifica­
tion  (England  and  Wales)  Bill  be  now  read a 
second time,  be resumed upon Tuesday next. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  C. 
Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies)  Bill. 

Mr. Fenwich reported  from the Committee of 
Selection ;  That they had discharged the follow­
ing  Members  from  Standing  Committee  C (in 
respect  of  the  Marine  Insurance  (Gambling 
Policies) Bill):—Earl Percy  and Mr. Ainsworth ;
and  had appointed  in substitution  (in respect of 
the said Bill) :  Mr.  M'Arthur  and  Mr.  Robert 
Balfour. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Another Amendment made. 
Another Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,  1. 18, 
after the words last  inserted,  to insert the words 
"  one-half  of the amount  levied  to be paid  into 
the Local  Taxation  Account,  and  to  be  distri­
buted  and  applied  in  the  same  manner  as  the 
probate duty grant under the Local Government 
Act,  1888."—(Mr.  Harwood.) 

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

inserted : 

Amendment proposed to the proposed Amend­
ment,  to  leave  out  the  words "  one-half  of."— 
(Mr  .Lough.) 

Question, That the words proposed  to  be left 
out stand part of the proposed Amendment, put, 
and agreed to. 

Question, That those words  be there inserted, 

put, and negatived. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  1,1.  18, 
to leave out the words "  or a  proportionate  part 

Bights  of 
Way. 

Bights  of 
Way  Bill. 

Bill  263. 

Ordered,  That leave be given to bring in a Bill thereof."—(Mr.  Watson Rutherford.) 

to amend the  Law relating  to Public  Rights of 
Way  :  And that  Mr.  Cowan,  Mr.  Cecil  Harms-
worth, Sir John Jardine, Mr.  Ramsay Macdonald, 
Mr.  Mackarness, and  Mr.  Molteno  do  prepare 
and bring it in. 

Mr.  Cowan accordingly  presented  a  Bill  to 
amend  the  Law  relating  to  Public  Rights  of 
Way  :  And  the  same was  read  the first time, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday next;  and to be printed. 

Question proposed,  That the word "or  " stand 
part  of  the  Clause :—Amendment,  by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,  1. 20, 
to  leave  out  paragraph  (a). —  (Mr.  Watson 
Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed, That  the  words  proposed 
to  be left  out, to the  second word "  of,"  in  1. 20, 
stand  part  of  the Clause : 

Finance  Bill. 

The House, according to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on the Finance  Bill. 

(In the  Committee.) 

Clause No.  1 (Duty  on increment value). 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,1.  17, 
to leave  out  the  words "  one  pound,"  in  order 
to  insert  the  words  "five  shillings."—(Mr. 
Arnold  Herbert.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "one 
pound"  stand  part  of  the  Clause: — Debate 
arising; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question 
be now put. 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question put, That the Question  be now put. 
The Committee divided. 
Tellers for thejMr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Master  of Elibank : 

1 
J  7b< 

m n 
Tellers for the I   ^  ^  

c 

.i  fSir Alexander Acland^  1 

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[Viscount  Valentia : 

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VOL.  164. 

Thursday, 2Ath June 1909 : 
Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the Chairman  do report Progress,  and ask leave 
to  sit  again —(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain)-.— 
Debate arising ; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move, That  the Question 
be now put. 

Question put, That  the Question  be now put. 
The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease,

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Yeas, 

t Master  of Elibank -.

"j 
J 

4> 

Tellers for  t h e f  S  V ' t T  ^ 

<  Hood,

vr 
JN oes, 

H e n r  y  F o r s t e r  . 

100. 

Question put accordingly, That the Chairman 

do report Progress, and ask leave to sit again. 

The  Committee divided. 

Tellers for thef^Alexander  Acland­
<  Hood,
(Mr. Henry  Forster-. 

y  ag 

' 

Tellers for the fMr. Joseph Pease,

Noes, 

(Master  of  Elibank : 

K  K 

1

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23rd—2Uh  June. 

1909. 

[No. 81. 

Original  Question  again  proposed :—Debate 

arising ; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer rose  in  his 
place  and claimed  to move, That  the  Question 
be now put. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Superaimua­

Second Reading  of the Superannuation Bill;

tion Bil1­

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate,) 

Question put, That the Question be now put. 
The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Master  of  Elibank : 

_  „ 
„ 
Tellers for the) 
Noes, 

f Sir  Alexander  Acland- 1

n n n fL	 

[Mr. Ilenry  Forster: 

Original  Question  put  accordingly, That  the 
words proposed to be left out, to the second word 
"  of,"  in  1. 20,  stand part  of the Clause. 

\ 216 
J 

[  94. 
J 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking Board of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  asTradeBi11­
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Supply. 

Committee  of Supply; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the  said Committee. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 

1 242. 
J 

Tellers for the f Mr.  Watson Rutherford, "> 92. 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Salter-. 

J 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Ways and 

Committee  of Ways and Means; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  1,1.  20, 
after the word "  sale," to insert the words " other 
than  a  transfer  on  sale  constituting  merely  a 
security for debt."—(Mr.  Scott  Dickson.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Bridgend 
Third  Reading  of  the  Bridgend  (Hope  English  (Hope English 
Baptist  Chapel, &c.)  Charily Bill; 

&e0 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third  time Charity  Bill, 

Question  put.  That  those  words  be  there 

upon Friday the 2nd day  of  July next. 

inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Viscount  Valentia, 

Yeas, 

(Lord  Edmund  Talbot 

Tellers for the / Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Herbert  Lewis: 

j.  88. 

!- 228. 

Motion  made, and  Question, That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr. James Hope),— put, and agreed to. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed the Chair;  and 

the  Deputy  Chairman  reported, That  the Com­
mittee had made Progress in the Bill;  and that 
he  was  directed  to move,  That  the Committee 
may have leave to  sit again. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the John 
Third Reading  of John Marshall's  Charity Bill;  j ^ ^ B Ol 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third  time 

upon Friday the 2nd day  of July next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lichfield and 

Third  Reading  of  the  Lichfield  and  L o n g d on  Longdon 
Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property c£afettiT 
Charity  Bill  ; 

Trust Property 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time Charity  BilL 

upon Friday the 2nd day  of July next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dewsbury 

Third  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley and Batle/ 

,

Resolved,  That this House  will, upon  M onday 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

Congregational  Chapel Charities Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the third time Charities  Bill, 

upon Friday  the 2nd day  of  July next. 

(/OTiffrPS'iitiOTifl.l 
Chapel 

Public  Works 
Loans  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Works  Loans 
Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Wortley 
Third  Reading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational ^°grefational 
Chapel  Charities  Bill; 

Charity Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

this day. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the third time 

upon Friday the 2nd  day of July next. 

T h  e  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
BxdiaE  es 
[Salaried &C.] Committee on Labour Exchanges [Salaries, &c.]; 
Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  taking Local 
into  consideration  the  Local  Education Autho- Education 
rities  (Medical Treatment) Bill (not amended in 
the  Standing  Committee); 

Treatment) 

Cinemato-
graph  Bill.  	

The Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned  Debate  on the  Question proposed 
upon the 21st  day  of  April  last, That the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till Monday next. 

Trade  Boards 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  as 
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

Customs  and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill.  Revenue  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con- Bill. 

sideration this day. 

The  Order	  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Officers 0ffloers BilL 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Wednesday the 21st day  of July next. 

The  Order	  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours of 
Second Reading  of  the Hours of Labour (Bake- ^kThouses) 
houses)  Bill	 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday the  7th day  of July next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Civil Bill 


Second Reading of the Civil Bill Courts (Dublin) Courts 

JJJJJ .	

(Dublin)  Bill. 

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Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

upon Wednesday next. 

upon Monday next. 

Hours of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Heading  of  the  Hours  of  Labour (Sur­
facemen) Bill ; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

this day. 

The Order of  the day being  read,  for  taking Greenock 
into  consideration  the  Greenock  Corporation Corporation 
Bill,  as amended in the Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

Bank Holidays  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Bill. 

Second Reading  of the Bank Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

this day. 

The House, according  to Order,  proceeded to Oxford and 

take  into  consideration  the Oxford and District District 
Tramways Bill,  as amended in the Committee.  Bill.  w 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bin. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Dogs' Protection  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Gateshead and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Gateshead and District District 
_  SSfSkj 
Tramways Bill  [Lords]  ; 

. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act, 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the 'Bill  be read a second  time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  South Eastern 
Second  Reading  of  the  South  Eastern  and and London, 
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill ^  D^er 
[Lords]  ; 

Railways  Bill 

this day. 

Cheap Trains 4'   The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Bill. 

Second Reading  of  the Cheap Trains Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

this day. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of the Pawning Industrial Tools 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

this day. 
o 

And it  being after  half-past  Eleven  of  the 
clock  on Wednesday evening, Mr. Deputy 
Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without 
Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing 
Order, it being then twelve minutes before 
Three  of the clock  on Thursday morning, 
till  this dav. 

[No.  82.] 

Thursday,  24th June 1909. 

The House met at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three of the clock. 

Derwent 

Yalley  Water 
Board  Bill.  


P R A Y E R S. 

THE  Derwent  Yalley  Water  Board  Bill  was 

read the third time and passed. 


Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Folkestone, 
Sandgate, 
and  Hythe 
Tramways 
Bill. 

The Folkestone,  Sandgate, and Hythe  Tram-

ways Bill was read the third  time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

London 
County 
Council 

(Tramways 
and  Improve-
ments)  BilL 

North  Bast 
London 
Railway  Bill. 

The London  County Council  (Tramways and 
Improvements) Bill was read the  third time and 
passed. 


Ordered, That  the Clerk  do  carry the Bill to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The  North  East  London  Railway  Bill  was 

read the third time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Glamorgan 
Water Board  Third  Reading  of  the  Glamorgan  Water  Board 
EiU- 

The  Order  of  the  day  beiug  read,  for the 

Bill; 

V  O L.  1 6 4. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time  tLords^ 

upon Monday next. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded Gas 

to  take  into  consideration  the  Gas  Provisional ^ovisional 
Order  Bill  (changed  from  Gas  Provisional, 
Orders Bill),  as amended in the Committee. 

Gas 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  the third time  orders  Bill.) 

upon Monday next. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to Great North of 

take  into  consideration  the  Great  North  of Scotland 
j^1™7 
Scotland Railway  Order Confirmation Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read the  third time  Confirmation 

upon Monday next. 

Several  Public Petitions  were presented, and Public 

read;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

1 

Mr.  Churchill presented, pursuant  to the direc- Gas and  Water 

tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy  °f  facilities Act 
Report  by the  Board  of  Trade  under  the  Gas  187o_ 
' 
and  Water  Works  Facilities  Act,  1870,  as  to  No. 202. 
the  grounds  for dispensing with  the consents of 
the  Gravesend  Corporation  and  the  Northfleet 
Urban  District  Council  in  the  case  of  the 
Gravesend and Milton Water Provisional Order. 

Copy  of  Report by the Board  of  Trade  on  an Railway 
application  made  during  the  year  1908  under. Companies^ 
the  Railway  Companies' Powers Act,  1864, and 1864. 
of the  Proceedings  of  the  Board  of  Trade  with 
respect thereto. 

' 
203. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Bill. 

Petitions. 
Vide  Third 
Report. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Board  of 
Command,—Copy  of  Code  of  Regulations  for Education. 
Public Elementary  Schools  in England  (exclud­
ing Wales and Monmouthshire), with Schedules, 
1909. 

Copy  of  Regulations  for  Technical  Schools, Board of 
Schools  of Art,  and other forms of provision  for Bdueatl011' 
further  Education  in  England  and  Wales  (in 
force from 1st August  1909  to 31st July  1910). 
Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Public  Works 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of Loan Board. 
Thirty-fourth  Annual  Report  of  the  Public 
204. 
Works  Loan  Board, for  1908-9,  with  Appen­
dices. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the  


Table ;  and  be  printed.  


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24th  June. 

1909.  [No. 82. 

Local 
Mr.  Charles  Nicholson  reported  from  the 
Legislation 
Local  Legislation  Committee  (Section  B)  ; 
Committee 
(Section  B.)  That  the parties  promoting  the  Heywood  Cor-
Heywood 
poration  Bill  had  stated  that  the  evidence  of 
Corporation  Edmund  Herbert  Stevenson  was  essential  to 
Bill. 
their case ;  and  it  having  been proved  that his 
attendance  could  not  be  procured  without  the 
intervention of the House, he had been instructed 
to move that the said  Edmund  Herbert  Steven­
son  do attend  the  said Committee  on  Tuesday 
next,  at half  an hour after Eleven  of the clock. 

Ordered, That  Edmund  Herbert  Stevenson 
do  attend  the  Local  Legislation  Committee 
(Section  B)  on  Tuesday next,  at  half  an hour 
after Eleven  of the clock. 

they had directed him  to report the Bill, without 
Amendment,  to the  House. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported Local 

from  the Committee  on  the  Local  Government Government 
(Ireland)  Provisional Order (No.  3)  Bill;  That ProyMonal 
they  had  considered  the  Order  therein  con- Order (No.  3) 
tained ;  that  the  said  Order  ought  to  be ?prQTigional 
confirmed;  and  that  they  had  directed  him  to
report the Bill, with Amendments, to the House, confirmed.] 

1 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Local 
Legislation 
Committee 
(Section  A.) 
Manchester 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Sir Francis Layland-Barratt reported from the 
Local Legislation Committee (Section A)  ;  That 
in  the  case  of  the Manchester  Corporation  Bill 
[.Lords] they had agreed to the following Report:— morrow. 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to-

That  in  pursuance  of  the Resolution  of  the 
House  of  the  11th day  of May  the  Committee 
had  inserted  in  the  Bill  the  additional  pro­
vision  referred  to  in  such  Resolution,  with 
Amendments. 

Sir Francis  Layland-Barratl  further reported 
from the Committee;  That  they  had  examined 
the allegations contained  in the Preamble  of the 
Bill,  and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it 
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed  by the Committee,  and  found  the  same, 
as amended,  to  be  true;  and  had gone  through 
the Bill and made Amendments thereunto. 

The Chairman of  Ways  and  Means reported Pier and 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Pier and Harbour  p ^ ® "  ^ 
Provisional Orders  (No.  2) -Bill;  That they had orders (No.  2) 
considered  the  Orders  therein  contained ;  that Bill, 
the said Orders ought to  be confirmed;  and that {^visional 
they had  directed  him  to report  the  Bill,  with confirmed.] 
Amendments,  to the House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and  be printed. 

Local 
Government 
Provisional 
Orders  (Gas) 
Bill. 
[Provisional 
Orders 
confirmed.] 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Local  Government 
Provisional  Orders  (Gas)  Bill;  That  they had 
considered  the  Orders  therein  contained ;  that 
the said Orders ought to be confirmed;  and that 
they had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill, with 
Amendments,  to the House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means reported 
from  the  Committee  on the  Local Government 

Local
p " ™ ™'
Orders (No. 3) Provisional Orders  (No.  3)  Bill;  That they had 
considered  the  Orders  therein  contained ;  that 
t he  s a id   Orders ought to be confirmed ;  and that 
they  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill, with 
Amendments,  to the House. 

. .
OrdeIsSi°nal
confirmed.]

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and Means  reported 
Local
£roin  the Committee  on  the  Local  Government 
Government
Orders°(No. 4) Provisional Orders (No. 4)  Bill;  That they had 
considered  the  Orders  therein  contained;  that 
1 
' 
Bill. 
the said Orders ought  to  be confirmed;  and. that 
[Provisional 
Orders 
they had directed him to report the Bill, without 
confirmed.] 
Amendment,  to the House. 

- 1 .

1   ' ' 

.. 

^ 

' 

.

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  the  third time 

to-morrow. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means  reported Sea Fisheries 

from the Committee on the Sea Fisheries  (Tees) p^®®jgioaal 
Provisional  Order  Bill;  That  they  had  con- order Bin. 
sidered  the  Order  therein  contained ;  that  the [Provisional 
said Order ought to  be confirmed;  and that they  ^^med 
had directed him to report the Bill,  with Amend­
ments, to the House. 

r

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported Metropolitan 

from  the  Committee  on  the  Metropolitan  Com- pr™i°onal 
mons  Provisional  Order  Bill;  That  they  had Order Bill, 
considered the Order therein contained;  that the [Provisional 
said  Order  ought  to  be  confirmed;  and  that ^nSmed.] 
they had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill,  with 
Amendments,  to the House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means  reported Bast Sussex 

from the Committee  on the East Sussex  County q®""*^ Bj)] 
Council  Bill  [Lords];  That they had  examined  [lords.]
the  allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of 
the  Bill,  and  amended the  same  so  as  to make
it  consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed  by  the  Committee,  and found  the  same, 
as  amended,  to  be true;  and had  gone through 
the Bill and made Amendments thereunto. 

1 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Local 

The  Chairman  of Ways  and  Means  reported 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported Southend 

f r o  m  tJ}e  Committee  on  the  Local  Government 
Provisional* 
Orders (No. 5) Provisional  Orders (No.  5)  Bill;  That they had 
considered  the  Orders  therein  contained;  that 
Bill- 
  Orders ought  to be confirmed ;  and that 
Ord°erf°rial
t l ie  s a id
confirmed.] 

the Southend-on-Sea  Corporation  Bill  fLords1,  on-Sea 
with Amendments. 

Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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253 

Wakefield 
S g f  . 
L

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 

from  the  Committee  on  the  Wakefield  Cor­
poration  Bill  [Lords] ;  That  they had examined 
the  allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of 
the  Bill,  and  amended  the  same, and found the 
same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and  had  gone 
through  the  Bill  and  made  Amendments there­
unto. 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made to 
the  Question,  by leaving out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  three  months."—(Mr. 
Lewis  Has Jam.) 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the word 

"  now "  stand part  of  the Question ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Southport 
The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 
Tramroad.am  ^ r om  the  Committee  on  the  Southport  and 
Lytham Tramroad (Abandonment) Bill [Lords]  ; 
(Abandon- 
That  they  had  examined  the  allegations  con­
ment) Bill 
tained in the Preamble  of the Bill, and amended 
[Lords.J 
the  same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent  with the 
Bill  as passed  by the Committee,  and found the 
same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and  had  gone 
through  the  Bill  and made Amendments there­
unto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Bristol 
BiuTinZ  l  ^ r om 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 
Committee  on  the  Bristol University 
Bill  [Lords];  That  they  had  examined  the 
allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the 
Bill,  and verbally amended the  same, and found 
the  same,  as  amended,  to  be  true ;  and  had 
gone  through  the  Bill  and  made  Amendments 
thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee 
Selection 
(Standing 
of Selection ;  That they  had discharged the  fol-
Committees.) 

lowing Members from Standing Committee  C (in  

Standing 
Committee  C.  respect  of the Labour Exchanges Bill and of the 
Labour 
Marine Insurance  (Gambling  Policies)  Bill)  :— 
Exchanges  Bill 
and  Marine  Mr." Robert Harcourt  and Sir John Jardine ;  and 
had appointed  in  substitution  (in respect  of  the 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
said Bills):  Mr.  Lamont and Captain  Murray.
Policies) 
BilL 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Trustees' 
The  Order  for  reading  the  third  time,  to-
Accounts Bill.  m o r r o W  j  the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill  was  read, 

and discharged. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third  time 

upon Friday the 2nd day of July next. 

Supply 
jTith allotted  i n t  0  t h  e  Committee of Supply. 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

(In  the Committee.) 
Civil Services and Revenue  Departments  

Estimates,  1909-10.  

Class  III.  


Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
a  sum  not  exceeding  £183,677  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty,  to  complete  the  sum  necessary 
to  defray the charge  which will  come  in course 
of  payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the 
31st  day  of  March  1910  for  the  Salaries  and 
Expenses  of  the  Office  of  the  Irish  Land 
Commission : 

And  it being a quarter  of  an hour after Eight 
of the clock, and  there  being  Private  Business 
set down  by direction  of  the Chairman  of Ways 
and Means under Standing Order No. 8, further 
proceeding was postponed without Question put. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Taff  Yale  Railway 
(Cardiff Railway,  Vesting, &c.) Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Taff "Vale 
Railway 
Railwly 
Vesting, &c.) 
Bill [Lords.]  b e i n  g  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 

And  a  Motion being made, and the Question 

second time ; 

VOL.  164.  


The  House divided. 
The  Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Sir Alfred Thomas, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Robinson  : 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Lewis Haslam, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  War die: 

107. 

\ 
/ 

°U 

0 

And the Question being put, That  the  Ques- Question put 

.(pursuant to 
S.O,  Closure 
of Debate.) 

So it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And the Main Question being again proposed : 

—And  a Debate arising thereupon ; 

And  it being  after Eleven  of  the clock,  Mr. 

Speaker proceeded to interrupt the Business : 

Whereupon  Sir  Frederick  Banbury  rose  in 
his place and claimed to move, That the Question 
be now put. 

tion  be  now  put; 
' 

r 
The  House  divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Sir Frederick Banbury,  ^  ^ 

Yeas, 

(Sir  William Bull'. 

j

Tellers for the/Mr.  Harwood, 
\Mr.  Higham  -. 

Noes, 

71. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
And  the  Main  Question  being  accordingly 

put; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the  Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the ("Sir Alfred  Thomas, 

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Robinson : 

Tellers for the fMr. Lewis Haslam, 

Noes, 

IMr.  War die: 

102. 

\  72. 
/ 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be now read  a  second 
time :—The  Bill was  accordingly  read a second 
time, and committed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Taff Vale 
Second  Reading  of  the  Taff  Vale  Railway ®ailway 
(Rhymney Railway, Vesting,  &c.)Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time Ye1fjn8> 

) 

BUI \Lords.]

upon Monday next. 

, 

Postponed  proceeding  on  Question,  That  a Supply (Civil 

s um  not  exceeding  £ 1 8 3 , 6 77   b e  granted   to  H is  S e r v es  and 
Majesty,  to complete the sum necessary to defray Departments 
the charge which will come in course of payment Estimates.) 
during the year ending  on the 31st day of March 
] 910  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses  of  the 
Office of the Irish Land  Commission, resumed. 

Question again proposed: 
Question put, and agreed to. 
Resolution  to be reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 

Deputy  Chairman  reported,  That  the  Com­
mittee had come to a Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  also  acquainted  the 
House  that  he  was  directed  to move, That the 
Committee may have leave to sit again. 

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254 

24£ft June. 

1909. 

[No.  82. 

Resolved,  That this House will,  upon Monday 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

Ordered, That the Bill be  read a  second  time 

upon Thursday  the 22nd day  of July next. 

Supply 
[14th  June] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 14th day  of this instant June; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received upon 

Monday next. 

Supply 
[3rd  June] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 3rd day  of this instant June ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
Supply 
[27th April]  the Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
Report. 

t he  2 7 j . h  d ay   o f  A p r  U 

l a gt   . 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
Supply 
Repn0drtMarCh]  i n t  0  consideration  the Sixth  of  the Resolutions 
(Deferred 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day  of  March  last,  were 
Resolution.)  reported from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the 

22nd day  of M arch last; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Health. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  (Pro- ^ovisionai 
visional Orders)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Wednesday the 7th day  of July next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the inter-


Second Reading  of  the Intercommunion Bill; 

communion 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 


upon Thursday next. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Pedlars Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend- Amendment 
ment Bui; 


,  T,-,,  

Bill, 

& 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 


to-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Prohibition of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Prohibition  of  Yivi- Vivisection 
section  Bill; 


T>.n 

Bill, 

.. 

6 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 


upon Thursday next. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Sea Fisheries 

Second Reading of the Sea Fisheries Regulation Regulation 
(Scotland)  Bill  ; 

(Scotland) 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 


into further consideration  upon Monday next. 

upon Thursday next. 


Supply 
[17th  June] 
Report. 

The Order  of  the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 17th day  of this instant June ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received upon 

Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Burial Places 
Second Reading  of  the Burial  Places (Exemp- (Exemption 
tion from Rates)  (Scotland)  Bill; 
(Scotland)0 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time Bill, 

to-morrow. 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of Ways  and Means ; 

Resolved, That  this House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve  itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Metropolitan 

Second Reading of the Metropolitan Ambulances Ambulances 
Bill; 

. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Friday the 2nd day  of July next. 

Public Works 
Loans Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Works  Loans 
Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours of 

Second Reading  of  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Sur- Jiab°ur 
p 
tacemen)  B i l l;

(Surfacemen) y

v 

? 

, 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

upon Tuesday next. 

Labour 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Exchanges  Committee  on  Labour  Exchanges  fSalaries, 
[Salaries, &c.] 

^ . 

Resolved, That this House will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Oaths Bill. 

The Order  of the day  being  read,  for  taking 
into consideration  the Oaths Bill,  as amended in 
the Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be taken  into further 

consideration upon Monday next. 

Local 
Education 
Authorities 
(Medical 
Treatment) 
Bill. 

The  Order of  the  day  being read, for taking 
into consideration  the  Local  Education Autho-
rities (Medical  Treatment) Bill  (not amended in 
the Standing Committee) ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon Monday next; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Bank Holidays 

Second Reading  of the Bank Holidays Bill; 

BllL 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 
Second Reading  of  the Dogs' Protection Bill;  Protection 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act ^Vndment 
(1875) Amendment (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

(Water 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time lights)  Bill, 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Cheap Trains 

Second Reading  of the Cheap Trains Bill;

Bil1­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Remission  of 
Surcharges 
(Dublin)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on  the  Remission  of  Surcharges 
(Dublin) (recommitted)  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Pawning 
Second Reading of the Pawning Industrial Tools industrial 
Bill; 
'  Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 
upon Tuesday next. 

Tool3BlU­

Local 
Authorities 
(Adverting)   ( A d y e r t i s ; n g)   B i l l; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Authorities 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to  

sit  till  twenty-eight  minutes  after  Eleven  

of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow.  




No.  83.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

25th June. 

255 

[No.  83.] 
Friday,  2oth June 1909. 
The House met  at Twelve  of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

London and 

fT^HE House proceeded to take into considera­
tion  the  London  and South Western Rail­
1 
\_Lords.~]  way Bill  [Lords'], as amended in the  Committee. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Malvern  Hills 
Ordered, That the Malvern Hills Bill  [Lords],
Bill [Lords.]  a s  amended  in  the  Committee,  be  taken  into 

consideration upon Monday next. 

Pontypool Gas  The House  proceeded  to take  into  considera­
and  water 
tion  the Pontypool Gas and Water  Bill  [Lords],
BUI [Lords.] ag  a m e n d ed   i n  t he   Committee. 

Several Public  Petitions were  presented, and -Public 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

Vide Third 
Report. 
Mr.  Runciman presented,  by  His  Majesty's Board  of 
Command,—Copy  of Regulations for the Train- Education, 
ing  of  Teachers  for  Elementary  Schools  (in 
force from 1st August  1909). 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

" 

Sir  Frederick  Banbury,  supported  by  Lord Wild  Birds 
Edmund  Talbot,  "Mr.  Carlile,  Mr.  Stanley £™tection 
Wilson, Mr.  Courtenay Warner,  Mr. Mac Veigh,  g'jjj ^Qj.
Captain  Murray,  Mr.  Osmond  Williams, and 
Mr.  Ramsay  Macdonald,  presented  a  Bill  to 
amend the Wild  Birds Protection Acts,  1880 to 
1904 :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be  read 
a second time upon Wednesday next;  and to be 
printed. 

And  Amendments  were made to the  Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Local 
•Government 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 
(No. 4)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  the 

Orders°(No. 4)  t h i r  d  T I ME  A ND   P A S S E D -
Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk,  do  carry the Bill to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Local 
The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 
Government  (No. 5)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order, read the 
Ordlr^c. 5) ^ird  time and passed. 
Bin. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Local 
The  House,  according  to Order, proceeded to 
Government  take  into  consideration  the  Local  Government 
Orders'(G^s)  Provisional  Orders  (Gas)  Bill,  as  amended  in 
Bill. 

the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the  third  time 

upon Monday next. 

The  House, according  to Order,  proceeded  to 

Local 
Government  take  into  consideration  the  Local  Government 
oXSs10(No. 3) Provisional  Orders  (No.  3)  Bill,  as amended in 
Bill. 

the  Committee. 

* 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read the third time 

upon Monday next. 

The  House, according  to Order, proceeded  to 

Local 
Government  take  into  consideration  the  Local  Government 
Provisional 
Order (No. 3)  amended in the Committee. 
Hill 

(Ireland)  Provisional  Order  (No.  3)  Bill,  as 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the  third  time 

upon Monday next. 

The House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to 
Metropolitan 
Commons 
take  into  consideration  the  Metropolitan Com-
Provisional  m 0 I ls  Provisional  Order  Bill,  as  amended  in the 
Order  Bill. 

Committee. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  the third time 

upon Monday next. 

Pier  and 
Harbour 

The  House, according to Order,  proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Pier  and  Harbour 
Orders (No. 2) Provisional  Orders  (No.  2)  Bill,  as amended in 
Bill. 

the Committee. 

Ordered, That the. Bill  be read the third time 

upon Monday next. 

Mr.  Seddon,  supported  by  Mr.  Shackleton,  Restraint  of 

Mr.  Price,  Mr.  Clement Edwards,  Mr.  Tyson Titles  ^ 
Wilson,  and Mr.  Arthur  Henderson,  presented  a  ' 2 ^  265" 
Bill  to  render  null  and  void certain  provisions 
in Shop Assistants' Agreements :  And the same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Tuesday the  6th  day  of  July next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for  taking Sale  of 

into  consideration  the  Sale  of  Intoxicating Intoxicating 
Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill,  as  amended  in  the Sunday Bill. 
Standing  Committee ; 

And  a Motion being  made, and the  Question 
being  put, That  the  Bill  be  recommitted  to  a 
Committee  of  the whole House—(Sir  Frederick 
Banbury) ; 

The House divided.  

The Yeas  to the  Right; 

The Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the (Sir  Frederick Banbury,  )  


Yeas, 

(Mr.  Remoick: 
Tellers for the ("Sir  Thomas Whittaker,  ]   ^ g  


/


Noes, 

(Mr.  Charles Roberts: 

[ 

So it passed in the  Negative. 
Then the  House  proceeded  to  take  the Bill, 
as  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee, into 
consideration. 

A  Clause was offered  to be added  to  the  Bill 
(Supply  of  intoxicating  liquors  in  clubs  on 
Sunday).—(Mr.  Newdegate.) 

And the said Clause was brought up, and read 

thefirst time. 

And  a  Motion  being made, and the  Question 
being proposed, That the said Clause  be now read 
a second time : —And a Debate arising thereupon; 
Sir  Thomas  Whittaker rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

And the Question being put, That  the  Ques- Question put 

tion  be  now  put; 
TT 

1 

t 

-n 

mi 
The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Sir  Thomas  Whittaker,  1 
J 
I  57.
J 

Tellers for theJ Captain  Craig, 

(Mr.  Renwick : 

iMr.  Clough  : 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

lfi« 

(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
0f Debate.) 

The House,  according to  Order, proceeded to 
Sea Fisheries 
t a' s e  *nto  cons *derati°n  the Sea Fisheries (Tees) 
Provisional 
Order Bill.  Provisional  Order  Bill,  as amended in the Com­

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

And the Question being accordingly put, That 


the said Clause  be now read a second time ; 

mittee. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  the third time 

upon Monday next. 

VOL .  164. 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 

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25tli—28th June. 

1909. 

[No.   83. 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the ( Mr.  Newdegate, 

) 
) 
( Mr.  Belloc; 
Tellers for the ( Sir  Thomas  Whif taker, ) 

{ Mr.  Charles  Roberts :  j 

Noes, 

85. 

167. 

So it passed in the Negative. 
An Amendment was  proposed  to be  made to 
the Bill,  in  p.  1,1.  5,  by leaving  out subsection 
(1)  of Clause  1.—(Mr.	  Staveley-Hill.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 

words  proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  end  of 
l,  1.  5,  stand  part  of  the  Bill:—And  a 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of the day being read,  for  taking Handloom 
into  consideration  the  Handloom  "Weaving  Bill,  Weaving Bill, 
as amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Remission of 

Committee  on  the  Remission  of  Surcharges 
(Dublin)  (recommitted) Bill; 

(Dublin)  BllL 

ebate arising thereupon ; 
Sir  Thomas  Whittaker  rose  in  his  place  and 

Resolved, That this House will,  upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

B

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

And the Question being  put, That  the Ques­

tion  be now put; 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the j  Sir  Thomas Whittaker,)  214 

Yeas, 

( Sir  George  White'. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Staveley-Hill, 

Noes, 

( Mr. James  Mason : 

j 
}
j 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And the Question being  accordingly put, That 
the  words  proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  end 
of p.  1,  1. 5, stand part  of the  Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the  Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the (Sir  George White, 

Yeas, 

(Sir  Herbert  Roberts : 


Tellers for the I Mr.  Staveley-Hill, 
I Mr.  James Mason : 

Noes, 

1 
/ 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,1.  6,  by  leaving  out 
the word "  ten," and inserting the word " fifteen " 
—(Viscount  Castlereagh),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  "  ten "  stand  part  of  the  Bill :—And  a 
Debate arising thereupon; 

And  it  being  Five  of  the  clock,  the Debate 

stood adjourned. 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be  resumed  upon 

Monday next. 

Temperance 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of the  day being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Temperance  (Scotland) 
Bill,  as amended in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next, 

Under 
Sheriffs 
(County-
Boroughs) 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The Order  of  the day  being read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs  (County 
Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

Licensed 
Premises 
(Election 
Days)  Closing 
Bili. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for taking 

into consideration  the  Licensed Premises (Elec­
tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

The Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Criminal 
APPeal Bil1­

Second Reading  of the Criminal Appeal Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Police Super-

Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Superannuation annuation 
S ^ B i l l  . 
(Scotland) (No.  2)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the Merchant  


Second  Reading  of.  the  Merchant  Shipping Shipping 

(Lighthouses)  Bill; 

(Lighthouses) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Pedlars Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend- Amendment 
ment Bill; 

Bm< 

227. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

57. 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Burial Places 
Second  Reading  of  the  Burial  Places (Exemp- (Exemption 
tion from Rates)  (Scotland) Bill; 
(Scotland? 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time Bill> 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,,  for  the Dogs' 
Second Reading  of  the Dogs'  Protection Bill;  Protection 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

Bill. 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap Trains 

Second Reading  of the Cheap Trains Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Deputy Speaker adjourned 

the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant  to  Standing  Order  No.  3,  it being 

then five minutes after Five  of  the clock, 

till Monday next. 


[No.  84.]  

Monday, 28£A June 1909. 

The House met at a quarter  of  an hour 

before Three  of the clock. 


P R A Y E R S. 

THE  Cardiff  Corporation  Bill  was  read  the Cardiff 

third time and passed. 

Corporation 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry the Bill to 

Bule 
Committee 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Rule  Committee  Bill,  as 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee; 

The  Oxford  and  District  Tramways  Bill  was Oxford and 

read  the  third  time  and  passed;  with  a  new District 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 





25th June. 

257 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

No.  83.]  9  E D W.   VII. 
Tramways
fjrew Title.]

Title,  as  folio we th :—A  Bill  to  confer  further 

  powers  upon the City  of Oxford Electric Tram­

ways, Limited,  and  to  amend  the  Oxford  and 
District  Tramways  Act,  1907,  and  for  other 
purposes. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Durham
Etotric Powertion 
Supply  Bill
[Lords.]

The House proceeded  to  take into considera-
t£ie   • D u r h am  (County)  Electric  Power 

Supply  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  in  the  Com­
mittee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
London and 
North Western Third  Reading  of  the  London  and  North 
Railway  Bill.

  ^iiwlj  Bill; 

W e s t e r n

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third  time 

upon Thursday next. 

Glamorgan
Water Board

L

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

T h i rd   R e a ( w   0 f  the  Glamorgan  Water  Board 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  the third time 
to-morrow,  at a  quarter  of  an hour  after Eight 
of the clock. 

The  Local  Government  (Ireland)  Provisional Local 

Order (No. 3) Bill was, according  to Order, read JXndT* 
the third time and passed. 
Provisional 
3> 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The Metropolitan Commons Provisional Order Metropolitan 

Bill was, according  to Order, read the third time 
and  passed. 

Order Bill. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The  Pier  and  Harbour  Provisional  Orders Pier and 
(No.  2)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read the Harbour 
Provisional 
> • , . • , ,/ 
third time and passed. 
Orders (No. 2) 

° 

, 

, 

' 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to BiU­

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The  Sea  Fisheries (Tees)  Provisional  Order Sea Fisheries 

Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  the  third  (Tee8.\ 
,  ' 
, . 
time  ana  passed. 

Provisional 
Order Bill.; 

j 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Greenock
Corporation
Bl11'

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for taking 
int0  consideration  the  Greenock  Corporation 
Bill,  as amended in the Committee ; 

The Great North  of Scotland  Railway  Order Great North of 
Confirmation  Bill  was, according to Order, read ^owa"*Order 
the third time and passed. 
Confirmation 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  to-morrow,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of the clock. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to Bm­

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Malvern Hills  The House, according  to Order, proceeded  to 
Bill [Lords.] take  into  consideration  the  Malvern  Hills  Bill 

[Lords'],  as amended in the Committee. 

And Amendments were made to the Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Gateshead and
District
£ l T [ S .]

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Gateshead  and  District 

  Tramways Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

South Eastern
^°n(i011'
and Dover
Railways  Bill

  [Lords]  ; 

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  Second  Reading  of  the  South  Eastern  and 
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill 

[Lords.j

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second time 

Several Public  Petitions were  presented, and Public 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

vide ThM 
Report. 
The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to Private 

the directions of"  an Act  of  Parliament, — Copy 
of  Report  by  the  Chairman  of  Committees 
the House  of  Lords and the Chairman  of  Ways Act, 1899. 
and  Means  in  the  House  of  Commons  under 
the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland) 
Act,  1899, that  they are  of  opinion (1) that the 
provisions  of  Clause  108  of  the  Colinton  Tram­
ways Order  and  of  Clause  10  of  the Hamilton 
Burgh  Order are  of  such a  character  that they 
ought  to  be  dealt  with  by  Private  Bill  and not 
by  Provisional  Order;  and  (2)  that,  save  as 
aforesaid, the  Provisional  Orders  be allowed  to 
proceed,  subject  to  such  recommendations  as 
they  may  hereafter  make  with  respect  to  the 
several Orders. 

upon  Thursday next. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Tabie. 

Taff Vale
Railway

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Taff  Yale  Railway 
(Rhymney Railway,  Vesting, &e.) Bill  [Lords]; 

Bilfr^mfo 1 
L or

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second time 

Up0n  Thursday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after  Eight  of  the clock. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Electric 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Lighting  Acts, 
Report  by  the  Board  of  Trade  respecting  the 
Applications  to, and  Proceedings  of,  the  Board 
of  Trade  under  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts, 
1882  to 1902, during the present year. 

205, 

Gas 
Provisional 
Order  Bill. 

The Gas Provisional Order Bill was, according 

to Order, read the third time and parsed. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Local
Government
oXf(GaS)
Bill.

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 
  (Gas)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  the 
  third time and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 
Local
3 y  Bill  was, according  to Order, read  the 
Government
,   . / 
Provisional
Orders (No. 3) third time ana passed. 
Bill. 

VOL. 164. 

' 

' 

e

'

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His  Army. 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Memorandum 
by  the  Army  Council  on  the  existing  Army 
System, and on the present state  of the Military 
Forces in the United Kingdom. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Colonel  See It/ presented,  by  His  Majesty's Colonial 

Command,—Copy  of Report  No.  59 (Northern  j ^ P^ 
Nigeria, Report  on  the  Results  of  the Mineral laneous.) 
Survey,  1906-7,  by  Professor  Wyndham  R. 
L  L 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
258 	

28th—29th June. 

1909. 

[No.  84. 

Dunstan,  P.R.S.,  Director  of  the  Imperial 
Institute). 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

National 
Schooi 
Teachers 
(Ireland) 
Pension "Fund.  o f 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Annual 
Accounts  of  Receipts and  Payments  in respect 

t h  e  National  School  Teachers 

(Ireland) 

Pension Fund  for  the  period  to 31st December 
1908. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Board o£ 
Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His 
Agriculture 
and Fisheries. 	 Majesty's Command, —  Copy  of  Report  on the 
Research  Work  of  the  Board  of  Agriculture 
and Fisheries in relation  to the Plaice Fisheries 
of the  North  Sea.  Vol.  II.,  Special  Statistics 
(Size and Weight),  1906-7  and 1907-8. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

York County 
(North 
Riding) 
(Cleveland 
Division) 	
Writ. 	

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his 
Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to make 
out a new Writ  for the electing  of  a Member to 
serve  in this  present  Parliament for the County 
of York (North  Riding) (Cleveland Division), in 
the  room  of  the  Right  Honourable  Herbert 
Louis  Samuel,  who,  since  his  Election  for the 
said county, hath accepted the Office  of  Steward 
or  Bailiff  of  His  Majesty's  Three  Chiltern 
Hundreds  of  Stoke, Desborough, and Burnham, 
in  the  County  of  Buckingham. —  (Mr.  Joseph
Pease.) 

Message from  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
the Lords.  Message  had  been brought from  the  Lords  by 
one  of  their Clerks,  as followeth : 

Railway Rates  The Lords have agreed to the Railway  Rates 
and Charges  and Charges Provisional  Order ( Weston, Cleve-
Provisional 
don,  and  Portishead  Light  Railways)  Bill, 
Order 
without any Amendment. 
(Weston, 
Clevedon, and 
Portishead 
Light 
Railways)  Bill. 
York  Town 
and  Black­
water Gas  	
(Electric 
Lighting,  &c.)  desire the concurrence  of this House. 
Bill, 

Preston, 
Horwichan<1  Chorley,  and  Horwich  Tramways  Bill,  with  

Amendments ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  

Tramways 
concurrence  of this House.  

Rill- 
The Lords  have agreed  to  the  Amendments  

Midland 
Railway  Bill  made  by  this  House  to  the  Midland  Railway 
[.Lords.] 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  York  Town 
and  Blackwater  Gas  (Electric  Lighting,  &c.) 
Bill,  with  Amendments ;  to  which  the  Lords 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Preston, 

Bill [Lords],  without any Amendment. 

The Lords have agreed  to  the  Amendments 
Grantham 
Water Bill  made by this House to the Grantham Water Bill 
[Lords.] 
[T,ords], without any Amendment. 

Clevedon 
The Lords  have agreed  to  the  Amendments 
Water  Bill  made by this House  to the Clevedon Water Bill 
[Lords.] 

[Lords],  without any Amendment.  


The Lords  have agreed  to  the  Amendments 
Worksop 
Water Bill  made by this House  to the Worksop  Water Bill 
[Lords.] 
[Lords],  without any Amendment. 

The Lords  have  agreed  to  the Amendments 
Dudley 
Corporation  made by this  House  to the  Dudley Corporation 
Bill  [Lords. J 

Bill  [Lords],  without any Amendment. 

Donington 
The Lords  have agreed  to  the  Amendments 
Water Bill  made  by  this  House  to  the  Donington  Water 
[Lords.] 

Bill  [Lords],  without any Amendment. 

Finance Bill. 

T he  House,  according  to  Order, resolved  itself 

into  a  Committee   on  the  Finance  Bill. 

(In the Committee.) 

Clause No.  1 (Duty  on increment value). 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  1,  1. 20, 
after  the  word  "  sale,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  after  the  twenty-ninth  day  of  April  nineteen 
hundred and thirty."—(Mr.  James Hope.) 

Question proposed, That  those words  be there 

inserted: 

Amendment proposed  to the proposed Amend­
ment,  to  leave out  the  word  "  thirty,"  in order 
to insert  the  word  "  fourteen."—(Mr.  Laurence 
Hardy.) 

Question, That  the  word "  thirty "  stand part  

of the proposed Amendment, put, and agreed to. 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there  


inserted. 


The Committee divided. 


Tellers for the I 

Alexander Acland-

Yeas

' 

H o o d '	  

( Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

1 Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 

] 
f 1 1 9, 
J 

289. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in  p.  1,  1. 20, 
to  leave  out  the  words "  or any interest  in the 
land."—(Sir  Francis  Lowe.) 

Question  proposed, That  the  words "or  any 
interest "  stand  part  of  the  Clause :—Debate 
arising ; 

Mr.  Attorney  General  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to move, That the Question  be now put. 

Question put,  That  the  Question  be now put. Question put 
ao^Closure 
The Committee divided. 
of ^bate.) 
Tellers for thef Mr. Herbert  Lewis, 

•> 
)  221. 

| Captain Norton : 

Yeas, 
Tellers for the f 
Noes, 

Alexander Acland­

<  Hood, 
[Viscount  Valentia: 

98. 


J 

Question put accordingly, That the words "  or  


any interest"  stand part of the Clause. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Herbert  Lewis, 

(Captain Norton : 


Yeas, 
Tellers for the j 
1 
Noes5 
[Viscount  Valentia: 

Alexander Acland-

.Hood>  

268. 

j 
f 1 0 5> 

J 

Another Amendment made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,1.  21,  

after  the  words  last  inserted,  to  leave  out  to 
the  word "  and,'  in  1. 23. —  (Sir John Dickson-
Poynder.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "  or  the 

grant"  stand part  of the Clause: 

Tuesday,  29th June 1909 : 

Mr. Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose in his 

place  and  claimed  to move,  That  the  Question.  

be now put. 

Question  put, That  the Question  be now put. Question put 
The Committee divided. 
^O^Closure 
of  Debate.) 
Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
_  ,, 
. 
Tellers for the. 
Noes, 

( M r. Herbert Lewis  :  


Sir Alexander Acland-


R o  < 

| Viscount  Valentia  : 

|  234. 

1116. 
J 

Question put accordingly, That the  words "  or 

the grant"  stand part  of the Clause. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the J Mr. Joseph Pease, 
I Mr. Herbert Lewis 

I Sir John Dickson-

, 
1  Poynder,
[Mr. Bertram : 

Yeas, 
j} 
m n 
Tellers for the I 
Noes 
iNoes, 

„ 

|  254. 

1120. 











 


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259 


Another  Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,1. 22, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  less  than  seven,"  in 
order to insert the words "  not exceeding twenty­
one."—(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Superannua­

Second Reading of  the Superannuation Bill;


tIon Bl11­

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 


this day. 


Question, That  the  words "  less  than seven  " 

stand  part  of the Clause, put, and negatived. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "not 

exceeding  twenty-one "  be there inserted : 

Proposed  Amendment  amended  by  leaving 
out  the  words  "  twenty-one,"  and  inserting  the 
word  "  fourteen."  —  (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

Question,  That  the  words  "  not  exceeding 
fourteen "  be there inserted, put, and agreed to. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  1,1.  23, 
after  the  word  "  land,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  Provided  that  increment  value  duty  on  the 
occasion  of  a sale  or lease shall  not  be  payable 
upon  any  transaction  taking  place  within five 
years  of  the last bonfifide payment  of increment 
value duty."—(Mr. Joynson-Hicks.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted: 

Whereupon  Motion made, and  Question  pro­
posed,  That  the  Chairman  do  report  Progress, 
and  ask  leave  to sit again—(Captain  Craig): — 
Motion,  by leave, withdrawn. 
Original  Question put. 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the [Mr. Joynson-Hicks, 

Yeas, 

(Sir  Samuel  Scott: 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking Trade Boards 

into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  asBlU­
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this clay. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming Cinemato­
the  adjourned Debate  on the Question proposed 8raPh BlU­
upon  the  21st, day  of  April  last, That the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read  a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  this day. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read,  for  taking Board of 
into  consideration  the  Board  cf  Trade  Bill,  as Trade BilL 
amended in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Secretary  of 

Second Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill;  

an<j Fisheries 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time BllL 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Established 
Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church  ^  ^  Bil| 
(Wales)  Bill; 

}  82.  


Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

185. 

upon Monday next. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,  1. 23, 
after  the  word  "  land,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  other  than  land  acquired  for  the  purpose  of 
being  so sold  or leased."—(Lord  Robert  Cecil.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 
Second Reading  of  the London  Electric  Supply J?lecl;ritL„ 
1 1  J  Supply  Bill. 
B i l l .  

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

upon Friday next. 

inserted. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Lord  Robert Cecil, 

Yeas, 

L Mr. Lambton : 

Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Mr,  Herbert  Lewis : 

68. 

169. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 2,  1.1, 

to leave out paragraph (b).— (Mr.  Carlile.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to  be left  out,  to the word "  after,"  in p. 2,  1. 1, 
stand part  of the  Clause : 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish Land 

Committee  on the Irish Land  Bill; 

Bl11­

Resolved, That this House will,  upon Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the day being read, for resuming Houses  of 
the adjourned Debate on the Amendment which, Parliament 
upon  the  20th  day  of  April  last,  was  proposed 
to  be made  to the  Question,  That the Houses of 
Parliament Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

'  To report Progress, and ask leave  to sit again. 

till Monday next. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and Means  reported, That 
the Committee  had  made  Progress  in the Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee may have leave to sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Labour 
Exchanges 
[Salaries,  &c.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  beins  read,  for  the 
Committee  on  Labour  Exchanges  [Salaries, 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Public  Works 
Loans Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Works  Loans 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

V O L.   164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Places  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship Jnfranehise­
ment) Bill. 
(Enfranchisement) Bill; 

Ordered, That „ the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Election of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Election  o f  A l d e r m e  n  Aldermen  in 
in  Municipal  Boroughs  B i l l; 

Boroughs Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish Land 
[Advances, 

Committee  on  Irish Land  [Advances, &c.]; 

. OCC.J 

Resolved, That this House will,  upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Electric 

Second Reading  of  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment)  Bill  [Lords']; 

L  L  2 

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Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

June. 
1909. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

[No. 84. 

upon Friday next. 

sideration upon Friday next. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, 
&c. Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  InlandInland 
Revenue Bill; 

Revenue BiIU 

Resolved,  That this House will, upon  Monday 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

upon Friday next. 

Buildings and 
Engineering 
Works BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Buildings and Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 24th day  of this instant June; 

Ji'«e] 

ileport" 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received upon 

Thursday next. 

Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 
BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Telegraph (Arbitration) 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second time 

apon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Supply. 

Committee  of  Supply; 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Wednes­
day next, resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

Check-
weighing in 
various 
Industries 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of the Checkweighing in various 
Industries  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

Thursday next. 

upon Monday next. 

The Order  of the day being read, for receiving Supply 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of [14th June] 
the 14th day of this instant June ; 

Report. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Dublin Police
Bil1­

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Dublin Police Bill; 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supplv  of [3rd June] 
the 3rd day  of this instant June ; 

Beport-

' 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

Lunacy 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Lunacy (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill be  read a  second  time 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of L'27th APr^] 
the 27th day  of  April last; 

Eeport' 

upon  Monday next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

Local 
Government 
(Audit  of 
Accounts) 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government 
(Audit  of Accounts)  (Ireland) Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill be read  a  second  time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for  taking Supply 
into  consideration  the  Sixth  of  the  Resolutions [22ndMarch] 
which,  upon  the  23rd  day  of  March  last, were (Deferred 
reported from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of  the Resolution.) 
22nd day  of  March last; 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the County  Councils  Mort­
gages  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 
into further consideration upon Thursday next. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of J^7t0hr;Jane] 
the 17th day  of this instant June ;

epor

 ' 

Assistant 
Postmaster 
General Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 
General Bill ; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Merchandise 
Marks 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Merchandise  Marks 
(Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

Fisheries 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Fisheries (Ireland)  Bill; 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Ways and 

Committee  of Ways  and Means ;

Means-

Resolved,  That this House will,  upon Wednes­
day next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for  taking Oaths Bin. 

into consideration the  Oaths  Bill,  as amended in 
the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be taken  into further 

consideration upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for taking Local 
into consideration  the  Local  Education  Autho- Education 
rities (Medical  Treatment) Bill (not amended  in ^edieii68 
the  Standing  Committee) ; 
Treatment) 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  Con­

Milk  and 
Dairies Bill.  , 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Milk and Dairies  Bill; 

V Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

sideration this day. 

upon Friday next. 

London 
Elections  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into consideration the  London Elections Bill  (not 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee); 

The Order  of the day being read, for resuming Sale of 
:the adjourned Debate on the Amendment  which, Intoxicating 
upon  the  25th  day  of  this  instant  June,  was g ^ ay BM. 
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of  Intoxicating  Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill, 
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till Tuesday the 6th day  of July next.­

Under Sheriffs  The  Order of  the day  being read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs (County 
<County-
Roroughs) 
{Ireland)  Bill.  	 Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Licensed 
Premises 

The Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 

into consideration  the  Licensed Premises (Elec­
iSya^Closing  tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Bill. 

Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Tuesday  the  6th  day  of  July 
next. 

Remission of 
Surcharges 
(Dublin)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
Committee	  on  the  Remission  of  Surcharges 
(Dublin)  (recommitted) Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time  


upon Monday next. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Open Spaces 

Second Reading  of  the  Open Spaces  (Scotland) (Scotland) 
Bill; 

BiU-

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the plumage 
Second Reading  of the Plumage (Prohibition  of (Prohibition 
Sale  or Exchange of) (No. 2)  Bill; 
of) 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time (No. 2)  BilL 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Theatres and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music Music Halls 
Halls  Bill; 

BiU-

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Rights  of 
Second  Reading  of  the Rights  of  Way  Bill;  Way Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Wednesday  the 7th day  of July next. 

•Conveyancing  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for t h  e 
BiU- 

Second Reading  of the Conveyancing Bill ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Bank Holidays 

Second Reading  of the Bank  Holidays Bill  ; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Territorial 
Army  Ballot  Second Reading  of  the Territorial  Army Ballot 
Bill. 

Bill ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  public Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act Act (1875) 
fwater"16^ 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water Rights) Bill; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time Bights)  Bill, 

this day. 

Irish National 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
meatin  and  Second  Redding  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
olfTnstag)11 
Bl11-

(Heating and Cleansing)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  pediars Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-Amendment 
ment Bill; 

Bm-

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this day. 

Necessitous 
Mothers 
(Assistance) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Necessitous  Mothers 
(Assistance)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday next. 

The.  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 
Second Reading  of the  Dogs' Protection  Bill;  Protection 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second time 

Bill. 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Firearms 
(Scotland  and  Second  Reading  of  the Firearms (Scotland and 
Ireland)  Bill. 

Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

liocal 
Authorities 
(Legal 
Expenses) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of the Local Authorities (Legal 
Expenses)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

Municipal 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Corporations  Second Reading  of  the  Municipal  Corporations 
o?ctergymen)  (Qualification  of Clergymen) Bill [Lords]  ; 
Bill  {Lords.} 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

Biackgame 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Biackgame  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Law Agents (Scotland) 

L&w Agents 
(Scotland) 
Amendment  Act  Amendment Bill; 
Bill. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Cheap Trains 

Second Reading  of  the Cheap Trains Bill; 

BlU-

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

And  it being  after  half-past  Eleven  of  the  

clock  on  Monday  evening,  Mr.  Speaker  

• adjourned  the  House  without  Question 
put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order,  it 
being  then  twelve  minutes  before Three 
of  the  clock  on  Tuesday  morning,  till 
this day. 

[No.  85.] 

Tuesday, 29th June 1909. 

The House met  at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three  of the clock. 


P  E A TE  R  3. 

A

MOTION  being  made,  That  the  London London and 
and  South  Western  Railway Bill  [Lords]

be now read the third time ; 

[Lords'.] 

Secretary Sir Edward  Grey,hy  His Majesty's 
Command,  acquainted  the  House  that  His 
1 L3 

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Majesty,  having  been  informed   of  the  purport 
of  the  Bill,  gives  His  Consent,   as  far  as  His  Abortion  in  Cattle. 
Majesty's  interest  is  concerned,  that  the  House 
may  do  therein  as they  shall think  fit. 

29th June. 

Table. 


into  Epizootic  Abortion. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper   do  lie  upon  the 

1909.  [JSTo.  85.  


Part  I.,  Epizootic 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and  


passed,  with  Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  L o r d s;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  with  Amendments  ;   to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

Pontypool Gas  The  Pontypool  Gas  and  Water  Bill 
and  Water 
Bill [Lords.'] 

was  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with 
Amendments. 

[Lords]

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  with  Amendments  ;  to 
which  this  House doth  desire  the  concurrence   of 
their  Lordships. 

Great Western  The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera-
Raiiway 
(General 
tion  the  Great  Western  Railway 
(General 
Powers)  Bill.  Powers)  Bill,  as amended  in  the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  the  third  time. 

North Eastern  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Railway Bill  Second  Reading  of  the  North  Eastern  Railway 
[Lords.'] 

Bill  [Lords] ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Lune 
Fisheries 
Provisional 
Order Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Lune  Fisheries  Pro-
visional  Order  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Mr.  Masterman, 

supported  by  Mr.  Burns, 
Local 
Provisional^  presented  a  Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional 
Orders (No. 9)  Orders  of  the  Local  Government  Board  relating 
Bill. 

to  Maryport,  the  Hitchin  Joint  Hospital  Dis­
trict,  and  the  Whaley  Bridge  Joint  Sewerage 
District. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide Third 
Report. 

Factory and 
Workshop 
(Tinning  of 
Metals.) 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read  ;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,   by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy   of  Report  to  the 
Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department 
by  Mr.   E.  T.   H .  Lawes,  Barrister-at-Law,   on 
the  Draft  Regulations  proposed   to  be  made  for 
Factories  and  Workshops  in  which  Tinning   of 
Metal  Articles   is  carried  on. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant   to  the Super-


directions  of  several  Acts   of  Parliament,— Copy  animations,  

of  Treasury  Miuute,  dated  25th  June  1909, 
under  the  Superannuation  Act,  1859,  declaring  

that  for  the  due  and  efficient  discharge   of  the  

duties  of  the  Office  of  Assistant  for  Common  

Law  and  Admiralty  Business   in  the  Treasury 
Solicitor'^  Department  professional  or  other 
peculiar  qualifications  not  ordinarily  
to  be 
acquired  on  the  Public  Service are  required.  


Copy   of  the  Eighty-seventh  Report   of  the  Woods, 
s

Commissioners of  His  Majesty's  Woods,  Forests,
and  Land  Revenues,  dated  29th  June  1909. 

'  , 
Revenues. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers   do  lie  upon  the  No.  206. 

T a b l e;  and  that  the  Paper  relative   to  Woods, 
Forests,  and  Land  Revenues   be  printed. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,   by  His  Majesty's  Boaid of 

Command,—Copy  of  Code   of  Regulations  for Education.  

Public  Elementary  Schools in  Wales  (including*  

Monmouthshire),  with  Schedules,  1909.  


Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper   do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Mooney  reported  from  the  Committee  Private Bill? 

on  Group  E   of  Private  Bills  ;  That,  for  the  (Group E.) 
convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Tuesday  next,   at  half  an  hour 
after  Eleven   of  the  clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Sir  David  Brynmor  Jones  reported 

from  Standing 

Standing  Committee   C,  to  whom  the  Marine  ^™™Jttee 
Insurance  (Gambling  Policies)  Bill  was  re- insurance 
ferred  ;  That  they  had  gone  through  the  Bill  (Gambling 
and  made  Amendments  thereunto. 

Policies) Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the  No.  207. 

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Ordered,  That the  Minutes  of  the  Proceedings  No.  207. 

of  the  Standing  Committee  be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,   as  amended  in  the  Bill  266. 

Standing  Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration 
upon  Friday  next;  and   be  printed. 

Mr.  Soames  reported  the  Lancashire  and  Lancashire 
Yorkshire  and  North  Eastern  Railways  Bill  and Yorkshire 
[Lords'],  with  Amendments. 

and North 
Eastern 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the  j ^ J J J  B i  U 

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Copy  of  Rules  made   by  the  Secretary  of 

Juvenile 
OfEenderg 
(Detentionand ® t a t  e  *'or 
t h  e  Home  Department,  dated  21st 
Maintenance.)  May  1909,  as  to  Places of  Detention  under  the 

Ordered,  That  the  Bishopric   of  Sheffield  Bill, Bishopric  of 
as  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee,  be  Sheffield Bin. 
taken  into  consideration  to-morrow. 

Children  A c t,  1908. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone 

Factory and 
also  presented, 
Workshop 
pursuant  to  the  directions  of  an  Act   of  Parlia­
(Schemes for 
Regulation of  ment,—Copy  of  Scheme  for  the  regulation   of 
Hours of 
hours  of  employment,  intervals  for  meals,  and 
Employment, 
rest  for  workers   in  the  Church  Army  Homes   at 
&c. in 
Pelham  Lodge,  Is'leworth,  and  Saint  Helena's 
Charitable 
Institutions.)  Home,  Upper  Grove,  Margate,  approved   by  the 
Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department, 
in  pursuance  of  the  powers  conferred  on  him  by 
the  Factory  and  Workshop  Act,  1907. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Epizootic 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to- Salmon, 
morrow,  the  Salmon,  Trout,  and  River  Tweed  Trout,and 
Fisheries  Bill  was  read,  and  discharged. 

Fisheries Bill 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  11 th  clay  of  August  next. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords   by  t he  L o r d s -
one  of  their  Clerks,  as  followeth  : 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Cork,  Bandon,  Cork, Bandon, 

and  South  Coast  Railway  Bill,  with  A m e n d - » n d
ments; to which the  Lords desire the concurrence  Railway Bill 
of  this  House. 

  S o u th 

^Departmental Majesty's  Command,-Copy  of  Report  of  the 
the 
Committee.)  Departmental  Committee  appointed  by 
Board  ol  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  to  inquire 

Ordered,  That  the  Sale   of  Margarine  Bill,  as Sale  of 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee,   be  taken  Margarine 
into  consideration  upon  Friday  next.  

1  ' 









No.  85.]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

29th June. 

2 63 

Public  Health 
(Sewers and 
Drains)  Bill. 
Bill  267. 

Mr.  Vivian,  supported   by  Lord  Robert  Cecil, 
Sir  William  Collins,  Mr.  Bowles,  Mr.  Fenwick, 
Sir  William  Bull,  Mr.  Water low, and  Viscount 
Morpeth,  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Public 
Health  Acts  with  respect  
combined 
Drainage  of  two  or  more  houses  belonging to the 
same  owner:  And  the  same  was  ordered   to  be 
read  a  second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and   to 
be  printed. 

to  the 

Finance Bill. 

The  House,  according   to Order, resolved itself 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Clause  No.  1 (Duty   on  increment  value). 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  2,1.  1,  to 

leave  out  paragraph  (b).—(Mr.  Carlile.) 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "  after,"  in 
p. 2,  1.  1,  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—Debate 
arising; 

Mr.  Chancellor   of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question 
be now  put. 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question   be  now  put.  

Thfe  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the  i Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  

\ Mr.  Herbert  Lewis  : 

Yeas 

• 277. 

Tellers  for  thef^""  ^ exan<^er 

Hood, 

-Acland-

118. 

Noes, 

[Viscount  Valentia  : 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "  after,"  in 
p. 2,1.   1,  stand  part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Mr.  Herbert  Lewis: 

Tellers  for  the f Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

\ Mr.  Henry  Forster  : 

|  298. 

\ 136. 

Mr.  Chancellor   of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question, 
That  the  words   of  the  Clause to the  word  "  two," 
in p.  2,1. 5, stand  part  of  the Clause,  be  now  put. 
Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
words  of  the  Clause to  the  word  "  two," in  p.  2, 
1. 5,  stand  part  of  the  Clause, be  now  put. 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Bill,  in p.  154,  1. 9,  by  leaving  out  the  words 
"  but  no  such  consent  shall  be  required  to  the 
supply  of  electrical  energy   by  the  Corporation 
to  the  Greenock  and  Port  Glasgow  Tramways 
Company  for  use  upon  the  tramways  belonging 
to  or  worked  by  that  Company."—(Mr.  Rainy.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part of  the  B i l l :— 
It  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

Ordered,  That  Standing  Orders  223  and  243 
be  suspended,  and  that  the  Bill  be  now  read  the 
third  time.—(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third  time 

and  passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 

the  Lords,  and  desire  their  concurrence. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Glamorgan 

Third  Reading   of  the  Glamorgan  Water  Board
Bill; 

.  

Bll]" 

B o a rd 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  the 
third  time ; 

A n  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  three  months."—(Mr. 
Keir  liar  die.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  "  now  "  stand  part   of  the  Question  :—The 
said  proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave   of 
the  House,  withdrawn. 

And  the  Main  Question  being  p u t; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  the  third 
time :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and  passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 

the  Lords,  and  desire  their  concurrence. 

Postponed  proceeding  on  Amendment  pro-  Finance Bill, 

posed  on  consideration  of  Clause   1 ; 

Which  Amendment  was,  in  p.  2,  1. 6,  to  leave 
out  the  words  "  any  subsequent  enactment,"   in 
order  to  insert  the  words  "  sections  fourteen  and 
fifteen  of  the  Finance  Act,  1896,  and  section 
eleven of the Finance  Act, 1900"-— (Mr.  Joynson­
Hicks),—resumed. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Herbert  Lewis  :  


Tellers  for  the f Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

I. Mr.  Henry  Forster  : 

1 

261. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words   of 
the  Clause  to  the  word  "  two,"  in  p.  2,  1.  5, 
stand  part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the J Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Mr.  Herbert  Lewis  : 

Tellers for  the .'"Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

i Mr.  Henry  Forster  : 

\  291. 

121. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another Amendment  proposed,   in  p.  2,1.  6,  to 

leave  out  the  words  "  any  subsequent  enact­
ment,"  in  order  to  insert  the  words  "  sections 
fourteen  and  fifteen  of  the  Finance  Act,  1896, 
and  section  eleven  of  the  Finance  Act,  1900."— 
(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks.)

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to  be  left  out  stand  part   of  the  Clause  ; 

And  it  being  a quarter  of  an  hour  after  Eight 
of  the  clock, and there being Private Business set 
down  by  direction  of  the  Chairman  of  Ways  and 
Means  under  Standing  Order  No.   8,  further 
proceeding  was postponed  without  Question  put. 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  words  pro­

120. 

posed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause  : 

Question  put. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Herbert,  Lewis: 

Tellers  for  the/"Mr.  Joynson-Hicks, 

Noes, 

{ M r.  Rawlinson : 

|  251. 

}  86. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,   in  p.  2,  1.7, to 

leave  out  paragraph  (c).—(Mr.  James  Hope.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed   to  be 
left  out,   to  the  word  "  or,"  in  p.  2,  1. 7,  stand 
part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for  the [Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

LMr.  Herbert  Lewis: 

Tellers  for  the [Mr.  James  Hope, 

Noes, 

\Mr.  George  Faber: 

J

  269. 

108. 

J 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 2,1.14,  to 
leave  out  the  word  "  collected,"   in  order  to 
insert  the  word  "paid."—(Mr.  Fell.) 

Greenock 
Corporation 
Bill. 

The  House,  according   to  Order,  proceeded   to 
take into consideration  the Greenock  Corporation 
Bill,  as amended  in  the  Committee. 

Question proposed, That  the word  "  collected  " 
the  Clause  :—Amendment,   by 

stand  part  of 
leave,  withdrawn. 

V O L.   164. 

L  L  4 







 
mtk—mti, 

1909. 

[No.  85. 

Another Amendment proposed,  in  p.  2,  1. 15, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for taking Local 

at the end,  to add  the  words  Provided  that no  into consideration  the  Local Education  Autho- ^ ^  ^ 
duty shall  be payable under this  section  on  any  rities (Medical Treatment) Bill (not  amended  in (Medical 
increment value  of  land,  or  part  of  such incre- the  Standing  Committee)  ; 
Treatment) 
ment value, which has  already been paid over to 
any taxing  or rating authority."—(Mr.  Ashley.)  sideration this day. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con-

Question proposed, That those  words be there 

added :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  Under Sheriffs, 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 2,1.  15,  into  consideration  the  tinder  Sheriffs  (County (County

at the end, to  add  the words "  Provided that for Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  tlie (Ireland)  Bill. 
the purposes  of this  Act  no increment duty shall  Standing  Committee; 
be levied unless the site value  of the land, on the 
occasion  on which the  increment  value  becomes  sideration this. day. 
due,  exceeds the original site value  by an amount  

exceeding  fifteen  per  cent." —  (Mr.  Leverton  

Harris.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Remission  of 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con-

Committee  on  the  Remission  of  Surcharges 

Question  proposed,  That those words  be there  (Dublin) (recommitted)  Bill; 

added :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

( D u W m)  BlU" 

Wednesday,  30th June 1909 : 
Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause,  as 

amended, stand part  of the Bill: 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Road Traffic 

Motion  made, and  Question,  That the Chair- Second  Reading  of  the Road  Traffic Bill;

Bi»­

man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer),—  upon Thursday the 8th day  of July next. 
put, and agreed to. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second jtime 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Foreign and 

Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the Committee had  made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the  Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 
Committee may have leave to sit again. 

Second  Reading   of  the  Foreign  and  Colonial  Colonial 
Meat Bill; 

upon Tuesday next. 

MeatBiU" 

* 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming Local 

the adjourned Debate  on the Question proposed Government 
^ 
Labour 
Exchanges  Committee  on  Labour  Exchanges  [Salaries,  Government Qualification  (England and Wales)  wales) Bill. 
[Salaries, &c-l 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the upon  the  7th  day  of  May last,  That the Local

Bill  be now read a second time ; 

 ^ 

. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day,  Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

till Tuesday next. 

Public Works 
Loans BilL 

Superannua- 
tion Bill. 

this day. 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Works  Loans  Second Reading  of  the Hours  of  Labour (Sur- Labour 
Bill; 

facemen)  B i l l; 

' 

(Surfacemen) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time  Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial industrial 

Second  Reading  of  the  Superannuation  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second time  Tools Bill; 

ToolsB511­

Trade Boards 
Bill. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  as 
amended  in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Irish National 

Second  Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools Schools 
(Heating  and Cleansing) Bill; 

S ^ )  0  " 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  timeBil1­

Cinemato- 
graph Bill. 

Board of 
Trade Bill. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming  upon Tuesday next. 

the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon the 21st day  of  April  last, That the Cine-
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the plumage 
Second  Reading  of  the  Plumage  (Prohibition (Prohibition 
^ n ge  of) 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned of  Sale  or Exchange of) (No.  2)  Bill; 

till this day. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a  second  time (No- 2) BiU­

The Order  of  the day being  read, for  taking 

upon Monday next. 

into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as 
amended in the  Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con- Halls  Bill; 

sideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Theatres and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music  Music Halls 

Bm­
Ordered,  That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

coal Mines 
(Check-
weighers) Bill.  w e i g h e r g s )  

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 

j n t0  consideration  the  Coal  Mines  (Check­
in  the  Standing 

a g  a m e n a e d 

this day. 

Committee; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Bank Holidays 

Second Reading  of the Bank  Holidays Bill; 

Bm-

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con-

Ordered,  That  the Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

sideration  upon  Tuesday  next. 

upon  Thursday  next. 

No.  85.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

29th—SOfh  June. 

Public-Health 
Act  (1876) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Rights)  Bill.' 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment (Water Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Friday next. 

Pedlars  Acts 
Amendment-
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second'  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend-
ment Bill ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Dogs'  Protection  Bill ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

this day. 

Cheap  Trains 
Bill., 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Cheap Trains  Bill; 

Table. 


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

And it being after half-past  Eleven  of  the 
clock  on  Tuesday  evening,  Mr. Deputy 
Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without 
Question put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing 
Order, it  being  then seven minutes after 
Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Wednesday 
morning, till  this day. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur-Shop Hours 

suant  to  the  directions  of  several  Acts
Parliament,  —  Copy  of  Order  made  by  the 
Council  of  the  Borough  of  Poole  under  the 
Shop  Hours  Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by  the 
Secretary  of  State for  the  Home  Department, 
fixing the  hours  of closing for certain classes of 
Shops. 

ofAct'1904­

Copy  of  Regulations,  dated  30th  June  1909, Factory and 
made  by  the  Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home Workshop Acts 
Department,  in  pursuance  of  Section  79  of  the and Dnh«athy 
Factory and Workshop Act, 1901,for the Tinning industries.) 
of  metal  hollow-ware,  iron  drums,  and  harness 
furniture. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie upon the  


Mr. Hobhouse  presented,—Return  to  an Order, Revenue  and 
dated  the  loth  day  of  this  instant  June, for a Expenditure 
Return  relative  to  Revenue  and  Expenditure 
(England,  Scotland, and Ireland). 

(England, 
Scotland,  and 
Ireland.) 

No. 208. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  also  presented,  pursuant  to the Post Office 
directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,— Savings  Banks. 
Account  of all deposits received and paid during  No. 209. 
the  year  ended  31st  December  1908  ;  together 
with a Statement showing the aggregate amount 
of the liabilities  of the Government  to depositors 
in  the  Post  Office  Savings  Banks  on  the  31st 
December  1908,  and  the  nature  and  amount  of 
the securities held  by the Commissioners for the 
Reduction  of  the  National  Debt  to  meet those 
liabilities  at that date. 

Account,  for  the  year  ended  31st  December Savings Banks 

[No.  86.] 

Wednesday,  3 0  t  h  June  1 9 0 9. 

The  House met at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three of  the clock. 

P R  A  Y E R S. 

Bristol  THE  House proceeded  to take into considera-

tion the Bristol  University  Bill  [Lords], as 

University 
Bill  [Lords.] 

amended in the Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

East  Sussex 
County 
Council  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Southport 
and  Lytham 
Tramroad 
(Abandon-
ment)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  House  proceeded  to  take into considera-
tion  the  -East  Sussex  County  Council  Bill 
[Lords],  as amended in the Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The  House proceeded  to  take  into  considera­
tion  the  Southport  and  Lytham  Tramroad 
(Abandonment)  Bill  \_I,ords],  as amended  in the 
Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Local 
Ordered,  That  in  the  case  of  the  Local 
Government  Government  Provisional  Orders  (No.  9)  Bill 
^VerSs°(No. 9) Standing Order 193a  be suspended, and that the 
... 
finci^ 
D i ll  L  A  Mnnr 
i  I  U/\  I  .noiwmnvi 
Bill  be now read thefirst time.—(The Chairman 
BiU. 

+•»4-v 

Bill 268.  of Ways  and Means.) 

Societies. 

No. 210. 

1908, showing the interest  accrued  in  respect of 
the securities standing in the names of  the Com-
missioners  for  the  Reduction  of  the  National 
Debt  to  the  credit  of  the  Post  Office  Savings 
Banks  Fund, tlie  interest  paid  and  credited to 
depositors  in  pursuance  of  the Acts  relating  to 
Post  Office  Savings  Banks,  and  the  expenses 
incurred  in  the  execution  of  those  Acts  : 
Account,  for  the  year  ended  20th  November 
1908, showing the  interest  accrued  in respect of 
the securities  standing  in the names of the Com­
missioners  for  the  Reduction  of  the  National 
Debt  to the  credit  of  the  Fund  for  the Banks 
for  Savings, and  the  interest  paid  and  credited 
to  trustees  of  Savings  Banks : 
Account, for 
the  year  ended  20th  November  1908,  showing 
the interest  accrued  in  respect  of  the  securities 
standing  in the  names  of  the Commissioners  for 
the  Reduction  of  the  National  Debt  to  the 
credit  of  the  Fund  for  Friendly  Societies, and 
the  interest  paid  and credited to  the trustees of 
Friendly Societies. 
•  Account  of  Revenue  and  Expenditure  in isle of-Man.  

respect  of the Duties  of  the Customs  of  the Isle  No. 211. 

of  Man,  and  Accounts  of  the  Accumulated 
Fund,  and of Passenger Tax  and Harbour Dues, 

for  the  year  ended  31st  March  1909;  together  

with the Report  of the Comptroller and Auditor 

General thereon. 


The Bill was accordingly read thefirst time. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and 
be printed. 

Copy  of  Amendment  of  N OS. 10 and  12  of the Elementary 

Elementary  School  Teachers'  Superannuation School 
Teachers' 
"Riilps  1 8 99 
Superannua-
x t u i e s,  I » y y. 
Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the tion Kules-

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Third 
Report. 

Mines and 
Quarries. 

Several Public  Petitions  were presented, and 

read :  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  General  Report 
and Statistics for the year 1907.  Part I V., Colo­
nial  and  Foreign  Statistics;  Statistics  relating 
to Persons employed, Output,  and  Accidents  at 
Mines and Quarries  in  the  British Colonies and 
in Foreign Countries. 

V  O L.   164. 

Table;  and that the  Papers relative  to Revenue 
and  Expenditure  (England,  Scotland,  and Ire­
land), Post Office Savings Banks, Savings Banks 
and Friendly  Societies, and the  Isle  of  Man  be 
printed. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His Fishery 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Twenty-seventh Bi)ard 
Annual  Report  of  the  Fishery  Board for Scot-(  co 
land, being for the year 1908.  Part II.,  Salmon 
Fisheries. 

d,) 

M  M 

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266 

30th  June. 

1909.  [No. 86. 
Mr.  Soames  reported from  the  Committee  on Great Western 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Educational 
Colonel  Seely  presented,  —  Return  to  an 
Expenditure  Address  to  His  Majesty,  dated  the  29th  day 
(Colonies.) 

o f  J u ly   i n  t he  l a gt  S e s s i on   o f  Parliament,  for 

No. 212.  a  R e t u  m  showing, for each  of the last five years 
for which thefigures are complete and available, 
the  Expenditure  of  the  Governments  of  the 
Dominion  of  Canada  and its  Provinces  respec­
tively,  of the Commonwealth of Australia and  of 
its  constituent  States  respectively,  of  the Cape 
Colony and  of  Natal,  and  of  New  Zealand, on 
Education, elementary, technical, secondary, and 
university,  showing  separately  any Expenditure 
of  public  money  on  scholarships  and  on post­
graduate or research work, specially in connection 
with  science  and  agriculture,  as  well  as with 
Other  subjects  and  industries ;  in  the  case  of 
consolidation  of schools,  the money spent  out  of 
public funds, and, where possible,  out of  private 
funds,  to  be  indicated,  whether  in  the  con­
struction,  equipment,  or  maintenance  of central 
schools,  or  in  the  conveyance  of children,  or in 
other  ways,  and  the  number.-*  of  children  in 
average  attendance, boys  and  girls respectively, 
in such schools  to be stated. 

the  Great  Western  Railway  (Steam  Vessels) 
Bill  [Lords'];  That  they  had  examined  the vessels) Bill 
allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  [Lords.']
Bill,  and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it 
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed  by  the  Committee,  and found  the  same, 
as  amended,  to  be  true;  and had gone  through 
the Bill and made Amendments  thereunto ;  and 
had amended the Title of the Bill, as followeth:— [Title 
An  Act to authorise the Great  Western  Railway amended-] 
Company to own and use Vessels for the convey­
ance  of  traffic between  the  Ports  of  Weymouth 
and  Plymouth  and  the  Ports  in  the  Channel 
Islands and  certain French Ports,  and for other 
purposes. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and  be printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message had  been  brought from  the  Lords  by the  Lorda­
one of their Clerks,  as followeth: 

The Lords have agreed to the Wallasey Tram- Wallasey 

ways and Improvements Bill? with Amendments; 
to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of ments Bill, 
this House. 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Board of 
Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Education.  Command,—Copy  of  Syllabus  of  Lessons  on 
"  Temperance"  for  Scholars  attending  Public 
Elementary  Schools. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Trade Reports 
(Annual 
Series) 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic 
and Consular Reports, Annual  Series- No.  4257. 
Ordered, That the said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Criminal and  Mr. Birrell  presented,  by His  Majesty's Com-
mand,—Copy  of Criminal and Judicial Statistics 
Judicial 
Statistics 
of  Ireland  for  the  year  1908.  Part  II.,  Civil 
(Ireland.) 
Statistics. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

The following Papers, pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,  were  laid 
upon the Table  by  the Clerk  of the House :— 

Lunacy. 

Copy  of  the  Sixty-third  Report  of  the Com-

No. 213.  missioners  in Lunacy  to the Lord Chancellor. 
King's College,  Copy  of  Statutes  and  Regulations  for  the 
Constitution  and  Management  of  University  of 
London, 
Commission.  London King's  College. 

No. 214. 

King's College,  Copy  of  Statutes  for  the  Constitution  and 
Transfer 
Management  of  University  of  London  King's 
Commission.  College for Women. 

No. 215. 

King's College,  Copy  of  Statutes  and  Regulations  for  the 
London, 
Constitution and Management  of  the Theological 
I 'ran of pp 
_ 
Commission.  Department  of King's  College, London. 

o 

" 

No. 216. 

King's College,  Copy  of  Statutes  for  regulating  the  Con-
Transfer 
stitution  and  Management  of  King's  College 
Commission.  School,  Wimbledon. 

No. 217. 
Public Works 
Loans Bill. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  be printed. 
Ordered,  That there  be laid before this  House 

a  Copy  of  Statement  of  particulars  of  Loans  of 
which the balances  outstanding  are  proposed  to 
be  remitted  or written  off,  in  whole  or  in part, 
from the assets  of the Local Loans  Fund.—(Mr. 
Hobhouse.) 

A  Motion was made, and the  Question  being Banks 
proposed, That leave  be given  to bring  in a Bill (Hnclaimed^ 
to  provide for  the  disclosure  and  handing over s^rities!)1 
by  Bankers  to  the  Department  of  the  Public 
Trustee  of  the amount  of  the  dormant Balances 
and Securities  in their possession, and  of  unpre­
sented  old  bank-notes  issued  by  them —  (Mr. 
Bottomley) ; 

And  the  Motion  being  opposed,  after a brief Mr. Speaker 

explanatory  statement  from  the  Member  who 
made  the  Motion  and  from  a  Member  who (pursuant to 
opposed  it,  Mr. Speaker  put  the Question,  pur- S.O. No. 11.) 
suant to Standing  Order No.  11. 

The  House divided. 

The Yeas  to the  Right; 

The  Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the | Mr.  Bottomley,  


Yeas, 

(Sir  Henry  Cotton  :  


Tellers for the ("Mr.  Rees,  


Noes, 

\Mr.  George Hardy  :  


j-  181. 

I  55. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Bottomley,  Mr.  Barnard,

Sir  Henry  Cotton, Mr.  Dunn,  Mr.  Hart-Davies,
Mr.  Llewelyn  Williams,  Mr.  Chiozza  Money, 
Mr.  Bertram Straus, Mr. Bowerman,  Mr. Jowett,
Mr.  Belloc,  and  Mr.  Glooer  do  prepare  and 
bring  in the  Bill. 

Mr.  Bottomley  accordingly  presented  a  Bill Banks 

to  provide  for the  disclosure  and  handing  over (Unclaimed 
by  Bankers  to  the  Department  of  the  Public ^ea(!^sa)Qd 
Trustee  of the amount  of  the  dormant  Balances Bill, 
and Securities  in  their possession,, and of  unpre-  Bill 269. 
sented  old  bank-notes  issued  by  them :  And 
the same was read thefirst time,  and  ordered  to 
be  read a second time  upon  Monday next;  and 
to be printed. 

Ordered,  That  leave  be  given  to  bring  in  a  Cottage Homes 

Bill  to  enable  local  authorities  and  privatefor Aged 
individuals  to  co-operate  in  the  provision  ofPersons* 
dwellings  suitable  for  occupation  by  Aged 
Persons, where  no suitable houses are available : 
And  that  Mr.  Pretyman,  Colonel I.ockwood, Sir 
Thomas  Nussey,  Sir  Berkeley  Sheffield,  Mr. 
Shackleton, and  Mr.  Verney  do  prepare  and 
bring it in. 

Mr.  Preiyman accordingly  presented  a Bill  to Cottage Homes 

enable  local  authorities  and  private  individuals *or AsedR.1I 
to  co-operate  in  the  provision  of  dwellings  ^"iTWn' 
suitable for occupation by Aged Persons^ where 
" 

1 

No.  86.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

30th June.—1st  July. 

2 67 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis: 

"  site "  stand part  of the Clause. 

|  296. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the i Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

no suitable houses are  available :  And  the same 
was read the first time,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  tirhe  upon  Monday  the  19th  day  of 
July next;  and to  be printed. 

Finance  Bill. 

The House, according to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on the Finance Bill. 

(In the Committee. ) 

Clause No.  1 (Duty  on increment value). 
Question  again  proposed,  That  the  Clause, 
as  amended,  stand  part  of  the  Bill: — Debate 
arising; 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
8.0.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Mr. Chancellor  of  the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place and  claimed  to  move, That  the  Question 
be now put. 

Question put, That the Question  be now put. 

The Committee divided. 

Tellers for thef Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Mr. Herbert Lewis : 

1  ggQ  

J 

T  ,, 

,  |  Sir  Alexander Acland- 1  


Noes 
' 

Hoo(i>  

1
(Viscount  Valentia : 

f 1 1 4, 
J 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause, 

as amended, stand part  of  the Bill. 

Tellers for t h 4 ^ \ f  k f a n d e  r  A c l a n d~ 

Noes 
' 

1 
(Viscount  Valentia  :  


' 

112. 

Clause No. 2 (Definition  of increment  value).  

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the  


Clause  be postponed.—(Mr.  James  Mason.') 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  George  Faber, 

Yeas, 

\Viscount Helmsley  :  


Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis: 

Noes, 

80. 

249. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 2,1.  16,  to leave 

out the words "  of this part."—(Mr.  Fell.) 

Question  proposed. That  the words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause : — 
Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 2,  1. 17, 
after  the word  "  amount,"  to  insert  the  words 
"not  being  Jess  than fifteen per  cent,  of  the 
original site value."—(Mr.  Mitchell-Thomson.) 

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 2,  1. 18, 
after the word "  any,"  to  insert  the  words  "as 
ascertained  by commissioners specially appointed 
for this purpose, and subject  to appeal  as herein­
after provided."—(Mr. Chaplin.) 

Question proposed,  That those words be there 

inserted: 

Thursday, lstf July  1909 : 

Question,  That those words  be there inserted, 

put, and negatived. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed, That 
the Chairman  do report Progress, and ask leave 
to  sit  again—(Sir  John  Dickson-Poynder) :— 
Debate arising ; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer rose in his 
place  and  claimed  to  move, That the Question 
be now put. 

Question put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question put, That  the Question  be now put. 

The Committee divided. 

Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Question  put accordingly,  That the Chairman 

do report Progress,  and ask leave  to sit again. 


The  Committee divided. 

Tellers for thef Lord Edmund Talbot, 


Yeas, 

( Mr.  Henry  Forster : 


Tellers for the|  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

96. 

>214 

Noes, 

\ Mx.  Herbert Lewis: 

J 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 2,1.  18, 
to leave  out  the  word "  site,"  in order  to insert 
the  word  "capital."  —  (Sir  John  Dickson-
Poynder.)

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  site" 

stand part  of the Clause:—Debate  arising ; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer rose in his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That the Question 
Be  now put. 

Question put, That the Question  be now put.  Question put 
(pursuant  to 
mi 
• 
1 he  Committee  divided. 
S.O. Closure 
\ 1(J2  of Debate.) 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
J 

I Mr. Herbert  Lewis : 

Yeas, 

^exander

Acland-

Tellers for thef^r
' 

<  Hood, 
(Viscount  Valentia:  

Question  put  accordingly,  That 

l\oes, 

"1
j  76. 
' 

the  word 

164. 

Yeas, 
j. 
, r  i, 
1 ellers tor the I  D 
Noes
' 

t Mr.  Herbert Lewis \ 

I Sir John Dickson­
,
  Poy rider, 
1
(Mr.  liidsdale: 
Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer  rose  in his 
place and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question, 
That the words  of the Clause to  the end  of  1. 20 
of p. 2 stand part  of the Clause,  be now put. 

J 

34. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the Question put 

words  of  the Clause  to the  end  of  1. 20  of  p. 2 (PP'™ant t0 
S.O. Closure 
stand part of  the Clause,  be now put. 
of  Debate.) 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for theJMr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
Tellers for the f 

\Mr.  Herbert  Lewis:  


Alexander  Acland­

Noes, 

| Viscount  Valentia : 

j


162. 

73. 


Question put  accordingly, That  the  words of 

the Clause to the end  of  1. 20  of  p. 2  stand  part 
of the Clause. 

The Committee divided. 

Tellers for thefMr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

I Lord Edmund Talbot: 

I 
 164. 
)

73. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the Chairman  do report Progress,  and ask leave 
to sit again—(Mr.  Ridsdaie) :—Debate arising; 

Mr.  Clough rose in  his  place  and  claimed  to closure 
move, That  the  Question  be now put;  but  the claimed, but 
Chairman withheld his assent, and declined then ^v,1™]^ his 
to put that Question :—Debate  resumed. 

assent. 

, 

I 

Mr.  Ridsdaie  rose  in  his place and claimed to Closure 
move, That  the  Question  be now put;  but  the claimed, but 
Chairman withheld his assent, and declined then 
to put that Question :—Debate resumed. 

withholds his 
assent. 
The  Chairman  called  the  attention  of  the Member 
Committee  to  the  tedious repetition  on the part requested  to 
of Mr.  Stanley Wilson,  Member for the Holder-  J ^ ^  X 
ness  Division  (East  Riding  of  Yorkshire),  and 
directed him  to discontinue his speech. 

T-V  I 

I 

. 

Question put, and agreed to. 

,, 

Yeas, 
/. 
Tellers for the 
JNoes, 
V O L.   164. 

'.Mr.  Herbert Lewis  : 
,i  I Sir Alexander Acland-

^ 

[Viscount  Valentia: 

, 

\  g^g  

/ 

95. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported,  That 
the  Committee had made Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee may have leave to sit again. 

M  M  2 











 


268 	

BOth  June.— 1st July. 

1909. 

[No. 86. 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday 
next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Wild Birds 
Second  Reading  of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection Protection 
Bill; 

BlU" 

8 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this

  day, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours  of 

Second Reading  of  the  Hours  of Labour  (Sur- ^ab°ur 
facemen)  Bill; 

|urfacemen) 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of Ways  and Means; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

this day. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this

  day, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Labour 
fsalwi^'&e 0 Committee  on  Labour  Exchanges  [Salaries, 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Public Works 
Loans Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Works  Loans 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

Superannua-
tion  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Superannuation  Bill ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

this day. 

Trade  Boards 
Bill. 

The Order  of  the  day being read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  as 
amended in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Cinemato-
graph  Bill.  	

The Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on  the  Question proposed 
upon the  21st day  of  April last, That the Cine­
matograph  Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till this day. 

Board of 
Trade  Bill. 

The Order  of  the day being read, for  taking 
into consideration the Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as 
amended  in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Theatres and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music ^sic Halls 
Halls Bill; 

BlU-

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

' 

• 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Pedlars Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts Amend- Amendment 
ment Bill; 

1 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 
Second Reading  of the Dogs'  Protection Bill;  Protection 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap Trains 

Second Reading  of the Cheap Trains Bill; 

BUI-

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

this day, 

Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return  to an Order,  Public  Works 

dated  the  30th  day  of  this  instant June,  for  a Loans Bm-
Return  relative  to  the  Public  Works  Loans 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

And  it  being after  half-past Eleven  of  the  

clock  on Wednesday evening, Mr. Deputy 

Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without  

Question  put, pursuant  to  the  Standing  

Order,  it  being  then eight minutes after 

Four  of  the clock  on Thursday morning,  

till this day. 


Bishopric of 
Sheffield BilL  i n t 0  consideration  the Bishopric  of  Sheffield  Bill, 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking 

as amended in the Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day . 

[No.  87.] 

Thursday, 1st July  1909. 
The House met at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three  of the clock. 


Local 
Education 
Authorities 
(Medical 
Treatment) 	
BUI. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
into  consideration the  Local Education Autho-
rities  (Medical  Treatment)  Bill  (not  amended 
in the Standing  Committee) ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Under Sheriffs  The Order  of  the day being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  tinder  Sheriffs (County 
(County 
Boroughs) 
Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
(Ireland)  BiU. 
Standing Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

Remission  of 
Surcharges 
(Dublin)  Bill.  (Dublin)  (recommitted)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on  the  Remission  of  Surcharges 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

P B A T E E S. 

THE  House proceeded to  take into considera- Preston, 


tion  the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords chorley, and  

to the Preston, Chorley, and Horwich Tramways tramways  

Bill;  and the same were twice ready and agreed Bill, 

to. 


Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint them that this House 
hath agreed  to the  Amendments  made  by their 
Lordships. 

„  v 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  into considera- York Town 
tion the Amendments made  by the Lords  to the and Black-
York Town and Blackwater Gas (Electric Light- flfectric" 
ing,  &c.)  Bill;  and  the  same  were  twice  read, Lighting, &c.) 
and  agreed  to. 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to  

the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that this  House  

hath agreed  to  the Amendments  made  by their 

Lordships. 


NO.  87.]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

1 st July. 


Bungay  Water  A  verbal Amendment was made to the Bungay
Bill  [Lords.] 
Water  Bill  [Lords];  and the Bill  was  read the 
third time and passed, with Amendments. 

County  of  London,  dividing  the Parliamentary

Borough  of Lewisham into  Polling Districts. 


Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie upon  the  


Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 
the Lords ;  and acquaint  them  that  this House 
hath agreed to  the  same, with Amendments ';  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

Table, 


Secretary Sir Edward  Grey  presented,  by  His Trade  Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  and (Annual 
Consular Reports, Annual  Series, No. 4279. 

Senes° 

The Durham (County) Electric Power Supply 
Bill  f Lords] was read the third time and passed,

Durham 
(County) 
S i t l S r  6 1  with Amendments.
Supply  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this House 
hath agreed  to the  same, with Amendments ;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

Malvern HillB 
Bill  [Lords.] 

A  Motion  being  made,  That  the  Malvern 

Hills Bill [Lords]  be now read the third time ; 
Mr.  Burns,  by  His  Majesty's  Command,
acquainted the House that  His  Majesty, having
been informed of  the  purport  of  the  Bill,  gives 
His  Consent,  as  far  as  His  Majesty's  interest 
is  concerned,  that  the  House  may  do therein as 
they shall think fit. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


220 

The  Master  of  Elibanh presented,  pursuant  East  India 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—  (Loans raised 
Return  of  all  Loans  raised  in  India,  charge-m 
able  on  the  Revenues  of  India,  outstanding  at 
the  commencement  of  the  half-year  ending  on 
the 3lst  March  1909, with  the  rates  of  interest 
and  total  amount  payable  thereon,  and  the 
date of the  termination  of  each  Loan,  the  debt 
incurred during the half-year, the moneys raised 
thereby  during  the  half-year,  the  Loans  paid 
off or discharged  during  the  half-year,  and the 
Loans outstanding  at the close  of the half-year ;
stating,  so  far  as  the  public  convenience  will 
allow, the  purpose  or  service for  which  moneys 
have been raised during the half-year. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie upon the 

passed, with Amendments. 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 
the Lords;  and acquaint  them  that  this House 
hath agreed to the same, with  Amendments;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence  of 
their Lordships. 

"Liverpool 
Corporation 
Bill. 

The  House proceeded  to take  into  considera-
tion the Liverpool Corporation Bill,  as  amended
in the Committee. 

And Amendments were made to the Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Wakefield 
•Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.]  amended  in the Committee. 

The  House  proceeded  to take into  considera • 

tion  the  Wakefield Corporation Bill  [Lords],  as

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

London and 
The  London  and  North  Western  Railway
North Western Bill  was, according  to Order, read the third time
Railway  B.ll, 

p a g s e d> 

a m[ 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry the  Bill to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the Superannua­
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  oftion  Aot>1887­
Treasury  Minute under the Superannuation Act, 
1887, dated 23rd  June  1909,  granting  a, retired 
allowance  to Mr. James Rushton,  Sorting Clerk 
and Telegraphist,  Bedford Post Office. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon  the  


Table. 


Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Colonial 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  No.  601  (Report Reports 
( A n n u a-
on the Work  of the Imperial Institute,  1908). 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the Board  of 
Education
Committee  on  the  Board  of  Education  Scheme 
Scheme
(Cheshunt  College)  Confirmation  Bill  [Lords]  ; (Cheshunt 
That  they  had  considered  the  Order  therein College)

Contained ;  that  the  said  Order  ought  to  be 
confirmed;  and  that  they, had  directed  him  to [Scheme 
report  the  Bill,  without  Amendment,  to  the confirmed.] 
House. 

Confirmation

Bill  [Lords.]

Gateshead and  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
District 
Tramways 
Bill  [Lords.]  Tramways  Bill [Lords']  ; 

Second  Reading  of  the  Gateshead and District

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the  third time 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

to-morrow. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the Local 

South Eastern 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
and London,  Second  Reading  of  the  South  Eastern  and 
and Dover 
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill 
Bailways BiU  [Lords]  ; 
[Lords.] 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Committee  on the Local  Government  (Ireland) Government 
Provisional  Orders  (No.  1)  Bill  [Lords]-,  That  ^ i o u ai 
they  had  considered  the  Orders  therein  con-Orders (No.  1)
tained;  that  the  said  Orders  ought  to  be J?*11 [Lo'-dsS; 
confirmed;  and  that  they  had  directed  him  to &££s
lslonal
report  the  Bill,  without  Amendment,  to  the confirmed.]
House. 

Several  Public  Petitions were presented, and 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the  Table.

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Third 
Report,
Elementary 
Ordered,  That  the Paper relative to Elemen-
School 
tary  School  Teachers'  Superannuation  Rules,
Teachers' 
Superannua- which was presented upon the 30th day  of  June 
tion  Rules. 

last, be printed. 

No. 219. 

Polling 
Districts 
(County  of 
London.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the

VOL.  164. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the  third time 

to-morrow. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the Local 

Committee  on  the  Local  Government (Ireland)
Provisional  Orders (No.  2)  Bill  [Lords]  -,  That WovMonal 
they  had  considered  the  Orders  therein  con-Orders (No. 2)
tained;  that  the  said  Orders  ought  to  be  ^ f
confirmed ;  and  that  they  had directed  him  to orders 

 ^ 

M  M  3 

confirmed.] 

270 	

1st July. 
report  the  Bill,  without  Amendment,  to  the  true ;  and  had  gone  through  the Bill  and made 
House. 

Amendments thereunto. 

1909. 

[No.  87, 

Ordered.,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the 
Marriages 
Provisional  Committee  on  the  Marriages  Provisional  Order 
Order  Bill. 
[Provisional 	 Bill;  That  they  had  considered  the  Order 
therein contained;  that  the said Order  ought  to 
Order 	
confirmed.] 	
be  confirmed;  and  that  they  had  directed  him 
to  report  the  Bill,  with  Amendments,  to  the 
House. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the  South 

Committee  on  the  South  Staffordshire  Water Staffordshire 
Bill  [Lords]  ;  That  they  bad  examined  the  J 
allegations contained in the Preamble of the Bill, 
and amended the same so as to make it consistent 
with the provisions  of the  Bill  as  passed  by the 
Committee,  and found  the  same,  as amended, to 
be  true ;  and  had  gone  through  the  Bill  and 
made Amendments thereunto. 

{

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  the  Raven- Ravengiass 
glass  and  Eskdale  Railway  Bill  [Lords],  with ?:nd Eskdale 
Railway  Bill 
Amendments. 
[Lords.]

Electric 
Lighting 
Provisional 
Order  (No.  2) 
Bill  [Lords.']
[Provisional 
Order 
confirmed.] 

Gas Orders 
Confirmation 
(No. 2)  Bill 
f Lords.] 
[Provisional 
Orders 
confirmed.] 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the 
Committee  on the  Electric Lighting Provisional 
Order  (No.  2)  Bill  [Lords]  ;  That  they  had 
considered  the  Order  therein  contained ;  that 
the  said  Order  ought  to  be  confirmed;  and 
that  they  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill, 
with Amendments,  to the House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the 
Committee  on  the  Gas  Orders  Confirmation 
(No.  2)  Bill  [Lords]  ;  That  they had considered 
the  Orders  therein  contained;  that  the  said 
Orders  ought  to  be  confirmed;  and  that  they 
had directed him to report the Bill,  with Amend­
ments,  to the House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the 
Local
  Committee  on the Local Government Provisional 
Provftonal*
OrdeTs°(No.  8) Orders  (No.  8)  Bill;  That they  had considered 
the  Orders  therein  contained ;  that  the  said 
Bill.
  Orders ought to  be confirmed:  and that they had 
[Provisional
Orders 
directed him to report the Bill,  without Amend­
confirmed,] 
ment,  to the House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie

  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read the third  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the 
.Frimley and
  Committee  on  the  Frimley  and  Farnborough 
Farnborough
KB [xLl?]® District Water  Bill  [Lords];  That  with respect 
to the Instruction  of the House of the 12th May 
last evidence was laid before the Committee that 
the  provisions  of  the Bill were adequate for the 
supply  of  water  by  measure  for  agricultural 
purposes  within  the  area  of  supply,  and that 
the  Company  are  satisfactorily  affording  such 
supply, and that it  was  not  necessary  to impose 
further  obligations  upon  the  Company  with 
reference thereto,  or  as  to  the  conditions under 
which persons should  be  entitled  to demand and 
receive such supply. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and  be printed. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the Westminster 

Committee  on  the  Westminster  City  C o u n c i  l  City  Council 
(Superannuation,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords]  ;  That they tion^&cOB?ll 
had  examined  the  allegations  contained  in  the  [Lords.]
Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and  amended  the same so 
as  to  make  it  consistent  with  the  provisions of 
the Bill  as passed  by the  Committee,  and found 
the same to  be true;  and  had  gone  through the 
Bill and made Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Ordered,  That the Infant Life Protection Bill  Infant  Life 
Protection 

be read a second time to-morrow. 

The Order for resuming,  upon  Tuesday next, Local 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment  which, Q0V,%nmtent 

upon  the  7th  day  of  May  last,  was  proposed (Engla^and 

to  be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the  Local  Wales) Bill. 

Government  Qualification (England and Wales) 

Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time,  was read, and 

discharged. 


Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 
till  Wednesday the 28th day of this instant July. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords by the Lords, 
one of their Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have agreed  to  the  Musselburgh Musselburgh 

Gas  Order  Confirmation  Bill,  without  any 
Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Caledonian 
Railway  Order  Confirmation  Bill,  without any 
Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Musselburgh 
Corporation 
(Extension  of  Boundaries,  &c.) 
Order  Confirmation  Bill,  without  any  Amend­
ment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Glasgow 
Hospital for  Skin  Diseases  Order  Confirmation 
Bill,  without any Amendment. 

The • Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Merchants Merchants 

House  of  Glasgow  (Buchanan  and  Ewing  Be­
quests)  Order  Confirmation  Bill,  without  any 
Amendment. 

Gas Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 
Caledonian 
Railway  Ordei-
Confirmation 
Bill 

Musselburgh 
Corporation 
(Extension  of 
Boundaries, 
&c.)  Older 
Confirmation 
Bill. 
Glasgow 
Hospital  for 
Skin  Diseases 
Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 

House of 
Glasgow 
(Buchanan 
and  Ewing 
Bequests) 
Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 
Pontypool  Gas 
and Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Deputy  Chairman  further  reported  from 
the  Committee;  That  they  had  examined  the 
allegations  of  the  Bill,  and found  the  same  to  be 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Pontypool  Gas  and 
Water  Bill  [Lords],  without  any  Amendment. 

 
 
 
No.  87.]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

1st July. 	

2 71 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
london and 
Eailway Bill™ m a d  e  by this  House  to  the  London  and  South 
Western  Railway  Bill  [Lords],  without  any 
[Lords.] 
Amendment. 

Edinburgh 
The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Act  to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under the 
Merchant 
Endowments  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act, 
Order 
1899,  relating  to  the  Edinburgh  Merchant 
Confirn^tjon  Company  Endowments;  to  which  the  Lords 

1  L  T  'J  desire the concurrence  of this House. 

The  Edinburgh  Merchant  Company  Endow-
Edinburgh 
Merchant 
ments Order Confirmation Bill  [Lords] was read 
Company 
Endowments  the first time,  and ordered  (under  Section 9  of 
the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland) 
Order 
Confirmation  Act,  1899)  to be read a second time to-morrow ; 
Bill 

[Lords.]  and to  be printed. 

Bill  271. 

Sir  Henry  Kimber  reported  from  the  Com-
l o c al 
Government  mittee  on  the  Local  Government  Provisional 
Orders (No.  7)  Orders  ( No.  7)  Bill;  That they had  considered 
Bill. 
the  Orders  therein  contained;  that  the  said 
Orfer!fi0nal  Orders  ought  to  be  confirmed ;  aud  that  they 
confirmed.]  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill,  with 

Amendments,  to the House. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

Sir  Henry  Kimber  reported  from  the  Com­
Private  Bills 
(Group  F.)  	 mittee  on  Group F  of  Private  Bills;  That, for 
the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Monday next,  at  Twelve  of  the 
clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Supply,  if  under  discussion when  the  Business  

is postponed this day,  be resumed  and proceeded 

with, though opposed,  after  the  interruption  of  

Business,  notwithstanding  anything  in  Standing-

Order No.  15—(The  Prime  Minister) ; 


The House divided. 

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert  L.ewis : 


Tellers for the f Mr.  Fell,  

(Mr.  Peel: 

Noes, 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 


|  203. 

}  '  


5 4. 

Ordered, That  Mr. H'aworth  be a  Member  of  House  of 
the  Select  Committee  on  House  of  Commons ^Scheifand 
(Kitchen  and  Refreshment  Rooms).  —  (Mr. Refreshment 
Joseph Pease.) 

Booms.) 

The  House, according to Order, proceeded to Supply 

take into further consideration  the  Sixth  of the [12t^ allotted 
Resolutions which,  upon the 23rd  day  of March [22nd March] 
last,  were  reported  from  the  Committee  of Report. 
Supply  of  the 22nd day  of March last ;  and the 
same was again read,  as fblloweth: 

That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £2,916,300  be Navy 

granted  to His Majesty,  to  defray the  Expense 
of Works,  Buildings,  and Repairs,  at Home  and all(j Repairs.) 
Abroad, including the cost  of  Superintendence, 
Purchase  of  Sites,  Grants  in  Aid,  and  other 
charges connected therewith,  which will come in 
course  of  payment  during  the  year  ending on 
the 31st day  of  March  1910. 

And the said Resolution  was agreed to. 

Mr.  Birrell  reported  from  the  Committee  of  Supply 

Supply  of  the  17th  day  of  June  last  several 
Resolutions  ;  which were read,  as follow : 

The  Order  for  reading  the  third  time,  to-
Trustees' 
Accounts  Bill.  morrow,  the Trustees' Accounts  Bill was  read, 

and discharged. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the third time 

upon Friday the  16th day  of this instant July. 

Ordered, That  the  adjourned Debate  on  the 
Dogs 
(Exemption)  Question  proposed  upon  the 28th day  of  April 
Bill. 
last,  That the Dogs  (Exemption)  Bill  be  now 
read  a  second  time,  be  resumed  upon Monday 
the 2dth day  of this instant July. 

Bill  272.  	

Special  Land  Mr.  Hills, supported by  Mr. Buckmaster, Mr. 
Tenures  Bill.  Cave,  and  Mr.  Stewart-Smith, presented a  Rill 
to amend  the  Law  of  customary freeholds and 
of  freeholds  subject  to  peculiar customs:  And 
the same was ordered  to  be  read  a second time 
upon Monday the 12th day of this instant July ; 
and to  be printed. 

Mr. Hicks Beach,  supported  by Mr. Staveley­

Poor  Belief 
•(Transfer of 	 Hill  and Mr.  Stanier, presented a Bill  to enable 
Inmates)  Bill.  boards  of  guardians  to  effect  the  transfer  of 
Bill  273.  chargeable poor persons  from  one institution  to 
another :  And  the  same was ordered  to  be read 
a  second  time  upon  Thursday next;  and to be 
printed. 

Mr. Ellis  Griffith,  supported  by  Mr.  Clement 
•Cruelty  to 
Edwards, Mr.  MacNeill,  Mr.  Crooks, and  Mr. 
Animals 
(Amendment)  Weir,  presented  a Bill  to  amend the Cruelty to 
Bill. 
Bill  274.  	 Animals Acts : And the same was ordered  to be 

read a second time upon Thursday the  29th day 
of this instant July ;  and to  be printed. 

Civil  Services and Revenue Departments  

Estimates,  1909-10. * 

Class  II. 

1.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £169,294  be Local 

granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  complete  the sum 
necessary  to defray the charge which  will  come 
in  course  of payment during the year ending on 
the 31st day  of  March 1910 for the Salaries and 
Expenses  of the  Local  Government Board. 

Class  IV. 

2.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £821,921  be Teachers' 
granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  complete  the  sum Pension Fund, 
necessary  to defray the'charge  which  will  come Ireland-
in course  of  payment during the year ending on 
the 31st day  of  March  1910  for  the  Expenses 
of  the  Commissioners  of  National  Education 
in  Ireland,  including  a  Grant  in  Aid  of  the 
Teachers' Pension Fund,  Ireland. 

The  First  Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time, was postponed. 

The  Second Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time, was agreed to. 

Ordered,  That  the  postponed  Resolution  be 
taken  into  further  consideration  upon Monday 
next. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 

the  Report from  the  Committee  of  Supply  or 
the 24th day  of June last 

'Iunel 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

The Order of the dav being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the "Committee  of  Supply  of ^0hrtfunel 
the 14th day  of June last; 

Business  of 
the  House 
•(Supply.) 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

put,  That  the Proceedings  on  the  Business  of 

Monday next. 

VOL.  164. 

M  M  4 

2 72 

ls£  July. 

J 9 0 9.  

[No.  87. 

appeared to him that the House was prepared to withholds his 
come to a decision without that Motion.

assent, and 
* 
gives a Reasons

Supply 
[3rd  June 
Report.] 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of
the 3rd day  of .Tune last; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

Supply 
[27th  April] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving

the  Report from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of
the 27th day  of April last; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

Supply. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply ; 

Resolved, That this House will,  upon Monday 

next, resolve itself'into, the said Committee. 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways and iVleans; 

Resolved, That  this  House will, upon Monday 

next,  resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Labour 
fsalarieiP&c ]  Committee  on  Labour  Exchanges  [Salaries, 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,

resolve itself into the said Committee, 

And the Question  being put; 

The House divided.  

The  Yeas  to the Right; 

The  Noes  to the Left. 

f,,  ,, 
p 
Tellers for the I  M j. 

..  [Sir  Alfred  Thomas,


A br  J a m 

I e a s  ' 

(Rhondda): 
[ 
Tellers for the | Mr.  Hudson, 

Noes, 

t Sir Ivor  Herbert:  


So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

And the  Main  Question being put: 

The House divided.  

The Yeas  to the  Right;  

The  Noes to the Left. 


Tellers for th  I  S ir  A l f r ed
lellerstortn ee  M r  >  W i U i a  m  Ahraham  


T h o m a s '

X e a s  '
 

I 
Tellers for the jMr.  Hudson, 

( Rhondda) : 

Noes, 

\ Sir Ivor  Herbert: 

137. 

91.


141. 
f 
1 
I 

89.

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The Bill was accordingly read  a  second' time, 

and committed. 

Public  Works 
Loans  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Works  Loans 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Superannua-
tion  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Superannuation  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Trade  Boards 
Bill. 

The Order of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking
into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  as 
amended in the  Standing Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

Cinemato-
graph Bill. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon the 21st  day  of  April  last,  That  the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

The  Order  of the day being  read,  for  taking Bishopric of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield Sheffield Bill. 
Bill,  as amended  in the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

The  Order of  the  day being  read, for taking Local 
into  consideration  the  Local Education  Autho-Education 
rities  (Medical  Treatment)  Bill  (not  amended ^Medical"* 
in  the  Standing  Committee)  ; 
Treatment) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con-Bl"' 

sideration to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the inter­

_ 
Second Reading  of the Intercommunion  Bill; 

~~ 

... 

. 

-

-

communion
Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Prohibition of 

Second Reading of the Prohibition of Vivisection Vivisection 
Bill; 

'B,1L 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

to-morrow. 

till to-morrow. 

Board of Trade  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade Bill,  as 
Bili-
amended  in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Taff  Vale 
Second  Reading  of  the  Taff  Yale  Railway
Railway 
(Rhymney 
(Rhymney  Railway, Vesting, &c.) Bill  [Lords]-,
Railway,

And a Motion  being  made, and  the Question

VestiDg,  &c.) 
Bill  [Lords.}  being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Sea Fisheries 

Second Reading of the Sea Fisheries Regulation Regulation 
(Scotland) Bill; 

g£ t l a n d) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  15th  day  of  this  instant 
July.  . 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Burial Places 

Second  Reading  of  the Burial places  (Exemp­
tion from Rates)  (Scotland)  Bill; 
|  Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  timeBl11, 
to-morrow. 

(Scotland) 

second time ; 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by leaving  out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day  three  months."—(Mr. 
Hudson.) 

!  The  Order  of  the  dav  being  read,  for  the Municipal 
Second Reading  of  the Municipal Corporations 
(Qualification  of  Clergymen) Bill  [Lords]  ;
  clergymen)
;  Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second time BiU tLords-'] 
to-morrow. 

o f

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 

word "  now "  stand part of the Question ; 

Sir  A Ifred  Thomas  rose  in  his  place  and 
Closure 
claimed,  but  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now
Mr. Speaker 
put ;  but  Mr.  Speaker  withheld  his-assent,  as  it 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Pawning
Second Reading of the Pawning Industrial  Tools Industrial 
Bill; 
Tools BUI. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 



No.  87.]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

lstr—2nd July. 

Bank Holidays  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Eil'­

Second Reading  of the Bank Holidays  Bill; 

Tellers for the] Mr. Munro Ferguson,

Yeas, 

(Sir  Walter Menzies-.

Ordered, That  the  Bill  he read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 

So it passed in the Negative. 

2 73 

36. 

6 7. 

1 
) 

}

Wild  Birds 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Wild  Birds  Protection 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Hours  of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the Hours  of Labour ( Sur­
facemen) Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Tuesday next. 

Resolved, That  it  is  expedient  that  a  Select  High  Court 

Committee  of  Five  Members  of  this House  be ^fn'^B 
appointed  to join with a Committee  of the Lords Division.) 
to consider the  state  of  Business  in  the King's 
Bench  Division  of  the High  Court, and  report 
thereon, and  whether  any increase  is  desirable 
in the number  of Judges  of  that Division ;  and 
to make such recommendations  as they see fit.— 
(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the Lords 
to acquaint them therewith :  And that the Clerk 
do carry the said Message. 

Dogs' 

Protection 

Bill. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Dogs' Protection  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Cheap  Trains 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Cheap Trains  Bill ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Resolved, That it  is  expedient  that  a  Select  Stage  Plays 
Committee  of  this  House  be  appointed  to join ( C e n sorahip.) 
with a Committee  of  the  Lords  to inquire  into 
the Censorship of Stage Plays  as constituted  by 
the Theatres  Act,  1843, and  into  the  operation 
of  the  Acts  of  Parliament  relating  to  the 
licensing  and  regulation  of  theatres  and  places 
of  public  entertainment,  and  to  report  any 
alterations  of  the  Law  or  practice  which  may 
appear desirable.—(Mr. Joseph  Pease.) 

Education 
(Scotland) 
Act,  1908 
(Application 
of  Education 
(Scotland) 
. 
Fund.) 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being 

proposed, That  an humble Address  be presented 
to His  Majesty, praying His Majesty to withhold 
His  assent  to  the  Scheme  of  allocation  of  the 
balance  of  the Education  (Scotland)  Fund  for 
1909-10, contained in a Minute of  the Committee 
of  Council  on Education  in Scotland, dated the 
3rd  day of June  1909, and  laid upon  the Table 
of this House  on the said  3rd day  of  June 1909 
—(Mr.  Munro  Ferguson)  : — And  a  Debate 
arising thereupon; 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 

after Twelve  of the clock  on Friday morning ; 

Ordered, That a Message  be sent to the Lords 
to acquaint them therewith : And that the Clerk 
do carry the said Message. 

And  it  being  after half-past Eleven  of  the  

clock  on Thursday  evening,  Mr. Speaker  

adjourned  the  House  without  Question  

put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order, it 

being then seven  minutes  before  One  of  

the  clock  on  Friday  morning,  till  this  

day. 


Friday,  2nd July  1909 : 

[ N o.  8 8 .] 

Mr.  Munro  Ferguson  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

Friday,  2nd July  1909. 

The  House met at Twelve  of the clock. 

And the Question  being  put,  That the Ques­

P R A Y E R S. 

tion  be now put; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for thef Mr.  Munro Ferguson,

Yeas, 

\ Sir  Walter Menzies:
Tellers for the [Mr.  Dundas  White,

Noes, 

(Captain  Waring:

  \ 
j 
"1 
J 

THE  House proceeded  to  take into considera- Cork, Bandon,  


tion the Amendments made by the Lords  to  ^ J  o u t  h 

the  Cork,  Bandon,  and  South  Coast  Railway Railway Bill.  

Bill;  and the  same were twice read,  and agreed 

to. 


89. 

21. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the Bill to 
the Lords ;  and acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath  agreed to  the Amendments  made  by their 
Lordships. 

  Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  declared  that  the 
Question not
decided in the  Question  was  not  decided  in  the  Affirmative, 
the Majorit'y  because it  was  not  supported  by  the  majority 
being less than prescribed  by  Standing  Order  No.  27. 

A  Motion  being  made,  That  the  Grreat Great Western 

Western Railway  (General Powers) Bill  be now 
read  the  third time ;

Powers) Bill. 

aa°27bed by 

And the Original  Question  being  again  pro­
posed, That  an humble Address  be  presented to 
His Majesty, praying  His  Majesty  to  withhold 
His  assent  to  the  Scheme  of  allocation  of  the 
balance  of  the  Education  (Scotland)  Fund  for 
1909-10,  contained  in  a  Minute  of  the  Com­
mittee  of  Council  on  Education  in  Scotland, 
dated the 3rd day  of  June 1909, and  laid  upon 
the Table  of this House  On the said  3rd  day of 
June 1909—(Mr.  Munro Ferguson)-, 
And the Question being put ; 
The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 

VOL.   164. 

The Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means, by  His 
Majesty's  Command, acquainted the House that 
His  Majesty, having  been  informed of  the pur­
port  of the Bill, gives His Consent, as far as His 
Majesty's interest  is  concerned, that  the  House 
may  do therein  as they shall think  fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and 

passed. 

Ordered,  That  the Clerk  do cai-ry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

The Board  of  Education Scheme  (Cheshunt Board of 

College)  Confirmation Bill [Lords]  was, accord­
ing  to Order, read the third time and passed.
N  N   + ­

c  eme 

 
 
 
274 

2nd July. 

1909.  Po.88. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
(Cheshunt 
Confirmation  ^e   L o r d s;   and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
Bill  [L o r d s .h a th   agreed  to  the  same,  without  Amendment. 

Local 
The  Local  Government  (Ireland)  Provisional 
Covemment  Orders  (No.  1)  Bill  [Lords]  was,  according  to 
Provisional  Order,  read  the  third  time  and  passed. 
Orders (No.  1)  Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
t he   L o r d s  .  a n (j   acquaint  them  that  this  House 
BUI  {Lords.J 
bath  agreed  to  the  same, without  Amendment. 

Local 

The  Local  Government  (Ireland)  Provisional 

a X T ) e D t  Orders  (No.  2)  Bill  [Lords]  was,  according  to 
Provisional 
Order,  read  the  third time  and  passed. 
Bme[Xo^]2'> 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same, without  Amendment. 

O 

* 

L» c a l 
ProvMonaf 
Orders  (No.  8) third  time  and  passed. 
Bill. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 
(No.  8)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  the 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and  desire their  concurrence* 

(1)  Transfer  on  sale; 
(2)  Stamp  on  marriage  settlement; 
(3)  Annual  Income Tax  under  Schedules 
.  A  and  D  ; 
( 4)   Estate  duties  on  one  succession— 

(a)  Unsettled  estate; 
( b)   Settled  estate; 

on  passing  of  the  property  upon  death  and 
legacy  or  succession  duties,  assuming  it  to  pass 
( b)   to 
in  one "sum  (a)  to  a  spouse  or  lineal 
a  stranger 
in  blood,  distinguishing  between 
(a)  unsettled  estate  ;  (b)  settled  estate  on  first 
passing;  and  (c)  settled  estate  on  second  and 
subsequent  passings  under  the  same  settlement, 
the 
assuming  such  investments  to  constitute 
whole  of  the  property  of  such  owners,  and  the 
income  derived  from  them  to  constitute  their 
total  income  from all  sources— 

(a)  On  the  31st  day  of  March  1909;  arid 
(b)  Under  the  Finance  Bill,  1909,  if  passed 
into law, adding  separately  each  new  charge 
imposed  thereby  in  respect  of  each  class  of 
property. 

Electric 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 

— ( M r.   Walter  Long.) 

Provisional 
Order  (No. 2)  Provisional  Order 
Bin  [Lords.]  amended  in  the  Committee. 

take  into  consideration  the  Electric  Lighting 
[Lords],  as 

(No.  2)  Bill 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Gas  Orders 
Confirmation 
(No.  2)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Gas  Orders  Con-
firmation  (No.  2)  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  in 
the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Marriages 
Provisional 
Order  Bill. 

into  consideration 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
take 
the  Marriages  Pro-
visional  Order  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Com-
mittee. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Local 
The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Local  Government 
Prov^raai* 
Orders  (No. 7)  Provisional  Orders  (No.  7)  Bill,  as  amended  in 
BilV 

the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Edinburgh 
Merchant 
Company 
Endowments 
Order 
Confirmation 
Bill  [Lords.l 
Public 
Petitions, 
Vide  Third 
Eeport. 

Finance  Bill 
(Charges on 
Property.) 

The  Edinburgh  Merchant  Company  Endow-
ments  Order  Confirmation  Bill 
[Lords]  was 
read  a  second  time,  and  ordered  to  be  taken 
into  consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Ordered,  That  there be  laid  before  this  House 
a  Return  showing  the  amount  of  the  public 
charges  falling  upon  the  respective  owners  of 
£100,  £1,000,  £10,000,  and  £100,000,  invested 
in— 

(a)  Consols  ; 
( b)   The  ordinary  shares  of  an  industrial  com-

pany  yielding  five  per  cent.; 

( c)   Freehold  agricultural  land  and  buildings 
(assuming  buildings  to  represent  thirty  per 
cent,  of  cost),  the  property  yielding  three 
per  cent.; 

(d)  Long  leaseholds  of  urban land, built  upon, 
including  "the 

four  per  cent.  ; 

yielding 
charges  as  upon— 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do 

issue  his  Derby  County 
Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make  CM£ Division) 
out  a  new  Writ  for  the  electing  of  a  Member  to 
serve  in  this  present  Parliament  for  the  County 
of  Derby  (Mid  Division),  in  the  room  of  Sir 
James  Alfred  Jacoby,  deceased,—(Mr.Herbert 
Lewis.) 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday  Remission of 
next,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  on  the fj7bHnM3ill 
Remission 
mitted)  Bill. 

of  Surcharges 

(Dublin) 

(recom-

The  House,  according  to  Order,  resolved  Labour 
itself  into  a  Committee  on  Labour  Exchanges  Exchanges 
[Salaries,  & C . ].  

[Salanes,  &c.] 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That  it 
is  expedient  to  authorise  the  payment,  out  of 
moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of  the  salaries 
and  remuneration  of  officers  and  servants  ap-
pointed  under  any  A ct   of  thie  present  Session 
to  provide 
for  the  establishment  of  Labour 
Exchanges,  and  for  other  purposes  incidental 
thereto,  and  of  any  expenses  incurred  by  the 
Board  of  Trade  in  pursuance  of  such  A c t .— 
(Mr.  Churchill.) 

Amendment  proposed,  at-the  end, to  add  the 
words  "  Provided  that  no  capital  expenditure 
shall  be  incurred  by  the  Board  except  where 
Government  or  leasehold  buildings are unobtain-
able  for  the  purpose  of  labour  exchanges,"— 
(Captain  Craig.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

added. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for the f Captain  Craig, 

V  22 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

\ Sir  Frederick  Banbury:  J 
\ 
J 

Tellersfor  the ( M r,   Herbert  Lewis, 

„„ 
' 
I Captain  Norton: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  at  the  end, 
to  add  the  words  "  not  exceeding  the  sum  of 
£150,000  in  any  one  year."—(Sir  Frederick 
Banbury.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

added:—Debate  arising; 

Mr.  Churchill  rose  in  his  place  arid  claimed  Closure 
to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now  p u t;   but  claimed,  but 
the  Chairman  withheld  his  assent,  as it  appeared  wlSoldshis 

No. 88.]  9  E D W.   Y I I. 
assent,  a n d^   to  him  that  the  Committee  were  prepared  to 
j e ci si o n  without  that  Motion  :— 
gives a  e 

2nd—5th  July. 

ft 
. c o me  
Debate  resumed. 

275 

Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  at  the  end, 
to  add  the  words  " n ot   exceeding  the  sum  of 
£200,000  in  any  one  year." —  (Sir  Frederick 
Banbury.) 

Question,  That  those  words  be  there  added, 

put,  and  negatived. 

Main  Question  put,  and  agreed  to. 

Resolved,  That  it  is  expedient  to  authorise  the 
payment, out of  moneys provided  by  Parliament, 
of  the  salaries  and  remuneration  of  officers  and 
servants  appointed  under  any A ct   of  the  present 
for  the  establishment  of 
Session  to  provide 
Labour  Exchanges,  and 
for  other  purposes 
incidental  thereto,  and  of  any  expenses  incurred 
by the Board  of  Trade  in  pursuance of  such  A c t. 

Resolution  to be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  come  to  a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

Public Works 
Loans  Bill. 

The  Public  Works  Loans  Bill  was,  according 
ti m e. 

^  Q l d e V}   r e ad   a  s e c o nd 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Monday 
next.—(Mr.  Whitley.) 

Superannua-
tion  Bill. 

The  Superannuation  Bill  was,  according  to 
Order,  read  a  second  time, and  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

Telegraph 
Bin. ltlatl° n^ 

The  Telegraph  (Arbitration)  Bill was, accord-
i ng   to  Order, read  a second  time,  and  committed 
to  a  Standing  Committee. 

Trade  Boards 
Bil1- 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  as 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con-

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Cinemato-
graph  Bill. 

Board of 
Trade  Bill. 

The  Order of  the  day  being read, for  resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  21st  day  of  A.pril  last,  That  the  Cine-
matograph  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time ; 

Ordered,  That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
as 

into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill, 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into 

con-

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply 
Bill; 

• 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Electric  Lighting  Acts 

Electric 
Actsting 
(Amendment)  second  time,  and  committed 
Bill  [Lords.]  Committee. 

(Amendment) 
BiH  [Lords']  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a 
to  a  Standing 

Adjournment. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  now 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis.) 

lourn.-

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con-
tinued  to  sit  till 
twenty-nine  minutes 
before  Three  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till 
Monday  next. 

VO L.   164. 

[NO.  89.] 

Monday, 5th July 1909. 
The  House  met  at  a quarter  of  an  hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

MR.   Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report   Private  Bills 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions for [Lords] 

Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the  following  ^ersnot 
Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords,  and  referred  on  previously 
the  First  Reading  thereof,  the  Standing  Orders  inquired  into 
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are 
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
v i z . :— 

West  Kent  Electric  Power  Bill 

[Lords]. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera-  Wallasey 
tion  the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to  the  ^ " i ^ r ov 
Wallasey  Tramways  and  Improvements  B i l l;   ments^Bm,76" 
and  the  same  were  twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  L o r d s;   and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

The  Bristol  University  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  Bristol 

the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments. 

r 

Umversity 
Bill  [Lords.\ 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  L o r d s;   and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  with  Amendments  ;  to 
which  this  House  doth desire  the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

A  Motion  being  made,  That  the  East  Sussex  Bast  Sussex 

L 

J 

County  Council  Bill  [Lords']  be  now  read  the  County 
,1  •  ,  /. 
_ 
third  time; 
[Lords.] 
Sir  Charles Dilke,  by His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted  the  House  that  His  Majesty,  having 
been  informed  of  the  purport  of  the  Bill,  gives 
His  Consent,  as  far  as  His  Majesty's  interest 
is  concerned,  that  the  House  may  do  therein  as 
they  shall  think  fit. 

Council  Bill 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and 

passed,  with  Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  L o r d s;   and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  with  Amendments  ;  to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  Liverpool  Corporation  Bill  [Lords]  was  Liverpool 
read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amend-  Corporation 
ments. 

B i U 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same, with  Amendments  ;  to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  Southport  and  Lytham Tramroad  (Aban-   Southport 
donment)  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  the  third  time  ^ ^ j ™ 11 
and  passed, with  Amendments. 

(Abandon-
Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to  j?^]® 1 11 

the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  with  Amendments  ;  to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  Wakefield  Corporation  Bill  [Lords]  was  Wakefield 

read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amend-
ments. 

' 

"  ^ 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them that  this  House 
N  N  2 

hath agreed to  the  same, with Amendments;  to 
which this House dbtfa'defiiiWi'the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

Great Western  The- House proceeded to  take  into considera-
Railway 
tion  the  Great  Western  Railway (Steam  Ves­
v S s  )  Bill  sels) Bill [Lords], as amended in the Committee. 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be read the third tune. 
[Lords.] 

liorih'iteft  The  Otder  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the Nrath Eastern Railway 
K 3  & 
Bill  [Lords'} ; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a) second time 

upoft Thursday ne£t. 

K 
Orderedj  That the said Paper dfcli&upon; the 


Table. 


Colonel  Seelyj  presented,,  by  IJis  Majesty's  West Africa 
Command,—Copy of Report of the Departmental  (Departmental 
Committee  on the West African Medical Staff.

0ommittee-> 

Cepjp  of  Second  Report  to> the:  respeotiv^jSouth Africa. 

Parliaments  of  the  Delegates  to  the.  South 
African  Convention,  1908-9  ;  together  with 
Copy  of  the  Draft  South  African Constitution 
Bill  asfinally passed by the Convention. 

Copy of Report No. 602 (Northern Territories Colonial 


of the Gold Coast, Annual  Report for 1908). 

^ 

Ordered* That the said Papers  do lie. upon the 


Table.. 


Gatesnead and  The  Order  Of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
District 
Second  Reading  of  the  Gateshead and District 
B m ™ 3 .]  Tramways Bill [Lords'] ; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 
tomorrow,  at  a quarter  of  an hour after Eight 
of the clock. 

South Eastern 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
and London,  Second  Reading  of  the  South  Eastern  and 
ancKDoveV 
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill 
Railways Bill  [Lords]  ; 
[ Lords.] 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 
to-morrow,  at  a  quarter  of  an hour after Eight 
of the clock. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Railway 
Command,—Copy  of  Return,  in  pursuance  of ?g0™ntsf 
Section  4  of  the  Regulation  of  Railways Act, Latraur.) 
1889,  of  Railway  Servants  of  certain  classes 
who were,  on one  or more  occasions  during  the 
month of  March  1909,  on duty  on the Railways 
of  the  United  Kingdom for  more  than  twelve 
hours  at  a  time ;  or  who,  after  being  on duty 
more than twelve hours, were allowed to resume 
work  with  less  than  nine  hours'  rest,  showing 
periods  of  duty after  deduction of time (if any) 
spent  on  travelling  home  after  relief,  and  of 
certain definite and  continuous  intervals  of  rest 
of  four  hours  or  upwards;  with  Appendices 
giving  additional  statements  and  explanations 
furnished  by the Railway  Companies. 

The  Electric  Lighting  Provisional  Order 
(No.  2) Bill  [ Lords]  was read the third time and 

Electric 
Lighting 
OrderCNo.^)  Passed, with  Amendments. 
BiU [Lords.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 
the Lords;  and acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed  to  the  same, with Amendments;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

Ordered, That the  said Paper  do  lie upon the 


Table. 


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant Renal 

to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— fc^ditional'3 
Copy  of  Licence  under  the  Penal  Servitude Licence.) 
Acts  granted to Norah MacKenzie, discharging 
her  from  Aylesbury  Prison  on  condition  that 
she enters a Home. 

Gas Orders 
Confirmation 
[Lordl.]  1 

The  Gas  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  2)  Bill 
[Lords]  was read the third time and passed, with 
Amendments. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 
the Lords;  and acquaint  them  that  this House 
hath agreed  to the same,  with Amendments ;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the University  of 
Act> 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Amendment  of  Statute  No.  45  of  the Statutes 
of  the  University  of  London  under  the  Uni­
versity  of  London Act,  1898. 

Marriages 
Provisional 
Order Bill. 

The  Marriages  Provisional  Order  Bill  was, 
according  to  Order,  read  the  third  time  and 

Ordered,  That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,—Return  to  an  Order,  National 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Local 
Government 
Ord^ (No. 7) *hird time and,passed. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 
(No. 7)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order, read  the 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do carry the Bill to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Edinburgh 
The  Order  of  the day being  read, for' taking 
into  consideration  the  Edinburgh  Merchant 
Merchant 
Endowments  Company  Endowments  Order  Confirmation 
Order 
Confirmation 

0 r d e  ^  <Ffe*f the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Bill; 

sideration to-morrow. 

read;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Several Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide Fourth 
Report. 
Trade Hepbrts  Secretary Sir Edward  Grey  presented, by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of Diplomatic and 
(Annual 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4280, 
Series.) 
4281, 4283,  and 4284. 

dated  the  1st  day  of  December  in  the  last 
Session  of  Parliament,  for  a  Return  relative 
to  National  Education 
in  Ireland,  showing 
(1)  number  of Roman  Catholic National Schools 
in Ireland, number of Roman  Catholic Teachers, 
iprincipal  and  assistants,  with  amount  of  their 
salaries,  and number  of Roman  Catholic  Child­
ren  on  the  rolls ;  (2)  number  of  Non-Catholic 
National  Schools  in  Ireland,  with  the  average 
daily  attendance,  number  of  Non -  Catholic 
Teachers,  principal  and  assistants,  with  the 
amount of their salaries ;  (3)  number  of Roman 
Catholic  National Schools with  an average daily 
attendance  of  from  ten  to  fifteen,  with  the 
salaries  and  emoluments  of  ,tjie  Teachers  ,of 
such  Schools;  (4)  number  of  Non- Catholic 
National  Schools  in Ireland with an average  at­
tendance  of from ten tofifteen, with the salaries 
and -emolnments of the Teachers of such Schools; 
(5)  in  how  many  Roman  * Catholic  National 
Schools  has  Rule  127  (b)  been, imposed, and in 

how many Non-Catholic Schools has Rule 127 (b) 

been  imposed;  (6)  how  many  Roman  Catholic  

National  Schools  have  been  amalgamated since 

1900,  and  how  many  Non-Catholic  National  






9 

V I I. 

Schools  during  the  same  time 5 (7)  how  many 
Roman Catholic  Ir^spe^tofS and how many Non­
Catholic.Inspectors  werein  the  employment  of 
the. National Board'in  the  year  1900;  (8)  how 
many Roman Catholic Inspectors and how many 
Non-Catholic  Inspectors  are  in  the  service  of 
the  Board  at  the  present  time;  and  (9)  how 
many  Roman  Catholic  assistant  or  temporary 
Inspectors and how many Non-Catholic assistant 
or  temporary  Inspectors  are  employed  by  the 
National  Board at present. 

f 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Return  do  lie  upon 

the Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Ilobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,  —  Copy  of  Thirty  -  ninth  Annual 
Report  of  the  Deputy  Master  and  Comptroller 
of the Mint,  1908. 

* 

Copies  of  Papers  bearing  on Land Taxes  and 
on Income Tax,  &c. in certain Foreign Countries, 
and  on the  working  of Taxation  of  Site  Values 
in  certain  Cities  of  the  United  States  and  in 
British Colonies ;  together with Extracts relative 
to  Land  Taxation  and  Land  Valuation  from 
Reports  of  Royal  Commissions  and Parliamen­
tary Committees. 

Mr.  Hobhouse also  presented,—Return  to an 
Order,  dated  the  27th  day  of  April last, for a 
Return relative to Imperial Revenue (Collection 
and Expenditure) (Great Britain and Ireland). 

Mr. Hobhouse  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Return, for the year ended 31st March  1909,  of 
the Army  and  Navy  Officers  permitted,  under 
Rule  2  of  the  Regulations  drawn  up  under 
Section  6  of  the  Superannuation  Act,  1887, to 
hold  Civil  Employment  of  profit  under  Public 
Departments. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 
Table ;  and that the Papers relative  to Imperial 
Revenue  (Collection  and  Expenditure)  (Great 
Britain  and  Ireland)  and  the  Superannuation 
Act,  1887,  be printed. 

A  Motion  being made, That  this House will, 
to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to 
consider  of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of 
moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of  additional 
allowances  and  gratuities  ,to  Civil  Servants  in 
certain  cases  on their retirement,  and  of allow­
ances  and  gratuities  to  their  legal  personal 
representatives  in  case  of  death,  in  pursuance 
of  any  Act  of  the  present  Session  to  amend 
the  Superannuation  Acts,  1834  to  1892—(Mr. 
Whitley); 

Mr.  Birrell,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted  the House that His Majesty, having 
been  informed  of  the  subject-matter  of  this 
Motion,  recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of 
the House. 

Motion, recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of,
the House. 

''  '"'"'" 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Clerk  at  the  Table  informed the House Chairman 
of the unavoidable absence  of  the  Chairman  of °f Ways and 
Ways  and  Means,  owing  to  indisposition, from Means-
this day's  Sitting. 

Sir  Francis  Lay land-Barratt  reported  from Local 

•the  Local  Legislation  Committee (Section  A)  ;  Committee 
That in the case of  the Lisburn Urban  District (Section A.) 
Council  Bill  [Lords]  they  had  examined  the Lisburn Urban 
allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the ^ncii  b ;  u 
Bill,  and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it  [Zords.]
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed by the Committee, and found the same, as 
amended, to be true ;  and had  gone through the 
Bill and made Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had been brought  from  the  Lords  by the Lords-
one of their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Harrogate Harrogate Gas 

Gas  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which  theBiU-
Lords desire the concurrence  of this House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An Pier and 

Act  to confirm a Provisional Order made by the 
Board  of  Trade  under  the  General  Pier  and 0rder (No. l) 
Harbour  Act,  1861,  relating  to  Tralee  and  Bill [Lords.]
Fenit;  to which the Lords desire the concurrence 
of this House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Saint Andrews 

Act  to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under the Water Order 
Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act, 
1899,  relating  to  Saint  Andrews  Water;  to 
which  the  Lords  desire the concurrence  of  this 
House. 

The  Pier  and  Harbour  Provisional  Order pjer and 


(No.  1) Bill  [Lords]  was read thefirst time. 

Harbour  ^ 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the Order  (No. l) 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private Bills ;  and Bill [Lords.]
Bill 275. 
be printed. 

The  Saint  Andrews  Water  Order  Confirma- Saint Andrews 

tion Bill  [Lords]  was  ordered  (under  Section  7 Water^w 
of the  Private  Legislation  Procedure (Scotland) Bin [Lords.]
Act,  1899)  to  be  taken  into  consideration to­
morrow. 

Sir  Henry  Kimber  reported  from  the  Com-  Private  Bills  


mittee  on Grohp  F  of  Private  Bills;  That, for (Gj,°aP  F0 

the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had  

adjourned  till  Wednesday next,  at half  an hour  

after Eleven  of the clock.  '  


Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table.  '  


Ordered, That the Conveyancing Bill  be read  Conveyancing 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

a second time upon Thursday next.

Bil1­

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Ordered, That the Settled Land  Bill  be  read Settled  Land 

a Second time upon Thursday next.

Bil1­

.  A  Motion  being made,  That this House will, 
to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Cbmniittee  to 
consider of  authorising  the  remission  of  a debt 
due  to  the  Public Wo^ks Loan Commissioners, 
in pursuance  of  any Act  of  the present Session 
to grant money for the purpose  of  certain Local 
Loans  out  of  the  Local  Loans  Fund,  and for 
other  purposes  relating  to  Local  Loans—(Mr. 
, Whitley); 

* 

Mr.  Birrell,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted t^e JSoj^e. that His  Majesty, having 
been  informed  .of  .the  subject-matter  of  this 

V O L . 1 6 4. 

Ordered, That the, Oaths Bill,  as  amended  in Oaths  Bill, 


the  Standing .Committee,  be  taken  into, further 

consideration to-morrow.  


The House, according to Order, resolved itself Finance Bill, 

into a Committee  on jfche  Finance Bill. 

(In the Committee.) 
Clause No.  2 (Definition  of increment value). 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 2,1.  20,  

at  the  end,  to  insert the words "  or that ^f the 

IS  N  3  


Mint. 

Taxation  of 
Laud, &c-

Imperial 
Revenue 
(Collection 
and  Expendi­
ture)  (Great 
Britain  and 
Ireland.) 

No. 223. 

Superannua­
tion  Act,  1887. 
No. 222. 

Super­
annuation 
[Allow­
ances  and 
Gratuities.] 

Public  Works 
Loans 
{Remission.] 



278 

5 th-—6 th July. 

1909. 

[No. 89. 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 

of  Debate.)  


Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

highest  subsequent  valuation  on  which  incre­
ment  duty has  been  paid, whichever value may 
be the greater."—(Mr. Ridsdale.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted :—Debate arising ; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer  rose in  his 
place  and  claimed  to move, That  the  Question 
be now put. 

Question put, That the Question be now put. 
The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
m n 
r* 
lellers tor the I 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis:  

, i  (Sir Alexander  Acland­

j
„ 
<  JJood, 
[Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

s? 

|  212. 

7 9. 

J 

Question  put  accordingly, That  those words 

be there inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the I Mr.  George  Faber, 
I Mr. Evelyn  Cecil : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

\ Mr. Herbert Lewis : 

j  77. 

1.248. 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in p.  2,  1. 20, 
at  the  end,  to  insert  the  words  "subject  to 
deduction  of  the  amount  of  any  decrement 
during  the  same  period  in  the  value  of  any 
other  land  in  the  same  ownership."—(Earl  of 
Ronaldshay.) 

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

inserted :—Debate  arising ; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place and claimed  to  move,  That  the Question 
be now put. 

Yeas, 
„ 

„ 

Question put,  That the Question  be now put. 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

J235. 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis: 

, '  fSir Alexander  Acland- 1 

Tellers for the!  R o  < 

Noes, 

[Viscount  Valentia: 

I  97_ 
J 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  those  words 

be there inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the fEarl of Ronaldshay, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  James Mason: 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 

Noes, 

}  103. 

j- 261. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  2,  1. 20, 
at the end,  to insert the words  "  after deducting 
the  difference,  if  any,  by  which  the  sum  to 
which the net income of  the  land, if invested at 
compound  interest  at  four  pounds per cent, per 
annum in each year since the original site value 
was  determined,  falls  short  of  the  sum  which 
would have been produced at compound interest 
by the investment  in  each of the same years of 
a sum equal to four pounds per cent, per annum 
on the amount of the original site value."—(Mr. 
James Hope.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted :—Debate arising ; 

Closure 
claimed, but 
Chairman 
withholds his 
assent. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of the Exchequer  rose  in his 
place  and  claimed  to  move, That the Question 
be  now  put;  but  the  Chairman  withheld  his 
assent, and declined then to put that  Question : 
-—Debate resumed. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move, That the Question 
be now put. 

Question put, That the Question  be now put. 
The Committee divided. 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

1 Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 

j  217. 

Tellers for thej 

A c l a n ^ 

74. 

Noes, 

[Viscount  Valentia :  J 

Question  put  accordingly, That  those  words 

be there inserted. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the /Mr.  James  Hope, 

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Remnant:  


Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

I. Mr. Herbert  Lewis: 

}  82. 

J-  2 6 4. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed to move, That the  Question, 
That  the  words  of  the  Clause  to  the  word 
"  value,"  in p. 2,1.  24,  stand part  of  the Clause, 
be now put. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the Question put 
words  of  the  Clause  to  the word  "  value,"  in (pursuant to­
p.  2,  1.  24,  stand  part  of  the  Clause,  be  now  of DebX.)0 
put. 

The  Committee divided. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 

Tellers for thefSir^!fc*an«fer Acland­

Noes 
. ' 

i
[Viscount  Valentia : 

/  235. 


86. 

Question put accordingly, That the  words  of 
the Clause  to  the  word  "  value,"  in p.  2,1.  24, 
stand part  of  the Clause. 

The  Committee divided.  

Tellers for the fMr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert  I,ewis: 

Tellers for thefS"4le™nder 

Acland-

Noes 
' 

) 
(Viscount  Valentia: 

' 

270. 

95. 

j 
(
J 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 2,  1. 24, 
to leave out  the  words "  value of  the considera­
tion  for  the  transfer,"  in  order  to  insert  the 
words  "capitalised  equivalent,  not  exceeding 
fifteen  years' purchase,  of  the rateable value of 
the land  as  determined  by the  Commissioners." 
— (Captain  Craig.) 

Question put,  That the words proposed  to  be 

left out stand part  of the Clause. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 


}  260. 

Noes, 

Tellers for the/ Captain  Craig,  

IMr.  Lonsdale : 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in 

9 9. 
2,1. 26, 
after the word "  grant,"  to insert the words "  by 
the owner."—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

} 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted: 

Tuesday, 6th July  1909 : 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 
Chairman do report  Progress, and ask leave to sit 
again.—(Mr.  Lyttelton.) 

The Committee divided. 

m  11 
Tellers for the I   ^  ^ 

r 

,,  fSir  Alexander Acland«  "1  


eas, 

(Viscount  Valentia  :  

Tellers  for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 


Original  Question put. 

The Committee divided. 

_  ,, 
Tellers for tne 
leas, 

H o o  ^ 

~ 

(Sir Alexander  Acland-


[Viscount  Valentia:  


Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis: 

103. 


238. 

98. 


1 9. 


-No. 89.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

5th—6th  July, 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 2,1.  28, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  the  value  of  the fee 
simple  of the land calculated  on the basis of."— 
(Sir Edward Carson.) 

Question proposed, That  the  words  proposed 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

{Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 

Tellers for thJS^lexander 

Acland-

2 79 

150. 

66. 

| 

J 

•Chairman 
•declines to 
propose 
the Question 
(Abuse of 
Bules.) 

to  be left out, to  the word "  calculated,  in p. 2, 
1. 28, stand part of the Clause : 

Mr.  Lambton moved, That  the  Chairman  do 
report Progress, and ask leave to sit again;  but 
the Chairman, being  of  opinion that the Motion 
was  an  abuse  of  the  Rules  of  the  House, 
declined  to  propose  the  Question thereupon  to 
the Committee. 

Original  Question  again  proposed:—Debate 

arising; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer rose in his 
place  and  claimed  to move,  That the Question 
be now put. 

•Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
-of  Debate.) 

Question put,  That the Question  be now put. 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

1-181 

Yeas, 

(Mr. Herbert Lewis \  J 
(Sir Alexander Acland- 1

TT 

, 
' 

Tellers for the J 
Noes 
' 

1  • 
[Viscount  Valentia : 

Original Question put accordingly. 

The Committee divided. 

Tellers for the [Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis  :  

Tellers for the/Mr.  Henry  Forster,  


77. 

190. 

77. 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Pike  Pease  : 
Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the Chairman  do report  Progress, and ask  leave 
to sit again—(Mr.  Cave) :—Debate  arising ; 

•Question put 
{pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
•of Debate.) 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move, That the Question 
be now put. 

Question put, That the Question be now put. 
The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the] Mr. Joseph Pease, 
(Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 
Tellers for the [ Viscount  Valentia, 
(Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

\ 
j

1 7 8. 

J 

76. 

Question put accordingly,  That the Chairman 

do report Progress, and ask leave  to sit again. 

Noes, 

I y j g c o u nt   Valentia: 

Question put  accordingly, That  the words  of  

the Clause to the word  "  to,"  in p. 3,  1. 4, stand  

part  of the Clause.  


The Committee divided. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 

j, 

r 
m  n 
Tellers for the 
•Noes, 

{Sir  Alexander Acland­

(Viscount  Valentia-.  


i 

)

6 5. 

Motion  made,  and Question, That  the Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit  

again—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer),—  

put, and agreed to. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the  

Deputy Chairman reported,  That the Committee 

had  made  Progress  in  the  Bill;  and  that  he  

was directed  to move,  That the  Committee may 

have leave  to sit again. 


Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day,  


again resolve itself into the said Committee.  


The Order of the day being read, for receiving Labour 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  on  Labour  Exchanges 
Exchanges  [Salaries, &c.]  5 

[Salaries, &c.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this  


day. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public Worts 

Committee  on the Public Works  Loans Bill  ;

L o a ns

  Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day,  


resolve itself  into the said Committee.  


The  Order  of  the  day being read, for taking Trade Boards 

into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  asBil1­
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the fMr.  Cave, 

Yeas, 

\ 
(Mr.  Watson Rutherford'.]

7 5. 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 
(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis: 

Noes, 

\
1 8 5. 
J 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  2,  1. 28, 
to  leave  out  from  the  second word "  land "  to 
the word  "  and,"  in  1. 30,  in order  to insert the 
words  "  as  ascertained  for  the purposes  of  the 
assessment  of  duty  under  this  Act." —  (Mr. 
Cave.) 

Question  put, That  the words proposed to  be 
left  out,  to  the  last  word  "  the,'  in p. 2,1.  29, 
stand part  of  the Clause. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming  cinemato­
the adjourned Debate  on the  Question proposed graph Bill, 
upon the 21st day  of  April  last, That the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till this day. 

The  Order  of the  day  being read, for taking Board  of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade Bill,  as Trade Bil1­
amended in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 
Second Reading  of the London Electric Supply Electric 

° 

Supply Bill. 

The Committee divided. 

Tellers for the /Mr.  Herbert  Lewis,  


Yeas, 

I Mr. Fuller : 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

160. 

this day. 

Tellers for the [Mr.  Cave, 

\  R7 

Noes, 

I Mr. Watson Rutherford-.} 

'' 
Mr.  Chancellor  of the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed to move,  That the Question, 
That the words of the Clause to the word  "  to," 
in p. 3,  1. 4,  stand  part  of  the  Clause,  be now 
put. 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question, That  the 
words  of  the  Clause  to  the word "  to,"  in p. 3, 
1. 4, stand part  of the Clause,  be now put. 

VOL.164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Milk and 
Second Reading  of the Milk and Dairies Bill;  Dairies Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of the day being  read,  for  taking London 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill  Elections BiU. 
(not amended  in the  Standing  Committee) ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

N  N  4 



 
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5th—6th  July.  


Customs  and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the day  being, reswj, foy,  the; 
-Second  Bailing  of  the  Customs  and Inland; 
Revenue Bill; 
! 
j»Ordered,  That thefeill be'r^ad  a  second time 
this day. 

Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies) 
Bill. 

The Order  of  the  day  being read, for taking 
into consideration  the Marine  Insurance  ((Gam­
bling Policies) Bill, as amended in the  Standing 
Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Secretary  of 
the  Board  of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day feeing read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Secretary  of the Board 
of Agriculture and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered,That  the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Established 
Church 
(Wales)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church 
i 
(Wales) Bill; 
Ordered, That the Bill  Be read  a  secondtime 

upon Monday next. 

^Ordered, That the Bill  Be reacTa second'time 

upon Monday next. 

.  3?he  , O r 4 er   of, t he  day being  r e a d,   for the 
Second1 Reading of the Lunacy (Ireland) Bill; 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

Lunacy 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

upon Monday next. 

Local 
Government 
(Audit  of 
Accounts) 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Qrdei?  of  the  day  beiflg  teak,  for  the 
Secofid  f Reading  of  the  Local  Government 
(Audit  of Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a Second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  Bill; 

County 
Councils 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 

Assistant 
Postmaster 
General  Bill. 

Second 
General Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Irish  Land 
Bill. 

Houses  of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 

upon Monday next. 

Committee  on the Irish Land Bill; 

Resolved, That  this  House will,  upon  Friday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which, 
upon  the  20th  day  of  April  last, was  proposed 
to  be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the Houses 
of Parliament Bill  be now read a second time ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Merchandise 

Second  Reading  of  the  Merchandise  Marks 
(Ireland)  Bill; 

Marks 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Fisheries 
Second Reading  of the Fisheries (Ireland)  Bill; (Ireland)  BilL 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till Monday next. 

Places of 
Worship 
_  „  ­
mentjDiu!36"

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
' : 

  (Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Election of
Municipal ™
Boroughs Bill  Municipal  Boroughs  B i l l; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  S e C 0 1 ld  Reading  of  the Election  of Aldermen in 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on Irish  Land  [Advances, &c.] ; 

Resolved,  That  this House will,  upon  Friday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  pf  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, 
&c.  Bill;. 

Ordered,,  That the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for  taking Supply 
into  consideration  the  First  of  the Resolutions [iHh'Jutie] 
which,  upon  the  1st  day  of  this  instant July, Kl!port  ^ 
(Postponed 
were  reported  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  Resolution.)  

of the 17th day  of June last, and which Resolu­
tion was then postponed; 


Ordered,' That  the  said  Resolution  be taken 

into consideration upon Thursday  next. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of £ 4 t ^ U I i el 
the 24th day  of June last; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be received  upon 

Thursday next. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  frbm  the  Committee of  Supply  of Luth J"11®! 
the 14th day  of June last; 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for" the 
Buildings  and 
Engineering  Second Reading  of the  Buildings and Engineer-
Works  Bill. 

ing Works  Bill; 
..... Qrdered, That the Bill be read  a  second time 
this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Check-
weighing  in  Second Reading of the Checkweighing in various 
various 
Industries  Bill. 

Industries Bill ; 
,<• A Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a; second  time  

upon Monday next. 

The Order of  the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of C3"1 June] 
the 3rd day of  June last; 

Keport' 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  o f ' S u p p l  y  of [27th AprilJ 
the 27th day  of  April last; 

Eeport-

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received upon 

Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Supply, 


Dublin  Police 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Committee  of Supply ; 
'  Resolved, That this  Hbusi£  will,  upon  W^edtifes-
day  ilexi,  resolve itself info thfc daid Cbfiimittee. 

 
 
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Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of Ways and Means ; 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Wednes­
day next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Bridgend
&?stEnsU9h
Chapel,  &c.)

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  T h i rd   heading  of  the Bridgend (Hope  English 

  Baptist Chapel, &c.) Charity  Bill; 

Charity Bill.

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the  third time 

upon Friday next. 

John 
Marshall's 
Charity Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
Third  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  Charity 
Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Remission of 
Committee  on  the  Remission  of  Surcharges ,s"r°1}?r?eJL1 
(Dublin) (recommitted)  Bill; 
(Dublm)  BllL 

Resolved,  That this  House  will, upon Thurs­
day  the ' 15th  day  of  this  instant July, resolve 
itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Vehicular 
Second Reading  of the Vehicular  Traffic (Regu- T™ffi«  . 
lation of Speed) Bill; 

° 

S S  " 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  28th  day of  this  instant 
July. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third  time The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Charitable 
  Trusts BU1­

Second Reading  of the Charitable Trusts Bill;

upon Friday next. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a seeond time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the upon  Thursday  the  22nd  day  of  this  instant  


Lichfield and
ConventionalThird  R e a d i n g   o f  t he   Lichfield  and  Longdon  July. 
Chapelfandna  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust Property Charity  Bill; 
Charity Bill. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  the third time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Bishoprics Bill 

Second Reading  of the Bishoprics Bill  [ Lords] ;  {.Loris.] 

upon Friday next. 

Ordered, That the Bill be  read a second  time 
upon Monday the 26th day  of this instant July. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being read,  for  the 
Third  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 

Dewsbury 
and  Batley 
Congregational  C o n g r e g a t i o n al  C h a p el   Charities  Bill; 
Charities Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read the third time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Territorial 
Second Reading  of  the Territorial  Army  Ballot Army Ba!lot 
Bill; 

B i ll 

• 

j-

- 

upon Friday next. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Wortley 
Chagefati°nal T h i rd   fading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational 
Charity Bill.

  Chapel Charity  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  the third time 

upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Necessitous 

Second  Reading  of  the  Necessitous  Mothers  Mothers 
(Assistance)  Bill; 

( A s k a n c e) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Under Sheriffs 
(County 
Boroughs) 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of the  day being read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs (County 
Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Authorities Authorities 
(Legal  Expenses)  Bill ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time Bnl­

upon Friday next. 

Temperance 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The Order  of the  day  being  read,  for taking 
into  consideration  the  Temperance  (Scotland) 
Bill,  as amended  in the Standing  Committee; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Law Agents 

Second Reading  of  the Law Agents (Scotland)  O^otiand) 
Act  Amendment Bill ; 

Amendment 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Friday  the  16th  day  of  this 
instant July. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time Bil1­

upon Monday next. 

Handloom 
Weaving Bill, 

The Order  of  the day being  read,  for  taking 
into consideration  the  Handloom  Weaving Bill, 
as amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Friday  the  16th  day  of  this 
instant July. 

Sale of 
Margarine 
BiU. 

The  Order of  the day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Sale  of  Margarine Bill, 
as amended in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Bishopric of 
Sheffield Bill, 

The Order  of  the day being read,  for  taking 
into consideration the Bishopric  of Sheffield Bill, 
as amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Local 
Education 
Authorities 
(Medical 
Treatment) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of the day  being read, for  taking 

into consideration  the  Local  Education Autho­
rities (Medical Treatment) Bill (not amended in 
the Standing  Committee); 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

YOL.   164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Open Spaces 

Second Reading  of the  Open Spaces (Scotland)  (Scotland) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Plumage 
Second Reading  of the Plumage (Prohibition  of (Prohibition 
Sale  or Exchange of) (No.  2)  Bill; 
o f) 

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time  (No. 2) Bill, 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  the  Theatres and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music  Music Halls 
Halls Bill; 

BiU. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon ^Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  ready for  the Pedlars Acts 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pedlars  Acts  Amend- Amendment 
ment Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the " Bill be read a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 

Second  Reading  of  the  Dogs'  Protection  Bill; 
o  o 

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Bill. 

 
 
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[No. 89. 

Ordered, That the Bill be read a  second  time 

this day. 

Workmen's 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Compensation  g e c o n (j  Reading  of the  Workmen's Compensa-

tion  Bill; 

STANDING  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution by Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Upon Monday the 9th day  of  August next. 

Name of Bill. 

Standing
Committee. 

Metropolitan 
Ambulances 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Superannuation Bill 

Second  Reading  of  the  Metropolitan  Ambu­
lances  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Thursday next. 

Telegraph (Arbitration) Bill  ­

Electric  Lighting  Acts
ment) Bill  [Lordsj. 

(Amend-

A. 

B. 

C. 

•Criminal 
Appeal  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Criminal  Appeal  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Friday next. 

Merchant 
Shipping
(Lighthouses)
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Merchant  Shipping 
(Lighthouses)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Thursday  the 5th day of August next. 

[No.  90.] 
Tuesday, 6th July  1909. 

The House met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875)
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875) Amendment (Water Rights) Bill;

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

T

HE  House proceeded  to take into considera-Ravenglass 
tion  the  Ravenglass  and  Eskdale  Railway and Eskdale 
Railway  Bill
[Lords.] 
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time.

Bill [Lords],  as amended in the Committee. 

this day. 

Municipal 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
SuSttion  Second Reading  of  the  Municipal Corporations 
of  Clergymen)  (Qualification  of Clergymen) Bill  [Lords]; 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second time 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Methwold and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Methwold and Feltwell Feltwell 
Drainage Bill [Lords]  ; 

[EZds*]  ^ 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Thursday next. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

The  Order  of,  the  day  being  read, for  the
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time

upon Thursday next. 

Bank Holidays  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Bil1, 

Second Reading  of the Bank Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the TafE Vale 
Committee on the Taff Yale  Railway  (Rhymney Railway
Railway,  Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords]  to  receive 
all  Petitions  to  be  heard  against  the  Bill  in  Vesting,'&c.) 
Committee  which  may  be  deposited  not  later Bil1 [Lords.]
than  Five  days  before the  first  Sitting  of  the
Committee, and to hear  the  Petitioners thereon 
if the Committee thinks fit.—(Mr. Keir Hardie.)

Wild  Birds 
Protection 
Bill. 

upon Wednesday next. 

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second timeOrdered,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the TafE Vale 
Committee  on  the  Taff  Vale  Railway  (Cardiff Railway
Railway,  Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords]  to  receive R^ay,
all  Petitions  to  be  heard  against  the  Bill  in  Vesting,'&c.)
Committee  which  may  be  deposited  not  laterBm [Lords.]
than  Five  days  before  the first Sitting  of the
Committee, and to hear the  Petitioners  thereon
Ordered, That the Bill be read a second  timeif the Committee thinks fit.—(Mr. Keir  Hardie.)

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the
Second Reading  of  the  Wild  Birds Protection
Bill; 

this day. 

Cheap  Trains 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the

Second Reading  of the Cheap Trains Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

The  House,  according to Order, proceeded to saint 
take  into  consideration  the  Saint  Andrews Andrews 
Water  Order Confirmation Bill  [Lords]. 

^atoOrder 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read the third time BiU  [Lords.] 

upon Thursday next. 

And it being after half-past  Eleven  of the 
clock  on  Monday  evening,  Mr. Speaker 
adjourned  the  House  without  Question 
put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order, it 
being  then  five  minutes  before  Four  of 
the  clock  on  Tuesday  morning,  till  this 
day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being read, for  taking Edinburgh 
into  consideration  the  Edinburgh  Merchant Merchant 
Company Endowments Order  Confirmation Bill Company
j  i 
r  T 
[Lords]; 

Endowments
0rder 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  taken 
o

i n tinto  con-Bil, ^Lords^ 
•Confirmation

sideration upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lune 
Second  Reading  of  the  Lune  Fisheries  Pro-Fisheries 
visional Order Bill; 
' 

Provisional 
Order  Bill. 

_ 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

­
No.  90.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

6th July. 	

2 83 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his 
Derby  County 
(High  Peak  Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make 
Division) 
out a new Writ  for the electing  of a Member  to 
Writ. 	
serve  in  this present Parliament for the County 
of  Derby  (High  Peak  Division),  in the  room 
of  Oswald  Partington,  Esquire,  who,  since  his 
Election for the said  county, hath  accepted  the 
Office of one  of the Commissioners for executing 
the  Office  of  Treasurer  of  the  Exchequer  of 
Great  Britain  and  Lord  High  Treasurer  of 
Ireland.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Eeport. 

Mines and 
Quarries. 

Shop Hours 
Act,  1904. 

Several Public Petitions were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  General  Report 
and  Statistics  for  the  year  1908.  Part  I., 
District  Statistics.  Statistics  of  the  Persons 
employed,  Output,  and Accidents  at  Mines  and 
Quarries  in  the  United  Kingdom,  arranged 
according to Inspection Districts. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur-
suant to the directions of  an  Act  of  Parliament, 
—Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
City  of  Norwich  under  the  Shop  Hours  Act, 
1904,  and  confirmed  by the  Secretary  of  State 
for  the  Home  Department, fixing the  hours  of 
closing for certain classes of Shops. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

The  Master  of  Elibank  presented,  by  His 
East  India 
(Accounts and  Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  explanatory 
19OT-1008'  Memorandum  of  the Under  Secretary  of  State 
for  India  on  the  Accounts  and  Estimates  for 
East India,  1909-10. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Trade  Beports 
(Annual 
benes.) 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command, — Copies of Diplomatic 
an(] Consular Reports, Annual  Series, Nos. 4282 
and 4285  to 4287. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Navy 
(Exceptions  Command,—Copy  of  List  of  exceptions  to  the 
to  King's 
King's  Regulations  as  to  Pay,  Non - effective 
Regulations.) 
Pay,  and  Allowances  sanctioned  by  the  Lords 
Commissioners  of  the  Admiralty,  with  the 
approval  of  the  Lords  Commissioners  of  the 
Treasury,  pursuant  to  the  Order  in  Council 
dated  19th  December  1881,  during  the  year 
1908-9. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Prevention  of 
Crime  Act, 
1908, 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to 
the directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Act  of  Adjournal  relative to the Prevention 
of Crime Act,  1908. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Police Super-
annuation 
(Scotland) 

(No.  2)  Bill.  upon Friday next. 


Ordered,  That  the  Police  Superannuation 
(Scotland)  (No.  2)  Bill  be  read  a second time 

Burial  Places 
(Exemption 
from  Bates) 
(Scotland) 
BiU. 

, Ordered, That  the  Burial Places (Exemption 
from  Rates)  (Scotland)  Bill  be read  a second 
time upon Thursday next. 

Finance  Bill, 

The  House,  according  to Order,  resolved itself 

into  a  Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

(In the Committee.) 

Clause  No. 2  (Definition  of increment value). 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,  1.  4, 
after the word "  to,"  to insert the words "  deduc­
tion of any costs and expenses of valuation,  or of 
sale  or  of  transfer,  incurred  by  the  owner  in 
connection with the land."—(Mr. James Mason.) 
Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr.  Samuel Roberts, 

\  iq4 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Watson Rutherford'.} 

Tellers for the [Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
(Mr.  Herbert Lewis: 

Noes, 

\ OQI  

j 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,  1. 4, 
after the word "  to,"  to insert the words " deduc­
tion of any sum  or sums paid for the redemption 
of land tax and."—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  3,  1.  4, 
to  leave out  from  the  word  "  to "  to  the word 
"  attributable,"  in  1.  6,  in  order  to  insert  the 
words "  the deduction  of  any part  of  the  value 
fairly."— (Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question,  That the words  proposed  to  be left 
out, to the word  "  if,"  in  p. 3, L 4, stand part of 
the Clause, put, and agreed to. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,  1. 4, 
after the word "  deduction,"  to insert  the words 
"  as shall equal any addition to the value caused 
by a  general  rise  in  prices estimated  by refer­
ence to an index number to befixed by the Board 
of  Trade, and such."—(Lord  Robert  Cecil.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted : 

And  it being a quarter  of  an hour after Eight 
of the clock,  and  there being  Private  Business 
set down by direction  of the Chairman  of Ways 
and Means under Standing Order No.  8, further 
proceeding was postponed without Question put. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the South Eastern 

Second  Reading  of  the  South  Eastern  andand L°ndon> 
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill  ^Dover 
[Lords'] ;	 

Railways BiU 

And a Motion being made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second time; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made to 
the  Question,  by leaving  out  the  word  "now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  three  months."—(Mr. 
Napier.) 

And  the  Question  being put,  That  the word 

"  now "  stand part  of the Question ; 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Colonel Warde\ 

Yeas, 

(Viscount  Castlereagh : 

Tellers for the / Mr.  Napier,
t Mr.  Hedges : 

Noes, 

/} 183. 

97. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And the Main Question being put; 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  now read  a second 
time:—The  Bill  was accordingly read a  second 
time, and committed. 

The  Gateshead  and  District  Tramways  Bill Gateshead and 

[Lords]  was, according  to Order,  read  a  second Diatrict 
time,  and  committed. 

Tramways 
Bill  [Lords,] 

V O L.   164. 

o  o  2 



6 th—7 th July. 	

1909. 

[No. 90. 

Finance Bill,

Postponed  proceeding  on  Amendment  pro­

posed  on consideration  of  Clause 2 ; 

Which Amendment was, in p. 3,1. 4, after the 
word "  deduction,"  to insert  the words  as shall 
equal  any  addition  to  the  value  caused  by  a 
general  rise  in  prices  estimated  by  reference 
to  an  index  number  to  be fixed by  the  Board 
of  Trade,  and  such" — (Lord  Robert  Cecil),— 
resumed. 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

Session  to  provide  for  the  establishment  of 
Labour  Exchanges,  and  for  other  purposes 
incidental thereto,  and  of any expenses incurred 
by the Board of Trade  in pursuance of such Act. 

The said Resolution, being read a second time, 

was agreed to. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public  Works 

Committee  on the Public  Works  Loans Bill ; 

Loans  Bill. 

Resolved, That  this  House  "will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

}  85. 

}277. 

The  Order  of  the day being read, for  taking Trade  Boards 

into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  as BiU, 
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Peel, 

Yeas, 

! Viscount Morpeth : 

Tellers for the] Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis \ 

An  Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,  1. 6, 
after  the  word  attributable,"  to  insert  the 
words  "  to  minerals  underneath  the  surface  of 
the land or."—(Mr,  Laurence  Hardy.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted: 

Wednesday,  1th July  1909 : 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the Chairman do report Progress,  and ask leave 
to sit again—(Mr.  Balfour)  Motion,  by leave, 
withdrawn. 

Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 
Another Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,  1. 6, 
to leave Out the words "  buildings  or structures," 
in order  to insert  the  word  "  anything."—(Mr. 
Bowles.) 

Question proposed, That the word "  buildings " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause: —  Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdraw®. 

Other Amendments made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,  1. 8, 
after 'the Word "  value,"  to  insert  the words "  or 
to  the  owner's  expenditure  on  any  adjoining 
property,  or property  in  the  neighbourhood."— 
(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted : 

To report Progress, and ask leave to sit again. 

Mr. Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That the  Committee had made Progress  in  the 
Bill;  and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That 
the Committee may have leave  to sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

sideration this day. 

The Order  of the day being read, for resuming Cinemato­
the adjourned Debate  on  the Question proposed graph  Bill. 
upon  the 21st day of April last, That  the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till this day. 

The  Order of the  day being read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as 
amended  in the Standing  Committee ; 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the London Electrie Supply 
Bill j 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bffl. 

Ordered, That the  Bill be read  a  second  time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Milk and Dairies  Bill; 

Milk  and 
Dairies  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order of  the  day being  read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill 
(not amended in the Standing  Committee) ; 

London 
Elections  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

The Order  of  the  day being read, for  taking 

into  consideration the Marine  Insurance  (Gam­
bling Policies) Bill,  as amended in the Standing 
Committee ; 

Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Buildings and Engineer­
ing Works Bill; 

Buildings and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Super­
annuation 
[Allow­
ances and 
Gratuities.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on  Superannuation  [Allowances and 
Gratuities]  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Public  Works 
Loans 
[Remission.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee on Public Works Loans [Remission] ; 
Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

labour 
Exchanges 
[Salaries,  &c.] 

Mr.  Joseph Pease reported from the Committee 

on Labour Exchanges  [Salaries,  &c.] a Resolu­
tion ; which was read,  as followeth : 

That it is expedient to authorise the payment, 
out  of  moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of the 
salaries  and  remuneration  of  officers  and  ser­
vants  appointed  under  any  Act  of  the present 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming 	Sale of 

Intoxicating 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which, 
Liquors on 
upon  the 2oth day of  June last, was proposed to Sunday  Bill. 
be made on consideration  of  the Sale  of  Intoxi­
cating Liquors  on  Sunday Bill,  as  amended  in 
the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till Tuesday next. 

 
No/90.]  9  EDW.  V I I. 
The  Order  of  the day being  read, for  taking 
Licensed 
(Eieomn 
into consideration  the  Licensed Premises (Elec-
Days) Closing  tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Bill. 

Standing  Committee; 
Ordered,  That  the

  Bill  be  taken  into  con-

Qih—lih  My. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 

Second Reading  of the Dogs'  Protection Bill;  Protection 

Bill, 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

sideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the public Health 

Coal Mines 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
consideration  the  Coal  Mines  (Check­
weig eis)  j  . weig]jerSj  JBiXl,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 

nier 1 Bin 

this day. 

Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act,  Of73)
(1875)  Amendment (Water Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time Bishts> Bil1* 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Wild Birds 
Second  Reading  of  the  Wild  Birds Protection Protection 
Bill; 

1  Bl11' 

; 

•Oaths Bill, 

The Order  of  the  day being read, for taking 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as  amended 
in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be taken  into further 

consideration upon Thursday next. 

Under Sheriffs  The Order  of the day  being  read,  for taking 
into  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs (County 
(County 
(Ireland) Bill.  Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
into consideration the Sale  of Margarine Bill, as 
amended  in the  Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for taking 
Bishopric of 
Sheffield Bill.  into consideration the Bishopric  of  Sheffield Bill, 

as amended in the Standing Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

Local 
Education 
Authorities 
(Medical 
Treatment) 
Bill. 


The  Order  of  the day being  read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  Local  Education  Autho-
rities (Medical Treatment) Bill  (not  amended in 
the  Standing Committee) ; 


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Thursday next. 

Vagrancy Bill.  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Vagrancy  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

And it being after  half-past  Eleven  of  the  

clock  on  Tuesday  evening,  Mr.  Deputy  

Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without  

Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  

Order, 
it  being  then  twenty  -  three  

minutes  before  Two  of  the  clock  on  

Wednesday morning, till this day. 


[No.  91.] 

Wednesday, 1th July 1909. 
The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three  of  the clock. 


P  r at

  p R   s . 

THE  House  proceeded  to  take  into  con- Frimley and 

sideration  the  Frimley  and  Farnborough 

District Water  Bill  [Lords],  as amended in the BiU [Zmfc.]61 
Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  he read the third time. 

The House proceeded  to  take  into considera- Prestatyn 

tion the Prestatyn Urban  District  Council Bill,  Orban  District 
as amended  in the  Committee. 

Conned Bill. 

Ordered^ That the Bill be read the third time. 

The  House  proceeded to take into  considera- South 

tion the South Staffordshire Water Bill [Lords], Staffordshire 
as amended  in the  Committee. 

[Lords.] 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time, 

upon Friday next. 

Several Public Petitions  were  presented, and Public 

Restraint of 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  the 
•Trades (Shops) gecorl(i  Reading  of  the  Restraint  of  Trades 
Bl11, 

(Shops)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

Foreign and 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Colonial Meat  Second  Reading  of  the  Foreign  and  Colonial 
Bm-

Meat  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Tuesday next. 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Vide Fourth 
Report. 
Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant  p0uing 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— Districts 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
County  of  Westmoreland,  dividing  the  Pallia- land.) 
mentary  Divisions  of  the  county  into  Polling 
Districts. 

" 

Copy  of  Order  made  by the  Council  of  the Polling 
County  of  London, dividing  the Parliamentary Districts  

LoTdon.f 
Borough  of  Fulham into Polling Districts. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers do lie upon the 


Table. 

° 

Irish National 
Schools 
•(Heating  and 
Cleansing) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second ^Reading  of  the  Irish  National  Schools 
(Heating and Cleansing)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the said Order be discharged. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be withdrawn. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Board  of 
Command,—Copy  of  Regulations for the Train- Education, 
ing of Teachers for Secondary  Schools  (in force 
from lst August  1909). 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon  the 

-Hours of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

Table. 

i 

The  Order .of .the  day  being  read,  for  the] 
The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His National 
Second  Reading  of  the Hours  of Labour (Sur-j 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  pf  Second  Report Galleries of 
j 
facemen) Bill  ; 
^ndAct' 
to  the  Secretary  for  Scotland  by the  Board  of 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time] 
Trustees for the National . Galleries of Scotland 
j 
o  O 3 

this day. 

•  .

VOL.   164. 

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286 	

7th July. 

1909. 

[No.  91. 

for the period  from  31st December  1907 to 31st 
March  1909. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do lie upon  the  	

Table. 	

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments Southport 

made  by	  this  House  to  the  Southport  and 
Lytham Tramroad (Abandonment) Bill  [Lords],
without any Amendment. 

and  Lytham 
Tramroad 
(Abandon-
ment)  Bill 
[Lords.]

The Lords concur with the  Commons  in their High  Court 

Public 
Petitions 
(Third 
.Report.) 	

Ordered, That  the  Post  Office (Lotteries and 	

Post  Office 
(Lotteries and	  Obscene Matter)  Bill  be  read a second time to-
Obscene 
Matter) Bill,  morrow. 

' 

Resolution,	  That  it  is  expedient  that  a  Joint 
Committee  of Lords and Commons  be appointed 
to consider  this  state  of  Business in the King's 

Bench Division  of  the  High  Court,  and report 

Mr.  Henry  Joseph  Wilson  reported  from  the  thereon,  and  whether  any increase  is  desirable  

Select  Committee  on  Public  Petitions;  That  in the number of Judges of that Division ;  and to 
they had examined the Petitions  presented upon  make  such  recommendations  as  they see fit, as 

the 24th, 25th, 26th, and 27th days  of  May last,  desired by this House. 

the  3rd,  4th,  7th,  8tb,  9th,  10th,  11th,  14th,  

15th,  16th,  17th,  18th,  21st,  22nd,  23rd,  24th,  
 Ordered, That  the  Rule  Committee  Bill,  as Rule 
25th,  28th,	  29th,  and  30th  days  of  June last,  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee,  be taken Committee 
and  the  1st  and  2nd  days of  this instant July,  into consideration upon Friday next. 
and had directed  him  to  make a Report thereof 

to the House. 


of  Justice 
(King's  Bench 
Division.) 


The  House,  according  to Order, resolved itself  Finance Bill, 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  into a Committee  on the Finance Bill. 

Table;  and  be printed. 

(In the Committee.)  


Sir  Francis  Lay land-Bar ratt  reported from  Clause No. 2 (Definition  of increment value).  

Local 
Legislation 

the  Local  Legislation  Committee (Section  A );  Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,1.  8, 
Committee 
(Section  A.)  That in  the case of  the London County Council  after the word "  value,"  to insert  the words "  or  

(General Powers)  Bill  they  had  agreed to the  to  the  owner's  expenditure  on  any  adjoining  

Loudon 
County 
property,  or  property  in  the  neighbourhood."—  

following Report:— 
Council 
(Mr.  Pretyman.)
(General 
Powers)  Bill.  the  House  of  the  27th  April  last,  the  Local  Question again proposed, That those words be 

Legislation  Committee  had  inserted  in  the Bill  there  inserted : — Amendment,  by  leave,  with-

the  additional  provision  referred  to  in  such  drawn. 

Resolution. 

That,  in  pursuance  of  the  Resolution  of 

[Title 	
amended.] 	

  as  


Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,  1. 8, 

Sir Francis Layland-Barratt  further  reported  after the word "  value,"  to insert the  words "  or 
from the  Committee;  That  they had  examined to the reduction  of the available area  of the land 
the allegations contained  in the Preamble  of the  by  reason  of  some  part  thereof  being  appro-
Bill, and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it  priated for streets  or passages,  or for open space 
of  any  kind,  and  the  expenditure  thereon."— 
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill
passed by the  Committee,  and  found  the, same, (Mr.  Watson Rutherford.) 

as amended,  to  be  true;  and  had gone through 
 Question proposed, That those words  be there 
the Bill and made  Amendments  thereunto; and inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 
had  amended  the  Title,  as  followeth :—A  Bill 
to  empower  the  London  County  Council  to 
construct  railway  sidings  in  the  County  of 
Surrey,  and  to  confer  other  powers upon  that 
Council;  to  make  provisions  with  respect  to 
sanitary matters ; to amend the London Building 
Acts;  to confer powers upon the Councils  of the 
Metropolitan  Borough  of  Southwark  and  the  

Royal  Borough  of  Kensington,  and  for  other  Question,  That those words be there inserted, 

purposes. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 3,1.  8, 
after  the  word  "  value,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  being  in  no  case  less  than  the  cost  of  con-
structing  such  buildings  or structures  as at  the 
date  of  valuation,  but  subject  to  an  allowance 
for depreciation (if  any)  in respect of their state 
of repair."—(Mr.  Clyde.)

put, and negatived. 


Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  Other Amendments made. 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 3,1.  11, 
after  the  word  "or,"  to  insert  the  words  " to 

Message  from  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  any."—(Mr.  Pretyman.)
the  Lords.  Message  had  been  brought  from the Lords  by 

one of their Clerks,  as followeth: 

inserted. 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

Great  North  of  The Lords have agreed to the Great North of 
Scotland  Railway  Order  Confirmation  Bill, 
Scotland 
Railway 
without any Amendment. 
Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 

Bungay  Water  The  Lords  have  agreed  to the Amendments 
Bill  [Lords.]  	 made  by this House  to the Bungay Water Bill 
rLords],  without any Amendment.  


The Committee divided. •

y 
*eas, 

T  11 rs for thef^""  Alexander  Acland-

<  Hood, 
[Viscount  Valentia:
Tellers for thef Mr. Joseph Pease, 

LMr. Herbert Lewis : 


Noes, 

100. 

305, 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 3,1.  12,  

The  Lords  have  agreed  to the Amendments  after the word "  land,"  to insert the words "  and  


Durham 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Durham  (County)  where the occasion is the death  of any person in 

(County) 
Electric  Power  Liectric  Power  Supply  Bill'  \_Lords],  without respect  of  any  sums  paid  or  payable  as  estate  

Supply  Bill 
duty,  settlement  duty, and  succession  duty."—  

[Lords.] 
(Mr.  Pretyman.)


any Amendment.  	

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the Amendments  


[Lords.]  made  by this House  to  the Malvern  Hills  Bill  Question proposed, That those words be there 


Malvern  Hills 
Bill 

[Lords],  without any Amendment. 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn.  


East  Sussex 

'  County 

Council  Bill 
[Lord*.] 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the Amendments  Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 3,  1. 12, 
made  by this House to  the  East Sussex County  to leave out  from  the word "  and "  to  the word 
Council Bill  [Lords],  without any Amendment.  "  also,"  in  1. 14.—(Mr.  Cave.)  


Liverpool 
Corporation  made  by  this  House  to  the  Liverpool  Corpora- case  o f"  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—Amend-

Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "  in  the  


tion  Bill  [Lords],  without  any  Amendment. 

ment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 



	
No.  91.]  9  E D W.   V I I. 

7 th—8 th July. 

The Committee divided.  

Tellers for thefCaptain  Craig,  

1 Mr.  Remnant: 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

1 Mr. Herbert Lewis : 

287 

i 


) 


82. 

187. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 3,  1. 16, 
after  the word  "  executed,"  to  insert  the words 
"  or expenditure made." —  (Lord  Willoughby de 
Eresby.) 

j 262. 

inserted. 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be there 

1 Viscount  Valentia: 

Tellers for  t h e f L o j J ^ ° M ^ 

The Committee divided. 

149. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 3,  1. 12, 
to leave out  from  the word ''  of "  to  the end  of 
the subsection, in order to insert the words "  land 
used for agricultural purposes ;  also in respect  of 
any  part  of  that  value  which  is  proved  to  be 
agricultural value."—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  "  agricultural 

land "  stand part  of the Clause. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for  the) Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Mr. Herbert 'Lewis ; 
'Sir Alexander Acland-

Tellers for the  Hood, 

Noes, 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  3.  1. 13, 
to leave out from  the word "  land "  to the word 
"  also,"  in  1. 14.—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question put, That  the  words proposed  to be 

left out stand part of the Clause. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the] ^  Alexander Acland­

Noes, 

[Viscount  Valentia: 

Another Amendment made. 

265. 

• 106. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  3,  1. 16, 
after  the  word  "  to,"  to  insert  the  words " any 
improvements  described  in  the  First  Schedule 
to  the  Agricultural  Holdings  Act,  1908, or."— 
(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted : 

Thursday,  8th July  1909 : 

Question put. 
The Committee divided. 
m „ 
Tellers for the j   ^  ^ 

r 

,,  [ Sir Alexander  Acland-

J-eas, 

[Viscount  Valentia-. 

Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Herbert L,ewis : 

104. 

218. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 3,1.  16, 
after  the  word "  to,"  to insert  the  words "  con­
tinuous  good  farming  resulting  in  increased 
fertility,  or  to intensive  or special  cultivation  of 
fruit  or other  crops,  or  to  improvements  and." 
—(Mr.  Everett.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words,  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Remnant, 

Yeas, 

[Mr.  Joynson-Hicks : 


Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

[Mr.  Herbert  Lewis : 

} 89. 

•204. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  3,  1. 16, 
after  the word  "  character,"  to insert  the  words 
"  including drainage."—(Mr.  Clancy.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr. Patrick  O'Brien, 

Yeas, 

IMr.  Clancy : 


Tellers for the j Mr. Joseph Pease, 

[Mr.  Herbert Lewis : 

Noes, 

j-108. 

|  182. 

Y e a s ' 

Noes, 

[Sir  William Bull  : 

1  80. 
I 

(Mr. Herbert Lewis  :  }>

204. 

Tellers for the J Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 3,  1. 16, 
after the word  "executed,"  to insert  the words 
"  after the thirtieth  day  of April  nineteen hun­
dred  and  nine." —  (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

Question proposed, That  those words  be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Other Amendments made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 3,1.  18, 

to leave out subsection (3).—(Captain  Craig.) 

Question  proposed, That  the word "  Where  " 

stand part  of the Clause: 

To report Progress, and ask leave to sit again. 

Mr. Deputy  Speaker resumed the Chair ;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in the 
Bill;  and  that  he  was  directed  to  move, That 
the Committee may have leave  to sit again. 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

The  Order  of  the day being  read,  for  the Supply, 

Committee of Supply ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this day, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of-the  day  being  read,  for  the Ways and 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Super-
Committee  on Superannuation  [ Allowances  and annuation 
Gratuities]; 

anceTInd 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, Gratuities,] 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public Works 

Committee  on  Public  Works  Loans  [Reinis- Loans 
sionj;

[Remission.] 
J 

-i

u

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public Works 

Committee on the Public Works  Loans Bill; 

Loans BiU-

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 3,1.  16, 
after the  word  "  character,"  to insert  the words 
"  including fencing."—(Captain  Craig.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  Trade Boards 

into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  as Bill, 
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

inserted. 

V O L.   164. 

sideration upon Monday next. 

o  o  4 

 
 
 
7 th—8th July. 

1 9 0 9.  

[No. 91. 

Cinemato-
graph  Bill. 

The Order  of the day being read, for resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on the Question proposed 
upon  the  21st day  of April last, That the Cine­
matograph Bill  be now read a second time ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Restraint  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Restraint  of  Trades Trades (Shops). 
(Shops) Bill ; 

BllL 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

this day. 

till Monday next. 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

The Order  of  the day being  read,  for taking 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade Bill, as 
amended  in the Standing  Committee ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours of 
Second  Reading  of  the Hours  of Labour (Sur- j^rf™em 
facemen) Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

this day. 

„ 

sideration this dayl 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for the 

Milk  and 
Dairies  Bill.  Second Reading of the Milk and Dairies Bill; 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

this day. 

Customs  and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the day being read, for the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and Inland 
Revefiue Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

this day. 

The Order of the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
Licensed 
Remises 
into consideration the Licensed Premises (Elec­
Days)'closing  *ion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Bill. 

Standing Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Coal Mines 
weighers)  Bill   *nto  consideration  the  Coal  Mines  (Check­

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for taking 

' weighers)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 

Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 
Second Reading  of the Dogs'  Protection Bill;  protection 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public Health-

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875) Amendment  (Water Rights) Bill; 

(Water™611 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second time Eisht8) BiIL 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Wild Birds 
Second  Reading  of  the  Wild  Birds Protection Protection 
Bill; 

B,U" 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

this day. 

And  it  being  after half-past Eleven  of  the  

clock  on Wednesday evening, Mr. Deputy 

Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without  

Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  

Order, it being then a quarter of  an hour 

before  Four  of  the  clock  on  Thursday  

morning, till this day. 


Under Sheriffs  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs  (County 
(County 
(Ireland)  Bill. Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Standing Committee ; 

[No.  92.] 

Thursday, 8th July  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon Friday next. 

The  House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 

before Three  of the clock. 


Sale of 
Margarine 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for taking 
into consideration the Sale  of Margarine Bill,  as 
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next. 

P R A T E R S. 

THE  Great  Western Railway (Steam Vessels) Great Western. 

Bill  [Lords']  was  read  the  third  time  and 

passed,  with  Amendments. 

Vessels) Bill 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to iL"rds-'\ 

Hours  of 
Labour 
(Bakehouses) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Heading of the Hours  of  Labour (Bake­
houses) Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Wednesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Public Health 
(?r6Visoftesl  Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  (Pro-
Orders) Bill, 

v i s ; o n a i  Orders)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 
upon  Thursday  the  15th  day  of  this  instant 
July. 

the Lords;  and  acquaint  them that this House 
hath agreed to  the  same, with Amendments; to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

The  HouSe proceeded  to  take into  considera- Lancashire 
tion  the  Lancashire  and  Yorkshire  and North  North11"* 
Eastern  Railways  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended in  Eastern 
the  C o m m i t t e e. 

Railways  Bill 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  North Eastern 
Second  Reading  of  the North Eastern Railway Eaiiway Bill 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Rights  bf 
Way Ml. 

The  Older  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

1 Second Reaiding  of the Rights  of  Way  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second time 
upon  Wednesday  the  21st  d4y  of  this  instant 
July. 

BankHolidi^s  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  fOr  the 
Bill. 

Second Reading  of the Bank Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second  time 
upon  Thursday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an hour 
after Eight  of the clock. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Methwoid and 

Second Reading  of  the  Methwoid and Feltwell Feltwell 
Drainage Bill  [Lords]  ; 

f ^ f™ 

Ordered, 'That the  Bill  be  read a second time 
ilpon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
after Eight  of the clock. 

No. 92.]

9  E D W.  Y I I. 

Sth July. 

2 89 

Saint 
Andrews 
Water  Order 
Confirmation 
BiH  [Lords.'] 

The Saint  Andrews  Water  Order  Confirma-

Sir  Henry  Kimber  reported from the  Com-  Private  Bills 
tion  Bill [Lords]  was, according  to  Order, read  mittee  on Group F  of Private Bills;  That, for  (Group  F.) 
the third time and passed. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords;  and acquaint them  that this House 
hath agreed to the same, without Amendment.  Ordered,  That the Report  do lie  upon the 

the convenience  of  parties, the Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Tuesday next,  at  half  an hour 
after Eleven  of the clock. 

Table. 

Edinburgh 
Merchant 
Company 
Endowments 
Order 
Confirmation 
Bill [Lords.] 

The  Order of  the day being read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Edinburgh  Merchant 
Company Endowments  Order Confirmation Bill 
[Lords] ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Thursday next,  at  a quarter  of 
an hour after Eight  of the clock. 

The Chairman  of Ways and  Means reported  Gas Orders 
from the Committee  on the  Gas  Orders  Con- S0®^'®® 
firmation  (No. 1) Bill  [Lords] ;  That they  had 
considered the Orders therein contained ;  that [Provisional 
the said  Orders  ought  to  be confirmed;  and ^l^med  -i 
that they had directed him  to report the Bill, 
with Amendments, to the House. 

Several Public Petitions were  presented,  and 

read;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Ordered,  That the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill,  as  amended  in the 

Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Yide  Fourth 
Report. 

Trade  Beports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Local 
Government 
Board 
(Ireland.) 

Finance  Bill 
(Charges on 
Property.) 

No.  225. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His Majesty's Command,—Copies  of Diplomatic 
and Consular Reports, .Annual  Series, Nos. 4288 
and 4289. 

The Chairman  of  Ways and Means reported  Stourbridge 
from  the  Committee  on the  Stourbridge  and ^fte^Md 
Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the District Water Board Bill  [Lords]  ;  That they  Bill  [Lords  ] 

Table. 

Mr. Birrell  presented, pursuant  to the direc­
tions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of Order 
made  by  the  Local  Government  Board  for 
Ireland, entitled the Labourers (Ireland)  Order, 
1909, 

had examined the  allegations  contained  in the 
Preamble of the Bill, and amended the same  so 
as  to make it consistent with the provisions  of 
the Bill as passed  by the Committee, and found 
the same,  as amended,  to  be true ;  and had gone 
through  the Bill and made Amendments there­
unto. 

Ordered,  That  the Report do lie upon the 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the Table  and  be printed. 

Table. 

The Chairman  of  Ways and Means reported  London 
Mr.  Hobhouse  presented, —  Return  to  an from  the  Committee  on  the  London  County bounty 

Order, dated the  2nd day  of this instant July, Council (Money) Bill;  That they had examined ^oney) BilL 
for Returns relative to the Finance Bill (Charges the allegations contained  in the Preamble of the 
on Property). 
Bill, and amended the same  so  as  to make  it 
Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the Bill as 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Poor Laws and
Relief of
Distress 
(Royal 
Commission.) 

  Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Majesty's Command,—Copy  of Appendix  to the 
Report  of  the  Royal Commission  on  the  Poor 
Laws  and  Relief  of  Distress.  Volume  III., 
Minutes  'of  Evidence  (Days  49-71),  with 
Appendix. 

Explosives. 

Board of 
Education, 

Copy  of  Thirty-third  Annual Report  of  His 
Majesty's  Inspectors  of  Explosives,  being  for 
the year 1908. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Bunciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of Report  of the Consultative 
Committee  on Attendance, compulsory  or other­
wise, at Continuation  Schools.  Vol.  I.,  Report 
and  Appendices  (adopted  by  the  Committee, 
7th  May  1909).  Vol.  II.,  Summaries  of  Evi­
dence. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Standing 
Committee tJ. 
Labour 
Exchanges 
Bill. 

Sir  David  Brynmor  Jones  reported  from 
Standing  Committee  C,  to whom the Labour 
Exchanges  Bill  was referred;  That <they  had 
gone through the Bill  and made Amendments 
thereunto. 

No. 226. 

No. 226. 

Bill 276. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That the Minutes  of the Proceedings 

of the  Standing  Committee  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended in  the 
Standing Committee, betaken into consideration 
upon Monday next;  and be printed. 

V OL.  164. 

passed  by the Committee., and found the same, 
as amended,  to  be true  •; and had gone  through 
the Bill and  made Amendments thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie upon the 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message from 

Message had been brought from the Lords  by  the  Lords, 
one  of their Clerks, as followeth : 

The Lords have  agreed  to the Amendments Bristol 
made  by this House  to  the Bristol University University 
Bill [Lords], without any Amendment. 

Bill [Lords.]

The Lords  have agreed  to the Amendments Wakefield 
made by this House  to the Wakefield Corpora-Corporation 
tion Bill [Lords], without any Amendment.  Bill [Lords.] 
The  Lords  have passed a Bill, intituled An Child  Murder 

Act  providing  that  a woman charged with the (Trial)  Bill 
[Lords.] 
murder  of  her infant Child may, under certain 
conditions,  be  convicted  of manslaughter ;  to 
which the Lords desire the concurrence  of this 
House. 

The Lords have passed a BiU, intituled An Dunoon Burgh 

Act to .authorise the Provost, Magistrates, and [Lords.]
Councillors  df the Burgh  of Dunoon  to make 
charges for admission to the castle gardens  and 
concerts  therein;  to make  provision  for pre­
serving  the  amenity  of  the  seashore,  and  for 
other purposes,;  to which the Lords desire the 
concurrence of this House. 

The.Lords concur with the Commons in -their stage Plays 

Resolution, That  it  is expedient  that  a Joint (Censorship.) 
Committee of Lords and Commons  be appointed 
to inquire into the Censorship  of Stage Plays  as 
constituted by the Theatres Act, 1843, and n'nto 
the operation of the Acts of Parliament relating 
to the  licensing  and regulation of theatres  and 
places  of  public  entertainment,  and  to report 

p  p 

 
290 

8 th July. 

1909. 

[No.  92. 

any  alterations  of  the  Law  or  practice  which 
may appear desirable,  as desired  by this House. 

Dunoon  Burgh
BiU  [Lords.]

  The  Dunoon  Burgh  Bill  [Lords]  was  read 
t h  e 

time. 

fir8t 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions for Private Bills. 

(in  respect  of  the  Superannuation  Bill)  :—Sir Superannua-, 
Robert Hobart, Sir Edward Tennant, Mr. Higham,tion  Biu-
Dr.  Pollard,  Mr.  Tomkinson, Mr.  Rogers,  Sir  ;
John  Jardine,  Sir  Clement  Hill,  Sir  Henry
Craik,  Mr.  Beckett,  Mr.  Haddock,  Mr.  John 
Murphy,  Mr.  Charles MacVeigh,  Mr. Snowden,
and Mr. Richardson. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Alliance and 
DubUn 
Consumers 
•Gas Bill 
[Lords.] 

Sir Luke  White reported from  the  Committee 
on the Alliance and Dublin  Consumers Gas Bill 
[ Lords]  ;  That  they had  examined  the  allega­
tions contained in the Preamble  of  the Bill, and 
amended  the  same  by striking out  so  much  as 
related to the Parishes  of  Delgany and  Kilcool, 
so  as  to  make  it  consistent  with  the  Bill  as 
passed  by the  Committee,  and  found the same, 
as amended, to be true :  and  had  gone  through 
the Bill and made Amendments thereunto. 

The House, according to Order, resolved itself Supply 

into the Committee  of Supply.

C13th allotted 
Day.] 

(In the Committee. ) 

Civil Services and Revenue Departments 
Estimates,  1909-10. 

Class  II. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Private  Bills 
(Group  G.) 

Sir Luke  White reported from  the  Committee 
on  Group  G  of  Private  Bills;  That,  for the 
convenience  of  parties, the  Committee  had  ad­
journed till Tuesday the 20th day  of this instant 
July,  at half  an hour after Eleven  of  the clock. 

£11,016  to complete the sum for  the  Salaries 
and  Expenses  of  the  Office  of  His  Majesty's 
Secretary for  Scotland  and  subordinate  Office, 
Expenses  under  the  Inebriates  Acts,  1879  to 
1900, and Expenses under  the  Private  Legisla­
tion  Procedure  (Scotland) Act,  1899, including 
a  Grant  in  Aid  of  the  Congested  Districts 
(Scotland) Fund. 

Ordered,  That the Report  do  lie  upon the 

Resolution  to be reported. 

Table. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  B. 
Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 
Bill. 

Standing 
Committee  B. 

Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 
BiU. 

Standing 
Committee  C. 

Electric 
Lighting Acts 
(Amendment) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Standing 
Committee  C. 

Electric 
Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment) 
BiU  [Lords.] 

Sir Joseph  Leese reported from the Committee 
of  Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the 
following Member  from  Standing  Committee B 
(in  respect  of  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration) 
Bill)  :—Mr.  Churchill-,  and  had  appointed  in 
substitution  (in  respect  of  the  said  Bill):  Mr. 
Buxton. 

Sir  Joseph  Leese  further  reported  from  the 
Committee;  That  they had  added  to  Standing 
Committee  B  the  following  Fifteen  Members 
(in  respect  of  the  Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 
Bill):—Sir  John  Barker,  Mr.  Sutherland, Mr. 
Marnham,  Mr.  Lyulph  Stanley,  Mr.  Alfred 
Mason,  Mr.  Crosfield,  Mr.  Charles  O'Donnell, 
Sir  Berkeley  Sheffield, Mr.  Thornton, Viscount 
Dalrymple,  Colonel Long,  Mr.  Francis  Meehan, 
Mr.  John  Phillips,  Mr.  Wardle,  and  Mr. John 
Ward. 

Sir  Joseph Leese  further  reported  from  the 
Committee;  That  they  had  discharged  the 
following  Members from Standing Committee C 
(in  respect  of  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment)  Bill  [Lords] ) :—Mr.  Burns and 
Mr.  Masterman ;  and had appointed  in  substitu­
tion (in respect  of the said Bill)  :  Mr.  Solicitor 
General and Mr.  Tennant. 

Sir  Joseph  Leese  further  reported  from  the 
Committee  ;  That  they  had  added  to Standing 
Committee  C  the  following  Fifteen  Members 
(in  respect  of  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment)  Bill  [Lords] ) : — Mr.  Falconer,
Mr.  Scott,  Mr.  Bennett,  Mr.  Brocklehurst,  Mr. 
Cleland,  Captain  Murray,  Mr.  Esslemont, Mr. 
Leverton  Harris,  Mr.  Cochrane,  Sir  Edward 
Sassoon,  Mr.  Samuel Roberts, Mr.  MacNeill,  Mr. 
Conor  0' Kelly,  Mr.  Parker,  and  Mr.  William 
Edwin  Harvey. 

Standing 
Committee A. 

Superannua­
tion  BiU. 

Sir  Joseph  Leese  further  reported  from  the 
Committee;  That  they  had  discharged  the 
following Members from Standing  Committee A 
(in  respect  of  the  Superannuation Bill) :—Mr. 
Attorney  General and  Mr. Secretary  Gladstone ; 
and  had  appointed  in substitution (in  respect of 
the  said  Bill) :  Mr. Hobhouse and Mr.  Solicitor 
General. 

Standing 
Committee  A. 

Sir  Joseph  Leese  further  reported  from  the 
Committee;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing 
Committee  A  the  following  Fifteen  Members 

Motion  made, and Question proposed,  That  a 
sum  not  exceeding  £10,535  be  granted  to His 
Majesty,  to  complete  the  sum
  to 
defray the charge which will  come  in  course of 
payment during the year ending  on the 31st day 
of March  1910  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses 
of the Local Government Board for Scotland : 

  necessary

Whereupon  Motion  made, and  Question  put, 
That  a  sum  not  exceeding £10,435  be granted 
for the said  Service.—(Mr.  Scott  Dickson.) 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the ("Mr.  Scott Dickson, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Cleland-. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Fuller,

Noes, 

(Mr.  Whitley.

5. 

46. 

f 
\ 
J 

Original  Question again proposed : 
And  it  being Eleven  of  the clock, the Chair­
man  left  the Chair  to  make  his Report  to  the 
House. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the Committee had come to a Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted the  House  that  the  Committee had 
made Progress  in the matter  to  them  referred ; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That the 
Committee may  have leave  to sit again. 

Resolved, That this House will,  upon Monday 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

The Order  of  the  day being read, for taking Supply 
into  consideration  the  First  of  the  Resolutions l17tl1 June]
which,  upon  the  1st  day of  this  instant  July, (postponed 
were reported from  the Committee  of  Supply  of Resolution.) 
the 17th day  of June last, and which Resolution 
was then postponed ; 

Ordered,  That  the  said Resolution  be  taken 

into consideration upon Monday next. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of [24th June3 
the 24th day of June last; 

Report-

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

 
 
No,  92.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

Supply 
[I4th  June] 
Beport. 

The Order  of  the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 14th day of June last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

Supply 
[3rd June] 
Beport. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply of 
the 3rd day of June last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday next. 

8th July. 

291 
Ordered,  That  the Bill  be taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  t he  Road Traffic 


Second Reading  of the Road Traffic Bill; 

Bill. 


Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Tuesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Theatres and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Theatres  and  Music  Music Halls 
Halls  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

Supply 
[27th  April] 
Report. 

The Order  of the day being read, for receiving 

upon Tuesday next. 

the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 27th day  of April last; 

Ordered,  That  the Report  be received  upon 

Monday next. 

The Order  of  the day being  read, for  the  Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial Mistrial 
Tools Bill; 

Tools Bill. 

° 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

upon Tuesday next. 

Committee  of "Ways and Means ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second time 

Resolved, That this House  will, upon Monday 

The Order  of  the  day  being  read, for the  Cheap  Trains 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Second Reading of the Cheap Trains Bill; 

BllL 

Super-
annuation 
[Allow-
ances  and 
Gratuities.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on Superannuation  [Allowances  and 
Gratuities] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

The' Order of  the  day  being  read, for the  Burial Places 
Second Reading  of  the Burial Places (Exemp- (Exemption 
S t w  ? 
tion from Rates) (Scotland) Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second time B1U­

Public Works 
Loans 
[Remission.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

to-morrow.. 

Committee  on  Public  Works  Loans  [Remis­
sion] ; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Public Works 
Loans Bill.  Committee  on the Public Works Loans  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Board  of Trade  The  Order of the  day  being  read, for_taking 
Bill. 

into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill, 
amended in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

Milk and 
Dairies Bill.  Second Reading  of the Milk and Dairies  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 

Revenue  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Oaths BilL 

The  Order  of the day being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration the Oaths Bill,  as amended in 
the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be taken  into further 

consideration upon Monday next. 

Local 
Education 
Authorities 
(Medical 

Treatment) 
Bill. 


The  Order  of  the day being read,  for taking 
into consideration  the  Local  Education Autho-
rities (Medical Treatment) Bill  (not amended in 
the Standing Committee) ; 


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration to-morrow. 

The Order  of  the day  being  read, for the  Post  Office 

Second  Reading  of the  Post Office (Lotteries 
and Obscene Matter) Bill; 

and 

Matter) Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Friday the 16th day  of this instant July. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for  the  Restraint of 
Second Reading  of  the  Restraint  of  Trades  £™des  (Shops) 
(Shops) Bill;

Blll> 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Tuesday next. 

The Order  of  the day being read,  for  the  Hours  of 
Second Reading  of  the Hours of Labour (Sur-Labour 
facemen) Bill; 

(burfacemen) 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read a second time  


upon Tuesday next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for the  Dogs' 
Second Reading  of the Dogs' Protection Bill;  Protection 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  the  Public Health 
(1875) 
^aetne^ment 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875) Amendment (Water Rights) Bill; 

Ordered,  That the Bill be read a second time B1shts) Bm­

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Wild  Birds 
Second Reading  of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection Protection 
Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

The House proceeded  to  take into considera- High Court 

tion that part of the Message from the Lords  of ?tfus?ii<j? 
the 7th day  of  this instant July concurring with piyisfon.) 
the Commons in their Resolution relating  to the 
appointment  of  a Joint Committee  on the High 
Court  of Justice (King's  Bench Division). 

Licensed 
Premises 
(Election 
Days) Closing  

Bill. 

The  Order  of the day being read, for taking 

into consideration  the Licensed Premises (Elec­
tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee;  


Ordered,  That  a Select  Committee  of Five 
Members be appointed  to join with a Committee 
to  be appointed  by the  Lords  to consider the 

VOL.  164. 

P  P  2 

 
292 

8th—9th July. 

1909. 

[No. sa 

state of Business  in the King's Bench Division  Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  His  Trade Reports 
of  the  High  Court, and report  thereon, and Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  and j^P1^1 
whether any increase  is desirable  in the number Consular Reports, Annual Series, No. 4290. 
of Judges of that Division? and to make  such  Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 
recommendations as they see  fit. 

Table. 

OrderedThat a Message  be sent  to the Lords 

to acquaint them therewith : And that the Clerk Ordered,  That the Conveyancing Bill  be read  Conveyancing-
do carry the said Message. 

Bl11, 

a second time upon Monday next.

Mr.  Akers-Itouglas,  Mr. Ellis,  Sir John Ken­

naway, Mr. Haldane, and  Sir  Thomas  Whittakev  Ordered,  That  the  Settled Land Bill be read Settled  Land 
were nominated Members of the Committee.  a second time upon Monday next. 

BlU-


Ordered,  That the Committee have power  to  


send for persons, papers, and records. 

Ordered,  That  the  Metropolitan  Ambulances  Metropolitan 
Ordered,  That Three be the quorum  of the Bill  be read a second time  upon Thursday next. Ambulances 

Committee.—(Mr. Fuller.) 

And then the House, having continued to 
sit till1 six minutes after Eleven  of the 
clock, adjourned till to-morrow. 

[No.  93.] 

Friday,  9th July  1909. 

The House met at Twelve  of the clock. 

P E A T E B S. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  far  the Irish Land 

Committee  on the Irish Land Bill; 

BiU-

A  Motion was made, and the  Question  being 
proposed,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
Committee  that  they have  power  to  divide the 
Bill  into  two  Bills,  one  to  consist  of  Parts I., 
II.,  IV.,  V.,  and VI.,  and the other to consist of 
Part  III.,  dealing  with  the  congested  districts 
—(Mr. Lonsdale) ; 

And  after  a  brief  speech  from  the  Member Mr. Speak® 

who  made the  Motion  and  from  the Member  puts  the 
in  charge  of  the  Bill  Mr.  Speaker,  without 
t0 
permitting  f urther  Debate,  put  the  Question order of the 
thereupon,  in  pursuance  of  the  Order  of  the House.) 
House of the 15th day  of June last. 

Bavenglass 
and  Eskdale 
Railway BiU 
[Lords.] 

Gas Orders 
Confirmation 
(No.   1)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

Dumfries 
District of 
Burghs  Writ. 

Harrogate  Gas  fll H E  House  proceeded  to  take  into  con-
Bill. 
JL  sideration  the  Amendments  made  by  the 
Lords to the Harrogate Gas  Bill;  and the same 
were twice read, and  agreed to. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry  the Bill to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint them  that  this House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made by their 
Lordships. 

The  Ravenglass  and  Eskdale  Railway  Bill 
[Lords']  was  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
with Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that this House 
hath  agreed  to  the same, with Amendments ;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

mittee. 

The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Lonsdale, 

Yeas, 

1 Mr. Hugh  Barrie : 

Tellers for the/Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

(Captain  Norton: 

So it passed in the Negative. 

}  40. 

] l 2 0. 

Then the House resolved  itself into the Com­

(In the Committee.) 
Clause  No.  1  (Alteration  of  amount  of  pur­
chase annuity and of rate  of  interest  payable to 
National  Debt  Commissioners, 3 Edw.  7,  c. 37). 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,  1.  3,  to  leave 

The  House, according to Order, proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Gas  Orders  Con­
firmation  (Mo. 1) Bill [Lords],  as amended in the  Question  proposed,  That  the  words proposed 
to  be  left out, to the word "  three,"  in p. 1,1.  4, 
Committee. 
stand part  of the Clause : 

out subsection (1).—(Mr.  John  Redmond.) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  the third time 

upon Monday next. 

And  it being Five  of  the clock, the  Chairman Question put 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his 
Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make 
out a  new  Writ  for  the  electing  of  a  Member 
to  serve  in  this  present  Parliament  for  the 
Dumfries  District  of  Burghs,  in  the  room  of 
• John William  Gulland, Esquire,  who,  since his 
Election  for  the  said  district  of  burghs,  hath 
accepted the Office of one of  the Commissioners 
for  executing  the  Office  of  Treasurer  of  the 
Exchequer  of  Great  Britain  and  Lord  High 
Treasurer  of Ireland.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease?) 

proceeded,  in  pursuance  of  the  Order  of  the 
House  of  the  15th  June,  to  put forthwith  the orderof the 
Question  on  the  Amendment  already  proposed House.) 
from the Chair. 
Question put. 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain Norton : 


\  1 8 4. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien, 

.  Q 
(Mr.  Haviland-Burke :  J  14y> 

Noes, 

The Chairman then  proceeded successively  to Question put 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 

Greenwich 
Observatory. 

Several  Public Petitions  were presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

put forthwith  the  Question  on  an  Amendment forthwith 
moved by the Government  of  which  notice  had ardeTof the 
been  given,  and  the  Question  necessary  to House.) 
dispose of Clause 1. 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  of the Astronomer 
Royal  to  the  Board  of  Visitors  of  the  Royal 
Observatory,  Greenwich,  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  1,1.  II, 
after the words "  thirty-six,"  to  insert the words 
"  and by the  Congested  Districts  Board  to  the 
Land  Commission  under  section  seventy-two." 
—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Table. 

Question  put,  That  the  Amendment  be made. 

 




No..  93.]

  9 EDW.  YII. 

July. 

The Committee divided*. 
Tellers for. the/Mr.  Joseph  Beam, 
[Captain Norton : 
Tellers foe thef Captain  Craig, 
NCHSB}.  bMr,  Hugh. Barrie : 

Yeas, 

The  Order  of  the  day being read,  for  the  Super-
Oommittee  on Superannuation  [ Allowances andjw^'on 
S*and> 
Gratuities]; 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday  Gratuities.] 

next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

J 177. 

}  143. 

Question  put, That the Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part  of the Bill. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the fMr. Joseph Pease, 
[Captain Norton: 

"j 
/
Tellers for the j Mr;  Patrick  O'Brien,  Y 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

t'Mr; Haviland-Burke:  j

Whereupon  the  Chairman left the Chair  to 

make his Report  to the  House. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for the  Public Works 
Committee  on Public Works Loans [Remission] ; p°an8.  .  , 

u 

** 

[_ Remission.] 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read,  for the  Public  Works 
L°ans Bin-

' 
Committee  on the Public Works Loans Bill; 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday 

next,, resolve itself into the e$id Committee, 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed the  Chair ;  and the 
Chairman  of Ways  and Means reported, That 
the Committee had made Progress in the Bill; 
and  that  he was  directed  to move,  That the 
Committee may have leave  to sit again. 

The Order  of  the day being read, for taking  Board:of 
into consideration the Board  of  Trade Bill,  as  Trade  Bill, 
amended  in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  taken into con-

Resolved, That this House will, upon  Monday sideration upon Monday next. 

next, again resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
A c .] 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself Second Reading:  of the Milk and Dairies Bill;  Dairies W, 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for  the  Milk  and 

into  a  Committee  on Irish  Land [Advances, 
&c.] 

(In the  Committee.)  


Ordered, That the Bill  be read a secQnd tips 

upon Monday next. 

Motion  made, and  Question proposed,  That  
The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for the  Customs  and 

for carrying  out the  provisions of  any Act of  Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  J11*""1 
the present Session  to amend the Law relating •o  
to  the  occupation  and  ownership  of  land  in  Revenue Bill; 
Ireland it is  expedient— 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

Revenue  Bill. 

t .  -ii

6

upon Monday  next. 

(a)  To authorise the creation  of a new capital 
stock for raising  any  money required  for 
the Irish Land Purchase Fund  (including 
the  Land  Purchase  Aid Fund),  and the 
temporary borrowing  of  any  such money 
by  bills  or bonds,  and  to charge  on the 
Consolidated Fund  in certain contingencies 
the payment  of the dividends  on the  new 
stock, and the payment of  the interest and 
the repayment of the principal of any such 
bills  or bonds; 

To remove the limit  on the total sums to 
a 3e paid  out  of the  Land  Purchase  Aid 

Fund ; 

(c)  To authorise the payment, out  of moneys 
provided  by Parliament,  in certain contin­
gencies,  of  deficiencies that may arise on 
the  Irish  Land  Purchase  Fund  and the 
Guarantee  Fund,  and  to  make provision 
for  payment,  out  of  moneys  provided 
by  Parliament,  on  the  exhaustion  of the 
Reserve Fund,  or the Ireland  Development 
Grant,  of  sums for  purposes  for  which 
provision would otherwise have been made 
out  of that fund  or grant; 

And  it  being  half  an  hour  after  Five  of 
the  clock,  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House without Question  put,  pursuant to 
Standing Order No. 3, till Monday next. 

Monday,  12th July  1909. 
The House met ajfc a quarter  of «n 

before Three  ©f the clock. 

P R A Y ER   S. 

MR.  Speaker laid upon the Table,—Report 

Private  Bills 
from one  of  the  Examiners  of Petitions 
T Lords] 
(Standing 
for  Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of the 
Orders  not 
following  Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords, and 
previously 
referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, the 
inquired  into 
complied 
Standing  Orders not previously  inquired into, 
with.) 
and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have  been 
complied with, viz.  :— 

Dunoon Burgh Bill [LordsJ. 

(d)  To authorise the payment, out  of moneys 
provided  by Parliament,  of  an annual sum  to  

the Congested Districts  Board for  Ireland  

and  to the Department  of  Agriculture  and  The Frimley and Farnborough District Water Frpuiey an<j 
Bill [Lords'] was read the third time and passed, Famborough 
Technical Instruction for Ireland ; 
with Amendments. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time. 

w «  l

(e)  To  authorise  the  National  Debt Com­

missioners  to make advances in certain cases Ordered, That the Clerk  do earry the Bill to C 
to the Land Commission. 

—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Question  put forthwith,  in  pursuance  of  the 
Order  of  the  House  of  the  15th  June,  and 
agreed to. 

Resolution  to  be reported. 

Mr. Speaker resumed  the  Chair;  and the 
Chairman of  Ways  and Means reported, That 
the Committee had come  to a Resolution. 

the Lords;  and acquaint them that this  House 
hath agreed  to the same, with Amendments;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence  of 
their Lordships. 

The  Lancashire  and  Yorkshire  and  North  Lancashire 
Eastern  Railways  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  the  a n  d  Yorkshire 
third time and passed, with Amendments. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to  ^ w a ys  Bill 

the Lords;  and acquaint them that this House
hath agreed  to the same, with Amendments;  to 

  or

  • 

Ordered,  That the Report  he received  upon which this House doth desire the concurrence  of 

Monday next. 
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their Lordships. 

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1909. 

[No. 94. 

Prestatyn 
A  Motion  being  made, That the Prestatyn 
Urban-District Urban  District  Council  Bill  be now read the 
Council  Bill.
, 

Inspectors  of  Lunatics  in  Ireland, for the year 
1908, with Appendices, 

. .. 
.
third time; 

Mr.  Secretary tialdane,  by His  Majesty's 
Command,  acquainted  the  House  that  His 
Majesty,  having been informed  of  the  purport 
of the Bill,  gives  His  Consent,  as far  as His 
Majesty's interest  is concerned, that the House 
may do therein as they shall think  fit. 

Table. 

Copy  of  Return  under  the  Evicted  Tenants Evicted 
(Ireland)  Act,  1907, giving particulars  of  cases tenants 
in which persons have been  reinstated  with  the Act) 1997. 
assistance  of  the  Estates  Commissioners during 
the  quarter ended 31st  March 1909. 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Then the  Bill  was read the third  time and 

The  Master  of  Elibank  presented,  by His East  India 
Ordered, That the Clerk do carry the Bill  to Majesty's Command,-Copy  of  Report on Sani- g ^ S  ^ 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

tary Measures  in India in 1907-8. 

The  South  Staffordshire Water Bill  [Lords]  ways in India for the year 1908. 

w as

read the third time and passed, with Amend­

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the 

(Railways.) 

Copy  of  Administration  Report  on  the  Rail-  East India 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the  Lords;  and acquaint them that this House Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Trade  Reports­
hath agreed  to the same, with Amendments ;  to His Majesty's  Command,—Copies of Diplomatic (Annual 
which this House doth desire the concurrence  of and Consular  Reports, Annual Series, Nos. 4292 Series-"> 
their Lordships. 

and 4293. 

Table. 

South
Staffordshire
n ater J5i J1 
[Lords.]  .

  ments. 

Great 
Yarmouth 
Cor  ati n
Bill  [Lords.]

The House  proceeded  to take  into considera­

Great  Yarmouth  Corporation  Bill 

[Lords],  as amended in the Committee. 

And  Amendments were made to the Bill. 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read the third time. 

Lisburn Urban
Coun^ii Bm
[Lords.]

  The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera­
t i on  t he  L i s b u rn   Urban  District  Council  Bill 
[Lords],  as amended in the Committee. 

And  an Amendment was made  to the Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His  Poor  Laws 
Relief  of 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Appendix  to the

Report  of  the Royal  Commission  on  the  Poor  ^ ^ j  3 

Laws and Relief  of Distress.  Vol.  Ilia.,  Index Commission^ 

to Minutes  of Evidence (Days  49  to 71). 


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  also  presented,  pur-  Polling 
suant  to  the directions  of  an Act  of Parliament, Districts 
—Copy  of  Order  made  by the  Council  of  the 
of 
County  of Essex,  altering a Polling  District  in 
the  Harwich  Parliamentary  Division  of  the 
county. 

London 
Connty 
Council 
(General 
Powers)  Bill. 

The House proceeded  to take into considera­
tion  the  London  County  Council  (General 
Powers) Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee. 

Ordered, That  Standing  Orders  223  and 243 
be suspended, and that  the Bill  be now  read the 
third time.—(The Deputy  Chairman.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,  acquainted  the  House  that  His 
Majesty,  having  been  informed  of  the  purport 
of  the  Bill,  gives  His  Consent,  as  far  as  His 
Majesty's interest  is  concerned,  that  the  House 
may  do therein  as they shall think  fit. 

Copies  of  Orders  made  by  the  Council  of Polling 
the  County  of  London,  dividing  the  North P^f s o f 
and Peckham  Divisions  of  the  Parliamentary  London.) 
Borough  of Camberwell into Polling Districts. 
Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Superannua­

Command,—Copy of Draft Regulations proposedtl0n BiU­
to  be  made  by the  Treasury  under  Section  3 
of  the  Superannuation  Bill  of  the  present 
Session. 

Then the Bill was read the  third  time and 

passed. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

Table. 

Ordered, That the said Paper do lie upon the 

Southend-
on-Sea
Bin [ijords.] 

the Lords,  and desire their concurrence. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,   by  His  Inebriates Acts 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the ^Departmental 
The House proceeded to take into considera­
Departmental  Committee  appointed  by  the Committee.) 
Secretary  for  Scotland  to  inquire  into  the 
tion  the  Southend - on - Sea  Corporation  Bill 
operation  in  Scotland  of  the  Law  relating  to 
[Lords],  as amended  in the Committee. 
Inebriates,  and their  detention  in  reformatories 
Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the third time. and retreats;  together with Minutes of  Evidence, 
The West Kent Electric Power Bill  [Lords]

Appendices, and Index. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 
The Gas Orders  Confirmation  (No.  1) Bill  Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Colonial 
[Lords] was, according to Order, read the third Command,— Copies  of Reports Nos. 603 (Ashan- Reports 
time and passed, with Amendments. 

tee, Annual Report for 1908) and 604 (Ceylon, (Annual-> 

West  Kent 
Electric  Power  w a  g  reac[ a second time, and committed. 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry the Bill to Annual Report for 1908). 

the Lords ;  and acquaint them that this House  Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 
hath agreed  to the same, with  Amendments;  to Table. 
which this House doth desire the concurrence  of 
their Lordships. 

Several Public Petitions were presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Board of 
Command,—Copies of Reports for the year 1908 Education, 
on  the  Royal  College  of  Art,  the  Yictoria 
and  Albert  Museum,  and  the  Bethnal  Green 
Museum. 

Mr.  Birrell presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Com-
mand,^—Copy  of  Fifty-eighth  Report  of  the 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Gas Orders 
Confirmation 
(No. 1) BUI 
[Lords.] 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 

Lunacy 
(Ireland.) 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
No.  §4i]

  9  E D W.  V I I. 

12th July. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee B, 
Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 
Bill. 

Standing 
-Committee  C. 

Electric 
Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Sir Joseph  Leese reported from the Committee  The  Committee  divided. 

of  Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the 
following Members from  Standing Committee B 
(added  in  respect  of  the  Telegraph  (Arbitra­
tion)  Bill):—Colonel  Long  and  Mr.  Wardle;
and  had  appointed  in  substitution  (in  respect 
of the said Bill) :  Sir  Arthur  Bignold  and Mr. 
Pointer. 

Tellers for them ej 
Vrtrta 
Yeas, 

! Sir Alexander  Acland-
,
„ 
S  Hood, 
[Viscount  Valentia:  


9 8. 

Tellers for the /Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

.  Noes, 
\ Captain  Norton : 
Original  Question  again  proposed :—Debate 

219. 

arising ; 

Sir  Joseph  Leese  further  reported  from  the 
Committee ;  That  they  had  discharged  the 
following Member from Standing  Committee  C 
(in  respect  of  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment)  Bill  [Lords] ) :—Mr.  Seaverns ;
and had appointed in substitution  (in  respect  of 
the said Bill) :  Mr. John Henderson. 

Ordered,  That the Reports  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to move, That  the  Question 
be now put. 

Question put, That the Question be now put.  Question put 
The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the I Mr. Joseph Pease,
t Captain Norton: 

ao^cfosure 
of Debate.) 

Yeas, 

J

\ 

Poor Belief 
(Transfer of 
Inmates)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Poor  Relief  (Transfer  of 
Inmates)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Wednesday next. 

Message from 
the  Lords. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
Message  had  been  brought  from the Lords by 
one  of their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

•G-as Orders 
•Confirmation 
(No. 2)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to the Amendments 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Gas  Orders  Con­
firmation  (No.  2)  Bill  [Lords],  without  any 
Amendment. 

Electric

The Lords  have  agreed  to  the Amendments 
m a c le  by  this  Hoiise  to  the  Electric  Lighting 
Provisional
Order (No. 2)  Provisional Order (No. 2)  Bill  [Lords],  without 
Bill  [Lords.]

  any Amendment. 

Ardrossan

Confirmation61'
BUI rLords.]

Bisca Urban 

District 

•Coancil BiU 
[Lards.] 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
 Act  to  confirm a  Provisional  Order  under the 
  Private  Legislation  Procedure (Scotland)  Act, 
1899, relating  to Ardrossan  Harbour ;  to which 
the Lords desire the  concurrence  of this House. 
The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Act  to transfer to and vest  in the Council  of the 
Urban District  of  Risca the undertaking  of  the 
Western  Valleys  (Monmouthshire)  Water  and 
Gas  Company;  to  sanction  and  confirm  the 
construction  of  existing  waterworks;  and  to 
authorise  the Council  to  supply water and gas, 
and  for  other  purposes ;  to  which  the  Lords 
desire the concurrence  of this House. 

.Ardrossan
Harbour  Order B i ll 
BilUi^l".]

Bill  277. 

The Ardrossan  Harbour  Order  Confirmation 
[Lords]  was  read  the  first  time  and 

  ordered  (under Section 9  of  the  Private  Legis­
lation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899)  to  be 
read  a  second  time  to-morrow;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Risca  Urban
District
•Council Bill
[Lords.]

Finance Bill.

The  Risca  Urban  District  Council  Bill 

[Lords]  was read thefirst time. 

T..., 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to the 

Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills. 

The  House, according to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on the Finance Bill. 

(In the  Committee.) 

Y I O7 
' 
  the  word 

Tellers for the F Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

I Lord Edmund Talbot :  J 

Question  put  accordingly,  That
"  Where "  stand part  of  the Clause. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease,

Yeas, 

Noes, 

(.Captain Norton:

l  ^^ 
j 
i 
\Mr.  Watson Rutherford:] 

.,. 

Tellers  for the/Mr.  James  Mason,

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 3,1.  18, 
after  the  word  "  Where,"  to  insert  the words 
"the  owner  of  any  land  so  desires  he  shall 
be  entitled  at  any time  to require the Commis­
sioners to apportion the original  site value upon 
any  part  or  parts  of  his  land,  and  to  grant a 
certificate  of  such  apportionment,  or where."— 
(Viscount Helmsley.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 3,  1. 19, 
after  the word  "  is,"  to  insert  the words  "  con­
sidered to be."—(Mr.  Fell.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Fell, 

Yeas, 

1 
[Mr.  Samuel  Roberts :  J 

103. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

ICaptain Norton: 
Another Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,1.  25, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  the  Commissioners 
think,"  in  order to insert the words  "  shall be." 
—(Mr.  Watson Rutherford.) 

1-228 
J 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "  the 

Commissioners "  stand  part  of  the  Clause :— 
Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 
Another Amendment made. 
Another Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 3,1.  25, 
after  the word "just,"  to insert the  words "  and 
in making such apportionment the Commissioners 
shall have regard to the prices realised upon any 
sale  or  lease  of  any  portion  of  the  land  upon 
which the original  site  value  wasfixed, where it 
is proved that the consideration  of  such  sale  or 
lease was less than the amountfixed in estimating 
the original site value."—(Sir Edward Carson.) 
Question proposed, That those  words be there 

Clause No. 2 (Definition of increment value). 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 3,1.  18, 

to leave out subsection (3).—(Captain  Craig.) 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  word 

"  Where "  stand part  of the Clause : 

•Chairman puts
Question
rlbus^of
Bules.)

  Sir  JEdward  Carson moved,  That  the Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again;  but the  Chairman, being  of  opinion that 
the  Motion  was  an  abuse  of  the  Rules  of  the 
House, put the Question thereupon forthwith. 

VOL.  164. 

Other Amendments made. 
Another Amendment  proposed, in p.  3,  1. 28, 
at the end, to insert  the  words  "  Provided  that 
if, upon subsequent sale or lease of the remaining 
part  of  such  land,  it  shall  appear  that  the site 
value  of  the  remaining  land  on  the occasion of 
such  sale  or  lease, together with  the  site value 
of  the part  upon  which  duty has  been  assessed 
as  hereinbefore  provided,  does  not  exceed  the 
original  site  value  of  such  land,  the  increment 
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[No. 94. 

value duty paid in respect  of  such part shall be; 
repaid  to  the  owner  by the  Commissioners."— 
(Mr;  Austen  Chamberlain.) 

Question proposed, That;fhose words be there 

inserted: 

Proposed  Amendment  amended  by inserting, 
in 1.1, after the word "  lease," the words "  within 
a period of ten years "—(Viscount  CastlereagK);
in  1. 5, after  the word  "  land,"  by inserting  the 
words "  or exceeds it by  an amount less than the 
increment value  of such land;"  and in  1. 6, after 
the  word "  part,"  by inserting  the  words  "  or a 
proportionate  amount  thereof."—  (Mr.  James 
Hope.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words,  as 

amended,  be there inserted : —Debate arising; 

The  Lord  Advocate  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to move,  That the Question be now put. 
Question put. That the Question  be now put. , 
The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain Norton : 

"5  ^ q I 
j" 

m  ii 
Tellers for the 

j. 

(Sir  Alexander Acland-

R o  < 

"1 

i 
101. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Lord  Robert  Cecil, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Watson  Rutherford : j 

\M2.

Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

1 ^32 

Noes, 

(Captain Norton: 
Another Amendment proposed,  in  p.  3,1.  29, 
to leave out subsection (4).—(Earl  Winter ton.) 

J 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out, to the  word  "  of,"  in 1. 30, stand 
part  of  the  Clause :—Amendment,  by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 3,  1. 29, 
after the word "  owner," to insert the words "  or 
lessee."—(Mr.  Watson Rutherford.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted : 

Tuesday, 13#A July  1909: 

Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 
Other Amendments made. 
Another Amendment proposed, in  p.  3,  1.  30, 

to  leave  out  the  words  "  or  any  of  his  pre­
decessors in title."—(Mr.  George Roberts.) 

Question put, That the words  proposed  to  be 

oeS' 

I Viscount  Valentia-. 

J 

left out stand part of  the Clause. 

Question  put  accordingly, That  those  words, 

as amended,  be there inserted. 

tThe Committee divided. 

Tellers for thef Mr. James Mason, 

1109 

Yeas, 

(Viscount  Castlereagh  :  J 

\  ggj 
j 

Tellers for the/ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

' 
(. Captain  Nortoii: 
Another Amendment  proposed,  in p.  3,1.  28, 
at the end, to insert  the  words  "  Provided  that 
in  making  such  apportionment  an  allowance 
shall  be  made for  any part  of  the  value of  the 
land  on  or in  respect  of  which  increment  value 
duty  is  payable  which  is  attributable  to  the 
severance  of  such  land  from  the  other  lands 
included  in  the  original  valuation  of  the  site 
value,  or  to  the severance  of  such  other lands 
from it."—(Mr.  James Hope.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the j Mr. James Hope, 

Yeas, 

(Sir  Henry  Kimber: 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

ICaptain Norton : 

1104. 

1 
f 

255. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 3,  1. 28, 
at  the  end,  to  insert  the  words  "  In  any case 
in  which  it  shall  appear,  as  the  result  of  the 
valuation  or  apportionment  under  this  section, 
that  no increment duty is due the Commissioners 
shall  personally  pay all  the  expenses  to  which 
the owner  of  the  land  has  been  put  in respect 
of  such valuation  or  reapportionment.''—(Lord 
Robert  Cecil.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

insserted  Debate arising ; 

Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer  rose in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the Question 
be now put. 

Question put,  That  the Question be now put. 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
„ 

\Captain  Norton: 
(Sir Alexander Acland-

,, 
Tellers for the l  H o o  ^ 

Noes, 

[Viscount  Valentia: 

} 

232. 

]
l-xi-l. 
j 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for thef Mr. Joseph Pease, 
(Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

}
(Mr.  Charles  Duncan  }

245. 

38. 

Tellers for the J Mr.  George Roberts, 

Noes, 

Another Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 3,1.  31, 
after the words last inserted, to insert the words 
"or  inherited."—(Mr.  Fell.) 

Question, That those words  be there inserted, 

put, and negatived. 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 3,  1. 31, 
to  leave  out  the  words "  within twenty years." 
—(Lord  Balcarres.) 

Question put, That, the  words  proposed  to  be 

left out stand part of the Clause. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

ICaptain  Norton: 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

(Lord  Balcarres: 

1  168. 
J 

I  69. 

Another  Amendment made. 
Another Amendment  proposed,  in p.  3,  1. 33, 
after the words last inserted,  to  insert the words 
"  or  in  case  the  land  was  on  such  purchase 
included in a larger area  so  purchased,  then the 
proportion  reasonably  fixed  by  the  Commis­
sioners  as applicable to the  land  in  question."— 
(Mr.  Watson Rutherford.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted :•—Amendment, by leave, "withdrawn. 

Another Amendment proposed,  in p.  3,  ].  33, 
after the words last inserted,  to insert  the words 
"  together  with  the  value  of  works  of  a  per­
manent  character  executed  since such purchase 
or acquisition."—(Mr.  Younger.) 

Question proposed,  That those words be there 

inserted :—-Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Other Amendments made. 
Motion  made,  and 'Question  proposed,  That 
the Chairman do report  Progress,  and ask leave 
sit  again—(Mr.  Lambton) :—Motion,  by leave, 
withdrawn. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause,  as 

amended, stand part  of the  Bill: 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  those  words 

To  report  Progress,  and ask  leave  to  sit  again. 

she there inserted. 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  debate.) 

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Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, That 
the Committee had made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee may have leave to sit again. 

The  Order  of  the day being read,  for  the  Lunacy 

Second Reading of the Lunacy (Ireland) Bill  ; 

(Ireland)  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Buildings  and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Buildings and Engineer­
ing  Works Bill ; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on  the  Question proposed 
upon the  21st  day  of April last, That  the Cine­
matograph  Bill  be now read a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday next. 

Labour 
Exchanges 
BiU. 

The Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  Labour  Exchanges Bill, 
as amended  in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 
Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government Government 
(Audit  of Accounts) (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time  (Ireland)  Bill, 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the county 
Second Reading  of  the  County Councils  Mort- Councils 
gages Bill; 

Mortgages 

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assistant 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster postmaster 
General  Bill; 
General Bill. 

,

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The Order  of the  day  being  read,  for  the Merchandise 


Second  Reading  of  the  Merchandise  Marks Marks  

(Ireland) Bill; 

(Ireland)  BilL 

Secretary  of 
the  Board  of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Board 
of Agriculture and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a  second time 

this day. 

Established 
Church 
(Wales)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church 
(Wales)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon  Monday next. 

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Fisheries 
Second Reading  of the Fisheries (Ireland)  Bill; (Ireland) BUL 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The Order  of  the day being  read,  for  the  London 
Second Reading of the London Electric Supplv Electric . 
SuPP1y  B U 1­
B f ll  •  

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which, 
upon  the  20th  day of  April  last, was proposed 
to  be made  to the Question, That the Houses of 
Parliament Bill  be now read a second time; 

The Order  of  the day being  read,  for  taking London 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill Elections Bill, 
(not amended in the Standing Committee) ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

sideration upon Monday next. 

till Monday next. 

Places  of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement) Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of the day being  read,  for taking Marine 
into  consideration  the Marine Insurance (Gam- Insurance 
bling Policies) Bill,  as amended in the Standing koHcies)liia 
Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon  Monday next. 

The Order  of  the  day  being read,  for the 
Election  of 
MunicipalSecond Reading of the Election of Aldermen  in 
Boroughs  BiU. Municipal Boroughs Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a Second time 

upon Monday next. 

The Order  of the  day  being  read,  for  taking Trade Boards 

into  consideration  the  Trade  Boards  Bill,  as Bill, 
amended in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con-

sideration upon Friday next. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of the  day being read,  for the 
Committee  on  the Housing,  Town  Planning, 
&c. Bin ; 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of j.8th JuIy] 
the 8th day  of this instant July ;

port'

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Resolved, That  this  House will, upon Friday 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Thursday next. 

Check- 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
weighing in  Second Reading of the Checkweighing in various 
Industries Bill. Industries  Bill ; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a Second time 

upon Monday  next. 

Dublin PoUce
BiU­

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Dublin Police  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

V O L  .  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  the  Supply. 

Committee of Supply; 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Wednes­
day next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The Order  of  the  day being read, for taking Supply 
into  consideration  the  First  of  the Resolutions f17th June] 
which,  upon  the  1st  day  of  this  instant  July, (postponed 
were reported from the  Committee  of  Supply  of Resolution.) 
the 17th day  of June last, and which Resolution 
was then postponed; 

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1909. 

[No.  94. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

into consideration upon Thursday next. 

this day. 

Supply 
[24th  June] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply of 
the 24th  day  of June last; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Bridgend 
Third  Reading  of  the Bridgend (Hope English (gope English 
Baptist Chapel, &c.) Charity  Bill; 

chapel, &c.) 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read the third time charity Bm­

upon Friday next. 

Supply 
[14th  June] 
Report, 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 14th day of June last; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the John 
Third  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  Charity Marshall's 
Chanty  Bill. 
j j j j j  . 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

Thursday next. 

upon Friday next. 

Supply 
[3rd  June] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 3rd day  of June last; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lichfield 
Third  Reading  of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon »nd Longdon 
Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property chapeteand^ 
Charity  B i l l; 
Trust Property 

Thursday next. 

Supply 
[27th  April] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 27th day  of April last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee of  Ways and Means ; 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Wednes­
day next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Irish  Land 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the Irish Land  Bill; 

Resolved, That this  House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the  said Committee. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the Report  from  the  Committee  on Irish Land 
[Advances,  &c.] ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

Super­
annuation 
[Allow­
ances  and 
Gratuities.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on  Superannuation [Allowances and 
Gratuities] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Public  Works 
Loans 

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The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  the 

Committee  on  Public  Works  Loans  [Remis­
sion] ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Public  Works 
Loans  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the Public  Works  Loans  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill be read  the third  time CbaTlt^BlU­

upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dewsbury 
Third  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batleyand Batley 
Congregational  Chapel Charities Bill; 

^ e f a t l 0 n a  l 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  read the third time  Charities  Bill, 

upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Wortley 
Third  Reading  of  the  Wortley Congregational  Congregational 
Chapel Charity Bill;  _ 

c S y B i l l. 

_ 

_ 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

upon Friday next. 

The  Order  of  the day  being read, for taking Bishopric  of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield Sheffield Bill. 
Bill, as amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read,  for  taking Oaths Bill, 

into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as amended in 
the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  taken into further 

consideration upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for taking Rule 
into consideration  the  Rule  Committee  Bill,  as Committee 
amended in the Standing Committee; 

1 ' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Friday next. 

The  Order of the day  being read, for  taking Under Sheriffs 

into  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs  (County (County 
Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the fSd^Biii. 
Standing Committee; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

sideration upon Thursday next. 

resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade Bill, as 
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking Sale  of 
into  consideration  the  Sale  of  Margarine Bill, Margarine 
as amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

1 ' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

Milk  and 
Dairies  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Milk and Dairies  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Education 
Second  Reading  of  the  Education (Conditions  (Conditionsof 
of  Grant)  B i l l; 

Grant) Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

this day. 

upon Monday the 26th day  of this instant July. 

Customs and
Inland
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Territorial 
Second  Reading  of  the Territorial Army  Ballot Army Ballot 
Bill;

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upon Monday next. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time The Ardrossan Harbour  Order Confirmation  Ardrossan 

Bill - [Lords]  was, according  to Order,  read a  Harbour  Order 
i 
second time, and ordered  to be taken into con- gjy [Lwds.~\ 

Confirmation 

,  i 

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j 

j 

j 

, 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  the sideration upon Thursday next. 

Second Beading of the Cheap Trains Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lune Fisheries 
Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second time Second  Reading  of  the  Lune  Fisheries  Pro- Provisional  ­

upon Thursday next. 

visional Order Bill  ; 

0rderBlU­

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Tuesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875) Amendment  (Water Rights)  Bill; 

Cheap  Trains 
BiU. 

Public Health
Act (1875)
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights)  BiU. 

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Several  Public  Petitions were presented, and Public 

this day. 

vid^Fourth 
Report. 

Conveyancing
Bm-

Settled  Land 
Bill. 

Local 
Authorities 
(Legal 
Expenses) 
Bill. 

Criminal 
Appeal  BiU. 

Protection 
BiU. 

Wild  Birds 
Protection 
BiU. 

  The  Order  of  the day  being  read,  for the 

Second Reading  of the Conveyancing Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second time 

this day. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Marriages, 
Command,—Copy  of Forty-fifth detailed Annual  Births, and 
Report  of the Registrar General of Marriages, ^^nd) 
Births, and Deaths  in Ireland,  1908. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon  the 

The Order  of  the  day being  read, for  the 

Second Reading of the Settled Land Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

Table. 

this day. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant shop Hours 

to  the  directions  of  an  Act
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
Borough  of Portsmouth under  the  Shop Hours • 

  of  Parliament,— Act, 1904. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read,  for the Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by the  Secretary  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Authorities State  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
(Legal Expenses) Bill; 

hours  of closing for certain classes  of  Shops. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 
Table. 

upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  the  Ordered,  That  there  be laid before this House Exports and 

Second Reading of the Criminal Appeal Bill;  a Return showing for the year 1908 the value of J^Pp1^ 

upon Thursday next. 

Ordered, That the Bill be read a second  time 

our Exports  to and Consignments  from  France, Kingdom.) 
the  United  States,  Belgium,  and  Germany, 
respectively,  distinguishing between food, drink 
and  tobacco,  raw  materials,  and  manufactures 
The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  the (in continuation of Parliamentary Paper, No. 185 

Second Reading of the Dogs' Protection Bill;  of  Session 1908).—(Mr.  George Greenwood.) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second  time 

this day. 

Mr.  Eugene  Wason  reported  from  Standing standing 
Committee B,  to whom the Telegraph  (Arbitra- Committee B. 
The Order  of  the day  being  read, for the tion)  Bill  was  referred ;  That  they  had  gone  ^ S t i o n  ) 

Second Reading  of  the Wild Birds Protection through the Bill, and had directed him to report Bill, 
Bill; 

the same without Amendment  to the House. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

jjo. 227. 

this day. 

Table ;  and be printed. 

And  it being after half-past Eleven  of the 
clock  on Monday evening, Mr.  Speaker 
adjourned the  House  without  Question 
put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order, 
it being  then  seventeen minutes  before 
Three  of the clock  on Tuesday morning, 
till this day. 

Ordered, That the Minutes of the Proceedings  No. 227. 

of the Standing Committee  be printed. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  (not amended  in  the 
Standing Committee) betaken into consideration 
upon Friday next. 

The Right  Honourable Herbert  Louis  Samuel,  New  Member 

Member for the County  of York  (North Riding) sworn. 
(Cleveland  Division), was sworn. 

[No,  95.] 

Tuesday,  13 th July  1909. 

Ordered,  That a Message  be sent to the Lords south  Eastern 
to  request  that  their  Lordships will  be pleased and London, 
to  give  leave  to  the  Lord  Harris  to  attend ^  Do™e'r 
to  be  examined  as  a  Witness  before  the  Com-  Railways Bill • 
mittee  on  Group  5  of  Railway  Bills.— (Mr.  [.Lords,1 

London 
County 
Council
(Money)  Bill.

T

The House met  at a quarter  of  an hour  Soames.) 

before Three  of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S  . 
HE  House proceeded  to take into considera-amended  in  the Standing Committee,  was read,BiU' 

The Order for taking into consideration, upon Sale  of 
Monday  next,  the  Sale  of  Margarine  Bill,  as Margarine 

tion the London County Council (Money) and discharged. 

. 
  Bui, as amended  in the Committee. 

Ordered, That  Standing  Orders  223 and 243 
be  suspended,  and  that  the  Bill  be  now  read 
the  third  time.—(The  Chairman of  Ways  and 
Means.) 

The Bill was accordingly read  the third  time 

and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration upon Monday the  2nd  day  of  August 
next. 

Mr* Ellis reported from the Select Committee  standing 

on  Standing  Orders  a  Resolution;  which  was 0rders­
read,  as followeth: 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

V O L.   164. 

That in the case of the Torquay and Paignton 
Tramways  Bill  [Lords'],  Petition for additional 
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provision,  the  Standing  Orders  ought  to  be 
dispensed  with;  that  the  parties  be  permitted 
to  insert  the  additional  provision  if  the  Com­
mittee  on the Bill think  fit. 

The said Resolution, being read a second time, 

was agreed to. 

Municipal 
Corporations 
(Qualification 
of  Clergymen) read a second time upon Thursday next. 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Municipal  Corporations 
(Qualification  of  Clergymen)  Bill  [Lords]  be 

Message from  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
the  Lords.  Message had  been  brought  from  the  Lords by 

one of their Clerks,  as followeth : 

Ammanford 
Gas Bill., 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Ammanford 
Gas  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which  the 
Lords desire the concurrence  of this House. 

Aldershot Gas  The Lords have agreed  to the  Aldershot  Gas 
a n (j  Water  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which 
and Water 
the Lords desire the concurrence  of this House. 
Great Western  The Lords  have  agreed  to the  Amendments 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Great  Western 
Railway 
Vessels)Bill  Railway  (Steam  Vessels) Bill  [Lords'], without 
[Lords.] 

.  any  Amendment. 

Burial  Places 
(Exemption 
(Scotland)8^ 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Burial  Places  (Exemption 
from  Rates)  (Scotland)  Bill  be  read  a  second 
uPon  Thursday  the  22nd  day  of  this 

instant July. 

Local 
AuthorMes 
(Medical 
Treatment) 

Ordered,  That  the  Local  Education  Autho-
r i t i es  (Medical  Treatment) Bill (not amended in 
the  Standing  Committee)  be  taken  into  con-
sideration  upon Thursday next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Coal  Mines  (Check­
Coal Mines 
(Check- 
weighers)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 
weig ers)  1 . Q o r a m j t t e ej   ke  taken  into  consideration  upon 

Thursday the 12th day  of August next. 

Ordered, That  the  Licensed  Premises  (Elec-
Licensed 
Premises 
tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Days)Closing  Standing Committee, be taken into consideration 
Bill. 

to-morrow. 

Special  Land 
Tenures Bill.  "ke read  a second time upon Thursday next. 

Ordered,  That the  Special Land Tenures Bill 

Bank Holidays  Ordered,  That  the  Bank  Holidays  Bill  be 
Bil1­  

read a second time to-morrow. 

Parliamentary  Ordered, That  leave  be  given  to  bring  in  a 
seatUndTS °f  B i l1   t 0  e n a b le   ^ e e rs   °f  Scotland,  not  being 
00  n  •->  Lords of Parliament,  to  be elected  and returned 
to sit in the House  of Commons :  And that Mr. 
MacNeill,  Captain Murray,  Sir  William Collins, 
Viscount  Castlereagh, Mr. Howard, Mr. Lamont,
Mr.  Ramsay Macdonald, Mr.  William  Redmond, 
Mr.  Mae Veigh,  Mr.  Younger,  Viscount  Dal­
rymple,  and  Earl  Winterton  do  prepare  and 
bring it in. 

Parliamentary  Mr. MacNeill  accordingly presented  a Bill  to 
Seats (Peensrf enable  Peers  of  Scotland,  not  being  Lords  of 
l>arlia'uent,  to  be elected and  returned  to  sit in 
°Bill 278 
*  the  House  of  Commons:  And  the  same was 
read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  to  be  read a 
second time upon Thursday the 22nd day of this 
instant July ;  and to  be printed. 

1 

Finance Bill. 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on the Finance Bill. 

(In the Committee.) 

Clause No. 2  (Definition of  increment value). 
Question  again  proposed,  That  the  Clause, 
as  amended,  stand  part  of  the  Bill: — Debate 
arising; 

1009. 

[No. 95. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in his 
place  and  claimed  to move, That  the  Question 
be now put. 

Question put, That the Question be now put.  Question put 
The Committee divided. 
aaraoSure 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

of  Debate.) 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

\ 
266. 
J 

Tellers for 

Alexander Acland- J 

Noes 
' 

.Hood>  

1 
(Viscount  Valentia: 

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j 

Question put accordingly,  That the Clause, as 

amended, stand part  of the Bill. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
m  ,, 
r 
Tellers for the I 
Noes, 

(.Captain  Norton: 
fSir Alexander  Acland-

H o  < 

[discount  Valentia : 

302. 

114. 

Clause  No.  3  (General  provisions  as  to  col­

lection of increment value duty). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,  1. 43, to leave 
out the words "  having  regard  to,"  in  order  to 
insert  the  words  "after  giving  credit  for."— 
(Mr.  Attorney  General.) 

Question proposed, That  the  words  proposed 

to be left out stand part of the Clause : 

And  it being a quarter  of  an hour after Eight 
of the clock, and there being Private Business set 
down by direction of the Chairman  of  Ways and 
Means  under  Standing  Order  No.  8,  further 
proceeding was postponed without Question put. 

The  Methwoid  and  Feltwell  Drainage  Bill Methwoid and 

[ Lords]  was, according  to Order, read  a  second f^ainage 
time,  and  committed. 

Bill [Lords.] 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question being 
proposed,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
Committee to substitute, for the general drainage 
tax provided for in Clause  23  and the additional 
tax  in  Clause 24  of  the  Bill,  a scheme of taxa­
tion  graduated  according  to  the  value  of  the 
lands to  be  taxed,  such  as the  Committee  may 
think fair—(Mr.  Winfrey)  ; 

An  Amendment was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the Question,  in  1. 1,  by inserting, after the word 
"  Committee,"  the  words  "  to  consider  and,  if 
deemed advisable."—(Mr.  Clough.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 
be  there  inserted :—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

And  the  Main  Question,  so  amended, being 

put; 

Ordered,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
Committee to consider and, if deemed advisable, 
to substitute,  for the  general  drainage tax pro­
vided  for  in  Clause  23  and  the  additional tax 
in  Clause  24  of  the  Bill,  a scheme  of  taxation 
graduated according  to the value  of the lands  to 
be taxed, such  as the Committee may think fair. 

Postponed  proceeding  on  Amendment  pro- Finance Bill, 

posed  on consideration  of Clause 3; 

Which  Amendment was, in p. 3,1. 43, to leave 

out the  words  "  having  regard to,"  in  order  to  

insert  the  words  "  after  giving  credit  for"—  

(Mr.  Attorney  General),—resumed.  


Question, That  the words proposed  to be left 

out stand part of the Clause, put, and negatived. 


Proposed words there inserted. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 3,  1. 43, 

at  the  end,  to  insert  the  words  "  and  where  

apportionment  of  site  value  is  necessary  after  

increment  duty  has  already  been  paid  on > any 

land  as a whole, then  the increment  upon which 




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duty has been already paid  shall  be apportioned 
in  the  same  manner, but  not  necessarily in the 
same  proportions,  as the  original  site  value."— 
(Mr. James Mason.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  3,1.  43, 
after  the word "  occasions,"  to insert  the words 
"  and after  giving credit  for the amount of  the 
death  duties and  income  tax  paid  in respect of 
such land."—(Viscount  Helmsley.) 

Question proposed,  That those words be there 

inserted :—-Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 4,  1. 2, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "transfer  or."—(Mr. 
James Mason.) 

Question  put,  That  the  word  "  transfer" 

stand part of the Clause. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the/ Mr. James  Mason, 

Noes, 

I Mr. Lane-Fox: 

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) 
f 

Another Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  4,1.  7, 
to  leave  out  subsection  (3).  —  (Mr.  Watson 
Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed, That  the  words proposed 
to  be left  out,  to  the word "  the,"  in  1. 8, stand 
part  of  the  Clause : —  Amendment,  by  leave, 
' 
withdrawn. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 4,1.  11, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "proportionate."—(Mr. 
James  Hope.) 

Question put, That the word "  proportionate " 

stand part of the Clause. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for theJMr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 
Tellers for the/ Mr. James Hope, 

Noes, 

t Mr.  Bowles : 

1  ^^ 
/ 

} 91. 

Other  Amendments made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  4,  1. 13, 
after  the  word  "  Commissioners,"  to insert  the 
words  "after  hearing  all  reasonable  evidence 
submitted to them in that behalf by  or  on  behalf 
of  the  holder  of  the lease,  or of the interest  in 
the land."—(Mr.  James  Mason.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/ Mr. James Mason, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Joynson-Hichs:  


Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

LCaptain Norton : 

} 84. 

1 215. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 4,  1. 15, 

at the end,  to insert the words— 

"  (4)  For  the  purpose  of  the  collection  of 
duty  on  the  increment value of any land under 
this section, the increment value shall  be deemed 
to  be  reduced  on  the  first  occasion  on  which 
increment value becomes  due  under this Act by 
an amount equal to ten per cent,  of  the  original 
site value  of  the  land,  and  on  any subsequent 
occasion  by  an  amount equal to ten per cent, of 
the site value  on the last preceding  dccasion  on 
which  increment  value  duty  has  become  due, 
and the amount  of duty to  be  collected shall  be 
remitted in whole  or in part accordingly. 

Any  duty which  by  reason  of  this  provision 
is remitted  on any occasion shall not be collected, 
and shall be deemed to have been paid. 

VOL.  164. 

Provided  that  no  remission  shall  be,  given 
under  this  provision  on  any occasion which will 
make  the  amount  of  the  increment  value  on 
which duty has  been  remitted  during  the  pre­
ceding period  of  five  years  exceed twenty-five 
per cent,  of the site value  of the land  on the last 
occasion  on  which  increment value became  due 
prior to the commencement of  that  period,  or  of 
the  original  site  value  if  there  has  then been 
no  such  occasion." —  (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

.  Question proposed, That those words be there 
inserted : 

Wednesday, 14th July  1909 : 

Proposed  Amendment  amended  by inserting, 
inl. 3, after the word "  value,"  the word "  duty." 
—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the Exchequer.) 

Another Amendment proposed to the proposed 
Amendment,  to leave out from the  beginning  of 
1.  11 to the end of the  proposed  Amendment.— 
(Lord  Robert  Cecil.) 

Question proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to be left out stand part  of the proposed Amend­
ment:—Amendment  to  the  proposed  Amend­
ment, by leave, withdrawn. 

Question  put,  That  those words,  as amended, 

be there inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Captain Norton : 


|  209. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  George Roberts, 
l_Mr.  Charles Duncan: 

Noes, 


36. 

) 
j 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  after  the 

words last inserted, to insert the words— 

"  (5)  A  draft of the rules made  by the  Com­
missioners under this section shall be laid before 
each House  of Parliament for confirmation for a 
period  of  not less  than  thirty days during  the 
Session  of  Parliament,  and  if  neither of  those 
Houses  presents  an  Address  to  His  Majesty 
within such period against the  draft or any part 
thereof  such  rules  shall  be  deemed  to  be con­
firmed  ;  and  prior to such  confirmation  of  such 
rules  no increment value duty shall  be charged." 
—(Mr.  Lyttelton.) 

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  after 

the 

words last inserted, to  insert the  words— 

" ( a)  Every rule  under  this  section  shall  be 
laid before both  Houses  of  Parliament  as  soon 
as may be after it  is  made,  and if Addresses  are 
presented  to  His  Majesty  by  both  Houses  of 
P a r l i a m e nt  within  the  next  subsequent  thirty 
days  during the Session  of  Parliament, praying 
that the  rule  may be  annulled,  His  Majesty  in 
Council may amend the rule, and it shall thence­
forth  be  void,  but  without  prejudice  to  the 
validity  of  anything  previously  done  there­
under."—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the Exchequer.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn, 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 4,1.  17, 
at the end, to add the words "  but shall not  be a 
charge on the land  so  as to affect any subsequent 
bona  fide  purchaser  for  value."—(Mr.  Watson 
Rutherford.) 

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

added :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part  of  the  Bill. 

Q  Q  3 



302 

1'dtk—tUh July. 

1909.  [N.&-S&. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Captain Norton : 

Tellers for theJ S iy"f  aB<for AcUnd~ 
<  Hood> 
[Viscount  Valentia: 

Noes, 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His Ancient 
Majesty's Command,—Copy of First Report  o f  Monuments 
the  Royal  Commission  on  the  Ancient  and (B,oyai
Historical  Monuments  and  Constructions  of  Commission.) 
Scotland (Inventory  of  Monuments  and Con-

57.  structions  in the County  of Berwick). 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

To report Progress, and ask leave  to sit again. Table. 

Adjournment.

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
  Mr.  Speaker resumed  the  Chair;  and the 
directions  of several Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy 
Chairman  of Ways  and  Means reported, That 
of  six  Orders  in  Council  under  the  Naval  and 
the Committee had made Progress  in the Bill; Marine Pay and Pensions Act,  1865,  approving 
and  that  he  was directed  to move, That  the Memorials  of  the  Lords  Commissioners  of  the 
Committee may have leave  to sit again. 

Admiralty. 


Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day,  
Copy  of Order  in Council  under  the Supreme 
again resolve itself into the said  Committee.  Court of  Judicature Act,  1875, dated 28th June 
1909, amending the Order in Council  of 7th May 


Resolved,  That this House  do now adjourn,—
1907, relating  to the Circuits  of the Judges. 

Naval  and 
Marine  Pay 
and  Pensions 
Act,  1865, 

Supreme  Court 
of  Judicature 
Act,  1875. 

(Mr. Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly the  House, having con-
tinued  to sit till seventeen minutes before 
Two  of the clock on Wednesday morning, 
adjourned till this day. 

Copies of Orders in Council under the Foreign Foreign
Jurisdiction  Act,  1890,  dated  28th  June 1909, Jurisdiction 
entitled  (1)  the  Siam  Order  in  Council,  1909; 
(2)  the China  and Corea (Consular Fees)  Order 
in Council,  1909. 

Act,  1890. 

Copy  of  Order  in  Council  under the Explo-Explosives 
sives Act, 1875, dated 28th June  1909, amending Act,  1875. 
the Orders  in  Council  of  27th  November  1875 
and  11th  February  1907,  relating  to the Stores 
licensed  for  Gunpowder  and  mixed  Explosives 
respectively. 

[No.  96.] 

Ordered, That the said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Wednesday, 14ifh Judy  1909. 
The  House met at a quarter  of an hour 
before Three of the clock. 

Provisional 
Order  Bills 
(Standing 
Orders 
applicable 
thereto 
complied 
with.) 

P R A Y E R S. 

ME.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions 
for  Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the 
following  Bill,  referred  on  the  First  Reading 
thereof,  the  Standing  Orders  which are applic­
able thereto have been complied with, viz.:— 

Local  Government  Provisional  Orders 

(No.  9) Bill. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Government 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Principal Laboratory. 
Chemist  upon  the  Work  of  the  Government 
Laboratory for the year ended 31st March  1909, 
with Appendices. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Sir Joseph  Leese reported from  the Committee  Selection 
of Selection ;  That they had added the following (Standing 
Member  to  Standing  Committee  A  : —  Mr. 
Herbert  Samuel. 

Committee   A . 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie upon the 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read a second time Table. 

to-morrow. 

Manchester 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.'] 

The House proceeded  to  take  into  considera­
tion  the  Manchester  Corporation  Bill  [Lords], 
as amended in the Committee. 

And  Amendments were made to the Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Beport. 

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904. 

Several Public Petitions were  presented, and 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
County  of  Durham  under  the  Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by  the  Secretary  of 
State  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
hours  of closing for certain classes of  Shops. 

Ordered,  That  the  Union  Officers  (Ireland)  Union  Officers 
(Ireland) Bill. 

Bill be read a second time upon Monday next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Police  Superannuation  Police  Super-
Scotland)  (No.  2 )  Bill  be read a second time  annuation 
upon Friday next. 

, 

Mr.  Charles  Nicholson  reported from the Local  Local 
Legislation  Committee  (Section  B );  That  in legislation 
the case  of  the  Heywood  Corporation  Bill  they (Seetion B.) 
had  examined  the  allegations  contained  in  the Heywood 
Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and amended the same  so Corporation 
as  to  make  it  consistent  with the  provisions of 
the Bill  as passed  by the  Committee, and found 
the same,  as amended, to be true ;  and  had gone 
through  the  Bill  and  made  Amendments there­
unto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon the 

Table;  and  be printed. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Vagrancy Bill  be  read  a  Vagrancy  Bill, 

second time upon Friday next. 

Greenwich 
Hospital  and 
Travers' 
Foundation. 
No. 228. 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Statement  of the estimated Income  and  Expen­
diture  of  Greenwich  Hospital  and  of  Travers' 
Foundation for the year 19*09-10. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the House  that a  Message from 

Message had been  brought from the Lords  by  t h  e  Lords, 
one  of their Clerks, as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments Ravenglass 

made  by  this  House  to  the  Ravenglass  and 
EskdJ^® 
Eskdale  Railway  Bill  [Lords],  without  any [lor^sf]  1  

Amendment. 




No. 96.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

Frimley  and 
Farnborough 
District 
Water  Bill 
[Lards.] 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 

made  by this  House  to  the  Frimley and Farn­
borough  District  "Water  Bill  [Lords],  without 
any Amendment. 

Lancashire 
and  Yorkshire 
and  North 
Eastern 
Railways  Bill 
[Lords.]
South 
Staffordshire 
Water  Bill 
[Lords.] 
Glasgow 
Corporation 
BiU [Lords.] 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Lancashire  and 
Yorkshire  and  North  Eastern  Railways  Bill 
[Lords],  without any Amendment. 

The Lords have agreed  to the  Amendments 
made  by this House to the South  Staffordshire 
Water Bill [Lords], without any Amendment. 
The  Lords  have  passed  a Bill,  intituled  An 
Act  to  make  provision  with  reference  to  the 
preparation,  auditing,  and  publication  of  the 
annual  accounts of  the  Corporation  of  the City 
of  Glasgow;  to  authorise  the  Corporation  to 
construct new tramways;  to increase the present 
charges for  lighting  private  streets  and  courts 
and  common stairs;  to  increase  the  assessment 
for  sewage purposes ;  to borrow further moneys 
for  the  purposes  of  the  Glasgow  Tramways 
Acts,  1905  to 1907,  the Glasgow  Sewage Acts, 
1891  to  1907,  and  the  Glasgow  Corporation 
Parks  Acts,  1878  to  1905;  and  to  extend  the 
boundaries  of  the  city,  and for other purposes ; 
to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of 
this House. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for the/e^r"  Alfred  Mason, 

Yeas 
' 

John Dichson­

I 
[  Poynder:


Tellers for the/Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

\Captain  Norton: 

303 

96. 

278. 

An  Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 4,1.  20, 
to  leave out  from  the  word  "  be"  to  the word 
"assessed,"  in p. 4,1.  22.—(Mr.  Watson Ruther­
ford.) 

Question put, That the words "  collected  on " 

stand part of the Clause. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

} 290. 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 
Tellers for the fMr.  Watson Rutherford,") j^g 

Noes, 

[Sir Francis  Lowe:

1.

Another Amendment proposed,  in  p. 4,  1. 21, 
to  leave  out  the  words  " or  agreed  to  be 
effected."—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  proposed, That  the  words proposed 

to be left out stand part of the Clause :—Amend­
ment, by leave, withdrawn. 

"Glasgow 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Finance  Bill. 

read thefirst time. 

The Glasgow  Corporation  Bill  [Lords]  was 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 4,  1. 23, 
after  the  word  "lessor,"  to  insert  the  words 
  mortgagee  who  joins  in  any  such 
"  except
transfer  or lease  as  a  consenting party and does 
not receive  a  greater  part  of  the  consideration 
Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  referred  to  the than  the  amount  of  his  principal,  interest,  and 
costs, and  except  a  trustee  or  other consenting 
party."—(Mr.  Watson Rutherford.) 

Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills. 

a

The House, according to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee on the Finance Bill. 

(In the Committee.) 
Clause No. 4  (Collection and recovery of duty 

in case of transfers and leases). 

Amendment  proposed,  in p.  4,  1.  18,  to leave 
out the first word "  on,"  in  order  to  insert the 
word "  after."—(Mr. James Hope.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The Committee divided. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Remnant, 

Yeas, 

[Mr.  Lane-Fox : 
Tellers for the/Captain  Norton, 

Noes, 

[Mr.  Fuller: 

54. 

00. 

part  of the Clause :—Debate arising; 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 4,1.  23, 
Question proposed, That the word "on" stand after  the  word  "  lessor,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  but  a  mortgagee  who  becomes  the  owner by 
foreclosure shall not  be liable if  he receives from 
the sale  or lease no more than the amount  of his 
advance, with  interest  and costs."—(Mr.  Austen 
Chamberlain.) 

Mr.  Attorney  General  rose  in  his  place  and 
Closure 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
claimed, but 
Chairman 
put;  but the Chairman withheld his assent, and 
withholds  his 
declined then to put that Question, as it appeared 
assent, and 
-gives a Reason, to  him  that  the  Committee  were  prepared  very 
shortly  to  come  to  a  decision  without  that 
Motion :—Debate resumed. 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

of the  Clause. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  4,  1. 23, 
Question put, That the word "  on " stand part after the word "  be,"  to insert the words "  but in 
the case  of  a  mineral  lease  the increment value 
duty shall  not  be  collected  until  after the  first 
fourteen years of the lease have  expired."—(Sir 
Clifford  Cory.) 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the [Mr. Joseph Pease, 

„g2 

Yeas, 

(Sir  Edward Strachey :  J 

~l 
) 

Tellers for the/Mr. Younger, 

Noes, 

[Mr. Lane-Fox: 
'' 
Another Amendment proposed,  in  p.  4,  1. 19, 
after  the  second  word  "land,"  to  insert  the 
words "  within the  meaning  of  sections  one  and 
two of this Act."—(Mr.  Alfred  Mason.) 

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

inserted:—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 
Another Amendment proposed,  in  p. 4,  1.  19, 
after  the  second  word  "  land,"  to  insert  the 
words  "  in  respect  of  which  increment  value 
duty  is due."—(Mr. Alfred Mason.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in  p.  4,  1. 24, 
at the beginning, to insert the words "  Within a 
period  of  not less than one calendar month after 
execution  of  such  instrument." —(Mr.  James 
Mason.) 

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 4,1.  24, 
to  leave  out  subsection  (2).—(Mr.  Evelyn
Cecil.) 

Question proposed, That those words  be there  Question put, That the words "  It shall" stand 

inserted : 

part  of  the Clause. 

Proposed Amendment amended  by  inserting, 
after the word " of,"  the words " either of."— 
(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain^) 

Question put, That those words, as  amended, 

be there inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for thefMr.  Joseph  Pease,

Yeas, 

.[Captain  Norton :
Tellers  for  thefMr.  Evelyn  Cecil,

Noes, 

(Mr.  Laurence Hardy  :

\ ggg 
J 
\ 
j 

^ 

VOL.  164. 

Q  Q  4 

lMh—15th  July. 

1909. 

[No. m. 

Another Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 4,1. 24, 
to leave out the words "  in cases where increment 
value duty is due."—(Mr. Dickinson.) 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  4,1.  28,  

after  the  word  "lessor,"  to  insert  the  word  

"  wilfully."—( Viscount Castlereagh.)

Question proposed, That  the word "  wilfully " 

Question  proposed,  That  the words  proposed 
to  be  left out, to the word  "  due,"  in p. 4,1.  25, 
stand part of the Clause: 

Thursday, \5th July  1909 : 

Question put. 
The Committee divided. 

Tellers for the (Sir  Alexander Acland-

} 

Y e as 

' 

• 

I 
(Viscount  Valentia: 

' 

Tellers for the /Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

1 Captain Norton : 

be there inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, with-
drawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  4,1.  28, 
after  the word "  fails,"  to  insert  the Words "  for 
a  period  of  thirty  days  from  the  execution  by 
him  of such instrument."—(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks.)


Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there  


inserted. 


101. 

218. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joynson-Hicks, 
(Viscount Helmsley: 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

"}  ^ 
J

\ ] 75
J 

The word "  due "  left out. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 4,1.  24,  
 Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  4,  1. 29, 
after the word "  lessor,''  to insert the words "  on  to  leave out  the words "  on summary conviction 
the  occasion of  any transfer  on sale of any land,  to afine of  ten pounds and."—(Viscount  Castle-
or interest in  land,  or  on  the grant  of  any lease  reagh.)
of any land for a term exceeding fourteen years." 

—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer.) 

(Captain Norton: 

Noes, 

Question put, That the words  proposed  to  be  

left  out, to  the word  "  of,"  in  p. 4,1.  30, stand  

part of the Clause. 

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

inserted: 

Amendment proposed to the proposed Amend­
ment,  at  the  end,  to  add  the  words  "  and  on 
application  by  the  Commissioners."—(Viscount 
Helmsley.) 

Question proposed,  That those words be there 


The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain Norton: 

Tellers for thej Viscount  Castlereagh, 

Noes, 

(Mr. Joynson-Hicks  :

1 163 
J 

71. 

added  to  the  proposed  Amendment:—Debate  Other Amendments made. 


1/CU1LU  til U 
"•"APP ITT_, 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer rose in  his Closure 

i-ef—the  place and  claimed  to move, That  the  Question, 

claimed,  but 
Chairman 
That  the  words  of  the  Clause  to  the  word withholds  his 

-• 
T  11 LJL  J.XUU1T  "  regulations,"  in  p. 5,  1. 20,  stand  part  of  the assent. 


s^r,*-  TJnrvi 

and,  in  pursuanoo  of  Standing  Order  No.-8%  Clause,  be  now  put;  but  the  Chairman  with-

Ofdcrcd  him  to withdraw immediately-frem-the  held  his  assent, and  declined  then  to  put  that  

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I LUiUIHIuvr  U1  CU1U  WOT ~  Question. 

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entry  was  expunged by  Order of  the  House  on 
16th  July.] 

Another Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 4,1.  32, 
at  the  end, to insert  the words "  Provided that 
Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the no  proceedings  shall  be  taken  more  than  one 
Chairman  do report  Progress, and  ask  leave  to  year  after  the  transfer  or  lease  has  been  

sit again.—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 
The Committee divided.  


effected.''—(Viscount  Helmsley.)  


Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there  


Tellers for the| Sir^teawi&r  Acland-  1 
?
Ho"d>
J 

1  .
I Viscount  Valentia : 

Yeas 
' 

  8 8­

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Captain Norton: 
Question put, That those words be there added 

j 

inserted. 


The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Viscount Helmsley, 

Yeas, 

I Mr.Lane-Fox-. 

Tellers for the f Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Captain  Norton: 

„,

) 
I
"1 j^g
' 
J 

to the proposed Amendment. 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the / Viscount Helmsley, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Samuel Roberts-. 

Tellers for the [Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

\ Captain Norton 

-. 

„. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Chairman  do  report  Progress,  and  ask 
leave  to  sit  again—(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain)  :
—Debate  arising ; 


) 
j 
\ iqq 
 Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose in  his 
'  place and  claimed  to  move, That  the  Question 
J 

Question, That those words  be there inserted,  be now put. 

put, and agreed to. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 4,  1. 26, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  in  accordance  with 
regulations made by them."—(Mr.  Lane-Fox.) 

Question proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to be left out stand part of the Clause :—Amend-
ment, by leave, withdrawn. 

Another Amendment made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 4,1.  27, 
to  leave out  the words  "  for  the purpose of  the  

assessment  of  duty  thereon."  —  (Mr.  Watson 
Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the words  proposed 
to be left out stand part of the Clause  :—Amend-
ment,  by leave,  withdrawn. 

Question put, That  the Question be now put.  Question  put 
(pursuant to 
The Committee divided. 
S.O.  Closure 
o£ Debate.) 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 
1 Captain Norton : 
.  fSir Alexander  Acland­

Yeas, 
r 

j  162. 

m  „ 
Tellers for the I  H o o d> 

65. 

Noes, 

(Viscount  Valentia:

Question put accordingly,  That the Chairman 


do report Progress, and ask leave  to sit again. 

The Committee divided.  

Tellers for the/Mr.  Henry Forster, 

"1  „ . 


Yeas, 

(Lord Edmund  Talbot :  J  


Tellers  for the {Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
ICaptain  Norton  -. 

Noes, 

\ , 


J 







 


No. 96.]  9  E D W.  Y IL 

14th—15th  July. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer rose in  his 
place and  claimed  to move, That  the Question, 
That the words of  the Clause  to  the end  of  p.  5,
1. 4, stand part  of the Clause,  be now put. 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 

words  of  the  Clause  to  the  end  of  p. 5,  1. 4, 
stand part of the Clause,  be now put. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the / Mr. Joseph Pease, 

I Captain  Norton : 


Yeas, 

Tellers for the/Viscount  Valentia,  

(Mr.  Henry  Forster : 

Noes, 

3 05 

1149. 

| 60.  


Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause, 

as amended, stand part  of  the Bill. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
I Captain Norton : 


Yeas, 

Tellers for the/Viscount  Valentia,  

[ Mr. Henry  Forster : 

Noes, 

|  159. 

65. 

}  150. 

}  60. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the Chairman  do report Progress, and ask leave 
to  sit  again—(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks) :—Debate 
arising; 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the fMr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 
„ 

( Captain  Norton:  

.  fSir  Alexander  Acland­

rn  .. 
1 ellers tor the J Hood, 

Noes, 

^(Viscount  Valentia: 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the words of 
the  Clause  to  the end  of  p. 5,  1. 4,  stand  part 
of the Clause. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the J" Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

[Captain  Norton : 


Tellers for the f Mr. Henry  Forster,  


Noes, 

[ Lord  Edmund Talbot:  I 

1163. 

I  64. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 5,  1. 4, 
after  the  word "  security,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  and  to  that  denoting stamp shall  be affixed a 
farther  stamp  declaring  the value  of  the  duty 
after  such  duty  has  been  paid."—(Viscount 
Helmsley.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted : 

Proposed  Amendment  amended  by  leaving 
out  the  word  "shall,"  in  order  to  insert  the 
words  "may,  if  the  purchaser  so  desires."— 
( Mr. Joynson-Hicks.) 

Question  put,  That  those words,  as amended, 

be there inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the | Viscount Helmsley, 
I. Mr. Joynson-Hicks : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
(Captain  Norton  : 

Noes, 

Another Amendment made. 

1  62. 
f 

}  157. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place and  claimed  to  move, That  the Question, 
That the words of  the Clause  to the end of  p. 5, 
1. 20,  stand part  of  the Clause,  be now put. 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
words  of  the  Clause  to  the end  of  p. 5,  1. 20, 
stand part  of the Clause,  be now put. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the/ Viscount  Valentia, 
(Mr.  Henry  Forster : 

Noes, 

149. 

61. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the words of 
the Clause  to  the  end  of  p. 5,  1. 20, stand  part 
of  the Clause. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer  rose  in  his Closure 
place and  claimed  to move,  That  the  Question claimed, but 
be  now  put;  but  the  Chairman  withheld  his w^hhoids his 
assent, and declined  then  to put that Question : assent. 
—Debate resumed. 

Mr.  Morrell rose in  his  place and claimed  to closure 

move, That  the Question  be now put;  but  the claimed, but 
Chairman withheld his assent, and declined then withholds his 
to put that Question :—Debate  resumed. 

assent. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place and  claimed  to move, That  the  Question 
be now put. 

Question put, That the Question  be now put.  Question put 
The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 

(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

1144. 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 


Tellers for the/Viscount  Valentia,  

( Mr.  Henry Forster : 

I  60. 

Question put accordingly, That the Chairman 


Noes, 

do report Progress,  and ask leave  to sit again. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Lord Edmund Talbot,  |  g^ 

Yeas, 

( Marquess  of Hamilton :  I  


Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 

[Captain  Norton : 
Clause  No.  5  (Collection  and  recovery  of 

0  Noes, 

145. 

duty  in case of death). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  5,  1.  26,  after 
"  1894,"  to insert the words "  including appeals." 
—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee divided. 
m  ii 
Tellers for the I  M r  F r e d e r i ck  E J i  n 

it  fMr.  Watson Rutherford, I 

r 

leaSj 

(  Smith-. 

I  59. 
J 

Noes, 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
(Captain  Norton  : 
Another  Amendment proposed,  in  p. 5,  1. 26, 
after  "  1894,"  to  insert  the  words  "  except 
section  seven,  subsection  five."—(Mr.  Joynson-
Hicks.)

137. 

\ 
/ 

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

inserted: 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the/Viscount  Valentia, 
(Mr.  Henry  Forster 

Noes, 

Other Amendments made. 

152. 

60. 

Mr.  Carlile  moved,  That  the  Chairman  do Chairman 
report Progress, and ask leave to sit again j  but declines to 
the Chairman, being  of opinion that the  Motion Qru°ep3°^nthe 
was  an  abuse  of  the  Rules  of  the  House, (Abuse of 
declined  to  propose  the Question thereupon  to Bules)
the Committee. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer rose  in  his 
place and  claimed  to move,  That  the Question, 
That the Clause,  as  amended,  stand part  of the 
Bill,  be now put. 

Question  put,  That  the Question,  That  the 
Clause,  as  amended, stand  part  of  the  Bill, be 
now put. 

VOL.164. 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joynson-Hicks, 

Yeas, 

t Mr. Remnant: 

Tellers for thefMr. Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

[Captain  Norton: 

\ 
/ 

57. 

J  137. 


R  R 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 







306 

14th—X&th  July. 

1909. 

[No.  97. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 5,  1. 34, 
at  the end, to add  the words "  Provided that in 
respect  of  all  property  of  the  deceased,  other 
than that  assessed  to  increment value duty,  the 
Crown  shall,  as  a creditor  in  respect  of  such 
increment value  duty,  rank  after  all  the  other 
creditors  of  the  deceased." — (Mr.  Joynson-
Hicks.) 

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

added: 

Proposed Amendment  amended,  in  1.  3,  by 
leaving  out  the words "  after  all."  in  order  to 
insert the words "pari passu with."—(Mr. Chan­
cellor  of the Exchequer.) 

Proposed words,  as amended, there inserted. 

Question put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part  of the Bill. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the j Mr.  Jo seph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain Norton  % 

Tellers for the/Viscount Valentia, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Henry  Forster : 

54. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Chairman  do  report Progress,  and ask  leave to 
sit again.—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the Exchequer.) 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry  the Bill to 
the Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them that this House 
hath agreed to  the same, with Amendments ;  to 
which this House cloth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

Ordered,  That  the  Lisburn  Urban  District  Lisburn  Urban 

Council  Bill  [Lords]  be  read  the  third  time  Uistrict 
Council Bill 

to-morrow. 
[Lords.] 


A  M otion being made, That the Southend-on-  Southend-


Sea  Corporation  Bill  [Lords]  be  now  read  the on-Sea 

third time ; 

Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Mr.  Burns,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted  the  House  that  His  Majesty, 
having been informed  of the purport of the Bill, 
gives  His  Consent,  as  far  as  His  Majesty's 
interest  is  concerned,  that  the  House  may  do 
therein  as they shall think fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and  


148. 

passed, with Amendments. 


Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the Bill to 

the  Lords;  and acquaint them that  this House  

hath agreed  to  the same, with Amendments ;  to  

which this  House doth desire the concurrence of 

their Lordships. 


The Committee divided. 
Tellers for thel Mr. Joseph Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

158. 

Tellers for the f Mr.  George Roberts, 
(.Mr.  Charles  Duncan 

Noes, 

1  43. 
J 

The  House proceeded  to take  into  considera-  Westminster 
tion  the  Westminster  City  Council  (Super-Cit7 Council 
annuation, &c.)  Bill  [Lords],  as amended  in the  S ^ O Bm 
Committee. 

[Lords.] 

And  Amendments were made  to the Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made Progress  in the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee may have leave  to sit again. 

The  House,  according  to Order, proceeded  to  Ardrossan 

take  into consideration  the  Ardrossan  Harbour confirmation^ 
Order Confirmation Bill  [Lords]. 

Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the  third  time 

Resolved,  That this  House  will, upon  Monday 

upon Monday next. 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

Adjournment.

Resolved, That  this  House  do  now adjourn.— 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders Local 

(No.  9)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a Government 
second time, and committed. 

Orders (No. 9) 
Bill. 

Several Public Petitions  were  presented, and Public 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till five  minutes  after Nine 
of  the  clock  on  Thursday 
adjourned till this day. 

1 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide Fourth 
Report. 
Mr.  Runciman presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Board  of 
Command, —Copy  of  Report  on  the Geological  Education. 
Survey  and  Museum  in  Jerniyn  Street,  the 
Science  Museum  at  South  Kensington,  and  on 
the Work  of  the Solar  Physics  Committee  for 
the year  1908. 

[No.  97.] 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Thursday,  15th July  1909. 

The House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three  of the clock, 

P R A YE  RS. 

Provisional 
Order Bills 
[  Lords] 
(Standing 
Orders 
applicable 
thereto 
complied 
with.) 

< 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions 
for  Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the 
following  Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords,  arid 
referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof,  the 
Standing  Orders  which  are  applicable  thereto 
have been complied with,  viz.:— 

Pier  and  Harbour  Provisional  Order 

(No.  1)  Bill  [Lords']. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 

Great 
Yarmouth 
Corporation 
Bill [Lords.] 

The Great  Yarmouth Corporation Bill  {Lords] 
was read the third time and passed, with Amend­
ments. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  pursuant  to  the Harwich 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Harbour. 
Abstract  of  the  Accounts  of  the  Receipts and 
Expenditure  of  the  Harwich  Harbour  Con­
servancy  Board,  from  the  time  of  their  incor­
poration  down  to  and  inclusive  of  the  31st 
March 1909. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His Historical 
Majesty's  Command,  —  Copy  of  Report,  of  Manuscripts 
American  Manuscripts  in the Royal  Institution kommis 
of Great  Britain.  Volume  IV. 

Commission.) 

Copy  of  Index  of  Volumes  I.  and II.  of the  Historical 
Report  by  Sir  John  T.  Gilbert,  LL.D.,  on  the Manuscripts 
Manuscripts  of the  Marquess  of  Ormonde,  K.P.,  commission.) 
preserved  at the Castle, Kilkenny. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


No. 9 7]

9  E D W.  Y I I. 

15$

Bankruptcy  of 
a  Member. 

Mr.  Speaker informed the House that  he had 

received the following letter : — 

High  Court  of  Justice  in Ireland, 
King's Bench  Division—Bankruptcy. 
Four Courts, Dublin, 

Sir, 

13 July  1909. 

I  am directed by the Honourable Mr. Justice 
Boyd  to  inform  you  that  Nicholas J. Murphy, 
of  Ballyhale,  County  Kilkenny,  grocer,  baker, 
and  publican,  was  adjudicated  a  Bankrupt  in 
this Court  on  the  10th  day  of  July  1908, and 
that  the  Order  of  Adjudication  has not  been 
annulled, which fact I  am to certify, pursuant to 
Sections 41  and 42  of the 35 & 36  Vict.  c. 58. 

I  am, Sir, 

Your obedient Servant, 
H .   F .  GILSON, 

The Bight Honourable 
the Speaker, 

Deputy  Registrar, 

House  of Commons,  

London. 


Ordered, That the Infant Life Protection Bill 

be read a second time to-morrow. 

Infant Life 
Protection 
Bill. 

Collooney, 
Ballina, and 
Belmullet 
Railways and 
Piers Bill. 

July. 
Grants for the building  of new Public  Elemen­
tary  Schools and sundry Grants  in Aid: 

307 

Whereupon  Motion made,  and  Question pro­
posed,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £6,648,692 
be granted for the said Service.—(Lord Edmund 
Talbot.) 

And it being a quarter  of  an hour after Eight 
of the clock,  and  there  being  Private Business 
set down by direction  of the Chairman  of  Ways 
and Means under Standing Order No.  8, further 
proceeding was postponed without  Question put. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the North Eastern 

Second Reading  of  the  North Eastern  Railway  Railway  Bill 
Bill  [Lords]; 

'Lord^ 

And a Motion being made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read a 
second time ; 

An  Amendment was proposed  to  be  made to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out the word "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  three  months." —  (Mr. 
Summerbell.) 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 
from  the  Committee  on the Collooney,  Ballina, 
and  Belmullet  Railways  and  Piers  Bill;  That 
they had  examined  the allegations  contained  in 
the Preamble  of the Bill, and  verbally  amended 
the  same,  and  found  the same,  as  amended,  to 
be true ;  and had gone through the Bill and made 
Amendments thereunto. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That the  

word "  now "  stand part  of the Question :—And 

a Debate arising thereupon ; 

And a Motion being  made, and  the  Question 
being put, That  the  Debate  be  now adjourned 
—(Mr.  Maddison):—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be  resumed upon 

Orderei/,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Monday next. 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

Alexandra 
(Newport and 
South Wales) 
Docks and 
Railway Bill 
[Lords.'] 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 
the  Alexandra  (Newport  and  South  Wales) 
Docks and Railway Bill [Lords], without Amend­
ment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Railway  Bills 
(Group 5.) 

Mr.  Soames  reported  from  the  Committee 
on  Group  5  of  Railway  Bills  ;  That,  for the 
convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Thursday  the  22nd  day  of  this 
instant July,  at half  an hour after Eleven  of the 
clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Message from 
the Lords. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
Message  had been brought  from  the  Lords  by 
one of their Clerks,  as followeth : 

South Eastern 
and London, 
Chatham, 
and Dover 
Railways Bill 
[Lords.] 

The Lords give leave  to  the  Lord  Harris  to 
attend  in  order  to  his  being  examined  as  a 
Witness  before  the  Committee  appointed  by 
this House  for  the  consideration  of  the  South 
Eastern  and  London,  Chatham,  and  Dover 
Railways  Bill  [Lords], his Lordship consenting. 

The House, according to Order, proceeded  to Edinburgh 
take into consideration the Edinburgh  Merchant  Merchant 
Company Endowments Order Confirmation Bill ^Mo^ents 
[Lords]. 

order 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  now  read the third  ^ f S ^  j 

time :—The  Bill  was accordingly read the third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 
the Lords;  and acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath agreed  to the same, without Amendment. 

Postponed  proceeding  on  Question  proposed  Supply 

on  consideration  of  Question,  That  a  sum  not  (Civil Services 
exceeding £6,648,792  be granted to His Majesty, ^paXents 
to  complete  the  sum  necessary  to  defray  the Estimates.) 
charge  which  will  come  in  course  of payment 
during the year ending  on the 31st day of March 
1910 for the Salaries and Expenses of the Board 
of Education, and  of  the various  Establishments 
connected therewith,  including  Grants  for  the 
building  of  new  Public  Elementary  Schools 
and sundry Grants in Aid ; 

Which  Question was, That a sum not  exceed­
ing  £6,648,692  be granted  for the said Service 
—(Lord  Edmund  Talbot),—resumed. 

Supply 
[14th allotted 
Day.] 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into the Committee  of Supply. 

(In  the Committee.)  


Civil Services and Revenue Departments  

Estimates,  1909-10.  


Class  IY. 

Motion made, and Question proposed,  That  a 
sum  not  exceeding  £6,648,792  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty,  to complete  the  sum necessary to 
defray the charge which  will  come in course  of 
payment during the year ending  on the 31st day 
of March 1910 for the Salaries and Expenses of 
the  Board  of  Education,  and  of  the  various 
Establishments  connected  therewith,  including 

VOL.  164. 

Question  again  proposed,  That  a  sum  not  

exceeding  £6,648,692  be  granted  for  the  said  

Service : 


And  it  being  Eleven  of  the  clock,  the 
Chairman  left  the Chair  to make his Report to 
the House. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman  acquainted  the  House  that 
the Committee had made Progress  in the matter 
to them referred;  and  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may have  leave  to 
sit again. 

Resolved, That this  House will, upon Monday 
next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

R  R  2 

308 

lbth  July. 

1909. 

[No. 97. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving Resolved, That  this House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Supply 
[8th  July] 
Report. 

Supply 
[17th  June] 
Report 
(Postponed 
Resolution.) 

the Report from the  Committee  of  Supply of 
the 8th day  of this instant July ; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  First  of  the Resolutions 
which,  upon  the  1st  day  of  this  instant  July, 
were reported from the Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 17th day of June last, and which Resolution 
was then postponed ; 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be taken 

into consideration upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for taking  Board  of 
into  consideration the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade BiU­
amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Milk and 
  Dames  BlU-

Second Reading  of the Milk and Dairies Bill;


Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 


upon Monday next.  


Supply 
[24th  June] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 24th day  of J une last; 

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  ^nland 
Revenue  Rill; 


-r,.,. 

° 

Revenue Bdl. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 


Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

to-morrow. 


Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the day being  read,  for  taking  Oaths Bill, 

Supply 
[14th  June] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the  14th day  of June last ; 

into  consideration  the  Oaths Bill,  as amended 
in the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  taken  into  further 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received upon 

consideration upon Monday next. 

Thursday next. 

Supply 
[3rd  June] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 3rd day  of June last; 

Ordered, That  the Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  Under Sheriffs 

into  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs (County 
Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  (Ireland) Bill. 
Standing Committee : 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday next. 

Supply 
[27th  April] 
Report. 

The Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply  of 
the 27th day  of April last; 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the day being read,  for  taking L00ai 

into  consideration  the  Local Education  Autho- Education 
rities  (Medical  Treatment)  Bill  (not  amended  f ^ S f  8 
in  the  Standing  Committee); 
Treatment) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con-Bl11' 

sideration to-morrow. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  o£  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and Means ; 

Resolved,  That  this House  will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

Labour 
Exchanges 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill, 
as amended  in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Monday  next. 

Secretary  of 
the  Board  of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries 
BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the Board 
of Agriculture and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order of the day being  read,  for  taking Licensed 
into consideration the Licensed  Premises (Elec- Premises 
tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the Days)losing 
Standing  Committee; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Wednesday next. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming Sale of 
the adjourned  Debate  on the Amendment  which, Intoxicating 
upon  the  25th  day  of  June  last, was  proposed Sunday Bill, 
to  be  made  on  consideration  of  the  Sale  of 
Intoxicating  Liquors on Sunday Bill, as amended 
in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till Tuesday  next. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

The  Order of the day being read, for receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  on Irish Land 
[Advances,  &c.] ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The Order  of  the day  being  read,  for  taking Bishopric  of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield Sheffield Bill. 
Bill,  as amended  in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  taken  into con­

sideration to-morrow. 

Super­
annuation 
[Allow­
ances and 
Gratuities.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on Superannuation  [Allowances and 
Gratuities] ; 

. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being read,  for the  Remission  of 

Committee  on  the  Remission  of  Surcharges 
(Dublin) (recommitted) Bill ; 

(Dublin)  BiU. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Public  Works 
Loans 
[Remission.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  Public  Works  Loans  [Remis­
sion] ; 

The  Metropolitan  Ambulances  Bill  was, Metropolitan 
according  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and  Ambulances 
committed to a Standing Committee. 

Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read,  for the 

Trains 

Second Reading of the Cheap Trains Bill; 

Bill. 

Public  Works 
Loans  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Committee  on  the  Public  Works  Loans  B i l l; 

upon  Monday  next. 

No.  97.]  9  E D W.   Y I I. 

15th—16$  July. 

3 09 

Local 
Authorities 
(Legal 
Expenses) 
BiU. 

Criminal 
Appeal  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  the  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 
Second  Heading  of  the  Local  Authorities  Second Reading  of the Dogs' Protection Bill;  gg*80tton 
(Legal  Expenses)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a second time 

to-morrow. 


upon Thursday next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Wild Birds 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Second  Reading  of  the Wild  Birds  Protection Faction 

Second Reading  of the Criminal A ppeal Bill; 

Bill; 

BlU-

Ordered,  That the Bill be read a second  time Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Tuesday next. 

to-morrow. 

Municipal 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
(Qualification  Second  Reading  of the Municipal  Corporations 
of  Clergymen)  (Qualification  of  Clergymen) Bill  [Lords] ; 
Bill [Lord*.-]  Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera-  stage Plays 
tion that part of the Message  from the Lords  o f  (Censorship.), 
the 8th day of  this instant July concurring with 
the Commons in their Resolution relating  to the 
appointment  of  a  Joint  Committee  on  Stage 
Plays (Censorship). 

Special Land

Tenures BiU.


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  Second  Reading  of  the  Special  Land  Tenures 

Bill ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Thursday next. 

Death
Certificates
(Charges)  Bill.
&
v 

\ T>-H

(Charges)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  Second  Reading  of  the  Death  Certificates 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

Foreign and
Colonial Meat  Second  Reading  of  the  Foreign  and  Colonial 
Bl11'

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Meat  Bill; 

Ordered, That, the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Tuesday next. 

Road Traffic 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Road  Traffic Bill ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second lime 

upon Thursday next. 

Ordered, That  a  Select  Committee  of  Five 
Members  be appointed,  to  be joined  with  a  like 
number  of Lords,  to inquire into the  Censorship 
of  Stage  Plays  as  constituted by the Theatres 
Act,  1843, and  into  the  operation  of  the  Acts 
of  Parliament  relating  to  the  licensing  and 
regulation  of theatres and places  of  public enter­
tainment, and  to  report  any  alterations  of  the 
Law  or practice which may appear desirable. 

