PETITION RIGHTS — PRE-1688 VOCABULARY SEARCH Generated: 2026-08-17 23:30 UTC Sources searched: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip, Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip Search terms: 18 Context window: ±2000 chars Grand total matches: 6547 ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ces, Bill concerning the taking of them, read, 21 Apr. Committed, 28. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 5 May. Paffed 8. Archbifhops and Bifhops, Bill from the Lords, againft Diminution of their Poffeffions, and againft Dilapidations, 18 Apr. Read, 21. Committed, 19 May. Reported, and paffed, 23. Bill for avoiding Multiplicity of Leafes by Archbifhops and Bifhops, read, 11 June. Committed,13. Reported, and to be cng ha 20. Paffed, 22. Vou. First VoxruMeE. Archery, Bill for maintenance thereof, read 30 May. Commit- ted, 7 June. Arefkine, Sir Thomas, Bill from the Lords, for his Naturalization, and to confirm Letters Patents granted to him, 28 Apr. Read, 1 May. Counfel for the Tenants of the Lands to be heard, and Notice of the Second Reading to be given, 2.—New Bill, for naturalizing him, and his Children, read, 18 May. Com- mitted, 21, Reported, and to be ingrofled,22. Patled, 24. Sir James, Bill from the Lords, for his Naturalization, 28 Apr. Read,1 May. Arundell, Earl of, Bill from the Lords, for Reftitution of his only Son, 29 Mar. Read, 31. Committed, 2Apr. Reported, 3. Paffed, 11. Afhion, Bryan. Vide Privileges. Afjart Lands, Bill for eftablifhing them in the Owners and Pof- feflors, read, 19g Apr. Counfel to be heard, 2 May. Heard, and Bill committed, 3. | Sir Tho. Leighton’s Letter concern- ing it, read, eod. die. Bill reported, and to be ingroffed, 17 May. Order for the Third Reading, 24. Pafled, 25. Afton, Lady, Bill to naturalize her, read, * *. Committed, 12 May. Reported, 14. Patfed, 19. Attorneys, and Clerks, in the King’s Bench and Common Pleas, Bill touching them, read, 12 June. Committed, 22. 3° & 4° Jac. I. Parl. 1. Sess. 2. A. 1605, & 1606. ALEHOUSES, Bill for better executing an A& to refirain the haunting of them, read, 7 Feb. Committed, 11. Vide Tipling-houfes. Aliens, Bill concerning them, read, and rejected, 2 Apr. Alnage of new Draperies, Article of Grievance touching the Duke’ of Leneux’s Patent for it, g Apr. Countel to be heard thereon, eod. die. Heard, 16 Apr. Patent voted a Grievance, eod. die. Amendments to Bills, upon the paffing thereof, to be made at the Table, and not without the Door, 2 May. Vide Bills, Archbifhops, and Bifhops, Bill for Confirmation of Eftates made by them, read, and rejeéted, 5 Mar. Arefkine, Sir James, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize him, his Wife, and Children, 6 Mar. Read, 17. Committed,i9. Re- ported, and paffed, 20. Arrefis, Bill to reftrain them on Sundays, read, and committed, * *, Reported,and to be ingroffed, 24 Apr. Read Third time, 28.—Another Bill read, * *. Committed, 2 May. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 7. Rejeéted, 9. Artificers, Bill for Explanation of an A& concerning them, read, 5 Feb. Committed, 7. Reported, and to fleep, 22. Artillery, Bill to repeal Part of an Aét for maintenance thereof, and preventing unlawful Games, read twice, and committed, 26 eo Reported, and to be ingrofled,8 May. Paffed, 9. Attainder of Offenders concerned in the Powder Treafon, Bill from the Lords for it, 3 Apr. Motion for reading it, and De- bate thereon, 4. Bill read Firft time, eod. dic. Read a Second time, 10 Apr. Counfel to be heard for Parties interefted, eod. die. Atlorney-general to produce Evidence for the King, eod. die. Heard. 29 Apr. Counfel for the Parties interefted heard, go. Bill committed, eod. die. Reported, with Amendments, 8 May. Conference defired with the Lords thereupon, and agreed to, eod. die. Reported, 10 May. Counfel heard for Mr. Digby, and Provifo for him tendered, 12. Provifo re- jected, eod. die. Bill paffed with the Amendments, eod. die. Sent to the Lords, 13 May. Attorneys, and Solicitors, Bill from the Lords, to reform the Mul- titudes, and Mifdemeanors, of them, 10 Mar. Read, 19. -Committed, 27. Reported, and paffed, 9 May. j Avon, River, Bill to make it navigable, read, 24 Feb. 4° & 5°Jac.1. Parl. 1. Sess. 3. A. 1606, & 1607. A CTS of Parliament, private, Bill to prevent Fraud and Wrong-doing therein, prefented, and read, 9 ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Committed, 7 Mar. Reported, and recommitted, 12 & 29 May, Ajjafin, committed lo the Gatehoufe for endeavouring to kill a Member, and a Committee appointed to examine him, 27 Nov, Affizes, and Gaol-deliveries, Bill for holding them in the chief Towns of every County, read, 2 June. , Attorney-general, not to ferve as a Member, and a new Writ ors dered in his Room, § Feb. . Aucher, Sir Anthony. Vide Upminfler. Ayton, Sir Robert, his Bill read, * *. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 26. Committed, 22 Mar. 21° & 22 Jac. 1. Parl. 4. A. 1023,.8 1624. AB BOTTS-HALL. Vide Pointz. Abercromy, Patrick. Vide Anfirother, Sir William. Sir George. Vide Anjirother, Sir Robert. Aétions, Bill for Limitation of them, read, 23 Feb. To be ins grofled,25.. Paffed,6 Mar. Conference defired by the Lords upon it, and agreed to, 29 Apr. Bill fent from the Lords, with Amendments, 8 May. Amendments agreed to, 12. - Bill for bringing Adtions in the proper Counties, read, 14 Apr. Committed, 22. Reported, and tobe ingroffed, 24. Read Third time, and, upon Queftion, not to pals, 3 May. — touching Eleétions, not to be admitted in Evidence, 5 Mar. Ager, Sir Anthony, Vide Aucher. Alcock, Edward, Bill for Sale of the Manor of Rampton, his In- heritance, read, 19 Mar. Committed, 6 Apr. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 29. Paffed, 4 May. Alienations in the Exchequer, Bill for Eafe in obtaining and pleading them, read, 26 Feb. Committed, 5 Mar. Order for all, who come, to have Voices, 8. Bill reported, and to be in« grofled, 13. Pafled, 17. Conference defired by the Lords about it, and agreed to, 29 Apr. Bill returned from the Lords, with Amendments, 22 May. Amendments thrice read, cod. die. Conference defired with the Lords about them, and agreed to, 27. Report, 28. New Bill prefented, read Three times, and paffed, eod. die. Alneager’s Office complained of,23 Apr. Parties to attend, eod. die. Report touching it, and Abufes to be prefented asa Grievance, 22 May. Amendment to a Bill from the Lords, by leaving out one Letter, to be prefented in Writing, and fent to the Lords, 19 Apr.— Amendments made by the Lords to Bills, not to be amended without a Conference, 22 May. Vide Bills. Amerfham, Borough, reftored, 4 May. Anftrother, Sir Robert, Bill to naturalize him, and others, read, 6 Apr. Committed,10. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 13. Pafled, 24. Sir William, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize him, and others, 4 May. Read twice, and committed, eod. dic. Le- ported,8 May. Paffed, 19. Anwell River. Vide New River. Anyan, Dr. Petition againft him, 28 Apr. Committee appointed to examine it, eod. die. Report, 20 May. Ciarge againft him to be tranfmitted to the Lords, ead. die. Conference to be defired with the Lords about him, 27 May. Refolution concerning him, eod. die. Petition to the King toremove him, refolved, and Committee appointed to pen it, eod. die. Read, and agreed to, eod. die. Apothecaries, Report touching the Patent for feparating them from the Grocers,6 Apr. Patent condemned, cod. die.. Leave given them to prefer a Bill for fole compounding of Medicines, eod. die.—Bill for incorporating them, read, 19 Apr.» Come mitted, 22. Delivered in to the Clerk, 20 May. Apprentices, = Boge! og INDEX to the First VoLtume. Apprentices, Bill touching the taking of them, read, 1 Apr. Com- mitted, 3. Arms,Copy of the old Bill concerning them ordered tobe brought in, 15 Mar. Bill for providing them, read, and rejected, 16 Apy Committee appointed to draw a Bill for that Purpofe, eod. die. Arundell Ele&tion, Report concerning it, 24 Mar. Sitting Mem- ber heard, and withdraws, eod. die. Refolution touching the Right of Ele@tion, eod. die. Sitting Member voted not duly — eleéted, and Mayor to return the other, eod. die. Charges of the Town, relating to the Election, to be fettled and paid, eod. die. Aucker, Sir Anthony, and others, Bill to make Sale of Lands, read, 5 Apr. Committed, 7. Additional Committees, 12. Aulneager. Vide Alneager. 1° Car. I. Parl. 1.. A. 1625. ACCOUNTS. Vide Taxes. Adjournment, Motion for petitioning the King for it deb> ed, and not to be put to the Queftion, 21 June. Conference de- fired with the Lords touching an Adjournment, and held, 9 July. King’s Anfwer to a Petition of both Houfes for it, com- municated at a Conference, 11. Commiffion for an Adjourn- ment fent to the Lords, eod. die. Declaration, that Adjourn- ments of the Houfe have been always made by themfelves, eod. die. Commiffion fent from the Lords, eod. die. Houfe ad- journs to Oxford, eod. die. Alehoufes, Bill relating to them fent from the Lords, with an Ad- dition, 7 July. Addition thrice read, and pafled, eod. die. Bill fent to the Lords, 9. Anyon, Dr. Meflage to the Chancellor of Oxford, defiring he may not be permitted to preach before the Houfe, 2Aug. Anfwer thereto, cod. die. 1°& 2° Car. I. Parl.2. A.1625, & 1626. A BERGAVENY, Lord. Vide Neville. Accounts. Vide Taxes. Adjournmcnt of the Houfe, Refolution for it not to be communi- cated to the Lords, 25 May. Adminifirations, Bill touching the granting of them, read, 24 Feb. Committed, 7 Mar. Admiralty, Court of, Committee appointed to examine their Pro- ceedings in relation to the Ship St. Peter of Newhaven, 23 Feb. Report, and Refolutions thereupon, 1 Mar. Vide Buckingham. Adultery, and Fornication, Bill againftthem, read, 22 Feb. Com- mitted, 4 Mar.—New Bill read, 11 May. Committed, 1 June. Alehoufe-keepers, unlicenfed, Bill for fupprefling them, read, * *, Committed, 25 Mar. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 5 May. ° Alneager, Report touching his Abufes, 25 May. To be prefented as a Grievance, eod. die. Committee appointed to draw a Bill to prevent them, eod. die. Altham, Sir James, Bill for Sale of Lands, read, 14 Mar. Com- mitted, 18. Anyon, Dr. Report from the Committee of Grievances touching divers Abufes committed by him, 25 May. Warrant ordered for bringing him to the Committee, eod. die. Apothecaries. Vide Medicines. Apparel, Bill from the Lords concerning it, 15 Apr. Read twice, and committed, eod. die. Petition of Wire-drawers read, 26 Apr. Bill reported, with Amendments, and re-committed, 28. Counfel to be heard for the Wire-drawers, and Silk-men, 28 Apr. 2 & 4 May. Heard, 5 May. Bill and Amendments re- ported, 25. Amendments read, and agreed to, eod. die. Apprentices, Bill for taking them without Money, prefented, and read, g May. Y Appropriations, and Vicarages, Bill concerning them read, 18 Apr. Committed, 9 May. Archery, Petition concerning it, referred to the Committee for Arms, 14 Apr. Arms, of the Kingdom, Bill from the Lords, to make them more ferviceable, 18 Mar. Read, 20. Committed, 25. Committee appointed to prepare a Bill for finding Arms, 14 Mar. Report, qJuue. To be confidered by a Committee of the whole Houfe, eod. die. Aftley, Ufaac, Henry, Thomas, and Bernard, Bill for naturalizing them, read, 9 May. Committed, 11. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 6 June. Attorney-general, Motion touching his being returned a Mem- ber, contrary to the Order 12 Jac. g Feb. New Writ or- dered in his Room, 10. Attorneys, Bill for reducing their Number, read, 16 Mar. Com- mitted, 23. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 4 May. Ayre and Cawlder Rivers, Bill to make them navigable, read, 15 Mar. Rejected, 25. 3° 8 4° Car. I. Parl. 3. Sess.1. A. 1627 & 1628. AB ERGAVENNY, Lord. Vide Neville. w — Meflage from the King, defiring there may be ou. I, none at Eafter, 10 Apr. Anfwer thereto, eod.die. Another Meflage, repeating the fame Defire, eod. die. Order there- upon, and Committee appointed to confider how this may not be prejudicial to the Houfe, eod. die. Adultery, and Fornication, Bill for further punifhing them, read, 7 Apr. Committed, 22. 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Another Petition read, and referred to the fame Committee, 15 Apr. Bury St Edmonds Eleétion. Vide Gifford. Butter, Welch, Bill touching the Exportation thereof, read, 28 Feb. Committed, 6 Mar. 3° & 4° Car. 1. Parl. 3. Sef 1. A. 1627, & 1628. BA BE R, Mv. a Member, queftioned touching feveral War- rants under his Hand for billeting Soldiers in Wells, and fe- queftered the Houfe, 9 Apr. Report touching him, 16 May. A new Petition againtt him read, and referred’ eod. die. His Petition read, and Refolution thereupon, 29 May. ‘To be re- admitted, acknowledging his Offence, 17 June. Makes his Acknowledgment, eod. die: Bail. Vide Serjeant. Baltimore, Lord. Vide Shipping. Bier, Batazar de Jar, Bill from the Lords, for his Naturalization, 20 June. Order about the reading of it, eod. die. Billingsley, Henry, allowed Privilege, to profecute a Petition in the Houfe, 1 May. Report touching his Cafe, 24 June. A Petition to be framed to the King for his Enlargement out of Prifon, eod. die. Bills, paffed the laft Parliament, Lift of them to be made by the Clerk; and prefented to the Houfe, 20 Mar.—In any Member's Hands, to be delivered to the Clerk, 21.—Bill dropt upon the Third Reading without any Queftion or Refolution upon it, 19 Apr.—Name of a Perfon in a Naturalization Bill: ordered to be blotted out, and the Bill to proceed for the others, 25 Apr— Bills ordered to be ingroffed without Commitment, 7 May; 3 Parties - & 23 June —Queftion for ng a Bill refpited upon acco of a Meflage from the Los, Eb May.—Bill ait to be ys Second Time but in a full Houfe, 26 May.—Not to be read tilt Nine o’Clock, 20 June. Bills and Procefs. . Vide Grievances. Bludder, Sir Thomas, a Projeétor, complained of about enhancing the Price of Ordnance, 4 June. Book, “er Proceedings in Parliament, Committee to examine it, 11 Apr. Boroughs difcontinued. Vide Elections. Bofion Election, Report concerning it, 8 May. Refolution touching the Right of Eleétion, eod. die. Return to be amended, eod. die. Bowdler, Mr. his Petition touching a Stop of Adminiftration on Pretence of Baftardy, referred to a Committee, 18 June. Re- port, and Order thereon, 24. Brewers, Report from Committee of Grievances, touching their Compiaint of an [mpofition upon Malt, 4 June. Day given the King’s Counfel to defend it, eod. die. Adjudged a Grievance, 19 June. Bribery, Bill againft it, and buying of judicial Offices, read, 22 Mar. Committed, 23 Apr. Bridport Ele&tion, Petition concerning it, 10 Apr. Report touch- ing it, 12. Refolution touching the Right of Eleétion, eod. die. Declared void, and anew Writ ordered, eod. die. Brifiol, Earl of, Bill from the Lords to confirm Letters Patents, 22 May. Read twice, and committed, 23. Paffed, 31. Bromfield and Yale, Tenants of, Bill from the Lords for eftablith- ing their Eftates,3 Apr. Read, 8. Committed,9. Reported, 10. Read the Third time, and debated, 1g. Dropt without any Queftion upon it, eod. die—New Billread, 30 May. Com- mitted, 13 June. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 23. Paffed, 25. Brooke, Walter, King to be petitioned to punifh him for convey- ing away Anne Clifford, and breeding her up in Popery, 24 May. Vide Milborne. Buckingham, Duke of, Articles touching him inferted in the Re- montirance to the King, 11 & 14 June. Burgejje, Richard, Petition and Articles againft him reported from the Committee for Religion, 28 Apr. Sent for as a Delinquent, eod. die. Committed to the Tower, for refufing to anfwer, 9 May. His Petition re-delivered, not being figned, 12. The Accufations againft him to be drawn into Form, and prefented to the Lords, eod. die. Committee appointed to frame them, eod.die. His Petition read, 19 “«° To be brought to the Committee for Religion, eod. die. Difcharged, upon his Sub- miffion, and to attend the Committee till examined, 22 May. To be examined by the Committee notwithftanding the fitting of the Houfe, 26. Petition to be difcharged from his Submiffion in the Country, read, 3 June. Committee appointed to draw a Charge againtt him, to be prefented to the Lords, eod.die. To be brought by the Serjeant, to anfwer his Contempt in going away without Licence, 23 June. Burlimachi, Mr. his Commiffion tor Tranfportation of Ordnance complained of, 4 June. ‘To bring in his Infiruétions, 6. Exa- mined touching fome Ordnance ready to be tranfported, 7. 4° Car. I. Parl. 3. Seff. 2. A.1628. BA RGEMEN, of Effex, &c. their Petition, complaining of Exaétions for Metage and Portage of Grain brought to London, read, and referred to Committee of Grievances, 5 Feb. Benefices, Bill to prevent Corruption in Prefentations thereto, andin Ele&ions in Colleges and Halls, read, 7 Feb. Committed, 23. Billingsley, Mr. his Petition read, and referred to’a Committee, 9 Feb. Bills, publick, when committed, to be taken care of by one of the Committees to be named for that Purpofe, 20 Jan. Bold, Strelley, fent for by the Serjeant for ferving a Procefs upon Serjeant Diggs, 24 Jan. Examined, and committed, 27. Dif- charged, 30. Bribes, Bill againft them, and againft buying and felling of judi- cial Offices, read, 20 Jan. Committed, 23. Browker, Thomas, Efq; Bill to fettle Lands upon him, read, 13 Feb. Browne, Humphry, his Petition referred to the Committee for Mr. Rolles, 10 Feb. John, his Petition againft Sir H. Martin, read, 16 Feb. Vide Martin. Burgejje, Richard, the Complaint againft him refumed, and re- ferred to the Committee for Religion, 13 Feb. A Petition with new Articles annexed, read, and referred, eod. die. To be fent for by Warrant from the Speaker, eod. die. Complaint againft him for abufing the Parliament, 21 Feb. To be fent for by the Serjeant, and Witnefles to attend, eod. die. Alexander, his Petition — Lord Lambert, read, 14 Feb. To have a Warrant for Witnefles, eod. die. Bury St. Edmonds, Bill for paving the Streets, and making the River navigable, read, 20 Feb. | Bufhyn, Philip and Henry, Petition againft the Lord ae A we relan¢ INDEX @ the First Vouvume, Ireland, read, and referred: to’: the Committee’ for Courts. of Juftice, 20 Feb. 1° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Seffi 1s. A. 1547; CH AUNTRIES, and Church Lands, Bill relating, there- to, read, 30 Nov.—Bill for Colleges, Chauntries, and other Spiritualities, read, 1 Dec.—Bill from the Lords, for Colleges: and Chauntries, read, 15 & 17 Dec.—New Bill for Chauntries, Colleges, and free’ Chapels, read thrice, 21 Dec. Paffed, 22. 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Crown, Bill from the Lords, for Recognition of the Succeffion of it, 29 Mar. Thrice read, and paffed, eod. die. Bill from the Lords, for annexing certain Lands infepa- rably to the Crown, 4 July. Vide King. Curriers. Vide Leather. Cujftom-houfes, Bill againft Abufes committed by the Officers thereof, read, 21 Apr. Committed, 5 May. Reported, and to fleep, 12. . 3°& 4° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Sef 2. A. 1605, & 1606. ANONS, ecclefiaftical. Vide Government. Capias wre Vide Jujftices. Cary, John, a Member's Servant, ordered to be whipt for abufing a Perfon upon the Stairs, 25 Jan. Cave, Dame Eleanor, Bill to fettle her Jointure, read, 21 Jan. Committed, 22. Reported, 3 Feb—New Bill prefented, and read, eod. die. Committed, 4 Feb. Reported, and to be in- grofled, 5. Pafled, « #. Chamberlain, Lord, defired to clear the Houfe of Lords of Stran- gers,g Nov. His Anfwer reported, eod. die. Another Meflage for the fame Purpofe, 27 May. Chandois, Lord, Bill from the Lords, for eftablifhing his Lands, with a fpecial Meflage, 27 Mar. Read,1 Apr. Committed, 7. Reported, with Amendments, 7 May. _Paflled, eod. die. Sent ‘to the Lords, 10 May. Chepftow Bridge, Bill for repealing a Statute 18 Eliz. for Repair thereof, read, 31 Jan. Rejected, 8 Feb.—New Bill for Repair thereof, read, 25 Mar. Committed, 31. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 11 Apr. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 17. Lords Amendments agreed to, 5 May. Returned to the Lords, 10. Children, Information given to the Houle of great Numbers being fent beyond Sea, 6 Feb. Motion fora Courfe tobe thought on for recalling them, eod. die. Church, Bill to take away all Excufes for not coming to it, read, #* *. Committed, 19 Mar. -——— Report touching the Grievances relating to the Church, 15 Mar. Vide Grievances ecclefiaftical. Churchman, Robert, complained of for ferving a Subpcena ‘upon Mr Fuller, 11 Feb. To be fent for by the Serjeant, 13. Clerk of the Houfe, to attend a Committee upon a Bill, 25 Mar. His Servant admitted into the Houfe to amend a Bill upon the Third Reading, 2 May. Privilege granted to his Servant, 3. Cloths, undreffed, Bill for Explanation of the Statute 8 Eliz. againft Tranfportation therecf, read, 1 Feb. Committed, 24. Reported, 24 Mar. Paffed, 31. Sent to the Lords, 3 Apr. - a Motion touching an Abufe in the Cuftom of Cloths, 12 eb. — Bill for true making of woollen Cloths, read, 12 Feb. Committed, 19. Reporter, and to be ingroffed, 7 May. Read the Third time, 17. Debated, 19. Patfed, and fent to the Lords, eod. die. — Bill for true making and fearching of woollen Cloths, read, 12 Feb, Committed, 19. Reported, and to fleep, 7 May. -——— Bill for true making of woollen Cloths in Kent and Suffex, read, 27 Feb. Cobham, Lord, and George Brook, Efq; attainted, Bill from the Lords, for vefting their Lands in the Crown, 15 Apr. Read, 17 Apr. & 1 May. Counfel heard, 1 May. Bill committed, eod. die. Reported,ig May. Houte to be fatisfied of the Confent of the Parties, eod. die. Provifo tendered, and Bill re-com- mitted, 23 May. Reported, 26. Another Provifo tendered, and committed, eod. die. Bill and Provifo paffed, eod. die. Colleétors. Vide Cujftoms. Colleges, Heads of. Vide Univerfities. Committees, impowered to appoint a Day amongft themfelves, without applying to the Houfe, 24 Feb.—Sent for to attend the Houfe, 29 Apr. Communion. Vide Sacrament. Comptrollers. Vide Cuftoms. Conferences. Vide Attainder, Beir, Grievances, Papifis, Pur- veyors, Religion, and Trade. ; A Manager, reprehended by the Lords at a Conference, juttified by Vote of the Houfe, 20 Feb. Committee appointed to draw up a Meflage to the Lords thereupon, 22. Report, 24. Conies. Vide Deer. Conflables, petty, Bill for better Execution of their Office, read, * *. Committed, 7 Feb. Reported, and to fleep, 17 Mar. Conveyances, fraudulent, Bill to prevent them, read, and rejected, 25 Feb. ; Conway, Sir Edward, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize his Chil- - dren, 27 Mar. Read, * *. Committed, 3 Apr. Reported, and pafied, * *. Sent to the Lords, 17 Apr. E Copies, ee a, nn SEER S ae —— a oe Rete eee Ss ee a ee ae Hi ap 4 “ff i 4 ti x 3 i INDEX oo the Copies, in Courts of Record. Vide Fees. Copyhold Lands, Bill for the better Affurance of them, read, 24 Yen. Committed, 28. Reported, 12 Mar.—New Bill pre- fented, eod. die. Read, 27 Mar. Committed, 2 Apr. Cornwallis, Sir Thomas. Vide Morrice. Corporations, Bill to make good Grants made by them, notwith- ftanding Mifnomers, read, 23 Jan. Committed, 25. Motion touching it, 3 Apr. Bil for Explanation of the Statute for Execution of Or- dinances made by Corporations, read, 21 Feb. Committed, 28. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 11 Mar. Bill for confirming Lands given to Corporations for cha- ritable Ufes, read, 4 Mar. Committed, 19. Reported, and to fleep, 23 May. Corpus Chrifti College, at Oxford, Bill from the Lords, for the Prefident and Scholars thereof, 1 Mar. Read, 3. Committed, 6. Reported, with Amendments, and paffed, 11. Sent to the Lords, 13. Cottages, Bill for better Execution of an Aét againft erecting them, read, 13 Feb. Committed, 17. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 12 Mar. Dafhed, 20.—New Bill read, 17 Apr. Committed, 18. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 25. Dathed, go. Cotterell, Robert. Vide Grys. Council, reftrained from invective Speeches, 20 Feb.—Heard at the Bar upon a Bill, whilft in the Committee’s Hands, 28 Apr.— Motion for Counfel to be heard upon a Bill, not affented to, May. Courts, yrocleGahiical. Vide Grievances. — Bill touching Fees for Copies in Courts of Record, read, 25Jan. Vide Fees. Currants, Article of Grievance touching the Impofition upon them, reported, 7 Apr. Farmers, and Counfel, to be heard, 9. Debate and Refolution touching it, 11. Cufioms, Bill to avoid Exaétions of Collectors, Comptrollers, and other Officers thereof, read, 13 Feb. Committed, 15 Mar. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 4 Apr. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 17. — Officers of the Cuftoms heard at the Bar, touching the Book of Rates, 10 May. 4°& 5° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Sef? 3. A. 1606, & 1607. YANONS, ecclefiaftical, Bill to reftrain the Execution of them, prefented, 29 Nov. Read, 2 Dee. Committed, 11. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 19 Feb. Paffed, 5 Mar. Cardinall, William, Bill to make his Lands liable to fatisfy a Decree, read, 31 Mar. Counfel to be heard, 2 May. Heard, and Bill rejected, 6. Cavendijh, Mary, Bill for her Relief, read, 25 Nov. Committed, 4 Dec. Counfel to be heard, 6 & 12 May. Heard, and Bill re-cominitted, 19. Report, 25 June—New Bill read, 26. Committed, 27. Counfel to be heard, 1 July. Heard, and Bill re-committed, 2. Report touching a Compromife propounded by the Committee, 4. Her Anfwer thereto, read, eod. die. Chancellor, Lord, Subftance of his Speech at the opening of the Seffion, 18 Nov. ; Chefthunt Vicarage. Vide Salifbury. Churches, poor, Bill for amortizing Lands to them, read, 13 May. Committed, 15. Claujfes, in ingroffed Bills, rafed out at the Table, 12 & 18 May. Vide Bilis. Clifton, George, Efq; Bill for Affurance of Lands to him, read, 15 Dec. Notice to be given to a Party interefted, by Letter from the Speaker, 16. Cloths, woollen, Bill for true making them, read, 17 Feb. Com- mitted, 23. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 31 Mar. Read the Third time, and re-committed, 11 May. Reported, 12. Amended, and pafled, eod. die. Returned from the Lords with Amendments, 30 June. Amendments twice read, and com- mitted, 1 July. Reported, eod.die. Read a Third time, 2 July. Agreed to, and Bill fent back to the Lords, 3. 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Committees upon a Bill faid not to be indifferent, and Motion for others to be added, but not affented to, 3 Mar.—Com- mittee appointed, upon the King’s Motion, 22 a whole See coat hr wat pee as stiaee 4 a aa wa} ae 4 INDEX ‘Zo the First VotumeE. whole Houfe, Manner of their fitting, 23.—Motion for an Order, that no Committee be named, who is not prefent, 20 June.—Committee of the whole Houle fits before the Houfe, July. Conmorities, Bill for Tranfportation of them, read, 10 Mar. Committed, 16. Commoners, Bill for Reformation of Abufes amongft them con- cerning their Commons, read, 14 Feb. Committed, 19. Conferences. Wide Canons, France, Moor-burning, Pardon, Re- manding, Supply, and Tenures. — Time and Place for holding a Conference, defired by the Lords, forgotten, 14 Feb. Appointed, 15.—Meflage from the Lords, defiring a Conference, fent by Meffengers from the Commons, 8 May. Conference agreed to, eod. die. Contraéiors, Bill for Confirmation of Eftates to them, read, 3 July. Committed, 5. Provifion for confirming all other defective Titles, to be inferted, 10. Bill reported, and re-committed, 12. Contraéts, private, Bill read, * * . Committed, 19 Apr. Copies, in Courts of Record, Bill to prevent the wide and wafteful writing of them, read, 27 Feb. Committed, 13 Mar. Re- ported, and to fleep, 27. Correétion, Houfes of. Vide Rogues. ades Coventry, Complaint of one of the Burgeffes being incurably fick, 19 Feb. Vide Rogerfon. ' Counfel for a Bill heard before the Counfel againft it, the Peti- tioner for the Bill having defired Counfel, 24 Apr. Counties, northern, Provifo for them, offered to the Subfidy Bill, rejected, 14 July. Cowell, Dr. Report from the Committee of Grievances, touch- ing his Book called The Interpreter, 24 Feb. Sub-committee — to confider of a Charge againft him, eod. die. Account given to the Houfe, of an Examination taken concerning him, 26 Feb. Debate about a Mefflage to the Lords, touching him, eod. die. Form of the Meflage reported, and agreed to, 27 Feb. Names of the Sub-committee appointed to manage the Pro- ceeding againft him, eod. die. Conference touching him agreed to by the Lords, eod. die. Charge againft him to be put into Writing, and brought to the Houfe, eod. die. Heads of it re- ported, and Perfons appointed to manage it, 2 Mar. Conference reported, 5. Another Conference defired by the Lords, and agreed to, eod. die. Committee to prepare for it, 7 Mar. Report, and Refolution thereupon, 8. Affiftants named, g. Report of the Conference, 10. King’s Anfwer touching him, reported, 26. Proclamation about him, read, 27. Committee of Privileges to prepare an Order for regiftering it, eod. die. Thanks to be given to the King for it, eod. die. Order read, and to be entered, 30 Mar. ; Craford, Mr. called to the Bar, and admonifhed, for coming into the Houfe, 31 Mar. Difcharged, eod. die. Crifpe, Sir Henry, his Bill read, 9 Mar. Committed, 12. Re- ported, and to be ingroffed, 2 Apr. Read the Third time, and Counfel heard, 20. Paffed, 21. Sent to the Lords, 30. 12° Jac. I. Parl. 2. A. 1614. C4 MBRIDGESHIRE Eleétion, Petition concerning it, referred to the Committee of Privileges, g Apr. Report, and Order thereupon, 19. Debate about it, 14 May. Campe, Benediét;e Bill for Sale of Lands, for Payment of his Debts, read, 1 June. Canons, ecclefiaftical, not confirmed by Parliament, Bill to re- firain the Execution of them, read, 31 May. . Carmarthen, Borough of, Complaint againft the Sheriff for hin« dering the Eleétion of a Burgefs for it, 12 Apr. Committee of Privileges to examine it, and Clerks of the Crown and Petty- bag to attend, eod. die. 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Charge to be prefented to the Lords at a Conference, eod. die. Churchill, the Regifter, to be fent for by the Serjeant, eod. die. King’s Meffage about granting a Commiflion to fome of both Houfes to take Examinations, 19 Mar. Refolution,and Mef- fage, to the King, thereupon, eod. die. Conference with the Lords defired, and agreed to, eod. die. Petition of Wood, and others, againft the Lord Chancellor, read,20 Mar. Committee operas to examine Churchill, eod. die. Churchill at the Bar charged to fpeak the Truth concerning this Matter, eod. die. Meflage from the Lords, defiring, that fome Members may be examined upon Oath, eod. die. Leave given them to go volun- tarily as private Men, eod. die. Report of the Conference touching this Matter, eod. die. Report of Churchill’s and Keel- ing’s Examination, eod.die. This, and feveral other Papers, to be delivered to the Lords, eod. die. A further Charge of Cor- ruption againft the Lord Chancellor, reported, and tran{mitted to the Lords, 21 Mar. Report touching a Bribe taken by him from the Mafters in Chancery, for enrolling their Patent, 27 & 28 Apr. Houfe defired by the Lords, to come and demand Judgment againft him, 3 oo Chancery, Court of, Debate about it, 26 Mar. Committee to con- fider of Regulations, eod. die. Report, 17 Apr. Committee appointed to draw a Bill for regulating the Chancery, 25. omplaint againft Churchill the Regifter, referred, eod. die. Petition of the Mafters of Chancery read, 26 Mar. Re- port from the Committee of Grievances, touching their Privy Seal for Fees for References, 27 Apr. Their Petition adjudged falfe and fcandalous, eod. die. Privy Seal voted a Grievance, and Committee to examine the Enrolment of it, eod. die. Report, 28 Apr. Committee empowered to fend for the Mafters noi attendant upon the Houfe of Lords, eod. die. Matters to be in- formed of the Judgment of the Houfe touching their Fees and Privy Seal, 31 May. Bill to eftablifh two Judges Affiftants in the Court of Chancery, and to leffen the Charge of Suits, read, 30 Apr. Chantries, Colleges, &c. Bill for Explanation of an Act touching them, read, 13 Feb. Committed, 22 Mar. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 30 Apr. Charity, Works of. Vide Hofpitals. Charta Magna. Vide Imprifonment. Cheefe. Vide Butter. - Children, Bill for catechizing them, read, 26 Apr. Committed, 16 May. Churchill, Mr. Vide Chancellor,.and Chancery. Clergymen. Vide Jujftices—Report touching a Clergyman re- turned for Morpeth, 7 Feb. Return declared void, and a new Writ ordered, 8. Clerk’s Book, Committee to furvey the Entries, 10 & 13 Feb. 26 Mar. & 19 Dec.—Clerk to prepare a State of the Bills in the’ Houfe, 14 Dec. Cloth, Bill for better venting it, and Reftraint of Excefs in Ap- parel, prefented, 16 Feb. Vide Apparel. Bill touching Cloth, read, 9 Mar. Committed, 21. Cloth, Sa a ro ot ISS =< 5 = es aT wre Si ee ee Cloth, Bill for better venting that of this Kingdom, read,19 Apr. Committed, 21. Bill for Exportation of Cloth, and other woollen Manu- faAures, read, 26 Apr. Vide Merchants. Bill for better Maintenance of Clothing, read, 3 May. Committed, 5. Clough, Edmund, Efy; Bill from the Lords to enable him to convey Lands to the Earl of March, 17 Mar. Read, 22. Committed, 1 May. Coals, Bill for free Traffick thereof, read, 27 Feb. Motion touching the Patent for Newcaftle Coals, 26 Mar. Vide Patents. Coin. Vide Money.—Bill to prevent Exportation of it, read, 9 May. Coke, a Efq; Motion touching a Quarrel between him and Sir Cha. Morrifon, 3 May. 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Requefi of a Chairman of a Committee to be dif- charged from the Chair, not granted, 15 Mar.—Committee appointed to meetand fettle Petitions and Bills, during an Ad- journment, 24 & 26 Mar. Report of their Proceedings, 17 Apr.—The appointing of the Chair left to the Difcretion of the Commnittee, 19 Apr.—A Committee appointed to furvey the Bufinefs of the Houfe, and to report what fitteft to have Priority, 26. Report, 27.—A Refolution, that all, who come to a Committee, are Committees, as well as thofe nominated, when all, who come, are to have Voices, 11 May.—Proceed- ings of the Houfe upon a Difference who fhould take the Chair of a Committee, 28 Nov. Commons, and watte Grounds, Bill for improving them, for the Ule of the Poor, read, 7 Mar. To fleep, 7 May. Communion, to be received by the Houfe at St. Margaret’s, and Dr. Uther to preach, 5 Feb. Exception taken thereto by the Prebendaries of Weftmintier, and another Place appointed, 6. King’s Letter to the Speaker, relating thereto, read, and Order thereupon,9. Meflage from the Dean reported, 10. The re- ceiving of the Communion deferred, and King to be moved for Dr. Uther to preach, eod. die. King’s Anfwer reported, 12 Feb. Account of the Colleétion, at the Communion, given in, and Order for diftributing it, 27. Dr. Ufher thanked, and defired to print his Sermon, eod. die. Concealments, Patents of, complained of, and to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, 28 Feb. Report touching Sir G. Monperfon’s Patent, 6 Mar., Committee appointed to fearch Precedents relating thereto, 7. Report,and Patent condemned, eod. die-—Mr. Typper’s Patent to be 5%, * in, and he to at- tend, 21 Mar.—Report touching Sir Jo. Townfend’s Patent, 26 Mar. Patent condemned, eod. die. Bill againft Concealments, prefented, and read, 1 Mar. Committed, 2. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 21. Paffed, 24 Apr. Con, canal Vide” Adjournment, Bennett, Chancellor, Floyd, nformers, King, Monopolies, Monperfon, Recufants, Religion, and Sunday. Matter of a Conference to be concealed till the Con- ference paft, on Pain of Cenfure of the Houfe, 8 Mar.—Left to the Houfe, by the Lords, to appoint the Time for a Confer- ence, 12 Mar.—Heads to be delivered to the Lords at a Con- ference, in Writing, but not to be drawn “into Precedent, 15 INDEX @o the First VoLuUME. Mar.—Conference defired by the Lords, about divers Things to be propounded, 22 Mar. Held, and reported, eod. die.— sages © vag 4 by we Lords, with the whole Houfe, 26 ar. 2 ay ; 20 Nov. Reported, 27 Mar. ay ; ok 22 Now. # eh 2 at onformity, Bills of, and Protections, King’s Meflage concerni them, 20 Mar. A Proclamation pints ahem to < Ps goa die. Committee appointed to draw a Bill againft them in future eod. die. King entreated to releafe Perfons imprifoned for difobeying re about them, eod. die. His An{fwer thereto reported, 22 Mar. Proclamation read, and to be further con- fidered of, eod. die. Motion about it, and Committee ap- pointed to confider of it, 26 Mar. Reported, and agreed to eod. die. King to be acquainted therewith, and thanked for giving way to it, eod. die. Conftables. Vide Rogues. Coopers, Bill read, 9 Mar. Coppyn, Lady, her Petition reported, and Leave given her to fue a Member, 27 Apr. Corn, and Grain, foreign, Bill prohibiting the Importation there- of, read, 17 Feb. Committed, 8 Mar. 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Charter-houfe Hofpital, Bill for Confirmation of it, read, g Mar. Committed, 13. Charters, Complaint of Impofitions in Towns-corporate under colour of them, 1 Apr. Bill againft them, in the laft Parlia- ment, to be looked out, eod. die. Vide Fees. Cheeke, Sir Thomas. Vide Beaumont. Children, Bill for catechizing and inftruting them, prefented, and read, 10 Apr. Committed, 14. Chippenham Eleétion, and double Return, Motion about it re- ferred to the Committee of Privileges, 25 Feb. Report touch- ing a Miftake in the Return of Mr. Maynard, by the Name of Charles, inftead of John, 12 Mar. Return to be amended, eod. die. To be amended by the Bailiff of the Town, 15 Mar. Fur- ther Report, touching the Return of Sir Francis Popham and Mr. Pymme, 12 Mar. Debate touching the Right of Eleétion, 12 & 15. To be further heard at the Committee, 22 & 24. Report, and Refolutions thereupon, g Apr. Churchill, Mr. Regifter of the Court of Chancery, Report from the Committee for Courts of Juftice, touching him, 14 Apr. Ordered to attend, cod. die. Cirencefter Election, Report and Refolutions thereupon, 21 May. Cities, and Towns-corporate. Vide Fees. Citizens, and Burgefles, Bill to prevent Suits between them about Precedence, read, 18 Mar. Clarke, Sir Francis, Bill to fell Lands, read, 17 Mar. Com- mitted, 23. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 30 Apr. Pafled, 5 May. Sent from the Lords, with Amendments, 22. Amend- ments agreed to, 27. ' Clerk of the Market, Committee of Grievances to examine his Abutes, 8 Mar. Patent to be brought in, 19 Apr.—Bill againtt Abufes of the Clerk of the Market, ordered to be drawn, 22 Mar. Prefented, and read, 12 Apr. Committed, 14. Clerk of the Houfe. Vide Journal.—Allowance made to him, and his Son, out of the Colleétion from the Members, 29 May. Cloths, woolien. Vide Trade. Bill for true making of woollen Cloths, prefented, 2 Mar. Read, 3. Committed, 8. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 20 Apr. Paffed, 29. Bill for free Trade of Welch Cloths, read, 15 Mar. To be ingroffed, 22. Paffed, 7 Apr. Patent for difpenfing with the Tranfportation of Cloths unwrought, complained of, and to be brought to the Com- mittee of Grievances, 28 Apr. Cloth-workers. Vide Trade. Bill for Relief of the Cloth-workers of London, read, 14 Apr. Committed, 15. Coals. Vide Sea-coals. Colchefter Haven, Bill for repairing it, read, 10 Apr. Committed, 14. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 26. Pafled, 5 May. Sent from the Lords, with Amendments, 25. Amendments agreed to, 26. Colleétion for the Officers of the Houfe. Vide Houfe. Committees, impowered to hear Counfel, 23 Feb. & 23 Mar.— Member of a Committee difabled from voting, his Name being mifwritten, 2 Mar.—Committees impowered to examine Wit- nefles, 26 Feb. & 17 Apr. An Order, that in the Appointment of Committees upon private Bills, there fhall not be a general ‘Claufe for all, who come, to have Voice, 20 Apr.—No Com- mittee to fit after Eight o’Clock in the Morning, without fpe- cial Order, 1 May. i, Communion to be received by the Houfe, 23 Feb. Vide Houfe.— Certificates brought by Perfons to be naturalized, of their hav- ing received the Communion, 2 Mar. Comptrollers. Vide Cujfiomers. Concealments, Bill againit them, read, 23 Feb. Committed, 24. Reported, and re-committed, 18 Mar. Petition relating there- to, referred, 23. Bill reported, and to be ingrofled, 2 Apr. Paffed, 7. Meflage to the Lords, {pecially recommending it, 12. Their Anfwer reported, eod. die. Bill fent from the Lords, with Amendments, 21 May. Amendments twice read, and committed, 22. Reported, and agreed to, 24. Report touching Sir Jo. Townfend’s Patent of Conceal- ments, 28 Apr. & 19 May. Petition of Grievance concerning it, read, and allowed,25 May. _ - Conferences. Vide Aétions, Alrenations, King, Monopolies, Nor- wich, Parliament, Recufants, Statutes, Supply, and Treaties. The whole Houfe to go as a Committee to a Conference, 23 Feb. Leave to Two Members to make a Relation thereat, eod. die. Meflage to Lord Chamberlain and Lord Marfhal, to admit no Strangers thereto, 24 Feb. To be held in Whitehall, the Painted Chamber being thought too ftrait, eod. die. Two Members, and the Serjeant, to take care, that none but Mem- bers be admitted, eod. die. Members to deliver their Names, and the Places they ferve for, to the Serjeant, cod. die—Mem- bers at a Conference, not of the Committee, fent for by the Serjeant, '’ admonifhed by the Speaker, 6 Apr. Vou, L. First VoLumMme. Cope, Thomas, Bill for Sale of his Lands, read, 6 Mar. Com- mitted, 16. Counfel to be heard upon the Petition of his Cre- ditors, 23. Additional Committees, 25. Bithop of Coventry to have Notice, eod. die. Committee impowered to examine Witneffes, 17 Apr. Cornwall Duchy. Vide Prince. Coventry and Litchfield, Bithop of, Bill to explain an A& 23 Eliz. for Affurance of a yearly Rent to him, and his Succeffors, read, 11 Mar. Committed, 16 Apr. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 3 May. Paffed, 5. Sent to the Lords, 8. Courts of Juftice, Committee of the whole Houfe to fit thereon, 23 Feb. Impowered to fend for Witneffes, and Records, and to hear Counfel, 26. Motion for a Sub-committee to receive Petitions, and Order thereupon, 17 Mar. Report touching the Proceedings in Chancery, upon a Fine acknowledged by Mr. Grice, and his Wife, 17 Mar. Further Report, and Order there- upon, 26 May.—Report touching the Proceedings of the Com- mittee upon feveral Petitions preferred to them, 14 Apr.—Re- 0 touching Mr. Grimefdich’s Petition againft the Lord. eeper and Regifter, and Order thereupon, cod. die. 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Cope, Sir William, Petition of Lady Coppyn, and her Son, againft him, prefented, and referred to a Committee, 21 June. (Ques- tion touching his Election, eod. die. His Petition rejected, 22 June. Coppyn, Lady. Vide antea Cope. Cornwall, Duchy, Bill from the Lerds, to enable the King to make Leafes thereof, read, * *. Committed, 4 July. Re- ' ported, and pafled, 7. Courts of Equity, Bill for reverfing erroneous Judgments therein, tendered, 22 June. 1° & 2° Car.\. Parl. 2. A. 1625, & 1626. C ALDER River. Vide Ayre. Cambridge Univerfity. Vide Buckingham. Canterbury, Dean of, to preach before the Houfe, 9 Feb. Canvee, Ile of, in Effex, Bill for fettling Lands therein, recovered from the Thames, read, 21 Mar. Committed, 28. Captives at Salley, Letter from one of them, read, 16 Feb. Leave given to Members to give Evidence at the Lords concerning them, 28 Mar. Cave, Sir Bryan, Bill for Sale of Lands, &c. read, 2 Mar. Churter-houfe Hofpital, Bill to efiablifh the Foundation of it, read, 10 Feb. Committed, 11. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 25. Paffed, 7 Mar. Cheapfide Crots, Motion about the extraordinary Gilding thereof, referred to the Committee for Religion, 9g May. Church, and Commonwealih, Bill for continuing Unity therein, read, 13 June. Committed, 14. Church-papifis, Bill for better Difcovery of them, read, 2 May. Commiited, 8. Citations. Vide Courts, ecclefiatical. Cleare, Sir Henry, Bill to fell Lands, read, 1 May. 4. Additional Committees, 23. Clergy, Bill for their Quiet, and the Prefervation of the Rights of Patrons, read, 13 Feb. Committed, 14. ——— Bill againft certain Clergymen being Juftices of Peace, read, 7 Mar. Committed,10. Reported, and re-conitted, 14. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 21. Pafled, 25. Clerk of the Market, Bill for better ordering of his Office, read, 7 Mar. Committed, 14.—Warrant to the Clerk of the Mar- ket, read, and referred to the Committee of Grievances, 2 June, Clerk of the Crown, to attend the Houfe with Returns, 9 & 16 Feb. To attend the Committee of Elections, 13. To perfect the Return Book, 5 Apr. Clerk of the Houfe, Allowance made to him out of the Collection trom the Members, 15 June. Cleydon, Mr. a popifh Schoolmafter, Report from Committee for Religion, touching him, 25 Mar. Sent for to attend the Com- mittee, eod. die. Further Report touching him, 1 May. Dif- miffed, on Promife to take the Oaths, &c. eod. die. Clitheroe, new Writ ordered for it, 18 Feb. Clopton, Sir William, Bill to aflure Lands, &c. read, 8 Mar. Re- jected, 20. Cloths, dyed and dreffed, Bill for better vent of them, read, 4 Mar. Committed, 6. Reported, and to fleep, r4. — white, Report touching the Licence for Tranfportation thereof, and King to be petitioned to enlarge it, 24 May.—Bi!! for better vent thereof, read, 1 June. Committed, 5. Reported, and re-committed,10. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 12. Cloth-workers, and Dyers, Bill for their Relief, read, 18 Apr. Re- jected, 6 May. Coat and Conduct Money, grand Committee to confider thereof, 7 June. Coke, Sic Edward, Meflage from the King, defiring a new Writ may iflue for electing a Knight for Norfolk in his Room, being Sheriff of Bucks, 10 Feb. Referred to the Committee of Pri- vileges, eod. die. Report, 27 Feb. Debate thereupon deferred, eod. dic. Privilege granted to Sir Edw. Coke, 9 June. Mr. Meffage from the King, concerning fome Words fpo- ken by him in the Houfe, 14 Mar. Order for taking it into Confideration, and Mr. Coke toattend,eod. die. Effect of the Words complained of, eod. die. Meflage confidered in a Com- mittee of the whole Houfe, 15 Mar. , Collection to be made for the Officers of the Houfe, 13 June. Or- der for diftributing it, 15. Colleges. Vide Benefices. Committee appointed, to confider of an indifferent Courfe for na- ming Committees, 3 Mar.—A Direétion, that any Member may be prefent atthe Examination of Witnefles before aCom- mittee, 24 Apr.—Committee impowered to name a Sub-com- mittee to take the Examination of Witnefles fick, or otherwife hindered from attending, eod. die —Chairman of a Committee licenfed to be abfent, and another appointed in his Room, 14 June. Commonwealth. Vide Church. Communion, to be received by the Houfe, 9 Feb. Concealments, Billagainft them, read, 13 Feb. Committed, 14. Committed, — Vide Buckingham, Digges, Faft, France, King, and ingdom. — A Conference defired by the Lords, on Matters of great Importance, 7 Mar. Agreed to, and Committee appointed to manage it, eod. die. Report, 8 Mar. Committee appointed to prepare an Anfwer to the Lords thereon, eod. die. Anfwer re- ported, and agreed to, 10 Mar.—Conference defired with the Lords, not accepted, but a Meeting agreed to, 8 May. Contagion, Committee to prepare a Bill to prevent it, 29 Apr. Phyficians and Apothecaries to attend, eod. die. Cope, Sir William, Bill to fell Lands, read, 18 Feb. Copyhold Lands, Billto enable Purchaiers to difpofe thereof be- fore Admittance thereto, read, and rejected, 3 May. Cottages, Bill to avoid the Increafe thereof, read, 17 Feb. Com- mitted, 4 Mar. Reported, and re-committed, 23 May. Courts of Juftice, Grand Committee for them appointed, 10 Feb, Report touching Mr. Grimidich’s Petition againft the Bifhop of Lincoln, and Order thereupon, 11 May. of Equity, Bill for reverfing erroneous Judgmentstherein, read, 17 Feb. Committed, 27 Mar. ecclefiaftical, Bill touching Citations iffuing thereout, read,1 Mar. Committed, 9. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 21. Paffed, 18 Apr. Currants, Report touching the Impofition thereon, 25 May. To be prefented as a Grievance, eod. die. Cujioms, pretermitted. Vide Grievances, and Nicholfon. — Report touching undue Exaction of Fees by Officers of the Cuftoms, and King to be petitioned thereon, 24 May. 3° & 4° Car. I. Parl. 3. Sess.1. A, 1627, § 1628. C4 NTER BURY, Archbifhop of, his Speech at a Con- ference, to be delivered in Writing, 26 Apr. Chapman, Mr. his Petition about his !mprifonment for not pay- ing his Affeffment towards the Contract between the City and the King, read, and referred to the Committee for Grievances, 27 Mar. Charta Magna. Vide Liberty,and Petition of Right. Bill to confirm the Stat.of Magna Charta, read, 13 June. Charter-houfe Hofpital, Bill for eftablifhing the Foundation there- of, read, 31 Mar. Committed, 8 Apr. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 23. Pafled, 9 May. Children of Recufants. Vide Recufants. Church,and Commonwealth, Bill for continuing Peace and Unity therein, read, 3 Apr. Committed, 7. Citations. Vide Courts, ecclefiatiical. Clegat, Nicholas, Petition touching his Imprifonment for not paying his Affeffment towards the Contract with the King, read, and referred to the Committee of Grievances, 26 Mar. Re- port, 2 May. His Imprifonment voted illegal, eod. die. Peti- tion to be prefented to the King, for his Enlargement, and Committee appointed to draw it, eod. die. Clergymen, Bill to difable them from being Juftices of Peace, read, 17 Apr. Committed, 21. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 2 May. Paffed,16. Sent to the Lords, 26. Clothiers of London, their Petition read, and referred io the Com- mittee of Grievances, 23 Apr. C/oths, white, Bill for better vending of them, read, 26 May. Coals. Vide Sea-coals. Coat and Conduét Money, Committee appointed to draw a Peti- tion to the King thereon, 12 June. Cocks, Judith, her Petition depending before the Committee of Grievances, referred to the Committee for Courts of Juftice, 8 May. Colchefter EleCtion, Petition concerning it, read, 20 Mar. Report, and Refolution touching it, 28. Return amended, eod. die. Colledion for the Officers of the Houfe. Vide Houfe. Committees, fuch as are named thereof to have Place given them at the Meeting, 25 Apr.—Committee upon a Bill impowered to fend for Perfons and Records, 26 Apr.—Order for all, who come to a Committee, to have Voice, revoked, 23 May.— Committee impowered to fit, notwithftanding the fitting of the Houfe, 26 May.—Committees clofed by Order of the Houfe, g June. Communion, to be received by the Houfe, and Committee ap- pointed to fee it done, 20 Mar. Collection to be made thereat, 3 Apr. Report of the Sum collected, and Order for the Diftri- bution of it, 16. Report of fuch Members, as did not receive the Communion, and Proceedings thereon, 19 May. Concealments, Bill relating thereto, to be brought in, 7 Apr. Conferences. Vide Fafi, Liberty, Manwaring, Money, Petition of Right, Recufants, Subfidy, and Suffolk. Cope, Judith, her Petition read, and recommended to the Lord ayor and Court of Aldermen, 17 June. Cornwall Election, Letters written by fome Deputy Lieutenants, and Juftices of Peace, concerning it, read, andreterred toaCom. mittee, 20 Mar. Report touching them, and the Authors fent for by the Serjeant, 21. Motion for his taking Bail for them, difagreed to,22. Houfe informed of Two Indentures —s een INDEX ‘¢o the been returned, 28 Mar. Clerk of the Crown to certify, how he received the Second Indenture, eod. die. Members, returned by the Sheriff, to fit in the Houfe till difplaced by Order, eod. die. Clerk of the Crown examined, touching the Returns, 29 Mar. Petition of feveral of the Perfons complained of, read, 21 Apr. Orders and Proceedings thereupon, 21, 22. & 25. Serjeant to take Security for their Appearance, 8 May. Com- miltee, to examine the Complaint againft them, ordered to meet, 9g. Report concerning them, 12. Their Petition for Counfel read, and debated, eod. die. Severally examined, and to be heard by Counfel at the Committee, eod. die. Queftion for allowing them a further Day, difagreed to, 13 May. To ~ be heard by Counfel at the Bar, eod. die. Heard, eod. die. Centured, and committed, eod. die. To make Recognition of their Offence at the Affizes, and Committee appointed to pen the Form of it, eod. die. Petition of the Serjeant at Arms concerning his Fees, read, and referred to a Committee, 20 June. Auother Petition read, and referred, 23. Coventry Eleétion, and double Return, Cafe ftated, and Deter- mination of it deferred, 21 Mar. Petition from Coventry, relating thereto, 24. Referred to the Committee of Elections, eod. die. Report, and Proceedings thereupon, 9 Apr. Courts of Jufiice, Grand Committee for them to meet, 20 Mar. Report touching Mr. Etheringtou’s Petition, and Order there- on, 29 Apr. ‘Touching Dr. Worrall, aid Order thereon, 2 May. Committee clofed by Order of the Houfe, 9 June. Ecclefiaftical, Bill concerning Citations iffuing thereout, read, 8 Apr. ‘To be ingrofled, 16. Pafled, 17 May. Sent to the Lords, 26. Crompton’s Petition read, 2 June. Curates, preaching, Bill for better Allowance to them, read, 1 Apr. Committed, 12 May. 4° Car. 1. Parl. 3. Sess. 2. A. 1628. AMBRIDGE Univerfity. Vide Univerfities. Chambers, Mr. Jhis Petition read, and referred to the Com- mittee upon Mr. Roll’s Bufinefs, 28 Jan. Another Petition, complaining of a new Seizure of Goods, read, and referred tu the fame Committee, 17 Feb. Chichefier, Bithop of. Vide Jones. Clergymen, Bill to difable certain of them from being Juftices of Peace, read, 4 Keb. Cloths, woollen. Vide /Vool. Cole, Michael, Patentee of Medway River, Petition againft him, referred to the Committee of Grievances, 16 Feb. Committees, Motion for a better Courfe for naming them, referred to Committee of Privileges, 20 Jan.—Chairman of general Committees the latt Seflion, to be continued, 23 Jan. Some of them excufed on account of Age and Infirmity, and others ap- pointed, eod. die. Chairman of a felect Committee appointed by the Houte, 30 Jan. Communion to be received by all Members newly returned, 21 Jan. Conference. Vide Faji. Corn, aud other Provifions, Committee appointed to confider of the Preparations for fending them to Spain, 26 Jan. King de- fired to give Order for ftay of the Ships, eod. die. His Anfwer reported, 27 Jan. Report touching this Matter, 29. Requeft to the Ring renewed, and his Anfwer, eod. die. Cofins, Mr. Report from the Committee for Religion, touching a Charge againft him, 5 Feb. Notice to be given him, to anfwer, cod. die. Day appointed for hearing the Complaint, 10 Feb. Courts of Juftice, Grand Committee for them to fit, 20 Jan. Chairman appointed, 23. Report touching Mr. Nowell’s Pe- "tition againft the Attorney of the Duchy, 7 Feb. Vide Nowell. ecclefiattical, Bill concerning Citations iffuing thereout, read, 11 Feb. Coxe, Judith, her Petition read, and referred to the Committee of Grievances, 23 Feb. ; . Curates, preaching, Bill for betterAllowance to them, read, 29Jan. Cujftomers. Vide Rolles. 1° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sess. 1. A. 1547. ACRE, Leonard, Bill from the Lords, to repeal an Act of Parliament and Award, relating to him, read, 13 & 20 Dec. Dijfirefes, Billagainft putting them in feveral Pounds,read,17 Nov. 2° & 3° Edw. VI. Parl.1. Sess.2. A. 1548. DA RCY, George, Bill from the Lords, for his Reftitution, read, 9 & 11 Jan. —Paffed, 14. Divorce. Vide Adultery. 3° & 4° Edw. VI. Parl.1. Sess.3. A. 1549. DE ATH. Vide Heirs. Debts affigned, Bill that Affigns fhall fue in their own Names, 7” 3 Dec. Rejected, 7. Vou. I. First VoLuME. Dee River, Bill for removing Wears therein, read, 26 Nov. Committed, 5 Dec.—Bill for the City of Chefter, for Paflage upon the River Dee, read, 21 Dec. To be ingrofled, 23. Read the Third time, 15 Jan. Pafled, 16. Provifo from the Lords, read thrice, and pafled, 25. Demefne Lands. Vide Lands. Devon, Clothiers of, Petition exhibited by them, for remitting the A& of Relief for making Cloths, read, 16 Noy. Re-de- livered, and Order thereupon, eod. die. Drayton, Weft, Bill from the Lords, for a Church-yard thereat, gJan. Read,i0& 14. Patled, 15. 5° § 6 Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sess. 4. A. 1551, & 1552. HATH. Vide Heirs. Denizens. Vide Alyn. Devereux, William, Bill trom the Lords, for Affurance of Lands, 17 Mar. Read, 18 & 19. Patfled, 25. Divine Service, Bill from the Lords, for coming thereto, read, 26 Jan. Vide Common-prayer. Divorcement, Bill from the Lords, againft fuch as leave their - Wives without it, 19 Mar. Read, 22. Committed, 30.— New Bill read, 5 Apr. To be ingroffed, 7. Paffed, 11. Dornicks. Vide Hats. Durham, Bithop of, Bill from the Lords, againft him, for Mif- prifion of Treafon, 31 Mar. Read, 4 Apr. Lords to be re- quefted, that he and his Acceflaries may attend in Perfon, eod. die. .7° Edw. VI. Parl. 2. DE ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f their Debts, read, 9 Mar. Com- mitted, 28 Apr. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 24 May. Pafled, 29. Bill for Recovery of Debts againft Executors and Admi- niftrators, read, 9g May. Deligne, Sir Samuel, Bill to naturalize him, read, 26 Feb. Com- mitted, 16 May. Difiillers, Bill for their Relief, read, 27 Feb. Dizon, Mr. and Almond, Patentees for licenfing Alehoufes, to _" 12 Mar. Aflurance given for their forthcoming, 24 pr. ~— Haven, Bill for repairing it, read, 11 May. Rejeéted, 3 Dec. ~~ Weavers, Bill for better Government of them, read, 14 ay. Beak Bill for uniting Two Parifhes there, read, * *, mitted, 18 Apr. Douglas, Sir Robert, Bill to naturalize him, read, 28 Feb. Com- mitted, 22 Mar. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 26. Pafled, 2 May. Drunkennejs, Bill for repreffing it, read, 14 Feb. Committed, 1 Mar. Reported, and to be ingroffed,22. Pafled,24 Apr. — Bill for repretling Drankennefs, and to reftrain the excef- five Price of Beer and Ale, read, * *. To fleep, 28 Feb. Duchy Lands. Vide King, and Lancajier. Dudley, Dame Alice, her Bill from the Lords, 7 Dec. Dungeon-neffe Light-houfe. Vide Light-houfes, and Sea-marks. Deskin, County, Bill to enable it to fend Members to Parlia- ment, read, * *, Committed, 6 Mar. Reported, and re-com- mitted, 14. Reported, eod. die. Debate, and Refolutions touching the Number of Members, eod. die. Bill to be ine grofled, eod. die. Paffed, 26 Apr. Dyer, Sir William, Bill to confirm his Sale of Lands, read, 8 Com- Mar. Dykes, Mr. a Patentee, and Accomplice with Sir G. Monperfon in the Gold Thread Patent, examined and committed, 3 Mar. Fowles, the other Patentee, tent for by the Serjeant, eod. die. To be kept in Cuftody, 5 Mar. Their Petition read, 6. To be heard by Counfel, eod. die. Examined at the Bar, eod. die. Motion concerning them, but no Order made, 20 Mar. 21° & 22° Jac.¥. Parl. 4. A. 1623, & 1624. D4 LE, Lady, her Cafe reported, from the Committee of Grievances, 8 May. Committee appointed to infpect the Eaft India Books relating thereto, eod. die. Certificate from the Committee, read, 22 May. Her Petition to be delivered to her without Prejudice, eod. die. Darcy, Lady, her Petition to be heard before the Committee for Courts of Juftice, 14 Apr. Petition, and Order, for Counfel, 19. Report, and Debate thereon, 7 May. Bill to fettle Jof, Glover, her Prefentee, in the Church of Sutton, and to re- fettle the Inheritance in Edw. Darcy, her Son, read, twice, and committed, eod. die. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 12. Paffed, 14. Sent to the Lords, 15. Davers, Lord. Vide Goteland. Debts, Bill for reftraining Abufes in levying them in the King’s Name, prefented, and read, 3 Mar. Committed, 24. Report- ed, and re-committed,6 Apr. