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CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.

SESSIONS PAPER.

WINCHESTER, MAYOR.

ELEVENTH SESSION, HELD SEPTEMBER 21, 1835.

MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,

Taken in Short-hand,

BY HENRY BUCKLER.

LONDON:

GEORGE HEBERT, CHEAPSIDE.

W. TYLER, PRINTER, BOLT COURT, FLEET STREET.

1835.

THE

WHOLE PROCEEDINGS

On the King's Commission of the Peace,

OYER AND TERMINER, AND GAOL DELIVERY,

FOR

The City of London,

AND GAOL DELIVERY FOR THE

COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION

OF THE

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.

Before the Right Honourable HENRY WINCHESTER , LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Sir John Gurney , Knt., one of the Barons of His Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir James Williams, Knt., one of the Justices of His Majesty's Court of King's Bench; Sir Claudius Stephen Hunter, Knt.; John Atkins, Esq.; William Venables, Esq.; and John Key, Esq.; Aldermen of the said City of London; the Honourable Charles Ewan Law, Recorder of the said City; William Taylor Copeland, Esq.; Thomas Kelly, Esq.; John Cowan, Esq.; Samuel Wilson , Esq.; Sir Chapman Marshall, Knt.; Thomas Johnson, Esq.; John Pirie, Esq.; and Thomas Wood, Esq.; Aldermen of the said City of London; John Mirehouse, Esq., Common Sergeant of the said City; and William St. Julien Arabin, Sergeant at Law; His Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer, and Gaol Delivery of New gate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.

LIST OF JURORS .

First Jury

William Whitton

Robert Pledge

William Gearey

George Tooting Everett

Charles Hall

Edward Herbert

William Snow

Jesse Hill

Francis Harris

William Geddes

John Blackhall

Thomas Innocent

Second Jury.

George William Grigg

Arthur Gurney

William Lainson

William Law Kitchen

William Godwin

Joseph Gibson King

Benjamin King King

Edward Collier

William George George

Richard White

James Holdsworth

Valetine Owen

Third Jury.

John Peter M'Neill Wiley

William Clark

Alfred Chandler

Abraham Landen

Thomas Lewis

Thomas Hayward

Henry Holland

Thomas Corney

John Herbert

William Craig Lawrence

Charles Wilson

William Ifold

Fourth Jury.

William Powell

Edward Ingram

John Bull

William Henbury

Richard Green

John Green

George White

Thomas Cox

Benjamin King

George William Gregg

William George

James Green

Fifth Jury.

George Hitchinson

George Head

William Little

George Hammer

William Grace

Henry Samuel Crane

William Gwatkin

John Gray

Thomas Dalby

Charles Chamberlain

Thomas Robert Gooding

Joseph Hardy

Sixth Jury.

Thomas Wontner Smith

Thomas Keasley

Barnabas Bowles

Robert Nichol

William Carter

Henry Hargrave Boone

John Chester

Thomas Wells

John Hutton

Thomas Jones

James Hakes

Robert Drummond

Seventh Jury.

William Howell

William Ginbury

Thomas Kendall

Richard Green

James Gutherie

Thomas Bellmoor

George Jones

John Green

Joseph John Colby

George White

Thomas Cox

John Clements

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT .

WINCHESTER, MAYOR .— ELEVENTH SESSION .

A star (*) denotes that the prisoner has been previously in custody—An obelisk (†); that the prisoner is known to be the associate of bad characters.

CAPITAL CONVICTIONS .

Third Jury, before Mr. Sergent Arabin.

1927. ROBERT LAVENDER was indicted for burglariously break ing and entering the dwelling-house of Mary Ann Rose , about the hour of ten, in the night of the 22nd of August , at St. Bridget, alias St. Bridge , with intent to steal, and stealing therein 4 cigar-tubes, value 12 s ., the goods of the said Mary Ann Rose ; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— DEATH . Aged 43.

Third Jury, before Mr. Baron Gurney.

1928. DAVID WARD and BENJAMIN VINES were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of James Cross , about the hour of eight, in the night of the 9th of September , at St. Leonard, Shoreditch , with intent to steal, and stealing therein 2 1/4 yards of kerseymere, value 13 s .; and 1 yard and one-eighth of silk, value 10 s .; the goods of the said James Corss.

STEPHEN ROBERTS . I am an apprentice to Mr. James Corss, a tailor and draper, who lives at No. 49, High-street, in the parish of St. Leonard, Shoreditch. On the 9th of September, in the evening, I was in the shop, and discovered, about nine o'clock, that something had been done to the win dow—I found it had been broken, and a piece of silk gone, and a piece of kerseymere, about four inches, out of a hole in the window; it was removed from the place where it had been in the window; but was only partly through the hole—I had seen the window at six o'clock—It was then whole, and the silk and kerseymere were in the window—It was a yard and one-eighth of silk, worth 10 s .—the kerseymere measured two yards and a quarter, and was worth 13 s . 6 d .

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. Had you been in the shop all the afternoon? A. Yes—Mr. Corss is not here—he has no partner—his Christian name is James—I was employed about four or five yards from the window—I saw the window at six o'clock, but did not observe it again till nine o'clock—no other person was in the shop between six and nine o'clock—my master was out of town—nobody came in to give me information—nobody came in unless they were customers—I observed the silk at six o'clock, but not afterwards—I cannot recollect whether cus tomers had come into the shop between six o'clock and the time I noticed the window—we frequently have customers.

WILLIAM SAVAGE . I am a policeman. On the evening of the 9th

of September I was in shoreditch, on the opposite side of the way to Mr. Corss, and saw the prisoner Ward, with his left hand, deliberately working at the bottom of the window, at the third pane glass—the other prisoner was standing on his left, close to him—I then saw them go away—they came again; and the third time they came, I saw the prisoner Ward's hand the same way as before, working away with his left hand, and all in the moment I saw them both run away together across the road—I and my brother-officer crossed the road to the shop, and found a piece had been taken out of the window—I went in pursuit of the prisoners, but saw nothing of them that evening—I saw about four inches of a piece of cloth of this description sticking out of the hole of the window—I was observing them from about half-past seven o'clock until a quarter or half-past eight o'clock—next evening I was on duty again in Shoreditch, and about a quarter to seven o'clock I met them coming towards the shop together, and with the assistance of my brother-officer I took them into custody—I knew Ward before—I have a small recollection of him. but I cannot say I recollect the other before—I saw both of them so as to be quite certain of them—there are gas-lights there—I took the prisoners into Corss's shop.

Cross-examined Q. You had been watching them from about seven o'clock? A. Yes; it was quite evident they were attempting to commit an offence—they attempted another shop before—It was impossible for me to tell what they were going about—I thought it best to let them do it, and then take them—when we know what their intention is, we prevent it undoubtedly—had I known his intention was such, I should have taken him before, but it was impossible for me to say.

Q. Were not you and your companion lying about on purpose to have a felony committed, that you might take them? A. We are sent out on purpose in coloured clothes to pich up what we can regarding that, for two months past—I do not know that the Policeman'a allowance used to be paid to the head establishment—I always received it myself, here or at the station-house—I believe there has been an alteration lately—It comes directly into the Policeman's hands now—I always received it myself—we have received it here and afterwards at the station-house, and now I understand we are to receive it here again—that is all the alteration that I know of.

GEORGE TEAKLE . I am a policeman. I was with savage at about half-past seven o'clock—I saw the prisoners go to Mr. Corss' shop—they both stood close together—I saw Ward's hand working, as if he was cutting or boring something, but they stood so close together, I could not see what he was doing—In about ten minutes they went away, and stood under an archway—they remained there five or ten minutes, and then returned to the shop, to the same pane of glass—Ward's hand worked in the same way—all in an instant they both darted from the window and ran across the road—we ran over, and found a pane of glass out of the wondow, and a piece of cloth partly out of the window—I went in the direction they ran, and went one or two Puplic-houses, but could not find them—I am quite certain they are the two persons.

Cross-examined Q. If you had run after them before you went over to the shop, you would have saved the property? A. I did not know they had committed an offence till we went over.

STEPHEN ROBERTS . This is the piece of kerseymere.

Ward's Defence. I was not there at all that night.

Vines' Defence. I was not there—I never saw Ward in my life.

WILLIAM SAVAGE . re-examined. At the time they ran away, the gas lamps were burning—there was not light enough to see their faces by the light of the heavens—It could only be seen by the gas-light.

Vines. The shopman said at the office, that the window was cracked in two places before.

STEPHEN ROBERTS . It was slightly cracked before—the window was perfectly whole except that.

WARD— GUILTY .— DEATH . Aged 17.

VINES— GUILTY .— DEATH . Aged 19.

Fourth Jury, before Mr. Justice Williams.

1929. MICHAEL COLLINS was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Samuel Prior , about the hour of 12 in the night of the 26th of August , at Hendon , with intent to steal, and stealing there in, 1 handkerchief, value 6 d .; 3 shirts, value 12 s .; yards of calico, value 3 s .; 1 petticoat, value 4 s .; 1 pair of stays, value 8 s .; 1 coat value 10 s .; 1 sheet, value 3 s .; 3 pillow-cases, value 3 s .; 2 pairs of drawers, value 4 s .; 1 curtain, value 6 d .; 1 spoon, value 20 s .; 3 pairs of shoes value 8 s .; 1 cap, value 6 d .; and 3 unmade shirts, value 15 s .; the goods of the said samuel Prior .

LOUISA PRIOR . I am the wife of Samuel Prior, who lives at Crickle-wood, near Kilburn, in the parish of Hendon; we keep a house there. On the night of the 26th of August, I went to bed—I was not the last person up, but I fastened the doors and windows about ten o'clock—we have a bar to the back door, and the shutters were barred and bolted—I was not disturbed in the night—I got up next morning about half-past five o'clock—I was the first person up—It was day light then—I went into the back kitchen and found the shutter taken down, and laid down in the back house, the window wide open, and the door also—the shutter had been cut, and a hand put in to remove the catch of the window, and pull it down—I found the parlour all in confusion—I missed five shirts, (two were made, and there unmade), a pair of stays, a silver spoon, a pair of woman's, and two pairs of men's shoes—I had seen all the things over night, in the drawers, except the shirts, which were on a horse in the kitchen—I never saw the prisoner till he was at the office—I saw part of my things again at nine o'clock that morning at a public-house, in the presence of the horse-patrol—there were three pairs of shoes and three shirts—I knew them again.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Were you the last person up in the house? A. No—my daughter and niece were left up when I went to the bed—they are not here.

RICHARD WAKE . I lived with Mr. Bonnet, a farmer, opposite Mr. Prior's On the morning of the 27th of August I was called by master to go into the field, at about half-past eight o'clock—there is a road across the field—I saw the prisoner in the field—I came up to him, and asked him where he was going—he said, "To London"—I said, "This is not the way to London"—he said he did not know his way, and he taught there was a way there—he had got a basket—I asked him what he had got in his basket—he said, "A pair of shoes"—my master came up at the time, he said he had a pair of shoes in his basket, and he said a bundle of rags as well—he mentioned the shoes first—my master came up and pulled the basket on one side, and I could see a pair of shoes and a bundle in it—my

master said by the shoes he had in his basket he had got a girl, as they were women's shoes—he made no reply—I then directed him to the main road—he was not in the way to London, he was not in any road—I knew of this robbery at that time, and went to Mr. Prior's, and learnt what had been lost—I then went after him—I followed him up a lane leading to Hampstead—I saw him again, and was certain he was the same man—when I came within sight of him he ran and I after him, for about 200 or 300 yards—he then got over a gate—I tumbled over the gate in getting over, and lost sight of him for a moment—but on searching the didch I found him concealed under a lot of briers and brambles, quite out of sight, in about ten minutes—I said, "Come out"—he said, "What do you want of me?"—I got him out, and kept him, and by the assistance of some neighbours gave him in charge of the horse-patrol—I found this basket in the ditch with him—It contains the same things now as when I found it.

Cross-examined Q. This was about half-past eight or nine o'clock in the morning? A. Yes—I do not remenver the day of the week—my master said he would send him to the treadmill—directly he got into the road I directed him, he set off running, and I pursued him—he ran about five minutes after my master had threatened him—I might be 100 yards from him when he began to run—the prosecutor's is not above 300 yards from where I stopped him in the field.

SAMUEL BONTON . I am a horse-patrol. I received the prisoner in custody from Wake, from nine to a quarter past nine o'clock on the 27th of August—I found nothing on him but a cigar—I received this basket from Wake with its contents, and I took a shirt and pair of drawers off the prisoner's person which I have also put into it—he has been in custody ever since.

SAMUEL PRIOR . I went to bed rather before my wife—she came down first in the morning—It was twilight when she went down, which was about a quarter past five—I had been awake about a quarter of an how before she got up, and had heard no disturbance or noise—she came up and gave me information, and I came—I found the parlour shutters cut in two with a chisel—they had got in at the parlour shutters and went through the house and opened the back door.

Cross-examined Q. Whatever depredation was committed, was before a quarter after five? A. No doubt of it—the prisoner was taken four hours after that—more things were not taken away than one person could carry—several things have not been found—this was on Thursday moringg.

MRS. PRIOR . Here is a pair of shoes belonging to my husband, he had pulled them off in the parlour the night before—here is another pair be longing to my daughter—I know them—I was with her when she bought them about two months before—this cap belonged to one of our men—I know it—the shirts I know—there is none of my work on them—this is unfinished, but I cut it out—I cut them all three out—the other articles belong to us—this handkerchief is ours, it was on the prisoner's neck when taken.

Prisoner. The shirt I had on he looked at the bosom of, and said it was not his but mine.

MR. PRIOR . The shirt the prisoner had on, I said I did not know when it was on, as the frill was taken off, but the shirt was taken off at the office, and I knew it then to be mine—there is no mark on it, but some green paint on one of the sleeves, which I know it by—I had done that myself.

Prisoner's Defence. I am away because the gentleman said he would send me to the treadmill for trespassing on his ground—I saw them wait ing on the road for me, and did not like to go to them.

MARGARET MCCARTHY . I know the prisoner, he lived at No.9, Carrier Street, St. Giles's, last August—I lodged in the house with him for seven months—On Wednesday, the 26th of August, he went to bed at nine o'clock, and got up at six in the morning—we heard of his being taken up in the evening—I am sure it was the night before he was taken up that I speak of—I am certain he slept in the same room as I slept—two more women, his mother, his sister and another young girl and myself, all slept in the morning—I heard the clock in the next room strike, and we could see the church clock from our back window.

MARY CALMAL . I am single, I have lived in carrier-street nine months. M'Carthy has slept in the same bed with me for seven months—I have known the prisoner a long time—he slept on Wednesday night in the same room as I did—I was there when he went to bed, and he was fast asleep at nine o'clock—It had struck six before he left the house in the morning—I saw him going out—I was up before him—I saw him getting up, and saw him go out—his mother and little brother slept there that night, and a young woman, his sister—she is married, her name is Mary Collins—his mother is not here.

MARY CULLINS ( through an interpreter .) My husband's name is John Calligan . On Wednesday night, the 26th of August, I slept in the same room as the prisoner—I went to bed at nine o'clock—I got up about a quarter of an hour after him next morning—It wanted a quarter to ten when I got up—I heard the clock strikesix when he was getting up and leaving the room—he was in bed an hour before me the night before.

(David Donaghue, labourer, 13, Crown-street, Soho; Cornelius Collins, labourer; and Alexander Brien, Labourer, Bainbridge-street, Bloomsbury, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY .— DEATH Aged 19.

First Jury, before Mr. Baron Gurney .

1930. GEORGE CATLIN was indicted for a robbery on Matthew Henry Chinn , on the 22nd of August , at St. Dunstan Stebon-health alias Stepney , and stealing from his person and against his will, 2 shilling and 1 sixpence, the monies of the said Matthew Henry Chinn .

MATTHEW HENRY CHINN . I belong to the Admiral Cockburn , lying in the West India Docks, Rotherhithe. Some weeks ago I was with the steward of the ship, and the prisoner was with him—the steward lent him half-a-crown—the steward told me if I could get the half-crown I might have it for myself—after that I met the prisoner on the night of the 22nd of August, at the foot of the Commercial-dock bridge—I was coming home to my father's—I asked the prisoner for the half-crown—he said he had not got it then, but if I went to the Ben Jonson he would give it to me, as he had to go to No.6 in that row for some money—It was about half-past ten o'clock at night—I went with him—my father lives at Step ney, and the Ben Jonson is at Stepney—I went him as far as Ben Jonson's fields, and there he stopped me, and said he wanted some money—he took out knife, held it to my throat, and said if I did not give him some money he would cut my throat—I gave him one shilling—he wanted sixpence more, which I gave him—then he wanted another shilling, which I gave him—I said, "I have only sixpence to take home to my

mother," he said, "Here take sixpence back," and he gave me sixpence, and said if I said nothing to any body he would give me double the money on Monday—he held the knife to my throat while he was doing this—It was touching my throat—I went home and told my father—he was taken up on the Saturday following—this happened on Saturday night.

Prisoner. Q. Had you any money that Saturday night? A. I had been at work—that Saturday night the owner had given me three days liberty to get my things ready for sailing—I had received four shillings (three day's wages) on the Saturday night that I was robbed, at the Dog and Duck. Hotherhithe—I bought some apples and a loaf when I came out, and I paid three-pence for waterage after we crossed the water, and paid a penny to look into a show—he robbed me of two shillings, and I took one shilling to my mother—I had money before.

HENRY CHENN . I am the prosecutor's father. He came home to me on this night abotu half-past ten o'clock, or rather better, I cannot say to a few minutes—he was as white as a sheet when he came in, and very much agitated—he told me what had happened—I did not see the prisoner for a weck after, when he was at the London Docks—I took him into custody, and gave him to an officer—my son brougth home two sixpences, and three them on the table—I told the prisoner what I took him up for—he said, "It is all nonsense; it is no such thing"—I said, "Time will prove it, "

DANIEL RODKINS . I am a Thames police-constable. The prisoner was given incharge to me on the 29th of August—I asked how he came to rob such a poor boy of his money—he said he did no such thing, he never saw him on Saturday night—I was present at his examination—I saw the clerk writing when the prisoner was making a statement—he wrote what the pri soner said, for any thing I know—I heard it read over to him afterwards—he made no objection to what the cerk read—I did not hear him say any thing when it was road over to him—he made no objection to what the clerk read—( looking at the examination )this is what the clerk read to him, and this is the magistrat's signature—( read )"The prisoner says, I am guilty of taking the 18 d ., but as to drawing a knife, I hope the Almighty will punish me if I did."

Prisoner's Defence. I declare to the Almighty I had no such thing about me as a knife.

(Captain Bind, Robert Dixon, undertaker, and Catlin, the prisoner's brother, gave him a good character.)

GUILTY .— DEATH . Aged 32.

First Jury, before Mr. Justice Williams.

1931. JOSEPH COLEMAN was indicted for burgalariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Samuel Castle , at St. Marylebone , about the hour of eight in the night of the 8th September , with intent to steal, and stealing therein 1 piece of handkerchiefs, containing 7 handkerchiefs value 30 s ., the goods of the said Samuel Castle .

THOMAS HARLUP . I am foreman at Mr. Bryan's livery-stables, in Oxford-street. On the night of the 8th of September, a little before eight o'clock, I was standing down the egateway, and saw two men at our gate—one of them stooped, as if to put something on the groung—the other one went towards Mr. Castle's shop window, who keeps a hosier's shop—he then returned to the other one who was waiting at the gate—the other stooped down, as if to pick this thing up again, and both went to ward's the shop window again—It is about ten yards from where I stood,

and on the same side of the street—I walked up the gateway, opened the gate, and saw them both go from the shop window across the road—I saw them both close to the window—I opened the gate and saw them cross the street—I looked at the window, and saw a red silk purse hanging out of a hale which had been cut in the glass at the corner of a square—I went to the shop door and called out "Thieves!"—I kept my eye on the men and followed them—I saw the prisoner drop a piece of silk handkerchiefs—I never lost sight of him—I took him up and secured him, and gave him in custody of a policeman—I had observed the hole out in the glass before I alarmed the shopkeeper.

HENRY HEWETT . I am in the employ of Mr. Samuel Castle, a hosier. I remember the alarm being given by Harlup—I examined the state of the shop—a piece of silk handkerchief was gone out of the window—I had seen it the day before—It was foreign silk, printed in England—It con tained seven handkerchiefs—I missednothing else—the glass was cut—It was safe when I lighted the gas, at about seven o'clock—when the alarm was given it was dark—there was no day—light remaining—the hole in the glass was large enough to take the handkerchief through—It appeared to have been cut—I saw the piece of handkerchief in the hands of Harlup—he gave it to the policeman—It was the property of Mr. Castle, I have not the least doubt—It had been about four inches within the window.

JOHN HAHEEY . I am a policeman. I have got a piece of silk handkerchief, which I received from Harlup, at about a quarter past eight o'clock—I have had it ever since.

HENRY HEWETT . This is the property of Mr. Castle—I had noticed it in the window the day before.

THOMAS HARLUP . When I first saw them, the day light was quite gone—It had been dark half an hour.

Prisoner. I know nothing about it.

GUILTY .— DEATH . Aged 21.

First Jury, before Mr. Baron Gurney.

1932. WILLIAM MILLER , JAMES COOPER , JAMES DIVINE , and DAVID FLEMING , were indicted for a robbery on Emma Kidd , on the 19th of September , at St. Leonard, Shoreditch , putting her in fear, and feloniously stealing from her person, and against her will, 1 purse, value 6 d .; and 2 soverigns; the goods and monies of William Kidd .

EMMA KIDD . I am the wife of William Kidd. About half—past ten o'clock in the evening of the 19th of September, I was in the Kingsland mad, going to market—I live in Essex-street, Hoxton—I was going down kingsland-road—I was thrust into a mob near a buteher's shop, where two women were singing—I was going through the crowd, and was thrust into it by the four prisoners—Miller was the first—I tried to get out of the crowd, and was presented by the four prisoners—Miller put his hand into my basker—he found there was nothing there, and put his hand into my pocket—the others thrust him towards me—I tried to get out of the mon, but could but—he got my purse out of my pocket, and threw it down by the side of me—I ws then in the thick of the crowd—I saw Cooper pick my purse up, and run with it towards Shoreditch church—I said, "You villain, you have robbed me," and caugght hold of Miller's hand—he wrenehed his hand away, but I caught hold of his coat, and never let

go till a policeman took him into custody—this was on Saturday night—on Monday morning I saw Cooper at Worship-street office—he sent for me out of the office, and spoke to me in the street, and said Miller was his brother—I said I was sorry to see a respectable young man like him have such a wicked brother—I had no officer with me, and was rather alarmed, fearing he would strike me—a witness was with me—I told a pliceman he was one of them, and he was taken into eustody—In the office he told me, provided I would not appear before the Magistrate, he would make the money good—I said, "My other property too?" which was three duplicates—he said he would make them right—said I thought the tickets were taken out—he said, "No; I will see to that"—I informed the officer of this conversation—there had been two soverigns and three duplicates in my purse—I know the other two prisoners—they pushed Miller towards me—It was done designedly.

EMMA MITCHELL . I was in Kingsland-road on Saturday night, and saw Mrs. Kidd—I was going to market—I saw the four prisoners all toge ther—I saw two of them part—Miller and Cooper came on each side of Mrs. Kidd—I saw Miller put his hand into her pocket and pull out some thing, but what I could not see—she said, "Oh, you villain, you hare robbed me"—he called her a name I do not wish to mention, and then called her another name—she never left go of him after she got aeross the road—then I saw Miller drop the purse, and Cooper pick it up—he got away—I took so much notice of him as to know again—I saw the other two shove the prosecutrix off the curb—I am sure it was done on purpose—I saw Fleming speak to Miller just before he robbed her—I did not see Divine do any thing—when miller was taken to the sstation-house they fol lowed.

Miller. It was a man laid hold of me, twenty yards from the women. Witness. She never let go of the tail of his coat till she crossed the road; and then the policeman took hold of him, he had put the purse in his breast, and undid his coat and said, "Search me," and at the time he said so, he dropped the purse down.

Miller . I said, "Search me"—she said, "No, you have given it to one of your comrades"—now she says I dropped it.

JOHN SAYER . I am a policeman. About ten o'clock I was coming down the Kingsland-road and saw the four prisoners; Cooper on the right, Miller on the left, and the third one coming down the road, about one hundred yards from where the robbery took place—they were all four in company—In about twenty minutes I saw Miller in custody going to the station-house—on Monday morning I took Fleming into custody at Wor ship-street, near the office.

Cooper Q. What coat had I on? A. Not the one you have on now—he had a white apron on on Saturday night, but not when he was taken.

EMMA KIDD re-examined. Cooper was dresses in a different coat on Saturday night, and when he was taken on Monday he had no apron on.

JOHN FRENCH . I am a policeman. I was in Kingsland-road, and came up on hearing the alarm—I saw Mrs. Kidd holding Miller—she said he had robbed her of a purse and two sovereigns—I took him to the sta tion-house, and found three duplicates on him—I took him from her hand, she had hold of him—as I was going along, Divine and Fleming follopwed us; and said what was the use of my taking him to the station-house before I searched him—we do not stop in the street to search a prisoner—Divine and Fleming were taken on Monday morning at the office.

THOMAS ROWLAND . I am a policeman. I took Cooper into custody on Mrs. Mitchell's charge in Hoxton-town—Mrs. Kidd was not with her—It was about five minutes' walk from the office—I took him near the office—Mrs. Kidd told me afterwards what he had said to her—I found 14 s . in silver on him, and a duplicate which does not belong to Mrs. Kidd.

Miller's Defence. I was going along the road, and a short young gen tleman, with a cigar in his mouth, tapped me on the shoulder, and I said, "What do you want with me?"—he took me back nine or ten yards—Mrs. Kidd came running up and said, "That is the man, I can swear to him"—I said, "What is the matter?"—she said I had ropped her of her purse—I said, "Search me," and unbuttoned my coat—she said, "Oh, you have given it at another," and told them to take me to the station-house, and at the station-house Mrs. Mitchell said she saw me give the purse to Cooper—Kidd said she knew nothing about it, but at the office she said she saw me chuck it away.

Cooper Defence. I deny being in Kingsland-road that evening—I posi tively swear I was in a public-house in Bishopsgate-street from half-past seven to eleven—the witness swears I had another coat on—I believe my tailor is here to swear I have worn no other coat for twelve months, and he made it for me—I had no coat ata home, for the policeman went to search my house, he looked at my father's and brother's clothes, but could find sone of mine.

Divine's Defence. I was hired by Miller's brother to come to the office to find Mrs. Kidd—he offered me 5 s . for my trouble—he gave me 2 l . to give her not to appear against his brother—I went and offered it to her—she consented to take it—and then the policeman came and said, "You must go in, your prisoner is going to be tried"—she said "I am going to take the money and not appear"—he said "you must not do that"—they took me—Mrs. Kidd said, "I don't know the young man—I never saw him in my life"—and in the office a witness swore she knew me, and that I had ano ther coat on, and then Mrs. Kidd got up and swore she knew me, which she did not at first.

EMMA KIDD re-examined. I never said I did not know Cooper was the man—he said he had come about Miller, who was his brother, I said, "I am very sorry a respectable young man like you should have such a brother"—I looked round for a policeman, but could not see one—my witness said "That is the man, I know him"—I said "I know it, "but I was afraid to say so till I saw a policeman, as I had nobody with me—It was by the side of the public-house.

Divine. Mrs. Kidd said at the station-house she knew nothing about us, and we were let go.

Fleming's Defence . On Saturday night I was walking along, and saw Miller taken to the station-house—I followed and waited outside the station-house—the policeman called us, and we went in—Mrs. Kidd said she did not know us, and we were discharged; and on Monday taken again, and she said she thought we were the men.

(Henry Page, builder, Hornsey-lane, Holloway, gave the prisoner Miller a good character.)

MILLER— GUILTY . Aged 15.

COOPER— GUILTY . Aged 21.

DIVINE— GUILTY . Aged 15.

FLEMING— GUILTY . Aged 15.

DEATH .

First Jury, before Mr. Baron Gurney. .

1933. MOSES HARRIS was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Mary Eddels , about the hour of seven in the night of the 21st of September , at St. Mary-le-Bow , with intent to steal, and stealing therein nine yards of silk, value 2 l . 4 s ., the good of the said Mary Eddels .

JOHN KERBY . I am shopman to Mrs. Mary Eddels, who lives in Cheap side, in the parish of St. Mary-le-Bow. About six o'clock last Monday evening I lighted the gas—the shop window was whole at that time—about eight o'clock I discovered that it was broken—It was then dark, and had been dark nearly two hours, I think—two pieces of silk were gone—they were silk handkerchiefs in two pieces.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE . Q. What time had you seen them last? A. About six o'clock.

WILLIAM SAVAGE . I am a police-constable. Last Monday evening, the 21st of September, I was on duty in High-street, Whitechapel, in plain clothes—I met the prisoner and two other boys coming from the City—another officer took the other two—the prisoner ran across the road—he was followed by Taylor, the street-keeper, and I saw him brought back by Taylor, who had this silk in his possession—It was about a quarter before eight o'clock.

SAMUEL TAYLOR . I am a street-keeper of Whitechapel. Last Monday evening I was on duty at about a quarter before eight o'clock, and saw the prisoner and two other boys coming from the City—I saw Savage take hold of two of them—the prisoner ran away—I followed him—he ran across High street into Plough-street, and about half-way up that street I saw him throw something from him under a dark window—I caught him just round the corner of Colchester-street, and brought him back to the place—I found this silk where I had seen it thrown.

JOHN KERBY re-examined. This is one of the pieces I lost—I had cut it.

Cross-examined. Q. That is not a perfect piece of silk? A. Yes, it is; but I had cut off a handkerchief from it—I do not recollect when I cut it—I saw this on the day in question in its present state—I saw it safe when I lighted the gas in the window about six o'clock—I have no other person who assists in the business—Mrs. Eddels attends to it when I am out—there is no other shopman—I had not been out that evening—I know it from the quantity and quality—It is my own cutting.

SAMUEL TAYLOR Cross-examined. Q. Was you in company with the other officer? A. No—when they were stopped the prisoner ran away—I was about ten yards from them—It was dark—I instantly crossed the ruad after the pri soner—I did not lose sight of him once—I am quite certain I saw him throw something away—I followed close behind him—I did not take it up till I caught him; and when I caught him, his things were all unbuttoned, which was not the case when I first saw him.

(George Swatton, licensed victualler, of North-street, Spitalfields-market, gave the prisoner a good character.).

GUILTY .— DEATH . Aged 16.

Recommende to mercy by the Prosecutrix on account of his youth.

Third Jury, before Mr. Baron Gurney. .

1934. JOHN SMITH and JAMES PRATT were indicted for b—g—y at the parish of Christ Church, Surrey ; and WILLIAM BONILL was indicted as an accessory before the fact.

SMITH— GUILTY .— DEATH . Aged 40.

PRATT— GUILTY .— DEATH . Aged 30.

BONILL— GUILTY . Aged 68.— Transported for Fourteen Years .

Third Jury, before Mr. Justice Williams. .

1935. ROBERT SWAN was indicted for a robbery on William Reynolds , on the 18th of August , at St. James's, Westminster , putting him in fear, and stealing from his person, and against his will, 1 watch, value 15 l .; 1 seal, value 10 s .; 1 watch-key, value 6 d .; 1 purse, value 1 s .; 1 sovereign, 1 half-sovereign, 1 half-crown, 2 shillings, and 1 sixpence; the goods and monies of the said William Reynolds .

MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS and MR. PHILLIPS conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM REYNOLDS ( affirmed. ) I am a member of the Society of Friends. On the 18th of August, about nine o'clock at night, I was in the Green Park—I had dined at the Garrick Club-house, in King-street, Covent-garden—I drank after dinner three or four glasses of claret—I had a very severe head-ache—I dined at half-past five or from that to six o'clock—I left the club-house with a friend, at about a quarter to eight o'clock, in tending to visit the English Opera-house—I found, on getting there, that the order I anticipated taking my friend in with, was for myself only, and therefore declined going; and I went to my friend's rooms, 51, Lincoln's-inn-fields—his name is John Spedding Frowde—he is a solicitor—I went to his chambers with him—I staid there about three quarters of an hour, more or less—he left his chambers with me, and I went with him to Greek-street, Soho, to some billiard-rooms where he wished to play—I did not go into the billiard-rooms, but he did; and I went down the street leading to Cranbourne-street and Leicester-square and Piccadilly into the Green Park—I was not intoxicated in the slightest degree at any period that evening—I was perfectly sober—when I got into the part, I walked round the top of the basin, on the western side—I turned to my left when I got to the top, and walked straight across the open part of the park, in a diagonal line, till I got to the Duke of Sutherland's—I had got some way, when I turned out of the path for the purpose of making water and while I was in the act of doing so, some one came behind me, and said, "Good night"—I replied, "Good night;" and, looking over my shoulder, saw it was a person in a light dress—he immediately seized me by the skirts of my coat, throwing him self rather upon me, saying, "This is just what I wanted, you are the sort of men that get soldiers bad names"—the horror of my situation I at once felt—I was entirely in his power, that he had the opportunity of bringing any charge against me he chose; and the horror of my situation was such, I cannot exactly bring to my recollection what happened from that time—I was so agitated I cannot remember very well what happened; but to the best if my belief, I struggles, when he said, "You had better be quier," and something about "expose"—he then pulled me on further down towards the bottom of the park, towards the palisades which separate the Green Park from St. James's more towards the palace—he then said, "What will you give me to let you go?"—I replied "I will give you all, or any thing, or every thing (I forget which term I used) that I have"—h demanded my purse—he asked me for my purse, (I forget the very words he used,) and I gave it him instantly—It contained a sovereign, a

half-sovereign, and some silver—I am sure of that; and a seal, and key of a desk—he took the purse, and demanded my watch—I gave it him immediately—I should know that watch again—he then said, "Are you content," or "are you satisfied?" in a loudish voice—Idid not make any reply—he went away, and so did I as fast as I could go—I think he went to the right—he struck down, I think, towards St. James's Park—my sight is not very good I did not take such an observation of bis person as to be able to swear to him—I immediately went out at the gate, by the Duke of Sutherland's, that took me to St. James-streer—I them paused to think what I should do—I afterwards went to the Garrick Club—I was calmer and cooler then than I had been—I felt exceedingly nervous—I took some refreshment—I took some porter, I belive—Idid not take anything thatcould affect my sobriety—after leaving the Garrick, I went home, and went to bed—I was then slceping at my friend, Frowde's chambers, No.43, Lincoln's-nin-fields—Mr. Frowde did not see me when I returned—n the Monday following (this was on Tusday)I mentioned what had occurred to Mr. Richards, a friend of mine, who is a law student of Lincoln's-inn—he was going to get on the coach at the time, at the Elephant and Casstle, to accompany me to my father's house at Carshalton—It is Carshalton House where my father resides—he is a gentleman of property—something had occurred that rendered it necessary I should mention it to Mr. Richards—there was a police-offcer there—he put some questions to me concerning a watch, and in consequence of that I mentioned to my friend what had occurred.

COURT . Q. As you were going to get on the coach, a police-officer put a question regarding a watch, and then you told Mr. Richard's? A. I did.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Had you at that time in your company a younger brother? A. I had—I did not permit to hear the disclosure I made to Mr. Richards—I attended at the police-office next morning—the pri soner was there—my watch was produced, and I recognised it at Bow-street office—Mr. Richards attended with me—the charge was then gone into, and the prisoner was committed.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES . Q. Have you always been a member of the Society of Frinds? A. Always—I am a merchant, that is to say, I am at present with my brother-in-law in his counting-house, not actually in partnership with him—I am not in business on my own account—I have been there now, or before I left, eight months—I am twenty-seven years of age, and am single—my support arises partly from a sum placed by my father in my brother's business, and partly from my exertions there—my brother pays me a salary—I am tolerably well acquainted with town—I generally reside at Carshalton—I siept that night at Mr. Frowde's chambers—I had slept there one night before—on the previus night—I had dined with Mr. Frowde alone, at the Garrick—we left the Garrick together—we had an arrangement that we should both go to the English Opera-house—I had a free admission for myself, but none for a friend.

Q. You wished to go to the theatre that we night? A. Exactly so, and so did my friend—It occurred to me that we might both go by paying for one—we did not wish to pay—It was for my friend to choose whether he would pay or not—I waived my privilege—I couuld not offer Mr. Frowde the order, as it was not tracsferable.

Q. When was the arrangement first made for Mr. Frowde to go to the billiard-rooms? A. We left the Garrick to go the English Opera—them went to his chambers—when I left him at the billiard-rooms, I told him I was going to take a walk—I did not tell him where, because I did

not know myself—I made an appointment to meet him in an hour and a half a time—I had not taken that walk before since I have in town—I have walked over the same ground before—I do not think I walked there so late in the evening—I never knew it was a dangerous place to walk in at night by myself—I had a very bad head-ache, and thought the air across the park would he more beneficial than the road—I had had the head-ache, more or less, the whole day—I complained of it in the course of the day to Mr. Frowde, and I believe I told him of it when I told him I was going to take a walk—I mentioned it to him before we proposed to go to the English Opera.

Q. Then you proposed to go to the Opera instead of the park? A. I did; my head-ache became worse afterwards.

Q. when did it become worse? A. when I had walked out after din ner—my friend and I had had some conversation of a nature that was not likey to make it better—It became worse in walking to the theatre, or rather it felt worse when I was walking than when I was sitting quietly—I had pledged myself to go with my friend to the theatre, and did not think my head-ache was to prevent it—It was dark when I went into the park—It does not occur to me that I met any person in the park, but I am not able to say.

Q. Whether you met one person or twenty? A. I am very certain I did not meet twenty—I cannot tell whether I met any person—It was not a matter which occupied my attention—I was suffering from bodily pain, and wished to get rid of it, that was my reason for walking there—I do not remember whether I met any body—I went five or ten paces out of the regular path for the purpose I have stated—I mean steps—there are not railings on each side the path—I was on the grass when I made water.

Q. Do you mean to stats distinctly, you met no person up to that time? A. No, I do not—the person I came in contact with spoke to me before I was touched at all—I was grasped by the tails of my coat—he threw himself ratber forwards upon me, holding the tail of my coat at the same time—I affirm that I did not speak to him first—I said nothing whatever about girls—nothing more passed between us than what I have detailed—I did not any, "This is a fine place for girls"—I mean solemnly to affirm that—I did not make any such remark while I was with him—after I was adderssed, I looked round immediately—he said, "Good night, and I saw a person in a light dress—It was a soldier's dress, from the make of it, was late in the evening—I cannot say it was a light flannel jacket—I was not near encough to see—my impression at the time was, that the person addressing me was a soldier—I did not say to him, "What time have you to be in barracks?" nor any thing of the kind—or, "What time must you be home?"—he did not say to me that he must be home, or in the barracks at ten o'clock.

Q. If it was so dark as you have stated and you were in such confu sion as not to recollect what took place, how can you swear it was the dress of a soldier? A. I said I saw a person in a light dress, and a dress fitting in that way generally belongs to a soldier—the second sentence he uttered was, "You are the kingd of parties that give soldiers bad names"—I had finished what I was about at that time—I believe I had restored my dress to its usual place, for I found my dress restored subsequiently, and imagine I did it by instinct almost 6, I may say—I looked at my dress immediatly. Q. Do you mean immediately after you parted from the person? A. Yes,

at least my dress was then right—I did not mention this to my person till I mentioned it to Mr. Richards, after I had seen the officer.

Q. Was any thing said between you and that person as to an appoint ment at a future night? A. Certainly not; but for the communication with the officer, I should very probably never have mentioned it at all—I cannot sat how far the person and I went togeether, my state of agitation was so great—I had had the watch about six months—I had bought it.

Q. Was any arrangement made for you to meet the person again, and to give a certain sum of money on your watch being restored to you? A. Certainly not—I did not get other watch between the time of my giv ing it up and the officer coming to me—I was without a watch all that time—my brothers were not at home, except my younger brother, and he did not inquire where it was—Mr. Frowde did not inquire—I was not in the habit of wearing a watch so that it might be seen—at times I did, and at times I did not—I struggled when this happened—I did not call out—I did not meet any one after I left the person, till I got into St. James's Park—It might be fifty or seventy yards to the gate at the corner, then I had to go into St. James's Park—I met one person, I believe, before I got to the sentinel of the palace—I believe it was a man—It was a man—I did not speak to him.

Q. Did it not occur to you, that as you had been so ttacked by a per son you believed to be a soldier, uit would be the best thing for you to tell the first soldier you met on duty what had occured? A. It did not occur to me—the person turned to the right, I believe, but I did not pay any great attention—I went away myself as fast as I could.

COURT . Q. How near were you to the railings? A. I should say fifty yards from them, as well as I am able to speak of distance.

MR. JONES . Q. Can you tell me whether, when you parted, the soldier went away on the regular path, or diverted from it? A. He went over the grass—I went from the pathway on to the grass before he attacked me—I did not give him up all the money I had—I gave him up the purse—It did not contain all the money I had—I had some money in my trowsewrs pocket—that was 6 s . or 7 s .—I told him I would give him all I had about me—I would gladly do so—I gave him what he demanded—I would have given him all had he demanded it—I did not say to him, Pray take all I have, and let me go;" nor any thing to that effect—I gave him what he de manded, and he appeared satisfied—I have never been married—I never stated to any one that I was married—I never allowed any female to pass as my wife.

COURT Q. As you were going down from the West end of the basin, towards the Duke of Sutherland's gate, how far had you got before you stepped out of the path for this purpose? A. I have walked over the spot since, and believe it was about three-quaters of the way—I was nearer to the gate than the basin—I did not observe at what pace the person went when he parted from me—I have no recollection whether the person was taller or shorter than the prisoner—my impression is, that he is the man—to address me in a natural tone of voice.

MR. JONES . Q. How lately before that night had you been in the Park? A. I had not been in the Green Park at all the last time I have been in town—I had not been there for ten months—I had been in town for about ten days before that night.

COURT Q. Were you occassionally backwards and forwards in town? A. I had not been in town for ten months before—I had been to Liverpool—I

had not been in the Green Park in those ten days—I have walked in the Regent's Park in the day-time, never at night—no money was given back to me after I gave it to the person.

WILLIAM BAKER . I am a watchmaker, and live at No. 35, Long Acre. On Thursday afternoon, the 20th of August, the prisoner came to my shop and produced it on the subject of ear-rings—when he proiduced the gold watch, he asked me what it was woth—It had a small seal attached to it, and I think a steel ring—I said, "It must have cost at least 25 l . new"—he then said it was too good for him to have knocking about—he said it was given him by a lady's maid—when I told him what it was worth, he said, "You would not think that was a present to a lady's maid, would youi?"—I said, "No I should not"—he said it was too good for him to have knocking about; that he had it in his possession for three weeks, and had not shown it to any of his comrades; and that he wished to dispose of it, because it was too good, and he would take anotherin exchange, if I would buy it, and make it worth my while—he did not say any thing about his discharge, to my recollection—I then replied to him that I did not think it had been given to a lady's maid—he then said, what he had stated was correct, and that he was always to be found, giving me his name and address, "Robert Swan, Scotch Fusileer Guards, First Bat talion—I then asked him long he had it in his possession—he said, "Three weeks," and asked if I knew of a person who it waws likely to suit—I said I thought I had a customer it might suit, and if he would leave it I would show it to him—he hesitated, and asked me how long I should be—I said if he would allow it me two hours, and he agreed to it—I had a motive for asking him that—he went away, leaving it, and in the mean time 1 endeavoured to trace out the coat of arms on the back—I gave information at Bow-street—he returned in about two hours and a quater, and asked what I had done about the watch—I said, "Now I wish to know how you became possessed of this watch?"—Fletcher, the officer, was close at hand at the time—I think he was in my parlour—he afterwards came into the shop—he was in the shop when I said I should like to know how he came by it—the prisoner said it had been given to him by a young woman he was keeping company with—I said I could not give it up to him, unless I was satisfied he had become honestly possessed of it—he then began to say he was not going to be swindled out of it in that kind of way—a young woman was with him when he came the second time—then the officer interfered—he said the young woman had nothing to do with it—I gave the watch to the officer.

Cross-examined Q. Was it true that you had a customer it would be likely to suit? A. No, I had not.

ABRAHAM FLETCHER . I belong to Bow-street Office. I went to Mr. Baker's house on Thursday, the 20th of August, about half-past seven o'clock in the evening—I had some information from him what I was wanted for—I went into the shop—there was nobody there but Mr. Baker—I about half an hour the prisoner came in with a female—he had got his uniform coat on, with side-arms—the prisoner inquired of Mr. Baker whether he had seen the gentleman respecting his watch—Mr. Baker re plied, "I want to know how you came into possession of the watch"—he stated that he received it of a female that he was keeping company with, and he wished to dispose of it, for the purpose of purchasing his discharge—Mr. Baker inquired of him the price he wanted for it—he did not state any price—the prisoner appeared very anxious to get the watch or money,

and became rather angry at not having it returnes, and wished to know where it was—I immediately stepped forwards, and informed him I had the watch—I told him who I was, and requested him to give me a full account how he came into possession of it—he stated, as he did before, that he re ceived it of a female, who he was keeping company with—I told him that was not satisfactory to me, and if he could not satisfy me better than that, that I should detain him, and likewise the female—the prisoner wished to know why I detained the female, for he said she knew nothing at all about it—I only threatened to do so—he said he accidentally met her near St. Giles's church, and asked her to accompany him to the shop—I imme diately took them both into custody—I did not search him there—I took him to the office at Bow-street, woman and all—Mr. Baker went with me—the prisoner went, quietly—when we got to Bow-street it was after eight o'clock, and the office was closed—I remained in the room with him a short time—he complained very much of the female being detained, and kept saying she knew nothing about it, and while there he stated that he received the watch of a gentleman that he well knew, but he would not, for I think he said, ten times the amount, tell who it was—I conveyed him to the station-house for the night, and there I requested him to give me what he had in his pocket, but previous to taking him over to the station-house he gave me a small key, and said it was the key belong ing to the watch—I had showed him the watch—I have had that and the key ever since—at the station-house he gave me a sovereign, a half-sovereign, two half-crowns, and some other silver, to the amount of 2 l . 17 s .—he produced it himself—It was loose, not in a purse—I detained him and the woman all night—he was taken before Mr. Halls, the Magistrate, next morning—what passed was taken down by the clerk—he did not say any thing in the way to the Magistrate's—the Magistrate's clerk took from his mouth what he had to say—I think it was not signed at the first examination—this was on Friday morning, the 21st—I went to the Elephant and Castle on Mon day, I think, and there saw Mr. Reynolds, and a gentleman with him, who I understood was his brother, and Mr. Richards—I spoke to Mr. Rey. nolds, and afterwards to Mr. Richards.

Cross-examined. Q. The prisoner gave you his address? A. He stated in the shop that his name was Robert Swan, and gave his address—I found that to be correct—he took off his stock, inside which his name was written—w en I mentioned this to Mr. Reynolds, at the Elephant and Castle, I thought he appeared rather agitated—he appeared rather surprised.

Q. A little confused? A. Very trifling—he did not thank me for hav ing traced his watch—we had very little conversation—Mr. Reynolds ap peared at the office on the following morning—he made no communication in my presence of what had passed between him and me, to the gentlemen with him—there was an appointment made for him to meet me at Bow-street next morning, but not at that precise moment.

MR. REYNOLDS re-examined. This is my watch and the one I parted with on the night in question—this seal and ring were not annexed to it.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you buy the watch with your own money, or was it bought by any member of your own family and presented to you? A. I bought it with my own money.

JOHN SPEDDING FROWDE was called, but not examined on the part of the prosecution.

Cross-examined by MR. HONES . Q. Do you live at your chambers? A. I live at 43. Lincoln's-inn-fields—my chambers, where I do business,

are at 51, Lincoln's-inn-fields—Mr. Reynolds has been sleeping at my chambers some time this summer since he has been up from Liverpool—I have only one bed at my chambers—he slept there by himself—he could go to them without seeing me—I had a spare key which I gave him when I told him he might have the bed there—he slept there on the 18th of August—he has slept there several times before—I do not recollelct whether he slept there the night before—I always knew when he did sleep there, because I used always to come up to the chambers from my office to see if there were any letters, and I am sure he never slept there without my knowledge—what hours he came in at or went out I do not know—we dined together at the Garrick club-house on the 18th of August—we after wards said we would go to the English Opera-house—I said I wanted to go to my chambers, but I would just go down there with him—I under stood that my name was written on the order, or the name of any friend of Mr. Reynolds—I do not know whether it was "Mr. Reynolds and Mr. Frowde, "or whether it was "Mr. Reynolds and a friend"—I thought it was one of two—I was to be admitted either by having my name written down, or as being his friend—when we got there we found only Mr. Reynolds' name was down, and as it was not likely I should stay long, I did not think it worth while to pay to go in, and we went away—I saw no order or ticket before I went to the theatre—I do not know the way it was done—we then walked back to my chambers, No. 51, Lincoln's-inn-fields, and waited there for I think half an hour—I remember thinking I had waited late enough for the last delivery of the twopenny-post letters, which was about half-past eight—we then went into Greek-street, Soho—whether we walked or went in a cab I do not recollect—It was a fine night—I wanted to go into a house in Greek-street, where I expected to meet some friends—I said I would go there—he said he should go and take a walk, and left me for that purpose—I think we had one bottle of claret to drink at dinner—I am sure we had no more—I do not think he drank his share—he refused, to have any wine at dinner, because he said he did not feel very well—h did not say where he was going to walk when we parted at the bil liard-rooms—he said perhaps he would call for me in three quarters of an hour if I would wait—he must have left me, I think, before nine o'clock—I saw him next morning at breakfast—I did not see him at all that night, I did not wait the three quarters of an hour—I think I remained about half an hour—he said nothing next morning about what had happened to him the night before—I think he first told me of this on the Monday fol lowing—It was the same day that Fletcher produced the watch—I was going with him to his father's house, and when we got down there I for get whether he told me of it first or whether it was his brother—I had parted from him at the Elephant and Castle, and had got upon the coach, and did not see Fletcher—I got up on the coach where his brother was, and his brother did not know of this then—we did not know any thing of it till we got to Curshalton—he never mentioned it on the journey—there were other persons by.

COURT . Q. Do you know Mr. Richards? A. Yes, he was at the Elephant and Castle, I saw him there with Mr. Reynolds—I don't know whether he communicated with him—Mr. Reynolds complained of head ache on the 18th of August.

WILLIAM DYOTT BURDER . I acted as clerk to the Magistrate, at Bow-street, on the 25th of August, at the prisoner's examination—Mr. Halls was the Justice in attendance—the prisoner made a statement after being ad monished

by the Magistrate that whatever he said would be taken down, and might be used in evidence against him—I took down from his mouth the statement he made, and after doing so, read it over to him, and he subscribed his name to it—It was countersigned by the Magistrate—the names of Robert Swan and Thomas Halls to his examination are the hand writing of the prisoner and the Justice ( read .)

"The prisoner states, I was the person—on Tuesday evening last, about nine o'clock, I had been to Chesterfield-street, to accompany a young girl home—on my return I made it my business to go through the Green park, it being my nearest way home—this gentleman, as I believe it to be, was at the gate at the time leading to the Park—the gate I mean is the one opposite the reservoir of water leading from Piceadilly: going from there nothing occurred till about half-way down the Park, when the gentleman I had the w at ch from overtook me; he accosted me with "Good night", or words to that effect—he said "This is a fine place for girls"—I replied "Yes"—he asked me if I should like one there? I forget the answer I made—we proceeded a little further, and as I thought, turned his back to make water—I was going on, he said "Stop a bit, I am going through the Park, I will accompany you"—When he turned round again his per son was exposed in a disgraceful manner, and he asked me what I thought of that, and I, as he says, took him into custody, and told him at the same time it was such men as them that got soldiers into bad names—he begged that I would not take him, and at the same time pulled out this watch—I took the watch, and thought at the same time as a testimony against him—we went a little further towards the bottom of the Park—he fell down upon his knees, and begged for his family's sake that I would let him go—I pitied him—after long entreating from him, I told him I would let him go on a promise that he would never insult a soldier in a like manner again—he pulled out his purse, and called me a good fellow—but it was agreed he was to meet me the next day at the bottom of the Park, and I was then to return him his watch, and he would make me a present—he asked me not to bring any one with me—I told him I would not—at twelve o'clock next day I had made up my mind to give him into custody, and had a person with me who was on duty there, but I did not communicate to him what I wanted him for—that is all I have to say—the money that I had from him was, to the best of my recol lection, one pound ten shillings—he told me that I was to dispose of the watch as I thought proper, If he was not there the next day.— ROBERT SWAN . Taken before me this 25th day of August, 1835, at the public office, Bow-street.— THOMAS HALLS ."

EDWARD LEWIN RICHARDS . I was in company with Mr. Reynolds when he was going to the Carshalton stage.

Prisoner's Defence. ( written. ) "My Lord, and Gentlemen of the Jury, I beg very respectfully to make the following few remarks, in answer to the serious charge; trusting that you will banish from your minds any prejudicial informatioin you may have received, either from public statements made to you, or from the prosecuton himself, assisted by superior means that his station in society enables him to command, whilst I rely entirely on your impartial consideration and attention to my answer to this ser ious charge; and humbly hope that you will give me the full benefit of any doubts on your minds of my guilt that may occur to you from the evidence you have heard produced. In the first palce, My Lord, and Gentlemen of the Jurry, I have to call your attention to the fact, that at the time this disgraceful

affair took place, there were many people within hsil; and afte parting with a valuable gold watch and his purse, and requesting the soldier to give him back the silver, which he did, the prosecutor walked away: if he had been threatened by the soldier, or had he obtained possession of the watch and purse by unlawful means, as he states, he fould easily have followed the soldier, and given him in charge of the police, or the people who passed at the time; or otherwise he could have found the soldier at the barracks; or mentioned the affair to the police, who would easily have apprehended him on such a charge: whereas, My Lord, and Gentlemen of the Jury, it was full a week after his endeavouring to dispose of the watch before the prosecutor could be found, and that only by the great exertions of Mr. Fletcher, the constable: and it was with great reluctance the pro secutor then came forward, as the watch was given to the soldier under the circumstances you are already in possession of—viz. to prevent the soldier from giving him in charge of the police for indecent conduct towards the soldier, who considered he had a right to dispose of it. For my general good character, I beg to appeal to the officers of the Regiment I have served upwards of ten years. My Lord, and gentlemen of the Jury, in conclusion, I beg to state my innocence of the crime I am charged with: and, finally, to request your impartial and humane consideration of the facts; and, in throwing myself on your protection, I humbly rely on your favourable verdict, and leave my case entirely in your hands, with the full assurance that you will give me the benefit of any circumstances in my favour."

Prisoner. It was my intention to have given him in charge next day, and I went to the place accordingly—I found a policeman on the very spot where we appointed to meet—I stopped there until ten minutes to one o'clock,—the policeman went away—I told him I had a person to meet—h never came, and I went to dispose of the watch, agreeably to his order, and gave my right address to the watchmaket—I trust you will seriouely consider my case—I am as innocent as a child of any felonious intention with the watch—I went to the shop a second time without hesitation, as I knew I came by the watch as a free gift—I went to the shop, dreading nothing—If I had thought he intended to get a constable I might have absconded, but I did not.

WILLIAM HENRY AVIS ( policeman A 32.) Last month I was stationed by Whitehall—I cannot say whether I have seen the prisoner or not—I am in the habit of seeing so many soldiers—I did not meet any soldier by appointment, in the Green Park, about the 19th of August—I met a soldier on the 19th, between twelve o'clock at noon and a quarter after, by accident—the person I met resembled the prisoner in dress, whether in features I cannot say—a few words passed between us—I waited about two minutes with him—we then separated—It did not exceed tow minutes.

MR. SERGEANT ANDREWS . Q. Did any thing more pass between the soldier and you? A. No; he did not ask me to wait for any purpose.

MR. JONES . Q. Did he say to you that he should require your assist ance, or not? A. He did not—he never intimated any thing of the kind—I have received a subpœna to attend here to-day.

COURT Q. What passed with the soldier? A. He said, "Good morning, what, a deal of fine weather we have had, we want some rain"—he said, "I have made an appointment to meet a person here this morn ing "—I said, "A female, I suppose?"—he said "Yes, "—I said, "There is very often these appointments made to make a fool of a man"—he said "Yes;" and that was all.

THOMAS FORSTER . I am a sergent in the first battalion of Scotch Fusileer Guards. The prisoner has been a private soldier in that regiment for about nine years—I never knew him guilty of any dishonest act during that time—he bore the character of an honest man.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. How long have you been in the regiment? A. Twenty years—we were both in the regiment in 1831—I cannot say whether the prisoner was at liberty all that year—I do not recollect his having been in prison or punished in any way—not for dishonesty—he might be punished, I do not know that he was—If he was, it was for drunkenness of absence, not for dishonesty—I came only to speak as to his honesty—I do not recollect whether he was or was not punished in 1831.

Q. Do you mean, on your solemn oath, to tell the Jury you do not know that he was punished in 1831? A. I do not.

Q. You never heard any charge on which he was punished? A. I have heard several charges confined to the barracks, or billet, or absence, or drunkenness—I do not know that he was punished on another charge—I never heard of any.

Q. On your oath, was he not in prison in 1831, in the very quarters in which you were, for having made a charge precisely like the present? A. He was not, that I swear, nor in any other year, to my knowledge—I de liberately swear that—I have access to the regimental books—I never knew him by any other name than the one he now goes by—( looking at a man named Bride ) I know that man perfectly well—I never heard that the prisoner was imprisoned for a charge similar to the present—I do not know that he has been in prison on any charge—I have sworn it—he was not in prison—no person came aganist him to make a charge—he was not taken up in any way—I believe he was confined—I had heard something of some gentleman making some statement to the sentry, but the person never came forward to the regiment to prove any statement, therefore there is no report against the man in the regiment.

MR. JONES . Q. Was he ever punished or confined on that statement? A. I do not recollect that he was—I have no motive in coming here except to represent truly the character he has borne.

JOHN GILPIN . I am a sergeant in the same regiment. I have known the prisoner eight or nine years—I have not had the pleasure of being so well acquainted with him as my fellow-sergeant was, for I did not belong to the same company, but I never heard of his being in prison.

GUILTY .— DEATH . Aged 28.

LONDON AND MIDDLESEX LARCENIES , &c.

OLD COURT .— Monday, September 21 st, 1835.

First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

1936. JOHN SHEERING was indicted for a conspiarcy.

NOT GUILTY .

1937. SAMUEL JOHN HALL was indicted for embezzlement; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Confined One Year .

1938. JOHN MURPHY was indicted for killing and slaying John Cormay .

ROBERT FLOWER SMITH . I am a surgeon. On Monday evening, the 29th of June, I was called in to see the deceased—I found him outside the Eyre Arms Tavern, St. John's Wood, about seven o'clock—he was then perfectly insensible—he was bruised in the head—there was one bruise over the left eye, and the other about the temple—they were the effect of blows or falls, I cannot say which—I bild him immediately, but without any effect; and then sent him to the Middlesex Hospital, as there was no convenience where he was, for him to be attended to—I was not at the post mortem examination, but saw the head after it was opened, and there was a great qauantity of extravasated blood on the brain, which caused his death.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. What caused his death? A. The extravasation of blood causee by the blow or bruises—I did not examine his head with any degree of nicety—I did not find any old wounds in his head—I think it impossible eight or nine old wounds could escape my observation—I will not say there were not such appearances, but I did not see them—the policeman was with the body when I saw it.

JOSEPH SMITHERS . I am a policeman. I heard there was a fight, and went to the back of the Eye Arms, Portland New-town, about half-past six o'clock—I saw nothing in the fields; and on returning. I saw the de ceased in front of the tavern, supported by three or four persons—I took him to the hospital, by direction of the surgeon—I was not present when Mr. Smith examined the head.

THOMAS WALSH . I am a policeman. I was nothing of the fight—I saw the deceased at the Eyre Arms, and assisted in taking three men to the station-house—the prisoner was not present—I do not know where the prisoner was at the time—I was not present when Mr. Smith ex amined the head.

RICHMOND MOORE . I am a policeman. I was on duty at the London and Birmingham railway on this evening—I saw an assemblage of persons in the grass-field—I went up, and saw the deceased and the prisoner fihgting for three or four minutes—they were fighting in the usual way—when I got up to them, the deceased ran away, and the prisoner stopped—the deceased ran right over Primrose-hill—I am sure the peisoner was the person fighting with him—the deceased was stripped, as men do when they fight—the prisoner said he did not mean to fight any more, and if I would let them go they would be friends, and shake hands—the prisoner had a scratch from his ear nearly to the centre of his chin—I was a body at the hospital afterwards, and knew it was the deceased I did not see the head examined.

WILLIAM MORIARTY I ama shoemaker. The deceased lodged with me—I was not looking at the fight—I knew nothing about it—his name was John Cormay—he was an Irishman—the prisoner is an Irishman, and worked at the shoe-trade—they had worked together—I saw the body afterwards at the hospital, but not when the surgeon examined the head.

Cross-examined. Q. Has the prisoner surrendered here this morning? A. I understand so.

JOHN ELLIS . I am a shoemaker. I did not see the commencement of the fight—I went up about five minutes after it was over, and saw the deceased sitting down—I followed him to the hospital—I did not know him at all, nor knew who he had been fighting with—I did not see the

fight—the prisoner had a black eye, and marks of blood about his face.

Cross-examined Q. How many persons were on the spot when you came up? A. About ten; M'Peirie, and Parker, and another were then—t ey were all taken before the Justice—I have not been them since—they were engaged in the fight—they were holding the deceased, and carried him to the Byre Arms—they were not stripped when I saw them.

MARY HOLMES . I live at Kilburn. On Monday evening, the 29th of June, I saw the men fighting—the prisoner was one of them—they were both stripped, as men do to fight—I did not see the beginning—I saw them fighting for nearly half an hour—I saw them both fall several times—I saw the prisoner fall, and that was the end of it—at the last round the prisoner fell over the deceased, and the deceased was taken to the hos pital.

Cross-examined Q. Where was the fight? A. In the field in the road to Kilburn—there is a footpath through the field—I sent for a po liceman, and was waiting for any children to return.

JACOB PEARCE . I am porter to the Railway Office. I saw a fight at Prinrose-hill—I was seventy yards off—I am not sure whether the de ceased or the prisoner fell last—I do not know who gave the first blow, nor how the quarrel originated.

JOSEPH WOODCROFT . I saw the fight—I saw the beginning, but was at a little distance—I do not know who hit the first blow, nor how the quarrel began—I went up to them, and saw six or seven rounds—It up peared a fair fight—I saw nothing but fair—there was no knock-down blow that I saw, but it was generally throwing one another down—both fell together—they collared nold of one another.

NOT GUILTY .

1939. THOMAS BEATON was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of September , 1 handkerchief, value 1 s ., the goods of William Hardwick Browning , from his person.

WILLIAM HARDWICK BROWNING . I was walking through Smithfield-bars on Tuesday, the 1st of September, about four o'clock in the afternoon—I felt my pocket touched—I put my hand to it, and my handkerchief was gone—I returned, and saw the prisoner move his person in a way which convinced me he had taken it—I laid hold of him—he twisted from me, and ran away—I followed, and he fell down—I secured him, and took him into a house—I did not find my handkerchief on him—the officer has it.

CHARLES HENRY BAGNELL . I am a policeman. I produce the handkerchief which I got from Mr. Grace.

HENRY GRACE . I was with the prosecutor, and saw the prisoner run away, and throw the handkerchief into a waggon—I got it and took it to the prosecutor.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Years .

1940. JAMES ROGAN and THOMAS PERKINS were indicted for stealing, on the 29th of August , 1 trunk, value 5 s .; 2 coats, value 2 l . 5 s .; 1 pair of trowsers, value 10 s .; 2 waistcoats, value 15 s .; 2 shirts, value 1 l .; 1 pair of drawers, value 2 s .; two pair of stockings, value 2 s .: 1 pair of shoes, value 5 s .; 1 gown, value 2 l .; 3 collars, value 30 s .; 5 books, value 30 s .; 1 petticoat, value 10 s .; 1 tippet, value 10 s .; 1 telescope, value 10 s .; the goods of George Greenwood .

GEORGE GEENWOOD . I am a wine-merchant, and live in Fenchurch-street. On the 29th of August this property was in a trunk, which was in one of my own carts, to go to my house at Homerton, from my town house.

JOHN TIMMS . I am cellarman to Mr. Greenwood. On the 29th of August, about half-past ten o'clock in the morning, I left my master's house with the trunk in a cart, with one horse—I drove it to the Blue Posts, in Holborn—I went in to book two dozen of wine, which I was going to deliver there—I came out in three minutes, and the trunk was gone—the porter directed me through Staples-inn, and I went and stopped James Rogan, in Southampton-buildings, with the trunk on his back—I called "Stop thief," and saw him stopped with it.

Rogan. Q. When you called ont yo me, did not I stop? A. No; not till you were stopped.

ANDREW MERSON . I am porter at the Blue Posts. I recollect Timms' cart drawing up at our gateway—Immediately the man went in, I saw Perkins get into the cart, and give the box out to Rogan—he put it on his shoulder—Perkins jumped out of the cart in a great hurry, and ran towards Castle-street, and Rogan ran through Staples-inn—I called the man out, and said, "Do these people belong to your cart?"—he said not, and I ran with him, and saw Rogan with the box on his shoulder—I saw Perkins in custody on the Wednesday following—It happened on Saturday—I am quite sure he is the same person—I never saw him before, but I am quite certain of him.

ROBERT GUNN . I am a corn-factor. I was in Southampton-buildings—I saw Rogan with the box on his shoulder, and people calling "Stop thief, stop that amn with the box—I then ran and stopped him—he then said he was a light porter, and was employed to carry it to Lincoln's-inn-fields—he wished us to let him go, and said he should give us a deal of trouble.

MICHAEL RUSSELL . I am a policeman. I came up and found Rogan in custody, and took charge of him with the trunk.

JOHN KIRKMAN . I am a policeman. I heard a description of the other prisoner given by the porter, and went in search of Perkins—I went to watch a communication with Rogan, and traced a young woman to Golden-lane—on the 2nd of September I took Perkins in Bell-alley, Golden-lane—he was not in the house when I first went, but two women, and when I heard footsteps on the stairs, one of them said, "Here comes Tom "—directly he saw me, he turned to go down again, but I secured him—he asked what I wanted him for—I said for a little job in Holborn—he said b----his eyes if he would go, and he attempted to seize the poker, but I held him; and then he called to the women to bring him a knife—before the Magis trate the prisoner denied knowing each other at all.

ANN MARSH . I live in Robin hood-alley, Golgen-lane. I have seen the two prisoners in the lane talking together, but I never saw any harm of them.

( Property produced and sworn to. )

Rogan's Defence . I was in Holborn. A man stopped me and asked me to carry a trunk to Lincoln's-inn-fields, and he would give me one shil ling—I put it on my shoulder, and went through Staples-inn to the corner, and two mwn called to me at the bottom of Southampton-buildings—I stopped till they came up to me, and said it belonged to them—I said, "There is the man who employed me, "and the man ran off.

Perkins's Defence. I never saw this man before in my life, (Jane Loman, a married woman, gave the prisoner Rogan a good cha racter.)

ROGAN— GUILTY . Aged 25.

PERKINS— GUILTY . Aged 24.

Transported for Seven Years .

1941. ROBERT WILSON was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of September , 1 hat, valuse 10 s .; 1 pair of gloves, value 1 s .; 2 half-crowns, 4 shillings, and a sixpence; the goods and monies of Joseph Henry Ellis , from his person.

JOSEPH HENRY ELLIS . I am a shoe—maker, and live in Queen-court, Suffolk-street, Blackfriars. I was on Blackfriars'-bridge about half-past two o'clock in the morning of the 17th of September—I had been to see my father-in-law—I was perfectly sober—being tired, I stopped on the bridge, and sat down in a recess, as my boot hurt my foot—I was learning my head on my hand—I had passed the prisoner in Chatham—place, with a young woman—and in about two minutes after, I sat down, he came up with the young woman—he went about half—way by the recess, them stop ped, and said something to the young woman, and directly pushed right over me—he held my arm up, and took my money from my pocket—I had about sixteen shillings, but I have called it ten shillings—there were two half-crowns, and the rest in shillings, and one sixpence—he took my had and gloves which were in my hat, and ran away with them—as soon as I could get up I struck him, and took my hat from him—he ran off with the gloves and money—I pursued, crying "Stop thief"—he ran towards the City into Water-street, through Crown—court—he turned round three of four times in a fighting attitude, to prevent my following him, but I still fol lowed him, and saw a watchman at the end of the court—I collared him, and gave him in charge—he ran very quick—he gave me the gloves then—I described my money to the watchman—two half—crowns and some small silver was found on him—I lost about sixpence in copper.

JOHN THOMAS . I am a watchman of St. Bride's. I heard somebody run through the alley very swiftly, and stopped the prisoner—whether I or the prosecutor took hold of him first, I do not know—he gave him the gloves, and sid, "Here are your gloves, if they are yours take them"—the pro secutor was quite sober.

Prisoner. Q. Did I give the gloves in your presence? A. Yes: just as I collared you.

WILLIAM MARTIN . I searched the prisoner at the station-house—I found 2 half crowns, 2 shillings, a sixpence, 10 pence, and 9 halfpence, on him.

Prisoner. I picked up his had and gave it to him, and he thanked me.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Fourteen Years .

1942. JOHN WILLIS was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of August , 1 carpet-bag, and 1 padlock, in a vessel, on a certain navigable river called the Thames.

HENRY HACKNELL . I am an engineer, and live in Frederick-place, Hampstead-road. I went on board the Royal William, a steamer, which was going to Margate, with Margaret M'Henry—she had a carpet-bag—I saw it safe on board—I saw it deposited safe—I took the ladies to show them where it had been placed, and it was then gone—I had placed it there about five minutes before—the lady desired me to search for it immedi ately—I looked over all the carpet—bags in the fore part of the vessel, and

on looking up in a few minutes, I saw the prisoner in custody—I saw the carpet—bag and claimed it—the lady went to Margate, and has since gone to Paris—I know the bag—It contained money and jewellery; and a pad lock which is here.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES . Q. Are you a friend of the lady, or a relstion? A. A friend—I accompanied her from Queen-street, Mayfair—she came in a private carriag, and I came in a coach, as there was too much loggage fro the carriage—the carpet—bage was in the coach with me—the other lady was my mother—the carpet—bag was given into my custody in Queen-street, to put into the coach—It was locked, and Miss M'Henry had the key—I took the Iuggage on board first, leaving the ladies behind—the porter carried the bag on board—he was a porter I found there—I went with him, and saw him deposit the bag in the vessel—I then left the vessel and went on shore—the vessel was moored close to Fresh wharf—I then returned with the ladies to the vessel, and the bag was missed—after it was found the ladies carried it on to Margate—I did not go with them—I saw the bag again on the Saturday—this happened on Tuesday—I had never seen it before the Tuesday—I merely took it to the vessel and de posited it there—I saw it when it was found, and not again till it was brought back from Margate—I swear it was the same bag, but I never saw one like it before—Miss M'Henry is very ill, and unable to come to London—and it was agreed that I should go to Margate and etch the bag—s e was on the way to the Continent.

COURT Q. Was the bag you saw on the deck, and which she claimed, the same as you had brought from Queen-street? A. Yes.

JOHN FIRTH . I am chief mate of the Royal William. I was on the paddle—box, and saw the prisoner take the carpet—bag from where it was deposited, and take it out of the vessal—I followed and secured him with it—he was quite a stranger to me—he took it ashore.

Cross-examined. Q. I suppose most of the people were strangers? A. The passengers were—I was astonished to see him take the bag ashore.

JOHN JAMES . I am a superintendent at the London Steam Packet Wharf—I was on the paddle-box of the Royal William —I saw the prisoner on a lighter with the bag—I said, "Is that your bag, Sir?"—he said "No, it is for a gentleman that is going to Margate"—I said, "You can't go ashore with that bag, you must wait there for the gentleman"—I then went and fetched an officer—I never saw him before.

JOHN RAVENSCROFT . I am an officer. I took him into custody—I was present when Miss M'Henry was on board—I asked her to leave the carpet—bag with me—she refused.

Prisoner's Defence. I had not the least intention of stealing it.

GUILTY . Aged 49.— Transported for Seven Years .

1943. HENRY SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of August , 12 sovereigns, 1 shilling, and 1 sixpence, the monies of Josiah Widnell , his master, to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years .

1944. HENRY LAY was indicted for embezzlement; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 51.— Recommended to mercy — Confined One Year .

1945. ROBERT WOOLEY was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of September , 1 purse, value 1 s .; 10 sovereigns, and 6 shillings, of Count John Tyskiewiez , of the Russian Empire.

JOHN TYSKIEWIEZ . I am a Count of the Russian Empire. On the 2nd of Septemper, about one o'clock in the afternoon, I had a purse, con taining ten sovereigns, in my coat pocket—I felt a very slight touch at my pocket, but should not have looked round, but a gentleman behind slapped my shoulder, and said, "There is a man running away with a purse, which he took out of your pocket"—I saw the prisoner turning the corner of Chancery-lane—I called, "Stop thief, "and he was stopped, and the purse was afterwards produced.

EDWARD IRELAND I am a butcher. I was in Carcy-street—I heard a cry of "Stop thief"—I saw a neighbour running after the prisoner, calling "Stop thief"—I followed him into Searle's-place, and there he hit a young man (with an instrument)who attempted to stop him, and nearly knocked him down—he then went down Little Shire-lane into Ship-Yard, where he threw the purse into a shop, and in about a minute he was secured—and as the policeman brought him back a woman brought the purse out of the shop, and gave it to the policeman.

THOMAS DILLON . I am a law-stationer. I was in Scarle's-place, passing towards Carcy-street—I saw several persons run round the corner, and the prisoner in front of them—I attempted to shop him, and he stunned me by a blow on the side of my head with an instrument, which the officer has—It is a life-protecter—It rendered me unable to attend to buisness for some days, for any time together—I was obliged to go to a doctor's immediately—I am certain he is the man.

WILLIAM THOMAS SEXTON . I am a policeman. I was on duty, and heard the cry "Stop thief"—I pursued the prisoner down into Ship-Yard, where he was stopped, and I immediately took him, and in coming back this purse was given to me by a woman—he was striking every body who came near him with this life-protecter, in a very violent manner.

ANN EVANS . I live in Ship-yard, Temple-bar. I saw the prisoner throw the purse into my shop—I took it up, and delivered it to the police-man as he returned with the prisoner.

( property produced and sworn to. )

Prisoner's Defence. I was going along Fleet-street, and saw a young man chuck down a purse—I immediately picked it up, and went across he way, and was puesued—I heard a cry of "Stop thief"—I went along with the mob after the man.

GUILTY . Aged 22.*— Transported for life .

1946. THOMAS GODDARD was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of Septemper , 1 copper-boiler, value 10 s ., the goods of Isaac Goddard .

JOHN COOK . I am a policeman. On the 8th of Septemper I was in High-street, Stoke Newington—I saw the prisoner coming along with a bolier, about two miles from the prosecutor's—I asked him where he was going with it—he said, "To London;" and that he had bought it at a sale, for 4 s . at Edmonton—I asked what part of London he was going to take it to—he hesitated, and said, "To Whiteehapel"—I said, "Well, You will have no objection to call at the station-house as you go by?"—he went with me—he said there that he lived in Brick-lane—I found he lived with his uncle, who claimed it.

ISSAC GODDARD . I am a corn-dealer, and live at High-cross, Tot tenham. The prisoner is my nephew—I took him in because he had no home—he was to stop with me until he could get employ—he took this boiler from the bay-loft—he bore a good character, but I am afraid he has got among a bad set, and he has had a bad examplein his father.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Recommended to mercy.

Transported for Seven Years .

OLD COURT — Tuesday, Septemper 22 nd, 1835.

Second Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

1947. ISABELLA REID was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of Sep temper , 1 yard and 3 inches of woollen cloth, value 10 s .; and 1 pair of stockings, value 9 d .; the goods of Anselm Jewell ; to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 55.— Confined Three Months .

1948. STEPHEN OXFORD was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of Septemper , 5 quires of paper, value 7 s . 6 d ., the goods of William Batty , and others, his masters; to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 31.— Confined Six Months .

1949. JAMES ALICOT was indicted for embezzlement, to which he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Three Months .

1950. ANN COCKLIN was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of August , 1 ring, value 20 s .; and 1 ring-case, value 6 d .; the goods of Frances Hedgeland .

FRANCES HEDGELAND . I am single, and live in Amos-Yard, Charles-street, Hampstead-road, with Mrs. Brown. The prisoner lodged there a short time—on Saturday, the 22nd of August, I missed a mourning ring and a shawl from my box, in my bed-room—the prisoner slept in the same room.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Had You and the prisoner been very good friends? A. Always—I believe her stock of clothes were better than mine—I never allowed her to pledge any of mine—we were friendly as lodgers—a little woman, who lodged in the house but one night, was also taken up.

ROBERT GIBSON . I live with Mr. Hawes, of High-street, Bloomsbury. I produce a mourning ring a case, pawned on the 18th of August, by a woman in the name of Ann Slater, for 5 s .—I have no recollection of her—I have the counterpart of the duplicate, the other part was brought to the shop by the policeman, and is the duplicate given to the person—It is in my handwritting.

Cross-examined. Q. Do you remember whether it was a little woman, or not? A. No.

WILLIAM MOODY ( police-sergeant S ) I took the prisoner in charge, and found the duplicate I have produced in a pocket-book, at the station-house, in the prisoner's presence—I asked her if it was her property—she said it was—I opened it and found the duplicate in it, with nineteen others—a

woman had brought it to the station-house—most of the duplicates were tied together with a string—Mrs. Brown, the landlady, gave the prisoner into my custody—another woman was given into my custody at the same time—the prisoner went into the privy and fastened the door, and when she came out I took her to he station-house.

JURY . Q. Did she make any remark when the duplicates were found? A. No; she said, "There is a letter in the pocket-book which I wish to have," and there was one—the duplicate produced was in a bit of paper with about three more—the letter was not addressed to the prisoner.

FRANCES HEDGELAND re-examined. This is my case, and the ring, with my mother's name engraved inside—the box was not locked—the other woman slept in the room, and the landlady also.

Cross-examined. Q. What is the name of the little woman? A. Mary Bland—I had seen the ring on the Sunday before the 22nd, which was on Saturday—I had been out to work, and did not want it.

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Three Months .

1951. ANN COCKLIN was again indicted for stealing, on the 20th of August , 1 shawl, value 20 s .; 1 shift, value 3 s .; and 1 bed-gown, value 2 s .; the goods of Frances Hedgeland .

GEORGE CHATMAN . I am a pawnbroker, in London-street, St. Pancras. I have a shawl pawned on the 20th of August by the prisoner—this is the counterpart of the duplicate in my handwriting, it is in the name of Mary Slater, 10, High-street.

CHARLES BAYLIS . I am a pawnbroker in Hampatead-road. I have a night-grown and shift pawned on the 19th of August—I believe it was by the prisoner—this is the duplicate I gave the person.

WILLIAM MOODY . I am a police-sergeant. A woman brought a pocket-book to the station-house, which the prisoner claimed, and in it I found these duplicates.

FRANCES HEDGELAND . These arre my property—all of them were in the same box—the prisoner stated herself to be a servant out of place but never mentioned any family she lived with.

GUILTY .— Confined Three Months longer .

1952. EDWARD MEARS was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of September , 1 handkerchief, value 4 s ., the goods of George Mayers , from his person.

GEORGE MAYERS . I am a bookbinder, and live in Sloane-street, Chel sea. About a quarter to eight o'clock on the evening of the 13th of Sep tember I was in Barbican—my attention was called to my handkerchief by the policeman, and I missed it from my pocket.

CHARLES CHAMBERS . I am a policeman. On the 13th of September I saw the prisoner, in company with two others, in Barbican, between seven and eight o'clock in the evening—I saw him follow the prosecutor, and lay hold of his pocket with his right hand—I went across and got between them—I saw the prisoner take the handkerchief out of the prosecutor's pocket, with his left hand and put it behind him, and he put it into my hand instead of his companion's—I touched the prosecutor on the shoulder, and he claimed it.

Prisoner. Two other young men stood behind me, and chucked it is my face.

( Property produced and sworn to. )

GUILTY .— Aged 17.— Transported for Seven Years .

1953. JAMES FORMAN was indicted for embezzlement.

THOMAS STOREY . I am an earthenware-dealer, in Cornhil. The pri soner came into my employ early in August as a town—traveller—It was part of his employment to receive money and acoount to me for it—he had 25 s . a week—on Saturday, the 15th of August, I left town, and left him in charge of the business—I returned on the following Wednesday—he was not there—I did not see him till the 24th. when he was in custody—he kept a book, in which he made entries—I produce it—articles sold in the shop should be entered here—there is an entry of 8 s . 6 d . to Joyce—the other was received from Wildman, one of my boys, who sold the article, and banded the money over to the prisoner—the boy has entered that—I saw Wildman enter it myself—I said, "Why is it not put down?"—he put it down—the prisoner has entered the sums forward in the book, omitting three or four blank pages—the book would inform me that the prisoner had sold these articles, but it did not state the sale by Wildman—the other two are entered by the prisoner—I could not call his attention to it, as he had absconded.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Were you with the officer who apprehended him? A. Yes; he was taken at his own house—he was in bed—I don't know that he was sick—his wife said he was in bed—It was between eight and nine o'clock in the evening—the prisoner was not on my premises when I came home—the book was on the premises—these entries are for goods sold, some for cash and some on credit—two of the transactions are entered in the prisoner's handwriting—It was Wildman's duty to enter what he received, and pay to it the prisoner—I did not find it entered till I told him to do it—that was Wildman's neglect.

COURT Q. Is there any omission in that book where the prisoner ought to have made an entry? A. Yes; the sum of 8 s . received by Wildman, who handed it to the prisoner—Wildman ought to have put it down—the prisoner has entered every thing else, but in the other transactions the other boys paid him the money—It was the prisoner's duty to make the entry, as being the foreman—It was his duty to see that the others did their duty, and if they did not, he should.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. From whose service did you get the prisoner? A. He was out of employ—I did not get a character with him—I knew of his being in Mr. Pellat's employ—I did not go to Mr. Pellat for his character, nor did ne write to me, nor any body from him—I knew him in Mr. Pellat's employ for three years—I was agent for Mr. Pellat.

COURT Q. Did you ever call the prisoner's attention to these sums, and require the payment of them? A. I did—I stated before the Magis trate that I did not, for I entirely forgot it; but I had sent a witness up to the prisoner to ask him for 3 l . about which there is another charge.

ALEXANDER WILDMAN . I am in the service of the prosecutor. I paid the eprisoner 3 s . while my master was absent—I entered it in the book on the 17th of August, about two hours after I paid him—there is an entry in this book of 3 s . 6 d . for a cream-jug, and 6 s . for paid for the lamp by a cus tomer to the prisoner—I made the entry in about two hours, because the prisoner had not made it—he did not see me do it—I entered it 3 s . 6 d .—I received that money and gave the prisoner 3 s ., and took 6 d . to get my dinner with, because the prisoner was going out—I accounted to Mr. Fore man

for it—I know nothing of the 8 s . 6 d .—that was entered by the prisoner.

Cross-examined. Q. You entered 6 s . two hours after you received it? A. I did not receive it—I saw the prisoner receive it—I received the 3 s .; and entered that about two hours after I gave it him, on the 17th of August—the prisoner could see the book at any time he chose—the 6 s . is in the prisoner's handwriting in one part of the book, and in another part in mine—the prisonere made a double entry of it.

GEORGE TYSON . I am in the employ of Mr. Story. I received 8 s .6 d . and gave it to the prisoner—I did not see him make the entry, but it in is the book—It was for a purchase made by Joyce.

JOSEPH JOHNSON . I am in the service of Mr. Storey. I saw the pri soner receive 6 s . from a customer.

WILLIAM PRITCHARD ( police-constable E 9.) On the 24th of August, between eight and nine o'clock in the evening, I apprehended the pri soner in Red lion-passage, Red Lion-square—he was in the parlour when I went in, and dressed, all but his shoes and stockings—I had waited for him to get up—he appeared ill.

THOMAS STOREY re-examined. The prisoner has entered two sums as having received them on my account, and he could see that the 3 s . was entered—I do not think the boy entered it till after I returned—I sent Johnson to the prisoner for it—I think I sent twice for the money—when he was taken, he showed me a hole in his pocket.

ALEXANDER WILDMAN re-examined. I am certain I entered it before master's return to town.

JOSEPH JOHNSON re-examined. I went to the prisoner and saw him as his house, sitting in the parlour, two days after master's return—I asked him if he was coming to Mr. Storey to pay the money he had received at the shop—he said Mr. Storey would not lose it—that it all—I did not mention the sums—he was well when I saw him—he said he was very ill.

Prisoner. I unfortunately lost the money out of a hole in my trowsers pocket.

(The prisoner received an excellent character.)

NOT GUILTY .

