who was the last person to be punished at the bar of parliament. a newspaper guru i think
I think this is a good demonstration that it was not done in the regular courts, so its good evidence that the Parliamentary papers act would have been in effect therefore actually it was parliament not the Court where to answer. This could be good evidence that peoples YouTube Channels and websites in the UK when for "matters & Causes to parliament should be similarly under the jurisdiction even if they don't have a petition themselves. Based on subject matter.
I think this is a good demonstration that it was not done in the regular courts, so its good evidence that the Parliamentary papers act would have been in effect therefore actually it was parliament not the Court where to answer. This could be good evidence that peoples YouTube Channels and websites in the UK when for "matters & Causes to parliament should be similarly under the jurisdiction even if they don't have a petition themselves. Based on subject matter. Its the Subject area. clearly it was independent covered and opinion.. but political causes that actually are to parliament are even more relevant
I think this is a good demonstration that it was not done in the regular courts, so its good evidence that the Parliamentary papers act would have been in effect therefore actually it was parliament not the Court where to answer. This could be good evidence that peoples YouTube Channels and websites in the UK when for "matters & Causes to parliament should be similarly under the jurisdiction even if they don't have a petition themselves. Based on subject matter. Its the Subject area. clearly it was independent covered and opinion.. but political causes that actually are to parliament are even more relevant. In America they had to invent the CDA section 230 to get around constitutional material being removed
I think this is a good demonstration that it was not done in the regular courts, so its good evidence that the Parliamentary papers act would have been in effect therefore actually it was parliament not the Court where to answer. This could be good evidence that peoples YouTube Channels and websites in the UK when for "matters & Causes to parliament should be similarly under the jurisdiction even if they don't have a petition themselves. Based on subject matter. Its the Subject area. clearly it was independent covered and opinion.. but political causes that actually are to parliament are even more relevant. In America they had to invent the CDA section 230 to get around constitutional material being removed. you need to learn something agent https://www.bentcop.biz/curated.html as i think you aren't grasping the principles i am trying to explain to you
you really ate your own words there right in the opening part.
you really ate your own words there right in the opening part. "Parliament’s Jurisdiction is Penal, Not Protective". that is your critical blindside. error and mistake that shows a total failure in logic. "Parliaments jurisdiction". you admitted the jurisdiction. then you proceed to attempt to claim it exists only for parliament itself. on that basis if it were a magistrates court nobody would be using it for daily buisness. prosecution or defence for any party. it would be there just to protect its self. anyone insulting the court. it wouldn't be there to manage buisness from and plaintiff, prosecutor or defendant's under its jurisdiction... or witness appeals... parliament is not there for itself. staff MPs. they are bringing cases from the public causes solicited. which is exactly what the material is in the link. Junor in that situation is equivalent of someone breaking a press ban or other publishing offence. but not under cognisance of that magistrates or crown court but of parliament.
the 1840 act was meant to actually defend the political matters from court challenge. but the issue is that now Big platforms don't go into courts. they self police and nobody actually can afford court anyway. they don't NEED courts for the billions of users they moderate or remove or punish. If they were in court they would loose. Because of the 1840 act shut down. The Problem is that parliament is not actually backing up anyone at all. parliament adverts involved Clerk of the Peace actually under the Seditious Meetings act. for registration. Now there is no recognition left. actually The CrewKern Gazette channel in theory could be put through the same treatment that Junor was. for the Political satire. actually the channel was demonetized. but later restored. Parliament and Particularly Lord Toby free speech Union.. defended the channel. it involves the conduct of members. This is outstanding evidence that parliament just actually has gone very casual with its own integrity... while not using the Jurisdiction at all. Yet when the platforms themselves ban or remove people or 3rd parties... parliament are leaving everyone to fend for themselves. EVEN FOR PETITION ADVERTISING AND CAUSES (Big Brother Watch for example) this is where the 1840 act would have had its actual hotspot. but, due to certain developments such as internet and digital media.... people actually don't go to court because people cannot afford it and parliament is the court really. i think Donald Trump the other day was quoted saying that The AI companies could self police. but that's what YouTube and Facebook are doing. but in England they aren't actually upholding recognising political rights here. their policy is King. is the only law. the Government is not standing up for petitioners. because its not even using its own authority against the CrewKern Gazette as it did to Junor. Lord Toby even backed it up, but any member could object. (Charles Shaw principal) to a publication. the Platforms removed one David Davis MP video I think, but it was restored.. they Will not take big brother watch down because they are supported by Lord Strasburger and David Davis.. but other campaigns are relying on the Court if challenged... free Ppeech Union etc.. when political it's actually meant to be fought in the court. (the point in the 1840 act) this is why i am complaining to Alberto Costa MP because the privileges committee aren't doing anything
i don't know about public outcry but for shure.. he did talk about it in an interview. please let me put this to you .... if it was 1957 now. and CrewKern Gazette were doing these heavy political satire, to this current new extent (rather than the cartoon sketches that the press used to do) featuring heavy criticism of MPs even in parliament... not just the channel but YouTube itself, Facebook would have been summoned to the Bar as well as the Channel creator!!!!!! for even publishing it online. this is exactly what section 230 in the States prevents by not treating the platform as the publisher. not for civil in courts. BUT because Contempt of parliament is a crime and breach of privilege not civil suit or suing someone.. or copyright.. the section 230 wouldn't actually work anyway because it doesn't protect YouTube from a crime. mainly only civil action. but we don't even have the CDA act anyway in the United Kingdom. if it has been 1957 with all these insults and behaviour in the Chamber... there is no doubt that William Morrison would have had the entire lot of them in at the Bar... the attitude in 1957 wouldn't have been relaxed enough to allow what the CreeKern Gazette are doing now. MPs won't object under the Charles Shaw principal of insult to conduct.... mainly as its actually not even true accounting. or real evidence or case. either way it is drawing it directly under parliament Jurisdiction.