Ordered, That a  Message  be sent to the Lords 
to acquaint them therewith :  And that the Clerk 
do carry the said Message.—(Mr. Joseph Pease.) 
Mr.  Robert Harcourt,  Mr. Hugh Law,  Colonel 
Lockwood,  Mr.  Alfred  Mason,  and Mr.  Herbert 
Samuel  were  nominated  Members  of  the Com­
mittee. 

Ordered, That the Committee  have  power  to 

send for persons, papers, and records. 

Ordered, That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee. 

And then  the  House,  having  continued to 

sit  till  six  minutes  after  Eleven  of  the  

clock, adjourned till to-morrow.  


Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial 
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Tuesday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,, for  the 
Restraint  of
Trades (Shops) Second  Reading  of  the  Restraint  of  Trades 
BllL 

(Shops) Bill ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Tuesday next. 

Hours  of 
_
Labour , 
(Surfacemeo)

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

  Second Reading  of the Hours of Labour (Sur­

f a c e m e n)

  B  m 

. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second  time 

upon Tuesday next. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Rights)  Bill. 

The  Orcier  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Conveyancing 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Conveyancing  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

Settled  Land 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 

Second Reading  of  the Settled Land Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

V O L,   164. 

[No.  98.] 

Friday,  16*A July  1909. 

The  House met  at Twelve  of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private Bills 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions lh'rd'p 

for  Private  Bills,  That  in  the  case  of  the Oi.iers'not 
following  Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords,  and previously 
referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into, with!)16' 
and  which  are  applicable  thereto,  have  been 
complied  with, viz. :— 

the inquired into 

Risca  Urban District  Council Bill  [Lords]. 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a second time. 

The  House proceeded  to take  into  considera-: Aldershot Gas 

tion the Amendments made by the Lords  to the
Aldershot  Gas  and  Water  Bill  ;  and the same  1 
were twice read, and agreed to. 

Water 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the Amendments  made  by their 
Lordships. 

The House  proceeded  to  take into considera- Ammanford 

tion the  Amendments made by the Lords  to the Gas Bm-
Ammanford Gas Bill;  and the same were twice 
read, and agreed to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
R  E  3 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
\($th  July. 

1909. 

[No.  98. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented, and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  those 

words be there inserted  in the Bill; 

Pier and 
Harbour 
Provisional 
Order (No.  1) 
Bill  [Lords.]
Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Beport. 
Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

hath agreed  to  the  Amendments made by their 
Lordships. 

Lisburn  Urban 
District 
Council  Bill 
[Lords.'] 

The  Lisburn  Urban  District  Council  Bill 
[Lords']  was, according  to Order, read  the  third 
time and passed, with Amendments. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill to 
the  Lords ;  and acquaint them that  this House 
hath agreed  to the same, with Amendments ;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

Bill. 

The  Pier  and  Harbour  Provisional  Order 
(No.  1) Bill  [Lords]  was,  according  to  Order, 
read a second time, and committed. 

Secretary Sir Edward Grey presented,  by His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic and 
Consular  Reports,  Annual Series, No. 4295. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Trade Boards 
Bill. 

The House, according  to Order, proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Trade Boards Bill, 
as amended  in the Standing  Committee. 

Bill. 

An  Amendment was proposed  to  be  made to 
the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1. 7,  by leaving  out  from  the 
word  " a n d"  to  the  end  of  subsection  (1)  of 
Clause 1, and inserting the words "  subject to the 
provisions  of  this Act  may be  applied  to  other 
trades  by Order  of  the  Board  of  Trade,  after 
inquiry,  as  provided  in  this  section"—(Mr, 
Barnes),—instead thereof. 

And  the Question  being  put, That the words 

proposed to be left out stand part of the Bill; 

Then  an Amendment  was made to the Bill. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  2,1.  18,  by leaving out 
Clause 3.—(Mr.  Carlile.) 

And the  Question  being  put, That the words 

proposed  to  be  left  out stand part  of the  Bill: 
—It  was resolved in the Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to the Bill,  in p.  3,  1. 4,  by inserting, after 
the word  "  months,"  the  words "  including any 
objections  based  on  the  competition  of  similar 
goods  of  foreign  manufacture." — (Mr.  Harry
Marks.) 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Harry  Marks, 

Yeas, 

\ Mr.  Gouldiny:  


Tellers for theJMr. Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

(Captain  Norton: 

)  36. 

\ 151. 

So it passed in the Negative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to the Bill,  in p. 3,  1. 17,  by inserting  at the end 
thereof  the words "  And provided that when any 
minimum time-rate or general minimum piece-rate 
has been made obligatory in the manner provided 
by this Act,  it  shall  not  be varied  or cancelled 
during six months from the date  of the obligatory 
Order,  or during such further time  as the Board 
of Trade  in the  obligatory  Order  may appoint." 
—(Sir  William  Bull.) 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for thej Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Whitley : 

Tellers for the j Mr.  Barnes,  


Noes, 

I Mr. Keir  Hardie : 

And the Question  being proposed, That those 
words  be  there  inserted  in the Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

}

|  36. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to the Bill,  in  p.  1, 1.13,  by leaving out the 
word  "  exceptionally,"  and  inserting  the  word 
"  unduly "—(Mr.  Alden),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 

word "  exceptionally "  stand part  of the  Bill :— 
The said  proposed  Amendment  was, with leave 
of the House, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1.  14,  by inserting, 
after  the  word  "employments,"  the words  "in 
the same trade."—(Mr.  Car Hie.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted in the Bill :—It passed 
in the Negative. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p. 1,1.  16,  by inserting  at 
the end thereof the words— 

"  (3) The Board  of Trade may  by Provisional 
Order  declare that this  Act  shall cease  to apply 
to  any specified  trade  to  which  it  at  the  time 
applies,  and  subject  to  the  provisions  of  this 
section  this  Act  shall  cease  to  apply  to  that 
trade  as from the date mentioned in the  Order." 
—(Sir  William Bull.) 

And the Question being proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted  in the Bill:—The said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p. 5,1.  13,  by inserting  at 
the  beginning  the  words  "  In  the  case  of  the 
branches  of tailoring  specified  in  the  Schedule 
to this Act."—(Sir  Charles Dilke.) 

And the Question being proposed, That those 
words be there inserted  in  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Then  another Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p. 5,  1. 30,  by leaving  out 
Clause 8.—(Mr.  Carlile.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 
words proposed to  be  left  out  stand  part of the 
Bill:—The  said proposed Amendment was, with 
leave  of the House, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p. 6,1.  19,  by inserting  at 
the end thereof  the words— 

" ( 3)  Where any minimum  rate  of  wages has 
beenfixed by a trade board, no contract involving 
employment  to  which  the  minimum  rate  is 
applicable  shall  be  given  by  a  Government 
Department  or  local  authority  to any employer 
except  on  the  condition that any work to which 
the minimum scale is applicable done  under the 
contract  shall  be  done within the United King­
dom."—(Mr.  Harry  Marks.) 

NO.  98.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

IGth—Wth 
And  the  Question  being  put,  That  those 

July 

Ordered,  That the Report  be received upon  


Monday next.  


words be there inserted  in the  Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for thefMr. Harry Marks, 

Yeas, 

(Mr. Goulding : 


Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

[Captain Norton : 

Resolved, That this  House  do now adjourn.— Adjournment. 

(Mr. Joseph  Pease.) 

} 

4 0. 

1174. 

And accordingly  the  House,  having con­

tinued  to sit  till  twelve  minutes  before  

Four of the clock, adjourned till  Monday  

next. 


So it passed  in the Negative, 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  12,  1,  18,  by adding  at 
the end thereof the words— 
" ( 5)  Shirt making." 

—(Mr.  George  Gooch.) 

And the  Question being proposed, That those 
words  be  there  added  to  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be now read  the  third 
time :—The  Bill was accordingly read the third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

[No.  99.] 

Monday,  19th July  1909. 

The House met at a quarter  of an hour  

before Three  of the clock.  


P R A Y E R S. 

THE  Manchester  Corporation  Bill  [Lords'] Manchester 

was read the third  time and passed,

 with B?UP[^» ]

Amendments. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 
the Lords ;  and acquaint them that  this  House 
hath agreed to the  same, with  Amendments;  to 
which this House doth desire the concurrence of 
their Lordships. 

Withdrawal  of 
a  Member. 

'Ordered,  That  the  entry  of  Wednesday 
14th  July  1909,  that  the  Chairman  called  the 
attention  of  the  Committee  to  the grossly dis­
orderly  conduct  of  Mr.  Thome,  Member  for 
South  West  Ham, and, in pursuance of Standing 
Order No. 20, ordered  him  to  withdraw imme­
diately from the House during the remainder of 
that day's Sitting, and that  he withdrew accord­
ingly,  be  expunged  from  the  Journals  of  the 
House.—(The  Prime Minister.) 

Ordered,  That the Westminster City Council 

Westminster 
(Superannuation, &c.) Bill [Lords]  be read  the City  Council 
(Superannua 
third time to-morrow.  	
tion,  &c.) 
BiU  [Lords.'] 

The House proceeded to take into considera-Alexandra 
(Newport  and 
tion the Alexandra (Newport and South Wales) South  Wales) 
Docks and Railway Bill  [Lords]. 

Docks  and 
Railway  Bill 
Ordered, That the Bill be read the third time. 
[Lords.] 

Public Works
Loans
[Remission.]

  The House, according to Order, resolved itself 
into  a  Committee  on  Public  Works  Loans 
^ K e m i s s i o n ] . 

(In the Committee.) 

Resolved, That  it  is  expedient  to  authorise 
the remission  of  a debt due to the Public Works 
Loan  Commissioners,  in  pursuance  of  any  Act 
of  the  present  Session  to  grant money for  the 
purpose of certain Local  Loans out of  the Local 
Loans Fund, and for other  purposes  relating  to 
Local  Loans.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Resolution  to  be reported. 

The House proceeded  to take  into  considera-Alliance and 
tion  the  Alliance  and  Dublin  Consumers  Gas  Q0urJ>s1l^erg Gag 
Bill [Lords],  as amended in the Committee. 

Biij [Lords,] 

A Clause (Excluding certain parts  of County 
Wickiow  from  limits  of  supply)  was twice 
read; and made part  of the Bill. 

And Amendments were made  to the Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time. 

The House proceeded  to take into  considera-Collooney, 
tion  the  Collooney,  Ballina,  and  Belmullet  Ballina, and 
Railways  and  Piers  Bill,  as amended  in  the Baii^ayfand 
Committee. 

Piers Bill. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and Means reported, That 
the Committee had come  to a Resolution. 

Ordered, That  Standing  Orders  223 and  243 
be suspended, and that the Bill  be now read the 
third time.—(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

Ordered,  That the Report  be received  upon The Bill was accordingly read the third  time 

Monday next. 

and passed. 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 

into ,a  Committee  on Superannuation [Allow­
ances and Gratuities]. 

(In the Committee.) 
Resolved, That it  is  expedient to authorise the 
payment, out  of moneys provided by Parliament, 
of additional Allowances and Gratuities to Civil 
Servants  in  certain  cases  on  their  retirement, 
and of  Allowances  and  Gratuities  to their legal 
personal  representatives  in  case  of  death,  in 
pursuance  of any Act  of  the  present  Session  to 
amend  the  Superannuation  Acts,  1834  to 1892. 
—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Resolution  to be reported. 

Ordered, That the Dunoon Burgh Bill [Lords]  Dunoon  Burgh 

be read a second time to-morrow. 

Bn'  [Lords.] 

The Order of  the day being read, for resuming North Eastern 

the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which, 
upon  the  15th  day  of  this  instant  July,  was L  J°r 
proposed  to  be made  to  the  Question,  That  the 
North  Eastern  Railway  Bill  [Lords]  be  now 
read a second time ; 

Biu 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till to-morrow. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed the  Chair;  and the 

The Ardrossan Harbour Order Confirmation  Ardrossan 

Deputy Chairman reported, That the Committee Bill [Lords]  was, according  to  Order, read the^^Order 
had come  to a Resolution. 

BiU  [Lords.] 

third time and passed. 
R  R  4 

VOL.  164. 

Super­
annuation 
[Allow­
ances and 
Gratuities.  ] 

 
3 12 

19 th July. 

1 9 0 9.  

[No.  99. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to  Committee of Council on Education in  Scotland 

the Lords;  and acquaint them  that  this  House for  1908-9. 
hath agreed to the same, without Amendment. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Beport. 

Trade Reports
(Annual
Series.)

Several Public Petitions were presented, and 

read ; and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His Majesty's Command,—Copies  of Diplomatic 
ana  Consular Reports, Annual  Series, Nos. 4294, 
4296  to 4300, and 4302. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by His  Majesty's  Board  of 
Command,—Copy  of  Regulations applicable  to Education. 
Schools for Blind, Deaf, Defective, and Epileptic 
Children (in force from 1st September 1909). 

Mr. Runciman also presented, pursuant  to the  University  of 

directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Durham  Act, 
Statutes made  by the Commissioners under the 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie upon  the University of Durham Act, 1908. 

No. 230. 

Table. 

Colonel  Seely  presented, —  Return  to  an  University  of Durham Act,  1908,  be printed. 

Ordered, That  the said Papers do lie upon the 
Table;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  the 

Death
CrownCeSin
Colonies.

  Address  to  His Majesty, dated the  10th day of 
June last, for a Return relative  to  Death  Sen­

No. 229.

  tences in Crown Colonies. 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Light
Railways Act,  Command,—Copy  of  Order  made by the Light 

Railway  Commissioners  under  the  Light  Rail­
ways  Act,  1896, and modified and  confirmed by 
the  Board  of  Trade,  authorising  the  recon­
struction  and  working  as  a  Light  Railway  of 
certain parts of the Railways  of the Burry Port 
and  Gwendreath  Yalley  Railway  Company, in 
the  County  of  Carmarthen  (Burry  Port  and 
Gwendreath  Yalley  Railway  (Light  Kailway) 
Order,  1909). 

Light 
Copy  of  Order  made  by the  Light  Railway 
Railways Act,  Commissioners  under  the Light  Railways  Act, 
1896, and modified  and confirmed by the  Board 
of  Trade,  reviving  the  powers  granted  and 
extending  the  periods  limited  by  the  County 
of  Middlesex  Light  Railways  (Lands)  Order, 
1903, the County  of  Middlesex  Light  Railways 
Order,  1903,  and  the  County  of  Middlesex 
(Waltham  Cross  and  Enfield)  Light  Railways 
Order,  1906,  for  the  compulsory  purchase  of 
certain lands, and extending the periods  limited 
by the  last-named  Order  of  1903  for the com­
pletion  of certain of the Light Railways thereby 
authorised, and reviving the powers granted and 
extending  the  period  limited  by the said Order 
of 1906 for  the  completion  of part  of the Light 
Railway  thereby authorised (County  of  Middle­
sex Light Railways (Extension  of  Time)  Order, 
1909). 

Light 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Light  Railway 
Railways Act,  Commissioners  under  the  Light  Railways  Act, 
1896,  and  confirmed  by  the  Board  of  Trade, 
1896. 
authorising  the  abandonment  of  part  of  the 
Light  Railway  authorised  by  the  Lampeter, 
Aberayron,  and  New  Quay  Light  Railway 
Order,  1906,  and  the  substitution  of  a  new 
Railway  in  the  County  of  Cardigan,  and  for 
other purposes (Lampeter,  .Aberayron,  and New 
Quay  Light  Railway  (Amendment)  Order, 
1909). 

Light 
Copy  of  Order  made  by the  Light  Railway 
Railways Act,  Commissioners  under the  Light  Railways Act, 
1896. 
1896, and modified  and  confirmed by the Board 
of  Trade, authorising the construction  of  Light 
Railways  in  the  Urban  Districts  of  Aidershot 
and of  Farnborough,  in  the  County  of  South­
ampton, and  in the Rural District of  Farnham, in 
the  County  of  Surrey  (Aidershot  and  Farn­
borough Light Railway  Order,  1909). 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Education 
The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His 
(Scotland.)  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the 

Mr. Secretary  Gladstone presented, pursuant  Shop  Hours  


to  the  directions  of  an Act  of Parliament,— Act>1904­
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the  

Borough  of Wednesbury under the Shop  Hours  

Act,  1904,  and confirmed  by the  Secretary  of  

State  for  the  Home  Department,fixing the 

hours  of closing for certain classes of Shops.  


Ordered, That the said Paper do lie upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  High  Court  of 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  l™^;™ 1 
Account, prepared  in pursuance  of  the Supreme Appeal, &e. 
Court  of  Judicature  Act,  1875,  showing  the  No. 231. 
Receipts  and  Expenditure  in  respect  of  the 
High  Court  of  Justice  and  Court  of  Appeal 
during the year ended 31st March  1909. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon  the  


Table ;  and  be printed. 


Ordered, That  the Poor Relief  (Transfer  of  Poor Relief 
Inmates)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon £Tra"sfe,r~„ 
Inmates)  Bui. 
mi 
Ihursday  next. 

' 

1 

j 

. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon  Public Health 

Wednesday  next,  the  Public  Health  Officers Officers Bill. 
Bill was read, and discharged. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  the 16th day  of  August next. 

Mr.  Soames  reported  from  the  Committee  on Railway  Bills 

Group 5  of  Railway  Bills ;  That, for  the  con- (Group 5.) 
venience of  parties,  the  Committee had further 
adjourned  till  Tuesday  the  27th  day  of  this 
instant July,  at half  an hour after Eleven  of the 
clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the Lords  by the Lords-
one of their Clerks,  as followeth : 

The Lords  have agreed  to the Local  Govern- Local 
ment (Ireland)  Provisional  Order  (No.  3)  Bill, ^ e r°™ e nt 
without  any  Amendment. 
Provisional 
Order  (No.   3) 
Bill. 

The Lords  have agreed  to the  North  East North  East 
London Railway Bill,  without any Amendment.  Jf®,don  „.„ 
Railway  Bill. 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  London  and London and 
North  Western  Railway  Bill,  without  any ^01',fh Western 
, 
j 
. 
Amendment. 

1  Railway  Bill. 

J 

J 

J 

The Lords  have agreed  to the West  Glouces- West 
tershire Water Bill, with Amendments;  to which Gloucester-
the Lords desire the concurrence  of this House,  ^j®  Water 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments Gas Orders 

made  by  this  House  to  the  Gas  Orders 
firmation  (No.  1)  Bill  \-Lords~\,  without  any [ZoJ.«fi]  ' 
Amendment. 

 
 
 
 
 
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19$  July,  	

313 

Mr.  Wedgwood, supported  by  Mr.  Bertram Children 
Straus,  Mr. Bennett,  Dr.  Hazel,  and Mr. Hart- ^is)Bilf. 
Davies, presented a Bill  to amend the Law with  gjjj ggi 
regard  to  the  Reports  of  Trials  in  which 
Children and young persons  are  concerned, and 
for  other  purposes  connected  therewith :  And 
the same was  ordered  to  be  read a  second time 
upon Monday  next;  and to be printed. 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself Finance  Bill, 

into a Committee  on the Finance  Bill. 

The  Lords  have passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Electric 
  certain  Provisional  Orders made 
Provisf nal	
Orders (No. l)  by  the  Board  of  Trade  under  the  Electric 
BiU [Lords.]  Lighting  Acts,  1882  and  1888,  relating  to 

c o n® r m

(Extension),  Cleethorpes  (Amend­

Chesham 
ment),  Heme  Bay,  Hindhead  and  District 
(Extension),  Holsworthy,  Southampton  (Exten­
sion), Staines, Stourbridge, Turton, and Walton­
on-the-Naze;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence of  this House. 

Torquay  and 
The Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An 
Paignton 
Act  to  authorise  the  Torquay Tramways  Com-
Tramways 
Bill  fLords.]  	 pany, Limited, to construct tramways in extension 
of  the  existing  tramways  in  the  Borough  of 
Torquay,  and  for other purposes;  to which the 
Lords desire the concurrence  of this House. 

The  Lords  have  appointed  a  Committee  of 
High  Court 
of  Justice 
Five  Lords  to  join  with  a  Committee  of  this 
(King's  Bench  House  to  consider  the state  of  Business  in  the 
Division.) 
King's Bench  Division  of  the High  Court, and 
report  thereon,  and  whether  any  increase  is 
desirable  in  the  number  of  Judges  of  that 
Division ;  and to make such recommendations as 
they see  fit. 

The  Lords  have  appointed  a  Committee  of 
Stage  Plays 
(Censorship.)  Five  Lords  to  join  with  a  Committee  of  this 
House  to  inquire  into  the Censorship  of  Stage 
Plays  as constituted  by the Theatres Act,  1843, 
and into the operations  of the Acts of  Parliament 
relating  to  the  licensing  and  regulation  of 
theatres and  places of  public entertainment, and 
to report  any alterations  of  the Law  or practice 
which  may  appear  desirable,  and  propose  that 
the said Joint Committee  do meet  on Wednesday 
next  in  Committee  Boom  A,  at  One  of  the 
clock. 

Ordered, That  so  much of  the  Message from 
Stage  Plays 
(Censorship.)  the Lords  of  this day as relates  to the  place and 
time  of  meeting  of  the  Joint  Committee  on 
Stage  Plays  (Censorship)  be  now  taken  into 
consideration. 

The House accordingly proceeded to take that 

part of the said Message into consideration. 

Ordered, That  the  Committee  of  this  House 
do  meet the  Lords'  Committee  as  proposed  by 
their Lordships. 

Ordered,  That  a  Message  be  sent  to  the 
Lords  to  acquaint  them  that  this  House  hath 
directed the Committee appointed  by this House 
to  join  with  the  Committee  appointed  by  the 
Lords  on  Stage  Plays (Censorship)  to meet the 
Committee  appointed  by  their  Lordships  in 
Committee  Room  A  on  Wednesday  next,  at 
One  of  the  clock,  as  proposed  by  their Lord­
ships :  And  that  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  said 
Message.—(Mr. Joseph Pease.) 

The  Electric  Lighting  Provisional  Orders 

Electric 
Lighting 	
Provisional 
Orders (No. l)  Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
BiU [Lords.] Examiners  of  Petitions  for Private  Bills;  and 

(No.  1) Bill [Lords Jwas read the first time. 

Bill 279.	  be printed. 

The  Torquay  and  Paignton  Tramways  Bill 

Torquay and 
Paignton	 
Tramways	 
Bill [Lords.]  Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

[Lords]  was read thefirst time. 
L 

J 

Examiners  of Petitions for Private Bills. 

Bank Holidays  Ordered, That the Bank  Holidays Bill  be read 

a second time to-morrow. 

Mr.  Wedgwood,  supported  by  Mr.  Hart-
Cruelty  to 
Women  Bill.  	 Davies and Dr.  Rutherford, presented  a  Bill  to 
Bill 280. 	 make  further  provision  for  the  protection  of 
certain  Women  from  Cruelty,  and  for  other 
purposes  connected  therewith:  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday next;  and to be printed. 

VOL.  164. 

(In the Committee.) 
Clause  No.  6  (Collection  and  recovery  of 
duty in case  of property held by bodies corporate 
or unincorporate). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  5,  1.  38,  after 
the word "  shall,"  to insert the words "  except in 
the  case  of  reversionary  interests, in  respect  of 
which increment  duty shall not  be payable until 
the  same  reversion  falls into possession."—(Mr. 
Joynson-Hicks.)

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 5,1. 39, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "  fourteen,"  in  order  tc 
insert  the  words  "  twenty-four." —  (Mr.  James 
Hope.)

Question	  put,  That  the  word  " fourteen" 

stand part  of the Clause. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for theJ Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas,	 

ICaptain Norton  : 

Tellers for the/ Mr. James  Hope, 

\ oiq 
J 
"(  ^ 

Noes,	 

[Mr. Leverton  Harris :  J 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 5,  1. 40, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "fifteenth,"  in  order  to 
insert  the  word  "  thirtieth."  —  (Mr.  Evelyn
Cecil.) 

Question  put,  That  the  word  " fifteenth" 

stand part of the Clause. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for thefMr. Joseph Pease, 
"(Captain Norton : 

Yeas,	 

Tellers for the fMr. Evelyn  Cecil, 

Noes,	 

I Mr. Laurence Hardy : 

J-  2 17 

1  71. 
f 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  5,  1. 40, 
at  the  end,  to  insert  the  words  "except  upon 
land  or any interest  in land in  respect  of  which 
there  has  been  an  occasion  on which  increment 
value  duty has  been  due  under  section  four  of 
this  Act  within  the  preceding fifteen years."— 
(Mr. Pretyman.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the[ S i r^ / (? W cr  Acland~ 
.

1 
[Viscount  Valentia  : 

Yeas	 
' 

Hood>

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease,
[ Captain Norton  : 

Noes,	 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 

to leave out from the word "  April"  to the word 
"and,"  in 1. 5.—(Sir  Edward Carson.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to  be left out stand part of the Clause:—Amend­
ment, by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  6,  1. 5, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  interest"  to  the 
end of subsection (2).—(Sir  Edward Carson.) 

Question proposed, That the words  propoeed 

to be left out stand part of the Clause:—Amend­
ment,  by leave, withdrawn. 
An Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  6,1.  10, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  to "  to  the word 
"  twenty,"  in 1. ] ].—(Mr.  Cave.) 

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314 

July. 

1909.  [No. 99. 

Question proposed, That the words  proposed The  Committee  divided. 

to be left out stand part of the Clause:—Amend- Tellers for the fMr. Joseph  Pease, 
ment, by leave, withdrawn. 

(Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Question put, That  the Clause,  as  amended,  Tellers for the/ Mr.  George  Faber, 

stand part  of the Bill. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for thej Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
I Captain  Norton : 

,v  fSir Alexander Acland-


m ii 
Tellers for the I  H o o d> 

Yeas, 
c 

Noes, 

[Viscount  Valentia: 

Noes, 

\Captain  Craig : 

Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer  rose in  his 
place  and  claimed  to move, That  the Question, 
That  the  words  of  the  Clause  to  the  word 
"  total,"  in p.  6,1.  40,  stand  part  of  the Clause, 
be now put. 

|  266. 

98. 

[  194. 

82. 


/ 

Clause No. 7 (Reversion duty). 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  6,  1. 32,  to  leave 
out  the words "  any lease of,'  in order  to insert 
the  words  "the  lease  of  any  land  other  than 
agricultural."—(Viscount Castlereagh.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "any 
lease "  stand  part  of  the Clause :—Amendment, 
by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 6,1.  32, 
after  the  word  "land,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  granted  after  the  thirtieth  day  of  April nine­
teen hundred and nine."—(Mr.  Lane-Fox.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be there 

inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Remnant, 
1 Mr.  Ridsdale : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

f 

} 

91. 

260. 

Noes, 

(Captain  Norton : 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 6,1.  32, 
after  the  word  "  land,"  to  insert  the  words 
"other  than  a  mining  lease."—(Mr.  Laurence 
Hardy.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted : 

Tuesday, 20th July  1909 : 

Question put. 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Laurence  Hardy,

Yeas, 

(Mr. Lambton : 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
I Captain  Norton  : 

Noes, 

98. 

231. 

Mr. Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose in  his 
place and  claimed  to  move, That  the Question, 
That the words of the Clause  to the word "  ten," 
in  p. 6,1.  36, stand  part  of  the  Clause,  be now 
put. 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
words of  the Clause to  the word "  ten,"  in p. 6, 
1. 36, stand part of the Clause, be now put. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

, 

(Captain  Norton: 
,,  (Sir  Alexander Acland-

Tellers for the) •s  Hood, 

Noes, 

(Viscount Valentia : 

206. 

90. 

Question put  accordingly, That  the words  of 
the  Clause  to  the  word  "  ten,"  in  p.  6,  1.  36, 
stand part  of the Clause. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr. Joseph Pease, 
(Captain  Norton : 
f Sir A lexander Acland- 1 

Yeas, 
„ 

1 
J 

„ 

Tellers for the 
Noes, 

H g o d> 

|Viscount  Valentia-.  J 

216. 

I  91. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 6,1.  36, 
to  leave out  the  word "  ten,"  in order  to insert 
the word "hundred."—(Mr.  George Faber.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the Question put 

words of  the Clause  to the word "total,"  in p. 6, 
1. 40, stand part of the Clause, be now put.

0f Debate.) 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 
r 

]
(Sir Edward  Strachey -. J 
fSir Alexander  Acland-

m u 
Tellers for the 1  H o  < 

177. 

81. 

Noes, 

[ Viscount  Valentia  : 

Question put  accordingly, That  the  words of 
the  Clause  to  the  word  "total,"  in  p.  6,  1.  40, 
stand part of the Clause. 

\ jgg  

j 
1 
/ 


81. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the/Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

(Sir  Edward  Strachey : 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

|_Lord Balcarres: 
Another Amendment  proposed, in  p.  6,1.  41, 
after the word "  determines,'  to insert the words 
"  and subject  to the deduction  of any part  of the 
total value  as  is  attributable  to  any works of  a 
permanent character executed  by the lessor, and 
all  compensation  payable by such  lessor  at  the 
determination  of  the said lease."—(Mr.  Joynson-
Hicks. ) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

An Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 6,  1. 41, 
after the words last inserted,  to insert the words 
"  and  after  deducting  any mortgage  or  incum­
brance  bon& fide created  prior  to  the  thirtieth 
day  of  April  nineteen  hundred  and  nine;"— 
(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr.  Salter, 

) 

Yeas, 

| Viscount  Castlereagh  :  j  


65. 

Tellers for the ( Captain  Norton, 

) 
( Sir Edward Strachey :  ) 

Noes, 

162. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 6,1. 41, 
to  leave  out from  the first word  "  the "  to  the 
word  "  but,"  in p. 7,  1.  1, in order  to  insert  the 
words "  total  value  of  the  land  at  the  time  of 
the original grant of  the  lease to  be ascertained 
on the basis of  the rent reserved  and  payments 
made  in  consideration  of  the  lease.'  —  (Mr. 
Attorney  General.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the words  proposed 

to be left out stand part of the Clause : 

Captain  Craig moved, That the Chairman  do  Chairman 
report Progress, and ask leave to sit again;  but declines to 
the Chairman, being of opinion that the  Motion 
was an abuse of the Rules of  the House, declined (Abuse  of 
to propose  the Question thereupon  to the  Com- Biles.) 
mittee. 

Question, That the words proposed  to  be left 
out stand part  of the Clause, put, and negatived. 

Question  put,  That  the  word  "  t e n"  stand 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be there 

part  of  the  Clause. 

inserted: 





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315 

Amendment  proposed  to the  proposed  Amend­
ment,  to  leave  out  all  the  words  after  the first 
word  "  lease."—(Mr.  James  Hope.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 
left  out  stand part of  the  proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the fMr.  Joseph  Pease, 
1  Captain  Norton : 
Tellers  for  thefMr.  James Hope, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

[Mr.  Salter: 

138. 

63. 

Another  Amendment proposed  to the proposed 
Amendment,  at  the  end, to  add  the  words  "  in 
addition  to  the  reversionary  value  of  the  land." 
—(Viscount  Castlereagh.) 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Chairman  do  report  Progress,  and  ask leave 
to  sit  again  —  (Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain) : — 
Debate  arising; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question 
be  now  put. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question he  now  put.
The  Committee  divided.

Tellers  for the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers  for  the f 
Noes, 

Alexander  Acland-

Hood, 	

' [Viscount  Valentia : 

129. 

57. 

  Question put 
s!o.r(31osure° 
ot'  Debate.) 

Question put, That those words  be there added 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Chairman 

to  the  proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Yeas, 

I Sir  Samuel  Scott:  


Tellers for  the | Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Tellers for the j Viscount  Cnstlereagh,  } 61. 
Question  put,  That  those  words  
 }», 

I Captain  Norton:  


Noes, 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

[Captain  Norton  : 

do  report  Progress,  and ask leave  to  sit  again. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  thefMr.  Henry  Forster, 

Yeas, 

\ Lord  Balcarres : 
Tellers  for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Captain  Norton : 

58. 

128. 

be  there 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  Clause,  as 
amended,  stand  part  of  the  Bill  : —  Debate 
arising  ; 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now  put. 

132. 

m  ii 
Tellers  for  the I 

p  m  (Sir  Alexander  Acland-
„ 
, 
<  Hood, 

w 

59. 

Viscount  Valentia: 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question, 
That  the  words  of  the  Clause  to  the  end  of  p.  7, 
1. 4,  stand part of  the  Clause, be now  put. 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
words  of  the  Clause  to  the  end  of  p.  7,  1.  4, 
stand  part  of  the  Clause,  be  now  put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for thefMr.  Joseph  Pease, 
I Captain  Norton : 
^jiej'Sir  Alexander  Acland-

Yeas, 

Tellers  for 
JNoes, 

H g o dj 

,  
(Viscount  Valentia 

130. 

60. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words  of 
the  Clause  to  the  end  of  p.  7,1. 4,  stand  part  of 
the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for  the fMr.  Joseph Pease, 
(Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  the (Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Pike  Pease: 

1134. 

|  59. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in 

7,  1.  4, 
at the  end, to  add the words "  and where,  at any 
time  during  the  continuance  of  the  lease,  the 
lessee  has  had  an  option  of  purchasing  the 
lessor's interest, the value of the benefit accruing 
to  the lessor  shall  not  be  deemed  to  be  greater 
than  the  amount  by  which  the  purchase  money 
fixed  under  the  option  exceeds  the  value  of  the 
consideration for  the original grant of  the  lease." 
—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be

  there 

added. 

The  Committee  divided. 

m  ii 
,, 
Tellers for the I   ^  ^ 

(Sir  Alexander  Acland-

1 

57. 

leas, 

[Viscount  Valentia : 

Tellers for thefMr. Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

[Captain  Norton  : 

132. 

Question  proposed,  That 
amended,  stand part of  the  Bill:  


the  Clause,  as 


VOL.  164.  


Question  put,  That  the  Question  be  now  put.  Question put 
(pursuant  to 
The  Committee  divided.  	
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 
Tellers for  the fMr.  Joseph  Pease, 
[Captain  Norton : 

1117. 

Yeas, 
Tellers  for th 
Noes 
' 

Alexander  Acland-


. 

I 
[Viscount  Valentia : 

' 

I
f  49. 


Question  put accordingly,  That  the  Clause,  as 

amended,  stand  part  of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton  : 

Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

( Lord  Balcarres  : 

120. 

49. 

To  report  Progress, and  ask leave to sit  again. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may  have leave  to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read, for  taking Labour 
into  consideration  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill,  Exchanges, 
as amended  in the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Bil1' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Buildings and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Buildings  and  Engineer- Engineering
Works Bill. 
ing  W o r ks  B i l l; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order of the day being  read, for resuming  Cinemato­
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed graph  Bill, 
upon  the  21st  day of April  last,  That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  f or  t he  Established 

Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church  9i?rch 
(Wales)  Bill; 

(Wales)  Bill. 

S  8  2 

316 

\9th—20th  July. 

1909. 

[No. 99. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking London 

upon  Monday  next. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Amendment  which, 
upon  the  20th  day  of  April last,  was proposed  to 
be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the  Houses  of 
Parliament  Bill  be  now  read  a second  time  ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

Places of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill   A c t i o ns  Bill, 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee)  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking Marine 
into  consideration  the  Marine  Insurance  (Gam- J°sur?°Pe 
bling  Policies)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing  poHdes^Bill. 
Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  Land 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Committee  on  the  Irish  Land  Bui;  

Bill. 

upon  Monday  next. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  upon  Friday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Election  of 
Aldermen  in  Second  Reading  of  the  Election  of  Aldermen  in 
Municipal 
Boroughs Bill.  Municipal  Boroughs  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Supply.  » 

Committee  of  Supply; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Wednes­
day  next,  resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Check- 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
weighing  in  Second Reading  of  the  Checkweighing in various 
various 
Industries  Bill.  i n C i u S t l l eS

Tnrliistripes  B i ll  • 
'
m n  

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Ways and 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means  ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will, upon  Wednes­
day  next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Dublin Police 
Bi]I- 

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the  Dublin  Police  Bill; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Secretary  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board  t ba  .Bo&rfl of 
of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill; 

an^FishSes 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  Bill> 

upon  Monday  next. 

this  day. 

Lunacy 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Works 

Committee  on  the  Public  Works  Loans  Bill;  

L o a ns  B i lL 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

upon  Monday  next. 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Local  Government 

Local 
Government  Second  Reading  of 
itcoimte) 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill  ; 
(Ireland) Bill.  Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking   Board of Trade 

into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as  Bill, 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

upon  Monday  next. 

sideration  this  day. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-
gages  Bill; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Milk  and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Milk  and  Dairies  Bill;   Dairies  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of the  day being read, for receiving   Public  Works 

Assistant 
Postmaster 
General  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 
G e n e r al   Bill  ; 

the  Report 
Works  Loans  [Remission]   ; 

from  the  Committee   on  Public  Loans 

[Remission.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  this 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

day. 

upon  Monday  next. 

Merchandise 
Marks 
(Ireland)BUI. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Merchandise  Marks 
( I r e l a n d  )  Bill; 

The Order  of  the  day being read, for  receiving   Super-
the  Report  from  the  Committee  on  Superannua-  annuation 
tion  [Allowances  and  Gratuities]  ; 
anceTand 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  this  Gratuities.] 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

day. 

upon  Monday  next. 

^Fisheries 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
.(Ireland)  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Fisheries  (Ireland)  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  inland 
Revenue  B i l l; 

Revenue B,li. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, &c. 
Bill; 

.
Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Wednes­
day  next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

NO. 99.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

1 9$ - 2 0$  July. 

31? 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
Telegraph 
(Arbitration)   j n t  o  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee) ; 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Bule 

into  consideration  the  Rule  Committee  Bill,  as  Committee 
amended  in the  Standing  Committee  ; 

1  ' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Wednesday  next. 

sideration  upon  Friday  next. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

The  Order of  the day being read,  for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  on  Irish  Land 
[Advances,  &c.]  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  Local 
into  consideration  the  Local  Education  Autho-  f^^itiea 
rities  (Medical  Treatment)  Bill  (not  amended  in  (Medical 
the  Standing  Committee)  ; 

Treatment) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con- BlU' 

sideration  this  day. 

Trustees' 
Accounts Bill.  Third  Reading  of  the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the  third  time 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking  Bishopric  of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield  Sheffield Bill. 
Bill,  as amended  in the  Standing  Committee; 

upon  Friday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
t he   Bridgend  (Hope  English 

Bridgend 
Ba°tPistEDgliSh  T l l i rd  R e a d i n £   o f 
Chapel, &c.)  Baptist  Chapel, &c.)  Charity  Bill; 
Charity  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the  third  time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Remission of 
S u r c h a r g es  S u r c h a r g e^ 

Committee  on  the  Remission  of 
(Dublin)  (recommitted)  Bill; 

(Dublin)  Bill. 

upon  Friday  next. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the  said  Committee. 

John 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Charity  Bill.

T h i rd
Bill; 

f a d i n  g  of  John  Marshall's  Charity 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Lichfield and 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Congregational  Third  Reading  of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon 
lrust  Property 
Chapels  and  Congregational  Chapels  and 
Trust Property  Charity  Bill; 
Chanty  Bi 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the  third  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Dewsbury 
and Batley 
Congregational 
Chapel 
Charities Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
- •
~~ 
t he   Dewsbury  and  Batley 

T 
T h i r  d  R e a d i ng   o f 
Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill; 

_ 

-

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the third time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Wortley 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Congregational Third  Reading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational 
Charity  Bill.  Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Oaths Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Anaesthetics 

Second  Reading  of  the  Anaesthetics  Bill; 

Bl11, 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Cottage Homes 

Second  Reading  of 
* 
Aged  Persons  B d l; 

i  r-\ 

t» .n 

the  Cottage  Homes  for  f°r  AgedD.„ 

' 

x ersons -Dili. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Territorial 
Second  Reading of  the  Territorial  Army  Ballot   Army  B a l l ot 
Bill;  

BllL 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Union  officers 
Second Reading  of  the  Union  Officers (Ireland)  (Ireland)  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap Trains 

Second  Reading  of  the  Cheap  Trains  Bill;  

BIU-

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  further 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Health 

consideration  upon  Thursday  next. 

Under  Sheriffs  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
(County  
j n t  o  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs  (County 
(Ireland) Bill.  Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

Temperance 
(Scotland)  

1  ' 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
j n t  o  consideration  the  Temperance  (Scotland) 
Bill,  as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee ; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Friday  the  13th  day  of  August 
next. 

Handloom 
Weaving  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being read, for  taking 
i n t  o  c o n sia e ration  the  Handloom  Weaving  Bill, 
as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon Friday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  A ct   f  c  t  ( 1 8 7 5) 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

fwater 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time EiShts>  BilL 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Post Office 

Second  Reading  of  the  Post  Office  (Lotteries  ^°" eu
and  Obscene  Matter)  Bill; 

ries  a nd 
Matter)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Municipal 
Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Corporations Corporations 
$clergymen) 
(Qualification  of  Clergymen)  Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time  B m  llords-'] 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 

Second  Reading  of the Dogs'  Protection  Bill;  

Protection 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

8  S  3 

 
 
318 

\9th—20th  July. 

1909. 

[No. 100. 

Wild  Birds 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection 
Bill  j 

Ordered, That  the  Bijl  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven   of 
the  clock 
on  Monday  evening,  Mr. 
Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without 
Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing 
Order, it  being  then  three  minutes  before 
Six  of  the  clock  on  Tuesday  morning,  till 
this  day. 

S T A N D I NG  C O M M I T T E E S. 

Distribution  by  Mr. Speaker, pursuant  to  Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,   of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

Name of  Bill. 

Metropolitan  Ambulances  Bill 

[No.  100.] 

Tuesday, 20th July 1909. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented, pursuant  to the direc"  Superannua­
tions of an A ct  of  Parliament,—Copy  of Treasury  tion-Act,  1884., 
Minute  under  the  Superannuation  Act,  1884, 
dated  17th  July  1909,  declaring  that  Miss  Mary 
Carey,  Telegraphist,  Post  Office, was  appointed 
through 
without  a  Civil  Service  Certificate 
inadvertence  on  the  part  of  the  head  of  her 
Department. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper   do  lie  upon  the. 

Table. 

The  Order  made  on  the  19th  day  of  this  High  Court  of 

instant  July,  That  the  Paper  presented   on  the  Justice  and 
19th day of  this instant July, relative  to the  High  App^aif &c. 
Court  of  Justice  and  Court of  Appeal,  &c.,   do 
lie  upon  the  Table,  and  be  printed,  was read, and 
discharged. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  be  withdrawn. 

—(Mr.  Hobhouse.) 

Sir Joseph  Leese  reported  from the  Committee   Selection 
of  Selection;  That  they  had  added   to  Standing  (Standing 
Committee  A  the following  Fifteen  Members  (in 
respect  of  the  Metropolitan  Ambulances  B i l l ):   Committee  A. 
— Sir  William  Collins,  Sir  Walter  Foster,  Mr. Metropolitan 
Dickinson,  Mr.  Bertram  Straus,  Mr.  Stephen  Ambulances 
Collins,  Dr.  Cooper,  Dr.  Rutherford,  Colonel 
Lockwood,  Mr.  Rupert  Guinness,  Sir  Samuel 
Scott,  Sir  John  Batty  Tuke,  Dr.  Ambrose,  Mr. 
Jeremiah  MacVeagh,  Mr.  Steadman,  and  Mr. 
Bowerman. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

The  House  met  at  a quarter  of  an  hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

Table. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Westminster  TH E  Westminster  City  Council 

(Superan-
City  Council 
nuation,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords]  was,  according   to 
(Superannua­
tion,  &c.)  Bill  Order,  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with 
[Lords.'] 

Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  with  Amendments;  to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

Dunoon Burgh  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the 
Bill  [Lords.]  Second  Reading  of 
the  Dunoon  Burgh  Bill 
[Lords']  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

North  Eastern 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being read, for  resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the Amendment  which, 
upon  the  15th  day  of  this  instant  July,  was 
proposed  to  be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the 
North  Eastern  Railway  Bill  [Lords]   be  now 
read  a second  time  ; 

Ordered, That the Debate   be further adjourned 

till  Thursday  next. 

Lune  Fisheries  The  Lune  Fisheries  Provisional  Order  Bill 
according  to  Order,  read  a second  time,  and 
Provisional 
. .. 
Order  Bill. 

° 

-i 
committed. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read  ;  and ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy   of  Diplomatic 
and  Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  No.  4291. 
Treaty  Series 
Copy  of  Treaty  between  the  United  Kingdom 
(No. 19,1909.) a n ( j  Siam.  Signed  at  Bangkok,  10th  March 
(Ratifications  exchanged  at  London, 

1909. 
9th  July  1909.)  With  Map. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Sir  Francis  Channing  reported  from  Standing  Electric 

' 

Committee  C,  to  whom  the  Electric  Lighting   Lighting  Acts 
Acts  (Amendment)  Bill  [Lords]  was  referred ; ^in  f z t ^? 
Mra3-i 
That  they  had  gone  through  the  Bill  and  made   1 
Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the  No.  231. 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

Ordered, That  the Minutes of  the  Proceedings  No. 231. 

of  the  Standing  Committee  be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee, be  taken  into  consideration 
upon  Monday  n e x t;  and   be  printed. 

jim  282. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a   Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by  t he   Lords, 
one  of  their  Clerks,  as  followeth  : 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Folkestone,  Folkestone, 

Sandgate,  and  Hythe  Tramways  Bill,  without   Sandgate, 
S L w ^  s 
any  Amendment. 
Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Pier  and  Har-   Pier  and 
bour  Provisional  Orders  (No.   2)  Bill,  with  an Harbour 
Amendment  ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  OrdTrs(jro  2) 
concurrence  of  this  House. 

Bill. 
The Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Gas  Provisional  Gas 

Order  Bill,  with  Amendments;   to  which  the 
Lords  desire  the  concurrence   of this  House. 

Order  Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Oxford  and  Oxford  and 

District  Tramways  Bill,  with  Amendments  ;   to  district 
which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence   of  this  BHL"™^ 
House. 

The  Lords  have agreed   to the Derwent  Valley   Derwent 
Water  Board  Bill,  with  Amendments;   to  which  B ^ B i l f *  * 
the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence   of  this  House. 

1  ' 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Swinton  and  Swinton  and 
Mexborough  Gas Board  Bill, with Amendments  ;  G® sx^r°jgh 
to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence   of BUI.
this  House. 

°ar 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Pontypridd  Pontypridd 
Water  Bill,  with  Amendments;   to  which  the  W a t e r B m -
Lords  desire  the  concurrence   of this  House. 

No. 100.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

20th  July. 

319 

Great 
Yarmouth 
'Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.} 

Southend-
on-Sea 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Great  Yarmouth 
Corporation  Bill  [Lords],  without  any  Amend­
ment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Southend-on-Sea 
Corporation  Bill  [Lords],  without  any  Amend­
ment. 

Ordered, That  the  Amendment  made  by  the 
Pier and
Lords  to  the  Pier  and  Harbour  Provisional 
Provisional
Orders (No.  2) Orders  (No.  2)  Bill  be taken  into  consideration 
Bill.

to-morrow. 

Gas 
Provisional 
Order  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Amendments  made  by  the 
Lords to the Gas  Provisional Order  Bill  be taken 
into  consideration  to-morrow. 

Bail way  Bills 
(Group  S.); 

Sir  George  Doughty  reported  from  the  Com­
mittee  on  Group  6  of  Railway  Bills;  That, for 
the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Thursday  next,  at  half  an  hour 
after Eleven  of  the  clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Order  for  taking  into  consideration,  to­
morrow,  the  Licensed  Premises  (Election  Days) 

Licensed
Premises
i®'®^","  .
vaya)  Closing
Bill.

  Closing  Bill,  as amended  in  the  Standing  Co'm­
J I -I 

, 
mittee,  was  read,  and  discharged. 

° 

. 

j

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Thursday  next. 

Privilege 
(Intervention 
of  Peers at 
Parliamentary 
Elections.) 

Complaint  made  by  Mr.  Dillon,  Member  for 

East  Mayo,  that  the  Duke  of  Norfolk  had  con­
cerned  himself  in the  Election  of  a  Member  to 
the  House  of  Commons  for the  County of  Derby 
(High  Peak  Division). 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being 
proposed, That, it having  been represented to this 
House that  the Duke  of  Norfolk  did infringe  the 
liberties  and  privileges  of  this  House  by  con­
cerning  himself  in  the  Election  of  a Member  to 
represent  the  County  of  Derby  (High  Peak 
Division)  in  the  Commons,  the  Committee  of 
Privileges  do inquire into the said  alleged  breach 
of privilege—(Mr.  Dillon); 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
"  That "  to  the  end  of  the  Question,  and  adding 
the  words  " this  House  do  now  proceed  to  the 
Orders  of  the  day"—(Mr.  Bottomley),—instead 
thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the 
Question  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for  the/Captain  Donelan, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

\ Mr. Patrick  O'Brien  : 

1   91(!
f 
t 
(Mr.  Samuel Roberts:  J 

62. 

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Bottomley, 

So it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 
And  the  Main  Question  being  put; 
Resolved, That, it  having  been  represented  to 
this House that the Duke of  Norfolk  did infringe 
the  liberties  and  privileges  of  this  House  by 
concerning  himself  in  the  Election  of  a  Member 
to  represent  the  County  of  Derby  (High  Peak 
Division)  in  the  Commons,  the  Committee  of 
Privileges  do inquire  into the said alleged  breach 
of  privilege. 

Finance  Bill. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  resolved itself 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  8  (Exemptions  from  reversion 

duty,  and  allowances). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  7,  1. 5,  to  leave 
out  the  word  "  Where."—(Earl  of  Ronaldshay.) 
Question  put,  That  the  word  "  Where "  stand 

part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton: 

Tellers  for  the  ( Earl of  Ronaldshay, 

Noes, 

j  Mr.  George  Faber  : 

)  270 
j 
) 
j 

^ 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question, 
That  the  words  of  the  Clause  to  the  word 
"  thirty,"  in  p.  7,1.  9, stand  part of  the  Clause, 
be now  put. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the  Question put 
words  of  the  Clause  to  the  word  "thirty,"  in  ^ c W e  ° 
p.  7,1.  9, stand  part  of  the  Clause,  be now  put.  of  Debate.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the f Mr.  Joseph Pease,
(Captain  Norton  :

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the I 
Noes,  

J ™  ^
| M r  H*nry  porster:

] 
J 

j 
J 

9 8 . 

'  Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words  of 
the  Clause to  the  word  "thirty,"  in  p.  7,1.  9, 
stand  part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 


Tellers  for  the 

^exander 

Acland­

6  Noes* 
' 

I   H " " d ' 
[Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

9, to 
insert 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 7,1 
leave  out the  word  "  thirty,"  in  order  to 
the  word  "  sixty."—(Mr.  Radford.)

Question  put,  That  the  word  "  thirty  "  stand 

part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  George  Roberts,  | 
|
\  319. 
\ 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
1 Captain  Norton  : 

(  Mr.  Parker: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

57. 

Question  put,  That  the word " s i x t y"   be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Viscount  Morpeth, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Lane-Fox: 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton : 

96. 

277. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  7,  1. 9, 
in lieu  of  the  word  "  thirty'  left  out,  to  insert 
the  word  " f o r t y . " — ( M r.  Chancellor   of  the 
Exchequer.) 

Question  put,  'That the word " forty " be there 

inserted. 

254. 

94 

)  
j 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
( Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  the  (  Mr.  George  Roberts, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Parker: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  7,1.  11, 
at the  end,  to  insert  the  words  "  No  reversion 
duty  shall  be  charged  on the  determination  of a 
lease  where  the  owner of  the  reversion  demises 
the  premises  included  in  the  lease  on  the  same 
terms  and  conditions  as  are  contained  in  the 
lease  which  has determined,  and  without  receiv­
ing  any fine or any  other  consideration  for  such 
demise."—(Sir  Edward  Carson.) 

VOL.  164. 

3 9  4 

 
 
 
 
 
 


Question  put,-  That  those  words  be  there 

in p.  7,1.  20, stand  part  of  the  Clause, be  now  S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 
p u t. 

20th—21st July. 	

1909. 

[No. 100. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the/ Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

54. 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton  : 

J  212. 

Tellers for  th
Noes 
' 

J 

^	

  Alexander  Acland-

1  Hood, 
[Viscount  Valentia: 

241. 

101. 

}

] 
V 
I 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for  th 
Yeas 
I e a s ' 

i 
I Mr.Pike  Pease-. 
Tellers  for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Alexander  Acland-
Hood, 

Noes, 

(Captain  Norton: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  7,  1. 11, 
at  the end,  to  insert  the  words  "  and  this  sub­
section  shall apply  to  such  reversions  mortgaged 
or  charged  before the  said  date for  more  than a 
nominal amount  as if  they  had been  purchased." 
—(Lord  Robert Cecil.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  : 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 
Chairman  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to 
sit again. —(Viscount  Helmsley.) 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the  j Viscount  Helmsley,  

( Lord  Robert  Cecil: 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

I Captain  Norton: 

Original  Question  put 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Lord  Robert  Cecil, 

Yeas, 

|  Viscount  Helmsley : 

Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

{ Captain  Norton  : 

J  70. 

|  252. 

}  78. 

|  274. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  7,  1. 13, 
after  the  word  "lease,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  unless  the  benefit accruing  to  the  lessor  shall 
exceed  ten  per  cent,  of  the  total  value  of  the 
land  at  the  time of granting  of  the  lease, or  on 

•	  a lease."—(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  [ Mr. Joynson-Hicks, 

Yeas, 

(  Mr. Lane-Fox: 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton: 

96. 

) 
j 
)  291. 
J 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  7,  1. 13, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  twenty-one,"  in  order 
insert  the  word  "thirty."—(Mr.  George
to 
Faber.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "  twenty-
one "  stand  part  of  the  Clause  : —  Debate 
arising; 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  rose in  his  place  and 
Closure 
claimed, but 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
withholds his  put  "> hut the  Chairman  withheld his assent, and 
declined  then  to  put  that  Question,  as  he 
assent, and 
that  the  Committee  was prepared  very 
gives a Reason, 
shortly  to  come  to  a  decision  without  that 
Motion:—Debate  resumed. 

flight 

Question  put,  That  the  words  "  twenty-one  " 

stand  part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  George  Faber, 
( Mr .Joynson-Hicks: 

Noes, 

) 
j

256. 

^ 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
words of  the  Clause  to  the  second  word  "  the," 
in  p.  7,1.  20, stand  part  of  the  Clause,  be  now 
put. 

Question put 
Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
(pursuant to  w o r ( j s   0 f  the  Clause  to  the  second  word  "  the," 

Wednesday, 2lst  July  1909: 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words of 
the  Clause  to  the  second  word  "  the,"  in  p.  7, 
1. 20, stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 
( Captain  Norton:  


Yeas, 

Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Henry  Forster,  


Noes, 

{  Lord  Balcarres : 

}  246. 

99, 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Chairman  do report  Progress,  and  ask  leave 
to  sit  again—(Mr.  Balfour)  :—Debate  arising  ; 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

Question  put, That  the  Question  be  now  put.  Question put 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 
(Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

^O^Ctosure 
of  Debate  > 

]  „„„  
/ 

Tellers for  thA®*  Alexander  Acland- 1 
S o o d>  

1   .	
[Viscount  Valentia: 

Noes 
' 

J 

r 1 0 2


' 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Chairman 

do  report  Progress,  and  ask leave  to  sit  again. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Yeas, 

( Lord  Balcarres  :  

Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

( Captain  Norton: 

|  104. 

J  220. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  7,1.  20, 
to leave  out  from  the  word  "  title "  to  the  word 
"  the,"  in  1. 22.—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words "  the  term  of 

which  extends "  stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
I Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

191. 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Watson Rutherford,  )  gg

Noes, 

1 Mr.  James Hope: 

J 

Another  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  7,  to 

leave  out  Is.  26 and  27.—(Mr.  Remnant.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left out  stand part of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  { Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
( Captain  Norton  :  


Yeas, 

|  174. 

Tellers  for the  j Mr.  Remnant, 

)


Noes, 

( Mr. Harmood-Banner:  }  


Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  7,  1. 27, 

at the  end, to insert the  words— 

" ( 4  )  Where  any  part  of  the  benefit  accruing 
to  a  lessor  is  due  to  any  increase  in  the  site 
value  of  the  land,  no  reversion  duty  shall  be 
charged  on  that  part  of  the  site  value  which 
has  accrued  before  the  thirtieth  day  of  April 
nineteen hundred  and  nine."—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words   be 

there 

inserted. 

 


No. 100.]  9  EDW.  YII. 

The  Committee  divided. 

20th—21st July. 

y 

83. 

e a s  ' 

Tellers for  thej  S i r  ^  W e  r  A c l a n d '  1 
> 
<  Hood, 
J
[Viscount  Valentia : 
\ 164.
J 

Tellers  for the ("Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton  : 
Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question, 
That  the  words  of  the  Clause  to  the  end of  p.  8, 
1. 2, stand  part of  the  Clause, be  now  put. 

Noes, 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
words  of  the  Clause  to  the  end  of  p.  8,  1. 2, 
stand  part  of  the  Clause,  be  now  put. 

321 
twelve  calendar  months  after  the  determination 
of  any  lease, or  on  the  release,  transfer, or  occu­
pation  of  the land."—(Mr.  James  Mason.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for  the  j  Mr.  James Mason, 
I Sir  William Bull: 

Yeas, 

)
j 

68. 

Tellers  for  the  ( Captain  Norton, 

1  .  .„ 

Noes, 

(  Sir  Edward  Strachey  :  1 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,1.  4,
insert  the  word 

after  the  word  "  any,''   to 
"  pecuniary."—(Captain  Craig.) 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

I Captain  Norton: 

j-161.

Question  proposed,  That  the  word 

"pecu­
niary"   be  there  inserted:—Amendment,  by
leave,  withdrawn. 

ti  n 
,i 
Tellers  for the^   ^  ^ 

f Sir  Alexander  Acland-

. 

Noes, 

j v i g C 0 U n t  Valentia 

' 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words   of 
the  Clause  to  the  end  of  p.  8,1.  2,  stand  part 
of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton: 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

( L o rd  Balcarres  : 

I  163  

j 
) 
) 

^ 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,  1.  2, 

at the  end, to  add  the  words— 

"  (5)  The  provisions  of  this Part  of  this  Act 
with  respect  to  reversion  duty  shall  not  apply 
to  minerals  in  any  case  in  which  such  minerals 
are relet  by  the  owner  before,  or  within  twelve 
calendar  months  after, the  determination  of  the 
lease."—(Mr.  Lambton.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

added :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,1.  2, 

after  the  words last  added,  to  add  the  words— 

"  (6)   No  reversion  duty  shall  be  payable  in 
respect  of  a  determination  of  a  lease  arising  by
merger."—(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be 

there 

added. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joynson-Hicks, 

) 
{ Viscount  Castlereagh:  ) 

Yeas, 

A n  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,  1.  5, 
at the  end, to  insert  the  words  "  but  shall not  be 
a  charge  on  the  land."—(Mr.  Watson  Ruther­
ford.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,1.  6, 
to leave  out  the  words  "  Every  lessor  shall."— 
(Sir  Henry  Craik.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part   of  the  Clause:— 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,  I.  8, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  deliver  an  account,"  in 
order  to insert  the  words  "  render  a return  on  a 
form to  be  prescribed  by  the  Commissioners."— 
(Captain  Craig.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:— 

to  be 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,  1. 9, 
after  the  first  word  "  the,"   to  insert  the  word 
"short."—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the word  "  short"   be 

there  inserted  :—Amendment,   by  leave,  with­
drawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  8,  1.  9, 
particulars  of  the  land 

to  leave  out  the  words 
and the."—(Sir  Henry  Craik.) 

72.

Question  put,  That  the  words  "  particulars   of 

the land "  stand  part of  the  Clause. 

Tellers  for the  [ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton  ; 

Noes, 

1  . 
) 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  rose  in  his place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
Clause,  as  amended,  stand  part  of  the  Bill,  be 
now  put. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
Clause,  as  amended,  stand  part  of  the  Bill,  be 
now  put. 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Yeas, 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

I  iqq
J 
1   7 . 
7 1 ' 
j 
Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause,  as 

Tellers  for  the  ( Viscount  Valentia, 
( Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

( Captain  Norton: 

Noes, 

amended, stand  part of the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton: 
Tellers  for the  ( Lord  Balcarres, 
( Mr.  Pike  Pease: 

Noes, 

) 
J 
) 
j 

146.

69.

Clause  No.  9 (Recovery   of  reversion  duty). 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,1.  3, after  the 
word  "  recoverable,'  to insert the  words  "  within 

VOL.  164. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the j(  Captai
-

Yeas, 

-

-

Captainn  Norton,
Norton, 

1 
(  Sir Edward  Strachey  :  f
i 
j 

( Mr.  Joynson-Hicks: 

140,

64.

Tellers  for  the  ( Sir  Henry  Craik, 

Noes, 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 8,  1. 9, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  land "   to  the  end 
of  subsection  (2).—(Mr.  James  Hope.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
the  Clause t— 

to  be  left  out  stand  part  of 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  8,  1.  13, 
insert  the  word 

after  the  word 
"  shillings."—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

"  ten,"  to 

Question  proposed, That the  word  "  shillings" 

be  there inserted:—Amendment,   by  leave,  with­
drawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Mr.  Chancellor   of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move.  That  the  Question,
That  the  Clause,  as amended,  stand  part  of  the 
Bill,  be  now  put. 

T  T 













322 

20th—-21st July. 

1909. 

[No. 101. 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
Clause,  as  amended,  stand  part  of  the  Bill,  be 
now  put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

) 
( Sir  Edward  Strachey ;  j 
] 
)

Tellers for the j  Viscount  Valentia, 
{  Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

138. 

64. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause,  as 

amended,  stand  part  of  tbe  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

) 
( Sir  Edward  Strachey :  j 
] 
| 

Tellers  for the  f Viscount  Valentia, 
|  Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

138. 

63. 

To  report  Progress,  and ask  leave  to  sit again. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair; 
and  the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the 
Bill;  and that  he was directed  to  move, That  the 
Committee  may have  leave  to  sit  again. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 
next, again resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

Adjournment.

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn.—• 

(Captain  Norton.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  thirteen  minutes  after 
Seven of the clock on Wednesday morning, 
adjourned  till  this  day. 

[No.  101.] 

Wednesday, 21st July'1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an  hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Pier  and 
Harbour 
Provisional 
Orders (No. 2) 
Bill. 

TH E  House  proceeded  to  take into  considera­

tion  the  Amendment  made  by  the  Lords 
to  the  Pier  and  Harbour  Provisional  Orders 
(No.   2)  Bill;  and  the  same  was  twice  read, 
and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint  them  that this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendment  made by  their 
Lordships. 

Gas 
Provisional 
Order  Bill. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera­
tion the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to  the 
Gas  Provisional  Order  Bill;  and the  same were 
twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Tide  Fourth 
Report. 
Trade  Reports 
<( Annual 
Series.) 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read;  and ordered  to lie  upon  the  Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic 
and  Consular  Reports, Annual Series,  Nos. 4301, 
4303  to  4305,  4308,  and 4309. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

New  Member
sworn.

John  George  Hancock,  Esquire,  Member  for 
the  County of  Derby  (Mid  Division), was sworn. 

Sir  Luke  White reported  from  the  Committee   Private  Bills 

on  Group  G  of  Private  Bills;  That,  for  theC«roupG.) 
convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Friday  next,  at  Twelve  of  the 
clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 
Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by the  Lords, 
one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have agreed  to the  City  of  London  city  of 

(Street  Traffic)  Bill,  with  Amendments;  
which  the  Lords  desire  the concurrence  of  this jjjjJ66
House. 

^ e° t n T r a f f l c^ 
  c ) 

ra

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments  Manchester 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Manchester  Corpo- g?/^ 0™^ , 
ration  Bill  [Lords], without  any  Amendment.  

1  L 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled   An  Gas and  Water 

Act  to confirm certain  Provisional  Orders  made 
by  the  Board  of  Trade  under  the  Gas  and  Bill  j-ior(is.] 
Water  Works  Facilities  Act,  1870, relating   to 
Coatbridge  Gas,  Llynvi  Valley  Gas,  Bradfield 
Water,  Gravesend  and  Milton  Water,  and 
Hungerford  Water  ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire 
the  concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a Bill, intituled   An  Shrewsbury  

Act  to  authorise  the  Corporation  of  Shrewsbury Corporation  

to  construct  a  weir  on  the  River  Severn,  and  1  L  "r 
for  other  purposes;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  

the  concurrence  of  this  House.  


The  Lords  propose  that  the  Joint  Committee  High  Court 

appointed  to  consider  the state of  Business in the 
King's  Bench  Division  of  the  High  Court  of  $ H L ®  e n c  h 
Justice,  and  whether  any  increase  is  desirable 
in  the  number  of  Judges  of  that Division,  do 
meet  on  Monday  next  in  Committee  Room  C, 
at  a quarter  before  Four  of  the  clock  ;  to  which 
the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of this  House. 

The  Gas  and  Water  Orders  Confirmation  Gas and Water 

Bill  [Lords]  was read  the first time. 

Confirmation 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  Bill 

[Zordt.j 
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills  ;  and  Bill 283. 
be  printed. 

The  Shrewsbury  Corporation  Bill 

was read  the first time. 

[Lords]  Shrewsbury 
B H  ? [ ° S] 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 

Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills. 

Ordered,  That  so  much  of  the  Message  from  High  Court  


the  Lords  of  this  day  as relates  to  the  place  and  

time  of  meeting  of  the  Joint  Committee  on Division.)  

High  Court  of  Justice  (King's  Bench  Division)  

be  now  taken into  consideration.  


The  House  accordingly c  proceeded  to  take 

that part  of  the  Message  into  consideration.  


Ordered, That  the  Committee  of  this  House 
do  meet  the  Lords'  Committee  as  proposed  by 
their  Lordships. 

Ordered,  That  a  Message  be  sent  to  the 
Lords to  acquaint  them  that  this  House  hath 
directed  the  Committee appointed  by this  House 
to  join  with  the  Committee  appointed  by  the 
Lords  on  High  Court of  Justice  (King's  Bench 
Division)  to  meet  the  Committee  appointed  by 
their  Lordships 
in  Committee  Room  C  on 
Monday  next,  at  a  quarter  before  Four  of  the 
clock,  as proposed  by  their  Lordships:  And  that 
the  Clerk  do  carry  the  said  Message.—(Mr. 
Joseph  Pease.) 

Mr.  Claude  Hay,  supported  by  Mr.  Cochrane,  Aliens  Bill. 
Mr.  Mallet,  Mr.  Rupert  Guinness, Mr.  Remnant,  Bill 284, 
and  Mr,  Goulding, presented  a  Bill  to  make 
further  provision  for  the  expulsion  of  Aliens 

 
 
 
­


No. 101.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

21 st July. 

323 

convicted  of  certain  offences,  and  for  other 
purposes  connected  therewith:  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  next;  and  to  be  printed. 

Supply

The  House, according   to  Order, resolved  itself 

Dayh]all0tted

i n t0  t he   Committee  of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments  

Estimates,  1909-10.  


Class  II. 
Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That  a 
sum  not  exceeding  £19,896   be  granted  to 
His  Majesty,  to  complete  the  sum  necessary  to 
defray  the  charge  which  will  come  in  course  of 
payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day 
of  March  1910  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses 
of  the  Offices  of  the  Chief  Secretary  in  Dublin 
and  London,  and  of  the  Inspectors  of  Lunatic 
Asylums,  and  Expenses  under  the  Inebriates 
Acts: 

Whereupon  Motion  made,  and  Question,  That 
a  sum  not  exceeding  £19,796  be  granted  for 
the  said  Service—(Captain  Craig),—put,  and 
negatived. 

Original  Question  put,  and  agreed  to. 
Resolution  to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  come  to  a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may  have  leave   to 
sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again  resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Labour 
Exchanges 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill, 
as  amended  in the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Buildings and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

The Order  of  the  day being read, for  resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  21st  day  of  April  last, That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till  to-morrow. 

London ­
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  London  Electric  Supply 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

London 
Elections  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee); 

VOL.  164. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking Marine 
into  consideration  the  Marine  Insurance  (Gam-   insurance 
bling  Policies)  Bill,  as amended  in the  Standing  ^ S l i i i l  . 
Committee; 

' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning,  &c.   T o wn 
p ' li  .  
x ml   ' 

Bill. 

o ' 

- Planning,  &c. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking   Telegraph 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration)   (Arbitration) 
Bill (not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee)  ;  Bl11' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Secretary  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board t he  B o a rd   o t 
of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill; 

t f f m  A 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time  Bi]I­

to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  Public Works 

Committee  on  the  Public  Works  Loans  B i l l;

L o a a9

  Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking   Board  of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as Trade  Bill, 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of 

Second  Reading   of  the  Milk  and  Dairies  Bill;

the  day  being  read,  for  the  Milk and 
Dairies  B m -

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for receiving   Public  Works 

the  Report  from  the  Committee   on  Public  f° ans.
Works  Loans  [Remission]  ; 

[Remission.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order   of the  day being read, for receiving   Snper­

the  Report  from  the  Committee  on  Superannua­
tion  [Allowances  and  Gratuities]  ; 

ances^and 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to-  Gratuities.]; 

morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  Mand 
T>MI 
T-> 
Revenue  iiill; 

Revenue  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Resolved, That  this  House  do  now  adjourn.— Adjournment 

(Mr.  Fuller.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit till  ten  minutes  before  Eight  

of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow.  


T  T  2 

 
 
 
 
324 

22nd July. 

1909. 

[No. 103. 

[No.  103.] 

Thursday,  22nd July  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P E  A Y ER   S. 

Private  Bills  M R  .  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
[Lords'] 
from one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions for 
(Standing 
Private  Bills, That  in  the  case of  the  following 
Orders npt 
Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords,  and  referred  on 
previously 
inquired  into 
the  First  Reading  thereof,  the  Standing  Orders 
complied 
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are 
with.) 
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
viz. 

Torquay  and  Paignton  Tramways  Bill 

[Lords']. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time. 

West 
Gloucester­
shire Water 
Bill. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera-
tion  the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to 
the  West  Gloucestershire  Water  Bill;  and  the 
same were  twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Alexandra 
The  Alexandra  (Newport  and  South  Wales) 
(Newport  and  Docks  and  Railway  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  the 
South  Wales)  

Docks and 
Railway  Bill  

[ Lords.] 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same, without  Amendment. 

third  time  and passed.  


Alliance  and 
Dublin 
Consumers 
Gas Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Alliance  and Dublin  Consumers  Gas  Bill 
[Lords'I was read  the  third  time and  passed, with 
Amendments. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same, with  Amendments;  to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

North  Eastern  The  Order of  the day being  read, for  resuming 
Railway  Bill 
the  adjourned  Debate  on the Amendment  which, 
[Lords.] 
upon  the  15th  day  of  this  instant  July,  was 
proposed  to  be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the 
North  Eastern  Railway  Bill  [Lords']  be  now 
read a  second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further  adjourned 
till Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of  an  hour  after 
Eight  of  the  clock. 

and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

A  Public  Petition  was  presented,  and  read  ; 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 
Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Coroners 
CommHteee)tal  M a  j e s t  y '  s  Command, —  Copy  of  First  Report  of 
the Departmental Committee appointed to inquire 
into the Law relating  to  Coroners and  Coroners' 
Inquests,  and  into  the  practice  in  Coroners' 
Courts.  Report,  Evidence,  and  Appendices. 

m 

' 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Board  of 
Education. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Circular  as to  Regulations 
for  Religious  Instruction  in  Training  Colleges. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Trade Reports 
^Annual 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copies of  Diplomatic 

and  Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series, Nos. 4307 

and 4310. 


Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Ordered, That  there  be laid  before this  House  Civil  Servants 
a  Copy  of  Treasury  Minute,  dated  the  20th  day (^reemoefnt   at 
of  July  1909,  stating  the  circumstances  under sixty-five.) 
which  certain  Civil  Servants  have  been  retained 
in the  Service  after  they  have  attained  the  Age 
of  Sixty-five,  and of  the  Return  therein  referred 
to.—(Mr. Hobhouse,) 

John  William  Gulland,  Esquire,  Member  for  New  Me  mber 

the  Dumfries  District of  Burghs,  was  sworn. 

sworn. 

Ordered,  That  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Bake-  Hours of 

houses) Bill  be read a second  time  upon  Wednes- Labour 

day  next. 

(Bakehouses) 
Bill. 

Mr,  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Massage from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by  the  Lords. 
one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have agreed  to the  Thames  Tunnel Thames 

(North  and  South  Woolwich)  Bill, with  Amend- Tunnel 

ments ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concur- South 
rence  of  this  House. 

(North  and 

Woolwich) 
Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments Lisburn  Urban 

made  by  this  House  to  the  Lisburn  Urban District 
District  Council  Bill 
[Lords],  without  any  [Lords.]
Amendment. 

Council  Bill

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled   An  Tramways 

Act  to confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders  made  Orders 
by  the Board of  Trade under  the Tramways  Act, 
1870, relating  to Bolton  Corporation  Tramways, 
Keighley  Corporation  Tramways,  Morecambe 
Corporation  Tramways, Portsmouth  Corporation 
Tramways,  and  Whitworth  Urban  District 
Council  Tramways  ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire 
the concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Tram ways  Orders  Confirmation  Bill  Tramways 

J 

[Lords]  was read  the first time. 
u 

2rd®rs 
Confirmation 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  Bill  [Lords.]
Examiners  of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills ;  and  13111  285. 
be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Sea  Fisheries  Regulation  Sea  Fisheries 

(Scotland)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  upon ]?®sulati™ 
Thursday  next. 

Bill. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  resolved itself  Supply 

into the  Committee  of  Supply. 

[16th  allotted 
Day.J 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments  

Estimates,  1909-10.  


Class  II. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That  a 
sum  not  exceeding  £41,871  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty, to complete  the sum necessary to  defray 
the  charge  which  will  come in course of  payment 
during  the  year  ending  on the  31st day of  March 
1910  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses  of  the 
Department  of  His  Majesty's  Secretary  of  State 
for  Foreign  Affairs  : 

Whereupon  Motion  made, and  Question  put, 
That  Item  A  (Salaries,  Wages,  and Allowances) 
be reduced  by  £100  in  respect  of  the  Salary  of 
the  Secretary  of  State.—(Sir  Charles Dilke.) 

. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the/Mr.  George  Roberts, 

\ 
(Mr.  Charles  Duncan:  J 

Yeas, 

79. 

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
(Captain  Norton  : 

Noes, 

1 
j 

187. 


Original  Question  put, and  agreed  to.  






No. 102.]  9  EDW.  YII. 

22nd July. 

325 

And  it  being  after  Eleven   of  the  clock,  the 
Chairman  left  the  Chair   to  make  his  Beport 
to  the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


Resolution  to be  reported. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for resuming   Cinemato­

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  come  to  a  Resolution. 

the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  21st  day   of  April  last,  That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill   be  now  read  a  second  time; 

Ordered,  That the Debate  be further adjourned 


Bill, 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

till  Monday  next.  


Monday  next. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may  have  leave   to 
sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 
next, again resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

'Supply 
[8th  July] 
Deport. 

The  Order  of  the day being  read,  for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Supply of  the 
8th  day  of  this instant  July  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

Supply 

t

l7th  Jane] 
leport 

(Postponed 
Resolution.) 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration the  First   of  the  Resolutions 
which,  upon  the  1st  day   of  this  instant  July, 
were  reported  from the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  17th  day  of  June  last, and  which  Resolution 
was then  postponed  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

into  further consideration  upon  Thursday  next. 

Supply 
[24th  June] 
Report. 

The  Order  of  the day being  read,  for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  24th  day  of  June  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

Supply 
[14th  June] 
Report 

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  14th  day  of  June  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

Supply 
[3rd  June] 
Report. 

The Order   of  the  day being  read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  3rd  day of  June  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

Supply 
[27th  April] 
Report. 

The Order   of  the day being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  27th  day  of  April  last  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

Supply 
[21st  July] 
Report. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  21st  day  of this  instant  J u l y; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Thursday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 

Second  Reading   of  the  London  Electric  Supply Electric  

B i l l  ; 

'  Supply  Bill.  


Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking London 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections
(not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee)  ; 

Bifl K l e c t i o n8  B i lL 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking Marine 
into  consideration  the  Marine  Insurance  (Gam-   iraurance 
bling  Policies)  Bill,  as amended  in  the  Standing  poli™^n|in 
Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning,  &c.   T o w  n 
B i l l;  

Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking   Telegraph 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration)   (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee);   BlU' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Secretary  of 
B  ^ o  f 

Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board  
of Agriculture  and  Fisheries  B i l l;  

a n d  Fisheries 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time  B l lL 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  Public Works 

Committee  on  the  Public  Works  Loans  B i l l;

L o a ns

  BiU. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking   Board  of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as  Trade  Bill, 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Milk  and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Milk  and  Dairies  Bill;   Dairies  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

upon  Monday  next. 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  reported  from  the  Committee   Public  Works 

on  Public  Works  Loans  [Remission]  a  Resolu- ^° ans.  . 
tion;  which  was read,  as followeth  : 

L  emi8Slon J 

Labour 
Exchanges 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill, 
as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Buildings and 
Engineering  • 
Works Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill; 

V O L . 1 6 4. 

That  it is  expedient to authorise the  remission 

of  a  debt  due  to  the  Public  Works  Loan  Com­
missioners, in pursuance of any A ct   of the present 
Session  to  grant  money  for  the  purpose   of 
certain  Local  Loans  out   of  the  Local  Loans 
Fund,  and  for  other  purposes  relating   to  Local 
Loans. 

The  said  Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time,  was  agreed  to. 

T  T  3 

 
326 

22nd July. 

1909. 

[NO. 102. 


Super-
annuation 
[Allow­
ances and 
Gratuities.] 

Mi1. Hobhouse  reported  from  the  Committee 
on  Superannuation  [Allowances  and  Gratuities] 
a  Resolution  ;  which  was read,  as followeth  : 

That  it  is  expedient  to  authorise  the  pay­
ment,  out of  moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of 
additional  Allowances  and  Gratuities  to  Civil 
Servants  in  certain  cases  on  their  retirement, 
and of  Allowances  and  Gratuities  to  their  legal 
personal  representatives  in  case  of  death,  in 
pursuance of  any  Act   of  the  present  Session  to 
amend  the  Superannuation  Acts,  1834  to  1892. 
The  said  Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time,  was  agreed  to. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  B i l l; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Second  Reading  of 
(Advertising)  B i l l; 

the  Local  Authorities   Authorities 

^Advertising) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the Burial Places 
Second  Reading   of  the  Burial  Places  (Exemp-   (Exemption 
f s c o t w? 
tion  from Rates)  (Scotland)  B i l l; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time Bil1­

upon  Thursday  the  5th  day  of  August  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Parliamentary 
Second  Reading   of  the  Parliamentary  Seats  Seats (Peers of 
(Peers   of  Scotland)  B i l l;  
Scotland) BiU. 

to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Oaths Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as  amended 
in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  further 

consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Licensed 
Premises 
(Election 
Days) 
Closing  Bill. 

Sale of 
Intoxicating 
Liquors on 
Sunday  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 

into  consideration  the  Licensed  Premises  (Elec­
tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day being read, lor resuming 
the  adjourned Debate  on the  Amendment which, 
upon  the  25th  day  of  June  last, was  proposed 
to  be  made  on  consideration  of  the  Sale  of 
Intoxicating Liquors on Sunday  Bill, as amended 
in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till  Tuesday  next. 

Under Sheriffs  The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
Boroughs) 
iuto  consideration  the  U n d e  r  Sheriffs  (County 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Standing  Committee; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Second  Reading  of the  Local  Authorities (Legal   Authorities 
feU 
Expenses)  B i l l; 

_ 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time  Bili. 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Special  Land 
Second  Reading  of  the  Special  Land  Tenures   Tenure"BiI1' 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Death 

Second  Reading  of 
(Charges)  Bill;  

the  Death  Certificates  Certificates 

(Charges)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   B0ad Traffic 

Second  Reading   of  the  Road  Traffic  Bill;  

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Conveyancing 

Second  Reading  of  the  Conveyancing  B i l l;  

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

sideration  upon  Thursday  next. 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Local 
Education 
Authorities 
(Medical 
Treatment) 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 

into  consideration  the  Local  Education  Autho­
rities  (Medical  Treatment)  Bill  (not  amended 
in the  Standing  Committee); 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Bishopric of 
Sheffield Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield 
Bill,  as amended  in the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Remission of 
Surcharges 
(Dublin)  BiU. 

The  House,  according  to Order, resolved itself 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Remission  of  Sur­
charges  (Dublin)  (recommitted)  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Settled  Land 

Second  Reading  of  the  Settled  Land  Bill;  

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  pnbii0 Health 

Second  Reading   of  the  Public  Health  ActAct(i876) 
^ ^ m e nt 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the Bill   be  read  a second  time  Rights)  Bill, 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Rights of Way 

Second  Reading   of  the  Rights  of  Way  Bill;  

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.  1 to  No.  3 agreed  to. 
Bill  to be  reported. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   criminal 

Second  Reading   of  the  Criminal  Appeal  Bill;  

Appeal  Bill. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  gone  through  the  Bill,  and 
directed  him to  report the  same, without  Amend­
ment. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  pining 
Second  Reading   of  the  Pawning  Industrial  industrial 
Tools Bill. 
Tools  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

No. 102.]  9  EDW.  V I I. 

22nd—23rd July. 

3 27 

Restraint  of 
Trades (Shops) 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Restraint  of  Trades 
(Shops)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Hours of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading   of  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Sur­
facemen)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Cheap  TrainB 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading   of  the  Cheap  Trains  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading   of  the  Dogs'  Protection  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Wild  Birds 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection 
Bill: 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

to  morrow. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued   to 
sit  till  twenty-three minutes  after  Eleven 
of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

Derwent 
Valley  Water 
Board  Bill. 

[No.  103.] 

Friday,  23rd Jidy  1909. 

The  House  met  at  Twelve  of  the  clock. 

P R A T ER   S. 

TH E  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera­

tion  the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to 
the  Derwent  Valley  Water  Board  Bill;  and  the 
same  were  twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made   by  their 
Lordships. 

Oxford  and 
District 
Tramways 
Bill. 

The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera­
tion  the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to  the 
Oxford  and  District  Tramways  Bill;  and  the 
same  were  twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Pontypridd 
Water  BiU. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera­
tion  the  Amendments  made by  the  Lords   to  the 
Pontypridd  Water  Bill;  and  the  same  were 
twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Swinton  and 
Mexborough 
Gas Board 
BiU. 

The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera­
tion  the  Amendments  made by  the  Lords  to  the 
Swinton  and  Mexborough  Gas  Board  B i l l;  and 
the same  were twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

The  Risca  Urban  District  Council  Bill   Risca  Urban  


J 

[Lords]  was read  a second  time,  and  committed.  District  

L 

Gouncil Bill 
[Lords.] 
Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and   Public 

' 

read;  and  ordered  to  lie upon  the  Table.  

r 

Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,   by  His  Majesty's Civil Services 

Command,  —  Estimate  of  the 
required  to  be  voted  for  the  Civil  Services  for  s p a t e s, 
the  year  ending  31st  March  19 1 0. 

1909-10.)' 
Ordered,  That  the  said  Estimate  be  referred  No.  232. 

further  sums (Sn'ppie­

to  the  Committee  of  Supply  ;  and  be  printed. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Colonial 
Command,—Copies  of  Reports  Nos.  605  (Wei- Reports 
haiwei,  -Annual  Report 
(Seychelles,  Annual  Report  for  1908). 

for  1908)  and  606   U n a M L  ) 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's   Trade 
Command,—Copy  of  Annual  Statement  of  the  (Foreign 
Trade  of  the  United  Kingdom  with  Foreign  ^British 
Countries  and  British  Possessions  for  1908,   Possessions.) 
compared  with 

four  preceding  years. 

the 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Sir  Luke  White  reported  from  the  Committee   Methwold  and 

on  the  Methwold  and  Feltwell  Drainage  Bill ^elfcwell 
[Lords]-,  That,  pursuant  to  the  Instruction  of  [Lords.]
the  House  dated  the  13th  July,  the  Committee 
had  considered  the  advisability  of  substituting, 
for  the  general  drainage  tax  provided  for   in 
Clause 23 and  the  additional tax under Clause  24 
of  the  Bill,  a  scheme  of  taxation  graduated 
according  to  the  value of  the  lands  to be  taxed, 
but  that  on  hearing  the  evidence  put  before 
them  by  the  promoters  and  opponents  of  the 
Bill  they  were  unanimously  of  opinion  that  the 
tax  should  be  an  acreage  tax  as  proposed  by 
the  Bill. 

Sir  Luke  White  further  reported  from  the 

Committee  ;  That  they  had  examined  the  alle­
gations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill, 
and  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it  con­
sistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as  passed 
by  the  Committee,  and  found  the  same  to  be 
true ;  and  had  gone  through  the  Bill  and  made 
Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Mr.  Soames  reported  from  the  Committee   Railway  Bills 

on  Group  5  of  Railway  Bills;  That,  for  the( GrouP5.) 
convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had  ad­
journed  till  Wednesday  next,   at  half  an  hour 
after  Eleven   of  the  clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee   of  Selection 
Selection;  That  the  following  Member, repre-  (standmg 
senting  a  Scottish  Constituency,  is  appointed. to  sottish 668 
serve  on  the  Standing  Committee  for  the  con-   Standing 
sideration of all Public  Bills  relating  to Scotland,  Committee, 
and  committed  to  a  Standing  Committee  :—Mr. 
Gulland. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Sir  Henry  Kimber  reported  from  the  Com-   Local 

mittee  on  the  Local  Government  Provisional
Orders  (No.   6)  Bill;  That  they  had  considered  orders°(No.6) 
the  said  Orders  ;  that  the  said  Orders  ought  to  Bill. 

4 

V O L.  164. 

T  T  4 

 
328 	

23rd July. 

1909. 

[No. 103. 

[Provisional
Orders
confirmed.]

  be  confirmed  ;  and  that  they  had  directed  him 
t o  report  the  Bill,  with  Amendments,   to  the 
TT	
House. 

' 

r

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  upon 
Monday  next. 

Railway  Bills
(Group 6.)

Sir  George  Doughty  reported  from  the  Com­
m i t t ee   o n  G r o up  6   o f  JJailway  Bills;  That,  for 
the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Tuesday  next,   at  Eleven  of  the 
clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Irish  Land 
[Advances, 
&c.] 

Mr.  Harcourt  reported  from  the  Committee 
on  Irish  Land  [Advances,  &c.]  a  Resolution; 
which  was  read,  as followeth  : 

That,  for  carrying  out  the  provisions   of  any 
Act   of  the  present  Session  to  amend  the  Law 
relating  to  the  occupation  and  ownership  of  land 
in  Ireland, it  is  expedient— 

(a)   T o  authorise  the  creation  of  a new  capital 
stock  for  raising  any  money  required  for 
the  Irish  Land  Purchase  Fund  (including 
the  Land  Purchase  Aid  Fund),  and  the 
temporary  borrowing  of  any  such  money 
by  bills  or  bonds,  and  to  charge  on  the 
Consolidated  Fund  in  certain  contingencies 
the  payment  of  the  dividends  on  the  new 
stock,  and  the  payment  of  the  interest 
and  the  repayment  of  the  principal  of  any 
such  bills  or  bonds  ; 

( b)   To  remove  the  limit  on	  the  total  sums  to 
be  paid  out  of  the  Land  Purchase  Aid 
Fund  ,• 

( c)   To  authorise	  the  payment,  out  of  moneys 
provided  by  Parliament,  in  certain  con­
tingencies, of  deficiencies  that  may  arise  on 
the  Irish  Land  Purchase  Fund  and  the 
Guarantee  Fund,  and  to  make  provision  for 
payment,  out  of  moneys  provided  by  Par­
liament,  on  the  exhaustion  of  the  Reserve 
Fund,  or  the  Ireland  Development  Grant, 
of  sums  for  purposes  for  which  provision 
would  otherwise  have  been  made  out   of 
that  fund  or  grant; 

(d)   To  authorise  the  payment,  out  of  moneys 
provided  by  Parliament,  of  an  annual  sum 
to the  Congested  Districts  Board for  Ireland 
and  to  the  Department   of  Agriculture  and 
Technical  Instruction  for  Ireland  ; 

(e)   To  authorise  the  National  Debt	   Commis­

sioners  to  make  advances  in  certain  cases  to 
the  Land  Commission. 

The  said  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time; 

A n  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 

the  said  Resolution,  in  I. 4, by  leaving  out  para­
graph  (a).—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part   of  the 
Resolution; 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes   to  the  Left. 

Tellers  for the f Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
1 Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

\  ^Q 
J 

Tellers  for the (Sir  Frederick  Banbury,  ^ .  „„ 
' 

[Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien  :  J 

Noes, 

So it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

Another Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made 
to  the  said  Resolution,  in  1. 20, by  leaving  out 
paragraph  (d).—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words  

proposed  to  be  left  out,   to  the  first  word  " t o ,"  

m  1. 21,  stand  part  of  the  Resolution  :—It  was  

resolved  in the  Affirmative.  


Another Amendment  was proposed   to be  made  

to  the  said  Resolution,  in  1. 21,  by  leaving  out  

the  words  " t  o  the  Congested  Districts  Board  

for  Ireland  and."—(Captain  Craig.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part   of  the  Reso­
lution  :—It  was  resolved   in  the  Affirmative. 

And  the  Resolution  was agreed  to. 

The  House, according   to  Order, resolved  itself  Irish  Land  


into  a  Committee  on  the  Irish  Land  Bill.  

l i m­

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  2  (Power   to  raise  new  guaranteed 

three  per  cent,  stock,  and  provision  as to  invest­
ment  by  savings  bank  depositors  in  stock). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,1.-18, to  leave 

out  subsection  (1).—(Captain  Craig.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed   to  be  

left  out,  to  the  word  "three,"   in  p.  1,  1. 21, 

stand  part  of  the  Clause.  


The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

[ Captain  Norton: 

Tellers  for  the] Mr.  Charles  Craig, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Lonsdale: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,  1. 23, 
leave  out  the  word  "  either."—(Captain 

to 
Craig.) 

.  168. 
/ 
1  ^ 
J 

Question,  That  the  word  "  either  "  stand  part 

of  the  Clause,  put,  and  agreed  to. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,   in p.  1,1.  25, 

to  leave  out  subsection  (2).—(Captain  Craig.) 

Question  put,  That  subsection  (2)  stand  part 

of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

[Captain  Norton  : 

Tellers  for  the/Captain  Craig, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Moore  : 

232. 

}
\ 	 49. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part   of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Charles  Craig, 

Noes, 

[Mr.  Lonsdale: 

"1 .  „„  

/

\ 
j 

-. 

And  it  being  Five   of  the  clock,  the  Chairman  Chairman 

proceeded,  in  pursuance  of 
the  Order  of  the  P u t  s  Question 
House  of the  15th  day  of  June  last,  successively  ( p ^ ^ t t  o 
to  put  forthwith  the  Questions  necessary   to  Order of  the 
dispose of  the  Business to  be  concluded  this  day.  House.) 

Clause  No.  3  (Power   to  make  advances  by 

guaranteed  stock  under  certain  circumstances). 

Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part   of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the/ Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
( Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  thefMr.  Hugh  Barrie, 

Noes, 

( M r.  Lonsdale : 


1232. 

|  51. 

Clause  No.  4  agreed  to.  

Whereupon  the  Chairman  left  the  Chair  to 

make  his Report  to  the  House. 

 
 
 
 
 






No. 103 ]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

23rd July. 

329 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 

Deputy  Chairman  reported,  That  the  Com­
mittee  had  made  Progress  in  the  B i l l;  and 
that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the  Com­
mittee  may  have  leave   to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Friday 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

Labour 
Exchanges 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill, 
as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

the  Lords,  and  desire  their  concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking Rule 

into  consideration  the  Rule  Committee  Bill,   as  Committee 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee);  

BlU> 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Friday  next. 

The  House,  according   to  Order,  proceeded  to  Local 
take  into  consideration  the  Local  Education   Education 
( n o t ^  e ^ i e  s 
Authorities 
(Medical  Treatment)  Bill 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee). 
Treatment) 

A  Clause  (No  obligation  on  parent  to  submit  Bl11' 

child  to  treatment)—(Mr.  Walter  Guinness)—
was  twice  read ;  and made  part  of  the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  the  third 
time :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and  passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 

the  Lords,  and  desire  their  concurrence. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Bevenue BilL 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Anaesthetics 

Second  Reading   of  the  Anaesthetics  B i l l;  

Bil1, 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  the  6th  day   of  August  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Trustees
Accounts Bill.  Third  Reading   of  the  Trustees'  Accounts  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Bridgend 
The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,'  for  the 
(Hope  English  Third  Reading   of  the  Bridgend  (Hope  English 
Ohap|&c.)
Charity  Bill.

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read the  third  time 

  Baptist  Chapel,  &c.)  Charity  B i l l; 

* 

upon  Friday  next. 

John
Marshall's
Charity Bill,

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Third  Reading  of  John  Marshall's  Charity 
g j jj  . 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Union Officers 
Second  Reading   of  the  Union  Officers (Ireland)   (Ireland)  Bill. 
B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Post Office 

Second  Reading   of  the  Post  Office  (Lotteries  
and  Obscene  Matter)  Bill;  

a n  d 

Matter) Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time  


upon  Thursday  next.  


The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Second  Reading   of 
(Advertising)  Bill   ; 

the  Local  Authorities   Authorities 

(Advertising) 

upon  Friday  next. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Lichfield and
Third  Reading   of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon 
Longdon
Chapetf andaal  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust Property  Charity  Bill  ; 
Charity  Bill.

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Parliamentary 
° f 
Scotland)  Bill. 

Second  Reading   of  the  Parliamentary  Seats  
(Peers  of  Scotland)  B i l l;  

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time  


upon  Friday  the  27th  day  of  August  next.  


Dewsbury
and Batley
Chapel8'^ 10Ua
charities Bill.

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  _ Third  Reading   of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs'  

Second  Reading   of  the  Dogs'  Protection  Bill;  Protection 

  Congregational  Chapel  Charities  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  thethird  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Wortley
Congregational  Third  Reading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational 
Charity  Bill.


  Chapel  Charity  Bill 

. 

• 

Bill, 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Wild  Birds  

Second  Reading   of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection   Protection  

BiH;  

Bl11­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time  


Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Monday  next.  


Upon  Friday  next. 

Remission of

Surcharges

(Dublin) Bill.

v

The  Remission   of  Surcharges  (Dublin)  Bill 
w a  s  according  to  Order,  read  the  third  time 
-1 
and  passed. 

;  ' 

; 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 

the  Lords,  and  desire  their  concurrence. 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Sneaker   do  issue  his  Sligo County  

S 1 ,  » 

Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown  in  Ireland, 
to  make  out  a  new  Writ  for  the  electing  Of  a  

Member  to  serve in  this  present  Parliament  for  

the  County  of  Sligo  (North  Sligo),   in  the  room  

of  Patrick Aloysius M'Hugh,  Esquire,  deceased.  

—(Captain  Donelan.)  


Handloom
Wearing Bill,

The  House,  according   to  Order,  proceeded  to 
  take  into  consideration  the  Handloom  Weaving! 

Bill,  as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  now  read  the  third! 
time :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third-
time  and  passed. 
VOL.  164. 

1 

Whereupon  Mr.-  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant 
to  Standing  Order  No.   3,  it  being  then  

eighteen  minutes  after  Five   of  the  clock,  

till  Monday  next.  


U  IT 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 










26th  July. 

1909. 

[No.104. 

[No.  104.] 

Monday, 2Qth July 1909. 

The  House  met  at a  quarter  of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report 
Private Bills 
[Lords] 
M  R - from one  of  the  Examiners of  Petitions  for 
(Standing 
Private  Rills,  That  in  the  case  of  the  following 
Orders  not 
previously 
Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords,  and  referred  oh 
inquired  into  the  First  Reading  thereof,  the  Standing  Orders 
complied 
not  previously  inquired  into,  and  which  are 
with.) 
applicable  thereto,  have  been  complied  with, 
viz. :­

Shrewsbury  Corporation  Bill  [Lords]. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time. 

City  of 
London 
(Street 
Traffic)  Bill. 

The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera-
tion  the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to 
the  City  of  London  (Street  Traffic)  Bill;  and 
the  same were  twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made by  their 
Lordships. 

Thames 
The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera-
Ind South0rth t i o  n  t l l  e  Amendments  made by  the  Lords to the 
Thames  Tunnel  (North  and  South  Woolwich) 
Woolwich) 
Bill (  and  the* same were  twice  read, and  agreed 
Bill. 
to. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Heywood 
Corporation 
Bill. 

The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera-
tion  the  Heywood  Corporation  Bill,  as amended 
in  the  Committee. 

Ordered, That  Standing  Orders  223  and 243 
be suspended, and that  the  Bill  be  now  read  the 
third  time.—(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

Mr.  Burns,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted  the  House  that His  Majesty,  having 
been  informed  of  the  purport of the  Bill, gives 
His  Consent,  as  far  as  His  Majesty's  interest 
is  concerned, that  the  House  may  do therein  as 
they  shall think  fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and 

passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire  their concurrence. 

South  Western  The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera­
and  Isle  of 
Junction 
Railways 
Bill  [Lords.] 

tion  the  South  Western  and  Isle  of  Wight 
Junction  Railways  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  in 
the  Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the  third  time. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
Local 
take  into  consideration  the  Local  Government 
Government 
brf«re°(No. 6) Provisional  Orders  (No.  6)  Bill,  as  amended  in 
Bill. 

the  Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

Lighting  Provisional  Orders 

Ordered,  That  in  the  case  of  the  Electric 
Electric 
Lighting 
(No.   1)  Bill 
Provisional 
Orders (No.  1)  [Lords'],  Gas  and  Water  Orders  Confirmation 
[Lords],  Bill  [Lords],  and  Tramways  Orders  Confirma-
Bill 
Gas and Water  tion  Bill  [Lords],  so  much  of  Standing  Order 
Orders 
Confirmation  73  as provides  that  notice  of  the day  on  which 
[Lords],  a  Bill  for  confirming  any  Provisional  Order  will 
Bill 
and  Tramways  be  examined  shall  not  be given  until  after  the 

Bill  has  been  printed  and  circulated,  be  sus- Orders 
pended.—(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

Confirmation 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public 

read;  and ordered to  lie upon  the  Table. 

vide  Fourth 

Report. 
Mr.  Birrell  presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com-   Dublin 
mand,—Copy of  Statistical Tables for the Dublin  ^rc°epolitan 
Metropolitan  Police  for  the  year  1908. 

Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Poisons  and 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  ^9b0a8rmacy Act' 
the  Poisons  and  Pharmacy  (Ireland)  Regula­
tions,  1909. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented, by  His  Trade  Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic  and g^te")1 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4311, 
4312, and 4315. 

Copy  of  Exchange  of  Notes  between  the  Treaty  Series 
United  Kingdom  and  Germany  renewing  f o r a ^  0 ,  2 l ) , 1 J W'' 
further  period  of  one  year  the  Arbitration 
Agreement  signed  at  London,  12th  July  1904 
(Treaty  Series,  No.   6,  1904),  7th  June—9th 
July  1909. 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Merchant 
directions  of  an  Act   of  Parliament, —  Copy  ^ p p m  s  Acts, 
of  Report  by  the  Board  of  Trade  of the  cases  in (Dispensing 
which  they  have  exercised  their  powers  under  Powers.) 
Section  78 of the  Merchant  Shipping Act,  1906,  No. 233. 
during  the  year  ended  31st  May  1909, 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and  be  printed; 

Mr.  Burns  presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com-  Local 

mand, —  Copy  of  Thirty-eighth  Annual  Report Government 
of  the  Local  Government  Board,  1908-9.  Part 
I.,  Administration  of  the  Poor  Law,  the  Unem­
ployed  Workmen  Act,  and 
the  Old  Age 
Pensions  Act. 

Mr.  Burns  also  presented, — Return  to  an  Pauperism 
Order,  dated  the  17th  day  of  June  last,  for  a  (England  and 
Return  relative  to  Pauperism  (England  and ^f/.yearly 
Wales)  (Half-yearly  Statements).  
Statements.) 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers do lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and that the  said Return  be  printed. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  —  Return  to  an  civil  Servants 
Order,  dated  the  22nd  day  of  this instant  July,  (Betirement  at 
for  a Return  relative to  Civil  Servants  (Retire­
ment  at the  Age   of  Sixty-five).

235 

Ordered, That  the  said Return  do  lie  upon the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His  Coal  Mines 
Majesty's Command,—Copy of Circular addressed  ^Regulation 
to  Owners  of  Coal  Mines  by  His  Majesty's Aot-1908' 
Inspectors  of  Mines  under  the  Coal  Mines 
Regulation  Act,  1908,  calling  attention  to  the 
steps  to  be  taken  by  the  management  before 
1st July  1909. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur-  Polling 

suant  to the directions of  an Act  of  Parliament,  
o f 
—Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the London!)0 
County  of  London,  dividing  the  Parliamentary 
Borough of Wandsworth  into  Polling  Districts. 

Ordered, That  the  said Papers  do  lie  upon the 


Table. 


Ordered, That  there  belaid  before this House  Cyprus, 

a  Return  of  all  sums  paid  in the years  1905-6, 
1906-7,  1907-8,  and  1908-9,  respectively,  out 
of  the  moneys  arising  from  the  Revenues  of 

 
N o.  1 0 4 .] 

9   EDW.  YII. 

Cyprus,  in  discharge  of  the  interest  upon  the 
Turkish  Loan  guaranteed  by  this  country  and 
France  in  1855;  of  all  sums  voted  by  Parlia­
ment  during  the  same  period  in  aid  of  the 
administration  of  Cyprus ;  and  of  the  surplus 
remaining  in  each  year  over  and  above  the 
payments  made,  with  interest  thereon  (in  con­
tinuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  282   of 
Session  1906.—(ColonelLockwood.) 

Ordered,  That  there  be laid  before  this  House 

  Return  as to the Proceedings of Distress  Com­
mittees  in  England  and  Wales  and  of  the 
Central  (Unemployed)  Body  for  London  under 
the  Unemployed  Workmen  Act,  1905,  during 
the year  ended  the 31st  day of  March  1909  (in 
continuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  173 
of  Session  1908).—(Mr.  Burns.) 

^employed 
1905.

  8n  AOt  a

'

New Member 
8Worn­  

Oswald Partington,  Esquire,  Member  for  the 
County  of  Derby  (High  Peak  Division),  was 
sworn. 

Message from  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
the Lords.  Message  had  been  brought from  the  Lords  by 

one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth: 

Small 
The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled   An 
AUotmSteUd  Act   to  amend  the  Law  with  respect  to  Small 
Holdings and  Allotments  in  Scotland;  to  which 
(Scotland) 
Bill  [Lords.]   the  Lords  desire the  concurrence  of this  House. 

^ r om

The  Chairman  Of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
Local 
ProTiiona?'
Committee  on  the  Local  Government 
Orders (No. 9) Provisional  Orders  (No.  9) Bill;  That  they  had 
considered  the  Orders  therein  contained;  that 
Bill. 
*  e  said  Orders ought to be confirmed;  and that 
Lrder^i0nal 
they  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill,  with 
confirmed.] 
Amendments,  to the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Committee,  be  taken 
morrow. 

into  consideration  to­

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported 
Pier and 
Harbour 
from  the  Committee  on  the  Pier  and  Harbour 
Provisional 
Order (No. 1)  Provisional  Order  (No.  1)  Bill  [Lordsj ;  That 
they had considered the Order therein  contained; 
Bill  {Lords.] 
[Provisional 
that  the  said  Order  ought  to  be  confirmed; 
Order 
and  that  they  had  directed- him  to  report  the 
confirmed.] 
Bill,  with  Amendments,  to the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration 
morrow. 

to­

Gateshead and  The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
  Gateshead  and  District  Tramways  Bill 
Tramwavs
BilYfior^.J 

t te
[Lords'], with  Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Barry 
The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the 
Bailway^BiU  Committee  on  the  Barry  Railway  Bill  {Lords]  ; 
[Lor s.J 
That  they  had  examined  the  allegations  con­
tained  in the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and amended 
the  same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent  with  the 
provisions  of  the  Bill  as  passed  by  the  Com­
mittee,  and  found  the  same,  as  amended,  to  be 
true;  and  had  gone  through  the  Bill  and  made 
Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

26th  July. 

331 
Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  


Table  ;  and be  printed.  


Ordered,  That  the  Bank  Holidays  Bill   be  Bank Holiday® 

read a second  time to-morrow.

Bil1­

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon   cruelty  to 

Thursday next, the Crue Ity to Animals (Amend-  Animals 
ment)  Bill  was read, and discharged. 

^Amendment) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  the  9th  day  of  August  next. 

The House,  according  to Order, resolved  itself  Supply 

[17th  allotted 
bay.] 

into  the  Committee  of !  upply 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Navy  Estimates,  1909-10. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
a  sum not  exceeding  £3,148,200  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty,  to  defray  the  Expenses  for  the 
Personnel  for  Shipbuilding,  Repairs,  Mainten­
ance,  &c.,  including  the  cost  of  Establishments 
of  Dockyards  and  Naval  Yards  at  Home  and 
Abroad, which  will  come  in  course  of  payment 
during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of 
March  1910 : 

Whereupon  Motion  made, and  Question  pro­
posed,  That  a sum not exceeding  £3,148,100  be 
granted  for  the  said  Service.—(Mr.  Ellis.) 

Mr.  Jenkins  moved,  That  the  Chairman  do  Chairman 
report  Progress, and ask leave to  sit  again;  but declines to 
the  Chairman, being of  opinion  that  the  Motion ^r°ep^-®Bthe 
was an  abuse of  the Rules of  the House, declined  (Abuse of 
to  propose  the  Question  thereupon  to  the  Com-  Bales.) 
mittee. 

Question  put,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding 

£3,148,100  be granted  for  the  said  Service. 

The  Committee  divided: 
Tellers for  the f Mr.  Ellis, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.   Cobbold  : 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
(Captain  Norton  : 

Noes, 

Original  Question  again  proposed: 

98. 

280. 

And  it  being  after  Eleven   of  the  clock,  and 
objection  being  taken  to  further proceeding,  the 
Chairman  left  the  Chair  to  make  his Report  to 
the  House. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  acquainted  the 
House  that  the  Committee  had  made  Progress 
in  the  matter  to  them  referred  ;  and  that  he 
was directed  to  move,  That  the  Committee  may 
have leave to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again  resolve itself into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways and 

Committee of  Ways  and  Means; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board  the  Board of 
a K h e ' rL 
of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time BiU« 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Established 

Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church 
(Wales)  B i l l;  

„ 

(Wales)Bm. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

West Kent 
BiU [ Z o r ^T   K e n  t

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  the  West 

  E l e c t r ic

ments. 

VOL.  164. 

  Power  Bill  [Lords],  with Amend­

The Order of the day being  read, for resuming  Houses of 
the  adjourned  Debate on the  Amendment which, Parliament 

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[No. 104. 

upon  the  20th  day  of  April  last, was  proposed 
to  be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the  Houses 
of  Parliament  Bill  be now read  a  second  time  ; 

Ordered,  That the Debate   be further adjourned 

The Order  of  the  day being read, for receiving   Supply 

the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  22nd  day  of  this  instant  July  ; 

por . 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

till  Monday  next. 

Thursday  next. 

Places of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Places  of  Worship 

Second  Reading   of 
(Enfranchisement)  B i l l; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Buildings and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill;  

or  s  i  . 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

upon  Monday  next. 

Election of 
Aldermen  in 
Municipal 
Boroughs  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Election  of  Aldermen  in 
Municipal  Boroughs  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

The Order  of  the day being  read, for resuming   Cinemato­
the  adjourned  Debate   on  the  Question  proposed  graph BUI. 
upon  the  21st  day   of  April  last,  That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be now  read  a second  time  ; 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further  adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

Check-
weighing in 
various 
Industries 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the Checkweighing in  various 
Industries  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Dublin Police 
BiU. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading   of  the  Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Lunacy
(Ireland)  BUI. Second  Reading   of  the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  B i l l; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Local 
Government 
(Audit  of 
Accounts) 
(Ireland) BUI. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government 
(Audit   of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

County 
CouncUs 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading   of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Assistant 
Postmaster 
General  BiU. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 
General  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking London 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections  BiU   Elections BiU. 
(not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking Marine 
into  consideration  the  Marine  Insurance  (Gam-   insurance 
bling  Policies) Bill,   as  amended  in  the  Standing  ^ ^ f l m  . 
Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, &c. p ^  ^  
B i U; 

Bill?  

g ' 

& c 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking   Telegraph 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration)   (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee)  ;   1  ' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Wednesday  next. 

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Works 

Committee  on  the  Public  Works  Loans  B i l l;  

Loans  Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking   Board  of 
into  consideration  the  Board   of  Trade  Bill,  as 110(16 BUl. 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

Merchandise
Marks
(Ireland) Bill.

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Merchandise  Marks 

sideration  to-morrow. 

(

I

r e W ) B m . 

Ordered,  That the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Fisheries 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Fisheries  (Ireland)  B i l l; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Electric 
Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment)  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon  Monday  next. 

Finance. BiU. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Milk  and 
Second  Reading   of  the  Milk  and  Dairies  Bill;   Dairies BiU. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking Labour 
into  consideration  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill,   Exchanges 
as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ;

Eil1­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 
Second  Reading   of  the  London  Electric  Supply   Electric 
•g j j j.  

J  Supply  Bill. 

^ 

6 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  Jpiand 
Revenue  B i l l; 

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Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Oaths  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as  amended 
in  the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  further 

consideration  to-morrow. 

Licensed 
Premises 
(Election 
Da^) Closing 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 

into  consideration  the  Licensed  Premises  (Elec­

Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Thursday  next. 

Bishopric 
of  Sheffield 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric   of  Sheffield 
Bill,  as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Dogs 
(Exemption) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  28th  day   of  April  last,  That  the  Dogs 
(Exemption)  Bill   be  now  read  a  second  time; 

Ordered,  That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till  Tuesday  the  10th  day   of  August  next. 

Bishoprics  BiU  The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
[Lords.']  Second  Beading  of  the  Bishoprics  Bill  [Lords] ; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  the  23rd  day  of  August  next. 

Education 
The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Grant?Bill ° f  Second  Beading   of the  Education (Conditions   of 

ran 

.  Q-r a nt)  B i l l; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  the  9th  day   of  August  next. 

Cottage Homes  T he  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
for Aged 
Second  Beading   of  the Cottage  Homes  for Aged 
Persons Bill.   p e r 8 0 n  s  B i l l; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 
Second  Reading  of  the  Dogs'  Protection  B i l l;  Protection 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Wild  Birds 
Second  Reading   of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection  Protection 
B i l l;  

B l b-

8 

Ordered,  That the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,   Navy and 
resolve  itself  into  a  Committee   to  consider  the  ^^djtnre 
surpluses  and  deficits  upon  Navy  and  Army  ISWM. 
' 
Grants  for  1907-8,  and  the  application   of 
surpluses  to  meet  expenditure  not  provided  for 
in  the  Grants  for that  year. 

Ordered,  That  the  Appropriation  Accounts 
for  the  Navy  and  Army  Departments,  which 
were presented  on  the  16th day  of  February  last, 
be  referred  to  the  Committee. —  (Mr.  Joseph
Pease.) 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued   to  

sit  till  seventeen  minutes  after  Eleven   of  

the  clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow.  


[No.  105.] 

Tuesday, 21th July  1909. 

The  House  met  at  a quarter  of  an  hour 

before  Three   of  the  clock.  


P  R  A  T  E  B  S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Private Bills 

from  one  of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions for  [Lords]
(Standing 
! 'rivate  Bills,  That  in  the case of  the  following Orders not 
' Jill, originating  in the  Lords,  and  referred   on previously 
the  First  Reading  thereof,  the  Standing  Orders  inquired  into 
not  complied 
into,  and  which  are 
not  previously  inquired 
with.) 
applicable  thereto, have  not  been  complied  with, 
viz.:— 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

Glasgow  Corporation  Bill 

[Lords], 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  referred  to  the 

Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders. 

Municipal 
The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Corporations  Second  Beading   of  the  Municipal  Corporations 
^ctgymen)  (Qualification  of  Clergymen)  Bill  [Lords] 
BiU [Lords.]  Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

; 

to-morrow. 

Death 
Certificates 
(Charges) 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Death  Certificates 

Second  Beading   of 
(Charges)  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights) BilL 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Beading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Bights)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Eights of Way 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Beading  of  the  Bights   of  Way  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Cheap Trains 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Beading   of  the  Cheap  Trains  B i l l; 

The  Torquay  and  Paignton  Tramways  Bill  Torquay and 


[I*>rds]  was read  a second  time, and  committed.  Paignton  

Tramways 

Bill  [Lords.]


The  Dunoon  Burgh  Bill  [Lords']  was, accord-   Dunoon  Burgh 

ing  to  Order,  read  a  second  time,  and  c o m - B m  [ L o r d s-) 
mitted. 

The  Local  Government  Provisional  Orders   Local 

(No.   6)  Bill  was,  according   to  Order,  read  the  Government 
third  time  and  passed. 

S X f ( N o.   6) 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the Bill   to  BiJI­

the  Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

The  House,  according   to  Order,  proceeded   to  Local 

take  into  consideration  the  Local  Government   Government 
Provisional  Orders  (No.   9)  Bill,  as  amended  inoSIrefNo  9) 
the  Committee. 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

The  House,  according   to  Order,  proceeded  to  pi e r  and 
take  into  consideration  the  Pier  and  Harbour   Harbour 
Provisional  Order  (No.   1)  Bill  [Zortfs],  a s j ^ 8 1 ^ ** 
amended  in  the  Committee. 

Bill[Lords.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  


to-morrow. 

VO L.   164. 

to-morrow. 


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27 th July. 

1909. 

[No. 105. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie  upon the  Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 
Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Explosions 
(West  Stanley  Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Report  to  the 
Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department 
Colliery.)

on  the  circumstances  attending  an  Explosion 
which  occurred  in  the  workings  of  the  West 
Stanley  Colliery  on the  16th  February  1909. 

Shop Hours 

Act,  1904.  


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur­
suant to  the  directions of  an Act   of  Parliament, 
—Copies  of  Orders  made by the  Councils of  the 
Boroughs  of  Bradford  and Devonport  under the 
Shop  Hours  Act,  1904,  and  confirmed   by  the 
Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department, 
fixing  the  hours  of  closing  for  certain  classes 
of  Shops. 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Navigation 
and  Shipping. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,  —•  Copy  of  Annual  Statement  of 
Navigation and Shipping of the United  Kingdom 
for the year  1908. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Orders. 

Mr.  Howard  Whitbread  reported 

from  the 
Select  Committee who were appointed to  inquire 
and report  as to  the  Law  relating to  the making 
and  enforcement  of  Orders  under  the  Acts 
relating  to Bastardy,  and  to  report  whether  any 
and,  if  so,  what  amendments  are  required  in 
the  same,  and  to  whom  the  Bastardy  Bill  was 
committed;  That they had considered the matters 
to  them  referred,  and  directed  him  to  make  a 
Report  thereof  to  the  House,  together  with the 
Minutes  of  the  Evidence  taken  before  them, 
and  an  Appendix. 

No.  236. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Bastardy 
Orders. 

Bastardy  Bill. 

Mr.  Howard  Whitbread  reported  from  the 
Select  Committee  on  Bastardy  Orders, to  whom 
the  Bastardy  Bill  was  committed;  That  they 
had  agreed  to  report  the  said  Bill  to the  House 
without  Amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Debtors 
(Imprison­
ment.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  and  Evidence  of 

the  Select  Committee  on  Debtors  (Imprison­
ment)  in  Session  1908  be  referred  to  the  Select 
Committee  on  Debtors  (Imprisonment).—(Mr. 
Pickersgill.) 

Daylight 
Saving  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Minutes of  Evidence  taken 
before  the  Select  Committee  on  the  Daylight 
Saving  Bill  in  Session  1908  be  referred  to  the 
Select  Committee  on the  Daylight  Saving  Bill. 
—(Mr. Tomhinson.) 

Message from 
the Lords. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by 
one of their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

Local 
Government 
Provisional 
Order  (Poor 
Law)  Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to the  Local  Govern­
ment Provisional  Order  (Poor  Law)  Bill,  with­
out any  Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Local  Govern­
ment  Provisional  Orders  (No.  1)  Bill,  without 
any  Amendment. 

The  Lords have agreed to  the  Local  Govern­
ment  Provisional  Orders  (No.   2)  Bill,  without 
any  Amendment. 

Local 
Government 
Provisional 
Orders (No.  1) 
Bill. 
Local 
Government 
Provisional 
Orders (No. 2) 
Bill. 

The  Lords  have agreed  to  the  Local  Govern-  Local  


,

. 

ment  Provisional  Orders  (No.   3)  Bill,  without  Government  

Provisional 
n 
0 r d e rg  ( N o .  3 > 
any  Amendment.
Bill. 
The  Lords  have  agreed to  the  Local  Govern-  Local 

v

ment  Provisional  Orders  (No.  4)  Bill,  without pr°0vvef8^®f 
any  Amendment. 

Orders (No. 4> 
Bill. 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to the  Local  Govern-  Local 

ment  Provisional  Orders  (No.   5)  Bill,  without 
any  Amendment. 

Orders (No. 5> 
Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Local  Govern-Local 

ment  Provisional  Orders  (No.   8)  Bill,  without 
any  Amendment. 

Orders (No. 8> 
Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Hull  and  Hull and 

Barnsley  Railway  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to 
which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

Bill 

The  Lords have agreed to  the Central  London  Central 
Railway  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which  the ij™^11   B m 
  ' 
Lords  desire the  concurrence  of  this  House.
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments  Alliance and 

a  w ay  1

made by  this  House  to  the  Alliance  and  Dublin  Qoi^mers 
Consumers  Gas  Bill 
Amendment. 

[Lords],  without  any   GaH  B m  ' 
[Lords.-] 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Amendments  Westminster 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Westminster  City rs^frannua-
[Lords],  tion^&a)nUa 
Council  (Superannuation,  &c.)  Bill 
without  any  Amendment. 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Sunday  Closing  (Shops)  Sunday 

Bill  be read  a second  time upon  Monday  the  9th 
day  of  August  next. 

(Shops)  Bill. 

The  House, according   to Order, resolved itself  Supply 

into the  Committee  of  Supply. 

[mh allotted 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments 
Estimates,  1909-10. 
Class  II. 

Motion  made, and  Question  proposed,  That  a 
sum  not  exceeding  £33,900  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty,  to  complete 
the  sum  necessary  to 
defray  the  charge  which  will  come  in  course  of 
payment  during  the year  ending on the  31st  day 
of  March  1910 for  the  Salaries  and Expenses  of 
the  Department  of  His  Majesty's  Secretary  of 
State  for  the  Colonies,  including  a Grant  in  Aid 
of  certain  Expenses  connected  with  Emigration: 
Whereupon  Motion  made,  and  Question  pro­
posed,  That  Item  A 
(Salaries,  Wages,  and 
Allowances)  be  reduced  by  £100  in  respect  of 
the  Salary  of  the  Secretary  of  State.—(Mr. 
Henry  Joseph  Wilson.) 

And  it  being  a quarter  of  an hour  after  Eight 
of  the  clock,  and  there being  Private  Business 
set  down by  direction of the  Chairman  of  Ways 
and Means under  Standing  Order  No.  8, further 
proceeding  was postponed  without  Question  put. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for resuming  North  Eastern 

the  adjourned  Debate  on the  Amendment  which,  Railway  Bill 
upon  the  15th  day  of  this  instant  July,  was 
proposed  to  be made  to  the  Question,  That  the 
North  Eastern  Railway  Bill  [Lords]  be  now 
read  a second  time  ; 

Which Amendment was, to  leave  out  the  word 
"  now," and  at  the  end  of  the  Question  to  add 
the  words  "  upon  this day  three  months  " — ( M r. 
Summerbell)  ; 

And  the  Question  being  again proposed,  That 
the  word  "  now "  stand  part of  the  Question  :— 
The  House  resumed  the  said  adjourned  Debate. 
And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  put,  That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned 

 
 
 
 
No. 105.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

21th July. 

— (Mr.  Arthur  Henderson):—  
in  the  Affirmative. 

' 

It  was  resolved 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  upon 

Thursday  next. 

Postponed  proceeding  on  Question  proposed 
Supply (Civil 
011  consideration  of  Question,  That  a  sum not 
Revenueand 
Departments.)  exceeding  £33,900  be  granted  to  His  Majesty, 
to  complete  the  sum  necessary  to  defray  the 
charge  which  will  come  in  course  of  payment 
during the  year  ending on  the  3lst  day of  March 
1910  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses  of  the 
Department  of  His  Majesty's  Secretary of  State 
for  the  Colonies, including  a Grant  in  Aid  of 
certain  Expenses  connected  with  Emigration  ; 

Which  Question  was, That  Item  A  ( Salaries, 
Wages,  and Allowances)  be  reduced  by  £100  in 
respect  of  the  Salary  of  the  Secretary  of  State 
—(Mr.  Henry  Joseph  Wilson),—resumed. 

Question  put, That  Item  A  (Salaries,  Wages, 
and Allowances)  be  reduced  by  £100  in  respect 
of  the  Salary of the  Secretary  of  State. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  Mand 
Revenue  Bill;  

BevenueBm. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Navy and 
Committee  on  Navy  and  Army  Expenditure, Expenditure 
1907-8; 

1907-8. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order of the day being  read, for resuming  Sale of 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the Amendment  which,  intoxicating 
upon the  25th  day  of  June  last,  was proposed  to gj^^y Bill, 
be  made on  consideration  of the  Sale  of  Intoxi­
cating  Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill,  as amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Tuesday  next. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the f Sir  William Bull, 

Teas, 

TMr.  Ashley. 

Tellers for the l"Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

\ Captain  Norton : 

Original  Question  put,  and  agreed  to. 
Resolution  to be  reported. 

\ 
j 

47. 

142. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking   Oaths Bill, 

into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  further 

consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

And  it  being  after  Eleven  of  the  clock,  the 
Chairman  left  the  Chair  to  make  his  Report 
to  the  House. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy Chairman reported, That  the  Committee 
had come  to a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  also  acquainted  the 
House  that  he  was directed  to  move.  That  the 
Committee  may have  leave to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Bishopric  of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield Sheffield Bill. 
Bill,  as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Restraint  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Restraint  of  Trades  Trades  (Shops) 
(Shops)  Bill;  

BlU-

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours  of 

Second  Reading  of  the  flours  of  Labour  (Sur- labour 
facemen)  Bill; 

(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

to-morrow. 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Public Works 
Loans Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the  Public  Works  Loans  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into the  said  Committee. 

Board  of 
Trade  Bill. 

The  Order of the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Bank  Holidays 

Second  Reading  of  the  Bank  Holidays  Bill;  

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Municipal 
Second  Reading  of  the  Municipal  Corporations  Corporations 
(Qualification  of  Clergymen)  Bill  [Lords']  ; 

of  Clergymen) 
Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read' a second  time  BiU i^orAn.-] 

to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap Trains 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Second  Reading of  the  Cheap  Trains  Bill;  

B m-

sideration  to-morrow. 

Milk  and 
Dairies  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Milk  and  Dairies  B i l l; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Labour 
Exchanges 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill, 
as amended  in the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 

Second  Reading  of  the  Dogs'  Protection  Bill;  

Protection 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the wild  Birds 
Second  Reading  of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection   Protection 
B i l l;  

Bil1­

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill.  Bill; 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply 

VOL.   164.  


And  then  the  House,  having  continued   to 
sit till thirteen minutes after Eleven  of the 
clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow, 
tr u  4 

336 

28th July. 

1909. 

[NO.M 

[No.  106.] 
Wednesday, 28th July  1909. 
The  House  met  at  a quarter  of  an  hour 
before  Three   of  the  clock. 

' 

mental  Committee  on  Partial  Exemption  from 
School  Attendance.  Volume  I.,  Report.  

mental 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  Committee.) 

Table. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Local 

F T I HE   Local  Government;  Provisional  Orders 
(jfo.   9)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read 
J[ 

Orders (No.  9) the  third  time  and  passed. 
Bill> 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

The  Pier  and  Harbour  Provisional  Order 
Pierand 
CLords]  was,  according  to  Order, 
Frotfsiona]  
Order  (No. I)  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amend-
Bill  [Lords.']  ments. 

( N o  -

B i l1

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same, with  Amendments  ;  to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

Public 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

r e a (  * 5  a n  d  ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by His  Majesty's  Com­

Vide  Fourth 
Report. 
Land  Law 
lSST^vi^on  mand,—Copy  of  Return  under  Section  7 of  the 
Land  Law  (Ireland)  Act,  1887,  of  the  number 
Notices.) 
of  Eviction  Notices  filed  in  the  High  Court   of 
Justice  and  County  Courts  in  Ireland  during 
the  quarter  ended  on the  30th  June  1909. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Bankruptcy. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
No. 237.  directions  of  an  Act   of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Twenty-sixth  General  Annual  Report   by  the 
Board  of  Trade  on  Bankruptcy,  in  pursuance  of 
Section  131 of  the  Bankruptcy  Act,  1883. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

Army  Reserve.  Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  several  Acts   of  Parliament, 
Copy  of  further  Regulations  for  the  Army 
Reserve,  including  the  Special  Reserve. 

Army. 

Army. 

Copy  of  further  Rules  of  Procedure 

for 
Courts-Martial,  Rules  for  Military  Prisons  and 
Detention  Barracks,  and  Rules  for  Military 
Prisons  in the  Field. 

Copy  of  the  Revised  Scheme  made   by  the 
in  respect  of  the  Territorial 
Army  Council 
Force  Association  for  the  East  Riding   of  the 
County  of  York  (1908), 

Ordered,  That the  said  Papers do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Trade Reports 
Series?1 
er 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented, by  His 
Majesty's Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic  and 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series, Nos.  4314  and 
4316. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper   do  lie  upon  the 

Table 

Naval  Prize 
Money. 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act   of  Parliament,—-Account 
showing  the  Receipt  and  Expenditure   of  Naval 
Prize,  Bounty,  Salvage,  and  other  Moneys 
between  the  1st April  1908  and  the  31st  March 
1909. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Partial 
Som'lchool  Command,—— Copy  of  Report  of  the  Interdepart­

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 

Ordered, That  there be  laid  before  this  House   Trustee 
 ^  f 

Returns  for  the  year  ending  the  20th  day   pf
November  1908  (1)  from  each  Savings  Bank   in 
England  and  Wales,  Scotland,  Ireland,  and  the 
Channel  Islands,  containing,  in  columns,  the 
number of  such  Banks ;  the  number  of  accounts 
remaining  open;  the  total  amount  owing   to 
depositors;  the  total  amount  invested  with  the 
Commissioners for  the  Reduction of  the  National 
Debt,  excluding  the  surplus  fund ;  the  balance 
in the  hands of  the  treasurer  ;  the  total  amount 
of  the  separate  surplus  fund  in  the  hands  of 
the  Commissioners;  the  other  assets,  including 
the  estimated  value  of  the  Bank  premises,  fur­
niture, &c.;  the  total  assets ;  the  rate  of  interest 
paid  to  depositors  on  the  various  amounts  of 
deposit,  and  the  average  rate  of  interest  on 
all  accounts  ;  the  annual  expenses  of  manage­
ment,  inclusive  of  all  payments  and  salaries  ; 
the  rate  per  cent,  per  annum  on  the  capital 
of  the  Bank  for  the  expenses   of  management; 
the  average  cost  of  each  transaction  ;  the  total 
amount  of  Government  Stock  standing  to  the 
credit  of  depositors,  and  the  total  number  and 
amount  of  annuities  in  course  of  payment;  in­
cluding  in  such  Return  a  summary  of  all  such 
Savings  Banks  as,  under  the  provisions  of  the 
Act  26  Yict.  c.  14,  or  otherwise,  have  been 
closed  and have  transferred  their  funds,  or  any 
part thereof, to  the  Post  Office Savings  Bank  ; 
showing 
for  England,  Wales,  Scotland,  and 
Ireland,  and  the  United  Kingdom,  the  number 
of  such  Banks,  the  number  and  amount  of 
depositors' balances on the 20th day of  November 
previous to  date of  notice  to  close,  the  number 
and amount  of  accounts  so  transferred,  and  the 
amount of  compensation,  if  any,  made  to  all  or 
any  of  the  officers of  such  Banks;  and  showing 
in  separate  columns  the  particulars  relating  to 
such  Savings  Banks  as have  been  closed  during 
the  year  :  and  (2)  showing  the  total  number   of 
depositors  in  Trustee  Savings  Banks  ;  the  total 
number  of  deposits;  the  total  number  of  with­
drawals ;  the  average  amount  of  each  deposit 
account;  the  average  sums  paid  in  and  drawn 
out,  and  the  total  number  of  persons  who  have 
deposited 
in  single  sums  the  entire  amount 
allowed  to  be  deposited  during  the  year  (in 
continuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  265   of 
Session  1908).—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-  East  India 
sented to  His  Majesty, that  He will be graciously  ^eve^&c) 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid  (Native  and 
before  this  House  a  Return  showing  the  cases  European 
of  and  deaths  from  Enteric  Fever,  Cholera, Army.) 
(with  corresponding 
Plague,  and  Small-pox 
rates  per  thousand)  in  the  Native  Army  and 
among  European  Troops  in  India,  respectively, 
for  each  year  from  1900   to  1908,  inclusive.— 
(Sir  William  Collins.) 

Ordered, That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  Poor  Law 

a  Return  showing  in  how  many  and  what  Medical 
parishes  during  the  past  three  years  Poor  Law  Gotland y
Medical  Officers in  Scotland  have  vacated  office, 
and  what  period  in  each  case  has elapsed  before 
the appointments have been permanently refilled. 
—(Mr.  Cathcart  Wason.) 

Mr.  John  William  Wilson  reported  from  the   Standing. 
Standing  Committee  on  Scottish  Bills,  to  whom  Committee on 
the  House  Letting  and  Rating  (Scotland)  Bill 
was  referred;  That  they  had  gone  through  the  and  Rating 



 
No.  106.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

mh—mh  July.  335 

(Scotland) 
BUI. 
[Title 
amended.] 

Bill  and made  Amendments  thereunto;  and  had 
amended  the  Title,  as  followeth   — A  Bill  to 
amend  the  Law  as  to  the  letting  and  rating  of 
small  Dwelling-Houses  in  Scotland;  and  for 
other  purposes  relating  thereto. 

venience of parties, the Committee  had adjourned 
till  Tuesday  the  10th  day  of  August  next,   at 
half  an  hour  after  Eleven   of  the  clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


No. 238. 

No.  238. 

Bill 286. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

Ordered,  That the  Minutes  of  the  Proceedings 

of  the  Standing  Committee  be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee,  be taken into  consideration 
to-morrow;  and  be  printed. 

Debtors 
(Imprison­
ment.) 

Debtors 
(Imprison­
ment.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Minutes  of  Evidence  taken 

before  the  Select  Committee  on  Debtors  (Im­
prisonment)  in the  last  Session of  Parliament  be 
printed.—(Mr.  Picker spill.) 

Mr.  Pickersgill  reported  from  the  Select  Com­
mittee  on  Debtora  (Imprisonment);  That  they 
had considered  the  matters to  them referred, and 
directed  him to  make  a  Report  thereof   to  the 
the 
House,  together  with  the  Minutes   of 
Evidence  taken  before  them, and  Appendices. 

No.  239. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 
' 

Table ;  and  be  printed. 

The  Order  for  reading  the  third  time,  upon   Trustees' 
Friday  next,  the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill  was  Accounts  BiU. 
read,  and  discharged. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Friday  the  27th  day   of  August  next. 

Ordered,  That  the  Plumage  (Prohibition   of  Plumage 

Sale  or  Exchange  o f)  (No.   2)  Bill   be  read  a 
second  time  upon  Monday  the  9th  day   of  Exchange of> 
August  next. 

(No.  2)  BiU. 

from 

in  the 

the Local 

Mr.  Charles  Nicholson  reported 
Local  Legislation  Committee;  That  
case  of  the  Bury  Corporation  Bill  they  had   Bury 
examined  the  allegations  contained  in  the  Pre-  Corporation 
amble  of  the  Bill, and  amended  the  same  so  as  B i lL 
to  make  it  consistent with  the  provisions  of  the 
Bill  as  passed  by  the  Committee,  and  found  the 
same,  as  amended,  to  be  true;  and  had  gone 
through  the  Bill  and  made  Amendments  there­
unto. 

Message from 
the  Lords. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords   by 
one of  their  Clerks, as  followeth  : 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

Local 
Government 
Provisional 
Orders  (Gas) 
BUI. 

Metropolitan 
Commons 
Provisional 
Order  Bill. 

Sea Fisheries
Provisional
Order  Bill.

Hoiywood
Tramways

Midland  Great
aSf 6" 1  o {
Ireiaud  Bill,

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Local  Govern­
ment  Provisional  Orders  (Gas)  Bill,  with  an 
Amendment;   to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Metropolitan 
Commons  Provisional  Order  Bill,  with   an 
Amendment;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Sea  Fisheries 

(Tees)  Provisional  Order  Bill,  with  Amend­
  ments;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concur­

rence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Hoiywood 
Tramways  Bill,  with  Amendments  ;   to  which 
the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence   of  this  House. 
  The  Lords have  agreed   to the  Midland  Great 

  Western  Railway   of  Ireland  Bill,  with  Amend­
  ments;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concur­

rence of this  House. 

Blackwood 
Gas  Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Blackwood 
to  which  the 

Gas  Bill,  with  Amendments;  
Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this  House. 

Mr.  Jowett,  supported   by Mr.  Gill,  Mr.  Tyson   Factory  and 

Wilson,  Mr.  Kettey,  and  Mr.  William  Thome, 
presented  a Bill  to  regulate  night  employment  Amendment 
and  to  prohibit  week-end  employment  in certain  (No.  2)  Bill. 
Factories  and  Workshops:  And  the  same was  Bill  287. 
ordered  to  be  read  a second  time upon  Monday 
the  9th  day  of August  next;  and  to be  printed. 

A  Motion  was  made, and the  Question  being   Business of 
H°" s e 
u

put,  That  the  Proceedings  on  the  consideration  
of  Business  of  the  House  (Procedure),   if  under 
discussion  at  Eleven   of  the  clock  this  night, 
be  not  interrupted  under  the  Standing  Order 
(Sittings of  the House)—(The  Prime  Minister); 

1006

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas   to  the  R i g h t; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton  : 

.i 

c 
m  n 
Tellers  for the I 
JNoes, 

fSir  Alexander  Acland-

H o o ^ 

[Viscount  Valentia : 

185. 

67. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendment  made   by  the 

So it  was resolved in  the  Affirmative. 

Lords  to  the  Local  Government  Provisional 
  Orders  (Gas)  Bill   be  taken  into  consideration 

Ordered,  That  Sir  Henry  Aubrey-Fletcher   be  Privileges, 

discharged  from the  Committee   of  Privileges. 

Local

Pro-riSmai
Orders (Gas)
BiU.

to-morrow. 

Metropolitan 
Commons 
Provisional 
Order  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendment  made   by  the 
Lords  to  the Metropolitan  Commons  Provisional 
Order  Bill  be  taken 
morrow. 

into  consideration  to­

Sea Fisheries 
(Tees) 
Provisional 
Order BiU. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  made  by  the 
Lords  to  the  Sea  Fisheries  (Tees)  Provisional 
Order  Bill  be  taken 
morrow. 

into  consideration  to­

South  Eastern 
and  London, 
Chatham, 
and  Dover 
Bail ways BiU 
[Lord».] 

Mr.  Soames reported  the  South  Eastern  and 
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill 
[.Lords],  with  Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and   be  printed. 

Bailway  Bills 
(Group  5.) 

Mr.  Soames reported  from  the  Committee  on; 

Group  5  of  Railway  Bills;  That,  for  the  eon-

VOL.  164. 

Ordered,  That  Colonel  Lockwood.  be  added  to 

the  Committee.—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

The  House  was  moved,  That  the  Standing   Business  of 

Order  No.  81  (Deputy  Speaker  and  D e p u t y t he   House 
Chairman)  [of  20th  July  1855,  and   of  11th  g o j s  W 
February  1902]  might  be  read;  and  the  same (Deputy 
was read, as followeth: 
• 

Speaker and 
Deputy 

f 

' 

(1)  Whenever  the  House  shall   be  informed  Chairman.) 

by  the  Clerk  at  the  Table   of  the  unavoidable 
absence  of  Mr.  Speaker  the  Chairman   of  the 
Committee  of  Ways  and  Means  shall  perform 
the  duties  and exercise  the  authority  of  Speaker 
in  relation  to  all proceedings  of  this  House,  as 
Deputy  Speaker,  until  the  next  meeting   of  the 
House,  and  so  on from  day   to  day,  on the  like 
information  being  given  to  the  House,  until  the 
House  shall  otherwise  order;  provided  that   if 
the  House  shall  adjourn  for  more  than  twenty-
four  hours  the  Deputy  Speaker  shall  continue 

x  x 

 
 
 
 
 
 
338 

to  perform  the duties and  exercise  the  authority 
of  Speaker  for  twenty-four  hours  only  after 
such  adjournment. 

(2)   At  the  commencement  of  every  Parlia­
ment,  or  from time  to  time,  as  necessity  may 
arise, the  House  may  appoint  a  Deputy  Chair­
man, who shall, whenever  the House  is informed 
by  the  Clerk  at  the  Table  of  the  unavoidable 
absence  of  the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means, 
be  entitled  to  exercise  all  the  powers  vested  in 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means,  including 
his powers  as Deputy  Speaker. 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made to 
the  Standing  Order,  in  paragraph  (2),  1. 4,  by 
leaving  out  the  words  "House  is  informed  by 
the  Clerk  at  the  Table  of  the  unavoidable 
absence  of the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means," 
and inserting the words  "  Chairman of Ways and 
Means  is  absent"—(The  Prime  Minister),— 
instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
left  out  stand  part  of  the 

proposed  to  be 
Standing  Order; 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas to  the  R i g h t;  

The  Noes to the  Left. 


m  ii 
Tellers  for  the I  H o o d>  

e 

fSir  Alexander  Acland-

leas, 

[Viscount  Valentia: 

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton: 

Noes, 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 

. 

[No. 106. 

been  withheld), That the  Question, That certain 
words of  the  Clause  defined  in the  Motion stand 
part of the  Clause, or That  the Clause stand part 
of  or  be  added  to  the  Bill, be  now  put.  Such 
Motions  shall  be  put  forthwith,  and  decided 
without  Amendment  or  Debate. 

(3)  Provided  always,  that  this Rule  shall   be 
put  in  force  only  when  the  Speaker  or  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and Means  is in the  Chair. 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Standing  Order, in  1. 25, by  inserting at the 
end thereof  the  words— 

" ( 3)  A  Motion  may   be  made  (the  assent  of 

the  Chahyas  aforesaid,  not  having  been  with­
held) that  with  respect to  certain  words defined 
in the  Motion, or  a certain  Clause  or  Schedule, 
the  Chair  be  empowered  to  select  the  Amend­
ments to  be proposed.  Such  a  Motion  shall  be 
put forthwith, and decided  without  Amendment 
or  Debate. 
If  the  Motion  is  carried the  Chair 
shall then  and  thereafter  exercise  the  power  of 
selecting  the  Amendments  to  be  proposed  on 
the  words,  Clause,  or  Schedule."—(The  Prime 
Minister.) 

And  the Question  being  proposed,  That  those 

words  be there  inserted  : 

7 5 . 

]
I 
J 
I  J  99 
J 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made to 
the  said  proposed  Amendment,  by inserting,  in 
1. 1, at the beginning,  the  words "  In  Committee 
of  any  Bill  other  than  a  Finance  Bill."  — 
(Captain  Craig.) 

And  the  Question being  put, That those words 

be  there  inserted; 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
"  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  is  absent"  be 
there inserted  :—It  was resolved  in the Affirma­
tive. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Standing  Order,  by  inserting,  in 
paragraph  (2),  1. 4, after the words last  inserted, 
the  words  " f r om  the  Chair."—(The  Prime 
Minister.) 

And  the Question  being  put, That those Words 
inserted:—It  was  resolved  in  the 

be  there 
Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Standing  Order,  by 
inserting, 
after  the  words  last  inserted,  the  words  "  and 
the  House  by  Resolution  so  orders."—(Captain 
Craig.) 

And the  Question  being put, That those words 
be  there inserted  :—It  passed  in  the  Negative. 

The  House  was  moved,  That  the  Standing 
Standing 
Older No. 26. 	 Order No. 26 (Closure of Debate) [of 18th March 
1887, and  of  7th  March  1888]  might  be  read  ; 
and the same was read,  as followeth  : 

(1)  After  a  Question  has  been  proposed  a 
Member rising  in  his  place  may  claim to  move, 
That  the  Question  be  now  put,  and,  unless  it 
shall  appear to  the Chair that such  Motion  is an 
abuse of the Rules of  the House, or  an infringe­
ment of the rights of the minority, the  Question, 
That  the  Question  be  now  put,  shall  be  put 
forthwith,  and  decided  without  Amendment  or 
Debate. 

(2)  When  the  Motion,  That  the  Question   be 
now  put,  has  been  carried,  and  the  Question 
consequent  thereon  has  been  decided,  any 
further  Motion  may  be  made  (the  assent  of 
the  Chair, as  aforesaid,  not  having  been  with­
held)  which  may  be  requisite  to  bring  to  a 
decision  any  Question  already  proposed  from 
the  Chair;  and also, if  a  Clause  be  then under 
consideration,  a  Motion  may  be  made  (the 
assent  of  the  Chair,  as  aforesaid,  not  having 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers  for the f Captain  Craig, 

Yeas, 

(Viscount  Morpeth : 

Tellers for  the f Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

[Captain  Norton: 

So  it passed  in the  Negative. 

}  65. 

1 2 0 7. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  bo 
made  to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  by 
inserting,  in  1.  1,  at  the  beginning,  the  words 
"  If  a Clause has been  under  consideration  for a 
reasonable time."—(Mr.  Laurence  Hardy.) 

And  the Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted  :— The  Amendment  to 
the  said proposed  Amendment was, with leave of 
the  House,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  by 
inserting,  in  1.  2,  after  the  word  "  words,"  the 
words "  in a Motion,  Clause,  or  Schedule  under 
Debate."—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

And  the Question being put, That those words 
in  the 
inserted:—It  was  resolved 

be  there 
Affirmative. 

Another Amendment  was proposed to  be made 
to  the said proposed Amendment, as amended, in 
1.  3,  by  leaving  out  the  words  "  or  a  certain 
Clause or  Schedule."—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  said 
proposed  Amendment,  as  amended:—It  passed 
in  the  Negative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to  the said proposed Amendment, as amended, in 
1. 3, by  leaving  out  the words  "  the  Chair,"  and 
inserting  the  words "  a  Committee  of  Business 
consisting  of  the  Speaker,  the  Chairman  of 
Ways  and  Means,  and  Three  other  Members  " 
—(Mr.  Laurence  Hardy),—instead  thereof. 

mh—mh  July. 

339 
said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended,  was, 
with leave of  the  House,  withdrawn. 

No. 106.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words  "  the  Chair "  stand  part of  the  proposed 
Amendment:—The  Amendment to the said pro­
posed  Amendment,  as  amended, was, with  leave 
of the  House,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to  be  made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended, 
by  inserting, in  1. 4, after the word  "  proposed," 
the words  "  but  this power  shall not  be  exercised 
by  the  Chairman  of  a  Standing  Committee." 
—(Mr.  Laurence  Hardy.) 

And  the Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted :—The  Amendment  to 
the  said proposed  Amendment,  as amended, was, 
with leave  of  the House,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended, 
in  1. 4, by leaving  out the  words "  Such a Motion 
shall  be  put  forthwith,  and  decided  without 
Amendment  or  Debate."—(Sir  Frederick  Ban-
bury.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed to  be  left  out. stand  part of  the 
proposed  Amendment:—And  a  Debate  arising 
thereupon; 

Mr.  Speaker 
declines to 
propose  the 
Question 
(Abuse of 
Bules.) 

Mr.  Renwick moved,  That  the  Debate  be  now 
adjourned;  but  Mr.  Speaker,  being  of  opinion 
that the  Motion  was  an abuse  of  the  Rules  of 
the  House,  declined  to  propose  the  Question 
thereupon  to the  House. 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed,  That 
the  words  proposed  to  be left  out  stand  part of 
the  proposed  Amendment:—The  Amendment  to 
the  said  proposed  Amendment,  as amended, was, 
with  leave of the  House,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the  said proposed  Amendment,  as  amended, 
in  1.  6,  by  inserting, after  the  word "  Amend­
ments," the  words "  or  any  subsequent  Amend­
ments  which  the  Debate  arising  on  the  selected 
Amendments  may  show to  be  desirable."—(Sir 
Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  the Question  being  put, That  those  words 

be  there inserted :—It  passed  in the  Negative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be  made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended, 
in  1.  7, by  leaving  out  the  words  "  Clause  or 
Schedule," and inserting  the words  "  so defined  " 
—(Mr.  Herbert  Samuel),—instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 

proposed to  be left  out  stand  part  of  the  pro­
posed  Amendment,  as  amended  :—It  passed  in 
the  Negative. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
"  so defined "  be there inserted:—It was resolved 
in  the  Affirmative. 

Another Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made 
to  the said proposed  Amendment,  as amended, in 
1. 7,  by  adding,  after the  words  last inserted,  the 
words  "  and the  Debate  upon  such  Amendments 
shall not  be subject  to Closure."—(Sir  Frederick 
Banbury.) 

And  the  Question being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be there  added :—The  Amendment  to  the 
said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended,  was, 
with  leave  of  the  House,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  was proposed  to be  made 
to the  said  proposed  Amendment, as amended, in 
1. 7, by  adding,  after the  words  last inserted, the 
words  " provided  that  nothing  in  this paragraph 
shall render  it incompetent  thereafter to  propose 
Amendments  to  the Amendments so selected  and 
proposed."—(Mr.  Mitchell-Thomson.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be there  added: —The  Amendment   to  the 

VOL.   164. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be  made 
to  the  said proposed Amendment, as amended, in 
1. 7, by  adding,  after the  words  last inserted,  the 
words  " provided  that no Amendment  containing 
any  point  of  substance  shall be  passed  over."— 
(Mr. Laurence  Hardy.) 
'  And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
iwords  be  there  added: 

And 

the  House  having  continued  
to  sit 
i"till  after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Thursday 
morning; 

; 

Thursday, 29th July  1909 : 

The  Amendment to  the  said proposed  Amend­
jment,  as amended, was,  with  leave  of  the  House, 
withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to the  said proposed  Amendment, as amended, in 
1. 7, by  adding, after the  words  last inserted,  the 
words  "  except  that  the  Chairman  may,  if  he 
thinks fit, ask any  Member who  has given notice 
of  an  Amendment  to  give  such  explanation  of 
the  object  of  the  Amendment  as may  enable  the 
Chairman to form a judgment as to its character." 
•—(Mr.Balfour.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words be  there  added :—The  Amendment  to  the 
said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended,  was, 
with  leave  of  the  House,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be  made 
to  the  said proposed  Amendment,  as amended, in 
1. 7, by  adding,  after the  words last inserted, the 
words "  the  Chair  may,  if  the  Chair  thinks  fit,
ask  any  Member  who  has  given  notice  of  an 
Amendment  to  give  such  explanation  of  the 
object  of  the  Amendment  as  may  enable  the 
Chair  to  form  a  judgment  upon 
it.''—(The 
Prime  Minister.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  those 
words  be  there  added:—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended, 
by  adding, after the  words last  added, the  words 
"  Provided  that the  power  of  selection  shall  not 
be  exercised  by  the  Chairman  of  a  Standing 
Committee."—(Mr.  Laurence  Hardy.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That,  those 
words  be  there  added:—It  was resolved  in the 
Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended, 
in  1. 7,  by  adding,  after  the  words  last  added, 
the  words  "  but such  Motion  shall  not  be  made 
after One a.m. of  the  clock, and  on Fridays  after 
Five  p.m."—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

And the  Question  being  put, That those words 

be  there  added; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
. 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the (Sir  Frederick  Banbury, 

Yeas, 

(Lord  Robert  Cecil: 

Tellers  for thefMr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Captain  Norton: 

J 
"(  , fi„
J 

So it  passed in  the  Negative. 
And  the  Main  Question  being  put,  That  the 

amended  words— 

" ( 3  )  A  Motion  may  be  made  (the  assent of 
the Chair, as aforesaid, not having been withheld) 
that  with  respect  to  certain  words  in a  Motion, 
Clause,  or  Schedule  under  Debate defined in  the 
x  x  2 

28th-—'29th  July. 

1909.  FFO 106. 


If  the  Motion 

Motion,  the  Chair  be  empowered  to  select  the 
Amendments  to  be  proposed.  Such  a  Motion 
shall  be  put  forthwith,  and  decided  without 
Amendment  or  Debate.  
is 
carried  the  Chair  shall  then  and  thereafter 
exercise  the  power  of  selecting  the  Amendments 
to  be  proposed  on the  words  so  defined.  The 
Chair  may,  if  the  Chair  thinks  fit,  ask  any 
Member  who  has given  notice of  an Amendment 
to  give  such  explanation  of  the  object  of  the 
Amendment  as  may  enable  the  Chair  to  form  a 
judgment  upon  it.  Provided  that  the  power  of 
selection  shall not be  exercised  by the  Chairman 
of  a  Standing  Committee,"  be  inserted  at  the 
end of  L 25 of  the  Standing  Order; 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to the  R i g h t;  

The  Noes to  the  Left.  

Tellers  for  thej Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

m  n 
r 
Tellers  for  thej  
Noes, 

f Sir  Alexander  A cland-

H o  < 

[Viscount  Valentia : 

161. 


79. 

So it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 
And  the Standing  Order was further amended, 
in  1. 28,  by  inserting,  after  the  word  "  Means," 
the  words  " o  r  Deputy  Chairman."—(Mr.  John 
William. Wilson.) 

Standing
Order No. 27.

Thq  House  was  moved,  That  the  Standing 
  Order  No.  27  (Majority  for  Closure)  [of  the 
28th  February  1888]  might  be  read;  and  the 
same  was read,  as followeth : 

Questions  lor  the  Closure  of  Debate  under 
Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate)  shall  be 
decided  in  the  Affirmative  if,  when  a  Division 
be  taken,  it  appears  by  the  numbers  declared 
from  the  Chair  that  not  less than  one  hundred 
Members  voted  in  the  majority  in  support  of 
the  Motion. 

And  the  Standing  Order  was  amended,  in 
1.  1,  by  inserting,  after  the  word  "  Debate,"  the 
words  " o  r  selection  of  Amendments."—(The 
Prime  Minister.) 

T h  e  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 

  of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill; 

t h e B o i d rf
Agriculture
and Fisheries

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

Supply.

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Supply; 

Resolved,  That  this,  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Telegraph
(Arbitration)

1  '

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
i n t n  consideration  the  Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee); 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

,

  sideration  this  day. 

Supply 
[27th  July] 
•Report. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply, of 
the 27th  day  of  this instant  July  ; 

, 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  this 

day. 

Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Public Works
Loans Bill.

T he  O r d er   o f  the  day  being  read,  f or  the 

Committee  on  the  Public  Works  Loans  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking   Board of 
into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill,  as  Trade  Bill, 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ;' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Milk and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Milk  and  Dairies  Bill;

Dairies  BilL 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking Labour 
into  consideration  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill, Exchanges 
as  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply   ^ect1r|cBini 
Bill;  

k  p 

' 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland I" land 
t , 
Revenue  liill; 

t»-ii 

Bevenue  Bill. 

. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Navy and 

Committee  on  Navy  and  Army  Expenditure,  ^ r my 
1907-8 |

Expenditure, 
1907-8. ' 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking   Bishopric of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric   of  Sheffield  Sheffield Bill. 
Bill,  as  amended  in: the  Standing  Committee  ; 
•  Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­
sideration  this  day. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Hours of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Hours of  Labour (Bake-   Labour 
houses) Bill ; 

V  

^ e h o u s e s) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Hours  of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Hours   of  Labour  (Sur-   Labour 
f acemen)  B i l l;  

^Surfacemen) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Bank 

Second  Reading   of  the  Bank  Holidays  Bill;  

Holidays  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Municipal 
Second  Reading   of  the  Municipal  Corporations PonaHfl^8 
(Qualification  of  Clergymen)  Bill  [Lords]  ; 

of  Clergymen) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time  B i li 

lLords^ 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 

Second  Reading   of  the  Dogs'  Protection  Bill;  Protection 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time  


Bill. 


this  day.  


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


M  106.]  9  EDW.  VII. 
WUd Birds 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  thei 
Second  Beading  of  the  Wild  Birda  Protection 
Bill; 

28th—2Mh July. 


Ordered, That  the Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of  the 
clock on Wednesday evening, Mr. Speaker 
adjourned  the  House  without  Question 
put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order,  it 
being  then  twenty  minutes  before  One   of 
the  clock  .on  Thursday  morning,  till  this 
day. 

[ N o. 

1 0 7 .] 

Thursday,  29th July 1909. 
The  House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—  Report 

from one of the Examiners of  Petitions for 
Private  Bills, That  in the  case  of  the  following 
Bills, originating  in  the  Lords,  and referred  on 
the  First  Reading  thereof,  the  Standing  Orders 
which are  applicable  thereto  have been  complied 
with,  viz.:— 

Electric  Lighting  Provisional  Orders 

(No.  1)  Bill  [Lords'],

Gas  and  Water  Orders  Confirmation  Bill 

[Lords],

Tramways  Orders"  Confirmation  Bill 

[L.ords], 

Ordered, That the  Bills  be  read  a second  time' 

to-morrow. 

-

Provisional 
Order Bills 
XLords']
{Standing 
Orders 
applicable 
thereto 
complied 
with.) 

South Western 
and Isle of 
Wight 
Junction 
Bailway  Bill 
XLordi.] 

A  Motion  being  made,  That  the  South 
Western  and  Isle  of  Wight  Junction  Bjailway 
Bill  [Lords]  be now  read  the  third  time ; ; 
...  Mr.  Burns,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted  the  House  that  His  Majesty,  having 
been  informed of  the  purport  of  the  Bill,  gives 
His  Consent,  as  far  as  His  Majesty's  interest 
is concerned,  that the  House  may  do  therein  as 
they  shall think  fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and 

., with  Amendments. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to: 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the same, with Amendments  ;  to 
which this  House doth  desire  the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

North Eastern 
Bailway BUI 
[Lords.] 

The Order of  the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned  Debate  on the Amendment  which, 
upon  the  15th  day  of  this  instant  July,  was 
proposed  to  be  made to  the  Question,  That  the 
North  Eastern  Bailway  Bill  [Lords]  be  now 
read  a second time  ; 

Which  Amendment  was, to leave  out  the word 
"  now,"  and  at the  end  of  the  Question  to  add 
the words  "  upon  this day three  months  " — ( M r. 
Summerbelt); 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed,  That 
the word  "  now "  stand part of  the  Question  :— 
The  House  resumed  the  said adjourned  Debate. 

And the Question being put:—It was resolved 

in the  Affirmative. 

And  the  Main  Question  being  put; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  now read  a  second 
time :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  a  second 
time, and  committed. 

VOL.  164. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to  Local 

take  into  consideration  the  Amendment  m a  ^ e  p^®™1?®^ 
by  the  Lords  to  the  Local  Government  Pro-   orders  (Gas) 
visional  Orders  (Gas)  Bill;  and  the  same was Bill, 
twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendment  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to Metropolitan 

take  into  consideration  the  Amendment  made 
by  the  Lords  to  the  Metropolitan  Commons order BiU. 
Provisional  Order  B i l l;  and  the  same  was 
twice  read, and agreed  to. 

' 

-

. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them that  thiB  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendment  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

T 

The  House,  according   to  Order, proceeded  to  Sea Fisheries 

take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  p^p- o n al 
by  the  Lords  to  the  Sea  Fisheries  (Teses)  Pro- orde^Bill. 
visional  Order  Bill;  and  the  same  were;  twice 
read, and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint; them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made by  their 
Lordslups. 

i 

Mr.  Mastermanpresented  a  Bill  to  confirm a  Marriages 
Provisional  Order  made  by one of  His  Majesty's  Provisional 
Principal  Secretaries  of  State  under. the  Pro- g ^ f ,  c 
visional  Order  (Marriages)  Act,  1905. 

Bill 288. 

Ordered,  That  Standing  Order  193a  be 
suspended,  and  that  the  Bill  be  now  read the 
first  time.  —  (The  Chairman  of  Ways  5 and 
Means;) 

< 

The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the first time. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the 
Examiners.of  Petitions  for  Private  Bills;  and-
be  printed. 

, 

• • 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and Public 

read j  a nd  ordered to  lie upon  the  Table. 

r 

Petitions. 
v  Vide Fourth 

Secretary  Sir Edward  Grey  presented, by  His  Trade  Beports 

•  •••-.' i  Report. 

Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic  andCA^nual 
Consular  Beports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4313,
4317,  and  4319. 

  ^ 

e

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do. lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com-   Prisons 
mand,—  Copy   of  Thirty-first  Beport  of  the  C^land.) 
General  Prisons  Board  (Ireland),  for  1908-9, 
with  an  Appendix. 

Copy  of  Criminal  and  Judicial  Statistics of  Criminal and 

Ireland  for  the  year  1908.  Part  I.,  Criminal 
Statistics. 

Statistics 
(Ireland.) 

Ordered, That the said  Papers  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  —  Return  to  an Cyprus, 
Order,  dated  the  26th  day  of  this instant July,  No.  240. 
for  a Return  relative  to  Cyprus. 

Ordered, That  the  said Return  do lie upon  the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

The  following  Papers,  pursuant to  the  direc­
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,  were  laid 
upon the  Table by  the  Clerk of the  House :— 

Annual  Accounts   of  the  Chamberlain  of  Chamber of 

London  for  the  years  1908  and  1909. 

London. 

No. 241. 

Copy  of  One  Hundred  and Fourth  Report of  Caledonian 

the  Commissioners of the  Caledonian  Canal. 

. 

Canal. 

No  242 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers be  printed.  

x  x  3  


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­
29th July. 


Sir  David  Brynmor  Jones  reported 

from 
Standing 
Committee  A.  Standing  Committee   A ,  to  whom  the  Super-
Superannua­
tion  BiU.  	

annuation  Bill  was  referred;  That  they  had  ture,  1907-8. 
gone  through  the  Bill  and  made  Amendments 
thereunto. 

The  House,  according   to Order, resolved  itself Navy and 
into  a  Committee  on  Navy  and  Army  Expeudi- E^ n (y t u r (,

( In the  Committee.) 

1907^8. 

No  243. 

No. 243. 

Bill  289. 

Finance 
[Expenses] 
(Consolidated 
Fund.) 	

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

of  the  Standing  Committee  be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Ordered,  That  the  Minutes  of  the  Proceedings  thereto, 

I.  Whereas  it  appears  by  the  Navy  Appro-
priation  Account  lor  the  year  ended  the  31st 
day of  March  1908, and the  Statement  appended 
that  the  aggregate  expenditure   on 
Navy  Services  has  not  exceeded  the  aggregate  

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  sums appropriated  for  those  Services,  but  that,  

Standing  Committee,  be  taken  into consideration  as shown  in  the  Schedule  hereto  appended,  the  

upon  Monday  next;  and  be  printed. 
total  differences between  the  Exchequer  Grants  

for  Navy  Services  and  the  net  expenditure  are  


A  Motion  being  made,  That  this  House  will,  as follows, viz.   :—  


£, 

Total  Surpluses 

to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee   to 
consider  of  authorising  the  payment,  out   of 
moneys  provided by  Parliament, of  any expenses 
or  remuneration  payable  in  connection  with  any  

valuation  of  land  or premises  for  the  purposes   of 
any  duty  charged  under  any  Act   of  the  present 
Session  relating  to  Finance,  and of  authorising 
the  payment,  out  of  the  Consolidated  Fund,   of 
And  whereas  the Lords Commissioners   of  His 
such  sums	  as  may  be  chargeable  under  such  Majesty's  Treasury  have  temporarily  authorised 
A c t  ; 
the  application  of  so  much  of  the  said  total 
Mr.  Hobhouse,   by  His  Majesty's  Command,  surpluses on  certain  Grants  for Navy  Services   as 
is necessary  to  make  good  the  said  total  deficits 

s.  d. 
888,815  18  5 

acquainted  the  House  that  His  Majesty,  having 
been  informed  of  the  subject-matter   of  this  on  other  Grants  for  Navy  Services  : 
Motion,  recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of 
the  House. 

1.  Motion  made, and  Question  put,  That  the 
application  of  such  sums  be  sanctioned.—(Mr. 

-  £168,343  12  11 

720,472  5  6

Total  Deficits 

Net Surplus 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,  aobhouse.)

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Message from  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
the  Lords. 
Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords   by 
one  of their  Clerks,  as  followeth  : 

Marriages 
Provisional 
Order BiU.  	

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Marriages 
Provisional  Order  Bill,  without  any  Amend-
ment. 

SUgo and 
Bundoran 
Railway  Bill.  	

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Sligo  and 
Bundoran  Railway  Bill,  with  Amendments  ;   to 
S H 
which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence   of  this  •9  o 
e> 
House. 	

London 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to the  London  County 
County 
Council  (Tramways  and  Improvements)  BiU, 
Council 
(Tramways  with  Amendments;   to  which  the  Lords  desire 
and  Improve- the  concurrence   of  this  House. 
ments)  BilL 

Child  Murder 
(Trial)  Bill 
[Lords.'] 

BiU 290. 	

The  Child  Murder  (Trial)  Bill  [Lords]  was 
read  the  first  time,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a 
second  time  upon  Monday  n e x t;  and   to  be 
printed. 

Isle of  Man 
(Customs) 	
BiU. 

BUI 291. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented  a  Bill   to  amend  the 
Law  with  respect   to  Customs  in  the  Isle   of 
Man  :  And  the  same  was  ordered   to  be  read  a 
second  time  to-morrow  ;  and  to be  printed. 

Business of 
the  House 
(Supply.) 	

Ordered,  That  the  Proceedings  in  Committee 
on  Navy  and  Army  Expenditure,  1907-8,  have 
precedence  this  day   of  the  Business of  Supply.  

— ( T he  Prime  Minister.) 

Business of 
the  House  	
(Labour 	
Exchanges 	
BiU.) 	

A  Motion  was  made,  and  the  Question  being  

put,  That  the  Proceedings   on  the  Labour 
Exchanges  Bill,   if  under  discussion  at  Eleven 
of  the  clock  this night,  be  not  interrupted  under  

the  Standing  Order  (Sittings   of  the  House)— 
(The  Prime  Minister);  


The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  R i g h t; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the J" Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

[Captain  Norton: 
[Sir  Alexander  Acland-

Tellers  for  t h e f  S 

Noes 
5 

\  H o o d > 
I Lord  Edmund  Talbot ' .I 

So  it  was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 

.r  • 

173. 

45. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the ("Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
(Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

j-167. 

Tellers  for the  f Sir  Frederick  Banbury, 

„e 

Noes, 

( M r.  Ashley. 

J 

Schedule. 

Navy  Services,  1907-8. 

Differences between  Exchequer 
Grants and Net  Expenditure. 

Votes. 

Surpluses. 

Deficits. 

Wages, &c. of  Officers, Seamen, 
and Boys,  Coast  Guard,  and 
Royal  Marines. 

Victualling  and  Clothing  for 

the  Navy. 

s.  d. 

£ 

t.  d.
155,329  8  3

40,556  7  6

Medical  Establishments  and 

14,258  4  1

Services. 
Martial  Law 

-

Educational  Services 

Scientific Services 

-

Royal Naval  Reserves 

Shipbuilding,  Repairs,  Main 

tenance,  &c.: 

I.  Personnel  -

II.  Materiel 

-

1,321  4  0

12,302  2  4 

4,757  16  8

66,804  14  1

III.  Contract Work  -

193,737  11  6 

9  Naval Armaments 

-

10  Works, BuUdings, and  Repairs, 
at Home and  Abroad. 
11  Miscellaneous Effective Services 

241,905  6  6 

304,827  2  5 

41,987  14  2

12 

Admiralty Office 

-

-

-

6,914  2  8 

13  Half  Pay, Reserved and  Retired 

Pay. 

14  Naval  and  Marine  Pensions, 

Gratuities,  and  Compassion­
ate AUowances. 

15 

Civil  Pensions and Gratuities  -

Amount  written  ofE  as  irre-

coverable. 

167,302  8  4 

310,720  12  &

19,768  1  8 

18,855  16  0

4,391  15  5

3,547  15  11 

Total 

-

-

888,815  18  5 

720,472  5  6

Net  Surplus 

£168,343  12  11 













No. 107.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

II.  Whereas  it  appears by  the  Army  Appro­
priation  Account  for  the  year  ended  the  31st 
day of  March  1908, and the  Statement  appended 
thereto,  that  the  aggregate  expenditure  on 
Army  Services  has  not  exceeded  the  aggregate 
sums appropriated  for  those  Services,  but  that, 
as shown  in  the  Schedule  hereto  appended, the 
total differences between  the  Exchequer  Grants 
for  Army  Services  and  the  net  expenditure  are 
as follows, viz.  :— 

Total  Surpluses 

Total  Deficits 

- 

- 

£. 

s.  d. 
687,278  13  9 

68,820  13  10 

Net Surplus 

-  £618,457  19  11 

And  whereas  the Lords Commissioners of  His 
Majesty's  Treasury  have temporarily  authorised 
the  application  of  so  much  of  the  said  total 
surpluses  on  certain  Grants for  Army  Services 
as  is  necessary  to  make  good  the  said  total 
deficits  on  other  Grants  for  Army  Services : 

2.  Resolved, That the  application of  such sums 

be  sanctioned.—(Mr.  Hobhouse.) 

Schedule. 

Army  Services,  1907-8. 

Differences between  Exchequer  

Grants and  Net  Expenditure.  


343 

Majesty's  Treasury  and  subordinate  Depart­
ments,  including  Expenses  in  respect  of  A d­
vances  under the  Light  Railways  Act,  1896. 

Resolution  to be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  come  to  a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may  have  leave  to 
sit  again. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 
next, again resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking Labour 
into  consideration  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill, Exchanges 
as amended in the  Standing  Committee; 

BlU' 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  recommitted  to  a 
Committee  of  the whole  House  in respect  of  the 
Amendment  to  Clause  4  standing  in  the  name 
of  the Right Honourable  Gentleman the  Member 
for  Dundee.—(Mr.  Tennant.) 

The  House  immediately  resolved  itself  into 

the  Committee. 

"S 

•§  O 

Votes. 

Surpluses. 

Deficits. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  4 

(Expenses  of  the  Board  of 

1 

Pay, &c. of  Army 

-

& 

s.  d. 
138,765  3  3 

£ 

s.  d. 

Trade). 

2  Medical  Establishment  :  Pay, 

&c. 

3  Militia :  Pay, Bounty,  &c. 

19,313  17  3 

— 


112,056  16  11  


4 

5 

6 

Imperial  Yeomanry:  Pay  and 

2,891  17  8 

Allowances. 


Volunteer  Corps  :  Pay  and 

22,949  4  10  


— 

Allowances. 


Quartering,  Transport, 

and 

Remounts. 


.  7 

Supplies and  Clothing 

76,444  16  3 

115,269  0  5 

8  Ordnance  Department  Estab-

101,021  2  5 

lishments and General  Stores. 
Engineer 
and 

9 

Armaments 
Stores. 

10  Works and  Buildings 

84,225  5  9 

11 

Establishments 
Education. 

for  Military 

— 

12  Miscellaneous  EfEective Services 

13  War  Office and Army  Accounts 

3,041  5  1 

Department. 

14  Non-efEective 
Officers, &c. 

Charges 

for 

10,828  4  9 

„  15  Non-effective  Charges  for  Men, 

&c. 

16 

Civil  Superannuation,  Compen-
sation, Compassionate  Allow­
ances, and  Gratuities.  

irrecoverable 

Balances 

and 

Claims abandoned. 

471  19  2 

12,866  7  2 

780  13  8 

697  4  0 

47,178  5  1 

7,298  3  11 

Total 

-

-

687,278  13  9 

68,820  13  10 

Net  Surplus 

-  £618,457  19  11 

Resolutions  to be reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee had come  to  several  Resolutions. 
Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

morrow. 

Supply. 

The House, according  to  Order, resolved itself 

into  the  Committee  of  Supply. 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Civil  Services  and Revenue  Departments  

Estimates,  1909-10.  

Class  II. 


An  Amendment  made. 
Clause,  as amended,  agreed  to. 
Bill,  as amended, to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair  ;  and  the 

Deputy  Chairman  reported,  That  the  Com­
mittee  had  amended  Clause  4. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee,  and  on  recommittal,  be 
into  consideration:  —  The  House 
now  taken 
accordingly  proceeded  to  take  the  Bill 
into 
consideration. 

An  Amendment  was  made  to  the  Bill. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to the  Bill,  in  p.  2,1.  12, by  inserting,  after  the 
word  "  exchange,"  the  words  "  but no  advance 
shall  be  made  to  enable  workpeople  ordinarily 
resident  in  Ireland  to  travel  to  any other  portion 
of  the  United  Kingdom  unless it  has been  found 
impossible  to  find  employment  for  them  in 
Ireland."—(Mr.  Peel.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted  in  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  now  read  the  third 
time: —The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and passed. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and  desire  their  concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  secretary of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Secretary of  the Boardt he  B°ard  of 
of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second  time Bi]1> 

to-morrow. 

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  Public Works 

Committee  on the Public "Works  Loans  Bill;  

Loana BiU. 

£66,171  to  complete  the  sum for the  Salaries 
and other  Expenses  in  the  Department  of  His 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into the  said  Committee, 

VOL.  164. 

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29th—30th July. 

1 9 0 9. 

[No/107* 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  London  Electric  Supply 
B i l l; 

The  Order  of  the day being read, fOr receiving   Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of  g ™  J u l y  ] 
the  27th  day  of  this  instant  July  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

to-morrow. 

Monday  next. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways  and 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

Means. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a- second  tithe 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

to-morrow. 

Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended   in  the  Standing  Committee)  ; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking   Board  of 
into  consideration  the  Board   of  Trade  Bill,   a s Trade  Bill, 
amended in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

sideration  to-morrow. 

Supply 

[8th  July]  

Report. 


The  Order   of  the day being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply   of 
the  8th day  of  this instant  July  ; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Milk  and 

Second  Reading   of  the  Milk  and  Dairies  Bill;  

dairies  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

upon  Monday  next. 

Monday  next. 

Supply 
[17th  June] 
Report 
(Postponed 
Resolution,) 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  First   of  the  Resolutions 
which,  upon  the  1st  day  of  this  instant  July, 
were  reported  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  17th  day  of  June  last,  and  which  Resolution 
was  then  postponed  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution  be  taken 

into  consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Supply 
[24th  June] 
Report. 

The Order  of the  day  being  read,  for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  24th  day  of  June  last; 

Resolved,  That  this  House   do  now  adjourn.—  Adjournment. 

(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  twenty-eight  minutes  

after  Eight   of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  

to-morrow. 


:  [No.  108.] 

Friday,  30th July 1909. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

The  House  met   at  Twelve   of  the  clock. 

Monday  next. 

P R A T E R S. 

Supply 
[14th  June] 
Report. 

The  Order  of  the day  being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  14th  day  of  June  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

Supply 
[3rd  June] 
Report. 

The Order  of the  day being  read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  3rd  day  of  June  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

Supply 
[27th  April] 
Report. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read,  for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  27t,h  day  of  April  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

Supply 
[21st  July] 
Report. 

The  Order  of  the day being  read,  for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  21st  day  of  this  instant  July  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

TH E  House  proceeded  to  take 

sideration  the  Amendments  made _ by  the  aattway  Bill.  


into  con-  Central  


Lords  to  the  Central London Railway  B i l l;  and  

the  same  were  twice  read,  and  agreed  to.  


Ordered, That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to  

the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House  

hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their  

Lordships. 


The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera-   Hull  and  


tion  the Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to  the  

Hull  and  Bamsley  Railway  B i l l;  and  the  same   ai 
were  twice  read,  and  agreed  to.  


Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to  

the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House  

hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their  

Lordships. 

The  Electric  Lighting  Provisional  Orders   Electric 
(No.  1)  Bill  [Lords]  was,  according   to  Order, ¥s hting
read  a second  time,  and  committed. 

Provisional 
Orders  (No. 1) 
Bill  [Lords.]  ­

The  Gas  and  Water  Orders  Confirmation  Bill   Gas and Water 

[Lords]  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a second g^firmation 
time,  and  committed. 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Supply 
[22nd  July] 
Report. 

The Order   of  the day being  read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  22nd  day   of  this  instant  July; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

House Letting 
and Bating 
g a f  ^
' 

.  :

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, , for  taking 
into consideration the House  Letting  and  Rating 
  as  amended  in  the  Standing 
(Scotland)  Bill,
Committee; 

.  Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Tramways  Orders  Confirmation  Bill   Tramways 

[Lords]  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second 
time,  and  committed. 

Bill  [Lords.], 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and   Public 

read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

videFourth 
Report. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  His  Trade  Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy   of  Diplomatic  and  (Annual 
S e n e s- ) 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  No. 4318.  

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 
; 

; 

•Table. 



 
 
No. 105.]  9  EDW.  YII. 

21th July. 

Board of 
Education. 

East India 
Revenue 
Accounts. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  estimated  Financial  Effect 
of  certain  changes  in  the  Code   of  Regulations 
for  Public  Elementary  Schools  for  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  several  Accounts  and 
Papers which  have  been  presented   to  the  House 
in  this  Session  of  Parliament  relating  to  the 
Revenues  of  India  be  referred  to  the  considera­
tion  of  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House.— 
(The  Master   of  Elibank.) 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Thurs­
day  next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 
(The  Master  of  Elibank.) 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee A. 
Metropolitan 
Ambulances 
Bill. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee   of 

Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol­
lowing  Member  from  Standing  Committee  A  (in 
respect  of  the  Metropolitan  Ambulances  Bill): 
— M r.  Attorney  General;  and  had  appointed   in 
substitution  (in  respect  of  the  said  Bill)  :  Mr. 
Masterman. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Sale  of 
Intoxicating 
Liquors on 
Sunday Bill. 

Bailway Bills 
(Group 6.) 

The  Order  for  resuming,  upon  Tuesday  ne&t, 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the Amendment  which, 
upon  the  25th  day  of  June  last,  was  proposed   to 
be  made  on  consideration  of  the  Sale  of  Intoxi­
cating  Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill,  as  amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee,  was  read,  and  dis­
charged. 

Ordered, That the Debate   be further adjourned 

till  Tuesday  the  10th  day  of  August  next. 

Sir  George  Doughty  reported  from  the  Com­
mittee  on  Group  6 of  Railway  Bills  ;  That,  for 
the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Tuesday  next,  at  half  an  hour 
after  Eleven   of  the  clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Irish Land
Bill.

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Irish  Land  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  5  (Amendment   of  provisions  as to 

percentage). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3,  1. 27, to  leave 
out  from  the  beginning   to  the  end  of  1. 36,  in 
p.  4, in  order to  insert  the  words— 

" ( 1  )  Notwithstanding  the  revision  by  the 
the  percentage  payable  under 

Treasury  of 
section  forty-eight  of  the  Act   of  1903,  such  per­
centage  shall  be  payable  at  the  rate  of  twelve 
per  cent,  as if  such  revision  had  not  been  made." 
—(Mr.  Charles  Craig.) 

Question  put,  That  the  word  "  the,"   in  1. 27, 

stand  part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the (Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

( M r.  Fuller'. 

Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Charles  Craig, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Lonsdale  : 

Tellers  for  the f Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

( M r.  Fuller: 

Tellers  for  the f 
' 
Noes, 
[Viscount  Valentia  : 

Alexander  Acland-


Hood,


Clause  No.  6 amended,  and  agreed  to. 

Clause  No.  7 agreed  to. 

Clause  No.  8  (Advance  dividend). 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  o f 


the  Bill.  


The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for  the/Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

IMr.  Fuller: 

Tellers  for   thef ^ / ^ W er  Achmd­
. 

I 
I Viscount  Valentia: 
Clauses  No.  9 to  No.  13  agreed  to. 

Noes 
' 

' 

194. 

125. 

J 

Whereupon  the  Chairman  left  the  Chair   to  


make  his  Report  to  the  House.  


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the  B i l l; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may  have leave   to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 
next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Finance 
Committee on Finance  [Expenses] (Consolidated  [Expenses] 
Fund)  ; 

Fund!)1 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Isle of Man 
Second  Reading   of  the  Isle  of  Man  (Customs)  (Customs) 
B i l l;  

BlU-

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day being read, for receiving  Navy and 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   on  Navy  and  E^fnditure 
Army  Expenditure,  1907-8  ;  
' 

1907-8. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Secretary of 

Second  Reading   of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  B i l l;  

ana Fisheries 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Public Works 

Committee  on  the  Public  Works  Loans  Bill;  

L o a ns  Bil1 ­

Resolved,  That this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

}  266. 

} 53

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 

-
 Second  Reading   of  the  London  Electric  Slipply  Electric 

& 

. 

Supply Bill. 

Chairman 
puts Questions 
forthwith 
(pursuant to 
Order of the 
House.) 

And  it  being  after  Five   of  the  clock,  the 
Chairman  proceeded,  in  pursuance  of  the  Order 
o f  the  House  of  the  15th  day  of  June  last, 
forthwith  the  Questions 
successively  to  put 
necessary  to  dispose  of 
the  Business  to  be 
concluded  this  day. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part   of 

Bill. 


The  Committee  divided.  


VOL.  164.  


Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill; 

B i l] 

Orderedj' That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

T  T 

 
 


346 

30^  July.—2nd  August 

1909. 

[No. 109. 

Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee); 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

Ordered,  That  Standing  Orders  223  and  243 
be  suspended,  and that  the  Bill  be  now  read  the 
third  time. —  (The  Chairman   of  Ways  and 
Means.) 

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third  time 

And   it  being  half  an hour  after  Five   of  the 
clock,  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the  House 
without  Question  put, pursuant  to  Stand­
ing  Order  No.   3,  till  Monday  next. 

and  passed, with  Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same, with  Amendments;  to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the  concurrence   of 
their  Lordships. 

Blackwood 
Gas Bill. 

Holywood 
Tramways 
Bill. 

[No.  109.] 

Monday, 2nd August 1909. 

The  House  met   at  a  quarter  of  an  hour 
before  Three   of  the  clock. 

P B A T E E S. 

TH E  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera­

tion  the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords 
to  the  Blackwood  Gas  B i l l;  and  the  same  were 
twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera­
tion the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to  the 
Holywood  Tramways  B i l l;  and  the  same  were 
twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the.  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

London 
County 
Council 
(Tramways 
and  Improve­
ments)  Bill. 

The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera­
tion  the  Amendments  made   by  the  Lords  to  the 
London  County  Council  (Tramways  and  Im­
provements)  Bill;  and  the  same  were  twice 
read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made   by  their 
Lordships. 

Midland Great
Ba f ^ o  f
irehmdBill.

  The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera­
tion  the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to  the 
  Midland  Great  Western  Railway   of  Ireland 
Bill;  and  the  same  were  twice  read,  and  agreed 
to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made   by  their 
Lordships. 

Barry
Raiiway  Bill
[Lords.]

The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera­
tion  the Barry Railway Bill [Lords],   as  amended 
i n  the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That  Standing  Orders  223  and  243 
be  suspended,  and  that  the  Bill   be  now  read 
the  third  time.—(The  Chairman  of  Ways  and 
Means.) 

The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third  time 

and  passed,  with  Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed to  the  same,  with  Amendments  ;  to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the  concurrence   of 
their  Lordships. 

Gateshead and
District
Bm[ZmL.]

  The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera­
tion  the  Gateshead  and  District  Tramways  Bill 
[Lords'],  as amended in  the  Committee. 

Ordered,  That  the  Methwoid  and  Feltwell   Methwoid and 
Drainage  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  in  the  Com-  p^inage  Bill 
mittee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to-morrow. 

[Lords.] 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera-  South  Eastern 

tion  the  South  Eastern  and  London,  Chatham, 
and  Dover  Railways  Bill  [Lords],   as  amended  an(i Dover 
in  the  Committee. 

Railways  Bill 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time. 

The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera-  West Kent 
tion  the West  Kent Electric Power Bill  [Lords],  ®ectnc Pwer 
as amended  in  the  Committee. 

1  L  r  -J 

Ordered,  That  Standing  Orders  223  and  243 
be  suspended,  and that  the  Bill  be  now  read  the 
third  time. —  (The  Chairman   of  Ways  arid 
Means.) 

The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third  time 

and  passed,  with  Amendments. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  with  Amendments;   to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

was read  a second  time, and  committed. 

The  Shrewsbury  Corporation  Bill  [Lords]   Shrewsbury 
Corporation 
Bill  {Lords, j 

Ordered,  That  Standing  Orders  220  and  246,  Private  Bills, 

relating  to  Private  Bills,  be  suspended  for  the 
remainder  of  the  Session. 

Ordered,  That  as  regards  Private  Bills   to  be 

returned  by  the  House  of  Lords  with  Amend­
ments,  such  Amendments  (if  unopposed)  shall 
be  considered  forthwith. 

Ordered,  That  as  regards  Private  Bills 
returned,  or  to  be  returned,  by  the  House   of 
Lords  with  Amendments,  such  Amendments  (if 
opposed)  shall be  considered at  such  times as the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  may  determine. 

Ordered,  That  when  it  is  intended  to  propose 
any  Amendments 
thereto  a  Copy   of  such 
Amendments  shall  be  deposited  at  the  Private 
Bill  Office,  and  notice  given   on  the  day  on 
which  the  Bill  shall  have  been  returned  from 
the  Lords.  —  (The  Chairman   of  Ways  and 
Means.) 

A  Public  Petition  was  presented,  and  read;   Public 

and  ordered to  lie  upon  the  Table.  

r 

Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,   by  His  Poor  Laws 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Appendix  to  the a®3 EeIief   o f 
Report  of  the  Royal  Commission  on  the  Poor (BoyaT 
Laws  and  Relief   of  Distress.  Vol.  X I X  .  Commission.) 
Report  by  Mr.  Cyril  Jackson  and  Rev.   J .  C. 
the  effects  of  Employment  or 
Pringle  on 
Assistance  given  to  the  "  Unemployed  "  since 
1886  as  a  means  of  relieving  Distress  outside 
the  Poor  Law. 

Copy  of  Final  Report   of  the  Commissioners  Whisky  and 
appointed  to  inquire  into  certain  matters  con-  o t h er  Potable 
nected  with the manufacture and  sale  of  Whisky  commission.)1 
and other  Potable  Spirits.  Report  and  Volume 
I I.   of  Minutes  of  Evidence,  with  Appendices. 

 
 
 
 
No. 109.]  9  EDW.  V I I.  	

2nd August 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie upon  the 

Original  Question  put,  and  agreed  to. 

Table. 

Bailway 
Accidents. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,   by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy   of  General  Report   to  the 
that  have 
Board  of  Trade  upon  Accidents 
occurred  on  the  Railways  of  the  United  King­
dom  during  the  year  1908. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

ilkenny 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his  W a r-
County (South rant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown  in  Ireland,  to 
WritenDy) 

o ut  a  a ew   Writ  for  the  electing   of  a 
m a ke 
Member  to  serve  in  this present  Parliament  for 
the  County  of  Kilkenny  (South  Kilkenny),   in 
the  room of  Nicholas  Joseph  Murphy,  Esquire, 
an  adjudicated  bankrupt.—(Mr.  Boland.) 

Lune 
Fisheries'! 
Provisional 
Order BilL 
[Provisional 
Order 
confirmed.] 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported 
from  the  Committee   on  the  Lune  Fisheries 
Provisional  Order  B i l l;  That  they  had  con-
sidered  the  Order  therein  contained;  that  the 
said  Order  ought  to  be  confirmed  ;  and  that 
they  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill,  with 
Amendments,  to  the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration 
morrow. 

to­

Sir  Joseph Leese  reported  from  the  Committee 
Selection 
(Standing 
of  Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the 
Committees.) 
following  Members from Standing Committee   A : 
Standing 
Committee  A.  — M r.  Stephen  Collins  and  Sir  Walter  Foster; 
and  had  appointed  in  substitution  (in  respect   of 
the  Metropolitan  Ambulances  Bill) :  Mr.  George

Metropolitan 
Ambulances  Hardy  and  Mr.  Everett.
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Business of 
the  House 
(Supply.) 

Ordered.,  That  on  this  day,  notwithstanding 
anything  in  Standing  Order  No.  15,  Business 
other  than  Business  of  Supply  may  be  taken 
before  Eleven   of  the  clock.—(Mr.  Secretary 
Haldane.) 

Supply 
[19th  allotted  i n f  0  t h  e  Committee  of  Supply. 

The  House,  according   to  Order, resolved itself 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Civil  Services  and Revenue  Departments  

Estimates,  and  

Supplementary  Estimates,  1909-10.  


Class  I Y. 

1.  £36,464  (including  a  Supplementary  sum 
of  £6,500)  to  complete  the  sum  for  sundry 
Grants  in  Aid   of  Scientific  Investigation,  &c., 
and  other  Grants. 

Class  I I. 

2.  Motion  made,  and  Question proposed,  That 
a  sum  not  exceeding  £250,700  (including  a 
Supplementary  sum of  £31,000)  be  granted  to 
His  Majesty,  to  complete  the  sum  necessary  to 
defray  the  charge  which  will  come   in  course  of 
payment  during  the  year ending   on  the  31st  day 
of  March  1910  for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses 
of  the  Office  of the  Committee  of  Privy  Council 
for  Trade  and  subordinate  Departments  : 

(Salaries)   be  reduced  by  £100 

Whereupon  Motion made, and Question,  That 
Item  A 
in 
respect  of  the  Salary  of  the  President  of  the 
Board  of  Trade  —  (Mr.  Hudson),  —  put,  and 
negatived. 

VOL.  164. 

Revenue  Departments. 
3.  Motion  made, and  Question proposed,  That 
a sum  not  exceeding  £1,429,600   be  granted  to 
His  Majesty,   to  complete  the  sum necessary  to 
defray  the  charge  which  will  come   in  course   of 
payment during  the  year  ending   on  the  31st  day 
of  March  1910 for  the  Salaries  and  Expenses   of 
the  Customs  and  Excise  Department: 

Whereupon  Motion  made,  and  Question  put, 
That  a sum not  exceeding  £1,429,500   be  granted 
for  the  said  Service.—(Sr.  Hunt.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Hunt, 

Yeas, 

IMr.  Carlile : 

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
LCaptain  Norton: 

Noes, 

J 66. 

j  118. 

And  it  being  after  Ten  of  the  clock,  the Chairman 

to  Standing  Put« Q^e®tion 
Chairman  proceeded,  pursuant 
Order  No.  15,   to  put  forthwith  the  Question gjESn*  to 
necessary  to  dispose  of  the  Vote  under  con- s.O. No. 16.> 
sideration. 

Question  put,  That  a  sum  not  exceeding 

£1,429,600  be  granted  for  the  said  Service. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
\Captain  Norton  : 
Tellers  for  the (Sir  William  Bull, 

/ 135. 
1 
53. 
(Mr.  Levertan  Harris   i  J 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

1


The  Chairman then  proceeded  to put  severally Chairman 
the  Questions,  That  the  total  amounts   of  the  pits Questions 
Votes  outstanding  in  each  Class  of  the  Civil  ^^fnding 
Services  Estimates, 
Estimates,  and  the  total  amount  of  the  Votes  (pursuant to 
outstanding  in  the  Estimates  for  the  Navy  and  s - 0 ,  No-
the  Army  (including  Ordnance  Factories),   be 
granted  for  the  Services  defined  in those  Classes 
and  Estimates. 

including  Supplementary  v0tes 

Class   I . 

4.  That  a sum  not  exceeding  £1,994,784   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in course of  payment  during the 
year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included 
in  Class  I . of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services, 
viz.:— 

-

-

-

-

-	

1. Boyal Palaces 
2.  Osborne
-
3.  Boyal Parks and Pleasure Gardens 
4.  Houses of  Parliament Buildings 
4A.  Salisbury  Memorial  -
-
-
5.  Miscellaneous  Legal  Buildings,  Great 
-
6.  Art	  and  Science  Buildings,  Great 

Britain

-

-

-

-

-

-

Britain 

7.  Diplomatic and Consular Buildings 
8.  Revenue Buildings 
9.  Public	  Buildings,  Great  Britain  (in­
cluding  a  Supplementary  sum  of 
£21,000)  -

-

-

£ 
39,100 
7,300 
-
- 62,500 
31,900 
100 

28,500 

57,000 
57,100 
-
- 494,000 

-  431,000 

-

-

-

-

-

Britain

9A. Labour  Exchange  Buildings,  Great 
-

70,000 
110,076 
10.  Surveys of  the United Kingdom 
45,196 
11.  Harbours under the Board of Trade  -
22,000 
12. Peterhead Harbour 
354,500 
13. Bates on Government Property  -
14.  Publio Works and Buildings, Ireland  - 151,017 
33,495 
15. Railways, Ireland 

-	

-

-

£1,994,784 

Question  put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\Captain  Norton: 

Tellers  for  the?Mr.  Harry  Marks, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Samuel  Roberts: 

}  138 

"I 

; 

51. 

T  T  2 

 
 
 
­
­
[No. 109. 

1909. 
£ 
52,185 
27,993 
2,485 
62,390 

348 	

2nd  August 

Class  I I. 

Scotland: 	

5.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £1,111,392  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come in course  of  payment during  the 
year  ending  on  the  31st day of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect of  the  Services  included 
in  Class  I I.   of  the  Estimates for Civil  Services, 
viz. : -­

- 
-
1.  House of Lords Offices 
- 
2.  House of Commons Offices -
- 
7. Privy Council Office -
-
9.  Mercantile Marine Services 
- 
10. Bankruptcy Department of the Board 

-
• 
-
• 

£ 
15,894 
25,180 
6,240 
80,316 

of  Trade

 .

.

.

.

. 

-

11.  Board of  Agriculture and Fisheries  - 
12.  Charity Commission  -	 
13.  Civil Service Commission  -
14  Exchequer and Audit Department 
15.  Friendly Societies Begistry 
18.  The Mint, including Coinage 
19. National Debt  Office -
- 
20.  Public Becord Office 
21.  Public Works Loan  Commission 
- 
22. Begistrar General's Office, England  • 
23.  Stationery and Printing 
24.  Woods, 'Forests, and Land  Bevenues, 

- 
- 
- 
- 

-
-
- 
-

-
-

-

-

5 
98,169 
14,222 
21,403 
39,400 
5,807 
87 
7,882 
15,260 
848 
29,315 
-  390,960 

&o. Office 

25.  Works  and  Public  Buildings  Office 
(including  a  Supplementary  sum 
of  £9,339) 
26.  Secret Service	 

Scotland: 
28.  Fishery Board	 
29.  Lunacy Commission  -	 
30.  Begistrar General's Office  -
31.  Local Government Board  -

-
-

- 
- 

Ireland: 

32.  Household  of  Lord  Lieutenant  of 

Ireland -

34. Department of Agriculture and Tech­

nical Instruction

  . 

. 

. 

.  134,817 

35.  Charitable  Donations  and  Bequests 

Office 

36; Local Government Board   . 
37.  Public Record Office  -	
38.  Public Works Office  ­
39. Begistrar General's Office -
40.  Valuation and Boundary Survey 

. 

-.  

£1,111,392 

13,869 

64,276 
10,000 

13,197 
3,921 
3,231 
10,535 

2,672 

1,055 
47,731 
4,212 
27,992 
7,170 
15,726 

11.  Law Charges and Courts of  Law  -
12.  Begister House, Edinburgh  -
-
13.  Crofters Commission 
-
14.  Prisons -

-
-

-

-

-

Ireland: 

15.  Law Charges and Criminal Prosecutions  40,343 
16.  Supreme Court of  Judicature and other 

Legal Departments  -

-

-
18.  County Court Officers, &c. 
19.  Dublin Metropolitan Police  -
-
20. Boyal Irish Constabulary 
21.  Prisons -
-
22. Beformatory and Industrial Schools 
23.  Dundrum Criminal Lunatic Asylum 

-

-

-

-

61,919 
70,875 
36,963 
750,918 
67,695 
55,108 
3,409 

£2,153,357 

Question  put. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

\Captain  Norton  : 

Tellers for  the fMr.  Arhnright, 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Walter  Guinness : 

139. 

50. 

Class  I Y. 

7.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £8,232,508   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course  of  payment during  the 
year  ending  on the  31st day  of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect of  the  Services  included 
in  Class  I Y.   of  the Estimates for  Civil  Services, 
viz.  : ­

1.  Board of Education  -
2.  British Museum 
-
3.  National Gallery (including  a Supple­

-
-

-

mentary sum of  £10,000) 
4.  National Portrait Gallery  -
5.  Wallace Collection 
-
-
7.  Universities	  and  Colleges,  Great 
Britain,  and  Intermediate  Educa­
tion, Wales 

-

-

8.  Public Education, Scotland 
9.  National Galleries, Scotland 

Ireland : 

11.  Endowed Schools Commissioners 
12.  National Gallery
. 
13.  Queen's Colleges 
13A. Universities and Colleges  -

. 

. 

-

£ 
6,648,792 
119,228 

13,725 
2,793 
3,614 

142,400 
-  1,267,541 
2,392 

520 
. 1,153 
2,200 
28,150 

-

- 

£8,232,508 

Question  put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

ICaptain  Norton: 

.„„

\ 
J 

Question  put. 

Tellers for  the f Mr.  Mitchell'  Thomson,  \ 
J 

\Mr.  Stanley  Wilson  : 

Noes, 

53. 

Class  I I I. 

6.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £2,153,357   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in course of  payment  during  the 
year  ending  on  the  31st day   of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included 
in  Class  I I I.   of  the Estimates for  Civil  Services, 
viz.:— 

-
-

1.  Law Charges	 
2.  Miscellaneous Legal Expenses 
3.  Supreme Court of Judicature 
4.  Land Begistry	 
5.  Public Trustee	 
6.  County Courts 
7.  Police, England and Wales  -
-
8.  Prisons, England and the Colonies 
9.  Befonnatory	  and  Industrial  Schools, 

-	

£ 
59,897 
-  22,614 
-  178,270 
22,555 
300 
3 
-  24,888 
-  423,737 

Great Britain  -

-  142,562 
-
10.  Broadmoor Criminal Lunatic Asylum  -  46,248 

-

-

The  Committee  divide!. 

Tellers  for  the  f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
I Captain  Norton  :  

Tellers  for  the fMr.  Harry  Marks, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Du  Cros : 

1134. 

]•  52. 

Class   V. 

8.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £1,192,740   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come in  course of  payment during  tne 
year  ending  on  the  31st  day of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included 
in  ClassV.   of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services, 
viz.:— 

<3 

1.  Diplomatic and Consular Services 
2.  Colonial Services 
.3.  Telegraph Subsidies and Pacific Cable 
4.  Cyprus (Grant in Aid) 

-

-

-

£ 
347,006 
806,521 
38,213 
1,000 

Question  put. 

£1,192,740 

 


N o.  1 0 9] 

9  E D W.  V I I. 

2nd  August  	

8 49 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for-the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
(Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  thej Mr.  Gardner, 

\ 
J 
\ 
(Mr.  Rupert  Guinness  :  J 

138. 

50. 

Noes, 

Class  V I. 
9.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £5,310,204   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which will  come  in  course  of  payment  during  the 
year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included 
in  Class  V I.   of  the  Estimates  for Civil  Services, 
viz.  :— 

1.  Superannuation  and  Retired  Allow-	

ances 

Allowances 

2.  Miscellaneous  Charitable	  and  other 
- 
-
-
3.  Hospitals and Charities, Ireland 
- 
4.  Savings Banks and  Friendly Societies 

-

-

Deficiencies  (including  a  Supple­
mentary sum of  £1,434) 

£ 
376,189 

309 
981 

Army  Estimates,  1909-10. 

12.  That  a sum not  exceeding  £15,120,100   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which will  come  in course of  payment during  the 
year  ending  on the  31st day  of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Army  Services, 
including  Army  (Ordnance  Factories),  viz.:— 

£ 

-  440,000 
897,000 
-  2,307,000 

2.  Medical Establishment:  Pay, &c. 
. 
3.  Special Reserves
4.  Territorial Forces 
5.  Establishments  for	  Military  Educa­
-

  . 
-

. 
-

. 

. 

-

-

tion 

-  146,000 
. 
6.  Quartering, Transport, and Remounts  1,665,000 
-  4,275,000 
7.  Supplies and Clothing 
8.  Ordnance Department Establishments 


. 

-

-

and General Stores 

-
9.  Armaments and Engineer Stores 
10.  Works and Buildings 
-
11.  Miscellaneous Effective Services 
12.  War Office  and  Army  Accounts  De­

-

-

-  535,000 
-  1,644,000 
-  2,551,000 
67,000 
- 

182,775 
-  4,750,000 

partment 
—  Ordnance Factories 

-	 

593,000 
100 

5.  Old Age Pensions 	

Question  put,  and  agreed  to. 

£5,310,204 

£15,120,100 

Class  V I I. 
10.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £423,416   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course of payment during  the 
year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included 
in  Class V I I  . of  the Estimates  for Civil  Services, 
v i z . :­

-

1.  Temporary Commissions 
2.  Miscellaneous Expenses 	
3.  Repayments to the Local Loans Fund -
4.  Ireland Development Grant 
5.  Government Hospitality 
-
6.  Repayments to the Civil  Contingencies 
-
7.  Expenses under the Unemployed Work­

Fund 

. 

-

-

-

-

men Act, 1905 -
8.  International Exhibitions 

-

-

£ 
25,000 
7,123 
9,441 
- 86,874 
5,000 

-  29,978 

200,000 
60,000 

Question  put,  and  agreed  to. 
Resolutions  to be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair  ;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  come  to  several  Resolutions. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  House,  according   to Order, resolved itself  Ways and 

into  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means. 

Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved,  That,  towards  making  good 

the 
Supply  granted  to  His  Majesty  for  the  Service 
of  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March 
1910,  the  sum of  £76,991,102  be  granted  out  of 
the  Consolidated Fund  of  the  United  Kingdom. 
—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

£423,416 

Resolution  to  be  reported. 

Question  put,  and  agreed  to. 

Navy  Estimates,  1909-10. 

11.  That  a sum not exceeding  £22,298,400  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come in course of  payment  during  the 
year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Navy  Services, 
viz.  :­

£ 

2.  Victualling and Clothing for the Navy 2,416,800 
3.  Medical  Establishments  and  Services  258,700 
12,700 
4.  Martial Law 
159,300 
5.  Educational Services -
67,300 
6.  Scientific Services 
-
367,000 
7.  Royal Naval Reserves 	
8.  Sec. 1.  Shipbuilding,  Repairs,	  Main­

-
-

-
-

-
-

-	

tenance, &c.-—Personnel 

3,148,200 

8.  Sec. 2.  Shipbuilding,  Repairs,	  Main­

tenance, &c.—Materiel  -

4,392,100 

8.  Sec. 3.  Shipbuilding,	  Repairs,  Main­
tenance, &c.—Contract Work 
9.  Naval Armaments 
-
11.  Miscellaneous Effective Services 
12. Admiralty Office 

- ,  -

-

-

8,278,300 
- 2,381,000 
438,800 
378,200 

Question  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the ("Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton  : 

Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Barnes, 
\Mr.  Gwynn: 

Noes, 
VOL.  164. 

£22,298,400 

} 165. 

15. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  come  to  a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Established 

the  Established  Church  Church 

Second  Reading  of 
(Wales)  B i l l;  

(Wales)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day being read, for  resuming  Houses of 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Amendment  which, Parliament 
upon  the 20th  day   of  April  last,  was  proposed  to  1 " 
be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the  Houses   of 
Parliament  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Places of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

ment) Bill!86 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Election  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Election   of  Aldermen  Aldermen in 
in  Municipal  Boroughs  B i l l; 

BoroSftilL 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

T  T  3 







350 

2nd  August. 

1909. 

[No. 109~ 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Check- 
weighing  in  Second Beading   of  the  Checkweighing in various 
- r , . , , 0 
various 
, 
Industries  Bill. Industries  Bill; 

,  . 

T 

° 

° 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Dublin Police
Bill.

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the 

Second  Reading   of  the  Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Lunacy
(Ireland)BlU.

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

  S e c o n  d  R e a d i ng   o f  t he   Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Local 
Government 
(Audit  of 
Accounts) 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Local  Government 

Second  Reading  of 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Assistant 
Postmaster 
General  BiU. 

The  Order   of  tbe  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 
General  B i l l;  • 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Merchandise 
Marks 
,T  ,
(Ireland)  BiU.  ( I r e l a n d ) Bm  

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Merchandise  Marks 

Second  Reading  of 

. « 

Ordered,  That the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Fisheries
(Ireland) Bill.

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
s e c 0nd  Reading of  the  Fisheries  (Ireland)  B i l l; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking Marine 
into  consideration  the  Marine  Insurance  (Gam- jE° sun"?.oe 
bling  Policies)  Bill,  as amended  in  the  Standing   p 0 j i d e s ) B m. 
Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing, Town  Planning,  &c. 
B i l l; 

Planning,  &c. 
BilL 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Wednes­
day  next,  resolve  itself  into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking   Superannua­

into  consideration  the  Superannuation  Bill,  as1:1011 Bil1­
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Wednesday  next.  


The  Order   o f  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Child Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial)  ^™i)Biil 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

[Lords.]

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time  


upon  Wednesday  next.  


The  Order  of the  day being read, for receiving   Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of  [29th  July} 
the  29th  day   of  July  last;  

Keport-

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the day  being read, for  receiving   Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of  ^8ethorJtuly] 
the  8th  day  of  July  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for taking Supply 
into  consideration  the  First   of  the  Resolutions  [ 1 7 th  J u n e I 
which,  upon  the  1st  day   of  July 
last,  were (Postponed 
reported  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of  the  Resolution.)­
17th  day   of  June  last,  and  which  Resolution 
was  then  postponed; 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Resolution   be  taken 

into  consideration  to-morrow. 

Electric 
Lighting 
Acts 
(Amendment) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment)  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee  ; 

The  Order  of the day being  read, for  receiving   Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply   0 f  [24th  JuneJ 
the  24th  day  of  June  last;  

Keport" 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

morrow. 

Finance BUI.

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the  Finance  B i l l; 

Resolved,  That this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for  receiving   Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of  [^ r t J_ u n el 
the  14th  day  of  June  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

morrow. 

Buildings  and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing  Works  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the day being read, for  resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  21st  day   of  April  last,  That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be  now  read  a second  time  ; 

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for  receiving   Supply 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of  [3rd  June] 
the  3rd  day  of  June  last;  

R e p o r t' 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received 

to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the day being read, for receiving   Supply 

the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of  ^2e7t0hrtAprU1 
the 27th  day  of  April  last;  

e p or " 

Ordered,  That the Debate  be further adjourned 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

till  Wednesday  next. 

morrow. 


London 
Elections  Bill, 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill 
(not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee)  ; 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for receiving   Supply  

the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of  [ ^ J u l y  ]  

the  21st  day   of  July  last;

  '  


e p or

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

morrow. 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
NO. 109.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

2nd  August 

351 


Supply 
{22nd  July] 
Beport. 

The  Order of the day  being  read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the  22nd  day  of  July  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking   Telegraph 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration)   (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee); 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

morrow. 

sideration  to-morrow. 

House Letting
/ScoHandf
Bill.

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
* n t  o  consideration the House Letting  and  Rating 
(Scotland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 
C o m m i t t e e; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Bridgend 

Third  Reading   of  the  Bridgend  (Hope   E n g l i s  h 
Baptist  Chapel,  &c.)  Charity  B i l l; 

(Hope^Engiish 
chapel, &c.) 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  the  third  time  Charity Bill, 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

upon  Wednesday  the  11th  day   of  this  instant 
August. 

Supply 
£27th  July] 
Beport. 

The Order  of the  day being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   of  Supply  of 
the 27th  day  of  July  last; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

morrow. 

Board of 
Trade  Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Board   of  Trade  Bill,  as 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  Con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Milk and 
Dairies Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the  Milk  and  Dairies  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Irish  Land 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the  Irish  Land  B i l l; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Finance 
[Expenses] 
(Consolidated 
Fund.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee on Finance [Expenses]  (Consolidated 
F u n d ); 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Isle of  Man 
•(Customs) 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Isle  of  Man  (Customs) 
B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Navy and 
Army 
Expenditure, 
1907-8. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   on  Navy  and 
Army  Expenditure,  1907-8; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  to­

morrow. 

Secretary of 
the  Board of 
Agriculture 
and Fisheries 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   John 

Third  Reading   of  John  Marshall's  Charity   ®ars?iaU's.„ 
Chantv  Bill. 

° 

. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  the  third  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  11th  day   of  this  instant 
August. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Lichfield and 
Third  Reading   of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon  correctional 
Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property  chapeis'and^ 
Charity  Bill;  
Trust Property 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  the  third  time C l i a r i ty  B i lL 

upon  Wednesday  the  11th  day   of  this  instant 
August. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dewsbury 
Third  Reading   of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley  ^  ^ f ' X  ^ 
Congregational  Chapel  Charities  B i l l;  

Chapel 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  Charities Bill, 

upon  Wednesday  the  11th  day  of  this  instant 
August. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Wortley 

Third  Reading   of  the  Wortley  Congregational 
Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

charity Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  the  third  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  11th  day   of  this  instant 
August. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking   Sale of 

into  consideration  the  Sale  of  Margarine  Bill 
as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Monday  the  23rd  day   of  this 
instant  August. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking   Oaths Bill, 

into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  further 

consideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  Rnie 

into  consideration  the  Rule  Committee  Bill,   as  Committee 
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ;

Bil1­

Public Works 
Loans Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

Committee  on  the  Public  Works  Loans  Bill; 

sideration  to-morrow. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  London  Electric  Supply 
B i l l; 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking   Under Sheriffs 

into  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs  (County  (County 
Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,   as  amended  in  the firXnd^Bili 
Standing  Committee;

1 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

sideration  upon  Thursday  next. 

to-morrow. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Bevenue  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  B i l l; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking   Licensed 
into  consideration  the  Licensed  Premises  (Elec- ^remises 
tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,   as  amended  in  the  ^ 
Standing  Committee; 

Bill. 

c L i ng 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

to-morrow. 

VO L.   164. 

sideration  to-morrow. 

T Y 4 

 
 
 
 
352 

2nd—-3rd  August. 

1909. 

[No. 110. 

Bishopric o fj 
Sheffield  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield 
Bill,  as amended  in the  Standing  Committee  ; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

[No.  110.]  

Tuesday, 3rd August 1909. 


The  House met  at a quarter  of  an  hour  

before  Three  of  the  clock.  


Cottage 
Homes for 
Aged  Persons 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Cottage  Homes for  Aged 
Persons  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Death 
Certificates 
(Charges)  Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Death  Certificates 

Second  Reading  of 
(Charges)  B i l l; 

P R A T E R S. 

MR.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table,—Report  Provisional 

from one of  the  Examiners  of  Petitions  for 
Private  Bills,  That  in the  case  of  the  following o°&em° 
! Sill, referred  on  the  First  Reading  thereof, no  appUcable.) 
Standing  Orders  are applicable,  viz.:— 

Marriages  Provisional  Order  (No.   2)  Bill. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill 'be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera-  Bury 

upon  Monday  next. 

tion  the  Bury  Corporation  Bill,  as  amended  in Corporation 
the  Committee. 

Cheap  Trains  

Bill. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Cheap  Trains  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Sea  Fisheries 
Regulation 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Sea  Fisheries  Regula­
tion  ( Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Industrial 

Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning 
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

npon  Thursday  neit. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Post  Office
(Lotteries and  Second  Reading  of  the  Post  Office  (Lotteries 
Matter)6Bill. 

a n  d  Obscene  Matter)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights)  BiU. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  A ct 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered, That  Standing  Orders  223  and  243 
be  suspended,  and  that  the  Bill  be  now  read 
the  third  time.—(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

, 

The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the  third  time 

and  passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and  desire their  concurrence. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  Methwoid  and 

to  take  into  consideration  the  Methwoid  and 
Bill 
Feltwell  Drainage  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  in  [Lords^  1 
the  Committee. 

And  Amendments  were made  to  the  Bill. 
Ordered,  That  Standing  Orders  223  and  243 
be  suspended,  and  that  the  Bill  be  now  read 
the  third  time.—(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

Mr.  M'Kenna,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted  the  House  that  His  Majesty,  having 
been  informed  of  the  purport of the  Bill,  gives 
His  Consent,  as  far  as  His  Majesty's  interest  is 
concerned,  that  the  House  may  do  therein  as 
they  shall  think  fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time  and 

passed, with  Amendments. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  with  Amendments;  to 
which  this  House  doth desire  the concurrence   of 
their  Lordships. 

Hours of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Sur­
facemen)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

Ordered,  That  Standing  Order  243  be  s u s - S o u th  Eastern 

pended, and that the South  Eastern  and  London, 
Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill  [Lords]  be  an(j  d ^. 
now  read  the  third  time.—(The  Deputy  Chair-  Railways  Bill 
m a n .) 

[Lords.] 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Bank  Holidays
BUi.

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the Bank  Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Bill  was  accordingly read  the  third  time 

and passed, with  Amendments. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same, with  Amendments ;  to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the  Dogs'  Protection  B i l l; 

The  House,  according   to  Order,  proceeded  to  Lune 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Wild  Birds 
Protection \ 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

A nd  then  the  H o u s e,  h a v i ng  continued   to 
sit  till  t w e n t y - t wo  minutes  after  E l e v en 
of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

take 
Provisional  Order  Bill,  as  amended 
Committee. 

into  consideration  the  Lune  Fisheries Fisheries 
Provisional 
in  the Order  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read ;  and  ordered to  lie  upon  the  Table; 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy   of  Despatch 
from His Majesty's  Minister  at  Brussels  enclos­
ing  a Copy  of the  Belgian  Law  of  the  8th  June 
1909, relative  to  Belgian  Nationality. 

PubUc 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 
Nationality 
and  Naturali­
sation 
(Miscel­
laneous, 
No.  7,  1909.) 

 
 
No.NO.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

drd  August.  	

353 

Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a   Message from 

Trade Beports
s S )  1

Bankruptcy
KulesT1

Annual  Series,  Nos.  4306  and  4320. 

Ordered!,  That  the said  Papers   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  several  Acts   of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  General  Rule,  dated  5th  July  1909,  made 
pursuant  to  the  Bankruptcy  Acts,  1883  and 
1890  (Bankruptcy  Notice  on  County  Court 
Judgment). 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

East  India 
(Enteric 
Fever,  &e.) 
(Native  and 
European 
Army.) 

No. 245. 

The  Master  of  Elibank  presented,—Return  to 
an  Address  to  His  Majesty,  dated  the  28th  day 
of  July  last, for  a  Return  relative   to  East  India 
(Enteric  Fever,  &c.)  (Native  and  European 
Army). 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Return  do  lie upon the 

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Civil  Service 
Commission. 

Trustee 
Savings 
Banks. 

No.  246. 

Army. 

Mr,  Hobhouse  presented,   by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Fifty-third  Report   of  His 
Majesty's  Civil  Service  Commissioners,  with 
Appendices. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  also  presented,—Return   to  an 
Order,  dated  the  28th  day   of  July  last,  for  a 
Return  relative  to  Trustee  Savings  Banks. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and that the  said.Return  be  printed. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,   by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy   of  Interim  Report 
of  Advisory  Committee  for  Aeronautics. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper   do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Inquiry  into 
Charities 
.  . ,
tiveCounty'of
Devon.)

No. 244.

The  following  Paper  was laid  upon  the  Table 
by  the  Clerk  of  the  House  :—Further  Return   to 
an  Order, dated  the  26th  day  of  July  1905,  for 
a  Return  relative  to  Inquiry  into  Charities 
(Administrative  County   of  Devon). 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Return   be  printed. 

Poor  Belief 
(England  and 
Wales.) 

Ordered,  That  there  be laid before  this  House 
a  Copy  of  Statement  of  the  amount  expended 
by  Boards  of  Guardians  for  Poor  Relief  during 
the  half-year  ended  Ladyday  1909 ;  and  similar 
Statement  for  the  half-year  ended  Michaelmas 
1909  (in  continuation   of  Parliamentary  Paper, 
No.  340   of  Session  1908).  —  (Mr.  Herbert 
Lewis.) 

London 
(Equalisation 
of  Rates) 
Act,  1894 
(Accounts 
under 
Section 1  (7) 
of  the  Act.) 

Ordered,  That  there be  laid  before  this  House 
a  Return  showing,  according   to  the  Accounts 
for  the  twelve  months  preceding  the  31st  day   of 
March  1909, furnished to  the  Local  Government 
Board  under  Section  1  (7)   of  the  London 
(Equalisation  of  Rates)  Act,  1894— 

(1)  The  amounts  paid  during  the  year  out   of 
the  Equalisation  Fund  under  the  Act   to 
the  Councils of  Metropolitan  Boroughs  ; 

(2)  The	   amount  of  the  expenses 

incurred 
during  the  year   by  the  Councils to  whom 
such  payments  were  made,  (a)  under  the 
Public  Health  (London)  Act,  1891  (includ­
ing  expenses of  scavenging  streets)  ;  ( b)   in 
respect  of  lighting;  and  ( c)   in  respect  of 
streets  (other  than  the  expenses  of  scaveng­
ing)  ;  and 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords   by  t he  Lords -
one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth  : 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Local  Govern-   Local 

ment  Provisional  Orders  (No.   7)  Bill,  without  Government 
any  Amendment. 

S E Z < SU 
Bill. 

The  Lords have agreed   to  the London  County   London 
Council  (Money)  Bill,  with   an  Amendment  ;  to 5 o u n t£ 
which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence   of  this Council 
House. 

(Money)  BiU. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Northallerton  Northallerton 

Water  Bill,  with  Amendments;   to  which  t h e W a t er  Bil1 ­
Lords  desire  the  concurrence   of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Great  Western  Great  Western 

Railway  (General  Powers)  Bill,  with  Amend-  ^ Z r Zi 
ments;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concur- p 0 ^ r s  )  Bill, 
rence of this  House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Great  Central  Great  Central 

Railway  (Various  Powers)  Bill,  with  Amend- Bailway 
ments ;  to which  the  Lords  desire  the  concur-  p0wera)8BiiL 
rence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to the Llanelly  Water   Llanelly 
Bill,  with  Amendments  ;   to  which  the  Lords   W a t er  BiU ­
desire  the  concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Amendments  Pier and 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Pier  and  Harbour   pr®r^"nal 
Provisional  Order  (No.   1)  Bill  [Lords],  without   order  (No.  1> 
any  Amendment. 

Bill  [Lords.] 

Bill. 

Mr.  Peel,  supported   by  Lord  Robert  Cecil,  Ambulances 
Mr.  Crooks,  Mr.  Henry  Gooch,  and  Mr.  Claude (Metropolis) 
Hay,  presented  a  Bill  to  enable  the  managers  of 
the  Metropolitan  Asylum  District   to  establish 
and  maintain  an  Ambulance  Service  in  the 
County  of  London,  and  to  empower  the  Com­
missioner  of  Police  of  the  Metropolis  to  enter 
into  agreements  with  the  said  managers  and 
with  guardians  of  the  poor  with  respect   to  the 
use  and  working  of  Ambulances  :  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  n e x t;  and  to be  printed. 

Bill  292. 

A  Motion  was  made,  and  the  Question  being   Business of 
put,  That  the  Proceedings   on  Report  of  Navy  the  House 
and  Army  Expenditure,  1907-8,   be  not  inter-  ^y°and 
rupted  this  evening  under  the  Standing  Order   Army 
(Sittings  of  the  House),  and  may  be  entered  Expenditure, 
upon  and  proceeded  with  at  any  hour  though  1907~8-) 
opposed—(Mr.  Secretary  Haldane); 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas   to  the  R i g h t; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for the  | Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton  :  


Tellers  for  the/ Captain  Faber,  


Noes, 

(Mr.  Hunt: 

So it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

97. 

40. 

Mr.  Lewis  Harcourt  reported  from  the  Com-   Supply 

mittee of  Supply  of  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  g 0 ^  allotted 
August  several  Resolutions;  which  were  read,   [2nd  August] 
as  follow  : 

Report. 

Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments  

Estimates,  and  

Supplementary  Estimates,  1909-10.  


Class  I V. 

1.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £36,464  (in-   Scientific 
eluding  a  Supplementary  sum  of  £6.500)'  be  ^ u ^ ^  0  ^ 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  complete  the  sum  Kingdom, 
necessary  to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come 
in  course of  payment  during  the year  ending  on 
,   . •  . i the  31st  day  of  March  1910  for  sundry  Grants 
(in continuation of  Parliamentary Paper,  No.  308  in Aid   of  Scientific  Investigation, &c., and  other 
of  Session  1908).—(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis.) 

( 3)  The	   amounts  expended  during  the  year 
by  the  Councils  out  of  the  sums  received 
by  them  under  the  A ct 

Grants. 

• 

. 

V O L.   164'.  	

z  z 

 
 
 
 
 
 
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3M 	

3 rd  August* 

1909. 

[No. 110. 

Board of 
Trade. 

Customs 
Department. 	

Class  I I.  	
2.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £250,700  (in­
cluding  a  Supplementary  sum  of  £31,000)  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,  to  complete  the  sum 
necessary  to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come 
in  course  of  payment  during the, year  ending   on 
the  31st  day of  March  1910  for  the  Salaries  and 
Expenses  of  the  Office  of  the  Committee  of 
Privy  Council  for  Trade  and  subordinate  De­
partments. 	

Revenue  Departments. 

3.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £1,429,600  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty, to  complete  the  sum 
necessary  to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come 
in course  of  payment  during  the  year  ending  on 
the  3lst  day  of  March  1910 for the  Salaries  and  

Expenses of the Customs and Excise Department. 


Scotland: 
28.  Fishery Board 
29.  Lunacy Commission 
30.  Registrar General's Office	 
31.  Local Government Board

-	

-	

-

-

-

-

-

£ 

- 13,197 
3,921 
3,231 
10,535 

Ireland : 

32.  Household  of  Lord  Lieutenant  of 
-
34.  Department  of  Agriculture  and  Tech­

Ireland 

-

-

-

nical Instruction 	

35.  Charitable	  Donations  and  Bequests 

Office 

-

36. Local Government Board 
37.  Public Record Office 
38. Public. Works Office 
39.  Registrar General's Office 
40. Valuation and Boundary Survey  -

-
-

2,672 

134,817 

-  1,055 
-  47,731 
- 
4,212 
-  27,992 
7,170 
15,726 

£1,111,392 

Class  I. 

Class  I I I. 
i  6.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £2,153,357   be 
4.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £1,994,784   be  granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come  in course of  payment during  the 
which  will  come  in course  of  payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910  for 
year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910  for  expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included  in  Class  I I I.  of  the Estimates  for  Civil  Services, 
in  Class  I.  of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services,  viz.  :— 
viz.   :— 

£ 

-  39,100 
-  7,300 
-  62,500 
-  31,900 
100 

-  28,500 

57,000 
-  57,100 
-  494,000 

-
-

-
-

- v  -
-
-

1. Royal Palaces 
2.  Osborne	 
-
3.  Royal Parks and Pleasure Gardens 
4.  Houses of Parliament Buildings  -
4A.  Salisbury Memorial 
5.  Miscellaneous	  Legal  Buildings,  Great 
-
6. Art	  and  Science  Buildings,  Great 

Britain 

- 

-

-

-

-

Britain 

- 

7.  Diplomatic and Consular Buildings 
8.  Revenue Buildings 
9.  Public  Buildings,  Great  Britain  (in-
cluding  a  Supplementary  sum  of 
£21,000)  -

-
9A.  Labour  Exchange  Buildings,  Great 
-

Britain 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-	

-  70,000 
-
-  110,076 
10.  Surveys of  the United Kingdom  -
-  45,196 
11.  Harbours under the Board of  Trade 
-  22,000 
12.  Peterhead Harbour 
13. Rates on Government Property 
-  354,500 
14.  Public Works and Buildings, Ireland  -  151,017 
-  33,495 
-	
15. Railways, Ireland -

-
-

-

-

-

-

-  431,000 

Class  I I. 

£1,994,784 	

5.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £1,111,392   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course of  payment  during  the 
year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included 
in  Class  I I.   of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services, 
v i z . :— 

1.  House of Lords Offices -
2.  House of  Commons Offices  -
7.  Privy Council Office 
-
9.  Mercantile Marine Services  -
10.  Bankruptcy  Department  of  the  Board 
-
-

of Trade 

-
-

-

-

-

-

-	

-

-

. 

•11. Board of Agriculture and Fisheries 
12.  Charity Commission 
-
. 
13.  Civil Service Commission  
14.  Exchequer and Audit Department 
15.  Friendly Societies Registry	  -
18.  The Mint, including  Coinage 
19.  National Debt Office 
20.  Public Record Office 
21.  Public Works Loan Commission  -
22.  Registrar General's Office, England 
23.  Stationery and Printing	 
24.  Woods,  Forests,	  and  Land  Bevenues, 
-
25.  Works and Public  Buildings  Office (in-
cluding  a  Supplementary  sum  of 
£9,339) 

&c. Office  -

... 

-
-

-	
-	

-

-

-

-

-	

£ 
15,894 
- 25,180 
6,240 
80,316 	

5 
98,169 
14,222 
.  21,403 
39,400 
5,807 
87 
7,882 
15,260 
848 
29,315 
390,960 

-  13,869 

26.  Secret Service 

-
-

- 
-

64,276 
10,000 

;  1. Law Charges 

-

-

-

£ 
59,897 
- 
-
- 
22,614 
2. Miscellaneous Legal Expenses  -
-  178,270 
-
3.  Supreme Court of Judicature 
22,555 
- 
-
-
4. Land Registry  -
300 
- 
-
-
5.  Public Trustee  -
3 
-
-
6. County Courts  -
-
7. Police, England and Wales 
24,888 
- 
-
8. Prisons, England and the Colonies  -  423,737 
9. Reformatory and  Industrial  Schools, 

-
-
-

Great Britain 

-

-

10. Broadmoor Criminal  Lunatic Asylum 

-  142,562 
46,248 

Scotland : 

11. Law Charges and Courts of Law 
12.  Register House, Edinburgh 
-
13.  Crofters Commission  - 
14. Prisons 

. 

. 

. 

-

-

- 
- 

„ 

52,185  , 
27,993 
2,485 
62,390 

Ireland : 

15. Law Charges  and  Criminal  Prosecu­

tions 

-	

16. Supreme  Court  of  Judicature  and 

other Legal Departments 
18. County Court  Officers, &c. 
19.  Dublin Metropolitan Police 
20. Royal Irish Constabulary 
.21.  Prisons 
-
-
22.  Reformatory and Industrial Schools  -
23. Dundrum Criminal Lunatic Asylum -

-

-

-

40,343 

61,919 
70,875 
36,963 
750,918 
67,695 
55,108 
3,409 

£2,153,357 

Class  I Y  . 

" 

7.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £8,232,508   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course of  payment  during the 
year  ending  on  the  31st  day of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included 
in  Class  I V.	   of  the  Estimates for  Civil  Services, 
viz.  :— 

1.  Board of Education  -
2.  British Museum 
-	
3.  National Gallery (including a Supple­
-

mentary sum of  £10,000) 
4.  National Portrait Gallery  -
5.  Wallace Collection 
-
7.  Universities  and  Colleges,  Great 

-
-
-

-

Britain,  and  Intermediate  Educa­
tion, Wales  -

-
8. Public Education, Scotland 
9. National Galleries, Scotland 

-
-
-

-

£
6,648,792 
119,228 

13,725 
2,793 
3,614 

-  142,400 
-  1,267,541 
2,392 
- 

Ireland: 

11.  Endowed  Schools Commissioners 
12.  National Gallery 
13.  Queen's Colleges
13A. Universities and Colleges  -

- 
  . 

. 

. 

-

. 

- 

- 

520 
1,153 
2,200 
28,150 

£8,232,508 

­
­
9  EDW.	  YII. 

Class   V . 
8.  That  a  sura  not  exceeding  £1,192,740  be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which will  come  in course  of  payment during  the 
year ending  on  the  31st  day of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included 
in  Class  V,  of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services, 
viz.  :—  • 

355 

Army  Estimates,  1909-10. 
12.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £15,120,100   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
I which  will  come in course  of  payment during the 
year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Army  Services, 
including  Army  (Ordnance  Factories),  viz.  :— 

1.  Diplomatic and Consular Services 
2.  Colonial Services
. 
3.  Telegraph Subsidies and Paqific Cable 
­  
4.  Cyprus (Grant  in Aid) 

-  347,006 
806,521 
38,213 
1,000 

 . 

. 

. 

' 

£1,192,740 

Class  V I. 

9.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £5,310,204   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course  of  payment during the 
year ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect of  the  Services  included 
in  Class  Y I.   of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services, 
viz. 

2.  Medical Establishment; Pay, &c. 
3.  Special Reserves 
4.  Territorial Forces 
5.  Establishments  for  Military  Educa­
- 
-
6.  Quartering,	  Transport,  and  Re­

tion 

-
. 

-
-

. 

. 

-

-

-

-

-

- 
- 

£ 
440,000 
897,000 
2,307,000 

146,000 

mounts 

-

-

r 
-

...  1,665,000 
-  4,275,000 

-

7.  Supplies and Clothing 
8.  Ordnance	  Department  Establish­
- 
535,000 
ments and General Stores.  -
-  1,644,000 
9.  Armaments and Engineer Stores 
-  2,551,000 
10.  Works and Buildings 
11.  Miscellaneous Effective Services 
67.000 
- 
12.  War	  Office  and  Army  Accounts 
- 

-

-

-

Department -
-
—  Ordnance Factories  -

593,000 
100 

. 

. 

-
. 

-

-

1.  Superannuation	  and  Retired  Allow­

ances 

-

-

-

-  376,139 

2.  Miscellaneous. Charitable  and  other 

Allowances­

-

-

- 

3.  Hospitals  and  Charities,  Ireland
4.	  Savings  Banks  and  Friendly

-	 
  Socie-
ties Deficiencies  (including a  Sup­
plementary sum of  £1,434)  -
-

5.  Old Age Pensions 

-

-

309 
981 

-  182,775 
-  4,750,000 

£5,310,204 

Class  V I I. 

10.	  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £423,416   be 
"granted  to	  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which will  come in course of  payment  during  the 
year ending  on  the  31st  day   of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included 
in  Class V I I.   of  the Estimates for Civil  Services, 
viz.  :— 

;	 

- 
1.  Temporary Commissions  -
;2.  Miscellaneous Expenses 
- 
-
;3'. Repayments tb the Local Loans Fund 
|4. Ireland Development Grant 
- 
- 
;5. Government Hospitality  -
6.  Repayments to the Civil Contingencies 

-
-

-

-

Fund 

-

-

-

-

-

-

<7.	  Expenses  under  the  Unemployed 

£ 

25,000 
7,123 
9,441 
86,874 
.5,000 

29,978­

-
Workmen Act, 1905 
8.  International Exhibitions  -

-
-

-  200,000 
60,000 
- 

£423,416 

| 
Navy  Estimates,  1909-10. 
11.  That  a  sum  not exceeding £22,298,460   be 
granted  to  His  Majesty,   to  defray  the  charge 
which  will  come  in  course of  payment during  the 
year  ending  on  the  31st day  of  March  1910  for 
expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Navy  Services, 
viz.:— 

! 

*	 

£ 

2.  Victualling and Clothing for the Navy  2,416,800 
258,700 
3.  Medical Establishments and Services 
12,700 
4.  Martial Law  -
159,300 
5.  Educational Services 
67,300 
6.  Scientific Services -
367,000 
•  7.  Royal Naval Reserves 

- 
- 
- 
- 

-
-
-
-

-
-
-
-

-

8.  Sec. 1.  Shipbuilding, Repairs, Main­

tenance, &c.—Personnel 
8.  Sec. 2. Shipbuilding, Repairs, Main­

-

-  3,148,200 

tenance, &c.—Materiel 

. -

-  4,392,100 

8.  Sec. 3. Shipbuilding, Repairs, Main­

tenance, &c.—Contract Work 

9.  Naval Armaments  -
11.  Miscellaneous Effective Services 
12.  Admiralty Office 

-

-

-

-

; 

-  8,278,300 
"  2,381,000 
- 
V 

438,800  ' 
378,200 

£22,298,400 

VO L.  164. 

£15,120,100 

The  first  Ten Resolutions, being read  a  second 

time,  were  postponed. 

The  Eleventh  Resolution,  being  read  a second 

time, was  agreed  to. 

The  Twelfth  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time  ; 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed, That this  House  doth  agree with 
the Committee  in the  said  Resolution  ; 

And  it  being  Teh  of  the  clock,  Mr.  Speaker,   Mr.  Speaker 
in  pursuance  of  Standing  Order  No.  15,  pro-   P«ts Question 
ceeded  to  put  forthwith  the  Question  necessary  (pn^uantto 
to  dispose of  the  Report  of  the  Resolution  then  s.o. No. 15.) 
under  consideration. 

A nd  the  Question  being put:—It  was  resolved 

in  the  Affirmative. 

Mr.  Speaker  then  proceeded,   in  pursuance  of  Mr. Speaker 
Standing  Order  No.  15,   to  put  forthwith  the  puts Questions 
; Questions,  That  this  House  doth  agree  with   outstanding 
the  Committee  in  the  outstanding  Resolutions  Beports 
reported  in  respect  of  each  Class  of  the  Civil  (pursuant to 
Services  Estimates  and  the  Revenue  Depart- s ' 0 ,  No" 
ments  Estimates. 

Civil  Services  Estimates,  1909-10. 

Class  I. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  this  House   Class I. 

doth  agree  with  the  Committee   in  the  outstand­
ing  Resolutions  reported  in  respect  of  Class   I . 
of  the  Civil  Services  Estimates; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas   to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for  thej"Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers  for t h e P  I r  :  C l a u d  e  H aV^ 
< Major  Anstruther­
[  Gray  : 

es' 

u 

189. 

54. 

J 

So  it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

Class  II. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  this  House  class II. 

doth  agree  with  the  Committee  in  the  outstand­
ing  Resolutions  reported  in  respect  of  Class  II. 
of  the  Civil  Services  Estimates ;  » 

The  House  divided, 

. a  -  8--'" 

z  z  2 

­
­


356 

3rd August. 

1909.  piuliO. 

The  Yeas  to the  Right; 

The  Noes   to  the  Left. 

Tellers  for  the J Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Captain  Norton  : 

Tellers for  thef Sir  William  Bull, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Du  Cros : 

193.

} 56.

So it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

Class  I I I. 

Class  III. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  this  House 
doth  agree  with  the  Committee  in  the  outstand­
ing  Resolutions  reported  in  respect  of  Class  I I I. 
of  the  Civil  Services  Estimates  ; 

Class IV. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas   to  the  R i g h t; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for  the f  Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(.Captain  Norton : 

Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Carlile, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Harry  Marks  : 

So it  was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 

1195.

}  57. 

Class  I V. 
And  the  Question  being  put, That  this  House 
doth  agree  with  the  Committee   in  the  outstand­
ing  Resolutions  reported  in  respect of  Class  I V  . 
of  the  Civil  Services  Estimates; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas   to  the  Right; 
The  Noes   to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for  the [ Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
t Captain  Norton  : 
Tellers  for  thef Sir  John  Randies, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

[Mr.  Arkvoright  : 

So  it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative.  


196.

\  57.
J 


Class   V . 

Class V. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  this  House 
doth  agree  with  the  Committee  in  the  outstand­
ing  Resolutions  reported  in  respect  of  Class   V . 
of  the  Civil  Services  Estimates  ; 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas   to  the  R i g h t; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
\Captain  Norton  :  


Yeas, 

Tellers for  the (Mr.  Peel,  


N oes, 

i Mr.  Hicks  Beach  : 

So it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

1195.

j  59.

Class  V I. 

Class VI. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  this  House 
doth  agree  with  the  Committee  in  the  outstand­
ing  Resolutions reported  in  respect  of  Class  V I. 
of 
the  Civil  Services  Estimates:  —   It  was 
resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

Class  V I I. 

Class  VII. 

And  the Question  being  put,  That  this  House 
doth  agree  with  the  Committee  in  the  outstand­
ing Resolutions  reported in respect of  Class  V I I. 
of  the  Civil  Services  Estimates:  —   It  was 
resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

Revenue  Departments  Estimates. 

Revenue
Departments 
Estimates. 

And  the  Question  being put,  That  this  House 
doth  agree  with  the  Committee  in the  outstand­
ing  Resolutions  reported  in  respect  of 
Revenue  Departments 

the 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas   to  the  Right; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 

Tellers  for  theJMr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers  for the f Mr.  Philip  Foster, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Walter  Guinness : 
So it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

1192.

1  57. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  reported  from  the  Committee   Navy  and 

on  Navy  and  Army  Expenditure,  1907-8, 
several  Resolutions;  which  were 
follow  : 

read,  as  1907_8i 

^ 

I.  Whereas  it  appears  by  the  Navy  Appro­
priation  Account  for  the  year  ended  the  31st 
day  of  March  1908,  and the Statement  appended 
thereto,  that  the  aggregate  expenditure  on 
Navy  Services  has  not  exceeded  the  aggregate 
sums appropriated  for  those  Services,  but  that, 
as shown  in  the  Schedule  hereto  appended,  the 
total  differences between  the  Exchequer  Grants 
for  Navy  Services  and  the  net  expenditure  are 
as follows,  viz.:— 

Total  Surpluses 

£, 

s.  d. 
888,815  18  5 

Total  Deficits 

720,472  5  6 

Net  Surplus 

£168,343  12  11 

And  whereas  the  Lords  Commissioners   of 

His  Majesty's  Treasury have temporarily  autho­
rised  the  application  of  so  much  of  the  said 
total  surpluses  on  certain  Grants 
for  Navy
Services  as is necessary  to  make  good  the  said 
total  deficits  on  other  Grants for  Navy  Services  : 

1.  That  the  application   of  such  sums  be 

sanctioned. 

Schedule. 

0>  © 
I I 

Navy  Services,  1907-8. 

Votes. 

Wages, &c. of  Officers, Seamen, 
and  Boys,  Coast  Guard,  and 
Royal  Marines. 

Victualling  and  Clothing  for 

the  Navy. 

Medical  Establishments  and 

Differences between  Exchequer 
Grants and Net  Expenditure.

Deficits. 

«.  d. 

£ 
155,329 

d. 
3 

40,556  7

6 

14,258

4  1 

. 

Services. 
Martial Law
Educational  Services 
-
Scientific Services 
Boyal  Naval  Reserves 
Shipbuilding,  Repairs,  Main­

. 

. 

. 

1,321  4 
12,302  2 
4,757  16 
66,804  14 

tenance,  &c.: 

I.  Personnel
II.  Materiel 

  . 

. 

. 

III.  Contract Work  ­
. 

Naval Armaments
. 
Works, Buildings,  and  Repairs, 

. 

at Home and Abroad. 

Miscellaneous Effective  Services 
Admiralty  Office
. 
Half  Pay, Reserved and  Retired 

. 

. 

Pay. 

Naval  and  Marine  Pensions,
Gratuities,  and  Compassion­
ate  Allowances. 

Civil  Pensions and  Gratuities  ­
Amount  written  ofE  as  irre­

coverable.  •• 

9 
10 

11 
12 
13 

14 

15 

193,737  11 
241,905  6 
304,827  2 

41,987  14 
6,914  2 

167,302  8
310,720  12

4 
5 

19,768  1 

18,855  16 

4,391  15  5 
3,547  15  11 

Total 

888,815  18  5 

720,472  5 

Net  Surplus 

£168,343  12  11 

I I.  Whereas   it  appears by  the  Army  Appro­
priation  Account  for  the  year  ended  the  31st 
day  of  March 1908, and the  Statement  appended 
thereto,  that  the  aggregate  expenditure   on 
Army  Services  has  not  exceeded  the  aggregate 
sums appropriated  for  those  Services,  but  that, 
as shown in  the  Schedule  hereto  appended,  the 
total  differences between  the  Exchequer  Grants 

 
­
 
 
­
­
1 

2 

3 

4 

5 

6 

7 

8 

9 

11 

12 

13 

14 

15 

16 

— 

110.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

3rd August. 

357 


for  Army  Services  and  the  net  expenditure  are 
as follows,  v i z . :— 

£ 

s.  d. 

Total  Surpluses  -

687,278  13  9 

Total  Deficits 

Net  Surplus 

-

-

68,820  13  10 

£618,457  19  11 

And  whereas  the  Lords  Commissioners   o f 

His  Majesty's  Treasury have  temporarily  autho­
rised  the  application  of  so  much  of  the  said 
total  surpluses  on  certain  Grants  for  Army
Services  as is  necessary  to  make  good  the  said 
total deficits on other  Grants for  Army  Services  : 

2.  That  the  application   of  such  sums  he 

sanctioned. 

Schedule. 

Army  Services,  1907-8. 

Votes. 

Pay, &c. of  Army 

Differences between  Exchequer  

Grants and Net  Expenditure.  


Surpluses. 

Deficits. 

& 

s.  a. 
138,765  3  3 

s.  d. 

& 
— 

Medical  Establishment;  Pay,

19,313  17  3 

the  Service  of  the  year  ending  on  the  thirty-

first  day  of  March  one  thousand  nine  hundred  

and  ten, and  to  appropriate  the  Supplies  granted  

in  this  Session  of  Parliament  :  And  the  same  

was  read  the first time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  

second  time  to-morrow.  


'  The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking   Board of 
into  consideration  the  Board   of  Trade  Bill,  as  ^ ^  B i l ]  ­
amended  in  the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Finance 

Committee  on  Finance 
dated  Fund); 

[Expenses] 

(Consoli­

kmd.)  *  6 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the isle of Man 

Second  Reading  of  the  Isle, of  Man  (Customs)  C?« 9toms)
Bill; 

' B l U -

°  

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Works 

Committee  on  the  Public  Works  Loans  B i l l;  

Loans  Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,

&c. 

Militia  :  Pay, Bounty, &c. 

112,056  16  11 

1— 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Imperial  Yeomanry:  Pay  and 

Allowances. 

Volunteer  Corps  :  Pay  and 

2,891  17  8 

22,949  4  10 

Allowances. 

Quartering,  Transport, 

and 

76,444  16  3 

Bemounts. 

Supplies and Clothing 

115,269  0  5 

Ordnance  Department  Estab­

101,021  2  5 

— 

— 

— 

— 

— 

lishments and General  Stores. 
Engineer 
and 

Armaments 
Stores. 

10 

Works and  Buildings 

— 

12,866  7  2 

84,225  5  9 

— 

Establishments 
Education. 

for  Military

Miscellaneous  Effective Services 

— 

War  Office and  Army  Accounts 

3,041  5  1 

Charges 

for 

10,828  4  9 

Department. 

Non-effective 
Officers, &c. 

780  13  8 

697  4  0 

— 

— 

Non-effective Charges  for  Men,

— 

47,1788  5  1 
47,17

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 
Second  Reading   of  the  London  Electric  Supply   F e c t  , r i  ° ,
  Supply  Bdl.
BJH  . 

1 1  J

®

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Customs and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland *nland  t>-„ 
Revenue  Bill,
r , 
Revenue  B i l l; 

-n-n 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking   Telegraph 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration)   (Arbitration)
Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee);  

11' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

&c. 

Civil  Superannuation,  Compen­
sation,  Compassionate  Allow­
ances, and  Gratuities. 
irrecoverable 

Balances 

and 

Claims abandoned. 

471  19  2 

— 

sideration  to-morrow. 

— 

7,297,2988  3  11 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking   Oaths Bill, 

Total 

687,278  13  9 

68,820  13  10 

Net  Surplus 

- £618,457  19  11 

into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  further 

consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  said  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second 

time, were  agreed  to. 

The  House,  according   to  Order,  proceeded   to  Bule 

take  into  consideration  the  Rule  Committee   Committee 
Bill,  as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

1  ' 

Ways and

Mr.  Hobhouse  reported  from  the  Committee 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  the  third  time 

S  i  Au  Stl
Beport.

Consolidated 
Fund 
(Appropria­
tion.) 

Consolidated 
Fund 
(Appropria­
tion) BiU. 

o f  W a ? s  a nd  M e a ns   o f  the  2nd  day   of  this 
instant  August  a  Resolution;  which  was  read, 
as  followeth: 

That, towards making good the Supply  granted 
to  His  Majesty  for  the  Service   of  the  year 
ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March  1910,  the  sum 
of  £76,991,102  be  granted  out  of  the  Consoli­
dated  Fund  of  the  United  Kingdom. 

The said  Resolution, being  read  a  second time, 

was agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  a  Bill   be  brought  in  upon  the 
said  Resolution:  And  that  the  Chairman   of 
Ways  and  Means,  Mr.  Chancellor   of 
the 
Exchequer,  and  Mr.  Hobhouse   do  prepare  and 
bring  it  in. 

to-morrow. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking   Licensed
into  consideration  the  Licensed  Premises  (Elec- Premises 
(Election
j .  j 
x: 
tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended 
Days)  Closing
Standing  Committee  j 
Bill. 

t-v..-..^   n i 

• 
in 

r>:ii 

^ 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con 

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  pf  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  Bishopric  of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric   of  Sheffield  Sheffield BiU. 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  accordingly  presented  a  Bill   to 
apply  a sum  out  of  the  Consolidated  Fund   to 

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Cheap Trains 

Second Reading  of the  Cheap  Trains  Bill;

Bil1­

VOL.  164. 

z  z  3 

­
­
Srd—4:th  August,  


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Public Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 	
Eights)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  A ct 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Bank Holidays  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
BllL 

Second  Reading  of  the  Bank  Holidays  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

\ 

The  House, in  pursuance  of the  Order  of  the Llanelly 
House  of  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  August,  W a t e  r  BlU­
proceeded  to  take into  consideration  the Amend­
ments made  by  the  Lords  to  the  Llanelly  Water 
Bill;  and the same were twice read, and agreed to 
Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed  to  the  Amendments  made by  their 
Lordships. 

Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The  Lune  Fisheries  Provisional  Order  Bill   Lune 

Second  Reading of the  Dogs'  Protection  Bill; 

Ordered,,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

was, according  to  Order, read  the  third  time and 
passed. 

Order  Bill. 

to-morrow. 

WildBirds 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued   to 
sit till fourteen  minutes  after  Eleven  of 
the clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

[ N o.  H I .] 

Wednesday, 4th August 1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

r p H  E  House,  in pursuance of  the  Order  of  the 
London 
County 
instant 
J.  House  of  the  2 nd  day  of  this 
Council 
(Money)  Bill.  	 August,  proceeded  to  take  into  consideration 
the  Amendment  made  by  the  Lords  to  the 
London  County  Council  (Money)  Bill;  and the 
same  was twice  read, and agreed  to. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendment  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

The  House,  in  pursuance  of  the  Order of  the 
Northallerton 
Water  Bill.  House  of  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  August, 
proceeded  to  take into  consideration  the  Amend­
ments  made  by  the  Lords  to  the  Northallerton 
Water  Bill;  and  the  same were  twice  read, and 
agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made by  their 
Lordships. 

Great Western  The  House,  in pursuance  of  the  Order  of  the 
Railway 
House  of  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  August, 
Powers) Bill,  proceeded to take  into consideration  the  Amend­
ments made by  the  Lords  to the  Great  Western 
•  -  Railway  (General  Powers)  Bill;  and the  same 

were  twice read, and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships, 

Great Central  „  The  House,  in  pursuance  of  the  Order  of  the 
H o u se   o f  t he  2 n d .  d a y  of  this  instant  August, 
(VaSus 
Powers) Bill,  proceeded  to take  into consideration  the Amend­

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

The  Marriages  Provisional  Order  (No.  2)  Bill  Marriages 
was, according  to Order, read  a second  time, and ol-der (No.^ 
committed. 

Bill, 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and Public 

read  ;  and  ordered to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Tide  Fourth 
Report. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His Aliens Act, 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Return  of  the  1905, 
Alien  Passenger  Traffic  between  the  United 
Kingdom  and  Ports  in  Europe,  or  within  the 
Mediterranean!  Sea,  during  the  three  months 
ending  30th  June  1909,  together  with  the 
number  of  Expulsion  Orders  made  during  that 
period  requiring  Aliens  to  leave  the  United 
Kingdom. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur- Polling: 
suant to  the directions of  an  Act   of  Parliament, Districts 
(County  of 
—-Copy  of  Order  made  by .the  Council  of  the Durham.) 
County  of  Durham,  altering  the  Polling  Places 
and Polling Districts for the Township of  Pelton, 
in the Chesterrle-Street  Parliamentary  Division. 

Ordered, That  the  said Papers do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.Ellis  reported  from  the  Select  Committee  Standing 

on  Standing  Orders  a  Resolution;  which  was  0rders- j
read,  as followeth  : 

That  in  the case of  the  Glasgow  Corporation  Glasgow 

Bill  [Lords]  the  Standing  Orders  ought  to 
dispensed  with ;  that the parties  be  permitted  to 
proceed  with their  Bill. 

Corporation 
L  °r 

The said Resolution,  being  read  a second  time, 

was agreed  to. 

The  House  was  moved,  That  the  Resolution  Glasgow 
which  was  reported  this  day  from  the  S e l e ct   Corporation 
Committee on Standing  Orders,  in  respect  of the  1  '  or 
Glasgow  Corporation  Bill  [Lords],  might  be 
read  ;  and the  same  being  read ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by ^
one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth  : 

Lords-

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Gas  Light  Gas Light and 
and  Coke  Company  Bil!,  with  Amendments  :  to  goke Company 
which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

• 
The  Lords  have  agreed to  the  W atford Urban  Watford 

District  Council  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  5;Trban.,DisHict 
which the. Lords  desire the, concurrence  of  this 
House. 

Council  Bill. 

ments  made by  the  Lords  to  the  Great  Central 
Railway  (Various  Powers)  Bill ;  and  the  same 
were  twice  read, and agreed  to. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Oldham  Cor-Oldham 
poration  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which  the Corporatio 
Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of this  House. 

^0.111]  9  EDW.  VII.  	

MhAugust. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Mountain  Ash 
Mountain Ash 
Co^ci^m 0 4  Urban  District  Council Bill, with  Amendments  ; 
to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of 
this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled   An 
South Africa 
Bill  [Lords.]  Act  to constitute the Union  of  South  Africa,;  to 
which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

South Africa 

BUI 297. 

The  South  Africa  Bill  [Lords]  was  read  the 
first time,  and  ordered  to be  read  a  second  time 
to-morrow;  and to  be  printed. 

Mr.  T.  W.  Russell presented  a Bill  to  prevent 
Weeds and 
f » r a  l 
the  spread of  noxious  Weeds  in  Ireland,  and to 
•(Ireland) Bill,	  make  provision  for  the  testing  of  Agricultural 
Bill 293.	  Seeds:  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Ordered,  That  leave  be  given  to  bring  in  a 
Wild  Animals 
In  Captivity  Bill  to  extend  the  Wild  Animals  in  Captivity 
Protection 
Protection  Act,  1900,  to  Scotland  :  And  that 
(Scotland.) 	
Mr.  Gathcart  Wason,  Sir  Frederick  Banbury,
Sir  Henry  Craik,  Major  Anstruther-Gray,  Mr. 
George  Greenwood, Mr.  Lyttelton,  Mr.  Lamont,
Mr. Murray  Macdonald, Mr. Ramsay Macdonald, 
Mr.  Sutherland,  Mr.  Dundas  White,  and  Mr. 
Younger do prepare  and  bring  it in. 
Wild  Animals  Mr.  Cathcart  Wason accordingly  presented  a 
in  Captivity  Bill  to  extend  the  Wild  Animals  in  Captivity 
Protection 
Protection	  Act,  1900,  to  Scotland:  And  the 
•(Scotland) 
same  was read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  to  be 
Bill. 
read  a  second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and  to 
be  printed. 

Bill  294. 

Evidence. 

Ordered,  That  leave  be  given  to  bring  in  a 
Bill  to  amend  the  Law  relative  to  the  right  of 
accused  persons  to  give  and  call  Evidence  on 
their  own  behalf:  And  that  Mr.  Belloc,  Mr. 
Arthur  Henderson, Mr.  Crooks,  Mr.  Lough,  Mr. 
Bottomley,  and  Mr.  Lea  do  prepare  and  bring 
it  in. 

Evidence  Bill.  Mr.  Belloc  accordingly  presented  a  Bill  to 
Bill 295.  amend  the  Law  relative  to  the  right  of  accused 
persons  to  give  and  call  Evidence  on  their  own 
behalf:  And  the  same  was  read  the  first  time, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  next;  and to be  printed. 

Shops (No. 2.)  A  Motion  was  made,  and  the  Question  being 
proposed, That leave be  given  to  bring  in  a  Bill 
to  consolidate,  amend,  and  extend  the  Shops 
Regulation  Acts,  1892  to  1904—(Mr.  Secretary 
Gladstone) ; 

Mr. Speaker 
And  the  Motion  being  opposed,  after  a  brief 
puts Question  explanatory  statement  from  the  Member  who 
SPaNonil.)
  the  Motion  and  from  a  Member  who 
opposed  it,  Mr.  Speaker  put  the  Question, 
pursuant to  Standing  Order  No.  11. 

  m a de

And  the  Question  was agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone, Mr. 
Herbert  Samuel, and  Mr.  Masterman do prepare 
and  bring  in the  Bill. 

Bill 296, 

Shops (No.  2)  Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  accordingly  pre-
sented  a Bill to  consolidate,  amend, and  extend 
BilL 
the  Shops  Regulation  Acts,  1892  to  1904 :  And 
the same  was read the first time,  and  ordered  to 
be  read  a second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and 
to  be  printed. 

Consolidated 
Fund	 
tton)Biu|a" 

The  Consolidated  Fund  (Appropriation)  Bill 
was, according  to  Order, read  a second  time, and 
committed  to  a  Committee  of  the whole  House 
for  to-morrow. 
VOL.   164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Buildings and 

Second  Reading  of the  Buildings and Engineer- ^mjsering 
ing  Works  Bill; 

; Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

; The  Order of  the day being read, for  resuming  Cinemato­
the adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed  g r a ph  Bl]1­
upon  the  21st day  of  April  last,  That  the  Cine-
matograph  Bill  be  now read  a second  time; 

;

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Committee  on the  Housing, Town  Planning, &c. 
x»:n  .  
n i " ' 

6» 

, 

. 

Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of the  day  being  read, for taking  Superannua­

into  consideration  the  Superannuation  Bill,  as tion,BUJ­
amended  in the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Friday  next. 

, 

The  Order   o f  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Child Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [Lords]; 

: 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Board  of 
take  into  consideration  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill, T r a du  Bil1­
as amended  in the  Standing  Committee. 

; Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time  


to-morrow. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Finance 

Committee  On  Finance 
dated  Fund)  ; 

[Expenses!  (Consoli-  [Expenses] 

K .) 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Isle  of  man (Customs)  Bill was, according  isle of  Man 

to  Order,  read  a second  time. 

(Customs)  Bill 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole House for  to-morrow.— 
(Mr.  Joseph Pease.)	 

; 

The  Order   o f  the.  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Works 

Committee  oil  the  Public  Works  Loans  Bill; 

L® 8118 B m-

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 

Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply  Electric  

B i l l; 

'  Supply  Bill.  


^ 

; Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland  inland 
Revenue  Bill;  

K e v e Me  Bil] ­

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking  Telegraph 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration)  ^Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended in  the  Standing  Committee)  ;  1  ' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

! 
Resolved,  That  this House  do  now  adjourn.—•  Adjouramen 

(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit till twenty-five  minutes  after 

j"  Ten	  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  to­

morrow. 

z  z  4 

360 	

5th August 

1909. 

[No. 112. 

[ N o.  1 1 2 .] 

Thursday,  5th August 1909. 
The  House  met  at a  quarter  of  an  hour 
before  Three  of the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

H o u se  

Gas Light and	  rTIHE  House,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the 
instant 
Coke Company 
t he  
August,  proceeded  to  take  into  consideration 
the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to  the  Gas 
Light  and  Coke  Company  Bill;  and  the  same 
were twice  read, and agreed  to. 

2nd  day  of  this 

o f 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Watford 
The  House,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the 
Urban  District House  of  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  August, 
Conner  Bu.   p r o c e e (Jed  to take into  consideration  the  Amend­

ments  made  by  the  Lords  to  the  Watford 
Urban  District  Council  Bill;  and  the same were 
twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Oldham 
The  House,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the 
Corporation  House  of  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  August, 
BiU. 	
proceeded  to  take into  consideration  the Amend­
ments  made  by  the  Lorda  to  the  Oldham 
Corporation  B i l l;  and  the same were  twice  read, 
and agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed  to  the  Amendments  made by  their 
Lordships. 

Mountain Ash 

The  House,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the 

Councii Bilr4  H o u se   o f  t he  2 nd  da J'  o f  this  instant  August, 
proceeded  to  take  into consideration  the  Amend­
ments made by  the  Lords to  the  Mountain  Ash 
Urban  District  Council  B i l l;  and  the  same were 
twice  read, and  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint them that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  into  considera­
tion  the  Stourbridge  and  District  Water  Board 

Stourbridge 
and District 
Water Board 
Bill [Lords.-]  Bill  [Lords],   as amended  in  the  Committee. 
And  Amendments  were made to  the  Bill. 
Ordered, That  Standing  Orders  223  and 243 
be  suspended,  and  that  the  Bill  be  now read  the 
third  time. —  (The  Chairman  of  Ways  and 
Means.) 

The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the third  time 

and passed, with  Amendments. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  with  Amendments  ;  to 
which  this House doth  desire the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon  the  Table. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 
Local 
Mr.  Burns  presented,  pursuant  to  the  direc-
Taxation 
tions of several Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy  of the 
Returns 
(England and  Local  Taxation  Returns  for  1906-7.  Parts  VI. 
Wales.) 

and  V I I. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His  Board of 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Annual  Report 
of  Proceedings  under  the  Acts  relating to  Sea 
Fisheries  for the  year  1907. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 


Table. 


Ordered,  That there be  laid before  this  House  Finance  BilL 
a  Copy  of  Clauses  11 (3),  14 (3),  and  14 (4)  (a)  No. 247. 
of  the  Finance  Bill  as  they  will  read  if  the 
Amendments  proposed  by  the  Government  are 
inserted.—(Mr  .Hobhouse.) 

Mr.  Hobhonse  accordingly  presented  the  said 

Paper. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Ordered, That  the  Special  Land  Tenures  Bill  Special  Land' 
enures  11. 

be  read  a second  time upon  Thursday  next., 

Ordered, That  the  Settled  Land  Bill  be  read  Settled Land 

a  second  time  upon  Thursday  next. 

'BlIL 

Ordered, That  the  Conveyancing  Bill  be  read  Conveyancing: 

a  second  time  upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  for  resuming,  upon  Tuesday  next,  Sale of 

the  adjourned Debate  on  the Amendment which, 
upon  the 25th  day  of  June  last, was proposed  to g S !  y  Bm. 
be made  on  consideration  of the  Sale  of  Intoxi­
cating  Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill,  as  amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee,  was  read,  and  dis­
charged; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 
instant 

till  Tuesday  the  17th  day  of  this 
August. 

Ordered,  That  the  adjourned  Debate  on the  Local 

Question  proposed  upon  the  7th  day  of  May  Government 
last,  That  the  Local  Government  Qualification  (England and­
(England  and  Wales)  Bill  be  now  read  a second  Wales)  Bill, 
time,  be  resumed  upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  the  North  North  Eastern 

Eastern  Railway  Bill  [Lords],  with  Amend­
ments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be printed. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  the  Risca  Risca  Urban 

Urban  District  Council  Bill 
Amendments. 

[Lords],  with district 

_ 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the  Torquay and 

Committee  on the  Torquay  and  Paignton  Tram-£aisnto11 
ways  Bill  [Lords']  ;  That, in  pursuance  of  the  Bif)™/,i>S.?.]. 
Resolution  of  the  House  of  the  14th  day  of 
July  last,  the  Committee  had  inserted  in  the 
Bill  the  additional  provision  referred to  in  such 
Resolution. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  further  reported  from 
the  Committee;  That  they  had  examined  the 
allegations  of  the  Bill,  and found  the  same to  be 
true ;  and had  gone  through  the  Bill  and made 
Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from, 

Message  had  been  brought  from the  Lords  by  t he Lords. 
one  of their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

T he  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Remission  of  Remission of 

Surcharges  (Dublin)  Bill,  without  any  Amend­
ment. 

° 

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5th  August  	

361 

Collooney, 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Collooney, 
Ballina, and  Ballina,  and  Belmullet  Railways  and  Piers  Bill, 
BelmuUet 
Railways  and  without  any  Amendment.  

Piers Bill. 

Trawling in 

Prohibited 
Areas 
(Prevention)  ments ; to which  the Lords desire the concurrence 
Bin. 

Prohibited Areas (Prevention) Bill, with Amend­

The  Lords	  have  agreed  to  the  Trawling  in 

of  this  House. 

Labour 
Exchanges 
Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Labour 
Exchanges  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which 
the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence of this  House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Greenock 
Greenock 
Corporation  Corporation  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which 
Bill. 
the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this  House. 
The  Lords  have  agreed to the London  County 
Council  (General  Powers)  Bill,  with  Amend-
ments ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concur-

London 
County 
Council 
(General 
Powers)  Bill.  rence of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Heywood 
Heywood 
Corporation  Corporation  Bill,  with  Amendments  ;  to  which 
Bill. 
the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this  House. 

Prestatyn 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Prestatyn 
Urban  District Urban  District  Council  Bill, with  Amendments; 
^ e  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of 
CounciliBill.  

this  House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
Stourbridge 
and  District  made  by  this  House  to  the  Stourbridge  and 
Water  Board  District  Water  Board  Bill  [Lords'],  without  any 
BiU  [Lords.] 

Amendment. 

Isle  of  Wight  Junction  Railway  Bill 

South  Western  The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
and Isle of  made  by  this  House  to  the  South  Western  and 
Wight 
[Lords],
Junction 
Bailway  Bill  	 without  any  Amendment. 
[Lords.] 
Gateshead  and  The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
District 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Gateshead  and 
Tramways 
Bill  [Lords.]  	 District  Tramways  Bill  [Lords],  without  any 

Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
Barry 
Bailway  Bill  made  by  this  House  to the  Barry  Railway  Bill 
[Lords.] 
[Lords],  without  any  Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
West  Kent 
Electric  Power  made  by  this  House  to the  West  Kent  Electric 
Bill  [Lords.]  Power  Bill	  [Lords],  without  any  Amendment. 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
Methwold  and 
Feltwell 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Methwold  and 
Drainage 
Bill  [Lords.]  	 Feltwell  Drainage  Bill  [Lords],  without  any 

Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
South  Eastern 
and  London,  made by  this  House  to  the  South  Eastern  and 
Chatham, 
London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railways  Bill 
and  Dover  	
Railways  Bill  [Lords],  without  any  Amendment. 
[Lords.] 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled   An 
Public Houses 
Improvement  Act  to facilitate  the  provision  of  accommodation 
Bill  [Lords.] 
for  supplying  Food  and  other  improvements  in 
connection  with  premises  licensed  for  the  sale 
of  intoxicating  liquors  by  retail;  to  which  the 
Lords desire  the  concurrence  of  this  House. 

Consolidated 
Fund 
(Appropria­
tion)  Bill.  	

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself 
into  a  Committee  on  the  Consolidated  Fund 
(Appropriation)  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.  1 to  No.  7 agreed  to. 
Schedules  A ,  B,  and  C  agreed  to. 
Bill  to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair  ;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  gone 
through  the  Bill, 
and  directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  East  India 


Committee  on  East  India  Revenue  Accounts  ; 

. 

. 

, 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  now  leave 
the  Chair  (for Committee on East India  Revenue 
Accounts)—(The  Master of  Elibank) ; 

Revenue 
Accounts. 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to  Educational 

the  Question,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word  System. 
"  That "  to  the  end of  the  Question,  and  adding 
the words  "  this House is of opinion  that reforms 
are  necessary  in  the  character  and  scope  of  the 
system of  Education  at present in force in  India." 
(Mr.  Hugh  Barrie.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
left  out  stand  part  of  the 

proposed  to  be 
Question  : —It  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

And  the  Main  Question  being  put; 

Ordered, That  Mr.  Speaker  do now  leave  the 

Chair. 

The  House  accordingly resolved  itself into the 

Committee. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved, That  it  appears  from  the  Accounts 
presented  to  Parliament  that  in  1907-8  the 
Revenue  of  India  amounted  to  £71,003,275, 
the  Expenditure  charged  against  Revenue  to 
70,697,229,  and  the  Capital  Expenditure  not 
charged  to  Revenue  to  £11,412,767.  —  (The 
Master  of  Elibank.) 

Resolution  to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  come  to  a  Resolution. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  South Africa 
the  South  Africa  Bill Bill [ Lords.] 

Second  Reading  of 
[Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Board of 
T r a de  BiU-

Third  Reading  of  the  Board  of  Trade  Bill  ;

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  isle  of  Man 
Committee  on  the  Isle  of  Man  (Customs)  B i l l;   ^Customs) 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Works 

Committee  on  the  Public  Works  Loans  Bill; 

Loans BUI. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  B i l l; 

BiU 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Telegraph 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration)  (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee) ; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

1  ' 

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Rule  


Third  Reading  of  the  Rule  Committee  Bill;  

Committee 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the  third  time 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

VOL.  164. 

upon  Monday  next. 

3  A 



 


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5th—6th  August. 

1909. 

[No. 113. 

"Under Sheriffs 
(County 
Boroughs) 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Under  Sheriffs  (County 
Boroughs)  (Ireland)  Bill,   as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Monday  the  23rd  day   of  this 
instant  August. 

Licensed 
Premises 
(Election 
Days)  Closing 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 

into  consideration  the  Licensed  Premises  (Elec­
tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Bishopric of 
Sheffield Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric   of  Sheffield 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Burial  Places 
(Exemption 
from  Bates) 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Burial  Places  (Exemp­
tion  from  Rates)  (Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  19th  day  of  this  instant 
August. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Industrial 

the  Pawning 

Second  Reading  of 
Tools  B i l l: 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

Horns of 
Labour 
(Surfacemen) 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Hours  of  Labour  (Sur­
facemen)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Sea Fisheries 
Regulation 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Sea Fisheries  Regulation 
(Scotland)  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Cheap Trains
Bil1­

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Cheap  Trains  Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Public  Health 
Act(1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Rights)  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading   of  the  Dogs'  Protection  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Wild  Birds 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

And  then  the  House,  having  continued  to 
sit  till  two  minutes  after  Eleven  of  the 
clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

[No.  113.] 

Friday,  6th August 1909. 
The  House  met  at  Twelve   of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

TH E  House,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the  Heywood 

House of  the 2nd  day  of this instant August,  Corporation 

proceeded  to take  into  consideration the  Amend-
ments  made  by  the  Lords   to  the  Heywood 
Corporation  Bill;  and the  same  were  twice  read, 
and  agreed  to. 

1  ' 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk   do  carry  the  Bill   to 
the Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

The  House,  pursuant  to  the  Order   of  the  Prestatyn 
House  of  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  August,  Urban  ^strict 
proceeded  to  take  into consideration the  Amend-   0 o u n cU  11" 
ments  made  by  the  Lords  to  the  Prestatyn 
Urban  District  Council  Bill;  and  the  same were 
twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill   to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Standing  Order  1  was  read,  and  amended, Standing 

in  p.  84,  2nd  Class,  second  column,  1.  4,  by  ?pd.erst 
inserting,  after  the  word  "  harbour,"  the  words Business.) 
"  motor  road." 

Definitions  were  read,  and  amended,  in p.  89, 
1, 14,  by  inserting,  after  the  word  "  tramroad," 
the  words  "  and motor  road." 

Standing  Order  9 was  read,  and  amended,  in 
p. 94,  1. 20, by  inserting,  after the word  "  urban," 
the  word  "rural." 

Standing  Order  33  was  read,  and  amended,  in 
p. 114,1.7,  by inserting, after the  word  "  Trade," 
the  words— 

"	  (5)  Of  every  Bill  relating   to  the  generation  

of  electricity  for  supply  to  persons or  bodies  

other  than  the  promoters,  at  the  Office   of  

the  Board  of  Trade  and  at  the  Office of  the  

Commissioners  of  Works."  


And  in  p.  115,  1. 4,  by  leaving  out  "  1874," 

and  inserting  "  1901,"  instead  thereof. 

Standing  Order  35a  was  read,  and  amended, 
in p.  117,1.  12,  by  inserting,  after  "  1862,"  the 
words  "  or  the  Companies  Consolidation  Act, 
1908." 

Standing  Order  63  was  read,  and  amended, 
in  p.  138,  1. 20, by  inserting,  after  "  1862,"  the 
words  "  or  the  Companies  Consolidation  Act, 
1908." 

And  in  1. 29,  by  inserting,  after  "  1862,"  the 
4 or  the  Companies  Consolidation  Act, 

words 
1908." 

Standing  Order  65  was  read,  and  amended, 
in  p.  143,  1.  27,  by  inserting,  after "  1862,"  the 
words  "  or  the  Companies  Consolidation  Act, 
1908." 
And 

in  p.  144,  1.  15,  by  inserting,  after 

"1862,"  the  words  " or  the  Companies  Consoli­
dation  Act,  1908."  


Standing  Order  173«  was  read,  and  amended,  

in  p.  209,1.  14,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "  or,"  

and by  inserting, after the  word  "  Sanitary,"  the  

words  "  or  other  Local  Government."  


Standing  Order  175  was  read,  and  amended, 
in p.  211,  1. 3,  by  leaving  out  the  words  "  the 
Patents,  Designs,  and  Trade  Marks  Act,  1883," 
and  by  inserting  the  words  " t he  Patents  and 
Designs  Act,  1907,"  instead  thereof. 

 
 


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6th—9th August. 

363 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 

Local 
Taxation 
Returns 
(England  and 
Wales.) 

No. 248. 

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904. 

Standing  Order  200a  was  read,  and  amended, 
in p.  230,  1. 17, by inserting,  after the  word  " a ," 
the word  "  Public,"  and by  leaving  out  from the 
word  "  Bill  "  to  the word  "not."  in  1.  18. 

And  in  1. 19,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
"  is "  to  the  word  "  ordered,"  in  1.  2 0— (The 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means.) 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read;  and ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Paper  relative  to  Local 
Taxation  Returns  (England  and  Wales),  which 
was presented  upon  the  5th  day  of  this  instant 
August,  be  printed. 

' Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copy  of  Orders  made  by  the  Councils  of  the 
Counties  of  Devon  and  the  Isle  of  Wight,  and 
the  Urban  District  of  Wallasey,  under the Shop 
Hours Act, 1904, and confirmed by the  Secretary 
of  State  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
hours  of  closing  for certain  classes of  Shops. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Adjournment.

Resolved,  That  this  House,  at  its  rising  this 
day,  do  adjourn till  Monday  next.—(Mr. Joseph
Pease.) 

Public  Works 
Loans  Bill. 

The House, according  to Order,  resolved  itself 
into  a  Committee  on  the  Public  Works  Loans 
Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.  1 to  No.  4  agreed  to. 
Schedule  agreed  to. 
Bill  to be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  gone  through  the  Bill, 
and  directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the  third time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Secretary  of 
the  Board of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries 
Bill. 

The  Secretary  of  the  Board  of  Agriculture 
and  Fisheries  Bill  was, according  to  Order, read 
a  second  time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Monday 
next.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Isle of  Man 
(Customs) 
Bill. 

The  House,  according  to  Order, resolved itself 
into  a Committee  on the  Isle  of  Man  (Customs) 
Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.  1 to  No.  4  agreed  to. 
Bill  to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman  reported, That the  Committee 
had  gone  through  the  Bill,  and  directed  him  to 
report  the  same, without  Amendment. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  now  read  the  third 
time  :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read the  third 
time  and passed. 

Ordered, That,  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire  their  concurrence. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Monday 
next.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

The  Assistant  Postmaster  General  Bill  was,  Assistant 

according  to  Order, read  a second  time. 

Genial  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Monday 
next.—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to Superannua­

take  into  consideration  the  Superannuation  Bill,t i on  B m ­
as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee. 

And  an Amendment  was made to  the  Bill. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Board  of  Trade  Bill  was,  according  to  Board  of 
Trade  BiU-

Order, read  the  third time  and  passed.

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and  desire their  concurrence. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn.- Adjournment. 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued to  sit till  seventeen  minutes  before  

Two  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  Monday  

next. 


[No.  114.] 

Monday,  9th August 1909. 
The  House  met  at a quarter of  an  hour  

before  Three  of  the  clock.  


P E A T E E S. 

THE  House,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the  Greenock 

House  of  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  Corporation 

August,  proceeded to take into  consideration  the 
Amendments made by the Lords to the  Greenock 
Corporation  Bill;  and the  same were  twice read, 
and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to  

the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House  

hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made by  their  

Lordships. 


The  House,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the  London 
House  of  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  August,  q"™*^ 
proceeded  to  take into  consideration  the Amend-  (General 
ments  made by the  Lords to the  London  County  Powers)  Bill. 
Council  (General  Powers)  Bill;  and  the  same 
were  twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

The  Glasgow  Corporation  Bill  [.Lords]  was  Glasgow 

read  a second time,  and  committed. 

Corporation 

Ordered, That  Standing.  Orders  211  and  236  BlU  [Lords -'] 

be  suspended,  and  that  the  Committee  on  the 
Bill  have  leave  to  sit and  proceed  to-morrow.— 
(The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means.) 

A  Public  Petition  was  presented,  and  read  Public 

and  ordered  to  lie upon  the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 
Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His  Board  of 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Annual  Report  Agriculture 
on  the  distribution  of  Grants  for  Agricultural  foLribution 
Education  and  Research  in  the  year  1907-8,  of  Grants.) 
&c. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Be venue  Bill. 

The  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue  Bill  was, 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

according  to  Order, read  a second  time. 

. 

Table. 

VOL.  164. 

3  A  2 

 
364 

9 th  August. 

1909. 

[No. 114. 

British  Ships 
(Desertions 
and  Failures 
to  Join.) 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,   by  His  Majesty's 
Command,  —  Copy  of  Return  of  number  of 
Desertions  from  and  Failures   to  join  British 
Ships  in  various  parts  of  the  world. 

Railway 
Returns. 

Statistical 
Abstract 
(United 
Kingdom.) 

Railway 
Servants 
(Hours of 
Labour.) 

No. 249. 

Copy  of  Returns  as  to  the  capital,  traffic 

receipts,  and  working  expenditure  of  the  Rail­
way  Companies  of  the  United  Kingdom  for  the 
year  1908,  with  a  General  Report  thereon,  and 
Summary  Tables  for  a  series   of  years. 

Copy  of  Statistical  Abstract  for  the  United 
Kingdom,  in  each  of  the  last  fifteen  years,  from 
1894  to  1908.  Fifty-sixth  Number. 

Mr.  Churchill  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Report  by  the  Board  of  Trade  respecting  their 
Proceedings  under  the  Railway  Regulation  Act, 
1893,  relating  to  the  Hours  of  Labour   of 
Railway  Servants  during  the  year  ended  27th 
July  1909. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the 
Table;  and that  the  Paper  relative   to  Railway 
Servants  (Hours  of  Labour)   be  printed. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,   by  His 
Boyal
Corporation"1'1 M a  j e s t  y ' s  Command, —  Copy   of  Fifth  Report 
j j  0 Y a j  p at ri 0tic  Fund  Corporation,  for 

orpora  ion.

^

the  year  1908. 

Charitable
Behests8 a nd
(Ireland.)

Copy  of  Sixty-fourth  Annual  Report   of  the 
  Commissioners  of  Charitable  Donations  and 

Bequests  for  Ireland. 

Ordered,  That the said  Papers   do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Births, Deaths, 
and  Marriages 
(Scotland.) 

Permanent 
Charges 
Commutation. 

Pacific  Cable 
Act,  1901. 

No.  250. 

The  Lord  Advocate 

presented,   by  His 
Majesty's  Command,  —  Copy   of  Fifty-third 
detailed  Annual  Report   of 
the  Registrar 
General  for  Scotland   of  Births,  Deaths,  and 
Marriages  in  Scotland  (Abstracts  for  1907). 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  several  Acts   of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Return  of  Permanent  Charges  on  the  Con­
solidated  Fund  or  Votes  of  Parliament  which 
in  the  period  from  6th 
have  been  redeemed 
August  1907 to  6th  August  1909. 

Account  showing  the  money  issued  from  the 
Consolidated  Fund  under  the  provisions  of  the 
Pacific  Cable  Act,  1901,  and   of  the  money 
received,  expended, and  borrowed, and  securities 
created,  under  the  said  A ct   to  the  31st  March 
1909;  together  with  a  Copy   of  the  Report  of 
the  Chairman  of  the  Pacific  Cable  Board. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the 
Table  ;  and  that  the  Paper  relative   to  the 
Pacific  Cable  Act,  1901,   be  printed. 

Colonial 
Reports 
(Annual.) 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—-Copy  of  Colonial  Report  No.  607 
(Jamaica,  Report  for  1907-8). 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Naval 
Expenditure 
(Principal 
Naval 
Powers.) 

No.  251. 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented, —  Return  

to  an 
Order,  dated  the  11th  day   of  May  last,  for  a 
Return  relative to Naval Expenditure  (Principal 
Naval  Powers). 

Ordered, That  the  said  Return  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and   be  printed. 

The  following  Paper  was laid  upon  the  Table 
Inquiry  into
by  the  Clerk  of  the  House  :—Further  Return 
Charities
tWeCounty  Of to  an  Order,  dated  the  26 th  day  of  July  1905, 
for  a  Return  relative  to  Inquiry  into  Charities 
Devon.) 
(Administrative  County   of  Devon). 

No. 262. 

The following Paper, pursuant  to the directions  Public 

of  an A ct   of  Parliament,  was  also  laid  upon  the  ®eac.^ls,(Hia 
Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House  :—Copy   of  customs and 
Fifth  Schedule,  containing  a list  and  particulars  Excise.) 
of  Classes of  Documents  existing  or  accruing  in 
the  Office of  the  Commissioners  of  Customs  and 
Excise  which  are  not  considered   of  sufficient 
public  value  to justify  their  preservation  in  the 
Public  Record  Office. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Return   be  printed. 

Mr.  Chiozza Money,  supported by  Mr. Aslbury,  Professional 
Mr.  Arnold  Herbert,  and  M r.   Radford,  presented  Accountants 
a  Bill  to  provide  for  the  registration   of  Profes-
sional  Accountants  in  Great  Britain  and  Ireland, 
and  for  other  relative  purposes  :  And  the  same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  next;  and  to  be  printed. 

1 

1 

The  House,  according   to  Order, resolved itself  Finance  Bill, 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill, 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  10  (Duty  on  site  value  of  unde­

veloped  land). 

Amendment  proposed, in  p.  8,  1.  23,  to  leave 
out  the  words  "  Part   of  this."—(Mr.  Austen 
Chamberlain.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:  — 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,   in p.  8,  1.  24, 
after  the  word  "  paid,"   to  insert  the  words  "  in 
respect  of  land  passing  by sale,  lease,  transfer, or 
otherwise  after  the  commencement  of  this  A c t ." 
—(Mr.  Remnant.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words   be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for  the (Sir  Alexander  Acland-

Yeas 
' 

. H o o d > 

1  
(Viscount  Valentia  : 

Tellers  for  the J Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
ICaptain  Norton  : 

Noes, 

7 9 ' 

] 

( 
J 

J 

. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,   in p.  8,1.  24, 
after  the  word  "year,"   to  insert  the  words 
"  after  the  year nineteen hundred  and  nineteen." 
—(Mr.  Fell.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words   be  there 

inserted: 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Chairman  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave 
to  sit  again—(Lord  Robert 
Cecil)-.—Debate 
arising  ,• 

Mr.  Attorney  General  rose   in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the Question   be now  put. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question   be  now  put.  Question  put 
The  Committee  divided. 
& T s u r e° 
Tellers  for  thefMr.  Joseph Pease,  

  Debate.) 

o f

)
} 

' 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

T  ller  for  the f 

Alexander  Acland- 

"j 

°  N o e ° r 
' 

I I o o d  >

1   r .
(Viscount  Valentia  : 

9 1 ­

f
) 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Chairman 

do  report  Progress, and  ask  leave  to  sit  again. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the/Lord  Robert  Cecil, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Stanley  Wilson : 


Tellers  for  the I Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


} 91. 

!•  190. 

Noes, 

ICaptain  Norton  ; 
Original  Question  again  proposed,  That  those 

words  be  there  inserted  :—Debate  arising; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question 
be now  put. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
NO, 114]  9  EDW.  VII. 

9th—10^  August. 

Q uestion  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question  be  now  put.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

\ Captain  Norton: 

J 

Tellers  for  th e[ ^Alexander  Acland• 

Noes, 

} Viscount  Valentia: 

J 

93. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  those  words 

be  there inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for  the fMr.  Fell, 

Yeas, 

\Mr. Mitchell-Thomson 

Noes, 

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
1 Captain  Norton : 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  8,  1.  25, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "  undeveloped."—(Mr. 
Joynson-Hicks.) 

1

/  93. 
1189. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  unde­
veloped "  stand  part  of  the  Clause:—Debate 
arising  ; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the* Question 
be now  put. 

Question  put,  That the  Question  be  now  put.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

} 171. 

Question put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Tellers  for the {^Alexander 

Noes 
' 

H o o d > 

j 
( Mr. Henry  Forster: 

Acland- 1 
r
J 

69. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  word 

"  undeveloped  "  stand  part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

T  11 

f 

th  I 

Alexander Acland­

175. 

83. 

Henry  Forster  : 

J 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  claimed 
to  move,  That  in  respect  of  the  words  of  the 
Clause to  the word  "  or,"  in p. 8,1.  30, the  Chair 
be  empowered  to  select  the  Amendments  to  be 
proposed. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  thej Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

1 Captain  Norton : 


365 

| 208. 

Tellers  for  the ("Mr. Mitchell-Thorn son, 

(Mr.  Fell: 

Noes, 

]  112. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8  1. 27, 
at  the  end,  to  insert  the  words  "  but the  duty 
shall in  no case  exceed five shillings  per  acre  of 
such undeveloped  land."—(Sir  Robert  Ropner.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted: 

Tuesday, 10th  August  1909 : 


Question  put.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the j  Sir  Robert  Ropner,  


Yeas, 

( Mr.  Renwick : 


Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

( Captain  Norton: 

96. 

175. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,  1.  30, 
after the  word  "  upon,"  to  insert  the  words  "  or 
laid  out or  prepared for  building."—(Mr.  Peel.) 
Question proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  claimed  to 
move,  That in respect  of  the words of  the  Clause 
to  the  end of  p.  9,1.  3,  the  Chair  be  empowered 
to  select  the Amendments  to  be  proposed. 

Question  put,  That  in respect  of  the words of  Chair 
the  Clause  to  the  end  of  p.  9,  1. 3,  the  Chair tHeieS16 
be  empowered  to  select  the  Amendments  to  be  Amendments, 
proposed. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

( Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  the  ( S i  r  Alexander  Acland-­

Noes 
' 

. d >

1  
( Viscount  Valentia : 

162. 

81. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,  1.  32, 
to  leave  out from  the  beginning  thereof  to  the 
end of  1. 36.—(Mr.  Ridsdale.) 

Question  proposed,  That the  words  "  Provided 
that  where "  stand  part of  the  Clause  :—Debate 
arising; 

Chair 
empowered 
to  select 
Amendments. 

Question  put,  That  in respect  of  the  words  of 
the  Clause  to  the word  "  or,"  in  p.  8,  1.  30,  the 
Chair  be empowered  to  select  the  Amendments 
to  be  proposed. 

Mr.  Beaumont rose  in  his  place  and  claimed  Closure 

to  move,  That  the Question be  now put;  but the 
Chairman  withheld his  assent, and  declined  then  withholds his 
to put  that  Question. 

assent. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for thej Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Captain Norton  : 
(Sir  Alexander  A eland-

Yeas, 

,i 

m  ,, 
, 
Tellers  for the J 
Noes 
' 

, 
„ 
1  Hood, 
I Mr.  Henry  Forster  : 

178. 

81. 

j

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,  1.  26, 
to leave  out the  word  "  halfpenny,"  in  order  to 
insert  the  word  "farthing."  —  (Mr.  Mitchell-
Thomson.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  - word  "  half­
penny "  stand  part  of  the  Clause:  —  Debate 
arising  ; 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now put. 
Question  put,  That  the  Question  be now  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for thej Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
(Captain  Norton : 
( Sir  Alexander  Acland-

215. 

,, 

Yeas, 
m  ,, 
c 
Tellers  for  the I 
JNoes, 

ffood> 

(Viscount  Valentia: 

100. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  word 

"  halfpenny "  stand part  of the  Clause. 

VOL.  164. 

Question,  That  the  words  "  Provided  that 
where "  stand  part  of  the Clause, put, and agreed 
to. 

An  Amendment  made. 
Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 
Chairman  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to 
sit  again.—(Mr.  Balfour.) 
The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for  the  

Yeas, 


{

Sir Alexander  Acland-

Hood,

Tellers for thej Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 8,  1. 36, 

Viscount  Valentia : 

Noes, 

"1
J 

151. 

at the  end, to  insert  the  words  " and 

(b)  Where  the  owner   of  any land  shows that 

he  or  his  predecessors  in  title  have  spent  

sums  at  the  rate  of  at  least  one  hundred  

pounds  per  acre  for  the  purpose  of  so 
developing  the  land  that  land  shall,  for  

the. purposes  of  this  section,  not  be treated  

as undeveloped  land  although  it  is  not  for  

the  time  being  built  upon  or  used  for  any  

business,  trade,  or 
industry  other  than 
agriculture;  but  for  the  purposes   of  this  


3  A  3 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 





366 

9th—10^

into 
provision  no  sums  shall  be  taken 
account  after  ten  years  have  elapsed  since 
the  time  when  the  sums  were  spent." 

—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed  to the  proposed  Amend­
ment,  in  1. 2.  after  the  word  "  title,"  to  insert 
the  words  " o  r  any  of  his  or  their  lessees  or 
tenants,  or  other  persons  in  contract  with  him 
or  them."—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted  in  the proposed  Amendment:—Amend­
ment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,   by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  proposed to the proposed 
Amendment,  in  1. 2, to  leave  out  from  the  word 
"  have "  to  the  word  "  that,"  in  1.  3,  in  order 
to  insert  the  words  " either  spent  sums  at  the 
rate  of  fifty  pounds  per  acre  for  the  purpose 
of  so  developing  the  land, or  have  laid  out  the 
land  for  building."—(Mr.  PeeV 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 
left  out,  to  the  word  "  for,"  in  1. 3,  stand  part 
of  the  proposed  Amendment. 

139. 

1 
J 

55. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  thefMr.  Joseph  Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the f Mr.  Peel, 

Noes, 

(Sir  William Bull: 
Another Amendment  proposed to the proposed 
Amendment,  in  1.  3,  after  the  word  "  acre,"   to 
insert  the  words  "  of  the  net  land  capable  of 
development."—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  in  the  proposed  Amendment:—Amend­
ment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment proposed to the  proposed 
Amendment,  in  1. 3,  to  leave  out  the  word  " s o ." 
—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question  put,  That  the  word  "  so "  stand  part 

of  the  proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the J Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

1  ^ y 
J 
Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Watson  Rutherford,\ 
/ 
IMr.  Peel-. 

(Captain  Norton: 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

Another Amendment  proposed to the proposed 
Amendment,  in  1. 3,  after  the  first  word  "  land," 
to  insert  the  words "  on  roads  (including  paving, 
kerbing,  metalling,  and  other  works  in  con­
nection  with  roads)  or  sewers."—(Mr.  Leif 
Jones.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  in the  proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the ("Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers  for  the! Earl   of  Kerry, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Hugh  Barrie  : 

'}  127. 

j  51. 

Another Amendment proposed to the proposed 
Amendment,  in  1. 6, to  leave  out  from the  word 
"  agriculture  "  to the end of  the proposed  Amend­
ment.—(Mr.  Lyttelton.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed   to  be 
left  out  stand  part of  the  proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the (Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton-. 

^>123 
J 

Tellers  for  the fViscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Henry  Forster  : 

\ 
J 

August. 
Words,  as amended,  inserted. 

1909. 

[No. 114. 

Mr.  Chancellor   of  the  Exchequer  claimed 
to  move,  That  in  respect  of  the  words  of 
the  Clause  to  the  end  thereof  the  Chair  be 
empowered  to  select  the  Amendments  to  be 
proposed. 

Question  put,  That  in respect  of  the  words  of  Chair 

the  Clause  to  the  end  thereof  the  Chair  be
empowered  to  select  the  Amendments  to  be  Amendments, 
proposed. 

3 ^  r e  d 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the [ Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the/ Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

LMr.  Henry  Forster  : • 

124. 

r 

44. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Question  proposed,  That 
amended,  stand  part  of  the  Bill  : 

the  Clause,  as 

To  report  Progress, and ask leave  to  sit  again. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the 
Bill  ;  and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That 
the  Committee  may  have leave  to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again  resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  public Works 

Third  Reading  of  the  Public  Works   L o a ns   Loans Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Consolidated 

Third  Reading  of 
(Appropriation)  Bill; 

the  Consolidated  Fund ^nnd 

L^B S T" 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Established 

Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church  Church 
(Wales)  Bill;  

<Wales>  BilL 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the day being read, for  resuming  Houses of 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the Amendment which,  Parliament 
upon  the  20th  day  of  April  last, was  proposed  Bl11, 
to be  made  to  the  Question,  That  the  Houses   of 
Parliament  Bill  be now  read  a second  time; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  Dublin Police 

Second  Reading  of  the  Dublin  Police  Bill;  

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lunacy 

Second  Reading  of  the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill  ;  

(Ireland)  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government  ^ernment 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill;  

Accounts) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  (Ireland)  Bill, 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   County,' 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-   Councils 
g ? «» 
gages  B i l l; 

_  

# 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 





No. 114.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

9th—10^ 

Merchandise 
Marks 
(Ireland) Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Merchandise  Marks 
(Ireland)  Bill ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Fisheries 
(Ireland) Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Fisheries  (Ireland)  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Electric 
Lighting  Acts 
Amendment 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
Amendment  Bill  [Lords],   as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Friday  next. 

London 
Elections  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee); 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Marine 
Insurance 
(Gambling 
Policies) Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 

into  consideration  the  Marine  Insurance  (Gam­
bling  Policies)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 
Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Friday  next. 

House Letting 
and  Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the House Letting  and  Rating 
(Scotland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 
C o m m i t t e e; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Irish Land 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  the  Irish  Land  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House will, upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

"Weeds and 
Agricultural 
Seeds 
(Ireland) Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Weeds  and  Agricultural 
Seeds  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Shops (No. 2) 
Bill.  ­

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Shops  (No.  2)  Bill; 

August. 
367 
Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

T he  O r d er   o f 

t he  d ay  b e i ng  r e a d,  f or  t he  South Africa 

Second  Reading  of  the  South  Africa  Bill B iU   i^ords.] 
[Lords'] ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be- read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 
Committee  on  the  Secretary  of  the  Board   o f   ^ e  Board of 
aiSVisheries 
Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day,  Bl11, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Committee  on  the  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue 
Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Bil] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Assistant 
Committee  on  the  Assistant  Postmaster  General  P°8tmaster 
n  . n 
B i l l; 

General Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Superannua­

Third  Reading  of  the  Superannuation  Bill;

tion  BiU-

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the third  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Places  of 
Second  Reading  of_  the  Places  of  Worship  g ° ^ P c h ig 
ment)Bill. 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Election of 

Second  Reading  of the  Election  of  Aldermen  in 
Municipal  Boroughs  Bill;  

Boroughs  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Check-

Second Reading of the Checkweighing  in various 
Industries  Bill;  

i n 

Industries 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time Bl11­

this  day. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Milk and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Milk  and  Dairies  Bill;   Dairies Bill. 

Buildings and 
Engineering 
Works Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on the  Housing, Town  Planning, &c. 
Bill; 

Resolved, That this House will,  upon  Thursday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Child Murder 
(Trial)  Bill 
[Lords.'] 

The  Order  of  the  clay  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

Finance 
[Expenses] 
(Consolidated 
Fund.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on Finance  [Expenses] ( Consolidated 
Fund); 

VO L.   164. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order of the day being  read, for  resuming  cinemato­
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed  ^P11  Bil1­
upon  the  21st day  of  April  last,  That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time  ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 
Second  Reading of  the  London  Electric  Supply  ®Ieot,ricD.n
Supply  Bill. 
^.JJ 

r 

& 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Telegraph 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration)  (Arbitration) 
Bill (not  amended in the  Standing  Committee)  ;  1 " 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Friday  next. 

3  A  4 

 
868 

9 th—1<M

August. 

1909. 

[No. 114. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

Third  Reading  of  the  Rule  Committee  Bill; 

this  day. 

Bule 
Committee 
Bill. 

Oaths Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

this  day. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as  amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  further 

consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
Licensed 
Premises 
into  consideration  the  Licensed  Premises  (Elec-
Days) Closing  tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,   as  amended  in  the 
Bill.

Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

Bishopric of 
Sheffield Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  dav. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Education
(Conditions  of  Second  Reading  of  the  Education  (Conditions 
Grant)  Bin.

o f  G r a n t) 

B i I1 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  t he  Anaesthetics 

Second  Reading  of  the  Anaesthetics  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 
upon  Saturday  the  28th  day   of  this  instant 
August. 

Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Pawning 

Second  Reading   of  the  Pawning 
Tools  B i l l;  
& 

8 

Industrial 

i 0° l a B l lL 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

And   it  being  after  half-past  Eleven   of 
the clock  on  Monday evening,  Mr. Deputy 

Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without 
Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing 
Order,  it  being  then  six  minutes  before.  

Six  of  the  clock  on  Tuesday  morning,  till  

this  day.  


[No.  115.] 

Tuesday, 1 Oth  August  1909. 
The  House  met  at  a  quarter of  an  hour  

before  Three   of  the  clock.  


Plumage

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

P R A Y E R S. 

o n S " ' 5 11
Exchange of)
(No. 2)  Bill.

  Second  Reading  of  the  Plumage  (Prohibition   of 

  Sale  or  Exchange  o f)  (No.   2 )  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Factory and 
Workshop 
Act  (1901) 
Amendment 
(No. 2)  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Factory  and  Workshop 
A ct  (1901)  Amendment  (No.   2)  Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  17th  day   of  this  instant 
August. 

Death 
Certificates 
(Charges) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Death  Certificates 

Second  Reading   of 
(Charges)  Bill.; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Ambulances 
(Metropolis) 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Metro­

Second  Reading   of  the  Ambulances 
polis)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

Cheap Trains 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading   of  the  Cheap  Trains  B i l l; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

Public  Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights)  Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading   of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Dogs'  Protection  Bill; 

ORDERED, 

Railway  Bill  [Lords'],  _  as  amended 

the  North  Eastern   North  Eastern 
in^ailwayBm 

That 

the  Committee,  be  taken 
to-morrow. 

into  considerationL  J°r 

The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera- Risca  Urban  


tion  the  Risca  Urban  District  Council  Bill  
[Lords],  as amended  in the  Committee. 