1954. WILLIAM FRIDAY was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of August , 1 coat, value 15 s ., the goods of John Stigant .

JOHN STIGANT . I live at Hoxton Old Town. On the 28th of August I was driving a cab which stood in Mitchell-street, St. Luke's, waiting to take a gentleman in it—It is a four-wheeled cab—my box-coat was on the dickey—I was called in-doors by the gentleman, but I saw the prisoner come up, turn his head round, and then take my coat off—I sung out, "Holloo! drop that"—he threw it down and ran by—I followed calling "Stop thief"—he was brought back within five minutes—I swear he is the man, I saw his face distinetly—there was a gas-lamp directly over him.

Prisoner. People both before and behind him told him I never touched it. Witness. It is false; there was nobody near him but some boys who pursued him.

WARNER GREEN ( police-constable D 45.) I was coming down Brick-lane, and heard the alarm of "Stop thief"—I saw the prisoner running two or three hundred years from the cab, and stopped him—I found three

duplicates on him—I asked what he had been doing—he said he had been doing nothing—I asked him what he ran away for—he said because the men hallooed "Stop thief."

( Property produced and sworn to. )

Prisoner's Defence. I never touched the coat—I picked it up as it laid there—there were people both behind and before me when I passed the cab—a lady and gentleman were talking there; they came over and said they nevrer saw any body touch it.

(Benjamin Chant, bridle-maker, playhouse-yard, Golden-lane; and William Benton, chair-maker, Rose-square, Golden-lane, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Recommended to mercy. — Confined Three Months .

1955. JOHN STIGGEN was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of August , 1 handkerchief, value 2 s .6 d ., the goods of William Sentance , from his person.

WILLIAM SENTANCE . I am a tea-dealer and grocer. I was going along Esstcheap, on the 27th of August, and felt somebody at my pocket—I turned round and saw the prisoner close to me—I collared him imme diately, and saw my handkerchief on the ground, close behind him—I saw nobady near, him—I had just used my handkerchief.

WILLIAM STEPHENSON . I am a fellowship-porter. I was passing along Eastcheap, and didtinctly saw the prisoner snatch the handkerchief from the gentleman's pocket; and as the gentleman turned round, he dropped it behined him.

JOHN OSBORNE . I am an officer. I took him in charge—I produce the handkerchief.

Prisoner's Defence. I was going along; a gentleman came and took me for taking his handkerchief—he held me a minute, and that man came by—he said, "I dare say that is him who took it, so take him into custody"—h took me to the office, and then swore he saw me take it; but at first he said, "I dare say it was him"—there were two other lads near.

WILLIAM STEPHENSON re-examined. I did not say, "I dare say he took it"—I saw him distinctly take it—nobady else went near enough to take it—there were two lads in his company, but he had not time to pass it to them, and they escaped.

GUILTY . Aged 15.— Transported for Seven Years.

1956. SAMUEL HALLIDAY was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of October , 2 tables, value 13 s .; 5 blankets, value 12 s .; 6 chairs, va lue 14 s .: 1 set of fire-irons, value 2 s .; 2 candlesticks, value 1 s .; 1 flat-iron, value 4 d .; 1 Italian-iron, value 4 d .; 2 kettles, value 4 s .; 3 growns, value 7 s .; 8 frocks, value 20 s .; 7 shirts, value 5 s .; 10 caps, value 6 s .; 1 pair of hand-boots, value 5 s .; 1 shawl, value 6 s .; 1 quilt, value 3 s .; 2 pair of sheets, value 12 s .; and 14 shilling, and 1 sixpence; the goods and monies of William Edgecomb .—2nd COUNT , stating it to be the pro perty of Ann Edgecomb .

ANN EDGECOMB . I live on Saffron-hill. I was in prison befor Chirst mas, and sent for the prisoner to bail me out—he same to me, and I said, "Will you release me out of here?"—he said, "Yes, I will"—he put his hand in his pocket, and said, "I have got but half-a-crown and a few halfpence; have you got any?"—I said, there is 14 s . 6 d . on

the mantel-shelf, in my parlour"—he said, "Allow me to get it;" and I gave him the key of my house to go and get the money—there were twenty-four duplicates in the same box as the money was in—I never saw him for six weeks; and when I came out, every thing was gone—I had not a single thing left—I was in prison for getting tipsy, with my baby in my arms.

Prisoner. Q. I believe your husband has left you? A. Yes; thirteen months ago—he told me if I was distressed for money to sell some stoves—t ere was some account between him and the landlord—I saw the prisoner in the street one day—he seemed to feel for me very much, on account of the loss of my husband—I said, "I have got some fixtures at home, if you will come home and sell them for me, I will pay you for you trouble" and he sent out to a broker, but he would not give enough for them—I showed him the agreement with the landlord, and he said I was right in selling them; and he brought a woman who paid me for five stoves—I gave him 3 s . for his trouble—I went to prison on the 19th of October, I think, and sent for him two days after—the property in ques tion was both up-stairs and down-stairs—I sold nothing but the rubbishing things—I swear all the things were in my house when I gave him the key—t ere were twenty-four pawnbroker's tickets, and amongst them one for a clock—he sold the duplicate of it to one Tilley—I had pawned the clock, and he took that duplicate, and a great many more.

JOSEPH TILLEY . I am a tailor, and live in Porter-street, Newport-market. I bought a ticket of a clock of the prisoner, and redeemed it—the clock is here I got it by means of the duplicate.

ANN EDGECOMB re-examined. I went to prison on the 29th or 19th of October—It was on a Monday—and on Tuesday I sent him a note—he came on Wednesday—I left the property stated in my house—my hus band's name is William—I had locked the house, and had the key in my pocket—the prisoner never returned me the key—I saw him two months after I came out, in Holborn, and then he ran away from me.

Prisoner. Q. Did you receive a copy of your commitment from me, in a letter? A. Yes; two days before I came out—this is my clock, which I had pawned—I never authorized him to sell the duplicate, or any thing.

Prisoner's Defence. I met her in Wilderness-row, selling apples—she told me her husband had run off to America, and had left her very desti tute—she said that her husband had taken the stoves down, and that they stood all together in the front room, and asked if I could sell them for her—I asked if they were her own—she said they were—I called in the after noon, and she produced an invoice of fixtures in the house, and also of the stoves, bought of the next-door neighbour—I brought Mrs. Morgan, who offered twenty shillings for them, and gave her two shillings and sixpence as a deposit; and she desired her not to come for them till the evening, as they were not paid for, and they had been bought of the next-door neigh bour—In the evening we removed them, but it being dark, we left one behind—I saw her on the Wednesday, she said she had a letter from her husband—she was beastly intoxicated, and let the child fall—I called on the Monday—she was nearly drunk again then—she asked me to walk to Mutton-hill, where her husband had sent some things—she pulled some duplicates out of her bosom, and said, "I have nothing to give you for your trouble but the duplicate of the clock," which she gave me, and a pair of old stocking—I left her, being ashamed of her company, she being so drunk—I have been overseer of the parish some years—I left her, and

heard no more of her till I met the woman about the stoves, who said she was locked up for being disorderly, and said if I would go and get the stoves, she would give me one shilling and sixpence—I went to the prison to her about the stoves, she had not sent to me—she said the landlord would give her two pounds to give up possession of the house, and she told me to go and see if he would—she said, "There is some silver in the house"—she did not know how much—I paid one shilling and threepence for a copy of her commitment—I went to the house—there was nothing but an old mattress, four chairs, a door, and a rug—not finding the money, I would have advanced it, but I could not get any body to bail her, as they said she would be drunk again—I sent the copy of the commitment to her at the prison, by one Nicholson, with a letter, saying she had deceived me, and there was no money there—she had been four days in prison, and it is not likely she would have fourteen shillings on the shelf, and not send for it—I asked Tilley if he wanted a clock—he said he did, and unfortunately, the man who put it up, said it was his clock, he had sold it, to be paid for at two shillings a week, and he had never got a farthing for it—to show her abandoned character, no longer ago than the day I was committed, on the return of Tilley from Guidhall, he saw her rolling drunk in the street, on his way home—she is a notorious character—there was no furniture in the house—Nicholson went with me to look at the stoves, and I lent the key to a man named West, To sleep on the mattress in the house, and he can state what there was there.

ANN EDGECOMB re-examined. When I cam out I found three old chairs, an old writing-desk, and one old bed left—I sold them to Mrs. Morgan.

Prisoner. It is very improbable I could have carried away the things, either by night or day—they require some time to take away.

COURT to ANN EDGECOME . Q. Why not take the money to prison with you? A. I did not know I was going to prison—all these things were in the house—I put my bed on six chairs in the parlour when my husband left me—there was a table—the kettles were in the kitchen, and one in the parlour—the blanket on the bed—the candlesticks and iron on the kitchen mantel-shelf—the forks and gowns in the parlour—the boots were by the side of the bed in the par lour—they were all in the house when I left—I never gave him a duplicate of the clock—I had not parted with the key till I gave it to the prisoner—the money and things were in the house when I delivered him the key—after coming out of prison the agent of the house who lived next door, had sent in—I sold an old writing-desk and one old chair—every thing else was gone but a broken-backed chair and an old bed.

Prisoner. Q. Was there any fastening or latch to the back door? A. It had a strong iron bolt to it, which was bolted, and it was latched—the back window was not broken—there was no appearance of any body having broken into the premises.

Prisoner. Q. When I entered the house, there were baskets full of apples, one on the ground and another on the table, which she said she paid 5 s . 4 d . for, out of the money she received for the bed if that was added to the 3 s . 6 d . given to me, and 2 s . 6 d . which I saw in her bosom on the Monday morning, considering she had to support herself four days, it would make a great hole in the money.

Witness. I had some apples which I gave 3 s . for—I was selling apples and received money for them—I bought the apples before I sold my furni ture—I pawned my gown for that on the Friday before I sold the stoves.

(Francis Salmon, of Hoxton New Town, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 48.— Transported for Seven Years .

1957. ELIZABETH SHIRLEY was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of August , 2 shirts, value 10 s .; 2 handkerchiefs, value 5 s .; and 1 wine-glass, value 6 d .; the goods of Charles Knapp .

CHARLES KNAPP . I am a general salesman, and live in St. James's-street, Marylebone. On the 24th of August, the prisoner came to my shop and paid me some money—she returned in an hour and a half. and bought a flat-iron for sixpence—I missed a wine-glass from my counter and saw it in her basket, which she had in her hand—I then found it two shirts—I asked what reason she had to take them—she said if I would let her go, she would pay me for them—I gave her in charge—they have my mark on them—she was searched at the station-house, and two silk handkerchiefs were found in her pocket—they are mine, and are worth fifteen shillings all together.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Used she to deal at your shop? A. Yes, for a considerable time, and paid for the articles by instalments—I have heard her husband is in distress—she bore a respectable cha racter—she has four children.

JOHN LONERGRAN ( police-constable D 49.) I was called to Mr. Knapp's shop, and found the prisoner there—I found two silk handkerchiefs on her and thirteen duplicates—she said if Mr. Knapp would forgive her, she would pay for the property.

GUILTY . Aged 36.— Recommended to mercy.

Confined Two Months .

1958. WILLIAM KERRIDGE was indicted for embezzlement and larceny.

THOMAS WATTS PALMER . I keep the Cock and Crown, at Hampstead, The prisoner was my servant, and was employed to receive money—on the 3rd of August he applied to me for change for sovereign for Mrs. Johnson, who owed me 4 s .—I gave him 20 s . in silver, and he was to bring me back a sovereign for ithe never returned—I did not see him till the 22nd.

MARY JOHNSON . My husband is a gardener; we live at Hampstead. Priory. On the 3rd of August the prisoner brought me the change for a sovereign—I gave him a sovereign, and he gave me 20 s .—I returned 4 s . to him, which I owed Mr. Plamer, his master.

JOHN CHAMBERS ( Police-constable S 167.) On the 22nd of August, I took the prisoner at the crown, Edgwarc-road—I told him I wanted him about that job his master's—he said, "Oh! that is all right; that is settled"—I said, "what have you done with the money you took from your master's?"—he said, "I got drunk like a fool, and spent it."

GUILTY . Aged 29. Confined Three Months .

1959. MARY TRANTUM was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of August , a coat, value 26 s .; the goods of William Richard Brockway .

ROBERT MESSENGER ( police-constable A 1.) On the Wednesday, the 26th of August, I was at the station-house at Hackney, and at the prisoner carrying a basket—I took her into custody, and found a blue coat in it—I

asked her where she got it from—she said she borrowed it from her uncle at Tottenham, for her husband to go to a christening—I found the prose cutor, who claimed it—he lives two miles off.

WILLIAM RICHARD BROCKWAY . This coat is mine—I lost it on the 23th of August from the stable at Upper Clapton—It is worth 10 s .—It was inside the gates.

Prisoner's Defence. The coat was outside the front gates of the gentle man's house at Clapton. I went up to ask them to buy some combs and saw the coat; nobody owned it. I went to see a young woman who was in custody, and was taken myself.

(William Micklin, Kent-street, Borough, gave the prisoner a good cha racter.)

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined six Months .

1960. LOUISA NEWMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of August , 1 waistcoat, value 2 s .; the goods of Thomas Hunt .

WILLIAM HUNT . I am a labourer, and live College-street, Homer ton. On the 26th of August I was at work at Clapton—I saw the pri soner in company with Trantum, the last prisoner—I saw the prisoner go down Loraine-place, and go in at a gate where my father was at work—the other prisoner was remained outside—the prisoner came out with something in her apron, and they walked away together—the prisoner had a basket—I consequence of information from my father, I went after them and found them in Upper Homerton—I asked the prisoner what she had in her basket—she said nothing belonging to me; if she had, I might take it out—I looked and saw my father's waistcoat, and said I should not take it out, but she should go the station-house—we had a little scuffle—she scratched me, but I gave her in custody—the other prisoner went away.

THOMAS HUNT . I lost this waistcoat from the lawn of a house at Clapton. I had shut the gate, but not fastened it—anybody could push it open—on missing the waistcoat I went to my son who was waiting op posite, and told him—he went in pursuit.

JAMES KENT . I took the prisoner into custody, and produce the basket and waistcoat.

Prisoner's Defence. I went through a gentleman's gate, and saw the waistcoat on a grass plot—thinking it was thrown away. I took it.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Recommended to mercy. — Confined Six Months .

1961. WILLIAM CONDON was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of September , 1 handkerchief, value 2 s .; the goods of James Simeon , from his person.

JAMES SIMEON . I am a general dealer, and live in the Strand. On Friday evening, the 11th of September, I was in company with a lady in the street leading from St. Martin's church to the Haymarket—I felt some thing at my coat pocket—I turned round and saw the prisoner with ano ther young man—the prisoner had my handkerchief concealed in his jacket—h ran away, and I after him—he ran down across the strand towards Hungerford market—I saw him stopped without losing sight of him—he threw the handkerchief away—the lady with me picked it up—I did not see him throw it down, but I had seen him put it in his jacket—I felt it safe about five minutes before—the lady is since gone to Brighton—I am certain of the prisoner—It was dark, but I had light from a lamp.

JOHN STAR . ( Police-constable F 71.) On the 11th of September I was

in the Strand, and heard the alarm of "Stop thief"—the prisoner ran across, pursued by the prosecutor—I joined in the pursuit, and he was stopped in the Adelphi.

( Property produced and sworn to. )

Prisoner's Defence. I heard the alarm, and ran with the mob, and was taken into custody.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months .

1962. JOHN PERRY was indicted stealing, on the 24th of August , 1 box, value 3 s .; 1 tippet, value 2 l . 10 s .; 1 shawl, value 2 l .; 5 gowns, value 30 s .; 12 yards of printed cotton, value 7 s .; 1 waistcoat, value 8 s .; 8 frocks, value 6 s .; 1 veil, value 3 s .; 1 pair of trowsers, value 10 s .; 2 bonnets, value 5 s .; 5 pinafores, value 1 s . 6 d .; two shirts, value 2 s .; and 5 petticoats, value 7 s .; the goods of John Jones .

ANN JONES . I am the wife of John Jones, and live at Gravesend. On the 24th of August I was in London—I packed in a box the articles stated in the indictment, at Mrs. Simpson's Parnham-place, Ratcliff—I employed the prisoner to carry the box to the steam-packet—I had told him I would go with him, but he fetched it away in my absence—I had pro mised to be back at half-past three o'clock to let him have it, but I could not come back till evening—I saw it again at the Thames police about a fort night after, broken open, and the articles stated in the indictment gone—they were altogether worth full 12 l —I had told him I would accompany him with it, but finding the packet did not go that day, I did not go home—I did intent to let him have it to take, except in my presence.

RACHAEL SIMPSON . I live in Parnham-place, Ratchiff—delivered the box to the prisoner—he said he had come for the box to take to the steam-pocket wharf—I delivered it to him.

SAMUEL PERKINS ( police-constable K 117.) In consequence of infor mation, I apprehended the prisoner in Rosemary-lane—I said, "I want you; I suppose you know what it is about"—he said he had just heard some thing—I said "It is about the box of clothes you were to take to St. Katharine's wharf, what have you done with it?"—he said, he did not know—I said, "Have you sold it, or pawned it?"—he said, he did not know what had become of it—he offered to show me where he had taken fresh lodgings, and there was the box and most of the articles—I found the shawl and gown in pledge afterwards—he pointed out the pawnbroker's shop to me—the lid of the box was split, and the top was out of it, in a cupboard by the side—there is a pair of trowsers, a waistcoat, and gown missing.

JOHN DELBRIDGE . I am in the employ of Mr. Cordery, if Aldgate. I produce a shawl and gown pawned on the 25th of August, by a person re sembling the prisoner very much.

ANN JONES re-examined. These all belong to my husband and myself—the things missing are worth 30 s .—the prisoner was a stranger—he heard me ask for a porter, and offered to take it for me, as he was in dis tress.

Prisoner. I got too far gone in liquor which is the reason I did not take it to the Packet-office—I returned with it to the lady's house, but she was not at home.

RACHAEL SIMPSON re-examined. When he called, he said he came for the lady's box to take to the wharf, and I gave it to him—I told him the lady was not at home and hesistated to deliver it to him—he said the lady

told him to come at half-past three o'clock, and it was then five minutes after the half-hour, and I delivered it to him—he brought it back at six o'clock, and said another packet was going at half-past six o'clock—he had it in a truck—he did not take it out, but took it away again—he waited a few minutes at the door.

GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined Six Months .

1963. MARY SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of August , 4 handkerchiefs, value 2 s .; 4 pinafores, value 2 s .; 2 bed-gowns, value 2 s .; 4 pair of stockings, value 2 s .; 1 petticoat, value 2 s .; 1 towel, value 6 d .; 3 aprons, value 18 d .; 2 handkerchiefs, value 5.; 1 frock, value 3 s .; 5 aprons, value 2 s . 6 d .; 1 cap, value 2 s .; pinafores, value 2 s .; and 1 petticoat, value 1 s .; the goods of Richard Joyce , her master.

HARRIET JOYCE . I am the wife of Richard Joyce, and am a laundress—I live in Church-hill, St. Pancras. The prisoner was employed as a daily servant—she did not sleep in the house—I found several articles at her lodging, which had been intrusted to her to wash, and I found a quan tity of duplicates at her lodging, No.17, Ashby-street—she went there with me, and pointed out the things, and gave up the duplicates to me—the things had been intrusted to my care to wash—I had missed some of them for some time.

WILLIAM CLOES ( police-costable E 75.) I produce the articles.

EDWARD ROPE . I am in the service of Mr. Button, a pawnbroker, at Battle-bridge. I produce some articles pawned by the prisoner.

( Property identified. )

Prisoner's Defence. She said she would not hurt me if I gave up the duplicates of what I had, and she went with the officer to examine my lodging, and in the evening she came and took me to the station-house, out of my bed.

MRS. JOYCE . I did not promise she should not be hurt, but a woman who was with me, I think, said I should not hurt her.

(Mary Watts, Cheyne-place, St. Pancras, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 35.— Confined Three Months .

1964. WILLIAM WINGROVE was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of December , 1 mare, value 17 l . 1 cabriolet, value 25 l .; and 1 set of harness, value 6 l .; the goods of William Chard .

FREDERICK SEEKER . I drive a cab for William Chard, and live in Brown-street, Bryanston-square. On the 22nd of December, I had a cab and a brown mare in barness—I left it on the rank in Oxford-street—I was absent about twenty minutes or half an hour—when I came back, the cab and horse were gone—I never gave the prisoner permission to drive it—I did not see it again for nearly eight months, when it was at the station-house near Piccadilly.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. What day of the week was it that you lost your cab? A. Monday—I went to tea, at my own house, about a quarter of a mile off, and left it there for the waterman to take care of, between six and seven o'clock in the evening.

WILLIAM CHARD . I live Little Queen-street, Edgeware-road. I lost my cab and mare on the 22nd of December—I saw the mare again on the 19th of August at the station-house in Vine-street—I have not found the cab —the mare is worth about 17 l ., and the cab 25 l .

Cross-examined. Q. You offered a reward, I believe, for them? A.

Yes, one guinea—I did not know Charles Cooper at that time, nor Richard Ayres—I had seen him, but never spoke to him—I know Robert Edwards—I offered 5 l . the week following. I think.

CHARLES COOPER . I am a cab -driver, and live in Orchard-street. On the 22nd of December, I was in the Portman-street rank with my cab —I saw the prisoner standing on the pavement, between Richard Ayres and Mr. Chard's cab , which was No.4—I was behind Ayres on the rank—I saw Dick Ayres go up to the prisoner, who was on the pavement, and speak to him— Dick was going away—the prisoner said, "Don't be long"—he said, "No, I shall not be more than twenty minutes or a quarter of an hour"—the prisoner, as soon as he was gone, got into the cab, and backed into the rank—I said, "Where are you going, backing that cab ? "—he made no answer, but drove off with it—It was a yellow cab —It was about seven o'clock.

Cross-examined Q. You drive a cab ? A. Not now; I have not driven for some time—I do what I can get to do—I am at home with my friends—I have not driven a cab for some months past—I left off seven or eight months ago—I was only out with that man's cab , minding it on the rank for him—I was not driving a cab at the time—I drove last for a man in Cambridge-mews—I cannot recollect his name now—I left him because the money I gave him was short—I did not give him enough money to satify him—I drove for him about three weeks—my last master's name was Roe—I left him because I could not give him money enough—I drove for him about a month or six weeks; and before that I drove a cab for Ray ner, of Baker-street—I left him for short money—I drove for him, off and on, six or seven months—he was the first person I drove for—before that I lived with Mr. Owen, at Highgate—I left him because I didnot like my situation, it being in the country—there were no money transactions wrong there.

Q. What have you been doing since you left the last cabman? A. As sisting my mother at home, carrying out boxes for her—she is a milliner, in Orchard-street, Portman-square—she keeps a private house there—I knew Chard by name, but not by sight—I did not hear any thing about the money offered—I never heard of any reward at all—there was a re ward offered for the cab —I have not applied to Mr. Chard to know how much I was to have—I saw it in the newspaper soon after the cab was lost—I think it was 1 l .—I did not understand you before—I think the second reward was 2 l .—5 l . was not offered—I never spoke to Chard till he came up to Marlborough-street office—I went there to hear the case by accident—I knew Dick at that time—I did not know Edwards—I was at the office before Dick —he did not come the day I was there—he came on the Thursday—I had not seen him that day—I never knew the prisoner before—I did not see him again, after he took the cab, till I saw him at the office last month—I saw him take it off the stand—I swear he is the man—I did not know any thing about the reward—I only saw it in the paper—I never spoke to Dick about the reward—I never conversed with him about what we were to have—he lived within a quarter of a mile of me at the time—I was in the habit of seeing him often—I never had anyicon versation with him about any reward, nor in his presence—I have not had any portion of it—I have not asked Mr. Chard for any—I never had any conversation with him about it, nor with any body—I do not except to get it.

Q. Did you say, at your first examination, that you saw the horse and cab taken away, but did not know the man? A. I did not notice whether

that was the mare or not; but I noticed it was Chard's cab and number—I said it was the prisoner—I did not say I did not know who the man was—I never saw him before that night—I did not know who he was.

Q. Did you not state at the Grenadier public-house in Oxford-street, in the presence of more than one person, that you did not know who the man was that took away the horse and cab ? A. Not in that house; I was on the rank, and a person called out, "Are you going to the office to speak?" I said, "No; I shall not; for I shall say I know nothing at all about it:" but when I went to the office, Chard and Seeker were talking together—Chard said to him, "It is a strange thing Fred is not come:" and he said, "There was a little fellow that saw it go off the rank"— Fred said, "Yes; here he is"—then Chard came to me and said, "Did you see it go off the rank?" I said, "Yes; but I do not wish to go up at all about it;" but he went over to the office, and a sergeant came to me and said, "Did fetched me, and said, "Go and say what you saw."

Q. Do you allow men to steal property, and not give an alaram? A. I did not know he was going to steal it—I know it was Chard's cab, and had been Seeker with it that day—I never said that I should not know the person who took it—I have never been in custody, on my oath; nor ever charged before a Magistrate.

RICHARD AYRES . I lodge in James-street, Oxford-street. On the 22nd of December, I was on Portman-street rank with my cab, and saw the prisoner standing very nearly opposite the cab which was taken away—I went to him, and said, "Is this your cab ?" he said, "Yes "—I said "I wish you would have an eye to mine, while I go and get my tea"—he said he would, and asked how long I should be gone—I said, "Not long," and when I returned, the cab and man were gone—I took particular notice of the prisoner—he was a stranger to me—I went and looked him hard in the face.

Cross-examined Q. Who do you drive for now? A. John Dann: I have driven for him, on and off, about seven months, but have had an ac cident, and broken my arm, about twelve weeks ago—I drove for Ledger before Dann—we could not very well agree—I was short of months for one thing—I drove for him I think about nine months—I drove for Mitchell before him—I was on and off with him, two or three time—I paid him 12 s .—he said I would not do for him, he must have more money, and so I went away, seeing I had not got any more money—I was with him altogether about fourteen months—I was helper at Lady Ashburton's stables before that, and they went out of town—there was nothing about being short of money or corn there, to my knowledge—I had nothing to do with the corn—the coachman fed the horses—there was no charge against me, I swear—I have seen Cooper about ever since I have been driving—we do not live a great way apart—I cannot read—I heard about the reward two or three days afterwards—I know I heard there was 5 l . reward—I belive that was fortnight or three weeks after the occurrence—I saw Cooper almost every day—I did not talk to him about the reward—I did not talk to him any thing particular about it—I do not recollect saying any thing to him about any reward—I swear I never talked to him about it—we met when he was on the rank, and he might speak to me—I heard some of them talking about the reward—I do not exactly know who—I do not know any one in particular—there were a good many coachmen and cab -drivers—I do not think Cooper was present when I first heard of it—I did not take notice, and cannot swear

any thing about it—he did not speak to me about the reward—I did not call at his mother's house—I do not know where he lived—I gave infor mation to the prosecutor directly the man came and asked where his cab was—I did not know but what he was gone with it, till he came and asked for it—I have been at the Grenadier, in Oxford-street, many times when Cooper was there—I did not hear any body ask him if he was going before the Justice about it—I never heard him say he did not know the man—he told me he should know the man directly he saw him—they came after me, and told me to come to the prisoner's examination—I did not go with Cooper—I went with them, as they said they had got the man—I went with Fred, I believe they call him—when I got there, I heard it said that the prisoner had got the horse in his possession—I then stated he was the man I had seen on the rank.

ROBERT EDMAN . I am a carman and excavator, and live at South wark-mews, Paddington. On the afternoon of the 23rd of December I was in Oxford-street, and saw two omnibuses near the coach-rank at the corner of Orchard-street—I saw the prisoner driving a very handsome turn out round the corner of Orchard-street, that is the next street to Port man-street—I had a man with me at the time—I spoke to him—the pri soner said, "Come, go on; what are you obstructing the road for?"—my man said something to me, and I saw it was No. 4 cab he had got, and he had a gentleman inside driving.

Cross-examined Q. This took your attention? A. Yes, it was from half-past two to half-past three o'clock—It was seventy or eighty yards from where the cab was lost—I am sure he is the man—I saw it was a yellow cab —I think it was yellow—I think I stated before the Magistrate that I could not tell the colour of it—I should not have noticed the num ber so much, if it had not been for my man—he was about two paces before me—his name is William Goddard—he worked for me occasionally—I do not know where he lived—he worked for me last about Christmas time—I was him this morning at work—he was not bound over—I could have found him, if they had asked for him—I will not swear whether they did ask for him or not.

WILLIAM HIGGS . I live in Jermyn-street. St. James's. I bought a brown mare of the prisoner on the 27th of March, in King-street, Seven-dials—It has since been claimed by Chard—I gave him twelve guineas for it—It was about seven o'clock in the evening—It was dark at the time—It was brought from a stable, in a yard in Holborn, to King-street—I had seen it by day-light, and drove it out—I had been bargaining for it for a week before.

Cross-examined. Q. Was twelve guineas, in your judgement, a fair price? A. Yes—his conduct was fair and open—there was nothing in it to induce me to think he came by it improperly—that was the first time I had seen him—I am a soda-water-manufacturer.

THOMAS JOSEPH WEST ( police-constable C 15.) On the 19th of August I apprehended the prisoner in Green Dragon-yard, Holborn—I asked if he recollected selling a brown mare to Higgs—he said he did, and that he had the receipt at home in his cupboard; that he gave nine guineas for it—I went to his lodging in Short's Gardens, and there I found it—I after wards inquired at Startford and Romford for a person named Jones, but could not hear of him—the prisoner was with me—we went to Smithfield on Friday to look for him, and when we got there, Edman came up and

identified the prisoner as the man he saw driving the cab the day after, Mr. Chard was there.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you seen Chard and Edman talking together before he pointed him out? A. No—I went to the prisoner in my officer's dress—I went to Smithfield, and to Romford by the request of the Magis trate—the prisoner was allowed to go at large at first, in consequence of going with me to identify Jones; after Edman identified him, he was detained in custody—I produce the receipt which I found at the prisoner's house.

COURT . Q. Did it appear soiled when you found it? A. It was in a card-case, and appeared as it does now.

Witnesses for the Defence.

CHARLES HOWARD . I am a milkman, and live in Short's Gardens, King-street, Seven Dials. The prisoner lives next door to me—he is a butcher by trade, but he has driven a cab for eighteen or twenty months—In January last I went to Smithfield to sell a horse for my father, and met him there—I was the brown mare that he is charged with stealing—I saw a person describing himself as Jones of Stratford—It was on a Friday, the latter end of the month—I was present when the prisoner purchased the brown mare—I saw the money paid, and saw the man give a receipt for the money—I think it was 9 l . 9 s .—this is the same receipt—I saw it on the table—from that time the prisoner has been constantly working about town with the mare in his cab—I have seen it at all hours, constantly at work, till he sold it to Mr. Higgs—I myself have driven it up Oxford-street, Regent's Park, Edgeware-road, and Piccadilly—he and his man have constantly been in the habit of driving it—he has one cab —he drives by day, and his man by night—he goes out about half-past eight o'clock in the morning himself.

COURT Q. When did you last see the cab he drove? A. The day he was taken—It now stands in Green Dragon-yard, where it usually stands—he bought a cab of one Earl at first; that was a yellow one, with an old-fashioned body; but from about December, he has had a new-fashioned one—I saw the horse at Marlborough-street Office—It is the same horse as he drove in his cab —I had seen Jones before, and have seen him once since—I heard of him at Barnet fair—he stands about five feet six inches—h does not resemble the prisoner—he has rather a long face.

Q. What makes you recollect the day of the purchase of the mare? A. Because I sold a horse for my father—It was on a Friday in January—he had two horses before that; one black, and the other a brown mare—he kept them in Green Dragon-yard.

SAMUEL GROSSLAND . I am a proprietor of hackney-coaches, and live in Euston-mews, Euston-square. In January last I saw the prisoner buy a mare in Smithfield—I cannot positively state the date—It was the last week of January, and either the last market-day, or the last but one in January—It was the mare in question—he bought if out of my hands—I had been bargaining with Jones for it, and he bought it over my head—I had bid 8 l . for it, and was very vexed at losing it—Jones asked 10 l . for it, but the market was fast closing, and I thought he would he would take less—the prisoner came and asked the price of it—I said, "I am bargaining for it, and as a tradesman, I hope you will let me have the advantage of it"—he said, "Oh no," and he bid 9 l . for it—I had seen Jones with it, I should think two hours before—I never knew him before—I did not see the receipt given—I was not before the Magistrate.

JOHN SMITH . I am a cab -driver. Before January I had Driven a cab

for the prisoner, and I drove for him all throught January and February—on a Friday, at the latter end of January, I recollect his coming with this brown mare—It was driven about in the cab —I drove it constantly myself—he drove it in the day-time and I at night—I remember on the 22nd of December; the prisoner had b been out himself that day with the cab —he came home about seven o'clock in the evening with his own cab , which was a yellow one—on his coming home I changed the horse and took the cab our for the night—I do not exactly recollect the date, but that very night I was on the stand that it was lost from, and heard the loss mentioned.

COURT . Q. Did any body send you to that stand? A. No; I set down a job near Cumberland-gate, and drove there afterwards.

HENRY CONLEY . I acted as waterman at Portman-street stand on the Sunday before the prisoner was taken into custody—Cooper and Ayres were there—they were backwards and forwards all day—the prisoner came to the stand and was seen by both Cooper and Ayres—I am sure they were there, and he was there above two hours as first cab , which is a very con spicuous place—they were backwards and forwards continually while he was there.

THOMAS WEEKS . I was in the service of Mr. Higgs, a soda-water-Manu facturer. I have left him about a week—I have known the prisoner three or four years—I was bargaining with him for the brown mare for a week and one day before master agreed to buy it—I knew where to find the prisoner at any time.

THOMAS SEELEY . I am a hackney-coachman. I borrowed a brown mare of the prisoner for three or four days last February—I saw the same mare at Marlborough-street—I drove her about in the public streets for three or four days—all about town.

WILLIAM CHARD re-examined. I have taken no pains to produce the waterman who was at the stand when the cab was lost—I did not think he was wanted.

CHARLES COOPER re-examined. I do not recollect the Sunday evening before the prisoner was apprehended—I do not know when he was appre hended—I do not recollect seeing him at the stand shortly before I went before the Magistrate—I did not see the prisoner there that Sunday, I will swear.

RICHARD AYRES re-examined. I did not see the prisoner on the Sun day before he was apprehended—I never saw him before the night the cab was lost—It was lost between six and seven o'clock—It was quite dark—I never saw his face before—he was dressed in a dark coat buttoned up, a light handkerchief, and black beaver hat—he was in my sight three or four minutes—I went close to him and looked at him, because he was a stranger to me—I saw this waterman there on the Sunday, but did not notice who had the first cab .

NOT GUILTY .

1965. RICHARD TYRRELL was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of August , 1 pair of shoes, value 8 s ., the goods of Charles Claydon .

CHARLES CLAYDON . The prisoner lodged with me for a fortnight—he left on the 26th of August, and paid what he owed—I had a pair of shoes, which I had worn the day before he left early in the morning—I had left my shoes in the sitting-room—he must go through that room to go out—when I came down I missed my shoes—his old ones were placed there instead of mine—I rode after him, and found him at Twickenham, with the shoes on his feet.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Weeks .

1966. JOHN WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of August , 1 handkerchief, value 2 s ., the goods of Saik Alli , from his per son; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

SAIK ALLI ( through an interpreter. ) I was in a public-house, and two or three men were ill-using me, and going to beat me—I came out to call the watchman—I and my shipmate stood together talking—the prisoner came by and took my handkerchief out of my pocket—I directly took hold of his hand, and gave him in charge, and found the handkerchief in his hand.

JOHN FLENHAM ( police-constable K 18.) On the 29th of August, between eleven and twelve o'clock at night, the prosecutor came to me and made signs that somebody had ill-used and struck him—I went with him to the public-house; and I was called over the way by a man who bad been ill-using a female; and while I was there the prosecutor came over with the prisoner in one hand and his handkerchief in the other—I said to the prisoner, "How came you to do this, my man?"—he said, "Oh, he did not see me do it"—I took him to the station-house.

( Property produced and sworn to. )

JOHN WAKEFIELD ( police-constable N 4.) I have a certificate of the prisoner's conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—I was present on the 6th of April, when the prisoner was tried ( read .)—I am sure he is the boy.

Prisoner's Defence. I was on the other side of the way—he came and caught hold of me, and said he took it out of my hand"—It is all false.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Transported for Seven Years .

OLD COURT .— Wednesday, September 23, 1835.

Third Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

1967. HENRY EDMONDS was indicted for stealing on the 14th of August , 20 spoons, value 6 l . 14 s .; and 12 forks, value 24 s .; the goods of George Samuel Evans , in his dwelling-house; to which he pleaded.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.

Transported for Life .

1968. THOMAS HARDING was indicted for feloniously forging, on the 9th of July , a certain request for the delivery of 200 pens, with intent to defraud Charles Terry ; to which he pleaded.

GUILTY . Aged 51.— Confined Two Years .

1969. ANN SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of July , 2 shirts, value 8 s .; 1 gown, value 4 s .; 1 shawl, value 3 s .; 1 pair of shoes, value 2 s .; 1 table-cloth, value 3 s .; 1 flat-iorn, value 10 d .; 1 knife, value 1 s .; 1 basket, value 1 s .; 7 yards of printed cotton, value 7 s .; and 1 coat, value 18 s .; the goods of James Smart ; and that she had been before convicted of felony; to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 49.— Transported for Seven Years .

1970. LUCY NELSON was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of August , 1 bonnet, value 3 s .; the goods of William Blundell , her master; 1 sovereign and 2 shillings, the monies of William Henry Blundell ; and 2 half-crowns, the monies of Edward Blundell ; to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Six Months .

1971. HENRY SHEPPARD was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of September , 4 sovereigns, 3 half-crowns, and 6 shillings; the monies of William Penfold .

WILLIAM PENFOLD . I am a mariner, belonging to the Pentworth schooner, which laid in the London Docks. The prisoner applied to me about a week before the robbery to take him into my employ—I took him out of charity, and on the 15th, in the evening, when I went to bed, I took four sovereigns, three half-crowns, and six pence from my trowsers pocket, and put them in my waistcoat pocket—I had three-halfpence and a key in another pocket—I hung my colthes up at the state-room door—I missed my money the next morning—the prisoner was then missing—I found him in the Deptford-road—the officer said, "What ship do you belong to?"—he said, "None at all"—the officer found on him four sovereigns, three half-crowns, and two shillings—I said, "Where did you get that jacket?"—he said, "I bought it out of part of the money, for three shillings, and will show you where I bought it"—he said he was sorry for what he had done, and hoped I would let him go.

WILLIAM KING . I am a policeman. I took him in charge for stealing this money—I searched him, and found four sovereigns, three half-crowns, and two shillings on him—he said he was sorry for it.

Prisoner's Defence. I was down in the cabin—a little boy asked me if I would like to have that money—I said, "Yes"—he gave it into my hand, and asked if I should like to spend some of it.

GUILTY . Aged 13.— Transported for Seven Years .

1972. JOHN SULLIVAN was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of August , 1 handkerchief, value 6 d .; 1 reticule, value 1 s . 6 d .; 1 purse, value 2 d .; 1 sovereign, 13 shillings, and 4 sixpences; the goods and monies of Thomas Hudson , from the person of Sarah Hudson .

SARAH HUDSON . I am the wife of Thomas Hudson, a music-seller. On the 12th of August, at ten o'clock at night, I was in Charles-street, Drury-lane, walking with my daughter—I had my reticule in my hand, with the string twisted round my finger—It was snatched from me at the corner of Charles-street, and the broken string left twisted round my finger—I never recovered it—the person ran away—I followed him—the prisoner resembles the man in height and stature, but he was differently dressed—I cannot tell whether he is the man—he made his escape—this was Wednesday-night—I saw the prisoner last Monday at Bow-street.

ELLEN SAUNDERS . I live in Drury-lane. I have known the prisoner nearly six months—I observed him frequently idling about but never spoke to him—I stood at the door of the house, where I have lived nine years, and saw a whole lot of young fellows standing at the corner—the policeman came and sent them away, and in a few minutes the prisoner came back with one or two more—two ladies came up with reticules of a dark colour—the prisoner stood inside a place, and snatched the reticule, and ran away—I saw him do it—the lady cried, "Stop thief"—I followed the lady, and told her to go no further, or she might get hurt—I was telling somebody what I had seen, and the policeman heard me—the prisoner was not in a company with any body when he did it.

Prisoner. Q. How was I dressed at the time? A. I cannot say what dress he wore, but I know his face very well.

Prisoner. She keeps two houses of ill-fame, and has only come for her

expenses. Witness. I was never before a Justice in my wife—I would not have gone up, if I had not been heard to say what I knew.

WILLIAM PLUMB ( policeman F 6). Another woman described the pri soner to me—I cannot find her—my brother sergeant told me what this witness knew—I went to her, and was obliged to summons her before she would come forward—I apprehended the prisoner in Charles-street, on the 31st of August, in bed—on the way to the station, he asked me what I took him for—I said, "On suspicion of stealing a reticule"—he said he wished me luck with it, but if he had known what I wanted, he would have had my b----life, or I should have had his, before I should have taken him, and that he had a poker behind the door on purpose—I did not tell him what I took him for till I got him out in the street.

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Transported for Seven Years .

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

1973. CHRISTOPHER BUNBURY was indicted for administering to Hester Banbury certain poison, that is 1 drachm of white arsenic, with intent to kill and murder.—2nd COUNT , for causing the same to be taken, with a like intent.

HESTER BANBURY . I am the prisoner's wife, and have been so thirty years. I lived with him till within these two years—I have been with my son, but my husband slept at home—we have not been on very good terms for some time past—on Wednesday night, the 5th of August, my husband came home about ten minutes before eleven o'clock—my son was then out, but he came home in a quarter of an hour, or twenty minutes—my husband fetched some beer—he went into the shop and got a couple of eggs, and some wood to light the fire—he beat the eggs up in a basin—he did not go out of doors for the eggs—they were in my son's shop—he did not say what he was going to fetch—he fetched the eggs and the beer without saying what he was going to do with them, but I knew when he was beating the eggs up what he wanted—I thought he wanted a little egg-hot—I thought he had a cold—I put part of the beer into a saucepan and put it on the fire—I afterwards mixed the beer and eggs together, and simmered them over the fire, and poured them out into a jug—I went into the shop then to serve a customer, leaving nobody but my husband in the room—my son had not come in then—I was absent from the room two or three minutes—when I came back the egg-hot was poured out into half-a-pint glass, and a half-pint-pot, into two separate vessels—I told him I did not want half of that—I saw it was poured out for me—he made no reply—he drank his, which was in the half-a-pint cup—he did not offer me which I would take—he never said a word; and at that time my son came to the door—I let him in and offered him some of the egg-hot—he took two sips of it, and I drunk the remainder myself, except about two table-spoonfulls, which I left at the bottom of the glass, and put the glass on the mantel-piece—after that I rinced out the glass in some water, and threw the contents out into a clean pan which was on the table—there was nothing in the pan before—It was quite clean—no one had come into the room but my son—I went to bed soon after—my husband went to bed before I drank it—I was taken ill about an hour after I was in bed—I had not been to sleep—I found myself so ill, my stomach and bowels were dreadful—I was very sick and my bowels were very bad—I had a great deal of pain in my stomach—I never had such a feeling before—I have been dreadfully ill in my bowels and stomach, but never to equal that—It was a very sharp pain, and I was all in a heat and perspiration—I continued ill

for nearly a fortnight—I was sick during the whole of the night, and Vomit ted throughout the night, and continued to vomit for a week afterwards—my bowels were very much affected, and I was obliged to get out of bad many times in the night—In the night when I was so violently ill, I said, "Good God! what have I had, what have I taken?"—my husband's answer was, "There is always something the matter with you"—I do not recollect that I had fallen asleep before the pain came on—he got up in the morning about half-past five o'clock, and did not say any thing to me, nor ask me how I felt my self—he did not speak a word to me—he did not speak to me during the whole of the night, except what I have stated—he went away to Somers'-town—I got up about six o'clock and came down—I found something had been put into the pan—my son told me he had vomited on it—I took care of the par till Mr. Edwards came—I gave him the pan—before I gave it him I observed a sediment like white powder at the bottom of it—I emptied the pan, leaving the sediment at the bottom—I showed that pan and sediment to Mr. Ed wards—I remained in the room till be came—I continued ill for a fortnight—I find myself a great deal better now, but I am a little poorly at times.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. You have said that you had frequent pains in your stomach, but never so bad as that—It is the case then, is it, that you are occasionally ill? A. It is not the case—I have not frequently had pains in my stomach—I have sometimes—I am occa sionally attacked at night, but very seldom—the surgeon saw the pan at eleven o'clock next morning—I am sure he saw it on the 6th—I did not ask my husband where he got the beer from, and I cannot find where it was—I have been to three or four public-houses—we had a little chand ler's—shop at somers'—town, but we were living then at my son's in De vonshire-street, Lisson-grove—my husband carried on the business at Somers'-town—I never went with him there—he was taken up on this charge, three weeks after the 5th of August, I think—he did not sleep with me after I was taken ill—he slept with my son, in the house—I put proper name is Banbury—we have been married thirty years, and had six children—when my son came home, he said he had been having a little something to eat with a friend, and had had enough, and did not want any thing to drink, as I wanted him to drink a little with me—he was very sober.

COURT Q. I suppose you had taken egg-hot before? A. Yes; in the winter time—this was not the first, second, or third time of my tak ing it.

WILLIAM BANBURY . I am the son of the last witness, and the prisoner I keep a shop in Devonshire-street, Lisson-grove—my mother has lived at my house for some time—my father came there, and slept with her—they have been at variance for some time past—on Wednesday night, the 5th of August, I came home and found my father and mother in the house—I saw a glass on the table when I came in, with egg-hot in it—my mother asked me to partake of a little—I drank about a couple of table-spoons of it—my mother partook of the remainder—after she had drank, I saw her pour a little water out of the kettle into the glass, empty it into a clean pan, and then place the glass on the mantel—piece—she left the room to go to bed, and then I went to bed directly—about half—past four o'clock in the morning, I was seized with vomiting, very badly—I got up and vomited a little into the same pan—I retired to bed again—I vomited twice, but the second time I did it in the pot, in the bed—I felt a very

griping pain in my stomach—It went off by degrees—I saw my mother about six o'clock in the morning—my father was then gone out—the pan was still in the room—when my mother came down, she carried it up stairs—I sent for Mr. Edwards about eight o'clock in the morning.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you been dining out that day? A. I had—I dined about one o'clock, with a friend—I came home at about ten mi nutes to eleven o'clock,—I had drank half—and—half, but nothing else—I drank very little indeed—I never said that I had had enough to drink with my friend—I was quite sober when I came home that night, and do not forget what happened—I said that I had taken enough to drink already.

Q. What was the cause of the variance between your father and mother, was it not your dissolute conduct? A. I was rather loose—I went out at different times, and they used to call me to account for it—that was not above three times—I slept in my own house, and have continued to do so—I am not married—I slept alone—I have always slept alone in that house—my father slept with me while my mother was ill—he slept up stairs, I think, the night before he was taken into custody, but my mother did not go to sleep with him—she slept down in the parlour with me—she sat up in a chair all night in the room—I had a bed which I was lay ing on—Mr. Edwards took the contents out of the pan on the 6th of August—I was not up stairs when he took them.

Q. Pray did your variance with your father go to the length of threat ening to run him through with a knife? A. He attempted to do it to me once, which aggravated me, and I was going to do it to him afterwards, only my mother took the knife out of my hand—some men came in, but no policeman—I forget whether one was a policeman in plain clothes.

COURT Q. Was there any other occasion in which a policeman inter fered with you? A. Yes; afterwards.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Did you threaten your father's life twice? A. No; I quarrelled with my father on another night—I had no knife then—I did not threaten his life—I made such a noise as to bring a policeman in—that is five or six months ago—my father was absent all day on the 6th—he came home as usual at night—about a year or nine months back, I had some arsenic in my own shop—I have not since—my father was not in the habit of taking egg-hot when he came home, only on a cold winter's evening—he did not take it above six or seven times in six months—he never took it except in winter time—my father remained in the house ten or twelve days after Mr. Edwards was called in—he was in the house ten or twelve days, I think—Mr. Edwards had spoken to him—he was taken up on the 23rd of August—he slept along with me eight or nine ningts—he did not sleep with me after we refused him the house—my mother knew of that—he slept down at him own place, I believe, the night before he was taken up—he was taken at No. 17, Little George-street, on the other side of Hampstead-road, where he has a shop—I believe he attended the shop regularly.

Q. Did he not continue to sleep with you, till you refused him the house? A. I wished him to keep his distance—Mr. Edwards told him in my presence that it was best to separate—I refused to let him come to the house that night—I did not tell him why I refused him the house—he was taken up about the 23rd, I think—he was taken up in September, I think, about the 2nd—the arsenic was brought home to us on the 23rd of August—Mr. Edmonds told us it was arsenic on the 23rd.

COURT . Q. On the 23rd of August you say Mr. Edwards told you it

was arsenic? A. Yes; he spoke to my father before that, I think—to the best of my recollection Mr. Edwards spoke to him about eight or nine nights after I was taken ill, but did not satisfy us that it was arsenic till the 23rd.

HENRY EDWARDS . I am a surgeon, and live in Crawford-street. I was sent for on the 6th of August, to Mrs. Banbury in the morning—I did not go until about ten o'clock—I found her labouring under vomiting and purging—after asking if she had taken any thing in the way of food to disorder her, she produced to me a brown pan, at the sides of which were sticking some white powder—I scraped it off with my nail, and took it home with me—I did not try any experiment with it, till nearly a fortnight after—I deposited it in the mean time in my desk, sealed up—I then ascertained it to be arsenic, to a certainly—I have some of the powder in my pocket now—that was about the 22nd or 23rd—After I had done that, I apprised Mrs. Banbury and her son what it was—I had not seen the prisoner then—I saw him on the evening of the day after I tested the powder, and explained to him what I discovered the powder to be, and suggested to him, that rather than let the thing come before the public, if they could come to terms, to separate—I advised him to separate—he at first rather accused me of acusing a separation between him and his wife, but then he acquiesced in it and left that night—It might be past ten o'clock—arsenic is a deadly poison in the form we have it—If it was put into liquor and drank by a per son, it would poison them—a small quantity would produce sickness and purging, vomiting would no doubt bring up part of it—that would in a great measure prevent its deadly effect, especially if only a small quantity was taken—a few grains remaining in the stomach would be sufficient to pro duce death—I did not take home above twelve or fifteen grains—I took home as much as would kill two people, but I did not weigh it—I tested about half of it, and have six or seven grains here.

Prisoner's Defence. After fetching the beer, I fetched some gin to mix with it, which we always have—she always drank hers out of a glass, which she put on the table herself that night—I always drank mine out of a half-pint cup—I poured mine out, and felt myself very ill that night, which was the reason I took it—I had been so for some time—I drank my half-pint, and as she was coming in at the door from the shop, I was pouring hers into the glass—what there was remaining in the jug I poured into my own half-pint, and drank it up—as to her saying I said there was always something the matter with her, I never answered at all—I was asleep all the while—If she was out of bed I did not know it—my son that day had been up the water as far as Queenhithe, on an excursion with Mr. Tilley, an egg-merchant, and he gave him drink—before I poured the egg-hot into her glass she had been in the shop to serve a candle to a customer who came in, and before she got to the door another customer came in, and she served him—she came into the room, and at that time I had poured it into the glass—when my son came to the door she went and let him in—she came back—I had got the door in my hand going up stairs as he came in, but seeing it was him, I stopped, and she asked him what sort of a day he had had for pleasure—I did not know myself that he had been out on an excursion—I asked him where he had been—he said he had been with Mr. Tilley to Queenhithe—I said, "Why I knew nothing about it, you keep things very close"—I asked what sort of a day he had had; he said—"Very pleasant"—he had had plenty to eat and drink, and spent a very pleasant day altogether—I bid him good night, and left him and his mother in the

room—I went to bed, and was gone to sleep when she came up—I had been up full half-an-hour.

NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Justice Williams.

1974. THOMAS POOL was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of August , 1 watch-case, value 6 l ., and 1 pillar plate, value 1 s .; the goods of John Palmer , his master, in his dwelling-house.

JOHN PALMER . I am a watch-maker, and live in Great Marylebone-street. The prisoner has been in my employment, and left on the 11th of August—he had been with me from the 13th of April—I have a shop which is under the same roof as the dwelling-house—on the 11th of August he did not return to his work—I was not aware of his going—I expected him as usual—I saw him last about five o'clock on the Tuesday evening—I did not miss any thing that evening, but on the following morning when I took out my watches, I missed a gold watch-case, and pillar plate—I saw it again at the Marylebone Police-office, on Wednesday, the 24th or 25th—I had not given him permission to take any thing form my shop at that time—I said a week before to him and the other men, that I would not allow any one to take any porperty out of my shop hereafter—I found the watch-case in the possession of the pawnbroker, and the pillar plate was attached to it—the watch is my own manufacture—It was a second-hand case.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. How long had he been in your em ployment? A. Since April 19th—four or five months—I placed great con fidence in him—he has sold things, for which I allowed him a commission—he was allowed to take in things to repair himself—he took in this watch to be repaired—It was to have a fresh movement—I do not believe that I owe him any wages—I used not to put down what I paid him—he absented himself two days from work—he has at times taken things from the shop, and brought them back again—he was taken on the 22nd of August, having left on the 11th—It was said he would come forward if I whished—I did not see him from the 11th till the 22nd, and then he was at the police-office—he had not met me with Mr. Bourne before that—I allowed him to receive money for me—he did not pay me by instalments for articles he had—he paid me once for a musical box; but that is not mentioned in this indictment—he paid me by instalments for that—he certainly had a few goods of me, and I took them off his wages—he had some seals of me, which he paid for by instalments out of his wages—he has had several things of me, and paid me in that way—he has frequently purchased, and paid money, for me—I gave him full power to act on my behalf—he has had property at his house, and afterwards brought it back—he has had property of considerable value.

COURT Q. What sort of property? A. Watches, occasionally have to go to Clerkenwell; I have allowed him to take them home in the evening, to take them, and bring them up with him in the morning—I sold him some seals, which he said he had customers for—this case was not for sale at all.

THOMAS GRATTON . I am in the employ of Mr. Cotterell, a pawn broker, in Shoe-lane; I know the prisoner by sight. On the 12th of August he brought to our shop a gold watch-case to pawn—I advanced him four guineas on it—he came again on the 15th, and had more money on it, as much as made it 5 l . 10 s .—I have got the case in my possession now, and produce it—he gave me the name of Pool.

Cross-examined. Q. Is this the ticket which you wrote by his direction A. Yes; it is "Pool, 32, Lancaster-street"—I do not know whether that is his right address—I think he came before twelve o'clock—It was broad daylight.

JOHN CLAPSON . I am a policeman. I went in pursuit of the prisoner on the 22nd of August, as Mr. Palmer applied to me—I found him at No, 13. Fisher street, Red-lion-square, at half-past cleven o'clock at night—he was at a person's named Boume, on the second floor—I asked him if he knew Mr. Palmer—he said, "Yes"—I asked if he knew any thing about a gold watch-case of Plamer's—he said Mr. Palmer would be here directly—I then told him he must consider himself my prisoner, and must go with me—I took him to the station-house in Marylebone-lane; but, previous to that, I searched him in the room—I was searching his waistcoat pocket, when he put his hand in his trowsers pocket, and drew out this ticker and this pillar-plate—I have had them both in my posscssion ever since—as I took him to the station-house, he told me he had taken it, and that some body had swindled him out of some money, and he had taken it to make up some money.

Cross-examined. Q. Did not he add that it was his intention to re deem them afterwards? A. No; I never asked him that—Mr. Palmer gave me a direction where to go to find the prisoner.

WILLIAM INGLIS . I was in the employment of Mr. Palmer in August last. The prisoner left his service on the 11th of August—I did not know he was going to quit—before he went away I observed him roll up a gold watch-case in a piece of paper, and put it into his pocket—there was a watch-frams inside it—these are the two articles—I said nothing to him—I had never heard Mr. Palmer say any thing to him about the case—I had heard him say that it was to go to Mr. Pool's father to be done—he was the man that was to do part of the work: but he did not say that the prisoner was to take it—Mr. Palmer had said there were things irregular, and not in their proper places; and he desired that none of the men should take things out of the shop—he said so in the prisoner's presence,

Cross-examined. Q. Do not you know there were very confidential pro ceedings between the prisoner and Mr. Palmer? A. Yes; he trusted him a great deal more than an ordinary workman—he used to buy some few things if Mr. Palmer and pay by instalments—the prisoner lived in Lan caster-street—I have been there more than once—I cannot say the number—h always went by the name of Pool at our house—he never mentioned to me that he was under a temporary inconvenience by not being paid his wages.

JOHN PALMER re-examined. I know the watch-case—It is the one I missed at the time in question; and this is the pillar-plate belonging to the watch

Cross-examined. Q. Do you know where the prisoner lived at the time? A. Yes at No. 32, Lancaster-street—his proper name and address is on the duplicate.

WILLIAM INGLIS re-examined. It was proper to wrap the watch in paper.

Prisoner's Defence. I wish to explain the nature of my taking any thing out of the shop—It is customary to put watches in our pocket to take out which are wanted in a hurry—my fellow workman had taken a watch out, and he said, "You must take no watches out," but that did not apply to things to be repaired.

NOT GUILTY .

1975. THOMAS POOL was again indicted for stealing, on the 9th of June , 1 watch, value 4 l . 4 s ., the goods of Julius Stauffer and others.

JULIUS STAUFFER . I am a watch-manufaturer in partnership with two others. I have known the prisoner four or five months in Mr. Palmer's em ploy—I have been engaged with Mr. Palmer in business—Mr. Palmer sent him to me when he wanted any thing, telling me what sort of goods he wanted—I generally gave them to the prisoner for Mr. Palmer to make his choice of on sale or return—he came to my shop on the 8th and 9th of June—on the 8th he came in the name of Mr. Palmer for two silver watches—he said he wanted one for a customer—he asked for two to select from—I gave him two, one was 4 l . and the other four guineas—next morning he brought me back the 4 l . one, and gave me the money for the four-gui nea one, and he said, if I had a similar watch to the one kept, they could sell it—I gave him one four-guinea silver watch, and gave him a bill with it, in the name of Mr. Palmer—I never had any dealings with him on his own account—I have not been paid for the watch.

JOHN PALMER . I am a watch-maker. The prisoner was in my employ—I had dealings with the last withness and his partmers—on the 8th of June I sent the prisoner to him for two silver French watches—he brought back two of that description—I sold the four-guinea one, and returned the other by Pool on the following morning, but did not send him for any other—I did not receive any other watch by the prisoner from Mr. Stauffer—I never heard from the prisoner any thing respecting that watch—I should not have known it, had I not sent my man down to know if they kept a large musical box of mine—I know nothing whatever of any third silver watch.

Prisoner's Defence. I fetched the watch from him, and showed it to a friend of mine—he promised payment for it in three days—I did not receive the money—I intended to allow my employer a profit on them, but the man did not pay me, and since I have been here, I have received a ticket of the watch pawned for 1 l . 7 s . in my name—I told Mr. Stauffer I had re ceived information of it, when I was apprehended.

GUILTY . Aged 40.— Recommended to mercy. — Confined One year .

Before Mr. Justice Williams.

1976. JOHN FORD was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Ralph , on the 7th of Septemper , at St. Gre gory by St. Paul , and stealing therein 1 umbrella, value 3 s ., his goods.

GEORGE BLAKE KING . I am clerk to Mr. Cheeseman, of Bell-yard, Doctors' Commons. I remember seeing the prisoner near our house on the 7th of September, between one and two o'clock in the day, walking backwards and forwards before Mr. Ralph's door and in the passage—I knew nothing of him before—a young woman who works at the house came out and shut the door after her, and in about three minutes after wards I saw the prisoner come out of the passage with an umbrella—he came from the passage off the steps—there are two doors—It was the street door not the door which the girl had shut—he was carrying the umbrella at his side, shut—I saw nothing in his hand when he was walking back wards and forwards—I was in our office—the window looks into the pass sage—we occupy the office of Mr. Ralph—on seeing the prisoner come out, I went and told Mr. Cheeseman, and he told me to run after him, and collar him, which I did—he had not got above thirty yards from the house—I asked him whose umbrella it was—he said it was his—I collared him, and told him to come back with me, for it was not his; and, with the assist ance

of a man, I brought him back to the office; and after I had fetched a policeman, I saw Mr. Cheeseman pick up a key where the prisoner had been standing, just as the policeman was going to take him away—he was standing there after I had brought him back—I am quite sure the man I took with the umbrellas was the same man as I saw come out of the house.

Prisoner. Q. Did you see me enter any room in the house? A. I did not, nor on the stairs.

WILLIAM RALPH . I am a tailor, and live in Bell-yard, Doctor's Com mons. The inner door of my house opens with a latch-key—on the day in question, I had an umbrella—I saw it about half-past twelve o'clock in the day, in the front room, first floor—I did not miss it till I was alarmed—I was not at home at the time it was taken—when I saw it, it was in the possession of the policeman, at Guildhall, between two and three o'clock the same day—It was my umbrella, I value it at 3 s .—It was nearly new.

WALTER FORD . I am a policeman. I received the umbrella from Mr. Chesseman—King was present at the time—I have had it ever since.

Prisoner. Q. Did you not find the latch—key belonged to my street door when you searched my lodging? A. The landlady said it was the key of her own door—I did not try it to prisoner's lodging—I have no recol lection of his requesting me to do so.

GEORGE BLAKE KING . That is the umbrella I took from the prisoner.

( Property produced and sworn to. )

Prisoner's Defence. Every lodger has a key of the same lodging—I had the key nearly five years—I went to Mr. Cheeseman's house, in Bell-yard, to inquire for Griffiths, a law-write—I was told he lived in Bell-yard—I did not know at which house—I inquired at three houses—It seems he lives in Bell-yard, Temple-bar, instead of Doctors' Commons—when I entered the house I had an umbrella—I left it in the passage—I met a person in the passage who said he did not live there, and when I came out I took this umbrella, thinking it was my own, and while the young man was gone for a policeman, Mr. Cheeseman was about searching me—they let me go, for I had nothing else about me—while he was searching me, the key must have fallen—he either took it out of my waistcoat pocket, or it fell—the policeman entered at the moment, or he would have let me go—I had no keys to open any door, to take any umbrella.

GEORGE BLAKE KING re-examined. I did not see any body search the prisoner at all after I brought him back—Mr. Cheeseman is in the country—h was present when I brought the prisoner back—when I took the pri soner he would have got from me, but a man helped me to secure him.

GUILTY of Stealing only. Aged 42.— Confined Six Months .

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

1977. FREDERICK ROBINSON was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of September , at Hammersmith , 1 mare, value 10 l .; a saddle, value 12 s .; and 1 bridle, value 8 s .; the goods of Joseph Warner .

JOSEPH WARNER . I live at Hammersmith, and keep horses for hire On the 3rd of September the prisoner came to me to hire a horse, to go in Hounslow; about half-past five or six o'clock in the morning—I let him a mare for that purpose—he never brought it back—I found it at Brentford on the Saturday—he hired it on the Thursday—he was in custody when I found it—the saddle was in the station-house, and I found the bridle with the mare,—I had never seen the prisoner before.

GEORGE TAYLORE . I live at Old Brentford. On Thursday, the 3rd of

September, I saw the prisoner at the Crown, at Brentford, sitting outside the door, on the seat—the marre stood in the road—the ostler was looking at it, as if he was going to buy it—I asked the ostler if it was for sale—he said, "Yes"—the prisoner was sitting there with his head down to the ground, within hearing—I offered the prisoner 8 l . for it—he said it was worth 18 l .—I said I would give him 8 l ., for it—he made no answer—I went away for nearly two hours, and, when I came back, the oatler told me something—the mare was not there then—the prisoner was there talking to a policeman—he said a person named Graham had taken the horse away, and he wanted to go away—Pascoe was not the policeman—the prisoner was lying on the bench very tipsy at the time—I first saw him at eleven o'clock in the morning, but did not speak to him then—he was coming down Brentford on the mare, very tipsy.

JOHN PASCOE . I am a policeman. On the 3rd of September, about half-past seven o'clock in the evening, I received information, and went to the Crown, near Gunnesbury-lane—I saw the prisoner lying on a bench. outside the door—he said a person had taken his horse away—I stopped there some time—the prisoner and Taylor went into the parlour together—I went in too, and saw Taylor put down some sovereigns on a table, more than six, and said, "If the mare is right I will give you this for her"—he said, "She is right, I bought her at Tattersal's"—shortly after the mare was brought back—the prisoner went out, took hold of the bridle, and said to Taylor, "Do you mean to have her?"—I told Taylor it was no use buy ing her, for it was my intention to take the prisoner into custody, on suspi cion of stealing the mare; which I did, and took him to the station-house—w en he got there, he said he bought the mare of a man named Bush, of Bristol—I said, "You did not buy her at Tattersal's then?"—he said, "Yes, I bought her at Tattersal's, but I bought her in the name of Bush, of Bristol"—next morning, about six o'clock, I asked him if he chose to give any further account of it—he said he bought her Six weeks or two months ago, at Tattersal's, in the name of Bush, of Bristol, for 25 l ., and he gave the name of Frederick Robinson—he was taken before the Magistrate on Friday—he was very drunk when I found him.

NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Justice Williams.

1978. MARY STARKIE was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of June , 1 pillow-case, value 1 l .; 6 half-crowns, 8 sixpences, and 240 far things; the goods and monies of William Holt , her master; and MARTHA STARKIE , for feloniously receiving, on the same day, the said goods and monies, well knowing them to have been stolen: against the Statute.—2nd COUNT , for feloniously receiving from an evil-disposed person.

SARAH HOLT . I am the wife of William Holt, of Mabb's-place, Fetter-lane, in the parish of St. Dunstan; he is a green-grocer an fruiterer. The prisoner, Mary Starkie, came into my service the latter end of May—the other prisoner is her mother—I knew her at the time to be her mother—she came to my house once—I only saw her there once—I attend Far ringdon-market to sell my goods, and so does my husband—at the time Mary Starrkie was with us, I had 60 l . Which I had earned and saved up—there were two sovereigns, four half-soverigns, 5 l . in sixpences, and 2 l . in shil lings—It was chiefly in silver—I kept it in a box under my bed, locked up—the prisoner left me on the 12th as I missed it on the 19th—I did not miss any thing till after she went—I went to get 18 l . to pay a bill, and the money

was all gone—I missed it all at once—three weeks before she came to me, the money was all safe—I did not look at it from that time till nearly a week after she left—I had no other servant while she was with me—the box was not broken—It had been opened by a false key—I had the charge of the box alone, not my husband—a brooch that was in the box was also gone—I missed six half-crowns, 5 s . in farthings and six sixpences, out of a drawer—two of them were new ones—It was all I was worth—I missed the money out of the box, on the 19th—I missed the property from the drawer, at her last examination—the money in the drawer was there three weeks after she came into my service—I missed a pillow-case about the same time as the money from the drawer—I had seen it safe when I saw the money—I had seen it safe about a month before I missed it—I missed a pair of women's boots, a silk handkerchief, a child's pina fore and cap—I had kept them down stairs in the drawers, which were open—I had not missed any of the linen articles before I lost the money—I missed the "Pilgrim's Progress" with my children's ages in it—I saw the book and the brooch again, at the examination at Guildhall, in Au gust—I had not seen the book for two months after she had been with me—about three weeks before she left me, she told me she had been mar ried a month before she came to me—I did not give her warning, but she gave me a week's warning, saying her husband wanted her at home, and she went home to her mother when she left me—she was living at her mother's—I went there a week after she left me—my sister keeps the house they lived in—I was often at my sister's, but never saw the rooms they occupied—I found the book I had missed on the mother's premises—w en I missed the money on the Sunday, I went with the officer and looked about the place, and under the bed I found a handkerchief, a pillow-case, and cap, and my book—this was the Sunday after she left—I found my brooch in a little box on the table, in the front room, and the book also—the prisoners were in the Compter at that time—they had been taken up on the Wednesday—at the second hearing, when I went home, I heard something, and went over to Mrs. Graham, who gave me a key.

Mary Starkie. The pillow-case is my mother's—the brooch is mine—I have had it three years—she lent me the book to take home to read on Sunday, and she lent me the boots to go home in one night, when it was wet. Witness. I did not—I never gave her leave to take them or the book—these are my pillow-case and brooch.

SARAH GRAHAM . I live in Mabb's-place. Fetter-lane. I know the pri soner Mary, by her living with Mrs. Holt—I remember her coming to my place once, about two months before she was taken, she asked me if if I had got a key to lend her, to get Billy, Mrs. Holt's child, a clean pinafore out of the drawer—I asked her why she did not send Jemmy to the market—she said she had nothing to put on him—I then lent her a key—she brought it back in a few minutes—I live oppo site Mrs. Holt—she did not keep the key three minutes hardly—It was early in the morning—I had seen Mrs. Holt go off to the market just before, in a great hurry—It was about ten o'clock—the prisoner said, some time after, that she was going to be married, and she was in the family-way—I sold her some little things, which I did not want—she said the young man she kept company with had got £20 left him, and with that she was buying the things—that was after she borrowed the key—It was not long before she went away, when I heard of the loss of the money—I

gave the key to a person to take over to Mrs. Holt—I have not had it since—I never lent the prisoner more than one key—I had no others except a very large box-key.

JAMES LLOYD . I am an officer of Farringdon Without. I was applied to, to apprehend the prisoners on the 19th of August—I went and appre hended them between mine and ten o'clock at night, at No. 1, Brackley-street, Golden-lane—the daughter was in the garret of the front room, and her sweetheart was on the bed—the mother was not at home at that time; she came home, and I took her the same night, between ten and eleven o'clock—I found the brooch on the table in the front garret, which is a sitting-room—next day I went and found the book on the same table, and the pillow-case on a pillow in the bed; and under the bed a pinafore, cap, a pair of boots, and handkerchief—they rented the front and back garrets—t e bed was in the back room—I found nothing else which has been claimed—I found a good deal of other property, five new gowns, three gown-pieces unmade, one on the premises, and two at a dressmaker's, two remnants of calico, and ten napkins—I found under the tiles, out of the window, a pillow-case marked W., four towels, a table-cloth marked F., two shawls, two children's frocks, two lengths of muslin for window cur tains, three cotton aprons, two petticoats, five children's shirts, a length of flannel, a black veil, four lengths of lace, three handkerchiefs, several caps, a bonnet, and other things—the gowns appeared all nearly the same size, to fit the prisoner Mary—some of them appeared to fit the elder prisoner—I have had the articles I found in my possession ever since.

SARAH FIELD . I am niece of the elder prisoner. I have been living with her about three months from this time—I lived with her at the time her daughter Mary lived with Mrs. Holt—I remember her bringing money to her mother's—It was principally silver—I saw a sovereign and a half brought at one time—I saw her bring about 1 l . or 2 l . of silver at a time, as near as I can tell—I have seen her bring money two or three times a-week—I did not hear them say where it came from—the mother sent me with a gold ring to Mary once, and told me to tell Mary to go up and get her some money if she was not too tired—I never asked where they got the money from, not heard the mother ask her—I did not know—I saw some money put into a bag between two beds, by the mother—I have seen that done more than once—they slept on that bed—the mother had relief from the parish at the same time.

JAMES LLOYD re-examined. I have Mrs. Graham's key, and produce it.

MRS. GRAHAM . This is very much like the key I lent her, but I cannot sweat to it, because I never noticed it—I gave it to Mrs. Jennings to take over to Mrs. Holt—she is not here—I have no doubt it is the key, it was one like this.

MRS. HOLT . I have tried this key—It will open my drawer, but will not touch the box.

( Properly produced and sworn to. )

Mary Starkie's Defence. The money I never saw, nor did I know they had any—the brooch is my own; I bought it when I lived with Mr. Taylor, of Great Prescott-street, three years ago—I had the best part of these things before I went to live with Mrs. Holt.

MARY STARKIE.— GUILTY Aged 18.

MARTHA STARKIE.— GUILTY . Aged 49.

Transported for Fourteen Years .

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

1979. NICHOLAS POWERS , JUSTINE INNES , and JOSEPH BENGE , were indicted for stealing on the 20th of August , 5 1/2 lbs. of cop per, value 5 s . 6 d ., the goods of Richard Hughes , their master: and JOHN LINNEY for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing it to have been stolen, &c., against the Statute.

RICHARD HUGHES . I am a copper-plate maker, and live in Peterborough court, Fleet street. The prisoners, powers, Innes, and Benge, were in my employ—Benge quitted my service the day before he was taken up—I turned him away—Powers and Innes remained in my service till they were taken up, which was the next day, the 10th of September—a man named Christopher Minchin was also in my employ.

JOHN MINCHIN . I have been committed as an accomplice, and have come from prison now to give evidence—I was in the employ of Mr. Hughes—I have been concerned with three of the prisoners in taking copper, which was taken to the house of Linney—about the 20th of Au gust there was a large piece of plate, weighing 10lbs.—It was weighed is Linney's shop in the scales—It was carried out of the shop at dinner time, by powers—he took it up to the next court to the one which I used to work in; and he tied it up in an apron, and gave it to me; and I took it, and sold it to Linney for him—the prisoners were by when he was taking it out of the shop, and were by when he gave it to me—I took it to Lin ney's in Somers'-town—he keeps an ironmonger's-shop—I sold it to him for sixpence a pound—he knew me by selling him more before—I brought the money back, and gave it to Power—the other two were, and he divided it between us four—I first told of this after I was taken, which was about a fortnight ago.

JAMES CARTER . I am a policeman. From information I received, I watched at Linney's, and stopped his cart when it came out of his stables—h was in the cart—I got into it, and said, "I have suspicion that you have some copper and things you ought not to have"—I searched two bags, and found the copper now produced; here is a piece of copper-plate amongst it; there is a quantity of old copper besides—I asked Linney how he came by it; he said he bought it of a person named Dwelling, in Gray's-inn-lane, and he could give a very good account how he came by it—I said, "If you can give an account of it, I will take you to the station-house, "which I did—It was on the 21st of August that I seized the copper, and he was remanded to the 25th.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Was there not a considerable quantity of copper delivered over to Linney at the police-office as he ac counted for it? A. Yes; he was fined 5 l ., and this copper was detained to see if we could find any owner; I do not know whether the fine was for this piece of copper, but this copper was in his possession at the time: he was fined 5 l .; I believe it was for a piece of copper; there were copper plates which a person owned; there are two or three pieces still at Maryle bone-office, not owned; it is new copper—I did not see him pay the 5 l .; I was there when the Magistrate inflicted a fine of 5 l . on him, he was af terwards at liberty in about ten minutes or a quarter of an hour—I did not hear the Magistrate say any thing to him when he discharged him; I was in the office, but was taking the copper up—he might have paid the money and I not see it.

RICHARD HUGHES re-examined. I have no witness to the fact except

Minchin. I have looked at the whole of the copper produced—the plate produced is mine, I can swear to it by the workmanship; it is a peculiar manner we work our copper in: no other plate-maker does the same—this might cost me 1 s .1 1/2 d . or 1 s . 2 d . a pound; it is perfectly new; nobody in the trade could buy it as old—I went to the office on the 27th of Au gust, I think—I had a warrant first for Minchin; and when he was taken, he acknowledged the robbery, and then I took up the others.

JOHN MINCHIN re-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. You sold this as old copper, did you not? A. I sold it as copper—the word old was never men tioned—It was first mentioned to me about robbing Mr. Hughes at the latter end of May—I received whatever Powell returned me—I had my share—Linney's wife was in the shop when I sold it, but nobody else when that piece was sold—I know it by the size—It is bent.

JAMES LARGE . I am in the employ of Mr. Hughes. I know this piece of copper to be his property, by my own work on it—It has been prepared for engraving—It weighs eleven pounds eight ounces.

Cross-examined. Q. How is copper prepared for engraving? A. The first process is scraping it—every piece of copper is scrapped for en engraving—no person would buy this as old copper—old copper is 7 d . per pound—6 d . is the price given at marine store shops for old copper—In the state it is now in, it is worth 1 s . 2 d . a pound—all this copper is new—It all lcoks dirty alike.

COURT Q. In your opinion is 1 s . or 1 s . 1 d . the proper price of such copper as that? A. Yes.

RICHARD HUGHES re-examined. This is not such copper as is to be found in the market for sale—It is copper I have prepared for my own work,

Linney's Defence. I know nothing of the prisoner or the witness—I never saw them, to my knowledge, till I saw them at Guildhall—I was going out on the 22nd of August, with between eight and nine pounds of copper and brass in my cart—I was taken to Marylebone office, and re manded to Clerkenwell for three days—on the following Tuesday I brought witnesses to prove who I bought the other copper of, except this, and for this very copper I was fined 5 l .—the property was forfeited to the Crown, and I paid the 5 l —I was set at liberty in about a fortnight, and then taken to Guildhall; and the witness said any body who did not understand the trade, would buy it as old copper, and think no barm of it, and the price mentioned was a very fair price for it.

JOHN LINNEY I am the prisoner's father—I was at the office at High-street, Marylebone, when some copper was called in question—this is a piece of the copper that was there—he was questioned as to how he came by it, and was found 5 l . by Mr. Shutt and Mr. Rawlinson, the Magistrates, or to have or three months in the Houses of Correction—I cannot say which—he paid the fine.

NOT GUILTY

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

1980. MARY ANN CROOKS was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of September , 1 handkerchiefs, value 6 d ., the goods of John Granquest , from his person.

JOHN GRANQUEST . On the 6th of September, after one o'clock in the morning, I called in at Mr. Francis's to buy half an ounce of tobacco—I was smoking a pipe at the doorway—the prisoner came up to me and put her left arm over my shoulder, and said, "Young man, you had better go

home and sleep with me to-night"—I made her no answer—she asked me again—I took no notice of her—I was talking to a gentleman, and she went out—I heard a gentleman call a policeman, and say, "That is the woman that took the handkerchief"—I went over, and the policeman asked her to give up the handkerchief she had taken out of the man's pocket—she refused, and as he laid hold of her the handkerchief dropped from her clothes on the pavement—the policeman took it up—It was mine, and had been in my right-hand pocket—I did not know it had gone.

REUBEN WEBB . I am a policeman. I was the prosecutor smoking his pipe, and saw the prisoner come across the road, and lay hold of his shoulder, and say to him, "Come home with me, I will take care of you"—his hat fell off—he stooped to pick it up, and she put her hand into his pocket, took his handkerchief, and ran away with it—I ran and caught her, and she denied having it—I said, "I saw you take it, I am certain you have it"—she denied—I took and shook her gown, and it fell on the pavement—I took it up, and the prosecutor claimed it.

( Property produced and sworn to. )

Prisoner's Defence. I was coming along between twelve and one o'clock in the morning—I was this man standing at the door—I said, "Come along with me"—I was partly intoxicated—there was a man in the shop making a piece of work, and smoking—he stooped to pick his hat up, and I stooped and picked a handkerchief off the pavement—I did not take, it out of his pocket—he was at the top of the shop at the time it was lost—he was the length of this court from me, getting the other parties out of the shop.

GUILTY . Aged 27.— Transported for Ten Years .

Third Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

1981. VALENTINE SARGEANT was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of August , 20 pairs of leather straps, value 5 s ., the goods of William Bouchier , his master.

WILLIAM BOUCHIER . I live in Chandos-street, and am an army furrier. The prisoner has been my servant-boy for eighteen months—on Thursday, the 20th of August, I sent him on an errand—Mr. Melburn brought him back to my shop, and twenty pairs of leather straps were shown to me—a constable was sent for, and I delivered them to him—I cannot swear to them—I dealt in such articles, but they are difficult things to swear to—I could not miss them if he had stolen a hundred pairs at that time—I cannot tell that they ever were my property—I never knew he dealt on his own account—he was such an exceeding good boy, I gave him the whole run of the shop, I had such confidence in him—I would take him back again if he was at liberty directly.

NOT GUILTY .

1982. JOHN WICKS was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of Sep tember , 60 pence, the monies of Thomas Francis Staple , his master.

THOMAS FRANCIS STAPLE . The prisoner was my errand-boy for about two months—In consequence of suspicions I entertained, I watched a cup board in my house where I had some bundles of copper money in 5 s . papers, and also in parcels of 5 l .—the prisoner had no business there—on Monday, the 14th of September, I was watching, and sent my servants out of the way—I placed myself on the staircase, opposite the cupboard, and in ten minutes or a quarter of an hour the prisoner came out of the kitchen where he was employed, and said, "Sir, did you call?" making

that apparently a plea for coming there—he then looked into the room on both sides, returned back, put the room door open with a stool, then went into the cupboard, and I distinctly heard the paper being undone—I waited till he came out—I then jumped down the stairs, and collared him just inside my sitting-room—I called to my warehouseman, who came up stairs instantly—I did not myself see the copper in his possession—I afterwards saw a paper of copper in the possession of Frid, my warehouseman—my shopman, Puddy, had made up that parcel that day, and marked it—the closet was not locked—It is between my two sitting-rooms.

Cross-examined by MR. DUNBAR . Q. You have a warehouse? A. Yes—I am an oil and colourman—I take a great deal of copper, which I deposit in this closet in 5 l . parcels—I have twelve or thirteen servants—the prisoner was the lowest servant—he had the means of going to the closet if so disposed—It was never fastened—the servants knew the copper was deposited there—I first missed copper on Wednesday, the 9th—the 5 s . papers were tied up in 5 l . parcels—the mark on this paper is what I had directed to be on it—the prisoner had nothing in his hand when I collared him that I saw, my sight is bad—he dropped it on the mat, but I did not hear it fall, as he was crying at the time, and three or four people were coming up stairs—I had missed two 5 s . papers that morning—the prisoner had 5 s . a-week, and lived partly in the house—I had a good opinion of him.

WILLIAM FRID . I was called by my master about half-past two o'clock, and found he had the prisoner in custody—I observed him drop five shillings worth of copper from his side—I cannot say whether it was in his pocket or hand—he dropped it on the mat as Mr. Staples was taking him into the parlour—I have it here—our shopman made the mark on it—I took it off the mat—I am sure I saw him drop it.

Cross-examined. Q. Who called you? A. Mr. Staples called me, and I ran up directly—our shopman followed me up—he was a good bit behind me—when I was at the top of the stairs he was at the bottom—the pri soner dropped the money while my master was dragging him into the room—t e mat was by the room, not a yard from the door—I laid hold of him, and when he got into the room, I said, "Here is the five shillings; he has dropped it on the mat"—the shopman took it up, and gave it to master.

SAMUEL GOLDBY PUDDY . I am the prosecutor's servant. This parcel has my mark on it—It was tied up by me, and is in the state I had packed it.

Cross-examined. Q. What is the name of your master's partner? A. He has not had one for three or four months—It was Mr. Field.

MR. STAPLE . Our partnership ceased on the 1st of July, and was an nounced in the Gazette that day. (John Mayland, cook, Red House-yard, Borough; Hannah Miler, Russell-place, Blackfriars-road; and Elizabeth Nayler, Lamb-street, Bo rough, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Recommended to mercy on account of the exposed state of the money.— Confined Three Months .

1983. THOMAS ROBINSON was indicted for stealing, on the 9th of September , 1 handkerchief, value 3 s ., the goods of Richard Crossley , from his person.

HENRY GILL . I live in Churchill-street, St. Paneras. In the afternoon of the 9th of September, I saw the prisoner in Staples-inn, in company with another, following Mr. Crossley—I saw the other pick Mr. Crossley's

pocket of a handkerchief, and give it to the prisoner, who was walking by his side—he ran towards me—I called "Stop thief," and he was caught in Southampton-buildings, about five minutes' walk from the Inn—I saw him throw the handkerchief down in the road—I do not know who secured him, but he was secured—he ran through the Inn—I never lost sight of him—he was walking.

RICHARD CROSSLEY . I live ib Holborn-bridge. Gill spoke to me, and I found my handkerchief was gone—this is it—It was given to me by a man who was holding the prisoner—I had not seen him secured—I was walking a contrary way into Holborn.

FREDERICK PRINCE ( City-Policeman No. 79.) I took charge of the prisoner, and produce the handkerchief.

Prisoner's Defence. I saw the handkerchief on the ground and picked it up—the gentleman called "Stop thief" as I was walking along, and I chucked it down again—I had not seen any body take it from a pocket.

(Phœ be Millbert, Pleasant-place, King's cross, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY .* Aged 15.— Transported for Seven Years .

1984. TIMOTHY LEARY and JOHN HANLON were indicted for stealing, on the 9th of September , I table-cloth, value 3 s ., the goods of Eliza Goodhugh .