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 12 May. Paffed, 15. — Bill to make the Eftates of attainted Perfons liable to the Payment of their Debts, read, 26 Feb. Committed, 10 Mar. Bill for better Payment of the Debts of Men in Prifon, read, 18 Mar. Rejected, 20 Apr. Denizens, not to fit in the Houfe, 10 Mar. Depopulation. Vide Land. Divinity Lectures. Vide Whetenhall. Dormer, Simon, a Recufant Schoolmafter, complained of, 28 Apr. Report touching him, ~ May. Declared mena 8 inue tinue a Schoolmafler, 20 May. Archbifhop of Canterbury to be acquainted therewith, eod. die. Dornix Weavers, Bill for advancing and better Government of their Trade, read, 16 Apr. Committed, 17. Dover Election, Report touching it, 24 Mar. Refolution con- cerning the Right of Election, eod. die. Election declared void, and new Writ ordered, cod. die. Drunkennefs, Bill to reprefs it, read, 25 Feb. Committed, 26. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 8 Mar. Paffed, 16. Duchy Lands. Vide King. Dudley, Dame Alice, Bill from the Lords, to enable her to affure the Manor of Killingworth to the Prince, 13 Mar. Read, eod. die. Committed, 23 Mar. Reported, and paffed, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sir D. Bill to naturalize him, read, 10 Aug. Committed, 11. Depopulation, Bill againft it, and Decay of Farms, &c. read, * *. Committed, 1 Aug. Dorfet, Earl of, his Bill from the Lords, 8 July. Read twice, and committed, eod. die. Reported, with Amendments, 8 Aug. Paffed, 9. 1° & 2°Car.I. Parl. 2. A. 1625, §& 1626. D ALE,.... Bill read, 1g Apr. Committed, 1 May. Debts, Bill to prevent Abufes in levying them in the Ring’s Name, read, 23 Feb. Committed, 28.—New Bill read, * *. Committed, 14 Mar. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 28. Bill for fpeedy Payment of Debts owing tothe King, read, 14 Mar. Bill to make the Eftates of attainted Perfons liable to the a of their Debts, read, 14 Mar. Committed, 9 ay. — Bill for Recovery of Debts againft Executors and Admi- niftrators, read, 21 Mar. Decrees, Bill for reverfing them, read, * *. Mar. Deligne, Sir D. Bill to naturalize him, read, 8 May. Committed, 9g. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 23. “i Digby, Lord, his Petition and Articles againft the Duke of Buckingham, read, 1 May. Avowed by him at the Bar, eod. die. Digges, Sir Dudley, Refolutions and Proceedings of the Houfe upon his Imprifonment by the —_ for Words {poken at a Conference touching the Duke of Buckingham, 12. 13. 15. 16.17.19.& 20 May. Vide Privileges. Difcipline, military, Vide Serjeant-majors. Divifions, of the Houfe, a Rule who are to go out thereon, 9 May. Vide Howe. Dormer, Simon, a popith Schoolmafier, Order for his attending the Committee for Religion, 6 Mar... Report touching him, 25. Difcharged, eod. die. Dorfet, Earl of, his Bill read, * *. Committed, 15 Feb. Re- ported, and to be ingroffed,10 Mar. Paffed, 18 Apr. Dorfet/hire EleXion, Report touching it, 11 Feb. Under-fheriff, and County Clerk, to attend the Committee, eod. die. The fending for the High Sheriff refpited, eod. die. Further Report, and Refolutions thereupon, 17 Feb. New Writ ordered, eod. die. Dunkirkers. Vide Grievances. Dyett, Mr. fequeftered for offenfive Words, 9 May. Reftored, 23. 3° § 4° Car. 1. Parl. 3. Sess. 1. A. 1627, & 1628. DEB TS of the King, Two Commiflions, touching them, to be brought in,.and feveral Perfons to attend, 13 June. Declaration. Vide Remonftrance. Deligne, Sir Daniel, Bill to naturalize him, read, 21 Apr. To be ingrofled, 7 May. Pafled, 16. Devonfhire, Earl of, Bill from the Lords, concerning his Inhe- ritance, &c.17 Apr. Read,ig. Committed, 21. Reported, with Amendments, and re-committed, 10 May. Reported, eod. die. Debate thereon adjourned, eod. die. Bill re-commit- ted, 19 May. Reported, with other Amendments, 2 June. Read Third time, eod. die. Debate upon it adjourned, 2 & 4 June. Bill pafled, 10. Divifion of the Houle. Vide Queftion. Draperies, new, Bill for better fearching and fealing them, read, 21 Mar. Committed, 1 Apr. Dyell, Sir Rabert. Vide Gray. Committed, 27 ne ts ETS TI pa ar 9 INDEX fo the First VoLuumMe. 4° Car.I. Parl. 3. Sess. 2. A. 1628. D AW ES, Mr. a Cuftomer, examined at the Bar, 19 Feb. “Deane, Roger, fent for by the Serjeant for ferving a Sub- poena upon Mr. Crompton, 27 Jan. Difcharged, upon Peti- tion, 3 Feb. 1° Edw. VY. Parl. 1. Sess.1. A. 1547. E GYPTIANS. Vide Vagrants. Exigents, and Proclamations, Bill for not Return of them, read, 9 & 12 Noy. 2° & 3° Edw. VI. Parl.1. Sess.2. A. 1548. ELS, and Salmons, Bill to continue the A&s againft de- fitroying them, read, 13 Mar. Efcheators, Bill touching Offices and Inquifitions taken before them, read, 26 Feb. & 6 Mar. Pafled, 7 Mar. Provifo thereto from the Lords, read,8 & 12. Patled, 13. Exeter, Bill for it, read, 3 Dec.—New Bill read, 14 Jan. & 5 Feb. Paffed, 15 Feb. 3° & 4° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sess. 3. 4.1549. E ATON and Winchefter Colleges, Bill for the Service to be faid there in Latin, rea ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reported,8 May. One of them to fleep, eod. die. The other to be ingrofled, eod. die. Pafled,g May. Sent to the Lords, 10. . Error, Writs of, Bill againft Delay of Juftice thereby, in Cafes of Trials by Verdict, read, 3 May. Committed, 6. Effex, Countets of, Bill from the Lords, for Affurance of her Jointure, 1 Mar. Read, 3. Committed, 13. Reported, * *. Paffed, 17&20 Mar. Seni to the Lords, 26. Excommunications, Bill for Reftraint of them, read, and rejected, 22 May. Executions, Bill from the Lords, for avoiding unneceflary Delays thereof, 10 Mar. Read,ig. Committed, 27. AdditionalCommit- tees, 8 May. Bill reported, and pafled, 9. Sent to the Lords, 10. Exeter, Provifo for it offered to the Bill of free Trade, 27 Feb. _ Extortioners, &c. Bill againft them, read, 8 Feb. Committed, 28. 4° & 5° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Sess. 3. A. 1606, § 1607. kee LESIASTICAL Courts. Vide Courts. Eleétions, and Returns, Committee appointed, 19 Nov. Report touching feveral Members promoted to Offices, and abroad in the King’s Service, and Proceedings thereupon, 22. Entries, forcible, Bill to amend the Act 8 H. VI. concerning them, read, 12 Feb. Committed, 18. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 5 Mar. Paffed, 9. Efcuage, Debate touching it, 3, 4, 5, & 6, Dec. Queftion about it to be propounded to the Lords, 15. Effex, William, Etq; Bill for Sale of Lands, for Payment of his Debts, read, 11 June. Committed,13. Counfel to be heard, eod. die. Bill reported, and to fleep, 22 June. Letter to be written by the Speaker to fome of the Committees, to treat with Mr. Effex’s Creditors, and a new Dill to be drawn againtt next Seffion, eod. die. Form of the Letter, eod. die. ~ Evelyn, John, Efq; Bill to enable him to fell Lands, read, 25 Nov. Committed, 26. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 20. Pafled, 2 Dec. Sent to the Lords, 10. : 7° & 8 Jac. I. Parl. 1. Sess. 4. A. 1609,,§ 1610. Ke CLESIASTICA L JuifdiGion. Vide Jurifdiétion. —--—_— Grievances. Vide Grievances. Edmonton Copyholders, Bill from the Lords, touching them, 13 Mar. Read,27. Committed, 2 Apr. Reported, * *. Pailed, 26 Apr. Sent to the Lords, 30. Eleétions, and Returns, additional Committess to the Committee named the preceding Seffion, 9 Feb. Report, touching Lord Walden, a Peer; Mr. Bowyer, appointed Clerk of the Parlia- ments; Mr. Bromley, a Baron of the Exchequer; Mr. Mat- thew, banifhed by Order of Council; Sir Geo. Sommers, made Governor of Virginia; and Mr. Haffard, incurably fick ; 14 Feb. Proceedings thereupon, eod. die.—Report touching one of the Members for Coventry, incurably fick, and Mr. Payne, fequeftered in a former Seflion, 18 Feb. Vide Rogerfon, and Payne.—New Sheriff to make Return of a Writ, the Sheriff to.whom it was direéted, dying before the Election, 20 Feb.—Complaint of the Election for Bridgenorth, 21 Feb. Vide Bridgenorth. Elringion, Mr. his Bill read, 5 & 29 Mar. Counfel to be heard, 29. Heard, and Bill committed, 2 Apr. Reported, and to be ingroffed,21 May. Pafled,* *. Sent to the Lords, 11 June. Entries, forcible, Bill againft them, read, 23 Feb. Committed, 24. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 7 Mar. Paffed, * *. Sent to the Lords, 13 Mar. Efjez, William, Efq; Bill for Sale of Lands, read, 15 Feb. Com- mitted, 16. Petition of Reymond Fitch againft it, and Counfel to be heard thereon, 26. Bill reported, 1 Mar. Counfel for Mr. Fitch heard, and Bill to be ingroffed, 2. Counfel to be heard for one Robinfon, upon his Petition, 3. Bill read Third time, and Counfel heard, 6. Debate thereupon, 6 & 7. Bill re-committed, 7. Reported, and paffed, 8. Sent to the Lords, 12. Returned, with Amendments, 28 Apr. Amendinents ~ referred to a Committee, 3 May. Reported, and agreed to, 4. Bill fent back to the Lords, 8. Efiates, or Tenures, Bill for avoiding Alterations thereof by rea- fon of Partitions and Townfhips, read, 20 Feb. Rejected, 22. 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Com- mitted, a — a SSS SSS Py > = a = —— EEE IFN DEX 00 the mitted, 19. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 11 June. Pafled, and fent to the Lords, 18. 12° Jac. I. Parl. 2. A. 1614. AST-GRINSTEAD Hofpital. Vide Dorfet. Ecclefiaftical Courts. Vide Courts and Fees. Eleétions, and Returns, Committee appointed, 8 Apr. Report touching the Eledtions for Northumberland, Y orkfhire, Cam- bridgefhire, Norfolk, and Ludlow, 9. Vide fingula—Com- plaint of the Election for Carmarthen, and Order thereupon, 12 Apr.—Anfwer of the Mayor of Lynne to an Objection . againft his Election, 19 Apr.—Committee to confider of the Power of the Houfe to give anOath concerning Eleétions, eod. die.—Report touching the Election for Stockbridge, 9 May. Vide Stockbridge. Motion for a Bill to regulate Elections, and Committee appointed to prepare it, 19 Apr. Entries, forcible, Bill againft them, prefented, and read, 20 Apr. Committed 31 May. cag Vide Sheriffs. very, William, Bill to reverfe a Decree in Chancery obtained by him againft Hen. Rofewell, Efg; read, 31 May. Exchequer, Bill of Grace concerning Pleadings there, prefented, 20 Apr. Excommunication, Motion to have the Bill againft it, in the laft Parliament, fearched out, 16 Apr.—Bill to reform Abufes of Excommunication, in divers Cafes, prefented, 20 Apr. Read 10 May. 18° & 19° Jac. I. Parl. 3. A. 1620, & 1621. AST-G RINST EA D, Hofpital. Vide Sackvyle College. Eaft India Company, Motion touching their Patent for carrying out Coin, and Committee of Grievances to confider of it, 6 Feb. Ecclefiaftical Courts. Vide Courts. Egerton, Mr. his Bill read, 17 Mar. Edward, Bill to reftore to him the Poffeffion of Lands taken from him by a Decree in Chancery, read, 30 Apr. Eleétions, and Returns, Committee appointed, 5 Feb. Report touching the Eleétion for Gatton, Malmefbury, and Leicetter- fhire,7. Vide fingulan—Report touching the Return of Lord Faulkland for Hertfordfhire, made a Baron of Scotland after his Eleétion, 7 Feb. Debate thereupon, and to be further con- fidered, eod. die.—Report touching a Clergyman returned for Morpeth, 7 Feb. Eleétion declared void, and a new Writ or- dered, 8.—Report touching the Return of the Attorney-gene- ral, 7 Feb. Order of the laft Parliament to fiand, and a new Writ ordered, 8.—Report touching the Ele&tion of Mr. Pel- ham for Grimfby, chofen while beyond the Seas, 7 Feb. De- bate thereon, and Matter re-committed, 8. Further Debate, 15. To be further confidered, 16.—Committee of Privileges to confider of a Bill for free Ele&tions, 8 Feb.—Counfel to be heard at the Committee, touching the Election for the City of Oxford, eod. die. Vide Oxford.—Burgefles returned in a double Return, to forbear theH oufe till the EleGtion determined, 10Feb, —Debate touching the Admiffion of Sir D. Digges and Mr. Abbot, elected while beyond the Seas, in the King’s Service, 15 Feb. Sworn and admitted, 16.—Counfel heard, touching the Election for Weftminfter, 26 Feb. Vide Weftminjter. Report touching the Election for Minehead, 3 Mar. Vide Minehead. -—touching the Election for Rochefter, 3 Mar.—touching the Election for Yorkfhire, 16 Mar. Vide York/hire.—-touching the Election for Sandwich, and Refolution thereupon, 22 Mar. —Election of the Mayor of Cambridge declared void, and a new Writ ordered, eod. die—Committee to confider of the Cafe of Pomfret and Ilchefter, difcontinued, 26 Mar. Vide Iichefter, and Pomfret.—The Election, and double Return, for Hindon, to be heard at the Committee, eod. die. Vide Hindon. —Report touching the Ele@ion for Pembroke, and Order thereupon, 18 May.—touching the Boroughs of Hertford, Wendover, Amerfham, and Marlow, difcontinued, eod. die. To be further confidered, eod. die. Report touching a Com- plaint in the Star-chamber concerning an Eletion, and Party to be fent for, eod. die. Report touching the Right of Eleétion for Sandwich, 22 Mar.—for Pembroke, 18 May. Bill, concerning Elections, to be prepared, 24 Mar. Prefented, 18 May. Read, 21 Noy. Committed, 28. Elizabeth, Queen. Vide Grants. Ellys, Mr. his Bill read, 20 Mar. Elwicke, Richard, Debate touching his Petition againft Lord Scrope, 1 June. Sent for by the Serjeant, to make it good, eod. die. Attends, and juftifies his Petition, 2 June. Debate touching his finding Sureties, eod. die. Charged to appear at the next Accels, eod. die. Englefeild’s Bill read, * *. Committed, 15 Mar. Equity, Courts of. Vide Courts. First VoLUME. oo Writs of, Bill touching Limitation thereof, read, 14 Feb, Exchequer, Clerks of, to attend Committee upon the Bill relating to Sheriffs Accounts, 15 Mar.—Committee to confider of all Abufes in the Exchequer, and to prepare Bills, 25 Apr. Executions, Bill to charge the Lands of Perfons dying therein, read, 28 May. Erecutors, and Adminiftrators, Bill for Recovery of Debts againft them, read,g May. 21° & 22° Jac. 1. Parl. 4. A. 1623, & 1624. EAR IT Hand Plumftead Marhhes, Bill for draining them, ~ yead, 2 Apr. Committed, 10. Reported, and to be in- groffed, 8 May. Earl-marfhal’s Court. Vide Heralds. Eajtland Company, their Patent to be brought in, 10 Mar. & 30 Apr. Petition of Grievance concerning it, read, and re-com- mitted, 26 May. Reported, and agreed to, eod. die. Eaft-retford Election, Report touching it, 28 May. Edwards, John, Bill to reverfe a Decree, made in the Court of Requetts, between him and his Son, read, 12 Apr. Committed, 16. Counfel afligned, 19. Bill reported, and to be ingroffed, 8 May. Pafled, 19. Egerton, Mr. his Bill read, 16 Apr. Committed, 27. Eleétions and Returns, Committee appointed, 23 Feb. Debate, and Refolution againft all, who come, having Voices, eod. die. Countfel to be heard, and all Petitions to be offered at the Com- mittee, cod. die.—NMotion about the Election for Chippenham to be confidered by the Committee, 25 Feb. Vide Chippenham.— Report touching the Eleéiion for Southwark, and Retfolution thereupon, 2 Mar. Agreement of the Committee, thata Perfon duly elected cannot relinquifh, reported, eod. die——Report touching the Eleétion for Blechingley, and Winchelfey, 3 Mar. Vide fingula.—for Cambridgethire, 5 Mar. Vide Cam- bridgefhire—Refolution, that Affidavits taken in any Court, concerning EleGtions or Returns, are not to be admitted in Evidence, eod. die—Report touching the Election of a Scottifh Man, not naturalized, 10 Mar. Vide Monmouth. —touching the Number of Petitions prefented to the Com- mittee, eod. die. Order againft receiving any more Peti- tions touching Ele@tions, eod. die. Petitions to be heard in Order, as delivered, eod. die —Eleétion of a Burgefs returned by a wrong Name, adjudged good, and Return to be amended, 12 Mar. To be fent down to the Bailiff for that Purpofe, 15. ~-Queftion about a double Return referred to the Committee, and both Parties to ftay out of the Houfe till the Cafe deter- mined, 22 Mar. Vide Pomfrett.—Report touching the Election for Stafford, and Order thereupon, eod. die—Committee im- powered to enjoin Delinquents to attend till the Report is made, 23 Mar.—Report touching the Elections for Arundel, Dover, and Norfolk, 24 Mar. Procee ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o a Petitioner to proceed the next Seflion, his Petition not be- ing heard for want of Time, eod. die. Right of Eleétion determined for Bliechingley, 22 Mar. —for Dover and Arundel, 24 Mar.—for Chippenham and Newcaftle under Line, g Apr.—for Pomfret, 28 May. Committee appointed to draw the Two Bills, concerning Elections, into One, 15 Mar. Bill to be prepared, 9 Apr. Engeham, Sir Edward, Bill for fettling and affuring the Manor of Goodnefton, and other Lands belonging to him, read, 2 Apr. Committed, 3. Bonds to be produced, 10. Bill reported, and to be ingroffed, 1 May. Pafled, 5. Etherington, Sir Richard. Vide Goteland. ; Exchequer, Motion for a Committee to examine Abufes therein, 24 Feb. Committee appointed, 26. All to have Voices, except Exchequer Men, 8 Mar. : Bill touching Pleadings in the Exchequer, read, 26 Feb. Vide -dlienations. ; Excommunication of Perfons not kneeling towards the Eaft, de- clared illegal, 7 May. INDEX @ the 1°Car.I. Parl.1. A. 1625. Ke CLESIASTICAL Perfons. Vide Clergy. Eleélions, Motion for limiting the Time for receiving Petitions concerning them, 21 June. Committee appointed, eod. die. Petitions touching the EleGtions for Yorkthire and Monmouth, prefented, and referred, eod. die. Vide fingula.— Petitions touching the Eleétions for Warwick and Wefimin- fier, prefented, and referred, eod. die. Committee impowered to hear Counfel, and fend for Records, eod. die. To confider of the Eleétion of a Perfon in Execution, before the Summons of Parliament, eod. die.—Opinions delivered, that a Perfon in Execution not eligible, 8 July. Equity, Courts of. Vide Courts, °& 2°Car.I. Parl,2. A. 1625, & 1626. Ly AST-G RINSTEAD, new Writ ordered for it, in the room of the Attorney-general, 10 Feb. Eaft India Company, Report, and Refolutidn, touching the Stay of their Ships by the Duke of Buckingham, 20 Apr. Mr. Brook’s Petition againft them, read, and referred to the Com- mittee for Grievances, 1 May. Ecclefiajtical Perfons. Vide Clergy. — Courts. Vide Courts. . Eleétions, Committee appointed, g Feb. Petitions touching Eleétions, to be delivered to the Committee, and heard in Priority, eod. die.—Petition concerning the Election for War- wick, prefented, and to be firft heard, cod. die. Order touching the Report, 8 May.—Members doubly returned to make their Election within a limited ‘Time, 9 Feb. Vide Members.— Motion touching the Election for Grampound, referred to the Committee, eod. die. Report, and Refolutions thereon, 17 Feb. —Motion touching the Eleétion of the Attorney-general, con- trary to the Order 12 Jac.g Feb. New Writ ordered, 10.— King’s Meflage touching the Ele@ion of Sir Edw. Coke, being Sheriff of Bucks, referred to the Committee, eod. die. Vide Coke.—Committee to coniider of the Cafe of Mr. Gifford, arrefted after his Election, but before the Date of the Return, eod. die. Vide Gifford—Report touching the Eleétion for Dorfetthire, 11 Feb. Vide Dorfet/fhire—Complaint of a corrupt Ele&ion for Bridport, 17 Feb. Vide Bridport—Com- mittee to confider of the Election of the Mayor of Bath for that City, 18 Feb.—Eleétion of a Scottifh Man, ante-natus, and not naturalized, declared void, eod. die.—Petitions touching Elections, to be prefented within a limited Time, eod. die.— Report touching the Eleétion for Oxford, 1 Mar. Vide Oxford. —for Ludgerfall, and Order thereon, 10 Mar.—for Newport, and Order thereupon, 17 Mar.—Petition againft the Sheriff of Leicefterfhire, in relation to the Election, 25 Mar. Vide Lei- cefterfhire. Motion about a Complaint agaift the Sheriff of Flint, touching that Election, and Time allowed by the Com- mittee, for his Attendance, fhortened by the Houfe, 5 May.— The Eleétion of the Chairman of the Committee coming in Queftion, another to be appointed in his room, 8 June. Bill, touching Elections, ordered to be read, 11 Feb. Read, 13. Committed, 2 Mar. Ellyott, Sir John, Motio ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- g Evils and Caufes, 25 Mar. 20, 21, 22. & 28, Apr. 1 & 2 May. Houfe to fit Forenoon and Afternoon, till this Bufinefs ended, 20 Apr. Sub-committee to fit, notwith- {ianding the fitting of the Houfe, eod. die. A feleét Committee of Twelve appcinted, to reduce the Matter into Form, 21 Apr. Impowered to fend for Witneffes, &c. and to examine an new Matter, 24. Divers Articles reported, and to be ingroffed, 6 May. Read, and agreed to,8. Vide plura fub Buckingham, Excommunication, Bill for Mitigation of the Sentence thereof, read, 10 Mar. Committed, 2 May. Executors, and Adminiftrators, Bill for Recovery of Debts againft them, read, 21 Mar. Exeter, Earl of, Bill to explain Two Provifoes in a Deed made by him, -_~ 5 May. Committed, 24. Von. I. Reported, and to be in- - First VoLtume. 3°§ 4 Car. I. Parl. 3. Sess.1. A. 1627, & 1628. k4 ST INDIA Company. Vide Warner. — Petition from the Eaft-India Company, read, and referred to the Committee for Trade, 7 May. ~ Ecclefiaftical Courts. Vide Courts. 7 Eleétions, Petitions concerning them, to be prefented within Four= teen Days, 20 Mar. Committee of Elections appointed, eod. die. Queftions touching Elections to be firft heard, where any Members wanting, not being returned, eod. die.—Elections controverted. Vide Bojton, Bridport, Colchejier, Cornwall, Coventry, Exeter, Gatton, Lewes, Michell, Newport, and York, —Report touching the Boroughs of Weobley and Milborne Port, difcontinued, 1 May. Refolutions for reftoring them, and Writs for Election of Burgefles ordered, eod. die. Report touching the Right of Election for Colchefter, 28 Mar.--Right of Election for Bridport determined, 12 Apr.— for Bofton, 8 May.—for Warwick, 31 May. Bill to regulate Eledtions, read, 19 Apr. Rejected, 22. Eleéors, refufing to declare their Names to the Sheriff, not dif- abled, 17 Apr. Epworth Tenants, Order touching the hearing of their Caufe be- fore the Committee for Grievances, 3 June. Efiofte, John, Efg; Bill to reverfe a Decree againft him in the ourt of Wards, read, 4 June. Exchangers, to bring in their Patent, 17 May. read, and referred to a Committee, 13 June. Report, 23. Patent to be confidered, eod. die. Voted a Grievance, eod die. Excommunication, Bill for Mitigation of the Sentence thereof, read, 3 Apr. Committed, 14. Exeter Election, and double Return, Report, and Refolution con- cerning it, 26 Mar. Their Petition 4° Car. I. Parl. 3. Sess. 2. A. 1628. Ee CLESIASTICAL Courts. Vide Courts. Eleétions, former Committee to ftand, 20 Jan. Petitions touching Eleétions, to be prefented in Fourteen Days, eod. die. Motion for a new Eledtion, in the room of one of the Mem- bers chofen Mayor, over-ruled, eod. die. Legality of the Elec- tion of a Member to ferve for a City, being Sheriff of a County, to be debated in the Houfe, 5 Feb. Report touching a Writ iffued for a new Eleétion, by Direction of the Lord Keeper, in Time of Prorogation, 9 Feb. Vide Writs. Eppefley, Sit John, not to anfwer to a Petition preferred againft him at the Lords, and Petitioner to be fent for,29 Jan. Com- mittee appointed to examine this Matter, 14 Feb. Efiofte, John, Efq; Bill to reverfe a Decree againft him in the Court of Wards, read, 29 Jan. Committed, 19 Feb. Exeter, Magiftrates of, Complaint againtt them, for not paying one of their Burgeffles his Wages, referred to Committee of Privileges, 30 Jan. Mayor to be fent for, by the Speaker’s Letter, eod. die. Aldermen and Town-clerk to attend the Committee, 5 Feb. 1° Edw. VI. Parl.1. Sess. 1. A. 1547. rae S, Bill for their Leafes, read, 10, 14. & 17, ec. Felonies. Vide Treafons. Fines, and Recoveries, Bill for Averment therein, read, 14 Nov. Fifhing, in Iceland and Scotland, Bill for it, read, 2 Dec. Frizes, and Cottons, Bill for making them in Wales, read, 10 Nov. 14 & 19 Dec. Fullers, in Gloucefter, Wilts, and Somerfet, Bill relating to them, read, 9 Nov. " 2°& 3° Edw. VI. Parl.1. Sess. 2. A. 1548. Fr E-FARM S, in Cities and Towns, Bill for Releafe of — for Three Years, read, 1 Mar. Committed, 4. Paff- ed, 8. Fines, and Recoveries, Bill, for Ufes upon them, read, 15 & 24 J ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- impofed by Parliament, Committee appointed to fearch Precedents thereof, 8 May. Fi/h, Bill for Prefervation of the Fry and Brood thereof, read, 1 May. Committed, 14. Bill to encourage the Seamen of England to take Fith, read, 2 June. Committed, 20. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 22. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, go. ——v-—- Bill to avoid Abules in felling of Fifh, read, 16 June. Vide Pilchards. Fifhing, in Devon and Cornwall, &c. Bill for better Prefervation thereof, read, 21 May. Committed, 5 June. Reported, and , to be ingroffed, 9. Paffed, * *. Sent to the Lords, 14 June. Fleet, Warden of. Vide Shirley. 3°& 4° Jac.1. Parl. 1. Sess. 2. A. 1605, & 1606. F AM E, of noble and worthy Perfons, Bill, for continuance thereof, prefented, and read, 22 May. Fees, Lo — in Courts of Record, Bill for fettling them, read, OL. First Votume. 25 Jan. Counfel ordered to be heard, 29. Heard, and Bill committed, 14 Feb. Reported, and to fleep, 7 Mar—New Bill, to rane | Abufes in Fees, to be drawn, 10 Mar. Pre- fented, 13. Read, 25 Mar. Another Bill broughtin, 28 Apr. Read, 30. Committed, 6 May. Reported, and to fleep, 8. Felons, and other Malefactors, Bill for Eafe of the Country in con- veying them to Gaol, read, 21 Mar. Committed, 1 Apr. Re — and to be ingroffed, 9. Paffed, 26, Sent to the Lords, 20. Fenns, in the Ifle of Ely, Bil! for draining them, read, 1$ Feb. Committed, 4 Mar. Reported, and to fleep, 26 Apr.—New Bill read, 10 Apr. Committed, 15. Counfel to be heard, 2 May. Heard,6. Bill re-committed, eod. die. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 8 May. Rejected, 12.—Another Bill read, **, Committed, 21 May. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 23. Bill from the Lords, for avoiding Suits about the Fenns, 20 May. Read, eod. die. Commtitted,21 May. Reported, with Amendments, 23. Dathed, 24. Fewel, Bill for Affize thereof, prefented, 27 Mar. Read, 2 Apr. Committed, 8. Fines, and Amerciaments, of Jurors. Vide Grievances. ee touching them, offered to the Bill of Sabaoth, 13 eb. Fihing, and Navigation, Bill for better Maintenance thereof in Devon and Cornwall, read, 14 Feb. Bill for Reformation of unlawful Fifhing, read, 1 Apr. Committed, 3. Reported, and to be ingroffed, **. Read Third time, and re-committed, 17 Apr. Order touching it, 1 May. Reported, and pafled,2. Sent to the Lords, 5. Forefiallers, &c. Bill againft them, prefented, 13 Mar. Read, 19. Committed, 18 Apr. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 5 May. Read theThird time,7. Reéjeced, 8. Forgeries, Bill to prevent them, read, and rejected, 25 Feb. Foulys, Sir David, Bill from the Lords, for naturalizing him, and to confirm Letters Patents,15 Apr. Read,16. Committed, 18. Reported, and pafled, and fent to the Lords, 28. Fowler, Mary, Bill for barring her of her Thirds, and Jointure, read, 16 May. Committed, 17. ’ 4 & 5° Jac. I. Parl.i. Sess. 3. A. 1606, & 1607. FA ME, of worthy Perfons, Bill for continuing it, read, 25 Nov. Committed, 26. Additional Committees, 18 Feb. Fee paid the Clerk by Members, on Leave of Abfence, 12 Mar. Fees to be paid for a Bill for mending Roads, 27 June. Fenns, in the Ifle of Ely, Bill to drain them, read, 2 Feb. Coun- fel to be heard, 21 & 27 Apr. 1.6.& 7, May. Bill read a Se- cond time, 27 Apr. Counfel heard, and Bill committed, 9 May.—New Bill read, 8 June. Committed, 9. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 11. Paffed, 16. Sent to the Lords, 22. Finch, Thomas, a Member’s Servant, Complaint of his being arrefted, and Warrant for a Habeas Corpus for him ordered, 10 Feb. Form of the Warrant, eod. die. Form of the Writ, and Return, 13 Feb. Parties heard, and Finch to have Privi- lege, eod. die. Foreign Countries. Vide Countries. Fruiterers of London, Bill to reftrain them from felling Fruit on Sundays, read, 30 Mar. Rejected, 8 May. "7° § 8° Jac. I. Parl. 1. Sess. 4. A. 1609, & 1610. E ES of Officers in Courts, Bill ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by the Serjeant, and deli- vered to the Ufher of the Black Rod, eod. die. Forejialling, Billto explain an A&, 5 Ed. VI. touching it, read, and rejected, 12 Mar. Formedons in the Defcender, Bill concerning Limitation of them, read, 14 Feb. Fowles, Mr. Vide Dykes. First VoLuMe. French Company. Vide Patents. ' Fregford, Prebend, Bill for annexing it to the Vicarage of St. Mary’s in Litchfield, read, 3 May. Committed, 29. Fryth, Thomas, Bill for Sale of Lands, read, 18 Apr. Fuller, Mr. Vide Hall. Fullers Earth. Vide Wool. 21°& 22° Jac. I. Parl. 4. A. 1623, & 1624. "A § T, general, King to be moved for it, and his Anfwer re. ported, 23 Feb. Fees, to be taken in Cities and Towns-corporate, Bill concerning them, read, 15 Apr. Committed, 17. Reported, and to be in- grofled,22 May. Read the Third time, and Debate thereon adjourned, 25. : ' Felt-makers, Company, Complaint of the Imprifonment of the Matter, coming to the Houfe, to be examined by the Committee for Courts of Juftice, 14 Apr. Vide Privileges.—Report touch- ing their Petition prefented to the faid Committee, and rejected, 14 Apr.—Bill for their Relief, againft a Decree in Chancery, read, 29 Apr. Committed, 30. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 12 May. Paffed, 19. Fermor, James. Vide Ward. Fines, and Recoveries, Bill againft levying them, in other Mens Names, read, 3 Mar. Committed, 3 Apr. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 6. Paffed, 7. Sent from the Lords, with Amend- ments, 25 May. Amendments agreed to, 28. Fifh. Vide Heron, Henry. Fifher, Sir Edward, Bill to eftablifh his Eftate, read, 13 Apr. Committed, 19. : Fifhing, in America, Bill for free Liberty thereof, prefented, 24 Feb. Read, 25. Committed, 15 Mar. Reported, and re- committed, :0 Apr. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 28. Read the Third time, 29. Pailed, 3 May. Report touching Sir F. Gorge’s Patent for Reftraint of fifhing in New England, and Refolutions thereupon, 17 Mar. Petition of Grievance touching it, read, and allowed, 25 May. Fleet, Warden of, to bring a Prifoner to the Bar, 12 Apr. Exa- mined, touching him, 13. To bring him to a Committee, eod. die.—Petition of the Prifoners in the Fleet, prefented, and Committee appointed to examine the Abufes complained of, 17 Apr. Report, 26 May. Order of Council, concerning the Fleet, to be obferved till the next Seffion, 28. Fowles, Matthias, ordered into Cuftody for procuring the Patent of Gold-wire-drawers, 3 Apr. Warden of the Fleet to attend with him, 12. His Petition read, 13. Examined at the Bar, and Committee appointed to confider of his Offence, and Pu- nifhment, eod. die. Warden to bring bim to the Committee, eod, die. Order for the Report, 22 May. Free-fchools. Vide Hofpitals. Fullers Earth. Vide Brewer, and Wool. 1° Car.I. Parl. 1. A. 1625. FrAr MS. Vide Depopulation. Faji, to be kept by the Houfe, and Preachers apointed, 21 June. King to be petitioned for a general Faft, and Committee appointed to draw it, eod. die. Reported, and agreed to, and Conference to be defired with the Lords about it, 22 June. Complaint of Negle& in not fending Books, for the Faft, to feverel Places, and a Meflage to the Archbifhop of Canter- bury thereupon, 2 Aug. Fees, Warrant ordered for attaching a Perfon for not paying them for a Bill, 11 July. Fleet Prifon, Conference defired by the Lords, touching a Petition of the Prifoners for a Habeas Corpus, upon account of the Plague, 7 July. Held, and reported, 9. Debate and Meflage to the Lords thereupon, eod. die. Foreman, Mr. charged at the Bar with certain Words concerning the Bill againft Swearing, 4 July. Witneffes examined againtt him, eod. die. To remain in Cuftody, eod. die. 1°&2°Car.I. Parl. 2. A. 1625, & 1626. FAME, common, Queftion, whether it be a Ground for the Houfe to proceed upon, ordered to be confidered, 21 Apr. Debate, and Refolution thereupon, 22. Farwell, Mr. Bill for Sale of the Manor of Barrington, and other Lands, read, 24 Feb. Committed, 27. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 4 Mar. Pafled, 7. : Faft, general, Committee appointed to draw up Reatons for it, 29 Apr. Report,g June, King to be petitioned to command it, cod. die. Committee appointed to draw the Petition, and Rea- fows to be offered to the Lords at a Conference, eod. die. Feltwell Manors, Bill for Confirmation of certain Articles, and a Decree, touching them, read, 4 May. Committed, 6. Fenns, Bill for draining them, read, 3 May. Finch, Sir Heneage, chofen Speaker, * Feb. Vide Speaker. Fisher, Sir Edward, his Bill read, * *. Committed, 23 Mar. Fifhing, INDEX © the First VouumMe. Fifhing.. Vide Grievances, and Shipping. Flint Ele&ion, Complaint againft the High Sheriff in relation thereto, 5 May. Sheriff ordered to attend, eod. die. France, Report, trom the Committee of Grievances, touching the Seizure of Englifh Ships and Goods there, 18 Feb. To be confidered of by the Houle, eod. die. Committee appointed to prepare it, eod. die. Report touching the Reafons of the Sei- zure, 22 Feb. Lieutenant of the Tower to be fent for, eod. die. Examined, 23 Feb. Lieutenant of Dover Cattle interro- gated, in his Place, touching the Stay of the Peter of New- haven, cod.die. committee to confider of the Proceedings of the Admiralty therein, eod. die. Report, 1 Mar. Petition of French Merchants read, eod. die. Further Report, eod. die. Lieute- nant of the Tower, and Marfhal of the Admiralty, to attend, eod. die. Committee to fet down the Queftions to be aiked them, eod. die. Duke of Buckingham to be defired to give Sa- tisfaction touching the Stay of the Peter, eod. die. Vide Buck- ingham. Lieutenant examined, 2 Mar. Marfhal, and others, examined, cod. die. Committee for Relief of the French Mer- chants to meet, and perfeét the Report, 6 Mar. Another Peti- tion of the Merchants, complaining of the continuance of the Embargo in France, prefented, and referred to a Committee, 16. Report, 17. Form of a Petition to the King for their Relief, read, and re-commiitted, eod. die. Conference to be de- fired with the Lords, touching it, and a Committee appointed to prepare the Heads of it, eod. die. Power of the Committee en- larged, 18 Mar. Report of further Proceedings of the French againft Englifh Ships, 17 Apr. A State of the Negotiations with France, opened to the Houfe by the King’s Command, 18. Information given, of a new Stay of Englifh Ships in France, 29. Petition of Merchants, about the continuance of the Embargo, read, and to be confidered, 1 June. Free-fchools. Vide Hofpitals. Freyford, Prebend, Biil for annexing it to the Vicarage of St. Mary’s in Litchfield, read, 14 Feb. Commiited,18. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 7 Mar. Fuji, Richard, Bill for Sale of his Lands, read, 5 May. ted, 1 June. Commit- 3° & 4° Car.I. Parl. 3. Sess. 1. A. 1627, & 1628. FAS T’, Committee to draw a Petition to the King for it, 20 Mar. Report, 21. Conference with the Lords thereupon, held, and reported, eod. die. Commiitee of both Houfes to at- tend the King with the Petition, 22 Mar. Report touching the King’s An{wer, 24. Conference defired by the Lords, to com- municate it, held, and reported, eod.die. Preachers at the Fatt appointed, eod. die. Lord Mayor to be moved to order the Shops to be fhut that Day, eod. die. Thanks retuined to the Ring, for his Anfwer, cod. die. Collection tu be made at the Fast, 3 Apr. Sum reported, and dittributed, 16. Finch, Sir John, chofen Speaker, 17 Mar. Vide Speaker. Fifhing Voyages. Vide Shipping. Forfeitures, Bill againft begging them before Altainder, read, 21 Mar. Committed, 14 May. Fornication. Vide Adultery. Freeze, James, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize him, 26 Apr. Read, 28. Committed, 7 May. Reported, 13. Patled, 19. 4° Car. I. A. 1628. "A ST, Committee to draw a Petition to the King for it, 26 Jan. Report, 27. Conference with the Lords thereupon, held, and reported, eod. die. Petilion to be ingrofled, and Committee of both Houfes to attend the King therewith, eod. die. Read, and fent to the Lords, 28 Jan. King’s An{wer re- ported, 30. Report touching the Time appointed for the Faft, 5 Feb. Preachers thereat appointed, 6. Felton, Mr. his Petitions read, and referred to the Committee of Grievances, 17 & 23 Feb. , Fleming, John, Bill to fell Lands, read, 19 Feb. Committed, 23. Flint Ele&ion, Report touching a Writ iffued for it by Direétion of the Lord Keeper, 9 Feb. Forfeitures, Bill againft begging them before Attainder, read, 21 Jan, Committed, 23. 1° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sess. 1. GUIL FORD, Bill for it, read, 17 Dec. 2° & 3° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sess.2. A. 1548. G4 VELKIND Lands, in Kent, Bill touching them, read, 21 & 25 Feb. Pafled, 26. Parl. 3. Sess. 2. A. 1547. 3° & 4° Edw. VI. Parl.1. Sess.3. A. 1549. f LAZIERS, in London, Bill relating to them, yead 22 & . 30 a Pafled, 7 Dec. i @) Ie e 5° & 6 Edw. VI. Parl.1. Sess. 4. A. 1551; & 1552. ty IGG-MILLS, Bill from the Lords, to avoid them, 5 Mar. Read, 7&17. Pafled, 18. Gold, and Silver, Bill from the Lords, touching Exchange there- of, 4 Feb. Read, 5 & 8. Pafled, 11. — Bill for the Paffage from thence to London, read, 24 eb. 7° Edw. VI. Parl. 2. A. 1552, § 1553: G AT ESIDE, Town of, Bill from the Lords, for annexing it to Newcafile, read, 25 & 27 Mar. Paffed, 29; 1° Mar. 1. Parl. i. Sess. 2. A. 1553: G4 OLS, Bill to continue the Act for repairing them, read, 20 Nov. To be ingroffed, 23. Paffed, 24. Grey, Lady Jane, Bill touching Writings made in her Time, read, 3 & 6 Nov. To be ingroffed, 9.—Bill from the Lords, touching the fame, read, 27 & 30 Nov. Paffed, 4 Dec. 1° Mar. 1. Parl. 2. A. 1554. GAMING-HOUSES, Bill to avoid them, read, 19 Apr. Committed, 26.—Bill to avoid Licences for them, read; 1 May. To be ingroffed, 2. Pafled, 4. Gigg-mills, Bill for reftoring them,read, 13 & 18 Apr. ted, 26. Glamorganfhire, Bill for avoiding Sea-fands therein, read, 30 Apr. To be ingrofled, 1 May. Paffed, 4. Glafion, Bill to make it the Shire Town of Somerfethhire, read, 27 Apr. Committed, 1 May. Gloucefier Road. Vide Brijiol. 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Vide Dicing-houses. Vaca- 1° Eliz, Parl. 1. A, 1558, & 1559. Ae RG RAVE, Sir Thomas, chofen Speaker, 25 Jan. Vide Speaker. Gates, Sig. Henne. Bill from the Lords, for his Reftitution, 24 Feb., Read, 27 Feb. & 2 Mar. Pafled, 2 Mar. Gloucefter, Under-theriff of, Bill to continue him in Office, as in London, read, 4 Mar. Grey, Lord, Bill from the Lords, for his Reftitution, read, 27 Feb. &1 Mar. Pafled, 2 Mar. 5° Eliz. Parl. 2. Sess.1. A. 1562, & 1563. AME. Vide Fifh. Gaols, Biil from the Lords, to revive the A& 23 H. VIII. for making and repairing them, 29 Mar. Read, 29 & go. Committed, 8 Apr. Provifo to it twice read, eod. die. Bill and Provifo paffed, 9 Apr. Gifts, made by Perfons within Eight Days before their Death, Bill to make them void, read, 4 Mar. Committed, 5, Bill to avoid fraudulent Gifts, read, 16 Mar. To be in- grofled, 26. Vacated, 5 Apr. Gigg-mills, Bill to permit them in fome parts of Devon, read, 29 Jan.—New Bill read, 6 Feb. To be ingroffed,22. Dathed, 26. Bill to revive the Statute for putting down Gigg-mills, read, and committed, 3 Feb. Guilford School, Bill relating thereto, read, 11 Feb. 6 & 25 Mar. Paffed, 30 Mar. 8° & 9° Eliz. Parl.2. Sess. 2. A. 1566. G ARDYNER, Mr. a Member, imprifoned, defires Privi- lege, 8 Oct. Releafed by the Lord Keeper, upon Condition of furrendering himfelf at the End of the Parliament, 9. Gloucefter Hofpital, Bill to confirm Letters Patents thereto, read, 23 O&. Committed, 29. Pafled, 7 Nov. 13° Eliz. Parl.3. A. 1571. AINSBOROUGH. Vide Laughton. Game. Vide Pheafants. Gifts, and Conveyances, fraudulent, Bill againft them, read, 10 Apr. Committed, 11. Committees added, and Time of their meeting enlarged, eod. die.—Bill from the Lords, to the like Purport, 1 May. Read, 2 & 11. Pafled, 16.—Bill from the Lords, to prevent fraudulent Gifts to defeat Dilapi- dations, 19 May. Read, 21 & 22. Paffed, 23. Grievances, and Petitions, Committee named for them, 7 Apr. “ Motion INDEX 0 the Motion for an Addition to the Committee, and Notes, of the Motions made, delivered in, 10 Apr. 14° Eliz. (42 TS, fraudulent. Vide Conveyances- Grevill, Lodwike, Efq; to attend, 19 May. Parl. 4. Sess. 1. A. 1572. 18° Eliz. Parl. 4. Sess. 2. G4 ME. Vide Pheafanis. Gatefide, Bill from the Lords, for annexing it to Newcafile, read, 13 Mar. Gifts, fraudulent. Vide Rebels. Goldjmiths, Bill touching them, read, 21 Feb.—New Bill read, 29 Feb.—Another Bill twice read, and to be ingrofled, 5 Mar. Paffed, 6.—Bill from the Lords, to the fame Purpote, 12 Mar. Read, eod. die. Committed, and Counfel to be heard, 13 Mar. Pafled, 14. Grey, Lady, Bill to naturalize her, read, 25 & 28 Feb. Patfled, 28. A, 1575. 23° Eliz. Parl. 4. Sess. 3. ’ AME. Vide Pheafants. Gavelkind Lands. Vide Exeter. Glafs-houfes, Bill touching them, brought in, 21 Feb. Grefham, Sir Thomas, Bill for Relief of his Creditors, read, 1 Feb. Committed, and Counfel to be heard, 20.—New Bil read, 8 Mar. Committed, 9. To be ingrofled,10. Pafled, 13. A, 1580. 1° & 2° Jac. I. Parl. 1. Sess. 1. A. 1603, & 1604. (> AME. Vide Guns. Glover, Thomas, and others, Bill from the Lords, to natu- ralize them, 15 May. Read, 18. Committed, 21. Reported, 22. Pafled, * *. Goodwin, Sir Francis. Vide Bucks Election. Gordon, John, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize him, and his Family, 7 June. Read, 8. Committed,11. Reported, 14. Paffed, 15. Sent to the Lords, 28. Government, ecclefiaftical, Bill for due Execution thereof, read, 16 June. Committed, 10. Grys, Chriftopher, Bill to affure Lands, §c. read, 19 Apr. Com- mitted, 15 May. —-— William, Bill for Performance of a Decree in Chancery between him and Cotterell, read, 17 Apr. Committed, 8 May, Reported, * *. Read the ‘Third time, and Counfel ordered, 15 June. Counfel heard, and Bill re-committed, 18. Report- ed, and pafled, 2 July. Guns, Bill for due Execution of former Statutes touching fhoot- ing therein, read, 19 Apr. Committed, 25. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 10 May. Dafhed, 19.— New Bill read, 26 May. Committed, 30. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 8 June. Paf- fed, and fent to the Lords, 9. 3° & 4° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Sess. 2. 4. 1605, & 1606. ODFREY, Daniel, Bill to naturalize him, read, 28 Jan. Committed, 29. Reported, * *. Pafled,12 Mar. Sent to the Lords, 12. Godjcall, Joas, Bill to naturalize him, read, 4 Mar. Government, ecclefiaftical, Bill for the due Execution thereof, read, * *. Committed, 25 Feb. To fleep, and new Bill read, 26 Mar. Committed, 1 Apr. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 12. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 5 May. Grants. Vide Corporations. Green Wax Patent. Vide Grievances. Grievances, Motion for the Committee for Subfidy to confider of them, 11 Feb. Committee to fit thereon, 12. Articles deli- vered in,15 Mar. Re-committed,17. Motion touching them, 27. Reported,7 Apr. Articles touching Ordnance, Licences for Wines, Pre-emption of Tin, and Logwood, agreed, 9. Counfel to be heard upon the Article touching an Impofition upon Currants, eod. die. Heard,and Article agreed to, 11 Apr. Counfel to be heard upon the Article touching the D. of Le- neux’s Patent of Alnage of new Draperies, 9. Heard, and Pa- tent voted a Grievance, 16, Article touching Lord Danvers’ Patent of Fines and Amerciaments, read, 9. Article touching an Impofition upon Serges, and other Commodities, read, cod. die. Officers of the Cuftoms heard thereon, 10 May. Adjudged a Grievance, eod. die. Article, touching the Green Wax Pa- tent, debated, and to be amended, g Apr. Further Debate, and Article agreed to,15. Debate touching Sir H. Bronkard’s Patent of Amerciaments of Jurors, and Committee to con- fider of it, 9. Counfel to be heard thereon, 15. Article, touching York, difagreed to, 16.—touching Mutter-matters, agreed to, eod.die. Debate touching Lord Hertford'’s Proceed- ings, in relation thereto, 10 May. Counfel to be heard upon Sir Edw. Hobbye’s Patent for jobbing of Wool, 14 Apr. First VoLuME. Heard, and Patent refolved not to be a Grievance, 1 May. Countel to be heard, upon the Article touching Salt-petre, 16, 26. & 30, Apr. Debate thereupon, 3 May. Counfel to be heard upon the Grievance complained of againfi Mr. Typper, 16 Apr. Vide T'ypper. Committee appointed to frame the Grievances into a Petition, 18 Apr. Preamble read, and to be ingrofled, 6 May. Grievances read, and to be ingroffed, 10. To be prefented to the King, 13. Committee appointed to attend him, 14. His Anfwer reported, 15. Articles, touching ecclefiattical Grievances, delivered in, 15 Mar. Debate upon the Article touching deprived Minifters, eod. die. Article, touching Two High Commiflions, debated, and re-committed, 17 Mar. Report, and Conference defired with the Lords, touching thefe Grievances, 5 Apr. Metlage from the Lords, defiring more Particulars; eod. die. Heads agreed upon to be delivered, eod. die. Meflage from the Lords, touching the Time of the Conference, and Anfwer, 8 Apr. Committee to confer, 10. Report, 29. Another Conference defired with the Lords thereupon, and agreed to,1 May, Re- ported, 3. Another Conference to be held thereon, 8. Re- ported, 13. Grievances to be prefented to the King, and Committee appointed to frame the heads, eod. die. King’s Anfwer reported, 16 May. Grys, William, Bill for Execution of a Decree between him and Robert Cottrell, read, 8 Feb. Committed,17. Reported, and Counfel to be heard, 25. Heard, 27. Bill re-committed, and Countel ordered to be heard, eod. die. Reported, and to be in- grofled, * *. Pafled,2i Mar. Sentto the Lords, 26. Returned, with Amendments, 10 May. Amendments agreed to, 13. Gunpowder Treafon. Vide Plot, and Attainder. Guns, Bill for Liberty of fhooting in them within Five Miles of the Sea-coaft, read, 19 Feb. Rejected, 5 Mar. 4° & 5° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. A. 1606, & 1607. OLD, and Silver, Bill to reftrain the Exportation thereof, 16 May. Vide Countries, foreign. Good, John, Efq. Bill from the Lords, to enable him to convey Lands to the King, 30 June. Read twice, and committed, 1 July. Reported, and pafled, * *. Grievances, King’s Anfwer to the Petition relating thereto, pree fented the preceding Seffion, read, 19 Nov. Sess. 3. 7° & 8 Jac. I. Parl. 1. Sess. 4. A. 1609, &§ 1610. G4 ME, Committee for Prefervation thereof, appointed, 22 Mar. Vide Deer, and Hawking. . Gaols, Bill for building them, read, 14 Feb. Committed, 16. Gib, Henry, Bill to naturalize him, read, 12 June. Committed, 15. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 16. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 20. Gold-end-men, Bill for Explanation of the Statute againft them, read, 27 Mar. Committed, 21 Apr. Reported, and to be in- grofled, 15 June. Rejected, 14 July. Green-cloth, Officers of, their Demands concernin gPre-emption of Coals, Wood, &c. read, 14 July. Report concerning them, 16. Greenfmith, Janikin, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize her, 13, Mar. Read, * *. Committed, reported, and pafled, 2 Apr. Sent to the Lords, 16. Grievances, Grand Committee appointed, 15 Feb. Debate, and, Refolution about proceeding upon them, 1g. Report touching the Proceedings of the Committee, in relation thereto, 21. Matters referred to be confidered, 23. Report touching Sir Steph. Prodior’s Commiffion for executing penal Laws, 24. Vide Proétor.—touching Stone’s Commiftion for Purveyance of Wood and Coal, eod. die. Vide Stone—touching Dr. Cowell’s Interpreter, eod. die. Vide Cowell_—Mation for a Courfe to ee the preferring of Grievances, like Pafquils, 27 Mar.— eport touching an Impofition upon Newcaftle Coal, 28 Mar. Vide Sea-coal.—touching the Order about prefenting the Griev- ances, 30 Mar. Further Proceedings of the Committee re- ported, 18 —_ Report touching ecelefiafiical Grievances, 23 & 27 Apr. ebates and Proceedings thereon, 23, 24, & 25, Apr. 7 May. Report touching Impofitions, 25 Apr. Vide Im- pofitions.—touching the Jurifdiction over Wales, 27 Apr. Vide Wales.—-touching Proclamations, 30 Apr. Vide Preclamations. —touching Fees of Officers, 10 May. To be fufpended, 12.—~ Report touching a new Tax upon Ale-houfes, Licences for Wines, and fealing of new Draperies, 10 May. To be pres fented as Grievances, 12.—Form of a Petition touching eccle- fiaftical Grievances, reported, and agreed to, 11. Committee to fort the Grievances, and pen a Preamble to the Petition con- cerning them, eod. die. Further Report, and feveral Bills deli- vered in,g June. Strangers preferring any Grievance, to ftand by at the reading, 20. Preamble to the Grievances reported, and re-committed, 22. Four Grievances to be ingrofled, eod. die. Preamble read, and to be ingrofled, 4 July, Grievances not perfected, re-committed, eod. die. Further Report, 5 July. King to be attended with the Grievances, 6. Committee named c9 : es te INDEX @ the First Vouvume. to deliver them, 7. Report of the Delivery of them, and Houfe to attend the King thereupon, 9. Heads of the Grievances reported, and Committee appointed to confider of the Manner of entering them, 10. Kiug’s Anfwer read, and explained by himfelf, 23. Guns, Bill about fhooting in them, read, and rejected, 28 June. 12° Jac. 1. Parl. 2. A. 1614. G LASS Patent, Report touching it, 20 Apr. To be brought to the Committee tor Grievances, eod. die. Further Report touching it, 4 May. Voted a Monopoly, and to be brought to the Houle, eod. die. Delivered in, with a Proteftation, 6 May. Gold, and Silver, Bill from the Lords, againft wafteful Confump- tion thereof, 16 Apr. Read, eod. die. Committed, 5 May. Reported, with an Addition, 16. Pafled, 23. Gofilett, Bill read, 25 May. Grievances, Committee of the whole Houfe to fit for receiving Petitions concerning them, 8 Apr. Report touching the Lofs of the Roll of Grievances 7 & 8 Jac. 15 Apr.—touching the Manner of preferring Petitions of Grievance, eod. die. To be further confidered, cod. die. Report, and Order thereupon, 20 Apr.—Report touching the Glafs Patent, eod. die. Vide Glajs. —touching the French Company’s Patent, eod. die. Vide Patents.—touching Impofitions, 5 May. Vide Lmpofitions.— Thurfdays and Saturdays added to the Day appointed for fitting of the Committee, 6 May.—Report touching the King’s An- fwer to the old Grievances, and the Four Shires, and Orders thereupon, 20 May. Order about ithe Time of the fitting of the Committee, cod. die. Impowered to fend for the Lawyers to aflift them, eod. die—Motion for a Confideration of four ecclefiaftical Grievances, eod. die. 18° & 19° Jac. I. Parl. 3. A. 1620, § 1521. G4 M E, Bill for Prefervation thereof, read, 28 Apr. Gaol-deliveries, Bill for holding them in the chief Towns, read, 2 June. : Gardeners, of London, Bill to confirm Letters Patent for incor- porating them, read, and rejected, 8 Mar. Patent to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, eod. die. Gatton Election, Report touching it, 7 eb. Debate, and Refo- lution thereupon, eod. die. Gelder, Mr. committed to the Serjeant for forging the Lord Treafurer’s Hand, 7 Mar. Glafs, Patent, Report touching it, 16 May. .Voted a Grievance, eod. die. Order about it, 19 Dec. Gold-foliate, Report touching the Patent for making it, 18 Apr. Further Report, and Patent condemned, 2 May. Goldjmith, Mr. Projector of the Patent for difpenfing with the Statute of Apprentices, 21 Mar. Complaint of a Profecution carried on by him againtt Sir Edw. Coke, 24 Nov. Vide Coke. Gold Weights, Proclamation, concerning them, to be debated at the Committee of Grievances, 17 May. Gold wire. Vide Thread. Gerge, Sir Ferdinando, complained of, for executing a Patent for Reftraint of fifhing in New England, 20 Nov. Vide Patents. Grace, George, Bill to naturalize him, and his Sifter, read, 5 Mar. . ; Grain. Vide Corr. Grammar-fchools. Vide Hofpitals. Grants, made to Q. Eliz. by collegiate and ecclefiaftical Corpora- tions, Bill for confirming them, read, 13 Mar. Bill for confirming Grants to the King, and of Letters Patent made by him to others, read, and rejected, 25 Apr. Graunt, Wintour, Efq; Bill. to fell Lands, read, 28 Feb. Gray, Abraham, fent for by the Serjeant, for exercifing a Patent for drefling of Arms, 17 Apr. - Grievances, Committee appointed, 5 Feb. Order of the laft Par- jiament, about prefenting them, revived, 8. Report touching the Patents for Inns, Oftries, and Ale-houfes, 27. Vide Inns. —touching the Patents for Gold and Silver Thread, 5 Mar. Vide Thread.—touching the Patent of Concealments, 6 Mar. Vide Concealments.—touching the Patent. of concealed Tythes, 1g Mar. Patent condemned, eod. die—Report touching the Patent for difpenfing with the Statute of Rogues, and It- cenfing Pedlars; the Patent for Apprentices; and the Pa- tent for ingroffing of Wills, 21 Mar. Patents condemned, eod. die—Report touching the Patents for making Warrens and Parks, and difpenfing with Tillage, 26 Mar. Vide Warrens.—touching the Patent of concealed Tolls, eod. die. Patent condemned, eod. die—Refolution. touching the Stay of all Suits grounded upon Patents, condemned as Grievances, eod. die.—Committee to appoint a Sub-committee for Survey of the Petitions of Grievance, 17 Apr. Report, and Order for confidering them, 18.—Report touching the Patent for making Gold-foliate, cod. die. Vide Gold-foliate—touching Sir Geo. Marthall, ‘om die. Vide Marfhall—touching a Charge of Vou, Ll. Bribery againft Sir Jo. Bennet, eod. die. Vide Bennet.—touch- ing the Patents for Wintertonnefs and Dungeonnefle Light- houfes, cod. die. Vide Light-houfes—touching the Patent for importing of Lobfters and Salmons, 25 Apr. Patent con- demned, eod. die —Committee appointed to examine the Griev- ances of Ireland, 26 Apr. Vide Trelendl:—Thepaet touching the Privy Seal of the Matters in Chancery, 27 Apr. Vide Chancery. —Order for the meeting of the Sub-committee, 2 May.---Re- port touching Mr. Lepton’s Patent for making Billsand Letters, 14 May. Vide Lepton.—Committee appointed to reduce the Grievances into Writing, to be tendered to the King, 16 May. —Report touching the Patent for Glaffes, cod. die. Vide Glajs. —Order for preparing the Petition of Grievances for the King, 17 May.—for the meeting of the Committee for that Purpoie, 28.—againft putting in Execution any Patents, condemned as Grievances, during an Adjournment of the Parliament, 2 June. A Roll of the Grievances to be made, 29 Nov. Order for the fitting of the Committee, eod. die—for receiving the Report touching feveral Grievances, 18 Dec. Vide plura fub Pa- tents. Grimfby EleG&tion. Vide Eleétions. 21° & 22° Jac. I. Parl. 4. A. 1623, & 1624. CA OLS. Vide Patents. Gerrard, Sir Thomas, his Petition to be difcharged from being a Member, read, 8 Mar. Information given of his be+ ing a Recufant, and ordered to attend, to take the Oaths, eod. die. An Order, figned by the Speaker, fent for him, 9 Mar. Houfe informed of his having abfconded, and Serjeant ordered to fearch for and attach him, 9 & 10 Mar. Serjeant’s Report touching him, 10. Return to be brought in, and Committee appointed, to examine, whether he be a Recufant convict, eod. die. Report, 13 Mar. His Servants to be brought by the Ser- jeant to be examined, and his Horfes to be ftayed, 10 Mar. Bill of Pramunire, againuft him, ordered to be drawn, 13. Committee to examine, and tender the Oaths to his Servant, eod. die. His Servant difcharged, eod. die. Houfe informed of his being with the Spanifh Ambaflador, and Order there- upon, 18 Mar. Order for bringing in the Bill againft him, eod. die. Debate touching the Manner of punifhing his Con- tempt, 3 Apr. To be committed to the Tower, eod. die. Some, who returned him, to be fent for, 16 Apr. - Glafs, Patent to be confidered by the Committee of Grievances, 1 May. Gloucejterfhire Ele&ion, Report, and Refolution concerning it, g Apr. Glover, Joffe. Vide Darcy. Gold-wire-drawers, Bill for confirming their Charter, read, and rejected, 4 Mar. Their Patent to be brought tothe Committee of Grievances, eod. die. Report touching it, and Patent con- demned, 3 Apr. Precedents of Punifhments, in like Cafes, to be fearched, eod.die. Fowles, the Procurer, committed to the Serjeant, eod. die. Vide Fowles. Motion for abolifhing this Manufacture, eod. die. Committee to confider of it, 3 & 13 Apr. Petition of Grievance, touching the Patent, read, and allowed, 25 May. Goodnefion, Manor. Vide Engeham. Gorge, Sir Ferdinando. Vide Fishing. Goteland, Manor, Bill for fecuring it, under the Prince, from the Incumbrances of Sir Rich. Etherington, read, 13 Mar. Com- mitted, 15. ‘Sir Richard, and fome Perfon from Lord Davers, to attend the Committee, 23. Lord Davers to have a Copy of il, 2 Apr. Grice, Mr. Vide Grys. : Grievances, Committee of the whole Houfe appointed for them, 23 Feb. To confider of Patents condemned the preceding Seffion, and whether any executed fince, 25. Clerk’s Book to be fearched for Grievances of laft Parliament, and of 7 Jac. 10 Mar. Order for the fitting of the Commitiee, 12. Report touching the Patent for Survey of Sea-coals in Newcaftle, 13, Vide Sea-coals.—touching Sir F. Gorge’s Patent for a Planta- tion in New England, 17 Mar. Vide Fi/hing.—touching the Gold-wire-drawers Patent, 3 Apr. Vide Gold-wire-drawers.— touching the Patent for feparating the Grocers and Apothe- caries, 6 Apr. Patent condemned, cod. die. Petition of Griev- ance thereon, read, and agreed to, 25 May.—Report touching the Charge againft the Lord Treafurer, 9 Apr. Vide Trea- furer.—touching Sir Jo. Townfend’s Patent of Concealments, 28 Apr. Vide Conceafments. Committee appointed to draw thefe, and other Grievances, into Form, to be prefented to the King, eod. die, Report touching the Complaint againft the Bifhop of Norwich, 7 May. Vide Norwich—touching the Lady Dale’s Cafe, 8 May. Vide Dale—touching Sir S. Harvey’s Abufes, in relating to Purveyance, 11 May. Vide Harvey: Order for reducing the Grievances into a parliamentary Form, eod. die. Report touching the Patent concerning Briets, 13 May. Vide Briefs—touching the State of the Proceedings in the Committee, 19 May.— touching INDEX oo the First VoLuUME. touching the Court of Wards, eod. die. Vide Wards.—toueh- ing the Patents for keeping York and Lancafier Gaols, 21 May. Vide Patents. Order tor bringing in the Grievances, digetied into a parliamentary Form, 22 May. Proceedings thereon, 25. —Report touching Sir Jo. Meldram’s Patent for Winterton- nefle Light-houfe, 24 May. Vide Wintertonneffe. Report touching the Caule between Sir Pexall Brockaffe and Au- ditor Curle, and Order thereupon, 25 May. Grievances con- cerning Trade prefented, and Proceedings thereon, 26 May. Vide Trade. Report touching the Patent and Proclamation concerning the Staplers, and Refolutions thereupon, eod. die. Committee to pen a Petition of Grievance thereon, eod. die. Petition of Grievance againft printing and importing popith Books, read, and allowed, eod. die. Meport touching the Pro- clamations againft living in Town at Chrifimas, &c. eod. die. Petition of Grievance concerning the Proclamation for Build- ings, read, and allowed, eed. die. King to be moved for Accefs to prefent the Grievances, eod. die. Petition of Grievance touching Di. Anyon, read, and allowed, 27 May. King to be attended with the Grievances, eod. die. Committee appointed to prefent them, and make Report, 28 May. Committee ap- pointed to examine them, cod. die. Report touching the Deli- very of them, and the King’s Anfwer, 29. Anfwer to be re-de- livered to the Reporter, and no Copies to be made of it, eod. die. Grimefdich, Mr. Report from Committee for Courts of Juftice, touching his Complaint againft the Lord Keeper, and Regifter, 14 Apr. His Petition for a re-hearing of his Caufe, read, and Order thereupon, eod. die. Grocers. Vide Grievances. Grys, Mr. Report from Committee for Courts of Juftice, toueh- ing his Cafe,17 Mar. His Wife’s Petition read, and ordered to be heard by Counfel, eod. die. Further Report, and Order thereupon, 26 May. 1° Car. 1. Parl. 1. A. 1625. RIEVANCES, Motion for a Committee, and Debate thereon, 22 June. Committee of the whole Houfe to confi- der of it, cod. die. King’s Meflage touching the Grievances prefented laft Parliament, eod. die. Order for receiving the Report of his Anfwer thereto, 4 July. Anfwer reported, aa Motions thereupon, eod. die. Anfwer delivered in, eod. die. 1° & 2°Car. 1. Parl. 2. A. 1625, & 1626. GAOLS._ Vide Prifoners. Gifford, Mr. Returned for St. Edmond(bury, and arrefied after his Eleétion, Motion about him, 9 Feb. Keeper of the Gate-houfe examined at the Bar, eod. die. Matter to be de- bated in the Houfe, and Clerk of the Crown to attend, eod. die. Committee of Privileges to examine the Time of the Election, and Town-clerk toattend, 10 Feb. Report,15. Debate, and Refolutions thereupon, 16. Date of the Return amended, and Mr. Gifford to have Privilege, 17. Brought into the Houle, and difcharged, 18. Gold-wire-drawers. Vide Apparel. Grampound Ele&ion, Report, and Refolutions concerning it, 17 Feb. Gregge, Mr. Report touching a Patent to him and his Son, for Examination of Witneffes in the County of Chefter, 28 Feb. To attend, and bring in the Patent, eod. die. Further Report, and Patent condemned, 25 May. Grievances, Committee appointed, 10 Feb. To confider of all Grievances fince the Beginning of K. James’s Reign, and how they have been an{wered, and reformed, eod. die. Report touch- ing the Reftraint of Trade by Pirates and Dunkirkers, 16 Feb. —touching the Arreft of Merchant Ships and Effetts, in France, 18. Vide France.