it was actually this Charles Shaw precedent i mean "When the conduct of a Member of this House is impugned it is the rule to ask the Honourable Member, whether he objects to the printing of the petition until an opportunity has been afforded him of explanation." — Speaker Shaw Lefevre, page 265, re: Captain Boldero & Mr. Bonham ◆ This is confirmed independently by Alpheus Todd, in "Parliaments & Government in England 1887", who records that in 1861, a petition from Mr. Irwin against MP Mr. Lever was ordered printed and circulated to all Members. ◆ Together these establish: a citizen could formally impugn an MP via petition, have it printed and distributed to Parliament, and the MP had to justify himself — a remarkable constitutional accountability mechanism." - the problem is that Daniel Greenberg is actually allowing MPs to have election material on their channels... Parliament MP channels and we did an investigation that this actually is against election law, but they are being protected. (You couldn't have a labour advert on the parliament telephone system for example) but its all over the MP social media.. so election law is actually allowing MPs to break the law whilst ignoring the Parliament jurisdiction for political campaigns... and giving it over to the platform as their own jurisdiction.. because political was never really the court justification anyway... (1840 act) i mean if the Junor was malicious it could go in court anyway for a 3rd party... but that is if it mentions a 3rd party in the political coverage. when it was malicious against a member...they didn't sue in the court they had them in directly under contempt.
i think that because MPs themselves are getting on the news... they don't actually need the public and public campaigns... over 95% of law is getting passed quietly SIs negative procedure.. only the big causes count. Tommy Robinson... Extinction Rebellion and other big cause have actually been prosecuted just for their activities.. everyone is on social media now. you need to be able to operate to even get attention. hut because of populism now.... its a huge fight for attention. and MPs are getting a spotlight on news... its putting every else in the gutter or burried in comments.. which is why the adverts were so important in the 1950s and 1800s. but because public independent causes are worthless now... to parliament and They put petitions on their own website vetted... parliament actually has zero incentive to protect independent petition campaigns or causes or investigation outside change org or 38 degrees even remove petitions when they don't have ant authority or jurisdiction either. actually the 1661 Tumultuous petition act and Seditious meeting acts were good because you had these court involvement in preliminary proceedings to actually declare and record you had a matter to parliament. that it was such. by Clerk of Peace or by consent by jury.... you had actually paperwork attached. so when you had your privileges infringement... there was more incentive for parliament to act and we could use the Bar. Further.... have people summoned. you could have YouTube summoned. or Facebook for contempt. the only thing petitioners were getting prosecuted for in the 1800s was Sedition and not following those registration requirements!!! unlawful assembly etc.. now that the requirements are abolished we aren't even having the jurisdiction recognised at all. parliament is actually only bothered about its own commitment evidence and investigations. they don't even believe petition should exist now outside it's own digital platforms... which is actually a very very important contradictor... because on one hand they are vetting all e petition very strictly. now allowing anything radical... but on the other hand totally failing to have CrewKern Gazette called to the Bar. which actually is the BIGGEST hipocracy and contradictor.... they just don't want the privileges of parliament to exist. no matter if its working for or against them. they don't want it. only when its breaking election law they actually use it to protect themselves and keep themselves in government.
do you think 1957 was around the time political sketches in the newspapers took off? i was just wondering that in thr 1800s you actually couldn't do that due to Sedition. even Spitting image the TV show would have been pushing the boundaries. they had Theatre but they had to be very careful usually it was past historical monarchy when satire. i wonder if we could actually track the political Satire sketch legacy to that incident because there aren't anything like it in the 1800s press.
yes but MPs always had the right to call it out as a breach of privilege.... if it was allegatory in nature... that is what im saying... even if they didn't... they could.
the Matt Hancock V Andrew Bridgen case is a classic example of where we are now in social media and why the 1840 act is still relevant
so how can any petitioner hope to their right of privileges usage when these huge platforms already have their own effective privileges. in fact Airports now their protection from civil claims... its more protection than parliament has. literally Airports could kill people with noise distress and not be sued... parliament abolished civil protection for its members at the end of the 1600s it was being used to evade debts.... yet now private businesses who only exist for profit.. have more protection than MPs... true they might provide infrastructure but can they harm and kill people for the sake of providing travelling... ... when members of the public are getting speeding tickets on empty roads for 2mph over the limits.... Airports are causing a breach of the peace with unbearable noise. and even selling flights for peanuts cost... reckless environment disruption
investigative channel like the Crewkerne Gazette 😌 its not investigative 😏