WILLIAM HODSON . I am foreman to Mrs. Eliza Goodhugh, a widow who keeps a cook-shop at No. 290, Oxford-street. On the 9th of Sep tember the prisoners came to dinner there, and after they were gone my son missed a table-cloth—I saw the prisoners coming out of Gee's-court, when the alarm was given—Hanlon had a bundle under his arm—I after, words went into Duke-street and saw Leary in custody of a policeman, and he had a table-cloth in a bundle similar to the one I had seen Hanlon with—on the way to the station-house Leary knocked the table-cloth out of the officer's hands, and told some of his party to make off with it—I sprang forward and picked it up myself—It was marked, and belonged to Mrs. Goodhugh.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Do you mean to say it was the same parcel you saw with Hanlon that Leary afterwards had? A. I have no hesitation in saying it was the same—It was like it—I could not exa mine it in his hand—Learey had no bundle—I cannot positively state it was the same.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. When you say you saw a bun dle in the possession of Hanlon, Learny hand nothing? A. No; he could not have had the table-cloth without my seeing it—not more than three minutes elapsed between my seeing Hanlon with the bundle, and seeing

ALFRED HODSON . I am waiter to Mrs. Goodhugh. The prisoners dined at the house together—they two fourpenny-worths of steak and giblet pie—Leary went out first—the other followed in about three minutes—t e table-cloth was missed from another room on the same floor—they came to the house together—this is the table-cloth—It belongs to Mrs. Goodhugh—the room joins the one they dined in.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. You did not see any body take it? A. No; I saw them come in together—they paid for their dinners.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. Did you see them in the room

the cloth was in? A. No; I saw Leary all the time he had his dinner, and saw him go away—he had nothing when he went away.

COURT Q. Did you see any thing with Hanlon when he went away? A. No—Gee's-court is opposite.

CHARLES HAWKER . ( police-constable D 106.) On the afternoon of the 9th of September I was on duty in Oxford-street. I went to the shop of Meale, a pawnbroker, in Duke-street—I found Leary in one of the boxes—t e shopman brought the table-cloth to him, and said he could not take it in—Leary took it up and put it under his arm—he turned round to come out—I asked what he had there he said, "A table-cloth"—I asked where he got it from—he said from home, and that it was all right—I said I was not satisfied, and he must go to the station-house—he said, "Very Well"—we came out—I went to lay hold of him—he begged I would not do, that because there was a party standing by who gave the table-cloth to him, and if he saw me holding him he would run away—I said I must do so, and did—he went very quietly to the corner of Stratford-place, he then made a desperate attempt to get from me, and struck me a violent blow between my eyes—the cloth fell, and he said to somebody, "Make off with that"—I told Hodson to take charge of it—I threw the prisoner on his back—he kicked me several times, and struck me violet blows, which disabled me from duty for three days—I secured him with assistance.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. When he came out did not he tell you, you would mot take the proper person if you held him in custody? A. He said if I took hold of him, the party who gave him the table-cloth would run away—I afterwards saw Hanlon in custody.

CHARLES HENRY SMITH . I am policeman. In consequence of infor mation, I apprehended Hanlon at the Spotted Dog, in-Oxford-street.

Leary's Defence. On the 8th of this month I was in Gee's-court—this man came up to me, and asked me to have a pint of ale—I had two pints of ale with him—he said about two hours after that he was going to have dinner,—I went in and had some, and was drinking ale with him—I felt sick and came out, leaving him, and came home—In about five minutes he came and said he had a table-cloth to sell—my mother would not buy it, and he called me out again—he went into a pawnbroker's door, then came out and asked me to go in with it—I went in—I never told any body to run away with it—at the station-house he asked what I was taken for—I told him—h said, "Did you say I gave it to you?"—I said "Certainly"—he said, "Well if you had not I would have let you off."

Hanlon's Defence . He was in the same box as me at the cook's shop—he retired into this room, came back and sat opposite to me with a bundle under his arm—he turned his back to me, opened the skirt of his coat, and put this into his hat and went out again—a few minutes after I was in Gee's-court—he came out of his mother's house and said, "Take and sell this"—I said "No, you take and sell it yourself"—he said, "My mother will not buy it of me"—he said, "Take it out"—I took it out, and it struck me it was what he had under his arm in the cook's shop, and I said, "Take this, I won't have it any Longer "—he said, "Come along, and I will take it of you;" and I gave it him at the corner.

ELIZABETH LEARY . I am the prisoner's mother, and live in Gee's-court. I remember Hanlon bringing me a table-cloth the same day the prisoner was taken—I was eating my dinner in the parlour—he called me out by name, and asked me if I would buy a table-cloth—my son was in the par lour, and was there some time before Hanlon came in—he was in the shop—he

held up the table—cloth, and I saw some small holes in it—It was such a one as this—I did not buy it—he put it under his jacket, and were out of my shop.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. About how long had your son been in the par lour before Hanlon came in? A. As near as I can guess, ten or twelve minutes—he did not dine at home that day—he did not speak to Hanlon when he came in, but when he was going out he called him, and said, "Come on, Leary, I will give you some gin"—my house is about four doors down the court, only across the road—Hanlon and my son did not come in to gether—my son has a house next door to me—I don't know where he was five years ago—he has been with me a long time.

ALFRED HODSON re-examined. I saw them coming out of Gee's-court together.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. How long they had been out of the prosecutor's house you cannot tell? A. No—at the time I saw them Hanlon had a bundle.

JURY . Q. Did not you say Leary went out first? A. Yes, about three minutes before the other—I was in the room all the while—Hanlon remained after Leary went—he could not get the cloth after Leary went—It must have been taken before Leary went—I do not think it was five minutes before he followed Leary out—Gee's-court is opposite, across Oxford-street—I missed the cloth after they both went out.

(John Saunders, publican, Little Grosvenor-street; Francis Cromer, Kensington; John Hearn, shoemaker, Monmouth-street, Soho, gave the prisoner Leary a good character.)

LEAREY— GUILTY . Aged 19.

HANLON— GUILTY . Aged 32.

Confined One Year .

1985. DANIEL CARTY was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of Sep tember , 1 pocket, value 4 d .; 1 towel, value 4 d .; and 4 half—crowns; the goods and monies of John Ringrose , from the person of Sarah Ringrose .

SARAH RINGROSE . I am the wife of John Ringrose, and live in Coc and Castle—lane, Kingsland. On the 5th of September, about half—past ten o'clock at night, I was in Bartholomew fair, with my husband—I felt my pocket—string cut, and my gown being pulled, I turned round and my pocket—string broke—the prisoner was down at my feet, and I saw him take my pocket from under my gown—It contained the articles stated in the indictment—before I could call out, the officer came and seized him.

Prisoner. She said at the office I was on my knees with it in my hand Witness. Yes, he had it in his hand—he took it from under my gown.

JOSEPH KING . I was an officer at the time in question, and live in Whitmore-road, Hoxton. I was in front of Richardson's show, about a quarter to ten o'clock, and saw the prisoner going up and down by the show—the prosecutrix and her husband passed, and just at the corner where the greatest crush was, the prisoner and another kept hipping and shoul dering them—all in a moment I missed the prisoner's head, and the woman called out, "That man has got my pocket"—I took him on his hands and knees, with the pocket in his hand—I raised him from the ground, and God frey took the pocket from his hand.

FRANCIS GODFREY . I had been watching the prisoner for three quar ters of an hour—he went down on the ground, and pulled the pocket from under the prosecutrix's clothes—I took it from him—there were six or

seven of them in company—It had four half-crowns, a farthing, and towel in it—I took eighteen shillings from his fob.

Prisoner's Defence. I saw it on the ground as I was going through the fair—directly I got it in my hand the man shoved me on my back, and then they say I was kneeling on the ground—both the officers pulled me up—I was lying flat on my back—It is not likely I should go down there to be trampled to death—I was not kneeling down at all.

GUILTY . Aged 25.— Transported for Fourteen Years .

1986. JANE WELCH was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of July , 2 pairs of ear-rings, value 1 s . 6 d ., the goods of William Beale , her master.

AMELIA BEALE . I am the wife of William Beale, and live in Lower Whitecross-street. The prisoner was six weeks in my service, and left me under the pretence of having a bad knee, which compelled her to go to the hospital, and she went there on Wednesday—I missed two ear-rings on the Friday morning—I have since seen them at the hospital—she took one pair all but the drops, and a pair of tops.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. She was a weekly servant? A. Yes; I did not find her board, washing, or lodging—she had 2 s . 6 d . a week—that was all she required of me, but when she wanted food she had that of me, though I did not engage to give it to her.

CHARLES TYRRELL . I am a beadle of the hospital. The prisoner was admitted there on the Thursday—her mistress came on the Friday—I hap pened to be coming out of the ward, when her master and mistress came up to the lobby—I went to the prisoner—she willingly produced her bundle, and a pair of ear-rings was found in it—I handed them over to Mrs. Beale—these are them.

Cross-examined. Q. Did she say any thing about her ear-rings? A. Her mistress said, "Mary, how came you to rob me?"—she was in a wretched state with v----disease.

COURT Q. How long did she remain in the hospital? A. She ran away on the Friday evening after Mrs. Beale got her property back—I had recommended her to stop.

EDWARD MC DOWALL ( policeman No. 78.) I received the ear rings from Mrs. Beale—I took the prisoner into custody at her mother's—she had gone home from the hospital—I took her about ten days after the Friday.

Cross-examined. Q. Were you applied to to take her? A. I was not, but another policeman was—Mr. Beale told me to take her if I found her—I could not see her before—I went to her mother's, but I could not find her—I learnt where she was when I was first instructed to take her, but she had run away from the hospital—Mrs. Beale had been there, but I had not—I had not been drinking with the prisoner before I took her into custody—I did not go to a public-house with her at all, I will take my oath—I took her at her mother's between two and three o'clock in the afternoon—s e was washing—I had no drink there—I knew her before, but never drank with her—I knew her mother and father ever since I have been in the police—I went to her house to find her before I took her—I cannot tell the day.

MRS. BEALE re-examined. These are my ear-rings—the prisoner worked for me for six weeks—I missed many other things—a silk dress, except the body, and found she had a bonnet made of it, and trimmed with trimming, which the must have taken out of my drawer.

Cross-examined Q. You have not included these in the indictment? A. No—the bonnet is not be found—I saw it at the hospital.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Recommended to mercy. — Confined One Month .

NEW COURT . Wednesday, September 23, 1835.

Second Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

1987. PATRICK GRAY was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of September , 6lbs. weight of ham, value 3 s ., the goods of Robert Ritchie and another.

ROBERT BOYD . I am a partner with Robert Ritchie, we are cheese mongers, and live in High-street, Shadwell. On the 19th of September, about ten o'clock in the evening, the shop was pretty full—I did not see the prisoner in the shop—I saw my lad taking the ham from the pri soner, and speaking to him—he was just out of the shop, in the street—this is the ham.

ANDREW ALLEN . I am shopman to the prosecutors. I saw the prisoner in the shop—he did not offer to buy any thing—he walked about the shop, and took the ham up and walked about the shop with it, and then walked out—I stopped him outside the door, and called to my master—I did not know him before.

Prisoner. Was it likely I should be walking up and down the shop if I meant to steal it? Witness. Yes. you did.

JOHN MURRAY ( police-constable K 178) I went and took the prisoner. He put his foot out, threw me down, and gave me several kicks on the face—I found on him 51/4 d .—the ham was worth 3 s .—I was very ill-used by him and others.

GUILTY . Aged 35.— Confined Six Weeks .

1988. WILLIAM HUNTINGFORD and THOMAS HUNTING FORD were indicted for stealing, on the 20th of September , 2 geese, value 17 s ., the property of John Samuel Martin Fonblanque .

JAMES ROGERS . I am a farmer. Mr. John Samuel Martin Fonblanque lives at Twickenham—my shop is within half a mile of him—last Sunday, between twelve and one o'clock in the day, I was in my meadow—the two prisoners came along with a bag on their shoulder—they broke the fence down—I desired them to go back—they went back—they went, perhaps, fifty yards to the other side of the hedge, and laid their bag up in the ditch—a man was with me—he said, "I think there is something wrong"—we went and got over the hedge—just as we got over, the prisoner William came with a parcel of stuff in his hand, and dropped it one the bag to cover it over—I returned, and said I would get a policeman and examine the bag—I sent for a policeman—he did not come—I went and took the bag, and two geese were in it—when the policeman came I ordered him to go and take the two prisoners, who were on the other side of the field—this is the bag—the geese were dead, and their necks broken—I had seen Rogers in the field on the Saturday with another man.

BENJAMIN HOLTON . I live at Twickenham. I was passing along on Sunday morning, and passed the two prisoners without any thing—I came to the last witness, and was in conversation with him—the prisoners came with the bag—he ordered them back—they went back, and deposited the bag in the ditch, not more than fifty yards from where we stood—Mr.

Rogers said he would go and see what was in it, and he said that one of them was hiding it with something—he sent for the policeman—before he came he took the bag, and the two geese were in it with their necks broken—this is the bag.

SAMUEL HOLLAND . I can identify these geese as the property of my master, Mr. John Samuel Martin Fonblanque. I had them under my care six months—they were all safe at seven o'clock on Saturday night—the next morning, at half-past five o'clock, these two were missing—I had ordered William Huntingford out of my master's field on Saturday morn ing, where there were some mushrooms—that was where the geese were—o e has a white ring round its neck.

THOMAS JACKSON . I am a police-constable. I was called to take the two prisoners on suspicion—this is the bag which Mr. Rogers found and these are the geese.

William Huntingford's Defence . We were going into the field mushrooming, and found the geese, and the bag I had carrying with me I threw over the geese—that is all that I know of it.

COURT to S. HOLLAND . Q. How many geese had your master on the Saturday evening? A. Five—they were all alive—I had had the cars of them eight months, and swear they are my master's.

WILLIAM HUNTINGFORD— GUILTY . Aged 23.

THOMAS HUNTINGFORD— GUILTY . Aged 23.

Confined Six Months .

1989. JOHN JENNINGS was indicted for stealing, on the 23rd of August , 9 half-crowns, 30 shillings, and 15 sixpences, the monies of Horatio Nathaniel Phillips his master; and that the had been before con victed of felony.

HORATIO NATHANIEL PHILLIPS . I keep the Swan public-house, Hun gerford Market. On Sunday, the 23rd of August, the prisoner was assistant to my waiter—between three and four o'clock that afternoon, I examined the till, and found my wife had placed 5 l . of silver in it—It was made up in parcels of 1 l . each—I cleared the till the moment before I went to dinner, making up 6 l . in parcels of 1 l . each—while I was at din ner, the prisoner was waiting upon my family—I had two per sons in the parlour, in a distant part of the house—they did not go into the bar—I knew the prisoner was in the bar, and asked my daughter why he was there—I did not speak to the prisoner—about a quarter before four o'clock, I went into the bar by one door, and missed 3 l . out of the 6 l .—I suspected the prisoner, and spoke to the waiter who had engaged him—I afterwards charged him with the theft—he said he had not taken it—I requested to see what he had got about him—he pulled from his waistcoat 3 l . 5 s . in silver—I am sure no one had entered the bar, from the time I left it, and before the doors were opened, which we do not open till half-past four o'clock—I gave the silver to the officer.

Prisoner. Q. On the Sunday afternoon, were there not two men sitting in your parlour, right opposite the bar, where the silver was taken from? A. No; they were in a room, a great distance from the bar.

Prisoner. The parlour was not above two yards from the till—one of them drank gin-and-water; the other, a pint of ale.

GEORGE WEBB . I am an officer. I took the prisoner and asked where he got the money from, or how he came to carry it about him, as he was waiter—he said he received it from his uncle at the Dublin Castle—I got

this money from the witness; and at the station-house, I found nine half-crowns and a sixpence more upon the prisoner.

CHRISTOPHER DOWNER . I am waiter there. The prisoner was under me—I left him in charge of the place at dinner-time—I came up from the cellar, and cleared the cloth—I then heard of this.

JOHN HILL . I am an officer of Cripplegate. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, in the name of John Jennings—I was present at the trial—the prisoner is the man.

Prisoner's Defence. I was in my master's employ ten weeks—I had 2 l . sent me from my last employer, and the other money I received in his service—these other two men were not two yards from where the money was taken—our counter is not more than a yard wide—I have not taken his money—the two men could prove that they did not see me in the bar—t ey were there from half-past two till four o'clock.

JURY to MR. PHILLIPS . Q. What was the money in? A. It was rolled in small bits of old newspapers—I endeavoured to find them, but could not—when I found the prisoner, he was beside the kitchen fire—the prisoner said he received it from his uncle, Mr. Mountjoy, of the Dublin Castle; but afterwards, he said he had saved it in my service.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Fourteen Years .

1990. WILLIAM LEE was indicted for embezzlement.

JAMES GROVE . I am drayman to Mr. Bentley M'Leod. The prisoner was in my service; he was a trouser—I hired him by the day to go with me—he was to receive money on my account—I was ill, and did not know how long I might have occasion for him, but I gave him 3 s . a day—we have a customer of the name of John William Church.

JOHN WILLIAM CHURCH . On the 31st of August, I paid the prisoner 1 l . 14 s . on account of Mr. Bentley M'Leod; he gave me this receipt—( read ) "31st of August, received 1 l . 14 s ., W. Lee, for one barrel of ale," COURT to JAMES GROVE . Q. Supposing him to receive money on the 31st of August, when ought he to have given it to you? A. On the same day—when he came home that evening, I asked if Mr. Church had paid him; he said no, he sent his compliments, and he would call in a day or two—there was then another barrel of ale ordered by another drayman, and I found this out on the 7th of September.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Nine Months .

1991. RHODA HAZLEWOOD was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of September , 3 silver forks, value 2 l ., the goods of thomas Day , her master.

The prosecutor did not appear.

NOT GUILTY .

1992. CAROLINE REAMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 28th of August , 1 ring, value 20 s ., the goods of George William Newton , her master.

GEORGE WILLIAM NEWTON . I live in Cheapside, and am an auctioneer. The prisoner lived with me as cook, about eighteen months—she had left my service two or three days, but had not taken away her trunk—I in sisted upon searching it—It was seorched in my presence—there was a diamond ring found in it, and a duplicate of another ring—the diamond ring was Mrs. Newton's the other ring was my daughter's—Harrison has the ring—he took it out; it was mine.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. What mark had you on it? A. No mark at all; the girl took the duplicate out, and Harrison took the ring—she said', she had no key, and we might break the box open, which we did.

COURT . Q. Did you know it to be yours? A. I bought it myself, and gave it to Mrs. Newton; it is a single stone diamond gold ring—I suppose there is not such another.

Prisoner. I found the ring in Mr. Newton's dressing-room.

MR. NEWTON . It was missing from the jewellery-case about four months ago.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Who kept the jewellery-case? A. Mrs. Newton; she is not here—I cannot tell whether she lost it—I had not received a letter from the prisoner—I have a nephew, he was not living in the house—I have seen a letter from her to my nephew, giving some account of this ring—It was not in consequence of that I went to look at her box—my nephew's master brought the letter in as she was going out of the door in custody—my nephew is not here; that is in mercy to the prisoner.

ROBERT HARRISON . I am the officer. I broke the box open, as the prisoner said she had not got the key—this ring and two duplicates were found in the box—Mr. Newton took it out of her hand, and gave it to me.

MR. DOANE to MR. NEWTON . Q. Were you not out of town just before this time? A. I am out of town every day—I merely sleep out of town—I had not been out of town more than a day about this time—my servant was on board wages—I did not board myself in the house—I had dis charged har one night in anger, on coming home late, and finding an old fellow-servant there—I had seen a letter sent by the prisoner to my nephew, telling him there was something improper in that box; wishing him to get it, and bring it to her, and sending him the key of the box.

(Mrs. Harman, Mr. Wingrove, Sarah Hutchison, and Elias Shaw, a warehouseman, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 26.— Confined One Year .

There was another indictment against the prisoner.

OLD COURT . Thursday, September 24, 1835.

Third Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

1993. ELIZABETH WEBB was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of August , 1 table-cloth, value 2 s .; 3 towels, value 2 s .; 2 bed-curtains, value 4 s .; and 1 handkerchief, value 1 s .; the goods of Joshua Frederick Clements , her master.

JOSHUA FREDERICK CLEMENTS . I am a victualler, and live in Dean-street, Soho. The prisoner was about three months in my service—she left me, and I missed these articles from my bed-room, which nobody but her had access to.

JOHN ALLEN . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Clare-street. I produce a tablecloth, pawned, I believe, by the prisoner, but I am not positive, on the 2nd of September, in the name of Ann Welch—the duplicate I gave was found on her.

ISAAC TURVEY . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner into custody—the towels and curtains have not been found—she took the duplicate of the table-cloth from her pocket-book, as I took her to the station-house, and tried to make away with it.

( Property produced and sword to. )

Prisoner's Defence. He had several lodgers who might take the things—I was not aware the table-cloth was in my bundle.

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Seven Years .

1994. WILLIAM BROWN was indicted for stealing, on the 4th of September , 1 veil, value 5 s ., the goods of Jane Elizabeth Somes , from the person of John Burley .

JANE ELIZABETH SOMES . On the 4th September, at half-past seven o'clock in the evening, I was walking in Bartholomew fair, with Burley, the police-officer—I had a veil on—somebody gave a tug at it, and to secure it, I pulled it off my bonnet, and gave it to Burley to take care of—he put it into his pocket, and in about five minutes I saw it in the hands of another person, who was putting it into his bosom—I do not know who he was—I told him the veil belonged to me, and he gave it me, and ran away—this is the veil.

JOHN BURLEY . I am a policeman. I was walking with the prosecutor—s e gave me her veil to take care of—I put it into my left-hand pocket—I did not feel it taken from my pocket; but something was going on on the stage at Richardson's show, which took my attention off altogether—I received information that my pocket was picked—I was in plain clothes—I immediately called an officer, and he ran and took the prisoner into cus tody—he had not got the veil then.

GEORGE ANTHONY . I am an accountant. I was at Bartholomew fair—I saw the prisoner and two other men about half-past seven o'clock, opposite Richardson's show—I saw each of them fell Burley's pocket—the prisoner put his hand into Burley's pocket, pulled out something, and gave it to one of his companions—I tapped Burley on the shoulder, and said, "You are robbed"—I turned round directly and secured the prisoner, and Williams took him to the Compter—nothing was found on him—the prosecutrix pro duced the veil—I had seen him take it.

WILLIAM SUTTON . About half-past seven o'clock in the evening I was at the fair—I saw the prisoner make a tug at the veil—I afterwards watched him, and saw him take it from Burley's pocket—I could see it was some thing dark.

Prisoner's Defence. I was passing through Smithfield about nine o'clock—o posite Richardson's show the gentleman came and took me—he said, "Come alone"—he brought the veil in his hand, and took me to the Compter—I was not near the person at all.

GUILTY *. Aged 19.— Transported for Seven years .

1995. WILLIAM JONES was indicted for embezzlement.

SARAH STOCKS . I am the wife of John Stocks, a carman. The pri soner was in his employ—It was his duty to receive money—he bought to give us what he received, as soon as he returned—I had sent him to Bow, and gave him a bill and receipt.

JAMES CROW . I paid the prisoner 1 l . 16 s . on account of Mr. Stock, on Friday, the 4th of September—he gave me a bill and receipt.

SARAH STOCKS re-examined. He was about five months in our service—he told me he had not received this money, and never paid it to me—I asked him for it at night—he absconded, and was taken at Bartholomew fair.

JOHN STOCKS . The prisoner never paid me this money.

Prisoner. I came home on Saturday evening, and told master I had received the money, and was willing to make it up to him.

MR. STOCKS . He was brought to me by a person on Saturday evening, and said he had spent the money.

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Confined Three Months .

Before Mr. Justice Williams.

1996. WILLIAM WHISKARD was indicted for that he, on the 26th of August , in and upon Jane Burn , unlawfully, maliciously, and feloniously did make an assault; and a certain pistol loaded with gunpowder and two leaden bullets, unlawfully, maliciously, and feloniously did attempt to dis charge at her, by drawing the trigger of the said pistol, with intent, feloni ously, wilfully, and of his malice aforethought, to kill and murder her, against the Statute.—2nd COUNT , stating it to be with intent to maim and disable.—3rd COUNT , stating it to be with intent to do her some grievous bodily harm.

JANE BURN . I am the wife of William Burn. I have known the pri soner between sixteen and seventeen years, and his wife also—she had been living at my house for five or six weeks before this happened, which was the 26th of August—she had been living with her husband before that time—he was not at home at the time I first took her into my place—a dis tress had been put in their primuses by the landlord, and I then took her in—the prisoner was in prison at that time—before the 26th he had come to my house a number of times—to speak to his wife, and when he came in he used often to ill-treat me, and ill-use me, and knocked me down several times because he wished me to go out of the house—I did not object to his coming to the house while he was quiet, and did not ill-use any one, but he ill-used his wife several times in the house, and I forbid him coming to the house a number of times before the 26th of August—he used to come and order me out of the place, and huff his wife, and ill-treat her, and he broke a number of articles of furniture, taking up the chairs and smashing them down, and smashing the tea-things off the table, and wine-glasses, and different things, knocking them about the place—I believe he was neither drunk nor sober—on the 26th of August he came first of all at one o'clock in the morning—we were all in bed—I was sleeping then with his daughter, and his wife was in bed in the same room, and his son William was in bed in a room—his wife had four children, but there were only three at home—he came and knocked violently at the door—I looked out of the window, and said, "Who is there?"—he said, "Me, let me in"—I said, "I cannot, why not go to your own lodg ing, why come to us at this time?"—he spoke in an outrageous manner, and said, "Why do not you let me in? if you do not I will tear you and smash you to pieces"—I called to the policemen to come to my assist ance—they said he had a right to come where his wife was, and they would not take him—I said I was in danger of my life, but they said they would not take him—I was so alarmed, I laid on my bed, and trembled a good deal—after that his wife looked out of the window, and said the policemen had taken him away; but before that he had broken open the window shut ters by wrenching them open in a violent

manner—they were fastened by three bolts,—he went away at that time, and returned about half-past four o'clock in the morning—the window has sash which slides down—there were two holes bored with a gimblet to fasten it—he smashed the window, pulled down the frame, and got in and ranged about the place in a violent manner, knocking the things about, and smashing the doors about; and then he entered the room where I and his daughters were sleeping, and his wife also—he came and knocked against the bedstead in a violent manner, and doubled his fist in my face, and uttered some bad word, I could not understand what it was—I took no notice of him, and he went out of the house entirely—by this time I think it must have been about half-past six o'clock—he came again at about a quarter or twenty minutes after eight o'clock—we were sitting at breakfast—he took the tea-pot off the table, and smashed it under the ashes, making use of violent words—he said he would smash the things all to pieces, and was swearing, and so on—w took no notice of him to give him an answer—we put some tea into the tea-pot again—It was not broken, it was a pewter pot—he broke a wine-glass at that time—he snatched it off the table, and went up stairs with it, and then his daughter went and got it away from him—he went out up the street, and afterwards came down into the kitchen, and sat down very pacified for more than an hour, I should think—he asked me if I would allow him a room in the house—I said no, I could not—he did not seem much intoxicated—I believe he had been having a little—I said I could not let him have a room, as he was violent and desperate to his wife, his temper was so violent I could not ecounter it—he had often before applied for permission to live in the house, I always refused him for the same reason—he went away—I told him to get a room, I would give him a bedstead, any thing he wanted, but not to come and annoy us—he went away without using any more violence—It was then near eleven o'clock—a young man came in-doors to caution us—he did not hear that—we wished the young man to go down to the kitchen to him, and I saw him go in the kitchen to him—they had a few words—he came up through the pa sage and said, "Where is Mrs. Fitz" which was the name his wife went by—I said I did not know—he said, "Well, I am going to receive 4 l ., I su pose you will let me see her when I return? "—I said, "I suppose so"—he went out, and returned in about an hour and a half, with two pistols—be fore he went out there was a great coat of his, which he now has on, in the front parlour—he said to his little boy, "You go and take my great coat to William Appleby's;" and when he returned again, he had got his great-coat on—at eleven o'clock he had a green jacket on—when he re turned at one o'clock, he was alone—his wife was down in the kitchen with me, and as he came down the kitchen stairs, he said to his daughter Jane, "Jane, will you shake hands with me?"—she said, "No, father, your cruelty is so great to my mother, I cannot be friends with you—I will decline it"—he then called to his son James, and asked him to shake hands—he pulled some silver from his pocket, and said, "Money is no object to me, here is a shilling for you, call your brother William, "who refused coming—he said, "Go and carry him a shilling"—he gave a shil ling to the baby I had in my arms—one of his sons wanted to take it and spend it—I said, "Never mind"—the prisoner said, "Let the baby go into the street"—he turned round to my elder son, and said, "Thomas, go and get a shilling's worth of gin"—the wife said, "Do not go, we do not want gin; if he wants spirits, let his own child get him half-a-quar tern"—she said, "Think you had better give me two shillings to buy the child a frock"—he said, "Yes, you shall have it"—he put his hand into his pocket, and pulled out something—I could not see what it was, but his wife screamed out that he had pulled out a pistol—I turned round to ✗what it was, and saw him put hand into his pocket again, and pull out

a pistol and present it at my face, and pull the trigger—I had not seen the first pistol pulled out, but I heard his wife cry out most dreadfully—the pistol was not a yard from me—the muzzle was pointed as near to my head as it possibly could be—when he pulled the trigger, I saw the flash from the pistol—I heard a little noise, a snap which the pistol made—It was a small pistol—the flash came from by the lock—he said nothing, but made a great noise in puffing his mouth in an outrageous manner, when he found he had my got my life—I flew under the area—he endeavoured to come after me, but my son pinned his arms, and as he went to make an attempt again, he got hold of him, and his hand went through a pane of glass—my son pinned him down to the side, and took the pistols from him—one from his hand, and the other from his coat pocket—they were de livered to his wife, who delivered them to the policeman—one was the pistol which had flashed—the policeman took the prisoner to the station-house directly, as people gave an alarm—when I got to the station-house he arose in a very confused manner, and said, "Woman, what, are you here? (his wife was with me) Are you going to hang me, or what are you going to do with me?"—we went into the room at the station-house, and did not answer him, but gave our account to the inspector, and went before the Justice the same evening, but it was postponed till next day—he has remained in custody ever since.

Q. Had you ever any dispute with him before his wife was taken into your house about the distress? A. Only once, and that was when he had been kicking her in a violent manner—that was a fortnight before, I think, and I spoke a little sharply to him about it, saying it was a bad thing he should use his wife in that way, and have her locked up—he had given false evidence against her at the office—I said I could procure her bail, and hoped if he was locked up, he would not have bail.

JANE FITCH . My name is Whiskard . I was married to the prisoner at St. Mary-Axe, in Leadenhall-street, on the 10th of July, 1813.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Do you know Peter Austin? A. Yes—he is dead to my knowledge—I cannot swear it—I saw him last eighteen years come February—he never lived with me but three weeks in his life—I was lawfully married to him—I saw him last in Well-street, Poplar—It was proved he was a married man—I never spoke to him when I saw him in Well-street—he went to America—he is a native of America—I have never heard from him since—I did not quarrel with him on finding he was married—the prisoner knew it all, and went to the lawyer about it—I was married to the prisoner three years after I married Austin—I saw Austin last in February, 1818—I saw him pass the house since I have been married to the prisoner, but never spoke to him.

COURT . Q. You said something about his having been married before? A. Yes—his cousin came over from America, and I have a letter to produce that he was married before—I was but sixteen years old when I was married to him—It can be proved that he was married—I know nothing about it but what I have been told—I have four children living by him—I have had eight—I went to live with Mrs. Burn on the 18th of July—the prisoner was in Clerkenwell at that time—It was not in consequence of any com plaint of mine—a distress was put in for rent, and Mrs. Burn purchased part of the furniture, and allowed me to live in her house—the prisoner was hailed out of Clerkenwell on the 22nd of July—I have been in Court while Mrs. Burn gave her evidence—I did not distinctly hear the account

she gave—on the 26th of August I saw the prisoner with a pistol in his hand—he took it from his right-hand pocket, and presented it close to my face—It was nearly one o'clock—I ran away, and saw nothing done to the prosecutrix.

Cross-examined. Q. How long had you lived with the prisoner? A. Twenty-two years—he has been a sailor formerly—he has the marks of many wounds about him—I know he has one wound, from a bullet, on his arm, and I know he inflicted a wound himself in his head, with a quart pot, twenty-four years ago—he was generally a violent man, even when he did not have liquor—I was before the Magistrate, and gave my evidence—the prisoner has frequently complained to me that he was haunted by ghosts—between five and six years ago he told me he saw the devil at his bed-side—h has told me frequently that old Tom Paine, the writer, and the devil, have appeared to him when he was in bed, and told him he must commit murder—he always said it must be me he must murder—that I should die before him—I said, "I think he really is deranged in his mind," and waved it off as much as I could—he spoke as if he was out of his senses.

COURT . Q. Did you see him injure himself with the quart pot? A. Yes; I objected to being married to him, and he declared if I did not con sent to marry him he would put an end to his existence—I went outside the door and saw the pot in his hand, and he inflicted two or three deep wounds in his head—that was two years before I was married to him—I was living with my mother at that time—I had not heard any of his expres sions about ghosts or the devil, near the time in question—he was absent from me a fortnight before he committed the deed—I heard him speak of them about four months ago—he once attempted to drown himself—he got out of bed in the middle of the day—put a 4lbs. and a 7lbs. weight into him pocket—called a boat at Limehouse-hole, and in the middle of the river got out of the boat—I saw him take the weights and go out—he was quite sober then—he had been in bed two hours—that was five years ago—he was brought home by two watermen, and his clothes were completely wet through—he said nothing when he came back—he appeared very terrified, and went to bed again—a little before that it appears he went out very sober, and came home in about three hours with every bit of hair shaved off his head—I think that was seven years ago this month—he had his hat on, but no wig or any thing—I asked him what that was for—he said it was his fancy, that he was tired of the world, and that he went into a hair-dresser's shop, took up a razor, and insisted that the man should take all his hair off his head, or he would put him to death—he came in, took off his hat, and said, "Look at that"—he did not state any cause for it, but said it was only his fancy, and made use of very bad language—he said about four months ago that Tom Paine had told him to murder me—I was in the kitchen the last time he said that—he has said it repeatedly.

Q. Had you had any quarrel at that time? A. We were very seldom without, for he was the most violent man possible—he behaved most brutal to me—he was two months in the House of Correction for ill-using me about two years and a half ago, on my complaint—I am not aware that the over seers have tried to get him into a mad-house—he once brawled in Lime-house church, and was taken up, and I was examine whether I saw him in a deranged state, except from liquor, and I said, "No"—but the overseers never interfered—I was not at church when that happened—I was fetched to Lambeth-street, by the headborough, that is seven years ago—I have known him speak about ghosts, the devil, and Tom Paine, both when

sober and drunk—he has always been in such a disturbed state for the last seven years, that I hardly knew whether he was drunk or sober.

MARY TERRY . The prisoner lodged at my house at the time this hap pened, for a fortnight—I have repeatedly heard him say he would take Mrs. Burn's life, and his own directly after—he said he was angry with Mrs. Burn for giving his wife and family a residence—I saw him about ten minutes before twelve o'clock the night before he committed the deed—I was retiring to bed—he went up stairs with us, and when we got to the top of the landing, he said, "Mrs. Terry, if you will give me a sovereign, I will tell you a secret"—I said, "I have not a sovereign, what is the secret?"—he said, "I have but a short time to live, I mean to kill Mrs. Burn and myself together"—we went to bed—he laid about fifteen or twenty minutes, and then he said he was troubled in his mind, he could not rest, and he would leave the house—he got up and went out—h was neither drunk nor sober—he appeared a little the worse for liquor, but not to say drunk—I never saw him again till he was at Lam beth-street, but he returned to my house next morning, at a little after six o'clock—I was in bed, but I heard him, and about seven o'clock, as he was leaving the house, he said, "Good bye, God bless you, Mrs. Terry; I am going to Gravesend, and if I do not see you again, go to Mrs. Appleby's, and you will get my trunk and papers"—he left me five shillings which he owed me, and said, "Good bye, God bless you"—he left me the five shillings on the top of the stairs—he said he would leave it there for what he bad had—I was satisfied with it—I did not make any charge—he left it according to his own discretion.

THOMAS BURN . I am the prosecutrix's son. I have heard my mother's evidence of what took place about one o'clock on the 26th of August—It is true—I saw the prisoner point the pistol towards his wife—she screamed, and ran up stairs—he instantly turned round, and pointed it towards my mother—I caught him by the arms—he snapped the pistol—there was a kind of explosion from the cap—a flash—I do not think there was any thing but a flash from the cap—the mouth of the pistol, at that time, was pointed towards my mother's face and about a yard from it—I took the pistol from him, and a young man took another from his right-hand coat pocket—t e policeman took away both the pistols—I saw the policeman get the one I took from his hand—before I gave it to the policeman, I observed that the cock was down, right over the cap, and the cap was split up the side—the other pistol had a cap on it whole.

WILLIAM SHADE . I received two pistols from the prisoner's wife, in the presence of Thomas Burn—I did not see them taken from the prisoner—I have them now—I saw them examined about five minutes after I received them—they had not been out of my sight before they were examined—I examined them both—they were both loaded with powder and shot, which I produce—they are large swan shot—there was quite sufficient powder—the pistols go with caps—one cap was split—the hammer was on it—I am sure that pistol had some of this shot in it—they were both loaded, and both had caps on—I believe the cap did not suffi ciently go down for the pistol to go off.

WILLIAM MERITT . I know the prisoner. He employed me to do some work for him—I never bought any pistols for him—shortly before this happened I went to his house for a little money he owed me, and he said if I went out with him he would pay me—I went out with him—he went to Mr. Walker's, a pawnbroker in the Commercial-road, and bought these

pistols—that was between twelve and one o'clock on the wednesday morning that this affair happened—he gave 15 s . for them—after he had bought them, just as he was going to leave me, he told me he wanted them to blow Mrs. Burn's brains out and then his own—I laughed at him, and said he was a foolish man for so acting—I thought he was only in fun—he took no notice of what I said—he sent me to buy the powder before he told me anything about it—after he bought the pistols, he told me to go and buy powder and shot, which I did—It was the shot now produced—I asked for shot—he told me to get them to fit the barrel—I bought a pe nyworth worth of powder and a pennyworth of shot—he did not go with me—I brought it to him—he then took me into a public-house and asked what I would have to drink—I had a glass of gin, and afterwards he came out and said, "Now I will pay you"—he took me into a beer-shop and paid me 5 s . for work I had done for him, and I bid him good morning—he said nothing when I brought him the powder and shot—he said, "Get a pen nyworth of powder and a pennyworth of shot"—he seemed very much con fused and agitated in mind, neither sober nor drunk—I had known him for about six months—there was nothing particular in his manner this morning more than at other times.

WILLIAM BARRYMORE . I am shopman to Messrs. Walkers, pawn-brokers. On Tuesday, the 25th of August, the prisoner came to our shop alone, and said he wanted to purchase a pair of pistols for the captain of a ship—I showed him this pair, and asked him a guinea for them—he said I must take little less, as he wanted something for himself—I said, if he brought the captain down with him I would see what I could do with him—I would sell them him at the lowest price—he said he would bring the captain down in the evening—he went away—I saw nothing of him till next day, when he came with the witness—he said the captain could not come himself, as he was lying off Woolwich, and he would buy the pistols and take them to him—he bought them for 15 s .—I merely told him I could take 15 s . for them, and he gave that—he asked me for two or three percussion caps to try them—he put one on and presented it at a woman, and said, "You are a dead woman"—the cap exploded—he merely did it out of a joke—he laughed at the time, and snapped it at her—he tried the locks of both, but only one with the cap—nothing more passed—they both went away together.

Prisoner's Defence. I never saw the powder or shot, or any thing of the kind—I was right out of my mind, completely—that man loaded the pistol for me, for I never saw powder or shot—I had neither of them in my hands—I happened to turn out of a beer-shop, and saw him cramming it with a small pipe he had in his pocket—as to the goods in the house, they are all my own—this woman came to Clerkenwell, and said she would bail me out—there was nothing said about the fixtures—they persuaded me to let them take a house, and remove my family and goods there, and per suaded me to have her husband's name painted on the cart.

NOT GUILTY , being of unsound mind at the time of the act.

Fourth Jury, before Mr. Baron Gurnsy.

1997. ELIZABETH ISETT was indicted for that she, on the 7th of September , at St. Luke's , in and upon Maria Jenkinson , unlawfully, maliciously, and feloniously, did make an assault, and then and there unlawfully, maliciously, and feloniously did cut and wound her upon the right cheek and the back, with intent, feloniously, wilfully, and of her malice aforethought, to kill and murder her—2nd COUNT . stating it to be with intent to disable her—3rd COUNT with intent to do her some bodily harm.

MARIA JENKINSON . I am eleven years old. I live in Parrot-court, Playhouse-yard, with my father and mother—the prisoner has lived next door for sometime—on the 7th of September I was at play in the court—other children were playing there—I was playing with my pinafore, whishing it about—the prisoner was in the court—It happened to touch her; and she took a knief out of a little child's hand, and struck me on the face first with it, and then on the shoulder—she then ran in-doors; and from her own door, she ran into Mrs. Pearce's—I screamed out—my mother came and took me off to the doctor's—I had been whisking the pina fore about for some time—she had not spoken to me about it before this—she told me get a bit of cane away from a little boy; and I said, "I have no business to do that"—I was running about and whisking my pinafore about—at the time she strike me, she caught hold of me by my sleeve with her left hand—I had no quarrel with the prisoner's children before this—they were always heaving stones at me; and I had spoken to her about it, but she would not correct them—she said she would give me a mark—that was the week before she did it.

Cross-examined by MR. MAHON Q. was the boy, whose hand the prisoner took the knife from, her own son? A. Yes—she said, "Give me that knife, or you will hurt yourself"—I cannot say whether it was a bread-knife,—I saw a little bit of a white handle—I did not say to her, "I sha'n't, Mamma," when she asked me to get the cane from the boy; nor that it was not my business—I never called her "Mamma"—her children are rather genteel, and call her "Mamma"—my brother and sister have not ridiculed them for calling her "Mamma"—I did not laugh at all—the prisoner was standing outside Mrs. Pearce's window, where she lodged—s e was outside—I came dowm the court—I did not get down to her—I did not go quite close to her—I do not know where the pinafore touched her—I cannot say I did not strike her in the face with it—I was not going round her—I did not do it a second time—she said to me, "what did you do that for?"—she did not say I must not do it—I said, "I did not mean to go to do it"—she did not follow me up the court to catch me—she ran after me when she struck me with the knife—I was running by when I whisked the pinafore in her face—I went round the court but not round her—when she ran after me she had the knife—the handle was in her hand, and the blade up—she held it the contrary way to what you generally hold a knife—It was not with her hand she struck me to slap my face—she hit me with the knife—I had no quarrel with her children that day; only they were always heaving stones at me, and she would not say any thing to them for it—I did not heave at them, nor did my brother or sister.

COURT Q. She struck you first in the face, and then on the shoulder? A. Yes—she gave me two blows with the knife—I was under the doctor's hands for a fortnight.

MARY ANN JENKINSON . I am the mother of the last witness. I did not see the blow given—she was at play in the court—I do not know whether there were other children there—I was up-stairs at work about twenty minutes or half-past six o'clock in the afternoon—I heard her cry dreadfully—I ran down stairs, and saw her in a terrible state, blood run ing down her face—I asked her who did it, and took her to the doctor's—I found her check quite laying open, and another cut on her shoulder.

Cross-examined by MR. DUNBAR . Q. Was there a good deal of day-light

light remaning? A. Yes. I did not find the prisoners, children there—I was in too great a fright to notice—I took the child before the Magis trate—she was very much terrified from the injury she received, and in a state of agitation, and myself also—I have heard her evidence to-day—I came up directly I heard the cry—I did not see a piece of blue cloth, or an apron—I did not see the knife—my child had run into her own room.

ELIZABETH JENKINSON . I am the sister of Maria Jenkinson. I shall be twenty years old in January—I was sitting at the window and saw the prisoner take a piece of old hat out of her own child's hand, and throw it at my sister—I them saw her pull my sister towards her, and pull her by the sleeve of her frock—my sister then screamed violently, and then the pri soner turned away from her, and I caught a glimpse of a knife in her right hand—I saw my sister bleeding very much—she ran up toward my mother's room, screaming—the prisoner went into her own house, and then walked from there into Mrs. Pearce's, and then the policeman came up—I had seen my sister waving a bit of blue pinafore once—I did not see her dancing about the court, or running about, she was standing against a wall when she waved it—I did not see her wave it in any body face.

Cross-examined by MR. DUNBAR . Q. What persons were in the place when she waved the pinafore? A. I did not notice—she was nearest to the pri soner—when the prisoner went into her own door, and came out to Mrs. Pearce, she said, "My God! my God!I think I have cut the child"—I saw her go towards my sister and pull her to her, and then thrust her away again, and directly pulled her to her by the sleeve of her frock—I am not married—I laid in at this time, and was sitting at the window—I was living with a person named Deans—I have lived with him nearby twelve months—I did not live with any body before him—I know a man named Lane, he was sent away from this place—after the prisoner pulled my sister to her, she screamed out, and was bleeding—I did not see any think in the prisoner's hand—she turned her back, and I supposed she might be hitting her with her first.

WILLIAM DEANS . I live with the last witness. I was at the window with her, and saw Maria Jenkinson playing with the prisoner's children—she had a blue pinafore in her hand waving about, and it touched the prisoner up in front of her—It was done accidentally as she was playing in the court—I do not know whether it touched her face or not—she said to her child, "Give me that knife, or else you will hurt yourself"—then Maria Jenkinson was standing in the court a little way off, she was coming by the prisoner, and happened to touch her again with the pinafore—she was running after the child—It was accidental, whisking it about, in playing with the other chil dren; it touched the prisoner behined, and then the prisoner took and caught hold of her by the frock, pulled her to her, and shoved her away again—then pulled her to her again, and that pulled all the plaits of her frock out—the prisoner had the knife in her hand, and she walked away—I saw the knife in her hand before she went to the girl, and I saw her walk away with in her hand, swinging it—the girl was then bleeding very fast, and was running up the court to her mother's—the prisoner went towards her own room—she went in, came out again, went into Mrs. Pearce's, and said, "Oh my God!I think I have cut the child"—the policeman came, and took her in charge—I have known the prisoner about two months is the court.

Cross-examined by MR. DUNBAR . Q. You describe that she touched the prisoner behind; how wide is the court? A. I suppose about five or six yards—she about two feet off her—there was snfficient room for her to pass the prisoner without touching her—she was leaning against Pearce's window—the prisoner appeared sorry for what she had done—I did not see the girl shaking the piece of cloth about, after she touched the prisoner—she had not been teasing the prisoner with it—she was waving it up and down two or three feet from the prisoner—I saw the prisoner's children in the court, playing about the door, and the prisoner was leaning against the window—I saw her children go towards her own door after the mischief—her touching her with the pinafore was about five minutes before this happened—the girl ran up the court with the pinafore in her hand after this was done—I do not know she did with it afterwards.

Q. From what you saw, might not the prisoner in attempting to take the cloth, have cut her without intending it? A. She might.

COURT . Q. Did she appear to you to strike the child? A. She got hold of her, and struck her—she had had the knife in her hand about five minutes at that time—she was leaning on it on the window, when she took it from her boy, and afterwards I did not see it till I was running down stares—I did not see the knife in her hand at the time she was close in contact with the girl.

ELIZABETH SINCLAIR . I live in Playhouse-yard, opposite the court; one of my windows commands a view of it. I was down stairs in the yard, just by the end of the court, standing talking to a person, and heard a few words occurring up Porrot-court—I saw the prisoner quarrelling with the girl; as I was talking to a person, I did not pay attention to the conversation: but in a moment I heard the prisoner say to the little girl, "You shall, Miss"—the child turned round in a very pert man ner, and said, "I shan't, Ma'mma"—with that I saw the prisoner makes a little bit of a rush, a very little distance, to get hold of the child; but the child got away; and about a minute afterwards she came waving a blue pinafore, tossing it round very close to the prisoner; but what she said I connot tell—the prisoner made another grasp to lay hold of the child—the child turned round again, waving the pinafore rather in a bravado—with that the prisoner returned, and was walking from Mrs. Peace's window to wards her own door—I saw her stoop towards one of her children, but what for I could not tell—I went across the road, to go to my own door, and scarcely got across before I heard a dreadful screaming—I ran up the court immediately—the prisoner was then walking past me, to her own door, with a kind of broad-bladed, white-handled knife in her hand—she went in-doors—she had something dark in her hand as she stood at the table, and wiped the knife on it—by this time the court was crowded with people—I saw the child's face bleeding in a very had way—the people all called to fetch a policeman, and give her in charge—the policeman came up the court: and as soon as the prisoner heard the policeman was coming; she ran out of her own passage to Mrs. Pearce's, and said, "Oh my God! I think I have cut the child, "and seemed very much agitated at the time—I did not wait to see her come out of Pearce's.

Cross-examined by MR. DUNBAR . Q. You took no further notice of the distarbance at first? A. No; for the prisoner and this little girl had quarrelled so often—they had many words almost every day in the week—she was exceedingly taunting to the prisoner—I belive the cloth struck her—It was close enough to do so—I did see the prisoner touched twice.

MARY ANN THOMPSON . I live in this court. I heard a violent scream ing, and saw the prisoner turn from the girl with the knife in her hand, and walk into her own room—I had not seen what passed before.

JOHN BONTHORN POPE . I am a policeman. I was called in, and took the prisoner up—I saw the girl standing in the court, supported by a man named Kirby, bleeding very profusely from the cheek, and her dress was covered with blood.

Cross-examined Q. The woman seemed exceedingly sorry, did she not? A. Yes; she said she was sorry it had happened, and that it was accidental; she this knife in the prisoner's room, lying on the table.

WILLIAM THISELTON . I am a surgeon. The girl was brought to St. Bartholomew's Hospital—she had two incised wounds, one in the cheek, the other in the back—the one on the cheek commenced, a little below the outer edge of the right eye, and terminated at the ear, taking an horizontal direction—It was generally superficial, not deep—the one on the back cor responded with the blade-bone in a curved direction, and in one part of its course about an inch deep—such a knife as this would have caused the wounds.

Cross-examined. Q. Might not any person, holding that knife, if they intened, have inflicted a wound many times the depth of this? A. A wound might have been much deeper and larger; the child being dressed would make a great difference in the back—It was such a wound as might be given in a struggle to take any thing from her.

Prisoner's Defence. It was quite accidental; I had no intention of hurting her.

WILLIAM COLE . I am in the employ of a potato-merchant of White cross-street. On Monday, the 7th of September, I was in Parrot-court, and saw the girl standing against the flat corner of the wall—the prisoner was standing as if she was speaking to her—I saw the little girl run from the wall, and make three or four distinct strikes with the apron or pinafore at the prisoner—the child lost its balance in striking, and the prisoner shut her eyes, and put herself rahter forward, with her eyes partly closed, and rushed forward to catch hold of her, but the child passed under her right arm and ran up the court screaming, "She has scratched me," or "cut me," I cannot say which—she hardly touched the girl—she ender voured to take hold of the child, but she passed under her arm and went away—I did not see her try to take hold of the cloth—It was mo mentary—she hardly had time to lay hold of it—I recollect seeing the sis ter standing at the window, exciting, the child to strike the woman—I did not see Deans there—I have not known the prisoner above a week—I never spoke to her but once previous to the accident.

COURT . Q. You say made two or three distinct strikes at the pri soner; what was it with? A. The pinafore or cloth.

ELIZABETH PEARCE . I am a widow, and live in Parrot-court. The prisoner lodged with me—I was out all day from eleven to after six o'clock on the day in question—when I came home the prisoner came up and said, "You are tired, will you have a cup of tea?"—she brought me a cup, and as she was turning back the girl took a cane from her boy—she wanted it, and would not give it to her—I said, "Do not raise a disturbance about it, I will get it for you"—the girl turned, and gave it to her mother—brother of the little girl came up and did that before her face—I said, "Never mind," then she came forward to my window, and I said, "Mrs. Pearce, I laid my dinner to-day, and laid two knivas on the table"—she staid there upwards

of ten minutes talking to me with the knife in her hand—It had been found, and the girl came up with a napkin or cloth, and slapped her, first on the right side, then on the left, and then made a glam at her right shoulder—the prisoner drew back, and she made a glam at her right shoulder—then prisoner drew said, "God drat you, am I to be murdered by you?"

Q. What, murdered with a pinafore? A. No; she made a glam at her right shoulder, and tore her gown—she returned back again, and the sister of the little girl called out, " Bill, Bill , go down and give it to the West end lady, the boarding-School lady," and Deans came down—that was after the child was hurt—she ran out, and came in to me, and said, "I am fear ful I have hart the child"—I have known the prisoner about three months—I never saw any thing amiss of her—her conduct was humane.

ELIZABETH DAVEY . My husband is a brazier, and lives in Long's buildings, Whitecross-street. I happened to go to Mrs. Pearce's on the 7th of September—the prisoner came to the window with a cup of tea, and was speaking about the young girl taking the cane—I saw the little girl come up, and strike the prisoner once or twice with a pinafore round her face—the prisoner pulled it off her face, and shoved her away with the hand the knife was in, and that is how the accident happened—It was done in an instant, with one blow—I never spoke to the prisoner.

JANE JAMES . I do not know the prisoner. On the day in question, I law her come up to the door with a knife in her hand—I saw the little girl come and strike her three times in the face, and then she seized hold of her arm, and tore her dress; and when I came down, I saw the little girl bleeding—after it happened, the prisoner said she was sorry for what she had done, that it was done momentarily, only was not aware she had the knife in her hand at the time.

NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

1998. HENRY HOUGH , alias Huffer , was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of march , at Hillingdon , I lamb, with intent to steal the carcase.

JOSEPH LITTLEBOY . I am a farmer. I went ground in the parish of Iver, but I live in Bucks—In Murch 1894, I lost a lamb—I had seen it in the morning of the 22nd, and missed it the next day—It was a fine lamb, worth 20 s .—It was in a field belonging to Mr. Townsend, in Hilling don parish—It was entirely taken away—I found no remains of it—the prisoner lived on Uxbridge-moor, four or five miles off—I have seen Haynes many times—he lived near Cowley, I believe.

RACHAEL HAYNES . I am the wife of George Haynes. In March last year we lived on Uxbridge-moor, about a quarter of a from Hilling don—he brought a knife and other things in a bag, and a cord—he came between eight and ten o'clock—he went out with my husband after that—the prisoner did not come back—my husband came back and brought a leg and should, and part of a lamb—the prisoner had said that he was going over Austin's-cut-bridge, into a field opposite Mr. Morris, on Uxbridge moor, they did not say for what—In the morning they said they went into the field over against Austin's-cut-bridge, opposite Mr. Morris'—that was all I heard said—my husband is in Clerkenwell prison for ill-using me.

JOHN GRANT . On the 22nd of August last I was coming from Ux-bridge, and overtook the prisoner on the road—he asked me if Haynes had said any thing about sheep-stealing—I said not—he said, "I was afraid

he had, for he was the worst of the lot," and that he was afraid to go home on that account.

JOHN BIRCH . I apprehended the prisoner about three weeks ago—I told him it was for stealing Mr. Littleboy's sheep—he denied all knowledge of it.

NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

1999. JAMES COLES was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of No vember , at Hillingdon , 1 ewe, value 30 s ., the property of Samuel Townsend .—2nd COUNT , for killing, with intent to steal the carcase.

SAMUEL TOWNSEND . I am a farmer, and have land at Hillingdon, I lost a sheep in November last—they were safe on the morning of the 14th of November—I missed this on the morning of the 15th—Ewer found the skin—I saw it, and can swear to the mark on it—It had been car ried away some distance, and was not butchered in the regular way—the head remained on the skin—I do not know the prisoner.

RACHAEL HAYNES . I am the wife of George Haynes, who is now in Prison. In November last the prisoner came to our house at night—I do not know the date—I was down stairs when he came—It was between eight and nine o'clock, I believe—he brought nothing with him—he went out with my husband, and they came back again—Coles brounght a live sheep into the house—the legs were tied with his boot-la laces—he killed the sheep, and, after it got cold, he skinned it—he left the head on the skin—they hung the sheep up in the back house, and took the skin away—I saw the sheep opened, it was an ewe—there was a lamb in it—I saw the mark on the skin—It was "S. T."—the prisoner said the sheep came out of Mr. Townsend's field.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE . Q. What time of night did he come? A. Between eight and ten o'clock—they went out and returned about ten o'clock—I was sitting up—I usually go to bed at any time before eleven o'clock, according to what work I have to do—I do field-work, and some times sew at home—I sat up to work for my family.

SAMUEL TOWNSEND re-examined. I was present at the examination before the Magistrate, and heard the prisoner give an account of the trans action—It was read over to him afterwards, and I believe he put his mark to it—the Magistrate signed it.

JAMES DARVILL . I am an officer. I saw the Magistrate sign this ex amination, and saw the prisoner put his mark to it—It was read over to him.

Cross-examined. Q. Was he asked if he had any thing to add to it? A. Yes—after it was read over—I saw the Justice write—I do not recol lect whether he was asked any thing.

Middlesex ( to wit. ) James Coles who is charged before us with feloni ously stealing a sheep, and after being cautioned by us, voluntarily says—That we (George Haynes and myself) were in Cooper's beer—shop, on Uxbridge-moor, where I lodged—Haynes often asked me to go and get a sheep, there or four times—On a very moonshiny night, Haynes said, "Will you go?"—We started and went into Master Townsend's field, where the sheep was—the sheep were laid down some, and some up, and he and I catched the sheep between us—we both helped to carry it to his house, and when we got in-doors there was no light—he waked her, (his wife,) and called her to bring a light down stairs—she got up and brought a light down—then he fetched a pan, clapped the sheep's neck across the pan, and stuck the sheep, and after the sheep had done bleeding, he takes and empties the blood down the necessary—we came back and helped to skin the

sheep—after it was skinned we tied the skin, head, feet, and gute all in a piece of old sack, went out of doors with it, and afterwards cam back and said he had chucked it into the river, near Lange-bridge—when he came back I left the house and went to bed—I left the sheep in the house—I went to work next morning, and afterwards to Haynes' house, and had some of the liver for breakfast next morning—Mrs. Haynes fried it—whatever became of the mutton afterwards, I know not—I never touched a bit of it.

The X mark of James Coles.

Taken before us, this 7th day of September, 1835.

Signed,

Thomas Dagnell.

Thomas S. Clashe.

ABEL EWER . I found the skin next morning in Long-bridge-river—the head was with it—I showed it to master.

MR. TOWNSEND . That was the skin of my sheep—I expected it to have a lamb. GUILTY . Aged 43.— Transported for Life .

Fifth Jury, Before Mr. Recorder.

2000. RICHARD JAMES SWIFT was indicted for stealing, on the 22nd of January , 1 sheep, value 1 l . 17 s ., the property of Joseph Road night .

RACHAEL HAYNES . I am the wife of George Haynes, who is in the New Prison. in January I saw the prisoner at our house, on Uxbridge moor—my husband went out with him about half-past eight or nine o'clock—he returned with my husband in about two hours—they had the carcase of a sheep with them—I was not in bed—I had a light, and saw the carcase of the sheep—It had no head on, nor nay feet, nor any entrails or skin—they both said the sheep came from over Mr. Austin's cut bridge, in a field behind Austin's mill—they did not say whose sheep it was—Mr. Roadnight's name was not mentioned that I heard—the carcase was left at our house all night—Swift came in the next night with my hus band, and some of the mutton was dressed for supper—Swift had some of it away afterwards, both raw and cooked, as far as it went—I cannot say how much he had.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE . Q. How long has your husband been in Clerkenwell prison? A. About five weeks to-morrow, I think—I have been in the poor-house for a fortnight—before that I was left with 1 s . 6 d . a week for my baby, and got a little washing—I did not go out to work in January—I had no work to do at that time—I have only been three times a witness on sheep-stealing cases in this court—my husband was a party to two other cases—I don't know whether he has ever been indicted—I don't live with him now—I lived with him till within about a week before be went to prison—he threatened my life, and I left him—I have never sworn that I was in bed when they brought the sheep home, nor that I struck a light—I was in danger of my life, and dared not tell about this before—I have not seen the prisoner above three or four times since; he worked at Benham's for Mr. Townsend—our house is not a quarter of a mile from where the sheep was taken—I first gave information of this the week before my husband went to prison—I said I would not live with him, and be threatened he would murder me—I had done nothing to him—I cannot say why he threatened me—he threatened to murder me a great many times, because he was guilty of things he should not have done, and he thought I should tell of him—I told of it the same week, and got him put in prison—he was a party to all three cases.

JOSEPH ROADNIGHT . I am a butcher, and live at Hillingdon. In January last, I had some fat wether sheep, which I kept in a field at the back of Austin's Mill, belonging to Mr. Williamson—I had from twenty in thirty—at the latter end of January, the head and four feet of a sheep were brought to me by my shepherd Brind—I had the skin of a sheep brought to me five or six weeks afterwards by Line a fellmonger—It had a mark of my sheep on it—when the head was brought to me, part of the car was left on it, and I found the corresponding part of the car on the skin.

Cross-examined. Q. Can you tell what day it was? A. The 22nd of January—the sheep's head was cut off, and not skinned.

THOMAS BRIND . I am shepherd to the prosecutor, and live at Hi lingdon. In January last my master had some sheep hehind Austin's mill—he had between twenty and thirty fat wether sheep—I went to count them one morning, and missed one—I searehed and found the head and feet in the ditch, at the bottom of the field—they had spilt the car in cntting the head off, and left part of it on—I afterwards saw the skin pro duced, and the part of the car corresponded with what was left on the head—I observed a mark on the shoulder of the skin, the same as master's sheep had—It was a roddle mark—I am satisfied it is the skin of the sheep master lost.

Cross-examined. Q. Had not your master any ewes? No; they were his mother's—the sheep had legs and heas at the time it was taken—the ruddle mark is a round dot on the shoulder—I swear to the skin by the mark.

MOSES MOODY . I am a labourer, and live at Hillingdon. About the beginning of March I was ploughing a field near Uxbridge, and found a sheep-skin swimming in the water—I brought it to land, and inside the skin found a little fat—and there might he a little bit of a bag in it—not an apron—I took the skin out and laid it out to dry on the hedge—I give it to Line—there was no legs or head to it.

WILLIAM LINE . I am a fellmonger, and live on Uxbridge-moor. In March last I went to the field where Moody was, and saw a skin—I ex amined it, and observed a ruddle mark on it—I took it to Mr. Roadnight—It appeared to be marked exactly like his sheep—I gave it to him—It was marked on the shoulder between the shoulder bones—all his that I saw were marked alike.

NOT GUILTY .

NEW COURT .— Thursday, September 24, 1835.

Second July, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2001. MARY JELF was indicted for a misdemeanour.

NOT GUILTY .

2002. RICHARD JELF and WILLIAM JELF were indicted for a misdemeanour.

MESSRS. SCARLETT and ELLIS conducted the prosecution.

JOHN CAMP . I am constable of Edmonton. On the 28th of August, I was passing Mr. Crank's door, and saw a great number of people there—he is a miller and flour-dealer—a person stopped me, and said I was wanted—I went in and saw Mrs. Jelf, the last prisoner, they gave me 1 s .—I gave instructions to Grimley to stop there—I got information; and pro ceeded to Tanners-and—I went to the house that the last prisoner had describded—I Knocked at the door, it was opened, I stepped in—I saw the two prisoners in the house, the son and father together—I asked Richard Jelf to give me leave to look over his house; he said yes, he had no objec tion

what was the matter?—his son them jumped up and ran up stairs—I caught up the candel and ran after him—when I got up into the room, which was small the lid of a box which was standing near the window fell down—I saw William Jelf go to the window and throw something out of his hand—I saw William Jelf go to the throwing out there? "—he said some thing which I could not understand—another officer came up stairs with Richard Jelf—I told that officer to go down stairs, which he did—I then took the candle, and in the garden, under the window from whence William Jelf had thrown something I found a bag with six bad shillings in it, and one good one—the father was standing near the back window—I did not see him do any thing—I turned round, and said to the two prisoners, "This is what I was looking for", showing the shillings—I put them into the bag, and took them both into custody—Richard Jelf then asked me if I knew where his wife was—I said, "Yes, in custody at Mr. Crank's"—I took them in my cart to the watch-house—I went next day to the pri soner's house, and saw Canning who gave me another counterfeit shil ling, which I have here—I went to the watch-house that afternoon, and asked Jelf how he was—he said he was pretty well, but not very com fortable, being in such a place—he said he was pretty well, but not very any thing about that being bad money, for I found it last Monday morning, 19 s ., in a paper, near stamford-hill gate, "and he did not know but that it was all good.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE . Q. When you knocked at the door you asked Richard Jelf how he did? A. Yes; when the son ran up stairs I did not hear him say he was shutting the window.

JOHN CANNING . I keep the Two Brewers, Tanner's-end. On the 28th of August these prisoners were taken into custody—next morning I found a bad shilling on my shed adjoining their house—they are tenants of mine—It was in a piece of white paper—I marked it and gave it to the constable—the back window is adjoining the shed.

Cross-examined. Q. Is there a way for passengers along there? A. It is no thoroughfare at all.

MR. PAYNE to JOHN CAMP . Q. How long was it after you took the candle to go into the yard before you came in again with the bag? A. Directly; I was but just outside where I had seen the swing of his arm out of the window.

JOHN FIELD . I am an inspector of counterfeit coins to the Mint. These six shillings are all counterfeit—this other one is good—three of them are cast in one mould; the other three are cast in another mould—this other shilling is also counterfeit, and resembles three of the others in the bag.

RICHARD JELF— GUILTY . Aged 48.

WILLIAM JELF— GUILTY . Aged 24.

Confined Eighteen Months.

2003. JOHN MORRIS was indicted for a misdemeanour.

MESSRS. SCARLETT and ELLIS conducted the Prosecution.

MARY LIZARS . On Sunday evening, the 23rd of August, at half-past seven o'clock the prisoner came to my house for a penny-worth of milk—he brought a basin—he gave me half-a-crown—I gave him 2 s . 5 d . change—I put the half-crown into my pocket—I had two others there—I knew they were good, as I had examined them just before—he asked me to give him change for a shilling—I gave him sixpence and sixpenny worth of halfpence—he told me to call the next morning at No. 10, St. John-street, and they would take a pint of ✗in the morning and half-pint

in the afternoon—when I discovered that the half-crown and the shil ling were bad, I put them in my pocket until the next morning, when I saw the prisoner in custody; I knew him again—I put my mark upon them, and gave them up before the Magistrate.

JOSEPH HAWKINS . I am a milkman, and live in Northampton-row On the 24th of August the prisoner brought a basin and wanted a penny worth of milk—he tendered half-a-crown—I ascertained it to be bad—I told him I would go and get change—I went to the station-house and got the officer—he told me to call at No. 5, John-street, night and morning—I marked the half-crown, and gave it the officer.

THOMAS SHEPHERD . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner—I re ceived this money from the witnesses—I searched the prisoner, and found two shillings, three sixpences and 1 1/4 d ., and the basin also—he told me he lived at No. 5, John-street, Wilmington-square.

JOHN FIELD . These two half-crowns are both counterfeit, and from the same mould—the shilling is also counterfeit.

GUILTY . Aged 20— Confined One Year .

2004. GEORGIANA CLEMENTS and JOHN HENDRY were in dicted for a misdemeanour.

ANNA DELANEY . I am the wife of Joseph Delaney, who keeps the Red Lion, Great Windmill-street, Westminster. On the 11th of Septem ber the prisoner Clements came in for a pennyworth of gin; she offered a bad shilling' I threw it into the till—there was no other shilling there—I gave her change—she went out of one door and the policeman came in with the other prisoner at the other—I gave the policeman the shilling which I had taken of the woman—he told me to mark it, which I did.

GEORGE STONE ( police-sergeant C 2.) I was at Brewer-street, on the 11th of September, at half-past two o'clock—I saw the two prisoners walking arm-in-arm, with an umbrella over them—they went into a cheesemonger's shop—they then went down into Great Windmill-street—I saw the man give Clements a shilling, and she went into the public-house at the corner of Archer-street—the man walked down the court; I followed him—he was going to put his hand to his mouth—I seized him—he struggled—I threw him down, and took from his hand a bad shilling, and a penny-piece—I took him into the Red Lion—I got this other shilling from the prosecutor, and then pursued the prisoner Clements, and found in her hand this good sixpence, and five-pence in copper—I searched Hendry at the station-house, and found on him a piece of bee's wax, ano ther bad shilling, and one shilling and five pence in copper.

Hendry's Defence. I had not had them in my possession a quarter of an hour—I had taken them for some steel pens, and was looking at what I had got under the court, as it rained—I knew no more of the money being bad than a child unborn—I think it was a planned thing to take me—I had sold my box and steel pens for 3 s . in the Haymarket—I never saw this young woman.

Clement's Defence. I received the shilling at the cheesemonger's Shop, which I took to this public-house, and got the gin and the change—I came out again, and saw the crowd—they said it was a young man taken for stealing a coat—I then went into the public-house again—this officer came and took me, and said I had been with this young man—I do not know him, and had not seen him.

GEORGIANA CLEMENTS— GUILTY . Aged 23.

JOHN HENDRY— GUILTY . Aged 21.

Confined One Year .

2005. JOHN JOHNSON was indicted for a misdemeanour.

MESSRS. SCARLETT and ELLIS conducted the Prosecution.

SARAH WHITE . I am the wife of Joseph White; be keeps the Golden Fleece, in Little Knight Rider-street. On the 27th of August, the prisoner came for half a pint of porter—I served him—It came to a penny—he gave me a counterfeit shilling—I saw it was counterfeit—I charged him with it, and gave him into custody—I gave the shilling to the constable shortly afterwards.

SIMON MARYON . I took the prisoner—I searched him, and found a good shilling and two halfpence, and two duplicates—White gave me this counterfeit shilling—the prisoner was remanded the first day, and was dis charged—he gave the name John Johnson.

FRANCIS ARKINSTALL . I am servant to George Smith; he keeps the Black Horse, in Barbican. On the 2nd of September, the prisoner came with two men and a woman—he called for a pot of porter, and gave me a counterfeit shilling—I sent for an officer—as soon as the prisoner saw our young man go out, he ran out of the door—I pursued him and gave him into custody, and gave the officer the shilling—he gave the name of John White.

EDWARD M'DONALD . I received the prisoner, and this counterfeit shilling—I found in his left-hand pocket, a good sixpence, and some half pence; and in his right-hand pocket, some sand; I suppose it is to keep the bad money rough.

JOHN FIELD . These are both counterfeit.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Confined One Year .

2006. JAMES COOPER was indicted for a misdemeanour.

W. CLIPTON . I am a policeman. On the 16th of September, I was in Orchard-street, Westminster—I saw the prisoner about five o'clock with two or three more—I followed them. but lost sight of them—some time after that I saw the prisoner come back and join two others—I ran back to the station-house, and called Claridge—we went to the foot of West minster bridge—I there saw the prisoner going along with his hand in his left-hand pocket—I laid hold of his hand and pulled it out—I found in it three counterfeit shillings—he said a gentleman gave him 2 s . for holding a horse in Regent-street, and a lady gave him another shilling for carrying a box.

JOHN CLARIDGE . I am a policeman. I was with the last witness—what he has said is true.

JOHN FIELD . These are all counterfeit, and all alike.

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Confined One Year .

OLD COURT .— Friday, September 25 th, 1835. First Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2007. THOMAS TANNER was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of August , 1 sovereign, 6 half-crowns, 11 shillings, and 4 sixpences, the monies of David Martin , his master.

DAVID MARTIN . I am a bookbinder, and live in Fountain-court, Strand. The prisoner was three months in my service—on the 14th of August, I gave him a sovereign and 28 s . in silver, to purchase some books

for me—he did not return, but in about five weeks his father gave him in charge.

WILLIAM BARRY . I am an officer. I took the prisoner in charge—his father gave him into my custody.

Prisoner's Defence. I am an officer. I took the prisoner in charge—his my pocket in Fleet-street, as I was returning home to my master, as I could not get the books. I had a paper under my arm. I met a man in Fleet-street, who began playing with me.

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Recommended to mercy.

Confined Three Months .

2008. JOHN GREEN was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of Sep temper , 1 handkerchief, value 2 s ., the goods of James Anderson Tucker , from his person.

JAMES ANDERSON TUCKER . I am a shopman to a grocer. On the 12th of September I was in Lawrence-lane, Cheapside, about twelve o'clock in the day—I felt somebody at my pocket—I felt and my hand kerchief was safe—I took my hand away and immediately afterwards heard a cry of "Stop thief"—I then found my handkerchief was gone—I saw the prisoner running away with it in his hand—I ran after him, and called "Stop thief"—I saw him throw it on the pavement, and picked it up—a gentleman stopped him till I got up—I never lost sight of him.

( Property produced and sworn to. )

Prisoner's Defence. He said at Guildhall, he did not know that it was his. I know the handkerchief was thrown, down but I did not have it.

GUILTY .* Aged 25.— Transported for Fourteen Years .

2009. WILLIAM CURTIS was indicted for feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of John Cave , on the 15th of September , and stealing therein 4 pieces of leather, his property.

JOHN LANE I am a shoe-maker. I rent a room in the parish of St. Luke's—the landlord does not live in the house—I have known the prisoner twelve Years—I went out at half-past four o'clock, on the 15th of Septem ber, and met him at the door of the Crown public-house as I returned—he asked me to give him some beer to drink—I went into the house and stop ped with him for a quarter of an hour—my little boy came and asked me for some halfpence to get some coals in—the prisoner left me in about five minutes, and asked me to stop there—the house is not fifty yards from the public-house—he returned to me in five minutes—when I got home I found my room door opened, and missed four pieces of leather—I spoke to him about it afterwards, and he denied it—I have not seen my leather since—It was about five o'clock when he left the house.

---- LANE . I am the prosecutor's son. On the 15th of Septemper, I saw my father and the prisoner at the Crown—I asked my father for money for coals—he gave me some—I went home for something to carry them in, and as I returned, I saw the prisoner in Ball-yard, near the house—he had got nothing—I saw him at the top of the stairs, withthe leather in his apron—I saw them distinctly—I said nothing to him—he went away with them—they have not been found—I had the key of the room, and had locked the dour—I went up, and found the door broken open—It was forced in—I looked towards where the leather was, and found it was gone.

Prisoner. Q. Can you positively swear it was father's leather? A. Yes—I cannot say the ninth commandment—people who tell lies go to hell.

JAMES VERSON . I am a policeman. I took the prisoner into custody—I went to the house afterwards, and examined the door—the lock had been forced.

---- LANE The prisoner does not live in the house—he does not work for my father—I saw him on the stairs at about ten minutes to five o'clock.

GUILTY of Stealing only. Aged 46.— Confined One year .

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

2010. HENRY STANYNOUGHT was charged, on the Corner's inqui sition, with the wilful murder of William Henry Duncan Stanynought .

JOHN FINCH . I am a school master. I have known the prisoner more than twelve months—he is a stationer and coal-merchant, and lived at 84, connaught-terrace, Edgware-road—his son was apupil of mine—his name was William Henry Duncan Stanynought—he was nine years old, and would have been ten in a few days—I saw him at nine o'clock the evening before his death—he was perfectly well—on the morning of the 4th of September I was sent for—a boy came to me who was in the prisoner's employ, about half-post eleven o'clock—I went over to his house imme diately—I live very near him—In consequence of what I heard below I went up stairs immediately—I spoke to the prisoner from the outside of his champer door, and he answered me from within—he said, "Don't come in; pray don't come in, Mr. Finch, I shall shock you"—he said that in a very agitated tone—the room door was a little open—he said those words several times—I said, "Pray let me come in; are you ill? what is the matter?"—I then went in, and found the prisoner in bed, withy his son by his side, apparently asleep—I begged of the father to tell me what was the matter—he said, "I cannot tell you; I dare not tell you"—I entreated him earnestly to tell me—when he told me had killed his poor boy, that he had wounded himself, and that he was dying—I immediately said I would fetch a medical man, and asked who I should fetch—he wished me to fetch Mr. Barker, the medical attendant of the family—before I did so he pointed to some letters lying on a chair by the bed-side, and wished me to give one to Mr. Barker, and two other letters to his wife—I took up those letters and a knife which was lying on the chair, and a razor on the drawers, and put them in my pocket—I then fetched Mr. Barker—he had pointed to the knife, and told me it was the knife he had stabbed him self witchy—there were marks of blood on it—It was partly covered with blood—I returned with Mr. Barker—we then examined the poor boy, and found he was quite dead—Mr. Barker examined the prisoner's wound—there was a slight wound on the boy's forehead—It appeared to me to be cut with a knife—It was a very slight wound—the face was partially black, and the features distorted—we removed the body into the next room, and the prisoner then told us how he had committed the murder—before that he said he had tried to destroy himself several ways, and had burnt charcoal three or four nights with that intent, but had been unsuc cessful, and had tried to stab himself to the heart, and that was unsuccessful—he then said the boy awoke up in the night with the smell of the charcoal, and after that he had suffocated him with the pillow—the body of the child was quite warm—Mr. Barker then left me with the prisoner, and I had some

conversation with him—he was very much agitated during the time of the conversation I had with him, and appeared in very great agony—I told him the boy had been a very affectionate child to him—he said "Yes, he was an affectionate child—there was not his equal—there was not a fault in him"—"that boy(said he) has been the greatest consolation to me, when I have been in tears—he has come and consoled me"—he was a very affectionate child, and I never saw a Kinder father than the prisoner—the prisoner then la mented what he had done—saying, "How could I do it?—how could I kill my poor boy?"—then again be would justify what he had done by saying the Almighty was not angry with him—that he had done a worthy deed—that it was a charity to kill the poor boy, for he would have been an idiot, and miserable for life, and afficted as his father, his grandfather, his great grandfather, and all his family had been—he said his father was blind at thirty—that his grandfather died in a madhouse that himself was grey, and his brothers hair was grey; and he dwelt very much on his family being afficted with this terrible malady—his great desire seemed to be for some body to destroy him—he wished for prussic acid, and was in very great agony—I had frequent opportunities of witnessing his conduct to his son, and I never observed a more kind and affectionate father.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. Was it immediately after he had said it was an awful crime, and how could he do it, that he followed it by saying it was a charity to do it? A. Yes; his mind appeared wandering at first lamenting what he had done, and the next moment justifying it—when I went to the room I found the door partly open—I did not see the knife till the prisoner pointed it out—there was a razor on the drawers—the boot-jack was also on the drawers—I had seen him caressing the child on the night previous before he went to bed.

COURT . Q. Did you perceive the fumes of charcoal in the room? A. No; I had a conversation with the prisoner, on the Tuesday evening re garding his health, and how he had been afflicted in his head—I called on him about eight o'clock—he told me he had sent his shopman and son to Astley's theatre, and after nine o'clock he should himself go to see "Fierchi" and asked me to go with him—I consented—I went to his house about nine o'clock, to go, and found him gone—I did not go myself—I went to see a friend, and at about twelve o'clock I met the prisoner at his own door—he asked me to go in—I went in, and sat with him till his son and shopman came home—during this time I had some conversation with him—I observed to him that his health appeared very good—he said no, his health was bad—that some years since, he was at Florence, and in the middle of the day, and was attacked with a disease, which afflicted him a long time, and he had a very long illness, and that in his head he suf fered ever since—that he was obliged to walk up and down in the middle of the night, and could not get rest, and that he hardly knew, in fact what sleep was.

EDGAR BARKER . I am a surgeon, I had not attended the prisoner before—I never saw him professionally before that day—I knew him as a neigh bour—Mr. Finch came to me on this morning and brought me this letter—( read )—"Dear Sir,—The great faith which my wife and myself enter tain for your abilities, is my apology for soliciting your attention to her at the present moment; my last request is, that you will cause to be com municated to her, my fate, with that caution and prudence which her con dition demands; my severe sufferings in the head have rendered life pain ful to me, and you, as a medical man, will easily conceive that without

health, or the most distant prospect of it, life could alone be painful to me.—Yours very truly,—H. STANYANUGHT ."—Wednesday evening.

MR. BARKER . I went immediately with Mr. Finch, and found Mr. Stanynought in bed, with his shirt smeared with blood, which had issued from a wound on the left side of him body, which he told me he had in flicted on himself; and the dead body of the child lay by his side—having ascertained that the wound had ceased to bleed, and was not of an immedi ate dangerous nature, I inquired into the cause of it—he told me he had plunged a knife into his side, and that he had destroyed his own child—that he had meditated doing so for a length of time, and had been most miscrable for many years—that he had brought the child from Gravesend on purpose to accomplish it—that he had burnt charcoal for several suc cessive nights for that purpose, and that on the night in question, failing to accomplish it by that means, he struck the boy with a boot—jack on the forehead, placed a pillow on his head, and amothered him by that means—I examined the body of the child which was lying on its right side, with the face towards the bed—It was livid, and the face somewhat swollen—the mouth open, the tongue protruded, and there was a cut in the centre of the forehead—I ascertained that the wound had divided the integuments only down to the bone, and had done no injury—I have no doubt, from the ap pearances, that the child had been suffocated—the prisoner's own wound was an incised wound on the left side of his body, in the chest, and had penetrated several inches—It was a very narrow escape of life—It was doubtful at the time, what would be the result—I left him in the care of Mr. Finch, and called some of his friends, who applied to a Magistrate—a police officer was sent to take care of him—I had another conversation with him, in the presence of another medical man, who I sent for—he had stated at the previous conversation, that he had alluded to some peculiar weaknesses—he said he had no objection to mention them to a medical man, they were of a private nature he said he had had them for many years—they had been sources of peculiar distress to him; particularly a weakness of the genital or gan, as he expressed it, and his son inherited weaknesses of the same nature, and they had been sources of deep misery to him—he rather recapitulated what has been stated by Mr. Finch—I remember his saying he was now most happy, and was more quiet and tranquil, at that period than he had been for some months—from all that I observed, I have not the slightest doubt, but he was in an unsound state of mind at that time.

MR. FINCH . This is the letter he gave me for his wife—( read )—"My dearest Lucy,—In my last moments I have to beg of you not to give way to despondency; this is the happiest moment I have long known. My poor little boy was doomed to suffer all his poor father, grandfather, great grandfather, and great—great—grandfather suffered before him; this has been the chief cause of my misery. I could not endure the thought; I never knew what it was to be happy, but have been acquainted always with desponding misery; my nerves unfit me for this world; to see my son nervous beyond any other child I have ever known, distracted me beyond redemption, and I inwardly feel that I am accomplishing the only action of my life for which I entertain any regard. Adieu, adieu, my blessed wife, may you never know the hundredth part of my sufferings. Kiss my two dear children.—H. STANYNOUGHT ."

MR. FINCH . The prisoner is a man in very good circumstances, not embarrassed in any way.

MR. M'MURDO . I am the surgeon attending Newgate. I have had the

prisoner under my observation during the time he has been in prison—my opinion is that his mind is unsound; I have not the least doubt of it—he has always continued in a placid happy contented state of mind.

NOT GUILTY , being of unsound mind at the time.

Before Mr. Justice Williams .

2011. JAMES CONNELL , THOMAS STEPHEN CHAPMAN , FREDERICK TUFF , ANN SMITH , and MARY BURNS , were in dicted for a robbery on Robert Lewis , on the 13th of September , putting him in fear, and stealing from his person and against his will, 1 hat, value 4 s ., his goods.

ROBERT LEWIS . I am a sailor. On Sunday, the 13th of September, about two o'clock in the morning, I was returning home down Back-lane, Smithfield—I was rather fresh—I remember seeing three sweeps and two girls standing together as I passed—I did not speak to them—the two girls left them and clapped hold of each side of me—they walked a little distance with me, and asked where I was going—I said I was going home—I walked a few paces further and two sweeps came before me and one behind me, and struck me—I did not hear them say any thing—they struck me, and I struck at them again—I fell down and my hat flew off—when I was down the sweeps kicked me—when I got up, I looked for my hat and it was gone—I do not know who had got it—It was a silk hat—I had bought it about four weeks before—that was all I lost—I cannot swear to any of the pri soners—I had no money about me—I had been to a public-house with a friend, who treated me—I had no money when I went out.

MARY ANN WOOTON . I am an unfortunate woman. I was out on the morning in question in the Back-lane, East Smithfield—I saw Lewis there at two o'clock—he had got hold of these two girls arm-in-arm, one on each side—I did not take notice whether they had hold of him or he of them—they were walking together—I then saw the three male prisoners about five minutes' walk from the prosecutor—they came up and knocked him down—I said, "For God's sake if you rob him, don't murder him"—with that the girls took his hat and went up Anthony-street—the male prisoners are the three sweeps—I had not seen them standing with the girls before—Connell said he would serve me the same if I did not go away—I saw one of them kick the sailor in the side at the time Connell knocked him down.

JOHN BARTON . I am a policeman. I remember seeing the sailor about two o'clock—I came up after it was over—he complained to me, and I took Connell into custody in Back-lane, about ten minutes after—they were all three together—I asked Connell what he had been doing—he said he had not done any thing—the prosecutor came up at the time, and said he had been struck, and I took him in charge for striking him—the prosecutor had marks of violence—the only charge he made was for assaulting him.

WILLIAM HAGGERTY . I am a policeman. I took up the other two male prisoners, and the two girls—I found them together—I called for a brother constable to assist me, and he asked them where the hat was—they all said they knew nothing about a hat.