—touching an Impofition upon Wines, 20 Feb. Vide Wines.—touching the Patent for Exa- mination of Witneffes in Chefhire, 28 Feb. Vide Gregge.— touching a Play-houfe in Black-fryers, eod. die. Vide Play- houfe—touching a Petition of the Merchants of Calais, and Order thereupon, 8 Mar.—touching Mr. Willes’s Petition, and felecét Committee appointed toexamine it, eod. die. Report touching Mr. Heaman’s Petition for the Lofs of his Ship, 22 Mar. Vide Heaman.—touching the Salt Patent, 28 Mar. Vide Salt.—touching Impofitions witkout Confent of Parlia- ment; the Licence to dilpenfe with retailing of Wines; Re- ‘ftraint of Fifhing in America; the granting of Briefs; the Light-houfe at Wintertonneffe ; the Office of Survey of Sea- eqals ; [mpofitions by the Merchant-adventurers ; the Wrongs to the Merchant-adventurers by the United Provinces; the undue Exaétion of Fees by the Officers of the Cuftoms ; the Licence for Tranfportation of white Cloths; and the preter- mitted Cuftoms; 24 May. Refolutions and Orders thereupon, eod. die. Report touching an Impofition upon Currants; the Abufes of the Deputy Alneager; the Grievance of Purvey- ance; Proclamations for Lent ; and the Abufes of Dr. Anyon ; 25 May. Refolutions and Proceedings thereon, eod. die. Com-. mittee appointed to. reduce the Grievances into Form, to bt prelented to the King, eod. die. 3° & 4° Car. 1. Parl. 3. Sess. 1. A. 1627, & 1628. G4 TTON Ele@ion, and double Return, Report, and Refo- lution concerning it, 26 Mar. Gerrard, Lord, Bill from the Lords, to enable him to make a Jointure, &c. 28 Apr. Read, 29. Committed,7 May. Re- ported, 3 June. Palled, 11. Gold{miths Company, their Petition read, and Order thereupon, 17 May. Another Petition read, and referred to a Commiitee, 13 June. Vide Exchangers. Gray, Lord, Bill to naturelize him, and Sir Rob. Dyell, and Geo. Kirke, Efq; read, 17 Apr. Lord Gray’s Name to be firuck out, and the Bill to proceed for the others, 25. Committed, eod. die. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 2 May. Paffed, o. Great, Mr. his Petition referred to Committee for Courts of Juftice, and Counfel afligned him, 17 Apr. Greenland Company, their Patent to be brought to the Com- mittee of Grievances, 28 Apr. Their Anfwer to the Demands of York and Hull, read, 17 May. Select Committee appointed to confider thereof, and of their Patent, eod. die. Report, and Order thereupon, 26. Patent to be further confidered, and Counfel to be heard, 13 June. Gregge, Edward, and his Son, fent for by Warrant for executing their Patent condemned, 2 June. Ordered to attend, 25. Grievances, Committee appointed, 20 Mar. All Petitions of Grievance to be prefented to the Committee, 27. Report touching a new Impofition upon Wines, and Imprifonment of the Merchants, eod.die. Vide Wine-merchants—touching the Imprifonment of Mr. Clegatt, 2 May. Vide Clegatt.—touch- ing the Greenland Company’s Patent, <6 May. Vide Green- land.—touching Sir Tho. Mounfon’s Patent for making of Bills and Procefs, called the King’s Letters, 30 May. Proceedings thereon, and Patent adjudged a Grievance, eod. die—Com- plaint of the Execution of Grege’s Patent, condemned the preceding Seffion, 2 June. Vide fupra Gregge.— Report touch- ing an Impofition upon Malt, brewed in and near London, 4 June. Vide Brewers. Committee clofed, by Order of the Houte, 9 June. Patent to the Salt-petre-men adjudged a Griey- ance, 20. Vide Salt-petre. Patent fora Toll at ‘I'wo Bridges in Yorkthire, adjudged a Grievance, ecd.die. Vide Levett.— Patent to the Exchangers, voted a Grievance, 23 June. Vide Exchangers.—Patent to De Queftor, for fole carrying of Let- ters out of, and into, the Kingdom, voted a Grievance, 24 June. Gurnay, Mr. his Letter, and Petition, concerning Images in Churches, read 23 May. 4 Car. 1. Parl. 3. Sess. 2. A. 1628. G LAZIERS of Leicefter, their Petition read, and referred to the Committee of Grievances, 17 Feb. Gregge, Edward, and his Son, fent for up, for executing their Patent afier it was condemned, 12 Feb. Grievances, Committee appointed, 20 Jan. pointed, 23. ‘ Griffin, Lady, Bill for her quiet Enjoyment of the Cattle and Manor of Braybrooke, read, 17 Feb. New Chairman ap- 1° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sess. 1, A. 1547. L{° “AGE, Bill for Refpite thereof in the County of Lan- cafier, read, 15 Dec. Horfes, Bill from the Lords, againft carrying them out of the Realm, read, 13. 15. & 20, Dee. Pailed, 21. 2° & 3° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sess. 2. A. 1548. AIL-SHOT. Vide Hand-guns. Hand-guns, Bill from the Lords, againft fhooting therein, read, 9 & 11 Mar. Paffed, 12. Handicrafts, Bill for exercifing Tw d ‘ _ New Bill read, 21 Feb. oe an one er Hare, Sir Nicholas. Vide Hubbart. Hats, and Caps, Bill for making them, read, 5 Jan. Committed, 9g. Paffed, 24. Heirs, Bill for them to be of the Half-blood, read, 22 Jan. Com- mitted, 12 Feb. Hemp, and Flax, Bill for fowing it, read, 8 Dec. ; Herrings, Bill for buying them in Leiftoff Road, read 4 Feb. Highways, Bill for enlarging them, read, 18 Dec. Homage, Bill for Refpite thereof, read, and committed, 27 Feb. —New Bill read, 8 Mar. Horfes, Bill from the Lords, to take away Clergy for ftealing them, read, 7 & 9 Mar. Paffed, 11. Houfe to be called, 15 Dec. & 26 Jay. Called, 16 Feb. Howurd, Lord Thomas, Bill from the Lords, for Affurance of Lands INDEX © thé First Votume. Lands to his younger Sons, read, 23 Feb. & 4 Mar. Pafféd; Mar. Habbart, Thomas, and Audrey, their Bill againft Sir Nicholas Hare, for Repeal of an AG 31 H. VIII. read, 4&9 Feb. To be delivered out of the Houfe and no further proceeded in, 12. Committee to compromife the Matter, or elfe the Lord Pro- tector to determine it, eod. die. 3° & 4° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Seff: 3. A. 1549. EIRS, Bill from the Lords for punifhing fuch, as procure the Death of thofe, to whom they are inheritable, 28 Dec. Read, 30 Dec. & 4 Jan. Herrings, Bill for buying them in Lyftoff Road, read, 8 No ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ion for doubling it, negative, eod. die. The ufual Collection to be made, eod. die. Committee appointed to collect it, 29 June. Members abfent to pay double, unlefs anfwered for, 29 June, & 4 July. Committee named to confider of the Difiribution, 6 July—Account of the Diftribution of the Benevolence of the Houfe at the laft Parliament 43 Eliz. prefented, 29 June. Houfe dines at Merchant-taylors Hall, 3 July. Howard, Lord William. Vide Norfolk. Howfon, Dr. complained of for feandalous Speeches againft the Houfe, 8 June. Matter referred to the Sub-committee for Religion, eod. die. Hume, Sir George, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize him, and his Wife and Children, 19 Apr. Read, 21. Committed, 18 May. Reported, and paffed, 22. Sent to the Lords, 24.—Bill from the Lords, for Contirmation of Letters Patents granted to him, 19 Apr. Read, 21. Committed, 30 May. Reported, with Amendments, and pafled, 4 June. Sent to the Lords, g. Hujbandry, and Tillage, Bill for better Execution of the Statutes for Maintenance thereof, read, 18 May. Committed, 25. Reported, and to fleep, 7 June. 3° & 4° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Sef: 2. A. 1605,& 1606. ARE, Mr. taxed by the Lords for fomething faid at a Conference, Debate thereupon, 20 Feb. Cleared, by Vote of the Houfe, eod. die. Committee appointed, to confider of a Meffage to the Lords thereupon, 22 Feb. Report, 24. Hafylwood, Marmyon, Efq; Bill to-enable him to {fell Lands, read, 17 Mar. TIatton, Sir Chriftopher, Bill from the Lords, to enable him to fell Lands, 27 Mar, Read, 31. Committed, 4 Apr. Reported, with Amendments, and pafled, 30. Sent to the Lords, 10 May. Hay, and Straw, Bill to prevent deceitful Truffes thereof, read, 17 Feb. Rejected, 2 Apr. Hereford, County, Bill for Maintenance of Tillage and Huf- bandry therein, read, 6 & 17 Feb. Committed, 20 Mar. Hicks, Sir Michael. Vide Skinner. Highways, Bill to repair them, read, 1 Feb. Committed, 6. Hobby, Sir Edward. Vide Grievances. Holdich, John, Bill from the Lords, to relieve him againft a Fine, 13 May. Read, 15. Committed, 16. Reported, and Countel ta be heard, 22. Mr. Holdich in Perfon, and Counfel for the other Parties, heard, 23. The Matter agreed to be compro- mifed, and Committees chofen by both Parties, eod. die. Bill read Third time, and to fleep, 24 May. . Holland, Sir John, Bill for his Reftitution, read, 17 Feb. Com- mitted, 27. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 7 Mar. Patfied, 12. Sent to the Lords, 13. ‘ Hotham, John, Efg; Billto enable him to fettle a Jointure upon his Wife, read, 23 Jan. Committed, 25. Reported, and to be ingroffed,10 Feb. Pafled, 3 Mar. Sent to the Lords, 6. Houjfe, defires the Lord Chamberlain to remove all Strangers, in order to make room for the Members, g Nov. Sends the Ser- jeant to take into his Cuftody fome Members Servants com- mitted by the Judges of the King’s Bench, 24 Jan. Com- plaint of the Admitiion of Strangers into the Place appointed for the Members of the Houfe, at the Arraignment of the Confpirators in the Powder Plot, and Order thereupon, 28 Jan.—Houfe to be called, 31 Mar. Called,g Apr. To be called again, and Defaulters to be fined, 17. Vide Members. —Committee to confider of the Diftribution of the Money collected for the Officers of the Houfe,27 May. Report, and Order thereon, ead. die. Vou. I. First VoLuME. Hull, Merchants of. Vide Merchants. 4 & 5° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Seff 3. A. 1606, & 1607. EREFORDS HIRE, Bill for Maintenance of Til- lage and Hufbandry in feveral Manors and Parifhes therein, read, 27 Feb. Committed, 4 Mar. Reported, and to be in- groffed, 27. Paffed, 30 Apr. Sent to the Lords, 12 May. Returned, with Amendments, 3 June. Amendments agreed to, 11. High-commifion Court, Particulars touching the exorbitant Power and Practices thereof, read, and a Bill to reftrain the fame, prefented, 23 June. Highways in Suffex, Surrey, and Kent, Bill to repair them, read, 9 J ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- he royal Affent to fome Bills, 22. Debate and Refolution touching an Adjournment of the Houfe, eod. die. Vide Adjournment.—Houfe goes to the Abby, to hear 4 Sermon on the King’s Inauguration Day, 24 Mar. Speaker to fend his Warrant to the Surveyor of the Works, and Com- mittee to confider of neceflary Alterations to be made in the Houfe, 26.—Houfe to be prefent at the giving of Judgments upon Impeachments, eod. die. Complaint of Mifinformations given to the King, touching the Proceedings of the Houfe, 24 Apr. Committee appointed, to confider of the ancient Ordi- nances concerning this Matter, and of a fit Courfe to remedy it,1 May. Debate touching the Power of the Houfe in regard to Judicature, 2 May. Vide Floyd.—Houtfe adjourns itfeif, in purfuance of the King’s Comumiilions, 4 June, 14 Nov. &19 Dec.—Relation of the State of the Bufinefs in the Houfe, and Orders thereupon, 20 Nov. Hudjon, Mr. Vide Coke, Sir Edward. Hull, Abraham, Bill to naturalize him, read, 28 Apr. Hutton, Juftice. Vide Morley. 21° & 22° Jac. 1. Parl. 4. A. 1623, & 1624; ABEAS CORPUS, Writs of. Vide Writs. Flackney. Vide Wentworth. Hallamfhire, Cutlers of, Bill for the Government of them, pre- fented, and read, 25 Mar. Committed, 3 Apr. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 12. Paffed, 23. Hamilton, Marquis of, Bilt from the Lords, for his Naturdliza- tion, 14 Apr. Read twice, and committed, eod. die. Reported, and paffed, * *. Harris, Dr. Complaint againft him for undue Praétices about the Election for Blechingley, 22 Mar. Cummittee of Privileges to examine it, eod. die. Report, 29 Apr. Ordered to be brought to the Bar as a Delinquent, eod. die. Cenfured, and ordered to acknowledge his Fault in the Pulpit, 30 Apr. Difcharged, eod. die. Harvey, Sir Simon, Committee to perufe his Books, 1 May. Or- dered to bring them in, 3. Report touching his Abufes in relation to Purveyance, 11. Complaint to’be prefented to the King, eod. die. Petition of Grievance concerning him, read, and agreed to, 25 May. rer Election, Report and Refolution touching it, 28 Tay. Heralds, Complaint againft them, and Committee to confider thereof, 28 Apr. Mr. Yorke’s Petition referred, 29. Com- mittee impowered to fend for Parties, 30. Report, 8 May. Petition of the Heralds read, eod. die. Confideration of the Jurifdiétion of the Earl Marfhal’s Court poftponed, eod. die. Vifitations by the Heralds voted a Grievance, eod. die. Motion for fending to the Lord Marthal about Mr. Yorke, difagreed to, 15 May. Heron, Sir Edward, Bill for Sale of Lands, read, 26 Feb. Com- mitted, 10 Mar. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 29 Apr. Paffed, 4 May. Henry, Bill from the Lords, to make void Letters Patent to him for packing and drying of Fifh, 4 May. Read twice, and committed, eod. die. Reported, and pafied, 5 May. Hertford, Earl of, Bilk to enable him to fell Lands, read, 6 Mar. Committed, 10. Reported, and re-committed, 23. Reported, and to be ingroffed, eod. die. Pafled, 7 Apr. Borough of, reftored, 4 May. Holderne/s, Earl of. Vide James. Hopkins, John. Vide Stratford. Hofpitals, and Work-houfes, Bill to revive an Aét 39 Eliz. for erecting them, read, 25 Feb.—Bill from the Lords, to the fame Purpofe,1o Mar. Read, eod. die. Committed, 18 Mar. Reported, with Amendments, eod. die. Pafled, eod. die. Report touching Sir Jo. Towntend’s Patent of concealed Hofpitals, 28 Apr. Vide Conceulments. Bill from the Lords, for Confirmation of Hofpitals and Free-fchools, 15 May. Read twice, and committed, 19. Hoftlers. Vide Innholders. Houfe, fworn, 12 & 16 Feb. To receive the Communion, 23. Appoints Dr. Bargrave to preach, eod. die. Report touching the Number of Communicants, 18 Mar.—Houfe to be called, 12 May.—Collection to be made for the Officers of the Houfe, and Committee appointed to receive it, eod.die. Motion about the Diniribution of it, 27 May. Account of the Sum collected, and Orders thereon, 29. 1° Car. I. Parl. 1. A. 1625. ABEAS CORPUS, Writs of, Bill to refirain the granting of them, read, * *. Committed, * *. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 4 Aug. Pafled, 9. Hart, sarPost y cer TS : es ee es a Bees See TE Sit abn aoa INDEX 0 the Hart, Captain, his Petition tendered, and to reft till the Houfe fuller, 8 Aug. Another Petition read, 10. Houfe, to receive the Communion, 21 June. Appoints Perfons to preach before them thereat, 21 & 22. Orders a Fatt to be kept amongtft themfelves, 21. Attends a Commiflion in the Houfe of Peers, for giving the royal Affent to Bills, 11 July. Adjourns to Oxford, eod. die. Vide Adjournment.—Houle to be covered at a Conference with the Lords, if the Lords be covered, 8 Aug. Order touching the Collection to be made for the Officers of the Houfe, 12 Aug. 1° & 2° Car. I. Parl. 2. A. 1625 & 1626. HA CK ETT, Mr. his Bill read, 6 June. | ; Hartop, Sir Thomas, Sheriff of Leicefter. Vide Leicester- shire. Heaman, Mr. Report from the Committee of Grievances, touch- ing his Petition for the Lofs of his Ship, and felect Committee appointed to confider of it, 22 Mar. Inftruétion touching the Manner of their Proceeding, 24. High Commiffion Court, Star-chamber, &c. Committee appoint- = to draw a Bill againit ftopping Proceedings therein, 24 ay. —— A. Efq. Bill to fell Lands, read, 25 Feb. Committed, 1 Mar. Toufe, to receive the Communion, 9 Feb. Appoints the Dean of Canterbury to preach thereat, eod. die. Declares itfelf to have Power to fend the Serjeant to deliver a Prifoner, without a Ha- beas Corpus, 15 Feb. Orders the Doors to be locked, and none to go out without Leave, 15 & 27 Mar. 1 Apr. & 12 May. Adjourns, upon a Meflage from the King for that Purpofe, 28 Mar. & 5 Apr. To be called, 3 & 5 Apr. & 23 May. To rife, upon Queftion, 3 Apr. Called, 5 Apr. & 2 June. Or- ders and Proceedings touching the Defaulters, 5 Apr. 23 May ; 2,3-5-10 & 14 June. Houle numbered, upon a Divifion, notwithftanding the yielding of the Noes, q May. Colleétion to be made for the Officers of the Houfe, and Committee ap- pointed to receive it, 13 June. Order touching the Difiribution of it, 15. Members negleéting to pay it, to pay double, eod. die. Order for Payment of a further Sum, eod. die. Howard, Sir Robert, Complaint of his being excommunicated, and imprifoned, during Privilege, and Committee appointed to confider of it, 17 Feb. To be difpented with from receiving the Communion, 18. Report touching him and Refolutions thereupon, 21 Mar. Matter to be confidered in the Houfe, and Parties complained of to attend, 21 & 24. Committee to confider of Queftions to be afked- them, 21. Interroga- tories tendered, 29 Apr. Sir H. Martin heard, eod. die. Several other Perfons examined,-3 May. Refolution and Proceedings thereupon, eod. die.:. Information given to the Houfe, of the. Proceedings againft Sir Robert being vacated, and Order there- upon, 10 June. Proceedings to ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- inft them, read 22 Mar. Committed, 27. Bill to make void the Marriage or Contracts of Infants, read, 31 May. Committed, 4 June. Informers upon penal Statutes, Bill for Reformation of their Abufes, read, 25 May. Committed, 1 June. Inmates, and new Buildings, Bill to prevent Mifchiefs arifing therefrom, read, 21 Apr. Committed, 27—New Bill read, 30 June. Committed, 2 July. Inns. Vide Alehoufes, and Viéiualling-houfes. Jones, William, delivers a Bill to the Speaker coming to the Houfe, 15 May. Committed to the Serjeant, eod. die. Houfe acquainted, by the Speaker, with the Purport of the Bill, and of the King’s having affumed the Examination of it to himfelf, and retained it, 17 May. Motions thereupon, eod. die. Fur- ther Debate, touching the Delivery of the Bill out of the Houle, and Order thereupon, 23 May. Jones’s Petition left on the Table by a Member, 2 June. Another Petition read, and Order for his Difcharge, 5 July. Journals of the Houfe. Vide Records. Irifh Servitors in the Wars, Motion for their Relief, and Com- mittee appointed to confider thereof, 26 Mar. King’s Meilage concerning them, 16 May. Petition of feveral other Officers read, and referred to the fame Committee, 21. Projeét for their Relief reported, 24. Motions about it, and Committee to meet thereupon, 12 June. Project reported, and agreed to, 20. Judgments, Bill for regiftering fuch, as may impeach Purchafes of Lands, read, 21 Apr. Committed, 5 May. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 19. Counfel to be heard, for the Prothono- taries of the Common Pleas, againft it, 22. Heard, and Bill dafhed, 25. Jujtice, Bill for better Execution thereof, paffed, 20 Apr. Vide Extortion. 3° & 4° Jac. I. Parl. 1. Sef. 2. A. 1605 & 1606. JE SUITS, and Seminaries, Matter touching them, to be offered by the Speaker to the King, 9 Apr. King to be moved for Execution of the Laws again{ft them, 13 May. His Anfwer reported, 16. Vide Recufants. Impofitions. Vide Grievances, and Taxes. Inmates, and new Buildings, Bill to prevent Dangers arifing therefrom, read, 23 Jan. Committed, 24. Reported, and re- committed, 20 Mar. Rejeéted, 1 Apr. Johnfion, ..., one of the Confpirators in the Powder Plot, apprehended, 5 Nov. Joiners, and Carvers, Bill for eftablifhing a former Statute con- cerning them, read, 28 Feb. Judges, sph xe ap nes Rye ae: wet me eee BB A eat iy Soe ae ft Bi i % ae ye { cy 2 ESET REN Se as ‘tea apa per asernet = ety Ce eS Fae ead ea oe lial So eT . art ? Sb ay See et ie Ce 4 i 4 + *¥ > oe 3 # ¥ if f INDEX 0 the Judges, An Objection to their Competency for conferring with the Commons, 12 Apr. ; Juries, Bill to reform Abufes in impanneling them, read, 29 Jan. Committed, 31. Jurors. Vide Grievances. Jujtices of Peace, Bill for Cap. utlagatum to be awarded by them, prefented, 17 Mar. Read, * *, Committed, 1 Apr. 4° & 5° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. ‘Sess. 3. A. 1606 & 1607. JES UITS, Priefts, and Recufants, Committee appointed to frame a Petition to the King, to enforce the Laws againft them, 18 May. Petition reported, 11 June. Motion for read- ing it oppofed by the Speaker, and King’s Difapprobation of the Proceeding fignified, 16. Debate thereon, and Committee appointed to fearch Precedents in relation thereto, eod. die. King’s Meffage touching the Petition, 18 June. Petition read, and to fleep, eod. die. Inmates, and unneceflary Buildings, in and near London, Bill to avoid the Number of them, read, 6 Dec. Committed, 8. Re- ported, and rejected, 19 June.—Bill, to the fame Purpofe, from the Lords, 3 Mar. Read, 7. Committed, 27 Apr. Bill from the Lords, againft dividing of Tenements, In- mates, Underfitters, and diforderly Houfes, 3 Mar. Read, 6. Rejeéted, 11.—New Bill read,6 May. Committed, 15. Inundations, in feveral Counties, Committee to confider of Means to repair Loffes occafioned thereby, 3 Mar. Report, 27. Jointurefes of Efiates in Tail, Bill to make them punithable for Watie, read, 16 Feb. Committed, 26. Journals of the Houfe, Committee of Privileges to perufe them, 19 June. Report, and Order thereupon, 3 July. Tron-mills, near London, Bill concerning them, read, 2 Mar. Committed, 11. Reported, and to fleep, 14. 7° & 8° Jac. 1. Parl, 1. Sess. 4. A. 1609 & 1610, DLENESS, Bill for fuppreffing it, read, 18 Apr. Com- mitied, 19. Jenifon, William, and Joln, Bill to confirm a Partition of Lands between them, read, 20 Feb. Committed, 22. Reported, and to fleep, and new Bill ordered, 20 Mar. Read, 24. Commit- ted, 29. Reported, and rejefed, 19 June. Jernegan, Henry, Etq ; Bill to confirm the Sale of his Lands made to Sir John Heveningham, read, 16 Feb. Committed, 20. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 5 Mar. Pafled, * *. Sent to the Lords, 13. Jesuits. Vide Priests. Impofitions, Report from Committee of Grievances touching them, 25 Apr. Further Report, 30. Copy of a Record 46 E. IIL. touching this Matter, read, and to be examined by the Original, eod. die. Avowed to be true, 1 May. Committee appointed to fearch Records touching Impofitions, eod. die. King’s Counfe] to attend, 4 & 10 May. King’s Meflage touching the Pro- ceedings of the Houle in this Cafe, 11. Debate, and Proceed- ings thereupon, eod. die. Another Meflage about them, 12 May. To be confidered of in a Committee of the whole Houle, eod. die. Another Meflage. from the King, 15 May. Committee to treat of a Meflage to the King cantiag Impo- fitions, 18. Draught of it reported, and agreed to, and to be prefented to the King, 19. Report of the Delivery thereof, and Houfe to attend the King thereon, 21. Debate touching his Speech, forbidding the Houfe to debate his Right of impofing, and Committee to confider of a Courfe to be taken therein, 22. Petition to the King thereupon reported, and to be ingrofled, 23. Form of it entered, eod. die. King to be attended therewith, and Committee appointed to deliver it, 24 May. His Anfwer re- ported, 25. Debate, and Refolution thereupon, eod. die. Report touching Recards fearched, 26 May. Further Search to be made, 6 & 9 June. Records brought, and referred to the Com- mittee of Grievances, 11. Report touching them, 12. Tobe further confidered, eod. die. Committee to confider of a Petition touching Impofitions, 15 June. Report, 16. Records, from the Exchequer and Tower, brought in, and to be debated ina Committee of the whole Houfe, eod. die. Committee to fearch the Port-books, eod. die. Report, and Order, touching the Records, 19 June. Further Report touching them, 22. Debate touching Impofitions in ‘the Grand Committee, 23. 28 & 29 June; 2July. Report, and Committee appointed to confider of the Frame of a Petition to the King thereon, 3 July. Peti- tion reported, and agreed to, 4. Committee to digeft the Debate 10. Bill, againft Impofitions, to be prepared, eod. die. Read, and committed, 14 July. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 16. Patled, and fent to the Lords, 17. Informers, Bill againtt them, prefented, 20 June. Read, * #. Committed, 25 June. Inmates, and new Buildings, Bill touching them, prefented, 5 May. Read 8. Comuitted, 16, Journal, Committee to perufe the Entries therein, and to perfec them, 9 Feb. Report, and Order thereon, 19. Vou, I. First VoLumMe, Jurifdiétion, ecclefiaftical, Bill relating thereto, read, 12 Mar, Committed, 14. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 14 May, -Paffed, 21. Jujiice, Bill for better Execution thereof, read, 2 May. Vide Remanding. Jujtices of Peace. Vide Magiftrates, 12° Jac. I. Parl, 2. A. 1614, P ERNEGAN, Mr. Bill for confirming a Decree in Chan- cery concerning him, read, 16 Apr. Committed, 9 May, Reported, and to be ingroffed, 16. Pafled, 23. Jesuits, Motion for a Proclamation againft them, to be confidered by a Committee, 13 Apr. Letters in their Favour, to the Town-clerk of London, and the Clerk of the Peace for Mid- vn to be brought to the Committee for Recufants, 12 May. Impojitions. Vide 'Tazes. Report from Committee of Grievances, touching the King’s Claim of Impofitions, and Debate thereon, 5 May, Conterence to be defired with the Loids thereon, and Com- mittee appointed to prepare the Manner of it, eod. die. Records concerning Impofitions, to be brought to the Committee, 6 May. Matter of the Conference reported, and re-committed, 12. The King’s .Counfel fent for, 16. Order for fearch of Records, eod. die. Further Debate, and Matter to be ar- gued in a Committee of the whole Houfe, eod. die. Report touching the Difpofition of the Parts of the Conference, and Order thereupon, 19 May. Meflage to be fent to the Lords, for a Conference, eod. die. Queftion about the King’s Right of impofing, argued in a Committee of the whole Houfe, eod. die. Speaker's Letters to be fent for Records, 20 May. Con- ference detired with the Lords, 21. Further Debate touching the King’s Right of impofing, eod. die Debate touching an Afpertion caft upou the Houle for their Proceedings in this Matter, and Committee appointed to confider of it, 25 May. — Lincoln. Conterence difagreed to by the Lords, 26 Jay. pie and new Buildings, Bill against them, read, 13 May. Committed, 1 June. Inquifitions. Vide Offices. . Journals, and Records, of the Houfe, Motion fora fit Place to keep them in, referred to the Committee of Privileges, 15 Apr. & 20 May. Ifjue, general, Bill of Grace to admit the pleading of it, read, 2 May. Committed, 6. Judgments, at Common Law, Bill for the Peace of the Subjects after obtaining them, read, 3 June. 18° & 19° Jac. I. Parl. 3. A. 1620 & 1621. JE OFAYLES, Bill for Reformation of them, read, 8 Feb. Committed, 2 May. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 24. Jermy, Lady, her Bill read, g Mar. Jernegan, Mr. Bill touching him, read, 7 Feb. Committed, * * . Reported, and to be ingrofled, g Mar. Jefuits. Vide Recufants. 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Conference defired by the Lords about it, 19 Apr. Committee appointed to manage it, and impowered to debate, eod. die. Report touching the Objections of the King’s Counfel to the Bill, and the Anfwer of one of the Managers for the Commons thereto, 21 Apr. Another Conference to be defired with the Lords thereon, and Committee appointed to prepare the Heads, eod. die. Conterence agreed to by the Lords, 24 Apr. Sub-committee appointed to debate thereat, eod. die. Conference reported, 26. Another Conference defired by the Lords, between the Sub-committees of both Houfes, and agreed to, 30 May. Report of fome Amendments pro- pofed by the Lords, and Refolutions and Order thereupon, eod. die. Bill fent from the Lords, with Amendments, 4 June. Amendments read, and referred to a Committee, 24 Nov. Bill to be new ingroffed, 28. A Precedent read, and Committee appointed, —~. Pore IN DEX @o the First VoLuME. appointed to examine the Bill, 29- Examination reported, 2 Dec. Lords to be defired to appoint a Committee to examine it, eod. die. Committee appointed to meet the Lords at a Con- ference thereon, and Precedent to be carried with them, eod. die. Report of the Conference, and of the Delivery of the Bill to the Lords, 3 Dec. Inmates. Vide Buildings. ; Inns, Oftries, and Alehoufes, Report touching the Patents for li- cenfing them, 27 Feb. Arguments touching the — of thefe Patents, 7 Mar. Vide Monperfon. Matter of the Ale- houfes to be reviewed, and Patentees, and others, to attend, 12 Mar. Debate and Refolution touching the Method of pro- ceeding, 21 Apr. Committee appointed to examine the Grievance, eod. die. King’s Meflage relating thereto, 24 Apr. Debate and Proceedings thereon, eod. die. Report touching the Patent and Proclamation, §c. concerning lehoufes, 11 May. ‘To be tranfmitted to the Lords, eod. die. Committee appointed to draw Bills for regulating Inns and Aiehoufes, 24 Apr. Impowered to fend for the Patent to the Clerk of the Market, 25.—Bill relating to Inns, read, 16 May. Committed, 28. Inguifitions. Vide Offices. Journal of the Houfe, Committee to perufe it, 10 & 13 Feb. 26 Mar. & 19 Dec. Ireland, Debate touching the Grievances thereof, and Committee appointed to enquire thereinto, 26 Apr. Perfons fent for to attend the Committee, 27. King’s Meffage touching this En- quiry, 30 Apr. Debate, and Meflage to the King thereupon, eod. die. His Anfwer reported, 1 May. - Debate, whether a Peer of Ireland can ferve in Parlia- ment, and Order thereupon, 21 Noy. Ir: Cattle. Vide Cattle. Ijue, general, Bill of Grace for pleading it, read, * *. Commit- ted, 18 May. Repofted, and to be ingroffed, 24. Paffed, 28. Sent to the Lords, 28 Nov. Jurors, infufficient, Bill to avoid the Return of them, read, 17 Mar. Debated, and committed, 19 Apr. Juftice, Courts of. Vide Courts. Jujtices of Peace, and other Officers, Bill to make perpetual an A& to avoid contentious Suits brought againft them, read, 14 Mar. Committed, 20. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 23 Pafied, 24 Apr. Petition concerning Choice of Juftices of the Peace, pre- fented, and referred to a Committee, 25 Apr. King to be moved to reform the Multitude of Juftices of Peace, 26. Lord Chancellor’s Anfwer to a former Motion, of the fame Nature, reported, eod. die. Lift of Juftices, in the feveral Shires, to be iven in, 28 Apr. King’s Meflage touching Clergymen being j uftices, and Debate thereupon, 1 May. 21° & 22° Jac. 1. Parl. 4. A. 1623 & 1624. JACOBSON, Philip, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize, him, 7 Apr. Read, 10. Committed, 15. Reported, 27. Paffed, 30. James, Sir Henry, Bill to affure divers of his Lands to Martin Lumley, and others, read, 2 Mar. Committed, 12. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 22. Paffed, 5 Apr. Sent from the Lords, with Amendments, 8 May. Amendments agreed to, 12. Jeofayles, Bill for Reformation thereof, read, 1 Mar. To be ingrofled, 8. Paffed, 16. Returned from the Lords, with Amendments, 22. Amendments agreed to, eod. die. Jermy, Lady, her Bill read, 5 Apr. Committed, 7. Jesuits, and Priefis, Information given of their fending great Sums of Money Abroad, 12 ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- eb. Committed, 9 Mar. Reported, and re-committed, 17. Informations, upon penal Laws, Bill for the Eafe of the Subje& therein, read, 24 Feb. to be ingroffed, 26. Paffed, 6 Mar. Inn-holders, and Hoftlers, Bill concerning them, prefented, and read, 3 Mar. Committed, 1 Apr. Reported, and to be in- grofled, 26. Pafled, 3 May. Inns, Bills concerning the new ereéting and ordering of them, prefented, and read, 3 Mar. Committed, 1 Apr. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 26. Paffed, 3 May. Inquifitions. Fide Offices, Journal, Committee appointed to perufe it every Week, 25 Feb. Motion about the Entry of Members Names therein before their Motions, 1 Mar. Committee of Privileges to confider of the an- cient Manner of making Eatries in the Journal, god. die, Mo- tion for the Cominittee for Perufal of the Journal, to have Power to ftrike out what they fhould think fit, 12 Mar. This Committee to examine Precedents, relating to the Manner of the Clerk’s making Entries, the Committee of Privileges not being at Leifure to attend, eod. die. To examine the Journal every Morning, 10 Apr. Ifjue, general, Bill for pleading it, read, 1 Mar. To be ingroffed, 4- Pafled,6. Sent from the Lords with Amendments, 7 Apr. Amendments read, and referred toa Committee, 23. Reported, and agreed to, eod. die. Judgments, given by the Lords, Committee to fearch Precedents of them, 14 May. Juftice, Courts of. Vide Courts. Jujftices of Peace, Bill to enable them to give Reftitution of Pof- feflion in certain Cafes, read, « *. To be ingrofied, 20 Mar. Paffed, 7 Apr. Bill againft troublefome Suits commenced againft Juftices of Peace, and other Officers, read, 14 Apr. Committed, 15, Reported, and to be ingroffed, 21. Paffed, 24. 1° & 2° Car. 1. Parl. 2. A. 1625 & 1626. ERMY, Sir Thomas, Bill to make void a Decree touching him, read, 28 Feb. Committed, 2 Mar. . Jesuits. Vide Recufanis and Religion. Impeachment. Vide Buckingham. Impofitions. Vide Grievances, and Wines. Inmates, and new Buildings, Bill for Reftraint of them, read, 24 Feb. Committed, 4 Mar. — _ concerning new-erecting and ordering of them, read, 7 Mar. Inquifitions. Vide Offices. Journal, Committee appointed to perufe it,10 Feb. A Leaf to. be taken out, where the Order relating to the Duke of Buck- ingham was entered, and anew one to be inferted, 4 Mar. Justice, Courts of. Vide Courts. 3°& 4° Car.I. Parl.3. Sess.1. A. 1627 & 1628. ESUITS. Vide Recufants, Impeachment. Vide Manwaring. Impofitions. Vide Brewers, Summer Iflands, Turky Company, and Wine-merchants, Commiffion concerning Impofitions to be brought to the Houfe, 6 & 7 June. Lord Keeper to be moved for a Sight of it,9. Delivered in, 11, Free Conference defired with the Lords thereupon, and agreed to, 13. Commiffion declared ille- gal, eod. die. Cancelled by the King, and fent from the Lords, to be viewed, and recorded, 19 June. Committee appointed to take care of the Entry eod. die. Imprifonment. Vide Prifons. Journal of the Houfe, Meflage from the Lords, defiring one to be brought, to be ufed at a Conference, and Anfwer thereto, 17 Apr. Committee appointed to furvey the Journal, eod. die. Judges. Vide Heveningham. Jufiice, Courts of. Vide Courts. 4° Carl.1. Parl. 3. Sess. 2. A. 1628. ERMY, Sir Thomas, Bill to make void a Decree touching him, read, 11 Feb. Jones, Mr. a Printer, to be heard by Counfel, upon his E.xcep- tions to the Bifhop of Chichefter’s Confirmation, 3, 4 & 6 Feb. Heard 9. ° Journal, Committee to perufe it weekly, 30 Jan. Jujflice, Courts of. Vide Courts. 1° Edw. VI. Parl... Sess. 1. A. 1547. K ING. Vide Aés of Parliament.—Bill from the Lords, for Affurance of Lands to him by the Earl of Rutland, read, 13 and 14 Dec. Pafled, 17. 3° & 4° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sess.3. A. 1549. ING, gives the Houfe Leave to treat of a Releafe of the Subfidy upon Cloths and Sheep, 30 Nov. Vide Subfidy. 5° & ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ning it, 4. —touching Irith Servitors, 16.—for the Houfe to attend him, at Whitehall, 30.—touehing the Proceedings of the Houfe, 5 June. His Letter, refufing the Subfidy, and Motion for recording it, 26. His Anfwer to the Meflage from the Houfe, upon his receiving a Hurt in his Foot, 28 June. Prefents the Houfe with a Buck, and a Hogfhead of Wine, at their Feaft, Vou. I. 4 3 Jniy- Sends for a Lift of Bills paffed both Houfes, 5.~ -for the Houfe to attend him at the Lords, 6. Motion touching certain Maxims of the Law, concerning the King’s Grants, and Committee to confider of an Ex- planation thereof, 26 Mar. Bill from the Lords, for affigning certain Sums for the Charge of the King’s Houfhold, 19 May. Read, 21. Com- mitted, 31. Reported to be imperfect, and a new Bill to be brought in, 16 June. Bill read twice, and committed, 18. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 21. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 23. Bill from the Lords, for annexing certain of the King’s Poffeffions infeparably to the Crown, 4 July. Read twice, and committed, eod. die. thesis 5 July. Conference to be held with the Lords thereon, and Committee appointed to manage it, eod. die. Report, 6 July. Debate thereon, and Bill to fleep, eod. die. Meflage to the Lords, to that Purpofe, eod. die. 3° & 4° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Seff: 2. A. 1605, & 1606. KERSEYS, Bill to repeal an Act 14 Eliz. concerning the Length of them, read, 4 Feb. Committed, 5. Motion for inferting it in the Bill of Clothing, 12. Bill oo. and to be ingroffed, 19 Mar. Paffed, 25. Sent to the Lords, 26. King, Committee to confider of a Bill for Security of his Perfon, 22 Jan. His Meffage concerning the Proceedings of the Houfe touching Religion, 29.—concerning the Proceeding in regard to the Subfidy, 11 Feb.—touching Supply, and Pur- veyance, 8 Mar. Detires to know the Succeis of his laft Meflage, 10. His Meflage, concerning an Addition to the Supply, granted, and concerning Grievances, 18. Another Meflage, upon the granting of One Subfidy, and Two Fifteeng, more, 19. A Rumour of his being killed, and feveral Members fent thereupon, to know the ‘Truth, 22. Thanks the Houfe for their Concern about him, 24. His Meflage touching the Letter propofed to be fent to the Sheriffs, for recalling abfent Members, 3 Apr. His Anfwer to the Petition of Grievances reported, 15 May.—to the Petitions touching the Execution of the Laws againft Jefuits, and concerning ecclefiaftical Grievances, 16. Sends for the Speaker, 26. His Anfwer to the Complaint touching Parker’s Sermonat St, Paul’s, eod. die. Anfwers the Speaker’s Speech, 27 May. King’s Counfel, of the Houfe, not to be of Counfel in the Bill of Attainders, 10 Apr. 4° & 5° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Sef: 3. A. 1606, & 1607. KING, his Speech at the opening of the Seffion, 18 Nov. His Meflage, touching an Adjournment of both Houfes, 18 Dec. Taxes the Neglect of the Houfe, in not in- terrupting and punifhing Sir Chr. Pigott, for an invective a 16 Feb. His Metflage touching the Attendance of the embers, 27. Appoints the Houfe to attend him at White- hall, 30 Mar.& 1 May. His Speeches at Whitehall, touching the Union, 31 Mar. & 2 May. His Meffage touching Freedom of Speech, 7 May.—touching a Report of Violences on the Borders, 19.—about an Adjournment by his Order, 27. His Letter touching a Claufe offered to the Bill of hoftile Laws, — remanding of Malefactors, 2 June. Committee of Pri- vileges to confider of the Entry thereof, 16. Report, and or- dered not to be entered, 18. King’s Meflage touching another Claufe in the fame Bill, for allowing Criminals to be Witnefles, 4 June.—touching the Petition concerning Recufants, 16 & 18. Sends for the Speaker to Whitehall, 4 July. Bill for fpeedy Payment of the King’s Debts, read, 6 Mar. Committed, 2 May. 7° & 8 Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Seff: 4. A. 1609, & 1610. ARR E, Sir Robert, Bill to naturalize him, read, 16 Feb, Committed, 20. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 22. Paffed, 1 Mar. Sent to the Lords, 2. Keere, Sir George, Bill for his Naturalization, read, 16 Apr. Committed, 24. Keported, 30 June. To be ingroffed, 2 July. Paffed, 10. Sent to the Lords, 17. Kembers. Vide Clothing. Kendalls. Vide Cogwares. King, his Anfwer to the Meffage touching Sir Stephen Prodtor, reported, 8 Mar. Vide Proéter.—to the Meflage concerning Tenures,14. Vide Tenures. His — of Thanks to the Houfe for their Proceedings ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- te to Weftminfter Abby, 30 Jan. His Letter to the Speaker, about adminiftering the Communion in St. Mar- garet’s Weftminfter, read, g Feb. His Anfwer to the Meflage about Dr. Uther’s preaching thereat, 12.—to the Meflage con- cerning the Stay of Ordnance ready to be iranfported, 13. His Meffage touching Freedom of Speech, 15. Delivered in Writ- ing, and to be entered in the Journal, eod. die. His Meflage of Thanks, upon the granting of Two Subfidies, 16 Feb. To be reduced into Writing, and Copies delivered of it, 17. His Mef- fage touching the Ring Lottery, and Anfwer thereto, 26.—de- firing the Houfe to put off a Conference with the Lords, upon account of the Subfidy Bill, delivered by Mr. Attorney, 10 Mar. Manner of receiving it, and Anfwer thereto, eod. die. King’s Meflage of Thanks thereupon, 12 Mar. Thanks tobe given him for it, and Meflage to be fet down in Writing, eod. die. Delivered in, 13 Mar. King’s Anfwer to the Meffage of Thanks from the Houfe, reported, eod. die. His Meflage of Thanks to the Houfe, for reje&ting Waltham Foreft Bill, 19 Mar.—for patling the Subfidy Bill, ecd. die.— His Meflage touching an Adjournment, and the Charge againft the Lord Chancellor, eod. die. Thanks to be given him for this Meflage, eod. die. His Meflage touching Bills of Confor- mity, and Protections, 20 Mar. "To be fet down in Writing, and entered in the Journal, and Thanks to be given him for it, eod. die. King gives the royal Affent to Bills by Com- miffion, 22 Mar. Another Meflage, touching Bills of Con- formity, and Thanks thereupon, 23. His Speech, touching Patents and Monopolies, reported from a Conference with the Lords, 27. Houfe to attend, and give him Thanks for it, eod. die. Queftion, for defiring a Copy of it, difagreed to, eod. die. His Meflage, directing both Houtes to attend him, 18 Apr.—about the Proceedings concerning the Patent for Ale- houfes, 24.—concerning Highways, 26.—touching the Pro- ceedings in relation to the Grievances of Ireland, 30. Thanks to be given him for the laft Meflage, eod. die. His Anfwer thereto reported, 1 May. Thanks the Houfe for their Re- fpeét, in fending to the Lord Admiral about the Light-houfes, eod. die. His Meflage concerning Sir Geo. Marfhall, and the Proceedings about Baronets and Juftices of Peace, and Anfwer thereto, eod. die—touching the Proceedings of the Houfe againft Floyd, 2 May. Vide Floyd.—touching another Ad- journment, 28. Another Meffage to both Houfes touching the fame, communicated at a Conference, reported, 2 June. His Anfwer to the Meflage from both Houfes thereupon, and the Petitions concerning Trade, Money, and Ordnance, re- _ ported, 4. Sends Commiffions for adjourning the Parliament, 4 June, 14 Nov. & 19 Dec. His Meffage to both Houfes, concerning the Palatinate, to be delivered at a Conference, 20 Nov. Vide Palatinate. His Letter to the Speaker, about First VoLuMeE. the Petition concerning Religion, read, 4 Dec. His Meflage concerning the Proceedings againft Goldfmith, 7. Vide Coke, Sir Edward.—commanding the Houfe to proceed with Bills, 12.—To be delivered in Writing, and confidered in a Committee of the whole Houfe, eod. die. His Anfwer to the Declaration concerning the Liberties of the Houfe, reported, and Copies of it to be delivered, 14 Dec. His Meflage touch- ing the rifing of the Parliament, and the Bill of Pardon, eod. die. His Letter, touching the Privileges of the Houfe, read, and to be entered, 17 Dec.—touching an Adjournment of the Sefion, read, and Thanks to be given him thereon, 18. Meffage of Thanks read, and to be delivered, eod. die. Bill for Payment of the King’s Revenues into the Ex- chequer, prefented, 8 Feb. Bill of Grace, for Relief of the King’s Tenants, in cafe of Forfeiture for Non-payment of Rent, prefented, g Mar. Read, 13. Committed, « «x. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 24 May. Pafled, 29. Sent to the Lords, 28 Nov.—Bill for their Eafe in pleading of Alienations, &c. prefented, and read, 15 Mar. Vide Alienations. 21° & 22° Jac. I. Parl. 4.. A. 1623, & 1624. “EEPER, Lord, King’s Meflage touching him, 1 Mar. Report from Committee for Courts of Juftice, concerning feveral Complaints againft him, and Proceedings thereon, 14 Apr. 7. 19. & 27, May. King, orders a Commiflion to be drawn for adjourning the Parlia- ment, upon account of the fudden Death of the Duke of Len- nox, 16 Feb. Ridesin State to Weftminfter Abby, 19. Purport of his Speech to both Houfes, at the opening of the Seffion, eod. die. Direéts the Houfe to chufe a Speaker, eod. die. His An- fwer to the Addrefs for a general Faft reported, 23 Feb. His Meffage, coneerning the Treaties about the Prince’s Marriage, and the Palatinate, to be delivered by the Lord Ad- miral and the Two Secretaries at a Conference, eod.dic. Vide Treaties. His Meflage about the Petitions againtt the Lord Keeper, 1 Mar. ‘To be entered in the Journal, 12. State of his Debts reported, 11. Conference defired by the Lords, in relation thereto, agreed to, and held, eod. die. Report, 12 Mar. King defires a Committee of both Houfes to attend him at another time, being indifpofed, 23. His Meflage about the Merchant-adventurers Books, 8 Apr. Purport of his Let- ter to the Speaker, touching the Lord Treafurer, 16. His Mei- fage touching fome Heads for the Pardon, 24. His An- {wer to the Petition concerning Recufants, reported, and to be entered in the Journal, eod. die. His Letter, concerning the Virginia Petition, read, 29 Apr. His Order about the Procla- mation againft Recutants, 1 May. His Meflage about the Sub- fidy Bill, eod. die—about ending the Seffion, reported from a Conference, 19 May. His Content to the Parliament's fitting a Week longer, fignified, 20. Appoints the Houfe to attend him with the Grievances, 27. His Anfwer thereto reported, 29. Re-delivcred to the Reporter, and no Copies to be made of it, eod. die. Bill from the Lords, for Confirmation of a Judgment given for the King againft Henry Heron, 4 May. Vide Heron. Bill for Relief of the King’s Tenants, in cafe of For- feiture for Non-payment of Rent, read, 1 Mar. Committed, 10. Reported, and to be ingroffed, eod. die. Paffed, 17 Mar. Bill from the Lords, tor Prefervation of the King’s Re- venue, 26 May. 1° Cer. I. Parl. 1. A. 1625. ING, his Meflage about the Grievances of the former Par- liament, 22 June. Vide Grievances. His Meflage about ending the Seflion, on account of the Sicknefs, communicated at a Conference, 4 July. His Meflage of Thanks for the Two Subfidies, and touching the State of his Difburfements, 8. His Anfwer to the Petition concerning Religion, reported, 9 July, & g Aug. His Meflage touching the Attendance of the Mem- bers, and the Proceedings againft Mr. Mountague, g July. His Anfwer to the Wine Petition, reported, eod. die. Seuds a Commiffion for giving the royal Affent to Bills, and another for adjourning the Parliament, 11 July. His Meflage touching the fpeedy meeting of the Parliament for Supply, eod. die. Appoints both Houfes to attend him, 4 Aug. His Meflage, concerning the Profecution of the War, delivered to both Houfes ata Conference, 9. His Meffage, to haftenthe Supply, 10. Debate thereupon, and Committee of the whole Houle to confider of an Anfwer, eod. die. . King’s Bench Prifoners, Motion touching them, on account of the Sicknefs, and Refolution thereon, 6 Aug. 1° & 2 Car. 1. Parl. 2. A. 1625, & 1626, ING, his Meffage about Sir Edward Coke’s Ele¢tion for Norfolk, 10 Feb. Vide Coke, Sir Edward. His Mefiage, defiring INDEX @o th First Votumes. defiring a Supply, 10 Mar. Vide Supply. His Meflage about Mr. Coke, and Dr. Turner, 14. Vide Coke, and Turner.— Sends for the Houfe, to attend him at Whitehall, 28 Mar. Matters, propounded by the King and Lord Keeper, confidered, in a Committee of the whole Houfe, 30. Conference defired by the Lords, to explain fome Things in the King’s Speech, agreed to, and held, eod. die. Report, 31 Mar. & 1 Apr. Grand Committee to confider of the Explanation, 1 Apr. Remonfirance thereon reported, and to be ingroffed, 4. Agreed to, and to be prefented to the a and Committee to attend him therewith, 5. Report touching the Delivery thereof, eod die. King’s Meffage, defiring the Houfe to ad- journ, eod.die. Proceedings in the French Treaties opene ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- delivered, 4. ‘To be os into Writing, and entered in the Journal, eod. die. The Two Mefflages delivered in Writing, and read, 7 Apr. His Anfwer to the Meffage of Thanks, reported, eod. die——to the particu- lar Articles of the Petition concerning Jefuits, &c. delivered, and Thanks returned for it, eod.die. His Meflage, defiring there may be no Recefs at Eafter, 10 Apr. Vide Adjournment. Appoints the Houfe to attend him at Whitehall, 11. His De- elaration to both Houfes, delivered by the Lord Keeper, brought in, and read, and any Members to have Copies of it, 28. Another Meflage delivered, 1 May. Committee of the whoie Houfe to confider of an Anfwer, 2. Anfwer reported, and to be prefented by tne Speaker, eod. die. Another Meffage deli- vered, eod. die. Tobe brought in Writing, eod die. Deli- vered in, and confidered by a Committee of the whole Houfe, 3 May. Draught of a Meffage, in Anfwer thereto, reported, and agreed to, and to be prefented by the Speaker, eod. die. King to be moved for Accefs, eod. die. a prefented, 5 May. To be delivered to the Clerk, eod die. King’s Aniwer thereto to be fet down in Writing, and brought to the Houfe, cod. die. Delivered in, and read, eod. die. Copy of it to be fent to the Clerk, with the Speaker’s Meflage to the King, eod. die. Meflage, and Anfwer, confidered in a Committee of the whole Houfe, 6 May. King’s Meflage, to haften the Subfidy Bill, 13. His Anfwer, touching the Turkey and Freuch Mer- chants, 19. Meflage, to fpeed the Bufinefs of the Houfe, eod. die. Appoints both Houtes to attend him with the Petition of Right, 28 “ Detires there may be no Recefs at Whit- funtide, 29. to be confidered, 3 June. Meflage from him, delivered by the Speaker, 4. Another Meflage delivered, 5. Confidered, in a Committee of the whole Houfe, and Refolution thereupon, eod. die. His Meflage, to forbear Proceedings till the next Day, eod. die. Another Mefflage, and Refolution thereon, 6 June. His Anfwer to the Petition of Right, in full Parliament, 7. His Meflage touching the Enrolment of it, and Thanks re- turned him thereon, 10. Allows further Time for both Houfes to fit, eod. die. Refufes to permit the Attorney-general to fend Heads of the Pardon,17 June. His Meflage i ie Sir Edm. Sawyer, delivered, 21.—about proroguing the Parliament, 23. His Speech at the Prorogation, 26. ——_—— Remonftrance, touching the State of the King and King- dom, to be drawn, 3 June. Vide Remonftrance. Vou. I. is Anfwer to the Petition of Right, read, and, Kirke, George, Efq. Vide Gray. Kirton, Mr. Refolution touching certain Words ufed by him, in his Speech, 6 June. 4° Car. 1. Parl. 3. Seff.2. A. 1628. ING, his or to forbear Debate about the Seizure of Merchants Goods, till he fhould have {poke to both Houfes, 23 Jan. Copy of his Speech delivered in, and read, 26. His Anfwer to the Meffage for Stay of fome Ships preparing to go to Spain, reported, 27. Meffage about fpeeding the Bill of Tonnage and Poundage, 28. Heads of an Aniwer thereto agreed on, and Committee to pen it, eod. die. Draught of it reported, 29 Jan. Agreed to, and to be ingroffed, 30. Com- mittee appointed to attend the King therewith, 31. His An- fwer reported, 3 Feb.—His Anfwer to the Petition for a Faft reported, go Jan. Meflages delivered from him, 23 Feb. & 2 Mar. Houfe adjourned, upon his Order, 25 Feb. Bill from the Lords, for Prefervation of the King’s Revenue, 31 Jan. Read, 7 Feb. King’s Printer, fent for, and examined, touching the printing of the Petition of Right, 21 Jan. Vide Petition of Right. 1° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Seffi1. A. 1547. L A WS, Bill for Reformation thereof, read, 30 Nov. & 3 Dec. Debate thereupon, 5 Dec. Letters Patents, Bill from the Lords, for Confirmation thereof, read, 22 Nov. 2 & 6 Dec. Paffed,12 Dec. Lumley, Lord, Bill from the Lords, for his Reftitution, read, 19 Dec. Read twice, and paffed, 20. Lynn, Town of, Bill relating thereto, read, 10 & 16 Dec. 2°& 3° Edw. VI. Parl.1. Sef.2. A. 1548. ANCASTER, Duchy of, Provifo from the Lords, touching Chauntry Lands annexed thereto, read, 14 & 15 Feb. Paffed, 16. Latymer, Mr. the Lord Proteétor to be defired to reftore him to the Bifhoprick of Worcetter, 9 Jan. ’ Law, Bill touching Procefs therein, read, and committed, 26 Nov. Read Second time, 7 Dec.—New Bill read, and committed, 15 Jan. Read a Second time, 15 Feb. Paffed, 8 Mar. Bill for Orders to be had in the Common Law, read, 1 Dec. Lawfon, Edmund, Bill from the Lords, touching him, read twice, 14 Mar. Laymen. Vide Priefis. . Lazarmen, Bill relating to them, read, 5 & 8 Jan. Leafes, Bill for Rents referved thereupon, read, 8 Jan. Com- mitted, 11. Leather, Bill for true tanning thereof, read, 21 Feb. & g Mar. Paffed,11 Mar. Vide Curriers. Lent. Vide Flefh. Letters Patents, Bill for Surrender of them by Patentees, read, 28 Feb. Lincoln, Bill for Union of Churches there, read, 4 & 13 Dec. Committed, 8 Jan.—New Bill read, 17 Jan. Paffed, 24. London, Bill for Enrolment of Deeds, with Proclamation, there, read, 4 Dec. 3° & 4° Edw. Vi. Parl.1. Sef. 3. A. 1549. LANDS, demetne, let by Copy of Court Roll, Bill for them to be as cuftomary Lands, read, 11 & 13 Dec. Bill for demeine Lands, and Lands in Right of the Wife, to be let by Copy for Three Lives, read, 20 Jan. Committed, Ki as Laws, ecclefiaftical, Bill for Adminiftration of them by Students of the Univerfities, read, 14 Nov. To beingroffed, 18. Paffed, 3 Dec. Bill, for th ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t of, Bill to ratify the Keys and Wharfs there, read; 19 Apr. Committed, 20June. Reported, and Counfel to be heard, 26. Loffe, Thomas, Bill for Sale of Lands, read, 30 Apr. Rejected, 3 May. Lovell, Thomas, Efg; Bill from the Lords, for his Relief, 28 June. Read,29 & 30. Counfel to be heard, 30. Heard, and Bill committed, 2 July. Reported, with Amendments, and paffed, 4. Sent to the Lords, 5. Lucas, Thomas, Bill from the Lords, for his Reftitution, 2 Apr Read, 3. Committed, 12. Reported, 13. Pafied,17. Sent to the Lords, 18. Edward, Bill to repeal an Aét 43 Eliz. relating to him, read, 17 Apr. Committed, 25. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 11 May. Lonel and Hemp-feed, Bill for fowing thereof, read, and rejected, 20 June. . 3° & 4° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Seff 2. A. i605 & 1606: LAKE, Sir Thomas, Bill to confirm Lands to him and his Wife, read, 24 Jan. Committed, 25. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 7 Feb. Pafled, 11. Lands, or Tenements, Bill touching Bonds made for Affurance thereof, read, 28 Jan. Committed, 29. Reported, and dafhed, 22 Feb. : Bill to reduce to the Crown the Inheritance of Lands given by the King, in Default of Heirs of the Donees, read, 14 Apr. Rejected, go. Laws, Penal. Vide Statutes. Leajes, Bill for Confirmation of them againft Patentees of In- heritance, prefented, and read, 22 Jan. Committed, 23. Reported, and to ees 7 Mar. Lee River. Vide London. Leigh, Sir Robert, a Juftice of Peace, complained of, and fen for by the Serjeant, for refufing Bail fora Member's Servants, 18 Feb. Report touching him, and to be heard by N Counfel, — IN DEX ¢@o the First VotumMe. Counfel, 19. Heard, 21. Cenfured, 22. Makes Submiffion, and is difcharged, eod. die. Leneux, Duke of. Vide Alnage. Linen Cloth, Bill for true making thereof, read, and rejected, o Jan. Lioyd, Mr. committed for ferving a Subpcena upon Sir Richard Bulkley, 20 May. Logwood, alias Blockwood, Article of Grievance touching it, read, and agreed to, 9 Apr. Bill concerning it, read, 26 Apr. To fleep, 23 May. London, Bill for bringing Water thither from the River Lee, or Uxbridge, read, 30 Jan. Committed,31. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 16 May. Paffed, 20. Order touching a Re- compence to be made to Captain Colthirft, eod. die. Bill fent to the Lords, with a Meffage concerning him, 22 May. Re- turned, with Amendments, 26. Amendments agreed to, eod. die. Lord’s-day. Vide Sunday. Lords, Houfe of, fearched, and divers Perfons apprehended for a Confpiracy to blow it up, 5 Nov. Vide Plot. 4 & 5° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Sef 3. A. 1606 & 1607. [4 BOURERS, and Servants, Motion for a Committee to confider of Provifion to reform them, not affented to, 19 Nov. Bill, for that Purpofe, to be drawn, eod. die. Tachelade, Manor. Vide Bathurf: Lake, Sir Thomas, Letter from Sir Hugh Loffe, and others, touching a Bond entered into by him for performing the Con- ditions of an Act, pafled the preceding Seflion, read, and Order thereupon, 26 Nov. Laws, hoftile. Vide Union. Lawyers, of the Houfe, not to go out of Town without Leave, 29 Nov. Leather, Bill to explain an A& touching Tanners, and other Ar- tificers therein, read, 6 Dec. Committed,9. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 14 Mar. Counfel to be heard thereon, 27 . & 31. Bill read Third time, and Counfel heard, 1 May. Paffed, * # . Sent to the Lords, 12 May. Bill from the Lords, to reftrain the Ufe of Leather made of Horfe-hides, or Hog-fkins, 30 June. Read twice, and committed, 1 July. Reported, 2. Read the Third time, and dathed, eod. die. Letters Patents, Bill to confirm them, upon Compofitions made with the Crown, read, 5 May. Committed, 15. Bill from the Lords, to confirm Letters Patents and Grants of Copyhold Lands belonging to the Crown, 29 June. Read, 30. Logwood, Bill to abolifh it, read, 21 Feb. Rejeéted, 26.—New ill read, 10 Mar. 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Landaph, Bithop of, Report from the Committee for Courts of Juftice, touching a Charge of Corruption againft him, 15 Mar. Further Report,17. Charge to be prefented to the Lords, eod. die. His Letters to be fent to them, 20 Mar. Committee appointed to draw up a Meflage to the Lords concerning him, 14 May. Meflage reported, and agreed to, and to be tent to the Lords, but not to be delivered in Writing, 16. Their Anfwer reported, eod. die. Meflage from the ‘Lords, touch- ing their Cenfure of him, 30 May. Vide Damport. Larceny, petit, Bill for punifhing Offenders therein, read, 5 May. Lawyers, Committee to confider of Regulations for them, 27 Apr. phos Sir John, expelled for fitting in the Houfe, not having taken the Oaths, 10 Feb. Leicefterfhire Election, Report concerning it, 7 Feb. Counfel to be heard, and High Sheriff and Under Sheriff to attend, 8. Directions given to the Counfel by the Speaker, 9. Counfel heard, eod. die. Retolution thereon, eod. die. Return of Sir Geo. Haftings to be brought to the Clerk of the Crown, eod.die. High Sheriff and Under-fheriff brought to the Bar as Delinquents, and examined, eod. die. High Sheriff cen- fured, and pardoned, eod. die. Under-fheriff pardoned, eod. die. Sheriffs to be fent for by the Serjeant,10 Feb. High Sheriff examined, touching the not returning of Sir Geo. Haftings’s Indenture, fealed by the Freeholders, and Order thereupon, 12. Sir Tho. Beaumond fent for by the Serjeant, for threatening the Sheriff, eod. die. Petition from Sir Tho. Beaumond, read, 16 Feb. Indenture delivered in, eod. die. Sheriff and Sir Tho. Beaumond difcharged, paying Fees, eod. die. Clerk of the Crown to bring the Writ, eod. die. De bate about amending the Return, 17 Feb. Lepton, INDEX ¢@ the Frast VoLume. Leptor, Mr. ordered to bring in his Patent for fole making of Bills and Letters, 22 Mar. Several Petitions againtt him deli- vered in, 2 May. To attend the Committee of Grievances, eod. die. Report touching his Patent, 14 May. - His Petition to be heard by Counfel, rejected, eod. die. Patent condemned, eod. die.