B m 

[Lords.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time. 

The  House  proceeded   to  take  into  considera-  Torquay and 

tion  the  Torquay  and  Paignton  Tramways  Bill   £aignton 
[Lords],  as amended  in  the  Committee. 

Bill  [Lords,] 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time. 

Ordered,  That 

in  the  case  of  the  Dunoon  Dunoon  Burgh 

Burgh  Bill  [Lords]  the  Order   of  the  House  of  BiU 
the  8th day of  March  last, That  all Private  Bills 
promoted  by  municipal  and  other  local  autho­
rities  by  which  it  is  proposed  to  create  powers 
relating  to  police,  sanitary,  or  other 
local 
government  regulations  in  conflict  with,  devia­
tion  from,  or  excess  of  the  provisions  of  the 
general  Law  shall  be  committed  to  the  Local 
Legislation  Committee,  be  suspended. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  referred  to  the  


Committee  on  Unopposed  Bills.—(The  Chair­
man of  Ways  and  Means.)  


Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and   Public 

read  ;  and  ordered  to lie  upon  the  Table. 

'

r

Petitions. 
Vide Fourth 

Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Paper  relative  to  Per-Permanent 

manent  Charges  Commutation,  which  was  Charges 
presented  upon  the  9th  day  of  this 
August, be  printed. 

instant Commntatwi1­
No.  253. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a second  time 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  His  Trade Reports 

this  day. 

Wild  Birds 
Protection 
BiU. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Wild  BSirds  Protection! 
Bill; 

Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic  and 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4321  
and  4322. 

e n e s^ 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the  


Table. 


 
 
 
 












 
Local

B o a r d n m en
(Ireland.)

Education 
(Scotland.) 

Lunacy. 

No. 115.]  9  EDW.  V I I. 

1 Oth August. 

369 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  to- Salmon, 

Command, —  Copy   of  Annual  Report   of  the 
Local  Government  Board  for  Ireland  for  the 
year  ended  31st  March  1909. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

morrow,  the  Salmon,  Trout,  and  River  Tweed  
Fisheries  Bill  was  read,  and  discharged. 

d 

Fisheries  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  

upon  Wednesday  the  18th  day  of  this  instant  

August. 


The  Lord  Advocate  presented,   by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Minute  of  the 
Committee  of  Council  on  Education  in  Scot­
land,  dated  10th  August  1909,  altering  the 
constitution  of  the  Committees  on  Secondary 
Education 
in  Scotland 
appointed  by  the  Minute  of  10th  June  1897, 
and  abrogating  the  other  provisions   of  that 
Minute. 

for  various  districts 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant   to  the  direc­
tions  of  an A ct   of  Parliament,  was laid  upon  the 
Table   by  the  Clerk  of  the  House  :—Copy   of 
Return  to  the  Lord  Chancellor   of  the  number 
of  visits  made  and  the  number  of  patients  seen 
by  the  several  Commissioners  in  Lunacy  during 
the  six  months  ending  on  the  30th  June  1909. 

Cottage  Homes
for  Aged
Persons BUI.

Ordered,  That  the  Cottage  Homes  for  Aged 
Persons  Bill  be  read  a second  time upon  Monday 
^ 

2 3 rd  d ay   o f  t h ig  i n g t a nt   August. 

Customs and
Inland
fstamp6
Duties, &c.]

A  Motion  being  made,  That  this  House  will, 
to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to 
consider  of  authorising  the  non  -  payment  of 
  drawback  on  certain  kinds  of  tobacco,  and  the 
abolition  of  certain  limitations  and  exemptions 
under  the  Stamp  Act,  1891,  the  Income  Tax 
Act,  1842, the Revenue  Act,  1889, and  the  Tithe 
Rent-charge  (Rates)  Act,  1899,   in  pursuance  of 
any  A ct   of  the  present  Session  to  amend  the 
Law  relating   to  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue, 
and for  other  purposes  connected  with  Finance 
—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease) ; 

Secretary  of 
the  Board of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries 
[Salary.] 

Shrewsbury 
Corporation 
Bill  {Lords.] 

Mr.  M'Kenna,   by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted  the  House  that  His  Majesty,  having 
been  informed  of  the  subject-matter  of  this 
Motion,  recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of 
the  House. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

A  Motion  being  made,  That  this  House  will, 
to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee   to 
consider  of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of 
moneys provided  by  Parliament, of  the  salary  of 
a  second  Secretary,  in  pursuance  of  any  Act   of 
the  present Session  to  enable  a second  Secretary 
to  be  appointed  for  the  Board   of  Agriculture 
and  Fisheries—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease)  ; 

Mr.  M'Kenna,   by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted  the  House  that  His  Majesty,  having 
been  informed  of  the  subject-matter  of  this 
Motion,  recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of 
the  House. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

Mr.  Arthur  Stanley  reported  from  the  Com­
mittee  on  the  Shrewsbury  Corporation  Bill 
[ Lords];  That  they  had  examined  the  allega­
tions  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and 
verbally  amended  the  same, and  found  the  same, 
as  amended,  to be  true ;  and  had  gone  through 
the  Bill  and  made  Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

VOL.  164. 

The  House, according   to Order,  resolved itself   Finance  Bill, 

into  a  Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  10  (Duty  on  site  value  of  unde­

veloped  land).  


Question  again  proposed,  That  the  Clause,  as  

amended,  stand  part  of  the  B i l l:  —  Debate  

arising; 


The  Prime  Minister  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That the  Question   be  now  put. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question   be  now  put.  Question put 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the fMr.  Joseph  Pease, 

of  Debate-)

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Vooo  
J 

Tellers  for  the) Viscount  Valentia, 

l  .  


Noes, 

(.Lord  Edmund  Talbot :  /
 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause,  as 

amended,  stand  part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for  the/ Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
(Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

223. 

Tellers  for  the/Viscount  Valentia, 

I  i iq 
( L o rd  Edmund  Talbot:  J ' i i y-

Noes, 

Clause  No.  11  (Exemptions  from  undeveloped 

land  duty,  and  allowances). 

Amendment  proposed, in  p.  9,  1. 13, after  the 

first  word  "  of,"   to  insert  the  words  "  agri­
cultural  land  or."—(Mr.  Chaplin.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words   be  there 

inserted  :—Debate  arising  ; 

Mr.  Attorney  General  rose   in  his  place  and  Closure 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question   be  now  claimed,  but 
put;  but  the  Chairman  withheld  his  assent,  and 
declined then to  put that Question,  as  he  thought  assent, and 
that  the  Committee  was  prepared  almost  iin- gives a Reason, 
mediately  to  come  to  a  decision  without  that 
Motion  :—Debate  resumed. 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the/Viscount  Valentia, 
(Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the [ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

I Captain  Norton: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,  1.  14, 
to leave  out  the  word  "  fifty,"  in  order  to  insert 
the  words  "  one  hundred."  —  (Sir  Francis 
Channing.) 

}1 1 0. 

)  ^ 
J 

210. 

Question  put,  That  the  word  " f i f t y  "  stand 

part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
I Captain  Norton  :  


Yeas, 

Tellers  for the/Sir  Francis  Channing, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Everett: 

} 190. 

)  ,  .  

j  

D' 

Mr.  Attorney  General  claimed   to  move,  That 
in  respect  of  the  words  of  the  Clause  to  the 
word  "  agricultural,"  in  p.  9,  1. 15, the  Chair  be 
empowered  to  select  the  Amendments  to  be 
proposed. 

Question  put,  That  in  respect  of  the  words  chair 

of  the  Clause  to  the  word  "agricultural,"  in  empowered 
p.  9,  1.  15,  the  Chair  be  empowered  to  select Amendments 
the  Amendments  to  be  proposed. 

3  B 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
­


lOth—llth  August.  


The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

LCaptain  Norton: 

Tellers  for the/Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

I Lord  Edmund  Talbot:  / 

}201. 
|  96, 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  9,  1. 14, 
at  the  end,  to  insert  the words  "  and in respect 
of  land  the  site  value of  which  exceeds  fifty
pounds  per  acre, undeveloped  land  duty  shall  be 
charged  only upon  such portion  of  the  site  value 
as exceeds fifty pounds  per  acre."—(Mr.  Chiozza 
Money.) 

Question,  That  those  words  be there  inserted, 

put,  and  negatived. 

To  report  Progress, and ask leave to  sit again. 

. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Adjournment. 

Resolved, That  this House  do  now  adjourn.-— 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to sit till  eighteen  minutes  before 
Twelve  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  to­
morrow. 

[No.  116.] 

Wednesday, 11 th August 1909. 

The  House  met  at  a quarter  of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

Copy  of  Fifty-fifth  Report  of  the  Postmaster  Post Office. 

General  on  the Post  Office. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the  County 
directions  of  an  Act   of  Parliament,—Account  Officers and 
of  Receipts  and  Payments  under  the  County  ^ e i a n d)  Act, 
Officers  and  Courts  (Ireland)  Act,  1877, during 1877. 
the  year  ended  31st  March  1909. 

No. 254. 

Ordered, That  the  said Papers  do  lie  upon  the  

Table;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  County  

Officers  and  Courts  (Ireland)  Act,  1877,  be  

printed. 


Ordered, That  there be laid  before  this  House  Finance  Bill, 
a  Copy  of  Clauses  16,  17,  18, 22,  and  23 of  the  No. 255. 
Finance  Bill,  as proposed  to  be  amended.—(Mr. 
Hobhouse.) 

Mr.  Hobhouse  accordingly  presented  the  said 

Paper. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table;  and  be  printed.  


Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-  County  Courts 

m

sented  to His  Majesty, that He will be graciously  ( f a i n ts  and 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid  1
before  this  House  Returns  from  every  County 
Court  in  England  and  Wales  of  the  total 
number  of  Plaints,  &c.  entered  in  each  Court 
from  the  1st  day  of  January  to  the  31st  day 
of  December  1908,  both  days  inclusive,  dis­
tinguishing  those  not  exceeding  £20, those above 
£20  and  not  exceeding  £50,  those  above  £50 
and not exceeding  £100, and  those by  agreement 
And   of  the  Sittings  of  the 
over  £ 1 0 0: 
County  Courts  in  England  and  Wales  holden  

before  the  Judges  of  such  Courts  in  the  year  

1908  (in  continuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper,  

No.  283  of  Session  1908).—(Mr.  Masterman.)  


The  House, according to  Order, resolved itself  Finance 
into  a Committee  on  Finance  ["Expenses"]  (Con-  [Expenses] 
solidated  Fund). 

(Consolidated 
Fund.) 

North  Eastern  T ^ HE  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for talcing 
Railway  Bill  J_  
[Lords.~] 
t 

i n t 0  consideration  the  North  Eastern  Rail­
w a  y  Bill  [Lords'], as amended  in the  Committee; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Friday  next. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fourth 
Report. 
Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read ;  and ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

' 

# 

. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey presented, by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic  and 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos. 4323  and 
4324. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Irish  Land 
Mr.Birrell  presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com-
Commission.  m a nd,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Irish  Land 
Commissioners  for  the  year  ending  31st  March 
1909. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  it  is 
expedient  to  authorise  the  payment,  out  of 
moneys provided  by Parliament,  of  any  expenses 
or remuneration  payable  in  connection  with any 
valuation  of  land  or  premises  for  the  purposes 
of  any  duty  charged  under  any  Act  of  the 
present  Session relating to Finance.—(The  Prime 
Minister.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
[ Captain  Norton:  


Yeas, 

Tellers  for the 
Noes, 

Sir  Alexander  Acland-


Hood, 

Mr.  Henry  Forster:  


Resolution  to be  reported.  


J  217. 

96. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the Committee  had  come  to  a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

Mr.  Runciman presented,  by  His  Majesty's 

The  House, according to  Order,  resolved itself  Finance  Bill, 

Board  of 
Education 
(Special 
Reports.) 

Command,—Copy  of  Special  Reports  on  Educa­
tional  Subjects.  Vol.  23.  Education in  Russia. 
Ordered,, That the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Meteorological  Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Committee.  Command, —  Copy  of  Fourth  Annual  Report 
of  the  Meteorological  Committee  to  the  Lords 
Commissioners  of  His  Majesty's  Treasury,  for 
the  year  ending  31st  March  1909. 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  11  (Exemptions  from  undeveloped 

land  duty,  and  allowances). 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,1.  15, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "agricultural."—(Mr, 
James  Hope.) 

Question  put,  That  the  word  "  agricultural" 

stand part  of  the  Clause. 



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Hth-±12th  August.

371 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  J Mr .Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton  : 

Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Lane-Fox, 

Noes, 

j  Mr.  Renton : 

2 1 7. 

92. 

Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,1,  18, 
at the  end, to  insert the  words  "  and  in  the case 
of  any  land  hired  compulsorily  by  a  county 
council,  or  by  the council  of  any  borough,  urban 
district,  or  parish,  under  the  powers  conferred 
by  the  Small  Holdings  and  Allotments  Act, 
1907, undeveloped land duty shall not be charged 
during  the  continuance  of  the  term  for  which 
such  land  shall  have  been  hired."—(Mr.  Lane-
Fox.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Lane-Fox, 
( Mr.  Younger : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton ; 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  9,  1. 18, 

at  the end,  to  insert  the  words— 

"  (3)  Undeveloped 

land  duty  shall  not  be 
charged  in  respect  of  land  acquired  for  the 
extension  or  improvement  of  manufactories  or 
other industrial  works."—(Mr.  Renwick.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,1.  18, 

at the  end, to  insert  the  words — 

"  (3)  Undeveloped 

land  duty  shall  not  be 
charged  in  respect  of  any  land  proved  to  be 
reasonably required  for the extension or improve­
ment  of  manufactories  or  industrial  works, and 
in the  same ownership."—-( Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be there 

inserted:—Debate  arising ; 

Mr.  Attorney  General  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed to  move,  That  the  Question  be now  put. 
Question  put,  That  the  Question  be  now  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

) 
j 
Tellers for  the  ( Lord  Edmund  Talbot,  ) 
j 

( Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

( Captain  Norton: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

193. 

66. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  those  words 

be there  inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Renwick, 

Yeas, 

( Sir  John Randies : 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

( Captain  Norton : 

68. 

197. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,1.  20, 

after the  word  " any,"  to insert the words  "  com­
mon  as defined  by  the  Inclosure  Acts,  1845  to 
1899, or  on  the  site  value of  any."—(Mr.  Cave.) 
Question  proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted  :—Debate  arising  ; 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed to  move, That  the  Question be  now  put. 
Question  put,  That the  Question be  now  put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the I Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers  for ^J^lexander 
Hood, 

lyr 
noes, 

(Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Acland­

220. 

96. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  those  words 

be  there  inserted. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Cave, 

( 
( Mr.  Leverton Harris  :  ) 

Yeas, 

95. 

Tellers for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton : 

Noes, 

)  219. 
j 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,  1. 20, 
to  leave  out from the word  "  spaces "  to the word 
"  contributing,"  in  p.  9,1.  25,  in  order  to  insert 
the  words  "public  or  private."—(Mr.  Leverton 
Harris.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  which  " 

stand part  of  the  Clause : 

Thursday,  12th August  1909 : 

Question  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Captain  Norton : 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Leverton  Harris, 

J  192. 

78. 

204. 

|  101. 

Noes, 

1 Mr.  Cave: 
Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  9,  1. 21, 
after  the word  "  open,"  to insert  the words  "  or 
offered  to  bo  open  on  reasonable  terms  as  to 
superintendence  and  damage  and  reasonable 
hours."—-(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

"Question proposed,  That  those  words  be  there  


inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn.  


Another  Amendment  made.  

Another  Aniendment  proposed, in  p.  9,1.  23, 
to  leave  out the  words  "  granted  to," in  order  to 
insert  the words  "  enjoyed  by."—(Mr.  Secretary 
Haldane.) 

Question,  That  the words  proposed  to  be  left 
out  stand  part of  the  Clause, put, and  negatived. 
Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted: 

Amendment proposed  to the proposed  Amend-? 
ment,  after  the  word  "enjoyed,"  to  insert  the 
words  "  or  offered  to  be  enjoyed  on  reasonable 
terms  as  to  superintendence  and  damage  and 
reasonable hours."—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question,  That  those  words  be  there  inserted 
in the  proposed  Amendment, put, and  negatived. 

Proposed  words  there  inserted. 
Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,  1. 23, 
to leave out from  after the  words  last inserted  to 
the word  "  or,"  in  1. 25 — (Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  where  " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause : —  Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  9,  1. 24, 
after  the  word  "  public,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  equivalent to the amount of the  duty remitted." 
—(Mr.  Wedgwood.) 

Question,  That  those  words  be there  inserted, 

put, and  negatived. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  9,1.  24, 
to  leave  out  the  words  " as  contributing,"   in 
order  to  insert  the  words  "  or  contributes."— 
(Mr.  Clyde.) 

Question  put, That  the  words proposed  to  be 

left out  stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

)
) 
Tellers  for  the  ( Lord  Edmund Talbot,  1 
j 

( Captain  Norton: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Pike  Pease: 
Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Chairman  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave 
to  sit again—(Mr.  Pretyman):—Debate  arising; 

166. 

7 4. 

3  B  2 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

 
3 72 	

11th—12 th  August. 

1909. 

[No. 116. 

Closure 
claimed, but 
Chairman 
withholds 
his assent. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed to move, That the  Question  be now  put; 
but  the  Chairman  withheld  his  assent,  and 
declined  then  to  put  that  Question  -.—Debate 
resumed. 

Question  again  proposed,  That  those words be 

there  inserted: 

Whereupon  Mr. Attorney  General  rose  in his 
place  and  claimed  to move,  That  the  Question 
be  now  put. 

Question put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.") 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now put. 
Question  put,  That  the  Question be  now  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

169. 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the 
Noes, 

Sir  Alexander Acland-  ) 

Hood, 

Mr.  Henry  Forster : 

I  70. 
) 

Question  put accordingly,  That  the  Chairman 

do  report  Progress,  and  ask leave to  sit again. 

1 
) 
j 

170. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Lord  Edmund Talbot, 1  70. 
( Mr.  Pike Pease : 
Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton: 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 9,1.  25, 
after the word "  locality," to insert the words "  or 
(c)  On the  site  value  of	  any land  where it  is 
shown  to  the  Commissioners  that  the land 
is being  kept  free of buildings  in  pursuance 
of  any  definite  scheme,  whether  framed 
before or  after the  passing of  this  Act,  for 
the  development  of  the  area  of  which  the 
land  forms  part,  and  that  it  is  reasonably 
necessary, in  the  interests  of  the  public, or 
in  view  of the character  of  the surroundings 
or  neighbourhood, that  the  land  should  be 
so kept free from  buildings." 

— (Mr.  Attorney  General.) 

Question  proposed,  That those  words be  there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed to the proposed  Amend­
ment, after  the  word  "  land,"  in  1. 2, to  insert 
the  words  "which  is  under  restrictions  in  the 
title, either  of the  land  in  question  or  of  adjoin­
ing  land,  securing  that  the  same  shall  remain 
as  an  open  space  and  unbuilt  upon,  or  on the 
site value of any land."—(Mr. Clyde.)

Question  proposed, That  those words  be  there 

inserted  in the proposed  Amendment:—Amend­
ment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed  to  the  pro­
posed Amendment, in  1. 2, to  leave  out the words 
" it   is shown  to  the  Commissioners  that."—(Mr. 
Joynson-Hicks.)

Question  proposed,  That  the words  proposed 

to  be left out stand  part of the proposed  Amend­
ment :—Amendment to the proposed Amendment, 
by leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed  to  the  pro­
posed  Amendment,  in  1.  3,  to  leave  out  from 
the  first  word  "  o f  "  to  the  first  word  "  of,"  in 
1. 5.—(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks.)

Question proposed, That the word " buildings  " 
stand  part  of  the  proposed  Amendment  :— 
Amendment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by 
leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed  to  the  pro­
posed  Amendment, after  the  word  "  buildings," 
to  insert  the  words "  or of  certain  descriptions  of 
buildings."—(Mr.  James  Hope.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  in the proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 
,, 

( Mr. James Hope, 

1 ellcrs for the  L o rd  m i h u g f c y   d e 

' 

(  Eresby: 

Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

I Captain  Norton : 

59. 

146. 

Question  put, That  the  Question  be  now  put.  Question  put 
aa^fosure 
The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
ICaptain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  t h e / S i r z / Z < u '
H° 0 a>

Noes 
' 

1	
[Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

a n r f er  A c l a n d -

ug 

of Debate.) 

J 

  \ 
r
J 

58. 

Question,  That  those  words be  there  inserted, 

put  accordingly,  and agreed  to. 

Mr.  Chancellor of  the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question, 
That the  words of the  Clause  to the end of p.  9, 
1. 33, stand  part of the  Clause, be  now  put. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the  Question, That 

words  of  the  Clause  to  the  end  of  p.  9,  1. 33,  words of  the 
stand  part  of  the  Clause,  be  now put. 

part of  the 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Clause, put 
(pursuant  to 
1  . . 9  s.o. closure 
of  Debate-> 
j 

Tellers for  the  ( Lord  Edmund Talbot, )  58. 

Noes, 

|  Mr.  Pike  Pease: 

j

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words  of 
the  Clause to  the  end  of  p.  9,  1.  33,  stand  part 
of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
Tellers for 
Noes 
' 

(Captain  Norton: 

Alexander  Acland­

] 
(Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

'	 

,
J 

\ 
1 

144. 

57. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Chairman  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave 
to  sit  again  —  (Mr.  James  Hope)  : —  Debate 
arising; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question 
be now  put. 

Question  put, That  the  Question be now  put.  Question  put 
aaciosurc 
The  Committee  divided. " 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Debate.) 

Yeas, 

ICaptain  Norton: 

\  . . . 
144. 
f 
Tellers for the/ Lord  Edmund Talbot,  \ 
J 

t Mr.  Pike  Pease : 
Question  put accordingly,  That  the  Chairman  


Noes, 

55. 

do report  Progress,  and ask leave  to sit again. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the/Mr.  James Hope, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Leverton Harris ; 


Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

(Captain  Norton: 
Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  claimed  to 
move, That  in respect of  the words of  the Clause 
to  the  end thereof  the  Chair  be  empowered  to 
select  the Amendments  to  be  proposed. 

\ 144. 
J 

55. 

Question  put, That  in respect  of  the  words  of  Chair 

the  Clause  to  the  end  thereof  the  Chair  be empowered 
empowered  to  select  the  Amendments  to  be  Amendments, 
proposed. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

T  11 
f 
I ellers  tor tnel 
e s  ' 

(-1,  f Sir Alexander  Acland-

H o q  ^ 

(Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

142. 

54. 

J 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  9,  1. 35, 
to leave  out  the  words  "  not  exceeding  an  acre 
in  extent."—(Mr.  Younger.) 

 








	
No. 116.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

llth—12  th  August 

373 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :  — 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,1.  36, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  duty  "   to  the  end 
of  the subsection, in order to insert the words  "  or 
on  the  site  value  of  any  land  being  gardens  or 
pleasure  grounds occupied  with  a dwelling-house 
which  do  not  exceed  five  acres  in  extent,  when 
the  site  value  of  the  gardens  and  pleasure 
grounds  together  with  the  site  value   of  the 
dwelling-house  does  not  exceed  twenty times  the 
annual  value  of  the  gardens,  pleasure  grounds, 
and  dwelling-house  as  adopted  for  the  purpose 
of  income  tax  under  Schedule  A ."  —  (Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  "  and  where  " 

stand  part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the/Mr.  Walsh, 

Yeas, 

(.Mr.  Summerbell:  

Tellers  for  the ("Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

(Captain  Norton  : 

} 29. 

]  156. 

Proposed  words  inserted. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  9,  1. 36, 
after the  word  "  duty,"  to insert  the  words  " n or 
upon  land  used  or  enjoyed  by  the  occupiers  of  a 
number  of  dwelling-houses  by  virtue  of  such 
occupancy,  where  the  total  number  of  acres  of 
such  land  does  not  exceed 
the  number  of 
occupiers  so using  such land."—-(Mr.  Lane-Fox.) 
Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  ;—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  10,  1. 9, 

at the  end, to  add  the  words— 

"  (6)  Where  the  owner   in  possession  of  the 

reason  of  his 

rents  and  profits  of  any  land  on  which  un­
developed  land  duty  is  assessed,  before 
the 
amount  so  assessed  in  any  financial  year  is  paid, 
produces  to  the  Commissioners  a certifi<5kte from 
the  surveyor  of  taxes  that  such  owner  has  been 
allowed  in  that  year  a  total  exemption  from 
income  tax  by 
income  not 
exceeding  one  hundred  and.  sixty  pounds,  the 
said  amount  of  undeveloped  land  duty  shall  not 
be  collected  ;  and if  such  owner  produces  to  the 
Commissioners  a certificate from the  surveyor  of 
taxes  that  such  owner  has  been  allowed  in' that 
year  an  abatement  of  income  tax  by  reason  of 
his  income  not  exceeding  four  hundred  pounds, 
one-half  of  the  said  amount  of  undeveloped  land 
duty  shall not  be  collected."—(Mr.  Beck.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

added :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  10,  1. 9, 

at  the  end, to  add  the  words— 

"  (6)  Undeveloped  land  duty  shall  not   be 
charged  in  respect  of  any  land  which  has  been 
reclaimed  by  the  owner  or  his  predecessors  in 
title from  the  sea  within  fifty  years  prior  to  the 
passing  of  this Act,  or which  shall  hereafter  be 
so  reclaimed."—(Mr.  Leverton  Harris.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

added  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause,  as amended,  agreed  to. 
To  report  Progress, and ask  leave  to  sit  again. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That; 
the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the  Bill;; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may  have  leave to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day,; 

again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

VOL.   164. 

Resolved, That  this  House  do  now  adjourn.—  Adjournment. 

(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  eighteen  minutes  after 
Six  of  the  clock  on  Thursday  morning, 
adjourned  till  this  day. 

[No.  117.]  

Thursday, 12th August 1909. 


The  House  met  at  a quarter  of  an  ho«? 

before  Three   of  the  clock.  


P R A T E R S. 

o tion  Bill  [Lords]  be  recommitted  to  the  Corporation 

RDERED,  That  the  Shrewsbury  Corpora-  Shrewsbury 

former  Committee. 

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Ordered,  That  Standing  Orders  236  and  237  

be  suspended,  and  that  the  Committee  have 
leave  to  sit  and  proceed  forthwith.  —  (The  

Deputy  Chairman.)  


Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Loss of  Life  


Command,—Copy  of  Return  showing  the  Lives  at  Sea-

lost  by  wreck,  drowning,  or  other  accident  in  

British  sea-going  Merchant  Ships  registered  in  

the  United  Kingdom  during  the  years  1891  to  

1908,  inclusive.  


Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


The  Lord  Advocate  presented,   by  His  Education  

Majesty's  Command,-Copy   of  Minute  of  the  (Scotland.)  

Committee  of  Council  on Education  in  Scotland,  

dated  12th  August  1909,  providing  for  the 
recognition  of  certain  institutions  as  central  

institutions  for  the  purpose  of  the  Education  

(Scotland)  Act,  1908.  


Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Colonial  

( T he  Reports  


Command,—Copy   of  Report  No.  608. 
Surveys of British Africa, Ceylon, the Federated  <AnnuaI->  

Malay  States,  Jamaica,  Trinidad,  British  Hon­
duras,  and  Fiji.  The  Annual  Report   of  the  

Colonial  Survey  Committee,  Fourth  Year,   to  

31st  March  1909.)  


Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 


Table. 


Ordered,  That  there  be  laid before  this  House  Imperial  

a  Copy  of Report  of  the  Sub-Committee  of  the  ^fcnce  

Committee  of  Imperial  Defence  to  inquire  into p0Ucy.) 

certain  questions  of  Naval  Policy  raised  by  

Lord  Charles  Beresford.—(Mr.  Hobhouse.)  


The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the   Marriages 

Committee  on  the  Marriages  Provisional  Order 
(No.   2)  Bill;  That  they  had  considered  the  ML 
Order  therein  contained;  that  the  said  Order  [Provisional 
ought  to  be  confirmed  ;  and  that  they  had ^nimed 1 
directed  him  to report  the  Bill,  without  Amend­
ment,  to  the  House. 

  o u  r me   -J 

} 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill   be  read  the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the   Tramways 
Committee  on  the  Tramways  Orders  Confirma- Confirmation 
tion  Bill  [Lords];  That  they  had  considered Bin 
the  Orders  therein  contained;  that  the  said  [Provisional 
Orders ought to be confirmed;  and that they had ^firmed i 

3  B  3 





12 th  August.  	

1909. 

[JSo.llt* 

directed  him  to  report  the  Bill,  with  Amend­
ments, to  the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Committee,  be 
morrow. 

taken 

into  consideration 

to­

The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the 
Electric 
Lighting 
Committee  on  the Electric  Lighting  Provisional 
Provisional 
Orders  (No.   1)  Bill  [Lords];  That  they  had 
Orders  (No.  1) 
Bill  [Lords.]  considered  the  Orders  therein  contained;  that 
[Provisional 	
the  said  Orders  ought  to  be  confirmed  ;  and that 
Orders 
they  had  directed  him  to  report  the  Bill,  with 
confirmed.] 
Amendments,  to  the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Committee,  be  taken 
morrow. 

into  consideration 

to­

Dunoon  Burgh  The  Deputy  Chairman  reported  from  the 
Bill  [Lords.-]  Committee  on  the  Dunoon  Burgh  Bill  [Lords] ; 
That  they  had  examined  the  allegations  con­
tained in  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and  amended 
the  same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent  with  the 
provisions  of  the  Bill  as  passed  by  the  Com­
mittee,  and  found  the  same,  as  amended,  to  be 
true  ;  and  had  gone  through  the  Bill  and  made 
Amendments  thereunto.  , 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and be  printed. 

Asylums 
Officers' 
Superannua­
tion  Bill.  	

Special 
Keport. 

No. 257. 

Bill 299. 

Mr.  John Henderson  reported  from  the  Select 
Committee  on the Asylums  Officers' Superannua-
tion  Bill;  That  they  had  considered  the  said 
Bill,  and  had  taken  Evidence  thereon,  which 
they  had  agreed  to  report  to  the  House;  and 
had  gone  through  the  Bill  and  made  Amend­
ments  thereunto. 

Mr.  John  Henderson  further  reported  from 
the  Select  Committee  ;  That  they  had  agreed 
to  a  Special  Report,  which  they  directed  him   to 
make to  the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  and Special  Report 

do  lie  upon  the  Table;  and  be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Select  Committee,  be  recommitted  to  a  Com­
mittee  of  the  whole  House  for  to-morrow  ;  and 
be  printed. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee   of 
Selection 
(Standing 
Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the  fol-
Committees.) 
lowing  Members from  Standing  Committee  A  (in 
Standing 

Committee A.  respect  of  the  Metropolitan  Ambulances  B i l l ):  

Metropolitan 	 —  Mr.  Barran,  Mr.  Cecil  Harmsworth,  Dr. 
Ambulances  Rutherford,	  Dr.  Rainy,  Mr.  George  Hardy,  Mr. 
Bill. 
Joyce,  Mr.  Devlin,  Mr.  O'Shaughnessy,  and  Mr. 
George  Thome;  and  had  appointed  in  substitu­
tion  (in respect of  the  said Bill)  :  Mr.  Horniman, 
Mr.  Ainsworth,  Mr.  Morton,  Mr.  George  Faber, 
Mr.  M'Callum,  Mr.  Cullinan,  Mr.  Hazleton, 
Mr.  Nolan,  and  Mr.  Whitwell  Wilson. 

Mr,  Fenioick  further  reported  from  the  Com-
Standing 
Committee  A.  mittee ;  That  they  had  added  the  following 
Metropolitan 
Ambulances 	 Member  to  Standing  Committee  A  (in  respect 
of  the  Metropolitan  Ambulances  Bill):—Mr. 
Bill. 
Sears. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Arthur  Stanley reported  from  the  Com-
Shrewsbury 
Corporation  mittee  on  the  Shrews jury  Corporation  (recom-
Bill  [Lords.] 
[Lords' 
That  they  had  made 

mitted)  Bill 
further  Amendments  thereunto. 

Mr.  Arthur  Stanley  reported 

from 

the   Glasgow 

Committee  on  the  Glasgow  Corporation  Bill  ^^P 0™^-, 
[.Lords]  ;  That  they  had  examined  the  allega­
tions  contained  in the  Preamble  of  the  Bill,  and 
amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it  consistent 
with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as  passed  by 
the  Committee,  and  found  the same,  as  amended, 
to  be  true ;  and  had  gone  through  the  Bill  and 
made  Amendments  thereunto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Arthur  Stanley  reported  from  the  Com-   Gas and Water 

mittee  on 
the  Gas  and  Water  Orders  Con- 3 ^ s m a t i on 
firmation  Bill  [Lords]  ;  That they had considered  Bill  [Lords.]
the  Orders  therein  contained;  that  the  said  [Provisional 
Orders  ought to be  confirmed  ;  and that they had  ^ f e n ed -i 
directed  him  to  report  the  Bill,  with  Amend- 0 0 
ments, to  the  House. 

1 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Committee,  be  taken 
morrow. 

into  consideration 

to­

Mr.  Luttrell,  supported   by  Mr.  Hazleton,  Mr.   Punishment of 
®ilL 

Swift  MacNeill,  and  Mr.  Byles,  presented  a  Bill 
to  mitigate  the  Law  with  regard   to  the  Punish-  B l l  i  3 0 0  , 
ment  of  Offenders,  and 
for  other  purposes 
connected therewith  :  And  the  same  was  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Thursday  next; 
and  to  be  printed. 

Mr.  Luttrell,  supported   by  Mr.  Hazleton,  Mr.   Payment of 
Hart-Davies,  Mr.  Swift  MacNeill,  and  Mr. Byles,  Fines> &c- Bm­
presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  with  regard  B'h  301. 
to  the  payment  of  Fines,  Damages,  and  Costs, 
and  to  Imprisonment  in  default  of  payment 
thereof,  and  for  other  purposes  connected  there­
with :  And  the  same  was  ordered   to  be  read  a 
second  time  upon  Thursday  next;  and   to  be 
printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  receiving   Finance 
the  Report  from  the  Committee   on  Finance  [Expenses] 
[Expenses]  (Consolidated  F u n d ); 

fcl. 0)^^ 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   be  received  upon 

Tuesday  next. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  resolved itself  Finance  Bill, 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  12  (Mineral  rights  duty). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  10,  1. 11, to  leave 

out  the  word  "  capital."—(Mr.  Newdegate.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  capital  " 
stand part of the Clause  :—Amendment,  by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause  stand 

part of  the  Bill:—Debate  arising; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question 
be  now  put. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question  be  now  put.  Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
s.o.  Closure 
of  D e b a t e0

, 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

>  - -.  

. , 

152. 

Yeas, 

. 

m  „ 
Tellers  for  the  )  
•N°es> 

| Sir  Edward  Strachey: 
{ Sir Alexander  Acland-


H o o d> 

( Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Ordered,  That  the  Report   do  lie  upon  the 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause 

Table. 

stand  part  of  the  Bill. 



12 th  August. 

375 
the  recovery   of  arrears  shall  be  limited  to  three 
years."—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

No. 117.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Wedgwood, 
( Mr.  Hemmerde : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

( Sir Edward  Strachey: 

\ 15. 

1   1 
j 

Clause  No.  13  (Recovery  of  duty  on  unde­

veloped  land  and  mineral  rights). 

Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  10,  to 

leave  out  Is. 32  and  33.—(Mr.  George  Faber.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  " o r ,"   in  1. 32,  stand 
part of  the  Clause :—Debate  arising  j 

Closure
ohairman>"t
withholds his
assent.

Mr.  Attorney  General  rose  in  his  place  and 
t o  move,  That  the  Question  be now  put; 
^ e  Chairman  withheld  Ms  assent,  and 
declined  then  to  put  that  Question:—Debate 
resumed. 

Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  10,1.  33, 
after  the  word  "  contrary,"   to  insert  the  words 
"made  after  the  passing   of  this  Act."—(Mr. 
Lambton.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for  the  (  Mr.  Lambton, 

Yeas, 

(  Mr.  George  Faber  : 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

90. 

i 
j 
) £QQ 

Noes, 

( Sir  Edward  Strachey  :  ) 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  10,1.  33, 
after  the  word  "  contrary,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  but where  the land is  leased  or  let  on the  terms 
that  the  tenant  shall  develop  the  same or  occupy 
the  Same  within  the  meaning  of  this  Part  of  this 
A c t,  then  the  undeveloped  land  duty,   if  any, 
shall be  payable  by  the  tenant  until  such  period 
as the  owner  can  in  due  course  recover  posses­
sion."—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the j  Mr.   Watson Rutherford, 

Yeas, 

( Earl  Winterton : 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton  : 

Noes, 

87. 

198. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  10,1.  33, 
at  the  end,  to  insert  the  words  "   If  at  any  time 
undeveloped  land  duty  is  not  assessed  within 
the  year  for which  it  is  charged,  owing  to  there 
being  no  value  either  shown  in  the  provisional 
valuation  or  finally  settled  on  which  the  duty 
can  be  assessed,  or  for  any  other  reason,  the 
duty  may be  assessed  at  any  time,  and  shall  be 
payable  at  any  time  after  the  expiration   of  two 
months from the  date   of  the  assessment."—(Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  : 

Amendment  proposed  to  the  proposed  Amend­
ment,  in  1.4, to  leave  out  from the  word  "  duty  " 
to  the  end  thereof,  in  order  to  insert  the  words1 
"  for  that  year  shall  not   be  payable."-—(Mr. 
Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to  be  left  out  stand  part of  the  proposed  Amend­
ment:—Amendment to the proposed Amendment, 
by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment proposed to  the  proposed 
Amendment,  at  the  end, to  add  the  words  "  but1 

VOU  164. 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words   be  there  


added  to  the  proposed  Amendment:—Amend­
ment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by  leave,  

withdrawn. 


Proposed  Amendment  amended   by  adding  at  

the  end  thereof  the  words  "  so,  however,  that  

no  such  duty  shall  be  recoverable  more  than  

three  years  after  the  expiration   of  the  year  for  

which  it  is  payable."—(Mr.  Chancellor   of  the  

Exchequer.) 


Proposed  words,  as  amended,  there  inserted. 

Another  Amendment  made. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand  part  of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for  the  (  Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

( Sir  Edward  Strachey  .  |  179.  


Tellers  for  the  j  Mr.  George  Faber,  


Noes, 

{ Mr.  Rawlinson : 


Clause  No.  14  (Definition  of  total  Value  and  


site  value  of  land,  excluding  minerals).  


Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  11,1.  3,  after  the  

first  word  "  the,"  to  insert  the  word  "  net."—  

(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.)  


Question  put,  That  the  word  "  n e t"   be  there  


inserted. 


The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Watson Rutherford, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  James Hope  : 

54. 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

( Sir  Edward  Strachey J  182. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  11,  1. 4, 
after  , the  word  "  sold,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  subject  to  such  reasonable  conditions  of  sale 
and  restrictions 
(if  any)  as  the  Chancery 
Division  of  the  High  Court  would,   in  such  case, 
authorise  and  impose." —(Mr.  Watson  Ruther­
ford.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  11,  1. 4, 
to  leave  out  the  words "  in  the  open  market."— 
(Mr.  James  Hope.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out stand  part  of  the Clause  :—Debate 
arising; 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  rose  in  his  place  and  Closure 
claimed  to move, That  the  Question  be now  p u t;   claimed,  but 
but  the  Chairman  withheld  his  assent,  and  withhold"  his 
declined  then  to  put  that  Question :  —^ Debate  assent, 
resumed. 

Mr;  Secretary  Haldune  rose  in  his  place  and  Question  put 
claimed  to move,  That  the  Question  be  now  put.  (pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
Question  put,  That  the  Question   be  now  put.   o£  Debate.) 
The  Committee  divided; 

* 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Sir  Edward  Strachey : . 1 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Hunt, 

Noes, 

| Captain  Clive : 

197. 

91. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

)  .  „„  


Yeas, 

j  Sir  Edward  Strachey  :  j  


Tellers  for  the j  Lord  Robert  Cecil, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Mildmay: 
3  b  4  


l 
j


91. 


 
 
 
 
376 

VMh—13th  August. 

1909, 

[No. 117. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  claimed  to  move,  That 
in  respect  of  the  words  of  the  Clause to  the  end 
of  p.  11,1.  15, the  Chair  be  empowered  to  select 
the  Amendments  to  be  proposed. 

Chair 
empowered 
to select 
Amendments. 

Question  put,  That  in respect  of  the  words  of 
the  Clause  to  the end  of p. 11,1.15,  the  Chair be 
empowered  to  select  the  Amendments  to  be 
proposed. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 
„,  .. 
„ 
Tellers  for  the)  
JNoes, 

I Sir Edward  Strachey : 
fSir  Alexander  Acland-

H o o d  > 

[Mr.  Henry  Forster -. 

195. 

91. 

Friday,  13th  August  1909 : 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  11,1.  13, 
at  the  end,  to insert  the  words  "  Provided  that, 
in  the  option  of  the  owner,  the  original  site 
value  may  be  calculated by  deductions  from  the 
total  value  according  to  the  method  prescribed 
by  subsection  two  of  section  two of  this  Act  on 
the  occasion  of  the  increment  value  duty  be­
coming  payable, and  the  site value  so ascertained 
may be  substituted in  the  said  return  for  the  site 
value  calculated  according  to  the  provisions  of 
this  subsection.''—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words   be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 

,, 

- 
m 
Tellers  for  the)  
leas, 

f Sir Alexander  Acland- 1

H o  < 

{Mr.  Henry  Forster-. 

I  60. 
J 
") 
I Sir  Edward  Strachey  :  J 

123. 

Tellers  for  the/ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

An  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  11,  1. 16, 
after  the  word  "  land,"  to  insert  the  words  "  and 
subject  to  any  public  right  of  passage, User, or 
otherwise affecting the land, and  to  any statutory 
restriction  affecting  the  land or  limiting  the  user 
or  disposal  thereof,  whether  in  the  interests  of 
the  public  or  otherwise."—(Mr.  Clyde.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  11,1.  16, 
after  the  word  "  covenant,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  express or  implied."—(Mr 

.Salter.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words   be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for the  j  Mr.  Salter, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

{ M r.  Peel: 

)  _ 
f 
1 
1 Sir  Edward  Strachey.  j 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Other  Amendments  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  11,1.  18, 
to  leave  out  from  the  words  last  omitted  to 
the end  of  subsection  (3).—(Mr.  Salter.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  where  " 

stand  part  of  the  Clause  : 

To  report  Progress,  and  ask leave  to  sit  again. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the 
B i l l;  and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That 
the  Committee  may  have  leave to  sit  again. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning,  £? wn.
&C. Bill; 

Planning, &c. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Committee  on  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue 
[Stamp  Duties,  &c.] ; 

[stamp6 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, D u U e s- &c-l 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Secretary of 
B o a rd   o£ 

Committee  on  Secretary  of  the  Board  of  Agri­
culture  and  Fisheries  [Salary]  ; 

and Fisheries 

Resolved.  That  this  House  will,  this  day,  [SaIary-] 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Works 

Third Reading of  the  Public  Works  Loans Bill;   L o a ns  BiU-

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  the  third  time 

this  day. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  B i l l; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Child  Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial)  (TrriaP  ™ 
Bill  [Lords]; 

' 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 
®°®rdrof 
Fisheries 

Committee  on  the  Secretary  of  the  Board  of 
Agriculture  and  Fisheries  B i l l; 

ResolvedThat 

this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Committee  on  the  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue  ]-nland 
g j j  j  _ 

Revenue  Bill. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Assistant 
Committee  on the  A ssistant  Postmaster  General  Postmaster 
g - j  j  . 

General  Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Superannua­

Third  Reading   of  the  Superannuation  Bill;

t i on  Bil1­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

this  dav. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the   Election  of 
Second  Reading  of the  Election  of  Aldermen  in  Aldermen in 
Municipal  Boroughs  Bill;  

Boroughs  Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  Second  time 

again resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

upon  Monday  next. 

 
 
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377 

Check- 
varUm™2 
Industries BiU. Industries  Bill 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of  the  Checkweighing in various 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Special  Land 
Second  Reading  of  the  Special  Land  Tenures  Tenures Bill. 
Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Milk and 
Dairies  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Milk  and Dairies  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Settled  Land 

Second  Reading  of  the  Settled  Land  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Cinemato-
graph  Bill. 

The Order of the day being  read, for  resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  21st day  of  April  last,  That  the  Cine­
matograph  BiU be  now read  a second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

Bridgend 
BaptistEng'
Chapel, &c.)
Charity  Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  Beading  of  the  Bridgend  (Hope  English 

iSh  T h i rd
  Baptist  Chapel, &c.)  Charity  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the third time 

this  day. 

John 
Marshall's 
Charity  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Third Reading  of John  Marshall's  Charity  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read the third  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Lichfield  and 
Longdon 
Third  Reading  of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon 
Chapels and"131 Congregational  -Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust  Property  Charity  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  the  third  time 

this  day. 

Dewsbury 
Con 
Chapel 
Charities  Bill. 

retletionalThird 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
t h  e  Dewsbury  and  Batley 

R e a d i n  g   o f 

Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the third  time 

this  day. 

Wortley 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Chapel^*1 
Charity  Bill.  Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

Third  Reading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the third  time 

this day. 

Rule 
Committee 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Third  Reading  of  the Rule  Committee  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Coal Mines 
(Check- 
(Check­
w e i g h e r s;  Blll>  weighers)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 

into  consideration 

the  Coal  Mines 

Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Tuesday  next. 

Licensed 
Premises 
(Election 
Days)  Closing 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 

into  consideration  the  Licensed  Premises  (Elec­
tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the conveyancing 

Second  Reading  of the  Conveyancing  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Hours of 

Second  Reading  of  the  flours  of  Labour  (Sur- Labour 
facemen)  Bill ; 

^Surfacemen) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Pawning 
Second  Reading  of  the  Pawning  Industrial  Industrial 
Tools  Bill. 
Tools  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Sea Fisheries 

Second  Reading  of  the Sea  Fisheries  Regulation  Begulation 
(Scotland) 
(Scotland)  Bill  ; 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Death 

the  Death  Certificates  Certificates 

Second  Reading  of 
(Charges) Bill;  

(Charges)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

The Order of  the day being read, for resuming  Local 

the adjourned  Debate  on the  Question  proposed  Government 
upon  the  7th  day  of  May  last,  That  the  Local  ( E n g t nd  and 
Government  Qualification  (England  and Wales)  Wales)  Bill. 
Bill  be  now  read a second  time; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Tuesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Ambulances 
Second Reading of  the  Ambulances (Metropolis)  (Metropolis) 
Bill; 

. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day-  being  read, 
Second  Reading  of  the  Cheap  Trains  Bill; 

for  the   Cheap Trains 
Biu-

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a  second time 

this  day. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Public Health 

Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  A c t A ct  (1875) 
f w a t e r^ 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  Bights)  Bill, 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Dogs' 

Second  Reading  of the  Dogs'  Protection  Bill;  

Protection 

Ordered,•  That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

this day. 

Bishopric  of 
Sheffield Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield 
Bill,  as amended in the  Standing  Committee ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  wild  Birds 
Second  Reading  of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection  Protection 
Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

sideration  this day. 

VOL.  164. 

this  day. 

3  c 

3 78 	

12th—13th  August. 

1 9 0 9. 

[No. 118. 

Imperial 
Defence 
(Naval 
Policy.) 

N o.  256. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  —  Return  to  an 
Order,  dated  the  12th  day  of  this 
instant 
August,  for  a  Return  relative  to  Imperial 
Defence (Naval  Policy). 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Return  do  lie  upon 

the  Table  ;  and be  printed. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of  the 
clock  on  Thursday  evening,  Mr.  Deputy 
Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without 
Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing 
Order,  it  being  then  two  minutes before 
Two  of  the  clock  on  Friday  morning, 
till  this  day. 

[ N o.  1 1 8 .] 

Friday,  13th August  1909. 

Provisional  Orders  (No.  1)  Bill  	 [Lords],  as Orders (No.  1) 
amended  in  the  Committee. 

BUI  [Lords.]

J 

L 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Gas andWater 

take  into  consideration  the  Gras  and  Water  confirmation 
Orders  Confirmation  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  Bill [Lords.] 
in the  Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the third  time 

upon Monday  next. 

The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Tramways 
take  into  consideration  the  Tramways  Orders confirmation 
Confirmation  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  in  the Bill  [Lords.]
Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  House  met  at Twelve  of  the  clock. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and Public 

P R A Y E R S. 

Risca  Urban 
District 
Council  Bill 
[Lords.] 

THE  Risca  Urban  District  Council  Bill 

[.Lords] was read the  third time  and passed, 

with  Amendments. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath agreed  to  the  same, with  Amendments;  to 
which this  House  doth  desire  the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

Torquay and 
Paignton 
Tramways 
Bill  [Lords,] 

The  Torquay  and  Paignton  Tramways  Bill 
[Lords]  was read the third time  and passed, with 
Amendments. 

read;  and ordered to lie upon the  Table. 

vide  Fourth 
Report. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His  Mines  (Royal 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Second  Report  Commission.) 
of the  Royal  Commission  on  Mines ;  and  Copy 
of  Report  of  a  Committee  appointed  by  the 
Royal  Commission  to  inquire  into  the causes  of, 
and means  of  preventing,  Accidents  from falls of 
ground,  underground  haulage, and in shafts. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  also  presented,—  County  Courts 

Return  to  an Address  to  His  Majesty,  dated  the (Plain is and 
11th  day  of  this  instant  August,  for  Returns 
relative to County Courts (Plaints  and  Sittings). 

N o.  258. 

Sittings.) 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed  to  the  same, with  Amendments;  to 
which this  House  doth  desire  the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur- Polling 

Districts 
suant  to  the directions of  an  Act  of  Parliament, 
(County  of 
—Copies  of  Orders made by  the  Council  of  the  Lancaster.) 

County  of  Lancaster,  dividing  the  Gorton  and  

Stretford  Parliamentary  Divisions  into  Polling  

Districts. 


North Eastern 
Railway  Bill 
[Lords, j 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  North  Eastern  Railway 
Bill  [Lords],  as amended  in the  Committee; 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the  Polling 
County  of  Middlesex,  altering  certain  Polling  Districts 
Districts  in the  Ealing  Parliamentary  Division.  Middlesex.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do  lie upon  the 

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Table;  and that the said  Return  be  printed. 

Shrewsbury 
Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Marriages 
Provisional 
Order (No. 2) 
Bill. 

Electric 
Lighting 
Provisional 

Ordered, That  in  the  case  of  the  Shrewsbury 

Corporation  (recommitted)  Bill  [Lords]  Stand­
ing  Orders  84, 214,  215, and  239  be  suspended, 
and that the Bill  be now taken into consideration, 
provided  amended  prints  shall  have  been  pre­
viously  deposited. — (The  Chairman  of  Ways 
and  Means.) 

The  House  accordingly  proceeded  to  take  the 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Committee,  and  on 
recommittal,  into  consideration. 

Ordered, That  Standing  Orders  223  and 243 
be  suspended,  and  that  the  Bill  be  now  read 
the  third  time.—(The  Chairman  of  Ways  and 
Means.) 

The  Bill was accordingly  read  the  third  time 

and passed,  with  Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to the  same, with  Amendments;  to 
which this House  doth  desire the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  Marriages Provisional  Order  (No.  2) Bill 
was, according  to  Order, read the third time and 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey presented, by His  Trade Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  and  ^j™?1 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series, No.  4325. 

Ordered, That the  said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Resolved, That  this  House,  at  its  rising  this  Adjournment, 

day,  do adjourn till  Monday  next.—(Mr. Joseph
Pease.) 

Sir  George  Doughty  reported  from  the  Com-  Railway  Bills 

mittee  on Group  6  of  Railway  Bills ;  That, for  (Group 6.) 
the  convenience  of  parties,  the  Committee  had 
adjourned  till  Tuesday  next,  at  half  an  hour 
after Eleven  of  the  clock. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Proceedings  on  Clause  14 Business of 

of  the Finance  Bill  be  not  interrupted  this  day  t he  House 
at Five  of  the  clock  or  at  half-past  Five,  under  { c J X n t e e? 
the  Standing  Orders  relating  to  the  Sittings  of 
the  House;  and,  when  that  Clause  has  been 
disposed of  and  Progress  shall  be  reported,  Mr. 
Speaker  do adjourn the  House  without  Question 
put, if  Progress  is  reported  after  Five  of  the 
clock.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

The  House, according  to  Order,  proceeded  to

The  Public  Works  Loans  Bill  was, according   Public  Works 

take  into  consideration  the  Electric  Lighting  to  Order, read the third  time and passed. 

Loans  Bill. 

 
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Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry  the Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

Other  Amendments made.  

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended,  


Consolidated
F"nd 
tionfBUl!3"

.

The  Consolidated  Fund  (Appropriation)  Bill 
was,  according  to  Order,  read  the  third  time 
and  passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and  desire their  concurrence. 

Finance  Bill. 

The  House, according to  Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on the Finance  Bill. 

stand part of the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton : 


Yeas, 

Tellers  for  the  f Mr.  Henry  Forster, 
( Lord  Robert  Cecil:  


Noes, 

112. 

3 8. 


To  report  Progress, and  ask leave  to sit again.  


(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  14  (Definition  of  total  value and 

site  value of land, excluding  minerals). 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  11,1.  18, 
to  leave out from the  words  last omitted  to  the 
end of  subsection  (3).—(Mr.  Salter.) 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  word 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and 
the Chairman of Ways and  Means reported,  That 
the  Committee  had made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and that he  was directed  to move, That the  Com­
mittee may have leave  to sit again. 

Resolved, That this  House  will,  upon  Tuesday 
next, again resolve itself into the said Committee. 

"  where "  stand part of  the  Clause : 

Question  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

i Captain Norton : 

• 1 3 0. 

And  it  being  after  Five  of  the  clock,  Mr.  

Deputy  Speaker  adjourned  the  House  

without  Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  

Order  of  the  House  of this  day,  it  being  

then Eight of  the clock, till Monday  next.  


Noes, 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Salter, 
( Mr.  Gibbs: 

54. 
Another  Amendment proposed,  in p.  11,1.  18, 
to  leave  out  the  words "  in  the  opinion  of  the 
Commissioners."—(Mr.  Bowles.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause: — 
Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 
Another  Amendment  made. 
Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  claimed  to 
move, That in respect of  the words of the  Clause 
to  the  end  thereof  the  Chair  be  empowered  to 
select  the Amendments  to be  proposed. 

Chair 
empowered 
to  select 
Amendments. 

Question  put, That  in respect of  the  words  of 
the  Clause  to  the  end  thereof  the  Chair  be 
empowered  to  select  the  Amendments  to  be 
proposed. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

\ 
j

128. 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

) 
I Mr. Watson Rutherford: j

Noes, 

49. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in p.  11,1.  21, 
to leave  out from the  word  "  neighbourhood "  to 
the end  of  the subsection.—(Lord  Robert  Cecil.) 
Question  put,  That the  words  proposed  to  be 

left  out stand part of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

1 Captain  Norton : 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr. Salter, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Bowles : 

120. 

52. 

Other  Amendments made. 
Another  Amendment proposed,  in  p.  11,1.  30, 
after  the first word  "  land," to  insert  the  words 
"  or his predecessors in title."—(Mr. Lambton.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in p.  11,  1. 30, 
after  the first word  "  land,"  to  insert  the words 
"  or  arising  from  the  dedication  for  streets, 
passages, or open  spaces of  any part of  the  land 
of the  same owner."—(Mr.  Pretyman.)

Question  proposed,  That those  words  be  there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed to the proposed  Amend­
ment, to  leave  out the words  "  streets,  passages, 
or."—(Mr.  Pretyman.)

Question,  That  those  words stand  part of  the 

proposed  Amendment,  put, and negatived. 

Proposed  words,  as amended, there  inserted. 

VOL.  164. 

[No.  119.] 

Monday, 16th August 1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an  hour  

before  Three  of  the clock. 


P B A T E R S. 

TH E  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  North  Eastern, 

to take into  consideration  the  North  East- Bailway  Bill 

ern  Railway  Bill  [fiords],  as  amended  in  the 
Committee. 

Ordered, That  Standing  Orders  223  and 243 
be suspended, and that the Bill  be  now  read the 
third  time.—(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone,  by  His  Majesty's 
that  His 
Command,  acquainted  the  House 
Majesty, having  been  informed  of the  purport  of 
the  Bill,  gives  His  Consent,  as  far  as  His 
Majesty's  interest  is concerned,  that  the  House 
may  do  therein  as they  shall think  fit. 

Then  the  Bill  was  read  the  third  time and  


,  with  Amendments.  


Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the Bill  to  

the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House  

hath  agreed  to  the  same, with Amendments  j to 

which  this House  doth  desire  the concurrence  of  

their  Lordships.  


The  Electric  Lighting  Provisional  Orders  Electric 
(No.  1)  Bill  [Lords']  was,  according  to  Order,  Lighting 
read  the  third  time  and  passed, with  Amend-  ordera^To. l ) 
Bill [Lords.] 
ments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed  to  the same, with  Amendments;  to 
which  this  House  doth  desire  the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  Gas  and  Water  Orders  Confirmation  <jas and  Water 

Bill  [Lords]  was,  according  to  Order, read  the  Orders 
third time  and passed, with  Amendments. 

gonfomatjon 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same, with  Amendments;  to 
which  this House  doth  desire  the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  Tramways  Orders  Confirmation  Bill  Tramways 

[Lords]  was, according  to  Order, read  the third  Orders 
h 
time  and passed,  with  Amendments. 

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j 

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Bill [Lords.] } 

3  c  2 

 
 
 
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1909. 

[No. 119. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint them  that this  House 
hath agreed  to the same, with  Amendments;  to 
which this House  doth  desire  the concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant 
Penal 
(Conditioei,ti°t910  t h  e  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament.— 
Copy  of  Licence  granted  under  the  Penal 
Licence.)
Servitude  Acts  to  Carrie  Thomas, discharging 
her from Aylesbury  Convict  Prison  on  condition 
that she enter a  Home. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Midwives Act

Coramittee!)tal


  Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
  Command,—Copy  ot Report of the Departmental 
Committee  appointed  by  the  Lord  President  of 
the  Council  to  consider  the  working  of  the 
Midwives  Act,  1902.  Yol.  I.,  Report  and 
Appendices.  Yol.  II.,  Minutes   of  Evidence 
and  Index. 

Foreign 

Jurisdiction 

Act,  1890.  


Mr.  Runciman also presented, pursuant  to the 
directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,  — 
Copies  of  Three  Orders 
in  Council  under 
the  Foreign  Jurisdiction  Act,  1890,  dated 
10th  August  1909,  (1)  entitled  the  Southern 
Rhodesia  Order  in  Council,  1909;  (2)  entitled 
the  Cyprus  Courts  of  Justice  Amendment 
Order,  1909;  (3)  applying  the  Foreign  Tri­
bunals  Evidence  Act,  1856,  as amended  by  the 
Extradition  Act,  1870,  to  the  Protectorate  of 
Northern  Nigeria. 

Naval  and  

Marine  l'ay  

and  Pensions  

Act,  1865.  


Copies  of  Orders in  Council  under  the  Naval 
and  Marine Pay  and  Pensions  Act,  1865, dated 
10th  August  1909,  approving  Memorials  of  the 
Lords  Commissioners  of the  Admiralty. 

Merchant. 

Shipping  Acts,  

1894 to  1906.  


Copies  of  Two  Orders  in  Council  under  the 
Merchant  Shipping  Acts,  1894  to  1906, dated 
10th  August  1909,  exempting  German  and 
Norwegian  Ships  under  certain  conditions  from 
the  provisions  of  the  Act  of  1894  relating  to 
Life-saving  appliances. 

Winter 

Assize3 Acts, 

1876 and 1877.  


Copies  of  Seven  Orders  in  Council  under the 
Winter  Assizes  Acts,  1876  and  1877,  dated 
10th  August  1909,  constituting  Winter  Assize 
Counties,  Nos.  1  to  7,  for  the  purpose  of  the 
ensuing  Winter  Assizes. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Public  Records  

(Customs and 

Excise.) 


The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  was laid  upon 
the  Table  by  the  Clerk of the  House :—Copy of 
Sixth  Schedule,  containing  a list and  particulars 
of  Classes of  Documents  existing  or  accruing  in 
the  Office of  the  Commissioners  of  Customs  and 
Excise  which  are  not  considered  of  sufficient 
public  value to justify  their  preservation  in  the 
Public  Record  Office. 

Message from

the  Lords.


  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
  Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by 

one  of their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

Consolidated

(Appropria­
tion)  Bill.


m e n t. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Consolidated 

  Fund (Appropriation) Bill,  without  any  Amend­

Wild  Animals

in  Captivity

Protection

(Scotland)

Bill. 


Ordered, That  the  Wild  Animals in  Captivity 
  Protection  ( Scotland)  Bill  be  read  a  second 
' 

, 

t i me   to-morrow. 

Mr.  Fenwick  reported  from  the  Committee  Selection 
of  Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the  (Standing 
following  Members  from  Standing Committee  A  standing6 
(in  respect  of  the  Metropolitan  Ambulances  Committee A. 
Bill)  : — Mr.  Lehmann,  Mr.  Bertram  Straus,  Metropolitan 
and  Sir  Thomas Bramsdon;  and  had  appointed
anGes 
in  substitution 
(in  respect  of  the  sai d  Bill): 
Dr.  Shipman,  Mr.  Stephen  Collins,  and  Mr. 
Verney. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented  a  Bill  to  continue  Expiring  Laws 

various  expiring  Laws:  And  the  same  was  Continuance 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second time upon  Friday  ^'.jj  ^ 
next;  and to  be  printed. 

A  Message  was  delivered  by  Admiral  Sir  Boyal  Assent. 

Henry Frederick  Stephenson,  Gentleman  Usher 
of  the Black  R o d: 

Mr.	  Speaker, 

The  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commission,  for  declaring  His  Royal 
Assent  to  several  Acts  agreed  upon  by  both 
Houses, desire the  immediate  attendance  of  this 
Honourable  House  in  the  House  of  Peers,  to 
hear the  Commission  read. 

Accordingly  Mr.  Speaker,  with  the  House, 
went  up  to  the  House  of  Peers :—And  having 
returned; 

Mr.  Speaker  reported,  That  the  House,  at 
the desire  of  the  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of 
His  Majesty's  Commission,  had  been  at  the 
House  of  Peers, where  a Commission  under  the 
Great  Seal  was  read,  giving,  declaring,  and 
notifying  the  Royal  Assent  to  the  several  Acts 
therein mentioned;  and that  the  Lords  thereby 
authorised  had  declared  the  Royal  Assent  to 
the  said Acts,  as follow  : 

1.  Appropriation  Act,  1909. 
2.  Public  Works  Loans  Act,  1909. 
3.	  Railway  Rates  and  Charges  (Weston,  


Cievedon,  and  Portishead  Light  Rail­
ways)  Order  Confirmation  Act,  1909.  

4.	  Education  Board  Provisional  Order  Con­

firmation (London,  No.  1)  Act,  1909.  


5.	  Education  Board  Provisional  Order  Con­

firmation (London,  No. 2)  Act,  1909.  


6.	  Education  Board  Provisional  Orders  Con­
firmation (Bucks, &c.) Act,  1909.  

7.	  Land  Drainage  Provisional  Order  Con­

firmation (No.  1)  Act,  1909.  


8.	  Musselburgh  Gas  Order  Confirmation 

Act,  1909.  


9.	  Musselburgh  Corporation  (Extension  of  

Boundaries,  &c.)  Order  Confirmation 
Act,  1909.  


10.	  Caledonian  Railway  Order  Confirmation  


Act,  1909.  


11. 	 Glasgow Hospital  for  Skin Diseases Order 


Confirmation  Act,  1909.  


12. 	 Merchants  House  of  Glasgow  (Buchanan  


and  Ewing  Bequests)  Order  Confirma­
tion  Act,  1909.  


13.	  Board  of  Education  Scheme  (Cheshunt  

College)  Confirmation Act,  1909.  

14.	  Local  Government  Board  (Ireland)  Pro­

visional  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  1) 
Act,  1909.  


15.	  Local  Government  Board  (Ireland)  Pro­

visional  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  2)  

Act,  1909.  


Police  Super­
annuation 

(Scotland) 

(No.  2)  Bill.  


Ordered,  That  the  Police  Superannuation 
(Scotland)  (No.   2)  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Thursday  next. 

16.	  Local  Government  Board  (Ireland)  Pro­

visional  Order  Confirmation  (No.  3) 
Act,  1909.  


 
 
 
 
 








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llath  August 

381 

17. 	 Great  North  of  Scotland  Railway  Order 

Confirmation  Act,  1909. 

60.  Liverpool  Corporation  Act,  1909. 
61.	  Southport  and  Lytham  Tramroad  (Aban­

18. 	 Gas  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  1)  Act, 

donment)  Act,  1909. 

1909. 

62.	  Wallasey  Tramways  and  Improvements 

19. 	 Gas  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  2)  Act, 

Act,  1909. 

1909. 

20. 	 Electric  Lighting  Order  Confirmation 

(No.   2)  Act,  1909. 

21. 	 Saint Andrews  Water  Order  Confirmation 

Act,  1909. 

22.	  Edinburgh  Merchant  Company  Endow­

ments  Order  Confirmation  Act,  1909. 

23.	  Ardrossan  Harbour  Order  Confirmation 

Act,  1909. 

24.  Gas  Provisional  Order  Act,  1909. 
25.	  Pier  and  Harbour  Order  Confirmation 

(No.  1)  Act,  1909. 

26. 	 Pier  and  Harbour  Orders  Confirmation 

(No.  2)  Act,  1909. 

27. 	 Local  Government  Board's  Provisional 
Order  Confirmation  (Poor  Law)  Act, 
1909. 

28.  Local  Government  Board's  Provisional 
Orders  Confirmation  (No.  1)  Act,  1909. 
2 9. 	 Local  Government  Board's  Provisional 
Orders  Confirmation  (No.   2)  Act,  1909. 
30. 	 Local  Government  Board's  Provisional 
Orders  Confirmation  (No.  3)  Act,  1909. 
31. 	 Local  Government  Board's  Provisional 
Orders  Confirmation  (No.  4)  Act,  1909. 
3 2. 	 Local  Government  Board's  Provisional 
Orders  Confirmation  (No.   5)  Act,  1909. 
33. 	 Local  Government  Board's  Provisional 
Orders  Confirmation  (No.  7)  Act,  1909. 
34. 	 Local  Government  Board's  Provisional 
Orders  Confirmation  (No.   8)  Act,  1909. 
3 5. 	 Local  Government  Board's  Provisional 

Orders  Confirmation  (Gas)  Act,  1909. 
36.	  Provisional  Order  (Marriages)  Confirma­

tion  Act,  1909. 

37. 	 Metropolitan  Commons  Scheme  Con­

firmation Act,  1909. 

38. 	 Sea  Fisheries  (Tees)  Provisional  Order 

Confirmation  Act,  1909. 

39.	  Remission  of  Surcharges  (Dublin)  Act, 

1909. 

63.  University  of  Bristol  Act,  1909. 
64.  Wakefield  Corporation  Act,  1909. 
65.	  Great  Western  Railway  (Steam  Vessels) 

Act,  1909. 

66.  Harrogate  Gas  Act,  1909. 
67.  Eskdale  Railway  Act,  1909. 
68.	  Frimley  and Farnborough  District  Water 

Act,  1909. 

69.	  Lancashire  and  Yorkshire  and  North 

Eastern  Railways  Act,  1909. 

70.	  South  Staffordshire  Waterworks  Act, 

1909. 

71.  North  East  London  Railway  Act,  1909. 
72.	  London  and  North  Western  Railway  Act, 

1909. 

73.	  Folkestone,  Sandgate,  and  Hythe  Tram­

ways Act,  1909. 

74.	  Great Yarmouth  (Burgh  Castle  Drainage) 

Act,  1909. 

75.  Southend-on-Sea  Corporation  Act,  1909. 
76.	  Aldershot  Gas,  Water,  and  District 

Lighting  Act,  1909. 
77.  Ammanford  Gas  Act,  1909. 
78.  Manchester  Corporation  Act,  1909. 
79.	  Lisburn  Urban  District  Council  Act, 

1909. 

80.	  Westminster  City  Council  (Superannua­

tion  and  Pensions)  Act,  1909. 

81.	  Alexandra  (Newport  and  South  Wales) 

Docks  and  Railway  Act,  1909. 

82.  Alliance  and  Dublin  Gas  Act,  1909. 
83.  West  Gloucestershire  Water  Act,  1909. 
84.  Derwent  Valley  Water  Act,  1909. 
85.  Oxford  and  District Tramways  Act,  1909. 
(Amendment) 
86.	  Pontypridd  Waterworks 

Act,  1909. 

87.	  Swinton  and  Mexborough  Gas  Board  Act, 

1909. 

88.	  City  of  London 

(Street  Traffic)  Act, 

1909. 

40.  Ards  Railways  Act,  1909. 
41. 	 Stock  Conversion  and  Investment  Trust, 
Limited  (North  Eastern  Railway  Con-
sols), Act,  1909. 

89.	  Thames  Tunnel  (North  and  South  Wool­

wich)  Act,  1909. 

90.	  South  Western  and Isle of  Wight Junction 

Railway  Act,  1909. 

42.	  Rio  Tinto  Company,  Limited  (Delivery 

91.	  Gateshead  and  District  Tramways  Act, 

Warrants),  Act,  1909. 
43.	  Indian  Railway  Annuities 

(Sinking 

Funds) Act,  1909. 

44.  Midland  Railway  Act,  1909. 
45.  Grantham  Waterworks  Act,  1909. 
46.  Clevedon  Water  Act,  1909. 
47.  Worksop  Waterworks  Act,  1909. 
48.  Eastbourne  Gas  Act,  1909. 
49.  Dudley  Corporation  Act,  1909. 
50.  Donington  Water  Act,  1909. 
51.  Pontypool  Gas  and Water  Act,  1909. 
52.  South  Western  Railway  Act,  1909.  ' 
53.	  Cork,  Bandon,  and  South  Coast  Railway 

Act,  1909. 

54.	  York  Town and  Blackwater  Gas  (Electric 

Lighting,  &c.)  Act,  1909. 

55.	  Preston, Chorley, and  Horwich  Tramways 

Act,  1909. 

56.  Bungay  Water  Act,  1909. 
57.	  County of Durham Electric Power  Supply 

Act,  1909. 

58.  Malvern  Hills  Act,  1909. 
59.	  East  Sussex  County  Council  A c t,  1909. 

VOL.  164. 

1909. 

92.  Central  London  Railway  Act,  1909. 
93.  Hull  and  Barnsley  Railway  Act,  1909. 
94.  Blackwood  Gas  Act,  1909. 
95.  Holywood  Tramways  Act,  1909. 
96.	  London  County  Council  (Tramways  and 

Improvements)  Act,  1909. 

97.	  Midland  Great  Western  Railway  of 

Ireland  Act,  1909. 
98.  Barry  Railway  Act,  1909. 
99.  West  Kent  Electric  Power  Act,  1909. 

100.	  Methwoid  and  Feltwell  Drainage  Act, 

1909. 

101.	  South  Eastern and  London, Chatham, and 

Dover  Railways  Act,  1909. 

102.	  London  County  Council  (Money)  Act, 

1909. 

103.	  Llanelly  Waterworks  Act,  1909. 
104.	  Northallerton  Waterworks  Act,  1909. 
105.	  Great Western  Railway  (General  Powers) 

Act,  1909. 

106.	  Great  Central  Railway  (Various  Powers) 

A c t,	   1909.  


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[No. 110. 

107.	  Collooney,  Ballina,  and  Belmullet  Rail­

ways  and  Piers  Act,  1909. 
108.  Greenock  Corporation  Act,  1909. 
109.	  London  County Council (General  Powers) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  Land  


Committee  on the Irish  Land  Bill;  

BiUi 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  upon  Friday  


next, resolve  itself into  the said  Committee.  


Act,  1909. 

110.  Heywood  Corporation  Act,  1909. 
111.	  Prestatyn  Urban  District  Council  Act, 

1909. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, &c. J?wn. 
Ti-ii  .  
6 ' 
» 

Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

S 

„

112.	  Gas  Light  and  Coke  Company's  Act, 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  upon  Friday 

1909. 

next, resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

113.	  Watford  Urban  District  Council  Act, 

1909. 

114.  Oldham  Corporation  Act,  1909. 
115.	  Mountain  Ash  Urban  District  Council 

Act,  1909. 

116.	  Stourbridge  and  District  Water  Board 

Act,  1909. 

117.  Risca  Urban  District  Council  Act,  1909. 
118.	  Torquay  and  Paignton  Tramways  Act, 

1909. 

119.  Shrewsbury  Corporation  Act,  1909. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  House  Letting 

into  consideration 
the  House  Letting  and 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the

Standing  Committee;  


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow.  


R a t ™ g 
an 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking London 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections

(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee)  ;  


  Bifl  Blectioris Bm>

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

The  South Africa  Bill  [Lords] was, according 

sideration  upon  Friday  next.  


to  Order,  read a second  time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Thursday 
next.—(Colonel  Seely.) 

The House, according to Order, resolved  itself 
into  a  Committee  on  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  [Stamp  Duties,  &c.]. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved, That,  in pursuance of  the  provisions 
of  any  Act  of the present  Session  to  amend  the 
Law  relating  to  Customs and  Inland  Revenue, 
it is  expedient— 

(1)  t,o discontinue	  in  certain  cases  the  pay­

ment of  drawback  on  tobacco  refuse ; 

,	  (2)  to  discontinue  certain 

limitations  and 
exemptions from stamp  duty  allowed  under 
the  Stamp Act,  1891 ; 

(3)  to  discontinue	  the  allowance  of  discount 
on  the  prepayment  of  income  tax,  and  to 
limit  the  amount  of  the  deduction  on 
account of  rates to  be  allowed  in  assessing 
to 
income  tax  tithe  rent-charge  to  the 
amount  of  rates actually  paid. 

— (Mr. Joseph Pease.) 

Resolution  to be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman reported, That  the  Committee 
had come to  a Resolution. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Secretary  of 
B°^rd o£ 
a M  Fisheries 

Committee  on  the  Secretary  of  the  Board  of 
Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Bill;  

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,BlU­

resolve  itself  into the said  Committee.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Assistant  

Committee  on the Assistant  Postmaster  General  Postmaster  


General  Bill. 

.	 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking Marine 

into  consideration  the  Marine  Insurance  (Gam ­
bling  Policies)  Bill,  as amended  in the  Standing p0udes)BiiL 
Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking  Electric 

into  consideration  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts  Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment)  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  in  the  k u ^ w " ]  0 
Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Telegraph 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration)  (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee)  ;  1 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

So nth Africa 
Bill [Lords.] 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue 
[Stamp 
Duties,  &c.] 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

sideration  to-morrow. 

morrow. 

Secretary  of 
the Board of 
Agriculture 
and  Fisheries 
[Salary.] 

The House, according to Order, resolved itself 
into  a  Committee  on  Secretary  of  the  Board 
of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  [Salary]. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Weeds and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Weeds  and Agricultural  f|er^ultural 
Seeds  (Ireland)  Bill;  

(Ireland)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

(In  the  Committee.) 

upon  Friday  next. 

Resolved,  That  it  is  expedient  to  authorise 

the payment, out of  moneys  provided by  Parlia­
ment,  of  the  salary  of  a  second  Secretary,  in 
pursuance of any  Act  of  the  present  Session  to 
enable  a  second  Secretary  to  be  appointed  for 
the  Board  of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries.—(Mr. 
Joseph Pease.) 

Resolution  to be  reported. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Committee  on the  Customs  and Inland  Revenue ' n l a nd  _.„ 
t  , . .  , 
Bevenue  Bill. 
Bill: 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  upon  Friday 

next, resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Superannua-

Third  Reading  of  the  Superannuation  Bill; 

tion  Bill. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman reported, That  the  Committee 
had come to  a Resolution. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

T he  Order  o f :  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  Dublin Police 

morrow. 

Second  Reading  of the  Dublin  Police  Bill;  

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Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

Child  Murder 
(Trial) BiU 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bil]-[£«r<foj; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

The  Order  of the  day being read, for  resuming 
the adjourned Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  21st  day  of April  last,  That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill be now  read  a second time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Friday  next. 

Places of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
the  Places  of  Worship 

Second  Reading  of 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Local 
Goternment 
(Audit  of 
Accounts) 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Lunacy 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Merchandise 
Marks 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Merchandise  Marks 
(Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Fisheries 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Ireland) 

Second  Reading  of  the  Fisheries 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

London 
Electric 
Supply  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Milk and 

Second  Reading  of  the  Milk  and  Dairies  Bill:

Dairies 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second time  


upon  Friday  next.  


The  Order  of  th<  day  being  read,  for  the Check-
Second Reading  of the Cheekweighing in various  weighing  in 
Industries  Bill; 
' 

T ™  . 
Industries 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time B']1­

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order of the day being read, for  resuming  Houses of 
the adjourned Debate on  the Amendment  which,  Parliament 
upon  the  20th  day of  April  last, was  proposed 
to  be made to the  Question, That the  Houses  of 
Parliament  Bill  be now  read a second  time; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further  adjourned 

till  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  t he  Shops (No.  2) 

Second  Reading  of  the  Shops (No.  2)  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Bridgend 

Third  Reading  of  the  Bridgend  (Hope  English 
Baptist  Chapel,  &c.)  Charity  Bill; 

English 

Chapel, &c.) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the third  time Chality  Bm­

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  John 

Third  Reading of  John  Marshall's Charity  Bill; 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read the third time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Lichfield  and 

Third  Reading  of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon  £oasdon 
Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property  chapels  and°a 
Charity  Bill; 
Trust Property 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  the  third  time  C h a u ty  BlU­

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dewsbury 
Third  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley  ^ J  f  atLal 
Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill; 

Chapel 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read the  third  time  Charities  Bm­

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  the Wortley 

Third  Reading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational
Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read the  third  time 

ltional 

Charity  Bill. 

upon  Thursday  next. 

upon  Friday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  Oaths Bill, 

Election  of 
Aldermen  in 
Municipal 
Boroughs  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Election  of  Aldermen 
in Municipal  Boroughs  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Established 
Church 
{Wales)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church 
(Wales)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Buildings  and 
Engineering 
Works  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading of  the Buildings  and  Engineer­
ing  Works  Bill; 

into consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  taken  into  further 

consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  taking  Temperance 

into  consideration  the  Temperance  (Scotland)  (Scotland) 
Bill,  as amended  in  the Standing  Committee ; 

1 " 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Friday  the  27th  day  of  this 
instant  August. 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  Licensed 
into  consideration the  Licensed  Premises  (Elec- P'1?1™868 
tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the bays) Closing 
Standing  Committee; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

upon  Friday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

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1909. 

[No. 120. 

Bishopric of 
The  Order  of  the  day  being read, for  taking 
Sheffield Bill.  into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield 

Bill,  as amended  in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con-

sideration  to-morrow. 

[No.  120.] 
Tuesday, 17th August 1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Asylums 
Officers' 
Superannua­
tion  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  the  Asylums  Officers'  Super­
annuation  (recommitted)  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

Public Health
Officers BiU.

T he  O r d er   o f  t he  d ay  b e i ng  r e a d,  f or  t he 

  Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Officers 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  15th  day  of  September 
next. 

Professional 
Accountants 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the  Professional  Accountants 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Pawning 
Industrial 
Tools BiU. 

The  Order  of.  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of the Pawning  Industrial Tools 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Friday  next. 

Ambulances 
t Metropolis) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Ambulances  (Metro­
polis)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Education
(Conditions of  Second  Reading of  the  Education (Conditions of 
Grant) Bill.

Q p a n t)  B f fl

  . 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Cheap Trains 
BiU. 

The  Cheap  Trains  Bill  was,  according  to 
Order, read  a second  time,  and  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

Public Health 
Act  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Bights) BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Dogs'  Protection  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  seoond  time 

to-morrow. 

Wild  Birds 
Protection 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

A nd  then  the  House,  having  continued   to 
sit  till  five  minutes  after  Eleven   of  the 
clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow. 

AP U B L IC   Petition  was presented, and read ;  Public 

and ordered  to lie  upon  the  Table. 

Vide Kfth 
Beport. 

Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Mercantile 

Command,—Copy  of  Report  to the  Secretary of  ^ r i, n e_ 
the  Board of  Trade  upon  the  Sight  Tests  used  ( S l g ht  Te8ta-> 
in  the  Mercantile  Marine,  for  the  year  ended 
31st December  1908. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Queen's 

Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  President  College, Cork, 
of  Queen's  College,  Cork,  for  the  Session 
1908-9,  with  Appendices. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Sir  Francis  Channing reported from  Standing  standing 

Committee  A ,  to  whom  the  Metropolitan 
bulances  Bill  was referred ;  That  they  had gone  Ambulances 
through  the  Bill  and  made  Amendments  there-Bill, 
unto. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the

  No. 259. 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Ordered, That  the  Minutes  of the Proceedings

  No. 259, 

of  the  Standing  Committee be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the
Standing  Committee, be taken into  consideration 
to-morrow ;  and be  printed. 

  Bill 303. 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  Colonial  Naval 

Colonial  Naval  Defence  Act,  1865 :  And  the  Defence  Bill, 
same  was  ordered  to  be read  a second  time upon  Bill  3 0 4. 
Monday  next;  and to  be  printed. 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented  a Bill  to make better Naval 
provision  respecting  Naval  Establishments  in  Estabiish-
British  Possessions :  And  the same was ordered 
BlU­
to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Monday  next;
3 0 5 ­
and to be  printed. 

Mr.  T.  W.  Russell reported  from  the  Com-  Finance 

mittee  on  Finance 
Fund)  a  Resolution;  which  was  read,  as  fol- Fund.)1  a  e 
loweth: 

(Consolidated 

[Expenses] 

That it  is expedient, to  authorise the  payment, 
out  of  moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of  any 
expenses  or  remuneration  payable  in  connection 
with  any  valuation  of  land  or  premises for the 
purposes of  any duty  charged  under  any  Act  of 
the  present  Session relating  to  Finance. 

The  said Resolution  being read  a second  time; 
And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  this House doth agree  with 
the  Committee  in the  said  Resolution  : —And  a 
Debate  arising  thereupon  ; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question 
be now  put. 

tion  be  now  put; 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  Ques-  Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 

Tellers for  thej  Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for  t h e /  S i ^ f y a n r f e ? '

A c l a n d

^oes, 

|Mr. Henry  Forster: 

So it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

204. 

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J 

92. 



 
 
 
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And the Question being  accordingly  put,  That 
this  House  doth  agree  with  the  Committee  in 
the  said  Resolution; 

The  House  divided. 

T he  Y e as   to  the  R i g h t; 
The  Noes  to the  Left, 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
* Captain  Norton: 
Tellers for the/Mr,  George Faber, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Watson Rutherford 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  claimed 
to  move,  That 
in  respect  of  the  words  of 
the  Clause  to  the  end  thereof  the  Chair  be 
empowered  to  select  the  Amendments  to  be 
proposed. 

Question  put,  That  in respect of  the  words of  Chair 

• 214. 

the  Clause  to  the  end  thereof  the  Chair  be
empowered  to  select  the  Amendments  to  be  Amendments, 
proposed. 

 ^  ^ 

1  

92 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  1  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

t Captain  Norton : 

Finance Bill, 

The  House, according to Order, resolved itself 

Tellers  for  the j  ^Alexander 

Aclmd­

into  a Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  15 postponed. 
Clause  No.  16  (Returns  as  to  value  of  land 

from owners). 

Amendment  proposed,  in p.  12,1.  23, to  leave 
out  from  the word  "  cause "  to the  word  "  the," 
in  1. 25, in order  to insert the words "  a valuation 
to  be made of  all  land in  the  United  Kingdom, 
showing  separately."—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

Question, That  the word "  returns "stand  part 

of the  Clause, put, and negatived. 

Subsequent  Words  left  out. 
Question  proposed,  That those  words be  there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed to the proposed  Amende 
ment,  to  leave  out  the  word  "  all." —  (Lord 
Robert  Cecil.) 

Question  proposed,  That the  word "  all "  stand 
part  of  the  proposed  Amendment:  —  Debate 
arising; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to move, That  the  Question 
be  now  put. 

Question  put,  That the  Question  be now put. 

T he  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
j Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

226. 

Tellers for the 
' 
Noes, 

Sir Alexander  Acland-  ) 

Hood, 

YiscoUnt  Valentia : 

[ 9 4. 
) 

Question put accordingly, That the wOrd "  all" 

stand part of  the proposed  Amendment. 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

The Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 
| Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the  ( Lord  Robert  Cecil, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Lane-Fox: 
Mr, Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose in his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Main 
Question  be  now put. 

„„

) 
J 

Main 
Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question, That  those  words be  there inserted, 

put accordingly,  and agreed  to. 
Other  Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  12,1.  26, 
after the  word  "  land,"  to  insert  the words "  and 
distinguishing  that  portion  of  the  site  value 
which  is  due  to  the  capacity  of  the  land  for 
agricultural  purposes."—(Mr.  Salter.) 

Question proposed, That  those  words  be  there 

inserted: 

Proposed  Amendment  amended  by  leaving 
out  the  word ' ' capacity,"  in  order to  insert  the 
word  "  value."—(Mr.  Salter.) 

Proposed  words,  as amended, there inserted. 

Another  Amendment  made.  


VOL.  164.  


208, 

69. 

Noes 
' 

I 
I Mr.  Henry  Forster : 

' 

)

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  12,1.  30, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "and  being,"  in  order 
to insert  the  words  "  shall  be separately  valued, 
and  the  value  shall  be.".'—  (Mr.  Attorney 
General.) 

Question,  That  the  words  proposed  to be left 
out stand  part of  the Clause, put, and  negatived. 
Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted., 

The Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  (  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

{ Captain  Norton ; 

Tellers for the )  Mr. Courthope, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Hills: 

211. 

74. 

Another  Amendment proposed, in  p.  12,1.  31, 
at  the  end,  to  insert  the  words  "  Any  costs and 
expenses  reasonably  incurred  by  an  owner  in 
connection  with  any  valuation  or  valuations 
made  for  the  purposes  of  this  section  shall  be 
defrayed  by  the  Commissioners, out  of  moneys 
provided  by  Parliament  for the  purpose."—(Mr. 
James Hope.) 

Question proposed, That  those  words be  there 

inserted :—Debate  arising  ; 

Mr.  Markham rose  in his  place  and  claimed 

to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now  put. 

Question put,  That the  Question  be  now put.  Question put 
acTSure 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
of  Debate')
1 Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

225. 

) 
J 

Tellers for the J ^Alexander  Acland­

Noes 
' 

H o o d> 

) 
( Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

93. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  those  words 

226. 

be there  inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Earl of  Ronaldshay, 

Yeas,  1 

( Captain  Clive : 

Tellers  for the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 
( Captain  Norton : 


Noes, 

99. 

h231. 

Another  Amendment  made.  

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  12,1.  34,  

at  the  beginning,  to  insert  the  words  "  Any 
owner of land  and  any  person  receiving  rent in 
respect  of  any land  shall,  on being  required  by 
notice  from  the  Commissioners,  furnish  to  the 
Commissioners  a  return  containing  such  par­
ticulars  as  the Commissioners  may require  as to 
the rent  received  by him, and any other informa­
tion  which  the  Commissioners  may require, and 
Which  it  is  in  his  power  to  give,  and."—(Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

Question proposed, That  those  Words  be there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed  to the proposed  Amend­
ment,  in  1. 5,  to  leave  out  the  words  "  and  any 
3  D 

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[No. 120. 

other information which the  Commissioners  may 
require."—(Mr. Mitchell-Thomson.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to be  left out  stand  part of  the proposed  Amend­
ment :—Amendment  to  the  proposed  Amend­
ment, by leave, withdrawn. 
Proposed  words  inserted. 

Another  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  12,1.  36, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "  thirty,"  in  order  to 
insert the  word  "  sixty."—(Mr.  Younger.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  thirty  " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—Amendment,  by 
leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  12,1.  37, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  " penalty "  to  the 
word  "  but," in  1. 39, in order to insert the words 
"  of  forty  shillings."—(Mr.  George  Faber.) 

Question  put, That  the  words proposed  to  be 

left out stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  proceeded  to  a Division. 

Wednesday,  18th August 1909  :  


Tellers for the  f Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 


Tellers  for  the  I Mr.  George  Faber,  

(  Mr.  Joynson-Hicks: 

Noes, 

} 199. 

89. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  12,  1. 39, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  but  the  penalty  shall 
only  be  recoverable  in  the  High  Court.  —(Sir 
Edward Carson.) 

Question put, That  the words  proposed  to  be 

left out stand part of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 
. 

,, 

m  „ 
Tellers for  the 
Noes, 

( Captain  Norton : 
[ Sir  Alexander Acland-

H o  < 

( Mr.  Henry Forster : 

Amendment  proposed  to the proposed  Amend­
ment, to leave out the word "  provisional."—(Mr. 
Austen  Chamberlain.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "provi­
sional "  stand  part of  the proposed  Amendment: 
—Amendment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  proposed  to the proposed 
Amendment,  after  the  first  word  "land,"  to 
insert  the words  "containing  full  particulars  of 
such  valuation."—(Mr.  Younger.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be there 
inserted  in  the  proposed  Amendment:—Debate 
arising; 
;  Mr.  Attorney  General  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to move, That  the  Question be now put. 

Question put,  That  the  Question  be now put.  Question put 
s ! o ™ r  e 
The  Committee  divided. 
of  Debate.) 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton : 
fSir  Alexander  Acland-

Yeas, 

158. 

,, 

m ,, 
. 
Tellers for the) 
J N o e s  ' 

H o o  ^ 

[Lord  Edmund  Talbot:  J 

65. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  those  words 

be there inserted  in the proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the j  Mr.  Younger,

Yeas, 

| Colonel  Williams  : 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

64. 

l  ie? 
j 

Noes, 

I Captain  Norton: 
Mr.  Attorney  General  claimed,  That  the 

"... 

Main  Question  be  now  put. 

Question,  That  those words  be  there inserted,  Main 

put accordingly,  and agreed to. 

Question put 
Mr.  Attorney  General  claimed  to  move,  That s^o^Ctosure 

in respect  of  the words of  the  Clause  to  the  end o£  Debate.) 
thereof  the  Chair  be  empowered  to  select  the 
Amendments  to be  proposed. 

187. 

80. 

Question  put,  That  in respect  of  the words of chair 
the  Clause  to  the  end  thereof  the  Chair  be  empowered 
empowered  to  select  the  Amendments  to  be Amendments, 
proposed. 

Other  Amendments  made. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand  part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
I Captain  Norton : 
! Sir  Alexander  Acland-

Yeas, 
j. 

m  ,, 
,-,' 
Tellers for the 
JNoes, 

H o o d> 

|  Mr. Henry  Forster  : 

I  170 
j 

75. 

Clause  No.  17 (Ascertainment  of  the  original 

total and the  original  site  value  of  land). 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 
Chairman  do report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to 
sit again.—(Mr.  Peel.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Peel, 

Yeas, 

|  Mr.  Mildmay : 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

72. 

172. 

Noes, 

1 Captain  Norton : 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  13,1.  4, to  leave 
out from the word  "  cause "  to  the word  " and," 
in  1. 5, in order  to  insert  the words  "  a copy  of 
their  provisional  valuation  of  any  land  to  be 
served  on the  owner  of  the  land."—(Mr.  Chan­
cellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

Question, That  the words proposed  to  be  left 
out stand part of  the  Clause, put, and  negatived. 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted: 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Pike Pease : 

154. 

65. 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  13,1.  10, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  correct  "  to  the 
word  "  and,"  in  1. 12, in order to  insert  the words 
"  he may, with  a view  to  an  amendment of  the 
provisional  valuation,  within  sixty  days  of  the 
date  on  which the  copy  of  the provisional  valua­
tion  is  served,  or  such  extended  time  as  the 
Commissioners  may  in  any  special  case  allow, 
give to  the  Commissioners  notice  of objection  to 
the  provisional  valuation, stating  the grounds  of 
his objection  and  the amendment  he  desires."— 
(Mr.  Attorney  General.) 

Question,  That  the  words proposed  to  be  left 
out stand  part of the  Clause, put,  and  negatived. 
Question  proposed,  That those  words be  there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed to the proposed  Amend­
ment, in  1. 5, to leave out the words "  the grounds 
of his objection and."-—(Mr. Austen  Chamberlain.) 
Question  put,  That the words  proposed  to  be 
left out stand part of the proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

) 
j 
Tellers for the j  Lord  Edmund Talbot, 1 

1 Captain  Norton: 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

( Mr. Pike  Pease: 

148. 

j  59. 

No. 120.]  e EDW.  y i i. 

1 Ith—l&th 

August. 

387 

Question  put.  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

{  Captain  Norton: 

)
)  146^ 
1 
( Mr. Mitchell- Thomson:  j 

5 4j 

Tellers  for the j  Mr. Joynson-Hicks, 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  13,1.  17, 
to  leave out from  the word  "  I f  "  to  the  second 
word  "the,"  in  1. 22, in order  to insert  the words 
"the  provisional  valuation  is  not  amended  by 
the  Commissioners  so as to  be satisfactory to any: 
Objector,  that  objector  may  give  a  notice  of 
reference  under  this  Act  with  respect  to  the 
valuation, but  if no such  notice  is  given."—(Mr.' 
Chancellor of the  Exchequer.) 

inserted  : 

Question, That  the words  proposed  to  be  left; 
out stand  part of  the  Clause, put, and  negatived. 
Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 
' 
Amendment  made  in  1.  3  of  the  proposed; 
Amendment by leaving out the word "  reference," 
in  order  to  insert  the  word  "  appeal."—(Mr. 
Austen  Chamberlain.) 

Words,  as amended, inserted. 
Other Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  13,  1. 26, 

j 

at the  end, to insert the  words— 

"  (4)  Before adopting  or determining  any sum 
as  the  total  or  site  value  of  any  land  for  the 
purposes of  this  Part of  this Act  the  Commis­
sioners shall give  to every person  known to  them 
to  be  interested in  the land  notice  of  the  amount 
proposed  to  be  adopted  or  determined,  and  an 
opportunity  of  objecting  thereto,  and  shall  con­
sider any objection  made  by  any such  person."— 
(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  proposed, That  those words  be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Other Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment proposed,  in  p.  13,1.  40, 

at the end,  to add the  words— 

"  (6)  A  copy  of  a  provisional  valuation  under 
this section  shall  be  sufficiently served  if  served 
by  post at the  address of  the owner furnished  to 
the  Commissioners  under  the  powers  given  to 
them  to  require  a  person  who  pays  rent  to 
furnish  the  address  of  the  person  to  whom  he 
pays  rent;  or,  if  that  address  cannot  be  ascer­
tained, by  leaving  a copy addressed  to  the owner 
with  some  occupier  of the land;  or, if there is no 
occupier,  by  causing  it  to  be  put  up  in  some 
conspicuous place on the land."—( Mr. Chancellor 
of  the  Exchequer.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

added. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for  the j  Mr. Remnant, 
( Mr.  Gibbs  -. 

Noes, 

148. 

48. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the  (Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

) 
I Lord  Edmund  Talbot-. j 

Noes, 

143. 

48. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 
Chairman  do report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to 
sit again.—(Mr.  Bonar  Law.) 

VOL.  164. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Henry Forster, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

) 
|  Lord  Edmund Talbot:  f 
) 
j 

( Captain  Norton : 

48. 

140. 

Tellers for  the j  Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Clause  No.  18 (Periodical  valuation  of  unde­

veloped  land and minerals). 
An  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  14,  1. 3, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "fourteen,"  in  order  to 
insert the  word  "nineteen."—(Mr.  Lane-Fox.) 

Question  put,  That  the  word  "fourteen" 

stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the  1  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton  : 

Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Lane-Fox,
( Mr.  Remnant: 

Noes, 

132. 

43. 

Other Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  14,  to 

leave  out Is.  13 to  18, inclusive.—(Mr.  Salter.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 
left out, to the word "  or,"  in  1. 14, stand part of 
the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  I Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Salter, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Lane-Fox : 

134. 

43. 

Other Amendments  made. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Clause No.  19 (Assessment of duty  on separate 
parcels  of  land and  apportionment  of  valuation). 
Amendment  proposed, in  p. 14,1. 21,  to  leave 
out  the words  "  as  the  Commissioners  think  fit." 
—(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:  — 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the |  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Mitchell-Thomson,  )  42. 

t Mr.  Joynson-Hicks : 

j 

Noes, 

133. 

Clause  No.  20  (Information  as  to  name  of 

owners of  land). 
,  Amendment proposed, in p.  14,1.  27,  to  leave 
out from the  word  "  land "  to the word  "  shall," 
in  1. 28.—(Mr.  James Hope.) 

Question, That the words "  and every  person " 

stand part of the  Clause, put, and agreed  to. 

Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  14,1. 31, 

at the end, to insert the words— 

"  (2)  Every  person  so  paying  rent,  and 
required  to  give  such  information  and  furnish 
such particulars  as provided in this section,  shall 
be  informed  in  the  notice  so sent to  him by  the 
Commissioners of  the name  of  some  official  and 
the  address  of  some  office  within  a  reasonable 
distance  where he can apply and be assisted  with 
information,  instruction,  and  advice,  so  as  to 
correctly  fill  up  any  required  form." —  (Mr. 
Joynson-Hicks.) 

Question,  That  those words  be  there  inserted, 

put, and  negatived. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  14,  1.  32, 

to  leave  out  subsection  (2).—(Mr.  Lane-Fox.)
3  D  2 

388 

17^—18$

August. 

1909. 

[No. 130. 

Question  put,  That  the  words  "  If  any  per­

Resolved, That this House  do  now  adjourn.—  Adjournment. 

son "  stand part of the  Clause. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

{ Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Lane-Fox, 

Noes, 

( Mr. Bridgeman  : 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con-
tinued  to  sit  till  nineteen minutes before 

Nine of the clock  on Wednesday morning, 

adjourned till this  day.  


134. 

t 

42, 

Another  Amendment proposed, in p.  14,1.  32, 
after  the  word  "  person,"  to  insert  the  words 
"wilfully  or  knowingly."—(Mr.  Austen Cham­
berlain.) 

Question proposed,  That  those  words be there 

inserted  :—Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as amended, 

stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the j  Mr. Remnant, 

Noes, 

j Mr. Evelyn  Cecil: 

133. 

42. 

Clause  No.  21  (Determination  of  value  of 

consideration). 

Amendment proposed,  in  p.  15,1.  3,  after  the 
word  " payment,"  to insert the words "  on  a five 
per cent, basis."—(Mr.  James Hope.) 

Question  proposed, That  those words  be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment, by leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  15,1. 5, 
to leave out the words  "  in cases where a  nominal 
rent only  has been  reserved."—(Mr.  Salter.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  "  in  cases 

where "  stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

{ Captain Norton : 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Salter, 

Noes, 

( Mr,  Courthope : 

134. 

43. 

An  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  15,1.  9, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  think  just,"  in  order 
to  insert  the  word  "  determine."—(Sir  Henry
Craik.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "think 
just "  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—Amendment, 
by leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  15,1.  15, 
after the  word  "determine,"  to insert the  words 
"  after  giving  to  every  person  interested  in the 
land notice of  the apportionment  proposed to -toe 
made,  and  an  opportunity of  objecting  thereto.'! 
—(Mr. Mitchell-Thomson.) 

Question proposed,  That  those  words be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as amended, 

stand  part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton: 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

1 Lord  Edmund Talbot:  ) 

|
1 
1  42. 

S T A N D I NG  COMMITTEES. 

Distribution  by  Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Stand­

ing  Order  No.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a  

Standing  Committee.  


Name  of  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee. 

Cheap Trains  Bill  -

-

A . 

[No.  121.] 

Wednesday, ISth August 1909. 

The  House  met at a quarter  of  an hour 

before  Three  of  the  clock.  


TH E  House  being  met,  the  Clerk  at  the  Mr. Speaker's  


Table informed  the  House  of  the  unavoid-  Absence,  


able  absence  of  Mr.  Speaker,  through 
position, from  this  day's  Sitting:—Whereupon  

Mr.  Emmott,  the  Chairman  of  Ways  and Means, 

proceeded  to the  Table,  and, after Prayers, took  Prayers,  

the  Chair  as  Deputy  Speaker, pursuant  to  the  

Standing  Order.  


indis­

Ordered, That  the Dunoon Burgh Bill [Lords'],  Dunoon  Burgh 

as  amended  in  the  Committee,  be  taken  into  BiU 
consideration  to-morrow. 

Several Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  public 

r 

read;  and ordered  to  lie  upon the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 
Beport. 
Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Railway 
Command,—Copy  of  Summary  of  Accidents  and Accidents. 
Casualties,  as  reported  to  the  Board  of  Trade 
by  the  several  Bailway  Companies 
in  the 
U nited  Kingdom, during the three months ended 
31st  March  1909, together  with  Reports  of  the 
Inspecting  Officers of  the  Railway  Department 
to  the  Board  of  Trade  upon  certain  Accidents 
which  were inquired  into. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Secretary Sir  Edward Grey  presented,  by  His  Trade  Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  and  (Annual 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series, No.  4326. 
S e r i e f° 

Copy  of  Despatch  from  His  Majesty's  Am-   Workmen's 
bassador  at  Paris  forwarding  a  Convention  Compensation 
between  Great  Britain  and  France,  signed  at [^<£1-
S 
Paris,  3rd  July  1909, in  regard  to  Workmen's  laneous, 
Compensation for Accidents. 

No- 8>1909 ) 

To report Progress, and ask leave to  sit again. 

Ordered, That  the  said Papers do lie upon  the 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may  have leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Table. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented, pursuant  to  Diseases of 
the  directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  Animals Acts, 
of  Order,  No.  7751,  under  the  Diseases  of 1 8 94  t o   i  m 
Animals  Acts,  1894 to  1903, dated  10th  August 
1909, relative  to the  landing of  Channel  Islands 
Animals  at  Southampton. 

No. 121.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

ISth August. 

389 

Trawling  in 
Prohibited 
Areas 
(Prevention) 
Bill. 

Bill  306. 

(Exemption) 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  made  by  the 
Lords  to  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited  Areas 
(Prevention)  Bill  be  taken  into  consideration 
upon Friday  next;  and  be  printed, 

Ordered,  That  the  adjourned  Debate  on  the 
Question  proposed  upon  the  28th  day of  April 
last, That  the  Dogs  (Exemption)  Bill  be  now 
read  a second  time, be  resumed  upon  Tuesday 
the  7th  day  of  September  next. 

finance  Bill. 

The  House, according to  Order, resolved  itself 

into  a Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  22 (Appeals  to referees). 
Amendment  proposed,  in p,  15,  1. 18, after the 
word  "  appeal,'  to  insert  the  words  "  to  the 
High  Court  of  Justice."—(Lord  Robert Cecil.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Amendments  made. 
A-nother Amendment  proposed, in p.  15,1,  24, 
after  the  word  "  Commissioners,"  to  insert  the 
words "are  required  or."—(Mr. Lambton.) 

Question, That those words  be  there  inserted, 

put, and  negatived. 

Other Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  15,1.  30, 
at  the  end,  to  insert the  words "  Provided  that 
any rules  made  under  this section  shall  be  laid 
before  both  Houses of  Parliament, and if  neither 
House  of Parliament  within thirty  days  passes a 
resolution  adverse to the said  rules they  shall  be 
binding  in  law until varied  in  the  same manner, 
and  shall  have  effect as if  they  were  enacted  in 
this  Act,  and  the  validity  of  any  proceedings 
which  may  in  the  meantime  have  been  taken 
under  any  rules  shall  not  be  prejudiced  by  the 
subsequent  passing  of  a  resolution  adverse  to 
them."—( Sir Edward  Carson.) 

Question  proposed,  That those words  be there 

inserted:—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment proposed, in p.  15, L 32, 

to leave  out paragraph  (a).—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be left out, to the  word  "not,"  in p.  15,  1. 32, 
stand  part  of  the  Clause:—Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  15,  1. 32, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "  not."—(Mr.  Watson 
Rutherford.) 

Question  put,  That  the  word  "  not"  stand 

part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

)
} 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Watson Rutherford, 

( Captain  Norton: 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

1 Mr.  Cave : 

8 4, 

Other Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  16,1. 5, 
after  the word  "  shall,"  to insert  the words "  be 
given  in  the form  provided  by  rules  under  this 
section,  and shall, subject to  appeal  to  the  High 
Court  under  this section."—r(Mr.  Chancellor  of 
the  Exchequer,) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed  to  the proposed  Amend­
ment, in  1. 3,  to  leave out  the  word  "  High."— 
(Mr.  Cave.) 
YOL.   164. 

Question,  That  the word  "  High "  stand  part 
of the proposed  Amendment,  put, and negatived. 
Proposed  words,  as amended, there  inserted. 
A-nother  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  16,1.  6, 
to  leave  out from  the  beginning  to  the  end  of 
1,17,  in order  to insert  the  words "  The  referee 
shall  determine  any  matter  referred  to  him  in 
consultation  with  the  Commissioners  and  the 
appellant, and  ma,y, if  he  thinks  fit,  order  that 
any  expenses  incurred  by  the  appellant  be 
paid  by  the  Commissioners,  and  that  any  such 
expenses incurred  by  the  Commissioners  be paid 
by  the  appellant."  — (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

Question,  That  the words  " If  any  question" 

stand part of  the  Clause, put, and negatived. 

Question proposed, That  those words  be there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed  to the proposed  Amend­
ment,  in  1.  2,  after  the  word  "appellant,"  to 
insert  the words  "  or  any  person  nominated  by 
them for this purpose."—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question,  That  those words  be  there  inserted 
in  the proposed  Amendment, put,  and agreed  to. 
Proposed  words,  as amended, there  inserted. 
Subsequent  words to the  end of  1.  17 left  out. 
Another Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  16,  1. 19, 

at the end, to  add the  words— 

"  (4)  Any person  aggrieved  by  the  decision  of 
the  referee  may  appeal  against  the  decision  to 
the  High  Court,  within  the  time  and  in  the 
manner, and  on  the  conditions  directed  by  rules 
of  court  (including  conditions  requiring  the 
payment  of  or  the  giving  of  security  for  any 
duty  claimed);  and  subsections  two,  three,  and 
four  of  section  ten  of  the  Finance  Act,  1894, 
shall apply  with reference  to  any  such  appeal, 

(5)  Provision  shall  be  made  by  rules  under 
this  section  with  respect  to  the  time  within 
which,  and  the  manner  in  which,  an  appeal 
may be made to a referee  under  this section, and 
with respect  to the mode  in which the referee  to 
whom  any  reference  is  to  be  made  is  to  be 
selected, and with  respect  to  the form  in  which 
any  decision  of a referee  is to  be given, and with 
respect to any  other matter for  which  it  appears 
necessary  or  expedient  to  provide  in  order  to 
carry  this section into  effect. 

Those  rules  shall  be  made  by the  Reference 
Committee,  subject  to  the  approval  of  the 
Treasury. 

The  Reference  Committee  for  England  shall 
consist  of  the  Lord  Chief  Justice  of  England, 
the  Master  of  the  Rolls,  and  the  President  of 
the  Surveyors'  Institution. 

The  Reference  Committee for  Scotland  shall 
consist  of  the  Lord  President  of  the  Court  of 
Session,  the  Lord  Justice  Clerk,  and  the 
President of  the Surveyors'  Institution. 

The  Reference  Committee  for  Ireland  shall 
consist  of the  Lord  Chief Justice  of  Ireland, the 
Master of the Rolls in  Ireland, and the  President 
of the  Surveyors'  Institution, 

The  President  of  the  Surveyors'  Institution 
may, if  he thinks fit, appoint  any person, being a 
member  of  the  council  of  that  institution  and 
having  special  knowledge  of  valuation  in  Scot­
land  or  Ireland, respectively, to  act  in  his  place 
as  a  member  of  the  Reference  Committee  in 
Scotland  or  the  Reference  Committee  in  Ire­
land."—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

Question  proposed, That those words  be there 

added: 

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[No.l2L 

Proposed  words  amended,  in  1. 4, by  leaving 
out the word  "  requiring,"  in order to insert  the 
words  "  enabling  the  court  to  require  "—(Mr. 
Cave);  and in  1. 6, at  the  end,  by  inserting  the 
words  "Provided  that  where  the  total  or  site 
value,  as alleged  by  the  Commissioners,  of  the 
property  in  respect  of  which  the  dispute  arises 
does not exceed five hundred  pounds  the  appeal 
under  this  section  may  be  to  the  county  court 
for  the  county  or  place  in  which  the  appellant 
resides or the property is situate, and this section 
shall  for  the  purpose  of  the  appeal  apply  as  if 
such  county  court  were  the  High  Court."— 
(Mr.  Cave.) 

Another Amendment proposed to the proposed 
Amendment,  as  amended,  in  1.  10,  after  the 
word  "  selected,"  to insert  the words "  so always 
that the referee  shall  be  a  person  having  expe­
rience  in  the  valuation  of  land  or,  as  the  case 
may require, of minerals  in the district  in  which 
the same are situate."—-(Mr. Lambton.) 

Question,  That  the  Clause,  as amended, stand 

part  of  the Bill,  put, and agreed  to. 

Clause  No.  24  (Exemption  of  land  held  by 

rating  authorities). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  16,  1. 29,  to  leave 
out  the  word  "  rating,"  in  order  to  insert  the 
word  " local."—(Mr.  Harmood-Banner.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  rating  " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause :—Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

An  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  16,  1. 29, 
after the word  "  authority,"  to  insert  the  words 
"and  situated  within  the  area  in  which  the 
authoritv  has  power  to  raise  a  rate."—(Mr. 
Holt.) 

Question,  That  those  words be  there  inserted, 

put,  and negatived. 

Another  Amendment  made. 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be there  in­
serted in  the proposed  Amendment,  as amended. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  16,1.  32, 

at the  end, to insert the  words— 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  j Mr.  Lambton, 
|  Mr. Bowles : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the J Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

j  Captain Norton; 

)  82, 
j 
) 
J 

2 1 9; 

Another  Amendment  proposed to the  proposed 
Amendment,  as  amended,  in  1.  14, to  leave  out 
the  words  "  subject  to  the  approval  of  the 
Treasury."—(Sir  Henry  Craik.) 

Question  put, That  the  words  proposed  to  be 
left out stand  part  of  the proposed  Amendment, 
as amended. 

" ( 3  )  No  reversion  duty  under  this  Part  of 
this  Act  shall  be  chargeable  in respect  of  the 
period  during which  any land is held by  a rating 
authority, and  is not  so held  at the  determination 
of the lease of  such land,  and  in  such  event  the 
value  of  the  benefit  accruing  to  the lessor shall 
for  the  purposes  of  this  Part  of  this  Act  be 
deemed to be  the  amount (if  any)  by  which  the 
total  value  of  the  land,  at  the  time  the  lease 
determines,  exceeds  the  amount  of  the  con 
sideration paid  to  the  rating  authority  for  their 
interest  in the reversion."—(Mr.  Peel.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease,
| Captain  Norton :
Tellers  for  the  ( Sir  Henry  Craik,

Yeas, 

Noes, 

| Mr,  George Faber :

)
j  210. 
)
) 

60. 

Proposed  Amendment,  as  amended,  further 
amended,  in  1.  20,  by  leaving  out  the  word 
"President," 
in  order  to  insert  the  words 
"  Chairman  of  the  Scottish  Committee;"  in 
1. 27, by  leaving  out  the  words  "  Scotland  or," 
and  the  word  " respectively  ;"  and  in  Is.  28 
and  29, by  leaving  out  the  words  "  Scotland  or 
the  Reference  Committee  in."—(Mr.  Secretary 
Haldane.) 

Proposed  words, as amended, there  added. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as amended, 

stand part  of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

\ Captain  Norton : 

fSir  Alexander  Acland-

m  n 
r 
Tellers  for the J 
j 
( M r<   j j e n ry   Forster:

tt 
i 
tlooa, 

oes,  

-.J 

203. 

j  53. 

Clause  No.  23  (Appointment  of  referees  to 

hear  appeals). 

Amendments  made.  ; 

. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  16,1.  22, 
at  the  end,  to  insert  the  words  "Provided 
always  that the  Treasury  shall cause  an account 
of  all appointments  of  referees  with  salaries  to 
be laid before  each House  of  Parliament  within 
. twenty days after their appointment  respectively, 
if  Parliament  shall  then  be  sitting,  and  if 
Parliament  shall  not  be  sitting,  then  within 
twenty  days  after  the  next  meeting  of  Par­
liament."—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words  be  there 
j 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn, 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Peel, 

Yeas, 

t  Mr.  Hills : 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton: 

Noes, 

67. 

201. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  16,1.  33, 
after the word  " expression,'  to  insert the  words 
"  local  or."—(Mr.  Harmood-Banner.) 

Question  proposed,  That those words be  there 

inserted  :—-Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  16,1.  34, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "means,"  in  order  to 
insert the words  "  includes the  mayor,  aldermen, 
and burgesses  of  a  borough,  the council  of  any 
county,  urban  or  rural  district,  or parish,  and." 
—(Mr.  Harmood-Banner.) 

Question  proposed.  That  the  word  "  means  " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  25  postponed. 
Clause  No.  26  (Power  to  charge  duty  on 

settled  land in certain  cases). 

Amendment  proposed, in p.  17,1.  14, after the 
first  word  "  land,'  to  insert  the  words  "  or 
minerals."—(Mr. Lambton.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

An  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  17,1.  17, 
after  the  word  "  life,"  to  insert the  words "  or 
any  person  having  the  powers  of  a  tenant  for 
life  within the  meaning  of  the  said  Act,"—(Mr. 
Lane-Fox.) 

Question proposed,  That  those words  be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 

 
 
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Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  17,1.  18, 
after  the  word  "  deed," to  insert  the words  "  or 
deed  poll under his hand and seal."—(Mr. Watson 
Rutherford.') 

Resolved, That this  House  will,  upon  Tuesday 
the 31st day  of this instant August, again resolve 
itself  into the  said  Committee. 

' 

Question,  That  those  words be  there  inserted, 

Resolved,  That this House  do  now  adjourn.—  Adjournment. 

put, and  negatived. 

Other  Amendments  made. 

Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  27 (Definitions). 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  17,  1. 40,  at  the 
end, to  insert  the words  "  or any offices, flats, or 
chambers  above  the ground  floor  or  basement  of 
the  building."—(Mr. Renwick.) 

Question proposed, That  those words be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  17,1.  40, 
at  the  end,  to  insert  the  words "  or buildings  or 
other  structures  on  such  land."—(Sir  Edward 
Carson.)
' 
o 

Question  proposed,  That those  words  be there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

An  Amendment  made. 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  three  minutes  after 
Twelve  of the clock  on Thursday morning, 

adjourned  till this day. 


[No.  122.]  

Thursday,  19th August 1909. 


The  House met  at a quarter  of  an  hour  

before  Three  of the  clock.  


P R A T E R S. 

THE  Order of  the day  being  read, for taking  Dunoon  Burgh 

into  consideration  the  Dunoon  Burgh  Bill  Bill [Lords.)

[Lords'],  as amended  in the  Committee ; 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  18,1.  5, 
to leave out the word "  perpetual."—(Mr.  Watson 
Rutherford.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Tuesday  next,  at  a  quarter  of 
an hour  after  Eight  of the  clock. 

Question proposed, That the word "  perpetual  " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  18,1.  12, 
after  the  word  "money,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  until  the term  becomes  vested  in  some  person 
free  from  any  equity  of  redemption."—(Mr. 
Attorney  General.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
( Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the  [ Yiscount  Helms ley, 

Noes, 

( Mr. Hills : 

1 9 2. 

72. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  18,  1. 12, 
after  the  word  "  money,"  to  insert  the  words 
u  and does not include  a yearly tenancy  of  land." 
—(Mr, Lamhton.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  18,1.  25, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  " by  "  to  the word 
"  a,"  in  1. 27, in  order  to insert  the words  "  this 
Act  or any  fixed  charge  as  defined  by  this  Act, 
or  any  purely  incorporeal  hereditament  (other 
than a profit a prendre not annexed  to  any  other 
land),  or  any  leasehold  interest  under."—(Mr. 
Attorney  General.) 

• Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be left out stand part of  the  Clause : 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Chairman  do report Progress,  and ask  leave 
to  sit  again.—(Sir  Edward  Carson.') 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  made by  the  Labour 
Lords  to  the  Labour  Exchanges  Bill  be  now  Exchanges 
taken  into  consideration.

Bil1­

The  House  accordingly  proceeded  to take  the 
said  Amendments  into  consideration;  and  the 
same were twice  read, and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the Lords;  and acquaint  them  that  this  House 
bath  agreed  to  the Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

• 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and Public 

1 

read ;  and  ordered  to  lie upon the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 
Report. 
Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Dublin 
Command,—Copy  of  Fifty-first  Report  of  the  Hospitals. 
Board  of  Superintendence  of  Dublin  Hospitals, 
for the  year  1908-9. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His London 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the Quarter 
Departmental  Committee  on  the  County  of  ^ X e n t a  i 
London  Quarter  Sessions.  Vol.  1., Report  and  Committee.) 
Appendices.  Vol.  II.,  Minutes   of  Evidence. 

Ordered,  That  the  said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the Foreshores, 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Treasury  Minute,  dated  19th  August  1909, 
directing  the application  of  moneys  received  by 
the  Board  of  Trade,  in  the  year  ended  31st 
March  1909, 
in  respect  of  the  rights  and 
interests  of  the  Crown  in the  Foreshores  of  the 
United  Kingdom. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

• 

Thursday, 19th August  1909 : 

Table. 

Question  put, and agreed  to. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed the  Chair ;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the 
Bill;  and that he was directed  to move, That  the 
Committee  may have leave  to  sit again. 

V O L.  164. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Africa 

His  Majesty's  Command, —  COOT  of  Despatch^ 0 , 3' 1909.) 
from  His  Majesty's  Agent  and  Consul  General 
at Zanzibar  transmitting  a new  Slavery  Decree. 
Signed  at Zanzibar, 9th June  1909. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do  lie unon  the 

Table. 

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1909. 


Bailway 

Ordered, That there be  laid before this  House 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  those  words 

a  Return  showing  in  detail  the  amounts  eon-
(CharftaWe 
and other 
tributed  by  the  Railway  Companies  of  the 
Contributions,  TJnited  Kingdom,  during  the  year  1908,  to 
institutions  and associations  of  various  character 
not  directly  controlled  by  the  Companies,  and 
not for the exclusive  benefit  of  the  Companies' 
servants.—(Mr.  Churchill.) 

Local 
Committee
(Special 
Keport.) 

Mr.  Charles  Nicholson  reported  from  the 
  Legislation  Committee;  That  they  had 
L o c al
considered  the  Bills  referred  to  them,  and 
directed  him  to  make  a  Special  Report  to  the 
House. 

No. 260. 

Ordered, That the  Special  Report  do lie  upon 

the Table;  and be  printed. 

No. 260. 

Ordered, That  the Minutes of  the Proceedings 

of  the Committee  be  printed. 

Infant  Life 
Protection 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Infant  Life  Protection  Bill 

be read  a second  time  to-morrow. 

Workmen's 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented  a  Bill  to 

t h  e 

raaking 

(Angto-yiench  a u t h o r i s  e 
Convention) 
Bill. 

°f  such  modifications  in 
the  Workmen's  Compensation  Act,  1906, in  its 
application  to French  citizens,  as  may  be  neces-
Bill 307.  sary  to give  effect  to a  Convention  between  His 
Majesty  and  the  President  of  the  French 
Republic  : And  the same was ordered to be read 
a  second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and  to  be 
printed. 

Coal  Mines 
Emulation 

Bill 308 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented  a  Bill  to 
t h  e  C o a  l  Mines  Regulation  Act,  1908, 
a m e n  d 
a s  r e s P e c ts   reckoning  the  period  of  twenty-four 
hours  therein  referred  to:  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be  read  a second  time upon  Monday 
next;  and to  be  printed. 

Business of 
the  House 
B i i T [ ^ 5  )  Eleven  of  the  clock  this  night,  be  not  inter­

Ordered, That  the Proceedings  on  the  South 
Africa  Bill  [Lords1,   if  under  consideration  at 

rupted  under  the  Standing  Order  (Sittings  of 
the  House),—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

South «Airica 
Bill  [Lords.-]  ^ 

The  House,  according to  Order, resolved itself 

a  C o m m i t t ee   o n  the  South  Africa  Bill 

[Lords']. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.  1 to  No.  23  agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  24 

(Original  constitution  of 

Senate). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  5,1.  1, after  the 
word  "  nominated,"  to  insert  the  words  "  four 
by  the  Governor  General  and  four." —  (Sir 
Charles  Dilke.) 

Question  proposed, That  those words be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another.  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  5,1.  8, 
leave  out  the  word  "  reasonable."—(Mr. 

to 
George Greenwood.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  reason­
able "  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—Amendment, 
by leave,  withdrawn. 
Clause  agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  25 agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  26 (Qualifications  of  senators).  

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  6,1.  15, after  the  

word  "subject,"  to  insert  the  words  "and  if 
representing  the  province  of  Transvaal  or 
Orange  Free  State."—(Mr.  Barnes.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words be  there 

inserted  :—Debate  arising; 

Mr.  Arthur  Henderson  rose  in  his  place  and  

claimed to  move, That  the  Question be now put. 

Question,  That  the  Question  be  now  put, put, 


a n d  agreed  to. 
° 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

be there  inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Barnes, 

)  55. 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Charles Duncan :  f 

Tellers for the j  Captain  Norton, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 

Clause  agreed  to. 
Clauses  No.  27  to  No.  33  agreed  to. 

155. 

Clause  No.  34 

(Increase  of  number  of 

members). 

Amendment  proposed,  in p,  7,  1. 28, to  leave 
out the  words  "  European  male  adults," in  order 
to  insert the word "  voters."—(Mr.  Keir Hardie.) 
Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to  be left out stand part of the Clause  :—Amend­
ment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 7,1.  28, 
after  the  word  "adults,"  to  insert  the  words 
"and  other  British  subjects  qualified  to  vote 
in  the  election  of  members  under this  Act."— 
(Mr.  Ellis  Griffith.) 

Question proposed, That  those  words be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave, withdrawn. 

Clause  agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  35  (Qualifications  of  voters). 
Amendment  proposed, in p.  8,1.  39, after the 
word  " persons,"  to  insert  the  words  "  either 
male or female."—(Mr. Snowden.) 

Question  proposed, That  those words  be  there 

inserted: —Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  8,  1. 41, 
after the  word  "  Hope,"  to  insert  the  words  "  or 
. 
the province  of  Natal."—(Mr.  Keir  Hardie.) 
Question  proposed, That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,  1. 5, 
to  leave  out from the  word  "  colour "  to the end 
of the  Clause—(Mr.  Ellis  Griffith.) 

Question  proposed, That  the words  proposed 
to  be  left  out,  to the  word  "  both,"  in p.  9,  1. 5, 
stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,  1. 5, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  by "  to  the  word 
"  A ,"  in  1. 8,  in  order  to  insert  the  words ' ' the 
members  representing  the  province of  the  Cape 
of  Good  Hope  in  both  Houses  sitting  together, 
and  at  the  Third  Reading  be  agreed  to  by  not 
less  than  two-thirds  of  the  total  number  of 
such members."—(Mr.  Essex.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be left out stand part of the Clause  :—Amend­
ment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,  1. 9, 
at  the  end, to insert the words "but  no  such law 
shall  become  operative  until  it  has  been  sanc­
tioned  by  an  Act   of  the  Imperial  Parliament." 
—(Mr.  Lupton.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,  1. 9, 
at  the  end,to  insert  the  words  "but  any  such 
Bill  shall  be reserved  by  the  Governor  General 
for  the  signification  of  the  King's  pleasure 
thereon."—(Mr.  George Greenwood.) 

Question proposed," That those  words  be there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause agreed  to. 
Clauses  No.  36  to  No.  63 agreed  to. 

Clause  No.  64  (Royal  Assent  to  Bills). 

 
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393 


Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  17,1. 4,  after the 
word  "  subject,"  to  insert  the  words  "  and  all 
Bills  which  in any  way  affect native  territories." 
—(Mr.  Barnes.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be there 

inserted  :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause  agreed  to. 
Clauses  No.  65 to  No.  105 agreed  to. 
Clauses  No.  106 to  No.  122 agreed  to. 
Clauses  No.  123 to  No.  150 agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  151 (Power  to  transfer  to  Union 

government  of  native  territories). 

Amendment  proposed}  in  p.  38,  1. 29,  at  the 
beginning, to insert  the  words " A t  a period  not 
less than ten years after the  passing of  this  Act, 
and  subject  to  the  consent  of  the  territories 
affected, expressed  in a manner to  be  determined 
by  the  King  with  the  advice  of  the  Privy 
Council."—(Mr.  Keir  Hardie.) 

Question proposed,  That those  words  be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  152  (Amendment  of  Act). 
Amendment  proposed,  in p. 39,1.  12, after the 
word  "  seven," to  insert  the  words  " o  r  in  the 
Schedule to this Bill."—(Mr.  Charles Duncan.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  : — Amendment,  by  leave, withdrawn. 

Clause  agreed  to. 
Schedule. 
Amendment proposed, in  p. 40,  1. 21, after the 
word  "appointed,"  to  insert  the  words  "as  to 
two  by  the  Governor  General,  and  as  to  the 
remainder."—(Mr.  Ellis Griffith.) 

Question,  That  those  words be  there  inserted, 

put, and  negatived. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 42,1.  29, 
at  the  end, to  insert  the  words  "  nor shall  tribal 
tenure of  the land  be interfered  with, nor  titles 
to  hold  land  be  granted  to  other  than  members 
of the native tribes inhabiting  those  territories.'' 
—(Mr.  Keir  Hardie.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 42,  I. 35, 
at the end, to  insert  the  words  and  such  pitso 
or  other  form  of  native  assembly  recognised 
under this  Act  shall  be consulted  concerning  the 
framing  of  all  laws  or  regulations  affecting  the 
tribe."—(Mr.  Keir  Hardie.) 

Question  proposed,  That those words  be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 42,  1. 41, 

at the end, to insert the  words— 

"  19.  No  new tax  or  increase  of  any  existing 
tax  shall  be  made  by proclamation, unless  such 
proclamation  shall  have  been  laid  before  and 
considered  by  the  pitso  or  other  national 
assembly  of  every  territory  affected  thereby, 
and  unless  such  proclamation  shall, prior  to  its 
promulgation,  be  approved  by two-thirds  of  the 
total  number  of  members of  both  Houses of  the 
Union  Parliament  at  a  joint  sitting." —  (Mr. 
Ellis  Griffith.) 

Question proposed,  That those  words  be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave, withdrawn. 

Schedule  agreed  to. 
Preamble agreed  to. 
Bill to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 

V O L.  164. 

the  Committee  had  gone  through  the  Bill, 
and  directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be now read  the  third 
time :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read the  third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed to  the same, without  Amendment. 

And 

the  House  having  continued  to  sit 
till  after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Friday 
morning; 

Friday,  20th August  1909  : 

Mr.  Burns  reported  from  the  Committee  on  Customs and 

Customs  and  Inland  Revenue  [Stamp  Duties, inland 
&c.]  a  Resolution;  which  was  read,  as  fol- E e v e n ue 
loweth : 

That,  in  pursuance  of  the  provisions  of  any 
Act  of  the  present  Session  to  amend  the  Law 
relating  to  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue,  it  is 
expedient— 

(1)  to discontinue  in certain cases the payment 


of  drawback  on tobacco  refuse  ;  


(2)	  to  discontinue  certain 

limitations  and 
exemptions  from  stamp duty  allowed  under  

the  Stamp Act,  1891  ;  


(3)  to	  discontinue  the  allowance  of  discount  

on  the  prepayment  of  income  tax,  and  to  

limit  the  amount  of  the  deduction  on 
account  of rates  to  be  allowed  in assessing  

to  income  tax 
tithe  rent-charge  to  the  

amount of  rates actually  paid.  


The  said Resolution, being read a second  time, 

was  agreed  to. 

Mr.  Whitley reported from  the  Committee  on  Secretary  of 
Secretary  of  the  Board  of  Agriculture  and *he Poard of 
Fisheries 
read,  as followeth : 

[Salary]  a  Resolution;  which  was aifd'Fisheries 

[Salary.] 

That  it is expedient  to  authorise the payment, 
out  of  moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of  the 
salary  of  a second  Secretary, in pursuance of  any 
Act   of  the  present  Session  to  enable  a second 
Secretary  to  be  appointed  for  the  Board  of 
Agriculture  and  Fisheries. 

The  said Resolution,  being  read a second time, 

was agreed  to. 

The House,  according to  Order, resolved itself  Secretary  of 
,Bo?rd of 
Fisheries 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Secretary  of  the 
Board  of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

BiU" 

Clauses  No.  1 and  No.  2 agreed  to. 
Bill  to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  gone  through  the  Bill, 
and  directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  now  read the  third 
time:—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the third 
time  and passed. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire  their  concurrence. 

The  House,  according to Order, resolved itself  Assistant 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Assistant  Postmaster 
General  Bill.	  

General BUI. 

(In  the  Committee.)  


Clauses  No.  1 and  No.  2 agreed  to.  


Bill  to  be  reported. 

3	  E 





19lh—%0th  August 

1909. 

[No.128. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair  ;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  gone  through  the  Bill, 
and  directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third time 

this  day. 

Superannua-
tion  Bill. 

The  Superannuation  Bill  was,  according  to 

Order, read the third  time  and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

Marine 
The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Marine  Insurance 
insurance 
P o i i d  S  BgiH.  (Gambling  Policies)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Standing  Committee. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  now read  the third 
time  :—The  Bill was accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and passed. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
Telegraph 
(Arbitration)   i n t  0  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee)  ; 

1  ' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

Electric 
The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to 
Lighting Acts  take  into  consideration  the  Electric  Lighting 
  (Amendment)  Bill  [Lords],  as amended  in 
K H S  ^  T

  A c ts

the  Standing  Committee. 

A  Clause  was  offered to  be added to  the  Bill 
(Prohibiting  unauthorised  undertakers  from 
competing  with  statutory  undertakers).—(Mr. 
Scott  Dickson.) 

And  the  said Clause was brought  up, and read 

the first and second  time. 

And  a  Motion  being made,  and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Clause  be  added  to 
the  Bill:—And  a Debate  arising  thereupon  ; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  put, That the Debate  be  now  adjourned— 
(Mr. Holt)  :—It was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  this 

day. 

House Letting 
and Bating 
Bill 

The  Order of  the  day being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration the House  Letting  and  Rating 
(Scotland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 
Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this day. 

Rule 
Committee 
Bill. 

The  Rule  Committee  Bill  was, according  to 

Order, read  the  third time  and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire  their  concurrence. 

Bridgend 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Hope  English  Third  Reading  of  the  Bridgend  (Hope  English 
^Chapel, &c.)  Baptist  Chapel,  &c.)  Charity  Bill; 
Charity Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  the  third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

John 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Marshall^  Third  Reading of John  Marshall's  Charity  Bill; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read the  third time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dewsbury 

Third  Reading  of  the  Dewsbury  and  Batley 
Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill; 

Chapel 

° 

Ordered, That the  Bill be  read  the  third  time  Charities  Bill, 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Wortley 

Third  Reading  of  the  Wortley  Congregational  £™^s ational 
Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

Charity Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the  third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  Metropolitan 
to  take  into  consideration  the  Metropolitan  Ambulances 
Ambulances  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing 
Committee. 

And  an  Amendment  was made to  the  Bill. 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  now  read  the  third 
time :—1The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Order of the day being  read, for  resuming  Sale of 
the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment which,  Intoxicating 
upon the 25th day  of June  last, was proposed  to  Sunday  Bin. 
be  made  on  consideration  of  the  Sale  of  Intoxi­
cating  Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill,  as  amended  in 
the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read,  for  taking  Licensed 
into  consideration  the  Licensed  Premises  (Elec-  itemises 
tion  Days)  Closing  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Days)'closing 
Standing  Committee; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken 

into  con­

sideration  this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Bishopric  of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield  Sheffield Bill. 
Bill,  as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

The  House,  according to Order, resolved  itself  Asylums 
into  a  Committee  on  the  Asylums  Officers' Officers' 
Superannuation  (recommitted)  Bill. 

tionTm""9' 

(In  the  Committee.)  

Clauses  No.  1 to  No.  5 agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  6 disagreed  to.  

Clauses  No.  7 to  No,  10 agreed  to.  


Clause  No.  11 amended, and agreed  to.  

Clauses  No.  12 to  No.  14 agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  15 amended, and agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  16 amended,  and agreed  to.  

Clauses  No.  17 to  No.  19 disagreed  to.  

Clauses  No.  20 and  No.  21  agreed  to.  

Schedule  agreed  to.  

Bill,  as amended, to be  reported.  


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the  

Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported,  That  

the  Committee  had gone  through  the  Bill.  


Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Bill 309.  


Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  upon 
Tuesday  next;  and  be  printed.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Lichfield and 
Longdon 
Third  Reading  of  the  Lichfield  and  Longdon 
c h a p e l "  1  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust  Property 
Trust Property  Charity  Bill; 
Charity Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read the third time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Burial Places 
Second  Reading  of  the  Burial  Places  (Exemp-  (Exemption 
tion  from  Rates)  (Scotland)  Bill;  
(Scotland? 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Thursday  the  9th day of  September  next. 



No. 122.] 

9  E D W.  Y I I. 

Special  Land 
Tenures Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Special  Land  Tenures 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Friday  the  3rd  day  of  September  next. 

19 th—20th  August. 

395 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Wild  Birds 
Second  Reading  of  the  Wild  Birds  Protection Protection 
Bill; 

BlU-

Settled  Land 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Settled  Land  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon Friday  the 3rd  day  of  September  next. 

Conveyancing 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Conveyancing  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Friday  the 3rd  day  of  September  next. 

t'olice  Super-
annuation 
(Scotland) 
(No. 2)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Superannuation 
(Scotland)  (No."2)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  pf  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Education 
(Conditions  Oi  Second  Reading  of  the  Education  (Conditions 
Grant)  BUI.  

o f   Q r a n t)  B iU 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Tuesday next. 

Salmon, 
Kiver'Tweed 
Fisheries Biil.  River  Tweed  Fisheries  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
S e c o n  d  Reading  of  the  Salmon,  Trout,  and 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  1st day of  September  next. 

Sea Fisheries 
Regulation 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading of  the  Sea Fisheries  Regulation 
(Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Factory  and  Workshop 

Factory and 
Workshop 
Act  (1901) 
Amendment  Act  (1901)  Amendment  (No.   2)  Bill; 
(No. 2)  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Tuesday next. 

The  Order of the  day  being read, for resuming 
Local 
Government 
the adjourned  Debate  on the  Question  proposed 
ffgia°nd  and  upon  the  7th  day  of  May  last,  That  the  Local 
Wales) Bill.  Government  Qualification  (England  and  Wales) 

Bill be  now read a second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate  be further adjourned 

till  Tuesday  next. 

Wild Animals 
in  Captivity 
Protection 
(Scotland) 

Bill. 


The  Wild  Animals  in  Captivity  Protection 
(Scotland)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order, read  a 
second  time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Monday 
next.—(Mr.  Dundas  White.) 

Ambulances 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Metropolis)  Second  Reading of the  Ambulances  (Metropolis) 
Bill. 

Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second time 
upon  Thursday  the 2nd day  of  September  next. 

Public  Health 
Apt  (1875) 
Amendment 
(Water 
Rights)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Public  Health  Act 
(1875)  Amendment  (Water  Rights)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Dogs' 
Protection 
Bill. 


T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for 
Second  Reading   of  the  Dogs'  Protection  B i l l;  


the 

VOL.  164. 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Eleven  of 
the  clock  on  Thursday  evening,  Mr. 
Speaker  adjourned  the  House  without  

Question  put,  pursuant  to  the  Standing  

Order,  it being  then a  quarter of  an hour 

after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Friday 
morning, till this  day.  


[No.  123.] 

Friday,  20th August 1909. 

The  House met  at Twelve of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

THE  House  proceeded  to  take into  considera-  Glasgow 

tion  the  Glasgow  Corporation  Bill  [Lords],  Corporation 

as amended  in the  Committee. 

BU1 

And  Amendments  were made  to the  Bill. 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read the third time. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and  Public 

read ;  and ordered to lie  upon  the  Table. 

v 

Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 
Report. 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc-  Intermediate 

tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  was  laid  upon  Education 
the  Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House:—  (Ir^and9)f.1 
Accounts  of  Receipts  and  Expenditure  of  the 
Intermediate  Education  Board  for  Ireland  for 
the  year  ended  31st  December  1908 ;  together 
with  the  Report of  the  Comptroller  and  Auditor 
General  thereon. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  be printed. 

A  Motion  was  made,  and the  Question  being  Business of 
put,  That  for  the  remainder  of  the  Session  the House 
Government  Business  be  not  interrupted  under  BUSST"' 
the provisions of  any  Standing  Order  regulating 
the  Sittings  of  the  House,  and may  be entered 
upon  at  any  hour  though  opposed,  and  have 
precedence  at  every  Sitting;  that  at  the  con­
clusion  of  Government  Business  each  day  Mr. 
Speaker  do  adjourn  the House without  Question 
put;  that  on Fridays  the  House,  unless it other­
wise  resolves,  shall  at its rising  staild  adjourned 
till  the  following Monday;  and that no  Motions 
be made  to  bring  in Bills under  Standing  Order 
No.  11 —(The  Prime  Minister)  ; 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to  the  Right;  

The  Noes to  the  Left.  

Tellers  for the (Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fuller: 
Tellers for the) Mr.  Bowles, 

Noes, 

(Mr,  Raiolinson: 

So it  was resolved  in the  Affirmative.  


99. 

27. 


/ 
1 
J 

The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to  House Letting 

take  into  consideration  the  House  Letting  and and  Rating 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the g^otland) 
Standing  Committee. 

An  Amendment  was made to  the  Bill. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
to  the  Bill,   in  p.  1,  1.  9,  by  leaving  out  the  word 

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2 0th   August. 

1909. 

[No. 123. 

"  a,"  and  inserting  the  words  "  an unfurnished  " 
—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 

"  a "  stand part of  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

l Mr.  Whitley. 
Tellers for the f Sir  Frederick Banbury,  ) 
j 

(Mr.  Lamont •. 

Noes, 

j 
J 

90. 

24. 

So it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to be  made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1.  11,  by  leaving  out  the 
words  "twenty-one,"  and  inserting  the  word 
fifteen"—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury),—-instead
" 
thereof. 

And the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 

"  twenty-one "  stand part of the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Captain Norton, 

„„ 

) 
f 

Yeas, 

|  Mr.  Whitley. 
Tellers for the  ( Sir Frederick Banbury, {  ^Q
(Mr.  Gibson: 

Noes, 

j 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to the Bill, in p. 4,1.  10, by leaving out Clause 12. 
— (Mr.  Scott  Dickson.) 

And  the  Question being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be left out,  to  the  word  "  dwelling-
houses," in p. 4,1.  12, stand part of the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the (Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Fuller: 

Tellers for  the fMr.  Henry Forster, 

"1  0Q
f 
\  ^Q

Noes, 

(Marquess  of  Hamilton  :  J 

So it was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 4,1. 34, by  inserting, after the 
word  "  be,"  the  words  "  failing  agreement."— 
—(Mr.  Watt.) 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  those words 
be there inserted  in  the  Bill:—It  passed  in  the 
Negative. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  4,  1.  40,  by leaving  out  the 
word  "  final,"  and  inserting  the words "  subject 
to appeal  at the instance of  any owner interested 
to  either  division  of  the  Court  of  Session"— 
(Mr.  Scott Dickson),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the word 
"  final"  stand part of  the Bill  :—It  was  resolved 
in  the Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to the Bill,  in  p.  5,  1.  3,  by  inserting,  after the 
word  " election,"  the  words  "  Provided  that 
any  occupier  who  shall  have  failed,  before  the 
twentieth  day of June  in  any year, to  pay  to the 
owner  of  any  dwelling-house  occupied  by  him 
during  the  year  ending  on  the  fifteenth  day 
of  May  preceding  any  assessment  which  such 

owner  was  entitled  to  recover  from  him  during 
the  currency  of  that  year  under  the  provisions 
of  this  Act,  or  who  shall  have  been  exempted 
from  payment  of  any  burgh  rate  during  the 
currency  of  that  year,  shall,  ipso  facto,  be 
disqualified  from being  registered  as  a  voter  or 
TO vote  at  any  parliamentary  or  other  election. 
It  shall be the  duty  of  every owner  to  whom any 
occupier  shall have  failed  to  pay  any  assessment 
as  aforesaid,  on  or  before  the  thirtieth day  of 
June  in each year, to  forward  to  the  collector  of 
the  assessing authority  a statement  of  the names 
and  addresses  of  all  such  defaulting  occupiers, 
and  the  collector  shall,  along  with  a  list  of 
the  occupiers  who  have  been  exempted  from 
payment  of  any  assessment  during  the  currency 
of  that  year, forthwith  forward  such  statement 
to the  assessor,  who  shall proceed  in the manner 
directed  by  section  twenty-eight  of  the  Town 
Councils (Scotland)  Act, 1900/'—(Sir  Frederick 
Banbury.) 

And  the  Question being  put, That those  words 

be there inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers for the  ( Sir Frederick Banbury, ) 
j 

<  Sir  Henry  Craik; 

Yeas, 

^ 

Tellers for the j  Captain  Norton,

Noes, 

( Mr.  Fuller  : 
So  it passed in  the  Negative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

80. 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to the  Bill,  in p.  7,1.  16,  by inserting,  after  the 
word  "  burgh,"  the  words  "  and the adoption  of 
this  Act  may  be  similarly  rescinded." —  (Sir 
Frederick  Banbury.) 

And the Question  being  put, That  those words 

be  there inserted  in  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Sir  Frederick Banbury,

Yeas, 

(Sir  Henry  Craih
Tellers for the fCaptain  Norton,

Noes, 

IMr.  Fuller:

^ 

73 

  1
j 
1
I 

So it passed in the  N egative. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  now read the third 
time:—The  Bill  was accordingly  read the  third 
time  and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and  desire their  concurrence. 

The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Trawling  in 

take  into  consideration  the  Amendments made 
by  the  Lords  to  the  Trawling  in  Prohibited  (Prevention) 
Areas  (Prevention)  Bill;  and  the  same  were  Bill, 
twice  read, and agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed to  the Amendments  made by  their 
Lordships. 

The  Order  of the day being  read, for resuming  Electric 

the adjourned  Debate  on the  Question  proposed  Lighting  Acts 
upon  the  19th  day  of  this  instant  August,  on  sm^i^sf] 
consideration  of  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts 
Amendment  Bill  [Lords],  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee  ; 

Which  Question  was,  That  the  Clause  (Pro­
hibiting  unauthorised  undertakers  from  com­
peting  with  statutory  undertakers)— 

 
 
 
No. 12a]  9  E D W.   V I I. 

20th  August. 

3 97 

"  Where  in  any area  a  local  authority, com 
pany, or person is authorised  to  supply electricity 
under  Act  of  Parliament,  or  under  licence  or 
Provisional  Order  granted  under  the  Electric 
Lighting  Acts,  it  shall not, after the passing  of 
this Act,  be lawful for any other local  authority, 
company,  or  person  to  commence  to  supply, 
distribute,  or  transmit  electricity  within  the 
same  area  unless  such  supply,  distribution,  or 
transmission  is authorised by  Act  of  Parliament, 
or  by  licence  or  Provisional  Order  granted  in 
terms of  the Electric  Lighting  Acts.  Provided 
that this section  shall not prevent  any  company 
or  person  from  affording  a  supply  of  electrical 
energy  to  any  other  company  or person  where 
the business  of  the company  or  person affording 
the  supply  is  not primarily  that of  the  supply  of 
electrical  energy  to  consumers,"  which was read 
a  second  time  upon the  19th day  of  this  instant 
August,  be added to  the  Bill; 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed :— 
The  House  resumed  the said adjourned  Debate. 
And  the  Question  being put:—It was resolved 

in  the Affirmative. 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made to 
the Bill,  in  p.  4,  1.  13,  by  inserting,  after  the 
word  "  canal,"  the  words  "  and  may also, with 
the  consent  of  the  Board  of  Trade, supply  at 
any point  within that  area  electricity  for  use  at 
docks  situate  partly  within  and  partly  without 
that area."—(Mr.  William Thome.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted  in the  Bill  :—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  Amendments  were  made  to  the  Bill. 
Ordered, That the  Bill be now  read  the  third 
time :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and passed, with  Amendments. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed  to  the same, with  Amendments;  to 
which this  House  doth desire the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 


Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill;  

Accounts) 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time ^ r e l a n d) BiU­

upon Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  dav  being  read,  for  the Lunacy 

Second  Reading of the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill; 

(Ireland)  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Merchandise 
Second  Reading  of  the  Merchandise  Marks (Ireland)  Bill. 
(Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next* 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Fisheries 
Second Reading of the Fisheries  (Ireland)  Bill;  (Ireland)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Weeds and 
' 
tura

Second  Reading  of  the  Weeds and Agricultural  |^|°u'
Seeds  (Ireland)  Bill; 

(Iceland)  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

T he  O r d er   o f  the  d ay  b e i ng  r e a d,  f or  t he  Dublin  Police 

Second  Reading  of  the Dublin  Police  Bill;  

Bm-

Ordered, That  the  BilL be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Expiring Laws 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con- ^ t i n u a n o  e 
tinuance  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish Land  


Committee  on the  Irish  Land  Bill  ; 

Bm-


Resolved, That  this House  will, upon  Monday  


next, resolve  itself  into the  said  Committee.  


Assistant
Postmaster
General Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Third  Reading  of  the  Assistant  Postmaster 
G e n e ral  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read the third time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Committee  on the  Housing, Town  Planning, &c. 
Bill ; 

. 
Planning, 
BiU 


&c. 

Resolved, That this  House  will, upon  Monday  


next, resolve  itself into the said  Committee.  


Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on the  Customs and Inland  Revenue 
Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking London 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill  Emotions  Bil'. 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee) ; 

Resolved, That this House  will,  upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself  into the  said  Committee. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Telegraph 
(Ai-bitration) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee) ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort- °°™cils 
gages  Bill; 

Bin. g a 8° S 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Cinemato­
graph Bill. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on the  Question  proposed 
upon  the 21st  day of  April  last,  That the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be now read  a second  time ; 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

till  Monday  next. 

Child Murder 
(Trial) Bill 
[Lords.~\ 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [.Lords]; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  f or  t he  Places 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship ^Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  Bill; 
  (Enfranchise­
ment) Bill. 

1

Ordered, That  the  said  Order  be  discharged.  

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  withdrawn.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the London 
Second  Reading  of  the  London  Electric  Supply  Electric 
B i  u  .

  Supply Bill. 

!  ±  J

Ordered, That  the said  Order be  discharged.  

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  withdrawn.  


3  E  3  


 
 




 
398 	

20th—23rd  August. 

1909. 

[No. 124. 

Election  of 
Municipal 
Boroughs Bill,  in  Municipal  Boroughs  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Heading  of  the  Election  of  Aldermen 

Ordered, That the  said  Order  be  discharged. 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His  Ordnance 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Survey-
Progress  of  the  Ordnance  Survey  to  the  31st 
March  1909, 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Established 
Church 
(Wales)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Established  Church 
(Wales)  Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the said  Order be  discharged. 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Buildings  and 
WorksBmg  Second  Reading of  the  Buildings and  Engineer­

°r 

ing  Works  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  said  Order be  discharged. 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Milk  and 
Dairies  Bill.  Second  Reading  of the  Milk  and Dairies  Bill; 
Ordered, That the  said Order  be  discharged. 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be withdrawn. 

Check-
weighing  in 
variou? 
Industries 
Bill. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of the Checkweighingin various 
Industries  Bill;  


Ordered, That  the said  Order  be  discharged. 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

Houses of 
Parliament 
Bill. 

The  Order of the day  being  read, for resuming 
the adjourned  Debate  on the Amendment  which, 
upon  the  20th  day  of  April  last, was proposed 
to be  made  to the  Question,  That  the  Houses  of 
Parliament  Bill be now read  a second  time ; 

Ordered, That  the  said  Order  be  discharged. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

Mr.  Churchill presented, —Return to an Order.  Exports  and 

dated  the  13th  day  of  July  last,  for  a  Return 
relative  to  Exports  and  Imports  ((Jnited  King- Kingdom.) 
d o m ) - 

No. 262. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  19th  day  of Bailway 
this  instant  August,  for  a  Return  relative  to  Companies 
Railway  Companies  (Charitable  and  other  Con- and^ther 6 
tributions,  1908). 

Contributions, 
1908  ) 

Ordered, That the said Returns  do lie  upon the   K n   2 6 3. 

N o.

Table ;  and  be  printed. 

The  following  Paper  was laid upon  the  Table  Inquiry  into 

by the  Clerk  of  the House:—Further  Return  to  Charities 
an  Order,  dated  the  28th  day  of  March  1905,
 K  f 
for  a  Return  relative  to  Inquiry  into  Charities  N o.  264. 
(County  of  Berks). 

Ordered, That  the  said  Return be  printed 

Thomas  Scanlan,  Esquire,  Member  f or  t he  New  Members 

sworn. 

County  of  Sligo  (North  Sligo),  was sworn 

Mattheio  Keating,  Esquire,  Member  for  the 
County  of  Kilkenny  (South  Kilkenny),  was 
sworn. 

Sir  William Bull,  supported  by  Mr.  Henniher Contributory 
Heaton  and  Mr.  Hart-Davies,  presented  a  Bill  Annuities  Bin. 
to  establish  a  system  of  Life  Annuities  for
persons  over  Fifty-five:  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be  read a second  time upon  Monday 
next;  and  to  be printed. 

B l 1 1 3 0 9 ­

Shops (No. 2) 
BlU" 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of the  Shops (No.  2)  Bill; 

The House, according to  Order, resolved  itself  Irish  Land 

into a  Committee  on the  Irish  Land  Bill.

B,u­

Ordered, That  the said Order  be  discharged. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put, pursuant  to 
the  Order  of  the  House  of  this  day, it 
being  then  one  minute  after Five  of  the 
clock, till  Monday  next. 

[No.  124.] 

Monday,  23rd August  1909. 

The  House  met at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

Absence. 

Mr.  Speaker's  	 THE  House  being met, the Clerk  at the  Table 

informed  the  House  of  the  unavoidable 
absence from this  day's  Sitting  of  Mr. Speaker : 
—Whereupon  Mr.  Emmott,  the  Chairman  of 
Ways  and  Means,  proceeded  to  the  Table, 
and,  after  Prayers,  took  the  Chair  as  Deputy 
Speaker, pursuant  to  the  Standing  Order. 

Prayers. 	

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Report. 
Trade  Beports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon  the  Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey presented, by His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic and 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos. 4327  to 
4331. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  14  (Exclusion  from  provisions  as 

to  zones). 

Amendment  proposed,  to leave  out  subsection 

(1).—(Mr.  Lonsdale.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  Where  " 

stand  part of  the  Clause : 

And  it being  half  an hour  after  Seven  of  the  Chairman 
clock,  the  Chairman  proceeded,  pursuant  to P l l t8  Question 
the  Order  of  the  House of  the  15th day  of  June g S S  S  to 
last,  to  put  forthwith  the  Question  on  the  Order of  the 
Amendment  already  proposed  from  the  Chair.  House.) 

Question  put,  That  the word  "  Where " stand 

part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the f Captain Norton,

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fuller: 

Tellers for  the/ Mr. Lonsdale,
(Mr.  Gordon-. 

Noes, 

177. 

29. 

f 

The  Chairman  then  proceeded  successively  to  Chairman 
put forthwith  the  Questions necessary  to  dispose j "rtlwitif10' 8 
of  the  Clauses  to  be  concluded  at  half  an  hour  (pursuant  to 
after  Seven  of  the  clock  this  day,  and  on  any  Order of  the 
Amendments  thereto  moved  by  the  Govern- House.) 
ment  of  which  notice  had been  given. 

Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the (Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

I Mr. Fuller : 

Tellers  for the/Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

IMr.  Henry  Forster : 

•  177. 

29. 

Clause  No.  15  (Limitation  on  amount  of 

advances  to tenant  purchasers). 

No. 124.J  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

23rd

August 

3 99 

An  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  8,  1. 38, 
after  the word  "  holding,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  entered  into  after  the  passing of  this  Act."— 
(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Question  put, That the  Amendment  be made. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the I Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

IMr.  Fuller  : 

Tellers  for the/Mr.  Lonsdale,

Noes, 

(Mr.  Moore:

179. 

"i 
J 

30. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part  of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the (Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers for thej Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

IMr.  Henry  Forster:  


|  173. 

|  30. 

Clause  No.  16 (Prohibition  of  advance).  

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for thef Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers for the/Viscount  Valentia, 
IMr.  Henry  Forster : 

Noes, 

175. 

30. 

Clause  No.  17  (Advances  for  purchase  of 

parcels of  land). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,  1. 15, to  leave 

out  subsection  (1).—(Mr.  Lonsdale.) 

Question proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "parcels,"  in p.  9, 
1. 17, stand part of the  Clause  : 

And  it  being  half  an  hour  after  Ten  of  the 
Chairman 
puts Question  clock,  the  Chairman  proceeded,  pursuant  to 
forthwith 
the  Order  of  the  House of  the  15th  day of  June 
(pursuant to 
last,  to  put  forthwith  the  Question  on  the 
Order of  the 
Amendment  already  proposed  from the  Chair. 
House.) 

Question put. That  the  words  proposed  to  be 
left  out,  to  the  word  "parcels,"  in  p.  9,1.  17, 
stand part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fuller: 

Tellers  for the/Mr.  Lonsdale, 

Noes, 

(.Mr. Hugh  Barrie: 

177. 

\ 
J 
"1  ^ 
J 

Chairman 
The  Chairman then  proceeded,  successively  to 
puts Questions  put forthwith the  Questions necessary  to dispose 
(puMuant to  
t h  e  Clauses to  be  concluded  at  half  an hour 
Order  of  the  after  Ten  of  the  clock  this  day,  and  on  any 
Amendments  thereto  moved  by  the Government 
House.) 
of  which notice  had  been  given. 

o f 

Question put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the (Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

IMr.  Fuller: 

Tellers for the f Viscount  Valentia, 
I Mr.  Henry  Forster 

Noes, 

Clause  No.  18 (Trustees  for  the  purposes  of 

«  turbary, pasture,  &c.). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  10,  1.  24,  after 
the  word  "  Department,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  or  a  county  council  or  rural  district  council." 
—(Mr.  Birrell  ) 

Question  put,  That  the Amendment  be made. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the (Captain  Norton, 

178. 

} 31. 

1180. 

1  31. 
f 

Yeas, 

1 Mr. Fuller : 

Noes, 

Tellers for the | Mr. Lonsdale, 
( Mr.  Mac Caw : 
Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  19  agreed  to. 

VOL.   164. 

Clause  No.  20  (Equitable  price  of  holdings). 
Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

}  179. 

I 

i  3 1. 

the  Bill.  


The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the/Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

t Mr. Fuller : 

Tellers for the/ Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Henry  Forster  : 
Clause  No.  21  (Congested  estates). 
Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the/Captain  Norton, 

Yea,s, 

(Mr.  Fuller: 

Tellers  for the/Viscount  Valentia, 
(Mr.  Henry  Forster 

Noes, 

1  180. 
) 

31. 

f 

Clauses. No.  22 and  No.  23 agreed  to. 
Clause  No. 24  (Power  to  exchange  tenancies). 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  13,1.26,  at  the 

end, to  add the  words— 

" ( 5  )  When  a  holding  to  which  any  charges, 
liabilities,  or  equities  have  been  transferred, 
whether  under this section  or  under  section  one 
of  the  Congested  Districts  Board  (Ireland)  Act, 
1901,  is  sold  under  the  Land  Purchase  Acts, 
the particulars  to  be  transmitted  to  the  regis­
tering  authority  pursuant  to  section  thirty-two
of  the Act  of  1896  shall  include  particulars  of 
the  original  holding  from  which  the  charges, 
liabilities,  or  equities have  been transferred, and 
where  the registering  authority  in  any  such case 
dispenses  with  the ascertainment  of  burdens, the 
note  which  he  is  required  to  make  under  sub­
section three  of  section twenty-nine  of  the Local 
Registration  of  Title  (Ireland) Act,  1891, shall 
contain  such  modifications  or  additions  as  may 
be  necessary  for  the  purpose of  protecting  any 
transferred  charges,  liabilities,  or  equities."— 
(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Question  put, That  the  Amendment  be made. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the/Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fuller-.  


}180. 

Noes, 

Tellers for thefMr. Lonsdale, 

(Mr.  Mac Caw: 
Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  25  agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  26  (Certain  powers  and  duties  of 
Land  Commission  to  be  exercised  by  Estate 
Commissioners). 

31. 

An  Amendment  made. 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand  part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the/Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

LMr.  Fuller : 


Tellers for the/Viscount  Valentia,  

(Mr.  Heitry  Forster : 

Noes, 

1 1 8 0, 

}  30, 

Clause  No.  27  (Delegation  of  powers  of 

Estates  Commissioners). 

Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the/Captain  Norton,

Yeas, 

IMr.  Fuller : 

Tellers for  the f Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

LMr.  Henry  Forster:  

Clauses  No.  28 to  No.  30 agreed to. 

Clause  No.  31  amended, and agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  32 agreed to. 

3  E  4 

178. 

J-  2 9. 

 
400 

23rd 

August 

1 9 0 9  . 

T N c . 1 2 4. 

Clause  No.  3o  (Amendment  of  s. 

the  Act  of  1903). 

48  (4)  of  I  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  Naval 

Second  Reading  of  the  Naval  Establishments

 ^  ^

Question put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of  Bill; 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the [Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Fuller:  


Tellers  for thej Viscount Valentia, 


Noes, 

\Mr.  Henry  Forster  : 

}  175. 

}  26. 

To  report  Progress, and ask leave to sit again. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed the  Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had made  Progress  in  the 
Bill;  and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That 
the  Committee  may have  leave  to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Workmen's 
Second  Reading  of  the  Workmen's  Compensa-  Compensation 
, 
. 
(Anglo-French 
tion  (Anglo-French  Convention)  Bill; 
Convention) 

\  t t ii  

-r-i& 

,  . 

, 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time BlU­

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Coal  Mines 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation  Beguiation 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

again resolve  itself into  the said  Committee. 

The  Assistant  Postmaster  General  Bill  was,  Assistant 

Cinemato­
graph  BiU. 

The  Order  of  the day being read, for resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed 
upon  the  21st day of April  last, That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be  now read a second  time  ; 

according  to  Order,  read  the  third  time  and 
passed. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire  their  concurrence. 

Ordered, That the Debate be further adjourned 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

till  to-morrow. 

Merchandise 
Marks 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Merchandise  Marks  (Ireland)  Bill  was, 

according to  Order,  read a second  time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House for  Wednesday 
next.—(Mr.  T.  W.  Russell.) 

Weeds and 
Agricultural 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Weeds  and  Agricultural 

(Ireland)  Bill.  Seeds  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Bridgend 
(Hope  English
Chapel, &c.)

Charity  Biii.

The  Bridgend  (Hope  English  Baptist  Chapel, 
Charity  Bill  was, according  to  Order,  read 

the third  time  and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

John
MarshaiFs^

John  Marshall's  Charity  Bill  was,  according 

to  Order,  read  the third  time  and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire  their  concurrence. 

The  Lichfield  and  Longdon  Congregational 
Chapels  and  Trust  Property  Charity  Bill  was, 
  according  to  Order,  read  the  third  time  and 

Lichfield and
Longdon
Chafeif and
Trust  Property passed. 
Charity  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

Committee on the Customs and  Inland  Revenue 
Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

BiU 

The  Order of  the day  being  read,  for  taking  Telegraph 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration) O^rbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in the Standing  Committee) ;  1 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

T he  Order   o f  the  day  being  read,  for  the  child Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial)  (Trial)  Bill 
Bill  [Lords]; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  B i l l;  

Accounts) 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second time  (Ireland)  Bill, 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lunacy 

Second  Reading  of the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill;  

(Ireland)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Fisheries 
Second  Reading  of the  Fisheries  (Ireland)  Bill;   (Ireland)  Bill. 

the Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Dewsbury  and  Batley  Congregational 
Dewsbuiy 
Con^-egationai  C h a P e l  Charities  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  

Chapel 
Charities BiU. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to  


read the  third time and passed.  


The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dublin Police 

Second  Reading of  the Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

the Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

to-morrow. 

Wortley 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Oongregationai  T H r ( j   R e a ( j i n g   0 f   th e  Wortley" Congregational 
Charity  Bill.  Chapel  Charity  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring Laws 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con-  Continuance 
tinuance  Bill; 

. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Colonial Naval  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Defence Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Colonial  Naval  Defence 

Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, Town 
&c.  Bill ; 

Planning,  & c . 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

to-morrow. 

resolve  itself  into the  said  Committee. 



 
 
 
 
 
 
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401 

London 
Elections  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking 
into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee)  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

Mr.  Harcourt  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Osborne.  


Command,-—Copy  of  Report  by  the  House 
Governor 
and  Medical  Superintendent  at 
Osborne for  the  year  ending  31st  March  1909.  


Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


County 
Councils 

Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker adjourned 
the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant  to  the  Order  of  the House  of  the 
20th  day  of  this instant  August, it  being 
then  ten  minutes  before  Twelve  of  the 
clock, till  to-morrow. 

[No.  125.]  ' 

Tuesday, 24th August 1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of the  clock. 

Mr. Speaker's 
Absence. 

Prayers. 

Aberdeen 
Harbour 
Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 

Bill  310. 

THE  House being  met, the  Clerk  at the  Table 

informed  the  House  of  the  unavoidable 
absence  of  Mr.  Speaker  from  this day's  Sitting: 
—Whereupon  Mr.  Ernmott, the  Chairman  of 
Ways  and  Means, proceeded  to  the  Table,  and, 
after Prayers, took the Chair as Deputy Speaker, 
pursuant "to the  Standing  Order. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented  a  Bill   to 
confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under the  Private 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, 
relating  to  Aberdeen  Harbour:  And  the  same 
was  read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  (under 
Section  9 of the Act)  to  be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Thursday  the  2nd day of  September  next; 
and to be  printed. 

Buckie  Burgh 
and  Buckie 
(Cluny) 
Harbour 
Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented  a  Bill   to 
confirm a Provisional  Order  under  the  Private 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, 
relating  to  Buckie  Burgh  and  Buckie  (Cluny) 
Harbour  :  And  the  same  was  ordered  (under 
Section  7  of  the  Act)  to  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Thursday  next. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His  Board of 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Agricultural  Agriculture 
Statistics,  1908.  Vol.  X L I I I.  Part III., Prices  a nd  Flshenes ­
and  Supplies  of  Corn,  Live  Stock,  and  other 
Agricultural  Produce. 

Ordered,  That the said Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


A  Motion  being  made,  That  this  House  will,  Merchandise  


to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to Marks  

consider  of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of^®p^s e s]

moneys provided by  Parliament, of  the expenses 

of  prosecutions  undertaken  in  pursuance  of  any  

Act  of  the present  Session to  enable the  Depart­
ment  of  Agriculture  and Technical  Instruction  

for Ireland  to  undertake  prosecutions  in  certain  

cases  under  the  Merchandise  Marks  Act,  1887  

—(Mr.  Birrell); 

Mr.  Birrell,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted  the  House  that  His  Majesty,  having 
been  informed  of  the  subject-matter  of  this 
Motion, recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of 
the  House. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into the said  Committee. 

Mr.  Tomkinson  reported  from  the  Select  Daylight 
Committee  on  the Daylight  Saving  Bill;  That   Saving  Bill, 
they  had  considered  the  said  Bill,  and  taken 
evidence  thereon,  which  they  had  agreed  to 
report to  the  House;  and  had  directed  him  to 
report  the  same without  Amendment. 

Mr.  Tomkinson  further  reported  from  the  Special  

Select  Committee;  That  they  had  agreed  to  a Beport. 

Special  Report,  which  they  directed  him  to  

make to  the  House.  


Ordered, That the  Report  and  Special  Report  No.  265.  


do  lie  upon  the  Table  ;  and be  printed.  


Ordered, That  the  Union  Officers  (Ireland)  Union Officers 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

Bill  be read  a second  time to-morrow. 

The House, according  to  Order, resolved itself  Irish  Land 

into  a Committee  on the  Irish  Land  Bill.

Bill> 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Beport. 

Polling 
Districts 
(County  of 
London.) 

Queen's 
College, 
Belfast. 

Evictions 
(Ireland.) 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read;  and ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act   of  Parliament,— 
Copies  of  Orders  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
County  of  London,  dividing  the  Parliamentary 
Boroughs  of  Battersea  and  Clapham,  Kensing­
ton, and Tower  Hamlets into  Polling  Districts. 
Ordered, That the  said  Paper do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr. Birrell  presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com-
mand,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  President  of 
Queen's  College,  Belfast, for the year  1908-9. 

Copy  of  Return  of  the  number  of  Evictions 
from  Agricultural  Holdings  in  Ireland  which 
have  come to  the knowledge of  the Constabulary, 
and  also  of  the  number  of  Tenancies  deter­
mined, in the  quarter  ended  30th June  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

VOL.   164. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  34  (Restrictions  on acquisition  of  


holdings  and removal of  trees).  


An  Amendment  made.  

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  16,1.  5,  


to leave  out paragraph  (a).—(Mr.  Moore.)  


Question  put, That the  words  proposed  to  be 
left  out, to  the word  "  when," in  1. 9, stand part 
of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton,


Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller: 
Tellers for the  I Mr.  Moore,  


Noes, 

1 Mr.  Lonsdale:  


Another  Amendment  made.  


201. 


35. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  16,1.  12, 
to leave out the word  "  three,"  in  order to  insert 
the word  "  two."—(Mr.  Hart-Davies.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  three" 
stand  part  of  the  Clause: — Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

3  F 







 
402 

2Mh August 

1909. 

[.No. 125. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  16,1.  12, 
to  leave  out the word  "  three,"  in order  to insert 
the word  "  seven."—(Mr.  Gordon.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the j  Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 

Question,  That  the  word  " t h r e e"  stand  part 

of the  Clause, put, and  negatived. 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Henry  Forster, 
( Viscount  Valentia : 

Noes, 

224. 

34. 

Question,  That  the  word  " s e v e n"  be  there 

inserted, put, and  negatived. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  16,1.  12, 
in  lieu  of  the word  left  out,  to  insert  the word 
"  five."—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Question,  That  the  word  "  five"  be  there 

inserted, put, and agreed  to. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  16,1.  15, 

to leave out paragraph  (b).—(Mr.  Moore.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out, to  the  word  "  in,"  in p.  16,1.  18, 
stand  part  of  the  Clause :— Amendment,  by 
leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  16,  1. 18, 
to  leave  out  the words  "  in  the  opinion  of  the 
Land  Commission."—(Mr. Muldoon.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :— 
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part  of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 

175. 

Noes, 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Henry  Forster, 
( Viscount  Valentia : 
Clause  No.  35  (Recovery  of  interest). 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  16,  1. 39, to  leave 
out from the word  "  annuity "  to  the  end  of  the 
Clause.—(Mr.  Charles Craig.) 

22. 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 
left  out,  to  the  word  "if,"  in p.  16,  1. 40, stand 
part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

| Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr.  Charles Craig, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Lonsdale: 

216. 

32. 

Chairman
Frtlwitif'0118
(pursuant, to
Order  of the 
House.) 

And  it  being  half  an hour  after Ten  of  the 
the  Chairman  proceeded,  pursuant  to  the 
  Order  of the  House  of the  15th day of June last, 
successively  to  put  forthwith  the  Questions 
necessary  to  dispose  of  the  Clauses  to  be  con­
cluded  at  this  day's  Sitting,  and  on  any 
Amendments  thereto moved by the  Government 
of  which notice  had  been given. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Henry  Forster, 
1 Viscount  Valentia  : 

Noes, 

220. 

34. 

Clause  No. 36  (Extension  of  3  Edw.  7, c.  37, 

s.  69 (2)  ). 

Question  put.  That  the  Clause  stand  part of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

|  Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

( Viscount  Valentia  : 

222. 

34. 

Clause  No.  37  (Payments  out  of  interest  on 

purchase money  before  vesting). 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

Clause  No.  38  (Amendment  of  7  Edw.  7, 

c.  38). 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  BilL 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr,  Henry  Forster, 
( Viscount  Valentia : 

Noes, 

223. 

34. 

Clause  No.  39  (Procedure  of  the  Estates 
Commissioners  on  failure  of  negotiations  for 
purchase). 

Amendment  proposed,  in p.  17,1. 42,  to  leave 
out from  the word  "  and "  to  the  word  "  the,"  in 
p.  18,  1.  1,  in  order  to  insert  the  words  "  no 
agreement  has  been arrived  at."—(Mr.  Birrell.) 
Question  put,  That  the Amendment  be  made. 
The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the  ( Captain  Norton,  


j.  222. 

( Mr,  Fuller: 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Lonsdale, 

Noes, 

! Mr.  Charles  Craig: 

31. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  18,1.  2,
in 

after  the  word  "  send,"  to  insert the words 
the  prescribed  manner."—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Question put,  That  the  Amendment  be made. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller:

Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Lonsdale, 

(
j 

217. 

32. 

Noes, 

t Mr.  Moore : 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  19,1.  10, 
to  leave  out  from  the word  "  land "  to  the  end 
of  the  Clause,—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Question put,  That  the Amendment .be made. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr. Lonsdale, 

Noes, 

( Mr. Moore : 

214. 

29. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand  part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the j  Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Henry  Forster, 
i  Viscount  Valentia  : 

Noes, 

213. 

29. 

To  report Progress, and ask leave to  sit again. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed  the  Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in the 
Bill;  and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That 
the  Committee  may  have  leave  to sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve  itself  into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  taking  Dunoon  Burgh 
into  consideration  the  Dunoon  Burgh  Bill  Bil1 [Lords.]
[Lords'], as amended  in the  Committee ; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  taken 
into  consideration; 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 

 
 
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4 03 

words  "upon  this  day  three  months."—(Mr. 
Morton.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 

word  "  now "  stand  part of the  Question ; 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit 
till  after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Wednesday 
morning ; 

Wednesday,  25th August 1909 : 

The  said  proposed  Amendment  was,  with 

leave  of  the  House,  withdrawn. 

And  the  Main  Question  being  put  ; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  now  taken  into 

consideration : —  The  House  accordingly  pro­
ceeded  to take  the  Bill  into  consideration. 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made to 
the  Bill,  in  p. 4,1.8,  by inserting,  after the word 
"  thereto,"  the  words "  up to  but  not  exceeding 
the  sum of  six.  hundred  pounds  sterling."—(Mr. 
Morton.') 

And the Question  being put,  That those words 

be  there inserted  in  the  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time  


this  day.  


The Workmen's  Compensation (Anglo-French  Workmen's 
Convention)  Bill  was,  according   to  Order,  read  Compensation 
(Anglo-French 
j 
a  second  time. 
Convention) 

® 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a BiI1­

Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  this  day.—  

(Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone.)  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Coal  Mines 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation  Regulation 
Bill  j. 

BllL 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The_  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Committee  on the  Customs and  inland  Revenue  inland 
JJ[J2 . 

Revenue Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Telegraph 
into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration)  (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee) ;  BlU' 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next.  


The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for the/Mr.  Morton,

Yeas, 

IMr.  Watt:

Tellers  for the f Mr. Lamont,
(Mr.  Cleland:

Noes, 

"1 
J 
"1 
J 

21. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Child Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) (T™!) Bill 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

' lUrd*.] 

72. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

So  it passed  in  the  Negative. 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  the third  time. 

Weeds and 
Agricultural 
Seeds 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Weeds  and  Agricultural 
Seeds (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

this day. 

Wortley 
Congregational 
Chapel 
Charity  Bill. 

The  Wortley  Congregational  Chapel  Charity 
Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  the  third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

Fisheries 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Fisheries  (Ireland)  Bill  was, according 

to  Order, read a second  time. 

Cinemato­
graph  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  this  day.— 
(Mr.  T.  W. Russell.) 

The Order of  the  day being read, for  resuming 
the  adjourned  Debate  on the  Question  proposed 
upon  the 21st  day  of  April  last, That  the  Cine­
matograph  Bill  be now read  a second  time ; 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed:— 
The  House resumed  the said  adjourned  Debate. 

And  the  Question  being  put; 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time  :—The  Bill was  accordingly  read  a  second 
time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for this  day.— 
(Mr.  Secretary Gladstone.) 

Colonial  Naval 
Defence  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Colonial  Naval  Defence 
Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

this  day. 

Naval 
Establish­
ments Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Naval  Establishments 
Bill; 

VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Second  Reading  of 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill;  

the  Local  Government  ^ernment 

. 

Accounts) 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  (Ireland) Bill, 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  dav  being  read,  for  the Lunacy 

Second  Reading  of  the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill;  

(Ireland)  Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dublin Police 

Second  Reading  of the  Dublin  Police  Bill;  

BiU-

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring Laws 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con-  Continuance 
tinuance  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time  


this day. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Housing, 

Committee  on the  Housing,  Town  Planning,  &c. 
t. :ii  . 

> 

. 

. 

Resolved, That this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself  into  the said  Committee. 

Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of the day  being  read,  for  taking London 
into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill  Elections 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee)  ;

Bl11­

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-  Councils 
Mortgafi'i 
Bill 

gages  Bill; 

t, . ,, 

° 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

Whereupon  Mr. Deputy  Speaker  adjourned  

the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant to the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  

20th day  of this  instant August, it  being  

then twenty-seven  minutes before  One  of  

the  clock  on  Wednesday  morning,  till  

this day. 


3  F  2 

 
 
 
4 04 

2 5th  August 

1909. 

[No. 126. 

Mr. Speaker's 
Absence. 

Prayers. 

Glasgow 
Corporation 
Bill [Lords."] 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 
Report. 

Poor  Law  and 

Belief  of  

Distress 

(Royal 

Commission.) 


[No.  126.] 

Wednesday, 25th August  1909. 
The  House  met at a quarter  of  an hour 
before  Three of  the  clock. 

informed  the  House  of 

THE  House being  met, the Clerk  at the Table 

the  unavoidable 
absence  of  Mr.  Speaker from this  day's  Sitting: 
— Whereupon  Mr.  Emmott,  the  Chairman  of 
Ways  and  Means, proceeded  to  the  Table,  and, 
after Prayers, took the Chair  as Deputy  Speaker, 
pursuant to  the  Standing  Order. 

The  Glasgow  Corporation  Bill  [Lords]  was 
read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amend­
ments. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the same, with  Amendments;  to 
which this  House doth  desire the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

Several Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Appendix  to  the 
Report  of  the  Royal  Commission  on the  Poor 
Laws  and Relief  of Distress.  Vol. IV.,  Minutes 
of  Evidence  (Days  72-89).  Vol.  IVA.,  Index 
to  Minutes of  Evidence. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

o 

expenses  incurred  by  the  Department  of  Agri­
culture  and  Technical  Instruction  for  Ireland  in 
pursuance  of  any  Act  of  the  present  Session  to 
amend  the  Fisheries  (Ireland)  Acts,  1842  to 
1901—(Mr.  Birrell)-, 

Mr.  Birrell,  by  His  Majesty's  Command, 
acquainted  the  House  that  His  Majesty,  having 
been  informed  of  the  subject-matter  of  this 
Motion, recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of 
the  House. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Ordered, That  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  do  issue  Clare  County 
his  Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown  in  ^p8*Clare) 
Ireland, to  make out a new Writ for  the electing
of  a  Member  to  serve  in  this  present  Parlia­
ment for  the  County  of  Clare  (West  Clare),  in 
the room of  James  Halpin, Esquire,  deceased.— 
(Captain  Donelan.) 

  ' 

n

Ordered,  That 
amended,  he printed. 
. 

the  Standing  Orders,  as  Standing 

Orders. 

No. 267. 

Mr.  Henry  Joseph  Wilson  reported  from  the  Public 
Select  Committee  on  Public  Petitions;  That  Petitions 
they  had  examined  the  Petitions  presented  ^porO 
upon  the  5th,  6th,  7th,  8th,  9th,  12th,  13th, 
14th;  15th,  16th,  19th,  20th,  21st,  22nd,  23rd, 
26th,  27th,  28th,  29th,  and  30th  days of  July 
last,  and  the  2nd,  3rd,  4th, 5th,  6th, 9th,  10th, 
11th, and  13th days  of  this instant August,  and 
had directed  him  to  make  a  Report  thereof  to 
the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

East  India  

Statistical 

Abstract.) 


The  Master  of  Elibank  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,  —  Copy  of  Statistical 
Abstract  relating  to  British  India from  1898-9 
to  1907-8.  Forty-third  Number. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Order  for  reading  a  second  time,  upon  Salmon, 
Wednesday  next, the  Salmon,  Trout,  and River  ^"r'x^ed 
Tweed  Fisheries  Bill  was read, and discharged.  Fisheries  Bin. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  time 
upon  Wednesday  the  15th  day  of  September 
next. 

Persia 

(No.  2,1909.)  


Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  further 
Correspondence  respecting  the  Affairs of  Persia. 
Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Ordered, That  the  Hours  of  Labour (Surface-  Hours of 
men)  Bill  be  read  a  second time  upon  Tuesday  JJga,!2ur 
next. 

BiU. a c e m e n ;) 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved  itself Irish  Land 

into  a  Committee  on the  Irish  Land  Bill. 

BlU­

Inebriates Acts 

(Inspector's 

Beport) 

(Ireland.) 


Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—  Copy  of  Fifth  Report  of  the 
Inspector  for  Ireland  under  the  Inebriates 
Acts,  1879  to  1900,  for  the  year  1908  (with 
Appendices). 

Local 

Contributions 

(Ireland.) 


N o.  268. 

Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,—Return  to  an 
Order,  dated  the  15 th  day  of  March  last,  for 
a  Return  relative 
to  Local  Contributions 
(Ireland). 

Local 
Contributions 
(Ireland.) 

N o.  269. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  15th  day  of 
March  last,  for  a  Return  relative  to  Local 
Contributions  (Ireland). 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers do lie  upon the 

Table  ;  and that the  said  Returns be  printed. 

Development
and Boad
Fund°BiU.en 8
No. 266.

Ordered, That there be  laid before this  House 
( j 0 p y   0 f  Memorandum  dealing  with  the 
a 
  Development  and  Road  Improvements  Fund 

  Bill.—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause No.  40 (Incorporation of  the  Congested 

Districts  Board). 

Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause  stand 

part  of  the  Bill: 

And  it  being  Nine  of  the  clock,  the  Chair-  Chairman 

man  proceeded, pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the 
House  of  the  15 th  day  of  June  last,  to  put  (pursuant  to 
forthwith  the  Question  already  proposed  from  Order of  the 
the  Chair.

Hou3e-> 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the / Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 
<• 

11 

(Mr.  Fuller-. 
(Sir  Alexander Acland-

Tellers for the 
JNoes, 

^ 

[Viscount  Valentia-. 

221. 

^ 

i ,
f 
"I 
I 
J 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  accordingly 

presented  the  said  Paper. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Fisheries
(Ireland)

A  Motion  being  made, That  this  House  will, 
to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to 
consider  of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of 
moneys  to  be  provided  by  Parliament, of  any 

The  Chairman  then  proceeded  successively  to  Chairman 
put forthwith the  Questions necessary  to dispose f^hwitlf10118 
of  the  Clauses  to  be concluded  at  Nine  of  the  (pursuant  to 
clock this  day, and on  any  Amendments  thereto  Order  of  the 
moved  by  the  Government  of  which  notice  had  House-) 
been  given. 

Clause  No.   41  (Reconstitution  of  the  Board). 
Question  put,  T h at  the  Clause  stand  part   of 

the  Bill. 

 
 
126.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

25th  August.  	

405 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller:  


Tellers for the J  Mr. Henry  Forster, 

)
I Marquess of Hamilton: ) 

Noes, 

227. 

44. 

Clause  No.  42  (Duration  of  office  of  repre­

sentative members and casual  vacancies). 

Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the (Captain  Norton,

Yeas, 

[Mr.  Fuller:

Tellers for t h e J  S i r  ^ ' *  a ,  ' r f c  r  A d a n d  ' 

Noes

'

1  ­
(Viscount  Valentia :

'

„.,„ 

• 

1
J 

1 
f
J 

Clause  No.  43  (Administrative  committee). 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  f Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

| Mr. Fuller: 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

I Marquess of Hamilton :  j

223. 

) 
J 
)  43. 

Clause  No.  49  (Orders  in  Council). 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton,  


157. 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien,  I  ,  


Noes, 

1 Mr,  Haviland-Burke:  |  


Clause  No.  50 

(Grant  of  superannuation 

allowances by  Congested  Districts  Board). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 24,1.  20, to  leave 
out  from  the  word  " them "  to  the  word  "  as," 
in  1. 21,  in order  to insert  the words "  not  being 
otherwise  pensionable."—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Question  put,  That the  Amendment be  made. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the  ( Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller:  


Tellers  for the j  Mr. Lonsdale, 

( Mr.  Gordon : 

Noes, 

|  237. 

|  45. 

Question  put, That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of the  Bill. 

Clause  No.  44  (Congested  districts  counties 

and local  authorities). 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the j  Captain  Norton,  


Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fuller-.  


233. 

Clause  No.  46  (Consultative  committees  for 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller:  


the  Bill, 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Captain Norton, 

)

226. 

Yeas, 

|  Mr.  Fuller: 
Tellers for the J  Lord  Edmund Talbot,  )  44. 
( Lord  Balcarres: 
Clause  No.  45  (Transfer  of  certain  powers 
and  duties  of  the Board  to  the  Department  of 
Agriculture). 

Noes, 

j 

j 

Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill, 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  I Captain  Norton, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 

Yeas, 
Tellers for the ( 
i	
Noes 
( Viscount  Valentia : 
' 

Alexander Acland­

. H o o d>

. 

b230. 

'

4 "

' 

purposes of fisheries). 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller: 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Henry  Forster, 

)
J 
) 

Noes, 

|  Marquess of Hamilton  : j 

226. 

47. 

Clause  No. 47  (Provision  of  money for  Board 

and Department  of  Agriculture). 

Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Fuller: 

) 
] 

232. 

Tellers  for the  ( Lord  Edmund Talbot,  )  46. 
1 Lord  Balcarres: 
Clause  No.  48  (Provisions  consequential  on 

Noes, 

J 

transfer of  powers and  duties). 

Question  put, That  the Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the (Captain  Norton, 

m  ii 
i 
Tellers for  the J  Hood, 	

t Mr.  Fuller: 
fSir  Alexander Acland-
» ­(Viscount  Valentia; 

Yeas, 
r 

Noes, 

VO L.   164. 

Tellers for the  [ Mr. Henry  Forster, 

)


Noes, 

|  Marquess of Hamilton: ) 


And  it  being  after half-past Ten  of  the clock,  Chairman 
the  Chairman  proceeded,  pursuant to the  Order Pnta Questions 
of  the  House  of  the  15th  day  of  June  last, Jp 1^"^  t o 
successively  to  put  forthwith  the  Questions  Order of  the 
necessary  to  dispose  of  the  Clauses  to  be  con-  House.) 
eluded  at  half  an  hour  after Ten  of  the  clock 
this day,  and on any Amendments  thereto moved 
by  the  Government  of  which  notice  had  been 
given. 

Clause  No.  51  (Sales  of  parcels  of  land  by 

Congested  Districts  Board). 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the  ( Captain  Norton,  


227. 

Noes, 

Tellers for  the  ( Lord  Edmund Talbot,  )  

) 

( Lord  Balcarres: 
Clause  No.  52  (Extension  of  3 Edw.  7, c.  37,  

s. 19, to sales by the Congested  Districts Board). 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  25,  1.  14, at  the 
end, to  add  the  words  "  and  the Land  Purchase 
Acts  shall apply  accordingly."—(Mr.	  Birrell.) 

43. 

Question  put,  That  the  Amendment  be made. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the j  Captain Norton, 


Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 


Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  L,onsdale,  


Noes, 

( Mr.  Hugh Barrie  : 

231. 

42. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of  the Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the/Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

I Mr.  Gulland: 
f Sir  Alexander  Acland- 1


, 
_  „ 
Tellers  for  the)  H f ) o d> 

. 

Noes, 

(Viscount  Valentia: 

230. 

I  4 3­
\ 

232. 

Clause  No.  53  (Extension  of  3  Edw.  7, c. 37, 
s.  15  (6),  to  sales  to  the  Congested  Districts 
Board). 

46. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

3  p  3 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 




4 06 

25th—26th  August. 

1909. 

[No. 126. 

The  Committee  divided.  

. Tellers for  the  ( Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

{ Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers  for  the  (Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

( Marquess of Hamilton: ) 

229. 

1  43. 

Clause  No.  54  (Rents  and  profits  recoverable 

by  the  Congested  Districts  Board). 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 


The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

|  Mr.  Fuller: 
Tellers for the  1  Lord  Edmund Talbot,  |  40. 
I Lord  Balcarres : 

Noes, 

J 

) 

230. 
j ^ 

Clause  No.  55  (Restriction  on  purchases  by 

the  Board). 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for thej Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Fuller : 

} 2 2 6. 

Tellers forth ^Alexander 

Noes 
' 

. H o o d>

1
(^Viscount  Valentia: 

Acland- 1 
f
J 

4 0, 

Clause  No.  56  (Restrictions  on  sales of  land 

in  congested  districts  counties,  7 Edw.  7, c.  6). 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

) 
( Mr.  Fuller: 
f 
Tellers  for  the  ( Lord  Edmund  Talbot, 1 
.  J 

I Lord  Balcarres : 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

204. 

38. 

To report  Progress, and  ask leave to  sit again. 

Mr. Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the 
Bill;  and that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That 
the  Committee  may have  leave  to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

The  House, according to  Order, resolved itself  Merchandise 

into  a Committee  on  Merchandise  Marks  (Ire- ^eSnd) 
land)  [Expenses], 

[Expenses.] 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved, That it  is expedient  to authorise  the  

payment, out of moneys provided by Parliament, 

of  the  expenses  of  prosecutions  undertaken  in  

pursuance  of  any  Act  of  the  present  Session  

to  enable  the  Department  of  Agriculture  and  

Technical  Instruction 
take  prosecutions  in  certain  cases  under  the  

Merchandise  Marks  Act,  1887.—(Mr.  T.  W. 
Russell.) 


for  Ireland  to  under­

Resolution  to be  reported. 

the  Bill.  


The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the  ( Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed  the  Chair ;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had come  to  a Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  he  received  this 

224. 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr. Henry  Forster, 

| 

Noes, 

I Marquess of Hamilton :  J 

day. 

40. 

Clause  No.  57  (Procedure  of  the  Board  on 

failure  of negotiations for  purchase). 

Amendment  proposed,  in p.  26,  1. 19, to  leave 
out  the words  "  the  parties  have  failed  to  come 
to  an  agreement,"  in  order  to  insert  the  words 
" no  agreement  has  been  arrived  at." —  (Mr. 
Birrell.) 

Question  put,  That  the Amendment  be  made. 

The  Committee  proceeded  to  a  Division. 

The  Colonial  Naval Defence  Bill was, accord- Colonial Naval 

ing  to  Order, read  a  second  time. 

Defence  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the whole  House  for  this  day.— 
(Mr.  T.  IV. Russell.) 

The  Naval  Establishments Bill was, according  Naval 

to  Order, read  a second  time.  1 

Establish­
ments  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the whole  House  for  this  day.— 
(Dr.  Macnamara.) 

Thursday, 26*A August 1909 : 


Tellers for  the  ( Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

j  Mr.  Fuller : 


Tellers for  the j  Mr. Lonsdale, 


Noes, 

( Mr. Hugh Barrie : 

223. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Weeds and 
Second  Reading  of  the  Weeds  and  Agricultural  g ^  u l t m a  l 
Seeds  (Ireland)  Bill;  

(Ireland) Bill. 

40. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  time 

Another  Amendment proposed, in  p. 26,1.  21, 
after  the word  "  send,"  to insert  the  words  "  in 
the prescribed  manner."—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Amendment  be  made. 
The  Committee  divided. 

•  Tellers  for  the j  Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

| Mr.  Fuller  : 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Moore, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Charles Craig : 

) 
\ 
) 
j 

215. 

38. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  26,  1. 34, 

to leave  out  subsection  (3).—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Question  put,  That the  Amendment  be  made. 

The  Committee  divided. 

.  Yeas, 

Tellers  for the j  Captain  Norton, 

) 
j 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Thomas Corbett,  ) 
) 

( Mr.  Hugh  Barrie: 

| Mr. Fuller: 

Noes, 

212. 

38. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand  part  of  the  Bill. 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Merchandise 

Committee  on the Merchandise  Marks  (Ireland)  Marks 
.Bill • 

(Ireland)  BilL 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Fisheries 

Committee  on the  Fisheries  (Ireland)  Bill; 

(Ireland)  Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into the  said  Committee. 

The House, according to  Order, resolved  itself  Cinemato­

into a  Committee  on the  Cinematograph  Bill. 

graph  Bill, 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause No. 1 (Provision against cinematograph 

exhibition  except  in licensed  premises). 

Amendment proposed,  in  p.  1,  1.  6,  to  leave 
out  the  words  "  for  the  purposes  of  which 
inflammable  films  are  used." —  (Mr.  Walter 
Guinness.) 



 
 


No. 126.]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

25th—26th  August. 

4 07 

Chairman 
declines to 
propose  the 
Question 
(Abuse  of 
Rules.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to  be  left out stand  part of  the  Clause  : 

Mr.  Carlile  moved,  That  the  Chairman  do 
report  Progress,  and ask leave  to sit again  ;  but 
the Chairman, being of  opinion  that  the  Motion 
was  an abuse of the  Rules of  the House, declined 
to  propose  the  Question  thereupon  to  the  Com­
mittee. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to be left out stand part of the Clause  :—Amend­
ment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Clause agreed  to. 
Clauses  No.  2 to  No.  7 agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  8  disagreed  to. 
Clause  No.  9 agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  10 amended, and agreed  to. 

Clause  No.  11 agreed  to. 
Bill,  as amended, to  be  reported. 

Mr. Deputy  Speaker resumed the Chair  ; and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had gone  through the  Bill. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be taken  into  consideration  this  day. 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved  itself 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Workmen's  Compen­
sation  (Anglo-French  Convention)  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.  1 and  No.  2 agreed  to. 
Schedule  agreed  to. 
Preamble  agreed to. 
Bill  to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had gone  through  the  Bill, 
and  directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  the  third  time 

this  day. 

Workmen's 
Compensation 
(Anglo-French 
Convention) 
Bill. 

Coal  Mines 
Regulation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this day. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on the  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue 
Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into the said  Committee. 

Child  Murder 
(Trial)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [Lords'] ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
  Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government 

Local
Government
( A u d i  t  of. Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill; 
A^countl)
(Ireland)  Bill.  Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this  day. 

Lunacy 
(Ireland) Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this day. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring Laws 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con-g^ i n u a n oe 
tinuance  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort- Mortices 
BiiL SageS 
gages Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  adjourned  

the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant  to  the  Order of  the  House  of  the  

20th  day of  this  instant  August,  it  being 

then  five  minutes  after  One  of  the  clock  

on  Thursday  morning,  till this  day.  


[No.  .127.] 

Thursday, 26th August  1909. 

The  House  met at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three of the  clock.  


TH E  House  being  met,  Mr.  Emmott,  the 

Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means,  at  the 
request of  Mr.  Speaker,  proceeded  to  the  Table, 
and,  after  Prayers,  took  the  Chair  as Deputy  Prayers. 
Speaker,  pursuant to  Standing  Order  No.  1. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to  Buckie  Burgh 

take  into  consideration  the  Buckie  Burgh  and 
Buckie  (Cluny)  Harbour  Order  Confirmation  Harbour Order 
Bill. 

Confirmation 

Buckie 

Ordered,  That the  Bill be read  the  third  time  Bl11' 

upon  Monday  next. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and public 

read:  and  ordered  to lie upon  the  Table. 

1 

Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Report. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His  Canals and 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Third  Report   o f  Waterways 
the Royal  Commission  appointed  to inquire  into commission ) 
and report  on the Canals and Inland  Navigations 
of  the  United  Kingdom.  Vol.   V.  Part  I., 
Report.  Vol.   V.  Part  II.,  Minutes   of  Evi­
dence and Appendices,  with  Indexes.  Vol.. Y I. 
Report  by  W .  H.  Lindley,  Esquire. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Parliamentary 

directions  of  an  Act   of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Eeturns-
the  Parliamentary 
Treasury  Minute  under 
Returns  Act,  1869,  dated  24th  August  1909, 
directing  the  discontinuance  of  a Return  of  Sea 
and  Coast  Fishery  Fund Loans in non-congested 
districts  in  Ireland. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer  presented  a Development 

Bill  to  promote  the  economic  Development  o f a nd  Road 
the  United  Kingdom  and  the  improvement  of 
Roads  therein:  And  the  same  was  ordered  to  Bill 312 
be read a second  upon  Monday  next;  and to be 
printed. 

i S ™  " 

Dublin  Police 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

The  House,  according  to Order, resolved itself  Irish  Land 

Second  Reading of the  Dublin  Police  Bill; 

into  a Committee  on the  Irish  Land  Bill. 

B1U­

VOL.  164. 

3  F  4 

 
408 	

26th  August 

1909. 

[No. 127. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  58  (Compulsory  purchase). 
Amendment  proposed, in p.  27,  1. 10, to  leave 
out the words  " An  estate or."—(Mr.  Wyndham.) 
Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "  An 

estate "  stand  part  of  the  Clause:—Amend­
ment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 27,1.  10, 
to  leave  out  the words  "  or  untenanted  land."— 
(Mr.  Moored) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause :— 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment proposed, in  p.  27,1.  28, 

to  leave  out subsection  (3).—(Mr.  Moore.) 

Question,  That the  words  proposed to be  left 
out,  to  the word  "  apply,"  in p. 27,  I. 30, stand 
part of  the  Clause, put, and agreed  to. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in p. 28,1.  17, 

at  the  end, to  Insert  the  words  "  but  no  per­
centage  on the purchase money  shall be  payable 
under  section  forty-eight  of  the  Act  of  1903, 
or  any  amendment  amending  that  section,  nor 
shall  any  additional  allowance  be  made  to  the 
purchase  money in respect of the purchase  being 
compulsory."—(Mr.  Clancy.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Chairman 
And  it  being  half  an  hour  after  Ten  of  the 
puts Questions clock,  the  Chairman  proceeded,  pursuant  to 
the  Order of  the  House  of  the  15th day  of  June 
forthwith 
last, successively  to put  forthwith  the  Questions 
OrdTof the 
necessary  to  dispose  of  the  Clauses  to  be  con­
House.) 
cluded  at  this day's  Sitting. 

Question put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the/ Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for 
Nneq 
' 

Alexander  Acland-

i  Hood, 
[Viscount  Valentia-. 

}  201. 

} 
> 
J 

29. 

Clause  No.  59  (Restriction  on  compulsory 

purchase of  certain land). 

Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(.Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the fMr.  Henry  Forster, 

202. 

"]
J 
)  29. 
J 

Noes, 

(.Lord  Balcarres  : 
Clause  No.  60  (Orders  for  framing  lists  of 

assessors). 

Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

•	 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 
"(Captain  Norton : 
Tellers for the/Lord  Edmund Talbot,  \  ^g  


}203. 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

I Marquess  of  Hamilton : J 


To  report  Progress, and ask leave to  sit again. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee may have leave to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again  resolve itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Merchandise 
Marks 

Mr.  T.  W.  Russell  reported  from  the  Com-
(Ireland) 

on  Merchandise  Marks 

mittee 

[Expenses]  a  Resolution;  which  was  read,  as  (Ireland) 
followeth: 

[Expenses.] 

That it is expedient to  authorise  the  payment, 
out  of  moneys  provided  by  Parliament, of  the 
expenses  of  prosecutions  undertaken  in  pur­
suance  of  any  Act  of  the  present  Session  to 
enable  the  Department  of  Agriculture  and 
Technical  Instruction  for  Ireland  to  undertake 
prosecutions  in  certain  cases  under  the  Mer­
chandise  Marks  Act,  1887. 

The said Resolution,  being  read a second  time, 

was agreed  to. 

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved itself  Merchandise 
into  a  Committee  on  the  Merchandise  Marks ^ ^ n rn Bin 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

K 

J 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  1 amended, and agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  2 agreed  to. 
Bill,  as amended, to be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee had gone  through  the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Committee,  be  taken 
morrow. 

into  consideration  to­

The  House, according  to Order, resolved  itself Fisheries 
(Ireland)  (Ireland) 

into  a  Committee  on  Fisheries 
[Expenses]. 

[Expenses.] 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Resolved, That it is expedient  to  authorise  the 
payment,  out  of  moneys  to  be  provided  by 
Parliament,  of  any  expenses  incurred  by  the 
Department  of  Agriculture  and  Technical  In­
struction  for  Ireland  in  pursuance of  any  Act  of 
the  present  Session  to  amend  the  Fisheries 
(Ireland)  Acts,  1842  to  1901.—(Mr.  T.  W. 
Russell.) 

Resolution  to be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee had come  to  a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read,  for  taking  cinemato­
into  consideration  the  Cinematograph  Bill,  as graph  Bill, 
amended  in the  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Workmen's  Compensation 

(Anglo-Workmen's 

French  Convention)  Bill  was,  according  to  Compensation 
ConlenS°h 
Order, read  the third time  and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to Bill, 

the  Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The	  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Coal  Mines 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation  Regulation 
Bill;	  

BilL 

8 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  House, according to Order, resolved  itself  Colonial  Naval 

into a Committee  on the  Colonial  Naval Defence  Defence  Bill. 
Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.  1 to  No.  3 agreed  to. 
Schedule  agreed  to. 
Bill  to  be  reported. 

No. 127.]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

26th—21th  August 

409 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  gone  through  the  Bill,  and 
directed  him  to  report 
the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  now read  the third 
time :—The  Bill was accordingly  read  the  third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  M o r t - ^  ^ 
Bin. 8"863 
gages Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put, pursuant  to  

the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th day  

of  this  instant  August,  it  being  then  a  

quarter  of  an hour  before  Twelve  of  the  

clock, till  to-morrow.  


Naval 
Establish­
ments  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  the  Naval  Establishments  Bill ; 

Resolved, That  this House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself  into the  said  Committee. 

Asylums 
Officers' 
Superannua­
tion  Bill. 

The  House, according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Asylums  Officers' 
Superannuation  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Com­
mittee. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  the  third 
time  : —The  Bill was accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

Weeds and 
Agricultural 
Seeds 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Weeds  and  Agricultural  Seeds  (Ireland) 
Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second 
time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House for  Monday next. 
—(Mr.  T.  W. Russell.) 

Fisheries 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the  Fisheries  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into  the said  Committee. 

Customs and 
Inland 
.Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee°on  the  Customs  and Inland  Revenue 
Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Child  Mnrdex 
(Trial)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Beading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Local 
Government 
(Audit  of 
Accounts) 
(Ireland)  Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Lunacy 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Dublin  Police 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Expiring 
Laws 
Continuance 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con­
tinuance  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

VOL.  164. 

[ N o. 

1 2 8 .] 

Friday,  21th August 1909. 

The  House  met  at  Twelve  of  the  clock. 

P  B A Y E R S. 

That  the  Dunoon  Burgh  Bill Dunoon Burgh 

[Lords]  be read  the  third time  upon  Monday  Bil1  [Lords.] 

riRDERED, 
^ 
next. 

A  Public  Petition  was  presented, and read ;  Public 

and ordered to lie upon the  Table. 

Petition.' 
Vide Fifth 
Report. 
Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Egypt 

1 

His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Despatch (No- 2>  1909 > 
from  His  Majesty's Agent  and  Consul  General 
at Cairo, forwarding  the  Egyptian  Law  of  4th 
July  1909,  for  placing  certain  persons  under 
police  supervision. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  there  be laid  before  this  House  Crown  Leases 

a  Return  of  all  Crown  Leases  renewed  since 
1906, when  the  annual  rent  wa*  £100  or  over, 
and  the premium  £1,000  or  over,  showing  the 
rent before  and after renewal  and  the  premium 
in  each  case.—(Viscount  Castlereagh.) 

Sir  George Doughty  reported  from  the  Com-  Taff  Vale 
(CardiffRailway 

mittee  on  the  Taff  Vale  Railway 
Railway,  Vesting,  &c.)  Bill [Lords]  ;  That  with 
reference  to  the  Instruction  of  the  House  of Vesting^'&c.) 
the  15 th day  of  June  last  Clause  25  of the  Bill,-Bill  [Lords]
referred  to  in  that  Instruction, had been  struck 
out,  in  consequence  of  the  rejection  of  the  Railway  Bill 
provisions  of  the  Bill  relating  to  the  before-
mentioned  vesting;  that  with  reference  to  the 
Instruction  of the  House  of  the  6th  day  of  July 
last  a Petition  of the  Merthyr  Dowlais and  Dis­
trict Trade and  Labour  Council,  the  Pontypridd 
and  District  Trades  and  Labour  Council,  the 
Caerphilly  and  District  Trades  and  Labour 
Council,  and  the  Aberdare  Trades  and  Labour 
Council  had  been  referred  to  the  Committee, 
and the  Petitioners  had  been  heard  by  Counsel 
and Witnesses in support of that  Petition. 

[Lords].)

Sir  George  Doughty  further  reported  from 
the  Committee;  That  they  had  examined  the 
allegations  contained  in  the  Preamble  of  the 
Bill,  and  amended  the  same  by  omitting  the 
recitals  relating  to  the  vesting  in  the  Taff 
Vale  Railway  Company  of  the  undertaking  of 
the  Cardiff  Railway  Company  (including  that 
Company's  Bute  Docks  at  Cardiff),  and  had 
otherwise  amended  the  same  so  as  to  make  it 
consistent  with  the  provisions  of  the  Bill  as 
passed  by  the  Committee,  and  found  the  same, 
as amended, to  be  true;  and  had  gone  through 
the Bill  and made  Amendments  thereunto;  and 
had amended  the  Title  of  the Bill,  as followeth  :  [Title 
—An  Act  for  conferring  further  powers   on  the  amended.] 
Taff  Vale  Railway  Company. 

3 G 



410 

27th  August. 

1909. 

[No. 128. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Whereupon  the  Chairman  left  the  Chair  to 

make  his Report  to  the  House. 

Sir  George Doughty reported  from  the  Com-
TafE Vale 
Railway 
mittee  on  Group  6  of  Railway  Bills;  That 
(Rhymney 
the  parties  promoting  the  Taff  Yale  Railway 
Railway, 
(Rhymney  Railway,  Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  [.Lords] 
Vesting,  &c.) 
Bill  [Lords.)  had  stated  to  the  Committee  that  it  was  not 
[Parties do 
not  proceed.]  their intention to  proceed  with  the  same. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Irish  Land 
Bill. 

The  House, according to  Order, resolved itself 

into  a Committee  on the  Irish  Land  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  61  (Future  tenants). 
Amendment  proposed, in p. 29,1. 29, after the 
word  "  tenancy,"  to  insert  the  words  "  or  any 
existing  lease  within  the  meaning  of  section 
twenty-one  of  the  Act  of  1881,  as amended  by 
this  section."—(Mr.  Maurice  Healg.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words be  there 

inserted:—Amendment,  by leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 29,1.  36, 
after  the  word  "  determined,"  to  insert  the 
words  "  or  the  assignee  of  such  tenant."—(Mr. 
Maurice Healy.) 

Question  proposed, That  those words be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

An  Amendment  made.  

Clause,  as amended, agreed  to.  

Clauses  No.  62 to  No.  65 agreed  to.  

A  Clause  (Amendment  of  3  Edw.  7,  c.  37,  

s.  51)—(Mr.  Birr ell)—brought  up,  and  read 
the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Clause  be read  a second  time:—Motion  and 
Clause, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

A  Clause  (Examiners  of  title)  added. 
Another  Clause  (Proposals  for  purchase  by 
Estates Commissioners)—(Mr.  Birrell)—brought
up, and read  the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Clause  be read  a second  time. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for  the CViscount Valentia, 

Noes, 

\ Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

j - 1 6 0. 

1  28. 

And  it  being  after  Five  of  the  clock,  the 
Chairman 
puts  Questions  Chairman  proceeded,  pursuant  to  the  Order 
(pursuant to  of  the  House  of  the  15th  day  of  June  last, 
Order  of  the  successively  to  put  forthwith  the  Questions 
House.) 

necessary  to dispose of  the  Business  to  be  con­
cluded  at this day's  Sitting. 

Clause  added. 
Another  Clause  (Power  to  enter  and  inspect 

land  with  a view  to purchase)  added. 

First  Schedule  disagreed  to. 
Second  Schedule  agreed  to. 
New  Schedule—(Mr.  Birrell)—brought  up, 

and read  the first and  second  time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Schedule  be  added  to  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
L Captain Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the/Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Henry  Forster \ 

160. 

27. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee had gone  through the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Bill 313. 

Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  upon 
Wednesday  next;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Birrell  reported  from  the  Committee  on Fisheries 
Fisheries  (Ireland)  [Expenses]  a  Resolution;  rgelaTJ1d-)  •> 
which  was read,  as followeth  : 

That it  is expedient  to authorise  the  payment, 
out of moneys to  be provided  by  Parliament,  of 
any  expenses  incurred  by  the  Department  of 
Agriculture  and  Technical  Instruction  for  Ire­
land  in  pursuance  of  any  Act  of  the  present 
Session  to  amend  the Fisheries  (Ireland)  Acts, 
1842  to  1901. 

The  said  Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time, was agreed  to. 

The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Merchandise 
B ;  u 
1 

take  into  consideration  the Merchandise  Marks 
(Ireland)  Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee. 

rea" 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be now read  the  third 
time:—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the third 
time  and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill to 

the Lords, and desire  their  concurrence. 

The House,  according to Order, resolved itself  fisheries 
into  a  Committee  on  the  Fisheries  (Ireland)  ( I i e l a n d) B i IL 
Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.)  


Clause  No.  1 agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  2 disagreed  to.  

Clauses  No.  3 and  No.  4  agreed  to.  

Schedule  amended, and  agreed  to.  

Bill,  as amended, to  be reported. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  the 

Deputy  Chairman  reported,  That  the  Com­
mittee  had gone  through  the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  upon 
Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Committee  on  the  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue lnland 
„   . „ 
Bill  ; 

Revenue  Bui 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  Child Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the 'Child ^Murder (Trial)  (  W  Bin 
Bill  [Lords]-, 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  nixt. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 

Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government  Government 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill;  

Accounts) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time (lreland-> Bni­

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lunacy 

Second  Reading  of  the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill;  

(Ireland)  Bin, 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dublin Police 

Second  Reading  of  the  Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Bill. 

.No.  125.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

2±th—25th  August.  	

411 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Universities of 

upon  Monday  next. 

Expiring  Laws  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Continuance  Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con­

tinuance  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Trustees' 
Accounts  Kill.  Third  Reading  of the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill  ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  the  third  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Parliamentary 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
^ a M P e e i  s  of  Second  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Seats 
Scotland ) » 
Bill. 

(Peers  of  Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-
gages  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

directions  of  an  Act   of  Parliament,—Copy   o f  Oxford  and 
Statute  made  by_  the  University  of  Oxford  ^ l s r  F 
under the Universities of  Oxford  and  Cambridge  (Oxford.) 
Act,  1877,  on  the  11th May  1909,  and  sealed  No. 270. 
on  the  same  day,  amending  Statute  Tit.  VI., 
Section  1E, Subsections  2  (2),  3  (1) and  (m),  of 
the  Statutes of the  University. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,—Return  to an Order,  Crown  Leases, 

dated the  27 th day  of  this instant  August,  for  a 
Return  relative  to  Crown  Leases. 

Mr.  Hobhouse also  presented, pursuant to  the  Superannua­
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of t i Qn  Act '1884­
Treasury  Minute  under  the  Superannuation 
Act,  1884,  dated  28th  August  1909,  declaring 
that  Charles  Hughes  Cox,  War  Office,  Lad, 
Royal  Small  Arms  Factory,  Enfield  Lock,  was 
appointed  without  a  Civil  Service  Certificate 
through  inadvertence  on  the  part  of  the head 
of his  Department. 

Ordered, That  the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant 
to  the  Order  of  the  House,  of  the  20th 
day  of  this instant August,  it  being  then 
twenty  minutes  after  Five  of  the  clock, 
till  Monday  next. 

[ N o.  1 2 9 .] 

Monday,  30th   August  1 9 0 9. 

The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His  Factory  and 
Majesty's  Command,—  Copy  of  Report  to  the  ^ r t i t u l a rs   of 
Secretary of  State for the  Home  Department by piecework 
Sir E. F.  G.  Hatch, Baronet,  on  his  investiga-  Wages.) 
tions  as  to  methods of  applying  Section  116 of 
the Factory  and  Workshop Act, 1901, to  sundry 
Industries. 

Ordered, That the  said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc-  Supreme 
tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  was  laid upon  Court  (Rules.) 
the  Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House:—Copy 
of  Rules  of  the  Supreme  Court,  dated  25th 
August  1909. 

P R A T E R S. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message  from 

Dunoon  Burgh  n n HE  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Bill  [Lords.-]  J_  T h i r  d  R e a d i ng   0f  the  Dunoon  Burgh  Bill 

Message  had  been  brought from  the  Lords  b y t he  Loi 'lls­
one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth  : 

[jLords] ; 

Ordered, That the  Bill be  read  the third  time 
to-morrow,  at a quarter  of  an  hour after  Eight 
of the  clock. 

Buckie  Burgh 
and  Buckie 
(Cluny) 
Harbour 	
Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 	

The  Buckie  Burgh  and  Buckie  (Cluny)  Har­
bour  Order  Confirmation  Bill  wa3, according  to 
Order, read the third  time  and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and  desire their  concurrence. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Report. 

Sale of  Glebe 
Land  Rules.  	

A  Public  Petition  was  presented,  and  read  ; 

and ordered to lie  upon the  Table. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  pursuant  to 
the  directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Rules made by  the  Board  of  Agriculture  and 
Fisheries  under  the Glebe  Lands  Act,  1888. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Children  Act,  Mr.  Birrell  presented,  pursuant  to  the  direc­
1908. 	

tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  — Copy  of 
Statutory  Rules  made  by  the  Lord  Chancellor 
of  Ireland  regulating  the  Procedure  of  Courts 
of  Summary  Jurisdiction  under  the  Children 
Act,  1908. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

VOL.   164. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Public  Works  Public  Works 

Loans Bill,  without any  Amendment. 

Loans  Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments  Risca  Urban 
BjU 

made by  this House  to the Risca  Urban  District 
Council  Bill  [Lords],  without any  Amendment.  [Lords.] 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments  Torquay  and 

made by this House to the Torquay and Paignton  £a'gnton 
Tramways  Bill  [Lords],  without  any  Amend­
ment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments  Shrewsbury 

made by  this  House  to  the Shrewsbury  Corpora­
tion  Bill  [Lords],  without  any  Amendment. 

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself  Housing, 

into  a Committee  on  the  H o u s i n g,  T o wn  P l a n - £ o wn 
Planning,  &c. 
ning, &c.  Bill, 	
Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  1 (Part  III.   of  principal  Act  to 

take  effect without  adoption). 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the J Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

132. 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 
Tellers for the/Sir  Frederick  Banbury,  \  ^g  


Noes, 

IMr.  Walter  Guinness  :  J  


Clause  No.  2 (Provisions  as  to  acquisition  of  


land under  Part  I I I . ). 

3  G  2 

412 

30th  August. 

1909. 

[No. 129. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,  1. 14, to  leave 

out  subsection (1).—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  put, That  the words  proposed  to be 
left  out, to  the  word  "  for,"  in p.  1,1.  15, stand 
part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

I. Captain Norton : 

Tellers for  tne ("Mr.  Cave, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Walter  Guinness :  J 

j  146. 

.  1  32. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  1,1.  15, 
after  the  word  "  compulsorily,"  to  insert  the 
words  "  and hold  the same."—(Mr.  Brodie.) 

Question  proposed,  That those  words be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  1,1.  15, 
to 
leave  out  the  words  "'Part  III.  of  the 
principal  Act,"  in  order to  insert the  words '' the 
Housing  Acts."—(Mr.  Munro Ferguson.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to be left out stand  part of  the Clause  :—Amend­
ment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  1,  1. 16, 
to  leave  out  from the word  "  A o t"  to the  end  of 
the subsection.—(Sir  Frederick Banbury.) 

Question  proposed, That  the  words  proposed 

to  be left out stand part of  the Clause  :—Amend­
ment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  1,  1. 18, 
after  the  word  " Act,"  to insert  the words  "  but 
this  provision  shall  not  iapply  to  any  common 
land  within  the  meaning  of  the  Inclosure  Acta, 
1845 to  1899, or  to  any  open  space  used  by  the 
public for  purposes of recreation."—(Mr.  Cave.) 
Question proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted:—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  1,1.  18, 
after  the word "  Act,"  to  insert  the  words "  but 
this  provision  shall  not apply  to  any land  which, 
at  the  date of  the  order, has  been acquired  by 
the  owners  thereof  for the purposes of  a railway, 
dock, canal, water, or other public  undertaking." 
—(Mr.  MlArthur.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the/Mr. M<Arthur, 

Yeas, 

I Colonel Lockwood'. 

Tellers  for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

\ Captain  Norton : 

} 39. 

164. 

Chairman 
And  it  being  after  half-past  Seven  of  the 
puts  Queations  clock, the  Chairman,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of 
forthwith 
(pursuant  to 
Order of  the 
House.) 

t he   H o u se   0 f   t h e 
ceeded  successively  to put  forthwith  the  Ques-
tions  necessary  to  dispose  of  the  Clauses  to  be 
concluded  at  half  an  hour  after  Seven  of  the 
clock  this day, and  on  any  Amendments  thereto 
moved  by  the  Government  of  which  notice  had 
been  given. 

1 5 t h  day  of  June  last,  pro­

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

) 
j 
Tellers for the  ( Sir Frederick Banbury, } 
} 
I Mr.  Fell: 

( Captain Norton: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

167. 

33. 

Clause  No.  3 agreed  to. 
Clause  No. 4  (Loans  by  Public  Works  Loan 

Commissioners  to public  utility  societies). 

Amendments made. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

I Captain  Norton : 


Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Tyson  Wilson,  


Noes, 

( Mr.  Thomas Richards : 

I  176. 

27. 

Question  put,  That  Clauses  No.  5  to  No.  12 

stand  part  of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the/Mr.   Joseph  Pease, 

Yea3, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the [Mr.  Carlile, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Philip  Foster:  


168. 

32. 

Clause  No.  13 amended,  and agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  14  (Extension  of  s.  75  of  the 

principal  Act). 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 
X Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  the/Lord  Robert  Cecil,  

IMr.  Staveley-Hill: 

Noes, 

1168. 


j  33. 

Clause  No.  15  (Conditions  as  to  keeping 
houses  let  to  persons  of  the  working  classes 
in repair). 

An  Amendment  made.  

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended,  


stand part of the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  thefMr.  Joseph Pease, 
1 Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

j 167. 


Tellers for the/Mr.  Mitchell-Thomson,  1  

J 
(Mr.  Gibbs: 

Noes, 

32. 

Clause  No.  16  (Duty  of  local  authority  as  to 
closing  of  dwelling-house  unfit  for  human  habi­
tation). 

An  Amendment  made. 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

\Captain  Norton : 


Tellers for  the ("Mr. Lambton, 


\ 159. 

31. 

Noes, 

IMr.  Rawlinson : 

Question  put,  That  Clauses  No.  17  to  No.  29  


stand  part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Stanier, 

|  155, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Fletcher : 
Clause  No.  30  (Quinquennial  survey  and 

register). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  14,  1. 9,  to  leave 

out  subsection  (1).—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to be left  out,  to  the  first  word  "  to,"  in  p.  14, 
1. 10, stand part  of  the  Clause: 

And  it  being  half  an hour  after  Ten  of  the  Chairman 
clock,  the  Chairman,  pursuant  to  the  Order  j P ^ ^ f "  ® 
of  the  House  of  the  15th  day  of  June  last, ( p ^ a ^ nt   to 
proceeded  to put forthwith  the  Question  on  the  Order  of  the 
Amendment already  proposed from the  Chair. 

House.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to be 
left  out,  to  the first word  "  to,"  in p.  14, L  10, 
stand part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for thej  S i r / o / m , D i c k s o n -

Yeas 
X e a s ' 

1  Poynder, 
(Mr.  Morrell:  


)  75. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand  part  of  the  Bill. 

Tellers for thefMr. Joseph Pease, 

\ Captain  Norton : 

Noes, 

121. 




No. 129.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

3(M  August.  	

4 13 

Subsequent  words  of  the subsection  left  out. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Chairman 
The  Chairman  then  proceeded  successively  to 
forthwith  IOn3  put forthwith the  Questions  necessary  to  dispose 
(pursuant to  of  the  Clauses to be  concluded  at  half  an  hour 
Order  of the  after  Ten  of  the  clock  this  day,  and  on  any 
House.) 
Amendments  thereto  moved  by  the  Government 
of  which notice  had been  given. 

Clause,  as amended, disagreed  to. 
Question  put, That  Clauses  No.  31  to  No.  43 

stand part of the  Bill. 

sideration  to-morrow.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking  Cinemato­
into  consideration  the  Cinematograph  Bill,  as s r aP h
  B i l !­
amended  in the  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow.  


The  House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself  Naval 
into  a Committee  on  the  Naval Establishments Estabikh­
B i l l. 

ments Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the j  Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers  for the  f Mr.  Lane-Fox, 

Noes, 

t  Mr.  Gibbs : 

158. 

36. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.  1 and  No- 2 agreed  to. 
Bill  to  be  reported. 

Clause  No.  44  (Prohibition  of  back-to-back 

houses). 

Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  20,1.  32, 

after the  word  "  Acts,"  to  add the words "  Pro­
vided  that nothing in  this  section— 

(a)  shall  prevent	  the  erection  or  use  of  a 
house containing several tenements in  which 
the  tenements  are  placed  back  to  back,  if 
the medical  officer of  health  for  the  district 
certifies that  the  several  tenements  are  so 
constructed  and  arranged  as  to  secure 
effective  ventilation  of  all  habitable  rooms 
in every  tenement;  or 

(b)  shall  apply	  to  houses  abutting  on  any 
streets  the  plans  whereof  have  been  ap­
proved  by  the  local  authority  before  the 
first  day  of  May  nineteen  hundred  and 
nine,  in any  borough  or  district  in which,  at 
the  passing  of  this  Act,  any local  Act  or 
byelaws  are  in force  permitting the  erection 
of back-to-back  houses." 

—(Mr.  Burns.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Amendment  be made. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton: 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Parker, 

, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Thomas Richards : | 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as amended, 

121. 

) 
j 
)  64. 

stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Parker, 

Noes, 

( Mr. Thomas Richards'.  J 

115. 

) 
) 
|  69. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy Chairman  reported, That the  Committee 
had  gone  through  the  Bill,  and  directed  him 
to  report the  same, without  Amendment. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be now read  the  third 
time : — The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the third 
time  and  passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Fisheries 
take  into  consideration  the  Fisheries  (Ireland)  (Ireland)  Bill. 
Bill, as amended  in the  Committee. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  now  read  the  third 
time :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking London 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill  Elections Bill, 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee) ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Development 

Second  Reading  of  the  Development  and  Road  a nd  Koad 
Improvement  Funds  Bill  j 

F S B T  * 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The House,  according  to  Order, resolved itself  weeds and 
into  a Committee on the Weeds and Agricultural  Agricultural 
Seeds  (Ireland)  Bill. 

S n d ) B i i i. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.  1 and  No.  2 amended, and  agreed 

Question  put, That  Clauses  No.  45 to  No.  51 

to. 

stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the J Mr.  Staveley-Hill, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Fell: 

}•  160. 

33. 

Clause  No.  52 amended,  and agreed  to. 
To  report Progress,  and ask leave  to  sit again. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had made Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have  leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve itself into the  said  Committee. 

Clause  No.  3 disagreed  to. 
Clauses  No.  4  to No  7 agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  8 disagreed  to. 
Clause  No.  9 amended, and agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  10 agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  11 amended, and agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  12  agreed  to. 
Bill,  a3 amended, to be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman  reported, That the Committee 
had gone  through  the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Bill 314. 

Committee,  be  taken 
morrow  ;  and  be printed. 

into  consideration  to­

Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read,  for  taking 
i n t  o  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbitration) 
Bill  (not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee) ; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Committee  on the  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue  Iuland 
JJJJJ .	 

Revenue BJ1. 

VOL.  164. 

3	  G  3 

414 

30th—31st  August 

1909. 

[No. 130. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  iDto the  said  Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Return  relative  to  Crown Crown 
sases. 
N o.  271. 

Leases, which  was presented  upon  the 30th  day 
of this instant August,  be  printed. 

Child Murder 
(Trial)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Local 
Government 
(Audit of 
Accounts) 
(Ireland)  Bil!. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Local.  Government 
(Audit  of Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Lunacy 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Dublin  Police 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Expiring Laws 
Continuance 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con­
tinuance  B i l l; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Trustees'
Accounts  Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

  Third  Reading  of  the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

Parliamentary

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Seats 
(Peers  of  Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant  to 
the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th  day 
of  this  instant  August,  it  being  then 
twenty-seven  minutes  before  Twelve  of 
the  clock, till  to-morrow. 

[No.  130.] 

Tuesday, 31s£ August 1909. 

The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of the  clock. 

P R A Y E B S. 

TH E  House  proceeded  to  take  into  con­

sideration  the  Taff  Vale  Railway  Bill 
(changed  from  Taff  Vale  Railway 
[Lords],

[Lords] 
(Cardiff  Railway,  Vesting, 
as amended in the  Committee. 

ike.)  Bill 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be read the  third time. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Colonial 

Command,—Copy  of  Report  No.  609  (Gambia, Reports 

Annual  Report  for  1908).  


(Annual.) 

Ordered,  That  the  said Paper  do lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Tramway 


Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Board  of  Orders. 

Trade  of  their  Proceedings under the  Tramways  

Act,  1870, during  the  Session  of  1909.  


Copy  of  Report  of  an  Inquiry  by  the  Board Earnings and 

of  Trade into the Earnings  and Hours of  Labour 
of  Workpeople  of  the  United  Kingdom. 
II. 
Clothing  Trades in  1906.  


Hours 
Inquiry. 

Ordered, That  the said Papers do lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant Shop Hours 

to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— Act,  1904. 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
County  Borough  of  Halifax  under  the  Shop 
Hours Act, 1904, and confirmed by the Secretary 
of  State  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
hours of  closing  for  certain  classes of  Shops. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Ordered, That  there be  laid before  this  House  Magistrates 

a  Return  of  the  names,  addresses,  and  occupa-  (Ireland.) 
tions  or descriptions  of the  persons  appointed  to 
the  Commission  of  the  Peace  in  Ireland  since 
the  preparation  of  the  last  Return, giving  for 
each county and borough  a summary  of  religions 
of  those  so appointed,  a summary  of  religions  of 
all now  holding  the  Commission  of  the  Peace  in 
each  county  and  borough,  and  the  numbers  of 
each  religious  denomination  in  the  different 
counties  and  boroughs  according  to  the  last 
Census (in continuation of  Parliamentary  Paper, 
No.  153  of  Session  1908).—(Mr.  Jeremiah 
MacVeagh.) 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by  the  Lords-
one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth  : 

The  Lords  have agreed  to  the  Amendments Electric 
made  by  this  House  to  the  Electric  Lighting  Lighting 
Provisional  Orders (No.  1)  Bill  [Lords],  without Orders (No.  1) 
any  Amendment. 

Bill  [Lords.] 

Provisional 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments Gas and Water 

made  by  this  House  to  the  Gas  and  Water Orders 
Confirmation 
Orders  Confirmation  Bill  [fiords],  without  any BiU  [Lords.]
Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments Tramways 

made  by  this  House  to  the  Tramways  Orders Orders 
Confirmation 
Confirmation  Bill  [Lords],  without  any  Amend- Bill  [Lords.]
ment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments North  Eastern 

made  by  this  House  to  the  North  Eastern 
Railway  Bill  [Lords],  without  any  Amendment. 

Railway  Bill 
[Lords.]

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled   An Yorkshire 
Registries 
Act  to  amend  the  Yorkshire  Registries  Act, Amendment 
1884 ; to which the  Lords  desire the  concurrence Bill  [Lords.]
of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled   An Prisons 

Act  to  provide  for  the  appointment  of  Women 
as members of  visiting  committees for Prisons  in 
Scotland;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  con­
currence  of this  House. 

(Scotland) 
BiU  [Lords.]

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read  ;  and  ordered to  lie upon  the  Table. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An Summary 
Jurisdiction 
Act to  remove  doubts  as to the manner in  which (Scotland) 
accused  persons  may  be  detained  in  custody, Act, 1908, 

Tatf  Vale 
Railway  Bill 
f Lords]
(changed from 
TafE Vale 
Railway 
(CardifE 
Railway, 
Vesting, &c.) 
BiU 

[Lords]) 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 
Report. 

 
 


No. 130.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

31s£ August. 

4 15 

Amendment 
Bill  [Lords.] 

the 
pending  trial,  under  the  provisions  of 
Summary  Jurisdiction  (Scotland)  Act,  1908;  to 
which the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

Health 
Resorts 
(Ireland)  Bill. 
BiU  315. 

Mr.  Jeremiah  MacVeagh,  supported  by  Dr. 
Ambrose,  Mr.  Barrie,  Mr,  Boland,  Viscount 
Castlereagh,  Mr.  Thomas  Corbett, Captain  Done­
lan, Mr.  Glendinning,  Mr.  Gwynn, Mr.  Murphy,
Mr.  CMalley,  and Mr. Scanlan,  presented  a  Bill 
to empower  local  authorities  in  Ireland  to  strike 
a  rate  to  defray  the  cost  of  advertising  local 
Health  Resorts  :  And  the  same  was  ordered  to 
be  read  a second  time  upon  Monday  next;  and 
to  be  printed. 

Connty  Courts
( S n d ) B i l l.
Bill  316

  Mr.  Jeremiah  MacVeagh,  supported  by  Mr. 
°,Shee>  M r '  Lardncr,  Mr.  O'Doherty,  and  Mr. 
Kennedy, presented  a  Bill  to  extend the  Juris­
diction  of  County  Courts  in  Ireland:  And  the 
same was ordered  to be read a  second time  upon 
Monday  next;  and to be  printed. 

Hospitals  Bill. 
Bill 317. 

Mr.  Jeremiah  MacVeagh,  supported  by  Sir 
Alfred  Thomas,  Mr.  Arthur  Henderson,  Mr. 
Eugene  Wason,  and  Mr.  Younger,  presented  a 
Bill to  empower local  authorities  to strike a rate 
in  aid  of  local  Hospitals  :  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be read a second  time  upon  Monday 
next;  and  to be printed. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

The  House, according to Order, resolved  itself 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Housing,  Town  Plan­
ning, &c.  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Yeas, 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the| Mr. Joseph Pease, 

L Captain  Norton: 

] ^gg 

J 
Tellers for  thef Sir  Frederick  Banburv,  1 
(Mr.  Cave: 

"  /  * v' 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 26,1.  14, 
to leave out  from  the word  "  not "  to  the  end  of 
the  Clause.—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Noes, 

.Q


Question  put, That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left out  stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee divided. 

Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Cave, 

Noes, 

1  Viscount  Morpeth : 

I  195  

) 

51. 

Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

\  212 
j 
Tellers for the  j Sir Frederick Banbury, ) 

j 

{  Captain Norton :  • 

I Lord  Robert  Cecil: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

And  it  being  after  half-past  Seven  of  the  Chairman 
clock,  the  Chairman,  pursuant  to  the  Order |'0ur^h^tions 
of  the  House  of  the  15th day of June  last, pro- (pnrgUant to 
ceeded successively to put forthwith the Questions  Order of  the 
necessary  to  dispose  of  the  Clauses  to  be con- Hcmse-) 
eluded  at  half  an  hour  after Seven  of  the  clock 
this day, and on any  Amendments  thereto  moved 
by  the  Government  of  which  notice  had  been 
given. 

Clause  No.  53  (Preparation  and  approval  of 

Clause  No.  54  (Contents  of  town-planning 

town-planning  scheme). 

Amendment  proposed, in  p.  25,  1. 15, to  leave 
out the  words "  The  Local  Government  Board 
may authorise."—(Mr.  Cleland.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:  — 
Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  25,  1. 17, 
after  the  word  "  land,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  other  than  land  acquired  by  any  corporation 
or  company  for  the  purposes of  a railway,  dock, 
canal, water, or other public  undertaking."—(Sir 
Frederick  Banbury.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

Yeas, 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the fSir  Frederick Banbury,  ) 
J 
j 
176. 
J* 

(Viscount  Morpeth: 
Tellers for  the j Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

(Captain  Norton: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 25,1.  17, 
to  leave  out the  words "  or in the  neighbourhood 
of."—(Mr. Mitchell-Thomson.) 

Noes, 

41. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:  — 
Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  25,  1. 20, 
after  the  first  word  "  or,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  with  the  consent  of  the  local  authority, and, 
subject to any agreement between such  authority 
and  the  owners,  the  Board."—(Mr.  Munro 
Ferguson.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted:—-Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 25,  1. 25, 
to  leave  out  the  words "  a piece  of  land  already 
built  upon  or."—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

Question put,  That  the words  proposed  to  be 

left out stand part of  the  Clause. 

VOL.  164. 

schemes). 

Amendments  made. 

Question  put, That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand  part of  the  Bill, 

4 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
( Captain  Norton : 


Yeas, 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Cave, 

Noes, 

1 Mr.  llawlinson : 

Is


) 
j 

219. 

58. 

Question put, That  Clauses No.  55  and No.  56 

stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Stanier, 

Noes, 

\ Mr.  Fell: 


215. 

58. 

! 
J 
l 
\ 

Clause  No.  57  (Compensation  in  respect  of 

property  injuriously  affected by  scheme,  &c.). 

An Amendment  made. 
Another Amendment  proposed,  in p. 28,  1. 32, 
to leave  out  from  the  word  "  made "  to  the end 
of  the subsection, in order to insert the words "  if, 
in  the  opinion  of  the court, such  work was  done 
with  a  view  to  obtaining  or  increasing  com­
pensation  under this Act."—(Lord  Robert Cecil.) 
Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause: — 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  28,  1. 38, 
to leave  out  subsection  (3), in order to insert the 
words " In  determining  the amount of compensa­
tion  under  this section  regard  shall  be  had  to 
the  extent  to  which  lands  and  hereditaments 
belonging  to  the  same  proprietor  may  be  bene­
fited by the  scheme."—(Mr.  Walter Guinness.) 

Question  put, That  the  words proposed  to  be 
left out, to  the word  "  or,"  in  p. 28,  1. 39, stand 
part of  the  Clause. 

3  G  4 















416 

31s£  August.—1st September. 

1909. 

[No. 130. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thefMr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

\Captain  Norton: 

Tellers  for the/Mr.  Walter Guinness, 

Noes, 

\ Viscount  Morpeth  : 

1  184. 

)  ^g
J 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  29,  1. 12, 
to leave  out from the  word  "  determined ''  to  the 
end  of  subsection  (4),  in  order  to  insert  the 
words  "  by  arbitration."—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  "  by  the  Local 

Gpvernment  Board "  stand  part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
(Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the ("Mr.  Cave, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Walter Guinness : 

1 
J 
\ 
j 

194. 

57. 

Chairman 
And  it being  after  half-past  Ten  of the  clock, 
puts  Questions the  Chairman,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the 
(pursuant  to  House  of  the  15th  day  of  June  last, proceeded 
successively  to  put  forthwith  the  Questions 
Order  of  the 
necessary  to  dispose  of  the  remaining  Clauses 
House.) 
of  the  Bill,  and  on  any  Amendments  thereto 
moved  by  the  Government  of  which  notice  had 
been  given,  and  the  other  Questions  necessary 
to  bring  the  Committee  stage to  a  conclusion. 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Question  put, That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand  part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the / Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Y Captain  Norton  -. 
Tellers for the ("Viscount  Morpeth, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Rawlinson  : 

j-  204. 

|  53. 

Clause  No. 58  (Obligation  to  execute  contract 

note). 

Amendment  proposed, in  p.  29,  1. 29, at  the 

end, to insert the  words— 

"  (2)  Property  shall  not  be  deemed  to  be 
injuriously  affected  so  as  to  give  rise  to  any 
claim  for  compensation  under  this  Part  of  this 
Act   by  reason of  the  operation  of any  provisions 
inserted  in a town-planning  scheme which, with a 
view to securing the amenity of  the area included 
in  the schem.e, or any  part thereof, prescribe  the 
space  about  buildings  or  limit  the  number  of 
buildings  to  be  erected,  or  prescribe  the  height 
or  character  of  buildings,  and which  the  Local 
Government  Board,  having regard to the nature 
and  situation  of  the  land  affacted  by  the  pro­
visions, consider  reasonable  for  the  purpose."— 
(Mr.  Burns.)

Question  put, That  the  Amendment  be made.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 


206. 

Yeas, 

1 Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the j  Lord  Robert  Cecil, 
| Mr. Hicks  Beach : 

Noes, 

)  ^Q
j

Other  Amendments  made. 
Question  pnt,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
( Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Staveley-Hill, 

Noes, 

i Mr.  Fell-. 

)  ^qq
j
)
[ 

51. 

Question  put,  That  Clauses  No.  59  to  No.  73 

stand part  of  the  Bill. 

A  Clause  (Saving  of  sites of  ancient  monu­

ments, &c.)  added. 

Another  Clause  (Provisions  as  to  commons 

and open  spaces)  added. 

in 
Another  Clause  (Provisions  as  to  land 
neighbourhood  of  royal  palaces  or  parks)— 
(Mr.  Burns)—brought  up,  and  read  the  first 
time. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  be  added  to 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
I Captain  Norton : 

I  194 
) 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.Ramsay Macdonald,  )
1 

( Mr.  Keir  Hardie : 

Yeas, 

Noes, 
Another  Clause 

(Extension  of  power  of 
making  byelaws  with  respect  to  lodging-houses 
for the  working  classes)  added. 

Schedule  1. 
Question  put, That  this  be the  First  Schedule 

of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

(  201 
) 

Tellers  for the  ( Sir Frederick Banbury, 

Noes, 

1 Mr. Abel  Smith  : 

49. 

Schedules  2 and 3 agreed  to. 
Schedule  4. 
An  Amendment  made. 
Question  put, That this  Schedule, as amended, 

be the  Fourth  Schedule  of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers  for  the  ( Lord  Robert  Cecil,
I Viscount  Morpeth:

Noes, 

) 
j 

Schedules  5 and  6 agreed  to. 

192. 

47. 

Whereupon  the  Chairman,  in  pursuance  of 
the  Order  of the  House  of  the  15th  day of  June 
last,  left  the  Chair  to  report  the  Bill  to  the 
House, 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had gone  through  the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Bill  318. 

Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow ;  and  be  printed. 

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  Dunoon Burgh 
Third  Reading  of  the  Dunoon  Burgh  Bill B{11 [-&»«*«•] 
[Lords]; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  the 
third time ; 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
the  clock  on  Wednesday 

after  Twelve  of 
morning; 

Wednesday, 1 st  September  1909: 
An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  three  months."—(Mr. 
Morton.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That the  word 

'' now "  stand part of  the  Question; 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton: 

I 
j 
1 
I Mr. Mitchell-7'homson:  f 

200. 

53. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 

Tellers  for  the j  Sir  Henry  Craik, 

 
No. 130.]  9 EDW.  VII.  31st August—1st  September. 

4 17 


Cinemato­
graph  BiU. 

Tellers for thefMr. Ainsworth, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Lamont: 
Tellers  for the/ Mr.  Morton, 

Noes, 

IMr.  Watt: 

}

J 

59. 

11. 

So it  was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
And  the Main  Question  being  put; 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  now  read  the  third 
time:—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and passed, with  Amendments. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same, with  Amendments;  to 
which  this House  doth desire  the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to 
take into  consideration  the  Cinematograph  Bill, 
as amended  in the  Committee. 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Bill,  in p. 3,1.  13,  by  leaving  out  from  the 
word  "premises"  to  the  word  "for,"  in  1. 15, 
and  inserting  the  words  "connected  with  a 
church  or  chapel,  or  mission  hall,  or  public 
elementary  school, and  are  not  used  more  than 
one  evening  in  any  week  from  the  first  day 
of  October  to  the  thirty-first  day  of  March  in 
the  following  year."—(Mr.  Cooper.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed  to be left  out  stand  part  of  the 
Bill  :—The  said proposed  Amendment  was, with 
leave of the House,  withdrawn. 

Then  Amendments  were made to  the  Bill. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  now read  the  third 
time:—The  Bill  was accordingly  read the  third 
time and passed. 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the Lords,  and  desire their  concurrence. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Beading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a  second  time 

this  day. 

Child  Murder 
(Trial)  Bill 
[.Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [Lords'] ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to  


the  Lords,  and desire their  concurrence.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking London 
into consideration the  London Elections Bill  (not  Elections  Bill, 
amended  in the  Standing  Committee); 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this day. 


The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to  Weeds and 
take  into consideration  the  Weeds  and  Agricul-  Agricultural 
tural  Seeds  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  (jreland)  Bill. 
Committee. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  now read the  third  

time :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the  third  

time  and  passed.  


Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to  


the  Lords, and desire  their  concurrence.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Committee  on the  Customs  and Inland  Revenue Mand 
j g j jj  , 

Revenue  Bill, 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day,  


resolve itself into  the  said  Committee.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Local 


Second  Reading  of 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill;  

the  Local  Government 

Accounts) 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  (Ireland)  Bill, 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Lunacy 

Second  Reading  of  the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill;  

(Ireland)  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dublin Police 

Second  Reading  of  the  Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

this  day. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant  

to  the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th  

day of this  instant August, it  being  then  

one  minute  after  One  of  the  clock  on  

Wednesday  morning,  till  this  day.  


[No.  131.] 

Trustees'
Accounts  Bill.  T h i r  d  Reading  of  the  Trustees' Accounts  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  the  third time 

this day. 

Wednesday, 

September  1909. 

The  House  met at  a quarter  of  an hour 

before  Three  of  the  clock.  


P R A Y E R S. 

Parliamentary 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Seats (Peers ot  Second  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Seats 
Scotland)  Bill.  ( p e e rg   o f   g c o t l a n d)  B iU   . 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

Finance  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Telegraph 
(Arbitration) 
Bill. 

The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Telegraph  (Arbi-
tration)  Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing 
Committee). 

And  an Amendment  was made to  the  Bill. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be now read  the  third 
time:—-The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and passed. 
VOL.   164. 

SE V E R A  L  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  Public 

and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Petitions. 

T a b l e. 

^ ;

f

th 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Taxation  of 

Command,—Copy  of  Second  Series  of  Memo- Land'&c" 
randa  and  Extracts  relating  to  Land  Taxation 
and Land Valuation prepared  for  the  Chancellor 
of the  Exchequer. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table, 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Navy  ~ 
Command,—Copy  of  Statistical  Report  of  the (Health.) 
Health  of  the  Navy  for the year  1908. 

No•  272• 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Secretary  Sir Edward  Grey  presented, by  His  Trade  Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic  and (Al}nual 
series.) 

g  g 

 






418 	

1 st  September. 

1909. 

[No. 131. 


Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series, Nos. 4332  and 
4333. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Board of 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His 

a f d i t h e r i e s.  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Annual  Report 
for  1908  of  Proceedings  under  the  Small 
Holdings  and  Allotments  Act,  1908, and  other 
Acts. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper do lie  upon the 

Table. 

The  House, according to Order, resolved  itself Fi 

;  pill. 

into a Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  27  (Definitions). 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  18,1.  25, 
to  leave  out  from  the word  "  by "  to  the  first 
word  "  a,"  in  1. 27, in  order  to  insert  the  words 
"  this  Act,  or  any  fixed  charge  as  defined  by 
this  Act,  or  any  purely  incorporeal hereditament 
(other  than  a  profit  a  prendre  not  annexed 
to  any  other  land),  or  any  leasehold  interest 
under."—(Mr.  Attorney  General.) 

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904.  


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  words  


to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—  proposed  to be  left out stand part of  the Clause : 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
Borough  of  Newport  (Mon.)  under  the  Shop 
Hours Act, 1904, and confirmed  by the  Secretary 
of  State  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the 
hours of  closing for  certain  classes  of  Shops. 

Question  put, and  negatived. 
Question proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

Proposed  Amendment  amended  by  leaving 
out the words  "  (other  than  a  profit  a  prendre 
Ordered, That the  said Paper  do  lie  unon  the  not annexed to any other land)."—(Mr.  Attorney 

inserted  : 

Table. 

General.) 

Ways and 
Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 
resolve itself into a Committee  to  consider  of  the 
Ways  and  Means  for  raising  the  Supply  to  be 
granted to  His  Majesty.—(Mr.  Harcourt.) 

Proposed  words,  as amended, there  inserted. 
Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  18,1.  28, 

at the end, to  insert the  words— 

A  Motion  being  made, That  this  House  will, 
Finance 
[Consolidated  to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to 
Fund.] 	

"  The  expression  * incumbrance '  includes  a
mortgage  in fee or  for  a  less  estate, and  a trust 
for  securing  money,  and  a  lieu,  and a charge  of 
consider  of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of  a  portion,  annuity,  or  any  capital  or  annual 
the  Consolidated  Fund,  of  such sums as may  be  sum,  but  does  not  include  a  fixed  charge  as 
payable  under  any  Act  of  the  present  Session  defined by  this  Act. 
relating  to  Finance,  and  of  authorising  the 
payment  into  the  Exchequer  of  certain  duties 
now  payable  to  County  Councils—(Mr.  Har­
court) ; 

'  fixed  charge'  means  any 
rent-charge  as  defined  by  this  Act,  and  any 
burden  or charge  arising  by  operation  of  law  or 
imposed  by  any  Act  of  Parliament,  or  imposed 
Mr.  Harcourt,  by  His  Majesty's  Command,  in  pursuance  of  the  exercise  of  any  powers  or 
acquainted  the  House  that  His  Majesty, having  the  performance of  any duties  under  any  such 
been  informed  of  the  subject-matter  of  this  Act,  otherwise  than  by  a  person  interested  in 
Motion,  recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of  the land,  or in  consideration of  any  advance  to 
the  House. 

The  expression 

any  person  interested  in  the  land. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself into the said  Committee. 

The  expression  ' fee  simple'  means  the  fee 
simple  in  possession  not  subject  to  any  lease, 
but  does not include  an undivided  share in  a fee 
A  Motion  being  made.  That  this House  will,  simple  in  possession."—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 

to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to  Exchequer.) 

Development 
and  Boad 
Fund°Vement  c o n sider  of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of 
moneys provided  by  Parliament,  and  out  of  the 
[Money.] 
Consolidated  Fund,  of  such  sums  as  may  be 
Amendment, proposed to the  proposed  Amend-
payable  under  any  Act  of  the  present  Session 
to  promote  the  economic  Development  of  the  ment, to  leave  out  Is.  1  to  4,  inclusive.—(Mr. 
United  Kingdom  and the improvement  of  Roads  James Hope.) 
therein—(Mr. Harcourt)  ;  	

Question,  That  the words  proposed  to be left 
Mr.  Harcourt,  by  His  Majesty's  Command,  out  stand  part of  the proposed Amendment, put, 

Question  proposed, That those words  be  there 

inserted  : 

acquainted  the  House  that  His  Majesty, having  and agreed  to. 
been  informed  of  the  subject-matter  of  this 
Motion,  recommends  it  to  the  consideration  of 
the  House. 

Proposed  words  there  inserted. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  18,1.29, 
to  leave  out from  the  beginning  to  the  end  of 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,  1. 36.—(Sir  Seymour  King.) 

resolve  itself  into the said  Committee. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "  The 
expression  'owner'  "  stand  part  of  the  Clause : 

The  Yorkshire  Registries  Amendment  Bill  —Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Yorkshire 
Registries 
Amendment 	
Bill  [Lords.] 
Bill 319. 

[Lords]  was  read  the  first  time,  and  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time  upon  Tuesday  the 
14th  day  of  this instant  September;  and  to  be 
printed. 

The  Prisons  (Scotland)  Bill  [Lords] was read 

Prisons 
(Scotland")  ' 
Bill [Lords.] time to-morrow  ;  and  to be  printed. 

the first time, and ordered  to  be  read  a  second  inserted:—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in p.  18,  1. 29, 
after  the  word  "owner,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  does  not  include a mortgagee  out  of  possession, 
but."—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

Other  Amendments  made.  

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  18,1.  39,  

to  leave  out  the  words  " or for  market  gardens, 
nursery  grounds."—(Mr.  Abel Smith.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause.  


The  Summary  Jurisdiction  (Scotland)  Act, 
1908,  Amendment  Bill  [L,ords~\  was  read  the 
first time,  and  ordered  to  be  read a second  time 
to-morrow ;  and to  be  printed.  	

Bill 320. 	

Summary 
Jurisdiction 
(Scotland) 	
Act,  1908, 
Amendment 
Bill  [Lords.] 
Bill 321. 


131.]  9  E D W.   Y I I. 

1st—2nd  September. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the] Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

218. 

Tellers for the/ Sir  Henry  Kimber, 
[Mr .Joynson-Hicks: 

Noes, 

\ 
J 

Another  Amendment proposed, in p.  18,  1. 41, 
at  the  end,  to  add  the  words "  The  expression 
' reasonable  public  access,'  in  connection  with 
parks,  gardens,  or  open  spaces,  shall  include 
reasonable  access  by  any  of  the  military  forces 
of  the Crown for the purpose of  military training 
or the like."—(Lord  Robert  Cecil.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words  be there 

added :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as amended, 

stand part of the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the fMr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

! Captain Norton: 

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Peel, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks ; 

1 229 
J 
1  
f 

% 

Clause  No.  28  (Application  of  Part  I.  to 

Scotland). 

Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  19,  1. 8, 
to  leave out from the  word  "  otherwise "  to  the 
end of the paragraph.—(Mr.  Clyde.) 

Question  put, That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left out  stand part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 
m  „ 
j. 
Tellers for the i 
JNoes, 

,, 

(Captain  Norton : 

(Sir  Alexander Acland-


R o  < 

[Viscount  Valentia  : 

1  97. 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  19,1.  19, 
to leave  out from the  word  " possession "  to  the 
end  of  1. 22.—(Mr.  Clyde.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :— 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  19,1. 23, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  expression  ' freeholder ' 
includes  fiar,"  in  order  to  insert  the  words 
"  expressions  ' freeholder '  and  '  person  entitled 
to  the  freehold  of  the  land'  include."—(Mr. 
Scott  Dickson.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :— 
Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 19, Is.  28 
and 29, to  leave  out  the  words  "  and  Court  of 
Session  for  High  Court,"  in  order to  insert  the 
words "  ' Court  of  Session'  shall be  substituted 
for  High  Court.  Provided  that,  for  the  pur­
poses  of  the  appeal  to  the  High  Court  under 
section  twenty-two  hereof,  the  judges  of  the 
Court  of  Session  named  for  the  purpose  of 
hearing  appeals  under  the  Valuation  of  Lands 
(Scotland)  Acts  shall  be  substituted  for  the 
'  Sheriff  Court'  shall  be 
High  Court,  and 
substituted  for  County  Court." — (The  Lord 
Advocate.) 

Question,  That  the  words proposed  to  be left 
out  stand part of  the  Clause, put, and  negatived. 
Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed to the proposed  Amend­
ment,  in  1. 2,  to  leave  out  from  the  first  word 
"  Court"  to  the  end  of  the  proposed  Amend­
ment.—(Mr. Clyde.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 
left out  stand  part  of  the  proposed  Amendment. 

VOL.  164. 

4 19 


1 243 

/ 

92. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  thefMr.  Joseph Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton : 
fSir  Alexander Acland­

  i, 
mTellers tor  the)  Hood, 

Noes, 

[Viscount  Valentia:  


Proposed  words there inserted.  

Other  Amendments  made.  

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as amended,  


stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

1 Captain Norton : 
Tellers for the f Sir Henry  Craik, 

Yeas, 

j-  243. 

\  ^ 

Noes, 
Clause  No.  29 

LMr.  Mitchell-Thomson: / 
(Duties  on  excise 

liquor 

licences). 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Clause  be postponed.—(Mr.  George  Faber.) 

The Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thefMr.  George Faber, 

Yeas, 

IMr.  Younger : 

\  ^ 
J 

Tellers for the fMr.  Joseph  Pease, 

(  jgg  


Noes, 

(Captain  Norton: 

J 

An  Amendment  made.  

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 20,1.  7,  

after  the  word  "  paid,"  to  insert  the  words 
"except  in  Ireland."—(Mr.  John  Redmond.) 

Question  proposed,  That those  words  be  there 

|  235. 

inserted: 

Thursday, 2nd  September  1909 : 


Yeas, 

Question  put.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien,  ) 
j 
)  ^^q

j 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

( Mr.  Haviland-Burke: 

\ Captain  Norton : 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 20, I.  7,  

after  the  word  "paid,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  except  011  licences for  sale  within  the  county 
of  London."—(Mr.  William Pearce.) 

Noes, 

62. 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Whitbread, 

( Mr.  Bottomley : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton: 
To  report Progress, and ask leave  to  sit again. 


81. 

)  ^^ 
j 

Mr. Deputy  Speaker  resumed the Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had made  Progress  in  the 
Bill;  and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That 
the  Committee may  have leave to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve  itself into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  t h e r m  s and 
Committee  on  the  Customs  and Inland Revenue  Revenue Bm 
Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  ol  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-  ^tel^es 
Biil.  ag<SS 
gages  B i l l;  

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

3  H  2 

















420 

Is*—2nd  September. 

1909. 

[No. 132. 

Wild Animals 
in  Captivity 
Protection 
(Scotland) 
Bill. 

The  House,  according  to  Order, resolved itself 
in 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Wild  Animals 
Captivity  Protection  (Scotland)  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.  1 and No.  2 agreed  to. 
Bill to be  reported. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed  the  Chair ;  and 

the  Deputy  Chairman reported,  That  the  Com­
mittee  had  gone through  the Bill, and  directed 
him to  report  the  same, without  Amendment. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  now  read  the  third 
time:—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the  third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire  their  concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Parliamentary
M m S e c o n  d  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Seats 

(Peers  of  Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Trustees'
Accounts Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

  T h i r  d  R e a d i n g  of-the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  the third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

London 
Elections Bill. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee) ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this  day. 

Irish  Land 
Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
the  Irish  Land  Bill,  as 

into  consideration 
amended  in the  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read,  for taking 
into  consideration  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, 
&c. Bill,  as amended in  the  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

Local

?AuditTient
Accounts)
(Ireland)  Bill.

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Local  Government 

S e c o nd   Reading  of  the 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Lunacy
(Ireland) Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Lunacy  (Ireland)  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Dublin Police
BiiI-

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Deputy Speaker  adjourned 
the  House without  Question put, pursuant 
to  the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th 
day  of  August  last,  it  being  then  two 
minutes  before  Two  of  the  clock  on 
Thursday  morning,  till this  day. 

[No.  132.]  

Thursday, 2nd September  1909.  

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an hour 

before  Three  of  the  clock.  


P R A T E R S. 

THE  Aberdeen  Harbour  Order  Confirmation  Aberdeen 

Bill  was, according  to  Order, read  a second  S [  b o ur  

time, and ordered  to  be  taken  into  consideration  confirmation  

upon  Monday  next. 

Bill. 

Several Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public  


read ;  and ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

1 

Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 

Report. 


Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Trade Reports 

His  Majesty's Command,—Copies  of Diplomatic  (Annual 
and  Consular Reports,  Annual  Series, Nos. 4334 Ser,es  ) 
and 4335. 

Copy  of  Agreement  between  the  United  Treaty  Series 
Kingdom  and  the  United  States  of  America,  (N<>- 21>1909 )
for  the  submission  to  Arbitration  of  Questions 
relating  to  Fisheries  on  the  North  Atlantic 
Coast.  Signed  at  Washington,  27th  January 
1909. 

Ordered, That  the  said Papers do-lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His  Prisons  


Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  (England  and  

Commissioners  of  Prisons  and  the  Directors
of  Convict  Prisons  (Parts  I.  and  II.),  with 
Appendices,  for  the  year  ended  31st  March 
1909. 

aes'-)


Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Irish  Land 

Command, —  Copy  of  Report  of  the  Estates  Act.19o:!­
Commissioners  under the  Irish  Land  Act,  1903, 
for  the  year  ending  31st  March  1909,  and  for 
the  period  from  1st  November  1903  to  31st 
March  1909, with  Appendices. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-Army 

sented to  His Majesty, that He will be graciously  Promotions, 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before  this  House  a Return  showing  the average 
time  taken  from  the date of first commission  in 
attaining  respectively  the  ranks  of  Captain and 
of  Major  by Officers in the Cavalry,  Royal  Field 
Artillery,  Royal Engineers, Infantry, and  Indian 
Army  (in  continuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper, 
No.  221 of  Session  1903) :— 

Captain. 

Major. 

Years.  Months.  Years.  Months. 

1905 : 

Cavalry 
Artillery,  Field  


Garrison  ­

„ 
Engineers 

Infantry  ­
Indian  Army 

1908 : 

Cavalry 
Artillery,  Field  


Garrison  ­

„ 
Engineers 

Infantry  ­
Indian Army 

—(Mr.  Annan  Bryce.) 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




­
­
­
­
No.  M  ] 

Vagrancy  Act 
(1824) 
Amendment 
BIU. 

Bill  322. 

9  E D W.   V I I. 

2nd—Sri September. 
Mr.  Luttrell,  supported  by  Mr.  Bright,  Mr.  Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 
S runner,  and Mr.  Ponsonby, presented  a Rill  to  Chairman  do report  Progress,  and  ask  leave to 
amend  section  four  of  the  Vagrancy  Act,  1824, 
and for other  purposes  incidental  thereto  :  And 
the  same  was  ordered  to be  read  a second  time 
upon  Monday  next;  and  to be  printed. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  thefMr.  Harmood-Banner, 

sit again.— (Mr.  Harmood-Banner.) 

4 21 

Finance  Bill.

The  House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on the Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  29  (Duties  on  excise 

liquor 

licences). 

. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 20,  1. 8, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "manufacture  or."— 
(Colonel  Hall  Walker.) 

Question  put,  That  the words proposed  to  be 

left out stand  part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the f Mr. Joseph Pease,

Yeas, 

i Captain  Norton :

Tellers for  the/Colonel  Hall  Walker,

Noes, 

(Mr.  Remnant:

|
J 
)
J 

,,, 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  20,1.  8, 
to  leave  out the  words  "  or  sale."—(Mr.  George
Faber.) 

Question  put,  That  the words proposed  to be 

left out stand part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  thefMr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the/Mr.  George  Faber, 

Noes, 

(Mr. Gave-. 

j  1 8 6. 

1  108. 

Friday,  3rd  September  1909 : 

An  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 20,  1.  I l, 
after  the  words  last  added,  to  add  the  words 
"  and  the  said  duties  shall be  payable  as to  one 
moiety  on the dates specified  in this  Act,  and  a3 
to  the other moiety within three  calendar months 
of  such date."—(Colonel  Hall  Walker.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

added  :—Amendment,  by  leave, withdrawn. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of the  Bill. 

Yeas, 

i'Mr.  Remnant: 

Tellers  for thefMr.   Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

(Captain  Norton: 
Question  put,  That  the  words proposed  to  be 
left  out,  to  the  first  word  "  the,"  in  1. 17, stand 
part of  the  Clause. 

79. 

( 
j 
1 126. 
J 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for thefMr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 
Tellers for  the/Sir  Frederick  Banbury, 1  78. 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Cave : 

J 

\126. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 20,1  17, 
at the  end,  to  insert  the  words  "but  the  Com 
missioners  of  Customs  and  Excise  shall  allow 
as  a  deduction  so  much of  the annual  value  of 
the  said  premises  which  are  used  for  any 
business  or  purpose  distinct  from  and  indepen­
dent of  the use of  the  premises  for  the  Sale  of 
intoxicating  liquors."—(Mr.  Barnard.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thel Mr.  Barnard, 

Yeas, 

(Colonel  Hall  Walker :  }

71. 

Tellers  for the) Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Captain  Norton : 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 20,  1.  18, 
to  leave  out  subsection  (2). —  (Sir  Frederick 
Banbury.) 

j - 1 2 0. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out, to  the word "  as," in  1, 18, stand 
part of  the  Clause : 

To  report Progress,  and ask leave  to sit again. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the 
Bill;  and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That 
the Committee  may  have leave to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself  into the said  Committee-

Resolved, That  this  House  do  now  adjourn.—Adjournment. 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thefMr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the 

Alexander  Acland­

Noes, 

(Viscount  Valentia : 

155, 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

96. 

tinued to sit till twenty-six minutes before 

Three  of  the  clock  on  Friday  morning,  

adjourned till this  day.  


Clause  No.  30  (Valuation  of  licensed  pre­

mises). 

Amendment proposed,  in p.  20,  1.  13, to  leave 
out from  the  word  " b  e  "  to the  word  "  and," in 
1.  16, in order  to  insert  the  words  "the  annual 
value  of  that  part  of  the  premises  in  which 
intoxicating  liquor  is sold  and  consumed."—(Sir 
Frederick  Banbury.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be left out, from the word  "  be "  to  the  word 
"  and,"  in  1.  16,  stand  part  of  the  Clause:— 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

A n  Amendment  made.  •  

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  20,1.16,  

to  leave  out  from  the  word  "licence"  to  the 
end of  subsection  (1)»—-(Sir  Frederick Banbury.) 
Question  proposed,  That  the  Words  proposed 
to  be  left  out,  to the first  word  " the,"  in  1,  1 7, 
stand part of the  Clause: 

V O L.  1 6 4. 

[No.  133.] 

Friday,  3rd September  1909. 

The  House  met at Twelve  of  the  clock. 

P  R A T E R S. 
HI1E  TafF  Vale  Railway  Bill  (changed from  Taff  Vale 
1  TafF Vale  Railway  (Cardiff Railway, Vest-   Railway  Bill 
ing)  Bill)  [ Lords]  was read  the  third time and  ^ H t l A Z­
passed, with Amendments. 
way  (Cardiff 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to  ^g^ili)^8*" 

the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House [lards.] 
hath agreed  to the  same, with  Amendments ;  to 
which this House doth  desire the concurrence  of 
their Lordships. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented,  and  Public 

read  ;  and  Ordered  to lie upon the  Table. 

3  H  3 

Vide Fifth 

Report. 

 
 
 
4 22 

3rd September, 

1 9 0 9. 

[ K O . 1 3£ 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Appendix  to the  Eroposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "  as,"  in 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  words 

Poor Laws and  Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Relief  of 
Distress 
Report  of  the  Royal  Commission  on Poor  Laws 
(Royal 
Commission.)  and Relief  of Distress.  Volume X I I I  .  Special 
in  England  and 
Reports  from  the  . Dioceses 
Wales  as to the extent and intensity  of  Poverty, 
and the  administration  of  Charitable  and  Poor" 
Law  Relief. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Irish Land 
Commission. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Return  of  Advances  made 
under  the  Irish  Land  Act,  1903,  during  the 
month of  December  1908. 

Copy of Forty-seventh Report of  the Inspector 
of  Reformatory  and  Industrial  Schools  in  Ire-
land, for the year  1908.  


Reformatory 
and  Industrial 
Schools 
(Ireland.) 
Diseases of 
Copy  of  Report  of  Proceedings  by  the 
Animals Acts.  Department  of  Agriculture  and  Technical  In-
struction  for  Ireland  under  the  Diseases  of 
Animals  Acts,  1894 to  1903, for  1908. 

Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
Supreme 
Court of 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Judicature 
Act  (Ireland),  Order  in  Council  under  the  Supreme  Court  

1877. 

of  Judicature  Act  (Ireland),  1877,  dated  31st 
August  1909, giving  effect to  Rules  of  Court. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Local 
Taxation 
(Scotland.) 
N o.  273. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to 
the  directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
(Scotland) 
of  the  Annual  Local  Taxation 
Returns  for  the year  1907-8. 

18, stand part of  the  Clause : 
Mr.  Herbert  Samuel  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

Question put,  That  the Question  be  now  put.  Question put 
(pursuant to 
The  Committee  divided. 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 
Tellers for  the j  Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the ( 
Noes,

]
j  Sir  Edward Strachey :  j 
Sir  A lexander Acland­

1  Hood, 
(  Viscount  Valentia  : 

158. 

91. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "  as,"  in 
1. 18, stand  part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for  the  ( Captain  Norton, 

1 

.. 

Yeas, 

| Sir Edward  Strachey :  j  185* 

Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Salter, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Staveley-Hill: 

1 
j 

y4' 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 20,  1. 19, 

to leave  out the words "  and to  keep  corrected." 
—(Mr.  James  Ilope.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words proposed  to  be 

left out  stand part of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  j Captain  Norton, 

1

Yeas, 

( Sir  Edward  Strachey : j  143. 


Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr. James Hope, 

Noes, 

}  Mr.  Arkwright: 

)

[

83. 

Trade Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 20,1.  20, 
Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey presented, by  His  after  the  word  "  respectively,"  to  insert  the 
Majesty's Command,— Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  words  " in England and Wales."—(Mr. Younger.)
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4336 
Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 
and 4337. 

inserted. 


Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie  upon the 


Table. 

Finance  Bill, 

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved itself 

into  a Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  30  (Valuation  of  licensed  pre-

mises). 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  20,1.  18, 
(2).—(Sir  Frederick 

to  leave  out  subsection 
Banbury.) 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "  as,"  in 
I.  18, stand part of  the  Clause : 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Chairman  do  report  Progress,  and  ask 
leave  to  sit  again—(Mr.  Patrick  White)  :— 
Debate  arising; 

Mr.  Herbert  Samuel  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
OL Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question  be  now put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the j  Captain  Norton, 

) 
j 
1 
}

76. 

135. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Younger, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Timothy Healy : 

Tellers for  the j  Captain  Norton, 

Noes, 

( Mr,  Gulland: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 20,  1. 24, 
to leave out from  the word  "  A c t  "  to  the  word 
"  That,"  in  1. 27.—(Mr.  George  Faber.) 
'  Question  proposed,  That  the  words "  and  of  " 
stand  part of  the  Clause :—Debate  arising  ; 
:  Mr.  Herbert  Samuel  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

Question put,  That  the  Question  be  now  put.  Question  put 
(pursuant to 
The  Committee  divided. 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 
Tellers for the  ( Mr,  Joseph  Pease,

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton: 

117. 

Tellers for the j  ^^xander 

Noes 
' 

. H o o d> 

i 
i  Viscount  Valentia: 

Acland-  } 
( 
|


64< 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words 

"  and   o f  "  stand  part   of  the  Clause. 

Yeas, 

| Mr.  Fuller; 

Sir  Alexander  Acland- i

Tellers  for  the •j  Hood, 

Noes, 

(  Viscount  Valentia : 

1 6 8. 

I  92. 
) 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

j  Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for  the J Mr.  George Faber, 

Question  put accordingly,  That  the  Chairman 

do report  Progress, and ask leave  to  sit  again. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the |  Mr.  Patrick  White, 
( Mr.  Timothy Healy : 

) 
}
) 
{  Sir  Edward Strachey.  j 

Tellers for the j  Captain  Norton, 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Younger : 
Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That  

the  Chairman  do report  Progress,  and ask  leave  

to  sit  again —  (Mr.  A usten  Chamberlain) :  —

9 4.  Motion, by  leave,  withdrawn. 
:  Another  Amendment  made. 
; Another  Amendment  proposed,   in  p.  20,  1,  27, 

185. 

116. 

61. 


No. 133.]  9  E D W.   V I I. 

3rd—6th  September. 

423 

after  the  word  "  value),"  to  insert  the  words 
"  that equivalent being determined in accordance 
with  regulations  made  by  the  Treasury."—(Mr. 
' Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

Question  proposed,  That those words be  there 

inserted; 

Proposed  Amendment  amended,  in  1.  2,  by 
inserting, after the word "  determined," the words 
"for  the  purposes  of  this  Act." —  (Viscount 
Castlereagh.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words,  as amended, 

be  there  inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

1 Captain Norton : 

Tellers for  the 

I^T 
JNOes, 

Alexander Acland-

\  Hood, 
( Viscount  Valentia: 

J 

104. 

50. 

Another  Amendment made. • 
To  report  Progress, and ask leave to  sit again. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  United States 

Command-Copy  of  the  Act  of  Congress, 
approved  the  5th  August  1909,  entitled  An  Tariff.) 
Act  to  provide  revenue,  equalise  duties,  and 
encourage  the  industries  of  the  United  States, 
and  for  other  purposes ;  to the dutiable  list  of 
which  have  been  added,  as  far  as possible, the 
former Rates  of  Duty  on  the  articles  specified 
in the  new  Tariff, for purposes  of  comparison. 

Copy  of  Return  of  all  Ships  ordered by  the Merchant 
Board of  Trade or its  Officers, during the  period  f^P4nf<^tS' 
from  1st  July  1908  to  30th June  1909, to  be (Vessels 
provisionally  detained  as  unsafe,  together  with  Detained.) 
Summaries,  &c. 

Ordered, That the  said  Papers do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  there be laid before this House  Customs and 

a Copy  of  explanatory  Memorandum  on  Clauses 
3,  5,  7,  and  9  of  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill.—(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

Bill 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman reported,  That the  Committee 
had made  Progress  in the  Bill;  and that  he was 
directed  to  move,  That the  Committee  may have 
leave to  sit  again. 

Resolved, That this  House  will, upon  Tuesday 
next, again resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Ordered,  That  there be laid  before  this House  Irish  Land 

a Return  of  Guaranteed  Two  and three-quarter  Stock, 
per  Cent.  Stock  issues under the Irish Land  Act, 
1903,  in the following  form :— 

Date of 

Issue. 

Amount.  Price. 

Cash 

Product. 

Annual Charge 

on  Ireland  

Deficit.  Development 


Grant for 

Excess  Stock.  


Adjournment.  Resolved, That  this  House  do now  adjourn.— 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to sit  till  six  minutes  after  Eight 
of  the clock,  adjourned  till  Monday  next. 

—(Mr.  Hugh  Barrie.) 

[No.  134.] 

Monday,  Qth  September  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

Aberdeen  THE  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded 

Harbour 
to  take  into  consideration  the  Aberdeen 
Order 
Confirmation  Harbour  Order  Confirmation  Bill,  as amended 
Bill. 

in  the  Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  the third  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 
Report. 

Several  Public  Petitions were presented, and 

read  ;  and ordered  to lie  upon the  Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented, pursuant  to  the  direc-
Local 
Registration 
tions of  an Act   of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Rule 
(Ireland) Act,  under  the Local  Registration  of  Title  (Ireland) 
'  Act,  189.1,,dated28th  July 1909, as to  enforcing 
1891. 

payment  of  costs  by  Writ  of Fi.  Fa. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Education 
The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His 
(Scotland.)  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Minute  of  the 
Committee  of  Council on Education  in  Scotland, 
dated 6th September 1909, amending  the Minute 
of  10th August  1909,  altering  the  constitution 
of  the  Committees  on  Secondary  Education  for 
various districts  in  Scotland. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

VOL.  164. 

Mr.  Hazleton,  supported  by  Mr.  Sloan  and  Volunteer 

Mr.  Glendinning, presented  a  Bill  to  provide 
for  the  establishment  and  regulation  of  a 
Volunteer Civil  Guard  in  Ulster :  And  the same 
was  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  upon 
Monday  next;  and to  be printed. 

(Ulster)  Bill. 
Bill  323 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented  a  Bill  to  Police Bill, 
amend  the  Metropolitan  Police  Acts,  1829  to  Bill 324. 
1899,  and  to  make  better  provision  for  the 
widows and children of  constables  who lose  their 
lives  in  the  execution  of  their duty  :  And  the 
same was ordered  to  be read  a second time  upon 
Thursday  next;  and to be  printed. 

M r.  Jeremiah Mac Veagh,  supported  by  Dr.  Health Resorts 

Ambrose,  Mr.  Hugh  Barrie,  Mr.  Boland,  Mr.  * ^ a t a r i ng 
Thomas  Corbett,  Captain  Craig, Captain Donetan,  (Ireland)  Bill. 
Mr.  Glendinning,  Mr.  Gwynn,  Mr.  Murphy,  Bill 325. 
Mr.  CMalley,  and  Mr.  Scanlan,  presented  a 
Bill  to  empower  local  authorities  in Ireland  to 
strike  a rate for  advertising  Health  Resorts  and 
Watering  Places :  And  the  same was ordered to 
be read  a second  time upon  Friday  next;  and to 
be  printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Development 

Second  Reading  of  the Development  and  Road 
Improvement  Funds Bill  ; 

Funds Bill. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day  three  months."—(Lord 
Robert  Cecil.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  "  now "  stand  part of  the  Question  :—And 
a Debate  arising  thereupon  ;, 

3  H  4 

424 	

6 th—1th  September, 

1909. 

[No. 134. 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after  Twelve  of the  clock  on  Tuesday  morning  ; 

Tuesday, 1th September  1909 : 
Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in his 
place  and  claimed  to  move, That  the  Question 
be now  put. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That the  Ques­

tion  be now put  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Eight; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 

Amendment  proposed,  in paragraph  (a), after 

the  word  "Parliament,"  to  insert  the  words  

"  not  exceeding  one  hundred  thousand  pounds."  

—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.)  


Question  proposed, That  those words be  there  


inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn.  


Another  Amendment  proposed,  after the word  

"  eleven,"  to  leave  out  the  words  "  and  in  each  

four  years."  —  (Sir  

of  the  next  succeeding 
Frederick  Banbury.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words proposed  to  be  


left out stand part  of  the  Question.  


Tellers for  the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

\ j jg 


The  Committee  divided. 

Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Yeas, 

I Sir Edward  Strachey:  I 
Tellers for the/Sir  Frederick  Banbury, \ 
\Mr.  Peel  -. 
J 

Noes, 

So it was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 
And the  Question  being  accordingly  put, That 

the  word  "  now "  stand part of  the  Question ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for thefMr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Sir  Edward  Strachey  : 

Tellers for  thej Lord  Robert  Cecil, 
l Viscount  Morpeth : 

Noes, 

1

/ 137. 

So it was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
And  the  Main  Question  being  put; 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time:—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  a  second 
time. 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being 
put, That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a  Committee 
of  the whole  House—( Mr.  Chaplin); 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 

Tellers for  the(BirAle*ander
flood, 

Yeas, 

<, 
[Viscount  Valentia  : 

Acland~

21. 

Development 
and  Boad 
Improvement 
Funds 
[Money,] 

Tellers for thej Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

^ J28 

Noes, 

[ Sir  Edward  Strachey :  J 

So it  passed  in the  Negative. 
The  Bill  was committed  to  a  Standing  Com­

mittee. 

The House, according  to Order, resolved  itself 
into  a  Committee  on  Development  and  Road 
Improvement  Funds  [Money]. 

(In the  Committee.) 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
for  the  purposes  of  any  Act  of  the  present 
Session  to  promote  the  economic  development 
of  the  United  Kingdom  and the improvement  of 
Roads  therein  it is expedient  to  authorise— 

(a)  the	  payment  to  the  Development  Fund 
for  the  purpose  of  advances of  such moneys 
as  may  from  time  to  time  be  provided  by 
Parliament,  and  the  charge  on  the  Con­
solidated  Fund  and  payment 
Development  Fund  of  a  sum  of  five  hun­
dred  thousand  pounds  in  the  year  ending 
the  thirty-first  day  of  March  nineteen 
hundred  and eleven, and  in  each of  the next 
succeeding  four years ;  and 

into  the 

(b)  the  charge	  on  the  Consolidated  Fund  of 
the  payment  of  interest  and  repayment  of 
the principal  of  any money  borrowed  under 
such  Act  to  an  amount  not  exceeding  two 
hundred thousand pounds  in any year, so far 
as the  Road  Improvement  Grant  is  unable 
to  meet the  same. 

— ( M r.  Chancellor   of  the  Exchequer.) 

„,


Tellers  for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Sir  Edward Strachey 


Tellers for the  ( Sir Frederick Banbury,  ) 
j 

( Mr.  Bowles-. 

Noes, 

105. 


„


Main  Question  again  proposed  :  

Mr.  Chancellor'of  the  Exchequer  rose  in his 

place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  

be  now  put.  


Question  put,  That  the  Question  be now  put. Question  put 
(pursuant to 
The  Committee  divided.  	
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

( Sir  Edward  Strachey: 

Tellers for the  ( Lord  Robert  Cecil, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Bowles : 
Main  Question,  That for the purposes  of  any 

Act  of  the  present  Session  to  promote  the 

economic  development  of  the  United  Kingdom  

and  the  improvement  of  Roads  therein  it  is  

expedient  to  authorise—  


103. 


) 
j 

6. 

(a)  the  payment	  to  the  Development  Fund  

for  the purpose  of  advances of  such  moneys  

as  may from  time  to  time  be  provided  by  

Parliament,  and  the  charge  on  the  Con­
solidated  Fund  and  payment 
Development  Fund  of  a  sum  of  five  hun­
dred  thousand  pounds  in  the  year  ending  

the  thirty-first  day  of  March  nineteen 
hundred  and eleven, and in each of the  next  

succeeding four years ;  and  


into  the 

(b)  the	  charge  on  the  Consolidated  Fund  of  

the  payment  of  interest  and  repayment  of  

the principal  of  any money  borrowed  under  

such  Act  to  an  amount  not  exceeding  two  

hundred  thousand  pounds in any year, so far 

as the Road  Improvement  Grant  is unable  

to meet  the same,  


put accordingly,  and agreed  to. 
Resolution  to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman reported, That the Committee 
had come to  a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 

Committee  on the  Customs  and Inland  Revenue  Inland 
JJJJJ .	 

Bevenue Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for taking  Oaths Bill, 

into  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill,  as amended in 
the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  further 

consideration  this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways and 

Committee  of  Ways  and  Means;

Meana-

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 





	






No. 1 3 4] 

9  E D W.  Y I I. 

6th—1th  September. 

Expiring  Laws  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Continuance   g e c o n ( i  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con­

tinuance  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Child Murder 
(Trial)  Bill 
[ Lords.] 

The  Order  o f  the  day  being  read,  f or  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [.Lords] ; 

Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return  to an Order, Customs and 
B m 

dated the  6th day of  this instant  September, for  
a  Return  relative  to  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill  (Explanatory  Memorandum  on 
Clauses 3, 5, 7, and  9). 

.  ' 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Resolved,  That this  House  do  now  adjourn.—  Adjournment. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

this  day. 

Irish  Land 
BiU- 

The  Order  of  the  day  being read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Irish  Land  Bill,  as 
amended in the  Committee ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Thursday  next. 

• 

^ocal 
(Audit of 6" 
Accounts) 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  


Second  Reading  of  the  Local  Government 
(Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland),Bill;  


0 r d e r e d  >  That  the said  Order  be  discharged.  


Ordered, That the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit till five minutes after Two  of  

the  clock  on Tuesday  morning,  adjourned  

till  this day. 


[No.  135.] 

Tuesday, 1th September  1909. 
The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 

before  Three  of the  clock.  


P R A Y E R S. 

J f ' h i n d)  Bill 
Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(  re an )  I   g e e o i l ( j  fteading  of  the  Lunacy (Ireland)  Bill  ; 
Ordered, That the  said  Order be  discharged. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

Dublin  Police 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-
gages! Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a'second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Jnion  Officers 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Second  Reading  of the  Union  Officers  (Ireland) 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking: 
London 
Elections  Bill.  into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill 

(not  amended in  the Standing  Committee); 

SE V E R A  L  Public Petitions  were  presented,  Public 

and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the 

rr,  ,  , 
l a b l e.

, •

r

Vide  Fifth 
Report. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Public 
Command,—Copy  of  Forty-first  Report  of  the  Records 
Deputy  Keeper  of  the  Public  Records 
Ireland, for  the  year  1908. 

in (IrelaIld-) 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

,  Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,—Return  Army 
to  an  Address  to  His  Majesty,  dated the  2nd  Promotions, 
day  of  this  instant  September,  for  a  Return  No. 275. 
relative to  Army  Promotions* 

Ordered,  That the said Return do lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the Irish Land 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of Act>1903­
Regulations,  dated  26th  August  1909, made by 
the  Treasury, amending  Rule  12  of  the  Rules 
and  Regulations  made  on  14th  April  1905 
under  Section  41 of the  Irish  Land  Act,  1903. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

Table. 


sideration  this day. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning,  &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order of  the day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the Housing,  Town  Planning, 
&c. Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

Mr.  Runciman presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Board  of  

C o m j n a n d , —C o p  y  of  Regulations  providing  for  Education.  

Special Grants in Aid of certain Local Education 

Authorities  in England  and  Wales  in  1909-10.  


Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon the 


Table. 


Coal  Mines 
Regulation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the . day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this day. 

Finance 
SWO 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  On Finance  [Consolidated  Fund] ; 

Mr.  Sydney Buxton presented, pursuant to  the  Post Office 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of f o r e i gn  and 
the  Foreign  and  Colonial  Post 
(Cash  on

Deliverv)  Amendment  (No.   8)  Warrant,  1909,  

dated  23rd  August  1909.  


o o ma 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the  


Table. 


Arthur  Alfred  Lynch,  Esquire,  Member  for New  Member 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

the  County  of  Clare  (West  Clare),  was  sworn,  sworn. 

resolve  itself into  the said  Committee. 

Prisons 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

B u T f S .  l  Second  Reading  of  the  Prisons  (Scotland)  Bill 

[Lords] ; 
" 
this  dav. 

VOL.  164. 

: Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

•"••'•"' 

. 

. 

The  House, according to  Order, resolved  itself Finance  Bill, 

into  a Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.)  


Clause No. 30 (Valuation of licensed premises). 

Another  Amendment  made.  


3  I  




 
 
 
 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  20,1.  28, 
at  the  end, to  insert  the  words  "  and  any  such 
certificate  shall  be subject  to  the like  appeal  as 
that  to  which  the  determination  of  the  Com­
missioners of  Inland Eevenue of  the amount to be 
paid  for  compensation  under  subsection  two  of 
section  two  of  the  Licensing  Act,  1904, is  for 
the time being subject."-—(Mr. Solicitor  General.) 

Question  proposed, That  those words be there 

inserted : 

Amendment proposed to the proposed  Amend­
ment, in 1. 1, after the word " certificate," to insert 
the  words "  including  the  amount  of  the  annual 
compensation  value  determined  by  regulations 
as aforesaid."—(Mr.  Balfour.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words be there 

inserted  in  the  proposed  Amendment:—Amend­
ment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Proposed  words there  inserted. 
Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment proposed, in  p.  20,1.  28, 
at the end, to insert the  words " Any  regulations 
made  under this section  shall be  laid before each 
House  of  Parliament  for  a  period  of  not  less 
than  thirty  days  during  the  Session  of  Parlia­
ment, and if  either House  before  the  expiration 
of  that period presents an Address to His  Majesty 
against such  regulations,  or  any  part  thereof, no 
further  proceedings  shall  be taken  thereon,  but 
without  prejudice  to  the  making  of  any  new 
draft regulations."—(Viscount  Castlereagh.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the j  Viscount  Castlereagh, ) 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

( Mr. Watson Rutherford'.  J 89. 
)  jg^ 
) 

( Captain  Norton: 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Another Amendment  made. 

.  Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 20,1.  34, 
to  leave out. subsection (3). —(Mr. Staveley-Hill.) 
Question  proposed,  That  the words  proposed 
to he left out, to  the word  " make," in 1.35, stand 
part of  the  Clause:—Debate  arising  ,* 

The  Prime  Minister  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed to move, That  the  Question be  now put. 
Question  put,  That  the  Question  be now put. 
The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Captain  Norton : 

186. 

Tellers for the. ( S i  r  Alexander 

Acland-  ) 

Noes 
' 

'
H o o d  

( Viscount  Valentia: 

1 0 5

' 

) 

Question put
(pursuant to
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.)

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words 
proposed  to be  left out,  to the word  "  make," in 
1. 35, stand part of the  Clause. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 


Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Staveley-Hill,  


j  199. 

J  109. 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Arkwright: 
Another  Amendment proposed,  in p. 20,1.  36, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word "  in "  to  the  word 
"  for,"  in 1.37, in order  to  insert  the  words "  the 
form prescribed  in the  Seventh  Schedule  to this 
Act,  and  giving  the  particulars  therein  named, 
or  such  of  them  as  the  Commissioners  may 
require."—(Mr.  Frederick Edwin Smith.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to be  left out,  to  the word  "  the,"  in p.  20,  1. 36, 
stand  part  of  the  Clause:—Amendment,  by 
leave, withdrawn. 

. 

[No. 135. 

Another  Amendment made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  20,1.  42, 

at the  end,  to add  the  words— 

"  (4)  The  licence-holder  shall  be informed  of 
the factors  and  method  of  calculation  by  which 
such compensation value and annual compensation 
value,  respectively, are arrived  at, and  he  shall 
be  entitled  to  show cause  against  the  same, and 
against  the  amount  proposed  to  be  registered 
and certified."—(Sir  Henry  Kimber.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words be there 

added :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause,  as 
amended,  stand  part  of  the  Bill:—Debate 
arising; 

Mr.  Edmund  Lamb  rose  in  his  place  and Closure 

claimed  to  move, That the  Question  be now  put; 
but  the  Chairman  withheld  his  assent,  and withholds his 
declined  then  to  put  that  Question  :— Debate  assent, 
resumed. 

The  Prime  Minister  rose 

in  his  place  and 
claimed  to move,  That the  Question be  now put. 

Question  put,  That the  Question  be now  put.  Question put 
(pursuant to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate-> 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

lg3 

j 
) 
( Captain  Norton : 
f Sir  Alexander Acland- ^ 


Tellers  tor the t  Hood, 

' (  Viscount  Valentia : 

83. 


) 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause, 

as amended,  stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 


193. 

Tellers for the 
Noes, 

Sir Alexander Acland-


Hood, 

!•  84. 

Viscount  Valentia : 

Clause  No.  31  (Reduction  of  duty  in  case  of 

hotels  or  restaurants). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  21,1.  1, to  leave 

out the  word  "  Where."—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  Where  " 

stand part of the  Clause  :—Debate  arising  ; 

Mr.  Herbert  Samuel  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move, That the Question  be now  put. 

Question put,  That  the Question  be now put.  Question put 
(pursuant to 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

,, 
Tellers  for the )  Hood, 

( Captain Norton : 

( Sir Alexander Acland-


' 1 Viscount  Valentia: 

Yeas, 
« 

Noes, 

S.O. Closure 
Debate-^

1  ^^ 

111. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  word 

"  Where "  stand part of  the  Clause. 

Yeas, 
„ 

Noes, 

198. 

I  114  

j 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for  the  1  Mr.  Cave, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Lane-Fox: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 21,1.  1,  

after  the  word  "  any,"  to  insert  the  word  "  or." 
—(Mr.  Gibbs.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  o r"  be 
there  inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  with­
drawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  21,1.  1, 
to leave out the words "  which  are fully  licensed 
premises."—(Mr.  Younger.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :— 
Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

 
 
 




No. 135.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

7th—8th  September. 

Amendments made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 21,1.  7, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  one-third,"  in order  to 
insert the words "  one-half."—(Mr.  Gibbs.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  " one-third  " 

)  ^gg 
)

\  IQ"?  

j 

stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  the ( Mr.  Gibbs, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Goulding: 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  21,  I. 9, 
to  leave  out. from  the word  "  premises "  to the 
end  of  the  subsection,  in  order  to  insert  the 
words  "such  premises  shall  be  exempt from the 
duties specified  in the  First  Schedule, and  shall 
be  charged  according  to  the  rates  of  duty 
heretofore  applicable  to  licensed  premises."— 
(Mr.  Lane-Fox.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "subject,"  in  1. 10, 
stand  part of  the Clause :—Debate  arising  ; 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment proposed, in p. 21,1,  26, 

at the  end, to  insert the* words— 

"  The  factors upon  which, and  the method  or 
process  of  calculation  by  which,  such  annual 
compensation  value  is  to  be  ascertained  shall 
be  communicated  to  the  licence-holder,  with, 
such  information  as  shall  enable  him  to  inform 
himself  of  the  liabilities  about  to  be  imposed 
on his  property and  business within  a reasonable 
time  before  he  is  called  upon  to  exercise  the 
alternative  option  given him  by this section, and 
before  his time for appealing  expires. 

The  Commissioners  shall,  in  certifying  such 
value,  have  regard  to  the  total  receipts  from 
sales of  excisable  liquors  on  the  premises, and 
the  licence  duty  payable  by  one  licensee  shall 
not bear a greater  ratio  to his said  receipts than 
that payable  by any  other  licensee. 

The  right of  appeal  given by  section  thirty  of 
this  Act  shall  extend  to  the  subject-matter  of 
this section."—(Mr.  George  Faber.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

Wednesday, 8th  September  1909 : 

inserted. 

The  Prime  Minister  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to move, That  the  Question  be now put. 
Question  put,  That  the  Question  be now  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

)  ^ 
( Captain Norton: 
) 
{  Sir  Alexander  Acland- v


Yeas, 
„ 

. 
„  „ 
Tellers for  the J  H o o dj  

Noes, 

( Viscount  Valentia: 

f  94. 
}

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words 
proposed  to be  left out, to  the  word  "  subject," 
in  L  10, stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 
1 Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Lane-Fox, 

Noes, 

(  Mr.  Gibbs: 


162. 

93. 

) 
)

) 
j 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  21,  I. 10, 
to  leave  out from the  word  "  shall "  to  the  word 
"  be,"  in  1. 11.—(Earl  Winterton.) 

Question  put, That  the  words  proposed  to be 

left  out stand  part of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Mr. Joseph  Pease, 
|  Captain .Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the  ( Earl  Winterton, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Fell: 

)  . 
j 

73. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  George Faber, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Lane-Fox: 

Tellers  for  the  1  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

|  Captain  Norton-. 

)  61. 
) 
1
j 

128. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 21,1.  28, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "one-tenth  of  the  full 
duty,"  in order to insert the words ."one-thirtieth 
of  the annual value of  the  premises  in  the case 
of  fully  licensed  premises,  and  in any  other  case 
one-fifteenth of  the full duty,"—(Mr.  Chancellor 
of  the  Exchequer.) 

Question, That the  words proposed  to  be  left 
out stand  part of the Clause, put, and  negatived. 
Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Cave, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Arkwright: 

j
j 
)  g-,
j 

Other Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment proposed, in p. 22,1. 9, to 
leave out from the first word " section " to the end 
of the subsection.—(Mr.  Austen Chamberlain.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word 

" b u t  " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause: —  Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Chairman  do  report  Progress,  and  ask 
leave  to  sit again—(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain)  : 
—Debate  arising; 

Mr.  Myer  rose  in  his  place  and  claimed  to 

move, That  the  Question  be now  put. 

Question  put, That  the  Question be  now put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton: 

| 121. 
j 

Tellers for the j  Mr. Watson Rutherford,  ) 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Courthope: 
To  report  Progress, and ask leave to  sit again. 

j 

54. 

Yeas, 

| Captain  Norton: 

)  , „ . 
} 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate,) 

Tellers for the  ^Alexander  Acland-
)  Hood, 
( Viscount  Valentia : 

Noes 
' 

67. 

Question put accordingly,  That  the  Chairman 

do  report  Progress,  and ask leave to sit  again. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Lord  Balcarres, 
1 Mr.  Pike Pease : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the j  Mr, Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 
VOL.  164. 

( Captain  Norton: 

6 7. 

138. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee had made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have leave to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Mr.  Joseph  Pease  reported  from  the  Com-  Development 

mittee  on Development  and  Road  Improvementand  I{oad 

3  1  2 







1th—8th  September.  	

1909. 


Improvement 
Funds 
[Money.] 

Funds  [Money]  a Resolution  ;  which  was  read, 
as followeth : 

That  for  the  purposes  of  any  Act  of  the 

present  Session to  promote  the  economic  deve­
lopment  of  the  United  Kingdom  and  the 
improvement  of  Roads  therein  it  is  expedient 
.to  authorise— 

(a)  the	  payment  to  the  Development  Fund 
for the purpose of advances  of  such moneys 
as  may  from  time  to  time  be  provided 
by  Parliament,  and  the  charge  on  the 
Consolidated  Fund  and  payment  into  the 
Development  Fund of  a sum of five hundred 
thousand  pounds  in  the  year  ending  the 
thirty-first day  of  March  nineteen  hundred 
and  eleven,  and 
in  each  of  the  next 
succeeding four years ;  and 

^b)  the charge  on  the  Consolidated  Fund  of 
the payment  of  interest  and  repayment  of 
the  principal  of  any  money  borrowed  under 
such  Act  to  an  amount  not  exceeding  two 
hundred  thousand  pounds  in  any  year, so 
far  as  the  Road  Improvement  Grant  is 
unable  to meet the same. 

The  said  Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time, was agreed  to. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Eevenue Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  reatt,  for  the 
Committee  on the  Customs and Inland  Revenue 
Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

Oaths Bill. 

The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to 
take into  further  consideration  the  Oaths  Bill, 
as amended  in the  Standing  Committee. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  now read the  third 
time :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the  third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

Adjournment.

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn.— 

{Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  twenty-two  minutes 
after Three  of  the  clock  on  Wednesday 

.  morning,  adjourned  till this day. 

S T A N D I NG  COMMITTEES. 
Distribution by Mr.  Speaker, pursuant  to  Stand­

ing  Order  iNo.  47,  of  Bills  committed  to  a 
Standing  Committee. 

Name  of  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee. 

Development and Road Improvement 


Funds  Bill.  


[ N o.  1 3 6 .] 

, 

Wednesday, 8th September  1909. 

The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour  

before Three  of  the  clock.  


P R A Y E R S. 

TH E  Aberdeen  Harbour  Order  Confirmation  Aberdeen 

Bill  was, according to  Order, read the third  Harbour 

.• 
, 
j 
time  and  passed. 

' 

® 

. 

' 

Order 
Confirmation 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to   B m 

the  Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented  a Bill  to  con-Clydebank 

firm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Private 
o ^ j. 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899,   confirmation 
relating  to  Clydebank  and  District  Water  :  Bill. 
And  the same  was  ordered  (under  Section  7 of 
the  Act)  to  be  taken  into  consideration  upon 
Friday  next. 

A  Public  Petition  was  presented,  and  read ;  Public 

and ordered  to lie  upon the Table. 

' 

1 

Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Report. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,   by  His  Education 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Regulations  for (3cotland-) 
the Preliminary  Education,  Training,  and  Cer­
tification  of  Teachers  for  various  grades  of 
Schools,  1909. 

Copy  of  Minute of  the  Committee  of  Council  Education  

on  Education  in  Scotland,  dated  8th  September  (Scotland.)  

1909,;amending  the  Schedule  to  the  Minute  of  

30th  January  1905,  providing  for  the  esta­
blishment  of  Committees  for  the  Training  of  

Teachcrs. 