Tuff's Defecne. I was walking with the other prisoners, and met these two girls, then came back towards them—the policeman came and took us all four up—I did not know what for.

Smith . I never saw any hat.

Burn's Defence . They had a girl up at the Thames police-office, who took the hat, and they let her go—she took the hat as the sailor fell, and ran away with it.

NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Justice Williams.

2012. ELIZABETH KNIGHT was indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of James Fearman , about the hour of nine in the night of the 15th of August , at St. Luke's Middlesex , with intent to steal, and stealing therein 1 bonnet, value 10 s ., and 1 towel value 6 d .; the goods of the said James Fearman .

JAMES FEARMAN . I am a labourer, and live in Golden-lane. The prisoner said she had no victuals, nor any home to go to, I took her into my house, and gave her a meal's victuals for nursing my child, that was about a fortnight before she stole this bonnet—she was with us about a week, nursing my child—I am only a lodger—we were obliged to remove from the house we lived in—the bonnet was in the room we moved to—we did not miss it till the 18th of August—It was stolen on Saturday the 15th, the day we moved, and a towel also—the prisoner had not gone to the new lodging with us, she quitted on Saturday evening, the 15th of August—I received information, and apprehended her with the bonnet on her head on the Tuesday following.

SARAH FEARMAN . I am the prosecutor's wife. I was moving my lodging about the middle of August, and the bonnet was taken to our new lodging—I saw it there on Saturday afternoon, the 15th of August, at about six o'clock, in the bonnet box, on the left hand side of the room—I missed it the following Monday, about nine o'clock at night—the door had been unlocked by a key—I found it unlocked—It was not broken—It must have been unlocked between nine and ten o'clock on Saturday night—I locked it about six o'clock, but I did not miss the bonnet till the Monday—I also missed a towel—I have not found that—I remember my husband bringing the bonnet back on the Tuesday—this is it.

GUILTY . Aged 17.—Of stealing only.— Recommended to mercy.

Confined Three Months .

Before Mr. Justice Williams .

2013. GEORGE NICHOLLS was indicted for killing and slaying David Ingram .

MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution .

CHARLES NEWMAN . I am a gardener, and live at Norwich. I was in London on the 7th of September, in the evening, at the corner of St. Mar tin's-le-Grand—the lamps had just been lighted—I observed a cabroilet coming from Cheapside, towards where I was standing—It was not more than three or four yards from me—It was not driving at an unusual pace—than did not observe any other carriage about at the time; the road was clear—I saw an elderly gentleman pass me, going from the umbrella shop to Panyer-alley, crossing form St. Martin's-le-Grand, across Newgate-street—I saw the horse's head, or some part of the animal, knock him down—he came in contact with the near wheel, and the street being slippery, forced him some little distance, and the wheel of the cab went over him—he was first knocked down by the horse, and came in contace with the wheel, that pushed him along about two yards, and at last went over him—I was at the hind part of the cab , and did not see the driver—I called out. "Halloo! stop"—as soon as he was knocked down—I called out loud enough for the driver to hear—he did not stop when I called—one or two witnesses picked the gentleman up, and I ran after the cab a witness had hold of it before I got up—It had proceeded nine or

ten yards—I did not see the driver offer to stop his horse—he must have been aware of going over the man—when the prisoner was stopped, he said, "Let me go"—I did not hear him told what had happened—he did not ask why he was detained—there was a man riding in the cab.

Cross-examined. Q. Was there any thing to attract your attention to the cab before? A. No; but it passed me, and I could not help seeing it—I was standing by the umbrella shop; the cab was coming from Cheap side way—whether it came out of Cheapside, I cannot say, or whether it came from the side of St. Martin's-le-Grand; but it was coming in that direction—I never saw it turn the corner; it was several yards from the corner—It was a little after seven o'clock, and quite dark, but the lamps were lighted—I called loud enough for the prisoner to hear me—I cannot under take to say he did hear me—I went after the cab, and had not overtaken it before it stopped—In my opinion he might have pulled up his horse before he was stopped; but he did not pull up himself.

MR. BODKIN . Q. He was three or four yards from you when you first saw him? A. Yes; and within three or four yards of the corner—he had cleared the corner before I saw him—I did not see the cab stopped—It was stopped gradually, as if a man had taken hold of the horse to stop it.

COURT . Q. Was there a coach, or any thing between the gentleman and the cab ? A. No.; nothing—It was all clear, so that I could see the hind part of the cab —there was nothing to hide the deceased from the driver.

JOHN HENRY SEXTON . I live in Milton-street, Cripplegate, and am an undertaker. I was four yards from St. Martin's-le-Grand, and saw the cab coming from Cheapside—It did not come down St. Martin's-le-Grand it—the driver was coming along at a fast trotting pace, what I should call swinging round the bend of Cheapside—I saw an elderly gentleman cross ing the road, and saw him knocked down by the horse—he went under the horse, which must have trampled on him—he then went under the off-wheel, the mud being slippery—he drew himself up from one wheel, and got under the other—the cab kept going on—the gentleman was pushed by the wheels, and at length the cab went over him—I called out loudly to the driver, directly I saw the gentleman against the horse's head—I said, "Halloo, for God's sake, stop, for you are running over some body"—I was then within a yard of the cab —he did not take the least notice, but kept striking the horse with the whip after I used that expres sion—a gentleman was sitting in the cab at the time, who did not attempt to get out—I went round the cab, and took the name and number, while it was going on—It had just passed over the body—I did not see him stopped, for my attention was directed to the gentleman, whom I assisted to life up—he walked two or three paces—he said, he had just left some friends at the Bull-and-Mouth inn—he had no sooner spoken, than he suddenly dropped, and I did not hear him speak a work afterwards—he was taken into Mr. Peppercorn's, in Newgate-street, and examined—I kept hallooing to the driver to stop, while the gentleman was in contact of the wheel—the whip was used after I called out, and before the wheels went over the body.

Cross-examined. Q. Where were you standing? A. I was passing by from the Post-Office—the cab was coming the opposite way—I am quite sure it came from Cheapside—several persons called out directly the gen tleman was knocked down—I saw Mr. Newman there, and he ran, I believe, to stop the horse—I know the neighbourhood—an accident is very likely

to happen there, as it is a corner—the gentleman in the cab sat still, as if nothing had happened—he made no offer to stop the cab —I am certain he heard me call, and I rather think he urged the man on—I took the name and number as it went on—a light shone on the plate—I saw both the name and number distinetly before the cab stopped—the glimmer from the lamps from Panyer-alley shed a light on it—I wrote the name and number down directly I got to Mr. Peppercorn's—I saw the gentleman crossing—he was all over mud when we took him up—I cannot say whether he had any thing over his eye—I do not think he took any means to avoid the cab, it came on him so suddenly—he was about one-third over the road before he was run over—he was a very stout gentleman, about fifty-six years old—he was walking at a pretty middling pace over the road.

JAMES BENWELL . I live in Titterton Terrace, Islington. I was in New gate street, against the second house from St. Martin's-le-Grand, on the north side of the street, within one door of the corner, standing on the curb with my face towards the road, and saw a cab coming from the East—I cannot say whether from Cheapside or St. Martin's-le-Grand—It was going at the rate they usually go at when they have got a fare—I should think from seven to nine miles an hour—I saw a man in the road in very immi nent danger, in consequence of the cab horse being so close to him—I thought it impossible he could get out of the way—I called immediately to the driver—I stood abreast of the driver at the time, and called out to him to stop—the cab was about the middle of the road—the road is about wide enough for three carriages to go abreast—the driver was directly facing me, on my side—the horse was close to the gentleman when I first saw it, but it had not touched him—I called out "Stop," loud enough for the driver to hear me—I should consider he might have heard me at three times that distance—the instant I called out, the man was stopped by the near shoulder of the home—the gentleman's face was rather obliquely towards Paternoster-row—he was knocked down—I saw him under the wheels a foot or two before the wheel came on his body—I never ceased calling out till I seized the horse by the reins—the driver used his whip and shook the reins to urge the horse on after I had called out, and other persons had called out—I ob served the wheel go over the gentleman—It brought the horse rather to a stand still—the man being so bulky—the driver was not allowed to proceed further, in consequence of my seizing the horse—the constable No. 99 came and took him—when I stopped the horse, I said, "You d----rascal, why did you not stop, you have run over the man"—he made no answer—he appeared quite stupid—I do not think he was drunk—he appears a very heavy stupid man—he said, "Take my number," or "You have got my number," and wanted to go away—If he had stopped when I first called to him the accident would have been prevented.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you hear any one besides yourself call out "Stop" before the accident happened? A. I did not—the horse was brought nearly to a stand still by the accident, and at that time he struck the horse with the whip—the near wheel came against the body, and at that time he whipped the horse—the gentleman was close to the horse when I called "Stop"—he was struck and staggered several paces, and the near wheel came against his side—he was struck almost at the same time as I called—the cabman could not have prevented the first blow being struck, I think, as he was too near the man—I have not driven lately myself—I have driven a chaise—he was going at a quick pace—I cannot exactly say the number of miles an hourhe had all the road to himself—there was no other carriage—"I

think it was impossible for the gentleman to avoid the horse—he was on the near side shoulder of the horse—pulling the right rein would have prevented the accident—I think the gentleman was aware of his danger—the gentleman's face was in an oblique direction towards St. Paul's—I had not seen him before he got close on the carriage—I saw a gentleman in the cab, and spoke to him in the prisoner's presence, when the policeman came up—I think the prisoner said he did not know that he had done wrong—t e gentleman in the cab told the prisoner where he lived.

MR. BODKIN . Q. What hospital did you see the gentleman taken to? A. Bartholomew's—the road being clear, if the driver was looking out he could have avoided the accident, if he was looking at the head of his horse,

COURT . Q. You are of opinion the first stroke could not have been prevented, the head of the horse being too near the gentleman? A. Ex actly so—In my judgement the cab was brought to a stand-still by the re sistance of the body when it was down—If he had pulled up with all his might at that time, he could have prevented the wheel going over,

JOSEPH GARDINER . I am a wholesale stationer, and live in Negate-street. I was called to my window by the alarm, and saw the gentleman lying on his back—I saw the near wheel pass over his body—the drive stopped nearly opposite out house, and asked what he was detained for—he said, "You have taken my number; how long do you mean to define me?"

GRORGE BROWNJOHN . I was present, and saw the accident—In my judgement if the driver minded what he was about—If he had been consicons any thing was under the wheel, he might have pulled up before the wheel went over the body, but he could not have stopped before the wheel clenched.

Cross-examined. Q. Did he appear conscious that the accident had happened? A. I think not, but my attention was directed so much to the gentleman—I took him up—I do not think the driver was conscious of what happened, on account of the distance which the wheel pushed the gentleman.

COURT . Q. How long before it happened had you seen the cab ? A. It was going in the same direction as me—I saw nothing of it before.

JOHN PAYNE . I am in the employ of Mr. Butler, of Cheapside. I was one door from the corner of Panyer-alley—the cab appeared to me to come from the corner of Cheapside—It did not appear to me to be going at an unusual pace—It was trotting—I observed the gentleman cross—he had a green shade over one eye; I believe the left—the head of the horse was at least four yards from the gentleman when I first saw him—the gentleman was about half-way across—I saw nothing to prevent the driver seeing him—It was the calling out which attracted my attention—several persons shouted before the horse came to him, and if the driver had stopped then, no accident would have occurred—I observed the horse strike the gentleman, and was so shocked as it forced him down, that I put my head to my eyes, and did not see the wheel go over him—I saw him afterwards at the hospital dead.

Cross-examined. Q. Which way was the gentleman crossing? A. From St. Martin's-le-Grand towards Panyer's-alley—the horse knock ed him down—he walked at a slow pace—my opinion is, if the gen tleman had been an active person he might have got of the way-at the same time, there was time for the cab -man to draw up his horse, when he was first called to.

COURT . Q. How long had you seen the cab before the accident hap pened? A. Not more than two seconds—It was about four yards from the gentleman.

WILLIAM THOMAS . I live in Skinner-street. I was walking towards Cheapside, and observed the wheel on the body of the gentleman—It had not passed over him then—the driver kept on his pace—I did not see him do any thing to the horse—I stopped the horse after it had passed over the gentleman.

WILLIAM THISELTON . I am one of house-surgeons of St. Bartho lomew's hospital. I was in attendance when the deceased was brought in, and examined him—there was a fracture of five ribs—three on the right side, and two on the left—one of them was broken in two places, and evi dent symptoms of severe internal injury—he died on the following Sun day—there was a post mortem examination—I found the ribs broken, and a laceration of the spleen—a large artery and vein severed across, and several parts protruded—I attribute his death to those injuries.

BENJAMIN WILLIAM BARSLEY . I was acquainted with the deceased, David Ingram. He was about 56 or 58 years old—he came over to this country in June, having a cataract in both eyes—one had been removed, and the other also—he had a shade over his left eye—he was in perfect health—I never knew him at all deaf—I saw him in the hospital—that was the gentleman I speak of.

Cross-examined. Q. Had both eyes been operated upon at the time of the accident? A. Yes; and one had a shade from a slight inflammation which he had—he was in the habit of wearing spectacles in the street—I heard him express himself that his sight was considerably affected, but he could see perfectly well with his right eye with his spectacles.

Prisoner's Defence. I did not see the gentleman at all. I never knew any thing of it—the gentleman in the cab said he did not see the gentle man, and asked what I was stopped for—he told the policeman where he lived, and gave me his direction, but I was so frightened I could not take it—I was going to Berkeley-square with him—I declare to God I knew no more about it than a child unborn.

WILLIAM THOMAS WATSON . I am a linen-draper, and live in John-street, Tottenham-court-road. I was in Newgate-street on the evening of the accident, about seven o'clock—I was standing at the corner of, I think, Mr. Walkins's umbrella shop, waiting for a friend of mine, and saw the cab coming up—I heard "Stop, stop!" called—I immediately went on the other side of the way and saw a horse stumble and plunge a little way—soon after that a tall thin gentelman, (I think, dressed in black,)got out of the cab —I saw the prisoner taken into custody—he said, "Take me where you will, I am willing to go, "or something to that effect, "I am not con scions of doing any harm. "

MR. BODKIN . Q. Perhaps you can tell us whether the cab came from St. Martin's-le-Grand or not? A. It certainly came from St. Martin's-le Grand—decidedly so.

JOHN GILLMAN . I am out of business. I have been a coal-merchant, and live in Gough-street, Gray's-inn-road. On the evening of the 7th of September, I was coming down Aldersgate-street—I saw the prisoner with a cab he was sitting on the driver's seat, at the beginning of St. Mar tin's-le-Grand. in Aldersgate-street, on the rank—I saw him called, and he went off to the left band, to the corner of the Post-office—It

went to the corner of Newgate-street—he took off at the corner of the Post-office, and went to Newgate-street—I did not hear of the accident till two or three hours afterwards.

MR. BODKIN . Q. Then he started from the corner of the Post-office, did he? A. No; from the rank—he was on the Post-office side, and started from that point—he took the gentleman up off the pavement, per haps five or six yards from the corner—he had all the breadth of St. Mar tin's-le-Grand to go.

(John Blacklock, cab-proprictor, Dudley-street, Silver-street; John Risley, poulterer, Redcross-square; John page, potatoe-salesman, Great Chapel-street, Westminster; and—Nuttman, Old Bailey; gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 56.— Recommended to mercy. — Confined Six Months .

Third Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2014. EMMA SMITH and GEORGE PALMER were indicted for stealing, on the 26th of August , 1 watch, value, value 40 s .; 1 chain, value 2 s . 2 keys, value 1 s .; the goods of James Bedlow , from his person.

JAMES BEDLOW . I live in Ireland, but I have been stopping in Drury-lane On the 26th of August I was on my way down Fleet-street, about half-past twelve o'clock, going home—I lodged at that time at Mr. Dray's—I returned home from seeing a few friends, and as I came down Fleet-street the female prisoner came out of Chancery-lane—she took hold of me—I was walking very quick at the time, being in a hurry—I thought to get from her, and said, "My dear, you had better let me go"—she pulled me up the street a little, put her hand to my smallclothes, gave it a pull, and worked the watch out, and ran—I went to button my smallclothes and missed the watch—I ran after her, and when I got within a few yards of her she gave the watch to a man in a sailor's blue jacket—he ran with the watch—she took hold of my coat behind to prevent my following, and the watchman came up—the male prisoner was the man she gave it to—he was not above half-a-dozen yards from the spot—I could see the watch handed from her to him—I dare say he was eight, or ten, or twelve yards off—I cannot form a judgment whether he was aware what she was about—these was light—I think he was near enough to see her take it—he was near enough to see me and her—I had nothing whatever to do with the female, and had no intention—I saws her hand the watch to Palmer, and he ran away with it—I was not two yards from him when I saw it in his hand—I could almost have laid my hand on him, only she caught me by my coat to prevent my following him—I remained in that way till the watchman came up—the man was taken about a fortnight afterwards I believe—I have never seen my watch again.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE . Q. You say this was about twelve o'clock at night? A. Yes—I had dined that day in Red Lion-street with a friend from Calcutta, about four o'clock—when I returned home I called to see a couple of friends at Mr. Watson's, in Drury-lane—I stopped about two hours where I dined, and drank a couple of glasses of gin-and-water, I suppose not more, and some ale at my dinner—I do not think I had above a pint of half-and-half at Mr. Watson's—I staid there about an hour and a half, or two hours—I was coming home, and Mr. Anderson, my friend, walked home with me, and when he came to his own door he said I should go and have supper with him—his house is on the left of Drury-lane—It then wanted about a quarter to twelve o'clock—I do not suppose I had left him more

than ten minutes—I was walking about from six o'clock—I did not go any where to get refreshment—I had a little bread and cheese, and about half a glass of beer at Anderson's—I was perfectly sober—I was coming to the Old Bailey, to Mr. Daly's where I was then lodging, and when I came down there, the door was locked, and they were gone to bed—they thought I was in bed—I rang the bell, and could not get in—I returned, intending to sleep at Mr. Foley's the friend I had left in Drury-lane—I never saw the person who received the watch before—I came over here on some law business of my own—I am quite sure I was quite sober—I did not see the man at all till the woman took the watch, and ran to him with it, and gave it to him—after he took the watch from her, he flew off in an instant—she held her hand up, and gave him the watch—I saw him quite plain, he had a blue jacket on—I can prove he is the man—I told me Magistrate I was not sure, in consequence of the dress he had on—I said I could not swear to him in the dress he wore then, which was a butcher's jacket—the Magistrate told him to take off his jacket, and he had a jacket on under that—I said it was a buttoned jacket—the Magistrate told him to button it, and I identified him directly—I could not run after him, as the woman held me by the coat—I could not get from her—I am positive he is the man—I saw his face when he took the watch—I did not see it for above a second—he then turned his back to me—I persist in swearing to him—he had a blue jacket on.

JOHN LEWIN . I am watchman. On the 26th of August, I was at the corner of Chancery-lane—I heard a noise—I went up, and saw the prisoner Smith holding the prosecutor by the tail of his coat—I took her hands from his coat, and took her into custody—he said she had stolen his watch, and given it to a man in a blue jacket.

Smith . He took me and another female up a turning in Chancery-lane and gave me half-a-crown—I would not consent to what he wanted, and he wanted the half crown from me.

JAMES BEDLOW . On my oath, I was not four minutes with her—I had not a shilling in silver that night—I did not give her half-a-crown—there was not another female with her.

JOHN LEWIN re-examined. I had seen the two prisoners together five minutes before, at the corner of Chancery-lane, standing talking together—I have known Palmer two or three months—I cannot be mistaken in him.

Cross-examined. Q. Where is your beat? A. From St. Dunstan's church, and up Chancery-lane-there are a great many people about there—I did not known where to find Palmer—my fellow watchman took him on the 10th of September—I knew him before, by seeing him in Smith's company, I dare say two hundred times.

Smith's Defence. I had not seen this young man for three days before I was accused of this.

Palmer's Defence . I never saw the watch nor the man.

JAMES BEDLOW re-examined. The coat the prisoner has appears to be the same he wore before the Magistrate—It is not the jacket he wore on the night of the robbery—he had that on before the Magistrate, under the one he now wears—I have inquired about my watch, but cannot find it—I saw Palm er four or five days after, going into a house between Temple bar and Drury-lane—I did not see his face, but I knew the jacket—I ran and got a policeman—I said "I really think the man is gone into the house, but I did not see his face"—he said he could not do any thing in it—I

had better get a county policeman—I thought he was the man, from his size, figure, and jacket—he had a round jacket, like a sailor's, with pockets to it, and rather fine cloth.

JOHN LEWIN re-examined. I have heard the jacket described, and can say that for the last months Palmer wore the same jacket.

GEORGE BAKER . I took the male prisoner in Fetter-lane—I first saw him looking into a cook-shop—I knew his face—I crossed over, and he ran away into Fleet-street—I sprang my rattle and secured him.

Cross-examined Q. How many times before had you seen him? A. I saw him on the night of the robbery in Fleet-street with the female prisoner—I knew him before that.

EMMA SMITH— GUILTY . Aged 19.

GEORGE PALMER— GUILTY . Aged 25.

Transported for Four teen Years.

2014. THOMAS ROWLINSON was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of September , 1 coat, value 3 s . 6 d .; and 1 pair of shoes, value 1 s . 6 d .; the goods of Thomas Parver .

THOMAS PARVER . I keep a coffee-shop in High-street, Islington. On the night of the 17th of September, there was an alarm of a coat being lost—I heard the door shut, ran out, and saw the prisoner six or eight doors off with the coat, which he dropped, after running six or eight doors further—I lost sight of him, but to the best of my knowledge he is the man—he also threw away a pair of my shoes, which I had placed at the foot of the stairs about two or three o'clock that afternoon—the prisoner had been taking coffee in the house, and paid for it.

ESTHER DAWKINS . I am the prosecutor's sister. I was coming out of the kitchen, and saw the prisoner with my brother's coat in his hand—I told my brother, who pursued him—the coat had hung at the bottom of the stairs with the shoes.

JOHN ARCHER . I live in Rawstorne-place, Clerkenwell. On the night in question I saw the prisoner running with the coat before him—I heard an alarm—he dropped the coat, and I picked it up.

WILLIAM BARTON ( police-sergeant G 1.) I received the prisoner in charge—he said he did it through distress—I found 8 1/2 d . on him.

The prisoner begged for mercy.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Six Months .

2015. CHARLES DUNCAN was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of August , 1 pair of half-boots, value 3 s . 10 d ., the goods of Alan Gardner Niner ; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

ALAN GARDNER NINER . On the 20th of August, I employed the prisoner to take a board about the streets, and to run on errands—he brought his board back in the evening, took it into the back-shop, and took a pair of boots off the line—I deal in boots and shoes—I did not see him take them, but he came forward to the door—I stopped him—he said he had got them, but was at the same time pushing them down his bosom—I took them from him.

DANIEL PAMPLET . I am a patrol of Bishopsgate. I took the prisoner in charge with the boots.

WILLIAM BARTON . I am constable of Bishopsgate. I produce a cer tificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from Mr. Clark's office—I was present at his trial—I am sure he is the boy ( read. )

GUILTY . Aged 14.— Transported for Seven Years .

2016. JOHN THOMPSON was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of September , 1 handkerchief, value 3 s ., the goods of James West , from his person.

JAMES WEST . I live in Sidney-street, Somers-town. On the 11th of September, between twelve and one o'clock, I was in High-street, St. Giles's, and felt a tug at my pocket—the prisoner passed me with my handkerchief, which he put between his waistcoat and coat, folded his arms, and ran across the street, into Russell-street, and Hanway-street—I called "Stop thief"—he was stopped very soon after he entered Hanway-street—I hobbed up to the crowd—a man said, "I have got him; is this your handkerchief?"—I said, "Yes, give it me"—the crowd got round and I went to the station-house with him—this is my handkerchief—I am sure I saw it in the prisoner's hand.

RICHARD PASSEY ( police-constable V 100. ) I was on duty, and saw a crowd crossing towards Hanway-street—the prisoner and handkerchief were given to me—he said at the station-house that he had never done any thing of the kind before, and did not know what made him do it then, but he wanted something to drink.

GUILTY . Aged 25.— Confined Six Months .

NEW COURT . Friday, September 25 th , 1885.

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2017. NATHANIEL FRENCH was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of July , 3 pair of bell-pulls, value 3 l .; 100 yards of linen cloth, value 12 l .; 16 shirts, value 8 l .; 11 yards of damask, value 2 l .; 12 handkerchiefs, value 1 l .; 1 table-cloth, value 1 l .; and 8 yards of muslin, value 10 s .; the goods of Thomas Hodgkinson , his master: also, for stealing, on the 27th of May , 100 yards of linen cloth, value 12 l ., the goods of the said Thomas Hodgkinson , his master: also, for stealing, on the 19th of May , 70 yards of damask, value 10 l .; and 2 table-cloths, value 14 l .; the goods of the said Thomas Hodgkinson , his master; to which indictments he pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 42.— Judgement Respited .

(The prisoner received a good character.)

2018. THOMAS JONES was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of September , 1 pair of half-boots, value 5 s ., the goods of George Powell .

JOHN FRAZIER . I was walking past Mr. Powell's shop, on the 8th of September, about half-past eleven o'clock, and saw the prisoner at the door, looking at the shoes which hung on the nail; he then took a pair and ran off with them—I ran after him, and told the officer to stop him.

JOHN STOKES ( police-constable G 79.) I was called, and took the prisoner with these boots on him.

GEORGE POWELL . I keep the shop, which is in Holborn. These boots were hanging outside my door on the 8th of September—they have my name on them.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years .

2019. HENRY CROUCH was indicted for stealing on the 2nd of September , 1 truck, value 4 l . 4 s ., the goods of Philip Hitching .

PHILIP HITCHING . I live in Golden-lane. On the 2nd of September, at half-past three o'clock, a person came for a truck to take some goods

from Leonard-street—I forget the name he gave—I saw the trunk again on the 10th of September, at Mr. Moore's—It is mine.

WILLIAM MOORE . This trunk was at a wheeler's, in Grey Eagle-street, of the name of Boswell—I bought it there for 25 s .—It was worth 50 s . if I had repaired it—a man named Hitching was in the yard; and another young man, whose name I do not know—the prisoner and another came to my house with the trunk—I laid the money down—I cannot say who took it up, but the prisoner was there when I paid—this was on the 2nd of September, about seven o'clock at night.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Had you known the young man before? A. I never saw him before—he did not come to me at a public-house, but I was in a public-house, and he went by—I ran out and seized him—there was another with him who got away—the prisoner surrendered—this was the day after I bought it.

JURY . Q. How came you to go after the prisoner? A. Mr. Hitching came and claimed the trunk after I bought it.

JOHN BURLEY ( police-constable G 50.) I went with the prosecutor to this witness's house, and found the trunk—the prisoner was brought to the station-house the next day—he had the inspector that he received an equal share of the money.

Cross-examined Q. Is the inspector here? A. No—I did not state this before the Magistrate.

Prisoner's Defence. I was coming down Old-street, and a man asked me if knew a person who wanted a handly thing, like that trunk—I knew the wheelwright, and took him there—he said he could not purchase it himself, but he thought he could get acustomer—I then went to Mr. Moore—he paid the money, and I signed my name to it, but the other man received the money.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— confined Three Months .

2020. GEORGE BAILEY was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of September , 1 pair of boots, value 5 s .; end 1 waistcoat, value 6 s .; the goods of Thomas Brown : and I tooth-pick, value 8 d ., the goods of James Brown .

THOMAS BROWN . I am a saddler. I missed a pair of boots and a waistcoat on the 6th of Semtember, from my bed-room—I have seen the boots since—they are mine, and the waistcoat is mine—this is it.

JAMES BROWN . I lost a silver tooth-pick about two months before the prisoner was apprehended—this is it.

GEORGE JONES . I am a pawnbroker, and live at Mr. Flemming's Far ringdon-street. I have these boots—they were pawned the 5th of Sep tember, in the name of Brown—our foreman took them in—he is not here—he could not tell who pawned them.

WILLIAM LIVERMORE . I produce a waistcoat pawned at Mr. Cockle's in Shoe-lane, on Monday the 7th of September, in the name of John Jones—I cannot say whether the prisoner was the man.

JOSEPH BROWN . I took in this tooth-pick of the prisoner, I believe for 4 d ., but, being a busy day, I could not swear to him.

MARY BEADLE . I heard a noise in the prosecutor's room on Tuesday evening the 8th of September at dusk, I ran out and screamed—several persons and the policeman acme in, and on going up stairs the prisoner made his escape from the room into own—his brother lodged in the

next room—that door was locked—he got in with his own key, I suppose—he was locked in.

Prisoner. Q. How did you know it was me? A. There was no other man in the house, and no one could make their escape; there was no one in the house but me and another female, and two or three children; the street door was not opened till I opened it.

COURT . Q. Did you see who the man was? A. I lifted up the bed quilt and saw a man under the bed, I than ran into the street, and some men came in—I do not know who, but I went up stairs first; the men followed me—there was no one there—we then went into the prisoner's bed room, which was opposite mine—and there he was on the bed ap parently asleep—I can swear it was a man.

WILLIAM GARRARD ( police-constable G 169.) I went to No. 25, Iron monger-street, and took the prisoner—and in his hat, under the lining, I found the duplicates of this property.

GEORGE JONES . This duplicate corresponds with mine.

WILLIAM LIVERMORE . This duplicate corresponds with mine.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Tranported for Seven Years.

2021. KEZIA SCASEBROOK was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of August , 1 shawl, value 8 s .; 2 yards of linen cloth, value 5 s .; 14 yards of silk, value 2 l . 16 s .; 5 1/2 yards of satin, value 1 l . 7 s .; and 1 veil, value 4 s .; the goods of Charles Edwards , her master.

SARAH EDWARDS I am the wife of Charles Edwards—we live in Sharp's-alley—the prisoner was my servant-of-all-work—I dismissed her on the 10th of August, and on the 2nd of September I missed fourteen yards of silk, some satin, a piece of Irish linen, and the other articles—these are them.

Cross-examined by . MR. BODKIN . Q. How long had she been in your service? A. From ten to eleven days—I had known her before—I have heard she had formed an unfortunate acquaintance with a young man who has acted extremely ill to her—I saw him once—he was very respectably dressed—these are all articles of finery—I would take the prisoner into my service again directly.

GEORGE PITMAN ( police-constable G 141.) I took the prisoner—I found these articles in a drawer at her lodgings—she said she took them.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Recommended to mercy by the prisoner and Jury. — Confined Five Days .

2022. ANN HANLON was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of Septem ber , 3 pints of gin, value 3 s .; 2 bottles, value 2 d .; 1/4 of a pound of sea, value 2 s .; 1/2 a pound of sugar, value 6 d .; 1/2 a pound of soap, value 3 d .; 1/2 a pound of candles, value 3 d .; the goods of John Barton , her master.

JOHN BARTON . I keep the Fox and Anchor public-house, in St. Sepul chre. The prisoner was my servant, and had a room at the top of the house—of the 6th of September, I got an officer and searched her room—I found these bottles, the gin, tea, soap, and other things—I saked where she got them—she acknowledged that the whole of them had been taken from me.

( GEORGE KNOTT ( police-constable G 99.) I was present when these things were found—she owned they were her master's.

GUILTY . Aged 44.— Confined One Month .

2023. GEORGE HAMPTON was indicted for stealing on the 14th of August , 1 soverign, 1 shilling, and 1 sixpence; the monies of Richard Withers .

RICHARD WITHERS . I am a butcher, and live at Manor-buildings, Chelsea. The prisoner brought home seven pigs in a cart, on the 24th of August—I employed his brother, and his brother employed him—the pri soner asked me if there was any money to go back for Edward Downie, I said there was 25 s . 6 d ., and gave him a sovereign, five shillings, and six pence—I gave him 2 s . 6 d . for the cartage, and 2 d . for himself.

Prisoner. I did not ask for the money, nor make away with one farthing of it, but my pocket being bad, I lost it coming home.

JOSEPH HAMPTON . I am the prisoner's brother, I did live in New-street, Cloth-fair. I told my brother to go with these things to Chelsea, and deliver them to Withers—I never received any money from him—he brought the donkey and cart home, and left them in the street, and went away himself—I did not see him till the Saturday night following—he then said he had lost the money, and was afraid to come home for fear of being ill-used—I have trusted him with a great deal before, and never knew any thing amiss.

NOT GUILTY .

2024. ELIZA JONES was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of September , 1 pocket, value 1 d .; 1 purse, value 1 d .; 1 needle-case, value 1 d .; 1 key value 1 d .; 1 purse, value 1 d .; 4 half-crowns, 7 shillings, 5 sixpences, and 10 pence; the goods and monies of Judith strowse , her mistress.

JUDITH STROWSE . ( By an interpreter. .) I hired the prisoner into my service—I took her to sleep with me—all the things were in my pocket, which I put under my pillow—I missed her in the night, and the pocket also—I went to look for her, and in about two hours I found all the pro perty stated on her—I gave the prisoner and property to the policeman—she said she would never do it again.

WILLIAM BARRY ( police-constabel H 59.) I was on duty on the 5th of September, at Whitechapel—I heard the cry of "Police"—I went up—the prosecutrix had the property in her hand—she gave it to me. and gave the prisoner in charge for robbing her of 17 s . 10 d ., and these articles—the prisoner said nothing.

JURY to MRS. STROWSE . Q. What sort of a house do you keep? A. I have only one room—It is in Five Ball-court, Houndsditch—I have friends that give me now and then something to live upon—I wanted some one to take care of my child, which is since dead.

GUILTY . Aged 15.— Confined One Month .

2025. HENRY FRANKLIN was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of August , 1 knife, value 6 d .; 1 pair of shoes, value 8 s .; 1 pen knife, value 6 d .; 1 sniff-box, value 2 d .; 1 tobacco-pouch, value, 6 d .; and 6 shillings; the goods and monies of Charles Stonestreet , from his person; and that he had been before convicted of felony.

CHARLES STONESTREET . I live at Hillingdon. On Saturday the 29th of August, I was at the Bell Yard, Uxbridge—I sat down at the door, and fell asleep—I had all these things in my pocket, and a pair of shoes tied up in a handkerchief in my hand—the prisoner awoke me by taking these things from me, and the witness was pulling him from me—he pushed the other man down, and ran away—no one else had been there, to my knowledge.

Prisoner. Q. Was it moonlight or dark—It was nearly light, in the morning, about three o'clock.

CHARLES CLARKE . I was sitting in the Bell Yard, up against the wall to rest—we were dozing till about two o'clock in the morning—I saw the prisoner's right hand in the prosecutor's left pocket—he flung me down, and went away—the prosecutor and I went down the yard after him—I waited till I could see him run out—I went and called the constable, and had him put into the cage about half-past five, there were three shillings found on him.

Prisoner. This man I never saw before—It is impossible for a man in liquor to swear to me.— Witness. I was not in liquor—I am sure that is the man that did it.

JAMES DARNELL . I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former con viction, which I got at Mr. Clark's office—the prisoner is the man.

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Seven Years .

2026. WILLIAM NICHOLAS TOVEE and MARY TOVEE , were indicted for stealing, on the 31st of July , 37 lead lights, value 4 l .; 9 wooden doors, value 30 s .; 19 glazed window sashes, value 4 l .; 5 s .; 1 shelf, value 2 s .; and 3 locks, value 2 s .; the goods of Ann Smart , being fixed in a certain building, against the statute, &c.

MR. MAHON conducted the Prosecution.

EDWARD SMART . I live at No. 10, Titchburn-street, Regent-square, and am a carver and gilder. Mrs. Ann Smart is my mother—she is the pro prietor of two houses in Booth-street, Springfields—I knew the prisoner, William Nicholas Tovee—I have seen the other prisoner in the smaller house—In November, the male prisoner applied to me on the subject of taking these houses, and on the 19th of December, we came to the agreement, and I delivered him the key of the two houses, with a yard at the back—one is considerably larger than the other—they wanted some small repairs, for which a peppercorn rent was to be taken for the first three months—I had been over the houses three or four weeks before, they then had doors, windos, and some locks—I cannot say how many, but the fixtures were all correet—there were cupboards and shelves in them, but the cupboards were not in a very good state—about three weeks after be took possession I was in the neighbourhood, and called to look at the larger house—there was a bill in the window of the smaller house, saying that the larger one was to let—It was in the same state, excepting a little white-washing—I have seen them both since the prisoners have been in custody, and there is not a door, or window, or shelf, or cupboard-door fixed in the houses—every thing is taken away—they all belonged to the landlady—no one but Toves had the occupation of the houses.

WILLIAM NICHOLAS TOVEE . Was there one light in a hundred that was whole? as for the doors, they were not flt for fire-wood, and the floors were sunk six or eight inches—the two old street-door locks were not worth a penny, and you know Mr. Keen, in Kingsland-road, sent his two men to repair the premises—I was not near the premises for eight weeks.

Witness. I know the locks to be perfectly good, for I tried them myself—the doors were in a fair tenantable condition—the windows and frames were put in seven years back, and they were sound and good—they would have stood the whole term of twenty-four years well—there might have been broken glass.

Prisoner. Nearly all the glass was broken. I have never touched a thing in this house that was fit to repair. Witness. There was one room which he only took the bottom sash from—I have brought the other

sash here, to the state it is in—this is very good—the other were all in the same state—the lead lights were not broken to pieces—there might be some broken—I have had a surveyor, and he says the repair ing of the house, to bring it into any thing like the same condition it was before, would cost me 40 l .

JURY . Q. Were the sashes taken away of the same quality as this A. Yes; there were nine pair and a half of these sashes put in at the same time.

HENRY SMART . I am son of Mrs. Ann Smart. I made inquiries of Mr. Grobecker of the prisoner's character—he gave him a good charac ter—I saw the premises in about three weeks after the prisoner entered them—no dilapidation had commenced—I have not seen the premises since he left them—the windows were good, excepting the lead-lights, where there were a good many of the smaller panes broken—there were cupboards and doors—the doors were generally very good.

DAVID FORT . I live in Booth-street, Brick-lane, and am a rent collector, I know the two houses the prisoner occupied—I always heard they were Mrs. Smart's—I saw them before Tovee entered them—I was going to take them myself—I looked all over them—the doors were gene rally very good all through the house—the windows nearly new—some lead lights were broken—the white-washing was wanted—I was in Booth-street abont February or March, after the prisoner had taken possession—I saw him holding a sash in his hand, while a boy was cutting the sash lines—It was removed into the room altogether—about six or seven weeks ago, I saw these two houses—that was just before I made a levy on him for rent, on the 11th of August—I then went over both houses—the large house was complete shell—the doors had been torn off by crow-bars—the prisoner was in possession then—half the kitchen staires were taken away—the smaller house was in the same state, except that part occupied by two tenants, who lived up staires—the lower part was gutted in the same way, but not so bad as the large one—the back lights were all out on the one-pair of stairs—I looked for Mr. Tovee afterwards—I found him at three o'clock in the morning, concealed in a gutter, at the back of his house—I had been looked for him for ten days.

Prisoner. Q. Did you see me touch anything? A. I saw you hold the sash in your hand.

SAMUEL PRESTAGE . I live in Booth-street, nearly opposite the pri soner—I remember the prisoner living in the small house five or six months—I have seen him and his son Dick take out all the lead lights—they were about nine sheets, very good indeed—two or three weeks after that, I saw Mrs. Tovee and a lad—she had got hold of a sash—my attention was taken away for a minute, and then it was gone altogether—after that, they went to the house several times—Tovee was generally living in the smaller house—I have seen Mrs. Tovee bring out different thing at times—some appeared to be shelves of cupboards out of the large house—I saw her take them into the small house, which adjoined it, and lock up the large house—one morning, about seven weeks ago, I had occasions to get up between five and six o'clock—I heard a great noise—I looked through the window and saw Mrs. Tovee and a lead tearing down some boards from a cupboard—I then saw her go into her own house with some wood—she then came out again, dragging a large heavey door, like a yard door—I said, "Are you going to gut that house or pull it down?"—she said, "what is that you, the house is mine, I shall do as I like"—I

said "It is not yours: I wish I knew where the landlord is, I would tell him"—she went into her house, and came out again, and was very abusive.

W. N. Tovee. Q. Did you see me take anything down? A. No.

COURT . Q. Did you see the man at home? A. I had seen him go out early, but he might have come home without my seeing him.

GEORGE PRESTAGE . I am the son of the last witness—I know the two horses in Booth-street—I know the prisoners—I saw Mr. Tovee's son come out of the house with some windows on his head, and take them round the corner, and about the two months ago I saw Mrs. Tovee take some stairs out of the big house into her own, and then she got some doors out—I have heard the boy who carried the windows called Dick ; he is Tovee's son.

SARAH ALLFORD . I live at No. 2, Booth-street, I know the two houses that Tovee occupied—In April last we kept a horse in the yard of these houses—I saw the male prisoner with a little boy doing something to the lights—I did not see them take any away.

William Nicholas Tovee's Defence. I have been in the building trade twenty-five years—I have 5000 l . worth of buildings conducted by me—I have been robbed of four crates of glass, and had all manner of doors and things stolen—I never took anything out of the house—I have five sons out of eight, and one of them, I am sorry to say, is a very bad one—these things were all to pieces—I no more took them away than you did—I am afraid I was robbed of them unfortunately—here is the bill that I paid the man for repairing the chimney-pieces—I have had two master glaziers there about the repairing of the lead-lights.

(Robert Goddard, carman, and James Goddard, carman, gave the pri soner a good character.

W. N. TOVEE— GUILTY . Aged 52— Transported for seven Years

MARY TOVEE— NOT GUILTY .

2027. ANN FOWLER was indicted for stealing, on the 8th of Sep tember , 1 half-drown, and 2 shillings; the monies of William Lucas , from his person.

The prosecutor did not appear. NOT GUILTY .

2028. HENRY FREEMAN , alias Bartlett , and WILLIAM FREE MAN , were indicted for stealing, on the 9th of September , I ass, price 30 s ., the property of Henry Bird , the younger.

HENRY BIRD . I live at the Stepney-green. On the 8th of September, I turned out this ass on Stepney fair field, at half-past seven o'clock in the morning, and at twelve o'clock it was gone—I saw it at Smithfield on the tenth of september—the Policeman had got it.

WILLIAM JONES . I live at No. 1, Tyson-street. I am servant to Mr. Furlong—on Wednesday evening, the 9th of September, I met the two prisoners close against the Cock and Custle, Kingsland, riding on the ass—they called me, and asked if I would buy it—I asked what they would take for it—they said 15 s .—I told them to come my master—he asked them the lowest they would take—they said 10 s ., and it belonged to their father, who lived in cock-lane, Shoreditch—he sent for the policeman, who took them.

Henry Freeman. We gave a man 1 s . to ride about the lane—when we took it back we could not find the man, and went to sell it.

JESSE PAKES ( policeman-sergeant, No. 16. ) I received the ass—I took it to Smithfield, and found the prosecutor.

HENRY FREEMAN— GUILTY — . Aged 15.

WILLIAM FREEMAN— GUILTY .

Confined One Month , and Whipped.

2029. JANE OLIVER was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of July , 1 half-crown, 2 shillings, 1 sixpence, and 1 penny; the monies of Alex ander Deliper , her master.

ALEXANDER DELIPER . I live in Woburn-place. The prisoner was in my service four months since—I gave her, on the 15th of July, a half-crown, two shillings, and sevenpence, to pay Mr. Granger—I have since had a demand from Mr. Granger for it.

Prisoner. I never took any money for any bill in my life—I had not enough to pay the bills. Witness. I swear I gave it to her—she was in the daily habit of spending the petty cash, and putting it down in a book—that particular sum I gave her, 5 s . 1 d . to pay, but that was not in the book

JOHN GRANGER . I am a greengrocer. I sent the bill for 5 s . 1 d ., to the prosecutor—I never received it from any body—It is about two months since I sent the bill in.

Prisoner. They came in in April, before I went to live with the pro secutor. Witness. I have sent in two bills of the same amount.

GEORGE COLLIER . ( police-constable E 38.) I went to take the pri soner in George-street—nothing was said about this money.

The prisoner put in a written defence, stating that she had lost some money, which she received to pay bills, and having notice to quit, could not make it up.

NOT GUILTY .

2030. HENRY WELLAND , the younger, was indicted for feloniously forging, on the 23rd of June , a request for the delivery of goods.—2nd COUNT , for uttering, &c.

JOSEPH TUCKER . I live in Sun-street, Bishopsgate. The prisoner came to our warehouse on the 23rd of June, to look at some cloth—I showed him several pieces—he selected one, and desired me to cut six yards, which I did—he then chose some waistcoating—I made the bill out—he said his father would pay for them—I said, "We do not trust any one"—I merely knew his father from being a tenant of mine; but I said as I knew his father, if he wanted a cut of cloth I most have an order for it—he went away, and brought this order in a short time, and I let him have it—( read ) "Mr. Tucker, Please to let the bearer have the cloth, and waistcoat-piece, and I will call in a few days and pay you"—his father afterwards gave me the duplicate, and said he had sent him out of the country.

PHILIP WATSON . I received the duplicate from my master, Mr. Tucker, and went and took this cloth out of pledge.

HENRY WELLAND . I am the prisoner's father. This order is not my writing—I never gave it to my son, nor sent him for the cloth.

Prisoner's Defence. In June, I was sent to my uncle in the country, till this affair should be settled—I returned, and in a few days told me he had settled it—I do believe it is a conspiracy to send me away.

JOSEPH TUCKER . His father told me he would send him out of the country; and he told me he was gone, and that in the pocket of this clothes he had found this duplicate.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Transported for Seven Years .

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin .

2031. DAVID THOMPSON was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of Septemper , 1 watch, value 3 l .; and one watch ribbon, value 2 d .; the goods of John Fluckart , the same being in a certain vessel on the navigable river Thames.

JONH FLUCKART . I am master of the Gipsy, of Montrose—she was lying off Hermitage-stairs, Wapping, on Saturday last, the 19th of Sep tember—I was in Greenwich—I left the ship in charge of the mate, about eleven o'clock in the morning—my watch was hanging in the state-room—I came back at eight o'clock, and it was gone—I had seen the prisoner the day before on board the ship—he was acquainted with Spink, the mate.

JAMES SPINK . I knew the prisoner about four years—he was them shipmate with me—he was not with me on board that vessel, but he came to see me on Friday—I gave him one shilling and some beef and bread—he came again on Saturday; I gave him beef and bread again—I then went on shore with him, but before that I was called forward—I had seen the watch in the state-room while he was there—I did not go on board again till half-past six—I then missed the watch.

SOMERVILLE TELFER . I am pawnbroker; I live in Ratcliffe-high way. I took in this watch of the prisoner, on Saturday, the 19th of Sep tember—I am sure he is the person.

( Property produced and sworn to. )

Prisoner's Defence. I never was in the pawnbroker's shop in my life, and never had the watch in my hand.

GUILTY . Aged 39.— Confined Six Months .

2032. MICHAEL CUNNINGHAM was indicted for feloniously re ceiving of an evil-disposed person, on the 24th of August , 12 parts of a work, called the "British Cyclopædia," value 8 s .; the goods of William Smith and another, well-knowing them to have been stolen, &c., against the Statue.—2nd COUNT , calling it the property of Joseph Reeve .

MR. BALL conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES ANDREWS . I am a newsvender, and live in Sussex-street, Tottenham-court-road. The prisoner kept a book-stall—I have seen him in pickett-place, by St. Clements; and in Fisher's-alley, Blackfriars—on Sunday, the 22d of August, I was going for my newspapers, and met him—he asked if I would have any more numbers—I had bought some of the "Cyclopœdias" before of him—I said "Yes, "—he said I should have them the next morning—next morning he said he had not got them, but I should have them on Tuesday—I met him in Pickett-place, on the Tuesday, he went into a public-house and brought out twelve num bers, in a paper—It was No. 32 or 33—next morning I saw him; he said he had got another dozen—he asked if I would purchase them—I said I would—I had given him 6 s . for the twelve numbers before—they are pub lished at 1 s . each—I saw him again on Wednesday, and brought twelve numbers of him for 6 s ., for this month—on the 27th, I gave information to an officer, who is here—some months before I said to him, "Are you not afraid of dealing in these things?"—he said, "They are got by some young chaps, for the purpose of getting a few glasses of gin. "

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. What are you? A. A book seller—I have never bought any of these numbers from any one but the prisoner—they do not vary in price when they come out—some back numbers are sold at low prices—I know there are some called outside sheets—I

do not know that they are sold at a cheap rate—I bought these to find out the thief—I do not know that this is a copy of what has been published fifty times over, nor that it is called a booksellers' book.

THOMAS MOORE . I have been a constable. Andrews applied to me, and I went to Messrs. Smith and Orme, the booksellers—I went to the prisoner on the 29th, and on the 31st, I asked him if he dealt in the "Cyclopœdia" he said, "No"—I produced this number to him—he said he knew nothing at all about it; I told him I had got the person he had been kelling it to—he said he did not—I told him I knew better, for I had the party there who had bought them of him—he said, "Go, and find him"—I immediately sent for Andrews, who came up, and told him he had brought him into trouble about the book—the prisoner made no remark then, but in going to the station-house he said he said he would get him out of it, and him self out of it, but would not get another man into it.

Cross-examined. Q. Andrews was with you? A. Yes; I have been in the police—I resigned, on the 5th of July, because I had got something better to do—some money to recover, which had been owing me for nine months—It was 14 l . 10 s .

WILLIAM SMITH . I am in partnership with Mr. Orme—we live at Amen Corner—we publish the work in question at 1 s . a part—the selling price to the trade is 9 d .—at the beginning of July, in consequence of information that the prisoner was selling some at 8 d ., I went to him, and asked if he had any of these numbers of the "British Cyclopœdia"—he said he had one, which I bought of him for 8 d .—the selling price was 9 s ., but sometimes we sell them to hawkers at 8 s . 6 d . a dozen—I told the prisoner, from the appearance of it, I was convinced they were stolen—he said he bought them of a man who was in the habit of going past his stall, and had given other things for them—I said I was certain they were stolen, and would be glad if he would let me know if the same man brought him any more—this number for September is one of our publishing—Joseph Reeve is our binder—the backs come from one printer, the maps from another, and the covers from another—this number was published on Saturday, the 28th of August, at twelve o'clock—the wholesale price was 9 d . or 8 s . 6 d . a dozen to hawkers—we always have them ready a day or two before.

Cross-examined. Q. What will enable you to say this was not sold from your shop? A. This was brought to me before they came to my office—orders were given that none should be sold before that time.

JAMES ANDREWS re-examined. I bought twenty—four of these and sold the remainder.

JOSEPH REEVE, JUN . I am son of Mr. Reeve, binder to the prosecutor, and live in Water—lane. I carried out numbers for my father about six months ago—I am now out of work—I knew the prisoner, by passing him in Fisher's—court and seeing him by St. Clement's—I never sold him any books till within the last three months—on the Monday previous to his being taken I sold him one dozen at seven o'clock in the morning, and one dozen at two o'clock—he asked me if I could supply him six months ago—I told him no, till within the last three or four months—I then let him have two dozen in each month—I let him have two dozen in August at 4 s . a dozen—my father is binder to Orme and Smith—I took these numbers out of my father's shop—the prisoner told me he could get rid of from two to four and from four to twenty dozen, that lie had got a safe trade in Totton ham—court—road, where there were sure to be no spics on them—my father

keeps a book, in which the numbers are entered—I have made alterations in it.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you been a thief and a forger too? A. I cannot tell.

JESSE MILLINGTON . I am in the employ of Orme and Smith. Here are my signatures in this book to the numbers received from Mr. Reeves—this one has been altered—It is 4 now—I cannot see what it has been.

---- WOOD . I live at No. 12, Pickett-street, with Mr. Everett, he keeps a public-house. On Tuesday, the 24th of August, about eight o'clock in the evening, the prisoner brought to my house a parcel of No. 32 of the "British Cyclopœdia"—he fetched them away on the following morning.

NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2033. MARK NICHOLLS was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of August , 100 yards of silver-gilt lace, value 100 l ., the goods and chattels of our Lord the King —3rd COUNT , stating it to be the property of John Gleaves : and GEORGE SHADFORD for feloniously receiving the same, well knowing it to have been stolen,—other Counts varying the manner of laying the charge.

MESSRS. BODKIN and HEATON conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN GLEAVES . I am store—keeper at Buckingham Palace. The pri soner Nicholls was employed there as a labourer, and I placed confidence in him—there was a box containing lace in one of the top rooms—Nicholls had access to it—It was old silver-gilt lace, and of a particular pattern—the box was nailed and screwed—I did not see the lace put in, but I opened the box, I think in November last; I saw the lace safe then—then box was full—It was again fastened down in the same manner, with screws and nails—I opened it again on the day after the prisoners were taken—I believe it was the 1st of September—I found it had been opened, as the screws were so very slack and the nails had been forced—I opened it in the presence of a witness, and a quantity of the lace was missing—I cut a piece of the lace off, and gave it to the officer—It was His Majesty's property.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. How much was in it when it was fastened down? A. I cannot tell—when I opened it last it was about half full—It was full when I opened it in November, to see if there was any thing in it belonging to the Throne, which had been sent to the temporary House of Lords—there were several other boxes in that room, which contained painted glass—only this one contained lace—I do not know that any one had access to that room but in my presence or Nicholls'—the key of the room was kept in my room, but the prisoner has been sent there frequently—I do not know but that other persons may have gone with him—a great many persons were employed at the Palace—I live in the Palace, and keep the keys in the office, where I sleep on a sofa—there are no servants there, and no person sleeps there but me, and the clerk of the works and his family and his servant—the clerk of the works is obliged to come out of his door and go to another part to get into the place where this box was—I cannot tell how often I have been in the room since November, it was not often resorted to—there was a quantity of calico kept in it, I have sent the prisoner for some of that—I cannot swear that the key was never given to any one but the prisoner.

Re-examined. Q. Was that room kept for any thing but the slowing away of these things? A. No—I cannot tell how often I have

given the prisoner the key since November—I do not recollect giving it to anyone else—I opened the box in November, and saw it fastened down again—this was old lace, which came from Carlton Palace—I went to it again in September, and found the serews and nails had been interfered with, and about half the lace gone.

COURT . Q. Who screwed it down again in November? A. Wilson, in the presence of a person now in Court, named Webster.

THOMAS TARRANT . I am in the employ of Mr. Smart, a refiner, in Princes-street. I do all the-work in the back shop, where lace is burned—I remember the prisoner Shadford coming to my master's on the 8th of June—he brought a quantity of silver-gift gimp lace, which had been used—I burnt it for him—It came to rather better than 2 l .—I did not make any inquiry of him them—he came again the same afternoon, and brought some more lace, unburned—I asked him where it came from—he said it came off some coats; that he was a tailor by trade, and he had taken it in exchange—I told him I never saw such lace come off coats—he said that was very likely, as they were foreign—he told me some name which I do not recollect, and said his address was No. 55, St. Martin's-lane—I burnt that lace, and he went into the shop and received 2 l . some odd silver for that—he then continued to come to our place once or twice in a fortnight, and brought burnt lace, which appeared to me the same as the first he brought, as far as I could judge, but the burning would a little alter its appearance—a person would lose by burning the lace himself, as he does not understand it—on the 22nd of August he brought two parcels of lace, which had been burnt—I observed to him that the lace had not been properly cleaned, and he gave it me to clean for him—I said, "This is some of the same sort of lace I have done for you before?"—he said, "Yes, it is; I had it from the same man, and the same place"—we bought that lace of him; it came to 4 l . 3 s . 10 d .—he said he had a quantity more at home, and I said he had better bring it, and let me burn it, as he would receive more for it, as he must lose by doing it himself—he came again that day week the 29th, and brought a small piece of lace, which came to 2 s . 8 d —It was about seven o'clock in the evening, and he asked me if it was too late to burn it—Mr. Smart was then in the way—the prisoner came again on the 31st about eleven o'clock—he asked me if I wanted a Job—I asked him if he had any thing to burn—he said, he had—I told him he must wait a few minutes till I made another fire, as I had a pot of gold on the fire—Mr. Smart then came into the shop—when I told the prisoner I was ready—he put out this piece of lace—Mr. Smart then told him that before he burnt that lace he must se the coats it cam off from—the pri soner said, "Oh, no it did not come off coats, it came off bed furniture"—that he bought it, and gave 3 l . for it, but he did not know the man he bought it of—I told him it was no use, he must know him—as he said he bought it all from one man, he must know him—he then said he would tell the truth, that he had exchanged some clothes for it—that exchange was no robbery, and therefore it was no use to make a bother about it—I asked him if he could not find the man, and said if he could not he must stand in that man's shoes—he then said he could not find him, as he might be a hun dred miles off—he then said he thought he could find him if any body would go with him—by Mr. Smart's direction I fetched the policeman, but previ ous to that the prisoner was asked his name and address—he did not state his name, but said he lived at No. 4, Catherine-street, Pimlico—when I

came back with the officer, I found the prisoner just inside the door, and Mr. Smart had him by the collar—he was then given in charge of the officer, to go in search of the man, whom he said he could find—he has received about 26 l ., to my knowledge, for the lace he brought at different times.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Had you ever seen him before he first came to your shop? A. Not to my knowledge—I did not make any inquiries of him then—we are in the habit of buying lace, and burning it at all hours of the day—my master might know him, but I did not—my mas ter is not here—he was always present in the front shop when the prisoner came—he had to come through the front shop to come to me, and my mas ter had an opportunity of seeing him each time before I did—my master is not here, because it was not the Magistrate's desire that he should attend—he sends me because he cannot leave his own business—I knew my mas ter could not leave his business.

Q. Upon your solemn oath, do you know no passage in your master's life that would render it very imprudent for him to appear here as a wit ness? A. I have heard of it, and I believe you defended him—he has been here as a witness since then—I allude to the time when some strips of lace were sold at his house—he was convicted, and sentenced to pay a shilling—he was to have twelve months, I believe, but he did not stay his time out—I heard from his own lips that he was about to be fined a shilling, and Mr. Alley and you spoke to the Judge, that he might have a heavier men tence—Nothing makes me think it would be imprudent for him to be here; it might be unpleasant—he was taken up again, and I was sent for to Marl borough-street—he had the luck to get off—I do not think he has any rea son for not coming here to corroborate me—I was apprentice to a wheel wright and coach-maker in the country—since then I have been a grocer—I was not in any service till I went as a shop man to a grocer—I then went into business, I lost my money, and then went into the police force—I never was in the army—I did not know the late Duke of York—I resigned my situation in the police, they will have me back at any time—It was while I was in the police that I knew Mr. Smart, because I apprehended two men who sold a gold chain in his shop—that was the only way that I knew him, except by seeing him at Marlborough-street, when he was there respecting some property stolen at the fire in Oxford-street—It was about two years after that that I entered his service—I left the police in the morning, and he sent for me the same evening, as the man who hand lived with him had robbed him—he knew I was out of the police, because Hobbe told him—Mr. Smart was present when the prisoner said he would tell the truth—but he is not here, and he did not go to Marlborough-street office, if he had he must have shut up his shop—he has no other shopman—I am employed in the back shop.

Q. What did you know about burning lace? A. Nothing, till I was sent to a place in Jewin-street to learn to do it; any labouring man might do it—I told the prisoner he had better bring it to me to burn, because I wanted him to bring it in its original state, that I might see if it was the same—I suspected him from the first day; but after that he never brought any bit what he had burned, but not sufficiently—I was obliged to burn it again—I went to No. 55, St. Martin's-lane—I saw the name of "Day" on the door—there is no one here, that I know of, who ever saw the prisoner at my master's, though sometimes, when he was there, the shop was full of people—my master knows that I am come here to day.

Re-examined. Q. Your place is in the back shop, and no person comes

in there without passing through the shop where your master is? A. No—It is my master's place to ask questions, unless any thing strikes me—I went to No. 55, St. Martin's lane, and saw the name of" Day, Tailor" on the door—I did not recollect the name the prisoner gave—I had not then desired him to bring the lace unburnt—It was only the first day—I was not here when my master was taken on a charge of buying some lace—he was taken to Marlborough-street about a watch and chain—Pimlico is about a mile or a mile and a half from my master's.

COURT . Q. Why did not you detain him the second time when he brought the unburnt lace? A. It was not till the lace was nearly burnt that I suspected him—my master gives me 22 s . 6 d . a week, and what I get in the shop makes my wages 35 s . a week, or more—If I melt any thing I get sixpence or a shilling gives me—sometimes I have five or six hourse work, and may get half-a-crown given me—It is just what people like to give me—we make no charge for burning lace—Mr. Smart charges for melting, but not for burning—we are obliged to burn it for ourselves, if not for the persons who bring it—almost every man that comes gives me something—It is the custom with refiners—If I so any thing extra for Mr. Smart, he pays me extra for it.

RICHARD DUDLEY ( police-constable C 56.) On the 31st of August, the last witness came to me, and I went to Mr. Smart's shop—I found the prisoner Shadford inside the door, and attempted to rescue himself from him—I asked Mr. Smart what he was going to gives him in charge for—he said, "For selling some lace," but he wished me to go to No. 4 Catherine-street, Pimlico—I Went there with Shadford—he took us to a number of house—I suppose to twenty—he took us to a number of public-houses—the first was Tattersall's—I do not recollect the signs of the other—he wanted to go into his own house, No 4, Catherine-street—he said it he could go in and sit down, he could see the man pass by, of whom he had had the lace—I would not suffer him to go in—I brought him back, and in coming back, I thought I saw something heavy in one of his pockets—I examined it when at the station-house, and found this quantity of burnt stuff in his pocket, and this silver-gilt lace was in his hat—I afterwards went with another officer after the prisoner Nicholls—we took him as he was coming out of the palace gate—Mrs. Shadford—as I suppose, pointed him out to us—I had seen her at Catherine-street—I asked him if he knew that woman—he said he did; he had seen her at different times—I took him to the station-house—he there said that he stole lace at the Palace two or three different times, and had sold it to the prisoner shad ford, and the last quantity he sold he got 10 s . for on the Saturday.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Was not the house at No. 4, Catherine-street, where you saw the female, a lodging-house? A. I do not know; I saw her twice there—she came down stairs—when we were going with the prisoner, we had a pint of ale at Tattersall's—we were forced to drink—It was very hot, and we were on private-business—I did not know whether he was in charge or not—I had only part of a glass of ale—we had a pint between three of us—we are ordered not to drink when no duty, but the prisoner took us there—he went to find the man who he said sold him the lace—the prisoner called for the ale, and paid for it—he said the man he bought the lace of worked at the Palace—he told me so as we were going by the back of the Palace—I think I told the Magistrate so—there were four examinations, and at the last exa mination

the deposition was read over to me—I did not think there was any occasion to tell the Magistrate that we went to twenty house—I said we went to a great many—I did not see Mr. Smart till the Wednesday after wards, when I was on day-duty—he did not come to the Police office—I do not recollect that I have seen him since, till the day that Mr. Gleaves went, which I believe was Friday.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. Who was present besides the inspector and you, when Nicholls said this? A. Potter, the inspector, asked Nicholls questions but he told him not to answer any thing that would criminate himself but said if he would answer he would listen, but he did not want him to answer—he did not take a pen-and-ink to write it down—he first asked him if he knew any thing about the prisoner shad ford—he said he did know him—he said, "Have you been concerned in any thing about the Palace, or do you work there? "—he said he did, and that he stole the lace two or three times from the Palace—the inspector did not put any question to him about the lace—he told him he need not answer him any question—he did not tell him it would be the best way to tell the truth, to my knowledge—I will not sawer he did not—he did not tell the inspector that the lace was loose behind the box—he told the Magistrate so.

MR. BODKIN . Q. Is Potter here? A. Yes; I did not hear the in spector tell Nicholls he might as well tell the truth—I am sure I heard him say he need not answer any questions.

COURT . Q. Will you sawer he did not say it would be as well to tell the truth? A. I will not.

SAMUEL POTTER , ( police-constable C 35.) I went to Buckingham Pa lace with Dudley—I had before that been to Pimlico—we went first to a public-house, and then to several other house—we went to No. 4, Cathe rine-street; a woman came to the door and answered—she afterwards went with us to the Palace, and we took Nicholls into custody—we took him to the station-house; the inspector there put some questions to him; he told him not to say any thing unless he thought proper—he asked him if he had taken any lace from the Palace; Nicholls said he did on several occasions, and had sold it to Shadford—I was present when Shadford was searched—I was two pieces of silver-gilt lace found on him, and some dust in his pocket.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. How many different houses did you go into before you went to No. 4, Catherine-street? A. From four teen to eighteen; they were public-house—I believed the first was Tatter sall's tap; I was on duty—there is a regulation, respecting policemen not drinking when on duty—I did drink there that day—Shadford wa going to see for the other man—we went into public-house, but we did not drink any more; we were asked, but refused—I went from Marlbo rough-street Office to Mr. Smart's shop, to tell him to come, or send his servant—he sent his man, but I have never seen Mr. Smart since.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. What was the first question that was put to Nicholls when he came to the station-house? A. I can not exactly say—the inspector was standing there—he does not always take a note of what passes—on that occasion he make some sort of a me morandum, but he did not take it all; I saw him write.

FRANCIS WEBSTER . I am foreman to Mr. Downey, the upholsterer. I was present when some silver-gilt lace was put into was put into the box at Bucking ham Palace—It was quite full, and there was a difficulty in screwing down

the lid, from the great pressure against it—I have seen the same box since this robbery—there was about one hundred yards of lace gone; about two thirds of the quantity, as near as possible—here is a sample of lace from the bulk—these parcels found in Shadford's hat have, in my judg ment, been taken from the box; and this, produced from Mr. Smart's, is of the same description.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. As you say the box was so full that it pressed very much on the lid, of course that pressure would con tinue to draw open the serews and nails? A. Not the screws, when it was once pressed down and screwed—I saw it secured, and placed in an upper room with a variety of other boxes—there was nothing in the ap pearance of the outside to enable a person to know what was in one box more than the others—It is a common packing-case—there have been a vast, number of workman at the Palace—there was some calico and old curtains in that room, beside the boxes—they were kept as stores—I do not know whether persons were ever sent there—I was in the room once—I had the key from Mr. Gleaves—he was present, and Mr. Wilson, a cabinet maker, who was employed to repair some of the furniture.

Q. In your judgment, if a box was pressed upon by what was in it, would not unscrewing that in November weaken the worm of the screw? A. I should say not, because the screw would take an extra turn, and it was nailed down afterwards—I was present in November when the box was opened, to look for some tassels that had belonged to the old throne—they were not there—they were found in another room—I do not know any thing of Nicholls—I am only on the Palace occasionally—when I have passed through I have found all the doors secured—there were four hundred yards of lace in the box; upwards of one hundred yards were missing, and same other things.

MR. FITZPATRICK . I am clerk to the Magistrate of Marlborough-street—I acted as clerk there when the prisoners were examined—I took down what was stated by Nicholls—It was read over to him—he was not asked to sign it—he made no observation upon my reading it—It is not the practice of our office to have it signed by the prisoner unless it is a confession.

( Read. ) "The prisoner, Nicholls, says, 'I found the bundle of lace behind a box in the Palace—I concealed it in a dark cellar, and took it away at different times. "

Nicholls' Defence. Mr. Gleaves states that he used to let me have the key—I never was in the room without him, or some one with me—there were six or seven men at work in the room, and the door was open—Mr. Gleaves or Mr. Wilson were always there.

MR. GLEAVES . There were six or seven men occasionally at work is the presence of Nicholls—the door was open when they were in.

(Thomas Bailey, a statuary and mason, of Lisson-grove; Frederic Ropi, a sculptor, of Edgeware-road; John Stupp, a carman, of Lisson-grove; and Edward Allen, a builder, of Lisson-grove, gave the prisoner Nicholls a good character: and John Husband, a merchant, of Broad-street; Thomas Rumble; James Granville, a tailor, of James-street, Buckingham Gate; Benjamin Knight, of Gloucester-street, Queen's-square; Francis Turner; David Jamcson, of York-street, West minster; Henry Elphick, a publican, of Brewer-street; Thomas Clarksby, a tailor, of Cleveland-street; William Garland, of Catherine-street; George

Forest, of St. George's-row, Plmlico; John Clerk, a lamp-contractor, of Catherine-street; Henry Jones, a tailor, of Catherine-street; Reuben Jenkins, a painter and glazier; William Tyler, of Golden-square; and Henry Davis, a salesman, gave Shadford a good character.

NICHOLLS— GUILTY . Aged 28.

SHADFORD— GUILTY . Aged 36.

Recommended to mercy by the Jury — Transported for Seven Years .

OLD COURT . Saturday, September 26 th, 1835.

Third July, before Mr. Recorder.

2034. BENJAMIN GREEN was indicted for a misdemeanour.

SUSANNAH KING SANDERSON . I am the wife of William Piggot Sanderson, copper, of Hockley-street, Water-lane, Homerton. Almost the later end of December, the prisoner came to my house, and asked if my husband was at home—I said, "No"—he said he had received a note from him that morn ing, to order some stuff for a friend of his, of the name of Hill, to clean harness with; and as soon as he received the note he made off with it; and I was to give him 4 s . 3 d . for it—I said I had no meney, and knew nothing of it; and he must call again at five o'clock, and my husband would be at home—he said he could not; that he had brought it five miles—I told him to wait a minute, and I would get the money—I borrowed it, and gave him two half-crowns—he gave me a shilling, saying, he should see my husband on Saturday week, and he would give him the 3 d .—I am positive the prisoner is the man—the parcel contained black lead and soot, mixed, and was worth about 9 d .

WILLIAM PIGGOT SANDERSON . I did not send the prisoner for this—I never saw him before—he did not receive a note from me that morning—I did not instruct him to order some stuff to clean harness with for Mr. Hill, nor tell him to call for the 4 s . 3 d .

JOHN P---- ( police-constable N 138.) I received the prisoner in charge, and took him to the station-house—he had whiskers on then, which are since shaved off—I received a parcel from Mrs. Sanderson—It appeared to be black lead.

Prisoner. The lady is mistaken in my person.

MRS. SANDERSON . I am positive he is the man.

GUILTY . Aged 32.— Confined One Year .

(There were four other indictments against the prisoner.)

2035. JOHN KNIGHT was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of September , at St. Marylebone , 1 milk-pot, value 35 s .; 1 tea-pot, value 5 l .; 1 suger-basin, value 2 l . 15 s .; 1 coffee-pot, value 10 s .; 3 spoons, value 12 s .; and 1 pair of sugar-tongs, value 6 s .; the goods of Charlotte Frances Ackland , in her dwelling-house.

MARY ROE . I am the wife of John Roe, and live in Upper Harley-street, Cavendish-square, with Mrs. Charlotte Frances Ackland, widow. On the 19th of September, I was going from the kitchen to the servants'-hall, and saw the prisoner come out of the pantry—I asked what business he had there—he made no answer, but turned to run away; and in his hurry dropped the silver milk-pot on the steps—I pursued him up into the street, but saw no more of him, till he was brought back—I am quite sure he is the man—the house is in the parish of St. Marylebone.

JOHN ROE . I am butler to Mrs. Ackland. I saw the milk-pot picked

up in the area—the prisoner was brought back by Smith the footman—I am sure he is the person I saw in the area—I went into the pantry, and found this tea-pot and sugar-basin in my apron, packed up to be taken away—when the prisoner was brought back, I took hold of him, and three spoons and the sugar-tongs were produced from his pocket—they all belong to Mrs. Ackland, and are worth 10 l ., and more altogether—they are all silver but the coffee-pot—the prisoner kneeled down, begged for mercy, and said he would never do so again.

PHILIP WEBSTER . I am an officer. I took the prisoner in charge with the plate.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Transported for Life .

Before Mr. Justice Williams.

2036. ELIZABETH ALLEN was indicted for unlawfully, unjustly, &c. uttering and putting off to Thomas Drake , a counterfeit shilling, knowing it to be counterfeit; she having been previously convicted of uttering two counterfeit half-crowns.

MESSRS. ELLIS and DOANE conducted the Prosecution.

CALEB EDWARD POWELL . I am assistant solicitor of the Mint. I produce a copy of a record of the conviction of Elizabeth Allen, for uttering counterfeit coin, at the Middlesex October Sessions, 1834—I have ex amined it with the original record in the office of the Clerk of the Peace, and it is a true copy, ( read. )

JOHN FISHWICKE SOMMESALL . I am turnkey to the House of Correc tion, Cold-bath-fields. I remember the prisoner being convicted—she is the person described in the record—I was present at her trial.

MARGARET ANN DRAKE . I am the wife of Thomas Drake, who keeps the Fortune of War public-house, West Smithfield—on the 3rd of September, the prisoner came to the bar, and asked for a half-a-pint of ale and gave me a shilling. I perceived it to be a bad one, and handed it over to Mr. Drake, in the prisoner's presence, and told her it was a bad one—she said she had got two-pence to pay for the ale, which she did—the officer stood at the bar, and said. "My good woman, if you will let me look at it, perhaps it may not be a bad one"—he kept it and detained her.

Prisoner. She gave the shilling to another female and said, "Give that to my husband. "

Witness. It passed through nobody's hands but mine and Mr. Drake's—I am sure it is the some shilling as she gave me.

THOMAS DRAKE . I remember the prisoner being in my house—my wife was present—I received a shilling from her, and said to the prisoner, "This is a bad shilling, I shall not take it"—I threw it down on the counter—the prisoner herself took it up, and the officer, Wood, said di rectly, "Now, my good woman, let me look at it, perhaps it may not be a bad one"—he took it from her and retained possession of it—It did not pass through any hands beside, I am positive—the officer found it was bad, and took it away.

Prisoner. There was a female present, who took it into her hand, and gave it to a woman without a cap on, and she gave it into my hands, the officer took it from me, and the prosecutor said, "Give it to the young woman, I do not want to give her in charge. "

Witness. She has told a palpable falsehood—there was only my wife my daughter, and myself in the bar.

JOHN WOOD . I am watchman of Guildhall, and was constable at

Bartholomew-fair. I was at Mr. Drake's house and receive a shilling out of the prisoner's hands—the statement of the witness is true.

ELIZA ANDERSON . I searched the prisoner at the Compter on the day in question, and found on her four articles of toys, and some halfpence—there was 1 s . 10 d . in copper, but I did not count it myself—there was also six sixpences—that was all I found—I gave them to my husband, and saw him give t hem to Wood—they had not been out of my sight.

JOHN WOOD re-examined. I have returnede the coppers to the prisoner—they amounted to 1 s . 10 d ., and six silver sixpences; she has had them also—they were good—I gave them to her at different times, by the Magis trates order.

WILLIAM HUTCHINSON . I am a green-grocer, and live in Whitecross-street. On the 22nd of August, the prisoner came to my shop for a quarter of a pound of sugar and a small quantity of tea; it did not come to more than 3 d .—she tendered a bad shilling—I walked from the counter, to prevent her going out—told her it was bad, and detained her—she said she had got three good shillings in her pocket, but she never produced them—I gave her to Peak the officer, and handed him over the shilling, after scratching it with a nail.

MATTHEW PEAK . I am an officer. I was on duty, and went to Hut chinson's shop—I found the prisoner there, and took charge of her—I received one shilling, which I produce—I took the prisoner to the station-house—she gave the name of Eliza Brown—she was searched—there was a good shilling found on her—she was discharged by the Magistrate.

JOHN FIELD . I am inspector of coins for the Mint. I have examined both of these—these are both counterfeit shillings.

Prisoner's Defence. I really believe it is not the shilling I gave.

WILLIAM HUTCHINSON ( looking at it. ) That is the shilling she gave me, from the scratch on it—I am sure.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years .

Fifth Jury, before the Recorder

2037. GEORGE TILT and THOMAS CARNEY were indicted for stealing on the 8th of September , at St. Leonard's Shoreditch , 1 ewe, value 25 s ., the property of James John Bassett .—2nd COUNT , for killing with intent to steal the carcase.

JAMES JOHN BASSETT . I am a butcher, and Live at 191, Church-street, Shoreditch. I have a slaughter-house near Spencer-street, New-inn-yard, Shoreditch. On the 8th of September, in the evening I saw my servant lock up the slaughter-house—there were tow live ewes there—the next morning I went to the slaughter-house at half-past six o'clock, and missed one of the ewes—I found some fresh blood in the pound, and marks of blood on the gate—It was worth 25 s .—I know both the prisoners—I have employed them both at times; I merely gave them jobs for half an hour.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. Who locked up the sheep? A. William Strolger, my boy—I have no partner.

WILLIAM STROLGER . I am servant to Mr. Bassett. I was in the slaughter-house some days before the sheep was lost, and on the Friday the prisoners assisted my master's men in killing a bullock—this ewe was in the slaughter-house at that time—One Tuesday afternoon, the 8th of September, I was passing Carney's lodging, No. 4, Cock-lane, between three or four o'clock—I saw Carney at the window—he asked me if the

three sheep were killed—he called me soldier, which is a nick-name they gave me—I said there was only one killed—he asked me who killed it—I made him no answer, but walked off—I locked up the slaughter-house on Tuesday night, in my master's presence.

Cross-examined. Q. Why do they call you soldier ? A. It is a nick-name they call me in the street—Carney lodges three or four yards from my master's slaughter-house—he has lived there ever since I have known him, which is about three months—I left the slaughter-house at half-past eight; master was there when I left; we both came away together—nobody was left to take care of it at night—the prisoners are butchers by trade.

ROBERT STROLGER . I am son of Robert Strolger, and live at No, 14, New-inn-yard, Shoreditch, a wine-cooper I am brother of the last wit ness. On Tuesday night, the 8th Septemper, at ten minutes past eleven side, and Carney on the other, about forty yards from the slaughter-house—Tilt had a blue smock-frock, white stockings and shoes—he said, "Good night, good night, Bob. "

Cross-examined. Q. It is not unusual to see him in that dress? A. No—the yard is a thoroughfare—I had got home at half-past ten o'clock—I went out for an errand into Shoreditch, and saw them—I went in-doors directly—I was not fifty yards from home.

JAMES STRACEY ( police-constable H 832.) On Tuesday, the 8th of Sep temper, I saw the prisoner Tilt in High-street, Shoreditch, about half-past ten o'clock in the evening, with another butcher—they were dressed in butcher's clothes—I saw him again, at half-past eleven o'clock at the corner of the New-inn yard—he came across from the New-inn-yard to New inn-passage, with a sheep on his back, about six rods from the prosecutor's—It had the skin on, I believe, it was dead, but I cannot be sure—he said to me as he passed, "Halloo, matey, " and I said the same to him—I did not suppose it was stolen, as I knew him—he went up the New-inn passage, and turned into Cock-lane—I there lost sight of him—that leads to Carney's house—I went after him when he turned to the left, but he was not of sight, and I could not find him—he did not go towards the butcher's shops, which made me look after him, or I should not have thought there was any thing wrong—I lost sight of him within three or four doors of Carney's house.

Cross-examined. Q. You knew him before, and had talked to him? A. I had not talked to him—I do not think I should have spoken to him if he had not to me, not suspecting him at first—the sheep was on his back, not covered over—he was alone—the yard is a common thoroughfare—It is not unusual to carry sheep about late at night—If he had turned to the right, where the butchers'shops are, I should not have suspected him—I believe he belongs to very honest friends—I have known him about there for twelve months.

TIMOTHY RYAN ( police-constable G 153.) On Tuesday night, the 8th of Septemper, I was on duty in New-inn Yard, about eleven o'clock. I saw Tilt there, in company with another—I met him, standing about forty or fifty yards from Spencer-street—he was about three hundred yards from Mr. Bassett's, and fifty yards from the slaughter-house—I went down Spencer-street half an hour afterwards, and observed a wicket door open, which opened into Spencer-street—I got a light, examined the slaughter-house, and found one sheep in the pen—I apprehended Tilt the next day, and took him to the watch-house—I told him it was for stealing a sheep

from Mr. Bassett's, of Shoreditch—he said he was innocent of the charge, and he had not been in New-inn yard the previous night—he had his smock-frock on the wrong side outwards—the inspector noticed that, and we took it off and put it on the right way, and there was blood on the shoulder of the frock—the inspector asked him if he had carried any beast lately—he said he had not carried any on his shoulder for a fortnight.

Cross-examined. Q. What day did you take him? A. On the Wed nesday—he was coming towards the station-house at the time, and was about seventeen Yards from it—I did not ask where he was coming to—he did not say he was coming to surrender—I was standing at the station-house door at the time—I saw him five or six hundred Yards off in the City-road, and I said, "There is Tilt, "and I went down to meet him—he was coming up Featherstone-street towards me—I turned round and accompanied him to the station-house—Carney was not them in custody the inspector said he had better tell at once the whole truth, and then he answered the inspector's questions.

COURT Q. You apprehended Tilt; did he say anything to you be fore he got to the station-house? No; he was about fifty or sixty Yards from the station-house when I took him—the inspector put the questions to him first, and asked him what he did with the sheep he was carrying the previous night—I think that was the first thing he said—I do not know whether he said he had better tell the truth—It might pass—I cannot swear I did hear him—he made some remark—I have no recollection of his saying he had better tell the truth.

Q. You have said that he did? A. I think that was after he asked where the sheep was that he had carried the previous night.

MR. CLARKSON Q. You have told us this three ways: which is right? A. When taking the charge I think the inspector's first questions was, "Where is the sheep you were carrying the night previous"—he might have said "You had better tell the truth, "before he put any other question—that did pass; but whether before or after I cannot say—the prisoner did not tell me he had come to surrender, nor any such thing—I had inquired for him at his father's house before this, but did not find him there.

HENRY COLE ( police-constable G 126.) On Wednesday morning, the 9th about half-past four o'clock I was in Bateman's-row, Shoreditch—I saw Carney coming up Bateman's-row with a tray and a carcase of a sheep on his left shoulder, from what I could see—It was covered with a cloth, all but the scrag of the neck—the head was off—I apprehended him on the Sunday night following—I told him it was for carrying that sheep up Bateman's-row on Wednesday morning—he said he knew what I wanted him for, but re called his words, and said, "What do you want me for?"—I told him, and he said I was wrong; he was not there.

Q. He told you he knew what you wanted him for, and afterwards said you were wrong? A. Yes; I never said I thought it was a pig he was car rying—the moment before he came up the row, I met Ryan, and exchanged two or three words—as Carney came up, my brother officer got off the pave ment for him to pass, and said, "He has got a pig"—I said "No, it is a sheep; that is so-and-so, and he lives so-and-so"—I knew him before—I took him in Norfolk-gardens, five or six hundred yards from his own house, about half-past nine o'clock on Sunday—there was a cloth over the body of

the sheep—I cannot say whether the skin was on—I saw the neck, and am positive it was a sheep—I was not a foot from him.

Tilt's Defence. I was coming home from work, and heard Bassett wanted me—I went to the station-house to see what it was for.

Carney's Defence. I was not out of bed till half-past six o'clock in the morning—that man did not see me.

(William Ashton, a bottle merchant; John Dodd, a master drover; and William Spence, gave Tilt a good character: and Edward Hinton, of Queen-street, Seven Dials, deposed to that of Carney.)

TILT— GUILTY . Aged 19.

CARNEY— GUILTY . Aged 21.

Transported for Life .

Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor and Jury on account of their previous character.

2038. GEORGE SKELSEY was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of September , 9 quires of paper, value 9 s ., the goods of Thomas De La Rue and others, his masters.

THOMAS SKINNER . I am a printer, and live No. 4, Hackney-road. The prisoner repeatedly came to my office with paper for sale—on the 17th of September he came and offered nine quires of pink foolscap—I said I was not a buyer, and did not want it—he said, "Take and look at it"—I examined it, and found it was nine quires—I took away one sheet, and returned the rest to him—he asked either three or four shillings for the nine quires—I knew it could not be made for that, and declined purchasing—he then said, "Will you give two shillings?"—I said, "No"—he said, "Well, it is yours; give me one shilling"—I said I would have nothing to do with it—he walked away saying, "I may have something to suit you another time. "

Prisoner. Q. You have sworn it was nine quires: did you see more than one sheet? A. I had it in my hand and counted it—there were eighteen half-quires—It was about eight o'clock in the evening—I counted the half-quires, not the sheets.

WILLIAM PETER HENRY HAWKINS . I am journeyman to Mr. Skinner, and live in White Lion-street, Norton Falgate. I was in the office when the prisoner came into the passage, and asked for Mr. Skinner, who answered him; but what he said I could not say, as I was not it the room—Mr. Skinner came to the door, and the prisoner unfolded some paper out of his apron—he stood in the passage—Mr. Skinner took the paper into another room—looked at it, and then came out—the prisoner asked three shillings, then two shillings, and then one shilling—Mr. Skinner said he would have nothing to do with it—I saw the prisoner take it away—there appeared about half a ream—he was there five or ten minutes.

Prisoner. Q. Did not you say before the Magistrate that you met me coming out at the door? A. No; my deposition will prove that.