“ Complaint againft him, for a Confpiracy againft Sir Edw. Coke, 24 Nov. Vide Coke. To be proceeded — for executing his Patent after it was condemned, and a Warrant to the Serjeant to apprehend him, 29. To attend at the Access of the Houfe, 19 Dec. Letter, dire&ed to the Houfe, and found in Weftminfter Hall, roduced, and read, 11 May. Committee to. perufe it, and Rapes of the Purport of it, eod. die—Report, touching Two other Letters delivered to the Speaker, 26 Nov. Letter pro- duced, eod. die. Letters Patent, Bill for confirming them, read, and rejected, 25 Apr. ions Sir Stephen, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize him, 15 Feb. Read, « *. Committed, 17 Mar. Reported, 19. Paffed, 19 Apr. Liberty of Speech. Vide Privileges. Licences to beg, Bill to punifh Abufes therein, read, * *. Com- mitted, 22 Nov. Light-houfes, at Dungeonneffe and W interdenneffe, Debate about them, 27 eb. Patents to be brought to the Committee upon the Bill touching Sea-marks, and Patentees to be heard by Counfel, eod. die. To be brought to the Committee of Griev- ances, g Mar. Patentees to take no Fees, till the Caufe de- termined, and to be heard by Counfel in the Houfe, 19, Order for Non-payment of Fees fufpended, 20. Counfel heard, and Debate touching thefe Patents, 21. Petition of the Trinity- houfe, read, 22. Further Debate, 26. Petition from the Cinque Ports, read, eod. die. Seleét Committee to confider of the Patents, eod. die. Report, and Patents condemned, 18 Apr. Lord Admiral to be acquainted therewith, eod. die. His Anfwer reported, 1 May. Limitations, Billof. Vide Aéiions. Litehfield, Bifhop of. Vide Coventry. Little, William, and Abigail, Bill to naturalize them, read, 15 Mar. Committed, 8 May. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 14. Lloyd, Edward. Vide Floyd. Lobfers, and Salmon, Patent, for fole importing of them, to be confidered by the Committee of Grievances, 18 Apr. Report, and Patent condemned, 25. - Logwood, Bill relating thereto, read, g & 12 Mar. Patents to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, 2 May. Lord’s-day. Vide Sunday. Lucy, Thomas, Bill to revive his Will, read, 25 May. Lumley, Sir Richard, Bill to fell Lands, read,6 Mar. Commit- ted, 19. Reported, and to beingroffed, 22. Paffed,1 May. Lydall, Sir Richard. Vide Merchants. 21° & 22° Jac. 1. Parl. 4. A. 1624 & 1625. [4M BE, Dr. Complaint againft him, referred to Com- mittee for Courts of Juftice, 3 May. Report, and Order thereon, 22. Lancafter Gaol. Vide Patents. Land, arable, Bill againft converting it into Pafture, read twice, and committed, 24 Mar. Larceny, petty, Bill for Punifhment thereof, read, 25 Mar. Com- mitted, 8 May. Laws, penal. Vide Informations, and Monopolies. Lead Ore, Bill concerning Tythe thereof, read, 9 Apr. Com- mitted, 17. Reported, and rejected, 12 May. Patent for making red Lead, to be brought to the Com- mittee of Grievances, and Patentee to attend, 29 Apr. Leétures, in Divinity. Vide Whettenhall. Lent, Proclamation, for keeping it, to be contfidered by the Com- mittee of Grievances, 13 May. Report, 26. Lefeur, Sir Stephen, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize him, 7 Apr. Read, 9. Twice read, and paffed, 12. Little, William, and Abigail, Bill to naturalize them, read, 19 Apr. To be ingroffed, 20. Paffed, 28. Litchfield, Bithop of. Vide Coventry. London, Lord Mayor of, to take into Confideration the Abufes of nnd 19 Apr.—To confider of Mr. Pecke’s Petition, 25 May. Lords. Vide Meffages.—Motion for the Speaker’s Warrant for the Sight of fome Records at the Lords, 13 Apr. Records to be brought to a Committee, eod. die—Committee appointed to fearch Precedents of Judgments given by the Lords, upon Complaint of the Commons, 14 May. Lord’s-day. Vide Sunday. ' Lovell, Mr. complained of for undue Practices about the Elec- _ tion for Blechingley, 22 Mar. Sent for by the Serjeant, and declared incapable of being elected, eod. die. Examined, and committed to the Tower, 3 Apr. His Petition tendered, 9. — 4 be brought to the Bar, 10. Difcharged, 12. OL, Lowe, Vincent, Bill to enable him to fell Lands, read, 10 Apy, Committed, 12. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 1 May, Paffed, 4: Lumiley, Sir Richard, Bill from the Lords, for Sale of his Lands, 18 Mar. Read, 22. Committed, 23. Reported, with an - Amendment of a Letter, 19 Apr. Amendment to be prefented in Writing, eod. die. Bill pafled, 24 Apr. | Lydail, Sir Richard, to bring in his Bonds taken from the Sta- plers,g Apr. Cenfured, for executing the Patent concerning them, 26 May. 1° Car. I. Parl. 1. A. 1625. ARCENY, petty, Bill for punifhing it, read, 9 July. Committed, 6 Aug. London, Meflage from a Lords, touching fome Propofitions for Relief thereof, 10 Aug. Propofitions communicated at a Conference, 11. Lord’s-day. Vide Sunday. 1° & 2°Car. 1. Parl.2. A. 1625 & 1626. LABOURERS, Bill for more fpeedy Payment of their Wages, ordered, 2 Mar. Lambert, Lady, Bill to reverfe a Decree between her and J.ord Roberts, read, 3 June, Rejected, 9. Leather, tanned, Bill to change the Market-day for Sale thereof at Leaden-hall, read, 6 Mar. Leicefterfhire, High Sheriff of, Petition againft him, for undue Proceedings in the Election, 25 Mar. To be fent for by the Serjeant, eod. die. Warrants ordered for Witnefles, 15 Apr. Committee to examine the Complaint, 26. Order for making the Report, 3 May. Report made, eod. die. Sheriff repri- manded, and difcharged, 4 May. i Proclamations for it to be prefented as a Grievance, 25 May. komt Company. Vide Turkey. Levett, John, Bill for Relief of John Porter, his Guardian, — a Decree in Chancery, read twice, and committed, 11. ay. Lewis, Morgan, a Schoolmatter, fufpeéted of Popery, fent for to the Committee for Religion, 1 May. Report touching him, 10 June. To be pevhcane: e' and difcharged, eod. die. ° Liberties, of the Houfe. Vide Privileges. Lincoln, Bithop of, Report touching Mr. Grimfdich’s Complaint againft him, 11 May. Inhabitants of, Letter touching Articles, delivered by the Clerks of Aflize to the High Conftables, &c. read, and referred to the Committee of Grievances, 6 June. Litchfield. Vide Freyford. Littleton, Sir Thomas, Bill to fettle a Jointure upon his Wife, read,1 June. Committed, 9. Lords, their Meffengers difmitfed without Anfwer, 10 June. Lord’s-day. Vide oe: Lowe, Vincent, Bill from the Lords, for Sale of Lands, 25 Feb. Read, 27. Committed, 1 Mar. Reported, 3. Ludgerfall Eleétion, and double Return, Report touching it, and new Writ ordered for one of the Burgefles, 10 Mar. 3°& 4° Car.I. Parl. 3. Seffi1. A. 1627 & 1628. AW, martial, Commission for it declared illegal, 7 May. Refolution referred to Committee upon the Petition of Right, eod. die. Leafes, made by Tenants in Fee-tail, and Men feifed in Right of their Wives, or Churches, Bill for confirming them, read, 4 June. Letter, found under the Door, Committee to examine it, 23 June. Report touching it, eod. die. Sealed up, and fent to the King, eod. die. Letters, Vide Grievances. Levant Merchants. Vide Turkey. a ee Levefton, Alexander, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize him, 26 Apr. Read, 28. Committed, 7 May. Reported,13. Pafled, 19. Levett, Mr. his Petition read, and rejected, 19 Apr. Petition againft him read, 27 May. To attend with his Patent for a Toll at Two Bridges in Yorkshire, eod. die. Committee ap- pointed to examine it, 12 June. Report, and Patent con- demned, 20. Committee to draw a Petition to the King thereon, eod. die. 1h" Lewes Eleétion, and double Return, Report concerning it; 29 Mar. Confideration thereof adjourned, eod. die. New Writ ordered, 1 May. Liberty of the Subjeé, in Perfon and Eftate, Committee of the whole Houfe to confider thereof, 24 Mar.& 2 Apr. Refolu- tions of the Committee, touching Imprifonment of the Sub- je, the granting of Writs of Habeas Corpus, the Bailment of Prifoners, and the Property of Goods, reported, and agreed to, 3 Apr. — eS ES Se ee Re ee ee INDE X @ the 4 Apr. Further Report, touching prefling of Soldiers, and Defignation to Foreign Employments, eod. die. Committee appointed, to frame a Bill concerning the I wo laft Heads, eod. die. Another feleét Committee appointed, to coufider of the other Matters relating to the Liberty of the Subject, and the Propriety of their Goods, eod. die. Report, and Conference to be defired with the Lords thereupon, 4 Apr. Conference agreed to, and Managers appointed, 7. Arguments ufed by the Ma- nagers to be brought in, and entered in the J ournal, 14 Apr. Delivered in, 23 Apr. & 7 May. Copies and Originals, to be Lronght by the Clerk, 5 May. Conference detired by the Lords, touching the laft Conference, agreed to, 16. Another Conference defired by the Lords, and agreed to,17._ Meflage from the Lords, defiring the Journal of the Houfe 19 Jac. to be brought to the Conference, and Antwer thereto, eod. die. Con- ference reported, 21 Apr. Meflage to the Lords thereupon, 22. Another Conference, defired by the Lords, agreed to, and Committee appointed to manage it, 23. Held, and reported, eod. die. Mellage tent to the Lords thereupon, 24 Apr. An- other Conference detired by the Lords thereon, held, and reported, 25. Propofitions made by the Lords, to be de- bated in a Committee of the whole Houfe, eod. die. King’s Declaration by the Lord Keeper, delivered in, and read, 28 Apr. Committee to frame a Bill containing the Subftance of Mesie Charta, and other Statutes, concerning the Liberty of the Subjeét, eod. die. Meflage to be fent to the Lords, to acquaint them therewith, eod. die. Vide Peiition of Right. Lieutenants, Committee to draw a Bill for regulating their Power in relation to the finding of Arms, and prefling of Soldiers, 24 Mar. All Complaints againft Deputy-lieutenants about billet- ing of Soldiers, or other Charges, to be examined by the Com- mittee appointed for Surrey, 3 Apr. Report touchinga Com- plaint from Taunton, againft Sir Jo. Stoel] and Mr. Waldron, 19. Vide Stoe/l—touching Sir William Welbey, a Depaty- lieutenant of Lincolnfhire,g May. Vide Welbey.—touching Mr. Baber, Recorder of Wells, 16 May. Vide Baber.—touch- ing the Mayor of Chichester, 21 May. Another Complaint againft him, and others, and Orders thereupon, eod. die. London, Lord Mayor to be moved, that the Shops may be fhut on the Fatt Day, 24 Mar.—Petition of Mr. Clegatt, imprifoned for nat paying his Affeflment towards the Contraét for Lands, made by the City with the King, read, and referred to the Committee of Grievances, 26 Mar. Vide Clegatt—of Mr. Chapman, concerning the fame, read, and referred to the fame Committee, 27 Mar.—of divers Citizens, about Ship-money, read, and referred to the fame Committee, eod. die—Queftion, whether the Members for London are Knights, or Citizens, and Clerk of the Crown to bring the Writ, 10 May.—Petition againft Exactions in London for Metage and Portage, read, and referred to a Committee, 25 June. Lord Mayor to attend with Counfel, eed. die. Lord’s-day. Vide Sunday. Low, Vincent, Bill to reify a Miftake in an A& 21 Jac. relating to him, read twice, and committed; 16 May. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 19. Paffed, 20. Sent from the Lords, 28. Lownes. Vide Herbert. Lyfler, Mr. fent for, for ferving Sir A. Harris with a Subpoena, 10 May. To attend, 14. Examined, eed. die. Difcharged, 15 May. 4° Car.I. Parl. 3. Sef: 2. A. 1628. AMBERT, Lord, Petition of Mr. Burgeffe againft him, 14 Feb. To be fent for by the Serjeant, eod. die. To have a Copy of the Petition, 16 Feb. Levant Merchants, their Petition referred to the Commiitee appointed to confider of the Liberty of the Subject, 28 Jan.— to the Committee upon Mr. Rolles’s Relation, 31. Levett, Mr. to be fent for by the Serjeant, for exercifing his Patent condemned the preceding Seflion, 23 Jan. Lewis, Robert, Information againit him for words fpoken againft the Parliament, 27 Jan. Sent for by the Serjeant, eod. die. Liberty of the Subjeét, Committee of the whole Houfe to confi- der of the Invafion thereof, againft the Petition of Right, 21 Jan, Vide Rolles. Lincoln, Bithop of. Vide Aleyne. 4 1° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Seff.1. A. 1547. M ALT, Bill for making it, read, 24 Nov. & 8 Dec. Paffed, 17 Dec. f Married Men. Vide Priefts. Merchants, Bill for their dwelling in Towns, read, 7 Dec. 2° § 3° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sef: 2. A. 1548. M 4 LT, Bill from the Lords, foy making it, read ’ 17 Dec. Paffed, 19. iS g it, read, 13,14 & First VoLuME. Married Men. Vide Prie/ts. Marfhes, avd low Grounds, Bill for them, read, and committed; 15, Feb. Matrimony, Bill for Contracts thereof, read, 8 Feb. Member, committed, 21 Jan. Vide Storie—Leave to Members to be abfent, 24 Jan. & 21 Feb. Bill, touching the Abfence of Members, ordered, 8 Jan. Read, and committed, 15. . Merchants. Vide Artificers. Mefjage, from the Lords, about Lord Seymour's Bill of Attainder, and Anfwer to be returned by fome of the Houfe, 2 Mar. Murders, and Felonies, Bill for Trial of Principals and Acceffz- ries therein, read, 8& 12 Dec. Paffed, 14. , . — Bill for difclofing of Murders and Felonies, read, 27 Feb. Mutiny, and Defertion. Vide Officers. 3°& 4 Edw. VI. Parl.1. Sef 3. A. 1549. MA4 NCHESTER, Bill for the Water-conduit there, read, 30 Nov. & 31 Dec.—New Bill read, 8 & 28 Jan. Paffed, go. Marjh-land. Vide Ely. Member, returned in Attaint, his Appearance to be excufed before the Court of Common Pleas, 5 Nov.—Leave to a Member to be Ablent, 9 Dec. Bill for abfenting of Members, read, 8 & g Nov. Minijiers, ecclefiattical. Vide Juri/diétion. Mounfon, Sir William, Bill for Two Leafes to him, againft the Duchets of Suffolk, read, 22 Nov. 5° & 6° Edw. VI. Pari.1. Sef. 4. A. 1551 & 1552. ME MLBERS, to be abfent until the perfec Return be known, 9 Feb.—Requiring Privilege, to have a Warrant figned by the Speaker, 22 Feb. Vide Privileges—Leave to Members to be abfent, 22 & 24 Feb. 2, 3 & 16 Mar. Merchandizes, Bill ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- & 25 Feb. 5. 8. i2, 13. 17. 21, 22.25, 26 & 31 Mar. 10.14.18 & 24 Apr. Petition of a Member committed by the Judges for a Contempt, read, 3 Feb. Vide Brereton—Member reprehended by the Lords, for fomething faid at a Conference, Debate, and Proceedings there- upon, 20. 22 & 24Feb. Vide Hare—Order againft any Member’s complaining of another to a Privy Counfellor, for Things done in the Houfe, 4 Mar. Leave to a Member to be of Countel at the Lords, 24.—Form of a Letter for reealling abfent Members, read, and debated, 31 Mar. & 2 Apr. To be fent to the Sheriffs, 2 Apr. Re-committed, eod. die. Brought inagain, 3 Apr. King’s Meflage about it, eod. die. Debate thereupon, and Committee of Privileges to confider of it, eod. die. Report, 4 Apr.—Members, being of the King’s Countfel, | not to produce Evidence for the King in the Bill of Attainders, 10 Apr.—Order for the Attendance of Members at Eight o’Clock in the Morning, eod. die—Agrged, that a Member, faying Yea, may afterwards change his Opinion, 1 May. Merchants, Spanith, Committee to confider of the Patent for their Incorporation, 5 Nov. & 28 Jan. Adjourned, 6. 10 & 15 Feb. Report touching the Objections of the Spanifh Mer- chants to the Bill for free Trade, 2 May. of Hull, York, and Newcaftle, Bill for granting Allow- ances to them in the Cuftom of Cloths, read, 13 Feb. Com- mitted, 17. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 5 Mar. Paffed, * * . Sent tothe Lords, 13 Mar. . Merrick, Sir Rowland, Bill for his Refiitution, read, 27 Mar. Committed, 1 Apr. Reported, # *. Paffed, 18 Apr. Sent to the Lords, 28. Mefjage, to tie Lord Chamberlain, to clear the Houfe, 9 Nov. His Anfwer, cod. die—from the King. Vide King. Mildmay, Margaret. Vide Whettle. Minifiers, deprived, Bill for reftoring them, prefented, 26 Feb. Read, « #. Committed, 7 Mar. Reported, 14. Re-com- mitted, 21. Reported, and to be ingroffed,27. Paffed, 2 Apr. Sent to the Lords, 3. — Article of Grievance touching deprived Minifters, re- ported, 15 Mar. Vide Grievances. — Bill againft feandalous and unworthy Minifters, read, 7 Apr. Committed, 8. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 12. Pafied, and fent to the Lords, 5 May. Miniiry, Committee to confider of fome Courfe to provide for a learned one, 22 Jan. Bill, for that Purpofe, read, 19 Mar. Committed, 21. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 1 Apr. Paffed, 2. Sent to the Lords, 3. Monopolies. Vide Statutes. Morrice, Sir William, accufed of going to Mafs, 31 Jan. To be heard, eod. die. A Witnefs againft him, examined at the Bar, 1 Feb. Sequeftered, and cleared, upon Debate, eod. die. Mounpeffon, Thomas, Efq; Bill for Sale of Lands, read, 20 Feb. Committed, 1 Apr. Mounteagle, Lord, Motion for Thanks to him for Difcovery of the Plot, objected to, 31 Jan. - - Murrey, Sir David, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize him, and Thomas Murrey, Efq; 10 May. Read, 13. Committed, 14. Reported, * *. Patled, * #. Sent tothe Lords, 19 May. Mufter-mafters, Article of Grievance touching them, debated, and agreed to, 16 Apr. Debate touching the Lord Hertford’s ae in relation thereto, 10 May. Vou. I. 4° & 5° Jac.1. Parl. 1. Sef: 3. A. 1606, & 1607. M ARINERS, and Sailors, Bill to reform their unfaithful dealing, read, 30 Apr. Committed, 1 May. Reported, and to be ingrofled, * *. Pafled, 9 June. Sent to the Lords, 11. Marfhaifea, Court of, Bill for Reformation of Abufes therein, read, 8 Dec. Committed, 10. Counfel to be heard at the Committee, 15 Dec. & 18 Feb. Additional Committees, 3 Mar. & 27 Apr. Counfel to be heard at the Bar, 9, 10 & 16 Mar. Heard, 26. Bill reported, 30 Apr. Counfel to be heard thereon again, 30 Apr. 2&4 May. Heard, 5 May. Bill to be ingrofled, eod. die, Paffed, 11 May. Sent to. the Lords, 12. —New Bill prefented, and read, 12 Feb. Rejected, 13.— Another Bill tendered, 9 May. Mar/hes in Kent, drowned, Bill from the Lords, touching them, 26 Mar, Read,27. Committed, 28, Reported, and pafled, 31. Sent to the Lords, eod. die. Members, in the King’s Service, Note of them read, and Com- mittee of Privileges to confider thereof, 1g Nov. Report, and Proceedings thereon, 22.—Motion for a Member to give his Reafons why he refufed to fign the Inftrument of the Union, 27 Nov. His Anfwer thereto, eod. die—Member fitting, and calling to have a Paper read, urged to ftand up, and deliver his Opinion, 13 Feb—Committed to the Tower, and expelled, for an offenfive Speech, 16 Feb. Vide Pigott—Debate and Refolutions for recalling abfent Members, 27 Feb.—Mtmber going out of Town, without Leave, fent for by the Speaker’s etter, 3 Mar.—Another Letter to feveral Members gone upon the Circuit, eod. die—Member complains of being in- . fulted in the Street, for fpeaking againft a Bill, and Order thereupon, 5 Mar.—No Member to be employed in a Matter, who is againft it in Opinion, 7 Mar. Leaye to Members to be abfent, 9. 11, 12, 14 & 18 Mar. 27 May.—None to depart without ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- & 21 Mar. —— ae INDEX wo the First Vo LUME. Mar. 2 Apr. 26 May, 27 June, 12 & 13 July.—None to de- part without Leave, 1 & 17 Mar.—Member, fufpended, in a former Seffion reftored,6 Mar. Vide Payne-—Members ab- fent without Leave, to be fent for, 12 & 17 Mar.—Member taken by a Pirate, licenfed to be abfent, and to return when freed, 30 Mar.—Ceertificate brought of a Member’s being dead, 2 Apr.—New Members fworn, 16.Apr.—No Member to fpeak twice on Two Days, in a continued Speech, 21 Apr.— Member giving a Negative to a Queltion, admitted to affign his Reafon for it, 23 Apr.—An Order for Stay of Trial between T'wo Members, 26 Apr—Leave to Two Members to proceed to Trial, eod. die—Members {peaking impertinently, to be inter- rupted by the Speaker, 2 May.—Motion touching a Member's Wass, to be confidered by the Committee of Privileges, 11 May.—Members abfent, and not excufed, to pay the Meflen- gers fent for them, 14 May, 13 & 16 June.—neglecting to at- tend, to be called to the Bar, 14 May.—Take the Oath of Allegiance, 5, 6, 7. 11 & 23 June; 3 July—Two Petitions touching Members Wages, 30 June.—Members having Accefs to one dead of the Plague, to forbear the Houfe, 7 July.— Members abfent at the Call of the Houfe, to be fined, 12 July. —Order touching the Sum to be colleéted from the Members, eod. die. Vide Houfe. Bill for bettér Attendance of Members, read, 27 Mar. Committed, 18 Apr. Reported, and to. be ingroffed, 15 June. Paffed, 26. Meffage, from the Lords, appointing a Time and Place for a ' Conference, defired the Day betore, both being then for- gotten, 15 Feb.—Meflage fent from the Lords, by Meflen- gers from the Commons, 8 May. Committee of Privileges to confider of it, 11.—Debate about the Delivery of Mef- fages from the King by the Speaker, and Committee to pen an Order touching it, eod. die. Order reported, and agreed to, 12 May. King’s Meflage relating thereto, referred to Committee of Grievances, 14. Committee to confider of Satisfaction to the King thereon, 18. Sits, 19. Another Meflage from the King relating thereto, delivered, eod. die. —Conference defired by the Lords, to communicate a Meflage from the King touching a Supply, 11 June. Objeétion thereto, and Committee appointed to confider of the Delivery of Meffages from the King by the Lords, eod. die. Report, and Order thereon, eod. die——Houfe to fend Anfwer by their own Meffengers, if they vary in any thing from an Affent to the Lords Meflage, 20 June. Mefjengers, fent for Members abfent, to be paid their travelling harges, 14 May; 13& 16 June. Their Petition read, and referred to a Committee, 17 July. Milck Kine, Bill to enlarge the Statute 2 & 3 Ph. & Mar. touch- ing them, read, 30 Mar. Committed, 17 Apr. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 14 May. Pafled, and fent to the Lords, 20 June. Mildmay, Humphry, Efq; his Bill read, 16 Feb. Committed, 20. Motion about it, and Committees added, 8 Mar. Re- orted, 26. To be ingrofled, 28. Counfel to be heard, 29. eard, 30. Thomas, his Bill read, 28 Mar. Committed, 31. Minifters, preaching, in Parfonages appropriate, Bill relating to them, read, 17 Mar. Committed, 28. fcandalous, Bill againft them, read, 28 Mar. Committed, a6Apr. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 25 June. Patfled, 35 de Sent to the Lords, 5. filenced, Article of Grievance touching them, reported, 23 Apr. Debate thereupon, 29&24. Vide Grievances. Moor-burning, Bill againft it, read, 17 Mar. Committed, 27, Reported, and re-committed, 25 Apr. Reported, and to be in- grofled, 2 May. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 8. Returned, with Amendments, 23. Conference to be defired thereon, 30. Amendments agreed to, 3 July. Mounfey, John, Bill from the Lords, for his Naturalization, 3 July. Read, 5. Read twice, and paffed, 10. Sent to the Lords, 12. Munck, Levinus, Bill to naturalize him, read, 16 Apr. Com- mitted, 18. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 19. Paffed, 26. Sent to the Lords, go. Murray, John, Bill to naturalize him, and others, read, 16 Apr. Committed, 24. Reported, and to be ihgrofled, 24 May. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 30. Mynne, Mr. Vide Beckham. 12° Jac. I. Parl,2. 4.1614. (MACE, carried before the Speaker upon his Return from the King, 7 Apr.—Over-ruled, that any Member may fpeak while it is gone, 16 aa: Magdalen College, Bill for Confirmation of a Grant, made by them to Queen Eliz. of a Houfe and Garden without Aldgate, read, 13 May. Malt, Bill againft making it at fome Seafons, read, 15 Apr. Martin, Mr. Counfel for the Virginia Company, his Speech —— 17 May. Reprimanded at the Bar, and pardoned, 18. Mayors, and Bailiffs, returning themfelves, Queftion about them referred to Committee of Privileges, g Apr. Sequeftered, eod. die. Report, and feveral removed, 14. Further Debate concerning them, 19. Meafures. Vide Weights. Members, returned for Two Places, make their Election, 9 Apr. —to receive the Communion, eod. die. Not receiving it at the Time appointed, to be excluded, till they have received, eod. die-—Motion about a Member committed by the Lord Chancellor, eod. die. Vide Bampfeild—Debate touching feveral Members fufpected of undertaking to procure a Sup- ply, 12 Apr. Committee appointed to confider of a Pro- teftation againft them, 13. ~ A Paper, concerning this Matter, delivered in, and read, 16. Motions thereon, eod. die. Re- yor and Debate thereon, 2 May. Committee of the whole oufe to examine the Undertakers, eod. die. Report, aud Debate thereon, 14 May.—Members not to be interrupted while fpeaking, 13 Apr.—Member hiffed at, 5 May.—Mo- tion to fend the Serjeant to all the Courts, to defire them to hear the Members before any other, 11 May.—Member in- fulting the Chairman of a Committee, to acknowledge his Error at the Bar, 13 May. Me(fjages, from the King. Vide King. Minifiers, {candalous, Bill againft them, read, 16 Apr. , Monmouth, Bill to confirm the Ereétion of an Alms-houfe and Grammar-fchool there, by the Haberdafhers Company, read, 10 May. Committed, 16. Reported, and to be iy- grofled, 21. Murrey, Elizabeth, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize her, 21 May. Read, 23. 18° & 19° Jac. I. Parl.3. A. 1620, & 1621. JAGDALEN College, Petition of Dr. Gooch, concern- ing it, 4 May. To put in his Bill, and to be heard in that Courfe, eod. die. Bill for reverfing a Decree in Chancery, againft the Mafter and Fellows, at the Suit of the Earl of Oxenford, read, 8 May. Magijftrates. Vide Jujlices. ‘Malt, Bill relating thereto, read, 8 May.—Petition, complaining of an Impofition thereon, read, and referred to the Committee of Grievances, 30 Nov. Manne, Mr. Vide Wefiminfter. March, Ear] of, his Bill read, * *. Committed, * *. Reported, 16 May. Paffed, 29. Marfhall, Sir George, Committee of Grievances to examine a Complaint, touching a Decree for a Thoufand Marks, as a Recompence to him for procuring a Perfon to be made a Knight of the Bath, 18 Apr. Report, 1 May. King’s Mef- fage about it, eod. die. Proceedings and Decree voted a Grievance, and to be taken off the File, eod. die. Marfhes. Vide Salt-marfhes. Mafters in Chancery. Vide Chancery. — Sir... his Petition read, and referred to a Committce, 2 Mar. — John, Bill to fell Lands, for Payment of his Debts, read, 16 May. Megges, William. Vide Bowdler. Members, their Names called over, 30 Jan. Sworn by the Lord Steward, and his Deputies, eod. die—Returned for Two Places, make their Election, 6 & 7 Feb.—Order againft their ftanding in the swe’ 6 6 Feb. Complaint of Violences com- mitted by Members Servants, and Proceedings thereon, 8 Feb: —Members to be fworn over again, 9g Feb. Committee to confider of the Authority of the Deputies to re-{wear fuch as were {worn before, eod. die. Report, eod. die—Members fianding in the Entry, to pay Twelve-pence to the Serjeant, eod. die.—Member fitting in the Houfe, not having taken the Oaths, declared incapable of ferving, 10 Feb.—Members ex- pelled, 10 & 16 Feb. 3 & 21 Mar. & 23 Apr.—not to go out of Town without Leave, 13 Feb. & 6 Dec.—Leave to Mem- bers to be abfent, 26 & 27 Feb. 14 Mar. & 14 May.—Kiuth- ing out of the Houfe before the Speaker, to be called to the Bar, 6 Mar.—Order againft any Member’s going out of the Houfe, 8 & 9 Mar.—againft difclofing the Matter of a Report, 8 Mar.—Leave toa Member to juftify at a Conference with the Lords, what he had delivered at a former Conference, 13 Mar.—to Members to be fworn at the Lords, 16 & 20 Mar. —Members complained of for offenfive Speeches, fent for, 17 Mar.—Members fent for from the Houte of Lords, 22 Mar. —Complaint againft a Member referred to the Commiflioners of Sewers, 24 Mar.—Members going out diforderly, while the Lords Mefiengers were in the Houfe, fined, 26 Mar.—Mem- bers free of Companies, to have Voice at the Committee _* the san ls is INDEX @o the First Votume. the Bill for free Trade, 28 Apr—-Member committed to the Tower, 9 May. Vide Coke, Mr.—Members cleared of having {poken any thing offenfive in the Houle, 11 May, & 2 June.— Motion about the Imprifonment of a Member for parliamen- tary Bufineffes, 23 Nov. Vide Sandys.—touching a Profecu- tion againft a Member in the Star-chamber, 24 Nov. Vide Coke, Sir Edward. Merchant-adventurers. Vide Patents. Merchants of the Staple, Patent concerning them adjudged un- jawful, 13 Mar. Petition againft Sir Richard Lydall,and Mr. Mole, i4 May. Patent and Bonds to be brought in, eod. die. Another Petition from the Staplers, read, 24 Nov. To be examined by the Committee for Grievances, 24 & 29 Noy. Report, and Order thereupon, 19 Dec. Bill for reftoring the free Trade of the Merchants of the Staple, read, 26 Apr. Committed, 7 May. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 28. Petition of Merchants, born in England of alien Parents, to be examined at the Committee for Grievances, and Cuf- tomers to attend, 2 May. Meffages, from the King. Vide King. from the Lords, to be related to the Houfe by the Speaker, 15 Feb.—Form of delivering Meflages to the Lords, 6 Mar.—Meflage from the Lords, defiring fome Members may be {worn to give Evidence, 16 & 20 Mar. Vide Chancellor, and Monperjon.—defiring fome Prifoners to be delivered to their Officer, 16 Mar.—Mellage to the Lords, about the Time of their adjourning, 21 Mar.—from the Lords, for the Honfe to attend the King’s Commiflion for giving the Royal Affent to Bills, 22 Mar.—defiring the Houfe to come and demand Judgment upon I[mpeachments, 26 Mar. 3 & 4 May.—of Compliment upon a Recefs, and Anfwer thereto,’27 Mar.—defiring the Houfe to continue fitting, 3 May.—to fit in the Afternoon, 4 May.—Copy of a Meflage from the Lords, taken by the Clerk, the Meffengers not being impowered to leave it, 5 May.—Meflage from the Lords, to rectify a Miftake in a former Meflage, 18 May.— fignifying their Intent to adjourn, eod. die—with the King’s Commiflion for adjourning the Parliament, 4 June; 14 Nov. & 19 Dec.—defiring a Meeting of both Houfes, to receive a Meffage from the King, 20 Nov. Michaelmas Term, Bill for Abbreviation thereof, read, 24 May. Committed, 20 Nov. ; Michell, Sir Francis, Committee appointed to examine him, touching his Proceedings in the Patent for Gold and Silver Thread, 3 Mar. Report, 5. To be fent for from the Tower, and heard by Counfel, 6. Examined at the Bar, eod. die. Charge againft him to be tranfmitted to the Lords, 10 Mar. Motion about him, but no Order made thereon, 20. His Enlargement defired by the Lords, upon Security for his forthcoming, 22. Houfe defired to come and demand Judg- ment againft him, 4 May. Minehead, Borough, Report touching its Right of electing Members to Parliament, and Counfel to be heard thereon at the Committee of Elections, 3 Mar. Report, 16. Minijier, wounded by a Recufant, Petition and Articles con- cerning him, read, and Application to be made-to the King for Punifhment, :9 Dec. pable of Leafes, read, 2 Mar. Bill touching Minifters, read, and rejected, 21 Mar. Bill againft feandalous and unworthy Minifters, read, 28 Apr. , Mokun’ Sir Reynold, Bill to eftablifh fome Manors upon his Son, read, 3 May. Petition concerning it, 17. Bill debated, and committed, eod. die. Money, Motion about the Scarcity thereof, and Committee of Grievances to confider of it, 6 Feb. Further Motions, and Debate thereon, and Committee of the whole Houfe to con- fider of it, 26 Feb. Report, and Refolution thereon, 13 Mar. Bill to prevent tranfporting it, tendered, and read, 9 May. Vide Trade. Monopolies. Vide Grievances, and Patents, Bill againft them, ordered, 12 Mar. Read, cod. die. Committed, 14 Mar. Reported, and re-committed, 20. Re- ported, and to be ingrofled, 26. Queftion about a Provifo inferted by Miftake, and Committee to amend it, 8 May. Bill paffed, and fent to the Lords, with {pecial Commendation, 12. Conference defired by the Lords upon it, 10 Dec. Monperfon, Sir Giles, Report from Committee of Grievances, touching his Patent for Inns, &c. 27 Feb. A {elect Com- mittee appointed to confider ef the Method of punifhing him, eod. die. To fearch Precedents in the Tower, eod. die. Exa- mined at the Bar, and ordered to attend the Houfe till licenfed, eod. die. Refolution of the Committee to apply to the Lords for his Punifhment, reported, 28 Feb. Committee to examine his other Offences, eod. die. Called to the Bar, and committed to the Serjeant, eod. die. ~- Refolution for going to the Lords, and Committee to draw the Meflage concerning him, 1 Mar. Vou. I. Bill to make Minifters, and other fpiritual Perfons, ca- Meflage reported, and Debate thereon, 2. Information given of his Efcape, and Serjeant examined thereupon, 3. Meffage to the Lords, for a Conference concerning him, and for Search to be made after him, eod.die. Their Antwer reported, eod. die. Dyke and Fowles, his Accomplices, to be fecured, eod. die. Sir G. expelled, eod. die. Conference, defired by the Lords, about the Means of apprehending him, eod. die. Held, and reported, eod. die. To be fent to the Tower, as from the Houfe, if apprehended, eod. die. Report touching his Patent for Gold and Silver Thread, 5 Mar. Meflage to the Lords, for Papers,6 Mar. Report of the Diftribution of the feveral Parts of the Charge againft him, eod. die. Papers fent from the Lords, eod. die. Committee to prepare for the Conference about him, eod. die. Further Report touching his Proceedings about the Patent for Gold and Silver Thread, eod die. Order touching the Diftribution of the Parts, eod. die. Report touch- ing his Patent of Concealments, eod.die. Precedents of Punith- ments, intliéted by Parliament, reported, 8 Mar. To be kept fecret till after the Conference, eod. die. Inftru&tion touching the Manner of delivering this Matter to the Lords, eod. die. Debate touching the Omifion of the Referrees by the Ma- nagers ut the Conference, and Committee of the whole Houfe to c ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ll for reverfing a Decree in Chancery againft the Mafter, and Fellows, at the Suit of the E. of Ox- ford, read, 5 Mar. Committed, 9. Manfill, Sir Robert, Motion about his coming into the Houfe, pending a Complaint againft him,6 Mar. Called in, eod. die. Vide Patents. Marlow, Borough of, reftored, and Writ ordered, 4 May. Martin’s Lane, St. Petition of the Inhabitants referred to Com- mittee for Amwell River, 1 May. Meefe, Edmund, Efq; Bill for avoiding a Sentence in the Prero- gative Court, relating to his Will, read, 28 Apr. Rejected, oO. Medes, fworn, 12 & 16 Feb. Swearing of them forborn, upon Occafion of the Lord Steward’s Death, 16.—To receive the Communion, 23 Feb. Vide Houfe——Returned for Two Places, make their Election, 23, 24, 25.& 27, Feb. 2& 10 Mar.— Leave to Members to {peak at a Conference between both F Houfes, INDEX 2 the Houfes, 23 Feb.—Members to difcharge Recufant Servants, on pain of Sequeftration, 25 Feb. Not to keep them without fpecial Allowance of the Houfe, eod.die—Member petitions to be difcharged, 8 Mar. Vide Gerrard.—Party to a Bill heard, and withdraws, g Mar.—Members, doubly returned, to make their Election, or new Writs to iffue for both Places, 10 Mar.— re-elected, not to receive the Communion again, 1 Apr.—go- ing to a Conference with the Lords, and not of the Committee, fent for by the Serjeant, and admonithed, 6 Apr.—Leave to Members to give arnée at the Lords, 7 Apr. & 22 May.— Going out of the Houfe toa Conference before the Managers, to be fined, 22 Apr.—Order touching their Attendance in a Morning, 24 Apr.—Committee appointed to receive the Mo- ney to be collected from the Members for the Officers of the Houfe, 12 May. Vide Houfe. Members retiring into the Committee-chamber, and refufing to vote in a Divifion, fent for, and numbered, 28 May.—Member outlawed, to ferve, not- withftanding, eod. die. Merchant-adventurers. Vide Trade. Merchants of the Staple. Vide Grievances, and Trade. Mejjage, trom the Lords, Notice given of one intended io be fent, and of the Lords defiring the Houfe to fit to receive it, and Anfwer fent by the Serjeait to the Meflenger without, 23 Feb.—touching a Perfon apprehended for a Libel againft the Lord Keeper and Star-chamber, and claiming the Privilege of the Houfe, and Anfwer thereto, 22 Mar.—defiring the Houfe “to fit the next Day, 24 Mar.—Meflage to the Lords, to put off « Conference, 8 & 12 Apr.—ipecially recommending a Bill, 12 Apr.—Meflage from the Lords, to put off a Conference, 3, May.—to the Lords,defiring them to join in a Petition to the King, fora Week’slonger Time, and Antwer thereto, 19 May.— Mellage brought from the Lords by a Member, fent with a Bill, excepted to, 28 May. Meffages, from the King. Vide King. Michaelmas Term, Bill for Abbreviation of it, read, 3 Mar. Committed, 15. Reported, and to be ingroffled, 26 Apr. Pafled, 3 May. Middlecotes. Vide Bojion. Middlefex, Earl of, Lord Treafurer. Vide aw. -—_——. Bill from the Lords, to fubjeét his Lands to pay Debts, 15 May. Read, 19. Committed, eod. die. Reported, and re-committed, 28 May. Paffed, with Amendments, eod. die. Minijiers, fcandalous, Bill againft them, read, 15 Mar. Com- mitted, 22. Bill to make them capable of Leafes of Lands, &c. read, 15 Mar. Committed, 22. ; Mohun, Sir Reynold, Bill for eftablifhing Lands upon his Son, read, 13 Mar. Committed, 16. Reported, and re-committed, Apr. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 14. Pafled, 27. Molle, Mr. cenfured for executing the Patent concerning the Staplers, 26 May. To attend, 28. Monmouth Eleétion, Report touching the Return of a Scottifh Man, not naturalized, 10 Mar. Debate, and Refolution thereupon, eod. die. Election declared void, and a new Writ ordered, 28 May. Monepolies, and Difpenfation with penal Laws, Bill againft them, read, 24 Feb. Committed, 26. Reported, and re-committed, 9 Mar. 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Vide Houfe.—not of a felect Committee, admitted to be prefent at the Examination of Witnefles, but not to interrupt, 24 Apr. —defiring not to vote in a Divifion, not excufed, eod. die— ordered to manage the Parts at a Conference with the Lords before afligned to others, 3 & g May.—withdraw, during a De- bate concerning them, 5.9. & 22, May.—Member admonifhed by the Speaker, 5 May.—allowed-to {peak again to the fame Matter, 9 May.—fequeftered for an offenfive Speech, eod. die. Vide Dyett.—Upon a Meeting of a Committee of both Houfes, Members fent for, by the Serjeant, from the Painted Chamber Door, 10 May.—Refolutions of the Houfe, upon the Impri- fonment of Two Members by the King, 12 May. Protelta- tion to be made, by all the Members, in relation thereto, 13.15, &16, May. Vide Digges, and Ellyott —Members fent for by the Serjeant with the Mace, 17 May.—Complaint about a Let- ter, faid to be written by a Member, 22 May. Vide Savyle.— Member reflecting upon Two others, to make them Satisfaction in his Place, 22 May.—Members abfent at the Call, to be fined, 23 May, & 5 June.—Not paying their Fines, to be fent for by the Serjeant, 2 June.—Member denied Leave to be ab- fent, 3 June.—fent to the Tower for an offenfive Speech, eod. die. Vide More—Members going out of Town without Leave, to pay the fame Fine, as Defaulters upon a Call, 5 June. — Order touching the Sum to be paid by thé Members for the Officers of the Houfe, 13 June. Vide Hou/e. Bill to avoid Sufpicion of Injuftice in any Member, read twice, and committed, g May. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 10 June. Merchant-adventurers, Report touching their Impofitions, and King to be petitioned thereon, 24 May.—touching Injuries to them by the United Provinces, and King to be petitioned therein, eod. die. Merchants. Vide France, Grievances, and Newcajile. - Merton College, Bill for avoiding a Leafe of Lands belonging thereto, read,11 Feb. Committed, 16. Meffage, from the Lords, defiring the Houfe to fit in the After- noon, 7 Mar.—defiring an Aniwer to a former Meflage, 17 Mar.—Meflage to the Lords, to put off a Meeting of a Com- mittee of both Houfes, g May.—Meflengers from. the Lords, difmiffed without Anfwer, 10 June. Meffages, from the King. Vide King. Michaelmas Term, Bill for Abbreviation of it, read, 25 May. Committed, 7 June. Minifters, fcandalous, and unworthy, Bill againft them, read, 13 Feb. Committed,15. Reported, and re-committed, 25 Feb. & 7 Mar. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 10 Mar. Patfled, 20. Monke, Sir Thomas, in Execution at the Time of his Ele¢tion, Committee to examine it, 22 Mar. Report, and a new Writ ordered, 24. More, Mr. to bring in his Patent for making of Salt, 7 Mar. Offers to relinquifh it, if condemned, 28. eard, and withe draws, during the Debate thereon, 5 May. Called in, and ad- monifhed by the Speaker, eod. die. Gives his own Vote againtt the Patent, eod.die—Sent to the Tower for offenfive Words in a Speech, 3 June. His Letter to the Speaker, and Petition read, 7. Difcharged, by the King’s Confent, eod. die. Morley, Lord, Bill to fettle the Eftates and Cuftoms, of his cuftomary Tenants, read, 17 Feb. Committed, 14 Mar. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 1 May. Mountague, Mr. Report touching his Books, and Order there- upon, 17 Apr. Committee to confider of Interrogatories to be miniftered to him, eod. die. Report, 19 Apr. Petition to be prefented to the King, to fupprefs the Books, eod. die. His An- ~~ ~~ eee Apr. Books cenfured, 39. Charge againft OL. INDEX 0 th First Vouume. him to be tranfmitted to the Lords, by way of Meflage, and not at a Conference, eod. die. Articles againft him read, and to be ingroffed, 14 June. Order for the meeting of the Com- mittee for Proofs againft him, eod. die. Mujfter-mafters. Vide Serjeant-majors. 3°& 4° Car.1. Parl.3. Seff1. A.1627, & 1628. M AC E; carried before the Speaker on his being confirmed, 19 Mar. Malt. Vide Grievances. Manwaring, Dr. Report touching Two of his Sermons com- plained of, 14 May. Charge to be tranfinitted to the Lords, eod. die. Committee to prepare it, eod. die." Draught of it read, and to be ingroffed, and prefented to the Lords, 27 May. Further Report, and Order for hearing his Defence, 31. Con- ference defired with the Lords, about the Charge againft him, and agreed to, 4 June. Leave to Members to be examined, touching hin, 10. Articles againft him read, and to be fent to the Lords, 11. Houfe to go and demand Judgment againft him,14. Form of his Submiffion, to be made in both Houfes, fent from the Lords, 21. Called in, and makes Submiflion accordingly, eod. die. Market, Clerk of, Bill to regulate the Office, read, 7 Apr. Com- mitted, 18. Marriage, Bill for free Liberty of it at any Time of the Year, “— 17 Apr. Committed, 22. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 5 May. Madiiag Rives, Bill from the Lords, to make it navigable, 7 May. Read, 8. Committed, 12. Reported, and re-committed, 17 June. Members, {worn, 17 Mar.—doubly returned, make their Election, 17. 20.27, & 28, Mar. 9 Apr.—to make their EleGtion within a limited Time, 20 Mar.—to receive the Communion in Pre- fence of a Committee, appointed for that Purpofe, eod. die — Member cleared of having {poken offenfively againft the King, or the Privy Council, 22 Mar.—Members fianding in the Entry, or going out diforderly before the Speaker, or from a Grand Committee, to pay Twelve-pence to the Serjeant, 26 Mar.—doubly returned, ordered to make their'Election imme- diately, or elfe the Houfe to make Eleétion for them, 28 Mar. —appointed Overfeers at the Communion, {pared, and others appointed in their room, 3 Apr.—Member withdraws during a- Debate, 9 Apr—Members not attending at the Call of the Houfe, to be fined, 9 Apr. & 2 June-—Member interrogated "y the Speaker in his Place, and fequeftered, 9 Apr.—Vide aber.— Leave to Members to be abfent, 9, 10, 11. 17,18, 19. &a ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nue fitting, 23 Apr. 12 & 17 May.—to know if the Houfe can be ready for a Conference, 20 & 21 May.—de- firing the Houfe to fit in the Afternoon, 23 May.—Meflage to the Lords, to excufe the taking of a Propofition, made by them, into Confideration till the next Day, eod. die——from the Lords, to acquaint the Houfe of their being in a Debate, which was likely to lafi long, 24 May.—defiring fome Members may have Leave to give Evidence before them, 10 June. Mefjages, from the King. Vide King.—Exception taken toa Meflage from the King, for the Houfe to attend him in the Houfe of Peers, not being brought by the Black Rod, 19 Mar. Michell Election, Report touching it, and Return to be amended, 21 May. Mikbourne, Elizabeth, Report from Committee for Religion, touching her Children, and Committee to draw a Petition to the ae thereupon, 24 May. Petition read, and to be in- groffed, 19 June. To be prefented to the King,20. Report of the Delivery of it, 24. Milbourne-port, Borough of, reftored, 1 May. Minifters, tcandalous, Bill againft them, read, 12 Apr. Com- mitted, 19. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 30. Pafled, 16 May. Minijiry, Bill from the Lords, for better Maintenance thereof, 26 Apr. Read, 28. Committed, 7 May. Reported, with Amendments, 23. Read the Third time, 16 June. Debate thereon adjourned, eod. die. Mohun, Mr. afterwards Lord, Complaints againft him, 10 Apr. Referred to a Committee, 16. Report, 27 May. To have Notice, and to anfwer, 28. Committee to draw up a Charge againft him, eod. die. His Anfwer touching it, 29 & 30 May. Charge read, and to be ingroffed,14 June. Witnefles againft him dilcharged, 20. Money, free Conference to be had with the Lords about the Com- million and Warrant for raifing it by Impofition, or otherwile, 13 June. Commiffion voted illegal, eod. die. Cancelled, and fent to the Houfe to be viewed, and recorded, 19 June. Morgan, Richard, his Petition read, and referred to Committee of Grievances, 17 May. William, Efq; Bill for fettling feveral Lands upon him, and his Heirs, read,24 Mar. Committed,15 Apr. Reported, and to be ingrofled,14 May. Read Third time, 19. Pafled, 23. Morley, Lord, Bill for eftablifhing the Eftates and Cuftoms of his Pennie read,io Apr. Committed, 16. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 29. Pafled, 13 June. Mofeley, Sir Edward, Complaint againft him referred to a Com- mittee, 18 June. Moulden, John, Complaint againft him about billeting Soldiers in Surrey, 26 Mar. Sent for by the Serjeant, eod. die. Exa- mined, 28 Mar. Committee to examine the Complaint, eod. die. Report, 10 Apr. To be difcharged, and to attend when required, 11. Mounjon, Sir Thomas. Vide Grievances. Mountague, Dr. Articles againft him reported, and to be fent to the Lords, 11 June. Mayor of New Windfor examined touch- ing his Behaviour about the Bonfires there, 13. Committee to examine it, eod.die. Report, 14 June. Mufcovia Company. Vide Greenland. Mujiers. Vide Arms. 4° Car.I. Parl. 3. Sef? 2. A.1628. AAGISTRATES, and Minifters, Bill to prevent Dif- orders in them, read, 10 Feb. Marriage, Bill for free Liberty of it at any Time of the Year, read, 24 Jan. Martyn, Sir Henry, Petition againft him, read, 16 Feb. Heard thereupon, eod. die. Petition referred to Committee for Courts of Juftice, eod. die. Mayors. Vide Member. Medway River. Vide Cole. Member, chofen Mayor of a City, to ferve, notwithftanding, 20 Jan.—New Members to receive the Communion, 21 Jan.— Members excufed from being Chairmen of Committees, upon account of Age and Infirmity, 23 Jan.—None to go out with- out Leave, 27 & go Jan. 19 & 20 Feb.—Order againft a Member’s an{wering a Petition againft him .at the Lords, 29 Jan. Vide Eppefley—Complaint againft the Magiftrates of Exeter, for not paying a Member his Wages, 30 Jan. Vide Exeter —Leave to Members to be abfent, 31 Jan. 9. 12, 13. 19. & 21, Feb.—Members feat for by the Mace, to attend the Houfe, 31 Jan.—Leave to Members to be of Counfel at the. Lords, 5 & 13 Feb.—to give Evidence at the Lords, 7 Feb.— Members ftanding in the Entry, to pay 12d. to the Serjeant, g Feb.—not to go out of Town without Leave, on pain of Cen- fure, 11 Feb.—Letter to be written to a Member, to require his Attendance, or fome Reafon to excufe, eod. die.—Intimation to be given to Two Members to attend, 13 Feb. Member juftifies himfelf, in his Place, againft a Complaint, 16 Feb. — Merchants. Vide Rolles. Mefjages. Vide King. Michell, Sir John, his Petition againft the Bifhop of Lincoln, read, 28 Jan. Called in, and admonifhed to reform fome Things in it difliked, eod. die. Minijiry, Bill from ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- g him, 30. Ordered into Cuftody for Three Days, 3 Dec. Naturalization Bills. Vide Anftrother, Beft, Burlimachi, Butt, Cecill, Deligne, Douglas, Grace, Herbert, Hale, Little, Payne, Salifbury, Steward, Stiles, Vere. Navigation, Bill for Maintenance thereof, read, 9 May. Naylors, Bill to prevent Abufes committed by them, read, 12 lar. Newfound-lund. Vide Fifhing. New River Company, Bill to confirm their Letters Patent, read, 7 May. ; No#-refidency, Bill againtt it, read, 26 Apr. 21° & 22° Jac. 1. Parl. 4. A. 1623, & 1624. N4 TURALIZATION Bills. Vide Anftrother, Bef, Burlimachi, Carre, Jacobfon, Murray, Stanere, Stewart, Vandeput, Vere, Verbecke, and Young. Bill for naturalizing of fuch Englifhmen’s Children, as ferved in the Low Countries, read, and to fleep, 12 Mar. Claufe added to a Naturalization Bill, to take away the Benefit, if the Perfon naturalized fhould be convicted of co- louring Strangers Goods, 30 Apr. The like Claufe ordered to be inferted in all Bills, of the like kind, eod. die. Neweajile Coals. Vide Sea-goals. Newcaftle under Lyne, Election, Report concerning it, g Apr. Refolution touching the Right of Eleétion, eod. dies New Writ ordered for one of the Burgeffes, eod. die. New River Company, Bill for confirming Letters Patents to them, read, 4 Mar. Committed, 22. Petition of Inhabitants of St. Martin’s Lane, referred, 1 May. Newsham. Vide Coventry. Nicholfon, Mr. Patentee of the pretermitted Cuftoms, ordered to bring in his Patent to the Committee for Trade, 13 Mar. To be heard by Counfel, 13 Apr. Heard in Perfon, 16. Or- . dered to attend with his Patent, 19 May. Patent delivered in, eod. die. Committee to confider of it, and of a fit Punifhment for him, eod. die. To attend the Houfe, eod. die. — Eleétion, Report touching it, and Refolution thereupon, 24 Mar. Northumberland Election, Report touching one of the Knights made a Baron, 2 Mar. Norwich, Bithop of, Report from the Committee of Grievances touching a Complaint againft him, 7 May. To be tranfmitted to the Lords, eod. die. Refolution concerning him, eod. die. Heads againft him to be prepared, eod. die. Read, and agreed to, § May. Conference defired with the Lords, about him, eod. die. Agreed to, 15 May. Report of the Conference, and Charge, 19. Proceedings againft him to be colleéted, 28. Delivered in, and ordered to be kept, 29. Weavers of, Bill to reftrain them from ufing any Wool, or Yarn, but of Norfolk Growth, read, 17 Apr. Rejected, 23.—Bill for Explanation of an Aét, relating to the War- _ of Worfted Weavers in Norwich and Norfolk, read, 26 pr. 1° Car. I. Parl. 1. A. 1625. v4 TURALIZATION Bills. Vide Bave, and De- igne. 1° & 2° Car. 1. Parl. 2. A. 1625, & 1626. ATURALIZATIONBills. Vide Afhley, Bave, De- ligne, Powell, and Southerne. Navigation. Vide Shipping. Neale, Sir Francis, Bal to make void a Decree in his Behalf, read, 7 Mar. Committed, 23. Nevill, Sir Thomas, Bill frou the Lords, for Affurance of a Jointure to his Lady, 11 Mar. Reported, 20 Apr. Newcajfile, Merchants of, their Petition read, 22 Mar. Queftion 2 Read, 14. Committed, 17. First VoLuME. for a Committee to prepare a Petition to the King thereon, over-ruled, eod. die. Vide Sharpers. Newport Election, and double Return, Report, and Refolution, concerning it, 17 Mar. Nichils Accounts. Vide Efcheators. Nicholfon, Edmund, Projector of the pretermitted Cuftoms, Bill ° concerning him, read, 15 Feb. Committed, 18. To be heard by Counfel, 1 Mar. Bill reported, and re-committed, 4. Ni« cholfon’s Petition read, and to be heard by Counfel, ead. die. Heard in Perfon, 11 Mar. Bill to be ingrofled, eod. die. Paffed, 20 Mar. . Non-refidents, Bill for their making better Allowance to preach- ing Curates, read, 8 May. Committed, 9. Norfolk, Petition from thence read, and referred to the Com- mittee for Statutes, g June. 3° & 4° Car. I. Parl. 3. S ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mitted, 12 May. a gh aa and Bridges, Bill for amending them, read, 5 & 7 June. ; Univerfity. Vide Univerfities, 18° Eliz. Parl. 4. Sef. 2. A. 1575. O ILS, Bill for making them, read, and rejected, 6 Mar. Oxford Highways, Bill for amending them, read, 29 Feb. To be itigroffed, 5 Mar. Paffed, 7. Returned from the Lords, with Amendments, 10. Sent back, 12. 23° Eliz. Parl. 4. Sef 3. A. 1580. OR DERS. Vide Conferences, and Members. Ozford, Earl of, Claufe, relating to him, inferted in Lord Latymer’s Bill, 21 Feb. 1° & 2° Jac.1. Parl.1. Seffi1. A. 1603, 1604. O4 T H, of Supremacy, taken by Members, 19 Mar. Com- _ miffion for adminiftering it, cod. die. Form of it, eod. die. Oats, Bill for true meafuring of them, read, 28 Apr. Commit- ‘ted, 22 May. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 23. Paffed, 16 June. You. f. + of the Houfe. Vide on rders. Vide Bills, Committees, Conferences, Delinquents, Mem- bers, Mefjages, Queftions, and Speaker. Ordnance, Bill againft Tranfportation thereof, prefented, 3 Apr. Read, 4. Committed, 12. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 17. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, with fpecial Recommendation, 18. Returned, with Amendments, 12 June. Amendments read, and rejected, with the Bill itfelf, 15. Meflage to the-Lords, to defire an Order for Stay of Ordnance, ready to be tranfported, 18 Apr. Their Anfwer, 10. Outlawries, fecret, Bill to take them away, read, 19 Apr. Com- mitted, 27 Apr. & 17 May. Outlaws. Vide Parliament. 3° & 4° Jac.1. Parl.1. Sef. 2. A. 1605, & 1606. OATH, of Supremacy, Bill to oblige all Perfons, going beyond Sea, to take it; read, 22 Jan. Committed, 24. . Officers, of the Houfe. Vide Houfe. Ognell, George, Bill for confirming the Manor of Cruelfield to him, read, 31 Jan. & 18 Feb. Counfel to be heard, 18 Feb. a 19& 20. Bill committed, 20. Reported, and dafhed, 7 Mar. Orders. Vide Bills, Committees, Counfel, and Members. erring Article of Grievance touching it, read, and agreed to, 9 Apr. Oriel College, Bill for confirming Letters Patents to the Provoft and Scholars, read, 12 Mar. Committed, 18. Reported, and re-committed, 27. Reported, and to be ingroffed, eod. die.. Pafled, 30 Apr. Sent to the Lords, 5 May. Returned, with Amendments, 10. Amendments agreed to, 12. Oxford City. Vide Thames. — Univerfity, to be named before Cambridge in the Title of a Bill, 26 Feb. 4° & 5° Jac. 1. Parl.1. Seff.3. A. 1606, & 1607. O FFICERS, of the Houfe. Vide Hou/e. Orders. Vide Bills, Briefs, Members, and Meffages. Orfett, Re&tory. Vide Salifbury. Outlawries, fecret, Bill for avoiding them, read, 18 May. Com- mitted, 6 June. ’ 7° & 8 Jac. ¥. Parl.1. Seff.4. A. 1609, & 1610. AT H of Allegiance, Report touching it, 3 Apr. Bill con- cerning it, read, 10 May. Committed, 15. Claufe, touch- ing Women Récufants, to be inferted the:ein, 4 July. Further Proceedings thereon, eod. dié. Bill ré-committed, 5 July. To | be ingrofled, cod die. Pafled, 11 July. Sent to the Lords, 12. Members, returned for a new Borough, to take the Oath of Supremacy, 16 Apr. Bill to oblige Perfons to be naturalized, or reftored in Blood, to take the Oaths, read, 11 May. Committed, # *. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 18 May. Paffed, 21. Sent to the Lords, 30. Returned, with Amendments, 2 July. Amend- ments agreed to, 3. Bill againft the Oath, ex Officio, prefented, 16 May. Read, 21. Committed, 7 June. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 14. Pafled, and fent to the Lords, 20. Houfe to take the Oath of Allegiance, 5 June. Order for Two Members, being Juftices of Peace, to adminifter it, eod. die. Manner of adininiftering it, eod. die. Taken by Mem- bers, 5, 6. & 11 June; 3 July. Officers. Vide Magiftrates. of the Houte. Vide Hou/e. Ognell, Mr. his Bill read, 26 Apr. Orders. Vide Bills, Briefs, Grievances, Members, Mefjages, and Oath. Ordnance, Bill againft tranfpoiting it, prefented, 7 Mar. Read, 8. Committed, 17. Reported, and rejected, 30 May.— Coan appointed to draw a Bill touching Iron Ordnance, eod. die. , Orphans, Bill for their Relief, read, 26 May. Orrell, Bill read, 7 June. Committed, 20. Outlawries, privy, Bill againft them, read, 30 May. Rejeéted, 15 June. ; Oxenford, Ear] of, Bill from the Lords, for Sale of fome of his Lands, 16.June. Read, 20. Committed, 22. Reported, 30. Paffed, 2 July. Sent to the Lords, 5. Oxford Univerfity. Vide Univerfities. 19° Jac. I. Parl. 2. A. 1614. AT H, Debate touching the Power of the Houfe to admi- nifter it, and Committee of Privileges to confider of it, 19 Apr. Bill againft the Oath ex Officio, read, 23 May. Com- mitted, 31. Offices, a IN DEX ¢@o the First VoLtuMeE. Offices, and Inquiftions, taken on the King’s Behalf, Bill of Grace againft them, prefented, and read, 2 May. Orders. Vide Bills, Mace, Members, and Speaker—No Order to be made without a Queftion affirmative and negative, 13 Apr.—Order, againft going to the King, to be entered in the Journal, 6 May. Ordnance, Iron, Bill againft tranfporting it, read, 4 May. Committed, 11. Owen, Sir Roger, complains of being infulted in the Chair, at a Committee, and Proceedings thereon, 13 May. 18° & 19° Jac. 1. Parl. 3. A. 1620, § 1621. O04 T HS, taken by Perfons to be naturalized, 1 Mar. 28 Apr. & 28 May. Offices, and Inquifitions, taken on the King’s Behalf, Bill of Grace againft them, read, 27 Mar. Committed, 30 Apr. Reported, and re-committed,-30 May. Committee appointed to draw a Bill againft buying and felling of Offices, 3 May. Ogle, Sir Richard, Bill for Payment of his Debts, read, 28 May. Oldbury. Vide Thornbury. Orders. Vide Bills, Members, Meffages, Petitions, Privileges, Quefiions, and Speaker. _ Ordnance, King to be moved for Stay of fome ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e Houfe, upon Motion touching the Imprifonment of a Mem- ber, 1 Feb. Prophecies, Bill from the Lords, againft them, read, 12 & 16 Mar. Pafled, 18. Purveyors, Bill againft their felling Things taken for the Queen, read, 1 Mar.—New Bill read, 8 Mar. To be ingrofled, 1 Apr. —Another Bill againft Purveyors, read, and committed, 1 Mar.—Bill to oblige them to brand Cattle, taken for the Queen, read, 8 Mar. To be ingroffed, 1 Apr. Read Third time, and committed, 3. Paffed, 7. Addition thereto, from the Lords, thrice read, and pafled, 10 Apr. 5°, 6°, 7°, & 8°, Eliz. Parl.2. A. 1563, 1564, & 1505. PA RLIAMENT, prorogued, 2 Oct. 1563; 5 O4. 1564; 30 Apr. 4 Oct. & 7 Feb, 1565. 8° & 9° Eliz. Parl. 2. Sess. 2. A. 1566. PA R DON, Billof, brought from the Lords, 23 Dec. Read, and paffed, 24. Parliament diffolved, 2 Jan. Pelts. Vide Leather. Pick-purfes. Vide Cut-purfes. Plumfiead Marth, Bill for winning it, read, 26 O&. To be in- grofled, 19 Dec. Paffed,20. Matter of the Tythes referred by the Proprietor, eod. die. Plymouth, Bill for the Alms-houfes there, read, 27 Nov. To be ingrofled, 20 Dec. Pafled, 21. Poor, Bill for Collection for them, and to fet the idle on work, read, 4 Dec. Privilege, claimed by a Member imprifoned, 8 O&. Vide Gar- dyner—Granted to Members Servants, 29 Oct. & 22 Nov.— Debate touching the Privileges of the Houfe, upon Occafion of the Queen’s Command to proceed no further in their Suit about her Marriage, and the Succeffion, 11 Nov. 13° Eliz. Parl. 3. A. 1571. PA RDON, Bill from the Lords, for it, 29 May. Read, and paffed, eod die. ee, Caufes of calling it declared, 2 Apr. Diffolved, 29 ay. Partridges. Vide Pheafants. Paftors, Bill from the Lords, that they fhall be of found Religion, 21 May. Penance. Vide Religion. Percy, Sir Henry, Order touching the inferting of the Saving for him in the Bill of Attainders, 15 May. Vide Aétainders, Petitions. Vide Grievances. Pheafants, and Partridges, Bill for Prefervation of them, read, 18 ay. Plymouth and Dartmouth Havens, Bill for maintaining them, read, and committed, 11 May.