Ordered, That  the'said  Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell presented, by His  Majesty's  Com-  Irish Land 
mand,—Copy  of  Return  of  Proceedings  of  the  Commission 
Irish  Land  Commission  under  the  Land  Law ^ roce  
Acts,'  the  Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts,  1883-91, 
and the  Land  Purchase  Acts,  during  the  month 
of  March  1909. 

in 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey presented,  by  His  Trade Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copies of  Diplomatic and 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4338 
and 4339. 

8° 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Customs. 

Command,—Copy  of  Fifty-third  Report  of  the 
Commissioners  of  Customs,  for  the  year  ended 
31st  March  1909. 

Mr.  Hobhouse also  presented, pursuant  to  the old Age 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of Pensions 
Treasury  Minute,  dated  31st  August  1909, 
adding  to  Schedule  B  of  the  Exchequer  and 
Audit  Departments  Act,  1866, the  Appropria­
tion Accounts  of  the Grants  for the  payment  of 
Old  Age  Pensions. 

Ordered, That the  said  Papers do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Burns  presented,—Return  to  an  Order,  Unemployed 
dated  the 26th  day  of  July  last,  for  a  Return  Workmen  Act, 
relative  to  the  Unemployed  Workmen  Act, 
1905.; 

N o - 2 7 6 ­

Ordered,  T h at  the  said  Return   do lie  upon  the  


Table  ;  and   be  printed.  


No. 133.]  9  E D W.   V I I.  3rd—6th September.  427 

•Colonial 
.Reports 
< Annual.) 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Colonial  Report  No.  610 
(Malta,  Report  for  1908-9). 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

words  "  of  Inland  Revenue."  —  (Mr.  Austen 
Chamberlain.) 

Question  proposed,  That those  words  be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Table. 

Ordered, That  there  be  laid before this  House 
•Government 
Departments  a Return  setting  forth  the  name, age, length  of 
<Ireland.) 
service,  and  official  position  of  all  salaried 
Officials in the various Government  Departments 
of  Ireland  who  have  been  appointed  (a)  by 
nomination  without  examination,  (b)  by  nomi­
nation  with  limited  competition,  (c)  by  nomina­
tion  with  qualifying  examination,  since  the 
12th  day  of  July  1906 
(in  continuation  of 
Parliamentary  Paper,  No. 8 of  Session  1907).— 
(Mr.  Jeremiah  Mac Veaffhi) 

Places of 
Worship 
n  a n ­
(
ment) (No. 2) 
Bill. 

Mr.  Solicitor  General,  supported  by  Mr. 
Runciman  and  Mr.  Herbert  Lewis,  presented  a 
  s?"  Bill  to  authorise  the  enfranchisement:  of  the 
sites  of  Places  of  Worship  held  under  lease : 
Bill  326.  And  the  same was ordered  to  be  read a second 

time upon  Monday  next;  and to be  printed. 

Finance  Bill. 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved  itself 

into  a Committee  on the Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  32 (Distribution  of  payments  on 

account of  licence  duties in certain  cases). 

Amendment proposed,  in  p. 22,1.  15, to  leave 
out  from  the word  "  bound "  to  the  word  "  to," 
in 1.17.—(Mr.  Staveley-Hill.) 

Question  proposed,  That;  the  words  proposed 
to  be left out, to  the  second  word  "  or,"  in p.  22, 
1. 16,  stand  part  of  the  Clause:—Amendment, 
by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  22,  1, 16, 
indirect."—(Mr. 

to  leave  out  the  words  " or 
Balfour.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:— 

to  be 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 22,1.  17, 
after the word  " kind,"  to  insert  the  words "  to 
rent  his  licensed  premises  at  other  than  an 
ordinary  rent or."—(Mr  .Younger.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be there 

inserted:—Amendment,  by  leave  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in  p. 22,  1. 17, 
to  leave out  the  words "  intoxicating  liquor,''  in 
order  to insert  the word  "  goods."—(Mr.  Austen 
Chamberlain.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:— 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in p.  22,1.  18, 
after  the word  "  liquor,"  to  insert the  Words "  at 
other  than  ordinary  market  prices." —  (Mr. 
Younger.) 

Questioii  proposed,  That  those  words  be there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  22,1.  19, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  recover  as a debt  due 
from,"  in  order  to  insert  the  words  "  deduct 
•from any rent, interest  upon  mortgage,  payment 
for goods  supplied, or other  payment  due  to."— 
(Mr.  Barnard.) 

Question proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :— 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Amendments made. 
Another  Amendment proposed, in p. 22,  1. 22, 
after the word  "  Commissioners,"  to  insert' the 

V O L.  164. 

5 

" 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment proposed,  in p. 22,1.  22, 
at the end, to  add  the  words  "  but  in any  action 
for  the recovery  of such part of  any  sum paid as 
licence  duty  it may  be pleaded  that  the  amount 
claimed  is  not  proportionate  to  the  benefit 
obtained by  the defendant, from  the. licence, and 
the  court  shall  give  judgment  for  such  sum 
only  as  shall  appear  to  the  court  to be  propor­
tionate  to  the benefit obtained  by  the  defendant 
from the  licence."—(Mr.  Gibbs.) 

Question,  That  those  words  be  there  added, 

put, and  negatived. 

Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  33  (Reduction  of  monopoly  value 

payments). 

Amendment  proposed, in p. 22,1.25,  after the 
word  "paid,"  to  insert  the  words  " or  of  any 
other  expenditure  or  any  loss  incurred  by  the 
applicant."—(Mr.  Salter.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
T  11 rs f 

th  (Sir  Alexander Acland- ^ 

G  Yeas* 
' 

1 
(Viscount  Valentia : 
Tellers  for the J Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Captain  Norton: 

8 9 ' 

^ 

f 
j 

j 

,  An  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in  p. 22,1.  32, 
to leave  out the  words  "  in  such manner  as they 
think just."—(Mr.  Salter.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  "  in  such 

manner as "  stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for thej Mr; Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for  thefMr.  Salter, 

, 
'  182 
/ 
' 
T  95 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Samuel  Roberts :  J 

Other  Amendments  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 22,  1. 38> 

to  leave out subsection  (2).—(Mr.  Peel.) 

Question  proposed,  That  subsection  (2)  stand 

part of  the  Clause  : 

Thursday, 9th  September 1909  : 

Question  put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for thefMr.  Joseph Pease,  , 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton  : 

Tellers for thefMr.  Peel, 

Noes, 

I Mr.Walter  Guinness: 

J  __ 
' 
J 
\  
j 

5 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as amended, 

stand  part of  the Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thefMr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noe3. 

(Captain  Norton: 

"t 
J  V 
1 
(Lord  Edmund  Talbot:  J 

Tellers for  the I Viscount  Valentia, 

To  report Progress, and ask leave to  sit again. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means reported,  That 
the Committee  had  made  Progress  in the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have leave to sit again. 

3  I  3 

­
— m 

1900.  [No. 137. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself into  the said  Committee, 

Adjournment,

Resolved, That  this  House do  now  adjourn.— 

(Mr. Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  ten  minutes  before 
One  of  the  clock  on  Thursday  morning, 
adjourned till  this  day. 

to  1894,  and  appropriated  in  whole  or  in  par 
for  the benefit of  that county  borough, or of  any 
part  thereof, together  with  the  Reports  on those 
Endowments  of the  Commissioners, for  inquiring 
concerning  Charities, 1818 to 1837 ;  (2) a  Digest 
showing  whether  any,  and,  if  any,  what  such 
Endowments  are  recorded  in  the books  of  the 
Charity  Commissioners  in  the  county  borough; 
and  (3)  an  Index,  alphabetically  arranged,  of 
names  and  places  mentioned  in  the  Reports.-— 
(Mr.  Soares.) 

,

[No.  137.] 

Thursday, 9th September  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before  Three  of the  clock. 

P E A Y Z B S. 

Irvine Harbour ri^ HE  Lord  Advocate  presented  a  Bill  to 
Order 
Jj_  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the 
Confirmation   p r i v a t  e  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act, 
1899, relating  to  Irvine  Harbour:  And  the same 
was ordered  (under  Section  7 of  the  Act)  to  be 
taken into Consideration  u p on  Monday  next. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 
Beport. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie upon  the  Table. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His 
Epizootic
^ m e n t a  l  Majesty's  Command,-Copy  of  Beport  of  the 
  departmental   C o m m l t t e  e  appointed  by  the 
Committee.)

Board  of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  to  inquire 
into  Epizootic  Abortion.  Appendix  to  Part  I. 
Epizootic  Abortion  in  Cattle. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Africa

(No. 4,1909.)


Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey  presented, by  His 
  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Despatch  from 
His  Majesty's  Agent  and  Consul  General  at 
Zanzibar,  furnishing  a  Report  on  the  Admin­
istration, Finance, and  General  Condition  of  the 
Zanzibar  Protectorate, 

Trade Beports

(Annual
Series.)

  Copies, of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, 
Annual  Series,  Nos.  4340   to  4344  and  4348. 

' 

Explosions
Lancashire.)

Ordered, That  the said  Papers  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Maj<*ty's  Command,-Copy  of  Report  to  the 
Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department 
on  the  circumstances  attending  an  Explosion 
which  occurred  in  the  corning  house  of  the 
Gunpowder  Factory  at  Blackbeck,  Lancashire, 
on the  15th July  1909. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
Superannua­
tion  Act, 1887. directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Treasury  Minute,  dated  4th  September  1909, 
ranting  a  retired  allowance  to  Mr.  Joseph 
ames  Bartlett,  Town  Postman,  Leeds,  Post 
Office, under  Section  2  of  the  Superannuation 
Act,  1887. 

f

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Inquiry into
Charities

Borough of

Plymouth.)


Ordered,  That  there be laid  before this  House 
a  Return  comprising  (1)  the  Reports  made  to 
fbe  Charity  Commissioners  in  the  result  of 
an  Inquiry  held  in  the  County  Borough  of 
Plymouth 
into  Endowments  subject  to  the 
provisions  of  the  Charitable  Trusts  Acts,  1853 

The  House, according to Order, resolved  itself Finance  BilL 

into  a Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No. 34 (Duty  on  statements of  receipts 

from intoxicating  liquor  supplied  in  a  club). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  23,  1. 8, to  leave 
out from the  word  "  allow "  to  the  word  "  and," 
in 1.11, in order to insert the words "  particulars 
of  all  intoxicating  liquors  in  and  brought  into 
the club,  as follows,  viz. :— 

(a)  The	  stocks  of  all  intoxicating  liquors in 

the club  on  the  first  day of  January  of  the  

preceding year,  in the form of  ordinary stock  t • 

sheets  specifying  the  separate  articles and 

the quantities,  and in  the  case of  spirits  the  

strengths ; 


(b)  All  the  deliveries	   of  intoxicating  liquors  

to  such  club  during  the calendar year, with 

the  like  details,  and  the  prices  actually  

charged  or paid for the  items;  


(c)  The  stocks  on the first day  of  January  of  

the current year, with  the  like  details."  


—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "  A  state 
ment  of  the "  stand  part  of  the  Clause : — 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  23,  1.8, 
to  leave  out  the words  "  receipts from," in  order 
to  insert  the  words  "  purchases  during  the 
preceding  calendar  year  of."—(Mr.  Chancellor 
of  the  Exchequer.) 

Question,  That  the  words  "receipts  from" 

stand part  of  the  Clause, put, and  negatived. 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed to the proposed  Amend­
ment, after the word  "  purchases,"  to  insert the 
word  "  delivered."—(Colonel  Hall  Walker.) 

Question proposed, That the word "  delivered  " 
be there  inserted  in  the  proposed  Amendment: 
—-Amendment  to  the  proposed  Amendment, by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Proposed  words there inserted. 

Another  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 23,1.  9, 
after the  word  "  club,"  to  insert  the words "  or 
to members  thereof."—(Mr. Rawlinson.) 

Question  proposed,  That those  words  be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Other  Amendments made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 23,1.  12, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "three,"  in  order  to 
insert  the  word  "six."—(Mr,  Chancellor of the 
Exchequer.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  " t h r e e" 

stand part of  the  Clause  ;—Debate  arising  ; 

Mr.  Herbert  Samuel  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
.137.]  y EDW.  VII. 

Question put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O. Closnre 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question  he now put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thefMr. Joseph Pease, 
\Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

162, 

Tellers  for  th 
Noes 
?

Alexander  Acland­

."••> 

i 
[Viscount  Valentia : 

>  105. 
J

Question,  That  the  word  "  three "  stand  part 

of the  Clause, put accordingly,  and  negatived. 

Question  put, That  the  word  "  six "  be  there 

inserted. 

the  said  sum  is  not  paid  it  may  be  levied  by 
distress  in  the  same way  as  unpaid  duty  under 
subsection  four of  this  section ;  and credit  shall 
be given  to the  club for  any  sum  so  paid  to  or 
retained by the  Commissioners  in respect  of  any 
duty  that  may thereafter  appear to  be  payable 
by  the  club  in  respect  of  the  calendar  year  in 
which the  said sum  was  so  paid or  retained."— 
(Mr. Goulding.) 

Question  put,  That the  words  proposed  to  be 
left  out, to  the  word  " receipts," in  1. 10,  stand 
part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the) Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
\ Captain Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the I Mr.  Charles Duncan, 

Noes, 

1 Mr.  Tyson  Wilson : 

\ 187. 
j 
] 
J 

42. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the fMr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 


Tellers for the I Mr.  Salter,  


Noes, 

I Mr.  Goulding : 

1161. 

}  77. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 23,1.  14, 
insert  the  word 

after  the  word  "  club,'  to 
"  wilfully."—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Other Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 24,1.  12, 
to  leave  out  from the  word  "  club "  to  the end 
of  subsection  (6).—(Mr.  Scott  Dickson.) 

Question  proposed,  That the word  "  wilfully  " 
leave, 
inserted: — Amendment,  by 

be  there 
withdrawn. 

Other Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 23,  1. 29, 
after  the  word  "  distress,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  on  any goods  being  the  property  of  the  club 
found."—(Mr.  Salter.) 

Question,  That  those  words  be there  inserted, 

put, and  negatived. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 23,  1. 29, 
after  the  word  "  distress,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  after  proceedings  taken  before  a  court  of 
summary jurisdiction."—(Mr.  Joyhson-Hicks.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for theJ  Mr.  Goulding, 
IMr.  Lane-Fox: 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the)  Mr  Joseph Pease, 
I Captain  Norton : 

Noes, 

1  65. 
/
}  151. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 24, Is. 5 

and  6, to leave  out  the  words  "  sale  of  intoxi­
cating  liquor  without  a  licence,"  in  order  to 
insert the words  "  supply  or  sale of  intoxicating 
liquor  on  the  premises  of  an unregistered  club 
within  the meaning  of section  twenty-six  of  the 
Licensing  Act,  1902."—(Mr.  Salter.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :— 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  24,1.  7, 
to  leave  out  subsection  (6),  in  order  to  insert 
the words— 

" ( 6  )  In  the  case  of  any  registered  club  con­
templating  its  voluntary  discontinuance  as  a 
registered  club  during  any  calendar  year  the 
secretary  of the club  shall,  before the sendiug of 
any notice  to  the  members of  the  club of  any 
meeting  to  be held  for  considering  the  question 
of  the  discontinuance  of  the club  as a registered 
club, give  notice  to  the  Commissioners  of  the 
intention  to  consider  the  question  of  discon­
tinuance, and of  the  date  or  dates  fixed for its 
consideration  and  determination,  and  shall,  at 
the  time  of  giving  such notice  to  the  Commis­
sioners,  pay to  them  a  sum  bearing  the  same 
proportion  to  the  duty  paid  by  the  club 
in 
respect  of  the  preceding  year  as  the  period 
between  the  first  day of January  and  the  date 
of the  determination  of  the  question  of  discon­
tinuance bears to a whole calendar  year;  and if 

VOL.  164. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:— 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed to. 

Clause  No.  35 amended,  and agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  36  (Penalties).  

Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 24,  1. 33,  at  the  

end, to insert  the  words  "  in  the case of  spirits, 
and one hundred  pounds  in the case  of  beer, and 
in  any  other  case  fifty  pounds."—(Mr. Samuel 
Roberts.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words be  there 

inserted :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in  p.  25,  1.  5, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  pounds "  to the 
end of  subsection  (3).—-(Mr.  Samuel Roberts.) 

Question  put, That  the  words proposed  to  be 
left  out, to  the  word "  duty,"  in  1. 6, stand  part 
of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for thef  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

| Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the f Mr. Samuel Roberts, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  George  Faber : 

\

158. 
| 
\  80. 
J 

Amendments  made. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  37  (Relation  of  licences  granted 

under Act  to licences  abolished). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  25,  1.  22, at  the 

end, to insert the  words— 

"  (2)  Any  licence  which  is  expressed  in  the 
First  Schedule  of  this Act  to  correspond  to any 
existing  licence  shall, if applied  for,  be granted 
in  substitution  for  such  existing  licence,  and 
shall  be  a  renewal  of  the  licence,  and  in  the 
case  of  any existing  excise  licence  which  may 
be  granted  without  a  justices'  licence  being 
required  no  justices'  licence  shall  be  required 
for the  issue of  the  corresponding  excise  licence 
under  this  Act."—(Mr.  Stdveley-HUl.) 

Question  proposed, That those  words  be  there 

inserted :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 25,1.  23, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  or  liqueurs." —  (Mr. 
Gretton.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:  — 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause  agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  38  (Definitions).  


3  I  4  


 
9th—10th  September. 

1909, 

[No. 187. 

Amendment proposed, in p. 25,1. 37, after the 
second  word  "  wine,"  to  insert  the words  "  but 
hot  wine grown  and  made in  British  Colonies." 
—(Mr.  Gretton.) 

Question proposed,  That  those words  be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave, Withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  proposed, in p.  26,  I.  10, 
to  leave  out  from  the  beginning  to  the  end  of 
1. 15,—(Mr. Mitchell-Thomson.) 

Question  proposed, That  the words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:  — 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

An  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 26,1.  25, 
after  the  word  " courts,"  to  insert  the  word 
"  and."—(Earl  Winterton.) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Summary-
Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction  J""^'0^®11 
(Scotland)  Act,  1908, Amendment Bill  [Lords]  ; Act° 1908, 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a second  time  Amendment 
Bill  [Lords.] 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order   o f  the  day  being  read,  for  the  child Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial)  (Trial)  Bill 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort- 9,on°ciIs 
crafTOQ  Hill  • 
, 
gages  13111, 

Mortgages 
Bill. 

. 

. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  and "  be 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

there  inserted: 

this day. 

Friday,  10th September  1909 

Question  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/ Earl  Winterton, 
1 Captain  Faber: 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the / Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

l Captain  Norton : 

/  76. 
133. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  39  (Temporary  provision  as  to 

expiration  of  licences). 

Amendment  proposed,  in p. 26,1.  32, to  leave 
out  the  words "  thirtieth  day  of  September,"  in 
order  to insert the words " first day of  January." 
—(Mt.  Gretton.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the words "  thirtieth 
day o f" stand part of  the  Clause  :—Amendment, 
by  leave, Withdrawn. 

Amendments  made. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
To  report  Progress, and ask leave to sit  again. 

Mr. Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the 
Bill;  and that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That 
the  Committee  may  have leave  to  sit  again. 

Resolved, That this  House  will,  upon  Monday 
next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking  Irish  Land 

into  consideration  the  Irish  Land  Bill,  asBil1­
amended  in the  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking London 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill  Elections  Bill, 
(not "amended  in the/Standing  Committee); 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

T he  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Police Bill. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Police  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be reiad  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  union Officer* 
Second  Reading  of  the  Union  Officers (Ireland) (Ireland)  B l u-
Bill; 

•:  ; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trustees' 
Third  Reading  of  the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill;   Accounts  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read the third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Parliamentary 
Second  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Sea t s Seats (Peers of 
( Peers of  Scotland)  Bill; 
Scotland)  Bm, 

' 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into consideration  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, 
&c.  Bill,  as amended in the  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Coal Mines 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation  Regulation 
Bill; 

BlU' 

_  

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Resolved,  That  the  Contract  recently  made Ardrossan  and 

Customs and 
Inland 
Bevenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on the Customs  and Inland  Revenue 
Bill; 

_ 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

between the  Postmaster  General  and  Messieurs 
G.  and J,  Burns, Limited, for  the conveyance  of  

Mails between  Glasgow,  Ardrossan, and  Belfast  

(printed  in  Parliamentary  Paper,  No;  39  of  

1909), be  approved.—(Mr .Hobhouse.) 


Ways and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of Ways  and  Means; 

Resolved, That this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Finance 
[Consolidated 
Fund.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  Finance  [Consolidated  Fund]; 

Resplvedi  That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself  into  the said  Committee. 

Prisons 
(Scotland) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Prisons  (Scotland)  Bill 
[Lords]  ; 

v. 

- 

Resolved, That  the  Contract,  dated  the  27th  Scilly Islands 
day  of  February  1909, between  the  Postmaster  Mal1  Serv!Ce* 
General  and  the  West  Cornwall  Steamship 
Company,  Limited, for  the conveyance  of  Mails 
between Penzance and the Scilly Islands (printed 
in  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  136  of  1909), he 
approved.—(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

Whereupon  Mr. Deputy  Speaker  adjourned  

the House without Question put, pursuant 

to the Order of the House  of the 20th day 

of  August  last, it  being  then four minutes 

after One of the  clock  on Friday morning, 

till this day. 


No  m ] 

9  E D W.   Y I I. 

10 th  September. 

433 

Clydebank 
and  District 
Water  Order 
Confirmation 
BiU. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Report. 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Irish  Land 
Commission 
(Proceedings.) 

Local 
Taxation 
(Scotland) 
Account. 

Ordnance 
Survey. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  C. 
Development 
and  Road 
Improvement 
Funds  Bill. 

Standing 
Committee  C. 

Development 
and  Road 
Improvement 
Funds  Bill. 

[No. 138.] 
Friday,10th  September  1909. 
The  House  met  at  Twelve of the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

THE  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded 

to  take  into  consideration  the  Clydebank 

and District  Water  Order  Confirmation  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  the  third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Secretary Sir Edward  Grey  presented, by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic  and 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4345 
to  4347. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Return  of  Proceedings  of 
the  Irish  Land  Commission  under  the  Land 
Law  Acts,  the  Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts,  1883­
91,  and  the  Land  Purchase  Acts,  during  the 
month of  April  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Return  showing 
(1)  the  principal  statutory  provisions  affecting 
payments  into  and  out  of  the  Local  Taxation 
(Scotland)  Account,  and  (2)  the  amount  of 
such  payments for  the financial year  1908-9. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That there  be laid  before this  House 
a Return  bringing up to date, under the  heading 
"  Pay and Promotion,"  the information  contained 
in  the  Report  of  the  Departmental  Committee 
appointed  in  1891 to inquire  into  the position  of 
the  Civil  Assistants  employed  in the  Ordnance 
Survey  [Cd.  6692].—(Mr.  Dudley  Ward.) 

Sir  Herbert  Roberts  reported  from  the  Com­
mittee  of  Selection;  That they  had discharged 
the  following  Members  from  Standing  Com­
mittee  C  (in  respect  of  the  Development  and 
Road  Improvement  Funds  Bill):-—Mr.  Burns,
Mr.  Smeaton,  Mr.  Robert  Harcourt,  Sir William 
Collins, Mr.  Ivor  Guest,  Mr.  William  Pearce, 
Earl  Percy,  Sir  Frederick  Dixon-Hartland,  Mr. 
Thornton,  Mr.  William  Nicholson,  Mr.  Young,
Colonel  Hall  Walker,  Sir  Joseph  Compton-
Richett,  and  Mr.  Carlile;  and  had  appointed 
in  substitution  (in  respect  of  the  said  Bill)  : 
Mr.  Solicitor  General, Mr. Lamont, Mr.  William 
Jones,  Mr.  Leif  Jones,  Mr.  Dundas  White,  Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer,  Mr.  Chaplin,
Mr.  Scott  Dickson,  Mr.  Peel,  Captain  Craig,
Mr.  Clancy,  Mr.  Carr-Gomm,  Sir  Francis 
Channing,  and  Mr.  Fell. 

Sir  Herbert  Roberts further  reported  from the 
Committee;  That  they  had  added  to  Standing 
Committee  C  the  following  Fifteen  Members 
(in  respect  of  the  Development  ,and  Road 
Improvement  Funds  Bill):—Mr.  Munro  Fer­
guson,  Sir  Charles  Rose,  Sir  Henry  Norman, 
Mr.  Berridge, Mr.Isaacs,  Mr.  Ellis  Davies, Mr. 
Falconer,  Lord  Robert  Cecil,  Sir  Frederick 
Banbury, Mr.Bowles,  Mr.  Du  Cros, Mr. Mooney,
Mr.  Ilazleton,  Mr.  Keir  Hardie,  and  Mr. 
Maddison. 

VOL.164. 

Ordered,  That  the  Reports  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Housing, 
into  consideration  the  Housing,  Town  Town 

take 
Planning,  &c.  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Com- B a r " 2 ' 
mittee. 

A  Clause  was  offered  to  be  added  to  the 
Bill  (Dispensing  with  statutory  obligations  in 
connection  with  works  under  Part  III.  of  the 
principal Act).—(Mr.  Walter  Guinness.) 

And  the  said  Clause  was brought up, and read 

the first time. 

And  a  Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being put,  That  the  said  Clause  be  now read a 
second  time :—It  passed  in  the  Negative. 

Another  Clause  was  offered  to  be  added  to 
the  Bill  (Saving  of  existing  rights).—  Mr. 
Harmood- Banner.) 

And  the said  Clause  was brought  up, and read 

the first time. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  said  Clause  be  now 
read  a  second  time:—The  said  Motion  and 
Clause were  severally,  with  leave  of  the  House, 
withdrawn. 

Another  Clause  was  offered  to  be  added  to 
the Bill (Abatement  of  rate payable by occupiers 
of  land  used  for  public  purposes,  or  of  land 
covered  with water).—(Sir  Frederick Banbury.) 
And  the said  Clause was brought up, and read 

the first time. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being put, That  the  said  Clause  be  now. read  a 
second time  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the j Sir  Frederick  Banbury,  "1 

Yeas, 

1 Mr.  Walter  Guinness  :  J  


27. 

Tellers  for  the) Mr. Joseph Pease, 

\ 
(Sir  Edward Strachey:  / 

Noes, 

95. 

So it passed in the  Negative. 

, Another  Clause  was  offered  to  be  added  to 
the  Bill  (Power  to  Local  Government  Board  to 
revoke  unreasonable  byelaws). —  (Lord  Robert 
Cecil.) 

And  the  said  Clause  was  brought  up,  and 

read  the first time. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  said  Clause  be  now 
read  a  second  time : — The  said  Motion  and 
Clause  were  severally,,with  leave  of  the  House, 
withdrawn. 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to-
the  Bill,  in p.  1,1. 9,  by  leaving  out  Clause  1.— 
(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 

proposed to  be left  out stand part of  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the (Sir  Edward  Strachey, 

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Gulland : 


Tellers for  the/ Sir  Frederick Banbury, 


Noes, 

IMr.  M'Arthur  : 

J  120. 

}  27. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,-1.  16,  by  leaving  out  from 
the word  "  A c t  "  to the end  of  subsection  (1)  of 
Clause  1.—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  words 

proposed  to be  left  out stand part of the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 

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1909. 

[No. 138 

The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

"]
I Sir  Edward Strachey :  J 

The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the  third  time 

and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

133. 

the  Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

.  Tellers for  the i Sir  Frederick  Banbury,  ^  ^ 
(Captain  Craig : 

Noes, 

J 

So it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1. 18,  by  inserting  at  the 
end  thereof  the  words  "  Provided  that  where 
the capital  value of  land  shall  have  been  ascer­
tained for the purpose  of  taxation the  same shall 
be  taken  to  be its  value  when purchased  by  any 
local  authority  under  this  Act,  subject  to  the 
allowance  for  buildings  and  agreed  damages  as 
the  arbitrator  shall decide."—(Mr.  Hart-Davies.) 
And  the  Question  being put, That those words 
be  there  inserted  in  the  Bill:—It  passed  in  the 
Negative. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to the  Bill, in p.  1,1.  18, by  inserting  at the end 
thereof  the  words "  but  this provision  shall  not 
apply  to  any  land  which,  at  the  date  of  the 
Order, has been  acquired  by  the  owners  thereof 
under  any  local  or  special  Act,  Provisional 
Order,  or  Order  having  the  force of  an Aot  of 
Parliament, for  the purposes  of  a railway,  dock, 
canal,  water,  or  other  public  undertaking."— 
(Mr.  M'Arthur.) 

And  the  Question  being proposed,  That  those 

words be there inserted  in the  Bill; 

Mr.  Speaker 
puts Question 
forthwith 
(pursuant  to 
Order  of  the 
House.) 

And  it being  Five  of  the  clock,  Mr.  Speaker 
proceeded,  pursuant  to the  Order  of  the  House 
of  the  15th  day  of  June  last,  to  put  forth­
with  the  Question  on  the  Amendment  already 
proposed  from the  Chair. 

And  the Question  being  put, That  those words 

be there inserted  in the  Bill: 

Mr. Speaker 
puts Questions 
forthwith 
ftrarsuant to 
Order of  the 
House.) 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the/Mr.  M'Arthur, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Walter Guinness : 


Tellers for  the/ Mr. Herbert  Lewis,  


|  35. 

}l27. 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Gulland: 
So  it passed in the  Negative. 
Mr.  Speaker  then  proceeded  successively  to 
put forthwith the Questious  on  any Amendments 
to the Bill  moved by  the  Government  of  which 
notice had been given, and the  Question  for  the 
Third  Reading  of  the  Bill. 

Then  an Amendment  was made  to the  Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to the Bill, in p. 6,1. 2, by leaving  out the words 
"  the  Housing  of  the  Working  Classes  Act, 
1900, and."—(Mr.  Burns.) 

And  the Question being put,  That the  Amend­

ment be  made; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the/  Mr.  Herbert  Lewis, 

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Gulland : 

Tellers for  the (Sir  Frederick  Banbury, 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Mawlinson  : 

124. 

28. 

So it was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Customs and 
Committee  on  the  Customs  and Inland  Revenue  J1nland  _.,, 
Revenue  Bill. 
j g . jj  _ 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort- S?n°cils 
_ 
gages  Bill; 
<  Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
upon  Monday  next. 

-

^[ t g a g eS 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put, pursuant to 

the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th  day  

of  August last, it being  then  twenty-two  

minutes  after  Five  of  the  clock,  till 
Monday  next.  


[No.  139.]  

Monday,  13th September  1909.  


The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 

before  Three  of  the  clock.  


TH  E  House  being  met,  the  Clerk  at  the  Mr.  Speaker's 

Table informed the House of the unavoidable  Absence. 

absence of Mr. Speaker from this day's Sitting :— 
Whereupon Mr.  Emmott, the Chairman  of Ways 
and  Means, proceeded  to  the  Table,  and, after 
Prayers,  took  the  Chair  as  Deputy  Speaker,  Prayers, 
pursuant  to the  Standing  Order. 

The  Clydebank  and  District  Water  Order  Clydebank 
Confirmation  Bill  was, according  to  Order, read  and  District 
S m a U on 
the third  time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to Bi11­

the Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Irvine 
take  into  consideration  the  Irvine  Harbour  Harbour 
Order  Confirmation  Bill. 

Confirmation 

Ordered, That the Bill be  read  the  third time  Bm­

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon  the Table. 

1 

Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 
Beport. 

Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's imports  and 

Command,—Copy  of  Tables  showing  for each of  Exports at 
the  years  1900-8  the  estimated  value of Imports  P r i c e s of  190°­
and  Exports  of  the  United  Kingdom  at  the 
Prices  prevailing  in  1900, with  an  introductory 
Memorandum. 

Mr.  Churchill also presented,  pursuant  to  the  Companies 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  (Winding-up.) 
Eighteenth  General  Annual  Report  by  the 
Board  of  Trade  under  Section  47  of  the  Com­
panies  Act,  1907. 

277. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Papers  do lie  upon the 

Table;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  Com­
panies  (Winding-up)  be printed. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's inland 
Command,—Copy  of Fifty-second  Report  of the Bevenue. 
Commissioners of  His Majesty's Inland Revenue, 
for the year  ended 31st  March  1909. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  Bill   be 
now  read  the  third  time:—-It  was  resolved  in 
the  Affirmative. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  also  presented,—Return  to  an Irish  Land 

Order, dated the  6th day of  this instant  Septem-stock­
her, for a Return  relative to  Irish  Land  Stock. 





No. 133.]  9  E D W.   V I I. 
Telegraph and  Mr.  Hobhouse  also presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Accoonts? 
Treasury  Minute,  dated  7th  September  1909, 
directing  that  the  Telegraph  and  Telephone 
Accounts  be  examined  and  audited  by  the 
Comptroller  and  Auditor  General. 

3rd—6th September. 14 

Question  put,  That  the  word  " a n d  "  stand 

part of the  Clause.  


The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 


155. 

Tellers for the f Mr.  Samuel Roberts, 

\  gg  


Ordered, That  the said  Papers  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Trade Beports 
Series.) 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic 
and  Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4349 
and 4350. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

ictPlfo418 

' 

' 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to 
the  directions of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Order  made  by  the  Secretary  for  Scotland 
under  the  Shop  Hours  Act,  1904,  dated  6th 
September  1909, providing  for  the  early  closing 
of  certain  Shops  in the  Burgh  of  Wishaw. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Department  of  Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
m^Teohnicai  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Department 
of  Agriculture  and  Technical  Instruction  for 
Instruction 
Ireland  on  the  Trade  in  Imports  and  Exports 
for Ireland. 
at  Irish  Ports  during  the  year  ended  31st 
December  1908. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Message from  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  acquainted  the  House 
the  Lords. 
that  a  Message  had  been  brought  from  the 
Lords  by  one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

Glasgow 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
Corporation  made  by this House  to  the  Glasgow  Corporation 
Bill  [Lords.] 
Bill  [Lords], without  any  Amendment. 

Finance  Bill. 

The  House,  according  to Order, resolved  itself 

into a Committee  on the Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Watson Rutherford'.} 

' 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 27,1.  9, 
after  the  word  "  and,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  where  the  principal  value  of  the  settled 
property  exceeds ten  thousand pounds  and  does 
not  exceed  twenty-five  thousand  pounds,  one 
and  a  half  per  cent., and  where  the  principal 
value  of  the  settled  property  exceeds  twenty-
five thousand  pounds."—(Mr.  Samuel Roberts.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the (Mr.  S'tmuel Roberts, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Courthope: 

Tellers  for thef Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

\ Captain  Norton: 

\ 68. 
) 
) 
169. 
J 

An  Amendment  made.  

Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause,  as 
amended,  stand  part  of  the  Bill:  —  Debate 
arising; 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to move,  That  the  Question be now put. 

Question  put, That  the  Question be  now put.  Question put 
(pursuant to 
Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
I  1 Q„  s.O. Closure 
of  Debate.) 
/ 

, 

-

\ Captain  Norton  


Yeas, 

Tellers for  the/ Viscount  Valentia, 
IMr.  Henry  Forster: 

Noes, 

\ 
j 

92. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause,  


as amended, stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 
I Captain  Norton : 


Yeas, 

Tellers for  the/ Viscount  Valentia,  

(Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Noes, 

192. 

95. 

Clause  No. 41  (Limitation  of relief from estate 

duty  in respect  of  settled  property). 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure  

of  Debate.) 

Clause  No. 40  (Amended  rates  of  estate duty 
and  settlement  estate duty,  7  Edw.  7, c.  13, and 
57  & 58  Vict. c.  30). 

Amendment  proposed,  in p. 27,  1. 24, to  leave 
out  the  words  "  or  subsection  one  of  section 
twenty-one."—(Mr.  Hills.) 

Amendment  proposed,  in p. 27,1.  5,  to  leave 
out  from  the  beginning  to  the word  "  two,"  in 
1. 9.—(Mr.  Evelyn  Cecil) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "  thirtieth,"  in  1. 6, 
stand part of the  Clause  :—Debate  arising; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
lace  and  claimed  to  move, That  the  Question 
e now  put. 

E

Question  put, That  the  Question be  now put. 
The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for  the/ Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


169. 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Sir Alexander Acland-

Tellers for thej  
1 
Noes 
I Viscount  Valentia  : 
' 

, 
' 

r r 

j

t
J 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words 
proposed  to be  left out, to the  word  "  thirtieth," 
in  1. 6, stand part of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thej Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Captain  Norton : 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Evelyn Cecil, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Leverton  Harris 

}  170. 

82. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 27,1.  9, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  duty "  to the  end 
of  1. 12—(Mr.  Samuel Roberts.) 

VOL.   164. 

Question proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to  be  left out stand part of  the  Clause: 

Tuesday, 14th  September  1909 : 

Question  put.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for thefMr. Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

1 Captain  Norton : 


Tellers for  the f Mr.  Hills, 

}  171­

I 
 89. 
J 

Noes, 

1 Mr. Hicks  Beach: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 27,  1. 27, 
to  leave  out  the  word  '•' whether,"  in  order 
to  insert  the  word  "  where."  —  (Mr.  Samuel 
Roberts.) 

81. 

Question put, That the word  "  whether "  stand 

part of  the Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the [ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
\Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Samuel Roberts, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Hills : 

' Lm 
Another Amendment  proposed,  in p. 27,1.  32, 
after  the  word  "  settlor,"  to  add  the  words 
"  Provided  that  any  property  which  shall  be­
come  chargeable  to  duty  under  this  section, and 
which but for  this  section  would  not  have  been 
so chargeable,  shall, if  liable  to  be  aggregated 
3  k  2 

1155 
j 
)
/ 

















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September.  	

i 

[No. 139. 

with  other property  under the principal  Act  and 
the Acts  amending  the same, instead  of being  so 
aggregated,  be treated  as  an estate by  itself."— 
(Mr.  Joynson- Hicks.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for* thej Mr.  Joynson-Flicks, 

Yeas, 

'[Mr.  Salter: 

Tellers for  thefMr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

\ Captain  Norton: 

1  60. 
/
\ 
J 

137. 

Another Amendment  proposed, in p. 27,  1. 32, 
after  the  word  "  settlor,"  to  add  the  words 
"  Provided  always  that  in  all  cases where, but 
for  this  proviso,  a  claim  to  duty  under  this 
section  would  arise  by  reason of  the  passing  of 
property  on  death  no  greater  amount  of  estate 
duty  shall  be chargeable  on such  death  than the 
estate  duty  chargeable  on  the  principal  value 
of  the  property  passing  on  such  death, less  a 
deduction  of  the amount of  the estate or  probate 
(as  the  case  may  be)  duty  which  has  already 
been  paid,  or  for  which  liability  has  already 
attached  in respect of  an  interest  in  expectancy 
in  such property  of  the  character  mentioned  in 
this section."—(Mr.  Cave.)

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

added. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thef Mr.  Cave, 

Yeas, 

LMr.Hicks  Beach: 
Tellers for the C Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

\ 133. 
{Captain  Norton : 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

Noes, 

1  56. 

stand part  of the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  thefMr.  Joseph Pease, 
\Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for t h e P ^ f " ^  '

A d a n d -

  1 

Noes, 

\ - H o e d >
]Viscount  Valentia: 

J 

Clause  No. 42 ( Amendment  of  rates of  legacy 
duty  and succession  duty,  55  Geo.  3, c.  184, and 
16 &  17  Vict,  c.  51). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  28,  1. 8, to  leave 
out  from the beginning  to  the  word  "  any,"  in 
1. 11.—(Mr.	  Gibbs.) 

Question  put,  That  the words proposed  to  be 
left out, to  the  word  "  five,"  in  1. 11, stand  part 
of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  thefMr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 


Tellers  for the f Mr.  Gibbs,  


Noes, 

(Earl  of  Ronaldshay  : 

1120. 

1-  52. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 28,  1.  11, 
to leave  out from the word  "  cent."  to  the  word 
"  on," in  1. 14.—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  put, That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left out stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the/ Mr.  Cave, 

118. 

48. 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Bridgeman : 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  28,1.  18, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  be "  to  the  word 
"  levied,"  in  1. 20.—(Mr.  George  Faber.) 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed the  Chair ;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported. 
That  the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the 
Bill j  and  that  he  was  directed  to  mo ve,  That 
the  Committee  may  have  leave to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again  resolve itself  into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways  and  


Committee  of  Ways  and  Means; 

Means. 

Resolved, That this  House  will, upon  Wednes­
day  next, resolve  itself  into the said  Committee.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Finance 

Committee  on  Finance  [Consolidated  Fund] ; 

^Consolidated 

Resolved, That  this House  will, upon  Wednes­
day  next, resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  W o r s h ip Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  (No.  2)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time BiU­

upon  Wednesday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Bishopric  of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield Sheffield Bill. 
Bill,  as amended  in the  Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon Wednesday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring  Laws 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con-  Continuance 
tinuance  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon Monday  next. 

. 

r 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  Dublin Police 

Second  Reading  of the  Dublin  Police  Bill;  

BiU-

Ordered, That the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

130. 

53. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Prisons 

Second  Reading  of  the  Prisons  (Scotland)  Bill  (Scotland)  

[Lords]; 

Bill  [ Z m * ,]  


* 

' 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time  


this  day.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Summary  

Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction  Jurisdiction  

(Scotland)  Act,  1908, Amendment  Bill {Lords~\ ^ ^ g^ 


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time  Amendment  

.B,!!  ! > , &] 


this day. 

: 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  f or  the  Child Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  ( T r i a l)   (Tnai)  Bill 
Bill  [Lords]  ;	 

' 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time  


this  day.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Irish  Land  


into  consideration  the  Irish  Land  Bill,  as un­
amended  in  the  Committee  ;  


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  Upon Wednesday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking London 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill  Elections  Bill, 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee); 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this day. 

Question  proposed, That  the  words  proposed 
to be left out, to  the  word  "  and,"  in  1. 20, stand 
part of the Clause : 

To  report  Progress,  and ask leave to  sit  again. 

T he  Order   o f  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Police Bill. 

Second  Reading  of  the Police  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 



NO, isa   L  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

13th—14ith  September. 

-Coal Mines 
Regulation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  bein^  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on the  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue 
Bill; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Union  Officers  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Ireland)  Bill.  s e c o n d  Reading  of the  Union  Officers  (Ireland) 

Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Thursday  next. 

Trustees' 
Accounts Bill.  Third  Reading  of  the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read the third  time 

upon Monday  next. 

Parliamentary 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Seats (Peers of Second  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Seats 
Scotland)  Bill.   ( p e e r8   o f  Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-
gages  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

Whereupon  Mr. Deputy  Speaker  adjourned 
the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant to  the  Order  of  the  House of  the 
20th  day  of  August  last,  it  being  then 
twenty  minutes  after  Two  of  the  clock 
on  Tuesday  morning,  till  this  day. 

j 

[No.  140,]; 

Tuesday, 14th September  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

Mr.  Speaker's 
Absence. 

Prayers. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Beport. 
Irish  Land 
Stock. 

No.  279. 

National 
Education 
(Ireland.) 

THE  House  being  met,  the  Clerk  at  the 

Table informed  the  House  of the  unavoid­

able  absence of  Mr.  Speaker :-—Whereupon  Mr. 
Emmott,  the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means, 
proceeded  to  the  Table,  and, after Prayers,  took 
the  Chair  as  Deputy  Speaker,  pursuant  to  the 
Standing  Order. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read ;  and ordered to lie  upon  the  Table. 

Ordered, That  the  Return  relative  to  Irish 
Land  Stock, which  was presented  upon  the  13th 
day of this instant  September, be  printed. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—  Copy  of  Seventy-fifth  Annual 
"Report of  the Commissioners of  National Educa­
tion in  Ireland,  being  for  the year  1908-9. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Colonial 
Import 
Duties, 1909. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command, —  Copy  of  Return  relating  to  the 
Rates  of  Import  Duties  levied  up6n  the  prin­
cipal  and  other  Articles 
into  the 
British  Colonies,  Possessions,  and  Protectorates. 

imported 

VOL.  164. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Board of 
Command,—Copy  of  Reports  from  Universities  Education, 
and  University  Colleges  in  Great  Britain  par­
ticipating  in  the  Parliamentary  Grant  in  the 
year  1907-8. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That  there be  laid  before  this  House  Development 

a  Copy  of  Memorandum  on  existing  powers  as

to  making  Grants  for  various  purposes.—(Mr,FuSSffiS?16'  

Chancellor of the Exchequer.) 
.  Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer  accordingly  

presented  the said  Paper.  


No.  278.  


Jtoad 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

Resolved, That  an  humble  Address  be  pre- Bast India 

06 

sented to His Majesty, that He  will be graciously 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid °
before this  House  a  Return  giving  the  names 
of  the  Officers  of  the  cavalry  and  infantry 
regiments  of  the  Indian  Army  who  have  been 
superseded; by  their  juniors  on  the  general  roll 
of  that Army  by  reason  of  the  operation  of  the 
rule  giving  .permanent  Army  rank  to  Officers 
obtaining  the  post  of  commandant  of  their 
regiment, or by  holding  certain  staff  administra­
tive  appointments.—(Sir  Seymour  Kiny.) 

Sir  Herbert  Roberts  reported  from  the  Com- Selection 
(Standing 
mittee of  Selection;  That  they  had  discharged 
Committees.) 
the  following  Members  from  Standing  Com- Standing 
mittee  C  (in  respect  of  the  Development  and Committee  C. 
Development 
Road  Improvement  Funds  Bill):—Mr.  Brace, 
and  Boad 
Mr.  Owen  Philipps,  Mr.  Crosfield,  Mr.  Branch,Improvement 
Mr.  Whitbread,  Mr.  William  Redmond,  Mr.  Funds  Bill. 
Ainsworth,  and  Captain  Faber;  and  had  ap­
pointed  in  substitution  (in  respect  of  the  said 
Bill) :  Mr.  Herbert  Lewis,  Mr.  Robert  Fearce,
Mr.  Montagu,  Mr.  Barnard,  Mr.  Adkins,  Mr. 
Keating, Mr. Solicitor  General  for  Scotland, and 
Mr.  Arthur  Stanley. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-  Arbitration 
sented to His  Majesty, that He will be graciously (Treaties-) 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before 
this  House  a  Return  showing  all 
general  Treaties  of  Arbitration  between  the 
United  Kingdom  and  other  States.—(Sir John 
Brunner.) 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  acquainted  the  HouSe  Message from 

that  a  Message  had  been  brought  from  thet he  Lords -
Lords  by  one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

made  by  this  House  to  the  Taff Vale  Railway 
(Cardiff  Railway,  Vesting,  &c.)  Bill  [Lords]
(now  Taff  Vale  Railway  Bill [Lords 1]),  without 
any  Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments TafE Vale 
Bailway 
(Cardiff 
Bailway, 
Vesting,  &c.) 
Bill  [Lords]
{wno TafE Vale 
Bailway  Bill 
[Lords].) 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Amendments 
made  by  this  House  to the  Dunoon  Burgh  Bill 
[Lords'],  without any  Amendment. 

Dunoon 
Burgh  Bill 
[Lords. ] 

A  Motion  was made, and  the  Question  being  Development 

proposed,  That  when  the  Development  and  afld Koad 
Road;  Improvement  Funds  Bill  is  under  con­
sideration  Standing  Committee  C  have leave  to 
sit while the  House  is sitting, and after  Four  of 
the clock—( Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer); 

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lMh  September. 

1909. 

[No. 140. 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  words  "  and 
after  Four,"  and  inserting  the  words  "  but  not 
after  Five "  —  (Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain), — 
instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words  proposed  to be  left  out  stand  part  of  the 
Question : — And  a Debate  arising thereupon ; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in his 
Closure 
claimed,  but  place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question 
Mr.  Deputy 
be now put;  but  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  withheld 
withholds  his  his assent,  and  declined  then  to  put  that  Ques­
assent, and 
gives a  Season. 

tion,  as  he  thought the  House  was prepared  to 
come  to  a  decision  very  soon  without  that 
Motion:—Then  the House resumed  the  Debate. 
And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the 
Question; 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas to  the Right  ;  

The  Noes to  the  Left. 


Tellers for thef Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

{Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for t h e f  S i r  ^ x a n d er  Acland­

Noes 
' 

" o o d>

1
[Viscount  Valentia : 

So it  was resolved  in the  A  ffirmative. 
And  the  Main  Question  being  put; 
The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for the ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Another  Amendment proposed, in p.  28,1, 29, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  property "  to  the 
word  "  interest,"  in  p.  28,  1.  30,  in  order  to 
insert  the  words  "  of  which  the  deceased  was 
not  competent  to  dispose." — (Mr.  Mitchell-
Thomson.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:— 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  28,  1. 31, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "fifteen,"  in  order  to 
insert the  word  "  twenty."—(Earl  of  Kerry.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  " fifteen " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  28,1.  40, 
after the  first  word  "  the,"  to  insert  the  word 
"husband."—(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain.) 

Question  proposed,  That the word "  husband  " 

be  there inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, with­
drawn. 

\ 213. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 28,  1. 40, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "under  the  age  of 
twenty-one  years."—(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks.) 

91. 

Question proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause: — 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 29,  1. 4, 
to  leave  out  the  word  " two,"  in  order to  insert 
the  word "  five."—(Mr.  Gibbs.) 

221. 

„ 

Yeas, 

, 
„  „ 
Tellers for  the}  Hood, 

( Captain  Norton: 
("Sir Alexander  Acland-
' ­(.Viscount  Valentia  : 
So it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Ordered,  That  when  the  Development  and 

Noes, 

92. 

Road  Improvement  Funds  Bill  is  under  con­
sideration  Standing  Committee  C  have  leave  to 
sit while the  House  is  sitting, and  after  Four  of 
the  clock. 

finance Bill. 

The House,  according  to  Order, resolved  itself 

into a Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  42  ( Amendment  of rates of  legacy 

duty  and succession  duty). 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 28,  1. 18, 
to leave  out  from  the word  "  be "  to  the  word 
"  levied," in  1. 20.—(Mr.  George  Faber.) 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out, to  the  word  "  and,"  in 
1. 20, stand  part  of  the  Clause : 

Question  put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 
|  Captain Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Walter Guinness, 

Noes, 

1 Mr.  Hills: 

226. 

85. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 28,  1. 20, 
to leave  out  from  the  second  word  "  A c t  "  to 
the  end of  1. 25.—(Mr.  Evelyn  Cecil.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left  out  stand part of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  j Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr.  Evelyn  Cecil, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Rawlinson : 

212. 

85. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  " t w o  " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause:—Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  29,  1. 22, 
to leave  out  the  words "first  succession  under 
the  disposition  arises,"  in  order  to  insert  the 
words  "  disposition  is  made."—-(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left out stand  part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers  for the |  Mr.  Cave, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Hicks Beach : 

200. 

63. 

Question put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease,
{ Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

V 

Tellers  for the ( Marquess  of Hamilton,  I 

Noes, 

( Lord  Edmund Talbot:  ) 

:192. 

62. 

Clause  No;  43  (Provision  as  to  gifts  and 

dispositions  inter  vivos). 

Amendment proposed,  in  p. 29,  1. 32, to  leave 
out  the  words  "  five  years,"  in  order  to  insert 
the words "  six  months." 

(Mr.  Evelyn Cecil.) 

Question,  That the  words proposed  to  be left 
out stand part of the  Clause,  put, and negatived. 

Question put, That  the  words  "  six  months " 

be there  inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Evelyn  Cecil, 

Yeas, 

i Mr . Peel ) 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton: 

95. 

219. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in p.  29,1.  32, 
in lieu  of  the words there  omitted,  to  insert the 
words  "  three  years."—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

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14th—15 th  September. 

489 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

1 Captain  Norton : 

Tellersfor  the (  Mr. Hunt, 
\  Mr.  Hills: 

Noes, 

[  211. 

qfi

) 
f 

Another Amendment  proposed, in p. 29,1.  40, 
at  the  end,  to  insert  the words "  Provided  that 
the duty shall not be recoverable  from  executors 
or  trustees,  but  shall  only  be  recoverable  from 
the  person  or  persons  benefited  by  a  gift  or 
disposition  in  proportion  to  their  interest  in  it, 
and."—(Mr.  Hills.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words  be there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

An  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  30,1.  2, 
to  leave  out the  word  "  eight,"  in order  to insert 
the  word  "nine."—(Mr.  Hicks  Beach.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  eight" 

stand  part of the  Clause: 

Wednesday, loth  September  1909 : 

Question  put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers for the j  Mr.  Hicks  Beach, 

) 
( Mr.  Leverton  Harris-. J 

Noes, 

174. 

89. 

Other Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  30,1. 4, 
to  leave  out the first word  "purposes,"  in  order 
to  insert  the  words  "  Or  educational."—(Mr. 
James Hope.) 

Question  proposed, That the word  "  purposes  " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause  : —  Amendment,  by-
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  30,  1. 4, 
at  the  end,  to  add  the  words  "  So  much  of 
paragraph  (c)  of  subsection  one  of  section  two 
of  the  principal  Act  and  this  section  as makes 
gifts  inter  vivos  property  which  is  deemed  to 
pass  on  the  death  of  the  deceased  shall  not 
apply  to  gifts  which  are  made  in  consideration 
of  marriage,  or  which  are  proved  to  the  satis­
faction  of  the  Commissioners  to  have  been part 
of  the normal annual expenditure of the deceased, 
and  to  have  been  reasonable,  having  regard  to 
the  amount of his income,  or  which,  in  the  case 
of  any  donee,  do  not  exceed  in  the  aggregate 
one hundred  pounds in  value  or  amount."—(Mr. 
Secretary Haldane.) 

Another  Amendment  proposed to the  proposed 
Amendment,  in  1. 5,  to leave  out from  the  word 
"deceased"  to  the  word  "or,"  in  1.  6.—(Mr. 
Cave.) 

Question,  That the words  proposed  to  be  left 
out stand part of  the proposed  Amendment,  put, 
and agreed  to. 

Proposed  Amendment  amended,  in  1.  6,  by 
inserting,  after  the  word  "income,"  the  words 
"  or  to  the  circumstances."  —  (Mr.  Watson 
Rutherford.) 

Another Amendment  proposed to the proposed 
Amendment,  as  ameuded,  in  1.  6,  to  leave  out 
from  the  word  "  circumstances"  to  the  end 
of  the  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended  :— 
Amendment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  as 
amended,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Proposed  words,  as amended, there  added. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 30, after 

the  words  last  added,  to  add  the  words  "  Pro­
vided  that  where  both  the  person  making  or 
effecting and the  person  taking  a  benefit  under 
any such  gift  inter  vivos,  surrender,  assurance, 
divesting,  or  disposition  shall  both  die  within 
such period of  three  years,  any duty  which  but 
for  this  proviso  might  or  would  be  chargeable 
on the death of  the survivor  of  such  persons  by 
reason  of  any such  gift  inter  vivos,  surrender, 
assurance,  divesting,  or  disposition  shall  not  be 
chargeable  on  such  last-mentioned  death."  —­
(Mr.  Peel.) 

Question  proposed,  That those words be  there 

added :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  30, after 
the  words  last  added,  to  add  the  words  " P r o  ­
vided  that  where  the  value  of  the  property 
chargeable  by  reason  of  any  such  gift  inter 
vivos,  surrender,  assurance,  divesting,  or  dis­
position,  for  whatever  purpose  made,  shall  not 
exceed  one thousand pounds, or where, whatever 
the  amount  of  the property, it  becomes  charge­
able  by  reason  of  any  such  gift,  assurance, 
divesting, or  disposition  made  or  effected  more 
than  twelve  months  but  less  than  three  years 
before  the death of the  deceased, such  property, 
for  the  purpose  of  estate  duty,  shall  not  be 
aggregated  with  any  other  property,  but  shall 
form  an estate by  itself."—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

added. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Mr. Hicks  Beach, 

Tellers  for the  ( Captain Norton, 

1 Mr.  Gibbs: 

) 
j 
| 
,  ( Sir  Edward Strachey :  j 

55. 

140. 

Yeas, 

Question  proposed,  That  those  wort's  be  there 

Noes, 

added  : 

Amendment proposed  to the proposed  Amend­
ment,  in  1.  3,  after  the  word  "  apply," to insert 
the words  "  to  a gift to  or for  the  benefit  of  the 
wife of  the donor, or."—(Colonel  Williams.) 

Question, That  those  words  be  there  inserted 
in the proposed  Amendment,  put, and negatived. 
Another Amendment proposed  to the  proposed 
Amendment,  in  1.  3, after the  word  "apply,"  to 
insert  the  words  " to  a  gift  for  setting  up   or 
maintaining  a son of  the donor in  any profession, 
business, or  employment, or."—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  in the proposed  Amendment. 

.The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Hills, 

Yeas, 

( Sir  Henry  Craik : 

Tellers  for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

)  63. 
J 

i  158 

Noes, 
VOL.  164. 

(  Sir  Edward  Strachey :  j 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 30, after 

the  words  last  added,  to  add  the  words  " P r o­
vided  that, in the  case of  every  person  dying  on 
or  after  the  thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen 
hundred  and  nine,  property  of  any  kind  com­
prised  in  any such  gift  inter  vivos,  surrender, 
assurance,  divesting,  or  disposition  made  or 
effected  by  the  deceased  in  or  out  of  which  he 
originally  created  or  reserved  an  estate  or  in­
terest  for  his own  benefit  shall  not  be  deemed 
to pass  On the death  of  the  deceased  where  such 
estate  or  interest  shall  have  been  surrendered, 
assured, divested, or disposed  of  in  such manner 
and  within  such  time  as  is  prescribed  by  the 
Finance  Act,  1900,  section  eleven  (1),  as 
amended  by this Act,  in regard  to the  surrender, 
assurance, divesting,  or  disposition  of  an estate 
or interest in property  within  the meaning of the 
first-mentioned  section, in  order  to exempt  the 
property  from  being  property  passing  on  the 
death of  the deceased."—(Mr.  Cave.) 

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14th —15th  September.  	

1909. 

[No. 141. 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words be there 

added  :•—Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of  the  Bill. 

[ N o.  1 4 1 .] 
Wednesdayi  15th September  1909. 
The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of .the  clock. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers l'or the j  Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Sir Edward Strachey :  )  THE  Irvine  Harbour  Order  Confirmation Bill  Irvine 

was,  according  to  Order,  read  the  third ?®,bour 

Tellers for  the  f Viscount  Valentia, . 
( Mr.Henry  Forster : 

Noes, 

) 
f 

52.  time and passed.	 

Confirmation 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to"Bi11­

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That  the  Lords, and desire  their  concurrence. 

j  135. 

P R A Y E R SI 

the  Chairman  do report  Progress,  and ask  leave 
to  sit  again  —  (Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain)  : — 
Motion,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause  No.  44  (Amendment  as  to  value  of 

Several Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public 

read;  and ordered  to  lie upon  the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Report. 

property). 

out  subsection  (1).—(Mr.  Hicks  Beach.) 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 30,1. 5, to  leave  Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His Whisky  and 
Index  and other  Potable 
Spirits  (Royat 
Digests  of  Evidence  taken  by  the Royal  Com- Commission.) 
mission  appointed  to  inquire  into  and  report 
Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed  upon  certain  matters  connected  with  the manu-
facture  and  sale  of  Whisky  and  other  Potable 
Spirits. 

Mr.  Watt  rose  in  his  place  and  claimed  to  
 Copy  of  Annual  Report  of  His  Majesty's  Mines  and 

to  be left out, to  the word "  cease," in 1.. 9,  stand 
part of the  Clause  :—Debate  arising; 

Closure 
claimed,  but  move,  That  the  Question  be  now  put;  but  the  	
Chairman 	
withholds  his  Chairman withheld  his assent, and declined then  year  1908.  Part  II.,  Labour. 

assent. 

to put that  Question  :—Debate  resumed. 

Chief  Inspector  of  Mines, with  Statistics for the 

Quarries. 

Ordered, That the said  Papers  do lie  upon the 

Question,  That  the words proposed  to  be left  Table. 

out, to  the  word  "cease,"  in  1. 9,  stand part of 

the  Clause, put, and agreed  to.  


Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  30,1.  10,  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Committee London'11 

(2).  —  (Mr.  Walter  appointed  to  consider, the  Organisation  of Orien-  Committee, 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Oriental 

to  leave  out  subsection 
Guinness.) 

Question, That  the  words  proposed  to  be left 
out, to the  word  "  under,"  in  1. 10, stand  part  of 
the  Clause, put, and agreed  to. 

tal  Studies  in  London, together  with  Minutes  of 
Evidence,  &c. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

An  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  30,1.  14,  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Resident  Settlements. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Straits 

to leave  out the  words "  at the time of,"  in  order  General of  the Federated  Malay  States for 1908. 
to insert the word "  on.":—(Mr. Austen  Chamber-
Ordered, That the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 
lain.) 	

Table. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn.  	

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by 
one of  their  Clerks,  as  followeth : 

the  Lords. 

Another  Amendment  made. 

Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 

Clause  No.  45 amended, and  agreed  to. 

To  report  Progress, and ask leave  to  sit  again.  	

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Superannua- Superannua-

tion Bill, without  any  Amendment. 

tion  Bill. 

The  Lords have  agreed  to  the  Buckie  Burgh  Buckie  Burgb 

and  Buckie  (Cluny)  Harbour  Order  Confirma-
tion  Bill, without  any  Amendment.  	

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair; 
and the* Chairman of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That the  Committee  had  made  Progress in  the 
Bill ;  and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  and Tynan  Railway  Bill,  without  any  Amend- Keady,  and 
the  Committee  may have leave to  sit again. 	
ment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to the Newry, Keady,  Newry, 

Tynan 
Railway  Bill. 

and  Buckie 
(Cluny) 
Harbour 
Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 
next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking  Irish  Land 

into  consideration  the  Irish  Land,  Bill,  as Iiin" 
amended  in  the  Committee  ; 

Adjournment. 

(Captain  Norton.) 

Resolved, That this House  do  now  adjourn. 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  put, That  the  Bill  be  recommitted  to  a 
Committee  of  the whole  House  in respect  of  the 
And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con- Amendments to Clauses 5,10,12,  15, 16, and 52, 
tinued  to  sit  till  twenty-four  minutes  standing  in  the  name of  the  Right  Honourable 
before  Five  of  the  clock  on  Wednesday  Gentleman  the  Member  for  Bristol,  North— 
-, 
morning, adjourned  till this day. 

(Mr.  Birrell) 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the (Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fuller: 

Tellers for,the fViscount Valentia, 
(Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Noes, 

So  it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

j-153. 

)  47. 

No. 141.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

15th  September.  	

4 41 

The  House  immediately  resolved  itself  into 

the  Committee. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  5  (Amendment  of  provisions  as 

to  percentage). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  4,1.  28, to  leave 
out paragraph (c), in order to  insert the  words— 
"  (c)  the  Land  Judge,  in  the  course  of  pro­
ceedings  in  which  the  estate  or  land  is 
eventually  sold  to  the  Land  Commission 
under  section  seven,  or  to  the  Congested 
Districts Board under section  seventy-seven, 
of  the  Act  of  1903,  has  caused  the  Com­
mission  or  Board  to  he  furnished  with 
particulars  and  documents  respecting  the 
estate  or  land  in  pursuance  of  either  of 
these sections ;  or." 

—(Mr.  Birrell.') 

Question,  That  the words  proposed  to  be left 
out stand part of  the Clause, put, and  negatived. 
Question  proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted  : 

Amendment proposed to  the proposed  Amend­
ment, in  1. 4,  after the  word  "  caused,"  to insert 
the words "  or directed."—(Mr.  Maurice  Healy.) 
  be  there 

Question  put,  That  those  words
inserted in the proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Moore,

Teas, 

( Mr.  Gordon : 

Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Noes, 

( Mr. Fuller  : 

52. 

183.: 

Proposed  words there  inserted. 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the j  Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr. Fuller : 

Tellers  for the j  Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Henry Forster  : 

191. 

46. 

Clause  No.  10 amended,  and agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  12  (Interpretation). 
Amendment  proposed,  in p.  7,  1.  15,  to  leave 
out  the  words " first day  of  March,"  in order  to 
insert  the  words  "  fifteenth  day  of  September." 
—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Question,  That  the  words  "  first  day  of 
March"  stand  part  of  the  Clause,  put,  and 
negatived. 

Question  put,  That  the  words  "  fifteenth  day 

of  September "  be there inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

|  Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers  for the j  Mr. Lonsdale, 

197. 

59. 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Moore : 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  7,1.  27, 
to  leave  out the  words  "  first  day  of  March,"  in 
order  to  insert  the  words  "fifteenth  day  of 
September."—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Question,  That  the  words  "first  day  of 
March"  stand  part  of  the  Clause,  put,  and 
negatived. 

Question  put,  That  the  words  "  fifteenth  day 

of  September "  be  there  inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the ]  Captain  Norton,

Yeas, 

j  Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers for the j  Captain  Craig, 
|  Mr.  Gordon  : 
Clause,  as  amended,  agreed  to. 

Noes, 

VOL.  164. 

206. 

46. 

Clause  No.  15  (Limitation  on  amount  of 

advances to  tenant  purchasers).  


Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,  1. 39, to leave 
out  the  words  "  he  resides  on  the  holding,"  in 
order  to insert the  words—• 

"	  (a)  the  tenant resides  on the holding ;  or 

(b)  a substantial  portion  of  the  holding  has  

been  tilled  in  each  of  the  five  years  next  

preceding  the  date  of the  agreement."  


—(Mr.	  Birrell.) 

Question,  That  the  words proposed  to be  left 
out  stand  part  of the  Clause, put, and  negatived. 

Question  proposed,  That those words  be  there 

inserted  : 

Amendment  proposed to the proposed  Amend­
ment,  in  1.  1,  at  the  end,  to  insert  the  words 
"  adjacently  thereto, or such holding is ordinarily 
used  with  the  holding  on  which  the  tenant 
resides."—(Mr.  Moore.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words be there 

inserted  in the proposed Amendment  :—Amend­
ment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Proposed  Amendment  amended by  inserting, 
in  1. 1,  at  the  end,  the  words  "  such  holding  is 
ordinarily  used  with  the  holding  on  which  the 
tenant  resides ;  or."—(Mr.  Moore.)

Another Amendment proposed to the proposed 
Amendment,  as amended, to  leave  out Is. 2 and 
3, in order to  insert the  words— 

"  (b)  one-fourth  part of the arable part  of  the  

holding  is,  at  the  date  of  the  agreement,  

under rotation  of  crops."  


—(Mr.  Moore.) 

Question put, That  the  words  proposed  to  be 
left  out stand  part of  the  proposed  Amendment, 
as amended. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 


Tellers  for the j  Mr. Lonsdale, 


Noes, 

( Captain  Craig : 


215. 

49. 

Proposed  words,-as  amended, there  inserted.  

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended,  


stand  part  of  the  Bill. 

203. 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

j  Captain  Nortmi: 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Tellers  for the  (  Mr.  Moore, 

1 
j

1 
j 
Clause  No.  16  (Prohibition  of  advance).  

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  9,  1. 11,  to  leave  

out  the words "  first  day  of January  in  the  year 
nineteen  hundred  and  eight,"  in  order  to  insert 
the  Words " fifteenth day  of  September  nineteen 
hundred  and nine."—(Mr.  Birrell.)

j Captain  Craig: 

36. 

Question  put, That  the  words proposed  to  be 

left out stand  part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the j  Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien,  ) 
)

1 
j

Tellers for  the  j Mr. Lonsdale, 

|  Captain  Craig: 

( Mr.  Boland: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

197. 

30. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause  stand 

part of  the  Bill:—Debate  arising  ; 

Mr.  Birrell  rose  in  his  place  and claimed  to 

move,  That  the  Question be  now put. 

Question  put, That  the  Question  be  now put.  Question  put 
The  Committee  divided. 
^ a o Z w  e 
Tellers  for thefMr. Joseph Pease, 

of  Debate.) 

Yeas, 

'  , 

Tellers for L' thej 
Noes, 

\Captain  Norton: 
f Sir  Alexander Acland-
,	 
„ 
<  Hood,
(Mr.  Henry  Forster  : 

3  L 

v 
J  1 < J < J' 
)
|









\5th—\$th  September. 

1909. 

[No. 141. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause 

The  said Clause  was accordingly read  a second 

stand  part of  the  Bill. 

time. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the fMr. Joseph Pease, 

\ Captain  Norton : 

fSir Alexander  Acland-


m  ,, 
Tellers for the I   ^  ^ 

Yeas, 
j. 

Noes, 

[Mr.  Henry  Forster  : 

j  191. 

i  40. 

Clause  No.  52 

(Grant  of  superannuation 

allowances  by  Congested  Districts  Board). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  25,  1.  4,  at  the 

beginning, to  insert the  words— 

"  (1)   It shall be lawful for the Congested  Dis­
tricts Board, with  the  approval of  the  Treasury, 
to  grant  to  any  permanent  member  of  the 
Board  on  retirement  such  superannuation  or 
other  allowance  (if  any)  as  he  would  have  been 
-qualified for  under  the  provisions  of  the  SuperT 
annuation  Acts,  1834  to  1892,  or  any  Acts 
amending  the  same, if  he were retiring  from the 
permanent  Civil  Service  of  the  State.  Any 
such  allowance  shall  be  payable out of  the funds 
at  the  disposal  of  the  Board  ;  provided  that 
where a permanent  member  wa,s, at  the  time  of 
his  appointment,  a  permanent  Civil  Servant  of 
tfie  jState such  portion  of  the  allowance  as  the 
Treasury  determine  to  be  properly  payable  in 
respect  of  his  previous  service:  in that  capacity 
shall be payable  in  the  same  manner  as a super­
annuation  or  other allowance  under those  Acts.'' 
') 
—(Mr,  Birrell, 

Question  proposed,  That those words be  there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed to the proposed  Amend­
ment,  in  1.  (6,  after  the  word  "  State,"  to insert 
the  words  "$nd  all  Civil  Service  rules  as  to 
retirement  for  age  shall apply."—(Mr.  Moore.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  in the  proposed  Amendment. 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made to 
the  Clause, in  1.  1,  by  inserting,  after the  word 
"  have," the words  "  at the instance  of  a  person 
interested."—(Mr.  Moore.) 

Arid the  Question  being proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted:—The  said  proposed 
Amendment  was, with leave  of the  House,  with­
drawn. 

Then  an Amendment  was made to  the  Clause.  

Resolved, That the further consideration of the  

proposed  Clause, as amended,  be now  adjourned.  

—(Mr.  Birrell.)  


Ordered,  That 

the  proposed  Clause,  as 
amended  on consideration of  the Bill, as amended 

in the  Committee, and  on recommittal,  be  taken  

into further  consideration  this' day. 


The  Police  Bill  was, according  to  Order, read  Police  Bill, 

a second  time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the whole  House  for  this  day.— 
(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Ways  and  


Committee  of  Ways  and  Means ; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  d»y,  


resolve  itself into the said  Committee.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Finance 
Committee  on Finance  [Consolidated  Fund]  ;  |OoBsoJidated 

Resolved, That  this House  will, Upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship ^nfoanchise­
(Enfranchisement)  (No.  2) Bill; 

2) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  8i"­

this  day. 

The  Committee  divided.  

,, 
rp ,, 

j. 

("Sir Alexander Acland­

Yeas 
'* 

.IIood>

1
[Viscount  Valentia: 

Tellers for the  Mr. Joseph Pease, 
Captain  Norton:  


Noes, 

Proposed  words there  inserted.  

Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 

Bill,  as amended, to  be  reported.  


41. 

}  190. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair  ;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman reported, That  the  Committee 
had made  Amendments  to  the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  and  on  recommittal,  be now  taken 
into  consideration. 

The  House  accordingly  proceeded  to  take  the 

Bill into  consideration. 

A  -Clause  was  offered to  be added to  the  Bill 
{Amendment  and  withdrawal  of  proposals  of 
the  Estates  Commissioners).—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Arid  the said  Clause was brought  up, and read 

the first time. 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  said  Clause  be  now 
read  a second  time ; 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after Twelve of  the dock  on Thursday morning  ; 

Thursday, 16th September 1909 : 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Prisons 
Second  Reading  of  the  Prisons  (Scotland)  Pill  j j g f t g SU 
[Lords]', 

• 

1 

Ordered, That  the Bill be  read  a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Summary 

Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction 
(Scotland)  Act, 1908, Amendment  Bill  [Lords]; Act, 1908, 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time BiU 

t.his day. 

[lords.]

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Child  Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial)  (Trial)  Bin 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order of  the day  being  read,  for  taking  London 
into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill Elections 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee)  ; 

1  ' 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

Th® Order  of  the  day  bejijg  read, for  talking  Bishopric  of 
into consideration the Bishopric of  Sheffield Bill,  Sheffield Bill, 
as amended in the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-  Councils 
o-no-pa  Rill  • 
gages 15111 , 

'  Mortgages 

B i ll 

And the Question being p u t : — It  was resolved 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

in  the  Affirmative. 

this  day. 





I4F]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

1 5 ^ — 1 6^  September. 


Police 
[Expenses.] 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 
Beport. 

A  Motion  being  made,  That-this  House  will, 
this  day,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to 
consider  of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of 
moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of such  sums 
as may  be  required  for  the  payment  of  services 
rendered by the Metropolitan  Police for Imperial 
and National  purposes,  in pursuance  of  any  Act 
of  the  present  Session to  amend  the  Metropoli­
tan  Police  Acts,  1829 to  1899—(Mr.  Secretary 
Gladstone); 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,  acquainted  the  House 
that  His 
Majesty,  having  been  informed  of  the  subject-
matter  of  this  Motion,  recommends  it  to  the 
consideration  of the  House. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will>  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the  said  Committee. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put, pursuant  to 
the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th day 
of  August last, it being then  twenty-eight 
minutes  before  One  of  the  clock  on 
Thursday  morning,  till  this day. 

[No.  142.] 

Thursday, 16th September 1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before  Three  of the  clock. 

P  B A Y E B S. 

SE V E R A  L  Public  Petitions  were  presented, 

and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Supreme  Court  Mr. Hobhouse presented, pursuant  to the direc­
of Judicature.  t i o ng   o f  s e v e r a i  Acts  of  Parliament,—Account 
No. 280.  of  Receipts  and  Expenditure  of  the  Paymaster 
General,  on  behalf  of  the  Supreme  Court  of 
Judicature, in  respect  of  the  Funds  of  Suitors 
of  the  Court  in  the  year  ended  28th  February 
1909,  and  of  Account  of  the  National  Debt 
Commissioners for  the  same period  in respect  of 
Funds  held  by  them  on  behalf  of  the  Supreme 
Court  of  Judicature,  with  the  Report  of  the 
Comptroller  and Auditor  General  thereon. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

Trade  Beports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic 
and  Consular Reports, Annual  Series, No. 4353. 
Ordered,  That the said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Message from  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
the  Lords.  Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by 

one of their  Clerks,  as followeth: 

The  Lords  have agreed  to the Clydebank and 
Clydebank 
and  District  District  Water  Order  Confirmation  Bill, without 
Water  Order  any" Amendment. 
Confirmation 
Bill. 
Aberdeen 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Aberdeen 
Harbour  Order Harbour  Order  Confirmation  Bill,  without  any 
Ccnflrmataon 

A m e n d m e n t . 

Irish  Land 
BiU- 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 

into  further  consideration  the  Clause  (Amend­
ment and withdrawal of proposals  of  the  Estates 
Commissioners)  proposed  on consideration  of the 
Irish  Land  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Committee, 
and  on  recommittal; 

Which Clause (read  a second time and amended 
upon the 15th day of this instant September) was— 

VOL.   164. 

"  (1)  Where  the  Estates  Commissioners  have 
made  a  proposal  for  the  purchase  of  an  estate 
or  untenanted  land, and  the  owner  objects  to 
the  proposal  on  the ground  that adjoining  lands 
belonging  to  him have not  been  included  in the 
proposal, if the  Estates  Commissioners  refuse  to 
withdraw  the proposal, or  to  amend the same by 
including therein such adjoining lands, the owner 
may,  within  the  prescribed  time  and  in  the 
prescribed  manner, apply  to  the Judicial  Com­
missioner for an order that no further proceedings 
be  taken upon the  proposal: 

(2)  Upon  any  such  application  the  Judicial 
Commissioner  may,  if  he  is  satisfied  that  the 
said  adjoining 
lands  would  be  substantially 
depreciated  in  value  by  the  purchase  of  the 
estate  or  untenanted  land  as  proposed,  order 
that  no  further  proceedings  be  taken  for  the 
purchase of  the  estate  or  untenanted  land  upon 
the proposal  unless within  a  time  to  be  named 
in  the order  the  Estates  Commissioners  amend 
the  proposal  so  as  to  include  the  said  adjoining 
lands, or  such  portion  or  portions  thereof  as, in 
the opinion  of  the Judicial  Commissioner,  ought 
properly  to  be included ;" 

The  House accordingly  proceeded  to  take the 

said  Clause,  as amended, into  further  considera­
tion ;  and the said  Clause was made  part of  the 
Bill. 

Another  Clause (Amendment  and  withdrawal 
of  proposals  of  the  Congested  Districts  Board) 
—(Mr. Birrell)—was twice  read;  and made part 
of the  Bill. 

Another  Clause  was  offered  to  be  added  to 
the Bill  (Powers of  investment).—(Mr.  Birrell.)
And  the  said  Clause was brought  up, and read 

the first time. 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being put, That the  said Clause  be read a second 
time; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers  for  the/ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

t Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for thefMr.  Moore,

Noes, 

(.Mr.  Charles Craig : 

}  211. 

So it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made  to 
the  Clause, in  1.  2, by  inserting,  after  the  word 
"  Acts,"  the  words  " or any  superior  interest," 
—(Mr.  Maurice  Healy.) 

And the Question  being put, That  those words 

be there inserted :—It  passed  in the  Negative. 

Then  an Amendment  was made to the  Clause. 
And  the  Clause,  as  amended,  was  made  part 

of the  Bill. 

Another  Clause was offered to  be added to the 
Bill (Untenanted land).—(Mr. Attorney  General 
for Ireland.) 

And the said Clause  was brought up, and read 

the first time. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being put, That the  said  Clause  be read  a second 
time ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the | Mr. Joseph Pease, 

I Captain  Norton : 
ii.  f Sir  Alexander Acland-

Yeas, 
m  n 
£ 
Tellers for  the I 
o e s  ' 

[Marquess of  Hamilton  :  


So  it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 


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198. 

37. 

444 

16th  September. 

1909.  [No. 142. 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made  to 
the  Clause,  in  1.  1,  by  inserting,  after the  word 
"  land,"  the  words "  other  than  land  subject  to 
the  repayment  of  an  advance  under  the  Land 
Purchase  Acts."—(Mr.  Moore.) 

And  the Question being put, That those words 

be  there  inserted  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers  for  the] Mr.  Charles Craig, 
I Mr.  Hugh  Barrie: 
Tellers for  the J Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton : 

1 
J 
1 
J 

34. 

191. 

So  it  passed in  the  Negative. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Clause,  in  1.  1,  by  inserting,  after  the 
word " land,"  the words  "  exceeding two  hundred 
acres in  extent."—(Mr.  Maurice Healy.) 

And  the  Question  being proposed,  That  those 

words be  there  inserted; 

Mr.  Speaker 
puts  Question 
forthwith 
(pursuant  to 
Order  of  the 
House.) 

And  it  being  half  an  hour  after  Ten  of  the 
clock,  Mr.  Speaker  proceeded,  pursuant  to  the 
Order  of  the  House  of  the  15th  day  of  June 
last,  to  put  forthwith  the  Question  on  the 
A mendment already  proposed from the  Chair. 

And  the Question  being  put, That  those words 

be  there inserted  :—It  passed in  the  Negative. 

Mr.  Speaker 
puts  Question 
forthwith 
(pursuant  to 
Order  of  the 
House.) 

Mr.  Speaker  then  proceeded  successively  to 
put forthwith  the Question  on the  Clause moved 
by  the  Government,  and  on  any  Amendments 
to  the Bill  moved  by  the  Government  of  which 
notice  had  been  given. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  Clause 

be  added  to the  Bill; 
The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers  for the/ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(.Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the!
Noes, 

A c l a n d

|Vi 8C0Unt  Valentia-. 

)  231. 
f 

'  1 
j 

55. 

So  it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Then  Amendments  were made to  the  Bill. 
Another  Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to  the  Bill, in p. 21,1.11, by inserting  at the end 
thereof  the words "Provided  that  a  permanent 
member  shall  not  be  removed  from  his  office 
except  by  an  Order  in  Council;  and  any  such 
Order shall be  laid  before  each  House of  Parlia­
ment  forthwith, and  if  an  Address  is  presented 
to  His  Majesty  by  either  House  of  Parliament 
within  the next  subsequent  forty  days  on which 
that  House  has sat  after any  such  Order is  laid 
before it praying that the Order may be annulled, 
His  Majesty  in  Council  may  annul  the  Order, 
and  it shall  thenceforth be void."—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

And  the Question  being put, That the  Amend­

ment be  made; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the fMr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

(Captain  Norton: 

"I  „„„
}
1 
"(Marquess  of  Hamilton :  ) 

Tellers for thef Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  26,  1. 33,  by  leaving  out  the 
first word  "  congested."—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

And  the Question being put, That  the Amend­

ment be  made; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right  ; 
The  Noes to'the  Left. 
Tellers for thefMr. Joseph Pease,

Yeas, 

\ Captain Norton:

Tellers for thef Viscount  Valentia,
(Mr.  Henry  Forster :

Noes, 

1- 236 
J 
!
J 

^ 

So  it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  27,  1.  3,  by  leaving  out  the 
words "  Act  of  1903,"  and  inserting  the  words 
"Land  Purchase  A c t s"  —  (Mr.  Birrell),—
instead  thereof. 

And  the Question being put, That the Amend­

ment be  made ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for  the] Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

1  ggg
J 

Tellers for the | Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

\ 

Noes, 

1 Marquess of  Hamilton : I 

So  it  was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 

Another Amendment  was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill, in p. 29,1.  8, by  inserting  at the end 
thereof  the  words— 

"  (8)   In  fixing  the  price  to  be  paid  for  an 
estate  or  untenanted  land  under  this  section  no 
additional  allowance shall  be made  on  account  of 
the  purchase  being  compulsory."—(Mr.  Birrell.) 
And  the Question  being put, That the Amend­

ment be  made ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for thef Viscount  Valentia, 
IMr.  Henry  Forster: 

Noes, 

So  it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

\  ggj 
J 
\ 
J 

48. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the Bill, in  p. 30,  1. 37,  by  inserting  at  the 
end thereof  the words— 

"  (3)  Where  a present  tenancy  has  been  sold 
under  a  writ  of  execution  and  assigned  by  the 
sheriff  to  the  landlord, or  a trustee  for the  land­
lord, the  tenancy  shall, for  the  purposes  of  this 
section, be  deemed  to  have been  determined."— 
(Mr.  Birr ell.) 

And the  Question being put, That the Amend­

ment be  made; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  thef Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

ICaptain  Norton: 

1 ^34 
| 
\ 
I Marquess  of  Hamilton ;  J 

Tellers for thej Mr. Henry  Forster, 

So it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill, in p. 31,1. 2, by leaving out  the word 
"  a,"  and  inserting  the  words  "  any  existing 
lease  within  the  meaning  of  the  Act  of  1881, 
and  any "—(Mr.  Birrell),—instead  thereof. 

And the Question being put, That  the Amend­

ment  be made ; 

The  House  divided. 

 
 
 
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445 

The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the [Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
(.Captain  Norton: 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  theJ Viscount  Valentia, 

Noes, 

(Lord  Balcarres : 

}2 2 7. 

46. 

So  it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  the  third  time 

to-morrow. 

Police  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the  Police  Bill; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into the said  Committee. 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of Ways  and Means ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Places  of

Worship
m e n " *)
Bil1­

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  (No.  2.)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That  it 
is  expedient  to  authorise  the  payment,  out  of 
moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of  such  sums 
as may  be required for  the  payment of  services 
rendered by the  Metropolitan Police for Imperial 
and  National  purposes, in  pursuance  of  any  Act 
of  the present Session to  amend the  Metropolitan 
Police  Acts,  1829  to  1899.—(Mr.  Secretary 
Gladstone.) 

Friday,  \lth  September 1909  :  


Question  put, and agreed  to.  

Resolution  to be  reported.  


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman  reported, That the Committee 
had  come to  a  Resolution. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 

House  without  Question  put,  pursuant  

to  the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th  

day  of  August  last, it  being  then  seven­
teen  minutes  after  Twelve  of  the  clock  

on  Friday  morning,  till  this  day.  


Prisons 
(Scotland) 
Bill 

[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Prisons  (Scotland)  Bill 
[Lords]; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

' [No.  143.] 

Friday,  11th September  1909. 

The  House met  at Twelve  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Summary 
Jurisdiction 
(Scotland) 
Act.  1908, 
Amendment 
[Lords.] 
Bill 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction 
(Scotland)  Act,  1908, Amendment  Bill  [.Lords] ; 
Ordered, That the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Child  Murder 
(Trial)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

SE V E R A  L  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  Public 

and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the J?*1*1®?®', 
Vide  Fifth 
Beport. 

m   I I
Table.

r

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Colonial 

Command,—Copy  of  Colonial  Report  No.  611 
(Sierra  Leone,  Annual  Report  for  1908). 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 


Table. 


Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

Resolved, That  an  humble  Address  be  pre- war 

upon  Monday  next. 

London 
Elections  Bill. 

The  Order of  the day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee); 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Bishopric  of 
Sheffield Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read,  for  taking 
into consideration the  Bishopric of  Sheffield Bill, 
as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Union 
Officers 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Union  Officers (Ireland) 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

sented to  His Majesty, that He will be graciously  Department 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before: this  House  a  Return  of  all War  Depart­
ment  Lands  sold  since  the  1st  day  of  January 
1906,  specifying  in  each  case  the  position  and 
area of the Land sold.—(Mr.  Arthur  Lee.) 

Sir Joseph Leese reported  from  the  Committee Selection 
of  Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the (Standing 
following  Member from  Standing  Committee  C Standing 
(in  respect  of  the  Development  and  Road Committee  C. 
Improvement  Funds  Bill)  :—Sir  John  Jardine-, Development 
and  had appointed  in substitution  (in  respect  of  Improvement 
the  said  Bill)  :  Mr. Cowan. 

Committees.) 

Funds  Bill. 

and  Boad 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Irish  Land 

Third  Reading  of  the  Irish  Land  Bill;

Bil1­

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be now  read the 
third  time; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  Out  the  word  "now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "  upon  this  day  three  months." —  (Sir 
Edward Carson.) 

Police 
^Expenses.] 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  resolved 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 

itself  into  a  Committee  on Police  [Expenses], 

"  now "  stand  part of the  Question  ; 

VOL.  164. 

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11 th—20th  September. 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas to the  Right;  

The  Noes to the  Left. 

Tellers  for  the f Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

1 Sir Edward Strachey 

}  174. 

Tellers  for the] Viscount  Valentia, 

1 

Noes, 

i Marquess  of  Hamilton-, 

51. 

So it was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
And  the Main  Question  being  put; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  now read  the  third 
.  time:—The  Bill  was accordingly  read the  third 

time and  passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

[Nq, 144 
Copy  of  Index  to  Reports  of  His  Majesty's  Trade  Reports. 

1909, 

Diplomatic and Consular Representatives Abroad 
on  Trade  and  Subjects of  general  interest  (with 
Appendix),  1908. 

Ordered, That the  said  Papers  do lie upon the 


Table. 


Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Superannua­
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  tion Act, 1884, 
Treasury  Minute  under  the  Superannuation 
Act,  1884, dated  15th September 1909, declaring 
that  James  Goodbury,  Labourer,  Royal  Gun 
Factory,  War  Office,  was  appointed  without  a 
Civil  Service  Certificate  through  inadvertence 
on  the part  of  the head of  his  Department. 

the Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Police  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on  the Police  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this House  will,  upon  Monday 

next, resolve  itself  into the  said  Committee. 

The  Master  of  Elibank presented,—Return  to  Bast  India 
an  Address  to  His  Majesty, dated  the  14th  day  (Supersession 
of  this instant  September, for a Return  relative of  Officers.) 
to  East  India  (Supersession  of  Officers). 

Ways  and 
Means. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  of Ways  and  Means ; 

Ordered, That  the said  Return  do lie  upon the 


Table. 


Resolved, That this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next, resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

County 
Councils 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-

Bill.  

g a g e s  B i l 1  ' 

Ordered, That the  Bill be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Union  Officers  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Union  Officers  (Ireland) 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Police 
[Expenses.] 

Captain  Norton  reported from the  Committee 
on p 0lice  [Expenses]  a  Resolution  ;  which  was 
read, as followeth  : 

That it is  expedient  to  authorise  the  payment, 
out  of  moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of  such 
sums  as  may  be  required  for  the  payment  of 
services  rendered  by  the  Metropolitan  Police 
for Imperial and National  purposes, in  pursuance 
of  any Act  of  the  present  Session  to  amend  the 
Metropolitan  Police  Acts,  1829 to  1899. 

The  said Resolution, being read  a second  time, 

was agreed  to. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put, pursuant to 
the  Order of  the  House  of  the  20th day 
of  August  last, it  being  then  ten  minutes 
after Five  of the clock,-till  Monday  next. 

[No.  144.] 

Monday, 20th September  1909. 

The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

Public  AP U B L IC  Petition  was presented,  and  read; 

and ordered  to lie upon  the  Table. 

Petitions. 

Vide  Fifth 

Beport. 

Continental 
Railway 
Investigations. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  to  the  Board  of 
Trade  on  Railways in Austria  and  Hungary,  by 
Mr. C.  H.  Pearson  and Mr.  N.  S.  Reyntiens. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant shop itours 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— Act, 1904. 
Copies  of  Orders  made  by  the  Councils of  the 
County  of  Flint  and  Borough  of  Eccles,  and 
confirmed  by  the  Secretary  of  State  for  the 
Home  Department,  fixing  the  hours of  closing 
for  certain  classes  of  Shops. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Agricultural 

Command, —  Copy  of  Abstracts  showing  the  Statistics 
acreage  under  Crops  and  the  numbers  of  Live  (Ireland-) 
Stock in  each  County  and  Province  in  Ireland, 
for the  year  1908-9. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

A  Message  was  delivered  by  Admiral  Sir  Royal  Assent. 

Henry  Frederick  Stephenson,  Gentleman  Usher 
of  the Black  Rod: 

Mr.  Speaker, 

The  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commission,  for  declaring  His  Royal 
Assent  to  several  Acts  agreed  upon  by  both 
Houses^ desire  the immediate  attendance  of  this 
Honourable  House  in  the  House  of  Peers,  to 
hear the  Commission read. 

Accordingly  Mr.  Speaker,  with  the  House, 
went  up  to  the  House of  Peers :—And  having 
returned; 

Mr.  Speaker  reported, That the House,  at the 
desire  of  the  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commission! had  been  at the  House of 
Peers, where  a Commission under the Great Seal 
was  read,  giving,  declaring,  and  notifying  the 
Royal  Assent  to  the  several  Acts  therein  men­
tioned ;  and that  the  Lords  thereby  authorised 
had declared  the Royal Assent to  the said  Acts, 
as follow : 

1.  South  Africa  Act,  1909. 
2.  Labour  Exchanges  Act,  1909. 
3.	  Trawling in Prohibited Areas (Prevention) 


Act,  1909.  


4.  Superannuation  Act,  1909. 
5.	  Electric  Lighting  Orders  Confirmation  


(No.  1) Act,  1909.  


6.	  Gas and  Water  Orders  Confirmation  Act,  


1909. 


7.  Tramways  Orders Confirmation Act,  1909. 

No. 144.]  9  EDW.  V I I. 

20th—21st  September. 

447 

8.	  Buckie  Burgh  and  Buckie  (Cluny)  Har­
bour  Order  Confirmation Act,  1909. 
9.	  Aberdeen  Harbour  Order  Confirmation 

Question  proposed, That the word "  unearned  " 
inserted : —  Amendment,  by  leave, 

be  there 
withdrawn. 

Act,  1909. 

10.	  Clydebank  and  District  Water  Order 

Confirmation  Act,  1909. 

11.	  North  Eastern  Railway  Act,  1909. 
12.	  Glasgow  Corporation  Act,  1909. 
13.  Dunoon  Burgh  Apt,  1909. 
14.	  Taff  Vale Railway  Act,  1909. 
15.	  Newry,  Keady,  and Tynan  Railway  Act> 

1909. 

Selection 
(Standing 
Committees.) 
Standing 
Committee  C. 
Development 
and  Road 
Improvement 
Funds  Bill. 

Sir Joseph Leese reported from the  Committee 
of  Selection;  That  they  had  discharged  the 
following  Member  from  Standing  Committee  C 
(in  respect  of  the  Development  arid  Road 
Improvement  Funds  Bill)  :—Mr.  Hugh  Barrie; 
and had appointed  in  substitution  (in  respect  of 
the  said  Bill):  Lord  Balcarres. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Finance  Bill. 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  pn the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No. 46  (Income tax  for  1909-10). 
Amendment  proposed, in  p. 30,1. 41, to  leave 
out  the  words  "  two  pence,"  in  order  to insert 
the  words  "  one  penny."—(Lord  Willoughby de 
Eresby.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "  two 
pence "  stand part of  the  Clause  :—Amendment, 
by  leave,  withdrawn. 
Clause  agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  47  (Super-tax  on  incomes  over 

£5,000). 

Amendment  proposed, in p. 31,  1. 26, to leave 
out  the  word  "  for,"  in  order  to insert the word 
"during."—(Mr.  Walter Guinness.) 

Question  put, That the word  "  for "  stand  part 

of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided; 
Tellers for the j  Mr. Jomph Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Captain Norton : 

200. 

Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Walter Guinness,  j 
1 Mr.  Fell: 

Noes, 

84. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 31,1.  27, 
"  the,"  to  insert  the  word 

after  the  word 
"  separate."—(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks.) 

Question  proposed, That the  word  "  separate  " 

be there inserted  :—Debate  arising; 

Mr.  Buxton  rose  in  his  place and  Claimed  to 

move, That  the  Question  be now  put. 

Question  put. That  the  Question  be now  put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

1 
J 
Tellers  for the  ( Sit Frederick Banbury, ) 
j 

( Mr.  Evelyd  Cecil: 

( Captain  Norton: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

170. 

82. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  word 

"  separate "  be there inserted. 

Question  put 
( pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Joynson-Hicks, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

) 
( Mr.  Leverton Harris  :  j 
) 
j 

( Captain  Norton: 

87. 

176. 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in p. 31,  1. 27, 
"the,"  to  insert  the  word 

after  the  word 
"  unearned."— (Mr. Joynson-Hicks.)

VOL.	   164. 

Another  Amendment proposed, in  p. 31,  1. 27, 
after the  word  "  the," to  insert the  word  "  net." 
—-(Mr.  Samuel Roberts.) 

Question  put,  That  the  word  "  net"  be there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Samuel  Roberts, 
1 Mr.  Leverton Harris : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Peaze, 
( Captain  Norton  : 

Noes, 

9 4. 

199. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 31,1.  29, 
to  leave  out from the word  "  pounds "  to the  end 
of  subsection  (1),  in  order  to  insert  the  words 
"  A  super-tax  or  additional  income  tax  at  the 
following  rates :— 

Income. 

£	 

£ 
Exceeds  5,000  but  does  not  exceed  6,000 
7,000 
8,000 
10,000 

„ 
„ 
„ 

„ 
„ 
„ 

„ 
„ 
„ 

6,000 
7,000 
8,000 
10,000 	

Pence in 
the £. 

d. 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6." 

—(Mr.  Chiozza Money.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out, to  the  word  "  of,"  in  1. 31, stand 
part  of  the  Clause : —  Amendment,  by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  31,1.  31, 
to leave out the  word "  three,"  in order  to insert 
the  word  "  five."—(Mr.  Joynson-Hicks.) 

Question,  That  the  word  "  three "  stand  part 

of  the  Clause, put, and agreed  to. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 31,  1. 32, 
at the end, to insert the words " Provided always 
that  the  super-tax  shall  only  be  chargeable  to 
such  an  extent  as shall  not  reduce  the  income 
below  five  thousand  pounds."  —  (Mr.  Evelyn
Cecil.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  he  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Evelyn  Cecil, 

) 
( Mr.  Walter  Guinness :  j 
1 
j 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
( Captain Norton  ; 

NoeS, 

Yeas, 

89. 

188. 

Another  Amendment proposed,  in p. 31,1.  35, 
to  leave  out  the  words "  for the  previous  year." 
—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:— 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 31,1.  35, 
after the  word  "  year,"  to  insert the words  "less 
any portion  thereof retained  or used for trade  or 
business purposes."—(Mr.  Haworth.) 

Question  proposed,  That  t h o se  words  be  there 

inserted: 

Tuesday, 21 st  September 1909 : 

Question  put. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  thefMr. Haworth,

Yeas, 

tMr.  Jpynson-ffic/cs : 

Tellers for  the/ Mr.   Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

(Captain  Norton : 

82. 

J 

j-151. 

Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  32,  1. 6, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "  abroad."—(Mr.  Hicks 
Beach.) 

3  L  4 

Question,  That  the  word  "  abroad "  stand 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended,  


part of  the  Clause, put, and  agreed  to. 

stand  part of  the  Bill.  


20th—%ist 

1909. 

[No. 144. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 32,1.  8, 
at the  end, to  add  the words  "  For  the  purposes 
of  the  super-tax,  if  within  or  within  twelve 
months  after  the year of  assessment  any  person 
charged  to the super-tax, whether  he  shall  have 
computed  his  profits  or  gains  on  the  amount 
thereof  in  the  preceding  year  or on  an  average 
of  years,  shall  find  and  prOve  to  the  Special 
Commissioners  that his profits and  gains  during 
the  year  for  which  the  computation  was  made 
fell  short of  the sum  so computed, the said  Com­
missioners  shall  cause  the  assessment  made  for 
such  year  to  be  amended,  and  reduced  to  the 
amount  of  the  actual  profits  and  gains  made 
during  the year for which  the  computation  was 
made;  and  in case tax  shall  have  been  paid  on 
the  sum  assessed,  the  sum  overpaid  shall  be 
repaid by the  Commissioners of  Inland  Revenue, 
and in  case the  amount of  the actual profits and 
gains made  during  the year for which  the  com­
putation  was made does not exceed five thousand 
pounds, then no super-tax  shall  be  payable,  and 
all  super-tax  (if  any)  which  has  already  been 
paid  in  respect  of  such year shall  be repaid  by 
the  Commissioners  of  Inland  Revenue."—(Mr. 
Samuel  Roberts.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

added. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
1 Captain  Norton  : 
Tellers for the ("Mr.  Hicks Beach, 
{Sir  Henry  Craik: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

. 

"i  . 
j 
\ 
J 

Clause  No.  48  amended, and agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  49  (Relief  in respect of  children).  

Amendment  proposed,  in p. 32,  1. 26, to leave 

out  the word  "  ten,'  in  order  to insert  the word 

"  twenty."—(Mr.  Hicks  Beach.)  


Question  proposed, That  the word "  ten " stand 

part  of  the  Clause:—Amendment,  by  leave,  

withdrawn. 


An  Amendment  made.  

Clause,  as amended, agreed  to.  

Motion  made, and  Question,  That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress, and  ask  leave  to  sit  

again—(Mr. Chancellor of the  Exchequer),—put, 

and agreed  to.  


Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed the  Chair ;  and  

the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  

That  the  Committee  had  made  Progress in the  

Bill;  and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  

the  Committee  may  have leave  to  sit again.  


Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself  into the said  Committee.  


Yeas, 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the (Mr.  Samuel Roberts, 

1 
\ Sir  Frederick Banbury :  J 
"1 
J 

,, 

Tellers for the f Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

1 Captain  Norton: 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p.  32,1.  8, 

at the  end, to  add the  words— 

"  (3)  For  the  purposes  of  the  super-tax,  in 
addition  to  the  deductions  authorised  by  the 
preceding  subsection,  the  following  deductions 
Shall be permitted :— 

Where  the  income  is  derived  from  capital 
which  has  been  invested  in  leasehold  pro­
perty,  mines,  or  other  wasting  subject-
matter, there  shall  be allowed  as a deduction 
(under  whatever  schedule  the  said  income 
may  be  assessed)  such  a  sum  as  fairly 
represents  the  loss or destruction  of  capital 
during  the  year  of  assessment  incident  to 
the  wasting  nature  of  the subject-matter  in 
which  the said  capital  is invested." 

—(Mr.  Harmood-Banner.)

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

added. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for thefMr. Harmood-Banner, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Remnant: 

Tellers for the J Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

52. 

(

\ 

121. 

J 

Noes, 

f Captain  Norton  : 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  32,1.  8, 
at  the  end, to  add  the words  "  and  also  in the 
case  of  any  person  who  is  a  tenant  for  life, or 
has  a  limited  interest  in  any  mineral  royalties, 
such  part of  the income from  such  royalties  as 
is  not  available  for  his  personal  use."—(Mr. 
Younger.)

Question  proposed,  That those words  be there 

added :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Question  proposed,  That 

the  Clause,  as 
amended,  stand  part  of  the  Bill:  —Debate 
arising; 

Mr.  Stephen  Collins rose  in  his  place  and 
Closure 
c l a i l n e c  l  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
Chi^mau11' 
withholds his  put;  but the  Chairman  withheld  his assent, and 
declined  then  to  put  that  Question  :—Debate 
assent. 
resumed. 

The  Order   of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Ways and  


Committee  of  Ways  and  Means; 

Means. 

Resolved,  That  this House  will, upon  Wednes­
day next, resolve  itself  into the said  Committee.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Finance 

Committee  on Finance  [Consolidated  Fund]  ; 

[Consolidated 

Resolved, That  this House  will,  upon  Wednes­
day  next, resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  House, according to  Order, resolved'itself  Police  Bill, 

into a  Committee  on  the Police  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  1  (Annual  contribution  towards 

expanses  of  Metropolitan  Police). 

Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause  stand 

part of the  Bill: 

Motion  made,  and  Question,  That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr.  Hay),—put,  and agreed  to. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have  leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

Resolved,  That  this House  do  now  adjourn.—  Adjournment. 

(Mr,  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  nine  minutes  after 
Three  of  the  clock  on Tuesday  morning,  

adjourned till this day. 
















No. 145.]  9  E D W.  T I  L 

21 st  September. 

449 

[No.  145.] 

Tuesday, 21 st September  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three of  the  clock. 

P E AT  E S S. 

Districts  (Scotland)  Act,  1897 ;  to  facil  itat 
the  provision  of  small  agricultural  Holdings  in 
Crofting  Parishes  in  Scotland,  and  for  other 
purposes  connected  therewith;  to  which  the 
Lords  desire  the concurrence of this  House. 

The House, according to  Order, resolved itself  Finance  BilL 

into  a Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

Public  SE V E R A  L  Public  Petitions  were  presented, 

and  read ;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the 

Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth  

Report. 

Table. 


Ordered,  That  the  Return  relative  to  East 
East  India 
(Supersession  India  (Supersession  of  Officers),  which  was 
of  Officers.) 
presented  on  the  20th  day  of  this  instant 
N o.  2 8 2. 
September,  be  printed. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant 
Factory  and 
Workshop 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament, — 
Acts 
(Particulars  of  Copy  of  Order,  dated  14th  September  1909, 
Piece-work  made  by  the  Secretary  of  State 
the 
Wages.) 
Home  Department,  applying  the  provisions of 
Section  116 of  the  Factory  and  Workshop  Act, 
1901, with  modifications, to  the  manufacture  of 
Wearing  Apparel. 

for 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,— Copies of Diplomatic 
and Consular Reports, Annual  Series,  Nos. 4351 
and 4352. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  50  (Exemptions  and  abatements 
in  case  of  persons  not  resident  in  the  United 
Kingdom). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  33,  1. 1, to leave 

out  subsection (1).—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  put, That the words "  No exemption, 

abatement''  stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Remnant, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Evelyn  Cecil: 

198. 

80. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  33,  1.  1, 
to  leave out  the words  " or  relief."—(Mr.  Cave.) 
Question  proposed,  That  the words  proposed 

to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause 
Amendment,  by  leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  3 3 , 1 3, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "  person,"  in  order  to 
insert the word "  alien."—(Mr.  Carlile.) 

Question,  That the  word  "  person "  stand part 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

of  the  Clause, put, and agreed  to. 

Table. 

Colonial 
Statistics. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Statistical  Tables  relating 
to  British  Colonies,  Possessions,  and  Protecto­
rates.  Part  X X X I I .  ,  for the year  1907. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That  there  be laid before this  House 
Public 
a  Return of  the amounts of  all  Public  Revenue 
Revenue 
(Interception.)  derived  from  Taxes  levied  by  Parliament, and 
from any  other sources, which  are  not paid  into 
His  Majesty's  Exchequer, for the years  1907-8, 
1908-9, and 1909-10  (estimated),  with  the totals 
in  each  case  (in  continuation  of  Parliamentary 
Paper, No. 309 of  Session  1908).—(Mr. Bowles.) 

The  Prime  Minister  reported  from the  Com­
mittee  of  Privileges  ;  That  they  had considered 
the matters  to  them  referred, and  directed  him 
to make  a Report  thereof  to  the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

Privileges. 

No. 281. 

No. 281. 

Message from  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
the  Lords.  Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by 

one of their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

Trade Boards 
Bill. 

Assurance 
Companies 
Bill 

[Lords.] 

Crofting 
Parishes 
(Scotland) 
Bill 

[Lords.] 

The  Lords have agreed  to  the  Trade  Boards 
Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which  the  Lords 
desire the  concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An 
Act   to  consolidate  and  amend  and  extend 
to  other  Companies  carrying  on  Assurance  or 
Insurance  business  the  Law  relating  to  Life 
Assurance  Companies,  and  for  other  purposes 
connected therewith  ;  to  which  the Lords  desire 
the  concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An 
Act  to  amend  the  Acts  relating  to  Crofters' 
Holdings  in  Scotland ;  to  amend the  Congested 

VOL.  164.  


An  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 33,1.  15, 

to  leave out  subsection  (2).—(Mr. Ridsdale.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "  which,"  in  p.  33, 
1.  17,  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—Amendment, 
by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p, 33,  1. 20, 
to  leave  out  from  the  word  " Kingdom "  to the 
end of  subsection  (2).—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left out, to the  word  "  six,"  in p.  33,  1.  27, 
stand  part  of  the  Clause  :—Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton; 

TelWs  for thp  f S i  r

Alexander

Acland-

Noes 
' 

1  . H o o d> 
(Viscount  Valentia: 

244. 

)

[  95. 
J 

Clause  No.  51 

(Special  provisions  as  to  


Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  33,  1. 33,  at  the  

end, to  insert  the words "  Provided  that in any  

case in  which  an  appeal  is allowed  to  be made 

to the  Special  Commissioners against  any assess­
ment  of  super-tax,  or  against  any  objection  of  

the inspector  or  surveyor  to  such  assessment, or 

against  any  surcharge  of  the  said  tax, it  shall  

be  lawful for  the  person  assessed  or  charged,  if  

he  shall  think  fit,  instead  of  appealing  to  the  

Special  Commissioners,  to  appeal  to  the  Com­
missioners  for  General  Purposes of  the  district,  

upon  giving  notice  thereof  in  writing  to  the  

inspector  or  surveyor  within  the  time  limited  

for  notices  of  appeal  to  the  Special  Commis­
sioners,  and  thereupon  every  such  appeal  shall,  

be heard  and determined  by  two  or more of  the  

Commissioners  for  General  Purposes  who hear  

appeals  in  the  district  in  which  such  apnellant  

shall  be  chargeable."—(Mr.  Cave.)  


3  H 

Ordered, That  the  Minutes of the  Proceedings 

assessment of  super-tax).  


of the  Committee  be  printed. 



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450 

22nd—23rd September. 

1909. 

[No. 146. 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  I Mr.  Cave, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Renwick:  


Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

( Captain  Norton: 

|  77. 

j  217. 

An  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  33,1.  37, 
to  leave  out  the  words "  whether  he is or is not," 
in  order  to  insert  the  words  "  if  he  is."—(Sir 
Seymour King.) 

Question  put, That  the  words  proposed  to be 

left out stand  part of the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for  the  ( Sir  Seymour  King, 
(  Mr. Hicks Beach : 

Noes, 

)  207. 
j 
\  65. 
j 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 33,  1. 39, 
at  the end, to insert  the  words "  Provided  that 
no notice  shall  be served  under  this  subsection 
unless it  contains a statement  in  writing  under 
the  hand  of  the  said  Commissioners  detailing 
the  reasons  for  which  they  allege  that  the 
income  of  the  person  on  whom  such  notice  is 
served  exceeds five thousand  pounds, and  giving 
the  facts,  if  any,  upon  which  they  rely  in 
support  of  such  allegation."  —  (Mr.  Walter 
Guinness.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words be there 

inserted : 

Amendment  proposed  to the proposed  Amend­
ment,  in  1.  4,  to  leave  out  from  the  word 
"pounds"  to  the  end  thereof. —  (Mr.  James 
Hope.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to be left out  stand part of  the  proposed  Amend­
ment :—Amendment  to  the  proposed  Amend­
ment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 
Another  Amendment proposed, in p.  33,1. 40, 

to  leave  out subsection  (3).—(Mr.  Peel.) 

Question,  That the words  proposed  to  be  left 
out, to  the first word  " t o ,"  in p. 33,1.  41, stand 
part  of  the  Clause: — Amendment,  by  leave, 
withdrawn. 

Other  Amendments  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  34,1.  5, 
to  leave  out from the word  "  pounds "  to  the  end 
of p.  34,  1. 7.—(Mr.  Leverton  Harris.) 

Question proposed, That the words  "  and after 

judgment"  stand  part  of  the  Clause  ^ A m e n d­
ment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  34,1.  5, 
after the word  "  judgment,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  or  the  decision  on appeal  from  such judgment 
of  the  Court of  Appeal  or  the  House of  Lords, 
whichever  shall  be  last."—(Mr.  James Hope.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be  there 

inserted :—Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 34,1.  7, 
at  the  end, to  insert  the words  " Provided  that 
no  penalty  shall be  recoverable  hereunder unless 
fourteen  days' notice  in writing  of  intention  to 
take  proceedings  for  such  penalty  shall  first 
have  been given  to such  person  by  the  Solicitor 
for  Inland  Revenue,  and  no  return  shall  have 
been  made  before such  proceedings  are  actually 
commenced."—(Sir  Henry  Kimber.) 

Question proposed, That those words be  there 

inserted :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 34,1.  9,. 
at the end, to  insert  the  words  "  or  in  England 
in the  county  court  of  the  district in  which such 
person  resides,  provided  that where  proceedings 
are  taken  in  England  in the  High  Court,  and  a 
sum  not  exceeding  the  sum  of  one  hundred 
pounds is recovered  therein,  the  Crown shall not 
be entitled  to any more  costs  than a plaintiff  in 
an  ordinary  action  founded  on  contract,  and 
recovering  the  same  sum,  would  have  been 
entitled  to."—(Sir  Henry  Kimber.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be  there 

inserted:—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  34,  1. 11, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "  or  to  give  any  notice 
required  by  this section."—(Mr. Cave.) 

Question, That the words proposed  to  be  left 
out stand  part of  the Clause, put, and  negatived. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 34,1.  14, 
at  the  end, to  insert  the words  "  Provided  that 
every  assessment  made  under  this  subsection, 
and  every  notice  thereof,  shall  contain  a  state­
ment  in  writing  under  the  hand  of  the  said 
Commissioners  detailing  the  reasons  for  which 
they  allege  that  the  income  of  the  person 
assessed  is the sum mentioned  in the assessment, 
and  giving  the  facts,  if  any, upon  which  they 
rely in support of  such allegation."—(Mr.  Evelyn
Cecil.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the I Mr.  Evelyn  Cecil, 

^ 

Tellers  for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

I Mr. Leverton Harris  :  J 
"i 
j 

(Captain  Norton: 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  34,1.  14, 
at  the  end, to  insert  the  words "  Provided  that 
no  assessment  shall  be  made  hereunder  where 
proceedings  for a penalty  have  been  commenced 
under  subsection  (4)  hereof." —  (Mr.  Hicks 
Beach.) 

Question, That  those words  be there inserted, 

put, and  negatived. 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 34,  1. 20, 
after  the  word  "  section,"  to  insert  the  words 
"and  the  Special  Commissioners  shall,  for  the 
purpose  of  assessment,  have  any  powers  of  an 
inspector  or  surveyor  of  taxes,  and  for  the 
purpose  of  the  representation  of  the  Crown  on 
any appeal before the Special Commissioners, any 
person  nominated  in  that  behalf  by  the  Com­
missioners  of  Inland  Revenue  shall  have  the 
same  powers  at  and  upon  the determination  of 
the  appeal  as  a  surveyor  of  taxes  has  at  and 
upon  the  determination  of  any  appeal  under  the 
Income  Tax  Acts." — (Mr.  Chancellor   of  the 
Exchequer.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the (Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Captain  Norton  : 

\  91 
j 

Tellers for  faJS™  Alexander Acland- \ 

Noes 
' 

I  Hood, 
[Viscount  Valentia: 

J-  85. 
J 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 34,1.  20, 
at  the  end, to insert  the  words "  Provided  that 
any  person  charged  by  an  assessment  to  super­
tax  who  shall  think  himself  aggrieved  by  any 

No. 145.]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

21st—-22nd  September. 

4 51 

determination  of  an appeal  by the  Special  Com­
missioners  shall  he  entitled,  on  giving  notice 
in  writing  within  ten  days  from  such  deter­
mination,  to  have  the  appeal  reheard  both 
on  law and  fact  by  the  county  court  judge  or 
the  stipendiary  magistrate, if  any, of  the district 
in  which  such  person  shall  reside,  and  such 
judge  or  stipendiary  magistrate  shall  have  and 
exercise  all  the  powers  of  the  Special  Commis­
sioners  in  relation  to  the  assessment  appealed 
against,  and  the  determination  thereof, and  his 
decision  on  questions  of  fact  shall  be  final  and 
conclusive."—-(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Cave, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  George  Faber: 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Another  Amendment  made. 

89. 

208. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 34,1.  23, 
to  leave  out  the  words " or  within  three  years 
after  the  expiration  thereof."—(Mr,  Joynson-
Hicks.) 

Question,  That  the  words " or  within "  stand 

part of  the  Clause, put, and  agreed  to. 

Question  proposed,  That 
amended, stand part of  the  Bill: 

the  Clause,  as 

Wednesday, 22nd September  1909 : 


Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time  


this day. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking  London 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill  Elections  BilL 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee); 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs and 

Committee  on the  Customs  and Inland  Revenue  f,n!an<3 
T , . ,. 
Bill; 

Revenue  Bill. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Prisons  

Second  Reading  of  the  Prisons  (Scotland)  Bill  (Scotland)  

[Lords]  ; 

Bill  [Lord*.]  


Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Summary-
Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction  Jurisdiction 
(Scotland) Act, 1908, Amendment  Bill  [Lords]  ; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

icct^8, 

this day. 

BlU   l L o r d*l 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Child  Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

this day. 

Question  put.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the J" Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

o 
m  ii 
Tellers  for the) 
Noes, 

(Captain  Norton : 
(Sir  Alexander Acland• 

H o o d> 

[Viscount  Valentia: 

199. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort- Councils 
Mortgages 
"  "*"" 
gages Bill; 
Bill. 

82. 

1 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this  day. 

Clause  No.  52  (Stamp  duty  on  conveyances 

or  transfers on  sale), 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  34,  1.  31,  after 
the  word  "  shall," to  insert  the  words "  except 
in  the  case  of 
land  which  has  previously 
passed  under  the  operation  of  any  of  the 
Land  Purchase  (Ireland)  A c t s . " — ( M r.  John 
O'Connor.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr. Patrick  O'Brien, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Hazleton  :  


Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

( Captain  Norton : 

65. 

143. 

Motion  made,  and  Question,  That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr. Renwick),—put,  and agreed  to. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair; 
and the  Chairman  of  Ways and  Means reported, 
That the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the 
Bill;  and  that  he was  directed  to  move,  That 
the  Committee  may have leave  to  sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve  itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Police Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Committee  on the  Police  Bill; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Wednes­
day  the  29th  day  of  this  instant  September, 
resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

Expiring  Laws

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Continuance

  Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con­

tinuance  Bill; 
VOL.  164. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Coal  Mines  

Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation  Beguiation  

Bill; 

BlU-


*  

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship  Worship _ 
(Enfranchisement)  (No.  2)  Bill; 

^entHNoI 2) 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time  Bil1, 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order of  the day  being  read,  for  taking  Bishopric  o 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield  Sheffield  Bill. 
Bill,  as amended in the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trustees' 
Third  Reading  of the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill;   Accounts  Bill 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  the third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Parliamentary 
Second  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  SeatsSeats  (Peers of 
ScotIand)  B m-
(Peers  of  Scotland)  Bill;  

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Onion  Officers 
Second Reading of the  Union  Officers (Ireland)  (Ireland)  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this  day. 

3  M  2 

452 

21 st—22nd  September. 

1909. 

[No. 148. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane presented,—Return  to War 

Dublin  Police 
BUI. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Report. 

Police 
(Metropolis.) 

Second  Reading  of  the Dublin  Police  Bill  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

Whereupon  Mr. Deputy  Speaker  adjourned 
the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant to  tbe  Order  of  the  House  of  the 
20t,h day of  August  last,  it  being  then 
twenty-eight  minutes  before  Two  of  the 
clock  on  Wednesday  morning,  till  this 
day. 

[No.  146.] 

Wednesday, 22nd September  1909. 

The  House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

SE V E R A  L  Public  Petitions  were  presented, 

and  read  ;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the 
Commissioner  of  Police  for  the  Metropolis  for 
the year  1908. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
Treaty  Series
(No. 22, 1909.)  H i  s  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Accession 
of  Mexico  and  Sweden  to  the  International 
Agreement  of  9th  December  1907,  respecting 
the  creation of  an International  Office  of  Public 
Health. 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Arbitration 
(Treaties) 
(Miscel­
laneous, 
No.  9,1909.) 

Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, 

Annual  Series,  Nos. 4354  to  4357. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  also  presented, 
by  His  Majesty's  Command,  pursuant  to  the 
Address  to  His  Majesty  of  the  14th  day  of  this 
instant  September,—Copy  of  Return  showing 
all  General  Treaties  of  Arbitration  between 
the  United  Kingdom  and other  States. 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Queen's 
College. 
Galway. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Annual  Report  of  the 
President  of  Queen's  College,  Galway, for  the 
year  1908-9. 

Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
Local 
Registration 
directions  of  an  Act   of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
of  Title 
(Ireland)  Acts, Rule  made  under  the  Local  Registration  of 
1891 and 1908. Title  (Ireland)  Act,  1891,  extending  the  juris­
diction  of  the County  Court  to  all  cases  arising 
under  the  Local  Registration  of  Title  (Ireland) 
Amendment  Act,  1908. 

Ordered, That the  said Papers  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Super annua- 
tion  Act,  1909.  c o m r n a n d , — C o py   of  Regulations  made  by  the 
Treasury  under  Section  3 of  the  Superannuation 
Act,  1909. 

an  Address  to  His  Majesty,  dated  the  17th day  Department 
of  this instant  September,  for  a  Return  relative Land8)0* 
to  War  Department  (Sales  of  Land).

283 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Return  do  lie  upon 

the  Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Colonel  Williams reported from the Committee  Public  

of Public Accounts  :  That they had made further  Accounts  

Progress  in  the  matters  to  them  referred,  and  

directed  him  to  make  a  Report  thereof  to  the 
House,  together  with  the  Minutes  of  Evidence  

taken  before  them, and  an  Appendix. 


ei>° 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  No. 284. 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by  the Lords, 
one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth: 

The  Lords  have agreed to the Irvine  Harbour  Irvine  

Order  Confirmation  Bill,  without  any Amend-  Harbour  

ment.

. 

Ord<?

Confirmation 
Bill. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An  Hamilton 
Act  to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Burgh  Order 
Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act, 
1899, relating  to  Hamilton  Burgh  ;  to  which the 
Lords  desire  the concurrence  of  this  House. 

" 

The  Hamilton Burgh  Order  Confirmation  Bill  Hamilton 
[.Lords]  was  ordered  (under  Section  7  of  the  Burgh  Order 
Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  g f f i S S  K 
1899)  to  be taken  into  consideration  to-morrow. 

The  House, according to Order, resolved  itself  Finance  Bill, 

into  a Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  52  (Stamp  duty  on  conveyances 

or transfers  on  sale). 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 34,  1. 31, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "  double,"  in  order  to 
insert  the words "  one-half of."—(Mr.  Hills,) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  double  " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause:—Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in p. 34,  1. 32, 
after  the  word  "  Schedule,"  to insert the  words 
"  except  in cases  where  the  amount  or  value  of 
the  consideration  for  the  sale  does  not  exceed 
five  hundred  pounds."—(Mr. Maddison.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  : 

Amendment  proposed to the  proposed  Amend­
ment,  in  1.  3,  to  leave  out  the  words  "  five 
hundred,"  in  order  to  insert  the  words  "  one 
thousand."—(Mr.  Maurice  Healy.) 

Question  put, That the  words "  five  hundred  " 

stand part of the  proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Captain  Norton : 


1189. 

Tellers for the f Mr.  Maurice  Healy,  


I 

Noes, 

(Sir  William  Bull:  

Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn.  

Question  put, That  the  Clause  stand  part  of  


67. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do  lie upon the 

the  Bill. 

Table. 

Colonial 
Reports 
(Annual.) 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Colonial  Report  No.  612 
(Turks  and  Caicos  Islands, Annual  Report  for 
1908) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the) Mr. Joseph Pease. 
( Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

205. 

Tellers for  the f Mr.  Hills, 

\ 
I Mr.  Leverton  Harris :  J 

Noes, 

„„

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Clause  No.  53  (Stamp  duty  on  gifts  inter 

Table. 

vivos). 

 
 


 
146 ]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

22nd September. 	

4 53 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 34,1.  35, to  leave 

out the  words "  operating  as a voluntary disposi­
tion," in order  to  insert  the  words  "  purporting 
to  operate  as an immediate  gift."—(Mr.  Hills.) 

Question  put, That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left out stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
ICaptain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for the (Mr.  Hills, 

\ g^g 
J 
\ 
J 

„„ 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Courthope: 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 34,  1. 36, 

after the word  "  vivos," to  insert the words " not 
being  a  conveyance  effecting  a  resettlement  of 
real  estate."—(Mr.  Radford.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the j  Mr.  Hunt, 

Yeas, 

I Sir  William Bull: 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

1  Captain  Norton: 

)  gg
)
1 
J 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 34,  1. 36, 
after the  word  "  vivos,"  to insert the  words " not 
being  a disentailing  assurance  or an appointment 
under  a  special  power  of  appointment."—(Mr. 
Cave.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words be  there 

inserted:—Amendment,  by  leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 34,  1. 36, 
after  the word  "  vivos,"  to insert the words "  not 
being  a  conveyance  or  transfer  for  a charitable 
or  other public purpose."—(Mr.  Cave.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

59. 

1 
j 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Cave, 

Yeas, 

t  Sir  William  Bull: 
Tellers for the  [ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

1 Captain  Norton: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 34,1.  39, 
at  the  end, to  insert  the  words "  Provided  that 
where  any  conveyance  or  transfer  has  been 
charged  with duty  under  this section, and where 
the  donor  or  transferor  dies  within  such  period 
that  the  property  so conveyed  or  transferred  is 
included  as  property  passing  on  the death of the 
deceased,  the  sum  paid  as  stamp  duty  shall  be 
deducted  from  the  estate  duty,  if  any,  levied 
in  respect  of  such  property."  — (Sir  Frederick 
Banbury.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

Yeas, 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Sir Frederick Banbury, 1 
j 
)  . 
J 

(  Sir  William Bull: 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

( Captain  Norton: 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  35,1.  30, 
to  leave  out  the words  "  been  made  with a view 
of conferring,"  in order to  insert the word  "  con­
ferred."—(Sir  Frederick Banbury.) 

Noes, 

bU 

Question  proposed,  That the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause  :— 
Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  35,1.  36, 
after the word  " transferred," to insert  the words 
"  or  a  disentailing  assurance  by  which  no  new 
estates are  created  or  limited,"—(Mr.  Solicitor 
General.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words  be  there 

inserted :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

A n  Amendment  made.  


VOL.  164.  


Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended,  


stand  part of the  Bill.  


The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

l  ,

j 
Tellers  for the j  Sir Frederick Banbury,  ) 
j 

1 Sir  William Bull: 

( Captain  Norton: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

. 

'' 

Clause  No.  54  (Amendment  of  s.  12  of  the  


Stamp  Act,  1891). ­

Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 35,  1. 40, to  leave  


out the words  "  only  so far."—(Mr.  Hills.)  


Question  proposed,  That  the  words "  only  so  

far"  stand  part  of  the  Clause:—Amendment,  

by  leave,  withdrawn.  


Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill.  


The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the) Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

(.Captain  Norton : 


189. 

Tellers for  thef Mr.  Hills, 

\ 
(Mr.  Watson Rutherford:  J 

Noes, 

' 

Clause  No.  55  (Stamp  duty  on leases). 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  thef Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the (Viscount  Castlereagh, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Hills : 

48' 
Motion  made, and  Question,  That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer),— 
put, and agreed  to. 

)
J 
i 
j  

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may  have leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again  resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

The  House, according to Order, resolved  itself ways  and 

into the  Committee  of  Ways  and Means. 

Means. 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Mineral  Rights  Duty. 

1.  Motion  made, and  Question  proposed,  That 
there  shall  be  charged  for  the current year  and 
every  subsequent  financial  year,  on  the  rental 
value of  all  rights  to  work  minerals and  of  all 
mineral wayleaves,  a  duty  at  the  rate  in  each 
case  of  one shilling  for  every  twenty  shillings  of 
that rental  value: 

The  rental  value to  be taken to  be— 

(a)  Where	  the right  to  work  the  minerals 
is  the  subject  of  a  mining  lease,  the 
amount  of  rent  paid  by  the  working 
lessee  in  the  last working year  in respect 
of  that right;  and 

(b)  Where	   minerals  are  being  worked  by 
the proprietor  thereof,  the  amount which 
is  determined  by  the  Commissioners  of 
Inland  Revenue  to  be  the  sum  which 
would  have  been  received  as the rent  by 
the  proprietor  in the  last working  year  if 
the  right  to work  the minerals  had  been 
let, and the minerals  had  been worked  to 
the same extent  and  in  the  same manner 
as  they  have  been  worked  by  the  pro­
prietor  in that year ;  and 

(c)  In	  the case of  a  mineral  wayleave, the 
amount  of  rent  paid  by  the  working 
lessee  in the  last  working  year  in respect 
of  the  wayleave. 

—(Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer):—Debate 
arising; 

3	  M  3 

















454 

22nd—23rd  September.  	

1909. 

[No. 146. 

Thursday,  23rd  September  1909 : 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his  	
place  and  claimed  to  move, That  the  Question 
be  now put, 

The House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself Finance 

into  a  Committee  on  Finance 
Fund]. 

[Consolidated  [Consolidated 

Fund.] 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put, That the Question  be now put.  Division  of  Local  Taxation  Licence  Duties 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

between  Local  Authorities  and  Exchequer. 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

T  11 rs for  t h e f ^  r  Alexander Acland-

6  Noes1" 
iNoes, 

H o o d  > 

) 
[Viscount Valentin-. 

Question  put  accordingly. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  thefMr.  Joseph  Pease, 

w  ii 
Tellers  for the I  H o o d> 

j"i  ("Sir  Alexander Acland* 

iCaptain  Norton : 

YeaA, 
n 

Noes, 	

[Viscount  Valentia  : 

Resolved, That  there  shall  be  charged  for the 
current  and  every  subsequent financial year, on 
the  rental  value  of  all  rights  to  work  minerals 
and of  all  mineral  wayleaves,  a' duty  at the  rate 
in  each  case  of  one  shilling  for  every  twenty 
shillings of  that rental  value : 

The  rental  value  to  be taken  to  be— 

53. 

]  128.  Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That, 
for  the  purpose  of  payments 
into  any  local  

taxation  account,  the  proceeds  of  any  duties  

on  any  local  taxation  licences  (including  duties  

for  motor  cars)  which  are  altered  by  any  Act  

passed  in the  present  Session  shall be deemed  to  

be the  proceeds  of  the duties in  the year  ending  

the  thirty-first  day of  March  nineteen  hundred 
127.  and  nine—(Mr.  Attorney  General):— Motion, 

52. 

by leave,  withdrawn. 

1.  Resolved,  That 

Levying  of  Motor  Car  Duties  in  Ireland. 
it 

is  expedient  that  in 
Ireland  any  duties  for  motor  cars  imposed  by 
any  Act  of  the present  Session  be  levied  by 
county  councils (including  the councils of  county 
boroughs)  and  paid  into  the  Exchequer,  and 
that  an annual  sum  be  paid  out of  the  Consoli­
dated  Fund  to  county  councils  in  Ireland  in  

connection  therewith.—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  


(a)  Where	  the right  to work  the  minerals  Exchequer.) 


is  the  subject  of  a  mining 
amount  of  rent  paid  by  the  working 
lessee in the  last working  year  in  respect 
of that right;  and  	

lease,  the  


Payments  out of  Consolidated  Fund  

towards  Development  of  Roads.  


2.  Resolved, That  there  shall  be  charged  on 
(b)  Where	   minerals  are  being  worked  by  the  Consolidated  Fund  in  every financial year, 

the proprietor  thereof,  the amount  which  and  paid  into  a separate  account  to  be  appro-

is  determined  by  the  Commissioners  of  priated towards  the development  of roads,  a  sum  

Inland  Revenue  to  be  the  sum  which  equal  to  the  net  proceeds  in each year  of  any  

would  have  been received  as the rent  by  duties  on  motor  spirit  imposed  by  any Act  of  

the  proprietor  in the last working  year if  the  present  Session,  and  the  net  proceeds  in  

the right  to work  the minerals  had  been  each  year  of  the  duties  on  licences  for  motor  

let, and the minerals had  been  worked  to  cars  which  are  affected  by  any  such  Act,  and  

the same extent  and  in  the same manner  the net  proceeds  of  the  duties shall  be taken  to  

be  the  gross  proceeds  of  the  duties, subject  to 
as  they  have  been  worked  by  the  pro-
deductions  for  cost  of  collection,	  and  for  any 
prietor in  that year ;  and 
payments  into  any  local  taxation  account  or  to 
any  county  council  (including  the	  council  of  a 
county  borough)  in  respect  of  the  proceeds  of 
the duties  or any  deficiency  of  those  proceeds.— 
(Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer.)  


(c)   In  the  case  of  a  mineral  wayleave, the 
amount  of  rent  paid  by  the  working 
lessee in the last  working  year-in  respect 
of  the  wayleave. 

Increment  Value  Duty  on  Minerals.  


Resolutions  to be  reported. 

Additional  Payments  to  Local  Authorities  

on  account  of  Land  Value  Duties.  


2.  Motion  made, and  Question  put, That  any  

duty  charged  on the increment  value of  minerals 
which  are  comprised  in  a  mining  lease  or  are 
being  worked  shall be charged  annually, and the  
 Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
increment  value shall be taken  to  be the sum  by  there  shall  be  charged  on  the	  Consolidated 
which  in  each  year  the  rental  value  of  „the  Fund  in  each  year  a  sum  equal  to  half  the 
minerals  exceeds  the  annual  equivalent  of  the  proceeds of  the duties  levied  in  respect of  land 
original  capital  value  of  the  minerals,  or  the  values  (including  mineral  rights  duties)  under 
capital value of the minerals on the last preceding  any  Act  of  the  present  Session,  and  that  sum 
occasion on which  increment value duty  has been  shall  be divided  between  England,  Scotland,  and 
collected.—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.)  Ireland 
into  such  

separate  accounts  for  the  benefit  of  such  local  

authorities  as Parliament  may determine.— (Mr. 


The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

in  such  manner  and  paid 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 	

Tellers for the j  Viscount Valentia, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Henry  Forster : 

Estate  Duty  Deductions. 

}  1 2 0 '  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.)  

|  44. 

Motion  made, and  Question,  That  the  Chair-

man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit  

again—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer),—  

put, and  agreed  to. 

3.  Resolved, That  it  is expedient  to  limit  the  

debts and  encumbrances  which  may be  deducted  

from  the value of  an  estate  in  determining  the 
value  of  the  estate  for  the  purposes  of  estate 
duty.—(Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer.)  


Resolutions  to be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 

Deputy  Chairman  reported,  That  the  Com­
mittee  had come to  several  Resolutions. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this  


day. 


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 

The  Deputy  Chairman  also  acquainted  the  

Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That  House  that  the  Committee  had  made  Progress  

the  Committee  had come to  several  Resolutions. 
in  the  matter  to  them  referred;  and  that  he  

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this  was directed  to  move, That  the  Committee  may  


day. 

have  leave  to  sit again.  




NOIL46.]  9  E D W.  Y I I.  

22nd—23rd September. 


Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again  resolve itself into  the  said  Committee. 

Adjournment. 

Resolved, That  this  House  do  now  adjourn.— 

(Mr. Joseph  Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  twenty-one  minutes 
before  Three  of  the  clock  on  Thursday 
morning,  adjourned  till this  day. 

[No.  147.] 
Thursday, 2'drd September 1909. 
The  House  met at a quarter  of  an  hour 
before  Three  of the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

Hamilton  THE  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded 

to  take  into  consideration  the  Hamilton 

[Lords.]  Burgh  Order  Confirmation  Bill  [.Lords]. 

Burgh  Order 
•Confirmation 
Bill 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read the  third time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Several  Public  Petitions were  presented, and 

read;  and ordered  to lie  upon  the  Table. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command, —Copy  of  Colonial  Report  No.  613 
(Gold  Coast, Annual  Report  for  1908). 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,  —  Copy  of  Statistics  of  Public 
Education  in  England  and  Wales.  Part  I. 
Educational  Statistics,  1907-8. 

Copy  of  Memorandum  of  Arrangements 
between  the Board  of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries 
and the  Board  of  Education  in regard to  Agri­
cultural  Education  in  England  and  Wales. 

Copy  of  Report  of  the  Interdepartmental 
Committee  on  Partial  Exemption  from  School 
Attendance.  Volume  II.  Minutes  of  Evi­
dence, Appendices,  and  Index. 

Ordered, That  the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 
Beport. 

Colonial 
Beports 
(Annual.) 

Board of 
Education. 

Board of 
Education. 

Partial 
Exemption 
from  School 
Attendance 
(Inter-
departmental 
Committee.) 

Treaty  Series 
(No.  23,1909.)  j j i s  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Denuncia­

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 

tion  of  the Agreement  of  19th  November  1907, 
between  the  United  Kingdom  and  the  United 
States  of  America,  respecting  (1)  Commercial 
Travellers'  Samples  entering  the  United  King­
dom ;  (2)  Import  Duties  on  British  Works  of 
Art  entering the  United  States. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

United 
Kingdom 

Ordered, That  there be laid before  this  House 
a  Return  for  the  United  Kingdom, for each  of 
Commerce, 
the  vears  1831,  1841,  1851,  1861,  1871,  1881, 
and  Condition  1891,  1901,  1906,  1907,  and  1908,  showing  the 
following  particulars  so  far  as  available  :— 
of  People.) 
(1)  population  (millions);  (2)  death  rate  per 
thousand;  (3)  birth  rate  per  thousand;  (4) 
paupers,  total  average  number,  indoor  and 
outdoor ;  (5)  number  of  paupers  per  10,000 of 
the epopulation;  (6)  total  cost  of  poor  relief; 
(7)  net  passenger  movement  outwards to  places 
out  of  Europe ;  (8)  average  Gazette  price  per 
quarter  of  wheat, barley,  and  oats ;  (9)  average 
price of  beef  at the  Metropolitan Cattle Market; 
(10)  total  value  of  the  imports  of  grain,  corn, 
and  flour;  (11)  total  value  of  the  imports  of 
meat,  alive  and  dead  ;  (12)  total  value  of  the 
imports of  food  and drink (exclusive of tobacco)  ; 

VOL. 164. 

tobacco) 

(exclusive  of 

(13)  total  value  of  the  imports  of  food  and 
drink 
from  British 
Colonies  and  Possessions;  (14)  total  value  of 
the  imports  of  food  and  drink  (exclusive  of 
tobacco)  per  head  of  population;  (15)  total 
quantity  of  home-grown  and  imported  wheat 
and wheat-flour retained  for  home consumption  ; 
(16)  consumption  of  wheat  and  wheat-flour  per 
head of population  ;  (17)  value  of fish of  British 
taking  landed  on the coasts of  the  United  King­
dom ;  (18)  net  imports of  merchandise  (deduct­
ing  re-exports), total  value  and  value  per head 
of  population  ;  (19)  exports  of  the produce  and 
manufactures  of  the  United  Kingdom,  total 
value  and  value  per  head  of  population;  (20) 
imports  of  bullion  and  specie;  (21)  exports  of 
bullion  and  specie;  (22) Income  Tax,  yield  of 
each  penny;  (23)  gross  income  brought  under 
Income  Tax;  (24)  amount  standing  t,<T credit of 
depositors  in  Post  Office  and  Trustee  Savings 
Banks;  (25)  consumption  of  pig-iron  per  head 
of  population  ;  (26) total  registered  tonnage  of 
British  shipping;  (27)  tonnage of  British  ship­
ping  entered and cleared  in the  Foreign  trade at 
ports in  the  United  Kingdom;  (28)  tonnage  of 
Foreign  shipping  entered  and  cleared  in  the 
Foreign  trade  at  ports  in the  United  Kingdom  ; 
and (29)  total  clearings  at the  London  Bankers' 
Clearing  House  (in  continuation  of  Parlia­
mentary  Paper,  No.  294  of  Session  1907).— 
(Mr.  Essex.) 

Mr.  Toulmin reported  from  the  Select  Com- publications 
mittee  on  Publications  and  Debates  Reports ; and  Debate* 
That  they  had  considered  the  matters  to  them  Reports' 
referred,  and  directed  him  to  make  a  Report 
thereof  to the  House, together with  the  Minutes 
of  the Evidence  taken  before them. 

Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  No. 285. 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had been  brought  from  the  Lords  by  the  Lords, 
one of their  Clerks,  as followeth  : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Rule  Com- Rule 

mittee  Bill, without  any  Amendment. 

Committee 
Bill. 


The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Marine  In-  Marine  

surance  (Gambling  Policies)  Bill,  without  any  Insurance 
(Gambling 
A m f l n H m mt 
Policies)  BUI, 
A m e n d m e n t. 

The  House, according to  Order, resolved itself  Finance  Bill, 

into a Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  56  (Stamp  duty  on  marketable 

securities). 

Amendment  proposed,  in p.  36,  1. 8, to  leave 

out  the word  "  Government."—(Mr.  Hunt.) 

Question  put, That  the  word  "  Government" 

stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  I Mr. Joseph Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton : 


Yeas, 

Tellers for  the  ( Major Coates, 


Noes, 

\ Sir  William  Bull: 

20C. 

69. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 36,1.  8, 
after  the  word  "  securities,"  to insert the  words 
" or  Indian  securities."—(Mr.  Rees.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 36,  1. 14, 

at  the  end,  to  add  the  words  " T he  above  in­
creased  duties  only to  apply  to  securities issued 
after the first day of  November  nineteen  hundred 
and nine."—(Mr.  Bertram  Straus.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be  there 

added:—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

3  M  4 

456 

23rd—24th  September. 

1909. 

[No. 147. 

Question  proposed,  That  the words  proposed 
to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "under,"  in  1.  11, 
stand  part of the  Clause :—Debate  arising; 

)  gjg 
j 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose in his 
place  and  claimed  to  move, That  the  Question 
be now  put. 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause  stand  part  of 

the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Jose-ph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 
Tellers for  the  ( Sir  William  Bull, 

84. 

Noes, 

( Major  Coatesi 
Clause  No.  57  (Alteration  and  extension  of 

duty  on contract  notes). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 36,1.  20, to leave 
out the words "  five  hundred  pounds,"  in  order 
to  insert  the  words  "  one  thousand  pounds."— 
(Sir  Frederick Banbury.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  "five 
hundred  pounds "  stand  part  of  the  Clause :— 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Amendments  made. 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of  the Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

1 Sir  Edward Strachey :  j 
Tellers for  the  ( Sir Frederick Banbury, ) 
j 

I Sir  William Bull  : 

Noes. 

)  207. 

Clause  No.  58  (Obligation  to execute  contract 

note). 

Amendment proposed,  in p.  37,1.  12,  to  leave 
out from  the word  "  agent " to the word  "  shall," 
in  1. 15.—(Mr. Ridsdaie.) 

Question  proposed,  That the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:— 
Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 37,1.  19, 
to  leave  out  the  word  "  of," in  order  to  insert 
the words "  not  exceeding."—(Mr.  Renwick.) 

Question,  That  the word  " of "  stand  part  of 

the  Clause, put, and agreed  to. 

An  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 37,  1. 22, 
to leave  out  the  word  "  of,"  in  order  to  insert 
the words "  not exceeding."—(Mr.  Renwick.) 

Question  put,  That  the word "  of  "  stand  part 

of the  Clause. 

Yeas, 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

)
{ Sir  Edward Strachey :  ) 
)

Tellers for the j  Mr.  Renwick, 

Noes, 

57' 
° Another  A mendment  proposed, in p.  37,1.  29, 

\  Colonel  Hall  Walker :  ( 

to  leave  out  the words "  appropriated  to  a con­
tract  note."—(Major  Coates.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:— 
Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 
Another  Amendment  made. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  59  (Extension  of  provisions  as  to 

contract  notes to  sale or purchase  of  options). 

Amendments  made. 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

\ . 

Tellers  for the (Mr.  Joynson-Hicks, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

\ Sir  Edward Strachey :  ' 
1 
J 

I Sir  William  Bull: 

5b' 

Clause  No.  60 (Duty  on  tea). 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  38,  1.  10,  to  leave 
out  from  the  word  "  tea "  to  the  word  "  until," 
in  1.  13.—(Mr.  Gwynn.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Question be  now  put.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Yeas, 

\ Sir  Edward  Strachey :  J 
Sir Alexander Acland- \

Tellers for the J  Hood, 

Noes, 

{

189. 

j>  91. 

Viscount  Valentia: 

j

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words 
proposed to be left  out,  to the word  "  under,"  in 
1. 11,  stand  part of the  Clause. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thefMr.  Joseph Pease, 

\ 170 

Yeas, 

I Sir Edioard Strachey :  I 

Tellers for thefMr.  Patrick  O'Brien, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Boland: 

\ j jy 
J 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 38,1.  16, 
at the  end, to add  the  words  "  except  in case  of 
tea grown  in  part  of  the  British  Empire, which 
shall  pay  a tax  of  four pence."—(Mr.  Fell.) 

Question  put,  That  those,  words  be  there 

added. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the) Mr.  Fell,  


Yeas, 

I Mr.  Goulding : 

} 85. 

Tellers for  the) Mr. Joseph Pease, 

X on« 
I Sir  Edward Strachey :  J  "  ' 

Noes, 

Clause agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  61  (Additional  Customs  and 

Excise  duties on  spirits). 

Amendment  proposed,  in p. 38,  I. 22, to  leave 

out subsection  (2).—(Sir  William Bull.) 

Question  put,  That the  words proposed  to  be 

left  out  stand part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for theJ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

^159 

Tellers for  the/Sir  William Bull, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

\Sir  Edward Strachey :  /
\ 
J 

(Mr.  Felix 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 38,1.  31, 
to  leave  out the words  "  three shillings  and nine 
insert  the  words  "one 
in  order  to 
pence," 
shilling."—(Sir  William Bull.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to be left out stand part  of  the Clause  :—Debate 
arising ; 

Friday,  24th September  1909 : 
Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question 
be  now put. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question  be now  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thefMr.  Joseph Pease, 

| 
(Sir  Edward Strachey :  J 
| 
/

Tellers for the (Viscount  Valentia, 
(Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

112. 

95. 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be left out stand  part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

( 1 10 

Yeas, 

|  Sir  Edward  Strachey:  j

) 
J 

Tellers  for  the  ( Sir  William Bull, 

„.


Noes, 

| Mr.  Younger: 
Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 
Chairman  do  report  Progress, and  ask  leave  to 
sit again.—(Mr.  Mooney.) 





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21st—-22ndSeptember. 

457 

the  benefit  of  such  local  authorities  as  Parlia­
ment  may  determine—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer):—Motion,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

9 7. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the f Mr. Patrick  O'Brien, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

iMr .Boland: 

\ 
I 
\ 
I Sir Edward  Strachey :  J 

110. 

Tellers for the /Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 38,1.  33, 
at  the end, to  add  the words  "  Provided  that, if 
the  spirits  be  of  an  age  of  not  less  than  five 
years,  the  duty  shall  be  two  shillings  per  proof 
gallon,  and  if  the  spirit  be  under  five  but  over 
three  years  of  age,  the  duty  shall  be  two 
shillings  and  nine  pence  per  proof  gallon,  the 
age  of  spirits  that have  been  blended  or  vatted 
being  taken to  be the age  of  the youngest  spirit 
in the  blend  or vat."—(Sir  John  Dewar.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

added. 

The  Committee, divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Renwick, 

Yeas, 

IMr.  Fell-. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

| Sir Edward  Strachey : 

1  7 0. 
Jj

1116. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause  stand 

part of  the Bill  :—Debate  arising : 

Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question 
be  now put. 

Question put,  That the  Question  be  now put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the ("Mr. Joseph Pease, 

118. 

Yeas, 

(Sir  Edward Strachey : 
TSir Alexander Acland-

Tellers  for  theP 
^ 
Noes, 
(Viscount  Valentia ; 

Hood, 

>  8 4. 
j 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause 

stand part of  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Sir Edward  Strachey  : 

Tellers for  thef^' r

^exander

Hood, 

Aclund-

Noes, 

(Viscount  Va.lentia: 

1 1 7. 

8 4. 

To report  Progress, and ask leave  to sit again. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Division  of  Local  Taxation  Licence  Duties 
between  Local  Authorities  and  Exchequer. 
1.  Resolved, That, for the purpose  of payments 
into  any local  taxation  account, the  proceeds  of 
any  duties  on  any 
licences 
(including  duties  for  motor  cars)  which  are 
altered by  any Act  passed in the present  Session 
shall be  deemed  to  be the proceeds of  the duties 
in  the  year  ending  the thirty-first day  of  March 
nineteen  hundred  and  nine.—(Mr.  Chancellor 
of  the  Exchequer.) 

taxation 

local 

in  England  and  Wales  and 

2.  Resolved, That  any  duties  for  motor  cars 
imposed  by  any  Act  of  the  present  Session  be 
levied by  county councils in England  and  Wales, 
and  be  duties  to  which  section  six  of  the 
Finance  Act,  1908, applies, and that the  amount 
of  the  duties  so  levied  be  divided  between 
county councils  (including  the councils of  county 
boroughs) 
Exchequer  so  as  to  provide  for  the  payment 
to  each  such county  council of  an amount equal 
to  the  proceeds  of  the  duties  leyied  by  that 
council  during  the year  ending  the  thirty-first 
day  of  March  nineteen  hundred  and  nine  in 
respect  of  motor  cars  on which  the  new  duties 
are imposed, and for  the payment  of  the balance 
into the  Exchequer,  and  that if  in  any year  the 
amount of  the duties  so  levied  is  not  sufficient 
to pay  to  each  such  county  council  the  amount 
required  to  be  paid  the  deficiency  shall  be 
charged  on  the  Consolidated  Fund.  —  (Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

the" 

3.  Resolved, That  all  payments  made  in  pur­
suance  of  conditions  attached  to  new  licences 
under  section  four  of  the  Licensing  Act,  1904, 
into  the  Exchequer.  <—•  (Mr. 
shall  be  paid 
Chancellor of  the  Exchequer.) 
Resolutions  to be  reported. 
To  report  Progress, and  ask leave to sit  again. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, That 
the  Committee  had come  to several  Resolutions. 
Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

The  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  also 
acquainted  the  House  that  he  was  directed  to 
move,  That  the  Committee  may  have  leave  to 
sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

Finance 
[Consolidated 
Fund.] 

The  Order of the day being  read, for  receiving 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  on  Finance 
[Consolidated  Fund]  of  the  22nd  day  of  this 
instant  September  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

The  Order of  the day being  read, for receiving  Ways  and 
the  Report  from  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means  [22nd 
Means of the 22nd day of  this instant September;  B e p ^ ^  ' 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  this 

day. 

Finance 
[Consolidated 
Fund.] 

The House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself 
into  a  Committee  on  Finance  [Consolidated 
Fund]. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Additional  Payments  to  Local  Authorities 
on account of  Land  Value  Duties. 
Question  again  proposed,  That  there  shall be 
charged  on  the  Consolidated  Fund  in each  year 
a  sum  equal  to  half  the  proceeds of  the duties 
levied 
land  values  (including 
mineral  rights  duties)  under  any  Act  of  the 
present  Session, and  that  sum  shall  be  divided 
between  England,  Scotland, and Ireland  in such 
manner  and paid into  such  separate  accounts  for 

in  respect  of 

V O L . 1 6 4. 

Resolved, That  this  House  do  now  adjourn.—  Adjournment. 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  thirteen  minutes  before  

Five  of  the  clock  on  Friday  morning, 
adjourned  till  this  day.  


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24th September, 

1909. 

[No. 148. 

[No. 148.] 
Friday24th  September  1909. 
The  House  met  at Twelve  of the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Tide  Fifth  

Report. 

SE V E R A  L  Public  Petitions  were  presented,

and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the

Table. 


Mr.  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
Endowed 
Schools  Acts.  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Scheme made  under  the  Endowed  Schools  Act,
1869, and amending  Acts  for  the  amendment  of 
the  Scheme  regulating  the  Glamorgan  Inter­
mediate  and  Technical  Education  Fund, in  the 
County  of  Glamorgan. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant 

Irish 
to  the 
Housing  Fund, directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Treasury  Minute,  dated  22nd  September  1909,
directing that the Accounts of  the Irish  Housing
Fund,  established by  Section  5  of  the  Housing
Of the  Working  Classes (Ireland) Act,  1908, be 
examined  and  audited  by  the  Comptroller  and 
Auditor  General. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Finance 
Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported 
[Consolidated   f r o  m  the  Committee  on  Finance  [Consolidated 
Fund] of  the  22nd  day  of  this  instant  Septem­
un 
ber  several  Resolutions;  which  were  read,  as 
follow : 

Levying  of 
Motor  Car 
Duties in 
Ireland. 

Payments  out 
of  Consoli­
dated  Fund 
towards 
Development 
of  Roads. 

Levying  of  Motor  Car  Duties  in  Ireland. 
1.  That  it  is  expedient  that  in  Ireland  any
duties for  motor cars imposed by  any  Act  of  the 
present  Session  be  levied  by  county  councils
(including  the councils  of  county  boroughs)  and 
paid  into  the  Exchequer,  and  that  an  annual 
sum  be  paid  out  of  the  Consolidated  Fund  to 
county  councils  in  Ireland  in  connection  there­
with. 

Payments out of  Consolidated  Fund towards 
Development  of  Roads. 
2.  Thai  there  shall  be  charged  on  the  Con-
solidated  Fund  in  every financial year, and  paid
into  a  separate  account  to  be  appropriated 
towards  the  development  of  roads,  a sum equal 
to  the net  proceeds  in  each  year  of  any  duties 
on  motor  spirit  imposed  by  any  Act  of  the 
present  Session,  and  the  net  proceeds  in  each 
year  of  the  duties  on  licences  for  motor  cars 
which  are affected by  any such Act,  and the net 
proceeds  of  the  duties  shall  be  taken  to  be the 
gross  proceeds  of  the  duties, subject  to  deduc­
tions for cost  of  collection, and  for any payments 
into any local  taxation  account  or  to any  county
council  (including  the  council  of  a  county
borough)  in  respect  of  the  proceeds  of  the 
duties or  any deficiency  of  those  proceeds. 

The  First  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time;

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  put,  That  this  House  doth  agree  with  the 
Committee  in the  said  Resolution  ; 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to the  Right;  

The  Noes to  the  Left. 

Tellers for the [ Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

[Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for  the/ Captain  Faber,

Noes, 

[Mr.  Rawlinson  : 

So it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

The  Second  Resolution,  being  read  a second 

time,  was agreed  to. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported  Finance 
from the  Committee  on  Finance  [Consolidated  ^^ 8i l i d a t ed 
Fund]  of  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant  Septem­
ber  several  Resolutions  ;  which  were  read,  as 
follow: 

u

Division  of  Local  Taxation  Licence  Duties 
between  Local  Authorities  and  Exchequer.  


1.  That,  for  the  purpose  of  payments  into  Division  of 

any local taxation  account, the proceeds  of  any 
duties  on  any local  taxation  licences  (including Duties6 
duties  for  motor cars)  which  are altered  by  any  between 
Act  passed  in  the  present  Session  shall  be 
Autho­
deemed  to  be  the proceeds  of  the duties  in  the  Exchequer, 
year  ending  the  thirty-first  day  of  March 
nineteen  hundred and  nine. 

Taxation 

2.  That  any  duties  for motor  cars imposed  by 
any  Act  of  the  present  Session  be  levied  by
county  councils  in  England  and  Wales,  and  be 
duties to:which  section  six  of  the  Finance  Act,
1908, applies, and that the  amount of  the duties 
so  levied  be  divided  between  county  councils 
(including  the  councils  of  county  boroughs) in 
England  and  Wales  and  the Exchequer  so  as  to 
provide  for  the  payment  to  each  such  county
council  of  an  amount  equal to  the proceeds  of 
the  duties  levied  by  that  council  during  the 
year  ending  the  thirty-first  day  of  March 
nineteen  hundred  and  nine  in  respect of  motor 
cars  on  which  the  new  duties  are  imposed, 
and  for  the  payment  of  the  balance  into  the 
Exchequer,  and that if  in  any year  the  amount 
of the duties  so  levied  is not sufficient to pay  to 
each  such county  council  the  amount  required 
to  be  paid  the  deficiency  shall  be  charged  on 
the  Consolidated  Fund. 

3.  That  all  payments  made  in  pursuance  of 
conditions  attached  to  new  licences  under jSec­
tion  four  of  the  Licensing  Act,  1904, shall  be 
paid into  the  Exchequer. 

The  said  Resolutions,  being  read  a  second 

time, were  agreed  to. 

The House, according  to  Order, resolved itself  Finance  Bill,

into a Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  62  amended,  and  agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  63 agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  64  (Duty  on  motor  spirit). 
Mr.  Gwynn  moved,  That  the  Chairman  do  Chairman 
report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit  again ;  declines  to
'  rkiYinoQP 
but  the  Chairman,  being  of  opinion  that  the Question 
Motion  was  an abuse of  the  Rules of  the House,  (Abuse  of 
declined  to  propose  the  Question  thereupon  to  Eules<)
the  Committee. 

o. 

o 

.. 

i 

' 

Amendment  proposed,  in p.  41,1.  12, to leave 
out  subsection  (6)—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.)

Question,  That  the words  proposed  to  be  left 
out, to the word  "  appears," in  1. 22, stand part of 
the  Clause, put, and agreed  to. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 41,  1. 22, 

to  leave  out  the  words  "appears  to  the  Trea­
sury,"  in order  to insert  the  words  " is shown  to 
the  satisfaction  of  the  Commissioners."—(Sir 
Frederick  Banbury.) 

48.

1 1, 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause: — 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 41,1.  24, 

to  leave out subsection  (7).—(Captain  Craig.) 



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24th  September.  


Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  he left  out stand part of  the  Clause  :—Debate 
arising; 

Closure 
claimed,  but 
Chairman 
withholds  his 
assent. 

Mr.  Robert  Pearce  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put;  but  the  Chairman  withheld  his assent, and 
declined  then  to  put  that  Question  :—Debate 
resumed. 

Chairman 
declines  to 
propose 
Question 
(Abuse  of 
Bules.) 

Mr.  Stanley Wilson moved, That the Chairman 
do report  Progress,  and ask  leave  to  sit  again; 
but  the  Chairman,  being  of  opinion  that  the 
Motion  was  an abuse of the  Rules  of  the  House, 
declined  to  propose  the  Question  thereupon  to 
the  Committee. 

Question  put,  That  the  words proposed  to  be 

left out stand part  of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thefMr. Joseph  Pease, 
1 Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the ("Captain  Craig, 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Renwick: 

]  140. 
! 
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j 

7 5. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause  stand 

part of  the  Bill  : —Debate  arising ; 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  rose  in  his 
place  and  claimed  to  move,  That  the  Question 
be  now  put. 

Question put,  That  the  Question  be now  put. 

Clause  No.  66  (Duty  on  licences  for  motor  


cars). 


Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 43,1. 3, after the 

word "practitioner,"  to  insert  the  words  " o  r  

veterinary  surgeon."—(Mr.  Hunt.)  


Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there  


inserted. 


The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for thefMr.  Hunt, 

I  61 

Yeas, 

IMr.  George Faber  : 

Tellers  for  the/Captain  Norton, 

Noes, 

(Sir  Edward Strachey.  J 

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1156 

An  Amendment  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 43.1.  8, 

at the  end, to insert the  words— 

"  (5)  The duty payable under this section shall 

not  be  levied  in  the  case  of  any  person  tem­
porarily  resident  in  the  United  Kingdom  for  a 
less  period  in  any  year  than  three  months."— 
(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain.) 

Question  proposed, That those words be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 

Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 

Clause  No.  67  (Payments in respect  of  mono­

poly  value  to go  to  Exchequer). 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for thefMr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the f Mr. Renwick, 
(Mr.  Gretton'. 

Noes, 

\  ^g 
f 

7 8. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 43,1.  22, to  leave 

out subsection  (2).—(Mr.  George  Faber.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  C l a u s e s-
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  Clause 

Clause agreed  to. 

Clauses  No.  68 and No. 69 agreed  to. 

J

  164. 

Clause  No.  70  (Payment  of  duties  on  motor 
spirit and  motor  car  licences  to  road  improve 
ment  account). 

stand part of  the Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
\Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  thefMr.  George Faber, 

Noes, 

\M.v.  Fell: 

}  58. 

Clause  No.  65 (Exemptions  and allowances  in 

respect of the duty  on motor  spirit). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 42,  1. 6,  to  leave 

out the  word  "  half."—-(Mr.  Arthur  Stanley.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  " h a l f  " 
stand  part  of  the  Clause : — Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 42,1.  14, 
$o leave out  the word "  Commissioners," in  order 
to  insert  the words  "Inland  Revenue  officer  of 
the district."—(Mr.  Renwick.) 

Question,  That  the  word  "Commissioners" 

stand part of the  Clause,  put, and agreed  to. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 42,  1. 26, 

at the end, to add the  words— 

"  (4)  Every  dealer  in  motor  spirit  shall,  on 
the  sale  as  duty  paid  of  any  quantity  not  less 
than  one  gallon  of  spirit  which  is  motor  spirit 
within  the  meaning  of  this  Act,  deliver  there­
with  to  the purchaser  an invoice  stating  that  the 
duty  chargeable  has  been  paid  upon such  spirit 
and  setting  out  the  amount  of  such  duty,  and, 
for  the  purposes of obtaining  repayment  of  any 
duty,  such  invoice  shall  be  accepted  by  the 
Commissioners  as  proof  that  the  duty  stated  in 
the invoice  to have  been  paid  has  been  paid  by 
the  person  in whose  name  the  invoice  is  made 
out."—(Lord  Robert  Cecil.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words  be  there 

added:—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause  agreed  to. 

VOL.  164. 

Amendment  proposed, in p. 45,  1, 12, after the 
word  " development,"  to insert  the  words "  and 
maintenance."—(Earl  of  Ronaldshay.) 

Question proposed,  That those  words be  there ;

inserted 

Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Clause  agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  71 postponed. 
Clause  No.  72  agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  73 amended, and agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  74 agreed  to. 
To  report Progress, and ask leave to  sit again. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed the  Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That  the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in the 
Bill;  and that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That 
the Committee  may have  leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved, That this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­

t  ?  O

mittee. 

Resolved, That  this  House  do  now adjourn.—  Adjournment 

(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  ten  minutes  before  Six  

of the  clock,  adjourned till  Monday  next.  


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21th  September.  	

1909. 

[No.:  149 

[No.  149.] 

Monday,	  '21th  September 1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Hamilton 	 TH E  Hamilton  Burgh  Order  Confirmation 

Bill  [Lords] was, according   to  Order,  read 

	 the  third  time and passed. 

Burgh  Order 
Confirmation 
Bill  [Lords.'] 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath agreed to the same, without  Amendment. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His  Board of 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  t h  e  Agriculture 
Proceedings  at the  Nineteenth  Annual  Meeting  and  Flshenes ­
of Representatives  of  Authorities  under the  Sea 
Fisheries  Regulation  Act,  1888. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That  there be  laid before  this House  Parliamentary 

a  Copy  of  General  Alphabetical  Index  to  the I'apow. 
Bills, Reports, Estimates, Accounts, and  Papers 
printed  by Order  of  the House  of  Commons, and 
to  the  Papers  presented  by  Command,  1852-99. 
— (Mr. Hobhouse.) 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read;  and ordered  to  lie  upon the  Table. 

Ordered,  That  the Amendments  made by  the  Trade  Boards 

Lords  to  the  Trade  Boards  Bill  be taken  into  Bill-
consideration  to-morrow  ;  and be printed. 

Bill 327. 

Public 
Petitions, 
Vide Fifth 
Report. 

Ordered,  That  the  Paper  relative  to  the 
Endowed 
Schools Acts.  Endowed  Schools  Act,  1869,  and  amending 
No. 286.  Acts,  which  was  presented  upon  the  24th day 
of  this instant  September, be  printed. 

Poor  Laws  and  Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented*  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Appendices  to 
Relief  of 
Distress 
the  Keport  of  the  Royal  Commission  on  the 
<Royal 
Commission.)  Poor  Laws  and  Relief  of  Distress.  Vol.  V., 
Minutes  of  Evidence  (Days  90  to  94),  with 
Appendix.  Vol;  VA.,  Index   to  Minutes  of 
Evidence.  Vol.  X I  X B„  Report  by  Mr.  Cyril 
Jackson. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur-
Polling 
Districts 
suant  to  the directions  of  an Act   of  Parliament, 
(City  of 
Wakefield.) 	 —Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
City of  Wakefield, redividing  the  Parliamentary 
Borough  into  Polling  Districts, 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Board  of 
Trade (Labour  Command,—Copy  of  Report  on  changes  in 
fcCngesein	  Rates  of  Wages  and  Hours  of  Labour  in the 
Wages,  &c.)  United  Kingdom  in  1908,  with  comparative 

Statistics for  1899—1907. 

Gas and Water  Copy  of  Report  by  the  Board  of  Trade  of 
their  Proceedings  under  the  Gas  and  Water 
Orders. 
Works  Facilities  Act,  1870, during  the  Session 
of  1909. 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

< 

Super-
annuations, 	

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions of several Acts  of  Parliament,— Copy 
of  Treasury  Minute  under  the  Superannuation 
Act,  1859, dated 21st  September  1909, declaring 
that for  the  due  and  efficient  discharge  of  the 
duties  of  the  Office  of  Director  of  Labour 
Exchanges  professional or  other peculiar  quali­
fications  not  ordinarily  to  be  acquired  on  the 
Public  Service  are  required. 

Copy  of  Treasury  Minute,  dated  24th  Sep-
Teachers' 
tember  1909,  directing  that  the  Accounts  of 
Registration 
Fund  Deposit  Receipts  and Payments  in  connection  with  the 
Account. 
Teachers'  Registration  Fund  Deposit  Account 
be  examined  and  audited  by  the  Comptroller 
and Auditor  General. 

Ordered, That  the said Papers do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic 
and Consular  Reports, Annual  Series, Nos. 4359 
and 4360. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Assurance  Companies  Bill  [Lords] was  Assurance 
read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a Companies 
^ 
second  time  to-morrow  ;  and to  be printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by  the  Lords, 
one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth: 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Local  Edu-  Local 
cation  Authorities  (Medical  Treatment)  Bill,  Education 
Authorities 
. 
,	 
without any  Amendment.	 
(Medical 
Treatment) 
Bill. 

. .  , 

i 

. 

, 

The Lords  have  agreed  to the  Board of  Trade  Board of 

Bill,  without any  Amendment. 

Trade  Bill, 

; 

Mr.  Chancellor  Of  the  Exchequer  reported  Ways and 

from the  Committee  of  Ways and  Means of  the 
22nd  day  of 
Resolutions ;  which were read,  as follow; 

this  instant  September  several  Keport. 

Mineral  Rights  Duty. 

1.  That  there  shall be charged  for  the current  Mineral 
and  every  subsequent  financial  year,  on  the  Ri=llts  Duty* 
rental  value of  all  rights to work  minerals and of 
all  mineral  wayleaves,  a  duty  at the rate in  each 
case of  one  shilling for  every  twenty  shillings  of 
that  rental  value. 

The  rental  value to be taken  to  be— 

(a)  Where  the  right  to  work  the minerals 

is  the  subject  of  a  mining  lease,  the  

amount  of  rent  paid  by  the  working  

lessee  in  the  last working  year in  respect  

of that right;  and  


(b)  Where	  minerals  are  being  worked  by  

the  proprietor  thereof,  the amount which  

is  determined  by  the  Commissioners  of  

Inland  Revenue  to  be  the  sum  whicfh  

would  have  been received  as the rent  by  

the proprietor  in the  last working  year if 

the right  to  work  the  minerals  had  been  

let, and the  minerals  had  been  worked  to  

the same extent  and  in  the  same manner 

as  they  have  been  worked  by  the  pro­
prietor  in  that year;  and  


(c)  In	  the  case  of  a  "mineral  wayleave,  the  

amount  of  rent  paid  by  the  working  

lessee in  the  last working  year  in  respect  

of the  wayleave.  


Increment  Value  Duty  on  Minerals. 

2.  That  any  duty  charged  on  the  increment  increment  

value  of  minerals  which  are  comprised 
in  a ValJi® Dutf 

mining  lease  or  are  being  worked  shall  b eo u  m e ra s" 

charged  annually, and  the increment  value  shall  

. be	  taken  to  be  the sum  by  which  in  each  year 
the  rental  value  of  the  minerals  exceeds  the 
annual equivalent  of the  original  capital  value of 
the  minerals, or the capital  value of  the minerals 
on  the  last  preceding  occasion  on which  incre­
ment value  duty  has been  collected. 

No. 149.]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

21th  September. 

Estate Duty  Deductions. 

Estate Duty
Deductions.

3.  That it is expedient  to  limit  the  debts and 
encumbrances  which  may  be  deducted from  the 
value  of  an  estate  in  determining  the value  of 
the  estate for  the purposes of  estate  duty. 

The  First  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time ; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  put,  That  this House  doth  agree  with  the 
Committee  in  the said  Resolution ; 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to  the  Right;  

The  Noes to  the  Left.  

Tellers for the f Captain  Norton,  


Yeas, 

\ Mr.  Fuller : 

Tellers for  the /Mr.  Newdegate, 

}121. 

1  ^ 
f 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Samuel Roberts: 
So it was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
The  Second  Resolution  being  read  a  second 

time; 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  put, That  this House  doth  agree  with the 
Committee  in the said  Resolution ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for the/Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Fuller: 

i  1 2 i 
J 

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Laurence Hardy,  V  gg 
(Mr .Lambton: 

Noes, 

J 

finance  Bill,

So it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

The  Third  Resolution,  being  read  a  second 

time,  was agreed  to, 

Ordered,  That  it  be  an  Instruction  to  the 
Committee  on  the  Finance  Bill  that they  have 
power  to  make  provision  therein  pursuant  to  the 
said  Resolutions. 

Finance

fConsolidated

'

The  House, according  to Order, resolved  itself 
f Consolidated 

i n t 0  a  Committee  oh  Finance 
Fund], 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Additional  Payments  to  Local  Authorities 
on account  of Land  Value  Duties. 

Resolved, That  there  shall  be  charged  on  the 
Consolidated  Fund  in each  year  a  sum  equal  to 
half  the  proceeds  of  the  duties levied  in respect 
of  land  values  (including  mineral  rights  duties) 
under any  Act  of  the  present  Session,  and that 
sum shall  be divided between  England,  Scotland, 
and Ireland  in such manner  and  paid  into  such 
separate  accounts for  the  benefit  of  such  local 
authorities  as Parliament  may  determine,—(Mr. 
Chancellor of  the  Exchequer.) 

Resolution  to be reported. 

Mr,  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman reported,  That  the  Committee 
had  come  to  a  Resolution. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  be  received  to­

morrow. 

f i n a n ce  BiU, 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved  itself 

into  a Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
Clause No.  15 be further  postponed till after the 
new  Clauses to  be  proposed  by the  Government 
—(Mr.  Chancellor of the Exchequer)  :—Motion, 
by  leave,  withdrawn. 

VOL.   164. 

Clause  No.  15 further postponed  till after  the 
new  Clause  to  be  proposed  by  the  Government 
(Definitions for  purpose  of  mineral  provisions). 
—(Mr.  Chancellor of  the  Exchequer.) 

Postponed  Clause  No.  25. 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  17,1. 4, to  leave 
out from the beginning to  the first word  "  land," 
in  1. 5,  in  order to  insert  the words "  Nothing  in 
this  Part of this Act  shall apply  to  land,  or any 
interest  in  land,  the  income  and profits whereof 
are  legally  appropriated  and  applied  to  the 
promotion  of  education,  literature,  science,  or 
the fine arts,  or to."—(Sir  Philip Magnus.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  N o" 

stand  part of  the  Clause :—Debate  arising; 

Mr.  Attorney  General  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed to  move, That  the  Question  be  now put. 

Question put, That the  Question  be now  put.  Question  put 
s^OCtosnre 
The  Committee  divided.	 
Tellers  for the f Captain  Norton, 
of Debate.) 

Yeas, 
r 

,v 

•  m  „	 

Tellers  for the 
•Woes, 

^ 
\ Sir  Edward Strachey :  J 
! Sir Alexander Acland- 1 

B o o d; 

( M r.   Henry  Forster : 

53. 


• 

Question  put  accordingly,  That  the  word 

"  No "  stand part of  the  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the/ Captain  Norton, 

1176 

Yeas, 

I Sir  Edward Strachey :  J  


Tellers for the/ Sir  Philip  Magnus, 

Noes, 

(Sir  Henry  Craik: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  17,  1. 4, 
after  the  word  "  No,"  to  insert  the  words 
"reversion  duty  or  undeveloped  land."—(Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

) 
J 

54. 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

I Sir  Edward Strachey: 

Tellers  for thefMr.  Lane-Fox, 

1 190 
f 
1 

-. 

Noes, 

\ Mr.  Walter Guinness  :  J  


Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  17,1.  5, 
after  the  word  "held,"  to  insert  the  words 
"  occupied  or used."—(Mr. Rawlinson.) 

Question  proposed,  That those  words  be  there 

inserted:—Amendment,  by  leave, withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  17,1. 5, 
after the  word  "  by,"  to insert  the  words  "  or in 
trust for."—(Mr.  James Hope.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  17,1.  5, 
to  leave  out  from  the  second  word  " a n y  "  to 
the  word  "  charitable,"  in  1. 9, in  order to insert 
the  words  "  governing  body  constituted  for."— 
(Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 

Question,  That  the words proposed  to  be left 
out stand part of  the  Clause, put, and  negatived. 
Question  proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed  to the proposed  Amend­
ment, after the word  "  body,"  to insert the  words 
"  club  or  society."!—(Mr,  James Hope.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be there 
inserted  in  the proposed  Amendment:—Amend­
ment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by  leave, 
withdrawn, 

Proposed  words there  inserted. 
Other Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  17,1.  11,  

to  leave  out  from  the  word  "  purposes "  to  the  


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27th—-28th  September.  	

1 9 0 9. 


elnd of the  Clause,  in order to  add the  words "  of 
that  body, and  increment  value  duty  shall  not 
be collected  on any periodical  occasion in respect 
of the fee  simple of  Or  any interest  in  any  land 
held for  the purposes  of  such a body, whether  it 
is occupied  or used by that body  or not,  without 
prejudice,  however,  to  the collection  of  the  duty 
on any  other  occasion. 

Question  proposed,  That those words be  there 
inserted  in the proposed  Amendment  :—Amend­
ment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by 
withdrawn. 

leave, 

Proposed  words there  added. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Postponed  Clause  No.  t\  (Reduction  of  per­

The  expression  ' governing  body  constituted 
for  charitable  purposes ' includes  any  person  or 
body  of  persons who have the  right  of  holding, 
or any  power of  government  of,  or  management 
over, any  property  appropriated  for  charitable 
purposes  (including  property  appropriated  for 
the  purpose  of  any  of  the  naval  or  military 
forces of  the  Crown)."—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer.) 

Question,  That  the  word "  but "  stand part of 

the  Clause, put, and  negatived. 
Subsequent  words left  out. 

:  Question  proposed,  That  those words  be  there 
added: 

Amendment  proposed  to  the  proposed  Amend­
ment, in  1. 3, to leave  out from the  word "  body  " 
to  the  end of  1. 5, iu  order  to  insert  the  words 
"  and such increment  value duty  shall  be deemed 
to  have  been  paid  on  every  occasion  on  which 
such duty  would  have been  payable  but  for  the 
provisions  of  this section."—(Mr. Salter.) 

Question  put, That  the words  proposed  to be 
left out  stand  part of the proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the (Captain  Norton, 

^199 

Tellers for thefMr.  <SW£er, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

\Sir  Edward Strachey :  < 
"l 
} 

I Mr. Remnant: 

Proposed  words  there  added. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  17, after 

the  words last  added, to  add the  words— 

"  (2)  This section  shall apply to the fee simple 
of  or any interest in any land held  by a registered 
society  as  if  the  purposes  of  the  society  were 
charitable  purposes. 

In  this  provision  the  expression  ' registered 
•society '.means	  any  society  or  body  of  persons 
who  are  registered,  or  whose  rules  are  certi­
fied  or  registered,  by  a  Registrar  of  Friendly 
Societies in pursuance of any Act  of  Parliament." 
—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 

Question proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

added :—Amendment,  by  leave, withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  17, after 

the  words last added, to add the  words— 

"  (2)  This  section  shall apply to  the fee  simple 
of or any interest in any land held by a registered 
society  as  if  the  purposes  of  the  society  were 
charitable  purposes. 

In  this  provision  the  expression  ' registered 
society'  means  any  society  or  body  of  persons 
who  are  registered,  Or  whose  rules  are  certi­
fied  or  registered,  by  a  Registrar  of  Friendly 
Societies  in pursuance of any Act  of  Parliament, 
and who  by  their  rules  make  provision  for  the 
benefits set  out  in section  eight, subsection  one, 
of  the  Friendly  Societies  Act,  1896, and  where 
the  contract  between  the society and the member 
is  of  a  permanent  character."—(Mr.  Attorney 
General.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be  there 

added i 

Amendment  proposed  to the  proposed  Amend­
ment,  in  1.  3,  after  the  word  "  purposes,"  to 
insert  the  words "  provided  that  no  exemption 
under this  subsection  shall apply  to any premises 
used  for  trading  purposes."—(Mr.  Walter 
Guinness.) 

manent  annual  charge). 

Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause stand  part 

of the  Bill: 

Tuesday, 28th  September  1909: 

Question  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the (Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

1 j
I Sir  Edward  Strachey :  ! 
Tellers for the f Sir Frederick  Banbury,  ] 
[Mr.  Walter Guinness:  / 

Noes, 

. „

To report  Progress, and ask  leave  to sit again. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
dhairnian  of "Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have leave to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring  Laws 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con-  Continuance 
tinuance Bill; 

B,11> 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the day  being read, for  taking  London 

into consideration the  London  Elections  Bill (not  Elections  Bill 
amended  in the  Standing  Committee) ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Customs  and 
Bilj 

Committee  on  the  Customs and Inland  Revenue 
Bill; 

. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Prisons 
Second  Reading  of  the  Prisons  (Scotland)  Bill  C^ot'-and) 
[Lords']-, 

Bill[X«*.J 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Summary 
Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction ^rist<?ict^n 
(Scotland)  Act, 1908,  Amendment Bill [Lords'] ; Act? 1908, 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read  a second  time BUiTz^isN 

upon Monday  next. 

... 

1 

r 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Child  Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

L 

J 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort- Councils 
gages  Bill; 

Mortgages 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Coal  Mines 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation  Elation 
Bill; 

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No. 149 ]  9  E D W.   Y I I. 

21th—28th September. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Union  Officers 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Ireland)  BiU.  Second  Reading  of the  Union  Officers  (Ireland) 

Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be-read  a  second  time 

this  day-

Health  Resorts  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
•(Ireland)  Bill.  Second Reading  of  the Health Resorts  (Ireland) 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  said Order  be  discharged. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill be  withdrawn. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 

Places  of 
Worship 
"(Enfranchise­
ment)  (No.   2)  (Enfranchisement)  (No. 2)  Bill; 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second time 

this  day. 

Bishopric  of 
Sheffield Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
i n t  0  consideration the Bishopric  of Sheffield Bill, 
as amended  in the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Trustees' 
Accounts  Bill.  Third  Reading  of the  Trustees' Accounts  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read the third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Parliamentary 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Icotland)618 °f  Second  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Seats 
Bill. 

(Peers  of  Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Dublin  Police 
Bul- 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Parliamentary  Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return to an  Order, 
dated  the  27th  day  of  this  instant  September, 
Papers. 
for  a Return  relative to  Parliamentary  Papers. 

Ordered, That  the  said Return do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House without  Question  put, pursuant to 
the Order  of  the  House of  the  20th  day 
of  August 
last,  it  being  then  twenty 
minutes  after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on 
Tuesday  morning, till this  day. 

[No.  150.] 

Tuesday, 2&th  September  1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Public  APUB LIC  Petition  was presented,  and read ; 

Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth  

Report. 

Mr.  Burns  presented,—Return  to  an  Order,  

Poor  Relief 
(England  and   dated  the  3rd  day  of  August  last,  for  a Return 


and ordered to lie  upon  the  Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Peterhead 
Command,—Copy  of  Reports  respecting  Peter- Harbour, 
head  Harbour  Works. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  pursuant  to  Diseases of 
the  directions  of  an Act of  Parliament,—Copy  of  f g ^ f ^ V im 
Order, No.  7779, under  the  Diseases of  Animals 
Acts,  1894  and  1903,  dated  22nd  September 
1909, revoking  Order, No.  7751, of  10th  August 
1909. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message from 

e  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by the  Lords. 

one of their  C Ilerks,  as followeth: 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  Sir  R.  Whitting- Sir  R. 

tou's  Charity  Bill,  without  any  Amendment. 

Whittington's 
Charity  Bill. 

The Lords have agreed to the Bridgend  (Hope  Bridgend 

English  Baptist  Chapel,  &c.)  Charity  Bill, 
without any  Amendment. 

(Hope  English 
Baptist 
Chapel,  &c.) 
Charity  Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  John  Marshall's John 

Charity  Bill, without  any  Amendment. 

Marshall's 
Charity  Bill. 
The  Lords  have  agreed to  the  Lichfield  and Lichfield and 

Longdon  Congregational  Chapels  and  Trust 
Property  Charity  Bill, without  any  Amendment. Chapels  and 

Longdon 
Congregational 

Trust  Property 
Charity  Bill. 

The  Lords have  agreed  to  the  Dewsbury  and Dewsbury 
Batley  Congregational  Chapel  Charities  Bill, and  Batley 
without  any  Amendment. 

Congregational 
Chapel  . . 
Charities  Bill, 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  W ortley  Con- Wortley  ;  .  " 

gregational  Chapel  Charity  Bill,  without  any 
Amendment. 

Congregational 
Chapel 
Charity  Bill. 
Secretary  of 
the  Board of 
Board  of  Agriculture  and Fisheries  Bill, without Agriculture 
any  Amendment. 

The  Lords  have agreed  to the  Secretary of the 

and  Fisheries 
Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the Assistant Post-  Assistant 
master  General  Bill,  without  any  Amendment.  Postmaster 

* 

General  Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Kilkenny,  Kilkenny, 
Castlecomer,	  and  Athy  Railway  Bill,  with  Castlecomer, 
Amendments;  to  which  the  Lords  desire
Railway  Bill. 
concurrence  of this  House. 

t h e - "

y -

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An  Education 

Act  to  make  provision  for  the  better  admin-  (Adminis­
istration  by  central  and  local  authorities  in  ^ ^ o n s  ) 
England  and  Wales  of  the  enactments  relating  Bill 
[Lords.] 
to  Education  ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of  this  House. 

Mr,  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer  reported  Finance 

from  the  Committee  on  Finance 
Fund]  of  the 27th  day  of  this instant  September
a Resolution ;  which  was read,  as followeth : 

  un 

[ C o n s o l i d a t ed   ^onsoiidated 

Additional  Payments  to  Local  Authorities  

on account of  Land  Value  Duties.  


That there shall be charged on the Consolidated 
Fund  in  each  year  a  sum  equal  to  half  the 
proceeds  of  the  duties  levied  in  respect  of  land 
values  (including  mineral  rights  duties)  under 
any  Act  of  the  present  Session,  and  that  sum 
shall be  divided  between  England,  Scotland, and 
Ireland in such manner and paid into such separate 
accounts  for the benefit of  such  local  authorities 
as Parliament  may  determine. 

The  said Resolution, being  read  a second  time, 

was agreed  to. 

No  287

r e l a t i ve   t 0

  Poor  Relief  (England  and  Wales). 

Ordered, That  the  said  Return  do lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be printed. 

VOL.   164. 

The  House, according to  Order, lesolved  itself  Finance  Bill 

into  a Committee  on  the Finance  Bill, 

3  u  4 

 
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28th—29th  September. 

1 9 0 9. 

[NO 150. 


(In  the  Committee.) 

A  Clause  (Mineral  rights  duty)—(Mr.  Chan­
cellor  of  the Exchequer) — brought  up, and  read 
the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Clause  be read a second  time. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the ("Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fuller  : 

|  234. 

Tellers for thefSir^lJander 
' 

Noes 
' 

1 
(Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Acland~  1  87. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 2, to leave  out  the 
words "  all  rights,"  in order  to  insert  the  words 
"  the right."—(Mr.  Samuel Roberts.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words  "  all  rights 

stand  part of the  proposed  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the/Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

\Mr.  Fuller : 

/ 210. 
I 
\Mr.  Watson Rutherford-.] 

Tellers  for  the/Mr.  Samuel Roberts, 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 3,  after 
the  word  "  minerals," to  insert  the  words  " not 
being of  a less value than  four  shillings per  ton." 
—(Mr. Newdegate.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words be  there 

inserted :—Debate  arising; 

Mr.  Attorney  General  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed to  move, That  the  Question  be  now put. 
Question  put,  That  the  Question  be  now  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the (Captain  Norton, 

\ 192. 

Yeas, 

\Mr. Fuller-. 

Tellers for the f Sir  Gilbert Parker, 

Noes, 

(Viscount  Dalrymple: 

62. 

Question,  That  those  words  be  there  inserted, 

put accordingly,  and  negatived. 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 3, to leave 
out  the  words  "  and of  all mineral  wayleaves." — 
(Mr.  Laurence  Hardy.) 

Question put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left out stand part of  the proposed  Clause. 

Question  put 
(pursuant to 
S.O.  Closure 
-of  Debate.) 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for thej Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fuller: 

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Laurence  Hardy, 

217. 

80. 

Noes, 

(Mr. Newdegate: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1.  4,  after 
the  word  "  the," to  insert the word  "graduated." 
-—(Mr.  Watson Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  gradu­
inserted : —  Amendment,  by 

ated "  be  there 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1.  4,  to 
leave  out  the  words  " one  shilling,"  in  order  to 
insert  the  words  "six  pence." —(Mr.  Samuel 
Roberts.) 

Question  put, That  the words  "  one shilling  " 

stand part  of  the proposed  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller: 

Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Samuel Roberts, 

Noes, 

t  Sir John Randies : 

) 
} 
) 
I 

209. 

78. 

An Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  1. 16, after 
the  word  "year,"  to  insert the  words  "Provided 
that  the  Commissioners  shall  cause  a  copy  of 
their valuation of  such rent  to  be served  on  the 

owner  of  the land, and  the owner  shall  have the 
same right  of giving  notice  of  objection  and  of 
appeal  as the owner of land  under  the provisions 
of  this  Part  of  this  Act." —  (Mr.  Laurence 
Hardy.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  1. 27, after 
the second word  "  in,"  to insert  the  words "  case 
of wilful."—(Mr.  Watson Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed,  That those  words  be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1.  35,  to 
leave  out from the  word  " lessee "  to  the  end,  in 
order  to  add  the  words  "  Provided  that  where, 
under  a  contract  or  covenant  made  before  the 
thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen  hundred  and 
nine, a lessee  has agreed  to  pay all future  taxes, 
rates,  or  assessments  which  may  for  the  time 
being  be  levied, charged,  or  payable  in  respect 
of  the  mines or minerals  demised by the  lease, or 
in respect  of the rents or  royalties payable  there­
under, nothing  herein contained  shall  alter  the 
effect  of  such  contract  or  covenant."  —•(Mr. 
Lambton.) 

Question  put, That  the  words  proposed  to  be 

left out stand part of the proposed  Clause. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for thej Captain Norton,

Yeas, 

IMr.  Fuller :

Tellers for  the/Mr.  Lambton,

Noes, 

(Mr.  Samuel Roberts :

) 
J 
(
J 

202. 

65. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another Amendment proposed, after the words 

last  added, to  add the  words— 

"  (5)  Mineral  rights  duty shall not  be charged 
in respect  of  common  brick  clay,  common  brick 
earth  or  sand,  chalk,  limestone,  or  gravel."— 
(Mr.  Attorney  General.) 

Question proposed,  That those  words  be  there 

added : 

Amendment  proposed to  the proposed  Amend­
ment,  at  the  end,  to  add  the  words  "  granite 
building  stone  or  road stone."—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 
Question proposed, That those words be added 

to  the  proposed  Amendment: 

Wednesday, 29th  September  1909 : 
Amendment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by 

leave,  withdrawn. 

Proposed  words there added. 
Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

be  added  to the  Bill. 

Yeas, 
„ 
^  .. 
Tellers for  the!  
Noes, 

,, 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the/ Captain  Norton, 

\ 
\Mr.  Fuller: 
) 
(' Sir  Alexander Acland-  "I 

192. 

H o n d) 

[Vigcount  Valentia 

58. 
-. 
Another  Clause  (Deduction  of  mineral  rights 
duty  in  case  of  more  than  one  lease) —  (Mr. 
Chancellor  of the  Exchequer)—brought up, and 
read  the  first  and  second  time,  amended,  and 
added  to  the  Bill. 

To  report  Progress, and ask leave  to  sit again. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may  have leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again  resolve itself into the said  Committee. 

 
 
NO;I|>O.J  9  E D W.  Y I  L 

28th—29 th  September.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second time 

Expiring  Laws 
Continuance 
Bill. 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con­
tinuance  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

-  The  House, according  to Order, resolved  itself 
into  a  Committee  on  the  Customs  and  Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

this  day. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put, pursuant to 
the  Order  of  the  House  of  the 20th  day 
of  August  last, it  being then ten minutes 
before  One  of  the  clock  on  Wednesday 
morning, till this day. 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Clause  No.  1  (Power  to  require  production 

of invoices,  &c.). 

Question  proposed,  That  the  Clause  stand 

part of  the  Bill  : 

Motion  made,  and  Question,  That  the  Chair­
man do report Progress, and ask leave to sit again 
—(Mr.	  Timothy Healy),—put,  and negatived. 

Clause  agreed  to. 
To  report Progress,  and ask leave to  sit again. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair  ;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved, That this House will,  upon  Thursday 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

/ 

[No.  151.] 

Wednesday,  29th  September 1909. 

The  House  met  at a quarter of  an  hour 
before Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

TH E  House  proceeded to  take into  considera-  Kilkenny, 

tion, pursuant to the  Order of  the  House  of  Castlecomer, 
the  2nd  day  of  August  last,  the  Amendments gailwavBill 
made by the Lords to the Kilkenny, Castlecomer, 
and  Athy  Railway  Bill;  and  the  same  were 
twice  read, and agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint  them that this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments made by  their 
Lordships. 

Child  Murder 
(Trial)  Bill 
\_Lords.~\ 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [Lords'] ; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

•County 
Councils 

Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

Union Officers 
(Ireland)  Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading of the  Union  Officers  (Ireland) 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a  second  time 

this day. 

Health 
Resorts and 
Watering 
Places 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Health  Resorts  and  Watering  Places 
(Ireland)  Bill  was,  according  to  Order, read  a 
second  time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  this  day.— 
(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Places of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  (No.   2) 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  (No.  2)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this day. 

Bishopric  of 
Sheffield  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read, for taking 
into consideration  the Bishopric of  Sheffield  Bill, 
as amended  in the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

Trade  Boards 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the. day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the Amendments  made  by the 
Lords  to the Trade  Boards  Bill; 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public 

read j  and ordered  to lie  upon the  Table. 

videFiftb 

Report. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  Trade  Reports 

His  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  (Annual 
and  Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  No. 4361,  Series'") 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr,  Runciman presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Board of 
Command,—Copy of  List of Certified Schools for  Education. 
Blind,  Deaf,  Defective,  and  Epileptic  Children 
in  England  and  Wales  on the 31st July  1909. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Banking  and 

Command,—Copy  of  Report  on  the  Banking, Railway 
Railway,  and  Shipping  Statistics of  Ireland  for ^eiand!) 
the half-year  ended  30th  June  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords by  the  Lords, 
one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth  : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Metropolitan  Metropolitan 
Ambulances 
Bill. 

Ambulances  Bill, without  any  Amendment. 

J	 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Workmen's  Workmen's 
Compensation  (Anglo-French  Convention)  Bill, Compensation 
(Anglo-French 
.
Convention) 
w i t h o u  t  a n  y
Bill. 

  A m e n d m e n t  .

; ?  .

a 

i • 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Marriages  Marriages 
Provisional  Order  (No.  2)  Bill,  without  any ;?ro,visl'°?a' 
.	 
. 
Amendment. 

Bill. 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Bury  Cor-  Bury 

J  Order (No.  2) 

poration  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which  the  Corporation 
Lords  desire the concurrence  of  this  House. 

Ordered, That  the  said Amendments  be taken 

Mr.  Birrell  presented  a Bill to make provision  Local 

into  consideration  this  day. 

Assurance 
Companies 
Bill 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assurance  Companies 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 
V O L . 1 6 4. 

with  respect  to  the  application  of  the  Local 
Registration  of  Title  (Ireland)  Act,  1891,  to  (i r eiand)  Bill, 
the  County of  Cork  :  And the same was ordered  Bill 329. 
to  be  read  a second time  to-morrow;  and to  be 
printed. 

3  O 

 
 
 
JFinanee Bill. 

The House, according to Order, resolved  itself 

into  a Committee  on  the Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Another  Clause 

(Special  provisions  as  to 
increment  value  duty  and reversion  duty  in  the 
case  of  minerals  worked  or 
leased) —  (Mr. 
Chancellor of the  Exchequer)—brought up,  and 
read  the first time.  , 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Clause be  read  a second  time. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the [Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

1 Captain  Norton : 

Tellers  for the ]  Sir John Randies, 

Noes, 

\ Mr.  Salter: 

1909,  £ No* 151 

however, that no greater sum shall be recoverable 
from  the  Commissioners  than  the  difference 
between  the  original  capital  value  of.  the  minr 
erals  and  the  capital  value  of  the  minerals 
specially  ascertained  as  aforesaid."—(Mr.  New­
degate.)

Question,  That  those  words  be  there  inserted, 

put, and  negatived. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1.  39,  to 
leave  out  subsection  (6).—(Mr.  Watson Ruther­
ford.)

|  223. 

1 
f 

81. 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed  

to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "  within,"  in  1.  40,  

stand  part of  the proposed  Clause,  as  amended:  

—Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn.  


Amendments made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  1. 12, at the 
end, to  insert  the words "  or  such further period 
as  the  Commissioners  may consider  reasonable." 
—(Mr.  Laurence Hardy.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1.  21,  to 
leave  out  the  words  "  capital  value  of  the 
minerals  on  the  last,"  in  order  to  insert  the 
Words  "highest  rental  value  of  any." —  (Mr. 
Watson Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to be  left out  stand  part of the proposed  Clause, 
as amended  :—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 23, after 
the  word  " b e ,"  to  insert  the  words  "provided 
that where increment  value duty  has  been paid 
Under this  section, and  where  in  any  subsequent 
year  the  rental  value  is  a  sum  less  than  the 
annual  equivalent  of  the  capital  value  of  the 
minerals, the amount  of  such  difference shall  be 
added  to the capital  value, and  so  on  from year 
to year, and  no  increment  value  duty  shall  be 
charged  unless  or  until  the  rental  value  exceeds 
the  annual  equivalent  of  the  capital  value  of 
the  minerals,  as  so  amended."—(Mr.  Laurence 
Hardy.) 

Question proposed, That  those  words be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1.  24,  to 
leave  otit  the  words  "  two  twenty-fifth  parts," 
in order  to  insert  the  words  "  one  equal  tenth 
part."—(Mr. Lambton.) 

Question  put,  That  the  Words  proposed  to  be 
left  out  stand  part  of  the  proposed  Clause,  as 
amended. 

)  .  ^ 
I 
' 
i 
f 

The Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the) Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
\ Captain  Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  thej Mr.  Lambton, 

Noes, 

l_Mr. Newdegate  : 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1.  29,  at 

the  end, to insert the  words— 

"  (5)  Where  increment  value  duty  has  been 
paid  under  this  section,  and  thereafter  the 
capital  value  of  the  minerals  is  diminished  or 
destroyed  from  any  cause  other  than the  work­
ing  or getting  of  the minerals,  the capital  value 
of  the  minerals  shall  be  forthwith  specially 
ascertained  in accordance  with  the  provisions  of 
this  Act,  and  the  proprietor  of  the  minerals, 
where the proprietor  is working  the  minerals,  or 
the  immediate  lessor  of  the  working  lessee,  as 
the case may  be  (or, where  any mining  lease has 
been  granted  subsequent  to  the  first  ascertain­
ment  of the original  capital  value of  the minerals, 
in  such  proportions,  respectively,  as  the  Com­
missioners  think  fit),  shall  be entitled  to  recover 
from  the  Commissioners  the  sums  paid  for 
increment  value  duty  under  this  section,  so, 

Question  put,  That  the  Clause,  as  amended, 

be added  to the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the / Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Fuller : 


188. 

Tellers for  the / Mr.  Watson Rutherford, \  ^ 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Robert Duncan : 

J 

Another  Clause  (Definitions  for  purpose  of 
mineral  provisions)—(Mr.  Attorney  General)— 
brought  up, and read  the first and second time. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 7, after  the  Word 
"applies,"  to  insert,  the  words  " b ut  does  not 
include a mortgagee."—(Mr. Watson Rutherford.) 
Question  proposed,  That those  words be  there 

inserted:—Amendment,  by  leave, withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 12,  at the 
end, to  insert  the words  "  and  any payment  or 
consideration in respect  to surface lands damaged 
by  the workings  of  a  lessee  where  the  payment 
or  consideration 
in  respect  to  such  damage 
exceeds  the  market value of  such  surface  lands." 
—(Mr. Marhham.) 

Question  proposed,  That those  words  be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 38, after 
the  word  "  worked,"  to  insert  the  words  " or 
being  won  for  the purpose of  being  immediately 
worked."—(Mr. Marhham.)

Question  proposed,  That those  words be there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  1. 43, after 
the word "  events,"  to insert the words  "  (except 
where  exceptional  mining  difficulties have  arisen 
in  the  course  of  working  or  developing  the 
minerals  due  to  wash-outs, faults, water, fire, or 
any  other  exceptional  mining  difficulties)." 
(Mr. Markham.) 

Question,  That  those words  be  there  inserted, 

put, and  negatived. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Clause,  as amended,  added  to  the  Bill. 
Postponed  Clause  No.  15  (Application  of 
provisions  as to  total  and  site value  to  minerals). 
Amendment  proposed,  in p.  12,  1. 8, after  the 
word  "  sold,"  to insert  the words "  at the time  of 
valuation."—(Mr.  L^aurence  Hardy.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  12,1.  9, 
to  leave  out from the word  "  realise "  to the end 
of  the  subsection,  in  order  to  insert  the  words 
"  calculated  on the  basis  Of the present worth of 
the  royalty  value  thereof, regard  being  had  to 
the  period  within  which  the  minerals  could 
reasonably  be  expected  to  be  worked. 

(2)  For the purposes  of  this  Part  of  this  Act 
the  capital  value  of  minerals  means  the  total 
value of  minerals, subject  to the following  deduc­





151,]  9  EDW.  V I I. 

29th—60th  September. 

tions,  which  shall  be  allowed  by  the  Commis­
; sioners :— 

(a)	  Any  sums  which  are  proved 

to  the 
the  Commissioners  to  be 

satisfaction  of 
reasonable  in respect  of  water,  faults, wash­
outs, or  other  physical  defects or  disadvan­
tages  to which the minerals comprised  in the 
area  the  subject  of  valuation  are  or  are 
likely  to  lie  exposed; 

(b)  Any	   sums  which  are  proved 

to  the 
satisfaction  of  the  Commissioners  to  have 
been  spent  on  boring  or  other  operations 
carried  out for the purpose  of  bringing  the 
minerals into working, or, where the minerals 
have  been partly  worked, such  part of  those 
sums  as  is  proved  to the  satisfaction  of  the 
Commissioners  to  be  proportionate  to  the 
amount of  minerals ungotten. 

(3)  For  the  purposes  both  of  total  value and 
•capital value of  minerals  there shall  be  excluded 
from  valuation— 

(a)  Any  area in  respect of which, by reason of 
its not  being  adjoining  or  contiguous  to  an 
open mine, or for any other cause, no reliable 
basis of  computation  is available at the time 
of  valuation  with  regard  to  the  existence 
and character of  minerals  (if  any)  comprised 
in such area, including their depth, thickness, 
and quality  ; 

(b)  Any  unworked  minerals  situate  at a depth 
from  the  surface  exceeding  eight  hundred 
yards; 

{ c)  Any  minerals	   which  are  proved  to  the 
satisfaction  of  the  Commissioners  to  be 
commercially  unworkable  at  the  time  of 
valuation ; 

(d)  Any	   minerals  which  are  proved  to  the 
satisfaction  of  the  Commissioners  to  be 
unworkable  at  the  time  of  valuation  by 
reason of  being  required  in  connection  with 
the  working  of  other  mines,  as  barriers 
against water, or fire, or  other  contingency, 
or  by  reason  of  the  owner  being  under  a 
legal  obligation  to  afford  support  to  the 
superjacent  or adjacent  surface  or  mines." 

—(Mr.  Laurence  Hardy.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  " such,"  in  1.  10, 
stand part of the Clause ;—Amendment, by leave, 
withdrawn. 

Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  12,  1. 16, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "in  the  opinion  of  the 
Commissioners."—(Mr.  Laurence  Hardy.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:— 
Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed  to. 
Another  Clause  (Exemption  of  small  houses 
in  owners'  occupation)—(Mr. 
and  properties 
Chancellor  of  the Exchequer)—brought  up, and 
read  the first and second  time. 

'' for," 

Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 4, to  leave  out  the 
the  words 
to  insert 
the."  —  (Mr.  Watson 

in  order 
word 
"  substantially  during 
Rutherford.)

Question  proposed, That  the  word " for " stand 
part  of  the  proposed  Clause :—Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment proposed, in 1. 2], to leave 
out the word "  not."—-(Mr.  Watson Rutherford.) 
Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  not" 

stand  part  of  the  proposed  Clause:—Amend­
ment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

" ( c)  A  house  shall  be  deemed  to  be used  by  

the  owner,  and  agricultural  land  with  a  

dwelling-house  shall  be  deemed 
to  be 
occupied by the owner, if  such owner usually  

resides  there,  and  notwithstanding  that  a  

part  may  be  sublet,  or  that  some  trade,  

business, or  profession  is  carried  on  there,  

or  that  the whole house  has been sublet  for. 

not  exceeding  two months  out of  the  twelve  

months." 


—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

Question  proposed,  That those  words be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause  added to  the  Bill. 
Another  Clause  (Exemption  for  agricultural, 
land) —  (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer)—1 
brought  up, and read the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 

the  Clause be  read  a second time : 

Thursday, 30th September  1909:  


Question  put, and agreed  to-

Clause  added  to the  Bill.  

To  report  Progress, and ask leave  to  sit  again.  


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have leave  to sit  again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself Police Bill, 

into  a Committee  on the  Police  Bill, 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  1  (Annual  contribution  towards 

expenses of  Metropolitan  Police). 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  Clause 

stand part of the  Bill  : 

Question  put,  and agreed  to. 
Clauses  No. 2  to  No.  4 agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  5 (Pensions  of  widows and children 

of  constables  killed, on  duty). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  2,  1.  19,  to  leave 
out  the  words "  which  is not  accidental."—(Mr. 
Hay.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause: — 
Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Amendments  made.  

Clause,  as amended,  agreed  to.  

Clause  No.  6 agreed  to. 
Bill,  as amended, to  be reported.  


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and.  the  

Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That  

the  Committee  had gone  through  the  Bill.  


Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  

Committee,  be taken  into  consideration this day. 


• 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring  Laws 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con- Continuance 

tinuance  Bill  ; 

Bill.' 


Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the child  Murder 

Second  Readiug  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial)  (Trial)  BiU 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

{Lords.]

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 33,  at the 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

end,  to insert  the  words— 

V O L.   164. 

" 

this  day. 

3  o  2 





4 68 

29th—30th  September. 

1 9 0 9. 


•County 

Mortgages 
Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-
gages  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 

of  Proceedings  under  the  Small  Holdings  and  

Allotments Act, 1908,  and other Acts.  P a r t l l. 
Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon the 


Table. 


this day. 

Onion  Officers  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Ireland)  BiU.  geC01Ki  Reading  of  the  Union  Officers  (Ireland) 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bijl  be read  a second  time 

this  day. 

Health  Eesorts  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
and  Watering  Committee  on the  Health  Resorts  and  Watering 
(Ireland) Bill,  -Places (Ireland)  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself into  the said  Committee. 

Places of 
Worship 
(Enfranchise­
ment)  (No,   2)  (Enfranchisement)  (No.  2)  Bill;  

Bill. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
Bishopric of 
Sheffield BiU.  into  consideration the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield Bill, 

as amended  in the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

Trade  Boards 
Bill. 

The  Order of  the  day being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by 
the Lords  to  the Trade  Boards  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  said  Amendments be taken 

into consideration  this day. 

Assurance 
Companies 
Bill 

[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assurance  Companies 
Bill  [Lords]-, 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put, pursuant  to 
the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th day 
of August  last, it being then twenty-eight 
minutes  after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on 
Thursday  morning, till  this  day. 

Bury 
Corporation 
Bill. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Beport. 
Shop  Hours 
A.ct,  1904. 

[No.  152.] 

Thursday, 3(M  September  1909. 

The  House met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A TE  R S. 
f\RDERED, 
^ 
taken  into  consideration  to-morrow. 

That the  Amendments made  by 
the  Lords  to the Bury  Corporation  Bill  be 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie upon  the  Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  pursuant to  the  direc­
tions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Order 
made  by  the  Corporation  of  Sligo  under  the 
Shop  Hours  Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by  the 
Lord  Lieutenant  of  Ireland,  fixing  the hours  of 
closing for certain  classes of  Shops. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His 
Board  of 
Agriculture  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Annual  Report 
and  Fisheries. 

Mr,  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Universities of 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  Oxford and 
of  Statute  made  by  the  Governing  Body  o f ^ i g y  f 
Magdalen  College,  Oxford,  under  the  Upiver-  (Oxford.) 
sities  of  Oxford  and  Cambridge  Act,  1877,  on  No. 288. 
the  1st February  and  26th  May  1909,  amending 
certain of the  Statutes  of  the  College. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper do  lie  upon  the  


Table  ;  and be  printed.  


Secretary  Sir Edward Grey  presented,  by  His  Trade  Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  and j^P™®1 
Series.) 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  No.  4358. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Census of 

Command,—Copy  of  Preliminary  Tables  sum-  Production,  

marising  the  results  of  the  Returns  received  1907­
under  the  Census  of  Production  Act,  1906. 
Part  I.,  containing  particulars  relating  to  (1)  

Mines, under  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation  Acts  

(including  coke  and  oil  shale  works  in  con­
nection  with  Mines);  (2)  Cotton  Factories; 
(3)  Woollen  and  Worsted  Factories;  (4)  Tin­
plate  Factories  ;  (5)  Iron  and  Steel  Factories  

(smelting, founding, and  rolling),  


Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His Workmen's 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Statistics  of  Compensation. 
Compensation  and  of  Proceedings  under  the 
Workmen's  Compensation  Act,  1906,  and  the 
Employers'  Liability  Act,  1880, during  the year 
1908. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  North  Sea 

Command,—Copy  of  Fourth  Report  (  N o r t h e rn  fisheries 
Area)  on  Fishery  and  Hydrographical  Investi- co^itteeOQ 
gations  in  the  North  Sea  and  adjacent  Waters, 
1906-8.  Hydrography. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Sir  David  Brynmor  Jones  reported  from  standing 
Standing  Committee  C,  to  whom  the  Develop-  Committee  C. 
ment  and  Road  Improvement  Funds  Bill  was and Boaden 
referred;  That  they  had  gone  through  the  Bill  improvement 
and  made Amendments  thereunto. 

Funds  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  No. 289. 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

Ordered, That the Minutes of  the Proceedings  No. 289. 

of  the  Standing  Committee  be  printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Bill 330. 

Standing Committee, be taken into  consideration 
upon  Monday  next;  and  be  printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by  the Lords, 
one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords have  agreed  to  the  Colonial  Naval  Colonial  Naval 

Defence  Bill,  without  any  Amendment. 

Defence  Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Naval  Esta-  Naval 

blishments  Bill,  without any  Amendment. 
e 

ments  Bill. 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Telegraph  Telegraph 

Kstablish­

(Arbitration)  Bill, without  any  Amendment. 

(Arbitration) 







No. 15&]  9  EDW.  VII. 

30th September. 

The  Lords have agreed to  the  Local  Govern-
L o c al 
Government  ment Provisional  Orders  (No.  9)  Bill,  with  an 
Provisional 
Orders (No.  9)  Amendment;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
Bill. 

concurrence  of this  House. 

Lune  Fisheries  The  Lords  have  agreed  to the  Lune  Fisheries 
Provisional  Order  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to 
Provisional 
Order  Bill. 
which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  this 
House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendment  made  by  the 
Looal 
Government  Lords  to  the  Local  Government  Provisional 
Provisional  Orders  (No.  9)  Bill  be taken into  consideration 
Orders (No.  9)  to-morrow. 
Bill. 

Lune  Fisheries  Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  made by  the 
Lords  to  the  Lune  Fisheries  Provisional  Order 
Provisional 
Order  Bill, 
Bill  be taken  into consideration  to-morrow. 

Finance  Bill. 

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved  itself 

into  a Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 
Another  Clause  (Special  provision  for  incre­
ment  value  duty  in  the  case  of  land  used  for 
games  and  recreation)—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer)  —brought  up,  and read  the first and 
second  time, and added. 

Another  Clause  (Provisions  as  to  Crown 
the  Ex-
lands,  &c.)  —  (Mr.  Chancellor  of 
chequer)—brought  up,  and  read  the  first  and 
second time, and added. 

Another  Clause  (Special  provision  as to flats) 
—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer)—brought 
up,  and  read  the  first  and  second  time,  and 
added. 

Another  Clause  (Claims  for  deductions  not 
allowed  except  on  first  occasions  on  which 
deduction  could  be  made)—(Mr.  Chancellor  of 
the  Exchequer)—brought  up, and read  the first 
and second  time,  and added. 

Another  Clause  (Exemption of  small  holdings 
from  undeveloped  land  duty)—(Mr.  Chancellor 
of  the  Exchequer)—brought  up, and  read  the 
first and  second time. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 4,  at  the  end,  to 
insert  the  words  " nor  shall  any  small  holding 
of  ten  acres or less, let  at  three  pounds  an acre 
or  more,  as  long  as  it  is  used  entirely  for 
agricultural  purposes,  be  subject  to  the  un­
developed  land  duty."—(Mr.  Hunt.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

}  63. 

)  . 
f 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr.  Hunt, 

Yeas, 

1 Viscount  Helmsley : 

Tellers  for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

ICaptain  Norton: 

Noes, 
Clause  added. 
Another  Clause (Exemption  of  land to  extent 
of  sum  paid  to  rating  authority  in  respect  of 
increase  in  value) —  (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer)—brought  up,  and  read  the  first 
and second time. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 2, after  the  word 
"  paid,"  to  insert  the  words  "  or  any  charge 
based  on a capital  sum is  or  has been  payable." 
—(Mr.  Walter Guinness.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 8, after 
the word  "  duty," to  insert  the words "  and from 
the  total  value  of  the land  for  the  purposes  of 
the collection  of  reversion  duty."—(Mr.  Salter.) 
Question  proposed,  That  those words be  there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

VOL.  164. 

Clause  added. 
Another  Clause  (Exemption  for  statutory 
companies)—(Mr.  Attorney  General)—brought 
up, and read  the first and second time. 

Amendment proposed, in 1. 6, at the end, to add 
the  words "  except  in  the case of  land  sold  by  a. 
statutory  company  not  carrying  on  their  under-­
taking  with  a  view  to  the  payment  of  any 
dividend  or profit out of  the revenue  thereof,"—<­
(Mr.  Stanley Wilson,) 

Question  proposed,  That those  words be  there 

inserted  :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  1. 25, after 
the second  word  "  company,"  to insert the  words 
"  or public  body  incorporated  by  Act  of  Parlia­
ment  or  Royal  Charter  and."-(Mr.  Watson 
Rutherford.) 

Question proposed,  That  those  words be  there-

inserted :—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause  added. 
Another  Clause  (Application  of  Part  I.  to­
copyholds)—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer): 
—brought up, and read  the first and second  time,, 
and  added. 

Another  Clause  (Duties  of  Commissioners  as 
to  keeping  records  and  giving  information)— 
(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer)—brought 
up, and read the first and second  time. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 7, after  the  word 
"interested,"  to  insert  the  words  "and  to  no 
other person."—(Sir  Edward Carson.) 

Question  put,  That

  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  thefViscount  Valentia,

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Pike Pease:

Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph  Pease,

„Q 
by' 

1
J
1 
J 

ICaptain  Norton:

Noes, 
Clause  added. 
Another  Clause  (Power  to  transfer  land  in-: 
satisfaction of estate duty, settlement estate  duty, 
or  succession  duty) — (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer)—brought  up, and read  the first and 
second  time. 

An  Amendment  made. 
Clause,  as amended, added. 
Another  Clause  (Deduction  of  amount  paid 
for  increment  value  duty  from  value  of  estate 
for  purposes  of  estate  duty)—(Mr.  Chancellor 
of  the  Exchequer)—brought  up,  and  read  the 
first and second  time, and  added. 

Another  Clause  (Protection  of  purchaser  and 
mortgagees  of  interests  in  expectancy)— (Mr.. 
Chancellor  of  the Exchequer)—brought  up,  and 
read the first time. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  1.  3,  to  leave  out-
the  word  "full,"  in  order  to  insert  the  word 
"  valuable."—(Mr.  George  Faber.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word 

" f u l l" 
stand  part  of  the  proposed  Clause  :—Amend­
ment, by leave,  withdrawn. 

Clause  added. 
Another  Clause  (Extension  of  relief  from 

income  tax  under  Schedule   A )  — (Mr.  Chan­
cellor  of the  Exchequer)—brought  up, and  read 
the first and  second  time. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  1. 3, to  leave  out  the 
word  "  three,"  in  order  to  insert  the  word 
"nineteen."—(Viscount  Dalrymple.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  three"" 

stand  part  of  the  proposed  Clause:—Amend­
ment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

A n  Amendment  made. 

3  o  3 

 
 
 
30th September. 

1 9 0 9; 

[ N o.  1 5 2. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  1.  13,  to 
leave  out  from  the  word  "  which "  to  the  word 
" f o r ,"  in  1. 15,—(Mr. Courthope.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the words  proposed 
to be left out  stand part of  the  proposed  Clause, 
as  amended  : —  Amendment,  by  leave,  with­
drawn. 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in  1. 42,  at the 
end, to add  the words  "  The expression  ' repairs ' 
shall for the purposes  of  this section  be taken  to 
include  the  enlargement, reconstruction,  or  con­
version  of  buildings,  so  far  as  is  proved  to  be 
reasonably  necessary  for their  beneficial  occupa­
tion  and  to  be  unproductive  of  any  additional 
rent."—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

Question  proposed,  That those  words  be  there 

added :—Amendment, by  leave, withdrawn. 

The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Police  Bill,  


take  into  consideration  the  Police  Bill,  as  

amended  in the  Committee.  


Ordered, That  the  Bill  be now read  the  third  

The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the  third  


time 
time and passed.  


Ordered, That  the Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to  


the  Lords,  and desire their  concurrence.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring  Laws 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expirino  Laws  Con-  Continuance 
tinuance  Bill; 

Blll\ 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Child  Murder 

Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder 
B i ll   [Lords]  ; 

( T r i a l)   (Trial)  Bill 

'  [•&»*•] 

Clause,  as amended, added. 
Another  Clause  (Extension  of  exemption  of 
friendly  societies  and  trade  unions'  provident 
(Mr,  Hobhouse) — 
funds  from  income  tax) 
brought  up, and  read  the first and  second  time, 
and  added. 

Another Clause (Payment of  half the proceeds 
of  the  duties  on  land  values for  benefit of  local 
authorities)—(Mr.  Hobhouse)—brought  up,  and 
read the first and second  time, and added. 

Another  Clause  (Laying  of  rules  and  regu­
lations  before  Parliament)  — (Mr.  Hobhouse)—
brought  up, and  read  the first and  second  time, 
and  added. 

Another  Clause  (Limitation  on  debts  deduc­
tible  from  value  of  estate)—brought  up,  and 
read  the first and second  time, and  added. 

To  report  Progress,  and ask leave to  sit again. 

Mr,  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  made Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may have leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again resolve itself into  the said  Committee. 

Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill.  

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved itself 
into  a  Committee  on  the  Customs  and  Inland 

R e v e n l ie 

B i l l

. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.  2 to  No.  10 agreed  to.  

Clauses  No.  11  to  No.  13 disagreed  to.  

Clauses  No.  14  and  No.  15 agreed  to.  

A  Clause  (Certain  agreements  not  to  be  


deemed  bonds  or  covenants)—(Mr.  Harmood­
Banner)—brought  up, and read  the first time. 

Question,  That  the  Clause  be  read  a  second 

time, put, and  negatived. 

Schedule  amended, and  agreed  to. 
Bill,  as amended, to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman  reported,  That  the Committee 
had gone  through  the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Committee,  be  taken 
morrow. 

into  consideration  to­

Local 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Registration  Second  Beading  of  the  Local  Registration  of 
(Ireland)  BiU.  Title  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be read a second  time 

upon  Tuesday  next. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  County  

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Council  Mort-  Councils  

gages Bill ; 

Mortgages 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a, second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  tinion Officers 
Second  Reading  of  the  Union  Officers (Ireland)  (Ireland)  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Health  Resorts 

Committee  on the  Health Resorts  and Watering a nd   Watering 
Places  (Ireland)  Bill; 

& d  )  BiU. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will, upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself into the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  (No.  2 )  Bill ; 

^Enfranchise^ 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second  time  Bin-

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read,  for  taking  Bishopric  of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield  Sheffield  Bill, 
Bill,  as amended  in the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking  Trade  Boards 

into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by  Bill, 
the  Lords  to  the  Trade  Boards  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  said Amendments  be  taken 

into  consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Assurance 

Second  Reading  of  the  Assurance  Companies 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

-i 
i  i  or  ».} 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read  a second  time 

to-morrow. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the  

House  without  Question  put, pursuant  to  

the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th  day  

of  August  last,  it  being  then  twenty  

minutes  before  Twelve of  the  clock,  till  

to-morrow. 




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1st  October. 

[No.  153.] 

Friday,  1st October  1909. 

The  House  met  at  Twelve  of the  clock. 

P R A T E R S  . 

Bury

Corporation
Bil1,

r T H  E  Order of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Amendments  made 
J . 
by  the  Lords  to the  Bury  Corporation  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  said  Amendments  be taken 

into  consideration  upon  Wednesday  next. 

Local

Government
O r SS   9) h7  t he  L o r ds   t 0 
Bill. 

The  House, according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Amendment  made 

t he  L o C al   Government  Pro-

visional  Orders  (No.  9)  Bill;  and  the  same was 
twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  Carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendment  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Lune  Fisheries  The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made 
Provisional 
the  Lords  to  the  Lune  Fisheries  Provisional 
Order  Bill. 
Order  Bill;  and  the  same  were  twice read, and 
agreed  to. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Report. 
Trade Reports 
SerfesT* 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and acquaint  them that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented, and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie  upon the  Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's Command,—Copies  of  Diplomatic  and 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4362 
to  4367. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Finance  Bill. 

The  House, according to  Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Another  Clause 

(Special  provisions  with 
respect  to  certain  classes  of  property)  —  (Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer) —  brought  up, 
and  read  the  first  and  second  time,  amended, 
and  added. 

Another  Clause  ( Abatements  of  duty  in cases 
of death under ten years)—(Mr.  Samuel Roberts)
—brought  up, and read  the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Salter-. 

Clause  be read  a second  time. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the (Mr.  Samuel  Roberts, 

Tellers  for  thefMr.  Joseph Pease, 

) 
j 
I   ]/)A
j   1 4 U' 
Another  Clause  (Exemption  for  home-grown 
tobacco  to  be used  to  make nicotine  washes) — 
(Colonel  Warde)— brought  up,  and  read  the 
first time. 

(Mr,  Fuller: 

Noes, 

„, 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Clause  be read  a second time :—Motion  and 
Clause,  by leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Clause  (Moneys  payable  on death  of 
deceased  in  respect  of  policy  of  insurance  to 
form  separate  estate  in  estimating  value  of 
for  estate  duty)—(Mr.  Renwick)—
property 
brought  up, and read the first time. 

V O L.  1 6 4. 

Motion  made, and  Question,  That  the  Clause 

be  read  a second  time, put, and  negatived. 

Another  Clause  (Assessment  for  income  tax 
of  trade  investments)—(Sir  Seymour  King)— 
brought  up,  and  read  the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Clause  be read  a second  time  Motion  and 
Clause,  by leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Clause  (Special  Commissioners  to 
act  only  upOn  sworn  evidence  given  in  presence 
of  parties)—(Mr.  Renwick)—brought  up,  and 
read the first time. 
• Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Clause  be read a  second time :<—Motion and 
Clause,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Clause  (Profits of  a married  woman 
not to  be deemed  profits of  her  husband)—(Mr-. 
Hills)—brought  up, and read  the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Clause  be  read  a second  time. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the) Mr. Hills, 

Yeas, 

j 
1 Sir Frederick  Banbury : ! 

4g

Tellers for the j Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Fuller: 

]..  1Q

f 

Another  Clause  (Partial  exemption  of  land  

from reversion  duty)—(Mr.  Walter  Guinness)— 
brought  up, and read  the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Clause  be read  a second  time  :—Motion  and 
Clause, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another Clause (Repeal of cocoa  duty)—(Mr. 

Hunt)—brought  up, and read the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Clause  be  read a second  time. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Hunt, 
( Mr.  Hills: 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

t Mr.  Fuller: 

| 


)  ,  qn

[ 

Another  Clause  (Appeals  against  assessment-
to  income  tax)--(Sir  Archibald  Williamson)— 
brought  up, and  read  the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Clause  be  read  a second  time. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the J Sir Archibald Williamson, (  ^ 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Younger-. 

Tellers  for thej Mr.  Fuller, 

•  Noes, 

(Mr .Whitley-. 

I 
\ . 
/ 

Another  Clause  (Exemption  of  estates  of 
persons  killed  in  the  service  of  the  Crown)— 
(Mr.  Rupert  Guinness)—brought  up,  and  read 
the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Clause  be  read  a second  time. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the J Mr.  Rupert Guinness, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  George Faber: 

Tellers  for  the) Mr.  Fuller, 

Noes, 

IMr.  Whitley. 

38. 

153. 

J 
\ 
J 

Another  Clause  (Provision  for  sales of  land 
under  Land  Purchase  Acts)—(Mr.  Muldoon)—
brought  up, and read the first time. 

Motion  made,  and  Question  proposed,  That 
the  Clause  be read  a second  time ;—Motion  and 
Clause, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Clause 

for  wasting 
capital)—(Mr.  Remnant)—brought  up, and read 
the first time. 

(Allowance 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Clause be  read  a second  time. 

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lst-Mh  October. 

1 9 0 9.  

[No. 154. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the f Mr.  Remnant, 

V 
\ Mr,  Harmood-Banner :  J 
. 

3 6. 

Tellers for  thefMr. Fuller, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

IMr.  Whitley: 

/ 

Schedule  1. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 47,1.  8, to  leave 
out  the  words "  Duty  specified  in  Scale  I," in 
order  to  insert  the  words "ten  pounds."—(Mr. 
Scott Dickson.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 

to  be left out stand part of  the  Schedule : 

Motion  made,  and  Question,  That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer), 
put,  and agreed  to. 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed  the  Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in the 
Bill  ;  and that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That 
the  Committee  may have leave  to  sit again. 

Resolved,  That  this House  will,  upon  Monday 

next,  again  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Com­
mittee. 

l X n d 8 a nd
Eevenue  Bill.

V  T b  e  0 r . d er  of .  t he   day  being  read, for  taking 

consideration  the  Customs  and  Inland 

Revenue  Bill,  as amended  in the  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Monday  next. 

Assurance 
Companies 
BiU  [Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assurance  Companies 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Whereupon  Mr. Deputy  Speaker adjourned 
the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant to  the  Order  of  the  House  of  the 
20th  day  of  August  last, it  being  then 
seven  minutes  before  Five  of  the  clock, 
till  Monday  next 

The  Master  of  Elibank  presented,  pursuant  East  India 

ggg 

to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Return  of  all  Loans  raised  in  England  under1 
the  provisions  of  any  Acts  of  Parliament, 
chargeable  on  the Revenues  of  India,  outstand­
ing at the  commencement  of  the half-year  ended 
on  the  30th  September  1909,  with  the  rates  of 
interest  and  total  amount  payable  thereon, and 
the  date  of  the  termination  of  each  Loan,  the 
debt  incurred  during  the  half-year, the  moneys 
raised  thereby  during  the  half-year,  the  Loans 
paid off or  discharged  during  the  half-year,  and 
the  Loans  outstanding  at  the  close  of  the  half-
year ;  stating,  so far  as the  public  convenience 
will  allow,  the  purpose  or  service  for  which 
moneys have been  raised during  the  half-year. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the  


Table ;  and  be  printed.  


Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Philippine 
Command,—Copy  of  the  Act  of  the  United M»nds  ( N ew 
States  Congress,  approved  5th  August  1909, Tarifl!)8 
entitled  An Act  to raise Revenue for the Philip­
pine  Islands,  and  for  other  purposes;  to  the 
dutiable  list  of  which  have  been  added,  as  far 
as  possible,  the  former  Rates  of  Duty  on  the 
articles  specified  in the  new  Tariff, for  purpose 
of  comparison. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do  lie upon the 


Table. 


Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  Message from 

that  a  Message  had  been  brought  from  thet he  rj0rds­
Lords  by  one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Handloom  Handloom 

Weaving  Bill,  without  any  Amendment. 

Weaving  Bill, 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An  Municipal 
Act to  amend the  Municipal  Elections  (Corrupt  Elections  Bill 
and Illegal  Practices ) Act,  1884 ;  to  which  the  [ £ o r a s- ] 
Lords desire the  concurrence  of  this  House. 

Mr.  Murphy  presented  a  Bill  to  amend  the  School 

Irish Education  Act,  1892 :  And  the  same  was  n r d a n d  )  Bill 
ordered  to be  read a second time  upon  Wednes­
day  next;  and  to  be printed. 

[No.  154.] 

The  House, according  to  Order, resolved itself  Finance  Bill, 

into a Committee  on the  Finance  Bill. 

Mr.  Speaker's 
Absence. 

Trayers. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Supple­
ment  to 
Fifth  Beport. 

Factory  and 
Workshop 
(Schemes  for 
regulation  of 
Honrs  of 
Employment, 
&c. in 
Charitable 
Institutions.) 

Monday,  4th  October 1909. 

(In  the  Committee.)  


The  House  met  at a quarter of  an hour 
before  Three  of the  clock. 

TH E  House  being met, the Clerk at  the  Table 

informed  the  House  of  the  unavoidable 
absence  of  Mr.  Speaker  : —  Whereupon  Mr. 
Emmott,  the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means, 
proceeded  to  the  Table, and, after Prayers,  took 
the  Chair  as  Deputy  Speaker,  pursuant  to  the 
Standing  Order. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented,  and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie  upon  the  Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copy  of  Scheme  for the  regulation  of  hours  of 
employment,  intervals  for  meals  and  rest,  and 
holidays for workers  in the  Saint  Mary's  Home, 
Manchester,  approved by  the  Secretary  of  State 
for  the  Home  Department,  in  pursuance  of 
Section  5  (2)  (a)  of  the  Factory  and  Workshop 
Act,  1907,  in  substitution  for  the  Scheme 
approved  on the  30th July  1908. 

Ordered,  That  tbe  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Schedule  1.  

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  47,  1. 8, to  leave  

out  the  words  "Duty  specified  in  Scale  1,"  in 
order  to  insert  the  words  "ten  pounds."—(Mr. 
Scott  Dickson.) 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the 
Schedule  : 

Question  put.  

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 


Tellers  for the j  Mr. Younger, 


Noes, 

|  Mr.  Goulding  : 

132. 

97. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 47,1.  10, 
to  leave  out  "  £15  15s.,"  in  order  to  insert 
"£10."—(Mr.  Younger.) 

Question  put, That  "  £15  15s." stand  part  of 

the  Schedule. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for  the J" Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 


Tellers  for thefMr.  Younger, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Remnant: 

1 4 1. 

"(

J  99. 


 
No. 154.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

4th—5th October. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 47,  1. 14, 
to  leave  out  the  words  "Duty  specified  in 
Scale  2,"  in  order  to  insert  "  £1  Is."—(Mr. 
Younger.) 

Question  put,  That  the  words proposed  to  be 

left out  stand  part of the  Schedule. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Younger, 

Noes, 

(Earl  Winterton: 

] ^gg 
! 
^ ]05 

j 

Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment proposed,  in p. 47,  1. 37, 
to  leave  out "  £10  0s.  0d.,"  in  order  to  insert 
"  £1  0s. 0d.»—(Mr.  Dillon.) 

Question  proposed, That  " £10  0s.  0d." stand 
part  of  the  Schedule,  as  amended:— Debate 
arising; 

Mr.  Herbert  Samuel  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed to move,  That  the  Question  be now put. 

Question  put, That  the  Question  be now  put. 

4 73 

178. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

j Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for  the  (  Mr.  George Faber, 

I  i ] i 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Samuel Roberts :  J 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p. 48,  1.  19, 
to leave  out  from  the  word  "  manufactured  "  to 
the end  of  1. 21.—(Mr.  Charles Roberts.) 

• Question  proposed,  That  the  words  " and 

elsewhere  b y  "  stand  part  of  the  Schedule,  as 
amended : —Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Other  Amendments  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  49,1.  5, 
to  leave  out  "  £15  15s.,"  in  order  to  insert 
"  £10  Os."—{Mr.  Arkwright.) 

Question  put, That  " £ 15  15s." stand  part  of 

the  Schedule,  as amended. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Arkwright, 

179. 

116. 

)
j 

170. 

)
j 

Question  put 
(pursuant   to 
S.O. Closure 
o£  Debate.) 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the I Mr.  Joseph  Pease,  


Yeas, 

ICaptain  Norton: 

Tellers for  the f Mr. Patrick  O'Brien  


Noes, 

( Mr.  Hazleton: 
Question put accordingly,  That  "  £10  0s.  0d." 

J 170. 
J 

}  97. 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Younger: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 49,1.  6, 
to  leave  out  " £ 1  0  10s.,"  in  order  to  insert 
" £5  5s."—(Mr.  George Faber.) 

Question  put,  That  "  £10  10s."  stand  part  of 

174. 

98. 

stand part of  the  Schedule,  as amended. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 


Tellers  for  the  ( Mr. Patrick  O'Brien,  


Noes, 

( Mr.  Hazleton : 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 47,1.  38, 
to  leave  out  the first " 25,000," in order  to  insert 
"  50,000."—(Mr.  Staveley-Hill.) 

Question  put,  That  "  25,000 "  stand  part  of 

the  Schedule,  as amended. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 
( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Staveley-Hill,  

(Mr.  George  Faber 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

162. 

96. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 48,1. 4, 
to  leave  out from  the word  "  exceeding "  to the 
end of  1. 7, in order to  insert— 

"  1,000  barrels 

-

-

N ot  exceeding  5,000  barrels 

„ 
„ 
„ 

20,000 
50,000 
100,000 

„ 
„ 
„ 

-
-
-

-

- ' 

£ 
1 
3 
5 
10 
- 25 

-

d. 
0 
0 
0 
0 
0 

For  every further  50  barrels  or  fraction 
- 

of  50  barrels 

-

-

-

-

0  12 

6." 

Chairman 
rules 
Amendment 
out  of  Order. 

—(Mr.  John  Redmond.) 

Question  proposed,  That  "  100 "  stand  part  of 

the  Schedule,  as amended. 

And  notice  being  taken  that the  Amendment 
went beyond  the Resolution in Ways and  Means, 
the Chairman  ruled it  to  be  out of  order. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 48,1.  4, 
to  leave  out from  the word  "  exceeding  "  to  the 
end of  1. 6, in  order  to  insert— 

"  1,000  barrels 

-

Not  exceeding  5,000  barrels 

20,000 

50,000 

„ 

„ 

„ 
—(Mr.  John  Redmond.) 

100,000 

„ 

-

-

-

-

-

£ 
1 
3 
5 
10 
25 

d. 
0 
0 
0 
0  . 
0." 

Question  put, That  "  100 "  stand  part  of  the 

Schedule,  as amended. 

VOL.  164. 

the  Schedule,  as amended. 
The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  j Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers  for the  j Mr.  Gretton, 

Noes, 

114' 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  49,  to 

( Mr.  Hunt: 

leave  out  1. 7.—(Mr,  Herbert Samuel.) 

Question  put, That  the words  proposed  to be 
left out  stand part of the  Schedule,  as amended. 

The  Committee  proceeded  to  a Division. 

Tuesday, 5th  October 1909 : 

Tellers for the j  Mr.  Timothy Healy, 


Yeas, 

( Mr. Leif  Jones : 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 
( Captain  Norton : 

Noes, 

42. 

228. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 49,1.  8, 
to  leave  out  "  £10  10s.,"  in  order  to  insert 
"  £5  5s."—(Mr.  Arkwright.) 

Question,  That  " £ 1  0  10s." stand  part  of  the 

Schedule,  as amended, put,  and agreed  to. 

Other  Amendments  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 50, Is. 6 

and 7, to leave  out  the  words "  A  duty  equal  to  

half  the annual  value  of  the licensed  premises,"  

in order  to  insert  the words "  Duty  specified  in  

Scale  3."—(Mr.  George  Faber.)  


Question  proposed,  That  the  words "  A  duty 
equal  t o"  stand  part  of  the  Schedule,  as 
amended  :  


Motion  made, and  Question,  That  the  Chair­
man do report Progress, and ask leave to sit again 

—(Mr.  Herbert Samuel),— put, and agreed to. 


Mr. Deputy  Speaker resumed the  Chair;  and  

the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  

That  the  Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the  

Bill;  and that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  

the  Committee  may  have leave  to sit again.  


Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

again  resolve  itself  into  the said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Prisons  

Second  Reading  of  the  Prisons (Scotland)  Bill  (Scotland)  

[Lords]-, 

Bill [lord*.] 

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4th—Qth

October. 

1909. 

[NO. 154. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

London 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
Elections  Bill.   i n f  o  co„siaeration  the  London  Elections.  Bill 

(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee); 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Thursday  next. 

Summary 
Jurisdiction 
(Scotland) 
Act,  1908, 
Amendment 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction 
(Scotland)  Act, 1908, Amendment Bill  [ Lords] ; 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this  day. 

Coal  Mines 
Regulation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation 
Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Trustees' 
Accounts  Bill.  T h i r  d  R e a d i n g  of  the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  the  third  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Parliamentary 
Seats  (Peers of  g e c o n d  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Seats 
^
Scotland)  Bill.

g ^ * ,

^   B m 

^ 

. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship  Worship 
(Enfranchisement)  (No.   2)  Bill; 

1  /17r>ft.oylAl 

SHKO!1) 

/ 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time Bil1­

upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  Bishopric  of 
into consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield Bill,  Sheffield Bill, 
as amended  in the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Trade Boards 

into  consideration  the  Amendments  made by  the 
Lords  to the Trade  Boards  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  said Amendments  be  taken 

into  consideration  upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  House, according  to  Order,  proceeded  to  Customs and 
take  into  consideration  the  Customs  and  Inland j^J^g  Bill 
Revenue  Bill,  as amended  in  the  Committee. 

Ordered, That the  Bill be  now  read  the  third 
time :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read the  third 
time  and  passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 

the  Lords, and desire their  concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Assurance 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assurance  Companies  Companies  

Bill  [Lords]-, 

Bill 

[Lords.] 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

upon  Monday  next. 

Dublin  Police
Bm-

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Development 
and  Road 
Improvement 
Funds  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Development  and  Road 
Improvement  Funds  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon  Wednesday  next. 

Expiring  Laws

  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Continuance
Bil1"

  Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con­

tinuance  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this  day. 

Child  Murder 
(Trial)  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Child  Murder  (Trial) 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Order  be  discharged. 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  withdrawn. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill be read  a  second  time 

this day. 

Union  Officers  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Second  Reading  of the  Union  Officers  (Ireland) 

Bill; 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Whereupon Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  adjourned  

the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant to  the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  

20th  day  of  August  last,  it  being  then  

twenty-three  minutes after  Twelve  of  the  

clock  on  Tuesday  morning, till  this day.  


[No.  155.] 

Tuesday, 5th October  1909. 
The  House  met at a quarter  of  an hour 

before  Three  of  the  clock.  

r|"AHE  House  being  met,  Mr.  Emmott,  the 
J_  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means,  at  the 
request of  Mr.  Speaker,  proceeded to the  Table, 
and,  after  Prayers,  took  the  Chair  as  Deputy  Prayers. 
Speaker, pursuant to  Standing  Order  No.  I. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and pnblic 

read ;  and ordered to  lie  upon the  Table. 

' 

1 

Petitions. 
Vide Fifth 
Beport. 

The  House, according to Order, resolved  itself  Finance  Bill, 

into a Committee  on the Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.)  


Schedule  1.  

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 50,1.  6,  

to  leave  out  the  words "  A  duty  equal  to  half 
the  annual  value  of  the  licensed  premises,"  in 
order  to  insert  the  words  "  Duty  specified  in 
Scale 3."—(Mr.  George Denison  Faber.) 

Question  again proposed,  That  the  words  "  A 
duty  equal  to "  stand  part  of  the  Schedule  : — 
Debate  arising ; 

Health  Resorts  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
and Watering  Committee  on the  Health Resorts  and  Watering 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Places  (Ireland)  Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself into the  said  Committee. 

Mr.  Herbert  Samuel  rose  in  his  place  and  Closure 
claimed  to move, That  the Question  be now put;  claimed,  but 
but  the  Chairman  withheld  his  assent,  and  withholds  his 
declined  then  to  put  that  Question  : —  Debate  assent, 
resumed. 

 


 
 
 
No. 155.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

5th—6 th  October. 

475 

Question  put 
(pursuant  to 
S.O.  Closure 
of  Debate.) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Prisons 

Second  Reading  of  the  Prisons  (Scotland)  Bill  k u T M l  ] 
[Lords']; 

199. 

Mr.  Herbert  Samuel  rose  in  his  place  and 
claimed  to move,  That  the  Question be now put. 
Question  put,  That  the  Question  be  now  put. 

. 

. 

1 he Committee  divided, 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Henry  Forster, 

)  84. 
j 

Noes, 

( Lord  Balcarres: 
Question put accordingly,  That the word* "  A 

duty  equal  to "  stand part of  the  Schedule. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the) Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

I Sir  Edward Strachey : 

\ 
f 

Tellers for the)Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

(Lord  Balcarres: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 50,1.  6,  

after  the  word  "  to,"  to  insert  the  words  "  in 
the  case of  England  and  Scotland."— (Mr. John 
Redmond.) 

\ .  .g  

J 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers  for the/ Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien,  
 |  64. 

Yeas, 

I.Mr. Boland-. 

Tellers for the ( Mr.  Moore, 

\ 196. 
, 

Noes, 

(.Mr.  Lonsdale: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  50,  1, 7, 
after  the  word  "  premises," to  insert  the  words 
"  except  in  the  county  of  London,  where, until 
the new  register  be  established,  the  duty  shall 
be  equal to  a  third  of  the annual  value."—(Mr. 
William Pearce.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided.  

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  William Pearce, 


Yeas, 

I Mr.  Hugh Lea : 
Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

78. 

| ^qj


Noes, 

( Sir  Edward  Strachey:  j  


Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  50,1.  8,  

to  leave  out  the words  "  subject  to the minimum 
duty  payable  under  Scale  3."—(Mr.  Gretton.) 

Question  put,  That  the words proposed  to  be 

left  out stand part  of  the  Schedule. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

1  180 

Yeas, 

( Sir  Edward Strachey : J 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Gretton, 

Noes, 

( Viscount  Castlereagh  :  ) 

)  65. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, 

in  p.  50, 
column  2,  to  leave  out  Is.  10  to  14, inclusive, in 
order  to  insert  the  words  "  Duty  specified  in 
Scale  4."—(Mr.  Samuel Roberts.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out, to  the  word  " subject,"  in  p.  50, 
1. 12, stand  part of the  Schedule: 

Motion  made, and  Question, That  the  Chair­
man  do  report  Progress,  and  ask  leave  to  sit 
again—(Mr.  Herbert  Samuel),—put, and  agreed 
to. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the Committee  had  made  Progress  in  the  Bill; 
and  that  he  was  directed  to  move,  That  the 
Committee  may  have  leave to  sit again. 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

again  resolve itself  into  the said  Committee. 

Local 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Registration  Second  Beading  of  the  Local  Registration  of 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Title  (Ireland)  Bill; 

VOL.   164. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Summary 
Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction ?gristjiotV?n 
(Scotland)  Act,  1908, Amendment Bill  [Lords]  ; Act,' 1908, 
Ordered,  That  the Bill  be read  a second  time  Amendment 
J

Bill  Lords. \ 

' 
to-morrow.

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring Laws 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con-  Continuance 
tinuance  Bill; 

1  ' 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

to-morrow. 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit till 
the  clock  on  Wednesday 

after  Twelve  of 
morning; 

Wednesday,  6th  October 1909 : 

The  House, according to Order, resolved itself  Health  Resorts 
into  a  Committee  on  the  Health  Resorts  and ^  Watering 
Watering  Places  (Ireland)  Bill. 
(Ireland)  BiU. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  1 amended, and agreed  to. 
Clause  No.  2 amended, and  agreed  to. 
A  Clause  (Expenses)  brought  up,  and  read 

the first and second time, and  added. 
Bill,  as amended, to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had gone  through  the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Bill 332. 


Committee,  be taken into  consideration  this  day; 

and  be  printed.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  County 
Second  Reading  of  the  Countv  Councils  Mort-  Councils 
gages  Bill; 

_ 

" 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time  


this  day.  


Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question put,  pursuant to 

the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th  day  

of  August  last, it  being then  a quarter  of  

an  hour  after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  

Wednesday  morning, till  this  day. 


[No.  156.] 

Wednesday, 6th October  1909. 

The  House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 

before  Three  of  the  clock.  


P R A T E R S. 

THE  House, according  to  Order,  proceeded  to  Bury 

take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  Corporation 

made by the  Lords  to the Bury Corporation  Bill.  1  ' 

The Lords' Amendments,  as far as the  Amend­
ment in  p.  35,  1.  17,  being  read  a  second  time, 
were agreed  to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  35,1.  17, leave 
out  ( "  local and "),  the  next  Amendment,  being 
read a second  time, was disagreed  to. 

3  r  2 







476 

4th—Qth 

October. 

1909. 

[No. 154. 

The  remaining  Lords'  Amendments,  being 

read  a second  time,  were agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  a  Committee  be  appointed  to 
draw  up Reasons to be  assigned to the  Lords  for 
disagreeing  to one of  the  Amendments  made  by 
their  Lordships  to the  Bill. 

And  the  Committee  was  nominated  of  Sir 

Francis  Layland-Barratt,  Mr.  Charles  Nichol­
son, Mr.  Robert Pearce,  Mr.  Robinson, and  Mr. 
Toulmin. 

Aud  they  are  to  withdraw  immediately.— 

(Mr.  Charles  Nicholson.) 

Ordered, That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read;  and ordered to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

third  of  the  total  number of  electors  voting  in 
such Election,  the  amount  of  any  deposit  made 
by  such  candidate  under  and  by  virtue  of  the 
Parliamentary  Elections  (Returning  Officers) 
Acts,  1875  and  1 885,  or  the  Parliamentary 
Elections  (Returning  Officers) (Scotland)  Acts, 
1878  and  1885:  And  the  same  was  ordered  to 
be  read  a  second  time  upon  Monday  the  18th 
day  of  this instant  October  ;  and to  be printed. 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved  itself  Finance  Bill, 

into  a Committee  on the Finance  Bill. 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Schedule  1. 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  50,  column  2,  to 
leave  out  Is.  10  to  14,  inclusive,  in  order  to 
insert the  words  "  Duty  specified  in  Scale  4."— 
(Mr.  Samuel Roberts.) 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Colonial  Report  No.  614 
(Bechuanaland Protectorate,  Report for 1908-9). 
Ordered, That the  said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Question  again  proposed,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "  subject," 
in  p.  50,  1.  12,  stand  part  of  the  Schedule,  as 
amended : 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Report. 

Colonial 
Reports 
(Annual.) 

Superannua­
tion  Act, 
1887. 

Bury 
Corporation 
Bill. 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Treasury  Minute,  dated  1st  October  1909, 
granting  a  retired  allowance  to  Mr.  James 
Smith,  Clerk,  Engineer-in-Chief's  Office,  Post 
Office, under  Section  2  of  the  Superannuation 
Act,  1887. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Charles  Nicholson  reported  from  the 
Committee  appointed  to  draw  up Reasons  to  be 
assigned  to the. Lords  for  disagreeing  to  one  of 
the  Amendments  made  by  their  Lordships  to 
the  Bury  Corporation  Bill;  That  they  had 
drawn  up a  Reason  accordingly,  which  they  had 
directed him to report to the House, as followeth  : 
The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made by  the  Lords  in  Clause 49,  p. 35,  1. 17,  to 
leave  out  the  words  "  local  and,"  for  the 
following  Reason,  viz.:—Because  it  is  advisable 
to  ensure  that  where  a  tramway  passes  through 
the  boundary  of  a  local  authority  which 
is 
not  a  road  authority  that  authority  should 
be  consulted  in  regard  to  the  works  referred 
to  in  the  Clause. 

The  said  Reason,  being  read  a  second  time, 

was agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  a Message  be sent to  the  Lords 
to  communicate  the  said  Reason  (with  the  Bill 
and Amendments) :  And that the  Clerk do  carry 
the  same. 

Message  f r om 
the  Lords. 

F/dgwave  and 
Hampstead 
Bailway  Bill. 

Diseases  of 
Animals  Bill 
[  Lords.] 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by 
one  of  their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Edgware  and 
Hampstead  Railway  Bill,  with  Amendments  ; 
to which  the Lords  desire the  concurrence  of this 
House. 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill,  intituled  An 
Act  to  provide 
for  the  payment  of  fees  to 
veterinary  surgeons  and  practitioners for  notifi­
cation  of  Diseases  of  Animals;  to  which  the 
Lords  desire the concurrence  of this  House. 

Parliamentary 
Elections 
(Returning 
Officers) 
Acts  (1875 
and  1885) 
Amendment 
Bill. 

B i ll  3 3 3. 

Mr. Edward Dunn,  supported  by  Mr.  Essex,
Mr.  Hazleton,  Mr.  Higham,  Mr.  O'Malley,  Mr. 
Thomas Frederick  Richards,  and  Mr.  Frederick 
Edwin  Smith,  presented  a  Bill  to  direct  the 
Returning  Officer  in  a  Parliamentary  Election 
to  repay  to  a  candidate  who has been  returned 
unopposed,  or  being  opposed  has  polled  one-

Question  put. 
The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers  for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

)  178 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

|  Mr.  Pike Pease  : 

Tellers for  the  ( Viscount  Valentia, 

1 Sir  Edward Strachey :  j 
1 
j  61. 
Another  Amendment proposed, in p.  50,  1. 12, 
column 2, after the word " premises," to insert the 
words "  as ascertained  in  the manner  directed  by 
section  thirty, subsection  one, and section  thirty­
eight."—(Mr.  Barnard.) 

Question  proposed, That  those  words be  there 

inserted:—Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 50,1.  12, 
column 2, to leave out  from the word  " premises  " 
to the end of  1. 14.—(Mr.  George Denison Faber.) 
Question  put,  That  the  words  proposed  to  be 
left out stand part of  the  Schedule,  as  amended. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the f Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

(Sir  Edward  Strachey , 


Tellers for  the f Earl  Winter tun, 


Noes, 

I Sir  William  Bull: 

1 
/ 178. 
j  67. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 50,  1. 28, 
at the  beginning,  to  insert the  words  "  In  Great 
Britain."—( Mr. Solicitor  General.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Captain  Norton, 

1 

Yeas, 

| Sir  Edward  Strachey :  J  


217. 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr.  Lonsdale, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Moore: 

) 
j 

69. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 50,1.  34, 
to leave  out from  the  word  "  than "  to  the  end 
of  the line, in order to  insert— 

30,000  and 

i than  50,000 

"  30,000 

& 
s. 
17  10 

20  0 

& 
s. 
11  10 
13  0.n 

—(Mr.  Gibbs.) 

Question put, That  the  words proposed  to  be 
left  out  stand part of  the  Schedule,  as  amended. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the J Captain  Norton, 

I  191 

Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Gibbs, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

| Sir Edward  Strachey :  j 
)
t Colonel  Hall  Walker :  j

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 50,1.  36, 

at the  end,  to insert  the  words— 



No. 156.]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

6th—1th October. 

477 

"  In  Ireland— 

6 

s. 

In  areas  which  are  not  urban 
areas, and in  urban  areas  with 
a  population  of 
than 
10,000 

less 

In  urban  areas  with  a  popula­

tion of  10,000 or  above  -

5  0 

3  10 

7  10 

4  0." 

—(Mr.  Solicitor  General.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 

Tellers for the  ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Whitley : 


Tellers for  the  j Mr.  Moore,  


Noes, 

|  Mr. Lonsdale  :  


Another  Amendment made.  


246. 

74. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p.  50,  1. 41, 
after the  words last inserted, to insert the words 
" I  n  the  case  of  the  borough  of  Wenlock  the 
sanitary  divisions  shall  be  the area  upon  which 
the  population  shall  be  calculated  and  the 
licence  based, instead of  the borough as a whole." 
— (Mr.  Henry.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

I  55. 

) 
J 

184. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Henry, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Stanier : 


Tellers for  the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Whitley: 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  51,  1. 7, 
at  the  end,  to  insert  the  words  "  Where  a 
retailer's  on-licence  for  wine  is  taken out  by  a 
person  who  is  the holder  of  a beerhouse  licence 
the duty  payable  on  the  retailer's  on-licence  for 
wine  shall  not  exceed  twenty-five  per  cent,  of 
the  duty  payable  on  the  beerhouse  licence."— 
(Viscount Castlereagli.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be  there 

inserted :—Amendment, by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Other  Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  51,  to 

leave  out Is.  47  to  50,  in  order to  insert— 

"  Not exceeding  & 10 

& 
Exceeding  10 and  not  exceeding  20 

& 

„ 

„ 

„ 

„ 

„ 

„ 

„ 

20 

30 

50 

75 

100 

250 

600 

-

„ 

„ 

„ 

„ 

„ 

„ 

30 

50 

75 

100 

250 

500 

-

&  s.  d. 
10  0  0 

-  11  10  0 

- H  0  0 
-  15  0  0 
-  16  0  0 

-  17  10  0 

-  19  0  0 

-  30  0  0 
-  50  0  0." 

—Mr.  Herbert Samuel.) 

Question,  That  the  words  proposed  to be left 
out  stand part of  the  Schedule, as amended, put, 
and  negatived. 

Question  proposed,  That those  words  be  there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed  to the proposed  Amend­
ment, in 1.1, to leave out the  first"  £10," in  order 
to insert " £ 5 . " - -(  Mr .Remnant.) 

Question  proposed,  That  "  £10  "  stand  part 
of  the  proposed  Amendment:—Amendment  to 
the  proposed  Amendment,  by leave,  withdrawn. 

Proposed  words there inserted.  

Other Amendments made.  

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 53,  1. 9, 


at the  end, to insert the  words-­

"  This  provision  shall  apply  to  premises, 

whatever  their  annual  value, if  they  are  struc­
turally  adapted  for  use  as  an hotel  and are bona 

VOL.  164. 

fide so used, and it is shown to the Commissioners 
that it  is  impracticable  to  obtain  a  reduction  of 
duty  in  respect of  the  premises  under  the  pro­
visions of  this Act  enabling  such  a reduction  to 
be  obtained  for  hotels  in  certain  cases, owing  to 
the fact  that  visitors  resort  to  the  place  where 
.the  premises  are  situated  only  during  certain 
seasons of the  year. 

In  such a case the  minimum  amount of  duty 
payable  shall  be  fifty  pounds  instead  of  two 
hundred  and  fifty  pounds." —  (Mr.  Herbert 
Samuel.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be there 

inserted: 

Amendment  proposed  to the proposed  Amend­
ment, at  the  end  of  1. 7, to insert the words "  or 
mainly  on  the occasions  of  fairs  or  markets."— 
(Mr.  Arkwright.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted  in the  proposed  Amendment. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Gretton, 

Yeas, 

|  Mr.  Renwick : 

Tellers  for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

69. 

|  ono 
f 

Noes, 

1 Mr.  Whitley: 
Another  Amendment  proposed  to  the  pro­
posed  Amendment,  in  1. 8,  to  leave out  the word 
"  fifty,"  in order to insert the words "  thirty-five." 
(Mr.  Arkwright.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  word  "  fifty"
stand  part  of  the  proposed  Amendment:— 
Amendment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  by 
leave,  withdrawn. 

Proposed  words  there inserted. 
Other  Amendments  made. 

Another  Amendment  proposed, in  p. 53,1.  18, 
to leave out  the words "  and to persons  bona fide 
using  the  premises." —  (Mr.  George  Denison 
Faber.) 

Question,  That  the words  proposed  to  be  left 
out stand  part of  the  Schedule,  as amended,  put, 
and  agreed  to. 

Other Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed, in p.  53,1.  24, 
to leave  out from the word  "  vessels "  to the  end 
of the paragraph.—(Mr.  John  Henderson.) 

Question  proposed, That  the word  "  or "  stand 

part of the  Schedule,  as amended: 

Thursday, 7th  October 1909 : 

Question  put,  and  agreed  to. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 53,1.  24 
after  the  word  "  or,"  to  insert  the  words  "  in 
England."—(Mr.  Herbert  Samuel.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Whitley : 

Tellers for  the j  Mr. Lamont,
( Mr.  Barnes : 

Noes, 

| 182. 
J  67. 

Other Amendments  made. 
Another Amendment  proposed, in  p.  54,1.  30, 
after the  second  word  " car,"  to  insert the words 
"in  which  passengers  are  supplied  with  meals." 
—(Mr.  Charles Roberts.) 

Question  proposed,  That  those words  be there 

inserted  : 

Amendment proposed  to the proposed  Amend­
ment, to  leave  out  the  word  "  are,"  in  order  to 
insert  the  words  "  can  be." —  (Mr.  Solicitor 
General.) 

Question,  That the  word  " a r e"  stand  part of 

the proposed  Amendment, put, and  negatived. 
3  p  3 



478 

6th—7th October. 

1909. 

[No. 156. 

Proposed  words  inserted 

in  the  proposed 

Amendment. 

Question  put, That  those words,  as amended,,

be there inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers  for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

1 Mr.  Whitley : 

Tellers for the  ( Earl  Winterton, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Ashley: 

202. 

48.

Another  Amendment proposed, in p.  54,  1. 32, 
at  the end, to  insert  the words  " Provided  that 
the  train  to which  the car  is attached  makes at 
least  one non-stop journey  of  over  thirty  miles." 
— (Mr.  Leif  Jones) 

Question, That those  words  be  there  inserted, 

put, and  negatived. 

Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 54,1. 32, 

at the end,  to insert the  words— 

" ( 3  )  For  the  purpose  of  giving  jurisdiction 
any proceedings for  an offence with  reference t*> 
the  sale  of  liquor  on  any  railway  restaurant 
car may  be  heard  and determined  by  any  court 
of  summary  jurisdiction  through  whose  juris­
diction  such  car  passed  in  the  course  of  the 
journey  during^ which  the  offence  is  alleged  to 
have  been  committed."—(Mr.  Henry  Wilson.) 

Question,  That  those words  be  there inserted, 

put, and  negatived. 

Another  Amendment  made. 
Question  put, That  the  Schedule, as amended, 

be  the First  Schedule  to  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the J Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Whitley  : 

Tellers  for the  ( Viscount  Valentia, 
( Mr.  Henry  Forster : 

Noes, 

154.

49.

Schedule  2. 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  55,  to  leave  out 

Is.  14 to  30, inclusive, in order  to  insert— 

Exceeds 

£ 
500  and  does  not  exceec 

.750 

1,000 

2,000 

3,000 

4,000 

5,000 

6,000 

7,000 

8,500 

10,000 

12,500 

15,000 

17,500 

20,000 

25,000 

30,000 

35,000 

,  . 

40,000 

47,500 

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70,000. 

77,500 

85,000 

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£ 
750 

1,000 

2,000 

3,000 

4,000 

5,000 

6,000 

7,000 

8,500 

10,000 

12,500 

15,000 

17,500 

20,000 

25,000 

30,000 

35,000 

40,000 

47,500 

55,000 

62,500 

70,000 

77,500 

85,000 

92,500 

100,000 

-

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-

-

-

-

-

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74 
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8.' 

— (Major  Dunne.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  of  1. 14 
stand  part  of  the  Schedule:—Amendment,  by
leave,  withdrawn. 

Question  put,  That  the  Schedule  be  the 

Second  Schedule  to the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the j  Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

I Mr.  Whitley : 

Tellers for  the  ( Viscount  Valentia, 
1 Mr.  Henry Forster : 

Noes, 

157.

45.

Schedule  3 agreed  to. 
Schedule  4. 
Question  put, That  the Schedule be the Fourth 

Schedule  to  the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas,

(  Mr.~ ~   Whitley :~ 

Tellers for the  j Viscount  Valentia,  


Noes, 

I Mr.  Henry Forster : 

141.

71.

Schedule  5. 
Amendments  made. 
Another  Amendment  proposed,  in p. 57,  1. 34, 

at the  end, to insert the  words— 

"  (4)  To  a  motor  car  used  by  a  veterinary 
surgeon  for  the  purposes  of  his  profession."— 
(Mr.  Fell.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Fell, 

Yeas, 

( Sir  William Bull 

Tellers  for the J Captain  Norton, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Whitley : 

53.

143.

Schedule,  as amended,  agreed  to. 
Schedule  6. 
An  Amendment  made. 
Question  put, That  the  Schedule,  as amended 

be  the  Sixth  Schedule  to the  Bill. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the J Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Whitley: 
Tellers  for the j  Sir  Frederick Banbury, | 
 39.

Noes 

!  Sir  William Bull : 


) 
1 

150.

Bill,  as amended, to be  reported.  


Mr.  Deputy  Speaker resumed  the  Chair ; and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,
That the  Committee  had  gone  through  the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Bill  3 3 4, 

Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  upon 
Tuesday  the  19th day of  this  instant  October  ; 
and  be  printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being read, for  taking  Development 
into  consideration  the  Development  and  R o a d ^ ^  ^ 
Improvement  Funds  Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Funds  Bill. 
Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Irade  Boards 

into consideration  the Amendments  made by  the  Bil1, 
Lords  to  the  Trade  Boards  Bill  ; 

Ordered, That the said  Amendments  be  taken 

into consideration  this  day. 

The  Local  Registration  of  Title  (Ireland)  Local 

Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second  ®£e|'®tjgatl0n 
time. 

(Ireland)  BilL 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  this  day. 
—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Prisons 
Second  Reading  of  the  Prisons  (Scotland)  Bill (Scotland) 
[Lords]; 

Bill  [ X ^ f c] 

' 





No. 156.1  9  E n w. 

V I I. 

Qth—lth  October. 

479 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read 

second  time 

this  day. 

Summary 
Jurisdiction 
(Scotland) 
Act,  1908,  

Amendment 
[Lords.] 
Bill 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Beading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction 
(Scotland)  Act,  1908, Amendment  Bill  [.Lords]; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second  time  


this day. 

Expiring Laws   The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Continuance  Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con-
B'lh 

tinuance  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second  time 

this  day. 

Health  Resorts  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking 
and  Watering  into  consideration 
the  Health  Resorts  and 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Watering  Places  (Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in 

the  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

County 
Councils 

Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

Message  from  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
the  Lords.  Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by 

one  of  their Clerks,  as folioweth : 

The  Lords  do  not  insist  on the  Amendment 
Bury 
Corporation  made  by  their  Lordships  to the  Bury  Corpora-
Bill. 

tion  Bill to  which  this  House hath  disagreed. 

Whereupon  Mr. Deputy  Speaker  adjourned 
the  House without Question  put, pursuant 
to  the  Order  of  the  House  of  the 20th 
day  of  August  last, 
it  being  then  five 
minutes  after  Two  of  the  clock  on 
Thursday  morning, till  this day. 

[No.  157.] 

Thursday,  7th October 1909. 

The House  met  at a quarter of  an  hour 
before  Three  of the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Edgware and  r p H  E  House,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the 
X  House  of  the  2nd  day  of  August  last, 
Railway  Bill.  proceeded  to  take into  consideration  the  Amend­
ments  made  by  the  Lords to  the  Edgware  and 
Hampstead  Railway  Bill;  and  the  same  were 
twice  read, and  agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry  the Bill  to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint  them  that this  House 
hath agreed  to  the  Amendments  made by  their 
Lordships. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read ;  and ordered  to lie  upon the  Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth  

Report. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey presented,  by  His 
Treaty  Series 
(No.  24,1909.)  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Accession  of 
Servia  to  the  Industrial  Property  Convention 
of  1883,  as  modified  by  the  additional  Act  of 
1900.  10th  October  1909. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Discipline  Act,  1884,  showing  A m e n d m e n t  s 
proposed  to  be  effected  by  the  Naval  Discipline 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr. Birrell  presented,  pursuant  to  the  direc-  General 

tions of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Order 
A c  f 
in  Council  approving  of  Regulations  made  by island  ° ' 
the  General  Prisons  Board  for  Ireland  with  Prevention  of 
respect  to  Borstal  Institutions  for  Males  in 
Ireland. 

Act> 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Burns  presented,  pursuant  to  the  direc-  Local 

tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Government 
1 QQQ 

A  » 

A 

Orders made by  the  various  County  and  County 
Borough  Councils in  England  and Wales  under 
Sections  57  and  59  of  the  Local  Government 
Act,  1888,  as  confirmed  by  the  Local  Govern­
ment Board. 

' 

Copy  of  (1)  Regulation  as  to  the  restriction  Motor  Car 

of  the  driving  of  Motor  Cars on part  of  a  cer- Acta­
tain highway  situate  within  the  Urban  District 
of  Nevvhaven,  in  the  County  of  East  Sussex, 
made  by  the  Local  Government  Board  under 
Section  6  of  the  Act  of  1896  and  Section  8 of 
the  Act  of  1903;  (2)  Regulation  as  to  the 
registration  of  Motor  Cars  made by  the  Local 
Government  Board  under  Section  6 of  the  Act 
of  1896  and  Section  7  of  the  Act  of  1903. 
London  County.  For  assigning  a  fifth  Index 
Mark  to  the  London  County  Council; 
(3) 
Order made  under Section  6 of  the  Act  of  1896, 
as  amended  by  the  Act  of  1903,  for  partially 
rescinding  the  Motor  Cars  (Use  and  Construc­
tion)  Order,  1904. 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Local  Govern-  Public  Health 

ment Board  under  the  Public  Health  (Regula­
tions  as  to  Food)  Act,  1907, for amending  the Act, 1907. 
Public  Health 
1908. 

(Foreign  Meat)  Regulations ? 

Ordered, That  the said  Papers  do lie upon  the  


Table. 


Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message from 

Message  had  been  brought from  the  Lords  by  the  Lords, 
one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  passed  a  Bill, intituled  An  Colinton 
Act  to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Tramvva.ys 
Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,   confirmation 
1899, relating  to  Colinton  Tramways  ;  to  which  Bill [Lords.] 
the  Lords  desire the concurrence  of  this  House. 

The  Colinton  Tramways  Order  Confirmation  Colinton 
Bill  [Lards] was read  the first time, and ordered  Tramways 
(under  Section  9  of  the  Private  Legislation  confirmation 
Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899)  to  be  read  a Bill [Lords.] 
jjiji 335. 
second time to-morrow;  and  to be printed. 

Mr.  MlKenna,  supported  bv  Mr.  Secretary  Naval 
Haldane  and  Dr.  Macnamara,  presented  a  Bill  Discipline 
to  enable  the  punishment  of  detention  to  be 
substituted  for the  punishment  of  imprisonment  Bill 335. 
for offences against  Naval  Discipline  under  the 
Naval  Discipline  A c t  :  And  the  same  was 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  to-morrow; 
and to  be  printed. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  Development 

into  consideration  the Development  and  Road  and  Road 
Improvement  Funds  Bill,  as  amended  in  the Jj^fgSJf14' 
Standing  Committee; 

Mr.  M'Kenna  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Nayy 
(Discipline.)  Command,—Copy  of  Provisions  of  the  Naval 
Discipline  Act,  1866,  as  amended  by  the  Naval 

VOL.   164. 

And  a Motion being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  put,  That  the Bill  be  recommitted  to  the 
Standing  Committee  in  respect  of  Clause 1-— 
•,
(Sir  Frederick Banbury) 

3 v  4 

1th  October. 

1909. 

[No. 157. 

480 

The  House  divided. 

J 
\ 
J 

The  Yeas  to  the  R i g h t; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 

Tellers for thej Sir  Frederick Banbury,  \  ^q

IMr.  Gretton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the (Captain  Norton.

Noes, 

>  Mr.  Whitley:
So  it passed  in  the  Negative. 
Then  the  House  proceeded  to  take  the  Bill 

into  consideration. 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made to 
the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1. 10,  by  leaving  out from the 
word  "department"  to  the  word  "either,"  in 
1. 12.—(Mr. Chaplin.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  " t o"  stand  part  of  the  Bill  :—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed to  be made 
to the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1. 10,  by  inserting,  after  the 
word  "to,"  the  words  "the  Light  Railway 
Commissioners  or."—(Mr.  Bridgeman.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words be there  inserted  in  the  Bill  :—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Then  Amendments  were made  to the  Bill. 
Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1.  11,  by  leaving  out  the 
words  "not  trading for  profit."—(Mr.  Fell.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words  proposed  to be  left out  stand  part  of  the 
Bill:—The  said  proposed  Amendment was, with 
leave  of  the House,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment was  proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1.  12,  by  leaving  out  the 
words  "  either  by  way of  free  grant  or."—(Sir 
Henry  Craik.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words  "  either  by  way  o f  "  stand  part  of  the 
Bill:—The  said  proposed Amendment  was, with 
leave of  the  House,  withdrawn. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p.  1,  1. 15,  by  inserting  at the  end 
thereof the  words  "  not  being  purposes  towards 
which  grants  may  now  be  made under  any  Act 
of  Parliament."—(Sir  Henry  Craih.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be there  inserted  in  the  Bill  :—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment  was proposed to  be  made 
to the  Bill, in p.  1,  1. 21,  by  inserting,  after  the 
word  "research,"  the  words  "the  training  of 
teachers."—(Sir  Francis Channing.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That those 
words  be  there  inserted  in  the Bill  :—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the  Bill,  in p.  1,1.  21, by  inserting,  after  the 
word  " research,"  the  words  "  building  and 
equipping  farm  institutes,  winter  schools,  and 
rural  secondary  schools."—(Sir  Francis  Chan­
ning.) 

And  the  Question  being proposed,  That those 
words  be there  inserted  in  the  Bill: —The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1. 22,  by  inserting,  after  the 
words last inserted, the words  " the  improvement 
of  live  stock  and poultry."—(Mr.  Chaplin.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be there  inserted  in  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

A nother  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the Bill,  in  p.  1,  1.  22,  by  inserting,  after the 
words  last  inserted,  the  words  "  the  improve­
ments  of  dairy  farming  and  the  making  of 
butter."—(Mr. Chaplin.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That those 
words  be  there  inserted  in  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to the  Bill,  in  p.  1,1.  23,  by  inserting, after  the 
word  "  produce,"  the  words  "and  experiments." 
— (Mr. Stanier.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be there inserted  in  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to the  Bill, in  p.  1,  1. 23,  by  inserting,  after  the 
word  "  produce,"  the  words  "  the  development 
of agricultural  credit."—(Mr.  Stanier.) 

And  the Question being put, 'That those  words 
be  there  inserted in  the Bill  :—It  passed  in  the 
Negative. 

Another Amendment  was proposed to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1.  23,  by  leaving  out  the 
words  "  and  the  extension  of  the  provision  of," 
and  inserting  the  words  "  encouragement  by 
experimental  holdings  or  otherwise  of  profitable 
methods  of  equipping  and  working" —  (Sir 
Francis  Chaining),—instead  thereof. 

And the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed to  be  left out  stand  part of  the  Bill  :— 
It was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Another Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the Bill,  in p.  1,  1. 26, by  inserting  at the end 
thereof  the  words— 

"  (b)  Forestry  (including  the  purchase  and 
planting of  land, the conducting of  iuquiries, 
experiments,  and  research  for  the  purpose 
of  promoting  forestry  and  the  teaching  of 
methods of  afforestation." 

—(Mr.  Solicitor  General.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 

words  be  there  inserted  in the  Bill; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  said  proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill,  in 
1.  1,  by  leaving  out  the  words  "  including  the 
purchase  and  planting  of  land."—(Mr.  Chaplin.) 
And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part of  the  said 
proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill:  —  It  was 
resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill, 
in  p.  1,  1.  2,  by  inserting,  after  the  word 
"  research,"  the  words  "  within  the  United 
Kingdom.''—(Sir  Frederick Banbury.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted  in  the  said  proposed 
Amendment  to  the  Bill:—The  Amendment  to 
the  said  proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill  was, 
with leave  of  the  House,  withdrawn. 

 
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481 

And the Question being put, That the words— 
"  (b)  Forestry  (including  the  purchase  and 
planting of land, the conducting of  inquiries, 
experiments,  and  research for  the  purpose 
of  promoting  forestry  and  the  teaching  of 
methods of  afforestation  " 

Friday,  8th  October 1909  : 

And  the  Question  being  put:—It  passed  in 

the  Negative. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
"  inland  navigations "  be  there  inserted  in  the 
Bill:—It  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

be  there  inserted  in  the  Bill:— It  was resolved 
in the Affirmative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the Bill,  in p.  1,  1.  26,  by  inserting, after  the 
words last inserted,  the  words— 

"  (c)  The  provision and improvement  of water 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  2,  by  leaving  out  Is.  8 and 9. 
—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the words 
proposed  to be left  out, to the  word "  economic," 
in  1. 8, stand  part of  the  Bill; 

supplies  in rural  districts." 

—(Mr.  Leif  Jones.) 

And the Question being  put, That those words 
be there inserted  in  the Bill:—It  passed  in  the 
Negative. 

Another Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to  the Bill, in p.  1,  1.  26,  by  inserting,  after  the 
words last inserted,  the  words— 

"  (c)  The  treatment  of  diseases  of  animals." 

—(Mr.  Stanier.) 

And  the  Question  being  put, That those words 

be there inserted  in  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to  the  Right;  

The  Noes to  the  Left.  

Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Stanier,  

( Mr.  Renton : 


Yeas, 

Tellers for  the j  Captain  Norton,  


Noes, 

|  Mr.  Whitley  :  


39. 

145. 

So  it  passed  in  the  Negative.  

Another  Amendment  was proposed to be made 

to  the  Bill,  in  p.  2,  1.  1,  by  leaving  out  para­
graph (c).—(Sir  Frederick Banbury.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 

"  the "  stand part of the  Bill; 

The  House,divided.  

The  Yeas to  the  Right;  

The  Noes to the  Left.  

Tellers  for the ("Captain  Norton,  


127. 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

/ 
(Mr.  Whitley: 
Tellers for the fSir  Frederick  Banbury,  \ 
J 

(Mr.  Fell: 
So  it was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  2,  1.  2 , by  leaving  out  para­
graph  (d).—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

23. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  words 
"  The  general  improvement  of  rural  transport  " 
stand part of  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas to  the  Right;  

The  Noes  to the  Left.  

Tellers for  the/Captain  Norton,


Yeas, 

IMr.  Whitley : 

}  121. 

Tellers for  the/Sir  Frederick Banbury,  1 

Noes, 

\ Viscount Morpeth: 

J  10. 

So it  was resolved  in  the Affirmative 
Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the Bill,  in p.  2,1.  6, by  leaving  out  the word 
"  canals,"  and  inserting  the  words  " inland 
navigations "—(Mr.  Solicitor  General),—instead 
thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words  proposed  to  be left out  stand  part of  the 
Bill: 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after Twelve  of  the  clock  on Friday  morning ;  • 

VOL.  164. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to.the  Left. 
Tellers for the/Captain  Norton, 

\  Q1 
|  Vlm 
IMr.  Whitley : 
Tellers for the (Sir  Frederick  Banbury, \  gg

Yeas, 

Noes, 

\Lord  Robert  Cecil: 

J 

So  it was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill, in p.  2,1.  9, by  inserting  at  the  end 
thereof  the words "  Provided  that  advances may 
be  made  under  this  section  to  an  association  of 
persons  or  a  company  for  the  purpose  of  a light 
railway  or  harbour,  notwithstanding  that  such 
association  of  persons  or company  may  trade  for 
profit."—(Mr.  Solicitor .General.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there inserted  in  the Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  2,  1.  11,  by  leaving  out  the 
words "  be  made  to the Treasury,"  and inserting 
the  words  "  shall, if  the  applicant  is  a  Govern­
ment  Department,  be  made  to  the  Develop­
ment  Commissioners"—(Mr.  Chaplin),—instead 
thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed  to  be  left out  stand  part of the 
Bill:—The  said proposed  Amendment  was, with 
leave  of  the  House,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the Bill,  in  p.  2,  1. 12, by  inserting  at the end 
thereof  the  words  "which  regulation  shall  not 
have effect until they have lain for  one month  on 
the Table of  both  Houses of  Parliament."—(Mr. 
Walter  Long.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  those 
words  be  there inserted  in  the Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  was proposed  to  be made 
to the Bill, in p.  2,  1. 12, by  inserting  at the  end 
thereof  the  words  "  No  advance  shall  be made 
for  any  purpose  which  might  be  carried  out 
under  the provisions  of  any  other  statute  upon 
any  terms  or  conditions  different  from  those 
contained  in such statute  except  for  some special 
reason, which  shall be stated  in the annual report 
of  the  Development  Commissioners."  —  (Lord 
Robert Cecil.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 

words be  there  inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  said  proposed  Amendment  was amended, 
in  1.  2,  by  leaving  out  the  words  "  any  other 
statute,"  and  inserting  the  words  "  the  Small 
Holdings  and  Allotments  Act,  1908,"  instead 
thereof;  and  in  1. 3, by  leaving  out  the  word 
"  such,"  and 
inserting  the  word  "  that"  — 
(Mr.  Solicitor  General),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the words 
"  No  advance  shall  be  made  for  any  purpose 
which might  be carried  out  under the provisions 

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7th—Sth  October. 

1909. 

[No. 157. 

of  the  Small  Holdings  and  Allotments  Act, 
1908,  upon  any  terms  or  conditions  different 
from  those  contained  in  that  statute except  for 
some  special  reason,  which  shall  be  stated  in 
the  annual  report  of  the  Development  Com­
missioners "  be  there  inserted  in the  Bill:—It 
was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Ordered,  That  the  further  consideration  of 
the Bill, as amended  in the  Standing Committee, 
be now  adjourned.—(Mr.  Solicitor  General.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
further 

Standing  Committee,  be  taken 
consideration  this  day. 

into 

Trade  Boards 
Bill. 

The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made 
by  the  Lords  to  the  Trade  Boards  Bill  ;  and 
the  same were twice read, and agreed  to. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

Prisons 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Scotland) 
Bill  [Lords.]  Second  Reading  of  the  Prisons (Scotland)  Bill 

[.Lords] ; 

Ordered, That  the"Bill  be  read  a second  time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Summary 
Jurisdiction  Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction 
(Scotland) 
(Scotland)  Act, 1908, Amendment  Bill  [Lords] ; 
Act,  1908, 
Amendment 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 
[Lords.] 
Bill 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort- C°u?clls 
„ „  „  Dill,' 
Mortgagei 
gages  B i l l;  
Bill. 

. .. 

-J 

.

Ordered, That the  Bill be  read  a  second  time 

this  day. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant  

to the Order of  the  House of  the  20th day 

of  August  last,  it  being  then  seven 
minutes after  One of  the clock  on  Friday  

morning, till  this day. 


[No.  158.] 

Friday,  8th  October  1909. 
The  House  met  at  Twelve of the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

TH E  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Colinton 

Second  Reading  of  the  Colinton  Tramways ^mways 

Order  Confirmation  Bill  [Lords'] ; 

Confirmation 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time  B m  [Lords.] 

upon  Monday  the  18th  day  of  this  instant 
October. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and  Public 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon  the  Table. 

v 

Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Report. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented, by  His  Trade  Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  and  (Annual 
Series.) 
Consular Reports,  Annual  Series,  No.  4368. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

The  Order  of  the day  being  read,  for  taking 
London 
Elections  Bill.  i n t  Q  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill 

Table. 

(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee)  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Colonial 
Command,—Copy  of  Colonial  Report  No.  615  Beports 
(Bahamas,  Report for  1908-9). 

(Annual.) 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie upon  the 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 

Places  of 
Worship 
STNO! 8!)  (Enfranchisement)  (No.   2)  Bill ; 
Bil1­

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

this day. 

Table. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented, —  Return  to  an  Public 
Order,  dated  the  21st  day  of  September  last,  Revenue 
for  a Return  relative  to  Public  Revenue  (Inter-  exception.) 
ception).

2 9 2­

Bishopric of  . 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for taking 
Sheffield Bill,  into consideration the Bishopric  of  Sheffield Bill, 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

as amended  in the  Standing  Committee  ; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken 

into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Local 
^ r a t i o  n  Committee  on  the  Local  Registration  of  Title 
of  Title  
/ t 
(Ireland)  Bill.  (Ireland)  Bill; 

-o-ii 

i 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the said  Committee. 

Expiring  Laws  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
•Continuance  Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con-
Bill. 

tinuance  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this  day. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  pursuant  to  Public  Health 

the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament.—Copy  (Regulations 
of the Public  Health (Foreign Meat)  Amending 
Regulations  (Scotland),  1909, under  the  Public 
Health  (Regulations as to  Food)  Act,  1907. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  there be laid before this House  Finance  Bill, 

a  Copy  of  Part  I.  of  the  Finance  Bill,  as 
proposed  to  be  amended  by  His  Majesty's 
Government,—(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

Resolved, That  this  House,  at  its  rising  this  Adjournment, 

day, do  adjourn  till  Monday  the  18th  day  of 
this instant October.—(Captain  Norton.) 

Health  Resorts  The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
and  Watering  take  into  consideration  the  Health  Resorts  and 
^Ireland)  Bill.  Watering  Places  ( Ireland)  Bill,  as  amended  in 

the  Committee. 

The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Development 

take into further consideration  the Development  ™d  Eoad 
and  Road  Improvement  Funds  Bill,  as amended  Funds  Bill, 
in  the  Standing  Committee. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  now  read  the third 
time :—The  Bill was accordingly  read  the  third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and  desire their  concurrence. 

Another  Amendment  was made to the  Bill. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill, in p.  2,1.  14, by  inserting, after the 
word 3"Act,"  the  words  "after  estimates  have 
been submitted  showing the detailed  expenditure 

 




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483 

under  the  scheme  or  schemes  which  it  is  pro­
posed to  aid."—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  the Question being put, That those words 
be  there inserted  in  the  Bill:—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to  be made 

to  the  Bill,  in  p. 2,  1. 19, by  leaving  out  para­
graph  (b).—(Lord  Balcarres.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 

proposed  to  be left out stand part of the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Whitley : 

101. 

Tellers for the  ( Sir  Frederick Banbury, ) 

„„ 

Noes, 

1  Mr.  Staveley-Hill: 

J 

' 

So  it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p.  2,  1. 26, by  inserting  at the end 
thereof  the  words— 

"  (2)   No  advance  shall  be  made  by  the 
Treasury  in  any  year  for  purposes  relating 
exclusively  to  England,  Scotland,  or  Ireland 
which  will  exceed  in  the case  of  England  eighty 
per  cent.,  in  the  case  of  Scotland  eleven  per 
cent., and  in  the case  of  Ireland  nine  per  cent, 
of  the  total  amount advanced  during  that  year 
under this Part  of  this Act."—(Mr.  Chaplin.) 

And  the Question  being put, That those words 

be there inserted in the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the  I Viscount  Valentia, 

]  ^g 

Tellers for the  ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

1 Mr.  Whitley: 

I  148 
J 
( 
( Lord  Edmund Talbot:  ) 

^ 

Tellers for  the  f Viscount  Valentia, 

So it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  3,  1.  19,  by  leaving  out  the 
word  "  ten,"  and  inserting  the  word  "  twenty  " 
—(Sir  Frederick Banbury), —instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  "  ten "  stand  part of  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  3,  1.  20,  by  leaving  out  the 
word "  second," and inserting  the  word  "  tenth  " 
—(Sir  Frederick Banbury),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  "  second "  stand  part  of  the  Bill  : —  The 
said proposed  Amendment was, with leave of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the Bill,  in  p. 3,1.  30,  by  inserting  at the end 
thereof  the  words  " No  Commissioner  so  paid 
shall  be  capable  of  sitting  in  the  House  of 
Commons during  the  tenure  of  his office."—(Sir 
William  Anson.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words be  there  inserted  in  the  Bill  :—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment  was proposed  to  be made 

to  the  Bill,  in  p.  4,  1. 20,  by  leaving  out  sub­
section  (3).—(Sir  William Anson.) 

125. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  words 
proposed  to  be left out  stand part  of  the  Bill:— 
It  was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 

Yeas, 

|  Mr.  Henry  Forster :  J 

Tellers for  the j  Captain Norton, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Whitley : 

So  it  passed  in  the  Negative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

BUI. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the Bill,  in  p. 3,1.  10, by  inserting  at  the  end 
thereof  the words— 

"  (6)  No  advance  shall  be  made  to  a  public 
authority (other than a Government Department), 
university,  college,  institution,  or  association 
of  persons,  or  company,  unless  such  public 
authority,  university,  college,  or  association  of 
persons,  or company  is prepared  to devote  to  the 
purpose  for  which  the  advance  is  made  a  sum 
of  money  out of  its own funds  equivalent  to  the 
advance."—(Mr.  Cecil Harmsworth.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there inserted  in  the  Bill  :—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  3,  1.  11,  by  leaving  out  the 
words  "  there  shall  be established  a Commission 
consisting  of,"  and 
inserting  the  words  "  it 
shall  be  lawful for  His  Majesty  and  His  suc­
cessors,  by  Warrant  under  the  Sign  Manual, 
to  appoint  "  —  (Sir  William  Anson),—instead 
thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the words 

proposed  to  be left out stand  part of  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left.  


VOL.  164.  


Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to the  Bill,  in p. 4,1.  22, by  inserting  at  the  end 
thereof  the  words— 

"  (4)  The  Commissioners  may  also  frame 
schemes  with  respect  to  any  of  the  matters  for 
which  advances may  be  made under  this Part  of 
this  Act  with  a  view  to  their  adoption  by  a 
Government  Department  or other  body  or  per­
sons  to  whom  an  advance  may  be  made."—(Mr. 
Keir  Hardie.) 

And  the Question  being put, That those  words 

be  there  inserted  in  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the  ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

[ Mr.  Whitley : 

Tellers for  the  ( Viscount  Valentia, 

| 
|  Lord  Edmund Talbot:  ) 

Noes, 

147, 

32. 

So it  was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  5,  1.  28,  by  leaving  out  the 
second  word  "  or."—(Mr.  M'Arthur.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
second  word  "  or "  stand part  of  the  Bill:—The 
said  proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of 
the  House,  withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

3  Q  2 

484 

8 th  October. 

1909. 

[No. 158. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to the  Bill,  in p. 5,1. 38, by  inserting  at the  end 
thereof  the words  "  including  water  supplies for 
agricultural  purposes."—(Mr. Cullinan.) 

And  the Question being  put, That those words 
be there inserted  in  the Bill:—It  passed in the. 
Negative. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to the Bill, in p.  6,1.  7, by  leaving  out  the word 
"  Treasury,"  and  inserting  the  words  "  Local 
Government  Board "  —  (Viscount  Morpeth),—
instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 
"  Treasury "  stand  part  of  the  Bill:  —  It  was 
resolved  in the  Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p. 6,  1. 7, by leaving  out the words 
"  such number of," and inserting the word " five " 
—(Sir  Frederick Banbury),—instead  thereof. 

Tellers for  the  ( Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

1 Mr.  Whitley : 

Tellers  for  the  ( Lord  Robert  Cecil, 
\ Viscount  Morpeth: 

Noes, 

qR

) 
j 
I  20 
) 

So it was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the  Bill,  in p.  6,1.  27, by  inserting  at  the end 
thereof  the  words— 

"  (c)  to make advances  to highway  authorities 
to  purchase, or  take  over  on  terms  to  be 
agreed  on,  existing  bridges,  not  being  at 
present  county  bridges,  and  to  maintain, 
repair,  and  improve  any  bridges  so  pur­
chased  or taken  over." 

—(Mr. Renton.) 

And  the Question  being  put, That those words 
be  there  inserted  in  the  Bill:—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 

Bill. 

proposed  to  be left out stand part of  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Bight; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the/Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

}  1Q­
j 
Tellers  for the/ Sir Frederick Banbury,  1 
J 
(Mr.  Bowles-. 

I Mr.  Whitley: 

Noes, 

So  it  was  resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment "Was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p.  6,  1. 9, by  inserting  at  the  end 
thereof  the  words  " at  least  one-third  of  the 
members  of  such  Board  shall  be  members  of 
highway  authorities."—(Mr.  Barnard.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted  in  the  Bill  :—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Amother Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  6,  1.  22,  by  leaving  out  the 
word  " Treasury,"  and 
the  words 
"  Local  Government  Board "—(Mr.  Chaplin),—
instead  thereof. 

inserting 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  word 
"  Treasury "  stand  part  of  the  Bill:  —   It  was 
resolved  in the  Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 6,1.  24, by  inserting,  after  the 
word  "  roads,"  the  words  "  and  the  lioad  Board 
shall  have  power  to  make  advances  to  the 
highway  authorities  for  the  increased  cost  of 
maintenance  due to  the new  roads."—(Viscount 
Morpeth.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there inserted  in  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 

to  the  Bill,  in  p.  6,1.  26, by  leaving  out  para­
graph  (b).—(Lord  Robert  Cecil.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the words 
.proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  second  word 
"  and,"  in  p.  6,1. 26, stand part of  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 

Another Amendment was  proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  6,  1. 33, by  inserting  at  the end 
thereof the  words "  For  the purposes of  this Part 
of  this Act the expression' improvement of  roads' 
includes  the widening  of  any  road,  the  cutting 
off the corners of any road where  land is required 
to be  purchased  for  that  purpose, the  levelling 
of  roads, the treatment of  a road  for  mitigating 
the  nuisance  of  dust, and the doing of any  other 
work  in respect of  roads beyond  ordinary repairs 
essential  to  placing  a  road  in a proper  state  of 
repair;  and  the  expression  'roads'  includes 
bridges, viaducts, and subways."—(Mr.  Solicitor 
General.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 

words be there inserted  in the  Bill; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to be  made  to 
the said proposed Amendment  to the Bill, in  1. 3, 
by inserting, after the word  " purpose," the words 
"  the levelling  of  hedges  at  the  corners  of  roads 
or  elsewhere  to  such  an  extent  that  they  shall 
not  obstruct  the view  of  approaching  traffic." — 
(Mr.  Verney.) 

And  the  Question  being put, That those words 

be  there  inserted  in the  said  proposed  Amend­
ment to  the Bill:—It  passed  in the  Negative. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  words 
"  For  the purposes  of  this  Part of  this Act  the 
expression  ' improvement  of  roads ' includes the 
widening  of any  road, the cutting  off the  corners 
of  any  road,  where  land 
is  required  to  be 
for  that  purpose,  the  levelling  of 
purchased 
roads,  the  treatment  of  a  road  for  mitigating 
the  nuisance  of  dust,  and the  doing  of  any  other 
work  in  respect of  roads beyond  ordinary  repairs 
essential  to  placing  a road  in a  proper  state  of 
repair;  and  the  expression  ' roads'  includes 
bridges, viaducts,  and  subways "  be  inserted  in 
p. 6,  at the end of  1. 33 :—It  was resolved  in the 
Affirmative. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to the Bill, in  p.  6,1.  33, by  inserting, after  the 
words  last inserted,  the  words— 

"  (3)  In  making  advances  to  a  highway 
authority  towards  the  execution  of  any  work 
under this Part  of  this Act  regard  shall  be had, 
so far  as is reasonably practicable, to  the  amount 
of  the  proceeds  forming  part  of  the  road  im­
provement  grant  under  the  Finance  Act,  1909, 
collected in the area of  such  highway authority." 
—(Mr.  Rupert Guinness.) 

And  the Question  being  put, That  those words 
be  there inserted  in the  Bill:—It  passed  in  the 
Negative. 

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8th  October. 

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Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 7,1. 5, by  inserting, after  the 
word  "  shall,"  the  words  "  subject  to  the  pro­
visions of this section."—(Mr.  Berridge.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there inserted  in  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the Bill,  in  p.  7, by inserting, after  the  words 
last inserted, the words "  at the cost  of  the  Road 
Board."—(Mr.  Verney.) 

And  the Question  being  put, That those words 
be  there  inserted  in the  Bill  :—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p. 8,1.  3, by  leaving  out  from the 
word  "  purpose "  to  the end of  subsection  (1)  of 
Clause  11.—(Viscount  Morpeth.) 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  word 

"  and "  stand  part of  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the (Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Whitley.

Tellers for the/Viscount  Morpeth, 

Noes, 

IMr.Bowles-. 

} 87. 
\  14. 
J 

So it  was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  8,  1.  4,  by  leaving  out  the 
words  "  two hundred  and."—(Mr. Chaplin.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to be left out stand part of  the  Bill: — 
It  was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p.  10,1.  17, by  leaving  out  the 
word "  approving."—(Lord  Robert Cecil.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  "  approving "  stand part of the  Bill:—The 
said  proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of 
the  House,  withdrawn. 

Another Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p.  10,1.  21,  by  inserting  at  the 
end  thereof 
the  words  "  Provided  that  this 
section  shall  not  apply  to  any  recommendation 
by  the  Development  Commissioners,  or  to  the 
making of  any  advances by  the Road  Board."— 
(Lord  Robert  Cecil.) 

And  the  Question  being put, That  those words 
be there  inserted  in  the  Bill:—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

A  Schedule—  (Mr.  Solicitor  General)— was 
brought  up, and read  the first and second  time. 
Then  an  Amendment  was  made  to  the  pro­

posed  Schedule. 

Another Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to  the  proposed  Schedule,  in  1. 12, by  leaving 
out  the words  "  Chief Justice,"  and inserting  the 
word  "Lieutenant"—(Mr.  Cullinan),— instead 
thereof. 

VOL.  164. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  words 
proposed  to  be 
left  out  stand  part  of  the 
proposed  Schedule:  — It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

And  the  Schedule,  as  amended, was  added  to 

the  Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be now  read  the  third 
time  :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and passed. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire  their  concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Naval 
Second  Reading  of  the  Naval  Discipline  Bill;  Discipline 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 
instant 

upon  Monday  the  18th  day  of  this 
October. 

The  Prisons  (Scotland)  Bill 

[Lords]  was,   Prisons 

according  to  Order, read  a second  time.  " 

° 

(®™tP1<Jnd)
Bill  [Lords.  ]

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of the whole  House  for  Monday  the 
18th  day of  this  instant  October.—(The  Lord 
Advocate.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Summary 
Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction  fgri^nd)n 
(Scotland)  Act,  1908,  Amendment  Bill [Lords]   ;  Act°  1908, 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time BUI6[X<»S!] 

upon  Monday  the  18th  day  of  this 
October. 

instant 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  London 

into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill  Elections  Bill, 
(not  amended in the  Standing  Committee); 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Monday  the  18th  day  of  this 
instant  October. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Places of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship ^.or?hlP 
(linirancmsement)  (JNo. 2)  bill;  

\  ,  XT 

n-11 

,  . 

(Eufranchise­
ment)  (No. 2) 

» 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time Bl11' 

upon  Monday  the  18 th  day  of  this  instant 
October. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Bishopric  of 
into consideration the Bishopric  of  Sheffield Bill,  Sheffield  Bill, 
as amended  in the  Standing  Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Monday  the  18th  day  of  this 
instant  October. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Local 

Committee  on  the  Local  Registration  of  Title  Registration 
/T  7 
J\  TJM1 
(Ireland)  Bill;  

of  Title 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

Resolved, That this  House  will, upon  Monday 
the  18th  day  of  this  instant  October,  resolve 
itself  into the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring Laws 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con -  Continuance 
tinuance  Bill; 

BilK 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 
this  instant 

upon  Monday  the  18 th  day  of 
October. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  County 
Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-  Councils 
gages  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time 
instant 

upon  Monday  the  18th  day  of  this 
October. 

3  Q  3 

4 86 

8th—18th October. 

1 9 0 9.  

[No. 159. 

Finance  BilL 
No. 291. 

Mr.  Hothouse  presented, —  Return  to  an 
Order,  dated  the 8th  day of this instant  October, 
for a Return  relative  to  the Finance  Bill. 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put, pursuant  to 
the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th  day 
of  August  last,  it  being  then  eighteen 
minutes  before  Eight  of  the  clock,  till 
Monday  the  18th  day  of  this  instant 
October. 

holme,  Esquire,  M.D.,  Medical  Officer  of  the  Conference   of 
Local  Government  Board,  and  Sir  Malcolm  19090 
Morris,  K . C . V . O .,   F.E.C.S., the  Delegates  of  His 
Majesty's  Government  to 
the  International 
Scientific  Conference  on  Leprosy,  held  at 
Bergen  from the  15th to  the  19th August  1909. 
Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Commercial 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  to  the  Board  of intelligence 
Trade  by  the  Advisory  Committee  on  Com­
mercial  Intelligence  with  reference  to  their 
Proceedings  (August  1905  to  August  1909). 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie  upon the 

[No.  159.] 