THOMAS DE LA RUE . I am a fancy stationer, and live in Bunhill-row. I have two partners—the prisoner was in our employ about eighteen months, till I gave him in charge last Thursday—he was employed in mill ing or glazing paper—I have examined the sheet of paper produced—It is my manufacture, and belonged to a parcel which he had to mill, a week or ten days previously—there is a pecularity in that lot of paper, which enables me to say decidedly it belonged to that quantity—we buy it white, and colour it—I cannot tell whether I miss any—I am certain it belongs to that lot—It is difficult to find paper which will take a pink colour, and it would

be ten chances to one if you made the same colour exactly—I have com pared it with the remainder of the lot—It is used by apothecaries, and worth one shilling a quire, the wholesale price—It cost sixteen shillings a ream.

Prisoner. I had three reams of paper to mill three different colours—last Wednesday week his son counted it up; and if I had taken nine quires, he must have missed it—he tied it in brown paper, and took it into the warehouse—I took two or three damaged sheets; it is no use telling a story about it.

FRANCIS BROWN ( police-constable G 10.) I took the prisoner at Mr. De la Rue's last Thursday—I told him what for—he said he acknowledged taking some paper off some cards—I asked what he did it for—he said he was sick and tired of life, and hoped they would send him out of the country.

Prisoner. I said I took five sheets, and that I was tired of life—when a man is accused of what he is innocent of, it is enough to make him say any thing—I worked for Mr. Heath, of the City, twenty-one years.

MR. DE LA RUE . He was an excellent workman, but has taken to drinking very hard, and neglected his family.

GUILTY . Aged 41.— Recommended to mercy by the Prosecutor.

Confined Two Months .

2039. HENRY GEORGE was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of September , 1 dead duck, value 3 s ., the goods of Francis Wragg .

GEORGE MILWOOD . I live in Hamilton-place, Battle-bridge. On the 25th of September, about twelve o'clock, I saw the prisoner take a dead duck from the show-board outside Mr. Wragg's shop, in Lamb's-conduit-street—he ran down Long-yard—I gave information on another occasion, and he was taken.

Prisoner. Q. What day did I take it? A. On the 9th of September—I saw him take two, and told Mr. Wragg, and he was taken—It was about twelve o'clock.

JOHN BELLETT . I am in the service of Mr. Francis Wragg, of Lamb's conduit-street. Milwood gave me information, yesterday, that a boy had taken a duck—I ran out, and caught the prisoner, in Milman-street, with it in his apron—he had taken it off the show-board.

GUILTY . Aged 15.— Confined Ten Days , and Whipped.

2040. MARY WRIGHT was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of Sep tember , 1 cruet and top, value 6 s ., and 1 spoon, value 2 s .; the goods of Anslem Shears .

ANSLEM SHEARS . I am a silk-mercer, and live in Albany-street. The prisoner was employed to char at my house—she and another woman got drunk one day—I have since found a glass cruet, a silver top, and a spoon, which I had missed.

EDWARD COE ( police-constable S 91.) I took the prisoner in charge at her house, in Diana-place, New-road—I took her to the station-house, and found three duplicates on her—I said I should search her house, and re turned with her, at her own proposal—she took a bag from a basket in the back room, and gave me the cruet from it, and said she believed that was it—I found sixty-six duplicates in the bag.

Prisoner. I had no opportunity of explaining myself at the station-house—they asked if I knew where the cruet was—I said I did, and, if

he would go with me, I would give it him—a woman had been assisting me at the prosecutor's—I found it in her pail; and in order that no dis turbance might take place, I took and pawned it, because I would not have it on my premises—I redeemed it in the morning, and intended to take it to Mr. Shears's; but I had no opportunity of telling him about it.

WILLIAM LANCE . I am a pawnbroker. The prisoner pawned this cruet on the 24th of September, and came as soon as the door was open in the morning to redeem it—she has been in the habit of being our first cus tomer almost every morning, bringing things and taking them out.

EDWARD COE re-examined. I had taken a person named Rosewell on the 24th, by the prosecutor's desire—she lived next door, and the prisoner knew I was searching the house.

MR. SHEARS . The other woman was sent away for being drunk, on the 21st—the prisoner would not go—the cruet was safe about seven o'clock that day—the prisoner came next day to apologize for her conduct—I told her I missed these things—she said she knew nothing about them—she brought the woman to my house on Wednesday—I accused them both of taking the snuffers and the cruet—I had another char-woman there then—the prisoner made some unpleasant observation—I then said I was de termined to have my property; if it was restored, I should say nothing basket which they had left—I would not allow the prisoner to go down, but Rosewell did—the cruet had been taken from my shop, and was missed on the 21st—the prisoner had access to where it was.

Prisoner's Defence. This woman had left her pail on the Wednesday, and on Thursday I found the cruet in it, and pawned it, as I said before—I went to the house in the evening, but both him and his wife were out.

MR. SHEARS . We were both out on the 24th.

GUILTY . Aged 46.— Confined One Month .

2041. HENRY WELLAND , JUN . was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of September , 1 gun, value 8 l .; and 1 pair of pistols, value 30 s .; the goods of Benjamin Sturman .

BENJAMIN STURMAN . I am a gun-maker, and live in Kingsland-road. On the 19th of September the prisoner came and said he had come from his father for a second-hand single gun, which was for his uncle—I said, I had no single gun, but a double one—he said, it would make no difference, as his uncle had plenty of money; and as I was cleaning it, he said, "I want a pair of pistols, for an officer of the Osborne-street Court. whose life has been threatened"—I showed him a pair of the case—he said they were just the thing, and he should see the officer on Sunday—I had cleaned the gun—he requested me to make a memorandum of the gun—I said, "In what name?" he said his father's name—the price was 8 l —I said, "What name shall I put the pistols in? he said, "The same"—and after doing so, he took the pistols off the counter, and I gave him the gun—he said he would return in two hours, and bring back the gun or the money—I believed all he said—he said he would go home, and that his father and uncle were waiting at Redford-place—I trusted him on his father's account, supposing the father could pay me—I did not sti pulate that it should be returned in two hours—he proposed it himself—If he had said three or four hours, I should have been satisfied—the mo ney for the pistols was to have been brought on Monday—If the things were not approved of, I expected they would be sent back—after the pro perty

was gone, I felt that it was not exactly correct—I went to Mr. Wal ker, a Commissioner of the Osborne-street Court, to know if the prisoner's father held the situation he used to do—I knew his father before—I parted with it with a full belief that it was for his father, and on his credit—If the father had approved of it, I expected he would have it.

Q. If it had been a true transaction, and the father had kept it, and not paid for it for a week or so, should you have taken any steps? A. I should have called on the father, to know if he kept it—If the father had asked for three months' credit, I should have gladly given it him—I did not consider it sold till I was informed whether it was kept or not—I con sidered the prisoner merely a porter, bringing a message from his father—I did not debit the father in my book, but made a memorandum of it, according to his wish—I should not have let the prisoner have it on his own account—I had not the least suspicion at the time, as the father bore the best of characters—I meant to part with the property at the entire option of the father.

Prisoner. Q. What was said when you were making the memorandum about my having a commission, when I got a customer? A. Nothing whatever: I declare I did not say I would give him a commission to find a customer—I did not trust him with them to sell—he said he himself was an officer of the Court, that his father was Coming, into property in three days, and at the death of his uncle he was coming into a great deal of property, and if he was like some young men, he should be very proud indeed—this was after it was settled—when he went away, he said he was going to his father's house, where his uncle and father were waiting.

HENRY WELLAND . The prisoner is my son. I live in Bedford-place, New North-road, and am beadle of the Court of Requests for the Tower Hamlets—I never authorized him to apply to the prosecutor for a gun, or for a brace of pistols—I know nothing of them—he never told me of it.

WILLIAM JOHN BIRD . I am pawnbroker, and live in the Minories. On the 19th of September, at half-past twelve o'clock, the prisoner pawned this gun for thirty-five shillings.

GEORGE HARRISON ( police-constable K 64.) I apprehended the pri soner at Mr. Kilday's, a pawnbroker, in Hackney-road—these pistols were on the counter—he said they were his brother's, who had authorized him to pawn them—I found the duplicate of the gun on him.

Prisoner's Defence. I told Mr. Sturman I wanted the gun for a friend of mine. I did not say it was for my uncle; nor mention my father's name, being aware if I did, I should be furnished. I was promised 10 s . 6 d . commission for selling the gun, and 5 s ., for the pistols; but was not to charge my friend more than 30 s .; because if he called at the shop afterwards, he might think it too much. There happened to be another case at Worship-street, which they could not make otherwise than a debt of; my opinion is, he finds there is no means of getting a verdict in his favour, nut by swearing falsely, and I assure you he has done so; when the bill was made out, he said, "What name shall I put it in?" I said "You know my name, and make it the same for the pistols;" here is the bill.

B. STURMAN . This is the bill I made out.

COURT . Q. According to this, here is an absolute sale? A. Yes, to his father—I suppose the father to have kept it on this bill.

NOT GUILTY .

NEW COURT .— Saturday, September 26, 1835.

First Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2042. ELIZA RANGE was indicted for stealing, on the 20th of September , 3 handkerchiefs, the goods of Israel Alexander , her master; to which indictment she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 23.— Confined One Month .

2043. WILLIAM HODGES was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of September , 1 shilling, and one sixpence; the monies of Charles Jones Burden , his master.

CHARLES JONES BURDEN . I live in White-cross-street, St. Luke's; the prisoner was in my service. I put some money into my till and marked it with my private initial—I got a policeman on Tuesday, the 22nd—I desired to search the prisoner's box with the policeman—he refused to give me the key of it, but opened the box himself—we found 21 s . 6 d ., in silver in it—one shilling and one sixpence had my private initials, and the shilling had a mark beside.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. When did you mark your money, and how much? A. On the 16th of September, 20 s ., in shil lings and sixpences—I have marked perhaps 10 l . since the prisoner was in my service—he had been in my service five weeks—I put the marked money into the till and on the sideboard—I did not distribute the marked money among customers—I do not know whether the servant did.

NOT GUILTY .

2044. THOMAS PETRE was indicted for stealing, on the 27th of May , I cruet-frame, value 10 l .; and 8 cruets, value 2 l .; the goods of Emanuel Emanuel , in his dwelling-house.

EMANUEL EMANUEL . I live in Great Coram-street. My family left town on the 27th of May—the house was put into the care of the pri soner's father and mother—the prisoner had formerly been employed as a porter by me—I had a cruet-frame, before the 27th of May—the value of it was 12 l —10 l ., the frame, and 2 l . the glasses—I had eight cruets, worth 40 s .,—my house is in the parish of St. George, Bloomsbury—I missed the cruets and stand about a fortnight ago, from a plate-chest at the top of the house.

ARTHUR JOHN NORTH . I produce these four cruets; they were pledged with me by Ann sneed, on the 28th of May.

ANN SNEED . I pledged these—the prisoner brought them to me on the 27th of May, and sent me to pledge them on the 28th.

EMANUEL EMANUEL . These are my cruets—they were in the same box that the frame was in—the box was locked, and when I came home it was still locked—I have not found the frame.

GEORGE COLLIER ( police-constable E 38.) I produce a duplicate which I found at Mrs. Dibbins', Kentish-town—Ann Sneed left it there—It is for four cruets, pawned for 4 s ., on the 28th of May.

GUILTY of stealing the cruets only. Aged 22. — Transported for Seven Years .

Before Mr. Recorder.

2045. ELIZABETH GEE was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of September , 1 pair of trowsers, value 5 s ., the goods of Stephen Parsons .

STEPHEN PARSONS . I live in Duke-street, Bloomsbury, and am an organ-builder. The prisoner lodged in my house some weeks—I missed a pair of trowsers from the back parlour on Monday, the 7th of September.

WILLIAM CRUSH . I belong to the firm of Bromley and Crush, pawn brokers, in Museum-street. I produce an pair of browsers, pawned by the prisoner on Monday, September 7th, for 1 s .

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Had you known her before? A. No—my apprentice was in the shop—my attention was directed to this the same day as the pawning took place—she was dressed in a shawl, as she is now, and a bonnet—my lad took the trowsers and came to me to value them—I believe she asked half-a-crown—I know it was more than 1 s .—It was to my apprentice she spoke, but I was opposite to her.

JACOB MILLER ( police-constable E 3.) On the afternoon of the 8th of September, the prisoner was brought to the station-house and detained there—I found nothing on her.

Prisoner. I went out at a quarter past eight o'clock with my husband—the prosecutor was coming in at the back-door—I never was in the house that day, or that night—on the next day I returned home—as I was coming out of the door, Mr. Parsons gave me into custody—at the station-house he said, "I have lost a pair of trowsers"—I said, "I know nothing about them; you have more lodgers, why did you suspect me?"—he said, "Will you go to the pawnbroker's?"—I said, "Yes"—Mr. Parsons said to him, "Do you think this is the woman that pledged the trowsers?"—he made a pause—then said very deliberately, "I think it is"—Mr. Parsons said, "Then you will be here by-and-by"—on that Monday I was nicely dressed, and was out with my child in Barbican the chief of the day.

WILLIAM CRUSH re-examined. They were pawned between two and three o'clock in the afternoon—I did not take time to give an answer—I said, "That is the person that brought the trowsers"—she had a bonnet and shawl—my boxes are like-other pawnbroker's boxes, so that we can see the person—I cannot say whether her bonnet was silk or straw, nor whether it was that coloured shawl—she came with the prosecutor after wards to my shop.

MARGARET HAYES . I am the prisoner's mother, and live in Earl's-passage, Long-acre. On the 7th of September, I saw her, in the after noon and in the morning—I saw her first at breakfast-time, at nine o'clock—she was with me in the afternoon—It might be between four and five o'clock—she staid two or three hours.

NOT GUILTY .

2046. JOHN WEIGHT was indicted for stealing, in the 29th of August , 1 pair of gloves, value 3 s .; 1 watch-guard, value 1 s .; 6 d .; 1 shirt-front, value 18 d .; the goods of Edward Philip Harding , his master.

EDWARD PHILIP HARDING . I am a hosier. On the 29th of August, I was in my back-parlour, adjoining my shop—about eleven o'clock at night, I saw the prisoner in a back part of the shop, trying on a pair of my best 3 s . 6 d . gloves—after I had my supper, which was not more than five or seven minutes, I went into the shop—he seemed confused—I said, "John, have you sold any gloves?—he said, "Yes, he had"—I said, when I had locked up the shop, John, have you had any gloves out of the shop for you own use?"—he said, "No, I have not"—: Are you quite sure?"—he said, "Yes"—I had six or eight months before cautioned him against taking any thing out of the shop—he said he had the liberty of

taking any thing from his last place—I said if he did so with me, he had lost his situation—on the Sunday morning, I found a pair in his coat-pocket, which excited some suspicion; and on that evening, I had the officer ready when he came home—he came in without any gloves on, which was con trary to his usual rule—the officer came in immediately after him—he said, "Jhon, I want to see what gloves you have"—the first thing he lock out of his pocket were these gloves, which are mine—he was searched, and on him was found a watch-guard, broken in two or three pieces, which he acknowledged he had taken on the Friday week previous, and broken it, by playing with the servant-girl, which he had no business to do—It is like mine—In his box was found this shirt-front, which he said he purchased of me three or four weeks ago, which he never did—It has not been worn above once, as it is merely tumbled—the mark is not washed out—on the Monday he went before the Magistrate, and was discharged.

COURT . Q. How do you know these gloves? A. There was a pair missing, and he said he had taken them out of my shop, but meant to have paid for them the next day—I had no quarrel with him—I owned him wages for about six or seven weeks—he had 20 l . a year—he had been out and spent 8 s . that day.

THOMAS SEAL ( Police-constable G 16.) I apprehended the prisoner as the 30th of August—I said, "Mr. Harding has given you in charge on sus picion of stealing some gloves"—I went stairs, and found this shirt-front; and in going to station-house, he said, "I don't care about any thing but the gloves—them I took, but I meant to pay for them on the Monday or the morrow. "

Prisoner. I had the front, of Mr. Harding four or five weeks before—I paid him 1 s . for it—the watch-guard was broken by a young man that was with me, while Mr. Harding was out of town—while he was playing with the servant; I put it in my pocket, to get it mended, if the man came, but he did not—the gloves I took, but I meant to pay for them—I took a pair of gloves which I have now in my pocket, and he put them down at 3 d . profit, but I thought I would save that, as it is always a rule to have things at cost price,

HENRY WEIGHT . The prisoner is my son. I called on Mr. Harding for his things—he said he was quite willing to give them up: and as for the shirt-front, he could not say whether it had been paid for or not: and in regard to character, he would not make it worse than he could help, but if they asked whether he was honest, he-could not say that he was—he had been to Worship-street, but was discharged, and the prosecutor went last night, and got a warrant, and brought him here—there was 2 l . 12 s . wages coming to him, and he summoned him for it; that has made him more spiteful against him.

E. P. HARDING re-examined. Q. Did you say to the last witness, that you were not certain, and could not tell whether the prisoner had bought the front of you? A. Never—he called on me one evening when I had another person with me, and smoothed me down, and wanted me to perjure myself by giving him a character for honesty; my answer was, "How can I give your son a character for honesty, when he has robbed me?"—I said, "How could I forget so simple a circumstance as his paying me for the shirt-front, if it had occurred but two or three weeks ago?"—the prisoner did summon me for the wages due to him, but I said, as soon as I came from the office, "I shall not let the case rest here—I shall have justice done me, "which I con sider I have not now.

NOT GUILTY .

2047. JAMES SMITH was indicted for embezzlement.

WILLIAM CUFF BATSTONE . I am a cheesemonger, and live in High-street, Camden-down. The prisoner was my errand boy for six months—he behave pretty well—I sent him, on the 9th of September, with a bill of 17 s . 3 d ., to Mrs. Brown, and goods to the amount of 4 s . 2 d .—brought me the money of the 17 s . 3 d ., but the articles that I sent he put on the back, and took the money for, which he did not bring to me—on the 14th, I sent him to the same person with goods to the amount of 13 s . 5 1/2 d ., which he did not account for; nor for 2 s . 8 d . on the 19th—I do not know the gentleman's name—It is at No. 2, Park-village.

HANNAH TOWNSEND . I am cook to Mr. Brown, No. 14, Grove-terrace.

On the 19th of September, I paid the prisoner 1 l . 1 s . 5 d .; the bill sent in was 17 s .; 3 d . there was some butter and eggs brought besides, which amounted to 4 s . 2 d . more—I paid him the whole amount—he put his name to this bill—( read )—he came again on the 14th, I paid him 13 s . 5 1/2 d . for his master—this is the bill; I saw him write the receipt for it.

MARIA HOWSE . I am in the service of Mr. Wingrove No. 2, Park villa, East. I paid the prisoner 2 s . 8 d . on account of my master, for Mr. Batstone—I returned the bill to him.

Cross-examined by MR. BASSET . Q. Do you mean you gave him the bill when you paid it? A. Yes; on the 19th of September.

COURT to W. C. BATSTONE . Q. I think you said that the prisoner account ed for 17 s . 3 d ., but not for an additional sum of 4 s . 2 d .? A. Yes—he never accounted for 13 s . 5 1/2 d . or 2 s . 8 d .

Cross-examined Q. how long did you say he had been with you? A. Six months—he has been in the service of Mr. Britten, a butcher—the was two or three years with him—I have two other person besides the prisoner in the shop—my wife attends to the business—when the prisoner received any money for bills, he ought to pay it to me, or the head young man, who is not her—my wife was not in town—I pay him three shil lings a week—he boarded with me, and lodged with his mother—he said the 4 s . 2 d . was not paid.

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Recommended to mercy by the prosecutor and Jury — Confined Three Months .

2048. JOHN BOYD was indicted for stealing, on the 5th Septem ber . 1 plane, value 8 s ., the goods of William Heiron ; and I saw, value 3 s . the goods of James Virtue .

WILLIAM HEIRON . I lodge in Russell-square, Bloomsbury. The house has been under repair the last five years. Mr. Henry Budd is the proprietor—on Monday, the 5th of September, I was in No. 22, Woburn-place—I met the prisoner coming out—he said, "Can you give me a job?"—I said, "You rascal, you do not want a job, you have been at one, "—I had seen this plough, which is mine, fall at his feet, about two yards before I got to him—I had been working at the house, and said I would search him—he then drew back to the bench, and drew this saw out, which was James Virtue's.

Prisoner. Q. Is it possible that I could conceal this plough under this coat? A. Yes did; your hands were down; you pulled this saw from the back of your coat, and laid it on my bench.

JAMES VIRTUE . I live at No. 2, Chapel-place, St. Pancras, and am a carpenter—I was working with this witness—we were going into the pas sage together and half-way through we saw the prisoner, in the middle of the

parlour door—Heiron went up to him, and saw the plane fall from him—I saw it at his feet—he asked for a job—Heiron said, "You rascal, you do not want a job, you have been at one"—he then drew this saw from under the left side of his coat.

THOMAS MIDDLETON ( police-constable E 60.) I was sent for to take the prisoner. I produce the saw and plough.

Prisoner. I was pulled about, and threatened to be thrown down a well, and expected to be served so every minute—I knew nothing of the tools—I was going past the place, and asked this man for a job—a few minutes before, I saw a boy go in, and walk up stairs—I went, and then were no workmen there—I was coming out, and met these two men—one swore I had the saw at my back, the other at my left side.

JURY to W. HEIRON . Q. Had you been at work with the plough on the floor? A. My young man had, and I saw him put it on the bench when he had done, using it—I said to him, "James, I want you to come and turn the stone, "but for that I might have been mistaken; but if I was not certain, I should not have spoken so positively.

JURY to J. VIRTUE . Q. How long after you followed the other witness into the house did he take the saw from him? A. Not five minutes, I can swear.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Transported for Seven Years .

2049. SANDY SUTHERLAND was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of August , 1 pocket-book, value 6 d .; 1 handkerchief, value 4 d .; 1 sovereign, 2 half-sovereigns, 9 shillings, and 1 sixpence; the goods and monies of David Crawley .

ELEANOR CRAWLEY . I am the wife of David Crawley, of Bainbridge-street, Saint Gilles's. On the 20th of August I put a sovereign, a half sovereign, nine shillings and sixpence in silver, a pocket-book, and a bunch of keys into a pocket, which I put under my pillow, or on a box along side my bed—I had two rings—I could swear to my wedding-ring—I took the prisoner on suspicion, between eight and nine o'clock the next morning, and he owned to it—I think it was on the 20th of last month—my husband took the pri soner—he did not live in the same house—he got in in the morning when my husband went out to work—It was about four days after when my hus band found him—I saw him a quarter of a mile from where I live—I said, "What have you done with my money?"—he said, "I have not taken it"—I said "I know you have bought a new suit of clothes—where did you get the money?"—he said, he was very sorry; he id not know it was my money, or he would not have taken it, and that he gave some to another boy—I asked where he had put my pocket—he said, "Come along, and I will show you"—he took me to a water-closet, about twenty doors from where I lodged, in the same street—he put his hand down before my husband and said, "I have placed the pocket there"—I got a stick, and my husband found the pocket, and put his hand into it, and found one ring—I asked him what had become of the other ring—he said, "Come along, and I will show you I planted it on the stairs"—he took us up to the landing, but we could not found it.

Prisoner. I did not take it at all, if I had I should not have shown where the rings were—she would not look for the other boy that took the money.

COURT . Q. Have you any reason to believe that another boy took the money? A. No; I have not—he said he gave part of the money to

the other boy—I do not knew his name—no other boy was taken but the boy he gave the handkerchief to pawn—they call him Dolly Dousie —I do not knew what means he had of getting into my room.

Prisoner. There are the two Cannifers and another boy live in her house. Witness. I have only not room—there are boys lodging in the house, but the prisoner does not—my door is looked of a night, but any body can get in after my husband is gone to work in the morning—I was in bed—I missed the things about seven or eight o'clock—I had been up half an hour—I had not been out—I turned round to pay the milk-woman, and could not find my pocket—I owed her three-pence—no one knew that I was in the habit of keeping my money in that manner.

DAVID CRAWLEY . I am the prosecutrix's husband. I took the prisoner in Carnaby market—I said I had been hunting for him three or four days—he said, "Not me"—I said, "Yes, I want you"—he stooped down, and said, "I don't know you"—"I know you, then"—said I, "What did you do with my money?"—he said, "Mr. Crawley, if I had known it was your money I should not have taken it"—"What have you done with it?" says I—"I bought a suid, of clothes in Monmouth-street, "said he, "and gave the money to another boy"—I asked his name, he said, "One Leary"—he said he put the pocket in Mr. Langley's privy—he took me to show it me—he said, "We had given the handkerchief to a boy, and was looking in the water-closet for the pocket, and could not find it there"—Mrs. Langley came in—I took up some boards, and found the pocket, and the gold ring in it—he then went with me to the stairs—I was looking for the other ring—he came and said, "It is not there now"—I went with him to the pawnbroker's—he said the handkerchief had been pawned, and he had sold the duplicate for three-halfpence—the handkerchief was gone—he said he gave the handkerchief and two-pence to another boy to pawn it.

Prisoner. I told him I had nothing at all to do with them—I showed him where the things were.

COURT . Q. Are you quite he said he had bought a suit of clothes? A. Yes.

WILLIAM PLUMB ( police-sergeant T 6.) On the 26th of September, the prisoner was given to me at Mr. Jones, the pawnbroker's in Holborn—Mr. Jones said the prosecutor had come about a handkerchief which had been pledged by the prisoner and another, but had been redeemed—the prisoner was crying, and said that it was not him that went into the room, but another boy, of the name of Leary—that he had half of the money, and bought a suit of clothes in Monmouth-street—he said Leary was in the habit of sleeping on the stairs, and that he, (the prisoner,) was in the passage at the time—that he did not see at what time it was taken—I appre hended Leary, and then the prisoner said it was another boy—Leary said he had pledged a handkerchief for the prisoner, who gave him two-pence to do it—(it was not said at what hour Leary went into the room,) and that he was in the passages, and they divided the money.

Prisoner. I only got 13 s . out the money, and he had the rest.

GUILTY . Aged 13.— Transported for Seven Years .

2050. CATHERINE EVANS was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September , 1 shawl, value 7 s . 6 d ., the goods of John Kelly .

RICHARD HOWARD . I am shopman to Mr. John Kelly, a pawnbroker, who lives in Hackney-road. The prisoner was in the habit of pledging there. In the afternoon of the 14th of September, she brought some ar ticles to pledge, and went as far as the door—she then returned, and took

a shawl from a string hanging against the wall—we pursued her—she saw us, and turned and said, what was the use of making so much fuss about it; if we would come to the corner of the street, she would give it us, and she took it for a joke—she had got about two hundred yards from our house.

WILLIAM ROBINS ( Police-constable K 30.) I received the prisoner, and produce the shawl.

Prisoner. I should not have taken it but for distress—I strip my chil dren every night to take their things to pledge, and in the morning I fetch them home again.

RICHARD HOWARD . She pledge some knives and forks that day—I do not think she had pawned children's things—she has a husband in work.

GUILTY . Aged 33— Recommended to mercy. Confined Three Months .

2051. HENRY PRIEST and MARTHA PRIEST were indicted for stealing, on the 5th of August , 10 shirts, value 10 l .; 6 caps, value 1 l . 7 s .; 2 dressing-gowns, value 1 l . 6 s .; 3 flannel waistcoats, value 15 s .; 2 pairs of drawers, value 8 s .; 12 pairs of stockings, value 30 s .; 10 pairs of trow sers, value 3 l . 10 s .; 2 coats, value 6 l .; 2 waistcoats, value 1 l .; 24 hand kerchiefs, value 3 l . 10 s .; 10 cravats, value 2 l .; 8 pairs of gloves, value 22 s .; 9 collars, value 2 l . 15 s .; 1 microscope, value 18 s .; 2 gowns, value 5 l . 10 s .; 3 towels, value 2 s . 6 d .; 3 petticoats, value 16 s .; 3 shifts, value 1 l . 5 s .; 2 night-gowns, value 10 s .; 3 shawls, value 3 l . 6 s .; 1 apron, value 5 s .; 1 cap, value 10 s .; 2 pairs of shoes, value 10 s .; 1 music-book, value 5 s .; 1 box, value 1 s .; and 24 printed letters, value 3 d .; the goods of Thomas Bell .

MESSRS. PHILLIPS and BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.

THOMAS BELL, ESQ . I am a surgeon and dentist, and live in new Broad-street, in the city. I was about to leave town with my family on the 6th of August; and on the 5th I sent some portmanteaus and a deal box, containing wearing apparel and other property, to my coach-house—I missed them the next morning.

Martha Priest. Q. When I came to speak to you about my youngest son, did I not say that he was innocent; but if my eldest son was guilty, I hoped he would come forward and answer? A. Yes, you did.

WILLIAM GUNSTONE . I am coachman to Dr, Bell. On the evening of the 5th August I took three portmanteaus and deal box to the coach-house in catherine-wheel-alley—the entrance is out of New-street, Bishop gate-street—I put some of them inside the carriage, and secured the others on it, ready to start in the morning—the coach-house is in yard which has four dwelling-houses in it—the prisoner, Martha Priest, lives in one of them—I went about ten minutes after five o'clock on the morning of the 6th of August—I found the coach-house door closed; but the lock was broken—It had been locked the night before—I saw marks of violence on the coach-house doors—the wood was dented in, as if by some heavy pres sure—the portmanteaus were in the yard, against Martha Priest's house, and were broken open—a part of the property was left, but a great deal was gone—It was daylight—I informed my master, and then called at the watch-house, and the officers went with me.

Martha Priest . You said before the Magistrate that they were not against the house, but against the wall? A. Yes, they were against the wall, which is about four feet long, between the gate of the yard and her house—It joins her house—the coach-house is at the further end of the yard.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. In order to have taken these empty portmanteaus to where you found them, must they have been taken past the other three houses? A. Yes; but not close to the houses—her house is nearest the yard gate, and the furthest from the coach-house.

ELIZA BROWN . I live at No. 9, Algar-place, Essex-street, and am an unfortunate girl. I knew the prisoner, Henry Priest, for about a fortnight before the robbery—one morning in August, about eight o'clock, he came to my room—I do not know what day—I have since heard of Dr. Bell's robbery—It was the same morning; he brought a morning-gown, a black silk dress. and a white handkerchief, in a basket—Rosetta Brown saw these things—he asked her to pawn the morning-gown—she went to pawn it—he left about six or seven o'clock in the evening—he mentioned the rob bery in Rosetta Brown's presence—next morning he came again, and brought some clothes in a round basket, and a microscope—he went out and took the things away—I do not know where he took them to—I saw a work-box in his possession—(I have seen it since at the police-office,) and a morning-gown, and a box of letters for children—I gave that to Elizabeth Mullany—he told me there had been a robbery committed in his mother's yard, and that he did it—that it was a gentleman and lady going into the country that had been robbed, and that there were some portmanteaus—he asked me to fetch his mother, and meet him at a public-house in Montague-street—I went to his mother's, and asked for her; she came to me—I saw her at her own house, the first house in the yard—when we were going along, she told me she had not time to put the things away before the officers came quick upon her; and when she could not pot them away, she burnt them—I am sure she said that—she mentioned some lace which she burnt—this is the work-box,

Henry Priest . She said at first that I brought a hamper into her place—she knew of the robbery nine days before I went there. Witness I knew of the robbery on the 6th of August, and on 7th he came to my room with these clothes.

Martha Priest . She came to my house on the morning of the robbery, and asked for Harriet Priest—I said she was not at home, what did she want—she said Mrs. Priest—I then said, what did she want—she said had I a son named Henry—I said yes, I had—she said I must be very particular, was he at home last night? I SAID, "NO"—she said he was at her place, would I go with her—she took me to a street near where I saw "Rose-lane" written up—she said if I would wait there, she would go and fetch him—I staid about ten minutes, and saw her com ing with my son, and another young man—I said to my son, "Henry, where have you been?" and the young man who was with her said, 'Do not stand here, we will go to a public-house, and have a pint of porter"—I then said to my son, "What have you done?"—he said Mr. Bell's place had been broken open—that he did not do it, but he knew those who did do it, and he wished me to get him a shirt, as he was determined to go into the country.

Witness. Henry told me when I went to his mother to ask for his sister—I did not ask if her son had been at home last night—I took her to Old Montague-street, and then fetched Henry and another young man to meet her—we went into a public-house, and sat in the same box, but I did not notice what she said to her son, she spoke so low—Henry told me he did the robbery—I said I had been living with my friend, I did not say two years and a half—I did not say that if my young man went into the

country with another young woman, I would tell all I knew about it—she said she burnt some lace, and there was some ribbon of Mrs. Bell's that she should like to put on her bonnet.

MR. BODKIN . Q. Do you know what became of the black silk dress which was brought to your room? A. Henry priest took it away the next day.

ROSETTA BROWN . I am an unfortunate woman, and live in Essex-street. I was at Eliza Brown's lodging on the day that Henry priest came there—I do not know the day—he came between seven and eight o'clock in the morning—he brought a black silk dress wrapped in a white handkerchief, or cloth—he asked me to take the morning gown to pledge for him, and I did, at Mr. Fleming's, in Whitechapel, for 3 s .—I returned after I had pledged it, and gave him the money—he said there had been a robbery done, and he got the things from some yard—I do not know whether he said they were Mr. Bell's things, but he did not say who did the robbery—It was after I came back from the pawnbroker's he told me this—the next morning he brought some more things, and I pawned two pair of white trowsers for half-a-crown—I knew then that they were stolen—there are the trowsers and gown—I had asked the pawnbroker to lend 4 s . on the gown, and he gave me 3 s .—I do not know what I asked on the trowsers

ELIZABETH MULLANY . I am an unfortunate girl; I live in Mason's-court, Bishopsgate-street. I know Eliza Brown—about a month ago I received a box with some letters in it from her—I burnt it—I also received from her this work-box, a pair of cotton stockings, and two pocket-hand kerchiefs—I pledged the box for 1 s . at Mr. Capp's, in Old-street-road and the cotton stockings and handkerchiefs for 9 d ., at the same place—I pawned a pair of ribbed stockings for her at Mr. Board's, for 2 s

ANN WADDELL . I am a pensioner's wife, and live at No. 8, Half-moon-street, I know Martha Priest—on the 6th of August, I saw her about a quarter after five hand; as much as she could carry—she was running along—she asked me if I would let her leave the bundle with me, and I refused on account of my husband being in a dangerous state—I after wards went, between nine and ten o'clock, into Widegate-alley, to buy a bit of meat—I was Martha Priest at the public-house at the corner—she had some things bundled round her, under her gown—she asked me if I would buy two dresses—I said I had plenty of dresses—I saw one was a dark cotton dress; and the other was a check silk—she did not pro duce them, but I saw part of them hanging down under her petticoats—she then offered me two shirts, which she asked 5 s . apiece for—I saw a B marked on one of the shirts—I said I would buy one of her, if she would stop till I went home to get the money—she said her daughter was going to be married, and she wanted to furnish a room for her—she would not trust me, and I did not buy any thing of her—the palce where she was is a kind of market for second-hand shoes—she produced a handkerchief out of her pocket, and a pair of lasting shoes—I tried one of them on, and would have bought them, but she would not trust me—this is a pattern of the check silk dress which she had with her—I knew the pattern again as soon as I saw it.

Martha Priest. Q. Did you ever see me in your life with these dresses, or any other? Witness. Yes; you came to my door at five o'clock in the morning.

Martha Priest. She stated before the Lord Mayor that I showed her a handsome silk dress, and another with a leaf pattern.

Deposition read —"Ann Waddell, of No. 8, Half-moon-street, says, on Thursday, she believes the 6th of August, the prisoner, Martha Priest, offered to sell her two dresses; one was silk, of the pattern produced and the other of a leaf pattern. "

Witness. It was a dark dress, and had the appearance of a leaf pattern.

Martha Priest. She said one was an elegant silk dress, trimmed with black crape; and the other a yellow dress, with a leaf on it, and Dr. Bell is a witness of it.

DR. BELL . I do not recollect any thing of the kind being said.

JOHN JAMES . I am a tailor, and live in Catharine-wheel-alley—the front of my house commands a view of Mrs. Priest's. On the 6th of August I was up at a little after five o'clock—I saw Mrs. Priest and her son Thomas come out, at about ten minutes or a quarter past five o'clock—she had a good-sized bundle with her, and went towards Bishopsgate-street—I suppose it would take a person five minutes to go from there to Half-moon-alley—I saw her come back in about ten minutes, without a bundle.

Martha Priest. Q. Was it not a small mattress and some blankets for my daughter? A. I do not know, it was a bundle, and your son had a small bundle in his hand.

FRANCIS M'LEAN . I am an inspector of the City police. I went to the prisoner's premises in Catharine-wheel-alley, on the morning of the 6th of August—I went several times afterwards, and on the 17th, Jebbett found this screw-driver on the top of the prisoner's bedstead—I applied it to the marks on the coach-house gates, which appeared to have been made by the person who broke them open—In my judgement. they had been made by this screw-driver—I received these scissors and other articles from Mrs. Dommett.

HENRY JEBBETT ( City police-sergeant, No . 1.) I went with the inspector, and discovered this screw-driver on the top of the bedstead—Martha Priest said, "That is my screw-driver, we have had it two years, it came from a master where my husband worked"—on the 16th, Martha Priest came to my house, and said that Henry was at home, and in bed; I went and took him—she followed me up stairs into the room, where he was partly dressed—he seemed rather surprised—she said to him, "Come, Henry, tell all you know about it, as I am determined that Tom shall not suffer, he is an innocent boy"—I took Henry to the Compter—I did not say any thing to induce him to confess, but in going along, he said to me, "I did the job—I went down Half-moon-street, and met Jack Peck, and he said, 'Harry, do you know of any thing?' and it came into my recollection that Dr. Hell's servants had carried the things down to the coach-house, and I told him of it, and Jack Peck brought another person with him; I do not know who he was"—he said, in the morning, he took part of the things to Peck's house, down Hackney-road—that there was a county policeman standing by Peck's door, and he passed by, and threw the bundle over into the garden—he said the portmanteaus had been emptied in the passage of his mother's house; that they went to Spitalfields market, and in passing a country waggon, he had stolen a basket to pack up the things that were left—he said the microscope had been left at Dick. Hunt, in Turville-street, (which is a beer-shop,) and Dick Hunt had offered him ten shillings

on it—I got a search—warrant, and searched Hunt's house, but we could not find it.

COURT . Q. When you went to Martha Priest, on the morning of the robbery, did she say any thing about what any body had done, or what she had done herself? A. She said she took some bedding to Mrs. Dom mett's; and that about two o'clock, her son, Henry Priest, knocked at her door for a light, and she handed him the tinder—box and candle, without striking the light; that she asked him where he was going, and he said, across the yard.

MR. BODKIN . Q. In the conversation Henry had with you, was there any thing said about striking a light? A. I do not recollect that there was—I was before the Magistrate on the 10th of September.

Henry Priest. I told him two persons had broken open Mr. Bell's place, and taken most of the things away, but I did not tell him that I met Peck in Half-moon-street. Witness. I am quite sure he said he met him; that Peck asked if he knew of any thing, and he then thought of Mr. Bell's things.

Martha Priest. When he came to my house, he asked if I had given my son any light—I said, "No, I did not—he came home rather later than common—he knocked at my door, and asked for a light—I gave him a candle—I heard him unfasten the kitchen door, and strike a light—I then heard him unbolt the door, and go into the yard." Witness. She said she asked him where he was going, and he said he wanted to go into the yard—I thought it was the yard in front of her house—I do not know whether there is any back-yard—there is a gas-light in the yard, which would serve to break open the coach-house by.

JAMES MERCHANT . I am a ward—officer. I went to the prisoner's house on the morning of the robbery, at twenty minutes before six o'clock—I found Martha Priest in the lower room, on the ground floor—there was a very large fire burning in her room—there appeared to be some thing thrown on, not coal or wood; it was all in a blaze—I came out—another officer went in, and noticed the same.

Martha Priest. When you came to my door in the morning, you asked whether I know any thing of the robbery—I said, "No" Witness. Yes, you said you heard a noise under your window about two o'clock in the morning, and you expected it was your son came home; but you called up—stairs, and he was at home; and then you went to bed again.

THOMAS PETCH . I am superintendent of the watch. I went to the house on the morning of the robbery—I noticed a fire—It appeared as if it were a blaze, not a coal-fire; but as if wood or something light had been put on.

MARTHA PRIEST . Q. You sent a man to me, to come to Cock—hill to you? A. Yes, I did—she said that at two o'clock in the morning she heard a noise, and thought it was her son coming home, and she called up stairs "Henry," and found he was in bed—I asked her if she knew of these portmanteaus being there; she said "No, "—she said she looked through the window—the next morning she said she slept down stairs—before, she said she slept up one pair of stairs.

JOHN BOARDS . I produce a pair of silk—stockings, pledged with me by the witness Mullany.

JAMES FRANCIS THOMPSON . I am a pawnbroker. I produce a coat and waistcoat, pledged by a man who gave the name of Rymer.

THOMAS CAPPS . I am a pawnbroker. I produce this work—box and night—jacket, pledged by Mullany.

JOSEPH NUGENT . I produce this dressing-gown and a pair of trowsers—I took in the gown of a woman—I do not remember who—I did not take in the trowsers.

THOMAS RYMER . I am a tailor; I live in Half-moon-street, Sun-street, Bishopsgate. I was at the Woolpack on the 10th of August—Henry Priest came in with this coat and waistcoat, and asked me to pawn it, which I did at Mr. Thompson's—I gave the money 16 s . to Henry Priest.

HENRY PRIEST . I gave him these things to pledge.

SARAH DOMMETT . I delivered to the officer two pair of woman's shoes, a silk handkerchief, a half-handkerchief, two pair of scissors, and a pair of trowsers—Thomas Priest brought them to my room, and gave them to his sister Harriet, who was with me, learning my business, and asked her to pledge them—she could not go out, as she had no shoes—I pledged one pair of shoes, but not these—I gave these to M'Lean, the officer.

DR. BELL . Among the things lost, there was a black—silk dress, trimmed with crape, that has not been discovered—this dressing—gown is mine—there was a microscope among the property, that has not been found—there was a silk dress of Mrs. Bell's, of this pattern—I have tried on the coat and waistcoat; they are certainly mine, and I had a black coat and waist-coat in the portmanteau—there are spots of grease on these things, and there are similar spots of grease on the portmanteau, as if from a candle—this work—box is Mrs. Bell's, and this is the top which fits it; this was left on the portmanteau, which was found in a corner of the yard, formed by Mrs. Priest's house and the gate—I had among the things an alphabet, called "Spelling in Play"—these shoes have been identified by Mrs. Bell—the other shoes, which the woman tried on, my wife could not swear to—this half—handkerchief is mine—I have brought the other half from my house this morning—there was a pair of lasting shoes lost, and there was a pair produced before the Magistrate, but we could not swear to them—I did not see Mrs. Waddell fit the shoes on; she was there, I think.

MR. BODKIN to MRS. WADDELL . Q. You saw the lasting shoes at the mansion-house? A. Yes, I did.

Henry Priest's Defence. My mother knows nothing about any of the things—what things were left, I took away to Eliza Brown, and she pawned them—I took the silk dress to quite another place.

Martha Priest's Defence. I never saw an article of Mr. Bell's—as to the portmanteau being left in my passage, it is a false report—Mr. Bell knows what I said to him—the things I took out were for my daughter.—the officer went to Mrs. Dommett's, and it was to her place that I was tak ing my bed that morning; and the officer went with my son there, and saw what he took—there was a small bed, a pair of blankets, a bolster, and a pillow.

SARAH DOMMETT re-examined. At a quarter before six o'clock, Thomas Priest knocked at my door, and brought the bed—I thought he was come for his sister, for she said she would not come home—he said, "Take in this bed"—I said, "What o'clock is it?"—he said, "A quarter to six o'clock"—I dressed myself and walked about the room, when there came a knock at my door—I got up and there were six officers, who came into my room, and asked what I had got there—I said, "My two children"—they said, "What bed is this?"—I said, "It came down from Martha Priest"—they said, "Do you know what it contains?"—I said "No"—I opened it—there was nothing in it, and they went away—Harriet came to me, and said

there had been a robbery, that her brother, that her brother Henry and two more had done it—I said, "What does your mother mean by sending this bed?"—she said the tailor had seen her mother go out with a bundle that morning, and to make a good excuse for that, she had sent that bed, and it would be taken away in the course of the day.

HARRIET PRIEST . I am the prisoner's daughter. I saw Mrs. Dommett about six or a quarter past six o'clock—I sent my brother Thomas round with the bed—I said my brother Henry was absent this morning, and I had brought the bed round to her—there were two young men slept in Mrs. Dommett's room, and the police-officer went up and searched the bed—that was all that I said—I told her that my brother Henry was out, and I took the bed because he said that I should never have any thing away from home.

MR. BODKIN . Q. Did you sleep at your mother's that night? A. Yes—I got up at half-past five o'clock—when the officers came into the place, I had just lighted the wood—It had hardly burnt up at all—I had not lighted it above ten minutes—there was just a blaze under the kettle—my mother went out with a basket, and bolster, and pillow—I took a bas ket and two small mattresses—my mother and I carried that—my brother Thomas went out with the bed to Mrs. Dommett's—we did not tell her we were going to bring the bed there—my mother did not go there.

Martha Priest. I never left my house that morning; the officer knows it—I never assisted—the officer never left the room, not I, from the time they got there.

HENRY PRIEST— GUILTY . Aged 21.

Transported for Seven Years .

MARTHA PRIEST— NOT GUILTY .

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2052. MARY PACKETT was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of July , 1 bonnet, value 5 s ., the goods of Ann Wootten ; and 1 shawl, value 1 s ., the goods of Ann Wootten the younger ; and that she had been before convicted of felony; to which she pleaded

GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years .

2053. THOMAS JACKSON was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of September , 1 pair of trowsers, value 26 s ., the goods of James Scales ; to which he pleaded

GUILTY .— Confined One Month .

2054. THOMAS NORRIS was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of September , 2 cravats, value 2 s ., the goods of James Blake .

JAMES BLAKE . I am a hosier, and live in Piccadilly. On the 21st of September I had some cravats hanging on a rail at the door of my shop—the prisoner was brought to me that evening, by the officer, with these cravats, which are mine—I had not sold them—I found the place where they ought to have hung.

WILLIAM WOOD . I am the officer. I was on duty in Piccadilly, and saw the prisoner running with these cravats in his hand—I brought him back with them to the shop—I did not see him take them

Prisoner's Defence. I was going by the shop—these were on some rails—I took them up, and was going on with them.

RICHARD BIRD . I was going by, and saw the prisoner put out his hand, and take them, and go off with them—they were not on the ground.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Three Months .

2055. ELIZABETH BARROW was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of August , 2 sheets, value 2 s ., 6 d ., the goods of James Hunter .

ESTHER HUNTER . I am the wife of James Hunter. The prisoner lodged at our house on the 26th, 27th, and 28th of August—she left of the 29th, and I missed two sheets—I met her afterwards, and told her she had pawned the sheets, and desired her to give me the duplicates—she said they were gone to the wash; but at last she gave me them.

Prisoner. I said I was extremely sorry for what I had done, and it was done from distress—she said, if I would get the money, and bring it, she would give me the duplicates to get them out—I told her I thought I could get them out by Tuesday. Witness. She said she could, and asked me to forgive her—I said it was not in my power; they were my husband's things.

THOMAS WOOD . I am a pawnbroker. I took in one sheet of the pri soner on the 29th—I did not take in the other—I have had the money brought to take them out since.

GUILTY . Aged 34.— Recommended to mercy by the Jury and Prose cutor. — Confined Six Days .

2056. HESTER BINDEN and HANNAH BINDEN were indicted for stealing, on the 5th of May , 1 spoon, value 3 s ., the goods of Thomas Benn Sowerby .

THOMAS BENN SOWERBY . The prisoner Hester was in my service—Hannah occasionally came there, and was employed in needle-work—they are sisters—I missed two tea-spoons, and found one at Mr. Atten borough's, in Crown-street.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE . Q. What are you? A. A pawn broker—I can recollect that spoon ever since I was about fifteen—I am now thirty-nine—I can produce the fellow to it—It is one of my own, in family use—the prisoner left my service on the 8th or September—I can not say when I saw this spoon—I have within the last twelve months—they were kept in a drawer in the kitchen.

CHARLES FOWLER . I am in the employ of Mr. Attenborough. I pro duce the spoon—It was taken in pledge in my presence, and I believe of the younger prisoner.

Cross-examined. Q. Have you often seen the younger prisoner pawning things for the family? A. I have seen her—her mother is a widow, and her father is dead—to the best of my knowledge it was taken in of her, be cause I do not recollect any other part of the family pawning things.

THOMAS SAPWELL . I am the officer. I went to Mrs. Binden on the 18th of September—I produce a corresponding duplicate to that produced by the pawnbroker—I found that on Hester, the prosecutor's servant.

(Mr. Bradley gave the prisoners a good character.)

HESTER BINDEN— GUILTY .— Confined Three Months .

HANNAH BINDEN— NOT GUILTY .

2057. ELIZABETH BINDEN was indicted for receiving, on the 1st of June , 1 whistle, value 1 s ., the goods of Thomas Benn Sowerby , well knowing the same to have been stolen, against the Statute, &c.

THOMAS SAPWELL . I went to the prisoner's house, and found several things, and among the rest this whistle—It was in a butter flat at the cor ner of the room—she said it had been in the family for some years.

THOMAS BENN SOWERBY . I missed a whistle of this sort about May or June last.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE . Q. Do not you know the prisoner's husband was a respectable man, and carried on business? A. I have heard so—I had seen this whistle in May or June—I cannot tell whose hands it had gone through.

NOT GUILTY

2058. THOMAS JONES was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of Sep tember , 2 shillings, the monies of Richard Stockbridge .

RICHARD STOCKBRIDGE . I am a carpenter, and live in James-street, Manchester-square. On the 21st of September, the prisoner came to lodge with me—he slept with me—I afterwards marked three shillings and two sixpences, and put them into my trowsers pocket—I am sure they were safe when I went to bed—when I got up I missed two shillings—I got the policeman who found them under a pair of slippers by the edge of the carpet.

Prisoner. Q. On your oath, were not you tipsy? A. No; as sober as I am now—I did not make any disturbance in going to bed, only in getting off my boots—because you had got the boot-jack.

PATRICK TIERNEY . I am an officer—I found these two shillings con cealed under the slipper.

Prisoner. Q. What distance did one slipper lay from the other? A. About a quarter of an inch—I found one slipper with the sole down, and the other up—I do not know whether any one might have moved them in getting up.

Prisoner's Defence. I am quite innocent—the prosecutor objected to me from the first night—I do not know why.

RICHARD STOCKBRIDGE . I have no animosity against him.

Jury. Q. Where were the slippers? A. Near his bed-side—I slept next the wall—the trowsers were on the fender, on the other side of the room.

NOT GUILTY

2059. MARIA WIGGITT was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of September , 1 pair of stockings, value 5 s ., the goods of Juliet Cohen .

ESTHER WOODHAM . I am twelve years old—I know the necessity of speaking the truth—I am servant to Mrs. Juliet Cohen—she lives at Cam bridge-health, and keeps a shop—on the 14th of September, the prisoner came in, and took a pair of black silk stockings off the counter (I had seen her before)—I followed her down North-street, and on to Whitechapel church—she then met a man, and went on with him—I followed her to the gallery of the Pavilion theatre—I got in with the crowd—the check-taker asked me where was my check—I said I was with a man and woman—I waited about an hour—the prisoner then came out—the man did not come out with her—she went into the next door passage—I went after her, and called the woman—she came out with a light—the prisoner then went into the yard, and threw the stockings down a privy—I went for a policeman—I saw a man in the presence of the policeman take them up—the shop door was open—my mistress went next door—the prisoner had watched her out, and then came in.

FERDINAND MC KEE ( police-sergeant H 4.) A man searched the privy in my presence, and found these stockings.

JULIET COHEN . These are my stockings.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Six Months .

2060. ANN SMITH was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of Septem ber , I gown, value 4 s . 6 d ., the goods of Thomas Nichols .

GEORGE CLAMP . I keep a pawnbroker's shop in Aldersgate-street. On Saturday, the 12th of September, at three o'clock, this gown was brought to pledge by the prisoner—she asked me 4 s . on it—I detained her.

WILLIAM FAULKNER . I am apprentice to Thomas Nichols, a pawn broker, in Gray's-inn-lane. This gown is his—the prisoner had been there between eleven and twelve o'clock on the 12th of September, and I missed it when she left the shop.

Prisoner. A woman gave it to me—I do not know where she lodged.

GUILTY . Aged 49.— Confined Six Months .

2061. JOHN PROCTOR was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of September , 1 syringe, value 4 d .; and 1 sixpence, and 4 1/2 d . in copper money; the goods and monies of Edmund Ensor , his master.

WILLIAM MASON . I am in the service of Mr. Edmund Ensor, a chemist, who lives in Oxford-street. The prisoner was in his employ—on the morning of the 15th of September, I counted the money in the till—I went out; and when I returned, I missed from the till a sixpence, and 4 1/2 d . in copper—I told the prisoner to turn his pockets out, which he did; and in his pocket was this syringe, which is my master's—the prisoner had no right to have it—he said he had taken it that morning—I called a policeman, who found the money I had missed in a medicine-basket—he said he had placed it there, and it was the only money he had taken.

Prisoner's Defence. He paid me 2 s . the night before—he found 1 s . in my pocket, and that was the change of the other.

GUILTY . Aged 16.— Confined Six Months .

2062. WILLIAM APPLETON was indicted for embezzlement.

ELIZABETH DOBSON . I am a cotton and brush-manufacturer, and live in Gloucester-street, Clerkenwell. The prisoner was in my employ for fifteen months—he had 9 s . a week—he received money which it was his duty to bring to me.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES . Q. Are you a widow? A. Yes—I have a son, who had assisted me in my business, but not for the last five weeks—he is not sixteen years old—he never acted as master over the prisoner—I do not know that they were often together—I have heard that the prisoner has got married—I do not know that he married an intimate acquaintance of my son's—my son's conduct has not always been quite satisfactory.

GEORGE HARRIS . I am a tallow-chandler, and deal with the prosecutrix. On the 21st of august, I paid the prisoner four guineas for his mistress—he gave me this receipt.

JOHN STONE . I am a tallow-chandler, and live in Church-street, Shoreditch. On the 22nd of August, I paid the prisoner 2 l . 18 s . 6 d . for Mrs. Dobson—the whole bill is 4 l . 10 s .; but they had a box of candles, and I paid him the balance, 2 l . 18 s . 6 d .

Cross-examined. Q. Then there is no receipt for the 2 l . 18 s . 6 d .? A. I received it of him as it is now—I did not think to ask him to put down the amount which he did receive—I paid him the balance, 2 l . 18 s . 6 d . on the 22nd of August.

WILLIAM TANNER . On the 7th of August, I paid the prisoner 4 l . 7 s . for the prosecutrix.

JOHN EARL STRADLING . I deal with Mrs. Dobson. On the 3rd of August, I paid the prisoner 16 s . 4 d . for her.

ELIZABETH DOBSON . I never received from the prisoner this 16 s . 4 d . on the 3rd of August; nor the 4 l . 7 s ., paid on the 7th of August; nor the 2 l . 18 s . 6 d ., received on the 22nd of August.

Cross-examined Q. Have you not employed your son to receive money for you? A. Yes; but he has not been in town for five weeks—he always told me what he had received, if he did not bring it home—I authorized my son to receive money of Mr. Blackador; that is a long white ago—I did complain that he did not bring home the whole of that money—I never authorized my son to receive money of the prisoner; nor never knew him do so—I have reproached him for spending money extravagantly—I do not know that he has taken money from the prisoner, which he had received for me—he is at home now—he left in July, and came back either the 3rd or 4th of this month—I know Mr. Hale, of Cannon-street—I reproached my son for not accounting for some money he received of him—It was about 6 s .—he may have received a trifle for me in my shop, but I am always in business myself—ours is not a trade in which we receive prisoner, while my son was in the country.

Prisoner. I am sorry for what has happened—I was not able to sup port myself—I could not work and starve at the same time.

(Samuel Inman, an undertaker, and Mr. Hitchcock, of the Jacob's Well, Barbican, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Nine Months .

2063. MARY MAHONEY was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of August , 1 window-curtain, value 8 d .; 1 petticoat, value 4 d .; 1 napkin, value 8 d .; and 1 handkerchief, value 3 s .; the goods of Jane Davis , her mistress; and that she had been before convicted of felony.

JANE DAVIS . I am a window, and live in Payne-street, Islington. I take in washing—the prisoner washed for me—I missed a napkin, a handkerchief, and some other things, on the 19th of August, and on the 24th I missed a great many more—I went to the prisoner's lodging, and there I saw my window-curtain part on the top of her bed, and part on the bottom—this is my chair-cover.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. You found the quit whole on her bed? A. Yes; and two bits of it were my window curtain—I know it by the pattern—I have no private mark on it—I have the fellow to it; there are others of the same pattern, but I swear it is mine—I bought it twenty years ago—I never saw one like it—I do not claim any other pieces of this quilt—I know this handkerchief—I had it to wash for Mr. Rippon—she confessed she pawned this for half-a-crown—she fell on her knees, and said she would bring that, and all my things home in the evening if I would not prosecute her—I did not say any thing to her—I had put it out of my own hands—the policeman was there then—I had seen the prisoner before the policeman came—I then said, if I could get every thing I had lost, I did not know whether I should prosecute her or not—the officer told me to take her up.

WILLIAM HORNSBY ( police-constable N 124.) I went to the prisoner's lodging—I found these things in the room.

Cross-examined Q. Did you tell her to give the prisoner into custody A. No; I did not—I found the things in the room.

JOSEPH WOLSTENHOLM . I am a pawnbroker—I produce a silk hand kerchief which I took in of the prisoner on the 13th of August, for 2 s . 6 d .

HENRY WILLIAMS . I am a police constable. I produce a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got Clerkenwell—I know she is the person—( read. )

JANE DAVIS . This is a handkerchief I lost—this other was found on the prisoner's mantel-piece—she told me where this was pawned.

GUILTY . Aged 24.— Transported for Seven Years .

2064. ANN SHARPE , the wife of Frederick Sharpe, was indicted for stealing, on the 10th of September , 2 bags, value 4 s ., the goods of William Engleburt ; and 101bs. 14oz. of silk, value 15 l .; the goods of Theophilus Carr ; and FREDERICK SHARPE was indicted for feloniously receiving the same.

MR. PHILLIPS conducted the Prosecution .

WILLIAM ENGLEBURT . I live in Elizabeth-street, Hackney-road, and am a machine-winder. On the 10th of September, I had some silk weighed to me at Messrs. Carr and Vanner's and 430 bobbins—they were placed in a basket for me, and I sent Henry Rouse for them, with two bags, one for the silk, and one for the bobbins—he returned at five o'clock, and said he had lost them—I went to the prisoner's house, in Spicer-street, Brick-lane—I saw a little girl, and made inquiries of her—the silk was worth 17 l ., the bobbins 15 s ., and the bags 4 s .

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. From whom did you receive the silk? A. Carr and Vanner's—I had it not in my possession, but my servant had—I am responsible for it—I shall have to pay for it—the boy has been with me about a month.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Did you desire the silk to be given to your servant? A. Yes; it was weighed to me, and delivered into my hands, and put into my basket.

HENRY ROUSE . I am turned of twelve years of ago—I am in the service of Mr. Engleburt. I went to Carr and Vanner's, in Wood-street, Spitalfields, on the 10th of September—I received the silk and bobbins, and put them in two bags, and put one bag in the other—I went on to Spicer-street, and left the bag under the prisoner's window while I went into Truman and Hanbury's brewhouse, where my father works, to see him—I came out in about five minutes, and my bag and silk was gone—I knocked at the door where the name of Sharpe was—a little girl came to the door—In consequence of what she said, I went home and told my master.

Cross-examined Q. Had you been in the habit of carrying silk before for your master? A. Yes; he has told me they have been valuable par cels of silk—I had been told not to leave it any where—the prisoner's door is opposite the brewhouse, across the road—I did not think they would let me take the parcel into the brewhouse, and I thought no one would take it—there were men at work at the brewhouse, and bricks and mortar falling down—my father was at work up stairs at the brewhouse—It was half-past three in the day.

MARY ANN MORISON . On the 10th of September, I lived servant with the two prisoners, at No. 2, Spicer-street, Brick-lane—on the afternoon of that day, I was up stairs with my mistress—she was at work with the window open—my master was not at home—my mistress looked out of the window, and said to me, "Mary, go down and take that black bag in "—I went down, opened the door, and saw a bag down by the side of the steps—I brought it into the entry—It was heavy to lift—I went up stairs

to my work, and my mistress came down, and I heard a door unlocked—my mistress came up, and soon after a know came at he door—my mis tress said to me, "Go down, and if that little boy ask you if you took in a black bag say no"—I went down and saw the witness Rouse; he was crying—he asked me if I had taken in a black hag—I told him, no—I went up to my mistress, and said to her, "what a way the poor boy seems in"—she said, "It serves him right; he had no business to go away"—Mr. Engleburt came to the house afterwards, and my mistress said, "If that gentleman asks you if you took a black bag in, say no;" and I did as I was desired—my master came home about seven o'clock—I went home that night as usual—I went there again the next morning, and I heard my mistress say to my master, "What do you think, Fred ?"—he said, "I do not know"—she said, "There was a black bag down by the step of our door, and I told Mary to go and take it in, and as soon as I found what was in it, I chucked it out into the street again"—he said, "Aye that was right; if you had not done that I should have blowed you up "—my master said to me, "Mary if any body comes to the door and gets you by yourself and asks you if you took a black bag in, say no"—I went home that night as usual and told my mother what had happened—I went to my place the next day which was Saturday—I said to my mistress "I see there are bills up about that ere bag"—I said, "Ah! is there?" don't think there was so much as that; I don't know"—my master came home to dinner that day, and he said to my mistress, "I see there are bills up about that ere silk"—the bag felt like bobbins at the bottom and it had something soft at top—my master and mistress slept on the first floor.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you been in service? A. This weeks with the prisoners—I had lived with a person named Pearl before—I forget the names of the persons I lived with last, before I went to the prisoners, but they lived across Hare-street fields—I left there because my mistress had no work—I used to do about the place, and wind quills—my mistress staid down stairs a few minutes after I heard the door un locked—I went down a second time, and was then down a quarter of an hour—I did not mention that to the Magistrate—I thought it was very wicked to go fetch the bag in, but I did it, because my mistress bid me—I would not do any wicked thing she bid me do—I thought it was my mas ter's undertaker's bag—I have never seen the bag since I brought it is—I went home at eight o'clock at night.

MR. DOANE . Q. Is your master an undertaker? A. Yes; I thought it was his bag—It was after that that I thought it was a wicked thing.

JOHN M'WILLIAMS ( police-sergeant H 18.) On the 13th of September, I went to the prisoner's hourse in spicer-street, Brick-lane—my brother officer knocked, and we got in—the two prisoners, were there, and while Teakle was searching the bed in the first floor room, the male prisoner said, "I don't know that you have a right to do so without a warrant"—I told him we had him in custody for felony—Teakle pulled from between the bed and the sacking what had been a bag, and he asked the female prisoner how long she had had that—she said between two and three years; and she turned to her husband, who was standing there, and said, " Fred, , is not it? "—he said, "Yes, it is full that time. "

GEORGE TEAKLE ( police-constable H 121.) I went with M'Williams to the prisoners' house—I knocked, but could not get in—I went three dif ferent

times, and was answered by the female prisoner from the chamber window—I asked if Mr. Sharpe was at home—she said each time that he was not—I at got in, and the male prisoner came home in about five minutes—I found this which appears to have been a bag, between the bed and the sacking—the female; prisoner said they had had it two or three years.

ANN CRAGER . I am servant to Mr. Engleburt. I know this, it was Mr. Engleburt's bag—I made it at first, and have repaired it since—here is a hole which I neglected.

THEOPHILUS CARR . I am in partnership with Mr. Vanner. I put the silk into the bag for Mr. Engleburt.

ANN SHARPE — GUILTY —Aged 29.— Recommended to mercy by the Jury. — Confined One Year .

FREDERICK SHARPE— NOT GUILTY .

OLD COURT .— Monday, September 28 th, 1835.

First Jury, before Mr. Justice Williams.

2065. JAMES WATFORD and JOHN BARRETT were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Richard Simpson , about the hour of ten in the night of the 18th of September , at St. Cle ment Danes , with intent to steal his goods therein.

WILLIAM DUKE . I am in the employ of John Williams, of the Norfolk Arms strand. On the 18th of September, about half-past nine o'clock at night I was at the first-floor window and saw three men standing round the prosecutors's windows, which is opposite—one of them appeared boring something, as if to break the glass—they stood at the left hand corner of the shop window quite close together—I saw one of them put his hand in the window where the glass was broken—I did not hear it breaking—Watford is the one who was boring—he stood on the right-hand side, and was twirling his hands as if he was breaking the glass, for about five mi nutes—I then went down stairs, crossed the road, and informed Mr. Simp son what was going on—they not see me, as they were looking into the window—they were gone form the window then—they left just before I quitted the window—I then returned to master's window, stopped there a minute or two, and saw Watford walking to and for, as if looking out for a chance to get something out of the window—I went and pointed him out to Mr. Simpson, who took him—I know nothing of the other prisoner—I am sure Watford is the man who was whirling his arm, bor ing at the window.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. Was it dark? A. Yes; I identified watford by his face—I told the Magistrate he wore a brown coat—I did not see I did not see his face, nor that he was loosening the brass rod, nor that I found the brass rod loose—the policeman was walk ing backward and forward—the Magistrate bound Barrett over to find bail for an assault, I believe.

COURT . Q. You did not mention Barrett before the Magistrate? A. No; I saw Watford's face, when he was at the shop window—he turned round to look on one side—I was at an open window—I saw them by the gas-light of the prosecutor's window, and there is a gas-lamp at the next house—I am sure I saw watford put his hand inside the window after I saw him twirling—I was sitting at the window, looking out, when I saw him—I was in a customer's room.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. Do you mean to swear you saw Watford's hand inside the window? A. Yes; I was on the other side of the way—It is in the narrow part of the Strand, between the New Church and St. Cle ments—between Surrey-street and Norfolk-street—his back was towards me—I saw him put his whole hand into the window where there were braces and silk handkerchiefs—he was disturbed from taking any thing by some people coming out of the tobacconist's shop next door—his hand was not in the window half a minute—he put it in and drew it out—I swear I saw it in the window—I am about twenty-three years old, and have lived there a year and eight months—I wait on the company—there was nobody else in the room I was in.

RICHARD SIMPSON . I am an hosier and glover, and live at No. 178, Strand. Goatley came to me on Friday night, the 18th, between nine and ten o'clock—he came over first, about half-past nine o'clock, and gave me some information, and in consequence of that, I went and examined my window, and found it was perfectly secure—he came over very shortly afterwards—I then went out and examined my window, and found a pane of glass broken or cut, and a piece out of it large, enough to admit a person's hand—this piece of glass fell inside, on a piece of handker chief—It appears as if it had been cut completely out—It was perfectly smooth, and the rest of the pane remained—the piece taken out was as oval cut from corner—that was done between the first and second time of his coming over—the remainder of the pane was perfectly smooth—there were some pieces of silk handkerchief in that pane of glass—the hole was cut about three inches above the silk-handkerchiefs, and was large enough to admit a person's hand, and a piece of silk to be drawn through, for I tried it—I took Watford into custody about two minutes after I saw the hole—I was talking to Duke at my door, and he pointed out Watford—that was after I had discovered the hole—I seized him—he asked what I took him for—I said he knew as well as I did—he said I had no business to pull him about—a policeman then came up and took him—I do not think there was any body in the shop at the time Duke gave the information the first time—I did not leave the shop, but the noise is so great in the street that a whole pane of glass might he broken and I not hear it—I must have been in the shop at the time it was done—I can only see the top of the window in the shop, for the goods in the window concealed the corner in which this happened—It is impossible for me to see it—I do not think my boy was in the shop at the time—I think he was getting his supper—some braces were hung over where the aperture was made, and some were lying on the silk handkerchiefs—I think they had been pulled out of their place or they might have got there by accident or my boy might have displaced them; with that exception I do not think any think had been displaced.

Cross-examined Q. There is a great deal of noise in that part of the street? A. Yes; my window is not above one foot and a half from the ground—the hole is, I should think, two feet and a half from the ground—the noise that prevents our hearing, is caused by omnibuses and car riages passing every minute—I should apprehend that if they were passing exactly at the time, they might prevent a person on the opposite side seeing a hand in the window—I have had a whole pane knocked in, and not heard it—I am quite sure the window was not broken after Duke first came to me—he being on the first floor, I should think could see the pane of glass he might have been even over an omnibus—he was not ex actly

opposite, but obliquely—I should think he was 125 feet from the window—I have seen three omnibuses pass together in that part, but with great difficulty.

JOHN BRIDGES . I am a policeman. I was on duty on the night in question about half-past nine o'clock and saw the two prisoners standing at the corner of a court, nearly opposite the prosecutor's premises—I should think about thirty yards distance—I observed them several times between half-past nine and ten o'clock, when I passed backwards and forwards on my best—they sometimes separated; Barrett went up the court leading to Holywell-street whenever he saw me coming, and Watford invariably went up or down the Strand—this happened about three times—they were standing still, with their heads protruding out of the court, and as I came up one went up the court, and the other up or down the Strand—I am certain they are the men—I had notseen them before that night, but I have some slight notion of Barrett—after observing them three time, I heard a cry of "Stop thief," from the premise of Simpson—I was then farther down the Strand, the saw Barrett running towards me from Mr. Simpson's—he was running as fast as he could—I ran after him—he turned down Arundel-street, and I followed him—I was never nearer to him than thirty or forty yards—I called "Stop thief"—I did not see him stopped, but came up just at the time—I found a man had got him by the collar—I am sure he is the man I had seen three times with Watford, and whom I saw running—I took him from the man.

Cross-examined Q. After stating this before the Magistrate, Barrett was discharged, to find bail for an assault? A. He was held to bail for an assault—Watford was committed on this charge—what I said before the Magistrate was taken down—I did not state before the Magistrate that I saw them three times together, not that Barrett went up Holywell-street, and the other the Strand; not that I saw their heads protruding out—those ques tions were never asked me—I said I saw them together several times—I saw them several times lurking about the premises, and watched them—I did not see the glass broken—I did not see them do any thing.

JURY . Q. Is the court opposite the window? A. Not quite; I was about thirty or forty yards off.

WILLIAM GOATLEY . I am in the service of the prosecutor. On the night in question, I stood at the door when master went out—I could see into the street—that was after Duke had given the information—as I stood at the door, I saw Barrett and Watford over the way, on the op posite side of the street—Watford was standing with his back towards Barrett, and looking towards the public-house; and Barrett was looking towards our shop—Duke came over to master, and told him that was the person over the way in the brown coat—I did not hear him give infor mation about Warford—he pointed to the one in the brown coat—I be lieve it was Barrett—I did not give any name to the Magistrate; I said, he pointed to the one in the brown coat—Duke pointed with his finger towards his master's house, where they were standing, and said, "That is one in the brown coat"—Mr. Simpson immediately ran over, and laid hold of the one in the brown coat—the other did not observe it, as he was looking in at the public-house—his back was towards him—when the prisoner turned round, and observed Mr. Simpson, he got hold of the other one's collar, he immediately ran—that was the one ( pointing to Watford ) that was taken on the spot—he had a brown coat on at the time—the other immediately ran away down Arundel-street, and turned down Water-street

and I after him—I laid hold of his collar, and had not time to say any thing, before he struck me—there was a cry of "Stop thief"—I am sure the man who struck me, was the man who had been standing with the man in the brown coat—I never lost sight of him till after he struck me; he then got out of my sight, and the policeman took him—I was on the ground, and when I got up, the policeman had got him—I am sure Barrett is the one who ran away—he knocked me down on my knees, and said, "You b----y young b----r if you don't let go, I will knock your brains out"—he struck me on the left ear, and knocked me on the knees.

Cross-examined. Q. Was it a still night, or was there a good deal of travelling on the road? A. Very still; the street was very quiet at the time I caught him—It was noisy when Duke came over, but not very—I was behind the counter, and did not hear the window break—It appeared to me to have been done with a diamond, or some instrument—It could have been broken with a screw-driver, or any thing, without my hearing, I think—I cannot tell when Duke first came over, whether he mentioned a brown coat, but he said he should know them again, and that there had been three men at the window—I had not seen three persons there.

COURT . Q. Was Duke over with your master once or more? A. Twice; I was in the shop the whole time—I saw my master put his hand through the hole of the window, he could get his hand in—there was a piece of brass hanging outside from the window—It is the brass which goes round the window, with the name on it—It was not necessary to remove that is take any thing—It had been unfastened by lifting it up.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. Did Duke tell you, when he first came over, that the brass was loose? A. No.; he said he had seen three men about the window, who he suspected were doing what was not right.

MR. SIMPSON . The glass appeared to have been marked first with a diamond, and there were four marks in the putty, as if something had been put in to get the glass out.

Watford's Defence. When I was apprehended, Duke said he had never seen my face—It was after ten o'clock when I was taken—Mr. Simpson said, a gentleman had informed him before nine o'clock that somebody was lurking about.

MR. SIMPSON . I was informed, at nine o'clock, that suspicious charac ters were about.

NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Justice Williams.

2066. JOHN GROVE was indicted for embezzling to the amount of 500 l ., which he had received on account of William Masterman , and others, his masters, and within the space of six months, the sum of 10 l . in money, which he had received on their account. Two other COUNTS , for stealing, on the 29th of August , 1 £10 and 1 £5 bank notes, 10 sove reigns, 10 half-sovereigns, 10 crowns, 10 half-crowns, and 10 shillings, the monies of the said William Masterman , and others.

MESSRS. BODKIN and PAYNE conducted the Prosecution.

HENRY OXLEY . I am a partner in the house of William Masterman, and four others, bankers, in Nicholas-lane. The prisoner was in our employ as cashier—his duty, with respect to the specie received, was to debit him self with it in his money-book, which was the account between us—It was the account of the money-drawer, with which he was entrusted—the cash was to be put into the drawer or till—there are three regular cashiers in the house, who attend the counter—two or three drawers are open at the

same time—there must be some of the cashiers present during the whole of the banking hours—there is always more than one present—the pri soner made entries also in another book—this is it, ( looking at it ) it is called a telling-up-book—It is a private book belonging to the prisoner—the prisoner's duty was to count up the money in the till, to see that it agreed with the balance in his money-book—this was done every afternoon after five o'clock—the book was made up to four o'clock on the receipt side, and to five o'clock on the payment side, or I would rather say half-past four o'clock—the money received between four and five o'clock is put down, as for the next day—after he has told up his cash, he should endeavour to agree it with himself, and then hand up the book, which shows whether the amount corresponds, in order to facilitates the general balance.

Q. Does he communicate to one of the partners every night the result of his balance? A. Not necessarily—It is put on the balance paper from his book—the book is produced sometimes to one, and sometimes to ano ther, who puts the figures together, to ascertain the balance—according to the prisoner's figures, the balance of cash in his till, on Friday night, the 28th of August, was 1762 l . 8 d . 4 d .—that is the cash he was accountable for, either in the till or that he had in store—It so happened that I looked into the figures with him on the 28th, shout half-past five o'clock, but not into the cash—the telling-up-book and the cash-book were both produced—this entry in the telling-up-book is in the prisoner's writing—he debits himself on the morning of the 28th with cash to the same amount, 1762 l . 8 s . 4 d ., and appears to have received, in the course of the 29th, 624 l . 7 s .—he has debited himself with that—the whole amount received that day is 2638 l . 12 s . 1 d ., being the balance of the 28th and the receipts of the 29th—the payments amount to 1329 l . 8 s . 1 d .—he has taken credit for that—the amount of cash which should have been in his till, or elsewhere under his charge, on the evening the 29th, is 1309 l . 4 s .—that is the result of the figures furnished by himself—after five o'clock on the 29th, I sent for him into the private counting-house, and told him I had a very unpleasant duty to perform, but it must be done; that it had been ob served that his money was large, and it had not been below a certain amount for a considerable time, which gave rise to apprehensions respecting its correctness; that he had neglected to avail himself of some opportuni ties of going out of town which increased the suspicion, and I must re quire him to produce his money, and should be exceedingly glad to find it was correct—I did not distinctly hear what he said, but I understood him to say it was short, and I asked the question, "Then it is short?"—he said it was—I asked how much—he said about, or near 900 l .—after a few seconds, I asked him what had become of it—he was going to tell me a story about somebody which I did not wish to hear—he then immediately threw him self on our mercy—I said I could say nothing to it—I examined his till, and found in the till and drawer under his charge 345 l . 3 d . 0 1/2 d . effective money—there was some bad money in one corner—the deficiency was 964 l . 0 s . 11 1/2 d .

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Who used to make up accounts with him from time to time? A. No one; it is impossible for me to say when this money was taken—whether it was taken at once; or whether any specific sum was taken at once, nor how long before our conversation any of it had been taken.

COURT . Q. Nor from whom the money had been received, not any part of it? A. No.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Nor whether he put the money on receiving it into his pocket or not? A. No, I cannot say, whether it ever found its way into a desk or till of ours, it is quite impossible to say—I have no doubt the partners have received money from customers, and desired him to enter it in his book as received by him.

MR. BONKIN . Q. You say the partners sometimes received money—I presume you mean at the counter? A. Yes; small fractions—they might put it into his till, and say, "Put this down"—that would not affect the account at all—what I mean by "store" is, the prisoner had a box below stairs in which he put any bulk—It would all be within the walls of the banking-house.

CHARLES ROBINSON . I keep cash at Messrs. Mastermans. On the 29th of August I made a payment there of 250 l . 18 s . 9 d .—I can't say how much cash there was, but I think a large portion of it—more than 50 l ., certainly—I should think there were more than 50 l . in sovereigns—I don't know which of the cashiers I paid it to—whoever it was, made an entry in my pass-book, which is here.

Cross-examined Q. At what time did you make the payment? A. I cannot say; but I should think between eleven and four o'clock—It might have been at twelve o'clock—I have no doubt some of it was in bank notes.

MR. OXLEY . The entry in this pass-book is in the prisoner's writing—he debits himself in his money-book, with 140 l . of it as cash—the entry is, "Robinson, 140 l . "

PETER STAFFORD . I have been cashier at Messrs. Mastermans nearly eleven years. The prisoner's station at the counter was next to me, be tween me and another—It is the custom to hand bank-notes or cheques to a clerk behind—It was his duty to put cash into his till, and make an entry in his money-book at the time he puts it into the till, but that is omitted sometimes.

Q. From your knowledge of business, would it in your judgment be an easy thing for a cashier, instead of putting the money into the till, to put it into his pocket? A. Such a thing might be done certainly; even with a cashier on each side of him—they are busily engaged during the day, and might not see an action of that kind—on the 29th of August, I was in attendance nearly the whole day—I presume on that day, that the pri soner put what cash he received into the till—he was transacting his busi ness, both receiving and paying—I did not notice any thing particular it was possible for another person to have access to his till, certainly—I did not observe any thing of the sort take place—he was absent I believe, from about one till half-past two o'clock, but I cannot say exactly—I was there part, or all the time he was absent—I presume his till was locked during that time.

Cross-examined Q. I suppose you had business of your own to attend to? A. I had, of course—the prisoner certainly might put money into his pocket, over and over again, and I not observe it—It was his duty to pay cheques presented, if they were valid—he would take the money for that out of the till—he would pay it out of the money he had received—he would take it indiscriminately as it came to his hand—bank-notes are always handed over to another clerk.

COURT . Q. Suppose Mr. Robinson had paid 140 l . in money, and the

rest in bank, what sum would the prisoner enter in his money book? A. 140 l . the amount of cash—If that was all the cash received it would be a proper entry.

The prisoner handed in a petition for a lenient sentence, stating that his wife had been affected for two years with paralyais.

(Effingham Wilson, of the Royal Exchange, bookseller; James Atkin son, of St. Mildred-court, bill-broker; Isaac Avely, Branden-row, New ington-butts, accountant; Henry Bardwell, of Holborn-bridge, woollen draper; Thomas Lane, of St. Paul's Church-yard, trunk-maker; James Toplis, of St. Paul's Church-yard, auctioneer; James Tane, of Lad-Lane, bricklayer; and Edward Tucker, Queen-street, Cheapside, printer; de posed to the prisoner's good character.)

GUILTY upon the two first Counts only. —Aged 45.

(The Jury stated, there being no evidence to prove that the money ever got into the prosecutor's possession, they acquitted the prisoner on the counts of stealing .)

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

2067. NICHOLAS POWERS , JUSTINE INNES , and JOSEPH BENGE were indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of August , 8 pounds 4 ounces of copper, value 8 s ., the goods of Richard Hughes , their master; the said Joseph Benge having been before convicted of felony: and JOHN LINNEY for feloniously receiving the same, knowing it to be stolen.

MR. BODKIN conducted the Prosecution.

JOHN MINCHIN . I was in the employ of Mr. Hughes, a copper-plate engraver—Powers, Innes, and Benge were in his employ—this copper-plate, weighing for pounds eight ounces, was taken in the course of August, from my master's premises—Benge brought it out in his apron, and gave it to me—I took it to the prisoner Linney's house—he said me 4 s . for it himself, by weight, at 6 d . a pound—I brought the money to Powers, who divided it among us four.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Has the copper been scraped? A. Yes.

JAMES CARTER . I am policeman. On the 22nd of August, in conse quence of information, I stopped a cart in Perry's-mews—Linney was driving it—I searched two bags in the cart, and found the copper now pro duced among a quantity of other copper—I asked Linney how he became in possession of this—he said, "I can give a good account of it; I bought it of Mr. Welling, in Gray's-inn-lane"—the sacks were open before him when he said so—as I was taking him to the station-house, he said he would give me any money if I would let him take part of it out, or let him go—I had him in custody then—he was taken before a Magistrate, and re manded till Tuesday, the 25th—the matter was then gone into and he was fined 5 l . and the copper detained.

Cross-examined Q. Were you before the Magistrate on this occasion? A. Yes; I did not there state that he said he would give me any money to let him go, or take out some of the copper—It did not come to my memory then, but it did directly after—I have kept it in my money ever since—I did not name it on the last trial—I do not know why—I have not invented it since—the question was not asked me on the last trial—this copper was here at the last trial, but was not produced.

MR. BODKIN . Q. What shop does Linney keep? A. A marine-store shop—I stopped him within three hundred yards of his shop.

RICHARD HUGHES . I am a copper-plate ecgraver and live in Peterbo rough-court, Fleet-street—the three prisoners and Minchin worked with me—I have lost copper plates, which have been takes by my workmen—this is my copper-plat, it is in a state for the hammer—the lining made across it is for those portions to be taken off till we come to the pure metal—It is worth 1 s . 1 d . a pound.

Cross-examined. Q. We understand the copper produced was here at the last trial? A. It was here, but not produced—I have preferred three bills against the prisoners by the advice of my solicitor—that is for copper which was in a bag at the last trial, but not what was produced—It was not included in the last indictment—I have not prederred a new bill for the copper which was disposed of then.

COURT . Q. Have you reckoned any thing on the value of the copper on account of the preparation for your business? A. Not a farthing; I have reckoned it merely as new copper—any person conversant with the business must know immediately that this was new copper, and no person could take it for old metal.

JOHN WELLING . I am ironmonger, and live in Gray's-inn-lane, I know Linney—I am sure I never sold him that 6 plate—I do deal in new copper.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you sell him any copper? A. I have sold him old copper—I cannot say exactly how much, but should think about one hundred-weight—It was returned to him at Marlborough-street, in my presence—the rest was detained, he was fined for all the rest, I believe.

COURT . Q. To a person conversant with copper, is it not quite plain that this is new? A. Not quite; in consequence of its being discoloured, I am not prepared to say this has not been worn—It is marked very much—I think it is very possible he might be deceived—6 d . or 7 d . is a very fair price for old copper—I should think it a fair price for this if it was pur chased for old.

Q. Remember you have been examined before; would you have bought that for old copper at 6 d . a pound? A. I might have been deceived and bought it if it was offered at 6 d . a pound—I might have a doubt about it under some circumstances—If I knew the party it came from I might buy it at 6 d . if they said, "I am no longer going to remain in business, and wish to sell, "I should buy it—I would not buy it of a stranger as old copper.

JOHN MINCHIN re-examined. I have been to Linney's shop to sell cop per, Suppose, six or seven times.

Linney's Defence. I know nothing of either of the prisoners or of Minchin—I must have bought the copper among other pieces which I had in my cart at the time the policeman took me—he says I was driving in stead of which the cart stood in the gateway, and the policeman was up in the cart when I came—he questioned me—I said I bought great deal of it of Welling, but it was impossible I could give an account of every piece—I was taken before it was impossible I could give an account of every piece—I was taken before a Magistrate, remanded three days, and brought up all the people I could to identify the copper I had bought of them and for what I could not give an account of I was fined 5 l . and discharged. I be lieve the copper now produced was included in the other indictment; for I was indicted for forty-three pounds.

HENRY PHILLIPS . I am second clerk at the Police-office, Marylebone—Linney

was brought before Mr. Shutt—I have a minute of what I take down up—no conviction was drawn up—he was fined 5 l .