—New Bill read, 16 May. To be ingroffed, 21. Pafled, 25. Pope. Vide Bulls. Prayers, to be faid every Day in the Houfe, 4 Apr. Prefentations. Vide Religion. Priefis, popith, difguifed, Bill againft them, read twice, and to be ingroffed, 26 Apr. Pafled, 27. Conference defired by the Lords thereon, and agreed to, i May. Queen’s Counfel to be confulted, touching it, 2. Prifoner, in the Fleet, to be brought by the Warden, to the Houfe, 19 Apr. Privilege, to a Member’s Servant, moved for, and Committee to confider of it, g Apr.—Granted to a Member’s Servant, 3 May.—Parties arretting a Member’s Servant, to attend, 4 May. Prades Bill for Reformation of them, read, and rejected, and Committee appointed to draw a new Bill, 23 Apr. New Bill read, 2 May. To be ingrofled, 9.—Bill from the Lords, again{t them, 22 May. Purveyance. Vide Univerfities. 14° Eliz. Parl. 4. Sess.1. A. 1572. P ATRONS. Vide Prefentations. Plumftead Marhh, Bill for draining it, read, 23 May. To be ingroffed, 30. Paffed, 5 June. Plymouth, Bill for the Alms-houfe there, read, 12 May. Com- mitted, 13. Returned with Amendments, eod. die. Poor, Bill for their Relief, and for Reftraint of Vagabonds, read, 14 May.—Bill from the Lords, to the fame Purpofe, 19 May. Read, 20. Commiited, 22. Additiona! Provifoes read, 24. Conference defired with the Lords thereon, and agreed to, eod. die. Provifoes to be ingrofled,28 May. Bill read Third time, with the Provifoes, and committed, 29. Refolution touching an Amendment, made thereto by the Committee, 30. Bill pafl- ed, with Amendments, 2 June. Prefentations, Bill for faving the Right of Patrons thereto, read, 17 May. Committed,19. To be ingrofled, 21. Paffed, 24. Returned from the Lords, 3 June. Sent back, amended, g. Prifoners. Vide Treafon. Privilege. V ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e—Complaint of a Breach of Privilege com- mitted by a Vintner and his Man, in taking a Cloak froma Member's Servant, 24 Mar. Parties examined, and ordered into Cuftody, eod. die. Difcharged, 5 Apr.—Precedents of Petitions to the Kings of England for Privilege, with their Anfwer and Affent, taken out of the Parliament Rolls, read, 16 Apr—Complaint of contemptuous Words ufed againft a Member, 26 Apr. Witnefs examined in relation thereto, and the Words pardoned, 27.—Precedents of Privilege, taken out of the Journals, produced, 2 May.—Several Perfons to be at- tached by the Serjeant, for Breaches of Privilege in ferving Subpoena’s upon Members, 8. 10. & 15, May.—Member, warned to appear upon a Trial, to have Privilege, and Form of the Order for that Purpofe, 14 May.—Complaint of an Abufe offered to a Member for his proceeding upon a Bill, and Of- fender to be attached by the Serjeant, 16 June. — Bill for Relief of Plaintiffs in Writs of Execution, where Defendants are releafed by Privilege of Parliament, read, 20 Apr. Committed, 21. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 27. Paffed, 7 May. Sent to the Lords, 10. Prohibitions, Bill touching Cofts therein, read, 27 Mar. Com- mitted,g May. Reported, **. Dafhed, 31 May. Bill for Explanation of former Acts, for granting Prohi- bitions in fpiritual Caufes, read, 13 June. Rejected, 20. Provifoes, offered to a Bill after the Third Reading, twice read, and committed, with the Bill, 12 & 13 June. Puritans, Bill againft them, read, 2 Apr. Committed, 25. Purveyors, Committee to confider of their Abufes,23 Mar. Re- port, and Bill for Reftraint of them, to be drawn, 26. Pre- fented, and read, 31. Committed, 3 Apr. Officers of the Green-cloth to be confulted, 5. Meflage to the Lord Steward, for that Purpote, 12. Debate, and Refolution to proceed by Petition to the King, 14. — prefented, 18. Read, and referred to the Committee, 19. Read aSecond time, and Com- mittee to fet down other Grievances of Purveyors, 26. Com- plaiut of a threatening Letter, fent by the Officers of the Green- cloth to the Mayor of Brifiol, upon an Indictment againft a Purveyor, eod.die. Letter read, eod. die. Petition to be in- grofled, and Committee appointed to prefent i, 27 Apr. Houfe informed of the King’s Order for punifhing feveral Purveyors, 28 & 30 Apr. Speaker’s Relation of the Abufes of a. Pur- veyor in his Country, 28. Report of the Delivery of the Petition to the King, and of what pafled thereon, 30. Or- der for the meeting of the Committee for Purveyors, eod. die. Conference to be held with the Lords touching them, 2 May.. Meffage to the Lords thereupon, and Conference agreed to, 3- Another Conference defired by the Lords, and agreed to, 5. Refort from the Committee for Purveyors, and a telect Committee named to confider of the Articles againft them, and to manage the Conference, 7. Conference reported,g. Mef- fage from the King, touching them, eod. die. Debate about the Method of proceeding, and Committee to confider of it, 11 May. Clerk Comptroller of the Houfhold to attend the Committee, 16. Debate touching a Compofition, for Purvey- ance, and Committee to confider of it, 18. Warrant to the ‘Officers of the Green-cloth to attend, eod. die. Anfwer to fo much of the Petition, as concerned the Officers of the Houfhold, and the Purveyors of the Stable, 19 May. Report from the Committee, about a Compofition, and Debate thereupon, 23 May. Bill to reftrain Purveyors from exceeding their Com- miflion, tendered, but not to be read, eod. die. King to be attended, and Committee to confider of a Courfe to fatisfy him, eod. die. Matter to be difputed in the Houfe, 26 May. Bill for levying rateable Contributions towards a Compofition for the King’s Houfe, tendered,2 June. Debate thereon, and Refolution to defer proceeding till the next Seflion, eod. die. 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Complaint of Sir Robert Brett’s entering upon the Premifes in Queftion, and keeping Poffeffion by Force, but no Order thereupon, 4 July—Complaint of a Writ to levy [ffues againft Sir Robert Oxenbridge, 16 June. Writ read, and [flues to be difcharged, eod. die——Privilege to Mr. Stone, for Stay ofa Trial, 20 June.—to Sir Henry Nevill’s Servant arrefted, 30 June. Vide Pafmore. Provifoes. Vide Claufes. Purveyors, Motion for « Bill againft them, 27 Nov. 5°, 6° & 7° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. 1609. PARLIAMENT, prorogued by Proclamation, 30 Sept. _& 10 Jan. 1607; 4 Sept. & 4 Jan. 1608; & 26 Sept. 1609. A. 1607, 1608, & 7° & 8° Jac. 1. Parl.1. Sess. 4. A. 1609, & 1610. P ACQU ETS, found at the Door, to be burnt, 20 June. Pages, Complaint of their Infolence, and pawning Members Cloaks at a Tavern, 2 Mar. Proceedings thereupon, eod. die. Palmer, Edward and Henry, Bill for naturalizing them, read, 20 — & 25 June. Paffed,28. Sent tothe Lords, 2 July. Pardon, Bill from the Lords for it, 23 July. Read, eod. die. Conference defired with the Lords, for an Exception of Sir Stephen Proctor, and agreed to, cod. die. Held, and reported, and King to be moved therein, eod. die. King’s Confent figni- fied, and Bill amended by the Lords accordingly, eod. die. Parliament, King’s Intention to prorogue it fignified, 12 July. Prorogued, 23. Perfonages, appropriate. Vide Minifters. Partitions, in Townfhips. Vide fates. Partridges. Vide Hawking. Pajfquils. Vide Grievances. Payne, Mr. futpended ina former Seffion, Report from Com- mittee of Privileges concerning him, 19 Feb. To be fent forby Letter, eod. die. His Petition referred to the Committee, 24 Feb. Further Report touching him, 6 Mar. Re-admitted eod. die. Penington—Hollinthead, Bill read, 20 June. Committed, 2 July. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 16. Pafied,* *. Sent to the Lords, 17 July. Pheafants. INDEX @ the First Votume. ? Pheafiuts. Vide Hawking. ot Pirates, and Viracies, Motion about them, 28 Feb. Bill touch- ing them, read, 1 Mar. Committed, 3. Relation of divers Intulencies committed by Pirates in the Wefiern Parts, eod. die. Bill reported, and to fleep, and a néw Bill prefented, 16 Apr. . Read, 17. Copy of a Letter from a Pirate, read, 30 Mar. Platt, Mr. his Bill read, 8 Mar. Committed; 10. Reported, aud re-committed, 27 June. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 4 July. Rejected, 6. . Pleydall, Mr. his Bill read, 24 Mays Committed, 14 June. luratities, and Non-refidence, Bill againft them, read, 15 Feb. Committed, 19. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 27. Palled,1 Mar. Sent to the Lords; and to be {pecially recom- mended, 2, . : Pole, Henry, his Bill to fell Lands, read, 21 Feb: Committed, 22. Reported, and rejected, 6 Mar. Poor, Bili for their Relief, read twice, and re-delivered, 22 Feb.— Bill for a Colleétion for theth, read, 10 May. Committed, 25. — Bill for their Relief, read, 5 July. Prerogative Court, Bill relating thereto, read, 29 Mar. Debated, and rejected, 3 Apr. Priefis, and Jetuits, Motions about their frequenting, and faying Mats in, Prifons; and Proceedings thereon, 18, 24, & 25, May; 12 & 19 Jane. Complaint of their being fuffered to efcape, for Money, and Committee appointed to examine one Udall, offering to give Evidence in relation thereto, 5 July. Report, and Proceedings thereon, 6. 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Serjeant fent toa Party profecuting a Trial againit him in the Exchequer, 26 Apr. Order for Stay of a Trial in Chancery, concerning him, 2 May.-~Abufe offered by Sir Roger Nevyfon’s Servant, referred to the Committee, 20 Apr.—Leave to Members to wave their Privilege, 26 Apr.—Privilege to Sir John Hungerford, ferved with a Sub- pena, and Parties fent for, 8 May.—to Sir Robert Townfend, ferved with a Subpcena, and Parties fent for, 15 May. Com- mittee of Privileges to confider of it, 18 June. Party pro- eceding, notwithitanding the Order, to be fent for, 19. Exa- mined at the Bar, and Committee to confider of the Complaint, 20.—Privilege to Sir William Morrice, ferved with a Sub- peena, and Parties to be fent for, 15 May.—Privilege to Mr. Licutenant’s Servant, 18 May.—to Mr. Duncombe, ferved with a Subpoena, eod. die. Matter referred to the Committee, 21 May. Report, and Proceedings thereon, 23.—Privilege to Dr. Steward and Sir Hugh Beefton, ferved with Subpoenas, 23 May, & 26 June——Motion for Privilege to Sir O. Crom- well’s Servant, referred to the Committee, 1 June.—Privilege to Sir Ja. Scudamore, 7 June. Matter referred to the Com- mittee, 18. Report, 19.—Motion for Privilege to Dr. Stew- ard’s Servant, imprifoned for getting a Woman with Child, referred to the Committee, 14 June. Report, and Privi- lege granted, 16. Order about Payment of the Charges, 20.—Motion for Privilege to Sir Rich. Hawkins’s Ser- vant, taken by the Lord Admiral’s Warrant, 14 June— Complaint of an Abufe to Sir Edm. Ludlow, referred to the Committee, 20 June. No Privilege to his Servant, eod. die— Privilege to Sir Edw. Sandys, 13 July. Petition concerning it, and Privilege affirmed, 14.—Motion for Privilege to a Member’s Son, arrefied, and Party to attend, 18 July.—Privi- lege to a Member, not to attend an Order in the Star- chamber, eod. die, Vou. I. Proclamations, Article of Grievance touching them, reported, 30 Apr. Debated, and re-committed, 7 May. Reported, 10. To be prefented asa Grievance, and Catalogue of them to be ani . nexed, 11; Proétor, Sir Stephen, Report touching his Commiflion for exe- cuting penal, Laws, 24 Feb. Examinations taken againtt hini, reported, 26. Commiflion delivered in, eod. die. Further Report touching him, and King to be moved for his being brought .to the Houfe, 8 Mar. Anfwer reported, cod. die. Committee appointed to examine him, eod. die. Letters, touching him, referred, 27 Mar. Further Information to be given againft him, 25 Apr. Report touching his Abufes, 2 May. Committed to the Serjeant, eod. die. Committee to collect Heads againft him, 5 May. Charged at the Bar, 9. His Petition read, 10. Method of punifhing him to be de- bated, 10& 12 May. Meflage from the King, touching him, 14. Renianded to the Gatehoufe, and King to be peti- tioned to leave him to the Judgment of the Houfe, eod. die. Anfwer, 15. Committee. to frame a Bill to punith him, eod. die. Committed to the Tower, eod. die. Bill to punifh him, prefented, 6 June. Read, 12. Two Petitions from him, read, eod. die. Billcommitted, 15 June. His Petition for Counfel, 22. Not allowed Counfel in general, but only as to the State of his Lands and Creditors, eod. die. Bill reported, and to be ingrofled, 26 June, Pafled, 3 July. Sent to the Lords, 5. Conference defired by the Lords thereon, agreed to, and Ma- nagers appointed, 19. Debate touching the Manner of pro- ceeding therein, eod. die. Refolution relating thereto, 21 July. Sir Stephen excepted out of the Bill of Pardon, 23. . Proteétion, not allowed in Matters of Execution, 23 Feb. Provifoes, to be brought in Writing, 14 July. Provofts, &c. Bill touching their Refidence, read, * *. Com- mitted, 16 Apr. em, Bill concerning it, read, 22 Feb. Committed, 20. 12° Jac. I. Parl. 2. A. 1614. P ALATINE of the Rhine, Bill from the Lords, concern- ing him and his Lady, 11 Apr. Read twice, and commit- ted, eod.die. Reported, and Conference to be defired with the Lords, touching an Amendment thereto, 13 Apr. Agreed to, and held, 14. Bill amended, and pafled, eod. die. Sent to the Lords, 15 Apr. Parliament, Motion for an Order againft publifhing the Pros ceedings thereof, 14 May. Patent, to the French Company, complained of, 12 Apr. To be confidered by the Committee of Grievances, eod. die. Com- pany to attend therewith, 14 & 15 Apr. Report touching it, and Debate thereon, 20. Patent to be brought to the Houfe, 20 Apr. and 2 May—Report touching the Glafs Patent, 20 Apr. Vide Gla/s.—Sir L. Cranfeild’s Patent touch- ing Sheriffs Accompts, to be brought in, 6 May. Referred to Committee of Grievances, 7—Mr. Putto’s Patent to be brought in, 20 May. Debate about the Patent for dying and drefling of Cloth, and Committee of the whole Houle to con- der of it, eod. die. ' Payne, Robert, Bill to naturalize him, read, 2 May. Peers, admitted into the Houfe, upon the hearing of Counfel, 17 May. Pelham, Herbert, Efq; Bill for Sale of Lands, read, * *. Come- mitted, 17 May. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 20. Penal Laws. Vide Laws. Petitions, Committee for receiving them appointed, 8 Apr. Vide Grievances. Plaiftering, and Bricklaying, Bill to reform Abufes therein, read, 9 Apr. Dafhed, 15. Pluralities. Vide Non-refidents, Priefis, popith. Vide Recufants. Privileges, Committee appointed, 8 Apr.—Motion touching the Commitment of Sir W. Bampfeild, after the Summons of Par- liament, but before his Election, referred to the Committee, g Apr. Vide Bamfeild—Privilege to a Member, for Stay of a Trial, 10 May.—Breach of Privilege committed by a Counfel at the Bar, 17 May. Party reprimanded at the Bar, ftand- ing, 18. Precis and Superfedeas, Bill to prevent Abufes in procuring them, read, 6 May. Committed, 18. Puito, Mr. to bring in his Patent, 20 May, 18° & 19° Jac.I. Parl. 3. A. 1620, & 1621. P ALATINATE, Motions about it, 5 Feb. & 27 Apr. Refolution to affift the King in the Recovery thereof, and Committee appointed to draw it up, 4 June. Reported, and agreed to, and to be entered in the Journal, eod. die. King’s Meflage, defiring a Supply for it, to be communicated at a Conference, 20 Nov. Reported, 22. Debate thereon, 26 & 27, Committee of the whole Houfe to confider of it, 27. A Subfidy IN DEX vo the First VouumMeE. A Subfidy voted for it, 28. Motion for a Petition to the King about the Recovery of it, to be confidered, 29. Pardon, general, Debate about petitioning the King to enlarge it, 26 Apr. Claufe, to except Perfons accufed of any Crime by the Houfe, to be inferted in the Bill, 28 Nov. Pardons, Relation of Abufes committed by Officers in relation thereto, 26 Mar. Parks. Vide Warrens. Parliament, adjourned by Commiffion, 16 & 23 Jan. 4 June; 14 Nov. & 19 Dec.—Records of Punifhments infli¢ted by Parliament, reported, 8 Mar. Patents, for exporting Coin, and making gold and filver Thread, complained of, and to be confidered by the Committee of Grievances, 6 Feb. Vide Thread. — for Light-houfes at Wintertonneffe and Dungeonnefs, to be brought in, 27 Feb. Vide Light-houjfes. for licenfing [nns, Oftries, and Ale-houfes, Report touch- ing them, 27 Feb. Vide Inns. of Concealments complained of, 28 Feb. Vide Conceal- ments. for tranfporting Welfh Butter, to be brought in, 10 Mar. Vide Butter. to the French Company, to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, 10 & 20 Mar. 19 Apr. and 5 May. Petition againit it, 26 Apr. Company to attend, 24 May. ~»—— of the Staplers, Report touching it,13 Mar. Vide Mer- chants. for incorporating the Gardeners, to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, 18 Mar. of concealed Tythes, Report touching it, and Patent condemned, 19 Mar. -~~—-— to the Ship-carpenters, complained of, 19 Mar. Vide Shipwrights. Report touching the Patent for difpenfing with Rogues and Pedlars, and Patent condemned, 21 Mar. touching the Patent concerning Apprentices, and Patent condemned, 21 Mar. touching the Patent for ingroflfing Wills, and Patent condemned, 21 Mar. Sir Rob. Floyde, the Projector, ex- pelled, eod. die. ———- Patent of old Debts, to be brought to the Committee, 21 Mar. for nn, Tillage, to be brought to the Com- mittee, 21 Mar. ide Warrens. of Recognizances in Courts of Record, to be brought to the Committee, 21 Mar. Vide Saltonftall. for mortgaged Lands, to be brought in, 21 Mar. Vide Tichborne. to Mr. Lepton, for making Bills and Letters, to be brought in, 22 Mar. Vide Lepton. for Cuftom Clerks, to be brought in, 22 Mar. —~— to Mr. Hill, for feouring of Arms, to be brought in, 22 Mar. Complaint of the Bxercife of it during a Recefs, 17 Apr. Mr. Gray, one of the Patentees, to be fent for by the Serjeant, and the other Patentees to attend, eod. die. to Mr. Gyles, for Forfeitures of Cuitom Duties, to be brought in, 22 Mar. to Mr. Crow, for fole making of Iron Ordnance, com- plained of, 22 Mar. Debate about it, 26. ——— to Dr. Chambers, for Collection of Forfeitures on penal Laws, complained of, 22 Mar. — to Sir Jo. Townfend, for concealed Tolls, Report touch- ing it, and Patent condemned, 26 Mar. = for Fairs, Markets, and Leets, Motion about them, 26 Mar. -——— for Survey of Sea-coals at Neweaftle, Motion for bring- ing it in, 26 Mar. Order for confidering it, 18 Apr. To be brought in, 5 May. —-—- for figning Writs of Covenant, §c. complained of, 26 Mar. —--— to Baffano and Vaudrey, for fole Importation of Lobfters and Salmon, Report touching it, 18 Apr. Further Report, and Patent condemned, 25. for packing of Cod; againft Importation of Cards; for hard Wax; to the King’s Bargemen, for fole buying of Lam- pries ; for dilpenfing with the Hot-prefs; for Confervation of the Thames; and of the penal Law for Cafk againft the Sta- tute; to be feverally examined by the Committee of Griev- ances, 18 Apr. for making gold Foliate, Report touching it, 18 Apr. Further Report, and Patent condemned, 2 May. for Importation of Tobacco, complained of, 23 Apr. To be brought in, 25. to the Merchant-adventurers, to be confidered by the Committee of Grievances, 27 Apr. Clothiers to be heard upon their Petition againft it, 8 May. Petition from the Cinque Ports againft it,14. Debate, and Order thereupon, eod. die. - to the Mafters in Chancery, for References, Report touching it, 27 Apr. Vide Chancery. ¥ Sir Tho. Compton, touching Logwood, to be brought in, 2 May. for Glats, Report touching it, and Patent condemned, 16 May. Order about it, 19 Dec. —to Sir F. Gorge, for Reftraint of Fifhing in New Eng Jand, to be brought in, and Parties to attend, 20 Nov. Order for making the Report about it, 18 Dec. Further Orders re- lating thereto, 19. — Note of the Patents of Monopoly, to be brought in, 15 Mar. Prefented, 16.—Proceedings upon Patents againft the King’s Book, to be fufpended, 21 Mar.—Order for Stay of all Suits grounded upon Patents condemned, 26 Mar.—Sir E. Coke’s Speech and Motion againft granting Patents without a Writ of dd quod damnum, 17 Apr. Payne, Robert, Bill to naturalize him, read, 4 May. Pedlars. Vide Patents. Pembroke Election, Report touching it, 18 May. Time given to the fitting Member to be heard, eod. die. Penjions, from foreign States, Bill againft receiving them, read, 14 May. Committed, 25. Perpetuanoes. Vide Serges. Pctitions, Order about receiving them, 19 Apr. Pewterers, Bill touching them, read, and rejeéled, 14 May. Peyton-Hall. Vide Waller. Pluralities, Bill againft them, read, 26 Apr. Poniefraé, Borough of, Motion for reftoring it, referred to Committee of Privileges, 26 Mar. Report, and Writ ordered, 27. Sheriff to bring in the Return, 24 & 26 Apr. Poor, Bill for their Relief within London, and Three Miles thereof, read, 22 Mar. Committed, 2 May. — Bill to avoid the Charge for Relief of the Poor in Cities and Towns corporate, read, and rejected, 30 Apr. Poffeffion, Bill for Reftitution thereof, in certain Cafes, read, 16 Keb. Committed, 24 Mar. 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Report, and Order thereupon, ppt Sota: Rood of an Affront offered to Sir Rich. Gifford, and Party fent for by the Serjeant, 15 Mar.—Privilege waved, 27 Apr.—Granted to Mr. Chancellor’s Servant, and Under-theriff ordered to releafe him at the Bar, 11 May.— Member, ferved with a Subpcena, to have Privilege, and Party fent for by the Serjeant, 14 May.—Privilege granted to Sir James Whitelocke’s Servant arrefted, and Parties fent for, 28 May. Examined at the Bar, 4 June. Debate, and Order touching their Punifhment, eod. die—Order far continuance of Privi- lege, during an Adjournment, 1 June.—Motion about the Im- prifonment of Sir Edw. Sandys, 23 Nov. Vide Sandys.— Complaint INDEX @ the First Vouume. Complaint of a Breach of Privilege by Goldfmyth and Lepton, in profecuting Sir Edw. Coke, 24 Nov. Vide Coke.—of a Sub- poena ferved upon Mr. Brereton, 29 Nov. Vide Napper.—of a Citation ferved upon him, and W arrant ordered for the Party, 30 Nov.—Debate about the Privileges of the Houfe, upon Oc- cafion of the King’s Letter touching the Petition concerning Religion, 5 Dec. To be confidered in a Committee of the whole Houfe, eod. die. Declaration, relating thereto, reported, and to be ingrofled, 7 Dec. Motion for the Speaker’s attend- ing the King therewith, over-ruled, eod. die. Meflengers ap- pointed, 7 & 8 Dec. King’s Antwer thereto, reported, 14. Debate thereon, 14 & 15. Grand Committee to confider there- of, and of all Things concerning the Privileges of the Houfe, 15 & 17. Debate touching another Letter from the King re- lating thereto, 17. Proteftation concerning the Privileges of the Houle, reported, and agreed to, and to be entered in the Journal, 18. P:oéior’s Bill read, and rejeéted, 9 May. Prohibition, Bill concerning Probate of Suggeftions in Cafes there- of, read, 23 Mar, Committed, 16 May. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 24. Projectors. Vide Grievances, and Patents. Promoters. Vide Informers. Proteétions, granted by Members, complained of, and Orders againft them, 15 & 22 Mar. 20 Nov.—Mefiage from the King, about Protections, 20 Mar. Provifo, inferted by Miftake in a Bill ordered to be ingroffed, and Committee to rectify it, 8 May.—Tendered to ingrofled Bills in Paper, not to be put to Queftion, 26 May. Purfuivants, Petition againft them, for compounding with Priefts, referred to Committee for Recufanis, 5 May. Purveyors. Vide Carriages. 21° & 22° Jac.I. Parl. 4. A. 1623, & 1624. P AINSWICKE Manor, Bill for Confirmation of a De- cree in Chancery relating thereto, read, 20 Mar. To be ingrofled, 24. Pafled, 25. Palatinate. Vide Treaties. Pallavacyne, Toby, Efq; Bill from the Lords, to enable him to fell Lands, 15 May. Read twice, and committed, 19. Re- ported, and paffed, 20. Papijis. Vide Recufants. Pardon, general, Heads of it, propofed by the King, reported, 24 Apr.—Bill fent from the Lords, 26 May. Pafled, 27. Re- turned to the Lords, 28. Parliament, adjourned by Commiffion, 12 & 16 Feb. Caufes of calling it to be communicated to both Houfes at a Confe- rence, 23. Parfons, and Vicars, in the Univerfity of Cambridge, not to vote in Election of Knights of the Shire, 28 May. Patent, of the Gold-wire-drawers, to be brought to the Com- mittee of Grievances, 4 Mar. Vide Gold-wire-drawers. fo Dr. Chambers, for old Debts upon Sheriffs Accounts, to be brought to the Houfe, 8 Mar. & 19 Apr. To be confi- dered, 21 Apr. Committee appointed to confider of it, 22. Report, 1 May. of the Merchant-adventurers and the Eaft-land Com- pany, to be brought to the Committee for Trade, 10 Mar. Vide Trade. for Survey of Sea-coals, Report touching il, 13 Mar. Vide Sea-coals. . of the pretermitted Cuftoms, to be brought to the Com- mittee for Trade, 13 Mar. Vide Trade. to Sir F. Gorge, for Reftraint of Fifhing in New Eng- land, condemned, 17 Mar. Vide Fifhing. to the feparate Apothecaries, condemned, 6 Apr. Vide Grievances. to Sir Rob. Manfell, for making Glafs, to be brought in, ig Apr. To be confidered, 21. Committee appointed to con- fider of it, 22. Report, 1 May. ‘To be heard, whether a Grievance, or not, eod. die. to Sir Rich. Young, for ingroffing of fome Letters Pa- tents, to be brought in, 19 Apr. To be confidered, 21. Com- mittee appointed to confider of it, 22. Report, 1 May. of the Subpoena Office, to be brought in, ig Apr. Vide Subpena Office. to Mr. Chambers, for Fines and Amerciaments fet by the Clerk of the Market, to be brought in, 19 Apr. to Sir Will. St. John for Ginny and Binny, to be brought to the Committee for Trade, 19 Apr. Vide Trade. of the Hamper, to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, 23 Apr. for printing on one Side, Petition againft it, 24 Apr. Vide Briefs. of Concealments, Report touching it, 28 Apr. Vide Concealments. ——— es penfing with Tranfportation of Cloths unwrought, Vou. I. and eating of Fleth, complained of, and to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, 28 Apr. for making red Lead, to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, and Patentee to attend, 29 Apr. to the Eaft India Company, to be brought to the Coms mittee of Grievances, 30 Apr. Vide Trade. to Mr. Peck, to be brought to the Committee of Griev- ances, 30 Apr. Tobe delivered to the Patentee, and to be produced, when required, 25 May. - to Sir Will. Hewett, Committee appointed to perufe it, 1 May. : to Mr. Johnes, Petition of Soap-boilers againft it, and to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, 5 May. to Mr. Evelyn, concerning Powder, to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, 10 May. for keeping York Gaol, Copy of it tendered, and to be confidered by the Committee of Grievances, 13 May. Com- mittee appointed to confider of it, and all other Patents for keeping of Gaols, 19. Patents to be brought to the Com- mittee, and Patentees to attend, eod. die. Report touching York and Lancafter Gaols, 21 May. Debate, and Refolutions there- on, 24. Petition to the King concerning them, read, and al- lowed, 25. Serjeant at Arms fent for feveral Patentees, not bringing in their Patents according te Order, 15 May. Report touching Sir Jo. Meldrum’s Patent for a Light- houfe at Wintertonnefle, 19 May. Vide Wintertonneffe. Report touching the Patent and Proclamation concerning the Staplers, 26 May. Patent condemned, and Reftitution to be made to the Parties injured thereby, eod. die. Petition of Grievance to be prepared thereon, eod. die. Order for re-delivering the Patents, not condemned, to the Parties, who brought them, 29 May. Patentees of Crown Lands. Vide King. Peals. Vide Salmon. Peck, Mr. Motion againft him, for difobeying an Order for bring- ing in his Patent, and Order thereupon, 30 Apr. His Petition - to be confidered by the Lord Mayor and Juftices of Peace, 25 May. Vide Patents. Pembrokefhire Election, Report touching a Complaint of undue Praétices therein, and Refolution thereupon, 28 May. Penjfions, Bill againft receiving them from any foreign Prince, read, 23 Mar. Committed, 12 May. Reported, and re committed, 15. Reported, and to be ingrofled, eod. die. Pafled, 20. Perpetuanoes. Vide Serges. Petitions, touching Eleétions, to be prefented within Fourteen Days, 25 Feb.—Committee appointed to view the Petitions prefented, and a Catalogue of them to be made, 19 May.— Not proceeded upon, to be delivered to the Clerk, to be kept till the next Seffion, 28 May. Plumfitead Marth. Vide Earith. Pointz, Sir James, Bill for Sale of the Manor of Abbotts Hall, according to his Will, read, 28 Apr. Committed, 30. Re- ported, and to be ingroffed, * *. Pafled, 19 May. Pomfret Election, and double Return, Confideration of it re- ferred to Committee of Elections, and both Parties returned to ftay out of the Houfe, 22 Mar. Petition from Pomfret pre- fented, and read, 1 Apr. Report touching the Return, eod. die. Merits of the Eleétion to be confidered by the Committee, eod. die. Left to the choice of Sir Jo. Jackfon, one of the Bur- geffes, to come into the Houfe, or forbear, cod. die. Report, and Refolution touching the Right of Election, 28 May. New Writ ordered, eod. die. Poor. Vide Hofpitals.—Bill for better Relief of the Poor, read, 7 May. Committed,8. Referred to a Member, to be framed againtt the next Seflion, 28. Popham, Sir Francis, returned, in a double Return for Chippen- ham, Debate about admitting him into the Houfe, and Mat- ter referred to Committee of Privileges, 25 Feb. Vide Chip- penham. Poffefion, Bill to enable Juftices of Peace to reftore it, in certain Cafes, read, 3 Mar. Poft-mafiers, to attend the Committee of Grievances, 23 Apr. Powder, Motion about the want of it, and Patent concerning it, to be brought in, 10 May. Prayer, and Thankfgiving, to be ufed at the Parting of the Par- ‘liament, to be brought in, 27 May. Preacher, before the Houfe. Vide Bargrave. Prince, aflifts at Conferences between both Houfes, 24 Feb. 3. 12. 15. & 22, Mar. 10 Apr. & 22 May. Committee to pre- pare a Meflage of Thanks to him, 12 Mar. Reported, and agreed to, eod. die. Prevails with the King to allow both Houfes a Week’s longer Time, 20 May. Undertakes to acquaint the King with the Petition touching Recufants in Places of Truft, 21 May. Bill to enable him to make Leafes of the Duchy of —— wall, e ‘ INDEX @o the First Votwume. wall, read, 3 Mar. Committed,9. Reported, and to be in- groffed, 11. Paffed, 13. : Bill from the Lords, to enable the Lady Dudley to affure feveral Lands to the Prince, 13 Mar. Vide Dudley. Bill for fecuring the Manor of Goteland to him, read, 13 Mar. Vide Goteland. ‘ Bill from the Lords, to confirm an Exchange of Lands between him and Sir Lewis Watfon, 18 Mar. Read, 20. Committed, g Apr. Reported, and pafled, 12. Printing Patent. Vide Briefs. Prifoners. Vide Debts. Privileges, Committee appointed, 23 Feb.—Debate about the Means of preferving the Privileges of the Houfe, and Com- mittee appointed to confider thereof, 27 Feb.—Privilege grant- ed for Stay of Proceedings at Law, 27 Feb. 2 & g Mar. 14. 17. & 23, Apr. & 8 May.—to Sir Jo. Stanhope’s Servant, ar- refted, 1 Apr. Warrant to releafe him, and to fend for the Parties, eod. die—Motion for Privilege to Mr. Godfrey’s Bai- liff, arrefted, and Under-fheriff to attend, 10 Apr. Writ of Privilege ordered, 28.—Motion touching the Mafter of the Felt-makers, ‘arrefted, coming to the Houfe to prefer a Pe- tition, and Committee for Courts of Juftice to confider of it, 14 Apr. 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Commiffion for adjourning the Parliament, fent from the Lords, 11 July. Patrons. Vide Clergy. Petitions, touching Eleétions, Motion for limiting the time of receiving them, 21 June. Pirates, Turkith, Letters concerning them, read, and Committee of the whole Houfe to confider thereof, 11 Aug. Players, Meffage to the Lord Chamberlain, to reftrain their going into the Country, 6 July. His Anfwer reported, and Thanks returned him by the Houfe, 9. Preachers, before the Houfe, appointed, 21 & 22 June. Prifouers, committed by the Houte, to petition, and not write Letters, 8 Aug. Privileges, Committee appointed, 21 Jane.—Letter to be written by the Speaker, for Stay of a Suit againft Sir Fr. Wortley in the Star-chamber, and Committee of Privileges to confider of the Coniempt, 5 July. Precedent of Privilege, by Stay of a Suit in the King’s Name, cited thereupon, eod. die.—Letters to be written by the Speaker, for Stay of Proceedings at Law, 5 & 6 July.—Motion for continuance of Privilege, dering an Ad- journment, referred to the Committee, 6 July.—Privilege to a Member, ferved with a Subpoena, and Party ferving it fent for by the Serjeant, 7 July.—Privilege to Mr. Baffett, arrefted, and afterwards chofen a Member, 8 July. Vide Baffett—to a Member’s Servant, 6 Aug. : Proteftation, agreed upon, to be prefented to the King, and to be entered in the Journal, 12 Aug. 1° & 2° Car. 1. Parl. 2. A. 1625, & 1626. pP4 PISTS. Vide Church-papifis, and Recufants. Parliament, diffolved, 15 June. Patents, complained of. Vide Grievances. Patrons. Vide Clergy. Piggot, Richard, Bill to make him liable to the Statutes touching Bankrupts, read, 5 June: Committed, 14. Pirates. Vide Captives, and Grievances. Piayhoufe, in Black-tryers, Report from Committee of Griev- ances, touching a Complaint againé it, and Lord Chamberlain defired to take Order therein, 28 Feb, His Anfwer reported, 11 Mar. Poor, Bill for their Relief in Cities and Towns-corporate, read, g Mar.—Another Bill for their Relief, read, 11 Mar. Commit- ted,2 May. Committee to review the former Laws, and con- fider of reducing them into one, eod. die. Report touching the taking of Apprentices without Money, and Bill for it prefented, and read, g May. Porter, Jo. Vide Levett. Powell, Samuel, and Jane, Bill from the Lords, to naturalize them, 15 Apr. Read, 2 May. Committed, 1 June. Report- ed, 2. Preaching, Bill concerning the hearing of it, twice read, and .. committed, 25 May. Priests, popifh. Vide Recufants, and Religion. Prifoners, Bill for their Employmentand Inftruction, read, 4 Mar. Committed, 8. Reported, and rejected, 18. Privileges, Committee appointed, 9 Feb.—Motion for Privilege to Sir Tho. Badger’s Servant, and Keeper of the Gatehoufe to attend, eod. die. Examined at the bar, eod. die. Committee to confider of the Manner of releafing the Prifoner, 10 Feb, Report, and to be releafed by Habeas Corpus, 15. Difcharged at the Bar, 17.—Motion for Privilege to Mr. Gifford, a Mem- ber, arrefted after his Eleétion, but before the Return, 9 Feb. Vide Gifford.—for Privilege to Mr. Whitaker’s Servant, and Keeper of the Prifon to attend, 10 Feb. Examined, 11. Pariy releafed at the Bar, eod.die—Privilege by Stay of Proceedings at Law, 10. 25. & 27, Feb. 1, 2. 4.15. & 24, Mar. 27 & 28 Apr. 20 May; & o June.—Precedent cited, of a Breach of Privilege, in one Parliament, being punified in another, 17 Feb.—Privilege to Mr. Bulftrode’s Servant, and Parties fent for, 20 Feb. Vide Weymouth.—to Lord Lambert, imprifoned in the Fleet, and Warden to deliver up all Bonds taken about his Imprifonment, 24 Feb.—to Sir H. 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Retolution of the Grand Committee, touching a Proteftation, reported, and Orders thereupon, 13 May. Conference to be defired with the Lords, and Sub-committee to prepare the Heads of it, 15. Meflage from the King, concerning this Matter, 16. Heads of the Con- ference reported, and re-committed, 17. Form of a Meflage to the Lords, reported, and re-committed, 19. Agreed to, and to be delivered to the Lords, eod. die. Committee for the Re- monftrance to meet, 20 May. Committee of the whole Houfe to confider, whether fit to defire a Conference with the Lords, 3 June. Further Inftrufiions to this Committee, 5. Houle turned into a Grand Committee about the Remonfirance, 6 & 10 June. A Declaration reported, and re-committed, 12. To be ingrofled, 13. Agreed to, and to be prefented to the King by the whole Houle, 14. Meflage to the King, for Ac- cefs, eod. die. His Anfwer thereto, eod. die. Copies of the Declaration to be delivered to any Members, 15 June. Vide Digges and Ellyott—Privilege granted to Mr, Smalman’s Ser- vant, taken in Execution, and Habeas Corpus ordered, 16 May. Difcharged at the Bar, and Officers fent for, 23.—Mo- tion for Privilege to Mr. More, by Stay of aJudgment upon a Nihil dicit, and Order thereupon, 20 May. Matter referred toa Committee, eod: die.—Privilege to a Witnels, fent for to the Committee for Courts of Juftice, 24 May.—to Sir Jo. Strang- wayes, for Difcharge of a Difiringas againft him, 1 June.—to Sir H. Grimftone’s Servant, arretted, 14 June. Bill, concerning divers Privileges of Parliament, read, 12 June. Committed, 13. ‘ Purveyance, Report touching the Patent for it, 25 May. Voted a Grievance, eod. die. Committee appointed to confider of the other Abufes of Purveyors, and to prefent them, with the for- mer Grievance, to the King, eod. die. Qe INDEX © the 3 & 4° Car.I. Parl. 3. Sef 1. A. 1627, & 1628. ARDON, Attorney-general to be defired to fend the Heads of it, and Precedents to that Purpofe cited, 13 June. His Anfwer reported, 16. King’s refufal to a him Leave to fend them, reported,17. Bill fent from the Lords,23. _Com- mittee to perufe it, eod. die. Reported, and to be confidered in a Committee of the whole Houle, 25 June. Parliament, prorogued, 26 June. BB, Bill, concerning Liberties of Parliament, read, 22 Mar. Committed, 28 Apr. . Committee appointed, to examine a Book, concerning Proceedings in Parliament, 11 Apr. Bod ‘— Philip, ordered into Cuttody, for coming into the oufe, and Committee to examine him, 2 Apr. Report, 3. Difcharged, eod. die. Patents, complained of. Vide Grievances. Payne, Peter Van, Bill to naturalize him, read, 17 May. Peck, Mr. fent for by the Serjeant, for refufing to bring in his Patent, as required, 8 May. His Petition read, 12. Dif- charged, bringing in the Patent, eod. die. Petition for Re-delivery of it, and Committee appointed to examine it, 17 June. Peer, of Ireland, admitted within the Bar at the hearing of Counfel in his Behalf, 19 June. Pemberton, Mr. complained of for arrefting Mr. Rafhley’s Ser- vant, and ordered to attend, 22 Apr. Sent for by the Serjeant, for difobeying the Order, and ufing offenfive Words, 25. Com- mittee to examine the Contempt, and he to remain in Cuftody, 26. Report, 30. Difcharged, paying Fees, eod. die. Petition, to the King, fora Faft, 20 Mar. Vide Fuft—for exe- cuting the Laws againft Jefuits, &c. 26 Mar. Vide Jefuits.— about a new Impofition upon Wines, 9 Apr. Vide Wane-mer- chants.—about billeting Soldiers, 10 Apr. Vide Soldiers —for the Enlargement of Mr. Clegatt, 2 May. Vide Clegatt.— about Mrs. Milborne’s Children, and the Punifhment of Wal- ter Brooke, 24 May. Vide Milborne.—about Coat and Con- duét Money, 12 June.—touching the Summer Iflands, 16 June. Vide Summer Iflands. Petilion of Right, Committee appointed to prepare it, 28 Apr. Draught of it reported, and agreed to, 8 May. Conference defired with the Lords thereupon, and agreed to, eod. die. Re- ported, 9 May. Another Conference, defired by the Lords, held, and reported, 12. King’s Letter to the Lords, and their Alterations, to be confidered, eod. die. Debate thereupon, and Committee of the whole Houfe to confider of the Alterations propounded, 13 May. Another Conference defired by the Lords, and Antfwer thereto, eod. die. Report touching the Al- terations, and Committee appointed to aflign Reafons for difa- greeing with the Lords therein, eod. die. Reafons to be given at the Conference, for not meddling with the Letter, 14 May. Conference held, and reported, eod. die. Another ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- r- ~ vant, 22 Apr. Vide Pemberton.—Sir S. Steward to have Privi- ' lege, notwithftanding his being bound in a Recognizance, not to.claim it, 28 Apr. Further Orders thereupon, 30.—Proceed- ings npon the Commitment of Sir H. Stanhope, .on Occafion of a Challenge, 3. 5. & 8, May.—Privilege to Ar. Harris, ferved with a Subpoena, and Party fent for, 10 May. Vide Lyfier.—to Mr. Secretary Cooke’s Servant, for his Goods diftrained, and a Warrant for the Parties, 14 May.—to a Member returned upon a Jury, 15 May.—to Sir John Ellyott’s Servant, arrefited, and Parties fent for, 1g May.—to Sir Edw. Denny’s Servant, arrefted, 20 May. Parties fent for, 20 & 22. Vide Skinner, and Hopkinfon.—Privilege to Mr. Jenner’s Servant, and Party fent for, 26 May.—to Mr. Valentine, ferved with a Subpoena, and Party fent for, 27 May.—to Sir Guy Palmes’s Servant, arrefted, and Keeper and Serjeant fent for, 28 May.—to Mr. Vaughan’s Servant, arrefted, and Parties fent for, 3 June.—to Sir Jo. Hotham, for Stay of a Trial, 13 June. —to Sir Jo. Davers, ferved with a Subpoena, and Party fent for, 18 June. Further Order thereupon, eod. die.—Privilege to Mr. Wylde’s Servant, arrefted, and Parties fent for, 20 June.—to Sir Geo. Grifley, ferved with a Subpoena, and Par- ties fent for, 21 June.—to Sir Edw. Ofborne’s Servants, and Parties fent for, 25 June. Bill from the Lords, to explain an Act 1 Jac. touching Perfons delivered out of Execution by Privilege of Parliament, 27 May. 4e Car.1. Parl.3. Seffi2. A. 1628. PA RLIAMENT, adjourned by the King’s Command, 25 Feb. & 2 Mar. Patent, for taking Toll at certain Bridges in Yorkthire, Com- laint of the Execution of it fince it was condemned, and Mr. ety the Patentee, fent for by the Serjeant, 23 Jan.——for Examination of Witneffes in the County of Chefter, Com- plaint of the Execution of it fince condemned, and Patentees fent for, 12 Feb.—for Medway River, Petition againtt it, referred to Committee of Grievances, 16 Feb. Perriman, John, fent for by the Serjeant, for ferving a Subpoena upon Mr. Specket, 29 Jan. & 16 Feb. Examined, and dif- charged, 17 Feb. Petition of Right, Committee appointed to fearch touching the Enrolment of it, 21 Jan. To examine the Entry of the King’s Speech in the Journal relating thereto, eod. die. Re- port touching the King’s Speech, and Order thereupon, eod. die. Committee of the whole Houfe to confider of the Vio- lation of the Petition of Right, eod. die. Vide Rodlles.—King’s Printers examined, touching the printing of it, 21 & 22 Jan. To attend with the Warrant for printing it, with the King’s first Anfwer thereto, and his Speech concerning it, 22 & 23 Jan. Order for the meeting of the Committee, for Search of the Enrolment of it, 23.27. & 30, Jan. Additional Com- mittees, 30. Petitioners, called in, and avow their Petitions, 16 Feb. Popery. . Vide Religion. Popham, Sir Francis. Vide Sutton. Preaching, Bill touching the hearing of it, read, 22 Jan. Com- f mitted, 23. T Pregion, INDEX tothe First Vouume. Pregion, John, bis Petition and Articles againft Aleyne, read, go Jan. Examined thereon, eod. die. To have the Speaker's Warrant for Witnefles, eod. die. Privileges, former Committee to ftand,21 Jan.— Privilege grant- ed to Perfons, to follow Bills and Petitions, 22 & 29 Jan. 13 Feb. —Breach of Privilege, committed by the Cuftomers, in feizing Mr. Rolles’ Goods, complained of, 22 Jan. Vide Rolles—Complaint of a Procets, ferved upon Serjeant Digges, and Parties fent for, 24 Jan. Vide Bold, and Herbert.—of a Subpeena ferved upon Sir Lionel Talmage, and Party fent for, 24 Jan.—Privilege to Mr. Crompton, ferved with a Subpoena, and Party fent for, 27 Jan. Vide Deane.—Information given, of Words fpoken againft the Parliament, and Party to be fent for, eod. die Privilege to Sir Edw. Ofborne, fummoned to appear in the Court of Requefts, and Party fent for, eod. die. — to Sir G. Bridges, ferved with a Capias, and Party fent for, 28 Jan.—Complaint of a Letter, fent to Mr. Wyld, about an Eleétion, referred to Committee of Privileges, eod. die—Pri- vilege to Mr. Specket, ferved with a Subpoena, 29 Jan. Parties fent for, 29 Jan. & 16 Feb. Vide Perriman.—Letter to be written for fupprefling Depofitions in a Caufe, concerning Sir H. Baggot, 29 Jan.—Motion for Leave to Sir Jo. Eppefley to anfwer a Petition againft him, at the Lords, eod. die. Orde ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- red to be debated in the Houfe, 4 June.— Carried in Committee binding upon themfelves, but not upon the Houfe, eod. die. 7° & 8 Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Seff: 4. A. 1609, & 1610. Q) UEEN, Bill from the Lords, to confirm a Grant made.to ‘her, 5 May. Read, 7. Quejtion, Motion, that every.thing propounded may be put there- to, and not pafs with a general Opinion of Voice, 27 Feb.— Member goiag out after a Queftion put, taken to be an Of- fence, and Queftion put again, 31 Mar.—In a Queftion for calling a Perfon to the Bar, the Noes go forth, eod. die. 12° Jac. I. Parl. 2. A. 1614. UESTION, previous, propofed by the Speaker, objected to, 8 Apr.—Nothing to pafs without a Queftion affirmative and negative, 13 Apr.—Reafons urged by the Speaker againft putting a Queftion, 26 May. 18° & 19° Jac. I. Parl. 3. A. 1620, & 1621. UARREL, between Two Members. Vide Coke, Mr. Queftion, not to be fpoken to after it is put, 13 Feb.—To be put again, if doubtful, 13 Feb. & 17 May.—The Noes to go out, in a Queftion for punifhing a Delinquent, 13 Feb—Quef- tion yielded, without a Divifion, eod..die.—No Member to be concluded by a Queftion paffed, if the fame Matter come in — by Bill, 3 May.—Queftion not neceffary, when the oufe concurs in a Motion propounded by the Speaker, without Gontradiction, 28 Nov. : 21° & 22° Jac. I. Parl. 4. A. 1623, & 1624. 4 ee ST ION, Members retiring, and refufing to give Voice therein, fent for, and their Names taken down, 28 May. 1° Car. I. Parl. 1. A. 1625. Q UESTION, previdus, put, 21 June. 1° & 2° Car. I. Parl. 2. A. 1625, & 1626. Q UARTE R Seffions, Bill for holding them in each County in the ufual Places, read, 3 May. Queftion, Members not allowed to go out without voting therein, 24 Apr.—A Rule, who are to go out in a Divifion upon any Queftion, 11 May. 3° & 4° Car. I. Parl. 3. Seff. 1. A. 1627, & 1628. Q UARREL. Vide Stanhopp. Quefior, de, Mr. Vide Grievances. 4 Car. I. Parl. 3. Sef: 2. A. 1628. QUES TION, previous, put, 22 Jan. 1° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sef. 1. A. 1547. AGLER’s Office. Vide Wales. Records, Bill for a Treafure-houfe in every Shire, for keep- - ing them, read, 15 Noy. Refiiiution, Bills of. Vide Lumley, Rife, and Stafford. Riche, Lord, Bill from the Lords, for Affurance of Lands to him and Mr. Shelley, read, 15 & 16 Dec. Paffed, 17. Rife, Griffith, Bill from the_Lords, for his Reftitution, thrice read, and paffed, 22 Dec. Roches, Bill tor deftroying the Fry of them, read, 15 Nov. 2° & 3° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sef: 2. A. 1548. RECOVERIES, Bill for Ufes thetein, read, and com- mitted, 18 Dec. Recufants, Bill fromm the Lords, for qualifying the Aé& 26 H. VIII. touching their Payment of Tenths of their Benefices, read, 8 & 27 Feb. Paffed, 6 Mar. Regrators, and Foreftallers, Articles againft them, committed, 30 an. Bill againft them, read, 20 Feb. Committed, 1 Mar. Vide Corn, Prakees, and Wool. Relief, Articles forit,1 Feb. Vide Sudbjidy. Rents. Vide Leafes. Refiitution, Bills of. Vide Bigott, Bulmer, Carew, Charleton, Darcy, Percye, and Wefton. " Rochefter, Bill from the Lords, for uniting Two Churches there, read, 7 & 11 Mar. Paffed, 12. Romney INDEX ¢@ the First VouuME. Ridley, Dr. late Bifhop of London, Bill to confirm Leafes made Romney Marth, Bill from the Lords, for re-edifying the Houfes, read, 12 Mar. Rye Haven. Vide Camber. 3°& 4° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sef. 3. A. 1549. EBELLIONS, and Commotions, Bill from the Lords, for fupprefling them, 19 Nov. Read, eod. die. Committed, 23.—New Bill read, 5. 10, 11. 13. 16, & 17 Dec. Debated, 20. Paffed, 23. Rebels, Bill relating to Gifts made of their Lands and Goods, read,24 & 30 Jan. Vacated, 31. Regrators. Vide Corn, Sewers, and Wool. Relief, A& of. Vide Subfidy. Riots. Vide fupra Rebellions. Ruffell, Sir Francis, Son and Heir of the Earl of Bedford, Order ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- erence with the Lords, 19. Meffage from the Lords, defiring a Sub-committee may be named to conter, eod. die. Grand Committee to name a Sub-committee, eod. die. Report of the Conference, 24 May. Another Conference defired with the Lords, and agreed to, eod. die. Report, and Debate thereupon, 8 June. Committee to fearch Precedents, to warrant the Houfe to meddle in Matters of Religion, eod. die. To draw a Petition to the King, for difpenfing with Minifters in Matters indifferent, eod. die. Report, 13 June. Petition read, and debated, eod.die. To be prefented to the King, 16. Conference defired with the Lords, touching an Inftrument, delivered from the Convocation-houfe at the former Con- ference, 21. Agreed to, 28. Report, 2 July. Refiitution, Bills of. Vide Arundell, Effex, Littleton, Lucas, Norfolk, Pagett, and Southampton. Bill, inhibiting the Reftitution of Recufants, and Perfons refufing to take the Oath of Supremacy, read, 26 May. Com- mitted, 30. Rivers, navigable, Bill to reftrain the Erection of Wears, or other Obfiructions, therein, read, * *. Committed, 23 June. Rodney, Sir George, Bill for fettling his Lands, read, 23 Apr. Committed, 26. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 30. Pazfled, 7 May. Sent to the Lords, 10. Rogues, Vagabonds, and fturdy Beggars, Bill to explain the A& 39 Eliz. touching them, read, 1 May. Committed, 5. Re- ported, and to be ingroffed, 12. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 19. Returned, with Amendments, 16 June, Sent back, 23. Vou. I, Apr. Com- Roufe, Sir Thomas, Bill for Sale of Lands for Payment of his Debts, read, 23 May. Committed, 25. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 26. Pafled, 4 June. Sent to the Lords, g, Return- ed, with Amendments, 12. Amendments agreed to, 16. 3° & 4° Jac. 1. Parl.1. Sef. 2. A. 1605, & 1606. ADIPOLL, Parfon of, Bill for his Relief, read, 22 Jan. Committed, 23. Rates, Book of, Officers of the Cuftoms heard touching it, 10 May. Voted a Grievance, eod. die. Recufants, Committee appointed to confider of Articles for a Bill againft them, 21 Jan. Proceedings of the Sub-committee reported, and to be delivered to the general Committee, 25. Articles to be perfected, 31. Reported, 1 Feb, Proceedings thereon, 3, 4, 5,6, & 7. Conference defired by the Lords, touching this Matter, and agreed to, 3 Feb. Report, and Articles to be delivered to the Lords, 7. New Articles, 8. Proceedings thereon, 10. Articles, from the Lords, read, and referred to the Committee, 12. Another Conference defired by the Lords, agreed to, eod.die. Article, touching Recufants dwelling in London, read, and referred, 13 Feb. Managers appointed for the Conference, 17. Report, 27. Proceedings thereon, 27 & 28 Feb. & 1 Mar. Committee appointed to draw Bills againft Recufants, 5 Mar.—Bill for difcovering and reprefling them, and preferving the King’s Subjects in their due Obedience, read, 11 Mar. Committed, 14. Reported, and re-committed, 25. Reported, with a new Title, and to be ingroffed, 7 Apr. Pafled, and fent to the Lords, 14. Conference defired by the Lords thereon, and agreed to, 10 May. Report, and Committee to confider of their Exceptions, 14. Report of their Proceedings, 17. Another Conference defired with the Lords, and agreed to, eod. die. Report, 20 May. Bill fent from the Lords, with Amendments, aud Re- commendation, 26. Amendments read twice, and committed, eod. die. Reported, and agreed to, 27.—Bill for the con- forming of Recufants to the true Religion, read, 13 Mar. Committed, 14.—Bill for preventing Dangers by Recufants, twice read, and committed, 31 Mar. Reported, and to be in- groffed, 8 Apr. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 14. Returned, with Amendments, 26 May. Amendments agreed to, 27. Lords to be advifed with, touching the Removal of Recufants Twenty Miles from London, 22 Mar. Religion, Committee appointed, to confider thereof, 22 Jan. Order for their Meeting, 28. King’s Meflage ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- them, 27. Refo- lutions of the Committee reported, and Petition to be drawn, 28. Grand Committee to fit to receive it, 1 Dec. Petition reported, and read, 3. Debate upon the Claufe, touching the Prince’s Marriage, eod. die. Petition amended, and agreed to, and Meffengers appointed to deliver it, eod. die. Petition read again, and delivered to the Meffengers, 4 Dec. King’s Letter to the Speaker concerning it, read, and Meffengers recalled, eod. die. Further Proceedings thereon, 6 & 7 Dec. Vide Privileges.—Reculants to pay double Sublidy, 28 Nov. ———- Committee to confider of the Statutes againft Recufants, and the Means of enforcing them, 17 Feb.—to draw a Bill againtt Frauds in finding Inquifitions of their Lands, 2 Mar. —Bill for Explanation of a Statute 3 Jac. for difcovering and fupprefling them, read, * *. Committed,2 Mar. The fame Committee to confider of Means to prevent Frauds in finding of Inquifitions in favour of Recufants, eod. die. Bill reported, and to be ingrofled, 26 Mar. Paffed, 24 Apr.—Bill for due Execution of former Laws made againft them, read, 26 Apr. Committed, 4 May. Petition againft Purfuivants, com- pounding with Priefis, and Recufants, prefented, and re- ferred, 5. Redferne, Mr. his Bill read, 7 Feb. Committed, 16 Mar. Re- ported, and to be ingroffed, 27 Apr. First VoLuME. Regrators, Bill for Repeal of Part of an A& 5 Edw. VI. againft them, read, 21 Apr. Religion, Debate touching the State of it, 26 Nov. Vide Recu- ants. Po Vide Privileges. Reftitution, Bill of. Vide Raleigh. Revenue. Vide King. —s on, Mr. Serjeant, chofen Speaker, 30 Jan. peaker.. Ring Lotteries, Meffage from the King, concerning them, and Anfwer thereto, 26 Feb. Houfe informed of a Proclamation againft them, 7 Mar. Rochefter Ele&tion, Report concerning it, 3 Mar. Mayor of, ordered to attend the Committee of Griev- ances, 17 Apr. Rogues, Patent for difpenfing with the Statute concerning them, voted a Grievance, 21 Mar, Bill for fending of Rogues and Vagabonds to the Houfe of Correétion, and punifhing Conftables neglecting their Duty, read, 20 Apr. Committed, 22 Nov. Vide 21° & 22° Jac. 1. Parl. 4. A. 1623, & 1624, RAMPTON Manor. Vide Alcock. Rawleigh, Carew, Bill for his Reftitution, read, 3 Apr. Takes the Oaths, 6. Queftion about the Bill’s beginning with the Commons, and Committee appointed to fearch Precedents in relation thereto, eod. die. Report,8 Apr. Bill committed, eod. die. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 27 Apr. Patfled, 9 28. Recufants, Bill for explaining a Statute 3 Jac. for difeovering and reprefling them, read, 24 Feb. To be ingroffed, 25. eg mittee to perufe it, when ingroffed, eod. die. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 6 Mar.—Bill for Education of their Children, read, 1 May.—New Bill read, 5 May. Orders touching Members keeping Recufant Servants, 25 Feb.—Committee appointed to draw a Meflage to the Lords concerning popifh Prietis, and Recufants, eod. die. Re- lation of the Proceedings of a Recufant, ftiling himfelf Bithop of Calcedon, eod. die. Further Debate about Recufants, 26 Feb. Meffage to the Lords to be ftayed, eod. die. Matter touching Religion and Recufants, to be confidered in a Com- mittee of the whole Houfe, 1 Apr. Confidered, 2. Sub- committee to draw Articles, to be prefented to the King againft Recufants, eod. die. Matter further confidered in a Committee of the whole Houfe, 3 Apr. Petition, and Ar- ticles, reported, and agreed to, eod. die. Conference defired with the Lords thereupon, eod. die. Held, and reported, eod. die. Petition of one Tendering, offering to difcover the Practices of Recufants, read, and Committee appointed to examine him, eod. die. Meflage from the Lords, about the Petition, 5 Apr. Conference defired by the Lords, con- cerning it, 6. 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Committee appointed tomanage it, 20, Another Conference defired by the Lords, 3 July. Reported, 4. Amendments, made by the Lords, confidered, and agreed to, eod. die. Bill fent back to the Lords, 5 July. ——— expired by the Death of Q. Eliz. to be revived by fpecial Bills, 24 Mar. Bill for reviving feveral, twice read, and com- mitted, 22 June. Bill for betiey Execution of penal Statutes, read, 2 Apr. Strangers. Vide Aliens. Subjects, Bill to confirm to them their ancient Liberties, read, 26 Mar. Committed, 29, Reported, and to fleep, and new Bil! prefented, 18 Apr. Read, 21. Bill to retain the King’s Subjeéts in their Obedience, read, 28 Apr. Vide Recufants. Subfidy, of Cloth, and other woollen Stuffs, Bill for confirming it, read, 2 June—Motion for a Subfidy, and Debate there. upon, 19 June. King’s Letter about it, 26. Motions and Speeches thereupon, egd. die. Speaker to give the King Thanks for his Letter at the End of the Seffion, eod. die. Mo- tion for an Anfwer to it, and Debate thereon, 28 June. Suits, frivolous. Vide Aétions. Swearing, and Blafphemy, Bill for Reformation thereof, read twice, and committed, 27 June. Reported, and to be ingroffed 3°. Paffed, 3 duly. d. INDEX @ the 3° & 4° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Sess. 2. A. 1605, & 1606. S4 BAOTH. Vide Sunday. Sacrament, Bill touching Perfons refufing to receive it, read, 4 Apr. Committed, 7. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 15. Pafled, and fent to the Lords, 17. Salifbury, Earl of, Bill from the Lords, for Affurance of Lands to him, 3 May. Read, eod. die. Committed, reported, and paffed, and fent to the Lords, 5. ; Salt-petre, Article of Grievance touching the Patent for it, 16 Apr. Counfel to be heard thereon, 16. 26. & go, Apr. Debate about it, 3 May. Sanétuary, Bill from the Lords, concerning it, 19 Mav. Read, eod. die. Committed, 20 May. Reported,22. To fleep, 23. —New Bill twice read, and committed, 22 May. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 23. . Sca-fifh. Vide Fifhing. Seminaries. Vide Jefuits and Recufants. Sermon, complained of. Vide Parker. Sewers, Bill for Explanation of a Statute concerning them, read, go Jan. Committed, 31. Reported, and to be ingrofied, 8 Feb. Paffed, 12 Mar. Sent to the Lords, 13. Shooting. Vide Guns. Simony, Bill for fupprefling it prefented, 1 Mar. Read, 22. Committed, 5 Apr. Reported, and re-committed, 9. Skinner, Sir Jobn, Bill for Affurance of certain of his Lands to Sir Wm. Smyth, and Sir M. Hicks, read, 13 Feb, Committed, 18. Reported, and to be ingrofled,1 Mar. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 6. Returned, with Amendments, 27. _Amend- ments agreed to,2 Apr. Bill fent back to the Lords, 5 May. Skinners, Bill from the Lords, for their Relief, 28 Apr. Read, 29. Committed, 2 May. Reported, with a Provifo, 8. Paffed, * *. Sent to the Lords,10 May. Skipwith, Sir Wiiliam, his Speech taxed by a Member, 14 Mar. Clears himfelf, 15. Smyth, Sir William. Vide fupra Skinner. Soap, black, Bill againft falfe making it, read, 17 Feb. Com- mitted, 5 Apr. Solicitors. Vide Attorneys. Spanifh Incorporation. Vide Merchants, and Trade. Spanifh Wars, Committee to confider of Means to prevent the Danger of Perfons ferving therein, 6 Feb. Speaker, Mr. delivers Meflages from the King, 29 Jan. 11 Feb. 8. 10. 18, & 19, Mar. & g Apr. To pretfent the Petitions to the King, touching Jefuits, and deprived Minitters, 13 May. Reports the King’s Anfwer, 16. Queftion about his Power to appoint a Sitting in the Afternoon, not to be put, 24. Spencer, Lord, Bill for Affurance of Leafes made by him, read, 6 Feb. Committed, 7. Reported, 24. Pafled, and fent to the Lords, 6 Mar. Spinflers,and Weavers, Bill touching them, read, 14 Feb. Com- mitted, 24. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 10 Mar. Re- jected, 31. Starch, blue, Counfel heard for Patentees, 28 Apr. Statutes, penal, Bill for better executing them, read, 5 Nov. Committed, 6.—Bill for: Execution of them, and Reftraint of Monopolies, read, 21 Jan. Committed, 22. Delivered back, the Committee not having met, and a new Day prayed, 25. Bill committed, 5 Apr. Reported, and to be ingrofled, * *, Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 17 Apr. Strangers. Vide Aliens. Siraw. Vide Hay. ; Subjeés, Bill for preferving them in their Obedience, read, 11 Mar. Vide Recufants. Subfidy, Motion for it, and Debate thereon, 10 Feb. Committee to draw a Bill for Two Subfidies, and Four Fifteens, eod. die. King’s Meffage of Thanks thereupon, 11 Feb. Debate touching an Addition propofed, 11 & 14 Mar. King’s Mef- ‘fage, relating thereto, 18. One Subfidy, and Two Fifieens, more, voted, eod.die. Other Meflages trom the King there- upon, 19 & 25 Mar. Debate, and Refolutions, touching the Times of Payment, 25. Bill prefented, 10 Apr. Read, 12. Committed, 16. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 18. Debate about the Third Reading of it, g May. Not to be fent to the Lords, till the Grievances ready, and prefented to the King, eod. die. Read Third time, and pafled, eod. die. Sent to the Lords, 15 May. Brought back, 27. Bill from the Lords, for the Subfidies of the Clergy, 8 May. Read, 15. ’ Sunday, Bill for better Obfervation thereof, read, 28 Jan. Com- mitted, 29. Reported, and re-committed, 13 Feb. Reported, and tobe ingrofled, 15. Pafled, 17. Bill for Refiraint of Arrefts on Sunday, reported, 24 Apr. Vide Arrefis. Supply. Vide Subfidy. Supremacy, Oath of. Vide Oath. Surrey Roads, Vou. I, Vide Nowfuch. First VoLtumMes. 4° & 5° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Sess. 3. A. 1606, & 1607. ACKVILLE, Richard, Efq; Bill from the Lords, to en- able him to furrender his Patent of Chief Butler of England, 26 Mar. Read, 27. Committed, 28. Reported, with Amend- ments, and paffed, and fent to the Lords, 31. Sailors. Vide Mariners. Salifbury, Earl of, Bill from the Lords, for affuring to him the Vicarage of Clefthunt, in Exchange for the Restory of Orfett granted a" — nae had London, 12 Dec. Read twice, and committed, eod. die. Reported, and paffed, 13 Dec. the Lords, 16. . 4 , — - —— Bill from the Lords, for Affurance of Lands to him, in Exchange for Theobalds, 28 May. Vide Theobalds. : Salt-petre men, Motion for a Bill to prevent their Abufes, and for Provifions of Salt-petre, 25 Nov. ° Saviour's, St. in Southwark, Bill to enlarge an A& for incorpo- rating the Churchwardens thereof, read, 21 Feb. Committed, 25. Counfel to be heard at the Bar, 25 Feb. & 3 Mar. Heard, 5 Mar. To be further heard at the Committee, eod. die. Bill reported, and to be ingrofled, 12 May. Paffed, 16. Scotland, King’s Meffage, touching a Report of undue Proceed- ings upon the Borders thereof, with Partiality to the Scots, and Sir Wm. Seaton heard thereupon, 19 May.—A Peper, touching the Method of proceeding in Scotland, in point of Teftimony upon Trials in criminal Caufes, read, 4 June. Bill from the Lords, to make the ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- r Difcharge of a Prifoner from the Tower, 28 Feb. His Letters for re- calling abfent Members, 3 Mar. Defires the Houfe to difpenfe with his Attendance, being ill, 16. 18. & 20, Mar. Mo- tion for chufing a Speaker pro tempore, in his Abfence, and Committee appointed to fearch Precedents for that Pur- pofe, 23. Speaker goes with the Houfe to Wefiminfier Abby, to hear a Sermon, 24 Mar. His Opinion, that upon 4 Report againft a Bill, the Counfel pro fhould be firft heard, over-ruled, 5 May. To give the King Satisfaction touch- ing feveral Members, taxed by him im his Speech, 6. Ex- cepted from being of a Committee of the whole Houfe, 7. Clears himfelf, about an Adjournment, 27. His Letter touch- ing Mr. Holdich, 9 i Sra Mr, Effex’s i 22 une. INDEX ‘io the June. Sent for to the King at Whitehall, about the Bill of Clothing, 4 July. Speech, Freedom of. Vide Houfe. State, fpiritual, Vide Supremacy. Steward, John, Efq; Bill from the Lords, to naturalize him, 2 June. Read Firft time, eod. die. Read Second and Third time, and paffed, 1 July. Sent to the Lords, 3. Supremacy, A& of, Bill to amend a Branch of it, read, 25 June. Committed, 26: Suffex, and Surrey, Roads. Vide Highways. 7° & 8° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Sess. 4. A. 1609, & 1610. ALTERS, and Brewers, Bill for confirming Lands to them, read, 19 Feb. Committed, 20. Counfel to be heard for Lord Arundell, 3 Mar. To beheard for the Bill, 15. Heard, 19. Bill re-committed, 26. Lord Arundell’s Counfel to be prefent, 16 Apr. ~ Bill reported, and to be ingroffed, 21. Paffed, 25. Sent to the Lords, 30. Saltonftall Decree, Lill read, and rejected, 16 May. Schonerus, Martinus, Bill to naturalize him, read, 26 Apr. Com- mitted, * *. Reported, 30 June. To be ingroffed, 2 July. Pafled, 10. Sent to the Lords, 17. Sea-coal, Report touching a pew Impofition thereon at Newcaftle, 28 Mar. Grant to be procured, eod. die. Further Report, 10 May. ‘To be prefented as a Grievance, 12. Sea-fand, Bill for improving Lands therewith, and increafe of Corn and Tillage in Devon, read, 20 Feb. Committed, 22. Counfel to be heard, 12 & 13 Mar. Bill reported, and to be ingrofled, 2 Apr. Counfel to be heard before Paflage, eod. die. Heard, 3 May. Bill paffed, 4. Sent to the Lords, 8. Serjeant, at Arms, Notice given of his Death, and another ap- pointed, 18 Mar.—Petition from Mr. Batteg, late Serjeant, read, and referred to Committee of Privileges, 28 Mar.—Al- lowance to the Serjeant, and Meflengers, for fummening, and travelling Charges, 14 May. Shipping, and Mariners, Bill relating thereto, read, 23 Feb. Cominitted, 28. Silk-dyers, Bill touching them, read, 27 Feb. Committed, 2 Mar. Reported, and to fleep, 3 May. New Bill prefented, eod. die. Read, 8. May. Committed, 21. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 25 June. Pafled, 14 July. Sent to the Lords, 17. Smyth, Melicent, his Bill read, 24 May. Committed, 18 June. Reported, and to be ingroiled, 10 July. Pafled, 14. Sent to the Lords, 17. Speaker fits in the Clerk’s Chair.at a Committee of the whole Houle, 23 Mar. To ftay impertinent Speeches, 2 May. Gives a cafting Vote, 14 July. Complains of being affronted by Sir Edw. Herbert, and Proceedings thereon, 18. Speech, Liberty of. Vide Impofitions. Spiller, Mr. Petition of Mr. Felton againft him, read, and referred to Committee of Grievances, and both to attend, 6 June. Report called for,9. Made, 12. Warden of the Fleet to at- tend, and Felton to have Liberty to go abroad with his Keeper, if not in Execution, eod. die. Further teport, 15 June. Matter to ceafe for a Time, eod. die. Revived, 6 July. ‘To ceale till the next Seffion, 10. Spinfters. Vide Clothing. Statutes, Motion for printing them, 5 July. Stone, Mr. Report touching his Commitlion for Purveyance of Wood and Coal, 24 Feb. Commiflion delivered in, 26. Stone to be fent for by the Serjeant, 28 Mar. Stranger comes into the Houte. Vide Craford. Subjfcription, Bill read, 12 Mar. Committed, 14. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 11 June. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, 20. Subfidy. Vide Supply.--Bill for one Subfidy, and one Fifteen, to be drawn, 11 July. Read, 13 & 14. Proceedings upon the Second Reading, 14. Bill committed, eod. die. Reported, and lo be ingrofled, cod. die. Pafled,16 July. Sent privately to the Speaker, 23. — Bill from the Lords, for the Subfidy of the Clergy, 20 July. Read, and palfed, eod. die. Suits againtt Magifirates. Vide Magiftrates. Supply, and Support, Conference defired by the Lords about it, and agreed to, 14 Feb. Time and Place for holding it, appointed, and Committee named to manage it, 15. Re- port, 17. Debate thereupon, 19. Committee of Griev- ances to treat of Supply and Retribution, eod. die. Report, 21 Feb. Conference defired with the Lords thereon, sind sighed to, eod. die. Motions, touching Grievances and Supply, refer- red to the faine Committee, 23 Feb. Matter of the Confe- rence propounded, and Reporters appointed, 24. Report, 27. Debate, and Refolution thereupon, 28. Form of a Meffage to the Lords, touching Supply and Support, eod. die. Debate touching the Meflage, and Committee appointed to pen it, 1 Mar, Reported, and fent to the Lords, eod. die. Vide Tenures. King’s Meflage about a Supply, to be communicated at a Con- ference, 11 June. Report, and Debate thereon, 13. Metlage First VoLuME from the King, to remove fome Jealoufies in the Houfe upon Occafion of a Lord’s Speech at the Conference, 14. Debate, and Meffage to the King thereupon, eod. die. Debate, and Re- folution for granting One Subtidy, and One Fifteen, 11 July. Sabidy touching the Times of Payment, eod. die. Vide ubfidy. Swearing, Bill to prevent it, read, g May. Committed, 30. Re- ported, and to be ingroffed, 5 June. Paffed, and {ent to the Lords, 20. 12° Jac. 1. Parl. 2. A. 1614. ACKVYLE College. Vide Dorfet. Salt-mar/hes, Bill, declaring the Law concerning them, read, 31 May.: Sandys, Sir William, Bill to enable him to fettle a Jointure, read, 24 May. ‘ Susann, Vide Brokers. —— Bill for Increafe, and better Employment, of them, read, 6 May. peor at Arms, fent with the Mace for Members, 16 May. Sefjions of tne Peace, Bill for fafe keeping of the Records thereof, read, 24 & 31 May. Sheriffs, not to be chofen Members, 9 Apr. — Bill of Grace, for Eafe in pafling the Accounts of She- riff’s, Efcheators, &c. prefented, and read, 18 Apr. Commit ted,6 May. Reported, and re-committed, and Counfel to be heard for Lord Chief Baron, 20. Silk, Bill againft deceitful dying of it, read,g May. Committed, 24. Silver. Vide Gold. Skinner, Dame Jane, Bill for her Relief, read, 25 May. Speaker, choten, 5 Apr. Confirmed, 7. 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Motion touching a Bill, preferred by one of the Burgeffes for Stockbridge againft the Sheriff of Southampton and the Two Members for that County, and Order thereupon, 31 May. Stalyan, Thomas, Bill to enable him to fell Lands, read, 18 Apr. Committed, 13 May. Stranger, coming into the Houfe, ordered into Cuftody, 14 May. Subfcription, Bill concerning it, read, 16 Apr. Sunday, Bill for better Obfervance thereof, prefented, 18 Apr. Read, 19. Committed, 7 May. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 13. Paffed, 21. Conference defired by the Lords thereupon, 31. Supply, Motion for it, and Debate thereon, 12 Apr. Committee to confider of a Meffage to the King relating thereto, and a Protefiation againft Undertakers, 13. Report, 2 May. De- _ bate, and Order thereon, eod. die. Further Debate touching a Supply, 5 May. Meffage from the King, threatening to dif- folve the Parliament, if the Supply were not forthwith treated of, 3 June. Debate thereon, and Committee to prepar€ an Autwer, eod. die. Sutton, Thomas, Efg; Vide Charter-hou/e. 18° & 19° Jac. I. Parl. 3. A. 1620, & 1621. S4 CKVYLE College, in Eaft Grinftead, Bill for eftablifhing it, read, 14 Feb. Committed, 4 May. Sir Edward, gives the Houfe Satisfaction touching an Exception made to his Speech, 6 Dec. Salifbury, Abraham, and Elizabeth, Bill from the Lords, to na- - turalize them, and others, 5 Mar. Read, 8. Committed, 23. Reported, * *. Pafled, 2 May. Salmon. Vide Lobfeers. Salt, Bill to reftrain Abufes in making it, read, 8 Mar. Salt-marfhes, Bill to declare the Law concerning them, prefent- ed, 27 Feb. Read, 28. Saljtonftall, Sir Peter, bis Grant of Recognizances in Courts of Record complained of, and to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, 21 Mar. His Patent upon the Re/pectuatur upon Sheriffs to be brought in, 22 Mar. & 14 May. Sandwich EleGion, Report, and Refolution concerning it, 22 Mar. — Sandys, ren 5 PLR NY ERAT eT ee Sera Ree oan a ei erica maaan hein ia iso Ci igen eal INDEX ¢o the First Vo.rtume. Sandys, Sir Edwin, Complains of his Speeches being mifcon- firued, 2 June. Cleared by the Houfe, eod. die. Motion about his Imprifonment, 20. 23. & 27, Nov. Debate, and Two Members fent to know of him, whether he was com- mitted for Parliamentary Bufinefs,1 Dec. Report called for, but deferred, 5. Paper about him to be burnt, 19. Sea-coals. Vide Coals, and Patents. Sea-marks, and Mariners, Bill to explain the A&t 8 Eliz. con- cerning them, read, 6 Feb. Commitied, 27. Reported, and rejected, 9 Mar.—New Bill read, 25 Apr. & 5 May. Debated, and committed, 7 May. Re-committed, 26. Vide Light- houfes. Serges, and Perpetuanoes, Bill for better making them, read, 17 Apr. Committed, 12 May. , a Serjeant, fent for Members to attend the Houfe,6 Feb. 22 Mar. 2 May; and 28 Nov. Allowed to ride before the Speaker, 8 Feb. Seffion, Debate whether it be determined by the pafling of the Subfidy Bill, and Precedents cited to the contrary, 7 Mar. Clause, for continuance of it, tendered, and committed with the Bill, eod. die-—Bill from the Lords, to continue the Seffion, notwithitanding the King’s giving the Royal Affent to fome Bills, 31 May. Seymour, Sir Francis, complains of being quettioned for fpeaking about the Patent for Alehoutes, 27 Feb. Defires to be cleared from the Charge of being the Inventor of the Matter againft Lord Treafurer, 11 May. Debate thereon, and cleared, eod. die. Sheep, Bill relating thereto, rejected, and torn, 17 Mar. Sheep-/kins, Bill touching them, read, 14 Mar. Sheperd, Mr. his Speech about the Bill concerning the Sabbath, cenfured, 15 Feb. Ordered to withdraw, eod. die. Called to the Bar, and expelled, 16 Feb. — Owen, Efq; Bill to enable him and John Smyth, Efy. to fell Lands, read, 27 Apr. Sheriffs, Bill for pafling their Accounts, read, 13 Mar. Com- mitted, and Clerks of the Exchequer to attend, 15. Shipwrights, their Patent complained of, 19 Mar. To be brought to the Committee of Grievances, 19 Mar. & 19 Apr. Order againft their exacting Money by virtue of it, till confidered, 20 Mar. Simony, Bill to prevent it in Eleétions in Colleges and Halls, read, 25 May. Smyth, John. Vide fupra Sheperd. John. Vide Hickes. Snayden, Bill read, 19 Mar. Spain, King of. Vide Palatinate. Speaker, chofen, 30 Jan. Confirmed, 3 Feb. Not to {peak with- out Leave, and to keep the Orders of the Houle, 5. To iffue Warrants for new Writs, upon Death, or double Returns, 6. Direés Counfel at the Bar, in what manner they are to pro- ceed, 9 Feb. & 16 Mar. Stops their Proceeding contrary to his Directions, 9 Feb. ‘To write Letters, in Cafes of Privilege, without moving the Houfe, 17. None but the Speaker to fpeak to Perfons brought into the Houfe, and to be refolved, before they are called in, what to fay, 3 Mar. His Behaviour taxed, 9g Mar. ‘To fend his Warrant to the Surveyor of the Works, for enlarging and making the Houfe more commo- dious, 26. To fend his Warrant to the Party, and a Letter to the Judges, to flay Proceedings in a Fine, 25 Apr. Motion for the Mace to be carried before him during a Recefs, and againft his practifing at the Bar, 1 June. To write Letters, in cafe of Breach of Privilege during an Adjournment, eod. die. Not to leave the Chair, or make any Motion, without Leave, 5, Dec. Speech, Freedom of. Vide Privileges. Spiller, Sir Henry, complains of being affronted at a Committee, and of divers Charges againft him, 12 Mar. Debate thereon, eod. die. Committee appuinted to examine a Charge againft him, 29 Nov. Staplers. Vide Merchants.—Bill for free Trade of the Staplers, read, 26 Apr. Committed, 7 May. Reported, and to be in- grofled, 28. Pafled,* *. Sent to the Lords, 28 Nov. — Statutes, Motion for repealing feveral, and Committee appointed to furvey them, 13 Feb. Bill for continuance and Repeal of divers, prefented, and read, 26 May. Committed, 29. Com- mittee to meet, 28 Nov. Stepney. 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Somervyle, Sir William, Bill for eftablifhing his Inheritance, read, 23 Apr. Committed, 26. Perfon, who ferved the Notice upon the Parties concerned, ordered to attend, 11 May. Ex- amined, 12. Committee to proceed, notwithftanding the Non-attendance of the Parties, eod. die. Southwark Election, Report, and Refolution, touching it, 2 Mar. Spain. Vide Trade, and Treaties. Speaker, chofen, 19 Feb. Confirmed, 21. To make out War- rants for new Writs, in Cafes of Death, or double Returns, 23. Signs an Order in’ the Chair, 9 Mar. ‘To write a like Letter to Lord Mountacue, as the laft Parliament, 13 Apr. ‘ Motion INDEX @o the First VoutumeE, Motion for his Warrant to bring Records from the Lords to a Committee, cod. die. To write a Letter to the Lord Keeper, for Stay of Proceedings in a Caufe, and a Command to the Party, to forbear, pending a Bill in the Houfe, 14 Apr. To write to the Lord Keeper, for a re-hearing of a Caute, cod. die. Stafford Election, Report touching it, 22 Mar, Voted a void Election, and a new Writ ordered, eod. die. Stanere, David, Bill to naturalize him, read, 1 Mar. Com- mitted, 24 Apr. Reported, and re-committed, 1 May. Re- ported, and to be ingroffed, eod. die. Pafled, 4 May. Staplers, Report touching the Patent and Proclamation concern- ing them, and Refolutions thereupon, 26 May. Committee to prepare a Petition of Grievance thereon, eod. die. Vide Trade. Statutes, penal. Vide Informations. — Committee to draw a Bill for Continuance and Repeal of Statutes, 2 Mar. Billread,6., Committed, 13. Order for the fitting of the Committee, 24 & 25. Bill reported, and to be contidered in a Committee of the whole Houfe, 1 Apr. Con- fidered, 5 & 21. Reported, and re-committed, 27. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 28. Pafled, 4 May. Sent from the Lords, with Amendments, 21. Amendments read, and committed to the whole Houfe, 22. Report, eod. die. Conference, defired with the Lords thereon, agreed to, and Managers appointed, cod. die. Held, and reported, eod. die. Meflage to the Lords thereon, eod. die. Amendments agreed to, 27 May. Steward, Lord High, fwears feveral Members, and makes a De- putation for {wearing the rett,12 Feb. Dies tuddenly, 16. Stewart, Sir Francis, Bill to naturalize him, and others, read, 22 & 24 Mar. Patfled, 19 May. , St. John, Sir William, Complaint of his Patent for Ginny and Binny, 19 Apr. Vide Trade. — Stockbridge EleGion, Report,and Refolution, concerning it,9 Apr. Stratford, John, Bill to eftablifh his Lands upon John Hopkins, read, 2 Apr. Committed, 3. Subjects. Vide Imprisonment. Subpena Office, Debate about it, and Patent for it to be brought in, 19 Apr, To be confidered, 21. Claufe touching it, tendered to the Bill of Monopolies, 22. Petition of the _ Clerks of the Chancery againft it, eod. die. Committee to take into Confideration the Increafe of Fees therein, eod. die. Re- port, 1 May. Subfidies, and Fifteens, Debate about the Number demanded by the King, and Committee of the whole Houfe to confider thereof, 1g Mar. A State of the Matters to be confidered, opened, 20. Refolution for granting Three Subfidies, and Three Fifteens, reported, and agreed to, eod.die. Committee to draw up an Ani{wer to the King, touching his Demand of Six Subfidies, and Twelve Fifteens, eod. die. 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Sent for, to be , carried up by the Speaker, for the Royal Affent, 11. Royal Affent given to it, eod. die. Bill from the Lords, for Confirmation of the Subfidies of the Clergy, read, and pafled, 11 July. Royal Affent, eod. die. Report touching the Accounts of the Treafurers and Council of War, relating to the Sublidies and Fifteens granted, 21 Jac. 6 July. To be confidered, and Council of War and Treafurers to attend, eod. die. letolutions touching the Pay- ment of Money out of the Subfidies, for Services mentioned in the A&, and difburfed by the Country, eod. die. Account of the Subfidies and Fifteens to be prepared, and Parties to at- tend, eod. die. Committee of the whole Houle to take it, 1 Aug. Committee appointed to fet down the Money difburfed by the Country, 10. Sunday, Bill for punifhing Abufes committed thereon, read, 21 June. Committed, 22. Reported, and to be ingroffed, * *, Pafled, * *. Supply, Motion for it referred to a Committee of the whole Houfe, 22June. Vide Subfidies—King’s Demand of a further Sup- ply to be confidered, 4 Aug. Debate thereon, 5 & 6. To be confidered in a Committee of the whole Houle, 6. Motion relating thereto, 8. King’s Meflage, concerning it, to be communicated to both Houfes at a Conference, eod. die. Re- port, 9 Aug. Motion for a Supply, and Committee of the whule Houle to confider of it, eod. die. Meflage from the King about it, 10 Aug, Debate thereon, and Committee to contider of an Anfwer thereto, eod. die. . 1° § 2° Car. I. Parl. 2., 4. 1625, & 1626. S4CRAMENT, To be received by the Houfe, 9 Feb. Salley Pirates. Vide Captives, and Grievances. Salmon, Bill for Prefervation and Increale thereof, read, 14 Feb. Committed, 27. Reported, and re-committed, 27 Mar. Salt, Bill for increafe of the Manufacture thereof, read, and re- jected, 7 Mar.—Patent to Mr. More, and others, for making of Salt, to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, eod. die. Report touching it, 28 Mar. Putent condemned, 5 May. To be annihilated, and a Ditclaimer to be entered thereupon in the King’s Bench. 25. Savyle, Sir John, Copy of a Letter, pretended to be written by him, concerning the Privileges of the Houfe, produced, and read, 22 May. Witneffes to be examined thereon, eod. die. To give Satisfaction, in his Place, to Two Members, for words ufed in his Speech, eod. die. Petition from one Med- calf, defiring to be examined, read, and Order thereupon, 24 a Witneffes examined, 8 June. To be further examined, 12. Scroop, Lord, Petition concerning him, to be prefented to the King, 11 Mar. Sea-couls, Bill to prevent the Abufe of falfe Meafures therein, read, 16 Feb. Committed, 20. Reported, and to be in- grofied, 9 May. Report touching the Office for Survey of Sea-coals, and King to be petitioned thereon, 24 May. Parties to attend the —— of Grievances, and Patent to be brought in, eod. le. Seamen. Vide Mariners. Serjeant at Arms, fent for a Member petitioned againft, 25 Mar. Sent with the Mace to fetch Members from the Painted Chamber Door, 10 May. Serjeant-majors, and Mutter-mafters, Bill for reforming their bufes, read, 16 Mar. Committed, 28. Sew/ter, Giles, and Samuel, Bill to make void a Conveyance gotten from them, read, 20 Feb. Committed, 13 Mar. Pes 7 of Mr. Sewfter, read, 29 Apr. Additional Committees, eod. die. Sharpey, Sir Robert, Bill to punith him, for reviving the Duty on Newcaftle Cuals, read, 27 Mar. Committed, 1 June. : Sheriffs, Deputy, and Bailiffs, Bill to reform their Abufes, and to limit their Fees on Outlawries, prefented,11 Feb. Read, 13. Committed, 1 Mar. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 10. Bill for paffing Accounts of Sheriffs, and Colletors of Subfidies, read, 10 Mar. Committed, 14.—Bill for Eafe of Sheriffs, read, 21 Mar.—Bill for pafling the Accounts of She- riffs, and Bailiffs of Liberties, read, 2 May. Shipping, i ;- i ' ; a Bec e. a IN DEX ¢o the First Votume. Shipping, and Navigation, Bill for Maintenance and Increafe thereof, and for Liberty of Fifhing, in Newfoundland, read, 14 Feb. Committed, 28. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 4 Mar. Paffed, 7. Committee appointed to confider of feveral Matters re- lating to my and Mariners, 22 Mar. & 15 Apr. Simony. Vide Benefices. Skipwith, Mr. his Bill read, * *. Committed, 6 Mar. Slingiby, Sir William, Petition againft him, about a Jefuit brought before him, 25 Mar. Gives Satisfaction therein, eod. die. Snell, Sir Charles, Bill to enable him to fettle a Jointure, read, 27 Mar. Committed, 8 May. Soldiers, Bill to prevent Abufes in prefling them, read, 20 Mar. Committed, 9 Mies, Sotherne, Thomas, Bill to naturalize him, read, 13 Mar. Com- mitted, 27. Additional Committees, 28. 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Sawyer, Sir Edmund, charged with being the Projector of Two new Books of Rates, 17 May. To attend the Committee thereon, and. bring in thofe Books, eod. die. To give an Ac- count, why he went out of Town without Leave, 19 May. King’s Meffage concerning him, 21 June. , Report —s! his tampering with a Witnefs, fent for to the Committee, eod. die. Heard thereto, eod. die. Committed to the Tower, and expelled, and declared unworthy to ferve as a Member, eod. die. Schoolmafters, popith, Mefiage to the Archbifhop of Canterbury, to know what was done concerning them, upon the King’s Re- ference, 28 Apr. : Vou. I. Sea-coals, Privy Seal for an Impofition of 2s. per Chaldron ~~ and of 5s. upon all exported, to be brought in, 7 & 17 May. Seas, Complaint about the not guarding of them, 7 May. To be confidered in a Committee of the whole Houfe, 7 & 8. Re- port concerning it, 4 June. Article relating thereto to be in- ferted in the Remonftrance, 11. Vide Shipping. Seldon, Mr. Vide Suffolk. Serjeant at Arms, Motion for his taking Bail of Perfons fent for in his Cuftody, difagreed to, 22 Mar. Sent for Members to attend a Grand Committee, 1 May. His Petition about Fees, read, and referred to a Committee, 20 & 23 June. ep Samuel, Bill to fell Lands, read, 8 May. Committed, 16. Ship-money, Petition of divers Citizens of London againft it, re- ferred to Committee of Grievances, 27 Mar. Shipping, and Navigation, Bill for Maintenance thereof, and In- creafle of Fifhing in Newfoundland, read, 24 Mar. Committed, 17 Apr. Reported, and re-committed, and Counfel to be heard for Lord Baltimore, 23. Paffed, 16 May. Petition from the Trinity-houfe, concerning the Decay of Shipping, referred+to Committee for Trade, 23 Apr. Report, 25. Select Committee appointed to confider thereof, and of the Decay of Timber for building Ships, eod. die. Further Report from Committee of Trade, relating to the Decay of Shippin and Mariners, 4 June. Article, relating thereto, to be inferted in the Remonftrance to the king, 11. Certificate of Ships loft, to be delivered in, eod. die. Committee appointed to receive it, 13 June. Brought in, 14.. Read, and recommitted, 16 Reported, and to be ingroffed, eod. die. To be annexed to the Remonftrance, eod. die. Refolution touching the Al- lowance of Rates for Shipping, and Committee to draw a Pe- tition thereon, 24 June. Petition read, and to be ingrofled, 25. Skynner, Mr. complained of for arrefting Sir Edw. Denny’s Ser- vant, 22 May. Examined, touching difrefpectful Words ufed againft Sir Edward, and Committee to examine the Matter, 26. Report, 30. Soldiers, Complaint of Violences committed by divers billeted in Surrey, 26 Mar. Committee appointed to examine it, 28. Vide Moulden. To confider of-all other Complaints touching the billeting of Soldiers, 3 Apr. Vide Lieutenants. Complaint of the Infolencies of Soldiers at Weymouth, 7 Apr. Com- mittee of the whole Houfe to confider of the Abufes in the billeting of Soldiers, eod. die. Further Powers, and [nftructions to the Committee, 7 & 8 Apr. Petition concerning this Matter, to be ingroffed, 9. To be prefented to the King, and Com- mittee to draw Heads for an Introduction, 10. King moved for Accefs, 11. Accefs granted, eod. die. Committee to draw a Bill, concerning prefling of Sol- diers, 3 Apr. Sparke, Michael his ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- lage to the Lords, de- firing Juftice thereon, 14 Apr. Their Anfwer reported, eod. die. Committee appointed to examine this Matter, eod. die. Charge againft the Earl avowed, 15 Apr. Report, and Refo- lutions thereupon, 17. Charge tranfmitted to the Lords, eod. die. Summer Iflands, Petition of the Planters, complaining of an Im- pofition, referred to a Committee, 4 June. Report, 16. Com- mittee to draw a Petition to the King thereon, eod. die. To be ingroffed, 19. To be prefented, 20. King’s Anfwer reported, 24. Sunday, Bill to reform Abufes committed thereon, read, 31 Mar. Committed, 1 Apr. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 9. Paffed, 9 May. Sent from the Lords, with Amendments, 22. Amend- ments agreed to, 23. Supply, Debate of it referred to a Committee of the whole Houfe, 22 Mar. Order miftaken, and difcharged, 24. King’s Mef- fage, relating to the Supply, 25. ‘To be confidered by the Committee for the Liberty of the Subjeét, eod. die. Debated, 2 Apr. Another Meffage to haften the Refolution for a Supply, and Committee to prepare an Anfwer thereto, 12. Heads reported, and agreed to, eod. die. Introduction thereto read, and affented to, 14. Motion about the Supply, 16. Retolution for granting Five Subfidies, reported, and agreed to, 8 May. Vide Subfidy. Sutton’s Hofpital. Vide Charter-houfe. 4° Car. I. Parl. 3. Sef: A. 1628. AVYLE, Lord, Petition againft him referred to a Com- mittee, 16 Feb. ; Searle, Samuel, Bill to reverfe a Decree, Xc. againft him, read, 5 Feb. Ships, going to Spain. Vide Corn. Speaker, to iffue Warrants for new Writs, upon Deaths, without Motion, 20 Jan. To go firft out of the Houfe at the Rifing, eod. die. To come by Eight o’Clock every Morning, 28 Jan. To write Letters to the Univerfities for Copies of Recanta- tions, Cenfures, and Submiflions, made for Popery, or Armini- anifm, 10 Feb. ri. Stationers, theix Petition againft the Patent for printing on one Side, referred to Committee of Grievances, 12 Feb. Steward, Dr. his Petition read, 9 Feb. Strange, Lady, Bill from the Lords, tu naturalize her, 31 Jan. Read twice, 3 Feb. Paffed, 4. Subjeéts. Vide Petition of Right, and Rolles. Swiemer Iflands, Bill to confirm Letters Patents for planting them, read, 5 Feb. Committed, 10. Sutton, Sir Thomas, Bil! for better performing his Will, read, 22 Jan. Committed, 20 Feb. Petition of Sir Fra. Popham and his Wife, relating thereto, read, eod. die. Symonds, = Tae Po Petition and read, referred to Mr. Rolles’ Committee, 21 Feb. 1° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sef. I. A. 1547. ANNES, and Bark, Bill read, 19 Dec. Tenures in Capite, Bill from the Lords, relating to them, read,6& 13 Dec. Paffed, 14. Tin, unwrought, Bill for carrying it out of the Realm, read, 15 & 24 Nov. Tinners, in Devon, Bill for them, read, 21 Nov.& 13 Dec. Paff- ed, 19 Dec. Tonnage, snd Poundage, Bill read, 17 & 18 Nov. Pafled, 19 Provifo from the Lords, for the Steel-yard, read twice, 20 Dec. Paffed, 23. Treafons, and Felonies, Bill from the Lords, for repealing divers Statutes concerning them, read, 21 Nov.—New Bill read, 30 Nov. & 6 Dec. Paffed, 12 Dec.—New Bill from the Lords, read, 21 Dec. Paffed, 23. Tythes, Bill touching Non-payment thereof in exempt Places, read, 22 Nov. 2° & 3° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Seff: 2. A. 1548. 74 NNERS. Vide Curriers, and Leather. Taverns. Vide Alehoufes. Tenants. Vide Attornments. Tin. Vide Pewterers. Trials, in criminal Caufes, Bill relating thereto, read, 5 Dec. Tythes, Bill from the Lords, for Payment thereof, read, 18 Feb. Committed 22, Read, Third time, 27. Paffed, 5 Mar. 3° & 4° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sef. 3. A. 1549. Tit BURY Ferry, Bill for repairing, it, read, 14 Nov. Tin, Bill for making it perfect, read, 1g Nov. Committed, 25.—Bill for Conveyance of it, wrought, out of the Realm, read, 23 Nov. Trees, Bill for Increafe thereof, read, 5 & 6 Nov. 5° & 6° Edw. VI. Parl. 1. Sef. 4. 4.1551 & 1552. AVERNS. Vide Victualling-houfes. Tillage, Bill from the Lords, for Increafe thereof, 2 Apr. Read, 4&6. Paffed, 7. Vide Pajture, and Sheep. Timber ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_001.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- fioners, to draw a Bill againft the next Seflion, eod. die. Bill for Enlargement of Trade, read, 19 Apr. Com- mitted, 24. Reported, 21 May. Treafon, Motion touching a Declaration of all Kinds thereof, 26 Mar. Committee appointed to confider of it, eod. die. Treafurers, and Deputy Lieutenants, Bill to compel them to ac- count, read, 21 Apr. & 1 May. Trelawny, Sir Jonathan, Houfe to attend his Funeral, 22 June. Trinity College, Cambridge, Bill from the Lords, for Exchange of Lands between them and Sir Tho. Mounfon, 15 May. Read, * *. Committed, 26 May. Reported, with Amend- ments, 6 June. Rejected, 7. Typper, Mr. charged with taking 100/. for furthering the Paflage of a Bill, and to be fent for by the Serjeant, 5 May. The Sol- licitor of the Bill to attend, eod. die. Examined, 7 May. Com- mittee appointed to examine Mr. Typper, 11. Report, 15. His Two Letters Read, 16. Tythes, Bill for explaining a Decree 37 H. VIII. for Payment of them in London, read, 19 Apr. Committed, 10 May. Re- ported, and new Bill prefented, and read, 14 June. Rejected, 23. Bill for Payment of Tythes in Kind, read, 20 June. Bill for Payment of Perfonal Tythes, read, 22 June. 3° & 4° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Seff 2. A. 1605 & 1606. 74 LWORTH Road. Vide Nonfuch. Taxes, and Impofitions, Bill concerning them, read, 25 Feb. Committed, 19 Mar. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 10 May. Paffed, 24. Thames, Bill from the Lords, for making it navigable to Oxford, 10 Apr. Read, 16. Committed,17. Reported, with Amend- ments, 13 May. Paffed,* *. Sent to the Lords, 19 May. Thankfgiving, annual. Vide Plot. Thetford, Bull for eftablifhing an Alms-houfe there, read, 22 Jan. Committed, 23. Reported, and to fleep, 6 Mar. Throckmorton, William, Efq: Bill for fettling the Manor of Rye upon him and his Heirs, read twice, and committed, 8 May. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 10. Paffed, 12. Sent to the Lords, 13. Tillage. Vide Hereford. Tin, Article of Grievance touching Pre-emption of it, debated, and agreed to, 9 Apr. Tippling-houfes, Bill to fupprefs them, and reftrain Brewers from uttering Beer and Ale to Alehoufe-keepers not licenfed, read, 21 Feb. Committed, 3 Apr. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 28. Read the Third time, and rejected, 5 May. Tonnage, and Poundage, Bill for repealing Part of a Statute con- cerning it, read, 24 Jan. Committed, 28. Towns, decayed, Bill foy Maintenance of them, read, and reje&ted, 2 Apr. pont Bill for free Liberty thereof into Spain, Portugal, and France, read, 7 and 10 Feb. Committed, * *. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 27 Feb. Paffed, 12 Mar. Sent to the Lords, 13. Conference defired by the Lords thereon, and agreed to, 10 Apr. Report, 12. Another Conference to be held thereupon, 28. Report touching the Objections of the Spanifh Company thereto, 2 May. Bill fent from the Lords, with Amendments, 3. Amendments agreed to, 5. Bill for Free Liberty of Trade into all Countries, read, **, Committed, 3 Apr. Additional Committees, 10. Re- ported, and to be ingrofled, * *. Paffed, * *. Sent from the Lords, with Amendments, 3 May. Treafon. Vide Attainder, and Plot. Treafury, Clerkthip of. Vide —, Trelawny, Sir Jonathan, Bill for Sale of his Lands, read, 21 Jan. ~ ¢ oeeeiee 23. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 4-Feb. Paff- ed, 8. Ti upper, Mr. Article of Grievance touching him, read, 16 Apr. -To be heard by Counfel, 16. 28 & 30. Article to be drawn into Form, 28. Mr. Typper heard, and Caufe referred to the Committee for Grievances, 3 May. Select Committee to examine it, 10. 4° & 5° Jac. I. Parl. 1. Sef: 3. A. 1606 &§ 1607. ANNERS. Vide Leather. Tenements. Wide Inmates. Theobald’s Houfe, Bill from the Lords, for fettling it on the Queen, and affuring other Lands to the Earl of Salifbury in Exchange, 28 May. Read, 29. Committed, 30. Reported, with Amendments, 6 June. Paffed, and fent to the Lords, eod. die. Throckmorton, Edward, complained of for ferving a Subpena on a QO. Cromwell, 7 May. Ordered into Cuftody for a ay, 8. Tillage. Vide Herefordfhire. Timber, Bill for marking and affifing thereof, read, 10 Mar. Re- jected, 13 May. Bill from the Lords, for Prefervation and Increafe of Timber, 2 July. Read, and debated, eod. die. Tompfon, Robert, Efq; Bill to enable his Committees to fettlea Jointure upon his Son’s Wife, read, 21 Feb. Committed, 24. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 12 Mar. Paffed, 14. Sent to the Lords, 31. Tonnage, and Poundage, Bill to explain the Act for it, read, 11 Dec. Trade, Bill to explain the Act for free Liberty thereof into Spain, Portugal, and France, read, 25 Nov. Committed, 26. Re- ported, and to be ingroffed, 29. Pafled,2 Dec. Sent to the Lords, 10. Trelawney, Sir Jonathan, Bill for Affurance of his Lands to the Purchaters, read, 20 Feb. Committed, 21. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 25. Paffed, 28. Tythes, Bill againtt fuing for them in ecclefiaftical Courts, read, 18 May. 7° & 8° Jac. 1. Parl. 1. Sef: 4. A. 1609 & 1610. TE NURES, and Worle Report from the Committee of Grievances, touching a Propofition to be made to the Lords, for taking them away, 21 Feb. Conference defired with the Lords thereon, and agreed to, eod.die. Directions touching the Manner of proceeding therein, and Reporters appointed, 24 Feb. Report, 27. Debate, and Meflage to the Lords there- on, 28. Meflage altered, and fent to the Lords, 1 Mar. Com- mittees of both Houfes to meet, eod. die. King’s Anfwer to the Petition, touching Tenures and Wardfhip, to be imparted by the Lords at a Conference, 2 Mar. Report, and Debate there- on, 5- Further Conference defired with the Lo: ds thereupon, and agreed to, 6. Report, 10. Committee for ‘ onference to meet the Lords, to receive the King’s Anfwer, 12. His An- fwer, giving the Houfe Leave to treat, reported, 14. Meflage to be fent to the Lords, fignifying the Intention of the Houfe to give the King Thanks by the Speaker, and Committee to draw it, eod. die. Form of it, 15 Mar. King to be moved for Ac- cefs, and Committee to confider of a Meffage of Thanks, 17. Houfe to attend the King therewith,19 & 20. His Anfwer reported, 26. Committee of the whole Houfe to confider of Tenures and Wardfhips, 15 Mar. The Clerk to fay Prayers thereat, and the Lawyers to attend,17. Committee fits, 23. Report of their Proceedings, 26. Conference, defired with the Lords thereon, agreed to, and Committee to confider of the Manner of proceeding therein, eod. die. Further Confideration of the Bufinefs adjourned, 30 Mar. Meflage from the Lords, about deferring it, 2 Apr. Another Meflage, appointing a Con- ference about it, 19. Report, 21. Committee to fit, eod. die. Report, 23 Apr. Another Conference defired with the Lords, and agreed to, 26. Committee to confider of the Report, and affign a Reporter, 27. Conference reported, 28. Debate about an anfwer to be fent to the Lords, 1 May. Form of it brought in, debated, and Committee to review it, 2 May. Report, and Proceedings thereon, eod. die. 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Tewkfbury, a new Borough, Warrant for a Writ ordered, 28 Mar. Burgeffes fworn, 16 Apr. Teye, Mr. Burgefs for Arundell, Motion touching his Wages, 11 May. Thetford Sehecd, Bill from the Lords, touching it, 1 June. Read, and Counfel to be heard, 6. Read Second time, 14. Counfel heard, and Bill committed, 15. Reported 23 June. Pafled, 26. Sent to the Lords, 2 July. Tillage. Vide Sea-fand. Timber, and Underwoods, Bill for breeding and increafing there- of, prefented, 16 Feb. Vide Woods. Bill for Supply of Timber in Devon, for Shipping, read, * *, Committed, 25 June. Titles. Vide Leafes. 12° Jac. I. Parl. 2. A. 1614. T4 X E'S, and Impofitions, Bill concerning them, read, 14 Apr. Debated, and committed, 18. Taylors, Bill for Reformation of them, read, 17 May. Tenants in Tail, Bill to enable them to fell Lands, notwithftand- ing the Reverfion be in the Crown, read, 14 Apr. Thetcher, William, his Bill read, 25 May. Timber, Bill for Increafe thereof, read, and rejected, 14 May. Trade, Complaint of a Patent for Reftraint thereof, 12 Apr. Vide Patent. 18° & 19° Jac. 1. Parl. 3. d. 1620 & 1621. EWKS BURY Bridge, Bill relating thereto, read, * *- Committed, 5 May. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 29. Thames, Bill from the Lords, for making it navigable from Bercott to Oxford, 7 Dec. Thornbury and Oldbury Manors, Bill to reftore the Tenants there- of to their ancient Privileges, read, 15 Mar. Committed, 20 Apr. Thread, and Lace, gold and filver, Complaint of the Patents for making them, to be confidered by the Committee of Griev- ances, 6 Feb. Report touching them, 5 Mar. Debate, and Refolution, about queftioning the Referrees, eod. die. Further Report, 6 Mar. Patentees to be heard by Counfel, eod. die. Heard, eod. die. Witneffes examined, and Patents condemned, 7 Mar. Vide Michell and Monperfon. Tichborne, Sir Walter, his Patent for mortgaged Lands to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, 21 Mar. Time for his bringing it in enlarged, eod. die. Tiffin, Thomas, and Juhn, Bill to confirm an Agreement be- tween them and the Creditors of their Father, read, 27 Apr. Tiles, Bill for Reformation of Abufes therein, read, and rejected, 17 Feb. Tillage. Vide Warrens. Tobacco, foreign, Refolution concerning the Importation of it, 13 Mar. Report from Committee for free Trade concerning it, and Debate thereon, 17 Apr. Further Debate, and Refo- lution againit it, 18.—Bill to reftrain the inordinate Ufe of it, read, 23 Apr. Committed, 3 May. Reported, and to be in- grofled, 16. Paffed, 25. Petition of Virginia Planters, complaining of a Patent for Tobacco, read, and referred to a pom, ang 23 Apr. Patent to be broughtin, 25. Tolls, concealed, Report touching the Patent for them, 26 Mar. Patent condemned, eod. die. : Trade, Motions about the Decay of it, and the Scarcity of Mo- ney, 26 Feb. To be confidered in a Committee of the whole Houfe, eod. die. Report, and Refolution touching foreign To- bacco, 13 Mar. Vide Tobacco. Further Report, 17 Apr. Sub- committee appointed to brief the Matters delivered in, 19. Further Motion about the Decay of Trade, 5 Dec. Bill for free Trade into all Countries, read, 2 Mar. Com- mitted, 28 Apr. Bill for free Trade into France, read, 3 May. Trials. Vide Battle. Trinity-houfe. Vide Light-houfes. Twyford, and Marwel!, Manors, Bill to make voida Decree againft the cuftomary Tenants thereof, read, 16 May. Typper, Mr. Complaint of his Patent of Concealments, 28 Feb. ‘To attend the Committee of Grievances, 21 Mar. Vide Con- cealments. Tythes, Bill to prevent the taking of them for Fifhing Voyages, read, 13 Feb. Vide Fi/hing. Report touching the Patent for concealed Tythes, and Patent condemned, 19 Mar. read, 19 Apr. Vor I. — Bill for Payment of Cofts upon Prohibitions for Tythes, - 21° & 22° Jac. I. Parl. 4. A. 1623 & 1624. FE: HAM ES, Bill from the Lords, to make it navigable from Bercot to Oxford, 18 Mar. Read, 19. Committed, 20. Reported, and re-committed, and Counfel to be heard upon a Petition againft it, 22 Apr. Reported, with Amendments, and Paffed, 26. Theluall, Sir Eubele, Report from Committee for Religion, touch- ing a Complaint againft him, 20 May. Cleared, eod. die. Thomas, Mrs. Report touching her Complaint againft the Lord Keeper, 19 May. Further Report, and Refolutions and Pro- ceedings thereon, 27. Tobacco, Bill relating thereto, to be looked out, 5 Apr. Read, 15. Vide Trade. Trade, Grand Committee appointed to confider of it, 24 Feb. Report touching the feveral Matters propoted to be handled by them, and feveral Motions made by their Direction, 4 Mar. Proceedings of the Commiflioners for Trade, to be brought to the Committee, and Lord Treafurer, to be requeft- ed to fend to them the Labours of the laft Parliament, eod. die. Patents and Orders of the Merchant-adventurers, and the Eaft-land Company, to be brought to the Committee, to Mar. Merchant-adventurers to bring in their Account and Court Books, 13. Mr. Nicholfon’s Patent of the pretermitted Cuftoms to be brought in eod. die. Vide Nicholfon. Mer- chants to fend Four of each Company to the Committee, and to fet down the State of Trade in each Company, 19 Mar. Account of Exportation and Importation, for Four Years, or- dered, eod. die—of Money coined fince the laft Parliament, ordered, eod. die. Merchant-adventurers to bring in their Pa- tent 28 Eliz. and their great Court Books, eod. die. Motions, touching Burthens on Trade, to be confidered by. the Com- mittee, 1 Apr. Report touching the bad State of Trade, and the Occaiions thereof, 2. Complaint againft the Mer- chant-adventurers to be confidered in a Committee of the whole Houfe, and they to attend, and bring in their Book of Accounts, and fttanding Court Books, eod. die. Comunittee fits, 3 Apr. Form of the Order to the Merchant-adventurers, for bringing in their Court Book, and other Books of Accounts, eod.die. Several Writings, concerning the pretermitied Cuf- toms, delivered in, and referred to a Sub-committee, eod. die. State of the Trade with Spain to be prefented to the Com- mittee, 6 Apr. Meffage from the King, touching the Mer- chant-adventurers Books, and Committee appointed to infpect them, 8. Report from Committee for Trade, touching the pre- termitted Cutioms, and the new Impofitions upon Wines, Su- gars, and Grocery, 9 Apr. Debate and Refolution thereon, eod. die. Committee appointed to examine, whoadviled thote Impo- fitions, eod. die. Matter of the pretermitted Cuftoms to be de- bated in the Houfe, eod. die. Report touching the Lmpofitions on Wines and Sugars,12 Apr. Referred to the Committee of Grievances, eod. die. Report relating thereto, eod. die. Fur- ther Report from Committee for Trade, touching the preter- mitted Cuftoms, and Debate thereon, 13 Apr. The laft Patent to be brought in, eod. die. Report from the Committee, ap- ointed to fearch the Merchant-adveuturers Books, 14 Apr. To be confidered by the Committee for Trade, eod. die. De- bate touching the pretermitted Cuftoms, 16 Apr. Further De- bate adjourned, 16 & 17. Report touching a Complaint of the Cloth-workers againft the Merchant-adventurers, about the drefling of Cloths exported, 19.—touching a Petition of the Dyers againft the Patent for Ginny and Binny, eod. die. Refolutions and Order thereupon, eod. die. Merchant-adven- turers to be heard at the Committee for Trade by their Coun- fel, 20 Apr. Report touching their Patent and Propofitions, 23.—touching their Complaint of an Impofition upon Cloth by the Arch-duchefs and the States, and of divers other Griev- ances, eod. die. Their Patent to be brought to the Committee of Grievances, eod. die. Committee appointed to accommo- date the Difference between them and other Merchants, eod. die. Report touching a Complaint againft the Alnager’s Of- fice, and Parties to attend, eod. die. Committee for Trade empowered to fend for any Witnefles, eod. die. Further De- bate touching the pretermitted Cuftoms, 28 Apr. Report from the Committee, appointed to treat with the Merchant-adven- turers and Refolutions thereupon, 30. Report from Com- mittee for Trade, touching an [mpofition upon Hops, 1 May. Vide Treafurer.--Pretermitted Cuftoms voted a Grievance, and to be prefented to the King, 3 May. Reafons for the Opinion of the Houfe in relation thereto, to be reduced into Writing, 5. Petition of the Merchant-adventurers read, eod. die. Debate touching the Reftraint of Tranfportation of dyed and dreffed Cloths by any but the Merchant-adventurers, eod. die. Petition of the Merchants of the Staple, and Kentifh Clothiers, in re- lation thereto, read, eod. die. To be further confidered in a Committee of the whole Houfe, 5 & 8 May. Report, and Re- folution thereon, 10. Houfe goes again into a Committee up- on Trade, 15. Further Refolutions touching Tranfportation ofCloth, 19. Patent of the Merchant-adventurers to be pre- Aa fented —_ INDEX (@o the fented as a Grievance, eod. die. Petition to be prefented to the King, touching foreign Impofitions upon Cloth, eod. die. Re- ort touching the Abufes of the Alnager’s Office, 22 May. o be prefented as a Grievance, eod. die. Report touching the Eaft-land Company’s Patent and Proclamation, and Petition to be drawn for them, 24 May.—touching the Patent for Ginny and Binny, and Patent voted a Grievance, eod. die.— touching the Turky Company’s Complaint of an additional Duty upon Currants, and an Increafe of Subfidy upon raw Silk, eod. die. King to be petitioned to take off the firft, and the other to reft, eod. die. Report touching the Importation of Spanifh Tobacco, and King to be petitioned to banith it, eod. die.—touching the Cloth-workers Comainiin againft the Mer- chant-adventurers, and King to be petitioned therein, 25 May. —touching a Complaint of the Weftern Merchants againft the Farmers of the Cuftoms, for Extortion, eod.die. To be pre- fented asa Grievance, eod. die. Report touching Prifage of Wines, taken in the Weft Country, eod. die. To be prefented as a Grievance, eod. die. Nine Grievances, concerning Trade, tendered, and Proceedings thereon, 26 May. To be prefented to the King with the other Grievances, and Committee to exa- mine them, 28. King’s Anfwer reported, 29. ——— Bill, reftoring the free Trade of the Merchants of the Staple, read, 4 Mar. Committed, 24. — Bill for free Trade into all Countries, read, 25 Mar. Treafurer, Lord, a Charge againft him delivered in, and read, § Apr. To beconfidered by the Committee of Grievances, and Speaker to fend his Warrant for Witnefles, eod. die. Order about the fitting of the Committee, 6 Apr. Proceedings of the Committee reported, 7. Order for Attendance of Mr. Jacob, and other Witneffes, eod. die. Report touching Two Articles of the Charge againft him, 9 Apr. To have a Copy of them, and to anfwer, eod. die. His Requeft for further Time to give in his Anfwer, not affented to,10 Apr. Further Time sem him, eod. die. Further Report concerning him, 12 Apr. ebate, and Refolution for tranfmitting the Charge againft him to the Lords, eod. die. Committee appointed to draw it up, eod. die. Report,15 Apr. Purport of the King’s Letter con- cerning him, 16. Petition a ainkt him, touching an [mpofition upon Hops, referred to the Comutitins for Trade, 23. Report, and Complaint to be tranfmitted to the Lords, 1 May. Heads .of the Charge againft him to be reduced into Writing, and re- corded, 11. Refolution touching the Manner of the Speaker’s demanding Judgment againft him, 13. Meflage from the Lords, delving the Houfe to come and demand Judgment, eod. die. Houfe goes with the Speaker accordingly, eod. die. Com- mittee appointed to fearch Precedents of tormer Judgments upon Complaints of the Commons, 14 May. Charge againft the Lord Treafurer delivered in, and read, 28. Treaties with Spain, about the Prince’s Marriage, and the Palati- nate, Duke of Buckingham’s Narrative relating thereto, deli- vered at a Conference between both Houfes, reported, 27 Feb. Debate thereon, 1 Mar. Another Conference defired by the Lords, and Anfwer thereto, eod. die. Matter to be confidered in a Committee of the whole Houfe, eod. die. Refolution to advife the King to break off both Treaties, reported, and agreed to, eod. die. Committee appointed to collect the Reafons of this Advice, eod. die. Report, and Debate thereon, 2 Mar. Conference, defired by the Lords, accepted, eod. die. 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Debate about it, eod. die. Note of the Proceeding delivered in, and entered, 10 Apr. Conference defired by the Lords, touching the Diffolution of the Treaties, agreed to, and held, 17. King’s Meflage, and Declaration, re- lating thereto, reported, eod. die. Trinity College. Vide Richardfon. Trouts. Vide Salmon. Turky Company. Vide Trade. I° Car. 1. Parl. 1.- A. 1625. T4 X ES, Bill to minifter an Oath to make true Accounts thereof, read, * *. Committed, 6 Aug. Timber, and Wood, Bill for Increafe thereof, read, **. Com- mitted, 9 July. Tonnage, and Poundage, Bill read twice, and committed, 5 July. Preamble to be drawn, 6. Bill reported, and to be ingroffed. 7. Paffed, 8. 1° & 2° Car. 1. Parl. 2. A. 1625 & 1626. T4 X ES, publick, Bill to minifter an Oath for making true Account thereof, read, 8 Feb. Committed, 11. ; Tenements. Vide Inmates. Theaker, John, Efq ; Bill to fettlehis Eftate, read, 11 Feb. Com- mitted, 22. Reported, and rejeéted, 27 Mar. Timber, for Shipping, Committee to prepare a Bill for Prefer- vation thereof, 14 Mar. Tonnage, and Poundage, Bill tobe brought in by the King’s Coun- fel, or elfe the Farmers to be fent for to give an Account by what Authority they receive it, 14 Mar. Bill read, * *, Com- mitted, 24 Mar. Motion fora Remonftrance about taking it without Grant in Parliament, and Refolution thereupon, 27 Apr. The taking of it without Confent of Parliament, to be prefented as a Grievance, 24 May. Grand Committee to con- fider of it, 7 June. Report, and feleét Committee appointed to prepare a Remonftrance concerning it, 8. Additional Com- mittees, 10. Committee to meet, 14. Tower, Lieutenant of, Report concerning his Refufal to deliver the Goods in the Ship St. Peter, 1 Mar. To attend eod. die. Called in, and examined, 2 Mar. To attend again, eod. die. Trade, Grand Committee appointed for it, 10 Feb.—Bill for In- creafe of Trade, and Utterance of ftaple Commodities, read, 1 Mar. Committed, 3. Reported, and to be ingroffed, 14.—Bill from the Lords, for Increafe of Trade, 18 Mar. Read, 28 Apr. Turky nes their Petition read, and referred to a Com- mittee, 13 Mar. Petition to the King for them reported, and agteed to, 21. To be prefented, 22. Turnor, Dr. Meflage from the King, about his Charge againft the Duke of Buckingham, 14 Mar. To attend, and Meflage to be confidered, eod. die. Report touching his Charge againft the Duke, 18 Mar. Committee of the whole Houle to confider of the Meflage about him, eod. die. “Committee appointed to fearch Precedents for his Cafe, 21 Mar. Houfe goes into a Committee upon the Meflage, 22. a eee Ee A: A, ig Sear eee = INDEX @ the 3°& 4° Car. 1. Parl. 3. Sef. 1. A.1627 & 1628. ENANTS, in Fee-tail. Vide Leafes. Thornell, Thomas, fent for by the Serjeant, for refufing to bring in his Commiffion for Salt-petre, 17 June. Timber. Vide Shipping. Tonnage, and Poundage, Bill ordered, 21 Mar. Read, 2 Apr. Committed, 4. Reported, and re-committed, 9. Draught of a Remonftrance concerning it, read, eod. die. Referred to the Committee for Trade, 11 Apr. Bill to be confidered in a Com- mittee of the whole Houfe, 17 & 19 May; & 9 June. Select Committee appointed to confider of a fit Courfe to be taken about it, 13 June. Committee of the whole Houfe to confider of it, 18, 19, 20, 21. 23 & 25. Perfons to attend, 18 & 20. 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Committee to confider.of Queftions to be afkdthem of their Manner of coming, and the. Form. ofthe Warant, eod. die. Form of the Warrant, and Manner of-their Rézeption, reported, 1 Mar. Queftions fo be alked themgreported, 2. Attend, and interrogated upon the Firft Queftion, 3. Further Time given them to anfwer thereto, eod. die. Queftion to be given them in Writing, eod. die. Their Anfwer delivered in, and read, 7 Mar. ‘To be further confidered, eod. die. Voted infufficient, and Refolutions thereupon, 8 Mar. Several of the Council of War further interrogated, and Proceedings thereon; 9. Committee appointed to take the Anfwers_of fuch as were fick, eod. die. Their further aufwer delivefed in, 11 Mar. Difcharged from attending till further Notice, eod. die. ye Motion fora Wr at Sea, by a joint Stock of adventur- ers, referrede@ Committee, 14 Mar. Ward, James, alias Farmor, Bill to enable him to fell Lands, read, 17 Mar. Committed, « *. Reported, and to be in- grofled, 4 May. ' : t Wards, Court of, Motion for a Meffage to the King, to defire his Confent to treat about it, 4 May. To be confidered by the Committee appointed to draw a Petition to the King about rectifying his‘Revenue, eod. die. Vide King. Warwick Election, Petition concerning it, prefented, and referred to the Committee of Elections, 9 Feb. Order for the Report, 8 May. WW anna Bill touching them, read, and rejected, 6 May, Welsh Butter. Vide Butter. Weymouth, Mayor of, complained of, for detaining a Member’s Servant Prifoner, and to be fent for, 20 Feb. His Petition re- _ feryed to the Committee of Privileges, 20 Mar.. Difcharged, 22. Town of, Bill for efiablifhing a Church there, read, 22 Feb. Committed, 25. Willis, Mr. Yide Grievances. Wines, Report from Committee of Grievances, touching a new Impofition-thereon, and feleét Committee sppoinlel to confider of it, 20 Feb. Report, and Committee to confider further of it, 25. Draught of a Petition to the King thereon, reported, and agreed to, 8 Mar, To be prefented to . the King, 11.—Report touching the Licenfe to difpenfe with retailing of Wines, 24 May. To be prefented asa Grievance, eod. die. . : Wintertonneffe Light-houfe, to be prefented as a Grievance, 24 ay* Vox. I. a Tire deatoer Vide Apparel. ’ ttneffes, not able to attend, to be examined by.a Sub-committee to be appointed for that Purpofe, 24 Apr. Examination to be taken in Writing, and figned, if the Party will put his Hand to it, eod, die. Wool, &c. Bill againft Tranfportation thereof, read, 13 Feb. Committed, 16. Reported, and re-committed, 24. Reported, and to be ingroffled, 14 Mar. Paffed, 20. Woftenholme’s Bill read, 20 Apr. Writs, new, to be iffued upon Death, or double Returns, 9 Feb. —New Writ ordered tor Eaft Grinftead, in the room of the Attorney-general, 10 Feb.—for Grampound, upon a double Return, 17 Feb.—for Dorfetfhire, in the room of one yoted unduly elected, eod. die—for Clitherow, in the room of a Scottifh Man, not naturalized, 18 Feb.—for Vizes, in the room of Sir. H. Ley, called to the Houfe of Peers, 28 Feb.— for... in the room of Lord Cavendifh, Earl of Devonthire, 6 Mar.—for Ludgerfall, upon a double Return, 10 Mar.—for the. Univerfity of Oxford, in the room of one voted unduly elected, 17 Mar.—for Camelford, in the room of one of the Burgeffes in Execution before and at the Time of his Election, 24 Mar.—for ...in the room of Lord Percy, a Peer, 4 Apr. —for Huntingdonfhire, and Haftings, in the room of Lord Mandeyyle, and Sir D. Carleton, called to the Houfe of Peers, 23 May. 3°.& 4° Car. 1. Parl. 3. Sef 1. A. 1627 & 1628. Wwa4 LDRON, Mr. Vide Stoel. Wales, Lord Prefident of, Bill for exempting feveral Coun- ties and Cities out of his Jurifdiction, read, 17 Sing: Commit- ted, 10. Warner, ae his Petition againft the Eaft India Company, read, and referred to the Committee for Grievances, 25 Mar. Another Petition read, and Counfel afligned him, 12 Apr. Company defired to give way to his being bailed, eod. die. Warwickfhire, Sheriff of, to be fent for by the Serjeant, for not. returning the Knights of that Shire, 20 Mar.—Report touch- ing the Election for Warwick, 31 May. Refolution touching the Right of Eleétion, eod. die. Eleétion declared void, and a new Writ ordered, eod. die. ’ Welbey, Sir William, Deputy Lieutenant of Lincolnfhire, Re- port touching feveral Complaints again{t him' in relation to military Charges,g May. Sent for by the Serjeant, eod. die. Examineéd,.10 May... _Matter-to be further confidered, and he . to-attend, eod. die. Further Report, 23 & 24 June. Refo- lution thereupon refpited, 24. Weobly, Borough of, reftored, 1 May. Weft, Mr. fent for, and examined, about the detaining of the Turky Merchants Goods, 24 May. Wine Merchants, imprifoned for not paying the impofition on Wines, their Petition read, and referred to Committee of Grievances, 22 Mar. To have Liberty to follow their Peti- tion, 26. Report, 27. Re-committed, eod. die. Further Report, and Refolations thereon, 31 Mar. Committee ap- pointed to frame a Petition to the King theupon, eod. die. Petition reported, and to be ingroffed, 9 Apr. Read, and to be prefented to the King, 11. His Anfwer reported, eod. die. To be moved for further Anfwer, 18 Apr. His Anfwer called for, 30. Petition to be renewed, eod. die. Wood, and Timber, Committee to confider of Means to help the Decay of it, and of the Statutes for Prefervation thereof, 25 Apr. Vide Shipping... Wool, Bill to prevent Abufes in winding thereof, read, 14 Apr. Committed, 23. Worrall, Dr. to be heard at the Committee for Courts of Juf= tice, touching divers Complaints againft him, 2 May. Writs, new, ordered for feveral places, waved, 19 & 20 Mar. —A general Warrant to the Speaker, to order new Writs up- «. on Death, or double Returns, 20 Mar—New Writ ordered for Bridport, the former Election being declared void, 12 Apr.—Superfedeas ordered for Stay of'a Writ for Newport, waved by Sir William Killigrew, Two of the other Pertons, returned with him, being declared duly elected, 14 Apr.— New Writs ordered for Hertford, and Lewes,.1 May.—for Webley, and Milborne Port, refiored, eod. die—Order touching the Delivery of the Writ for Hertford, 7 May.— Motion for a new Writ, in the room of a Member in France, difagreed to, 19 May.—New Writ ordered for Warwick, the former Election being declared void, 31 May.—for. ..in the room of Sir Edm. Sawyer, expelled, 21 June. 4°,Car. 1. Parl. 3. Sef? 2. A. 1628. A RWICK, new Writ ordered for it, 20 Jan. Winchefier, Bifhop of, Report from the Committee for Religion, touching a Charge againft him, and Dr. Moore to attend, to juttify it, 7 Feb, Vide Moore—Further Informa- tion € ™~ ~ "me tion againft him reported, and Witneffes to attend, 11 Feb. With ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: HC_journals_COMPLETE_1-175.zip FILE: HCJ_volume_002.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ->
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16° Car.1. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