Table. 

Monday,  1 M  October  1909. 

The  House  met at a quarter  of  an hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

TH E  Colinton  Tramways  Order  Confirmation 

Bill  \Lords] was, according  to  Order,  read 

a second time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Wednesday  next. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read;  and  ordered  to  lie upon the  Table. 

The 

following  Papers,  presented  by  His 
Majesty's  Command  during  the  Recess,  were 
delivered  to  the  Librarian  of  the  House  of 
Commons  during  the  Recess,  pursuant  to  the 
Standing  Order  of  the  14th August  1896 :— 

Copy  of  Abstract of  the  Returns of  Shipping 
Casualties which  occurred  on  or near the  Coasts 
or in  Rivers  and Harbours of  the  United  King­
dom from the  1st  July  1907  to  30th  June  1908, 
and  of  the  Returns  of  Shipping  Casualties  to 
British  Vessels  elsewhere  than  on  or  near  the 
Coasts  or  in  Rivers  and Harbours  of  the  United 
Kingdom,  and to  Foreign  Vessels  on  or  near the 
Coasts  or  in  Rivers  and  Harbours  of  British 
Possessions  Abroad,  &c.,  with  Charts  and 
Appendices. 

Copy  of  Review  of  the  Trade  of  India  for 

1908-9. 

Copy  of  Report  to the  Secretary  of  State  for 

the Home Department, by A. H. Lush, Barrister­
at-Law,  on  the  Draft  Regulations  proposed  to 
be  made for  Factories  in which  the  Grinding  of 
Metals  and Racing  of  Grindstones  is carried  on. 
Copy  of  Report  on  the  Forests  of  British 

East  Africa, by  D. E.  Hutchins. 

Copy of Annual Report for  Cyprus for 1908-9. 
Copy  of  Colonial  Report  No.  616  (Saint 

Lucia,  Annual Report for  1908). 

Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, 

Annual  Series, Nos.  4369 to 4371. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon 

the  Table. 

Mr.  Sydney  Buxton  presented,  pursuant  to 
the  directions of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of the  Foreign  and Colonial Parcel Post  Amend­
ment  (No.  29)  Warrant,  1909,  dated  19th 
August  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Paper do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Colinton 
Tramways 
Order 
Confirmation 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth 
Report. 

Parliamentary 
Papers 
(Recess.) 

Shipping 
Casualties 
(1907-8.) 

East  India 
(Trade.) 

Factory  and 
"Workshop 
(Grinding   of 
Metals  and 
Racing  of 
Grindstones.) 

East  Africa 
Protectorate. 

Cyprus. 

Colonial 
Beports 
(Annual.) 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Post  Office 
(Foreign  and 
Colonial 
Parcel  Post.) 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His  Education 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Minute  of  the  (Scotland.) 
Committee  of  Council  on Education in  Scotland, 
dated  15th  October  1909,  providing  for  the 
recognition  of the  Edinburgh  School  of  Cookery 
and  Domestic  Economy  as a Central  Institution 
for  the  purposes  of  the  Education  (Scotland) 
Act,  1908. 

Copy  of  Report  on  the  Judicial  Statistics of  judicial 

Scotland  for the year  1908. 

(Scotiand) 

Copy of  Supplement to the Fourteenth Annual  Local 

Report  to  the  Local  Government  Board 
for  Government 
Scotland,  1908, containing Statistics of  Infectious (s^tland.) 
Disease  Notifications  and  of  Mortality  for  the 
year  1908. 

Ordered, That  the  said Papers  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr. Birrell  presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com-  Agricultural 

mand,—Copy  of  Report  and  Tables  relating  to  Statistics 
Irish  Agricultural  Labourers, 
1908-9. 

for  the  year (Agricultural 

Labourers.) 

Copv  of  Return  of  Proceedings  of  the  Irish  Irish  Land 
Land  'Commission  under  the  Land  Law  Acts,  Commission 
the  Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts,  1883-91,  and  the l  ° 
Land  Purchase  Acts,  during 
May  1909. 

the  month  of 

ng8,) 

Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Shop  Hours 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Act<1904­
Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the  County 
Borough  of  Cork  under  the  Shop  Hours  Act, 
1904, and  confirmed  by  the Lord  Lieutenant  of 
Ireland,  fixing  the  hours  of  closing  of  certain 
classes  of  Shops. 

Ordered, That  the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  to  the 
Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department, 
by   W .  W.  Squire,  on  the  Disaster  which 
occurred  on the 2nd July  1909  at  the  Alexandra 
Dock,  Newport  (Monmouth). 

Disaster  at 
Alexandra 
Dock, 
Newport 
(Mon.) 

Copy  of  Report  of  the  Royal  Commissioners 
on the  Poor  Laws and  Relief  of  Distress  with 
regard  to  Scotland. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented, pur­
suant to the  directions of  an  Act  of  Parliament, 
—Copy  of  Scheme  approved  by  the  Secretary 
of  State for  the Home Department, in pursuance 
of  Section  5 (2)  (a)  of  the  Factory  and  Work­
shop Act,  1907,  for  the  regulation  of  hours  of 
employment  and  intervals  lor  meals  and  rest 
for  workers  in  the  Stoneygate  Road  Home, 
Leicester, 
for  the  Scheme 
approved for  that  Institution  on  the  30th  July 
1908. 

in  substitution 

Poor  Laws  and 
Relief  of 
Distress 
(Royal 
Commission.) 
Factory  and 
Workshop 
(Scheme  for 
Regulation  of 
Hours  of 
Employment, 
&c.   in 
Charitable 
Institutions.) 

Leprosy
Scientific^0118^ Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  Arthur  News­

Mr.  Runciman  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

 
Southern 
Nigeria. 

Southern 
Nigeria. 

London 
Elections  Bill, 

No. 159 ]  9  E D W.  Y I I. 

18 th  October. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Committee 
of  Inquiry  into the  Liquor  Trade  in  Southern 
Nigeria.  Part  I.,  Report. 

Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Bowles,

Yeas, 

(  Sir  William  Bull: 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton ; 

75. 

140. 

Copy  of  Report of  the  Committee  of  Inquiry 
into  the  Liquor  Traffic  in  Southern  Nigeria. 
Part  II.,  Minutes of  Evidence,  &c. 

Ordered, That the  said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  London  Elections  Bill 
(not  amended  in the  Standing  Committee)  ; 

And  a  Motion  being  made,  That  the  Bill 
be  recommitted  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole 
House—(Mr.  Remnant); 

Member 
directed   to 
discontinue 
his  Speech 
(Irrelevance.) 

Mr.  Speaker  called the attention of  the House 
to  the  continued  irrelevance  on the part of  Sir 
Henry  Kimber,  Member  for  Wandsworth,  in 
seconding  the  Motion,  and  directed  him  to 
discontinue his speech. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  Bill 
be  recommitted  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole 
House; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers  for the j  Mr. Remnant, 

Yeas, 

( Sir  Henry  Kimber: 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

|  Captain Norton: 

)  g^

j 
1 ^^^ 

j

So it passed in the  Negative. 
The  House  accordingly  proceeded  to  take the 
Bill  (not  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee) 
into  consideration. 

A  Clause  was offered to be  added  to  the  Bill 
(Duty  of  person  registered  in  more  than  one 
constituency).—(Mr. Remnant.) 

And  the  said Clause was brought  up, and read 

the first time. 

So  it passed  in the  Negative. 
Another  Clause  was  offered  to  be-  added  to 
the  Bill  (Town  clerks  to  warn  voters).—  (Mr. 
Remnant.)

And  the said Clause was brought  up, and  read 

the first time. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  put,  That  the  said  Clause  be now read  a 
second time ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Remnant, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Claude Hay: 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton: 

I  76 
j
)
j

So  it passed  in  the  Negative. 
Another  Clause was offered to be  added  to the 
Bill  (Relief  in  cases  of  personation).—(Lord 
Robert  Cecil.) 

And  the said  Clause  was brought up, and read 

the first time. 

And  a  Motion  being  made,  and the  Question 
being  put,  That the  said  Clause  be  now  read  a 
second  time j 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the J Lord  Robert  Cecil, 
( Sir  William Bull; 
Tellers for  the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

1 Captain  Norton : 

75. 

160. 

So it  passed in the  Negative. 
An Amendment  was proposed to be made to the 
Bill, in p.  1,1.  5,  by  leaving  out  Clause  1.—(Sir 
Frederick  Banbury.) 

And  a  Motion  being made, and  the  Question 
being  put, That  the said  Clause  be  now read  a 
second  time; 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the words 
proposed  to  be  left  out, to  the  first  word  "  in," 
in  1. 6, stand  part of  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the j  Mr. Remnant,

Yeas, 

I Sir  William Bull:
Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease,
( Captain Norton :

Noes, 

^ 

^ 

(
j 
)
j 

So  it passed in the  Negative. 
Another  Clause was offered  to be  added to the 
Bill  (Provision  in  respect  of  section  64  of  the 
Corrupt  and  Illegal  Practices  Prevention  Act, 
1883).—(Lord  Robert  Cecil.) 

And  the said Clause was brought  up, and read 

the first time. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  said  Clause  be  now 
read  a  second  time  :—-The  said  Motion  and 
Clause were severally, with  leave of  the  House, 
withdrawn. 

Another  Clause  was  offered  to  be  added  to 
the  Bill  (Provision  for  fresh  selection).—(Mr. 
Bowles.) 

And  the  said Clause  was brought up,  and read 

the first time. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  put, That  the  said  Clause  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 

VOL.   164. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 
Tellers for the j 

( Captain  Norton: 

Alexander Acland­

) 
j 

169. 

55. 

Noes, 

| Mr.  Henry  Forster : 
So it  was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  1,  1. 6, by  inserting,  after  the 
word  "  boroughs,"  the words "  except  the City  of 
London."—(Mr. Harmood-Banner 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  those words 
be there inserted  in  the Bill:—It  passed  in  the 
Negative. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 

to  the  Bill,  in  p.  2,1.  34, by  leaving  out  sub­
section (3)  of  Clause  4.—(Mr. Harmood-Banner.)
And  the  Question  being  put, That  the words 
proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "  by,"  in 
1. 38, stand part of  the  Bill:—It  was  resolved  in 
the Affirmative. 

A  Motion was  made, and  the  Question  being 
proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  the  third 
time ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
to  the  Question, by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
lf That"  to  the end of  the  Question, and  adding 
the  words  "  this  House  declines  to  pass  a  Bill 
which proposes to  amalgamate  into  one  borough 
a  whole  county  containing  59  out  of  the  670 
3  Q  4 





488 	

18th—19th October. 

1909. 

[No. 160. 

constituencies of the  United Kingdom, and there­
by  (1)  would  deprive  large  numbers  of  electors 
of  their  existing  voting  power  and,  (2)  while 
professing to have  for its  sole object the  removal 
of anomalies, (3) leaves greater anomalies existing 
and  unremedied,  (4)  creates  further  anomalies, 
and  (5)  seriously affects the representation  of the 
people "—(Sir  Henry  Kimber),—instead  thereof. 
And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the 
Question  ; 

The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to the  Right;  

The  Noes to the  Left.  

Tellers for the  f Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
( Captain  Norton  : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for  the  ( Sir Henry  Kimber, 

Noes, 

( Mr. Harmood-Banner : 

161. 

29. 

So  it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the Main  Question  being  put: 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  now  read the third 
time:—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, that  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

Adjournment. 

Resolved, That  this House  do  now  adjourn.— 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  twenty-one  minutes 
before  Nine  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till 
to-morrow. 

[No.  160.] 

luesday,  19th October 1909. 
The  House  met  at a quarter of  an  hour 
before Three  of the clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

R P HE   Lord  Advocate  presented  a  Bill  to 
Robert 
JL  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the 
Gordon's 

Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  

Technical 
College  and  	
1899,  relating  to  Robert  Gordon's  Technical 
Aberdeen 
Endowments  College  and  Aberdeen  Endowments Trust:  And 
the  same  was  read  the  first  time,  and  ordered 
Trust  Order 
Confirmation 
(under  Section  9 of the  Act)  to  be read  a second 
Bill. 
time  upon  Thursday  the  28th  day  of  this instant 
October  ;  and to  be  printed. 

Bill 337. 

Public 

Petitions. 
Vide  Fifth  

Report. 


Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Railway 
Accidents. 	

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  and 

read;  and  ordered  to  lie upon the  Table.  


Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,—Copies of  Diplomatic 
and  Consular  Reports, Annual  Series, Nos. 4372 
to 4374. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy of  Summary of  Accidents and 
Casualties,  as  reported  to  the  Board  of  Trade 
by  the  several  Railway  Companies 
in  the 
United  Kingdom, during  the three months  ended 
30th  June  1909,  together  with  Reports  of  the 
Inspecting  Officers of  the  Railway  Department 
to  the  Board  of  Trade  upon  certain  Accidents 
which  were inquired  into. 

Board  of 
Trade (Labour   the  United  Kingdom  at  1st October  1909. 
Department.) 

Copy  of  Standard  Time  Rates  of  Wages  in 

nm 

.  1 

, 

Ordered, That  the  said  Papers  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Report  to  the 

Explosions 
(Fernilee 
Factory, 
Derbyshire.) 

Secretary of  State for the  Home  Department  on  

the circumstances  attending  an  Explosion  which  

occurred  in  the  corning  house  of  the  Factory  

of  the Chilworth  Gunpowder  Company, Limited, 

at  Fernilee,  Derbyshire,  on  12th August  1909.  


Ordered,  That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  following  Papers  were  laid  upon  the 

Table  by  the  Clerk  of the  House :— 

Further  Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  26th  inquiry  into 

day  of  July  1905,  for  a  Return  relative  to 
Inquiry  into  Charities  (County  of Devon). 

D e v o n . ) 0 

No. 293. 
Further  Return  to  an  Order, dated  the  28th  Inquiry  into 

day  of  March  1905,  for  a  Return  relative  to  Charities 
Inquiry  into  Charities  (County  of Berks). 

B e S  f  °f 

N o.  2 9 4. 
Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  9th  day  of  inquiry  into 

September  last, for  a Return  relative  to Inquiry Charities 
into  Charities  (County  Borough  of Plymouth).  Borough  of 
Plymouth.) 
N o.  2 9 5. 

Ordered, That  the said  Returns  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his  Southwark 

Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown,  to  make  Borough 
out  a  new  Writ  for  the  electing  of  a  Member  ^™ 0° nf 8 ey 
to  serve  in  this  present  Parliament  for  the  Writ. 
Borough  of  Southwark  (Bermondsey  Division), 
in the room of  George  Cooper, Esquire, deceased. 
—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

the  number  of 

Ordered, That  there  be laid  before this  House  Licensed 
a  Return,  for  the  year  ending  the  31st  day  of Premises. 
March  1909, showing  in  England,  Wales,  Scot­
land,  and  Ireland 
licensed 
Public-Houses  in  (a)  each  county  borough  ; 
(b)  each  municipal  borough;  (c)  each  urban 
district;  and  (d)  the  rural  districts  of  each 
county  ;  classified  according  to  annual'  value, 
and  showing  the  maximum  amount  of  licence 
duty  payable  at  each  step  in  the scale of  value, 
and  the  total  sum  paid  in  duty  on  licensed 
Public-Houses  in  each  such  area : 

Of  the  number  of  dealers' licences  for  beer, 

spirits,  wines,  and  sweets,  together  with  "ad­
ditional  retail "  and  other  retail  off-licences held 
with them (commonly known  as grocers' licences), 
in  each  area  as  enumerated  above,  in  England, 
Wales,  and Ireland, distinguishing  between  each 
description  of  licence,  and  giving  the  maximum 
amount of licence  duty  charged  on  each, and the 
total  sum  paid  in  duty  in  each  area,  as  well  as 
the  total  number  of  premises licensed : 

Of  the  number  of  retailers  for  beer,  cider, 
wine,  and  sweets,  distinguishing  those  having 
licences for "  on "  consumption from those having 
licences  for  "  o f f"  consumption,  and  giving  the 
maximum  amount  of  licence  duty  payable  on 
each  house, and  the  total  amount  paid  on  such 
licences  in  each  area  as  enumerated  above  in 
England,  Wales,  and  Ireland,  as  well  as  the 
total  number of  premises  licensed: 

Corresponding  particulars  for  Scotland  from 
(a)  each  burgh  (royal,  municipal,  or  police,  as 
the  case may  be);  and (b)  the rural  districts  of 
each  county  (in  continuation  of  Parliamentary 
Paper,  No.  408  of  Session  1902).  —  (Mr. 
Mooney.) 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted . the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords  by  the  Lords, 
one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth : 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Housing,  Housing, 

Town  Planning,  &c.  Bill,  with  Amendments ;  T o w n. 
to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of  Bin™118'
this  House. 

&C"



No. 160 ]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

19 th  October. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Local  Govern­
Local 
  Provisional  Orders  (No.  6)  Bill,  with 
Prw1s"onaint
Orders  (No.   6)  Amendments;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
Bill. 

concurrence  of  this  House. 

  m e nt

Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Harold  Cox, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Ridsdaie: 

4 89 

)  207 
) 
1 
j 

g9

Ordered, That  the  Amendments  made  by  the 
Local 
Government  Lords  to  the  Local  Government  Provisional 
Orders  (No.  6)  Orders  (No.  6)  Bill  be  taken into  consideration 
Bill. 

to-morrow. 

Education 

The  Education  (Administrative  Provisions) 

trative" 8'
Provisions)
Bill  [Lords.]

Bill 338. 

l L o r d * \ 

B i l1  
ordered to be read  a second time upon  Thursday 
next;  and  to be  printed. 

r e ad 

t i m e

w as 

a nd 

first 

t he 

> 

Adjournment
(supported  by
less than  Forty

Members.)

Prisoners

awaiting Trial

in  pam.

,

i

, 

. 

 L 

-. 

.  . 

  Mr.  Grayson, Member  for  the  Colne  Valley 
  Division  of  the  West  Riding  of  Yorkshire, rose 
. 
ii 
111  his  place  and  a3ked  leave  to  move  the 
Adjournment  of  the  House  for  the  purpose  of 
discussing  a  definite  matter  of  urgent  public 
importance,  viz.,  "  the  non-intervention  of  the 
  Secretary  of  State for Foreign  Affairs on  behalf 
Q f   p r i 8 0 n e rs  n o   w   j n   g a o l  in  Spain  and  shortly 
coming  up for  trial  before  courts-martial j"  but 
the  pleasure  of  the  House  not  having  been 
signified,  Mr.  Speaker  called  on those  Members 
who supported  the  Motion  to rise in their places, 
and  less  than  Forty  Members  having  accord­
ingly  risen, the  House  proceeded  to  the  Orders 
of the  day. 

Finance  Bill.

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking 
into consideration  the  Finance  Bill,  as amended 
in the  Committee; 

And  a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being  put,  That  the  Bill  be  recommitted  in 
respect  of  Part  I.—(Mr.  Watson Rutherford) ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
,, 

,, 

( Mr.  Watson Rutherford. 
T e l l e r s^  the   M r>  Q e m ge  D e n J m  •  j. 
(.  Faber: 

' 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease,

(Captain  Norton : 

Noes, 

80> 

180. 

So  it  passed  in the  Negative. 
The  House  accordingly  proceeded  to  take the 

Bill  into  consideration. 

A  Clause was  offered  to  be  added  to  the  Bill 
(Provision  for  case  of  ecclesiastical  persons).— 
(Mr.  Stuart-Wortley.) 

And  the said Clause  was brought  up, and  read 

the first time. 

And  a  Motion  being made,  and the  Question 
being  put,  That  the said  Clause  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr. Henry  Forster, 

Yeas, 

\  Mt.  Pike  Pease: 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

j  Captain  Norton: 

)  74. 
f 
) 
j 

196. 

So  it passed in the  Negative. 
An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  Bill,  in  p.  1,1.  17, by  leaving  out  Clause  1. 
—(Mr.  Harold  Cox.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the words 
proposed  to be left out, to the word "  increment," 
in  1. 18, stand  part of  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 


VOL.  164.  


So it was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to  the Bill,  in p. 1,1.18,  by inserting, after 
the  word  "the,"  the  word  "  unearned."—(Mr. 
Watson Rutherford.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 
word  "unearned"  be  there inserted  in the  Bill: 
—The  said  proposed  Amendment  was,  with 
leave  of  the House,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to  the Bill, in  p. 2,1.1,  by  leaving  out the 
word  "  nine,"  and  inserting  the  word  "  ten "— 
(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford),  instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  word 

"  nine "  stand part of  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

) 
j 

219. 

Yeas, 

1 Captain  Norton: 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Watson Rutherford,  )  87. 
1  Mr,  Remnant: 

Noes, 

) 

So it  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Then  Amendments  were  made to  the  Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in p.  2,1. 4, by  inserting,  after 
the  word  "  land,"  the  words  " other  than  land 
acquired  for  the  purpose  of  being  so  sold  or 
leased."—(Lord  Robert  Cecil.) 

And  the  Question  being put, That those words 

be  there inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers  for the  ( Lord  Robert  Cecil, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Remnant: 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton ; 

So it passed in  the  Negative. 

)  90. 
j 
)
j 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to the  Bill, in p. 2,1. 33, by inserting, after 
the word  "  land,"  the  words  "exclusive  of  the 
minerals comprised  therein."—(Mr.  Stanier.) 

And  the  Question  being put, That  those words 

be there inserted  in  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the  f Mr.  Stanier, 

Yeas, 

) 
{ Viscount  Castlereagh  :  j 

^ 

Tellers  for the  f Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton : 

195. 

So  it passed in the  Negative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to  the  Bill, in p. 2,1. 35, by  inserting, after 
the words last inserted, the words  "  and is proved 
by  the  Commissioners  to be  attributable  to  any 
public expenditure."—(Mr.  Watson Rutherford.) 

And  the  Question  being put, That  those words 
be there inserted  in  the  Bill:—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

3  R 

 
 
 
 
 
 






490 

4th—Qth  October. 

1909. 

[No. 154. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to the  Bill,  in p. 2,1.35,  by insertings after 
the  words  last  inserted,  the  words "subject  to 
deduction  of the  amount  of  any decrement  in the 
same  period  in  the  value  of  any  other land  in 
the  same ownership."—(Mr. Remnant.) 

And  the  Question  being put, That those words 

be there inserted  in  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Fell, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Robert Duncan : 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton : 

54. 

184. 

So it passed  in  the  Negative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to  the Bill, in p. 2,1. 35,  by  inserting, after 
the words  last  inserted,  the  words  "  subject  to 
deduction  of such  a  sum  as will  recompense  the 
owner for loss of  income, with compound  interest 
at  four  per  cent,  thereon,  for  the  period  or 
periods during which  he is unable  to  sell  or  let 
the land for  such  consideration,  as in  view of the 
character and surroundings of the neighbourhood, 
would  have  been  reasonable."—  (Mr.  Watson 
Rutherford.) 

And  the  Question  being put, That those words 

be  there inserted  in  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr. James Hope, 

Yeas, 

|  Viscount Castlereagh 

66. 

Tellers  for  the j  Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

I  igg 

Noes, 

( Captain Norton : 

J 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to  the Bill, in p. 5,1.4,  by  inserting  at the 
end  thereof  the  words  "Provided  that  where 
increment  value  duty  becomes  due  on  the 
occasion of any  grant  of  a  lease of  the land the 
duty  shall, if  the  person  or persons  chargeable 
so  desire,  be  collected  by  fifteen  equal  instal­
ments  payable  annually."—(Lord  Willoughby de 
Ereshy.) 

And  the  Question  being proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted  in the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to the Bill, in p. 6,1. 39, by inserting,  after 
the  word  "  duty,"  the  words  "  or  reversion 
duty."—(Mr.  Stuart-Wortley.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be there  inserted  in  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the further consideration  of the 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Committee,  be  now 
adjourned.—(Mr.  Chancellor of the  Exchequer.) 
Ordered, That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee, be  taken  into  further  consideration 
to-morrow. 

Local 
of6fitieati0n 
(Ireland)  Bill.  Title  (Ireland)  Bill. 

The House, according  to  Order, resolved itself 
into a Committee  on  the  Local  Registration  of 

(In  the  Committee.)  


Clauses  No.  1 to  No.  4 agreed  to.  

Bill  to be  reported.  


Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  Sir  

Frederick Banbury reported, That  the Committee 

had gone  through  the  Bill,  and  directed  him to 

report  the same, without  Amendment.  


Ordered, That the  Bill  be  now  read  the third 
time :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and passed. 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

Resolved, That  this House  do  now  adjourn.—  Adjournment, 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued to  sit till  twenty-six  minutes  after  

Eleven  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  to­
morrow. 


[No.  161.] 

Wednesday, 20th  October  1909. 

The  House met at a quarter  of  an hour 

before  Three  of  the  clock.  


P K A Y E K S. 

TH E  Order  of  the day  being  read, for  taking gjjg0 and 

into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  Bundoran 

by the Lords to the Sligo  and  Bundoran  Railway  Railway  BU1­
Bill; 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question  

being  proposed,  That  the  Lords'  Amendments  

be now taken into consideration  ;  


An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made to 
the Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "  now," 
and, at the end of the  Question, adding the words 
"  upon this day three months."—(The  Chairman 
of  Ways  and  Means.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 
"  now "  stand  part  of  the  Question  :—It  passed 
in the  Negative. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the words 
"  upon  this day  three  months "  be  added  at the 
end  of  tbe  Question  :—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Then  the  Main  Question,  so  amended,  being 

put; 

Ordered, That the said Amendments  be  taken 

into  consideration  upon  this  day  three  months. 

The  House, according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Local 

take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made 
by  the  Lords  to  the  Local  Government  Pro- orders (No. 6) 
visional  Orders  (No.  6)  Bill;  and  the  same  Bill, 
were  twice read, and agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made by  their 
Lordships. 

The  House,  according to  Order, proceeded  to  Colinton 
take into  consideration  the  Colinton  Tramways  ^ ™w a ys 
Order  Confirmation  Bill  [Lords].  

Confirmation 
Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  the  third  time Bil1  [>''^-1 

upon Friday  next. 

A  Public  Petition  was presented,  and  read;  Public  


and ordered  to  lie upon  the  Table. 

Petitions. 

Vide  Fifth 
Beport. 

No. 161.]  9  E D W.   V I I. 

2Oth  October.  	

4 91 

Factory  and 
Workshop Acts 
(Dangerous 
and  Unhealthy 
Industries.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copy  of  Regulations,  dated  15th  October  1909, 
made  by  the  Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home 
Department  in  pursuance  of  Section 79 of  the 
Factory  and  Workshop  Act,  1901,  for  the 
Grinding  of  Metals  and Racing  of  Grindstones. 
Ordered,  That the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Irish  Land 
Commission 
(Proceedings.) 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,— Copy  of  Return  of  the  Proceedings 
of  the  Irish  Land  Commission  under the  Land 
Law  Acts,  the  Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts,  1883­
91,  and  the  Land  Purchase  Acts,  during  the 
month  of  June  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mersey  Docks 
and  Harbour 
Board. 

The  following  Paper, pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,  was  laid  upon 
the  Table by  the  Clerk of  the  House :—Copy  of 
Accounts  of  the  Mersey  Docks  and  Harbour 
Board for the year  ending  1st July  1909. 

Public 
Petitions 
(Fifth  Report.) 

Finance  Bill. 

Mr.  Henry  Joseph  Wilson  reported  from  the 
Select  Committee  on  Public  Petitions;  That 
they had examined  the  Petitions  presented  upon 
the  17th,  18th,  19th,  20th,  23rd,  24th,  25th, 
26th,  27th,  30th,  and  31st days  of  August  last, 
and  the  1st,  2nd, 3rd,  6th,  7th,  8th,  9th,  10th, 
13th,  14th,  15th,  16th,  17th,  20th,  21st, 22nd, 
23rd,  24th,  27th,  28th,  29th, and  30th days  of 
September  last,  and  the  1st, 4th, 5th,  6th,  7th, 
8th,  18th,  19th, and  20th  days  of  this  instant 
October,  and  had  directed  him  to  make  a 
Report  thereof  to the  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be  printed. 

The	  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to 
take	  into  further  consideration  the  Finance 
Bill,  as amended  in  the  Committee. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made	  to  the  Bill,  in  p. 8,1. 34,  by  leaving  out 
from	  the  first  word  "  land"  to  the  end  of 
Clause  7.—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words  proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  word 
"  than,"  in  1. 34, stand  part of the  Bill: 

Royal  Assent. 

A  Message  was  delivered  by  Admiral  Sir 
Henry  Frederick  Stephenson,  Gentleman  Usher 
of  the Black  Rod  : 

Mr.  Speaker, 

The  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commission, for  declaring  His  Royal 
Assent  to  several  Acts  agreed  upon  by  both 
Houses, desire the immediate  attendance  of  this 
Honourable  House  in  the  House  of  Peers,  to 
hear the  Commission  read. 

Accordingly  Mr.  Speaker,  with  the  House, 
went  up to  the  House  of  Peers :—And  having 
returned; 

Mr.  Speaker reported, That the  House, at the 
desire  of  the  Lords authorised  by  virtue of  His 
Majesty's  Commission, had been at the  House of 
Peers, where a Commission  under the Great Seal 
was  read,  giving,  declaring,  and  notifying  the 
Royal  Assent to  the  several  Acts  therein  men­
tioned ;  and  that  the  Lords  thereby  authorised 
had declared the  Royal  Assent to  the said  Acts, 
as follow: 

1.	  Judicature  (Rule  Committee)  Act,  1909. 

VOL.  164. 

2.	  Marine  Insurance 

(Gambling  Policies) 

Act,  1909. 

' 

3.	  Local  Education  Authorities 
Treatment)  Act,  1909.  


(Medical 

4.  Board  of  Trade  Act,  1909. 
5.	  Board  of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Act,  


1909. 


6.  Assistant  Postmaster  General  Act,  1909. 
7.  Metropolitan  Ambulances  Act,  1909. 
8.	  Workmen's  Compensation  (Anglo-French  


Convention)  Act,  1909.  


9.  Colonial  Naval  Defence  Act,  1909. 
10.	  Naval  Establishments  in  British  Posses­

sions  Act,  1909.  


11.  Telegraph  (Arbitration)  Act,  1909. 
12.  Irish  Handloom  Weavers  Act,  1909. 
13.  Trade  Boards  Act,  1909. 
14.	  Irvine  Harbour  Order  Confirmation  Act,  


1909. 


15.	  Whittington  Charity  Scheme  Confirma­

tion  Act,  1909.  


16.	  Bridgend  Hope  English  Baptist  Chapel  


Scheme  Confirmation  Act,  1909.  


17.	  Marshall's  Charity  Scheme  Confirmation  


Act,  1909.  


18.	  Lichfield  and  Longdon  Congregational 
Chapels  Scheme  Confirmation  Act, 
1909. 


19.	  Dewsbury  and  Batley  Congregational 
Chapels  Scheme  Confirmation  Act, 
1909; 

20.	  Wortley  Congregational  Chapel  Scheme  


Confirmation  Act,  1909.  


21.	  Hamilton Burgh Order  Confirmation  Act,  


1909. 


22.	  Provisional  Order  (Marriages)  Confirma­

tion  (No. 2)  Act,  1909.  


23.	  Local  Government  Board's  Provisional 
Orders  Confirmation  (No.  9)  Act,  1909.  


24.	  Lune  Fisheries  Provisional  Order  Con­

firmation Act,  1909.  


25.	  Kilkenny, Castlecomer, and Athy  Railway  


Act,  1909.  


26.	  Bury  Corporation  Act,  1909. 
27.	  Edgware  and  Hampstead  Railway  Act,  


1909. 


And  the  Question  being  again proposed,  That  Finance  Bill, 

the  words  proposed  to  be  left  out, to  the  word 
"  than,"  in  1. 34, stand part of  the  Bill; 

And  the  Question  being  put; 
The  House  divided, 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

1 Captain Norton : 

195. 

Tellers for the  I Viscount  Valentia, 
( Mr,  Henry  Forster: 

Noes, 

) 
J 

„„

'  '  


So  it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to  the  Bill, in p. 8,1. 34, by inserting, after 
the  word  "  value,"  the  words  "  for  any  other 
purpose."—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted  in the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill, in  p.  8,1.  35, by  inserting,  after  the 
words  last  inserted,  the  words  "Provided  also 
that the duty  shall in no case be charged  on any 
sum  in  excess  of  the  difference  between  the 
3  R	  2 

















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1 9 0 9. 

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492 
agricultural  value at the time such duty  becomes 
payable  and  the total value of  the  land."—(Mr. 
Lyulph  Stanley.) 

And  the Question  being put, That those words 

be there  inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Lyulph Stanley, 

Yeas, 

t Mr.  Everett : 


Tellers  for the J Mr. Joseph  Pease,

( Captain  Norton : 

Noes, 

102. 

218. 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 
Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  8,  1. 40,  by  leaving  out from 
the  word  "residence"  to  the  end  of  subsec­
tion  (1) of  Clause  8.—(Sir  Henry  Kimber.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That the words 
proposed  to  be  left out stand part of  the  Bill:— 
It was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  9,  1.  17,  by  leaving  out from 
the  word  "  acres "  to  the end of  subsection  (2) 
of  Clause 8.—(Sir  Henry  Kimber.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be left  out stand part of  the  Bill  :— 
It  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p.  9,  1. 38, by  inserting,  after  the 
word  "  on,"  the words "death or.''—(Mr.  Evelyn
Cecil.) 

And  the  Question being put,  That those  words 

be  there inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Evelyn  Cecil, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Burdett-Coutts : 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

( Captain  Norton : 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 

)  59. 
j 

196. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  10,  1.  4,  by  leaving  out  the 
Avord "  is," and  inserting  the  words  "  has been " 
—(Mr.  Burdett-Coutts),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 
" i s"  stand part  of  the Bill:—It  was resolved  in 
the Affirmative. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill, in p.  11,1.  7,  by  inserting, after the 
word  "  land,"  the  words  "  granted  after  the 
thirtieth  day  of  April  nineteen  hundred  and 
nine."—(Lord  Robert  Cecil.) 

And  the  Question  being  put, That those words 

be  there  inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Lord  Robert  Cecil, 

|  ^ 

Tellers for thej Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford: f 
\ 
I Sir Edward  Strachey :  J 

So  it passed in the  Negative. 

Another Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  11,  1.  12,  by  inserting  at the 
end thereof  the  words  "  But  no  reversion  duty 
shall be  charged  on the  determination  of  a lease 
where  the  owner  of  the  reversion  demises  the 
premises included  in the lease on the same terms 
and  conditions  as  are  contained  in  the  lease 
which has determined, and without receiving any 
fine or any  other  consideration  for  such  demise." 
- ( M r.  Fell.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there inserted  in  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill, in p.  11,  1. 22, by  inserting,  after the 
word  "  lease,"  the  words  "  (including,  in  cases 
where  a  nominal  rent  only  has  been  reserved, 
the  value  of  any  covenant  or  undertaking  to 
erect  buildings  or  to  expend  any  sums  upon  the 
property)."—(Mr.  Attorney  General.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That those 

words be there  inserted  in the  Bill; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  said  proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill,  by 
leaving  out th£ words  "  in cases where  a nominal 
rent  only  has  been  reserved."—(Mr.  Watson 
Rutherford.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  said 
proposed  Amendment; 
The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

)  jg^ 

Yeas, 

1 Sir Edward  Strachey :  j

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Watson Rutherford,  ) 
j 

( Sir  Samuel  Scott: 

Noes, 

o 

64. 

So  it  was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 
And  the  Question being  put,  That  the  words 
"  (including,  in cases where a  nominal  rent  only 
has been  reserved, the value  of  any  covenant  or 
undertaking  to  erect buildings  or  to  expend  any 
sums upon  the  property)"  be  inserted  after  the 
word  "  lease,"  in  p.  11,  1. 22 :—It  was resolved 
in  the Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  11,  1. 25,  by  inserting  at  the 
end  thereof  the  words  "  and  where  at  any  time 
during  the continuance  of  the  lease  a  lessee, has 
had  an option  of  purchasing  the; lessor's  interest 
the  value  of  the  benefit  accruing  to  the lessor 
shall  not  be  deemed  to  be  greater  than  the 
amount  by  which  the  purchase  money  fixed 
under  the  option  exceeds  the  value  of  the 
consideration for the original  grant of the  lease." 
—(Mr.  Pretyman.) 

And  the  Question being put, That  those words 
be  there  inserted  in  the  Bill:—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to the Bill,  in  p.  13,  1. 18, by  inserting, after the 
word  "  year,"  the  words  "  after  the  completion 
of  the  valuation  of  all  land  in  the  United 
Kingdom  as  hereinafter  provided."—(Yiscount 
Castlereagh.) 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  those  words 

Bill. 

be  there  inserted  in  the  B i l l; 



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The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to  the  Right:  

The  Noes  to  the  Left.  

Tellers for  the f Viscount  Castlereagh,  \ 
f 

lMr.  Evelyn Cecil-. 
Tellers for  theJ Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

\ Sir Edward  Strachey: 

So  it  passed  in  the  Negative. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill, in p.  13,1.  19, by  inserting, after  the 
word  " land," the  words "  capable  of  being  let 
with  a covenant  to  build  thereon  immediately." 
—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

And  the  Question being  put, That  those words 

be there inserted  in the  Bill  ; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Watson Rutherford, 

Yeas, 

{  Mr.  Stanier : 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second  time  


this day.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Coal  Mines 
Second  Reading of  the  Coal  Mines  Regulation  ®?salatlon 

70. 

1183

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second  time  


this  day.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trustees' 
Third  Reading  of the  Trustees' Accounts  Bill;  Accounts  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill be  read  the third  time  


this  day.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Parliamentary

oeatss of  ScotlandN
Second  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Seat  8eats Cheers
(Peers  of  Scotland)  Bill ; 
Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dublin  Police 

7 6.

Second  Reading  of  the Dublin  Police  Bill;  

BUL 

Tellers for  the J Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

I  168 

N oes, 

( Sir  Edward  Strachey :  j 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 
Another Amendment  was proposed  to be  made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  13,  1. 24,  by  leaving  out  the 
words  "  being  built  upon  or  by  being,"  and 
inserting  the  words  "  the  erection  of  dwelling-
houses  or  of  buildings  for  the  purposes  of  any
business, trade, or industry other than  agriculture 
(but  including  glasshouses  or  greenhouses),  or 
is  not  otherwise" — (Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to  be left out stand part of  the  Bill:— 
It  passed  in the  Negative. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 

words  be there inserted in  the  Bill; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  said  proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill,  by
leaving  out  the  words "other  than  agriculture." 
—(Mr.  Harold Cox.) 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  said 
proposed  Amendment; 

The  House  proceeded  to  a Division. 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after Twelve of the clock  on  Thursday  morning ; 

Thursday, 21 st  October 1909 : 

The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers for  thej Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

Sir Edward Strachey : 

Tellers for  thefMr.  Harold  Cox, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Agar-Robartes: 

1  ^  ,. 
J 
^  g 3 
J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  words 
"  the  erection  of  dwelling-houses  or of  buildings 
for  the  purposes  of  any  business,  trade,  or 
industry  other  than  agriculture  (but  including
glasshouses  or greenhouses),  or  is not  otherwise' 
be inserted, in lieu of the words omitted, in p. 13,
1.  24,  of  the  Bill:—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Ordered, That  the further consideration  of  the 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Committee,  be  now 
adjourned.—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 
Ordered, That  the  Bill,  as amended, be taken 

into further  consideration  this day. 

^ 
Naval 
Discipline  Bill.  Second  Reading  of  the  Naval  Discipline  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the

VOL.  164. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Union  Officers 

Second  Reading  of  the  Union  Officers (Ireland)  a ^ d)  Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time  


upon  Monday  next.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Assurance 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assurance  Companies  93™Pitnie®  ,
Bill  [Lords]  ; 
[Lord»,\ 

Bill 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  read  a second  time  


this day. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Prisons  


Committee  on  the  Prisons 
[Lords]  ;  


(Scotland)  Bill  (Scotland)


Bill 

[Lords.]

Resolved, That  this  House  will, upon  Monday


next, resolve  itself into the  said  Committee.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  the  Summary

Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction  f^MandT  

(Scotland) Act,  1908, Amendment  Bill  [Lords];  Act, 1908,  

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read  a second  time  B U I^X!]

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Places  of 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship  Worship  ^ 
ment)  (No. 2) 
(Enfranchisement)  (No.   2)  Bill;  

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read  a second time  BllL 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for  taking  Bishopric   of 
into consideration the Bishopric of  Sheffield Bill,  Sheffield  Bill. 
&s amended in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring  Law* 

Second  Reading  of  the  Expiring  Laws  Con- Continuance 
tinuarice  Bill; 

BiU. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second time:—And  a Debate arising  thereupon  ; 

And  notice  being taken that Forty  Members  

were  not present, the House  was  told  by

Mr.  Speaker;  and  Forty  Members  not  

being  present,  the  House  was  adjourned  

by  Mr.  Speaker,  at  twenty-two  minutes  

after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Thursday

morning,  without  a  Question  first  put,

till this day. 


B  3 









Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Supple­
ment   to 
Fifth  Beport. 

Foreign 
Countries 
(Preference  to 
Colonies.) 

No. 296. 

Congested 
Districts 
Board 
(Ireland.) 

Colonial 
Reports 
(Miscel­
laneous.) 

Local 
Government 
Board. 

Finance  Bill 
(Charges  on 
Property.) 

4 94 	

21 st  October. 

1 9 0 9.  

[No. 162. 

[No.  162.]  	

Thursday, 21 st October  1909. 

The  House  met at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three of  the  clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

SE V E R A  L  Public  Petitions  were  presented, 

and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr. Churchill presented,—Return  to an Order, 
dated  the  8th  day  of  December  in  the  last 
Session  of  Parliament,  for  a  Return  showing 
the fiscal advantages at present  given  by France, 
Germany,  Spain,  the  Netherlands,  and  the 
United  States  to  goods  imported  from  their 
Colonial  Possessions,  and,  conversely,  by  the 
said  Colonial  Possessions  to  goods  from  their 
mother  country. 

Ordered, That  the said Return  do  lie  upon the 

Table ;  and  be  printed. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Eighteenth  Report  of  the 
Congested  Districts  Board  for  Ireland  of  Pro­
ceedings  under  the  Congested  Districts  Board 
(Ireland)  Acts,  1891  to  1904,  for  the  year 
ending  31st  March  1909. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,— Copy  of  Report  No.  60  (Nyasaland 
Protectorate),  Report  on  the  results  of  the 
Mineral  Survey,  1907-8.  No.  II.   of  Series. 
By  Professor  Wyndham  Dunstan,  M . A .  ,  L L . D .  , 
F . R . S .,  Director  of the Imperial  Institute. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Burns  presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com-
mand,—Copy  of  Thirty-eighth  Annual  Report 
of  the  Local  Government  Board,  1908-9. 
Part  II.—(a)  County  Council  Administration. 
(b)  Public  Health  and  Local  Administration. 
(c)  Local  Taxation  and  Valuation. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Ordered, That there be  laid  before this  House 
a Return  showing  the amount  of  public  Charges 
leviable  in respect  of  Property  having  a  capital 
value of  £100,  £1,000,  £10,000,  £100,000,  and 
£1,000,000, 
following 
kinds  :— 

respectively,  of 

the 

(a)  Consols; 
(b)  The	   ordinary  shares  of  an 
company  yielding  five  per  cent.; 

industrial 

(c)  Freehold  agricultural  lands  and  buildings 
(assuming buildings to represent  30 per cent, 
of  cost),  the  property  yielding  three  per 
cent.; 

(d)  Long  leaseholds  of urban land, built  upon, 

yielding  four per  cent. 

Under  the  undermentioned  heads  (including 
in  the  case  of  land  and  houses  all  charges, 
whether  levied  upon  owners  or  upon  occu­
piers) :— 

(1)  Stamp Duty  upon conveyance  on  sale; 
(2)  Stamp Duty  upon marriage  settlement; 
(3)  Income  Tax  ; 

(4)  Land  T a x; 

(5)  Inhabited  House  Duty ; 
(6)  Local  rates  (on  an  assumed  average  of 
7s.  in  the  £  for  town  and  4s. in the  £  for 
the  country,  respectively)  ; 

(7)  Death	  Duties  on  one  succession  (i.e.,


Estate  Duty  on  passing  of  the  property  

upon  death  and  legacy  or  succession  duty,  

assuming  it  to  pass  in  one  sum  (a)  to  a  

spouse  or lineal;  (b)  to a stranger  in blood, 

distinguishing  between  (a)  unsettled  estate,  

(b)  settled  estate  on  first  passing,  and 
(c)  settled estate  on  second  or  subsequent  

passings under the same  settlement):—  


(a)  On  the 31st  March  1909 ; 
(b)  Under	  the  Finance  Bill  as  intro­

duced ; 

(c)  Under  the  Finance  Bill  as  amended 

in  Committee. 

—(Mr.  Long.) 

Ordered, That  the  Amendments made by  the  Housing, 

Lords  to the  Housing,  Town  Planning,  & c  .  Bill  Town 
be  taken  into  consideration  to-morrow  ;  and be 
printed. 

BiH 340. 

Ordered,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  issue  his  Armagh 
Warrant  to  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown  in  Ireland,  County 
to  make  out  a  new  Writ  for  the  electing  of  a ^magh) 
Member  to serve  in  this  present  Parliament  for  Writ, 
the  County  of  Armagh  (South  Armagh),  in  the 
room  of  William  M'Killop,  Esquire,  deceased. 
—(Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien.) 

Ordered,  That  the  adjourned  Debate  on  the Expiring 

Question  proposed  upon  the  20th  day  of  this  Laws 
instant  October,  That  the  Expiring  Laws  Con- (^™tinuance 
tinuance  Bill.be  now  read  a  second  time,  be 
resumed  to-morrOw. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a  Message  from 

Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords   b y  the  Lords, 
one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth: 

The  Lords  have, agreed  to  the  Merchandise Merchandise 

Marks (Ireland)  Bill,  without  any  Amendment.  Marks 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Fisheries Fisheries 

(Ireland)  Bill,  without  any  Amendment. 

(Ireland)  Bill. 
The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Wild  Animals Wild  Animals 

in Captivity  Protection  (Scotland)  Bill,  with  an in  Captivity 
Protection 
Amendment;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the (Scotland) 
concurrence  of  this  House. 

Bill. 

(Ireland)  Bill. 

The  Diseases  of  Animals  Bill  [Lords]  was Diseases  of 
read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a Animals  Bill 
second time to-morrow;  and  to be  printed. 

[Lords.] 

r 

Bill 341. 

Mr.  Gibson,  supported  by  Mr.  Clyde,  Mr.  Public  Health 

Halley  Stewart,  Mr.  Younger,  Mr.  Murray  (Scotland) 
Macdonald, and Mr.  Barnes,  presented  a Bill  to Extension 
extend  the  powers  and  provisions  with respeet  Bill, 
to  the  construction  and  carrying  of  sewers  of  Bill 339. 
the  Public  Health  (Scotland)  Act,  1897,  to 
water mains  and  pipes of  statutory  trustees  and 
commissioners of  water  undertakings  :  And  the 
same was ordered  to  be read  a second time  upon 
Monday  the  1st day  of November  next;  and  to 
be  printed. 

The  House, according  to  Order,  proceeded  to  Finance  Bill, 

take into further consideration  the Finance  Bill, 
as amended  in the  Committee. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the Bill, in p.  13,  1. 25, by inserting  at the end 
thereof  the words "  and if  it could  be  developed 
without  causing  to  contiguous  or  adjacent land 
in  the  possession  of  the  same  owner  an injury 

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the  advantage  he  might  be 
countervailing 
expected  to  derive  from  its  development."— 
(Mr.  James Hope.) 

And the Question  being put,  That those words 

be  there inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Bight; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 

Tellers for  the  f M r  >  J a m e  s

'
H o p e  

1 

Yeas 
' 

George Denison

I 
(  Faber:

Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph  Pease,

Noes, 

ICaptain  Norton:

>  49. 
J 
"I  168 
J 

So  it passed  in the  Negative. 
Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 

to the  Bill,  in p.  13,  1. 27, by  leaving  out  para­
graph  (a),  and  inserting  the words  "  Where  any 
land  having  been  so  developed  or used  reverts 
to  the condition  of  undeveloped  land, owing  to 
the buildings  being  abandoned, or  owing  to the 
land ceasing  to  be  used  for  any business, trade, 
or  industry  other  than  agriculture,  it  shall, on 
the  expiration  of  one year  after  the  buildings 
are  so  abandoned  or  the  land  ceases  to  be  so 
used,  as  the  case  may  be, be  treated  as  unde­
veloped  land  for  the  purposes  of  undeveloped 
land duty  until  it is again  so developed or used  " 
—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer),—instead 
thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
proposed  to be  left out stand part  of  the  Bill:— 
It  passed  in the  Negative. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  those 

words be there inserted  in  the  Bill; 

The said proposed  Amendment  to the Bill was 
amended,  in  1.  2,  by  leaving  out  the  words 
"  being  abandoned,"  and  inserting  the  words 
"  becoming  d e r e l i c t a n d,  in  1. 5, by  leaving  out 
the words "  are  so abandoned," and inserting the 
words "  have  so  become  derelict"—(Mr.  Chan­
cellor  Of the Exchequer),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
"  Where  any  land  having  been  so  developed  or 
used  reverts  to  the  condition  of  undeveloped 
land, owing  to  the  buildings  becoming  derelict, 
or owing  to  the land  ceasing  to  be  used  for any 
business, trade, or  industry  other  than  agricul­
ture, it shall, on the  expiration of  one year after 
the  buildings  have  so  become  derelict  or  the 
land  ceases to be  so used, as the case  may  be, be 
treated  as  undeveloped  land  for  the  purposes 
of  undeveloped  land  duty  until  it  is  again  so 
developed  or  used "  be  there  inserted  in  the 
B i l l I  t  was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to the  Bill,  in  p.  13,  1. 38, by inserting,  after the 
word  "  sewers,"  the  words "  or  on  draining  or 
levelling,  or  (in  case of  any land  intended  to  be 
used  solely  for  any  business,  trade, or  industry 
other than agriculture)  on  railway  sidings, tram-
Ways,  quays, or jetties."—(Mr. Renwick.) 

And  the Question being  put, That those  words 

be there inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  House divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
m  n 
Tellers for the I M r_  Q e o r ge  D m U <m  

j.i-  (Mr.  Renwick, 

£ 

Yeas, 

Faber: 

Tellers for the) Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

\ Captain  Norton : 

1
I  g9_
I 

195. 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 
Another  Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to the  Bill,  in p.  13,1.  38, by  inserting, after the 

VOL.  164. 

word  "  sewers," the words "  or in laying  mains." 
—(Mr.  Harold Cox.) 

And  the Question  being  put, That those words 
be  there inserted in  the  Bill:—It  passed  in the 
Negative, 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p.  14,  1. 3, by  leaving  out  from 
the word  "  no "  to  the  end  of  1. 5, and inserting 
the  words  "  expenditure  shall  be  taken  into 
account if  ten years  have  elapsed  since  the date 
of  the  expenditure,  or  if  after  the  date  of  the 
expenditure  the  land,  having  been  developed, 
reverts  to  the  condition  of  undeveloped  land; 
and  in a case  where  the amount  of  the  expendi­
ture  does  not  cover  the  whole  of  the  land 
included  in the  scheme  of Jand development,  the 
part of  the land  to  be treated  as  land  developed 
or  used  as  aforesaid  shall  be  determined  by  the 
Commissioners"—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Ex-
chequer),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the words 
proposed to  be left out  stand  part of  the  Bill:— 
It  passed  in the  Negative. 

And  the  Question being  proposed,  That those 

words be  there inserted  in the  Bill; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made to 
the  said  proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill,  in 
1. 1, by  inserting,  after the  word  "  if," the words 
"  where it  has  been  incurred  before  the  passing 
of  this Act,  twenty years have elapsed  since  the 
date of  the  expenditure,  or  if, where  it  has been 
incurred  after  the  passing  of  this  Act."—(Mr. 
Renwick.) 

And  the Question  being  put, That those words 

be  there  inserted  in the  said  proposed  Amend­
ment to  the  Bill:—It  passed  in the  Negative. 

The  said  proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill 
was amended, by  adding  at  the  end  thereof  the 
words  "  as  being  the  land  with  a view  to  the 
development  or  use  of  which  as  aforesaid  the 
expenditure  has  been in  the main  incurred."— 
(Mr. Masterman.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
"  expenditure  shall  be  taken  into account if  ten 
years have  elapsed  since the date of  the expendi­
ture, or if  after the  date  of  the  expenditure  the 
land,  having  been  developed,  reverts  to  the 
condition  of  undeveloped  land;  and  in  a case 
where  the  amount  of  the expenditure  does  not 
cover  the  whole  of  the  land  included  in  the 
scheme of land development, the part of  the land 
to  be treated  as land developed  or used  as afore­
said  shall  be determined  by  the  Commissioners, 
as being  the  land  with  a  view  to  the  develop­
ment  or use of  which  as aforesaid  the  expendi­
ture  has  been  in  the  main  incurred  "  be  there 
inserted  in  p.  14,  1.  3,  of  the  Bill:—It  was 
resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p.  14,  1. 20,  by  leaving  out  the 
word  "  fifty,"  and  inserting  the  words  "  one 
hundred "—(Mr.  Everett),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 
" fifty "  stand part  of  the  Bill:—It  was resolved 
in  the  Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill, in p,  14,  1. 33, by  inserting, after the 
word  "  benefit," the  words "  or  which,  although 
the  public  have no  access thereto,  are of  benefit 
to  the health  and  well-being  of  the  inhabitants 
of  the locality,  and should  in the public  interest 
remain  unbuilt upon."—(Mr.  Walter  Guinness.) 

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[No. 154. 

And  the Question being  put, That  those words 

be  there inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Bight; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Sir. William  Bull, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Burdett-Coutts: 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 
i Captain Norton : 

Noes, 

1  76. 
/ 

181. 

So  it passed  in the  Negative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  15,  1. 12,  by  inserting  at  the 
end thereof the words "  or where, in the opinion of 
the Commissioners, other circumstances  render it 
probable  that  the  land  will  continue  to  be  so 
used. 

Where  any land  kept  free  from  buildings in 
pursuance  of  any  definite  scheme  has  received 
the  benefit  of  an  exemption  from  undeveloped 
land  duty  by  virtue  of  this  section,  that  land 
shall not  be built upon unless  the Local  Govern­
ment  Board give their consent, onobeing  satisfied 
that it is  desirable  in  the  interests of  the  public 
that  the  restriction  on  building  should  be 
removed;  and  any  such  consent  may  be  given 
subject  to  such  conditions  as  to  the  mode  in 
which  the  land  is to  be built  upon  as  the  Local 
Government  Board  think  desirable  under  the 
circumstances."—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Ex­
chequer.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  those 

words be there  inserted  in the  Bill; 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the  said  proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill,  in 
1.  3,  by  inserting,  after  the  word  "  used,"  the 
words  " f or  the  year  of  assessment."—(Mr. 
Austen  Chamberlain.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted  in  the  said  proposed 
Amendment  to  the  Bill:—The  Amendment  to 
the said  proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill was, 
with leave  of the  House,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill, in 
1. 3,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word  "  used "  to 
the  end of  the proposed  Amendment  to  the  Bill. 
—(Mr.  Henry  Forster.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 

proposed  to  be left out stand part  of  the said  pro­
posed  Amendment; 

The  House  divided. 
The Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton: 

)  ^^ 
j 
) 
( Lord  Edmund Talbot:  j 

39. 

Tellers for the  I Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

So  it was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  words 
"  or where, in the opinion of  the  Commissioners, 
other circumstances render it  probable  that  the 
land  will continue  to be  so used. 

Where  any land  kept free  from  buildings  in 
pursuance  of  any definite  scheme  has  received 
the  benefit  of  an  exemption  from  undeveloped 
land  duty  by  virtue  of  this  section,  that  land 
shall not  be built upon unless the  Local  Govern­
ment Board  give their consent, on being satisfied 
that it  is  desirable  in the interests of  the  public 
that  the  restriction  on  building  should  be 
removed;  and  any  such  consent  may  be  given 
subject  to  such  conditions  as  to  the  mode  in 
which  the  land  is to  be  built  upon  as the  Local 

Government  Board  think  desirable  under  the 
circumstances "  be  there  inserted  in p.  15,  1. 12, 
of the Bill:—It  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the Bill, in  p.  15, by leaving  out Is.  13 and  14. 
—(Mr.  Watson  Rutherford.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the words 
proposed  to  be  left out,  to  the word  "arising," 
in  1. 13, stand part of  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the
Yeas,

  Mr.  Joseph Pease,
Captain  Norton :

Tellers  for the  ( Major  Coates,

Noes, 

( Mr.  Stanier:

)
j 

147. 

)
j  42. 

So  it was resolved  in  the Affirmative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the Bill,  in p.  15,  1. 17, by  inserting,  after the 
word  "  duty,"  the  words  " or  where  the  tenants 
of  two  or  more  houses  have  joint  user  of  a 
garden, on the  site value of  any land  not exceed­
ing  one  acre  in  extent for  each  such  house."— 
(Mr.  Austen,  Chamberlain.) 

And  the Question  being  put, That  those words 

be there inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 

Tellers for  the  ( 
1
Yeasr 
(  L o rd   Balcarres: 
' 

  H ° o d  '

6

-Alexander Acland-  ) 

Tellers for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton : 

47. 

156. 

So it passed in  the  Negative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill, in  p.  15,  1.  23,  by inserting  at  the 
end  thereof  the  words  "  Provided  that  the 
exemption  under  this  provision  shall  not  apply 
so  as to  exempt  more  than five acres, and  where 
the  land, gardens, or  pleasure  grounds  occupied 
together with a dwelling-house  exceed five acres 
in  extent,  those  five  acres  shall  be  exempted 
which  are  determined  by  the  Commissioners  to 
be  most  adapted  for  use  as  gardens  or  pleasure 
grounds in connection  with  the  dwelling-house. 

Where 

the  dwelling-house,  gardens,  and 
pleasure  grounds  are valued  for  the  purpose  of 
income  tax  under  Schedule  A,  together  with 
other 
land,  the  total  annual  value  shall  be 
divided  between  the  dwelling-house,  gardens, 
and pleasure grounds and  the other  land  in such 
manner  as  the  Commissioners  may  determine." 
—(Mr.  Attorney  General.) 

And  the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted  in  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers for thefMr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

tCaptain  Norton : 

Tellers for  the/Mr. Renwick, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Cave : 

J 167. 

j  60. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to the  Bill, in p. 15,1.  23, by inserting  at the end 
thereof the words  "  Where any land  in respect of 
which  undeveloped  land  duty  has  been  paid 

 
 
 
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thereafter  becomes  subject to payment  of  incre­
ment  value  duty  the  Commissioners  shall  allow 
the amount of the undeveloped  land duty so  paid 
to  be  deducted  from  the  amount  claimed  for 
increment  value  duty."—(Mr.  John  Henderson.) 
And  the Question  being  put, That  those words 

be  there inserted  in the  Bill; 

for  the purposes  of  the  collection  of  duty by  the 
amount  which  represents  the  expenditure."— 
(Mr.  Grove.) 

And  the  Question  being proposed,  That  those 
words be  there inserted  in  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the Right  ; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the / Mr.  John Henderson,

Yeas, 

IMr.  Beck : 

Tellers for thej Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
I Captain  Norton : 

Noes, 

So  it passed  in  the  Negative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment  was proposed  to  be made 
to  the Bill,  in p.  17,  1. 26, by inserting,  after  the 
word  "  sand,"  the  words  "  sandstone,  marl."— 
(Mr.  Laurence  Hardy.) 

And  the Question  being  put, That  those words 

be  there  inserted  in the  Bill; 

} 
1163. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  15,  1. 25,  by  leaving  out  the 
word  "  a," and  inserting  the  words "  an  agricul­
tural "—(Mr.  Masterman),—instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  "  a "  stand  part  of  the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House,  withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill, in  p.  16,  1. 19,  by inserting,  after  the 
word " rights," the words " under  a mining  lease." 
—(Mr. Laurence  Hardy.) 

And  the  Question  being put,  That those  words 

be  there inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right  ; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Laurence  Hardy, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Newdegate:  


Tellers for  the  ( Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Noes^ 

( Captain Norton : 

51. 

161. 

So  it passed  in the  Negative. 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment  was proposed  to  be made 
to  the Bill,  in  p.  17,1.  3, by  inserting  at the end 
thereof the words "  Provided that if in any special 
case it is shown to the Commissioners that the rent 
paid  by  a  working 
lessee  exceeds  the  rent 
customary  in  the  district, and  partly  represents 
a  return  for  expenditure  on  the  part  of  any 
proprietor of the  minerals which would  ordinarily 
have  been  borne  by the lessee, the Commissioners 
shall  substitute  as  the  rental value  of  the  right 
to  work  the minerals  or  the  mineral  wayleaves, 
as  the  case  may  be,  such  rent  as  the  Commis­
sioners  determine  would  have  been  the  rent 
customary  in  the  district if  the  expenditure  had 
been  borne  by  the lessee."-—(Mr.  Chancellor  of 
the  Exchequer.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 

words be  there  inserted  in the  Bill: 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Laurence  Hardy, 

Yeas, 

(Sir  John Randies : 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

1Captain Norton-. 

35. 

117. 

So it passed  in the  Negative. 
Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  17,1,  26, by  inserting, after the 
word "  chalk,"  the  words  "stone  used  for  road-
making, building  stone."—(Mr. Newdegate.) 

And  the  Question being put, That  those words 


be there inserted  in  the  Bill;  


The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Nces  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for  the ("Mr. Newdegate, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Walter Guinness: 


Tellers for  the) Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

(Captain  Norton: 

So  it passed  in  the  Negative. 

|  31. 

} l l 3. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made  

to the  Bill,  in  p.  17,  1. 26,  by  inserting, after the  

word  "limestone,"  the  word  "granite."—(Mr.  

John  Henderson.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word  


"  granite "  be there inserted  in the  Bill;  


The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to  the  Left. 

Tellers for  the f Mr.  John  Henderson,  } 35. 

(Mr.  Hunt-.  


Yeas, 

Tellers  for  the J Mr. Joseph Pease, 


1107. 

Noes, 

(Captain  Norton : 


So  it  passed  in  the  Negative.  

Ordered, That  the  further consideration  of  the  

Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Committee,  be  now 
adjourned.—(Mr.  Austen  Chamberlain.) 

Ordered, That  the  Bill,  as amended,  be  taken 

into further consideration  this day. 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after Twelve  of the  clock  on  Friday  morning  •, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Naval 

Second  Reading  of  the  Naval  Discipline  Bill; 

Discipline  BiU, 

Friday,  22nd  October 1909 : 

And the Question  being put:—It  was resolved 

in  the Affirmative. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill, in  p.  17,  1. 3, by  inserting,  after  the 
words  last  inserted,  the  words  "Where  it  is 
shown that the rental value in any case represents 
a  return  for  money  expended,  within  thirty 
years, by  a lessor  in  boring  or  otherwise  proving 
the  minerals  the  rental  value  shall  be  reduced 

YOL.  164. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second  time; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made  to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "  now," 
and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
words  "upon  this  day  three  months."—(Mr. 
Hazleton.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
word  "now "  stand  part  of  the  Question  :—The 
3  s 

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498 

2lst—22nd  October. 

1909. 

[No. 163. 

said  proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of 
the  House,  withdrawn. 

And  the  Main  Question  being  put; 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time :— The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  a  second 
time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
the  whole  House  for  Monday 

Committee  of 
next.—(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

Adjournment.

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  now adjourn.— 

(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit till five minutes  after Two  of 
the  clock  on  Friday  morning,  adjourned 
till  this day. 

[No.  163.] 

Friday,  22nd  October  1909. 

The  House  met  at Twelve  of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

TH E  Colinton  Tramways  Order  Confirmation 

Bill  [Lords] was,  according  to  Order, read 

the third time  and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath agreed  to the same, without  Amendment. 

Several  Public  Petitions  were  presented, and 

read ;  and ordered  to  lie  upon the  Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey presented, by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  and 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  No. 4375. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Oolinton 
Tramways 
Order 
Confirmation 
[Lords.] 
Bill 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Supple­
ment   to 
F i f th  Beport. 
Trade  Beports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Local 
Taxation 
Returns 
(England  and 
Wales.) 

No. 298. 

Mr. Burns  presented,  pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—Annual 
Local Taxation Returns  for England  and  Wales 
for the  year  1906-7.  Parts  V.  to  VIII. 

Ordered, That the  said  Paper  do  lie "upon  the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Reformatory 
and  Industrial 
Schools  (Great 
Britain.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command, —  Copy  of  Fifty-second 
Report  of  His  Majesty's  Inspector  of  Reforma­
tory  and  Industrial  Schools, for  the year  1908. 
Part  II.  General  Report  and  Appendices  III. 
to   X . 

Factory  and  • 
Workshop  Acts 
(Special 
Exception— 
Overtime 
Employment 
on  Incomplete 
Process.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone also  presented,  pur­
suant  to  the  directions of  an Act  of  Parliament, 
—Copy  of  Order,  dated  20th  October  1909, 
made  by  the  Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home 
Department  in pursuance  of  Section  126  of  the 
Factory  and Workshop  Act,  1901, revoking  the 
Order  of  the  20th  December  1882,  granting 
special  exception  from  Overtime  Employment 
on  incomplete  Process. 

Ordered, That the  said Papers do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Financial 
Statement 
(1909-10.) 

N o.  2 9 7. 

Ordered, That there  be laid  before this  House 
a  Copy  of  Revised  Estimates  of  Revenue  and 
Expenditure 
for  the  year  1909-10.  —  (Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Exchequer  accordingly 

presented  the  said  Paper. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table ;  and be  printed. 

The  House, according  to  Order,  proceeded  to  Finance  Bill, 

take  into further consideration  the Finance  Bill, 
as amended  in  the  Committee. 

Other  Amendments  were  made  to  the  Bill.  

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  18,  1. 13, by  inserting,  

after the  word  "  Act,"  the  words  "  or  in respect 

of any  minerals  which  are  exempt  from mineral 

rights  duty  under  this  Act."—(Mr.  James 
Hope.) 


And the Question  being  put, That those words 

be  there  inserted  in the Bill:—It  passed  in  the  

Negative. 


Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the  


Bill. 


Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  18,  1. 37,  by  inserting  at 
the  end  thereof  the  words  " If  in  any  special 
case  it  is  shown  to the  Commissioners  that  the 
rental  value  on  which  mineral  rights  duty  is 
charged  represents  in  part  a  return  for money 
expended,  within  fifteen  years,  by  a  lessor  in 
boring  or  otherwise  proving  the  minerals,  the 
rental  value shall be reduced  for the purposes  of 
the  collection  of  increment  value  duty  by  the 
amount  which  represents  that  return."—(Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the  Exchequer.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  those 

words  be there inserted in the  Bill; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to be  made  to 
the said proposed Amendment  to  the Bill, in 1.1, 
by  leaving  out  the  word  "  special."  —  (Lord 
Balcarres.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That the  word 
"  special"  stand  part  of  the  said  proposed 
Amendment  to  the  Bill;—It  passed 
in  the 
Negative. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  said  proposed  Amendment  to  the 
Bill,  as  amended,  in  1.  3,  by  leaving  out  the 
words 
fifteen  years."  —  (Viscount 
Castlereagh.) 

"within 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the said 
proposed  Amendment,  as amended ; 

The  House  divided 
The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes to the  Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton ; 


|  106. 

Tellers for the (Viscount Castlereagh, 


Noes, 

I Sir John  Randies : 

) 

2 4. 

So  it  was resolved in the Affirmative. 
And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
"  If  in  any case it  is shown  to the  Commissioners 
that  the  rental  value  on  which  mineral  rights 
duty  is  charged  represents  in  part a return for 
money expended, within fifteen years, by  a lessor 
in  boring  or  otherwise proving  the  minerals, the 
rental  value  shall be  reduced  for the  purposes  of 
the  collection  of  increment  value  duty  by  the 
amount which represents that return "  be inserted 
in  p.  18,  at  the  end of  1. 37:—It  was  resolved 
in the Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to  be made 

to the  Bill,  in  p.  19,  1.  30,  by  inserting  at  the  

end  thereof  the  words  "  Provided  that  the  

Commissioners  shall  allow  as  a deduction from 

the  total  value  of  the  minerals  any  sum which  

the  working of such minerals would  detract  from  

the  site  value  of  the  land  wherein  they  are  

comprised."—(Mr.  James Hope.) 


And  the  Question being put, That those words 

be  there inserted  in  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 





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22nd October. 

4 99 


The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to the  Left. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  James  Hope, 

)  32, 

Yeas, 

( Viscount  Castlereagh :  j 

Tellers for the  ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain  Norton: 

)  j  ^ 
j 

So it passed  in  the  Negative. 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  19,1.  37, by  inserting,  after the 
word  "  value,"  the  words "  and the capital value 
so  returned  shall  be  treated  as  the  original 
capital  value  of  the  minerals." —  (Sir  John 
Randies.')

And  the  Question  being put, That those words 
be there  inserted  in  the  Bill  :—It  passed  in  the 
Negative. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  19,1.  41,  by  inserting  at the 
end thereof  the  words— 

"  (3)  The  provisions  of  this Part  of  this  Act 
with  respect  to  valuation  shall  not  apply  to 
minerals  which  were,  on  the  thirtieth  day  of 
April  nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  either  com­
prised  in  a mining  lease  or being  worked by  the 
proprietor,  so long  as they  are for the time  being 
either  comprised  in  a  mining  lease  or  being 
worked  by  the  proprietor."—(Mr.  Attorney 
General.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word  


"  buildings "  stand  part of  the  Bill;  


The  House  divided.  

The Yeas  to the  Right;  

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the fMr. Joseph  Pease, 

^133 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

J 

Tellers for  thJ8iv  Alexander  Acland­

43. 

Noes 
' 

i 
(Mr,  Henry  Forster  :  .  

So  it was resolved  in the  Affirmative.  

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

' 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  22,  1. 9, by  leaving  out 
from the word  "  neighbourhood "  to  the end  of 
subsection  (3)  of  Clause  25.—(Mr. James  Hope.) 
And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed  to  be  left out  stand part  of  the 
Bill  :—The  said proposed  Amendment  was, with 
leave of the  House,  withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in p.  22,  1. 15, by  leaving  out 
the word  "  directly."—(Mr.  Idris.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  word 

"  directly "  stand part of  the  Bill  ; 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 

The  House  divided. 

words be  there inserted  in the  Bill; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the said proposed  Amendment to the  Bill, in  1. 5,
by  adding  at  the  end  thereof  the  words  "nor 
shall such  provisions apply  to any minerals which 
cease for a  temporary  period  to  be comprised  in 
a mining lease  or  to  be  worked,  so  long  as  the 
period does  not  exceed  two  years."—(Sir John 
Randies.) 

And  the  Question being  put, That those words 

be  there  added  to  the  said  proposed  Amend­
ment  to  the  Bill;—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

And the Question being put, That the words — 
"  (3)  The  provisions  of  this Part  of  this  Act 
with  respect  to  valuation  shall  not  apply  to 
minerals  which  were,  on  the  thirtieth  day  of 
April  nineteen  hundred  and  nine,  either  com­
prised  in a mining lease  or  being  worked  by  the 
proprietor,  so  long  as  they  are  for  the  time 
being  either  comprised  in  a  mining  lease  or 
being  worked  by  the  proprietor,  nor  shall  such 
provisions  apply  to  any  minerals which  cease  for 
a  temporary  period  to  be  comprised  in  a mining 
lease  or  to  be  worked,  so long as the period  does 
not  exceed  two  years"  be  inserted  in  p.  19, 
at  the  end  of  1.  41 :—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  21,  1.  13,  by  leaving  out the 
words  "  being  worked  by  a lessee," and inserting 
the words "comprised  in  a mining  lease "—(Sir 
John Randies),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That the 
words  proposed  to  be  left  out stand part  of  the 
Bill  :—The  said proposed Amendment  was, with 
leave  of  the  House,  withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  21,1.  36, by  leaving  out 
the  word  "buildings,"  and  inserting  the  word 
"  land "—(Mr.  James  Hope),—instead  thereof. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Yeas   to  the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the Left. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for  the f Mr.  Wills, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Bertram: 

1 141  

J 
V 
J 

So  it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the  further  consideration  of  the 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Committee,  be  now 
adjourned.—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the  Exchequer.) 
Ordered, That  the  Bill,  as  amended,  be  taken 

into further  consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for resuming  Expiring  Laws 

the adjourned  Debate  on  the  Question  proposed  Continuance 
upon  the 20th  day of  this instant  October,  That   1 " 
the  Expiring  Laws  Continuance  Bill  be  now 
read a  second  time; 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed  :— 
The  House  resinned  the  said adjourned  Debate. 

And  the  Question  being  put; 
Ordered, That  the  Bill  be now  read a second 
time :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  a  second 
time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Monday 
next.—(Captain  Norton.) 

Resolved, That  this  House  do  now  adjourn.—  Adjournment. 

(Captain  Norton.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  twenty-nine  minutes  

before  Six  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  

Monday  next.  


3  S  2 













500 

25th  October.  	

1909. 

[No. 164. 

[No.  164.] 

Monday, 25th  October  1909, 

The  House met  at a quarter  of  an  hour 
before  Three  of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

Public  AP U B L I  C  Petition was  presented, and  read; 

and  ordered  to lie upon  the  Table. 

Petitions. 
Vide  Supple­
ment  to 
Fifth  Beport. 

Colonial 
Beports 
(Annual.) 

Colonial 
Beports 
(Miscel­
laneous.) 

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904.  	

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Colonial  Report,  No.  617 
(Hong  Kong,  Annual  Report  for  1908). 

Copy  of  Colonial  Report,  No.  61  (South 
Africa,  Report  on  Agriculture  and  Viticulture 
in  South  Africa, by  Lord  Blyth. 

Ordered, That  the  said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
Metropolitan  Borough  of  Kensington  under 
the  Shop  Hours  Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  by 
the  Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Depart­
ment,  fixing  the  hours  of  closing  for  certain 
classes  of  Shops. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Burns presented,  pursuant  to  the  direc-
Local 
tions  of  an  Act   of  Parliament,—Copy  of  the 
Taxation 
Returns 
(England  and  Annual  Local  Taxation  Returns  for  England 
Wales.) 

and  Wales  for the  year  1907-8.  Part I. 

No. 299. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper do  lie  upon  the 

Table ;  and  be  printed. 

Fisheries

(Ireland.)

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of  Report  of  the  Department 
of  Agriculture  and  Technical  Instruction  for 
Ireland  on  the  Sea  and  Inland  Fisheries  of 
Ireland  for  1908. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Education 
The  Lord  Advocate  presented,  by  His 
(Scotland.)  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Minute  of  the 
Committee of  Council  on Education  in  Scotland, 
dated  25th  October  1909,  sanctioning  the  pay­
ment by  School  Boards  out  pf  the  School  Fund 
of  expenditure  incurred  for  certain  purposes. 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Supreme 
The  following  Paper,  pursuant  to  the  direc-
Court  (Rules.)  tions of  an Act  of  Parliament, was  laid  upon  the 
Table  by  the  Clerk  of  the  House  :—Copy  of 
Rules  of the  Supreme  Court, dated 21st October 
1909. 

Message  from  Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
the  Lords.  Message  had  been  brought from the  Lords  by 

one of  their  Clerks,  as followeth: 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Weeds  and 

Weeds  and 
Agricultural  Agricultural  Seeds (Ireland)  Bill, with  Amend­
/t6*3!8 
(Ireland)  Bill. 

ments ; to which the Lords desire the concurrence 
of  this  House. 

,.  ,,  .   ' T T 

CardifE 
Oorporation 
Bl11­  

The  Lords have agreed  to the  Cardiff  Corpo-
ration  Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which  the 
Lords  desire the  concurrence  of  this  House. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments  made  by  the 
Weeds  and 
Agricultural  Lords  to  the  Weeds  and  Agricultural  Seeds 
(Ireland)  Bill.  (Ireland)  Bill  be  taken  into  consideration  to-

Bill 343.  morrow ;  and be  printed. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented  a  Bill  to  Police 

facilitate  the  proceedings  of'  any  Commissioner (^^"P®0^.^ 
who  may  be  appointed  to  hold  an  Inquiry 
respecting  the  conduct  of  the  Police  of the  City 
of  Liverpool  in  dealing  with  disturbances of  the 
peace  in  that  city  during  the  twelve  months 
preceding  the  passing  of  this  A c t:  And  the 
same was ordered  to  be  read  a second  time  to­
morrow ;  and  to  be  printed. 

The  House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to  Finance  Bill, 

take into  further consideration  the  Finance  Bill, 
as amended  in the  Committee. 

Other Amendments  were  made  to  the  Bill. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  23,  1. 23, by  leaving  out 
from  the  word  "  and"  to  the  word  "  and,"  in 
1. 24, and inserting  the  words  "  as  to  the title, 
area, character, and  use of the land, and the  con­
sideration  given  on any previous  sale or lease  of 
the  land,  and  any  other  matters  which  may 
properly  be  required  for  the  purpose  of  the 
valuation  of  the  land"—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the 
Exchequer),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
roposed to be  left out stand part of  the  Bill:— 
t passed  in the  Negative. 

P

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 

words  be there  inserted  in  the Bill  ; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made  to 
the  said proposed  Amendment,  inl.  1, by leaving 
out  the  word  "  title,"  and  inserting  the  words 
"ownership,  tenure"—(Mr.  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  word 
"  title "  stand  part of the  said proposed  Amend­
ment :—It  passed  in the  Negative. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
"  ownership,  tenure "  be  there  inserted in the said 
proposed  Amendment:—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  as 
amended, in  1. 1, by  leaving  out  the  words  "  the 
consideration  given  on  any previous  sale  or  lease 
of  the  land, and."—(Mr.  Bertram.)

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the  words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  said 
proposed  Amendment,  as amended; 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas,. 
£ 

m  n 
Tellers  for  the   M  r  G e o r ge   Unison 

I Captain  Norton: 
( Mr.  Bertram, 

JNoeS' 

(  Faber: 

)  .  „p
) 
' 
)


55. 

) 

So it was resolved  in the  Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  as 
amended,  in  1.  2,  by  inserting, after  the  word 
"land,"  the words  " so  far  as  required  for  the 
purpose  of  ascertaining any  of the  thirteen  kinds 
of  values  mentioned  in this  Act."—(Mr. Austen 
Chamberlain.)

And  the  Question being  put, That  those  words 

be  there inserted  in  the  said  proposed  Amend­
ment,  as  amended; 

The House  divided. 
The  Yeas to the  Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for the  ( Mr.  Henry  Forster, 

Yeas, 

) 
( Lord  Edmund Talbot : j

56. 

Tellers for the  f Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
( Captain  Norton : 


Noes, 

So it  passed  in  the  Negative.  


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No. 164. j  9  E D W.  V I I. 

25th  October. 

And the Question being put, That  the  words 
"  as  to  the  ownership,  tenure,  area,  character, 
and use  of  the land, and the consideration  given 
on any previous sale or lease of the land, and any 
other  matters  which  may properly  be  required 
for the purpose  of the valuation  of  the land "  be 
inserted  after  the  word  "  and,"  in p. 23,  1. 23, 
of the Bill:—It  was resolved in the Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the Bill, in p. 29,1. 27, by inserting, after the 
word  "  authority,"  the words  "  or  by any  body 
corporate recognised by the Treasury  as working 
for public utility,  and  not' dividing any profit  to 
its members other than a limited  rate  of interest 
approved  by the Treasury  in each  case."—(Mr. 
Austen  Chamberlain.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted  in the  Bill:—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  29,  1. 33,  by  inserting  at  the 
end thereof  the words— 

"  (2)  No  reversion  duty shall  be  charged  on 
the determination  of  a lease granted  by a rating 
authority  in respect  of the period only while the 
rating authority retains the freehold interest, and 
the value  of the benefit accruing  to the  lessor in 
respect of  any such lease shall  be deemed  to  be 
the amount  by which the total value of the land, 
at  the  time  the  lease  determines,  exceeds  the 
amount paid  to such authority for their interest 
in the lease."—(Mr.  Walter Guinness.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 
be there inserted  in the Bill:—It  passed  in  the 
Negative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the Bill,  in p. 30,1.  6,  by inserting, after  the 
word  "  paid,"  the words  "  or  any charge  based 
on a capital  sum is or has  been payable."—(Mr. 
Walter Guinness.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted in the  Bill :-—It  passed  in  the 
Negative. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 30,1.  16,  by  leaving  out  the 
words "  or any interest in land."—(Mr.  Attorney 
General.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words  proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the 
B i l l : — T he  said  proposed  Amendment  was,  with 
leave  of  the  House,  withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to the Bill, in p. 30,1.  19,  by inserting, after the 
word "  body,"  the words "  and no reversion duty 
or undeveloped land duty under this Part  of this 
Act  shall  be charged  in respect  of  land  or any 
interest in  land' held  by any university, college, 
or endowed school,  or society constituted for the 
advancement  of  science,  literature,  or  the fine 
arts, the  income  of  which  is  exclusively applic­
able for the purposes of that body."—(Sir Philip
Magnus.) 

501 

75. 

)
j 
I  196 
) 

Tellers for the j  Sir Philip Magnus, 

Yeas, 

{ Sir  Henry  Craik: 
Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain Norton: 

So it passed in the Negative. 
Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  30,  1.  24,  by inserting  at  the 
end  thereof  the words '' but no increment value 
•duty shall  be collected  on  the sale of  any such 
land, or of any interest therein, in any case where 
the proceeds  of such sale are invested within six 
months in the purchase  of other land,  or  of some 
interest  in  other  land,  to  be  held  for  similar 
charitable purposes."—(Mr. Rawlinson.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 
be there inserted  in the  Bill:—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the Bill,  in p. 30,1.  32,  by inserting, after the 
word "  society,"  the words "  or by  a company or 
body  of persons incorporated  by the Joint Stock 
Companies  Acts,  1862  to  1900,  or  by  a special 
Act,  and  precluded  by  its  memorandum  of 
association  or  Act  from  dividing  any  profit 
amongst its members."—(Sir John Jardine.) 

And the Question  being proposed, That those 
words  be  there inserted  in the  Bill:—The said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to the Bill,  in p. 36,  1. 3,  by inserting  at the end 
thereof the words— 

" ( 2)  The provisions  of section twenty  of  this 
Act (which  refers  to mineral  rights  duty) shall 
be subject  to  the following modification, that  is 
to  say,  that  any  proprietor  or  lessor  of  any 
minerals  who  is  liable  as  such  proprietor  or 
lessor  to  pay any local  rates  in respect  of such 
minerals  shall  be. entitled  to  deduct  from  the 
annual value  of  his mineral rights  on which  the 
duty  is charged  such  amount  as  in any year  he 
has  paid  upon  them  in  respect  of  such  local 
rates."—(Mr.  Younger.) 

And the Question being put, That  those words 

be there inserted  in the  Bill; 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas to the  Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Younger, 

Yeas, 

( Sir Henry  Craik : 
Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain Norton : 

1  49 
) 
) 
j 

lg8


So it passed in the Negative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the further consideration of the 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Committee,  be  now 
adjourned.—(Mr.  Chancellor of the Exchequer.) 
Ordered, That the Bill,  as amended,  be taken 

into further consideration to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Education 

Second Reading  of  the Education (Administra­
tive Provisions) Bill  [Lords] ; 

Provisions) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time BiU  E-^*-! 

And  the  Question being put, That those  words 

to-morrow. 

be  there inserted  in  the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left.  


V o l.  164.  


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Naval  

£m?pli,ie 

Committee  on the Naval Discipline Bill; 

Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

resolve itself  into the said Committee.  


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502 	

25th—26th  October. 

1909. 

[No. 164. 

CXntta°anceWS 
^ontinuance  Committee o n  the  Expiring  Laws  Continuance  Second Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort-

being  read,  for  the 

T h  e  0 r d e  r   o f  t h  e 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 

Bill; 	

gages  B i l l; 

Bill. 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Thursday 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

next, resolve itself into the said Committee. 

to-morrow. 

Parliamentary  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Seats (Peers of  Second  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Seats 
Scotland)

(Peers  of  Scotland)  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House without  Question put, pursuant  to  

the Order of the  House  of  the  20th day  

of August last, it being then five minutes 

after Eight  of  the clock, till to-morrow.  


Dublin Police
B,H-

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of the Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

upon Monday next. 

Union Officers 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
(Ireland) Bill.  g e c o n c i  Reading  of  the  Union  Officers  (Ireland) 

[No.  1 6 5 .] 

Tuesday, 26th   October 1909. 

The House met at a quarter  of  an hour 

before Three  of the clock. 


Bill; 

P R A Y E R S. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read a second time 

upon Monday next. 

Prisons 
(Scotland) 
Bill [Lords,*]

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on  the  Prisons  (Scotland)  Bill 
[Lords]  ; 

Resolved,  That this House will, upon  Monday 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Housing,
Town
Panning, &c.

The Order  of  the  day being  read,  for taking 
jnto  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by 
^ 
L o r ds   t o  t h jj  H o u s i n gj  T o wn   Planning,  &c. 

Ordered, That the said Amendments  be  taken 

into consideration to-morrow. 

Diseases of 
Animals Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of the Diseases  of  Animals Bill 
[Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Coal Mines 
Regulation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  thex day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the Coal  Mines  Regulation 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

upon Monday next. 

THE  House,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the Cardiff 

House  of  the  2nd  day  of  August  last, Corporation 

proceeded  to 
Amendments made  by  the Lords to the Cardiff 
Corporation Bill;  and the same were twice read, 
and agreed to. 

into  consideration  the  '  ' 

take 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry  the Bill to 
the  Lords ;  and  acquaint them  that  this House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made by their 
Lordships. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His Factory and 

Majesty's  Command,-Copy  of  Report  to  the  J g j ^P 
Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department, Workshops.) 
by  His  Honour  Judge  Ruegg,  K.C.,  as  to  the 
application  of  the  Factory and Workshop  Act, 
1901, to Florists'  Workshops. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 


Table. 


Mr.  Runciman  presented,  pursuant  to  the Naval and 
directions  of several Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy  Marine Pay 
of  Five Orders in Council under the Naval  and ^

^J0113 
Marine  Pay  and  Pensions  Act,  1865,  dated 
18th October 1909.  


Copy  of Orders  in Council  under the Foreign Foreign 
Jurisdiction  Act,  1890,  dated  18th  October  J uI i s^ 0 T1 
Act,  1890. 
i g o  9	 

Trustees' 
Accounts Bill.  Third  Reading  of  the  Trustees'  Accounts  B i l l; 

The Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read the third time 

upon Monday next. 

Assurance 
Companies 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assurance  Companies 
Bill  [Lords]; 

1.	  Extending  to  Cyprus  and British Protec­

torates  the  Evidence  (Colonial  Statutes)  

Act,  1907 ; 


2.	  Conferring  Admiralty  Jurisdiction  on the  

Supreme Court  of  Northern  Nigeria under 

the  Colonial  Courts  of  Admiralty  Act,  

1890 ; 


3.	  The  China and Corea  (Amendment) Order 


Ordered,  That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 

in Council,  1909;  


upon Thursday next. 

Summary 
Jurisdiction 
(Scotland) 
Act, 1908, 
Amendment 
Bill  [Lords.] 

The  Order  of  tbe  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction 
(Scotland)  Act,  1908, Amendment  Bill [Lords]-, 
Ordered, That the  BiU be read  a  second time 

upon Monday  next. 

Places  of

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

f

(Enfranchise-
ment) (No. 2)  (Enfranchisement)  (No.   2)  B i l l; 
BilL 

- ^ 

* } « »*  

Ordered, That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

° f 

W o t M * 

Table. 


4.	  The Zanzibar  Order  in Council,  1909; 
5.	  The  North  Eastern  Rhodesia  Order  in  


Council,  1909;  


6.	  The Barotziland  North  Western Rhodesia  


Order  in Council,  1909;  


7.	  The Bechuanaland Protectorate  and South­

ern Rhodesia Amending  Order  in  Council,  

1909 ; 


8.	  The  Swaziland Order  in Council,  1909. 
Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 


upon Thursday next. 

The  Order of  the day being read,  for  taking 
Bishopric of 
Sheffield Bill.  into consideration the Bishopric of Sheffield Bill, 

as amended  in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  upon  Thursday  next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking  Finance Bill, 

into  further  consideration  the  Finance  Bill,  as 
amended in the Committee ; 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  

made  to  the  Bill,  in p. 36,1.  28,  by leaving out  

Clause 43.—(Mr.  Younger.)  


 
 
 
 
 




165.]  9  EDW.  Y I I. 

26th  October. 

And the Question  being put.  That  the  words 

proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "  or,"  in 
1. 29, stand  part of the Bill; 

The House divided. 

The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the I Mr. Joseph Pease, 
1  Captain Norton : 

Yeas, 

)  213 
| 

Tellers for the ( 
Noes, 

-Alexander Acland-

) 

\Hood, 
(  Viscount  Valentia: 

)

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p. 37,1.  7, by leaving  out 
from  the  word  "licence"  to  the  end  of  sub­
section (1)  of  Clause 44.—(Mr.  Peel) 

And the Question being  put,  That  the words 
"  and  in  the determination  of that value "  stand 
part of the Bill; 

503 
agreement and approval  in cases where compen­
sation  is payable under that Act,  but there shall 
not  be included  in the value  of  the  premises as 
licensed  premises  any  amount  on  account  of 
depreciation  of  trade  fixtures. 

The  annual  licence value  shall  be fixed and 
certified "  —  (Mr.  Herbert  Samuel), —  instead 
thereof. 

And  the Question  being put, That the words 

proposed to be left out stand part of the Bill :— 
It passed in the Negative. 

91. 

And the Question being proposed, That those 

words be there inserted  in the  Bill; 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be made to 

the said proposed Amendment, in  1. 5,  by insert­
ing,  after  the  first  word  "  the,"  the  word 
"  annual."—(Mr.  Salter.) 

And  the Question  being  put,  That  the word 

"  annual"  be  there  inserted  in  the  said  pro­
posed  Amendment: — It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 

The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the ( Mr.  Peel, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Goulding: 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to the Bill,  in p. 37,1. 8, by inserting, after 
the word "  value,"  the words "  any increase  in." 
—(Mr.  Samuel Roberts.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted in the Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Samuel Roberts, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Gretton  : 

Tellers for the j Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain Norton : 

48, 

174. 

So it passed in the Negative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to  the  Bill,  in  p. 37,  1. 10,  by leaving  out 
subsection  (2)  of  Clause 44.—(Mr.  Salter.) 

And the Question being  put, That  the  words 

proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  word  "as,"  in 
1. 11, stand part  of the Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 
c 

m „ 
Tellers for the |  M r> 

) 
( Sir Edward  Strachey: J 

( Mr.  Salter,


D e n i s on 

Noes, 

Faber : 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended, 
in  1. 6,  by leaving  out  from  the word  "  as "  to 
the end of  1. 11, and inserting the words "on the 
valuation  of  an estate for  the  purpose  of  estate 
duty "—(Mr.  Gretton),—instead  thereof. 

180. 

64. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 
words proposed to  be left out, to "  1904,"  in  1. 8, 
stand  part  of  the said  proposed  Amendment, as 
amended  The  Amendment  to  the  said  pro­
posed Amendment, as amended, was, with  leave 
of  the House, withdrawn. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended, 
in  1. 9,  by inserting, after  the word  "  Act,"  the 
words  "except  that  in  the  calculation  of  the 
annual  licence  value  for  the  purposes  of  this 
Act  the  value  of  the  goodwill  shall  not  be 
included."— (Mr.  Salter.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there  inserted  in  the said  proposed  Amend­
ment,  as amended; 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr. Salter, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Gretton:  


Tellers for the j Mr. Joseph  Pease,  


Noes, 

1 Captain Norton : 

So it passed  in the Negative. 

J  69. 

|  175. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  said proposed  Amendment,  as  amended, 
by  adding  at  the  end  thereof  the  word  "  an­
nually."—(Mr.  James  Hope) 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the word 

184. 

72. 

"  annually "  be  there added :—it  passed  in  the 
Negative. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 37,1.  11, by leaving  out from 
the  word  "  register "  to  the  end  of  1.  20,  and 
inserting the words "  showing the annual licence 
value  of all fully licensed premises and all beer-
houses. 

For the  purpose  of  this  provision  the annual 
licence value shall be taken to  be the amount by 
which  the  annual  value  of  the  premises  as 
licensed  premises  exceeds  the  value  which  the 
premises  would  bear  if  they were  not  licensed 
premises,  those values  being  calculated  on  the 
same  basis  as  that  on which  the amount  to  be 
paid  as  compensation  under section  two  of  the 
Licensing  Act,  1904,  is calculated  in  default of 

VOL.  164. 

And  the Question  being put, That  the words 

"  showing  the  annual  licence value  of  all fully 
licensed premises and all beerhouses. 

For  the  purpose of  this  provision  the annual 
licence value shall  be taken to  be the amount by 
which  the  annual  value  of  the  premises  as 
licensed  premises  exceeds  the  annual  value 
which the premises would  bear if they were not 
licensed  premises, those values  being calculated 
on  the same  basis  as  that  on which  the amount 
to  be  paid  as compensation  under  section  two . 
of  the  Licensing  Act,  1904,  is  calculated  in 
default  of  agreement  and  approval  in  cases 
where compensation  is  payable under  that Act, 
but  there  shall  not  be included  in  the value of 
3  s  4 

504 

26th—27 th  October. 

1909. 

[Hex 165. 

the  premises  as  licensed  premises  any amount  on 
account  of  depreciation  of  trade  fixtures. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill,  as amended, be taken 

into further consideration to-morrow. 

The  annual  licence value  shall  be fixed and 
certified "  be  inserted,  in  lieu  of  the  words 
omitted,  in p. 37,  1. 11,  of the Bill; 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas   to  the  E i g h t; 

The  Noes   to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the j  Viscount  Valentia, 
( Mr. Henry  Forster: 

Noes, 

) 
j 

So  it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the Bill, in p. 37,  1. 22,  by inserting, after the 
word  "  and,"  the  words  "  those  Commissioners 
shall  send  by post  a  copy  of  the  certificate  to 
the  licence-holder,  and  on  the  application  of 
any  other  person  who  appears  to  them  to  be 
interested  in the  premises furnish a copy of  the 
certificate to hirn."—(Mr.  Herbert Samuel.) 

And the Question  being proposed, That those 

words be there inserted  in the Bill; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  in  L  1,  by 
inserting, after the word "  shall,"  the words "  not 
later than the first day  of July  in  England  and 
Ireland  and  the first day  of  March in Scotland 
in any year."—(Mr.  Samuel Roberts.) 

And  the  Question  being put,  That  those  words 
be  there  inserted  in  the  said  proposed  Amend­
ment  : — It  passed   in  the  Negative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  in  i.  2,  by 
inserting, after the word "  certificate,"  the words 
"  (and  in  case  any  correction  is  subsequently 
made  in  the  amount  certified,  a  copy  of  the 
corrected certificate)."—(Mr.  James  Hope.) 

And the  Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted  in  the said  proposed  Amend­
ment :—It  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended, 
in  1.  2,  by  inserting,  after  the  word  "  licence-
holder,"  the  words  "together  with  a  statement 
showing the basis  on which the amount has been 
determined."—(Mr.  Samuel  Roberts.) 

And the Question  being proposed, That those 
words  be  there  inserted  in  the  said  proposed 
Amendment,  as  amended:—The  said  proposed 
Amendment  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  as 
amended,  was,  with  leave  of  the  House,  with­
drawn. 

The  said  proposed  Amendment,  as amended, 
was further  amended,  in  1. 2,  by inserting, after 
the word  "  licence-holder,"  the  words  "  stating 
the two annual values  by reference to which the 
annual licence value has been arrived at "—(Mr. 
Solicitor  General);  and,  in  1.  4,  by  inserting, 
after  the  word  "  certificate,"  the  words  "  or 
corrected certificate."—(Mr. James  Hope.) 

And  the Question  being put,  That the words 
"  those Commissioners shall send by post  a copy 
of  the certificate (and  in case  any correction  is 
subsequently  made  in  the  amount  certified,  a 
copy of the corrected  certificate) to the  licence-
holder, stating the two annual values by reference 
to  which  the  annual  licence  value  has  been 
arrived  at,  and  on  the  application  of  any other 
person who appears to  them  to  be interested  in 
the premises furnish  a copy  of  the certificate or 
corrected  certificate  to  him "  be  inserted  after 
the word "  and,"  in p. 37,  1. 22,  of the Bill :  - It 
was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

The House, according  to Order, proceeded  to Weeds and 

take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made 
by  the  Lords   to  the  Weeds  and  Agricultural  (Ireland)  Bill. 
Seeds  (Ireland) Bill;  and  the  same  were twice 
read, and agreed to. 

Ordered,  That the Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 
the Lords;  and acquaint them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the Amendments made  by  their 
Lordships. 

164. 

58. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Education 

Second Reading  of  the  Education  (Administra­
tive  Provisions) Bill  [Lords]   ; 

Provisions) 
Ordered, That  the Bill  be read a  second  time Bili  O ^ * .] 

to-morrow. 

The  Police  (Liverpool  Inquiry)  Bill  was, Police 

according  to Order, read a second time. 

inqulry)°Bill 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the whole House for to-morrow.— 
(Mr.  Solicitor  General.) 

The House, according  to Order, resolved itself 

into a Committee  on the Naval  Discipline Bill,  BIIL 

(In  the  Committee.) 

Clause  No.  1  (Detention   to  be  substituted  for 
imprisonment  as  punishment  for  offences  against 
discipline). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  1,  1. 9,  to leave 
out the words "  added to,"  in order to insert  the 
words "  substituted for."—(Mr.  Hay.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the words  proposed 

to be left out stand part  of the Clause : 

Wednesday, 27th  October 1909: 

Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Clause  agreed  to. 
Clause No.  2 agreed to. 
Clause No. 3 (Short title and commencement). 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  2,  1. 26,  to leave 
out  the word  "  eleven,"  in  order  to  insert  the 
word "  ten."—(Mr.  Hay.) 

Question proposed,  That  the  word  "  eleven " 
stand part  of  the Bill :—Amendment,  by leave, 
withdrawn. 

Clause agreed to. 
Schedule agreed to. 
Bill to be reported. 

Mr.  Speaker. resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy Chairman reported, That the Committee 
had  gone  through  the  Bill,  and  directed  him 
to report the same, without Amendment. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be now read  the  third 
time :—The  Bill was accordingly read  the third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry the Bill to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a Message from 

Message  had  been brought from  the  Lords  by the Lords, 
one  of their Clerks,  as followeth : 

The Lords have agreed to the Health  Resorts Health 
and  Watering  Places  (Ireland)  Bill,  with  an ^ebt01ts and 
Amendment;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the place"1"8 
concurrence  of  this  House. 

(Ireland) Bill. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Irish  L a nd   Irish Land 

Bill,  with  Amendments;  to  which  the  LordsBli1­
desire the concurrence  of this House. 

Ordered,  That the further consideration  of the  The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Cinematograph  cinemato-
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Committee,  be  now  Bill,  with  Amendments  ;  to  which  the  Lords   S 1 ^ B i U  ­
adjourned.—(Mr.  Herbert  Samuel.) 

desire  the  concurrence  of  this  House. 

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26th— 27 th  October. 

505 

The Lords have agreed to the  House Letting 
and Rating (Scotland) Bill (now Small Dwelling-
Houses in Burghs Letting and Rating ( Scotland) 
Bill),  with  Amendments;  to  which  the  Lords 
desire the concurrence  of this House. 

The Lords  have agreed  to  the  Development 
and  Road  Improvement  Funds  Bill,  with 
Amendments;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of this House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to the  Amendments 
made  by this  House  to  the  Electric  Lighting 
Acts  (Amendment)  Bill  [.Lords],  with  Amend­
ments ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the concur­
rence  of this House. 

Ordered, That  the  Amendments made by the 
Lords to the Small  Dwelling-Houses  in Burghs 
Letting  and  Rating  (Scotland)  Bill  (changed 
from  House Letting and Rating (Scotland)  Bill) 
be  taken  into  consideration  this  day;  and  be 
printed. 

Ordered,  That  the Amendment  made  by the wild  Animals 

Lords  to  the  Wild  Animals 
in  Captivity  Captivity 
Protection  (Scotland)  Bill  be  taken  into  con- (Scotland) 
sideration to-morrow ;  and  be printed. 

Bill. 

Ordered, That  the Amendments  made by the cinemato-
Lords  to  the  Cinematograph  Bill  be  taken grapb Bill, 
into  consideration  upon  Friday next;  and  be  Bill 347. 
printed. 

Bill 316. 

Ordered, That the Amendments  made  by the Irish  Land 

Lords  to  the  Irish  Land  Bill  be  taken  into Bill, 
consideration  upon  Monday  next;  and  be  Bill 348. 
printed. 

The  House, according  to Order, proceeded  to Finance Bill, 

take into further consideration the Finance  Bill, 
as amended in the Committee. 

Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to the  Bill,  in  p. 37,  1. 23, by leaving  out  from 
the  word  "  appeal"  to  the  word  "  with,"  in 
1.  26,  and  inserting  the  words  " to  the  High 
Court  as  under  the  Finance Act,  1894"—(Mr. 
Gretton),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 
words  proposed  to  be left out  stand  part of  the 
Bill:—The  said proposed Amendment was, with 
leave of the House, withdrawn. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

House  Letting 
and  Eating 
(Scotland) 
Bill  (now 
Small 
Dwelling-
Houses in 
Burghs 
Letting  and 
Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill.) 

Development 

and  Road  

Improvement 

Funds  Bill.  


Electric 
Lighting  Acts 
(Amendment) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Small 
Dwelling-
Houses in 
Burghs 
Letting  and 
Rating 
(Scotland) 
Bill  (changed 
from.  House 
Letting  and 
Rating 
(Scotland) 
Bill.) 

Bill 344. 

Development 
and  Road 
Improvement 
Funds  Bill. 

Bill 345. 

Ordered, That the Amendments  made  by the 
Lords  to tlie  Development  and  Road  Improve­
ment  Funds  Bill  be  taken  into  consideration 
upon Monday next;  and be printed. 

Adjournment.

Resolved, That  this House  do now adjourn.— 

(Mr. Joseph  Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­
tinued  to  sit  till  twenty-three  minutes 
after Twelve  of  the clock  on Wednesday 
morning, adjourned till this day. 

[No.  166] 

Wednesday, 27th  October  1909. 
The  House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three of the clock. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Supple-­
ment  to 
Fifth  Report. 

Saint  Lucia. 

Fee-charging 
Secondary 
Schools  (Free 
Places.) 

P R A Y E R S. 

APUBLIC  Petition was presented, and read ; 

and ordered  to lie upon the Table. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,. pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Rules  and Regulations  for  the  government  of 
the Prisons  in Saint Lucia. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Ordered, That there be laid before this House 
a  Return  showing,  in  reference  to  Article  20 
of  the  Regulations  for  Secondary  Schools,  the 
number  and names  of  the  Fee-charging  Secon­
dary  Schools  receiving  the  higher  grant,  in 
which  the  ordinary  percentage  (25  per  cent.) 
of  Free  Places  has  been  reduced  or varied on 
grounds  deemed  by  tbe Boazd  of Education  to 
be sufficient:— 

School. 

Descrip-
tion. 

Number 
of  Pupils. 

Percentage  Grounds for 

of  Free 
Places 
approved. 

variation 
or 
reduction. 

-(Mr. Shackleton.) 

VOL.  164.  


Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  37,  1.  36,  by  leaving  out 
subsection  (3)  of  Clause  44.—  (Mr.  James 
Hope.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 
words  proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  word 
"  compensation,"  in  1.  40,  stand  part  of  the 
Bill:—The  said proposed Amendment was, with 
leave of the House, withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  Avere  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to the Bill,  in  p. 38,  1. 9,  by inserting, after the 
word  "  less,"  the  words  "  in  the  case  of  a 
restaurant  than  two-fifths,  and  in  the  case  of 
any other premises."—(Mr.  Herbert Samuel.) 

And the Question being proposed, That those 

words  be there inserted  in the Bill; 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be  made  to 
the said proposed Amendment, in 1.2, by leaving 
out  the  words  "  two-fifths,"  and  inserting  the 
words "three-fifths "—(Mr. Arkwright),—instead 
thereof. 

And  the Question  being put, That  the words 

"  two-fifths "  stand part of the proposed Amend­
ment ; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

ICaptain  Norton:  


Tellers for thefMr.  Arkwright, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Carlile-. 

1161. 

V
j  61. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the Question  being put,  That  the words 
"  in the case of a restaurant than two-fifths, and 
in  the  case  of  any other  premises "  be inserted 
after the word "less,"  in p.  38,1.  9,  of  the Bill ; 
—It  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 38,1.  10, by  leaving  out  the 
words  "  one-third,"  and  inserting  the  words 
"  one-half"—(Mr.  Goulding),—instead thereof. 
And  the Question  being put,  That  the words 

"  one-third "  stand part  of the  Bill; 

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[No. 166. 

The  House divided. 
The  Yeas to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the ( Mr. Goulding, 

Noes, . 

\  Mr.  Fell: 

175. 

82. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  38,  1. 13,  by  leaving  out  the 
word  "bearing,"  and  inserting  the  words  "of 
one-half  of "—(Mr.  Younger),—instead thereof. 

And the  Question  being  put, That  the word 

"  bearing "  stand part  of the Bill; 

The House divided. 
The  Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes to the Left, 
Tellers for the j Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the 
Noes, 

Mr,  George Denison 

Faber, 

Mr.  Samuel Roberts :  J 

209. 

77. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 

to  the  Bill,  in p. 38,1.  15,  by inserting  at  the 
end thereof the words u and, in case the receipts 
from the sale  of intoxicating liquor are less than 
one-eighth  of  the total  receipts  from  the  busi­
ness  of  all  descriptions  carried  on  on  the 
premises, then the duty payable under  this  Act 
shall  be assessed upon such  premises as if  they 
were a registered club."—(Mr.  Fell.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted in the Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Fell, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Samuel  Roberts 

Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Noes, 

\ Captain Norton : 

72. 

213. 

So it passed  in the Negative. 
Then another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 

to  the  Bill,  in p. 38,  1. 30,  by leaving  out sub­
section (4)  of Clause 45.—(Mr.  Staveley-Hill.) 

And  the Question being  put, That  the words 

proposed to  be left out stand part of the Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the ( Mr. Staveley-Hill, 

213. 

74. 

Noes, 

\  Mr.  Samuel Roberts : 
So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 

to  the  Bill,  in p. 39,1.  28,  by  inserting  at  the 
end  thereof  the  words  "  Such  deductions  from 
rent  as are  set  out  in  the  Second  Schedule  to 
the  Licensing  Act,  1904, may, notwithstanding 
any  agreement  to  the  contrary,  be  made  by 
any  licence-holder  who  pays  the  licence  duty 
in  respect  of  any  increase  of  such  duty  occa­
sioned  by this Act,  and also by any person from 
whose  rent  a  deduction  is  made  in  respect  of 

the  payment  of  any  such  increase."  — (Mr. 
Ber ridge.) 

And the Question being put, That  those words 
be there inserted in the Bill:—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  39,  1.  31,  by  inserting,  after 
the  word  "paid,"  the  words  "or  the  value  of 
any  licence  or  licences  which has or  have been 
surrendered."—(Mr.  Gretton.) 

And  the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted  in the  Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right ; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the I Mr.  Gretton, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Cave:  


Tellers for the (Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

I Captain  Norton: 

|  67. 

1168. 

So it passed in the Negative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 

to  the  Bill,  in  p. 40,1.  16,  by  leaving  out sub­
section (1)  of Clause 48.—(Mr.  Hunt.) 

And the Question being put, That  the  words 

proposed to  be left out stand part  of the Bill  :— 
It  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 41,  1. 35,  by  inserting  at  the 
end thereof  the words— 

" ( 3)  "Where  the  duty payable  by any person 
under  this  Part  of  this  Act  on  any  licence 
exceeds  the  sum  of  sixty  pounds  the  licence 
may,  at  the  option  of  the  licence-holder,  be 
granted  upon  payment  of  one-half  only  of  the 
duty  so payable, and  in that  case the other half 
of  the  duty shall  be  paid  immediately after the 
expiration of six months from the commencement 
of  the year  for  which  the licence  was granted; 
or,  in case  the  licence  was  granted  after the 
month  of  September,  on the first day of  March 
next  after  the  commencement  of  the  year  for 
which  the  licence  was  granted;  and  in  default 
of  payment  of  the  second  half  of  the  duty  the 
licence shall cease to  be in force. 

This  provision  shall  apply  to  two  or  more 
licences granted  in respect  of one set of premise's 
as it applies to a single licence."—(Mr.  Solicitor 
General.) 

And the Question being proposed, That those 

words be there inserted  in the  Bill; 

An  Amendment was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the said proposed Amendment,  in 1. 2, by leaving 
out  the  words  "  sum  of  sixty  pounds,"  and 
inserting  the  words  "  duty  which  would  have 
been payable in respect of the same  or the corre­
sponding licence before the passing  of  this Act  " 
—(Mr.  Gretton),—instead  thereof. 

And the Question being put,  That  the  words 

proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the pro­
posed Amendment; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

1 Mr.  Fuller: 

Tellers for the ( Mr.  Gretton, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Arkwright: 

151. 

)
f 

So it  was resolved in the Affirmative. 
And the Question being put, That the words— 

No. 175.]  9  E D W.   Y I I. 

2 4th  November. 

507 

" ( 3)  Where  the duty payable  by any person 
Under  this  Part  of  this  Act  on  any  licence 
exceeds  the  sum  of  sixty  pounds  the  licence 
may,  at  the  option  of  the  licence-holder,  be 
granted  upon  payment  of  one-half  only  of  the 
duty  so payable, and in that  case  the  other half 
of the duty shall be paid  immediately  after the 
expiration of six months from the commencement 
of  the  year for  which the licence  was granted; 
or,  in  case  the  licence  was  granted  after the 
month  of  September,  on the first day  of  March 
next  after  the  commencement  of  the  year for 
which the licence was granted;  and in default of 
payment  of  the  second  half  of  the  duty  the 
licence shall cease to be  in force. 

This  provision  shall  apply  to  two  or more 
licences granted in respect of one set of premises 
as  it  applies  to  a  single licence "  be inserted in 
p.  41,  at  the  end  of  1. 35 :—It  was resolved in 
the Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to the Bill, in  p. 43,1.30,  by inserting  at the end 
thereof  the  words  "except  any  such  offices, 
courts, yards,  or  gardens  as  are  proved  to  the 
satisfaction of the Commissioners  to  be used for 
any trade  or business distinct from any trade  or 
business  carried  on  upon  the  premises  by  the 
licence-holder."—(Mr.  Solicitor General.) 

And the Question being proposed, That those 

words be there inserted  in the Bill; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  in  1.  1,  by 
inserting,  after  the  word  "courts,"  the  word 
"  stables."—(Mr.  George Denison Faber.) 

And  the  Question  being  put, That the word 
"  stables "  be  there  inserted  in  the  proposed 
Amendment:—It  passed in the Negative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  in  1.  4,  by 
adding  at the end thereof  the  words  "  by virtue 
of his licence."—(Mr.  Gretton.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there added to the  proposed  Amendment:— 
It passed in the Negative. 

And  the Question being put, That  the  words 

"  except  any  such  offices,  courts,  yards,  or 
ardens  as  are proved  to the satisfaction  of  the 

Jommissioners  to  be  used  for  any  trade  or 
business  distinct  from  any  trade  or  business 
carried  on  upon  the  premises  by  the  licence-
holder "  be inserted in p. 43,  at the end of  1. 30: 
—It  was resolved  in the Affirmative, 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  44,  1.  29,  by  leaving  out 
the  word  "  whether,"  and  inserting  the  word 
"where"—(Mr.  Cave),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That the word 
"whether"  stand  part  of  the  Bill:—It  was 
resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  45,  1. 7,  by leaving  out  the 
words "for  the purpose of or."—(Mr.  Cave.) 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  the 
words proposed  to be left out  stand  part  of  the 
Bill  ;—The  said proposed Amendment was, with 
leave  of the House, withdrawn. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 

to the  Bill,  in  p.  46,  1.  I,  by  leaving  out sub­
section  (2)  of  Clause  58.—(Sir  Henry  Craik.) 

VOL.  164. 

f

And  the Question being put,  That  the words 

proposed  to be left out, to the word "  or,"  in  1. 6, 
stand part  of the Bill; 
The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Fuller, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Gulland: 

1 
j 
) 
(Mr.  Mitchell-Thomson:  f 

165. 

b" 

Tellers for the ("Sir Henry  Craik, 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the Bill,  in  p. 46,  1. 16,  by inserting, after the 
word  "  interest,"  the  words  "  and  property  of 
which  the  deceased  never  was  competent  to 
dispose, and which on his death passes to persons 
other  than  the  husband  or  wife  or  a  lineal 
ancestor  or descendant of  the  deceased."—(Mr. 
Secretary Haldane.) 

And the Question being proposed,  That those 

words  be there inserted  in the Bill : 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be made to 
the  said  proposed Amendment,  by  leaving  out 
from  the  word  "  dispose"  to  the  end  of  the 
proposed Amendment.—-(Mr.  Cave.) 

And  the Question  being put, That the words 

proposed  to  be left  out  stand  part  of  the  pro­
posed  Amendment:—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

And the Question being  put, That  the words 
"  and property  of which the deceased  never was 
competent  to  dispose, and  which  on  his  death 
passes  to persons other than the husband  or wife 
or a lineal ancestor or descendant of the deceased " 
be  inserted  after  the word " interest,"  in  p. 46, 
1.  16,  of  the  Bill:—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 47,  1,  8,  by  leaving  out  the 
words  "  first  succession  under  the  disposition 
arises,"  and  inserting  the  words  "disposition 
is  made "  — ( Mr.  Mitchell-Thomson), — instead 
thereof. 

And the Question  being put, That  the words 

proposed to  be left out stand part  of the Bill;— 
It was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to the  Bill, in p. 47,1.  10, by  leaving  out 
Clause 59.—{Mr. Evelyn  Cecil.) 

And  the Question  being put, That  the words 
proposed to be left out, to the end of  1. 29, stand 
part  of the  Bill; 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the j  Mr.  Evelyn  Cecil, 

169. 

67. 

Noes, 

( Viscount Helmsley : 
So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 47,  1. 30, by  leaving  out  the 
word "  eight," and  inserting  the word "  nine  • 
(Mr.  Cave),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the word 
"  eight "  stand part  of the Bill :—It was resolved 
in the Affirmative. 

Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 47,  1.  30,  by  leaving  out  the 
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[No. 166. 

words"  or made  or effected for public or charitable  Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the Bill,  in p. 48,1.  8,  by leaving out the word 
purposes."—(Sir  Henry Kimber.*) 	
"  market."—(Mr.  Walter Guinness.) 

And  the Question  being put, That  the words 

proposed  to  be left out stand part  of the Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 

The  Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the fMr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

ICaptain Norton: 

Tellers for the f Sir Henry  Kimber, 

Noes, 

IMr.  Hills: 

1 160 


J' 
1  gg

. J 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the Bill,  in p. 47,  1. 34, by inserting, after the 
word "  marriage," the words "  or consanguinity." 
—(Sir  Henry  Kimber.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 
be there inserted  in  the  Bill:—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

Then  another Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p. 47,  1. 37,  by  leaving  out  the 
word  "and,"  and  inserting  the  word  " o r  " — 
(Sir Henry  Kimber),—instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being put,  That  the  word 
"  and "  stand part  of  the Bill :—It  was resolved 
in the Affirmative. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the Bill,  in p. 47,  1. 40, by inserting, after the 
words last inserted, the  words "  where  the per­
son making  or effecting  and  the  person  taking 
a  benefit  under  any  such  gift  inter  vivos, 
surrender,  assurance,  divesting,  or  disposition 
shall both die within such period  of  three years, 
any  property which is  the. subject,  of  such  gift, 
surrender,  assurance,  divesting,  or  disposition, 
and which shall  have been charged  with  estate 
duty  on thefirst of such  deaths, shall  not  again 
be chargeable with  estate duty  on  the  death of 
the  survivor  of  such  persons,  or  be  liable  to 
aggregation on his death."—(Sir Henry  Kimber.) 

And the Question  being  put,  That  the  Word 

"  market"  stand part of the Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for thefMr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

1 
f 
Tellers for the fMr.  Waller  Guinness,.  ( 
j* 
(Mr.  Hills: 

1 Captain Norton: 

Noes, 

j..

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Then  another Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made  

to the Bill,  in p. 48,  1. 14, by inserting, after the  

word "  Act,"  the words  "  whether  as  originally  

enacted  or  as  applied  by a!ny other  enactment."  

—(Mr.  Chancellor  of the Exchequer.) 


And the Question being  proposed, That those  


words be there inserted in the Bill; 


An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be made to 

the  said  proposed  Amendment,  by leaving  out  

the  word  "  applied,"  and  inserting  the  word  

"  amended "—(Mr.  Cave),—instead  thereof.  


And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the word 

"  applied "  stand  part  of  the  proposed  Amend­
ment ; 

The House divided. 

The Yeas  to the Right.; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the fMr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 


Tellers for the/ Mr.  Cave,  

(Mr.  Hills:  


Noes, 

|  102. 
J  30. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

And  the  Question being put, That  the words  


"  whether  as originally enacted  or  as applied  by 
anv other enactment "  be inserted after the word 
"  Act,"  in  p.  48,  1,  14,  of  the  Bill:—It  was 
resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

And the Question being proposed, That those 
words be there inserted  in  the Bill:—The said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  48,  1.  3,  by  leaving  out  the 
words "  cease to have effect," and  inserting  the 
words "  have effect  as  if  the  words ' be  ascer­
tained  by  reference  to'  were  inserted  therein 
in the place  of  the  words £ not  exceed  twenty-
five  times' "—(Mr.  Hills),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question being  proposed, That  the 
words proposed  to  be left out stand part  of  the 
Bill: 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after Twelve  of the clock on Thursday morning ; 

Thursday, 28<A  October 1909: 

And the Question being put; 
The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
"The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
"(Captain  Norton:  


Yeas, 

Tellers for thefMr.  Hills,  


Noes, 

(Mr.  Hicks Beach : 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

Ordered, That the further consideration  of the 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Committee,  be  now 
adjourned.—(Mr. Chancellor  of the Exchequer.) 
Ordered, That the Bill,  as amended,  be  taken 

into further consideration this days 

The  House, according to Order, resolved itself Police 
into  a  Committee  on  the  Police  (Liverpool (Liverpool 
Inquiry)  Bill. 

Inquiry) Bill. 

(In the Committee.) 

Clauses No.  1 and No.  2 agreed to. 
Bill  to  be reported. 

Mr, Deputy  Speaker resumed the Chair;  and 
the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported, 
That the Committee had  gone  through  the Bill,' 
and  directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  now read the third 
time :—The  Bill was accordingly read the  third 
time and passed. 

j  140. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence, 

|  46.  ^  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Education 

Second Reading  of  the Education (Administra- (Adminis-
Sions) 
tive Provisions) Bill [Lords]  ; 

Bill  [Lords.] 

^ O  1 6 6]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

27th—28th October. 	

5 09 


Small 
Dwelling-
Houses in 
Burghs 
Letting  and 
Bating 
•(Scotland) 
Bill (changed
from  House 
Letting and 
Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill.) 
Housing, 
Town 
Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

Orderedj That the Bill  be read a  second  time 

this day. 

The  Order of  the day being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by 
the  Lords  to  the  Small  Dwelling-Houses  in 
Burghs  Letting  and  Rating  (Scotlaud)  Bill 
{changed from  House Letting  and Rating (Scot­
land) Bill); 

Ordered, That the said Amendments  be taken 

into consideration this day. 

Act,  1884,  dated  25th  October  1909, declaring 
that  George  Thomas,  Artificer,  Royal  Small 
Arms  Factory,  War  Office,  was  appointed 
without  a  Civil  Service  Certificate  through 
inadvertence  on  the  part  of  the  head  of  his 
Department. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

The  Municipal  Elections  Bill  [Lords]  was  Municipal 
read  the  first  time,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a  Sections  Bill 
second  time  to-morrow  ;  and  to  be  printed. 

[Lords.]

Bill  349. 

The  Order  of the day being  read,  for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by 
the Lords  to  the Housing1, Town Planning, &c. 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That the said Amendments  be taken 

into consideration this day. 

Diseases of 
Animals  Bill 
[Lords.] 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Diseases  of  Animals 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 

this day. 

County 
Councils 

Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be  read a second  time 

this day. 

Greenwich 
Hospital. 

Resolved, That the Statement of  the estimated 
Income and Expenditure of Greenwich Hospital 
and of Travers' Foundation for the year 1909-10 
be approved.—(Mr.  Lambert.) 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to  Finance Bill, 

take into further consideration  the Finance Bill, 
as amended  in the Committee. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to the  Bill,  in p. 50,  1. 17,  by leaving  out 
Clause 66.—(Sir  Henry Craik.') 

And the Question  being  put, That subsection 
(1)  of  Clause  66 stand part of the Bill:—It  was  

resolved in the Affirmative. 


Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 50,1.  28,  by  leaving  out  the 
word "  previous."—(Mr.  Walter Guinness.) 

And  the Question  being  put, That  the word 

"	  previous "  stand part of the Bill; 


The  House  divided.  

The  Yeas  to the Right; 

The Noes to the Left. 

Tellers for thej Mr. Joseph Pease, 

| Captain Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the. (Mr.  Walter Guinness, 

Noes, 

I Mr. Evelyn  Cecil: 

202. 

66. 

So  it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 
Then  other  Amendments were  made  to  the 

Whereupon Mr. Deputy Speaker adjourned 
the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant  to  the  Order of the House  of  the 
20th  day  of  August  last,  it  being  then 
five minutes  before One  of  the  clock on 
Thursday morning, till this day. 

[No.  167.] 
Thursday,  28th  October  1909. 

The  House  met at  a quarter  of  an  hour 
before Three  of  the  clock. 

P E  A YE  E   S. 

RO B E R  T  Gordon's  Technical  College  and 

Aberdeen  Endowments  Trust  Order  Con­

firmation  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a 
second  time,  and  ordered  to  be  taken  into 
consideration  upon  Monday  next. 

A  Public  Petition  was  presented,  and  read  ; 

and ordered  to  lie  upon  the  Table. 

Mr. Birrell  presented, pursuant  to  the  direc­
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Order  made  by the  Local  Government  Board 
for  Ireland  under  the  Polling  Districts  and 
Registration  of  Voters  (Ireland)  Act,  1908, 
entitled the Polling Districts and Polling Places 
Order, 1909. 

Copy  of  Statute  for  University  College, 
Dublin, under the Irish Universities Act,  1908. 

Ordered,  That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table;  and  that the Paper relative to the Irish 
Universities Act,  1908,  be printed. 

Robert 
Gordon's 
Technical 
College  and 
Aberdeen 
Endowments 
Trust  Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 
Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Supple­
ment  to 
Fifth  Report. 
Local 
Government 
Board 
(Ireland.) 

Irish 
Universities 
Act,  1908. 

No.  300. 

Superannua­
tion  Act, 1884, 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Treasury  Minute  under  the  Superannuation 

V  O L.  164. 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to  the Bill,  in  p. 51,  1. 3,  by inserting, after  the 
word  "  and,"  the  words  "  the  amount  of  all 
premiums  and other  outgoings  paid  under  any 
legal obligation."—(Mr.  Bertram.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted in the Bill; 

The  House  divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Bertram, 

"i 

Yeas, 

\Sir Frederick  Banbury :  J  


Tellers for the!Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

I Captain Norton : 

\  199  

J 

So it passed in the Negative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed  to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p. 52,1.  15,  by  inserting  at  the 
end  thereof  the  words  "  For  the  purposes  of 
this section the term ' maintenance' shall include 
the erection  of  new farmhouses, farm  buildings, 
cottages,  fences,  and  other  works  which  are 
necessary to maintain the existing rent."—(Lord 
Willoughby  de Eresby.) 

And the Question being  proposed,  That those 
words  be there  inserted  in  the Bill:—The said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Then  another Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  52,1. 41,  by leaving  out  the 
words  "repayment  shall  thereupon  be  made," 
and  inserting  the  words  "  the  duty  shall  be 
reduced  or  repayment  made  (as  the  case  may 
require) "—(Mr.  Fell),—instead  thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 
words  proposed  to  be left out stand part  of  the 
3  x  3 

510 	

[No. 175. 
Bill :—The  said proposed Amendment was, with  The  House, according  to Order, proceeded  to wild Animals 
leave  of the House, withdrawn. 

take  into  consideration  the  Amendment  made in Captivity 

24:th-~25th  November. 

1909. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the  by the  Lords  to the  WUd  Animals  in Captivity 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  54,  1. 25,  by leaving out 
subsection  (3)  of  Clause  72.—(Mr.  Walter 
Guinness.) 

And  the Question  being  proposed,  That  the  


words proposed to be left out,  to  the word "  or," 
in  1.  34,  stand  part  of  the  Bill;—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the  

House, withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 


Protection  (Scotland)  Bill;  and  the  same was Bill, 
twice read, and agreed to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendment  made  by  their 
Lordships. 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Diseases of 


Second  Reading  of  the  Diseases  of  Animals  Animals  

Bill  [Lords]  ;	 

Bill  [Lord*.J

And  a  Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question  

being  put,  That  the  Bill  be now  read  a  second  

time  ; 

Another A mendment was proposed  to be made  The  Yeas  to  the  Right  ; 

The House divided. 


to  the  Bill,  in  p.  60,1.  19,  by  leaving  out  the 
words  "three  shillings  and  nine  pence,"  and 
inserting  the  words  "  one  shilling "  •— (Mr. 	
Younger),—instead  thereof. 

And  the Question  being put, That the words 

proposed to be left out stand part of the Bill; 

The  House  divided.  	
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the j'Viscount Valentia, 
t Mr.  Henry  Forster : 

Noes, 

J 

197. 

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the  f Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

|  Mr.  Fuller : 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Mooney,

Noes, 

|  Mr.  Gwynn : 

83. 

7. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
The Bill was accordingly read a second time. 
Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a  

Committee  of  the whole  House  for  to-morrow.  

—(Sir  Edward Strachey.) 


The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Expiring Laws 

59.  Committee  on  the  Expiring  Laws Continuance Continuance 

Bill; 

... 
Resolved, That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, 

• 

. 

B111, 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Another Amendment was proposed to be made  resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

to  the  Bill,  in  p. 61,  1. 21,  by leaving  out  sub-
section (1)  of  Clause 84.—(Mr.  MlArihur.) 

And the Question  being put, That  the words 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assurance 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assurance  Companies Companies 
Bill [Lords];	 

11111  [Lord.,.-]

proposed  to  be  left  out,  to  the  end  of  1. 21,  '  Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 
stand part of the Bill; 
The House divided. 

The Yeas  to the  Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Places of 

Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship Worship  

(Enfranchisement) (No. 2)  Bill;	 

upon Monday next.  


[  172. 

Ordered,  That the  Bill  be  read  a second time  Bill, 

^ e n t K  ^ 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the ( Mr.  M'Arthur, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Gwynn : 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 

69. 

upon Monday next. 

The  Order  of the day being  read, for  taking Bishopric  of 
into  consideration  the  Bishopric  of  Sheffield  Bill,  Sheffield Bill, 
as amended in the Standing Committee; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con-

made  to  the  Bill,  in  p. 61,  1. 29,  by inserting,  sideration upon  Monday next. 
after  the  word  "  Ireland,"  the  word "  half."— 
(Mr.  Hunt.) 

"  half "  be there inserted in the Bill; 	

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for  taking Small 
And  the  Question  being  put,  That the word into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by Dwelling­
-•'  Houses in 
-
- • 
- -
the  Lords  to  the  Small  Dwelling-Houses  in Burghs 
Burghs  Letting  and  Rating  (Scotland)  Bill Letting and 
{changed from  House  Letting and  Rating  (Scot- ®atin.S 
land) Bill); 

— 

--  

---

~ 

m\\changed
.  Ordered, That the said Amendments  be taken  ^ y ®  0  ^ 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Hunt, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Gwynn: 

Tellers for the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain Norton : 

So it passed in the Negative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

gg 

) 
j 
I  ig8  

j 

into consideration upon Monday next. 

Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill.) 

The Order  of  the  day being read, for taking Housing, 


into consideration the Amendments made by the Town  

Lords to the Housing, Town Planning, &c. Bill;  ^,nning' 

Ordered, That the said Amendments  be taken 

into consideration upon Monday next. 

Ordered,  That the further consideration  of the 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Committee,  be  now 
adjourned.—(Mr. Chancellor  of the Exchequer.)  Second Reading  of  the  County  Councils Mort- Councils 

Ordered,  That the Bill,  as amended,  be  taken 

into further consideration to-morrow. 

gages Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second time 

to-morrow. 

Education 
(Adminis­
trative 
Provisions) 
Bill  [Lords ]

The  Education  (Administrative  Provisions) 
Bill  [Lords]  was,  according  to  Order,  read a 
second time. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee of the whole House for to-morrow.— 
(Mr. Joseph Pease.) 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House without Question  put, pursuant  to 
the  Order  of  the  House  of the 20th day 
of  August last, it being thenfive minutes 
before  Twelve  of  the  clock,  till  to­
morrow. 

No. 168.]  9  EDW.  VII. 

29th October, 


Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Supple­
ment  to 
Fifth  Report. 

Local 
'Government 
Board. 

Land Law 
(Ireland)  Act, 
1887 (Eviction 
Notices.) 

Finance  Bill. 

[No.  168.] 
Friday,  29th  October  1909. 

The House met at Twelve  of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

SEVERAL  Public Petitions were presented, 

and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Burns  presented,  by His  Majesty's Com-
mand,—Copy  of  Thirty-eighth  Annual  Report 
of  the  Local  Government  Board,  for 1908-9. 
Supplement containing the Report of the Medical 
Officer for 1908-9. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—-Copy  of Return under Section 7 of 
the  Land  Law  (Ireland)  Act,  1887,  of  the 
number  of  Eviction  Notices filed in the  High 
Court  of  Justice and County Courts  in  Ireland 
during the quarter ended  on the 30th September 
1909. 

Ordered, That the said Paper do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

The  House,  according  to Order, proceeded to 
take into further consideration the Finance Bill, 
as amended in the Committee. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to the Bill,  in p. 62,  1. 16,  by leaving  out 
Clause 85.—(Mr. Pearson.) 

And the Question being  put, That  the words 

proposed  to  be  left-  out,  to  the  end  of  1.  26, 
stand part  of  the Bill:  —It  was resolved  in the 
Affirmative. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another Amendment was proposed to  be made 
to  the  Bill,  in p. 63,1.  38, by  inserting  at  the 
end  thereof  the words "  Provided  that a person 
using motor spirit before thefirst day of January 
nineteen  hundred  and  ten, for  the  purpose  of 
supplying  motive power  to a  motor  cab, motor 
omnibus,  or  other  vehicle,  being  a  hackney 
carriage within  the  meaning  of  section  four of 
the  Customs  and  Revenue  Act,  1889, while  it 
is standing  or  plying  for  hire shall  be entitled, 
in accordance with the provisions  of this section, 
to  an  allowance  or  repayment  of  the  whole 
amount  of  any  duty  paid  under  this  Act  in 
respect of  the spirit  so used."—(Mr.  Chancellor 
of  the Exchequer.) 

And the Question being proposed, That those 
words  be there  inserted  in the  Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in p. 72,  1. 6,  by leaving  out 
" £ 1  0  10s.," and inserting " £  5  5s."—(Mr.  Gret­
ton),—instead  thereof. 

And the Question being  put, That  £10  10s." 

stand part  of the  Bill; 
The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Whitley -. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Gretton, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Remnant: 

152. 

59. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Then  another  Amendment  was  made  to  the 

BiU. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  73,  1. 6,  column 2, by 
leaving  out  the  words  "  A  duty equal  to  half 
the annual value  of  the licensed premises,"  and 
inserting the words "  Duty specified in Scale 3  " 
—(Mr.  James Hope),—instead  thereof. 

And the Question being put,  That  the words 

proposed  to be left out stand part of the  Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Whitley : 


Tellers for the J  Mr,  James Hope, 


Noes, 

1 Mr.  Fell-. 

}  164. 

58. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the Bill,- in p. 73, column  2,  by leaving 
out Is. 8 and 9.—(Mr.  Gretton.) 

And  the  Question being  put, That the words 

proposed to be left out stand part  of the  Bill; 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right ; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Whitley : 

Tellers for the ( f *' 

f j 
iNoes, 

1 Mr.  Ueorge  Denison 
j  Faber-. 

.

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

168. 

55. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to the Bill,  in p. 73,  column 2,  by leaving 
out  Is.  10  to  14,  inclusive,  and  inserting  the 
words  "  Duty  specified  in  Scale  4 "  —  (Mr. 
George  Gibbs),—instead thereof. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

And the Question  being put, That  the words 

Bill. 

proposed to be left out stand part of the Bill; 

Another Amendment was proposed to be made 
to  the  Bill,  in  p.  70,  1.  7,  by  leaving  out the 
words "  Duty specified in  Scale 1," and inserting 
"  £10 "—(Mr.   Younger),—instead thereof, 

And  the  Question  being  put, That  the words 

proposed to be left out stand part  of  the Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Whitley : 


Tellers for the j Mr.  George Gibbs, 


The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the) Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

\ Captain Norton : 

Tellers for t h e j  £  aZ^Denison 

Noes' 

1  Faber: 
So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 


V O L.  164  


j  ^ ^ 

60. 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Rupert  Guinness: 
So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill, in p. 73,  1. 34,  by inserting  at 
the end thereof  the words— 
10,000 and less than 
30,000 

£17  10s.  £11  10s." 

-
-(Mr.  George Gibbs.) 


3  r  4  


170. 

57. 

29th October. 

1909. 

[No: 168. 

A nd  the  Question  being  put,  That those  words 
be  there  inserted  in  the  B i l l : — It  passed   in  the 
Negative. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the Bill,  in p. 74,  1.  12,  by inserting  at 
the end thereof  the words "  and,  in  the  case of 
the  borough  of  Wenlock,  the sanitary divisions 
shall  be  the  area  upon  which  the  population 
shall  be  calculated,  upon  which  the  minimum 
duty shall  be based instead of  the  borough  as a 
whole."—(Mr.  Lupton.) 

A nd  the  Question  being  proposed,  That  those 
words  be  there  inserted  in  the  B i l l : — T he  said 
leave  of  the 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with 
House,  withdrawn. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the Bill,  in p. 76, by leaving out 1. 23. 
—(Mr.  Younger.) 

And  the  Question  being  put,  That  the  words 
"  but  not  in  any  larger  quantities  "  stand  part  of 
the  Bill  ; 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas   to  the  R i g h t; 

The  Noes   to  the  L e f t. 

Tellers for the ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

1 Mr.  Whitley : 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  81,  1.  21,  by  leaving 
out  "3s.  8 Id.,"  and  inserting «3s.  6|rf,"—(Mr. 
M'Arthur),—instead  thereof. 

And the Question being put, That  "3s.  8 id." 
stand part of the Bill :—It  was  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to the  Bill,  in p. 81,  1. 35,  by inserting  at 
the end thereof the words "  Except  in  the case 
of  tobacco  grown  in  any  part  of  the  British 
Empire, which  shall  pay the same  duty only as 
at present."—(Mr.  Fell.) 

And the Question being put, That those word* 

be there inserted  in the Bill; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Hunt, 
( Mr.  Fell: 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the ( Captain  Norton, 

Noes, 

1 Mr.  Whitley; 
So it passed in the Negative. 

41. 

129. 

166. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made to the Bill,  in  p. 82,  1. 5,  by  leaving out 
"  3s. 6d.," and inserting "  3s. 4c?."—(Mr. Gwynn),
—instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That 
"3s.  6d."  stand  part  of  the  Bill  :—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Tellers for the ( M l  "  Younger, 
I 
'  Faber  : 

Noes 
' 

George Denison  V  53. 

)

] 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p, 77,  1. 4,  by leaving out 
the words "  one-third,"  and  inserting the words 
''one-fourth "—(Mr.  Gretton),—instead thereof. 
And  the  Question being put, That the words 

Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third  time  Bill 350. 

upon Tuesday next;  and be printed. 

"  one-third "  stand part  of the  Bill; 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas   to  the  R i g h t; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the j  Captain  Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Whitley: 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Gretton, 

) 
) 
) 
( Colonel Hall  Walker : j 

Noes, 

164. 

50. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Education 

Committee  on  the  Education  (Administrative 
Provisions) Bill  [Lords]  ; 

ProvMons) 

Resolved,  That  this House will, upon Monday Bin  tLords^ 

next, resolve itself  into the said Committee. 

The Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking Cinemato­
into consideration the Amendments made by the 8raPh Bin-
Lords to the Cinematograph  Bill; 

Ordered,  That the said Amendments  be taken 

into consideration upon Monday next. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  77,  1.  26,  by  leaving 
out  the  word  "  only,"  and  inserting  the  word 
"mainly"—(Mr.  Gretton),—instead  thereof. 

The House, according to Order, resolved itself  Diseases of 
into  a  Committee  on  the  Diseases  of  Animals  Animals Bill 
Bill  [Lords]. 

; 

And  the  Question  being  proposed,  That the 
word "only"  stand part  of  the Bill:—The  said 
proposed  Amendment  was,  with  leave  of  the 
House, withdrawn. 

Then  other  Amendments  were  made  to  the 

Bill. 

Another  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be 
made  to  the Bill,  in p. 81,1.  20,  by leaving  out 
"  3s. 8d.,"  and  inserting "  3s. Qd."—(Mr.  Hunt),
—instead thereof. 

And  the  Question  being put, That "  3s. 8tf." 

stand part of the Bill; 
The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas   to  the  Right  ; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the ( Captain Norton, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Whitley: 

Tellers for the j  Mr.  Hunt, 

Noes, 

( Mr. M'Arthur  : 

(In  the Committee.) 

Clauses No.  1 and No. 2 agreed to. 

Bill  to be reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy  Chairman  reported,  That  the  Committee 
had  gone  through  the  Bill,  and  directed  him   to 
report  the  same,  without  Amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  nOw read  the  third 
time : — T he  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and  passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  without  Amendment. 

)
j 
)
j  _ 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring Laws 

Committee  on  the  Expiring  Laws  Continuance  Continuance 
B i l l;  

B l  ' 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

next,  resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 





NO. 168.]  9  EDW.  YII. 
County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second  Reading  of  the  County  Councils  Mort­
gages  B i l l; 

29th 

October.—November. 

5 13 


Ordered,  That  the  Bill   be read  a  second  time 

upon  Monday  next. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without  Question  put,  pursuant 
to  the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20th 
day  of  August  last,  it  being  then  eleven 
minutes  before 
.Six  of  the  clock,  till 
Monday  next. 

[No.  169.] 
Monday, 1st November  1909. 

The House met at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three  of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

THE  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded 

to take into consideration  Robert.  Gordon's 
Technical  College  and  Aberdeen  Endowments 
Trust Order Confirmation Bill. 

And  Amendments  were  made  to  the  Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

upon Wednesday next. 

Several Public  Petitions were presented, and 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Secretary Sir  Edward Grey  presented,  by His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  and 
Consular Reports,  Annual  Series, No. 4376. 

Ordered,  That "the  said  Paper  do  lie  u p On   the 

Table. 

o 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command, —Copy  of  Colonial  Report,  No.  62 
(Uganda Protectorate,  Report  on  the  introduc­
tion  and  establishment  of  the  Cotton  Industry 
in the Uganda Protectorate.  By Sir H. Hesketh 
Bell, K.C.M.G., Governor  of Uganda). 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  General Report 
and  Statistics  for  the  year  1908.  Part  III., 
Output.  G eneral Report and Statistics relating 
to the output and value  of  the  Minerals  raised 
in  the  United  Kingdom, the  amount and value 
of  the  Metals  produced,  and  the  Exports  and 
Imports  of  Minerals. 

Copy  of  Return  of  Alien  Passengers brought 
to  the  United  Kingdom from  Ports  in Europe, 
or  within  the  Mediterranean  Sea,  during  the 
three  months  ending  30th  September  1909; 
together  with  the  number  of  Expulsion Orders 
made  during  that  period  requiring  Aliens  to 
leave the United Kingdom. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Command,—Copy  of Return  of the Proceedings 
of  the Irish  Land  Commission  under  the Land 
Law  Acts,  the  Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts, 
1883-91,  and the  Land  Purchase  Acts,  during 
the month  of July  1909. 

Robert 
Gordon's 
Technical 
College and 
Aberdeen 
Endowments 
Trust Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Supple­
ment to 
Fifth  Report. 

Trade Reports 
(Annual 
Series.') 

Colonial 
Reports 
(Miscel­
laneous.) 

Mines and 
Quarries. 

Aliens Act, 
1905. 

Irish Land 
Commission 
(Proceedings.) 

Agricultural 
Statistics 
(Ireland.) 

Copy  of  Agricultural  Statistics  of  Ireland  for 

the  year  1908. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

VOL.  164. 

Mr.  Hobhonse  presented,  by  His  Majesty's Public  Works 

Command,—Copy  of  Seventy-seventh  Annual (IreIand0 
Report  of  the  Commissioners  of  Public  Works 
in  Ireland,  with  Appendices,  for  the  year
ending 31st  March  1909. 

c 

Ordered, That the said  Paper  do lie upon the  


Table. 


Ordered, That there be laid before this House  Adjournment 
a  Return  of  Motions  for  Adjournment  under  Motions under 
Standing Order No. 10, showing the  date of such order No. 10. 
Motion,  the  name  of  the  Member  proposing, 
the definite matter  of  urgent public importance, 
and  the  result  of  any  Division  taken  thereon 
during  Session  1909  (in  continuation  of  Par­
liamentary  Paper,  No. 360  of  Session  1908).— 
(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

Ordered,, That there be laid before this  House  Public  Bills, 

a  Return  of  the  number  of  Public  Bills, 
distinguishing  Government  from  other  Bills, 
introduced into this  House  or  brought from the 
House  of  Lords during  Session  1909,  showing 
the  number which  received  the Royal  Assent; 
the  number  which were  passed  by this  House 
but  not  by  the  House  of  Lords ;  the number 
passed  by  the  House  of  Lords  but  not  by 
this  House;  and  distinguishing  the  stages  at 
which  such Bills  as  did  not  receive  the  Royal 
Assent were  dropped  or  postponed  and rejected 
in either House  of  Parliament  (in  continuation 
of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  0.207  of  Session 
1908).—(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

Ordered,  That there  be laid before this  House Public 

  number  of  Public  Petitions Petltion8, 

a  Return  of  the
presented and printed  in  Session 1909, with the 
total  number  of  signatures  in  that  year  (in 
continuation  of  Parliamentary Paper,  No. 0.209 
of Session  1908).—(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

Ordered, That there  be laid before this  House Select 

a  Return  of  the  number  of  Select Committees Committees, 
appointed  in  Session  1909  and  the  Court  of 
Referees;  the  Subjects  of  inquiry;  the  names 
of  the  Members  appointed  to  serve  on  each, 
and  of  the  Chairman  of  each ;  the  number of 
days  each  Committee  met,  and the  number of 
days each Member attended ;  the  total  expense 
of  the  attendance  of  Witnesses  at  each  Select 
Committee, and the  name  of  the  Member who 
moved  for  such  Select  Committee;  also  the 
total  number  of  Members  who  served  on 
Select  Committees  (in  continuation  of  Parlia­
mentary Paper, No.  0.206  of  Session  1908).— 
(The  Deputy Chairman.) 

Ordered, That there be laid before this House  Standing 
a  Return,  for  the  Session  of  1909,  of  (1)  the  Committees, 
total  number  and  the  names  of  all  Members 
(including  and  distinguishing  Chairmen)  who 
have  been  appointed  to serve  on one or  more of 
the four  Standing  Committees  appointed under 
Standing  Order No. 47, showing, with regard  to 
each  of such Members, the number of Sittings at 
which he was present and the number of Divisions 
in  which  he  took  part;  and  (2)  the  number  of 
Bills considered by all and by each  of  the Stand­
ing  Committees,  the  number  of  days  on which 
each  Committee  sat,  and the  names  of  all  Bills 
considered  by  a  Standing  Committee,  distin­
guishing where a Bill was a Government Bill  or 
was  brought  from  the  House  of  Lords,  and 
showing,  in  the case of  each  Bill, the  particular 
Standing Committee  by whom it was considered, 
the  number  of  days  on  which  it was  considered 
by the Committee, and  the number of  Members 
present  on  each  of  those  days  (in  continuation 
of  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  0.205  of  Session 
1908).—(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

3  u 

 
514 

1st  November. 

1909. 

[No. 169. 

Sittings of 
the  House. 

Ordered, That there be laid before this  House 
a Return  of  the  number of  days  on which  the 
House sat in Session 1909, stating  for each  day 
the  date  of  the  month  and  day  of  the  week, 
the  hour  of  the  meeting  and  the  hour  of 
adjournment;  and  the  total  number  of  hours 
occupied  in  the  Sittings  of  the  House,  and 
the  average  time;  and  showing  the  number 
of  hours  on  which  the  House  sat  each  day, 
and  the  number  of  hours  after  Eleven  p.m. ; 
and  the number  of  entries  in  each  day's Votes 
and  Proceedings  (in  continuation  of  Parlia­
mentary  Paper, No. 0.208  of  Sessionf  1908).— 
(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

to  the  Chairman  of  the  Committee  of  Ways 
and  Means,  together  with  the  names  of  the 
Members  who served  on  each  Committee,  the 
number  of  days  on  which  each  Committee  sat, 
and the number of  days  on which each  Member 
attended: 
And  of  the  number  of  Private 
Bills,  Hybrid  Bills,  and  Bills  for  confirming 
Provisional  Orders withdrawn  or not  proceeded 
with  by  the  parties, those  Bills being specified 
which  have  been  referred  to  Committees  and 
dropped  during  the  Sittings  of  the  Com­
mittee (in continuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper, 
No.  0.204  of  Session  1908).—(The  Deputy 
Chairman.) 

Private  BiDs 
Business^6

Business of 
Ordered, That  there  be laid before this House 
the  House 
a Return showing, with reference to Session 1909, 
(Days 
(1)  the number of Sittings  at which Government 
Occupied by 
Government  Business  had  precedence  under  the  Standing 

Members!) 

6 ( ) r d e r  s  during  the entire Sitting ;  (2)  the num­

ber  of  Sittings  on  Tuesdays  and Wednesdays 
at which precedence  was  given  to  Government 
Business  up  till  8.15  p.m.,  and  to  Private 
Members  at  8.15  p.m.,  and  the  number  of 
Sittings  on Fridays  at  which  Private  Members 
had  precedence  under  the  Standing  Orders; 
(3)  the  number  of  Sittings  at  which  Govern­
ment  Business  was  given  precedence  under  a 
Special  Order  of  the  House during  the entire 
Sitting;  (4)  the  number  of  Saturday  Sittings; 
(5)  the  total  number  of  Sittings  at  which 
Government  Business  had  precedence;  (6)  the 
total number  of  days  on  which the  House  sat; 
and (7)  the  number  of  days  on which Business 
of  Supply  was  considered  (in  continuation  of 
Parliamentary  Paper, No. 362  of Session 1908). 
—(The  Deputy  Chairman.) 

Ordered,  That there be laid before this House 

  R e t u r  n   o f  t h  e  number of  Private Bills, Hybrid 
a
Bills, and Bills for confirming Provisional Orders 
introduced  into  the  House  of  Commons  and 
brought from  the  House  of  Lords, and of  Acts 
passed,  in  Session  1909, classed  according  to 
the  following  Subjects: —  Railways ;  Tram­
ways ;  Tramroads;  Subways;  Canals  and 
Navigations;  Roads  and  Bridges;  Water; 
Waterworks ;  Gas ;  Gas  and Water ;  Lighting 
and Improvement;  Police and Sanitary Regula­
tions ;  Corporations, &c. (not relating  to  Police 
and  Sanitary  Regulations,  or  to  Lighting  and 
Improvement Schemes);  Ports, Piers, Harbours, 
and  Docks;  Churches,  Chapels,  and  Burying 
Grounds;  Markets  and Fairs ;  Gaols  and other 
County  Buildings;  Inclosure  and  Drainage; 
Estate ;  Patent;  Divorce ;  Naturalisation ; 
Hospitals;  Name;  Legitimisation,  and Miscel­
laneous : 
Of  all  the  Private  Bills,  Hybrid 
Bills,  and  Bills  for  confirming  Provisional 
Orders  which,  in  Session  1909,  have  been 
reported  on  by Committees  on opposed Private 
Bills,  or  by  Committees  nominated  partly  by 
the  House  and  partly  by  the  Committee  of 
Selection, together with the names of the selected 
Members who  served  on  each  Committee ;  the 
first  and "also the last day of  the Sitting  of  each 
Committee;  the  number of  days  on which  each 
Committee  sat;  the  number  of  days  on  which 
each selected Member has served;  the number  of 
days occupied  by each  Bill  in  Committee;  the 
Bills the  Preambles  of  which  were  reported to 
have  been  proved;  the  Bills  the  Preambles of 
which  were  reported to  have  been not  proved; 
and,  in  the  case  of  Bills  for  confirming  Pro­
visional Orders, whether  the Provisional Orders 
Of  all 
ought  or ought not  to  be  confirmed : 
Private  Bills and Bills for confirming Provisional 
Orders  which,  in  Session  1909,  have  been  re­
ferred  by the Committee  of  Selection,  or by the 
General  Committee  on Railway and Canal Bills, 

Ordered,  That there be laid before this House  Private 

a  Return  of  all  the  Draft  Provisional  Orders 
under the Private Legislation  Procedure  (Scot- (scotiand> 
land) Act,  1899,  which  in  the  Session  of 1909 Act, 1899. 
have  been  reported  on by  Commissioners ;  to­
gether  with  the  names  of  the  Commissioners; 
thefirst and also the  last  day  of  the Sittings  in 
each group ;  the number  of  days  on which  each 
body  of Commissioners sat;  the number of days 
on  which  each  Commissioner  has  served;  the 
number  of  days  occupied  by  each  Draft  Pro­
visional  Order  before the  Commissioners ;  the 
Draft  Provisional  Orders  the  Preambles  of 
which were  reported to have been  proved ;  and 
the Draft Provisional  Orders  the  Preambles of 
which  were reported to have been not proved.— 
(The Lord Advocate.) 

John  Molesworth Thomas  Dumphreys, Esquire, New  Member 

Member  for  the  Borough  of  Southwark  (Ber-sworn, 
mondsey  Division), was sworn. 

Ordered,  That  the Amendments made  by  the  Electric 
Lords  to  the  Amendments  made by this  House  ^ ^ m i n t  ) 
to  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts  (Amendment) lBm 
Bill  [lords]  be  taken  into  consideration  to-  Bill  351. 
morrow ;  and be printed. 

The House, according  to  Order, proceeded to Housing, 
take into  consideration  the  Amendments  made ^J*™.  &c 
by  the  Lords  to  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, en"11"18'  °° 
&c.  Bill. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  1,  1. 17,  leave 
out ( "  and  confirmed  by the  Board "),  the  first 
Amendment,  being read a second time ; 

And a Motion  being  made,  and the  Question 
being put, That  this House  doth  disagree  with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr. Burns) ; 

The House divided.  

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left.  


Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease,

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Herbert  Lewis :
Tellers for the/ Viscount Morpeth,

Noes, 

(Mr.  Rawlinson  :

") 163. 
J* 
\ 
J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  1,  1.  18,  after 

("  Act"),  insert— 

( "  (2)  If  within  the  period  prescribed by the 
Board  no  objection  to  an  order  under  this 
section  has  been  presented  to  the  Board  by  a 
person interested  in  the  land,  or  if  every such 
objection has  been  withdrawn,  the  Board  shall, 
without further inquiry, confirm the order, either 
without modification  or subject  to such modifica­
tions  as they think  fit;  but  if  such  an  objection 
has been presented and has  not been withdrawn, 
the Board shall appoint  an  impartial  person not 
in the employment  of  any  Government  Depart­
ment to hold a public inquiry  on  their  behalf  in 
the locality  in which the land  is  proposed  to  be 

 
TF0.169 ] 

9  E D W.  V I I. 

ls£  November. 

5 15 


acquired, and the local  authority and all persons 
interested  in the land, and such other persons  as 
the person  holding the inquiry,  in his discretion, 
thinks fit to allow, shall  be  permitted  to  appear 
and be heard at the inquiry. 

(3)  If the person who held the inquiry reports 

or  if,  on  considering  his  report,  it  appears  to 
the Board, that by reason of  the extent  or situa­
tion  of any  land  proposed  to  be  acquired com­
pulsorily,  or the purposes fOr which such  land is 
used,  or any other circumstances,  the land ought 
not  to  be  acquired  compulsorily  without  the 
sanction of  Parliament, the  order  of  the Board 
shall  be  provisional  only,  and  shall  not  have 
effect unless confirmed by Parliament. 

(4)  An order, other than a  Provisional Order, 
made by the Board under this section shall come 
into force after it has lain for thirty  days during 
the Session  of  Parliament  on the  Table  of  both 
Houses  of  Parliament,  unless  either  House 
during those thirty days presents  an  Address  to 
His Majesty against the order, in  which case  no 
further  proceedings  shall  be  taken  thereon, 
but  without  prejudice to  the  making  of  a new 
order"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second time, was disagreed to. 

Then the subsequent  Lords' Amendments,  as 
far as the Amendment  in  p. 5,  1. 17,  being read 
a second  time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  5,  1.  17,  after 

(" expedient"), insert— 

("  (4)  An  order relating  to  Part  III.  of  the 
principal Act  made  by  the  Local  Government 
Board under  this  section  shall  not  take  effect 
until  a  draft  thereof  has  lain  for  thirty  days 
during the  Session  of  Parliament  on  the  Table 
of  both  Houses  of  Parliament,  and  if  either 
House  during  those  thirty  days  presents  an 
Address  to  His  Majesty  against  the  draft  no 
further proceedings  shall  be  taken  thereon, but 
without prejudice  to the making  of  a  new  draft 
order"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read a 
second time ; 

And a Motion being  made,  and  the  Question 
being put,  That this  House  doth  disagree with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr. Burns) ; 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for thefMr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

1 174 
f 
Tellers for thefMr.  Walter  Guinness,  1 
\ Sir Frederick  Banbury :  1 

I Mr. Herbert  Lewis  : 

Noes, 


50. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  5,  1.  19, after 

( "  mandamus "),  insert— 

( "  (6)  For the purposes  of  this section,  so far 
as  it  relates  to  Part III.  of  the  principal Act, 
the expression ' local authority' shall not include 
the  London  County Council,  or  the  council  of 
any  county  borough"),  the  next  Amendment, 
being read a second time ; 

And  a  Motion  being made, and the Question 
being  put, That  this  House  doth  disagree with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—( Mr. Burns); 

Then  the  subsequent  Lords' Amendments, as 
far  as  the  Amendment  in p.  6,  1. 23, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  6,  1.  23,  after 
( "  purposes "),  insert  (" unless  after  a  local  in­
quiry the  county  council  are  satisfied that  it  is 
just  to limit the charge  for  the whole  or part of 
the expenses  so incurred  to the  rural district, or 
to  some  contributory  place  or  places  therein, 
in  which  case  they  may  order  that  any  such 
expenses shall  be  so charged"), the next Amend­
ment, being read a second time, was disagreed to. 
The Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  6,  1.  30,  leave 
out  from (" habitation ")  to  the  first ("  a "),  in 
1. 36, the next  Amendment, being read  a second 
time, was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  7,  1.  5,  after 
("  pounds "),  insert  ("  there  shall  be  implied  a 
condition that  the house is  at the commencement 
of  the  holding  in all  respects  reasonably fit for 
human  habitation,  but  the  condition  aforesaid 
shall not  be implied when  a  house  or  part  of  a 
house is let for a term  of not less than three years 
upon the terms that  it  be  put by the lessee into 
a  condition  reasonably fit for  occupation "),  the 
next Amendment, being  read a second time, was 
amended,  in  1.  6,  by  inserting, after  the word 
"  years," the words "  and  the  lease is not deter­
minable  at  the  option  of  either party before the 
expiration  of that term."—(Mr.  Burns.) 

And the Lords' Amendment,  so amended, was 

agreed to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  7,  1.  10, after 
("habitation"),  insert  ("but  nothing  herein 
contained  shall  make  it  obligatory  on the  land­
lord  to  remedy any defect  caused  by the act or 
default  of  the  tenant  or occupier,  or any person 
for whom the tenant  is,  as  between  himself  and 
the landlord, responsible. 

(2)  The landlord  or the local authority, or any 
person authorised by him or them in writing, may 
at reasonable times of the day, on giving twenty-
four  hours'  notice  in  writing  to  the  tenant  or 
occupier, enter  any house,  premises,  or  building 
to which  this section applies  for  the  purpose of 
viewing  the  state  and condition  thereof"),  the 
next Amendment,  being read a second time ; 

An  Amendment was proposed  to  be  made  to 
the said Lords' Amendment,  by leaving out from 
the  beginning  thereof  to  the  end  of  1.  5.— 
(Mr.  Burns) 

And the Question  being  put, That the words 
proposed  to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  said 
Lords' Amendment; 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the j 

D 

I 

Yea8' 

(  Faber: 

Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph Pease,

Noes, 

( Mr. Herbert  Lewis :

j 
(  ia« 
j 

So it passed in the Negative. 
And the  Lords' Amendment,  so amended, was 

agreed to. 

Then  the  subsequent Lords' Amendments,  as 
far  as  the  Amendment  in  p.  7,  1. 33, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

IMr. Herbert  Lewis : 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  7,  1.  33, after 
("  Board "),  insert  ("  01* the county court of  the 
district"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read a 
second time ; 

1 1*77 
J 

Tellers for thefMr.  Scott, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Walter  Guinness:  J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

VOL.  164. 

53. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the Question 
being  put, That  this  House  doth disagree with 
the Lords  in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Burns);
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The  House divided. 	
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the/Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Board  may  themselves  make  them,  and 
the regulations  so  made shall  have effect 
as  if  they  had  been  made  by  the  local 
authority with the consent of the Board. 

^ 190 
J 
\ 
j 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Rawlinson: 

I Captain Norton: 

Tellers for thefYiscount Morpeth, 

Provided  that a closing order made in respect 
of  a  room to which this subsection  applies  shall 
not  prevent  the room  being  used for  purposes 
other than those  of  a sleeping place "),  the next 
Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time,  was 
amended,  by  adding  at  the  end  thereof  the 
words "  and  if  the occupier  of  the  room,  after 
i n Se rt  («  or  the  local  authority  " ),  notice  of  an  order  has  been served  upon  him, 
fails  to  comply  with  the  order,  an  order  to 
comply  therewith  may,  on summary conviction, 
be made against him."—(Mr.  Burns.)

( «  B o a r t i  " 
and leave out (" fourteen " )  and insert ("  twenty-
one "),  the next Amendment, being read a second 
time, the Amendment was divided. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 7,  I.  38,  after 

So much of the Lords' Amendment as proposes, 

after ("Board "),  to insert ( "  or the  local autho­
rity  " j  was disagreed to. 

So  much  of  the  Lords'  Amendment  as  pro-
poses  to  leave  out  ("  fourteen")  and  insert 
( "  twenty-one ")  was  agreed  to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  8,  1.  2,  after 
( "  lets "),  insert ("  to  a  tenant for his own habi­
tation"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second time, was disagreed to. 

Then  the  subsequent  Lords' Amendments, as 
far  as the Amendment  in p. 9/1.  3, being  read a 
second time, were agreed to. 

And the Lords' Amendment,  so amended, was 

agreed to. 

Then  the  subsequent Lords' Amendments, as 
far  as the Amendment  in  p. 11,1. 39,  being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The Lords' Amendment  in p. 11,  1. 39,  after Amendment 

("Board")  insert  ("or  the  local  authority"),dlvided' 
and leave out ("  fourteen") and insert ("  twenty­
one "), the next Amendment, being read a second 
time, the Amendment  was divided. 

So  much  of  the  Lords'  Amendment  as  pro-
poses, after ( "  Board "),  to insert ("  or the local 
authority " )  was disagreed to. 

So  much  of  the  Lords'  Amendment  as pro­
poses  to  leave  out  ("fourteen")  and  insert 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  9,  1. 3,  after 
("  authorities  '),  insert ("  and  the  provisions of 
subsection  (6)  of  the last foregoing section with  ("  twenty-one " )  was agreed to. 
respect  to  an appeal against any notice requiring 
the  execution  of  works  and  any  demand for  Then  the  subsequent  Lords'  Amendments,  as 
recovery  of  expenses,  and  against  any  order far  as the Amendment  in p.  12,1. 30, being read 
made with respect  to  those expenses under  this  a second time, were disagreed to. 
section"),  the  next  Amendment, being  read  a 
second time, was disagreed to. 

The Lords'  Amendment  in p.  12,1.  30, leave 
out ("paragraphs were "), and insert ("paragraph 
The  Lords' Amendment  in  p, 9,  1.  17,  after  was "), the next Amendment, being read a second 

(" any " )  insert ("  other "),  and after  the second  time, was agreed to. 
("  or ")  insert (" other "),  the next Amendment,  The  Lords' Amendment  in p.  12,1. 37,  leave 
being read a second time, was agreed to. 
out from  the  beginning  to  the end of  the  sub ­
The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  9,  1. 26,  after  section,  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
insert  ("  or  the  county  second time, was agreed to. 

the  first  ("Board") 
court  of  the  district"),  and  after  the  second  The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.- 13,  leave  out Amendment 
( "  Board")  insert  ("or  the  local  authority  "),  Clauses 24 and 25, the  next  Amendment,  being divided, 
the next Amendment, being  read a second time, read a second time, the Amendment was divided. 
was disagreed to. 

And a Motion  being  made, and  the Question 
Then the  subsequent Lords'  Amendments, as  being  put,  That this House doth  disagree with 
far  as the Amendment  in  p. 10, 1.11, being read  so  much of  the Lords' Amendment  as proposes 
a second time, were agreed to. 

to leave out Clause 24—(Mr.  Burns)-, 

The  Lords' Amendment  in p.  10,  1. 11, after 
("  Board "),  insert  ( "  or  the county court  of  the 
district"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a  

second time, was disagreed to. 

The Lords' Amendment  in p.  10,  1. 12,  after 
("Board"),  insert  ("or  the  local authority"), 
the next Amendment,  being read  a second time, 
was disagreed to. 

The House divided.  

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the  ( Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the ( Mr. Henry  Forster, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Pike  Pease: 

1  ioq

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)
f  . 

' 

Then  the subsequent Lords' Amendments,  as 
far as the Amendment  in p.  10,  1. 28, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  10,  leave  out 
from  the  beginning  of  1. 28  to  the end of  1.4, 
p.  11, and insert— 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
So  much  of  the  Lords' Amendment  as  pro-

poses to leave out Clause  25  was agreed to. 

Then the  subsequent Lords' Amendments, as 
far  as the Amendment  in  p.  15,  1. 6, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  15,  1. 6,  leave 
out  (" general")  and  insert  ("  special "),  the 

(" (b)  does  not comply with such  regulations 
as  the  local  authority,  with  the consent  

of  the  Local  Government  Board,  may  next Amendment,  being read a second time ; 

prescribe  for  securing  the  proper venti- And a Motion  being made, and  the Question 

lation  and  lighting  of  such  rooms,  and  being  put, That this  House doth  disagree  with  

the  protection  thereof  against  dampness, the  Lords  in  the  said  Amendment  — (Mr. 

effluvia, or  exhalation:  Provided  that  if  Burns);

the  local authority, after  being  required  
 The House divided. 
to  do so by the Local Government Board, 
fail  to  make  such  regulations,  or  such 
regulations  as  the  Board  approve,  the 

The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes  to  the  Left, 

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Yeas, 

Tellers for the [Mr.  Joseph Pease, 
\ Captain Norton : 

1 
175. 
j 
Tellers for the f Sir Frederick  Banbury,  "1 
J 
\ Mr. Bowles: 

Noes, 

30. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Then  the  subsequent Lords' Amendments,  as 
far  as the Amendment in p.  17,1.  12, being read 
a  second time, were disagreed to. 

The Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  17,  1. 12, after 
Clause  38,  insert  Clause  A  (Duty  of  local 
authority  in administration  of  Housing Acts)— 

("  (1)  In  the  administration  of  the Housing 
Acts  it shall  be  the duty  of  the  local authority 
to  secure,  as  far  as  practicable, that  dwelling 
accommodation provided for the working classes 
under  those  Acts  is  occupied  exclusively  by 
persons of the working classes ;  and, other things 
being  equal,  the  local  authority  shall  give 
priority  to applications made by British subjects 
belonging  to  the  working  classes  for  such 
accommodation. 

(2)  The local authority shall cause a list to be 
kept showing  particulars  of  the accommodation 
comprised  in  every  dwelling  provided  by them 
in the exercise  of  their powers and duties under 
the Housing  Acts, and of the rent, and such list, 
so far  as it relates  to  dwellings vacant  or about 
to become vacant, shall be open  at all reasonable 
times, and subject  to such regulations  as may be 
prescribed  by the local  authority,  to the inspec­
tion, without payment, of ratepayers  in the area, 
and of  persons  of  the working classes who desire 
to  apply for  dwelling  accommodation  provided 
by  the  local  authority  under  the  Housing 
Acts"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second time  ; 

And  a  Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  put,  That  this  House  doth  disagree  with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Burns)  ; 

The House divided. 

The Yeas  to the Eight; 

The Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers  for the|Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Yeas, 

cCaptain Norton : 

|  182. 

Tellers for the/Mr.  Walter  Guinness,  \  „R 

Noes, 

IMr.  Hay: 

/ 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  17,  1. 13, after 
( "  Where "),  insert (" upon an application  made 
by one of the loeal authorities concerned "),  the 
next Amendment, being read a second time, was 
agreed to. 

The Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  17,1.  22,  after 
( " A c t ")  insert  ("including  costs"), [and after 
( "  Board ")  insert ("  or  a  county  court "),  the 
next Amendment, being read a second time, the 
Amendment was divided. 

So  much  of  the  Lords' Amendment  as pro­
poses,  after  ("  Act "),  to  insert  ("  including 
costs ")  was agreed to. 

So  much  of  the  Lords'  Amendment  as  pro­
poses,  after ("  Board "),  to insert ("  or a county 
court")  was disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  17,1.  23, after 
the first ( "  Board " )  insert  ("  or  the  authority 
having  power  to  make  rules  of  practice under 
the  County  Courts  Acts,  1888"),  and after the 
second  (" Board ")  insert ( "  or the  court"), the 
next Amendment, being read a second time, was 
disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p.  17,1.  29, after 
("  Board " )  insert  ("  or  the  court"),  and after 
("just")  insert— 

VOL.  164. 

("  (2)  The  decision  of  the  judge  of  county 
courts  of the district  on any appeal to the court 
under this Part of  this Act  shall  be final"), the 
next Amendment, being read a second time, was 
disagreed to. 

An  Amendment  was  made  to  the  Bill,  in 
p.  17,1. 29,  instead  of  the  words  last disagreed 
to,  by  inserting  the  words  "  Provided  that  the 
Local  Government  Board  may,  at any  stage of 
the  proceedings  on  appeal,  and  shall,  if  so 
directed  by the  High  Court, state  in  the form 
of  a  special  case  for  the  opinion  of  the court 
any question  of  law  arising  in the course  of the 
appeal."—(Mr.  Burns.) 

Then the subsequent  Lords'  Amendments,  as 
far  as the Amendment  in p.  19,  1. 16, being read 
a second time,  were disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  19,1.  16, after 
Clause  44,  insert  Clause  B  (Power  to  Local 
Government Board to revoke unreasonable bye­
laws)— 

("  If  the  Local  Government  Board are satis­
fied,  by  local  inquiry  or  otherwise,  that  the 
erection  of  dwellings  for  the  working  classes 
within  any  borough,  urban  or  rural  district, is 
unreasonably  impeded  in  consequence  of  any 
byelaws  with respect  to new streets  or buildings 
in force therein, the Board may require the local 
authority  to  revoke  such  byelaws,  or  to  make 
such  new  byelaws  as  the  Board  may consider 
necessary for the removal of the impediment.  If 
the local  authority  do  not, within  three months 
after  such  requisition,  comply  therewith,  the 
Board may themselves revoke such byelaws, and 
make  such  new byelaws  as  they  may  consider 
necessary  for  the  removal  of  the  impediment, 
and  such  new  byelaws  shall  have  effect  as  if 
they had been duly  made  by the local authority 
and  confirmed  by  the  Board "), 
the  next 
Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time,  was 
agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p.  19,1.  20, after 
("interest"),  insert ("  or the  compulsory acqui­
sition  for  the  purposes  of  Part  III.  of  the 
Housing  of  the  Working  Classes Act,  1890,  of 
any  land  which  is  the  property  of  any  local 
authority,  or has  been acquired  by any corpora­
tion  or company for the  purposes  of  a railway, 
dock, canal, water,  or other  public undertaking, 
or which  at the  date  of  the  order forms part of 
any park, garden, or pleasure ground, or is other­
wise required for  the  amenity  or convenience of 
any  dwelling-house "),  the  next  Amendment, 
being read a second time, was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  19,  1. 35, after 
Clause  47,  insert  Clause  C  (Definition  of 
"  working classes " )  — 

( " The  expression  ' working  classes '  in  this 
Act shall include mechanics,  artizans, labourers, 
and others working  for  wages,  hawkers, coster­
mongers,  persons  not  working  for  wages  but 
working  at  some  trade  or  handicraft  without 
employing others except  members  of  their own 
family,  and  persons  whose  income  does  not 
exceed  an  average  of  thirty  shillings  a  week, 
and  such  persons  as  may  be  residing  with 
them"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second time, was disagreed to. 

The Lords' Amendment  in  p.  19,1. 38, leave 
out  ("consequently"),  the  next  Amendment, 
being read a second time, was agreed to. 

The Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 20,  1. 16, after 
(" acre "),  insert  ("  Provided  that the estimated 
annual  value  of  such  garden  shall  not  exceed 
three  pounds"),  the  next  Amendment,  being 
read a second time, was disagreed to. 

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Amendment
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V1 

Then the  subsequent Lords'  Amendments,  as 
far as the Amendment  in p. 23,1.  23, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 23,1.  23, after 
("  Board")  insert  ("  or  county  court  of  the 
district"),  and  after  ("that") 
insert  ("the 
reference  in section  seventeen to  a  public  local 
inquiry  shall  not  apply;  and  provided  further, 
where  an appeal is competent under any of these 
sections,  an appeal shall not be  competent under 
section  thirty-five  of  the  principal  Act,  and 
provided  also  that  the  power  to  make  rules 
under  section  thirty-nine  of  this  Act  shall  be 
exercised  by  the  Court  of  Session  by  act  of 
sederunt"),  the  next Amendment, being read a 
second time, the Amendment was divided. 

So much  of  the  Lords'  Amendment  as  pro­
poses,  after  ("Board"),  to  insert  ("or  county 
Court of the district")  was disagreed to. 

The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the f Viscount Morpeth,

Noes, 

(Mr.  Walter Guinness 
So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

145. 

29. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  25,  1.  19, 
leave  out ("or  for  the  execution"),  and  after 
("scheme  )  insert ("and  for  the  execution  of 
any works which  under  the scheme or  this Part 
of  this Act  are to  be executed  by a local autho­
rity "), the next Amendment, being read a second 
time, was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p. 25,  1. 29, leave 

out  from  ("  scheme")  to  the  end  of  the  sub­
section,  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second time, was disagreed to. 

So  much  of  the  Lords'  Amendment  as pro­
poses, after ("  that"),  to insert  ("  the  reference 
in  section  seventeen  to  a  public  local  inquiry 
shall  not  apply;  and  provided  further,  where 
an  appeal  is  competent  under  any  of  these 
sections, an appeal shall not be competent under 
section thirty-five  of  the principal  Act,  and pro­
vided also that  the  power to  make  rules  under 
section thirty-nine  of this Act  shall be  exercised 
by the Court  of  Session  by  act  of  sederunt") 
was amended, by  adding  at the  end thereof  the 
words  "and  the  appeal  in  section  forty  shall 
apply,  with  the  substitution  of  the  Court  of 
Session  for  the  High  Court"—(The  Lord 
Advocate),—and  agreed to. 

Then  the subsequent  Lords'  Amendments,  as 
far  as  the Amendment  in p. 26,  1. 5, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 26,  1. 5,  after 
(" duties"),  insert  ("  Provided  that  no  local 
authority shall  be  authorised, except  as  a  con­
stituent of a joint  body constituted  as aforesaid, 
to enforce  the observance  or  the  execution  of a 
town-planning  scheme  under  this  Part  of  this 
Act  in  respect  of  any land  within  the  area of 
another  local  authority, unless  such  other  local 
authority  is  not  prepared  to carry  out  a  town-
planning  scheme  for  the  area  in  question"), 
the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a  second 
time ; 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p. 23,1.  26, leave 
out  ("apply")  and  insert  ("have  effect"), the 
next Amendment, being read a second time, was 
agreed to. 

The Lords' Amendment  in  p. 24,1.  24, leave 
out  subsections  (4),  (5),  and  (6),  the  next 
Amendment, being read a second time ; 

And a Motion  being made, and  the  Question 
being put, That  this  House  doth  disagree with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Burns); 

The  House  divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 

Tellers for the I Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Captain Norton : 
Sir Alexander  Acland-

Tellers  for  the f 
>
Noes, 
[Viscount  Valentia: 

Hood, 

164. 

39. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after Twelve  of the clock  on Tuesday  morning ; 

Tuesday, 2nd November  1909 : 

Then  the  subsequent  Lords'  Amendments, as 
far  as the Amendment  in  p. 25,1.  18,  being read 
a second time, were disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment 

in  p.  25,  1.  18, 
after ("  apply " )  insert ( "  including  a  schedule 
showing each parcel of  land which it is proposed 
shall  be  affected  by  the  making  of  a scheme, 
together  with  a  map  or  plan"),  and  after 
("  and") 
tbe  next 
insert  ( "  specifying"), 
Amendment,  being read a second time ; 

And a  Motion  being made, and  the Question 
being  put, That  this House  doth  disagree with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr.Herbert 
Lewis); 

The House divided. 

And  a Motion  beiug made, and  the Question 
being put, That  this  House  doth  disagree with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Burns); 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

1 Captain Norton: 

Tellers for the/Lord  Robert Cecil, 
1 Sir Henry  Craik : 

Noes, 

1131. 
J 
} 29. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  26,  1.  6, 
after  ("Provided"),  insert  ("also"),  the  next 
Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time,  was 
disagreed to. 

Then  the subsequent  Lords'  Amendments, as 
far  as the Amendment in p. 26,1,  14, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p. 26,1.  14, leave 
out ("  obtaining the approval  of the Board to "), 
and insert ( " the submission  to  the Board  of "), 
the next Amendment, being read a second  time, 
was disagreed to. 

Then  the  subsequent  Lords' Amendments, as 
far  as the Amendment  in p. 27,1.  6, being read 
a second time, were disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 27,  1. 6, leave 
out  (" local " )  and  insert  ( "  responsible "),  the 
next  Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time, 
was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p. 27,  1. 13, leave 
out from ( "  work ")  to the end of the subsection, 
and  insert  ("the  matter  may  be  referred  for 
decision  to  the  county  court  of  the  district  in 
the same manner and  subject  to  the  like provi­
sions  as  an  appeal  to  that  court  under  Part  I. 
of  this Act"),  the next Amendment, being read 
a second time, was disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p. 27,1.  17, leave 
out  ("operation")  and  insert  ("making"),  the 

 
 
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—2nd  November. 

next  Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time, 
was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  27,  1. 20,  leave 
out  ("approval  " )  and  insert  ( "  confirmation"), 
the next  Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time, 
was  disagreed  to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p. 27,  1. 24,  leave 
out ("claim")  and  insert  (" obtain "),  the  next 
Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time,  was 
agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p. 27,  1. 31, leave 
out  ("  approval ")  and  insert (" confirmation "), 
the next Amendment, being read a second  time, 
was disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p.  27,  1. 34,  leave 
out  ("operation")  and  insert  ("making"),  the 
next  Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time, 
was agreed  to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in p. 27,  1. 38, leave 
out (" approval ")  and  insert ("  confirmation "), 
the next Amendment, being read a second time, 
was disagreed to. 

The Lords'  Amendment  in p.. 27,  1. 41, leave 
out ("  the amount of  that increase "),  and insert 
( "  such  proportion  of  the  expenditure  of  the 
authority as,  failing  agreement,  in  the  opinion 
of the arbitrator, has increased the value  of such 
property "),  the next  Amendment, being read a 
second time; 

And  a Motion being made, and  the Question 
being  put,  That  this House  doth  disagree with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—( Mr. Burns) ; 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the I Mr.  Bowles, 

Noes, 

I Mr. Newdegate: 

113. 

26. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
The  Lords' Amendment  in  p. 28,  1.  7,  leave 
out  from ("  by  " )  to  the  end of  the subsection, 
and  insert  ("  arbitration  under  this  Act  in 
accordance  with  the  First  Schedule  to  this 
Act"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second  time,  was  amended,  by inserting  at the 
commencement  of  the  words  inserted  by  their 
Lordships  the  word  "  the,"  and  by leaving out 
from the word  "  arbitration "  to  the  end there­
of, and  adding the words  "  of  a single arbitrator 
appointed  by  the  Local  Government  Board, 
unless  the  parties agree  on  some other  method 
of  determination "  —  (Mr.  Burns),  —  instead 
thereof. 

And  the  Lords'  Amendment,  so  amended, 

was  agreed  to. 

The Lords' Amendment  in  p. 28,  1. 23, leave 
out  ("  reasonably  have  been  inserted  in "), and 
insert  ("be  enforced  by"),  the  next  Amend­
ment,  being  read  a second  time, was  disagreed 
to. 

Then  an  Amendment  was  made  to the  Bill, 
instead of the Lords' Amendment  last disagreed 
to,  in  p.  28,  1.  23,  by  leaving  out  the  words 
"  could  reasonably have  been  inserted  in,"  and 
inserting the words "  would  have  been  enforce­
able  if  they  had  been  contained  in"—(Mr. 
Burns),—instead thereof. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 28,  1. 24, after 
( " authority "), insert ("  or  are  similar  in  effect 
to  any  enactment  which  would  have  been  in 
force within the area to which the town-planning 
scheme  applies  but  for  the  operation  of  such 
scheme"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second time,  was disagreed to. 

VOL.164.  

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519 
Then the  subsequent  Lords' Amendments,  as 
far as the Amendment  in p. 28,  1. 34, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 28,  1. 34,  after 
("  purpose "),  insert  ("  Provided  that if  it  shall 
appear  to  the  arbitrator  that  such  provisions 
are  unusual  and  impose  excessive  restrictions 
upon  the use  of  the  property,  and  that  under 
all  the  circumstances  compensation  should  be 
awarded,  he  may,  notwithstanding  anything  in 
this  subsection  contained,  award  such  compen­
sation  as  he may think just "),  the next Amend­
ment, being  read  a  second  time, was disagreed 
to. 

Then the  subsequent  Lords' Amendments,  as 
far as the Amendment  in  p. 29,  1. 39, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  29,  1. 39, leave 
out  ("imposed")  and  insert  ("inserted"),  the 
next Amendment, being read a second time, was 
disagreed to. 

Then  the subsequent  Lords' Amendments,  as 
far as  the Amendment  in p. 30,1.  14, being read 
a second time, were disagreed to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p. 30,  1. 14, after 
( "  enforce "),  insert  ("  effectively"),  the  next 
Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time,  was 
agreed to. 

Then  the subsequent  Lords'. Amendments, as 
far  as the Amendment  in  p. 30,  1. 20,  being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  30,  1. 20, after 

("  mandamus "),  insert  as a new subsection— 

( "  (4)  For  the  purposes  of  this  section  the 
expression  'local  authority'  shall  not  include 
the  London  County Council  or  the  council  of 
any  county  borough"),  the  next  Amendment, 
being read a second time, was disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  30,  1. 21, leave 
out Clause 62, and  insert  Clause E  (Procedure 
of  Local Government Board  on application)— 

( "  The  procedure  of  the  Local  Government 
Board,  upon  an  application  in  respect  of  any 
matter which  they are  authorised  by this  Part 
of this Act  or  by any  scheme  made  thereunder 
to  determine,  shall  be  such  as  the  Board may 
by ndes determine, and  on  any such  application 
the  Board  may make  such order  in  the matter 
as  they think equitable, and  any  order  so made 
shall  be binding and conclusive  on all parties "), 
the next Amendment, being  read a second time, 
was disagreed to. 

Then  the  words  so  restored to  the Bill were 
amended,  in p.  30,  by leaving  out  Is. 30  to  37, 
inclusive.—(Mr.  Burns.) 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 31,  1.  14,  after 
( "  Acts "),  insert  ( "  provided that in the case of 
a rural  authority such  expenses  shall  be levied 
in  such  manner  and  by such separate rate  and 
subject  to the same exceptions  and provisions as 
are  applicable  under  the  said  Acts  to  special 
expenses"),  the  next  Amendment,  being read a 
second time ; 

And a Motion  being  made,  and the Question 
being  put,  That  this House  doth disagree  with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr. Burns) j 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for thefMr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain Norton: 

Tellers for the fMr.  Hay,  


Noes, 

(Earl  of  Kerry  : 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 


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1st—2nd November. 

1909. 

[No. 169. 

The Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 31,  1. 25, after 

Then the  subsequent Lords' Amendments,  as 
( "  shall"), insert ( " except as otherwise expressly  far  as  the Amendment  in p.  42,  1. 17, inclusive, 
provided "),  the  next Amendment,  being  read a  being read a second time, were disagreed to. 
second time, was disagreed to. 

And  a  consequential  Amendment  was  made 
Then the subsequent Lords'  Amendments,  as  to the  Bill,  in  p. 42,  1. 19, by leaving  out  from 
far  as  the  Amendment  in  p.  32,  1.  38,  being  the  word  "  nine"  to  the  second  word  "  sub-
read a second time, were agreed to. 

section,"  in  1. 22.—(The  Lord  Advocate.) 

The Lords' Amendment  in  p. 32,1.  38, leave 
out  subsection (2), the  next Amendment, being 
read a second time, was agreed to; 

Then  an Amendment was proposed to be made 
to the Bill, instead  of  the words last left out, in 
p.  32,  1. 37, by  inserting  at  the end  thereof  as 
a new subsection the words— 

"  (2) The duties  of  a medical  officer  of health 
of  a county shall  be such general duties  as may 
be  prescribed  by  order  of  the  Local Govern­
ment  Board,  and  such  other  duties  as  may 
be  assigned  to  him  by  the  county  council."— 
(Mr. jBurns.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

The  Lords'  Amendments  in p. 42,  leave  out 
Is.  24  and  25,  and  Is.  37  to  50,  the  next 
Amendments,  being  read  a  second  time,  were 
disagreed to. 

And a  consequential  Amendment  was  made 
to the Bill,  in p. 43,1.19,  column 3, by inserting 
at the end thereof the words "  In subsection  (3) 
of  section  ninety-seven  the  words  'the  time 
allowed under  any  order  for  the  execution  of 
any works  or the  demolition  of  a building  or.'" 
—(The  Lord  Advocate.) 

Then the  subsequent Lords'  Amendments, as 
far  as the Amendment  in p. 43,  1. 30, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

be there inserted in the Bill; 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas  to  the  Bight; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left.  

Tellers for thefMr. Joseph Pease, 

\Captain  Norton : 


Yeas, 

Tellers for the/ Mr.  Adkins,  


Noes, 

(Sir  William.  Collins  : 

And the remaining Lords' Amendment, being 

read a second time, was disagreed to. 

Ordered, That  a Committee  be  appointed  to 
draw  up Reasons  to  be  assigned  to  the Lords 
for disagreeing  to  certain  of  the  Amendments 
made  by their Lordships  to the Bill. 

J  25. 

And a Committee was nominated of Mr. Burns,
Lord  Robert  Cecil,  Mr.  Herbert  Lewis,  Mr. 
Lyttelton,  and Mr.  Rogers. 

So  it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative 
The  Lords' Amendment  in  p. 33,1.  9, leave 
out subsection (5),  the  next Amendment, being 
read a second time;, 

And a  Motion being  made, and the  Question 
being  put, That  this House  doth  disagree  with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Burns); 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for thej Mr. Joseph Pease, 
1 Captain Norton : 


Yeas, 

Tellers for the ("Mr. Adkins, 


Noes, 

1 Mr. Everett  : 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative 

}  23. 

The Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 33,  1. 22, after 
( "  appointed"),  insert  ( "  after  the  passing  of 
this Act"),  the  next  Amendment, being read a 
second time, was agreed to. 

And a  consequential  Amendment  was  made 
to  the Bill,  in  p. 33,  1. 36,  by  leaving  out  the 
word "duties,"  and inserting the words "  general 
duties  prescribed  by  the  Local  Government 
Board "—(Mr.  Burns),—instead  thereof. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  34,  1. 7, after 
("  or"), insert ("  except subsection (3) of section 
seventy to"),  the next Amendment,  being  read 
a second time, was agreed to. 

And  a  consequential  Amendment  was  made 
to the  Bill,  in  p. 34,  1. 7,  by inserting, after the 
word "  London," the  words "  and  in  the  appli­
cation  of  the  said  subsection  to  London  the 
reference  to  a  medical  officer  of  health  of  a 
district shall  be construed  as a  reference  to the 
medical  officer  of  health  of  a  metropolitan 
borough."—(Mr.  Burns.) 

Ordered, That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee :  And they  are  to  withdraw  imme­
diately.—(Mr.  Burns.) 

The Order  of the day being  read,  for  taking Small 
into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by I'weiiing­
the  Lords  to  the  Small  Dwelling-Houses  in 
111 
Burghs  Letting  and  Rating  (Scotland)  Bill  Letting and 
Cchanged  from  House  Letting  and  Rating  Bating 
  ^ 
(Scotland) Bill) ; 

^ 
Ordered,  That the said Amendments  be taken from  House 
Rating® and 
(Scotland) 
Bill.) 

into consideration this day. 

'

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assurance 

Second  Reading  of  the  Assurance  Companies 
Bill  [Lords]; 

1 

Bill  [ 

, 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Parliamentary 

Second  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Seats Seats (Peers 
(Peers  of  Scotland) Bill; 
of Scotland) 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a  second time 
upon  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant 
November. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dublin Police 

Second Reading  of  the Dublin Police Bill; 

B1U­

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be read a second time 
upon  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant 
November. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Union Officers 
Second Reading  of  the  Union  Officers  (Ireland)  (h'eland) Bill. 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be  read a second time 
upon  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant 
November. 

Then the  subsequent  Lords'  Amendments, as 
far as the Amendment  in p. 36,  1. 2,  being  read 
a second time, were agreed to, 

The  House, according to Order, resolved itself Prisons 
into a Committee  on the Prisons (Scotland) Bill ^9"tland) 
[Lords]. 

Bill {Lords.) 

The Lords' Amendment  in  p.  36,  1. 2,  after 
("confirming"),  insert ("or  sanctioning"),  the 
next Amendment, being read a second time, was 
disagreed to. 

(In  the Committee.)  


Clauses No.  1 and No.  2 agreed to. 

Bill  to be reported. 


So. 169.J  9 EDW.  VII. 

l s i f — -2 nd   November. 

521 

Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair; 
and  the  Deputy  Chairman  reported,  That  the 
Committee  had-  gone  through  the  Bill,  and 
directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the County 
Second Reading  of  the County Councils  Mort  ^°™eilseg 
_  Bill. WS6S 
gages  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the Bill  be  read a second time 

this day. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  now read  the  third 
time :—The  Bill  was accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  without  Amendment. 

Coal Mines 
Regulation 
BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coal Mines Regulation 
Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

Trustees' 
Accounts Bill.  Third  Reading  of  the Trustees'  Accounts  Bill; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  the  third  time 

upon  Wednesday  next. 

The  Summary  Jurisdiction  (Scotland)  Act, 
1908,  Amendment  Bill  [Lords] was, according 
to Order, read a second time. 

Summary 
Jurisdiction 
AcM908,} 
Amendment  Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Bill [Lords.-]  C o m m i t t ee   o f  t he   whole  House  for  this day.— 

(Mr. Joseph  Pease.) 

The Order  of  the day  being  read,  for  taking 
jnto consideration the Amendments made by the 

  L o r ds   t 0

  the  Development  and Road Improve­

Development 
and Road 
F E B S T*

ment Funds  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Amendments  be  taken 

into  consideration  upon  Friday  next. 

Irish Land 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
into consideration the Amendments made  by the 
Lords  to the Irish  Land  Bill; 

Ordered, That the said Amendments  be taken 

into consideration upon Thursday next. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 

Places of 
Worship 
mentKNol)  (Enfranchisement)  (No.   2)  Bill; 
Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the Bill be  read  a second time 

upon Thursday next. 

Bishopric of 
Sheffield Bill,  into  consideration  the Bishopric  of  Sheffield Bill, 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for taking 

as amended in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration upon Thursday next. 

Education 
(Adminis-

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Committee  on  the  Education  (Administrative 

p r i o n s) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Provisions)  Bill  [Lords] 

; 
Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

Cinemato-
graph  Bill. 

The Order  of  the  day being read, for taking 
into consideration the Amendments made by the 
Lords to the Cinematograph  Bill; 

Ordered, That the said Amendments  be taken 

into consideration this day. 

Expiring Laws  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Continuance  Committee  on  the  Expiring  Laws  Continuance 
Bl11, 

Bill j 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into the  said  Committee. 

VOL.  164. 

Mr.  Burns  reported  from  the  Committee Housing, 

appointed to draw  up Reasons  to  be assigned  to p°wn. 
the  Lords  for  disagreeing  to  certain  of  the Bj^nnmg'&c 
Amendments  made  by  their  Lordships  to  the 
Housing,  Town Planning. &c. Bill;  That  they 
had drawn  up Reasons  accordingly,  which  they 
had  directed  him  to  report  to the  House;  and 
the same were read,  as follow: 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the Amendments 
made  by the Lords  in  p.  1,1.  17, and p.  1,1.  18, 
for  the following  Reason :—Because  they  con­
sider  that  the  procedure  for  the  compulsory 
acquisition  of  land  under  the  Small  Holdings 
and Allotments Act,  1908,  is more appropriate. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made  by the Lords  in  p.  5,  1.  17, for  the  fol­
lowing  Reason : — Because  they  consider  that 
an administrative  order should  not require  sub­
mission to Parliament,  and that it  is inexpedient 
to  adopt  a  procedure  which  might  involve 
considerable delay. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made  by the Lords  in  p.  5,1.  19,  for  the  fol­
lowing  Reason :—Because  they  consider  that 
the provisions  in  question  should  apply  to  the 
London  County  Council  and  county  borough 
councils  as well  as to other local authorities. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made  by the Lords  in  p.  6,  1. 23,  for  the  fol­
lowing Reason :—Because it alters the incidence 
of  rates ;  and the Commons consider it unneces­
sary  to  offer  any  further  Reason,  hoping  the 
above Reason may  be deemed sufficient. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  7,  1.  33,  for  the 
following  Reason :—Because  the  county  court 
is not a tribunal suitable for the purpose. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made  by the  Lords  in p.  7,1.  38,  for  the  fol­
lowing  Reason :—Because  it  is  consequential 
on the Amendment  to p.  7,  1. 33. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made  by the  Lords  in  p.  8,  1.  2,  for  the  fol­
lowing  Reason :—Because  they  consider  it 
unnecessary, and it might lead  to evasion. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment  


made  by the  Lords  in  p.  9,  1.  3,  for  the  fol­
lowing  Reason :—Because  the  case  is  not  one  

in which there is any necessity for  an appeal. 


The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments 
made by the Lords  in  p.  9,  1. 26,  in  p.  10,1.  11, 
in p. 10,1.  12, and in p.  10, Is.  14  to 16, for the 
following  Reason :—Because  they  are  conse­
quential  on the Amendment  to p.  7,  1. 33. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made  by the Lords  in  p.  11,  1. 34,  for  the  fol­
lowing  Reason:—Because  they  consider  that 
there  should not  be an appeal against  a  refusal 
to grant  an indulgence. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the Amendments 
made by the Lords  in p.  11,  1. 38, in p.  11,1. 39, 
in  p.  12,  1.  11,  and  in  p.  12,  1.  13,  for  the 
following  Reason:—Because  they  are  conse­
quential  on the Amendments  to p. 7,1. 33. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made by the Lords  in  p. 13,  to leave out Clause 
24, for  the following Reason :—Because  they do 
not  consider  that  confirmation  by  Parliament 
is  required  in  the  cases  referred  to  in  the 
Clause. 

3  x 

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1 st—2nd November. 
The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments  1,  6,  for the following Reason :—Because  it may 
made  by  the Lords  in  p.  15,  1.  6,  p.  15,  1.  7,  be  desirable  that  a  local  authority  should  be 
and  p.  15,  1.  9,  for  the  following  Reason:—•  responsible  for  enforcing  the  observance  of  a 
Because  the  effect  of  these  Amendments  is  to  town-planning  scheme outside the district of  that 
alter the incidence  of  the  rates ;  and the  Com- authority. 
mons consider it unnecessary  to offer any further  The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments 
Reason,  hoping  the  above  Reason  will  be  made by the Lords  in p. 26. Is. 14 and  15, p.  26, 
deemed sufficient. 
1. 17,  p.  26,  1. 18,  and  p.  26,  1. 19,  for  the  fol-
The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment  lowing Reason:—Because  they are consequential 

1909. 

[No. 169, 

made  by the Lords  in p.  17,  to insert Clause A,  on the new Clause D, 
for  the  following  Reason :—Because  they con-
sider that  it  is  undesirable  to impose  a duty on  made  by the  Lords  in  p. 27,  1. 13, for the  fol­
local authorities which would be unenforceable. 
lowing Reason :—Because  it is consequential on 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

The  Commons  disagree to  the  Amendments  the Amendment  to p. 7,1.  33. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments 
made by the Lords  in p. 17,1.  22,  in  p.  17,1.23, 
in  p. 17,1. 29,  in  p.  17,  1. 31,  in  p.  17,  1. 38,  in  made  by  the  Lords  in  p. 27,  1. 20,  p.  27,  1. 31, 
p.  17,  1. 39,  and  in  p.  18,1.  1, for the  following  and  p. 27,  1.  38,  for  the  following  Reason  :— 
Reason :—Because  they  are  consequential  on  Because  they  are  consequential  on  the  new 
the Amendments  to p. 7,  1. 33. 

Clause D. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made by the Lords in p.  18,1.  14,  in p. 18,1.15,  made  by the  Lords  in  p. 27,  Is. 41  and 42, for 
in  p.  18,  1. 17,  in p.  18, Is.  20 and  21.  in  p. 18,  the following Reason :--Because the expenditure 
Is. 22 and 23, for the following Reason :—Because  of the local  authority has  no  necessary relation 
it is undesirable to retain the power  of dispensing  to any increase  in  the value  of  land attributable 
with the service  of notices in proper cases. 

to the making  of  a town-planning scheme. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments 
made  by the Lords  in  p.  19,1.  4,  in  p.  19,1.  7, 
and  in  p. 19,1.  9, for  the  following  Reason:— 
Because it  is  undesirable  to  facilitate the  pro­
vision  of  back-to-back houses. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  28,  1.  24,  for  the 
following  Reason:—Because  it  is  unnecessary 
and might throw doubt  on the effect o£  the  Bill. 
The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  28,  1.  34,  for  the 
following  Reason : —  Because  the  matter  will 
have to  be settled  by the  scheme and  ought not 
to be subject to revision  by  an arbitrator. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made by the Lords  in  p.  19,  to insert Clause C, 
for the following Reason :—Because the absence 
of  a definition of  the working  classes applicable 
to the  general  provisions  of  the  Housing  Acts 
The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments 
has occasioned  no inconvenience,  and  it  is  inex- made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  29,  1.  39,  p. 30,1.  2, 
pedient now to introduce such a definition. 
p. 30,  1. 4,  p. 30,1.  7, and p. 30,1s.  10 and 11, for 
the  following  Reason :—Because  they  are con-
sequential  on the new Clause  D. 

made  by the  Lords  in  p. 20,  1.  16,  for the  fol­
lowing  Reason:—Because  it  is  undesirable  to 
insert  a  limitation  on  the  annual  value  of  a  made  by the  Lords  in  p. 30,  1. 20,  for  the  fol­
cottage garden. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made  by the  Lords  in  p.  23,  1.  23,  for the fol­
lowing Reason :—Because  it is consequential  on 
the Amendment  to p.  7,  1. 33. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made by the Lords  in  p. 24, Is.  24  to 39, for the 
following  Reason :—Because  it is  consequential 
on  the  new  Clause  D  to  which  the  Commons 
disagree. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment  


made  by the  Lords  in  p.  25,  1.  3,  for  the  fol­
lowing  Reason:—Because 
it  is  desirable  to 
provide how the question whether  land  is  likely 
to  be  used  for  building  purposes  or  not  should 
be determined. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by the Lords  in p.  25,  to insert Clause D, 
for  the  following  Reason :—Because  it  would 
entail  such  delay  and  expense  as  to  render 
Part.  II.  of  the Bill nugatory. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment  Board. 

made by the  Lords  in  p. 25,1.  14,  for  the  fol-
lowing Reason :—Because  it is consequential  on 
the new Clause D. 

lowing  Reason :—Because  it  is  desirable  that 
the provisions  of  the  Clause should  apply  to the 
London  County  Council  and  county  borough 
councils  as well  as to local  authorities. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  31,  1.  14,  for  the 
following  Reason :—Because  the  effect  of  the 
Amendment  is  to  alter  the  incidence  of  the 
rates ;  and the Commons consider it unnecessary 
to  offer  any  further Reasons, hoping  the  above 
Reason may be deemed sufficient. 


The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  31,  1.  25,  for  the 
following  Reason :—Because  it  is consequential 
on the Amendment  to p.  30,1.  20. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by the  Lords  in p. 33, Is. 9 to 11, for  the 
following  Reason :—Because,  as  recommended 
by the  Select  Committee  on  the  Housing  Bill 
of  1906,  it  is  desirable  that  county  medical 
officers  of  health  should  be  removable  only 
with  the  consent  of  the  Local  Government 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  36,  1.  2,  for  the 
following  Reason : —Because  it  is  consequential 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment  on the new Clause  D. 

made by  the  Lords in  p.  25,1.  18,  for  the  fol-
lowing  Reason:—Because  the  matter  is  one 
which should be dealt with by regulations. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made by the Lords  in p. 37, Is.  11  to 18, for  the 
following  Reason :—Because  it  is consequential 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment  on the Amendment  to p.  1. 

made  by the  Lords  in  p. 25,  1.  29,  for  the  fol-
lowing  Reason :—Because  it  is  consequential 
on the new Clause D. 

I  The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  37,  1.  31,  for  the 
following  Reason  :—Because  it  is  desirable  to 
The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments  follow the precedent  of  the Small  Holdings and 

made  by the Lords  in  p. 26,  1. 5, and  in  p. 26,  Allotments Act,  1908. 

M I 6 9 .] 

9  E D W.  V I I. 

1st—2nd November. 

5 23 


The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  37,  1.  34,  for  the 
following  Reason:—Because  there  seems  no 
reason to draw a distinction between cases where 
the  Local  Government  Board  has  declared  a 
local authority  to  be  in default and other cases. 
The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  37,  1.  39,  for  the 
following Reason i—Because  it  is  consequential 
on  other  Amendments  to  which  the  Commons 
disagree. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  38,  1.  23,  for  the 
following  Reason:—Because  it  is  desirable  to 
follow the  precedent of the Small  Holdings and 
Allotments Act,  1908. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments 
made  by the  Lords  in  p. 39,  1. 8, and  in  p. 39, 
1.  13, for  the  following  Reason:—Because  they 
are  consequential  on  the Amendment  to  p. 37, 
1. 34. 

The  Commons  disagree "to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  39,  1.  25,  for  the 
following  Reason:—Because  it  is  consequential 
on the Amendment  to p. 7,1. 33. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by the  Lords  in  p. 41, Is.  11  and  12,  for 
the  following Reason :—Because  it  is  desirable 
to enable general provisions  to  be made applying 
enactments with the necessary modifications. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments 
made by the Lords  in p. 41,  1. 30,  in p. 41,1.  39, 
in p. 41,1.40,  and in p.  42,1.  6, for the following 
Reason :—Because they are consequential  on the 
new Clause D. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p. 42, Is. 24 and 25,  for 
the  following  Reason :—Because  it  is  conse­
quential on the omission  of  Clause 24. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by the  Lords in  p. 43, Is. 30  and 31,  for 
the  following  Reason :—Because  it  is  conse­
quential  on the omission  of Clause 24. 

The  said  Reasons,  being  read a second time, 

were agreed to. 

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the Lords 
to communicate the said Reasons (with the  Bill 
and Amendments) :  And that the Clerk do carry 
the same. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Deputy Speaker adjourned 
the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant  to  the  Order  of  the House  of the 
20th, day  of  August  last,  it  being  then 
seventeen  minutes  after  Three  of  the 
clock  on Tuesday morning, till this day. 

[No,  170.] 

Tuesday, 2nd November  1909. 

The House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

S E V E R A  L  Public Petitions  were presented,, 
k j  and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
Metropolitan  Borough  of  Saint  Marylebone 
under the Shop Hours Act,  1904, and confirmed 
by the Secretary  of  State for the Home Depart-

VOL.   164. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Supple-  T a b l e, 
ment  to 
Fifth  Report. 
Shop  Hours 
Act, 1904. 

ment,  fixing  the  hours  of  closing  for  certain 
classes  of Shops. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Evictions 
Command,—Copy  of  Return  of  the  number of (Ireland.) 
Evictions from Agricultural  Holdings in Ireland 
which  have come to  the  knowledge  of  the Con­
stabulary,  and  also of  the number of  Tenancies 
determined, in the quarter ended 30th September 
1909. 

Ordered, That the said Paper do  lie upon  the 

Table. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's  Colonial 
Command,—Copies  of  Colonial  Reports,  Nos. Reports 
618  (Fiji,  Annual  Report  for  1908)  and  619  ( A n m , a" ) 
(Nyasaland  Protectorate, Report for 1908-9). 

Ordered, That  the  said  Paper do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr. Runeiman presented,—Return to  an Order,  Board  of 
dated  the  17 th  day of  June  last, for  a  Return Education, 
No. 304. 
relative  to the Board  of Education. 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table :  and  be printed. 

Mr. Sydney Buxton presented, pursuant  to the Post  Office 
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of (^oreigii and 
the  Foreign and  Colonial  Parcel  Post  Amend-Parcei Post) 
ment  (No.  30)  Warrant,  1909,  dated  18th 
October  1909. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

The  following  Papers  were  laid  upon  the 

Table  by the Clerk  of the House :— 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  1st  day  of Adjournment 
this  instant  November, for a  Return relative  to 
nncler 
Adjournment  Motions  under  Standing  Order orfer No.  10. 
No.  10. 

N o<  3oi. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  1st  day  of  Public Bills, 

this  instant  November, for a  Return relative to 
Public Bills. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  1st  day  of Public 
this instant  November, for a  Return  relative  to Petitions. 
Public Petitions. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  1st  day  of Select 

this instant  November, for a  Return relative  to Committees. 
Select Committees. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  1st  day  of Standing 
this  instant  November, for a  Return relative  to Committees. 
Standing Committees. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  1st  day  of Sittings  of 

this  instant  November, for a  Return relative  to the House-
Sittings  of the House. 

Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  1st  day  of Business  of the 

this instant  November, for a  Return relative  to House (Days 
Business  of  the  House  (Days  occupied  by Government 
Government and by Private  Members). 

and by Private 
Members.) 

No. 302. 
Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  1st  day  of Private Bills 

this  instant  November,  for  Returns  relative  to ®nd Private 
Private Bills  and Private Business.

Busmess-

Ordered, That the said Returns  be printed. 

Ordered, That there be laid before this House  Closure  of 

a  Return  respecting  application  of  Standing Debate 
Order No. 26 (Closure of Debate) during Session 
1909, (1)  in the House and in Committee  of the 
whole House, under the following heads :— 
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And	  a  Motion being made, and the Question 
being  proposed, That  the  Bill  be now read the 
third time ; 

An  Amendment  was proposed  to  be  made to 
the Question,  by leaving  out  the  word  "now," 
and, at the end of the Question, adding the words 
"upon  this  day  three  months."—(Mr.  Austen 
Chamberlain.)

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 
word "  now "  stand part of the Question :—And 

m  B  a Debate arising thereupon ; 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be now adjourned. 

— (Mr.  Long.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

The  Order of  the  day being  read, for  taking Small 
into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by ^JJS^fo 
the  Lords  to  the  Small  Dwelling-Houses  in Burghsm 
Burghs  Letting  and  Rating  (Scotland)  Bill Letting and 
{changed  from  House  Letting  and  Rating 
(Scotland)  Bill);	 

m\(changed

And a Motion  being  made, and  the Question 

being  proposed, That  the  Lords'  Amendments ltating 
be  now  taken  into  consideration—(The  Lord  (Scotland) 
Advocate); 

BiU>

•Sin 

An  Amendment  was  proposed  to  be  made 
to the Question,  by leaving out the word "now," 
®  B  and,  at  the  end  of  the  Question,  adding  the 
f  S"?  words  "upon  this  day  three  months."—(Mr. 
g s ap 
P3 

Barnes.) 

and (2)  in  the  Standing  Committees  under  the  

following heads:— 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 

word "  now "  stand part  of  the Question : 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Wednesday 
morning; 

Wednesday,  3rd November  1909 : 


And the  Question being put; 


T he  H o u se  divided.  

The Yeas  to the Right; 

The Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain  Norton : 

Tellers for the J Mr.  George Roberts, 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Charles Duncan :  J 

\ 

77. 

J 
\ 

20. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And  the Main  Question being put; 
Ordered,  That  the  Lords'  Amendments  be 

now taken into consideration. 

The House accordingly proceeded to take the 

said Amendments into consideration. 

The  Lords'  Amendments,  as  far  as  the 
(in  continuation  of  Parliamentary  Paper, 
No.  361  of  Session  1908).  —  (The  Deputy  Amendment  in  p.  1,1.  17,  being  read  a second 
Chairman.) 

time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  1,  leave  out 
Stage  Plays 
Mr. Herbert  Samuel reported  from the  Select Is. 17,  18, and  19, and  insert ("and  in  the  case 
(Censorship.)  Committee  appointed  to join with  a Committee  of  burghs  with  a  population  of  five  hundred 
of the House  of  Lords  on  Stage Plays (Censor­
thousand  or  upwards  means  a  dwelling-house 
ship) ;  That  they  had  considered  the  matters  entered  in  the  valuation  roll  at  a  yearly  rent 
to  them  referred, and  directed  him  to  make  a  or  value  of  twenty  pounds  or  under"),  the 
Report  thereof  to  the  House,  together  with  next Amendment, being read a second lime, was 
the  Minutes  of  Evidence  taken  before  them,  amended,  by  leaving  out  the  words  "five 
and Appendices. 
hundred," and inserting the word " fifty," instead 
Ordered, That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  thereof;  and by leaving out the word "  twenty," 
and  inserting  the  words  "  twenty-one " —  (The 
Lord Advocate),—instead thereof. 

Table;  and be printed. 

No. 303. 

Motor  Cars 
Mr.  Burns, supported  by  Mr.  Herbert  Lewis, 
(international  presented a Bill  to enable Orders  in Council  to  agreed to. 
Circulation) 

t i , e   p U r p 0 s e   o f	  g i v i ng  effect   to  a ny 

m a ( ] e   f o  r  

And the Lords' Amendment,  so amended, was 

Bill 362  Convention  for  facilitating  the  International 
Circulation  of  Motor Cars:  And  the  same was 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time  to-morrow; 
and to be printed. 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  put, That  this  House  doth  disagree  with 
The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the the Lords  in  the  said  Amendment—(The  Lord 

Finance Bin. 

Third  Reading  of the Finance  Bill; 

Advocate)  ; 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  1,  1.  21,  leave 
out ( "  a parish council "),  the  next Amendment, 
being read a second time; 

	
	
 
	


170.]  9  E D W.   Y I I. 

2nd—3rd November. 

The  House  divided.  


The  Yeas  to  the  Right  ;  


The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 

o

3

The Noes  to the Left. 

Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

) 
j
Tellers for the ( Sir Frederick Banbury, ) 
j 

( Captain Norton : 

(Mr.  Younger: 

Noes, 

Yeas, 

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the j Mr.  Henry  Forster,  


Noes, 

( Lord Balcarres : 


74. 

13. 

5 25 


70. 

13. 

So it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 
The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 1,1.  22,  after 
{ "  assessment"),  insert ("  except a  parish  coun­
cil"),  the  next Amendment, being read a second 
time, was disagreed to. 

Then the subsequent  Lords' Amendments,  as 
far  as the Amendment  in p. 4,1.  7, being read  a 
second time, were agreed to. 

The Lords' Amendment in p. 4,1.  7, leave out 

Clauses  12  to  17,  and  insert  Clause  A  (Pro­
visions as to rating), the next Amendment, being 
read  a  second  time,  was  amended,  in  1.  5,  by 
leaving  out from  the  word "  that "  to  the word 
"  where,"  in  1. 15, and inserting the words— 

"  (a)  The  provisions  of  sections  three  hun­

dred and forty-five and three hundred  and 
forty-six  of  the  Burgh  Police  (Scotland) 
Act,  1892, shall  apply  to  every assessment 
leviable within any such burgh by any assess­
ing  authority  other than a  town council  in 
respect of  the occupancy  of small  dwelling-
houses, with the substitution  of  such assess­
ment  and  authority  for  the  burgh  general 
assessment  and  the  town  council,  respec­
tively ; 

(b)  Section  three  hundred  and  forty-five  of 
the Burgh  Police  (Scotland)  Act,  1892,  as 
applying  or  applied  (whether  under  the 
existing  law  or  under  the  immediately 
preceding  provision)  within  every  burgh 
which  at  the  date  of  the  census  of  1901 
contained  within  the  police  boundaries 
thereof  a  population  of  fifty  thousand  or 
upwards,  and  within  any  other  burgh  in 
which  this  Act  is  in  operation,  and  the 
town  council  of  which  by  resolution  so 
decides, shall  be deemed  to incorporate the 
following provisions  (that  is to say) " — 

instead  thereof;  in  1.  17,  after  "  1909,"  by in­
serting  the  words  "(hereinafter  referred  to  as 
small  dwelling-houses) ;"  in  1. 21, by leaving out 
the  words  "  this  section,"  and  inserting  the 
words "  section  three  hundred and  forty-five of 
the Burgh Police (Scotland)  Act, 1892," instead 
thereof;  in  1.  28,  by leaving out  the words "  as 
amended  by  any  subsequent  Act;"  in  1. 32, by 
leaving  out  the  words  "exceeds  four  pounds, 
but;"  in  1. 33,  by leaving  out  the words "  seven 
and  one-half,"  and  inserting  the  word  "ten," 
instead thereof ;  in 1.35, by leaving out the word 
"  five,"  and inserting the words "  seven and one-
half," instead  thereof;  and  in  1. 58,  at  the end, 
by  inserting  the  words  "  but  such  assessments 
shall  only  be recoverable  by  such owners from 
the  occupiers  along  with  payments  of  rent,  as 
such  payments  are  fixed  by  the  terms  of  let, 
and  shall  be  paid  by  the  occupiers  only  in 
amounts  proportionate  to  the  period  for which 
rent is paid."—(The Lord Advocate.) 

And the Lords'  Amendment, so amended, was 

agreed to. 

A  consequential  Amendment was proposed  to 
be  made to the Bill,  by inserting, after the new 
Clause  A  inserted  by the  Lords,  a new Clause 
(Constructive  payment  of  assessments).—(The 
Lord  Advocate.) 

And a Motion  being  made, and  the Question 
being  put,  That  the  Clause  be  read  a second 
time ; 

VOL.   164. 

So it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative.  

And the Clause was inserted  in the Bill. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p.  7,  1. 15,  at the 

end, insert  new Clause  B (Saving  for Removal 

Terms (Scotland) Acts, 49 & 50 Vict. c. 50,  53 & 

54 Vict.  c. 36), the next Amendment, being read 

a second time,  was agreed to. 


Then  the  remaining  Lords'  Amendment,  in 
p.  7,  1.  15,  at  the  end,  insert  new  Clause  C  

(Saving  section  72  of  Waterworks Clauses  Act,  

1847), being read  a second  time, was  disagreed  

to. 


Ordered,  That  a  Committee  be appointed  to 
draw  up  Reasons  to be assigned  to  the  Lords 
for  disagreeing  to certain  of  the  Amendments 
made by their Lordships  to the Bill. 

And a Committee was nominated  of the Lord 
Advocate,  Mr.  Clyde,  Mr.  Cross,  Mr.  Scott 
Dickson, and Mr.  Solicitor General for Scotland. 
Ordered,  That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 
Committee :  And  they  are  to  withdraw  imme­
diately.—(The  Lord  Advocate.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assurance 
Second  Reading  of  the  Assurance  Companies BiiTfS^ 1 
Bill [Lords]; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Education 

Committee  on  the  Education  ( Administrative 
Provisions)  Bill  [Lords']  ; 

Provisions) 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day,Bin 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

The  House, according  to Order, resolved itself Summary 
into a Committee  on  the  Summary Jurisdiction j^1!?0*!?11 
(Scotland) Act,  1908, Amendment Bill  [Lords].  Act°i908 

, , 

, T  
\ 
(In the Committee.) 

r, 

Amendment 
Bill [lords.] 

Clauses No.  1 and No.  2 agreed to. 
Bill to  be reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair ;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  gone  through  the  Bill, 
and  directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be now read the third 
time :—The  Bill was accordingly read the  third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the  Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this House 
hath agreed to the same, without Amendment. 

The Order of  the  day  being read, for  taking Electric 
into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by fighting A«ts 
the  Lords  to  the  Amendments  made  by  this 
House  to  the  Electric  Lighting  Acts  (Amend­
ment) Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Ordered, That the said Amendments  be taken 

into consideration this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring Laws 

Committee  on  the Expiring  Laws Continuance Continuance 
Bill; 

'  .  . . 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into the said Committee. 

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526 

2nd-—3rd

November. 

1 9 0 9. 

[NO. 171. 

Cinemato-
graph  Bill. 

The  Order  of  the clay being  read, for  taking 
into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by 
the Lords  to the Cinematograph  Bill; 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 


Table;  and be printed. 


Ordered, That the  said Amendments  be taken 

The following  Paper was laid upon the Table Closure  of 

into consideration this day. 

County 
Councils 
Mortgages 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Second Beading  of  the  County  Councils Mort-
gages Bill; 

v . 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

by the Clerk of the House:—Return  to an Order,  Debate 
dated ,the  2nd  day of this instant November,  for 
Returns relative  to Closure  of Debate (Standing 
Order No. 26). 

No® 26.) 
JQQ 
' 

Ordered, That the said Return  be printed. 

this day. 

The  Lord  Advocate reported from  the  Com­
Small 
mittee  appointed  to  draw  up  Reasons  to  be 
Dwelling-
Houses in 
assigned  to the  Lords for disagreeing to certain 
Burghs 
Letting and  of the Amendments made  by their  Lordships  to 
the Small Dwelling-Houses  in  Burghs  Letting 
Rating 
(Scotland) 
and  Rating  (Scotland)  Bill;  That  they  had 
Bill. 
drawn  up  a  Reason  accordingly,  which  they 
directed  him  to  report  to  the  House;  and the 
same was read,  as followeth : 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  1,  1. 21,  and in p.  1, 
1. 22, and to the new Clauses,  for the  following 
Reason: —  Because  if  the  arrangements . for 
the  collection  of  municipal  rates  proposed  in 
Clause 12,  as amended by the Lords, are required 
for  the  purpose  of  facilitating the object  of the 
Bill, viz., the creation  of a system  of  short lets, 
similar  arrangements  are  equally  necessary for 
the collection  of poor rates,  education rates, and 
other rates levied  by parish councils, and for the 
collection  of water rates. 

The  said  Reason,  being read  a  second  time, 

was agreed to. 

Ordered, That a Message  be sent to the Lords 
to communicate  the  said  Reason (with the  Bill 
and Amendments) : And that, the Clerk do carry 
the same.—(The  Lord  Advocate.) 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House without Question put, pursuant to 
the Order  of  the  House  of  the 20th day 
of August last, it being then two minutes 
after  One  of  the  clock  on  Wednesday 
morning, till this day. 

[No.  171.] 

Wednesday, 3rd November 1909. 

The House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three  of  the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Robert 

Gordon's  ROBERT  Gordon's  Technical  College  and 

Aberdeen  Endowments  Trust  Order  Con-

firmation  Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read 
the third time and passed. 


Ordered, That the Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Technical 
College and 
Aberdeen 
Endowments 

Trust Order 
Confirmation 
Fiil]. 

Ordered, That there be laid before this  House Small 
a  Copy  of  Clause  12  of  the Small  Dwelling- ^lUng-
Housesin Burghs Letting and Rating (Scotland) Burghs "1 
Bill, showing the effect of the Commons' Amend- Letting and 
ments to  that Clause, and  Copy  of  new  Clause JLatin,g 
(Constructive  payment  of  assessments).—(The 
Lord Advocate.) 

an  } 
j^o. 30^ 

The  Lord  Advocate  accordingly  presented 

the said Paper. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That  the Amendment  made  by the Health  Resorts 
Lords to the Health Resorts and Watering Places and Watering 
(Ireland) Bill  be how taken into consideration. 
(Ireland) Bill 

The House accordingly proceeded  to take the 
said  Amendment  into  consideration;  and  the 
same was t wice read, and agreed to. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 
the Lords;  and acquaint  them  that  this House 
hath  agreed  to  the Amendment  made  by their 
Lordships. 

Mr.  Staveley-Hill,  supported  by  Viscount Merchandise 
Morpeth,  Sir  Francis  Lowe,  Mr.  Evelyn  Cecil,  Marks Bill. 
Mr.  Parkes,  and  Mr.  Middlemore, presented  a  B i ll   353. 
Bill  to  amend  the  Merchandise  Marks  Act, 
1887:  And  the same was ordered  to  be  read  a 
second  time  upon  Friday  next ;  and  to  be 
printed. 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming Finance Bill, 

the adjourned Debate  on the Amendment  which, 
upon  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  November, 
was proposed  to  be  made to the Question, That 
the Finance Bill  be now  read the third time ; 

Which Amendment was, to leave out the word 
"  now,"  and  at the end  of  the Question  to  add 
the words "  upon this day three months "—(Mr. 
Austen Chamberlain); 

And the Question being again proposed, That 
the  word "  now "  stand part of  the Question :— 
The House resumed the said adjourned Debate. 
Ordered, That  the  Debate  be  now adjourned. 

—(Mr.  Frederick Edwin Smith.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assurance 

Second  Reading  of  the  Assurance  Companies 2?,1??iVnief 
Bill  [Lords]  ; 

Bill {Lords.J 

Several  Public  Petitions  were presented, and 

read ;  and ordered to lie upon the Table. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Supple­
ment to 
Fifth Report. 
Treaty  Series 
Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
(No. 25,1909.) H i  s  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Exchange 

of  Notes  between  the  United  Kingdom  and 
Germany.  Mutual  Protection  of  British  and 
German Trade  Marks  in  Corea, 31st August— 
8th October 1909. 

Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Finance  Bill 
Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return to an Order, 
(Charges on  dated  the 21st day  of  October last, for Returns 
Property.) 
relative  to  the  Finance  Bill  (Charges  on 
Property). 

No. 305. 

#  . 

And a Motion  being made, and  the Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a 
second time; 

An  Amendment  was  proposed to  be made to 
the  Question,  by  leaving  out  from  the  word 
"  That "  to the end  of  the Question, and adding 
the words "  this House declines  to proceed with 
the  Second  Reading  of  this  Bill  until a  Royal 
or  other  Commission  has  inquired  into  and 
reported  upon  the whole  of  the  facts  relating 
to the working of industrial assurance companies 
and  societies " — (Mr.  Keir  Hardie),  — instead 
thereof. 

And  the  Question  being  proposed, That  the 
words  proposed  to  be  left  out stand part  of  the 
Question  :—And  a Debate arising thereupon ; 

No. 171.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

3rd—4th November. 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after Twelve of the clock on Thursday morning ; 

Thursday, 4th November 1909 : 

And  a Motion  being made, and  the Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Debate  be  now 
adjourned—(Mr.  Mooney)  :—The  said  Motion 
was, with leave  of the House, withdrawn. 

And the Question being  again proposed, That 

the words  proposed  to  be left out stand  part  of 
the Question:—The  said  proposed Amendment 
was, with leave of the House, withdrawn. 
And the Main Question being put; 
Ordered, That the Bill  be  now read  a second 
time :—The Bill was  accordingly read  a  second 
time. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House  for  Tuesday 
the  23rd  day  of  this  instant  November.—(Mr. 
Joseph Pease.) 

v> 
The House, according to Order, resolved itself 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Education  (Adminis­
trative Provisions)  Bill [Lords]. 

(In the Committee.) 

Clauses No.  1 to No. 7 agreed to. 

Bill  to be reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy Chairman reported, That the Committee 
had gone through  the Bill, and  directed  him  to 
report the same, without Amendment. 

Ordered,  That the Bill  be now read the  third 
time:—The  Bill was  accordingly  read  the third 
time and passed. 

The Order  of  the day being  read, for  taking Cinemato­
into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by  &raPh BiiI­
the Lords to the Cinematograph  Bill ; 

Ordered, That the said Amendments  be taken 

into consideration  this day. 

The  County  Councils  Mortgages  Bill  w a s,  County 

according  to Order, read a second time. 

Councils 
Mortgages 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a  Bill. 

Committee  of  the whole House  for  this day. 
(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the  

House without Question put, pursuant  to  

the  Order of  the House  of  the  20th day 

of  August  last,  it  being  then One  of  the  

clock  on  Thursday morning, till  this day. 


.  [No.  172.] 

Thursday,  ^th November 1909. 

The House met  at a quarter of  an hour 

before Three  of the clock. 


P R A T E R S. 

SE V E R AL  Public  Petitions were presented, Public 

and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the Petitions. 

Table 
A  a u l e  ­  

V l de  SuPPle" 
ment  to 

.  . 

.  Fifth  Report. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward Grey  presented,  by His  china 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Correspondence (No. 2,1909.) 
relative  to the  International Opium Commission 
at  Shanghae,  1909. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Education 
(Adminis­
trative 
Provisions) 
Bill  [Lords.] 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do  carry the Bill to 
the Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this House 
hath agreed to the same, without Amendment. 

Trustees'
Accounts Bill.  Third  Reading  of  the  Trustees'  Accounts  B i l l; 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read the third time 

this day. 

The  House, according to Order, proceeded  to 
Electric 
Lighting  Acts  take into  consideration  the  Amendments  made 
(Amendment)  by  the Lords  to  the  Amendments made  by this 
Bill [Lords.] 
House  to the  Electric  Lighting  Acts  (Amend­
ment)  Bill  [Lords];  and  the  same  were  twice 
read, and agreed to. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the  Bill  to 
the Lords ;  and acquaint  them  that this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the Amendments made  by their 
Lordships. 

Coal  Mines 
Regulation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines Regulation 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a  second  time 
upon  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant 
November. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Motor  Cars 
(International  Second  Reading  of  the  Motor  Cars  (Inter-
Circulation)  national Circulation)  Bill; 
Bill. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be read  a second time 

this day. 

Expiring Laws  The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Continuance  Committee  on  the  Expiring  Laws  Continuance 
M L 

Bill; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself into  the said Committee. 

VOL.  164. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,—Return  to 
an  Order,  dated  the  1st  day  of  this  instant 
November, for a  Return relative  to  the  Private 
Legislation Procedure (Scotland) Act,  1899. 

Private 
Legislation 
Procedure 
(Scotland) 
Act,  1899. 

N o.  3 0 8. 

The  Lord  Advocate  also  presented, pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— 
Copy  of  amending  General  Orders  for  the 
regulation  of  Proceedings  under  and  in  pur­
suance  of  the  Private  Legislation  Procedure 
(Scotland) Act,  1899. 

Private 
Legislation 
Procedure 
(Scotland) 
Act,  1899. 

N o.  3 0 9. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Superannua­
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of tion Aci> 1884> 
Treasury Minute under the Superannuation Act, 
1884,  dated  2nd  November  1909, declaring that 
George  Upshire,  Lad,  Royal  Gun  Factory, 
War  Office,  was  appointed  without  a  Civil 
Service Certificate  through inadvertence  on the 
part of the head  of his Department. 

Ordered, That the said  Paper do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill presented,—Return  to an Order, Gas Under-

dated  the  16th  day  of  June  last, for  a  Return firings, 
relative  to Gas Undertakings. 

310. 
Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  16th  day  of Gas  (Tnder-

June  last, for a  Return relative  to  Gas  Under- takings 
takings (Local Authorities). 

Authorities.) 

Ordered, That the said Returns do lie upon the  No. 311. 

Table;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented, pursuant  Shop  Hours 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— Act. I90t, 
Copies  of  Orders made  by the  Councils  of  the 
Boroughs  of  Eastbourne  and  Plymouth  under 

3 x4 

 
528 	

4th—5th November. 

1909. 

[No. 172„ 

the  Shop  Hours  Act,  1904,  and  confirmed  hy 
the  Secretary  of  State  for  the  Home  Depart­
ment,  fixing  the - hours  of  closing  for  certain 
classes  of  Shops. 

Ordered, That the  said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read the third time 
upon  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant 
November. 

The  Motor  Cars  (International  Circulation)  Motor Cars 
Bill  was,  according  to  Order,  read  a  second ^"ulafionf1 
time. 

Bill. 

The following  Paper was laid  upon the Table 
by the  Clerk  of  the  House :—Further  Return 
to  an  Order, dated  the 26th  day  of  July  1905, 
for a  Return relative  to  Inquiry into  Charities 
(County  of Devon). 

Ordered, That the  said Return  be printed. 

Ordered, That there be laid before this House 
a Return showing the total quantities  of Whisky 
in Bond (distinguishing the quantities in general 
warehouses  from  the  quantities  in  distillers' 
warehouses) in each Excise Collection in Scotland 
on the 31st day of January 1909, and on the 31st 
day  of  October  1909 (in continuation  of  Parlia­
mentary Paper,  No.  69  of  Session  1902).—(Sir 
John  Dewar.*) 

The Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned Debate on the Amendment which, 
upon  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  November, 
was proposed  to  be  made to the Question, That 
the Finance Bill  be now read the third time ; 

Which  Amendment  was,  to  leave  out  the 
word  "  now,"  and at the end of the Question  to 
add the words  "  upon this day  three months " — 
(Mr, Austen  Chamberlain)  ; 

And the Question being again  proposed, That 

the word "  now "  stand part of  the Question :— 
The House resumed the said adjourned  Debate. 

And the Question being put; 
The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for thefMr.  Joseph  Pease, 
1 Captain Norton : 

.  (Sir Alexander  Acland-


_  „ 
Tellers for the)  H o o d^ 

Yeas, 
„ 

i

_„
379. 

149. 

Noes, 

[Viscount  Valentia: 

J 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
And the Main  Question being  put; 
Ordered, That tbe Bill  be now read  the  third 
time:—The  Bill was  accordingly read  the third 
time and passed. 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry the Bill  to 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

Inquiry  into 
Charities 
(County  of 
Devon.) 

N o.  3 1 2.  	

6 

Whisky  in 
Bond 
(Scotland.) 

Finance  Bill. 

Irish  Land 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the  day being  read, for taking 
into consideration the Amendments made by the 
Lords  to the Irish  Land  Bill; 

Ordered, That  the said Amendments  be taken 

into consideration to-morrow. 

Table. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House for to-morrow. 
—(Mr. Joseph Pease.) 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Expiring Laws. 

Committee  on  the  Expiring  Laws Continuance Continuance 
Bill; 

B,U-

V 

Resolved, That this House will, upon Tuesday 
the 23rd day  of  this  instant  November, resolve 
itself  into the said Committee. 

The House, according  to Order, proceeded  to Cinemato­
take  into  consideration  the  A.mendments  made sraPh Blll> 
by.  the  Lords  to  the Cinematograph Bill;  and 
the same were twice read, and agreed to. 

Ordered, That the Clerk  do  carry the Bill  to 
the Lords ;  and acquaint them  that  this House 
hath agreed to the Amendments  made  by their 
Lordships. 

The House, according to  Order, resolved  itself  County 
into a Committee on  the  County  Councils  Mort-  Councils 

_ 

-r,.,,  
gages Bill.	 

J 

Mortgages 
Bill. 

(In  the Committee.)  


Clause No.  1 amended, and agreed to. 

Clause No. 2 agreed to. 

Bill,  as amended, to  be reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair  ;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had gone  through  the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Committee,  be  taken  into  consideration  to­
morrow. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House without  Question put, pursuant to 

the  Order  of  the House  of the 20th day  

of August last, it being then seven minutes 

before Twelve of the clock, till to-morrow. 

[No.  173.] 

Friday,  5th November 1909. 

The  House met  at Twelve  of  the clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

SEVERAL  Public  Petitions were  presented, 

and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 

Places  of
^Enfranchise
ment)a(No.S2)  (Enfranchisement)  (No.  2)  Bill; 
BiH-

  S e c o nd

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 
upon  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant 
November. 

Mr.  liirrell presented, by His Majesty's Com-
mand,—Copy  of  Return  of  Proceedings  of  the 
Irish  Land  Commission  under  the  Land  Law 
Acts,  the  Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts,  1883-91, 
and the Land  Purchase Acts,  during  the month 
of  August 1909. 

Bishopric of 
Sheffield Bill. 

The Order  of the day  being  read,  for  taking 
into consideration the Bishopric  of  Sheffield Bill, 
as amended  in the Standing  Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­
sideration  upon  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this 
instant November. 

Trustees'
Accounts Bill.

The Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 

  Third  Reading  of  the  Trustees'  Accounts  B i l l; 

Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions of several Acts  of Parliament,—Copies 
of  Four Orders in Council, dated 2nd November 
1909, for holding Winter Assizes  in Ireland. 

Winter 
Assizes 
(Ireland.) 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return  to  an Order, Taxes and 

dated  the  18th  day  of  May last, for  a  Return Imposts, 
relative  to Taxes and Imposts. 

No. 313» 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Supple­
ment  to 
Fifth  Report, 
Irish  Land 
Commission 
(Proceedings.> 

 
 
 


N o.

 M ] 

9  E D W.   V I I. 

5th November. 

Ordered, That the said Return  do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Resolved,  That  this  House,  at  its  rising  this  Adjournment, 

day,  do  adjourn  till  Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of 
this instant November.—(The  Prime  Minister.) 

Poor Laws and 
Belie! of 
Distress 
(Boyal 
Commission.) 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  by  His 
Majesty's  Command,—Copies  of Appendices  to 
the  Report  of  the  Royal  Commission  on  the 
Poor Laws and Relief'of Distress.  Vol. X X V I I ., 
Replies  by  Distress  Committees  to  Questions 
circulated  on  the  subject  of  the  Unemployed 
Workmen  Act,  1905.  Vol.  X X X V .  ,  Index  to 
the Report  on England and Wales. 

Ordered,  That  the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

A  Motion was made,  and  the  Question  being Irish Land 
put,  That  the  Question  of  agreement  or  dis- federation 
agreement with the  -boras  Amendments  to  the af Lords' 
Irish  Land  Bill  be  put  with  respect  to  the Amendments.) 
Amendments  as a whole—(Mr,  Birrell)  ; 

The House divided. 

The  Yeas  to the Right ; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers  for the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

222. 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this 
House  a  Return  showing  (1)  the  distribution 
out of  the Local  Taxation  Account  for the year 
ended the 31st day  of  March  1909 of— 

Tellers for the j  Viscount  Valentia, 
( Mr.  Henry  Forster: 

Noes, 

1 
j 

° 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being read, for taking Irish Land 

into consideration the  Amendments made by the Bl11­
Lords  to the Irish Land  Bill; 

Local 
Taxation 
Account, 
1908-9, and 
Local 
Taxation 
Licences. 

N o.  314. 

Local 
Taxation 
Licences, 
1908-9. 

N o.  315. 

Financial 
Statement, 
1909-10 
(Revised 
Estimated 
Yield of 
proposed 
Taxation.) 

N o.  316. 

(a)  the  equivalent	  of  the  Duties  on  Local 
Taxation Licences, the Estate Duty  Grant, 
and  the  Local  Taxation  (Customs  and 
Excise) Duties;  and 

(b)  the  Grant  of  £40,000  referred  to  in 
Section 6 (3)  of  the Finance Act,  190'8; 
and  (2)  the  proceeds  of  the  Duties  on  Local 
Taxation  Licences  to  which  Section  6  of  the 
Finance Act,  1908, applies, collected  during  the 
quarter  ended  the  31st  day  of  March  1909, 
together with  the penalties  received and  repay­
ments  made  in  respect  of  such  Duties  during 
the same period. 
(The' Local  Government Act, 
1888 ;  the  Finance  Acts,  1894,  1907, and  1908 ; 
the  Local  Taxation (Customs and  Excise) Act, 
1890;  and  the  Order  in  Council,  dated  19th 
October  1908.)—(Mr.  Burns.) 

Mr.  Burns  accordingly  presented  the  said 

Paper. 

Ordered, That  the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table  ;  and  be printed. 

Ordered,  That  there  be  laid  before  this 
House  a  Return  showing,  in  respect  of  each 
Administrative  County and County  Borough in 
England and Wales, (1) the amounts collected by 
the Commissioners  of Inland Revenue during the 
year ended the 31st day of March 1909  in respect 
of  the  Duties  on  Local  Taxation  Licences; 
(2)  the  amounts  collected  by  the  Postmaster 
General  during  the  three  months  ended  the 
31st  day of March  1909  in respect  of  the Duties 
on  the  Licences  to  which  Section  6  of  the 
Finance  Act,  1908,  applies;  (3)  the  amount 
of the penalties and forfeitures recovered  during 
the year in respect  of  Local  Taxation  Licences ; 
and (4) the amount received  during the year  for 
other  Duties  and  payments  which  are  directed 
to  be  dealt with  in  the same  manner  as  Local 
Taxation  Licences.—(Mr.  Burns.) 

Mr.  Burns  accordingly  presented  the  said 

Paper. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and be printed. 

Ordered,  That there be laid  before this House 
a  Copy  of  Revised  Statement  showing  the 
estimated  Yield  in  the  years  1909-10  and 
1910-11, and ultimately, of the new and increased 
Taxation  proposed  by  the  Chancellor  of  the 
Exchequer  in  his  Budget  Speech  on  Thursday 
the 29th April  1909— (Mr.  Hobhouse.) 

Mr.  Hobhouse accordingly presented  the  said 

Paper. 

The  House  proceeded  to  take  the  said 

Amendments into consideration. 

The Lords'  Amendments being read a  second 

time ; 

And  a  Motion  being made, and the Question 
being put, That  this House  doth  disagree  with 
the  Lords  in  the  said  Amendments —  (Mr. 
Birrell); 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the ( Viscount  Valentia, 

219 

54. 

Noes, 

|  Mr.  Henry  Forster : 
So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Ordered, That  a  Committee  be  appointed  to 
draw up Reasons  to  be assigned  to the Lords for 
disagreeing  to certain  of the Amendments made 
by their Lordships to the  Bill. 

And  a  Committee  was  nominated  of  Mr. 
Attorney  General  for  Ireland,  Mr.  Birrell, Sir 
Joseph  Leese,  Mr.  Long,  and  Mr.  Solicitor 
General for Ireland. 

Ordered,  That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee :  And  they  are  to  withdraw  imme­
diately.—(Mr.  Attorney  General for Ireland.) 

The Order  of  the day being  read, for taking Development 

into consideration the Amendments made by the ®nd Boad 
Lords  to  the  Development  and Road Improve- FundsVBiU?n 
ment Funds  Bill; 

Ordered, That the said  Amendments be taken 
into consideration upon Tuesday the 23rd day of 
this instant November. 

The House, according  to  Order, resolved itself Motor Cars 

into  a  Committee  on  the  Motor  Cars  (Inter-
national Circulation) Bill. 

Circulation) 
Bill. 

(In  the Committee.) 

Clauses No.  1 and No.  2 agreed to. 
Bill  to be reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Deputy Chairman reported, That the Committee 
had  gone through  the  Bill,  and  directed him to 
report the same, without Amendment. 

Ordered, That  the  Bill  be now read  the third 
time:—The  Bill was accordingly read  the  third 
time and passed. 

Ordered,  That the  said Paper  do lie  upon the 

Ordered, That  the Clerk  do carry  the Bill to 

Table ;  and be printed. 

VOL.  164. 

the Lords, and desire their concurrence. 

3  Y 

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[No. 174. 

County
Councils
Bill.

The House, according  to  Order, proceeded to 
take  into  consideration  the  County  Councils 
Mortgages Bill,  as amended in the Committee. 

Ordered, That the Bill  be now read  the third 
time :—The Bill was accordingly read  the third 
time and passed. 

Irish Land
BlU*

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and  desire  their  concurrence. 

Mr.  Attorney  General  for  Ireland  reported 
from  the  Committee  appointed  to  draw  up 
Reasons  to  be  assigned  to  the  Lords  for  dis­
agreeing  to certain of the Amendments made by 
their  Lordships  to  the  Irish  Land  Bill;  That 
they had drawn  up a Reason accordingly,  which 
they directed him to report  to  the  House;  and 
the same was read,  as followeth : 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendments 
made  by the Lords for the following Reason  :— 
Because the Amendments are  of  such  a  nature, 
both  in  omissions  from  the  Bill  as  it  left  the 
Commons  and  in  additions  thereto,  as  to alter 
completely the character  of the measure. 

The  said  Reason,  being  read  a second time, 

was agreed to. 

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the Lords 
to communicate the said  Reason  (with  the  Bill 
and Amendments):  And that the Clerk do carry 
the same. 

Whereupon  Mr.  Speaker  adjourned  the 
House  without Question put,  pursuant to 
the  Order  of  the  House  of  the  20tli  day 
of August last, it being then twenty-eight 
minutes  before  Six  of  the  clock,  till 
Tuesday  the  23rd  day  of  this  instant 
November. 

[No.  174.] 

Tuesday, 23rd November 1909. 
The House met  at a quarter  of  an hour 
before Three  of the clock. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide Supple­
ment to 
Fifth  Report. 

Parliamentary 
Papers 
(Recess.) 

P  R A  r  E  R s. 

Q E V E R AL  Public  Petitions  were  presented, 
v>  and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the 
Table. 

The  following  Papers,  presented  by  His 
Majesty's  Command  during  the  Recess,  were 
delivered  to  the  Librarian  of  the  House  of 
Commons  during  the  Recess,  pursuant  to the 
Standing Order  of the  14th August  1896 :— 

Annual  Series, Nos. 4377  to 4381. 

Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, 

Trade Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 
Treaty  Series 
Copy  of  additional  Articles  to the Agreement 
(No.  26,1909.)  between  the  United Kingdom  and Portugal,  of 
17th  January  1883, for the exchange  of  Money 
Orders.  Signed  at  Lisbon,  13th  September 
1909. 

Treaty Series 
(No. 27, 1909.) Kingdo m  and  Norway,  renewing  for a further 

Copy  of  Convention  between  the  United 

period of five years  the  Arbitration Convention 
of  Uth  August  1904.  Signed  at  London, 9th 
November 1909. 

Copy  of Notes exchanged between the United 
Kingdom  and  Belgium,  Italy,  Portugal,  and 
Spain,  respecting  protection  of  Patents  in 
Morocco.  February  to December  1907. 

Copies  of  Colonial Reports,  No.  620 (Barba­
dos, Report for 1908-9),  No.  621  (Trinidad and 
Tobago,  Report  for  1908-9),  No.  622  (Straits 
Settlements,  Annual  Report for 1908),  No.  623 
(Somaliland  Protectorate,  Report for 1908-9). 

Treaty  Series 
(No.  30, 1909.) 

Colonial 
Beports 
(Annual.) 

Copy  of  Report  of  the  Conference  with  Re­
presentatives  of  the  self-governing  Dominions 
on  the  Naval  and  Military  Defence  of  the 
Empire. 

Imperial 
Conference. 

Copy  of  the  Report  of  the  Army  Medical 

Department for the  year 1908. 

Copy of  Statistical  Tables  and  Charts  relating 
to  British  and  Foreign  Trade  and  Industry 
(1854  to  1908). 

Army 
(Medical
Department.) 
British and 
Foreign  Trade 
and Industry, 

Copy  of  Report  by  the  Local  Government 
Board  for  Scotland  as  to  the  Proceedings  of 
Distress Committees  in  Scotland, for  the  year 
ended  15th May  1909. 

On employed 
Workmen 
Act,  1905. 

Copy  of  Memorandum  on  some  of  the results 
of  Indian  Administration  during  the  past  fifty 
years  of British rule  in India. 

Copy  of  Thirty-eighth  Annual Report  of  the 
Local Government Board, 1908-9.  Supplement 
in  continuation  of  the  Report  of  the  Medical 
Officer  for  1908-9  on  the  nature,  uses,  and 
manufacture  of  Ferro -  Silicon,  with  special 
reference  to  possible  danger  arising  from  its 
transport and storage. 

East Xudia 
(Fifty Years' 
Adminis­
tration.) 
Local 
Government 
Board. 

Copy  of Return  of  Proceedings  of  the  Irish 
Land  Commission  under  the  Land  Law  Acts, 
the  Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts,  and  the  Land 
Purchase  Acts,  during the month  of  September 
1909. 

Irish Land 
Commission 
(Proceedings.) 

Copy  of  Index 

to  Estates  comprised 

in Irish Land 

Returns  of  Advances  made  under  the  Irish Commission. 
Land  Act,  1903,  during  the  year  ended  31st 
December  1908. 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone presented,  pursuant Polling 
to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—  Districts 
Copy  of  Orders  made  by  the  Council  of  the  ^ a ^ r .  ) 
County  of  Lancaster,  redividing  the Middleton 
and  fieywood  Parliamentary  Divisions  into 
Polling Districts. 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the Polling 
County  of  Northumberland,  altering  certain Districts 
Polling Districts  in the Wansbeck Parliamentary ^thumber-
Division. 

land.) 

Copy  of  Order  made  by the  Council  of  the Polling 
County  of  Durham,  altering  certain  Polling Districts 
Districts  in  the  Mid-Parliamentary  Division  of 
°f 
the county. 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie  upon the 

Table. 

The Lord Advocate presented,—Return to  an p0or Law 

Order,  dated  the  28th  day  of  July  last,  for  a Medical 
Return  relative  to  Poor  Law  Medical  Officers 2,®c®rs  , . 
(Scotland.) 
. 
N o  317_ 
(Scotland).  

Ordered, That the said Return do lie upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Copy  of  Accession  of  Persia  to  the  Inter­

Treaty Series 
(No. 28,1909.) n a ti o n ai  Agreement  of  9th  December  1907, 
respecting  the  creation  of  an  International 
Office of Public Health. 

Seat29S]909
( 

1 

'

o f  ^ o t e  s  exchanged between the United 
  Kingdom  and  Russia,  respecting  protection  of 
Trade  Marks  and  Patents  in  Morocco.  Feb­
ruary  1907  to October 1908. 

Secretary Sir  Edward Grey  presented,  by  His  Trade Reports 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic and  (Annual 
Consular Reports, Annual  Series,  No. 4383. 

enes-) 

Copy  of  Convention  between 

the  United  Treaty Series 

Kingdom  and  Sweden,  renewing  for  a further C1*0-1909.) 
period  of five years  the Arbitration  Convention 
of  11th  August  1904.  Signed  at  London, 
9th November 1909. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
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23rd  November* 

581 

Copy  of  Exchange  of  Notes  between 

the 
Treaty Series 
(No. 32,1909.)  United  Kingdom  and  Portugal,  renewing  for  a 
further  period  of  five  years  the  Arbitration 
Agreement  signed  at Windsor,  16th  November 
1904.  16th  November  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Birrell  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 
Evicted 
Command,—Copy  of  Return  giving  particulars 
Tenants 
(Ireland)  Act,  of  cases  in  which  persons  had  been  reinstated 
1907. 
with the assistance of the Estates Commissioners 
during the quarter ended 30th June  1909. 

Public Health  Mr.  Birrell  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
(Regulations  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
as to  Food) 
the  Public  Health  (Foreign  Meat)  (Ireland) 
Act, 1907. 
amending Regulations,  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

County Courts  Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
(England) 
directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—• 
(Fees.) 
Copy  of  Treasury  Order,  dated  7th  July  1909, 
regulating  Fees  in  County  Courts. 

Superannua-
tion Act, 1884.  annuation Act,  1884, dated 9th November  1909, 

Copy  of  Treasury  Minute  under  the  Super­

declaring that Charles Gray, Lad, Royal Labora­
tory, War  Department, was appointed without a 
Civil  Service  Certificate  through  inadvertence 
on the part  of the head of his Department. 

Superannua-
tion Act, 1887.  annuation Act,  1887, dated 9th  November  1909, 

Copies of Treasury  Minutes  under the Super­

granting retired allowances to Mr. John M'Don­
ough,  Clerk,  Second  Division,  Savings  Bank 
Department,  Post  Office,  and  to  Mr.  Thomas 
N.  Harwood,  Clerk,  Second  Division,  Savings 
Bank Department,  Post Office. 

Bank ot 
England. 

Whisky  in 
Bond 
(Scotland.) 

Copy of Return  of the amount  of  Notes issued 
more  than  forty  years  which  have  not  been 
presented  for  payment,  and  which  have  been 
written off, on the 27th October  1909,  from the 
total  amount  of  Notes  issued  from  the  Issue 
Department  of  the  Bank  of  England pursuant 
to the Bank  Act,  1892. 

Mr.  Hobhouse also  presented,—Return  to  an 
Order, dated the 4th day of this  instant Novem­
ber,  for  a  Return  relative  to  Whisky  in Bond 

No. 318.  (Scotland). 

Ordered,-  That  the  said  Papers do  lie  upon  the 

Table;  and that  the  said  Return  be  printed. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Motor  Cars  Motor Cars 

(International  Circulation)  Bill,  without  any 
Amendment. 

Bm.nai 
to  the  County County 

The  Lords  have  agreed 

Councils  Mortgages  Bill,  without  any  Amend- ^°0ur'tg"g0a 
riient. 

Bill. 

The Lords have agreed to the Oaths Bill, with Oaths Bill. 

Amendments  ;  to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of this House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Police  Bill, Police BiU. 

with  Amendments;  to which  the  Lords  desire 
the concurrence  of this House. 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the  Asylums Asylums 
Officers'  Superannuation  Bill,  with  Amend-®fficers' 
ments:  to which  the  Lords  desire  the  concur-  tioinm U&" 
rence of this House. 

The Lords have agreed to the Naval Discipline Naval 

Bill,  with  Amendments; 
desire the concurrence  of this House. 

to  which  the  Lords  Discipline  Bill, 

The  Lords  have  agreed  to  the Amendments Small 

made  by this  House  to  the  Amendments made 
by the  Lords  to  the  Small  Dwelling-Houses  in Burghs 
Burghs  Letting  and  Rating  (Scotland)  Bill, Letting and 
with  Amendments,  to  which  the  Lords  desire  ®aCoS|nd) 
the  concurrence  of  this  House,  and  disagree  to  Bill (changed, 
the  consequential  Amendment  made  by  thisfrom House 
House  to  the  Bill,  for which  disagreement  the 
and 
Lords assign their  Reason,  and  do not insist  on (Scotland) 
their  Amendments  to  which  this  House  hath Bill.) 
disagreed. 

The  Lords  do  not  insist  on  their  Amendments  Irish Land 

to the Irish Land Bill  to which this  House hath B1U­
disagreed, but propose certain other Amendments 
in  lieu  thereof, to  which  the  Lords  desire  the 
concurrence  of  this House. 

The  Lords  agree  to  certain  of  the  Amend­

ments made  by this  House to the  Amendments pining, &c. 
made  by  the  Lords,  and  to  the  consequential Bill. 
Amendments  made  by  this  House,  to  the 
Housing,  Town  Planning,  &c.  Bill,  with 
Amendments,  disagree  to  certain  other  of  the 
said  Amendments,  but  propose  Amendments in 
lieu  thereof,  and  have  made  a  consequential 
Amendment  to  the  Bill,  to  which  the  Lords 
desire  the  concurrence  of  this  House.  The 
Lords  do not  insist  on certain  of  their Amend­
ments  to which this  House  hath  disagreed, and 
do  hot  insist  on  certain  other  of  their  Amend­
ments, but propose Amendments  in  lieu thereof, 
to  which  the  Lords  desire  the  concurrence  of 
this House. 

East India 
(State 
Prisoners.) 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre­
sented to His Majesty, that He will be graciously 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before this  House a  Return showing  the names 
of  the  persons  in  India  who are  now detained 
under the  provisions  of  Bengal  Regulation  III. 
of  1818  and  kindred  Regulations;  their  caste, 
race, or nationality ; the grounds for their deten­
tion ;  the  place and  nature  of  their  detention; 
and  the  date  from which  their  detention  com­
menced.-^ Sir Henry  Cotton.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments made  by the Mali  Land 

Lords  to  the  Irish  Land  Bill,  in  lieu  of  the  Bili... 
Amendments to which this House hath disagreed, 
be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments made  by  the  Oaths Bill. 
Lords to the Qaths Bill  be taken into considera-  Bill 359. 
tion to-morrow ;  and be printed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Amendments made  by the Police Bill. 
Lords  to  the  Police  Bill  be  taken  into  con-  Bill 360. 
sideration to-morrow ;  and  be printed. 

Message from 
the Lords. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
Message  had  been  brought  from  the  Lords   by 
one  of  their  Clerks,  as  followeth  : 

The Lords  have  agreed  to the  Local  Regis-
tration  of  Title  (Ireland)  Bill,  without  any 

Local 
Registration 
of  Title 
(Ireland)  Bill. .  Amendment. 
Robert 
The Lords  have  agreed  to  Robert  Gordon's 
Gordon's 
Technical  College  and  Aberdeen  Endowments 
Technical 
College and  Trust  Order  Confirmation  Bill,  without  any 
Aberdeen 
Endowments 
Trust Order 
Confirmation 
Bill. 

Amendment. 

V OL.  164. 

Ordered,  That the  Amendments made  by the Asylums 
Lords  to  the Asylums  Officers' Superannuation  Officers' 
Bill  be  taken  into  consideration  to-morrow;  and  tion Bill, 
be printed. 

Bill 355. 

Ordered, That  the Amendments made  by the Naval 

Lords to the Naval  Discipline  Bill be taken into Discipline Bil 
consideration to-morrow ;  and  be printed. 

Bill 357. 

Ordered, That  the Amendments made  by the Small 
Lords  to  the Amendments made  by this House Housesln 
to  the  Amendments made  by the Lords  to  the Burghs 

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[No. 174. 

Letting and 
Eating 
(Scotland) 
Bill (changed
from  House 
Letting and 
Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill.) 

B i ll  3 5 8. 

Housing, 
Town 
Planning, &c. 
Bill. 

Bill 356. 

Small  Dwelling-Houses  in  Burghs  Letting  and 
Bating  (Scotland)  Bill,  and  the  Lords'  Reason 
for  disagreeing  to  the  consequential  Amend­
ment  made  by  this  House  to  the  Bill,  be  taken 
into  consideration  to-morrow  ;  and  be  printed. 

Ordered, That the  Amendments  made  by the 
Lords  to the Amendments made  by this  House 
to the Amendments made  by the  Lords,  and  to 
the  consequential  Amendments  made  by  this 
House, to the Housing, Town Planning, &c. Bill, 
and the consequential Amendment made  by the 
Lords  to the Bill, and the Amendments made by 
the Lords  in lieu  of  the Amendments  disagreed 
to  by  this  House,  be  taken  into  consideration 
to-morrow ;  and be printed. 

£Jew Member 
•sworn. 

Charles O'Neill, Enquire, Member for Armagh 

County (South Armagh),  was sworn. 

Irish Land  

Bill. 


Ordered,  That  the Amendments  made  by the 
Lords  to  the  Irish  Land  Bill,  in  lieu  of  the 
Amendments  to  which  this  House  hath  dis­
agreed,  be now taken  into  consideration.—(Mr. 
Birrell.) 

The  House accordingly  proceeded to take the 

said Amendments into consideration. 

The  Lords'  Amendments,  as  far  as  the 
Amendment  in  p.  8,  1. 17, being  read  a second 
time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  8,1.  17,  leave 
out  from  ("that")  to  ("they"),  in  1. 19,  and 
insert ("  by means  of  the  existence  of  arrears 
of rent owed by the  tenant undue  influence was 
exercised  by the  landlord  to induce the  tenant 
to  enter  into  the  purchase  agreement, and  the 
security for the advance  might,  in  consequence, 
be  insufficient"),  the  next  Amendment,  being 
read a second time, was disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment 

in  -  1,  22,  after 

("with "), insert—­

("  (2)  Any  person  aggrieved  by  any  order 
of  the Land  Commission under this section may, 
within the prescribed time and in  the prescribed 
manner, apply  to the  Land  Commission  to refer 
the  order  to  the  Judicial  Commissioner  for 
consideration, and  in  such  case  the  order  shall 
not  have  effect  unless  and  until  it  is approved 
by  the  Judicial  Commissioner"),  the  next 
Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time,  was 
disagreed to. 

A  consequential  Amendment  was  proposed 
to be made to  the  Bill,  in p. 8,1.  14,  by leaving 
out Clause  14.— (Mr.  Birrell.) 

Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain Norton : 

Tellers for the j Captain  Donelan, 

Noes, 

I Mr. Patrick  O'Brien  :  ) 

1  183. 
J 

(  ™ 
* 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 9,1s.  11  and 12, 
leave  out  ( " first day  of  January  in  the  year 
nineteen  hundred  and  eight"),  and  insert 
("fifteenth day  of  September  in  the year nine­
teen hundred and  nine "),  the next  Amendment, 
being read a second time ; 
;  And  a Motion  being  made, and  the Question 
being put, That this  House  doth agree with the 
Lords  in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Birrell); 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

( Captain  Norton : 
Tellers for the j  Captain  Donelan, 

r215. 
)
( Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien  :  j  88. 

Noes, 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
A  consequential  Amendment  was  proposed to 
be made  to  the  Bill,  in  p.  9,  1. 14,  by  inserting 
at the end  thereof  the  words "  or  in the case of 
a former tenant  of  a tenancy created before  the 
first day  of  January  nineteen  hundred  and 
eight,  or  a  person  nominated  by  the  Land 
Commission  as his  personal  representative, pur­
chasing  his  former  holding,  or  part  thereof."-— 
(Mr.  Maurice  Healy.) 

And the Question being put, That those words 

be there inserted  in  the Bill  :—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  9,  leave  out 
la. 20,  21,  and  22, the  next  Amendment,  being 
read a second time ; 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and  the Question 
being  put,  That  this  House doth  agree with the 
Lords  in the said  Amendment—(Mr.  Birrell); 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 

The  Noes   to  the  Left. 
Tellers for the j  Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Tellers for the ( Captain Donelan, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Fuller: 

)
\ 
( Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien:  J 

) 

209.

85.

So  it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Then the subsequent  Lords' Amendments,  as 
far  as the Amendment  in p. 11,  1. 18,  being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p,  11,  1. 18, after 

And the Question  being  put,  That  the words 

("purposes"),  insert— 

proposed to  be left out stand part of the Bill; 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas   to  the  R i g h t; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left, 
Tellers for the j  Captain  Donelan,  . 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien : 

,  Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

( Captain Norton : 

80. 

192. 

So  it  passed  in  the  Negative. 
The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  8,  1. 36,  leave 
out  from  ( "  resides ")  to  ("  and "),  in  1. 40, the 
next Amendment,  being read a second time; 

And a Motion  being made, and  the Question 
being  put, That  this  House  doth agree with the 
Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Birrell)  ; 

("  (3)  The Land  Commission,  on the applica­
tion in the prescribed manner of any landlord who 
is desirous  of  selling  an estate  under  the  Land 
Purchase  Acts,  if  they  are  satisfied  that  it  is 
desirable that the landlord  should  be authorised 
to resume a portion  of a holding  upon the estate 
for  the purpose  of  planting  trees  or  preserving 
woods  or  plantations,  or  growing  timber,  and 
that  the  value  of  the  holding  will  not  be 
materially  diminished  by reason  of  the  resump­
tion, may authorise  the  landlord  to  resume that 
portion  upon  such  terms  as  may  be  approved 
of  by  the  Land  Commission,  including  full 
compensation  to  the  tenant,  and  may make  an 
order  accordingly  apportioning  the  rent  and 
discharging  that  portion  of  the  holding  from 
the tenancy "),  the next Amendment, being read 
a second time ; 

The  House  divided. 

The   Y eas  to  the  Right; 

The  Noes   to  the  Left. 

And a Motion  being  made, and  the Question 
being put,  That  this House  doth agree with the 
Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Birrell); 

NO. 174.]  9  E D W.   V I I. 

23rd November. 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

| Mr. Fuller: 

Tellers for the j  Captain  Donelan, 

190. 

\ 
]  81. 

•Noes, 

{ Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien :  ]  


So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

The  Lords'Amendment  in  p. 11,  1. 19, leave 
out  Clause 20, the next Amendment, Being read 
a second time ; 

And  a Motion  being made, and  the Question 
being put, That this  House  doth agree with the 
Lords  in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Birrell); 

An  Amendment  was  made  to  the  words 
inserted  by the  Lords,  by leaving out  the word 
"five,"  and  inserting  the  word  "seven"—(Mr. 
Birrell),—instead thereof. 

(agreed to. 

And the Lords' Amendment,  so amended, was 
' 
The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  12,  1. 23, leave 
out ("ten  pounds "),  and insert ("five  pounds"),, 
the next Amendment, being read a second time '; 
;  An  Amendment  was  made  to  the  words 
inserted  by the  Lords, by  leaving out  the word 
"five,"  and  inserting  the word  "  seven"—(Mr. 
Birrell),—instead  thereof. 

And the Lords' Amendment,  so.amended, was 

agreed to. 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers.for the j  Mr. Joseph Pease, 
(Mr 
Tellers for the f Captain  Donelan, 

.Fuller: 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

V 
( Mr. Patrick  O' Brien:  j 

179. 


80. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The  L o r d s'  A m e n d m e nt  

i n  p.  1 2,   leave  o ut 

Then  the subsequent  Lords'  Amendments,  as 
far  as the Amendment in p.  16,1.  24,  being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 16,  1. 24, leave 
out  (" five "),  and  insert  ("seven"),  the  next 
Amendment,  being read a second time ; 

And a Motion  being  made, and  the  Question 
being put, That this  House doth  agree with the 
Lords  in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Birrell)  ; 
1  The House divided. 

I s,  1   t o   4 ,  a nd 

i n s e r t— 

("  (1)  The consent  of  the owner required for 
the  purposes  of  subsection (4)  of  section  six of 
the Act  of  1903 shall cease to  be required "),  the 
next  Amendment, being read a second time ; 

And  a Motion  being made, and  the Question 
being put, That  this  House  doth  disagree with 
the  Lords  in  the  said  Amendment —  (Mr. 
Birrell); 

The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Fuller,

Yeas, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Gulland:

)
\ 
) 
( Mr.  Patrick  O' Brien:  j 

159. 

80. 

Tellers for the ( Captain Donelan, 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
Then the subsequent  Lords'  Amendments,  as 
far  as  the  Amendment  in p. 20,  1. 3, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Fuller, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Gulland:  

Tellers for the ( Mr.  Moore,  3 

Noes, 

; 
( Mr.  Charles Craig: 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

An  Amendment was  proposed  to  be made  to 
the  Bill,  in p.  12,  1. 2,  instead  of  the  words  so 
disagreed  to,  by  leaving  out  the  word  "  ten," 
and inserting the word "  seven"—(Mr.  Birrell),
—instead thereof. 

And  the Question  being  put, That  the word 
"  tea " stand part of  the Bill :—It  passed  in the 
Negative. 

y  And  the  Question  being  put, That  the word 
»" seven "  be there inserted  in the Bill; 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes to the Left. 
Tellers for the f Mr.  Fuller, 

Yeas, 

( Mr.  Gulland:  


Tellers for the ] Mr. Moore, 


Noes, 

( Mr.  Charles  Craig: 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 20,  leave  out 
Is.  3  to  8,  the  next  Amendment, being  read a 
second time; 

And  a Motion  being made, and  the Question 
being put, That  this  House  doth agree with the 
Lords  in the said Amendment—(.Mr.  Birrell)', 

219. 


 20. 

The House divided. 
The  Yeas  to the Right ; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Fuller, 

Yeas, 

| Mr.  Gulland : 

Tellers for the ( Captain Donelan, 

Noes, 

( Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien : 

168. 

81. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The  Lords' Amendment  in  p. 20,  1. 9,  at the 
beginning  of  the  subsection,  insert  ("  If  the 
owner  of  the  estate  accepts  such  proposal,  or 
consents  to  enter  into  negotiations  with  the 
Estates Commissioners "), the next Amendment, 
being read a second time,  was disagreed to. 

149. 

18. 

The Lords' Amendment  in  p.  20,  1.  9,  leave 
out  ("  the  Estates  Commissioners "),  and insert 
("  them"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read a 
second time, was disagreed to. 

So  it was resolved in,the Affirmative. 
The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  12,  1.  6, leave 
•out ("as  so  amended "),  the next  Amendment, 
being read a second time, was disagreed  to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  12,  leave  out 
1.  17, and  insert ("  more than one quarter  of the 
area  of  which  consists  of"),  the  next  Amend­
ment, being read a second time, was disagreed to. 

The Lords' Amendment  in p. 12, Is. 20 and 21, 
leave  out  (" ten  puxuids "),  and  insert  ( "  five 
pounds "),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read a 
second time; 
VOL.  164. 

An Amendment was made  to  the Bill,  in  lieu 
of  the  two  Amendments  last  disagreed  to,  by 
inserting,  in  p.  20,  1. 10, after the word "  any," 
the word "  congested."—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

The Lords' Amendment  in  p. 20,  1.  18,  leave 
out Clause 42, the next Amendment, being read 
a second time, was agreed to. 

Then the subsequent  Lords'  Amendments,  as 
far  as the Amendment in p. 22,  1. 39,  being read 
a  second time, were agreed to. 

The Lords' Amendment  in  p.  22,  1. 39, leave 
out  ("five"),  and  insert  ("  eight"),  the  next 
Amendment, being read a second time : 

3  T  3 



 
23rd—21th  November. 

1909. 

[No.-174. 

An  Amendment  was  made  to  the  Lords' 
Amendment,  by leaving  out  the  word  "  eight," 
and inserting the  word  "  nine "—(Mr.  Birrell),
—instead thereof. 

Tellers for the f Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Fuller: 

V  92. 
J 
1 
\Mr. Patrick  O'Brien :  J 

67. 

Tellers  for the (Captain  Donelan, 

And the Lords'  Amendment,  so amended, was 

So  it was  resolved  in the  Affirmative. 

agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  '23,  leave out 
Is.  1  to 4,  the  next  Amendment,  being  read a 
second time ; 

A  Motion  was  made,  and  the  Question  being 
put,  That  the further consideration  of the  Lords' 
Amendments  be  now  adjourned—(Mr.  Long) 
: 
— It  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the Question 
being put, That this House doth agree with the 
Lords  in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Birrell)  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Lords'  Amendments  be 

taken  into  further consideration  this  day. 

The  House  divided. 
The  Yeas  to the  Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for thefMr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

I Mr. Fuller  ;  


Tellers  for the/Captain  Donelan, 

1 
(Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien  :  I 

Noes, 

151. 

78. 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

Then the subsequent Lords' Amendments,  as 
far  as the Amendment  in p. 24,1.  19, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in p.  24,  1.  19,  leave 
out  ("  Clare"),  the  next  Amendment,  being 
read a second time; 

And  a  Motion  being  made,  and the Question 
being  proposed,  That  this  House  doth  agree 
with  the Lords  in  the  said  Amendment—(Mr. 
Birrell)  ; 

And  the  House  having  continued  to  sit  till 
after  Twelve  of  the  clock  on  Wednesday 
morning; 

Wednesday,  24dh  November 1909 : 

And the Question being put; 
The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for thefMr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Mr.  Fuller: 

Tellers for the {Captain  Donelan, 

99. 

\ 
J 
)  74. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking  Development 

into  consideration  the Amendments  made by  the 
Lords  to  the  Development  and  Road  Improve-  F^nde^Em" 
ment  Funds  Bill; 

Ordered,  That  the  said Amendments  be taken 

into  consideration  this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Assurance 
Committee  on  the  Assurance  Companies  Bill Companie^ 
i  L  «..[ 
[Lords]  ; 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Expiring Laws 

Committee  on  the  Expiring  Laws  Continuance  Continuance 
Bill;  

F 

Resolved,  That  this  House  will,  this  day, 

resolve  itself  into  the  said  Committee. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking Temperance 

into  consideration  the  Temperance  (Scotland)  (Scotland) 
Bill,  as amended  in  the  Standing  Committee  ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration  this  day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Trustees' 
Third  Reading  of the  Trustees'  Accounts  Bill;  Accounts Bill. 

And  a Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  the 
third  time :—And  a Debate  arising  thereupon ; 

And  a  Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  put,  That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned 
—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury); 

The  House  divided. 

Noes, 

(Mr.  Patrick  O'Brien :  J 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

The  Yeas  to  the  Right; 

The Lords'  Amendment  in p.  24,  1.  20,  after 
( " county "),  insert  ("  the four rural districts  of 
Ballyvaughau, Ennistymon,  Kilrush, and  Killa­
dysert,  in  the  county  of  Clare,  shall  together 
form one congested  districts  county "),  the  next 
Amendment,  being read a second time ; 

Amendments were made to the words inserted 
by the Lords,  in  1.  1,  by leaving  out  the word 
"four,"  and  inserting  the  word  "  six,"  instead 
thereof;  and in  1. 2,  by inserting, after the word 
"Kilrush,"  the  words  "  Scariff,  Tulla."—(Mr. 
Birrell.) 

And the Lords' Amendment,  so amended, was 

agreed to. 

Then the subsequent  Lords'  Amendments, as 
far as the Amendment in p. 29,  1. 18, being read 
a second time, were agreed to. 

The Lords' Amendment  in  p.  29,1.  18, after 
("  no "), insert ("  congested "),  the next Amend­
ment, being read a second time ; 

leas, 

The  Noes  to the  Left. 

Tellers for the) Sir Frederick  Banbury,  1 

/ 

IMr.  Carlile: 
1 

/  60. 

Tellers for the/ Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

I Mr  Fuller  : 
So it  passed  in the  Negative. 
And  the  Original  Question  being  put; 

Noes, 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  now read  the  third 
time  :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the Parliamentary 

Second  Reading  of  the  Parliamentary  Seats  g ^f 
(Peers  of  Scotland)  Bill; 

Sootland)  BlIU 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

this  dav. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Dublin  Police 

Second  Reading  of  the  Dublin  Police  Bill; 

Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  read  a  second  time 

And a Motion being  made,  and  the  Question 
being put, That this House  doth agree  with  the 
Lords  in the said Amendment—(Mr.  Birrell)-, 

this  day. 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the  Union Officers 

Second  Reading  of the  Union  Officers  (Ireland)  (Ireland) BilL 
Bill; 







No. 174.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

23rd—2ith  November. 

Ordered, That  the Bill  be read  a second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  the 
Second  Reading  of  the  Places  of  Worship 

Places of 
Worship 
((Enfranchise­
ment)  (No.   2)  (Enfranchisement) (No.  2)  Bill;  

Bill. 


Ordered, That the Bill  be read a  second time 

this day. 

The  Order  of  the day being  read, for  taking 
Bishopric of 
Sheffield  Bill.  into consideration the Bishopric of Sheffield Bill, 

as amended  in the Standing Committee ; 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  taken  into  con­

sideration this day. 

535 
1. 23, and  insert ("  to  enter  into  an agreement, 
or  to send a final offer for  the  purchase  of  the 
estate within one year "),  the  next Amendment, 
being read a second time,  was agreed to. 

The Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 29,1.  36, leave 
out Clause 62, the next Amendment, being read 
a second time, was agreed to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p. 30,  1. 40, leave 
out  ( "  Judicial  Commissioner"),  and  insert 
("court"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read 
a second time; 

And a Motion  being  made, and  the Question 
being  put, That  this  House cloth  disagree with 
the  Lords  in  the  said  Amendment  —  (Mr. 
Attorney  General for Ireland) ; 

Coal  Mines-
Regulation 
Bill. 

The  Order  of  the.day  being  read,  for  the 
Second Reading  of  the  Coal  Mines Regulation 
Bill; 

Ordered, That the  Bill  be read  a  second time 

this day. 

The House divided. 

The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the ("Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

(Captain Norton : 

246. 

Whereupon Mr. Deputy  Speaker adjourned 
the  House  without  Question  put,  pur­
suant to the Order  of  the  House  of  the 
20th  day  of  August  last,  it  being  then 
eleven minutes after One  of  the  clock on 
Wednesday morning, till this day. 

[No.  175.] 

Wednesday, 24th November 1909. 
The House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of the clock. 

P R A Y E R S. 

Table. 

S E V E R A  L  Public  Petitions  were  presented, 
and  read  ;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the 

Public 
Vide Supple- 
dent to 
Fifth  Report. 
Treaty  Series 
Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
(No. 33,1909.)  j j  i g  Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Exchange 
of  Notes  between  the  United  Kingdom  ami 
Switzerland,  renewing  for  a  further  period  of 
five  years  the Arbitration  Convention, signed at 
London,  16th  November  1904.  3rd  to  12th 
November  1909. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hums  presented,—Return  to  an  Order, 
London 
Equalisation  dated  the  3rd  day  of  August  last, for  Returns 
•of  Rates) 
relative  to  the  London (Equalisation  of  Rates) 
Act,  1894 
Act,  1894 (Accounts  under  Section  1 (7)  of the 
(Accounts 
under 
Act). 
Section  1  (7) 
•of the  Act.) 

Ordered,  That the said Return  do lie upon the 

No. 319.  Table;  and be printed. 

Ordered, That there be laid before this House 
Civil 
Contingencies  a Copy  of Accounts  of  the  Civil  Contingencies 
Fund,  1908  9.  Fund,  1908-9,  showing  (1)  the  receipts  and 
payments  in  connection with  the  Fund  in  the 
year  ended  the  31st day  of  March  1909;  and 
(2)  the  distribution  of  the capital  of  the Fund 
at  the  commencement  and  close  of  the  year; 
together with Copy  of  the Correspondence with 
the  Comptroller  and Auditor  General  thereon. 
—(Mr. Hobhouse.) 

Irish  Land 
Bill. 

The House, according  to Order, proceeded to 
take into further consideration  the Amendments 
made by the Lords  to the Irish Land  Bill. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 29,  1. 22, leave 
out  from  ("undertake")  to  ("Provided"),  in 

VOL.   164. 

Tellers for the) Yiscount  Valentia, 
Noes,  '  (Lord  Balcarres  ; 

| 
J 

45. 

So it Was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  31,  1. 4, leave 
out from ("  land ")  to  the end of  Clause  64, the 
next  Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time, 
was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  31,  after 
Clause  64, insert  Clause  E (Powers  of  court to 
restrain the compulsory acquisition  of  land), the 
next Amendment,  being read a second time; 

The  Clause  inserted  by  the  Lords  was 
amended,  in"  1.  23,  by  leaving  out  the  words 
"  or the amenity  of the owner's residence will be 
impaired ; "  in  1.  26,  by  leaving  out  the word 
"  court,"  and  inserting  the  words  "  Judicial 
Commissioner,"  instead  thereof;  in  1.  30,  by 
leaving  out  subsection (2);  in  1. 34,  by  leaving 
out from the beginning  of  subsection (3)  to  the 
word  "  and,"  in  1. 35, and  inserting  the  words 
"  the  Judicial  Commissioner  shall  hear  in  the 
prescribed manner and determine all applications 
coming  before him under  this Part  of  this Act, 
and for that  purpose shall have and may exercise 
the  powers  conferred  on  the  Land  Commission 
by  subsections  (1),  (3),  and  (4)  of  section 
forty-eight  of  the Act  of 1881," instead thereof; 
in  1. 40,  by  leaving  out  the  word "  court," and 
inserting  the  words "  Judicial  Commissioner," 
instead  thereof  ;  in  1. 46,  by  leaving  out  sub­
section  (5) ;  in  1. 52,  by  leaving  out  the  word 
"  court,"  and  inserting  the  words  "  Judicial 
Commissioner,"  instead  thereof, and  by  leaving 
out  the  words  "  on  any  question  of  law; "  in 
1.  53,  by  leaving  out  the  words  "on  such 
question  ; "  in  1.  54,  by  leaving  out  the  first 
word "  court," and inserting the words " Judicial 
Commissioner,"  instead  thereof;  and  in-1.  57, 
by  leaving  out  subsection  (8).—(Mr.  Attorney 
General for Ireland.) 

And the Lords' Amendment, so amended, was 

agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment 

in  p.  31,  after 
Clause 64, insert  Clause  F  (Applications  as to 
price),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second time : 

The  Clause  inserted  by  the  Lords  was 
amended,  in  I.  1,  by  leaving  out  the  word 
"  court,"  and  inserting  the  words  " Judicial 
Commissioner,"  instead  thereof;  in  1.  6,  by 
leaving  out  the  word  "court,"  and  inserting 
the  words  "  Judicial  Commissioner,"  instead 
thereof;  and  in  1.  9,  by leaving  out  the word 
"  court," and inserting the words "  Judicial Com­
missioner,"  instead thereof;  inl.  10,  by leaving 

3  Y  4 

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[No. 175. 

out subsection (2) ;  in  1. 28,  by leaving  out  tbe 
word "  section,"  and inserting  tbe  words,  "Part 
of  this  Act,"  instead  thereof,  and  by  leaving 
out  the  word "  court,"  and  inserting  the words 
"  Judicial  Commissioner,"  instead thereof ;  and 
in  1.  29,  by  leaving  out  the  words  "court 
may,  if  it  thinks  fit,"  and inserting  the words 
"  Judicial Commissioner  may, if  he  thinks fit," 
instead  thereof.—(Mr.  Attorney  General  for 
Ireland.) 

And the Lords' Amendment,  so amended, was 

agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  31,  after 
Clause  64,  insert  Clause  G  (Completion  of 
purchase),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read a 
second time; 

The  Clause  inserted  by  the  Lords  was 
amended,  in  1.  1,  by  leaving  out  the  word 
"  court,"  and  inserting  the  words  "  Judicial 
Commissioner"  — (Mr.  Attorney  General  for 
Ireland),—instead thereof. 

And the Lords' Amendment,  so amended, was 

agreed to. 

Then  the  remaining  Lords'  Amendments, 

being read a second time, were agreed to. 

Ordered,  That  a  Committee  be  appointed to 
draw  up  Reasons  to  be  assigned  to the Lords 
for  disagreeing  to certain  of  their Amendments 
to the Bill. 

And  a  Committee  was  nominated  of  Mr. 
Attorney  General for  Ireland,  Mr. Birrell,  Mr. 
Long,  Mr. Moore, and Mr.  Solicitor  General for 
Ireland. 

Ordered,  That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee :  And  they  are  to  withdraw imme­
diately.—(Mr.  Birrell.) 

Development 
and  Road 
Improvement 
Funds BiU. 

The  Order  of  the  day being read, for taking 
into consideration the Amendments made  by the 
Lords  to  the  Development and Road Improve­
ment Funds Bill; 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the  Question 
being proposed, That the Lords' Amendments be 
now  taken  into  consideration :—And  a Debate 
arising thereupon; 

Ordered, That  the  Debate  be now adjourned. 

—(Lord  Balcarres.) 

Ordered,  That  the  Debate  be  resumed  to­

morrow. 

Assurance 
Companies 
Bill  [Lords, 

The House, according to Order, resolved itself 
into  a  Committee  on the  Assurance  Companies 
Bill  [Lords]. 

(In  the Committee.) 

Motion  made,  and  Question  put,  That  the 

Chairman  do  report Progress,  and  ask leave to 
sit again.—(Sir  Frederick  Banbury.) 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for thej Sir Frederick  Banbury,  ) 
i 
1 Mr.  Hay: 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the/ Mr. Joseph Pease, 
L Captain Norton : 

Noes, 

36. 

196. 

}

Clause No. 1 amended, and agreed to. 
Clause  No. 2 (Deposit). 
Amendment proposed,  in p.  2,1.  20,  after the 
word "  company,"  to insert the words "  save  one 
registered or having its head office  in Ireland."— 
(Mr. Clancy.) 

Question proposed, That those words be there 

inserted :•—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Clause  No. 4 agreed to. 
Clause No. 5 (Actuarial report and abstract). 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  4,  1. 8,  to  leave 
out from the word "  years "  to the word "  cause," 
in  p. 4,  1. 10.—(Mr.  Hay.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Clause:— 
Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

An  Amendment made. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed to. 

C l a u s es  N o.  6   t o  N o.   1 2  a g r e ed 
Clause No.  13 amended, and agreed to. 
Clause No.  14 agreed to. 

t o. 

Clause  No.  15 disagreed to. 
Clause No.  16 (Special provisions  as  to  wind­

ing-up  of assurance companies). 

Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  8,  1.  26,  at the 
end,  to insert the words  "  Provided further  that 
no  part  of  the  capital  or  other  assets  of  the 
company  shall  be  released  from  liability  in 
respect  of assurance  contracts  until  it  has  been 
proved  to the  satisfaction  of  the  court  that  the 
assurance funds of the company are  sufficient  to 
meet  the  liability under  assurance  contracts  in 
full."—(Mr.  Hay.) 

Question, That those words be  there inserted, 

put, and negatived. 
Clause agreed to. 
Clauses No.  17  to No,  23 agreed to. 
Clause No.  24 amended, and agreed to. 
Clause No.  25 agreed to. 
Clause No.  26 amended, and agreed to. 
Clause No.  27  (Service  of  notices). 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  11,  1.  24,  at the 
end, to add the words "  Provided that where any 
person  claiming  to  be  interested  in a policy has 
given  to the  company  notice  in  writing  of  his 
interest,  and of  his desire that notices should  be 
sent to him at  an address  specified in the notice, 
any notice which is  by  this  Act  required  to  be 
sent to policy-holders s-ball also  be  sent  to such 
person  at  the  address  so  specified."  — (Mr. 
Churchill.) 

Question proposed, That  those  words be there 

added : 

Amendment proposed to the proposed Amend­
ment,  in  1.  2,  to  leave  out  from  the  word 
"  interest "  to  the  word  "  any?"  in  1.  3.—(Mr. 
Bertram.) 

Question, That the words proposed  to  be left 
out stand part of the proposed Amendment,  put, 
and negatived. 

Proposed  Amendment  further  amended,  in 
1. 5,  by leaving  out  the word  "  so,"  in  order  to 
add at the end  the words "  by him in his notice." 
—(Mr.  Solicitor General.) 

Proposed words,  as amended, inserted. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed to. 
Clause No.  28 amended, and agreed to. 
Clause No.  29 agreed to. 
Clause No. 30 amended, and agreed to. 

Clause  No.  31 (Application  to  life  assurance 

companies). 

Amendment proposed, in p.  13,  1. 11, after the 
word "on,"  to insert the words "death  (except a 
policy insuring against fatal accident) or."—( Mr. 
Lough.) 

An  Amendment made. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed to. 
Clause No. 3 amended, and agreed to. 

Question proposed,  That those words be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

Amendments made. 

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24th November. 

537 

Another Amendment  proposed,  in p. 13,1. 21, 
to leave .out paragraph (c),  in order to insert the 
words  "  Such  of  the  provisions  of  this  Act  as 
relate  to  deposits  to  be  made  under  this  Act 
shall not apply with respect  to the life assurance 
business carried  on  by the company if  the  com­
pany  has  been  established  within  the  United 
Kingdom, and  has  commenced  to  carry  on  that 
business within the  United  Kingdom, before the 
twenty-fifth  day  of  May nineteen  hundred  and 
nine.  Provided, however, that a company estab­
lished  within  the  United  Kingdom  which  has 
made  a  deposit  under  the  Life  Assurance 
Companies  Act,  1870,  and  has  not yet  become 
entitled  to  the  return  of  the  sum  so  deposited 
shall  be  required  to  keep  such  sum  deposited 
until its life assurance fund  shall  amount to  the 
sum  of  forty thousand  pounds."—(Mr.  Stuart-
Wortley.) 

Question, That the words proposed  to  be  left 
out stand part of the Clause, put, and agreed  to. 
Another Amendment proposed,  in p.  14,1.  13, 

at the end, to add the words— 

"  (g)  Any business carried  on by an assurance 
company  which,  under  the  provisions  of  any 
special  Act  relating  to  that  company,  is  to 
be  treated  as  life  assurance  business  shall  con­
tinue  to be  so treated, and shall  not  be  deemed 
to  be other  business  or a separate class of assur­
ance  business within  the meaning  of  this  Act." 
—(Mr.  Churchill) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

added. 

The  Committee  divided. 
Tellers for the ( Mr. Joseph Pease, 
|  Captain  Norton: 

Yeas, 

Tellers  for  the  ( Mr.  Hay,

Noes, 

( Sir  Seymour  King: 

)  ^^ 
j 
4 

Another Amendment made 
Clause,  as amended, agreed to. 
Clause No. 32 amended, and agreed to. 
Clause No. 33 amended, and agreed to. 
Clause No.  34 amended, and agreed to. 
Clause No. 35 amended, and agreed to. 
Clause No.  36 amended, and agreed to. 
Clause  No.  37  (Provisions  as  to  collecting 

societies and industrial assurance companies). 

Amendment  proposed, in p.  19,1.  20,  to  leave 
out  from  the  second word  "  assurance "  to  the 
word  "  of,"  in  1. 22,  in order to insert  the words 
"on  the life."—(Mr.  Keir  Hardie.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the words  proposed 

to be left out stand part of the Clause  ^Amend­
ment,  by  leave, withdrawn. 

Amendments made. 
Another  Amendment proposed, in p.  19,  1. 22, 
after the words last inserted,  to  insert the words 
"  Nor shall illegitimacy be a bar to the taking out 
of such policy."—(Mr.  Keir  Hardie.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The  Committee divided. 
Tellers for the (Mr.  Keir  Hardie, 

Yeas, 

\Mr.  Barnes : 

Tellers for the J Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Gulland : 

} 66. 

105. 

Another Amendment made. 
Another Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 20,  1. 9, 
after  the word  "  may,"  to  insert the words "  on 
it  being  shown  that  in  a  ballot  vote  of  the 
members  of  the  society  not less  than  fifty-five 
per cent,  of the total membership  is  in favour of 
the conversion."—(Mr.  Keir  Hardie.) 

Question proposed, That those words  be there 

inserted :—Amendment,  by leave, withdrawn. 

VOL.  164. 

Other Amendments made. 
Clause,  as amended, agreed to. 
Clause No.  38 agreed to. 
Clause No.  39 amended, and agreed to. 
Schedule 1. 
Amendment proposed,  in p. 21, note  6,  1. 2, to 
leave  out  the  word  "  agencies,"  in  order  to 
insert the words "  branch offices."—(Mr.  Hay.) 

Question proposed, That the  word "agencies" 
stand  part  of  the  Schedule:—Amendment,  by 
leave, withdrawn. 

Another Amendment proposed, in p. 21,  note 6, 
1. 2,  after  the  word  "  Kingdom,"  to  insert  the 
words  "in  countries  where  the  company  is 
required  to  make  a  special deposit  of  funds for 
the security of policy-holders  in those countries." 
—(Mr.  Stuart-Wortley.) 

Question, That those words  be there inserted, 

put, and negatived. 

Schedule  agreed  to. 
Schedule 2 agreed to. 
Schedule 3. 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p. 27,  note  1,  1. 2, 
to  leave  out from  the  word  "  business"  to the 
end of the note.—(Mr.  Hay.) 

Question, That the words  proposed  to  be left 
out stand part of the Schedule, put, and agreed to. 

Amendments made. 
Another Amendment proposed, in p. 27, note 3, 
1. 3, after  the words  last  inserted,  to  insert the 
words  "  Companies  established  outside  the 
United Kingdom must state the amount of assets 
in the hands  of any trustee  in  the United King­
dom for the benefit of British policy-holders."— 
(Mr.  Stuart-Wortley.) 

Question  put,  That  those  words  be  there 

inserted. 

The Committee divided. 
Tellers for the ( Mr.  Hay, 

Yeas, 

|  Mr.  Carlile : 

Tellers for the ( Mr.  Joseph Pease, 


Noes, 

( Mr.  Gulland: 

.  s 

) 
) 

164. 

Schedule,  as amended, agreed to. 
Schedule 4  agreed to. 
Schedule 5. 
Amendment  proposed, in p. 45,1.  18,  to leave 
out from thefirst word "  the "  to the end of 1.20, 
in order to  insert the  words "  rates  of  premium 
charged  by the company for  the various kinds of 
assurance transacted  by  it, with  a  statement  of 
any  exceptions  allowed  to  such  rates,  and  of 
any special terms granted  or  allowances madefto 
particular classes  or  groups of  persons,  and any 
discounts  or rebates  allowed  to  classes  or  indi­
viduals,  and  an  explanation  of  the  manner  in 
which  such special  terms, allowances, discounts, 
and  rebates  are  dealt  with  in  the  revenue 
account and valuation statements. 

A  statement  under  this  head  is  to  be made 
by  every  company within  six  months from  the 
commencement of this Act, and on every occasion 
when a change  is made  in the rates  or  terms of 
assurance."—(Mr.  Lough.) 

Question,  That  the  word  "  published" stand 

part  of the Schedule, put, and agreed to. 

An Amendment made. 
Schedule,  as amended, agreed to. 
Schedules 6 and 7 agreed to. 
Schedule 8 amended, and agreed to. 
Bill,  as amended,  to  be reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the Committee had gone through the Bill. 
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[No. 175. 

Bin  361. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 

Committee,  be  taken 
morrow  and  be  printed. 

into  consideration 

to­

Expiring Laws  The  House,  according  to Order, resolved  itself 
Continuance 

j n t  0  a  Committee  on  the  Expiring  Laws  Con­
tinuance  Bill. 

by  the  Lords  to  the  Naval  Discipline  Bill;  and  

the  same  were  twice  read,  and  agreed  to.  


Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to  

the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House  

hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their  

Lordships. 


(In  the  Committee.) 

Clauses  No.	  1  and  No.  2  agreed  to. 

Schedule  1. 
Amendment  proposed,  in  p.  4,  to  leave  out 

Is. 40  and 41.—(Mr.  Hay.) 

Question  proposed,  That  the  words  proposed 
to  be  left  out  stand  part  of  the  Schedule  : — 
Amendment,  by  leave,  withdrawn. 

Schedule  agreed  to. 

Schedule  2  agreed  to. 

Preamble  agreed  to. 

Bill  to  be  reported. 

Mr.  Speaker  resumed  the  Chair;  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  reported,  That 
the  Committee  had  gone  through  the  Bill, 
and  directed  him  to  report  the  same,  without 
Amendment. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  now read the  third 
time :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and  passed. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 

the  Lords,  and desire  their  concurrence. 

Asylums 
Officers' 
Superannua­
tion  Bill.  	

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made 
by  the  Lords  to  the  Asylums  Officers'  Super­
annuation  Bill. 

[Special 
Entry.] 	

Oaths  Bill. 

Police  Bill. 

The  said  Amendments  being  read  a  second 
time,  and  it  appearing  that  the  object  of  the 
Amendments  was  to  supply  omissions  of  the 
Commons, the  said  Amendments  were  agreed  to. 
Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the Bill  to 
the  Lords  ;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made 
by  the  Lords  to  the  Oaths  B i l l;  and  the  same 
were  twice  read,  and  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made 
by  the  Lords  to  the  Police  Bill;  and  the  same 
were  twice  read,  and" agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  Amendments  made  by  their 
Lordships. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read,  for  taking 
Small 
Dwelling-
into  consideration  the  Amendments  made  by  the 
Houses in 
Lords  to the  Amendments  made  by  this  House 
Burghs 
to  the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords  to the 
Letting  and 
Rating 	
Small  Dwelling-Houses  in  Burghs  Letting  and 
(Scotland) 
Rating  (Scotland)  Bill,  and the  Reason  assigned 
Bill (changed 
from  House  	 by  the  Lords  for  disagreeing  to  a  consequential 
Letting  and  Amendment  made  by  this  House  to  the  Bill;  

Bating 

(Scotland) 
Bill.) 


Ordered,  That  the  said  Amendments  and 

Reason  be  taken  into  consideration  to-morrow. 

The  Order  of  the  day  being  read, for  taking Housing, 

into consideration  the  Amendments  made  by  the 
Lords  to  the  Amendments  made  by  this  House  B1™mng'  c' 
to  the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords,  and  to 
the  consequential  Amendments  made  by  this 
House,  to the  Housing,  Town  Planning, &c.  Bill, 
and  the  consequential  Amendment  made  by  the 
Lords  to  the  Bill,  and  the  Amendments  made 
by  the  Lords  in  lieu  of  the  Amendments  to 
which  this  House  hath  disagreed  ; 

& 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Amendments  be  taken  


into  consideration  to-morrow.  


Mr.  Birrell  reported  from  the  Committee  Irish  Land 

appointed  to  draw  up  Reasons  to  be  assigned  to Bill, 
the  Lords  for  disagreeing  to  certain  of 
the 
Amendments  made  by  their  Lordships  to  the 
Irish  Land  B i l l;  That  they  had  drawn   up 
Reasons  accordingly,  which  they directed  him  to 
report  to  the  House;  and  the  same  were  read, 
as follow: 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  12,  1.  6,  for  the 
following  Reason  :—Because  it  is  consequential  

on  the  Amendment  to p.  12,  Is.  1  to 4,  to  which  

the  Commons have disagreed, and in  lieu  whereof  

they  have  inserted  other  words.  


The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment  

made  by  the  Lords,  to  leave  out  1.  17,  in  order  

to insert certain words, for the following  Reason  :  

-—Because  an  estate  ought  to  be  considered  as 
congested  if  the  majority  of  the  holdings  upon  

it  are  congested  holdings.  


The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment  

made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  30,  1.  40,  for  the  

following  Reason :—Because  it  is  desirable  that  

applications  under  Part  4  of  the  Bill  should  be  

made  to  the  J udicial  Commissioner.  


The  said  Reasons,  being  read  a second  time,  


were  agreed  to.  


Ordered,  That  a Message  be sent  to  the  Lords 
to  communicate  the  said  Reasons  (with  the  Bill 
and  Amendments)  :  And  that  the Clerk  do carry 
the  same. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  do now  adjourn.  • Adjournment. 

(Mr.  Joseph  Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  thirteen  minutes  after  

Eleven  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  to­
morrow. 


[No.  176.] 

Thursday,  25th November 1909. 

The  House  met  at  a quarter  of  an  hour  

before  Three  of the  clock.  