LINNEY— GUILTY .— Confined Six Months . See page 774.

POWERS

INNES

BARGE

NOT GUILTY .

NEW COURT .— Monday, September 28, 1835.

Second July, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2068. WILLIAM PAYNE was indicted for stealing on the 17th of September , 1 handkerchief value 3 s ., the goods of William Green , from his person.

WILLIAM GREEN . I live in Nelson-street, On the 17th of September, I was in the City-road, on my way home, and heard a scuffle behind me—I turned and saw my handkerchief lying on the ground—I picked it up, and continued on my walk,—I was presently overtaken by the policeman, who said the prisoner had taken it out of my pocket.

MARTIN DUMPHY . I was at that time a policeman. I was in the City-road about one o'clock, and saw the prisoner with two others follow ing the prosecutor some distance, and then the prisoner put his hand into his pocket and took out his handkerchief—I ran across the road—he dropped it and ran—I pursued and took him.

Prisoner. I was passing by and saw two young men there—I passed by, and the officer came and struck me and knocked me down Witness. I could not be mistakes—I suspected them and watched them.

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Confined Three Months .

2069. DAVID RHODES was indicted for stealing, on the 19th of September , 2 horse-cloths, value 3 l .; 1 breast-cloth, value 2 s .; the goods of John Tilbury .

JOHN TILBURY . I am livery stable keeper in the parish of St. George, Hanover-square. I had several horse-cloths of this description—by were all marked with white lead inside, to show which stable they belonged to—the prisoner had been in my service, but had left me—I know these two horse-cloths and this breast-cloth to be mine.

NEWCOME MASON . I live with Mr. Tilbury. I went the police men to Mr. Sharpe's stables in South Audley-street and found these cloths—the prisoner was in the stable, cleaning out a stall.

GEORGE CAINES ( police-constable C 143.) On the 19th of September, I went to Mr. Sharpe's stables—I found these cloths tied up in a hand kerchief, which the prisoner owned as his—he had left Mr. Tilbury a month or five weeks.

Prisoner's Defence. I took them to sleep on—I sent two other cloths for these.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Transported for Seven Years .

2070. RICHARD ROACH was indicted for stealing on the 22nd of September , 3 Stanhope wheels, value 15 s .; and 1 paid of hames, value 1 s . 6 d . the goods of Elizabeth Burnard , his mistress.

GEORGE BURNARD . I am the son of Elizabeth Burnard; she is a coach-marker. The prisoner was in her employ—on the 22nd of September I ran out after the prisoner—I saw him in the act of wheeling away a

Stanhope wheel—he put it against a wall near two other wheels, opposite a marine-store shop, kept by Gibson—he then came back, and I gave him into custody—he craved forgiveness of my mother—I found the hames at Mr. Gibson's—they are my mother's, and the wheels also.

DAVID GIBSON . I live in Henry-street, Hampstead-road. I deal in marine stores—we bought these hames of the prisoner about a fortnight ago for old iron, at one half-penny a pound—It came to 2 s .—It was covered with mould and dirt—I was cleaning it in the morning, and the prisoner came and brought a wheel for sale—said I would not have it—he put it down in the street—I went and told Mrs. Burnard's foreman of it.

THOMAS BALMARD ( police-constable S 108.) I took the prisoner in the shop—he asked his mistress to forgive him, on account of his family.

Prisoner's Defence. I was first engaged at 16 s . per week; they then reduced my wages to 10 s .; they then said they could not give me more than 8 s .; and I took these things because they docked my wages.

GUILTY . Aged 45.— Confined Two Months .

2071. JOHN BOOTE and GEORGE DAVIDSON were indicted for stealing on the 24th of September , 4 1/2 lbs. of mutton, value 2 s .; and 1lb. of beef, value 6 d .; the goods of Mary Jackson , the mistress of the said John Boote.

WILLIAM JACKSON . I am a butcher. I manage the business for my mother. Mary Jackson who lives in Titchfield-street—the prisoner Boote was in her employ—I received an anonymous letter, and on the morning of the 24th of September, I went into the shop, and looked into a basket which belonged to Davidson—I believe he had it in his hand—I found in it three pieces of mutton and one piece of beef—It weighted 5 1/2 lbs., and was all good and saleable—I told Davidson we had been waiting for him, and he should have all the law could give him—my brother called the officer, and we gave him into custody—I saw a sixpence and sixpenny-worth of half-pence of the ledge of the bar—the meat was worth half-a-crown—Boote was authorized to sell, and if he sold, he might have put the money at the ledge; but this was very early, before the shop was open.

JAMES JACKSON . I placed myself opposite my mother's shop that morning, and held an umbrella before my face—at five or six minutes before six o'clock, I saw the prisoner Davidson come down the street, with a flag-basket under his arm—by the description I had seen in a letter. I supposed him to be the man I wanted—he went to my mother's door, and tapped; but receiving no answer, he went on; and then came back, and stopped till Boote, who was my mother's foreman, looked out and Davidson walked in—I crossed over; and before I got across, Davidson ran out, and was walking up the street—I said, "You have been robbing my mother"—I drove him back to the door; and as soon as Boote saw me he ran back, and put something on the window-ledge—Davidson had a basked of meat on his arm, which was worth half-a-crown at least—I called my brother, and he told me to get the officer.

Boote . Davidson came and asked me to let him have sixpenny-worth of pieces—I gave him a small piece of mutton and beef—he then asked for sixpenny-worth more—I said, "Here is a bit of beef you may have for 6 d —he paid me a sixpence, and sixpenny-worth of copper—the meat was not worth half-a-crown. Witness. It was worth half-a-crown at least.

JURY . Q. What was it? A. A piece of the best end of a neck a mutton, a breast of mutton, a bit of loin, and a piece of beef—they were

quite fresh, and would have sold for the same price as a piece cut off—It was not cut nor weighed—there were no weights in the scale—they were not such pieces as we sell cheap to poor people.

THOMAS MOORE ( police-constable E 18.) I was called, and took the prisoner and the meat.

Davidson's Defence . I have had a paralytic stroke, and received 2 s . a week from the parish—I used to go and job for any person—I had to beat a carpet, and went to the shop early and bought this meat—I have had more than that for a shilling of Mrs. Jackson, many a time.

(Richard Constantine, and Mrs. Russell, gave Boote a good character.)

BOOTE— GUILTY . Aged 27.— Transported for Seven Years .

DAVIDSON— GUILTY . Aged 53.— Confined Six Months .

2071. SARAH HEWETT was indicted for stealing on the 18th of September 1 gown, value 4 s .; and 1 shift, value 1 s . 6 d .; the goods of George Clement .

ELIZABETH CLEMENT . I am the wife of George Clement. On the 18th of September, I hung a gown and a shift on a line in my passage to dry, at four o'clock in the afternoon—I afterwards received information and found my shift at a pawnbroker's—I then went to No. 21, Crown-street, where I saw my gown hanging out of the window—I told the constable; and we waited till we saw the prisoner take the gown in, and she was coming down with it ijn her hand—I had seen them safe at eleven o'clock on Thursday evening and missed them at eight o'clock on Friday morning—I found the gown, with the prisoner at eleven o'clock that morning.

GEORGE EDWARD NEEDES . I am a pawnbroker. I produce this shift which I took in of the prisoner, I believe, before twelve o'clock, on the 18th of September.

JOSEPH BOLTON ( police-constable F 6.) I went with the prosecutor, and saw this gown hung out of the window—the prisoner then came down with it in her hand.

Prisoner. I never entered her premises—I went to the Middlesex Hospital with my son, and bought the gown and shift of a woman for 1 s —she said if whe could get the 1 s ., she would come and fetch them—I know the woman by sight, and had I my liberty I have no doubt I could find her.

GUILTY . Aged 40.— Transported for Seven Years .

2072. SOPHIA SANDERS was indicted for stealing on the 23rd of September , 1 pair of shoes, value 7 s ., the goods of Robert Bryant .

CHARLES BENNETT . I am in the employ of Mr. Robert Bryant, a shoe maker, in Tottenham-court-road. On the 23rd of September, the prisoner came and asked the price of a pair of shoes—I said seven shillings—she said, would they be so much as that?—I called my mistress down, who asked her what price she would like—she said, "About six shillings and six pence"—I was going to show her some and she said, "Never mind; I will bring my son on Monday"—she then went away; and the policeman brought this pair of shoes in about a quarter of an hour—they are my master's.

EDWARD RAMSHIRE ( police-constable E 58.) I was in Tottenham-court-road between four and five o'clock. I saw the prisoner with these shoes under her right arm—I took them back to the prosecutor—she appeared to have been drinking.

Prisoner's Defence. I do not know how I came by them—I had been

at a person's house who had given me whiskey, and when I get a little drink I lose my reason—I get my living by teaching music.

GUILTY . Aged 37.— Recommended to mercy by the Jury. Confined Eight Days .

2073. MARY JONES was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of Sep tember , in the dwelling-house of William Soffe , 1 tea-pot, value 15 l .; 1 sugar-basin, value 7 l .; and 1 milk-ewer, value 3 l .; the goods of William Soffe , her master.

WILLIAM SOFFE . I live in Southampton-street, in the parish of St. Martin-in-the-fields. the prisoner was in any service—on the 11th of September, about three o'clock, I saw my silver tea-pot and basin and ewer safe, in a chest of drawers in my bed-room—I left town that even ing, returned on the 15th—when I came home the prisoner was there, and remained about three hours—she then went on an errand, which need not have taken her three minutes, and she did not return for an hour and a half—I felt exceedingly angry, and she then went away—I did not miss this property till last Tuersday evening—this is it—It is worth about 25 l .

Prisoner. My master sent word if I would tell where the property was, he would not prosecute me. Witness. I certainly did not—her husband is man I have known for fourteen or fifteen or fifteen years, and I have been a friend to him—when I discovered my loss, I went to Bow-street, and the officer came—we had her husband in, and questioned him—he said his wife was gone out of town, or to service, he did not know which—he was taken to Bow-street, and locked up for a short time, but I believe he had no knowledge of the robbery—I then told him that his character depended upon his exerting himself to find where the property was, and he returned in about two hours, and told me where it was pledged.

JOHN SELL . I am shopman to a pawnbroker in Frith-street, Covent-garden. On the 14th of September, the prisoner came and brought five or six duplicates of things which she wanted to redeem—the articles amounted to 4 l . 14 s . 8 d ., and she gave me this tea-pot, sugar-basin. and ewer—she said she brought them from Mrs. Lee, of Norfolk-street, and she only wanted 5 l . on them, which would cover the advance on the things that were pledged—she came the next day, and had 30 s . more on them—we knew that she had lived with Mrs. Lee, who had pledged with us, and her for mer mistress had brought her to our shop, and said she would send her with things.

JURY . Q. Had she ever pawned things of this value before? A. Yes.

Prisoner's Defence. I did it with a view of getting them out again—I was in distress.

GUILTY . Aged 27.— Transported for Life .

2074. GEORGE KING was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of Sep tember , 1 basket, value 2 s . 6 d ., and 6 peeks of water-cresses, value 4 s . the goods of Richard Deprose Letton .

THOMAS BALLARD . I live at No. 9, East-street, Red-lion-street, Spi talfields. I unpacked a basket of water-cresses on the 18th of September, at a little before eight o'clock, they belonged to Richard Deprose Letton—I missed teo baskets in a short time—I went to the station, and saw this basket, which belonged to the prosecutor.

JAMES TRACY ( police-constable H 132.) I was on duty in Red-lion-street

about nine o'clock on that morning and saw the prisoner going along with this basket—I ran after him, and he dropped it.

Prisoner. I was hired by a man to carry it.

NOT GUILTY .

2075. MARTHA PRIEST was indicted for receiving, on the 5th of August , various articles, the property of Thomas Bell , well knowing the same to have been stolen, against the Statute, &c.

The same evidence was given in this case as in page 848.

NOT GUILTY .

2076. JAMES SAWKINS was indicted for stealing, on the 3rd of Sep tember , 1 shawl, value 4 s .; 1 thimble, value 6 d .; 1 handkerchief, value 2 s .; 1 ring, value 4 s .; 1 thimble, value 6 d .; 4 half-crowns, and sixpence in copper, the goods and monies of Emily Woodhouse , from her person.

The prosecutrix did not appear.

NOT GUILTY .

2077. THOMAS JONES was indicted for stealing, on the 12th of Au gust , a quarter of a yard of woollen cloth, value 8 s . 6 d .; the goods of Abra ham Russell , and another, his masters; and JOHN WAITE was indicted for feloniously receiving the same, well-knowing it to have been stolen, against the Statue, &c.

ABRAHAM RUSSELL . I have one partner. The prisoner Jones lived er rand-boy with us for about twleve months—on the 13th of Auguest, I missed a quarter of a yard of fine woollwn cloth—I went with the officer to Waite's house, after I had questioned Jones.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE . Q. Had you not therntened Jones, and told him to tell the truth? A. Yes; I thrashed him with the cane.

COURT . Q. When you arrived at Waite's what passed? A. We asked Waite if he had bought a piece of black cloth, of a little boy, on the Wednesday (this was on Friday)—he said he had not bought a piece of block of any body—but he had bought a piece of green, which he had sold again on the Thursday—we then asked if he had bought any black of any boy—he said he had bought some that week—I asked him to produce a piece, which I described as about a quarter of a yard or rather more, and cut across the piece—he said, he had no such piece in his shop—the officer turned to the counter where a boundle of black laid—he opened it, and I identified a piece, as very much like the one I had lost—I compared it with the piece that it was cut off, and it fitted exactly.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Did not waite point out the bun dle in which you found this? A. No; he brought it after the officer saw it—I then went home to compare it, and when I returned Waite was still there.

NOT GUILTY .

2078. HENRY GORDEN was indicted for stealing, on the 15th of August , 1 ten-kettle, value 10 s .; 1 pair of candlesticks, value 6 s .; 12 knives, value 10 s .; 12 forks, value 10 s .; 1 pair of snuffers and tray, value 10 s .; 20 bell cranks, value 2 s .; 3 pair of plyers, value 5 s .; 2 locks, value 2 s .; 2 hammer heads, value 2 s .; 68 keys, value 1 l .; 1 tea pot, value 6 s .; 1 pair of seissors, value 1 s . 6 d .; 4 gimlets, value 1 s . 6 d .; 2 hinges, value 4 d . 4 key rings, value 2 s . 6 d .; and 1 castor, value 1 s . 6 d .; the goods of George Beach , his master.

The Presecutor did not appear.

NOT GUILTY .

2079. MARY VARLEY was indicted for a misdemeanour.

NOT GUILTY .

ESSEX LARCENIES , &c.

Second Jury, before Mr. Recorder. .

2080. JOHN CLARKE was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of August , 5 towels, value 5 s .; 1 shirt, value 3 s .; 2 aprons, value 2 s .; the goods of John Capper ; and 1 gown, value 7 s .; 1 apron, value 1 s .; and 1 shift, value 2 s .; the goods of Ann King .

PHINEAS BUTLER . On Tuesday the 25th of August, about two o'clock, I was near Bow Bridge, and saw the prisoner and two other men come out of Essex—they saw me and separated—the prisoner went into a public-house—the other went towards the church—the prisoner had a basket of linen in his possession, and I apprehended him with it.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Did you say any thing to him? A. When I saw him turn into the passage of the public-house—I asked what he had got—he said, "Some linen"—he did not say he had found it in the forest—I swear that I asked where he brought it from—he said his mother lived at Stratford, and he was taking it to Oldford—I said, "It is wet, and you must go to the station-house"—I did not tell the Magistrate that the prisoner had been tried before, or was an old offender, or had been in Horsemonger-lane goal—I never saw him before in my life—any body must have seen the basket.

ANN KING . I am servant to Mr. Capper, of Whips-cross, Walthamstow. On the 25th of August, I left these articles in the meadow to dry—the gown and apron are mine—the towels and one sheet belong to John Capper.

Cross-examined. Q. Is the meadow near the forest? A. Yes; I never saw the prisoner before—our house is four miles from Bow-bridge, and op posite the forest—one side of the field leads on the forest.

(The prisoner received a good character.).

NOT GUILTY .

Third Jury, before Mr. Baron Gurney. .

2081. THOMAS GALE was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of Sep tember , 1 gelding, value 10 l . the property of George Austen .

GEORGE AUSTEN . On Friday the 4th of September, I was at Barnet fait—I took a gelding there with several other horses, and at half-past six o'clock in the evening I placed them in a field near Barnet, which I hired during the fair—there is a gate to the field, which I locked, and left them secure—I missed a brown gelding next morning—the gate was taken off the hinges, and the gelding taken away—I pursued, and found it on the forest at Walthamstow, with the hair plucked out of its tail, and the mark the letter T on the off-shoulder, cut out, as well as it could—but it was visible—I took possession of it.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE . Q. When had you bought the horse? A. I bought it in Wales about three weeks before I placed it in the field—I had been travelling with it on the road, till then—I clipped the letter T on it, because it is an easy mark to clip—I do it in all my cattle—I lost it on Friday night, and found it on the Sunday following, grazing on the forest—the tail was not cut, only the hair.

JAMES PATMORE . I am one of the police-constables of Walthamstow—I saw the prisoner on the 5th of September, with a horse on the forest—he had got his arm round its neck. leading it to water—he sometimes

lives at Walthamstow, and sometimes elsewhere—he has no particular place—I believe the pony was in Layton parish—that is the adjoining parish to Walthmstow—It was between one and two o'clock in the day that I saw him—I did not speak to him—I went across to the horse, and looked at it about twenty minutes afterwards, when he was gone away from it, and saw the letter T cut on the off-shoulder—It was disfigured, but I could still make out that it was a T—I saw the horse again on Sunday, between four and five o'clock—Austen had got it in his possession then—It was the same horse as I saw the prisoner have, with his arm round its neck—I took the prisoner into custody on Sunday the 6th—Austen gave him in charge—I found him at Shedricks beer-shop, on the forest, right opposite where the pony was—Austen sent for me, and when I came up, I found the prisoner with him, at the beer-shop—when I went in, the prisoner asked me if I saw him on the Saturday with the pony, I said, "Yes, I saw you with your arms round its neck, leading it to the water; and after that you turned it off again"—he said, "No, I did not, nobody saw me with the pony, I never touched it. ".

Cross-examined. Q. Then Saturday the 5th was the day, was it? A. Yes; between one and two o'clock—I have always said that was the time—I was on duty on the forest—I had my uniform on—In twenty minutes or half an hour after he took it to water that I went across to the pony, but the prisoner was gone to the beer-shop then; he was between fifty and sixty yards from me when I first saw him with it—I do not believe he saw me—the horse was by itself when I went and looked at it, it was feeding about the spot where he had turned it off to feed—I had never seen it be fore that day—It was a gelding pony, about thirteen and a half hands high.

SAMUEL HIGGIN . I am a bricklayer, and live at Walthamstow. On Saturday the 5th of September, I saw the prisoner on the road which leads from Chingford to Walthamstow, riding a horse—he got off and walked a little way, and led it—then got up and rode again—It was between six and seven in the morning—he was coming towards Walthamstow—It was a small dark brown horse—I did not see it again till the Monday morning following, when it was at the Crooked Billet—the man was taking it to the Magistrate—It was after the prisoner was taken up—Austen was there—It was the same horse aas I had seen the prisoner leading and riding.

Cross-examined. Q. Pray, was it quite light? A. Quite light—I saw the horse very plain—he was riding at first—he got off, and led the horse on the near side of a hay-cart, going towards London—I stopped, and noticed him after he passed me, and he got up again and rode—I noticed him, and also the horse—I swear it was the identical horse that I saw on the Monday.

Prisoner. I do not know any thing about it.

(William Warr, corn-dealer; Job Kidner, butcher; and Sarah Cole, widow, all of Walthamstow, gave the prisoner a good character.).

GUILTY . Aged 21.— Transported for Life .

First Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2082. JOSEPH STONE was indicted for stealing, on the 26th of August , 1 cow, value 6 l .; the property of George William Gent , Esq.—2nd COUNT , stating it to belong to Alexander McKenzie .—3rd COUNT , stating it to belong to Henry Courtney , since deceased.

Upon which no evidence was offered.

NOT GUILTY .

Second Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2083. ELIZABETH SPEARS was indicted for feloniously receiving, on the 5th of September , 1 cloak, value 5 s .; 3 coats, value 1 l .; 2 pair of trowsers, value 5 s .; 1 dressing-case, value 5 s .; 1 umbrella, value 2 s .; and 8 printed books, value 10 s .; the goods of John Jasper Boreham , well knowing them to have been feloniously stolen against the statute &c.

LYDIA BOREHAM . I am the wife of John Jasper Boreham, and live at Rateliff. On the 4th of September, I delivered a box to Lewis Buckeridge, the Epping carrier, which contained the property stated—these are the articles.

LOUIS BUCKERIDGE . I am a carrier. I received the box from this lady to take to Epping—on the 5th of September, a person, named John Lay, asked to ride in my cart, which he did—when he was gone. I missed this box from behind the cart—I do not know what had been in it—this is the box.

JOHN EMMERSON . I received information, and went to the prisoner's lodging at Woodford—I heard that Lay lodged there—I found the pri soner—I asked if she knew any thing about the loss of the box, or the contents of it—she said she did not—I found the box in a shed, a little distance from her house—I went to her again in the evening, and asked her if she knew nothing about what was in the box, as I had traced it to her house, and likewise from her house—she said, she did not know about it—I then went to the door, and heard her draw something from under her bed, and she threw down stairs abag, containing these articles.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. How do you know she did not begin to search directly? A. I do not know that she did not—I traced the box to her house by a man's footsteps—I have looked after Lay, but I cannot find him.

HANNAH ATKINSON . I live in the same house with the prisoner After the officer was gone, the prisoner took this umbrella from under the bed, and gave it to me—she said sha had forgotten to give it up—Lay had lodgeed in the hay-loft, but he has run away.

Cross-examined Q. Had she not a good character? A. Yes; up to this time—she is a widow.

Prisoner's Defence. I am not guilty.

COURT to JOHN EMERSON . Q. Do you know Dr. Robinson's writing? A. Yes; to the best of my belief, the signature to this deposition is his writing. ( Read .)—"The prisoner says, I found the umbrella and bag under John Lay's bed—I took them, and put them under my own—when John Emerson came the second time, I was gone into the coach-house—I chucked the bag down stairs. "

NOT GUILTY

KENT LARCENIES , &c.

Third Jury, before Mr. Sergeant Arabin.

2084. MARY WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing, on the 17th of August , 3 pints of wine, value 18 s .; 2 glass bottles, value 6 d .; 6 pairs of stockings, value 18 s .; 1 gown, value 3 l .; and 1 cap, value 2 d .; the goods of Samuel Ritchie , her master.

MARY RITCHIE . I am the wife of Samuel Ritchie, and live at Black heath. The prisoner was my housemaid for about five weeks—on the morn ing of the 18th of August, I missed, as I was preparing to go out of town, a variety of artoicles—we had not given her warning; but on missing the things, I sent for an officer, who found some of the property in her trunk, and the rest was found a few days afterwards, tied up in a bundle, in a turbot-kettle—I found two bottles of wine concealed and half a bottle of sherry in her box—the corks had our wine-merchant's name on them—we kept our cellar locked.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Were you present when the things were found? A. Yes.

EDWARD VINCENT . I am a policeman. I was sent for on the 18th of August—I found the prisoner very much intoxicated—I charged her with having her mistress's property—she denied it—I said I should search her box—she gave me the keys, and Mrs. Ritchie went with me to the box—I found part of a bottle of sherry and two pairs of white stockings—the prisoner brought a bundle of her dirty clothes down-stairs about half an hour after, and in it I found a net cap—I found this small piece of a gown on her.

Cross-examined Q. She was very tipsy? A. Yes; she confessed it two hours and a half after, when she was sober—she gave me the keys of her trunk.

MRS. RITCHIE re-examined. This is part of the gown I lost—It was worth more thab 3 l .—the other articles are mine, and I believe the wine to be mine.

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Transported for Seven Years .

There was another indictment against the prisoner.

Third Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2085. LAWRENCE HEBDEN was indicted for stealing, on the 13th of September , 100 lbs , weight of lead, value 20 s ., the goods of Thomas Beck , being fixed to a certain building.

WILLIAM JAMES ( police-constable R 83.) On the 14th of September, about one o'clock in the morning, I was on duty in Trundley's-lane, and saw the prisoner sitting in a ditch with another one, or I think two—I listened to their conversation, and went up to them and asked what they were doing there—they said they lodged at Mr. Davies's, who lived close by—I said I thought it was not proper to sit there—I got into the ditch, and they rushed away from me—I found a quantity of lead in the ditch—I took the prisoner afterwards; his companion escaped—I returned to the ditch and found msome more lead—It was afterwards applied to a house belonging to Mr. Beck and fitted—It appeared recently cut from the side of a chimney—It correspond in quantity with what wsa lost—It supplied the deficiency and fitted the place—I did not lose sight of the prisoner.

GEORGE SOLE ( police-constable R 174.) On the day in question, on an alarm from James, I went to his assistance. I found him holding the prisoner in a meadow, near Trundley's-lane—I went to the ditch and found one large piece of lead—I should think it weighed tewenty pounds—I saw several other pieces found—the prisoner told me it came from a house, and said there were three of them in company, and the other two had got away.

Prisoner. I was sitting on the ground, and had my hands strapped behind me when he came up—the policeman had not hold of me—I did not

tell him it came off a house. Witness. He did—his arms were not strap ped behind him when I came up, nor afterwards.

BENJAMIN LOVELL ( police-sergeant R 15.) I observed the roof of a house in Trundley-lane, on Tuesday afternoon, the 15th—It was about fifty yards from the ditch the lead was found in—one piece of lead was on the house, fastened with holdfasts, and fits to what was found in the ditch—a great quantity was taken from the house—It is in the parish of St. Paul, Deptford, in Kent.

JOSEPH BECK . I live in Medway-place, Deptford, I examined the roof of a house in Trundley-lane, on the Thursday—I have seen the lead—It formed part of the roof, and matched with what was left on the roof—Thomas Beck, my father, is the owner of the house.

(John Page, of Cranbrook-place, Millpond-bridge, gave the prisoner a good character.)

GUILTY . Aged 17.— Recommended to mercy . — Confined One Year .

Before Mr. Recorder.

2086. WILLIAM INGRAM and SARAH INGRAM were indicted for feloniously receiving, on the 7th of September , at Greenwich , 105lbs. weight of copper, value 5 l ., the goods of the Commissioners of Greenwich Hospital , well knowing it to have been feloniously stolen, against the Statute.—11 other Counts/, varying the manner of laying the charge.

MESSRS. BODKIN and POULDEN conducted the Prosecution.

WILLIAM SIVELL . I am labourer in trust at Greenwich Hospital. On Monday, the 7th of September, I was at the infirmary of the Hospital, at noon—there was some alteration being made in the roof at the time—there were three plumbers and three labourers employed in stripping the copper; Marshall, Marriot, and Emmet were the plumbers, and the three laboureres I saw go away at noon—they appeared very bulky—I thought there was something under their jackets, and followed them into No. 4, Thames-street—I saw them go into the side door—I waited about two minutes, and saw Williams the labourer come out—I did not see how the door was opened—I was the others come out afterwards, and speak to Wil liams—I afterwards saw the three plumbers come out; Emmett came out first—I saw Marriot counting money as he came out—I immediately went in by the side of them, before the door closed; when I got inside, I saw Mrs. Ingram standing at her inner door—I asked her to let me look inside—she asked what my business was—I said I wanted to look inside—she said she could not, as her husband was not at home—I said if I could not look in by fair means, I must by foul—she stood with her back to the door—she appeared alarmed, and allowed me to look inside, which I did, and saw six pieces of sheet copper lying on the floor; I asked her how she came by it—she said these four men had brought it in, and left it—I asked if she weighed it—she said, "No"—I asked if she had paid any money for it—she said not—I weighed it, and it was 105lbs. I sent for Mr. Lee, the clerk of the works—I remained in possession of the premises till he arrived—he looked at the copper, and fetched two policemen, who came and took charge of it, and took Mrs. Ingram into custody—I afterwards compared the copper with the copper on the premises—It corre sponded on every respect with the place it was taken from—It corresponded with the copper which was taken off the infirmary roof, in quality, colour, and thickness, and several marks in it show where it had laid upon the

boards—the men left their employ the same day, and never returned—about a out a ton and a half of copper of this description has been missed from the roof of the infirmary—Ingram is a plumber and glazier—I do not know of his dealing in copper.

JAMES HINES ( police-constable R 95.) On the day in question I went to the prisoner's house, and took possession of six pieces of sheet copper, which I produce—they weigh 105lbs.—Ingram is a plumber, and does not deal in copper.

THOMAS OLDHAM . I am a labourer, and was employed in September in stripping the copper off the roof of the infirmary at Greenwich Hospi tal—I lapped the copper up, and put it by the side of the dormer to throw down to take it to the store-room—I saw the copper found on Ingram's premises at the office—It is the same description of copper—It is something like it, that is, about the same colour, but I cannot swear it is the same.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. I suppose there are hundreds and thousands of pieces of the same colour as this? A. Yes, there is a great deal.

WILLIAM THOMAS . I am inspector of the R division of police. In con sequence of information, I went to Ingram's house, on Tuesday, the 8th of September, after the copper had been removed—the house is at the corner of a road, leading to the water side, called Bishop's-place—the shop is being fitted up for a plumber and glazier—there was a quantity of glass and things in the front shop—there is a door in Thames-street, in the usual way—I went down Bishop's-place, and found a side entrance—that is a very wide door, large enough to admit a cart—when you look at the door, at first it appears to be all one door; but on examining the side of the posts, I discovered a bit of brass, and on pressing my foot on that I found part of the door flew open, so as to admit a man—without that there did not appear a small door in the large one—on going in at that door, I found myself under a shed, with earth for the floor—I afterwards searched under the earth—I went into the workshops adjoining the shed, and removed a box or drawer which stood there with heavy tools in it, and found there was a trap-door—It is in the room adjoining the shed—the trap-door slanted down to a brick vault under the shed, woth boards at the top, and earth over the boards—there is no means of getting to that vault, but through the shoot I have described—the shoot is in the workshop behind the front shop—there was a furnace in the shop—I searched all over the premises, and found property whitch forms the subject of another indict ment—the maleprisoner gave himself into my custody on Sunday week last, at Deptford—he said he had had the advice of his solicitor, who ad vised him to surrender, and his doing so he hoped would be the means of saving his wife, as she was perfectly innocent.

COURT to WILLIAM SIVELL . Q. How closely did you fellow in after these people? A. Immediately; I did not lose sight of them for half a minute—they went through the side door—I did not see them press against the brass, but that was the door they entered at—the property was found within a yard of the spot; but there is a small party-wall which concealed it from me—I went in at the door in the wall, which Mrs. Ingram put her back against.

NOT GUILTY .

2087. WILLIAM INGRAM and SARAH INGRAM were again indicted for feloniously receiving, on the 9th of September , at Greenwich , 3000lbs. weight of copper, value 100 l ., 2900lbs. weight of lead, value 10 l .; 3 pair of flanches, value 20 s .; 2 metal bends, value 10 s .; 1 pair of shoes, value 3 s .; and 3 quires of paper, value 1 s .; the goods of the Commissioners of Greenwich Hospital ; and 3 pair of flanches, value 20 s .; and 2 metal bends, value 10 s ., the goods of John Braithwaite , and others; well know ing the same to have been feloniously stolen, against the Statue.

WILLIAM THOMAS . I am a police-inspector. On the 8th of Septemper, I went to No. 4, Thames-street, Greenwich—I entered at the front door—I did not see either of the prisoners there—there is a gate at the side of the house, large enough for a cart and gig to go under—on going it at that gate, I found a shed with an earth floor—on examining the door, I found a piece of brass at the side, and a write attached to it at one end, and the other end attached to the latch—on pressing my foot against this brass, part of the door flew open, large enough to admit a man—I turned into the middle shop, and on examing the floor, discovered a trap-door which led into a vault under the shed—the trap was made in a slanting position, so that a man might slide down on his back; and in the vault I found a large quantity of sheet copper—on weighing it, I found one ton eleven hundredweight and a half of copper, and three ton three hundred weight of sheet lead, and this flanch—all these were in the vault—I after wards went up stairs, and in a small chest of drawers found a quantity of Writing-paper—the drawer was not locked—there was a shop in front of the premises, being fitted up as a plumper and glazier's—I did not perceive any name written up in front.

JOSEPH TITE I am a policeman. I was in charge of the house on the second day—the female prisoner had been taken into custody before that—I never saw the male prisoner near the house—while I was there I found some more paper behind the drawers in the front parlour, and found a brass tap in the yard.

JAMES WILD . I am a policeman. I went to the house on the 7th of Sep tember, and found two copper bends, and two flanches in the back parlour cupboard—I found twenty-five hundredweight of pig lead under the floor of the front shop, and one ton seventeen hundredweight of solder; and under the stairs I found a quantity of brass cocks.

WILLIAM BRAITHWAITE . I am an engineer. I made some flanches for a brewhouse at the Hospital—I supplied them with these—they are made of a peculiar metal; and these two bends were supplied by me to the Hospital—I am in the employ of John Braithwaite.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Are you not in a very exten sive buisness? A. Yes; we supply a great many flanches to different brewers—there is no particular stamp on these, nor on the bends—they are made of copper, tinned over—we call them tin copper bends—I sent four to the Hospital, and I have weighed the two found and the two left, and they agree exactly with the weight charged—I will not swear those I have supplied to other breweries may not weigh the same—I have no mark to denote that they belong to the Hospital—they were furnished in May, 1833, and have never been used—they were put aside until the alternations were complete, by order of the clerk of the works.

MR. BODKIN . Q. Were you backwards and forwards at the hospital? A. Yes; continually.

WILLIAM SIVELL I have examined the sheet copper found on the second day at the prisoner's house, and compared it with that taken by the four men on the first day—to the best of my judgement it tallied exactly, and is part of the copper taken from the roof of the infirmary, to the best of my judge ment—we

had not missed it at the time, but afterwards missed about a ton and a half—I ascertained the loss by referring to the books, to see the quantity laid on the roof, and measuring the roof, to see the quantity it would take—I calculate two tons have been abstracted—the copper found the first day has marks corresponding with the boards, and these bear the same marks.

Cross-examined by CLARKSON . Q. produce what you have compared? A. Here is one piece which I took from the roof myself, and compared with some found in the vault under the shop—I superintend the works at the hospital, and have the care of the property—It is the same sort of copper, and here are some black marks on it—copper varies in quality and thickness—I have no private mark on it—nearly all of it has this black line on it—It is the mark of the rafter—It was taken from the roof of the infirmary—the whole of the copper has been taken off and the roof slated—It was done about two months ago—copper looks different after being exposed to the atmosphere long—this appears just the same as what remains—copper varies two or three ounces in a foot, which makes a dif ferences in the substance.

THOMAS COPE . I am a policeman. I went to the house, and found a pair of shoes there.

JOHN LIVINGSTON JAY . I am chief clerk in the secretary's office at Greenwich Hospital. There are five Commissioners—Mr. Locker is one, and has been so since June 1829—this paper is ruled—when I was before the Magistrate, I compared it with a form used in the hospital,—It is addressed to certain officers in the hospital in a printed form—part of the heading to the columns is torn off—the part left enables me to swear to it, as a form used in the hospital.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS Q. May there not be hundreds of places where the same form is used? A. I should say no place could use such a form—I do not know whether Chelses Hospital may not—the first Com missioner of Woods and Forests and the Treasure of the Navy were ap pointed commissioners at the change of the Administration.

BLACKWELL CARTER . I know these shoes belong to the hospital by the stamp on them, "G. H. "and a crown—they are furnished to the pen sioners—I believe they have been worn.

Cross-examined. Q. Are not pensioners in the habit of selling their shoes? A. I cannot say.

ESTHER MARY PATTISON . I let the house in Thames-street to the male prisoner—he had a lease of it—I gave him posseation a few days after Michaclmas—there was no vault under the back shed at that time, to my knowledge—I had lived there seven years, and never knew of it—I had no spring to open the door, by pressing with the foot, nor any shoot to com municate with a vault.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Did you live in the house your self? A. No; a person named Francis lived there—I lived at No. 1.

MR. BOBKIN . Q. Have you not known the house for seven years? A. Yes; I am the landlady—I did not collect the rent—I have been there occasionally—I never knew of this place.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. I suppose when you went, it was into the par lour? A. Yes; I was there a few days before the prisoner took pos session—I did not examine the lower part of the house—I let it to pearce for a short time, just before the prisoner took possesstion.

WILLIAM JAMES PEARCE . I am an assistant to the water bailiff. I

had the use of these premises for a year and a half—there was no trap-door in the shop, that I knew of—there was nothing but plain earth in the shed—It has been pulled down since I left, and rebuilt—I knew of no vault under it, nor any shoot communicating with one—I never was in the dwelling-house—I occupied the shed and shop only—I left it in June—there was no spring to the door then.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. You do not mean to say there was no vault? A. No; but it was undiscovered by me.

WILLIAM THOMAS re-examined. The shop is a quarter of a mile from the hospital—all the copper was folded in separate pieces of 16 or 18lbs.—workmen might carry it a piece at the time.

(Edward Grillet, lighterman, of Wood-walk; Henry Leach, Church-street, Greenwich; William Bailey, Chiswell-street, Finsbury; William Challis, Church-street, Greenwich;—Broomfield;—Aaron Medway, previous good character.)

WILLIAM INGRAM— GUILTY . Aged 43.

Transported for Fourteen Years .

SARAH INGRAM— NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Justice Williams.

2088. JOHN THOMAS LETHAM was indicted for that he, on the 25th of August , at Greenwich , in and upon Henry William Floyd , felonionsly did make an assault, and unlawfully, &c., did strike and wound him upon the nose, with the intent, feloniously, &c. to kill and murder him.—2nd COUNT , stating his intent to be, to disable, or to do him some grievous bodily harm.

HENRY WILLIAM FLOYD . I am a baker. On the 25th of August, about a quarter to ten o'clock at night I was at the prisoner's house—he is a publican—I called for a pot of half-and-half, which he brought, and did not leave it with me, because he asked for the money before he would de liver it—he took it back immediately—I had no quarrel with him about that—I called for it again—he brought it, and said the same again—I showed him sixpence and threepence, and said if he would give it to me I would pay him for it directly—he took it back again—he came into the tap-room after, without the beer—I said to the waiter, " Bob , bring me the pot of half-and-half"—he did so—I drank it—the prisoner made no objection to it—that was almost directly after—It was the same pot that the prisoner had brought—he left it standing on the bar—I was in t he tap-room, close against the bar—I asked the prisoner to drink, and he would not—I asked him again, two or three times—I then told him if he did not drink, I would throw some of it over him, and I did so—there was not much left at that time—four of us had drank—I do not think there was half a pint left—he was standing close by me at the time, against the tap-room door, about half a yard from me—I threw it over him, in to his face, and he directly stabbed me with a knife—he did it the instant I threw it over him—he stabbed me with his right hand directly—I did not see where he got the knife—he did not fetch it from any where—there was no time for that—It was done at the instant—the wust have had the knife in his hand—I was stabbed on the side of the nose—the knife remained in my nose—after he stabbed me I turned round—he had run at me, and caught hold of me by the face—there was a bit of a seullle—I directly turned round and said to Harris, "See what the raseal has done—he has stabbed me"—Harris tried to pull

the knife out of my face, and then I tried, and pulled the handle off, but the blade remained in my face—I directly ran to Mr. Watts the chymist—It was there pulled out with a pair of pincers—after he stabbed me, he had ran and caught hold of my face—I tried to get from him, and struck him in the face, to get away from him—we had no scuflle before I was stabbed, but what I have mentioned—I had known him for about two years, but never had a quarrel with him.

WILLIAM CHAMBERS . I was the prisoner's house on the night in question, near Floyd, in the tap-room—he called for a pot of half-and-half, which the prisoner brought and put down—Floyd asked him to trust him—he said he would not, and took it back—Floyd called for it again—he brought it and took it back again—the waiter came in, and Floyd got it from him—we all four drank round—I was sitting with him—the prisoner saw me drinking—Floyd asked the prisoner to drink, but he would not—he asked him a second time—he would not, and then Floyd threw the remainder over him—he had said, if he would not drink, he would do so—the prisoner was very close to him indeed at that time, and as the prosecutor threw the beer in his face, the pot went within nine or ten inches of his face—they then immediatly both closed in a fighting kisd of manner, in a kind of rally—I saw Floyd throw the prisoner on the seat, and stike him several times in the face while he was down on the seat; and all on a sudden, Floyd jumped back and said, "Look here, look here"—I had seen no sign of stabbing until that time—I was quite close to him—when he turned back and said, "Look here, "the knife was in h is face—I did not see it until after the scuffle.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. Had the prisoner been eating his supper of bread and cheese just before this happened? A. Yes; and used the knife for that purpose three or four minutes before they came in.

NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

2089. HENRY BAKER was indicted for breaking and entering the dewelling-house of Sophia Baker , on the 19th of September , at St. Paul, Deptford , and stealing therein 2 sovereigns, and 1 5 l . Bank-note; the monies and property of John Shirt .

JOHN SHIRT . I had a 5 l . note two sovereigns in a deal box—I placed it in the care of Mrs. Baker—It was locked, and I kept the key.

SOPHIA BAKER . I received a deal box from the last witness, which I kept in my bed room—the prisoner is my son—I live at Detford.

SOPHIA BAKER, JUN . Last Saturday my mother was out. I went out and met my brother in the Broadway, alone—he asked me for the key to open the room door—he said he was going to put on a new shirt—I gave him the key—I came home soon afterwards, and found the key in the door—I went into the house—I had seen Mr. Shirt's deal box thers before—when I came home I saw it was broken open, and the money was gone—I went down to my mother.

WILLIAM DYKE . I am a policeman. In consequence of information, I went to Astley's Theatre on Saturday, the 19th of September, and appre hended the prisoner—I found on him a £5 note, four half-crown, and three shilling—I told him I wanted him for a robbery at Deptford, and asked if he had got a £5 note—he said, "You fool! what do you think I do with a £5 note?"—I searched him, and found it on him.

MR. SHIRT . This is my £5 note. I know it by the number, and the name on it.

GUILTY of stealing in the dwelling-house, but not of breaking and entering, Aged 17.— Transported for Life .

Before Mr. Recorder.

2090. ELIZABETH JANE WALES , alias Partridge, was indicted for stealing, on the 5th of August , at Greenwich , 2 sheets, value 10 s .; 1 blanket, value 4 s .; and 2 pillow-cases, value 1 s .; the goods of Thomas Stephens .—2nd COUNT , stating them to belong to Sarah Stephens .

SARAH STEPHENS . I am the wife of Thomas Stephens, a labourer, and live at No. 3, Rome-street, Greenwich. These articles are my husband's—the prisoner came to lodge at my house in July, and staid not quite a fortnight—these articles were let to her with the room—she took the key away when she left—I sent for a constable to open the room, and missed the things—I afterwards received a parcel containing the key and some duplicates, by which I recovered the property—I don't know the hand writing of the prisoner.

Prisoner. She shut her door upon me. Witness. I did so a week before, at half-past eleven o'clock at night, and she never came again that I know of—I don't know that she came that night, as I went to bed.

CHARLES NICHOLLS . I am a policeman. I apprehended the prisoner on the 5th of September, in East-lane, Greenwich—I told her it was for robbing her lodgings—she said she thought that was settled before that time—as we came along, she said she had taken the things and pawned them, except the blanket, which she gave a person to pawn for some drink—I found nine duplicates on her, but not of this property.

HENRY RYDER . I am shopman to Mr. Seaward, a pawnbroker. I have some sheets and the blanket, which were pledged—I have no knowledge of the prisoner—I took in part of the things—they were pawned by a female—the duplicates of them are in this letter—I have the counterparts.

Prisoner's Defence. I had parted from my husband, and was in great distress. I took her room at 3 s . 6 d . a week—on Monday I did not pay my rent—a friend called on Tuesdasy, and she asked him for it—I said she might allow a person to come up stairs without insulting them, and next morning she told me to get another lodging—I told my brother-in-law I had pawned some of the things, and had not the money to redeem them—he came on Saturday, and said he had found me a room at 1 s . 6 d . a week, and he would compromise things with the landlady, as he saw I was sorry for what I had done—he told me on Sunday he had agreed to see it paid—I wrote to her on Tuesday to give her a week's rent, instead of stopping in the room—my brother-in-law said she had a bill against me of 16 s . 8 d .; and he had said he would pay it—the following week he paid her 2 s .—she agreed with him to make it a debt, and take it of him as fast as he could get it—Mr. Marshall, my landlord, offered her 3 s . 6 d .

MRS. STEPHENS . Her brother-in-law called and paid 2 s . on the rent after she left, and brought me the key and a letter, with the duplicates—he said he would see the rent paid, if God spared his life—he has brought me 1 s . at a time, and he had a misfortune, or I should have received more—he has paid 5 s .—7 s . was due for rent—the things are pawned for 9 s . 6 d .—he never said any thing about paying the money advanced on the things—I don't recollect being offered 3 s . 6 d .—I will not say it was not offered;

but I was not willing to receive any money on the duplicates without having the whole—the prisoner offered me 2 s . the day she was taken, and I refused it—I gave her three weeks' lenity after I told her my intention, and they never came forward—she is a stay-stitcher, and would be a long time earning 9 s . 6 d .

GUILTY . Aged 39.— Recommended to mercy . — Confined Ten Days .

Second Jury, before Mr. Sergenat Arabin.

2091. MARY ANN FINCH was indicted for a misdemeanour.

MESSRS. SCARLETT and ELLIS conducted the Prosecution.

GEORGE KING . I am a coach-driver. I took the prisoner and two others on the 25th of August from the Bricklayers' Arms to the Broad way, Deptford—the fare was 1 s . 6 d . each—the prisoner took a bag out of her bosom, and handed three sixpences to Ann Brown, who gave them to me—two out of the three were bad, the third was good—I found the two were bad by tendering them at the corn-chandler's—I am sure they are the same—I gave notice, and went with the policeman to find the prisoner and the other persons—they were nearly at Dentford Bridge—I saw them taken—they went to the station-house, and on the way, the pri soner threw herself on the pavement, near Greenwich turnpike—the offi cer took a bag out of her hand, which contained twenty-two sixpences.

Prisoner. I did not fall down at all. Witness. Yes she did, at the turnpike.

WILLIAM SMITH . I am a police-sergeant. I went with the last witness, and took the prisoner and two othes—the prisoner that I took, which was Brown, flung herself down—I found nothing on her but 2 s . 6 d ., which were good, and some halfpence—these are the two sixpences that the coachman offered at the corn-chandler's—this basket was found left in the coach—It contains a file and some dirt—the prisoner owned it the next day.

GEORGE HARRIS . I am a policeman. I took this prisoner into cus tody—I saw something in her right hand—I said, "What have you got?"—she said money—there was 2 s . in sixpences good—In going over the brigdge she was very busy putting her hand into her bosom—she threw her self down—I seized her hand, and found in this rag twenty-two bad six pences—a good half-crown, and some halfpence, were loose in her pocket.

JOHN FIELD . I am inspector of counterfeit coin to the mint. These twenty-two are all bad, and these other two—they are all cast in the same mould. Prisoner's Defence. I picked them up at the public-house door—I went to inquire about my husband, who was gone to Portsmouth—I was making the best of my way there with a woman—we went to a public-house to have a pint of beer—It poured with rain—a gentleman called my little dog out—I went to call him back, and saw this rag with the money in it—I put them among my own good money—they were all mixed toge ther—I did not know that they were bad—I then went on to Deptford, and said, as it rained, I could not go further that night.

GUILTY . Aged 18.— Confined Eighteen Months .

Before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2092. JOHN BURNS was indicted for stealing, on the 29th of August , 1 handkerchief, value 6 d ., the goods of Thomas Wilkinson Kershaw ; to which be pleaded.

GUILTY .— Transported for Seven Years .

Before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2093. ANN PETTS was indicted for stealing, on the 18th of August , 2 aprons, value 2 s .; 1 towel, value 1 s .; 2 handkerchiefs, value 2 s .; 2 shifts, value 6 s .; 1 bed-gown, value 1 s .; and 1 petticoat, value 2 s .; the goods of William Wright , her master; to which she pleaded

GUILTY . Aged 37.— Confined One Year .

Before Mr. Recorder.

2094. MARY WELLS was indicted for stealing, on the 30th of August , 1 sheet, value 3 s ., 6 s ., the goods of Matthew Moriarty , her master.

MARY MORIARTY . I am the wife of Matthew Moriarty, we live in the stable-yard at Greenwich. The prisoner was my servant—she worked about the house, and slept there—she did not pay for her lodging—I missed some bed-clothes—here is one sheet, that I know is mine by my work on it—and here is one which is the fellow to it.

Prisoner. I never was her servant—I lodged in her house—I was coming down the street to get a lodging in Deptford, and she said I stole the sheet. Witness. She was my servant for two months—I gave her victuals and lodging.

THOMAS M'GILL ( police-sergeant R 19.) I took the prisoner for steal ing a sheet and two blankets—I found this sheet at Mrs. Gerrard's.

MRS. GERRARD . I bought the sheet on the 30th of August of the prisoner, I believe—for 1 s . 6 d .

Prisoner. I am certain she never bought it of me—when the officer took me to her house she said I was not the person. Witness. I mean to swear she was the person.

COURT . Q. Did you never in presence of the officer express any doubt on ths subject? A. When the officer brought her to me, she looked dif ferent—I did not own to the officer that she was the person—I did express a boubt at that time—she was not dressed in the same manner—when I bought it, the person had a dirty cap on, and a dirty face; and when the officer brought her to me she had a clean cap on, and a clean face—I buy second-hand clothes.

Q. What makes you know her now, if you did not know her then? A. I was not obliged to own to the officer that she was the person—I mean to swear she was the person.

COURT to THOMAS M'GILL . Q. What did Gerrard say respecting the prisoner? A. She said she was rather dirtier in her appearance; but now that she had a clean cap on, she was not certain whether she was the per son; but afterwards, before the Magistrate, upon a sound recollection, she said she was the person.

COURT to MRS. GERRARD . Q. Was any body with you when you bought it? A. No—I bought it in my shop, No. 4, Gale's-row, Greenwich—I do not buy every thing that is bought—I do not know what the sheet is worth.

NOT GUILTY .

2095. JAMES MCKENZIE was indicted for stealing, on the 31st of August , 1 sheet, value 3 s . 6 d ., the goods of Matthew Moriarty .

MARY MORIARTY . I am the wife of Matthew Moriarty. The prisoner came to my house on a Monday—I do not know the day of the month—he

had a lodging, and paid 4 d . for it—I went out to work the next day, and I afterwards missed this sheet—I know it to be mine.

WILLIAM BALL ( police-constable R 166.) On the 31st of August, I saw the prisoner in the Broadway, Deptford—he went into Mr. Sharp's—I saw him come out, and Mr. Sharp came to the door—I asked him what the prisoner had got—he said a sheet that he suspected he had stolen—I followed the prisoner, and asked what he had got—he said a sheet that he had brough from on board the brig Charlotte; and that his mother made it him at Kingston, in the West Indies—I took him to the station-house, and the prosecutor owned the sheet.

Prisoner. The woman where I slept robbed my bundle—I went the next morning, and took this sheet instead of my own—my ship is gone to sea now.

COURT to MARY MORIARTY . Q. Did the prisoner leave a sheet behind? A. I did not see any—my sheet was clean in a drawer.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Three Months .

2096. EDWARD GOUGH was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of August , 1 shawl, value 9 s .; 1 handerchief, value 1 s .; and 1 gown, value 4 s .; the goods of Sarah Mary Ann Taylor .

SARAH MARY ANN TAYLOR . I live servant at the Lord Wickham public-house, at Woolwich. The prisoner was in the habit of coming there—on the 24th of August I went to the town, on an errand—when I returned I went into my room—I found my box had been broken open; and I missed a gown, shawl, and handkerchief—I went to Mr. Davis, a pawn broker, where I found the shawl and handkerchief; and the gown at Mrs. Hoath's—these are the things—I had seen them safe between three and four o'clock.

WILLIAM BOOTH . I am a pawnbroker, and live in Powis-street, Woolwich. I took in this gown of the prisoner, on the 24th of August.

JAMES CHANDLER . I am a pawnbroker. I took in this shawl and handkerchief of the prisoner, on the 24th of August.

Prisoner. Q. Can you swear I am the person who pawned them? A. Yes, certainly I can—It was between seven and eight o'clock in the evening.

GUILTY . Aged 20.— Confined six Months .

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2097. JOHN KEENAN was indicted for stealing, on the 6th of September , 1 candlestick, value 3 s ., the goods of James Watson .

JAMES WATSON . I keep the White Horse public-house, at New Charl ton, in Kent. On the 6th of September, about ten minutes before eleven o'clock at night, the prisoner and another came in—they called for some ale—they put down a sovereign, and paid for it—they then called for half-a-pint of gin—I saw they had had enough; and I told them, as soldiers, to keep sober, and go to their barracks—they went into my parlour, and drew the door to—when I would not draw them the liquor, away they went—I saw them go into the road—I then went into the parlour, and missed the candlestick—I had no suspicion that they had taken it till the next morning, when the watchman brought the candlestick to my house.

PETER INCH . I am a watchman. I was on duty at half-past eleven

o'clock, and saw the prisoner in Bowling-green-lane, talking to a woman—I saw he and this candlestick in his hand—I asked him where he got it—he said a woman gave it him, but he could not tell me who.

Prisoner's Defence. A woman gave it to me to h old—I waited, and she did not come back—I said to my comrade "I would throw it away"—he said, "Don't do that"—I then said I would give it to the first woman I met; and I was going to give it to that woman when the officer came up.

NOT GUILTY .

2098. THOMAS NEWBERRY was indicted for stealing, on the 1st of December , 1 time-piece, value 5 s ., the goods of Robert Cummings .

ROBERT CUMMINGS . I am a gun-maker, and live in Artillery-place, Woolwich. I missed this time-piece on the 1st of december—I had not seen it perhaps for nine months before—I went to Mr. Davis, the pawn broker, and there I found it—this is it—the prisoner was my servant.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE . Q. Had not other marines access to your house as well as the prisoner? A. Yes? some marines and many artillery men—I received information from John Ray Bailey, and then I missed this time-piece—I prosecuted Bailey, and he was transported for stealing a pistol.

COURT . Q. Was that pistol kept in the shop or up stairs? A. In the shop, and I had this time-peice in the shop till I broke the stand, and then I took it to the back parlour, which is my bed-room, and put it into a drawer—I have no up stairs—I have asked persons into that room to have a bit of dinner—Bailey or his friends may have been there.

JAMES CHANDLER . I am a shopman to Mr. Davis, a pawnbroker. I produce the time-piece—It was pledged by a marine, and then taken out, and pledged again by a woman in the name of Carpenter.

MARTHA CARPENTER . I am the wife of John Carpenter. I bought the duplicate of this time-piece of the prisoner for 1 s .—It had been pledged for 3 s ., and the prisoner said it was worth 15 s .; but when I looked at it, it was not worth 3 s ., and I told the prisoner to fetch me my money again—I know his countenance, and his speech.

Cross-examined Q. When was it you saw him? A. The last week in January—I never saw him till I bought the duplicate of him—I was questioned as to who I bought it of, when the prisoner was taken, which was last month—all marines are dressed alike—I had not seen the prisoner from the time he sold me the duplicate—I said he was the person, and his wife told me I bought it of him.

Q. Have you never said you could not tell? A. No; I said I had no doubt that was the man—I was not asked many questions about it—I did not know what I was going before the Magistrate for—I was never pressed but by the Magistrate and his wife.

COURT . Q. Did you not say it was a man very much resembling the pri soner? A. Yes; I said so to the Magistrate.

NOT GUILTY .

2099. JAMES ROBISON was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of September , 1 pestle, value 3 s .; and 1 mortar, value 2 s .; the goods of John Paterson .

JOHN PATERSON . I keep a broker's shop in the Greenwich-road. Or the 21st of September, I lost a pestle and mortar—this is the mortar.

JOHN EVANS ( police-constable R 190.) I was on duty at Greenwich on

the 21st of September—I saw the prisoner go to Mr. Pateson's window—he put his hand in—I took out something, which he concealed under his jacket, and went off at a quick step between a walk and a run—I called the officer who was on duty, and told him—before the officer came up to him, I saw the prisoner stoop, and conceal something at the step of a door—I went there, and found this mortar.

Prisoner. I was walking quite slowly. Witness. You did, after you de posited it there.

GUILTY . Aged 19.— Transported for Seven Years .

Sixth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2100. JOHN MURPHY was indicted for an assault.

GUILTY . Aged 22.— Confined Two Years . See page 696, 11th Session.

SURREY LARCENIES , &c.

2101. JOHN SMITH , JAMES PRATT , and WILLIAM BONILL , were convicted of b----y. See page 728.

2102. JOHN WICKS was convicted of larceny. see page 776.

2103. WILLIAM LEE was convicted of larceny. See page 784.

2104. THOMAS MEAYS was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of October , I saw, value 3 s ., the goods of Maria Roakes , his mistress.

MARIA ROAKES . I am an undertaker, and live in Blackman-street, Borough. The prisoner was eight years in my employ as a journeyman—I did not miss this saw till he confessed taking it, and gave up the duplicat in mu parlour—It was after he was charged with stealing the property—we missed several little things, and made inquiries, and he said he took them meaning to replace them again—I had a very good opinion of him.

JOSEPH BROMLEY . I am a pawnbroker in the Borough. I produce a saw, pawned by the prisoner in his own name—I knew him before.

JOHN SMITH . I am a policeman. I took him in charge.

( Property produced and sworn to. )

GUILTY . Aged 31.— Strongly recommended to mercy. — Confined Three Months .

2105. THOMAS MEAYS was again indicted for stealing, on the 15th of December , 1 pair of trowsers, value 5 s .; and 1 rule, value 3 s .; the goods of William Webster .

WILLIAM WEBSTER . I am son-in-law to the last prosecutrix. The trowsers and rule are mine—I left them in her house in the Borough—the prisoner always bore a good character.

JOSEPH PLUMMER . I am a pawnbroker. This saw and pair of trowsers were pawned by the prisoner.

( Property produced and sworn to. )

GUILTY . Aged 31.— Confined Three Months more .

Third Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2106. GEORGE JOHNSON was indicted for stealing, on the 25th of August , 1 pair of stocking, value 2 s .; 1 flannel shirt, value 6 d .; 1 pair of trowsers, value 6 d .; 3 shirts, value 6 s .; 2 waistcoats, value 3 s .; 1 jacket, value 1 s .; 1 handkerchief, value 6 d .; and 1 printed book, value 6 s .; the goods of James Bentley , in a vessel on the navigable river Thames.

JAMES BENTLEY . I was seaman on board the Gerorge and Eleantor, lying off Rotherithe. On the night of the 25th of August, I was called by Campion to a man who was said to be in the forecastele—I took hold of the prisoner—I missed from my chest some shirts, and my Bible—I found my Bible outside my chest, with these other articles—the prisoner was alonside of them—he had no business in the vessel—he told me he had been three hours in the forecastle, asleep—this was at eleven o'clock—some of the articles had been taken from my bag, and part from my chest—the prisoner told me that he was going to do nothing with the things, and that he had been asleep three hours in the foreccastle—he gave no further account of himself—my chest was in the forecastle.

Prisoner. He said before the Magistrate that he did not know whether he had put the Bible in the chest or not. Witness. I had put it in my chest—I said I put it in overnight in the chest.

THOMAS MOODY . I am a Thames police-surveyor. On the 25th of August, I went on board the George and Eleanor, and took charge of the prisoner—I found some clothes lying close to him—he was siting down in the forecastle, with neither hat nor shoes om—I asked him how he came on board—he said, "In a boat, from Union-stairs"—I asked what had become of his shoes—he said he did not know—I asked him if there was any body with him in the boat—he would not make any answer to that.

Prisoner. I was sitting by the stairs, about nine o'clock—I asked a person for a passage—as I sat on the stairs as young man came up, and asked me if I had not got a ship—I said no; and that I belonged to Aberdeen—he said he belonged to Edinburgh—he said, "I have got a ship, you can come on board with me"—he took me down to Union-stairs, gave me two glasses of rum, and then took me on board the vessel—he told me to take off my shoes, for if the men found me in the ship, he might lose his berth—I was not to tell how I came on board—I took off my shoes, and went down—the Bible laid on the chest—I laid down to sleep, and the young man whispered to me to go behind, as he wanted to get something out of the chest, and then the prosecutor came—I was sitting on the chest when he took hold of me—I was not by the clothes, and had not touched them—when the prosecutor went on deck, he said her saw a young man. and one of the boats was gone.

JAMES BENTLEY re-examined. I did not say I saw another person there—these are my trowsers—all these things were either in my bag or chest, all safe—all the ship's company were in bed—I asked him if there was any body else there, he said no—his cap was in amongst the clothes—the vessel was lying in Rotherhithe tier, on the Thames—the best of the things were put into the bag—they laid on the floor of the vessel as if they had been just taken out—nobody but him, could have taken them—he was a stranger—we were about two hundred yards from shore—I do not know how he got on board—he came on board in the night—he could not have come from one vessed to another, as there was a watch in the vessel along side—I had been in bed about two hours.

Prisoner. A young man took me on board—I did not know but he

belonged to the ship—Bentley said he saw the man, and he said he found my cap on deck; now he says it was in a jacket.

JAMES BENTLEY . I found the cap in a man's jacket—I did not say I knew there was another man who had got away in a boat.

Prisoner. When he went on deck he called out police, and he said, "Oh! there is somebody with him, for the boat is gone. "

Witness. I said there was a boat under our bow, but I found it was our own long-boat—I did not say it was gone.

Prisoner's Defence. The young man who took there has got off, and I am left in the lurch—I was not found with any thing on me.

GUILTY . Aged 19. Transported for Seven Years .

First Jury, before Mr. Baron Gurney.

2107. HENRY DEMPSEY was indicted , for that he, on the 2nd of Sep tember , at St. Mary's, Lambeth , feloniously did forge a certain receipt for money, to wit, for the sum of 5 l ., with intent to defrand Sarah Eliza Mas sey , against the Statute, &c.—2nd COUNT , for feloniously offering and ut tering the same, well knowing it to be forged, with a like intent,—3rd COUNT , that he having in his custody and possession a certain receipt for money, as follows, that is to say—" Received of Mr. Dempsey the sum of 5 l ., for one quarter's rent, due the 25 th of March last, , 1835.—S. MASSEY ," feloniously did alter the same, by then and there altering the figure 5 be tween the figure 2 and the word of into the figure 4, and by striking out and oblitersting the word "March," and writing above the same the word June, whereby it became, and is as follows (that is to say,) "Received of Mr. Dempsey the sum of 5 l ., for one quarter's rent, due 24th of June last, 1835,—S. Massey"—with a like intent.—4th COUNT , for uttering the said forged receipt, with a like intent.

MR. CLARKSON conducted the Prosecution.

SARAH ELIZA MASSEY . I am sinle, and live in Cornwall-road, Lam beth. The prisoner rents a house of me, at 20 l . a year, in Cornwall-road, next to where I live—I gave his son a receipt for the quater's rent, due in March—I cannot recollect the time—( looking at a receipt ) this is the receipt I gave him, I believe; it now purports to be a receipt for a quarter's rent due on the 24th of June last—the 4 having been altered from a 5, and "March" struck out, and "June" written over it; but when I gave it to his son, it had the words "25th of March," and not the 24th of June—this altera tion has been made without my consent or knowledge—I never received a farthing of the quarter's rent up to june—I wrote the whole of this receipt except the alteration—I have repeatedly applied to the prisoner since that for the June quater—he has put me off from time to time, saying I should have it in a fortnight, a week, and then ten days—I at last em polyed Cox to distrain for the June quarter, about the 2nd of September—I never saw this receipt except in the condition I gave it to him.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS Q. Are you married? A. No—"I sign my receipts, "Sarah Massey"—"the prisoner always paid me his rent by instalments of 1 l . or 2 l . at a time—"it may have been in June that I gave him this receipt—"I gave it him as a receipt for the last quarter—"he had it of me after the 24th of June, because he then completed paying for his June quarter—"he always said one quarter after another was very good payment—"I went seveal times to demand the rent—"this receipt is not on

stamp—henever showed me this receipt when I asked for the June rent—when I sent the broker in, the prisoner produced this receipt—I snatched at it, and tore a bit off the corner, as the broker said he had produced a receipt for the rent—I said it was not possible, and went to him—he had shown it to the broker—the word "March" is visible in the receipt now, but it has been scratched over with a pen—I do not recollect saying at the police-office, that I was ready to make it up, provided the prisoner paid me—I might have said so.

MARY ANN TYLER . I am a widow, and live in Cornwall-road. I know the prosecutrix and prisoner—I have applied to him on her behalf for the quarter's rent, due in June last—I applied for it within about tea days before this receipt was produced at the office—he said he had no money at all then, but as soon as he had, Miss Massey should have some—he never said he had paid it.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE . Q. In what month was this conver sation with him? A. In June, at the latter end—later than the 20th.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. It was not due till the 24th? A. No; it was after it was due that I applied—I think it was more than a month after it was due—I am sure my application was for the rent due last June.

SAMUEL COX . I am a broker, and live in Tower-street, Westminster-road. On the 2nd of September, I went to levy a distress on the prisoner's goods, at the suit of Miss Massey—I demanded a quarter's rent, due on the 24th of June—I saw the prisoner—he said he owed nothing; that he had paid the rent, and got a receipt—I asked him to show it to me—he went up stairs, and brought down this receipt, and produced it to me, altered as it is now, from March to June, and 25 to 24—Miss Massey came in, and it was shown to her—I was outside the door when she snatched at it.

JOSHUA DELLER . I am an officer of Union Hall. On Saturday, the 5th of September, I went with another constable to the prisoner's house, and told him I had come for a quarter's rent due to Miss Massey—I did not state what quarter—he said he did not owe any rent, that he had paid it, and had a receipt to show—I said I should be satisfied if he produced the receipt to me—he went up stairs and brought down this receipt in his pocket—he put his hand in his pocket, and said, "You look like two gentlemen; I don't know you, and shall not allow it to go out of my pos session, as it has once before been snatched at in my hand"—he held it in his hand for us to read—my brother officer asked him for it—he said he should not deliver it—my brother officer said. "We are officers of?Union Hall, and have a warrant against you, and have come for that receipt"—he said, "You shan't have it"—my brother officer laid hold of him, and the prisoner called to his wife to take it away from him—I pushed her away, and succeeded in getting it from him—he called, "Murder," and "Thieves" ( receipt read. )

(Enoch Lloyd, builder, St. James's-place, Cornwall-road; Thomas Bebys, cheesemonger, Cornwall-road; James Philips, printer, at the Morn ing Herald office; Benjamin Hardy, plumber, Cornwall-road; Hannah Harris, little Windmill-street, New-cut; and James Lake, plasterer, George-street, Blackfriars-road, deposed to the prisoner's good character.).

GUILTY of uttering only. — Confined Two Years .

Before Mr. Justice Williams.

2108. JOHN SEAL was indicted for stealing, on the 21st of Septem ber in the parish of St. Giles, Camberwell , 1 bull, price 10 l ., the property of Daniel Lewis .

ABRAHAM UPSDELL . I am servant to Daniel Lewis, a farmer at Cam berwell. He had a bull, which I put into the field on Sunday afternoon, September 20th, at three o'clock—there were eight cows and a heifer in the field with him—I have had him seven or eight months—I locked the gate of the field and had the key in my pocket—I went to the field about half-past five o'clock on Monday morning—the cows and heifer were there, but not the bull—he had strayed away into the next field before—I saw the track of one oxen out of the gate, which was shut, but the lock was stretched as wide as it could—the gate had not been open—I saw the bull again on Tuesday.

DANIEL LEWIS . I am a farmer, and live in Camberwell parish. I was disturbed by the bull roaring before three o'clock on Monday morning—he bellowed as bulls do when after cows, and kept roaring all the way along the road—I judged it to be my bull's voice—I dressed myself, came down stairs, took a candle and lantern, and went on the common in front to see, if I could, which way it had gone—while I was looking about, a person from Peckham-rye came up—I followed to Walworth-terrace, about two miles and a half from my place towards London, and came up to the bull at the terrace in about an hour—I found the prisoner driving it—he had no other cattle—the bull was not making a noise when I came up—I asked the prisoner where he was going with that bull—he said to Smithfield, to Mr. Gurney, a salesman, and he had brought him from Lordship-lane-hill—I asked who employed him to drive it—he said "Mr. Kemp"—I told him it was my bull, and I should detain him—he said could I swear to it?—I said yes—I could recognise its head, by the colour of its horns, by the light of the lamp; and when daylight came I knew it well to be mine.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE . Q. After saying he was going to Gurney's, did he say any thing more? A. He said he was to have 3 s . 6 d . for driving it to market, and wished to be taken to Mr. Gurney to have the mat ter explained—the police took him to the station-house—I have had the bull about seven months, and was in the habit of seeing it myself once or twice a-day—I am quite sure it is mine—It had a very small head and particu larly white stripes, and a white helly—I could distinguish its voice.

Prisoner's Defence. I was employed by Mr. Kemp to take it to Mr. Gurney, and was to have 3 s . 6 d . Four o'clock is the usual time to get to Smithfield.

GUILTY . Aged 48.— Transported for Life .

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

2109. JOHN DEAN , JOHN SMITH , and JOHN RUSSELL , were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Driver , at St. Mary, Lambeth , on the 13th of September , and stealing therein two dishes, value 1 s . 6 d .; and 1 pie, value 1 s .; his property.—2nd COUNT , stating it to be the dwelling-house of John Kershaw .

WILLIAM DRIVER . I am a policeman, and live at Belvidere-wharf, in the parish of St. Mary, Lambeth. I have the care of the wharf—It is not my house—I live in it rent-free till it is let—It is Mr. John Kershaw's house—last Sunday week I week on duty at half-past five o'clock, and when I came back I found the house had been robbed—I missed a dish, containing a plum-pie, and a dish which covered it—they

had been standing in the counting-house on a large desk under the window—I saw them safe at half-past five o'clock—the counting-house is part of the dwelling-house—the window was shut when I went out, and the blind drawn down before it.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE . Q. When did you see the window? A. When I went out—Mr. Kershaw applied to my Superintendant for a pliceman to go and take care of the house on account of the numerous depredations committed there—I have lived there nearly eighteen months, and have no other residence—Mr. Kershaw, I believe, has not lived then for the last four or five years.

SERJEANT PYE DRIVER . I am brother of the last witness, and was liv ing with him at the time. On the Sunday morning, about six o'clock, I was getting up, and saw the three prisoners go from the window of the counting-room—Smith had got the pie in his hand—he was not a yard from the window—they all went away together—they went up Sutton-street—he there put the pie into a yellow handkerchief—they all went away together—I came down and went after them, but did not catch them—I found the window open, and a blue and white dish outside the window, which had been inside—the cash was up quite sufficient for a person to get in, and the blind shoved on one side—I am quite sure the prisonera are the person I saw—on the Monday evening, about eight o'clock, I saw Smith and Dean together in astreet ner the station-house—I pointed them out, and gave them in charge to a policeman—a handkerchief was produced at the station-house, in Smith's presence, which I believe to be the handkerchief he put the pie into—there was the print of an oval dish on it, and the pie was in an oval dish.

Cross-examined Q. Were thier backs or faces turned to you? A. Smith and another had their faces to the window when I first saw them—the street they went up is about hundred yards from where I first saw them—I had them in sight all the way up the street—I saw their backs and faces several times going up the street—my window was partly open—I looked through the window—through the glass—I saw the hand kerchief put round the pie when they were abount a hundred yards off—It was such a handkerchief as the one produced—I cannot swear to it.

WILLIAM ALIDERMAN . I am apoliceman. I was in the New-cut on the Sunday, at about twenty minutes before seven o'clock, about a quarter of a mile from Belvidere-wharf—I saw the three prisoners together—I went and apprehended Smith the next night—I found this handkerchief on him—It has an oval mark on it now—I told him I wanted him for stealing a pie from the Belvidere-road, at six o'clock on Sunday morning—he said he had not beeen on that side of the water that morning, and afterwards he said he had not been there so carly as seven o'clock—I had not then told him the time the robbery was committed—It had never been named.

Cross-examined Q. Did you see the pie at any time? A. No—I had not told Smith that I had seen him before seven o'clock that morning—Dean was with him—I went up to them and told them, I took them for stealing a pie in the Belvidere-road—they were about five minutes' walk from the premises when I saw them at twenty minutes before seven o'clock.

WILLIAM DRIVER, JUN . I was in the room, with my uncle, on Sunday morning and saw the three prisoners below—Smith had a pie in his hand, and was about a yard from the counting-house window—they went away; and about a hundred yards up Sutton-street he put the pie into a yellow

handkerchief with white spots—he covered it up, and went away—I am sure the prisoners are the persons.

Cross-examined Q. Had you ever seen them before? A. I had not—I saw the handkerchief under the window, in Smith's hand—I made haste to dress as quick as I could, and went after them, but could not see them—I was or three minutes dressing—I went up Sutton-street, and down York-road, bout could not see them—I saw them for about five minutes altogether—I saw all their faces and backs, too, distinctly—I will swear I told my father what I had seen.

GEORGE MABER . I am waiter at the Waterman's Arms, in Waterloo mad. Of the Sunday morning, about half-past six o'clock, I was sweep ing the door opposite Belvidere-wharf—I saw a dish standing outside the window—I heard of the robbery, and give it to Mrs. Driver.

HANNAH DRIVER . I am the wife of William Driver. I received a dish from the last witness—I had set it on the counter, under the window, about eighteen inches from the window, over night—this dish had covered the pie—I valued the dish and pie at 3 s .

JAMES NEWMAN . I am a policeman. I apprehended Russell on Tues day morning, at Marsh-gate.

Dean. I wish to ask the boy, whether he was on the first or second floor.

WILLIAM DRIVER, JUN . I was on the second floor—the window was shut.

Dean's Defence . Is it likely, a person at a two-pair of stairs window could distinguish yellow from white?—I was living at Mr. Ford's at the time, and was at work there till half-past eleven o'clock on Saturday night—I went to bed, and got up about five minutes to six o'clock; acme over the water to George Coutr, and called on Smith, to go and deliver a letter—we called Russell up, and went from one house to the other drinking, till about eight o'clock then we went home.

Smith's Defence . It is not likely a lad, at an up-stairs window, could see a yard from the house, without the window being open—the witness he picked up the dish about twenty minutes to seven o'clock—the policeman says he saw it in the New-cut, at twenty minutes to seven o'clock—I know nothing about it, I assure you—It is not likely he could distinguish white spots in a yellow handkerchief a hunderchief a hundred yards off.

DEAN— GUILTY . Aged 22.

SMITH— GUILTY . Aged 21.

RUSSELL— GUILTY . Aged 19.

Transported for Life .

Third Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2210. WILLIAM SHOWELL , GEORGE GROUT , and DANIEL HADLAND , were indicted for stealing, on the 25th of August , St. George the Martyr, Southwark , 1 mare, price 50 s . the property of Tho mas Price .

THOMAS PRICE . On Monday, the 24th of August, I put my mare into a field in Bethnal-green, about eight o'clock, and missed her about half-past six o'clock the next morning—on the 26th I went to Romford market to inquire about it, and a little boy gave me information—I had put the mare in a field at Old Ford—there is a little gap at the corner of thye field where I led her in—there is a bank and a ditch round the field—It could not get out at the gap unless it were led out—It was blind—I found her in

Mr. Bennett's possession, on the 26th of August—his man had it locked up in his stable.

Cross-examined by MR. MAHON . Q. You placed it in the field? A. Yes; I led it through a gap—It could not walk out unless it was led—It was bilnd—It was a little bit of a gap as wide as this witness-box—there is a large pond by the gap—I had to lead her very carefully round it—It never strayed from me before—I have had it about three years—I never offered it for sale to any body—I could get 3 l . for it—It would fetch 50 s . at market—It was not lit for the knacker—I did not give it to any body to sell.

THOMAS FORTUNE . I am servant to Mr. Bennett, a butcher. On the morning of the 25th of August, I saw Hadland and Grout come down St. George's market, near tge Elephant and Castle, with this mare—Gront was riding it, and Hadland walking alongside of it—as they came down the market they saw me—Hadland called me by my name, and said, " Tommy, will you buy the pony?"—I knew him before very well—I said, "No; the pony will not suit me"—It was a very small pony, about the size of a donkey—I said, "No; it will not suit me; it is blind, and such an object I will not have it"—I called Mr. Bennett, My master, and said, "Here is a pony perhaps will suit one of your little boys"—my master truned round and saw it, and asked if I knew the two men—I said, "Yes; I know them both"—master bid 30 s . for it, and Grout took it—I saw him paid—my master gave them a bit of steak, and they went over the way and had sixpenny worth of gin—the pony was claimed the next day, and master gave it up to Price.

Cross-examined. Q. You knew both the men very well? A. Yes; I have known Handland six or seven years—I knew Grout by seeing him in Smithfield-market—I knew where Haldland lived—Showell came to the public-house while we were drinking the liquor, and master asked him wherebe got the pony—he said he bought it at the Elephant and Castle, and showed a paper with the name of the man he bought it of—I think it was somebody at Bromley, but I cannot read—my master reae it, and Showell had the paper back again—I think master gave 10 s . too much; for it is blind and had a great wen at the bottom of its belly—I never saw such an object of a pony for the money—It could walk about—I am not accustomed tohorses much—I have one myself—no doubt a blind pony could find its way out of a gap.

COURT . Q. You think if there were a small gap, the size of that box, a blind pony would find it out? A. Yes—In fact I had one myself and If I turned him into a field, and there was the least gap inthe world, he would find it, and ger out—he was blind.

SOLOMON BENNETT . On Tuesday, the 25th of August, I saw Hadland and Grout at my house—I did not see Showell then—they called my man by his name, " Tommy, will you buy a pony?"—he said, "No; it won't suit me," and he said to me, "Master, here is a pony will suit one of the children"—I was busy serving some customers, and said, "well if you think so, buy it"—he came to me and said they wanted 2 l .—I said, "Give them 30 s ., if it's worth it"—they agreed for that, but said if I would give them something to derink, and a bit of steak, I should have it—I gave Grout the money, and a bit of steak and went across the road to a public-house and treated them with something to drink—Fortune said he knew where to find them at any time—In the mean time Showell came in—I said, "Have you any thing to do with this pony?"—he said yes, that they

had all three bought it just now at the Elephant and Castle—I said, "Do you know who you bought it of?—he said, "Yes," and showed me a paper with a name on it which I forget in Bromley-lane—the next day, a neig bour of mine went to Romford when he came home he told me he heard the pony inquired after there—I asked why he did not tell where it was, and I went and gave information to the police—I sent Fortune down to the Elephant and Castle to see if he could find the men—he returned, and said Grout wasthere—I took a policeman tohim, and he said he and Showell had bought it, and he took us to Showell's house, but he was not at home—we brought him to where the pony was, and the prosecuter came up—I was going to give it to him but thepoliceman made him describe it first, which he did, and I gave it to him—Grout eas taken to Union-hall and romanded till the next day—Showeel I believe, came to the office and was detained.

Cross-examined. Q. Had you given the full price for it? A. More than it would fetch again—Showell came into the public-house and said that he bought it at the Elephant and Castle—he produced a paper to me—he did not say what he paid for it, nor describe the man he bought it of—he said he knew him by sight—Fortune knew them, well and where they lived—It was between ten and eleven o'clock in the open day-time—showell came forward voluntarily.

Q. Were you present when he made a statment the next day? A. I was at the police-office—he gave the same account as he did to me—I live in a publice thoroughfare, St. George's Market—they did not ask me to go to a private place to but it.

THOMAS PRICE . I am certain the pony is the one I lost—the field is in old ford, about five miles from Bennett's I think.

HENRY BANKS . Price came to me and asked if I knew st. George's market—I put my pony into the cart, and drove him over to the market, where I made inquiry, and found Bennett talking to the polliceman—I said, I had come for the pony—he said "What sort of a one was it? "—I said, "A small one a mare nearly black with grey hairs and a big mane"—Taylor was alongside—I said, "I must give this gentleman into your cus tody—I asked Bennett to let me see the pony—he said, "No, allow me to go and get the person I bought it of"—he went and brought Showell and another not in custody—showell was detained.

Showell's Defence . I was at the Elephant and castle—a man came to me and said, "Have you any money? here is a pony we can go and buy"—I went round to the knacker's—the man asked 25 s . for it—I said, "It is not worth that"—he said the knacker had bid 18 s . for it—I at last agreed to give 19 s . for it—he gave me his direction—we went to a pub lic-house and had a pint of beer—I had to pledge to get the money and while I was gone he wrote the direction.

MARIA GRISBY . My husband is a horse-dealer and knacker, and lives at no. 2, Walworth-road, at the tripe-shop. On Tuesday the 25th of August a man called at out place with a pony about elevan o'clock in the morning or I think half-past ten—my husband was not at home—It was a man about five feet seven inches high—an oldish-looking man, in a fustian caot black hat dark whiskers, and I think corderoy or fustian trowsers—he was rather lame with one leg—I did not notice which—he asked me if my husband was at home; I said not—he said, "I have brought a pony for sale how long do you think he will be before he is at home?"—I said, "About an hour"—he said, "I will go round to Jones's to have pint of

beer, and tie the pony at the back of your house;" which he did, and when my husband came home I told him of it—he tied the pony in our back yard—Jones is a publican—my husband returned in about an hour—I told him, and he went to him to Jones's, and said he should not buy it—It was a dark brown pony, eith a great many grey hairs about it—It was very old, and blind with both eyes—such a one as we would not give much for—It was very bad indeed in appearance.

Q. Does not your husband buy them for slaughtering as bad as that? A. Perhaps the price did not suit.

BENJAMIN GRISBY . I am the husband of the last witness, and keep a tripe-shop in Walworth-road—I buy the horses to slaughter—on the 25th of August, I went to the Waggon and Horses, public-house, in consequence of what my wife said—when I came home I found the pony tied to the back of my house—I asked her what sort of man it was—she said an elderly man in a fustian coat—I went and saw nobody in the public-house but him—It might be between ten and eleven o'clock—It was neither of the prisoners—he was fifty years old, and I think lame—I said, "Have you got a horse to sell?"—he said, "Yes"—I drank with him, as he had apint of porter—I went and saw the pony—he said it was worth 30 s .—I said, "No"—he said, "Will you give 25 s .?"—I said, "No, it did about the place for half an hour after that, I dare say, and the pony was still tied up—In about a quarter of an hour I saw him taking it away towards the Rockingham Arms, New Kent-road—I knew nothing of it being sold till the policeman came and asked if I was not about buying a pony on Tuesday; I went to Union Hall, I there saw the same pony—I have not seen the man since—I should know him if I did—I never saw either of the prisoners near him—the Elephant and Castle is a place where ponies are often exposed for sale by men out of the country—I have bought many myself and seen hundreds bought.

Prisoner's Defence. I had 1 s . in my pocket when I bought it—I could only pawn for ten more, and when I came back I could only give him 11 s .—I said, "I had not enough, will it make any difference if I give you the rest to-morrow?"—he said, "Not at all, but you must give me my cloth and saddle back"—we had sixpenny-worth more gin—In about half an hour he brought me a halter—I was to give him the money and halter the next day—I told him any body about the elephant and Castle would tell him where I was if he inquired—I went over the water, and when I came back, I heard of the disturbance—I went to the policeman, and said, "I would meet him next morning, as I understood I was wanted—I went according to promise, but he did not come—a man was apprehended last Saturday, but it did not prove to be the man—Brown, the policeman, was with me two days looking for the man.

THOMAS SPENCER . I am a hackney-coachman. On the 25th of Au gust, a person in a fustian-coat, and fustian or corderoy trowsers, spoke to me about Showell—I had seen the man on Tuesday standing with a pony against the cat's-meat shop door, kept by Grisby, in Walworth-road—It was the same man who spoke to me on Wednesday, and asked for Showell—It was an oldish looking pony, blind, and lame, and had a lump right undser neath its belly—the man in the fustian jac ket had a kind of dent in his nose—I could point him out from a thousand.

HENRY BANKS re-examined. Grout was produced to me with another man—neither of the prisoners—It was not a man answering the deescription of the

man alluded to—the man who is not here, and myself, and Taylor, took one day to search for the man they described—two men were brought to the Magistrate by Bennett, and the Magistrate told them they were all four guilty alike.

SOLOMON BENNETT re-examined. I produced nobody but Grout—there were four men before the Magistrate—they gave evidence, but the fouth man was never in custody.

HENRY BANKS . He was produced by you as a prisoner.

Witness. No such thing; Hadland came as a witness for Grout—there might have been a fourth man before the Magistrate, but I did not produce him—I believe it was the prisoners produced the fourth man—I think his name was Chetham, but I had never seen him—the Magistrate did not detain him.

MR. MAHON . Q. Did you hear the Magistrate say they were all guilty alike? A. Yes; the three prisoners, and the man not here—Hadland came as a witness, and Showell came afterwards, voluntarily—Showell and Grout have been out on bali ever since.