DMINISTRATIONS, Bill concerning them, read, 29 
Apr. Committed, 1 May. 
Allegiance, Oath of. Vide Oaths. 

Apparel, Bill concerning it, read, 15 Apr. Committed, 
21. Order for fitting of the Committee; Bill recommended 
to the Care of One Member, go. 

Arundell new Writ, 24 Apr. 

Askew, Sir Edw. Report touching his Petition complaining of 
Sir Edward Hufley’s Election; his Indenture to be brought to 
be viewed by the Committee of Privileges, 24 Apr. 

Aylesbury Election, and double Return; Two of the Burgeffes 
returned not to fit till further Order; One, returned in both 
Indentures, to fit, 1 May. 


16° 17° & 18° Car. I. Parl. 5. A. 1640, 
1641 & 1642. 


BBOTT, Mr. 1641, Motion that he might, at his own Re- 
queft, decline his Election ; not granted, 6 July. 

Abdy, Six Chr. 1642, Order for Payment of his Arrears, 23 
July. 

A bell, Alderman, 1640, to be fent for to appear before the Com- 
mittee of Grievances, and to bring his Patent concerning 
Wine, and other Papers relating thereto, 11 Nov. Report 
touching a Complaint againft him ; to be fent for as a Delin- 
quent; Witnefles to be fummoned, 27. Order for bailing 
him, 3 Dec. Revoked, 24. not to be bailed, 19 Jan. 

1641, Serjeant to fearch for his Goods, 31 May. 
Order for bailing him, 31 Ma 1 Sept. 

- 1641, Bill for declaring his and Mr. Kilvert’s Offences, 
ordered, 26 May. To be prefented, 21 July 19 Aug. 
To be read, 26. 

- 1642, his Compofition accepted, 9 Apr. 

Abergenny, 1640, Petition of Inhabitants read, and referred to 
the Committee of Privileges, 26 Nov. 

— Lord, 1642, Lords to be acquainted with the Store of 
Arms, &e. at his Houfe, 11 Aug. 

Abingdon, 1642, Houfe informed of certain Proclamations read 
there ; Richardfon to be fummoned to appear, 12 July 12 
Aug. Vide Richardfon. Mayor to be fummoned to attend, 
12 Aug. To be fent for as a Delinquent, 18.——To be bailed, 
26 Sept. 

Abjuration, Oath of. Vide Oaths. 

Accounts, 1640, of the lait Subfidy, as affeffed on the feveral 
Counties, ordered, 13 Nov. Prefented, 14 of Arrears in 
the Collectors of the Impofitions Hands, to be brought to 
a Committee, 12 Jan. 

— 1641, of any Subfidy neareft 100,000 7. ordered, 7 May. 
of Arrears due to the Scots Army, reported from a Com- 
mittee, 23 July ——of what ready Money will difband the 
King’s Army, reported from a Committee, 27. ——of Poll 
and Loan Money, ordered, 28. Of Poll and Loan Money 
received in London, prefented, 31 July 2 Aug. Of Poll- 
money received in London, Middlefex, and Effex, 5 of 
Poll money: received in the Chamber of London ordered, 23. 
Prefented, 24. of Poll-money in the Hands of the Trea- 
furers and Commiflioners, ordered, 25 O¢ct——of Moneys 
collected upon the Two lait Bills of Tonage and Poundage, 
to be brought to a Committee, 31 July——of Moneys iflued 
for difcharging the Army, prefented, 25 Aug. To be con- 
fidered, 28. 
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1642, Order for Payment of his Arrears, 23 July. Sent 
to Lords, 26. -His Petition read ; Petition and Account of 
Difburfements referred to the Committee for Prifoners, 24 
Sept. His raifing Volunteers to recruit a Company in 
Holland approved, 27 Jan. ‘ 

Coning /by, Fitzwilliam, 1641, Bill for fettling an Eftate upon 
an Hofpital, and for new fettling his Eftate, read, 26 May. 
Committed; Infiruction, 28. Reported, and to be in- 
grofled, 26 July. Pafled, 4 Aug.-—~Sent to Lords, 24 
Dec. 

Conifby, Tho. 1640, Petition againtt him, for rigorous levying 
Ship-money, referred to the Committee thereon, 5 Dec. 

Examination of the ep, RC him, and others, 
referred to the Cominittee for Examinations, 28 Jan. 
Other Petitions of the Inhabitants of St. Albans againft him 
referred to Sir Lewis Dive’s Committee ; Order for bailing 
him, 18 Feb. 

— 1642, his Precept for raifing the Militia referred to the 
Committee for Examinations; Order for his Attendance on 
them; Report touching his Behaviour; Order for his Com- 
mitment to the Tower, 13 Mar. Lieutenant’s Demands 
concerning his Treatment read, and referred to the Committee 
for the Tower, 14. 

— Fitzwilliam, 1641, expelled, 30 Ot. 

——— 1642, to be tent for as a Delinquent, 21 Sept. 

Captain, 1642, Order for Payment of his Arrears, 30 
July. To forbear his Refidence in the Tower, 4 Nov. 

Connaught. Vide Ireland. 

—— Lord Prefident of, 1641, Report that the King~ had 
commanded Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to recommend him 
as a Colonel; Lord Lieutenant to be acquainted that he is 
provided for, 27 Jan. 

Connelles, Owen. Vide Oconnellys. 

Conradus, Wm. 1640, to be fent for as a Delinquent, upon a 
Report touching the Complaint of the Vintners againft him ; 
Witneffes to be fummoned, 27 Nov. Order for bailing 
him, 3 Dec. 19 Jan. 

Confiable and Earl Marfhal’s Court, 1640, a Committee to re- 
ceive Petitions concerning them, 23 Nov. Order for their 
meeting; Committees added, 8 Dec.—Report; the Court 
voted a Grievance; the Committee to prepare a Charge to 
be tranfinitted to Lords, 19. 

Conftable, Sir Wm. 1641, Petition referred to a Committee, 7 
Dec. Vide Dearlove. 

Captain, 1642, Complaints againft him referred to the 
Committee for the Navy, 7 O&. 

Convent Garden, 1640, Bill for making it parochial read, 8 
Feb. 

— 1641, committed, 25 May. Order for meeting of the 
Committee, 12 June. Committees added, 28. Committee 
revived, 28 Feb. 

1642, Order for meeting of the Committee ; Committees 
added, 25 Mar. All that come to have Voices, 3 Aug. 

1640, Bill concerniug ereéting a Parifh Church there 
read, 4 Mar. 

Convocation, 1640, a Committee to confider whether a Mem- 
ber thereof may be fent for by Serjeant, 10 Nov. Members 
fent for, 21 & 24.——-A Committee to examine the Writs for 
continuing the Convocation, when the Parliament was dil- 
folved, 9 Dec. ‘ 

1041, original Books of Entries to be re-delivered, and 
Copies to be delivered to a Member, 13 Aug. 

1641, Bill for punifhing Members of the late Convoca- 
tion read twice, and committed, 27 Apr. Order for fitting 
of the Committee, 5 & 15 May.—All that come to have 
Voices, 25. Order for their Meeting, 16 June. 

—— 1641, like Order, 11 May. 

Conway, 1640, Petition of Burgeffes and Freemen referred to 
Sir Lewis Dive’s Committee, 11 Jan. 

Lord, 1642, his Letter to Lord Lieutenant of Ireland 
read, 18 May. Other Letters referred to the Commiffioners 
for Irifh Affairs, 4 June——Another Letter read, 14. 

Cooke, Sir Walfingham, 1641, to be recommended to the Com- 
mittee for Contributions, 22 Mar. 

——-—~ Mr. 1642, to be admitted into Houfe again, 9 Dec. 





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Mr. a Meflenger for apprehending Priefts, 1642, com- 
mitted to the Gatehoufe for abufing a Foreign Minifter ; to 
make Submiflion to him, 14 Apr. 
jeant’s Cuftody, and turned over to the Gatehoufe, 18.— 

o ftand committed unlefs he make Submitlion within 
a Time limited; Serjeant to give him Notice thereof, 17
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— Earl of, 1642, Houfe informed of his Intention to put 
the Commiflion of Array in execution in Worcefterfhire ; 
Lords to be defired to iflue Warrant for. apprehending him, 
9 July. Order for delivering Arms ftopped at his Houfe 
to Ear] of Pembroke, 22 Aug. 

Coveit, Lady, 1642, to have Liberty to go into Suffex, 24. 
Ot. 















































Council Chamber. Vide Star-chamber. 

1640, Procefs for Fines to be impofed by them to be 
fiayed, 28 Jan. 

Counjellors, evil, 1641, a Committee to prepare Petition to the 
Kiang to prevent Mifchiefs from them, 28 O&t. Order 
for their fitting, 1 Nov. Inftruétions to Counfellors in Scot- 
land concerning them read, 5. 

— 1642, Day appointed for nominating them, 7 & 9 May. 
Lords to be acquainted therewith, 9. 

Courten, Mr. 1642, to have Notice not to difpofe of his Salt- 
petre, 13 June. A Committee to bargain with him for it, 
20. Meflage from Lords concerning a Ship of his _balafted 
with Saltpetre, 21.——Has Licence to difpofe of it,11 Aug. 

Courtney, 

















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Courtney, aliasS myth, Adam, 1641, his Examination, and Papers 
taken with him, referred to Mr. Beale’s Committee; Juf- 
tices of the King’s Bench to be moved for Habeas Corpus to 
remove him from Aylefbury ; Serjeant’s Man to attend them 
for two Habeas Corpora, 27 Nov. 

Ww. 1642, a Committee to examine the Bufinefs con- 
cerning him, 27 O&. Report; Member to prepare Decla- 
ration touching the Commiflion granted him, 28. 

Courts of Juftice, 1640, grand Committee appointed, 6 Nov. 
Petitions referred, 13 & 20. The Committee to ftand, 12 
Jan. Report touching the Parifh Clerk of St. Bartholomew’s, 
25. Vide Bartholomew’s, St. 

1641, touching Mr. Flower, 26 May. Vide Flower. 
——Refolutions about buying judicial Places—about buying 
Offices of Truft—about buying Serjeantfhips at Law to be in- 
ferted among the Caules and Remedies of the Evils of this 

Kingdom, 17 Feb. Vide Grievances. 

1641, Bill for avoiding unjuft Fees in the Offices there- 
of read, 6 July. 
1642, Officers to be affefled to the Bill of 400,000/. ; 

Lift of their Names to be fent to the Commiffioners, 17 May. 

Order againft removing the Records to Oxford, 13 Jan. 

ecclefiattical, 1640, Bill for Reformation of Abufes 
therein read, 1 Dec. 

——— 1641, Committed, 27 Apr. 
Committee, 5 & 26 May. 

— 1642, a Committee to prepare Declaration for their 
proceeding upon Statutes in Force concerning ‘T'ythes, 17 
Oct. 

Cowles, Francis, 1642. Vide Privileges. : 

Cowley, James, 1612, a Letter to Speaker, and Examination of 
Witnefles againft him for dangerous Words, read ; Order for 
proceeding according to Law, 7 May. 

Cowper, Sir Antony Athley, 1640 & 1641. Vide Privileges. 

Francis, 1642, to be f{ummoned as a Witnefs, 14 Apr. 
— Peter, 1642, to have Warrant to go beyond Sea, 21 

A pr. 


—_—— — 


Order for fitting of the 


Sir Wim. 1642, to be fecured and difarmed, 22 Oct. 

— Mrs. 1642, her Agent to have Warrant to go to Ox- 
ford, 27 Feb. 

Cor, William, 1641, Bill for fettling Lands,+late in Poffeffion 
of Sir Geo. Rodney, on him and his Wife, read, 2 June. 

16 July. 

Cradocke, Mr. 1641, Petition referred to the Committee for 
feandalous Minitters, 29 June. 

Craford, Earl of, 1640, his Troop to be cafhiered, and paid, 
30 Nov. 

1641, Motion for paying them a Month’s Pay, 15 July. 
Anf{wer to their Petition, 11 Jan. 

Crake, Michael, 1641, Petition read ; nothing done thereupon, 
12 Aug. 

— 1642, another Petition; Order thereupon, 14 Sept. 

Crakenthorpe, Rich. and John Mufgrave, 1642, Petition and 
Order for their Difcharge. Proceedings upon a Premunire 
to be fiayed, 13 Dec. 

Cramborne, Lord Vilcount, 1641, Petition referred to the Com- 
mittee for Protections, 25 Aug. 

Crane, Sir Rob. 1642, to have Warrant to carry Arms to his 
Houle, 23 Sept. His Servant to have Warrant to go to and 
return from Oxford, 11 Feb.—His Lady to have Warrant to 
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ion concerning the County referred to the 
Committee for fcandalous Minifiers; Committee impowered 
to receive further Informations, 25 Mar. Sheriff to re- 
ceive Prifoners from Scotland, 4 July A Committee to 

refent Names of proper Perfons to put the Propofitions and 
Cieaiione in Execution, 10 Oé.—Lord General to be 
moved for a Commifiion to Gentlemen to raife Forces for Pre- 
fervation thereof, 17. 

——— 1640, Bill to tend Knights, Citizens, and Burgefles, to 
Parliament, read, 28 Nov. 1 Dee. Committed, 1 
Jan. 

1641, Reported, and re-committed ; Order for fitting 
of the Committee, 21 July. to be reported, 7 & 17 Mar. 
Reported, and to be ingrofled, 22. Paffed, 7 Apr. Sent 
to Lords, 12. 

~--—— City, 1640, Bufinefs concerning Images in the Cathe- 
dral deferred, 30 Nov. 

1640, Petition of the Tenants of the Dean and Chapter 
to be read, 14 & 15 Dec. Read, and referred to the Com- 
mittee for the Charge again{t Secretary Windebank, 17. 

- — Bifhop of, 1641, Refolution for impeaching him of High 
Treafon, 30 Dec. Vide Bi/hops-—~Member has Leave to 
vifit him, 8 Feb. 

—— 1642, his Petition read; nothing done thereupon, 29 
Mar. Order for allowing him 8007. per Annum, 6 Apr. 
Durham Houfe, 1642, a Committee to take care of fortifying a 

Neck of Land oppofite to it; Order for that Purpofe, 20 Oct. 

Dutch Ambaflador, 1641, to be thanked for his good Affections 
to the State, 13 Jan. His Anfwer, 17. 

——-— Churches, 1642, Officers to return to Lord Mayor Lift 
of Perfons not receiving Contributions, 6 Dec. 

Duichmen, 1642, Letter and Pacquet brought by them to 
Speaker ; referred to a Committee, 18 Apr. 

Dutton, John, 1640, Petition referred to Secretary Windebank’s 
Committee, 28 Jan. 

Duyquerque, Admiral. Vide Eden. 

Dye, Tho. 1642, Petition; Judges of the King’s Bench to be 
moved for Certiorari and Habeas Corpus, 26 Jan. 

Dyer, Tho, 1642, to be fent up in fafe Cultody, 19 July. 

Dyers, 1640, Petition read, ard referred to the Committee for 
Grievances, 23 Nov. 

Dymock, Charles, to have Warrant to carry Arms, &c. into 
Lincolnfhire, 13 June. 


’ 


16° Car. 1. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


kA RLS eldeft Sons, Lord Steward’s Order touching chang- 
ing their Titles, P. 2. 

Eafilow, new Writ, 17 Apr. 

Ecclefiaftical Courts. Vide Courts, eccletiaftical. 

Elections and Returns, Committee appointed, 16 Apr. Com- 
mittees added, 17. Committee impowered to determine all 
Caufes appearing clear upon View of the Indentures, 18. 
to make a Sub-commmmtiee to confider of double Returns, view 


Indentures, and report to Houfe, 1 May.—Controverted, 
Vide Bewdley, Bedwin, Afkew, Grinftead, Eaft, Ejtington, 
Aylefoury, Burlafje, Butler, Gloucefter, Exon, Harding, 
Hojfkins, Grampound, Michell, Ryegate, Plympton, Mine- 
head, Winchelfea, and Sudbury.—Eleétions and Returns, to be 
quettioned within Ten Days—Perfons returned by more Inden- 
tures than ufual, to withdraw till their EleGions determined 
—Members doubly returned to make Eleétion within Ten 
Days, 16 Apr. Make Election, 16, 17, 18. & 23.—Motion 
that thofe returned by the Sheriff may fit till their Elections 
be determined, 20.—Member difpentfed with from being in- 
cluded in the Order for making Ele¢tion—Declaration againft 
allowing conditional Elections ; Motion that they receive no 
Countenance, 28. 

——— Bill for more due Election of Members, read, 8 Apr. 
—Another Bill for Reformation of Abufes in Eleétions read ; 
both referred to the Committee of Privileges, to frame a Bill 
thereout, 29. 

Ejjer, Petition of Gentlemen, 18 Apr. 

Eyjtington, Election ; Petition, 16 Apr. 

ivon, Mayor of, returned ; Motion about him referred to the 
Committee of Elections, 16 Apr. 


16° 17° & 18° Car. I. Parl. 5. A. 1640, 1641, & 1642. 


FAR L Marfhalls Court. Vide Conjtable, High. 

Earle, Sir Walter, 1641, to go into Dorfetfhire to take 
Care of the County ; Order for expediting his Journey, 7 
May. 

Eafi India Company, 1641, Petition, 23 Aug. Read; Order 
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his Appearance ; Anfwer thereto, 19 Dec—A Committee to 
receive all Petitions againft him and Officers under him, and to 

repare a Charge againft him, and ftop all Proceedings upon a 
Sara for the Payment of Tythes, 22, Petitions referred, 
22, 23. & 30 Dec. 19. 25, & 26 Jan. 16 & 19 Feb. 
——8 Mar.——Their Power inlarged, 23 Dec.—Matters 
tending to the Charge to be communicated to them, 24. 
Committees added, 30. Committee to ftand, 12 Jan. 

— 1641, Order for their meeting, 8. 14. & 22 Apr. 

14 May.—for making Report, 7 May.——go June. 3 

July. Articles reported, read, and to be ingrofled; voted 

‘unworthy to hold any {piritual Promotion ; Lords to be defired 

to join in moving the King to remove him from his Perfon and 

Service, 5. Ingrofled Articles to be read,12. Read, and 

to be fent to Lords, 14. Conference defired for that Pur- 

pole; agreed to, 19. ‘Title amended; Articles to be deli- 
vered at a Conference, 20. Conference to be defired with 

Lords, to join in moving the King for fequeftering him ab 






































Thanked, 























Officio, 28. impeached of high Crimes and Mifdemeanors, 
4Aug. Vide Bishops——of High Treafon, 30 Dec. Vide 
Bishops. 

Vou. Il. 





——— 1642, Order for allowing him 1002. per Annum, 6 Apr. 

for melting down his Plate, 18 Feb. 

Lord Vitcount, 1640, his Caufe to be reported, 24 & 

31 Dec. ——Reported; Proceedings againft him in Ircland 

voted illegal; Satisfaction to be made him; a Committee 

to confider of a Method for prefenting it to Lords; the Com- 
mittee for the Charge againtt the Earl of Strafford to make Ufe 

of the Report, 6 Jan. Order for fitting of the Committee, 12. 

1641, Declaration read, and to be ingrofled, 8 Sept. 

Ely Houfe, 1642, made a Prifon; Serjeant appointed Keeper, 
3 Jan. Lords Concurrence fignified, 10. 

Emanuel College, Cambridge, 1640, Petition concerning it 
referred to a Committee; Statutes, &c. to be brought to 
Houte; Grievances of Wadham College referred, 17 Dee. 
---Committees added, 17 Dee. 2 Mar. Complaints 
againft the Bifhop of Norwich referred, 13 Jan. 

1641, Order for meeting of the Committee, 7 Apr. 

Report, Refolutions touching the Votes of fuperannuated 

Fellows, 22 Mar. 

— 1642, Further Report; Mr. Worthington voted duly 

elected ; fuperannuated Fellows to be pronounced Non Socii, 

29 Mar. 

— 1641, Bill for confirming the Statutes read, 26 June—— 
Committed, 2 July. All that come to have Voices, 12—— 
Order tor meeting of the Committee, 12 Feb. 

Enfield Chace, 1642, Order for paying Perfons who ftayed 
Horfes there, and for ftaying them flill, 21 June.——for 
their attending Lord General for his Directions, 28 July. 

England, New, 1642, Petition of Inhabitants ; Order for their 
being Cuftom-free for Commodities granted by Charter—for 
Agents to collect Monies for tranfporting Children driven out 
of Ireland, 31 Jan. Ordinance concerning their being 
Cuttom-free, 2 Mar. Returned from Lords, with Amend- 
ments, 3. Amendments agreed to, 10. 

Ennies, Captain, 1642, committed to Lord Petre’s Houfe, 2 
Jan. To London Houle, 9. 

Enyon, James, 1640, Bill to fell Lands for Payment of Debts, 
and Advancement of younger Children, read, 23 Jan. 
Read Second time; Queftions for Commitment and Ingrofi- 
ment, feverally Neg.; Bill rejected, 24 Feb. . 



































Epifcopacy, 1640, Petitions from the Counties concerning it to. 


be read, 25 Jan. 

——— 1641, Bill for abolifhing it read twice, 27 May. Com} 
mitted, 27 May.——3. 11, 12. 15. 17, 18, & ig June. 
Preamble agreed to, 11. Claufes for taking away Arch- 
bifhops, &c.; agreed to, 12.—for abolifhing Deans, Deans 
and Chapters, &c. and employing the Lands taken from them 
to the Advancement of Learning and Piety, 15.——The Sub- 
committee to withdraw notwithftanding the Sitting of the 
Houle, 2 July—to report the Bill to the Grand Committee, 
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Vou. MI. 


Edward, 1641, his Service in apprehending Lrifh Com- 
manders come from France, and ftaying the Barque, approved, 
14 Feb. Vide Saltcombe. 

1642, to be thanked for it, 29 Mar. 

Elizabeth, 1641, Petition referred to the Committee 

for Contributions, 5 July. 

Peter, 1642, Committed to the King’s Bench, 27 Dec. 

—to the Clinke; his Son to have Liberty to attend him, 31. 

Sir Edmund, and John, 1642, committed to the Clinke, 

27 Dec. 

Forth, Sir Rob. 1642, Petition referred to the Committee for 
Contributions, 10 Aug. 

Forts and Caftles, 1641, a Committee to inquire into the State 
of the Counties, with refpect thereto, § May.——Order for 
their Meeting, 24 June. Motion for renewing the Order 
for appointing the Committee, 12 July. Committee re- 
vived; Order for their Meeting ; impowered to confider of — 
raifing Moneys for the Supply and Repair of them, 20 Jan. 
—— Meflage to Lords, detiring them to join in a Petition to 
the King to put the Forts into Hands recommended by the 
Parliament ; Anfwer thereto; a Committee of both Houfes to 
prepare the Petition, 1 Feb. Petition reported ; a Committee 
of both Houfes to attend the King with it, 2. His Anfwer re- 
ported, 4. Meffage from Lords, acquainting Houfe the King 
would fpeedily fend a further Aniwer, 6. Further Anfwer com- 
municated by them, and referred to a Committee; Refolu- 
tions thereupon, 7. Returned from Lords, with Amendments ; 
Houfe adhere to their former Votes ; free Conference to be de- 
fired with Lords thereupon ; Managers appointed, and to pre- 
pare Reafons, 8. Reafons reported; free Conference defired ; 
agreed to; held, and reported; Lords Amendments agreed 
to, 9. Names of all Forts, and their prefent Commanders, 
to be delivered to the Chairman, 12.——-Order againft Papifis 
keeping any Forts, Cafiles, &c. 9 July. Refolution con- 
cerning buying and felling Commands thereof; to be inferted 
in the Caufes and Remedies of the Evils of the Kingdom, 17 
Feb. Vide Grievances. Members to prefent to the Committee 
Names of Perfons fit to command them in every County, 18. 

Foffam, Tho. 1642, Lord Chief Juftice to be required to grant 
Habeas Corpus, without Fee, for removing him from York 
Gaol, 4 O&. 

Fofter, Chriftopher, 1642, Order for his Difcharge, 5 Jan. 

Captain, 1642, committed to London Houfe, 9 Jan. 

Fofters, St. London, 1642, Petition of Inhabitants; Lecturer 
recommended, 29 June. 

Fotherby, Captain Hen. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 
20 Sept. Remanded to Prifon, 28 Nov. 

Fotherington, Fra. 1642, Order for continuing him in Prifon, 
15 Sept. 



































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INDEX @ the SECOND VOLUME. 


Foulke, Mr. 1641, to have his Goods out of the King’s Ware- 
houte without Security, 13 Aug. 

— Captain, 1642, Order for his Difcharge, 10 Feb. 

Fountaine, Peter, 1640, Bill for naturalizing him read, 18 Dec. 
Party takes Oaths, 22. Bill committed, 15 Feb. 

1641, Reported, and to be ingrofled, 17 July. 

1641, a Committee to examine him concerning harbour- 
ing a Prieft in his Houfe, g July. Order for Judges of the 
King’s Bench to prdceed againft him; to be delivered to them, 
10. Has Liberty to tranfport Corn from Caen to Dublin, 
7 Mar. 

Jo. 1642. Vide Privileges. 

—— Mr. 1642, to be removed from the Gatchoufe to Wood- 
{treet Compter, 14 Feb. 

Fowke, Lieutenant, 1642, to be taken into Confideration for 
faving Hull, 27 May. Sir John Hotham to be defired to 
thank him, 28. 

Fowler, Rob. 1641, to be fummoned to attend, 18 Mar. 

——-— Rich. 1642, Order for bailing him, 15 Aug. 

Fowles, Sir David, 1640, Petition avowed, and referred to 
Mr. Mauleverer’s Committee, 23 Dec. 

H. 1640, Petition avowed, and referred to Mr. Maule- 
verer’s Committee, 23 Dec. 

Fowyie, 1641, Lord Admiral to be defired to give Direétions 
concerning a Ship from Loo ftayed there, 10 Mar. 

Foxe, Captain, 1641, approved of to be Captain in the Navy, 
10 Mar. 

Foxehall, 1641, Lords to be defired to join in 
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Failure of Appearance before them, 1 June. 

1642, to have Liberty to go in fate Cuftody to Guild- 
hall, 15 Feb. 

Fulham, 1640, Bill from Uords for altering the Tenure of Lands 
there held of the Bifhop of London, g Jan. Read, 22 Feb. 
Committed, 17 Mar. 

1641, Reported, 1 July. Paffed, 27. 

Fulham, Mr. 1640, Report from the Committee for Religion 
touching him; to be fent for as a Delinquent, 23 Dec. 

To be bailed, 19 Jan. 

Fulkes, Captain, 1642, committed to the Gatchoufe, 2 Nov. 

Fuller, Dr. Wm. Vicar of Cripplegate, 1541, to be fummoned 
to appear, 30 Odt. 

1642, Order for fending for him and his Curate as Delin- 
quents, 4 July. Severally examined ; Fuller difcharged ; Curate 
committed to the King’s Bench, 13. His Petition and 
Order for his Difcharge, 4 Aug. 

Dr. Dean of Ely, 1641, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 
for dangerous Words in his Sermon, 6 Nov. To be heard, 9. 
To be bailed, 11. 

1642, his Money to be employed for the Service of the 
Commonwealth, 18 Feb. 

Tho. 1642, Lord Chief Juftice to be required to grant 
Habeas Corpus, without Fee for removing him from York 
Gaol, 4 O&. 

Fullers Clay, and Earth. Vide Wool.—1641, Patent concerning 
it referred to a Committee, 13 May. Report; Order touch- 
ing Arrears to Effex and Suffolk, 24. 

1642, Order for tranfporting it into any Part of the 
Kingdom, 7 Apr. 

Furnes, Henry, 1642, to be fummoned to attend, 6 June. 
Members to withdraw and examine him, 

Fuffll, John, 1642, Petition; Order for bailing him, 7 Dec. 

Fynes, Mr. 1641, Motion for confidering his Bufinefs, 12 July. 


16° Car. I. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


LANVILE, Serjeant, chofen Speaker, 13 Apr. Vide 
Speaker. 

Gloucejter, County, Election ; Report touching it; Sheriff te 
be fent for as a Delinquent, 17 Apr. Vide Trayce. 

God’s Word, Bill concerning the reading thereof read, 29 Apr. 

Goods unadminiftered, Bill concerning the Difpofal thereof read, 
29 Apr. Committed,2 May. 

Grievances, Grand Committee appointed, 16 Apr. Report 
touching Ship-money, 23. Vide Ship-money.—Motion con- 
cerning the Manner of proceeding upon Grievances ;Model of 
them touching Privilegesof Parliament—touching Innovations 
in Religion and the Liberties of the Kingdom propounded ; a 
Committee of the whole Houfe to confider them, and all 
others to be propounded ; Petitions from feveral Counties yee 

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INDEX 0 the 


and referred, 17. Other Petitions read; Model confidered ; 
Records and Proceedings in the Star-chamber and King’s Bench 
to be fent for, 18. Vide Privileges.—Motion for a feleé& Com- 
mittee to take the material Points of Grievances mentioned in’ 
Petitions delivered, or to be delivered, and of all Grievances 
refented by any Member, 20. Report touching them; Re- 
Sedation to confult with Lords thereupon; a Committee to 
prepare Inducements, 23. Inducements reported ; another 
Committee to give Directions for managing the Conference ; 
Motion for inferting a particular Grievance; Anfwer thereto, 
24. Order fer Meeting of the Committee, 27 & 28.—for 
making Report, 28. Parties to attend them ; Report touch- 
ing the Difpofition of the Parts of the Conference ; Refolu- 
tions about divers Heads thereof, 29. Further Confideration 
adjourned, 19 & 30 Apr. and 1 May. 
Grinftead, Eatt, new Writ, 16 Apr. Eleétion, and double 
Return ; Report touching it; Orders thereupon, 24 Apr. 





16°, 17° & 18° Car. I. Parl. 5. A. 1640, 
1641, & 1642. 


G4 INFORD, Erafmus, 1642, ordered into Cuftody, 31 
Jan. 

Gallop, Mr. 1642, to be fummoned to attend the Service of 
Houfe, 29 Nov.——To be brought up in Cuftody, 2 Dec. 

Gamull, F. to be fent for as a Delinquent, 24 Nov. 

Gape, F. 1642, to be fent for asa Delinquent, 29 Aug.- 

Gardiner, Sit Tho. Recorder of London, 1641, Report from 
the Committee tor Seditions—Petition of Citizens of Articles 
againft him, and Proofs in Maintenance thereof; Refolution 
that there is fit Matter for a Charge againft him ; a Committee 
to prepare it, 22 Mar. 

1642, Impeachment re-committed, 26 Mar. To be 

reported, 1g Apr. Articles read ; Order for Second Reading, 

26. Read ; Firft Article pofiponed; Charge re-commit- 

ted ; Committees added ; Order for Meeting of the Committee, 

5 May.—for making Report, 12. Articles read twice; agreed 

to, and to be ingroffed, 13. Ingrofled Articles to be read, 

17. Read, and agreed to; Conference to be defired with 

Lords thereupon ; Managers appointed, 18. Conference de- 

fired ; agreed to, and held, 109. 

Robert, 1641. Vide Privileges. 

——— Michael, 1641, voted a Delinquent for fealing the qua- 
drupartite Indenture for impofing 4os. a Ton upon Wines, 13 
Aug. To be fent for asa Delinquent ; Member to prepare 
a Tranfmiffion againft him, 14. Order for bailing him, 20. 

— Mr. 1642, to be fummoned to attend, 26 Jan. 

Garfield, Benjamin, 1642, to have Warrant to go beyond Sea, 
21 Apr. 

Cintion 1640, King to be moved to difmifs all Popifh Officers 
from the
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rfes fiayed there, and concerning Provi- 
fions for their Safety, read; Member to prepare Order there- 
upon, 13 Sept. Order read, 14. Agreed to by Lords, 15. 

Petition of Watermen referred toa Member, 5 Nov. 

Order touching the Re-payment of Moneys laid outupon 
Fortifications, 19 Dec. 

Bifhop of, 1641, impeached of high Crimes and Mifde- 
meanors, 4 Aug. Vide Bi/hops——Of High Treafon, 30 
Dec. Vide Bishops. 

1642, Order for allowing him 1o0/. per Annum, 6 
Apr. 

Giyn, Mr. 1642, Lettersin his Hands referred to the Cominit- 
tee for Informations, 8 June. 

Glynne, Tho. 1640, Petition referred to Sir Lewis Dive’s Com- 
mittee, 12 Jan. 

_ 1641, Order for fupprefling a Speech printed in his 
Name, 11 May. 

Goddard, Vincent, 1642, to be continued in Cuftody ; Lords 
Concurrence fignified, 7 Dec. 

Godfrey, Mr. 1641, a Committee to examine him in the 
Gatehoufe, and tender him the Oaths, 23 July. 

Jo. Mafter of the Beargarden, 1642, to be fummoned 
to attend ; his Examination in Writing prefented ; committed 
to Newgate; Order againft permitting Bear-baiting, 12 Dec. 

Godhurft, 1642, Petition of Parifhioners ; Leturer recommended, 
9 Apr. Another Petition referred to the Committee for 
fcandalous Minifters, 9 June. 

= Mr. 1641, Words fpoken by him to be confidered, 
3 Dec. 

Golborne, Rich. 1640, Petition read, avowed, and referred to 
the Committee for the Starchamber, 3 Dec. 

Gold, 1640, Information touching tran{fporting it referred to a 
Committee; Violett to attend them; Privilege granted him, 
18 Mar. Witneiles to be difcharged from any Reftraint, 
upon Bonds for their Appearance, 22. 

1641, to have Liberty to go into the Country upon the 
fame Conditions, 30 Mar. Order for Sitting of the Com- 
mittee, 15 May.—2 July.—Papers in the Clerk's Hands, 
relating to the Matter, to be delivered to Perfons having 
Caufes depending in the King’s Bench, 9. Order for re- 
delivering them to Clerk, 10 Nov. 

Gold-wire-drawers, 1640, Petition with the Committee for 
Grievances, referred to the Committee for Trade, 2 Dec. 

Goldwyer, Geo. 1642, Order for difarming him, 17 O&. 

Gonyver, Francis, 1641, Petition referred to the Committee for 

. the Court of Wards, 17 May. 

Good, Gervice, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 14 July. 

Committed to the Gatehoufe, 18. Order for his Difcharge, 


30. 

Goodall, Baptifta, 1641. Vide Privileges. 

Gooday, Captain Forth, 1642, to be removed to Norwich, and 
kept clofe Prifoner in the mean time, 13 Mar. 

Gadi, F. 1642, committed to London-houfe, 16 Jan. 
His Petition, and Order for his Difcharge, 2 Feb. 

Goodman, Jo. a Prieft, 1640, a Committee to prepare Heads for 
a Conference about his ag Narrative of Proceedings 


againft him made at Bar ; Heads reported; Conference to be 


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defired; Manager appointed; Conference defired ; agreed to, 
and held, 23 Jan. Another Conference defired by Lords, 
agreed to; Reporters appointed; Conference held, and re- 


ported ; Houfe to confider of Heads for a free Conference ; 


thereupon, 25. A Committee appointed for that Purpofe, 26. 

Heads reported; Managers appointed; free Conference 

defired ; agreed to; held, and reported; King to be moved 

for his Execution, 27. 

— 1641, his Letter to Speaker, and Petition, read, 25 Oct. 

Goodricke, Serjeant Major Daniel, 1642, to be recommended to 
Lord General, 7 Sept. 

Sir John, 1642, Order againft exchanging him, 21 








Jan. 

Goods, foreign, 1641, Order for freeing them from es and 
Cuftom upon Re-exportation within a Year, 24 Aug. Lords 
Concurrence to be defired concerning a Privy Seal for that 
Purpofe, 25. Signified, go. 

Goodwyn, Mr. 1640, not to fit till his Eleétion determined, 16 
Nov. 





Henry, 1641, Petition referred to a Committee; Pro- 
ceedings complained of therein to be ftayed, 31 July. 

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tee for his Petition 
made a Committee, with Power to aflign and hear Counfel, 
19 Dec. 

~— 1642, Defire of Lords Juftices of Ireland that Houfe 

would move the King to beftow Lands on him, referred to 

the Committee for Adventurers, 13 Mar. 

Sir Bevill, 1642, to be fummoned to attend the Service 
of Houfe, 22 July——g Aug. To be fent for as a Delin- 
quent, 16. 

Greenwich, 1642, Petition of Inhabitants ; Leéturer recommend- 
ed, 31 Jan. 

— Caftle, 1642, Order about fecuring it, 15 Nov. 

Greenwood, John, 1642, Order for his Difcharge, 5 Jan. 

Greeves, Richard, 1642, to be continued in Cuftody, 16 Nov. 

Gregory, Mr. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, for inter- 
rupting the Execution of the Militia; Lords to be defired to 
join herein: Conference defired by them thereupon; agreed 
to; Managers appointed; Conference held ; Lords Order re- 
ported; Lord Lieutenant, &c. to affift in apprehending him, 
18 June. 

Mr. 1642, to be fummoned to attend, 9 Dec. 

Gregory’s, St. by St. Paul’s, 1640,a Committee to confider the 
Bufinefs of pulling it down, and the Complaints of the 

° Parifhoners, 
































IN DEX to the SEcoND VoLuME. 


Parifhioners, 25 Nov. Order for their Meeting, 27 Nov. 

5, Dec. 11 & 12 Feb. 5 & 11 Mar. Commit- 
tees added, 4 Dec-——6 Jan. Whole Bufinefs concerning 
the Church referred, 5 Dec. Report ; the Committee to 
prepare a Tranfmiflion, 6 Jan. 

1641, Tranfmiffion to be read, 12 July. 

1642, Order for Meeting of the Committee ; Parifhioners 
to attend them, 11 May. 

Gregion, Nicolas, 1641, Petition againft the Archbifhop of 

ork prefented, but not read; to be read and confidered, 22 
Feb. 

Grells, Ja. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 9 Aug. 
His Anfwer reported, 19 Sept. 

Grefham College. Vide Crofsby Houfe. 1642, Keeper to 
take Perfons into Cuftody, 30 Oct. Order for removing 
Prifoners from thence to Lambeth Houfe, 17 Dec. Keeper 
to bring Prifoners in his Cuftody to a Committee, 27 Jan. 

Grievances, 1640, grand Committee appointed, 6 Nov. Petitions 
referred, 20, 21.23, & 24 Nov. 11 Jan, Report touching 
the Vifitor’s Complaint againft Alderman Abell, and others, 
27 Nov. Vide Abell. Committee to fiand, 12 Jan. 

— 1641, Perfons fummoned to attend, have Liberty to go 
into the Country, 12 May. Petition referred, 21 July. 

1642, Committee revived ; Order for their fitting ; Pa- 
tent referred, 15 Apr. 

1640, Articles of Grievances from York read—from 
Kent opened, 9 Nov.—From Northumberland read, and 
debated, 10.—Remonftrance read, and referred to the Com- 
mittee, 23. 

1641, a Committee to prepare Declaration concerning 
the Diftempers and Remedies of the Kingdom, 17 Jan. 
Declaration to be reported, 14 Feb. Reported, and re-com- 
mitted to another Committee to make an Addition; Votes 
concerning evil Counfellors referred, 15. Votes concerning 
buying and felling judicial Places—Offices of Truft in Courts 
of Juftice, Forts, &c. Serjeantfhips at Law, to be inferted ; 
Declaration reported ; to be further confidered, 17. Addi- 
tion reported, and agreed to, 18. Form of the Declaration, 
19. Conference to be defired with Lords thereupon ; Mana- 

ers appointed ; Conference agreed to ; Manager added ; Con- 
ference held, 21. Meflage to Lords, defiring them to 
expedite the Declaration ; Anfwer thereto, 23 Mar. 

1642, like Meflage, and Anfwer, 26 Mar. 11 Apr. 

9 May. Conference defired by Lords concerning Mat- 

ters in the Firft Article, agreed to; Reporters appointed, 23 
Apr. 

tt 1641, Conference defired by Lords concerning a Mef- 
fage from the King about Redrefs of Grievances, agreed to ; 
Reporters appointed ; Conference held, and reported ; a Com- 
mittee to withdraw, and prepare an Anfwer ; the Committee 
at Guildhall to prepare it; Lords Anfwer fent down; Houfe 
defired to join therein; Anfwer agreed to, with an additional 
Claufe concerning putting the Tower and Forts into Hands 
the Parliament can confide in, 20 Jan. Meflage to Lords, 
defiring them, if they agree to the Addition, to fend the 
Anfwer to the King, 24. Their Diffent fignified, 25. Vide 
Militia. A Committee to withdraw, and confider the Griev- 
ances prefented by the Common-council of London, 15 Mar. 

— 1642, Petition referred, 28 Mar. 

Griffin, Lady, 1642, Letter to her, relating late Paflages in 
Hants; the Committee for Examinations to inquire after the 
Writer, 9 Mar. 

Griffith, Mr. 1641. Vide Privileges —Excufed from making 
the Proteftation, 6 May. Heard concerning fending a 
Challenge to another Member ; Witnefs examined, 31 Jan. 

— 1642. Vide Privileges—Expelled, 10 Aug. 

Griffiths, Edw. 1641, Petition concerning erafing a Name out 
of the Prefentment for Recufants, es | avowed, and referred 
to the Judges of Affize for Montgomeryfhire, 7 Dec. 

Grigg, Michael, 1640, Petition referred to the Committee for 
Wools, &c. 12 Feb. 

Grimberry, Mr. 1640, to be fent for as a Delinquent, to Anfwer 
a Petition againft him, 12 Dec. 

Grimfton, Serjeant. Vide Quarrel. 

— Mr. 1641, to be fent for to attend, 23 Apr. 

Chriftopher, 1641, Petition; Order for bailing him, 4 

Aug. | , 


1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 16 Sept. 
Grinftead, Eaft, 1640, Election; Report touching it; Lord 
Buckhurft declared duly elected, 16 Nov.— Further Report 
touching Mr. Goodwin's Election, 24 Dec. 
aes; 1640, Petitions referred to the Committee for Trade, 
23 Nov. 

Hall, 1641, a Committee appointed to fit there, 17 Jan. 
Vide Committees. 

Company, 1642, Mafter and Wardens to be injoined 
not to publifh the King’s Letter to the Sheriffs and private 
Halls, 26 Jan. 

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 a Committee, 
24 June. 

1642, to aitend with a Petition he has follicited to get 
Hands to, 5 Apr—To have Liberty to go into the Country, 
and be difcharged till required upon a new Summons, 14.—— 
His Petition, with a Certificate annexed; Orcer tor his Dif- 
charge, 13 Jan. 

Hanipden, Mr. 1640, Proceedings againft hua in the Exchequer 
vored tlegal, 7 Dee. Vote t be enterec, g. larolmenat cf 
the Proceedings in the Couris of Wefimiitter to be vacated, 
6 Feb. 

1641. Vide Privileges, and Kimbolten.—Bufinels con- 
ceruing him referred to Mr. Champeis’s Co:amitice, 1 July. 

Hampton, My. 1641, to be fumnioned to attend, ia Mar. 

Hamptoncourt, 1641, Order for itaying great Saddles going 
thither, 12 Jan. For paying the Watermen their Fare, 13. 

Hanham, Mv. 1642, oilers a Loan of 50/. 12 Sept. Report 
that it is paid, 16. 

Hanmer, Sir Thomas, 1640, Petition read, avowed, and referred 
to the Committee for the Marches of Wales, 18 Feb. 

Hanjard, Captain, 1642, committed to the Clinke, 24 Nov. 
To be difcharged, upon making Proteftation not to ferve 
againft the Parliament, 25 Feb. 

Harbie, Sir Job, 1642, Petition referred to a Committee, 9 Dec. 

Harcourt, Sir Simon, 1641, fent, with an Ailiftant, to Chefter, 
to raife Men for the Service of Ireland; Order for paying him 
2,000 /. 12 Nov.——-Lords to be moved to join in defiring 
the Dutch Ambafiador to write to the States to continue him 
in bis Command, 1 Mar. 

1642, KRoule to be acquainted with the Defires of Lords 

Juftices of freland concerning him ; his Cafe referred to the 

Committee of Adventurers, 7 Apr. Letter concerning him 

referred, 12. 

—— Lady, 1642, Member to prepare a Letter to Lords 

Juftices of Ireland concerning her enjoying a Grant from the 

King, 5 Sept. 

Marquis of, 1642, to have Liberty to tranfport Three 

Horfes to France, 6 Apr. 

John. Vide Davies. 

Harde, Rob. 1642, Order for difcharging him, 5 Jan. 

Hardman, Humphrey, 1640, Petition read, and referred to the 
Committee for Grievances ; Under-theriff of Salop to be feut 
for as a Delinquent, 20 Nov. Vide Wood. 

Hardway, Rich. 1642, his Compofition accepted, g Apr. 

Hardy, Tho. 1641, to be fummoned to attend, 5 Aug. 

Harford, John, 1641, to be fummoned to appear, 15 Mar, 
Vide. Richardjon. 

Harley, Sir Rob. 1641, Petition read, and referzed to the Com- 
mittee for the Marches of Wales, 3 July. 

1642, his Letter referred to the Committee for Safety of 
the Kingdom, 26 Nov. 

Harniffe, Mr. 1642, Order for deducting out of his Account 
Monies paid to Sir Jo. Hotham, 31 Jan. 

Harper, Mr. 1641, to be fent for as a Delinquent ; Examination 
referred to the Committee for Printing, 5 June. 

Auguftine, 1642, Information from him read, and to be 
printed, 17 Sept. 

Harrington, Mr. 1642, Member to confider the State of a Debt 
due to him, 28 O&+——Order for Payment thereof, 3 Nov. 
Harris, Mr. Clerk of the Peace for Salop, 1641, to be fent for 

as a Delingnent, 4 June. 

Mr. of Hanwell, 1642, defired to preach, 27 Apr. 

Thanked, and to print his Sermon, 25 May. 

Sir Paul, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 6 Aug. 

Order for feizing his Eftate, 3 Mar. 

Hen. 1642, to be fent for asa Delinquent, 9 Aug. 

——— Walter, 1642, tv have Warrant to tranfport himielf, &c. 
to France, 5 O&ct. 

——— Captain Vincent, 1642, Bufinefs concerning him re- 
ferred to the Committee for the Navy, 2 Mar. ; 

Harrifon, Mr. 1640, his Cafe referred to the Committee for 
Monopolifts, 23 Nov.—Order about Security to him for a Loan 
of 50,000/, 25. About Re-payment of 25,0007. 2 Dec.— 
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1641, to deliver his Propofitions, concerning advancing 
Money, in writing, 5 May. Voted a Delinquent.—V ote 
not to prejudice him as to his fitting in Houfe, 1 June. — 

1642, Order touching Payment of Intereft due to him, 
26 Sept. ue ' 

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 Petty Bag Office ; their Report, 
1 July.—Letters concerning his demanding the Magazine, &c. 
at Leicefier, read, 4. Refolution for impeaching him of 
High Treafon ; Impeachment fent to Lords; Report of De- 
livery, 13 Aug. Lords to be moved for Proclamation for his 
Appearance at a certain Day, 3o. 