P R A T E R S. 

O E V E R A  L  Public  Petitions  were  presented,  Public 
O 
Table 

and —-i  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  thePetitions-

Vide  Supple-
ment  to 
Fifth  Beport. 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded  to 
Naval 
Discipline  Bill,  take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Diplomatic  and  g ^ " " ? 1 
Consular  Reports,  Annual  Series,  No.  4384. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by  His  Trade  Reports 









Colonial 
Reports 
(Annual.) 

Harbour. 

No. 176.]  9  E D W.  V I I. 

25th  November.  	
Ordered, That  the  said Paper  do lie upon the  That  the  Lords'  Amendments  to  the  Develop-
ment  and  Road  Improvement  Funds  Bill  be 
now taken into consideration; 

539 

Table.. 

Colonel  Seely  presented,  by  His  Majesty's 

And  the  Question  being  again  proposed:—<-• 
Command,—Copies  of Colonial Reports,  No. 624  The House resumed the said adjourned Debate, 
(Mauritius,  Annual Report  for  1908),  No.  625 
And the Question being put :-^It was resolved 
(Saint  Vincent, Report for 1908-9). 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper   do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  pursuant  to  the 
directions  of several Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy 
of  Statement  of  the  receipts  and  payments 
made  by  the  Board  of  Trade  on  account  of 
Ramsgate  Harbour  for  the  year  ended  31st 
March  1906,  together  with  an  Account  of  the 
receipt and issue  of Stores. 

Trade Boards 
Act, 1909. 

Copy  of  Regulations  made  by  the  Board  of 

Trade  under the Trade Boards  Act,  1909. 

Ordered, That the  said Papers do lie upon the 

Table. 

in the Affirmative. 

The  House  accordingly  proceeded  to  take 

the said Amendments into consideration. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  1,  1. 10,  after 

(" college "),  insert ("  school "),  thefirst Amend­
ment, being read a second time, was agreed to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  1,  1.  11,  leave 
out ('' or company not  trading  for  profit"), and 
insert ("corporate  or  unincorporate "),  the  next 
Amendment, being read a second time ; 

And a Motion being  made,  and the  Question 
being  proposed,  That  this  House  doth  agree 
with the  Lords  in  the  said  Amendment—(Mr. 
Chancellor  of  the Exchequer) : 

Civil 
Contingencies 
Fund,  1908-9. 
N o.  320. 

Mr. Hobhouse presented,—Return to an Order, 
dated the 24th day of this instant November, for 
a  Return  relative  to  the  Civil  Contingencies 
Fund,  1908-9. 

A  Message  was  delivered  by  Admiral  Sir Royal Assent* 

Henry Frederick  Stephenson, Gentleman Usher 
of the Black  Rod: 

Ordered,  That  the  said Return  do  lie  upon  the 

Mr.  Speaker, 

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Royal  Irish 
Constabulary. 

Ordered, That there be laid before this House 
a  Return  giving  the  total  annual  cost  of  the 
Royal  Irish  Constabulary  Forces  for  each  of 
the  past  eight  years  ending  the  31st  day  of 
March 1909, including  and  specifying  in  detail 
all sums contributed by the Imperial Exchequer, 
as well  as  by local authorities, for that service.— 
(Mr.  Butcher.) 

The  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's Commission,  for declaring  His  Royal 
Assent  to  several  Acts  agreed  upon  by  both 
Houses, desire the  immediate  attendance  of this 
Honourable  House  in  the  House  of  Peers,  to 
hear the Commission read. 

Accordingly  Mr.  Speaker,  with  the  House, 
went  up  to  the House  of  Peers :—And  having 
returned; 

Mining 
Royalties 
(Scotland.) 

Ordered, That there be laid  before this House 
a  Return,  as  regards  Scotland,  for  the  last 
complete year for which thefigures are available, 
(l)of  the  output  of  coal, shale,  and  iron  ore, 
and  (2)  of  the  rent  and  wayleaves  therefor, 
respectively,  as  ascertained  for  the  purposes of 
the  Lands  Valuation  (Scotland)  Act,  1854, 
under the following headings:— 

Mr.  Speaker  reported,  That  the  House,  at 
the desire  of  the Lords authorised  by virtue  of 
His  Majesty's  Commission,  had  been  at  the 
House  of Peers, where a Commission  under  the 
Great  Seal  was  read,  giving,  declaring,  and 
notifying  the Royal  Assent  to the several Acts 
therein mentioned;  and that the  Lords thereby 
authorised  had  declared  the  Royal  Assent  to 
the said Acts,  as follow : 

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—(Mr.  Dundas  White.) 

Small 
Holdings and 
Allotments 
(Amendment) 
Bill. 

B i ll  3 6 2. 

Mr.  Seddon,  supported  by Mr.  Courthope,  Mr. 

Ellis  Griffith,  Mr.  Thomas Frederick  Richards, 
Mr.  Lyulph  Stanley, and  Mr.  Tomkinson,  pre­
sented a Bill  to amend the Small  Holdings and 
Allotments  Act,  1907:  And  the  same  was 
ordered to be read  a second time upon Wednes­
day next;  and to be printed. 

Development 
and  Road 
Improvement 
Funds BiU. 

The  Order of the day being read, for resuming 
the adjourned  Debate  on the Question proposed 
upon  the  24th  day  of  this  instant  November, 

VOL.	  164. 

1.  Merchandise Marks (Ireland)  Act,  1909. 
2.  Fisheries (Ireland) Act,  1909. 
3.  Diseases  of Animals Act,  1909. 
4.  Prisons (Scotland)  Act,  1909. 
5.	  Summary  Jurisdiction  (Scotland)  Act, 

1908, Amendment Act,  1909. 

6.	  Education  (Administrative  Provisions) 

Act,  1909. 

7.  Cinematograph Act,  1909. 
8.	  Weeds and  Agricultural  Seeds  (Ireland) 

Act,  1909. 

9.	  Health  Resorts  and  Watering  Places 

(Ireland) Act,  1909. 

10.	  Wild  Animals  in  Captivity  Protection 

(Scotland) Act,  1909. 
11.  Electric Lighting Act,  1909. 
12.  Police (Liverpool  Inquiry) Act,  1909. 
13.	  Local  Registration  of  Title  (Ireland) 

Act,  1909. 

14.	  Motor  Car  (International  Circulation) 

Act,  1909. 

15.	  County  Councils  Mortgages  Act,  1909. 
16.  Oaths Act,  1909. 
17.  Police  Act,  1909. 
18.  Naval Discipline  Act,  1909. 
19.	  Local  Government  Board's  Provisional 
Orders Confirmation (No.  6)  Act,  1909. 
20.  Colinton  Tramways  Order  Confirmation 

Act,  1909.  


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21.	  Robert  Gordon's  Technical  College  and 
Aberdeen  Endowments  Trust  Order 
Confirmation  Act,  1909. 
22.  Cardiff Corporation  Act,  1909. 

Development 
and Boad 
Improvement 
Funds Bill. 

And tbe Question being again proposed, That 
this House doth  agree  with  the  Lords  in  their 
Amendment  in  p.  1,1.  11,  leave  out ("or  com­
pany not trading for profit"), and  insert ( "  cor­
porate or unincorporate " ) ; 

And the Question being put:—It  was  passed 
in the Negative, and the  Lords' Amendment was 
disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p.  1,  1. 25,  leave 
out (" the purchase  and  planting  of  land "),  and 
insert ( "  (1) "), the next Amendment, being read 
a second time, was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  2,  1. 2,  after 

(" afforestation "), insert— 

(" (2) the purchase and planting of land found, 
after  inquiry,  to be  suitable  for  afforestation "), 
the next Amendment,  being  read a second time, 
was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  2,  leave  out 
Is.  10 and 11, the next  Amendment,  being  read 
a second time; 

And a  Motion being made,  and  the  Question 
being put, That this  House  doth  disagree  with 
the Lords  in the said  Amendment—(Mr.  Chan­
cellor of the Exchequer); 

So much of the Lords'  Amendment as proposes 

to insert new subsection (4)  was disagreed to. 

So much of the Lords' Amendmenfas proposes 

to insert new subsection (5) was disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 3,  1. 13, leave 
out  ( "  the  House  of  Commons"),  and  insert 
("Parliament"),  the  next  Amendment,  being 
read a second time, was agreed to. 

Then the subsequent  Lords'  Amendments,  as 
far as the Amendment in  p. 4,  1. 33,  being  read 
a second time, were agreed  to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p. 4, Is. 33 to 37, 
leave out subsection (4),  the  next Amendment, 
being read a second time ; 

And  a Motion  being made, and the Question 
being  put,  That this House doth  disagree with 
the  Lords 
in  the  said  Amendment —  (Mr. 
Solicitor  General); 

The House divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The Noes to the Left. 
Tellers  for the | Mr. Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 

188. 
I Captain  Norton : 
Tellers for the/Sir  Frederick Banbury,  \  41. 

\Mr.  Harmood-Banner : J 

Noes, 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 
The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 5,1.  12,  after 
( "  Act "),  insert ("and  the Commissioners shall 
have  power  to  make  such  order"),  the  next 
Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time,  was 
agreed  to. 

Amendment 
divided. 

The  House  divided. 
The Yeas  to the Right; 
The  Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the j Mr. Joseph Pease,
( Captain Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers lor the ( Viscount Morpeth, 

Noes, 

I Mr. Bowles: 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  6,  1.  26, after 
("  roads"),  insert  ( "  or  towards  meeting  the 
extraordinary  expenditure incurred  by highway 
authorities  on the maintenance  of  roads  in  con­
sequence  of  motor  traffic"),  the  next  Amend­
ment, being  read  a  second  time, was disagreed 
to. 

9. 

38. 

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 
The  Lords' Amendment  in p. 2, Is. 16 and 17, 
leave out ( "  the Small Holdings and Allotments 
Act,  1908"),  and  insert  ("any  statute"),  the 
next Amendment, being read a second time, was 
disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  2,  1. 20,  after 
("  Commissioners "), insert  as new subsections— 
("  (4)  No  advance  shall  be  made  to  any 
association  of  persons  trading  for  profit, except 
to enable a public  authority  to secure  within its 
area the construction, maintenance, and working 
of a light railway  by  a  railway company,  or  of 
a  pier  or  harbour  by  a  harbour  board  or 
harbour commissioners. 

(5)  Before  making  any  recommendation  for 
an  advance  under  this  Part  of  this  Act,  the 
Development  Commissioners  shall  consider  the 
matter with special  reference  to  the  magnitude 
of the undertaking and the  interests likely  to be 
affected,  and  the  extent  and  situation  of  any 
land necessary for the  undertaking,  and whether 
such land is likely  to be  acquired  by agreement, 
and if  a majority  of the  Commissioners consider 
that their  proposals  should  be  laid  before  Par­
liament they shall forward a  draft  recommenda­
tion to the  Treasury.  The  Treasury  shall  not 
act  upon  such  draft  recommendation  until  it 
has  lain  for  thirty days  during  the  Session  of 
Parliament  on  the  Table  of  both  Houses  of 
Parliament,  and  if  either  House  during  those 
thirty  days presents  an Address to His Majesty 
against the draft no further proceedings shall be 
taken  thereon,  but  without  prejudice  to  the 
making  by  the  Commissioners  of  a  new draft 
recommendation "),  the next  Amendment, being 
read  a  second  time,  the  Amendment  was 
divided. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  6,1,  27, leave 
out ("themselves"),  the next Amendment, being 
read a second time, was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  6,  1. 30,  leave 
out  from ( "  In  making  advances "),  and  insert 
( "  Where advances  have been made"),  the next 
Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time,  was 
agreed  to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  7,  1. 13,  at  the 
beginning  of  the  subsection,  insert  ( "  Every 
road constructed by the  Road  Board  under the 
provisions  of  this  Part  of  this  Act  shall  be a 
public highway,  and  the  enactments  relating to 
highways and bridges  shall  apply  to such  roads 
accordingly,  except  that  the  cost  bf  the  main­
tenance  of every such road shall be borne by the 
Road Board and "),  the  next Amendment, being 
read a second time ; 

The  words  inserted  by  the  Lords  were 
amended,  in  1.  5,  by  leaving  out  the  words 
"  the  cost  of  the  maintenance o f ;"  and  in  1.  6, 
by  leaving  out  the  words  "  borne  by,"  and  in­
serting  the words "  maintainable  by and  at  the 
cost  o f"  —  (Mr.  Solicitor  General), — instead 
thereof. 

And the Lords' Amendment, so amended, was 

agreed to. 

The Lords' Amendment  in p.  7, Is.  14 and 15, 
leave  out  ( " road  constructed  by  the  Road 
Board "),  and  insert  ( " such  road "),  the  next 
Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time,  was 
agreed  to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  7,  1. 20, leave 
out  from ("  bridges")  to  ("and"),  in  1. 23,  the 
next  Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time, 
was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  8,  1.  5,  after 
( "  authority "),  insert  ("  and if, notwithstanding 

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an  objection  made  by  a  county  council  within 
such  area,  the  Treasury consider  that  the Con­
struction •of  the  proposed  road  should  be  pro­
ceeded with, the  approval  of  the  Treasury shall 
not have effect unless and until, after submission 
to Parliament  by way of Provisional  Order, it is 
confirmed  by  Parliament"),  the  next  Amend­
ment, being read a second time; 

And  a  Motion  being made, and the Question 
being  put, That  this  House  doth  disagree with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr. Solicitor 
General) ; 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas   to  the  Right; 

The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers for thef Mr. Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

i Captain  Norton: 

Tellers for the) Lord  Robert Cecil, 

Noes, 

IMr. Peel-. 

So  it  was resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

} 188. 

42. 

"1 
J 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  8,  1. 15,  leave 
out ("borrowing  provisions"),  and insert  ("pro­
visions  as to borrowing"), the next Amendment, 
being read a second time, was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p. 8,  1. 24, after 
("  the "),  insert  ("  Treasury  have  approved  a 
proposal  by the "),  and  leave  out  ( "  propose "), 
the next Amendment,  being read  a  second time, 
was agreed to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  8,  1.' 26, leave 

out  from  ("  purpose")  to  the  end  of  the  sub­
section,  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second  time ; 

And a Motion  being  made, and  the Question 
being  put, That  this  House  doth  disagree with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr. Solicitor 
General); 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas   to  the  R i g h t; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the [Mr.  Joseph Pease, 

Yeas, 

[Captain Norton: 

Tellers for the) Sir  Samuel  Scott, 

Noes, 

I Mr.  Bowles : 

\ 178 
j 

}

So it was resolved in the Affirmative. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  9,  1. 9,  leave 
out  from ( "  Act  " )  to  the end of  the subsection, 
and  insert ( "  and  the  Commissioners shall  have 
power  to make such  an  order "),  and  also insert 
the following new subsections— 

("  (6)  No land shall  be authorised by  an order 
under  this  section  to  be acquired  compulsorily 
which at the date of the order has been acquired 
by any corporation  or company for the purposes 
of  a railway, dock, canal, water,  or other public 
undertaking,  but  such  an  order  may  contain 
power  to acquire compulsorily  an easement over 
such  land  for  the purpose of  carrying any new 
road over or under  the  same, and  shall  in  that 
case contain all  such  provisions  as  the Develop­
ment  Commissioners  may  deem  necessary  for 
the  protection  of  the owners  of  such  land and 
the  prospective  development  thereof  for  the 
purposes  of  any  such  undertaking,  and  for 
securing  the  safety  of  the  public  using  the 
same  and  the  free  and  uninterrupted  passage 
of traffic thereover. 

(7)  Where,  by the approval  by  the Treasury 
of  the  construction  of  a  new  road  under  this 
Part  of  this Act,  any  property  is  increased  in 
value, the Road Board or the highway authority, 
in  cases  where  a  highway authority are  autho­
rised  to construct  a  new  road  under  this  Part 

VOL.  164. 

of  this Act,  if  the Board  or the highway autho­
rity,  as  the  case  may be, make a  claim  for  the 
purpose within three months of  the approval  by 
the Treasury  of  the construction  of  the road, or 
of  an order made  by the Development  Commis­
sioners  authorising  the  acquisition  of  land  for 
the purpose  of  the road, whichever  be the later, 
shall  be  entitled  to  recover  from  any  person 
whose  property  is  so  increased  in  value  such 
proportion  of  the  expenditure  of  the  Road 
Board  or  the  highway  authority,  as  the  case 
may  be,  as,  failing  agreement,  in  the  opinion 
of  an arbitrator, such  person should pay, having 
regard  to the improvement in  the value  of  such 
property. 

(8)  Any  disputed  question  as  to whether any 
property  is increased in value within the meaning 
of  this section,  or as  to  the amount and manner 
of  payment  (whether  by  instalments  or  other­
wise)  of  the sum which  the Road  Board  or the 
highway  authority  is  entitled  to  recover,  shall 
be  determined  by  arbitration  under  this  Act 
in accordance with  the Schedule  to  this  Act"), 
the  next  Amendment,-  being  read  a  second 
time; 

And  a  Motion  being  made, and the Question 
being  put,  That  this  House  doth disagree with 
the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr. Solicitor 
General) ; 

The  House divided. 
The Yeas  to the  Right; 
The Noes  to the Left. 
Tellers for the) Mr. Joseph Pease, 
I Captain Norton : 

Yeas, 

Tellers for the i Lord Robert  Cecil, 

Noes, 

\ Mr.  Carlile : 

So it was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

}178. 
1  32. 
J 

An  Amendment was made  to the  Bill,  in  lieu 
of  the  Lords'  Amendment  last  disagreed  to, in 
p.  9,  1.  9,  by  inserting,  after  the  word  "  Act," 
the  words  "  and  the  Commissioners  shall have 
power  to  make  such  an  order."—(Mr.  Solicitor 
General.) 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  9,  1. 27,  after 
("grant"),  insert  ("The  Treasury  shall  cause 
an  account  to  be  prepared  and  transmitted  to 
the  Comptroller  and  Auditor  General  for 
examination,  showing  the  receipts  into  and 
issues  out  of  the  road  improvement  grant  in 
the financial year  ending  the  thirty-first  day 
of  March  preceding^  and  the  Comptroller  and 
Auditor  General  shall  certify  and  report upon 
the  same,  and  such  account  and  report  shall 
be  laid  before  Parliament  by  the  Treasury  "), 
the next Amendment, being  read a second  time, 
was agreed to. 

Then  the  subsequent  Lords' Amendments, as 
far  as  the  Amendment  in  p.  11,  being  read a 
second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  11,  leave  out 
Clause  18,  and  insert  Clause  B  (Obligation  to 
consider the state and prospects of  employment), 
the next Amendment, being  read a second  time, 
was disagreed to. 

The  Lords' Amendment  in  p.  11,  1. 13, leave 

out  from ( " Parliament")  to  the  end  of  sub­
section (3),  and insert ("  but this  provision  shall 
not apply  to the acquisition  of any common land 
for the purpose  of the construction of a new road 
or the improvement  of  an existing  road within a 
rural district. 

Provided  that  no  order  of  the  Development 
Commissioners under Part I.  or Part  II.  of  this 
Act  shall  authorise  the  acquisition  of  any land 
which is a metropolitan common within the terms 
of the Metropolitan  Commons Act,  1866,  or is a 

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suburban  common  as  defined  by  the  Commons 
Act, 1876, or is subject to a scheme of regulation 
made in pursuance of  the Metropolitan Commons 
Acts,  1866  to  1898,  or  the  Inclosure  Acts, 
1845  to  1899,  or  to  a  private  or  local  Act  of 
Parliament"),  the  next Amendment, being  read 
a second time ; 

And  a  Motion being  made, and the  Question 
being put, That this House doth disagree with the 
Lord?  in  the  said  Amendment—(Mr.  Solicitor 
General) :—It  was resolved  in the Affirmative. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  12,  in  the 
Schedule,  leave  out  from  the  beginning  of  the 
Schedule  to  ("incorporate"),  in  1.  30,  and 
insert— 

( " ( 1)  Where  a  Government  Department, 
body,  or  persons  to  whom  an  advance  is  made 
under Part I.  of this Act,  or the Road  Board or 
a  highway authority  (in  this  Schedule  referred 
to  as  ' the  undertakers'),  propose  to  purchase 
land  compulsorily  under  this  Act,  the  under­
takers  may  submit  to  the  Development  Com­
missioners  the  draft  order  putting  in  force,  as 
respects  the  lands  specified  in  the  order, the 
provisions  of  the  Lands  Clauses  Acts  with 
respect  to  the  purchase  and  taking  of  land 
otherwise than by agreement. 

(2)  The  order  shall  be  in  the  prescribed 
form  and  shall  contain  such  provisions  as  the 
Development  Commissioners  may  prescribe  for 
the  purpose  of  carrying  the  order  into  effect, 
and"),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second time, was agreed to. 

Then the subsequent  Lords'  Amendments,  as 
far  as  the  Amendment  in  p.  13,  1.  33,  being 
read a second time, were agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  13,1.  33, after 

( "  otherwise "),  insert­

er (5)  An  order  may  provide  for  the  con­
tinuance  of  any  existing  easement  or  the 
creation  of  any  new  easement  over  the  land 
authorised  to  be acquired, and every such order 
shall, if  so  required by the owner  of the land to 
be  acquired,  provide  for  the  creation  of  such 
new  easements  as  are  reasonably  necessary to 
secure the continued use and enjoyment  by such 
owner  and  his  tenants  of  all  means  of  access, 
drainage, water  supply, and  other  similar  con­
veniences  theretofore used  or enjoyed  by them 
over the land to  be acquired ")  the next Amend­
ment, being read a second time; 

The  words  inserted  by  the  Lords  were 
amended, in  1. 3,  by leaving  out  from  the  word 
"  acquired"  to  the  end  of  the  Lords'  Amend­
ment.—(Mr.  Solicitor General.) 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in p.  13,  1. 38, after 

("easements"),  insert  ("or  in  Scotland  servi­
tudes "),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second time, was disagreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  13,1.  39, after 

("land"),  insert— 

( " ( 7)  In  this  Schedule  the expression  'pre­
scribed ' means prescribed  by the  Development 
Commissioners"),  the  next  Amendment, being 
read a second time ; 

The  words  inserted  by  the  Lords  were 
amended,  by  adding  at  the  end  thereof  the 
words "and  in  Scotland  the  expression  'ease­
ments'  means  servitudes." —  (Mr.  Solicitor 
General.) 

And  the Lords' Amendment,  so amended, was 

agreed to. 

Ordered,  That  a Committee  be  appointed  to 
draw  up  Reasons  to  be  assigned  to  the  Lords 
for disagreeing  to certain of  their  Amendments 
to the Bill. 

And  a  Committee  was  nominated  of  Mr. 
Chancellor  of the Exchequer, Lord Robert  Cecil, 
Mr.  Masterman,  Viscount  Morpeth,  and  Mr. 
Solicitor General. 

Ordered, That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee :  And  they  are  to  withdraw imme­
diately.—(Mr.  Solicitor General.) 

The  House, according  to Order, proceeded to Housing, 
take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made Town 
by the  Lords to the  Amendments  made  by this |{iLning'&c" 
House  to  the Amendments made  by the Lords, 
and  to  the consequential Amendments  made by 
this House  to  the Housing,  Town Planning, &c. 
Bill,  and  the  consequential  Amendment  made 
by the  Lords to the  Bill,  and  the  Amendments 
made by the Lords in lieu  of their Amendments 
disagreed to  by this  House ;  and  the same were 
twice read, and agreed to. 

Ordered, That the  Clerk  do carry the  Bill  to 
the Lords;  and acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to the  Amendments  made  by their 
Lordships. 

The House,  according  to  Order, proceeded  to Small 
take  into  consideration  the  Amendments  made Dweliing­
by the  Lords  to the  Amendments  made  by this Burghs"1 
House  to  the  Amendments  made' by the  Lords Letting and 
to  the  Small  Dwelling-Houses  in  Burghs Rating 
Letting  and  Rating  (Scotland)  Bill,  and  the  (Bm 
Reason  assigned  by  the  Lords  for  disagreeing  to from House 
the  consequential  Amendment  made  by  this Letting and 
House to the Bill. 

f S  n d  ) 

And  the  Lords'  Amendment,  so  amended, 

was  agreed  to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  in  p.  13,1.  33, after 
new  subsection  (5)  inserted  by  the  Lords, 
insert— 

("  (6)  Where  the land is glebe land  or other 
land  belonging  to  an  ecclesiastical  benefice, 
the order shall  provide  that  sums agreed  upon 
or awarded  for  the  purchase  of  the  land,  or to 
be paid  by way of compensation for the damage 
to be sustained by the owner by reason of sever­
ance or other injury affecting  the land, shall not 
be paid as directed by the  Lands  Clauses Acts, 
but  shall  be  paid  to  the  Ecclesiastical  Com­
missioners, to be applied  by them  as money paid 
to  them  upon  a  sale  under  the  provisions  of 
the Ecclesiastical Leasing Acts  of land belonging 
to a  benefice. 

The  provisions  of  this  paragraph  shall  not 
apply  to  Scotland  or  Ireland"), 
the  next 
Amendment,  being  read  a  second  time,  was 
agreed  to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  to  the  Commons'BiU>)

Amendment  to  the  Lords' Amendment,  in new 
Clause A  inserted  by the Lords,  1. 24, leave out 
( "  levied  on and "),  the first Amendment,  being 
read a second time, was agreed to. 

The  Lords'  Amendment  to  the  Commons' 
Amendment  to  the  Lords'  Amendment,  in  new 
Clause  A,  1. 96, after paragraph  (iii),  insert  the 
following new subsection,  viz.— 

("(4)—(i)  If  an  owner  who  has  undertaken  

by  agreement  with  the  occupier  to  pay  any  

assessment  on  his  behalf  omits  or  neglects  to  

pay  it,  the  occupier  may  pay  the  same  and  

deduct the amount from the rent due or accruing 

due  to  the  owner,  and  the  receipt  for  such  

assessment shall  be a valid discharge  of  the rent 

to the extent  of the assessment  so paid. 


(ii)  An owner shall not be called  upon  nor be 

liable  to pay any assessment imposed by a parish 

council  on  behalf  of  an  occupier  under  or  in  

virtue of the provisions  of this section until after 

the  twentieth  day  of  June  next  following  the  

imposition  of  the assessment. 


NO. 176.J  9  E D W.  V I I. 

25th  November.  


(iii)  All  provisions   of  any  Act  with  respect 
to  notice  to  be  given  of  occupiers'  assessments 
in  arrear  shall  apply  to  occupiers  of  premises 
capable  of  conferring  any  qualification  or 
franchise,  although  the  owners of  such  premises 
are  responsible  for  the  occupiers'  assessments 
thereon *'),  the  next  Amendment,  being  read  a 
second time,  was disagreed  to. 

inserted  by 

Then  the  Lords'  Reason  for  disagreeing  to 
this  House, 
new  Clause  D 
"  Because  under  its  provisions  an  owner  might 
be  compelled  to  pay  the  parish  council  rates  of 
an  occupier  at  such  a  date  as  to  qualify  him 
for  the  parliamentary  franchise,  although  he 
might  never  pay  those  rates,"  was  taken  into 
consideration. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  doth  not  insist 
upon  its  Amendment  to  which  the  Lords  have 
disagreed.—(The  Lord  Advocate.) 

And  an Amendment  was made  to  the Bill,  by 
inserting  new Clause  D  (Occupiers'  assessments) 
—(The  Lord  Advocate),—instead  thereof. 

Ordered,  That  a  Committee  be  appointed  to 
draw  up  Reasons  to  be  assigned  to  the  Lords 
for  disagreeing  to  one  of  their  Amendments  to 
the  Bill. 

And  a  Committee  was  nominated  of  the 
Lord  Advocate,  Mr.  Barnes,  Mr.  Murray
Macdonald,  and  Mr.  Solicitor  General  for 
Scotland. 

Ordered,  That  Three  be  the  quorum  of  the 

Committee:  And  they  are  to  withdraw  imme­
diately.—(The  Lord  Advocate.) 

of  the Development  Fund ;  and  the Commons 
consider  it  unnecessary  to  offer  any  further 
Reason,  hoping  the  above  Reason  may  be 
deemed sufficient. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made by the Lords  in p. 2, Is.  16 and 17, for the 
following Reason :—Because  it  alters  the con­
ditions under which  advances  may  be  made out 
of  the  Development  Fund ;  and  the  Commons 
consider  it  unnecessary  to  offer  any  further 
Reason,  hoping  the  above  Reason  may  be 
deemed sufficient. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  2,  1.  20,  to  insert 
subsection  (4),  for  the  following  Reason :— 
Because  it  alters the persons to whom advances 
may  be  made  out  of  the  Development  Fund; 
and  the  Commons  consider  it  unnecessary  to 
offer  any  further  Reason,  hoping  the  above 
Reason may  be deemed sufficient. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made  by the  Lords  in p. 2,1.  20,  to insert  sub­
section (5), for the following Reason :—Because 
it  imposes  an  unnecessary  restriction  on  the 
powers of the Development Commissioners. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made by the Lords  in  p. 4,  Is.  33  to 37, for the 
following  Reason:—Because  the  information 
they may acquire  in the  course  of  the perform­
ance  of  their  duties  is  likely  to  place  the 
Commissioners  in  an  advantageous  position for 
framing  well-considered  schemes  of  develop­
ment ;  and it  is inexpedient  to  deprive  them of 
the power  of framing such schemes. 

Assurance
BttTPSnL 1

  t Q 

The  House,  according  to  Order,  proceeded 
the  Assurance 
[.Lords],  as  amended  in  the 

iuto  consideration 

t a ^ e 

Companies  Bill 
Committee. 

A  Clause  was offered to  be  added  to  the  Bill 
(Illegitimacy  not  to invalidate  policies).—(Mr. 
Barnes.') 

And  the  said  Clause  was  brought  up,  and 

read the first time. 

And  a  Motion  being  made,  and  the  Question 
being  put,  That  the  said  Clause  be  now  read 
a  second time : — It  passed  in  the  Negative. 

Then  Amendments  were  made  to  the  Bill. 

Ordered,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  the  third 
time  :—The  Bill  was  accordingly  read  the  third 
time  and  passed,  with  Amendments. 

Ordered,  That  the  Clerk  do  carry  the  Bill  to 
the  Lords;  and  acquaint  them  that  this  House 
hath  agreed  to  the  same,  with  Amendments;  to 
which  this  House  doth  desire the  concurrence  of 
their  Lordships. 

Development 
and  Road 
Improvement 
Funds Bill. 

Mr.  Solicitor General reported from the Com­
mittee  appointed  to  draw  up  Reasons  to  be 
assigned  to  the Lords for disagreeing  to certain 
of the Amendments made  by  their Lordships to 
the Development  and Road Improvement Funds 
Bill;  That they had  drawn  up Reasons accord­
ingly,  which they had directed  him  to report to 
the House ;  and the same were read, as follow : 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made by the Lords  in p.  1,  1. 11, for  the follow­
ing Reason :—Because  it  alters  the  persons to 
whom advances may  be  made out  of  the  Deve­
lopment  Fund;  and  the  Commons  consider  it 
unnecessary  to offer any further Reason, hoping 
the above Reason may be deemed sufficient. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p. 2, Is.  10 and 11, for 
the  following  Reason :—Because  it  alters  the 
purposes for which  advances  may  be  made out 

VOL.  164. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by the  Lords  in  p.  6,  1.  26,  for the  fol 
lowing  Reason :—Because  it  would  alter  the 
purposes  for  which  advances  may  be made out 
of  the  Road  Improvement  Grant ;  and  the 
Commons  consider  it  unnecessary  to  offer any 
further Reason,  hoping  the  above  Reason may 
be deemed sufficient, 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made  by the  Lords  in p. 8,1.  5, for  the  follow­
ing  Reason:—Because  the  interests  of  county , 
councils are sufficiently safeguarded without the 
Amendment;  and the Amendment would enable 
the county council to throw unnecessary  expen­
diture  on  the  Road  Board,  and  to  cause 
unnecessary delay. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  8,  1. 26, for  the  fol­
lowing Reason :—Because the power of acquiring 
land likely to be benefited by  the construction  of 
a new road  seems  the  best  method for securing 
to the Road Board the increment  in the value of 
the land due to expenditure  of the Road Board. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 

made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  9,  1.  9,  for  the  fol­
lowing Reason :—Because,  as  respects  the new 
subsection  (6),  it  may  be  necessary  to  acquire 
for the purposes  of  the new road  land belonging 
to a corporation  or company for the  purposes  of 
a  railway,  dock,  canal,  water,  or  other  public 
undertaking  ;  and,  as  respects  the  new  sub­
sections (7)  and (8),  because  they  are  proposed 
in substitution for the  provision  as to the acqui­
sition  of  land  at  the  side  of  the  proposed new 
road which has been struck out by the  Lords. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  11,  to  leave  out 
Clause 18, and insert Clause B, for the following 
Reason :—Because it alters the conditions under 
which advances may be made out of the Develop­
ment  Fund  and the Road Improvement  Grant; 
and  the  Commons  consider  it  unnecessary  to 
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25th  November.—1st December. 

1909. 

[No. 177. 

offer  any  further  Reason,  hoping  the  above 
Reason may  be deemed sufficient. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  11,  1,  13,  for  the 
following  Reason :—Because  it  unnecessarily 
restricts  the  power  of  the  acquisition  of  land 
forming  part  of  a  common,  open  space,  or 
allotment for the purposes  of the Bill. 

The  Commons  disagree  to  the  Amendment 
made  by  the  Lords  in  p.  13,  1.  38,  for  the 
following  Reason:—Because  it  is  desirable  to 
generalise the  definition  of  "easement"  in  the 
application  of the Bill  to Scotland. 

The said  Reasons,  being read a second  time, 

were agreed to. 

Ordered, That a Message  be sent to the Lords 
to communicate the said  Reasons  (with  the Bill 
and Amendments)  *. And that the Clerk  do carry 
the same. 

Department,  applying  the  provisions  of  Sec- (Chocolates, 

tion 116 of the Factory and Workshop Act, 1901, &c-) 

with modifications, to Factories  and  Workshops  

ib  which  the  manufacture  of  Chocolates,  or  

Sweetmeats,  or Cartridges, or Tobacco is carried 

on. 


Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Secretary  of Factory and 
State  for  the  Home  Department,  dated  22nd ( p ^ X t o f  S 
November  1909,  applying,  with  modifications, work and 
the  provisions  of  Section  116  of  the  Factory  Wages) 
and  Workshop  Act,  1901,  to  Bleaching  and jgjJSrtL) 
Dyeing  Works  and  Factories  and  Workshops, 
or parts thereof, in which the Printing  of  Cotton 
Cloth  is carried on. 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the  Shop Hours 

City of Cardiff under the Shop Hours Act,  1904, Act>1904­
and confirmed by the Secretary  of  State for the 
Home  Department, fixing the  hours  of  closing 
for certain classes  of  Shops. 

Ordered, That the said  Papers  do lie upon the 


Table. 


Small 
Dwelling-
Houses in 
Burghs 
Letting and 
Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill (changed 
from  House 
Letting  and 
Bating 
(Scotland) 
Bill.) 

The  Lord  Advocate  reported from the Com­
mittee  appointed  to  draw  up  Reasons  to  be 
assigned  to the Lords for  disagreeing  to certain 
of the Amendments  made  by the  Lords  to  the 
Amendments made by this HoUse to the Amend­
ments made by the Lords to the Small Dwelling-
Houses  in  Burghs  Letting  and  Rating  (Scot­
land)  Bill  ;  That  they had  drawn  up  a Reason 
accordingly,  which  they  had  directed  him  to 
report  to the House ;  and the same was read,  as 
followeth : 

Reason  for  disagreement 

Because  the 
Amendment  and  the  consequential  omission  of 
new  Clause  D  would  cause  financial  incon­
venience  to  parish  councils,  and  would  operate  to 
disfranchise  occupiers  who  pay  parish  rates  by 
instalments  along  with  rent. 

The  said  Reason,  being  read  a  second  time, 

was  agreed  to. 

Ordered,  That  a  Message be  sent  to  the  Lords 
to  communicate  the  said  Reason  (with  the  Bill 
and  Amendments)  :  And  that  the  Clerk  do carry 
the  same. 

Adjournment. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn  till 

Wednesday  next.—(Mr.  Joseph Pease.) 

A nd  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  two  minutes  before  Nine 
of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  Wednesday 
next. 

[No.  177.] 

Wednesday, 1 st December 1909. 

The  House met at a quarter of  an hour 
before Three  of the clock. 

Parliamentary 
Papers 
(Recess.) 

P R A Y E R S. 

THE  following  Paper,  presented  by  His 

Majesty's Command during the Recess, was 
delivered  to  the  Librarian  of  the  House  of 
Commons  during  the  Recess,  pursuant  to  the 
Standing Order of the 14th August  1896 :— 

Trade Beports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

Copies  of  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Reports, 

Annual  Series, Nos. 4382 and 4385. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Sydney Buxton presented, pursuant  to the Post Office 
directions  of  an  A ct   of  Parliament,—Account  Telegraphs 
showing the gross amount received and expended Telephones.) 
on account  of the Telegraph  Service during the 
j^o. 321. 
year  ended  31st  March  1909,  and  the  balance 
of  the  expenditure  over  the  receipts,  prepared 
in  pursuance  of  the  Telegraph  (Money)  Act, 
1876;  and a Statement additional  to  the  above 
Account. 

Ordered, That  the said  Paper  do lie  upon the 

Table ;  and be printed. 

Mr.  Hobhouse  presented,  pursuant  to  the Superannua­
directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of tion Act<1887­
Treasury  Minute  under  the  Superannuation 
Act,  1887, dated 23rd  November  1909, granting 
a  retired  allowance  to  Mr.  Edwin  Hampden 
Laurie,  First  Class  Clerk,  Supplementary 
Establishment,  Secretary's  Office, Post Office. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do lie upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Burns  presented, by  His  Majesty's  Com- Births, Deaths, 
mand,—Copy  of  Seventy-first  Annual  Report and Marriages, 
of the Registrar  General  of  Births,  Deaths, and 
Marriages  in England and Wales,  1908. 

Mr.  Burns  also  presented,  pursuant  to  the  Local 

directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
the Annual Local Taxation Returns for 1907-8.  (England and 
Part  II. 

Wales.) 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the  N o-  3 2 2, 

Table;  and  that  the  Paper  relative  to  Local 
Taxation  Returns  (England  and  Wales)  be 
printed. 

Sir  Edward  Strachey  presented,  by  His  Board of 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Annual  Report 
of  the  Intelligence  Division  of  the  Board  of 
Agriculture  and Fisheries.  Part  II.,  Proceed­
ings  under  the  Destructive  Insects  and  Pests 
Acts,  1877  and  1907,  and  Section  2,  subsec­
tion (3),  of the Board  of  Agriculture Act,  1889, 
for the year 1908. 

Ordered, That the said Paper  do  lie upon the 

Table. 

Mr.  Runciman  presented, — Return  to  an Fee-charging 
Order,  dated  the  27th  day  of  October  last, for g®^fsaJ|ree 
Returns  relative  to  Fee-charging  Secondary places.) 
Schools (Free Places). 

No. 323. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant 

Factory  and 
Workshop Acts  t 0  the  directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament, 
wSkiCandrSOf  —Copy  Of  Order,  dated  15th  November  1909, 
made  by the  Secretary  of  State for  the  Home 

Mr.  Runciman  also  presented,  pursuant  to Greenwich 
the directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,— Hospital Act, 
Copy  of  Order  in  Council,  of  22nd  November 
1909,  under  the Greenwich Hospital Act,  1865, 

N & O T .]  9  TOW.  V I I. 

1 st-

December. 


Merchant
?™?p.!?§
1894 and  1906. 

approving  a  Memorial  of  the  Lords  Commis­
sioners of  the Admiralty. 

Copy  of  Three  Orders  in  Council,  dated 
22nd  November  1909,  under  the  Merchant 
Shipping  Aets,  1894  and  1906,  exempting 
Preach and Swedish Ships, while within piorts  of 
the United Kingdom, from certain provisions  of 
the Merchant Shipping Acts,  1894 and 1906. 

Naval and 
Marine Fay 
and  Pensions 
Act,, 1865. 

Copy  of  Two  Orders  in  Council  under  the 
Naval  and  Marine  Pay  and  Pensions  Act,  1865, 
dated 22nd November 1909, approving Memorials 
of the Lords Commissioners  of the Admiralty. 

Ordered, That the said Papers  do lie upon the 

Table j  and that the said Return be printed. 

Bast India 
(State 
Prisoners.) 

The  Master  of  Elibank  presented,—Return 
to an Address  to  His  Majesty, dated  the  23rd 
day of  November  last, for a  Return  relative to 
East India (State Prisoners). 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Return  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Tramways 
and Light 
Railways 
(Street and 
Road.) 

No. 324. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented, —  Return  to  an 
Order,  dated  the  5th  day  of  April  last,  for a 
Return  relative  to Tramways and  Light  Rail­
ways (Street and Road). 

Ordered,  That the  said  Return  do lie  upon the 

Table;  and be  printed. 

Royal: Irish 
Constabulary. 
No. 325. 

Government 
Depstrtments 
(Ireland.) 

No. 326. 

Mr. Birrell  presented, — Return  to an, Order, 
dated  the  25th  day  of  November  last,  for  a 
Return relative to the Royal Irish Constabulary. 
Return  to  an  Order,  dated  the  8th  day  of 
September last, for a Return relative to Govern­
ment Departments (Ireland). 

Ordered,  That  the said  Returns  do lie upon the 

Table;  and  be  printed. 

Inquiry  into 
Charities 
(County  of 
Devon.) 

No. 327. 
Inquiry  into 
Charities 
(County  of 
Berks.) 

No. 328. 

Message from 
the Lords. 

Police 
(Liverpool 
Inquiry) BilL 
Customs and 
Inland 
Revenue  Bill. 

Isle of  Man 
(Customs) 
Bill. 
Expiring  Laws 
Continuance 
Bill. 

Irish  Land 
BilL 

Development 
and  Road 
Improvement 
Funds BiB. 

The  following  Papers  were  kid  upon  the 

Table  by the Clerk  of the House 

Further  Return  to  an Order, dated  the  26th 
day  of  July  1905,  for  a  Return  relative  to 
Inquiry into Charities (County  of Devon). 

Further Return  to  an  Order, dated  the 28 th 
day  of  March  1905,  for  a  Return  relative  to 
Inquiry into Charities (County  of Berks). 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  be  printed. 

Mr.  Speaker  acquainted  the  House  that  a 
Message  had  been  brought from the  Lords by 
one of their Clerks, as followeth: 

The Lords have agreed  to  the Police  (Liver­

pool Inquiry) Bill, without any  Amendment. 

The Lords  have agreed  to  the Customs  and 
Inland Revenue Bill, without any Amendment. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Isle  of  Man 

(Customs)  Bill,  without  any  Amendment. 

The Lords have agreed  to the Expiring Laws 

Continuance Bill,  without any Amendment. 

The  Lords  have agreed  to the  Amendments 
made by this House to the further Amendments 
made by the Lords to  the  Irish  Land  Bill, and 
to  the consequential  Amendments made by this 
House  to  the  Bill,  without  any  Amendment; 
and  do not insist  on their Amendments to which 
this House hath disagreed. 

The  Lords  have agreed  to  the  Amendments 
made by this  House to  the  Amendments  made 
by  the  Lords  t6  the  Development  and  Road 
Improvement  Funds  Bill, without  any Amend­
ment ;  and  do not insist  on their  Amendments 
to whieh this House hath disagreed. 

VOL. 164. 

The  Lords  have  agreed   to  the  Amendments  Assurance 
made  by  this  House   to  the  Assurance  Com-  B i u r e  t  1 
panies  Rill  [Lards],, without  any  Amendment.  

* r 

1  

Resolved, That  this  House  do now  adjourn.—  Adjournment. 

( The  Prime  Minister.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con­

tinued  to  sit  till  half  an  hour  after  Three  

of  the  clock,  adjourned  till  to-morrow.  


[No.  178.] 

Thursday, 2nd December  1909. 
The House met at a quarter of an hour 

before Three  of the clock. 


P R A Y ER   S. 

fyR  D ERED, 

East  India  (State  Prisoners),  which  was 
-
•  -

That  the  Return  relative  to  East India 

,


-   I f 

-

-
presented  upon  the  1st  day  of 
December, be printed. 

• 

j.  ^  Prisoners.) 
this  instant  N o.  3 3 0. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane  presented,  by  His  Army. 

Majesty's  Command,—Copy  of  Second  Report 
by the  Director  General, Army  Medical  Service, 
on  the  Transmission  of  Enteric  Fever   by  the 
"  Chronic  Carrier." 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Churchill presented,  by  His  Majesty's Trade 
Command, — Copy  of  Abstract  and  detailed (Foreign 
Countries 
Tables  showing  Countries  of  consignment  of  and British 
Imports  and  Countries  of  ultimate  destination Possessions.) 
of Exports (Supplement to Vols. I.  and II.)« 

Mr.  Churchill also presented,—Return  to  an  United 
Order, dated  the  23ra  day of  September  last, Kingdom 
for Returns relative to United  Kingdom (Trade, Commerce, 
Commerce, and Condition of People). 	

(Trade, 

and  Condition 
of  People.) 

No. 329. 

Mr.  Churchill also presented, pursuant  to  the West 
directions of several Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy Highland 
Railway 
of  Eighth  Annual  Report  by  the  Board  of (Extension 
Trade  as  to  the  condition  and working  of the from Banavie 

Banavie  and  Mallaig  Railway,  the  rates  and to  Mallaig.)  

charges for traffic, and the receipts and expendi- No. 331.  

ture of any company  in working the railway, for 

the year 1908-9. 


Account  of  all  Deposits  received  and repaid Seamen's 

Savings. Banks 
(Money 

by the Board  of  Trade  on  account of Seamen's 
Savings  Banks  under  the  Merchant  Shipping Orders and 
Act,  1894, during the year  ended  20th  Novem-Transmission 
ber 1908, and of the interest thereon ;  Statement 
showing  the  number  and  amount  of  Seamen's 
Money Orders issued  and  paid  at  Ports  in the 
Unitea  Kingdom  and  at  Ports  Abroad from 
1855  to  31st  March  190.9;  also  Statement 
showing the receipts and payments in connection 
with  the  Transmission  of  Seamen's  Wages, 
Home  and  Foreign,  from  1878  to  31st  March 
1909. 

of  Wages.) 

No. 332. 

Ordered, That the said Papers do lie upon the 
Table;  and that the said Return, and the Papers 
relative to West  Highland  Railway  (Extension 
from Banavie  to Mallaig) and Seamen's Savings 
Banks  (Money  Orders  and  Transmission  of 
Wages),  be printed. 

The  Lord  Advocate  presented,   by  His  Education 
Majesty's  Command,— Copy  of  Regulations  as (Scotland.) 
to  Grants  to  Secondary  Schools  in  Scotland. 

The Lord Advocate  also  presented, pursuant Motor Car 

to  the  directions  of  an  Act  of  Parliament,— Acta­

4  A 

 
 
546 

2nd December. 

1 9 0 9.  

[No. 178. 

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904. 

for 
Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Secretary 
Scotland  under  the  Motor  Car  Acts,  prohibiting 
Motor  Car  Traffic  on  certain  highways  in  the 
County  of  Renfrew. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Mr.  Hirrell  presented,  pursuant  to  the  direc-
tions  of  an  A ct   of  Parliament,—Copy  of  Order 
made  by  the  Urban  District  Council  of  Kings-
town  under  the  Shop  Hours  Act,  1904,  and 
confirmed  by  the  Lord  Lieutenant  of  Ireland, 
fixing  the  hours  of  closing  for  certain  classes  of 
Shops. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Housing  of  the 
Working 
Glasses  Act. 
1890. 

Local 
Government 
Act,  1888. 

Mr.  Burns  presented,  pursuant  to  the  direc-
tions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament,—Copy  of 
Statement  of  modification  permitted  by  the 
Local  Government  Board, under  the  Housing  of 
the  Working  Classes  Act,   1890,  in  the  London 
(Saint  Luke)  Improvement  Scheme,  1900. 

Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  County  Council 
of  Hertford  under  Section  57  of"  the  Local 
Government  Act,   1888,  as  confirmed  by  the 
Local  Government  Board. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

' 

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904. 

Shop  Hours 
Act,  1904. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,  pursuant 
to  the  directions  of  several  Acts  of  Parliament, 
—Copy  of  Order  made  by  the  Council  of  the 
County  of  Stafford  under  the  Shop  Hours  Act, 
1904,  a,nd  confirmed  by  the  Secretary  of  State 
for  the  Home  Department,  fixing  the  hours  of 
closing 
in  the 
for  certain  classes  of  Shops 
Darlaston  Urban  District. 

Copies  of  Orders  made  by  the  Council  of   the 
West.  Riding  of  Yorkshire  under  the  Shop 
Hours  Act,   1904,  and  confirmed  by  the  Secre-
tary  of  State  for  the  Home  Department,  fixing 
the  hours  of  closing  for  certain  classes of  Shops 
within  the  Urban  Districts  of  Hebden  Bridge, 
Mirfield,  and  Birstal. 

Polling 
Districts 
(County  of 
Suffolk.) 

Copy  of. Order  made  by  the  County  Council 
the  Stowupland 

of  West  Suffolk,  dividing 
Polling  District  into  two  Polling  Districts. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Papers  do  lie  upon  the 
. 

.  , 

Table. 

House of 
Lords. 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-
sented  to His  Majesty, that He   will be  graciously 
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before  this  House  a Return  of  the  number  of 
Peers  in  the  House  of  Lords  at  the  time  of 
passing  the first Reform Bill  in  1832, the  number 
of  persons  who  have  been  made  Peers  since  then 
up  to  the  present  date,  and  by  whom  they  were 
made  Peers.—(Mr.  Steadman.) 

Deaths from 

The  Order  made  on  the  l l th   day  of  March 
° r  last,  for  "presenting  an  Address  for  a  Return 
Privation 
relative  to  Deaths  from  Starvation,  or  accel-
(Englandand  erated  by  Privation  (England  and  Wales),  was 
Wales.) 

read  and  discharged. 

Deaths  from 
Ordered,  That  there be  laid  before  this  House 
Starvation,  or  a  Return  of  the  number  of  Deaths  in  England 
Privletkmdby  a n d  Wales,  in  the  year  1908,  upon  which  a 
(England  and  coroner's jury  has  returned  a  verdict  of  Death 
from  Starvation,  or  Death  accelerated  by  Pri-
w^ies.) 
vation ; together with any  observations  furnished 
to  the  Local  Government  Board  by  boards  of 
guardians  with  reference  to  cases  included  in 
the  Return.—(Mr.  Burns.) 

•.r-.i 

i:- 

Resolved,  That  an  humble  Address  be  pre-King's   Bench 

sented  to His  Majesty, that He  will  be  graciously  J u d g e s-
pleased  to  give  directions  that  there  be  laid 
before  this  House  a  Return  showing,  for  the 
year  1908,  in  the  case  of  each  Judge  of  the 
King's  Bench  Division,  the  number  of  days  on 
which  he  was  absent  from  the  King's  Bench 
Division  to  go  on  Circuit,  and  the  number  of 
days  on  which  he  sat  at  Assizes  for  the  trial  of 
prisoners  or  of  civil  cases.—(Mr 

.Masterman.) 

Ordered,  That  there  be laid  before  this  House  Post Office 
a  Copy  of  an  Agreement,  dated  the  29th  day  Telegraphs, 
of  September  1909,  between  His  Majesty's 
Postmaster  General  and  Marconi's  Wireless 
Telegraph  Company,  Limited,  and  the  Marconi 
International  Marine  Communication  Company, 
Limited, and of  an  Agreement,  dated the  1st day 
of  December  1909,  between 
the  Postmaster 
General  and  Lloyds,  with  reference  to  the  pur-
chase  of  Wireless  Telegraph  Stations.—-(Mr. 
Sydney  Buxton.) 

, 

: J 

Mr.  Haldane  reported  from  the  Select  C o m -H i gh   Court 

mittee  appointed  to  join  with  a  Committee  of  °f  Justice 
the  House  of  Lords  on  the  High  Court  of  b i S? 
Justice 
(King's  Bench  Division);  That  they 
had  considered  the  matters  to  them  referred, 
and  directed  him  to  make  a  Report  thereof  to 
the  House,  with  the  Minutes  of  Evidence  taken 
before  them,  and  an  Appendix. 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  No.  333. 

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Colonel  Lockwood  reported  from  the  Select  House  of 

Committee  on  the  House  of  Commons  (Kitchen 
and  Refreshment  Rooms)  ;  That  they  had  con- RefrLhment 
sidered 
directed  him  to  make  a  Report  thereof  to  the 
House. 

them  referred,  and  Booms.) 

the  matters  to 

Ordered,  That  the  Report  do  lie  upon  the  No.  334. 

T a b l e;   and  be  printed. 

A  Motion  was  made,  and  the  Question  being  House  of" 
put,  That  the  action  of  the  House  of  Lords  in  Lords  (Refusal 
refusing  to  pass into  Law  the  financial  provision  pj^ancc  Bill) 
made  by  this  House  for  the  Service  of  the  year 
is a breach of  the  Constitution, and  an usurpation 
of  the  rights  of  the  Commons—(The  Prime 
Minister); 

The  House  divided. 

The  Yeas  to  the  R i g h t;  
The  Noes  to  the  Left. 
Tellers  for  the f Mr.  Joseph  Pease, 

Yeas, 
n 

„ 

I Captain  Norton  : 
("Sir  Alexander  Acland-

Tellers  for  the  I 

j j 0 0 (j y 

.Noes, 

[Viscount  Valentia  : 

So  it  was  resolved  in  the  Affirmative. 

349. 

134. 

. 

Mr.  Secretary  Gladstone  presented,—Return  House of 
to  an  Address to  His  Majesty, dated  the  2nd day  Lords.  . 
of  this  instant  December,  for  a  Return  relative  No.  335. 
to  the  House  of  Lords. 

Return  to  an  Address  to  His  Majesty,  dated  King's  Bench 

the  2nd  day  of  this,  instant  December,  for  a J u d§ e s-
Return  relative  to  King's  Bench  Judges, 

No.  336. 

Ordered,That 

the  said  Returns  do  lie  upon 

the  Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Mr.  Bums  presented,—Return  to  an  Order,  Deaths from 
dated  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant  December,  for  Starvation,  or 
a  Return  relative  to  Deaths  from  Starvation,  or  p 0^ ® ^^  by 
accelerated  by  Privation  (England  and  Wales).  
(England  and 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Return  do  lie  upon  the 

T a b l e;   and  be  printed. 

No. 178.]  9  E D W.  VII. 

2nd—3rd  December. 

547 

Post Office 
Telegraphs. 

No.  338. 

Mr.  Sydney  Buxton  presented, —  Return  to 
an  Order,  dated  the  2nd  day  of  this  instant 
December,  for  a Return  relative  to  Post  Office 
Telegraphs. 

Ordered,  That  the said  Return  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Adjournment. 

Resolved,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn  till 
to-morrow,  at  Two  of  the  clock.—(Mr.  Joseph 
Pease.) 

And  accordingly  the  House,  having  con-
tinued  to  sit 
twenty-six  minutes 
before  Six  of  the  clock,  adjourned  till 
to-morrow. 

till 

[ N o.   1 7 9 .] 

Friday, 3rd December  1909. 

The  House  met  at  Two  of  the  clock. 

P R A T E R S. 

Public 
Petitions. 
Vide  Supple-
ment  to 
Fifth  Report. 

Trade  Reports 
(Annual 
Series.) 

SE V E R AL   Public  Petitions  were  presented, 

and  read;  and  ordered  to  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

Secretary  Sir  Edward  Grey  presented,  by 
His  Majesty's  Command,;—Copies  of  Diplomatic 
and  Consular Reports,  Annual  Series,  Nos.  4386 
and  4387. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table. 

General 
Lighthouse 
Fund. 

No.  339. 

Mr.  Churchill  presented,  pursuant  to 

the 
directions  of  an  A ct   of  Parliament,—Account 
of  the  General  Lighthouse  Fund,  showing  the 
income  and  expenditure 
for  the  year  ended 
31st  March  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  do  lie  upon  the 

Table  ;  and  be  printed. 

Parliamentary 
Papers. 

No.  340. 

Mr.  Speaker  laid  upon  the  Table, —  List  of 
the  Bills,  Reports,  Estimates,  and  Accounts  and 
Papers  printed  by  Order  of  the  House,  and  of 
Papers  presented  by  Command,  Session  1909, 
with a General Alphabetical  Index  thereto ;  28th 
Parliament,  Fourth  Session,  9th  Edward  V I I ., 
16th  February  1909  to  3rd  December  1909. 

Ordered,  That  the  said  Paper  be  printed. 

High  Court 
of  Justice 
(King's  Bench 
Division) 
(Sittings.) 

The  Order  made  upon  the  2oth  day  of  May 
last,  That  there  be  laid  before  this  House  a 
Return  relative  to  the  High  Court  of  Justice 
(King's  Bench  Division)  (Sittings), was read  and 
discharged.—(Mr.  Soam.es.) 

Royal  Assent. 

A  Message  was  delivered  by  Admiral  Sir 
Henry  Frederick  Stephenson,  Gentleman  Usher 
of  the  Black  R o d: 

Mr.  Speaker, 

The  Lords  authorised  by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commissions,  for  declaring  His  Royal 
Assent  to  several  Acts  agreed  upon  by  both 
Houses,  and  for  proroguing  the  present  Par-
liament,  desire  the  immediate  attendance  of  this 
Honourable  House  in  the  House  of  Peers,  to 
bear  the  Commissions  read. 

Accordingly  Mr.  Speaker,  with  the  House, 
went  up  to  the  House  of  Peers,  where  a  Com-
mission  under  the  Great  Seal  was read,  giving, 
declaring,  and  notifying  the  Royal Assent  to  the 
several  Acts  therein  mentioned;  and  the  Lords 
thereby  authorised  declared  the  Royal  Assent  to 
the  said  Acts,  as follow  : 

Vox..  164. 

|  1.  Housing,  Town  Planning,  &c.  A c t,   1909. 
2.  Asylum  Officers'  Superannuation  Act, 

1909. 

3.  Irish  Land  A c t,   1909. 
4.  Revenue  Act,  1909. 
5.  Development  and  Road 

Funds  Act,  1909. 

Improvement 

6.  Isle  of  Man  (Customs)  Act,  1909. 
7.  Expiring  Laws  Continuance  Act,  1909. 
8.  Assurance  Companies  Act,  1909. 

And  afterwards,  His  Majesty's  most  Gracious  King's  Speech. 

Speech  was  delivered  to  both  Houses  of  Par-
(in 
liament  by 
pursuance  of  His  Majesty's  Commands),  as 
followeth  : 

the  Lord  High  Chancellor 

My  Lords,  and  Gentlemen, 

The  official visit  which  His  Majesty  the  King 
of  Portugal  has  paid  to  Me,  on  the  occasion  of 
his  accession,  has  afforded  to  the  Queen  and 
Myself  great  pleasure,  and  has  consolidated 
and  strengthened  the  bonds  of  friendship  which 
have  so long  and  happily  united  the  two  allied 
nations. 

My  relations  with  foreign  Powers  continue  to 

be  friendly. 

The  difficulties  which,  unfortunately,  arose  in 
South-Eastern  Europe  in  the  autumn  of  last 
year  have  happily  resulted in  a practical  solution 
and  in  the  maintenance  of  peace,  while  the 
constitutional  regime  in  the  Turkish  Empire 
continues  to  make  satisfactory  progress. 

Subject  to  certain  reservations  made  by  My 
Plenipotentiaries  at  the  time  of  signature,  I 
have  ratified  such  of  the  Conventions  which 
resulted  from  the  Peace  Conference  held  at 
The  Hague  in  1907  as do  not  require  municipal 
legislation  in  this- country  to  give  effect  to  their 
provisions. 

Arbitration  Conventions and  Agreements  with 
Germany,  Sweden,  Norway,  Switzerland,  and 
Portugal  have  been  renewed  for  a further  term 
of  five  years.  Others, which  are about to expire, 
are  in  process  of  renewal. 

A  measure for improving  Indian  administration 
by  enlarging  the  numbers  and  extending  the 
functions  of  the  various  Legislative  Councils 
has  become  Law,  duly  supplemented  by  the 
necessary  Regulations. 

Early  in  the  coming  year  the  Councils  will 
have  been  constituted,  and  will  undertake  the 
burden  of  their  new  responsibilities. 

I 

look  with  confidence  for  their  loyal  co-
operation  with  My   appointed  officers  in  the 
tasks  of  Government,  thus  furthering  the  moral 
and  material  progress  of  My   'Indian  subjects, 
and  strengthening 
foundations  of  My 
the 
Empire. 

I  have,  with  the  greatest  satisfaction,  as-
sented  to  the  A ct   establishing  the  Union  of 
South  Africa,  which  embodies  the  united  wishes 
of  the  Parliaments  of  the 
four  constituent 
Colonies. 

This  fruit  of  the  success  which  has  attended 
the  grant of  free institutions  to  My  new  Colonies 
is,  I  am  assured,  a matter  of  cordial  congratula-
tion  throughout  My   Dominions. 

I  cannot  doubt  that  union  will  add  to  the 
strength  of  South  Africa,  and  I  pray  that  its 
people  may  be  blessed  in  the  years  to  come  with 
growing  prosperity  and  lasting  concord. 

The  important  Conference  which  met  in  July 
last  for  the  exchange  of  views  between  My 
Government  and  the  Governments  of  My   self-
governing  Dominions  beyond  the  seas upon  the 

4  A  2 

548 

23rd N o v e m b e r. 

1909. 

[No. 174. 

subject  of  naval  and  military defence  has  been 
of  great  mutual  advantage, and  as  the outcome 
of  its  deliberations 
it  may  confidently  be 
expected  that  the  stability  of  My  Dominions 
will  be preserved and their unity promoted. 

The  measure  which  has  been  passed  for  the 
constitution of Trade Boards in certain industries 
will,  I  hope, with judicious administration, prove 
a valuable  boon  to  a  specially helpless  class  of 
workers. 

Gentlemen  of the House  of Commons, 

I  thank you  for  the  liberality  and  care with 

which you  provided  for  the  heavy  additions  to 
the national expenditure  due to the requirements 
of  imperial defence and social reform. 

I  regret  that  that  provision  has  proved 

unavailing. 

My  Lords, and Gentlemen, 

An  Irish Land Act  has been passed which, by 
relieving local funds from liabilities arising under 
previous  Purchase  Acts,  and  by increasing  the 
administrative  area  and  the  resources  of  the 
Congested Districts Board, will, I sincerely hope, 
conduce  both  to  the  general  welfare  of  the 
country  and  to  a  permanent  improvement  in 
the condition of the occupiers  of  small  holdings 
in the West  of Ireland. 

I  have watched with interest  the  progress  of 
a measure, which has now  been  placed upon the 
Statute  Book,  for  facilitating  the  Housing  of 
the Working  Classes, and  for strengthening  the 
Law dealing  with the sanitary conditions  under 
which they live. 

This  measure  also  contains long-needed pro­
visions for controlling the development of Towns, 
with  a  view  to  securing  not  only  improved 
sanitary  conditions,  but  also  amenity  and  con­
venience. 

I  have  given  My  assent  to  a  Bill  for  the 
establishment  of  Labour Exchanges,  which will, 
I  trust,  be  an important step towards the  better 
regulation  of  the Labour Market, and a founda­
tion  for  further  measures for dealing effectively 
with some of  the evils  of unemployment. 

I  anticipate  beneficial results  to  agriculture, 
and  to  the rural industries  of  the country, from 
the  measure  for  the  economic  development  of 
the United  Kingdom,  and for  the  improvement 
of roads. 

I  have had pleasure  in  assenting  to  a  Bill  to 
give  effect  to  a  Treaty  which  secures  the  full 
benefits  of  the  French  Law  of  Workmen's 
Compensation  to British  workmen injured  in the 
course of their employment  in France. 

Important Bills have also been  passed dealing 

with  Trawling  in  prohibited  areas,  the  con­
solidation  and  amendment  of  the  Law  relating 
to  Assurance  Companies,  the  suppression  of 
Gambling  on  loss  by  maritime  perils,  and  the 
amendment  of the Electric  Lighting  Acts. 

I  thank  you for the zeal with which you have 
discharged your arduous and  protracted labours, 
and  I  pray that  they may  be  rewarded  by the 
blessing  of Almighty God. 

Then a Commission for proroguing the Parlia­

ment was read. 

After which the Lord  Chancellor said : 

My  Lords, and Gentlemen, 

By  virtue  of  His  Majesty's  Commission 
under  the  Great  Seal,  to  us  and  other  Lords 
directed,  and now read,  we do,  in  His Majesty's 
Name, and in obedience to  His  Commands, pro­
rogue  this  Parliament to  Saturday the  fifteenth 
day  of  January  one  thousand  nine  hundred 
and  ten,  to  be  then  here  holden;  and  this 
Parliament  is accordingly  prorogued to Saturday 
the  fifteenth  day  of  January  one  thousand 
nine hundred and ten. 

I  N  D  E  X 

TO  THE 

ONE  HUNDRED  AND  SIXTY-FOURTH 
VOLUME. 


Session  1909. 

9  Edw.  VIL  Pari.  28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

A B E R D E EN   HARBOUR  ORDER  CONFIRMATION   ;  Bill  to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Private 
Legislation  Procedure (Scotland) Act,  1899,  relating  to Aberdeen  Harbour;  read  the  first time, and ordered (under 
Section  9 of the Act)  to be  read  a second time, 401.  Bill read  a  second time, and  day appointed  for  consideration, 
420.  Considered,  as  amended,  423.  Bill  read  the  third  time  and passed, 428.  Agreed  to  by the  Lords, without 
(Cited as Aberdeen Harbour  Order Confirmation  Act,  1909) Royal Assent,  447. 
Amendment, 443. 

A B S E NT  VOTERS   ;  Bill  to facilitate the recording  of  Votes  at  Parliamentary  Elections  byfishermen,sailors, and other 
persons liable to  habitual absence from their  usual residence  in pursuit  of  their calling ;  presented, and ordered  to  be 
read a second time, 91. 

ACCESS  to  MOUNTAINS  (Scotland);  Bill  to  secure  to the public  the right  of  Access  to Mountains and Moorlands  in 

Scotland;  presented, and ordered to be read a second time, 20.  Second Reading  deferred,  149. 

ACCIDENTS  in  M I N ES  ;  Motion, That,  in  view  of  the  number  of  fatal and  non-fatal Accidents  in  Mines, this House 

is  of opinion that a considerable improvement  in the safety  of  Mines might  be secured,  &c.,  &c.;  withdrawn,  130. 

A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S: 

Ordered. 

Presented.

A B E R D E EN  U N I V E R S I T Y;  V.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  1 1 5 3,  1 1 5 4. 

ACCIDENTS,  R A I L W AY  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  8 2 6 - 8 3 1. 

ACCOUNTS  AND  ESTIMATES   (East  India);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  260,  267,  271, 273. 

ADJOURNMENT  MOTIONS  UNDER  STANDING  O R D ER  NO.

  1 0   : — 

1.  Return  of Motions for Adjournment under Standing Order No.  10 in Session 1 

printed 523-

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(Sess. Papers, No.  S! 

513 

523

A F R I CA   : — 

2.  Further Correspondence relating  to Preservation  of Wild  Animals  -

No.  1,  1909: 

3.  Further Correspondence respecting Taxation  of Natives  in the Congo State 

No.  2,  1909 : 

4.  Further Correspondence respecting Taxation  of Natives  in the Congo State 

No.  3,  1909: 

5.  Despatch from Zanzibar transmitting new Slavery Decree 

No.  4 ,  1 9 09  : 

6.  Despatch furnishing Report  on Zanzibar 

AGRARIAN  OUTRAGES  

(Ireland):— 

7.  Return relative thereto;  printed  60  -

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 

VOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909. 

4  A  3 

44

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248

391

430

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to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME. 

550 

A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S —   c o n t i n u e d. 

A G R I C U L T U R AL  STATISTICS  (Ireland)•.— 

8.  Agricultural  Statistics for 1908	 

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9.  Table showing the extent  in  Statute Acres and the produce  of  the Crops for 1908 

10.  Abstracts showing acreage under Crops, number  of  Live  Stock, &c., for  1908-9 

Agricultural  Labourers: 

11.  Report and Tables relating  to Irish Agricultural  Labourers, for 1908-9  ­

A G R I C U L T U RE  AND  FISHERIES,  B O A RD   OF  ,•  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  7 0 - 8 2.  


A L E X A N D RA  D O C K,  N E W P O RT  ( M O N M O U T H .)  ;  v.  A C C O U N T S,  NO.  2 3 9. 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

j  King's 
|  Command. 
(  King's 
j Command. 
j  King's 
1 Command. 

(  King's 
)  Command. 

5 13 

122 

446 

486 

A L I E NS  ;   » .  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  3 3 8. 

A L I E NS  A C T,  1 9 05   : — 

12.  Third Annual Report, for the year  1908

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-

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-

13.	  Return  of  Alien  Passengers  brought  to  the  United  Kingdom  during  the  three) 
months ending 31st December  1908, with number of Expulsion Orders for the same > 
period

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_ 

I 

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_

_

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-

-

-

-

-

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14.	  Ditto 

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-  ditto 

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15.	  Ditto 

16.  Ditto 

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-  ditto 

-  ditto 

-

-

A L I E NS   (Naturalisation)  :— 

-  ending  31st March  1909, with  number of  Expulsion i 
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Orders for the same period  -

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-

-

-  ending  30th June  1909,  with  number  of  Expulsion ) 
-J 

Orders for the same period  -

- 

-

-

-  ending  30th  September  1909,  with  number  of | 
- J 

Expulsion  Orders for the same period  -

-

17.  Return relative thereto;  printed 42 

-

-

-

- 

(Sess.  Papers, No.  52.) 

A L K A L I,  & c.  W O R KS  R E G U L A T I ON	   A C T,  1 9 0 6 :— 

18.  Forty-fifth  Annual  Report  of  the  Inspector  under  the  Act,  being  for  1908;) 
(Sess.  Papers, No. 170.) J 	

printed 206

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-

-

-

-

-

-

(  King's 
| Command, 

King's

Command 

(Recess). 


King's

Command. 


Command. 

j  by  Address, 
i 

26 

by  Act. 

•3 

A M B U L A N C  E  S E R V I C  E  IN  THE  METROPOLIS   (Departmental  Committee)  :— 

J 9.  Report  of the Committee 

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-

-

Command. 

A N C I E N  T  MONUMENTS  (Scotland)  (Royal  Commission)  :— 
• 

20.  First Report  of the Commissioners 

A R B I T R A T I ON  ( Treaties)  (Miscellaneous, No.   9 ,  1 9 0 9  )   : — 

21.  Return relative thereto­

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-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

ARDROSSAN  AND  B E L F A ST  M A IL

  S E R V I CE   : — 

22.  Contract and Treasury  Minute relating thereto;  printed 23 

(Sess.  Papers,  No. 39.) 

A R K L OW  H A R B O UR   : — 

23.  Report  of the Harbour  Commissioners, with Accounts, for 1908 

-	

A R M Y :— 

24.	  Draft  Order  in  Council  defining  Duties  of  Assistant  Financial  Secretary  of  the) 
) 

War  Office 

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25.  General Annual Report for the year ending 30th  September  1908  -

-

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26.  Draft Order in Council relating  to Military Manoeuvres  -

-	

27.  Instructions for Foreign Officers travelling  in Germany

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-

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28.	  Return showing Strength  of Army in January 1909,  as compared with October 1905, i 

&c.	 

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- ( 

29.  Amended  Scheme  in respect  of  certain Territorial  Force Associations 

30.	  Memorandum  on the Transmission  of Enteric Fever  by the "  Chronic Carrier  " 

31.  Report  of the Advisory  Board, London  School  of  Economics,  on  the  Third  Course ) 
- j 
32.  Memorandum  on the existing Army  System and state  of  the  Military  Forces  in the ) 

for the Training  of Officers	

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-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Kingdom 

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-	

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. ) 

33.  Further Rules  of  Procedure for Courts-Martial  and Rules for Military Prisons 

34.  Revised  Scheme  in respect  of  Territorial Force Association for East  Riding 

-

|  King',

Command,  i 

f  King's
I Command in 
<j  pursuance  of 

437 

2 1 

i  Act. 

King's
Command. 

Command. 

by  Act. 

Command. 

King's
Command.

•Act.

Command, 

King's
Command.

Command.

j  King's
|  Command. 
(  King's
j Command. 

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ARMY—continued. 

35.  Interim Report  of Advisory  Committee for Aeronautics 

36.  Second Report  on the Transmission  of  Enteric  Fever  by the "  Chronic  Carrier" 

Annual	  Bill: 

37.  Memorandum showing Amendments  of  Army Act proposed  by Section  4 

Ordered. 

f  King's
| Command. 
King's 

Command, 

Appropriation  Account: 

38.	  Appropriation  Account  of  the  sums  granted  by  Parliament  for  Army  Services) 
for  the  year  1907-8,  with  Reports  of  the  Comptroller  and  Auditor  General ; > 
printed 7;  referred to a Committee of the whole House, 333 (Sess. Papers, No.  15.) j 

by  Aot. 

Clothing  Factory: 

39.	  Annual  Accounts  of  the  Army  Clothing  Factory  for  1907-8,  with  Report  of i 
(Sess.  Papers,  No.  18.) J 

the Comptroller and Auditor General;  printed 8 

- 

-

Commissions  (Promotions from  the Ranks) : 

40.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 218 

-	

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  178.) 

Estimates (1909-10): 

41.  Army  Estimates  of  Effective  and  Non-effective  Services  for  the year ending 31st) 
- I 
-
(Sess.  Papers,  No.  28.) j 

March 1910 ;  referred to the Committee  of  Supply,  29 ;  printed" 17 

- 

Estimates,  Memorandum  on-. 

42.  Memorandum relating to the Army Estimates for 1909-10 

Medical  Department: 

43.  Report  of the Department for 1908 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Military  Savings  Banks  : 

44.	  Statement  of amount due by the  public  to  Depositors  on  31st  March  1907,  and  of) 

Receipts,  Interest,  and  Disbursements  during  the year ended  31st  March  1908 
(Sess. Papers, No.  I.) j 
printed
6

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

< Act. 

\	 

1 76 

Command. 

(  King's 
j Command. 

|  King's
| Command. 

by  Act. 

—  V. also  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  6 3 7. 

Military  Works: 

45.	  Approximate  Estimate  of  Expenditure  for  1909-10  under  the  Military  Works i 
-) 

Acts,  1897,  1899,  1901, and 1903 

Ordnance Factories: 

46.	  Annual  Accounts  of  the  Ordnance  Factories  for  1907-8,  with  Report  of  the | 
(Sess. Papers,  No.  16.) I 

Comptroller and Auditor General;  printed 7  - 

by  Act. 

Ordnance Factories  (Appropriation  Account) : 

47.	  Appropriation  Account  of  the  sums  granted  by  Parliament  for  the  Ordnance) 
Factories for the year ended 31st  March  1908, with Report  of the Comptroller and > 
(Sess.  Papers,  No.  17.) ) 
Auditor General;  printed 7  -

- 

-

-

-

-

Ordnance Factories (Estimate,  1909-10)  : 

48.	  Estimate  of  the  sum  required for  the year ending 31st  March  1910,  to  defray the) 
expense  of  the  Ordnance  Factories;  referred  to  the  Committee  of  Supply,  98;>
(Sess.  Papers, No.  92.)) 
printed 98 

- 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

by  Act. 

King's 

Pay,  Non-effective Pay,  and Allowances: 

49.	  List  of Exceptions sanctioned during the year 1908-9 

-

Prize  Money and Legacy  Funds  (Chelsea  Hospital)-,  v. Accounts,  No.  133. 

Promotions: 

•50.  Return relative thereto ;	  printed 425 

- 

(Sess.  Papers,  No. 275.) 

Command. 

232 

by  Address, 

420 

425 

Public Accounts (Army  Votes);  v. Accounts,  No. 795. 

Reserve: 

51.  Further Regulations relating  to the Army  Reserve (including  Special Reserve) 

by  Act. 

336 

Special Pensions: 

52.  Return, for year ended 31st March  1909,  of Pensions specially granted 

Special  Reserve: 

53.  Statement showing Strength  on 1st March  1909,  &c.

54.  Statement relative  to Officers and Men ­

Territorial  Force: 

55.  Annual Return  of  the Territorial Force for 1908 

YOL. 164.  •Sess.  1909. 

4  B  2 

King'* 

Command. 


I  Command. 
(  King's 
( Command. 

232 

87 

224 

Command. 

26 

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Ordered. 

Presented. 

A R U N D EL  P O R T :— 

56.  Annual Report and General  Account  of  the Commissioners for the year ended 25th ; 
-

March 1909 

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-

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A S H A N T EE  (Colonial Reports) ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  168. 

ASSIZES  ;  'v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  1 1 7 5,  1 1 7 6. 

A U S T R IA  AND  H U N G A RY   (Treaty  Series) ;  v.   ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1 1 0 6. 

B A H A M AS  (Colonial Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1 7 8. 

B A N K I NG  AND  R A I L W A  Y  STATISTICS  (IrelandF):— 

57.  Report thereon for the half-year ended 31st December  1908 

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- •  ­

58.  Ditto 

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ditto 

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30th June  1909 

B A N  K  OF  E N G L A N D :  — 

59.	  Accounts  of Exchequer Bills,  &c., and of  sums issued for  the payment of Dividends, [ 
(Sess. Papers, No. 24.) i 

&c., for the year ending 5th January 1909 ;  printed  11 

- 

60.	  Applications  to  the  Governor  and  Deputy  Governor  of  the Bank  of  England for j

Advances  to Government, authorised by  Parliament,  from 5th January  1908 to 5th > 
(Sess.  Papers, No. 42.) j 
January 1909 ;  printed 24 

61.  Return  of  the amount of  Notes  issued  more  than  forty years which have not been ^ 
- j 

presented for payment, written off on 27 th October  1909 

-

-

-

-

by  Aet. 

245 

j  K\ng's _ 
| Command. 

1  King's 
| Command. 

111 

465 

by  Aet. 

11 

by  Act. 

'  24 

by  Act. 

531 

BANKRUPTCY   : — 

62.	  Twenty-sixth Annual  Report  by the Board  of  Trade  on  Bankruptcy;  printed  336 > 
(Sess. Papers, No.  237.) I 

by  Act. 

336 

General Rules : 

63.  Rules dated 5th July  1909 

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-

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-

-

. 

. 

. 

by  Act. 

353 

B A N K R U P T CY  A C T,  1 8 83   {Proceedings)  :— 

64.	  Accounts  of  Receipts and Expenditure  in Bankruptcy  Proceedings under  the  Act ( 
(Sess. Papers, No.  123.) i 

during the  year  ended  31st March  1909;  printed  134 

- 

B A N K R U P T CY  COURTS  

{Ireland):— 

65.  Returns  of the Official Assignees  for 1908 

-

BARBADOS  {Colonial Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1 8 2. 

BASUTOLAND  {Colonial  Reports) %  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  160. 

B E C H U A N A L A ND  {Colonial Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  159,	   177. 

B E L F A ST   : — 

Queen's College ;  v. Accounts,  No. 823. 
University  ;  v. Accounts,  No.  493. 

B E L G I UM  {Treaty  Series)  ;  v.  A C C O U N T S , N O.  1 1 2 1. 

BERKS   : — 

Inquiry  into Charities;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  439-442. 

Polling  Districts;  v. Accounts,  No.  724. 

B I L L S,  P R I V A TE  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  N o.  7 8 9. 

BILLS,  P U B L IC  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  7 9 7. 

B I R T H S,  DEATHS,  AND  M A R R I A G ES   : — 

Marriages,  Births,  and Deaths;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  585, 586. 

66.  Seventieth  Annual Report  of the Registrar  General for England and Wales,  1907 

67.  Seventy-first 

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ditto 

- 

ditto 

- 

1908 

Scotland: 

68.  Fifty-third detailed Annual Report (Abstracts  of  1907) -

-

69.	  Fifty-fourth  Annual  Report,  for  1908,  and  Forty-fourth  Annual  Report  on 

Vaccination 

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-

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-

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-

-

-! 

BLACKBECK,  L A N C A S H I RE   {Explosions);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  333. 

BOARD   OF  A G R I C U L T U RE  AND  FISHERIES   : — 

70.	  Annual Report for 1908  of  Proceedings  under  the  Diseases  of  Animals  Acts  and 
- I 
under the Sale  of Food and Drugs Acts and 
the Merchandise Marks Acts and other Acts 

other Acts 

71.	  Ditto 

ditto 

hy  Aet. 

134 

by  Act. 

26 

f  Kilty's
<  Command 
([Recess). 
( 
(  King's 
( Command. 

|  King's 
( Command. 

Ki'rtg's 
Command. 

5 

544 

364 

96 

King's 
Command. 

King's 
Command. 

89 

205 

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ACCOUNTS  AND  PAPERS—continued.  	

Ordered. 

Presented.; 

B O A B D ' OF  A G B I C U L T U EE  AND  F I S H E R I E S —  c o n t i n u e d. 

72.	  Annual  Report for 1908  of Proceedings under the Tithe Acts and other Acts 

73.  Ditto 

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74.  Ditto 

78.  Ditto 

76.  Ditto 

-

-

- 

- 

- 

- 

for 1907 

for 1908 

ditto 

ditto 

for  1908 

ditto 

for 1908 

ditto 

under  the  Acts  relating  to  Sea  Fisheries 

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under  the  Small  Holdings  and  Allotments ) 
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Act  and  other  Acts,  Part	  

I.  -

-

-  ditto 

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-  Part  I I. 

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-

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under  the  Destructive  Insects  and  Pests  	
-

Acts, &c. 

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-

77.  Report  on Researches  on the Plaice Fisheries  of the  North Sea.  Yol.  II. 

78.  Report of  Proceedings at the  Nineteenth Annual  Meeting  of  Authorities  under the j 
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Sea Fisheries Regulation Act,  1888 

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Agricultural Statistics  : 

79.	  Agricultural  Statistics for 1908.  Part  I.,  Acreage and Live  Stock 

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80.  Ditto 

81.  Ditto 

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- f or  1908.  Part  II.,  Produce  of  Crops 

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-  for  1908.  Part III.,  Prices and Supplies  of Corn, &c. -

-

Distribution  of  Grants: 

82.  Annual Report for 1907-8 

-

B O A RD   OF  E D U C A T I O N :— 

83.  Report  on Cheshunt  College  -

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,  -

,  ..-.. 

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•  ' -	

'  '  ­

f 
Kings

|  Command. 
j  King's
| Coirjmand. 

King's 
Command. 

J  King's
) Command. 

King's 
Commands

(  ,  King's
|  Command. 

King's 
Command.

1  King's
(  Command. 
.(  King's
|  Command. 

2 22 

3 60 

4 18 

4 68 

,  5 44 

:  2 58 

4 60 

2 3 

4 5 

1  King's 
|  Comma nd.  . 

4 01 

j  King's
(  Command. 

3 63 

84.  Statistics  of Public Education  in England and Wales, 1906-7-8.  Part II.,  Financial i 	
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Statistics	 

_) 

_ 

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85.	  Report  of Public Inquiry into Oxford Street (Church  of  England)  School,  Swansea 

86.  Report  of the Board  of Education for 1907-8  -

87;  Table  of Expenditure  on Agricultural Education

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88.  Regulations for Training  of  Teachers  of Domestic  Subjects from 1st August 1909  	

89.  Regulations for Certificates under the Children  Act,  1908 

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90.  Regulations  for the Preliminary Education of Elementary School Teachers in England 

91.	  Regulations for the Preliminary  Education  of Elementary  School Teachers  in  Wales ) 
- j 
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and Monmouthshire 

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92.	  Regulations  for  Secondary  Schools  from  1st  August  1909,  excluding  Wales  and) 
-

Monmouthshire  -

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93.	  Regulations for Secondary  Schools from 1st August  1909  in  Wales  and Monmouth- | 
. j 
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shire  -

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. 

. 

. 

. 

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-

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-

-

94.	  Return relative to Students  in Training  Colleges ;  printed 52% 

- i 
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(Sess. Papers,  No.  304.)) 
95.	  Regulations for  Public Elementary  Schools  (excluding  Wales and Monmouthshire),) 
-

1909  -

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

King's

- J  Command. 

96.	  Regulations  for Technical  Schools  of  Art  and  other  forms  of  provision  of  further i 

Education  in England and Wales for the year ending 31st July  1910  -

-

- J 

97.	  Regulations for Training  of Teachers for  Elementary  Schools from 1st August 1909 
98.  Code of  Regulations for  Public  Elementary  Schools  in  Wales  and Monmouthshire, !:1  '	  Command. 
-
-
99.  Syllabus  of Lessons  on Temperance 

1909  - |  -

King's

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-

-
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_ 

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-

-

-

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100.	  Regulations for the Training  of Teachers for Secondary  Schools 

101.	  Report  of Committee  on Attendance  at Continuation  Schools 

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102.	  Reports  on  the  Royal  College  of  Art,  the  Victoria  and  Albert  Museum, and the i 
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Bethnal Green Museum for 1908 

-1 

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-

-

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-

-

103.  Report  on  the  Geological  Survey  and  Museum  in  Jermyn  Street,  the  Science) 
Museum  at  South  Kensington,  and  on  the  Work  of  the  Solar  Physics  Committee, > 
- j 
for  1908: 

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-

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-

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-

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104.	  Regulations  for  Schools  for  Blind,  Deaf,  Defective,  and  Epileptic  Children  from |  King's
-

lst  September  1909	 

Command. 

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105.	  Circular  ap to Regulations for Religious Instruction  in Training  Colleges 

(  King's
,| Command. 

VOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909.	 

4 B 

J  King's

|  Command. 

King's 
Command. 

I  King's
|  Command. 

j  King's
|  Command. 

)  King's
(  Comma/nd, 
[  King's
(  Command. 
(  King's
|  Command. 
(  King's 
1 Command. 

King's
Command, 

King's
Command. 

King's
Command. 

2 3  5 

King's
Command. 

|  King's
j. Command. 

f  King's
1 Command. 
(  '  King's
|  Command. 
|  King's
(  Command. 

King's
Command. 

King's
Command. 

6 

••i  6 

3 4 

5 3 

5 7 

9 8 

111 

1 20 

1 50 

2 06 

2 18 

5 23 

2 51 

2 51 

2 55 

2 62 

2 66 

2 85 

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Presented. 

106.	  Estimated financial effect  of  Changes  in  the  Code  of  Regulations  for  Public i 
( 

Elementary  Schools

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107.  Regulations  providing  for  Special  Grants  in  Aid  of certain  Authorities 

108.  Reports from Universities and University  Colleges  in 1907-8  ­

109.  Statistics  of Public Education,  1907-8.  Part I.,  Educational  Statistics  ­

110.  Memorandum  of  Arrangements with regard to  Agricultural Education 

111.  List  of  Certified  Schools  for  Blind,  Deaf,  and  Epileptic  Children 

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Special  Reports : 

112.  Special Reports on Educational  Subjects.  Yol.  22

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-

-  ditto 

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-

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B O A RD   OF  T R A DE   : — 

Labour  Department : 

114.  Report  on Trade Unions in 1905—7, with  Statistics

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115.  Standard Time Rates  of  Wages  at 1st October 1909 

Labour Department (Changes  in  Wages, Sfc.)  : 

116.	  Report  of the Department  on Changes in Wages and Hours of Labour  in 1908 

Strikes and Lock-outs ;  v. Accounts,  No.  939. 

B O Y C O T T I NG  CASES   (Ireland) :— 

117.  Return relative thereto ;  printed  122 

B O Y C O T T I NG  (Ireland):— 

118.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 43  -

-

-

B R E W E R S'  L I C E N C ES   : — 

-

-

- 

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  116.) 

-

-

- 

(Sess. Papers, No.  57.) 

119.  Return relative thereto  for the year ending 30th September 1908 ;  printed 23  -

- > 

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  41.) j 

B R I D L I N G T ON  P I E RS  AND  HARBOUR   : — 

120.	  Abstract  of  General Annual  Account  of  the  Commissioners  for  the  year  ending > 

26th July  1908 

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B R I T I SH  AN!>  FOREIGN  T R A DE  AND  I N D U S T RY   : — 

121.  Statistical  Tables relating thereto (1854  to 1908)

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B R I T I SH	   M U S E UM   : — 

122.	  Accounts  of  the  Special  Trust  Funds  of  the  Museum  for  the  year  ending^ 

31st  March  1909,  and  of  the  number  of  persons  admitted to  visit the Museum 
and  Natural  History  Museum  in each year from  1903  to 1908,  &c. ;  printed  112 ­

B R I T I SH  SHIPS   (Desertions and Failures to join)  :— 

123.  Return  of number thereof 

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(Sess. Papers, No.  102.) 

B U I L D I NG  SOCIETIES   : — 

124.  Fourteenth  Annual  Report  by  the  Chief  Registrar  of  Friendly  Societies  of) 
-1 
(Sess.  Papers, No.  106.) j 

Proceedings under the Building  Societies Acts, for 1908 ;	  printed 1*14  -

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B U L G A R IA  (Treaty  Series) ;  v.   ACCOUNTS,  No. 1098. 

B U RY	   (Inquiry into  Charities):  v.  A C C O U N T S,  No. 443. 

BUSINESS   OF  THE  HOUSE  (  Days  occupied by  Government and by Private  Members) :— 

125.  Return relative thereto for Session 1909 ;  printed 523 

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(Sess. Papers, No. 302.)  


C A I S T E R - O N - S EA  (Explosions) ;  v.  A C C O U N T S,  NO.  3 3 0.  


C A L E D O N I AN  C A N AL   : — 

126.  One Hundred and Fourth Report  of the Commissioners ; printed 341 

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CAMBRIDGE,  U N I V E R S I TY   OF  ;  v.  A C C O U N T S,  NOS.  1 1 4 5,  1 1 4 6. 

C A N A LS	   AND  W A T E R W A YS   (Royal  Commission)  :— 

127.  Third Report  of the Commission.  Vols.  V.  and VI. 

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345 

425 

437 

455 

455 

465 

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370 

144 

488 

460 

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523 

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C A PE   OF  GOOD  H O PE  OBSERVATORY   : — 
128.  Report thereon for the year 1908 

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CENSUS  OF  PRODUCTION,  1 9 0 7:  — 

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f  King's
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Ordered. 

Presented. 

129.  Preliminary Tables summarising results

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{ King's 

Command. 

468 

C E Y L ON  (Colonial Reports);  v. ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1 6 8. 

CHAMBER   OF  LONDON   : — 

130.  Annual Accounts  of the Chamberlain  of  London for 1908  and 1909 ;  printed 341 

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C H A R I T A B LE  DONATIONS  AND  BEQUESTS   {Ireland)  :— 

131.  Sixty-fourth Annual Report  of the Commissioners 

C H A R I T A B LE  ENDOWMENTS  :  — 

Berks  (Inquiry  into  Charities) ;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  439-442. 

Bury  (Inquiry into  Charities) ;  v. Accounts,  No. 443. 

Devon (Inquiry  into  Charities);  v.  Accounts, Nos. 444-450. 

Exeter  (Inquiry  into Charities) ;  v.  Accounts,  No. 451. 

Plymouth (Inquiry  into  Charities) ;  v. Accounts,  No. 4o2. 

Wilts (Inquiry  into Charities) ;  v. Accounts,  No. 453. 

by  Act. 

341 

|  King's 
j Command. 


364 

C H A R I TY  COMMISSION  (  England and Wales)  :— 

132.  Fifty-sixth Report  of the Commissioners, for 1908 

C H E L S EA  H O S P I T AL   (Army  Prize  Money and Leyacy  Funds)  :— 

King's

Command. 


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133.	  Accounts  (for  Services  other  than  those  voted  by Parliament)  for the year ended j 
31st  March  1908,  with  Report  of  the  Comptroller  and  Auditor  General ;> 
printed % 
(Sess.  Papers,  No. 20.) I 

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<  A ct. 

8 

CHESTER  (Public  Records)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  8 1 3. 

C H I L D R EN  A C T,  1 9 08   : — 

134.	  Recommendations  as to Parliamentary  Grants  to Schools;  printed  84 

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135.  Provisional Rules made by the Lord Chancellor  of Ireland under the Act 

136.  Statutory  Rules made by the  Lord Chancellor  of Ireland under the  Act-

C H I N A :— 


No.  1,1909:  


137.  Report respecting the Opium Question

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138.  Correspondence relative  to International  Opium  Commission  -

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C H U R CH  ESTATES  COMMISSION   : — 

139.  Fifty-eighth Report from the Commissioners, for the year preceding  1st March  1909 

CHURCH  TEMPORALITIES  

(Ireland):— 

140.	  Report  of the Comptroller and Auditor General upon the Account  of the Irish Land ) 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Aot. 

j  King's
) Command, 

J  King's
] Command. 

82 

111 

411 

248 

527 

57 

Commission in respect of  Church Temporalities for the year ended 31st March 1908 ;  > 
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(Sess. Papers,  No.  51.) J 

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C I V IL  CONTINGENCIES  F U N D,  1 9 0 8 - 9 :  — 

141.	  Accounts  of  the  Fund  for  the  year  ended  31st  March  1909, and  Correspondence j 
_  j. 
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(Sess. Papers,  No. 320.) j 

with the Comptroller and Auditor  General thereon;  printed  539  -

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C I V IL  L I ST  PENSIONS   : — 

142.	  List of all Pensions granted during the year ending 31st March 1909 and charged upon ) 
(Sess. Papers, No.  196.) J 

t he  C i v il  L i s t;   printed  2 41 

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C I V IL  SERVANTS   (Retirement at the Age  of  Sixty-five):— 

143.	  Treasury Minute  stating the  circumstances  under which certain Civil  Servants have j 

by  Act. 

40 

535 

539 

'  Act. 

241 

been  retained  in  the  Service  after  they  have  attained  the  Age  of  Sixty-five; I 
(Sess. Papers, No.  235.)] 
printed 330  -

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C I V IL  SERVICE  COMMISSION   : — 

144.  Fifty-third Report of  the Commissioners, with Appendices 

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C I V IL  ;SERVICES  ::— 

Ciril Services and Revenue Departments  (Appropriation Accounts) : 

Presented. 

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145.  Appropriation Accounts of the sums granted by Parliament for Civil Services, Classes ) 
I.  to  VII.,  and  the  Revenue  Departments, for the year ended 31st March  1908, ( 
with Reports  of the Comptroller and Auditor General ;  printed 7  -

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Civil Services and Revenue Departments ( Estimates,  1 9 0 9 - 1 0)  : 

146.  Estimates  for  Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments  for  the  year  ending  31st) 

March  1910,  with  Memorandum  by  the  Financial  Secretary  to  the  Treasury I 
-J 
relating  thereto;  referred tothe  Committee  of  Supply, 42 ;  printed 42 
(Sess. Papers, No.  54.)' 

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i 

Civil Services and Revenue  Departments (Supplementary Estimates, 1908-9) : 

147.  Estimate  of the further sums required for the Service  of the year ending 31st  March > 
1909 ;  referred to the Committee  of Supply, 29 ;  printed 17  (Sess. Papers, No, 29.)  1 

Civil Services (Supplementary Estimate,  1 9 0 8 - 9)  : 

148.	  Estimate  of  the  further  amount  required  for  Grants  in  Aid  of  Harbours  in)  

the  year  ending  31st  March  1909;  referred  to  the  Committee  of  Supply,  29; I 

(Sess. Papers,  No.  46.) 
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Civil Services  and Revenue Departments,  1 9 0 9 - 10  (   Vote on Account)  : 

149.	  Estimate showing the  several  Services  for which a Vote  on Account is required for) 
the  year  ending  31st  March  1910;  referred  to  the  Committee  of  Supply,  42 ; V 
(Sess.  Papers, No. 55.) j 
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150.  Statement  of sums required  to  make good excesses  on certain Grants  to 31st  March] 
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1908 ;  referred  to the Committee  of  Supply, 45 ; printed 45 -

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Civil Services (Supplementary Estimates, 1909-10) : 

151.  Estimate  of  the further sum required for  the Service  of  the year ending 31st March  ) 

1 9 10  ;  r e f e r r ed   t o  t he  C o m m i t t ee   o f  S u p p l y,  3 27  ;   printed  3 27 

- V 
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152.  Return  of amount  payable  on  5th January  1909  for  ecclesiastical  purposes  in the) 
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CLERK  OF  THE  PEACE  OF  THE  C O U N TY  PALATINE   OF  LANCASTER  (Public  Records); 

v.  ACCOUNTS,  N o.  8 1 2. 

I	  CLOSURE  OF  D E B A TE  (Standing  Order No.  2 6 ) :— 
i	 

153.  Return  respecting  application  of  Standing  Order  No.  28  (Closure  of  Debate)) 
(Sess. Papers,  No.  306.)) 

during  Session  1909 ;  printed 526 

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!  C L O T H I NG	   F A C T O RY  (Army);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  3 9. 

j	 

-COAL  EXPORTS,  &C.   : — 

154.  Return relative thereto for 1908 ;  printed 120 

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(Sess. Papers,  No.  111.)  	

•COAL	  M I N ES  REGULATION  A C T,  1908   : — 

155.  Circular  to Owners of Coal Mines under the Act

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C O A L,  PRICES   OF  EXPORTED  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  7 8 3. 

•COAST  EROSION  AND  AFFORESTATION   (Royal  Commission)  :— 

156.  Second Report  of the Commission.  Vol.  II.

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COLOMBIA  (Treaty  Series);  v.   ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1096. 

COLONIAL  FORTIFICATIONS  A C T,  1 8 77   : — 

157.  Representations  of the  Secretary  of State and Draft Order  in Council 

COLONIAL  IMPORT  D U T I E S,  1 9 09   : — 

158.  Return relating thereto for 1909 

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COLONIAL  O F F I CE   (New  Zealand Company) (Public Records)',  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  810. 

COLONIAL  OFFICE   (Public  Records)-,  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  811. 

COLONIAL  REPORTS   : — 

!	 

Annual: 

159.  Reports, Nos. 591 (Leeward Islands), 592 (East Africa.Protectorate), 593  (Bechuana-
; 

.  land Protectorate),  594 (Northern  Nigeria)  -

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17 

27 

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327 

241 

526 

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330 

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COLONIAL  REPORTS—continued. 

Ordered.  Presented. 

Annual—continued. 

160.	  Report,  No. 595 (Basutoland) 

161.  Report,  No. 596  (Swaziland) 

162.  Report,  No. 597 (Saint Helena) 

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163.  Report,  No.  598  (Gibraltar) 

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165.  Report,  No.  600 (Uganda) 

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167.  Report,  No.  602  (Northern  Territories  of  the  Gold  Coast) 

168.  Reports,  Nos.  603 (Ashantee),  604 (Ceylon)  -

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169.  Reports,  Nos.  605 (Wei-hai-Wei),  606  (Seychelles) 

170.  Report, No.  607  (Jamaica) 

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171.  Report,  No.  608  (Colonial  Survey  Committee) 

172.  Report, No.  609  (Gambia) 

173.  Report,  No. 610 (Malta) 

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176.  Report,  No.  613  (Gold  Coast) 

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179.  Report,  No.  616  (Saint Lucia) 

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181.  Reports,  Nos.  618 (Fiji),  619 (Nyasaland Protectorate)  -

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Miscellaneous  : 

184.  Report,  No.  57 (Tour through Eastern Uganda) 

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185.  Report,  No.  58  (Imperial  Institute,  Selected  Reports) 

186.	  Report, No.  59 (Northern Nigeria) 

187.  Report, No.  60 (Nyasaland)  -

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j Command. 
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j Command, 

j  King's
< Command 
1  ( /i*/' r 
i  \ (itii o-'"' i. 
1  King's 
|  Command. 
(  King's 
( Command. 

1  King's 
| Command. 

J  King's 
| Command. 
j  King's
| Command. 
(  King's
) Command. 

j  King's
|  Command. 
|  King's
) Command. 
|  King's
I Command. 
|  King's
j Command. 
j  King's
| Command. 

j  King's
( Command. 
(  King's
| Command. 
J  King's
j Command. 

(  King's 
1 Command. 
(  King's
j  Command 
(  ([JRecess). 
(  King's 
}  Command. 

f  King's
|  Command. 

King's 
Command. 

(  King's 
(  Command. 

(  King's
|  Command. 
|  King's
|  Command. 

(  King's
| Command. 
(  King's
|  Command. 
J  King's
( Command. 

(  King's 
| Command. 

43 

93 

184 

206 

211 

232 

269 

276 

294 

327 

364 

373 

414 

429 

445 

452 

455 

476 

482 

486 

500 

523 

530 

539 

40 

187 

257 

494 

500 

513 

COLONIAL  STATISTICS   : — 

190.	  Statistical  Tables  relating  to  British  Colonies,  Possessions,  and  Protectorates.) 
1 

Part  X X X I I .,  1907 

King's
Command. 

449 

COLONIES   : — 

Accession of  British  Colonies  to Engagements between United Kingdom  and Foreign

Powers ( Treaty  Series)  ;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  1105,  1109. 

Ashantee;  v.  Accounts,  No.  168. 

Bahamas ;  v. Accounts, No.  178. 

Barbados ;  v. Accounts, No.  182. 

Basutoland;  v.  Accounts,  No.  160. 

VOL.  164. 

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A C C O U N TS   AND  PAPERS—continued. 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

COLONIES—continued. 

Bechuanaland;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  159, 17V. 

Ceylon;  v. Accounts,  No.  168.  , 

Colonial Fortifications ;  v. Accounts,  No.  157. 

Colonial Reports;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  159-189. 

Colonial Statistics;  v. Accounts,  No. 190. 

Colonial Survey Committee;  v.  Accounts,  No.  171. 

Cyprus ;  v.  Accounts,  Nos. 228, 229. 

Death  Sentences  ;  v. Accounts,  No.  230. 

JEast Africa  Protectorate;  v. Accounts, Nos.  159, 259. 

Emigration;  v. Accounts,  No. 314. 

Falkland Islands ;  v. Accounts,  No.  164. 

Fiji;  v. Accounts,  No.  181. 

Foreign  and Colonial  Parcel Post;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  771-773. 

Foreign  and Colonial Post-,  v. Accounts,  Nos.  774-777. 

Gambia ;  v. Accounts,  No.  172. 

Gibraltar;  v. Accounts,  No.  163. 

Gold  Coast;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  167,  176. 

Hong  Kong;  v.  Accounts, No.  180. 

Imperial Institute ;  v. Accounts, Nos.  166,  185. 

Jamaica;  v. Accounts,  No.  170. 

Leeward Islands ', v. Accounts,  No.  159. 

Malta ;  v. Accounts,  No.  173. 

Mauritius ;  v. Accounts,  No.  183. 

Mechanical  Transport;  v.  Accounts,  No.  587. 

Natal;  v.  Accounts,  No. 633. 

New Zealand;  v. Accounts,  No.  810. 

Nigeria;  v. Accounts,  No.  683. 

Northern Nigeria ;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  159, 186. 

Northern Territories of  the Gold  Coast;  v. Accounts,  No.  167. 

Nyasaland;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  181,  187. 

Saint Helena ;  v. Accounts,  No.  162. 

Saint Lucia ;  v.  Accounts,  No.  179. 

Saint  Vincent;  v.  Accounts,  No.  183. 

Seychelles;  v. Accounts,  No.  169. 

Sierra  Leone;  v. Accounts,  No.  174. 

Somaliland ;  v. Accounts, No.  182. 

South Africa-,  v.  Accounts, Nos.  188,  926, 927. 

Southern Nigeria;  ». Accounts,  Nos. 928, 929. 

Straits Settlements-,  v. Accounts,  Nos.  182, 934-936. 

Swaziland ;  v. Accounts,  No.  161. 

Transvaal-,  v.  Accounts,  Nos.  1086,  1087. 

Trinidad and Tobago;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  182,  1125, 

Turks and Caicos Islands;  v.  Accounts,  No. 175. 

Uganda ;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  165,  184,  189. 

Wei-hai-Wei;  v. Accounts,  No.  169. 

fVest Africa  ;  v.  Accounts, Nos.  1168,  1169. 

 
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COMBINATIONS   IN  THE  M E AT  T R A DE   (Departmental  Committee):— 
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191.  Report  of Committee thereon 

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192.  Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee thereon,  with Appendices 

COMMERCIAL  INTELLIGENCE  COMMITTEE   (Report)  :— 

193.  Report  to the Board  of Trade by the Advisory  Committee,  1905 to 1909 

COMMERCIAL  PAPERS  : — 

„ 

No.  1,  1909 (Sugar  Convention);  v. Accounts,  No. 941.  


No.  2,  1909 (Suez  Canal);  v. Accounts,  No. 940,  


COMMITTALS (Ireland):— 

194.  Returns  of the number  of persons committed for Trial in Ireland,  1908 

•COMPANIES  (Consolidation)  A C T,  1 9 08  

(Rules):— 

195.  Rules under the Act  ;  printed  90 

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(Sess.  Papers,  No.  88.) 

COMPANIES  (  Winding-up):— 

196.  Eighteenth Annual  Report by the Board of Trade ;  printed 434 

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COMPANIES  (Winding-up)  ACT, 

1 8 9 0 :  — 

197.  Accounts  of  Receipts  and  Expenditure  in  Proceedings under  the  Act  during the) 
(Sess. Papers,  No.  124.) J 

year ended 31st March 1909;  printed 135 

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CONGESTED  DISTRICTS  BOARD 

(Ireland)— 
198.  Eighteenth Report  of the Board, for the year ended 31st March  1909 

CONGESTED  DISTRICTS  (Scotland)  A C T  ,  1 8 97   : — 

199.  Eleventh  Report of the Congested Districts (Scotland) Board ­

CONSOLIDATED  F U ND   : — 

200.  Abstract  Account  of Issues made in  the  year  ended  31st March 1908, with Reporti 
(Sess.  Papers, No. 23.) J 

of the Comptroller and Auditor  General;  printed  11 

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C O N T I N E N T AL  R A I L W A  Y  INVESTIGATIONS   : — 

201.  Report  on Railways  in Austria and Hungary

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CONVENTION  OF  BERNE  (Miscellaneous,  No.  2,  1 9 0 9 ) :  — 

202.  Correspondence respecting revised Convention

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COPYRIGHT  A C T S,  1 8 44   TO  1 8 86   : — 

203.  Order  in  Council  giving  effect  to

  Accession

  of  Liberia  to

Convention 

  the  International) 
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204.  Order  in Council giving  effect to Accession  of  German  Protectorates  to  the  Copy- ^ 

right Union 

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COREA  (Treaty  Series) -,  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1 1 1 6. 

CORK  (Queen's  College);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  8 2 4. 

C O RK  (University  College);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  4 9 1. 

CORNWALL,  D U C HY  OF  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  2 5 5. 

CORONERS  (Departmental  Committee) :— 
205.  First  Report  of  the Committee 

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_ 

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CORPORAL  P U N I S H M E N T :— 

206.  Return relative thereto for 1908 ;  printed 144  ­

(Sess. Papers, No.  138.) 

COST  OF  LIVING  (.French  Towns)  :— 

207.  Report  of Inquiry  of  Board  of Trade thereon 

C O U N TY  COURT  PROCEDURE   : — 

208.  Return relative thereto;  printed  67 -

(Sess. Papers,  No.  71.) 

C O U N TY  COURT  RULES   : — 

209.  Rules, dated  December 1908

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-

-

-

-

210.  County Court (Agricultural  Holdings) Rules,  1909

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211.  Rules, dated March  1909 

212.  Rules,  1909 (No.  2) 

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. 

YOL. 164.  •Sess.  1909. 

4  B 

2 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

Command. 
King's

Command. 


142 

lf>6 

Command. 

486 

23 

90 

434 

135 

494 

108 

11 

446 

4 

6 

60 

324 

144 

10 

67 

8 

24 

90 

207 

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A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S —   c o n t i n u e d. 

COUNTY  COURTS  A C T,  1 8 88   : — 

I 

213.  Order made under the Act 

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COUNTY  COURTS   (England)  (Fees)i  — 

214.  Treasury  Order regulating Fees  in County  Courts -	

C O U N TY	   COURTS  (Plaints  arid  Sittings)  :—>  


215.  Return relative thereto for 1908 ;  printed 378  -

(Sess.  Papers, No.  258.) 

COUNTY  OFFICERS  AND  COURTS   (Ireland)  A C T,  1 8 77   : —  

? 

216.  Account  of  Receipts and Payments during the year ended 31st March 1909 ; printed) 


370

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(Sess.  Papers,  No.  254.)) 

COUNTY  OFFICERS  AND  COURTS   (Ireland)  A C T,  1 8 77   (Rules)  -.—-:  

\ 

217.  Rules relative  to the Labourers  (Ireland)  Act,  1906 

-

Ordered. 

Presented. 

'  Act. 

by  Act. 

(  by  Address,  

I 

370 

by  Aet. 

by  Act,  


COURT  OF  PROBATE  D I V I S I ON   (High  Court of Justice)  (Ireland)-.—  


218.  Annual Accounts for 1908

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

by  Aet.  


C O U R T S - M A R T I AL  (Army)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  3 3.  


C O U R T S - M A R T I AL  (Navy)  J v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  6 7 2.  


C O U N TY  P A L A T I NE   OF  C H E S T ER  AND  P R I N C I P A L I TY   OF  W A L ES   (Public  Records);r 
i  v.  ACCOUNTS,  N o.  8 1 3. 

C R I M I N AL	   AND  J U D I C I AL  STATISTICS   (Ireland) -.— 


219.  Statistics for 1908.  Part II.  (Civil  Statistics) 

-

220.  Ditto 

-

- 

Part  I.  (Criminal Statistics)  -	

C R I M I N AL  PROCEDURE   (Scotland)  A C T,  1 8 87   : —  	

221.  Act  of Adjournal relative  to Capital  Sentences 

C R O F T E R S'  HOLDINGS   (Scotland)  A C T S :— 

222.	  Report  of the Crofters Commission for 1908  -

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: 

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CROWN  A G E N TS   : — 

223.  Report  of  Committee  of Inquiry  on Crown Agents Office 

C R O WN  LEASES   : — 

224.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 414 

-

-

-

-

(Sess.  Papers, No. 271.)  	

CROWN'S  NOMINEE  ACCOUNT   : — 

225.  Abstract Account  of Receipts and Payments for 1908 ;  printed 108  	

(Sess. Papers,  No.  101.) .51 

C U BA  ( Treaty  Series) ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  1 1 0 7. 

C U S T O M S:  — 

226.  Fifty-third Report  of the Commissioners, for the year ending 31st March  1909 

CUSTOMS  AND  EXCISE   (Public  Records);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  8 1 4,  8 1 5.  


CUSTOMS  AND  I N L A ND  R E V E N UE  B I LL   (Explanatory  Memorandum  on  Clauses  3;  5,  7, 

and  9 ) :— 


(  King's

{ Command. 
( 

1 Command, 

by  Act.  


j  King's
| Command. 

(  King's
j Command. 

409 

by  Act.

Command, 


227.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 425 

- 

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  274.) 

423 


CYPRUS   : —  


228.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 341 

-	 

(Sess. Papers,  No. 240.) 

229.  Annual Report for 1908-9 

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-

-

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. 

. 

D A L B E A TH  C O L L I E R Y,  F I F E S H I R E;  V.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  6 2 4.  


DARLINGTON  (Polling Districts);  » .  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  7 2 5.  


DANGEROUS  AND  U N H E A L T HY  INDUSTRIES   (Factory  and  Workshop Acts);  v.  ACCOUNTS  


330 

Command 
{Recess).

N o s.  3 5 6 - 3 6 1. 

D E A TH  SENTENCES   IN  C R O WN  COLONIES:  — 
230.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 312 

- 

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  229.) 

'  by  Address, 

^ 18 


D E A T H S,  B I R T H S,  AND  M A R R I A G ES  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  6 6 - 6 9,  5 8 5,  5 8 6.  


D E A T HS  FROM  STARVATION,   OR  ACCELERATED   BY  P R I V A T I ON  (England  and  Wales):—  


231.  Return relative thereto for 1908 ;  Order for Return discharged, 546 

-

232.  Return relative thereto for 1908 ;  printed 546  -

-

- 

(Sess. Papers, No. 337.) 

by  Address, 

53 
546 

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5 6   1 

A C C O U N TS  A ND  PAPERS—continued. 

Ordered.  Presented. 

D E A T HS  OP  INFANTS   IN  POOR  L AW  INSTITUTIONS   : — 

233.  Return relative thereto;  printed  107 

- 

(Sess. Papers, No.  99.) 

107 

107 

DEPARTMENT   OF  AGRICULTURE  AND  TECHNICAL  INSTRUCTION  FOR  I R E L A N D :— 

234.  Report  on Imports and Exports for 1908 

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-

-

-

-

-

-

-

J  King's

|  Command, 

4 3  5 

—  V. also ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  2 4 0,  3 8 0. 

DEPARTMENTAL  COMMITTEES   : —  


Ambulance Service in the Metropolis;  v. Accounts,  No.  19.  


Combinations in the Meat  Trade ;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  191,  192. 

Coroners;  v. Accounts,  No. 205. 

Epizootic  Abortion;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  319, 320. 

Humidity and  Ventilation ;  v. Accounts,  No. 425. 

Inebriates  Acts  (Scotland)  ;v.  Accounts, No. 436. 

London Quarter Sessions ;  v. Accounts,  No. 572. 

Machinery  and  Engineering  Staffs  at  Poor  Law  Institutions;  v.  Accounts, 

No. 583. 

Midwives Act;  v. Accounts, No. 612. 

Police  (Preservation of  Order at Public  Meetings) ;  v. Accounts,  No.  723. 

Poultry  Breeding  (Scotland) ;  v. Accounts, No. 781. 

Railway  Accounts and Statistical Returns«.;  v. Accounts,  No. 832. 

Telegraph and  Telephone Accounts ;  v. Accounts,  No.  984. 

Truck  Acts  ;  v. Accounts,  No.  1127. 

West  Africa  ;  w. Accounts, No. 1169. 

D E P U TY  LIEUTENANTS   (Ireland)  (Militia  Act,  1 8 8 2 );   » .  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  6 1 5. 

DESTRUCTIVE  INSECTS  AND  PESTS  ACTS,  1 8 77  AND  1907   : — 

235.  Order entitled the American Gooseberry Mildew (Norwich) Order,  1909  -

236.  Order entitled the American Gooseberry  Mildew Order, 1909  -

DEVELOPMENT  AND  R O AD  IMPROVEMENTS  F U ND  B I LL   : — 

237.  Memorandum relating thereto;  printed 404 

238.  Ditto 

-

-  ditto 

-

-

printed 437 

-

- 

-

- 

(Sess. Papers, No.  266.) 

(Sess. Papers,  No.  278.) 

D E V ON  (Inquiry into Charities) ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos.  444-450. 

DISASTER   AT  A L E X A N D RA  DOCK,  NEWPORT  (MONMOUTH)   : — 

239.  Report  on the Disaster  of 2nd July  1909

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_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

DISEASES  OF  A N I M A LS  A C T S :— 

240.  Report  of  Proceedings  by  the  Department  of  Agriculture  and Technical  Instruction i 
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for Ireland  under the Acts  for  1908 

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-

-

-

-

-

—  V. also ACCOUNTS,  NO.  7 0. 

DISEASES   OF  A N I M A LS  A C T S,  1 8 94   TO  1 9 03   : — 

241.  Order entitled the Foreign Animals Amendment Order of 1908 (No. 2)  -

242.  Order  entitled  the  Southampton  (Channel  Islands  Animals)  Landing  Place  Order i 
\ 

of  1909 

243.  Order revoking  the Foreign  Animals (Amendment)  Orders  Nos. 3 and 4 of  1908 

244.  Order revoking the Foreign Animals (Amendment)  Order No. 2  of 1908 

245.  Order defining a Foreign Animals Quarantine  Station  in the Port  of London  -

246.  Order revoking the Foreign Animals (Amendment)  Order of 1908  -

247.  Order entitled the Importation  of  Canine Animals  Order of  1909 

-

249.  Order relative  to landing of Channel Islands Animals at Southampton 

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VOL. 164. 

Sess,  1909. 

4  c 

by  Act. 

by  Act, 

404 

437 

6 

168 

404 

437 

(  King's
1  Command. 

4 86 

King's 
Command. 

422 

by  Act, 

by  Act, 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Aet. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

iy Act. 

6 

28 

93 

108 

129 

140 

187 

206 

388 

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562 

ACCOUNTS  AND  PAPERS—continued. 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

D O C K Y A RD  E X P E N SE  ACCOUNTS  {Navy) 

;  v.  A C C O U N T S,  NO.  6 7 4. 

DOGS  R E G U L A T I ON   {Ireland)  A C T,  1 8 6 5 :— 

251.  Account  of  Receipts  and Expenditure  under the  Act  for  1908;  printed  151 

- ) 
(Sess.  Papers,  No.  143.)J 

-

byby  Act.Act. 

151511

DORSET  (.Polling  Districts) 

;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  7 2 6.  


DRUNKENNESS  (  I r e l a n d) 

:— 

252.  Return  relative thereto ;  printed  179 

-

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  155.) 

137 

179 

D U B L IN  HOSPITALS   : — 

253.  Fifty-first Report of the Board  of  Superintendence,  1908-9 

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D U B L IN  METROPOLITAN  P O L I CE   : — 

253A. Treasury Minute relating thereto  -

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254.  Statistical Tables thereof for 1908  -	

D U B L I N,  U N I V E R S I TY  C O L L E GE  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  4 9 0 , 4 9 4.  


D U C HY   OF  C O R N W A LL  :-—  


-

-	

(  King's
} Command, 

391

by  Aot, 

|  King's
1 Command, 


27 

3 3  0

255.  Account  of Receipts and  Disbursements for 1908 ;  printed 57  (Sess.  Papers, No.  68.) 

by  Act. 

57 

D U C HY   OF  LANCASTER   : — 

Accountt  ooff  Receipt

256256..  Accoun
77
printed
printed

Receiptss anandd  Disbursement
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Disbursementss  iinn  ththee  yeayearr  endeendedd  21s21stt  Decembe

Decemberr  19019088 ;;))
Papers,,  NoNo..  12.12.))  11 

(Sess.. Papers
(Sess

by  Aot. 

7 	

D U R H AM  (  P o l l i n  g  Districts); 

v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  7 2 7 - 7 2 9. 

EARNINGS  AND  HOURS 

I N Q U I R Y :— 

257.  Report  of  Inquiry  by the Board  of Trade thereon.  I.  Textile  Trades in 1906 

258.  Ditto 

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ditto  -

-

-

-

II.  Clothing  Trades  in 1906 

E A ST  A F R I CA  PROTECTORATE   : — 

259.  Report  on the Forests  of  British  East Africa 

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-

-

- 

-

Colonial	  Reports 

;  v.  A c c o u n t s,  N o.  1 5 9. 

E A ST  I N D IA   : — 

Accounts 

and  Estimates, 

1909—10  : 

260.  Explanatory  Memorandum  on Accounts and Estimates,  1909-10 

Army  Administration: 

261.  Correspondence relating  to abolition  of  Military  Supply Department 

Civil 

Service: 

Contagious Diseases: 

263.  Return  relative  thereto ;  printed  23  -

-	

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  38.) 

Education: 

264.  Review  of Progress  of Education,  1902-7.  Yols.  I.  and II. 

Enteric 

Fever,  &c.  (Native 

and  European  Army)  : 

265.	  Return relative thereto from 1900  to  1908 ;  printed 353 

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 245.) 

Excise  Administration  : 

266.  Reply  to Representations thereon 

Estimate: 

267.  Estimate  of  Revenue  and  Expenditure  of  the  Government  of  India  for  1908-9; ) 

Factory  Labour Commission,  1908 : 

Famine ; 

Fifty  Years' Administration  : 

270.  Memorandum  on some results during the past fifty years 

Finance and Revenue  Accounts: 

271.  Finance and Revenue Accounts  of the Government  of India for  1907-8  ­

1  King's
(  Command. 
(  King's
1 Command. 

J  King's
<  Command 
(Recess). 
( 

36 

414 

4 86 

{  King's
1 Command. 

283 

II  King's
King's
Command. 
JJ  Command.

65 

by  Act. 

150 

1  by  Address 
JJ 
ofof 
Session, 
JJ  last
last  Session,
June. 
''  2244  June.

JJ  King's
King's
mand. 
||  ComCom mand.

JJ byby  Address,
Address, 
333366 
II 

f  King's
•j  Command 
(Recess). 
( 

23 

136 

353533 

5 

by  Act, 

150 

King's
TT  King's
Command. 
||  Command.

(  King's 
<  Command 
(Recess). 
( 

King's
ff  King's
Command, 
||  Command,

by  Act. 

2 1 

5 

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5 6   3 

A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S —   c o n t i n u e d. 

Ordered. 	

Presented. 

E A ST	  

I N D I A —  c o n t i n u e d. 

Financial  Statement : 

272.  Indian Financial  Statement for 1909-10 ;  printed 134 

-  (Sess.  Papers, No.  122.) 

Home  Accounts: 

273.	  Annual Home Accounts  of the  Government  of India ;  printed 150  -

-
(Sess.  Papers,  No.  141.) f 

-)

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Income and Expenditure : 

274.	  Return relative thereto for the eleven years 1897-8  to 1907-8  ;  printed  195 

- \ 
(Sess. Papers,  No. 165.) J 

-

Legislative  Councils  : 

275.  Papers relative  to Representation  of Muhammadans thereon  -

-

-

Loans raised in  England: 

276.	  Return  of  all  Loans  raised  in  England, chargeable  on the  Revenues  of  India, out-) 

r by  Address, 
| 

126 

134 

'  Act. 

150 

by  Address, 

176 

195 

Command. 

150 

standing  at  the  commencement  of  the  half-year  ending  31st  March  1909;  > 
(Sess.  Papers, No.  96.) j 
printed 106 

- 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

by  Aet, 

277.  Ditto 

-  30th  September  1909;  printed 472  -	 

(Sess. Papers,  No. 290.) 

by  Act. 

-
-  ditto 

106 

472 

Loans  raised in  India : 

278.  Return  of  all  Loans  raised  in  India, chargeable  on  the  Revenues  of  India,  out-) 
standing  at  the  commencement  of  the  half-year  ending  31st  March  1909;> 
(Sess. Papers, No. 220.) ) 
printed 269 

by  Act. 

269 

Medical'. 

279.  Measures for promoting Medical Profession 

-

-

-

-

Parliamentary  Papers : 
280.	  Return relative thereto ;  printed 90  -

Progress  and Condition: 

-

-

-

- 

(Sess. Papers,  No.  89.) 

281.	  Statement exhibiting the Moral and Material Progress and Condition  of  India during) 
(Sess. Papers, No.  156.)) 

1907-8  ;  printed 179 

- 

Prosecutions  for  Speeches,  8fc. : 
282.	  Return relative thereto ;  printed 36  -

-

-

-

- 

(Sess. Papers, No.  50.) 

Railways: 

283.  Administration  Report  on Railways  in India for 1908 

Railways and Irrigation  Works'. 

284.	  Return relative thereto;  printed  136 

- 

(Sess. Papers, No.  127.) 

Revenue Accounts : 

(Accounts  and Papers relating  to the Revenues of  India, referred to the consideration 

of a Committee  of the whole House, 345.] 

Sanitary Measures : 
285.  Report thereon,  1907-8 

State  Prisoners: 

286.	  Return relative thereto ;  printed 545 

-

-

-

- 

(Sess. Papers, No.  330.) 

Statistical Abstract: 

287.  Statistical Abstract relating to British India,  1898-9  to 1907-8 

Supersession  of  Officers : 

288.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 449 

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(Sess. Papers,  No. 282.) 

Trade: 

289.  Tables relating thereto,  1903-4  to 1907-8 

290.  Review  of Trade for 1908-9  ­

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ECCLESIASTICAL  C O M M I S S I O N :— 

291.  Sixty-first Report from the Commissioners, with Appendix 

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E D I N B U R GH	   U N I V E R S I T Y; 

ACCOUNTS,  N o s.  1 1 5 6,  1 1 5 7. 

VOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909. 

4  c  2 

King's 
Command. 


172 

'  Address,  

87 

90 

by  Act. 

179 

'  Address 
of 

29  July, 

fs 

'  by  Address, 

129 

36 

294 

136 

|  King'.

( Command. 

294 


Address, 
531 

545 

King's 

i  Addresi 
437 

King's 

(Recess). 

404 

446 

93 

486 

)  King's
)  Co 

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Ordered. 

Presented. 

EDUCATION   : — 

Ireland: 

292.	  Annual Report  of the Commissioners,  1908 

-

- •  ­

(  King's 
|  Command. 

1 39 

National Education (Ireland);  v. Accounts, Nos.  639-643. 

National School Teachers' (Ireland)  Pension Fund ;  v. Accounts, No.  654. 

Queen's Colleges;  v. Accounts, Nos.  8 2 3 - 8 2 5. 

Reformatory  and Industrial  Schools;  v.  Accounts,  Nos.  854-856. 

Scotland: 

293.  Minute continuing operation  of  the Scotch  Code,  1908

-

-

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294.  Minute providing for allocation  of  Balance  of Education  (Scotland) Fund 

295.  Thirty-sixth  Annual Report  by the Accountant for Scotland  -

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-

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296.  Minute providing for the recognition  of certain Institutions  as  Central Institutions ­

297.  Ditto 

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ditto 

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ditto 

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ditto 

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298.  Report of the Committee  of Council  on Education  in Scotland,  1908-9 

299.	  Minute  of  ,10th  August  1909,  altering  the  constitution  of  the  Committees  on > 

Secondary  Education

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300.  Minute  amending the Minute of  10th August  1909

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301.  Regulations for the Preliminary  Education,  Training, and Certification of  Teachers 

302.  Minute relating to  Committees for the Training  of Teachers  -

303.  Minute providing for recognition  of  the Edinburgh  School of Cookery 

304.  Minute sanctioning payment out  of  School Fund for certain purposes 

305.  Regulations  as to Grants to Secondary  Schools 

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Scotland  (Continuation Classes)  : 

306.  Regulations for Continuation  Classes,  1909 

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E D U C A T I O N AL  E X P E N D I T U RE   (Colonies):— 

307.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 266 

-	 

(Sess. Papers,  No. 212.) 

E G Y PT   : —  


No.  1, 1909 : 


308.	  Reports  on the Finances, Administration,  and Condition  of Egypt and the  Soudan in \ 
• 

1908

(

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-

-

-

.

No.  2,  1909: 

309.	  Despatch forwarding Egyptian Law  of July  1909

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-

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Treaty  Series ;  v. Accounts,  No.  1109. 

E G Y P T I AN  G U A R A N T E ED  L O AN   OF  1 8 8 5 :  — 

310.  Account  to 31st March 1909 

ELECTRIC  L I G H T I NG  A C T S,  1 8 82  AND  1 8 88   : — 

311.  Special Report  by the Board  of Trade under the Act  of  1888 

E L E C T R IC  L I G H T I NG  A C T S,  1 8 82   TO  1 9 02   (Proceedings):— 

312.	  Report  by the  Board  of  Trade  of  their  Proceedings  under  the  Acts  during  the / 
(Sess.  Papers, No. 205.) ) 

present year;  printed 257

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f  King's
|  Command. 
|  King's 
] Command. 

f  King's 
}  Command.  

(  King's 
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I Command. 

King's 

King's 
Command. 

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)  Command.  

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I  Com/mand, 

King's 

| 
]  Command. 

1  King's 
|  Command. 
(  King's
(  Command. 

J  King's 
1 Command. 

(  by Address of 
< last Session, 
(  29  July. 

King's

Command. 


j  King's 
j Command. 

5 7 

2 07 

2 32 

2 45 

3 73 

3 12 

3 69 

4 23 

4 28 

4 28 

4 86 

5 00 

5 45 

166 

2 66 

1 31 

4 09 

by  Act. 

1 08 

(  King's

} Command. 

2 4 8. 


by  Act. 

2 57 

E L E M E N T A R  Y  SCHOOL  T E A C H E R S  '  SUPERANNUATION  R U L E  S   : — 

313.  Amendments of Rules Nos.  10 and 12 ;  printed  269 

­  

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  219.) 

by  Act. 

E M I G R A T I ON   ; — 

314.  Report  on the Emigrants'  Information Office, 1908 ­

E M I G R A T I ON  AND  IMMIGRATION   : — 

J  King's
(  Command, 

265 

76 

315.  Tables relating  to Emigration and  Immigration from  and  into  the United Kingdom! 

in 1908, and Report to the Board of Trade thereon ;  printed 238  ­

EMIGRATION  STATISTICS   (Ireland)  :— 

(Sess. Papers, No. 195.) 

316.  Emigration  Statistics  of Ireland for 1908 

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2 3  5 

238 

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(  Command. 

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5 6   5  . 

1 C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S —   c o n t i n u e d. 

E N D O W ED  SCHOOLS  A C TS   : —  


Ordered. 

Presented. 


317.  Scheme for Management of Walwyn's Free School; printed  10 

-

-

-

-)  byby  Act.Act. 

(Sess. Papers, No. 22.) J 

318.  Scheme  amending  Scheme  regulating  Glamorgan  Intermediate  and  Technical) 
(Sess. Papers, No. 286.) J 

Education Fund ;  printed 460	 

byby  Aet.Aet. 

EPIZOOTIC  A B O R T I ON   (Departmental  Committee):— 

319.  Report of Departmental Committee thereon.  Part I. (Cattle) 
320. Appendix to Part I.  of Report 

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tt  Sing's
Sing's
|| Command,
Command, 
j  King's 
| Command. 

ESSEX  (Polling Districts);  r.  ACCOUNTS,  No. 730. 

E V I C T ED  TENANTS   (Ireland)  A C T,  1 9 07   : — 

321. Return giving particulars  of persons reinstated  under the  Act  during  the quarter>  King's 

322. Ditto  -

323. Ditto  -

ditto  -

ditto  -

ditto  -

ditto  -

EVICTIONS 

(Ireland):— 

324324..  ReturReturnn ooff  Eviction

Evictionss iinn Irelan

Irelandd  iinn ththee quarte

quarterr endeendedd 31s31stt Decembe

Decemberr 190190

88 

325.  Ditto  -

326.  Ditto  -

327. Ditto  -

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ditto 

ditto 

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- 30th June 1909 

- 30th September 1809  	

EXCEPTIONS  TO  K I N G 'S  REGULATIONS   (Navy)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  6 7 8. 

E X C I SE  ADMINISTRATION   (East  India);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO. 266. 

E X E T ER   (Inquiry into Charities);   ».  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  4 5 1. 

ended 31st December 1908J 
during  the  quarter i 

Command,

King's 

ended 31st March 1909 f  Command. 

during  the  quarter) 

King's 

ended 30th June 19091  Command. 

King's
((  King's
Command 
•(
•(  Command
( 
(Recess). 
|  King's
| Command. 
(  King's
| Command. 
(  King's
| Command. 

1100

454588

262 

430

8822

292944

535311

5 

162

401 
523 

EXPERIMENTS  ON  L I V I NG  A N I M A LS   : — 

328-9.  Return  relative  thereto for  1908  ,* printed 214 

-

-

(Sess.  Papers, No.  176.)  	

((  byby  Address,
Address,
191955 
\\ 

214

EXPLOSIONS   : — 

Caistor-on-Sea: 

330.  Report on the Explosion during removal  of Wreck

-

-

-

-

-

Faversham % 
Reportt  oonn ththee Explosio

331331..	  Repor

Explosionn  ooff Detonator

Detonatorss  aatt  UpleeUpleess  Marshes

Marshes,,  Faversha

Favershamm 

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West  Stanley  Colliery: 

332.  Report on the Explosion thereat 

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Blackbeck,  Lancashire: 

-	

(  King's 
1 Command. 

i 
j\.vng s
•J Command 
(Recess).
(Recess).
(( 

(  King's
1 Command. 

(  King's 
\  Command. 

150

2 06 

334

43Q

Fernilee Factory,  Derbyshire: 

334. Report on Explosion thereat

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EXPLOSIVES   : — 

335.  Thirty-third Annual Report, for 1908 

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289 

EXPLOSIVES  A C T,  1 8 7 5 :— 

336.  Order  in  Council  relating to  Stores for  Gunpowder  and  mixed  Explosives  	

by  Act. 

302 

EXPORTS  AND  IMPORTS   (United  Kingdom)  :— 
337.  Return relative thereto;  printed 398 

EXPORTS,  IMPORTS  A N D;  V.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  4 3 2. 

EXPULSION   OP  A L I E N S :— 

-

-

-

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 262.) 

299 

398 

338.  Return  relative  thereto ;  printed 53 

-	

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  63.) 

FACTORIES  AND  WORKSHOPS   : — 

339.	  Report  of  the  Chief Inspector  on  the  Administration  of  the  Act  of  1901 by) 
) 

Local Authorities for 1907 -

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_ 

_ 

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341.  Summary of Returns of persons employed  in 1907 in Textile Factories  -

-

-

VOL. 164. 

Sess.  1909.	 

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4  F  4 

[[ byby  Address,
Address,
4499 
11 

King's
King's
Command. 
Command.

(  King's
(  CommamA. 

(  King's
J Command 
(Recess). 
1 

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ACCOUNTS  A ND  PAPERS—continued. 

FACTORY  AND  WORKSHOP   : — 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

Generation, Use, fyc. of  Electrical  Energy : 

342. Report on Draft Regulations for Generation of Electrical Energy  -

Tinning  of  Metals: 

(  K-ITUJS
•<•<  Command
Command 
(Recess).
(Recess).
(( 

343. Report on Draft Regulations for Factories  in which Tinning of Metals  is carried  on j

Sing's
{ Command. 

Grinding of  Metals and Raxing of  Grindstones : 

344.  Report  on Draft Regulations  for  Factories  in  which  Grinding  of  Metals is carried on 

Florists'  Workshops: 

345.  Report on application of the Act of  1901 to Florists' Workshops 

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Charitable Institutions  : 

346.  Schemes for regulation of Hours of Employment, &c.  in Charitable Institutions 

347. Ditto  -
348.  Ditto  -
349.  Ditto  -
350.  Ditto  -

351.  Ditto  -
352.  Ditto  -
353.  Ditto  -

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Particulars of  Piece-work  Wages : 

354.  Report as  to methods  of applying Section 116 of the Act  of 1901 

-

FACTORY  AND  WORKSHOP  A C T  ,  1 9 0 1,  AND  NOTICE   OF  ACCIDENTS  A C T  ,  1 9 0 6 :— 
355.  Preliminary Tables of cases  of Industrial Poisoning, &c. during 1908 

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King's
jj  King's
Command. 
jj Command.

j  King's 
( Command. 

by  Act, 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act, 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act . 

f  King's 
| Command. 

(  King's
j Command. 

;  FACTORY  AND  WORKSHOP  A C TS   : — 

Dangerous and  Unhealthy Industries : 

356.  Regulations for the use  of East Indian Wool -
357.  Regulations for the manufacture  of nitro-and amido-derivatives of Benzine, &c. 
-
358.  Regulations for Generation, &c. of Electrical Energy
359. Regulations for the process of the Vitreous Enamelling  of  Metal or Glass 

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-

360.  Regulations for the Tinning of Metal Hollow-ware
361.  Regulations for the Grinding of Metals and Racing of Grindstones 

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-
-

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act, 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

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-

5 

262

486

502

20 
70 

111 
168 

168 

262 
472 
486 

411

20

10 

10 
10 

10 

265 
491 

Particulars  of  Piece-work  Wages : 

362.  Order  applying  to  the manufacture  of  Wearing  Apparel  the  provisions  of  Sec-) 
J 

tion 116  of the Act of 1901 

byby  Act.Act.

4 44 499 

Particulars of  Work <ind  Wages ( Chocolates,  Sfc.) : 

363.  Order applying to Factories and Workshops  in which the manufacture  of Chocolates, i 
- J 

&c.  is carried  on the provisions of Section 116  of the Act  of 1901  -

-

-

by  Act. 

544

Particulars of  Work and Wages (Printing  of  Cotton  Cloth) : 

364.  Order  applying  to  Factories  in  which  the  Printing  of  Cotton  Cloth  is carried  on i 
- j 

the provisions of Section 116 of the Act of 1901 

-

-

-

-

byby  Act.Act. 

545444

365.  Order revoking Order of 1892 relative thereto 

Special Exception—Overtime Employment on Incomplete  Process  : 
. 

-

-

-

by  Act. 

498 

F A L K L A ND  ISLANDS   (Colonial  Reports); 

v.  ACCOUNTS ,  No. 164. 

FAVERSHAM  (Explosions);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  3 3 1. 

FEE-CHARGING  SECONDARY  SCHOOLS   (Free  Places):— 
-

366. Return relative thereto;-printed544 

-

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 323.) 

505 

544 

F EE  F U ND   (House of  Lords):— 

367. Accounts from 1st April 1908 to 31st March 1909 

F E R N I L EE  FACTORY ,  DERBYSHIRE  (Explosions);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  3 3 4. 

F I JI   (Colonial Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS ,  NO.  181. 

F  King's 
| Command. 

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5 6  7  . 

A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S— continued. 	

FINANCE  A C C O U N T S :— 

368.  Finance  Accounts  of  the  United  Kingdom  for the year  ended 31st March 1909 ; > 
-  (Sess. Papers, No. 200.) J 
-

printed  248  -

-

-

-

-

-

Ordered.  Presented. 

by  Act. 

248 

East  India;  ».  Accounts,  No.  271. 

FINANCE  B I LL   : — 

369.  Copy of Enactments referred  to ;  printed 232 - 
370.  Copy of Clauses 11 and  14 as proposed  to be amended ; printed 360 

(Sess. Papers, No. 191.) 
-

371.  Copy of Clauses 16, 17, 18, 22, and  23  as proposed  to be amended; printed 370 

(Sess. Papers, No. 247.) I 

(Sess. Papers, No. 255.) I 

225 
- i  360 
-) 

370 

372.  Copy of Part I.  as proposed  to be amended; printed 486 -  (Sess. Papers, No. 291.) 

FINANCE  B I LL   (Charges on Property) -.— 

373.  Return relative thereto ; printed 289 
-  ditto  - printed 526 
374.  Ditto  -

-
-

-
-

(Sess. Papers, No. 225.) 
(Sess. Papers, No. 305.) 

FINANCIAL	  STATEMENT,  1909-10:— 

375.  Statement of Revenue and Expenditure as laid before the House  by the Chancellor \ 
of the Exchequer when opening the Budget; printed 131  (Sess. Papers, No. 121.)) 
-| 

376.	  Revised Estimates  of Revenue and Expenditure for 1909-10 ; printed 498 

-

Estimated Yield of proposed  Taxation : 

(Sess. Papers, No. 297.) f 

482 

274 
494 

131 

498 

232 

360 

370 

486 

289 
526 

131 

498 

377.  Statement  of  estimated Yield  of  new  and increased  Taxation  proposed  by the) 

Chancellor of the Exchequer in his Budget Speech ;  printed 160 -

-

-

- V 

Revised estimated  Yield of proposed  Taxation : 

(Sess. Papers, No. 147.) j 

378.  Revised Statement  of estimated  Yield  of new and increased Taxation proposed by) 
- > 

the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his Budget Speech;  printed 529 

-

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 316.) j 

F I N A N C I AL	   STATEMENT  ( East India);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  2 7 2. 

FINES,  &C.  (Ireland):— 

379.  Abstract  of Accounts  of  all Fines  and other penal  sums accounted for  in 1907 ;) 

printed  151 -

-

-

-

-

-

- 

(Sess. Papers, No. 144.) I 

160 

160 

529 

529 

by  Act. 

151 

FISHERIES   : —  


Board of Agriculture and Fisheries ;  v.  Accounts, Nos.  70-82. 


Fishery  Board  (Scotland) ;  v.  Accounts,  Nos.  381-383. 

Ireland: 


[ Order  of  last  Session  (15 th  December) for  Paper  to  lie  upon  the  Table,  in  pari  


discharged,  211.]  


•	 

380. Report  of  the  Department  of Agriculture  and  Technical Instruction  for Ireland>  Mag's

thereonfor 1908 -

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-

-

-

• -

-

• -

-

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-

- 

- / Command. 

F I S H E RY  BOARD  

(Scotland):— 

381.  Twenty-sixth  Annual Report  of  the  Board, being for 1907.  Part  III. (Scientific 	 (  King's
-

Investigations)  -

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-

-

-

-

-

-

-

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-

-

< Command 
(Recess). 
I 

382.  Twenty-seventh Annual Report  of the Board, being  for  1908.  Part  I.  (General i 

Report))  Command. 

King's 

383.  Ditto 

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- 

ditto 

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- 

ditto 

_ 

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F L E E TS  ( Great  Britain  and Foreign  Countries) :— 


-  Part  II.  (Salmon i 

King's 

Fisheries) J  Command. 


500 

5

204 

265 

384.  Return relative thereto;  printed  144 

-

-

- 

(Sess.  Papers,  No,  137.) 

140 

144 

;  FOREIGN  AND  COLONIAL  PARCEL  POST  ;   v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos. 771-773. 

i  FOREIGN  AND  COLONIAL  P O S T;   v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos. 774-777. 

FOREIGN  COUNTRIES  (  Preference  to  Colonies) :— 
-
385.	  Return  relative thereto ;  printed 494 

[  FOREIGN  JURISDICTION  A C T,  1 8 90  :•— 

-

. 

» 

(Sess. Papers,  No.  296.) 

1 by  Order  of 
•<  last  Sessum,  494 
I  8 December. 

386.  Order in Council entitled the Swaziland Crown Lands and Minerals Order,  1908 
387.  Orders  in Council relating  to the East Africa and Southern Nigeria Protectorates, 
-

and to  Sierra  Leone  and Somaliland 

-

-

-

-

-

-	

by  Act. 

by  Act, 

6 

45 

V O L.   164. 

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A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S —   c o n t i n u e d. 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

FOREIGN  JURISDICTION  A C T,  1 8 9 0 —  c o n t i n u e d. 

388.  Order  in Council entitled the Northern Nigeria Order, 1909  -
by  Act. 
389. Orders  in Council entitled the Siam Order, 1909, and the China and Corea (Consular |  by  Act. 

-

-

-

-

Fees) Order, 1909	 

-J 
390.  Orders  in Council relating  to Southern Rhodesia, Cyprus, and Northern Nigeria  -
391.  Eight Orders  in Council relating  to various places  -	

- 

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-

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FOREIGN  TRADE  AND  COMMERCE   : — 

392.  Accounts relating  to the Trade  and Commerce  of  certain Foreign  Countries  and j 
-) 
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British Possessions 

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-

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-

-

-

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FORESHORES   : — 

393.  Treasury  Minute directing  the application  of  Moneys received  in respect  of  the} 

rights and interests of the Crown  in Foreshores, for  the  year ending 31st March V  by  Act. 
1909 

- ' 

"  -

-j 

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-

-

-

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-

F R E N CH  CUSTOMS  T A R I F F :— 

394.  Translation of proposed new Tariff 

-

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-

-

-

-

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-

F R I E N D LY  SOCIETIES,  W O R K M E N 'S  COMPENSATION  SCHEMES,  INDUSTRIAL  AND  P R O V I­

DENT  SOCIETIES,  AND  T R A DE  U N I O NS  :  —  


(  King's
- •<  Command 

( 

(Recess). 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

3 6 

1 95 

3 02 

3 80 

5 02 

3 91 

5

395.  Reports of the Chief Registrar of Friendly Societies for 1908 ; printed 114 

-) 
(Sess. Papers, No. 105.) J 

-

by  Act.

1 1  4 

G A L W AY   : — 

Queen's College;  v. Accounts,  No.  825. 

University  Colleye;  v. Accounts,  No. 492. 

G A M B IA  (Colonial Reports)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO. 172. 

G AS  AND  W A T ER  O R D E R S :— 

396.  Report of Proceedings under the Gas and Water Works Facilities Act, 1870, during [  Mng's 

the Session of 1909 

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-

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.i 

Command.

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G AS  AND  W A T ER  W O R KS  F A C I L I T I ES  A C T,  1 8 70   : — 

397.  Report by the Board of Trade under the Act;  printed 251  (Sess. Papers, No. 202.) 

by  Aot. 

2 51 

G AS  UNDERTAKINGS   : — 

398.  Return relating  to  all  authorised  Gas Undertakings  in the United Kingdom, other  (  by  Order  of 

than those  of Local Authorities, for 1907 ; printed 220 -  (Sess. Papers, No. 180.) 	

•<  last Session, 
1  31  July.  


G AS  UNDERTAKINGS  

(LocalAuthorities):— 

399.  Return  relating  to  all  authorised  Gas  Undertakings  in  the  United  Kingdom 

by  Order  of 
belonging to Local Authorities, for the year ended 31st March 1908 ; printed 220 - last Session, 
31  July. 

(Sess. Papers, No, 181.)] 

2 2  0 

2 20 

G AS  UNDERTAKINGS   : — 

400.	  Return  relating  to  all  authorised  Gas  Undertakings  in  the  United  Kingdom,  other) 

than those  of Local Authorities, for 1908; printed 527 -  (Sess. Papers, No. 310.) ) 

2 32 

5 27 

G AS  UNDERTAKINGS   (Local Authorities)  :— 

401.  Return  relating  to  all  authorised  Gas  Undertakings  in  the  United  Kingdom] 

belonging  to Local Authorities, for the year ended 25th March 1909 ;  printed  527 I 

(Sess. Papers, No. 311.)) 

GENERAL  LIGHTHOUSE  F U ND   : — 

402.  Accounts for the year ended 31st March 1909 ; printed 547 

-

-

-

. 

- , 

(Sess. Papers, No. 339.) J 

GENERAL  PRISONS   (Ireland)  A C T,  1 8 7 7,  AND  PREVENTION   OF  CRIME  A C T,  1 9 0 8 :— 

403.  Order  in  Council  approving  Regulations  made  by  the  General  Prisons Board in i 
_/ 
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Ireland 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

. 

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-

-

-

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GERMAN  PROTECTORATES  ;  T>. ACCOUNTS,  NO.  2 0 4. 

Treaty  Series ;  v. Accounts,  No.  1090. 

G E R M A NY  ( Treaty  Series);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  1101,  1 1 0 8,  1 1 1 1,  1 1 1 6. 

2 32 

5 27 

by  Act. 

5 47 

by  Act. 

4 79 

GIBRALTAR  (Colonial  Reports);  v. ACCOUNTS,  No.  163. 

G L E BE  L A N D;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  8 6 8. 

GOLD	  COAST  (Colonial  Reports) ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  1 6 7,  1 7 6. 

GOVERNMENT  DEPARTMENTS   (Contracts)  :—  


404.  Return relative thereto ; printed 7  -

-

-

-

GOVERNMENT  DEPARTMENTS   (Ireland)  :—  


j by  Order  of  

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 10.) •<  last Session, 

( 

19  Nov.  


7

405.  Return relative thereto; printed 545 

-

-

-

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 326.) 

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GOVERNMENT  DEPARTMENTS  SECURITIES   : — 
406. Return relative thereto ;  printed 168 

GOVERNMENT  INSURANCES  AND  A N N U I T I ES  :•— 

-

-

-

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 135.) 

109 

16 8 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

407. Account  of  all  Moneys received,  and  of the disposal thereof, &c., in the year 1908 ; i 
(Sess. Papers, No. 90.) J 

printed 9 3 -

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-

-

-

-

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93 

GOVERNMENT  L A B O R A T O R Y :— 

408.  Report of the Principal Chemist on the Work of the Government Laboratory for the i King's

year ending 31st March 1909, with Appendices  

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) 

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G R E EK  LOAN  — 

409. Account up to 31st December 1908;  printed  25 

G R E EK  L O AN   OF  1898

• 
410. Account up  to 31st March 1909

— 

: 

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GREENWICH  HOSPITAL  A C T,  1 8 65   : — 

411.  Order in Council under the Act 

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GREENWICH  HOSPITAL  AND  TRAVERS'  FOUNDATION   : — 

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-

-

303022 

25 

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 45.) 

by  Act. 

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-

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-

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-

-

by  Act. 

108 

by  Act. 

544 

412.  Accounts for the year ended 31st March 1908, with Report  of the Comptroller and >  byby  Aet.Aet. 

Auditor General; printed 6

.

_ 

-

_ 

_ 

-

413.  Statement  of estimated Income and Expenditure for 1909-10 ;  printed 302 

(Sess. Papers, No. 2.) J
-) 
(Sess. Papers, No. 228.) 1 

-

byby  Act.Act. 

66

303022

G R E E N W I CH  OBSERVATORY   : — 

414,  Report  of the Astronomer  Royal  to the  Board of  Visitors,  1909 

-

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King's
''  King's
Command. 
|| Command.

292 

H A R B O U R S:  — 

Arhlow Harbour;  v.  Accounts,  No. 23. 
Arundel Port\  v. Accounts,  No.  55. 

Bridlington  Piers  and Harbour;  v. Accounts,  No.  120. 

Harwich Harbour;  v. Accounts,  No. 415. 

Peterhead Harbour;  v. Accounts,  No.  714. 

Ramsgate  Harbour;  v.  Accounts, No.  853. 

H A R W I CH  H A R B O UR   : — 

415.  Accounts of the Conservancy Board  to 31st March 1909 -

-

-

-

-

-

by  Aet, 

306 

H A Y TI  (  T r e a ty  Series); 

v.  ACCOUNTS,  N o.  1 1 0 3. 

H E A L TH   (Navy);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No. 680. 

H I GH  COURT  OF  JUSTICE  AND  COURT   OF  A P P E A L,  &C.   : — 

416.  Account showing Receipts and Expenditure during the year ended 31st March 1909 ;) 
(Sess. Papers, No. 114.) f 
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417.  Account showing Receipts and Expenditure during the year ended 31st March 1909;) 


printed 122 

printed  312

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-

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(Sess. Papers, No. 231.)  1  


byby  Act.Act. 

byby  Act.Act. 

121222

313122 

[ Order to lie upon the  Table  and to be printed discharged,  Paper withdrawn,  318.] 

H I GH  COURT   OF  JUSTICE  (King's  Bench Division)  (Sittings):— 

418.  Return relative thereto ;  Order discharged, 547 

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191 

HISTORICAL  MANUSCRIPTS   (Royal  Commission)  :— 

419.  Report  on  MSS.  of  the  Earl  of  Egmont,  Vol.  II.,  and  on  MSS.  in various) 
-1 
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Collections.  Vol. V. -

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-

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420.  Report of American MSS. in the Royal Institution.  Vol. IV. 

-

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421.  Index to Vols. I. and II.  of  MSS.  of the Marquis  of  Ormonde, K.P.,  at  Kilkenny I 
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-J 

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-

-

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-

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H O ME  ACCOUNTS   (East India)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No. 273. 

Castle 

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-

King's 
Command. 

(  King's
| Command. 

King's, 
Command. 

9988

306 

303066

H O NG  K O NG   ( Colonial Reports) ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  180. 

HOUSE   OF  COMMONS   : — 

Adjournment Motions under Standing Order No.  10;  v.  Accounts, No.  1. 
Business of  the House (Days  occupied by  Government and by  Private  Members) ; 

v. Accounts, No. 125. 

VOL.  164. 

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ACCOUNTS  AND  PAPERS—continued. 

HOUSE   OF  COMMONS—continued. 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

Closure of  Debate (Standing  Order No.  26);  v.  Accounts,  No.  153.  


Parliamentary  Papers;  v.  Accounts,  Nos. 696,  697.  


Private  Bills  and Private  Business;  v.  Accounts,  No.  789.  


Public Bills ;  v.  Accounts,  No.  797.  


Public Petitions;  v.  Accounts,  No.  805.  


Select Committees ;  v.  Accounts,  No.  874.  


Sittings of  the House;  v. Accounts,  No. 923.  


Standing Committees ;  v. Accounts,  No. 931.  


HOUSE   OF  LORDS   : — 

422.  Return relative thereto ;  printed546 

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(Sess. Papers, No. 335.) 

(  by  Address, 
I 

5 46 

5 46 

H O U SE   OF  LORDS  IFee  Fund);  v. ACCOUNTS,  NO. 

367. 

HOUSING  OF  THE  W O R K I NG  CLASSES  A C T,  1 8 9 0 :   — 

423.  Statement  of  modifications  permitted  in the  London  (Saint  Luke)  Improvement! 
- f 

Scheme, 1900 

by  Act. 

5 46 

H O U S I N G,  T O WN  PLANNING,  &C.  B I LL   : — 

424.  Return relative thereto; printed  84  ­

-

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 85.) 

8 4 

84 

H U M I D I FY  AND  VENTILATION   (Departmental  Committee)-.— 

425.  Report of the Committee, with Minutes of Evidence and Appendices 

HYDROGRAPHER'S  REPORT   (Navy)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  6 8 1. 

IMMIGRATION,  EMIGRATION  AND  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  N o.  3 1 5.  


(  King's

Command 
(Excess). 

( 

55 

IMPERIAL  COLLEGE   OF  SCIENCE  AND  TECHNOLOGY   : —  

  ­
426.  First Annual Report of the Governing Body

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-

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IMPERIAL  C O N F E R E N C E :— 

427.  Correspondence relating to Imperial General Staff

428.  Report of Conference on Defence of the Empire

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|  King's
)  Command. 

j  King's
| Command. 
(  King's
1  Command. 

98 

11 

5 3  0 

IMPERIAL  D E F E N CE   (Naval  Policy)  -. — 

429.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 378 

(Sess. Papers, No. 256.) 

3 73 

3 78 

IMPERIAL  INSTITUTE   (Colonial Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  166,  185. 

IMPERIAL  OTTOMAN  G U A R A N T E ED  L O AN   OF  1 8 5 5 :  — 

430.  Account for the year 1908 

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IMPERIAL  R E V E N UE   (Collection and Expenditure)  (Great  Britain  and Ireland) :— 

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by  Act. 

7 

431. Return relative thereto for the year ended 31st March 1909; printed 277 

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- i 

(Sess. Papers, No. 223.) I 

125 

2 77 

IMPORTS  AND  EXPORTS   AT  PRICES   OF  1 9 0 0 :  — 

432.  Tables showing Statistics for the years 1900-8  

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|  King's 
| Command. 

4 34

IMPORTS,  EXPORTS  A N D  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  3 3 7. 

IMPOSTS,  T A X ES  A N D;  V.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  9 8 1. 

INCOME  AN®  EXPENDITURE   (East  India);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  2 7 4. 

INDIA  O F F I CE  ESTABLISHMENT   : — 

433.  Order  in Council relating to Salaries and Appointments 

-

by  Act. 

6 

INDUSTRIAL  AND  PROVIDENT  SOCIETIES   (Friendly Societies);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  3 9 5. 

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INEBRIATES  ACTS  (Inspector's  Report) 

(Ireland):— 

434.  Fifth Report of the Inspector under the Acts, for 1908  ­

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INEBRIATES  A C TS   (Scotland)  :— 

435.  Report of the Inspector under the Acts for 1908

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| Command. 


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( Command. 

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Ordered. 

Presented. 

INEBRIATES  A C TS   (Scotland) (Departmental  Committee) -.— 
-

436.  Report of the Committee, with Appendices 

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-

-

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I N L A ND  R E V E N U E :— 

437.  Treasury Warrant appointing a Special Commissioner of Income  Tax  	
438.  Fifty-second Report of the Commissioners, for the year ending 31st March 1909 

I N Q U I RY  INTO  C H A R I T I ES   : — 

Berks,  County  of: 

439.  Further Return relative thereto;  printed  58 -

-  (Sess. Papers, No.  67.) 

440.  Ditto 

-  ditto 

- printed 398 

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 264,) 

441.  Ditto 

-  ditto 

- printed 488 

-  ( Sess, Papers, No. 294.) 

Command. 

by  Act. 

j  King's
(  Command-. 

by  Order  of 
28  March 
1905. 
by, Order, tff
28  March 
1905. 

by  Order  of 
28  March 
1905. 

442.  Ditto 

-  ditto 

- printed 545 

Bury,  County Borough  of: 
443.  Return relative thereto ; printed 207  	

Devon,  County  of: 

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 328.)  I;  2g --  •-­

by  Order  of 

1905. 

-  (Sess. Papers, No, 174.) 

187 

444.	  Further  Return  relative  thereto  ;  printed  57  -

- 

(Sess,  Papers,  No.  66.) 

445.	  Ditto 

446.	  Ditto 

447.  Ditto 

-

-

-

-  ditto 

- printed 207  -

- 

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  173.) 

-  ditto 

- printed 353  -

- 

(Sess. Papers,  No.  244.) 

-  ditto 

-

printed 364  -

- 

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  252.) 

448.	  Ditto 

-  ditto 

- printed 488  -

- 

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  293.) 

449.	  Ditto 

-

-  ditto 

- printed 528  -

- 

(Sess.  Papers,  No,  312.) 

450.	  Ditto 

-  ditto 

- printed 545  -

- 

(Sess.  Papers,  No. 327.) 

by  Order  of 
26  July
1905. 
by  Order  of 
26  July
1905. 

by  Order  of 
26  July
1905. 
by  Order  of 
26  July
1905. 

by  Order  of. 
26  July
19(15.  ' 

by  Order  of 
26  July
1905. 
by. Order  of 
'  26  July

1905. 

Exeter,  County Borough  of: 

451.  Return relative thereto : printed  23 

Plymouth,  County Borough  of: 

452.  Return relative thereto ; printed 488 

Wilts,  County  of: 

(  by  Order  vf 
-  (Sess. Papers, No.  37.)  -v  last Session, 
I 9 Dee.  1908, 

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 295.) 

430 

453.  Further Return relative thereto; printed 207 

-  (Sess, Papers, No. 172.) 

i by  Order 
\  9 Aug.  1901. 

I N T ER  -  D E P A R T M E N T AL 

C O M M I T T EE  

(Partial  Exemption 

from  School  Attendance) • 

v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  6 9 9,  7 0 0.	  

INTERMEDIATE  EDUCATION  

(Ireland):— 

454.  Report of the Intermediate Education Board for 1908  
455.  Time Table of Examinations for 1909 
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456.  Accounts  of Receipts and Expenditure of the Board for 1908 ;  printed 395 

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_ 
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; » 

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by  Act. 

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-1 

457.  Rules and Programme of Examinations for 1910 ;  printed  139 

-

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INTERNATIONAL  A G R I C U L T U R AL 

I N S T I T U T E :— 

458.  Papers and Correspondence relative thereto  	

(Sess. Papers, No. 129.) (

by  Act.

King's 

(Sess. Papers, No. 261.)J 

by  Act.

I N T E R N A T I O N AL  CONGRESS   (Tuberculosis)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1 1 3 2. 

INTERNATIONAL  E X H I B I T I O NS   OP  BRUSSELS,  R O M E,  AND  T U R IN   (Royal  Commission)  •. 

459.  Treasury Minute relative thereto  -

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-

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. 

. 

_ 

' _ 

< Act. 

INTERNATIONAL  N A V AL  CONFERENCE   (Miscellaneous,  No.  4, 1909)  :— 

460.  Correspondence and Documents relating thereto 

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VOL. 

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A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S —   c o n t i n u e d. 

INTERNATIONAL  N A V AL  CONFERENCE   (Miscellaneous, No.  5,  1 9 0 9 ) :— 

461. Proceedings of the  Conference 

INTERNATIONAL  O F F I CE   OF  PUBLIC  H E A L TH   (Treaty  Series)•,v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos.  1 0 9 7,  


1 1 1 3 , 1 1 1 9. 


IRELAND  DEVELOPMENT  G R A NT  A C T,  1 9 0 3 :— 

462.  Report of Proceedings under the Act for the year ended 31st March 1909 

IRISH  HOUSING  F U ND   : — 

463. Treasury Minute relating thereto  -

IRISH  L A ND  A C T,  1 9 03   : — 

464. Return relative thereto ;  printed 195 

-

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-

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-

-

-

-

-

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-  (Sess. Papers, No. 166.) 

465. Report of the Estates  Commissioners  for the year ending 31st March  1909, and fori 
-I 

the period from 1st November 1903 to 31st March 1909 
466.  Regulations amending the Rules and Regulations of 1905 

-
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-

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IRISH  L A ND  C O M M I S S I O N :— 

467.  Index to Estates comprised in the Returns for the year 1908 -

468.  Report for the year ended 31st March 1909 

-

-

469,  Return of Advances made under the Irish Land Act, 1903,  during May,  June, and 

July 1908 

470.  Ditto 

471.  Ditto 

472.  Ditto 

-

-

-

Account: 

ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

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-

-

October 1908 

-

November  1908 

December  1908 

473.  Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General upon the Account of the Irish Land 
Commission for the year ended 31st March 1908, with Accounts;  printed 42 -

(Sess. Papers, No.  56.)

Church Temporalities  (Ireland)  ;  v.  Accounts,  No.  140. 

Proceedings: 

474.  Return of Proceedings under the Land Law (Ireland) Acts, &c. during the month  of 

475. Ditto 

476. Ditto 

477. Ditto 

478. Ditto 

479. Ditto 

480.  Ditto 

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481. Ditto 

482. Ditto 

483. Ditto 

484. Ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

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- December 1908 
January 1909 -

February 1909 

March 1909 

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- April 1909 

May 1909 

- June 1909 

- July 1909 

- August 1909  -

September 1909 

I R I SH  L A ND  COMMISSION   (Rules)  :— 

485. Rules made under the Irish Land Purchase Acts  -

-

-

-

I R I SH  L A ND  PURCHASE  F U N D :  — 

486. Accounts for the year ended 31st March 1908, with Report  of the Comptroller  and > 
-

Auditor General; printed 58

  (Sess. Papers, No. 69.)) 

- 

-

-

-

I R I SH  L A ND  S T O C K :— 

487. Return relative thereto ; printed 437 

-

-

-

- (Sess. Papers, No. 279.) 

IRISH  R A I L W A YS  (  Viceregal  Commission) :— 

488.  Second Appendix to Fourth Report  of the Commission  ­

Presented, 

68 

162 

4 5  8 

19 5 

4 2  0 

4 25 

5 3  0 

3 7  0 

5

9 8 

168 

4 22 

4 2 

10 

3 4 

4 0 

108 

4 28 

4 3  3 

4 8  6 

4 91 

5 13 

5 28 

5 30 

6 9 

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A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E RS  —continued. 	

I R I SH  U N I V E R S I T I ES  A C T,  1 9 08   : — 

489.  Statute for the National University;  printed  187  -
490.  Ditto  -

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 160.) 
-  University College, Dublin ; printed 187 -  (Sess. Papers, No. 161.) 

491.	  Ditto  -

- 

ditto  -

- 

Cork  ;  printed  187 

- 

(Sess. Papers,  No.  162.) 

- 

492.  Ditto  -
493.  Statutes for the Queen's University  of Belfast;  printed  187 (Sess. Papers, No. 164.) 
494.  Ditto  -

-  University College, Dublin ; printed 509 

-  Galway ; printed 187 

(Sess. Papers, No. 163.) 

(Sess. Papers, No. 300.) 	

ditto  -

Ordered. 

Presented. 

by  Act.

by  Act, 

by  Aet. 

by  Act, 

by  Act.

by  Ait. 

495.  Report to accompany Statutes made under the Act

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-

-

-

-

-

-	

King's 
Command, 

I S LE   OF  M AN   : — 

496.  Account of Revenue and Expenditure for year ended 31st March 1909, with Report)  by  Act. 

of the Comptroller and Auditor General; printed 265 

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 211.)) 

I T A LY 

(  Treaty  Series)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos.  1 0 9 3,  1 1 2 1. 

J A M A I CA   : — 

497.  Further Correspondence relating to the Earthquake at Kingston 

Colonial Reports;  v. Accounts,  No. 170. 

J U D I C I AL  STATISTICS   : — 

England and  Wales: 

498.  Judicial Statistics for England and Wales for 1907.  Part I. (Criminal) -

-

Ireland-,  v. Accounts, Nos. 219, 220. 

Scotland -. 

499.  Judicial Statistics, Scotland, for 1908 

-

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J U V E N I LE  OFFENDERS   (.Detention  and Maintenance) :— 

500.  Rules as  to Places of Detention under the Children Act, 1908 	

King's
Command,

King's
Command, 

|  Command. 

K I N G 'S  B E N CH  JUDGES   : — 

501.  Return relative thereto ; printed 546 

-	

(Sess. Papers, No. 336.)  ( 

(  by  Address, 
546 

K I N G 'S  COLLEGE,  L O N D O N,  T R A N S F ER  COMMISSION   : — 

502.  Statutes and Regulations for University of London King's College ; printed 266 

503.  Statutes for University  of London King's College for Women ; printed 266  -

(Sess. Papers, No. 214.) J 
- i 
(Sess. Papers, No. 215.) 1 
504.  Statutes and Regulations  for Theological Department of King's College, London; \ 

- )  by  Aet. 

printed 266 -

-

-	 

505.  Statutes for King's College School, Wimbledon ; printed 266 -

(Sess. Papers, No.'216.) J 
- i 
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(Sess. Papers, No. 217.) I 


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L A B O UR  D E P A R T M E NT   {Board  of  Trade) ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS. 114-116, 939. 


L A B O UR  E X C H A N G ES  B I L L :  — 

506.  Statement showing Financial Proposals in connection therewith 

by  Act.

by  Act.

by  Act.

Command, 

LABOURERS  (Ireland)  A C TS   : —  


507.  Return relative thereto; printed 89	

-

-

-

-

L A N C A S T E R  ,  D U C H  Y  OF  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS ,  NO .  2 5 6  . 

L A N C A S T E  R   : — 

Polling Districts ;  v. Accounts, Nos. 731-733. 
Public Records ;  v. Accounts,  No. 812. 

L A N  D  L A  W  (Ireland)  A C T  ,  1 8 8  7  (Eviction Notices)  :— 

by  Order  of  

(Sess. Papers, No. 87.)  last  Session, 

14  Deo. 

508.  Return of Eviction Noticesfiled during the quarter ended 31st December  1908 

Command 

509. Ditto 

510. Ditto 

511. Ditto 

L A N  D  R E G I S T R  Y   : — 

ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

ditto

  ­

ditto

ditto  ­

31st March 1909

30th June  1909 

30th September  1909 

512.  Account  showing  Receipts  and  Payments  for  the year  ending  31st  March  1909 

printed 117 

VOL. 164. 

Sess. 1909. 

- 

(Sess.  Papers,  No.  108.) J 

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ACCOUNTS  A ND  PAPERS—continued. 

L A ND  REGISTRY   (New  Buildings)  A C T,  1 9 00   : — 

513. Account showing  Money issued and expended and borrowed under the Act  for the )

period  ended  31st  March  1908,  with  Report  of  the  Comptroller  and  Auditor I 
(Sess.  Papers, No.  32.) J 
General;  printed  18 

-

-

-

-

-

-

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Ordered. 

Presented. 

by  Act. 

18 

L A ND  REVENUES,  WOODS,  FORESTS,  A N D;  V.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  1178,  1 1 7 9. 

L A ND  TRANSFER  A C TS   (Royal  Commission)  :— 

514. First Report of the Commissioners, with Minutes of E vidence and Appendices -

Sing's
ff  Sing's
Command. 
]] Command.

6 

L E E W A RD  ISLANDS   (Colonial  Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  159, 

LEPROSY  (International  Scientific Conference  of 1909): — 
515. Reports from His Majesty's Delegates thereto  

LIBERIA  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  2 0 3,  


LICENSED  P R E M I S E S:  — 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

Sing's 
[[  Sing's
Command. 

\\ Command.

486

LICENSING  STATISTICS   : — 

517.  Statistics as to the operation and administration  of  the Laws relating to the sale of \ 

L I F  E  ASSURANCE  COMPANIES   : — 

518.  Accounts of Life Assurance Companies for 1908 ; printed  98 -

-
(Sess. Papers, No. 91.) I 

-

-

-i 

LIGHTHOUSE  F U ND  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  4 0 2. 

LIGHTHOUSES,  &C.  (Local  Inspections)  :— 

519.  Reports to the Board of Trade  of Inspections of Local Lighthouses, &c.;  printed  16 i 

(Sess. Paper's, No. 25.) 1 

L I G HT  R A I L W A YS  A C T,  1 8 96   : — 

520. Report of  Proceedings  of  the Board  of  Trade under  the  Act,  and  of the Light i 

Railway Commissioners, for 1908 ; printed  106 

(Sess. Papers, No. 97.) J 
Orders made  by the  Light  Railway Commissioners, and confirmed,  or modified and 

-

-

488 

King's 
Command. 

1 06

byby  Act.Act. 

9988

byby  Act,Act,

16 

by  Act. 

106

confirmed,  by  the  Board  of  Trade,  in  pursuance  of 
construction of  certain Light Railways : 

the  Act  authorising  the 

521. Barton and Immingham Light Railway Order, 1908 

-

-

-

(Amendment))) OrderOrderOrder,,, 
(Amendment
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526.  Shropshire and Montgomeryshire Light Railway Order, 1909 ­
527. Bath Electric Tramways (Light Railway Amendment) Order, 1909 
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530. Callington Light Railway (Amendment) Order, 1909 

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531.  Burry  Port and  Gwendreath  Valley  Railway  (Light  Railway)  Order,  1909 

532.  County  of Middlesex Light Railways (Extension  of Time) Order, 1909 ­
533.  Lampeter,  Aberayron,  and  New  Quay  Light  Railway  (Amendment)  Order,) 

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534. Aidershot and Farnborough Light Railway Order, 1909 

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L O AN  F U ND  B O A RD   (Ireland)  :— 

535.  Seventy-first Annual Report, 1908 

-

L O AN  SOCIETIES   : — 

536.  Abstract of Accounts for 1907 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

_ 

. 

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LOANS  RAISED   IN  ENGLAND  (East  India);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos. 276, 277. 

LOANS  RAISED   IN  INDIA  (East  India)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  2 7 8. 

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5 7  5  . 

A C C O U N TS  A ND  PAPERS— continued. 

Ordered.  Presented. 

L O C AL  AUTHORITIES   ( Gas  Undertakings)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos. 399, 401. 

L O C AL  CONTRIBUTIONS  

(Ireland):— 

537.  Return relative thereto for 1907-8;  printed  404 

538.  Ditto 

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for 1908-9;  printed 404 

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-

. -

(Sess.  Papers,  No. 268.) 

(Sess.  Papers,  No. 269.) 

58 

58 

404 

404 

L O C AL  GOVERNMENT  A C T,  1888   : — 

539.  Orders made  by the various County and County Borough Councils in England and i 
-1 

Wales under the Act,  as confirmed  by the Local Government Board 

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540.  Order made  by the County Council of Hertford, as confirmed by the Local Govern-; 

ment Board 

-

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by  Act, 

byby  Aet.Aet. 

L O C AL  GOVERNMENT  B O A R D :— 

541.  Supplement  to Thirty-seventh  Annual  Report, containing  Report  of  the Medical i 

-

King's 

-1  Command. 

Officer for 1907-8	 

542.  Thirty-eighth Annual Report, 1908-9.  Part  1.  	

J  King's 
| Command. 

543.  Ditto  -
544544..  Supplemen

ditto -
Supplementt  ttoo  Thirty-eight

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Thirty-eighthh  Annua

- Part 11.	 

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Annuall  Report

Report,, containin

(  King's
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containingg  ReporReportt  ooff  ththee MedicaMedicall >>  King's 
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OfficeOfficerr foforr 1908-

1908-99	 

545.  Supplement  in continuation of  Thirty-eighth Annual Report, referring to manufac- i 
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ture of Ferro-Silicon  -

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-

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King's 
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Ireland: 

546.  Annual Report for the year ended 31st March 1909  
547.  Order entitled the Labourers (Ireland) Order, 1909 

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-

-

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(  King's
J  Command. 

548.  Order entitled the  Polling  Districts  and Polling  Places  Order,  1909 

-	

Scotland : 

549. Fourteenth Annual Report, for 1908  
550.  Supplement to Fourteenth Annual Report, for 1908  
551.  Return of the Areas, Population, and Valuation  of Counties, Burghs, and Parishes i  King's
King's 
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f  King's
( Command. 
(  King's 
( Command. 

in  Scotland 

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by  Aet. 

by  Act. 

479

545466

136

330

494

515111

535300

369

289 

509 

195 

486

222255

LOCAL  LOANS  F U ND   : — 

552.  Accounts of Receipts and Payments  in respect  of  the  Local  Loans  Fund for the) 

yeayearr  endeendedd  31s31stt  MarcMarchh  19081908,,  witwithh  ReporReportt  ooff  ththee  Comptrolle
(Sess.. Papers
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Comptrollerr  anandd Auditor

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L O C AL  REGISTRATION   OF  T I T LE   ( Ireland)  A C T,  1 8 9 1 :— 

553.  Order under the Act, dated 28th November 1908  	

554.  Rule under the Act  as  to Writ of Fi. Fa. 

-

«,

 .  -	

L O C AL  REGISTRATION   OF  T I T LE  (  I r e l a n d  )  A C T S,  1 8 91  AND  1 9 0 8 :— 

by  Aet. 

70

by  Act. 

by  Act, 

10 

423 

ly  Aet. 

452 


L O C AL  T A X A T I ON  A C C O U N T,  1 9 0 8 - 9,  AND  LOCAL  T A X A T I ON  L I C E N C E S :— 

556. Return relative thereto; printed 529 

-	

(Sess. Papers, No. 314.) 

529 

529 

L O C AL  T A X A T I ON   ( Ireland)  ACCOUNT   ; — 

557. Account of Receipts and Payments for the year ending 31st March 1908 ;  printed 6 i 


(Sess. Papers, No. 3.) 1 

byby  Act.Act. 

L O C AL  T A X A T I ON   (Ireland)  RETURNS   : —  


(  King's 
<  Command 
(Recess). 
(Recess).
(( 

6 


101088 

LOCAL  T A X A T I ON  LICENCES,  1 9 0 8 -9   : — 

559.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 529 

-	

LOCAL  T A X A T I ON  RETURNS   (England  and  Wales)-.— 

(Sess. Papers, No. 315.) 

529 

529 

560. Annual Local Taxation Returns for 1906-7.  Part III.;  printed  150 

561. Ditto	 

562.  Ditto 

-

-

- ditto  -

- ditto 

-

-

-

for 1906-7.  Part  IV.;  printed 176 

-

-

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(Sess. Papers, No. 140.) I 
-> 
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(Sess. Papers, No. 153.) J 

-

for 1906-7.  Parts VI.  and VII.;  printed 363  ••> 
(Sess. Papers, No. 248.) J 

by  Act. 

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byby Act.Act.

151500 

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A L C C O U N TS  A N  D  P A P E R S —  c o n t i n u e d. 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

L O C AL  T A X A T I ON  RETURNS   (England  and  Wales)—continued. 

563.  Annual Local Taxation Returns for 1906-7.  Parts V. and VIII.;  printed 498 

- > 

564. Ditto 

565.  Ditto 

-

-

- ditto  -

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for 1907-8.  Part  I. ; printed 500 

- ditto  -

•  for 1907-8.  Part II.:  printed 544 

(Sess. Papers, No. 298.) J 
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(Sess. Papers, No. 299.) J 
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LOCAI,  T A X A T I ON  

(Scotland):— 

566566.. AnnuaAnnuall LocaLocall Taxatio

Taxationn ReturnReturnss (Scotland

(Scotland)) foforr 1907-

LOCAL  T A X A T I ON   (Scotland)  ACCOUNT   : — 

1907-88 ;;  printed
(Sess.. Papers
(Sess

printed 424222 

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Papers,, NoNo.. 273.)273.)JJ 

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567. Return showing statutory Provisions and Payments for 1908-9 

-

-

(  King's
| Command. 

LOCK-OUTS,  STRIKES  AN©  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  N o.  9 3 9. 

LONDON  (Polling  Districts)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos.  7 3 4 - 7 3 8. 

by  Aet.

by  Aet. 

byby  Aet.Aet. 

by  Aet. 

498 

500

545444

422

433 

LONDON  COUNTY  COUNCIL   : — 
568568.. ReturReturnn  showing

showing,,  uupp  ttoo 31s31stt  MarcMarchh 19091909,,  amoun
tiotiouu ooff MoneMoneyy raiseraisedd  bbyy sucsuchh StockStock,, &c.&c.,, anandd Estimat
Council for the year ending 31st March 1910 ;  printed 209  -

amountt  ooff  Consolidate

Estimatee ooff  ththee Expenditur

Expendituree ooff  ththee II 

-1 

-

-

Consolidatedd  StockStock,, applica-

applica-ii  


byby  Act.Act. 

202099

(Sess. Papers, No. 175.)' 

LONDON  C O U N TY  COUNCIL  M O N EY  B I LL   : — 

569.  Report by the Treasury thereon ;  referred  to the Committee on the Bill, 232 

1 pursuant  to
|  S.O.  194c. 

232 

LONDON  ELECTIONS  B I LL   : — 

570.  Return relative thereto; printed 140 

-

(Sess. Papers, No, 133.) 

140 

140 

LONDON  (Equalisation  of  Rates)  ACT,  1 8 94  (Accounts  under Section  1  ( 7)  of  the Act)  :— 
571. Return relative thereto for the year ended 31st March 1909 ; printed 535 

-

- ) 

(Sess. Papers, No. 319.) J 

353 

535

LONDON  QUARTER  SESSIONS  (  Departmental  Committee):— 
572. Report of the Committee thereon.  Vols. I. and II.

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-

-

-

-

Loss  OF  L I FE   AT  S EA   : — 

573. Return of Loss of Life at Sea during the years 1891 to 1908, inclusive  -

-

-

-

King's

||  King's
Command. 
11 Command.

391

(  King's
(  Command, 

373 

L U N A CY   : — 

574.  Sixty-third Report of the Commissioners in Lunacy;  printed 266  -

- i 
-
(Sess. Papers, No. 213.) J 
575.  Report  by the  Visitors  of  Lunatics  of  the number  of  Visits made, the number of)

byby  Act.Act. 

Patients  seen,  and the number  of Miles  travelled  by  the said Visitors, between >  byby  Aet.Aet. 
1st October 1908 and 31st March 1909 

J 

576. Return  of the number  of  Visits made, and the number  of  Patients  seen,  by the) 
-1 
Commissioners  in Lunacy  during the six months ending 3lst  December  1908 

577.  Ditto  -
578.  Return  of all  sums received  by  the  Visitors of Lunatics for Travelling Expenses, i
-J 

&c. from 1st January to 31st December 1908 

- 30th June 1909 

- ditto  -

- ditto  -

-

-

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-

-

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-

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by  Act. 

by  Aet. 

by  Act. 

262666

151511

88

369 

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Ireland  : 

579.  Fifty-eighth Report of the Inspectors,  for  1908,  with Appendices 

-

Scotland: 

580.  Fifty-first Report of the General Board of Commissioners 

L U N A T IC  ASYLUMS   (Escape  of  Patients  at  Epsom)  :— 

582. Report thereon 

-

-

-

M A C H I N E RY  AND  ENGINEERING  STAFFS   AT  POOR  L AW  INSTITUTIONS   (Departmental


Committee): — 


583.  Report of the Committee, with Appendices and Index  -

MAGISTRATES  ( Ireland):— 

M A L TA  (Colonial Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  173. 

(  King's
| Command. 

6 

414 

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84 

King's 
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294

(  King's
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5 77  . 

A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S —c o n t i n u e d. 

M A R R I A G E S,  B I R T H S,  AND  D E A T HS   : — 

Births,  Deaths, and Marriages ;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  66-69. 

England and  Wales: 

585.  General Abstract  of Marriages,  Births, and Deaths in England  and Wales  in  1908 

Ireland: 

586.  Forty-fifth detailed  Annual Report,  1908 

M A U R I T I US  (Colonial Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  N O.  1 8 3. 

M E C H A N I C AL  TRANSPORT   I N

587.  Papers  relating  thereto

S :— 
  T HE  C O L O N I E
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-

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M E D I C AL  A C T,  1 8 86   : — 

588.  Representations  to  the Privy  Council  under the Act

-

-

-

-

-

Ordered. 

Presented. 

f King's

|  Command.  


72 

2 99 

King's

Command 

(Recess). 


206 

by  Aot,  


2 48 

M E D I C AL  COUNCILS   : — 

589.	  Accounts  of  the General  Medical  Council, Branch Councils,  and Dental  Registration » 
1 

Fund for  1908 

by  Ant,  


60 

M  EDW  A T  CONSERVANCY   : — 

590.  Accounts  of  the  Conservancy  Board for  the year  ending  25th March  1909 

by  Act.  


173 

M E R C A N T I LE  M A R I NE   (Foreign-going Agreements)  :— 

• 591.	  Return  relative thereto;  printed  173 

M E R C A N T I LE  M A R I NE   (Sight  Tests')  :— 

- 

(Sess. Papers,  No.  150.) 

126 

172 

592.	  Report  to  the  Board of  Trade  upon  Sight  Tests  used  in  the  Mercantile  Marine, 

for the year ending  31st December  1908

-

-

-

-

-

-

Command. 


3 84 

M E R C H A NT  SEAMEN'S  F U N D :  — 

593.	  Account  of Receipt  and Expenditure  under the  Seamen's  Fund  Winding-up  Act  for ) 
(Sess.  Papers,  No.  157.) J 

1908 ;  printed  184 

by  Act.  


184 

M E R C H A NT  S H I P P I NG   : — 

Casualties,  Shipping ;  v. Accounts,  No.  877.  

Loss of  Life  at  Sea;  v. Accounts,  No.  573.  

Mercantile Marine (Foreign-going Agreements) ;  v. Accounts,  No.  591.  

Mercantile Marine (Sight  Tests);  v. Accounts,  No.  592.  

Merchant Seamen's Fund;  v.  Accounts,  No.  593.  


M E R C H A NT  SHIPPING  A C T,   1894:— 

594.	  Orders  in  Council  (1)  relating  to  Pilotage  Rates for  London  and English  Channel 
Districts;  (2)  confirming  Pilotage  Byelaws made by  Humber Conservancy  Board; 
(3)  fixing  dues in respect  of  Looe  Pier  Head  Light;  (4)  relating   to  Port  Officers 
at the  Gilbert  and Ellice  and the  Solomon  Islands 

-

-

595.  Order in  Council  relating to  the  Navigation  of  the River  Hull 

-

-

596.	  Orders  in  Council  (1)  confirming Pilotage  Byelaws made  by  New  Ross  Harbour) 
(2)  confirming  the  Sydney  Harbour  Trust  and  Navigation > 
. _( 

Commissioners; 
Amendment  Act,  1908 

_ 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

by  Act.  


6 

by  Act.  


45 

by  Act. 

111 

M E R C H A NT  S H I P P I NG  A C T S,  1 8 94   t o  1 9 06   : — 

597.  Orders  in  Council  relating  to  German  and Norwegian  Ships

 -

598.  Ditto 

-

- 

ditto 

-  French and  Swedish  Ships

  -

-

-

-

-

-

_ 

-

-

-

by  Act. 

by  Act.  


380 
545 

M E R C H A NT  S H I P P I NG  A C T S,   1894  TO  1906  (Dispensing  Powers)-.— 

599.  Report by  the  Board  of  Trade  ;  printed  330 

-

-

- 

(Sess. Papers, No.  233.) 

by  Act.  


330 

M E R C H A NT  S H I P P I NG  A C T S,   1894  TO  1906 (Vessels  Detained) -.— 

600.  Return of  all  Ships  ordered by the  Board of  Trade  to  be  provisionally  detained  as i 
J 

unsafe, &c. from  1st July  1908 to 30th June  1909 

King's

Command. 


423 

M E R C H A NT  S H I P P I NG   (Desertion  of  Seamen) :— 
601.  Reports from certain  Ports thereon

M E R C H A NT  SHIPPING   (IJfe-Saving  Appliances)  : — 

602.  Report of  Advisory  Committee  thereon, with Appendices 

-

-

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-

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Command. 


159 

603.  Rules  made by  the  Board  of  Trade thereon 

-

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-

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Sess.  1909.  	

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A C C O U N TS  A ND  PAPERS—continued.  	

Ordered. 

Presented. 

M E R C H A NT  S H I P P I NG   (Mercantile  Marine  Fund)  A C T,   1898,  A ND  M E R C H A NT  S H I P P I NG 

ACT,  1894:—  


604.  Order  in  Council  altering  Scale of  Light  Dues

-

-

-

-

-

-

-	

M E R S EY  D O C KS  AND  H A R B O UR  B O A RD   : — 

605.  Accounts  for the  year ending  1st July  1909 

-

-

-

-	

M E T E O R O L O G I C AL  C O M M I T T EE   : — 

606.  Fourth Report of  the  Committee to the Treasury, for the year euding 31st March 1909 	

M E T R O P O L I T AN  C A T T LE  M A R K ET   : — 

607.  Accounts  for  1908, and  an Account  of  Works  executed 

-

-	

M E T R O P O L I T AN  P O L I CE   : — 

608.	  Accounts  of  the  Metropolitan  Police  and  Police  Pension  Funds  for the year ended ) 
(Sess. Papers,  No.  120.)J 

31st  March  1909;  printed 131 

M E T R O P O L I T AN  W A T ER  B O A RD   : — 

609.	  Annual  Report for the year  ended  31st  March  1908 ;  printed  114  -

-1 
-
(Sess.  Papers,  No.  103.) J 

- 

M E X I CO   (Treaty  Series)-, v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  1100,1102,  1113. 

M I D D L E S EX   (Polling  Districts) -, v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  739, 740. 

M I D W I V ES  A C T,  1 9 02   : — 

610.  Report  of  the  Central  Midwives  Board  from its formation to  31st March  1908  	
- 
611.  Ditto 

for the  year ending  31st  March  1909 

ditto 

- 

-

-

M I D W I V ES  A CT   (Departmental Committee) :— 

612.  Report  of  the  Committee.  Vols. I.  and  II. 

-

-

-

M I L I T A RY  PRISONS   : — 

613.  Report  on the  Discipline  and  Management thereof  in  1908 

M I L I T A RY  SAVINGS  B A N KS  ;  v.  A C C O U N T S,  N o s.  4 4,  6 3 7. 

M I L I T A RY  W O R KS  A C T S,  1 8 9 7,  1 8 9 9,  1 9 0 1,  AND  1 9 03

  : — 

-

-

-

-

-

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614.	  Accounts  for the period  ended the 31st  March  1908, with  Report  of  the  Comptroller) 
(Sess. Papers,  No.  19.) > 

and Auditor  General;  printed 8 

Estimate of  Expenditure under the Acts  ;  v. Accounts,  No.  45. 

M I L I T IA  A C T,  1 8 82   (Deputy Lieutenants) (Ireland)  :— 

615.	  Descriptions  of  Qualifications  lodged  with  the  Clerk  of  General  Meetings  of) 
- J 

Lieutenancy  in Ireland  in  1908 

M I N ES   : — 

Mines and  Quarries: 

616.  General Report  and Statistics for  1908.  Part 

I.  (District Statistics) 

617.  Ditto 

618.  Ditto 

- 

- 

ditto 

ditto 

- 

- 

for  1908.  Part  II.  (Labour)  -

-

for  1908.  Part  III.  (Output)  	

-	

-	

619.  Reports of  the  Inspectors  of  Mines for  1908

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

620.  General Report  and Statistics for  1907.  Part  IY.  (Colonial  and Foreign  Statistics)  	

Royal Commission: 

621.  Reports  of  Inquiry  on behalf  of  the  Commission

-	

-

-

-

-

-

622.  Minutes of Evidence  of  the  Commission,  with  Index  and Appendices.  Vol.  I V.  	

623.  Second  Report of  the Commission

  -
Shaft  Accidents in certain  Quarries : 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

624.  Report  on the  Accident  at the Dalbeath  Colliery,  Fifeshire 

-

-	

M I N I NG  R O Y A L T I ES   (Scotland)  :— 

624A.	  Return  relative  thereto 

-

-

-

-

-

_ 

-

-

_ 

. 

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M I NT	   : — 

625.  Thirty-ninth  Annual  Report of the  Deputy  Master of  the  Mint,  1908 

6 

4 91 

3 70 

68 

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1 14 

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2 48 

3 80 

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M I S C E L L A N E O US  P A P E RS   : — 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

No.  1, 1909 (Nationality and Naturalisation); v. Accounts, No. 649. 

No. 2, 1909 ( Convention  of  Berne);  v. Accounts, No. 202. 

No.  3, 1909 (Weekly Rest-Day Legislation);  v. Accounts, No. 1164. 

No. 4,  1909 (International Naval  Conference) ;  v. Accounts, No. 460. 

No. 5, 1909 (International Naval Conference);  v. Accounts, No. 461. 

No.  6, .1909 (Taxation of  Land  Values)  ;  v. Accounts, No. 980. 

No.  7, 1909 (Nationality and Naturalisation) ;  v. Accounts,  No. 650. 

No.  8, 1909 (Workmen's  Compensation for  Accidents) ;  v. Accounts, No.  1182. 

No.  9, 1909  (Arbitration (Treaties) );  v. Accounts, No. 21. 

MOROCCO  (Treaty  Series);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  1 1 2 0,  1 1 2 1. 

M O T OR  C AR  A C TS   : — 

626.  Order entitled the Motor Cars (Use and Construction) (Scotland) Order,  1909 
627.  Order regulating Motor Cars on certain Roads  in Ireland 
628.  Order rescinding certain Regulations in England  -
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630.  Ditto 
631.  Order prohibiting Motor Car Traffic  on certain Highways in Renfrew  ­

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632.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 206 

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N A T AL   : — 

633.  Further Despatches relating to the Trial of Dinizulu 

N A T I O N AL  D E BT   : — 

634.  Return relative thereto ; printed 122 
635.  Return  showing,  at the close  of  eachfinancial year  from  1835-6  to  1908-9,  the )

.  (Sess. Papers, No. 113.) 

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by  Address  

of  20  Dec.  

1906. 


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N A T I O N AL  D E BT  A N N U I T I ES   : — 

636.  Account  of  the gross  amount  of  all  Bank Annuities, and sums  of money  paid  to ]

the Commissioners for the Reduction  of  the  National Debt, &c. within the year t 
(Sess. Papers, No. 44.) ) 
ending 5th January 1909 ; printed  25 

<  Act.  


N A T I O N AL  D E BT   (Military  Savings  Banks) :— 

637.  Account of  all Moneys received and paid  by the Commissioners for the  Reduction j 

of  the  National  Debt,  &c.  from  19th  September  1845  to  5th January  1909; > 
(Sess. Papers, No. 31.) j 
printed  17 

'  Act.  


N A T I O N AL  D E BT   (Savings  Banks and Friendly Societies) :— 

638.  Account of all Sums received and paid  on account of Banks for Savings and Friendly 1 

Societies, in  Great Britain and Ireland, from 6th August 1817  to 20th November >  by  Act.
1908, &c.; printed 25

  (Sess. Papers, No. 43.) j 
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639.  Appendix, Section  I.,  to the Seventy-fourth Report of the Commissioners, 1907-8 

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642.  Seventy-fifth Report of the Commissioners, 1908-9

643.  Return relative thereto; printed 276 

N A T I O N AL  G A L L E R I ES   OF  SCOTLAND   : — 

644.  Treasury Minute thereon, dated February 1909 

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(Sess. Papers, No. 221.)  -i last  Session, 

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NATIONAL  G A L L E RY   (Ireland)  :—  


646.  Report of the Director for 1908 

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Ordered. 

Presented. 

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647.  Report of  the Director for  1908;  printed 117  -

(Sess. Papers,  No.  107.) 

114 

117 

N A T I O N AL  INCOME  AND  OUTGO   (changed from  NATIONAL  E X P E N D I T U R E)   : — 
printed  9988 --

648648.. ReturReturnn relativ

thereto;; printed

relativee thereto

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N A T I O N A L I TY  AND  NATURALISATION   : —  


Miscellaneous, No.  1, 1909 : 

649. Translation of further Decree regulating Naturalisation of Aliens in Brazil 

Miscellaneous,  No.  7,  1909 : 
650. Despatch relative to Belgian Nationality 

NATIONAL  MUSEUMS   (.Expenditure on Sites,  8fc.) :— 
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651. Return relative thereto ;  printed 102 

NATIONAL  PHYSICAL  LABORATORY   : — 

652.  Return relative thereto ; printed 106 

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N A T I O N AL  PORTRAIT  G A L L E RY   : — 

653.  Fifty-second Annual Report of the Trustees, for 1908  9 -

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654.  Accounts of Receipts and Payments for 1908 -

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N A V AL  AND  M A R I NE  P AY  AND  PENSIONS  A C T,  1 8 65   : — 

655.  Orders  in  Council  approving  Memorials  of  the Admiralty  for  sanctioning certain \ 

payments, &c.

656.  Ditto  -

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N A V AL  EXPENDITURE   (Principal  Naval  Powers):— 
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(Sess. Papers, No. 251.) 

155 

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N A V AL  P R I ZE  M O N EY   : — 

665.  Accounts of Naval Prize Money, &c. for the year ending 31st March 1909 

N A V AL  SAVINGS  B A N KS   : — 

666.  Account of Deposits, &c. in Naval Savings Banks in 1907-8 ; printed 140 

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(Sess. Papers, No.  130.) I 

N A V AL  SAVINGS  B A N KS  A C T,  1 8 66   : — 

by  Act. 

336 

byby  Act,Act, 

141400

667.  Order  in Council approving Memorial of the Admiralty for certain provisions -

by Act. 

111 

N A V AL  W O R KS  A C TS   : — 

668.  Accounts  of  Money issued  and expended  under  the  Acts  in  1907-8,  &c.,  with | 
Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General; printed  17 (Sess. Papers, No. 30.) ) 

byby  Act.Act. 

1177

N A V I G A T I ON  AND  SHIPPING   : — 

669.  Annual Statement for 1908

NAVIGATION,  T R A DE  AND  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  987. 

N A V Y :— 

Appropriation  Account: 

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670. Appropriation Account of the  Sums granted  by Parliament for  Navy Services for)
referredd  ttoo VV 
Papers,, NoNo.. 14.14.)) JJ 

1907-8,,  witwithh ththee  ReporReportt  ooff ththee Comptrolle
1907-8
aa Committe

Committeee ooff ththee wholwholee HouseHouse,, 333333 ;; printed

Comptrollerr anandd AuditoAuditorr  General

General;;  referre
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Battle  Practice: 

671. Result of Battle Practice in the Fleet, 1908 

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NAYY—continued. 

Courts-Martial: 

672. Returns relating thereto for 1908

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Discipline: 

673. Amendments proposed  by the Naval Discipline Bill 

Dockyard Expense Accounts,  1907-8: 

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674. Annual  Accounts  for  the  year  1907-8,  with  Report  of  the  Comptroller  and ( 

Auditor General; printed 49 -

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byby  Act.Act. 

Estimates,  1909-10 : 

675.  Navy  Estimates for  the year 1909-10,  with  explanation  of Differences ;  referred i  King's 

to the Committee  of Supply, 42;  printed 42  -

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(Sess. Papers, No. 53.) J Command. 

Estimates,  Statement explanatory of: 
Statementt  ooff ththee FirsFirstt LorLordd  ooff  ththee Admiralt

676676..  Statemen
1909-100 
1909-1

Admiraltyy explanator

explanatoryy ooff ththee NavNavyy Estimates

Estimates,, ll 
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Statementt ooff  probabl

677677..  Statemen
building,, &c.&c.;; printed
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Exceptions  to King's Regulations : 

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King's 
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6688

678.  List  of Exceptions sanctioned during 1908-9

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Fleets (Great Britain and Foreign Countries); v. Accounts, No. 384. 


Gunnery: 


679679.. ResulResultt ooff testestt ooff  Gunlayer

Gunlayerss witwithh heavheavyy GunGunss  iinn ththee FleetFleet,, 19019088 

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680680..  Statistica

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Hydrographer's  Report: 

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414177

681.  Report  by the Hydrographer of the Admiralty for 1908

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Naval and Marine Pay and  Pensions  Act,  1865 ;  v. Accounts, Nos. 655—663. 

Naval Expenditure  (Principal Naval Powers) ;  v. Accounts, No. 664. 

Naval Prize Money ;  v. Accounts, No. 665. 

Naval Savings  Banks;  v. Accounts, Nos. 666, 667. 

Naval  Works Acts ;  v. Accounts,  No. 668. 

Public Accounts  (Navy  Votes) ;  v. Accounts, No. 796. 

Superannuation  Act,  1887 (Army  and Navy  Officers);  v. Accounts, No. 963. 

Victualling  Yard Manufacturing Accounts,  1 9 0 7 -8  : 

682.  Annual  Accounts  for  the  year  1907-8,  with  Report  of  the  Comptroller and) 

Auditor General thereon ; printed 49 

(Sess. Papers, No. 62.) J 

by  Act. 

49

NETHERLANDS  (Treaty  Series);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1 0 9 1. 

N EW  ZEALAND  COMPANY   (Public Records) ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  8 1 0. 

N I G E R I A :— 

683.  Further Correspondence relating to Railway Construction 

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40 

Colonial Reports;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  159, 186. 

N O R TH  S EA  FISHERIES  INVESTIGATION  C O M M I T T E E :— 

684.  Second Report (Southern Area), 1904-5.  Part II. 

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«  NORTHUMBERLAND  (Polling Districts);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  7 4 1. 

N O R W AY   (Treaty  Series) ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1 1 1 8. 

N Y A S A L A ND  PROTECTORATE   (Colonial Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  181, 187. 

OFFENCES  (Ireland) :— 

686.  Return relative thereto ; printed  57 -

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O LD  A GE  PENSIONS  A C T,  1 9 0 8 :— 

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Presented. 

687.  Financial Instructions under the Act 

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691.  Report of the Committee, with Minutes  of Evidence, &c. 

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692.  Report hy the House Governor  and Medical  Superintendent  for the  year ending)  


31st March 1909 

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PACIFIC  C A B LE  A C T,  1 9 01   : — 

693.  Accounts under the Act to 31st March 1909; printed 364 

(Sess. Papers, No. 250.)  


PARKS  REGULATION   ACT,  1872:—  


694.  Rules for the Tower Gardens 

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PARLIAMENTARY  P A P E R S ?— 

696.  General Alphabetical Index, 1852 to 1899 ;  printed 463 

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by  Act. 

by  Address, 

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697.  List  of  Bills, Reports, Estimates,  and Accounts  and Papers printed  by  Order  of i 

Laid  upon 
the House, and  of  Papers presented  by Command, Session 1909, with  a General ( the  Table by 
Alphabetical Index thereto ;  28th Parliament,  Fourth  Session,  9th Edward VII., J Mr. Speaker. 
16th February 1909 to 3rd December 1909 ;  printed 547  (Sess. Papers, No. 340.) J 

PARLIAMENTARY  RETURNS   : — 

698.  Treasury Minute relating to Sea and Coast Fishery Fund Loans in Ireland  -

by  Act. 

P A R T I AL  EXEMPTION  FROM  SCHOOL  A T T E N D A N CE   (Interdepartmental  Committee):— 

699.  Report of the Committee.  Vol.  I. 
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700.  Ditto  -

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PASSENGERS  TO  AND  FROM  PLACES  OUT   OF  EUROPE   : — 
701.  Return relating thereto for each month  of 1909 

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PATENTS,  DESIGNS,  AND  T R A DE  M A R KS   : — 

(  King's
( Command. 

King's 

702.  Twenty-sixth  Report of the Comptroller General  of  Patents, Designs, and  Trade > 

Marks, for 1908; printed 106

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(Sess. Papers, No. 98.) 1  by  Act. 

PAUPERISM  (England  and Wales)  :— 

703.  Return relative thereto, 1909 (Monthly Statements) ; printed  20 

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704.  Ditto  -

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P E N AL  SERVITUDE  ACTS  (  Conditional Licence)  :— 

705.  Licence granted under the Acts to a Convict, with Conditions 
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706.  Ditto 
ditto 
707.  Ditto 
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708.  Ditto 
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709.  Ditto 
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710.  Ditto 
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ACCOUNTS,  No.  5 2. 

PENSIONS  (Civil  List)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  142. 

PENSIONS  (Royal  Irish  Constabulary)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  8 6 3. 

PERMANENT  CHARGES  COMMUTATION   : — 

711.  Return of Charges redeemed from 1907 to 1909; printed 368 (Sess. Papers, No. 253.)  by  Act. 

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712.  Correspondence respecting the Affairs  of Persia

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713.  Further Correspondence respecting the Affairs  of Persia 

Treaty Series;  v. Accounts, No. 1119. 

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P H I L I P P I NE  ISLANDS   (New  Customs  Tariff)  :— 

715.  Copy of Act of Congress relating thereto 

P L Y M O U TH  (Inquiry into Charities);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  4 5 2. 

POISONS  AND  P H A R M A CY  A C T,  1 9 0 8 :— 

716. Order  in Council making Regulations under Section 2 of the Act  -
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720.  Report of the Commissioner for the year 1908 

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Metropolitan  Police;  ». Accounts, No. 608. 
Police Act,  1890 : 

721.  Correspondence relative to the refusal  of the  Certificate  of the Secretary of  State ]

under the Act to the River Tyne Police Force for the year ended 29th September I 
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722.  Fifty-first Annual Report of the Inspector of Constabulary for Scotland, for 1908  ­

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723.  Report of the Committee thereon, with Appendices 

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740.  Ditto 
-  ditto 
741.  Northumberland, County of  - 

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.-, .  . 

V O L.  1 6 4. 

Sess.  1909. 

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Command. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act, 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

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A C C O U N T  S  A N  D  PAPEBS-CFFIRFWWRF. 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

POLLING  D I S T R I C T S —  c o n t i n u e d. 

742. Southampton, County of 
743.  Suffolk, County of	 

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747.  Yorkshire, West Riding of 

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by  Aet. 

by  Aet. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Aet. 

by  Act, 

186 
546 
207 

460 

285 
140 

POOR  L AW  MEDICAL  OFFICERS   (Scotland) :— 
748.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 530 

-

-

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 317.) 

336 

530 

POOR  L A WS  AND  R E L I EF   OF  DISTRESS  (Royal Commission):— 

750.  Appendix to Report of the Commission, Vol. XIV. 

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751. Ditto 
752. Ditto 

753.  Ditto 

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ditto 

ditto 

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Vol. XXII.	 

754.  Report of the Commission with regard to Ireland

  -

755. Appendix  to Report of the Commission, Vol. XX .

  -

756.  Ditto 

757.  Ditto 

758. Ditto	 

759759..  DittDittoo 

760.  Ditto 

761.  Ditto 
762.  Ditto 

763. Ditto 

764.  Ditto 

765. Ditto 

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Vol. IIIA. 
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766. Report of the Commissioners with regard to Scotland

-

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767.  Appendix to Report of the Commission, Vols. XXVII. and XXXV. 

POOR  R E L I EF   (England and Wales')  :— 

768.  Statement of the  amount expended for In-maintenance and Outdoor Relief  during j

the half-years ended Lady Day and Michaelmas 1909 ;  printed 463 

-

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 287.))

PORT  OF  LONDON  A C T,  1 9 0 8 :— 

769. Regulations by the Board of Trade under the Act  -

-

-

-

-	

PORTUGAL  (Treaty Series);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos. 1117,1121,1123. 

-

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-	

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King's
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King's
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I  King's
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(  King's 
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(  Kmg's
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122

131

150

205 

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289

294

346 

404 

422 

460

486

529

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463 

(  King's 
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76

POST  O F F I CE   : — 

770.  Fifty-fifth Report of the Postmaster General
Foreign and Colonial Parcel  Post  : 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-	

|  King's 
(  Command,

370

771.  Foreign and Colonial Parcel Post Amendment (No. 27) Warrant, 1908  -
772.  Ditto 
773.  Ditto 

(No. 29) Warrant, 1909  -
(No. 30) Warrant, 1909  -	

- ditto 
- ditto 

-
-

-
-

-
-

-
-

-
-

-
-

-

Foreign and Colonial Post: 

774. Foreign and Colonial Post (Cash  on Delivery) Amendment (No. 5) Warrant,  1908 
- Amendment (No. 6) Warrant, 1908 
775. Ditto 
- Amendment (No. 7) Warrant, 1909 
776. Ditto 
- Amendment (No. 8) Warrant, 1909 
777. Ditto 

- ditto  -
- ditto  -
- ditto  -

- ditto  -
- ditto  -
- ditto  -

-
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by  Act. 

by  Aet. 

by  Aet. 

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5 8  5 

ACCOUNTS  AND  PAPERS—continued. 

POST	  O F F I CE  SAVINGS  B A NK   : — 

778.  Accounts of all Deposits received and paid, &c. in 1908 ;  printed 265 

-

- 

-1 

(Sess. Papers, No. 209.)) 	

POST	  O F F I CE  TELEGRAPHS   : — 

779.  Agreement between the  Postmaster General  and the Marconi Companies;

  printed 
id |

Ordered. 

Presented. 

by  Act. 

2 65 

5 46 

5 47 

547	 

-

POST	  OFFICE  TELEGRAPHS   (including  Telephones)  :— 

780.  Account  showing  the  gross  amount  received  and  expended  on  account	  of  the) 
Telegraph Service during the year ending 31st March 1909 ; printed 544 

-

- V by  Act. 

P O U L T RY  BREEDING   (Scotland) (Departmental  Committee'):— 

(Sess. Papers, No. 321.)  J 

781.  Report of the Committee, with Minutes of Evidence and Index 

|  Xing')

< Command 
(Recess). 
1 

5 44 

1 08 


PREVENTION   OF  CRIMES  A C T,  1908   : — 

782.  Act  of  Adjournal  relative  thereto

-

-

PRICES  OF  EXPORTED  COAL   : — 

783.  Return relative thereto; printed  76  -

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

by  Act. 

2 83 

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 78.) 

6 2 

7 6 

PRISONS   : — 

England and  Wales : 

784.  Report of the Commissioners, Parts I. and II., for the year ended 31st March  1909  l  Mng't 
785.  Draft Rules for the constitution  of the Visiting Committee of  Newcastle-upon-Tyne > 
-  (Sess. Papers, No. 72.) I 
786.  Draft Rules with regard  to Prisoners  between sixteen and twenty-one ; printed  76 i 
(Sess. Papers, No.- 80.) J 	

Prison; printed 68-

by  Act.

by  Act. 

-

-

-

-

-

-

| Command. 

Ireland: 

787.  Thirty-first Report of the General Prisons Board, 1908-9, with Appendix 

Scotland: 

788.  Thirty-first Report of the Commissioners, 1908

-

-

_ 

. 

_ 

_ 

_ 

(  Sing's
j Command. 

(  Swig's 
| Command. 

4 20 

6 8 

7 6 

3 41 

9 8 

P R I V A TE  B I L LS  AND  P R I V A TE  BUSINESS   : — 

789.  Return relative thereto for Session 1909 ; printed 523

-

-

-

-

-

-

5 14 

5 23 

P R I V A TE  LEGISLATION  PROCEDURE   (Scotland)  A C T,  1 8 9 9 :— 

790.  Report by the Chairman of Committees  of the House of Lords and tbe Chairman  of i 
- ) 

Ways and Means  in the House of Commons under the Act  -
-

791.  Ditto  -
792.  Return relative thereto for Session 1909; printed 527 
793.  Amending General Orders for Proceedings under the Act;  printed 527 -

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 308.) 

-  ditto  -

-  ditto 

-

-

-

-

-

-

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

5 14 

- i  by  Act. 

2 8 

2 57 

5 27 

5 27 

(Sess. Papers, No. 309.) )

PRIZE  M O N EY   (Naval);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  6 6 5. 
PROSECUTION  OF  OFFENCES  ACTS,  1879  TO  1908:— 

794.  Return relative thereto for 1908 ;  printed 215 

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 177.) 

P U B L IC  ACCOUNTS   (Army  Votes):— 

795.  Treasury  Minute  authorising  the temporary  application  of  Surpluses  on  certain) 
Army Votes for 1 9 0 8 -9  to defray Excesses  on other  Army  Votes  of  the same  I 
(Sess. Papers, No.  1 0 4 . )] 
-
year;  printed  1 14

- 

-

-

-

-

j by  Address, 
1 

2 11 

2 1  5 

pursuant  to 
Resolution,
i  March  1879. 

1 14 

P U B L IC  ACCOUNTS  (  Navy  Votes):— 

796.  Treasury  Minute  authorising  the temporary  application  of  Surpluses  on certain) 

Navy  Votes for  1 9 0 8 -9  to meet  Excesses  on  other  Navy  Votes  of  the same > 
year; printed 

(Sess. Papers, No. 84.) ] 

pursuant  to 
Resolution,
4 March  1879. 

8 4 

PUBLIC  B I L LS   : — 

797.  Return of number  of Public Bills in Session 1909 ;  printed 523 

5 1  3 

5 2  3 

P U B L IC  H E A L TH  AND  SOCIAL  C O N D I T I O N S :— 

798.  Statistical Memoranda and Charts thereon 

-

PUBLI C  H E A L T  H  (Regulations as to Food)  ACT ,  1907  :— 

_ 

_ 

_ 

. 

1  King's
j Command. 

799.  Order made  by the Local Government Board under the Act 
800. Public Health (Foreign Meat) Amending Regulations (Scotland), 1909 ­

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801.  Public  Health  (Foreign  Meat)  (Ireland)  Amending  Regulations,  1909 

V O L . 1 6 4  . 

Sess.  1 9 0 9  .  

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by  Act. 

186 

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ACCOUNTS  AND  PAPERS—continued. 

PUBLIC  INCOME  AND  EXPENDITURE   : — 

802.  Account of  the gross Public Income and Expenditure in the year ended 31st March j

1909, with the Balances  in the Exchequer, ®c.;  printed 125 -

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(Sess. Papers, No. 117.) J 


P U B L IC  OFFICES   (Acquisition  of  Site)  ACT,  1895,  &c.  :—  


803.  Account showing the Moneys issued, borrowed,  and expended  under the Acts to) 

the  31st March  1908,  with  Report  of  the  Comptroller  and Auditor  General; > 
(Sess. Papers, No. 33.) J 
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8 

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P U B L IC  OFFICES  S I TE   (Dublin)  A C T,  1 9 03   : — 

804.  Accounts of Money issued, expended, and borrowed under the  Act  for the period) 

ended 31st  March  1908, with Report of  the Comptroller and Auditor General; V 
printed 1 8-

(Sess. Papers,  No.  34.)) 

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-

-

-

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-

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-

PUBLIC  PETITIONS   : — 

805.  Return of number  of Public Petitions in Session 1909 ;  printed 523 

P U B L IC  RECORDS   : — 

806-7.  Seventieth Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper

-

-

-

\ 

-

-

-

Ireland: 

808.  Forty-first Report of the Deputy Keeper, 1908 

-

-

Regulations  : 

809.  Rules and Regulations respecting the use  of the Records 

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-

-

-

Schedules  of  Documents  not  considered of  sufficient public value  to  justify  their 

preservation  : 

810.  Colonial Office (New Zealand Company) 
811.  Colonial Office
812.  Clerk of the Peace of the County Palatine of Lancaster

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-

813.  County Palatine of Chester and Principality  of Wales
814.  Customs and Excise 
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8 1 5.  D i t to

P U B L IC  REVENUE   (Interception) :— 

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-

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816.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 482 

(Sess. Papers, No. 292.) 

P U B L IC  TRUSTEE   : — 

817.  First Annual Report by the Public Trustee

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-

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PUBLIC  W O R KS   (Ireland)  :— 

818.  Treasury Minute sanctioning the Lease of a plot  of Land  at Kingstown  -
819.  Seventy-seventh Annual Report of the Commissioners, with Appendices, for the year )
- J 

ending 31st March 1909 

-

-

-

PUBLIC  W O R KS  L O AN  BILL   : — 

820.  Statement relative thereto ;  printed 268  -

-

-

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 218.) 

PUBLIC  W O R KS  L O AN  BOARD   : — 

821.  Thirty-fourth Annual Report of the Board, 1908-9, with Appendices j printed 251  - i 

(Sess. Papers, No. 204.) I 

Q U E EN  A N N E 'S  B O U N T Y :— 

822.  Annual Report and Accounts of the Governors for 1908 

QUEEN' S  C O L L E G E S :  — 

Belfast: 

823.  Report of the President for the year 1908-9 

Cork: 

824.  Report of the President for the Session 1908-9 

Galway : 

825.  Report of the President for the Session 1908-9 

Presented. 

125 

18 

18 

523 

117 

425 

32 

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8 

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96 
364 
380 

482 

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(ACCOUNTS  AND  PAPERS—continued. 

\  R A I L W A  Y  A C C I D E N T  S   : — 

826.  Returns of  Accidents and Casualties,  as reported  to the Board  of Trade  by Railway 

Companies, during the three months ending 30th September 1908 

827.  Ditto  ­

­   ditto  ­

-  year ending 31st December  1908 

828.  Ditto  ­

829.  Ditto  ­
830.  Ditto  ­

­   ditto  ­

­   ditto  ­
­   ditto  ­  

- 

- 

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three months  ending 31st December  1908  ­

ditto 
ditto 

-  31 st March  1909 
-  30th June  1909 

General  Report: 

831.  General Report  of the  Board  of  Trade upon the Accidents which have occurred  on 

the Railways of the United Kingdom in 1908 

R A I L W A  Y  ACCOUNT S  AN D  STATISTICA L  RETURN S  (Departmental  Committee)-.— 
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832.  Report of Departmental Committee thereon  ­

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_ 

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R A I L W A  Y  AN D  C A N A  L  T R A F F I  C  A C T  ,  1 8 8 8 :  — 

833.  Rules made  by the Railway and Canal Commissioners;  printed  16 ­

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(Sess, Papers, No. 26.) J 

834.  Report relative to the Weston, Clevedon, and Portishead Light Railwavs Company; i 
­   (Sess. Pape'rs, No. 112.) j 
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printed  120  ­

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-

R A I L W A  Y  AND  CA.NA L  T R A F F I  C  ACTS ,  1854  TO  1894;— 
.  835.  Twentieth Annual  Report of  the Railway and Canal Commission, with Appendix  ­

R A I L W A  Y  A G R E E M E N T  S   : — 

: 836.  Heads  of Agreements between various Railway Companies 

R A I L W A  Y  COMPANIES '  POWER S  A C T  ,  1 8 6  4   : — 
837.  Draft Certificate under the Act 
838. Report on  an Application made under the Act;  printed 251  ­

j
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  R A I L W A  Y  COMPANIE S  (Charitable and other Contributions, 1908) :— 
;
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839. Return relative thereto ; printed 398 

i 

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(Sess. Papers, No. 203.) I 

­ i 

(Sess. Papers, No. 263.) 

j  R A I L W A  Y  C O N C I L I A T I O  N  B O A R D S :  — 

i 

840. Report  to the Board of  Trade thereon  ­

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  R A I L W A  Y  C O N F E R E N C  E   : — 
I

i

841.  Report  bf the Board  of Trade Railway Conference 

|  R A I L W A  Y  EMPLOYMEN T  (Safety  Appliances)  :— 
i 

842. Analysis  of  Accidents by the Committee thereon

R A I L W A Y  ,  &C.  B I L L  S  : — 

= 
843.  Report  by  the Board  of  Trade upon all  Railway, Canal,  Tramway,  Harbour and )

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• 

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Tidal Waters, Electricity, Gas, and Water Bills, and Provisional Orders,  of Session  > 

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108 

166 

388 

488 

34 7 

218 

16 

120 

102 

209 

94 

251 

398 

-  27 

187 

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20 

\  R A I L W A  Y  R E T U R N  S   : — 

844. Return  as  to  the Capital^ Traffic Receipts, and Working  Expenditure  of Railway 

Companies  of the United Kingdom, for  1908 

Preliminary  Statement: 

845.  Return relating to the Railways  of the United Kingdom, for 1908 ­

King's
Command, 

364 

King's
Command. 

137 

:  R A I L W A Y S ;  — 

J 

Accidents ;  v. Accounts, Nos. 826-831. 
Accounts  and Returns;  v. Accounts,  No.  832. 
Agreements; v. Accounts, No. 836. 
Banking and Railway Statistics (Ireland)  ;  v. Accounts,  Nos. 57,  58.  '  " 

Continental Investigations ;  v. Accounts,  No. 201, 

East India;  v. Accounts, Nos. 283, 284. 

, 

Light  Railways Actj, 1896 ;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  520-534. 

> 

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Railway and Canal Traffic Acts;  v. Accounts,  No. 835. 
, 
Railway  Companies (Charitable  and  other  Contributions, 1908) ;

No' 839. 

VOL.  164.  Sess.  1909. 

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A C C O U N TS   A N  D  PAPERS—continued. 

R A I L W A Y S —  c o n t i n u e d. 


Ordered, 

Presented; 

Railway  Employment (Safety  Appliances)  ;  v. Accounts,  No.  842.  


Railway, Sfc.  Bills ;  v. Accounts, No. 843. 


Railway  Returns',  v. Accounts, Nos. 844, 845. 


Railway Servants  (Hours of Labour) ;  v. Accounts, Nos.  850-852.  


Railways  Abandonment:  


Reports  by the Board  of  Trade  respecting the following Bills and  their 

objects, viz.:— 

846.  Southport and Lytham  Tramroad (Abandonment) Bill;  referred  to the Committee 
-

on the Bill, 60;  printed 60 

(Sess. Papers, No. 71.) 

• 

- 

-

[Order  for  printing discharged, 62.] 
847.  North West London Railway Bill;  referred  to the Committee on the Bill, 137 

848.  Edgware and Hampstead Railway Bill;  referred  to the Committee on the Bill, 137 

849.  Pontypridd Water Bill;  referred  to the Committee on the Bill, 145 

R A I L W AY  SERVANTS   (Hours  of  Labour)  :— 

850.  Report  by the Board of  Trade respecting their Proceedings relative thereto, for the ) 
(Sess. Papers, No. 249.) > 

year ending 27th July 1909 ;  printed 364

. 

. 

 . 

851.  Return under the Regulation  of  Railways Act, 1889, of  Railway Servants who,  in 
the  month  of -October  1908,  were  on  duty  for  more  than  twelve  hours at 
a time, &c. -

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852.  Ditto 

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-  ditto 

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RAMSGATE  H A R B O U R :— 

853.  Statement of Receipts and Payments by the Board of  Trade for the year ended 31st) 
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March 1909-

-f 

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-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

to  S.O. 
158ft. 

to  8.0. 
158J. 

to  8.0. 
1B8J. 

jmrsna/Kt
to  S.O. 
158b. 

> Aet, 

Command.

Kin/ft
Command. 

'  Aet. 

REFORMATORY  AND  INDUSTBIAL  SCHOOLS   : — 

Great  Britain  : 

854.  Fifty-second Report, for 1908.  Part  I. (List of Schools, &c.) 

855.  Ditto 

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-

-

- 

Part II. (General Report) 

Ireland: 

King's
Command. 
King's
Command. 

856.  Forty-seventh Report of the Inspector, for 1908 

-

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-

-

-

-

King's
Command. 

R E S E R VE  (Army); 

v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  5 1,  5 3,  5 4. 

RESIDENT  MAGISTRATES  

(Ireland):— 

857.  Return relative thereto; printed 162 

- 

(Sess. Papers, No. 149.) 

99 

R E V E N UE  AND  E X P E N D I T U RE   (England,  Scotland,  and Ireland) 

858.  Return relative thereto -

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859.  Return relative thereto; printed 265 

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-  (Sess. Papers, No. 208.) 

225 

R E V E N UE  AND  EXPENDITURE  FOR  THE  YEARS   1908-9  AND  1909-10:— 

860.  Return relative thereto; printed 122 

(Sess. Papers, No. 115.) 

122 

R E V E N UE  ( Collection of  Taxes) 

:— 

861.  Return relative thereto ;  printed  72 

R O Y A  L  COMMISSIONS   : — 

(Sess. Papers, No.  77.) 

5 8 

Ancient  Monuments  (Scotland)  ;  v.  Accounts,  No.  20. 

Canals and Waterways  ;  v. Accounts,  No. 127. 

Coast Erosion  and Afforestation',  v.  Accounts,  No.  156.  


Historical Manuscripts ;  v. Accounts, Nos. 419-421. 


International Exhibitions of  Brussels,  Rome,  and  Turin ;  ». Accounts, No.  459.  


Land  Transfer  Acts',  v. Accounts,  No.  514.  

Mines; v. Accounts, Nos. 621-623. 


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R O Y AL  COMMISSIONS—continued. 

Ordered.  Presented. 

Poor  Laws  and Relief  of  Distress;  v.  Accounts,  Nos.  749-767.  


Sewage Disposal;  v.  Accounts,  No.  875.  


Shipping Rings;  v.  Accounts,  Nos.  878,  879.  


Tuberculosis (Human  and  Bovine);  v.  Accounts,  No.  1131.  


Whisky and other Potable  Spirits;  v.  Accounts,  Nos.  1171,  1172.  


R O Y AL  IRISH  CONSTABULARY   : — 

862. Return relative thereto; printed 545 

-

-

-

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 325.) 

539 

545 


R O Y AL  IRISH  CONSTABULARY   (Pensions):—  


863. Return relative  to Pensions  to Officers, &c. granted since the Constabulary Estimate ) jKtrig's 

for 1908-9 Was prepared 

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864.  Nineteenth Annual Report of the Astronomer Royal for Scotland  -

R O Y AL  PATRIOTIC  F U ND  CORPORATION   : —  

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865. Fifth Report, for the year 1908 

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R O Y AL  UNIVERSITY   OF  IRELAND   : — 

866.  Twenty-seventh Report, for 1908  -

-

-

-

-

-

-

R U S S IA  (Treaty  Series)  ',  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No. 1120. 


SAINT  ANDREWS  U N I V E R S I T Y;   » .  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  1 1 6 1,  1 1 6 2. 

SAINT  H E L E NA   (Colonial  Reports)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  162. 

S A I NT  L U C IA   : — 

|  King's

( Command. 

107 

f  King's

| Command. 

364 

I  King's
( Command. 

2 22 


867.  Regulations for Prison Government 

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-

-

-

-

-

-

-

ly  Aot. 

5 05 

Colonial  Reports;  v. Accounts,  No.  179. 

S A I NT  V I N C E NT   (Colonial  Reports)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  1 8 3.  


S A LE   OF  G L E BE  L A ND  R U L ES   : —  


868.  Rules under the Glebe Land Act, 1888 -

S A N I T A RY  MEASURES   (East  India); 

».  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  2 8 5.  


SAVINGS  BANKS   : —  


_ 

_ 

ly Aet 

4 11 


Army  (Military  Savings  Banks);  v. Accounts,  No. 44. 


National  Debt  (Military  Savings  Banks);  v.  Accounts,  No.  637.  


National  Debt  (Savings  Banks  and  Friendly  Societies);  v.  Accounts,  No.  638.  


Naval  Savings  Banks;  v. Accounts,  Nos.  666,  667.  


Post  Office  Savings  Banks  ;  v.  Accounts,  No.  778.  


Seamen's Savings Banks;  v.  Accounts,  No.  873.  


Savings  Brmks and Friendly  Societies : 


869.  Account showing Interest accrued, &c. in 1908 ;  printed 265 -

-I 
-
(Sess. Papers, No. 210.) J 

- 

-

by  Aet, 

265 

Trustee  Savings Banks',  v.  Accounts,  Nos.  1128,  1129. 

S A V I N GS  BANKS   (Ireland) :— 

870.  Return relative thereto ; printed 129 

- 

(Sess. Papers, No. 119.) 

53 

129 

S C I L LY  ISLANDS  M A IL  SERVICE   : — 

871. Return relative thereto ;  printed 142 

-

-

-

-  (Sees. Papers, No. 136.) 

1 40 

1 42 


S EA  AND  COAST  FISHERIES  F U ND   (Ireland)  (Non-congested  Districts)  :—  


872.  Annual Account for 1908 

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-

-

-

-

-

-

SEAMEN'S  SAVINGS  BANKS   (Money  Orders  and  Transmission of  Wages) 

:— 

by  Aet. 

6 9 


873.  Account  of  all Deposits received and repaid  by the Board of Trade during the year) 

ended 20th November 1908. and  of Interest thereon, &c.;  printed 545  -

- 

-1  by  Act, 

5 45 

(Sees. Papers, No. 332.) j 

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A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S —   c o n t i n u e d. 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

S E L E CT  COMMITTEES   : — 

874.  Return of number  of Select Committees  inSession 1969;  printed 523 

-

5 13 

523 

SERVIA  (  T r e a ty  Series)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  1105  1 1 1 5. 

•••  A 

S E W A GE  DISPOSAL   ( Royal,  Commission):— 

875.  Sixth Report of the Commissioners  	

SEYCHELLES  (Colonial Reports)  ;  v.  A C C O U N T S,  N o.  1 6 9. 

S H E R I FF  COURTS   (Scotland)  ACT,  1 9 0 7 :— 

(  King's 
|  Command, 

876. Act  of Sederunt anent Procedure in Appeals -

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

by  Aef. 

6

7 

SHIPPING  CASUALTIES  ( 1 9 0 7 - 8)   :— 

8 7 7  .	  Abstracts of Returns  to the Board  of Trade  of Shipping Casualties in 1 9 0 7 -8 

-

SHIPPING,  N A V I G A T I ON  AND  ;   » .  A C C O U N T S,  N O.  669. 

SnirpiNG  ~RiXGs 

(Royal  Commission):—

878.  Report of the  Commission,Vols. 1., II., and HI. 

870.  Ditto 

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ditto 

Vols. IV. and  V. -

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-

-

-

-

-

-

-

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SHOP  HOURS  A C T,  1 9 04   : — 

880.  Orders  made by  Local  Authorities  under  the  Act  for  closing  certain  Shops 
881.  Ditto  -
88$. Ditto 

* 

King's.
11  King's.
•]•] Command
Command 
(Recess'). 
(Recess').
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486 

(  King's 
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186

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SHOP  HOUR S  A C T  ,  1 9 0 4 —  c o n t i n u e d ,. 

912.  Orders made  by Local Authorities under the Acts for closing certain Shops
913.  Ditto  ­
914.  Ditto 

ditto 
ditto 

! 

915.  Ditto  ­

916.  Ditto  ­
917. Ditto  ­
918.  Ditto 

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-

-

-

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Presented. • 

by  Act. 

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by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act, 

by  Act. 

4 6  8 

4 8  6 

5 0  0 

5 2  3 

5 2  7 

5 4  4 

5 46 

5 46 

5 46 

S I AM  (NO.   1,  1 9 0 9)  :  — 

921.  Treaty with Siam	 

S I AM  (Treaty  Series)-,  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1 1 1 0. 

SIERRA  L E O NE   (Colonial  Reports) -, v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  174. 

SIGHT  TESTS   (Mercantile  Marine)-,  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  392. 

SINKING  FUNDS   : — 

-

-

J  King's
1  Command. 

2 1  8

922.  Account showing amount received from the Exchequer in respect  of  Old  and New ]

Sinking Funds  in year ended 31st March 1909; printed 205 

-

-

-• >byby  Act.Act. 

205 

(Sess. Papers, No. 169.) j 

SITTINGS   OF  THE  HOUSE   : — 

923.  Return of number  of Days  on which the House sat  in Session 1909 ; printed 523 

5 14 

523 

S M A LL  D W E L L I N G - H O U S ES   IN  BURGHS  L E T T I NG  AND  R A T I NG   (Scotland)  B I LL   : — 

924.  Return relative thereto ; printed 526 

-	

(Sess. Papers, No. 307.) 

5 26 

526 

SOANE'S	  MUSEUM   : — 

925.  Statement of the Funds of the Museum, 5th January 1909  

-

-

-

-

-

by  Act. 

4 4 

SOMALTLAND  (Colonial Reports) ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No. 182. 

SOUTH  A F R I CA   : — 

926.  Report of Delegates, with Draft South Africa Union Act 

-

927.	  Second  Report  of  Delegates, with  Draft  South  African  Constitution  Bill 

j  King's
( Command. 

j  King's
I  Command. 

4 0 

276 

Colonial  Reports ;  v. Accounts,  No.  188. 

SOUTHAMPTON  (Polling  Districts);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  7 4 2. 

SOUTHERN  NIGERIA   : — 

928.  Report of Inquiry into the Liquor Trade.  Part  I., Report  -

-

-

-

-	

929.  Ditto  -

-

- ditto 

-

-

- Part II., Minutes of Evidence 	

(  King's
| Command. 
(  King's
|  Command. 

487

487

S P A IN  (Treaty  Series);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos. 1094, 1121. 

SPRING  ASSIZES  A C T,  1 8 7 9,  AND  W I N T ER  ASSIZES  A C T,  1 8 7 6 :— 

930.  Two Orders  in Council relating to the ensuing Spring Assizes 

-	

STANDING  COMMITTEES   : — 

931. Return  of number and  names  of all Members appointed to serve thereon  in Session ) 
-

1909;  printed 523 

-J 

. -

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

by  Act, 

60 

515133 	

5 25 233

STATISTICAL  ABSTRACTS   : — 

. 

British Empire : 

932.  Statistical Abstract for the British Empire in each year from 1893 to 1907.  [Fifth  ||  King's
King's
Command 
••JJ  Command
(Recess). 
(Recess).
(( 

5 

East  India ;  v. Accounts, No. 287. 

United Kingdom  : 

933.  Statistical Abstract for the United Kingdom  in each year from 1894 to 1908  -

J  King's 
t  Command.  • 

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STRAITS  SETTLEMENTS   : — 

934. Report on the Federated  Malay States for 1907 

-

-

-

-

-

935. Ditto	  -

-

- ditto 

-

-

for 1908 

-

936.  Report of Proceedings  of the Opium Commission   -
Colonial Reports;  v. Accounts,  No.  182. 

-

-

-

-

Ordered. 

Presented. 

-

-

-

-

((  King's
King's
Command 
<< Command
(( 
(Recess), 
(Recess),
(  King's
| Command. 

(  King's
j  Command, 

4

440 

23 , 

STREET  ACCIDENTS  CAUSED   BT  V E H I C L ES   : — 

937.  Return relative thereto; printed 107 

-

-

-

STREET  ACCIDENTS  CAUSED   BT  V E H I C L ES  (Scotland) :— 

(Sess. Papers, No. 100.) (  by  Address, 
107 

| 

107

938.  Return relative thereto ; printed 136 

-	

(Sess. Papers, No. 128.) 

129 

136 

STRIKES  AND  LOCK-OUTS   : — 

939. Report  of  the  Labour  Department  of  the Board  of  Trade  on the Strikes andi 
-) 

Lock-outs of 1908, &c.	 

-

-

-

-

-

King's 
Command.

191955

SUEZ  C A N AL   (Commercial, NO.  2,  1 9 0 9 ) :—  


King's

jj  King's
940.  Returns of Shipping and Tonnage passing through the Canal, 1906, 1907, and 1908 - || Command.
Command. 

214 

SUFFOLK  (Polling  Districts);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  7 4 3. 

SUGAR  CONVENTION  (Commercial,  No.  1,  1 9 0 9)   : —  


941. Report of British Delegate to International Sugar Convention, 1908 

SUPERANNUATION  B I L  L 

942.  Draft Regulations proposed under the Bill 

-

-

-

-

-

-	

-

1  King's

(  Command. 

69

-

-	

(  King's
| Command. 

294

SUPERANNUATIONS   : — 

Superannuation  Act,  1884: 

Treasury  Minutes  declaring  that  the  following  Persons 

in  the  undermentioned  


Departments were appointed to  the  Offices  set against their names without  the  grant  

of  a  Civil Service  Certificate, through inadvertence  on  the part  of  the  heads of  their  

Departments,  viz.:— 

943.  George William Love, Lad, Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield, War Office -
944.  William Baldock, Lad, Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield, War Office  	

-
-

-

945.  Miss  Mary  Carey,  Telegraphist,  Post  Office 
946.  Charles Hughes Cox, Lad, Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield, War Office  -
-
947. James Goodbury, Labourer, Royal Gun Factory, War Office -
-
948.  George Thomas, Artificer, Royal Small Arms Factory, War Office -
-
949.  George Upshire, Lad, Royal Gun Factory, War Office  -	

-
-

-	

-

-

-

-

950.  Charles Gray, Lad, Royal Laboratory, War Department 

-

-

-

-

Superannuation  Act,  1887 : 


Treasury Minutes granting Retired  Allowances under the Act  to—  

951.  Mr. Alger G. Tomlinson, Telegraphist, Central Telegraph Office  -	
952.  Mr. Peter Buglass, Second Class Officer, Darlington Station, Inland Revenue ­

-
953.  Mr. Henry Wakefield, Overseer at Hull Post Office 
954.  Mr. William Thompson, Overseer at Hull Post Office  -
955.  Mr. Henry Phillips, Telegraphist, Edinburgh Post Office 
956.  Mr. Frederic Herbert Trench, Senior Examiner, Board of Education 

-
-

-

957.  Mr. James Rushton, Sorting Clerk and Telegraphist, Bedford Post Office 
958.  Mr. Joseph James Bartlett, Town Postman, Leeds 
959. Mr. James Smith, Clerk, Engineer-in-Chief's Office, Post Office 

_ 

-

-

-

-	

960.  Mr. John  M'Donough  and  Mr.  Thomas Harwood,  Clerks,  Savings  Bank  Depart-1 
-

ment, Post  Office 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

-

-

-

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961.  Mr.  Edwin  Hampden  Laurie,  First  Class  Clerk,  Supplementary  Establishment,
_ J 
-

Post Office 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

_ 

. 

. 

-

-

-

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Aot. 

by  Act. 

by  Aet. 

by  Aot, 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

2 41 
241 

318 
411 

446 

5 09 

527  ; 
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1 

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36

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ACCOUNTS  AND  PAPERS— continued. 

\  SUPERANNUATIONS— continued. 

Ordered.  Presented. 

Superannuation  Act,  1909 : 

962. Regulations made  by the Treasury under the Act  -

-
Superannuation  Act,  1887 (Army and Navy  Officers): 

-

-

-

-

by  Act. 

452 

• 

963. Return,  for the year ended 31st March 1909, of Army and Navy Officers permitted )
under the Act  to hold  Civil Employment  of  profit  under  Public Departments; > 
(Sess. Papers, No, 222.) j 
printed 277  -

-

-

-

-

-

-

Superannuations : 

Treasury  Minute  declaring  that  the following  Offices are  Offices requiring  particular

qualifications not ordinarily acquired in the Public  Service,  viz.:— 

964.  Inspector and Assistant Inspector of Foods 

-

-

-

-

-

965. Assistant Under Secretary for Scotland -
966.  Comptroller General of Patents 
967.  Headmaster of Royal Naval Colleges  at Dartmouth and Osborne  -
968. Assistant for Common Law  and  Admiralty  Business  in  the  Treasury  Solicitor's i 
-1 
-
-

969.  Director of Labour Exchanges 

Department 

-
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-
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-

SUPPLEMENTARY  ESTIMATES;  V.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos.  147,  148,  151. 

SUPREME  COURT  OP  JUDICATURE   : — 

970.  Accounts  for the year ended 28th February 1909, with Report  of  the Comptroller) 
(Sess. Papers, No. 280.) J 
-

and Auditor General; printed 443 

-

-

-

by  Act. 

277 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act, 

by  Act. 

byby  Act.Act. 

by  Act. 

7 
26 
30 

166 

262622

460 

byby  Act.Act. 

444433

SUPREME  COURT  OF  JUDICATURE  A C T,  1875   : — 

971.  Order  in Council under the Act relating to the Circuits of Judges  -

-

by  Act. 

302 

SUPREME  COURT  OF  JUDICATURE  A CT   (Ireland),  1877   : — 

972.  Order  in Council under the Act giving effect  to Rules of Court 

-

-

by  Act. 

422 

SUPREME  COURT  OF  JUDICATURE  (Ireland)  :— 

973,  Account  of  Receipts  and  Payments  in  the  year  ended  30th  September  1908 ; i 

printed  23 

-

-

-

. 

_ 

_ 

-

_ 

_  (Sess. Papers, No. 40.) ( 

21 

23 

SUPREME  COURT 

(Rules):— 

974.  Rules, dated 3rd May 1909, under the Companies (Consolidation) Act, 1908  -
975r  Ditto 
976. Ditto 
977.  Ditto 

3rd May 1909 
25th August 1909 
21st October 1909 

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by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

159 
159 

411 
500 

SURREY  (Polling  Districts);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  744. 

SWAZILAND  (Colonial  Reports)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  161. 

SWEDEN  (Treaty  Series) ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos. 1113,  1122. 
SWITZERLAND  (Treaty  Series);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  1124. 

TAXATION  OF  LAND,  &C.   : — 

978.  Papers  bearing  on  Land  Taxes  and Income  Tax,  &c. in  Foreign  Countries 

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979.  Second  Series of  Memoranda and Extracts  on  Land  Taxation  and  Valuation  ­

TAXATION  OF  L A ND  VALUES   (Miscellaneous, No.  6, 1909);— 

980. Despatches from Consular Officers thereon 

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J  Command. 

J  Commamd. 

277 

417 

I  King's 
J  Command. 

191911

:  TAXES  AND  IMPOSTS   : — 

981.  Return relative thereto;  printed 528 

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 313.) 

TEACHERS'  REGISTRATION  FUND  DEPOSIT  ACCOUNT   : — 

173 

528 

by  Act. 

460 

;  TELEGRAPH  AND  TELEPHONE  ACCOUNTS   : — 

983.  Treasury Minute relating thereto  -

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. 

TELEGRAPH  AND  TELEPHONE  ACCOUNTS   (Departmental  Committee)  :— 

984. Report of Committee thereon 

VOL.  ] 64. 

Sess.  1909. 

by  Act. 

435 

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1  Command. 

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A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S —   c o n t i n u e d. 

TEMPORARY  L A WS   : — 

985.  Register  of  Temporary  Laws  for  the  Fourth  Session  of  the  Twenty-eighth 

Parliament of the United Kingdom;-printed195  -

-

(pursuant  to  

Report  of

I Select Com-
(Sess. Papers, No. 167.)  )  mittee on 
Expiring 
{ Laws,  1866.

Ordered.  Presented, 

TERRITORIAL  FORCE  (Army); 

v.  ACCOUNTS,  N o.  5 5. 

T H A M ES  C O N S E R V A N C Y :— 

986986..  GeneraGenerall ReporReportt ooff ththee Conservator
Conservatorss  foforr ththee  yeayearr 19081908,, witwithh Statemen
foforr ththee samsamee yearyear;; printed
printed 111177 

Statementt ooff Account
(Sess.. Papers
(Sess

Accountss ii 
Papers,, NoNo.. 109.109.)) 11 by  Act. 

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T I B ET   ( Treaty  Series);   » .  ACCOUNTS,  No. 1089. 

T R A DE  AND  N A V I G A T I ON   : — 

987. Accounts relative thereto for 1909 ;  printed  20 

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-

(Sess. Papers, No. 35.) 

1 91 9 55 

117 

T R A DE  BOARDS  A C T,  1 9 0 9 :— 

988. Regulations made under the Aet  -

T R A DE  (East  India)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos. 2 8 9,  2 9 0. 

T R A DE   (Foreign  Countries and British  Possessions)  :—  

989.  Annual Statement for 1908.  Vol.  I.  -

990. Ditto 

- ditto 

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991.  Supplement to Vols. I. and II. 

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T R A DE  REPORTS   : — 

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Diplomatic  andand  Consular
Diplomatic
Reports,, NosNos.. 41741766  ttoo 41841811 

Reports  (Annual
Consular Reports
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992992.. Reports

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996.  Ditto  - No. 4185 -

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1001. Report,  No. 4198 -

1002.  Ditto  - No. 4200 -

1003. Ditto  - No. 4199 -

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. 

1007. Reports, Nos. 4203 to 4205, and 4212 

1008. Ditto  - Nos. 4202 and 4214 -

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. 

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1009. Ditto  - Nos. 4215 to 4217, and 4220 

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1013.  Ditto  - No. 4226 

10141014.. Reports

Reports,, NosNos.. 42342300 anandd 42342311 --

1015.  Report,  No. 4233-

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5 9  5  . 

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T R A D  E  R E P O R T S —  c o n t i n u e d  . 

Diplomatic  and Consular  Reports (Annual  Series)—continued. 

10161016..  Reports

Reports,, NosNos.. 4224,4229

4224,4229,, anandd 42342344 

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1017.  Ditto  ­ Nos. 4207, 4228, 4232, 4235,  4238, and 4239 

1018.  Ditto  ­ Nos. 4237, 4240 to 4244, and 4246 

1019. Ditto  ­ Nos. 4245, 4247, and 4248 

1020.  Ditto  ­ Nos. 4249 and 4250 

1021.  Report,  No. 4213­

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-

-

-

-

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1022.  Reports, Nos. 4251 to 4256, and 4259 

1023. Ditto  ­ Nos. 4236,4261, and 4362 

1024. Ditto  ­ Nos. 4260,4263, and 4264 

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. 

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1025.  Ditto  ­ Nos. 4266 and 4270 ­

1026.  Ditto  ­ Nos. 4258, 4265, 4267, 4269, and 4271 

1027. Ditto  ­ Nos. 4268 and 4273 to 4277 

1028.  Ditto  ­ Nos. 4272 and 4278 ­

1029. Report,  No. 4257

1030.  Ditto 

­ No. 4279­

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. 

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. 

. 

. 

. 

1031.  Reports, Nos. 4280, 4281, 4283, and 4284 

1032.  Ditto  ­ Nos. 4282 and 4285 to 4287 
1033.  Ditto  ­ Nos. 4288 and 4289 ­

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1035.  Reports, Nos. 4292 and 4293  ­

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1036,  Report,  No. 4295 ­

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1037.  Reports, Nos. 4294, 4296 to 4300, and 4302 

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1039.  Reports, Nos. 4301, 4303 to 4305, 4308, and 4309  ­

1041. Ditto  ­ NoS. 4311, 4312, and 4315 

1043. Ditto  ­ Nos. 4313, 4317, and 4319 

1044.  Report,  No. 4318 ­

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-

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-

-

-

-

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-

_ 

. 

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1045.  Reports, Nos. 4306 and 4320 ­

1046.  Ditto  ­ Nos. 4321 and 4322

1047.  Ditto  ­ Nos. 4323 and 4324 

1048.  Report,  No. 4325 ­

18491849.. DittDittoo  -­ NoNo.. 43264326-­

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1054.  Ditto

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1055. Ditto

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Sess.  1909. 

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j  King's
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|  King's
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|  Command. 

j  King's
j Command. 

1  King's
) Command. 
j  King's
| Command. 
J  King's
(  Command. 

|  King's
(  Command. 

F  King's
(  Command. 
F  King's
|  Command. 
J  King's 
(  Command. 

(  King's
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J  King's
|  Command. 
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(  King's
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.. 

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I Command. 
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(  Command. 
|  King's
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J  King's 
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King's

( 
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(  King's
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206 

206 

211 

214 

215 

218 

222 

224 

232 

234 

238 

242 

245 

266 

269 

276 

283 

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294 

310 

312 

318 

322 

324 

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A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S —   c o n t i n u e d. 

T R A DE  REPORTS— continued. 

Presented,: 

1056. Reports, Nos. 4345  to 4347 

Diplomatic  and  Consular Reports  (Annual  Series)—continued. 
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1057. Ditto  - Nos. 4349 and 4350 

1058.  Report,  No. 4353 

1.059. Reports, Nos. 4351 and 4352

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. 

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1060. Ditto  - Nos. 4354 to 4357 

1061. Ditto  - Nos. 4359 and 4360 

1062.  Report,  No. 4361 

1063. Ditto  - No. 4358 ­

1064. Reports, Nos. 4362 to 4367  ­

-

1065.  Report,  No. 4368 

1066. Reports, Nos. 4369 to 4371 

1067.  Ditto  - Nos. 4372 to 4374

1068.  Report,  No. 4375 - o 

1069. Ditto  - No. 4376 -

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1070.  Reports, Nos. 4377  to 4381  ­

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1072. Ditto  ­ No. 4384 ­

1073.  Reports, Nos. 4382 and 4385 ­

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1074. Ditto  ­ Nos. 4386 and 4387 ­

Diplomatic and Consular Reports ( Miscellaneous  Series): 

1075. Reports, Nos. 672 to 674 

1076.  Report,  No. 675 

1077. Ditto  - No. 676 

1078-80.  Ditto  - No. 677 

Index  : 

1081.  Index to Reports  of His  Majesty's Diplomatic and  Consular Representatives abroad |

on Trade and Subjects of general interest (with Appendix), 1907 
ditto 

ditto 

ditto 

1908 

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-

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1082. Ditto 

T R A I N I NG  OP  TEACHERS   IN  ENGLAND  AND  W A L ES   (including Monmouthshire)  :— 

1083. Return relative thereto;  printed 139 

-

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(SeBS. Papers, No. 134.) 

T R A M W AY  ORDERS   : — 

1084.  Report of Proceedings under the Tramways Act, 1870, during the Session of 1909  ­

T R A M W A YS  AND  LIGHT  R A I L W A YS   (Street  and Road)  :— 

1085. Return  of  Street  and  Road  Tramways  and  Light  Railways  authorised  by i 

Parliament, with Accounts, &c.; printed 545 

-

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 324.)J 

T R A N S V A A L :— 

1086.  Further Correspondence as to Legislation affecting Asiatics 

1087.  Convention between the Transvaal and Mozambique 

T R E A S U RY  CHEST   : — 
1088. Accoun

Accountt  ifor  1907-8,  with  Report  of  the  Comptroller  and  Auditor  General;)
(Sess. Papers, No. 11.)  ' 
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435 

443 

449 

452 

460 

465 

468 

471 

482 

486 

488 

498 

513 

530 

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547 
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ACCOUNTS  AND  PAPERS—continued. 

T R E A TY  SERIES   : — 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

No.  3 5,  1 9 08 
Regulationss respectin

10891089..  Regulation

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No.  3 7,  1 9 0 8: 

1091. Agreement with the Netherlands respecting Insured Letters and Boxes ­

No.   1 ,  1 9 09  :  


1 0 9 2.  P r o t o c ol  r e s p e c t i ng  T u r k i sh  C u s t o ms  D u t i es 

No. 2,  1 9 09  :  


1093. Exchange of Notes with Italy renewing Arbitration Agreement of 1904 

No.  3 ,  1 9 0 9: 

1094. Exchange of Notes with Spain renewing Arbitration Agreement of 1904 

No. 4,  1 9 09  : 

1095. Accession  of  United  Kingdom  to  International  Convention  respecting  White) 

No.  5 ,  1 9 0 9: 

1096.  Arbitration Agreement with Colombia  -

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1097.  International Agreement respecting International Office  of Public  Health 

No.   7 ,  1 9 0 .9  : 

1098.  Additional Agreement modifying Convention of Commerce with Bulgaria 

No.   8 ,  1 9 09 

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1099. International Radiotelegraphic Convention 

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-

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-

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No.   9 ,  1 9 09 

: 

1100. Convention with Mexico, supplementary to Parcel Post Convention of 1897 

No.  1 0,  1 9 0 9: 

1 1 0 1.   A g r e e m e n  t  with Germany referring Boundary at Walfisch Bay to Arbitration 

No.  1 1,  1 9 0 9: 

1102.  Accession of Mexico  to Declaration respecting Maritime Law 

No.  1 2,  1 9 09  : 

1103.  Abrogation  of Convention with Hayti respecting Nationality  ­

No. 1 3,  1 9 09  : 

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1105. Accession  of British Colonies to Treaty of Commerce with Servia  ­

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1106. Accession of Austria and Hungary to Industrial Property Convention

No.  1 6,  1 9 09  : 

1107. Accession of Cuba to the Geneva Convention 

No.  1 7,  1 9 0 9: 

1108. Exchange of Notes with Germany respecting Boundaries in Africa ­

No. 

1 8,  1 9 0 9 :, 

1109.  Accession of British Colonies to Commercial Convention with Egypt

No.  1 9,  1 9 09  : 
1110.  Treaty with Siam

No.  2 0,  1 9 09  : 

1111.  Exchange of Notes with Germany renewing Arbitration Agreement 

No.  21,  1909: 

1112.  Agreement with the United States relating to Fisheries  on North Atlantic Coast

VOL .  164 . 

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T R E A T  Y  S E R I E S —  c o n t i n u e d. 

No.  2 2,  1 9 09  : 

1113. Accession  of  Mexico  and Sweden  to International  Agreement  respecting  Inter-i 
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No.  23, 1909 : 

1114.  Denunciation of Agreement  of No

vember 1907 with United States  

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1115. Accession of Servia  to the Industr

ial Property Convention 

No.  25, 1909 : 

1116. Exchange of Notes with Germany for Protection  of Trade Marks  in Corea 

No. 26, 1909 : 

1117. Additional Articles to Agreement with Portugal for Exchange of Money Orders  ­

No.  27, 1909 : 

1118.  Convention with Norway renewing Arbitration Convention  ­

1119. Accession  of Persia to International Agreement  respecting  International  Office of 

No.  28, 1909: 

Public Health 

No. 29, 1909: 


1120.  Exchange of Notes with Russia for Protection of Trade Marks in Morocco 

1121.  Exchange  of  Notes with Belgium,  Italy,  Portugal,  and Spain  for Protection of 
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No. 30, 1909 : 

Patents  in Morocco 
No. 31,1909: 

1122.  Convention with Sweden renewing Arbitration Convention 

No.  32,  1909 : 

1123. Exchange of Notes with Portugal renewing Arbitration Agreement

No.  33, 1909 : 

1124. Exchange of Notes with Switzerland renewing Arbitration Agreement

Ordered. 

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535 

TRINIDA D  AN D  T O B A G O :  — 

1125.  Rules for Government of Prisons therein

Colonial Reports;  v.  Accounts,  No.  182. 

TROPICA L  DISEASE S  RESEARC H  FUN D   : — 

1126. Report by the Advisory Committee for 1908 ­

T R U C  K  A C T  S  (Departmental  Committee):— 

1127. Report of the Committee.  Vol. IV. 

TRUSTE E  SAVING S  BANK S  : — 

• 

• , 

-

- 

-

by  Act. 

142 

(  King's 
j Command. 

(  King's
| Command. 

40 

57 

8

1128.  Seventeenth Annual  Report  of  the  Proceedings  of  the  Inspection  Committee) 

of Trustee Savings Banks, for the year ended 20th November 1908;  printed 8 

- > by  Act. 

(Sess. Papers, No. 21.)) 
1129. Return showing particulars of  each Savings Bank  in England and Wales, Scotland, ] 
Ireland, and the Channel Islands,  and particulars  of Deposits,  &c., for the  year I 
ended 20th November 1908 ;  printed 353 

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 246.)) 

-

-

336 

353 

TUBERCULOSIS   : — 

1130.  Copy of Tuberculosis Order  of 1909 ;  printed 205  -

-  (Sess. Papers, No. 168.) 

195 

205 

TUBERCULOSIS  (Human and Bovine)  ( Royal  Commission)  :— 

1131.  Third Interim Report of the Commission.  Report and Appendix  ­

TUBERCULOSIS  (International  Congress  of 1908)  :— 

1132. Report of the Delegates to the Congress at Washington 

T U R K EY  (NO.   1,  1 9 0 9 ) :— 

1133.  Correspondence respecting Constitutional Movement 

-

-

-

T U R K EY  ( Treaty Series);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1 0 9 2. 

TURKS  AND  CAICOS  ISLANDS   (Colonial Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  1 7 5. 

f  King's

Command 
(Recem). 

( 

j  King's
j  Command. 

5 

6 

j  King's
| Command. 

65 

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I N D EX  to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME. 

5 9   9  . 

A C C O U N TS  A ND  P A P E R S —   c o n t i n u e d. 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

UGANDA  (Colonial  Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  Nos. 165, 184, 189. 

U L T I M US  H.S:RES   (Scotland)  (Account  and List  of Estates) :-— 

1134-5.  Return relative thereto ;  printed 148  -

(Sess. Papers, No. 139.) 

1 45 

1 48 

U N E M P L O Y ED  WORKMEN  A C T,  1 9 0 5 :— 

1136. Report  by the Local Government  Board for  Scotland  as  to  Distress Committees,  (  King's
^ Command 
(_  (Recess).

-

-

-

1907-8 
1137. Ditto  -

-
-

. 
-
ditto -

ditto  -

for the year ending (  King's

15th May 1909)  Command. 

1138. Return relative thereto; printed 428 

-

-

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 276.) 

1139.  Order made  by the Local Government Board for Scotland under the Act 

3 31 

by  Act. 

5

5 30 

4 28 

1 79 

UNION  OF  BENEFICES  A CT   (Saint Pancras with All  Saints, Gordon Square)  :— 

1 1 4 0.  S c h e me  u n d er  t he  A ct

  o f  1 8 60 

-

by  Act. 

1 09

U N I T ED  KINGDOM   (Trade,  Commerce,  and  Condition  of  People) :­

1141.  Return relative thereto; printed 545 

(Sess. Papers, No. 329.) 

4 55 

5 45 


U N I T ED  STATES   : — 

No.  1, 1909 : 

1142.  Agreement  for  submitting  to  Arbitration  the Question  of  the  North  Atlantic 
-
c.l 

Fisheries  -

-

-

-

-

No.  2, 1909 : 

1143.  Treaty relating to Boundary Waters and Canadian Boundary 

Treaty  Series ; v. Accounts,  Nos. 1104,  1112,  1114.  


U N I T ED  STATES   OF  AMERICA  (New  Customs  Tariff):—  

1144.  Copy  of Act of  Congress  of 5th August 1909 

-

-

-

King's
Command. 

f  King's
( Command. 

3 0 

6 9 


<  King's

j Command. 

4 23 

UNIVERSITIES  OF  O X F O RD  AND  CAMBRIDGE  A C T,  1877 

Cambridge  : 

1145.  Statutes under the Act;  printed  27 

1146.  Ditto -

- ditto 

- printed 248 

-

-

Oxford'. 

1147.  Statutes under the Act;  printed 72 
- printed 176 
- ditto 
1148. Ditto -
- printed 248 
- ditto 
1149.  Statute 
-printed 411 
- ditto 
1150.  Ditto -

1151. Ditto -

- ditto 

- printed 468 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-
-

-

-
-

(Sess. Papers, No.  47.) 

by  Act. 

2 7 

(Sess. Papers, No. 199.) 

by  Act. 

2 48 

(Sess. Papers, No.  75.) 
(Sess. Papers, No. 152.) 

(Sess. Papers, No. 198.) 

(Sess. Papers, No. 270.) 
(Sess. Papers, No. 288.) 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Act. 

by  Aot. 

7 2 

1 76 

2 48 

4 11 

4 68 

U N I V E R S I TY  COLLEGES   (Great  Britain)  (Grant  in Aid)  :—  


1152. Report of Committee and Treasury Minute thereon ;  printed 221  -

-

-

- i 


(Sess. Papers, No. 182.) J 

2 18 

2 20 


UNIVERSITY  OF  A B E R D E E N :— 

1908 ;  printed 7 

1153. Annual  Statistical Report  of the  University for the year ending  30th  September 
(Sess. Papers, No. 8.)! 

1154. Abstract of Accounts of  the University for the year ending 30th  September  1908 ; J 

(Sess. Papers, No. 7.) J 

printed 7 

-

-

by  Act. 

by  Act.

7

7 

U N I V E R S I TY   OF  DURHAM  A C T,  1 9 08   : — 

1155.  Statutes under the Act;  printed 312 

U N I V E R S I TY   OF  EDINBURGH   : — 

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 230.) 

by  Act. 

3 12 

1156. Report  on the state  of the Finances  of  the  University for  the  year  ending 31st i 

August 1908 ;  printed  7 -

(Sess. Papers, No. 5.) J 

1157. Annual Statistical Report of the University for the year ended 30th September 1908 ;

108 ; i 
-
(Sess. Papers, No. 6.)J 

printed  7 -

(Sess

.  PI

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

by  Act. 

by  Aot, 

U N I V E R S I TY  OF  G L A S G O W :— 

1158. Annual Statistical Report of the University for the year ended 30th September 1908 ; i 

printed 7-

-
1159.  Abstract of Accounts of the University  for the  year  ending 30th September 1908 ; i 
(Sess. Papers, No. 48.) I 

printed  32 

(Sess. Papers, No. 4.) J  by  Act. 

by  Act. 

.  -

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

7

7

T
t 

3 2

VOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909. 

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to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME.  600 

ACCOUNTS  AND  PAPERS—continued. 

U N I V E R S I TY   OP  LONDON  A C T,  1 8 9 8 :— 

Ordered. 

Presented. 

1160. Amendment of the Statutes of the University ;  printed 276  (Sess. Papers, No. 224.) 

by  Act. 

276 

U N I V E R S I TY   OF  SAINT  A N D R E WS   : — 

1161. Annual Statistical Report for the year 1907-8 ;  printed  79 -

(Sess. Papers, No. 81.)  by  Act. 

1162.  Abstract of Accounts of the University for the year 1907-8 ;  printed 7  -

-i 
(Sess. Papers, No. 9.) J 

-

byby  Act.Act. 

7 9 

7

VICEREGAL  COMMISSION  (Irish  Railways);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  4 8 8  . 

" W A K E F I E LD  (Polling  Districts);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  7 4 5. 

"WALES  (Public  Records)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No. 813. 

W A  R  DEPARTMENT  (Sales  of Land)  :—  


1163. Return relative thereto ; printed 452 

-

-

-

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 283.) 

Address,

||  byby  Address,
4 44 4 55 
\\ 

452 

: W E E K LY  R E S T - D AY  LEGISLATION   (Miscellaneous, No.  3,  1 9 0 9 ) :—  


1164.  Reports as  to Legislation in Foreign Countries respecting a Weekly Rest-Day 

King's

11  King's
Command. 
|| Command.

W E I G H TS  AND  MEASURES   : — 

1165. Report by the Board  of Trade  of their Proceedings; printed  76 

-)
-
(Sess. Papers, No. 79.) 1 

-

-

byby  Act.Act. 

W E I - H A I - W EI   (Colonial Reports);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No.  169. 

W E L SH  COLLEGES  C O M M I T T E E :— 

1166.  Report  on  the University  of  Wales and Welsh  University  Colleges 
1167. Report  on the University of Wales and Welsh University Colleges, with Minutes  of ) 
-

Evidence and Appendices  -

- .  - -

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

King's
King's
- J  Command.
Command. 

|  King's
) Command.

10 

7766 

57

6600 

W E ST  A F R I C A :— 

1168.  Report on Sanitary Matters  in various West African Colonies 

-

W E ST  AFRICA   (Departmental  Committee)  :— 

1169. Report  on the West African Medical Staff 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

I  King's

(  Command. 

248 

-

-

|  King's 
| Command. 

276

W E ST  HIGHLAND  R A I L W AY   (Extension from  Banavie  to  Mallaig)  :— 

11701170.. EightEighthh AnnuaAnnuall ReporReportt thereon

thereon,, witwithh Accounts

Accounts,, foforr 1908-

1908-99 ;;  printed

printed 545455 --
(Sess.. Papers
(Sess

--ii 
Papers,, NoNo.. 331.331.)) 11 

--

by  Act. 

545455 

WESTMORELAND  (Polling  Districts)-,  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  7 4 6. 

°  W E ST  STANLEY  COLLIERY   (Explosions)-,  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No. 332. 

W H I S KY  AND  OTHER  POTABLE  SPIRITS   (Royal  Commission)  :— 

1171.  Final  Report of the  Commission,  with  Vol.  II.  of  Minutes  of  Evidence 

-

1172.  Index and Digests  of Evidence taken before the Commission -

-

-

W H I S KY   IN  BOND  (Scotland)  : — 
>  1173. Return relative thereto; printed 531  •  -

W I L TS   (Inquiry  into  Charities);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  No. 453. 

I W I N ES  IMPORTED   : — 

(  King's
(  Command. 

|  King's
j Command. 

* 


346 

440

(Sess. Papers, No. 318.) 


528 

531 

1174. Return relative thereto for 1908; printed  72 

-

-

-

(Sess. Papers, No. 76.) 

56 

72  ! 

W I N T ER  ASSIZES  ACTS,  1 8 76  AND  1 8 77   : — 

1175. Seven Orders in Council relating to the ensuing Winter Assizes 

-

-

-

-

by  Act. 

380 

W I N T ER  ASSIZES  

(Ireland):— 

1176. Four Orders  in Council for holding Winter Assizes in Ireland 

|WOMEN  AND  CHILDREN   IN  PUBLIC-HOUSES 

1177.  Information from Police relating thereto 

-

-

(Ireland)-.— 
-

-

-

-

by  Act, 

528 

- .

. „ _  . ((  King's
King's 
Command, 
(( Command,

69

I  WOODS,  FORESTS,  AND  L A ND  R E V E N U E S :— 
! 

1178. Abstract  Accounts  of  the  Commissioners  for the  year  ending  31st March  1908,)

with Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon; printed  16 

-

1179.  Eighty-seventh  Report  of  the Commissioners,  1909 ;  printed 262 

(Sess. Papers, No. 27.) j
-
(Sess. Papers, No. 206.) 1 

-

- >  by  Act.  ' 

by  Act. 

16

262



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I N D EX  to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME. 

6 0  1  . 

ACCOUNTS  AND PAPERS—confmwerf.  	

WORKMEN'S  COMPENSATION   : — 

1180.  Statistics of Proceedings under the Act  of 1906, and the Employers' Liability Act,) 
-1 
-

1880, during the year 1908 -

_ 

. 

-

-

-

-

-

-

WORKMEN'S  COMPENSATION  A C T,  1 9 0 6 :— 
1181.  Explanatory Memorandum  of Rules 

-

-

-

-

_ 

W O R K M E N 'S  COMPENSATION  FOR  ACCIDENTS   (Miscellaneous,  No.   8 ,  1 9 09  :  —  


1182.  Despatch forwarding Convention with France relating thereto 

-

-

Ordered. 

Presented. 

King's

Command.


4 68 

by  Aet. 

King's


f 
}  Command. 

2 07 

3 88 

WORKMEN'S  COMPENSATION  RULES   : — 

1183. Rules under the Workmen's Compensation Act, 1906 

-

-	

by  Aet. 

187 

WORKMEN'S  COMPENSATION  SCHEMES   (Friendly  Societies)  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  3 9 5. 

WORKSHOPS,  FACTORIES  A N D;  V.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.  3 3 9 - 3 6 5. 

YORKSHIRE,  W E ST  R I D I NG   (Foiling  Districts);  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NO.  747. 

ZANZIBAR  ;  v.  ACCOUNTS,  NOS.   5,  6. 

ACCOUNTS  AND  P A P E R S: 
— 

Ordered,  17,  &c.  	
Addressed for, 11, &c. 

Ordered, and presented accordingly, 84, &c. 

Presented  by Command, 5, &c. 

Laid upon the Table by Mr. Speaker, 547. 

— Laid upon the Table  by the Clerk  of the 
House,  by  Act,  8,  &c.  Pursuant  to Report  of  Select 
Committee on Expiring Laws (1866), 195. 

To be printed, 6, &c. 
Laid upon the Table  by the Clerk  of the  


By  Command,  during Recess, deli- House ;  to  be printed, 57, &c.  


vered  to Librarian  of the House of  Commons, pursuant  

to Standing Order of 14th August 1896, 4, &c. 

—  By Command, pursuant  to Address, 	

&c. 

Referred  to the  Committee of  Supply, 29, 

Referred  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole 

House, 333. 

452. 	

60, &c. 

232. 	

By Address, 90, &c. 
By Address of last Session, 23, &c.  &c. 

By Address of former Session, 206. 
By Order, 20, &c.  	
By Order  of last Session, 7, &c. 
By Order of former Session, 57, &c. 
By Act, 5, &c. 

Referred  to the Committee  on the Bill, 60, 


Order for Return discharged, 547.  


Order for Address discharged, 546. 

Order for printing discharged, 62, &c. 

Return to Order  of  last Session, presented 

with changed name, 98. 

Pursuant  to  Standing  Order  1586,  — 

Order  of last Session, for Paper to lie upon 

Pursuant  to  Standing  Order, 194c, 

Pursuant to Resolution, 84,114. 

the Table,  in part discharged, 211. 

Order for Paper to lie upon the Table,  and 

to be printed, discharged, 318. 

A D D I T I O N AL  PAYMENTS  to  LOCAL  AUTHORITIES  on Account  of  L A ND  V A L UE  DUTIES.   Vide  FINANCE  [Con­

solidated Fund]  COMMITTEE. 

A D D R E S S E S: 

O F  THANKS  :  — 

KING'S  SPEECH  ;  Motion for Address  of  Thanks  to  His  Majesty  for  His  Most  Gracious  Speech  at 
the  opening  of  Parliament,  and Debate  adjourned,  9.  Order  relative  to  precedence,  12.  Debate  on 
Address  resumed; Amendment  proposed  (Unemployment), not made  on Division ;  Main Question again 
proposed;  Debate adjourned, 12.  Resumed;  Amendment proposed (Fiscal Reform) ;  Debate adjourned, 17. 
Resumed;  Amendment  not made  on  Division ;  Main Question again proposed;  Debate  adjourned,  20. 
Resumed;  Amendment proposed (House  of  Lords) ;  Amendment  proposed  to proposed Amendment,  to 
leave out words and add others, and  on Division not made;  Question  put, pursuant  to  Standing Order 
(Closure  of Debate) ;  Question  on the Amendment  to Main  Question claimed, and  on Division Amend­
ment not made;  Main Question again proposed;  Debate adjourned, 22.  Debate resumed; Amendment 
proposed (Lawlessness in Ireland); Debate adjourned, 24.  Resumed ;  Amendment not made  on Division; 
Main  Question again proposed; Amendment  proposed (Government  of  India),  not  made  on  Division; 
Main  Question again proposed;  Debate  stood  adjourned  after  Eleven,  26-7.  Resumed; Amendment 
proposed (Local  Taxation),  on Division not made ;  Main Question again proposed ;  Amendment proposed 
(The  Congo), withdrawn ;  Main Question again proposed; Amendment proposed  (Aliens  Act,  1 9 0 5 ),  not 
made  on Division;  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing Order (Closure  of  Debate);  Main Question 
claimed and put accordingly, and agreed to;  Address agreed to ;  to  be presented by Privy Councillors  or 
Members  of His Majesty s Household, 29.  King's Answer, 31. 

VOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909.	 

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to  the  O NE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH "VOLUME. [I909„ 

A  D D RE  S  S E S—continued. 

RELATIVE   to  SPECIAL  MATTERS  : 

M I L I T A R  Y  MANOEUVRES  ACT,  1897  ( Order  in  Council);  Motion  for  an humble  Address,  &c.;  House 
counted, 165.  Adjourned Debate resumed ;  Question  put and agreed  to ;  Resolution  to  be presented by 
Privy Councillors  or Members of His Majesty's Household, 170.  King's Answer, 179. 
To be presented  by Privy Councillors  or Members of  His Majesty's Household, 29, 170. 

ADJOURNMENTS  of  the  HOUSE ;  from  Friday  till 

time, and committed, 194.  Bill reported, without Amend-
Monday, 20.  That this House  do now adjourn,  9, 20,  ment, 307.  Considered, 311.  Read the third time and 
111,  208,  224,  234,  &c.  That  this  House  do  now 
passed, without Amendment, 324.  ( Cited as  Alexandra 
adjourn till  Monday 19th  April  (Easter),  107.  That 
(Newport  and  South  Wales)  Docks  and  Railway  Act,
this  House  do  now  adjourn  till  Thursday  3rd June  1909) Royal Assent, 381. 
(Whitsuntide), 205.  Till to-morrow at Two, 547.  That 
this House do now adjourn;  Debate arising, and  it being A L I E NS   ACT,  1905.  Vide ACCOUNTS.  KING'S  SPEECH 
half  an hour after Eleven,  Mr. Speaker  adjourned the  

House without Question put, 232.  That this House,
  at  
 A L I E N  S  ;  Bill  to  make  further  provision for the expul­
its rising, do adjourn till Monday next, 303, 378.  From  sion  of Aliens convicted of certain offences, and for other 
Friday  8th  October  till  Monday  18th  October, 482.  purposes  connected  therewith;  presented,  and ordered 
From Friday 5th  November till  Tuesday 23rd Novem­
ber, 529.  From Thursday 25th November till Wednes­
day 1st December, 544. 

to be read a second time, 322. 

(Motion for  Address).

ADJOURNMENTS  of  the  HOUSE  (Motions  under  Standing 
Order No.  10);  Arrest  of  Mr.  W.  P.  Murphy,  37. 
Negatived  on  Division,  38.  Prisoners  awaiting  Trial 
in Spain, supported  by less than Forty Members ;  House 
proceeds  to
ACCOUNTS .

  of  the  day,  489.  Vide 

  the  Orders
  HOUSE . 

A F R I C A  .  Vide  ACCOUNTS . 

A G R A R I A  N  and  POLITICA L  PROSECUTION S 

(Ireland); 

Motion,  That  this House regards  with disapproval  the 
action  of  the Irish  Executive  in enforcing the Act  of 
Edward  III.  against  persons  in  Ireland  charged with 
offences  of  an  agrarian  and  political  character, and 
against  the  freedom  of  the  newspaper  press  of  the 
country,  a system under which Mr. James P. Farrell, a 
Member  of  this  House,  is  at  present  imprisoned  in 
Ireland;  and that it considers that all such cases should 
he brought before the ordinary tribunals  of  the country, 
where  evidence  on behalf  of  the  accused  can  be  pro­
duced ;  and Question  on Division negatived, 35. 

AGRARIAN  OUTRAGES   (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

AGRICULTURAL  STATISTICS   (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

AGRICULTURAL 

STATISTICS 

(Ireland) 

(Agricultural

Labourers).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

ALDERSHOT  GAS   and  W A T E R;   Bill read thefirst time, 
and referred  to the Examiners,  13.  Report, Standing 
Orders not previously inquired into complied  with, 20. 
Day appointed for Second Reading, 31.  Second Reading 
deferred,  34.  Report  from  the  Select  Committee  on 
Standing Orders,  on Petition for dispensing with Standing 
Order  128,  That  the  Standing  Order  ought  to°  be 
dispensed with, 34.  Second  Reading deferred,  40,  47, 
48, 57, 65, 67.  Read a second time, and committed, 74. 
Instruction  to  the  Committee,  76.  Reported, with 
Amendments, 129.  Considered,  as amended, 147.  Read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  154.  Agreed  to  by the 
Lords,  with  Amendments,  300.  Lords' Amendments 
agreed  to,  309. 
District  Lighting Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 381. 

(Cited  as  Aldershot  Gas,  Water,  and 

(Newport  and  South  Wales)  DOCKS  and 
A L E X A N D RA 
[Lords'];  Report,  That  the  Bill  should 
R A I L W AY 
originate  in the  House of  Lords, 9.  Report,  Standing 
Orders certified to have been complied with, 12.  Brought 
from the Lords ;  read thefirst time, and referred to the 
Examiners, 169.  Report, Standing Orders not previously 
inquired into complied  with,  184.  Bill read a second 

A L I E NS  (Naturalisation).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 
A L K A L I,  &.C.  W O R KS  REGULATION   ACT,  1906.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

A L L I A N CE  and  D U B L IN  CONSUMERS  GAS  

[ Lords] ; 
Report, That the Bill should originate  in the  House  of 
Lords,  9.  Report,  Standing  Orders certified  to have 
been complied with, 12.  Brought from the Lords ; read 
the first time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  169. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously inquired into 
complied  with,  184.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed,  194.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  290. 
Considered,  as amended, 311.  Bill read the third  time 
and  passed,  with  Amendments,  324.  To  which the 
Lords agree, 334.  (Cited  as  Alliance  and Dublin  Gas 
Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 381. 

ALLOCATION  of  T I ME  for  BILLS.  Vide  HOUSING, 

T O WN  PLANNING,  &C.  B I L L. 

I R I SH  L A ND  B I L L. 

A M B U L A N CE  SERVICE  in  the  METROPOLIS 

mental Committee).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Depart­

AMBULANCES  (Metropolis);  Bill  to enable the managers 
of  the  Metropolitan  Asylum  District  to  establish  and 
maintain  an  Ambulance  Service  in  the  County  of 
London, and  to  empower the Commissioner of Police  of 
the Metropolis  to  enter into agreements  with the said 
managers and with guardians of the poor with respect  to 
the  use and working  of  Ambulances;  presented, and 
ordered to be read a second time, 353.  Second Reading 
deferred, 368, 377, 384, 395. 

A M E N D M E N T S: 

M A D  E  :—To leave out words and add others, 

51,  63,  88,  200.  To  leave  out  a number  and insert 
another number  on a Select  Committee, 103.  To insert 
words  in  an  Instruction  to  a  Select  Committee  on a 
Private Bill, 103.  To add words, 103.  To insert words 
in  an Instruction to a Committee on a Private  Bill, 300. 
To  insert words  in  Resolution  of  Committee of Ways 
and Means,_157.  To add words  in Resolution of Com­
mittee  of  Ways  and Means, 157.  To  insert words  in 
Motion for Allocation of Time for Bills, 227.  To leave 
out words  in Motion  for  Allocation  of Time for Bills, 
229.  To leave out words (Standing Orders), 338.  To 
insert words (Standing Orders), 338, 340. 

Bills : — Second  Reading,  to  leave  out 

:now," and  add "six months," 120, 135, 185, &c. 

In  Committee,  Amendment  amended  by 

leaving out words, 259.  To leave out a subsection, 412. 
To add words, 413.  To Schedules, 473, 478. 

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6 0   3  . 

A M E N D M E N T S —  c o n t i n u e d. 
———————  On consideration,  to leave  out words and 

insert others, 239.  Made  to Clauses, 443. 

On  Third  Reading,  verbal  Amendment, 

269. 

W I T H D R A WN  :— On Address, to add  words, 
29.  To  a  Motion,  to leave  out words and add others, 
11.  To leave out words and insert others, 104.  To leave 
out a word, 104.  To insert words  on Report of Resolu­
tion  from  Committee  of  Ways  and Means,  188.  To 
leave out a sum and insert a lesser sum, 189 (Ways and 
Means).  To add words, 311.  On Ballot  for Bills and 
Motions, to leave out words,  &c., 11.  In  Committee  on 
matter, 274. 

— Bills :—Second  Reading,  "  six  months," 

146, 164. 

In  Committee,  to  insert  words,  83  (Con­

solidated  Fund  (No.  2)  Bill),  109,  123,  &c.  To add 
words, 264, 301.  To leave out words and insert others, 
103,  105,  123.  And  add others,  110,  130.  To insert 
words after the  words last inserted, 296.  To leave out 
words, 402.  To leave out words  of Schedule, 478;  ­

On consideration,  to leave  out words, 239, 
480.  To insert words, 239, 310.  To leave out a Clause, 
240, 310.  To leave out a word and insert another word, 
310, 483. 

On Order for consideration,  as amended, read, 

Amendment, " three months," proposed,  and  withdrawn, 
402-3. 

N O  T  MADE  :—On Address, 12, 20,  22, &c. 
(to  add words).  On Amendments  on going into  Com­
mittee  of Supply, to leave out words and add others, 41, 
118.  To leave out a sum and insert a lesser sum, 50, 52, 
78, &c.  Ways and Means, 193 (on Report).  To leave 
out words  of a Resolution  of Ways and Means, 152.  To 
insert words  in a Resolution  of  Ways and Means, 174, 
189.  To add words  at the end  of a Resolution of Ways 
and Means, 193.  To leave out a paragraph  on Report 
of  a  Resolution,  328  (Trish  Land  [Advances, &c.] ). 
To insert words (Standing Order), 338. 

On Bills :—Second  Reading, " six months," 
30, 42.  " Three months," 219, 220.  To leave out words 
and add others, 209. 

—  In Committee, to leave out words, 103.  To 

leave out words  and insert others, 103, 109.  And  add 
others, 148.  To add words, 109.  To insert words, 242, 
249.  To  leave  out  a  paragraph,  250,  263,  &c.  To 
insert  words,  as  amended,  296.  To  leave  out  a sub­
section, 408, 429.  To leave out words of a Schedule, 473, 
485.  And insert others, 473.  Ruled out  of order, 473. 

—-  In Committee  on matter, 274, 328. 

On consideration,  to insert words, 239, 310. 

to leave out words, withdrawn, 439.  To leave out words 
and insert others, withdrawn, 503.  To insert words ;  to 
add words, 503.  Not made, 503.  Amendment  to pro­
posed  Amendment  to  Main  Question  negatived,  22 
(on  Motion  for  Address).  Proposed Amendment,  as 
amended, further amended  by leaving  out  words, 390. 
By  inserting  words,  504.  Amendment  to  proposed 
Amendment  made  by adding  words, 103 (on Division). 
By  leaving  out words  and inserting  others,  500.
  By 
inserting  words, 504,  Amendment to proposed  Amend­
ment,  to add words, withdrawn, 174 (Ways and  Means). 
Amendment to proposed Amendment, to leave out words, 
not  made,  249,  258.  To  insert  words,  withdrawn, 
366.  To  leave  out  words,  withdrawn,  301,  Pro­
posed  Amendment  amended  by inserting  words, 296, 
301, &c.  By  leaving  out words, 495.  Amendment to 
Amendment  to  Standing  Order,  to  insert  words, 
negatived, 338.  Withdrawn, 338.  Amendment to leave 
out words, and add words  to  proposed  Amendment,  as 
amended,  withdrawn (Standing  Order), 339.  Amend­
ment  made  to  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended 
(Standing Order),  by inserting  words, 338.  By adding 
words, 339. 

Chair  empowered  to  select Amendments, 

365, 369, 372, 376, 379, 385, 386. 

Amendment  under  consideration  in Com­

mittee  on Finance Bill ruled out of order  by the Chairman, 
as  it went beyond the Resolution  in Ways and Means, 
473. 

Lords' Amendments :—Lords' Amendments 
put  off, "three  months,"  490  (Private  Bill, Sligo and 
Bundoran  Railway  Bill).  Lords'  Amendments, That 
the Question of agreement  or disagreement  be put  as a 
whole,  529.  That  this  House  doth  disagree  with the 
Lords  in their  Amendments  as a whole,  529.  Lords' 
Amendments  divided,  516-18.  Lords'  Amendments 
considered, after Amendment, " three months," proposed, 
and not made,  524.  Lords' Amendments  to  Private 
Bills  considered,  pursuant  to  Order,  358,  360,  363, 
465,  479,  502.  Consequential  Amendments  made  to 
Bills  on  consideration  of  Lords'  Amendments,  520, 
525,  532.  Amendment  made  to  the  Bill,  instead 
of  words (Lords'  Amendment) last  disagreed  to,  517, 
533.  Lords'  Amendment (words restored  to  the Bill) 
amended, 519.  That  Lords'  Amendments,  in  lieu  of 
Amendments  disagreed  to  by  the  Commons,  be now 
considered,  532.  Further  consideration  of  Lords'' 
Amendments  adjourned,  534.  Lords'  Amendments,  so 
amended, agreed to, 534.  Lords' Amendments agreed to 
(Special Entry), 538.  Lords' Amendments to Commons' 
Amendments to Lords' Amendments, and Lords' Reasons 
for disagreeing  to Commons' consequential Amendment;, 
considered,  542.  Lords'  Amendments  to  Commons' 
Amendments  to Lords' Amendments, and  to Commons' 
consequential  Amendments  to  the  Bill,  and  Lords' 
consequential  Amendment  to  the  Bill,  and  Lords' 
Amendments  in  lieu  of  their Amendments disagreed 
to  by the Commons, considered and agreed to, 542.  Vide 
B I L L S,  P U B L IC  and  P R I V A T E. 

To leave out a subsection, 256,483.  To leave out words 
and insert others, 310, 480.  To leave out a Clause, 310, 
396.  To insert words  in a Clause, 444.  To leave out  A M M AN  V A L L EY  G AS   ;  Bill  read the first time, and 
a paragraph, 481.  To  leave out words, 485.  To leave  referred to the Examiners, 13.  Order for referring Bill 
out words  of a Schedule, 485. 

to Examiners discharged;  Bill withdrawn,  65. 

LORDS. 

On Third  Reading, to leave out  words and 

add others, 487. 

A M M A N F O RD  GAS;  Bill  read thefirst time, and  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time,  13.  Read  a  second time, 
and committed, 25.  Reported, with Amendments, 145. 
considered, as amended, 159.  Read the third time  and 
passed,  168.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords, with Amend-

Amendments  to  Amendments : — Amend-
ment  to  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended,  to insert 
words, negatived,  390.  To leave out words, 390.  To  ments, 300.  Lords' Amendments agreed to, 309.  ( Cited 
leave outfines, 441. 

as  Ammanford  Gas Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 381. 
—Amendment  to  proposed  Amendment,  to  ANAESTHETICS  ;  Bill  to  regulate  the  administration  of 
insert Words, withdrawn, 366, 372, 480.  Not made, 442,  Anaesthetics;  presented, and ordered  to be read a second 
506.  Amendment to proposed Amendment,  as amended, 

time, 245.  Second Reading deferred, 317, 329, 368. 

VOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909. 

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I N D EX  

to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME. 

[1909. 

ANCIENT  MONUMENTS  (Scotland)  

{Royal 

Commission). 

{Clothing  Factory). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS.  ARMY. 

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

A N G LO   -  A R G E N T I NE   T R A M W A YS   C O M P A NY  

[Lords]; 
Report,  That  the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House 
of  Lords,  9.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have 
been  complied  with,  12.  Brought  from  the  L o r d s;   read 
the  Examiners,  76. 
the  first  time,  and  referred 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired 
into 
complied  with,  83.  Bill  read  a  second 
time,  and 
Reported,  with  Amendments,  132. 
committed,  98. 
Considered,  as  amended,  142.  Read  the  third  time 
and  passed,  with  Amendments,  149. 
the 
(Cited   as  Anglo-Argentine  Tramways 
Lords  agree,  160. 
Company,  IJmited,  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192. 

To   which 

to 

A P P L I C A T I ON  

of  

in  

F U N DS  

e x e r c i se  

S I N K I NG  

of 
BORROWING  POWERS  ;  Select  Committee  of  Five 
Members  appointed  to  inquire  and  report  as  to  the 
powers  conferred  on  Local  Authorities  by  Local  Acts, 
Provisional  Orders,  Stock  Regulations,  or  otherwise, 
of  utilising  for  purposes  for  which  such  authorities  have 
borrowing  powers  sinking  funds  (including 
loan  funds 
and  redemption  funds)  set  aside  by  them  for  the  repay-
ment  or  redemption  of  loans  raised  by  the  issue  of  stock, 
or  by  any  other  method;  as  to  the  expediency  or  other-
wise  of  such  powers  being  conferred;  and  as  to  any 
conditions  which  it  is  desirable  to  attach  to  the  granting 
or  use  of  such  powers;  nominated;  power  to  send  for 
persons,  papers,  and  records;  Three  to  be  the  quorum, 
17.  Minutes  of  Evidence 
the  Select 
Committee  in  last  Session  to  be  referred,  53.  To   be 
printed,  233.  Report,  233. 

taken  before 

A P P R O P R I A T I ON  

A C T,  

1 9 0 9.  

Y i de  

C O N S O L I D A T ED 

F U N D.  

S U P P L Y. 

ARBITRATION  (T r e a t i e s).   Y i de   ACCOUNTS. 

ARDROSSAN  a nd   B E L F A ST   M A IL   S E R V I C E;  

Resolution, 
That  the  Contract recently  made  between  the  Postmaster 
General  and  Messieurs  G.  and  J.  Burns,  Limited, for  the 
conveyance  of  Mails  between  Glasgow,  Ardrossan,  and 
Belfast  (printed  in  Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  39  of 
1909),  be  approved,  432.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

A R D R O S S AN   H A R B O UR   O R D ER   C O N F I R M A T I ON   [Lords] 

; 
Bill,  intituled  An  A ct   to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order 
under the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act, 
1899,  relating  to  Ardrossan  Harbour;  brought  from 
the  L o r d s;  
read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  (under 
Section  9  of  the  A c t)   to  be  read  a  Second  time,  295. 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  day  appointed  for  con-
sideration,  299.  Bill  considered,  306.  Read  the  third 
(Cited   as 
time  and  passed,  without  Amendment,  311. 
Ardrossan  Harbour  Order  Confirmation  Act, 
1909) 
Royal  Assent,  381. 

ARDS  RAILWAYS  ;  Bill  read  the  first  time,  and  referred 
to  the  Examiners,  13.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not 
previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  20.  Bill  read 
a  second  time,  and  committed,  31. 
Reported,  with 
Amendments,  94.  Considered,  as  amended,  102.  Read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  107.  Agreed  to  by  the 
(Cited   as  Ards 
Lords,  without  Amendment,  195. 
Railways  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

A R K L OW   H A R B O U R.  

V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

{Commissions)  {Promotion  from 

the  Ranks). 

Vide 

•  A C C O U N T S. 

(Estimates). 

V i de   ACCOUNTS.  ARMY. 

{Medical  Department). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

{Memorandum  on  Estimates). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

A R M Y. 

{Military  Savings  Banks). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

A R M Y. 

{Military  Works).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

{Ordnance  Factories).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  ARMY. 

{Pay,  Non-effective  Pay,  and  Allowances). 

Vide 

A C C O U N T S. 

{Promotions). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

—  {Reserve). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

{Special  Pensions). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

— 

{Special  Reserve).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  ARMY. 

(  Territorial  Force).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  ARMY. 

ARMY  {Annual) 

;  Bill to provide,  during  twelve  months, for 
the  discipline  and  regulation  of  the  A r m y;   ordered 
upon  Resolution  from  Committee  of  Supply  read,  74. 
Presented,  and  read  the  first  time,  74.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  79.  Read  a  second 
time  ;  Bill  committed 
to  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  81.  Committee 
deferred,  85,  100.  Order  for  Committee  read;  Motion 
for  an  Instruction  to  divide  the  Bill  into  two  parts; 
Question  negatived  on  Division;  Bill  considered 
in 
Committee,  and  at  8.15  further  proceeding  postponed, 
102-3.  Resumed;  considered  in Committee,  and  reported, 
without  Amendment;  Motion,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read 
the  third  time,  and  Question,  on  Division, resolved  in  the 
Affirmative ;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  105. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  126.  Day 
appointed  for  considering  them,  126.  Lords'  Amend-
{Annual)  Act, 
ments  agreed  to,  130. 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  135. 

{Cited  as  Army 

ARMY  {Annual) 

[ Compensation]  ;  Motion  for  the  House  to 
resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  of  authorising 
the  payment,  out  of  money  voted  by  Parliament  for 
Army  Services,  of  compensation  for  damage  caused  by 
billeting  under  any  A ct   of  the  present  Session  to  pro-
vide,  during  twelve  months,  for 
the  discipline  and 
regulation  of 
the  A r m y;   King's  Recommendation 
signified,  82.  Committee  on  matter  deferred,  83,  85. 
Matter  considered  in  Committee,  and  objection  taken 
to  further  proceeding;  the  Chairman  leaves  the chair,  89. 
Matter  considered  in  Committee;  Motion  for  Progress 
agreed  to,  91.  Proceedings  in  Committee  not  to  be 
interrupted  under  Standing  Order 
the 
House),  95.  Matter  considered 
in  Committee,  951 
Resolution  reported,  and  agreed  to,  100. 

(Sittings  of 

A R MY   E S T I M A T E S.   V i de   A C C O U N T S.  

S U P P L Y. 

A R R E ST  

of   M r.   W.  

P.   M U R P H Y.  

V i de   H O U SE 

{Adjournment). 

MEMBERS. 

A R T E R I AL   D R A I N A GE   {Ireland). 

V i de  

C I V IL   S E R V I CE 

E S T I M A T E S.  

S U P P L Y. 

ARMAGH  (South   Armagh)  W R I T.   V i de   ELECTIONS. 

A R U N D EL   P O R T.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

A R M Y.   V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

—  (•.Appropriation  Account). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

A R M Y. 

ASSISTANT  POSTMASTER  GENERAL  ;  B i ll   to  enable  an 
Assistant  Postmaster  General  to  sit  in  the  House  of 
Commons  ;  presented,  and  "ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  102.  Second  Reading  deferred,  110,-113,  115, 

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.615 

A S S I S T A NT   P O S T M A S T ER   G E N E R A L —c o n t i n u e d. 

119,  123,  127,  138,  153,  171,  190,  193,  204,  208,  212, 
223,  230,  243,  260,  280,  297,  316,  332,  350.  Bill  read  a 
second  time  ;  Bill  committed  to  a  Committee  of  the 
whole  House,  363.  Committee  deferred,  367,  376,  382. 
Bill  considered 
in  Committee,  and  reported,  without 
Amendment,  393.  Third  Reading  deferred,  397.  Bill 
read  the  third  time  and  passed,  400.  Agreed  to  by  the 
(Cited   as  Assistant 
Lords,  without  Amendment,  463. 
Postmaster  General  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  491. 

A S S O C I A T I ON  

of   P O RT   S A N I T A RY   A U T H O R I T I ES  

(Ex-
penses)  ;  Bill  to  legalise  the  payment  of  a  subscription 
to  the funds of  the Association  or the  Council;  presented, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  127.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  158,  194. 

ASSURANCE  COMPANIES  [Lords];  Bill,  intituled  An   A ct 
to  consolidate  and  amend  and  extend  to  other  Companies 
carrying  on  Assurance  or  Insurance  business  the  Law 
relating  to  Life  Assurance  Companies,  and  for  other 
purposes  connected  therewith  ;  brought  from  the  Lords, 
449.  Read  the first time, 460.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
465, 468,470,472,  474,  493,  502,  510,520,  525.  Motion, 
That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time  ;  Amendment 
proposed,  to  leave  out  words  and  add  others  ;  Debate 
arising;  Motion,  That  the  Debate  be  adjourned,  with-
drawn ;  Amendment  withdrawn;  Main  Question  put  ; 
Bill  read  a  second  time;  Bill  committed  to  a  Committee 
the  whole  House,  526-7.  Committee  deterred, 
of 
534.  Considered 
in  Committee,  and  reported,  536. 
As   amended,  considered;  Amendments  made  ;  Bill  read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments,  543.  To 
(Cited   as  Assurance 
the  Lords  agree,  545. 
which 
Companies  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  547. 

A S Y L U MS   O F F I C E R S'   S U P E R A N N U A T I ON   ;  B i ll   to   p r o v i de 
for  Superannuation  Allowances  to  officers  and  servants 
employed  in  public  Asylums  for  the  Insane  in  Great 
Britain  and  Ireland,  and  to  make  other  relative  pro-
visions ;  presented,  and ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time, 
35.  Second  Reading  deferred,  55,  59,  66,  85.  Read  a 
second  time;  Bill  committed  to  a  Select  Committee,  95. 
Select  Committee  nominated  ;  power  to  send for  persons, 
papers,  and  records  ;  Five  quorum,  109.  Bill  reported, 
with  Amendments,  and 
{Special  Report;  Report  and 
Special  Report  to  be  printed;  Bill  recommitted  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House.  374.  Committee  de-
ferred,  384.  Bill  considered  in  Committee, and  reported, 
394.  Considered,  as  amended  ;  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  409.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amend-
ments  ;  day  appointed  for considering  them;  to be  printed, 
531.  Lords'  Amendments  considered,  and  agreed  to 
(Cited   as  Asylum  Officers' 
[Special  Entry],  538. 
Superannuation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  547. 

A S Y L UM   O F F I C E R S'   S U P E R A N N U A T I ON   {Scotland)-, 

B i ll 
to  provide  for  the  grant  of  Superannuation  Allowances 
to  officers and  servants  of  public  and  district  Asylums  in 
Scotland;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  94.  Second  Reading  deferred,  116,  119,  131,  143, 
for  Second  Reading  on 
147,  161,  178,  187.  Order 
future  day  discharged  ;  Bill  withdrawn,  214. 