THOMAS FORTUNE . I have known the prisoners four or five years—Showell and Grout's parents keep cows, and they are cow-keepers—I have seen them about the Elephant and Castle buying horses, and any thing of that sort—old cart-horses come by in waggons.

COURT . Q. Do you mean the Elephant and Castle, where coaches stop? A. Yes; I have seen horses sold at Davis's door, who keeps a knacker-shop in the neighbourhood—Showell's father is a cow-keeper at Walworth—Hadland's brother keeps cows—I knew where to find Showell and Grout—It is down the first street on the left hand, in the Kent-road, close against the Elephant and Castle—I have seen them buy a horse, and sell it at Smithfield—I do not know any other way that they get their living—I am at Smithfield every day of my life, and have seen Showell there buying a horse—he produced a paper to me and my master.

HENRY BANKS . I had the direction in my room three days, to ascer tain if I could find the man—Taylor the policeman has got it—he is not here.

Prisoner Showell . I gave the paper to Taylor—I have bought two and three horses a day, and sold them at Smithfield—a man may often buy three horses a day, without a halfpenny in his pocket, if he sells one as fast as he buys it—I have used every exertion to find the man.

SOLOMON BENNETT . They came to me between ten and eleven o'clock in the morning. I took the policeman to the Elephant and Castle, to take Grout—I said to Grout, "You know who you bought the pony of"—he said "Yes," and took me to Showell's house—Grisby's is about five or six hundred yards from my house—I brought it at very near eleven o'clock—It could not be later.

MARIA GRISBY . The pony was brought to my husband's about half-past ten or eleven o'clock.

BENJAMIN GRISBY . I went to the public-house, between ten and eleven o'clock, about the pony—I did not take the particular notice of the time—I parted with the old man about eleven o'clock—the pony had been standing there a good time—It was there some time after I spoke to him—I knew nothing about Bennett's buying it, till a policeman came, and asked if I had seen it—I do not think I was above five minutes with the old man—I was in the shop doing my business, and left him at the back—there ia a court behind my shop—he came round to the shop, and said,

"Won't you it of me?"—I said "No; it is not worth the trouble of skinning; it is so little. "

THOMAS NOYES . I keep a retail beer shop, London-road, opposite the Elephant and Castle. I have known Showell from a boy—on the Wednes day, a man about sixty years of age came to me, and inquired for showell—he was about five feet six or seven inches—he had one shoulder higher than the other, and was lame—It was on Wednesday the 26th—he staid at my house from haalf-past nine o'clock in the morning till half-past three o'clock in the afternoon—It was not either of the prisoners.

THOMAS SPENCER . On Tuesday morning, a man in a fustian coat, in quired after Showell, and on Wednesday I saw him at the Catherine Wheel—he asked if I had seen Showell or Stowell, he did not rightyly know the name—he did not say what he wanted.

NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

2111. JOHN JONES , MARY ( the wife of William ) JONES , and JAMES GLADWIN , were indicted, for that they, on the 11th of Septem ber , falsely made and counterfeited 3 pieces of counterfeit coin, resem bling, and apparently intended to resemble half-crowns.

MR. ELLIS conducted the Prosecution.

JAMES FOGG . I am a Thames-police officer. On the 11th of September, I was at the prisoner Jones's hoiuse, in Propect-place, East-lane, Walworth, Mitchell, Isbester, and two other officers were with me—It was about half-past four o'clock in the afternoon—Mitchell went to the front door; I went to the back door; and when I heard a knock at the front door, which we had agreed upon, I opened the back door, went in, and found the three prisoners in the lower room—the door was on the latch—I saw the female prisoner throw something on the fire, and put the kettle on im mediately, and run out at the back door, but she was afterwards bought back—Jones was sitting with his back to the window, close to the fire, and a table on the left-hand side of him—I ran to the table, and saw a counterfeit half-crown on it—there was a fine clear fire—I took up the half-crown on the table, and it was quite hot—I secured his left hand, and it was full of half-crowns—at that time Mitchellk had got in at the frount door—I gave Mitchell the half-crowns, and some of them were warm—I then secured his right hand, and from that I took nineteen half-crowns, which were not warm—I handcuffed him, and gave him to one of the officers to take care of—I went toward the fire, and Mitchell called me, and said, "Look here, Fogg, before I disturb this—there was half-a-crown mould in the fire, and the impression on it—It is plaster of Paris—It was the woman side of the impression—the reverse side—after that Mitchell took them out of the fire, and put them on the hob—while he was blowing his fingers, as it was hot, Jones put his foot upon the hob, and smashed the mould—I then Left Mitchell, and went to a chest of drawers in the room—I there found a stocking with several counterfeit half-crowns in it, which I gave to Mitchell—both the Jones' hands were black—such a blackness as would result from handling coin—I produce nineteen of the half-crowns, which I put in my pocket—I took them out of Jones's hands.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. If I understand you rightly, the three prisoners were in the room? A. Yes; I think Gladwin was sitting down in the room—he had his hat and a great coat on.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. Had you reason to know that

the two Jones' were man and wife? A. No; I have not made inquiries about them—I do not know whether the officers of the Mint have—there are two rooms in the house—six of us went there—I think there were not seven—I and Mitchell had been at the Masons's Arms public-house before we went there—the other four officers were at another house in the Wal worth-road—there was another person with us at the public-house—he went on his own business—he is a gentleman—I do not think I have a right to answer what he is; he is a respectable tradesman.

WILLIAM ISBESTER . I am in the Thames police. I was with the last witness on the occasion—I went first to a house nearly opposite the prisoner's and I saw from the first floor landing window, the prisoner, John Jones, come to the window with his coat off, his shirt sleeves tucked up, and hold ing in his right hand, something white, which I believe to be a mould—he went away for a few moments, and returned again, holding something in his hand, which I believe to be a whole mould—he was looking towards the end of it, the top—the female prisoner was in the room at the same time, sitting in the window, doing something by the motion of her hand, but what I cannot say, as a curtain went across the window; she was without her gown—this was between eleven and twelve o'clock—and between twelve and one o'clock the same day I saw John Jones come out of the house—he was gone about ten minutes, and then returned with the pri soner Gladwin, they both went into the house; stopped in ten or fifteen minutes, and came out again—Gladwin, John Jones, and an old woman, a child, and the female prisoner all came out—Jones and Gladwin came out first, and the others followed and shut the door—I came out of the house where I was, and saw them part—Gladwin went up a street, and John Jones went a-head, and his wife followed him—this was all on Tuesday the 8th, between eleven and one o'clock.

Q. State what happened on the 11th? A. On the Friday following, I went with Fogg, Mitchell, and the other officer—I got over some palings, about half-past four in the afternoon, and went to the back door of the house with Fogg and another officer—Fogg stopped at the door a few moments, with his finger on the latch, and when he heard a knock at the front door—he opended the door—I followed and went through the room to the door—I unbolted the front door, which was bolted at the top, and let Mitchell in, and went into the room again with him—I have heard what Fogg has said, and agree with it, as far as I was present after the prisoners were secured, on the table next to where John Jones sat, I found a small file, and in a cupboard next to where he sat, on the lower shelf, I found two paper bags, containing, I believe plaster of Paris, and a small paper of what I call fine sand, (but I believe it turns out to be linseed meal, the female prisoner calls it linseed-meal,) and something else with it; and I found in the same cupboard two tin bands.

ALEXANDER MITCHELL . I am a Thames police-constable. I was with the party—Isbester was acting under my orders on the 8th—on the 11th I went to the front door—Isbester let me in—I saw the two prisoners Jones and Gladwin—Fogg had got hold of Jones's hand, and he handed me some counterfiet half-crowns, which I produce—after the prisoners were secured I went to the fire, took off a tea-kettle, and saw some parts of a mould on the fire—one of them lying at the back part, and the half of a mould with the reverse side of a half-crown impressed on it—before I disturbed it, I called Fogg to look at it—as I took it out of the fire, it broke, and with the tongs and my fingers I took all I could see out of the fire and placed it on the hob—my fingers were burnt; and while

I was blowing my fingers, John Jones came behind me—he made either a kick or a bolw with his foot on the hob, and smashed the pieces of the mould more than they were before—I afterwards received from Fogg six crowns and eight half-crowns in a stocking, they are counterfeit—I searched the ashes, and found an iron ladle, with the appearance of white lead in it—on the top of a cupboard or dresser I found the half of half-a-crown, and one metal spoon—on the table by Jones I found five other white spoons—I asked Jones who the house belonged to—he said "I took it;" and pointed to Gladwin, he said, "That old man has nothing to do with it—he knows nothing of my business, or what I do"—I afterwards took the moulds to Mr. Powell, the solocitor, and in my presence they put them together as they are now.

JOHN FIELD . I am inspector of coin to the Mint, and have been so nearly twenty years—I have examined all the nineteen half-crown pro duced by Fogg, they are all counterfeit—those nineteen produced by Mitchell are all counterfeit—and the six crowns produced by Mitchell are all counter feit—the half-crowns are from two different moulds, of the date of 1821 and 1825, in the reigb of George the Fourth—here are eight more half-crowns, and a plaster of Paris mould; on one side of which here is part of the impres sion of the obverse side of a half-crown, and on the other, a very small portion of the reverse; of the reign of George the Fourth, 1825, which is the date of some of the half-crowns—this mould does not appear to me to have been used for castint—here is another plaster of Paris mould for half-crowns—that is broken also but there are portions of the impres sions of the obverse and reverse sides of a half-crown of 1825; it has nearly the entire impression of the reverse side, this appears to have been used considerably, and I believe some of the half-crowns produced have been cast on this mould, for I find some corresponding indentures in the plaster which correspond with some of the half-crowns—here is another mouls for half-crowns also, which appears to be of the date of 1821, the figures are not complete, but here is the 2 and 1 and a portion of the 8, and the type corresponds with the impression of that year—here are two tin bands, such as are usually made use of for forming plaster of Paris moulds, and I believe these moulds have been formed in these bands—these white metal spoons are similar metal to the half-crowns, and that is the usual way coiners provide metal—here is plaster of Paris in powder, in the bag; and a file which is necessary to round off the edge of the coin—I do not know what this sand is used for.

MRS. KNIGHT . I am the wife of Richard Knight, who is owner of this house. It was taken from me in August by Jones and his wife—I do not know the woman to be his wife—Gladwin was with them, and seemed to think it sould suit them very well—he did not do any thing himself—Mrs. Jones always paid the rent.

Cross-examined. Q. How long have you known them? A. Since August—they appeared man and wife, and I thought they were so.

John Jones's Defence. I am entirely innocent of making bad money—I admit they were in my possession.

Mary Jones . I am the wife of John Jones. We were married at Carlow, seven years ago, on the 10th of last March.

JOHN JONES— GUILTY . Aged 30.— Transported for Life .

MARY JONES— NOT GUILTY .

GLADWIN— NOT GUILTY .

There was another indictment against the prisoners for having in their possession a mould on which was impressed the figure of a half-crown; on which no eveidence was offered.

NOT GUILTY .

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

2112. JOHN HARDAWAY and JOHN BROWN were indicted for feloniously assaulting Frederick Temberman , on the 9th of September , with intent to rob him, and his goods and monies, from his person, and against his will, feloniously to steal.

FREDERICK TEMBERMAN . I am a cooper. On the 9th of September I had been drinking at a public-house with a friend—I got drunk, and in going home I lost my way, and met the prisoners, I cannot say where—they tripped me up and put something before my mouth like a handkerchief, and they were about my pockets—one got his hand into my pocket—I was on the ground—a policeman came up—I had never seen them before.

WILLIAM CUDMORE . I am a policman. At one o'clock in the morning of the 9th of September I was at the bottom of Pearl-row, South-street, Borough-road—I observed the prosecutor and two others—the prosecutor appeared drunk—they were all three together on the pavement—I knew the two prisoners, and as I went towards them I saw the prosecutor in the set of getting off the ground—he had been on the ground—the prisoners were standing there—he charged them with throwing him down, putting a handkerchief before his mouth, and putting their hands into his pocket—they said it was false, they had done no such thing, for he had fallen down—I directly took them both into custody, and after I had gone about three hundred yarda I met Piper, and he assisted me—the prosecutor collected himself in the interval, and laid hold of one of the prisoners by the neck of his coat—I found on Hardaway 1 s . 1 1/2 d ., a handkerchief, and an old apron—and on Brown was found some money, and a false nose for the purpose of disguising his countenance.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES . Q. I believe they went very quitely with you? A. Brown did, Hardaway seemed to resist, but Brown per suaded him to go quietly—the prosecutor was drunk—he said he lived at No. 25, Pearl-row—I took him there, and found he had left there a month—I could do nothing but take him back to the station for safety.

Hardaway. When he took hold of me he tore the front of my shirt right out—I told him to take my collar, which he did, and I then went quietly. Witness. If I tore his shirt, it was in the struggle—I am not aware of it.

JAMES PIPER ( police-constable M 83.) I searched Brown at the station, and found 9 1/2 d . and this false nose on him, and some mustachios.

Cross-examined. Q. You found it in his pocket? A. No, in his hat.

FREDERICK TEMBERMAN Cross-examined. Q. Are you sober now? Yes—I cannot say when I was drunk last, but it might be last Wednesday—I have not been drinking since I attended the Grand Jury—I was fined last Wednesday evening, in going home, for being drunk—I cannot say where I had been the night before thos happened—I had not been drinking all night—I cannot say how long I had been drinking—I cannot say when I began—I had not been so tipsy for a good while as I was that night—I began drinking about ten o'clock in the morning—I cannot undertak to swear I had not quarrelled with one of the men before I was knocked down—I did not tumble down, for I was chucked down.

NOT GUILTY .

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Recorder.

2113. WILLIAM MILLS , CHARLES COPPER , and WILLIAM SIMPKINS were indicted for a robbery on Moses Giddins , on the 20th of September , at St. Giles, Camberwell , patting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, 2 sovereigns, 4 shillings, and 1 six pence, the monies of the said Moses Giddins .

MOSES GIDDINS . On the night of the 20th of september I was at the Water loo Arms public-house—I cannot say the time, but I do not think it had gone twelve o'clock—I am a milkman, and live at Camberwell—I had 2 l . 4 s . 6 d . in one pocket when I was in the Waterloo Arms, and 3 s . 6 d . left in another pocket when I came out—there were two sovereigns, four shillings, and a sixpence—Ellis was with me at the Waterloo Arms—I had not pot there, which was all I paid for—I had not been drinking any where else—I paid for one pot on my own account—I had drank with others—I do not know how much I drank—I was sober when I left the Waterloo Arms—I found myself in Waterloo-street and the three prisoners came up with several others—I am sure of the prisoners—when I got opposite them, Mills sung out, " Whitey! " (I had a white coat on)—I was going to make some observa tion; but before I could get the wards out of my mouth, I was knocked down by Mills—he hit me in the mouth with his fist—I had given him no provocation—when I was down I found his hand in my left hand waistcoat pocket; but I cannot swear he took my money—It had been in my left hand waistcoat pocket—Mills had his hand in my pocket, and Cop per came and pitched down on my head—all his body came down on my head—he fell right across my face when I was down—I sung out for my brother to come and assist me—he was in the Waterloo Arms, and Ellis the gardener was round the corner—he heard me halloo out, and came be fore my brother did—Ellis came and pulled Copper off me; and when I got off, Simpkins was at me—he hit at me, but I do not hink he struck me—he hit at me in the row —that was after I called out—all three of them stood in front of me when I got up—when Ellis pulled Copper off my body, all three of them stood before me—Simpkins was with the other two when I was knocked down, but I did not see him do any thing—when I got up, they all hit at me—they did not strike me—when I got out of the crowd I pulled my jacket off, they were all three at me—Copper and Mills hit me—I never swore I knocked two of them down, and afterwards ran away—I could not—I shoved them off the gardener—what I stated before the Magistrate was read over to me, and I put my mark to it—I did not knock two of them down, that I know of—I shoved them down, and they were on the ground, but not with a blow, with a snove—I shoved them with my double fist—there is a difference between striking a man and shoving him—I pushed against them with my clenched fist—as soon as I missed my money I cut away to the station-house—I missed my money after they got off the ground—I put my hand into my pocket, and they were gone—that was the same pocket into which Mills had introduced his hand—I took Mills into custody—the policeman took him in bed—he told me he had not had my money—Mills said he would give me 1 l . on Monday morning, if I would let him go that night—he did not use the word "for give. "

Q. If you have beer taken down to say that he said if you would for give him, it is not true? A. If I would forgive him and let him go—If he had given me 1 l . that night, I should have forgiven him.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. You are what is called a fancy milk-man? A. No; I was never in a row before in my life—I never beat a man named Osaac Benham—I shall not

swear that—I shall not swear any thing about it—I do not think I have had a row with a man since I was at Camberwell—I have been at Camberwell seven months—I do not recollect beating a man named Benham six weeks ago—I cannot recollect whether I did—I will not swear I did not—I was not drunk—I do not know the man—I have not fought a man since I was at Camber well—I do not think I fought with a man six weeks ago—( looking at Benham )—I do not recollect fighting that man, or quarrelling with him—I think I have seen him in my milk-walk—I did not beat him in my walk—very likely I had a row with him—I might have a quarrel with him—I think he is the man I saw in the Joiners' Arms, and I think there was a row there.

Fifth Jury, before Mr. Common Sergeant.

NOT GUILTY

2114. JANE JACKSON was indicted for stealing, on the 4th of Au gust , 2 pillows, value 8 s ., the goods of Elizabeth Tucker .

ELIZABETH ISTEAD . I am the grand-daughter of Elizabeth Tucker. She lodges in my house—the prisoner was her servant—she left on the 5th of August, and I then missed two pillows of my grandmother's.

JOSEPH CLOTHIER . I am a pawnbroker. I produce a pillow pawned on the 1st of August, by Snell.

SARAH SNELL . On the 1st of August I asked the prisoner to lend me a shilling, as I wanted to get something done to take home—she said she could not, but she would go to her landlord and get a shilling, and she went and brought this pillow, which I pledged for two shillings.

Prisoner. That is the truth—I was in great distress—I had no where to go to, and no friend in the world.

GUILTY . Aged 28.— Recommended to mercy by the Jury and Prosecutor.

Confined One Month .

2115. CHARLES PARR was indicted for an assault on Mary Ann Parr , with intent to ravish her.

NOT GUILTY .

NEW COURT .— September 21 st , 22 nd , 23 rd , 24 th , and 25 th .

Before Mr. Common Sergeant.

2116. THOMAS BOLTON , JAMES BARDELL , JOSEPH BAR DELL , RICHARD BIRD , THOMAS BIRD , RICHARD CAR PENTER , WILLIAM COWDEROY , JAMES HILL , JOSEPH JOHNSON , JOHN NEWELL , SAMUEL PEARCE , JOSIAH PARKES , PHILIP SELLICK , ROBERT TREVETT , THOMAS CORBETT , GEORGE DODD , WILLIAM GULLIVER , JOHN GOUGH , THOMAS TREVETT , EDMUND SYLVESTER , JOHN SYLVESTER , and JOHN SMITH were indicted for a conspiracy.

MR. SERGEANT BUMPUS , with MESSRS. WHITEHEAD , and BALL conducted the Prosecution.

AARON BRAY . I am a horse-dealer, and live in Red-lion-yard, Hol born. On the 8th of June I started two omnibuses, to run from Paddington, in Middlesex, to the Bank—I took out two licenses, Nos. 348 and 349—they ran from Paddington along Oxford-street and Holborn—at that time, Thomas Bolton, James Bardell, Joseph Bardell, Richard Bird, Thomas Bird, Richard Carpenter, William Cowderoy, James Hill, Joseph Johnson,

John Newell, Samuel Pearce, Josiah Parkes, philip sellick, and Robert Trevett had omnibuses on that road—my omnibuses started between nine and ten o'clock in the morning, from Paddington—on the first day, I was watching to see my omnibuses come down Holborn, and there were two or three omnibuses with each, hunting them, and driving them on as fast as they could; Trevett's and Bolton's omnibuses in particular, and Mr. Bird's also—I believe there was no other that day—I watched them several other days, and saw them drive close up to he pavement, and drive their poles close up to my omnibns, so that no passenger could get in—on those other days I saw the omnibuses belonging to the other defendants I have named doing so—I do not know that there was one who has not done so—the whole of them have been a continual annoyance—on the 15th, I lengthened one of my omnibuses to Maida—hill, still continuing on the same line of road, through Paddington—on that day, a new omnibus, called "The Emperor," No. 352, with the name of "Edmund Sylvester" on it, started against the one of mine, which ran to Maida—hill; and another, called "The Albion," No. 177, with the name of "Thomas Corbett" on it, started in opposition to the one of mine, which went to Paddington—John Sylvester drove the "Emperor, "and John Smith was the conductor; but whether they did so the first day it started, I cannot tell—Gough drove the "Albion," and one of the Trevett's, (Thomas, I think,) was the conductor—I had observed Cow deroy driving his omnibus the first week, which he every now and then does drive—he was one who ran his pole up against me, and put me on one side, and was annoying me—I saw the other defendants in the first week; and omnibuses would come down from Paddington to where I set out, wait till I came out of my yard, follow my omnibuses up to Paddington, wait till they turned round to go, and then immediately gallop close before them—one day, one of my horses came home with the wheel run over his foot—sometimes there was a pannel broken—I saw Sylvester's omnibus run against my pannel one day in Oxford-street—I have seen them come fol lowing my buses home, without plying for hire; and they would stop for an hour, to see whether we attempted to go out again—this was done frequently, every day almost—about three weeks after we started, there came a very rainy day—one of my buses let water—we took the passengers out, and put them in another bus —I got into the bus that let water, and made them drive it down to the maker's in Whitechapel; and the "Emperor" followed me all the way, and stopped there four hours—John Sylvester drove the "Emperor" there, and John Smith was the conductor.

Q. Did you ever meet any of the defendants any where? Q. Yes; the first I saw of them was Josiah Parkes—I forget when it was but it was near the beginning of my starting—I found him in my yard in Holborn, when I got there, we went into the public-house, and had a glass of brandy-and-water—he told me I was a madman to start if I did not buy times—that the "Pad dington committee" would run me off the road, and ruin me—I said no, I should try—I alterwards saw Trevett, Hill, and Cowderoy, all three together, I think it was on the 4th of July—I had just come home from the bazaar, and got out of the bus, when Robert Trevett came, laid hold of my coat, and said I should go and have something to drink—I said I had not had my dinner, and I seldom took any thing before dinner—he said, would I come back—I said I would—I went back, and Trevett, Hill, and Cowderoy were there, drinking—they asked me whether I meant to do what was rights—I said I meant to stop if I could, and keep on my omnibus they said it

was no use, for their committee was so strong it was no use for one to op pose them—It would cost them about 10 s . a week each man, and it would cost me 20 l . to oppose them, and if I could afford to stand the loss of that I had better stop—I said, "Never mind that, I shall stop as long as I can"—Cowderoy said, "Why don't you buy times, and belong to us?"—I said I never would belong to any committee of that kind while I lived—I would stop, if I could, and Cowderoy said, "Ah, do, old one, start half a dozen, that will soon end it"—they got drinking very hard, and got warm with liquor, but nothing more passed about the omnibuses, except that I should be sure to be ruined; and Hill said, "He is an old one, and has been amongst us many years; we must let him in some how or another"—Cowde roy said, "Why don't you sell him your times?" and Hill said, "I will take five hundred guineas for them"—my son was there at that time—I left them to go home—Hill ran over the road, caught hold of me, and said they had been standing treat to me, and I must to them—I said I wanted no more, but I would give him a glass of brandy-and-water—we went, and Joseph Bardell came to the door—we went out, and spoke to him in the street—he said, "It is of no use your going against this committee; they will ruin you as sure as you are born; go and buy somebody's time"—he said they were such b----y out-and-outers, they would beat anybody, and even if Mr. Horne, or the greatest stage—master in London were to start against the Paddington committee, they would be sure to be beaten—he said, "Hill, why don't you sell him your times?"—Hill said, "I did offer them to him a little while age at five hundred guineas, but I won't take six hundred for them now"—my son was not present at that time—I had no further conversation with Bardell and Hill that night, but I have seen Bardell frequently—he told me they would be sure to best me—they would have nobody there but what belonged to the committee, and bought times—he said he belonged to the committee, but did not often go—Robert Trevett has called upon me three or four times—he has told me it was no use my running, they would suffer no one on the road except they pur chased times—he said I had better purchase times, or I should be ruined—they had ruined several, and they would ruin me—Bolton has called upon me three or four times, and had the same conversation, but he ad vised me at one time to go to Kentish—town—I made a reply that I did not like Kentish—town, as the turnpikes were heavy—he said the turn-pikes should not cost me much, as he was proprietor of the gates—he said it was no use my attempting to go against so many of them, that they paid but a trific a week in, and there was such a body of them it was foolish of any one individual going against so many of them—I do not recollect having any conversation with any of the other defendants—I run on and was losing a great deal of money, till I called a sale at Mr. Allen's, in St. Martin's, on Wednesday, the 29th of July—my omnibuses stopped for that sale on Sunday night the 26th—the other omnibuses continued with me—they came dowm on Saturday morning, the 25th, and followed me all day long—they seldom came on a Sunday—I did not see them on the Monday—my sale took place on Wednesday—I sold five horses—my omnibuses were only on bire—on the Thursday my Paddington one went out again—the de fendants' omnibuses were out that day, but I did not see them—on the Friday I saw the "Emperor" and the "Albion" follow my one bus —they tuco'd him, as they call it, all day, one before and the other behind—selveaterdrove the "Emperor," and I believe Gough drove the "Albion"—I started my other omnibus on the 2nd of August—the other omnibus still

continued to pursue me in the same way as before, or rather worse, as they supposed I was beaten, and they set too with more vengeance against me—one of my omnibuses is on still—the other ceased running on the 30th of August—the whole of this book is not in my handwriting, but I see it every day of my life, either night or morning—It contains the earnings of each bus—I have seen John Sylvester up at Paddington two or three times—he has said, "It is a pity you should go on so; why don't you come and buy time? they will never let you have any time without you come and buy time"—Smith joined in the same conversation—neither of them told me who employed them, but I have seen the same horses working in the "Emperor," and then in Mr. Bolton's omnibuses—and the horses worked in the Albion" in Mr. Trevett's—I have been a horse-dealer thirty-six or thirty-seven years, and have been unfortunate twice.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST . Q. What is your name? A. Aaron Bray; I am not a Jew—I was never in the omnibus trade till the 8th of June—I had been a hackney-coach and cab propritor—I put on two omnibuses—they had no name in particular. but my own name at full length on them—I employed James Raimes, John Lee, henry Mann, and Thomas Travett—I did not know that either of them had been in the ser vice of Robert Trevett, nor do I know it now—they were recommaded to me by a person at Paddington as proper persons to drive my omnibuses—I have heard, since Thomas Trevett has left me, that he is a cousin of Robert Trevetts, and that they had had some words—but I did not hear that he had been in his employment—I knew there was a person of the name of Trevett on the road—I do not know that I ever heard that he had been Trevett's employ—I do not know what Raines had been before he came to my employ—I heard that he had been a pugilist—I have not heard that he had been concerned in a manslaughter case—I never went much into the ring —I was at a fight some years ago—I have been twice a bankrupt—the last time was the latter end of last year or the beginning of this—the first time was about seven years ago—I never compounded with my creditors, nor pro posed to do so—I never gave my drivers any particular directions what to do—they asked me, when they came recommanded to me by Mr. David son, of Paddington, at what time they should come, and where they should go—I said, "Go where you like; I know nothing about the times; you know the business better than I do"—I never gave directions to Lee to keep close to Trevett, or to any one—they said so and so was a good time, giving me the hours, and I said very well—they said, "A quarter be fore ten and two are as good times as you can go;" and I said, "Go at those times"—I knew nothing about whose times they were—I never knew who went at seven, eight, nine, or any other hour.

Q. Did you ever tell Lee or Mann to stick close to Trevett's omnibus? A. Never in my life to stick close to any omnibus—I do not know Mr. Carr, a hatter, who keeps a shop opposite Day and Martin's—I do not re collect being at a hatter's shop opposite Day and martin's, on White Tuesday.

Q. Did you ever use this expression, that you had begun the opposition, and you would stick close to the old thief, Trevett, and take a little of the bounce out of him, let it cost what it would? A. Never in my life—I know budd, the timekeeper at the Bank—I never said in his presence that I would ran against the old cobler and melt his wax—Trevett taxed me with that—he said he had heard from his nepher that I had said those

words—I never gave my men orders to go in any times, nor to stick close to Trevett's omnibuses, because his times were good times.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. How long is it since your first bankruptcy? A. About seven years—I was then a horse-dealer, and in the same yard which I now keep—I purchased the premises about three months afterwards—they took bills for them at different dates—my first divident was 5 s .; there was another about 3 s . 6 d ., and there will be ano ther—I will swear that more than 5 s . has been paid—my second bank ruptey was at the latter end of 1834—there has been no dividend declared on that as yet—It is in the hands of Mr. Green—I cannot tell what my cre ditors will get—Hill asked me to give 500 guineas to buy time—I dare say he knew I was a bankrupt—when a man is unfortunate it is generally known—I hava had conversation with a person of the name of Bardell, the brother of the two Bardells who are indicated—he is a vetrinary surgeon, and a very respectable man—he asked me how I came to indict them—I said it was my attorney's advice, and I could not go from it—my attorney is Mr. Norton—he advised me to indict the Bardells—I went with Mr. Bardell to Mr. Norton's, and there was a conversation about their putting in bail. Q. Now Mr. Bardell is alive, and is here; do you remember his asking Mr. Norton why he advised you to put his two brothers into the indict ment, when they were innocent? A. I do not recollect it—Mr. Norton might have dropped such an expression as, That he was determined they should not be witness for the other defendants—It was not in my presence.

Q. Do you mean that such a villanous expression might be used, and you forget it; such an infamous expression? A. Mr. Norton's answer was, "we have no occasion to press the indictment against your brothers"—Mr. Bardell went on to say something about the bail, and Mr. Norton said, "The indictment has no occassion to be pressed against your brothers; they have not much to fear; but you must put in bail"—he said that after advising me to include them in the indictment.

Q. Was any thing said about a hundred pounds? A. Never to me, or to Mr. Bardell in my presence, upon my oath; nor did Mr. Norton say that he put the Bardells into the indictment that they should not be wit nesses, nor anything to that effect—Mr. Norton did not tell me why he put the Bardells in the indictment—I went to him to indict the Paddington committee, and he indicted whom he pleased—I appointed with Mr. Bar dell to meet him at Mr. Norton's—I went there to meet him—he got there first.

Q. Did Norton say that their names must remain in the indict ment; his object was to prevent their being witnesses; because, if they were ommitted, the paddington proprietors would subpœna them against Bray? A. Never, sir; nor that their evidence would be of importance, I having commissioned Joseph Bardell to raise 100 l . to take my omni buses iff the road, and discontinue further opposition; and if he could not get 100 l ., to take 50 l ., and they to take my stock at a valuation—there was not a word said about it—we were there half an hour, talking about the indictment a little, but the most was about putting in bail.

Q. Upon your oath. was not the appointment to go to Norton with Bar dell to try to get his brothers out of the indictment? A. No; the agree ment was for Mr. Norton not to oppose the bail, but take them on Mon day—there was nothing said about getting his brothers out of the indict ment—I never in any way wanted money to settle this business.

Q. Did Nonton say in Mr. Bardell's presence, that if the proprietors did not consent to your proposition, he would ruin Bolton, Pearee, Bird, and Trevett, or he would have his heart out and his limbs broken? A. No: Bardell was not desired to ask his brothers if the proprietors would come to terms—I saw Mann this morning—I do not know whether he is a wit ness for me—he is one of the persons who complained that he was hunted—I never gave Mann directions to drive against Bolton—not any person—I do not know this man ( looking at a man named Archer )—I never saw him before, to my knowledge.

Q. Did you ever say to your conductor, in Archer's presence, "Go on wwith that omnibus ( pointing to one ), and stick to him; I will have the shirt off his back before I have done with him?" A. Never in my life—I know Parish, the policeman, No. 45—I never had any conversation with him about this—I do not know that ever he was obliged to lead my omni bus out of the way—I know No. 7 has—I never spoke to him in the Poultry about my opposition, to my knowledge—I know a person named Alexander—I have no recollection of mentioning the name of Alexander to Parish.

Q. Do you recollect his saying that you could not expect the people would let you take the bread out of their months withour giving you some trouble? A. No; I think I have heard such words, but I think it was from No. 7, not from Parish.

Q. Did you say, "I should have been very well off, if Alexander had not put me in the hold?" A. I said I should have been better off if Alexander had come out with me, as he promised—I possibly might say we should have made the Paddington masters look about them—I have been summoned two or three times by the police for causing an obstruction—I have heard of the names of Colson and Wilson as time-keepers—I have seen Colson, and spoken to him.

Q. Have you ever said this in his presence, That unless you could receive 100 l . from the proprietors, you would indict them all fro a conspi racy, and ruin them? A. Never in my life to any soul—I remember two of Trevett's mem being taken into custody.

Q. Do you remember using this expression, in the presence of Colson, that you had been as good as your word; it was not the men you wished to hurt, as you could get nothing out of them, but their masters, and that the law must take its course, unless you were paid 100 l . to take your omnibus off?" A. Never, to any man upon earth—I have spoken to Bates, the policeman, No. 7—he has summoned my driver two or three times fro obstructing the road and he summoned me twice, once was for taking time at the Bank—he said I should not take time—my man got off by paying 5 s .—I was summoned to Marlborough-street—one of Mr. Bol ton's omnibuses ran against mine—my son got into a gallop, and they were both had up —It is the men that are summoned, but the master always at tends, and if they are fined he pays it—I know Bates has often told me of my men doing wrong—I said, "Then summons them, I have nothing to do with it; I have spoken to my men about it, and they said they did no such thing"—I cannot tell whether Mann is here—I have not subpœnaed him—I was not afraid that he would tell the jury that I ordered him to drive against Bolton—I never said so—nor about getting 100 l .—I know the policeman, No. 13—I do not know his name—I recollect his having two persons in custody one night at the Mansion-house.

Q. Did you say on that occasion, this, or any thing like this—that you

would have all the omnibuses removed from the Bank; and you would be d----d if you did not line the street with buses , if it cost you five hundred pounds? A. Never—I mean distinctly to swear I never used to that man any such expression, but I remember his having the men very unlawfully taken up—their words were taken to come on Monday.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. About how many witnesses have been subpœnaed by Mr. Norton in this case? A. A great many—I have heard fifty or sixty—there were only four witnesses went before the Grand Jury and only two of them were heard—the amount of debts at my first bankruptey was about 5000 l . or 6000 l ., and the second time not 1500 l .—I have not paid fifteen shillings in the pound on either commission.

Q. Are you aware that, not having paid 15 s ., you are not in point of law, entitled to any property? A. No, Sir—I succeeded to my stable in about three months after my first commission—I never left it the second time—It was mortgaged to my bankers, and they let me remain.

Q. Was Thomas Bird a creditor under your second commission? A. Not that I know of—I do not know the man—I have no recollection of his name for a penny—I never got into his debt—I had some bills of exchange out, but very few—I have no recollection of Bird's name in either of my bankrupteies, or in any kind of dealing—I did not enter a bill of Bird's for a backney-coach—I have no recollection of it—I hired my omni buses of Mr. Boswell, in Aldgate High-street—I set them up on the 8th of June—I paid part of the hire of them 17 l ., having had them twelve weeks—I had my buses ordered before Alexander had any idea of coming out—he then told me he was coming out—I did not agree with him to bring out omnibuses.

Q. What did you mean by saying just now, if he had come out as he agreed? A. No, Sir, "as he said he would," I did expect him to come out with me, and I thought he was coming out on that day, but I heard after wards the Paddington committee had given him 100 l ., to stop him—I consulted with Mr. Norton a very little time after I started, I believe about three weeks—he had been my attorney before—I have heard that forty or fifty omnibuses ran from the Bank to Paddington before I set up; but I do not know.

Q. Did you not state in your own yard, to Mr. John Bardell, that you did not wish to indict the Bardells at all, but your lawyer said they must be in the indictment as he had a reason for it? A. I said I had no animosity against them—I did not say I did not wish to indict them at all—I told them Mr. Norton said they must be in the indictment, he had a cause for putting them in—I did not say I did not know the rea son, but if he would meet me at Mr. Norton's I would go and see if I could not get them out—I did not go to Mr. Norton's for any such pur pose—I went to Mr. Norton's on a Sunday, with Mr. John Bardell—I do not recollect his asking Mr. Norton why he had put his brothers in the in dictment—I will swear it was not said in my presence—I do not recollect Mr. Norton being questioned as to whether they could not get out of it—there was very little said—we were not there ten minutes—I will swear I did not hear Mr. Norton say their names must remain in the indict ment his object being to preven their being witnesses for the defence—I will swear I never heard it; nor that their evidence against them would be of importance.

Q. Have you ever said to any body that you would have times or 100 l .?

A. Never in my life—I did not know the different times when I started—I had John Lee in my service, and William Beales.

Q. Did you not direct both Lee and Beales to run in oppsition to Bind and Johnson, and nut to leave them till they had your orders, if they did not earn one shilling? A. Never—I belive they have been in every one's time, but I never gave them order's except not to go in the women's time, (there are some female properties)—that was about a month or five weeks before the prosecution commenced.

Q. Have you not sworn to Mr. Phillips that you never gave them any specific directions at all, but that they ran when they pleased, and did as they liked? A. Yes, they did—I have never, on any occasion, directly or indirectly, by myself or Mr. Nortson, sought or agreed to settle this matter if I could get money paid me—I did not, after the 8th of June, give direc tions to Lee to run my omnibus against Bird and Johnson.

Cross-examined by MR. KNOWLES . Q. Do you know Thomas Parker? A. Yes; he is foreman to Mr. Aldridge—I might see him about the 5th of this month, with the two Bardells, and there might be a conversation about this indictment—I told them I had no animosity against them, but their names must be in the indictment.

re-examined. Q. You were a bankrupt the first time, about seven years ago? A. Yes; I obtained my certificate about two months after wards—I did not leave my premises—they took bills at certain dates, which were afterwards paid—the second time I was a bankrupt, was about ten months ago—I had lost 900 l . in three weeks, by bad debts, which was the case of my being a bankrupt—I got my certificate on the 15th of January—every one of my creditors signed it, who had proved—I do not know where Lee or Mann live—I live nearly oppsite Day and Martin's, within a few doors—I hardly know what the meaning of a time is—I understand it is to start three minitues before another—If my omnibus started from the Bank at ten o'clock in the morning, it would go to Padding ton, and it would stop there for half perhaps—they went just as they could—that would necessarily interfere with different times.

COURT . Q. Tell us every thing that was said by you to John Bardell? A. He asked me if I would go with him to get Mr. Norton to take the bail for his brother, without some certificate, or something; I forget what; and would I go and advise Mr. Norton to do so, without giving any trouble; and I did so—he did not ask me why the Bardells were made defendants—when I went with him he complained of Mr. Norton having refused the bail, and asked whether, if he were there on Monday, prepared with the bail, he would take it; and 1 told Mr. Norton not give them any more trouble, but to take their bail—I did not want to be litigious ducting himself wrong to my buses.

ROBERT BRAY . I am the prosecutor's son. On the 8th of June, my father commenced running two omnibuses, Nos. 348 and 349—I have been coachman to both of them—I began about three weeks after they started, but I was repeatedly with them before—I rode on horseback with them—the drivers of the other omnibuses tried to oppose us and to injure us, by pulling up against us—they would cross us and go before our buses, and their conductors would jump down, if passengers bailed us, to get them away from our buses —the names of the present defendants were on those omnibuses—Bolton had five on the stones, Bardells, 1 think, had four, Richard Bird had two, Thomas Bird had two, Carpenter had two, Cowderoy had sometimes five sometimes six, Hill had two, I believe—John son,

I think, had three, Newell had three, Pearce had three, Parkes had three or four, Sellick had three, and Trevett two—they were all run ning on the road before the 15th of June, and it was them which so annoyed us—on the 15th of June, the "Albion" and the "Emperor," op position omnibuses, were put on—I cannot exactly remember who was the coachman of the "Albion," but John Gulliver drove it, and when he did not, some odd man did; George Dodd was the conductor; John Gough has driven it, and Trevent been the conductor—I do not know his christian name—I believe it is Robert—the name on the "Albion" was Thomas Corbett, No. 177, and on the "Emperor" was the name of Edmund Syl vester—It was No. 352—the driver of that was John Sylvester, and the conductor John Smith—these two followed us every where we went, and the other omnibuses still pursued the same line of conduct as they had before—when we stopped, the opposition omnibuses stopped also—I saw that done on the 15th—about three weeks after that I began driving—I think No. 348 was the first I drove—I cannot tell which of the opposition omnibuses accompained that—I think it was the "Emperor"—but one of them did, and sometimes both of them—we started from the Wheatsheaf, at Paiddington, and went to the Bank, and the opposition omnibuses accom pained us, if we stopped they stopped also—If we turned round, they would turn and follow us up the by-streets and any where else—If I met any of the other omnibuses they would stop with me also, so that I had always two with me.

COURT . Q. Tell us any street into which you turned and they followed you? A. we went at nine or ten o'clock, one Sunday evening, to Mr. Savory's, on the other side Camden-town, near the Regent's-park, on pur pose to see if they would follow us—we stopped there till very nearly two o'clock in the morning—the "Emperor" followed us, and remained there all the time—John Sylvester drove it, and Smith was the conductor.

MR. BALL . Q. Did you go to Whitechapel? A. No, I went to Marylechone police-office, which is out of my beat, and the "Emperor" ac compained me there, and stopped all the time I stopped—I broke down twice, and they stopped at the same time—I once broke dewn in the New-road, and once in the Edgware-road, both out of our road, and they stopped with us, and followed us home—we lengthened one of our omnibuses, No. 349, to Maida-hill—I think on the 6th of July—I drove that at time—the "Emperor" followed me that very day, and pursued the same kind of conduct us before, in running before me—In going to Maida-hill I went through Paddington—If in driving I came within Bolton's times, I had his five omnibuses with me also—he had three minute's time—I think his first time was a quarter before ten o'clock, and he had two three minutes after that—If I came within his first time he would hang back, and take a minute or two of the other man's time, and the other one would hurry to make his time up; so that I had two with me, and very likely three or four—If I came within Bardell's time, they would hang back upon me in the same manner—Richard Bird did the same—Thomas Bird the same—Carpenter, Cowderoy, Hill, Johnson, and Newell did the same—It was he followed me out of my road a day or two after the sale, up Hinde-street, and two or three other streets which I turned up to get out of their way, as they were hunting us so much—Pearce did the same—Parker and Sellick the same—l never saw Robert Trevett drive, but I have seen him on the box of the "Emperor"—I have heard him halloo to them to "Keep at him," and cheering them on—I believe the "Albion" used to put up at night at Trevett's stable, but I did not see it—they used to follow me to

the yard at night, and turn round to see if I was coming out again—they would wait for an hour, and very often for two or three hours—when I started in the morning, I have met them at the corner of Southamptom-street, waiting for me, which is within fifty yards of Red-lion-yard, but they generally used to stop at the corner of Edgeware-road—I have gone up Southampton-street, and gone the back way to Paddington, and they have followed me that way—whenever they met me they were sure to follow me—on the 4th of July I went to the White Horse after my father—I saw Cowderoy, Trevett, and Hill there—I believe they had sent for my father over there—I heard Cowderoy say, "That is right, old one, start half-a-dozen, it will soon bring it to a close; we are such b----y rum ones, and such out-and-outers" —and Mr. Hill said, "The old one is a right one, he ought to be one, he is an old hackney-coach master"—Robert Travett was present at the time, and he had some conversation with him, but I did not exactly hear what it was—they were each of them drinking a great deal, and got pushing each other about in their chairs—Mr. Trevett said, "Why don't you buy a time?"—my father said, "No, I never intend buying a time"—Mr. Trevett said, "It is no good your trying to beat us, for we are such out-and-outers you can't beat us"—I did not hear any thing said about 10 s .—Richard Bird has abused me very much on the bus —he said he wished my b—y bus was smashed all to pieces—he once said so at the corner of the New-road and once in the City—he said that after the "Zebra," Mr. Johnson's bus , had run against the pannel of our bus —I was not with it at the time, but I saw the damage that was done—I dined at Woodgate's, the Royal Oak, pretty nigh every day—I rather think I missed one day—I do not know what street it is in, but it is out of the road—we took our omnibus there, and the other accompanied us—the driver and con ductor of that omnibus very often dined at the same place that we did—we did—we put up our omnibus at Mr. Davis's—we remained there sometimes half an hour, and sometimes two hours, or more, and the "Emperor" always remained exactly the same time, and started at the same time—It did not go to any yard—It remained outside the door—when we have been going along the road and had not any passengers, we have very often turned off, and sup posing they had any passengers they would give them away to another bus and turn round and catch us—I have very often gone a mile or two out of my way to see if they would catch me, and they have always come after me and found me—when I have wanted to take up passengers, they have tried to get them into their own bus —I remeber our calling for Mr. Hillhouse, the surgeon, in Oxford-street, and he requested to be set down at his own door, which is in Holborn—he said that aloud, as he was sitting on the box with me, and the "Emperor" pulled up at his door, and I could not put him down there—If any ladies wanted to come in, they would try to pull before me, so that I should not pull up to the curb-stone to take them up—If a lady had a child in her arms, they would run and take the child out of her arms, and put it into their bus , that I should not get the fare—I have seen Joseph Bardell beckon for his buses to come up and fol low me when I have been driving—I have heard John Sylvester say, when he has met Mr. Bolton, "There goes our governor"—Sylvester has said to me, "You had better have bought a time: you have lost a great deal of money now, and a little more would have bought a time"—he has said, "We have times to sell; we want 160 l . a piece for them"—he said Mr. Newman had lost 600 l . and he wished he had bought a time—I said we should never buy a time—he said it was no use our going on;

they should be sure to ruin us—he said they were ordered to follow us wherever we went, and to stop out till ten o'clock at night—(they very often wished me to go to Edgeware, and dared me to go forty or fifty miles into the country, and they would follow)—he has also said it was not use to run in opposition against the Paddington committee, they were so strong—I have not heard Smith say as much as that—he has said, when he has met Mr. Bolton, "That is our governor," or, "Do you see our governor?"—our conductor was Joseph Raines—we stopped on the 26th of July—they had continued to follow us till that day—I think that day they stopped at Paddington—my father came out again on the 29th, and I went out on the 30th with No. 348—the "Emperor" accomopained me then—my omnibus broke down; and when I drove the other bus the four o'clock journey, they both accompained me—If a passenger tried to get in, they would jump down, and try to persuade him to get into their bus

Q. During the time that this opposition was going on, did you see Cow deroy drive? A. Yes, several times—he drove his own bus , and his con duct was as much against me as could be to prevent my getting passen gers—I have seen Newell conducting his own bus , and his conduct to me has been the same as the others, trying to get the passengers into his own bus —when I have come in their time, or before their time, they would hurry on to catch me, and then keep with me—they would run over any other man's time to keep up with me—It was Newell's that followed me out of the road.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. Did Richard Bird, Thomas Bird, Cowderoy, or Johnson, ever drive out of their road against you? A. No—they are proprietors, having their own times—when I drove in their times, they ran with me; and they have come out with me, and stopped beyond their own time—I never saw either of them conduct or drive the "Albion" or the "Emperor," but they have cheered them on to go on against me—It was the "Albion" and the "Emperor" which fol lowed me wherever I went—I have played at skittles once or twice with the men—I have played at skittles at the Royal Oak, with John Sylvester and Brush , that is Smith—I have played five or ten minutes—I have been there while the game was going on—I will swear I have not played half-a-dozen games—I have dined with Sylvester and Smith, and drank together at dinner—I went to Wales' tea-gardens, at Bayswater—they followed me there, and I think I had one game at skittles—there were seven or eight besides them; that was after business—I went there for pleasure, and to see if they would follow me—we played together, and I think drank together—I do not recollect being at any other places with them—I have drank wine with Mr. Trevett, close to his stable, at Mr. Gamble's—It was some time in June—I went down there, and Mr. Trevett asked me to take a glass of wine with him—he asked me to treat his men—he treated them with some, and I treated them with some.

Q. That was while all this wickedness was going on? A. It was at the beginning of it—I did not hear Trevett on that occasion complain that my father had set up an omnibus in opposition, when he knew that the times were filled up—I did not hear any one say so—my father has no partner—he never had one—he never drove an omnibus, but he has one now, which he bought about a fortnight after he began, at the time he was so much annoyed by the other two—I do not know exactly who he bought it of—I believe he had seen Mr. Norton several times before he bought it—I cannot say who he bought it of—he got the money by earning it—I

did not hear my father say who he bought it of—I never saw it before me father had it—I do not know that Mr. Norton had any thing to do with in—I do not know that Mr. Norton ever had any thing to do with omnibuses—I knew a man named Lyons, when we sold him horses—I do not know that he is a friend of Norton's—one of the Lyons did drive for us—I do not know whether my father bought the omnibus of him, or whether Norton found the money—I cannot tell how many omnibuses were on the road between Paddington and the Bank—when my father set up, there were between twenty and thirty; there might be more—there were tune keepers on the road—I do not know what their business was—when my father's omnibus started, we did not go at any particular time—we went when we could get a load—we tried to start at nine o'clock, but found we could not get a load—I knew there were times at which the different omnibuses ran, but I did not know at what time they went.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE . Q. I understand your father's omni buses started on the 8th of June, and there was no opposition till the 15th? A. Yes there was; but the "Emperor" and the "Albion" did not start till then—Newell's omnibus followed us out of the line of road—I do not know that my father's omnibus, on the first day it started, went out of the line to Market-street, near Trevett's stable, and waited till his omnibus came out, and stuck to it all day—I did not accompany my father's omni bus all the way that day—I do not know that, one thursday, one of my father's omnibuses went out of the way to Bolton's stable, and waited for his omnibus, and hunted that all day—I never heard it from my father—such a thing could not have happened on the regular road without my seeing it—I could not help driving close to some of the other omnibuses—I did not drive my pole through Mr. Gaywood's omnibus—they threw their door open, and caught my wheel, and broke their door—I did not know that there were quite enough omnibuses on that road, before my father startede his—we have not put passengers out of our omnibus, to turn and hunt these other omnibuses.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN . Q. You say that Newell's omnibus followed you, was he driving on that occasion? A. No.

Cross-examined by MR. DOANE . Q. Have you been in your father's employ as a horse-dealer? A. Yes; I have been with him ever since I was born—I do not know that before we started, there was an omnibus went every three minutes—we live opposite Day and Martin's—some omnibuses stop there, but I do not know that I they all do—I cannot say whether there is one stops every three minutes—I went backwards and forwards with my father's omnibus—the first week I watched them, my father merely gave me instructions to keep them steady—I do not know the omnibus, No. 245—I do not know George Hoby and Robert Weston, the driver and conductor of it by name—I may know them by sight—I drove my father's omnibus latterly—I might have driven half a journey about a fortnight after they started—I never saw my father's omnibus follow No. 245, or any other omnibus, but I have seen others follow my father's—when our omnibus drove against Gaywood's, they were not running against us, as they were standing at the bottom of Holborn-hill, and they threw the door open before I had time to pull up.

EDWARD MANSELL . I went into the service of Mr. Bray on the 8th of July—I was then conductor to his L'addubgton omnibus, No. 348—I have driven both Nos. 348 and 349—I am still in his service—I drive No. 349 now—the "Albion" used to follow and accompany No. 348 wherever it

went—I know Bolton, the two Bardells, richard Bird, thomas bird, Caroeb ter, cowderoy, Hill, Johnson, Newell, Pearce, Parkes, Sellick, and Trevett's omnibuses—they all have obstructed and opposed me—they have drawn before me, and put their poles close to my door—sometimes I have been in one time, and sometimes in another, and whichever time I have been in they hyave gone before me—when a passenger was coming they would put their pole up to my door, so that a passenger could not get in—John Hit chings, (that is Gough,) and Thomas Trevett have abusede my inside pas singers—at the corner of Regent-street—they have driven their pole close enough to alarm any female who was getting in—they have stopped be fore me, so as to obstruct my going on—If there were two carts, they would stop between them to prevent my passing—that has frequently been the case—I remember Mr. Bray's omnibuses being given up for a time—It was on the 27th of July—I saw Gough get off his box, and I saw Trevett go into a shop—I then saw blue ribbons on the "emperor" and "Albion"—both Gough and Trevett were with the "Albion"—I cannot say who was with the "Emperor," but I saw them driving one after the other—I have seen the "Emperoro" put up at night at Mr. Bolton's yard, in North-wharf road—I do not know whether he lived there—one night, after my bus had gone home, I rode home with Trevett and Gough in the "Albion," to Trevett's yard, and we had a glass of something to drink—that might be ten days or a fortnight before the bus was stopped—when I have been driving, Trevett has interfered with my passengers, and told them I was go ing to Charing-cross, by which means I have had several passengers refuse going with me—I saw persons in the omnibus when they had the blue ribbon, but I cannot say who they were—I still continue with Mr. Bray's bus, and the "Emperor" still continues to follow me.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. Were you on the road before Mr. Bray started? A. I was on the Elephant and Castle road—I know ther were no opposition buses on the Paddington road.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST . Q. You drank together? A. They came to the same house, but at last we quarrelled; we then went to another house, and they followed us there—we dined in the parlour by ourselves, and then they went back to the house where they had been be fore; we went to Mr. Friend's, a gin-shop—when I first went I have played a game at skittles with them, and we dined together.

JAMES RAYNER . I was conductor to one of Mr. Bray's blue buses —I began on the 8th of June—we were obstructed by the other omnibuses on the road—the "Emperor" and "Albion" were put on about a week after we began—I became conductor to No. 349, which went on to Maida-hill, and the other omnibuses continued the same mode of obstruction—the "Em peror" followed me when I went out of the way—on one ocoasion it fol lowed me up to Mr. Savory's, at Portman-town—It waited till near two in the morning—the "Emperor" followed me out of the road on several oc casions; if we turned round, they turned round with us—about six weeks after I started, the "Emperor" broke the door-pannel of our omnibus with his pole—he came after us rather too sharp, and the pole ran up against our door, and broke the pannel—I saw the blue ribbons on their horses' heads in the Edgeware-road—I rode on the steps of the "Emperor" to Thomas Bird's yard, on the 27th, between eleven and twelve o'clock in the morning—I saw Mr. Hill in the omnibus—I did not notice any body else—he went and asked if Mr. Bird was at home—I do not know what answer he received—I left them at the yard.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST . Q. Do not you recollect re ceiving orders from Mr. Bray to go against Trevett? A. I do not re collect it—he said he did not understand the business; he left it entirely to his men to go in what times they liked—I received a direction to go in whose time I thought proper—I do not recollect receiving positive direc tions from Mr. Bray to go against Trevett—I was conductor to the om nibus driven by Lee—I do not recollect going with Mann—there has been two Mann's at work—we did not receive directions from Mr. Bray to go against Trevett in particular—he said Trevett's time was a very good time, and so was Mr. Bird's, and wer could not do better than go in them—Lee was present when Mr. Bray gave those directions—I did not tell Teevett I had orders to go in his time, nor I did not hear Lee tell him so—I first went with the omnibus on a Monday—the regular line is from the Wheatsheaf to Bank.

Q. On that day did you go down Market-street, to the place where Mr. Trevett's omnibuses put up? A. I do not know whether it was the first day—I certainly went to a public-house there, to dine, close by where Trevett puts up—that is out of the line of road—I remember going there several times.

Q. Do you remember when you went triumphantly down Market-street, saying, "We will soon dish up the old Snob, we will soon melt his wax for him?" A. I did not say much a thing, nor hear such a thing—there was no one in my omnibus—I have not boasted that I would melt the cobler's wax.

JURY . Q. Had you orders from Mr. Bray to go down Market-street? A. No, Sir; we went where we pleased to drive, and they followed us.

MR. PRENDERGAST . Q. But you followed them when you went to their house? A. It was Mr. Gamble's house we went to—I know Trevett's men go to that house occasionally—I dined with two or three of them there that day—It is a house where coachmen and omnibus-men generally go.

Q. Do you mean to swear that they go out of their line of road? A. We were not plying for passengers—we went to have our dinner.

JURY . Q. Was the observations about the time when you first began, or afterwards? A. Afterwards.

MR. PRENDERGAST . Q. Had you know Mr. Bray before you were en gaged by him? A. I had never seen him—I was recommended to him by Mr. Davidson, and am in his employment still—I have been in the ring—there is not a warrant against me now for manslaughter, for killing a man in a boxing match—I do not deny that I was severn years ago at Hammersmith—I remember Paddy Flynn and another being transported—I have fought two or three battles.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE . Q. You have said the pole of the "Emperor" was driven into your pannel A. Yes; that was in conse quence of my pulling up suddenly, to prevent running over somebody, I believe.

Q. Now with respect to this public-house near Trevett's stable, did you not wait there, colse to Trevett's yard, till his omnibus came out, and then go with them? A. We went with them to town and back.

COURT . Q. The question was, did you wait? A. We did not parti cularly wait for them—we went with them when they went.

MR. PAYNE . Q. Did you not follow one of Trevett's? A. I do not recollect seeing one of them—we came away at the same time.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. I think Lee, Mann, and Beals were servants of Mr. Bray as well as yourself? A. Yes.

Q. Have you not told Mr. Bird, when you were running your omni buses against his, that you should not have done it but you had received orders? A. I certainly received orders to go in his time, as well as Mr. Trevett's, as it was a very good time.

Q. Now I give you notice that Lee and Beals are here; upon your solemn oath, have you not said that to Mr. Bird? A. No, Sir; I have not said any thing to him in particular—I have not told him I was sorry to oppose him—I never had any any conversation with either of the Mr. Birds about going in their times.

JURY . Q. Had you orders to go in Mr. Bird's time? A. I had.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. Did you not assign that as a reason to Mr. Bird? A. No; Birds name was mentioined to me, and Trevett's and Johnson's was also mentioned by Mr. Bray.

Q. Then if Bray has sworn that he never directed any servant of his to run in opposition, or in the time of any body by name, has he not sworn what is wickedly false? A. I do not know what Mr. Bray has sworn—I worked for Mr. Bray before he bought the third omnibus—I do not know who he bouoght it of—I have not known Mr. Norton till within the last month—I have seen him about Mr. Bray's premises since that time—I have never been in any trouble myself—I have not for a long period get my living by fighting—I have fought pitched battles for money—I know Lyons, he used to be an omnibus proprietor.

Re-examined. Q. You never saw Mr. Norton till the last month? A. No—the directions I first received from Mr. Bray, were to go in what time I liked; as he did not know what time, he would leave it all to his men—about the first or second weeek after I went, he said that Bird's and Trevett's were very good times, we could not do better than to go in their times—their time was about nint o'clock in the morning, or a little after—It is just upon seven years since I fought my last pitched battle—I never killed a man in my life—I was present at a fight where a man was kille, and two men were transported for it.

HENRY SWAITZER . I am a clerk in the Stamp Office. On the 15th of June, Thomas Bolton, in the name of John Bolton, obtained a supple ment license, in the name of Edmund Sylvester; and at the same time, Robert Trevett obtained a supplemental license, adding the name of Thomas Corbett to his own—the first was for the "Emperor," and the second for the "Albion;" and on the 6th of July, Bray obtained a sup plemental license, to go to Maida Hill—and on the same day, Bolton and Sylvester obtained a supplemental license, lengthening the distance for the "Emperor" to Maida Hill.

WILLIAM NASH . On the 27th of July, I saw an omnibus and the horses had blue ribbons—I cannot tell the number of the omnibus, nor who drove it—I did not see either of the defendants there, to the best of my knowledge—I know Mr. Cowderoy—I do not recollect that I have drank with him—I saw him at the Feathers that day, I believe—I do not recollect seeing him in the box of the omnibus when the horses had blue ribbons—I cannot recollect who I saw—I am in the habit of standing at my gate, and seeing them go past.

SARAH TURNBULL . I was the proprietor of an omnibus, which ran from Paddington to the Bank, but I have not been so for nine months past, There was a committee of the Paddington omnibus proprietors, they called them

selves a commitee—I belonged to it before I ceased to be proprietor—I was a member of the committee—I certainly went at times, but very seldom—I went three or four times—I believe it generally consisted of the whole of the propietors of the omnibuses running from paddington to the Bank over the stones—they met at the New Inn—I have been there, and at the Lion in the Edgeware-road—I have at times received notices to go—I can not recollect whether they were printed or written—the times of meeting were very distant indeed—I seldom or ever went—I was a proprietor from the commencement of the running on the stones, which was in 1832—I know Mr. Bolton—I have seen him at the committee, and James and Joseph Bardell, Richard Bird, Thomas Bird, Carpentor, Cowderoy, Hill, Johnson, Newell, pearce, parkes, Selick, and Robert Trevett—It only consisted of proprietors—the last time I was at the committee there was a demand made upon me for 60 l . or 70l—I ceased to be a proprietor nine months ago—I disposed of it altogether to my son, but I have not settled with him—we drew no agreement at all.

Cross-examined by MR. CLARKSON . Q. Does not that consist of your good-will obtained from running your omnibuses at certain hours from Pad dington down to the Bamk? A. Certainly.

Re-examined. Q. There were certain times allotted to you to run; what times werethey, three minutes? A. Yes; I had six times allocated to me in the day—the other parties were not allowed to run at the same minutes—If any strangers have interfered, I was to do the best I could with them—I believe strangers have interfered, I do not recollect—there were arrangements made by the committee if a stranger interfered, but I can hardly tell what, as I so seldom attended—I do not recollect being there when any stranger had interfered—It is some time since I was there—I cannot tell whether, when I was there last, anything was stated by the committee of any arrange ment having been made before, of what was to be done when any stranger interfered—there was none that I recollect.

BENJAMIN BALL I am a perfumer, and live in Oxford-street. I have observed Mr. Bray's omnibuses, and the conduct of the other omnibuses towards them—I know the "Emperor" and the "Albion"—we have been very much annoyed by these omnibuses running one against another—about six weeks back I wanted to get into Bray's omnibus, and the "Em peror" came right against the steps, so as to prevent my getting in—I have seen such conduct on several occasions—the "Emperor" and the "Al bion" appeared to obstruct Mr. Bray's omnibuses by running—when any person wanted to get into Mr. Bray's, the "Emperor" would run across the steps, sometimes their pole came almost on the pavement.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Has Mr. Bray's gone at a quick pace along the street? A. Yes, Sir; I have seen it go at a quick pace—I have seen it run to get out of the way of the others—I have not seen it racing parallel with them, because they have gone before him or behind his—he has gone about six miles an hour—I will not swear he has not gone eight—I never knew of their doing anything improper—I should not be surprised if they had been summoned for furious driving; that is what oc curs every day.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST . Q. Do you mean that the "Emperor" and the "Albion" drew up? A. It was the "Emperor" that drew up—the "Albion" impedes by getting before the omnibus—I have seen them both with it—I have generally seen the "Emperor" be hind, and the "Albion" before—I think so—I think there are several om nibuses called by those names.

COURT Q. You have observed these omnibuses, and the "Em peror" and "Albion" constantly; upon your oath, can you state that the "Em peror" and "Albion" have been impeding Bray's, or did Bray's annoy them? A. I have seen the "Emperor" oppose Bray's omnibus—that is what I swear to—I could not swear to the driver of the "Emperor"—I put down the number—It is 352.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. When did you make any communication to Mr. Norton? A. I do not know him—I was supcenaed to attend to give evi dence—I never gave evidence but in this Court—I have talked of it to my neighbours—I saw Bray last night—I never saw him before—I did not speak to him.

MR. PRENDERGAST . Q. What is the number of the "Albion?" A. 177—I marked it on the back of my subpœna.

RICHARD TEMPLE . I am a brazier and oilman, and live in Prince's-street, Cavendish-square. I know Mr. Bray's omnibus—I have seen it when one of Bolton's omnibuses has been before it, and one of Bardell's along with it—I spoke to young Bray—he nodded to me—he then turned round and went back again, up Oxford-street, and Bolton's followed him—I told the coachman, who happened to be young Mr. Bray, that what I had seen I should be most happy to say in any Court afterwards—I have seen Bolton's following Mr. Bray's about—I saw it last Saturday.

JOHN RAWLINGS . I am a linen-draper, and live at No. 133, Oxford-street. I have noticed Bray's omnibus, in their way from Paddington, along Oxford-street, for some months—I have seen it almost daily—I have noticed the conduct of other omnibuses towards it, the "Emperor" for one—they were chasing Mr. Bray's; one was before and one behind—I cannot recollect what was the name of the other omnibus—the one before ob structed him in his buisness, and the one behind interfered with the pass engers who wanted to get in—I have seen that frequently—they pulled the people away frequently—their pole was nearly close to the door, so as to prevent any person getting in—I cannot say that I have noticed any other omnibus interfere in this way but the "Emperor" and one more—Bray's omnibus was obstructed in its free course by them—I do not recollect that I have seen Bray's act improperly to them, but I have seen the opposition strong against Bray.

COURT Q. Did Bray's ever act so as to oppose them? A. I never noticed that.

WILLIAM THOMPSON DICKENSON . I am a chemist and druggist, and live at No. 147, oxford-street. I know Mr. Bray's omnibuses—I have observed them for about two or three months—I have observed two other omnibuses, with the name of "J. Bolton" on them—Chapel-place is a place where they generally stop, and if Bray's omnibus has stopped there to take passengers, or any passenger attempted to get in, the others drove in such a manner as to prevent their getting in—I have observed that fre quently with those omnibuses—I cannot speak as to others—I have seen Mr. Bolton's more particularly.

COURT Q. Have you ever seen Bray's omnibuses interfering with those other omnibuses, and preventing people getting into them? A. No.

GEORGE HILHOUSE . I am a surgeon, and live at No. 14, High Holborn. I remember going by Mr. Bray'somnibus on the 18th of August—It took me up, and putu me down in Oxford-street—and on my return by it the "Emperor, Edmund Sylvester, 352, "would not allow me to get down at my own door—I suspect it was because they saw Mr. Bray take me from

my own door—they stopped to see me taken up, and I was stopped by the "Emperor" pulling up against my door, which would not allow me to get down at my own door, and I was obliged to get down in Kingsgate-street—I have seen opposition to Mr. Bray's omnibus at other times, one before and one behind it, so that I have been obliged to take another omnibus.

COURT . Q. Have you ever seen Bray's omnibus acting in this way to the others, and annoying them? A. Not in the least.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST . Q. Have you attended Mr. Robert Bray? A. I have.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE . Q. Hoe far had you to go from Kingsgate-street to your door? A. About ten yards.

JAMES JOSHUA AUSTIN . I am a silversmith and jeweller. I have no ticed Bray's ominbus going from Paddington to the Bank repeatedly—I have noticed other omnibuses near Mr. Bray's; in my opinion, they were racing against him—I have seen one behind him, and when Bray's omni bus stopped, the other endeavoured to drive against him, in order to get his passengers—I should suppose if any timind female wanted to get into Bray's omnibus, she might have been alarmed by it; but I never saw that—I have seen one omnibus close before him as well as behind—when Bray's stopped, the others would stop—I have seen that—their conduct was such as to obstruct him in his regular course from Paddington to the Bank—I never saw any improper conduct of Bray's to the others.

JOHN MORRIS . I live at No. 7, Chapel-place, Oxford-street, and am an accountant. I have seen Bray's omnibuses, and other omnibuses fol lowing them, and with them frequently—I cannot tell the names, but I think I have seen the "Emperor"—In general one went before Bray's, and the other behind—I have been them draw up when people were getting in very frequently—I have seen more than two omnibuses with Bray's oc casionally—they were acting in such a way as to obstruct Bray's—I thought it was a little rivalry.

JOHN BATTERBEE . I live at No. 133, Oxford-street, and am a shoe maker. I have observed the omnibus with the name "Aaron Bray" on it, gernerally accompanied by there others, one before, one behind, and one by the side of it—that was a very common occurrence, almost every day—generally when he stopped they put their poll against him, so as to obstruct people getting in.

COURT . Q. Did you see the parties conducting Bray's omnibus acting so? A. No.

MR. RATCLIFF . I am a carver, gilder, and picture dealer, and live in Holborn. I know Mr. Bray's omnibus, and have occasionally ridden in it—I have noticed the conduct of Mr. Bray's omnibus, and the conduct of other omnibuses with respect to him, so much so that I have been compelled to apply to the police—about two months ago I was at Maida Hill, and wished to get into Bray's omnibus, another drew up, and had I not have been as quick as possible, I think the pole would have come against my head—I did not take notice of that omnibus—It appeard to me to be done to prevent my getting into Bray's omnibus—when I have passed through Holborn, I have seen one or more omnibus accompanying Bray's; but I did not notice them, as I never expected it to go beyond self-protection about which I went to Bow-street—on the occasion I am now speaking of, the other omnibuses were coming from Maida to the City—I remember one with the name "Emperor" on it, but I have since seen there are one

or two other of the name—one of the others was No. 244, the other was 266—I believe one was Mr. Hill's, and the other was Mr. Bardell's.

Cross-examined by MR. JONES . Q. Where did you get the number? A. I took it in the first instance, and I went last night to Bow-street, to get the two numbers, as they were summoned there by me on the 11th of August—one was Hill's and the other Bardell's—I wish to say, that the driver of Mr. Hill's was most insolent—his language was most dreadful—Sir Frederick Roe said he would fine him, 5 l . the next time—the driver of Mr. Bardell's had more sense, and behaved with more propriety—I never saw any thing improper in the conduct of Mr. Bray's omnibus—I live at No. 213, Holborn, nearly faeing Day and Martin's, twenty-five or thirty-five doors from Mr. Bray's—he lives up a yard—I have known him some years, and when I rido in an omnibus, it is generally by him.

Cross-examined by MR. KNOWLES . Q. In connexion with what was it you mentioned the name of Bardell? A. The two omnibuses had blocked up the way of Bray's, to prevent my getting in, and the police summoned them—I went to prove the case—I cannot tell which of the Bardells it was—there was the name of Bardell on one of the omnibuses—they stood and blocked up the whole road—I dare say there were thirty or forty carriages which could not go on—I begged of the first man to go on, and he refused—Bardell's, I think, was the last.

Q. Then in point of fact, he could not have got forward? A. He could have given way to give space, but not quite suffcient for the others to go past—he could no get out, but still he might have accommodsted a little if he liked—he could not get back, there were twenty or thirty carriages behind him.

JOSEPH HUDSON . I am a tobacconist, and have lived in Oxford-street upwards of thirty years. I know Mr. Bray's omnibus—I have observed it interrupted by other omnibuses for the past two or three months—I have seen the "Emperor," No. 352, and the other, No. 177, with "Thomas Corbett" on it, one before and one behind Bray's, and they driven up against his steps to prevent the passengers going by him, and half a dozen others have done the same—there must have been a great deal of danger in peo ple getting in or out of his omnibus—I have seen Bray's turn, and the others have turned about also—I have complained to the ploice repeatedly—I have complained to Martin, the officer—the other omnibuses have driven so fast that unless I had stopped them, I could not complain to their con ductors about it—I have on one or two occasions stopped them, and said if they drove so fast I should take their numbers, and go to to the police office.

COURT . Q. Upon those former occasions, have you seen Bray turning round, following the others, and using the same course that they did to him? A. No.

Cross-examined by MR. PRENDERGAST . Q. Did you call on Mr. Bolton, and propose that they should pay 10 l . a-piece, and settle the matter? A. I never called on him—I wrote him a letter, he them called on me—I did not propose that they should pay 10 l . a-piece, and settle the matter—the letter I wrote was complaining of the insolence and abusive conduct of his drivers.

Q. But I am talking about what you said to him; upon your oath, did you not propose to him that a sum of money should be paid, and the busi ness should be settled? A. No; I did not proposem an arrangement—he proposed an arrangement; he said, he should not like to come to the bar of the Old Bailey—I said, "I think you are right, Sir, not to have it said after wards

that you had been at the bar of the Old Bailey"—he asked what I thought Mr. Bray expected—I said he was a perfect stranger to me—I had come forward to support Mr. Bray, together with the whole of my neigh bours, to put down this racing against people as they had done; and that Mr. Bray had told me he had lost, by being opposed by Mr. Bolton and others, between 300 l . and 400 l .—I stated to him first of all, that it was a most abominable thing, that the self-elected committee of Paddington pro prietors should say the whole of the King's highway belonged to them, and that no person should come there unless they paidd 200 l .—he said, "I should not have run an omnibus against him had not his man come to my yard, and insulted my people, and I put on the omnibus to run hid off the road—now do you want any thing more?"

Q. How many times has your conduct been questioned in courts of justice, for gross usury, extortion, and fraud? A. Now I mean to say, upon my oath, that sucj things may have been said and counsel will take liberty to say such things, and most untruly sometimes, but nothing of that kind ever occurred—I never was before a Magistrate on any charge, not even a watch-house charge—I have never been questioned in any case in courts of justice.

Q. Do you discount bills? A. No I—do not make loans to people, and then supply them with snuff-boxes—only in a way of business, like other tradesmen—I never was a money-lender in my life—my name is Hudson, of Oxford-street, a tobacconist—I take the liberty of saying that I am notorious for not being a money-lender.

JOHN COLE . I am a chemist and druggist, and live at No. 101, High Holborn. I know Bray's omnibuses—I have observed other omnibuses near them when they beem going along the road—I suppose a thousand times—the others were driving continually before and behind them, and trying to prevent passengers, alarming ladies, and driving so close behind it as to make it dangerous for females to get in—I have never seen Bray's do so to the other omnibuses.

RICHARD PRIESTLY . I live in High Holborn, and am a bookseller. I have seen Mr. Bray's omnibuses, and other omnibuses with them, one behind and one before, quite close—I have seen that frequently—I do not know the names of the other omnibus—one was the "Emperor. "

COURT . Q. Did it appear, from what you saw of the two omnibuses, one before and one behind, that there was fair competition or unfair? A. Unfair; I think that means were made use of to prevene Mr. Bray carrying on his business fairly.

ROBERT BLOOR . I am proprietor of an omnibus. I remember on the 27th of July, seeing the "Emperor" with blue ribons to the horses, by the toll-gate—there were several persons with it, one or two, I can recollect—I saw Mr. Bolton at the gate taking money, and the eldest Mr. Trevett was at the garden gate about five minutes before—I saw Hill—I do bot recollect seeing Cowderoy—there was an observation made by Gough, who was driving the "Albion," the oppostion bus that went against Mr. Brau's—he was driving young Trevett—he amde an observation loud enough for people to h ear, I should think—he said, "We shall be with you to morrow"—I made an appeal to the gentlemen with em and said, "So long as you continue with me I don's care for the committee"—I have hasd op postion against me, but not by Trevett.

Q. Who was it? Cowderoy's omnibus was driven against me one day,

about a month after—there was no omnibus put against me on the morrow, as Gough said.

Cross-examined by MR. PHILLIPS . Q. You say Boton was at the gate, taking money? A. Yes; I am told he is collector of the tolls there.

JOHN COLE . I am landlord of Mr. Corbett, in Lamb's-buildings, Bar bican—he pays 20 l . a year—he is not in arrears—I believe he is in the shoe line.

A verdict of acquittal was here taken for James Bardell and Joseph Bardell.

MESSRS. PRENDERGAST, PHILLIPS, CLARKSON, KNOWLES , and BODKIN addressed the Court and Jury in behalf of the defendants, and called the following witnesses.

JOHN TREVETT . I am son of the defendant, Robert Trevett. He has some omnibuses which run from Paddington to the Bank—I remember Mr. Bray starting two omnibuses—I do not remember the day of the month, but I saw them at the Wheatsheaf on Whit-Monday—John Lee was the driver of one of them, and I believe h is conductor was Jem Raines—the driver of the other was Henry Mann, better known by the name of Cuddy Mann, and James Trevett, who is a cousin of mine, was the conductor—he had once been in my father's employment some time ago—Lee had been in my father's service, but had left, and Mann had been employed to do odde work when other men were away, or ill—the first I saw of Brau's buses was at the Wheatsheaf, and when one of my father's buses started from the Wheatsheaf, one of Bray's started with it—I think Lee drove that—my father's bus started at its regular time—my father has has omnibuses on that road about five years, I should think—when Shillibeer started in Sep tember, he started the first omnibus about January—on the day Bray's omnibuses appeared, my father's omnibus went down to the Bank, I sup pose—Robert Willis drove it—I cannot recollect who was the conductor—I did not see Bray in the course of that day—I saw my father's omnibus, shout five o'clock that day, come down to the stable, in Market-street, Paddington, and Bray's omnibus followed my father's down to the stable, and passed by—that was out of the regular line of road—my father's omni bus stood outside the horses went into the stable, and staid there about forty minutes—It was tea-time.

Q. Did the conductor or driver of Bray's omnibus say any thing while they were following your father's to the stable? A. Yes; as they passed they said, "We will break the b----y cobler; we will melt his b----y wax"—that was either the driver or the conductor—I believe it wa Cuddy Mann—my father is a bot and shoemaker, and lives in Finasbury—I re member my father's omnibus starting again that eventing—while we had been waiting, Bray's buses were at the Fountain Abbey, the public-house at the corner—our buses always go roung that corner, and as soon as our buses turned that corner, I saw Bray's men get up in haste and follow them our—two buses went from the yard together, and both Bray's followed them—they started from the Wheatsheaf, at Paddington, which is about half a mile from the Fountain Abbey.

Q. Have you ever observed your omnibuses and Bray's on the line of road? Q. Yes; I think on Whit-Tuesday, the 9th of June, I saw Bray's bus and my father's in Regent-circus, Oxfort-street—that is the place they generally call at—the Magistrates will not let them stand there, so they trail gently bu; but they were thenstanding at the corner of Ox ford-street—I saw a gentleman passenger in the act of getting into my father's bus , and Lee, who was then conductor to Bray's bus , went to my

father's bus, and pulled the passenger away, and put him into Bray's bus —he put his hands round the gentleman, and pulled him right away—I was not near enough to hear any thing said—Lee and the conductor of my father's bus got fighting through it—the fight did not last above a mi nute—some one parted them—the omnibises then went off together—I believe ours was a little first—they were very nearly abreast—the "Al bion, "No. 177, was my father's bus —he has no partner in any way—I have seen Bray's and my father's racing together since the time I spoke of, but not to notice any particular circumstance.

Q. Do you know there is a Paddington committee? A. I do not—there is what is erronecously called a committee, a meeting of the proprie tors of that road—they meet on Thursday nights at the White Lion—I have been at the meeting—It is held in the first floor front room—any one may walk in—there has been no secrecy when I was present—there is very seldom any thing done there at all—sometimes some of the pre prietors would come and tell another that his men had been kincking up a disturbance on the road—It was always settled between the person who made the complaint, and the person whose servants were complained of—I have known of drivers being discharged by the proprietors on account of—their misconduct—I cannot say who it was—the subscription that was paid was half-a-crown a week for each member—It was to pay the time-keepers—there is no other subscription among the proprietors that I know of—the half-crown was not paid there in general—one of the conductors pays for his three omnibuses down Oxford-street—there are several time-keepers—one is deputed to receive the subscriptions, and pay the others—I never knew of any subscrition between my father and the other pro prietors, to support any opposition while Mr. Bray was running his omni buses—I have the sole management of my father's omnibus business, and had it at that time—If there had been any subscription made to oppose Bray, it must have come under my knowledge.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT BUMPUS . Q. This which is "er roneously called a committee" meets at the White Lion? A. Yes—I do not know that I have ever omitted going for the last four months—some times there are only two or three of the proprietors there—It is called the Paddington Committee—I do not know of any jurisdiction that it has—the proprietors who formerly fixed the times go to that meeting—they all go occasionally there—I never knew of any secretary—my father has had an omnibus, called the "Tally Ho," on that road for some time—that was put on against a man's omnibus of the name of Lewis, and run him down last autumn—I know the name of George Craig—I never knew he was a pro prietor—I know Shillibeer personally—I do not remember his being run against—not for six months, I do not—I remember an omnibius with the name of Newman on it; that was run against, and run off, and he sold it to Bolton, I believe—Bolton set up an opposition against him, I believe.

Q. Did not Bolton's always follow Newman's wherever it went? A. I have seen it before it, and behind, and on the same line of road—It was one of Bolton's buses —I do not remember the name of it, or who was the driver on conductor—Mrs. Turnbull was a proprictor up to the last nine months—I never remember seeing her name on a bus . nor her attending the commit tee—I did nto attend them rugularly till the last Christmas—I have bees there before—I do not remember seeing her there—I do not remember her having an omnibus run against her.

Q. I ask you whether the very same omnibus that ran against Newman was not put on against Mrs. Turnbull? A. Never, to my knowledge—I

never was present where Mrs. Turnbull was, nor when any thing was said about a demand of 50 l . upon her, or any other sum.

Q. What is the expense of running an omnibus from Paddington if you get no customers? A. About 14 l . a-week; it depends on the number of journeys it runs, and whether a man is fortunate in his cattle; that is for one bus, five journeys a-day—I do not know how many proprietors there are—I never reckoned them up—I know Thomas Evans and George Bingham.

Q. As far as I understand, your being at Regent-street was a mere ac cident? A. I was there for the purpose of watching—I think it was after dinner—I thought I woulde take a walk down the the road, to see in what manner Bray worked his bus against my father.

Q. You say that you believe the number of your father's omnibus was 177: just recollect, was not the No. 177 upon the "Albion" that was put against Bray on the 15th? A. I will not swear to that being the number on that day—theree is more than one bus of my father's on the road—when a new license is taken, there is not always a new number—Thomas Corbett is a boot-clicker—he is foreman to my father in his shop—I remember the time when it was thoought that Bray was off the road, when his horses went for sale—I do not know that the "Albion" had the horses arrayed in blue ribbons—I supped that night with the people at the White Lion—my fa ther was present—I did not see Bolton there, nor Cowderoy—he might have been there without my seeing him—there were a great number of persons—the room was full—they were the coachmen and the conductors of any om nibuses, I believe—I do not know who paid—I never saw my father pay any thing—I do not believe he did pay any thing—I do not think he could pay without my knowing it—I sat close to him—I did not pay any thing,

Q. Tell me somebody that was there beside your father—was Gough there? A. I think he was—I did not see Sullivan there—I do not know Smith—I did not see either of the Bardells, nor Carpenter, nor either of the Birds—I do not know that Johnson was there, nor Hill, nor Pearce—he might be there—Thomas Evans was there, to the best of my knowledge—the room was full of a number of people.

Q. Am I to understand that you do not recollect any person but Gough, your father, and Evans? A. I will not swear to any other person being there—I was there, I should think, an hour and a half—I had a glass of gin and water after supper—there was nobody in the chair that I know of, or at the head of the room; it was all confusion, sometimes one sat at my right hand, and sometimes another—my father sat next to me on my left hand, part of the time—I cannot tell who sat at my other hand any part of the time—I do not know who paid—I understood that Evans and Cowderou's omnibuses had had a quarrel, and had been racing together for a few days, and had settled their difference, and they had a supper over it—I did not see blue ribbons on the horses in the "Albion. "

Q. Did you not individually give a sum of money towards that supper in the morning? A. No—I did not see my fathe give any thing—he goes down in the City in the morning, and from time to time he goes with the bus —I cannot tell whether Cowderoy does—I have seen him on buses, driving—my father's first time in the morning, is about twenty minutes after nine o'clock, and he has three times—his next journey is about twelve o'clock, or a few minutesw after, and his next time about a quarter before three o'clock—the "Albion," which runs against Bray, came to my father's yard every night.

Q. Does he continue from that time up to this to have the same three times? A. He has three omnibuses running down Oxford-street—one does not run with the other two the whole day, two follow cach other every time—the first of all that he has starts before twenty minutes after Bine o'clock, about a quarter of an hour or twenty minntes before it—I do not know the precise time that the buses start, I trust that to the men—the second bus; is about twenty minntes after nine o'clock, and the third twenty—three minutes after—we have the same times now for two of them, but one was shifted about a fornight ago.

Q. What I want to know is this., whether you have continued these three first omnibuses at these times, up to within a fortnight? A. Yes; we have—my father has always run an omnibus at those times—It has not always run in his name—one has been running latterly with Corbett's name on it.

Q. Whenever Bray set out, at whatever time, nice, ten, or eleven o'clock, did not that omnibus with Corbett's name on it set out, whenever Bray's. out? A. Yes.

COURT . Q. And did it not confine itself to those times? A. At first it did—our "Albion" time changed after Bray's.

MR. SERGEANT BOMPAS . Q. Your omnibus always went with one of his? A. Bray's went with one or other of our omnibuses—both Bray's went with one of ours from Whit—Monday to about Wednesday, with the exception of one journey—after that there was only one of Brav's with ours—the first day his started with the second omnibus we had that morning.

Q. When you say that Bray ran with one of your omnibuses, when ever it went, was not that the one that had Corbett's name on it? A. No; Corbett's name was put on about a week after Whit—Monday—Bray's con tinued to run against one of my father's which had not Corbett's name on—I have seen it at different times of the day—one day at one time—some times at another—sometimes he stopped at the same time we did, and some time he went on, just as it suited his own fancy—he did that from the very beginning—those which I term the regular buses kept on at the regular time—the others stopped with him.

Q. Did you ever send your horses down to H olborn, to change the horses in that one that ran against Bray's? A. Yes, occasionally; only to that one, that was the "Albion, "No. 117, I believe, but we have two or three "Albions"—I do not know that that "Albion" ever stopped for Bray's omnibus, when it was in Bray's yard—I have not the slightest no tion that our omnibus ever stopped in Holbom or Southampton-street, while Bray's was in the yary—It was sent to Holborn, because Bray's men said they would not give them time to change, they would make that pair of horses work all day long, when Bray's bus was working against our regu lar one—If they saw the bus he but on to protect our regular once, they would turn down some of the back streets, and if we stopped he would pop out of some of the streets.

COURT . Q. What did they do? A. They turned down the streets to lose the bus we put on to protect our regular ones, and would wait, and watch till they saw our regular buses coming, and then go on in front of them, to pick up the passengers which they would have, and we had nothing to protect ourselves with, if this other bus had not kept with them.

Re-examined by MR. JONES . Q. How soon after Mr. Bray put on his omnibus did your father put on an extra one? A. My father did not, I put it on—It on—Bray's ran against our buses when they came down by our stables—I saw they were waiting there—I sent this extra bus out, and

gave the coachman directions, "if Bray's omnibus runs against ours, you run against his—If he don't interfere with us, you come home again, and don't interfere with him"—that was on the Monday.

Q. Supposing Bray had not opposed any of your omnibuses in the way you have stated, should you have put on an extra omnibus? A. No; if he had not run agiust our omnibuses, we should not have put the extra one on against his.

COURT . Q. Do you mean if he had not put it on at all, or run in the manner he did? A. If he had not run in the manner he did againat us—If he bad run against other proprietors, it was other people's business.

MR. JONES . Q. Before you put on that extra omnibus, had you or your father, to your knowledge, consulted with any other proprietors about putting it on? A. No, we had not—In fact, my father never gave me orders to put it on, I put it on my own account.

COURT . Q. Do you mean this "Albion, 177?" A. Yes; I took it off the New-road to do it—my father has three omnibuses on the New-road, and I took that off, to the stones—the New-road omni bus had been paying its way, and this was a losing concern, but I took it off to proteet the others—I took that one because there was no other omni bus in the yard fit to go to work.

MR. JONES . Q. Did you put on another in the New-road? A. Yes, most certainly.

COURT . Q. When did you start this? A. On the Monday—Bray had been three joureys against our regular omnibuses that day—I then sent this extra one out—he went down with our buses the fourth joumey—both of his continued for about three days to run at our regular hours—then one of Bray's left us—the other still continued at the regular hours—his buses sometimes stopped where ours did—I gave the men orders, if he did not go with ours, not to go with him; but he continued in our time for about a fortnight—some of the men told me that he atarted from one startiong-point in the road, and would go a little way, turn a street, and come out in front of another; and they asked me what they were to do—they told me Bray's men dared them to come with them—I said, "Well, if they dare you to go with them, go with them wherever they go. "

ROBERT WILLIS . I am a driver in Me. Trevett's employ. I drove the "Old Albion," No. 174—the first time it went was at twenty-one minutes past nine o'clock; the next was three minutes past twelve o'clock; and the next, twelve minutes before three o'clock—I remember White-Monday—I went off that morning, at my usual time, from the Wheatsheaf, at Pad dington—there was another omnibus of ours that went down the yard with me, or nearly so—Mr. Trvett's omnibus, the "Triumph," was a there—when I got to the Wheatsheaf, I saw, in two or three minutes, two omnibuses, with the name of "Aaron Bray" on the side—I had about nine minutes to stop—they came up, and saud, "Now for the old cobbler; we will give him a turn"—this was at the Wheatsheaf door—when I started at my time, one of Bray's omnibuses atarted with me; and where I atoppes, they stopped—I first stopped at the corner of the New-road, at the Crown—Bray was before me at that time—our omnibus always stops there—Bray stopped there till I started, and then he stopped too—I went next to the New Inn, and stopped there; and Bray stopped too—he was generally before me—when I stopped, or went on, he stopped or went on too—If passengers came to my omnibus, and I stopped, he would pull up

and wait to see whether I went on—we pulled up for a passenger if I was first, they got into mine, and if Mr. Bray's was first, they got into his—there was no opposition offered by Bray's men, not pulling people away—I stopped at Regent-street, which is the usual place for stopping, and Bray stopped there—our other omuibus, the "Triumph," followed me three minutes behind—I did not see it, but that is the time—I stopped opposite Day and Martin's—there is a batter's shop only ten or twelve doors from Bray's stables—we have stopped there ever since the road has been estab lished—Bray's still kept with us all the way to the Rank—It came in behind me—every omnibus is allowed three minutes there—he took a turn round Cornhill, and as I came from the corner of the Bank, he came from the corner of Cornhill at the same moment, and kept on with me in the same way, all the way up to Paddington—where I stopped, he stopped—John Lee was the driver—he had been in the service of Mr. Trevett—the conductor was Jem Raines, I believe—I had not known him in any other character, but I heard he had been a fighting man—he had been a con ductor before, I believe, but not employed by Mr. Trevett—I took my second journey at three minutes past twelve o'clock that day—Bray's, that went with me the first journey, went the second—he proceeded in the same way as he did on the first—we have regular customers that go by the omnibuses—we carry them one day, and perhaps not again for a week—we have not a regular body to ride down in the morning, and ride back again—I was followed all that journey just in the same way, by the same John Lee.

Q. Was there any expression besides having this turn-up with the old cobbler ? A. The first was, "We will give the old snob a turn"—when we came from our third journey, we went to Mr. Trevett's stable, which is very nearly a quarter of a mile out of the road, and they followed us to the stable, huzzaing, and saying they would give the old cobbler a turn as they passed by—they said they would melt his wax before they had done with him—that was said so that any person who was standing on the ground might hear it—It was ballooed out from the top of their omnibus—they were hallooing out, "We will melt the old cobbler's wax before we have done with him"—that was in Market-street, where our stables are—we went there to take the horses home—they had no reason to go, for their horses stand in Holborn—I went home to tea in Star-street, and when I came back, Aaron Bray's omnibus was waiting at the public-house, near the corner of our yard, till we went out—when I got on the omnibus, I drove away, and they followed me directly—I went to the Wheatsheaf, to go the same journey again, and they pursued the same course again—I am positive as to their going on monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday; but they might omit one journey on Tuesday or Wednesday—they conducted their omnibus so as not to leave ours—I conducted mine at the usual pace to keep the time to a minute, as I did before—some time after this, one was taken away, but they kept on with us till the following Monday—they only went one journey on the Sunday, unless it was very late—not at my time,

Cross-examined by MR. WHITEHEAD . Q. When did one go away? A. One was taken away on Thursday, the 11th, but Jhon Lee remained—he worked in with me at my times, and also worked in at other times—sometimes he would go a little out of times, but three times a day he went with me, but it all depended upon whether he got any thing—he went three times with us, but if he did not get any thing, he might shift away

into other times—he might hang back a little—the omnibuses all stop at the Crown, and all start from the Wheatsheaf, unless they are a little too late, they all stop at the New Inn—they do not stop at the corner of Regent-street, but just traid along there—on the first morning, Bray got first to the Crown, and to the New Inn—I will not be positive which got first to Regent-street—we passed each other—If one stopped to take up a passenger, the other passed by—I never drove in oppositiom—I drove the regular omnibus—I heard that Raines had been a conductor before—my conductor was Dodd—he has been in Trevett's employ—I never heard that he had been a prize-fighter—I have been dirver to Mr. Trevett two years last May—I have kept the time I now keep for nine months—I never drove in opposition, but one day, that was the "Albion"—I do not recollect the number of it—It was against Mr. Bray.

COURT . Q. When you drove the "Albion" that day, what conduct was pursued by them or you? A. Ipursued the course that he had done to me before, retaliating—I waited at the Crown to see whether Mr. Bray's omnibus came to oppose Mr. Trevett's—It did come, and I went with it, and followed it—It he started and I started—he went first—Thomas Lee, his driver, gave me a challenge, and said, if he was game to Woolwich, was I game to follow him—I said, "I am game to follow you wherever you like to go"—he did not go to Woolwhich, but he ran up and down the streets, and I followed him about, out of the regular track—there was no obstruction against me for three days—they never ran their pole against me, so that passengers could not get in—I never saw any thing of the sort.

JURY . Q. By whose orders did you do that? A. Mr. Jhon Trevett told me I was to drive that omnibus that day, and that was all.

AARON MARTIN . In June last, I drove the "Triumph" omnibus, be longing to Mr. Robert Trevett, from the Wheatsheaf to the Bank and back—I remember Mr. Bray's omnibuses starting on Whit-Monday—on that morning I saw them standing at the corner of New Church-street—we stand at the corner of Old Church-street, the Edgeware-road separates them—I pulled up at the corner of Old Church-street, and John Lee and Henry Maun, the drivers of Mr. Bray's buses, said, "We have come to melt the old cobbler's wax" —I started twenty-four minutes after nine o'clock, and Henry Mann started with me—we were in a line, he at the corner of New Church-street, and I at the corner of Old Church-street—when I stopped at the corner of Oxford-terrace, he stopped with me—when I stopped at the corner of Uxbridge-road, near the New Inn, (Where we stop,) he stopped exactly with me—my omnibus stood close to the curb, and he stopped right against me—when I stopped at the corner of Regent-street, he stopped with me—when Itook up a passenger, he passed me—when he took up one, I passed him—we went on to Day and Martin's—I pulled up on the near side of the road to the White Horse, No. 100, and he pulled up on the opposite side—he stopped near Bray's stables in coming up, he did not in going down—I went on to the Bank, and took my three minutes—he did not take any time, but went into Cornhill, and plied for passengers, and when I came off, he started and pulled against me down the Poultry—I went back as far as Day and Martin's—he there changed horses, and I lost him, and did mot have him any more—the second journey he went down with Mr. Cowderoy's bus.

JOHN MARRS . I have been in the service of Mr. Trevett, as coachman, above two years—before Whit-Monday I drove up and down the New-road

I afterwards was appointed to drive the "Albion" by Mr. John Trevett—I always understood he had the sole management of the business—I began to drive on Whit-Monday, on account of Mr. Bray's omnibus coming, and waiting at the public-house till Mr. Trevett's came out, and then going with them—I saw that myself, as the omnibuses which go the New-road, and those which come down Oxford-street and Holborn, go the same way down part of the Edgeware-road—I saw Mr. Bray's omnibus, on Whit-Monday, come down to Mr. Trevett's stables, and wait there, which is out of the regular line of road, in Praed-street—I heard them say, they meant ruining the old cobbler if they possibly could; that was the main ex pression, they talked about melting his wax , and other expressions—I began to drive on Whit-Monday—I observed Mr. Trevett's regular omnibuses on that day—when they started, Mr. Bray's started, and then I went as well—on the Tuesday I saw Mr. Bray opposite Day and Martin's—I heard him say, "I mean sticking to the old cobbler , old Trevett, because his times are good ones"—I drove the whole of that week—sometimes I was first, sometimes Bray was—when I pulled up for a passenger, his driver would put his pole against my door, and not allow a passenger to get in—that was done half-a-hundred times, and more than that—they carried on the opposition to equally the same length that I did—their pole was put so as to obstruct my passengers—It was mpossible for them to get in; and if a passenger hailed me, they would run their pole against me—If the pas sengers did not get out of the way, it would knock them down—I remem ber, at Regent-street, there was a gentleman about to get into my omnibus, and John Lee prevented him, and he got a black eye from the conductor of my bus —Lee was preventing him from getting into my bus , by words, and by force as well—the gentleman had hailed me—I pulled up, and he was going to get into my bus , and they drove the pole right against the door—I pulled onh one side, and Lee followed the passenger, and pre vented him getting into my omnibus by geting before him—he put out his arms, but did not lay hold of him.

MR. SERGEANT BUMPUS . Q. You drove along the New-road? A. Yes, till five o'clock on the Monday—I then had orders to go to the Wheat sheaf; and if Mr. Bray's omnibus went with Mrs. Trevett's, I was to go on; if not, I was to return—I ran the whole of that week, when they ran against Mr. Trevett's—I did not follow them wherever they went—I only made one journey that night—I do not know that there was a time to spare that night—I do not know that there were three minutes, and only two omnibuses to run—I was sent out with that bus to protect our other buses ; to go if they went, and to come back if they did not go with our buses our usual regular omnibuses went the next morning, and I was there in waiting—If Mr. Bray's went with Mr. Trevett's, I was to go with him—I was an extra omnibus that morning—Mr. Bray's started, I started, and of course I went at the time of one of our other omnibuses—our first "Albion" started first—Mr. Bray followed him—then I followed, and then the "triumph;" and there was another of Mr. Bray's, behind the "Triumph"—Mr. Bray's was between the two "Albions" when he started—that continued a short distance down the Edgeware-road—we continued within a few yards of each other; some times I was first, some times he was—willis drove the other "Albion"—we staid about the same length of time at Regent-street, and then went on abreast together—I cannot recollect who went first—my "Albion" was No. 177—I did not always drive at the same time that Bray's omnibus

did, all that first week, because, in some journeys, he did not go against Mr. Trerett's, and then I did not go with him—on the second day, Bray's omnibus went three journeys out of the five, at the same time that Mr. Trerett's did; and I did not go more than three journeys with him that day—I went with one of his omnibuses every day in that week—when I was driving on the New-road, I went from the Wheatsheaf; my first time was twelve minutes and a half past nine o'clock; the second, six minutes past twelve o'clock; and the third, about eight minutes before three o'clock—I went my third journey on that Monday—on the Tuesday I saw Robert Brayat Day and Martin's, about twenty-five minutes past one o'clock—I was driving the omnibus—he ws driving Aaron Bray's against me—I do not know his number—Willis was driving thr regular omnibus, the other "Albion"—I went to the Bank on Wednesday morning—Bray's omnibus took his time there—I do not know that he was summoned for it—I saw him take his time—he turned in; and the man that calls the time called his time, and he went.

HENRY MANN . I drove the omnibus that had "Aaron Bray" on the side of it—I drove it the first time it started out of Bray's yard—I had previously been occassionally employed by Mr. Trevett—there were two omnibuses started from Mr. Bray's yard on Whit-Monday—Mr. Bray was there when they started—he did not say how we were to drive on the first morning—we went up to Paddington—on the Tuesday morning Mr. Bray gave us directions to keep in the same time as we worked in the first day—(that was Trevett's time)—he did not mention any person's name—on the Thursday morning the conductor told me, while Mr. Bray on Tuesday was there, to stick to Bolton's time—I had told Mr. Bray on Tuesday that I had stock to Trevett's time all day long, on the Monday, and he told me to stict to him again, and he would have his horses ready to change—the om nibus that I drove ran with Mr. Trevett's on the Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. You have been telling my friend a good deal of the instructions Mr. Bray gave you respecting Trevett—do you remember on the Thursday after you commenced, driving out of the regular line of road? A. Yes, we went up to Bolton's table, we fetched one of his omnibuses out of the yard, and followed it—we went on in opposition to Trevett and Bolton about eight or nine days—after that I left Bray's service without notice—I remember after that I left him he called son horseback at the mews where I lived—I told him I had a summons to attend to—I had been summoned to Marlborough-street for one of my own men who drove a cab —Bray then addressed himself to my conductor, and he offered Bray a shil ling for the earnings of the omnibus, which was all he had got—Bray said, d—n the 1 s ., it was not money he looked after, but the shabby way in which he left him, and if he got into any trouble he would see him out of it—I was discharged—I was foned 40 s ., at High-street after I left Mr. Bray, for a cab of mine—I am quite sure it was by Mr. Bray's direction that I drove against Mr. Bolton—I did not notice who drove Mr. Bray's omnibus after I left.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT BUMPUS . Q. Have you driven for any of the defendants? A. No, ne'er a one in the box—I have driven one or two journeys along the line of ropad for Goldburn, but I have never driven for Bolton since I left Mr. Bray, to the best of my recollection—I have been but about four journeys since I left Mr. Bray—I might probably

have gone one journey for Mr. Bolton—I believe that was the next Sun day evening after I left Mr. Bray—I was here yesterday, waiting outside—I know the policeman Bates, No. 7—I saw him here yesterday—I am not held to bail in reapect of a man of the name of Goose—I am not under any bail—I have been before a Magistrate lately, on account of Mr. Goose; he swore his life against me, but the Magistrate would not believe him—I was not present when any body struck Bates yesterday—I never saw any body strike him—I was not present when bates struck any body—he pushed him out of the way—It was not because something was said about being a witness for the prosecution.

JOSEPH GAMBLE . My father keeps the Fountain Abbey, Market-street, and I manage the business—It is the house to which Trevett's omni bus drivers usually come. On Whit-Monday I was there, and two persons who did not usually come, came there with Mr. Bray's omnibus—I cannot say what they said they would do, but they had refreshment at our house—they asked for ten, and that not being ready, they called for apint of ale, and a screw of tobacco—the tea was got ready for them—I brought it; while that was done, Trevett's omnibus started—they left their tea behind, and started off.

---- DEDMAN . I live in Market-street, and am a piano-forte-maker, On Whit-Monday I went into the Fountain Abbey, a little before five o'clock—I saw Bray's omnibus stopping there—two of Bray's men called for tea—they called for ale, and while it was getting ready, I was sitting in the front parlout—the forms were out at the window—they saw Trevett's bus go, and they left their tea and went after it—I was there on the Wednesday—I saw Bray's omnibus in Market-street—It passed Mr. Trevett's stable—the men were huzzaing and said, "You are not game to follow us"—and "We will run the b—y cobbler down" or "off"—I have seen Brauy's omnibus occasionally, and observed its proceedings—when people were going into Trevett's omnibus, the conductor of Bray's omnibus has got down from Bray's and laid hold of the people that were going into Trevett's—I have seen that several times—I have seen nothing else done ij particular—as it regards one running before tha other, that has been a common thing—some times Bray's bus before the "Emperor," sometimes the "Emperor" be fore that.

Cross-examined by MR. WHITEHEAD . Q. When was it you saw the con ductor of Bray's bus pull a passenger from Trevett's bus ? A. I cannot say the day—It was in the Edgeware-road—It might be four or five days after the starting—It might be eight—It was between two and five o'clock in the afternoon when I saw this, as that is the only time that I have an opportu nity or witnessing their conduct, my employment being at my father's in Marylebone-street, and I go to my dinner for two hours—I do not know who was the driver or the conductor of Trevett's omnibus—I think the name "Albion" was on it—I cannot say whether the "Emperor" omnibus was there—I did not see any omnibus beside "Albion", and Mr. Bray's—Mr. Trevett's was first—Bray's conductor got down from the bus , and en deavoured to prevail on the people to get into his bus —he laid hold of them.

Q. Was it a man or a woman? A. I have seen him take both.

Q. But on this particular time? A. I did not say any particular time; as I stated before, it was five, or six, or eight days after they began the running.

Q. Was it a man or a woman upon that occasion? A. I saw him take both.

Q. Are you sober now? A. Yes, Sir—I cannot say any particular day that this took place—I told you that before, but it was at the time I am in the habit of being in the Edgeware-road.

Q. What time did you see them on the Wednesday? A. About five o'clock—one of them was then driving past Mr. Trevett's—there were se veral persons visiting at Mr. Trevett's; persons belonging to the yard—I think it was as near five o'clock as could be—that is the time they come in to have their tea—Trevett's bus was in, and Bray's drove round, and came past.

JAMES BATES . I am a City police-sergeant No 7. On Whit-Monday I was on duty in Cheapside, the Poultry, Lombard-street, Cornhill, and round the Bank—I do not recollect any particular dat that I observed Trevett's or Bray's omnibuses, but within a few days of Whit-Monday, see ing there were two new omnibuses, I took notice of them—they tried to take their time at the Bank—I receive orders at the Bank, that if there are any new ones, not to allow them to pull in at the Bank till they had permission, I believe from the Ward authorities.

Q. What did you observe Bray's omnibuses do? A. They tried to pull in—I remonstrated with them, and told them they must not do so till they had been before the Police Committee—I remonstrated with the driver the first day, and on the second day of his starting I believe Mr. Bray came down himself—I told him my instructions were not to suffer him to pull in, till he had been before the committee—he insisted upon pulling in, and the time keeper told him also that he could not—he in sisted upon doing it, and I believe the time-keeper summoned him on the following Saturday.

Q. What was the effect of Bray's omnibuses trying to pull in upon the other omnibuses? A. It caused a great deal of confusion—by direction of the Bank there are three allowed to stand on the stand at one time, and only two during the payment of dividends; consequently, if there are more than three coms on, we order the last one off—Bray's happened to be the last on several occasions, and we ordered him off.

COURT . Q. Supposing he had been the first, would he have been ordered off then? A. No, Sir; the first week he would have been ordered off, but after that he got permission.

MR. JONES . Q. On any occasion when any of Mr. Bray's omnibuses were there, did you hear any thing respecting Mr. Trevett's? A. I heard various conversations among the man—they said, "We intend to run with you", meaning the drivers of Mr. Trevett's—"We are going to melt the old cobbler's wax now"—"He shall not have it all his own way, and we will let him know it"—I have heard Bray's omnibus drivers say that to Trevett's—Colson, the time-keeper, was there at the time, and I believe Budd was there—the time-keeper summoned Bray's driver for obstruction—after the first week they were allowed to follow the omnibus out that they had followed in but sometimes they would not wait—the men would leave the omnibus and go away to get their refreshments—from my observation, they appeared to run against Trevett's omnibus, and they did that for some time after they had permission to take time—I once had occasion to lay hold of Bray's horses—I was coming from Threadneedle-street one Friday evening, and Mr. Bray was being remonstrated with—he would not come in behind—he insisted on cutting in, and I laid hold of his horses and backed them.

MR. PAYNE . Q. Did you see Bray's come with or behind any other omnibus besides Trevett's? A. Yes, with several of them that have been

down first in the morning—I have seen one of Bray's run against Bolton's—they all conducted themsoleves pretty much alike—I complained before the Police-committee that Bray's did not conduct themselves fairly.

Cross-examined by MR. BALL . Q. Do you remember being at the White Lion, on the evening of the 27th of July? A. I know the house, but I never was in it in my life—I backed Bray's horses once, his omnibes was half across the road—I think on that occasion the two ominbuses that were in, were Mr. Bird's—they stood one behind another, and Mr. Bray's wanted to come in between them—young Mr. Bray was driving—I did not see the "Albion" or the "Emperor" at that time, they were not in Bank-street, they might he in Pinees-street—this was about half-past six o'clock in the evening—It might be three weeks or a month after Bray came ont he road—when Bray's omnibuses came in, they were generally in company with the "Emperor" and the "Albion"—the "Emperor" was generally before Bray, and the "Albion" behind—the omnibuses of all the defendants came in that direction—I have seven six or seven of them come in that way—I never went to Mr. Bray's, passengers, and told them it was dangerous for them to go in—I said to young Mr. Bray, the day after the sale, "I thought you sold off yesterday, and had done with it," and he went and reported it to his father, who brought me up for defamation—the Magistrate dismissed it.

JOHN GYNN ( City police-constable No. 13.) I am stationed round the Bank. I remember when Bray's omnibuses first made their apperance—they appeared to me to be running direct against Trevett's—I saw Mr. Braw and his men frequently—I have heard the man say to Trevett's men that they would melt the old cobber's wax —they would say to them, "We will be with you, you b—s," and use very bad language; and somtimes they made use of the word snob—I do not know that they talked of any body else beside Trevett—this violent opposition went on, I should think, about a week—Bray's omnibuses did not take their time, and take their turn as the others, when they first started—they afterwards had time given them—they did not keep their time as other omnibuses did—they used to come in, and go round Cornbill, and ply for hire, if they could get passengers; if they did not, they wanted to come in and take time—that occasioned a disturb ance, because they would want to cut in betwixt the three omnibuses which were allowed to stand at the Bank—I have found it necessary to interface, by their coming in irregularly, wanting to cut in, and throw the others out, which almost endangered the people's lives, by thowing omnibuses and horses on the pavement—they have come in at times and taken their times regularly; at other times they have not—they have gone out in all kind of ways; at other times taking times—they have gone to the corner of Cornbill, and stood there—I have crossed over to tell them to go on—one Friday evening, about two months ago, Mr. Bray's omnibus had been playing round Cornbill; hethen came and wanted to go in between the first and second omnibuses which were standing there—I spoke to Mr. Bray, and said, "Why don't you wait till the first is gone, and then come in third?"—he theb said, "I will be d—d if I don't get them all turned away from the Bank, if it costs me five hundred pounds, and I will line the street with omnibuses. "

PHILIP PARISH ( City police-constable No. 45.) I remember Bray's omnibuses coming to the Bank about Whit-Monday—they principally came in Trevett's time—I did not see what their conduct was at the Bank, as my duty is in the Poultry and Mansion House-street—I remember a

one time, walking up the Poultry with old Mr. Bray, five or six weeks after his omnibuses came—he had spoken about an officer who had been so kind as to assist him in getting up a horse, and had said to him, "Mr. Bray, you are very nervous; get on one side;" and he said he should give him a sovereign, if he might—I said he might—he said he would ask leave, and I belive he did—the sovereign was given, and divided between myself and others—I said to him, "You must be very uncomfortable in driving in opposition in this way: you can't expect these men to give their bread away without trouble"—I told him I thought he would be much more confortable if he had purchased one of their times, as they had purechesed them before—he said, "We should have shown them better"(or something of that)"if Alexander had not deserted me"—(we had before had notice that there were six omni buses coming down)—he said he should have been very well if Alexander had not put him in the hole, as Alexander had promised to start with him, and then they should have made the Paddington masters look about them.

MR. PAYNE . Q. Have you seen him running in Mr. Bolton's time? A. yes. MR. PAYNE . Q. Have you observed him going in other masters' times? A. Yes.

JURY . Q. Have you observed him going in other masters' times? A. Yes, he has sent out an omnibuses with others—If one goes out, and has not got further then Queen-street, another will follow him—I have seen op position several times, and if the opposition that has received three mi nutes comes out, and only gets as far as Bucklersbury, the other that comes behind him goes before him—I have seen one omnibus with the name of "Corbett," following Mr. Bray's the others have gone in their regular turn.

THOMAS CORNEY ESQ . I am Deputy of Broad-street ward. The Bank is situated there—I can hardly say that it is left to me to settle the times of the omnibuses there, but I generally do—the officers of the ward seem to be under my direction—I wrote a circular letter to the omnibus pro pritores in 1833, in consequence of the great confusion at the Bank, and the Governor of the Bank having written to me that he should put the Bank Act in force; I saw him, and told him I would enter upon it, and make some arrangement, which I did—I was instructed by the police committee to make some arrangements, that times might be set by the proprietors, and kept by the time-keepers—I invited the proprietors to meet me, to make some arrangements which I prescribed; one was, that no longer should any cabs be allowed there, as we found a great many robberies took place, and there were thieves taking advantage and robbing the public—the officers were ordered to remove any persons of that description—a few of the par ties met me, but by no means half their number—Mr. Shillibeer was then in opposition with them, not subscribing properly to their funds—I could not get them to terms but by threatening to put the Bank Act in force—they said, if I could get the twenty-nine proprietors to agree to having fifty-nine omnibuses, they would be satisfied, if I pointed out an offi cer in whom the ward would have confidence—one was appointed, who was to pay no respect to any one, but to summon every person who did not keep his three minutes—that went on for some time, till Mr. Bray began to make a disturbance, and threatened that he would continue it—he said it to me, I belive—I summoned him before the police-com mittee—he said that he should not belong to their committee—he would run his omnibus and take time, and I had him summoned before the police-committee—he had not had time then, our officers being strictly

bound by the list they had, they could not give him a time, without putting some one out; and in trying to take time, he had caused the obstruction—I could not give him time then; he must have had the concurrence of the committee, as after the arrangement had been made, it was final—after this, Mr. Bray applied to me, and I told him I had ceased then to interfere, the Police-committee of Aldermen not being uniform in their decrees—a worthy Alderman assumed, that this was a monopoly, and therefore he would not sanction any list—I said, "As I formed this list by the wish of a former committee if this court, and you won't sanction it, I will have nothing more to do with it"—before this there had been tolerable order at the Bank—I had no complaints, and if they had not been tolerably well conducted I should have heard—there was good order kept generally, as long as that list was observed—I did not hear of any time being allotted to Mr. Bray, as I ceased after the first list—If he has been admitted, it is in the new list—I know Budd, the time-keeper.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. Is this a copy of the letter you sent to the pro prietors? A. Yes; it was addressed to all the proprietors—I do not know whether Mr. Bird attended the meeting or no—these are the printed regu lations—they were calculated, in my judgment, to benefit the public, and the proprietors also—these regulations were mine; whethere they have acted upon them all, I cannot say.

MR. BODKIN . Q. After the agreements were made, I think some per sons were summoned before the Police-committee? A. Yes; for obstruc tions—the regulations were never binding upon the Police-committee, but the persons were summoned for attempting to break the regulations which the Paddington proprietors had formed—they were convicted in 5 s . or 10 s . each, or imprisoned—the Magistrates of London have convicted persons for causing obstructions, which would not have been caused if the regu lations had been attended to.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT BUMPUS . Q. Did Bray call on you, and ask for a time? A. Yes; I cannot say when, I think it was within the last six or eight months.

A JUROR . Q. If I understand you rightly, no person can start an omnibus without entering into this arrangement, the times being filled up? A. I imagine they must make an arrangement to take some time, or else cause an obstruction.

WILLIAM BUDD . I am time-keeper of the omnibuses at the Bank, and was so last Whit-Monday. On that day I observed two of Bray's omni buses come up—they came in with Mr. Robert Trevett's—I believe it was between ten and eleven o'clock—I was desired to tell them that they were not to take time at the Bank, that was the order of Mr. Corney—I told them so—It was the order that no other omnibuses were to take time, but the 55 which I have on my list—they worked out—they did not come on the stand the first time—they went up Cornhill, and down by the Rank—when the time came for Trevett's to start, I saw Bray's go out with them—one of Bray's conductors said, he would have time, in spite of the cobbler —they seemed to be waiting to go with Mr. Trevett—they continued to come to the Bank, three or four times a day—Bary afterwards applied to the proper authorities, and got his time—he then took his time, following out the omnibuses that he followed in—that was the order of Mr. Theobalds, the marshal—I think that was about a fortnight after—It was after the 13th, but I do not know what day—I cannot call to my recollection after whose omnibus Bray took his time—sometimes he came and took

time, and sometimes he did not—he waited for passengers—that was after he got permission to take time—when he did not take time, he went up Cornhill, round Bank-street, playingmfor passengers, and sometimes he went and waited down Princes-street, before he came to take time—after Bray had got time, there were two omnibuses behind him, but the hind ones are not allowed to solicit passengers, while the first one is there—there were three omnibuses, including Bray's—It is not allowed in the City for the two to apply for passengers, whilst the first is on—that is the agree ment of the proprietors—they have no connexion with the City authorities—they have nothing to do with our regulations.

MR. PAYNE . Q. After Bray's omnibuses ceased to run in Trevett's time, who did they run against? A. They ran in Trevett's time for three or four days, and about three days after that they ran in Mr. Bolton's time, for three or four days.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. Was it found that these regulations were calcu lated to promote the convenience of the public? A. Not a doubt of it, Sir, we should do nothing without it—we should be all in conflusion.

COURT . Q. Did Mr. Bray communicate with you on the subject? A. No.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. Were you not a police-officer, and sworn in for the purpose of keeping these regulations in force? A. Yes; I was—I was sworn in before Sir Peter Laurie, Lord Mayor—I have the date of the month here—we have had oppositions from Mr. Shillibeer and Newman, and then Mr. Bray came—I have only been there two years—one of Bray's omnibuses ran against Bolton—he commenced by running against Trevett, and then against Bolton, and then against Richard Bird and Johnson—I never saw Mr. Bray till that day—I receive 25 s . a week by the hands of Nathaniel Colaon—he is the relieving time-keeper—he is a peace officer—I have observed the omnibuses belonging to the two Bird's, Cow deroy, and Johnson—I have seen Bray's omnibuses drive very steadily from the bank—I am stationed at the Bank—three minutes is the regula tion time—they do not stop a longer period.

COURT . Q. Suppose a driver came and wanted to take refresh ment, might he not do that before he comes on the stand? A. Yes.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. Was not three minutes the time? A. Yes; I have summoned only our own omnibuses, and they were fined 10 s ., because they would not go when I have told them.

Q. Mr. Bray ran his omnibuses without regard to time, just as he pleased? A. Yes; there was no regular time—he came when he thought proper—he has run against them all nearly.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT BUMPUS . Q. You are paid by the proprietors, were you named originally by the proprietors? A. I know nothing of the proprietors—I was engaged by Mr. Corney, and paid since by the proprietors, by the hand of Mr. Colson—I am the regular time-keeper at the Bank—Mr. Colson relieves me—when I am not there, he is—when Bray came, on the very first time, on the Monday morning, he tried to take his time at the Bank—he said he should have time—he went up Cornhill—he did not come back in Cowderoy's time that day—I cannot recollect whethere he did the next day—he came once or twice in Bird's time; I think, not so soon as that week; it was about nine days after—he might have come on in their time that week, while I was relieved, for two hours—I remember the "Emperor" and the "Albion" being put on—they came and took time—I have seen the bus with "Sylvester" on it

come about the third day—they name on, and timed themselves off, and tock no account of it—sometime they came on as it suited their purpose; and sometimes they did not—I took no account of it, till I was ordered by Mr. Theobalds—they then took their time—that was Mr. Bray's omnibas—we have a variety of "Emperors"—that was put on againts Bray, with "Sylvester" on it, has come on once I belivee, and taken time, but not more to my knowledge—I believe the "Albion" took time once—they came once, to my knowledge, to the Bank, without taking time—they used to go out with Aaron Bray on other occasions, and I took no account of them, when they worked out odd; that has nothing to do with me.

MR. JONES . Q. You have been asked whether on the first or second or third day, you did not observe Bray's omnibus going in cowderiy's time; did he appear to you to be going more against Travett's time than any other? A. The first two or three days he did—at the time that Bray came on, there were fifty-five omnibuses.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. You have been asked whether you did not observe one omnibus come out, and wait in Princes-street, and of the ownern till Bray came there to run against Trevett, in the first instance? A. Cer tainly not.

COURT . Q. Was there an omnibus called the "Tally-Ho?" A. That was before the 10th of November—there has been no opposition since, but by Mr. Blower—his is an odd bus —he takes his time regularly at the Bank, following out the buses that he follows in, and that is the regulation in the City, or else we should all be in confusion—I can' tell when Blower had his time—my fellow time-keeper can tell that—I mean the same Robert Belower, who has been called—he does not take regular time—he goes when it suits him.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. That is, when he comes in, you order him to go at his time? A. He does not always come in, and take time—he goes up Bank street, and takes passengers—If a person comes in and takes time I can only insist that he should set off at his regular time—If a man comes in to oppose the regular omnibuses, and remains at the Bank for the time specified he must go—he is liable to be punished under the Bank Act—If he goes when I direct him, he must run against one of the regular omnibuses, which causes so much confusion and obstruction, even on the paverment.

Q. If an opposition omnibus, not coming in and taking the regular times, thinks fit to come for instance at twelve o'clock, must he not beces sarily oppose himself to one of the omnibuses running at that hour? A. Yes; and by that means he creates confusion.

COURT . Q. The times are regulated by the proprietors? A. Yes; there are twenty-two to fill these times—If two more came on it would not only create oppostion, but confusion—If the time was made two minutesit would be no use it would not pay them—we have had very great complaints of so many omnibuses being in the City—If the other omnibuses were as well regulated as ours are, there would not be so much confusion.

JAMES THOMPSON . I am employed by the inspector of stage coaches, at Somerset House.

I take my stand between St. Paul's and Cornhill, at eight o'clock in the morining—my business is to observe the stage coaches that pass, and omnibuses likewise, to cheek the Somerset House returns—I stop till twelve o'clock at night—I have frequently observed Bray's omnibuses for the last three months—I have seen Bray's, Corbett's, and Silvester's coming one against the other—Bray's generally after the other—young Bray has driven his omnibus up, and by placing the pole against the door, prevented passeners getting in—that was a common thing—on one occasion, I observed Raines, one of the conductors, when young Bray derove up get, down when a lady was on the pavement, come and take a child out of her arms, and put it in thje omnibus while the lady was calling on the paverment—when persons have been calling they have been pulled about by different conductors, by Trecett and others, and Bray—they taken hold of people and said, "This is my bus, I am first"—when the people have been going to get into the "Em peror", that being generally first, the passagers would be pulled about by Bray's conductors: and the same conduct was pursued towards the "Albion" by each of Bray's omnibuses—both of the conductors were pugilists, Raines and Mann—sometimes Mann used to drive, and some times conduct—I know nothing of him myself.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT BOMPAS . Q. Do you know that Rsines has been a pugilist? A. It has been advartised—I do not know any other conductors pugilists—Murphy has been a pugilist, I have heard—I have heard of Savage—I do not know him—I know the driver of the "Emperor"—I have not been on the box of the "Emperor" when it has been going out of its way after Bray's—I have been on the box twice—I have not followed Bray's omnibus out of the road—I have gone all the way up to Paddington on the box of the "Emperor"—I have gone to Madia-hill upon that very omnibus, when it went out of its regular road to a public-house where they dine—I did not see Bray go there—I saw him before me part of the way—he was there—he dined there—young Bray did—It is about six pr seven weeks sinve I saw the lady with the child—I do not know the name of the public-house—the omnibuses was in the yard—the horses were in the stable—It was near Bray's stable—the "Emperor" did not wait till Bray's went—the "Emperor" started first—I did not see Bray's going just before us.

COURT . Q. What took you there? A. I had been to Mr. Burn, a tailor, at Paddington—I went to Maida-hill for a ride.

MR. JONES . Q. How far was your tailor's from the house where you dined? A. Not a quarter of a mile—they went down I do not know how many back streets—I came back by the same omnibus—I am authourised under the commissioners of the Stamps, by Mr. Lewis Levy—I make my return to him—they go to Somereset-house—my appointment is to inspect the numbers of stage-coaches and omnibuses that pass through cheapside between eight in the morning and twelve at nignt—I am appointed by Mr. Lewis Levy, who is authorizeds by the commissioners of stamps to appoint who he thinks proper.

MR. PAYNE . Q. How long was it after Bray's omnibus ran, that you went to Maida-hill? A. Eight or nine weeks.

JOHN MILLER . I am time-keeper at the wheatsheaf, Edgeware-road, and was so last Whit-Monday. I recollect Bray's omnibus coming out—I cannot say the day—I did not seee Trevatt's omnibus the same day Bray came out—I have repeatedly seen them together—they were trying, of course all to get passengers—first one and them another, and each of them probably in their turns obstrueting the way—I have seen Bray drive his pole against the others, so as to prevent passengers from getting in—he

has waited a quarter of an hour, backing his omnibus against the pavement—I have seen Bray's prevent passengers getting into the others, by pulling close to the omnibus door—I cannot charge my memory whether I have heard Bray's men make use of any particular expressions.

MR. PAYNE . Q. Do you recollect Bray's first starting? A. I re collect their first starting—I have not seen them coming across Paddington Green—I have seen them coming from Bolton's yard, in Church-street—I will not be certain whether I saw any of Bray's drive close to the door of Bolton's omnibus—I do not think I have seen any thing of this—I have seen Bray obstructing any omnibuses that were coming on—he has omnibuses—the pole might probably be over the pavement, which would obstruct passenger from getting in.

NATHANIEL COLSON . I am time-keeper at the New Inn, Edgeware-road. I remember Bray's omnibuses coming out last Whit-Monday—they passed the New Inn to go towards Paddington—I Observed them back—the regular omnibus was standing at the New Inn, that was one of Mr. Trevett's—Bray pulled up ten or twenty yards opposite—not quite so for ward—when Trevett started, Bray started directly and went with him—he appeared to be running to get the roas against Trevett's bus, if possible; they would get the ground where Trevett usually stood—I have seen Bray's people pulling the people in, trying to get there into the bus , from Trevett's or any buses that might be there.

JACOB MILLER ( police-sergeant E 3.) I have been on duty in Oxford-street and Holborn for the last three months—I have observed Bray's omnibus going along—three were running together, Bolton's, Bray's, and I believe Trevett's but I am not certain—I mean the "Albion" and "Em peror"—I have seen persons hail the "Albion" and I have seen Bray's bus draw up to the door of the "Albion, "—I should think that prevented pas sengers getting in—I have seen Bray's men soliciting passengers from the "Emperor"—there never was a nuisance before Mr. Bray came up—I have threatened to take some of them into custody—I have been threatened to have my head punched by Bray's conductors.

Cross-examined by MR. BOMPAS . Q. Was that when the "Albion" was before and the "Emperor" behind? A. Yes; they were all stopped toge ther—It was Bray's men I was going to take up.

EDWARD TYRRELL . I am a policeman. I have been on duty in Oxford-street and Holborn for the last three years—I have observed Bray's omnibus going along—I have observed Trevett's, but I cannot speak with certainty about them—I have noticed Bray's going along, one before and one behind the other omnibuses—on one occasion I noticed the driver Mann, run against the other omnibus—there seemed to be oppo sition, one as bad as the other—on two occasions I have summoned Bray's omnibus for misconduct, such as obstructing—he was once fined 40 s .—the other time he had to pay costs—I have observed Bray's men abuse the passengers of the others, using blackguard language to the passengers or the coachman; that was Mann—the abuse was mutual, equal on both sides.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT BOMPAS . Q. At the time you had Bray up were there not four other omnibuses, and did not you have them all up? A. There were six. I only had Bray up, his bus had the name large on it—the other names were small—I did not observe the names on them—I told Mr. Bray if he employed such men to drive, the lives of people were in

danger at all times, because they were improper persons—there might have been some opposition before, but it did not come under my observa tion—we only had Mr. Bray himself up the second time—he was ordered off by one of our men, and he would not leave.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. You have, under the Police Act, authority to order these men off? A. Certainly; it was for abuse and refusing to go off—It was waiting for one of the others to come up to run agianst it—once there were six together; and when he was summoned on the other occasion he was on a different road, where he had no business to be—the objection was made that he was not plying for hire, but for opposition—before this opposition came on the omnibuses ran perfectly regular—there have been running from Paddington to the Bank as many omnibuses as could be ocnsistent with public convenience and safety.

THOMAS TRINGHAM ( police-constable T 137.) I was on duty at the Wheatsheaf last Whit Monday, and saw Bray's omnibus there, and Tre vett's—I have seen Bray, when there have been two standing there accord ing to the regulations, pull in both behind and before the others; and have seen them very frequently crossing each other in going down the Edgeware-road, preventing passengers going in—I have seen them draw the pole of their buses across the other regular bus , and prevent passengers going in on several occasions—I have seen Bray's men soliciting passengers from other omnibuses—I have had occasion to remonstrate with them at the Wheatsheaf—I have told them I must summon them—I have summoned them for furious driving.

MR. PAYNE . Q. Have you seen Bray's omnibus do any thing to Bol ton's bus ? A. Yes; drive the pole right across the door, and prevent pas sengers going in.

Cross-examined by MR. WHITEHEAD . Q. What are your instructions? A. To let only two wait there at a time, and those to start every three minutes—I have seen Bray's omnibus come before and behind them—I have seen them stand on the opposite side of the street, at the corner of Cross-street, but very seldom—I have seen the other omnibuses cross Bray's, but I have not seen the others drive up their poles to prevent pas sengers getting into Bray's—the others were the "Emperor" and "Albion," and sometimes other buses —I summoned Bray once for furious driving, but Bolton was not summoned at that time—Bray was driving furiously down Edgeware-road—the "Albion" was driving against him at that time, and the "Nelson," whcih belongs to Mr. Hill—the other was Bar dell's—I summoned those three, and they were all fined 40 s . each.

JOHN FELTHAM . I am a polic-inspector. I am stationed at Paddington—the Edgeware-road comes under my notice—my attention has been directed to the Wheatsheaf—I remember Bray's first starting—I think it was about Whitsuntide, all was then quiet—as soon as Mr. Bray's buses began to run, there was a great opposition—I should say he opposed the whole of them—I cannot say whose time he ran in—I am acquainted with their times—there was the "Emperor" and "Albion," two buses —they went with him or he with them; that caused confusion in the road—I have repeat edly observed Bray's omnibuses drive close up to either of the others—I have seen them come out from Portman-market, perhaps up Church-street, down to the Wheatsheaf—and Bray ran before them or behind them, so as to obstruct people from getting in—I have seen the same at the New Inn, and the half distance, the "Crown"—I have never paid particular attention to

what they said—they have been summoned for furious driving, and wilful misbehaviour in the Edgeware-road.

Cross-examined by MR. BALL . Q. The "Emperor" and "Albion" were with him? A. Yes; they were summoned at the same time, on the 25th of June, and fined.

RICHARD NATHANIEL COLSON . I have had some conversation with Aaron Bray respecting his running his omnibus—he said that unless he could receive 100 l . from the proprietors, he would indict them all for a con spiracy, and ruin them—I remember two of Trevett's men being in custody—Bray said he had been as good as his word—It was not the men he wished to hurt, but their masters, as he could get nothing out of the men.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT BOMPAS . Q. You are one of the time-keep ers? A. Yes; I am at all the parts in the course of the day—I pay the other time keepers—I go from one place to another through the day—I receive the money to pay, from the conductors of the respective omnibuses—I know Mr. New ell—I have not rendered accounts to him latterly—I did some time since—I think the last was six or seven months since—It was the account of what money I received, and what I paid at the time-keepers—I did not account with him as the secretary—I did not know he was secretary—I accounted to him for all the money I received from the conductors, and for all I paid—I never received money from him to make up any deficiency—I have paid trifling sums to him.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. Were you subpœnaed as a witness by the prosecu tor? A. Yes; I was—I was not called.

MR. SERGEANT BOMPAS . Q. I suppose you are subpœnaed on the other side too? A. I am subpœnaed by the attorney for some of the defendants—I have paid occasional surpluses to Mr. Newell, and I have done so to Mr. Bol ton since, from the time I ceased to account with Newell—I received two shillings and sixpence from the conductors for each omnibus—that is supposing they all pay regularly on Saturday evening—sometimes they do not pay regularly—then it is the middle of the next week before I re ceive their money—I received half-a-crown from each—It amounts to about 6 l . 15 s . a week, and if this has not been all paid to the time-keep ers, I pay the overplus to Mr. Bolton—I pay them 6 l . 10 s . a week—I re collect Mr. Bray's omnibus coming on—Johnson has put on an additional omnibus since then, and so has Pearce—I do not recollect that Newell has—Mrs. Watson has—Bolton has put on two omnibuses since, and Trevett, and Cowderoy, and Pearce—the first remark that Bray made, in reference to his omnibuses, was very soon after they started, in Holborn, I think within a week, it was near his own premises, where his omnibuses were in the habit of stopping to change horses—I think there were several people there—there was generally a crowd round his omnibus—the second conversation was on the morning that two of the defendants were taken into custody on this indictment—It was on a Wednesday, the 22nd of June or July—I have a memorandum of the date—Mr. Bray came up to me when the officer signified to the driver and conductor of the omnibus that he wished to take them into custody, that they were his prisoners—he said, "I am very sorry for you, young men; I have no enmity against you, it is not the men, it is the masters I want, I can make nothing of them; the law must take its course;" he concluded by saying," If they will give me 100 l . I will stop all these proceedings, and take away my omnibus "—that is all I can recollect—there were not many days between the first and last

conversations—I cannot say to a day or two—It was not many days—the first conversation was in the street, where his omnibus was stopping, near his own yard in Holborn—the last conversation was when the men were taken—the first conversation was in Holborn also, at the same place—I never saw Bray any where but close to his own premises—his yard is within a hundred yards of the starting place—Mr. Bray was in the habit of going to the place where the omnibus starts from, and he was there—I do not recollect who else was there—there were always people round his omni bus—the "Emperor" and "Albion" were not always before and behind him when they stopped there—I do not recollect whether they were there at the time this conversation took place—there must have been passers-by within ten yards of us—our own omnibuses were there, and the drivers and conductors—I cannot tell what drivers or conductors they were—It was not said loud enough to be heard—It was addressed to me—I should say, it was not loud enough to be heard by people a few yards distant—he was standing by my side—he was waiting there before the defendants came down—there were several people there on this occassion, but not in hearing—he began the first conversation in the usual way, with respect to his omnibuses running—he said he would have his time, and his omnibus should run, in spite of all the opposition of the other omnibuses running against him; and if the proprietors chose to give him 100 l ., he would take his omnibus off altogether—that is all he said that I can recollect—this took place at the first conversation, but he had said something to me previous to this.

MR. PAYNE . Q. Did he, in a conversation after the indictment had been found, say he had been as good as his word? A. Yes—I understood that to refer to what he said in the previous conversation—In the first con versation he said he would indict them all for a conspiracy, and ruin them all, unless he received 100 l .

MR. KNOWLES . Q. You have stated that Mr. Pearce has put an omni bus on the road since; does that go at its regular time? A. Yes.

JURY . Q. How many have you now? A. Those that run regularly, and work at three minutes, amount to fifty-five.

MR. KNOWLES . Q. How many had Pearce on the road before Bray? A. Two following each other, and one working at another period—the new one fell into the time of the two—the three did not go exactly in six mi nutes—the two that followed him and the other worked in twelve minutes—the five worked in twelve minutes—the time before allotted to four—they went at regular times—Mr. Bray did not go at regular times—the new one could not have been in opposition to Bray.

COURT . Q. You have stated three minutes to each one? A. Yes—Pearce and the two before him had twelve minutes for the four; and when he came with the new one, there were five—then, instead of their staying three minutes, they staid two minutes and a fraction—Bray never applied to have any time, only at the Bank—young Bray never asked me to call times for him.

JOHN LEE . I was a driver in the employ of Aaron Bray. I started with one of his omnibuses on Whit-Monday—he told us to do as we thought proper—we started from Holborn to Paddington, to the Wheat sheaf—we then turned round and went to the City with Trevett's omni buses, because it was a good time—we picked up five or six passengers, which Trevett's buses would have had if we had not—we started first—Trevett's yard is in Praed-street—we followed his omnibuses there—his

omnibuses went into the yard, and then we stopped at the public-house opposite till they came out again—that is out of the line of road from Pad dington to the Bank—Mr. Bray has seen us on the line of road, when we were running against Trevett—for some time we ran against Trevett and Bolton—we ran against Trevett six or seven days, and, off and on, against Bolton—Bird's omnibus was on the road—Mr. Bray directed me to run against Bird and Johnson and to leave them till furthur orders, and we continued to do so six or seven days, and I was then taken ill.

MR. PRENDERGAST . Q. Did you receive directions from Mr. Bray to run against Trevett? A. No.

Cross-examined by MR. WHITEHEAD . Q. Then your master, the first day, told you he left it to you to drive against who you liked? A. Yes, to do as we thought proper—I never received instructions to drive against Trevett; but I did to run tin Bird and Johnson's time—that was about a fortnight afterwards—the "Albion" and "Emperor" were on the road at that time, I believe—I molested them at times before they started one be fore and one behind—I endeavoured to get all the passengers I could against them—I have not been driving for Johnson since—I drove for one of his men—I have been driving for Turnbull since.

MR. CLARKSON . A. How long have you been driving for Johnson's men? A. Two or three journeys.

MR. JONES . Q. You say the first day you ran against Trevett? A. Yes; I do not recollect that I told Mr. Bray of it—I do not recollect that he asked me against whom I ran.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. What means did you take to molest the other om nibuses, beside picking up passengers? A. Sometimes I gallopped by them, trotted by them as they stopped to pick up passengers; and when I stop ped they came past me—when they have stopped for passengers sometimes I have pulled the pole against the door, and would not let the passengers get in.

JURY . Q. Had you instructions from Mr. Bray to do so? A. No.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Had you instructions from him to do exactly as you liked? A. Yes.

COURT . Q. When was it you began to pull the pole against their omni bus first? A. In two or three days after they began running—I did that to do the best I could for my employer—I pulled the pole first against them—I did so because I thought I was doing the best I could to get pas sengers.

WILLIAM BIRBECK . I am a time-keeper in Bartholomew-lane. I have seen Mr. Bray's pmnibus twice, and have seen Lee driving it—on the 20th of June I was going through the Poultry—I observed two omnibuses going together—I saw a lady wishing to get into the first—the one behind drove the pole agains the door, so as to prevent the lady getting in—I cannot tell who drove the one behind, but the name of Aaron Bray was on it—the omnibus drove on about three yards—the pole was again driven against the door, and she went away—there is a house in Bargholomew-lane where Trevett's men stop to get drink—I saw one omnibus with the name of "Corbett" on it, and one with "Aaron Bray" on it, stop there when he stopped, and went on when he went on.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT BOMPAS . Q. Were you not one day ordered out by the officers? A. No; I was subpœnaed the day before yes terday—I was here the first day, and then I was subpœnaed—Mr. Goodge acted as time-keeper in the New-road in my absence—I attend there from nine in the morning till nine at night—Corbett's was the "Albion"—I

did not see the "Emperor"—the "Albion" Went first each time, and Bray's after it.

HENRY EDMONDS . I am an oil and colourman, and live in the Edge ware road, and Drury-lane. I remember riding outside the omnibus called the "Emperor," on the Monday after Whit-Monday—It was driven by a man named Sylvester—I got up at Paddington—I observed an omnibus of Aaron Bray's, with its pole close to the door—that was at the end of Farringdon-street—a man of the name of Cuddy Mann was driving—he drove against the hroses, and knocked them down, I walked on some time, and then they got up—I was then frightened at being outside, and went inside—the manner in which the omnibus of Aaron Bray had acted, frightened me—the pole was so close, that the passengers could not get in, and they would not go in either of the buses.

Cross-examined by MR. BALL . Q. Are you a proprietor? A. No; I have got a sum of money lent to two omnibuses in the New-road, called the "Rose," but I am not a proprietor—I have no share in them—one formerly belonged to my father—one belongs to my brother, and the other to Meredith—my name is on it, but it is obliterated, and has never appeared—It was covered before it came out of the painter's loft—I have only an interest in the two "Roses," and one without the name at all, which belongs to Meredith—I do not know whether Meredith is connected with the defendants on the New-road—I am bail for Richard Carpenter, one of the defendants, not for any of the others—I am in the habit of riding from Paddington to my other shop, two or three times a-day—this was the second week that the omnibus started, called "Aaron Bray"—I cannot tell whether the "Albion" was there—I did not see it, but I have seen the omnibus of Braw go to fetch the "Albion" out of the stable—there were several of Mr. Bolton's there at the time I was riding.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Which omnibus did you see go to fetch the "Al bion?" A. Two of Aaron's buses , one round at the end, the other square.

Q. How came you to lend money on these omnibuses? A. There was a widow of the same name as myself in difficulty, her husband died—I lend a little money, till it came to 300 l .—I was compelled to take these omnibuses, and a man of the name of Lyons, whom Mr. Norton knows very well, contrived to do the widow out of one of them—I have always understood that Lyons and Nortons were related, and I was afraid to tackle them.

COURT . Q. When did they go to fetch the other omnibus? A. The second Monday after they started.

JOHN BARDELL . I am a veterinary surgeon. I am brother of the two defendants who have been acquitted—I know Aaron Bray—I went to him to inquire why he had put my brothers in the indictment—he told me my brothers must be in indictment, but he should offer no evidence against them, as they were always more friendly to him; but they must be in the indictment, as his attor ney had told him so—In consequence of that conversaion, I made an appointment with him to meet him at Mr. Norton's chambers, and I did meet him there on the Sunday—I saw Mr. Norton—I asked Mr. Norton in Mr. Bray's presence, why he advised my two brothers to be put in the indictment—Mr. Norton said, "Bardell, it is hardly fair that you should be here, but I will tell you—Mr. Bray has told me, that he has no evidence to offer against your brothers, but Mr. Bray com missioned your brother to ask the proprietors of the Paddington committee for 100 l . to go off the road;" and Norton said, "If we do not include your

brothers in the indictment, the Paddington proprietors will subpœna them against us, and that would tell very materially against them"—I am posi tive Mr. Norton said that, and in Aaron Bray's presence; and he said, if the proprietors did not give Mr. Bray 100 l . or take his stock at a valua tion, and give him 50 l ., that he would suffer to have his arms and legs cut off, if he would not ruin them—I was to tell my brothers, and they would know what they had to depend upon—Mr. Norton said, the people they intended chiefly to offer evidence against, was Mr. Bolton, and Trevett, and they would go in his times—I walked out of the office, and Mr. Bray walked with me—he said "I told you I would be as good as my word, I have met you at Mr. Norton's, and he has told you the reason of your brothers being in the indictment, and unless they give me the 100 l ., I shall go on. "

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT BOMPAS . Q. You were bail for your brothers? A. Yes; the only reason why I went to Norton's to ask why my brothers were in the indictment was because I had not put in bail at that time—It was last Sunday monthly, I think—I bailed my brothers on the Monday, and this conversation took place on the Sunday—I have given all that took place as near as I can recollect—I did not do to him about the bail—I had no occasion to say a word about it—my bail had not been re fused before this Sunday—on the Saturday before I went to Maryle bone office Smith my father, with a view, if my brothers wanted bail, to bail them—when I got there, Mr. Norton, and my brothers were in con versation—he said to my brothers, "We will put the thing off till Monday," and my brother said to me, "John, I shall not want bail to day, will you bail me on Monday?" and I told him I would—I never want into the office—I was told in the street by my brothers, that it would not be wanted till Monday, and I went on Monday, and it was taken directly—o Sunday, Norton said, "We are willing to take yours and your father's bail on Monday, but it will come to nothing about them"—he said "Your brothers must be in the indictment, and they must bail it, as the rest have done"—they did not mention any names—my father and mine were the names tendered on Saturday, and we were the bail on Monday—I went there in my chaise—I drove young Bray there, and met his father in his chaise there—I waited till he came—old Bray and I went into Mr. Norton's office, and young bray went in the chaise—he came into the office once while we were there—I was there perhaps altogether about an hour and a half, waiting about—old Brag, Mr. Norton, and myself were present when this conversation took place—I do not know whether young Bray was there—I do not remem ber it—I was to tell my brothers what their decision was, to have the money, or the things sold off—I was to tell the proprietors and my brothers together—we were not in the office an hour and a half—we were waiting some time for Mr. Bray; but it was said, I do not recollect whether at the beginning, middle, or end—I did not tell Mr. Norton I had been to the office the day before, to give bail; but he saw me there, and I saw him—he did not tell me I had not given notice—I did not know it, till I asked the question at Mr. Norton's, whether my brothers were to be indicted' for if they were not indicted, they would not require bail—I did not mention any thing about bail—the conversation com menced with Mr. Norton—Mr. Bray and him had some conversation—Mr. Norton said they would be indicted, and he had a reason for it—I am quite sure he told me that my brothers must be in the indictment—my brother told me he was indicted—I did not know they were indicted—I went to know whether they could not be exempt—Mr. Bray said they

could not; and I went to ascertain the cause why they must be in it; and Mr. Norton said, they must be indicted—old Bray might not have been in the office the whole time—he is troubled with the rheumatism, and in a great deal of pain—he was walking about the room and passage, and sat down to rest himself—I do not know how much of the time he was out of the office—we had some conversation, and I came out; and Mr. Bray told me what Mr. Norton had said—he told me, "John, you see I am as good as my word; I said I would bring you down to Mr. Norton, to know why your brothers were in the indictment, and he has told you; I did commission your brothers to see the Paddington committee; and I must have a hundred pounds and times, or your brothers must be in the indictment, or they would be subpœnaed by the proprietors to give evi dence"—Mr. Bray was in and out of the room, when Mr. Norton told me what I have stated—I do not know whether he was near enough to hear—he was walking about the room—I put in bail on Monday—I do not know whether my brothers were members of the committee—I know nothing about it—It is out of my business altogether—I told my brothers this message; and I have told one or two of the proprietors since, when I have seen them—I did not go to Paddington to see them—I had nothing to do with the meeting of the proprietors—I know nothing about it—I have one place in Gloucester-mews, and one in Rathbone-place.

MR. PHILLIPS . Q. Have you known Aaron Bray some time? A. Yes—he has known me, and has had oppurtunities of seeing the way in which I have conducted myself through life.

JOHN WRIGHT . I am a grocer, and live at the corner of Rath bone-place, Oxford-street. I have been in the habit, before and sinse the 8th of June, of observing the conduct of the omnibuses coming up and down Oxford-street—before Aaron Bray commenced, the omnibuses were perfectly quiet—they would stop at my door and put down, and do every thing quiet—after Bray came, there has been a con stant confusion—If an omnibus belonging to one of the proprietors drew up, Bray would drive up very fast behind them, or come in front of them—If an omnibus were to stop, Bray would stop—he would always wait for the other—there appeared no object for him to stop, but he always did stop—when the others have stopped to take up passengers, or set them down, Bray has always stopped, whether he had any one to take up or not—I have observed this conduct for four or five months—I am not interested for either of the proprietors—I have come forward without being subpœnaed.

EDWARD MOORE . I am an undertaker, and live in Rathbone-place, close to Oxford-street, the door is at the corner—I have had my attention called to the omnibuses, going from Paddington to the Bank, up and down Oxford-street, and I have observed the conduct of Mr. Aaron Bray's—the omnibuses were going regularly before he came—after he came, when the omnibuses drew up, Mr. Aaron Bray's drew across them, and prevented the passengers going in them—that has been, if not from the first, very soon after—I observed it in June—I have observed this conduct of Bray's more than twenty times—If Bray has been on the right side, he has tried to come in between them and the pavement—at other times he has gone and drawn across the crossing, to prevent the passengers getting in—I have no interest whatever in the issue of this inquiry—I came without any subpœna.

Cross-examined by MR. WHITEHEAD . Q. How many omnibuses have you

seen with Mr. Bray's? A. I have seen one or two—I did not notice their names—I have seen two frequently, and whenever an omnibus came down the street, Mr. Brays, omnibus would come, and run across it—I have seen the "Emperor"—I cannot swear whether I have seen the "Albion"—I have seen another—I have only observed that when another omnibus has drawn to the side of the street, Mr. Bray has done the same—I have not seen the others do the same to Mr. Bray—I will not swear that I saw Mr. Bray's before the 15th of June.

COURT Q. Did Bray appear to be the aggressor? A. Yes; by con stantly crossing over to them.

JOSEPH MASON . I am a chemist, and live at No, 26, Oxford-street, I have had opportunities of observing the conduct of the omnibuses—I have seen Bray's drive as rapid a pace as the others—If one of the others stopped, Bray's would stop also—I have seen that more than once or twice, and I have seen them run the pole very near the other people's door—he has not stopped for a passenger—I have not had that idea—I have not seen any passengers—when the others went on, Bray did so also, and followed them up or down the street, keeping very near indeed to them, as near as they could—I observed that in the first month—I should say Bray's was the aggressor.

Cross-examined by MR. BALL . Q. When you have seen Bray's did you see it with others? A. Yes; the "Emperor"—I cannot state any others, but I have seen it with two or three others.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. Was it following them or before them? A. They were altogether.

COURT . Q. Did those other omnibuses appear to you to act towards Bray, as Bray did to them? A. I should say there was no difference in that respect.

JURY . Q. Were you subpœnaed here? A. No; I am here quite dis interestedly—It was intimated to me a friend of the parties that Mr. Holding wished me to come, but I should have come without.

COURT . Q. Who is Mr. Holding? A. He was a very respectable che mist in the same shop—I heave no motive in giving evidence but to clicit the truth.

JOHN WILLIS . I am a hosier, and live at No. 371, Oxford-street. I have had opportunities of observing the omnibuses that drive up and down from paddington to the Bank for the last five years—those with "Aaron Bray" on them have been conducted in the most did orderly way imaginable—previous to the omnibuses of Aaron Bray coming on the road, they were conducted as orderly as it was possible for vehicles of that description to be; so much so, that I allowed them, two years ago, to change horses at my house—since Aaron Bray began running up the street, to my coat, I have found that the disorder has been so great that ladies could not come in their carriages to my shop—they were afraid—I have seen the other omnibuses stop to take up passengers on several occasions—I have seen Bray's omnibuses pull up with the pole against the door of the other omni buses, to prevent a passenger from getting in, in more instances than one—from what I have seen, Bray was decidedly the aggressor, because I con sidered he was in opposition to the others—before Bray came, the road was orderly—they were going quitely about their business.

Cross-examined by MR. SERGEANT BOMPAS . Q. When this took place, was the "Emperor" the one before or behind it? A. That I could not say; but I have noticed Mr. Bray's being a blue omnibus.

COURT . Q. During the time you have paid attention to these omni buses, upon your oath, have you seen any difference in the conduct of the

other omnibuses towards Bray's, or have been nearly the same? A. I have noticed that when another omnibus has been going down the street quietly, Mr. Bray's has driven up as near to them as possible—I have not seen the others serve Bray so.

JAMES GRAPE . I am a wine and spirit merchant, and live at No. 412, Oxford-street, I have observed the omnibuses drive up and down from Paddington to the Bank—I have had frequent opportunities of observing the conduct of the drivers—the conducting of the omnibuses before Bray's came on, was upon a very excellent principle, and since that, they have been a great annoyance to the passengers—I have had occasion to ride down to the City, having a nervous debility, and have been annoyed by Mr. Aaron Bray's omnibus coming close to the one I wished to get into—I think that Bray's omnibuses were the aggressors.

Cross-examined by MR. WHITEHEAD . Q. Why do you think they were the aggressors? A. Because I have seen the others drive to get a-bead get ahead of the others—I have never seen the others drive to get a-head of them. not when I have been fiding in them—I have seen the omnibuses driving past each other—I have seen two or three omnibuses with Bray's—I think I can swear I have not seen so many as five—I will go as far as two or three—I will not go farther—I have not noticed the names of the omnibuses—there are so many passing and re passing; but I noticed Bray's, because there are only two of them, and I suppose there are thirty others—Bray's always seemed to be driving up to the spot where I live—they came on the road, in my opinion, to oppose others—I have noticed them more particularly—they did not drive up to my house, but nearly so; within twenty yards or so—they all stop there.

MR. CLARKSON . Q. When you have seen them, was the conduct you complain of, the conduct of Bray's omnibuses? A. Yes.

JAMES KENDALL . I am a victualler, and live in Rathbone-place. I have noticed the omnibuses that go along Oxford-street repeatedly—I have observed Bray's omnibuses—when I have been riding in another, they have repeatedly crossed the front of the bus that I was riding on, and pulled up by the side of it or behind it; that has caused a great annoyance, so far, that I felt inclined to get off the one I was on—our omnibus went on the same as usual—I felt annoyed by those buses con stantly drawing up infront of the bus I was on—I do not know that the rest of the passengers did—Bray's pulled up in the usual way of pulling up—I did not observe that they did it to take up a passenger—I cannot say what reason they had for pulling up, but they did pull up—I did not see them take up passengers when they pulled up.

---- MUNDAY . I live at No. 20, Harrow-road. I am conductor to Mr. Richard Bird, and have been so seven or eight months—I recollect the time of Bray's omnibus coming on—It was in the Whitsun-week—I have observed the conduct of Bray's to my master, because he was driver to the one that I was conductor to—they have told him they would not leave him—they meant to stick to his times.

Cross-examined by MR. WHITEHEAD . Q. What had he said to them before? A. My master said to young Bray, "What do you come in my

time for? it is very hard to come against a poor man getting his living"—he made answer, "We mean to stick to you, we fancy you. "

T. Bolton and R. Trevett — Guilty — Fined 100 l . each.

R. Bird, T. Bird, W. Cowderoy, J. Hill, J. Johnson, and J. Parkes — Guilty — Fined 50 l . each.

R. Carpenter, J. Newell, S. Pearce, and P. Sellick — Guilty — Fined 30 l . each.

T. Corbett, E. Sylvester, — Guilty — Fined 20 l . each.

G. Dodd, W. Gulliver, J. Gough, T. Trevett, J. Sylvester, and J. Smith — Guilty — Fined 5 l . each.

The Jury recommended to mercy those defendants whom the Court thought deserving of it.

ADMIRALTY CASES .

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

2117. GEORGE WHITE was indicted for an assault.

GUILTY .— Confined Three Months , and to enter into his own recogni zance to keep the peace for two years.

2118. WILLIAM BURWOOD was indicted for an assault.

GUILTY .— Confined Three Weeks , and to enter into his own recog nizance to keep the peace for two years.

ADJOURNED TO OCTOBER 26.

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT

APPENDIX TO CAPITAL CONVICTIONS .

Eleventh Session, 1835.

Before Mr. Baron Gurney.

THE KING against

JAMES PRATT , JOHN SMITH , and WILLIAM BONILL .

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT ( to wit .)—The jurors for our Lord the King upon their oath present, that JOHN SMITH , late of the parish of Christchurch, in the country of Surrey, and within the jurisdiction of the said court, labourer, not having the fear of God before his eyes, nor regard ing the order of nature, but being moved and seduced by the instigation of the devil, on the 29th day of August, in the sixth year of the regain of our Sovereign Lord, William the Fourth, by the grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, with force and arms, at the parish aforesaid, and within the jurisdiction of the said court, feloniusly, wickedly, diabolically, and against the order of nature, had a venereal affair with one James Pratt, and did then there, felo niously, wickedly, diabolically, and against the order of nature, carnally, know the said James Pratt, and with him the said James Pratt did then and there feloniously, wickedly, diabolically, and against the order of nature, commit and perpetrate the detestable, horrid, and abominable crime (among Christians not to be named) called buggery, to the great dis pleasure of Almighty God, to the great scandal of all human kind, against the form of the statute in such case made and provided, against the peace of our said lord the king, his crown and dignity. And the jurors a foresaid, , upon their oath aforesaid, do

further present, that the said JAMES PRATT , late of the parish of Christchurch aforesaid, in the country of Surrey afore said, and within the jurisdiction of the said court, labourer, not having the fear of God before his eyes, nor regarding the order of nature, but being moved and seduced by the instigation of the devil, then and there, to wit, on the same day and in the year aforesaid, with force of arms, at the parish aforesaid, and within the jurisdiction of the said court, feloniously, wickedly, diabolically, and against the order of nature, was consenting to and did permit and suffer the said John Smith, in manner and form aforesaid, feloniously, wickedly, diabolically, and against the order of nature, to have a venereal affair with him, the said James Pratt, and then and there carnally to know him the said James Pratt, and with him the said James Pratt, in manner and form aforesaid, to commit and perpetrate the said most detest able, horrid, and abominable crime (among Christians not to be named) callled buggery, to the great displeasure of Almighty God, to the great seandal of all human kind, against the form of the statute in such case made and provided, and against, the peace of our lord the king, his crown and dignity. And the jurors aforesaid , upon their oath aforesaid, do further present that WILLIAM BONILL , late of the parish of Christ-church aforesaid, in the county of Surrey aforesaid, labourer, before the felony aforesaid was done and committede by the said John Smith and James Pratt in manner and form aforesaid, to wit, on the same day and in the year aforesaid, with force and arms, at the parish aforesaid, and within the jurisdiction of the said court, feloniously and maliciouly did incite, move, procure, counsel, hire, and command the said John Smith and James Pratt the felony aforesaid, in manner and form aforesaid, to do and commit against the form of the stature in such case made and provided, and against the peace of our said lord the king, his crown and dignity.

GEORGE BERKSHIRE . I live at No. 45, George-street, Blackfriars-road. I keep a coal-shed and horses for hire—I know the prisoner Bonill—he has lodged with me for about thirteen months—he occupied the back room first floor, and no other.

Q. Have you known of any occupation that he has had? A. Not any.

Q. Has he had visitors? A. Yes, he has.

Q. Men or women? A. Men.

Q. Frequent or seldom? A. Frequent.

Q. Have you known them come singly or in company with cach other? A. Generally two.

Q. Has there been more than one couple in the course of a day? A. At times there have.

Q. On Saturday, the 29th of August, did either of the prisoners come to your house? A. The prisoner Smith.

Q. About what time? A. About four o'clock in the afternoon, or a little after.

Q. Did he inquire for any body? A. He came into the shop, and asked if Bonill lodged there: I said, "Yes, he does: but I believe he is not within"—he replied, "Yes, he is; for I saw him at the window"—he walked through the shop, the passage door being open: I saw him go up as far as the turn of the stairs; he turned back momentarily, went down, and opened the private door, and the other prisoner, pratt, came in—Pratt went up stairs—Smith shut the door, and followed him up into Bonills room—I heard them shut the door, but did not see them go in.

Q. In consequence of suspicions which you entertained, what did you do? A. I went out to the back premises of my place—tgere is a loft over a stable right opposite Bonill's window—I moved a tile, and had a very good sight of his room.

Q. What did you see? A. I saw Bonill sitting on one side of the window and Smith on the other, looking out of window and talking together—after a few minutes I saw Pratt come and put himself down on Bonill's knee.

Q. Sitting on his knee? A. Yes: it was but a short time—he taken rose up, as if pushed by Smith, and placed himself on Smith's knee: and there I saw him for five or six minutes—I then shifted myself, as I was rather cramped, and when I turned my head, Pratt was away—I saw Bonill and Smith sitting at the window—they seemed to be laughing together and in conversation—I then went in doors.

Q. Did you say something to your wife? A. I did; and then went into our back room to my tea.

Q. Some time after that, did your wife say something to you? A. Yes; five or ten minutes after.

Q. In consequence of that, did you go up stairs? A. Yes, and I looked

through the key-hole of the door, and I saw Pratt laying on his back with his trowsers below his knees, and with his body curled up—his knees were up—Smith was upon him—Pratt's knees were nearly up to Smith's shoulders—Smith's clothes were below his knees—I put my shoulder against the door and burst it open.

Q. Well, you saw Pratt on his back, Smith lying on him, and both their trowsers down? A. Yes.

Q. Did you see any motion take place? A. Yes; the motion of the body, and a great deal of fondness and kissing.

Q. What kind of motion? A. The motion we might make—

Q. Supposing it had been connexion between man and woman? A. Yes, equally the same—I put my shoulder against the door, and burst the catch of the latch from the door, opened it, and saw Pratt and Smith—pratt said, "Oh, my God, we are caught," or, "caught at last," I will not sawer which.

Q. Did they change their position? A. They did, as quick as possible—Smith got upon his knees—I saw his private parts as he was getting up

Q. In what state were thy? A. I cannot say, but I saw them.

Q. At the moment of your bursting the door, was Smith laying on Pratt? A. Yes.

Q. In the posture you have described? A. Yes—when Smith got off his knees, Pratt turned himself round on his right side, and I did not see his person—both their trowsers were down then—as soon as Pratt got up as quick as they could, and both fell on their knees, and offered me their purses, and begged hard for me to let them go—Benill was not in the room at this time.

Q. Did he return to the room? A. Yes: three or four minutes after I burst the door open, Bonill returned to the room with a jug of ale.

Q. How long had bonill been away? A. I did not see him go out myself, but I suppose a quarter of an hour, or twenty minutes.

Q. What more passed? A. Bonill came into the room—he seemed surprised at seeing me there, and asked what was the matter—I called him an old villain, and said, "You know what is the matter; you have been practising this in my place for some time past"—he said, "I know nothing of what is done in my place, I have been absent"—he asked me to drink; I said, no, I would not drink in any such society—a lodger came in—I left them in charge of my lodger, and went to the station-house for a policeman myself.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN . Q. The Key-bole of the door, I sup pose, was the ordinary height from the ground? A. Yes—the key was not in it—It is a small room.

Q. How near to the door were the men when you saw them? A. About six feet.

Q. Is the door in the side of the room? A. Yes.

Q. You would look across the narrowest part of the room, would not you? A. I should rather think it was: it is not quite a square room—It is all but the fire-place.

Q. How wide is the room there, do you think? A. I suppose ten feet square, if it had been square, but the fire-place takes the square off—they were rather nearer the door, than the middle.

Q. Then they would not be six feet from the door? A. I cannot po sitively say—I rather think they were nearer the door than the middle.

Q. Looking through the key-hole, you would look in a slanting direc tion? A. No, I looked across their persons.

Q. You could not see the floor close to the door, through the key hole? A. Within a foot or two, I could—there was a bedstead, some tables, and a chair or two, in the room.

Q. Was there any furniture between the door and the place you saw them in? A. No, only the carpet—It is a turn-up bedstead, and their heads were up against it—they were on the floor.

Q. You burst the door—did you find it fastened? A. I did not try that—I drew the staple of the spring-latch.

Q. Was that a latch which would open with a handle outside? A. Yes.

Q. Did you ascertain, on looking afterwards, that it was not fastened, and you might have opened it without bursting it open? A. I did not.

Q. How was it fastened? A. With a spring-latch, which is separated from the lock—the lock was not locked—the key was not it the door.

Q. Is there a handle to the latch outside the door? A. Yes, I be lieve so.

Q. By removing the fastening of the latch, by your force you opened the door? A. I drew the staple of the latch—at that moment I was not aware whether the door was locked or not.

Q. Did you afterwards find it was not locked? A. I believe I did, but it was the next day.

Q. Did not you ascertain that you might have opened the latch with the handle outside? A. Yes; I could.

Q. Whatever the men might have been about, your sudden opening of the door interrupted them, and they got up? A. Yes.

COURT . Q. How long had you observed them, before you opened the door, you saw kissing going on? A. Not half a minute, but it might be nearly a minute from the time I had burst the door open—I burst it open momentarily.

JANE BERKSHIRE examined. Q. Do you remember the 29th of Au gust? A. Yes.

Q. After your husband had said something to you, did you go up stairs to Bonill's room? A. To the door.

Q. Did you look through the key-hole? A. Yes, I did.

Q. What did you see? A. I saw one man undo his trowsers.

Q. What then? A. He laid down on the floor.

Q. What did the other do? A. He undid his trowsers and laid down.

Q. What posture did the one lay in who laid down first? A. He laid on his back.

Q. And his trowsers were down? A. Yes.

Q. How did the other lay down? A. He laid down on him.

Q. Was his face towards him, or his back? A. His face was towards him.

Q. Did you see the naked person of either? A. Both of them.

Q. The man that laid down on the top of the other, did you see his private parts? A. I did.

Q. In what state were they? were his private parts laying down, or in a state of erection? (Not answered.)

Q. Were his private parts in a state for connextion? A. Yes, my Lord.

Q. You saw them lay down, one on the other? A. Yes.

Q. What next did you see? A. I only saw their bodies in movement

Q. What do you mean by being in motion? A. They were moving.

Q. Do you mean such a motion as would take place in connextion be tween a man and a woman? A. Yes.

Q. The man who was laying undermost, did you see in what state his knees were? A. His knees were up.

Q. From what you saw of the posture in which they were, and the mo tion which took place, what do you believe took place between them? A. There was every appearance of a connection between them.

Q. Have you any doubt of that? A. No.

Q. Did you then go down and inform your husband? A. Yes.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN . Q. Had your husband told you what he had seen through the tiles in the shed? A. Yes.

Q. Was it in consequence of that, you went up to look through the key-hole? A. Yes.

Q. Was it by your husband's desire you went up to do so? A. No; he did not tell me.

Q. Had he told you the nature of the proceeding he had observed? A. Yes.

Q. Was your husband going to get his tea? A. He was getting his tea.

Q. It did not suggest itself for you to send him up instead of going yourself? A. No.

Q. You thought it a fit thing for a modest woman? A. I wished to see if there was any thing wrong or not.

Q. I suppose when you did look, you did not wait a moment? A. No; I did not wait long.

Q. How long? A. Not a minute.

Q. Have you told us all you saw take place? A. Yes.

Q. When you said there was every appearance of criminal connection between them, did you mean any other appearance than you stated be fore, that is, the posture they were in, and the motion of the body? A. Yes.

Q. Did your husband go up instantly on your going down? A. Yes. JURY . Q. Was Bonill in the room? A. No, he was out.

Q. Do you know how long he had been out? A. I should think he was out altogether twenty minutes.

ROBERT HOWARD VALENTINE , policeman, examined. Q. Were you fetched on this occasion by Mr. Berkshire? A. Yes; I took the prisoners into custody—I examined the linen of Smith and Pratt—I found the linen of Smith in a very dirty state in front—the back part of his linen was clean.

Q. What kind of dirt do you mean? A. It appeared to me dirt from the fundament—I asked Smith the cause of the dirt being on his shirt—he said he had had the bad disorder, which was the cause of it.

Q. Was it the appearance of excrement or disease? A. Excrement—I said, "A surgeon will prove whether it is that or not," and then he said he had not the bad disease—the front of Pratt's shirt was clean, but the back was in a very fold state—It appeared a different matter from Smith's, of a sort of limey, glutinous nature, and rather yellow.

Q. Did it resemble the seed of man? A. Yes, my Lord; I asked him the cause of his shirt being so dirty—he said he had been bad in his bowels.

Q. Was it in a wet or dry state? A. In a wet state—It appeared to be recently done—I took them all three into custody—Bonill's linen was clean.

Cross-examined by MR. BODKIN . Q. What you saw on Pratt's shirt was in a wet state? A. Yes.

Q. What you saw on Smith's was not so? A. It was a different sub stance.

Q. Was it dry? A. It appeared dry.

Q. Was his shirt on when you examined it? A. Yes.

Q. Was this on the lower part of Smith's flap? A. The inside of Smith's shirt was dirty.

Q. But was it the lower part of the flap? A. Yes; the bottom part of the flap.

Smith'Defence . I am not guilty.

Pratt's Defence . I am innocent of the charge.

Bonill's Defence . I am quite innocent.

Witnesses to the prisoner's character.

FANNY CONIN . My husband is a carman. I know Pratt's—I do not know either of the others—I have known pratt nine years—he is a mar ried man, with a family—he bore a very good character for morality, de cency, and every thing that is good—he always bore a most excellent character in all his situations, in every respect—he was living with his wife and children at the time this happened, and he dined with me between one and two o'clock that day—I wished him to stop to tea, but he said no, he must be home by six o'clock, for he was going to seek after a weekly situation—he had been drinking that day—we had two pots of half-and-half at my house, and he appeared a little affected with liquor—he went away from my house with a friend.

COURT . Q. Where do you live? A. At No. 1, Swan-yard, Holborn-bridge. My husband is a carman—Pratt at that time lived with his wife and family at Deptford—he was a footman in his own capacity, but was going to get a weekly situation—he was a footman out of place.

JACOB PIGGOTT . I am a drayman, in the employ of Barclay and Per kinds. I have been in their service fourteen years last May—I knew Pratt about two years before I went there—I lived next door to him at Camber well—he was a married man, living with his wife and children—I have not known, much about him since I left Camber well, but I heard of him fre quently—he bore a very good character for decency of conduct during the whole time I knew him—I always found him decent in conversation.

COURT . Q. You have not known much of him for the last few years? A. No; he has been living at Greenwhich.

JOHN KEELEY . I am out of place, and live in Swan-yard, Holborn, I have known Pratt nine years down to the present time—he bore the chap racer of a decent, well-conducted, moral man—I always thought so—he was every thing to the contrary of what I have come about.

COURT . Q. How lately have you been to his house? A. I dare say it is six months ago.

Q. Have you known any thing of him for six months? Yes; I saw him this day month at Mrs. Conin's—that is all—his wife is here.

GEORGE WYMAN . Olive at No. 1, Juniper-court, borough, I am no profession at present—I have been acquainted with Pratt upwards of two years—I was not on very intimate terms with him—our acquaintance has continued down to the present time—I have not seen him at his house

with his wife and family—I did not visit him there—I have seen him at Mrs. Conin's—he bore a very good character—he was very decent in con versation, and always conducted himself very gentlemanly.

SUSAN TURNER . My husband is a sailor, and lives at No. 27, Gibson-street, Deptford. I have known pratt for ten years, to the present time—he lived with his wife and family at Dept ford—I have lodged in the house with them for ther last year and a half—I was lodging there when he was taken into custody—he was living with his family at the time—he always bore a good character; and when my husband came home from sea, and I was in my confinement, he slept with my husband—my little girl is now five years old—the prisoner's wife attended me, and nursed me.

MARY ORCHARD . My husband is a ship-calker. We live in Gibson-street, Deptford, at No. 27, in the same house—I have lived these seven years—the prisoner Pratt, with his wife and family, have lived there about six years—he bore a good character for decency and morality in every re spect—during the time I have known him I never heard any thing anise—he left home at ten o'clock on the morning in question.

SUSAN TURNER ( re-examined. ) Q. His sleeping with your husband, I suppose, was for convenience during your confinement? A. Yes; I had but one room.

JURY to MRS. BERKSHIRE . Q. The window of the room is a back win dow? A. Yes; it is a corner house.

Q. Might a person coming to your house see a person at the back win dow? A. Yes, there is a view of the window from the side street.

SMITH— GUILTY.— DEATH . Aged 40.

PRATT— GUILTY.— DEATH . Aged 30.

BONILL— GUILTY . Aged 68.— Transported for Fourteen Years.