9  Edw.  VII.  Pari.  28.  Sess.  4.  1909. 

first 

BAKER  S T R E ET   and  W A T E R L OO   R A I L W AY   ;  Bill  read 
the 
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  13. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
complied  with,  64.  Read  a  second  time,  and  committed, 
75.  Order  for  Committee  discharged  ;  Bill  withdrawn, 
168. 

BALLOT  f or   BILLS  and  MOTIONS  ;  Motion,  T h at   no  Bills, 
other  than  Government  Bills,  be  introduced  in  antici-
pation  of  the  ballot,  & c .;   Amendment  proposed  to  leave 
out  words  and  add  others,  and  withdrawn;  Order.  &c., 
11. 

BANK  HOLIDAYS  ;  Bill  to  make  further  provision 

for 
Bank  Holidays  in  England  and  Ireland,  and  to  amend 
the  Holidays  Extension  A c t,   1875  ;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  143.  D ay   appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  156.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
165,  172,  176,  179,  183,  194,  201,  215,  217,  220,  232. 
D ay   appointed  for  Second  Reading,  242.  Second  Read-
ing  deferred,  251,  254,  261,  264,  273,  282,  288.  D ay 
appointed  for  Second  Reading,  300,  313,  331,  335,  340. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  352,  358. 

B A N K I NG   a nd   R A I L W AY   S T A T I S T I CS  

(Ireland). 

Y i de 

A C C O U N T S. 

B A NK   of   E N G L A N D.  

V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

B A N K R U P T C Y.  

V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

BANKRUPTCY  A C T,   1883  (Proceedings). 

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

B A N K R U P T CY   C O U R TS   (Ireland). 

V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

B A N K R U P T CY  
S P E A K E R. 

of  

a  M E M B E R.  

V i de   M E M B E R S. 

BANKRUPTCY  (G e n e r al   Rules). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

BANKS  (Unclaimed  Balances  and  Securities)  ;  Motion  for 
leave  to  bring  in  a  Bill  to  provide  for  the  disclosure 
and  handing  over  by  Bankers  to  the  Department  of 
the  Public  Trustee  of  the  amount  of  dormant  Balances 
and  Securities  in  their  possession,  and  of  unpresented 
old  bank-notes  issued  by  t h e m;   Question  put,  pur-
suant  to  Standing  Order  No.  11,  and,  on  Division,  agreed 
to  ;  Bill  ordered,  and  presented  accordingly;  read  the 
first  time,  268. 

BAR  of  the  HOUSE ;  Petition  presented  at  the  Bar  by  the 

Lord  Mayor  of  Dublin,  217. 

BARRY  RAILWAY  [Lords];  Report,  That  the  Bill  should 
originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  9.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  certified to  have  been  complied  with,  12.  Brought 
from  the  Lords,  196.  Read  the  first  time,  and  referred 
to  the  Examiners,  197.  Standing  Order  128  suspended,  -
and  time  for  depositing  Petitions  praying  to  be  heard 
against  the  Bill  extended,  204.  Report,  Standing  Orders 
not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  210.  Bill 
read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  221.  Bill  reported, 
with  Amendments,  331.  Bill  considered,  as  amended  ; 
Standing  Orders  223  and  243  suspended;  Bill  read  the 
third time  and passed,  with  Amendments,  346.  To   which 
(Cited   as  Barry  Railway  Act, 
the  Lords  agree,  361. 
1909)  R o y al   Assent,  381. 

BASTARDY  ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Bastardy  Acts,  and  for 
other  purposes  relating  thereto  ;  presented,  and  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time,  73.  Read  a  second  time,  and 
.Standing 
committed 
to  a  Standing  Committee,  83. 
Committee  C,  86.  Members  discharged 
the 
from 
Committee,  others  appointed,  114.  Fifteen  Members 
added  in  respect  of  the  Bill,  115.  Order  for  committal 
to  Standing  Committee  discharged;  Bill  committed  to 
Select  Committee  on  Bastardy  Orders,  179.  Reported 
from  the  Select  Committee,  without  Amendment,  334. 

BASTARDY  ORDERS ;  Select  Committee  appointed 

to 
inquire  and  report  as  to  the  Law  relating  to  the  making 
and  enforcement  of  Orders  under  the  Acts  relating  to 
Bastardy,  and  to  report  whether  any,  and  if  so,  what 

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amendments  are  required  in  the  same ;  nominated ; 
power  to send for persons, papers, and records ; Three 
quorum, 179.  Bastardy Bill committed to the Committee, 
179.  Report, 334.  Reported, without Amendment, 334. 

B A TH   (City)  ELECTRIC  S U P P LY   [Lords];  Report, That 
the Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of Lords,  9. 
Report, Standing Orders certified  to have been complied 
with, 12. 

B E ER  (Customs).  Vide  W A Y  S  and  M E A N S. 

BERMONDSEY .  Vide  ELECTIONS,  S O U T H W A R K. 

B U L LS 

: 

P U B L I C :— 

Ballot  for  Bills  and  Motions  agreed to, after 

Amendment proposed and withdrawn,  11. 

Presented  at  the  commencement  of  Public 

Business :—By the Government,  11, 17, 32.  37,  40, 41, 
58, 63,  88,  102,  107,  118,  137,  160,  177,  192,  214, 
226,  242,  359,  380,  384,  392,  407, 423, 429, 465, 479. 
By  Private  Members,  18, 20, 21, 22,  24,  26,  28,  32, 35, 
37, 40, 41, 44, 46, 49,  50, 53,  58,  61, 63, 65, 70, 73, 76, 
80,  84,  87,  88,  91,  94,  96, 99, 102, 107, 118, 123, 127, 
130,  132,  141,  143,  145,  160,  164,  166, 169, 174,  177, 
184,  187,  188, 198, 205,  211,  216,  219,  226,  236,  246, 
249, 255,  263,  266, 271,  300,  313,  322,  337,  353, 359, 
364, 374, 398, 415, 421, 423, 472, 494. 

—• 

Outlawries Bill;  read thefirst time,  4. 
Bill  ordered  upon  Report  of  Resolution from 
Committee  of  Ways  and  Means,  357  (Consolidated 
Fund (Appropriation) Bill). 

Bill  ordered upon Report  of  Resolutions from 

Committee  of  Ways  and Means  of  a former day  and 
agreed  upon  on  subsequent  days, and  on Resolutions 
reported  and agreed upon the  same day, 203 (Finance 
Bill). 

Ordered, 32, 37, &c.  Presented accordingly, 33, 
37, 109, &c.  Question put, pursuant  to Standing Order 
No. 11, 32, 77, 109, 180, 266 (on Division), 359. 

Ordered  on  Report  of  Resolution  from Com­

mittee of Supply read, 74 (Army (Annual) Bill). 


— Ordered  to  be  brought  in  on  Report  of 

Resolutions from  Committee  of  Ways  and Means, 41, 
79, 203, 357. 

Ordered  to  be  brought  in  upon  Report from  


Committee of the whole House, 81. 


Presented, 17.  Supported by Members ; names 

given ;  read thefirst time, 18, 21, &c. 

Motion for leave to bring in a Bill, and  Question 
resolved  in  the Affirmative after Amendment proposed, 
to leave out words and add others, not made  on Division, 
115. 

Order  for  Second  Reading  read;  Motion for 

adjournment  of  Debate,  and  at  Eleven  of  ihe  clock  

Motion for  adjournment of  the  Debate lapsed; Debate  

stood adjourned, 130. 


Order  for  Second  Reading  read ;  Amendment 
proposed, " six months ;"  Closure claimed ;  assent with­
held ;  Question  on Amendment put, pursuant  to Standing 
Order  (Closure  of  Debate);  Amendment  not  made ; 
Bill read a second time, 30, 42. 

—  Order  for Second  Reading  read;  Amendment  


proposed, "  six months; "  Debate adjourned, 92, 112. 


Order for Second Reading read ; proceeding post­

poned at 8.15 ; resumed, and objection  taken;  it being 
after Eleven of the clock, Debate stood adjourned, 116. 
Order  for  Second  Reading  read; Amendment 
proposed, "  six months;"  and  at 8.15 further proceeding 
postponed,  88.  Resumed,  and  it  being  after Eleven, 
and objection being taken,  Debate stood adjourned,  89. 
Resumed; Amendment not made  on Division ;  Bill read a 
second time, 92. 
—	 
Order  for  Second  Reading  read;  Amendment 
proposed,  " six months,"  and,  on  Division,  made,  120, 
135, 185, 

Order  for  Second  Reading read, and Question 

put, and, on Division, agreed to, 510. 

Read a second time :— 

After Amendment, "  six months,"  proposed and 

not  made,  56,  92,  112,  &c. 
Question  put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order (Closure  of 
Debate), 30, 68, 96, &c. 

"  Three  months,"  219. 

Main  Question  claimed,  and  Question  put 

accordingly, and agreed to  on Division, 42-3. 

After  Amendment proposed,  to leave out  words  


and add others, not made  on Division, 148.  


After Amendment proposed,  to leave out words 
and add others, proceeding postponed at 8.15 ; resumed, 
and  Question put, pursuant to Standing Order (Closure 
of Debate);  Amendment not made, 99-100. 

After  Motion,  That  the  Debate  be adjourned, 

withdrawn, 74. 

After Amendment proposed,  to leave  out  words 

and  add  others,  withdrawn,  130,  527.  Negatived  on 
Division;  Question put, pursuant to Closure, 209-10. 
—.—  After  proceeding  postponed  at  8.15  and  re­
sumed, 80, 99. 

After A mendment "  six months,"  proposed and 

withdrawn, 146, 164.  " Three months," 817. 

—  Second  Reading  deferred,  31,  &c.  Second 
Reading put off for "  six months," on Division, 120, 135. 
—  — Proceedings interrupted  by Message delivered  by 
Black Rod,  on Order for Second Reading  of  a Bill, 88. 
On consideration of a Bill, 491. 

Motion for leave to bring in a Bill;  Mr. Speaker 

puts Question,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  No.  11, 
and Question negatived on Division, 73,174. 

Order of  the day read for Second  Reading of a 

Bill;  no further proceeding;  House  was adjourned at 

half-past Eleven, 220.  


Brought from the Lords, 53, 65, &c.  Read  the 

first  time, 53, 65, &c. 

Order for  Second  Reading  read;  Amendment 

proposed, to leave out words and add others, and Debate 
adjourned  on Motion, 82.  Order for  Second Reading 
read, and  at Five  of  the clock Debate stood adjourned, 
82, 149.  Eleven  of  the clock, 112.  Order for Second 
Reading read, and Debate adjourned on Motion, 120. 

—  Order of  the day read for Second  Reading of a 


Bill;  House counted out, 493.  


Order  for  resuming  adjourned  Debate  on 

Amendment  on  Second  Reading  discharged;  another 
day appointed, 209. 

Order  for  Second  Reading  discharged;  Bill  


withdrawn, 213, 285.  


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PUBLIC— continued. 


Order for  Second Reading  on future  day dis­

charged ;  Bill withdrawn, 26, 63, 79, &c.  


Order  for resuming  adjourned  Debate  on  Second 

Reading  on future day discharged ;  Bill withdrawn, 130. 

Order  for  Second  Reading  on future day dis­

charged ;  another day appointed, 76, 84, &c. 


Committed:— 

To  Standing Committees, 56, 116, 148, &c., 221 

(on  Division).  Vide  COMMITTEES,  After  Motion  

for commitment  to Committee  of  the whole House,  and  

Question negatived  on Division,  31,  97,  112, 123,210, 

221, 424.  


—  After  Motion  for  commitment  to  a  Select 

Committee, and Question negatived, 47. 

To a  Select Committee, 44, 95.  After Motion  

for  commitment  to  Committee  of  the  whole  House  

negatived  on  Division,  43.  To  a  Committee  of the  

whole House, 68, 92, 100, 166 (on Division).  


— Bill  considered  in  Committee,  and  reported,  

without Amendment;  read the  third time  and passed, 

363, 392, 504.  


Considered  in Committee, and reported,  without 

Amendment,  and,  on Division, read  the third time  and 
passed, 104 (Army (Annual) Bill). 

—	 

Reported  from  Select  Committee,  without 

Amendment, 141. 

Reported  from  Standing  Committees,  with 

Amendments, 79, 87, 117, 126, &c.  


.— 

. Reported  from  Standing  Committee,  without  


Amendment, 140, 173, &c.  


Bill,  as amended  in the  Standing  Committee,  and  on 
recommittal,  considered;  Clause  added ;  Amendments 
made;  day appointed for Third Reading, 221. 

Order for consideration,  as amended  in the. Stand­
ing Committee, read ;  Bill recommitted  to a Committee 
of  the whole House  in respect of a Clause ; considered 
in  Committee, and reported, without Amendment ; day 
appointed for consideration, as amended in the  Standing 
Committee, 233. 

As amended  in  Committee, and  on recommittal, 

considered, 442. 

As amended  on consideration, to be printed, 248. 

As amended on recommittal, and  on consideration, 

to  be printed, 222.  Order for consideration,  as amended 
in the Standing Committee, read ;  Bill recommitted  to a 
Committee  of  the whole  House ;  considered  in Com­
mittee, and reported;  considered,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee,  and  on  recommittal;  read the 
third time and passed, 343. 

Considered,  as  amended (in  a  Standing Com­

mittee), after Motion  to recommit the Bill to a Committee  

of  the  whole  House negatived  on  Division,  255, 487,  

489, &c.  Bill read the third time and passed, 487.  


Considered, as amended ; Bill read the third time  


and passed, 123, 310.  Schedules amended, and added  to  

the Bill;  Bill read the third time and passed, 485.  


Considered (not amended);  Bill  read the third 

time and passed, 329. 

Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  85.  After 

Amendment, " three months," not made, 233, 416, 445,  

528.  After Amendment, to leave out words and insert 
others, not made  on Division, 407-8. 

Third Reading, Question put forthwith, 434. 

Reported,  with  an  amended  Title,  after  re­

committal, 221. 

— 

Royal Assents; 58, 88, 135, 192, 380, 446, 491. 


—  Reported, with Amendments and Special Report," 

—	 

:— Allocation  of  time for various stages  of certain 


374. 

—  Recommitted  to  a  Committee  of  the whole  

House  in respect  of  a Clause, 221, 233.  Ia respect  of  

Amendments  to  Clauses,  440  (on  Division).  Recom­
-	  mitted  to a Committee of the whole House from a Select  


—	 

Committee, 242, 374. 


Bills ;  Orders made, 226, 228. 


Bills considered, pursuant to Order of the  House  


as  to  allocation  of  time:—Irish  Land  Bill  (in  Com­
mittee), 292, 328, 345, 398, 401, 404, 407, 410.  Housing,  

Town Planning, &c. Bill (in Committee), 411, 415.  


Distributed  by Mr. Speaker  to  Standing Com­

mittees; A, 52, 60,102.  B, 64,128, &c.  C, 117,134, &c. 

Scottish Standing Committee, 33, 234.  Vide  STANDIN G  

COMMITTEES. 

Transferred  from  Standing  Committee  B  to 

Standing Committee C, 247. 

—  — withdrawn, 397, 398.  


COMMONS'  B I L LS  : 

Returned from  the  Lords,  with  Amendments, 

126. 

—-—-—  Lords' Amendments agreed to, 130, 482, &c.  


—  Order for committal  of  Bill to a Standing Com­
mittee discharged; Bill committed to a Select Committee, 
179. 


, 

Considered,  as  amended,  433,  440.  After 
Motion  to  recommit the  Bill  negatived  on Division,  

487, 489.  


Order for  consideration,  as amended, read; Bill  


recommitted to Committee of whole House  on Division;  

considered  in  Committee,  and reported;  considered,  as  

amended,  in Committee, and  on  recommittal;  further  

consideration of proposed Clause,  as amended, adjourned,  

440-2. 


— —  —  Order  for  consideration,  as  amended  in  the  

Standing  Committee, read;  Bill recommitted ; Instruc­
tion  to  the  Committee ;  Bill considered in Committee, 
and reported, with Amendments and  an amended Title; 

Days  appointed  for  consideration  of  Lords' 

Amendments, 505. 

Returned  from  the  Lords,  with  Amendments ; 
several disagreed to,  several agreed to; several amended 
and agreed  to ;  several Amendments divided, part dis­
agreed to,  part agreed to;  several  other Amendments 
disagreed to, several agreed to; one Amendment amended 
and agreed to ;  several other Amendments disagreed to ;
other  Amendments divided,  part agreed  to,  part dis­
agreed  to;  Amendment  made  to the Bill,  instead  of 
words disagreed to;  another  Amendment divided, part 
disagreed to, part amended, and agreed  to ; Amendment 
made  to the  Bill,  instead  of  Lords'  Amendment  dis­
agreed  to;  several  other  Amendments  agreed  to, 
several  disagreed  to ;  words  so  restored  to  the  Bill 
amended;  several  other  Amendments  disagreed  to. 

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several agreed to;  consequential Amendments  made  to 
the Bill;  Committee appointed  to draw  up Reasons for 
disagreeing  to  certain  of  the  Lords'  Amendments; 
nominated;  Three  quorum;  to  withdraw immediately, 
514-20.  Reasons reported, and agreed  to, 521.  Lords 
agree  to  certain  Commons'  Amendments  to  Lords' 
Amendments, and  to  Commons' consequential Amend­
ments,  with  Amendments;  disagree  to  certain  other 
Amendments, and propose Amendments  in lieu thereof, 
and have made a consequential Amendment to the Bill; 
do not insist on certain  of  their  Amendments disagreed 
to  by this House, and  do not insist  on  certain other  of 
their  Amendments,  but  propose  Amendments  in lieu 
thereof, 531.  Day appointed for consideration of Lords' 
Amendments  to  Commons'  Amendments  to  Lords' 
Amendments and Commons' consequential Amendments 
to  the Bill, and Lords' consequential  Amendment, and 
Lords' Amendments  in lieu of Amendments disagreed  to 
to  be printed,  532.  Consideration  of  Lords' Amend­
ments deferred, 538.  Lords' Amendments  to Commons' 
Amendments  to Lords' Amendments and  to Commons' 
consequential  Amendment  to  the  Bill,  and  Lords' 
consequential  Amendments  to  the  Bill,  and Lords' 
Amendments  in  lieu  of  their  Amendments disagreed 
to,  considered,  and  agreed  to,  542  (Housing,  Town 
Planning, &c. Bill). 

Returned  from the  Lords,  with Amendments, 

504.  Day  appointed  for  considering  them, and  to be 
printed,  505.  Consideration  of  Lords'  Amendments 
deferred,  521,  528.  Motion,  That  the  Question  of 
agreement  or  disagreement  with the  Lords'  Amend­
ments  be  put with respect  to  the  Amendments  as  a 
whole,  on Division, agreed to, 529.  Lords' Amendments 
considered, and  disagreed  to  on  Division  as  a whole; 
Committee  appointed  to  draw  up  Reasons,  &c., 529. 
Reasons  reported,  and agreed to,  530.  Lords  do not 
insist  on their Amendments  to which this  House hath 
disagreed, but propose other Amendments  in lieu thereof; 
Lords'  Amendments  to  be printed, 531.  Order,  That 
the  Lords'  Amendments, in  lieu  of  the Amendments 
disagreed  to  by this  House,  be now considered ; con­
sidered accordingly;  several agreed to, several disagreed 
to;  a  consequential  Amendment  made  to the  Bill; 
several other  Amendments  agreed  to,  amended,  and 
agreed  to,  and  disagreeed  to;  Amendment  made  to 
the Bill,  instead  of words disagreed to;  Amendments 
amended,  and  agreed  to;  further  consideration  of 
Lords' Amendments adjourned, 532-4.  Lords' Amend­
ments  further  considered;  several agreed to,  one dis­
agreed to;  several amended, and agreed to; remaining 
Amendments agreed to;  Committee appointed  to  draw 
up Reasons, &c.;  nominated;  Three  quorum;  to with­
draw, 535.  Reasons reported, and agreed to, 538.  The 
Lords agree  to the  Amendments made  by this House 
to the further Amendments made  by the Lords  to the 
Bill,  and the consequential Amendments made  by this 
House  to the  Bill,  without  Amendment,  and  do not 
insist  on their Amendments  to which this  House  hath 
disagreed, 545 (Irish Land Bill). 

Returned from the  Lords, with Amendments; 
day appointed for considering  them, and  to  be printed, 
505.  Consideration deferred, 521, 529, 534.  Motion for 
consideration  of Lords'Amendments;  Debate adjourned, 
536.  Debate  resumed;  Question  put, and agreed to; 
Lords'  Amendments  considered  (Message  by  Black 
Rod) ;  several agreed to, and disagreed to; Amendment 
divided, and disagreed  to ;  one amended, and agreed to; 
A m e n d m e n  t  made  to the Bill, in lieu  of  Lords' Amend­
ments disagreed to;  several others  agreed to, and dis­

agreed  to;  others  amended,  and  agreed  to;  Com­
mittee appointed to draw  up Reasons, &c. ;  nominated ;
Three quorum;  to withdraw, 539-42.  Reasons reported, 
and agreed to,  543.  The  Lords  agree  to  the  Amend­
ments made  by this  House  to  the  Amendments made 
by the Lords  to the  Bill, without Amendment, and  do 
not insist  on  their  Amendments  to  which this House 
hath disagreed,  545 (Development and Road Improve­
ment Funds Bill). 

— 

Returned  from  the  Lords,  with  Amendments, 
505.  Motion, That the Lords'Amendments be now con­
sidered;  Amendment  proposed,  "three  months,"  on 
Division,  not  made ;  Lords'  Amendments  considered; 
several agreed to, several disagreed to;  one amended, and 
agreed  to ;  a consequential Amendment proposed  to be 
made  to  the  Bill,  on  Division,  agreed  to;  another 
Amendment agreed to, another disagreed to;  Committee 
appointed  to draw  up Reasons for disagreeing  to certain 
of the Lords'Amendments ;  nominated ;  Three quorum ;
to  withdraw,  524.  Reason  reported;  and  agreed to, 
526.  Lords' agree to Commons' Amendments  to Lords' 
Amendments, with Amendments ;  disagree  to Commons' 
consequential Amendment, and assign a Reason;  do not 
insist  on their Amendments  to which this House hath 
disagreed;  day  appointed  for  consideration  of  Lords' 
Amendments  and  Reason,  and  to  be  printed,  531. 
Consideration  of  Lords'  Amendments  and  Reason 
deferred,  538.  Lords'  Amendments  to  Commons' 
Amendments to Lords' Amendments, and Lords' Reason 
for disagreeing  to Commons' consequential Amendment 
to the Bill, considered;  one Amendment agreed to, one 
disagreed to;  Lords' Reason for disagreeing  to Clause 
inserted  by the Commons considered;  Resolution,  That 
this House doth not insist upon its Amendment disagreed 
to by the Lords;  Amendment made  to the Bill instead 
thereof;  Committee appointed to draw up Reasons, &c.; 
nominated ;  Three quorum ;  to withdraw, 542.  Reason 
for  disagreement  reported, and  agreed to, 544  (Small 
Dwelling-Houses  in  Burghs  Letting  and  Rating 
(Scotland)  Bill)  (changed  from  House  Letting  and 
Rating (Scotland) Bill). 

Lords' Amendments  to  be  printed,  505,  531, 
532.  Further  consideration  of  Lords'  Amendments 
adjourned, 534. 

Lords' Amendments  agreed  to (Special Entry), 

538.  Lords' Reason considered;  House  doth not insist 
upon its Amendment disagreed  to  by  the Lords,  543. 
An Amendment made  to the Bill instead thereof, 543. 

Lords' Amendments disagreed  to as a whole, 529 

(on Division). 

Lords'  Amendments,  That  the  Question  of 
agreement  or disagreement  be put  with respect  to the 
Amendments as a whole, on Division, agreed to, 529. 

—  Lords'  Amendments  considered,  after Amend­

ment, " three months," proposed and not made, 524. 

Lords' Amendments divided, 516-18, 540. 

LORDS'  B I L LS   : — 

Returned  to  the  Lords,  with  Amendments, 
123.  Lords  agree  to  Commons'  Amendments, with 
Amendments,  142.  Lords'  Amendments  to Commons' 
Amendments to the Bill agreed to, 177 (Indian Councils 
Bill).  Vide AMENDMENTS. 

LORDS. 

PRIVATE :— 

List  of  Bills  to  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords, 

9. 

Certificate  of  Examiners as  to compliance with  


Standing Orders, 12. 


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PRIVATE— continued. 

Brought from the  Lords;  read thefirst time, 

and referred  to the Examiners, 76, 91, &c. 

Petition for additional provision referred to the 

Examiners, 150. 

Bead  thefirst time,  and  ordered  to be read a 
second time, 13, &c.  And referred  to the Examiners, 13, 
Sec. 

Bill  to  be read a second  time, after Resolution 

from Standing Orders Committee read, 225. 

Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  after 

. Amendment, "  six months," proposed and not made, 55, 
100 (on resumption of. adjourned Debated  Withdrawn, 
146, 164, &c.  « Three months," 236, 272. 

After  Motion  for  adjournment  of  the Debate 
withdrawn, 74.  Motion  for  Second Reading ;  Amend­
ment proposed, "  Three months," and Debate adjourned 
on Motion, 307. 

After Standing  Orders suspended, 159.  After 
Amendment proposed, " six months," and not made,  and 
on  interruption  of  Business  by  Mr.  Speaker, after 
Eleven, and Question put, pursuant  to  Standing Order 
(Closure of Debate), 253. 

Motion for  Second Reading ;  Amendment pro­
posed,  " three  months,"  not  made  on Division ;  Main 
Question proposed ; Mr. Speaker interrupts the Business, 
and Question  put, pursuant to  Closure, and agreed  to ;
Bill read a second time, 253. 

Motion, That  a Bill be  committed  to  a Select 

Committee, and Debate adjourned ;  objection taken after 
Eleven,  100.  Committed  to a  Select Committee, after 
Amendments made,  103. 

Bills, &c.  to  be extended to thefirst day  on which the 

House shall sit after the Recess (Easter), 102.  (Whit­
suntide), 194.  


Standing  Order  128  suspended,  and  time for 

depositing  Petitions  praying  to  be heard  against Bills 
extended, 204. 

Considered,  as  amended,  72.  Considered,  as 

amended ;  Standing  Orders suspended ;  Bill  read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  '311,  346.  Considered,  as 
amended ;  Standing Orders suspended;  King's  Consent 
signified ;  Bill read  the third time and passed, 294, 330, 
&c.  Standing  Orders  suspended ;  Bill  considered,  as 
amended ;  Standing Orders suspended, and Bill read the 
third time and passed, 378. 

Standing Orders 220 and 246, relating to Private 

Bills  (returned  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments), 
suspended for the remainder of the Session, 346. 

Order, 358, 300, 363, 465, 479, 502. 

Lords'  Amendments  considered,  pursuant  to 
' 
Order  for  referring  Report  of  Examiners  to 
Select Committee on  Standing Orders discharged ;  Bill 
withdrawn, 121. 

, 

Order  for  referring  Bill  to  Examiners  dis­

charged ;  Bill withdrawn, 65. 

Order  for  Second  Reading  discharged;  Bill 

withdrawn, 26, 144. 

Order for Second Reading  on  future day dis­

charged ;  Bill withdrawn, 98. 

Order  for  Committee  discharged ;  Bill  with • 

drawn, 114, 168. 

Bills reported, with Amendments, from  Groups, 
53.  And  an amended Title,  94,  145,  219,  225, &c. 
Reported,  certain  powers  struck  out;  additional pro­
visions  inserted;  Title  amended,  225.  Reported, 
Preamble  not proved,  167.  Part  of  Preamble struck 
out,  177, 219.  Pursuant  to  Instruction, 129.  Certain 
Clauses struck out, pursuant to Resolution, 219. 

Resolution  reported from Select  Committee  on 

Standing  Orders read;  Bill  to be read a second time, 
126,  156.  Reported,  additional provision inserted pur­
suant  to Resolution, 252,  286  (from  Local Legislation 
Committee), 360. 

Instructions  to  Committees  on  Bills,  67,  76, 

103.  Amended, 282. 

Reported from Local Legislation Committee, 83, 

145, 173, 180, 216, 252. 

—	 

Order for committing Bill to a Select Committee 

discharged;  Bill withdrawn,  121. 

Order for committing Bill to  Local Legislation 
Committee  suspended;  Bill  referred  to  Committee  on 
unopposed Bills, 368. 

Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  57.  After 

verbal Amendment made, 269.  New Title, 191, 257. 

Bill read the third time and passed, after Amend­

ment,  " three months,"  proposed,  and,  on Division, not 
made, 236. 

King's Consent signified; Bill read the third time 

and passed, 67, 147, 184, &c. 

—— 

King's Consent signified as Duke  of  Lancaster; 

Bill read the third time and passed, 208. 

Prince  of Wales' Consent  as Duke of Cornwall 

Reported ;  Clause struck out;  Petition referred 

to the  Committee, and  Petitioners  heard  by Counsel, 
&c., 409.  Reported, parties  do not proceed, 410. 

signified,  184. 

Short Title changed, 410. 

—	 

Standing Orders suspended;  Bill read a second 

— 

Royal Assent, 88, 192, 380, 446, 491. 

time, 159. 
— 
to sit and proceed forthwith, 159. 

Standing Orders suspended ;  Committee  on Bill 

Recommitted  to the former Committee, Standing 

Orders 236 and 237, suspended;  Committee  to  sit and 
proceed forthwith, 373.  Reported, with further Amend­
ments, 374. 

Standing  Orders  dispensed  with;  Resolution 
from Select Committee  on Standing  Orders read; Bill 
to be read a second time, 358. 

Standing  Orders  39,  128,  204,  and  230 sus­

pended, and time for depositing Petitions against Private 

YOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909. 

COMMONS'  B I L LS   : — 

Agreed to  by Lords, without Amendment, 142. 

Returned from  the Lords,  with  Amendments ; 
Lords' Amendments  considered;  several agreed to, one 
disagreed  to ; Committee appointed  to draw  up Reasons, 
&c.;  nominated;  Three quorum ;  to withdraw ; Reason 
reported,  and  agreed to;  Message  to  the  Lords,  475. 
Message from the Lords not insisting  on  their Amend­
ment, 479. 

Consideration of Lords' Amendments put off for 


three months, 490.  


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610 

BILLS—continued. 

R E P O R TS  F R OM  G R O U PS
A ND  R A I L W AY  B I L L S.

  O F  P R I V A TE  B I L LS 
  Vide also  R E P O R TS   : — 
(Group A) ;  Adjournment of Committee, 53, 68, 


82.  Attendance of Witness, 82. 

—(Group  B) ;  Adjournment  of  Committee,  129. 

Non-attendance  of a Member, 148. 

(Group C);  Adjournment  of  Committee,  121,  


140.	  Attendance of Witness, 148, 176. 


(Group  E);  Adjournment  of  Committee, 218, 


239, 262.  


(Group F);  Adjournment  of  Committee, 271,  


277, 289, 


(Group  G) ;  Adjournment  of  Committee, 290,  


322. 

R A I L W AY  B I L LS   :— 

(Group 1);  Adjournment of  Committee, 79, 97, 


&c. 


(Group  2) ;  Attendance  of  Witness,  137, 

Adjournment of Committee, 149, 167, 185, &c.  


(Group  3);  Attendance  of  Witness,  151. 

Adjournment of Committee, 177, 197, 218, &c.  


(Group 4);  Adjournment of Committee,  167. 
—-  (Group  5);  Adjournment  of  Committee, 307,  


312, 327,  &c.  


(Group  6);  Adjournment  of  Committee, 319,  


328, &c.  


L O R D S'	   B I L LS  : 

Report  of list of Bills to originate in the House 

of Lords,  9. 

Returned, with Amendments, 221.  Passed, with 

Amendments,  221.  To  which  the  Lords  agree,  258,  

&c. 


Read the third time and passed, without Amend­

ment, 211. 

Read  the  third time and passed, with Amend­

ments, 208, 379. 


As  amended, considered ;  Standing  Orders sus­

pended ;  King's  Consent  signified;  Bill  read the third 
time and passed, with Amendments, 379. 

PROVISIONAL  ORDER  BILLS:—  


Presented,  and referred  to  the  Examiners, 30,  

49,  &c.  Presented;  Standing  Order  193a suspended;  

Bill read thefirst time, and referred  to  the Examiners,  

209, 265.  Examiners report  no Standing Orders appli­
cable,  102,  144.  Standing  Orders  applicable  thereto  

complied with,  144,  149.  Bill  ordered  to  be  read a 

second time, under Section 9 of  the Private Legislation  

Procedure (Scotland) Act, 39, 209. 


: 

Read a second time, and committed, 72.  

Presented, and ordered, under Section 7  of the 
Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  to  be 
considered, 224. 

Read  a  second  time,  and  day  appointed for 

c o n s i d e r a t i o n,  4 3,  2 2 1.  


_ 

Brought  from  the Lords,  and  ordered, under  


Section  7  of  the Private  Legislation  Procedure (Scot­
land) Act, 1899, to  be considered, 49, 277. 


Reported,  without  Amendment ;  Provisional 

Order confirmed, 94, 145, 180, SEE. 


Bill  reported,  with  Amendments ;  one Order 
not  confirmed ;  remaining  Order  confirmed;  Title 
amended, 249. 

Read the third time and passed,  134. 
That  in the  case  of a  Provisional  Order Bill 
Standing Order 208a  be suspended, and Instruction  to 
the Committee of  Selection  to refer part of  the  Bill  to 
the Local Legislation Committee, 162. 

Part of a Provisional Order Bill  referred  to the 
Local  Legislation  Committee, pursuant  to  Instruction ; 
one Order not confirmed; remaining  Order confirmed ; 
Title amended, 249. 

Order,  That  so much  of Standing Order  73  as 
provides  that notice  of  the  day  on  which a  Bill for 
confirming any Provisional Order will be examined shall 
not be given  until  after the Bill has been printed and 
circulated, suspended  for the  remainder  of  the Session, 
330. 

Vide G AS  P R O V I S I O N AL  O R D ER  B I L L. 

L A ND 

D R A I N A GE  P R O V I S I O N AL  O R D ER  B I L L S. 
R A I L W AY 
R A T ES  a nd  C H A R G ES  P R O V I S I O N AL  O R D ER  B I L L. 
K I R K W A LL  W A T ER 
P R O V I S I O N AL  O R D ER  B I L L. 
M U S S E L B U R GH  G AS  O R D ER  C O N F I R M A T I ON  B I L L. 

HYBRID  BILLS:—  


Presented, 19, 22, &c.  


Examiners  to examine Bill with respect  to com­

pliance with Standing Orders, 21, 24, 45.  


Report,  Standing  Orders  applicable  thereto  


complied with, 30.  Not complied with, 39, 57.  


BILLS  UNDER THE PRIVATE  LEGISLATION 
PROCEDURE  (SCOTLAND)  ACT,  1899:— 

Report  of  names  of  Fifteen  Members  to form 

the Parliamentary Panel  of  Members  to act  as Com­
missioners under the Act, 28. 

Name  of  Member  discharged  from  the Par­

liamentary Panel ; another appointed, 35. 

—	 
Report  of  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  of 
Bills  which should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords, 
30. 

Report  from  Examiners,  they  have certified 

Standing Orders complied with, 56. 

Bill presented ;  read thefirst time, and  ordered  


(under Section  9  of  the Act)  to be read a second time,  

172, 209, 401, 488.  


Ordered  (under  Section  7  of  the  Act)  to  be  


considered, 194, 224, 245, 401, 428, 452.  


Read  a  second  time,  and  day  appointed for 

consideration, 221.  Considered, 234. 

Referred  to Examiners, and report no Standing 
Orders applicable, and (under  Section 9 of  the Act)  to 
be read a second time, 39. 

0 

—	 

Brought from  the  Lords, and  ordered (under  

Section  9  of  the Act)  to  be read a  second time, 271,  

295. 

Brought from  the  Lords,  and  ordered  (under  


Section 7 of the Act) to be considered, 49, 277.  


Considered ;  and  day  appointed  for  Third 

Reading, 56. 







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B I L LS  UNDER  T HE  P R I V A TE  L E G I S L A T I O N, 

BOARD  of  AGRICULTURE  and  FISHERIES. 

"Vide 

&C.—continued. 

ACCOUNTS. 

Bill  considered,  after  Amendment, 

months," proposed and withdrawn, 402. 

"three 

BOARD  of  EDUCATION.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

Read the third time and passed, 57. 

—  Vide  BILLS. 

ZETLAND  MASONIC  SICK   and 

M E R­

B I L L. 

GLASGOW  HOSPITAL 

[I^ords].  MUSSELBURGH  GAS  ORDER 
R A I L W AY 
CALEDONIAN 

W I D O WS  and  ORPHANS  F U ND  ORDER  CONFIRMA­
TION  B I LL  
CONFIRMATION 
ORDER  CONFIRMATION  B I L L.  MUSSELBURGH  COR­
PORATION  (Extension of  Boundaries, Sfc.)  ORDER  CON­
f or  SKIN 
FIRMATION  B I L L. 
DISEASES  ORDER  CONFIRMATION  B I L L. 
CHANTS  HOUSE  of  GLASGOW  (Buchanan  and  Ewing 
Bequests)  ORDER  CONFIRMATION  B I L L. 
G R E AT 
NORTH   of  SCOTLAND  R A I L W AY  ORDER  CONFIRMA­
TION  B I L L. 
EDINBURGH  MERCHANT  COMPANY 
ENDOWMENTS  ORDER  CONFIRMATION  B I LL   [ Lords]. 
SAINT  ANDREWS  W A T ER  ORDER  CONFIRMATION 
BILI>  [Lords]. 
ARDROSSAN  HARBOUR  ORDER  CON­
FIRMATION  B I LL  
A B E R D E EN  HARBOUR 
O R D ER  CONFIRMATION  B I L L.  BUCKIE  BURGH  and 
B U C K IE  (Cluny)  HARBOUR  ORDER  CONFIRMATION 
B I L L.  C L Y D E B A NK  and  DISTRICT  W A T ER  ORDER 
HAMILTON  B U R GH  ORDER 
CONFIRMATION  B I L L. 
ROBERT  GORDON'S  T E C H­
CONFIRMATION  B I L L. 
NICAL  COLLEGE  and  ABERDEEN  ENDOWMENTS  TRUST 
ORDER  CONFIRMATION  B I L L. 
IRVINE  HARBOUR 
ORDER  CONFIRMATION  B I L L.  COLINTON  T R A M W A YS 
ORDER  CONFIRMATION  BILL   [Lords]. 

[Lords]. 

BIRTHS,  D E A T H S  ,  and  MARRIAGES .  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

BISHOPRIC  of  SHEFFIELD ; Bill  to provide for the founda­
tion of  a  Bishopric  of  Sheffield, and for other matters 
incidental thereto;  presented, and ordered  to be  read a 
second time, 19.  Motion, That the Bill  be  now read  a 
second time;  Amendment  proposed,  to leave out  words 
and  add  others,  on  Division,  not  made ;  Bill  read  a 
second time, and committed  to  a  Standing Committee, 
148.  A,  154.  Report, Fifteen  Members added  to the 
Committee  in  respect  of  the  Bill,  156.  Member dis­
charged,  another  appointed, 163, 216.  Reported  from 
the Standing Committee, with Amendments, 218.  Con­
sideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  231,  240.  Order for 
consideration,  as amended,  on future day discharged; 
another  day  appointed,  242.  Day  appointed  for con­
sideration,  as amended, 262.  Consideration,  as amended, 
deferred, 268, 272,  281,  285,  298,  308,  317,  326, 333, 
335, 340, 352, 357,362, 368, 377,384,394, 436,442,445, 
451, 463, 465, 468,470, 474 , 482,485,493, 502, 510,521, 
528, 535. 

BISHOPRICS  [Lords]  ;  Bill, intituled An Act  to  facilitate 
the foundation of  new Bishoprics  and the alteration of 
dioceses,  and  to amend the  Bishops' Resignation Act, 
1869, and for other matters incidental  thereto ; brought 
from the Lords, 65.  Read thefirst time, 198.  Second 
Reading deferred, 212, 215, 244, 281, 333. 

BLACKGAME ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Acts  relative  to  the 

BOARD  of  EDUCATION 

SCHEME  

(Cheshunt  College) 
[Lords]  ;  Bill,  intituled  An  Act  to 
CONFIRMATION 
confirm a Scheme approved and certified  by the Board 
of  Education under the  Charitable  Trusts  Act, 1853, 
relating to Cheshunt College ;  brought from the Lords, 
196.  Read thefirst time, and referred to the Examiners, 
197.  Report,  no  Standing  Orders  applicable,  210. 
Read a second  time,  and committed, 213.  Reported, 
without  Amendment  (Scheme  confirmed),  269.  Bill 
read the third time  and passed,  without  Amendment, 
273. 
College)  Confirmation  Act,  1909) Royal Assent, 380. 

(Cited  as  Board  of  Education  Scheme  (Cheshunt 

BOARD  of  T R A DE 

(Labour  Department). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

BOARD  of  T R A DE  [Salary]  ;  Motion  for  the  House to 

resolve itself into a Committee to consider of authorising 
an increase  in the salary of the President of  the Board 
of Trade, to  be  paid out  of moneys provided  by Par­
liament ;  King's  Recommendation  signified;  Question 
agreed to, 61.  Committee  on matter  deferred,  64, 66, 
71,  74.  Matter  considered  in  Committee,  79.  Reso­
lution reported, and agreed to;  Bill ordered,  81. 

BOAR D  of  T R A D  E  ;  Bill  to remove the statutory limitation 
on the salary of the President  of  the  Board  of  Trade ;
ordered  on Report of Resolution from Committee of the 
whole House ;  read thefirst time, 81.  Second Reading 
deferred, 85, 89, 93, 95,  101, 106,  110.  Motion, That 
the Bill be now read a second  time,  and  at  Eleven of 
the clock  Debate stood adjourned, 112.  Resumed, and 
Question put, pursuant to Standing  Order  (Closure of 
Debate) ;  Bill  read a second time;  Motion,  That the 
Bill be committed  to a Committee  of the whole House, 
negatived  on Division;  Bill  committed  to  a Standing 
Committee, 123.  B,  128.  Fifteen  Members added  in 
respect  of  the Bill, 129.  Member  discharged, another 
appointed in substitution, 137.  Reported from  Standing 
Committee,  with  an Amendment,  140.  Consideration, 
as amended, deferred,  153, 158, 162, 165, 171, 175,  178, 
183, 190, 208,  212,  223,  230.  Order for consideration, 
as  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee,  read;  Bill 
recommitted  to  a  Committee  of  the whole  House in 
respect  of  a  Clause;  considered  in  Committee, and 
reported, without Amendment;  day appointed  for con­
sideration,  as amended in the  Standing Committee, 233, 
234.  Consideration, as amended, deferred, 243, 246, 250, 
259, 264, 268, 272, 275, 279, 284, 288, 291, 293, 298, 308, 
316, 323,  325, 332, 335, 340,  344, 351,  357.  Bill con­
sidered,  as amended ; day appointed for  Third Reading, 
359.  Third Reading deferred, 361.  Bill read the third 
time and passed, 363.  Agreed to by the Lords, without 
Amendment, 460. 
Royal Assent, 491. 

(Cited  as Board of  Trade Act,  1909) 

killing and taking of Blackgame ; presented, and ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time,  145.  Day  appointed for BOYCOTTING  CASES  (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  

Second Reading, 169.  Second  Reading  deferred, 175,  

194, 220,231, 247,261. 


BREWERS'  LICENCES .  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

BLACKWOOD  G AS  ;  Bill read thefirst time, and  referred 

to  the Examiners,  13.  Report,  Standing Orders not BRIDGEN D  (Hope  English Baptist  Chapel,  8fc.)  C H A R I T Y; 
previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  27.  Read a  Bill  to confirm a Scheme  of  the Charity Commissioners 
for the management  of (1) the Charity consisting  of the 
second time, and committed, 33.  Reported, with Amend-
ments,  218.  Considered,  as amended,  224.  Read the  proceeds  of sale  of Hope English Baptist Chapel  in Queen 
Street, in the Township of  Bridgend,  in  the Parish  of 
third time and passed, 238.  Agreed  to  by  the Lords, 
with Amendments, 337.  Lords' Amendments agreed to,  Coity,  in  the  County  of  Glamorgan;  and  (2)  the 
346.  (Cited as Blackwood  Gas Act, 1909) Royal Assent, Charity consisting  of the Hope English Baptist Sunday 
Schoolroom  in Queen  Street  aforesaid;  presented, and 
381. 

VOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909. 

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BRIDGEND  ( Hope  English Baptist  Chapel, fyc.)  C H A R I TY 

—continued. 

ordered to  be read a second time, 70.  Second Reading 
deferred, 86, 87, 119, 131, 134, 135,147,158,165.  Read 
a second time, and committed to a Standing Committee, 
183.  B, 186.  Fifteen Members added  in respect of the 
Bill,  192.  Bill  reported,  without  Amendment,  222, 
Consideration (not amended) deferred, 230.  Considered 
(not amended), 237.  Third Reading deferred, 239, 244, 
250,  281,  298, 317,  329, 351, 377, 383, 394.  Bill read 
the third time and passed, 400.  Agreed to  by the Lords,  which the Lords agree, 286.  (Cited as Bungay  Water  

without  Amendment,  463. 
English Baptist  Chapel Scheme Confirmation  Act,  1909)  

Boyal Assent, 491. 

BUNGAY  W A T ER   [Lords]  ;  Report, That the Bill should 
originate in the  House  of Lords,  9.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with,  12. 
Brought  from  the.  Lords;  read  the first time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  122.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not previously inquired into complied with,  136. 
Bill read a second time, and committed, 150.  Reported, 
with Amendments, 218.  Considered,  as amended, 238. 
Verbal Amendment made  on Third Reading;  Bill read 
the third time and passed, with Amendments,  269.  To 

Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 381.  


BURIAL  PLACES   (Exemption  from  Rates)  (Scotland) ; 

(Cited,  as  Bridgend  Hope 

BRIDLINGTON  PIERS   and  HARBOUR.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

BRIGHTON  CASINO  and  M A R I NE  P A L A CE  

[Lords] ; 
Report, That  the  Bill  should originate in the House  of 
Lords,  9.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to have 
been complied with, 12. 

BRITISH  and  FOREIGN  T R A DE   and  INDUSTRY.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

BRITISH  MUSEUM   (Petition  for  Aid)  ;  King's  Recom­

mendation signified, 16.  Referred  to  the Committee  of 
Supply,  30.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 
SUPPLY. 

PUBLIC  PETITIONS. 

BRITISH  SHIPS   (Desertions  and  Failures  to Join).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

BRISTOL  UNIVERSITY   [Lords'] ;  Report,  That the Bill 
should  originate  in the House  of  Lords,  9.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  certified  to  have been complied with, 
12.  Brought from the Lords, 196.  Read thefirst time, 
and referred  to the Examiners, 197.  Report,  Standing 
Orders not previously inquired into complied with, 210. 
Bill read a second time, and committed, 221.  Reported, 
with  Amendments, 253.  Considered,  as amended, 265. 
Read the third time and passed, with Amendments, 275. 
To which the Lords agree, 289.  ( Cited as University of 
Bristol Act,  1909) Royal Assent, 381. 

BROADSTAIRS  and  SAINT  PETER'S  URBAN  DISTRICT 
COUNCIL  [Lords]  ;  Report, That the  Bill should  origi­
nate  in the House of Lords, 9.  Report, Standing Orders 
certified not  to have been complied with,  12. 

B U C K IE 

BURGH   and  BUCKIE 

(Cluny)  HARBOUR 
ORDER  CONFIRMATION  ;  Bill  to confirm a Provisional 
Order  under the  Private  Legislation  Procedure (Scot­
land)  Act,  1899, relating  to Buckie Burgh and Buckie 
(Cluny) Harbour;  ordered (under Section 7 of the Act) 
to be considered, 401.  Considered, 407.  Read the third 
time and passed, 411.  Agreed to  by the Lords, without 
Amendment, 440. 
( Cluny)  Harbour  Order  Confirmation  Act,  1909) Royal 
Assent, 447. 

(Cited  as  Buckie  Burgh  and  Buckie 

Bill  to amend the Rating  Exemptions (Scotland) Act, 
1874 ;  presented, and ordered  to be  read a second time, 
198.  Second  Reading  deferred,  213,  247,  254,  256, 
272.  Day appointed for Second Reading, 283.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  291.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading, 300.  Second Reading deferred, 326, 362, 394. 

B U RT  CORPORATION  ;  Bill  read  the first time,  and 
ordered  to  be read  a second  time, 13.  Read a second 
time, and committed, 23.  Reported, with Amendments, 
from the  Local  Legislation  Committee,  337.  Bill con­
sidered,  as  amended;  Standing  Orders  223  and 243 
suspended ;  Bill  read the third time and passed, 352. 
Agreed to  by the  Lords, with Amendments, 465.  Day 
appointed  for considering them, 468.  Consideration  of 
Lords'Amendments deferred, 471.  Lords' Amendments 
considered;  several  agreed to, one disagreed to;  Com­
mittee appointed to draw  up Reasons, &c.;  nominated ; 
Three quorum ;  to withdraw, 475-6.  Reason reported, 
and agreed to;  Message to the  Lords,  476.  Lords  do 
not  insist  on their  Amendment  to  which  this House 
hath  disagreed,  479. 
(Cited  as  Bury  Corporation  Act,
1909) Royal Assent, 491. 

B U S I N E SS   O F  T HE  H O U S E: 

ORDERS  relative  to  PROCEEDINGS  having  P R E­

CEDENCE   : — 

—- Proceedings on the Address to have precedence 

of all other  Orders  of  the  day  and Notices of Motion, 
&c., 12. 

That  the other  Government  Business have 

precedence this day of the Business of Supply, 80, 95. 

' That the Committee of Ways and Means have 
precedence this day  of the Business of  Supply, 132, 180. 
Proceedings  in Committee on Navy and Army 

Expenditure  to have precedence  of  the  Committee  of 
Supply, 342. 

That the Proceedings  on the Motion relating 
to the Whitsuntide  Adjournment have precedence this 
day of the Business of  Supply, 205. 

BUILDING  SOCIETIES.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

BUILDINGS  and  ENGINEERING  W O R K S;  Motion,  That 
leave  be given  to  bring  in  a  Bill  to  make better 
provision  for  the  safety  and health  of  persons em­
ployed in certain  Building  Operations and Engineering 
Works,  and  purposes  connected  therewith;  Question 
put, pursuant  to Standing Order No. 11, and agreed  to ; 
Bill ordered;  presented  accordingly,  and read the  first 
time, 32, 33.  Second Reading  deferred, 36, 39, 41, 44, 
48, 52, 59, 62, 71, 85,  100, 105, 110, 113, 116, 118, 123, 
127,  130,  133,  138,  141,  144,  146,  154,  171,  190, 208, 
212,  215,  216,  224,  243,  260,  280, 284,  297, 315, 323, 
325, 332, 350, 359, 367, 383.  Bill withdrawn, 398. 

— 

—  That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Finance  Bill 
have precedence this day of the Business of Supply, 219. 

Order, That  on  this  day,  notwithstanding 

anything in Standing Order No. 15, Business other than 
Business  of Supply may  be taken before Eleven  of the 
clock, 347. 

EXEMPTION 

from  STANDING  ORDER   No.  1 

(SITTINGS   of  the  H O U S E)   : — 

Reports  of  Money Committees,  32 (on Divi­

sion).  Supply,  70  (on  Division),  236  (on Division). 

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I N D EX  to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME. 

6 1  3  . 

BUSINESS   OF  THE  HOUSE—continued. 

EXEMPTION 

from 

STANDING  ORDER  NO. 

1 

(SITTINGS   of  the  H O U S E ) —  c o n t i n u e d. 

Army (Annual) [Compensation] Committee, 95.  Indian 
Councils  Bill  [LordsJ,  109.  Ways  and  Means,  132, 
137  (on  Division),  141  (on  Division),  151  (on  Divi­
sion),  156  (on  Division),  169  (on  Division),  174, 180. 
Trawling  in Prohibited  Areas  (Prevention)  Bill,  233. 
Business of the House (Procedure),  337  (on Division). 
Irish Land Bill (Allocation  of Time), 226 (on Division). 
Labour  Exchanges Bill,  342  (on Division).  Navy and 
Army Expenditure, 1907-8 (Report), 353.  Finance  Bill 
(Committee),  Proceedings  on Clause  14, 378  (on Divi­
sion).  South Africa Bill (Committee), 392. 

(Friday Sitting, Consolidated Fund (No. 2) Bill)  : —  ­
Proceedings  not  to  be interrupted  at Five 

nor half-past Five of the clock, and may  be entered upon 
at any hour, though opposed, 80. 
(Government Business) : — 

Motion, That, for the remainder of the  Session, 

Government  Business  be  not  interrupted  under the 
provisions of any Standing Order regulating the  Sittings 
of the  House,  and may be entered  upon  at any hour, 
though opposed, and have precedence at every Sitting; 
that, at the conclusion  of Government Business each day, 
Mr. Speaker  do adjourn the House without Question put; 
that  on Fridays the House, unless it otherwise resolves, 
shall  at its rising  stand adjourned  until  the following 
Monday ;  and that no Motions  be made  to bring in  Bills 
under Standing Order No.  11  ;  and Question,  on Divi­
sion, agreed to, 395. 

PROCEEDINGS,  if under discussion when  BUSINESS  is 

postponed,  be resumed  and proceeded with,  though 
opposed, after the interruption  of  BUSINESS   : — 

Supply 38 (on Division), 46, 50 (on  Division), 
73  (on  Division),  271  (on Division).  Housing,  Town 
Planning, &c. Bill,  99 (on Division).  Ways and  Means, 
160 (on Division). 

the Caledonian Railway ;  presented, and ordered (under 
Section 7  of the Act)  to  be considered, 194.  Considered, 
206.  Read the third time and passed, 209.  Agreed  to 
by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  270.  (Cited as 
Caledonian  Railway  Order  Confirmation  Act,  1909) 
Royal Assent, 380. 

CANALS  and  W A T E R W A YS  ( Royal  Commission).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

C A PE  of  GOOD  HOPE  OBSERVATORY.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

CAPITAL  (Foreign Investment); Motion, That, in the opinion 
of  this  House,  the  feeling  of  insecurity,  due  to the 
policy  of  His  Majesty's  Government,  to  the  unfair 
competition  of foreign  producers  in  British markets, 
and  to the high tariffs  of  foreign  countries,  has caused 
capital  to  be  employed  abroad which might have  been 
used  at home  to the great advantage of the wage-earning 
population  of  the  country;  Amendment  proposed, to 
leave out words and add others, and, on Division, agreed 
to ;  words added ;  Main Question, so amended, proposed, 
and  it  being after  Eleven,  Mr.  Speaker  proceeds to 
interrupt  the  Business;  Closure  claimed,  but assent 
withheld;  Debate adjourned ;  no dayfixed for  resump­
tion, 63. 

CARDIFF  CORPORATION  ;  Bill  read  the first time, and 
ordered  to  be read a second time, 13.  Read a second 
time,  and  committed,  23.  Instruction  to  the  Com­
mittee,  67.  Reported (pursuant  to  Instruction),  with 
Amendments,  from  the  Local  Legislation  Committee 
(Section B), 233.  Considered, as amended, 248.  Read 
the  third  time  and passed,  256,  Agreed  to  by  the 
Lords,  with  Amendments,  500.  Lords' Amendments, 
pursuant  to Order,  agreed to, 502.  (Cited  as  Cardiff 
Corporation  Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 540. 

CENSUS  of  PRODUCTION,  1907.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

Time)  :— 

(Allocation  of Time for Bills) :— 

Housing,  Town Planning, &c.  Bill  (Allocation  of 

CENTRAL  LONDON  R A I L W AY   ;  Bill  read thefirst time, 
and referred  to the  Examiners,  13.  Report  from the 
Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  on Petition for 
dispensing with Standing Order 128, That the Standing 
Order ought  to  be  dispensed  with,  34.  Examiners 
report  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired into 
Motion,  That the Committee stage  (including 
complied with, 66.  Day appointed for Second Reading, 
any Motion for  an Instruction), Report stage, and Third 
75.  Second Reading deferred, 79.  Read a second time, 
Reading  of the Housing, Town Planning, &c.  Bill shall 
and committed,  93.  Reported, with Amendments, 180. 
be proceeded with  in the following manner, and  Question  Considered,  as amended, 191.  Day appointed for Third 
agreed to, after Amendment made ;  Order, &c., 226-7. 
Reading, 205.  King's Consent signified ;  Bill  read  the 
third time and passed, 208.  Agreed  to  by the Lords, 
with  Amendments,  334.  Lords'  Amendments agreed 
to,  344. 
Royal Assent, 381. 

Motion, That the Committee stage (including 

Irish Land Bill (Allocation  of Time) :— 

( Cited  as  Central  London Railway Act,  1909) 

—	 

any Motion for  an Instruction), Report stage, and Third 
Reading of the Irish Land Bill, and the necessary stages 
of  the  Financial  Resolution  relating  thereto,  shall  be 
proceeded with  in the following manner ;  and  Question 
agreed to  on Division, after Amendment  made ; Order, 
&c., 228-9. 

BUSINESS  of  the  HOUSE

and by Private Members).

( Days  occupied by  Government 
  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

BUSINESS  of  the  HOUSE
STANDING  ORDERS  NO.
Vide  HOUSE. 

STANDING  ORDERS. 

(Procedure),  AMENDMENTS  to 
  2 6,  N o.  2 7,  N o.  8 1,  2 3 8 - 2 4 0. 

9  Edw. VII.  Pari.  28.  Sess.  4.  1909. 

C H A I R M AN   O F  W A YS  A ND  M E A NS  : 

MR. EMMOTT : 

Reports  list  of  Bills  (Private)  to  originate in 

the House of Lords, 9. 

Reports Private Bills,  65.  With Amendments, 

53. 

——	 

Reports Bill (Public), without Amendment, 83. 
Reports  as  to  Bills  under  the  Private  Bill 
Procedure (Scotland) Act, 1899, which should originate 
in the House of Lords, 30. 

C A L E D O N I AN   C A N A L,  VIDE  ACCOUNTS. 
CALEDONIAN  R A I L W AY  ORDER  CONFIRMATION;   Bill 

to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Private 
Legislation Procedure (Scotland) Act, 1899, relating  to 

Puts  the  Question  in  Committee  of  Supply 
(at Ten  of the clock)  necessary to dispose of  the  Vote 
under consideration, pursuant  to Standing Order No. 15, 
347.  At Eleven of the clock (Vote  on Account), 55. 

VOL. 164. 

Sess. 1909. 

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to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME. 

[1909. 

C H A I R M AN   OF   W A YS   A ND   MEANS—continued. 

MR.  E M MO   TT—continued: 

• 
Proceeds  to  put  severally  the  Questions  on  out-
standing  Votes,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  No.  15, 347. 

Puts 

forthwith 

the.  Questions  necessary 

to 
dispose  of  the  Business  to  be  concluded  at  this  day's 
Sitting,  410.  Puts  forthwith  the  Questions  necessary  to 
dispose  of  Clauses  to  be  concluded  at  this  day's  Sitting, 
408. 

Reports  Resolutions  to  the  House,  33,  38.  Of 

Supply,  50.  Ways  and  Means,  157. 

Rules  Amendment  already  under  consideration 

in  Committee  on  Finance  Bill  out  of  order,  473. 

Reports  Progress  in  Supply,  33. 

In  Ways  and 

Means,  157. 

Puts  the  Question,  That  the  Chairman  do  report 
(Closure  of 
to  Standing  Order 

Progress 
Debate)  ),  152  (Ways  and  Means). 

(pursuant 

Puts  Questions  forthwith, pursuant  to  the  Order 
of  the  House,  292,  328,  345,  398,  399,  402,  404,  405, 
410,  412,  413,  415,  416. 

•—  Puts  forthwith  the  Question  on  the  Amendment 
already  proposed  from the Chair,  292, 398,  399,  404,412. 

to  put 

Proceeds  successively 

forthwith  the 
Question  on  an  Amendment  moved  by  the  Government, 
&c.,  and  the  Questions  necessary  to  dispose  of  a  Clause 
or  Clauses,  or  of  the  Business  to  be  concluded  at  this 
day's  Sitting,  292,  398,  399,  402,  404,  405,  410,  412, 
413,415,416. 

Takes  the  Chair  as  Deputy  Speaker 

Speaker's  indisposition),  39,  42,  43,  45,  49. 
times),  388,  398,  401,  404, 434,  437,  472. 

(Mr. 
( At   other 

Takes  the  Chair  at  the  request  of  Mr.  Speaker, 

407,  474. 

Puts  Questions,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order 

(Closure  of  Debate),  38,  59,  70,  &c. 

to 
Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  152,  267,  305,  &c. 

to  put  the  Question,  pursuant 

Declines 

—— 

Declines 

to  propose  the  Question  (abuse  of 
Rules),  33,  162,  207,  279,  305,314,  331,407,  458,  459 
(twice), 

Puts  Question  forthwith  (abuse  of  Rules),  295. 

Withholds  his  assent  to  Closure,  and  gives  a 

Reason,  274,  303. 

Calls  attention  of  the  Committee  to  the  dis-
orderly  conduct  of  a  Member,  and  orders  him  to  with-
draw,  304. 

(Entry  expunged  from  the  Journal),  311. 

Directs  Member 
(tedious  repetition),  267. 

to  discontinue  his 

speech 

; 

Leaves  the  Chair,  objection  taken  to  further 

proceeding,  89,  127. 

Leaves  the  Chair  at  Eleven  (Supply),  33,  127, 

146,  164,331. 

Leaves  the  Chair  to  report  the  Bill,  pursuant  to 

Order  of  the  House,  410,  416. 

Leaves  the  Chair,  the  Questions  necessary  to 
dispose  of  the  Business,  pursuant  to  Order,  being  con-
cluded,  328. 

Informs  the  House  as  to  attendance  of  Witness 
before  a  Committee  on  Group  of  Railway  Bills,  137, 
151. 

Unavoidable  absence  from  the  Sitting  of  the 

Committee,  221,  277. 

Chair  empowered  to  select Amendments,  365-6, 

D E P U TY   C H A I R M AN   (MR.  C A L D W E L L ): 

71,  335,  &c. 

Reports  Resolutions  (Supply;  to  the  House,  50, 
( W a ys   and  Means),  144,  153,  253,  &c. 

Reports  Progress  in  Committee  on  matter,  89, 

454. 

Reports  a  Bill  (Public),  with  Amendments,  and 

an  amended  Title,  221. 

Reports  Bills  from  Committees,  with  Amend-

ments,  and  without  Amendment,  270. 

Members nominated  by Mr.  Speaker  as  temporary 

.Chairmen,  30. 

C H A I R M E N 'S   P A N EL  

:— 

—  Eight  Members  selected  to  serve  on  the  Chair-

men's  Panel,  under  Standing  Order  No.  47,  28. 

Report  from  the  Chairmen's  Panel  of  appoint-
ment  of  Members  as  Chairmen  of  Standing  Committees; 
A,   37,  B,  73,  C,  94,  and  Scottish  Standing  Committee, 
37. 

Report,  That  any  Member  of  the  Chairmen's 
Panel  is  empowered  to  ask  any  other  Member  to  take 
his  place  in  case  of  necessity,  37.  Member  discharged, 
another  appointed,  73. 

C H A M B ER   of   L O N D O N.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

C H A R I T A B LE   D O N A T I O NS  

a nd   BEQUESTS 

(Ireland). 

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

CHARITABLE  TRUSTS ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Charitable 
Trusts  Acts,  1853  to  189-i;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be 
read  a  second  time,  58.  Day  appointed 
for  Second 
Reading,  117,  124.  Second  Reading  deferred,  154,  190, 
212,  244,  281.  . 

CHARITY  COMMISSION 

(England  and  Wales). 

Vide 

A C C O U N T S. 

CHEAP  TRAINS ;  Bill  to  amend the  Law  relating  to  Cheap 
Trains  for  the  Working  Classes;  presented,  and  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time,  28.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
55,  66,  81,  83,  95,  116,  128,  133,  139,  147,.154,  159,  171, 
176,  179,  183,  194. 201,  231,  237,  240,  244, 247, 251,  254, 
256.  261,  265,  268,  273,  282.  291,  299,  308,  317,  327, 
333,  335,  352,  357,  362,  368,  377.  Bill  read  a  second 
time,  and  committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  384. 
A,   388.. 

CHECKWEIGHING 

in 

various 

INDUSTRIES  ; 

to 
provide  for  checking  the  weight  or  measurement  of 
materials  produced,  handled,  or  gotten  by  workmen  paid 
by  weight  or  measure  in  certain  Industries;  presented, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  137.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  146,  154,  171,  190,  208,  212,  214,216, 
219,  224,  243,  260,  280,  297,  316,  332,  350,  367,  377, 
383.  Bill  withdrawn,  398. 

Bill 

CHELSEA  HOSPITAL 

(Army  Prize  Money  and  Legacy 

Funds).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

369,  372,  376,  379,  385,  386. 

C H I L D R EN   A C T,   1 9 0 8.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

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. 6 15 

C H I L D R EN   ^Reports  of  Trials) 

;  Bill  to  amend  the  Law 
with  regard  to  the  Reports  of  Trials  in  which  Children 
and  young  persons  are  concerned,  and  for  other  purposes 
connected  therewith  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time,  313. 

[Lords] 

CHILD  MURDER  (Trial) 

;  Bill  intituled  An 
A ct   providing  that  a  woman  charged  with  the  murder  of 
her 
infant  Child  may,  under  certain  conditions,  be 
convicted  of  manslaughter;  brought  from  the  Lords, 
Second  Reading 
289.  Read 
deferred,  350,  359,  367,  376,  383,  397,  400,  403,  407, 
409,  410,  414,  417,  425,  432,  436,  442,  445,  451,  462, 
465,  467,  470.  Bill  withdrawn,  474. 

time,  342. 

first 

the 

C I V IL  

D E P A R T M E N T S, 
1909-10  (Vote  on  Account).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  SUPPLY. 

R E V E N UE  

S E R V I C ES  

a nd  

C I V IL  

S E R V I C ES  

a nd  

R E V E N UE  

D E P A R T M E N TS 

(Excesses,  1907-8).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  SUPPLY. 

C I V IL  

S E R V I C ES  

D E P A R T M E N TS 
(Supplementary  Estimates,  1908-9).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 
S U P P L Y. 

R E V E N UE  

a nd  

CIVIL  SERVICES  (Supplementary  Estimates,  1909-10). 

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

CIVIL  SERVICES 
V i de   A C C O U N T S.  

(Supplementary  Estimates, 

1908-9). 

S U P P L Y. 

C H I NA  

(NO.  1,  1 9 0 9 ).   Y i de   A C C O U N T S. 

C H U R CH   E S T A T ES   COMMISSION.  V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

CLABE  COUNTY 
E L E C T I O N S. 

CLAUSES: 

(West  Clure  Division)  WRIT.  Vide 

CHURCH  TEMPORALITIES  (Ireland). 

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

That  Clause  1  be  postponed,  negatived  on 

CINEMATOGRAPH ;  Bill  to  make  better  provision 

for 
securing  safety at  Cinematograph  and other  Exhibitions; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  88. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  95,  97,  101,111,113.  Motion, 
That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  t i m e;   Closure 
claimed,  but  assent  withheld,  and  further  proceeding 
postponed  at  8.15,  116.  Resumed;  and  it  being  after 
further  proceeding, 
Eleven,  and  objection  taken  to 
Debate  stood  adjourned,  116-7. 
Further  adjourned, 
123,  127,  130,  133,  138,  141,  144,  154,  171,  175,  178, 
183,  190,  208,  212,  215,  216,  219,  224,  243,  246,  250, 
259,  264,  268,  272,  275,  279,  284,  288,  297,  315,  323, 
325,  332,  350,  359,  367,  377,  383,  397,  400.  Adjourned 
Debate  resumed;  Bill  read  a  second  time;  Bill  com-
mitted  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  403.  Con-
sidered  in  Committee;  Chairman  declines  to  propose 
Question  (abuse  of  Rules)  ;  and  reported,  406.  Con-
sideration,  as amended,  deferred,  408,  413.  Considered, 
as  amended;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  417, 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  504.  Day 
appointed  for  considering 
them;  to  be  printed,  505. 
Consideration  of  Lords'  Amendments  deferred,  512,  521, 
526,  527.  Lords'  Amendments  considered,  and  agreed 
(Cited  as  Cinematograph  Act,  1909)  Royal 
to.  528. 
Assent,  539. 

Bill  read  the 

CITY  of  LONDON  (Street   Traffic); 

first 
time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  13.  Read 
Reported,  with 
a  second  time,  and  committed,  23. 
Amendments,  from  Local  Legislation  Committee 
( S e c-
tion  B ),   145.  Considered,  as  amended,  159.  Read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  168.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords, 
with  Amendments,  322.  Lords'  Amendments  agreed  to, 
(Street  Traffic)  Act, 
330. 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited  as  City  of  London 

CIVIL  B I LL   COURTS  (D u b l i n );   B i ll   to  improve  the  p r o-
cedure and  make better provision for  the discharge  of  the 
business  of  the  Civil  Bill  Courts  of  the  City  and  County 
of  Dublin;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  216.  Second  Reading  deferred,  237,  250. 

C I V IL   CONTINGENCIES  F U N D,   1 9 0 8 - 9.   V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

C I V IL   L I ST   P E N S I O N S.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

C I V IL   SERVANTS 

(Retirement 

at  the  Age  of 

Sixty-Jive). 

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

C I V IL   S E R V I CE   COMMISSION. 

V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

C I V IL  

S E R V I C ES  
a nd  
(Appropriation  Accounts). 

R E V E N UE  
D E P A R T M E N TS 
Vide  ACCOUNTS.  SUPPLY. 

C I V IL  

S E R V I C ES  

and 

R E V E N UE  

E S T I M A T E S,   1 9 0 9 - 1 0.  

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

D E P A R T M E N TS 
S U P P L Y. 

Division,  242,  419. 

That  a  Clause  stand  part,  on  Division,  agreed 

to,  103,  104,  388. 

Clause  agreed  to,  394. 

! 

— Clause  amended,  and  agreed  to,  109. 

Clause  disagreed  to,  394, 

That  a  Clause  stand  part,  and  Committee 

report  Progress,  296. 

That  a  Clause,  as  amended,  stand  part,  419. 

That  a  Clause be  read  a  second  time  ;  Motion 

and  Clause  withdrawn,  105,  433. 

That  a  Clause  be  read  a  second  time,  nega-

tived  on  Division,  255,  487,  &c. 

Clause  read  the first time  ;  Motion,  That  the 
Clause  be  read  a  second  time,  agreed  to  on  Division; 
Clause  added,  110. 

Clause  brought  up  ;  read  the  first  and  second 

time,  and  added,  221. 

-  Clause  twice  read,  and  made  part  of  a  Bill, 

221. 

Clauses  added,  416,  444  (on  Division). 

Further  consideration  of  proposed  Clause,  as 

amended,  adjourned,  442. 

Clause  read 

the 

first  and  second 

time, 

amended,  and  added,  464. 

Clause  read 

time  ; 
the 
Motion,  That  the  Clause  be  added  to  the  B i l l;   Debate 
adjourned,  394, 

first  and  second 

-  Postponed  Clause  agreed 

to  on  Division, 

462. 

Clause  read  a  second  time  on  a  previous  day, 

added  to  the  Bill  on  subsequent  day,  397. 

Clause  read  a  second  time  and  amended  on 
a  previous  day,  further  considered  and  made  part  of  the 
Bill  on  subsequent  day,  443. 

Questions  necessary  to  dispose  of  Clauses  put 

forthwith,  398. 

Clause  inserted  on  consideration  of  Lords 
Amendments,  as  a  consequential  Amendment  to  the 
Bill,  525  (on  Division). 

Private  Bills  :—Clauses  struck  out,  pursuant 

to  Resolution,  177. 

—  Clauses  struck  out,  pursuant  to  Instruction, 

409. 

CLERGY  (West  Indies).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

VOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909. 

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C L E RK   O F  T HE  C R O W N: 

new AYrits, 3, 17, 18, 24. 

To  make out 

M A IN  Q U E S T I ON   claimed: 
The Prime Minister, 29.  Mr. Dobson, 42. 

C L E RK   OF  T HE  C R O WN   I N 

I R E­

L A ND  : 

Letter  to Mr. 
Speaker relating to the Imprisonment of a Member,  3. 

C L E RK   OF  T HE  H O U SE 

-  To  direct  the 

printing  of  the  Journal,  4. 

QUESTIO N  on Amendment to Main Question claimed  :— 
The Prime Minister, 22. 

QUESTION S  declined  to  be put (Closure  of  Debate)  by 

Mr. Speaker or Mr. Deputy Speaker:— 

Mr. Pirie, 30. 
Mr. Dobson, 42. 
Mr. Russell Rea, 64. 
Mr. Chiozza Money (twice), 

Informs the House 

Mr. Clough, 116. 
Mr. Frederick Edwin Smith, 

78. 

116. 

Mr. Jowett, 116.  

Mr. Seaverns, 143. 

Dr. Shipman, 149. 

Sir Alfred Thomas, 272.  

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Ex­

chequer, 438. 

Of  the unavoid-

As  it  appeared  to  him  the  House  was 
prepared  to  come  to  a  decision  without that Motion, 

of the unavoidable  absence  of  Mr.  Speaker, 388, 398, 
401, 404, 434, 437, 472.  Through indisposition, 39, 42, 
43, 45, 49. 

able absence of the Chairman  of Ways and Means, 221,277. 272. 

To carry Bills  to 
the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  98.  With  Amend­
ment  or Amendments, 293, 379, &c. 

To  carry  M es-

sages to the Lords, 72, 273 (Joint Committee). 

sages  to  the  Lords  communicating  Reasons  for dis­
agreeing to Lords' Amendments, 523, 526. 

To  carry  Mes­

A3  he thought  the  House  was prepared  to 

come  to  a  decision  very  soon  without  that  Motion, 
438. 

QUESTIONS  put, pursuant  to Standing  Order (Closure  of 
Debate),  by the Chairman in  Committee  of  the whole 
House :— 

To carry Minutes 

(twice). 

Mr.  M'Kenna,  70,  71 

of Evidence  on Divorce Bills to the Lords, 90. 

Mr. Chancellor  of the Ex­

Lays Papers upon 

the Table, 8, 44, &c. 

C L E R KS  of the  P E A CE  and  C O U N TY  .COUNCILS   ;  Bill  to 

chequer,  38,  143,  152, 
160,169, 170, 242 (twice), 
246,  249  (three  times), 
258,  263  (twice),  267 
amend the Law with regard  to the appointment of Clerks  (four times), 278-9 (seven 
of  the  Peace  and  County  Councils;  presented,  and  times), 295-6 (twice), 300, 
ordered to be read a second time, 26.  Second  Reading  304-5  (five  times),  314 
(four 
times),  319-21 
deferred, 51, 66, 85.  Day appointed for Second Reading, 
(three times), 365  (twice), 
143.  Second Reading deferred, 147, 161, 178. 
372,  374,  385,  424, 435, 
454, 455-7  (three times), 
459. 

Mr.  Secretary  Haldane, 
104,  315,  319-21  (three 
times), 365, 371,372, 375, 
435. 

Mr. Attorney General, 258, 
364,  371,  372,  386,  461, 
464. 

The  Prime  Minister,  59, 

153, 369, 426, 427. 

Mr. Markham, 385. 
Mr. Myer, 427. 
Mr. Arthur Henderson, 392. 
Mr. Sydney Buxton, 447. 
Mr.  Herbert  Samuel,  422 
(three  times),  426,  430, 
475. 

C L E V E D ON  W A T ER  

CLERKS   of  t he  P E A CE  and  C O U N TY  COUNCILS  (NO.  2 ); 
Bill  to  amend the  Law  with regard  to  the appoint­
ment  of  Clerks  of  the  Peace and County Councils; 
presented, and ordered  to be read a second time,  132. 
[ Lords];   Report,  That  the  Bill 
should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords, 9.  Report, 
Standing Orders certified  to have  been complied with, 
12.  Bill  brought from  the Lords,  90.  Read the  first 
time, and referred to the Examiners, 91.  Report, Stand­
ing Orders not previously inquired into complied with, 
97.  Bill read a second time, and committed, 107.  Re­
ported, with Amendments, 180.  Considered,  as amended; 
an Amendment  made, 215.  Read  the  third time and 
passed, with  Amendments, 221.  To  which the Lords 
agree, 258. 
(Cited  as Clevedon  Water  Act,  1909) Royal 
Assent, 381. 

C L O S U RE   O F  D E B A T E: 
QUESTION S  put, pursuant  to Standing Order  (Closure  of 
Debate), by Mr. Speaker  or Mr. Deputy Speaker  :— 

The Prime Minister, 22, 29, 

41, 123. 
Mr. Pirie, 30. 
Mr. Dobson, 42. 
Mr. Sydney Buxton, 51. 
Mr. M'Kenna, 63. 
Mr. Howard, 68. 
Mr. Joseph Pease, 78. 
Mr. Charles Roberts, 96. 
Mr. Burns, 100. 
Mr. Higham, 161. 
Mr. William Redmond, 166. 
Mr. Ginnell, 185. 

Mr. Harcourt, 209. 
Sir Frederick Banbury, 253. 
Sir Thomas Whittaker, 255, 

256. 

Mr. Munro Ferguson (Ques­

tion  not  decided 
in 
the Affirmative ;  not sup­
ported  by  majority  pre­
scribed  by  Standing 
Order No. 27)^273. 
Mr. Chancellor  of  the Ex­

chequer, 384, 424. 

Sir Edward Carson, 161. 
The Lord Advocate, 296. 

M A IN  QUESTION   claimed  :— 

Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer, 170. 

O R I G I N AL  QUESTION  claimed 
Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Ex- The Prime Minister, 59. 

chequer, 38. 

M A IN  QUESTION   claimed  :— 

Mr. Attorney General, 386. 

That the  words  of  a  Clause  to  the end  of 

certain page and line stand  part of  the Clause  be  now 
put,  267,  304-5,  314,  315,  372  (Mr.  Chancellor of the 
Exchequer). 

QUESTION S  declined to  be put (Closure of Debate)  by the 

Chairman  in Committee of the whole House :— 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the Ex­

chequer, 152, 278, 304-5. 

Mr. Beaumont, 365.  

Mr. Attorney General, 303, 


Mr. Clough, 267. 
Mr. Ridsdaie, 267. 
Mr. Churchill, 274. 
Mr. Morrell, 365. 
Mr. Secretary Haldane, 320,  Mr. Robert Pearce, 459. 

Mr. Edmund Lamb, 426. 
Mr. Watt, 440. 
Mr. Collins, 448. 

369, 375. 

372, 375. 

Mr. Herbert Samuel, 474. 
Chairman withholds his assent, as it appeared 
to  him  the  Committee  were  prepared  to  come  to a 
decision without that Motion, 274, 303, 320. 

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—	 

As  he thought the Committee was prepared 
almost immediately to come  to  a decision without that 
Motion, 369. 

(Cited  as  Collooney,  Ballina,  and  Belmullet  Railways 
and Piers Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 382. 

COLONIAL 

FORTIFICATIONS  

ACT, 

1877.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

MEMBE R  claims to move, That the Chair  be empowered  to 

select Amendments to  be proposed  :— 

COLONIAL  IMPORT  D U T I E S,  1909.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

Mr.  Chancellor  of  the  Ex-  Mr. Secretary Haldane, 376. 
chequer, 365 (three times),  Mr. Attorney General, 386, 
372,379,385. 

369. 

CLOSURE  of  D E B A TE  (Standing  Order  No.  26).  Vide. 

ACCOUNTS.  CLOSURE. 

CLYDEBANK  and  DISTRICT  W A T ER  ORDER  CONFIRMA­

TION  ;  Bill  to  confirm a Provisional  Order under the 
Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, 
relating to the Clydebank and District Water; presented, 
and ordered  (under  Section  7  of  the Act)  to be con­
sidered,  428.  Considered,  433.  Bill  read  the  third 
time and passed, 434.  Agreed to by the Lords, without 
Amendment,  443. 
(Cited  as  Clydebank  and  District 
Water  Order  Confirmation Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
447. 

COLONIAL  N A V AL  DEFENCE   ;  Bill  to amend the Colonial 
Naval Defence Act, 1865 ;  presented, and ordered to be 
read  a  second  time,  384.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
400, 403.  Read a second time;  Bill  committed  to a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House,  406.  Considered  in 
Committee, and reported, without Amendment; read the 
third time and passed, 408.  Agreed  to  by the Lords, 
without  Amendment,  468. 
( Cited  as  Colonial  Naval 
Defence Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 491. 

COLONIAL  REPORTS.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COLONIAL  STATISTICS.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COMBINATIONS 

in  the  M E AT  TRADE  

(Departmental

Committee).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COMMERCIAL 

INTELLIGENCE  COMMITTEE  

(Report).

CLYDE,  JAMES   AVON,  Esquire,  K.C.  Vide  MEMBERS. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COAL  EXPORTS,   &C.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COMMITTALS  (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COAL  M I N ES   (Checkweighers) ;  Bill  to  amend  the Coal 
Mines  Regulation  Acts;  presented,  and  ordered  to 
be read a second time, 18.  Motion, That the Bill be 
now read a second  time;  Amendment proposed,  "six 
months,"  on Division, not made; Bill read a second time, 
and committed  to a Standing  Committee, 148.  A, 154. 
Report, Fifteen  Members  added  to  the  Committee  in 
respect  of  the Bill,  156.  Member  discharged, another 
appointed,  185.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  187. 
Consideration,  as amended, deferred, 194, 201, 215.  Day 
appointed for consideration,  as amended, 233.  Considera­
tion,  as amended, deferred,  246,  264,  285,  288.  Day 
appointed for consideration,  as amended, 300.  Considera­
tion, as amended, deferred, 377. 

» 

C O AL  M I N ES 

REGULATION 

A C T, 

1 9 0 8.   Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

C O AL  MINES"  R E G U L A T I O N;   Bill  to  amend  the  Coal 
Mines Regulation  Act, 1908,  as respects reckoning the 
period  of twenty-four  hours therein referred  to ;  pre­
sented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  392. 
Second Reading deferred, 400, 403, 407, 408, 425, 432, 
437,451,462,474,493,502,521,  527,535. 

COAST  EROSION  and  AFFORESTATION 

(  R o y al 

Com­

mission).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COLINTON  T R A M W A YS  ORDER  CONFIRMATION  [  L o r d s]  ; 

COMMITTEES: 

COMMITTEES  OF  THE  WHOLE  HOUSE:— 
Army (Annual)  [Compensation]; Committee 
to  consider;  King's  Recommendation  signified,  82. 
Committee  on  matter  deferred,  83,  85.  Matter con­
sidered  in  Committee,  and  objection  taken  to further 
proceeding;  Chairman leaves  the  Chair,  89.  Matter 
again  considered  in  Committee;  Motion for Progress 
agreed to, 91.  Proceedings  in Committee not  to be inter­
rupted under  Standing Order (Sittings of the House), 
95.  Matter  considered  in  Committee,  95.  Resolution 
reported, and agreed tp, 100. 

Board  of  Trade  [Salary];  Committee  to 
consider;  King's  Recommendation signified, 61.  Com­
mittee  on  matter  deferred,  64,  66,  71,  74.  Matter 
considered  in  Committee, 79.  Resolution reported, and 
agreed to ;  Bill ordered on Report of Resolution, 81. 

—  ——  Customs and Inland Revenue [Stamp Duties, 
&c.];  Committee  to consider;  King's Recommendation 
signified, 369.  Committee deferred, 376.  Matter con­
sidered  in  Committee,  382.  Resolution  reported, and 
agreed to, 393. 

—	 

Development  and  Road Improvement Funds 

[Money];  Committee to consider; King's Recommenda­
tion signified, 418.  Matter considered  in Committee; 
Amendments  proposed,  withdrawn  and  negatived  on 
Division ;  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order 
(Closure of Debate), and agreed to, 424. 

Bill,  intituled  An  Act  to confirm a Provisional Order 
under  the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland) 
Act,  1899,  relating  to  Colinton  Tramways;  brought 
from the Lords, and ordered (under Section 9 of the Act) 
to  be read a second time, 479.  Second Reading deferred, for Committee, 345.  Motion, That Mr. Speaker  do now 
482.  Bill read a  second time, 486.  Considered,  490. 
leave the Chair;  Amendment proposed, and not made; 
Read the  third  time and  passed, without Amendment,  matter considered  in Committee;  no Report, 361. 
498. 
Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 539. 

(Cited  as  Colinton  Tramways Order  Confirmation 

East India [Revenue Accounts] ; day appointed 

COLLOONEY,  B A L L I N A,  and  BELMULLET  R A I L W A YS 

and  PIERS ;  Bill  read thefirst time,  and  referred to 
the  Examiners,  13.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not  Report  of  Resolutions [22nd  September] deferred, 457, 
previously  inquired  into  complied with,  20.  Read a  Matter considered  in Committee [23rd September] ;  one ~ 
second  time,  and  committed,  31.  Bill  reported, with  Resolution  withdrawn,  remaining  Resolutions  to  be 
Amendments, 307.  Considered, as amended; Standing 
Orders suspended ;  Bill  read the third time and  passed,  First  Resolution read  a second time, and agreed  to  on 
311.  Agreed to by the Lords, without Amendment, 361.  Division;  Second Resolution agreed to, 458.  Resolutions 

reported, 457.  Resolutions [22nd September] reported; 

Finance  [Consolidated  Fund] ;  Committee 
to  consider;  King's  Recommendation  signified, 418. 
Committee  deferred, 425,  432,  436,  442,  448.  Matter 
considered in Committee; one Resolution withdrawn, 454, 

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COMMITTE ES—continued. 

COMMITTEES  OF  THE WHOLE HOUSE—cont. 
[23rd September] agreed to, 458.  Matter considered in 
Committee  [27th  September],  461.  Resolution  [27th 
September] agreed to, 463. 

——  —  Finance 

(Consolidated  Fund) 

[Expenses]; 
to  consider;  King's  Recommendation 

Committee 
signified, 342.  Committee deferred, 345, 351, 357, 359, 
367.  Matter  considered  in  Committee, 370.  Report 
deferred, 374.  Resolution reported;  Motion, That this 
House doth agree with the Committee  in the Resolution, 
and Question put, pursuant  to Standing Order (Closure), 
and agreed to, 384. 

Fisheries  (Ireland)  [Expenses] ;  Committee 
to  consider;  King's  Recommendation  signified,  404. 
Matter  considered  in  Committee,  408.  Resolution 
reported, and agreed to, 410. 

Irish  Land  [Advance,  &c.];  Committee  to 

consider ;  King's  Recommendation  signified,  96.  Com­
mittee  on  matter  deferred, 101,  105,  110,  113,  116,  119, 
124, 128, 130, 133,138, 153, 158,171, 190,211, 223, 243, 
259, 280.  Matter considered  in Committee, and Question 
put  forthwith,  pursuant  to  Order  of  the  House,  and 
agreed  to, 293.  Report  deferred, 298,  308, 317.  Reso­
lution  reported,  and  agreed  to,  after  Amendments 
proposed  and not made, 328. 

——  Labour  Exchanges  [Salaries] ;  Committee  to 
consider;  King's Recommendation signified, 235.  Com­
mittee deferred, 242, 246, 250, 254, 259,  264, 268, 272. 
Matter considered  in Committee;  Amendment proposed, 
to add words;  Closure claimed, assent withheld; Amend­
ment withdrawn;  Main  Question  put,  and  agreed to, 
274.  Report  deferred,  279.  Resolution reported, and  

agreed to, 284.  


Merchandise  Marks  (Ireland)  [Expenses] ; 


Committee  to consider ;  King's Recommendation signi­
fied,  401.  Matter  considered  in  Committee,  406.  

Resolution reported, and agreed to, 408.  


^——  Navy and Army Expenditure, 1907-8 ; Reso­
lution for the House to resolve itself  into  a Committee  

to  consider, &c., 333.  Committee  deferred, 335, 340.  

Proceedings  in  Committee  to have precedence  of the  

Committee  of  Supply, 342.  Considered  in Committee,  

342.  Report  deferred, 345,  351.  Proceedings not  to  

be interrupted under  Standing Orders (Sittings  of the 

House), &c., 353  (on Division).  Resolution  reported,  

and agreed to, 356. 


— 
Police  [Expenses]  ;  Committee  to  consider; 
King's  Recommendation  signified,  443.  Matter  con­
sidered  in  Committee, 445.  Resolution  reported, and 
agreed to, 446. 

—— Public  Works  Loans  [Remission];  Com­

mittee  to consider;  King's  Recommendation signified. 

277.  Committee deferred, 284, 287, 291, 293, 298, 308. 

Matter considered  in Committee, 311.  Report deferred,  

316, 323.  Resolution reported, and agreed to, 325.  


—  Secretary  of  the  Board  of  Agriculture and  

Fisheries  [Salary];  Committee  to  consider; King's  

Recommendation  signified,  369.  Committee  deferred,  

376.  Matter considered in Committee, 382.  Resolution 
reported, and agreed to, 393.  


Superannuation [Allowances and Gratuities] ; 

Committee  to consider;  King's Recommendation signi­
fied,  277.  Committee deferred, 284, 287, 291, 293, 298,  

308.  Matter  considered  in  Committee,  311.  Report 
deferred, 316, 323.  Resolution reported, and agreed to,  

326. 

Trade  Boards  [Expenses];  Committee  to 
consider;  King's Recommendation signified, 140.  Com­
mittee deferred, 144, 146,  149, 153,  158, 162,  164, 171, 
175, 178.  Matter considered  in Committee, 183.  Reso­
lution  reported; read a second time ;  Motion, That this 
House doth agree with the Committee  in the Resolution ;
Debate adjourned, 190.  Resumed, and Question agreed 
to on Division, 209. 

—<  —  Committee on matter deferred, 83. 

Matter considered  in Committee ;  no  Report, 

361. 

SELECT  COMMITTEES  ON  BILLS 

—  Daylight Saving Bill ;  committed  to a Select 

Committee, 43.  Nominated; power  to send for persons, 
papers,  and  records ;  Five  quorum,  61.  Minutes  of 
Evidence taken  before the Select Committee  in Session 
1908 referred, 334.  Report and Special Report, 401. 

— Divorce Bills;  Select  Committee nominated, 

69.  Torrens' Divorce Bill reported, 90. 

j 

Asylums Officers' Superannuation  Bill; com­

mitted  to a Select Committee, 95.  Nominated ; power  

to send for persons, papers, and records ;  Five quorum,  

109.  Report and Special Report, 374. 

-——— -  Great  Northern, Great  Central,  and  Great 
Eastern Railways Bill; committed to a Select Committee, 
after Amendments made,  103. 

—  Remission  of Surcharges (Dublin) Bill; com­

mitted  to a Select Committee of  Five Members;  Three ' 

nominated  by  the  House  and Two  by the  Committee  

of Selection ;  Petitions referred;  Counsel heard against  

and  on behalf  of  the Bill;  power  to send for persons, 

papers, and records ;  Three quorum, 128.  Three Mem­
bers nominated  on the Committee, 207.  Report, 242.  


—:  —-  Nominated, 69. 

—  To  consist  of  Fifteen Members,  103.  Five 
to be nominated by the House and Four by the  Committee  

of  Selection,  103.  


Five quorum, 61.  Nine, 103.  Three, 128. 

Special Reports, 374, 401.  


SELECT  COMMITTEES  ON  VARIOUS 

MATTERS:— 

Privileges;  appointed, 4.  Nominated; power  


to  send for persons, papers, and records;  Five quorum,  

48.  Report, 449. 

Standing  Orders;  appointed  and nominated, 

13. 

Selection ;  nominated,  13. 
-— 
Application  of Sinking  Funds  in exercise  of 
Borrowing Powers;  appointed and nominated; power  to 
send for persons,  papers,  and records ;  Three quorum, 
17.  Report, 233. 

— Police Forces (Weekly Rest-Day);  appointed 

and nominated ;  power  to  send for persons, papers, and 
records ;  Three  quorum, 24.  Police (Weekly Holiday) 
Bill referred  to the Committee, 44.  Report, 140. 

Publications  and  Debates  Reports;  ap­
pointed  and  nominated;  power  to  send for persons, 
papers,  and  records;  Three  quorum,  25.  Special 
Report, 49.  Report, 455. 

Public Accounts;  nominated;  power  to  send* 
for  persons,  papers,  and  records;  Five  quorum,  27. 
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— — 

Public  Petitions ;  appointed  and  nominated; 

Three quorum, 31. 

•	 

House of  Commons  (Kitchen  and Refreshment 

Rooms) ;  appointed  and nominated, 35.  Report,  546. 

—  Local  Legislation  Committee;  nominated  by 
Committee  of  Selection;  power  to  send  for persons, 
papers, and records ;  Four quorum, 43. 

— — - — -—  Debtors (Imprisonment) ;  appointed  and nomi­

nated;  Five  quorum, 48.  Report  and  Evidence  of  the 
in  Session  1908  referred,  334. 
Select  Committee 
Minutes  of  Evidence  of  last  Session to  be printed, 337. 
Report, 337. 

—— 

Bastardy  Orders;  appointed  and  nominated; 

power  to  send for persons, papers, and records ; Three 
quorum ;  Bastardy  Bill  committed  to the Committee, 
179.  Report from the Select Committee, and Bastardy 
Bill reported, without Amendment, 3 3 4  .  Vide  SPECIA L 
HEADINGS. 

— 

Appointed,  4.  Appointed and nominated,  13, 

25, 35* 48, &c.  Nominated, 13, 48. 

To consist  of Thirteen Members, 13.  Fifteen, 

27,  Seventeen, 35. 

-—  ——  Three quorum, 25, 179.  Five, 27.  Four, 43. 
— —  Minutes of Evidence of a former Session to  be 
referred  to  Select Committee  on the same  subject, 53, 
126, 334. 

Report  and  Evidence  of  Select  Committee  of 

former Session referred, 334. 

Minutes  of  Evidence  taken before  a Select 

Committee  in a former Session to be printed, 140. 

— -  Resolution  of  a  Select  Committee  referred 

back to the said Committee, 13,9. 

Special Report, 49. 

J O I NT	   C O M M I T T E E S .— 

—

:

  •  High  Court  of  Justice  (King's  Bench Divi­

sion);  Resolution,  That  it  is  expedient  that  a Select 
Committee of Five Members  of this House  be  appointed 
to join  with a Committee  of  the Lords to consider the 
state of Business  in  the  King's  Bench  Division of the 
High  Court,  and  report  thereon,  and  whether  any 
increase  is  desirable  in the  number  of  Judges of that 
Division, and  to make such recommendations as they see 
fit;  Message  to  acquaint  the  Lords  therewith,  273. 
Message from the Lords concurring with the Resolution, 
286.  So  much  of  Lords'  Message  concurring  with 
the  Commons  in  their  Resolution  considered; Select 
Committee  of  Five Members  appointed  to join  with  a 
Committee  to  be appointed  by  the Lords;  Message  to 
the Lords  to acquaint them therewith;  Five Members 
nominated;  power  to  send  for  persons,  papers, and 
records;  Three  to  be the quorum, 291.  Message from 
the Lords  appointing  a Committee of  Five Members  to 
join with a Committee of  the Commons  to consider, &c., 
313.  Message from the Lords proposing place and time 
of meeting, 322.  So much  of  Lords' Message  as relates 
to place and time  of meeting considered ;  Order, That 
the  Committee appointed  by this  House  do meet the 
Lords'  Committee as proposed  by the Lords;  Message 
to acquaint them therewith, 322.  Report, 546. 

Stage  Plays  (Censorship);  Resolution,  That 

it is expedient that a Select Committee of this House  be 
appointed  to join  with  a  Committee  of  the  Lords to 
inquire into the Censorship  of Stage Plays as constituted 
by the  Theatres Act, 1843,  and into  the  operation  of 

the  Acts  of  Parliament  relating  to the  licensing  and 
regulation of theatres and places  of public entertainment, 
and  to report  any alterations  of  the  Law  or practice 
which may appear desirable;  Message  to  acquaint  the 
Lords therewith,  273.  Message  from the Lords con­
curring  with  the  Resolution,  289.  Lords'  Message 
concurring with  the  Commons  in their Resolution con­
sidered ;  Select Committee of Five  Members appointed 
to join with a Committee to be appointed by the Lords; 
Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith; Five 
Members nominated ; power  to send for persons, papers, 
and records ;  Three  to  be the  quorum, 309.  Message 
from the Lords appointing a Committee  of Five Members 
to join  with a Committee  of  the Commons  to inquire, 
&c., and proposing time and  place of meeting, 313.  So 
much  of  Lords'  Message  as relates  to time and  place 
of  meeting  considered;  Order, That  the  Committee 
appointed by this House  do meet the  Lords' Committee 
as proposed  by the  Lords ;  Message  to acquaint them 
therewith, 313.  Report, 524. 

STANDING  COMMITTEES 
———  Report from the Committee  of  Selection of 
Eight Members  to serve on the Chairmen's Panel, under 
Standing Order No. 47, 28. 

—•— 

Report of  names  of  Members nominated  by 
the Committee of Selection  to serve  on  Standing Com­
mittees  A,  B,  C,  37.  Scottish  Standing Committee, 
28, 216. 

Report from the Chairmen's Panel of appoint­

ment  of Member  as Chairman  of Standing Committee A, 
37.  B, 73.  C, 94.  Of Scottish Standing Committee, 
37. 

Member discharged from  Chairmen's Panel, 

another appointed, 73. 

Report of  Resolution,  That  any  Member  of 

the Chairmen's  Panel  be  empowered  to ask any  other 
Member  of the Chairmen's Panel to take his place, 37. 
Member discharged as Chairman of Standing 

Committee A, another appointed, 173. 

Members  discharged,  and others appointed, 

42, 43, 46,  &c.  Vide  STANDING  COMMITTEES  A,   B , 
and   C . 

B I L LS  COMMITTED. 

——  —  Order for  committal  of  a  Bill  discharged ; 

Bill committed  to a Select Committee, 179. 

—————• Bill transferred from Standing  Committee B 

to Standing Committee C, 247. 

BILLS  COMMITTED  : 

Temperance  (Scotland)  Bill,  31.  Scottish 
Standing Committee,  33.  Report (with Amendments), 
160. 

—  Trustees'Accounts Bill, 47.  A, 52.  Report 

(with Amendments), 79. 

— 

—  Sale of Intoxicating Liquors on Sunday Bill, 

56.	  A, 60.  Report (with Amendments), 117. 

Oaths Bill, 61.  B, 64.  Report (with Amend­

ments), 87. 

Bastardy  Bill,  83.  C, 86.  Order for  com­
mittal  discharged;  Bill  committed  to  a Select Com­
mittee, 179. 

— Under Sheriffs (County Boroughs) (Ireland) 

Bill, 93.  B, 96.  Report (with Amendments), 126. 

Licensed  Premises (Election  Days)  Closing  

Bill,  96-7.  A,  102.  Report  (with  Amendments),  

156. 

Trawling  in  Prohibited  Areas (Prevention)  


Bill, 112.  C, 117.  Report (with Amendments), 156. 


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STANDING  COMMITTEES—continued. 

BILLS  COMMITTED—continued. 

— —  —  Local Education Authorities (Medical Treat­
ment) Bill, 116.  A, 119.  Report (without Amendment), 
173. 

— — 

Board  of Trade Bill,  123.  B, 128.  Report 

(with an Amendment), 140. 

- — — —  -  Trade  Boards Bill,  130.  C,  134.  Report 

(with Amendments), 225. 

—  —  Coal Mines  (Checkweighers)  Bill,  148.  A,

154.  Report (with Amendments), 187. 

- — - —  —	  Bishopric of  Sheffield Bill, 148-9.  A,  154. 

Report (with Amendments), 218. 

-—— 

Rule Committee Bill, 154.  B,  159.  Report 

(with an Amendment), 222. 

—  Sale  of  Margarine  Bill,  165.  B, 167.  Re­

port (with Amendments), 248. 

Committee, 37.  Report as  to appointment of Chairman, 
37.  Member discharged  as Chairman, another appointed, 
173.  Standing Committee nominated a,s the Committee 
on which Government  Bills  shall not  have precedence, 
37.  Fifteen Members  added  in respect  of  a Bill,  60, 
126, 156, 290, 318.  Fourteen Members added, 61, 112. 
A Member added  in respect of a Bill,  63,  73,  117, 302, 
374.  Members discharged, others appointed, 42, 63, 68, 
70,  90,  94,  112,  114,  126,  129,  142,  163,  185,  216, 
290,345,347, 374, 380. 

—	 

B I L LS  DISTRIBUTED   b y  M R.  S P E A K ER   to 
STANDING  COMMITTEE   A:  — Bishopric  of Sheffield 
Bill, 154.  Report, 218.  Cheap Trains Bill, 388.  Coal 
Mines  (Cbeokweighers)  Bill,  154.  Report,  187.  Li­
censed  Premises  (Election  Days)  Closing  Bill,  102. 
Report,  156.  Local  Education  Authorities  (Medical 
Treatment)  Bill,  119.  Report,  173.  Metropolitan 
Ambulances  Bill,  318.  Report,  384.  Sale  of Intoxi­
cating  Liquors  on  Sunday  Bill,  60.  Report,  117. 
Superannuation  Bill,  282.  Report, 342.  Trustees' 
Accounts Bill, 52.  Report, 79. 

— — —  —  Handloom Weaving Bill, 167.  B,  172.  Re­

port (with Amendments), 232. 
!  . •  •  •—- Bridgend (Hope English Baptist Chapel, &c.) 
Charity Bill,  183.  B,  186.  Report  (without Amend­
ment), 222. 

Dewsbury and Batley Congregational Chapel 

Charities Bill, 183.  B, 186.  Report (without Amend­
ment), 222. 

John  Marshall's  Charity Bill,  183.  B, 186.  


Report (without Amendment), 222.  


Lichfield  and  Longdon  Congregational 
Chapels and Trust Property Charity Bill, 183.  B, 186. 
Report (without Amendment), 222. 

— 

Sir  R.  Whittington's  Charity  Bill, 183.  B, 

186.	  Report (without Amendment), 222.  


Wortley Congregational  Chapel Charity Bill, 


183.  B, 186.  Report (without Amendment), 222. 

—  London  Elections  Bill,  210.  C,  213.  Re­

port (without Amendment), 235.  


House  Letting  and  Rating  (Scotland) Bill,  

221.  Scottish Standing Committee, 234.  Report (with  

Amendments and amended Title), 336. 


— —  —  Labour Exchanges Bill, 233.  C, 238.  Report 

(with Amendments), 289. 

Marine Insurance (Gambling  Policies) Bill, 

233.  B, 238.  Transferred  to  Standing  Committee  C, 
247.	  Report (with Amendments), 262.  


Superannuation Bill,  275.  A,  282.  Report 

(with Amendments), 342.  


Telegraph  (Arbitration)  Bill,  275.  B, 282.  


R e p o rt   (without Amendment), 299. 


Electric  Lighting  Acts  Amendment  Bill  

[Lords],  275.  C,  282.  Report  (with  Amendments),  

318. 

• 
Report (with Amendments), 384.  


— Metropolitan Ambulances Bill, 308.  A, 318. 


Cheap Trains Bill, 384.  A, 388. 

' 

Development and Road  Improvement Funds 
Bill  423-4.  C,  428.  Report (with Amendments), 
468.' 

—- Report  of  names  of  Members nominated  by 
the  Committee  of  Selection  to  serve  on the Standing 

A. 

B. 

Report  of  names  of Members nominated  by 
the Committee  of  Selection  to serve  on the Standing 
Committee,  37.  Report  as  to  appointment  of  Chair­
man, 73.  Report of Fifteen Members added  in respect 
of  a Bill,  73, 129, 177, 192,  238, 290.  Thirteen Mem­
bers added,  112.  Two  Members  added,  114.  Eleven 
Members added, 160.  One Member added, 173.  Mem­
bers discharged, others  appointed, 83,  87, 112, 137, 160, 
177, 192, 214, 290, 295. 

—	 

B I L LS  DISTRIBUTED   b y  M R.  S P E A K ER   to 
STANDING  C O M M I T T EE   B : — Board  of  Trade  Bill, 
128.  Report,  140.  Bridgend  (Hope  English Baptist  

Chapel,  &c.)  Charity  Bill,  186.  Report, 222.  Dews­
bury and Batley Congregational  Chapel  Charities Bill, 

186.  Report,  222.  John  Marshall's Charity Bill, 186. 
Report,  222.  Lichfield and Longdon Congregational 
Chapels and Trust Property Charity Bill, 186.  Report, 
222.  Marine Insurance (Gambling Policies) Bill, 238. 

Transferred  to  Standing  Committee  C,  247.  Oaths 
Bill,  64.  Report,  87.  Rule  Committee  Bill,  159,  

Report,  222.  Sale  of  Margarine  Bill,  167.  Report,  

248.  Telegraph (Arbitration) Bill, 282.  Report, 299.  

Under Sheriffs  ("County Boroughs)  (Ireland) Bill, 96.  

Report,  126.  Sir  R.  Whittington's  Charity Bill, 186.  

Report,  222.  Wortley Congregational  Chapel Charity  

Bill, 186.  Report, 222.  


C. 

Report  of  names  of  Members  nominated  by 
the  Committee  of  Selection  to serve  on the Standing  

Committee, 37.  Report as  to appointment of Chairman, 

94.  Report of names  of Members discharged and others 
appointed, 44,  46, 66,  68, 73,  114,  126,  129,  135, 141, 
145,  156,  173,  177,  214, 216,  220,  225, 238, 245, 249, 
253,  290, 295, 433, 437, 445, 447.  Member discharged, 
another reinstated, 156.  Fifteen Members added  to the 
Committee in respect of  a Bill, 115,  126, 141,  214, 238, 
245,290,433. 

—  B I L LS  DISTRIBUTED   b y  M R.  S P E A K ER   t o 

— 
STANDING  C O M M I T T EE  C   :—Bastardy Bill, 86.  Order 
for  committal  of Bill  discharged;  Bill  committed  to  a 
Select  Committee,  179.  Development  and Road Im­
provement Funds Bill, 428.  Order, That when the Bill 
is under consideration the Committee have leave  to  sit 
while the House is  sitting, and after Four  of  the clock, 
438 (on Division).  Report, 468.  Electric Lighting Acts 
Amendment  Bill  [Lords'],  282.  Report, 318.  Labour 





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B I L LS  DISTRIBUTED   b y  M R.  S P E A K E R,  &C.-— cont. 
Exchanges  Bill, 238.  Report,  289.  London Elections 
Bill,  213.  Report, 235.  Marine Insurance (Gambling 
Policies)  Bill, transferred from  Standing  Committee  B, 
247.  Report,  262.  Trade  Boards Bill,  134.  Report, 
225.  Trawling in Prohibited Areas  (Prevention) Bill, 
117.  Report, 156." 

SCOTTISH  STANDING  COMMITTEE:— 

Names  of  Members appointed  by the Com­

mittee  of  Selection  to  serve  on the  Scottish Standing 
Committee,  28,  216.  Fifteen  Members  appointed  in 
respect of  a Bill, 34, 226.  Appointment of  Member to 
be Chairman  of the Standing Committee, 37.  Appoint­
ment  of  Member  to serve on the  Standing Committee, 
327.  Members discharged, others appointed, 65.  House 
Letting  and Rating  (Scotland) Bill, 234.  Report, 336. 
Temperance (Scotland) Bill, 33.  Report, 160. 

and  at 8.15 proceeding  postponed, 80.  Resumed; Bill 
read a second time, and committed, 81.  Considered  in 
Committee,  and  reported,  without  Amendment,  83. 
Read the third time and passed, 85.  Agreed  to  by the 
Lords, without Amendment, 87.  (Cited as  Consolidated 
Fund (No. 2)  Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 88. 

CONSOLIDATED  F U ND   ( Appropriation); Bill  to  apply a 
sum  out  of the Consolidated Fund  to the service  of the 
year ending on the thirty-first day of March one thousand 
nine hundred and ten,  and  to appropriate the Supplies 
granted  in  this Session  of  Parliament ;  ordered  to  be 
brought  in  upon  Resolution  reported from  the  Com­
mittee  of Ways and Means ; presented accordingly, and 
read thefirst time, 357.  Bill  read a second time, and 
committed  to  a Committee  of  the  whole  House,  359. 
Considered  in Committee, and reported, without Amend­
ment, 361.  Third Reading deferred, 366.  Bill read the 
third time and passed, 379.  Agreed  to  by the Lords, 
without Amendment, 380.  ( Cited as Appropriation. Act,
1909)  Royal  Assent, 380.  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  W A Y  S 
and  M E A N S. 

COMMITTEES ;  Committees appointed  to draw  up Reasons 
for disagreeing to certain Lords'  Amendments to Bills ; 
nominated ;  Three quorum;  to  withdraw immediately, 
476, 520, 542, 543. 

COMPANIES  (Consolidation)  A C T,  1 9 08   (Rules).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

COMPANIES  (Winding-up)  ACT,  1890.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

CONTAMINATION  of  C H I L D R E N;  Bill  to provide for the 

protection  of Children and young persons from contamina­
tion ;  presented, and ordered to  be read a second time, 
28.  Second Reading deferred, 42, 55, 60, 66, 72, 75, 92, 
113,124. 

CONTINENTAL 
ACCOUNTS. 

R A I L W AY 

INVESTIGATIONS . 

Vide 

COMPLAINT ;  Complaint made  by  a  Member  as  to the 

intervention of  a Peer at a Parliamentary Election, 319. 
Vide  PRIVILEGE. 

CONTINUATION  SCHOOLS ;  Bill to provide for  the estab­

lishment of compulsory Continuation Schools ; presented, 
and ordered to be read a second time, 40. 

COMPTROLLER  of  the  H O U S E H O L D; 

reports  His 
Majesty's Answers to Addresses, 31 ,  179 .  Vide  K I N G '  S 
SPEECH  (Answer  to  Address). 

COMPULSORY  W E I G H I NG   and  MEASUREMENT  ;  Bill  to 
provide  for  the  weighing  and  measurement  of  the 
material  used  in the process  of  manufacture, as well as 
the product thereof,  in  all iron  and steel works, cement 
works,  lime works,  and chalk  quarries; presented, and 
ordered  to be read a second time, 24. 

CONTINUATION  SCHOOLS  (No.  2);  Bill to provide for the 
establishment  of  compulsory  Continuation  Schools  in 
England and Wales, and  to amend the Education Acts, 
1870  to 1902, in respect of the age of  compulsory school 
attendance ;  presented, and ordered  to be read a second 
time, 61. 

CONTRIBUTORY  A N N U I T I E S  ;  Bill  to establish a  system 
of Life Annuities for persons overfifty-five; presented, 
and ordered  to be read a second time, 398. 

CONGESTED  DISTRICTS 

BOARD  

(Ireland). 

Vide 

CONVENTION  of  BERNE.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

ACCOUNTS. 

CONGESTED  DISTRICTS  (Scotland)  ACT,  1897.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

CONGO.  Vide  KING'S  SPEECH   (Motion for  an Address). 

CONVEYANCING  ;  Bill  to amend  the  Conveyancing and 
Law of  Property Act,  1881;  presented, and ordered  to 
be read a second time, 226.  Second Reading deferred, 
261.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  277,  292. 
Second Reading deferred, 299, 309, 326.  Day appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  360.  Second  Reading deferred, 
377, 395. 

CONSOLIDATED  F U ND  (NO.   1 )  ;  Bill  to apply a sum out 
of the  Consolidated  Fund  to  the  service  of  the year 
ending  on the thirty-first day  of  March one thousand 
be read a second time,  13.  Read a  second time, and 
nine hundred and nine ;  ordered  to be brought  in upon a 
committed, 25.  Reported, with Amendments, 65.  Con-
Resolution reported from the Committee  of  Ways and 
sidered,  as amended, 82.  Read the third time and passed, 
Means;  presented, and read thefirst time, 41.  Read  a  86.  Agreed  to  by the Lords, with Amendments, 169. 
second time,  and committed,  44.  Considered  in Com­
Lords' Amendments agreed to,  179.  (Cited  as  Conway
mittee,  and reported,  without  Amendment,  48.  Read 
Gas Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 192. 
the third time and passed, 52.  Agreed to  by the Lords, 
without  Amendment,  53. 
(No. 1) Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 58. 

C O N W AY  G AS  ;  Bill read thefirst time, and  ordered  to 

COPYRIGHT  A C T S,  1844   to  1886.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Cited  as  Consolidated  Fund 

CONSOLIDATED  F U ND 

(NO.   2);  Bill  to  apply  certain 
sums out  of  the  Consolidated  Fund  to the service of 
the years ending  on the thirty-first  day  of  March one 
thousand  nine  hundred  and eight,  one  thousand nine 
hundred and nine, and one thousand nine hundred  and 
ten;  brought  in upon Report  of  Resolutions from the 
Committee  of  Ways  and  Means;  presented,  and  read 
thefirst time, 79.  Proceedings not to be interrupted at 
Five nor half-past Five  of  the clock on Friday, &c., 80. 
Motion,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second time, 

CORK,  BANDON,   and  SOUTH  COAST  R A I L W AY  ;  Bill 

read thefirst time,  and  referred  to the Examiners, 13. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously inquired into 
complied with.  Bill read a second time, and committed, 
57.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  94.  Considered,  as 
amended,  148.  Read the third  time and passed,  154. 
Agreed to by the Lords, with Amendments, 262.  Lords' 
Amendments  agreed  to,  273.  (Cited as Cork,  Bandon, 
and South Coast Railway  Act,  1909) Royal  Assent, 381. 

CORK  C I TY  W R I T  .  Vide  ELECTIONS. 

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CORONERS'  INQUESTS;  Bill  to dispense  with  the com­
pulsory  viewing  of  bodies  on the holding  of Coroners' 
Inquests ;  presented, and ordered  to  be read a second 
time, 19.  Second Beading deferred, 44, 72, 113. 

CRIMINAL  L AW  AMENDMENT  ; Bill to amend the Criminal 
Law  Amendment  Act,  1885,  and for  other purposes 
connected therewith ; presented, and ordered to be read 
a second time, 102.  Second Reading deferred, 123, 216. 

CORONERS  (Departmental  Committee).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

CORNWALL,  D U KE   of.  Vide  W A L E S,  P R I N CE   of. 

CORNWALL,  D U C HT  of.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

CORPORAL  PUNISHMENT.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

COST  of  L I V I NG  (French  Towns).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COTTAGE  HOMES   for  A G ED  PERSONS  ;  Bill  to  enable 
local authorities and private individuals  to co-operate in 
the  provision  of dwellings suitable  for  occupation  by 
Aged Persons, where  no suitable houses arc available ; 
ordered; presented accordingly, and read thefirst time, 
266.  Second  Reading  deferred,  317,  333,  352.  Day 
appointed for Second Reading, 368. 

COUNSEL: 
—	 

To  be  heard  against and  in support  of Bills 

referred to Select Committees, 128. 

CRIMINAL  L AW   and  PROCEDURE  (Ireland)'  ACT,  1887 

(Repeal); Bill to provide for the repeal of the Criminal 
Law  and Procedure  (Ireland)  Act,  1887 ; presented, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  22.  Second 
Reading deferred,  135. 

CRIMINAL  PROCEDURE  

(Scotland)  ACT,  1887.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

CROFTERS' 

HOLDINGS  

(Scotland) 

ACTS. 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

CROFTING  PARISHES   (Scotland)  [.Lords] ;  Bill, intituled 
An Act to amend the Acts  relating  to Crofters' Hold­
ings  in  Scotland;  to  amend  the  Congested  Districts 
(Scotland) Act, 1897;  to facilitate the provision of small 
agricultural Holdings  in Crofting Parishes  in Scotland, 
and  for  other  purposes  connected therewith; brought 
from the Lords, 449. 

CROWN  AGENTS.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

CROWN  LEASES.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

Instruction  to  the  Select  Committee  on 

Divorce Bills to hear Counsel, 73. 

CROWN'S  NOMINEE  ACCOUNT.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COUNTY  COUNCILS  MORTGAGES  ;  Bill to remove certain 
limitations on the borrowing by a county council by way 
of mortgage under  the Local  Government  Act,  1888; 
presented, and ordered  to  be  read a second time,  192. 
Second Reading deferred. 212, 223, 230,  243, 260,  280, 
297, 316, 332,  350,  366,  376, 383,  397,  401,  403, 407, 
409, 411, 414,417, 419, 425, 432, 434, 437,442, 445,446, 
451, 462,  465,  468, 470,  474,  475,  479,  482,  485, 502, 
509, 510, 513,  521,  526.  Bill read a second time ;  Bill 
committed  to  a  Committee  of  the whole House, 527. 
Considered  in  Committee,  and  reported,  528.  Con­
sidered,  as  amended;  read the third  time  and  passed, 
530.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without Amendment, 
531. 
Royal Assent, 539. 

(Cited  as  County  Councils Mortgages  Act,  1909) 

CROYDON  BOROUGH  W R I T. 

V i de  ELECTIONS. 

C R U E L TY   to  A N I M A LS  (Amendment)  ;  Bill  to  amend  the 
Cruelty  to  Animals  Acts  ;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be 
read a  second  time,  271.  Second  Reading  deferred,  331. 
C R U E L TY  to  A N I M A LS ;  Bill  to  prohibit  the hunting, 

coursing, and shooting of  Animals which have been kept 
in  confinement; presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read a 
second time, 26.  Second Reading  deferred, 51, 66, 85. 
Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  143.  Second 
Reading deferred, 147, 161, 178. 

C R U E L TY  to ANIMALS  (NO.  2)  ;  Bill to amend the Cruelty 
to  Animals  Act,  1876 ;  presented,  and  ordered  to be 
read a second time, 76.  Second Reading deferred, 97. 

COUNTY  COURT  PROCEDURE.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

COUNTY  COURT   RULES.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COUNTY  COURTS   ACT,  1888.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COUNTY  C O U R T S (  E n g l a n d)  FEES.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

COUNTY  COURTS  JURISDICTION  

( Ireland);  Bill  to 

extend the Jurisdiction  of  County  Courts  in  Ireland ; 
presented, and ordered to be read a second time, 415. 

COUNTY 

COURTS  

(Plaints 

and  Sittings). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

COUNTY  OFFICERS  and  COURTS  (Ireland)  A C T,  1 8 7 7. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

C R U E L TY  to  A N I M A LS   (NO. 3) ;  Bill to amend the Cruelty 
to Animals Acts, 1849 and 1854;  presented, and ordered 
to  be read a second time, 130.  Second Reading deferred, 
143.  Day appointed for Second Reading, 205.  Second 
Reading deferred, 213, 231. 

C R U E L TY  to  W O M EN ;  Bill to make further provision for 
the protection  of certain Women from Cruelty, and  for 
other  purposes  connected  therewith;  presented,  and 
ordered  to be read a second time, 313. 

CRYSTAL  P A L A CE  C O M P A N Y;   Bill  read thefirst time, 
and referred  to  the Examiners,  13.  Report, Standing 
Orders not previously  inquired into not complied with, 
referred  to  Select  Committee  on  Standing Orders, 84. 
Order  for  referring  Report  of  Examiners  to  Select 
Committee  on  Standing Orders discharged;  Bill with­
drawn,  121. 

COUNTY  P A L A T I NE   of  CHESTER  and  PRINCIPALITY   of  


W A L E S.  V i de  ACCOUNTS.  PUBLIC  RECORDS. 

CUSTOMS.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

COURT  of  PROBATE  DIVISION   (High  Court  of  Justice)  


(Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


CUSTOMS  and  INLAND  R E V E N UE  B I LL   (Explanatory 
Memorandum on  Clauses  3,  5,  7,  and  9).  Vide 
ACCOUNTS. 

CRIMINAL  A P P E AL   ;  Bill  to amend the Criminal Appeal 
Act, 1907 ;  presented, and ordered  to  be read a second 
time,  141.  Second  Reading  deferred,  166,  185, 231, 
235, 256,282,299, 309, 326. 

CRIMINAL  and  JUDICIAL  STATISTICS   (Ireland).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 


CUSTOMS  and  I N L A ND  R E V E N U E;   Bill  to amend the Law 
relating to Customs and Inland Revenue, and for other 
purposes  connected  with  Finance ;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be read a second time,  32.  Second Reading 
deferred, 36, 39, 41, 44, 48, 52, 55, 56, 59,  71, 85, 100, 
105, 110,  113,116,  118,  124,  127,  130,  133,  138, 141, 





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CUSTOMS  and  INLAND  R E V E N U E —  c o n t i n u e d. 

DEBATES: 

144, 154,  158, 162,  165, 167,  171,  175,  178,  183,  185,  

190,  193, 204, 208,  212, 223,  230, 243,  246,  250, 260,  — 
Adjourned:—On Address, 9.  On Amend­
280,  284,  288,  291, 293,  298,  308, 316,  323, 326,  329,  ment  to  Address, 17.  On  going  into  Committee  of  

Supply  (Navy  Estimates),  62.  On  Amendment  to  

332,  335,  340,  344,  345, 351,  357, 359, 361.  Bill read 
Second Reading of a Bill, 82, 92, 211, &c.  

a  second time;  Bill committed  to a  Committee  of the 
whole Honse,  363.  Committee  deferred, 367, 376, 382,  

397,400,  403,  407, 409, 410,  413, 417, 419,  424, 428,  

432, 434, 437, 451, 462.  Bill considered  in Committee,  with the Committee in a Resolution, 190, 209. 

465.  Considered  in  Committee,  and  reported,  470. 
Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  472.  Bill con-
sidered,  as amended; read  the third  time and passed,  Means, 189. 
474.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without Amendment, 
545.  (Cited as Revenue Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 547. 

On Question, That a sum stand part of a
Resolution  reported  from  Committee  of  Ways  and 

— Day appointed for resumption  of Debate 

On Question, That this House doth agree 

~j 

; 

CUSTOMS  and  I N L A ND  R E V E N UE   [Stamp  Duties,  6fc.~\  ;
Motion for the House to resolve itself  into a Committee 
to consider of authorising the non-payment  of drawback  

on certain kinds of tobacco, and the  abolition of certain 
limitations and exemptions  under the Stamp Act, 1891, 

the Income Tax Act, 1842, the Revenue Act, 1889,  and  

the  Tithe Rent-charge (Rates) Aet,  1899, in pursuance 
of  any  Act  of  the present  Session  to  amend the Law 
relating to Customs  and Inland Revenue, and for other  - — 
purposes connected  with  Finance ;  King's Recommen-
dation signified, 369.  Committee deferred, 376.  Matter 
considered in Committee, 382.  Resolution reported, and  

agreed to, 393. 

CYPRUS.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

9  Edw. VIL  Pari.  28.  Sess.  4  1909. 

D A L B E A T  H 

C O L L I E R Y, 

F I F E S H I R K  . 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS.  M I N ES  and  QUARRIES. 

D A Y L I G HT  SAVING  ;  Bill  to  promote the  earlier  use  of  


on Motion for  an Address, House  having been counted 
out on the Question the previous day, 166. 

Day  appointed 

for  resumption  of 

adjourned Debate  on Second Reading  of a Bill, 135,156. 


Resumed  on Address, 17. 

Resumed  on  Question,  That  a  Bill  


(Private)  be committed to a Select Committee, 103. 


—  Resumed  on Amendment," three months," 

proposed  to Question, That a Bill be now read the third  

time, 528.  


Resumed  on  Amendment  proposed  to 

Second Reading  of a Bill,  92,  100,  214.  And further 
adjourned, 214, 216. 

reported from Committee of Ways and Means, 192. 

Resumed  on Amendment  to a Resolution 

— 

Resumed  an Question,  That  the House 
doth agree with the Committee  in a Resolution reported 
from Committee of the whole House, 209. 

Daylight  in  certain  months  yearly,  and  for  other 
Resumed  on  Amendment  to  Question,  

purposes relating thereto ;  presented, and ordered  to  be  That  a Bill  be now  read a  second time, and  further  

read a second time, 18.  Motion, That the Bill  be  now  
 adjourned, 334. 
read a second time ; Amendment proposed, " six months ;" 

Closure claimed, assent withheld;  Question put, pursuant  — 
to Standing  Order (Closure  of  Debate); Amendment 
not made ;  Main Question claimed, put accordingly,  and  

agreed  to on Division;  Bill read a second time ;  Motion,  — 
That the Bill be committed  to a Committee of the whole  proposed  to Question, That a Bill  be now read a second  

House,  on  Division,  negatived;  Bill  committed  to a 
Select Committee, 42-3.  Select Committee nominated;  

power  to send for persons,  papers,  and  records;  Five 
quorum, 61.  Minutes of Evidence of  Select Committee 
of  Session  1908 referred,  334.  Reported  from Select  

Committee,"without Amendment;  Special Report, 401.  ^ 

— Motions, That Debates  be adjourned,  17  


Lapse  at Eleven of the clock,  130.  Day 

Resumed  on Amendment, " six months,"  


Resumed  on  Question, That  a  Bill  be  


now read a second time, 403, 499. 


(withdrawn), 74, 82, 216, 527.  


time, 341.  


appointed for resumption, 135. 

D E A TH  CERTIFICATES   (Charges)  ;  Bill  to  amend the 

Births and Deaths Registration Act, 1836, for the purpose 
of reducing the charges for Death Certificates  in certain  

cases;  presented, and ordered to  be read a second  time,  82, 149.  After Five, 20. 

37.  Second Reading deferred, 51, 55, 64, 75, 81, 89,95, 
Stood  adjourned;  no  days fixed for 
113,  128.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  141.  resumption;  at Eleven, 61, 75, 116, 143.  After Eleven, 
Second Reading  deferred,  147, 161, 165,237,  309, 326, 
333, 352, 368, 377. 

Stood adjourned  at Eleven,  38,  47,  89, 
100,112, 130, 117.  After Eleven, 12, 22,27.  At Five 

64. 

D E A TH  DUTIES.   Vide  W A YS   and  M E A N S. 

D E A TH 

SENTENCES 

in  CROWN  COLONIES.   Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

D E A T HS   of 

INFANTS  

in  POOR  L AW 

INSTITUTIONS. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS . 

D E A T HS  REGISTRATION   and  BURIALS  ;  Bill  to amend 
the Law relating  to the Registration  of Deaths, and  to 
Burials;  presented,  and ordered  to  be  read  a second  D E N B I G  H  COUNT Y 
time, 32.  Second Reading deferred, 47, 61, 75, 97, 130.  ELECTIONS. 

DEBTORS  (Imprisonment) ;  Select  Committee  to inquire 
into  the  existing Law  relating  to  the  Imprisonment 
of  Debtors,  and  to  report  whether  any Amendments 
are desirable;  appointed ;  nominated ; power  to send for 
persons, papers, and records;  Five  to  be the quorum, 
48.  Report  and  Evidence  of  Select  Committee  of 
Session 1908 referred, 334.  Minutes of Evidence before 
the Select Committee  of last Session to be printed, 337. 
Report, 337. 

(Eastern  Division)  WRIT,  Vide 

D E A T HS  from  STARVATION,  or accelerated  by  P R I V A­

TION  (England and Wales).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

DEPARTMENT  

of  AGRICULTURE 
INSTRUCTION  for  IRELAND.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

and 

TECHNICAL 

VOL. 164. 

Sess. 1909. 

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D E R B  Y  COUNT Y  (Mid  Division)  W R I T  .  Vide  E L E C  ­

TIONS . 

D E R B  Y  COUNT Y  (High  Peak  Division).  Vide  E L E C  ­

TIONS. 

D E R W E NT  V A L L EY  W A T ER  BOARD  ;  Bill read the  first 
time, and ordered  to  be read a second time,  13.  Day 
appointed  for  Second  Reading,  23.  Second  Reading 
deferred, 25, 39.  Read a second time, aud committed ; 
Motion,  That  it  be  an Instruction,  and  Motion with­
drawn,  47.  Reported,  with Amendments,  211.  Con­
sidered,  as amended; Amendments made, 241.  Read the 
third time and passed, 251.  Agreed  to  by the Lords, 
with Amendments, 318.  Lords' Amendments agreed to, 
327.  (Cited as Derwent  Valley Water Act,  1909) Royal 
Assent, 381. 

DESTRUCTIVE 
ACCOUNTS. 

.  INSECTS  and  PESTS  ACTS.  Vide 

DEVELOPMENT  and  R O AD  IMPROVEMENT  FUNDS  B I L L.  


Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


Amendments  proposed,  not  made,  and  withdrawn; 
Amendments made;  new Schedule amended, and agreed 
to ;  Bill read the third time and passed, 482-5.  Agreed 
to  by the Lords, with Amendments;  day appointed  for 
considering them, and to be printed, 505.  Consideration 
of Lords' Amendments deferred, 521, 529, 534.  Motion 
for  consideration  of  Lords'  Amendments;  Debate 
adjourned, 536.  Debate resumed;  Question put,  and 
agreed  to ;  Lords'  Amendments  considered; several 
agreed  to (Message  by  Black  Rod) ;  one disagreed to, 
several others agreed to, and disagreed  to ; Amendment 
divided, and disagreed to;  one amended, and agreed to; 
Amendment made  to the Bill, in lieu  of  Lords' Amend­
ment disagreed to ;  several others  agreed to, disagreed 
to, amended,  and agreed  to;  Committee appointed to 
draw  up Reasons, &c.;  nominated;  Three  quorum;  to 
withdraw,  539-42.  Reasons  reported,  and agreed to, 
543.  The  Lords  agree  to  the  Amendments made by 
this House  to the Amendments made  by  the Lords  to 
the Bill, without any Amendment, and  do not insist  on 
their Amendments  to  which this House hath disagreed, 
545. 
(Cited  as  Development  and  Road  Improvement
Funds Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 547. 

DEVELOPMENT 

and  ROAD 

IMPROVEMENT 

FUNDS 

[Money] ;  Motion for the House  to resolve itself into a 
Committee to consider  of authorising the payment,  out 
of moneys provided by Parliament, and out  of the  Con­
solidated Fund, of  such sums  as may  be  payable under 
any Act of the present Session to promote the economic 
Development of the United Kingdom and the improve­
ment of Roads therein;  King's Recommendation signified, 
418.  Matter considered in Committee; Amendments pro­
posed ; withdrawn, and negatived  on Division ; Question 
put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate), 
aud agreed to, 424.  Resolution reported, and agreed to, 
427-8. 

DEVELOPMENT 

and  R O AD 

IMPROVEMENT 

FUNDS 

B I L  L  ;  Motion, That when the Development and  Road 
Improvement Funds Bill is under consideration  Standing 
Committee  C  have  leave  to  sit  while  the  House is 
sitting,  and  after  Four  of  the  clock;  Amendment 
proposed,  to  leave  out  words  and  insert  others,  on 
Division, not  made ;  Closure claimed, assent withheld; 
Main Question put, and agreed  to  on Division; Order,
&c., 437-8. 

D E W S B U RY  and  B A T L EY  CONGREGATIONAL  C H A P EL 

CHARITIES  ;  Bill to confirm  a Scheme  of  the  Charity 
Commissioners  for  the  management  of  the  Charities 
consisting  of  the  Trinity  Congregational  Chapel and 
the  Ebenezer  Congregational  Chapel  Burial  Ground 
Caretaker's House and Mission Room,  in  the Parishes 
of  Dewsbury  and Batley,  in  the  West  Riding of the 
County of  York;  presented,  and ordered  to  be  read  a 
second time, 70.  Second Reading deferred, 86, 87, 119, 
131, 134, 136, 147, 158, 165.  Read  a second time, and 
committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  183.  B,  186. 
Fifteen Members added  in respect of the Bill, 192.  BUI 
reported, without Amendment, 222.  Consideration (not 
amended)  deferred,  231.  Considered  (not amended), 
237.  Third Reading  deferred, 239,  244, 250, 281, 298, 
317, 329, 351, 377, 383, 394.  Bill read  the  third time 
and  passed,  400.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords, without 
(Cited  as  Dewsbury  and  Batley 
Amendment,  463. 
Congregational  Chapels Scheme Confirmation:  Act,  1903) 
Royal Assent, 491. 

DISASTER   at  A L E X A N D RA  DOCK,  NEWPORT 

( M O N . ). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

DISEASES  of  A N I M A LS  [Lords] ; 'Bill,  intituled  An  Act 

to provide for the payment  of fees to veterinary surgeons 
and practitioners for notification  of Diseases  of Animals ;
brought from the Lords, 476.  Read thefirst time, 494. 
Second  Reading  deferred, 502, 509.  Motipn, That the 
Bill  be now read a second time, and, on Division, agreed 
to ;  Bill committed  to a Committee of the whole House, 
510.  Considered  in Committee, and reported, without 
Amendment;  Bill read the  third time and passed, 512. 
(Cited as  Diseases of  Animals Act,  1909) Royal Assent, 
539. 

DEVELOPMENT  and  R O AD  IMPROVEMENT   FUNDS;  Bill 
to  promote the  economic  development  of  the  United 
Kingdom and the improvement  of  Roads  therein ; pre­
sented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second time,  407. 
Second  Reading  deferred, 413.  Motion, That  the Bill 
be  now  read  a  second  time ;  Amendment  proposed, 
"  three months,"  on Division, not  made ;  Question  on 
Amendment put,  pursuant  to  Standing Order (Closure 
of Debate);  Bill read a second time ;  Motion, That the 
Bill be committed  to a Committee  of  the whole House, 
negatived  on  Division;  Bill  committed  to a Standing 
Committee, 423-4.  C, 428.  Members discharged from 
the  Committee,  others appointed, 433,  437,  445,  447. 
Fifteen Members added  to the Committee, 433.  Order,
That  Standing  Committee  C  have ieave  to  sit while 
the House  is  sitting, and after Four, when the Bill is 
under consideration, 438.  Bill reported from Standing 
Committee, with Amendments, 468.  Consideration,  as 
amended  in the Standing Committee, deferred, 477, 478. 
Order for consideration,  as amended, read;  Motion to 
recommit the Bill  to the Standing Committee in respect  DIVISIONS  : 
of  a Clause ;  Question  negatived on Division ; Bill,  as 
amended,  considered;  Amendments  made;  Amend- — 
No  Tellers  for  the  Noes,  246  (twice) 
ments proposed, not made, and withdrawn; Amendments  (on  Question  being  put,  pursuant  to Standing Order 
amended,  479-82.  Further  considered,  as amended; 

T A X A T I ON  LICENCE  DUTIES 
between  L O C AL  AUTHORITIES   and  EXCHEQUER. 
Vide FINANCE  [ Consolidated Fund]  COMMITTEE. 

DISEASES  of  A N I M A LS  ACTS,  1894  to  1903.  Vide 

DIVISION   of  LOCAL 

ACCOUNTS. 


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DIVORC E  B I L L  S ;  Select  Committee  nominated,  69. 
Message  to  the  Lords  requesting  Minutes  of  Evi-
dence,  &c.,  72. 
Instruction  to  the  Committee  to 
hear  Counsel and examine Witnesses, &c.,  73 (Torrens' 
Divorce Bill).  Minutes of Evidence communicated from  poration Act,  1909) Royal  Assent, 381. 
the Lords, 80.  Torrens' Divorce Bill  reported, without 
Amendment;  Minutes  of  Evidence and Proceedings in  D U M F R I E  S  DISTRIC T  of  BURGHS  W R I T  .  Vide  E L E C-
the  House of  Lords  to  be returned,  90.  Bill read the 
third time and passed, without  Amendment, 98.  Boyal 
Assent, 135. 

Bill  read a second  time, and committed,  150.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  180.  Considered,  as  amended,  191. 
Read  the third  time  and passed, with  Amendments,  205. 
(Cited as  Dudley  Cor-
To  which  the  Lords  agree, 258. 

DUNOON  BURGH   [Lords];  Report  (under the  Private 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland) Act, 1899)  That the 
DOGS  (Exemption) ;  Bill  to  exempt  Dogs  from  painful  Bill should originate  in the House of Lords, 30.  Report, 
Experiments; presented, and ordered to be read a second  Standing  Orders certified  to have  been  complied with, 
time, 118.  Motion, That the Bill be  now  read a second  56.  Brought from the Lords, 289.  Read thefirst time, 
time ;  Motion, That the Debate be now adjourned, and  at  and referred  to the Examiners, 290.  Report, Standing 
Eleven  of the clock Motion lapsed, without Question  put,  Orders not previously inquired into, complied with, 293. 
and  Debate  on Question, That the Bill  be  now read a  Day appointed for Second Reading, 311.  Second Reading 
second time, stood adjourned, 130.  Day appointed for re- deferred, 318.  Bill read a second time, and committed, 
333.  Order  for  referring  Bill  to  Local  Legislation 
sumption of adjourned Debate, 135,145,163.  Adjourned 
Debate  further  adjourned,  178.  Day  appointed  for  	 Committee suspended;  Bill  referred  to  Committee  on 

TIONS. 

•  resumption  of  adjourned  Debate, 222, 271.  Adjourned 
Debate  further  adjourned,  333.  Day  appointed  for 
resumption of adjourned Debate, 389. 

DOGS'  PROTECTION  ;  Bill  to prohibit Experiments upon 
Dogs;  presented,  and ordered  to be read a second time, 
21.  Second Reading deferred, 166, 172,  176, 179, 183, 
194, 201,  213,  240,  244,  247,  251, 254,  256,  261, 265, 
268, 273,  281, 285,  288,  291,  299,  309,  317,  327, 329, 
333, 335, 340, 352, 358, 362, 368, 377, 384, 395. 

DOGS  REGULATION  

(Ireland)  A C T, 

1865.  

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

unopposed Bills, 368.  Bill reported, with Amendments, 
374.  Day appointed for consideration,  as amended, 388. 
Consideration,  as  amended, deferred, 391.  Order for 
consideration,  as amended, read;  Amendment proposed, 
" three months," and withdrawn ;  Bill,  as amended, con-
sidered,  402-3.  Day  appointed  for  Third Reading, 
409.  Third  Reading deferred, 411.  Motion, That the 
Bill  be now read  the third time ;  Amendment,  " three 
months,"  on Division, not made ;  Bill read the third time 
and  passed,  with  Amendments,  415.  To  which the 
Lords  agree, 437. 
(Cited  as Dunoon  Burgh Act,  1909) 
Royal Assent, 447. 

DURHAM  (County)  ELECTRIC  POWER  SUPPLY   [Lords]  ; 
DONINGTON  W A T ER   [Lords];  Report,  That  the  Bill  Report, That the Bill should  originate  in the House  of 
Lords,  9.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to have 
should  originate  in  the House  of  Lords,  9.  Report, 
Standing  Orders certified  to  have been  complied with,  been complied with, 12.  Brought from the Lords ; read 
12.  Brought  from the  Lords ;  read thefirst time, and  	 the first time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  115. 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  122.  Report,  Standing  Report,  Standing  Orders  not previously  inquired into  

Orders  not previously inquired into complied with, 136.  complied  with,  125.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  

Day  appointed  for  Second Reading, 150.  Bill read  a  committed,  136.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  218.  

second  time,  and  committed,  155.  Reported,  with  	 Considered, as amended, 257.  Read the third time and  

Amendments,  191.  Considered,  as  amended,  221. 
Read the third time and passed, with Amendments, 241.  agree, 286. 
To which the  Lords  agree,  258.  (Cited  as  Donington  Act,  1909) Royal Assent, 381. 

Water Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 381.  


passed,  with  Amendments,  269.  To which  the Lords  

(Cited  as  Durham  Electric  Power  Supply  


D U T  Y  in respect of INTOXICATING  LIQUORS  supplied  in 

CLUBS.  Vide  W A YS   and  MEANS. 

DORSET  COUNTY   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

-.

POLLING  D I S­

TRICTS. 

DRUNKENNESS  (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

D U B L IN  C I T Y  .  Vide  L O RD  M A Y OR   of. 

FINANCE 

B I L L. 

D U B L IN  HOSPITALS.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

D U B L IN  METROPOLITAN  P O L I C E  .  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

D U B L IN  POLICE   ;  Bill to amend the Dublin Police Acts, 
1837  and 1859 ;  presented,  and ordered  to  be read  a 
second time, 214.  Second  Reading deferred, 230, 243, 
260, 280,  297,  316, 332, 350,  366,  382,  397,  400, 403, 
407,  409, 410, 414, 417, 420, 425,  436,  452, 463, 474, 
493,  502,  523, 534. 

D U C HY   of  C O R N W A L L  .  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

D U C HY   of  LANCASTER .  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

9  Edw. VII.  Pari.  28.  Sess.  4.  1909. 
EARNINGS  AND  HOURS  INQUIRY,  VIDE  ACCOUNTS.  ' 

EAST  A F R I CA  PROTECTORATE .  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 
EASTBOURNE  G AS  ;  Bill  read thefirst time, and  referred 
to  the  Examiners,  14.  Report,  Standing  Orders not 
previously inquired  into  complied with, 31.  Bill read 
a second  time,  and  committed,  43.  Reported,  with 
Amendments, 68.  Considered,  as  amended, 84.  Read 
the third time and passed, 93.  Agreed to by the Lords, 
with  Amendments,  192.  Lords'  Amendments agreed, 
to,  205. 
Assent, 381. 

(Cited  as  Eastbourne  Gas  Act,  1909)  Royal 

E A S T ER  OFFERINGS   ;  Bill  to exempt  voluntary  Offerings 
to  clergymen  and  ministers  from  taxation;  presented, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  132.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  135.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading, 214,  Second  Reading  deferred, 220, 244. 

D U D L EY  CORPORATION   [Lords]  ;  Report, That the Bill 

should originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  9.  Report,  E A S  T 
Standing  Orders certified  to  have been complied with, 
12.  Brought  from  the Lords ;  read thefirst time, and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  126.  Report,  Standing  

Orders not previously inquired into complied with,  136. 

ACCOUNTS. 

I N D I A  : 

(Accounts  and Estimates,  1909-10).  Vide 

(Army  Administration).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


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EAST  INDIA—continued. 

(Civil  Service).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Contagious Diseases).  Yide  ACCOUNTS. 
(Education).  Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Enteric  Fever,  Sfc.)  (Native  and  European 

Army).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Estimate).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Excise  Administration).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

King's Consent signified ;  Bill read the  third  time  and 
passed,  with Amendments,  275.  To  which the Lords 
agree,  286. 
(Cited  as East  Sussex  County Council  Act, 
1909) Royal Assent, 381. 

ECCLESIASTICAL  ASSESSMENTS 

(Scotland)  ;  Bill  to 
amend the Law regarding  Ecclesiastical  Assessments  in 
Scotland;  presented, and ordered  to  be read a  second 
time,  53.  Second Reading  deferred,  59, 65,  75, 88, 
91, 116, 128.  Day appointed for  Second Reading, 156. 
Second Reading deferred,  171. 

(Factory

Labour  Commission, 1908).  Vide 

ECCLESIASTICAL  COMMISSION.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

ACCOUNTS. 

(Famine).

  Vide  ACCOUNTS . 

(Fifty

Years'  Administration). 

Yide 

ACCOUNTS. 

(Finance

and  Revenue  Accounts).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

(Financial  Statements).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

-	 

(Home  Accounts).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Income and Expenditure).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 
(Legislative  Councils).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

—	  (Loans  raised in England).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

—	 

(Loans  raised in India).  Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Medical).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

_	 

(Parliamentary Papers).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 
(Progress  and  Condition).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

——  (Prosecutions 

for 

Speeches,  Sfc.).

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

(Railways).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

ECCLESIASTICAL  DISORDERS;   Bill  to  provide  for the 
better  enforcement  of  the  Laws  relating  to  public 
worship and  to deal with  Ecclesiastical Disorders in the 
Church of England ;  presented, and ordered  to be read 
a second time, 19.  Motion, That the  Bill  be now  read 
a  second  time,  and Motion, That  the Debate  be  now 
adjourned,  agreed  to,  120.  Further adjourned,  125. 
Order  for  resuming,  upon  a  future  day,  adjourned 
Debate  on Question, That the Bill  be now read a second 
time, discharged;  Bill withdrawn, 130. 

EDGWARE  and  HAMPSTEAD  R A I L W A Y;   Bill  read the 

first  time, and referred  to the  Examiners, 14.  Report 
from  the  Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders, on 
Petition  for  dispensing  with Standing  Order  128, the 
Standing  Order ought  to  be  dispensed with, 34.  Ex­
aminers report Standing Orders not previously inquired 
into complied  with,  69.  Bill  read a second time, and 
committed,  84.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  218. 
Considered,  as  amended,  238.  Read  the  third time 
and  passed,  245.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords, with 
Amendments,  476.  Lords'  Amendments  agreed  to, 
479. 
1909) Royal Assent, 491. 

(Cited  as  Edgware and  Hampstead Railway  Act, 

EDINBURGH  BURGH  

(South  Division)  W R I T.  Vide 

(Railways  and  Irrigation  Works).

Vide 

ELECTIONS. 

ACCOUNTS. 

—	  (Revenue Accounts).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Sanitary  Measures).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 
(State  Prisoners).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Statistical Abstract).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 
(Supersession  of  Officers).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Trade).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

EDINBURGH  MERCHANT 

COMPANY 

ENDOWMENTS 
ORDER  CONFIRMATION  [Lords];  Bill, intituled An Act 
to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Private 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, relating 
to  the  Edinburgh  Merchant  Company Endowments; 
brought from the Lords; read thefirst time, and ordered 
(under  Section 9 of  the Act)  to  be read a second time, 
271.  Read  a second  time, and day appointed for con­
sideration, 274.  Consideration deferred,  276,  282, 289. 
Bill considered;  read the third time and passed, without 
Amendment,  307. 
pany  Endowments Order  Confirmation  Act,  1909) Royal 

(Cited  as  Edinburgh Merchant Com­

EAST 

INDIA  

(Deportations) ;  Bill  to  amend the Law 

relating to the Deportations of British Subjects  in India ;  Assent, 381. 

ordered; presented accordingly,  and read thefirst time, 

216.	  Second Reading deferred, 237. 

EDUCATIO N  (Administrative Provisions) ; Bill to amend the 
provisions of  the Education (Administrative Provisions) 
Act, 1907, and the Education (Provision  of Meals) Act, 

E A ST	  

INDIA  R E V E N UE  A C C O U N T S;   Order,  That the 

several Accounts and Papers which have been presented  1906 ;  presented, and ordered  to  be read a second time, 
18.  Motion, That the Bill  be now read a second time ;
to the House  in this Session  of Parliament, relating  to 
Amendment  proposed, " six  months," and,  on Division, 
the Revenues of India, be referred  to the consideration 
made ;  Second Reading put off for six months,  120. 
of a Committee  of the whole House;  day appointed for 
Committee,  345.  Motion,  That  Mr.  Speaker  do  now 
leave  the  Chair;  Amendment proposed, " Educational 
System," and not made ;  Main Question put, and agreed 
to;  matter considered  in Committee ;  no Report,' 361. 

EDUCATION  (Administrative Provisions) [Lords];  Bill, inti­

E A ST  SUSSEX  COUNTY  COUNCIL   [Lords]  ; Report, That 
the Bill  should  originate  in the  House  of  Lords,  9. 
Report, Standing Orders certified  to have been complied 
with, 12.  Brought from the Lords ;  read thefirst time, 
and referred  to the  Examiners, 187.  Report, Standing 
Orders not previously inquired into  complied with, 210. 
Bill read a second time, and committed, 221.  Reported, 
with Amendments, 252.  Considered,  as amended, 265. 

tuled An Act to make provision for the better administra­
tion  by central and local authorities in England and W ales 
of the enactments relating to Education ;  brought from 
the  Lords,  463.  Read  the first time,  489.  Second 
Reading deferred, 501, 504, 508.  Read a second time ;
Bill committed to a Committee of the whole House, 510. 
Committee deferred, 512, 521, 525.  Bill  considered in 
Committee, and reported, without Amendment; read the 
third time and passed, without Amendment, 527.  ( Cited 
as  Education  (Administrative  Provisions)  Act,  1909) 
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(Bucks,  Sfc.)  [Lords'^;  Bill,  intituled  An  Act 
TION 
to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders made  by  the 
Board  of  Education under  the Education  Acts,  1870 
to  1907,  to enable the Councils  of  the Administrative 
Counties of  Buckingham, Cornwall,  Gloucester, Mont­
gomery, and Surrey to put  in force the Lands Clauses 
Acts;  brought  from the Lords,  195.  Head the  first 
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  196.  Report, 
Standing  Orders applicable thereto complied with, 210. 
Read a second  time,  and committed, 214.  Reported, 
without Amendment;  Provisional Orders confirmed, 235. 
Read the  third time and passed, without Amendment, 
238. 
Confirmation (Bucks, frc.) Act,  1909) Royal Assent, 380. 

(Cited  as  Education  Board  Provisional  Orders 

EDUCATION  BOARD  PROVISIONAL   ORDER  CONFIRMA­

TION  (London,  No.  1)  [Lords]  ;  Bill, intituled  An Act 
to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  made  by  the Board 
of Education under the Education Acts,  1870  to 1907, 
to  enable the London County Council  to put  in  force 
the Lands Clauses Acts;  brought from the Lords, 195. 
Read thefirst time, and referred  to the Examiners, 196. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  applicable  thereto  complied 
with, 210.  Read a second time, and  committed,  213. 
Reported, without Amendment;  Provisional Order con­
firmed,  235.  Read the  third time and passed, without 
Amendment,  238. 
visional  Order  Confirmation (London,  No.  1)  Act,  1909) 
Royal Assent, 380. 

(Cited  as  Education  Board  Pro­

ACCOUNTS . 

EDUCATIONA L
ACCOUNTS . 

EDUCATION  BOARD  PROVISIONAL  ORDER  CONFIRMA­

TION  (London,  No.  2)  [Lords'];  Bill, intituled An Act 
to  confirm a  Provisional  Order made  by the Board  of 
Education  under the Education  Acts, 1870  to 1907,  to 
enable the London County Council  to put  in force the 
Lands  Clauses  Acts;  brought  from  the  Lords,  195. 
Read thefirst time, and referred  to the Examiners, 196. 
Report, Standing  Orders  applicable  thereto  complied 
with,  210.  Read a second time, and  committed, 213. 
Reported, without Amendment;  Provisional Order con-
firmed,  235.  Read the third time and passed, without 
Amendment,  238. 
visional Order  Confirmation (London,  No.  2)  Act,  1909) 
Royal Assent, 380. 

EDUCATION  (Conditions of  Grant)  ;  Bill  to regulate the 

conditions on which public money may be applied  in aid 
of  Education  in  England  and  Wales,  and for other 

Eurposes incidental  thereto;  presented,  and ordered to 

e read a second time, 246.  Second Reading deferred, 
298, 333, 368, 384, 395. 

EDUCATION  (England  and  Wales);  Bill  to  amend the 
Education Act, 1902;  presented, and ordered  to be read 
a second time, 61.  Second Reading deferred, 88,  113, 
124.  Day appointed for Second Reading, 180. 

EDUCATION  (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

EDUCATION  of  the  BLIND ;  Bill  to  provide  for  the 
Technical Education,  Employment, and Maintenance  of 

the Blind;  presented, and ordered  to  be read a second 
time, 219. 

EDUCATION  ( Scotland)  ACT, 1908  (Application  of  Educa­

tion  (Scotland)  Fund) ;  Motion,  That  an  humble 
Address  be  presented  to  His  Majesty,  praying  His 
Majesty to  withhold his assent to the Scheme  of alloca­
tion of the balance of the Education (Scotland) Fund for 
1909-10,  contained  in  a Minute  of  the  Committee  of 
Council on Education  in  Scotland, dated the 3rd day  of 
June  1909,  and laid upon the  Table of  this House  on 
the  said  3rd  day  of  June  1909 j and  Question put, 
pursuant  to  Standing  Order (Closure of Debate), That 
the Question be now put, but Mr. Speaker declares that 
the Question was not decided  in the Affirmative,  as it 
was not supported by the majority prescribed  by Standing 
Order  No.  27 ;  original  Question again proposed,  ana 
Question put, and negatived  on Division, 273. 

EDUCATIO N  (Scotland).  Vide ACCOUNTS . 

EDUCATIO N 

(Scotland)

(Continuation  Classes).  Vide 

EXPENDITUR E 

(Colonies). 

Vide 

E G Y P  T  (NO.  1, 1909).  Vide  ACCOUNTS . 

EGYPTIA N  GUARANTEE D 

LOA N  of  1885.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

ELECTION   of  ALDERMEN  

in  MUNICIPAL  BOROUGHS   ; 

Bill  to amend the  Municipal  Corporations  Act,  1882, 
with respect  to the  right of  Aldermen  to vote  in the 
Election  of  Aldermen ;  presented,  and ordered  to be 
read a second time, 107.  Second Reading deferred,  115, 
118,  124,'  127,  138,  142,  153,  171,  190, 211, 223, 243, 
259,  280,  297, 316, 332, 349, 367, 376, 383.  Bill with­
drawn, 398. 

Orders  and  Resolutions  for  regulating  the 

mode  of  proceeding  in  respect  of  Members returned 
for two  or more places;  interference  of  Peers,  &c.; 
3-4.  Motion,  That  it  is  a high  infringement  of the 
Liberties and Privileges of the Commons  of  the United 
Kingdom for any Lord of Parliament,  or other Peer or 
Prelate, not being a Peer of Ireland at the time elected, 
and not having declined  to serve, for any County, City, 
or Borough of  Great Britain, to concern himself  in the 
Election  of  Members  to  serve  for  the  Commons  in 
Parliament, except  only  any  Peer  of  Ireland,  at such 
Elections in Great Britain respectively where such Peer 
shall appear  as a candidate, or by himself, or any others, 
be proposed  to  be  elected;  or for any Lord Lieutenant 
or  Governor  of any County  to  avail  himself  of any 
authority derived from his Commission  to influence  the 
Election of any Member  to  serve for the Commons in 
Parliament;  and Question, on Division, resolved in the 
Affirmative, 4. 

(Cited  as  Education  Board  Pro- ELECTIONS: 

WRITS  ISSUED  DURING  THE  RECESS.  


FOR  WHAT  PLACE. 

IN  THE  ROOM  OF 

ON  WHAT  ACCOUNT. 

Warwick  County  (Northern  or  Tam-

worth Division). 

Sir Philip Muntz, Baronet 

Deceased,  3. 

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ELEC TION S—continued. 

WRITS  ISSUED  DURING  THE  SESSION. 

FOB  WHAT  PLACE. 

IN  THE  BOOM  OF 

ON  WHAT  ACCOUNT. 

Taunton Borough 

Forfar County 

Sir Edward Boyle, Baronet 

Manor  of Northstead,  3. 

­ Right Honourable John  Sinclair 

Chiltern Hundreds,  3. 

Hawick District of Burghs  ­

Right Honourable Thomas Shaw 

­ Lord of Appeal in Ordinary, 17. 

Glasgow Burgh (Central Division) 

Sir Andrew Mitchell Torrance 

Deceased, 18. 

Edinburgh Burgh (South Division) 

Arthur Dewar, Esquire, K.c.  ­

Croydon Borough 

Right  Honourable  Hugh  Oakeley 

His  Majesty's  Solicitor  General for 

Scotland, 24. 

Deceased, 67. 

Denbigh County (Eastern Division) 

Edward George Hemmerde, Esquire 

Recorder  of  the  City  of  Liverpool* 

Arnold-Forster. 

Edinburgh Burgh (East Division) 

Sir George M'Crae 

69. 

Vice-President  of  the Local Govern­
ment Board for Scotland, 106. 

Warwick  County (South  Western  or 

Stratford-on-Avon Division). 

Cork City 

Captain Malcolm Kincaid-Smith 

Manor of Northstead, 109. 

William O'Brien, Esquire 

Chiltern Hundreds, 114. 

Sheffield Borough (Attercliffe Division)  Batty LangJey, Esquire -

Chiltern Hundreds, 125. 

Edinburgh Bargh (West Division) 

Sir Lewis M'lver, Baronet 

Manor  of  Northstead,  159  (on 

Division). 

Limerick County (East Limerick) 

William Lundon, Esquire 

Deceased, 204. 

York County (North Riding) (Cleveland Right  Honourable  Herbert  Lewis  Chiltern Hundreds, 258. 

Division). 

Samuel. 

Derby County (Mid Division) 

Sir James Alfred Jacoby 

Derby County (High Peak Division)  - Oswald Partington, Esquire 

Dumfries District of Burghs 

John William Gulland, Esquire 

Deceased, 274. 

Treasurer of  the Exchequer of Great 

Britain and Lord High  Treasurer 
of Ireland, 283. 

Treasurer of the Exchequer of Great 

Britain  and Lord High Treasurer 
of Ireland, 292. 

Sligo County (North Sligo) -

Patrick Aloysius M'Hugh, Esquire - Deceased, 329. 

Kilkenny County (South Kilkenny) 

Nicholas Joseph Murphy, Esquire  - Adjudicated Bankrupt, 347. 

Clare County (West Clare) -

-

- James Halpin, Esquire  -

Deceased, 404. 

Southwark Borough (Bermondsey Divi- George Cooper, Esquire  -

Deceased,  488. 

sion). 

Armagh County (South Armagh) 

William M'Killop, Esquire 

Deceased, 494. 

deferred,  525.  Lords'  Amendments  to  Commons' 
Amendments considered, and agreed to, 527.  (Cited as 
Electric Lighting Act,  1909) Royal Assent, 539. 

ELECTRIC  LIGHTING   ACTS.  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  	
ELECTRIC  LIGHTING  ACTS  AMENDMENT   [Lords]  ;  Bill, 
intituled An Act  to amend the Acts relating to Electric 
Lighting ;  brought from the Lords, 163.  Read the  first 
time,  and  day  appointed  for Second  Reading,  169. ELECTRIC  LIGHTING  PROVISIONAL  ORDER 
2 ) 
[Lords]  ;  Bill,  intituled  An  Act  to  confirm  a  Pro­
Second  Reading  deferred, 178, 183, 190,  212, 223, 243, 
259.  Read a second time, and committed  to a Standing  visional  Order made  by the Board  of  Trade under the 
Committee,  275.  C,  282.  Members discharged, others  Electric  Lighting  Acts,  1882  and  1888,  the  Electric 
Lighting  (Scotland)  Act,  1890,  and  the  Electric 
appointed;  Fifteen Members  added  in  respect  of the 
Bill, 290.  Member discharged, another  appointed, 295.  Lighting (Scotland) Act, 1902, relating  to Dunfermline 
Bill reported, with Amendments, 318.  Consideration,  as 
amended, deferred,  332,  350,  367, 382.  Considered,  as 
amended;  Motion, That a Clause  be added  to the Bill; 
Debate  adjourned, 394.  Adjourned  Debate  resumed ;  and  committed,  238.  Reported,  with  Amendments; 
Clause added ;  Amendments made;  Bill read the third  Provisional  Order  confirmed,  270.  Considered,  as 
time and passed,  with Amendments, 396-7.  To  which  amended, 274.  Read the  third  time and passed, with 
Amendments the Lords agree, with Amendments, 505.  Amendments,  276.  To which  the  Lords  agree,  295. 
Day  appointed for considering  them,  514.  Considera-
tion of Lords'- Amendments  to Commons' Amendments.  Act, 1909) Royal Assent, 381. 

and district ;  brought from the  Lords,  196.  Read  the 
first  time, and referred  to the Examiners, 197.  Report, 
no Standing Orders applicable, 234.  Read a second time, 

(Cited  as  Electric  Lighting  Order  Confirmation (No.  2) 

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(No.  

1) 

E X A M I N E R S: 


[Lords^ ;  Bill,  intituled  An  Act  to  confirm  certain 
Provisional  Orders made  by the Board of  Trade under 
the Electric  Lighting  Acts, 1882 and 1888, relating to 
Chesham (Extension), Cleethorpes (Amendment), Heme 
Bay,  Hindhead  and District  (Extension), Holsworthy, 
Southampton (Extension), Staines, Stourbridge, Turton, 
and  Walton-on-the-Naze;  brought  from  the  Lords; 
read thefirst time, and referred  to the Examiners, 313. 
Order, That  so much  of Standing Order 73 as provides 
that notice of the day on which a Provisional Order Bill 
will  be  examined, &c.  suspended,  330.  Report from 
Examiners, Standing Orders applicable thereto complied 
with, 341.  Bill read a second time, and committed, 344. 
Reported, with Amendments;  Provisional Orders con­
firmed,  374.  Considered,  as amended, 378.  Bill  read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments,  379. 
To  which  the  Lords  agree,  414. 
Lighting  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  1)  Act,  1909) Royal 
Assent, 446. 

(Cited  as  Electric 

ELEMENTARY  SCHOOL  TEACHERS'  SUPERANNUATION 

RULES.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

EMIGRATION  and  IMMIGRATION.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

EMIGRATION  STATISTICS  (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

ENDOWED  SCHOOLS   ACTS.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

ENGINES  and  BOILERS 

(Persons  in  Charge);  Bill  to 
grant  certificates  to  persons  in  charge  of  steam and 
motor Engines,  Boilers, and steam and motor Cranes ;
presented,  and  ordered  to  be read  a second time, 76. 
Second Reading deferred, 97. 

EPISCOPAL  ENDOWMENTS ;  Bill to enable the Endowments 
of archbishoprics  and  bishoprics to  be reduced, to limit 
the  Endowments  of  fresh  bishoprics,  and  for  other 
purposes connected therewith ;  presented, and ordered  to 
be read a second time, 44.  Second Reading deferred, 66, 
72, 88, 113, 124. 

EPIZOOTIC  ABORTION   (Departmental  Committee).  Vide 

A  CCOUNTS. 

Bills (Private) referred  to them, 13, &c.  


—	 

Provisional  Order  Bills  referred  to them, 

30, 49, &e. 

Petitions  for additional provision  referred  to 

them, 108, 150, &c. 

—	 

In the case  of Petition for additional provision, 

Standing Orders not complied with, 119, 121. 

COMMONS'  B I L LS :—Reports relative thereto ;

That the Standing Orders have not been complied with  in 
the case  of Petitions for Bills, 13, 36, &c. 

In  the  case  of  Bills,  Standing  Orders not 
previously  inquired into complied with, 20.  Not com­
plied with, 56, 65.  Standing Orders applicable thereto 
not complied with, 39, 57, &c.  Standing Orders applic­
able thereto  complied  with  in the case  of  Provisional 
Order Bills, 210, 234.  No  Standing Orders applicable 
in the case  of Provisional Order Bills, 39, 69.  Standing 
Orders applicable thereto complied with, 30, 121, &c. 

— •— 

LORDS'  BILLS  :—Reports,  That  they had 

certified that the Standing  Orders have been complied 
with  in respect of the Bills  originating in the House  of 
Lords, 12.  Not to have been complied with, 13, 39.  In 
respect of  the Bills introduced under the Private Legis­
lation  Procedure (Scotland)  Act,  complied  with,  56. 
That  the  Standing  Orders  have  not  been  complied 
with  in  the  case  of  Petitions  for Bills, and  referred 
to the Select  Committee  on Standing  Orders,  13, 36, 
&c.  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
complied  with,  149.  Not  complied  with,  121,  215, 
&c.  No  Standing  Orders  applicable  in  the  case  of 
Provisional Order Bills, 210. 

Examiners  to  examine  Bills  with respect  to 

compliance with Standing Orders (Hybrid Bills), 21, 24, 
45.  Report,  Standing  Orders  applicable  thereto 
complied with, 30.  Not complied with, 39, 57. 

ESCAPE  of  PATIENTS  from  A S Y L U MS  at  EPSOM.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS.  L U N A T IC  A S Y L U M S. 

Order for referring  Bill  to  Examiners  dis­

charged :  Bill withdrawn, 65. 

E S K D A LE  R A I L W AY  B I LL   [Lords'].  Vide  RAVENGLASS 

and  E S K D A LE  R A I L W AY  B I L L. 

ESTABLISHED  CHURCH   ( Wales);  Motion  for  leave to 
bring  in  a Bill to  terminate the  Establishment  of the 
Church of  England  in Wales  and Monmouthshire, and 
to make provision  in respect of the Temporalities thereof, 
and for  other purposes  in  connection with the  matters 
aforesaid;  Amendment proposed, to leave out words and 
add others,  on Division, not  made ;  Main Question put, 
and agreed to;  Bill ordered ;  presented accordingly, and 
read thefirst time, 115.  Second Reading deferred,  124, 
138,  153,  170,  189, 211, 223,  243,  259,  280,  297, 315, 
331, 349, 366, 383.  Bill withdrawn, 398. 

E S T A TE  D U TY  DEDUCTIONS.   Vide W A YS   and  M E A N S. 

ESTIMATES.  Vide  A R M Y,  N A V Y,   and  C I V IL  SER­

V I C E. 

S U P P L Y. 

E V I C T ED 

TENANTS  

(Ireland) 

ACT,  1907.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

EVICTIONS  (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

E V I D E N C E  ;  Bill  to amend the  Law relative to  the right 
of accused  persons  to give, and call, evidence  on their 
own behalf;  ordered ;  presented accordingly, and read 
thefirst time, 359. 

Order  for  referring  Report  of  Examiners 
upon  a Bill  to  Select  Committee  on Standing  Orders 
discharged ;  Bill withdrawn, 121. 

EXCISE  LIQUOR  LICENCES.   Vide  W A YS   and  MEANS. 

E X E T ER 

COUNTY 
I N Q U I RY  into  CHARITIES. 

BOROUGH.  

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

EXPERIMENTS  on  L I V I NG  A N I M A L S.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

E X P I R I NG  L A WS  CONTINUANCE  ;  Bill to continue various 
expiring  Laws;  presented, and  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second time, 380.  Second Reading deferred, 397, 400, 
403, 407, 409,  411, 414, 425, 436, 451, 462, 465, 467, 
470,  474,  475,  479,  482,  485.  Order  for  Second 
Reading  read ;  notice  taken that  Forty Members were 
not present;  House  adjourned, 493.  Day appointed for 
resumption  of  adjourned  Debate,  494.  Adjourned 
Debate resumed ;  Bill read a second  time ;  committed 
to  a Committee  of the whole House, 499.  Committee 
deferred, 502, 510, 512,  521, 525, 527, 528,  534.  Bill 
considered  in Committee, and reported, without Amend­
ment ;  read the third time and passed, 538.  Agreed to 
by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  545. 
(Cited as 
Expiring  Laws  Continuance  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
547. 

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EXPLOSIONS  (Blackbech, Lancashire).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

EXPLOSIONS  (Cotton  Powder  Company,  Uplees  Marshes,  


Faversham).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


EXPLOSIONS  (Explosion  during  removal  of  Wreck  near  


Caister on- Sea).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


EXPLOSIONS 
ACCOUNTS. 


(Fernilee  Factory,  Derbyshire). 

Vide 

EXPLOSIONS  ( West Stanley Colliery).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

E X P L O S I V E S.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

in his employ not less than the minimum standard rate 
of  wages recognised  by  trade societies  in the  district 
where such men are  employed, &c.;  Amendment pro­
posed,  to  leave out words and add others, and made ; 
Question  proposed,  That  those  words  be there added, 
and Question put, pursuant to Standing Order (Closure 
of Debate), and agreed to ;  Main Question,  so  amended, 
put, and agreed to;  Resolution,  51. 

FARRELL ,  JAMES,  Mr., 
SPEAKER . 

MEMBERS . 

IMPRISONMEN T  of.  Vide 

FEE-CHARGIN G  SECONDAR Y

  SCHOOLS 

(Free  Places). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS . 

EXPORTS 

and 

IMPORTS 

(United  Kingdom).  Vide 

F E  E  F U N  D  (House  of Lords).  Vide  ACCOUNTS . 

ACCOUNTS. 


EXPULSION  of  A L I E N S.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

9 Edw. VII.  Pari 28.  Sess.  4.  1909. 

.FACTORY  and  WORKSHOP  A CT   (1901)  AMENDMENT  ; 

Bill to prohibit Employment between Noon  on  Saturday 
and  Six  of  the  clock  on Monday  morning  in cotton, 
woollen, worsted,flax, hemp,  silk, jute, and paper facto­
ries, and  in bleaching and dyeing works ;  presented, and 
ordered to  be read a second time, 96.  Second Reading 
deferred, 116, 128, 158. 

FACTORY  and  WORKSHOP  A CT   (1901)  AMENDMENT 
(No. 2) ;  Bill  to  regulate  Night  Employment  and  to 
prohibit Week-end Employment  in certain Factories and 
Workshops;  presented, and ordered  to be read a second 
time, 337.  Second Reading deferred, 368, 395. 

FACTORY  and  WORKSHOP  A C T,  1 9 0 1,  and  NOTICE   of 

ACCIDENTS  ACT,  1906.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FACTORY  and  WORKSHOP 

regulation of 
Hours  of  Employment, Sfc.  in  Charitable Institutions). 
Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Schemes  for 

FACTORY  and  W O R K S H OP  ACTS   (Particulars  of  Work 

and  Wages) (Chocolates, #<?.).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

F A C T O RY  and  WORKSHOP  ACTS   (Printing  of  Cotton,  #C.).

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FACTORY  and  WORKSHOP  A C TS   (Particulars  of  Piece­

work  Wages).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FACTORY  and  WORKSHOP  A C TS   (Scheme  regulating the 
Hours  of  Employment, Sfc.  in  Charitable Institutions). 
Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FACTORY  and  WORKSHOP  A C TS   (Grinding of  Metals  and 

Racing of  Grindstones).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FACTORY  and  WORKSHOP  ACTS   (Report  on  Florists'  


Workshops).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


FACTORY  and  W O R K S H OP  A C TS  

(Dangerous  and 

Unhealthy Industries).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

F A C T O RY  and  WORKSHOP  A C TS   (Special  Exception—  

Overtime  Employment  on  Incomplete  Process).  V i de 
ACCOUNTS. 


FACTORY  and  WORKSHOP 

(Generation,  Use,  Sfc.  of  


Electrical Energy).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

F A IR  W A G ES  C L A U S E;   Motion,  That,  in the opinion  of 
this  House,  the  Fair  Wages  Clause  in  Government 
contracts should  be  so amended  as  to provide that the 
contractor shall, under penalty, pay to all the workmen 

FERMOY  U R B AN  DISTRICT  G AS   [Lords'] ;  Report, That 
the  Bill  should  originate  in the  House  of  Lords,  9. 
Report, Standing Orders certified  to have been  complied 
with,  12. 

F E US  and  B U I L D I NG  LEASES   (Scotland);  Bill  to amend 
the  Law relating  to  Feus  and  Leases  for  Building  in 
Scotland;  presented, and  ordered  to  be read a second 
time, 49.  Second Reading deferred, 66, 78. 

FINANCE  ACCOUNTS.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FINANCE  BILL.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FINANC E  ;  Bill  to grant  certain duties  of  Customs and 
Inland  Revenue  (including  Excise),  to  alter  other 
duties, and  to amend the Law relating  to  Customs and 
Inland  Revenue  (including  Excise)  and the  National 
Debt,  and  to make other  provisions  for  the  financial 
arrangements  of  the  year;  ordered  to  be  brought 
in  (26th  May)  upon  Resolutions  of  the Committee 
of  Ways  and Means reported  and  agreed  to  by the 
House  on the  24th  and  25th  May,  and  upon Reso­
lutions  reported  and  agreed  to  on  the  26th  May ; 
presented  accordingly,  and  read  the first time,  203. 
Motion, That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second time ;
Amendment  proposed,  "  three  monthsDebate  ad­
journed, 211.  Resumed, and Debate further adjourned, 
214,  216.  Petition  presented  by  the  Lord  Mayor of 
Dublin at the Bar, for alteration  of  the Bill, 217.  Pro­
ceedings  on the  Bill  to  have  precedence  this  day  of 
Supply ;  adjourned  Debate  resumed ;  Question  put; 
Amendment,  on Division,  not made ;  Main Question put, 
and agreed to;  Bill  read a second time, and  committed 
to  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  219.  Considered 
in Committee ; Questions put, pursuant to Standing Order 
(Closure  of  Debate), 242.  Considered  in Committee; 
Question put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order (Closure  of 
Debate),  246.  No  Tellers  for  the  Noes  in  two  Divi­
sions,  246.  Considered  in  Committee;  Questions  put, 
pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  249, 
258.  Considered  in Committee;  Questions put, pursuant 
to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate);  proceeding 
postponed  at  8.15;  resumed,  263-4.  Considered  in 
Committee ;  Questions  put,  pursuant to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate);  Closure  claimed,  assent  with­
held  (twice);  Member  requested  to  discontinue his 
speech, 267.  Considered  in Committee, 277.  Questions 
put, pursuant to  Standing  Order (Closure  of  Debate), 
278, 279.  Closure claimed, but Chairman withholds his 
assent,  278.  Chairman  declines  to  propose Question 
(abuse  of  Rules),  279.  Considered  in  Committee,  and 
proceeding postponed  at 8.15,  283.  Resumed  ; Progress 
284.  Considered  in  Committee,  286.  Considered  in 
Committee;  Chairman puts Question forthwith (abuse 
of  Rules),  295.  Questions  put,,  pursuant  to  Standing 
Order  (Closure  of Debate),  295-6.  Considered  in Com­
mittee ;  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate);  proceeding  postponed  at  8.15, 













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300.  Resumed,  300.  Progress,  302.  Considered   in 
Committee;  Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld;  Chair­
man  calls  attention  to  disorderly  conduct  of  a  Member, 
and  directs  him  to  withdraw  [entry  expunged  from  the 
Journal,  311].  Questions  put,  pursuant   to  Standing 
Order  (Closure   of  Debate)  (five times),  303-5.  Chair­
man  declines  to  propose  Question  (abuse  of  Rules), 
305.  Considered  in  Committee;  Chairman  declines  to 
propose  Question 
(abuse  of  Rules)  ;  Questions  put, 
pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate)  (five 
times),  313-15.  Considered 
in  Committee;  Closure 
claimed,  assent  withheld;  Motion  for Progress  negatived 
on  Division  ;  Questions  put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate)  (six  times),  319-22.  Committee 
deferred,  332,  350.  Bill  considered  
in  Committee, 
Questions  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of 
Debate) 
(four  times),  364,  Closure  claimed,  assent 
withheld,  365.  Chair  empowered  to select  Amendments 
(three times), 365.  Considered in  Committee  ;  Question 
put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate)  ; 
Closure  claimed,  assent withheld;  Reason  given;  Chair 
empowered  to  select  Amendments,  369.  Considered   in 
Committee  ;  Questions  put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order 
(Closure ofDebate)  (five  times) ;  Closure  claimed, assent 
withheld;  Question  put,  pursuant   to  Standing  Order 
(Closure of  Debate);  Chair empowered  to select Amend­
ments, 370-3.  Considered in  Committee  ;  Questions  put, 
pursuant to  Standing  Order (Closure of  Debate)  (twice) ; 
(twice)  ;  Chair 
assent  withheld 
Closure  claimed, 
•  empowered  to  select  Amendments,  374-6.	  Proceedings 
on  Clause  14 not to be  interrupted  at  Five  or  half-past 
Five of  tbe  clock,  378.  Bill considered   in  Committee; 
Chair  empowered  to  select  Amendments,  379.  Con­
sidered in Committee  ;  Questions  put,  pursuant  to  Stand-
ding  Order  (Closure   of  Debate)  (three  times);  Main 
Question  (twice)  ;  Chair  empowered   to  select  Amend­
ments  (twice),  385-6.  Considered   in  Committee,  389. 
Committee  deferred,  417.  Considered  in  Committee, 
418.  Considered 
in  Committee;  Motion,  That  the 
Chairman  do  report Progress,  negatived on.Division, 421. 
Considered  in  Committee  ;  Questions  put,  pursuant  to 
Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate)  (three  times),  422. 
Considered  in  Committee;  Closure  claimed,  assent  with­
held  ;  Motion  for Progress  negatived  on  Division  ;  Ques­
tions put, pursuant to  Standing Order  (Closure of  Debate) 
(five times), 425-7.  Considered   in Committee, 429.  Con­
sidered  in  Committee  ;  Question  put, pursuant to  Stand­
ing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate),  430.  Considered  in 
Committee;  Questions  put, pursuant   to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate)  (twice),  435.  Considered   in  Com­
mittee ;  Motion  for  Progress withdrawn;  Closure claimed, 
assent  withheld,  438.  Considered  in  Committee  ;  Ques­
tion put, pursuant to Standing  Order (Closure  ofDebate); 
Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld,  447-8.  Considered 
in  Committee,  449,  452.  Considered  in  Committee; 
Questions  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of 
Debate) (three times), 455-7.  Considered  in Committee  ; 
Chairman  declines  to propose  Question  (abuse  of  Rules) 
(twice);  Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld;  Question 
put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate), 
Instruction  to  Committee  on  the  Bill  to  make 
458. 
provision  therein  pursuant  to  Resolutions  reported  from 
Committee  of  W a y  s  and  Means,  461.  Considered  in 
Committee ;  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate),  461,  463.  Considered   in  Com­
in  Committee; 
mittee,  466,  469,  471.  Considered 
Schedule  amended;  Question  put,  pursuant   to  Standing 
Order (Closure of  Debate)  ; Chairman  rules  Amendment 
out  of  order, 473.  Considered  in  Committee;  Amend­
ments proposed  to  Schedule  not  made  ;  Closure  claimed  ; 
assent  withheld  ;  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing 
Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  474.  Considered  in  Com­
mittee ;  Schedules agreed  t o  ;  amended,  and  agreed  to  ; 
Bill  to  be  reported,  476-8.  Order  for  consideration,   as 

amended, read;  Motion,  That the Bill   be  recommitted  in 
respect  of  Part  I .  ;  Question  negatived  on  Division; 
Bill  considered  ;  Amendments  made;  further  considera­
tion  adjourned,  489.   As  amended,  further  considered 
(Message  by  Black  Bod),  491.   A s  amended,  further 
considered,  494.   A s  amended,  further  considered,  498. 
A s  amended,  further  considered,  500.   As  amended, 
further  considered  ;  Amendments  to  proposed  Amend­
ments,  as  amended,  made,  not  made,  and  withdrawn, 
502-4.  As  amended,  further  considered,  505,  509.   As 
amended,  further  considered  ;  day  appointed  for  Third 
Reading;  and  to be  printed,  511.  Motion,  That  the  Bill 
be  now  read  the  third  time;  Amendment  proposed, 
"three  months;"  Debate  adjourned,  524.  Resumed, 
and  further  adjonrned,  526.  Resumed;  Question  put; 
Amendment,  on  Division,  not  made;  Bill  read  the  third 
time  and passed,  528. 

F I N A N CE  B I LL   (Charges on Property).  Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

F I N A N CE  [Consolidated  Fund];  Motion  for  the  House  to 
resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  of  authorising 
the  payment,  out   of  the  Consolidated  Fund,  of  such 
sums  as  may  be  payable  under  any  Act   of  the  present 
Session  relating  to  Finance,  and  of  authorising  the 
payment  into  the  Exchequer   of  certain  duties  now 
payable  to  County  Councils;  King's  Recommendation 
signified, 418.  Committee  deferred,  425,  432, 436,  442, 
448.  Matter  considered  in  Committee;  one  Resolution 
withdrawn,  454.  Report   of  Resolutions  [22nd  Septem­
ber]  deferred,  457.  Matter  considered   in  Committee 
[23rd  September];  one  Resolution  withdrawn,  other 
Resolutions  to  be  reported,  457.  Resolutions  [22nd 
September]  reported;  First  Resolution  read  a  second 
time,  and  agreed  to  on  Division  ;  Second  Resolution 
agreed  to, 458.  Resolutions  [23rd  September]  reported, 
and  agreed  to,  458.  Matter  considered  in  Committee 
[27th  September],  461.  Resolution  [27th  September] 
agreed  to, 463. 

F I N A N CE  [Expenses]  [Consolidated  Fund] ;  Motion 

for 

the  House  to  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider 
of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of  moneys  provided   by 
Parliament, of  any  expenses  or  remuneration  payable  in 
connection  with  any  valuation  of  land  or  premises  for 
the  purposes  of  any  duty  charged  under  any  Act   of  the 
present  Session  relating  to  Finance,  and  of  authorising 
the  payment, out  of  the Consolidated  Fund,  of  such sum» 
as  may  be  chargeable  under  such  A c t;  King's  Recom­
mendation  signified,  342.  Committee deferred,  345,351, 
357,  359,  367.  Matter  considered   in  Committee,  370. 
Report  deferred,  374.  Resolution  reported;  Motion, 
That  this  House  doth  agree  with  the  Committee   in  the 
said  Resolution,  and  Question  put,  pursuant to  Standing 
Order  (Closure   of Debate),  and  agreed  to,  384. 

F I N A N C I AL  STATEMENT  ( 1 9 0 9 - 1 0 ).   Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

F I N A N C I AL  STATEMENT,  1 9 0 9 - 10 

(E s t i m a t ed  Yield 

of 

proposed  Taxation).  Yide   ACCOUNTS. 

F I N A N C I AL  S T A T E M E N T,  1 9 0 9 - 10 

(R e v i s ed 

Estimated 

Yield of proposed  Taxation).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

F I N E S,  &C.  (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FIREARMS  (Scotland  and  Ireland);  Bill  to  regulate  the 
sale  Of  Firearms  in  Scotland  and  Ireland  ;  presented, and 
ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  205.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  217,  231,  244,  261. 

F I RE  INQUESTS   ;  Bill  to  provide  for  the  holding  of  Fire 
Inquests;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a  second 
time,  84.  Second  Reading  deferred,  120,  149. 

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FISCAL  REFORM.   Vide  KING'S  SPEECH  

(Motion  for  


F R I M L EY  a nd  FARNBOROUGH  DISTRICT  W A T ER 

[Lords];

an Address). 


FISHERIES  (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FISHERIES  (Ireland)  [Expenses] ;  Motion  for  the  House  

to  resolve  itself into  a  Committee   to  consider  of  autho­
rising  the  payment,  out  of  moneys  to  be  provided  by  

Parliament, of  any  expenses  incurred by  the  Department  

for  Agriculture  and  Technical  Instruction,  Ireland,   in  

pursuance  of  any  A ct   of  the  present  Session  to  amend  

the  Fisheries  (Ireland)  Acts,  1842   to  1901  ;  King's 
Recommendation  signified, 404.  Matter  considered   in  

Committee, 408.  Resolution reported, and agreed  to, 410. 


FISHERIES  (Ireland); Bill to amend the Fisheries  (Ireland) 
Acts,  1842  to  1901;  presented,  and ordered  to  be  read  a 
second  time,  226.  Second  Reading  deferred,  246,  260, 
280,  297,  316,  332,  350,  367,  383,  397,  400.  Read  a 
second  time;  Bill  committed   to  a  Committee  of  the 
whole  House,  403.  Committee  deferred, 406, 408,  409. 
Considered  in  Committee,  and  reported,  410.  Con­
sidered,  as  amended;  read  the  third  time,  and  passed, 
413.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment, 
494. 
(Cited  as  Fisheries (Ireland)  Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  539. 

F I S H E RY  BOARD   (Scotland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FLEETS  (Great  Britain  and  Foreign  Countries).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 


FOLKESTONE,  SANDGATE,   and  H Y T HE  T R A M W A Y S;   Bill 
read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners, 
14.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired 
into  complied  with,  31.  Read  a  second  time,  and  com­
mitted, 43.  Reported, with  Amendments  (Title  amended), 
225.  Considered,  as  amended,  241.  Read  the  third 
time  and  passed, 251.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without 
Amendment,  318. 
Hytke  Tramways  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited  as  Folkestone,  Sandgate,  and 

FOREIGN  and  COLONIAL  M E AT   ;  Bill  to  provide  that  all 
sellers of  Meat  who  sell  foreign  or  colonial  Meat  only,  or 
in  addition  to  Meat  from  animals  reared  and  fed  in  the 
United  Kingdom, shall  have  a notice  to that effect plainly 
written on their shops, and on the  vehicles  which  they  use 
for  selling  their  goods;  presented, and  ordered   to  be  read 
a  second  time,  164.  Second  Reading  deferred, 237,  247, 
264,  285,  309. 

FOREIGN  COUNTRIES   (Preference  to  Colonies).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

FOREIGN  JURISDICTION  A C T,  1 8 9 0.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FOREIGN  TRADE   and  COMMERCE.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FOREIGN  TRAWLERS   (Regulation);  Bill  to  provide 

for 
the  better  prevention  of  fishing  by  Foreign  Trawl 
Vessels  within  areas  closed  to  British  Trawl  Vessels; 
presented,  and  ordered  to be  read  a second  time,  91. 

FORESHORES.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FORFAR  COUNTY  " W R I T.   Vide  ELECTIONS. 

FRANCHISE  a nd  R E M O V AL   o f  WOMEN'S  DISABILITIES  ;  

Bill  to  establish  a  single  Franchise  at all  Elections,  and  

thereby  to  abolish  University  representation  and  to 
remove  the  Disabilities  of  Women  ;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  19.  Second  Reading  

deferred,  68,  81,  101,  105.  


FRENCH  CUSTOMS  T A R I F F.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

F R I E N D LY 

SOCIETIES,  WORKMEN'S  COMPENSATION 
SCHEMES,  INDUSTRIAL  a nd  PROVIDENT  SOCIETIES, 
and  T R A DE  UNIONS.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

Report,  That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the  House  of 
Lords,  9.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified   to  have 
been  complied  with,  12.  Brought from  the  Lords ;  read 
the 
first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  122. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
complied  with,  136.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  com­
mitted,  150. 
Instruction  to  the  Committee,  159.  Re­
ported,  with  Amendments,  270.  Considered, as  amended, 
285.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed, with  Amendments, 
( Cited as  Frimley
293.   To  which  the  Lords  agree, 303. 
and Farnborough District Water Act, 1909)  Royal  Assent, 
381. 

F R U IT  GROWERS   (Scotland);  Bill  to  give 

increased 

security  of  tenure  to  Fruit  Growers  in  Scotland;  pre­
sented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  26. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  31,  56,  61,  88,  101.  


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G A M B L I NG  

in  OPTIONS  (Prohibition); Bill  to  pro­

hibit  Gambling  in  Futures  and  Options  in  produce, 
metals,  and shares ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second  time,  166.  Second  Reading  deferred,  215, 220. 

G AS 

a nd  W A T ER  ORDERS  CONFIRMATION 

[ .L o r d s ]; 

Bill,  intituled   A n  A ct   to  confirm  certain  Provisional 
Orders  made  by  the  Board  of  Trade  under  the  Gas  and 
Water  Works  Facilities  Act,  1870,  relating   to  Coat­
bridge  Gas,  Llynvi  Valley  Gas,  Bradfield  Water, 
Gravesend  and  Milton  Water,  and  Hungerford  Water  ; 
brought from the  Lords  ;  read  the  first  time,  and referred 
to  the  Examiners,  322.  Order,  That  so much  of  Stand­
ing  Order  73  as  provides  that  notice   of  the  day  on 
which  a  Provisional  Order  Bill  will   be  examined,  &c. 
suspended,  339.  Examiners  report  Standing  Orders 
applicable  thereto  complied  with, 341.  Bill read a second 
time,  and  committed,  344.  Bill  reported,  with  Amend­
ments ;  Provisional  Orders  confirmed;  day  appointed  for 
consideration, as amended, 374.  Considered,  as  amended, 
378.  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amend­
ments,  379.   To  which  the  Lords  agree,  414. 
Gas  and Water  Orders  Confirmation  Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  446. 

(Cited as 

G AS  and  W A T ER  ORDERS.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

G AS  and  W A T ER  W O R KS  F A C I L I T I ES  A C T,  1 8 7 0.   Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

G AS  L I G HT   and  C O KE  COMPANY   ;  Bill read the first time, 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  14.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  39. 
Bill  read  a  second  time, and  committed,  45.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  94.  Day  appointed  for  consideration, 
106.  Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  111,  125, 
139,144.  Considered,  as amended, 164.  Day  appointed 
for  Third  Reading,  168.  Third  Reading  deferred,  182, 
208,  213.  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  the  third 
time  ;  Amendment,  "  three  months,"  proposed,  and,  on 
Division,  not made ;  Bill  read  the third  time,  and  passed, 
236.  Agreed  to by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  358. 
Lords'  Amendments  (pursuant   to  Order)  agreed  to,  360. 
(Cited  as  Gas  Light  and  Coke  Companies  Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  382. 

G AS  ORDERS  CONFIRMATION   (NO.  1)  [Lords];  Bill, 
intituled  An  Act  to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders 
made  by  the  Board of  Trade  under  the  Gas  and  Water 
Works  Facilities  Act,  1870,  relating   to  Bideford  Gas, 
Bude  Gas,  Comber  Gas,  Compstall  Gas,  and  Hayfield 
Gas;  brought  from  the Lords,  196.  Read  the first time, 
and referred  to  the  Examiners,  197.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  applicable  thereto  complied  with,  234.  Read  a 



















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time,  and  committed,  238.  Reported,  with 

second 
Amendments;  Provisional  Orders  confirmed, 289.  Con­
sidered,  as  amended,  292.  Bill  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  with  Amendments,  294.   To  which  the  Lords 
agree,  312. 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited  as  Gas  Orders Confirmation  (No.  1) 

G AS  ORDERS  CONFIRMATION  

(NO.   2 ) 

;  Bill, 
intituled   A n  A ct   to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders 
made  by  the  Board  of  Trade  under  the  Gas  and  Water 
Works  Facilities Act,  1870, relating   to  B rough,  Ellough­
ton,  and  District  Gas,  Langley  Mill  and  Heanor  Gas, 
Long  Eaton  Gas,  Settle  Gas,  and  Sutton  and  Hooton 
District  Gas  ;  brought  from  the  Lords,  196.  Read  the 
first  time, and  referred to  the  Examiners,  197.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  applicable  thereto  complied  with,  234. 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  238.  Bill 
reported,  with  Amendments  ;  Provisional  Orders  con­
firmed,  -270.  Considered,  as  amended,  274.  Read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments,  276.   To 
which  the  Lords  agree,  295. 
(Cited  as  Gas  Orders 
Confirmation  (No.  2)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 381. 

G AS  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS   (changed  to  Gas  Provisional 
Order)  ;  Bill   to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders 
made  by  the  Board   of  Trade  under  the  Gas  and  Water 
Works  Facilities  Act,  1870, relating   to  Prestatyn  Gas 
and  Fermoy  Gas  ;  presented;  read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  125.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  applicable  thereto  complied  with,  149.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  155,  159.  Read  a  second  time,  and 
committed  ;  Standing  Order  208a  suspended,  and  an 
Instruction  to  the  Committee  of  Selection  to  refer  part 
of  the  Bill  to  the  Local  Legislation  Committee,  162. 
Changed  to  Gas  Provisional  Order  Bill,  248.  Part   of 
the  Bill  as  relates  to  the  Prestatyn  Gas  Order  referred 
to  the  Local  Legislation  Committee,  pursuant   to  the 
Instruction  of  the  House  ;  said  Order  not  confirmed, 
remaining  Order  confirmed;  Bill  reported,  with  Amend­
ments,  and  an  amended  Title,  249.  Considered,  as 
amended,  251.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  257. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  318.  Day 
appointed  for  considering  them,  319.  Lords'  Amend­
ments  agreed  to,  322. 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited as  Gas Provisional  Order 

G AS  UNDERTAKINGS.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

G AS 

UNDERTAKINGS  

(Local  Authorities). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

GATESHEAD  and  DISTRICT  T R A M W A YS   [Lords] ;  Report, 
That  the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of Lords,  9. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied 
with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords,  196.  Read  the 
first time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  197.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  210.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  221. 
Second  R e a d i ng  deferred,  224,  234,  241,  251,  257,  269, 
276.  Bill  read  a  second time,  and  committed,  283.  Bill 
reported,  with  Amendments,  331.  Considered,  as 
amended;  Standing  Orders  223  and  243  suspended; 
Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed, with  Amendments, 
(Cited as  Gates­
346.   To  which  the  Lords  agree,  361. 
head and District Tramways  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
381. 

GENERAL  LIGHTHOUSE  F U N D.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

G E N E R AL  PRISONS  (Ireland)  A C T,  1 8 7 7,  a nd  t he  P R E­
VENTION  of  CRIME  A C T,   1908.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

GLAMORGAN  W A T ER  BOARD   ;  Bill  read  the first time, and 
ordered to be  read  a second  time,  14.  Day  appointed for 
Second  Reading,  23.  Second  Reading  deferred, 25,  40, 

VOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909. 

47, 49,  57,  65,  67.  Read  a second  time,  and  committed, 
Instruction  to  the  Committee,  75.  Attendance 
74. 
of  Witness  ordered,  148,  176.  Bill  reported,  with 
Amendments,  197.  Considered,  as amended, 217.  Day 
appointed  for  Third  Reading,  232.  Third  Reading 
deferred,  234,  245,  251,  257.  Motion,  That  the  Bill 
be  now  read  the  third  time;  Amendment  proposed, 
"three  months,"  withdrawn  ;  Main  Question  put;  Bill 
read  the  third  time  and  passed,  263. 

GLASGOW  BURGH  

(Central  Division)  W R I T.  

Vide 

ELECTIONS. 

GLASGOW  CORPORATION 

[Lords] 

(substituted  Bill);
Report  under  the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scot­
land)  Act,  1899,  That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the 
House of  Lords, 30.  Report,  Standing  Orders certified   to 
have  been  complied  with,  56.  Brought  from the  Lords; 
read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the Examiners,  303. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
not  complied  with,  referred   to  the  Select  Committee  on 
Standing  Orders,  333.  Report,  Standing  Orders  ought 
to  be  dispensed  with  ;  Resolution  reported  from  Select 
Committee  on  Standing  Orders  read;  Bill   to  be  read 
a  second  time,  358.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed  ;  Standing  Orders  211  and  236  suspended; 
Committee  to  sit  and  proceed  on  day  named,  363.  Bill 
reported,  with  Amendments,  374. 
Considered,  as 
amended,  395.  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
with  Amendments,  404.   To  which  the  Lords agree, 435. 
(Cited as  Glasgow  Corporation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
447. 

GLASGOW  HOSPITAL 

f or 

SKIN  DISEASES  O R D ER 
CONFIRMATION  ;  Bill  to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order 
under  the  Private  Legislation  Procedure 
(Scotland) 
Act,  1899,  relating   to  the  Glasgow  Hospital  for  Skin 
Diseases  ;  presented,  and  ordered  (under  Section  7   of 
the  A c t)   to  be  considered,  224,  Considered,  234.  Read 
the  third  time  and passed, 241.  Agreed   to by  the  Lords, 
without  Amendment,  270. 
(Cited as Glasgow  Hospital 
for  Skin Diseases  Order Confirmation  Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  380. 

G O D F R AY  H U GH  

».  H A R RY  D A V I ES   ;  a  Petition  of 
Messrs.  Helder  Roberts  and  Company  read, &c.,  praying 
for  leave  for  the  proper  Officer  of  the  House  to  attend 
hearing  and  produce  Document,  &c.;  leave  given,  34. 

GOVERNMENT 
ACCOUNTS. 

GOVERNMENT 
ACCOUNTS. 

GOVERNMENT 
ACCOUNTS. 

GOVERNMENT 
ACCOUNTS. 

DEPARTMENTS  

(Contracts). 

Vide 

DEPARTMENTS  

(Securities). 

Vide 

DEPARTMENTS  

(Ireland). 

Vide 

INSURANCES   and  A N N U I T I E S. 

Vide 

GOVERNMENT  L A B O R A T O R Y.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

GOVERNMENT  of  I N D I A.  Vide  KING'S  SPEECH   (Motion

for  an  Address). 

GRANTHAM  W A T ER   [Lords]  ;  Report,  That  the  Bill 
should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  9.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with, 
12.  Brought  from  the  Lords;  read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  122.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  136. 
Bill  read  a second  time  and  committed,  150.  Reported, 
with.  Amendments,  180.  Considered,  as  amended  ; 
Amendments  made,  206.  Read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  with  Amendments,  210.   T o  which  the  Lords 
agree,  258. 
Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited as Grantham  Waterworks  Act,  1909) 

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VOLUME. 

634 

G R E AT  CENTRAL  R A I L W A Y.   Vide  G R E AT  NORTHERN, 

&c. 

GREAT  CENTRAL  R A I L W AY  

(Various  Potoers)  ;  Bill 

Amendments  (pursuant  to  Order)  agreed  to, 358. 
(Cited 
as Great Western Railway (General  Powers) Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  381. 

read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  14.  GREAT  WESTERN  RAILWAY  (Steam  Vessels) 
[Lords];
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
Report,  That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the  House  of 
complied  with,  27.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading, 
Lords, 9.  Report, Standing  Orders certified   to  have  been 
36,  Second  Reading  deferred, 40,  52.  Read  a  second 
complied  with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords;  read  the 
time,  and  committed,  61.  Reported,  with  Amendments, 
first  time, and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  143.  Report, 
131.  Considered,  as  amended,  142.  King's  Consent 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
signified  ;  Bill  read  the  third 
time  and  passed,  150. 
with,  149.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  168. 
Agreed  to by  the  Lords, with  Amendments,  353.  Lords' 
Second  Reading  deferred,  172,  182,  208,  213.  Motion, 
(pursuant  to  Order)  agreed  to,  358. 
Amendments 
That  the Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time;  Amendment 
( Cited as Great Central  Railway  ( Various  Powers)  Act,  proposed,  "  three  months,"  and,  on  Division,  not  made, 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 
Bill  read  a second  time,  and  committed,  236.  Reported, 
with  Amendments  ;  Title  amended,  266.  Considered, as 
amended,  276.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with 
Amendments,  288.   To  which  the  Lords  agree,  300. 
(Cited  as  Great  Western Railway  (Steam  Vessels)  Act, 
1909) Royal  Assent,  381. 

G R E AT  EASTERN  R A I L W A Y.   Vide  G R E AT  NORTHERN, 

&o. 

' 

from 

Report, 

G R E AT  NORTHERN,  G R E AT  CENTRAL,  a nd  G R E AT 
EASTERN  R A I L W A Y S;   Bill  read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the Examiners, 14.  Report,  Standing  Orders 
not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  27,  Day 
appointed  for  Second  Reading,  33.  Report  from  the 
Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  on  Petition 
for  dispensing  with  Standing  Order  128,  That  the 
Standing  Order  ought  to  be  dispensed  with,  34.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  36. 
the  Select 
Committee  on  Standing Orders, on  Petition for  dispensing 
with  Standing  Order  128  in  the  case  of  the  Petition 
against  the  Bill,  That  the  Standing  Order  ought   to  be 
dispensed  with,  45.  Second  Reading  deferred,  49,  57, 
80.  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be now  read  a  second  time ; 
Amendment  proposed,  "  six  months,"  and,  on  Motion 
Debate  adjourned, 92,  Resumed;  Amendment  not  made 
on  Division;  Bill  read  a  second  time;  Motion   to 
commit  Bill  to  a  Select  Committee  of  Nine  Members, 
Five   to  be  nominated  by  the  House  and  Four   by  the 
Committee  of  Selection,  and  it  being  after  Eleven,  and 
objection  taken,  Debate  adjourned,  100.  Resumed; 
Amendments  made  ;  Main  Question;  so  amended, agreed 
to  ;  Bill  committed  to a  Committee  of  Fifteen  Members, 
Eight  nominated   by  the  House,  Seven   by  Committee 
of  Selection;  power  to  send  for  persons,  papers,  and 
records ;  Nine  quorum,  103.  Motion  for   an  Instruction 
to  the  Committee;  Amendment  proposed,   to 
insert 
words;  Amendment  proposed   to  proposed  Amendment, 
to  add  words  at the  end  of  proposed  Amendment,  agreed 
to,;  words,  as  amended,  inserted  on  Division  ;  Main 
Question,  so  amended,  agreed 
Instruction,  &c., 
103-4.  Order  for  committal   to  a  Select  Committee 
discharged;  Bill  withdrawn,  121. 

t o; 

G R E AT  YARMOUTH  CORPORATION  

[Lords] ;  Report, 
That  the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  9. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied 
with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords  ;  read  the  first  time, 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  115.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  121. 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  136,  Bill 
reported,  with  Amendments  ;  Title  amended,  225. 
Considered,  as  amended,  294.  Read  the  third time  and 
passed,  with  Amendments,  306.   To  which  the  Lords 
agree,  319. 
Drainage) Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited  as  Great  Yarmouth  (Burgh Castle 

G R E EK  L O A N.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Section  B),  with  Amendments,  2i 16.  Day 

GREENOCK  CORPORATION   ;  Bill  read  the  first  time,  and  

ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  14.  Read  a  second  

time,  and 
committed,  23.  Attendance   of  Witness 
ordered,  87.  Reported  from  Local  Legislation  Com­
mittee 
appointed  for  consideration,  as  amended,  238.  Con­
sideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  241,  251,  257.  Con­
sidered,  as  amended;  Standing  Orders  223  and  243  

suspended  ;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  263.  

Agreed 
the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  361. 
Lords'  Amendments  (pursuant  to  Order)  agreed  to,  363.  

(Cited  as  Greenock  Corporation Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  382. 

to  by 

GREENWICH  HOSPITAL  ;   Resolution,  That  the  Statement 
of  the  estimated  Income  and  Expenditure   of  Greenwich 
Hospital,  and  of  Travers'  Foundation,  for  the  year 
1909-10,  be  approved,  509. 

G R E AT  N O R TH   o f  SCOTLAND  R A I L W AY  ORDER  C O N­

G R E E N W I CH  HOSPITAL  A C T,  1865.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

FIRMATION  ;  Bill  to  confirm a  Provisional  Order  under 
the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, 
relating  to  the  Great  North  of  Scotland  Railway; 
presented,  and  ordered  (under  Section  7  of  the  A c t) 
to  be  considered,  245.  Considered,  251.  Read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  257.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords, 
GROCERS'  LICENCES   (Abolition);  Bill  to  amend  the  Law 
(Cited  as  Great  North  of 
without  Amendment,  286. 
Scotland  Railway Order  Confirmation  Act,  1909)  Royal  with  respect to the  grant  or  renewal  of  Licences  for  the 
sale  of  beer,  wine,  and  spirits,  to  be  consumed  off  the 
Assent,  381. 
premises  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to be  read  a  second 
time,  61.  Second  Reading  deferred,  88,  113. 

GREENWICH  OBSERVATORY.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

GREENWICH  HOSPITAL  a nd  TRAVERS'  FOUNDATION. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

G R E AT  W E S T E RN  R A I L W AY   (General  Powers)',  Bill 
read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  14. 
Report 
from  the  Select  Committee   on  Standing 
Orders,  on  petition  for  dispensing  with  Standing  Order 
128, That the Standing  Order ought  to  be  dispensed  with, 
34.  Examiners  report  Standing  Orders  not  previously 
inquired  into  complied  with,  64.  Day  appointed  for 
Second  Reading,  82.  Second  Reading  deferred,  84, 
111,  119,  121,  131.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and 
Committed,  ,l46i  Reported,  with  Amendments,  248. 
Considered,  as  amended,  262.  King's  Consent  signi­
fied ;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and passed,  273.  Agreed 
Lords' 
to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  353. 

9 Edw.  VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess.  4.  1909, 

H A M I L T ON   BURGH  ORDER  CONFIRMATION   [Lords];
Bill,  intituled   An  A ct   to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order 
under  the  Private Legislation Procedure  ( Scotland)  Act, 
1899,  relating  to  Hamilton  Burgh  ;  brought  from  the 
Lords,  and  ordered  (under  Section  7   of  the  Act)  to  be 
considered,  452.  Considered,  455.  Bill  read  the  third 
(Cited as 
time  and  passed,  without  Amendment,  460. 
Hamilton Burgh  Order  Confirmation  Acti  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  491. 

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H A N D L O OM  W E A V I NG   ;  Bill  to  protect  the  interests  of 
Handloom Weavers, and for other purposes   in  connection 
therewith  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  19.  Second  Reading  deferred,  68,  81,  97.  Day 
appointed  for  Second  Reading,  122.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  135,  149.  Read  a second  time,  and  committed 
to  a  Standing  Committee,  167.   B,  172.  Member  dis­
charged,  another  appointed  ;  Fifteen  Members  added   to 
the  Committee,  177.  Bill  reported,  with  Amendments, 
232,  Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  246,  256, 
281,  317.  Bill  considered,  as amended;  read  the  third 
time  and  passed,  329.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without 
Amendment,  472. 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  491. 

(Cited  as  Irish  Handloom  Weavers 

H A R R O G A TE  G AS   ;  Bill  read  the  first  time,  and  referred 
to  the  Examiners,  14.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not 
previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  43.  Read  a 
second  time, and committed, 57.  Reported, with  Amend­
ments,  163.  Considered,  as  amended,  172.  King's 
Consent  signified ;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
184.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  277. 
Lords'  Amendments  agreed  to,  292  (Cited  as   Harrogate
Gas Act,  1909) Royal  Assent,  381. 

H A R W I CH  DOCKS   ;  Bill  read  the first time,  and  ordered  to 
be  read  a  second  time,  14.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  30.  Second  Reading  deferred,  52,  79,  93. 
Order  for  Second  Reading   on  future  day  discharged  ; 
Bill  withdrawn,  98. 

H A R W I CH  H A R B O U R.   Vide  A C C O U N T S. 

HASTINGS  H A R B O U R;   Bill  read  the  first  time,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  14.  Read  a  second 
time,  and committed,  23.  Reported,  with  Amendments, 
53.  Considered,  as  amended,  60.  King's  Consent 
signified;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  67. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  141. 
(Cited  as  Hastings Harbour Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
192. 

H A W I CK  DISTRICT   of  BURGHS  W R I T.   Vide  E L E C­

TIONS. 

H E A L TH  RESORTS   (Ireland);  Bill  to  empower 

local 
authorities  in  Ireland  to  strike a  rate  to  defray  the  cost 
of  advertising  local  Health  Resorts;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be read  a  second  time, 415.  Bill  withdrawn, 
463. 

H E A L TH  RESORTS  a nd  W A T E R I N G^  P L A C ES 

(Ireland)-,


Bill  to  empower  local  authorities  in  Ireland  to  strike  

a  rate  for  advertising  Health  Resorts  and  Watering  

Places;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  

time,  423.  Read  a  second  time;  Bill  committed   to 
a  C o m m i t t ee   of  the  whole  House,  465.  Committee 
deferred, 468,  470, 474.  Considered   in  Committee,  and  

reported,  475.  Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred, 
479.  Considered,  as amended ;  Bill  read  the  third  time 
and  passed,  482.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with  an 
Amendment,  504.  Lords'  Amendment  considered,  and 
agreed  to,  526. 
( Cited  as Health Resorts  and Watering 

"  Places  (Ireland)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  539. 

H E C K M O N D W I KE  a nd  L I V E R S E D GE  G AS 

[Lords]; 

R e­

port,  That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the  House  of 
Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified   to  have 
been  complied  with,  12.  Bill  brought  from  the  Lords, 
90.  Read  the  first  time,  and referred  to  the  Examiners, 
91!  Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired 
into  complied  with,  97.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed,  107.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  132. 
Considered,  as amended,  148.  Read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  with  Amendments,  155.  To  which  the  Lords 
aoree  163. 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192. 

H E Y W Q OD  CORPORATION   ;  Bill  read  the  first  time,  and 
ordered to be read a  second time,  14.  Read a second time, 
and  committed, 25.  Attendance of  Witness  ordered, 252. 
Reported,  with Amendments, from  the  Local  Legislation 
Committee  (Section  B ),  302.  Considered,   as  amended  ; 
Standing  Orders  223  and  243  suspended;  King's  Con­
sent  signified;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  330. 
to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  361. 
Agreed 
Lords'  Amendments  (pursuant   to  Order)  agreed  to,  362. 
(Citedas  Heywood  Corporation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
382. 

HIGH  COURT   of  JUSTICE 

(King's  Bench  Division);

Resolution,  That it  is  expedient  that  a Select  Committee 
of  Five  Members   of  this  House   be  appointed  to  join 
with  a  Committee  of  the  Lords  to  consider  the  state   of 
Business  in  the  King's  Bench  Division   of  the  High 
Court,  and  report  thereon,  and  whether  any  increase   is 
desirable  in  the  number  of  Judges  of  that  Division, and 
to  make  such  recommendations  as they  see  fit;  Message 
to  acquaint  the  Lords  therewith,  273.  Message  from 
the  Lords  concurring  with  the  Resolution,  286.  Lords' 
Message concurring with the Commons in their Resolution 
considered;  Select  Committee   of  Five  Members  ap­
pointed  to join  with  a  Committee  to be  appointed  by  the 
Lords;  Message   to  the  Lords  to  acquaint  them  there­
with;  Five  Members  nominated;  power   to  send  for 
persons,  papers,  and  records ;  Three  to  be  the  quorum, 
291.  Message  from  the  Lords  appointing  a  Committee 
of  Five  Members  to join  with  a  Committee  of  the  Com­
mons  to  consider,  &c.,  313.  Message  from  the  Lords 
proposing  place  and  time  of  meeting,  322.  So much  of 
Lords'  Message  as relates  to  place  and  time  of  meeting 
considered;  Order,  That  the  Committee  appointed   by 
this  House  do  meet  the  Lords'  Committee  as  proposed 
by  the Lords ;  Message  to acquaint them  therewith,  322. 
Report,  546. 

H I GH  COURT   o f  JUSTICE  a nd  COURTS   o f  A P P E A L,  &C. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

HIGH  COURT   o f  JUSTICE 

(King's  Bench  Division) 

SITTINGS.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

H I G H W A Y S;   Bill  to  provide  for  the  establishment   of  a  

Highway  Commission  for  England  and  Wales,  and  for  

the  amendment  of  the  Laws  relating   to  Highways  and  

Bridges  in  England  and  Wales,  and  for  other  purposes  ;  

presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  130.  


HISTORICAL  MANUSCRIPTS   (Royal  Commission).  Vide 

A C C O U N T S. 

H O L Y W O OD  T R A M W A YS  ;  Bill  read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  14.  Report,  Standing  Orders 
not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  69.  Bill 
read  a second  time,  and  committed,  84.  Reported,  with 
Amendments,  180.  Considered,  as amended,  191.  Read 
the third  time and  passed,  205.  Agreed  to  by the  Lords, 
with  Amendments,  337.  Lords'  Amendments  agreed 
to,  346. 
(Cited  as  Holywood  Tramways  Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  381. 

H O PS  ;  Bill  to  prohibit  the  use  of  Hop  substitutes  in 
brewing,  and  the  importation  gf  Hops  except  in  bags 
properly  marked  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second  time, 21.  Order for  Second  Reading discharged  ; 
Bill  withdrawn,  26. 

H O PS  (No. 2) ;  Bill  to  prohibit  the  use  of  Hop  substitutes 
in  brewing, and  the  importation  of  Hops  except  in  bags 
properly  marked;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second  time,  29. 

HOSPITALS ;  Bill  to  empower  local  authorities  to  strike  a 
(Cited as Heckmondwike  and  Liversedge  Gas  rate  in  aid of  local  Hospitals ;  presented,  and  ordered  to 

be  read  a second  time,  415. 

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HOURS   of  L A B O UR  (Bakehouses);  Bill  to  restrict  the 
hours  in  Bakehouses  to  eight  hours  per  day,  and  not 
more  than  forty-eight  hours  per  week,  and to  regulate 
the  same;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  77.  Second Reading  deferred,  92,  116,  143.  Day 
appointed  for  Second  Reading,  163.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  178.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading, 
233.  Second  Reading  deferred,  250,  288.  Day  ap­
pointed  for  Second  Reading,  324.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  340. 

H O U RS   of  L A B O UR  (Surfacemen)-,  Bill  to  restrict  the 
hours of  labour  of  Surfacemen  at  collieries  called  upon 
to  work  seven  days  per  week  to  eight  hours  per  day  ; 
ordered  ;  presented  accordingly  ;  read  the first time, and 
day  appointed  for  Second Reading, 37.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  51,  56,  64,  78,  92,  101.  Day  appointed  for 
Second  Reading,  115.  Second  Reading  deferred,  119, 
125,  128,  134,  142,  143,  147,  158,  161,  165,  175,  179, 
183,  194,  201.  Day appointed  for  Second Reading,  214. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  247,  251,  254,  264,  268,  273, 
285,  288,  291,  309,  327,  335,  340,  352,  362,  377.  Day 
appointed  for  Second  Reading,  404. 

HOUSE  : 

Attends  His  Majesty  in  the  House  of  Peers 

at the  opening  of  the  Session,  3. 

Attends the Lords  Commissioners in  the  House 

of  Peers, 58, 88,  135,  192,  380, 446,  491, 539,  547. 

— - — -—  RESOLUTIONS  : 

That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday  next, 
resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  of  the  Supply 
to  be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  29.  Ways  and  Means, 
29. 

That  this House  do  now  adjourn, 20,  111,  208, 

221, &c. 

That  this  House  do now  adjourn  till  Monday, 

the  19th  April  (Easter),  107. 

—	 

That  this  House  do  now adjourn  till  Thursday, 
the  3rd  day  of  June  next  (Whitsuntide),  205.  Till 
to-morrow  at  Two,  547. 

—	 

That  this  House,  at  its  rising,  do  adjourn  till 
Monday  next,  363,  378.  Till  Monday the  18th  October, 
482.  Till  Tuesday  the  23rd  November,  529.  From 
Thursday,  25th  November, till Wednesday  1st  December,  

544. 

That  this  House  do  meet  at  a certain  hour,  


Twelve,  106,  198.  


.  Relative  to  Fair  Wages  Clause,  51.  Tariffs 
Retaliation  (amended),  88.  Payment   of  Members,  161.  

Military  Manoeuvres  A ct  (1897),  170.  Naval  Defence,  

Two-Power  Standard  (amended),  200.  High  Court   of  

Justice  (King's  Bench  Division)  (Joint  Committee), 
(Censorship)  (Joint  Committee), 
273.  Stage  Plays 
273.  Privilege 
(Intervention   of  Peers  at  Parlia­
mentary  Elections),  319.  Ardrossan  and  Belfast  Mail  

Service  (Contract),  432.  Scilly  Islands  Mail  Service  

(Contract),  432.  Greenwich  Hospital,  509.  


Of  the  unavoidable  absence  of  Mr.  Speaker 
indisposition),  39,  42,  43,  45,  49.  Other 

(through 
occasions,  388,  398, 401,  404,  434,  437. 

Petition  for  proper  Officer   of  the  House  to 

attend  a Trial,  34. 

Member  ordered  to withdraw immediately from 
the  House  ;  disorderly  conduct,  304.  Entry  relative 
thereto  expunged  from  the  Journals,  pursuant  to  the 
Order of  the  House, 311. 

Immediately  resolves  itself  into  a  Committee 

on  a Bill,  221. 

Meets  at  a certain  hour ;  Twelve  of  the  clock 

(Wednesday),  106.  Two   of  the  clock  (Friday,  Proroga­
tion),  547. 

ADJOURNMENTS  : 

—  Motions 

for  Adjournment,  and  Questions 

agreed  to,  9,  20,  107,  111, 208,  224,  234,  &c. 

Motion,  That  this  House  do  now  adjourn  ; 
Debate  arising,  and  it  being  half-past  Eleven   of  the 
clock,  Mr.  Speaker  adjourns  the  House without  Question 
put,  232. 

From  Friday  till  Monday,  20,  363,  378. 

From  Wednesday,  7th  April,  till  Monday, 

19th  April  (Easter),  107. 

From  Thursday,  27th  May,  till  Thursday, 

3rd  June  (Whitsuntide),  205. 

From  Friday,  8th  October, till  Monday,  18th 

October,  482. 

From  Friday,  5th  November,  till  Tuesday, 

23rd  November,  529. 

From  Thursday,  25th  November,  till  Wednes­

day,  1st  December,  544. 

Pursuant  to Order of  the  House,  379,  398,401, 
403,  407,  409,  411,  414,  417,  420,432,434,437,  443, 
445,  446,  452,  463,  465,  468,  470,  472,  475,  479,  482, 
486,  502,  509,  513,  523,  526,  527,  528,  530. 

Adjourned,  pursuant 
No.  3,  without  Question  put,  56,  69,  83,   &c 

to  Standing  Order 

Adjourned  without Question  put, it  being  half-

past  Eleven  of  the  clock,  191,  194,  220, &c, 

Adjourned  without  Question put, it  being  after 

half-past  Eleven  of the  clock,  22, 42,  159,  &c. 

H O U SE  C O U N T ED  OUT  : 

Counted,  and  Forty  Members  not  being 
present,  and  it  being  then  after  Four   of  the  clock,  the 
House  was  adjourned by  Mr.  Speaker  without  Question 
put,  at  eleven  minutes  after  Eleven,  till  to-morrow,  165. 

At  a quarter  of  an hour  after  Twelve  a.m.,  till 

this  day,  237. 

A t  twenty-two  minutes  after Twelve a.m.,  493. 

Sits  till  Seventeen  minutes  before  Two,  363. 

INFORMED   o f  M A T T E RS  : 

Twenty-nine  minutes  before  Three, 

By  Mr.  Speaker,  that  he  had  received  a  letter 
from  the  Clerk  of  the  Crown  iu  Ireland,  relating  to  the 
Imprisonment  of  a  Member  (Mr.  Farrell),   3. 

275. 

That  the  Lord  Mayor   of  Dublin  attended  at 

the  door, and was called  in, and  presents a  Petition, 217, 

By  Mr.  Speaker,  that he  had received  a  letter 
stating  that  a  Member  had  been  declared  bankrupt, 
307. 

half  an  hour  after  Three,  545. 

Six  minutes  before  Foui',  221, 

Twelve  minutes  before  Four,  311. 

Seven  minutes  before  Five,  472. 

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Sits  till  Two  minutes  after  Five,  121,149. 

Three  minutes  after Five,  240. 

Five  minutes  after  Five,  256. 

Seven  minutes  after  Five,  56. 

213. 

—  Seven  minutes  after Eleven,  12. 

— Eight  minutes  after Eleven,  36,  79. 

— Nine  minutes  after  Eleven,  139. 
— Ten  minutes  after  Eleven,  27. 
— Eleven  minutes  after  Eleven,  165, 

Nine  minutes  after Five,  20,  136. 

Ten  minutes  after  Five,  446. 

64,  128,  335,  538. 

—  

— — 

Eleven  minutes  after  Five,  185. 

Fourteen  minutes  after  Five,  83. 

Sixteen  minutes  after  Five,  69. 

Eighteen  minutes  after  Five,  329. 

333. 

Twenty  minutes  after  Five,  411. 

2 9,  9 6. 

Twenty-two  minutes  after Five,  434. 

Twenty-five  minutes  after  Five,  31. 

Twenty-seven  minutes  after  Five, 

half  an hour  after  Five,  293,  346. 

Twenty-nine  minutes  before  Six, 

352. 

327. 

4 9 0. 

75. 

^ Twenty-eight  minutes  before  Six, 

-	  Twenty-six  minutes  before  Six,  547. 

•  Twenty-five  minutes  before  Six,  43. 

-	  Eleven  minutes  before  Six,  513. 

-	  Ten  minutes  before  Six,  107,  459. 

Two  minutes after  Six,  205. 

-	  Twenty  minutes  after  Seven,  208. 

Eighteen  minutes  before  Eight,  486. 

-	  Ten  minutes  before  Eight,  323. 

-	  Eight,  379. 

Five  minutes  after  Eight,  502. 

Six  minutes  after  Eight,  423, 

Twenty-eight  minutes  after  Eight, 

Twenty-one  minutes  before  Nine, 

Two  minutes  before  Nine,  544.  


Two  minutes  after  Nine,  224.  


Twenty-one  minutes  before  Ten, 

Six  minutes  after  Ten,   9.  


a  quarter  of  an hour  after  Ten,  111.  


Twenty-five  minutes  after  Ten,  359.  


Eleven,  17,  25.  


One  minute  after Eleven,  33.  


Two  minutes  after  Eleven,  62,  66,  


Three  minutes  after  Eleven,  119, 

Four  minutes  after  Eleven,  117. 

Five  minutes  after  Eleven,  93,  144, 

—  Six  minutes  after  Eleven,  114,  292, 

125,  254. 

194,  220,  232. 

414. 

22,  42. 

159. 

370. 

409. 

391. 

176. 

a.m., 237,  395,  475 

a.m.,  39,  217,  445. 

5 2. 	

463. 

a.m.,  493. 

a.m., 474,  505. 

a.m.,  134. 

a.m.,  204. 

Twelve  minutes  after  Eleven,  60,86. 

Thirteen  minutes  after  Eleven,  56, 

-	  Fourteen  minutes  after  Eleven,  358. 
Seventeen  minutes  after  Eleven,  89, 

Twenty  minutes after Eleven,  215. 

Twenty-one  minutes  after  Eleven, 

Twenty-two  minutes  after  Eleven, 

Twenty-three  minutes  after  Eleven, 

Twenty-six  minutes  after  Eleven, 

Twenty-seven  minutes  after  Eleven, 

Twenty-eight  minutes  after  Eleven, 

Half  an  hour  after  Eleven,  45,  191, 

Twenty-seven  minutes before Twelve, 

Twenty-six  minutes  before  Twelve, 

Twenty-five  minutes  before  Twelve, 

Twenty  minutes  before  Twelve,  470. 
Eighteen  minutes  before  Twelve, 

a  quarter  of  an  hour  before  Twelve, 

Thirteen  minutes before Twelve,  48. 
Twelve  minutes  before  Twelve,  82. 
Ten  minutes  before  Twelve,  72,  401. 
Seven  minutes  before  Twelve,  528 
Five  minutes  before  Twelve,  510. 
Two  minutes  before  Twelve,  183. 
Two  minutes  after  Twelve  a.m.,  247. 
Three  minutes  after  Twelve  a.m., 

Seven minutes after Twelve a.m., 265. 
Fourteen  minutes  after  Twelve  a.m., 

a	  quarter  of  an  hour  after  Twelve 

Seventeen  minutes  after  Twelve 

Nineteen  minutes  after  Twelve  a.m., 

Twenty  minutes  after  Twelve  a.m., 

Twenty-two  minutes  after  Twelve 

Twenty-three  minutes  after  Twelve 

Twenty-five  minutes  after  Twelve 

Twenty-seven  minutes  after  Twelve 

9 7,  1 6 7. 

210,  499. 

5 3 0. 

344. 

488, 

234. 

142,  362. 

131,  179. 

1 4 7,  3 8 4. 

309. 

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HOUSE—continued. 

——  Sits  till  Twenty-eight  minutes  after  Twelve 

a.m.,  468. 

j 

a.m.,  443. 

Twenty-eight  minutes  before  One 

— — —  — 

Twenty-seven  minutes  before  One 

a.m.,  403.  

—— 
a.m.,  162.  


245. 

465. 

— 

Twenty-two  minutes  before  One 

Twenty minutes before One a.m., 341. 


Fourteen  minutes  before  One  a.m., 

Ten  minutes  before  One  a.m.,  430,

—  Seven  minutes  before  One  a.m.,  273. 

Five  minutes  before  One  a.m.,  509. 

Three  minutes  before  One a.m.,  102. 

r——— 

^ 

One a.m.,  527. 

, 

One  minute  after  One  a.m., 417. 

—  — - —  — 

—- Two  minutes  after  One  a.m.,  526. 

— . . ; .  ; 

. .••.————  Four  minutes  after  One  a.m., 432. 

— — 

Five  minutes  after  One  a.m.,  407. 

——— 

Seven  minutes  after  One  a.m.,  482. 

— ^ 

Eleven  minutes  after  One a.m.,  535. 

—  Sixteen  minutes  after  One a.m.,  172. 

Twenty-eight  minutes  before  Two 

— —  — 

a.m.,  452.  


— -— 

Twenty-three  minutes  before  Two 

a.m.,  285.  


— 

Seventeen  minutes  before  Two  a.m., 

Two] minutes  before  Two  a.m.,  378, 

— 

Five  minutes  after  Two  a.m.,  425, 

— 
373. 

322. 

388. 

Three  minutes  before  Six  a.m.,  318. 

=—: 

Eighteen  minutes  after  Six  a.m.,

Thirteen  minutes  after  Seven  a.m.,, 

Nineteen  minutes  before  Nine  a.m.^ 

Five  minutes after  Nine  a.m.,  306. 

HOUSE,  BUSINESS   OF  T H E: 

ORDERS relative to Proceedings having precedence   :— 
:  Proceedings  on  the  Address  to  have  pre­

cedence  over  other  Orders  of  the  day  and  Notices  of 
Motion,  12. 

That  the  other  Government  Business  have 

precedence  this  day  of  the  Business of  Supply,  80,  95. 

—  ( Ways  and  Means);  Order,  That  the  Com­

mittee  of  Ways  and  Means  have  precedence  this  day 
of  the  Business of  Supply,  132,  180. 

That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Motion  relating 
to  the  Whitsuntide  Adjournment  have  precedence  this 
day  of  the  Business  of  Supply,  205. 

That  the  Proceedings  on  the  Finance  Bill 

have  precedence  this  day  of  the  Business  of  Supply,  21 

— 

—  Proceedings 

in  Committee  on  Navy  and 

Army  Expenditure   to  have  precedence  of  the  Com­
mittee  of  Supply,  342. 

(Supply) ;  Order,  That  on this  day,  notwith­
standing  anything  in  Standing  Order  No.  15,  Business 
other  than  Business  of  Supply  may  be  taken  before 
Eleven  of  the  clock,  347. 

PROCEEDINGS  of,  under  discussion  when  Business  is 
postponed,  be  resumed  and  proceeded  with,  though 
opposed,  after the  interruption   of  Business  : — 

— Supply,  38  (on  Division),  46  (on  Division), 5<> 

(on  Division),  73  (on  Division),  271  (on  Division). 

—  Sixteen  minutes  after  Two  a.m., 154. 

Twenty  minutes  after Two a.m.,  437. 

Division). 

Housing,  Town  Planning,  &c.  Bill,   99  (on 

Twenty-six  minutes  before  Three 

- — 

Ways  and  Means,  160  (on  Division). 

—  Twenty-one  minutes  before  Three 

EXEMPTION 

from  Standing  Order  No.  1  (Sittings 

— - Seventeen  minutes  before  Three 

• ,————-— 

Twelve  minutes  before  Three  a.m., 

251,  261.  

-

' 

1 

—  Nine  minutes  after  Three  a.m.,  448.  


~—  —  Seventeen  minutes  after  Three  a.m., 

523. 

a.m., 428. 

. 

a.m.,  288. 

Twenty-two  minutes  after  Three 

a  quarter  of  an  hour  before  Four 

— —  —  Five  minutes,before  Four  a.m.,  282. 

Eight  minutes  after  Four  a.m.,  268. 

— 

Twenty-four  minutes  before  Five 

T 

•'
 '

a.m.,  440. 
1 
457. 
" 
106. 


"  — 

Thirteen  minutes  before  Five  a.m., 

Eighteen  minutes  before  Six  a.m., 

_ 

Six  minutes before  Six  a.m.,  368.  


of  the  House)   :— 

(Reports  of Money Committees');  Motion,  That 

the  Proceedings  on  the  Reports  of  the  Committee   of 
Ways  and  Means  and  Committees  authorising  the 
expenditure  of  public  money,  other  than  the  Committee 
of  Supply,  may  be  entered  upon  at  any  hour  after 
Eleven  of  the  clock,  though  opposed,  and  shall  not  be 
interrupted  under  the  provisions  of  the  Standing  Order 
(Sittings of  the  House)  ;  Question  agreed to  on  Division, 
32. 

-—— 

(Supply) ;  That 

the  Proceedings  on 

the 
Business  of  Supply,  if  under  discussion  at  Eleven   of 
interrupted  under  the 
the  clock  this  night,  be  not 
the  House),  notwith­
(Sittings  of 
Standing  Order 
standing  anything 
(on  Division),  236  (on  Division). 

in  Standing  Order  No.  15,   70 

—  —-—  (Friday Sitting) ;  Order, That the  Proceedings. 
oh  the  Consolidated  Fund  (No.   2)  Bill  be  not  inter­
rupted  to-morrow  at  Five   of  the  clock,  nor  half-past 
Five  of  the  clock,  and  may  be  entered  upon  at  any  hour,, 
though  opposed,  80. 

—  (Army  (Annual) [Compensation]  Committee) 

Order,  That  the  Proceedings   of  the  Committee  on  Army 

'  302. 
-

— 

420. 

479,498. 

'' 

_ 

a.m.,  421. 
-
a.m.,  455. 
.'  '  - -
a.m.,  299. 









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EXEMPTION  from  Standing  Order,  No.  1,  &c.—cont. 

[Compensation]  be  not 

this 
(Annual) 
interrupted 
evening  under  the  Standing  Order  (Sittings   of 
the 
House),  and  may  be  entered  upon  and  proceeded  with 
at  any  hour, though  opposed,  95. 

(Ways  and  Means);  Order,  That  the  Pro­

ceedings  of  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means,  if  under 
consideration  at  Eleven  of  the  clock  this  night,  be  not 
interrupted  under  the  Standing  Order  (Sittings   of  the 
House),  132,  137  (on  Division),  141  (on  Division), 
151  (on  Division),  156 Ton  Division),  169  (on  Division), 
174,  180. 

— (Finance  Bill)  (Committee);  That  the  Pro­
ceedings  on  Clause  14 of  the  Finance  Bill   be  not  inter­
rupted  this day  at  Five  of  the  clock  or  at half-past  Five, 
under  the  Standing  Orders  relating  to  the  Sittings  of 
the  House  ;  and,  when  that  Clause  has  been  disposed  of 
and  Progress  shall be  reported,  Mr.  Speaker   do  adjourn 
the  House  without  Question  put,  if  Progress  is  reported 
after  Five   of  the  clock,  378. 

-—r-r-—— 

(Proceedings on  the  Indian.  Councils  Bill) 
[ Lords] v  Order, That  the  Proceedings   on  the  Indian 
Councils  Bill  [Lords\ if  under  discussion  at  Eleven 
of  the clock  this night, be not  interrupted  under  Standing-
Order  (Sittings   of  the  House),  109. 

:  —  Trawling  in  Prohibited  Areas  (Prevention) 

Bill,  233. 

Financial  Resolution  relating  thereto,  shall  be  proceeded 
with in the  following  manner,  &c.,  and  Order  made,  after 
Amendment  made,  228-9. 

PROCEDURE  (Standing  Orders  amended):— 

: 

——  Standing  Order  No.  81  (Deputy  Speaker  and 
Deputy  Chairman)  ;  read,  and  amended,  in  para,  (2), 
1.  4,  by  leaving  out  words  and  inserting  others,  and  in 
same  paragraph  and line, by  inserting  words,  338. 

— — — —  -  Standing  Order  No.  26  (Closure  of Dehate)  ; 
read  ;  Amendment  proposed  to  the  Standing  Order,  in 
1. 25,  at  the  end, to  insert  words ;  Amendment  proposed 
to  proposed  Amendment,  at  the  beginning,  to  insert 
Words,  negatived  on  Division;  another  Amendment 
proposed  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  to  insert  words, 
withdrawn;  proposed  Amendment  amended   by  inserting 
words,  and  by  leaving  out  words  ;  other  Amendments 
proposed  to  the  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended, 
withdrawn,  and  negatived;  other  Amendments  made 
to  the  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended,  by  leaving  out 
words  and  inserting  others,  and  by  adding  words  ;  Main 
Question  put,  That  the  amended  words  be  inserted  at 
the  end  of  I.  25  of  the  Standing  Order;  agreed   to  on 
Division,  338-40.  Standing  Order  further  amended,   in 
1, 28, by  inserting  words,  340.	

] 

r

•	  " 

'  —  Standing  Order  No. 27  (Majority for Closure); 
read,  and  amended,  by  inserting  words,  340.  Vide 
STANDING  ORDERS. 

— " 

. —  —  Labour  Exchanges  Bill,  342  (on  Division). 

ADJOURNMENT  MOTIONS   under  Standing  Order 

.—— 

(Irish  Land  Bill')  (Allocation  of  Time);  That 

. 
the  Proceedings  on  the  Motion  for  the  allocation   of 
time  for  the  Irish  Land  Bill   be  not  interrupted  under 
Standing  Order (Sittings  of the House), 226 (on Division). 

—	 

:——  (Procedure);  That  the  Proceedings  on  the 
consideration  of  Business  of  the  House  (Procedure)  be 
not  interrupted  under  Standing  Order  (Sittings   of  the 
House),  337  (on  Division). 

. 

- . ( N a v  y 

and  Army  Expenditure,  1907-8) 
(Report);  That  the  Proceedings  be  not 
interrupted 
under  Standing  Order  (Sittings  of  the  House),  and  may 
be  entered  upon  and proceeded  with  at  any  hour,  though 
opposed,  353  (on  Division). 

—y>Jv- —  (South  Africa  Bill)  (Committee);  That  the 
Proceedings  on the  Bill, if  under  consideration  at  Eleven 
of  the  clock,  be  not  interrupted  under  Standing  Order 
(Sittings  of  the  House),  392. 

—— 

(Government Business) ;  Motion,  That  for  the 
remainder  of  the  Session  Government  Business  be  not 
•interrupted  under  the  provisions  of  any  Standing  Order 
regulating  the  Sittings of  the  House, and  may  be  entered 
upon  at  any  hour,  though  opposed,  and  have  precedence 
at  everv  Sitting;  that  at  the  conclusion  of  Government 
Business  each  day  Mr.  Speaker   do  adjourn  the  House 
without  Question  put;  that   on  Fridays  the  House, 
unless  it  otherwise  resolves,  shall  at  its  rising  stand 
adjourned  till  the  following  Monday  ;  and  that   no 
Motions  be  made  to  bring  in  Bills  under  Standing 
Order  No.  11;  and Question,  on  Division,  agreed  to,  395. 

ALLOCATION  of  Time  for  certain  Bills :—• 

1— 

{Housing,  Town  Planning, Sfc. Bill)  (Allo­

cation  of  Time);  Motion,  That  the  Committee  stage 
(including  any  Motion  for  an  Instruction),  Report  stage, 
and  Third  Reading  of  the  Housing,  Town  Planning, 
&e. Bill  shall  be  proceeded  with  in  the folio wing  manner, 
&c.,  and  Order  made,  after Amendment  made,  226-7. 

—	  _ 

(Irish Land Bill) (Allocation of Time)  ;  Motion, 

the  Committee  stage 

That 
(including  any  Motion 
for  an Instruction),  Report  stage,  and  Third  Reading   of 
the  Irish  Land  Bill,  and  the  necessary  stages   of  the 

No.  10:— 

— —  —  Members  rise  in  their  places  and  ask  leave  to 
move  the  Adjournment  of  the  House  for  the  purpose   of 
discussing  definite  matters  of  urgent  public  importance. 

PLEASURE   of  the  House  signified :—• 

— —  Motions  stand  over,  under  Standing  Order 

No.  10, till  the  evening   :— 

——  (Mr.  Condon);  Arrest  of  Mr.  W.  P.  Murphy, 
37.  Motion,  That  this House   do  now adjourn,  negatived 
on  Division,  38. 

t 

PLEASURE  of  the  House  not  signified  


—————-  Prisoners  awaiting  Trial   in  Spain ;  Motion  

supported  by  less  than  Forty  Members  ;  House  proceeds  

to the  Orders  of  the  day,  499.  


HOUSE   of  COMMONS  (Kitchen  and  Refreshment  Rooms)  ; 
Select  Committee  to  control  the  arrangements  for  the 
Kitchen  and  Refreshment  Rooms  in  the  Department  of 
the  Seqeant-at-Arms  attending  this  House;  appointed; 
to  consist  of  Seventeen  Members;  nominated;  power 
to  send  for  persons,  papers,  and  records;  Three   to  be 
the  quorum,  35.  Member  added  to  the  Committee,  271. 
Report,  546. 

HOUSE  of  LORDS  (Refusal to pass Finance  Bill);  Motion, 
That  the  action  Of  the  House  of  Lords  in  refusing to 
pass into  Law  the  financial  provision made  by  this  House 
for  the  service   of  the  year  is  a  breach  of  the  Constitu 
tion,  and a usurpation of  the  rights of  the Commons;  and 
Question, on  Division, resolved  in  the  Affirmative,  546. 

HOUSE  of  LORDS.  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  KING'S  SPEECH 

(Motion for  an  Address). 

HOUSE  LETTING  and  RATING  (Scotland)  (changed  to 
Small  Dwelling-Houses  in  Burghs  Letting  and  Rating 
(Scotland);  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  as  to  the  Letting 
and Rating  of  Small  Houses  in  Scotland,  and for  other 
purposes relating  thereto  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be 
read a  second  time,  107.  Second  Reading  deferred,  115, 

VOL.  164. 

-Sess.  1909. 

4  s  3

 
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to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME. 

640 

HOUSE  LETTING  and  RATING  (Scotland),  &c.—continued. 
118,  124,  127,138,142,  154,  171,175,  178,  183,  190,  211. 
Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a  second  time; 
Amendment  proposed,  "  three  months  ; "  Question  p u t; 
Amendment  not  made  on  Division;  Bill  read  a  second 
time;  Motion,  That  the  Bill  be 4 committed  to  a  Com­
mittee  of  the  whole  House,  negatived  on  Division  ;  Bill 
committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  220-1.  Fifteen 
Members  added  to  the  Committee  in  respect  of  the 
Bill,  226.  Scottish  Standing  Committee,  234.  Bill 
reported,  with  Amendments,  and an  amended  Title  ;  day 
appointed  for  consideration,  as  amended,  336.  Con­
sideration,  as amended,  deferred,  344,  351,  367,  382,  394. 
Bill  considered,  as  amended;  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  395.  Agreed   to by  the Lords,  with  Amendments 
(changed to  Small  Dwelling-Houses  in  Burghs  Letting 
and  Rating  (Scotland)  Bill);  day  appointed  for  con­
sidering  them  ;  and to be printed, 505.  Consideration  of 
Lords'  Amendments  deferred,  509,  510,  520.  Motion, 
That  the  Lords'  Amendments   be  now  considered; 
Amendment  proposed,  "  three  months,"  on  Division,  not 
made  ;  Lords'  Amendments  considered  ;  several  agreed 
to,  several  disagreed  t o;  one  amended,  and  agreed  t o; 
consequential Amendment proposed to be made to the Bill, 
on  Division,  agreed  t o;  one  other  Amendment  agreed 
to,  another  disagreed  to  ;  Committee  appointed  to  draw 
up  Reasons  for  disagreeing   to  certain  of  the  Lords' 
Amendments  ;  nominated  ;  Three  quorum ;  to  withdraw 
immediately,  524-5.  Reason  reported,  and  agreed  to, 
526.  Lords  agree  to  Commons'  Amendments  to  Lords' 
Amendments,  with  Amendments,  disagree   to  Commons' 
consequential  Amendment  and  assign  a  Reason;   do  not 
insist  on  their  Amendments  to  which  this  House  hath 
disagreed,  531.  Day  appointed  for  consideration   of 
Lords'  Amendments  and  Reason  ;   to  be  printed,  531. 
Consideration  of  Lords'  Amendments  and  Reason 
deferred, 538.  Lords' Amendments  to Commons'  Amend­
ments to Lords' Amendments, and Reason for  disagreeing 
to  Commons'  consequential  Amendment  to  the  Bill, 
considered;  one  Amendment  agreed  to,  one  disagreed 
to :  Lords'  Reason  for  disagreeing   to  Clause  inserted  by 
the  Commons  considered  ;  Resolution,  That  this  House 
doth  not  insist  upon  its  Amendment  disagreed   to  by  the 
Lords;  A mendment  made   to  the  Bill  instead  thereof; 
Committee  appointed  to  draw  up  Reasons,  &c.;  nomi­
nated  ;  Three  quorum;   to  withdraw,  542.  Reason 
for  disagreement  reported,  and  agreed  t o;  Bill  returned 
to  the  Lords,  544. 

HOUSES   of  P A R L I A M E NT  ;  Bill  to  make  better  provision 
for  punishing  strangers  who  abuse  the  privilege   of 
admission  to  either  House  of  Parliament;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  17.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  22,  24,  27,  29,  31,  33,  36,39,  41,  44,  48,  52,  55, 
59,  62,  71,  74,  79,  81,  83,  85,  89,  93,  95,  101,  105,  110. 
Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a  second 
time; 
Amendment  proposed,  " s ix  months,"  and  Motion  for 
adjournment  of  the  Debate  agreed  to,  112.  Adjourned 
Debate  on  Amendment  further  adjourned,  124,  138,  153, 
170,  189,  211,  223,  243,  259,  280,  297,  316,  331,  349, 
366,  383.  Bill  withdrawn,  398. 

HOUSING  of  the  W O R K I NG  CLASSES  ;  Bill  to  amend  the 
Law  relating  to  the  Housing  of  the  Working  Classes, 
to  empower  local  authorities  to  levy  rates  upon  empty 
houses, to  establish  Fair  Rent  Courts,  and  to  provide  for 
the establishment of  public health and housing  committees 
of  county  councils,  with  further  provision  with  respect 
to  the  appointment  and  duties  of  medical  officers  of 
health;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a  second 
time,  107.  Vide   ACCOUNTS. 

HOUSING,  T O WN  PLANNING,   &c.;  Bill   to  amend  the 
Law  relating   to  the  Housing   of  the  Working  Classes,  to 
provide  for  the  making  of  Town  Planning  Schemes,  and 

to  make  further  provision  with  respect  to  the  appoint­
ment  and  duties  of  county  medical  officers   of  health* 
and  to  provide  for  the  establishment   of  public  health 
and  housing  committees  of  county  councils;  pre­
sented,  and ordered to be read  a second  time,  11.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  22,  24,  27,  29, 33, 39, 4 ],  44, 48,  52, 
55, 56,  59,  71,  74, 85,  89,  93,  95.  Proceedings,   if  under 
discussion when  Business  is  postponed, to  be  resumed  and 
proceeded  with,  &c.,  99  (on  Division).  Motion,  That, 
the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time;  Amendment  pro­
posed,  to  leave  out  words  and  add  others,  and  at  8.15 
proceeding  postponed,  99.  Resumed,  and  Question  put, 
pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate),  and 
agreed  t o;  Amendment  not  made;  Bill  read  a  second 
time;  Bill  committed   to  a  Committee  of  the  whole 
House,  100.  Committee  deferred,  105,  110,  123,  138, 
153,  164,  171,  190,  211,  214,  216,  224.  Motion   as  to 
allocation  of  time,  amended,  and  agreed  to,  226-7. 
Committee  deferred,  243,  260,  280,  297,  316,  323,  325, 
332,  350,  359,  367,  376,  382, 397,400, 403. 
[1st  allotted 
D a y ];  considered   in  Committee ;  Chairman  puts  Ques­
tions  forthwith,  pursuant  to  Order  of  the  House,  at 
half-past  Seven  and  half-past  Ten,  411-13. 
[2nd 
allotted  D a y]  ;  considered   in  Committee;  Chairman  puts 
Questions  forthwith, pursuant to Order  o f  the  House,  at 
half-past  Seven  and  half-past  Ten  ;  Chairman 
leaves 
the  Chair,  pursuant  to  Order;  Bill  reported,  415-16. 
Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  420,  425,  432. 
[3rd  allotted  D a y]  ;  Bill  considered,   as amended  ;  Mr. 
Speaker  puts  Questions  forthwith, pursuant  to  Order; 
Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  433-4.  Agreed 
to  by  the  Lords, with Amendments, 488.  Day  appointed 
for  considering  them,  494.  Consideration   of  Lords' 
Amendments  deferred,  502,  509,  510.  Lords'  Amend­
ments  considered,  several  disagreed  to,  several  agreed 
to,  several  amended,  and  agreed  t o;  one  Amendment 
divided,  part  disagreed  to,  part  agreed  to;  several  other 
Amendments  disagreed  to,  several  agreed  to;  one  other 
Amendment  amended,  and  agreed  to  ;  another  Amend­
ment  divided  ;  part  disagreed  to,  part  agreed  to  ;  other 
Amendments  disagreed  to,  others  agreed  t o;  another 
Amendment  divided,  part  disagreed  to,  part  agreed  t o; 
several other  Amendments  disagreed to;  another  Amend­
ment  divided,  part  agreed 
to,  part  disagreed   to  ; 
Amendment  made to  the  Bill,  instead  of  words  disagreed 
t o;  several  other  Amendments  disagreed  to,  several 
agreed  t o;  another  Amendment  divided,  part  disagreed 
to,  part  amended,  and  agreed  to  ;  several  other  Amend­
ments  agreed  to,  several  disagreed  t o;  Amendment 
made  to the  Bill, instead  of  Lords' Amendment  disagreed 
to  ;  several  other  Amendments  agreed  to,  several  dis­
agreed  t o  ;  words  so  restored  to  the  Bill  amended; 
several  other  Amendments  disagreed  to, several  agreed 
to  ;  consequential  Amendments  made  to  the  B i l l; 
Committee  appointed  to  draw  up  Reasons 
for  dis­
agreeing  to  certain  of  the  Lords'  Amendments;  nomi­
nated :  Three  to be  the  quorum  ;  to  withdraw,  514-20. 
Reasons  reported,  and  agreed  to,  521.  Lords  agree   to 
certain  Commons'  Amendments  to  Lords'  Amendments, 
and  to  Commons'  consequential  Amendments,  with 
Amendments;  disagree  to  certain  other  Amendments, 
but  propose  Amendments  in  lien  thereof,  and  have  made 
a  consequential  Amendment  to  the  Bill;   do  not  insist on 
certain  of  their  Amendments  disagreed  to by  this  House, 
and do  not  insist  on  certain  other of  their  Amendments, 
but  propose  Amendments  in  lieu  thereof,  531,  Day 
appointed  for  consideration   of  Lords'  Amendments   to 
Commons'  Amendments  to  Lords'  Amendments,  and 
Commons'  consequential  Amendment,  and  Lords'  con­
sequential  Amendment  to  the  Bill,  and  Lords'  Amend­
ments  in  lieu  of  Amendments  disagreed  t o;  and   to  be 
printed,  532.  Consideration  of  Lords'  Amendments 
to  Commons' 
deferred,  538. 
Lords'  Amendments  
Amendments  to  Lords'  Amendments,  and  to Commons' 
consequential  Amendments  to  the  Bill,  and  Lords' 

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HOUSING,  T O WN  PLANNING,  &C.—continued. 

consequential  Amendment  to  the  Bill,  and  Lords' 
Amendments  in  lieu  of  their  Amendments  disagreed  to, 
(Cited  as Housing, 
considered,  and  agreed  to,  542. 
Town Planning,  &fc.  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  547. 

HOUSING,  T O WN  PLANNING,  &C.  B I LL  (Allocation 

of 
Time);  That  the  Committee  stage  (including any  Motion 
for  an  Instruction),  Report  Stage,  and  Third  Reading   of 
the  Housing,  Town  Planning, &c. Bill  shall   be  proceeded 
with  in  the  following  manner,  &c.;  Order  made, after  an 
Amendment  made,  226-7. 

HOUSING,  T O WN  PLANNING,  &C.  B I L L.  V i d e "A C C O U N T S. 

H U LL   and  BARNSLEY  R A I L W AY   ;  Bill  read  the  first  time, 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  14.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  31. 
Report  from  the  Select  Committee   on  Standing  Orders, 
on  Petition  for  dispensing  with  Standing  Order  128, 
That  the  Standing  Order  ought   to  be  dispensed  with,  34. 
Bill  read a second time,  and  committed,  43.  Petition  for 
additional  provision  referred  to  the  Examiners,  150. 
Report  on  Petition  for  additional  provision,  Standing 
Orders not  complied  with,  referred  to  the  Select  Com­
mittee  on  Standing  Orders,  165.  Report  from  Select 
:  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  in  the  case  of  the 
Petition  for  additional  provision  the  Standing  Orders 
ought  to  be dispensed with, 173.  Reported, with  Amend­
ments;  additional  provision  inserted,  180.  Considered, 
as  amended,  191.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  205. 
Agreed  to  hy  the Lords,  with Amendments, 334.  Lords' 
Amendments  agreed  to,  344. 
(Cited  as  Hull  and 
Barnsley  Railway Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

HUMIDITY  and  VENTILATION  (Departmental  Committee). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

H Y P O T H EC  A B O L I T I ON   (Scotland);  Bill  to  abolish,  the 
landlords'  Hypothec  for  rent   in  Scotland;  presented, 
Second 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  76. 
Reading  deferred,  124. 

Lords  ;  read  the first time, and  day appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  53.  Second  Reading  deferred,-  59,  71,  85,  89, 
93,  Read  a second  time;  Bill  committed   to  a  Committee 
of  the  whole  House,  95.  Committee  deferred,  101,  106. 
Proceedings  not  to  be  interrupted  at Eleven  of  the  clock, 
&c.,  109.  Bill  considered  in  Committee,  and  reported  ; 
day  appointed  for  consideration,  109-10.  Considered, 
as amended;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with 
Amendments,  123.   T o  which  Amendments  the  Lords 
agree,  with  Amendments,  142.  Day  appointed  for  con­
sidering  them,  143.  Consideration  of  Lords'  Amend­
ments deferred,  153,  158,  171,  175.  Lords'Amendments 
to  Commons'  Amendments  agreed  to,  177  (on  Division). 
(Cited as Indian  Councils  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192. 

I N D IA  OFFICE  ESTABLISHMENT.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

INDIAN  RAILWAYS  (Sinking  Funds  Investment)  [Lords]  ; 
Report,  on  Petition  for  Bill  originating  in  the  Lords, 
Standing  Orders  not  complied  with,  referred   to  the 
Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  69.  Report, 
Standing  Order  ought  to  be  dispensed  with;  parties  to 
proceed  with  their  Bill,  126.  Brought  from  the  Lords, 
read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  156. 
.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
complied  with, 167.-  Read  a second  time, and  committed, 
186.  Reported,  without  Amendment,  218.  Considered, 
224,  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  without  Amend­
ment,  238. 
Funds) Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited as Indian  Railway  Annuities  (Sinking

INEBRIATE  ACTS   (Scotland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

INEBRIATES  ACTS  (Scotland)  (Departmental  Committee). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

INEBRIATES  ACTS   (Inspector's  Report)  (Ireland).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

I N F A NT  L I FE  PROTECTION   ;  Bill  to  prevent  the  destruc­
tion  of  Children  during  birth;  presented,  and  ordered 
to be  read  a  second  time,  95.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
101.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  130.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  134,  135,  139,  154.  Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  174.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
185,  194, 201.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  214. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  217.  Day  appointed 
for 
Second  Reading,  270, 307,  392. 

9  Edw.  VIL  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

INLAND  R E V E N U E.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

I M P E R I AL  COLLEGE   o f  SCIENCE  a nd  TECHNOLOGY. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

INQUIRY 

into  CHARITIES  (County  of  Berks').  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

IMPERIAL  CONFERENCE.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

INQUIRY 

into  CHARITIES  (County  Borough  of  Bury).

IMPERIAL  DEFENCE   (Naval  Policy).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

IMPERIAL  OTTOMAN  GUARANTEED  L O AN  

o f 

1 8 5 5. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

IMPERIAL  REVENUE  (Collection  and  Expenditure)  (Great 

Britain  and  Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

INQUIRY 

into  CHARITIES 

(County  of  Devon).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

INQUIRY  into  CHARITIES  (County  Borough of  Exeter).

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

INQUIRY  into  CHARITIES  (County Borough  of Plymouth).

IMPORTS  and  EXPORTS  at  PRICES   of  1900.  Vide 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

ACCOUNTS. 

IMPRISONMENT 
SPEAKER. 

of 

a  MEMBER. 

Vide  MEMBERS. 

ACCOUNTS. 

INQUIRY 

into  CHARITIES  (County  of  Wilts).  Vide 

INCOME  T AX   ;  Motion,  That,  in the  opinion  of  this  House, 
it is desirable  equitably  to  graduate  the  Income  T a x  ; 
Debate  arising,  Closure  claimed,  but  assent  withheld, 
and  at  Eleven  of  the  clock,  Debate  stood  adjourned;   no 
date  fixed  for  resumption,  78.  Vide   W A YS   and  M E A N S. 

INDIAN  COUNCILS   [Lords];  Bill,  intituled   A n  A ct   to 
amend  the  Indian  Councils  Acts,  1861  and  1892,  and 
the  Government  of  India  Act,  1833 ;  brought  from  the 

I N S T R U C T I O N S: 

P R I V A TE  BILLS   : — 
— 

To the  Committees on  the Ponty­
pridd  Water  Bill,  West  Gloucestershire  Water  Bill, 
Cardiff  Corporation  Bill,  Llanelly  Water  Bill,  North­
allerton Water  Bill, and Watford  Urban  District  Council 
Bill;  that  they  have  power   to  inquire  as  to  the  supply 
of  Water  at  reasonable  rates,  &c.,  and  to  insert  in  the 
Bill  Clauses  to  provide  such  supply,  67. 

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to  the  ONE  HUNDRED

and  SIXTY-FOURTH  YOLTTME. 

[1909. 

INSTRUCTIONS—continued. 

P R I V A TE  BILLS—continued. 

To  the  Committees  on  the  Gla­
morgan Water  Board  Bill, Oldham  Corporation  Bill, and 
Aidershot  Gas and Water Bill;   to inquire as to the supply 
of  Water,  &c.,  76.  Frimley  and  Farnborough  District 
Water  Bill,  159. 

To  a Select  Committee  on  a  Bill 
(Private);  amended and agreed to,103-4  (GreatNorthern, 
Great  Central,  and  Great  Eastern  Railways  Bill). 

— To  the  Committees  on  Taff  Yale 
Railway  (Rhymney  Railway), &c.  Bill  [Lords], and  Taff 
Vale  Railway  (Cardiff  Railway)  &c.,  Bill  [Lords];   to 
receive all Petitions to be  heard  against  the Bills  in  Com­
mittee,  &c.,  282. 

' 

To  the  Committee  on  the  Meth­

wold  and  Feltwell  Drainage  Bill  [Lords] ;  amended, and 
agreed  to,  300. 

;  

T o  the  Committee  of  Selection; 
to  refer  part of  a  Provisional  Order  Bill   to  the  Local 
(Prestatyn  Gas  Order.) 
Legislation  Committee,  162. 
(Gas  Provisional  Order  Bill.) 

—  — 

Motions 
London  County  Council  (General  Powers)  Bill,  with­
drawn,  80-1.  


Instructions  

for 

to 

PUBLIC  B I L L S :— 

To  the  Committee  on  a  recom­

mitted  Bill;  that  they  have  power   to  extend  the  Bill  to 
Ireland,  221. 

— 

To  the Committee on the Finance 
Bill;   to  make  provision  therein  pursuant to  Resolutions 
reported  from  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means,  461. 

the  Select  Committee  on 
Divorce  Bills  ;   to  hear  Counsel  and  examine  Witnesses, 
73. 

—  To 

Negatived, 103 (Army  (Annual) 
Bill).  And  Question  put,  pursuant   to  Order  of  the 
House,  292  (Irish  Land  Bill). 

INSPECTION  of  CONVENTS  ;  Motion  for  leave   to  bring  in  

a  Bill  to  make  provision  for  the  adequate  inspection  of  

Monastic  and  Conventual  Institutions  iu  the  United 
Kingdom;  Mr.  Speaker  puts  the  Question,  pursuant  

to  Standing  Order  No.  11,  and  Question,  on  Division,  

negatived,  174.  


INTERCOMMUNION  ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  Ecclesiastical  

with  respect  to  Intercommunion  between  the  Church 
of  England  and other  Christian  Churches,  and  for  other  

purposes  incidental  thereto ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  

read  a second  time,  107.  Second  Reading  deferred,  113,  

124.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  187.  Second 
Reading  deferred, 213,  220,  237,  254,  272. 

INTERMEDIATE 
ACCOUNTS. 

EDUCATION  

(Ireland). 

Vide 

(Ireland) 

INTERMEDIATE  EDUCATION  BOARD 

(Rules);
Motion,  That  an  humble  Address  be  presented  to  His 
Majesty,  praying  that  the  Rules   of  the  Intermediate 
Education  Board  for  Ireland  for  the  year  1909-10   be 
not  sanctioned  till  they  are  amended  in  the  following 
particular  :  Rule  12, leave out  paragraph  ( b );  negatived 
on  Division,  217. 

INTERNATIONAL  AGRICULTURAL 

INSTITUTE.  

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

INTERNATIONAL  EXHIBITIONS  

o f  BRUSSELS,  ROME, 

and  TURIN  (Royal  Commission).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

INTERNATIONAL 

N A V AL 

CONFERENCE.  

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

INTERVENTION
TIONS.  Vide

  o f  PEERS
  PRIVILEGE. 

  at  P A R L I A M E N T A RY  E L E C­

INTOXICATING  LIQUORS.   Vide  S A LE  of. 

INTOXICATING  LIQUOR   Supplied

in  CLUBS. 

Vide 

W A Y  S  a nd  M E A N S. 

IRELAND  DEVELOPMENT  G R A NT

A C T ,  1903. 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

IRISH  HOUSING  F U N D.   Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

IRISH

  L A ND  A C T,   1903.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

IRISH

L A N D ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  relating   to  the 
occupation  and  ownership  of  Land  in  Ireland,  and  for 
other  purposes  relating  thereto;  presented,  and  ordered 
to be  read  a second  time,  58.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
71,  85.  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a  second 
time  (interrupted  by  Message by  Black  Rod)  ;  Amend­
ment  proposed,  "  six  months,"  and  further  proceeding 
postponed  at  8.15,  88.  Resumed,  and  Debate  stood 
adjourned,  it  being  after  Eleven   of  the  clock;  day 
appointed  for  resumption,  89.  Resumed;  Amendment 
not  made  on  Division  ;  Bill  read  a  second  time;  Bill 
,  committed  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  92. 
Committee deferred, 101,106,110,123,  138,153,  170,189, 
211,223.  Motion  as to  allocation  of  time  ;  Order  made, 
228.  Committee  deferred,  243,  259,  280. 
(1st  allotted 
D a y );  Order  for  Committee  read;  Motion  for   an  In­
struction  to  divide  the  Bill  into  two  Bills,  and  Mr. 
Speaker  puts  the  Question,  pursuant  to  Order  of  the 
House,  and  Question,  on  Division,  negatived  ;  Bill  con­
sidered  in  Committee,  and  at  Five   of  the  clock  the 
Chairman  puts  Questions  forthwith,  pursuant  to  Order 
of  the  House, 292.  Committee deferred, 298, 316. 
(2nd 
allotted  Day)  ;  considered  in  Committee,  and  at  Five   of 
the  clock  the  Chairman  puts  Question  forthwith,  pur­
suant  to  Order  of  the  House,  328. 
(3rd  allotted  Day)  ; 
considered  in  Committee,  and it being  after  Five   of  the 
clock,  Chairman  puts  Questions  forthwith,  pursuant  to 
Order  of  the  House,  345.  Committee  deferred,  351, 
(4th  allotted  D a y );  considered   in  Com­
367, 382,  397. 
mittee  ;  Chairman  puts  Questions  forthwith,  at  half-past 
Seven  and  half-past  Ten, pursuant to Order of the  House, 
398-9. 
(5th  allotted  Day)  ;  considered   in  Committee  ; 
Chairman  puts  Questions  forthwith,  at  half-past  Teu, 
pursuant  to  Order  of  the  House,  401-2. 
(6th  allotted 
D a y );  considered   in  Committee;  Chairman  puts  Ques­
tions forthwith,  pursuant  to  Order of  the  House,  at  Nine 
of  the  clock  and  at half-past  Ten,  404-5. 
(7th  allotted 
in  Committee;  Chairman  puts 
D a y ); 
Questions  forthwith,  pursuant  to  Order  of  the  House,  at 
half-past  Ten,  407-8. 
(8th  allotted  Day)  ;  considered  in 
Committee ;  Chairman puts  Questions forthwith, pursuant 
to  Order  of  the  House  ;  Bill  reported;  day  appointed 
for  consideration,  as  amended,  410.  Consideration,  as 
amended,  deferred,  420,  425,  432,  436. 
(1st  allotted 
D a y );  Order for consideration,  as amended, read;  Motion, 
That  the  Bill   be  recommitted  to  Committee  of  the whole 
House,  agreed  to  on  Division;  Bill  considered   in  Com­
mittee ;  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate);  Bill  reported;  Bill,   as  amended 
in  Committee  and  on  recommittal,  considered  ;  a  Clause 
read  a  second  time,  and  amended;  further  consideration 
of  proposed  Clause,  as  amended  on  consideration  of  the 
Bill,  as  amended  in  Committee  and  on  recommittal, 
adjourned, 440-2. 
(2nd allotted  Day)  ;  proposed  Clause, 
as  amended  on  consideration  of  the  Bill,  as  amended  in 
Committee  and  on  recommittal,  further  considered,  and 
made  part of  the  B i l l;  new  Clauses  added   to  the  Bill, 
and at  half-past  Ten  Mr.  Speaker  puts  Questions  forth­
with,  pursuant  to  Order  of  the  House;  Amendments 
made  to  the  Bill;  day  appointed  for  Third  Reading, 
443-5.  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  the  third 

considered  







 
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time  ;  Amendment  proposed,  "  three  months,"  on  Divi­
sion,  not made ;  Main  Question  put,  and  agreed  to ;  Bill 
read  the third  time  and  passed,  445.  Agreed  to  by  the 
Lords,  with  Amendments,  504.  Day  appointed 
for 
considering  them  to  be  printed,  505.  Consideration  of 
Lords'  Amendments  deferred,  521,  528,  Motion,  That 
the  Question  of  agreement  or  disagreement  with  the 
Lords'  Amendments   be  put  with  respect  to  the  Amend­
ments  as  a  whole, on  Division,  agreed  to,  529.  Lords' 
Amendments  considered,  and  disagreed  to,  on  Division, 
as a  whole  ;  Committee  appointed  to  draw  up  Seasons 
for  disagreeing  to  the  Lords'  Amendments  ;  nominated  ; 
Three  quorum  ;  to  withdraw,  529.  Reason  reported, and 
agreed  to, 530.  Lords  do not insist on their  Amendments 
to  which  this  House  hath  disagreed, and  propose  other 
Amendments  in  lieu  thereof,  531.  Lords'  Amendments 
to be  printed, 531.  Order, That  the Lords'  Amendments 
in  lieu of  the Amendments  disagreed, to by  this  House  be 
now  considered  ;  considered  accordingly  ;  several  agreed 
to, several disagreed t o;  a consequential Amendment made 
to  the  Bill  ;  several  other  Amendments  agreed to,  or  dis­
agreed to  ;  Amendment made to the Bill, instead   of words 
disagreed  to,-  several  other  Amendments  disagreed  to; 
Lords' Amendment amended, and agreed t o;  several other 
Amendments  agreed  to,  several  disagreed  t o;  other 
Amendments  amended,  and agreed to  ;  further considera­
tion  of  Lords'  Amendments  adjourned,  532-4.  Lords' 
Amendments  further  considered  ;  several  agreed  to,  one 
disagreed t o;  several  amended, and agreed t o;  remaining 
Amendments  agreed  t o;  Committee appointed   to draw up 
Reasons, & c .;  nominated  ;  Three  quorum ;   to  withdraw, 
535.  Reasons reported, and agreed to, 538.  Lords agree 
to  Amendments  made  by  this  House  to  further  Amend­
ments  made  by  the  Lords  to  the  Bill,  and  to  the 
consequential  Amendments  made  by  this  House  to  the 
Bill,  without  Amendment,  and  do  not  insist  on  their 
Amendments  to  which  this  House  hath  disagreed,  545. 
( Cited as Irish Land Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  547. 

IRISH  L A ND  B I LL  

(Allocation  of  Time);  That  the 
Committee  stage  (including  any  Motion  for   an  Instruc­
tion),  Report  stage,  and  Third  Reading   of  the  Irish 
Land  Bill,  and  necessary  stages  of 
the  Financial 
Resolution  relating  thereto,  shall  be  proceeded  with  as 
follows,  &c.  Order  made,  after   an  Amendment  made, 
228-9. 

IRISH  L A ND  

[Advances,  Sfc.~]  ;  Committee  to  consider ; 
signified,  96. 

King's  Recommendation 
Committee 
deferred,  101,  105,  110,  113,  116,  119,  124,  128,  130, 
133,  138,  153,  158,  171,  190,  211,  223,  243,  259,  280. 
Matter  considered 
in  Committee,  and  Question  put 
forthwith, pursuant  to  Order  of  the  House,  and  agreed 
to,  293.  Report  deferred,  298,  308,  317.  Resolution 
reported,  and  agreed  to,  after  Amendments  proposed, 
and not made,  328. 

IRISH  UNIVERSITIES   A C T,  1908  (Statutes)-,  Motion, 
That  an humble  Address  be  presented  to  His  Majesty, 
praying  that  the  Statutes  made  for  the  Queen's  Uni­
versity  of  Belfast  by  the  Belfast  Commissioners,  in 
pursuance  of  the  Act  8 Edw.  7,  c.  38,  s.  5  (1),  be  not 
sanctioned  till  they  are  amended  in  the  following  par­
ticulars  :  Chapter  X V I .,  Faculties  3  (a),   by  inserting 
"  music,"  and  by  leaving  out  "  scholastic  philosophy   ;" 
negatived  on  Division,  245.  Vide   ACCOUNTS. 

IRVINE  HARBOUR  ORDER  CONFIRMATION   ;  Bill  to  con­

firm a Provisional  Order  under  the  Private  Legislation 
Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899,  relating   to Irvine  Har­
bour ;  presented, and ordered (under  Section 7 of  the  A c t) 
to be  considered,  430.  Considered,  434.  Read  the  third 
time  and passed,  440,  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without 
Amendment,  452. 
(Cited  as  Irvine  Harbour Order 
Confirmation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  491, 

ISLE  of  M A N.  Vide  ACCOUNTS, 

ISLE  of  M AN   (Customs);  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  with 
respect  to  Customs  in  the  Isle   of  Man  ;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  342,  Second  Read­
ing  deferred,  345,  351,  357,  Read  a  second  time;  Bill 
committed  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  359. 
Committee  deferred,  361.  Bill  considered in  Committee, 
and  reported,  without  Amendment;  read  the  third  time 
and  passed,  363.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  without 
(Cited as Isle of Man (Customs) Act, 
Amendment,  545. 
1909) Royal  Assent,  547. 

9  Edw. VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

J A M A I C A,  VIDE  ACCOUNTS. 

JOHN  MARSHALL'S  CHARITY   ;  Bill  to  confirm  a  Scheme 
of  the  Charity  Commissioners  for  the  management   of 
the  Charity  of  John  Marshall;  presented,  and  ordered 
to  be  read  a second  time,  70.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
86,87,  119,131,  134,  135,147,158,165.  Read  a  second 
time,  and  committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  183. 
B,  186.  Fifteen  Members  added  in  respect  of  the  Bill, 
192.  Bill  reported,  without  Amendment,  222,  Con­
sideration  (not  amended)  deferred,  231.  Considered 
(not  amended).  237.  Third  Reading  deferred,  239,  244, 
250,  281,  298,  317,  329,  351,  377,  383,  394.  Bill  read 
the  third time  and  passed, 400.  Agreed  to by the  Lords, 
without  Amendment,  463. 
Scheme  Confirmation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  491. 

(Cited as Marshall's  Charity

JONES'S  ALMSHOUSE  a nd  GRAMMAR  SCHOOL  FOUNDA­

TION ;  Bill  read  the  first  time,  and  ordered to  be  read  a  

second  time,  14.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  

27.  Second  Reading  deferred,  52,  79,  98,  117, 121,  13J. 
Order  for  Second  Reading  discharged;  Bill  withdrawn, 
144. 

IRISH 

L A ND 

COMMISSION  

(Proceedings). 

Vide 

J O U R N A L: 

ACCOUNTS. 

To  be  printed,  4. 

IRISH  L A ND  COMMISSION   (Rules).  Vide  ACCOUNTS, 

IRISH  L A ND  PURCHASE  FUND,   Vide  ACCOUNTS, 

IRISH  L A ND  STOCK.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

—	 

Entry  (14th  July  1909)  relating   to  the 
disorderly  conduct  of  a  Member  who  was  ordered  to 
withdraw  immediately  from  the  House  expunged,  pur­
suant  to  Order  of  the  House,  311. 

IRISH  NATIONAL  SCHOOLS  (Heating  and  Cleansing);
Bill  to  provide  for  the  heating  and  cleansing   of  National 
Schoolliouses  in  Ireland;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be 
read  a  second  time,  58.  Second  Reading  deferred,  72, 
75,  78,  82,  83,  86,  89,  93,  124.  Day  appointed  for 
Second  Reading,  137.  Second  Reading  deferred.  147, 
161,  165,  167,  172,  176,  212,  220,  244,  261,  264,  Order 
for  Second  Reading  discharged;  Bill  withdrawn,  285. 

IRISH 

R A I L W A YS  

(Viceregal  Commission).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

JUDICIAL  STATISTICS  

(England  and  Wales).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

JUDICIAL  STATISTICS   (Scotland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

JUSTICES  of  the  PEACE ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  with 
regard  to  the  appointment  of  Justices  of  the  Peace  ; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time, 
26.  Second  Reading  deferred,  51,  64,  81,  92,  Day 
appointed  for  Second  Reading,  143.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  147,  161,  178. 

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and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME, 

[1909. 

JUVENILE  OFFENDERS 

(Detention  and  Maintenance).

K I T C H EN  and  REFRESHMENT  ROOMS.   Vide  C O M­

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

MITTEES.  H O U SE   o f  COMMONS. 

9 Edw.  VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

JUVENILE  F E M A LE  EMPLOYMENT   ;  Bill  to  provide  for 
the  licensing  of juvenile  female  Employment  Agents  and 
the  protection  of  young  girls;  ordered;  presented 
accordingly,  and  read  the  first  time,  102. 

9 Edw. VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

L A B O UR   EXCHANGES  ;  Motion  for  leave   to  bring  in 
a  Bill  to  provide  for 
the  establishment   of  Labour 
Exchanges,  and  for  other  purposes  incidental  thereto, 
and  Question  put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order  No.  11, 
and  agreed  t o;  ordered;  presented  accordingly,  and 
read  the  first  time,  180.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
190,  211,  214,  216,  224.  Read  a  second  time,  and 
committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  233.  C,  238. 
Members  discharged,  others  appointed 
in  substitu­
tion,  238,  253.  Fifteen  Members  added  in  respect  of 
the  Bill,  238.  Reported,  Avith Amendments,  289.  Con­
sideration,  as amended, deferred, 297, 308,  315, 323,  325, 
329,  332,  335,  340.  Proceedings  not   to  be  interrupted 
under  Standing  Order  No.  1, 342.  Order  for  considera­
tion,  as amended, read;  Bill recommitted   to a  Committee 
of  the  whole  House  in  respect  of  Clause  4 ;  considered 
in  Committee,  and  reported;  Bill,  as  amended  in  the 
Standing  Committee,  and  on  recommittal,  considered  ; 
Amendments  made;  Bill  read  the third  time  and  passed, 
343.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  361. 
(Cited  as Labour 
Lords'  Amendments  agreed  to,  391. 
Exchanges  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  446. 
Vide 
ACCOUNTS. 

K I L K E N N Y,   CASTLECOMER,  and  A T HY  R A I L W AY  ; 
Report  on  Petition  for  Bill, That  Standing  Orders  have 
not  been  complied  with,  referred  to  the  Select  Com­
mittee  on  Standing  Orders,  13.  Report,  That  Standing 
Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed  with  ;  parties  to  proceed 
with  their  Bill,  34.  Bill  presented  ;  read  the  first  time, 
and referred  to  the  Examiners,  40.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  not  complied  with, 
referred  to  Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  56-7. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  ought   to  be  dispensed  with; 
parties  to  proceed  with  their  Bill,  80.  Report  read; 
Bill  to  be  read  a  second  time,  80.  Day  appointed  for 
Second  Reading,  86.  Second  Reading  deferred,  89,  98, 
111,  117.  Bill  read  a second  time,  and  committed,  127. 
Attendance  of  Witness  ordered,  137.  Reported,  with 
Amendments,  177.  Considered, as amended, 186.  Read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  204.  Agreed   to  by  the 
Lords,  with  Amendments,  463.  Lords'  Amendments, 
L A B O UR  EXCHANGES   [Salaries, $•<;.] ;  Motion  for  the 
( Cited as Kilkenny, 
pursuant to  Order,  agreed  to,  465. 
Castlecomer,  and Athy  Railway  Act, 1909) Royal  Assent,  House  to  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  of 
authorising  the  payment,  out  of  moneys  provided  by 
491. 
Parliament,  of  the  salaries  and remuneration  of  officers 
and  servants  appointed  under  any  A ct   of  the  present 
Session  to  provide  for  the  establishment   of  Labour 
Exchanges,  and  for  other  purposes  incidental  thereto, 
and  of  any  expenses  incurred  by  the  Board  of  Trade  in 
pursuance of  such  A c t  ;  King's  Recommendation  signi­
fied,  235.  Committee  deferred,  242,  246,  250,  254,  259, 
264,  268,  272.  Matter  considered 
in  Committee; 
Amendment  proposed,  to  add  words;  Closure  claimed, 
assent withheld;  Amendment  withdrawn ;  Main Question 
put, and  agreed  to, 274.  Resolution  reported, and agreed 
to,  284. 

His  Speech  reported   by  Mr.  Speaker  at  the 
opening of the  Session,  delivered  to  both  Houses,  8.   A t 
the  close of  the Session,  547. 

His  Majesty  immediately  in  the  House  of  Peers,  3. 

Commands  this  Honourable  House   to  attend 

K I L K E N NY  COUNTY   (South  Kilkenny  Division).  Vide 

K I N G: 

ELECTIONS. 

His  Answers  to  Addresses;  King's  Speech  at 
the  Opening  of  Parliament,  31.  Military  Manoeuvres 
Act,  1897  (Order  in  Council),  179. 

His  Recommendation  signified:—To  Petition 
for  Aid  (British  Museum),  16.   T o  Motions,  61,  82,  96, 
277,  401,  404. 

To  Bills  (Private),  on  Third Reading,  67,  147, 

184,  208,  241,  261,  269,  273,  275,  294,  306. 

A s  Duke  of  Lancaster,  208. 

KING'S  BENCH  JUDGES.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

KING'S  COLLEGE,  LONDON,  TRANSFER  COMMISSION. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

KING'S  SPEECH  (Motion for  an Address).  Vide  ADDRESS. 

BUSINESS   o f  t he  HOUSE. 

K I R K W A LL  W A T ER  PROVISIONAL  ORDER   ;  Bill  to 
confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Burgh  Police 
(Scotland)  Act,  1892,  relating   to  Kirkwall  W a t e r; 
presented;  read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners,  30.  Report,  no  Standing  Orders applicable ; 
Bill  (under  Section  9   of  the  Private  Legislation  Pro­
cedure  (Scotland)  A ct  1899)   to  be  read  a  second  time 
on  day  appointed,  39.  Read  a  second  time,  and  day 
appointed  for  consideration,  43.  Considered,  49.  Read 
the  third  time and  passed,  56.  Agreed  to by  the  Lords, 
without  Amendment,  142. 
(Cited  as  Kirkwall Water 
Order Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192. 

LABOURERS  (Ireland)  A C TS  AMENDMENT   ;  Bill  to  amend 
the  Labourers  (Ireland)  Acts;  presented,  and  ordered 
to be  read  a second  time,  19.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LANCASHIRE  a nd  YORKSHIRE  and  N O R TH  EASTERN 
R A I L W A YS  
[Lords];  Report,  That  the  Bill  should 
originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with,  12.  Bill 
brought  from  the  Lords,  90.  Read  the  first  time, and 
referred to the  Examiners, 91.  Report,  Standing  Orders 
not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  97.  Bill 
read  a second time,  and  committed,  108.  Reported, with 
Amendments, 262.  Considered,  as amended, 288.  Read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments,  293. 
(Cited  as  Lancashire 
To  which  the  Lords  agree,  303. 
and  Yorkshire  and North  Eastern  Raihoay  Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  381. 

L A ND  DRAINAGE  PROVISIONAL  ORDER   ;  Bill  to  con­
firm a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Land  Drainage  Act, 
1861,  in  the  matter  of  a  proposed  drainage  district  in 
the  Parish  of  Ouston,  in  the  County   of  Lincoln; 
presented;  read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners,  49.  Report,  no  Standing  Orders  applicable, 
69.  Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  72.  Bill 
reported,  without  Amendment ;  Provisional  Order  con­
firmed,  94.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  96. 
Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  with  an  Amendment,  195.  Day 
appointed  for  consideration,  196.  Lords'  Amendments 
agreed  to,  204. 
Order  (No.  1)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  380. 

(Cited  as  Land  Drainage  Provisional 

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L A ND  D R A I N A GE  PROVISIONAL  ORDER   (NO.  2 );  Bill 
to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Land  Drain-
age  Act,  1861,- in  the  matter  of  a  proposed  drainage 
district  in  the  Parishes  of  Westbury,  Minsterley,  and 
the  County   of  Salop;  presented; 
Pontesbury, 
read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  84. 
Report,  no  Standing  Orders  applicable,  102.  Read  a 
second  time,  and  committed,  106.  Reported,  with  an 
Amendment;  Provisional  Order  confirmed,  132.  Con-
sidered,  as  amended,  134.  Read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  136.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amend-
ment, 191 
Confirmation  (No.  2)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192. 

( Cited  as Land Drainage  Provisional  Order  Assent,  192. 

L E V Y I NG   of  MOTOR  CAR  D U T I ES   in  IRELAND.  Vide 

FINANCE  [ Consolidated  Fund]  COMMITTEE. 

L E Y L A ND   and  FARINGTON  GAS   ;  Bill  read  the  first  time, 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  14.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  27. 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  33.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  53.  Considered,  as  amended,  62. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  69.  Agreed   to  by  the 
Lords'  Amendments 
Lords,  with  Amendments,  163. 
(Cited as Leyland Gas Act, 1909)  Royal 
agreed  to,  167. 

L A ND  D R A I N A GE  PROVISIONAL  OEDER   (NO.  3 );  Bill   to 
confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Land  Drainage 
Act,  1861,  in  the  matter  of  a proposed  drainage  district 
in  the  Parishes  of  Haxev  and  Owston,  in the  County  of 
Lincoln;  presented  ;  read  the  first  time,  and  referred 
to  the  Examiners,  84.  Report,   no  Standing  Orders 
applicable,  102.  Read  a  second  time,  and  committed, 
106. 
Provisional 
Order  confirmed,  132.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
134.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment, 
191.  (Cited  as  Land  Drainage Provisional  Order Con­
firmation  (No. 3)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192. 

Reported,  without  Amendment. 

LAND  LAW 

(Ireland)  ACT,  1887  (Eviction  Notices').

Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

L A ND  R E G I S T R Y.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

L A ND  REGISTRY  

(New

  Buildings)  A C T,   1900.  Yide 

ACCOUNTS. 

LICENSED  PREMISES.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LICENSED  PREMISES   (Election  Days)  CLOSING  ;  Bill  to 
secure  the  closing  of  Licensed  Premises  on  Election 
Days  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a second  time, 
19.  Motion,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time ; 
Amendment  proposed,  "  six months,"  and  Question  put, 
pursuant  to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate); 
Amendment,  on  Division,  not  made;  Bill  read  a  second 
time;  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  committed  to  a  Com­
mittee of  the  whole  House,  negatived  on  Division ;  Bill 
committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  96-7.  „  A ,  102. 
Members  discharged,  others  appointed,  112,  114,  126, 
129.  Fourteen  Members  added  in  respect  of  the  Bill, 
112.  One  Member  added,  117.  Reported,  with 
for  consideration,  as 
Amendments; 
amended,  156.  Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred, 
240,  256,  261,  285,  288/291.  Day  appointed  for  con­
sideration,  as amended,  300.  Consideration,  as  amended, 
deferred,  308,  319,  326,  333,  351,  357,  362.  368,  377, 
383,  394. 

day  appointed 

L A ND  T R A N S F ER  A C TS

(Royal  Commission).  Vide 

LICENCES.  Vide  W A YS   and  M E A N S. 

ACCOUNTS. 

LAND  VALUE  DUTIES

(Additional  Payment 

to  Local 

Authorities).  Vide  W A YS   and  M E A N S. 

L A ND  VALUES  D U T I E S.   Vide  W A YS   and  MEANS. 

L A ND  V A L U ES  T A X A T I ON   ;  Motion,  That, in  the  opinion 
of  this House,  the taxation   of  Land  Values  would  result 
in  the  owners  of  land  and  minerals  developing  these 
national  resources  more  rapidly,  &c.;  Amendment  pro­
leave  out  words  and  add  others,  and  at 
posed,  to 
Eleven  of  the  clock  Debate  stood  adjourned;   no  day 
fixed  for  resumption,  74-5. 

L AW  A G E N TS   (Scotland)  A CT  AMENDMENT   ;  Bill  to 
amend the Law Agents (Scotland)  Act,  1873 ;  presented, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  44.  Second 
Reading  deferred, 59,  72,  75,  86,  101,  116,  124,  128,  133, 
139,  142,  154,  158.  Day  appointed for  Second  Reading, 
169.  Second  Reading  deferred,  216,  231, 247,  261,  281. 

LAWLESSNESS 

in 

I R E L A N D. 

Vide  KING'S 

SPEECH 

(Motionfor  an  Address). 

L AW   of  M U R D ER  (Amendment) ;  Bill  to  classify  Murders, 
and  to  amend  the  Law  with  regard   to  Suicide  and 
Infanticide;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  32.  Second  Reading  deferred,  47,  61,  75,  97,  120. 
Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  205.  Second  Read­
ing  deferred,  212,  231. 

LEASEHOLDS  (.Enfranchisement);  Bill  to  provide  for  the 
enfranchisement  of  Leaseholds  ;  presented,  and  ordered 
to  be read  a second  time,  123.  Second Reading  deferred, 
145,  171,  175.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  205. 

LEPROSY 

(International  Scientific  Conference  of  1909). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LICENSING  ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Licensing  Acts,   1 8 26  to 
1906 ;  presented,  and  ordered to  be  read  a second  time, 
46.  Second  Reading  deferred,  59,  78,  92,  101. 

LICENSING  (Ireland);  Bill  to  provide  for  the  better 
administration  of  the  Licensing  Laws  in  Ireland,  and  for 
other  purposes  connected  therewith  ;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  19. 

LICENSING  JUSTICES   ;  Bill  to  assimilate  the  Law  as  to 
the  privilege  of  Licensing  Justices  with  that  applicable 
to  Justices  sitting  in  Courts  of  Summary  Jurisdiction  ; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  19. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  56,  60,  62,  64,  78,  83,  101, 
119. 

LICENSING  STATISTICS,   1908.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

L I C H F I E LD  a nd  LONGDON  CONGREGATIONAL  CHAPELS 
and  TRUST  PROPERTY  C H A R I TY   ;  Bill  to  confirm  a 
Scheme  of  the  Charity  Commissioners  for  the  manage­
ment  of  the  Charities  consisting  of  the  Congregational 
Chapel  in  Wade  Street, in  the  City   of  Lichfield, and  the 
Congregational  Chapel  at  Longdon,  in  the  County  of 
Stafford, and  the  Trust  Property  held  in  connection  with 
such  chapels;  presented, and ordered  to  be read  a  second 
time,  70.  Second  Reading  deferred,  86,  87,  119,  131, 
134,  135,  147,  158,  165.  Read  a  second  time,  and 
committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  183.  B,  186. 
Fifteen  Members  added  in  respect  of  the  Bill,  192. 
Bill  reported,  without  Amendment,  222.  Consideration 
(not amended), deferred, 231.  Considered (not amended), 
237.  Third  Reading  deferred,  239,  244,  250,  281,  298, 
317,  329,  351,  377,  383,  394.  Bill  read  the  third  time 
and  passed,  400.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without 
Amendment,  463. 
Congregational  Chapels Scheme Confirmation  Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  491. 

(Cited  as  Lichfield and  Longdon 

VOL.  164. 

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L I FE  ASSURANCE  COMPANIES.   Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

LOCAL  ADMINISTRATION 

a nd  T A X A T I ON 

(London);

LIGHTHOUSES,  &C.  (Local Inspections).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

L I G HT  R A I L W A YS  A C T,  1896.   Y i de   ACCOUNTS. 

LISBURN  GAS   [Lords] ;  Report,  That  the  Bill  should 
originate  in  the  House of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  certified  to have  been complied  with,  12. 

LISBURN  U R B AN  DISTRICT  COUNCIL   [Lords'];  Report, 
That  the  Bill  should  originate  in  the House  of  Lords,  10. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  certified   to  have  been  complied 
with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords,  196.  Read  the first 
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  197.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  217.  Bill  read  a  second  time, and  committed,  224. 
Reported  from Local  Legislation  Committee  (Section  A ), 
with  Amendments,  277.  Considered,  as  amended,  294. 
Day  appointed  for  Third  Reading,  306.  Bill  read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments,  310.  
To 
which  the  Lords  agree, 324. 
District  Council Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited  as Lisburn  Urban 

L I S K E A RD  a nd  CARADON  R A I L W A YS  (  Vesting,  8$c.)  B I L L. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS.  LISKEARD   and  L O O E,  &C. 

LISKEARD  a nd  L O OE  a nd  LISKEARD  a nd  CARADON 

(  Vesting,  $c.)  [Lords];  Report,  That  the 
R A I L W A YS 
Bill  should originate  in  the  House  of Lords,  10.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with, 
12.  Bill  brought  from  the  Lords  ;  read  the  first  time, 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  94.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  97. 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  108. 
-Reported, 
with  Amendments,  163.  Considered,  as  amended,  172. 
Prince  of  Wales'  Consent  as  Duke  of  Cornwall  signified  ; 
Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed, with  Amendments, 
(Cited as Great 
184.  To  which  the  Lords  agree,  192. 
Western  Railway,  Liskeard and  Looe,  and Liskeard  and 
Caradon Railways Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192. 

LITTLEHAMPTON  GAS   ;  Bill  read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  14.  Report, Standing  Orders 
not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  27.  Bill 
read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  33.  Reported, with 
Amendments, 65.  Considered, as amended, 75.  Bill read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  84.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords, 
with  Amendments,  160.  Lords'  Amendments  agreed  to, 
167. 
192. 

(Cited as Littlehampton  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 

LIVERPOOL  CORPORATION   [Lords] ;  Report,  That  the 
Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of Lords,  10,  Report, 
Standing  Orders  certified to  have  been complied  with,  12. 
Bill  brought  from  the  Lords,  90.  Read  the  first  time, 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  91.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  97. 
Bill  read  a second  time, and  committed,  108.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  233.  Considered,  as  amended,  269. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed, with  Amendments,  275. 
T o  which  the  Lords  agree,  286. 
(Cited  as Liverpool 
Corporation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

Instruction  to  the  Committee,  67.  R e­

L L A N E L LY  W A T ER   ;  Bill  read  the first time,  and  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time,  14.  Read  a second  time,  and 
committed,  25. 
ported, with Amendments,  148,  Considered,  as amended ; 
Amendments  made,  184,  Bill  read  the  third  time  and 
passed  [New  Title],  191.  Agreed   to by  the  Lords,  with 
Amendments,  353.  Lords'  Amendments  (pursuant   to 
Order  (agreed  to,  358. 
Act.  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited  as Llanelly  Waterworks 

L O AN  F U ND  BOARD   (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LOAN  SOCIETIES.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

Motion,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House,  there  is 
urgent  need  for  the  reform   of  Local  Government  in 
London;  Closure  claimed;  Mr.  Speaker  withholds  his 
assent, and at Eleven of  the clock Debate  stood  adjourned; 
no  day  fixed  for  resumption,  143. 

LOCAL  A U T H O R I T I ES   (Advertising)-,  Bill  to  enable  Local 
Authorities  to  advertise  the  attractions  and  advantages 
of  their  districts  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second  time,  91.  Second  Reading  deferred,  135,  146, 
165,219,  254,  236,  239. 

LOCAL  AUTHORITIES   (Legal  Expenses);  Bill  to  enable 
Local  Authorities   to  contribute  towards  the  expenses  of 
legal  proceedings  and  Private  and  other  Bills  involving 
questions  of  common  interest;  presented,  and  ordered  to 
be read a second time, 21.  Second Reading deferred,  120, 
133.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  142,  160. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  175,  191.  Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  218.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
231, 244,  261,  281,  299,  309,  326. 

LOCAL  AUTHORITIES  ( Taxation  and  Purchase  of  Land)  ; 
Bill  to  provide  for  the  taxation  and  purchase   of  Land  by 
Local  Authorities;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a 
second  time,  24. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  51,  61. 
Order  for  Second  Reading   on  future  day  discharged; 
Bill  withdrawn,  63. 

L O C AL  CONTRIBUTIONS   (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LOCAL  EDUCATION  AUTHORITIES  (Medical 

Treatment);
Bill  to  provide  for  the  recovery   by  Local  Education 
Authorities  of  costs  for  Medical  Treatment   of  children 
attending  public  elementary  schools  in  England  and 
Wales;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a second  time, 
95.  Second  Reading  deferred,  101,  105,  113.  Read 
a  second  time,  and  committed  to  a  Standing  Committee, 
116.   A ,  119.  Members  discharged,  others  appointed, 
126.  Fifteen  Members  added  in  respect  of  the  Bill, 
126.  Member  discharged,  another  appointed,  142.  R e­
ported,  without  Amendment,  from  Standing  Committee; 
day  appointed  for  consideration,  173.  Day  appointed 
for  consideration  (not  amended),  242.  Consideration 
(not  amended,) deferred, 246,250,  254,  260,264,268,  272, 
281,  285,  291.  Day  appointed  for  consideration 
(not 
amended),  300.  Consideration  (not  amended)  deferred, 
308,  317,  326.  Considered  (not  amended);  Clause 
added  ;  Bill  read the third  time and passed, 329.  Agreed 
to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  460. 
(Cited as 
Local Education  Authorities (Medical  Treatment)  Act, 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  491. 

LOCAL  GOVERNMENT   A C T,  1888.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LOCAL  GOVERNMENT  (Audit  of  Accounts)  (Ireland)  ; 
Bill  to  amend  the  Law  relating  to  the  audit  of  the 
accounts  of  public  bodies  in  Ireland,  and  of  committees 
appointed  by  such  bodies,  and  for  other  purposes  con­
nected  therewith;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second  time,  214.  Second  Reading  deferred,  230,  243, 
260,  280,  297,  316,  332,  350,  366,  383,  397,  400,  403, 
407,  409,  410,  417,  420.  Order  for  Second  Reading 
discharged;  Bill  withdrawn,  425. 

L O C AL  GOVERNMENT  BOARD.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LOCAL  GOVERNMENT  (Ireland)  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS 
(No.  1)  [Lords];  Bill,  intituled   An  Act   to  confirm 
certain  Provisional  Orders  of  the  Local  Government 
Board  for  Ireland  relating   to  the  Rural  Districts  of 
Castlereagh,  Middleton,  and  Naas  (No.  1),  and  the 
Foranwell  Drainage  District, in  the  County  of  Kildare  ; 
brought  from  the  Lords,  196.  Read  the  first  time,  and 
referred to the  Examiners,  197.  Report,  Standing Orders 
applicable  thereto  complied  with,  234.  Read  a  second 

 
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(No.  1)  [Lords']—continued, 

time,  and  committed,  238.  Reported,  without  Amend­
ment  ;  Provisional  Orders  confirmed,  269.  Read  the 
( Cited 
third  time  and  passed,  without  Amendment,  274. 
as Local Government  Board (Ireland) Provisional  Orders 
Confirmation  (No.  1)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  380. 

L O C AL  G O V E R N M E NT  (Ireland)  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS 
(No. 2)  [Lords] ;  Bill, intituled  An  Act to confirm certain 
Provisional  Orders  of  the  Local  Government  Board  for 
Ireland  relating to  the  City  of  Dublin,  the  Londonderry 
Port  Sanitary  Authority,  and  the  Urban  District   of 
Queenstown;  brought  from  the  Lords,  196.  Read  the 
first time, Mid  referred  to the  Examiners,  197.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  applicable  thereto  complied  with,  234. 
Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  238.  Reported, 
without  Amendment;  Provisional  Orders confirmed, 269. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  without  Amendment, 
274. 
Provisional  Orders  Confirmation (No.  2) Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  380. 

(Cited  as  Local  Government  Board  (Ireland) 

L O C AL  G O V E R N M E NT 

(Ireland) 

PROVISIONAL  O R D ER 
(No.  3 );  Bill   to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order   of  the 
Local  Government  Board  for  Ireland  relating   to  the 
Gorteen  Drainage  District, in  the  County  of  Kildare  ; 
presented;  read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to 
the 
Examiners,  194.  Report,  no  Standing  Orders  applic­
able,  210.  Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  213. 
Reported,  with  Amendments  ;  Provisional  Order  con­
firmed, 252.  Considered,  as  amended,  255.  Read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  257.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords, 
without  Amendment,  312. 
Board (Ireland)  Provisional  Order  Confirmation  (No. 3) 
Act, 1909)  Royal  Assent,  380. 

(Cited  as Local  Government 

LOCAL  G O V E R N M E NT  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS 

(Gas);

Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders   of  the  Local 
Government  Board  relating  to  Ilkeston  and  Ynyscyn­
haiarn;  presented;  read  the  first  time,  and  referred   to 
the  Examiners,  142.  Report,  Standing Orders applicable 
thereto  complied  with,  162.  Bill  read  a  second  time, 
and  committed,  165.  Reported,  with  Amendments; 
Provisional  Orders  confirmed,  252. 
Considered,  as 
amended,  255.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  257. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with  an  Amendment,  337. 
Day  appointed  for  consideration,  337.  Lords'  Amend­
ment  agreed  to,  341.  (Cited as Local Government Boards 
Provisional  Orders Confirmation  (Gas)  Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  381. 

L O C AL  G O V E R N M E NT  PROVISIONAL  O R D ER 

(Poor 
Law)  ;  Bill  to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  of  the  Local 
Government  Board  relating  to  Southampton;  presented; 
read  the  first  time,  and  referred   to  the  Examiners,  98. 
Report,  no  Standing  Orders  applicable,  114.  Read  a 
second  time,  and  committed,  117.  Reported,  with 
Amendments,  163.  Considered,  as  amended,  165.  Read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  168.  Agreed   to  by  the 
Lords,  without  Amendment,  334. 
(Cited  as  Local 
Government  Boards  Provisional  Order  Confirmation 
(Poor Law)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

(No.

L O C AL  GOVERNMENT  PROVISIONAL  O R D E RS 

  1 ) ; 
Bill  to confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders  of  the  Local 
Government  Board  relating   to  Bridlington,  Dorking, 
Newport  Pagnell  (Rural),  and  Totnes  ;  presented;  read 
the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  125. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
complied  with,  144.  Bill  read  a second  time,  and  com­
mitted, 148.  Reported, without Amendment;  Provisional 
Orders  confirmed,  183.  Third  Reading  deferred,  184. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  186.  Agreed   to  by 
the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  334. 
(Cited  as Local 
Government Boards  Provisional  Orders  Confirmation 
(No.  1)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

L O C AL  G O V E R N M E NT  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS  (No.   2 )  : 
Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders  of  the  Local 
Government  Board  relating  to  Derby,  Oswaldtwistle, 
Wallasey,  and  Walsall;  presented  ;  read  the  first  time, 
and  referred  to the  Examiners,  125.  Report,  no  Standing 
Orders  applicable,  144.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed,  148.  Reported,  without  Amendment  ;  Pro­
visional  Orders confirmed, 180.  Third Reading  deferred, 
184.  Read  the  third  time  and passed,  186.  Agreed   to 
by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  334. 
(Cited as 
Local  Government  Board's Provisional  Orders  Confirma­
tion  (No. 2)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

L O C AL  G O V E R N M E NT  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS  (NO.

  3 )  ; 
Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders  of  the  Local 
Government  Board  relating  to  Cardiff,  Fiilwood,  and 
Newport  (Monmouth);  presented;  read  the  first  time, 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners.  150.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  applicable  thereto  complied  with,  176.  Bill  read 
a  second  time,  and  committed,  179.  Reported,  with 
Amendments  ; 
Provisional  Orders  confirmed,  252. 
Considered, as amended,  255.  Read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  257.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amend­
ment,  334. 
visional  Orders  Confirmation  (No.  3)  ^ct,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  381. 

(Cited  as  Local  Government  Boards  Pro­

L O C AL  GOVERNMENT  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS  (NO. 

4 ); 

Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders   of  the  Local 
Government  Board  relating   to  Bexhill,  Liversedge, 
Warrington,  Widnes,  and  Worcester;  presented;  read 
the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  150. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  applicable  thereto  complied 
with,  176.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed, 
179.  Reported,  without  Amendment;  Provisional 
Orders  confirmed,  252.  BiU  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  255.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amend­
ment,  334. 
visional  Orders Confirmation  (No.   4 )  Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  381. 

(Cited  as  Local  Government  Boards  Pro­

  5 ) 

L O C AL  GOVERNMENT  P R O V I S I O N AL  ORDERS  (No,

; 
Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders  of  the  Local 
Government  Board  relating  to  Kendal,  Milton  Regis, 
Surbiton,  the  Isle  of  Wight  Joint  Hospital  District, 
the  Scunthorpe  and  Crosby  Joint  Sewerage  District, 
and  the  District  of  the  Accrington  District  Gas  and 
Water  Board;  presented  ;  read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  172.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  applicable  thereto  complied  with,  204.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  206.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed,  209.  Reported,  without  Amendment;  Pro­
visional  Orders  confirmed, 252.  Bill  read  the third  time 
and  passed,  255.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  without 
Amendment,  334. 
Provisional  Orders  Confirmation (No.  5)  Act, 1909)  Royal 
Assent,  381. 

(Cited  as  Local  Government  Board's 

L O C AL  G O V E R N M E NT  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS  (NO. 

6);
Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders  of  the  Local 
Government  Board  relating   to  Batley  and  Dewsbury; 
presented;  read  the  first  time,  and  referred   to  the 
Examiners,  172.  Report,  Standing  Orders  applicable 
thereto  complied  with, 204.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
206.  Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  209.  Bill 
reported,  with  Amendments;  Provisional  Orders  con­
firmed,  327.  Considered,  as  amended,  330.  Bill  read 
the  third  time  and passed,  333.  Agreed   to by the  Lords, 
with  Amendments;  day  appointed  for considering  them, 
489.  Lords'  Amendments  considered,  and  agreed  to, 
(Cited  as  Local  Government  Boards  Provisional 
490. 
Orders  Confirmation  (No.  6)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
539. 

L O C AL  GOVERNMENT  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS 

7); 
Bill  to  confirm certain  Provisional  Orders  of  the  Local 

(IVO. 

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continued. 

Government  Board  relating  to  Birmingham  and  Wake-
field  ;  presented;  read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to 
the  Examiners,  172.  Report,  Standing  Orders  applicable 
thereto  complied  with,  204.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
206.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  209. 
Reported,  with  Amendments;  Provisional  Orders  con-
firmed,  271.  Considered,  as  amended,  274.  Read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  276.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords, 
(Cited as Local  Government 
without  Amendment,  353. 
Boards  Provisional Orders Confirmation  (No.  7)  Act, 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

LOCAL  GOVERNMENT  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS  (NO.  8 ); 
Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders  of  the  Local 
Government  Board  relating   to  Birkenhead,  Coventry, 
and  the  Oakwell  Joint  Hospital  District;  presented; 
read  the  first  time,  and referred  to  the  Examiners,  194. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  applicable  thereto  complied 
with,  215.  Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  217. 
Reported,  without  Amendment  ;  Provisional  Orders 
confirmed,  270.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  274. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  334. 
(Cited as  Local  Government  Board's Provisional  Orders 
Confirmation  (No. 8)  Act, 1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

LOCAL  GOVERNMENT  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS  (No. 

9); 
Bill  to  confirm certain  Provisional  Orders  of  the  Local 
Government  Board  relating  to  Maryport,  the  Hitchin 
Joint  Hospital  District,  and  the  Whaley  Bridge  Joint 
Sewerage  District;  presented,  262. 
Standing  Order 
193a  suspended;  Bill  read  the  first  time,  and  referred 
to  the  Examiners,  265.  Report,  Standing  Orders 
applicable  thereto  complied  with,  302.  Bill  read  a 
second  time,  and  committed,  306.  Bill  reported,  with 
Amendments  ;  Provisional  Orders  confirmed, 331.  Con-
sidered,  as  amended,  333.  Bill  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  336.  Agreed   to by  the  Lords,  with  an  Amend-
ment, 469.  Lords'Amendment  agreed  to,  471.  (Cited 
as  Local  Government  Boards  Provisional Orders  Con-
firmation  (No.  9)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  491. 

to  them  (other  than Clauses  containing  Police,  Sanitary, 
or  other  Local  Government  regulations)  are  such  as, 
having  regard  to  the  terms  of  reference,  it  is  not,  in 
their  opinion,  necessary  or  advisable  for  them   to  deal 
with,  the  Committee  of  Selection  shall  thereupon  refer 
the  Bill  to  a  Select  Committee,  who  shall  consider  those 
Clauses,  and  so  much  of  the  Preamble  of  the  Bill  as 
relates  thereto,  and  shall  determine  the  expenditure  (if 
any)  to  be  authorised  in  respect  of  the  parts  of  the  Bill 
referred  to  them;  that  the  Committee  shall  deal  with 
the  remaining  Clauses  of  such  Bill,  and  so much  of  the 
Preamble  as  relates  thereto,  and  shall  determine  the 
period  and  mode  of  repayment of  any  money  authorised 
by  the  Select  Committee  to  be  borrowed,  and  shall 
report  the  whole  Bill   to  the  House,  stating  in  their 
Report  what parts of  the  Bill  have  been  considered   by 
each  Committee  ;  Order,  That  the  Committee  have 
power, if  they  so  determine,  to  sit  as  two  Committees, 
and in  that  event  to  apportion  the  Bills  referred  to  the 
Committee  between  the  two  Committees,  each  of  which 
shall  have  the  full  powers  of,  and  be  subject  to  the 
Instructions  which  apply  to,  the  undivided  Committee, 
and  that Four  be  the  quorum  of  each  of  the  two  Com­
mittees,  43. 

Bills  reported  from  the  Committee:— 
Mountain  Ash  Urban District  Council  Bill,  83.  City   of 
London  (Street  Traffic)  Bill,  145.  Oldham  Corporation 
Bill  [costs  awarded],  173.  Watford  Urban  District 
Council  Bil.l,  180.  Greenock  Corporation  Bill,  216. 
Cardiff  Corporation  Bill, 233.  Prestatyn  Urban  District 
Council  Bill,  248.  Manchester  Corporation  Bill,  252. 
Lisburn  Urban  District  Council  Bill,  277.  London 
County  Council  (General  Powers)  Bill, 286.  Heywood 
Corporation  Bill,  302.  Bury  Corporation  Bill,  337. 

the  Bill  as relates  to  the  Prestatyn  Gas  Order),  249. 

Gas  Provisional  Order  Bill  (so  much   of 

(Section  B). 

Attendance  of  Witness  ordered,  87,  252 

Part  of  a  Bill  referred  to  the  Committee, 
and  Committee  reports  that  the  Order  ought  not   to  be 
confirmed,  249. 

for  being  — 

Special  Report,  392. 

LOCAL  GOVERNMENT  QUALIFICATION 

(E n g l a nd  and 

Wales);  Bill  to  extend  the  qualification 
elected  on  County  and  Borough  Councils;  presented, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  19.  Motion, 
That the  Bill  be now read  a second time ; Debate  arising; 
Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld,  and  at  Five   of  the 
clock  Debate  stood  adjourned,  149.  Day  appointed 
for  resumption   of  adjourned  Debate,  156,  187,  205. 
Adjourned  Debate  further  adjourned,  215,  231.  Day 
appointed  for  resumption  of  adjourned  Debate,  249. 
Adjourned  Debate  further  adjourned,  264,  270.  Day 
appointed  for  resumption   of  adjourned  Debate,  360. 
Adjourned  Debate  further  adjourned,  377,  395. 

LOCAL  GOVERNMENT  

(Scotland);  Bill  to  amend  the 
Local  Government  (Scotland)  Act,  1894;  presented, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  76.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  92.  Vide   ACCOUNTS. 

LOCAL  LOANS  F U N D.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LOCAL  REGISTRATION   of  T I T LE 

(Ireland) ;  Bill  to 
make  provision  with  respect  to  the  application  of  the 
Local  Registration   of  Title  (Ireland)  A c t,  1891,  to  the 
County   o f  Cork  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time,  465.  Second  Reading  deferred,  470, 
475.  Read  a  second  time  ;  Bill  committed   to  a  Com-
mittee  of  the  whole  House,  478.  Committee  deferred, 
482, 485.  Considered  in  Committee, and  reported,  with-
out  Amendment;  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  490. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  531. 
(Cited as Local Registration  of  Title (Ireland)  Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  539. 

LOCAL  REGISTRATION   o f  T I T LE  (Ireland)  A C T,  1 8 9 1. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LOCAL  LEGISLATION  COMMITTEE  ;   Order,  That  fhe 
Committee  of  Selection  do  nominate  a  Committee,  not 
exceeding Fifteen  Members,  to be called the Local  Legis-
lation  Committee, to whom  shall be  committed  all Private 

Bills  promoted  by  municipal  and  other  local  authorities 
by  which  it  is  proposed  to  create  powers  relating  to 
Police,  Sanitary, or  other  Local  Government  regulations  

in  conflict  with,  deviation  from,  or  excess  of  the provi-
sions of  the  general  Law  ;  Order,  That  Standing  Orders  

150  and  173a  apply  to  all  such  Bills;  power   to  send  for 
persons,  papers,  and  records;  Four   to  be  the  quorum  ;  

Order,  That  if  the  Committee  shall  report to  the  Com- LOCAL  TAXATION  RETURNS 
mittee of  Selection  that  any  Clauses  of  any  Bill  referred 

LOCAL  T A X A T I O N.  
an  Address). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


LOCAL  T A X A T I ON  ACCOUNT,   1908-9,  and  L O C AL  T A X A-


TION  LICENCES.  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


LOCAL  T A X A T I ON   (Ireland)  ACCOUNT.  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


LOCAL  T A X A T I ON  LICENCES,   1908-9.  Vide   ACCOUNTS.  


Vide  KING'S  SPEECH   (Motion  for

(England 

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T A X A T I ON  

(Scotland) 

ACCOUNT. 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 


LONDON  and  NOBTH  W E S T E RN  R A I L W AY   ;  Bill  read  the 
first time, and  referred to  the  Examiners;  Report,  Stand­
ing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with, 
25.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  31.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  34,  60,  72,  87,  111,  117,  121,  129. 
time; 
Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a  second 
Amendment  proposed,  "  six  months,"  and  withdrawn: 
Bill  read  a  second time,  and  committed,  146.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  218.  Day  appointed  for  considera­
tion,  as amended, 232.  Bill considered,  as amended, 234. 
Day  appointed for  Third  Reading,  241.  Third  Reading 
deferred,  248,  257.  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
269.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment, 
312. 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

( Cited as London  and  North  Western Railway  Act, 

LONDON  a nd  SOUTH  W E S T E RN  R A I L W AY 

[Lords'] 

; 
Report,  That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the  House  of 
Lords,  10.  Report,  Stauding  Orders  certified   to  have 
been  complied  with,  12.  Bill  brought  from  the  Lords, 
90.  Read  the first time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners, 
91.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired 
into  complied  with,  144.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  155.  Second  Reading  deferred,  159,  182,  208. 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  213.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  235.  Considered,  as  amended,  255. 
King's  Consent  signified;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  with  Amendments,  261.   To  which  the  Lords 
agree,  271.  (Cited as South Western  Railway- Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  381. 

LONDON,  C H A T H A M,  a nd  D O V ER  R A I L W AY 

[Lords];

Report,  That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the  House   of 
Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified   to  have 
been  complied  with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords;  read 
the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  76. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
complied  with,  83.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  com­
mitted,  98.  Reported,  without  Amendment,  117.  Con­
sidered,  125.  Day  appointed  for  Third  Reading,  134. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  without  Amendment, 
136. 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192. 

(Cited  as  London,  Chatham,  and  Dover  Railway 

LONDON  COUNTY  COUNCIL   (Money)  ;  Bili  to  regulate  

the  expenditure  of  money  by  the  London  County 
Council  on. capital  account  during  the  current  financial  

period,  and  the raising  of  money  to  meet  such  expendi­
ture,  and  for  other  purposes ;  presented ;  read  the first 

time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  111.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  applicable  complied  with,  121.  D ay 
appointed  for  Second  Reading,  136.  Second  Reading  

deferred,  144,  164,  168.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  

committed,  186.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  289. 
Considered,  as  amended;  Standing  Orders  223  and  243  

suspended;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  299.  

Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with  an  Amendment,  353. 
Lords'  Amendment  (pursuant   to  Order)  agreed  to,  358.  

(Cited as  London County  Council (Money)  Act,  1909)  

Royal  Assent,  381.  


LONDON  COUNTY  COUNCIL  

(Money)  B I L L. 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

LONDON  COUNTY  COUNCIL  (Tramways 

and 

Improve­

ments) ;  Report  from  the  Select  Committee   on  Standing 
Orders,  on  Petition  for  dispensing  with  Standing  Order 
128, That  the  Standing  Order ought  to be dispensed  with, 
34.  Examiners'  Report   on  Petition  for  Bill,  That  the 
Standing  Orders  have  not  been  complied  with,  referred 
to  the  Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  36.  Re­
port,  That  the  Standing  Orders  ought   to  be  dispensed 
with,  45.  Bill  read  the  first  time,  and  ordered   to  be 
read  a  second  time,  52.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  60.  Second  Reading  deferred,  62.  Read  a 
second  time,  and  committed,  67.  Petition  for  addi­
tional  provision  referred  to  the  Examiners,  108.  Report 
on  Petition  for  additional  provision,  Standing  Orders 
not  complied  with, referred  to  the  Select  Committee  on 
Standing  Orders,  119.  Report,  Standing  Orders  ought 
to  be  dispensed  with;  parties  to  insert  additional  pro­
vision, &c.,  126.  Attendance   of  Witness  ordered,  151. 
Report,  on  Petition  for  dispensing  with  Standing  Order 
128,  Standing  Order  ought  to  be  dispensed  with,  156. 
Reported,  with  Amendments;  powers  struck  out; 
additional  provision 
(Title  amended),  225. 
Considered,  as  amended;  Amendments  made,  241. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  251.  Agreed   to  by 
the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  342.  Lords'  Amend­
(Cited as London  County  Council 
ments  agreed  to,  346. 
(Tramways and Improvements) Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
381. 

inserted 

for  Second  Reading,  23. 

LONDON  COUNTY  COUNCIL   (General Powers)  ;  Bill  read 
the  first  time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  15. 
Day  appointed 
Second 
Reading  deferred,  25,  31.  Report  from  Select  Com­
mittee on Standing Orders, on Petition  for dispensing with 
Standing  Order  128 in  the case  of  the  Petition  against 
the  Bill, the  Standing  Order  ought   to  be  dispensed  with, 
45.  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a second  time; 
Amendment  proposed,  "  six  months,"  and  not  made; 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  55.  Motion 
for  Instructions   to  the  Committee  withdrawn,  80-1. 
Petition 
for  additional  provision  referred   to  the  Ex­
aminers,  108.  Report  on  Petition  for  additional  pro­
vision,  Standing  Orders  not  complied  with,  referred 
to  Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  119.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed  with;  parties 
to insert  additional  provision,  &c.,  126.  Reported  from 
the  Local  Legislation  Committee  (Section  A ),  with 
Amendments;  additional  provision  inserted,  pursuant 
(Title  amended),  286.  Considered,   as 
to  Resolution 
amended;  Standing  Orders  223  and  243  suspended; 
King's  Consent  signified;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  294.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amend­
ments,  361.  Lords'  Amendments  (pursuant   to  Order) 
agreed  to,  363.  (Cited  as  London  County  Council 
(General Powers) Act,  1908)  Royal  Assent,  382. 

LONDON  COUNTY  COUNCIL.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LONDON  E L E C T I O N S;   Motion 

for  leave  to  bring  in  a 
Bill  to constitute London  a single parliamentary  borough, 
and  for  purposes  incidental  thereto,  and  otherwise   to 
amend  the  Law  relating   to  the  form  of  Lists,  and 
Registers  of  Voters  and  the  holding  of  Elections  in 
London  ;  and  Question put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order 
No.  11,  and  agreed  t o;  presented  accordingly,  and  read 
the first time,  109.  Second  Reading  deferred,  113,  116. 
124,  138,  141,  153,  171,  190.  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be 
now  read  a second  time;  Amendment  proposed,   to  leave 
out  words  and  add  others;  Question  put,  pursuant  to 
Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate);  Amendment  not 
made ;  Bill  read  a  second  time  on  Division  ;  Motion, 
That  the  Bill   be  committed  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole 
House,  negatived  on  Division;  Bill  committed   to  a 
Standing  Committee,  209-10.   C,  213.  Members  dis­
charged,  others  appointed  in  substitution,  214,  216,  225. 
Fifteen Members  added in  respect of  the  Bill,  214.  Bill 
reported, without  Amendment,  235.  Consideration  (not 
amended^ deferred,  244,  246,  260,  279,  284,  297,  316, 
323,  325,  332,  350,  367,  382,  397, 401,  403,  413,  417, 
420,  425,  432,  436,  442,445,  451,  462, 474,  482,  485. 
Order  for  consideration  (not  amended   in  the  Standing 
Committee)  read ;  Motion  made  to  recommit  the  Bill  to 
a  Committee  of  the  whole  House  (Member  directed   to 
discontinue  his  speech);  Question  negatived  on  Divi­

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LONDON  ELECTIONS—continued. 

sion;  Bil]  considered;  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now-
read  the  third  time  ;  Amendment  proposed,  to  leave  out 
words  and  add  others, on Division,  not  made  ;  Bill  read 
the  third  time  and passed,  487. 

LONDON  ELECTIONS  B I L L.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LONDON  ELECTRIC  SUPPLY   ;  Bill  to  constitute  the  Lon­

don  County  Council  the  purchasing  authority  in  respect  

of  the  undertakings  of  certain  Electric  Lighting  Com­
panies  in  London  to  which  the  London  Electric  Supply  

Act,  1908,  does  not  apply,  and  for  purposes  incidental  

thereto;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  

time, 40.  Second  Reading  deferred,  44.  Examiners   to  

examine  Bill  with  respect  to  compliance  with  Standing  

Orders,  45.  Second  Reading  deferred,  48,  52.  E x­
aminers'  report,  Standing  Orders  applicable  thereto  not  

complied  with,  referred  to  the  Select  Committee  on 
Standing  Orders, 57.  Second  Reading  deferred,  59,  62,  

64,  71.  Report,  Standing  Orders  ought   to  be  dispensed  

with;  Bill   to  proceed,  80.  Second  Reading  deferred,  

85,  100,  106,110,  123,  138,  153,  170,  189,  211,  223,  243,  

259,  275,  279,  284,  297,  316,  323,  325,  329,  332,  335,  

340,  344, 345,  351,  357, 359,  367,  383.  Bill  withdrawn,  

397. 

LONDON  (Equalisation  of  Rates)  ACT,  1894  (Accounts 
under  Section  1 (7)  of the  Act).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LONDON  QUARTER  SESSIONS  (Departmental  Committee). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

LONDON  U N I T ED  T R A M W A YS   [.Lords];  Report,  That  the 
Bill  should  originate  in  the House  of Lords,  10.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with, 
12. 

LORD  M A Y OR   of  D U B L I N;   Petition  for  alteration   of 

the  Finance  Bill,  presented  at  the  Bar,  217. 

L O R D S: 

MESSAGES  FROM   : — 

By  one  of  their  Clerks,  bringing  Bills,  49,  


303,  &c.  


Communicating  Minutes  of  Evidence  on 

Torrens'  Divorce  Bill,  80. 

Agreement  to  Bills  without  Amendment, 

258,  &c.  With  Amendments,  258,  &c. 

Concurring  with  a  Resolution  of  this  House  


as to  the  appointment  of  a Joint  Committee,  286,  289.  


—  To  acquaint  them  that  they  have  appointed  

a  Select  Committee  of  Five  Members   to  join  with  a  

Committee  to  be  appointed  by  the  Lords,  &c.,  291,  309.  


Agreeing  with the  Lords  as.to  place  and  time  


of  meeting  of  a Joint  Committee,  313,  322.  


Communicating  Reasons  for  disagreeing   to 
(Public), 

Lords'  Amendments   to  Bills  (Private),  476. 
522,  538,  544.  


LORDS'  AMENDMENTS   : — 

Consideration  of,  put  off  for  three  months 

(Private  Bill),  490. 

Considered, after Amendment,"three  months," 

proposed,  and,  on  Division,  not  made,  524. 

That  the  Question  of  agreement  or  disagree­

ment  be put  with respect  to  the  Amendments  as a  whole, 

on  Division  agreed  to,  529,  


Disagreed  to  as a whole,  529. 

Words  restored  to  the  Bill  amended,  519. 

Divided,  516-18,  540.  


Agreed   to  [Special  Entry],  538. 

Consequential  Amendments  made  to  Bills  on  


consideration  of  Lords' Amendments,  520,  525.  


Amendment  made  to  the  Bill,  instead   of  


Lords'  Amendment  disagreed  to,  517,  518.  


- —  

T o  Commons'  Amendments  to  Lords'  Amend­
ments,  and  Lords'  Reason  for  disagreeing   to  Commons' 
consequential  Amendment,  to  be  considered,  and  to  be 
printed,  531. 

To  Commons'  Amendments to  Lords'  Amend­

ments, aud to  Commons' consequential  Amendments, and 
Lords'  consequential  Amendment  and  Lords'  Amend­
ments  in  lieu  of  Amendments  disagreed  to,  to  be  con­
sidered,  and  to be  printed,  532. 

Lords  agree  to  the  Amendments  made  by this 
House to further  Amendments  made   by  the  Lords  to  a 
Bill,  and  to  the  consequential  Amendments  made by  this 
House  to  the  Bill, without  Amendment,  and do  not  insist 
on  their  Amendments  to  which  this  House  hath  dis­
agreed,  545. 

Lords  agree  to  the  Amendments  made  by  this 
House  to  the  Amendments  made  by  the  Lords to  a  Bill, 
without  Amendment,  and do not insist  on  their  Amend­
ments to  which  this  House  hath  disagreed,  545. 

LORDS,  HOUSE  of 

(Refusal  to  pass  Finance  Bill);
Motion  relative  thereto,  and  Question  resolved  in  the 
Affirmative, 546.  Vide   H O U SE   of  LORDS. 

—	 

That  they  have  appointed  a  Committee   of  

Five  Lords   to  join  with  a  Committee  of  the  Commons,  

and  proposing  place and  time  of meeting,  313,  322.  


LOSS  of  L I FE   at  S E A.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

L U N A C Y.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

That  they give  leave   to  a Peer to  be  examined 

as a  Witness  on  Group  5 of  Railway  Bills,  307. 

MESSAGES  TO   : — 

—  Requesting  Copies  of  Minutes  of  Evidence, 

&c.  on  Torrens'  Divorce  Bill,  72. 

Requesting  the  attendance  of  Lord  Harris  as 
a Witness  before  the  Committee   on  Group  5 of  Railway 
Bills,  299.  Leave  given,  307. 

L U N A CY  (Ireland);  Bill  to  correct  a  verbal  error  in  

section six of  the Lunacy  (Ireland)  Act,  1901;  presented,  

and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  214.  Second 
Reading  deferred, 230,  243,  260,  280,  297,  316, 332, 350, 

366,  383,  397,  400,  403,  407,  409,  410,  414,  417,  420.  

Order  for  Second  Reading  discharged  ;  Bill  withdrawn,  

425. 

LUNATIC  ASYLUMS  (Escape  of  Patients from  Asylums  at 

Epsom).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

T o  acquaint  them  that  it  is  expedient  that 
a  Select  Committee  of  this  House  be  appointed  to  join 
with  a  Committee  of  the  Lords,  &c. 
[Stage  Plays 
(Censorship)  ]  [High  Court   of  Justice  (King's  Bench 
Division)],  273. 

L U NE  FISHERIES  PROVISIONAL  ORDER   ;  Bill  to  confirm 
an  Order  under  the  Salmon  and  Freshwater  Fisheries 
Act,  1907, relating   to  the  River  Lune  and  other  waters; 
presented;  Standing  Order  193a  suspended;  read  the 
first time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  209.  Report, 









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Order—continued. 

no  Standing  Orders  applicable,  221.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  224,  245,  262,  282,  299.  Bill  read  a  second 
time,  and  committed,  318.  Bill  reported,  with  Amend­
ments ;  Provisional Order confirmed, 347.  Bill considered, 
as amended,  352.  Read  the  third  time  and passed,  358. 
Agreed 
to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments;  day 
appointed  for  considering  them,  469.  Lords'  Amend­
(Cited  as  Lune  Fisheries Pro­
ments  agreed  to,  471. 
visional Order  Confirmation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
491. 

9  Edw. VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

M A C H I N E RY  and   ENGINEERING  STAFFS   at  POOR 
L AW  INSTITUTIONS   (Departmental  Committee).  Vide 
ACCOUNTS. 

MAGISTRATES  (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

M A IL  SERVICE  CONTRACTS.  
B E L F A ST  M A IL  SERVICE. 
SERVICE. 

Vide  ARDROSSAN  and 

S C I L LT  ISLANDS  M A IL 

MAINTENANCE  PROVISION   ;  Bill  to  make  better  pro­

vision  for  the  maintenance  of  Children  and  others,  and 
<  for  other  purposes  relating  thereto;  presented;  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time, 21.  Second  Reading  

deferred,  56,  64.  Order  for  Second  Reading   on  future  

day  discharged  ;  Bill  withdrawn,  70.  


M A L V E RN  H I L LS   [Lords']  ;  Report, That  the  Bill  should 
originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with,  12.  Bill 
brought  from  the  Lords,  90.  Read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the Examiners, 91.  Report,  Standing  Orders 
not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  114.  Bill 
read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  121.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  216.  Day  appointed  for  considera­
tion,  as  amended,  255.  Considered,  as  amended,  257. 
King's  Consent  signified;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  with  Amendments,  269.   T o  which  the  Lords 
(Cited  as  Malvern  Hills  Act,  1909)  Royal 
agree,  286. 
Assent,  381. 

MANCHESTER  CORPORATION   [Lords] ;  Report,  That  the 
Bill  should originate  in the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report, 
Standing Orders certified to have been  complied  with, 12. 
Report  on  Petition  for  additional  provision,  Standing 
Orders  not  complied  with, referred  to  the  Select  Com­
mittee  on  Standing  Orders,  121".  Report,  Standing 
Orders  to  be  dispensed  with ;  parties  to insert  additional 
provision,  156.  Brought  from  the  Lords,  196.  Read 
the  first  time,  and  referred   to  the  Examiners,  197. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
complied  with,  210.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  com­
mitted,  224.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  from  Local 
Legislation  Committee  (Section  A )  ,  252.  Considered, 
as  amended,  302.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
with  Amendments,  311.   To  which  the  Lords  agree, 
322. 
Assent,  381. 

(Cited as Manchester  Corporation  Act, 1909)  Royal 

M A R I NE  INSURANCE   (Gambling Policies)  ;  Bill  to  pro­
hibit  Gambling  on  loss  by  maritime  perils  ;  ordered  ; 
presented  accordingly,  and  read  the  first  time,  118. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  124,  138,  141,  144,  154,  171, 
175,  178,  183,  190, 212,  223, 230.  Read  a  second  time, 
and  committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  233.   B, 
238.  Fifteen  Members  added   to  the  Committee  in 
respect of  the  Bill,  238.  Transferred  to  Standing  Com­
mittee C, 247.  Members discharged from the  Committee, 
and  others  appointed  in  substitution  in  respect of  the 
Bill,  245,  249,  253.  Fifteen  Members  added   to  the 
Committee  in  respect  of  the  Bill,  245.  Reported,  with 
Amendments,  262.  Consideration, as amended, deferred, 

280,  284,  297,  316,  323,  325,  332,  350,  367,  382.  Bill 
considered,  as amended ;  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
394.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment, 
455. 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  491. 

(Cited  as  Marine  Insurance  (Gambling  Policies)

MARRIAGES,  BIRTHS,   and  DEATHS 

(England).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

MARRIAGES,  B I R T H S,   and  DEATHS 

(Ireland).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

MARRIAGES  PROVISIONAL  ORDER   ;  Bill  to  confirm  a 
Provisional  Order  made  by  one  of  His  Majesty's 
Principal  Secretaries  of  State  under  the  Provisional 
Order  (Marriages)  Act,  1905  ;  presented  ;  read  the  first 
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  195.  Report,   no 
Standing  Orders  applicable,  217.  Read  a second  time, 
and  committed.  220.  Reported,  with  Amendments  ; 
confirmed,  270.  Considered,   as 
Provisional  Order 
amended,  274.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  276. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  342. 
(Cited  as  Provisional Order  (Marriages)  Confirmation 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

• 

MARRIAGES  PROVISIONAL  ORDER   (No.  2 );  Bill   to 
confirm  a  Provisional  Order  made   by  one  of  His 
Majesty's  Principal  Secretaries   of  State  under  the 
Provisional  Order  (Marriages)  A c t,  1905;  presented; 
Standing  Order  193a  suspended  ;  Bill read  the first time, 
and  referred to the Examiners, 341.  Report,  no  Standing 
Orders  applicable  ;  day  appointed  for  Second  Reading, 
352.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  358. 
Bill  reported,  without  Amendment,  373.  Provisional 
Order  confirmed ;  read  the  third time  and  passed,  378. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  465. 
(Cited  as  Provisional  Order  (Marriages)  Confirmation 
(No.  2)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  491. 

MARSHALL'S  C H A R I TT  B I L L.   Vide  JOHN  MARSHALL'S 

CHARITY. 

MECHANICAL  TRANSPORT  

in 

the  COLONIES. 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

MEDICAL  A C T,   1886.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

M E D I C AL  A C TS  AMENDMENT   ;  Bill  to  regulate 

the 
administration  of  Anaesthetics,  to  make  regulations 
relative  thereto,  and  to  amend  the  Medical  A c t s; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  80. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  116,  121,  135,  149,  167,  185. 
Order  for  Second  Reading  discharged;  Bill  withdrawn, 
213. 

M E D I C AL  COUNCIL.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

M E D W AY  CONSERVANCY.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

M E M B E R S: 

returned  for  two  or  more  places, to  make 
their  election  for  which  place  they  will  serve  within  a 
certain  time,  3. 

to  withdraw  during  any  Debate  upon 

their  Election  and  Return,  4. 

draw  till  their  Returns  are  determined,  4. 

returned  upon  double  Returns,  to  with­

proceeded  against with  the  utmost  severity,   4. 

elected  or  returned  by  bribery  will  be 

Bills  and  Motions,  11. 

Order  relative  to  Members  balloting  for 

(Public),  32,  77,  109,  &c. 

ordered  to  prepare  and  bring  in  Bills 
(Private),  30,  &c. 

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present  Bills,  11,  &c. 

troller  of  the  Household),  31,  179. 

report  Answers  to  Addresses  (the  Comp­

Motions,  61,  82,  96.  
Museum),  16. 

signify  King's 

to 
To  Petition  for  Aid  (British 

Recommendation 

184,  &c.  Prince  of  Wales'  Consent,  184. 

signify  King's  Consent  to  Bills,  67,  147, 

nominated  Members  of  Select  Committees, 
13,  25,  207,  &c.  Of  Standing  Committees  A ,  B,  C,  37. 
Scottish Standing  Committee,  28.  Of  Commission  under 
the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899, 
28. 

Member  discharged,  another  added,  35. 

to  be  Chairmen's  Panel,  28. 

to  serve  on  Panel  on  unopposed  Bill 

Committees,  32. 

nominated  temporary  Chairmen  by  Mr. 

Speaker,  30. 

appointed  Chairmen  of  Standing  Com­

mittees :—A,  37.   B,  73.  C,  94.  Scottish  Committee, 
37. 

appointed  to  serve  on  Scottish  Standing 

Committee,  327. 

any  Member  of  Chairmen's  Panel  em­

powered  to  ask  any  other  Member  of  the  Panel  to  take 
his place, if necessary,  37. 

added  to  Standing  Committees  in  respect 

of  Bills,  61,  63,  73,  &c. 

— 
130. 

—  Member  added  to  a  Select  Committee, 

Member  discharged  from  the  Committee 

on  Privileges,  another  added,  337. 

discharged  from  Standing  Committees, 

others  added  in  substitution,  63,  68,  83,  &c. 

Member  discharged,  another  reinstated, 

— 

156. 

- — 
Imprisonment  of  a  Member  (Mr.  James 
Farrell);  Mr.  Speaker  acquaints  the  House  that   he 
has  received  a  letter  relating  to  the  imprisonment  of  a 
Member,  and  letter  read,  3. 

to  the  Bankruptcy  of  a  Member,  307. 

Letter  received  by  Mr.  Speaker  relating 

Member  adjudicated  Bankrupt  ; 

seat 

vacated,  347. 

Member  moves,  That  the  Debate   be  now 

adjourned;  Mr.  Speaker  declines   to  propose  the  Ques­
tion  (abuse  of  Rules),  339. 

Member  moves,  That  the  Chairman   do 
report  Progress,  but  the  Chairman  declines  to  propose 
the  Question  (abuse  of  Rules),  33,  162,  207,  279,  305, 
314,  331, 407,  459  (twice). 

(tedious  repetition),  267. 

Member  directed to discontinue  his  speech 
(Irrelevance),  487. 

conduct),  304. 

[Entry  expunged,  311.] 

Member  directed  to  withdraw  (disorderly 

ask  leave to  move  the Adjournment of  the 
House  (arrest  of  a  Member),  37. 
(Prisoners  awaiting 
Trial  in  Spain);  Motion  supported  by  less  than  Forty 
Members,  489. 

Forty  Members not  present  in  the  House, 

165,  237,  493. 

claim  to  move,  That  the  Question  be  now 
put, under  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate),  22,  29, 
&c. 

claim  the  Main  Question,  29.  Original 

Question,  59. 

claim  the  Question  on  the  Amendment  to 

the Main  Question,  22. 

to  move  the  Question,  That  the 
Clause  stand  part of  the  Bill,  put,  pursuant  to  Standing 
Order  (Closure   of  Debate),  104. 

claim 

claim  to  move,  That  the  words  of  a 
Clause,  to  the  end  of  a  line,  &c.,  stand  part  of  the 
Clause, be now put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure 
of  Debate),  267,  278-9,  314. 

appointed  Tellers  for  the  A y e s;   no  Mem­

Member  discharged 

from  Chairmen's 

ber  willing  to act  as Teller  for  the  Noes,  246. 

Panel,  another  appointed,  173. 

Member  discharged  as  Chairman of  Stand­

ing  Committee   A ,  another  appointed,  173. 

Member  not  present  during  the  Sitting  of 

a  Committee  on  a Group of  Private  Bills,  148. 

report  Private  Bills 

from  Committees, 

94. 

Member  reports  attendance  of  Witness 

necessary,  148. 

! 

report, from  Select  Committees,  49. 

report  from  Standing  Committees,  Chair-

men's Panel,  73. 

Member  moves  that  the  Chair  be  em­
powered  to  select  Amendments,  365,  369,  372, 376,  379, 
385,386. 

, 

„

report  Resolutions  to  the  House,  41,  81. 

to  the 
.191 
Lords  lor  disagreeing   to  their  Amendments,  476,  521 

-  report  Reasons  to  be  assigned 
flioir  Amjinrlmdnk  4.7ft 

. n ^ n r. 

-T' 

Complaint  made  by  Member  as  to  the 
intervention  of  a Peer at a Parliamentary  Election,  319. 
Vide  P R I V I L E G E. 

New  Members  sworn  :— 

Francis  Alexander  Newdigate-Newdegate,  Esquire, for 
the  County  of  Warwick  (Northern  or  Tamworth 
Division),  3. 

William  Robert  Wellesley  Peel,  Esquire  (commonly 
called  the  Honourable  William  Robert  Wellesley 
Peel),  for  the  Borough   of  Taunton,  28. 

James  Falconer,  Esquire,  for  the  County   of  Forfar, 

37. 

Right	  Honourable  Charles  Scott  Dickson,  for   •  the 

Burgh  of  Glasgow  (Central  Division),  44. 

Arthur  Dewar,  Esquire 

(His  Majesty's  Solicitor 
General  for  Scotland),  for  the  Burgh   of  Edinburgh 
(South  Division),  44. 

Sir John  Nicholson  Barran,  Baronet,  for  the  Hawick 

District  of Burghs,  45. 

Sir  Robert  Trotter  Hermon-Hodge,  for  the  Borough 

of  Croydon,  87. 

James  Puckering  Gibson,  Esquire,  for  the  Burgh   of 

Edinburgh  (East  Division),  114. 

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Edward  George  Hemmerde,  Esquire,  K.C.,  for  the 

County  of  Denbigh  (Eastern  Division),  114. 

Joseph  Pointer,  Esquire, for  the  Borough   of  Sheffield 

(Attercliffe  Division),  145. 

Philip  Stanley  Foster,  Esquire,  for  the  County   of 
(South  Western   or  Stratford-on-Avon 

Warwick 
Division),  151. 

Maurice  Healy,  Esquire,  for  the  Borough   of  Cork, 

160. 

James  Avon	  Clyde,  Esquire,  K.C., for  the  Burgh   of 

Edinburgh  (West  Division),  176. 

Thomas  Lundon,  Esquire, for the  County   of  Limerick 

(East  Limerick),  225. 

Right  Honourable  Herbert  Louis  Samuel,  for  the 
County of  York (North Riding) (Cleveland  Division), 
299. 

John  George  Hancock,  Esquire,  for  the  County   of 

Derby  (Mid  Division),  322. 

John  William  Gulland,  Esquire,  for  Dumfries  District 

of  Burghs,  324. 

Oswald  Partington,  Esquire,  for  the  County   of  Derby 

(High  Peak  Division),  331. 

the  Department  of  Agriculture  and  Technical  Instruc­
tion  for  Ireland  to  undertake  prosecutions  in  certain 
cases  under  the  Merchandise  Marks  Act,  1887 ;  King's 
Recommendation  signified,  401.  Matter  considered  in 
Committee,  406.  Resolution  reported,  and  agreed  to, 
408. 

MERCHANTS  HOUSE   of  GLASGOW  (Buchanan  and  Ewing 

Bequests)  ORDER  CONFIRMATION;   Bill  to  confirm  a 
Provisional  Order  under  the  Private  Legislation  Pro­
cedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899,  relating   to  the  Merchants 
House  of  Glasgow  (Buchanan  and  Ewing  Bequests); 
presented,  and  ordered  (under  Section  7  of  the  Act) 
to  be  considered,  224.  Considered,  234.  Read  the 
third  time  and  passed, 241.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords, 
without  Amendment,  270. 
of  Glasgow  (Buchanan  and  Ewing  Bequests)  Order 
Confirmation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  380. 

(Cited as  Merchants  House 

MERCHANT  SEAMEN'S  FUND.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

MERCHANT  SHIPPING  A C T S,   1894  and  1906.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

MERCHANT  SHIPPING   (Desertion  of  Seamen).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

MERCHANT  SHIPPING   (Life-saving  Appliances).  Vide 

Thomas  Scanlan,  Esquire,  for  the  County   of  Sligo 

ACCOUNTS. 

(North  Sligo),  398. 

Matthew Keating, Esquire,for  the County  of  Kilkenny 

(South  Kilkenny),  398. 

Arthur  Alfred  Lynch,  Esquire,  for  the  County   of 

Clare  (West  Clare),  425. 

John  Molesworth  Thomas  Dumphreys,  Esquire,  for 
the  Borough  of  Southwark  (Bermondsey  Division), 
514. 

Charles  O'Neill,  Esquire,  for  Armagh  County  (South 

Armagh),  532. 

MERCANTILE  CORPORATIONS  a nd  COMPANIES 

(Municipal 

Franchise)  ;  Bill  to  confer  the  Municipal Franchise  upon 
Mercantile  Corporations  and  Companies  ;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  91.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  128,  131,  142,  143,  158,  178,  217. 

MERCHANT  SHIPPING   (Lighthouses)\  Bill  to  amend  the 
Law  with  regard  to  Lighthouses,  and  to  abolish  Light 
Dues;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a second  time, 
20.  Second  Reading  deferred,  192,  244,  256,  282. 

MERCHANT  SHIPPING  (Mercantile  Marine  Fund)  ACT, 

1898,  &c.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

MERCHANT  VESSELS   (Immunity during  War) ;  Motion, 
That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House,  it  should  be  a 
principle  of  naval  warfare  that  enemy  merchant  vessels, 
other  than  carriers  of  contraband,  should  be  immune 
from  capture  ;  Debate  arising;  Closure  claimed  twice, 
but  assent  withheld,  and  at  Eleven  of  the  clock  Debate 
stood  adjourned;  no  day  fixed  for  resumption,  116. 

MERSEY  DOCKS   and  HARBOUR  BOARD.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

MERCANTILE  M A R I NE   (Foreign-going  Agreements).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

MESSAGES: 

MERCHANDISE  M A R KS   ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Merchandise  

Marks  Act,  1887;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a  

second  time,  526.  


MERCHANDISE  M A R KS   (Ireland);  Bill  to  enable  the 
Department  of  Agriculture  and  Technical  Instruction  

for  Ireland  to  undertake  prosecutions  in  certain  cases  

under  the Merchandise  Marks  Aet,  1887 ;  presented, and 

ordered  to be  read  a second  time,  192.  Second  Reading  

deferred,  230,  234,  243,  260,  280,  297,  316,  332,  350,  

367,  383,  397.  Read  a  second  time;  Bill  committed   to  

a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  400.  Committee 
deferred,  406.  Considered  in  Committee,  and  reported,  

408.  As  amended,  considered;  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  410.  Agreed   to by  the  Lords,  without  Amend­
ment, 494. 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  539. 

(Cited  as Merchandise  Marks (Ireland) Act, 

MERCHANDISE  M A R KS   (Ireland) [Expenses];  Motion  for  

the  House  to  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  

of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of  moneys  provided  by  

Parliament,  of  the  expenses of  prosecutions  undertaken  

in  pursuance  of  any  Act   of  the  present  Session to  enable  


U sher, to  attend  Him  in  the  House  of  Peers,  3. 

from  His  Majesty;   by  the  Gentleman 

from  the  Lords  Commissioners;  Royal 
Assent  to  Bills,  by  the  Gentleman  Usher,  58,  88,  135, 
380, 446,  491,  539,  547. 

Interruption  of  Proceedings  on  Bills  by 
Message  from  the  Lords  Commissioners  ;  Finance  Bill 
(on  Report), 491.  Development and  Road  Improvement 
Funds  Bill  (consideration   of  Lords" Amendments),  539. 

— 
to  and  from. 

to  the  Lords.  Vide   LORDS,  MESSAGES 

METEOROLOGICAL  COMMITTEE.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

M E T H W O LD  and  F E LT WELL  DRAINAGE   [Lords']  ;  Report, 
That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the  House   of  Lords, 
10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified   to  have  been 
complied  with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords;  read  the 
first time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  177.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  186.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  206. 

VOL.  164. 

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M E T H W O LD  and  F E L T W E LL  DRAINAGE   [Lords]—cont. 

Second  Reading  deferred,  213,  217,  224,  234,  282,  288. 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed  ;  Instruction   to 
the  Committee,  after  Amendment  made,  300.  Bill 
reported,  with  Amendments,  327.  Day  appointed  for 
consideration, as amended, 346.  Considered, as amended; 
Standing Orders 223  and 243  suspended;  King's  Consent 
signified;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with 
Amendments,  352.   To  which  the  Lords  agree,  361. 
(Cited  as  Methwold and Feltwell Drainage Act,  1908) 
Royal  Assent,  381. 

MIDLAND  R A I L W AY  

[Lords];  Report,  That  the  Bill 
should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with, 
12.  Bill  brought  from  the  Lords,  90.  Read  the  first 
time,  and  referred  to 
the  Examiners,  91.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  97.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  108. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  111,  117,121,129.  Motion, 
That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a  second  time;  Amendment 
proposed,  "  six  months,"  and  withdrawn  ;  Bill  read  a 
second  time,  and  committed,  146. 
Reported,  with 
Amendments,  180.  Considered,  as  amended,  194.  Day 
appointed  for  Third  Reading,  205.  King's  Consent  (as 
Duke  of  Lancaster)  signified;  Bill  read  the  third  time 
and  passed,  with  Amendments,  208.  To  which  the 
Lords  agree,  258. 
Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited as  Midland Railway  Act,  1909) 

M I L I T A RY  MANOEUVRES  A C T,  1897  (Order 

M I D W I V ES  A C T,   1902.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

METROPOLITAN  AMBULANCES   ;  Bill to enable the London 
County  Council  to  establish  and maintain  an  Ambulance 
Service  in  London;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read 
a  second  time,  127.  Second Reading deferred,  154,  197, 
212,  231,  247,  254,  282.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  292.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed 
to  a  Standing  Committee,  308.   A ,  318.  Fifteen 
Members  added  to  the  Committee,  318.  Member  dis­
charged,  another  appointed,  in  respect  of  the  Bill,  345, 
; 
347,  374,  380.  Member  added   in  respect  of  the  Bill, 
Motion,  That  an  humble  Address  be  presented  to  His 
374.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  384.  Bill  con­
Majesty,  praying  His  Majesty   to  make  an  Order  in 
sidered,  as  amended  ;  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
Council  under  the  Military  Manoeuvres  Act,  1897,  a 
394.  Agreed  to by the  Lords,  without Amendment,  465. 
draft  of  which  was  presented  to  this  House  on  the 
(Cited  as  Metropolitan  Ambulances  Act,  1909)  Royal  16th  day  of  February  last  ;  Debate  arising;  notice 
Assent,  491. 
taken  that  Forty  Members  were  not  present,  and  House 
counted  out,  165;  Day  appointed  for  resumption   of 
Debate,  166.  Adjourned  Debate  resumed;  Question 
put,  and  agreed  to  ;  Resolution,  See.;  to  be  presented 
by  Privy  Councillors  or  Members  of  His  Majesty's 
Household,  170.  King's  Answer,  179.  Vide   ACCOUNTS. 

METROPOLITAN  COMMONS  PROVISIONAL  O R D E R;  B i ll 
to  confirm  a  Scheme  under  the  Metropolitan  Commons 
Acts,  1866  to  1898,  with  respect  to  Keston  Common 
and  Leaves  Green,  in  the  County  of  K e n t;  presented  ;  

read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  195.  

Report,  no  Standing  Orders  applicable,  210.  Bill  read  

a  second  time,  and  committed,  213.  Reported,  with  M I L I T A RY  W O R KS  A C T S,  1 8 9 7,  1 8 9 9,  1 9 0 1,  a nd  1 9 0 3. 
Amendments;  Provisional  Order  confirmed,  252.  Con-
sidered, as amended, 255.  Read  the third time and passed, 

257.  Agreed to by  the  Lords,  with  an Amendment,  337.  M I L I T IA  A C T,   1882  (Deputy Lieutenants,  Ireland).  Vide 
Day  appointed  for  consideration,  337.  Lords'  Amend-
ment  agreed  to,  341. 
Scheme  Confirmation  Act,  1909) Royal  Assent,  381. 

METROPOLITAN  C A T T LE  M A R K E T.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Cited  as  Metropolitan  Commons  


M I L I T A RY  PRISONS.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


ACCOUNTS. 


in  Council) 

METROPOLITAN  POLICE   (Sessional  Order),  4 .  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

METROPOLITAN  SEWERS   and  D R A I N S;   Bill  to  amend 
the  Metropolis  Management  Acts  with  respect   to  Sewers 
and  Drains  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to be  read  a  second 
time,  87.  Second  Reading  deferred,  138,  158,  167,  175, 
213,  247. 

METROPOLITAN  W A T ER  BOARD.   Vide  ACCOUNTS, 

M I D D L E S EX  COUNTY.  

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING 

DISTRICTS. 

M I D L A ND  G R E AT  WESTERN  R A I L W AY   o f  IRELAND  ; 
Report  on  Petition  for  Bill,  That  Standing  Orders  have 
not  been  complied  with,  referred   to  the  Select  Com­
mittee  on  Standing  Orders,  13.  Report,  That  Standing 
Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed  with,  45.  Bill  read  the 
first time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  52.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  referred  to  the  Select  Committee  on  Standing 
Orders,  56.  Report,  Standing  Orders  ought   to  be 
dispensed  with;  parties  to  proceed  with  their  Bill,  80. 
Report  read;  Bill   to  be  read  a  second  time, 80.  Read 
a  second  time,  and  committed,  86.  Reported,  with 
Amendments 
(Title  amended),  145.  Considered,  as 
amended,  165.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  172. 
Agreed to  by the  Lords,  with Amendments, 337.  Lords' 
Amendments  agreed  to,  346. 
Western Railway  of  Ireland Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
381. 

( Cited  as Midland  Great 

M I LK   and  D A I R I ES  ;  Bill  to  make  better  provision  with 
respect  to  the  sale  of  Milk  and  the  regulation  of 
Dairies  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  192,  Second  Reading  deferred,  212,  223,  230, 
234,  244,  246,  260,  279,  284,  288,  291,  293,  298,  308, 
316,  323,  325,  332,  335,  340,  344,  351,  367,  377,  383. 
Bill  withdrawn,  398. 

M I LK  CONTROL   (Scotland);  Bill  to  provide 

for  the 
better  regulation  for  the  Sale  of  Milk  in  Scotland; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  187. 

MINERAL  RIGHTS  D U T Y.   Vide  W A YS   and  MEANS. 

MINERALS,  INCREMENT  V A L UE  D U TY   on.  Vide  W A YS 

a nd  M E A N S. 

M I N ES  and  QUARRIES.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

MINES  and  QUARRIES  (Accident  at  the Dalbeath  Colliery, 

Fifeshire).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

MINES  (Royal  Commission). Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

M I N I NG  R O Y A L T I ES   (Scotland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

M I N T.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

MINUTES  of  EVIDENCE  ;  taken  before  a  Select  Com­
mittee  in  a  former  Session  referred  to  Select  Com­
mittees  of  the  present  Session,  53,  126,  334.   To  be 
printed,  140.  Communicated  from  the  Lords  (Divorce 
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M O N ET  L E N D E RS   ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Money  Lenders 
Act,  1900;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  184.  Second  Reading  deferred,  217,  232,  240. 
Day  appointed  for  Second Beading,  245. 

M O R AL 

i n 

E L E M E N T A RY 

INSTRUCTION  

SCHOOLS  ; 
Motion,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House,  provision 
should  be made in  the  Code  for  moral  instruction  to  be 
efficiently  given  in  every  elementary  school,  and  that 
the regulations  for  the  training   of  teachers  should  be 
so  amended  as  to  secure  that  they  are  adequately 
trained  to  give  such 
posed,  to  leave  out  words  and  add  others, and  Debate 
adjourned ;  no day  fixed  for resumption,  61. 

instruction  ;  Amendment  pro­

MOTIONS: 

QUESTIONS  AGREED   TO   : — 
Influence  of  Peers  at  Elections,  4  (on 

Division)  (Sessional  Resolution). 

•	 
ment not made,  115. 

for  leave  to  bring in  a  Bill,  after  Amend­

of  the whole  House,  166  (oh  Division). 

That  a Bill  be  committed  to  a  Committee 

—	 
of  the  whole  House, 440  (on  Division). 

That a Bill  be recommitted  to a Committee 

(on  Division). 

That  a  Bill  be  read  the  third  time,  105 

— ; 
Division),  159 (on  Division). 

New  Writ,  Edinburgh  Burgh 

(West 

W I T H D R A WN   : — 
That  a  reduced  sum be granted  (in  Com­
mittee  of  Supply),  33,  59.  For  reduction   of  item  in 
Supply,  236. 

That it be an Instruction  to the  Committee 
on  the  Derwent  Valley  Water  Board  Bill, 47.  London 
County  Council  (General  Powers)  Bill,  80. 

Ballot 

for  Bills  and  Motions,  after 

That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned,  on 

Amendment  withdrawn,  11. 

Second  Reading  of  a Bill,  74. 

—  Fair  Wages  Clause, amended, and agreed 

Tariffs  Retaliation,  amended,  and  agreed 

to,  51, 

to, 88. 

Privilege  (Intervention  of  Peers  at  Par­

liamentary  Elections),  after  Amendment  proposed,  and 
not  made, 319. 

Payment of  Members,  161  (on  Division). 

House of  Lords  (Refusal  to  pass  Finance 

Bill),  546  (on  Division). 

That  a  Clause  stand part,  103. 

That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned,  9,

That  this House  do  now  adjourn,  9,  221, 

17, 24,  82, 

&c. 

mittee  in  a  Resolution,  41  (on  Division),  193. 

That  this House  doth  agree  with  a  Com­

That  the  Chairman  do  report  Progress 
immediately,  the  House  having  resolved 
into 
Committee  of  Supply,  41  (Army  Estimates),  63  (Navy 
Estimates). 

itself 

(in  Committee  on  matter),  91. 
137,  153,  157,  162. 

(Bill),  306  (on  Division). 

That  the  Chairman  do  report  Progress 
(Wajrs  and  Means), 

104,  242,  259,  284, &c. 

That  the  Chairman  do  report  Progress, 

Motion  and  Clause withdrawn,  105. 

That  a  Clause  be  read  a  second  time; 

solidated  Fund],  467. 

in  Committee  on  matter,  Finance  [Con­

:—  Accidents  in  Mines,  130. 

Poor  Laws  Commission  (Unemployment), 

178. 

165. 

for  an  Address,  and  House  counted  out, 

F I X ED  FOR  RESUMPTION   : — 

D E B A T ES  ADJOURNED  AND   NO  D A YS 

Moral  Instruction  in  Elementary  Schools, 

61, 

64. 

Land  Values  Taxation,  74. 

Income  Tax,  78. 

Capital  (Foreign  Investment),  amended, 

War),  116. 

Merchant  Vessels 

(Immunity  during 

(London),  143. 

Local  Administration  and  Taxation 

Private  Bill, amended,  103,  104. 

For  an  Instruction  to  a  Committee  on a 

That  the  Question  of  agreement  or  dis­

(Ireland),  35. 

agreement  to  Lords' Amendments  be  put  with  respect 
to the Amendments  as a whole,  529. 

Lords  in  their  Amendments to  the  Bill,  529. 

That  this  House  doth  disagree  with  the 

Rules,  217. 

AND  QUESTIONS  N E G A T I V E D :— 
Agrarian  and  Political  Prosecutions 

Naval  Policy,  85. 

Intermediate  Education  Board  (Ireland) 

Irish  Universities  Act,  1908  (Statutes), 

Business  of  the  House  (Reports  from 
Money  Committees);  exemption  from  Standing  Order 
No.  1,  32. 
(Ways  and  Means),  137, 
141. 

(Supply),  70. 

Business  of  the  House  (Supply);  Pro­

ceedings,  &c.  to  be  resumed  after  the  interruption  of 
Business, 38, 46, 50,  73, 271. 

Report  of  Navy  and  Army  Expenditure 

(1907-8),  353. 

2 4 5. 
—	 
tion of  Education  (Scotland)  Fund),  273. 

Education  (Scotland)  Act, 1908 (Applica­

That  a reduced  sum  be granted,  207. 

Motion  for  adjournment of  the Debate  on  


Question,  That  this  House  doth  agree with  the  Com­
mittee  in  a Resolution,  48.  


for  adjournment  of  the  House  under 

Business of the  House  (Ways  and  Means, 

Standing  Order  No.  10, 38. 

1907-8),  160. 

Business  of 

the  House 

(Government 

Business),  395 (on  Division). 

VOL. 164. 

Sess.  1909. 

—— 

for  leave  to  bring  in a  Bill,  73. 

That a  Clause be  read  a second  time,  255. 

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MOTIONS—continued. 

That  a  Clause  be  postponed,  242,  419. 

— 

That  a  Bill  be  committed  to a  Committee 

of  the  whole  House,  31,  43,  96,  112,  210  (on  Division). 

That  a  Bill   be  recommitted  to  a  Com­

mittee of  the  whole  House,  255,  487,  489. 

That  a  Bill  be  recommitted  to  a  Select 

Committee,  47. 

for  an  Instruction  to  divide  a  Bill 

into 
two  parts, 103.  Into  two  Bills, and  Mr.  Speaker puts the 
Question,  pursuant  to  Order  of  the  House,  292  (Irish 
Land  Bill  j. 

—	 

That  the  Chairman  do  report  Progress 
(Ways  an a  Means)  ;  Question put, pursuant   to  Standing 
Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  152,  207  (Supply). 

— 

in  Committee  on  a  Bill,  249,  267,  313 

(Question  put,  pursuant  to  Closure),  &c. 

That  this  House  doth  agree  with  the 
Committee  in  a  Resolution,  and  Debate  adjourned,  190. 

Motion  for  adjournment   of  Debate  lapses 

at  Eleven  of  the  clock,  130. 

That  a Bill   be  recommitted to a Committee 
of  the  whole  House,  487  [Mr.  Speaker  directs  Member 
to  discontinue  his  speech  (irrelevance)]. 

MOTOR  C AR  A C T S.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

M O T OR  CARS.   Vide  W A YS   and  M E A N S. 

MOTOR  CARS   (International  Circulation);  Bill  to  enable 
Orders  in  Council  to  be  made  for  the  purpose  of  giving 
effect to any Convention  for facilitating  the  International 
Circulation  of  Motor  Cars >  presented,  and  ordered  to 
be  read  a second  time, 524.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
527.  Read  a  second  time;  Bill  committed   to  a  Com­
in 
mittee  of 
Committee,  and  reported,  without  Amendment  ;  read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  529.  Agreed   to  by  the 
Lords,  without  Amendment,  531. 
(Cited  as  Motor Car 
(International  Circulation)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
539. 

the  whole  House,  528. 

Considered 

MUNICIPAL  ELECTIONS   [LordsJ;  Bill,  intituled   An  A ct 
to  amend  the  Municipal  Elections  (Corrupt  and  Illegal 
Practices)  Act,  1884 ;  brought  from  the  Lords, 472.  Bill 
read  the  first  time,  509. 

MUNICIPAL  REPRESENTATION   ;  Bill  to  authorise  the 
introduction  of  proportional  representation  in  Municipal 
Elections,  and  for  other  purposes  ;  presented,  and 
ordered  to be  read  a second  time,  88.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  139,  154. 

MUNICIPAL 

T R A D I NG  

(United  Kingdom). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

M U R P H Y,  Mr.  W .  P .,  A R R E ST   of.  Vide  ADJOURNMENTS 
(Motions  under  Standing Order  No.  10).  HOUSE. 
MEMBERS. 

MUSSELBURGH  CORPORATION  (Extension  of  Boundaries, 
FYC.) ORDER  CONFIRMATION   ;  Bill  to  confirm  a  Pro­
visional  Order  under  the  Private  Legislation  Procedure 
(Scotland)  Act,  1899, relating   to  Musselburgh  Corpora­
tion  ;  presented  ;  read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  (under 
Section  9  of  the  Act)   to  be  read  a  second  time,  209. 
Bill  read  a second  time,  and  day  appointed  for  consider­
ation,  221.  Considered,  232.  Read  the  third  time 
and  passed,  238.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without 
(Cited  as  Musselburgh  Corporation 
Amendment,  270. 
(Extension  of  Boundaries,  8fc.)  Order  Confirmation  Act, 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  380. 

MUSSELBURGH  GAS  ORDER  CONFIRMATION   ;  Bill  to 
confirm  a  Provisional  Order  under  the  Private  Legis­
to 
lation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899,  relating  
Musselburgh  Gas;  presented;  read  the  first  time,  and 
ordered  (under  Section  9  of  the  A c t)   to  be  read  a 
second  time,  172.  Read  a  second  time,  and  day 
appointed 
Considered,  204. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  206.  Agreed   to  by  the 
Lords,  without  Amendment,  270.  (Cited as  Musselburgh
Gas  Order Confirmation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  380. 

for  consideration,  194. 

9	  Edw. Vil.  Pari. 28.

  Sess. 4.  1909. 

N A T A L  .  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

N A T I O N AL  D E BT  A N N U I T I E S,

  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

MOTOR  SPIRIT.   Vide  W A YS   and  MEANS. 

NATIONAL  D E B T.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

MOUNTAIN  A SH  U R B AN  DISTRICT  COUNCIL   ;  Bill  read 
the first time, and  ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  15. 
Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  25.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  83.  Considered,  as  amended,  96. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  107.  Agreed   to by  the 
Lords,  with  Amendments,  359.  Lords'  Amendments 
(pursuant  to  Order)  agreed  to,  360. 
Ash  Urban District  Council Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
382. 

(  Cited as  Mountain 

MUNICIPAL  CORPORATIONS  (Qualification  of  Clergymen) 
[Lords] ;  Bill, intituled   An  Act  to  remove  the  disqualifi­
cation  of  Clerks  in  Holy  Orders  and  other  ministers 
of  religion  as  municipal  councillors  ;  brought  from  the 
Lords,  169.  Read  the first time,  197.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  213,  247,  261,  272,  282.  Day  appointed  for 
Second  Reading,  300.  Second  Reading  deferred,  309, 
317,  333,  335,  340. 

MUNICIPAL  ELECTIONS  ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Municipal 
Elections  (Corrupt  and  Illegal  Practices)  Act,  1884  ; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  46. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  59,  78, 83, 86,  105,  113,  120. 
Day  appointed 
Second 
Reading  deferred,  158,  167,  175,  185,  194. 

for  Second  Reading,  148. 

N A T I O N AL  D E BT  

(Military  Savings  Banks).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

NATIONAL  DEBT  (Savings  Banks  and  Friendly  Societies). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

NATIONAL  EDUCATION   (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

N A T I O N AL  GALLERIES   of  SCOTLAND.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

NATIONAL  GALLERIES   of  SCOTLAND  A.CT,  1906.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS, 

N A T I O N AL  G A L L E RY   (Report).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

N A T I O N AL  G A L L E RY   (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

NATIONAL  INCOME   and  OUTGO.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

NATIONAL  M I L I T A RY  T R A I N I N G;   Bill  to  amend  the 
Territorial  and  Reserve  Forces  Act,  1907,  and   to 
establish  National  Military  Training  in  the  Territorial 
Force ;  presented,  and  ordered   to be  read  a second  time, 
63.  Second  Reading  deferred,  83,  95,  97. 

NATIONAL	  MUSEUMS  (Expenditure  on  Sites, §v\).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

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NATIONAL  PHYSICAL  LABORATORY.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

N A V Y.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

NATIONAL  PORTRAIT  G A L L E R Y.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

NATIONAL  SCHOOL  TEACHERS'  (Ireland)  PENSION  FUND. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

NATIONALISATION  of  R A I L W A YS   and  CANALS  ;  Bill  to 
provide  for  the  Nationalisation   of  Railways  and  Canals; 
resented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  58. 
)rder  for  Second  Reading   on  future  day  discharged; 

P

Bill  withdrawn,  87. 

NATIONALITY 

a nd  NATURALISATION 

(.Miscellaneous, 

No.  7, 1909).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Appropriation Account), s  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Battle Practice).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Courts-Martial).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  N A V Y. 

(Discipline).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

: 

(Dockyard  Expense  Accounts,  1 9 0 7 - 8 ).  

Vide 

ACCOUNTS.  N A V Y. 

(Estimates, 1 9 0 9 - 1 0 .)   Vide  ACCOUNTS.  N A V Y. 

(Estimates, 1908-9)  (Programme of  Shipbuilding, 
Repairs,  Maintenance, 8fc.).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  N A V Y. 

(Exceptions  to  King's  Regulations). 

Vide 

NATIONALITY  and  NATURALISATION.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

ACCOUNTS. 

N A V AL  D E F E N CE   {Two-Power Standard);  Motion,  That 
this House  would  view  with  alarm  any  modification   of 
the  Two-Power  Standard  as  defined  by  the  Prime 
Minister  on  the  12 th  and  23rd  November  1908,  &c.; 
Amendment  proposed, to  leave out  words  and  add  others, 
and, on  Division, made  ;  words  added  ;  Main  Question, 
so  amended, put,  and  agreed to  on  Division,  200. 

N A V AL  DISCIPLINE   ;  Bill  to  enable  the  punishment  of 
detention  to  be  substituted  for  the  punishment  of  im­
prisonment  for  offences  against  Naval  Discipline  under 
the  Naval  Discipline  A c t  ;  presented, and  ordered  to be 
read  a second  time, 479.  Second  Reading  deferred,  485, 
493.  Motion, That  the  Bill   be  now read  a  second  time; 
Amendment  proposed,  "  three  months,"  and  withdrawn  ; 
Bill  read  a  second  time;  committed   to  a  Committee  of 
the  whole  House,  497.  Committee  deferred, 501.  Con­
sidered in Committee, and reported, without  Amendment; 
read  the  third  time  and  passed,  504,  Agreed   to  by  the 
Lords,  with  Amendments  ;  day appointed  for  considering 
them;  to  be  printed,  531.  Lords'  Amendments  agreed 
to,  538. 
(Cited  as Naval  Discipline Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  539. 

N A V AL  ESTABLISHMENTS   ;  Bill  to  make  better  provision 
respecting  Naval  Establishments  in  British  Possessions; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  384. 
Read  a  second 
Second  Reading  deferred,  400,  403. 
time;  Bill  committed   to  a  Committee  of  the  whole 
House,  406.  Committee  deferred,  409.  Considered   in 
Committee,  and  reported,  without  Amendment:  read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  413.  Agreed   to  by  the 
(Cited  as  Naval 
Lords,  without  Amendment,  468. 
Establishments  in  British  Possessions  Act,  1900)  Royal 
Assent,  491. 

(Gunnery).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Health).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

(Hydrographer's  Report). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

N A V Y. 

• 

(Statement  explanatory  of  Estimates). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

(  Victualling  Yard Manufacturing Accounts,  1907-8). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

N A V Y. 

• 

( Votes).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

N A VY   and  A R MY  E X P E N D I T U R E,  1 9 0 7 - 8;   Resolution 
of  House  to  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider 
the  surpluses  and  deficits upon  Navy  and  Army  Grants 
for  1 9 0 7 - 8,   and  the  application  of  surpluses  to  meet 
expenditure  not  provided  for in  the  Grants  for  that year; 
Order, That  the  Appropriation  Accounts  for  the  Navy 
and  Army  Departments,  which  were  presented   on  the 
16th day  of  February  last, be referred  to the  Committee, 
333.  Committee  deferred,  335,  340.  Proceedings  in 
Committee  to  have  precedence  of  the  Committee  of 
Supply,  342.  Considered  in  Committee,  342.  Report 
deferred,  345,  351.  Proceedings  on  Report  not   to  be 
interrupted under  Standing  Order (Sittings of  the  House, 
&c.),  353.  Resolutions  reported,  and  agreed  to,  356, 

NECESSITOUS  MOTHERS   (Assistance);  Bill  to  empower 
Local  Authorities   to  make  provision  for  the  assistance 
of  necessitous  women  in  contemplation  of,  and  after, 
childbirth  ;  presented,  and ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time, 91.  Second  Reading  deferred,  101,  124,  139,  154. 
171,  191,  2 1 2,  2 3 1,  2 4 4,  2 6 1,  2 8 1. 

N A V AL  E X P E N D I T U RE   (Principal  Naval  Powers).  Vide 

Esquire.  Vide   MEMBERS. 

ACCOUNTS. 

N E W D I G A T E - N E W D E G A T E, 

FRANCIS 

A L E X A N D E R, 

N A V AL  M A R I NE  P AY   and  PENSIONS  A C T,  1865.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

N A V AL  P O L I CY   ;  Motion,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this 
House,  the  declared  policy   of  His  Majesty's  Government 
respecting  the  immediate  provision   of  battleships  of  the 
newest  type  does  not  sufficiently  secure  the  safety  of  the 
empire;  and  Question,  on  Division,  negatived,  85. 

N A V AL  PRIZE  M O N E Y.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

N A V AL  SAVINGS  B A N KS  A C T,  1 8 6 6.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

N EW  MEMBERS.   Vide  MEMBERS. 

N EW  W R I T S.   Vide  ELECTIONS. 

N E W E Y,  K E A D Y,   and  T Y N AN  R A I L W A Y;   Bill  read  the 
first time, and referred  to  the  Examiners,  15.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  20.  Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  31. 
Second  Reading  deferred, 43.  Read  a second  time,  and 
committed,  69.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  145. 
Considered,  as  amended,  155.  Read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  165.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amend­
ments, 440. 
(Cited  as  Newry,  Keady, and  Tynan Rail­
way Act,  1909) Royal  Assent,  447. 

N A V AL  W O R KS  ACTS,  1895,  1 8 9 6,  1 8 9 7,  1899,  1 9 0 1,  1 9 0 3, 

and  1 9 0 5.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

NIGERIA.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

NAVIGATION  and  SHIPPING.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

NORFOLK,  D U KE   of.  Vide   PRIVILEGE. 

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NORTHALLERTON  W A T ER   ;  Bill  read  the  first  time,  and  N O T I CE  taken  that  Forty  Members  were  not  present; 
House  was  told  by  Mr.  Speaker,  and  Forty  Members 
not  being  present,  and  it  being  then  after  Four   of  the 
clock,  the  House was adjourned  by  Mr.  Speaker  without 
Question  first  put,  165,  237,  493. 

ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  IS.  Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  23.  Read  a  second  time,  and 
Instruction  to  the  Committee,  67. 
committed,  25. 
Reported,  with  Amendments,  84. 
Considered,  as 
amended,  98.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  107. 
Agreed  to by  the  Lords, with  Amendments, 353.  Lords' 
Amendments 
(pursuant  to  Order)  agreed  to,  358. 
(Cited  as  Northallerton  Waterworks  Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  381. 

N O R TH  and  SOUTH  SHIELDS  E L E C T R IC  R A I L W AY   ;  Bill 
read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  15. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  -inquired  into 
complied  with,  31.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading, 
45.  Second  Reading  deferred, 72,114,129,142.  Order 
for  Second  Reading  discharged  ;  Bill  withdrawn,  159. 

for  Second  Reading,  221. 

N O R TH  EASTERN  R A I L W AY   [Lords];  Report,  That  the 
Bill  should  originate  in the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  certified to  have  been  complied  with, 
12.  Brought  from  the  Lords,  196.  Read  the first time, 
and  referred  to the  Examiners,  197.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  210. 
Day  appointed 
Second 
Reading  deferred,  224, 234,  245,262,276,  288.  Motion, 
That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a  second  time ;  Amendment 
proposed,  "three  months;"  Debate  arising;  Debate 
adjourned,  307.  Further  adjourned,  311,  318,  324. 
Adjourned  Debate  on Amendment  resumed,  and  further 
adjourned,  334.  Adjourned  Debate   on  Amendment 
resumed;  Amendment  not  made  ;  Bill  read  a  second 
time, and committed, 341.  Reported, with  Amendments, 
360.  Day  appointed  for  consideration,  as  amended,  368. 
Consideration,  as amended,  deferred,  370, 378.  Bill  con­
sidered,  as  amended  ;  Standing  Orders  223  and  243 
suspended  ;  King's  Consent  signified;  Bill  read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments,  379.   To 
which  the  Lords  agree,  414. 
Railway Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  447. 

(Cited  as  North  Eastern 

NURSES  (Registration); Bill  to  regulate  the  registration 
of  Nurses;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time, 35.  Second  Reading  deferred,  48,  64,  75,  92,  101. 
Day  appointed 
Second 
Reading  deferred,  113,  121. 

for  Second  Reading,  109. 

NURSES  (Registration)  (No.  2 )  ;  Bill  to  regulate  the 
qualifications  and  registration  of  trained  Nurses;  pre­
sented,  and  ordered 
Second  Reading  deferred,  66,  78. 

to  be  read  a  second  time,  37. 

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time,  40. 

from  Standing  Committee,  with  Amend­

O A T HS   ;  Bill  to  facilitate  the  administration  of  Oaths 
by  uplifted  hand;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read 
Second  Reading  deferred,  48. 
a  second 
Read  a  second  time,  and  committed   to  a  Standing 
Committee,  61.  B,  64.  Fifteen  Members  added,  73. 
Reported 
ments,  87.  Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  101, 
105,  113,  116,  119,  121,  125.  Considered,  as  amended, 
and  further  consideration  adjourned  at  Five   of 
the 
clock,  240.  Further  consideration,  as  amended,  de­
ferred,  244,  254,  260.  Day  appointed 
further 
consideration,  as  amended,  277.  Further  consideration, 
as  amended,  deferred,  285,  291, 298,  308,  317,  326,  333, 
335,  351,  357,  368,  383,  424.  Further  considered,   as 
amended  ;  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 428.  Agreed 
to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments;  day  appointed 
for  considering  them;  and   to  be  printed,  531.  Lords' 
Amendments  agreed  to,  538. 
(Cited  as  Oaths  Act, 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  539. 

for 

N O R TH  E A ST  LONDON  R A I L W A Y;   Bill  read  the  first 
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  15.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  149.  Read  a  secbnd  time,  and  committed,  168 
Reported,  without  Amendment,  218.  Day  appointed 
for  consideration  (not  amended),  224.  Consideration 
(not  amended)  deferred,  232.  Considered,  241.  Read 
the third  time  and passed,  251.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords, 
without  Amendment,  312. 
(Cited as North East  London 
Railway Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

N O R TH  METROPOLITAN  ELECTRIC  P O W ER  S U P P LY  ; 
Bill  read  the  first  time, and  referred  to  the  Examiners, 
15.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired 
into  complied  with,  27.  Read  a  second  time, and  com­
mitted,  33.  Report 

from  the  Select  Committee   on 

*	  Standing  Orders, on  Petition  for  dispensing  with  Stand­

ing  Order,  128,  That  the  Standing  Order  ought   to  be 
dispensed  with,  34.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  53. 
Day  appointed  for  consideration,   as  amended,  60.  Con­
sideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  62.  Considered,  as 
amended,  67.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  72. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  173. 
Lords'  Amendments  agreed  to,  184. 
(Cited  as North 
Metropolitan  Electric  Power  Supply  Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  192. 

OBJECTION  taken  to  further  PROCEEDING,  36,  62,  89 

(twice),  100,  117,  331,  &c. 

OCCASIONAL  LICENCES.   Vide  W A YS   and  M E A N S. 

OFFENCES  (Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

O LD  A GE  PENSIONS  

(Appropriation Accounts).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

O LD  A GE  PENSIONS   A C T,  1908.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

O L D H AM  CORPORATION   ;  Bill  read  [the  first  time,  and 
ordered  to  be read  a  second  time,  15.  Day  appointed  for 
Second  Reading,  23.  Second  Reading  deferred, 25,  31, 
40, 47,49,57,  65, 67.  Motion, That  the Bill   be now  read 
a  second  time;  Motion,  That  the  Debate   be  now 
adjourned, withdrawn;  original Question  put, and  agreed 
t o;  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  74. 
Instruction  to  the  Committee, 76.  Reported  from  Local 
Legislation  Committee  (Section  A ),  with  Amendments  ; 
Costs  awarded,  173.  Considered,  as  amended,  186. 
Read  the  third  time, and  passed,  204.  Agreed   to  by 
the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  358.  Lords'  Amendments 
(pursuant to  Order)  agreed  to,  360. 
Corporation  Act,  1909) Royal  Assent,  382. 

(Cited as  Oldham 

N O R TH  S EA  FISHERIES  INVESTIGATION  COMMITTEE. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

N O R TH  W E ST  LONDON  R A I L W AY   ;  Bill  read  the  first 
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  15.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  56.  Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  69. 
Reported,  Preamble  not  proved,  167. 

O P EN  SPACES   (Scotland);  Bill  to  facilitate  the  acquisition 
of  Open  Spaces  by  Local  Authorities 
in  Scotland; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  54. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  59,  69,  75,  81,  86,  101,  116, 
124,  128,  133,  139,  142,  154,  158.  Day  appointed  for 
Second  Reading,  169.  Second  Reading  deferred,  217, 
231,  247,  261,  281. 

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R E L A T I VE   t o  B I L LS   : — 

—* 

Examiners 

to  examine  Bills 

(Hybrid),  21,24,  &c. 

Bill  (Allocation   of  Time),  227. 

to Housing, Town Planning,  &c. 

of  Time),  229. 

to  Irish  Land  Bill  (Allocation 

That  the  Minutes  of  Evidence 
and  Proceedings  relative  to  a  Divorce  Bill   be  returned 
to  the  House  of  Lords,  90. 

That  Minutes  of  Evidence  of a 
former  Session  be  referred  to  a  Select  Committee  of 
this  Session,  53,  126.  Minutes  of  Evidence  to  be printed, 
140,  233,  334. 

That  it  be  an  Instruction  to 
Committees  on  Bills  (Private),  67,  75,  76,  104,  159,  300. 
(Public),  73,  221. 

Report  of  Resolution  from  Committee  of 
House,  81. 

—  That  a Bill   be  brought  in  upon 
the  whole 

That  in the  case of  a Provisional 
Order  Bill  Standing  Order  208a   be  suspended,  and 
that  it be  an  Instruction  to  the  Committee  of  Selection 
to  refer  part  of 
the  Bill   to  the  Local  Legislation 
Committee,  162. 

— 

That  Standing  Orders  be  sus­

pended,  and  that  a  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time,  159. 
Order  as  to  so  much  of  Standing  Order  73  relating  to 
Provisional  Order  Bills  suspended,  330. 

—  That  the  adjourned  Debate  on 
Question,  That  a  Bill   be  now  read  a  second  time,  be 
resumed,  135. 

That  Standing  Committee  C 
have  leave  to  sit  while  the  House  is  sitting,  and  after 
Four,  when  the  Development  and  Road  Improvements 
Fund  is under  consideration,  437-8. 

Committee  of  the  whole  House,  81,  92,  &c. 

That  a  Bill   be  committed  to  a 

— — 

That  a  Bill   be  committed  to  a 

Select  Committee,  43,  44,  103. 

— —  That  a  Bill  be  recommitted  to 

— ; —  — 

That  a  Bill   be  read  a  second 

time  upon  this  day  six  months,  120. 

— 

That  further  consideration  of 

Lords'  Amendments  be  adjourned,  534. 

That  a  Resolution   of  the  Select 
Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  with  respect  to  a 
Petition  for  Bill,  be  referred  back  to  the said  Committee, 
139. 

— 

——  That  Lords'  Amendments   to 
Commons' Amendments  be  considered  on  a  future  dav, 
J ' 
143.	  

; 

That  Lords'  Amendments   to  a 
Private  Bill  be  considered  upon  this  day  three  months, 
490. 

That  in  the  case  of  a  Private 
Bill  the  Order  for referring  the  Bill   to  Local  Legislation 
Committee  be  suspended;  Bill  referred to  Committee  on 
unopposed  Bills,  368. 

Sessional  Orders,  3-4. 

relative  to  Ballot  for  Bills  and  Motions,  after 

Amendment  proposed  and  withdrawn,  11. 

relative to  Local  Legislation  Committee,  43. 

relative to  Business  of  the  House,  12, 80,  95, 
109,  132,174,180,205,  219,  226,  227,  229,  233,  342,  347, 
378,  392. 

That 

leave  be  given  to  proper  Officer  to 

attend  a  Trial,  34. 

That  the  Petition   of  the  Trustees  of  the 
British  Museum  be  referred  to  the  Committee  of 
Supply,  30. 

That  the  several  Estimates  presented  during 
the  present  Session  be  referred  to  the  Committee  of 
Supply,  29. 

That  a  Member  be. added   to  the  Committee   of 

Public  Accounts,  130. 

That  a  Message  be  sent  to  the  Lords  as  to 
appointment  of  a Joint Committee,  273.  Requesting  the 
attendance  of  a  Peer  before  a  Committee  on  a  Group 
of  Railway  Bills,  299. 

a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  221. 

relative  to  quorum  on  Standing  Orders  Com­

That  Standing  Orders   be  sus­
pended, and  that  the  Committee  on  the  Bill  have  leave 
to  sit  and  proceed  forthwith,  159. 

That  the  proposed  Clause,  as 
amended  on  consideration  of  the  Bill,  as  amended  in 
Committee,  and  on  recommittal,  be  further  considered, 
442. 

That  the  further  consideration 
in  the  Committee,  be  now 

of  the  Bill,  as  amended 
adjourned,  490. 
— 

the  Standing  Committee,  and  on 
considered,  221. 

That  the  Bill,  as  amended  in 
recommittal,  be 

— 

_	 
That  a  Bill,  as  amended  on 
recommittal,  and  on  consideration,  as  amended,  be 
printed,  222. 

That  Resolutions  reported  from 
Committee  of  Ways  and  Means  of  a  former  day,  and 
agreed  upon  on  a  subsequent  day,  be  now  read, and  Bill 
ordered,  203. 

mittee  for  remainder   of  Session,  75. 

That  Three   be  the  quorum  of  a Joint  Com­

mittee,  292.  Of  a  Committee  appointed  to  draw  up  

Reasons  for  disagreeing  to  Lords'  Amendments,  520;  

525, &c. 


—	 
mittee,  103. 

That  Nine  be  the  quorum  of  a  Select  Com­

—  That  a  Witness  do  attend  a  Committee  on  a  

Group  of  Private  Bills,  82,  137.   Of  Railway  Bills,  151.  


That  a  Committee  be  appointed  to  draw  up 
Reasons  for  disagreeing  to  Lords'  Amendments,  520, 
525,  &c. 

o 

That  the  entry  in  the  Journal  of  the  14th 
July  relating  to  the  withdrawal  of  a  Member  be 
expunged,  311. 

Accounts  and  Papers  relating  to  Revenues  of 
India  to  be  referred to  the  consideration  of  a  Committee 
of  the  whole  House,  345. 

VOL.  164. 

-Sess.  1909. 

4  s  3

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to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME. 

660 

' 

PARLIAMENTARY  PAPERS,  L I ST   of  B I L L S,  &c.  Vide 

ORDERS—continued. 
—	 

relative  to  suspension  of  Standing  Orders  39, 
128,  204,  and  230,  to  extend  the  time  for  depositing 
Petitions  against  Private Bills (Easter),  102. 
tide),  194. 

(Whitsun­

— —  —  to  suspension  of  Standing  " Order  120,  and 
extension  of  time  for  depositing  Petitions  praying   to  be 
heard  against  Bills,  204. 

That  the  Standing  Orders,  as  amended,  be 

printed,  404. 

— 

—  Vide  HOUSE.  RESOLUTIONS. 

ACCOUNTS. 

P A R L I A M E N T A RY  RETURNS.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

PARLIAMENTARY  SEATS   (Peers  of  Scotland);  Bill  to 
enable  Peers  of  Scotland, not  being  Lords  of  Parliament, 
-to  be  elected  and  returned  to  sit  in  the  House  of 
Commons  ;  ordered ;  presented  accordingly,  and  read  the 
first time,  300.  Second  Reading  deferred,  326,  329,  411, 
414,  417,  420,  4.32,  437,  451,  463, 474,  493,  502,  520, 
534. 

P A R T I AL  EXEMPTION  

from  SCHOOL  A T T E N D A N CE 

(.Interdepartmental  Committee).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

HOUSE.

relative  to  Supply.
S U P P L Y. 

  Vide  BUSINESS  of  the 

PASSENGERS  to  and from  PLACES  out  of  EUROPE.  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

ORDNANCE  S U R V E Y.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

PASSENGER  VESSELS  LICENCES.  

Vide  W A YS   and 

ORIENTAL  STUDIES  

in  LONDON  COMMITTEE.   Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

OSBORNE.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

OUTDOOR  R E L I EF  FRIENDLY  SOCIETIES 

(S c o t l a n d ); 

Bill  to  amend  the  Law  relating  to  the  grant  of  Outdoor 
Relief  to  members  of  Friendly  Societies  in  Scotland; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  26. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  33, 47,  55,  60,  66,  70,  81,  113. 

O U T L A W R I ES  ;  Bill  read  the  first  time,  4. 

O X F O RD  and  DISTRICT  T R A M W A YS   ;  Bill  read  the  first 
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  15.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  27.  Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  33. 
Reported,  with  Amendments,  218.  Day  appointed  for 
consideration,  as  amended,  224.  Consideration,  as 
amended,  deferred,  232,  241,  245.  Considered,  as 
amended,  251.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with 
a  new  Title,  256.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  with 
Amendments,  318.  Lords'  Amendments  agreed 
to, 
327. 
(Cited  as  Oxford  and  District  Tramways  Act, 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

9 Edw. VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

P A C I F IC   C A B LE  A C T,  1 9 0 1.  VIDE  ACCOUNTS. 

PARKS  REGULATION   A C T,  1872.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

P A R L I A M E N T: 

—  Prorogued  to  16th  February, by  virtue  of  His 
Majesty's  Commission  under  the  Great  Seal, 2.  Opened 
by  the  King  in  person, 3.  Prorogued,  548. 

PARLIAMENTARY 

CONSTITUENCIES 

(E l e c t o r s, 

fyc.) 

(United Kingdom).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

PARLIAMENTARY  ELECTIONS  (Returning  Officers)  ACTS 
(1875  and  1885)  A M E N D M E N T;  Bill  to  direct  the 
Returning  Officer in  a Parliamentary  Election  to  repay 
to  a candidate  who  has been returned unopposed, or being 
opposed  has  polled  one-third  of  the  total  number  of 
electors  voting  in  such  Election,  the  amount  of  any 
deposit  made  by  such  candidate  under  and  by  virtue  of 
the  Parliamentary  Elections  (Returning  Officers)  Acts, 
1875  and  1885, or  the  Parliamentary  Elections  (Return­
ing  Officers) (Scotland)  Acts,  1878  and  1885  ;  presented, 
and ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  476. 

P A R L I A M E N T A RY  PAPERS   (Recess).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

M E A N S. 

PATENTS,  DESIGNS,  

and 

T R A DE  M A R K S.  

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

PAUPERISM  (England  and  Wales) 

(Half-yearly  State­

ments).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

PAUPERISM  (England  and  Wales)  (Monthly  Statements). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

PAWNING  INDUSTRIAL  TOOLS   ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Law 
relating  to  the  pawning  of  Tools,  implements,  instru­
ments, or  Appliances  used  in  connection  with  any manual 
trade  or  handicraft;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time,  35.  Second  Reading  deferred,  47,  59, 
66,  78,  83,  86,  92,  119,  121,  125,  128,  131,  134,  143,  147, 
149,  161,165,  175,  179,  183.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  214.  Second  Reading  deferred,  231,  237,  240, 
244,  247,  251,254,264,  272,282,291,  309,  326,  352,  362, 
368,  377,  384. 

P A Y M E NT   of  FINES,  &c.;  Bill   to  amend  the  Law  with 
regard  to  the  payment  of  Fihes,  Damages,  and  Costs, 
and  to  imprisonment  in  default of  payment  thereof,  and 
for  other  purposes  connected  therewith ;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read a  second  time,  374. 

P A Y M E NT   of  JURORS  ;  Bill  to  provide  for  the payment   of 
the  expenses  of  Jurors  attending  assizes  and  quarter 
sessions  in  England  and  Wales;  presented,  and  ordered 
to be  read  a second  time,  61. 

PAYMENT   of  M E M B E R S;   Motion,  That,  in  the  opinion 
of  this  House,  the  non-payment  of  Members  and  the 
liability  of  candidates for  the  returning  officers'  expenses 
render  it  impossible  for  many  constituencies to  exercise 
a  free  choice  in  their  selection  of  candidates  and  election 
of  Members  of  Parliament,  &c.;  and  Question  put, 
pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate),  and 
agreed  to,  161. 

P A Y M E NT  of  R A T ES  ;  Bill  to  regulate  the  payment  of 
Rates  when  made  by  the  owner  instead  of  the  occupier; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  40. 
Second  Reading  deferred, 55,  64,  81,  95. 

P A Y M E N TS 

out  of  CONSOLIDATED  FUND  
DEVELOPMENT   of  ROADS.  Vide  FINANCE  [Consoli­
dated Fund]  COMMITTEE. 

towards 

PEDLARS  ACTS 

AMENDMENT   ;  Bill  to  amend 

the 
Pedlars  Acts,  as  regards  persons  for  whom  certificates 
shall  not  be  required  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to be  read 
a  second  time,  28.  Secoud  Reading  deferred,  42,  44, 
48,  52,  56,  60,  75,  78,  81,  86,  89, 93,  95,  97,  101,  105,. 
114,  116,  119,  121,  125,  128,  131,  134.  Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  187.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
213,  220,237,  254,256,  261,  265, 268,  281. 

 
$  EDW.  VII  J.  I N D EX  to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  AND  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME. 

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P E E L,  W I L L I AM 
V i de  MEMBERS. 

ROBERT  W E L L E S L E Y, 

E s q u i r e. 

PIER  and  HARBOUR  PROVISIONAL  ORDERS 

(NO. 

2);

PEKIN  SYNDICATE  [Lords] ;  Report,  That  the  Bill should 
originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with,  12. 

P E N AL  SERVITUDE  ACTS   (Conditional  Licence).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

PERMANENT 
ACCOUNTS. 

CHARGES 

COMMUTATION. 

V i d  e 

PERSIA.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PETERHEAD  HARBOUR.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PETITIONS  : 
— 

PUBLIC  ;  presented,  10,  &c. 

PUBLIC PETITIONS ;  Select  Committee, 
to  whom  shall be  referred  all  Petitions  presented  to  the 
House, with  the  exception   of  such  as  relate  to  Private 
Bills ;  and that  such  Committee  do  classify  and  prepare 
abstracts  of  the  same,  in  such  form  and  manner  as  shall 
appear  to  them  best  suited  to  convey  to  the  House  all 
requisite  information  respecting  their  contents,  and  do 
report  the  same  from  time  to  time  to  the  House;  and 
that  the  Reports  of  the  Committee  do  set  forth,  in 
respect of  each  Petition,  the  number  of  signatures  which 
are  accompanied  by  addresses,  and  which  are  written  on 
in  every  case  by  the  prayer  of  the 
sheets  headed 
Petition  ,* provided  that  on  every  separate  sheet  after 
the  first  the  prayer  may   be  reproduced  in  print  or  by 
other mechanical process;  and that  such  Committee  have 
power  to  direct  the  printing  in extenso  of  such  Petitions, 
or  of  such  parts  of  Petitions,  as  shall  appear  to  require 
i t;  and  that such  Committee  have  power   to  report  their 
opinion  and  observations 
thereupon  to  the  House; 
appointed  and nominated;  Three  to  be the  quorum,  31. 
First  Report,  90.  Second  Report,  197.  Third  Report, 
286.  Fourth  Report,  404.  Fifth  Report,  491.  Vide 
ACCOUNTS. 

—  for  A i d;  King's  Recommendation  signi­

fied,  16.  Referred  to  the  Committee  of  Supply  (British 
Museum),  30. 

— - 

Petition  for  alteration   of  the  Finance 
Bill  ;  presented   by  the  Lord  Mayor   of  Dublin  at  the 
Bar,  217. 

Bill  to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders  made  by  the 
Board  of  Trade  under  the  General  Pier  and  Harbour 
Act,  1861,  relating   to  Bognor,  Heme  Bay,  and  Truro  ; 
presented;  read  the  first  time,  and  referred   to  the 
Examiners,  184.  Report,  Standing  Orders  applicable 
thereto  complied  with,  210.  Bill  read  a  second  time, 
and  committed,  213.  Reported,  with  Amendments; 
' Considered,  as 
Provisional  Orders  confirmed,  252. 
amended,  255.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  257. 
Agreed  to by the Lords,  with  an  Amendment, 318.  Day 
appointed  for  consideration,  319. 
Lords'  Amendment 
agreed  to,  322. 
Confirmation  ( No. 2)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited  as  Pier  and  Harbour  Orders 

PLACES  of  WORSHIP  (Enfranchisement);  Bill  to  authorise 
the  enfranchisement of  the  sites  of  Places  of  Worship 
held  under  lease;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second  time,  41.  Second  Reading  deferred,  66,  71,  85, 
100,  106,  110,  113,  116,  119,  121,  124,  128,  138,  153, 
171,  190,  211,  223,  243,  259,  280,  297,  316,  332,  349, 
367,  376,  383.  Bill  withdrawn,  397. 

PLACES  of  WORSHIP  (Enfranchisement)  (No.  2 );  Bill 
to  authorise  the  enfranchisement  of  the  sites of  Places 
of  Worship  held  under  lease ;  presented,  and  ordered  to 
be  read  a  second  time, 429.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
436,  442,  445,  451,  463,  465,  468,  470,  474,  482,  485, 
493,  502, 510,  521,  528,  535. 

PLUMAGE  (Prohibition  of  Sale or  Exchange of);  Bill  to 
prohibit  the  sale  or  exchange of  the  Plumage  and  Skins 
of  certain  wild  Birds;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read 
a  second  time,  91.  Second  Reading  deferred,  158,  215. 
Order  for  Second  Reading  read  and  discharged;  Bill 
withdrawn,  219. 

PLUMAGE  (Prohibition of  Sale  or  Exchange  of)  (No.  2 )  ; 
Bill  to  prohibit  the  sale  or  exchange  of  Plumage  and 
Skins of  certain  wild  Birds;  presented,  and  ordered   to 
be  read  a second  time,  236.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
244,  247,  261,  264,  281.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  337.  Second  Reading  deferred,  368. 

PLYMOUTH  P I ER  and  W I N T ER  GARDENS  J  Lords'];

Report,  That  the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of 
Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified   to  have 
been  complied  with,  12. 

POISONS 

a nd 

PHARMACY 

ACTS, 

1 9 0 8. 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

_ _  — 

PRIVATE ; 

for  additional  provision, 

POLICE  A C T,  1 8 9 0.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

referred  to  the  Examiners,  108,  150. 

referred  to  a  Select  Committee,  128. 

. 

— 

Petition  for  proper  Officer   to  attend 

Trial;  leave  given,  34. 

PHILIPPINE 
ACCOUNTS. 

ISLANDS 

(New  Customs  Tariff). 

Vide 

{NO.  

PIER  a nd  HARBOUR  PROVISIONAL  ORDER 

1 ) 
[.Lords]  ;  Bill,  intituled  An  Act  to  confirm  a  Provisional 
Order  made  by  the  Board  of  Trade  under  the  General 
Pier  and  Harbour  Act,  1861,  relating   to  Tralee  and 
Fenit;  brought from  the  Lords;  read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  277.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  applicable  thereto  complied  with,  306.  Bill  read 
a  second  time,  and  committed,  310.  Bill  reported,  with 
Amendments;  Provisional  Order  confirmed,  331.  Con­
sidered,  as  amended,  333.  Bill  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  with  Amendments,  336.   T o  which  the  Lords 
atrree,  353. 
(Cited  as  Pier  and  Harbour  Order 
Confirmation (No.  1)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

POLICE ;  Bill  to amend  the Metropolitan  Police  Acts, 18291 
to  1899,  and to  make  better provision  for  the widows and 
children of constables who lose their lives  in the  execution 
of  their  duty;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a 
second  time,  423.  Second  Reading  referred,  432,  436. 
Read  a second  time;  Bill  committed   to  a  Committee  of 
the  whole  House,  442.  Committee  deferred, 445,  446, 
Considered  in  Committee  ;  Motion  for  Progress  agreed 
to, 448.  Committee  deferred,  451.  Bill  considered   in 
Committee,and  reported,467.  Considered,  as  amended; 
Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  470.  Agreed   to  by 
the  Lords,  with  Amendments;  day  appointed  for  con­
sidering  them;  and  to  be  printed, 531.  Lords'Amend­
ments  agreed  to, 538. 
Assent,  539. 

( Cited as Police  Act,  1909)  Royal 

POLICE  (Counties  and  Boroughs,  England  and  Wales), 

V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

POLICE  [Expenses] ;  Motion  for  the  House   to  resolve 
itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  of  authorising  the 
payment,  out  of  moneys  provided by  Parliament,  of  such 
sums  as  may be  required  for  the  payment   of  services 

VOL.  164. 

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to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME. 

662 

POLICE  [Expenses]—continued. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS  (Borougk  of  Darlington).  Vide 

rendered  by  the  Metropolitan  Police  for  imperial  and 
national  purposes,  in  pursuance  of  any  Act   of  the 
present  Session  to  amend  the  Metropolitan  Police  Acts, 
1829  to  1899 j  King's  Recommendation  signified,  443. 
Matter  considered 
Resolution 
reported,  and  agreed  to,  446. 

in  Committee,  445. 

POLICE  FORCES  (Weekly  Rest-Day);  Select  Committee 
appointed  to  inquire  and  report  whether,  having  regard 
to  the  conditions  of  service  in  Police  Forces  in  the 
United  Kingdom,  it  is desirable  that  provision  should  be 
made, by  legislation  or  otherwise,  for  granting  to  every 
constable  one  full  day  off  duty   in  seven;  what, if  any, 
alterations 
in  the  conditions  of  service  and  police 
administration  should  accompany  this  change;  what 
would  be  the  cost,  and  how  it  should  be  borne  so  as  not 
to  increase  the  charge  on imperial  funds  ;  nominated  ; 
power  to  send  for  persons,  papers,  and  records  ;  Three 
to  be  the  quorum,  24.  Police  (Weekly  Holiday)  Bill 
referred  to  the  Select  Committee,  44.  Minutes   of 
Evidence  of  last  Session  referred  to  the  Select  Com­
mittee,  126.  Minutes  of  Evidence  to  be  printed,  140. 
Report,  140. 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS 

(County  of  Dorset). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS 

(County  of  Durham). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS 

(County  of  Essex). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS 

(County  of  Lancaster).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS 

(County  of  London). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS 

(County  of  Middlesex).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS  ( County  of  Northumberland). Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS 

(C o u n ty

of 

Southampton).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLICE  (Liverpool  Inquiry) ;  Bill  to  facilitate  the  pro­

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING 

DISTRICTS 

(County

of 

Suffolk). 

Vide 

ceedings  of  any  Commissioner  who  may  be  appointed 
to  hold  an  Inquiry  respecting  the  conduct   of  the  Police 
of  the  City  of  Liverpool  in  dealing  with  disturbances  of 
the  peace  in  that  city  during  the  twelve  months  pre­
ceding  the  passing  of  this  A c t  ;  presented,  and  ordered 
to  be  read  a second  time,  500.  Bill  read a second  time; 
committed  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  504. 
Bill  considered  in  Committee  ;  reported,  without  Amend­
ment ;  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  508.  Agreed  to 
by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  545. 
(Cited  as 
Police  (Liverpool Inquiry)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
539. 

POLICE  (Malicious Injuries)  {Ireland.)  ;  Bill  to  amend the 
Law relating  to Police  and Malicious  Injuries in  Ireland  ; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  18. 
Motion,  That,  the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time; 
Amendment  proposed,  "  six  months,"  and,  on  Division, 
made;  Question  put,  pursuant   to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate)  ;  Second  Reading  put  off  for  six 
months,  185. 

POLICE  (Metropolis).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

POLICE  (Preservation  of  Order  at  Public  Meetings) 

(Departmental  Committee).  Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

POLICE  (Scotland).  Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

POLICE  SUPERANNUATION  (Scotland);  Bill  to amend  the 
Police  (Scotland)  Act,  1890 ;  presented,  and  ordered   to 
be  read  a  second  time,  19.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
31,  56,  69,  78,  83,  92,  101,  113,  124,  128. 

POLICE  SUPERANNUATION  (Scotland) (No.  2)  ;  Bill  to 
amend  the  Police  (Scotland)  Act,  1890;  presented, 
;  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  211.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  240,  256.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  283,  302,  380. 
Second  Reading  deferred, 
395. 

POLICE  (Weekly  Holiday) ;  Bill  to  provide  one  day's  rest 
in  seven  to  the  Police  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be 
read  a  second  time,  28.  Second  Reading  deferred,  38, 
,  42.  Read  a  second  time, and  committed   to  the  Select 
Committee  on  Police  Forces  (Weekly  Rest-Day),  44. 
Reported  from  the  Select  Committee   on  Police  Forces 
(Weekly  Rest-Day),  without  Amendment,  141. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS 

(County

of 

Surrey). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS 

(City

of  Wakefield). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS  (County  of  Westmoreland).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS  (West  Riding  of  Yorkshire).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

PONTTPOOL  GAS  and  WATER  [Lords]  ;  Report,  That 
the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  certified   to  have  been  com­
plied  with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords;  read  the  first 
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  169.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  184.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  194. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  204.  Read  a  second  time, 
and  committed,  206.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  235. 
Considered, as amended,  255.  Read  the third  time  and 
passed,  with  Amendments,  262.   To  which  the  Lords 
agree,  270. 
(Cited  as Pontypool Gas  and  Water  Act, 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

PONTYPRIDD  WATER ;  Bill  read  the 

for  Second  Reading,  33. 

first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  15.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  27. 
Second 
Day  appointed 
Reading  deferred,  36, 40, 47,  49,  57, 65.  Read  a  second 
time,  and committed;  Instruction  to  the  Committee,  67. 
Reported,  with  Amendments,  163. 
Considered,  as 
amended,  172.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  184. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  318. 
Lord's  Amendments  agreed  to,  327. 
pridd Waterworks  (Amendment) Act,  1909) Royal  Assent, 
381. 

(Cited  as  Ponty­

POOR  L AW  AMENDMENT   (Scotland);  Bill  to  simplify 
the  mode  of  raising  the  assessment  for  the  Poor  
in 
Scotland  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  130. 

POOR  L AW  MEDICAL  OFFICERS   (Scotland).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POLLING  DISTRICTS 

(County 

of  Berks). 

Yide 

POOR  L A WS  a nd  R E L I EF   o f  DISTRESS  (Royal 

Commis­

ACCOUNTS. 

sion).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

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POOR  LAWS  COMMISSION  

(Unemployment);  Motion,: 
That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House,  it 
is  urgently; 
necessary  to  take  steps  for  the  decasualisation  of  casual ' 
labour,  and  for  the  absorption  of  the  surplus  labour5 
thereby  thrown  out  of  employment;  also  to  regularise 
the  demand for  labour   to  develop  trade  union  insurance 
against  the  risks  of  unemployment,  and  to  establish 
training colonies and detention  colonies ;  withdrawn,  178. 

POOR  RELIEF   (England and  Wales).  Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

POOR  RELIEF   Transfer of Inmates) ;  Bill to  enable Boards 
of  Guardians  to  effect  the  transfer   of  chargeable  poor 
persons from  one  institution  to  another;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  271.  Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  295,  312. 

PRISONERS  awaiting  TRIAL   i n  SPAIN.  V i de  ADJOURN­

MENT  MOTIONS.  HOUSE. 

PRISONS.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PRISONS  (Scotland) [Lords]  ;  Bill,  intituled  A n  A ct   to 
provide  for  the  appointment   of  Women  as  members  of 
Visiting  Committees  for  Prisons   in  Scotland;  brought 
from  the  Lords,  414.  Read  the  first  time, 418,  Second 
Reading  deferred, 425, 432, 436, 442,  445,  451, 462,  473, 
475,  478,  482.  Read  a  second  time;  Bill  committed   to 
a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  485.  Committee 
deferred,  493,  502.  Bill  considered  
in  Committee; 
reported,  without  Amendment;  read the  third  time  and 
passed,  without  Amendment,  520. 
(Cited  as Prisons 
(Scotland Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  539. 

PORT   of  LONDON  A C T.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

POSTAL  PACKETS  (Lotteries);  Bill  to  confer  on  the  

Postmaster  General 
further  powers   to  prevent  the  

circulation  of  Letters  and  Postal  Packets  relating   to  

Lotteries;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a  second  

time,  118.  Order  for  Second  Reading   on  future  day  

discharged;  Bill  withdrawn,  156.  


PRIVATE  BILLS  ;  Standing  Orders  39,  128,  204,  and  230 
suspended  ;  time  for  depositing  Petitions,  &c.  extended 
(Easter),  102  (Whitsuntide),  194.  Suspension  of  Stand­
ing  Orders  relating  to  Bills  returned  by  the  Lords, 
with  Amendments,  346.  Vide  BILLS,  PRIVATE. 
STANDING  ORDERS. 

PRIVATE  BILLS 

a nd  PRIVATE  BUSINESS. 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

POST  OFFICE.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

POST  OFFICE  (Foreign and  Colonial Parcel Post).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

POST  OFFICE  (Lotteries  and  Obscene Matter) ;  Bill  to 
confer  on  the  Postmaster  General  further  powers   to 
prevent  the  use  of  the  Post  for  the  conduct   of  Lotteries 
or  traffic in  Obscene  Matter ;  presented,  and  ordered   to 
be  read  a second  time,  160.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
175,  185,  194,  212,  217,  232,  240.  Day  appointed  for 
Second  Reading,  286.  Second  Reading  deferred,  291, 
317,  329,  352. 

POST  OFFICE  SAVINGS  BANKS.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

POST  OFFICE  TELEGRAPHS,  

including  TELEPHONES. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

POULTRY  BREEDING 

(Scotland) 

(Departmental 

Com­

mittee).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

PRESTATYN  URBAN  DISTRICT  COUNCIL;  B i ll  r e ad  t he 

first  time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  15. 
Read  a second  time,  and  committed,  25.  Report  from 
Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  on  Petition  for 
dispensing  with  Standing  Order  128,  That  the  Standing 
Order  ought  to  be  dispensed  with,  34.  Reported  from 
Local  Legislation  Committee  (Section  A ),  with  Amend­
ments,  248.  Considered,  as  amended,  285.  King's 
Consent  signified;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
294.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  361. 
Lords'Amendments  (pursuant  to  Order)  agreed  to,  362. 
(Cited  as  Prestatyn  Urban  District  Council  Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  382. 

PRESTON,  CHORLEY,  a nd  HORWICH  TRAMWAYS  ;  B i ll 
read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  15. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
complied  with,  20.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and 
Committed,  33.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  and  an 
amended  Title,  94.  Considered,  as  amended,  107. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  117.  Agreed  to  by 
the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  258.  Lords'  Amendments' 
agreed  to,  268. 
Tramways  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

(Cited as Preston, Chorley,  and Horwich 

PREVENTION   o f  CRIME  ACT,  1908.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PRICES   o f  EXPORTED  COAL.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PRIVATE  LEGISLATION  PROCEDURE 

(Scotland) 

A C T, 
1899 ;  Report  of  names of  Fifteen  Members  to  form  the 
Parliamentary  Panel  of  Members  to  act  as  Commis­
sioners  under  the  Act,  28.  Report   of  the  Chuirman  of 
Ways  and  Means  of  Bills  which  should  originate  in  the 
House  of  Lords,  30.  Member  discharged  from  the 
Parliamentary  Panel  appointed  to  act  as  Commissioners 
under  the  Act,  another  appointed,  35.  Report   by  the 
Chairman  of  Committees  of  the  House  of  Lords  and  the 
Chairman  of  Ways  and Means in the House  of  Commons 
under  the  Private  Legislation  Procedure 
(Scotland) 
Act,  1899,  that  they  are   of  opinion  (1)  that  the  pro­
visions  of  Clause  108  of  the  Colinton  Tramways  Order 
and  of  Clause  10  of  the  Hamilton  Burgh  Order  are   of 
such  a  character  that  they  ought  to  be  dealt  with  by 
Private  Bill  and  not   by  Provisional  Order  ;  and  (2) 
that, save  as aforesaid, the Provisional  Orders be  allowed 
to  proceed,  subject to  such  recommendations  as  they  may 
hereafter  make  with  respect  to  the  several  Orders,  257. 

[Lords]. 

Vide  BILLS.  DUNOON  BURGH  BILL   [Lords], 
GLASGOW  CORPORATION  BILL 
ZETLAND 
MASONIC  SICK  and  W I D O WS  and  ORPHANS  FUND 
ORDER  CONFIRMATION  BILL  [Lords].  MUSSELBURGH 
GAS  ORDER  CONFIRMATION  BILL. 
CALEDONIAN 
R A I L W AY  ORDER  CONFIRMATION  B I L L.  MUSSEL­
BURGH  CORPORATION  (Extension  of  Boundaries,  ^c.) 
ORDER  CONFIRMATION  BILL.  GLASGOW  HOSPITAL 
f or  SKIN  DISEASES  ORDER  CONFIRMATION  B I L L. 
MERCHANTS  HOUSE   o f  GLASGOW 
and 
Ewing  Bequests)  ORDER  CONFIRMATION  BILL.  GREAT 
NORTH   o f  SCOTLAND  R A I L W AY  ORDER  CONFIRMA­
EDINBURGH  MERCHANT  COMPANY 
TION  BILL. 
ENDOWMENTS  ORDER  CONFIRMATION  BILL 
[Lords], 
SAINT  ANDREWS  W A T ER  ORDER  CONFIRMATION 
BILL  [Lords]. 
FIRMATION  B I LL  [Lords]. 
BILL 
FIRMATION  BILL. 

ARDROSSAN  HARBOUR  ORDER  CON­

IRVINE  HARBOUR  ORDER  CON­

GLASGOW  CORPORATION 

(Buchanan 

[Lords], 

PRIVATE  ^LEGISLATION  PROCEDURE 

(Scotland)  A C T, 

1899.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

PRIVILEGES I 

That  a  Committee  of  Privileges  be 
appointed, 4.  Nominated  ;  power  to  send  for  persons, 
papers,  and  records  ;  Five  to  be  the  quorum,  48.  Mem­
ber  discharged  from  the  Committee;  another  Member 
added,  337.  Report,  449. 

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PRIVILEGE 

(Intervention  of  Peers  at - Parliamentary 
Elections);  Complaint  made by  Mr.  Dillon,  Member  for 
East  Mayo,  that  the  Duke   of  Norfolk  had  concerned 
himself  in  the  Election  of  a  Member  to  the  House  of 
Commons  for  the  County   of  Derby  (High  Peak  Divi­
sion)  ;  Motion,  That,   it  having  b e en   represented  to  this 
House  that the Duke  of  Norfolk  did infringe  the liberties 
and  privileges  of  this  House  by  concerning  himself  in 
the  Election  of  a  Member  to  represent  the  County  of 
Derby  (High  Peak  Division)   in  the  Commons,  the 
Committee  of  Privileges  do  inquire  into  the  said  alleged 
breach  of  privilege  ;  Amendment  proposed,  to  leave  out 
words  and  add  others, and, on  Division, not  made  ;  Main 
Question put, and  agreed to  ;  Resolution,  &c., 319.  Yide 
COMMITTEES. 

PROCEEDINGS  postponed  at  a quarter  after  Eight;  Army 
(Committee),  under  Standing  Order 
(Annual)  Bill 
No.  8,  103.  Resumed,  104.  Cinematograph  Bill  (Second 
Reading),  under  Standing  Order No.   4,  116.  Resumed, 
116.  Consolidated  Fund  (No.   2)  Bill (Second  Reading), 
under  Standing  Order  No. 8,  80.  Resumed,  81.  Finance 
Bill  (Committee),  under  Standing  Order  No.   8 ,  263< 
Resumed,  263.  Finance  Bill  (Committee),  under  Stand­
ing  Order  No.  8,  283.  Resumed,  284.  Finance  Bill 
(Committee),  under  Standing  Order  No.  8,  300.  R e­
sumed,  300.  Housing,  Town  Planning,  &c. Bill  (Second 
Reading),  under  Standing  Order  No.   8,  99.  Resumed, 
100. 
Irish  Land  Bill  (Second  Reading), under  Standing 
Order No.  4,  88.  Resumed, 89.  On going into  Committee 
of  Supply,  under  Standing  Order  No.  8,  61.  Resumed, 
62.  Under  Standing  Order  No.  4,  in  Supply,  35.  Re­
sumed,  36.  Adjournment  of  the  House  under  Standing 
Order  No.  10,  in  Supply,  38.  Resumed,  38.  Under 
Standing  Order  No.  8,  in  Supply,  55.  Resumed.  55. 
Under  Standing  Order  No.  8, in  Supply,  127.  Resumed, 
127.  Under  Standing  Order  No.  8,  in  Supply,  146. 
Resumed,  146.  Under  Standing  Order  No.   8,  in  Sup­
ply,  164.  Restuned,  164.  Under  Standing  Order  No.   8, 
in  Supply,  236.  Resumed, 236.  Under  Standing  Order 
No. 8, in Supply,  253.  Resumed,  253.  Under  Standing 
Order  No.  8,  in  Supply,  307.  Resumed,  307.  Under 
Standing  Order  No.  8,  in  Supply,  334.  Resumed,  335. 
Under  Standing  Order  No.   8,  on report  of  Supply,  47. 
Resumed,  48.  Under  Standing  Order  No.   4,  on  Report 
of  Supply,  51.  Resumed,  52.  
In  Committee  of  Ways 
and  Means,  under  Standing  Order  No.   4,  143.  Resumed, 
143.  In  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means, under  Standing 
Order  No.   4,  161.  Resumed,  162.  Under  Standing 
Order  No.   8,  182.  Resumed,  182. 

PROFESSIONAL  ACCOUNTANTS ;  Bill  to  provide  for  the 
registration  of  Professional  Accountants 
in  Great 
Britain  and  Ireland,  and  for  other  relative  purposes; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  364. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  384. 

PROHIBITION  of  VIVISECTION ;  Bill  to  prohibit  experi­

ments  on  living  Animals  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be • 
read  a  second  time,  80.  Second  Reading  deferred,  92, 
113,  124.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  187.  : 
Second  Reading  deferred, 213,  220,  237,  254,  272. 

PROSECUTION 

for  FRAUDS ;  B i l l;  to  confer  additional 
powers  on the  Public  Prosecutor   in  relation  to  Frauds;  

presented,  and ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  J 74. 


in  which  unnecessary  expense  has  been  incurred;  and 
also to  assist  Mr.  Speaker  in the  arrangements  for  the 
Official Report  of  Debates  ;  nominated;  power  to  send 
for persons, papers, and records;  Three   to be the  quorum, 
25.  Special  Report,  49.  Report,  455. 

PUBLIC  ACCOUNTS 

(A r m  y  Votes). 

Y i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  ACCOUNTS  COMMITTEE;  to  consist   of  Fifteen 
Members,  nominated;  power  to  send for persons,  papers, 
and  records;  Five  to  be  the  quorum,  27.  First  Report, 
Second  Report,  136. 
45.  Member  added,  130. 
Third  Report,  136. 
Fifth 
Report,  452. 

Fourth  Report,  185. 

PUBLIC  ACCOUNTS  (  N a v  y  Votes). 

Y i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  BILLS.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

P U B L IC  H E A L TH  A CT 

( 1 8 7 5)  AMENDMENT 

(W a t er 

Rights);  Bill  to  empower  Local  Authorities  to  acquire 
Water  Rights  otherwise  than   by  agreement;  presented, 
and  ordered  to be  read  a  second  time,  19.  Second  Read­
ing  deferred,  114,  116,  119,  128,  131,  134,139,  142,  143, 
147.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  151.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  158,  171,  176,179,  183,185,  194,  215, 
217,  220,  232,237,240,  244,  247,251,254,  261,  265,  282, 
285,  288,  291,  299,  309,  317, 326,  333,352,358,  362,368, 
377,  384,395. 

PUBLIC  H E A L TH 

and 

SOCIAL  CONDITIONS. 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  HEALTH  OFFICERS;  Bill   to  amend  the  L aw 
relating  to  the  qualification  and  tenure  of  office  of 
Medical  Officers of  Health  and  Inspectors,  and for  other 
purposes  connected  therewith;  presented,  and  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time,  46.  Day  appointed  for 
Second  Reading,  117.  Second  Reading  deferred,  169, 
250,  312,  384. 

PUBLIC  HEALTH  (Provisional  Orders);  Bill  to  amend  the 
Public  Health  A c t,  1875,   in  relation  to  Provisional 
Orders;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a  second 
time,  41.  Second  Reading  deferred,  66,  81,  86,  101. 
Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  118,  187.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  219,  254,  288. 

PUBLIC  H E A L TH  (Regulations   as  to  Food)  A C T,  1 9 0 7. 

V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

. P U B L IC  H E A L TH   (Scotland)  A CT   (1897)  E X T E N S I O N; 
Bill  to  extend  the powers  and  provisions  with  respect  to 
the  construction  and carrying  of  sewers  of  the  Public 
Health  (Scotland)  Act,  1897,   to  water  mains and  pipes 
of  statutory  trustees  and  commissioners  of  water  under­
takings ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  494. 

PUBLIC  HEALTH  (Sewers  and  Drains);  Bill   to  amend 
the  Public  Health  Acts  with  respect   to  the  combined 
drainage  of  two  or  more  houses  belonging  to  the  same 
owner;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a  second 
time,  263. 

PUBLIC-HOUSES  IMPROVEMENT  [.Lords]  ;  Bill,  intituled 
An  A.ct  to  facilitate  the  provision  of  accommodation  f or 
supplying  Food,  and  other  improvements  in  connection 
with premises  licensed  for the  sale of  intoxicating  liquors 
by  retail;  brought from  the  Lords,  361. 

PROSECUTION   o f  OFFENCES  A C T S,  1879   t o  1 9 0 8. 

Y i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  INCOME  a nd  EXPENDITURE.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLICATIONS  a nd  DEBATES  REPORTS   ;  S e l e ct  C o m­

mittee  appointed  to  examine  the  Publications  printed 
by  Order  of  this  House,  or  presented  to  it  through: 
Public  Departments,  and  to  call  attention  to  any  case 

PUBLIC  MONEYS  (Acquisition  

of  Site)  A C T,  1895,  A c-

V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  OFFICES  S I TE   {Dublin)  A C T,   1903. 

Vide 

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V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  RECORDS  (Colonial  Office)  (New  Zealand  Com­

pany).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

That  words  proposed  to  be  left  out  stand 

part of  a Resolution  of  Ways  and  Mean?,  152. 

put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  No.  11, 

32,  77,  109,  180,  &c. 

PUBLIC  RECORDS  (Clerk  of  the Peace  of  the  County  Pala­

tine  of Lancaster).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

put,  pursuant  to  Order  of  the  House,  on 

Bills  in  the  House,  292,  328,  &c. 

PUBLIC  RECORDS  (County Palatine  of  Chester and  Princi­

in  Committee,  292,  293,  345,  398-9,  402, 

pality of  Wales).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

404-5,  412-13. 

PUBLIC  RECORDS  (His  Majesty's  Customs  and  Excise). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  RECORDS  (Ireland).  

V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  RECORDS  REGULATIONS.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  REVENUE  (Interception).  

V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  TRUSTEE.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  W O R KS  (Ireland).  

V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

PCTBLIC  W O R KS  LOAN  BOARD.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

PUBLIC  WORKS  LOANS  ;  Bill  to  grant  money  f or  the 
purpose  of  certain  Local  Loans  out  of  the  Local  Loans 
Fund,  and  for  other  purposes  relating   to  Local  Loans  ; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  242. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  246,  250, 254,  259,  264,  268, 
272.  Read  a  second  time  ;  Bill  committed   to  a  Com­
mittee  of  the  whole  House,  275.  Committee  deferred, 
279,  284,  287,  291,  293,  298, 308, 316, 323, 325, 332, 335, 
340,  343,  345,  351,  357,  359,  361.  Bill  considered   in 
Committee,  and  reported,  without  Amendment,  363. 
Third  Reading  deferred,  366,  376.  Bill  read  the  third 
time  and  passed,  378.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with­
out  Amendment,  411. 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  380. 

(Cited  as  Public  Works  Loans 

PUBLIC  W O R KS  LOANS 

[Remission]; 

M o t i on 

f or 

t he 

House  to  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  of 
authorising  the  remission  of  a  debt  due  to  the  Public 
Works  Loan  Commissioners,  in  pursuance  of  any  Act 
of  the  present  Session  to  grant  money  for  the  purpose 
of  certain  Local  Loans  out   of  the  Local  Loans  Fund, 
and for  other  purposes  relating  to  Local  Loans  ;  King's 
Recommendation  signified,  277.  Committee  deferred, 
284,  287,  291,  293,  298,  308.  Matter  considered  in 
Committee,  311.  Report  deferred, 316,  323.  Resolution 
reported,  and  agreed  to,  325. 

PUNISHMENT  of  OFFENDERS;  Bill   to  mitigate  the  L aw 
with  regard  to  the  Punishment  of  Offenders,  and  for 
other  purposes  connected  therewith;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  374. 

PURCHASE  of  LAND  (England and Wales)  ;  Bill to  provide 
facilities  for  the  sale  of  Land  to  occupying  tenants,  and 
to  extend  the  system  of  peasant  proprietary  in  England 
and  Wales;  presented,  and  ordered  to be  read  a  second 
time,  26.  Second  Reading  deferred,  64,  75,  92,  105. 

in  Committee  on  matter,  293. 
put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  No.  15 

(Supply,  Vote   on  Account),  55. 

to  Main 
Question  on  the  Amendment 
Question  claimed,  put accordingly,  pursuant  to  Standing 
Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  22. 

—-— 

Main  Question  claimed  and  put  accordingly, 
pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate),  29,42. 

— 

— -• Original  Question  claimed,  put  accordingly, 

pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  59. 

put  forthwith  (abuse  of  Rules),  295. 

Question  for  the  Third  Reading   of  a  Bill 

put  forthwith,  434. 

Question  put,  That  the  Question,  That  the 
words  of  a  Clause  to  the  end  of  a certain  page  and  line 
stand  part  of  the  Clause,  be  now  put,  314,  &c. 
Questions on  Clauses, and  on  Amendments  moved by  the 
Government  of  which  notice  had  been  given,  put  forth­
with,  &c.,  292,  398-9,  402,  404-5,  412-13,  434,  444. 
Questions  necessary  to  dispose  of  Clauses  put  forthwith, 
398,  402, 404-5,  408,  412-13,  415-16. 

—	 

the 
Business to  be  concluded  at  this  day's  Sitting,  345,  410. 

Questions  necessary  to  dispose  of 

—	 

Questions  on  the  Amendment  already  pro­

posed  from  the  Chair  put forthwith, 292,  398-9,404,412, 
434,  444. 

RESOLVED  IN  THE  A F F I R M A T I VE   : — 

—  Influence  of  Peers  at  Elections  (Sessional 

Resolution),  4  (on  Division). 

— 

-—- 

Payment  of  Members,  161  (on  Division). 

House   of  Lords  (Refusal   to  pass  Finance 

Bill),  546  (on  Division). 

.	  That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned,  9,  24, 

112. 

Business  of  the  House  (Government  Busi­

ness),  395  (on  Division). 

Business  of  the  House  (Reports   of  Money 
Committees), Exemption from Standing  Order  No.  1,  32. 

Proceedings  of  the  Committee  of  Ways  and 

Means  to be  resumed  and  proceeded  with,  &c.,  160. 

That  the  Chair  be  empowered  to  select 
Amendments,  365  (on  Division),  369,  372,  376,  379,  385, 
386. 

That  words  be  added  to  the  said  proposed 

Amendment,  499. 

9 Edw.  VII;  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

— 

That  the  word  "  now "  stand  part,  148, 

Q U E E  N  ANNE'S  BOUNTY.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

QUEEN'S  COLLEGE  (Belfast).  

QUEEN'S  COLLEGE  (Galway).  

V i d  e  ACCOUNTS. 
0 
V i d  e  ACCOUNTS. 

Q U E S T I O NS  : 

AGREED  TO   : — 

That  words  be  added  in  place  of  words  of 

original  Motion,  51,  64,  88. 

That  words  proposed  to  be  left  out  stand 

part, 41,  104. 

That  words  proposed  to  be  left  out  stand 

part of  the  said  proposed  Amendment,  as  amended,  498. 

That  a  Bill  be  committed  to  a  Committee  of 

amended,  and  agreed  to,  103. 

the  whole  House,  166. 

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[1909. 

Q U E S T I O N S—  continued. 

That  a  Clause  be  read  a second  time,  255. 

RESOLVED   IN  THE  AFFIRMATIVE—continued. 

That  a  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time,  30 
(Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of 
Debate)),  42,  68,  96,  &c. 

; 

: 

That  a  Clause  be  read  a  second  time,  110 

(on  Division). 

That  a Clause,  as amended,  stand  part,  301, 

That  the  Chairman  do  report  Progress, 
104  (on  Division),  161  (pursuant  to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate)  ). 

Question,  That  the  Question  be  now  put, 
not  decided  in  the  Affirmative,  as  it  was not  supported 
by  the  majority  prescribed  by  Standing  Order  No.  27, 
273. 

Question  put  forthwith  (abuse  of  Rules), 

That  this  be  the  Schedule  to  the  Bill,  416, 

295. 

That  the  Amendment  be  made,  402,  405, 

(abuse  of  Rules),  339. 

Question  not  proposed   by  Mr.  Speaker 

402,  &c. 

4 7 8. 

— 

444. 

—  That  this  House  doth  agree  with  the  Lords 
in  their  Amendments  to  the  Amendments  made  by  this 
House  to  the  Bill,  177. 

That  this  House  doth  disagree  with  the 

Lords  in  their  Amendments  to  the  Bill,  529. 

That  this  House  doth  agree  with  the  Com­

mittee  in  Resolutions  reported  from  Committee   of  Ways 
and  Means,  189. 

"That  this  House  doth  agree  with  the  Com­

mittee  in  a Resolution  reported  from  the  Committee   of 
the  whole  House,  on  resumption  of  adjourned  Debate, 
209. 

—	 

That  the  Question  of  agreement  or  dis­

agreement  with  the  Lords'  Amendments  be  put  with 
respect  to  the  Amendments  as  a  whole,  529  (on  Divi­
sion). 

—  Question  not  proposed  by  the  Chairman 

(abuse  of  Rules),  33,  162,  207,  279,  &c. 

9  Edw. VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

R A I L W AY   ACCIDENTS.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

R A I L W AY 

ACCOUNTS 

a nd 

STATISTICAL  RETURNS 

(Departmental  Committee).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

R A I L W AY  AGREEMENTS.   V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

R A I L W AY  and  CANAL  TRAFFIC  A C T, 

1 8 8 8. 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

R A I L W A Y,  &C.  B I L L S.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

R A I L W AY  BILLS 

(Groups).  

V i de  P R I V A TE  BILLS. 

PASSED  IN  THE  NEGATIVE   : — 

REPORTS. 

That  words  be  added  to  the  Address,  12. 
Unemployment,  12.  Fiscal  Reform,  20.  House   of 
Lords,  2 2.  Lawlessness   in  Ireland,  26.  Government 
of  India,  27.  Aliens  Act,  1905,  29. 

Agrarian  and  Political  Prosecutions  (Ire­

Intermediate  Education 
land),  35.  Naval  Policy,  85. 
Board  (Ireland)  Rules,  217. 
Irish  Universities  Act, 
1908  (Statutes),  245.  Education  (Scotland)  Act,  1908 
(Application  of  Education  (Scotland)  Fund),  273. 

—  for  leave  to  bring  in  a  Bill;  Question  put, 

pursuant  to  Standing  Order  No.  11,  73,  174. 

That  the  word  "  now "  stand  part,  120  (on 

Division),  1 3 5­

—  That  a Bill  be  committed  to  a  Committee 
of  the  whole  House,  31  (on  Division),  43,  97,  112,  210 
(on  Division). 

That  a  Bill be  recommitted  to  a  Committee 

of  the  whole  House,  255,  489. 

— 

That  the  Debate  be  now  adjourned,  48. 

—:  

— —  That  it be  an  Instruction  to  the  Committee 
on  a Bill,  103  (Army  (Annual) Bill). 
(Irish  Land  Bill), 
and  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Order  of  the  House,  292. 

That  "  Nine "  be  the  number  of  a  Select 

Committee  on  a  Bill,  103. 

That  words  be 

inserted 

in  a  proposed 

Amendment,  371. 

That  words  be inserted  in a  Standing  Order, 

338. 

That  words  proposed  to  be  left  out  stand 
part  of  Motion:—Fair  Wages  Clause,  51.  Capital 
(Foreign  Investment),  63.  Tariffs  Retaliation,  88. 
Naval  Defence  (Two-Power  Standard),  200. 

_ _ _  _ 

110,  &c. 

That  words  be  inserted,  104  (on  Division), 

That  words be  added,  109. 

RAILWAY  COMPANIES  ( Charitable  and other  Contributions, 

1908).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

R A I L W AY  COMPANIES'   POWERS  A C T,  1864. 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

R A I L W AY  CONCILIATION   BOARDS.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

R A I L W AY  CONFERENCE.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

R A I L W A YS  ABANDONMENT.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

RAILWAYS (Contracts)  ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  relating  to 
Railway  and  Canal  Companies'  Rates  and  Conditions  of 
conveyance;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  46. 

RAILWAYS  (Eight  Hours)-,  Bill  to  provide  for the  estab­
lishment  of  a  working  day  of  eight  hours  for  certain 
grades  employed  on  Railways  ;  presented,  and  ordered 
to  be  read  a second  time,  35.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
97,  114,  149,  167,  185,  231. 

RAILWAY  EMPLOYMENT 

(Safety  Appliances). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

R A I L W AY  RATES  a nd  CHARGES  PROVISIONAL   ORDER 

( Weston,  Clevedon,  and Portishead Light Railways) ;  Bill 
to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order  made  by  the  Board  of 
Trade  under  the  Railway  and  Canal  Traffic Act,  1888, 
relating  to  the  classification  of  merchandise  traffic, and 
the  Schedule  of  maximum  rates  and charges  applicable 
thereto,  of  the  Weston,  Clevedon,  and  Portishead  Light 
Railways  Company  ;  presented  ;  read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  106.  Report,  no  Standing 
Orders  applicable,  117.  Read  a  second  time,  and 
committed,  120.  Reported,  without  Amendment;  Pro­
visional  Order  confirmed;  day  appointed 
for  Third 
Reading,  145.  Bill  read  the third  time  and  passed,  148. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  258. 
(Cited  as Railway Rates  and Charges  (Weston,  Clevedon, 
and  Portishead  Light Railways) Order Confirmation  Act, 
1909),  Royal  Assent,  380. 

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R A I L W AY  RESTAUKANT  C AR  LICENCES.   Vide  W A YS 

and  MEANS. 

R A I L W AY  RETURNS.  V i d  e  ACCOUNTS. 

RAILWAY  RETURNS 

(Preliminary  Statement). 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

RAILWAY 

SERVANTS 

(Hours 

of  Labour). 

Y i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

RAMSGATE  HARBOUR.  V i d  e  ACCOUNTS. 

RATES  (London) ;  Motion,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this 
House,  there is urgent need of such reform  of  the  Govern­
ment  of  London,  &c.;  Debate  stood  adjourned   at 
Eleven;  Debate   to be  resumed  on  day  appointed,  38. 

RATS  (Destruction);  Bill  to  provide  for  the  destruction   of 
Rats;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time, 
65.  Second  Reading  deferred,  75,  88. 

RAVENGLASS  and  ESKDALE  R A I L W AY  [.Lords];  R e p o r t, 

That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the  House  of  Lords, 
10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified   to  have  been 
complied  with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords;  read  the 
first  time, and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  164.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  167.  Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  186. 
Reported,  with  Amendments,  270. 
Considered,  as 
amended,  282.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with 
Amendments,  292.   To  which  the  Lords  agree,  302. 
( Cited as Eskdale  Railway Act,  1909) Royal  Assent,  381. 

against  and  on  behalf  of  the  Bill;  power   to  send  for 
persons,  papers,  and  records;  Three  quorum,  128. 
Three  Members  nominated  on  the  Select  Committee, 
207.  Bill  reported  from  the  Select  Committee,  with 
Amendments;  Bill  recommitted   to  a  Committee  of  the 
whole  House,  242.  Committee  deferred,  254,  256, 
261,  264,  268.  Day  appointed 
for  Committee,  274. 
Committee  deferred,  281,  308,  317.  Bill  considered   in 
Committee,  and  reported,  without  Amendment,  326. 
Bill  read  the  third  time  and passed,  329.  Agreed  to  by 
the Lords, without  Amendment, 360. 
of  Surcharges  (Dublin) Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

( Cited as Remission 

R E P O R TS   O F  G R O U PS   OF  P R I V A TE  B I L LS 

A ND  R A I L W AY  B I L L S :— 

53,  68, 82.  Attendance   of  Witness,  82. 

(Group  A )  ;  Adjournment  of  Committee, 

129.  Non-attendance  of  Member,  148. 

(Group  B )  ;  Adjournment  of  Committee, 

121,  140.  Attendance  of  Witness,  148,  176. 

(Group   C )  ;  Adjournment  of  Committee, 

—	 

(Group  E )  ;  Adjournment  of  Committee,  


218,  239,  262.  


—  — 

(Group  F )  ;  Adjournment  of  Committee, 

271,  277,  289. 

290,  322. 

(Group  G )  ;  Adjournment  of  Committee, 

R A I L W AY  B I L L S .— 

79,  97,  131,  145. 

(Group  1 );  Adjournment   of  Committee, 

RAWMARSH  RECTORY  [Lords];  Report,  That  the  Bill 
should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with, 
12. 

— — 

(Group 

2)  :  Attendance   of  Witness, 

137.  Adjournment  of  Committee,  149,  167,  185,  197. 

— 

— -— 

(Group  3 )  ;  Attendance  of  Witness, 

151.  Adjournment   of  Committee,  177,  197,  218,  233. 

REASONS 

f or  d i s a g r e e i ng  
reported,  and  agreed  to,  521,  &c. 

t o  LORDS'  AMENDMENTS  ; 

REFORMATORY 
ACCOUNTS. 

a nd 

INDUSTRIAL 

SCHOOLS. 

V i de 

REGISTRATION  of  CLUBS  (Ireland);  Bill   to  amend  the 
Law  in  reference  to  the  registration  of  Clubs  in  Ireland, 
and  for  other  purposes  connected  therewith;  presented, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  19. 
Second 
Reading  deferred, 68, 81,  97.  Day appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  122,  137.  Second  Reading  deferred,  149,  167. 

REGISTRATION  of  NURSES  (Scotland);  Bill  to  establish 
and  make  regulations  to  provide  for  a register   of  Nurses 
in  Scotland  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  87.  Second  Reading  deferred,  101,  113,120.  Day 
appointed  for  Second  Reading,  137.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  149,  158,  167,  185. 

REMISSION  of  SURCHARGES  (Dublin)  ;  Bill  to  discharge 
certain  Surcharges  made  upon  the  accounts  of  the 
Municipal  Corporation  of  Dublin;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  22.  Examiners  to 
examine  Bill  with  respect  to  compliance  with  Standing 
Orders,  24.  Second  Reading  deferred,  33.  Examiners' 
Report,  pursuant  to  the  Order  of  the  House,  Standing 
Orders  applicable  thereto  not  complied  with,  referred   to 
Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  39. 
Second 
Reading  deferred, 44.  Report  from  Select  Committee 
on  Standing  Orders,  That  the  Standing  Orders- ought  to 
be  dispensed  with,  45.  Second  Reading  deferred,  75, 
81,  84,  116,  119,  125.  Read  a  second  time;  committed 
to  a  Select  Committee  of  Five  Members,  Three   to  be 
nominated  by  the  House,  Two   by  the  Committee  of 
Selection;  Petitions  to  be  referred,  Counsel  heard 

— 

(Group  4 )  ;  Adjournment  of  Committee, 

157. 

307,312,  327. 

(Group  5 )  ;  Adjournment  of  Committee, 

319,  328,  337,  345,  378. 

(Group  6 );  Adjournment   of  Committee, 

REPORTS   o f  MONEY  COMMITTEES.  V i de  BUSINESS   o f 

t he  HOUSE. 

REPRESENTATION  of  the  PEOPLE  ;  Bill   to  amend  the 
Law  relating   to  the  Representation  of  the  People  in  the 
United  Kingdom,  and  to  remove  the  electoral  disabilities 
of  Women;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  18.  Motion,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time ;  Amendment  proposed, "  six months," and  Question 
put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate)  ; 
Amendment  not  made;  Bill  read  a second  time;  Bill 
committed  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  68. 
Committee  deferred,  72,  92,  105. 

RESIDENT  MAGISTRATES  (Ireland). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

RESOLUTIONS:  ~ 

Sessional  Resolutions,  4. 

Address  of  Thanks  (King's  Speech),  29. 

Ardrossan  and  Belfast  Mail  Service  (Con­

tract),  432. 

Fair  Wages  Clause  (amended),  51. 

: — —  Greenwich  Hospital,  Statement   of  Income 

and  Expenditure,  509. 

VOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909.  	

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to  the  ONE  HUNDRED

and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME. 

[IF09. 

R E S O L U T I ON  S—continued. 

High  Court   of  Justice 

(King's  Bench 

Division)  (Joint  Committee),  273. 

Military  Manoeuvres  Act,  1897  (Order   in 

Council),  170. 

— 

Naval  Defence 

(Two-Power  Standard) 

(after  Amendment  made),  200. 

Payment  of  Members,  161  (on  Division). 

_ 

Privilege  (Intervention  of  Peers  at  Parlia­

mentary  Elections),  319. 

Scilly  Islands  Mail  Service  (Contract),  432. 

Stage Plays (Censorship)  (Joint  Committee), 

273. 

— 

Tariffs Retaliation  (after Amendment  made), 

8 8. 

198. 

That  this.  House  do  meet  at  Twelve,  106, 

That  this  House  do  now  adjourn,  20,  111, 

208,  &c.  Till  Monday  19th April  (Easter),  107. 
suntide),  205.  Till  Wednesday  next, 1st December,  544. 

(Whit­

—  That  this  House,  at  its  rising,  do  adjourn 
till  Monday  next,  363,  378.  Till  Monday  the  18th   of 
October,  482.  Till  Tuesday  the  23rd  of  November,  529. 

That  this  House  will,  upon  Monday  next, 
resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  of the  Supply 
to  be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  29.  Ways  and  Means, 29. 

That  further  consideration  of  the  proposed 

Clause,  as amended,  be  now  adjourned,  442. 

Resolution  reported  ;  read  a  second  time; 
Motion,  That  this  House  doth  agree  with  the  Committee 
in  the  Resolution;  Debate  adjourned,  190. 

Resolutions  from  the  Committee  of  Ways 

and  Means  reported,  and agreed  to,  202  (on  Division). 

—	 

Resolution  from  Select  Committee  on  Stand­
ing  Orders  with  respect to  the  Petition for Bill;  referred 
back  to  the  Committee,  139. 

RESTRAINT of  TRADES  (Shops);  Bill  to  render  null  and  

void  certain  provisions of  Shop  Assistants'  Agreements  ;  

presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  255.  

Second  Reading  deferred,  285,  288,  291,  309,  327,  335.  


REVENUE  and  EXPENDITURE 
Ireland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


(England,  Scotland,  and 

REVENUE  and  EXPENDITURE 

f or 
and  1 9 0 9 - 1 0.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

t he  YEARS 

1 9 0 8 -9 

REVENUE  (Collection  of  Taxes).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

RIGHTS  of  WAY  ;  Bill   to  amend  the  Law  relating  to 
Public  Rights  of  W a y  ;  ordered;  presented  accord­
ingly,  and  read  the  first  time,  249.  Second  Reading  

deferred,  261,  288,  326,  333.  


RIGHTS  of  WAY  (Scotland) ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  as 
to  Rights  of  W ay   in  Scotland  ;  presented,  and  ordered 
to be  read  a second  time,  145. 

RIGHTS  of  WAY  (Scotland)  (No.  2 );  Bill   to  amend  the 
Local  Government  (Scotland)  Act,  1894,  with  regard 
to  Rights  of  Way  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time,  177. 

R io  TINTO  COMPANY  [Lords]  ;  Report,  That  the  Bill  

should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report, 

Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with, 
12.  Brought  from  the  Lords;  read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  169.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  184. 
Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  194.  Reported, 
without  Amendment,  235.  Read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  without  Amendment,  241.  (Cited  as Rio Tinto 
Company,  Limited (Delivery Warrants), Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  381. 

RISCA  URBAN  DISTRICT  COUNCIL  [.Lords];  R e p o r t, 

That  the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords, 
10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been 
complied  with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords;  read  the 
first  time,  and referred  to  the Examiners,  295.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  309.  Bill  read  a second  time,  and committed,  327. 
Reported,  with  Amendments,  360. 
Considered,  as 
amended,  368.  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
with  Amendments,  378.   To  which  the  Lords  agree, 
411. 
Royal  Assent,  382. 

(Cited as Risca Urban  District Council Act,  1909) 

ROAD  TRAFFIC   ;  Bill  to  provide  for  the  regulation   of 
Road  Traffic;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read  a 
second  time,  65.  Second  Reading  deferred,  81,  89,  95, 
113,  128.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  141. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  147,  161,  165,  178,  237,  264, 
291,  309,  326. 

ROBERT  GORDON'S  TECHNICAL  COLLEGE  and  A B E R­

DEEN  ENDOWMENTS  TRUST  ORDER  CONFIRMATION  ; 
Bill  to  confirm  a Provisional  Order  under  the  Private 
Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  Act,  1899,  relating 
to  Robert  Gordon's  Technical  College  and  Aberdeen 
Endowments  Trust;  presented  ;  read  the  first  time,  and 
ordered  (under  Section  9 of  the  A c t)   to be  read  a  second 
time,  488.  Bill  read  a second  time,  and  day  appointed 
for  consideration,  509.  Bill  considered,  513.  Read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  526.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords, 
without  Amendment,  531. 
Technical  College  and  Aberdeen  Endowments Trust 
Order Confirmation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  540. 

(Cited  as  Robert  Gordon's 

ROMAN  CATHOLIC  DISABILITIES  (Removal, 

fyc.);  Bill 
to  remove  certain  Disabilities  affecting  the  Roman 
Catholic  population,  and  to  make  certain  alterations 
in  the  Accession  Declaration;  presented,  and  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time,  18.  Motion,  That  the  Bill 
be  now  read  a  second  time  ;  Amendment  proposed,  "  six 
months,"  and,  on  Division,  not  made;  Question  put, 
pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate)  ;  Bill 
read  a  second  time  ;  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  com­
mitted  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  and,  on 
Division,  agreed  t o  ;  Bill  committed,'166.  Committee 
deferred,  172. 

ROYAL  ASSENT   t o  BILLS,  5 8,  88,  1 3 5,  1 9 2,  3 8 0,  4 4 6, 

491,  539,  547. 

ROYAL  IRISH  CONSTABULARY.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

ROYAL 

IRISH 

CONSTABULARY 

(Pensions). 

V i d  e 

ACCOUNTS. 

R O Y AL  OBSERVATORY  (Edinburgh). 

V i d  e  ACCOUNTS. 

R O Y AL 

PATRIOTIC 

FUND  CORPORATION.  

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

R O Y AL  UNIVERSITY   o f  IRELAND.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

R U LE  COMMITTEE   ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Judicature  Acts, 
1873  to  1894,  with  respect  to  the  persons  in  whom  the 
power  of  making  Rules  of  Court  under  those  Acts   is 
vested;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 







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time,  118.  Second  Reading  deferred,  125,  128,  144. 
Day  appointed  for  Second Reading,  148.  Read  a  second 
time,  and  committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  154. 
B,  159.  Member  discharged,  another  appointed,  160. 
Eleven  Members  added  in  respect  of  the  Bill,  160. 
Member  added  to  the  Committee,  173.  Reported,  with 
an  Amendment;  day  appointed  for  consideration,  as 
amended,  222.  Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred, 
240,  256.  Day  appointed  for  consideration,   as  amended, 
286.  Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  298,  317, 
329,  351.  Bill  considered,  as  amended;  day  appointed 
for  Third  Reading,  357.  Third  Reading  deferred,  361, 
368,  377.  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  394. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  455. 
(Cited as  Judicature  (Rule  Committee)  Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  491. 

SALMON,  TROUT,  and  RIVER  TWEED  FISHERIES  ;  B i ll 
to  consolidate  and  amend  the  Acts  for  the  more  effectual 
preservation  and increase  of  Salmon  and  Trout,  and  for 
regulating  and  improving  the  Fisheries  in  the  River 
Tweed  and  the  rivers  and  streams  running  into  the same, 
and  also  within  the  mouth  or  entrance  of  the  said  river, 
and  for  other  purposes  relating  thereto;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  19.  Examiners  to 
examine  the  Bill  with  respect  to 
compliance  with 
Standing  Orders,  21.  Second  Keading  deferred,  24. 
Examiners  report,  pursuant  to  Order  of  the  House, 
Standing  Orders  applicable  thereto  complied  with,  30. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  33,  35, 62,  102,  160,  169,  225, 
262,  369,  395,  404. 

SAVINGS  BANKS 

a nd 

FRIENDLY 

SOCIETIES. 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

SAVINGS  BANKS  (Ireland). 

V i de  ACCOUNTS.­

9  Edw.  VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

S A I N  T  ANDREWS  W A T ER  ORDER  CONFIRMATION 

SCHOOL  ATTENDANCE (Ireland);  Bill  to  amend  the  Irish 
Education  Act,  1892  ;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be  read 
a  second  time,  472. 

[Lords']  ;  Bill, intituled  An  Act  to  confirm  a  Provisional 
Order  under  the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scot­
land)  Act,  1899,  relating   to  Saint  Andrews  Water ; 
SCILLY  ISLANDS  M A IL  SERVICE  ;   Resolution,  That  the 
brought  from the  Lords,  and  ordered  (under  Section  7 
Contract,  dated  the  27th  day  of  February  1909,  between 
of  the  A c t)   to  be  considered,  277.  Considered,  282. 
the  Postmaster  General  and  the  West  Cornwall  Steam­
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  without  Amendment, 
ship  Company,  Limited,  for  the  conveyance   of  Mails 
289.  (Cited  as Saint  Andrews  Water Order  Confirmation  between  Penzance  and  the  Scilly  Islands  (printed  in 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 
Parliamentary  Paper,  No.  136  of  1909),  be  approved, 
432.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

SAINT  LUCIA.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

SALE  of  GLEBE  L A ND  RULES.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

SEA  and  COAST  FISHERIES  FUND 

(Ireland) 

(Non­

congested  Districts).  Vide  ACCOUNTS.  


SALE  of  INTOXICATING  LIQUORS  on  SUNDAY  ;  Bill  to 
prohibit  or to  regulate  the  sale of  Intoxicating  Liquors 
on  Sunday  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read a  second 
time,  18.  Motion, That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a  second 
time;  Amendment  proposed,  "  six  months,"  and  not 
made  on  Division;  Bill  read  a  second  time, and  com­
mitted  to  a  Standing  Committee,  56.   A ,  60.  Fourteen 
Members  added  in  respect  of  the  Bill,  61.  Members 
discharged,  others  appointed,  63,  68,  70,  90,  94.  Mem­
ber  added,  63,  73.  Reported  from  Standing  Committee, 
with  Amendments  ;  day  appointed  for  consideration, 
117.  Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  121,  125. 
for  consideration,  as  amended,  read;  Motion, 
Order 
That  the  Bill   be  recommitted  to  a  Committee  of  the 
whole  House,  and  Question  negatived  on  Division;  Bill 
considered  ;  Motion,  That  a  Clause  be  read  a  second 
time,  and  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Closure,  and 
negatived  on  Division;  Question,  That  words  stand 
part,  and  Question  put, pursuant  to  Closure,  and  agreed 
to,  and  at  Five  of  the  clock  Debate  adjourned,  255-6. 
Further  adjourned,  261,  284,  308,  326,  335,  345,  360, 
394. 

SALE  of  MARGARINE  ;  Bill  to  provide  for  the  further 
prevention  of  the  fraudulent  sale  of  Margarine  ;  pre­
sented,  and ordered to be read a second  time,  50.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  66,  69,  72,  75,  78,  82,  83,  86,  89,  93, 
95,  97,  102,  105,  128,  131,  134,  136,  139,  142,  143,  147, 
154,  159,  161.  Read  a  second  time, and  committed  to  a 
Standing Committee, 165.  B,  167.  Members  discharged, 
others  appointed,  192,  214.  Fifteen  Members  added   in 
respect  of  the  Bill,  192.  Reported  from  Standing 
Committee, with  Amendments, 248.  Day  appointed  for 
consideration,  as  amended,  262. 
Consideration,  as 
amended,  deferred,  281,  285,  288,  298,  299,  351. 

SALFORD  CORPORATION  [Lords] ;  Report,  That  the  Bill 
should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with, 
12. 

SEA  FISHERIES  REGULATION  (Scotland);  Bill  to  provide 

for  the  suppression  of  illegal  Fishing  by  trawl  vessels  ;  

presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  80.  

Second  Reading  deferred,  89,  113,  120,  125,  133,  135.  

Day  appointed 
Second 
Reading  deferred,  149,  167,  179,  200,  231.  Day  ap­
for  Second  Reading,  239.  Second  Reading 
pointed 
deferred, 254,  272.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  

324.  Second  Reading  deferred,  352,  362,  377,  395. 

for  Second  Reading,  141. 

SEA  FISHERIES  (Tees)  PROVISIONAL  ORDER;  Bill   to 
confirm  an  Order  under  the  Sea  Fisheries  Acts,  1843 
to  1893, for  the  improvement,  maintenance,  and  regula­
tion  of  an  oyster,  mussel,  and  cockle  fishery  in  the 
estuary  of  the  River  Tees;  presented;  read  the  first 
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  195.  Report,  no 
Standing  Orders  applicable,  210.  Bill  read  a  second 
time,  and  committed,  213.  Reported,  with  Amend­
ments ;  Provisional  Order  confirmed,  252.  Considered, 
as  amended,  255.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  257. 
Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments;  day  ap­
pointed  for  considering them,  337.  Lords'  Amendments 
agreed  to,  341. 
visional Order  Confirmation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
381. 

(Cited as  Sea  Fisheries (Tees)  Pro­

SEAMEN'S  SAVINGS  BANKS  (Money  Orders  and  Trans­

mission  of  Wages).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

SECRETARY   o f  t he  BOARD   o f  AGRICULTURE  and  F I S H­

ERIES  [Salary] ;  Motion  for  the  House 
to  resolve 
itself  into  a  Committee  to  consider  of  authorising  the 
payment,  out  of  moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of  the 
salary  of  a second  Secretary,  in pursuance  of  any  Act   of 
the  present  Session  to  enable  a  second  Secretary  to  be 
appointed  for  the  Board  of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries; 
King's  Recommendation 
signified,  369.  Committee 
deferred,  376.  Matter  considered  in  Committee,  382, 
Resolution  reported,  and agreed  to,  393. 

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SECRETARY   o f  the  BOARD   o f  AGRICULTURE  and  FISH­

agreed  t o;  Bill  ordered;  presented  accordingly,  and 
read  the  first  time,  359.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
367,  383.  Bill  withdrawn,  398, 

SHREWSBURY  CORPORATION  [.Lords];  Report,  That  the 
in  the  House  of  Lords,  10. 

ERIES ;  Bill to enable  a second  Secretary to  be  appointed 
for  the  Board   of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries;  presented, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  37.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  41, 44,  48,  52,  55,  59,  62,  64,  66,  72, 
74.  79,  81,  85,  100,  105,  110,112,  115,  118,  123,  127, 
138,  153,  171,  190,  193,  204,  208,  212,  223,  230,  243, 
259,  280,  297,  308,  316,  323,  325,  331,  340,  343,  345, 
351.  Bill  read  a  second  time  ;  Bill  committed   to  a 
Committee  of the whole House, 363.  Committee  deferred, 
367,  376, 382.  Bill  considered   in  Committee,  and  re­
ported,  without  Amendment;  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  393.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amend-
ment, 463. 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  491. 

Bill  should  originate 
Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  com­
plied  with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords  ;  read  the  first 
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  322.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously 
into  com­
plied  with,  330.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  com­
mitted,  346.  Bill  reported,  with  Amendments,  369. 
former  Committee  ;  Standing 
Recommitted 
(Cited as Board of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries  Orders  suspended  ;  Committee  to  sit  and  proceed  forth-
with,  373.  Reported,  with  further  Amendments,  374. 
Standing  Orders  84,  214,  215,  and  239  suspended  ;  Bill 
considered,  as  amended  ;  Standing  Orders  223  and  243 
suspended;  Bill  read  the  third  time  aud  passed,  with 
Amendments,  378.  To  which  the  Lords  agree,  411. 
(Cited  as  Shrewsbury Corporation Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  382. 

inquired 

to  the 

SELECT  COMMITTEES.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

SELECTION ;  Select  Committee  nominated,  13.  Names 
of  Fifteen  Members  to  act  as  Commissioners  under  the 
Private  Legislation  Procedure  , (Scotland)  Act,  1899, 
28.  Report  of  Eight  Members  to  be  the  Chairmen's 
Panel  for  the  Four  Standing  Committees,  28.  Nomi­
nates  Members  to  serve  on  Standing  Committees  A ,  B, 
C,  37.  Nominates  Standing  Committee  A  as  the  Com­
mittee  on  which  Government  Bills  shall  not  have 
precedence,  37.  Reports  names  of  Members  appointed 
to  serve  on  Scottish  Standing  Committee,  28,  216. 
Nominates  Seven  Members  to  be  the  Panel  to  serve 
on  unopposed  Bill  Committees,  32.  Member  discharged 
from  the  Panel  of  Members  acting  as  Commissioners 
under the Private  Legislation  Procedure (Scotland)  A c t  ; 
another added, 35.  Nominates a Committee not exceeding 
Fifteen  Members,  &c.  (Local  Legislation  Committee), 
43.  Report   of  name  of  Member  discharged 
from 
Chairmen's  Panel;  another  appointed,  73. 
Instruction 
to  the  Committee  to  refer  part of  a  Provisional  Order 
Bill  to  the  Local  Legislation  Committee,  162  (Prestatyn 
Gas  Order;  Gas  Provisional  Order  Bill).  Appoint­
ment  of  Member  to  serve  on  Scottish  Standing  Com­
mittee,  327. 

SETTLED  LAND  ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Settled  Land  Acts, 
1882 to 1890 ;  presented, and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  226.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  277, 
292.  Second  Reading  deferred,  299,  309,  326.  Day 
appointed  for  Second  Reading,  360.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  377,  395. 

SEWAGE  DISPOSAL 

(Royal  Commission). 

ACCOUNTS. 

V i de 
' 

SHERIFF 

COURTS 

(Scotland)  ACT, 

1907. 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

SHIPPING  CASUALTIES  ( 1 9 0 7  - 8 ).  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

SHIPPING  RINGS  (Royal  Commission).  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

SHOP  CLUBS  ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Shop  Clubs  Act,  1902 ; 
presented,  and  ordered  to be  read  a second  time,  226. 

SHOP  HOURS  A C T,  1904.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

Si AM (No.  1,  1909).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

SINKING  FUNDS.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

SITTINGS   o f  t he  HQUSE.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

SLIGO  and  ARIGNA  RAILWAY;  Bill  read  the  first  time, 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  15.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  not  complied  with, 
referred  to  the  Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders, 
65.  Report,  Standing  Orders  ought   to  be  dispensed 
with  ;  parties  to  proceed  with  their  Bill,  80.  Report 
read ;  Bill  to  be  read  a second  time,  80.  Read  a  second 
time,  and  committed,  86.  Reported,  with  Amendments, 
180.  Considered,  as  amended,  191.  Read  the  third 
time  and  passed,  205. 

SLIGO  and  BUNDORAN  RAILWAY  ;  Bill  read  the 

first 
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  15.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  not  com­
plied  with, referred  to  the  Select  Committee  on  Standing 
Orders,  69.  Report,  Standing  Orders  ought   to  be 
dispensed  with;  parties  to  proceed  with  their  Bill,  126. 
Report 
from  Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders 
read;  Bill   to  be  read  a  second  time,  126.  Bill  read 
a  second  time,  and  committed,  142.  Reported,  with 
Amendments;  certain  Clauses   of  the  Bill  and  part  of 
the  Preamble  struck  out;  Title  amended,  218.  Con­
sidered,  as  amended,  232.  King's  Consent  signified; 
Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  241.  Agreed   to 
by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  342.  Order  for  con­
sideration  of  Lords'  Amendments  read  ;  Amendment 
proposed,  "  three  months,"  and  made;  consideration   of 
Lords'  Amendments  put  off for  three  months,  490. 

SLIGO  (North  Sligo Division)  WRIT.  Vide  ELECTIONS. 

SMALL  DWELLING-HOUSES   i n  BURGHS  LETTING  and 
RATING  (Scotland)  B I L L.  V i de  HOUSE  LETTING  a nd 
RATING  (Scotland)  BILL. 

SHOPS ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  relating  to  Shops; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  19. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  83,  92,  113.  Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  140.  Order  for  Second  Reading 
on  future  dav  discharged  ;  another  day  appointed,  209, 
236. 

SMALL  HOLDINGS ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Small  Holdings 
and  Allotments  Act,  1908;  presented,  and  ordered  to 
be  read  a  second  time,  145.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
154,  158,  161.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  167. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  172,  176,  183.  Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  205. 

SHOPS  (No.  2)  ;  Motion  for  leave   to  bring  in  a  Bill  to 
consolidate,  amend,  and  extend  the  Shops  Regulation 
Acts,  1892  to  1904;  Mr.  Speaker  puts  the  Question, 
pursuant  to  Standing  Order  No.  11  ;  and  Question 

SMALL  HOLDINGS  (No.  2);  Bill  to  amend  the  Small 
•Holdings  and  Allotments  Act,  1908;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  188.  Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  235. 

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(A m e n d m e n t ); 
Bill  to  amend  the  Small  Holdings  and  Allotments  Act, 
1907  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a second  time, 
539. 

SMALL  HOLDINGS  and  ALLOTMENTS  (Scotland)  [Lords] 

; 
Bill,  intituled  An  Act  to  amend  tbe  Law  with  respect 
to  Small  Holdings  and  Allotments  in  Scotland  ;  brought 
from  the  Lords,  331. 

SOANE'S  MUSEUM.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

SOCIAL  CONDITION   o f 

the  PRIVATE  SOLDIER.  V i de 
SUPPLY, Amendment  to  Question,  That  Mr.  Speaker   do 
leave  the  Chair. 

SOMERSET  and  DISTRICT  ELECTRIC  POWER 

[L o r d s ]; 

Report,  That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the  House   cf 
Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  not   to 
have been  complied  with,  13.  Examiners'  report,  Stand­
ing  Orders  not  complied  with,  referred   to  the  Select 
Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  13. 

SOUTH  AFRICA  [Lords];  Bill, 

intituled  An  Act   to 
constitute  the  Union  of  South  Africa  ;  brought  from 
the  Lords;  read  the  first  time,  359.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  361,  367.  Read  a second  time;  Bill  committed 
to  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  382.  Proceedings 
not  to  be  interrupted  at  Eleven  of  the  clock,  392.  Bill 
considered  in  Committee ;  Question  put,  pursuant  to 
Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate);  Bill  reported, 
without  Amendment;  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 
without  Amendment,  392. 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  446. 

(Cited  as  South  Africa  Act, 

SOUTH  AFRICA.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

SOUTH  EASTERN  and  LONDON,  CHATHAM,  and  DOVER 
RAILWAYS  [Lords]  ;  Report,  That  the  Bill  should 
originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with,  12. 
Brought  from  the  Lords,  163.  Read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  164.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  167. 
Second 
Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  186. 
Reading  deferred,  191,  211,  217,  236,  241,  251,  257,  269,. 
276.  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a second  time  ; 
Amendment  proposed,  "  three  months,"  and, on  Division, 
not  made  ;  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  283. 
Message  to  the  Lords  requesting  the  attendance   of  a 
Peer  as a Witness  before  the  Committee  on  Group  5  of 
Railway  Bills,  299.  Leave  given,  307.  Bill  reported, 
with  Amendments,  337.  Considered,  as  amended,  346. 
Standing  Order  243  suspended;  Bill  read  the  third  time 
and passed, with Amendments, 352.   To  which  the  Lords 
(Cited as South  Eastern and London,  Chat­
agree,  361. 
ham,  and Dover Railways  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

SOUTH  LINCOLNSHIRE  W A T ER 

[Lords]; 

R e p o r t,  T h at 
the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied 
with,  12.  Bill  brought  from  the  Lords,  90.  Read  the 
first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  91.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  Complied 
with,  114.  Bill  read  a second time,  and  committed,  121. 
Reported,  with  Amendments,  163.  Considered,  as 
amended,  176.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with 
Amendments,  186.   To  which  the  Lords  agree,  192. 
(Cited  as  South Lincolnshire  Water Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  192. 

SOUTHPORT  and  LYTHAM  TRAMROAD 

(Abandonment); 
[Lords] ;  Report,  That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the 
House  of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified 
to  have  been  complied  with,  12.  Brought  from  the 
Lords,  196.  Read  the  first  time,  and  referred   to  the 
Examiners,  197.  Report,  Standing  Orders not  previously 
inquired  into  complied  with,  210.  Bill  read  a  second 
time,  and  committed,  221.  Reported,  with  Amend­
ments,  253.  Considered,  as  amended,  265.  Read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments,  275.   To 
(Cited  as  Southport  and 
which  the  Lords  agree,  286. 
Lytham  Tramroad  (Abandonment)  Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  381. 

SOUTH  STAFFORDSHIRE  W A T ER  [Lords] 

;  R e p o r t,  T h at 
the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied 
with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords;  read  the  first  time, 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  169.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  184. 
Bill  read  a second  time,  and  committed,  194.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  270.  Considered,  as  amended,  285. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments, 
(Cited  as South 
294.   To  which  the  Lords  agree,  303. 
Staffordshire  Waterworks  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

SOUTHWARK 
ELECTIONS. 

(Bermondsey  Division)  WRIT. 

Vide 

SOUTHWARK  BOROUGH  (Bermondsey  Division). 
.  '  . 

ACCOUNTS. 

.. 

V i de 

SOUTH  WESTERN 

and 

ISLE   of  WIGHT  JUNCTION 
RAILWAY  [Lords]  ;  Report,  That 
the  Bill  should 
originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing 
Orders certified to have been complied with, 12.  Brought 
from  the  Lords,  163.  Read  the  first  time,  and  referred 
to  the  Examiners,  164.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not 
previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  167.  Bill  read 
a  second  time,  and  committed,  186.  Reported,  with 
Amendments,  218.  Bil)  considered,  as  amended,  330. 
King's  Consent  signified;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  with  Amendments,  341.   To  which  the  Lords 
(Cited as South Western and  Isle of  Wight 
agree,  361. 
Junction  Railway  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

SOUTHEND-ON-SEA  CORPORATION 

[J^mls]; 

SPEAKER  : 

R e p o r t, 
That  the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords, 
.10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been 
complied  with, 12.  Brought from  the Lords,  173.  Read 
the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  174. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
complied  with,  186.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and 
committed,  206.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  252. 
Considered, as amended,  294.  King's  Consent  signified; 
Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments, 
(Cited  as 
306.  To  which  the  Lords  agree,  319. 
Southend-on-Sea  Corporation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  380, 446, 491.   A t  the  close  of  the  Session,  547. 
381. 

goes  up  to  the  House  of  Peers  to  attend 
His  Majesty:—At  the  opening   of  the  Session,  3.  On 
other  occasions  to  attend  the  Lords  Commissioners; 
Royal  Assent   to  Bills,  58,  88,  135,  192,  380,  446,  491, 
547.  Reports  Royal  Assent   to  Bills,  58,  88,  135,  192, 

reports  His  Majesty's  Speech  at  the opening 
of  the  Session,  8.  Reads  His  Majesty's  Speech   to  the 
House,  8. 

5 

SOUTHERN  NIGERIA.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

acquaints  the  House  that  he  had  issued 

a  Warrant  for  a new  Writ  during  the  Recess,   3. 

VOL.  164. 

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VOLUME. 

672 

SPEAKER—continued. 

to  issue  Warrants  for  new  Writs.  3,  17,  18,  

24,  67,  69,  106,  109,  114,  159  (on  Division),  204,  258,  

274, 283, 292,  329, 347,  404, 488,  494.  


to  peruse  the  Votes  and license  the  printing 

thereof,  4. 

to  license  the  printing  of  the  Journal,  4. 

• 

— 

lays  on  the  Table  Examiners'  Reports,  13,  


2 0,  & c.  V i de  EXAMINERS.  


—	 

lays  on  the  Table  Parliamentary  Papers, 
List of  Bills,  Reports,  Estimates,  Accounts,  and  Papers, 
547. 

— 

his nomination  of  temporary  Chairmen,  30. 

unavoidably  absent,  39,  42, 43, 45,  49,  388,  


398, 40],  404,  434, 437,  472.  


requests  the  Chairman  of  Ways  and  Means  


to take  the  Chair  as Deputy  Speaker,  407,  474.  


—	 

distributes  Bills  to  Standing  Committees, 

33,  96,  102,  &c.  


directs  Member  to  discontinue  his  speech 

(irrelevance),  487. 

calls  on  Members  who  support  Motion  for 
Adjournment  to  rise  in  their  places;  less  than  Forty 
having  risen,  House  proceeds  to  the  Orders  of  the  day, 
489. 

at  Ten  of  the  clock  puts  the  Question 
necessary  to dispose of  the  Report  of  the  Resolution  then  

under  consideration,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  No.  15,  

355. 

•	 

puts  the  Questions  forthwith  on  outstanding  

Resolutions,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  No.  15,  355.  

Vide  CLOSURE.  


at  Five  of  the  clock  puts  forthwith  the 
Question  on  the  Amendment  already  proposed  from  the 
Chair,  and  proceeds  successively  to  put  forthwith  the 
Questions  on  any  Amendments  moved  by  the  Govern­
ment of  which  notice  had  been  given,  and  the  Question 
for  the  Third  Reading   of  the  Bill,  434. 

: —  at half-past  Ten   of  the  clock  puts  forthwith 
the  Question  on  the  Amendment  already  proposed  from 
the  Chair  ;  proceeds  successively  to  put  forthwith  the 
Question  on  the  Clause  moved  by  the  Government,  and 
on  any  Amendments  moved  by  the  Government  of 
which  notice  had  been  given,  444. 

SPEAKER,  MR.  D E P U T Y: 

&c. 


—: 

proceeds  to  interrupt  the  Business,  64,  253,  


proceeds  to  interrupt  the  Business,  after  


Eleven,  253.  


takes  the  Chair,  Mr.  Speaker  being  un­

avoidably  absent,  39, 42,  43,  45,  49, 388,  401, 404,  434,  

437,  472,  474.  


lays  upon  the  Table  Examiners'  Reports,  


declines  to  propose  the  Question  (abuse  of 

39,  43. 


Rules),  339. 

withholds  his  assent  to  Closure,  and  gives 

a  Reason,  272. 

; 

declares  that  the  Question  (Closure) was  not  

decided  in  the  Affirmative,  as  it  was  not  supported  by  

the  majority  prescribed  by  Standing  Order  No.  27, 
273. 

puts  the  Question,  pursuant  to  Standing 
Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  22, 29,  30,  &c.  Withholds 
his  assent  to  Closure,  30,  42,  64,  78 
(twice),  116 
(three  times),  143,  149.  And  gives  a Reason,  272.  


puts  Questions,  pursuant   to  Order  of  the 

House,  292,  434,  444.  


—	 

puts  the  Question,  pursuant  to  Standing 
Order  No.  11,  on  introduction  of  a  Bill,  32,  73  (Question  

negatived),  77,  189,  174  (Question  negatived),  180, 
266,  359.  


to  adjourn 

the  House,  without  Question 

put, if  Progress  is reported  after  Five  of the  clock,  378. 

• 

•	 

to  issue  Warrants  for  new  Writs,  404. 

declines  to  put  the  Question,  pursuant  to 
Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  42.  And  gives  a 
Reason,  438. 

puts  the  Question,  pursuant  to  Standing 

Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  41. 

= 

adjourns the House, 39,42,45,  &c.  Without 
Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  No.  3,  43.  

Pursuant  to  Order of  the  House, 379,  401, 403,  &c.  


: 

resumes  the  Chair  after  Committee  Pro­

ceedings,  41, 44, 46,  &c.  


leaves  the  Chair  on  going  into  Committee 

of  Supply,  41. 

— 

5 2. 

—  distributes  Bills  to  Standing  Committees, 

SPEECH,  HIS  MAJESTY'S ;  delivered  to  both  Houses   of 
Parliament  at  the  opening  of  the  Session,  3.   A t  the 
close  of  the  Session,  547.  Vide  ADDRESSES. 

adjourns  the  House,  pursuant  to  Standing  


SPEECHES.  V i de  ADDRESSES.  K I N G. 

Order  No.  3,  31,  56,  69,  &c.  


adjourns  the  House,  Forty  Members  not  


being  present,  165, 237,  493.  


—	 

adjourns  the  House,  pursuant  to  Order  of  


the  House,  398, 409, 411,  &c.  


acquaints  the  House  that  he had  received 
a  letter  relating  to  the  Imprisonment  of  a  Member 
(Mr.  James  Farrell),   3. 

informs  the  House  that  he  had  received 
a letter  relating to  the  Bankruptcy  of  a  Member (Mr.   N. 
J.	  Murphy),  307. 

SPECIAL  ENTRY,  538. 

SPECIAL  L A ND  TENURES   ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Law  of  

customary  freeholds  and  of  freeholds  subject  to  peculiar  

customs  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  

time,  271.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  300.  

Second  Reading  deferred,  302, 326.  Day  appointed  for  

Second  Reading,  360.  Second  Reading  deferred,  377,  

395. 

SPECIAL  REPORTS ;  from  Select  Committees,  49,  374,  


392  (Local  Legislation  Committee),.401.  


SPIRITS.  Vide  W A YS   and  MEANS. 

—	 

calls  the  attention  ot  the  House  to  the 

SPRING  ASSIZES  A C T,  1 8 7 9,  a nd  W I N T ER  ASSIZES  ACT,. 

continued  irrelevance  on  the part of  a  Member,  487. 

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—	 

dient  that  a  Select  Committee  of 
this  House  be 
appointed  to  join  with  a  Committee  of  the  Lords  to 
inquire  into  the  Censorship  of  Stage  Plays  as  constituted 
by  the  Theatres  Act,  1853,  and  into  the  operation   of 
the  Acts  of  Parliament  relating  to  the  licensing  and 
regulation  of  theatres  and  places of  public  entertainment, 
and  to  report  any  alterations  of  the  Law   or  practice 
which  may  appear  desirable  ;  Message  to  acquaint  the 
Lords  therewith,  273.  Message  from  the  Lords  con­
curring  with  the  Resolution,  289.  Lords'  Message 
concurring  with  the  Commons 
their  Resolution 
considered;  Select  Committee  of  Five  Members  ap­
pointed  to  join  with  a  Committee  to  be  appointed  by 
the Lords;  Message  to  the Lords  to  acquaint  them there­
with  ;  Five  Members  nominated;  power   to  send  for 
persons,  papers,  and  records  ;  Three  to  be  the  quorum, 
309.  Message  from  the  Lords  appointing  a  Committee 
of  Five  Members   to  join  with  a  Committee   of  the 
Commons  to  inquire,  &c.,  and  proposing  place,  and  time 
of  meeting;  so  much  of  Lords'  Message  as  relates  to 
place  and  time  of  meeting  considered;  Order,  That 
the  Committee  appointed  by  this  House  do  meet  the 
Lords'  Committee  as proposed  by  the  Lords;  Message 
to  acquaint  them  therewith,  313.  Report,  524. 

in 

STAMPS.  Vide  W A YS   and  MEANS. 

STANDING  COMMITTEES. 

V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

COM­

MITTEES. 

STANDING  ORDERS: 
—	 

Committee to  consist  of 

Thirteen  Members  ;  nominated,  13. 

— 

Reports  from  them, 34, 


45,  &c.  


—	 

to 
them  r—That the Standing Orders have not been complied 

for  Bills,  13,  36. 
with, 
Lords'  Bills,  13,  36.  
additional  provision,  119,  &c.  


In  the  case  of  Petitions  for  


in  the  case  of  Petitions 

referred 

Reports 

Reports  : —  That 

the 
Standing  Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed  with,  in  the  case  

of  Bills,  45,  80,  126,  &c.  
In  the  case  of  Petitions  for  

In  the  case  of  Petitions  against 
Bills,  34,  79,  126.  
In  the  case  of  Petition  for  dispensing  

the  Bill,  45.  
with  Standing  Order  128,  34,  45,  156. 
In  the  case  of  

Petitions  for  additional  provision,  126,  173, 156.  Lords' 
Bill,  299.  


—	 

Reports  read,  and  Bills  


to  be  read  a second  time,  80,  126,  225,  


So  much  of  Standing 
Order  91  as  fixes  Five  as  the  quorum  of  the  Select 
Committee  on  Standing  Orders  suspended ;  Three  to  be 
the  quorum  of  the  Committee  for  the  remainder   of  the 
Session,  75. 

Resolution of the  Select 
Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  with  respect  to  a 
Petition  for  Bill,  referred  back   to  the  said  Committee, 
&c.,  139. 

Mr.  Speaker  or  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker  
Committees  under  Standing  Order  No.  47,  33,  52,  Ac.  


Biilq  distributed  by. 
to  Standing 

to  Standing  Order  No.  11,  32,  73,  77,  109.  


——  Questions put, pursuant 


— — —  — 

— Questions  necessary  to  

dispose  of  the  Vote  put,  pursuant   to  Standing  Order  

No.  15  (by  the  Chairman)  (Vote   on  Account),  55,  347  

(at  the  close  of  Supply).  


—	 

Questions  on  outstand­
ing  Votes  put,  pursuant   to  Standing  Order  No.  15  (by 
the  Chairman),  347. 

Question  necessary  to 
dispose  of  the  Report   of  a  Resolution  put, pursuant  to  

Standing  Order  No.  15,  355.  


— 

— 

—	 

Question  on  the  out­

standing  Resolutions  of  Supply  reported  put,  pursuant  

to  Standing  Order  No.  15,  355. 


Motions  for  Adjournment,  37. 

Standing Order No.  10 ; 

— 

—  So  much  of  Standing 
Order  73,  relating 
to  Provisional  Order  Bills,  as 
provides  that  notice  of  the  day  on  which  Provisional 
Order  Bills  will  be  examined,  &c.,  suspended,  330. 

Standing  Order  193a 
suspended;  Provisional  Order  Bill  read  the  first  time,  

209,  265,  341.  


Standing  Orders  39, 
128,  204,  and  230  suspended,  and  time  for  depositing  

Petitions  against  Private  Bills, &c.  to be  extended  to  the  

first  day  on which  the  House  shall  sit  after  the  Recess  

(Easter),  102. 

(Whitsuntide),  194.  


and  235  suspended  ;  Bill  read  a  second  time,  159.  


Standing  Orders  204 

and  236  suspended;  Committee  on  the  Bill  to  sit  and*,  

proceed  forthwith,  159.   T o  sit  and  proceed  on  day  

named,  363.  


Standing  Orders  211 

Standing  Orders  236 
and  237  suspended;  Committee  to  sit  and  proceed 
forthwith,  373.  


Standing  Order  208a 
suspended,  and  Instruction  to  Committee  of  Selection, 
to  refer  part of  a  Provisional  Order  Bill   to  the  Local 
Legislation  Committee,  162. 

Standing  Order  128 
suspended,  and  time  for  depositing  Petitions  against 
certain  Bills  extended,  204.  


Standing  Orders  223 
and  243  suspended  ;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  

294,  299,  330,  &c.  


— 

Standing  Orders  84, 
214, 215, and 239  suspended  ;  Bill  considered, as amended 

in  the  Committee,  and  on recommittal,  378.  


Standing  Orders  220 
and  246,  relating  to  Private  Bills  (Lords'  Amendments),  

suspended  for  the  remainder   of  the  Session,  346.  


Report 

from  Select 

(Private  Business)   :—  


Committee  on  Standing  Orders  on  recommitted  Reso­
lution ;  Standing  Orders to  be  dispensed  with,  156. 

—-— 

reported 
from  the  Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders  (parties 
to  proceed  with  their  Bill)  ;  Resolution  read;  Bill   to  be 
read  a second  time,  225. 

Resolution 

Amended,  362.   As  amended, to be  printed, 404­

(Public  Business)  : 

Amended. 

Standing Order  No.  81  

(Deputy  Speaker  and  Deputy  Chairman)  read,  and  

amended, by  leaving  out  words  and  inserting  others, 337. 


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674 

S T A N D I NG  ORDERS—continued. 

STRIKES  and  LOCK-OUTS.  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

• '' 

— 

— 

Standing  Order  No.  26 
(Closure  of  Debate)  ;  Amendment  proposed  to  the 
Standing  Order, in  1. 25,  to  insert  words  ;  Amendments 
proposed  to  the  proposed  Amendment  withdrawn  and 
negatived;  proposed  Amendment  amended   by  inserting 
Words,  by 
leaving  out  words;  further  amended   by 
leaving  out  words  and  inserting  others,  and  by  adding 
words ;  amended  words  added  to  the  Standing  Order  on 
Division,  338-40.  Standing  Order  further  amended   by 
inserting  words,  340. 

— ; — 

Standing  Order  No.  27 
(Majority  for  Closure)  read,  and  amended  by  inserting 
words,  340.  Vide  HOUSE. 

Orders,  as amended,  be  printed,  404. 

That 

the  Standing 

STATISTICAL 
ACCOUNTS. 

ABSTRACT  

(British  Empire). 

Vide 

STATISTICAL  ABSTRACT 

(United  Kingdom). 

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

STOCK  CONVERSION  a nd  INVESTMENT  TRUST  (N o r th 

Eastern  Railway  Consols) [ Lords] ;  Report,  That  the 
Bill  should originate  in  the House  of  Lords,  10.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with, 
12.  Brought  from  the  Lords;  read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  141.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  149. 
Bill  read  a second  time,  and  committed,  168.  Reported, 
without.  Amendment,  191.  Considered,  206.  Read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  without  Amendment,  210. 
(Cited 
as  Stock  Conversion and  Investment  Trust,  Limited 
(North  Eastern  Railway  Consols), Act,  1909)  Royal 
Assent,  381. 

SUEZ  CANAL  (  Commercial,  No.  2,  1909).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

SUGAR  CONVENTION  (Commercial,  No.  1,  1909).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

SUMMARY  JURISDICTION  (Scotland)  A C T,  1 9 0 8,  A M E N D­

[Lords] ;  Bill, 

MENT 
intituled   An  A ct   to  remove 
doubts  as to  the  manner  in  which  accused  persons  may 
be  detained  in  custody,  pending  trial,  under  the  pro­
visions  of  the  Summary  Jurisdiction  (Scotland)  Act, 
1908;  brought  from  the  Lords,  414.  Read  the  first 
time,  418.  Second  Reading  deferred,  432,  436,  442, 
445,  451,  462,  474,  475,  479,  482,  485,  498,  502.  Read 
a  second  time;  Bill  committed   to  a  Committee  of  the 
whole  House,  521.  Bill  considered  in  Committee,  and 
reported,  without  Amendment;  read  the  third  time  and 
(Cited  as  Summary
passed,  without  Amendment,  525. 
Jurisdiction  (Scotland)  Act,  1908,  Amendment  Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  539. 

SUNDAY  CLOSING  (Shops) ;  Bill  to  provide  for  the 
closing  of  Shops  and  the  prohibition  of  Street  Trading 
on  Sunday ;  ordered;  presented  accordingly,  and  read 
the first time,  91.  Second Reading  deferred,  112,  Day 
appointed for Second Reading,  160,  334. 

SUNDAY  CLOSING  (W a l e s)  A CT  ( 1 8 8 1)  AMENDMENT  ; 

Bill  to  amend  the Sunday  Closing (Wales)  Act, 1881  and 
to  make  further  provision  for  the  sale   of  Intoxicating 
Liquors  in  Wales  and  Monmouthshire;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  19.  Motion,  That  the 
Bill  be  now  read  a second  time, and  at  Five  of  the  clock, 
Debate  stood  adjourned,  82.  Further  adjourned,  120, 
185. 

SUPERANNUATION  A C T S.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

SUPERANNUATION  B I L L.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

STOLEN  PRECIOUS  M E T A LS   ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Law 
with  regard  to  stolen  precious  Metals;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  19.  Order  for  Second 
Reading  on  future  day  discharged;  another  day  ap­
pointed,  76.  Second  Reading  deferred,  149. 

STOURBRIDGE  and  DISTRICT  W  A T ER  BOARD   fi^onfo]  ; 
Report, That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the  House  of 
Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have 
been  complied  with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords,  196. 
Read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  197. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
complied  with,  210.  Bill  read  a second  time,  and  com­
mitted,  221.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  289.  Bill 
considered,  as  amended;  Standing  Orders  223  and  243 
suspended;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with 
Amendments,  360.   To  which  the  Lords  agree,  361. 
(Cited  as  Stourbridge  and  District  Water  Board  Act, 
1909)  Royal  Assent,  382. 

STRAITS  SETTLEMENTS.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

STREET  ACCIDENTS  caused  by  VEHICLES  (Scotland). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

STREET  TRADERS   ;  Bill  to  make  provision  for  the  licens­

ing  and registration  of  Street  Traders;  presented,  and  

ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  174.  


SUPERANNUATION  ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Superannuation 
Acts,  1834  to  1892 ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time,  177.  Second  Reading  deferred,  190, 
193,  204,  208,  212,  223,  230,  233,  243,  246,  250, 
259,  264,  268,  272.  Read  a  second  time,  and  com­
mitted  to  a  Standing Committee, 275.  A  282.  Members 
discharged,  others  appointed;  Fifteen  Members  added 
in  respect  of  the  Bill,  290.  Reported,  with  Amend­
ments,  342.  Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  350, 
359.  Bill  considered,  as  amended,  363.  Third  Reading 
deferred,  367,  376,  382.  Bill  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  394.  Agreed  to by  the  Lords,  without  Amend­
ment,  440. 
Assent,  446. 

(Cited  as Superannuation  Act,  1909)  Royal 

SUPERANNUATION  [Allowances  and  Gratuities];  Motion 
for  the  House   to  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to 
consider  of  authorising  the  payment,  out  of  moneys 
provided  by  Parliament,  of  additional  allowances  and 
gratuities  to  Civil  Servants  in  certain  cases  on  their 
retirement,  and  of  allowances  and  gratuities  to  their 
legal  personal  representatives  in  case  of  death,  in  pur­
suance of  any  Act   of  the  present  Session to  amend  the 
Superannuation  Acts,  1834  to  1892;  King's  Recom­
mendation  signified,  277.  Committee deferred,  284, 287, 
291,  293,  298,  208.  Matter  considered  in  Committee, 
311.  Report  deferred,  316,  323.  Resolution  reported, 
and  agreed  to,  326. 

SUPPLY  : 

'  • - —  Resolution,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow, resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to consider  of the  Supply 

to be granted  to His  Majesty  ;  Estimates referred,  29. 

— 

Committee  deferred,  74,  79,  81,_&c. 

—	 

-  Considered  in  Committee,  33,  35,  38,  41,44,  46,  50,  54,  58,  63,  65,  70,  118,  127,  146,  164,  207,  222, 

236,  253,  290,  307, 323,  324,  331,  334,  347. 

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(Navy),  63. 

Considered  in  Committee,  and  Committee  immediately  report  Progress;  no  Vote  proposed  (Army),  41. 
(Civil  Service  Estimates),  118. 

Considered  in  Committee,  and  Committee  report  Progress  at  Eleven  :—Unemployed  Workmen  Act, 
1905, Contributions  in Aid  (Supplementary  Estimate),  33.  Again  considered   in  Committee ;  proceeding  postponed 
at  a quarter-past  Eight,  35.  Resumed,  and  it  being  after  Eleven  Chairman  leaves  the  Chair,  36.  Land  Forces 
(Chairman  leaves  the  Chair  at  Eleven),  44.  Navy  Estimates  (Officers,  Seamen,  and  Boys)  (Chairman  leaves  the 
Chair  at  Eleven),  65.  Considered  in  Committee;  proceeding  postponed  at  8.15  (Board   of  Agriculture  and 
Fisheries)  ;  proceeding  resumed,  and  at  Eleven  of  the  clock  Chairman  leaves  the  Chair,  146.  Old  A ge  Pensions; 
proceeding  postponed  at  8.15 ;  resumed,  and  Motion  withdrawn,  164.  Local  Government  Board  for  Scotland  ; 
considered  in  Committee  ;  M o t i on   for  reduction negatived,  and  at  Eleven   of  the  clock  Chairman  leaves the  Chair, 
290.  Board  of  Education  ;  considered  in  Committee;  Motion  for  reduction,  and  proceeding  postponed  at  8 . 1 5; 
resumed,  and  at  Eleven  of  the  clock  Chairman  leaves  the  Chair,  307. 

Shipbuilding,  Repairs,  Maintenance,  &c.,  and  Establishments  at  Home  and  Abroad  ;  considered   in 
Committee;  Motion  for  reduction  negatived;  Member  moves  Progress;  Chairman  declines   to  propose  Question 
(abuse of  Rules),  and  at Eleven  Chairman  leaves  the  Chair,  331. 

(Army  Estimates).—Motion,  That  Mr.  Deputy  Speaker   do  now  leave  the  Chair;  Amendment 
proposed  (Social Condition  of  the  Private  Soldier),  not  made;  Main  Question  proposed, and  Question  put, pursuant   to 
Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate), and  agreed  to ;  Supply  considered  in  Committee  (Army  Estimates)  ;   no  Vote 
proposed,  41. 

(Navy  Estimates).—Motion,  That  Mr.  Speaker   do  now  leave  the  Chair,  and  proceeding  postponed  at 
8.15,  61.  Resumed,  and it being  after  Eleven,  and  objection  taken   to further  proceeding, Debate  stood  adjourned,  62. 
Resumed,  and  Question  put,  pursuant to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate),  and  agreed  to  ;  House  resolved  itself 
into  Committee,  and  Progress  immediately  reported;   no  Vote  proposed,  63. 

(Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments  Estimates).—Motion,  That  Mr.  Speaker   do  now  leave  the 
Chair;  Amendment  proposed 
(Arterial  Drainage,  Ireland),  and,   on  Division,  not  made;  Main  Question  put, 
and  agreed  to ;  Civil  Service  Estimates  considered  in  Committee,  and  Progress  immediately  reported  ;  no  Vote 
proposed,  118. 

If  under  discussion  at Eleven  of  the  clock,  not   to  be  interrupted  under  Standing  Order  (Sittings   of  the 

House),  70,  236. 

Proceedings  in  Committee  on  Navy  and  Army  Expenditure   to  have  precedence  of  the  Committee  of 

Supply,  342. 

That  the  other  Government  Business  have  precedence this  day  of  the  Business  of  Supply,  80,  95. 

That  the  Committee   of  Ways  and  Means have  precedence  this day  of  the  Business of  Supply,  180. 

Proceedings  on  the  Finance  Bill,  219. 

That  the  Business  of  Supply  be resumed  and  proceeded  with,  though  opposed,  after  the  interruption 

of  Business,  &c.,  38,  46,  50,  73  (on  Division),  271. 

Order,  That,  notwithstanding  anything  in  Standing  Order  No.  15,  Business  other  than  Business   of 

Supply  may  be  taken  before  Eleven,  347. 

Proceedings  postponed  on  going  into  Committee  of  Supply,  61.  Resumed,  62. 

—  Proceedings  postponed  at  a quarter-past  Eight  in  Committee  of  Supply,  35,  38,  55,  127,  146,  164,  236, 
253,  307,  334.  Resumed,  36,  38,  55,  127,  146,  164,  236,  253,  307,  335.   On  Report  of  Resolutions  from  Committee 
of: Supply,  47,  51.  Resumed,  48,  52. 

Day  appointed  for  consideration   of  postponed  Resolution,  48.  Resolution  read  a  second  time;  day 

appointed  for further  consideration   of  Resolution,  74.  Further  consideration  of  Resolution  deferred,  79,  81. 

Postponed  Resolution  again  read, and  considered,  50.  Proceeding  postponed  at  8.15,  51.  Resumed,  and 

Resolution  agreed  to,  52. 

Resolution  further  considered,  and agreed  to,  271. 

Resolutions  reported,  and  agreed  to,  74. 

Motion,  That  a reduced  sum be  granted,  negatived  on  Division,  207. 

Motions  withdrawn,  164. 

Chairman  puts  the  Questions  necessary  to dispose of  the  Vote, pursuant to Standing Order No.  15, 55,347. 

_——  British  Museum  ;  Petition  for  Aid  referred,  30. 

,  ' •  Allotted  Days  :—First  (8th  March),  44.  Second  (11th  March),  54.  Third  (18th  March),  65.  Fourth 

Sixth  (6th  May),  146.  Seventh  (13th  May),  164.  Eighth 
(22nd  March),  70.  Fifth  (27th  April),  127. 
(17th  June),  236.  Eleventh  (24th  June),  253.  Twelfth 
(3rd  June),  207.  Ninth  (14th  June),  222.  Tenth 
Fifteenth  (21st  July),  323.° 
(1st  July),  271.  Thirteenth  (8th  July),  290.  Fourteenth 
S i x t e e n th  (22nd July),  324.  Seventeenth (26th July), 331.  Eighteenth  (27th  July),  334.  Nineteenth  (2nd  August), 
347.  Twentieth  (3rd  August),  353. 

(15th  July),  307. 

Supply  closed,  349.  Question  put,  pursuant   to  Standing  Order  No.  15,  347.  Questions  put  severally 
on the  outstanding Votes by the  Chairman, 347.   By  Mr. Speaker, on  Report, pursuant  to  Standing  Order  No.  15, 355. 

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Subject. 

A g r e ed   to 
in 
Committee. 

Sum granted. 

Resolutions  Reported, 
and  A g r e ed  to. 

S IT PPL  Y — continued. 

Page. 

s.  d. 

Page. 

A R M Y. 

9  March: 

Land  Forces,  not  exceeding  183,200,  all  ranks,  maintained 
for  the  Service  of  the  United  Kingdom   of  Great  Britain  and 
Ireland  at  Home  and  Abroad,  excluding  His  Majesty's  Indian 
Possession?,  during  the year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March 
1910 

46 

(Alter  Motion 
for  reduction 
negatived  on 
Division.) 

Pay,  &c. 

46 

8,527,000 

Half  Pay,  Retired  Pay,  and  other  Non-effective  Charges  for 

Officers

-

-

-

-

-

-

Pensions  and  other  Non-effective  Charges  for  Warrant  Officers, 

Non-commissioned  Officers, Men,  and others  -

•Civil  Superannuation,  Compensation, Compassionate  Allowances, 

' and  Gratuities 

-

-

-

46 

46 

46 

1.762,000 

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-

1,868,000 

158,000 

2  August: 

The  Chairman  puts  the  Question  on  the  outstanding  Votes,  in 

pursuance  of  Standing  Order  No.  15 :— 

12.	  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £15,120,100   be  granted  to  His 
Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come  in  course  of 
payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March 
1910  for  expenditure 
the  Army  Services, 
in  respect  of 
including  Army  (Ordnance  Factories),  viz.:— 

2.	  Medical  Establishment,  Pay,  &c. -

-

-

-

3.	  Special  Reserves 

4.	  Territorial  Forces 

-

-

5.  Establishments  for  Military  Education 

. 6  .  Quartering,  Transport,  and  Remounts 

7.	  Supplies  and  Clothing

-

-

-

-

-

8.	  Ordnance  Department  Establishments  and  General 

Stores

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

349 

9.	  Armaments  and  Engineer  Stores 

10.	  Works  and  Buildings 

-

-

-

-

11.	  Miscellaneous  Effective  Services 

12.	  War  Office  and Army  Accounts  Department 

Ordnance  Factories 

440,000 

897,000 

2,307,000 

146,000 

1,665,000 

4,275,000 

535,000 

1,644,000 

2,551,000 

67,000 

593,000 

100 

15,120,100 

,	  out 
( 

Resolutions 

reported; 
First  Resolution  read 
a  s e c o nd 
t i m e; 
Amendment,  to  leave 
"188,200"  and 
insert  "  173,200,"  not 
made; 
Resolution 
agreed to;  subsequent 
Resolutions  agreed to, 
50. 

Resolution 

reported; 
read  a  second  time; 
Motion,  That 
this 
House doth agree with 
the  Committee  in  the 
said  Resolution;  and 
at  Ten  of  the  clock 
^  Mr. Speaker, pursuant 
to  Standing  Order 
No.  15, puts forthwith 
the  Question  neces­
sary to  dispose of  the 
Report of  the  Resolu­
tion  then  under  con­
sideration, and agreed 
to, 355. 

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in 
Committee. 

Sum  granted. 

Resolutions  Reported, 
and  Agreed  to. 

SUPPLY--continued. 

Page. 

£ 

s.  d. 

Page. 

N A V Y. 

22  March  : 

128,000  Officers,  Seamen,  and  Boys  employed  for  the  Sea  and 
Coast  Guard  Services,  for  the  year  ending   on  the  31st  day 
of  March  1910, including  17,719  Boyal  Marines 

-

Half  Pay  and  Retired  Pay   to  Officers of  the  Navy  and  Marines  -

Naval  and  Marine  Pensions,  Gratuities,  and  Compassionate 
-

Allowances 

•  - : 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Civil  Pensions  and  Gratuities 

-

-

-

-

-

Works,  Buildings,  and  Repairs  at  Home  and  Abroad 

2  August: 

The  Chairman  puts  the  Question  on  the  outstanding  Votes,  in 

pursuance  of  Standing  Order  No.  15  :— 

11.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £22,298,400  be  granted  to  His 
Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come   in  course  of 
payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March 
1910  for  expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Navy  Services,  viz.:— 

2.  Victualling  and Clothing  for the  Navy 

3.  Medical  Establishments  and  Services  ­

4.  Martial  Law 

-

-

5.  Educational  Services  ­

6.  Scientific  Services 

7.  Royal  Naval  Reserves 

-

-

8.  Sec.  1.—Shipbuilding,  Repairs,  Maintenance,  &c.— 

Personnel 

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.

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8.  Sec.  2.—Shipbuilding,  Repairs,  Maintenance,  &c.— 

Materiel  ­

­ • 

8.  Sec.  3.—Shipbuilding,  Repairs,  Maintenance,  &c.— 

Contract  Work 

9.  Naval  Armaments

-

-

-

-

-

-

11.  Miscellaneous  Effective  Services 

12.  Admiralty  Office 

VOL.  164. 

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70 

(Question  put, 
pursuant to 
Standing 
Order (Closure 
of  Debate).) 

70 

7,280,200 

-

-

(After  Motion 
for reduction 
withdrawn, 
Question put, 
pursuant to 
Standing 
Order (Closure 
of  Debate).) 

71 

(Question  put, 
pursuant to 
Standing 
Order (Closure 
of  Debate).) 

890,200 

-

-

71 

71 

71 

1,387,800 

369,800 

-

-

-

2,916,300 

Resolutions 

reported  ; 
First  Resolution  read 
a  s e c o nd 
- t i m e; 
Amendment  proposed, 
to leave out "128,000" 
and  insert  " 108,000," 
withdrawn;  Resolu­
tion  agreed 
to,  73. 
Report 
read  ;  BiU 
ordered,  73. 
Vide 
(ANNUAL) 
ARMY 
BILL.  Second, Third, 
Fourth,  and  Fifth 
1  Resolutions agreed to j 
Sixth  Resolution  read 
a  second  time;  day 
appointed  for  further 
consideration, 
74. 
Further  consideration 
of Resolution deferred, 
79,  81,  85,  100,  106, 
110,118,118,124,127, 

138,146,164,182,204, 
208, 219, 223, 242, 254, 

260.  Sixth Resolution 

further 
considered, 
and agreed to,  271. 

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Resolution 
reported; 
'  read  a  second  time, 
and agreed to, 355. 

)  349 
(On 
Division.) 

2,416,800

258,700

12,700

159,300

67,300

367,000

3,148,200

4,392,100

8,278,300

2,381,000

438,800

378,200

22,298,400 

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Subject. 

Agreed   to 
in 
Committee. 

Sum  granted. 

Resolutions  Reported, 
and  Agreed  to. 

S U P P L Y —c o n t i n u e d. 

P a g e. 

d. 

P a g e. 

C I V IL  S E R V I C ES  A ND  R E V E N UE  D E P A R T M E N T S. 

1  March: 

CLASS  V I.  


Old  A ge  Pensions  (Supplementary)

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3  March 

: 

CLASS  V I I. 

U n e m p l o y ed  W o r k m en  A c t,  1905,  C o n t r i b u t i o ns  

in  A id  of 

E x p e n s es  ( S u p p l e m e n t a r y) 

-

House   of  Commons  Offices  (Supplementary) 

CLASS  I I. 

Colonial  Office  (Supplementary) 

-

R e g i s t r ar  G e n e r al   o f  B i r t hs  (^Scotland)  ( S u p p l e m e n t a r y) 

CLASS  I I I. 

Inspector   of  Reformatories  and  Reformatory  and 

Industrial 

Schools  (Supplementary) 

L aw  Charges  (Supplementary)  ­

3 3 

(After Motion 
for reduced 
sum with­
drawn, and 
Motion to 
report 
Progress not 
put  (abuse 
of  Rules).) 

38 

(After  Motion 
for reduction 

Question put, 

pursuant to 

Standing Order 

(Closure of 

Debate), 

and original 


claimed, and 
agreed  to.) 

38 

(After Motion 
for reduction 
negatived 
on Division.) 

38 

38 

3 9 

3 9 

100,000 

1 0

6 10

10

4 , 5 00 

5 

Merthyr  County  School  (Grant) 

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-

3 9 

6 10

CLASS  I V. 

Harbours  (Grants   in  A i d)  (Supplementary) 

CLASS   I . 

REVENUE  DEPARTMENTS. 

C u s t o ms  ( S u p p l e m e n t a r y) 

( R e p o rt  d e f e r r e d,  4 1,  4 4 .) 

3 9 

1 0

3 9 

4 , 0 00 

9 1 0 , 0 00 

3 5 

Resolutions 

reported; 
First  Resolution  read 
a  second  time,  and 
postponed  : 
Second 
Resolution  agreed  t o  ; 
Third 
Resolution; 
this 
Motion,  That 
House doth agree, and 
further 
proceeding 
postponed ataquarter­
past  Eight,  47.  Re­
sumed,  and  Question 
agreed  to  ;  Resolu­
tions  4,  5, 6, 7, and  8 
agreed  to;  Ninth  Re­
solution read a second 
time,  and  agreed  to, 

for 

con­
post­

'  after  Motion  for  ad­
journment  of  the  De­
bate  negatived;  day 
appointed 
sideration  of 
poned  Resolution,  48. 
Resolution  again  con­
sidered,  and  at  a 
quarter  -  past  eight 
further 
proceeding 
postponed, 50,51.  Re­
sumed ;  Amendment 
proposed, to  leave out 
"£100,000"  and  in­
sert  " £99,900,"  not 
Resolution 
made  ; 

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Committee. 

Sum granted. 

Resolutions  Reported, 
and Agreed  to. 

SUPPLY—continued. 

Page. 

£ 

s.  d. 

Page. 

C I V IL  S E R V I C E S,  &c.-continued. 

10  March: 

CLASS  I I I. 

Prisons  (England  and  Wales,  and  the  Colonies)  (Supplementary) 

50 

17,380 

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-

CLASS  I V. 

Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments  (Excesses),  1907-8 

(Report  deferred,  55,  59,  62, 64,  66,  71.) 

.Resolutions 
'  and agreed  to, 74. 

reported, 

50 

50 

11,890 

-

1,380  4  10 

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11 March  : 

-

Civil  Services  and  Revenue  Departments,  1909-10  (Vote   on 
-

Account) 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

55 

26,232,000 

-

-

('Report  deferred,  59, 62,  64,  66,  72,  74.) 

15 March-. 

CLASS   V . 

Colonial  Services  (Supplementary) 

Board  of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries,  &.c.  (Supplementary) 

(Report  deferred,  62,  64,  66,  71.) 

VOL.  1 6 4 . — - S e s s.  1909. 

(After  Motion 
for reduction, 
and 
proceeding 
postponed at 
8.15 ;  resumed, 
and at 
Eleven of 
the clock 
the Chairman 
puts the 
Question 
necessary  to 
dispose of  the 
Vote, pursuant 
to  Standing 
Order No.  15 ; 
Motion for 
~  reduction 
negatived on 
Division ; 
original 
Question put, 
and agreed 
to.) 

58 

(After  Motion 
for reduction 
withdrawn.) 

59 

(After Motion 
for reduction 
negatived 
Question put, 
pursuant to 
Standing 
Order (Closure 
of  Debate); 
original 
Question 
claimed ;  put 
accordingly, 
and agreed 
to.) 

Resolution 

reported; 
read  a  second  time  ; 
Amendment 
pro-
posed,  to  leave  out 
"  £26,232,000 " 
and 
insert  "£26,231,900," 
and  Question  put, 
pursuant  to  Standing 
Order 
of 
Debate);  Amendment 
not made;  Resolution 
agreed  to, 77-8. 

(Closure 

47,000 

-

-

A

8,000 

-

^Resolutions 

reported, 

and agreed to, 74 

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680 

Subject. 

Agreed  to 
in 
Committee. 

Sum granted. 

Resolutions Reported, 
and  Agreed  to. 

S U P P L Y— continued. 

fine. 

£ 

s.  d. 

Page. 

C I V IL  S E R V I C E S,  &c.—continued. 

27  April: 

REVENUE  DEPARTMENTS. 

Post  Office  Salaries  and  Expenses 

-

-

-

(Report  deferred,  130,  133,  138,  146,  164,  182,  204,  208, 
219,  223,  242,  254,  260,  272,  280,  291,  298,  308,  325,  340, 
344,  350.) 

Revenue  Departments 

3  June  : 

(Report  deferred,  219,  223,  242,  254,  260,  272,  280,  291, 

298j  308,  325,  344,  350.) 

14 June: 

CLASS  I I. 

Home  Office 

127 

(After  Motion  

for reduction 

of  item  

negatived  on  

Division, 

proceeding 

postponed 

at 8.15, and 

resumed.) 


207 
(After  Motion 
for  reduction 
negatived  on 
Division, 
Member  moves 
to  report 
Progress,  but 
Chairman 
declines to put 
the  Question, 
&c.; 
Question again 
proposed ; 
Motion  for 
Progress 
negatived  on 
Division  ; 
Question  put, 
and, on 
Division, 
agreed to.) 

222 
(After  Motion 
for  reduction 
negatived  on 
Division.) 

12,277,930 

-

743,200 

Agreed to in outstanding 

Resolutions, 356. 

140,800 

-

Agreed to in outstanding 
in 
(on 

R e s o l u t i o ns  
Class  II.,  355 
Division). 

Lunacy  Commissioners 

-

-

-

-

-

2 23 

1 1 , 4 61 

CReport  deferred,  242,  254,  260,  271.  280,  291,  298,  308, 

325,  344,  350.) 

17  June: 

CLASS  I I. 

Local  Government  Board  ­

CLASS  I V. 

Teachers' Pension  Fund (Ireland) 

(Report deferred, 244, 254,  260.) 

169,294 

236 

(After  Motion  

for  reduction  

of  item  

withdrawn, 

and 

proceeding 

postponed 

at 8.15, and 

resumed.) 


236 

821,921 

Resolutions 

to 

reported j 
Resolutions  read  a 
second  time  ;  First 
Resolution  postponed; 
Second 
Resolution 
agreed  t o;  postponed 
Resolution 
be 
considered, 
further 
Consideration 
271. 
of  postponed  Resolu­
tion  deferred,  280, 
290,297,  308,325,344, 
350.  Postponed  Reso­
lution  agreed  to  in 
outstanding  Resolu­
tions in  Class II., 865. 

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Subject. 	

Agreed  to 
. in  . 

Committee. 

Sum granted. 

Resolutions Reported,
and Agreed to.

SUPPLY—continued. 	

Page. 

£ 

.5.  d. 

Page. 

C I V IL  S E R V I C E S,  &c.—continued. 

24 June  : 

CLASS 

I I I. 

Irish  Land  Commission 

-

-

-	

(Report  deferred,  260,  271,  280,  290,  298,  308,  325,  344, 

350.) 

253 
(After 
proceeding 
postponed
at 8.15, and 
resumed.) 

183,677 

-

Agreed  to  in  outstand-
in
ing  Resolutions 
Class  III.,  356  (on
Division).

8  July: 

CLASS  I I. 

Secretary  for  Scotland's  Office

  -

-

-

-

-

-

-

290 

11,016 

-

(Report  deferred,  297,  308,  325,  344,  350.) 

21  July : 

CLASS  I I. 

Chief  Secretary  for  Ireland  Offices  -

-

-

(Report  deferred,  325,  344,  350.) 

19,896 

-

323233 
(Afterr 

(Afte
MotioMotionn  foforr 

reductio
reductionn 
negatived.)) 
negatived.

22  July : 

CL'ASS  I I  . 

Foreign  Office  -

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

(Report  deferred,  332,  344,  351.)  	

27  July: 

CLASS  I I. 

Colonial  Office  •• 

-

(Report  deferred,  340,  344,  351.) 

VOL.  164.—-Sess.  1909. 

Agreed  to  in  outstand-
in 
ing  Resolutions 
Class  II.,  355 
(on 
Division).

41,871 

-

33,900 

-

/ 

324 
(After

Motion  for 
reduction  of 
item 
negatived  on 
Division.) 

335 
(After
Motion  for  

reduction  of  

item 

negatived  on  

Division, and 

proceeding

postponed 

at 8.15, and 

resumed.) 	

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  [1909. 

Subieet. 

Agreed  to 
in 
Committee. 

Sum granted. 

Resolutions  Reported, 
and Agreed  to. 

SUPPLY—continued. 

Page. 

£ 

5.  d. 

Page. 

C I V IL  S E R V I C E S,  &C.—continued. 

29  July  i 

CLASS  I I. 

Treasury 

-

CReport  deferred,  350.) 

343 

6 6 , 1 71 

-

Agreed to  in  outstanding 
Resolutions in  Class  II., 
355 (on  Division). 

2  August: 

CLASS  I V. 

Scientific Investigations,  &c.,  Grants  in  Aid 

347 

36,464 

-

(Including  a  Supplemen­
tary  sum of  £C,500.) 

Postponed,  355.  Agreed 
to  in  outstanding  Reso­
lutions in Class IV.,  356 
(on  Division). 

CLASS 

I T. 

Board  of  Trade 

347 

250,700 

-

(After Motion  (Including  a  Supplemen­
for  reduction 
of  item  

negatived.) 


tary  sum of  £31,000.) 

Postponed,  355, 

to  in  outstanding  Reso­
lutions in  Class  II.,  355 
(on  Division). 

R E V E N UE  DEPARTMENTS. 

Customs Department 

1,429,600 

347 
(After  Motion 
for  reduction 
negatived  on 
Division.) 

Postponed,  355.  Agreed 
to  in  outstanding  Reso­
lution  in  Revenue  De­
partments  Estimates, 
356 (on  Division). 

And it being after  Ten  of  the  clock, the 
to 

Chairman  proceeded,  pursuant 
Standing  Order  No.  15, to  put  forth­
with  the  Question  necessary to  dispose 
of  the Vote  under consideration,  347. 

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6 8   3 

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Committee. 

Sum granted. 

Resolutions Reported, 
and Agreed to. 

Page. 	

S.  d. 

Page. 

S U P PL Y—continued. 

C I V IL  S E R V I C E S,  kc.—continued. 

2  August—continued. 

The  Chairman  then  proceeded  to  put  severally  the  Questions, 
That  the  total  amounts  of  the  Votes  outstanding  in  each  Class of 
the Civil  Services  Estimates, including  Supplementary  Estimates, 
and the  total  amount  of  the  Votes  outstanding  in the  Estimates 
for  the  Navy  and  the  Army  (including  Ordnance  Factories), 
be  granted  for  the  Services  defined 
in  those  Classes  and 
Estimates  : — 

CLASS   I . 

4.	  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £1,994,784   be  granted  to  His 
Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come   in  course  of 
payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March 
1910  for  expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included  in 
Class  I.  of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services,  viz.:— 

1.	  Royal  Palaces

-

-

-

-

-

-

2.	  Osborne 

-

-

-

-

3.	  Royal  Parks  and  Pleasure  Gardens 

4.  Houses  of  Parliament  Buildings  -	

4A.  Salisbury  Memorial 

-

-

-

-

-	

5.	  Miscellaneous  Legal  Buildings,  Great  Britain 

6.  Art  and  Science  Buildings,  Great  Britain 

-	

7.	  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Buildings 

8.	  Revenue  Buildings 

-

347 	
(On 	
Division.) 	

9.	  Publio  Buildings,  Great  Britain  (including  a  Supple­

mentary  sum of  £21,000) 

-

9A.  Labour  Exchange  Buildings,  Great  Britain  	

10.  Surveys  of  the  United  Kingdom  	

11.  Harbours  under  the  Board   of  Trade 

-	

12.  Peterhead  Harbour 

-

-

-	

13.  Rates  on  Government  Property  -	

14.  Public  Works  and  Buildings,  Ireland 

-	

15.  Railways,  Ireland 

39,100 

7,300 

62,500 

31,900 

100 

28,500 

57,000 

57,100 

494,000 

431,000 


70,000 

110,076 

45,196 

22,000 

354,500 

151,017 

33,495 

1,994,784 

VOL.  164. - S e s s.  1909.  	

4  s  3 

) 

Postponed,  355.  Mr. 
Speaker puts the Ques­
tion  on  the  outstand­
ing  Resolutions 
of 
Class  I.,  pursuant  to 
Standing Order No. 15, 
355 (on  Division). 

 
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Subject. 	

Agreed to 
in 
Committee 

Sum granted. 

Resolutions  Reported,
and Agreed  to.

SUPPLY—continued. 

C I V IL  S E R V I C E S,  &c.—continued. 

2  August—continued. 

CLASS  I I. 

6.	  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £1,111,392   be  granted  to  His 
Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come  in  course  of 
payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March 
1910  for  expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included  in 
Class  II.  of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services,  viz.: — 

Page. 

£ 

s.  d. 

Page. 

/ 

\ 

1.	  House  of  Lords  Offices 

-

2.	  House  of  Commons  Offices 

7.	  Privy  Council  Office -

-

9.  Mercantile  Marine  Services 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

10.  Bankruptcy  Department  of  the  Board  of  Trade  -	

11.  Board  of  Agriculture  and  Fisheries 

-

-

-

12.  Charity  Commission 

-	

13.  Civil  Service  Commission

-

-

-

-

-

14.  Exchequer  and  Audit  Department 

15.  Friendly  Societies  Registry 

18.  Mint,  including  Coinage 

19.  National  Debt  Office 

20.  Public  Record  Office 

-

-

-

-

-

-	

21.  Public  Works  Loan  Commission 

22.	  Registrar  General's  Office, England 

-

-

-	

-

-

-

-

-

-

-	

-

-

23.  Stationery  and  Printing

-

-

-

-

-

24.  Woods,  Forests,  and  Land  Revenues,  &c.  Office 

25.	  Works  and  Public  Buildings  Office  (including  a  Sup­

plementary  sum of  £9,339) 

-

26.  Secret  Service 

•• 

SCOTLAND. 

28.  Fishery  Board

-

-

-

-

29.  Lunacy  Commission

-

30.  Registrar  General's  Office

31.  Local  Government Board 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-	

-	

-	

-	

-	

-

-

-

-

IRELAND. 

32.  Household  of  Lord  Lieutenant  of  Ireland 

34.  Department  of  Agriculture  and  Technical  Instruction 

35.  Charitable  Donations  and  Bequests  Office 

36.  Local  Government  Board 

37.  Public  Record  Office 

38.  Public  Works  Office  ­

39.  Registrar  General's  Office ­

40.  Valuation  and  Boundary  Survey 

-

-

. 

348
(On 
Division.)

15,894 

25,180 

6,240 

' 

80,316 

5 

98,169 

14,222 

21,403 

39,400 

5,807 

87 

7,882 

15,260 

848 

29,315 

390,960 

13,869 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

64,276 

-

10,000 

13,197

3,921

3,231

10,535

2,672

134,817

1,055

47,731

4,212

27,992

7,170

15,726

1,111,392 

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-	

-	

)	 

Postponed,  355.  Mr. 
Speaker puts the Ques­
tion  on  the outstand­
ing  Resolutions 
of
Class  II.,  pursuant to 
Standing Order No.15,
355 (on  Division).

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Subject. 

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Committee. 

Sum granted. 

Resolutions  Reported, 
and Agreed  to. 

S U P P  L Y—continued. 

Page. 

s.  d. 

Page. 

C I V I  L  S E R V I C E S,  kc.—continued. 

2  August—continued. 

CLASS  I I I. 

6.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £2,153,357   be  granted  to  His 
Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come   in  course  of 
payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March 
1910  for  expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included  in 
Class  I I I.   of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services,  viz.:— 

1.  Law  Charges

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

2.  Miscellaneous  Legal  Expenses 

3.  Supreme  Court  of  Judicature 

4.  Land  Registry 

5.  Public  Trustee

6.  County  Courts  ­

-

-

-

-

-

-

7.  Police,  England  and  Wales 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

8.  Prisons,  England  and  the  Colonies 

-

-

9.  Reformatory  and  Industrial  Schools,  Great  Britain 

10.  Broadmoor  Criminal Lunatic  Asylum 

SCOTLAND. 

11.  Law  Charges  and  Courts   of  Law

348 
(On 
Division.) 

12.  Register  House,  Edinburgh 

13.  Crofters  Commission

  ­

14.  Prisons 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

IRELAND. 

15.  Law  Charges  and  Criminal  Prosecutions 

16.  Supreme  Court  of  Judicature  and  other

  Legal 

Departments  ­

18.  County  Court  Officers, &c. 

19.  Dublin  Metropolitan  Police 

V 

20.  Royal  Irish  Constabulary

  ­

-

-

-

-

21.  Prisons 

22.  Reformatory  and  Industrial  Schools 

23.  Dundrum  Criminal  Lunatic  Asylum 

-

_ 

59,897 

22,614 

178,270 

22,555 

300 

3 

24,888 

423,737 

142,562 

46,248 

52,185 

27,993 

2,485 

62,390 

40,343

61,919

70,875

36,963

750,918

67,695

55,108

3,409

2,153,357 

VOL.  164. 

-Sess.  1909. 

4  s  3 

) 

Postponed,  355.  Mr. 
Speaker puts the Ques­
tion  on  the  outstand­
ing  Resolutions 
of 
Class III., pursuant to 
Standing Order No. 15, 
356 (on  Division). 

 
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YOLTTME. 

[1909. 

Subject. 

Agreed  to 
in 
Committee. 

Sum granted. 

Resolutions  Reported, 
and Agreed  to. 

SUPPLY—continued. 

Page. 

£ 

s.  d. 

Page. 

C I V I  L  S E R V I C E S,  kc.—continued. 

2  August—continued. 

CLASS 

I V  . 

7.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £8,232,508   be  granted  to  His 
Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come   in  course  of 
payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March 
] 910  for  expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included  in 
Class  I V  .  of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services,  viz.:— 

\ 

1,  Board  of  Education 

2.  British  Museum

-

-

* 

-

-

-

-

3.  National  Gallery  (including  a  Supplementary  sum  of 

£10,000) 

4.  National  Portrait  Gallery

-

-

-

-

-

5.  Wallace  Collection 

7.  Universities  and  Colleges,  Great  Britain,  and  Inter­

mediate  Education,  Wales 

* 

348 
(On 
Division.) 

8.  Public  Education, Scotland

-

-

-

-

9.  National  Galleries,  Scotland 

IRELAND. 

11.  Endowed  Schools  Commissioners

12.  National  Gallery 

13.  Queen's  Colleges

-

-

-

-

-

-

13A,  Universities  and  Colleges  ­

\ 

Postponed,  355.  Mr. 
Speaker puts the Ques­
tion  on  the  outstand­
\  ing  Resolutions  of 
Class IV., pursuant  to 
Standing Order No.15, 
356 (on  Division). 

6,648,792

119,228

13,725

2,793

3,614

142,400

1,267,541

2,392

520

1,153

2,200

28,150

/ 

8,232,508 

CLASS   V . 

8.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £1,192,740   be  granted  to  His 
Majesty, to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come  in  course  of 
payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March 
1910  for  expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included  in 
Class  V .  of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services,  viz.   :— 

/ 

1.  Diplomatic  and  Consular  Services 

2.  Colonial  Services

-

-

-

-

-

-

1 

348 
(On 
Division.) 

S 

347,006

806,521

~ 

. 

Postponed,  355. *  f Mr. 
Speaker puts the Ques­
tion  on  the  outstand­
ing  Resolutions 
of 
Class  V.,  pursuant  to 
Standing Order No.15, 
356 (on  Division). 

3.  Telegraph  Subsidies  and  Pacific  Cable 

4.  Cyprus  (Grant  in  Aid) 

_ 

_ 

1 

38,213

1,000

1,192,740

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6 8   7 

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Agreed   to 
in 
Committee 

Sum  granted. 

Resolutions  Reported,
and  A g r e ed  to.

S U P PL Y—continued. 

Page. 

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C I V I  L  S E R V I C E S,  &C.—continued. 

2  August—continued. 

CLASS  V I  . 

9.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £5,310,204   be  granted  .to  His 
Majesty,  to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come  in  course  of 
payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March 
1910  for  expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included  in 
Class  VI.   of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services,  viz.   :— 

1.  Superannuation  and  Retired  Allowances 

2.  Miscellaneous  Charitable  and  other  Allowances  ­

)

349  < 

3.  Hospitals  and  Charities,  Ireland 

4.  Savings  Banks  and  Friendly  Societies'  Deficiencies 

(including  a  Supplementary  sum of  £1,434) 

376,139

309

981 

182,755

5.  Old  Age  Pensions

-

-

-

-

-

-

/

4,750,000

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CLASS  V I I  . 

• 

10.  That  a  sum  not  exceeding  £423,416   be  granted  to  His 
Majesty, to  defray  the  charge  which  will  come   in  course  of 
payment  during  the  year  ending  on  the  31st  day  of  March 
1910  for  expenditure  in  respect  of  the  Services  included  in 
Class  V I I.   of  the  Estimates  for  Civil  Services,  viz. :•— 

\

/ 

1.  Temporary  Commissions

2.  Miscellaneous  Expenses

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

3.  Repayments  to  the  Local  Loans  Fund 

>  349­

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4.  Ireland  Development  Grant 

5.  Government  Hospitality 

5,310,204 

25,000

7,123

9,441

86,874

5,000

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of 
Class VII., pursuant to 
Standing Order No.15,
356. 

6.  Repayments  to  the  Civil  Contingencies  Fund 

29,978

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7.  Expenses  under  the  Unemployed  Workmen  Act,  1905 

8.  International  Exhibitions

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200,000

60,000

423,416 

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and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME,  

[1909. 

SUPREME  COURT  

o f 

JUDICATURE 

(Ireland). 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

SUPREME  COURT   o f  JUDICATURE  A C T,  1 8 7 5. 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 


SUPREME  COURT   o f  JUDICATURE  (Ireland)  A C T,  1 8 7 7. 

V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

SUPREME  COURT  (Rules). 

V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

SWEATED  INDUSTRIES ;  Bill   to  improve  the  conditions   of 
employment,  including  the  establishment  of  a 
legal 
minimum wage, of persons employed in certain Industries ; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  18. 
Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a  second  time; 
Amendment  proposed,  to  leave  out  words  and  add 
others;  Debate  adjourned,  82.  Further  adjourned,  86, 
for  resumption   of  adjourned 
105.  Day  appointed 
Debate,  140.  Order  for  resuming  adjourned  Debate 
discharged  ;  another  day  appointed,  209,  235. 

SWEATED  INDUSTRIES  (Importation);  Motion  for 

leave 
to  bring  in  a Bill  to  improve  the  conditions  of  employ­
ment  by  prohibiting  the  importation  of  certain  goods 
unless manufactured  tinder  certain  conditions  of  labour  ; 
and  Mr.  Speaker  puts  the Question,  pursuant   to  Stand­
ing  Order  No.  11,  and  Question,   on  Division,  negatived, 
73. 

SWINTON  and  MEXBOROUGH  GAS  BOARD  ;  B i ll  r e ad 

time  for depositing  Petitions  praying  to  be  heard  against 
the  Bill  extended,  204.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not 
previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  224.  Day  ap­
pointed  for  Second  Reading,  241.  Second  Reading 
.  deferred,  253, 257.  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read 
a  second  time ;  Amendment  proposed,  "  three  months," 
but,  on  Division,  not  made  ;  Closure  claimed,  but  assent 
withheld;  Main  Question  agreed   to  on  Division  ;  Bill 
Instruction  to 
read  a second  time,  and  committed,  272. 
the  Committee,  282.  Reported,  parties  do  not  proceed, 
410. 

TARIFFS  RETALIATION  ;  Motion,  That  this  House,  while 
recognising  that  fiscal  retaliation  can  only  be  effectively 
applied  upon  the  basis  of  a  general  Tariff,  welcomes 
the  recent  declarations  of  the  President  of  the  Board 
of  Trade,  &c.;  Amendment  proposed,   to  leave  out 
words  and  add  others,  and, on  Division,  made;  words 
added ;  Main  Question,  so amended,  put, and  agreed  to  ; 
Resolution,  &c., 88. 

TAUNTON  BOROUGH  W R I T.  V i de  ELECTIONS. 

TAXATION ;  Motion,  That,  in  the  opinion  of  this  House, 
having  regard  to  the  circumstances  of  the  people  and 
the  distribution  of  wealth,  the  amount  of  Taxation 
raised  by  direct  means  is  insufficient  and  unequal  in 
comparison  with  that  which  is  raised  by  indirect  taxes, 
and in  comparison  with  the  material  condition  of  those 
from  whom  such  respective  taxes  are  raised;  and  at 
Eleven  of  the  clock  Debate  stood  adjourned, 47. 

the  first  time,  and  ordered to  be  read  a  second  time,  15.  

Bead  a second  time,  and  committed,  23.  Bill  reported,  

with  Amendments,  94.  Considered,  as  amended,  102. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  107.  Agreed   to  by  

the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  318.  Lords'  Amend-

ments  agreed  to, 327.  (Cited as Swinton and  Mexborough 
Gas Board Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

TAXATION  and  PURCHASE   o f  LAND. 

V i de  LOCAL 

AUTHORITIES  (Taxation  and Purchase of  Land). 

TAXATION  of  LAND.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

TAXATION  of  LAND  VALUES   (Miscellaneous,  No.  6,  1909). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS; 

9  Edw. VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

T A F  F  V A LE  R A I L W AY  (Cardiff  Railway,  Vesting,  Sfc.) 

£Lords] (changed  to  Taff  Vale  Railway  Bill)  ;  Report, 
That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the  House  of  Lords, 
10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified   to  have  been 
complied  with,  12.  Brought 
from  the  Lords,  196. 
Read  the  first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners, 
197. 
Standing  Order  128  suspended,  and  time  for 
depositing  Petitions  praying  to  be  heard' against  the 
Bill  extended,  204.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not  pre­
viously  inquired  into  not  complied  with,  referred   to  the 
Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  215.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed  with ;  parties  to 
proceed  with  their  B i l l;  Resolution  reported  from  the 
Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders  read;  Bill   to  be 
read  a  second  time,  225.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  241.  Motion  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a 
second  time;  Amendment  proposed,  "  three  months," 
and, on  Division,  not  made;  Main  Question  again  pro­
posed,  and  it  being  after  Eleven  Mr.  Speaker  interrupts 
the  Business;  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing 
Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  and  agreed  to ;  Bill  read a 
second  time,  and  committed,  253. 
Instruction  to  the 
Committee,  282.  Reported,  with  Amendments  ;  Title 
amended,  409.  Considered,  as  amended,  414.  Read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  with Amendments,  421.   To 
which  the  Lords  agree,  437. 
(Cited  as  Taff  Vale  Rail­
way Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  447. 

T A FF  V A LE  R A I L W AY  (Rhymney  Railway,  Vesting,  8fc.) 

[.Lords'] ;  Report,  That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the 
House  of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified 
to  have  been  complied  with,  12.  Brought  from  the 
Lords,  196.  Read  the  first  time,  and  referred   to  the 
Examiners,  197.  Standing  Order  128  suspended,  and 

TAXES  and  IMPOSTS.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

T E A.  V i de  W A YS  and  MEANS. 

TEACHERS'  REGISTRATION  FUND  DEPOSIT  ACCOUNT. 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

TELEGRAPH  (Arbitration); Bill  to  give  further  powers  to 
the  Railway  and  Canal  Commission  to  determine  differ­
ences with, respect  to Telegraphs  (including  Telephones)  ; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  160. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  171,  190, 212,  214,  216,  219, 
224,  243,  260.  Read  a second  time,  and  committed   to  a 
Standing Committee, 275.   B,  282.  Member  discharged, 
another  appointed,  in  respect of  the  Bill;  Fifteen  Mem­
the  -Bill,  290.  Members 
bers  added  in  respect  of 
discharged,  others  appointed,  295. 
reported, 
Bill 
without Amendment, 299.  Consideration  (not  amended) 
deferred,  317,  323,  325,  332,  340,  344,  346,  351,  357, 
359,  361,  367,  382,  394,  397,400,  403,  413.  Bill  (not 
amended) considered  ;  read the third time and passed, 417. 
Agreed to by the Lords, without Amendment, 468.  ( Cited 
as Telegraph  (Arbitration)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  491. 

TELEGRAPH  and  TELEPHONE  ACCOUNTS 

(Departmental 

Committee).  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

TEMPERANCE  (Scotland)  ;  Bill  to  promote  Temperance  in 
Scotland;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  19.  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a  second 
time  ;  Amendment  proposed, 
"  six  months;"  Debate 
arising;  Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld;  Question 
put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  o f D e b a t e ), 
and  Amendment,  on  Division,  not  made ;  Bill  read  a 
second  time;  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  committed  to  a 
Committee  of  the  whole  House,  negatived  on  Division  ; 
Bill  committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  30. 
Scottish 
Standing  Committee,  33.  Fifteen  Members  added  in 







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(Scotland)—continued. 

respect  of  the  Bill,  34.  Member  discharged,  another 
appointed,  65.  Reported  from  Standing  Committee, 
with  Amendments;  day  appointed  for consideration,  160. 
Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  172,  212,  231,  237, 
256,  281,  317,  383,  534. 

TEMPORARY  L A W S.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

to  the  Committee  that  they  do  hear  Counsel  and  ex­
amine  Witnesses  for and  against  the  Bill,  73.  Minutes 
of  Evidence,  &c.  communicated  from  the  Lords,  80. 
Reported,  without  Amendment,  from  the  Select  Com­
mittee  on  Divorce  Bills  ;  Minutes   of  Evidence,  and 
Proceedings  in  the  House  of  Lords,  to  he  returned,  90. 
Read  the third  time  and  passed, without  Amendment,  98. 
(Cited  as  Torrens' Divorce  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
135. 

TERRITORIAL  A R MY  BALLOT   ;  Bill  to  amend  and  apply 
the  Militia  Ballot  Acts   to  the  Territorial  Army:,  pre­
sented,  and  ordered 
to  be  read  a  second  time,  28. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  44,  59,  72,  86,  101,  124,  139, 
154,  171,  191, 212,  244,  261,  281,  298,  317. 

TOWN  TENANTS   ;  Bill  to  improve  the  position  of  Tenants 
of  certain  houses,  shops,  and  other  buildings  in  Great 
Britain;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  88.  Second  Reading  deferred,  158. 

THAMES  CONSERVANCY.   V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

THAMES  TUNNEL  (North  and  South  Woolwich);  Bill 
read  the first time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a second  time, 
15.  Read  a second  time, and  committed,  23.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  63.  Considered,  as  amended,  72. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  82.  Agreed   to  by  the 
Lords,  with  Amendments,  324.  Lords'  Amendments 
(Cited  as  Thames Tunnel (North and 
agreed  to,  330. 
South Woolwich)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

to  abolish 

THEATRES  and  M u s ic  HALLS  ;  Bill  

the 
powers  of  the  Lord  Chamberlain  in  respect  of  Stage 
Plays,  and to  vest  in  Local  Authorities  the  licensing   of 
Theatres,  Music  Halls,  and  places  of  public  entertain­
ment ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a second  time, 
118.  Second  Reading  deferred,  128,  139,  154,  171,  191. 
Dav  appointed 
Second 
Reading  deferred,  212,  231, 237,  244,  247,  261,  264,  268, 
281,  291. 

for  Second  Reading,  205. 

TOBACCO.  Vide  W A YS   and  MEANS. 

TORQUAY  a nd  PAIGNTON  TRAMWAYS  [L o r d s   ]  ;  R e p o r t, 
That  the Bill  should  originate in  the  House  of  Lords,  10. 
Report  on  Petition  for  Bill,  originating  in  the  Lords, 
That  the  Standing  Orders  have  not  been  complied  with, 
referred  to  the  Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders, 
Examiners  report  they  have  certified  Standing 
36. 
Orders  not  complied  with,  39.  Report  from  Select 
Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  on  Petition 
for  Bill, 
Standing  Orders  ought  to  be  dispensed  with;  parties 
to  proceed  with  their  Bill,  79.  Resolution   of  the  Select 
Committee  on  Standing  Orders  of  2oth  March,  with 
respect  to  the  Bill,  referred  back   to  the  Committee,  &c., 
139.  Report 
from  Select  Committee   on  Standing 
Orders,  That  in  the  case  of  the  recommitted  Resolution 
Standing  Orders  to  be dispensed with  ;  parties  to  include 
in  their  Bill  the  provision  required,  156.  Report   on 
Petition  for  additional  provision,  Standing  Orders  not 
complied  with, referred  to  Select  Committee on  Standing 
from  Select  Committee   on 
Orders,  247. 
to  be 
Standing  Orders,  Standing  Orders  ought  
dispensed  with  ;  additional  provision  to be  inserted,  299, 
Brought  from  the  Lords,  313,  Read  the first time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  313.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  324. 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  333.  Reported, 
with  Amendments;  additional  provision  inserted,  pur­
suant to  Resolution,  360,  Considered,  as  amended,  368. 
Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments, 
378.   To  whieh  the  Lords  agree,  411. 
(Cited as Tor-
quay and Paignton  Tramways  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
382. 

Report 

TOWN  TENANTS 

(Ireland);  

the  T o wn 
Tenants  (Ireland)  Act,  1906;  presented,  and  ordered 
to be  read  a second  time,  18.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
97,  139. 

to  amend 

Bill  

TRADE  and  NAVIGATION.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

TRADE  BOARDS ;  Motion  for  leave  to  bring  in  a  Bill  

to  provide  for  the  establishment  of  Trade  Boards  for  

certain  Trades  ;  Question  put,  pursuant  tO  Standing  

Order  N°-  11>  and  agreed  t o;  Bill  ordered;  presented  

accordingly, and  read  the first time, 77.  Second  Reading  

deferred,  81,  85,  100,  105,  110,  123,  127.  Motion,  That  

the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second  time;  Amendment  pro­
posed,  to  leave  out  words  and  add  others,  withdrawn;  

Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed  to  a  Stand­
ing  Committee,  130.  C,  134,  Members  discharged,  

others  appointed 
in  substitution,  141,  156,  173,  177,  

Fifteen  Members  added   in  respect  of  the  

214,  220. 
Bill,  141.  Member  discharged,  another  reinstated  on  

the  Committee,  156.  Bill  reported,  with  Amendments,  

225.  Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  243,  246, 
250,  259,  264,  268,  272,  275,  279,  284,  287,  297.  Con­
sidered,  as  amended;  Amendments  made  ;  Bill  read  the 
third  time  and  passed,  310.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords, 
with  Amendments,  449.  Day  appointed  for  considering 
them,  460. 
Consideration  of  Lords'  Amendments 
deferred,  465,  468,  470,  474,  478.  Lords'  Amendments 
agreed  to,  482. 
(Cited  as  Trade  Boards  Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  491. 

TRADE  BOARDS  [Expenses]  ;  Motion  for  the  House   to  

resolve  itself  into  a  Committee  to consider  of  authorising  

the  payment,  out  of  moneys  provided  by  Parliament,  of  

remuneration  and  expenses  incurred  under  any  A ct   of 
the  present  Session  to  provide  for  the  establishment  

of Trade  Boards for certain Trades;  King's  Recommenda­
tion  signified,  140.  Committee  on  matter  deferred,  144,  

146,  149,  153,  158,  162,  164,  171,  175,  178.  Matter 
considered  in  Committee,  183.  Resolution  reported; 
read  a  second  time  ;  Motion,  That  this  House  doth 
agree  with  the  Committee  in  the  Resolution  ;  Debate  

adjourned,  190.  Resumed, and  Question  put, and  agreed  

to  on  Division,  209.  


TRADE  DISPUTES ;  Bill  to  promote  arbitration  in  Trade 
Disputes  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  46.  Second  Reading  deferred,  59,  78,  83,  95. 
Matter  considered  in  Committee,  and  reported,  183. 

TRADE  (Foreign  Countries  and British Possessions).  Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 

TRADE  REPORTS.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

TORRENS'  DIVORCE  [Lords];  Bill,  intituled  An  A ct   to 
dissolve  the  Marriage  of  James  Robert  Torrens  with 
Enid  Maud,  Torrens, his  present  wife, and  to  enable  him 
to  m a r ry   again,  and  for  other  purposes;  brought  from 
the  Lords;  read  a  first  time,  65.  Read  a  second  time, 
and  committed,  72.  Message  requesting  the  Lords  to 
Instruction 
communicate  Minutes of  Evidence,  &c.,  72. 

TRAINING   o f  TEACHERS   i n  W A L ES  (including   Monmouth­

shire).  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

TRAMWAY  ORDERS.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

TRAMWAYS  a nd  L I G HT  R A I L W A YS  (Street   and  Road). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

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TRAMWAYS  ORDERS  CONFIRMATION 

[Lords] 

;  Bill, 
intituled  An   A ct   to  confirm  certain  Provisional  Orders 
made  by  the  Board  of  Trade  under  the  Tramways 
A c t,   1870,  relating  to  Bolton  Corporation  Tramways, 
Keighley  Corporation  Tramways,  Morecambe  Corpora-
tion  Tramways,  Portsmouth  Corporation  Tramways, 
and  Whitworth  Urban  District  Council  Tramways; 
brought 
from  the  L o r d s;   read  the  first  time,  and 
referred  to  the  Examiners,  324.  Order,  That  so  much 
of  Standing  Order  73  as  provides  that  notice  of  the 
day  on  which  a  Provisional  Order  Bill  will  be  examined, 
&c.  be  suspended,  330.  Examiners  report  Standing 
thereto  complied  with,  341.  Bill 
Orders  applicable 
read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  344. 
Reported, 
with  Amendments;  Provisional  Orders  confirmed,  373. 
Considered,  as  amended,  378.  Read  the  third  time 
and  passed,  with  Amendments,  379. 
To   which  the 
(Cited   as  Tramways  Orders  Con-
Lords  agree,  414. 
firmation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  446. 

TRANSVAAL.  V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

TRAWLERS'  CERTIFICATES  SUSPENSION  ;  Bill  to  enable 
Courts  to  suspend  the  Certificates  of  Trawlers  convicted 
of  illegal  trawling;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time,  63.  Second  Reading  deferred,  69,  78, 
9 2,   9 7,   1 2 0,   1 3 2 , 1 6 6,   1 8 0. 

TRAWLING  in  P R O H I B I T ED   AREAS  (P r e v e n t i o n)   ;  B i ll   to 
prohibit  the  landing  and  selling  in  the  United  Kingdom 
of  Fish  caught  in  prohibited  areas  of  the  sea  adjoining 
,  Scotland;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  63. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  66,  71,  85,  100, 
106,  110.  Motion,  That-  the  Bill  be  now  read  a  second 
time  ;  Amendment  proposed,  "  six  months," on  Division, 
not  made;  Bill  read  a  second  time  ;  Motion,  That  the 
Bill . be  committed  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House, 
negatived  on  Division;  Bill  committed  to  a  Standing 
Committee,  112.  C , 1 1 7.   Members  discharged,  others 
appointed,  126,  129,  135,  145.  Fifteen  Members  added 
in  respect  of  the  Bill,  126.  Reported,  with  Amend-
ments ;  day  appointed 
for  consideration,  as  amended, 
156.  Consideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  171,  190, 
208,  211.  Order  for  consideration,  as  amended,  read; 
Bill  recommitted 
In-
struction  to  the  Committee;  Bill  considered  in  Com-
mittee,  and  reported, with Amendments  ;  Title amended  ; 
Bill,  as  amended  in  the  Standing  Committee,  and  on 
recommittal,  considered;  a  Clause  added;  Amend-
ments  made;  day  appointed  for  Third  Reading,  221. 
Bill,  as  amended  on  recommittal,  and  on  consideration, 
as amended, to  be printed,  222.  Third  Reading  deferred, 
the 
Proceedings  not  to  be  interrupted  under 
230. 
Standing  Order  (Sittings  of  the  House),  233.  Motion, 
That  the  Bill  be  now read  the  third  time  ;  Amendment 
proposed,  "  three  months,"  and,  on  Division,  not  made  ; 
Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed,  233.  Agreed  to 
by  the  Lords,  with  Amendments,  361.  Day  appointed 
for  considering  them,  389.  Lords'  Amendments  con-
in 
sidered,  and  agreed  to,  396. 
Prohibited  Areas  (Prevention)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
4 4 6. 

in  respect  of  a  new  Clause  ; 

(Cited   as  Trawling 

T R E A S U RY   C H E S T.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

T R E A TY   S E R I E S.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

TRENT  R A I L W AY   and  BRIDGE 

[L o r d s]   ;  R e p o r t,   T h at 
the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied 
with,  12. 

TRUCK  ACTS  (D e p a r t m e n t al   Committee).  V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

TRUSTEES'  ACCOUNTS ;  Bill  to  declare  the  L aw   relating 
to  the  duties  of  Trustees  to  keep  and  furnish  accounts  of 
their  trust  property  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time,  24.  Read  a  second  time;  Motion,  That 
to  a  Select  Committee,  and 
the  Bill  be  committed 
Question  negatived;  Bill  committed 
to  a  Standing 
Committee,  48.  A,   52. 
Fifteen  Members  added  to 
Standing  Committee  in  respect  of  the  Bill,  60.  R e-
ported  from  the  Standing  Committee, with  Amendments  ; 
day  appointed  for  consideration,  79.  Consideration,  as 
amended,  deferred,  86,  92,  94.  Considered,  as  amended, 
239.  As   amended  on  consideration,  to  be  printed,  248. 
Third  Reading  on  future  day  discharged,  another  day 
appointed,  253,  271.  Third  Reading  deferred,  317,  329, 
3 3 7,   4 1 1,   4 1 4,   4 1 7,   4 2 0,   4 3 2,   4 3 7,   4 5 1,   4 6 3,   4 7 4.   4 9 3, 
502,  521,  527,  528.  Motion,  That  the  Bill  be  now 
read  the  third  t i m e;   Debate  arising;  Motion,  That 
the  Debate  be  now  adjourned;  Question  negatived  on 
Division  ;  original  Question  put,  and  agreed  t o;   Bill 
read  the  third  time  and  passed,  534. 

T R U S T EE   SAVINGS  B A N K S.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

TRUSTS  ;  Bill  to  declare  and  amend  the  Law  relating  to 
private  Trusts  and  Trustees;  presented,  and  ordered  to 
be  read  a  second  time,  219.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
2 3 7. 

TUBERCULOSIS  (Human  and  Bovine)  (Royal  Commission). 

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

TUBERCULOSIS 

I N T E R N A T I O N AL   CONGRESS  of  

1 9 0 8. 

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

TUBERCULOSIS. 

V i de   A C C O U N T S.  

, 

: 

" 

T U R K EY  

(  No.  1,  1 9 0 9 ).   V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

T wo   P O W ER   S T A N D A R D.  

V i de   N A V AL   D E F E N C E. 

9  Edw.  VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

[JLTIMUS  H I E R ES 

(Scotland)   (Account  and  List 

of 

Estates).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

UNDER  SHERIFFS  (County   Boroughs) 

(Ireland)  ;  Bill  to 
make  further  provision  for  the  appointment  and  tenure 
of  office  of  Under  Sheriff 
in  administrative  County 
Boroughs  in  Ireland;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time,  80.  Second  Reading  deferred,  86,  89. 
Read,  a  second  time,  and  committed  to  a  Standing 
Committee,  93.  B,   96.  Member  discharged,  another 
appointed;  Thirteen  Members  added 
in  respect  of 
the  Bill,  112.  T wo   Members  added  to  the  Committee, 
114.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  from Standing  Com-
mittee  ;  day  appointed  for  consideration,  126.  Con-
sideration,  as  amended,  deferred,  139,  142,  240,  256,  261, 
264,  268,  281,  285,  288,  298,  308,  317,  326,  351,  362. 

U N E M P L O Y ED   W O R K M EN   A C T,   1 9 0 5.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

UNEMPLOYED  WORKMEN  ;  Bill  to  provide  Work  through 
Public  Authorities for unemployed  persons, and for other 
purposes  connected  therewith  ;  presented,  and  ordered to 
be  read  a  second  time,  18.  Motion,  That  the  Bill  be 
now  read  a  second  time  ;  Amendment  proposed,  "  six 
months,"  and,  on  Division,  made  ;  words  added  ;  Second 
Reading  put  off for  six  months,  135. 

UNEMPLOYMENT.  V i de   KING'S  SPEECH  ( Motion  for 

an 

T R I N I D AD   a nd   T O B A G O.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

Address). 

T R O P I C AL  

DISEASES 

R E S E A R CH  

F U N D.  

V i ae 

UNION  of  BENEFICES  ACT 

(Saint  Pancras  with  All 

A C C O U N T S. 

Saints,  Gordon  Square).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

9  EDW.  V I I .]  

I N D EX  

to  the  O NE   H U N D R ED   and  S I X T Y - F O U R TH   V O L U M E.  

.615 

UNION  OFFICERS  (I r e l a n d);   Bill  to  amend  the  L aw   as 
to  the  superannuation  of  certain  Workhouse  Officers  in 
Ireland;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  169.  Second  Reading  deferred,  191,  213,  215, 
217.  Order  for  Second  Reading  read,  and  at  half-past 
Eleven  House  was  adjourned  ;  no  further  proceeding; 
day 
Second 
Reading  deferred,  231,  237,  240.  Day  appointed  for 
Second  Reading,  302.  Second  Reading  deferred,  317, 
329.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading,  401.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  425,  432,  437,  445,446,  451,  463,  465, 
468,  470,  474,  493,  502,  520,  534. 

for  Second  Reading,  220. 

appointed 

U N I T ED   K I N G D OM   T E M P E R A N CE   a nd   G E N E R AL   P R O-
;  Report,  That  the  Bill 
VIDENT  INSTITUTION  [Lords] 
should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report, 
Standing  Orders certified to  have  been  complied  with,  12. 
Bill  brought  from  the  Lords,  90.  Read  the  first  time, 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  91.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  97. 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  108.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  145.  Considered,  as  amended,  159. 
Read  the  third  time  and  passed, with  Amendments,  168. 
(Cited   as  United 
To   which  the  Lords  agree,  187. 
Kingdom  Temperance  and  General  Provident  Institution 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192. 

UNITED  KINGDOM  (Trade,  Commerce,  and  Condition  of 

People).  Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

U N I T ED   S T A T ES   (No. 

1 , 1 9 0 9 ).  

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

U N I T ED   STATES 

of   AMERICA 

(New 

Customs 

Tariff). 

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

U N I V E R S I T I ES   of   O X F O RD   a nd   C A M B R I D GE   A C T,   1 8 77 

(Cambridge).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

U N I V E R S I T I ES   of   O X F O RD   a nd   C A M B R I D GE   A C T,   1 8 77 

(Oxford). 

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

UNIVERSITY  COLLEGES  (Great  Britain) 

(Grant 

in  Aid). 

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

U N I V E R S I TY   of   A B E R D E E N.  

V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

U N I V E R S I TY   of   D U R H AM   A C T,   1 9 0 8.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

U N I V E R S I TY   of   E D I N B U R G H.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

U N I V E R S I TY   of   G L A S G O W.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

U N I V E R S I TY   of   L O N D ON   A C T,   1 8 9 8.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

U N I V E R S I TY   of   S A I NT   A N D R E W S.   V i de   A C C O U N T S. 

UNOPPOSED 

B I LL  

COMMITTEES 

(Panel). 

V i de 

S E L E C T I O N. 

9  Edw.  VII.  Pari.  28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

V A G R A N C Y;   Bill  to  repeal  the  Vagrancy  Act,  1824; 
ordered  ;  presented  accordingly,  read  the  first  time,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  177.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  200, 231,  247,  285.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  302. 

VAGRANCY  A CT   AMENDMENT  ;  Bill 

the 
Vagrancy  A c t,   1824,  and  to  facilitate  the  establishment 
of  Labour  Colonies;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time,  188.  Second  Reading  deferred,  213,  247. 

to  amend 

• 

purposes  incidental  thereto;  presented,  and  ordered-to 
be  read  a  second  time,  421. 

VEHICULAR  TRAFFIC 

(Regulation   of  Speed); 

to 
secure  the  safety  of  pedestrians,  especially  Children,  in 
public  thoroughfares  in  populous  places;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time, 24.  Second  Reading 
deferred,  35,  36,  58,  88,  190,  281. 

Bill 

V I V I S E C T I ON  (Abolition);  Bill  to  provide  for  the  total 
abolition  of  Vivisection;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be 
read  a  second  time,  61. 

VOLUNTEER  C I V IL   GUARD  (U l s t e r)   ;  B i ll   to   provide  f or 
the  establishment  and  regulation  of  a  Volunteer  Civil 
Guard  in  Ulster;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time,  423. 

V O T ES   a nd   P R O C E E D I N GS   ;  to   be   p r i n t e d,   4. 

VOTERS  (Qualification  and  Registration);  Bill  to  amend 
the  Law  relating  to  the  qualification  and  registration  of 
Voters,  and  for  other  purposes  relating  to  Elections; 
presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  50. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  68,  85. 

VOTES  by  PROXY  ;  Bill  to  abolish  Votes  by  Proxy  at 
meetings  of  incorporated  Companies;  presented,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  187. 

9  Edw.  VIL  Pari. 28°.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

W A K E F I E LD   C O R P O R A T I ON  [Lords] 

;  Report,  That 
the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied 
with,  12.  Brought  from  the  Lords;  read  the  first  time, 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  173.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  186. 
Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  206.  Reported, 
with  Amendments,  253.  Considered,  as  amended,  269. 
Read  tbe  third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments,  275. 
(Cited   as  Wakefield 
To   which  the  Lords  agree,  289. 
Corporation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

WALES,  PRINCE  o f;   His  Consent  given  to  Bills  on 
(as  Duke  of  Corn-

(Private),  184 

Third  Reading 
wall). 

W A L L A S EY   TRAMWAYS  and  IMPROVEMENTS  ;  B i ll   read 
the  first  time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  16. 
Read  a  second  time,  and  committed, 23.  Reported,  with 
Amendments,  79.  Considered,  as  amended,  96.  Read 
the  third  time  and  passed, 102.  Agreed  to  by the  Lords, 
with  Amendments,  266.  Lords'  Amendments  agreed  to, 
275. 
(Cited  as  Wallasey  Tramways  and  Improvements 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

W A N D S W O R TH   B O R O U GH   COUNCIL 

(Superannuation); 
Bill  read  the  first  time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second 
time,  16.  Day  • appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  23. 
Read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  25.  Reported,  with 
Amendments,  53.  Considered,  as  amended,  62.  Read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  69.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords, 
with  Amendments,  163.  Lords'  Amendments  agreed  to, 
(Super-
(Cited   as  Wandsworth  Borough  Council 
167. 
annuation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192. 

W AR   DEPARTMENT  (Sales   of  Land). 

V i de   ACCOUNTS. 

WARWICK  COUNTY 

(Northern 

or  Tamworth  Division) 

W R I T.   V i de   ELECTIONS. 

VAGRANCY  ACT 

(1824)  AMENDMENT;  Bill  to  amend 
section  four  of  the  Vagrancy  A c t,   1824;  and  for  other 

WARWICK  COUNTY  (South  Western  or  Stratfor<l-on-Avon 

Division).  Vide  ELECTIONS. 

VOL.  164. 

Sess.  1909. 4 H 13 

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to  the  ONE  HUNDRED  and  SIXTY-FOURTH  VOLUME.

692 

let,  Waste  Land,  and 

WASTE  LANDS  (Ireland)  IMPROVEMENT  ;  Bill   to  enable 
County  Councils  in  Ireland  to  acquire and  improve,  and 
for  other  purposes 
sell  or 
relating  thereto  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a 
second  time,  24.  Second  Reading  deferred,  75,  92. 
Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  169.  Second 
Reading  deferred,  185. 

WATERFORD  HARBOUR ;  Bill  read  the  first  time,  and 
ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  16.  Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  23.  Second  Reading  deferred,  25, 
31.  Bill  read  a second  time,  and  committed,  84.  Order 
for  Committee  read,  and  discharged  ;  Bill  withdrawn, 
114.	 

. 

WATFORD	  and  EDGWARE  RAILWAY;  Bill  read  the 
first  time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  36.  R e-

port,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired 
into 
complied  with,  97.  Day  appointed  for  Second  Reading, 
108.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  121. 
Reported,  with  Amendments,  and  an  amended  Title, 
219.  Considered,  as  amended,  238.  Read  the  third 
time  and  passed,  245. 

WATFORD  URBAN  DISTRICT  COUNCIL;  B i ll  r e ad 

t he 

first  time,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  16.  

Read  a second  time,  and  committed,  25. 
Instruction   to  

the  Committee,  67.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  from  

the  Local  Legislation  Committee 
(Section  A),  180. 
Considered,  as  amended,  194.  Read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  241.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  with  Amend­
ments,  358.  Lords'  Amendments  (pursuant   to  Order) 
agreed  to,  360. 
(Cited  as  Watford  Urban Distric 

Council Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  382.  


W A YS  AND  MEANS  FOR  RAISING  T HE  S U P P L Y: 
•	 

Resolution,  That  this  House  will, to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee   to  consider  of  the  Ways  and 

Means for raising  the  Supply   to  be  granted  to  His  Majesty,  29. 

— 

Committee  deferred,  33,  41, 44, &c. 

Considered  in  Committee,  38,  71,  132,  138,  143,  151,  157,  160,  169,  174,  177,  181,  453. 

Resolution,  That  this  House  will,  to-morrow,  resolve  itself  into  a  Committee   to  consider  of  the  Ways  and 

Means for  raising  the  Supply   to  be  granted  to  His  Majesty  (Committee  set   up  a  second  time),  418. 

Committee  deferred,  424, 432,  &c.	 

° 

To  have  precedence  of  the  Business  of  Supply,  132,  180. 

That  the  Proceedings   of  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means,  if  under  consideration  at  Eleven  of  the  clock, 
be  not interrupted  under the  Standing  Order  (Sittings   of  the  House),  132,  137  (on  Division),  141  (on  Division),  151 
(on  Division),  156  (on  Division),  169  (on  Division),  174,  180. 

Reports-of  Money  Committees;  Proceedings   to  be  entered  upon  at any hour  after  Eleven,  though  opposed,  and 

not  to  be  interrupted  under  Standing  Order  (Sittings   of  the  House),  32  (on  Division). 

V i de  BUSINESS   o f  t he  HOUSE.  HOUSE. 

That  the  Proceedings  of  the  Committee  of  Ways  and  Means,   if  under  discussion  when  the  Business  is 
postponed  this  day,  be  resumed  and  proceeded  with,  though  opposed,  after  the  interruption   of  Business,  160  (on 
Division). 

Considered  in  Committee;  Motion,  That  the Customs  duties now  charged   on  Tea, &c.  ;  and Motion for  Progress 
a g r e ed   to;   no  Resolution,  138,  141.  Land  Value  Duties;  whereupon  Motion  for  Progress  agreed  to,  157. 
Income 
T a x;  Motion  for Progress;  Chairman  declines   to  propose  the  Question  (abuse   of  Rules);  Question  again  proposed 
(Income  Tax),  and  Motion  for  Progress  agreed  to,  162.  Stamps  ;  Motion  for  Progress  agreed  to,  170.  Further 
proceeding  postponed  in  Committee  at 8.15  (Tea),  143.  Resumed,  and  Resolution   to be  reported,  143. 

Further  proceeding  postponed  in  Committee,  161.  Resumed,  162. 

Death  Duties considered  in  Committee  ;  Motion  for  Progress  agreed  to,  177-8. 

—  Resolutions  reported,  and  agreed  to  ;  Bill  ordered,  41,  78,  357,  203. 

— 

Resolutions  reported  on  a former  day,  and  agreed  upon   on  a later  day  ;  Bill  ordered  (Finance  Bill),  203. 

Amendment  in Committee  on  Finance  Bill  ruled  out   of  order,  473, 

• 

Amendments  made  to  a Resolution  in  Committee,  157. 

V i de  BUSINESS   o f  t he  HOUSE.  HOUSE. 

 
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6 9   3 

W A YS  A ND  M E A NS  F OR  R A I S I N G-  T HE  SUPPLY—continued. 

Subject. 

3  March  : 

For  granting  £910,000  for  the  Service   of  the  year  ending  31st 

March  1909 

22  March  : 

For  granting  £195,405  4s.  lOd. for  the  Service   of  the  years  ending 

31st  March  1908  and  1909	 

For  granting  £48,475,000  for  the  Service   of  the  year  ending 

31st  March  1910 

(Report  deferred,  74.)  


Spirits  (additional  Customs  Duties) 

29  April: 

Spirits  (additional  Excise  Duty) 

-

Tobacco  (alteration  of  Customs  Duties) 

Tobacco  (Ireland)  (alteration  of  Excise  Duty) 

Agreed  to 
in Committee. 

Resolutions Reported, and  

Agreed to. 


Page. 

Page. 


38 

71 

71 

Eesolution  reported  ;  read  a  second 
time,  and,  on  Division,  agreed  to ; 
Bill  ordered,  41.  Vide  CONSOLI­
DATED  FUND  (No.  I )  BILL. 

Eesolutions  reported;  read  a  second 
time,  and  agreed  t o  ;  Bill  ordered, 
78.  Vide CONSOLIDATED  FUND 
(No.  2)  BILL. 

132 

On  Division. 

1 32 

On  Division. 

132 
On  Division. 

133 
On  Division. 

Eesolutions  reported;  First  Resolu­
tion  read  a  second  time;  Amend­
ments proposed, to insert words, and 
withdrawn  ;  Resolution  agreed  to 
on  Division;  Second  Resolution 
read a second time, and, on  Division, 
agreed  to  ;  Third  Resolution  read 
a  second  time;  Amendment  pro­
posed, to insert words, and negatived 
on  Division;  Eesolution  agreed  to 
on Division;  Fourth Resolution read 
a  second  time;  Amendment  pro­
posed, to  leave  out  "  3s.  (id."  and 
insert  "  1 s.  9d."  and  withdrawn  ; 
another  Amendment  proposed,  to 
leave  out  "3s.  6d."  and 
insert 
"  2s.  10d. 
Debate  adjourned  ; 
day  appointed  for  resumption,  and 
further consideration  of  Fifth  Eeso­
lution,  188-9.  Adjourned  Debate 
on  Amendment  resumed;  Question 
put  ;  Amendment  not  made   on 
Division;  Resolution  agreed   to  on 
Division,  192-3.  Fifth  Resolution 
further considered;  Resolution read 
a  second  time;  Amendment  pro­
posed,  to  add  words,  on  Division, 
not  made;  Resolution,  on  Division, 
agreed  to,  193.  Bill  ordered,  203. 
Vide  FINANCE  BILL. 

Resolution  reported;  read  a  second 

time,  and  agreed  to, 201. 

Resolution  reported;  read  a  second 
time,  and  agreed  to  on  Division, 
198-9.  Bill  ordered,  203. 
Vide 
FINANCE  BILL. 

Motor  Spirit  (Customs  and Excise  Duties) 

-

-

-

-	

-

133 

(Report  deferred,  138,  141,  144,  146,  153,  157,  162,  170,  175, 

182.) 

Tea 

5  May  : 

("Report deferred,  146,  153,  158,  162,  170,  175,  182,  189,  193.)  	

10  May: 

Excise  Liquor  Licences  (alteration   of  Duties) 

(Report  deferred,  157,  162,  170,  175,  182,  189,  193.) 

11  May : 

143 
Question  put,  pursuant 
to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate"); 
further 
proceeding 
postponed at  8.15,  and 
resumed. 

claimed 

151-3 
After  Amendment  and 
Motion 
for  Progress 
negatived  on  Division; 
Closure 
on 
Question,  assent  with­
held  ;  Motion  for  Pro­
gress, and Question put, 
pursuant  to  Standing 
Order  (Closure),  and 
negatived  on  Division; 
Main  Question  put, 
pursuant  to  Closure, 
and agreed to on  Divi­
sion. 

Beer  (Customs) 

-

-

-

-

-

-

-	

157 

Duty  in respect  of  Intoxicating  Liquor  supplied   in  Clubs 
(Report  deferred,  162,  170,  175,  183,  119,  193.) 

VOL.  164. 

-Sess.  1909. 

Eesolutions  reported  j  read  a  second 
time,  and  agreed  to,  201.  Bill 
ordered,  203.  Vide  FINANCE 
BILL. 

157 
After Motion for Progress 
negatived  on  Division, 
and Amendment s made 
to the  Eesolution. 

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W A Y  S  A ND  M E A NS  F OR  R A I S I NG  T HE  SUPPLY-confcraKerf. 

Subject. 

12  May: 

Land  Value  Duties 

(Report  deferred,  164,  170, 175,  183,  189,  193.) 

Income  Tax 

17 May 

Income  Tax  (no  exemption  to persons not  ordinarily  resident  in  tbe 
-

United  Kingdom) 

-

-

-

-

-

-

(Report  deferred,  175,  182,  189,  193.) 

Stamps (on  Conveyances  or  Transfers  on  Sale of  Property) 

18  May : 

Stamps  (Conveyances  or  Transfers  as  Voluntary  Dispositions)  


Stamps  (Marketable  Securities)

-

-

-

-

-

Stamps  (Contract  Notes,  Sale  of  Stock,  &c.) 

Stamps  (Contract  Note,  option  to  purchase  or  deal) 


(Report  deferred,  178, 183,  189,  193.) 

Death  Duties 

20  May: 

Death  Duties  (Settlement  Estate  Duty) 

Death  Duties  (Legacy  or  Succession  Duty)  ­

Death  Duties  (Extension  of  period) 

Death  Duties  (Property  Valuation) 

Motor  Cars 

Amendment  of  Law 

(Report  deferred,  189,  193.) 

Agreed to 

in Committee.  


Resolutions Reported, and 

Agreed to. 


Page. 

Resolution  reported  ;  read  a;  econd 
time, and  agreed to on  Division, 198. 
Bill  ordered,  203.  Vide  FINANCE 
BILL. 

Resolutions reported;  First Resolution 
read  a  second  time, and  agreed   to 
on Division;  Second Resolution read 
a  second  time,  and  agreed  to,  201. 
Bill ordered, 203.  Vide  FINANCE 
BILL. 

Resolutions reported  ; First Resolution 
read a  second  time,  and  agreed   to 
on  Division  ;  Second  Resolution 
read  a  second  time,  and  agreed   to 
on  Division;  Third  Resolution  read 
a  second  time,  and  agreed  to  on 
Division  ;  Fourth Resolution read  a 
second  time,  and  agreed to on  Divi­
sion  ; Fifth Resolution read a second 
time,  and  agreed  to  on  Division, 
199-200.  BiU  ordered,  203.  Vide 
FINANCE  BILL. 

Resolutions reported;  First  Resolution 
read  a  second  time,  and  agreed  to 
on  Division  ;  Second  Resolution 
read  a  second  time,  and  agreed  to 
on Division  ;  Third  Resolution read 
a second time, and agreed to on Divi­
sion,  201,  202.  Fourth  Resolution 
read  a  second  time, and  agreed   to 
on  Division  ;  Fifth  Resolution  read 
a  second  time,  and  agreed  to  on 
Division  ;  Sixth  and  Seventh  Reso­
lutions  read  a  second  time,  and 
agreed  to,  203.  Bill  ordered,  203. 
Vide  FINANCE  BILL. 

Page. 

160 
Question  put,  pursuant 
to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate), 
and agreed to ;  Motion 
for  Progress;  Question 
put, pursuant to Stand­
ing  Order  (Closure  of 
Debate),  and  nega­
tived ; further proceed­
ing postponed  at  8.15, 
161.  Resumed  ;  Mem­
ber  moves  Progress; 
Chairman  declines  to 
and 
put  Question, 
Motion 
for  Progress 
agreed to,  162. 

169 
Question  put,  pursuant 
Standing  Order 

to 
(Closure  of  Debate). 

170 

After  Amendment  pro­
posed,  and  not  made; 
Question  put, pursuant 
to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate)  ; 
and  Main  Question 
claimed,  and put,  pur­
suant to  Closure. 

174 
On  Division. 
After  Amendments  pro­

posed, and not made on 
Division. 

174 

On  Division.  


174 

On  Division.  


174 

On  Division.  


174 

On  Division.  


181 

On  Division. 

181 
On  Division. 

181 

On  Division. 

181 
On  Division. 

181 
On  Division. 

182 
Proceeding  postponed  at 
8.15  ;	  resumed,  and 

to. 

182 
On  Division. 

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Subject. 

2  August: 

For  granting  £76,991,102  for  the  Service   of  the  year  ending 

31st  March  1910 

Mineral  Rights  Duty

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

22  September  : 

Increment  Value  Duty   on  Minerals

-

-

-

-

-

-

Estate  Duty  Deductions 

-

-

-

-

-

-

(Report  deferred,  457.) 

Agreed  to 
in Committee. 

Eesolutions Reported, and 
Agreed to. 

Page. 

349 

Page. 

357 
CONSOLIDATED 

Vide 

FUND 

(APPROPRIATION)  BILL. 

453 
Question  put,  pursuant  

to  Standing  Order 
(Closure of  Debate). 

454 
On Division. 

Eesolutions  reported;  First  Eesolu­

tion agreed to on  Division;  Second 
,  Resolution  agreed  to  on  Division ; 
Third Resolution agreed to;  Instruc­
tion  to  Committee on Finance  Bill 
to make provision therein, &c., 460. 

454 

/ 

CONSOLIDATED  FUND  (NO.   1) ;  Bill  to  apply  a  sum  out  of  the  Consolidated  Fund   to  the  Service  of 

the  year 
ending  on  the  thirty-first  day  of  March  one  thousand  nine  hundred  and  nine ;  ordered  to  be  brought  in  upon  a 
Resolution  reported  from  the  Committee   of  Ways  and  Means;  presented,  and read  the first time,  41.  Read  a  second 
time,  and committed,  44.  Considered  in  Committee,  and  reported,  without  Amendment, 48.  Read  the  third  time 
and  passed,  52.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  53. 
Royal  Assent,  58. 

(Cited  as   Consolidated Fund (No.  I)Act,  1909) 

CONSOLIDATED  FUND  (No.  2 );   Bill  to  apply  certain  sums  out  of  the  Consolidated  Fund   to  the  Service   of  the  years 
ending  on the  thirty-first  day  of  March  one  thousand  nine  hundred  aud  eight,  one  thousand  nine  hundred  and  nine, 
and  one  thousand  nine  hundred  and  ten ;  brought  in  upon  Resolutions  reported  from  the  Committee   of  Ways  and 
Means;  presented,  and  read  the  first  time,  78-9.  Proceedings  not   to  be  interrupted  at  Five  nor  half-past  Five   of 
the  clock  on  Friday,  &c.,  80.  Motion,  That  the  Bill   be now  read  a  second  time,  and  at  8.15  proceeding  postponed, 
80.  Resumed;  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  81.  Considered   in  Committee,  and  reported,  without 
Amendment,  83.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  85.  Agreed   to by  the  Lords,  without Amendment,  87. 
(Cited as 
Consolidated Fund (No. 2)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  88. 

CONSOLIDATED  FUND  (Appropriation);  Bill  to  apply  a  sum  out  of  the  Consolidated  Fund  to  the  Service  of  the 
year  ending  on  the  thirty-first  day   of  March  one  thousand  nine  hundred  and  ten,  and  to  appropriate  the 
Supplies  granted  in  this  Session  of  Parliament;  ordered  to  be  brought  in  upon  a  Resolution  reported  from  the 
Committee  of  Ways  and  Means;  presented  accordingly,  and  read  the  first  time,  357.  Read  a  second  time,  and 
committed  to  a  Committee  of  the  whole  House,  359.  Bill  considered   in  Committee,  and  reported,  without  Amend­
ment, 361.  Third  Reading  deferred,  366.  Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed, 379.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords, 
without  Amendment,  380. 

(Cited as Appropriation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  380. 

FINANCE ;  Bill  to  grant  certain  duties  of  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue  (including  Excise),   to  alter  other  duties,  and 
to  amend  the  Law  relating   to  Customs  and  Inland  Revenue  (including  Excise)  and  the  National  Debt,  and   to 
make  other  provisions  for  the  financial  arrangements   of  the  year;  ordered   to  be  brought  in  (26th  May)  upon 
Resolutions of  the  Committee of Ways and Means  reported  and  agreed   to  by  the  House  on  the  24th  and  25th  May, and 
upon  Resolutions  reported  and  agreed  to  on  26th May  ;  presented  accordingly,  and read  the  first  time,  203.  Motion, 
That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a  second  time;  Amendment  proposed,  "three  months;"  Debate  adjourned,  211. 
Resumed,  and  Debate  further  adjourned,  214,  216.  Petition  presented   by  the  Lord  Mayor   of  Dublin  at  the  Bar, 
for alteration  of  the Bill,  217.  Proceedings  on  the Bill  to  take  precedence  this  day  of  Supply  ;  adjourned  Debate 
resumed  ;  Question  p u t;  Amendment  not  made  on Division  ;  Main  Question  put,  and agreed  to;  Bill  read  a  second 
time,  and committed  to a Committee  of  the  whole  House,  219.  Considered  in Committee ;  Question  put,  pursuant  to 
Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate),  242.  Considered   in  Committee  ;  Question  put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate),  246.   No  Tellers  for  the  Noes,  in  two Divisions,  246.  Considered  in  Committee;  Questions 
put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  249,  258.  Considered  in  Committee ;  Questions  put,  pursuant 
to  Standing  Order (Closure  of  Debate)  ;  proceeding  postponed  at 8.15  ;  resumed, 263-4.  Considered in Committee  ; 
Questions  put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate) ;  Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld (twice);  Member 
requested  to  discontinue  his  speech,  267.  Considered  in Committee,  277.  Questions  put,  pursuant to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate),  278,  279 ;  Closure  claimed ;  Chairman  withholds  his  assent, 278.  Chairman  declines   to  propose 
Question  (abuse  of  Rules),  279.  Considered  in  Committee,  and  proceeding  postponed  at  8.15,  283.  Resumed; 
Progress,  284.  Considered  in  Committee,  286.  Considered  in  Committee;  Chairman  puts  Question  forthwith  (abuse 
of  Rules),  295.  Questions  put, pursuant   to  Standing  Order  (Closui-e  of  Debate),  295-6.  Considered   in  Committee; 
Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate);  proceeding  postponed   at  8.15,  300.  Proceeding 
resumed,  300.  Progress, 302.  Considered  in Committee;  Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld  ;  Chairman  calls  attention 
to  disorderly  conduct of  a  Member,  and  directs  him  to  withdraw,  304. 
[Entry  expunged  from  the  Journal,  311.] 
Questions  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate)  (five  times),  303,  304,  305.  Chairman  declines  to 
propose  Question  (abuse   of  Rules),  305.  Considered  in  Committee  ;  Chairman  declines  to  propose  Question  (abuse 

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FINANCE—continued. 

of  Rules),  314.  Questions  put,  pursuant   to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate)  (five  times),  313.  Considered   in 
Committee  ;  Closure  claimed,  assent withheld;  Motion  for  Progress  negatived   on  Division  ;  Questions  put,  pursuant 
to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate)  (six  times),  319-22.  Committee  deferred, 332.  Considered   in  Committee 
Questions  put,  pursuant to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate)  (four  times),  364.  Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld, 
365.  Chair  empowered  to  select  Amendments  (three  times),  365.  Considered  in Committee  ;  Question  put,  pursuant 
to  Standing  Older  (Closure  of  Debate);  Closure  claimed,  assent withheld;  Reason  given  ;  Chair  empowered   to  select 
Amendments,  369.  Considered  in  Committee;  Questions  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate)  (five 
times);  Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld;  Question, That  certain  words  stand  part  of  the  Clause,  put,  pursuant   to 
Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate)  ;  Chair  empowered  to  select  Amendments,  370-3.  Considered  in  Committee; 
Questions  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate)  (twice)  ;  Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld  (twice); 
Chair  empowered  to  select  Amendments,  374-6.  Proceedings   on  Clause  14 not  to  be  interrupted  at  Five  or  half-past 
Five  of  the  clock,  &c., 378.  Bill  considered  in Committee ;  Chair  empowered  to  select  Amendments,  379.  Considered 
in  Committee  ;  Questions  put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate) (three  times);  Main Question  claimed 
(twice);  Chair  empowered   to  select  Amendments (twice),  385.  Considered  in Committee,  389.  Committee  deferred, 
417.  Bill  considered  in  Committee, 418.  Considered  in  Committee;  Motion,  That  the Chairman   do  report  Progress, 
negatived  on Division, 421.  Considered  in Committee  ;  Questions put, pursuant to Standing  Order (Closure  of  Debate) 
(three  times), 422.  Considered  in  Committee  ;  Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld ;  Motion  for  Progress  negatived   on 
Division  ;  Questions put, pursuant to Standing  Order (Closure  of Debate) (five times), 425-7.  Considered  in Committee, 
429.  Considered in  Committee  :  Question  put,  pursuant to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate),  430.  Considered  in 
Committee;  Questions  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure  of  Debate)  (twice), 435.  Considered  in  Committee  j 
Motion  for  Progress  withdrawn;  Closure  claimed,  assent withheld, 438.  Considered   in  Committee;  Question  put, 
pursuant to  Standing Order  (Closure   of  Debate);  Closure  claimed,  assent  withheld, 447-8.  Considered  in  Committee, 
449,  452.  Considered  in  Committee;  Questions  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate) (three  times), 
455-7.  Considered  in  Committee ;  Chairman  declines to  propose  Question  (abuse of  Rules)  (twice) ;  Closure  claimed, 
assent  withheld ;  Question  put,  pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate),  458. 
Instruction   to  Committee  on 
the  Bill  to  make  provision  therein  pursuant  to  Resolutions  reported  from  Committee   of  Ways  and  Means,  461.  Bill 
considered  in  Committee  ;  Question  put, pursuant  to  Standing  Order  (Closure   of  Debate),  461, 463.  Considered   in 
Committee,  466,  469,  471.  Considered  in  Committee  ;  Schedule  amended;  Question  put,  pursuant   to  Standing 
Order  (Closure  of  Debate);  Chairman  rules  Amendment  out  of  order, 472-3.  Considered  in  Committee  ;  Amend­
ments  proposed  to  Schedule,  not  made ;  Closure  claimed,  assent withheld;  Question  put, pursuant   to  Standing  Order 
(Closure  of  Debate),  474.  Considered  in  Committee;  Schedules  agreed  t o;  amended,  and  agreed  t o;  Bill   to  be 
reported,  476—8.  Order  for  consideration,  as  amended,  read  ;  Motion,  That  the  Bill  be  recommitted  in  respect  of 
Clause  1 ;  Question  negatived  on  Division  ;  Bill  considered;  Amendments  made;  further  consideration  adjourned, 
489.   A s  amended,  further  considered  (Message  by  Black  Rod),  491.   A s  amended,  further  considered,  494.   A s 
amended,  further  considered,  498.   As  amended,  further  considered,  500.   As  amended,  further  considered;  Amend­
ments  to  proposed  Amendments,  as  amended,  made,  not  made,  and  withdrawn,  502-4.   As  amended,  further 
considered,  505,  509.   A s  amended,  further  considered  ;  day  appointed  for  Third  Reading,  and   to  be  printed,  511. 
Motion,  That  the  Bill  be  now  read  the  third  time ;  Amendment  proposed,  "  three  months  ;"  Debate  adjourned,  524. 
Resumed,  and  further  adjourned,  526.  Resumed;  Question  p u t;  Amendment,   on  Division,  not  made;  Bill  read  the 
third  time and  passed,  528. 

(Cited as  Wells  Gas  


T o  which  the  Lords  agree,  192. 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192.  


WELSH  COLLEGES  COMMITTEE.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

W E E DS  a nd  AGRICULTURAL  SEEDS  (I r e l a n d );  B i ll

W E E K LY  R E S T - D AY   ;  Bill  to  secure  a Weekly  Rest-Day; 
presented,  and  ordered to be  read  a second  time,  143. 

t o 
prevent  the  spread  of  noxious  Weeds  in  Ireland,  and  to 
make  provision  for  the  testing   of  agricultural  Seeds;  

presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  359. 
Second  Reading  deferred, 367,  382,  397, 400,  403,  406.  W E M B U RY  (Plymouth)  COMMERCIAL  DOCK  and  R A I L-
Read  a second  time ;  Bill  committed   to  a  Committee  of 
WAY  [Lords];  Report,  That  the  Bill  should  originate 
the  whole  House,  409.  Considered  in  Committee,  and 
in  the  House   of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing  Orders 
reported,  413.  Considered,  as  amended;  read  the  third 
certified to  have  been  complied  with,  12. 
time  and  passed, 417.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  with 
Amendments  ;  day  appointed  for  considering  them,  and  W E ST  A F R I C A.   Vide  ACCOUNTS. 
to  be  printed,  500.  Lords'  Amendments  agreed  to, 
504. 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  539. 

(Cited  as  Weeds and  Agricultural  Seeds  (Ireland)W E ST  GLOUCESTERSHIRE  W A T ER   ;  Bill  read  the  first
time,  and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  16.  Report, 
Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied 
with,  43.  Day  appointed 
for  Second  Reading,  57. 
Second  Reading  deferred,  6 J,  65.  Bill  read  a  second 
time,  and committed;  Instruction  to  the  Committee,  67. 
Attendance  of  Witness  ordered,  82.  Bill  reported,  with 
Amendments,  94.  Considered,  as amended,  102.  Read 
the  third  time  and  passed,  186.  Agreed  to  by  the 
Lords,  with  Amendments,  312.  Lords'  Amendments 
agreed  to,  324. 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

WELLS  GAS  [Lords];  Report,  That  the  Bill  should 
originate  in  the  House   of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing 
Orders certified to have been complied with,  12.  Brought 
from  the  Lords;  read  the  first  time,  and  referred   to  W E ST  HIGHLAND  R A I L W AY  (Extension 
the  Examiners,  126.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not 
previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  136.  Standing 
Orders  204  and  235 suspended;  Bill  read  a second  time;  W E ST  KENT  ELECTRIC  POWER   [Lords] ;  Report,  That 
Standing  Orders  211  and  236  suspended;  Committee 
the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10. 
on  Bill  to  sit  and  proceed  forthwith,  159.  Reported, 
Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied 
with  Amendments,  163.  Considered,  as  amended,  172. 
with,  12.  Brought  from the  Lords  ;  read  the  first  time, 
Read  the third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments,  184. 
and  referred  to  the  Examiners,  187.  Report,  Standing 

W E E K LY  R E S T - D AY  LEGISLATION  (Miscellaneous,  No.   3, 

W E I G H TS  and  MEASURES  A C T.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

to Mallaig).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

1909).  Yide  ACCOUNTS. 

Banavie

from 

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[Lords]—continued. 

Orders  not  previously  inquired  into  complied  with,  275. 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  294.  Bill 
Considered,  as 
reported,  with  Amendments,  331. 
amended;  Standing  Orders  223  and  243  suspended; 
Bill  read  the  third  time  and  passed, with  Amendments, 
(Cited  as West 
346.   To  which  the  Lords  agree,  361. 
Kent Electric Power Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

WESTMINSTER  CITY  COUNCIL 

(Superannuation, 

Sfc.) 
[Lords]  ;  Report,  That  the  Bill  should  originate   in  the 
House  of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified 
to  have  been  complied  with,  13.  Brought  from  the 
Lords ;  read the first time, and referred  to the Examiners, 
80.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired 
into  complied  with,  93.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  108.  Second  Reading  deferred,  136,  142,  150. 
Motion,  That  the  Bill   be  now  read  a  second  time; 
Amendment  proposed,  "  six  months,"  and  withdrawn; 
Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  committed,  164.  Bill 
reported,  with  Amendments,  270. 
Considered,  as 
amended, 306.  Day  appointed  for  Third  Reading,  311. 
Bill  read  the third  time  and  passed,  with  Amendments, 
318.   To  which  the  Lords  agree,  334. 
(Cited  as 
Westminster  City  Council  (Superannuation  and  Pensions) (Group  3),  137,  151. 
Act, 1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

WITNESSES  : 

WIRRAL  RAILWAY (Extension of  Time) [Lords] ;  Report, 
That  the  Bill  should  originate  in  the  House  of  Lords, 
10.  Report,  Standing  Orders  certified  to  have  been 
complied  with,  13.  Bill  brought  from  the  Lords ;  read 
the  first  time,  and  referred  to  . the  Examiners,  87. 
Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously  inquired  into 
complied  with,  97.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  com­
mitted,  108.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  132.  Con­
sidered,  as  amended,  139.  Read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  with  Amendments,  147.   To  which  the  Lords 
agree,  163. 
(Cited  as  Wirral  Railway  (Extension  of 
Time) Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  192. 

WITHDRAWAL   of  a  MEMBER  ;  Entry  (14th  J u ly  1909) 
relating  to  the  disorderly  conduct  of  a  Member,  who 
was  ordered  to  withdraw  immediately  from  the.  House, 
expunged  from  the  Journals,  pursuant   to  the  Order 
of  the  House,  311.  Vide  MEMBERS. 

Sessional  Resolution,  4. 

of  Witness  ordered, 
Private  Bills  (Group  A ),  82,  148,  176.  Railway  Bills 

Attendance 

; 

Attendance 
Local  Legislation  Committee  (Section  B),  87,  252. 

of  Witness  ordered, 

W H I S KY  and 

o t h er  POTABLE  SPIRITS 

(Royal 

Com­

mission).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

W H I S KY   in  BOND  (Scotland).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

WHITTINGTON'S,  SIR RICHARD,  CHARITY ;  Bill  to  confirm 
a  Scheme  of  the  Charity  Commissioners  for  the  manage­
ment of  the  Charity  of  Sir  Richard  Whittington,  under 
the  management  of  the  Mercers'  Company   of  the  City 
of  London  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be read  a  second 
time,  70.  Second  Reading  deferred,  85,  87,  119,  131, 
134,  135,  147,  158,  165.  Read  a  second  time,  and 
committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  183.  B,  186. 
Fifteen  Members  added  in  respect  of  the  Bill,  192. 
Bill  reported,  without  Amendment,  222.  Consideration 
(not  amended) deferred, 230.  Considered  (not  amended), 
237.  Read  the  third  time  and  passed,  239.  Agreed 
to	  by  the  Lords,  without  Amendment,  463. 
(Cited as 
Whittington Charity  Scheme  Confirmation  Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  491. 

W I LD  ANIMALS   in  CAPTIVITY  PROTECTION 

(Scotland)-,
Bill  to  extend  the  Wild  Animals  in  Captivity  Protection 
Act,  1900,  to  Scotland;  ordered  ;  presented  accordingly, 
and  read  the  first  time,  359.  Day  appointed  for  Second 
Reading,  380.  Read  a  second  time;  Bill  committed 
to  a  Committee  of  the whole  House,  395.  Considered 
in  Committee,  and  reported,  without  Amendment;  Bill 
read  the  third  time  and passed,  420.  Agreed   to  by  the 
Lords,  with  an  Amendment,  494.  Day  appointed  for 
consideration,  and  to  be  printed,  505.  Lords'  Amend­
ment  considered,  and  agreed  to,  510. 
(Cited  as  Wild 
Animals in  Captivity Protection (Scotland)  Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  539. 

W I LD  BIRDS  PROTECTION   ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Wild 

Birds  Protection  Acts,  1880   to  1904;  presented,  and  

ordered  to  be  read  a second  time,  255.  Second  Reading  

deferred,  268,  273,  282,  285,  288,  291,  299,  309,  318,  

327,  329,  333,  335,  341,  352,  358,  362,  368,  377,  384,  

395. 

W I N ES  IMPORTED.  V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

Message to  the  Lords  requesting  the 
attendance  of  a  Peer  before  a  Committee  on  Group   of 
Railway  Bills,  299.  Leave  given,  307. 

WOMEN  a nd  CHILDREN   i n  PUBLIC-HOUSES 

(Ireland).

Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

WOMEN'S  ENFRANCHISEMENT ;  Bill  to  enable  Women  to 
vote  at  Parliamentary  Elections  ;  presented,  and  ordered 
to  be  read  a second  time,  65.  Second  Reading  deferred, 
72,  185. 

WOMEN'S  ENFRANCHISEMENT  (NO.  2 );  Bill   to  enable 
Women  to  vote  at  Parliamentary  Elections  ;  presented, 
and  ordered  to  be  read  a  second  time,  99. 

WOODS,  FORESTS,   and  L A ND  REVENUES.  

Vide 

ACCOUNTS. 


WORKMEN'S  COMPENSATION ;  Bill  to  amend  the  Work-


men's  Compensation  Act,  1906  ;  presented,  and  ordered  

to  be  read  a  second  time,  24.  Second  Reading  deferred,  

45,  97,  135,  146, 213,  282.  


WORKMEN'S  COMPENSATION  (Anglo-French  Convention) ; 
Bill  to  authorise  the  making of  such  modifications  in  the 
Workmen's  Compensation  Act,  1906,   in  its  application 
to  French  citizens,  as  may  be  necessary  to  give  effect  to 
a  Convention  between  His  Majesty  and  the  President 
of  the  French  Republic;  presented,  and  ordered   to  be 
read  a  second  time,  392.  Second  Reading  deferred,  400. 
Read  a  second  time  ;  Bill  committed   to  a  Committee 
of  the  whole  House,  403.  Considered  in  Committee, 
and  reported,  without  Amendment,  407.  Read  the  third 
time  and  passed, 408.  Agreed   to  by  the  Lords,  without 
(Cited  as  Workmen's  Compensation
Amendment,  465. 
(Anglo-French  Convention)  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 
491. 

WORKMEN'S 

COMPENSATION 

A C T, 

1 9 0 6. 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 


WORKMEN1S  COMPENSATION 

f or  ACCIDENTS 

(Miscel­

laneous,  No.  8,  1909).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

W I N T ER 

ASSIZES 

ACTS, 

1876 

a nd 

1877. 

V i de 

ACCOUNTS. 

W I N T ER  ASSIZES  (Ireland). 

V i de  ACCOUNTS. 

WORKSOP  WATER  [Lords];  Report,  That  the Bill should 
originate  in  the  House  of  Lords,  10.  Report,  Standing 
Orders  certified  to  have  been  complied  with,  13. 

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Brought from the Lords  5  read  the first time,  and  referred 
to  tlie  Examiners,  115.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not 
previously  inquired 
into  not  complied  with,  referred 
to  the  Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders,  121. 
Report  from  Select  Committee  on  Standing  Orders, 
Standing  Orders to be  dispensed with  ;  parties  to  proceed 
with  iheir  Bill,  156.  Report  r e a d;   Bill  to  be  read  a 
secojad  time,  156.  Bill  read  a  second  time,  and  com-
m i t t e d,   168.  Reported,  with  Amendments,  191.  Con-
s i d e r e d,   as  amended,  206.  Read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  with  Amendments,  210.  To   which  the  Lords 
agree,  258. 
(Cited  as  Worksop  Waterworks  Act,  1909) 
Royal  Assent,  381. 

W O R T L EY   C O N G R E G A T I O N AL   C H A P EL   C H A R I TY   ;  B i ll 
to  confirm  a  Scheme  of  the  Charity  Commissioners  for 
the  management  of  the  Charity  consisting  of  the  Bethel 
Congregational  Chapel  and  Trust  Property  at  Wortley, 
in  the  City  of  Leeds  ;  presented,  and  ordered  to  be  read 
a  second  time,  70.  Second  Reading  deferred,  86,  87, 
119,  131,  134,  136,  147,  158,  165.  Read  a  second  time, 
and  committed  to  a  Standing  Committee,  183.  B,   186. 
Fifteen  Members  added  in  respect  of  the  Bill,  192.  Bill 
reported,  without  Amendment,  222.  Consideration  (not 
amended)  deferred,  231.  Considered  (not amended),  237. 
Third  Reading  deferred.  239,  244,  250,  281,  298,  317, 
329,  351,  377,  383,  394,  400.  Bill  read  the  third  time 
and  passed,  403.  Agreed  to  by  the  Lords,  without 
Congregational 
Amendment,  463. 
Chapel  Scheme  Confirmation  Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent, 

(Cited   as  Wortley 

.  491. 

W R I T S.   Y i de   ELECTIONS. 

9  Edw.  VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

YORKSHIRE  REGISTRIES  AMENDMENT 

[L o r d s]   J  B i l l, 
intituled  An   A ct   to amend  the  Yorkshire  Registries  A c t, 
1884;  brought  from  the  Lords,  414.  Read  the  first 
time,  418. 

Y O RK   TOWN  and  BLACKWATER  G AS   (E l e c t r ic   Lighting, 
8fc.);  Bill  read  the 
first  time,  and  referred  to  the 
Examiners,  16.  Report,  Standing  Orders  not  previously 
inquired  into  complied  with,  20.  Read  a  second  time, 
Report  from  Select  Committee 
and  committed,  31. 
on  Standing  Orders,  on  Petition  for  dispensing  with 
Standing  Order  128,  That  the  Standing  Order  ought 
to  be  dispensed  with,  34.  Reported,  with  Amendments  ; 
Title  amended,  129.  Considered,  as  amended,  139. 
King's  Consent  signified;  Bill  read  the  third  time  and 
passed,  147.  Agreed  to by  the Lords, with  Amendments, 
(Cited   as 
258.  Lords'  Amendments  agreed  to,  268. 
York  Town  and  Blackwater  Gas  (Electric  Lighting,  Sfc.) 
Act,  1909)  Royal  Assent,  381. 

9  Edw. 

VII.  Pari. 28.  Sess. 4.  1909. 

ZETLAND 

S I CK  

[Lords] 

M A S O N IC  

a nd   W I D O WS  

a nd 
O R P H A NS   F U ND   O R D ER   C O N F I R M A T I ON  
> 
Bill,  intituled  An   A ct   to  confirm  a  Provisional  Order 
under the  Private  Legislation  Procedure  (Scotland)  A c t, 
1899,  relating  to  the  Zetland  Masonic  Sick  and  Widows 
the  Lords,  and 
and  Orphans  Fund  j  brought 
ordered  (under  Section  7  of  the  A c t)   to  be considered  on 
day  named,  49.  Considered,  56.  Read  the  third  time 
( Cited  as  Zetland 
and  passed,  without  Amendment,  57. 
Masonic  Sick  and  Widows  and  Orphans  Fund  Order 
Confirmation  Act,  1909)  R o y al   Assent,  88. 

from 

Y ^ O RK  

C O U N T Y,  
Division).  Vide  ACCOUNTS. 

N O R TH  

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