Jane, 1642, to have Warrant to pafs to Holland, 25 
Feb. 

Hafiings, 1642, Mayor to take care of the Paflages, 16 Feb. 

Hatche, Captain, 16041, approved to be Captain in the Navy, 
10 Mar. 

Nicholas, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 9 Aug. 

Hatcher, Mr. 1641, offers his Security for Money, 9 Aug. 

Lieutenant, 1641, to be defired to attend, 3 Nov. 

Hatfield Manor. Vide Fifhlake—1641, Tenants allowed to 
proceed with their Bill in the Exchequer, 27 May. 

— Chace, 1642, Draught of Order for fuppretling Tumults 
there, read, and re-committed, 8 July. 

Haitfell, Henry, 1642, Petition of him, John Blake, and David 
Berry; Order for ftopping Proceedings againft them ; Attor- 
ney to attend, 7 Oét. 

Hatton, Lady Elizabeth, 1640, Petition read, and referred to a 
Committee, 30 Dec. 

——— 1641, Order for their Meeting, 19 May. Her Cafe 
reported; Refolutions of the Committee thereupon, 7 June. 

Mr. 1641, to be fummoned to attend, 18 June. 

Sir Chr. 1642, to be fummoned to attend the Service of 
Houfe, 13 & 20 Aug.—-Voted incapable of fitting during 
this Parliament, 7 Sept. 


Sir Rob. 1642, Voted incapable of fitting during this 
Parliament, 7 Sept-——To be brought as a Delinquent, 7 
Nov. His Petition read; Queftion for bailing him; Neg.; 
Butinefs concerning him referred to the Committee for Exa- 
minations, 19. 

Havant, 1641, Parifhioners to chufe a Leéturer; Minifter to 
admit him the Ufe of his Pulpit, 17 Feb. 

Haverfordwefi, 1642, Mayor to be thanked by Letter for his 
Care in apprehending Perfons, 30 Mar. 

Havers, John, 1642, Order for continuing him in Cuftody, 
13 Aug. 

Hawes, Jofeph, 1640, Petition read, and referred to the Com- 
mittee for Grievances ; Extent upon Bonds to be ftayed, 21 
Nov. Another Petition of him and Partners referred to 
the Committee for Captives, 11 Dec. Withdrawn; to be 
preferred to Lords, 28 Jan. 

- Nath. 1642, Petition referred to the Committee for 
Advance of Moneys in London, 20 Dec. 

Hawkhurji, 1642, Petition of Parifhioners; Leéturer recom. 
mended, 91 Jan. 

Hawkins, Vim. 1642, Refolution touching his Pay as Secre- 
tary to the Commitlion for [rifh Affairs, 24 Sept. 

Hawley, James, 1642, Order for reftoring his Plate, 17 Jan. 

Hay, William, 1642, to have Liberty to pafs the Seas, 7 Apr. 

Hayes, Eufebius, 1641, to have Licence to tranfport Wheat, &c. 
to Ireland Cufiom-free, 25 Feb. 

Heath, Sir Robert, 1642, to be fent for asa Delinquent, 16 
Sept. 

—--— Mr. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 23 Nov. 

Ileaton, Rich. 1640, Petition read, avowed, and referred to 
Earl of Strafford’s Committee, 19 Dec. 

Daniel, 1642, to be fummoned to attend, 12 Aug.—To 
be fent for as a Delinquent, 22. 

Hiebborn, Serjeant Major, 1642, to be fent for in Cuftody, 5 Jan. 

Heblethwaite, Mr. 1641. Vide Privileges. 

-——-— 1642, Order touching the Payment of his Loan, 6 O@. 

To have Warrant to go to York, 25 Nov. 

Hedges, Tho. 1641, not to be admitted into a Fellowhhip till 
his Caufe be heard ; Confideration thereof referred to a Com- 
mittee, 21 Oét. 

Heeren, Peter. Vide Fifher. 

Hele, Tho. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 12 Nov. 

To be defired to lend 2002. 5 Jan. Perfon appointed to re- 
ceive that Sum affeffed upon him, 23. 

Hemmings, Henry, 1641. Vide Privileges. 

Hempfiead, Hemell, 1642, Petitions of Inhabitants; Lecturer 
recommended, 6 June. 22 Aug. Order for fupplying 
the Cure, and fequeftering the Profits thereof, 14 Mar. 

Hen, Hugh, 1642, to have Warrant for a free Paflage to the 
King, 26 Aug. 

Henden, 1641, new Writ, 8 Apr. Election; Petition re- 
ferred to Sir Lewis Dive’s Committee; Petitioner to have 
Notice, 18 Aug. 

Henden, Mr. Baron, 1641, Report of 
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Names of Deputies referred again to him, 17 Mar, Ap- 
proved ; others to be recommended, 22. 

——-— 1642, Petition of Inhabitants read; Member who 
brought it to thank them, 25: Mar.——Another Deputy Licu- 
tenant approved, 12 May. Order for Gentlemen to aflitt 
them in advancing the Propofitions for raifing Harte, &e. 29 
July. Houfe informed of an Oppofition to executing the 
Ordinance for the Militia; Refolutions thereupon, 22 Aug. 

Examinations concerning the Under-fheriff, and others, 

referred to a Committee, 7 & 8 Sept. Order for railing 

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Huntley, Tho. 1642, Lord Chief Juftice to grant Habeas Cor- 
pus for removing him from Newcaftle Gaol, 7 Mar. 

Hunton, Tho. 1640. Vide Privileges. 

Hurft Caftle, 1641, Governor to be fummoned to appear con- 
cerning its going to Decay, 2 Nov. 

Hufjey, Anne, 1640, to be fummoned to attend, 26 Jan. 

1641, to be difcharged from further Reftraint; Money 

to be paid her for prefent Relief, 31 Aug. 

[r. 1641, new Writ in his room, 25 Mar. 

1642, Order touching the Repayment of his Loan, with 

Intéreft, 26 Mar. 

Hubert, 1642. Vide Privileges. 

Hutchins, Edward, and John Caftleton, 1642, Petition read, 
and to be confidered, 12 May. 

Hutchinfon, Mr. 1642, to have Leave to carry down Four 
Mufquets, 15 June. 

——— Jo. 1642, to have Liberty to convey Arms into Not- 
tinghamfhire, 6 July. 

Hutton, Timothy, and Mr. Fletcher, 1641, to be fummoned 
to appear to an{fwer a Petition againft them, 25 O&. Hutton 
ordered into Cuftody, 26. Vide Privileges. 

Sir Rich. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 25 Apr. 
Order for feizing him and his Eftate; Refolution for im- 
peaching him of High Treafon; Member to prepare Im- 
peachment, 15 Feb. 




















16° Car. 1. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


J ENNINGS, Alexander, Petition read, and referred to 
the Committee for taking the material Points of Grievances, 
24 Apr. 
Infants. Vide Recoveries. 
Journals and Records, a Committee to perufe them, 17 Apr. 
Jtchtenhill, Manor. Vide King. 


16°, 17° & 18° Car. I. Parl. 5. A. 1640, 
1641, & 1642. 


JAC K SON, John, 1641, Petition read, and referred to the 
Committee for the Petition from Gray’s Inn, 21 Feb. 
Committee impowered to fend for Witnefles, &c. 24. 

1642, Report; voted a Delinquent; a Committee to 
prepare a Charge againft him, 26 Sept. 

~——— Rob. 1642. Vide Privileges. 

Jacob, Sir Jo. 1640, Complaint againft him referred to the 
Committee for Monopolifts ; uot to fit till his Caufe be heard, 
21 Nov. Report touching him ; expelled, 21 Jan. 

Jo. 1642. Vide Privileges—Committed to the Gate- 
houfe, 25 Nov. 

Jacobs, Lucas, &c. 1642, Petition referred to Lord Admiral, 
17 May. 

Jacobfon, Roma, 1640, Bill to naturalize him, Jo. Strode, 
and others, read, g Mar. Parties take Oaths, 17. 

1641, Bill committed, 15 June. 

1642, Paffed, 12 Apr. 

James, John, 1640, King’s Meffage about his Attempt to aflaf- 
finate Mr. Haywood ; a Committee to inquire into the Fact, 
23 Nov. Report re-committed ; Committees added, 27. 
Free Conference to be defired with Lords: concerning him ; 
Managers appointed ; free Conference agreed to; held, and 
reported, 27 Jan. 

— 1641, Order for re-delivering his Trunks, 17 Aug. 

Bill for Forfeiture of his Eftate, and further Punifhment of 

him, read twice,.and committed, 27 Apr. Order for 

Meeting of the Committee, 4. 10.& 13 May. Committees 

added, 13. All that comes to have Voices, 15. Bill to be 

reported, 19 July. Reported, and to be ingrofled, 20. 

Paffed, 2 Aug. Sent to Lords, 23 Nov.——Returned, 

with Amendments, 22 Mar. 

1642, Amendments agreed to, 8 Apr. Bill fent back, 









































12. 

John, of Barton, Northamptonfhire, 1641, examined 
touching High Sheriff’s Warrant for publifhing a Book, 16 
Mar. Vide athiates County. 

Wim. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 18 

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1641, & 1642. 


EELING, Mr. 1642, Information againft him and the 

Mayor of Hertford; Order for their Attendance, 1 June. 
Witneffes to be examined by the Committee for Informations, 
3. ——Report concerning him; Order for committing him 
clofe Prifoner to Windfor Caftle, and fecuring his Eftate, 2 
Feb. For his continuing there, 11. 

Keeper, Lord, 1640. Vide Finch—declares the Caufes cf fum- 
moning the Parliament, 3 Nov. 

1642. Vide Littleton—Meflage to inquire whether the 
Seal is always in his Hands, 11 Aug. 

Kellaway, Wm. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, for de- 
ferting the Train, 8 Aug. 

Kellett, John, 1642. Vide Privileges. 

Kelly, Lord Vifcount, 1642, Refolution for impeaching him of 
High Treafon, 27 Sept. Vide Cholmley, Sir Robert. 

Kelway, Rob. 1642, Order for difarmng and bringing him up 
in fafe Cuftody, 15 Od. His Petition and Order for his 
Difcharge, 4 Jan. 

Kemp, Rich. 1640, to be fent for by Serjeant to anfwer a Com- 
plaint againft him, 21 Jan. 

1641, not to leave the Kingdom without Leave of 
IToufe, 19 Aug. His Petition to be confidered, 31. Read ; 
Bufinefs refpited, 6 Sept. Has Leave to go to Virginia; his 
Petition remitted to the Confideration of the Governor and 
Council, 8. 

Edw. 1642. Vide Priveleges. 

— Wm. :642, Lord Keeper to be moved to put him out of 

the Commitiion of the Peace, 28 Apr. Report touching 

Letters lately brought by him from Oxford, go Jan. 

Sir Robert, 1642, Order for difarming him, 18 Oét. 

— Mr. 1642, to be fummoned to attend, 23 Dec. 

—~ Sir Nicolas, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 2 
“eb. 

Kendall, Wm. 1642, Petition, 27 May. Vide Bickley. 

Kendall, 1642, Petition of Gentry, &c. read; Speaker’s An- 
fwer to Perfons who preferred it; Petition to be printed, 6 
Aug.— Another read ; Order for Defence of the Town, 3 
Dec. 

Kenkin, David. Vide Hollifton. 

Kenfworth, 1641, Commoners to be reftrained from pulling 
down Inclofures till further Order, 18 May. 

Kent, 1640, Grievances from thence repreiented, 9 Nov. 
Petition of Inhabitants of Marfh Lands read, and referred to 
Dr. Tomfon’s Committee, 22 Dec. Vide Fens Another 
touching Church Government read, and, with feveral of the 
like Nature, debated, 13 Jan. 

1641, Care of the County recommended by Lords, 
7 May. Petition of Clothiers referred to the Committee for 
Clothing, 11. new Writ, 2 Feb. Petition of Gentle- 
men, &c. read ; Speaker's Anfwer to Perfons who preferred 
it; Copy of another to Lords read, and approved, 8.—Earl 
of Leicefter nominated Lord Lieutenant, 10. Deputy 
Lieutenants approved; others to be recommended to ce. 
17 & 22 Mar. 

—— 1642, Others approved, 28 May. 13, June.—Lord 
Lieutenant to be moved to give Deputations forthwith to them, 
7 June—Members Deputy Lieutenants to receive Directions 
from Lord Lieutenant for ordering the Militia, 14. Lords 
to be moved to defire him to grant Deputations, and appoint 
a Day for putting the Militia in Execution, 6 July. Their 
Concurrence fignified, 16. Members Deputy Lieutenants 
to go down, and ailift—Order for Indemnity of Volun- 
teers agreed to by Lords, 6 July.—Deputies to wait on the 
Lieutenant for their Deputations, 13.—Members, &c. to 
take care the Judge, in his Circuit, publifhes the Order con- 
cerning the Commiffion of Array ; to withdraw, and prepare 
Infiructions; Form thereof, 22.—Ear] of Pembroke nomi- 
nated Lord Lieutenant; approved by Lords, 10 Aug. Lords 
to be moved for putting the Militia in Execution forthwith, 
and that the Lord Lieutenant may grant Deputations, 11. 
—Arms to be dittributed by his Warrant ; Perfon to be ac- 
countable to him for what he has already diftributed, 16.— 
Order for valuing the Horfe, and receiving the Contribution- 
money, agreed to by Lords, 19.—A Committee to difpofe of 
Arms for the Ufe of the County—Letter from Mr. Sandys to 
Lord General, defiring the Militia may be put in Execution, 
26.—Inftrutions to the Committee ; agreed to by Lords, 27. 

Member
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. Conference defired by Lords 
concerning them; agreed to; Reporters appointed; Confer- 
ence held, and reported; Order for removing them to St. 
James’s—for recommending it to Earl of Pembroke to conti- 
oL nue 


Ov. ommitted, 30 Dec. 





INDEX w# the SEconpd Votumiz. 


nue his Care of them—Houfe adhere to their former Vote con- 
cerning Mr. Holland, 1 Dec. Agreed to by Lords, 8. 





Servants may take the Oaths, 10 Nov. To be moved for a 
Commiffion to fome Lords to tender them, 13.—Order for 
committing fome of them to the Clinke ; Examination of the 
Bufinefs concerning them referred to the Committee for Infor- 
mations, 19.—Conference defired by Lords touching fome 
Order for their Refort to; agreed to, 14 Dec.—Queftion for 
Leave to them to go, Neg. 21. 

‘King, Sir Rob. Member of the Irifh Parliament, 1640, to be 
fummoned to give Evidence againft Earl of Strafford and Sir 
a Ratcliffe ; King to be moved for Direétions therein, 13 

ov. 

~——— Mr. 1641, Exceptions taken at his reprehending Speak- 
er; ordered to withdraw ; called in, and pardoned, upon his 
Acknowlegement, 15 Feb. 

1642, voted incapable of fitting during this Parliament, 

27 Feb. 

Mr. 1642, to attend, upon Information againft him for 

delivering Skins ordered to be fiayed, 12 July. Matter refer- 

red to the Committee for Cuftomers, 14. 

Rich. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 12 Nov. 

Philip, and John, 1642, to be fent fur as Delinquents, 

23 Nov. 

Dr. 1642. Vide Privileges. 

Kingdom, 1640, a Committee to prepare a faithful Repyefenta- 
tion of the State thereof, 10 Nov. Petitions and a Report re- 
ferred, 13. 16. 25, & 26. Committee impowered to receive 
all Matters for Advancement of their Bufinefs, and prefent 
them to Houfe, 13. Order for their Meeting, 1. Jan. 
For making ufe of fo much of a Petition as will conduce to 
preparing the Remonfirance, 12 Feb. Committee added in 
the room of one called up to Houfe of Peers, 25. 

1641, the Committee to prepare Heads of Grievances, 

2 Apr. Order for their Meeting, 16 & 28.—For making Re- 

port, 28 & 30 Apr. 5 & 29 May. —-12 June. 25 & 

29 Oct. Committee revived, 4 May. Committees added, 4 

May. 11 June. 11 Aug.——Committee to meet, not- 

withftanding the Sitting of Houfe, 5 & 6 May.——To ftand, 

1 June. Declaration read, 8 Nov. Proceedings there- 

upon, 8, 9, 10. 15,& 16. Declaration, with Amendments, 

read, and to be ingroffed, 19. Ingroffed Declaration read, 
and to be debated, 20. Debated and pafled ; Order for print- 
ing it, 22. Same Committee to prepare a Petition to be pre- 
fented therewith, 25. Petition reported, and read twice, to 
be fair written, and prefented ; Copy of the Declaration to be 
fent to Lords, 27.—A Committee appointed to prefent them, 

30. Gentlemen appointed to read them, 1 Dec. Report 

of Delivery, 2. Previous and main Quettions for printing the 

Declaration, feverally Affirmative, 15. King’s Letter to 

Speaker read ; his Anfwer to the Petition read twice, and re- 

ferred to the Committee, 23.—Free Conference defired by 

Lords concerning weighty Affairs of the Kingdom; agreed to; 

Reporters appointed ; free Conference held, and reported—a 

Committee to prepare Heads for a Conference about fecuring 

the Land as well as the Sea; Inftruction, 8 May. Heads re- 

orted, 10.——Committee to prepare Remonftrances of the 

State of the Kingdom and Church, 23 July——Order for 

prefenting it, 2 Aug.—Another Committee to prepare them, 3. 

Order for their Sitting, 7 & 12. Committees added, 11.—— 

Method of putting the Kingdom into a Pofture of Defenee, to 

be confidered, 9 & 10 Aug. A Committee to prepare Heads 

for a Conference thereupon, 14. Heads reported, 16. Free 

Conference defired by Lords concerning appointing a General 

on this Side Trent ; agreed to; Reporters reac free Con- 

ference held, 17. Reported ; Copy of his Commiflion ordered, 

18.—A Committee to confider of furnifhing the Kingdom 

with Powder and Arms
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 Deed to her, 13 July. To deliver it to 
Clerk, as not belonging to her, 23. Clerk not to difpofe of 
it till Notice given her, 31. : 

1642, Order for delivering it to her, Members under- 

taking it fhall be returned upon Demand, 21 Apr. 

— Dr. 1642, to be fummoned to attend, 4 July. Infor- 

mations againtt him referred to the Committee for plundered 

Minifters, 15 Feb. 

Mr. Curate of Greenwich, 1642, to be fent for as a De- 
linguent, 24 Aug. His Petition, and Order for his Dil- 
charge, 8 Sept. 

Laleham, 1642, Petition of Inhabitants; Lecturer recom- 
mended, 26 Sept. 

Lamb, Sir Jo. 1640, to be fummoned to appear concerning 
levying a Tax to maintain an Organ and Organifi, 1 & 13 
Feb. To be fent for as a Delinquent, 22. Dilcharged 
upon his Submiffion, 6 Mar. 

1641, has Liberty to go into the Country, upon Secu- 
rity for his Appearance, 9 Apr. 

Lambeth, 1642, Order for defacing the Crucifix, and removing 
the Altar, in the Church, 10 Nov.— Lord Mayor to be 
moved to appoint a fufficieat Guard there, 14. -Petition of 
Inhabitants read, and referred to Dr. Leighton’s Committee, 
23, Feb. 

——— Ferry, 1642, Order for feizing Horfes and Boats pafling 
by, laden with Ammunition, 12 Nov. 

—— Houle, 1641, to be fearched for Arms, 10 May. 
Meflage to Lords about removing them ; Anfwer thereto, 17 
Jan. 











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1642, to be fearched for Arms, 8 Nov.—The Com- 
mittee for Propofitions to confider of making it a Prifon, 9.— 
Another Committee impowered to take 100 Mariners from 
thence, and difpote of them, 13. Prifoners in Crofsby 
Houle and Grefham College to be removed thither; Keeper 
appointed, 17 Dec.—A Committee to prepare Order for regu- 
lating the Houfe, 23. Order for that Purpofe, 3 Jan.— 
Order for doubling the Guards, 2 Jan. Agreed to by Lords, 
with an Amendment; Amendment agreed to, with an Amend- 
ment, 4. That Amendment agreed to by Lords, 5. 

Lampton, Sir Wm. 1641, Petition referred to the Committee 
for Grievances, 21 July. 

Lancajier Town, 1640, Petition of Inhabitants referred to the 
Committee for feandalous Minifters, 9 Feb. 

County, 1641, Lord Wharton nominated Lord Licu- 
tenant, 10 Feb. Petition of Gentlemen read; Speaker’s 
Anfwer to Perfons who preferred it, 12 Mar— Deputy Lieu- 
tenants approved; others to be recommended, 24. 

——— 1642, others approved, 26 Mar. 28 May. 1 
June, 4 July. 27 Feb. A Committee to prepare 
Letter to be fent down for expediting the Tranfportation 
of Forces to Ireland ; Letter reported; agreed to; to be fair 
written, and figned by Speaker, 13 Apr. Members to at- 
tend the Execution of the Militia; a Committee tu prepare 
Infiructions for them, 9 June. Inftructions reported, and re- 
ferred to Neate Committee ; reported from them, and agreed 

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to, 11. Lord’s Concurrence fignified, 13. Additional Order 
of Power to them, fent to Lords, 15.—Letter from Commit- 
tees read, 27. Report from them and Deputy Lieutenanis 
referred to the Committee for Defence of the Kingdom, 16 
July.——The Committee to confider of fpeedy Defence for 
the County, 29 Aug. of fpeedy Relief, 5 O&.—Order for 
difarming and fecuring Recufants and Malignants—for putting 
divers Juttices of Peace out of the Commiffion ; agreed to by 
Lords, 24. Deputy Lieutenants added, 24 Oct. 3 
Nov. Order for proceeding to the Eleétion of a Mayor, 
notwithftanding a privy Seal to the contrary, 30 Oct. Pe- 
tition of Recufants to the King, and his Anfwer, to be printed 
—Letter from thence referred to the Committee for Examina- 
tions, 12 Nov.—A Committee to examine the Officers of 
Dragoons that were difcharged, 17.—Order about Repayment 
of Money to be raifed for Safety of the County, 22. Agreed 
to by Lords, 24.-——A Committee to take care Moneys 
raifed be not employed againft the Parliament, 9 Dec.—In- 
fiructions to Deputy Lieutenants read, and agreed to, 17. 
Conference to be defired thereupon, 29. Defired ; a
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July. Petitions referred, 17. 21, & 26. 

Lechland, Mr. 1642, to be fummoned to attend, 2 Mar.--— 
His Compofition accepted, 9 Apr. His Petition touching 
Wines, &c. fhipped for the King; Order for delivering 
them, 21 July. 

Leéiures, 1641, Parifhioners of any Parifh impowered to fet up 
and maintain them, 8 Sept. 

Ledgard, Jo. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 26 Apr. 

Lee, Sir Rich. 1642; to be fummoned to attend the Service of the 
Houfe, 6 Aug. Voted incapable of fitting during this Par- 
liament, 6 Sept. 

——— Tho. 1642, committed to the Compter, 27 Dec. 

Leeds, Mr. 1640, to fit till his Eleétion be determined, 15 
Feb. 

---—— 1642, Voted incapable of fitting during this Parlia- 
ment, 23 Nov. 

Legent, Wm. 1642. Vide Privileges. 


Leger, Captain, 1642, Order for Payment of his Arrears, 20 
uly. 


——— Sir Antony St. 1642, committed to the Fleet, 10 
Sept. 

Legg, Richard, 1640, Petition read, and rejected, 13 Feb. 

——— Captain Wm. 1641, his Examination before Lords 
Committees read, 17 Nov. To be fent for as a Delinquent, 
9 Dec. Bufinefs concerning him referred to a Committee ; 
Order for bailing him, 23. His Bail approved, 24. A 
Committee to examine him about carrying down a Commif- 
fion and Inftructions concerning feizing the Magazine at Hull, 
17 Jan. To be fent for as a Delinquent, 20. 

1642, his Bail to bring him in, 16 & 26 Apr-——To be 
fent for by Serjeant, 9 June. A Committee to prepare Im- 
peachment againft him; Lords to be moved that he may be 
committed clofe Prifoner, 12. Their Concurrence fignified, 

13. Another Committee to confider of Means fora »pre- 
hending him; Serjeant to fend Men feveral Ways for that Pur- 
pofe; Ports to be ftopped, 5 O¢t—Lords to be moved to 
take fome Courfe for apprehending him; their Anfwer, 7. 

— Rachell, and Richard, 1641, take Oaths, 18 Dee. 

Leicefier County, 1640, Petition of Freeholders and Inhabitants 
read ; Halford to be fent for by Serjeant, 7 Nov. Vide Hal- 
ford. Particular Grievances concerning military Charges 
referred to Mr. Fant’s Committee, 3 Dec. To the Committee 
for Lieutenants, 14. 

— 1641, Earl] of Stamford nominated Lord Lieutenant, 10 
Feb.— Petition of Gentlemen read; Speaker’s Anfwer to Per- 
fons who preferred it; another to Lords read, and approved, 
15 Feb. Deputy Lieutenants approved; another to be 
recommended, 17 Mar. 

——— 1642, Lords to be moved for putting the Militia in Exe- 
cution forthwith, 28 May. Mellage to that Purpofe, 30.— 
—A Committee to go down, and fee it executed, 4 June. 
Conference defired with Lords concerning Obfirnétions in the 
Execution thereof; agreed to; Managers appointed ; Con- 
ference held, 13. Lords to be acquainted with an Informa- 
tion relating thereto, 15.—A Committee of both Houfes to 
prevent the Commiffion of Array going forth, 17, The 
Commitiion, and Papers concerning it, read, and to be fent to 
Lords, 18. Report touching the Illegality of it; Conference 
defired thereupon; agreed to; Managers appointed; Con- 
ference held, and reported—a Committee to prepare Declara- 
tion concerning the illegality of the Commifion—further Re- 
folution touching the Actors in executing it, 18. 
by Lords, 20.—Bufinefs concerning the Sheriff to be con- 
fidered by Houfe, 28. Referred to a Committee, 30.——To 
report Opinion ; Committees added, 1 July —Keport to be 
made, 5. Made, 6.—Kefolutions concerning preferving the 
Peace of the County, 4.—A Committee to confider off iles Le- 
gality of difcharging one Sheriff, and putting in another, 5. 

Report to be made, 4 Aug.—Order for continuing ‘the 
former, and for his keeping Cuttody of the County, 30.— 
Order for continuing the Magazine where it is, 6.—touching 
Payment ot Officers fent down; Letter and Paper from thence 
communicated by Lords, and to be confidered.—Inftructions to 
the Committees read, and agreed to, 11. Returned from 
Lords, with Amendments; Amendments agreed to, 12.— 
Ammunition going thither to be ftayed, 19.——Order for 
paying Mon
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red, 1 Dec. Debate thereon, 2. To be refumed, 
2 & 3.—Petition of Aldermen, &c. concerning Bifhops Votes 
—putting the Kingdom into a Pofture of Defence, and a Pro- 
REP so to affift the Parliament; Speaker’s Anfwer to Perfons 
who preferred it; further Proceedings thereon, 11. Another 
read; Proceedings thereon, 13. Vide Privileges. Petition 
of Apprentices about an Interruption of the former Petitions; 
Speaker’s Anfwer. Vide Privileges——Petition of Common- 
council-men, &c. concerning putting the Tower into Colonel 
Lunsford’s Hands, read, and avowed, 23. Vide Tower.— 
Petition of Irifh Merchants read; Speaker’s Anfwer; voted to 
be the Senfe of Houfe, 24.——Petition of Traders to the 
Mint, read, avowed, and to be fent to Lords, 17 Jan.—Pe- 
tition of Mayor, &c. Conference to be defired with Lords 
thereupon ; a Committee to prepare Heads ; Heads reported ; 
Conference defired ; agreed to; other Petitions to be read ; 
Members appointed to read them, 25—Petition of poor Arti- 
ficers concerning the Number of Aliens trading in and about 
the City ; Speaker’s Answer; Conference to be defired there- 
upon; a Committee ean Heads, 31. Houfe in- 
formed of Multitudes of Women prefling to prefent a Petition; 
Proceedings thereupon, 1 Feb.—Petition of Porters read ; 
Speaker’s Anfwer, 2.—Petition of Tradesmens Wives read ; 
Members to go out and give them an Anfwer, 4.—Petition of 
Citizens concerning the City Militia unfubfcribed ; fome fub- 
{cribe it at Bar; Clerk to go out and fee others fubfcribe ; a 
Petitioner heard ; Matter referred to'the Committee for In- 
formations, 24. Petition of fome of the Subfcribers read, 
and avowed ; Speaker’s Anfwer to Perfons who prefented it, 2 
Mar.—Meflage from Lords concerning a Petition received 
by them, and directed to both Houfes; a Committee of both 
Houfes to confider of it, 24 Feb. Order for their Sitting at 
Grocers Hall, 2 Mar. Perfon to attend them, 16. Report 
touching the Recorder, 22. Vide Gardiner.—Grievances 
refented by Common-council, referred to a Committee, 15 
SMar.—Petition of the Mayor, &c. exprefling their Care of the 
King, Kingdom, and Houfe, read ; to be entered, and printed ; 
Thanks thereupon, 18. 
1642, Petition of Inhabitants concerning a weekly Col- 
leGtion for the Neceflities of the Kingdom, referred to a Com- 
mittee; Speaker’s Anfwer to Perfons who brought it, 7 June. 
Petition of Common-council-men, touching Abufes in 
the Government of the City, read, avowed, and referred to a 
Committee; Petitioners to attend them; Speaker’s Aniwer, 7 
July. Lord Mayor to be defired not to publifh Proclama- 
tions, 26 Aug. 23 Feb. Petition of Aldermen, &c.; 
Order for removing them tothe Prifons appointed by the Com- 
mittee for Defence of the Kingdom, to be fent to Lord Mayor, 
7 Nov.—Petition of Minifters, &c. concerning the Book of 
Sports, and Propofitions for furnifhing new Levies; Speaker’s 
Anfwer; Petition to be confidered, 11. A Committee to 
treat with a Committee of the City concerning the Propofi- 
tions, 12. Perfons heard touching them; Offer accepted; 
Book of Sports to be burnt by common Hangman; Report 
touching a Commander, 13.—Information of divers Citizens 
at the Door; One heard upon Propofitions touching an Ac- 
commodation, 21. Petition concerning them read ; Thanks 
thereupon, 1Dec.—Copy of a Petition, with Articles, touching 
— to get Hands to it, read, and to be confidered ; 
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Speaker’s Anfwer, 9. A Committee to receive Informations, 
and inquire after the Menaces, 12. Further Paflages relating 
thereto read ; Refolution thereupon; Members to confer with 
the City Council about the Power of calling a Seffion ; Juftices 
of Peace for Middlefex to call one, 13. Lord Mayor and Juf- 
tices to call it forthwith, 15. Perfons bailed, or bound over, 
to be committed to Lambeth-houfe ; Order for apprehending 
them; Faéis referred to the Committee for Examinations ; 
Lift of Per
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fes, 29 Dec. 

Oliver, 1642, to have Warrant to go beyond Sea, 19 




















Dec. 

Lullam, Tho. 1641. Vide Privileges. 

Lunsford, Colonel, 1641. Vide Tower—to be fummoned to 
attend ; feveral Perfons to attend at the fame time, 27 Dec.— 
—Information given of Horfe under his Command. Vide 
Kingfion upon _ieticale be fent for asa Delinquent, 12 
Jan.— His Petition, and Order for bailing him, 2 Feb, 

Lupton, Mr. 1642, Information concerning dangerous Words 


Vo. II. 








To have Warrant for recruiting his Troops out of — 


read, agreed to, and to be fent to Lords, 19 Aug—— His 
Petition referred to the Committee for plundered Minifters ; 
Committee to prepare Ordinance for fequeftering the Profits 
of the Reétory to his Ufe, 10 Mar. 


16° Car.I. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


ACE carried before Speaker upon his Return from the 
King, 15 Apr. 

Market, Clerk of, Bill for better ordering his Office read, 
28 Apr. 

Marphall, Mr. defired to preach, 23 Apr. 

Member excufes himfelf for a Word ufed by him, 18 Apr.—Has 
Leave to be abfent—charging another with offenfive Words, 
acknowleges his Miltake, 22.—Judges to be defired to give 
Precedence to Members in their Motions-—-Member, giving 
Offence in his Speech, pardoned upon his Acknowledgement, 
23—_A Committee to view Clerk’s Notes of fuch as had 
taken the Oaths, 25.—Member thanked for his Service, 28. 

—Names of Places, for which Members ferve, to be added 
by Clerk where omitted, 1 May. 

Meredith, Sir Amias, his Indenture taken off the File, 28 Apr. 

Mefjages from King. Vide King.——Offence taken at a Mef- 
fage by a quarterly Waiter, tor Speaker and Houfe to attend 
the King.in the Houfe of Peers; Black Rod to be acquainted 
therewith, 15 Apr. . 

— from Lords, excufing themfelves for not admitting Mef- 
fengers, 24 Apr. 

Michell, Election and double Return; Petition, 16 Apr. 

ort; Refolution thereupon, 24. 

Middlefex, Petition from, read, and referred to the Committee 
for taking material Points of Grievances, 17 Apr. Vide 
Grievances. | 

Minehead Eleétion; Petition—new Writ, 16 Apr. 

Mortlings. Vide Wools. 











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INDEX © the 


16°, 17° & 18° Car. I. Parl. 5. A. 1640, 
1641, & 1642. 


ACALLY, a Scotchman, 1642, his Commitment to be 
confidered by a Committee, 5 Apr. Matter referred to 
Lord Chief Juftice, 12. 

Maccarthy, Daniel, 1641, Petition read, and referred to the 
Committee for Irifh Affairs, 15 Dec. Another referred to 
the Committee for Contributions, 1 Mar. Vide Ireland. 

Mace, 1640, carried before Speaker upon his Return from the 
King, 5 Nov. 

Mackerill, Mr. 1642, his Imprifonment voted illegal ; Satisfac- 
tion to be made him, 16 Aug. 

Madox, Wm. 1640, Petition referred to the Committee for the 
Court of Wards, 16 Feb. 

Madrin, Tho. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 27 Sept. 

Magazines, 1642, a Committee to prepare Declaration for 
Counties to preferve them, 20 July. Declaration read, and 
agreed to; Lords Concurrence fignified, 26. 

Magdalen College, Cambridge, 1642, Plate ftayed going from 
thence to be laid up in the Chamber of London, 22 Aug. 

- St. Old Fith Street, 1642, Order for fupplying the Cure, 
and fequeftering the Profits thereof, 28 Feb. 

Magenes, an Irifhman, 1641, Information againft him in Writ- 
ing, avowed ; Order for apprehending him, 8 Nov. 

Maguire, Lord, and Mr. Reade, Prifoners from Ireland, 1642, 
Conference defired by Lords concerning them; agreed to ; 
Reporters appointed; Conference held, and reported ; Lords 
to be moved to appoint a Committee to re-examine them in 
the Tower, 20 June. Perfons to attend the Judges that are to 
examine them ; a Committee to be prefent, 22. Order for 
delivering Examinations to Members for their Perufal, 11 
July. Agreed to by Lords, 15.——Order for their Removal 
to Ludgate—for an Allowance to them ; agreed to by Lords, 
23 Feb. 

Mahhewes, Tho. 1642. Vide Privileges. 

Maidftone, 1642. Vide Kent.—Petition of Jurats referred to 
the Committee for the Clerkfhip of che Pea
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an Order of a Com- 
mittee, forbidding him to take Fees by virtue of his Office ; 
Declaration thereupon, 28 July. 

Edward, 1642, Lord Chief Juftice to grant Habeas 
Corpus for removing him from Newcafile Gaol, 7 Mar. 

Manby, Dr. 1642, to be fummoned to attend a Committee, 30 
June. Vide Amys. 

Manchefter, 1642, Letter concerning putting the Commiffion of 
Array in Execution, and feizing the Magazine of the County ; 
Order thereupon, 25 July. Vide Array. Further Informa- 
tion relating thereto, 26——Letters concerning the Siege 
thereof by Lord Strange, referred to the Committee for De- 
fence of the Kingdom; Order concerning Prifoners taken 
there, 3 Oct.—for encouraging Perfons to affift the Townf- 
men in defending themfelves againft him, read, and agreed to, 
6.—Letters concerning the State of the Town, 10.—Relation 
of the Paflages there, read, 11. Information touching the 
Mills belonging to the Free School; a Committee to prepare 
Order for Sequeftration of the Revenues thereof, 10 O&. 
Order againft renewing a Leafe, 11. Order touching the 
Payment of the Garrifon, 29. Agreed to by Lords, 24 
Nov.——Propofitions for raifing Dragoons, referred to to the 
Committee for Difpatches, 3 Dec. 

Mandevile, Lord, 1641, Petition referred to the Committee for 
Queen’s Jointure, 29 June. Vide Queen. 

= Mr. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 12 

ov. 

Manninge, Wm. 1641, Petition referred to the Committee for 
Queen’s Jointure, 2 July. Vide Queen. 

Manfell, Sir Robert, 1641, previous Queftion concerning his 
Cafe, Neg. 28 May. 

Jo. 1642, an Order about Pay to him as Surveyor of the 
Fortifications at Portfmouth, 19 Apr. 

Mansfield, Domingo, 1641, Petition, 2 Dec. Vide Strich 

Mr. and his Apprentice, 1641, to be brought to the 
Houfe feparately, and, upon Refufal, to be apprehended as 
Delinquents, 30 Nov. 

Sir Robert, 1642, to attend with his Patent for fole 
making Glafs, 12 Apr. His Petition read ; Order for deliver- 
ing his Patent to the Committee for Grievances, 15. To 
the Clerk, 31 May. 

Mantle, Walter, 1641, Bill for reftoring him in Blood, read, 
14 - Committed, 5 Aug. to another Committee, 
19 Feb. 

Manwaring, Bifhop, 1640, a Committee to confider all Com- 
plaints, and the Judgment in Parliament, againft him, and 
prepare Bill for reverfing the Pardon granted him, 23 Feb. 

Sir H. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent; difcon- 
tinued Mafter of Trinity-houfe ; Corporation to proceed to a 
new Ele¢tion; Lords Concurrence to be defired, 9 Nov. 
Difallowed from being a Brother, 11. 

Captain, 1642, Cater concerning his fearching for Pro- 
vifions, &c. going to the King, agreed to by Lords, with 
+ eine Order read, and to be paffed by Houfe alone, 
1 Dec. 

Randall, 1642, Petition; a Committee to prepare Or- 
der for enabling him to colle& One per Cent. for the Redemp- 
tion of Captives, 5 Sept. Order reported, 19. Agreed to 
by Lords, 22. His Petition referred to the Committee for 
the Advance of Moneys in London, 20 Dec. 

Manwood, Sir. Jo. 1642, to have Warrant to tranfport himfelf, 
Two Servants, &c. beyond Sea, 2 May. 

Marche, John de la, Minifter in Guernfey, 1641, Petition re- 
ferred to the Committee for fcandalous Minifters, 31 Aug. 

Mrs. 1642, the Committee for the Tower to fee an 
Ordinance for removing her from thence put in Execution, 30 
—— of the Guards to put it in Execution, 10 


Mardee, 





INDEX w# the Seconv Voutume. 


Mardee, 1642, Lord Admiral to be moved to intercept Ships 
bound from thence to Ireland, 9 June. . 

Margarets, St. W efiminfter, 1641, Petition of Lame, Sick, Blind, 
&c. read, 22 June. Petition of Parifhioners; Lecturer 
recommended, 18 Feb. 

St. Lothbury, 1642, Ordinance for fequefiering the Par- 
fonage, read, and agreed to, 13 Feb. 

Maria, Frigate, 1642, Perfons to be thanked for their good Ser- 
vice in feizing it, 15 Aug. 

Mariners, 1641, Bill for prefling them ordered, 7 May. Read 
twice, and committed, 8. Committee to fit notwithftanding 
the Sitting
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embers in the King’s Army, or voluntary Con- 
tributors thereto, voted incapable of fitting during this Parlia- 
ment; Lords to be acquainted therewith, 2 Feb.—-Member 
has leave to go abroad, without vacating his Seat, 4.—Has 
Leave to vifita Prifoner, 23. A Committee to confider of the 















































titteft Method for bringing and keeping Members together, and: 





concerning abfent Members, 25 Mar. Another Committee 

to confider of fuch as are abfent, 17 Aug. Inttruction to prepare 

Declaration concerning difabling feveral tofit; Report concern- 

ing the Bufinefs of abfent Members to be made, 20 & 29 Aug. 

1 Sept. Order for fitting of the Committee, 29 Aug. 

7 Sept. Report; feveral fufpended, 2. Order for proceed- 

ing with it, 2 & 3. Inftruétions; Report touching Mr. Ruffel), 

7.—Mr. Lee, 15.—Sir Rich. Wynne, 20.—Sir Jo. Meux, 27. 

-——Touching Mr. Hebblethwaite, 1 O¢.—Mr. Phillips, 6. 

+--——Further Report; One admitted; others to be fent for, 

4 Feb. Another Committee to confider of filling up vacant 

Seats, 17 Sept.——Another Committee to prepare Decla- 

ration concerning Proclamations againft them; Inftruction 

to confider of Reparation to Perfons plundered by the King’s 

Army, 1 Dec. 

1641, Bill for better enabling them to difcharge their 

Confciences in proceeding in Parliament, read, 2 June.— 

Committed; all that come to have Voices, 3 July. Order 

for Meeting of the Committee, 29——Bill committed to a 

Committee of the whole Houfe, 25 O&. 

1642, Bill for Satisfaction of Damages to fome of the 
Members unlawfully imprifoned in the Fourth Year of his 
Majefiy’s Reign, read, 9 Apr. 

Mepall, 1640, Petition of Inhabitants referred to Dr. Tomfon’s 
Committee, 17 Dec. Vide Fens. 

- Merchandize, 1641, Order againft exporting or importing any 
before Entry, and againft Shipping or Landing Goods but at 
the ufual Quays, 9 Aug. 

Merchant Adventurers, 1640, Petitions referred to the Com- 
mittee for Grievances, 21 Nov.—Another referred to the 
=e for Trade, 22.——Anoiher, concerning the Na- 

ox. LI, 
































turalization .of Merchants Strangers, referred to he Commit- 
tee for Mr. Heeren’s Bill, 21 Jan. Vide Fifher. 
1641, their Propofition for advancing Money reported 
from a Committee, and accepted, 28 May. ‘Their Petition; 
Declaration that Houfe expects the Performance of their Bar- 
gain, 29.——Order jor their Attendance on a Committee, 
17 June. A Committee to confider their Patents for 
Tranfportation of Cloths and Woollen Manufactures, and to 
examine Complaints againft them; all that come to have 
Voices, 14 July. Order for their Sitting, 15. Books in. 
Sir Robert Harley’s Cuftody to be delivered to them, 24 Aug. 
Committee revived ; Order for their Sitting, and con- 
fidering the Condition of Wools, and what may be prejudicial 
to the Advancement of the Prices thereof, 27 Oct. A 
Committee to treat with them about a Loan of 50,000/. for 
Relief of Ireland, 24 Dec. To be thanked for their chearful 
Compliance, 27. Report that they have advanced 30,000/ . 
Refolution for keeping the Money together till the Scots Pro- 
pofitions are agreed on; Ordinance for their Security to be 
prepared, 30. Member appointed to prepare it, 31.~. Or- 
dinance reported, and agreed to; Lords Concurrence figni- 
fied, 15 Jan. Members to move them for the other 20,000/ . 
17.—Order for Intereft for their Forbearance, 17 & 20. 
Committee revived; Order for their Meeting, 7 Feb. & 16 
Mar. Petition referred, 24 Feb. 
1642, Order for Payment of 25,o00/. of their Loan, 
11 Apr.—Order for acquainting them witha Letter from 
Lord Prefident of Munfter—their Refolution fpeedily to ad- 
vance 20,000/. reported ; to be thanked thereupon, 26. 
Order touching their paying it, 2 & 4 May.—For their Security, 
4. Agreed to by Lords, 5.—Another Committee to treat 
with them about forbearing their Loan of 70,000/. and mak- 
ing it up 100,000/. upon Security of an Aé
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rd, Charles, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 8 
Aug. Order for his Difcharge, 13. 

Mowbraie, Lord, 1642, Lords to be acquainted with Informa- 
pe touching Twelve of his Horfes ready to go to York, 30 

une. . 

Moyle, Mr. 1640, not to fit till his Election decided, 6 Jan. 

Moyfe, Mr. 1640, Petition read, 15 Dec. Referred to the 
Committee for the Charge againft the Judges, 16. 

— 1641, referred to Mr. Chambers’s Committee, 1 July. 

Muglefwicke, 1641, Petition of Inhabitants; Order for ftaying 
Proceedings at the Quarter Seffion ; further Examination re- 
ferred to a Committee; Mr. Bradley to be fent for as a De- 
linquent. Vide Bradley. Leturer appointed, 22 Feb. 

Munjier. Vide Ireland. . 

Munjier, Colonel, 1641, Report that King had commanded 
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to recommend him to Houfe as a’ 
Colonel; Lord Lieutenant to be acquainted that he is pro- 
vided for, 27 Jan. 

Murray, Wim. 1641, voted an evil Counfellor, 15 Feb. 

Rob. 1641, to pafs beyond Sea, notwithftanding former 

Order of Reftraint, 22 Feb. 

— Captain David, 1641, approved to be Captain in the 
Navy, 10 Mar. 

—— Mr. 1642, a Committee to confider about demands upon 
him, 26 Nov. 

— Geo. 1642, to have Warrant to pais to the King’s Army 

10 Dec. 

Mr. 1642, Order for delivering his Horfes to Sir Arthur 
Haffelrigg, 14 Feb. 

Mujfchamp, Agmondifham, 1642, appointed Chief Captain of 

ord Kerry’s Regiment, 18 Aug. 

Mufgrove, John, 1642, Petition read, 13 Dec. Vide Cracken- 
thorpe. 

Mujters. Vide Arms. 

Mynhead, 1642, new Writ, 3 June. 


























16° Car. I. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


N4z URALIZATION, Billof. Vide Boene. 
Needlemakers, Bill concerning them and the Steelwire- 
drawers, read, 27 Apr. Committed, 1 May. 

Newton, new Writ, 16 Apr. 

Nonrefidents, Bill concerning them, Pluralities of Benefices and 
Farms taken by fpiritual Men, read, 2 May. 

Northampton, County, Petition of Inhabitants read, and referred 
to the Committee for taking material Points of Grievances, 
17 Apr. 

: , Petition of Inhabitants, 18 Apr, 

Norwich, Petition of {nhabitant$, 18 Apr. 





16° 17° & 18° Car. I. Parl. 5. A. 1640, 
1641, & 1642. 


N4 ESMETH, John, 1641, to pafs beyond Sea, not- 
withftanding former Order of Reftraint, 22 Feb. 

Namptwich, 1642, Letter from thence concerning Horfe levied 
thereabouts ; Proceedings thereupon, 7 June. Vide Gerrard, 
Captain Edward, and Arrowfmyth. 

Nenfin; Jo. 1642, Letter on his Behalf prefented ; further Con- 
fideratioh refpited, 3 Od. 4) 5 af ats 

= Sir Rob. 1640, to fit till his EleGtion is decided, 6 

a 


n. 





1642, to be fummoned to attend the Service of Houfe, 
20 Aug.——To be defired to lend 1,000 /. 5 Jan. 

——— Sir Gerrard, 1641. Vide pent 3 

1642, to be fummoned to attend the Service of Houfe, 

22 July. 12 O&. to be fent for asa Delinquent, 12 

Nov.—To be defired to lend 5001. 5 Jan. . 

Sir Chriftopher, 1642, to be fummoned to attend the 
Service of Houfe, 20 Aug. . 

Nah, Mr. 1642, to be fummoned to attend, 26 Jan. 

Naturalization, Bills of. Vide Booeve, Smyth, a” 




















Fifher, 


oubard, 





INDEX @# the Seconp VoLume. 


Goubard, Fountaine, Marolois, Wright, Holftein, Spencer, 

Kirke, Bogan, Jacobfon, Lawrance, Clerke, Blachford, Re- 
aud, Richaut, Herbert, Philip Henry, Beauchamp, Valken- 
rg, Van, Gerbier, and Garry. 

1640, Time appointed for Perfons having Bills of Natu- 
ralization to be fworn, 12 Dec. 

Navy. Vide Supply—1641, a Committee to confider the De- 
fects thereof, 1g Aug. To confider the whole State of it; 
Papers referred, 25. Report ; Refolution thereupon, 26. Vide 
Supply. Committee revived ; to inquire why no more Money 
comes in, 3 Nov.——Order for their Meeting; Committees 
added ; Committee to fitin London, 17 Jan. Petition re- 
ferred, 20. Committee to meet at Merchant Taylor’s 
Hall,2 Feb ——Ordinence for fetting forth Four Ships for Bight 
Months Service, read, and agreed to, 18 Noy. Conference 
defired with Lords thereupon ; 
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s Intention to 
put the Commiffion in Execution in Warwickthire ; Lords to 
be defired to iffue Warrant for apprehending him, 9 July— 
His Letter, &c. 11.—Meflage from Lords, acquainting Houfe 
they are ready to give Judgment; Judgment demanded, 20. 
—Satisfaction to be made out of his Eftate for Damage done 
by his Troops toa Carrier ; a Committee to confider * pro- 


per Method for it, 25.—Lords to be moved for a Proclamation 
or his Appearance at a certain Day, 30. A Committee to 
confider of his Impeachment, 5 Sept.—Tenants not to pay 
him any Rent, 3o. 


Northcott, Sir Jo. 1642, to be exenfed fending Horfes he has 
underwritten for, 8 Aug. 


— Wm. 1642, Petition read, and:referred to: Mr. Mad. 
dox’s Committee, 18 Au 


Northern Counties, 1642. Vide Supply.—Declaration for fup- 


refling Papifts and other Malignants: affociated. againft the 
King and, Parliament, 17, Nov. Agreed to by Lords, 18.— 
Receiver of the Contribution-money ‘appointed ; Lords Con- 
currence fignified, 24.—Order for fetting. forth Ships for De- 
fence thereof, read, 26. - Agreed to’ by: Lords, 29—— 
Member to prepare a Declaration to fatisty Tenants by‘ Right, 
that the Houfe never intended any thing:to their Prejadice, 3 
Dec.—Order touching their raifing Men, Arms, &c. and re- 
pairing to Lord Fairfax, 5.—Letter concerning the State 
thereof; Refolutions thereupon, agreed to by: Lords, with 
Amendments ; Amendments agreed to—a Committee to con- 
fider of raifing Moneys, and 100 Dragoons, for the Occa- 
fions thereof, 16.—Another Committee to prepare Ordinance 
for raifing Forces in feveral Counties for that Service, and 
of preparing Arms for them—Lord General to be defired 
to appoint a fit Perfon to take care of raifing them—Order 
for Counties to provide a Month’s Pay for ‘them, 17,—Rela- 
tion concerning them referred to the Committee for Dif- 
patches, 22. 


Northfolk, James, 1641. Vide Privileges. 
Northumberland, 1640, Petition of Inhabitants, with a Schedule 


of Grievances annexed, read, and debated, 10 Nov.—Ex- - 
empted from paying towards 100,000 /. voted for the Army, 
16. Another Petition referred to the Committee for 
preaching Minifters, 19 Dec. 





1641, Order for Payment of Billet-money due 
to the Inhabitants—a Committee to perfect the Accounts, 19 
June. Scots agree to pay it out of Moneys to be paid them— 
Members for the County to nominate Commiflioners ; Lift 
approved, 25. Order touching Payment of Arrears due from 
the Scots, besides Sums acknowledged by the Commiflioners, 
to be propofed to Lords at a Conference, 11 Aug——New 
Writ, 9: Dec—Under-theriff to attend, 20. Called in, 21. 

Sheriff to take care of conveying Money through the 
County for the Scots, 28 Jan. Earl of Northumberland 
nominated Lord Lieutenant, 11 Feb.—Order for Payment of 
Money due trom the Scots, 28. Deputy Lieutenants ap- 
proved; others to be recommended, 17 Mar. 





1642, Petition of Inhabitants referred to the 
Committee for feandalous Minifters, 25 Mar.—Letters inti- 
mating there was a Petition walking there, which might be of 
bad Confequence; Parties to be fummoned to attend; Order 
for haftening up Witnefles, 20. A Petition read ; Copy of 
another to Lords read, and approved; Speaker’s Anfwer to 
Perfons who preferred it; Petition referred to a Committee, 
28 May. Commiffioners for preferving the Peace of the 
County to be recommended to Lord General, 7 Sept. A 
Committee to prefent Names of Perfons to put the Propofi- 
tions and Inftruétions in Execution, 8 O¢t.—Order for fendin 
up Moneys brought in upon the Propofitions, ligne. 
General to be moved for a Commission to Gentlemen for 
Prefervation of the County, 17 Nov. 





Earl of, 1642. Vide P/ot.—Order for Payment 
of his Loan, 9 Jan. 





1642, Bill from Lords for conftituting him 
Lord High Admiral, 3 Jan. 


Norton, Mr. 1640, Examined touching an Attempt of the Fel- 


lows of Peterhoufe to feduce his Son to Popery; Bufinefs re- 
ferred to the Committee for Mr. Smart’s 
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y raifed for the Trained 

Bands, 28: June. —-Deputy Lieutenant ‘approved,’ 1° July. 

—Sheriff to recetve Prifoners from the Sheriff of York, 18.— 

A Committee to confider of a’ Method for tranfporting Fullers 

Earth thither,’ 23.—Information ‘of Warrants for raifing Men, 

referred to the Committee’ for Defence of the Kingdom, 30. 

——Treafurers for the Subfcriptions, and Comumiffaries for 

valuing Horfes, appointed, 29 Aug. Petition referred to 

the Committee for Poll-money, 1 Nov. Order for advance- 

ing Money for providing Arms, and fetting forth Officers, 22 

Dec. he Committee impowered to make a Sub-committee 

for Secrecy and Expedition—intercepted Letter from the King 

to the Earl of Newcaftle, fent up by them fealed ; Order tor 
opening it—for re-fealing that and other Letters, and deli- 
vering them to Speaker, 24 Jan. 

Town, 1642, Petition of Mayor, &c. Order thereup- 

on; Lords to be defired to join therein ; Speaker’s An{wer to 

Perfons who prefented it—Captains of Horfe and Foot ap- 

pointed—Lords to be defired to join in Order for removing the 

Magazine from Newark thither, 30 June. Letter from 

thence read; Order thereupon, 8 Aug. Order for paying 

Subfcriptions, 4 Feb——Member to prepare Ordinance for en- 

abling the Committees to feize Malignants Eftates, 10. 

Agreed to by Lords, with an Amendment; Amendment 

agreed to, 13. A Committee to prepare and fend Letter to 

Lord Lieutenant and Deputies, to fend what Forces they can 

fpare to Lord Fairfax, 9 Mar. 

Earl of, 1642, Meffage from Lords, recommending the 

Confideration of his Petition to them, about his Eftate and the 
Support of his Occafions ; Petition read; Anfwer thereto, 
31 Jan. 

Noyes, Mr. 1640, a Committee to inquire about his Books re- 
ceived by Mr. Attorney, 5 Dec. 

Nuce, Wm. 1642, to pay his Share of the Aqueduct-money 
received from the King, and be difcharged of Security given 
upon that Account, 24 May. 

Nulles, Sir Jo. 1640, to attend the Committee for Grievances, 
21 Nov. 

1641, Order for Repayment of Money advanced by 

him, 8 Sept. 13, Dec. 

1642, Cochineal in his Hands not to be tranfported ; 

a Committee to inquire into Paflages concerning it, and con- 
fider of borrrowing Moneys thereupon, 17 Dec. Report; Re- 
folutions for felling it, 22. Previous and main Queftion for 
revoking Order, feverally Affirmative ; Members to treat with 
Claimants, and draw Order upon their Anfwer, 29.—— 
Form thereof 2 Jan. | 

Nurfe, Geo. &c. 1641, Petition referred to the Committee for 
Poll-money ; Order for Stay of Suit, 14 Feb. 

- Mrs. 1642, to have Warrant to tranfport herfelf, Ser- 

vants, &c. into France, 14 Apr. 









































16° Car. I. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


AT HS, a Committee to perufe Clerks Notes of fuch as 
have taken them, 25 Apr. 

Oke, Walter, Colleétor ‘for Ship-money ; Petition concerning 
his Commitment for not paying more than he had received ; 
Refolution thereupon, 30 Apr. 

Olefworth, Dr. defired to preach, 23 Apr. a 

Order of Jaft Parliament to ftand, 16 Apr.—Difpenfed with, 


Oxon, High Sheriff of, Petition againft him read, and referred 
to a Committee; other Petitions read and referred, 24 Apr. 


16°, 17° & 18° Car. I. Parl. 5. A. 1640, 
1641, & 1642. 


O4 T HS, 1641, a Committee to Confider the Statute for 
taking them, 4 Nov. Committees added, 9.—Lords to be 
moved at a Conference, that the Servants of the Royal Family 
may take them, 10.—to be moved for a Commiflion to fome 
Lords to tender them, 13. Meffage to be fent to Lords, 
defiring them to confider of a Commiffion for that Purpofe, 
31 Dec. Sent; their Anfwer, 3 Jan. 
——— 1642, a Committee to confider thereof, and of the 
Manner of tendering them, 3 Jan. 
Vou. Il. 














: 1641, Bill'to render Members, refufing the Oaths, in- 
: — of fitting or voting in Parliament; ordered, 30 
July 


Obryan, Martin, 1640.. Vide Privileges. oe 
Trélagh, 1642, Petition referred to Lord Admiral, 29 





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afile, 1642, Petition of Prifoners to be printed, 14 
Feb. 


Univerfity, 1641, Petition of Mafters and Fellows; 


Order thereupon, 28 June. Vicechancellor’s Oration con- 
cerning the Decay of Learning, referred to the Committee for 
Printing, 23 July. 

1642, Letter concerning lending College Plate to the 
King, read; Order for ftopping it, 12 Aug. Agreed to by 
Lords, 13. Fellows of Colleges not be damnified by 
their Abfence, 1 Feb. Plate trom thence to be melted 
down, 18. 

County, 1641, Petition of Knights, &c. read; Speaker’s 
Anfwer to Perfons who brought it ; another Petition to Loids 
read, and approved—Lord Vifcount Say and Seale appointed 
Lord Lieutenant, 11 Feb.——Houfe informed he will fend the 
Names of his Deputies, 18 Mar. Deputies approved ; an- 
other to be recommended, 19.—Letter, with a Copy of a Pe- 
tition, laying Imputations upon a former Petition ; ~~ Wm. 

aller 





INDEX ¢@o the SEconp VoLuME. 


Waller to be fummoned to appear, 8 Mar. Vide Waller 
Sir Wm.—Commiffion for bounding the Forefts in the county 
to be fent with a Declaration about adjourning the Execution 
thereof, 10. 

1642, Deputy Lieutenant approved, 26 May.—Lords 
to be defired that Lord Lieutenant may take care of the Pre- 
fervation of the Peace of the County—Letter to Committees 
read, and to be fent—the Committee for Defence of the King- 
dom to prepare Declaration to prevent the intended Meeting, 
13 Aug.—Order for Indemnity of Sheriffs for not publifhing a 
Proclamation concerning the Earl of Effex, 18.—-- Sheriff to 
have Warrant for conveying Arms to his Houfe~- Order for 
preferving the Peace of the County, 1 Sept. . Sent to Lords, 
3.—InfiruGtions to Committees read, and agreed to; Lords 
Concurrence to be defired, 13.—Order for adjourning the 
Execution of the Commiflien touching the Bounds of the 
Forefts, 19. 





16° Car. I. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


ARLIAMENT wmeets—caufes of fummoning it opened 
"by the King and Lord Keeper, 13 Apr.—Article touching 
the Liberty of Parliament prepared, and to be confidered in a 
Committee of the whole Houfe, 17. Vide Privileges. 
Diffolved, 5 May. 
Peard, Mr. gives Offence in his Speech; pardoned upon his 
Acknowlegement, 23 Apr. ‘ 
Penance, Bill concerning the Difpofal of Money for Commuta- 
tion thereof, read, 29 Apr. Committed, 2 May. 
Petition re-delivered, not being figned, 21 Apr.—Leave to pre- 
fent a new one, the former being miflaid, 24. 
Pimme Mc. excufes himfelf for a Word in his Speech, 18 Apr. 
—Cleared from having ufed any unfitting Speeches, 22.— 
Thanked for his Service in delivering an Addrefs to Lords, 





28. 

Plimpton Erle, Election, and double Return ; Motion about it 
to be confidered by the Committee of Privileges, 20 Apr. 

Pluralities of Benefices. Vide Nonrefidents. 

Poole, Thomas, Petition read, and referred to the Committee 
for Grievances, 1 May. 

Privileges, Committee appointed—Order touching their Pro- 
ceeding, 16 Apr. Committees added, 17. Committee to 
appoint a Sub-committee to confider of double Returns, and 
view Indentures, 1 May. Article of: Grievance, touching 
the Violation of Privileges of Parliament, to be confidered in 
a Committee of the whole Houfe, 17 Apr. Confidered; Pro- 
ceedings of the Starchamber and King’s Bench, concerning 
feveral Members of the Jast Parliament, queftioned for Paflages 
therein, to be fent for; Warrants iffued for that Purpofe; a 
felect Committee to ftate the Faét, 18. Their Report, 20. 
Order for confulting with Lords about the Breach of Privi- 
leges; a Committee to prepare Inducements thereto, 23. 
Their Report; Refolutions thereupon; Another Committee 
to prepare, Directions for managing the Conference, 24. 
Order for their Meeting, 27 & 28. Perfons to attend them, 
29. Report touching difpofition of the Parts of the Conference; 
Manager appointed, 29. Complaint of a Member’s Goods 
diftrained within Time of Privilege, 18 Apr.—Speaker to 
iffue Warrant to ftay Suits against * during the Time of Par- 
liament; the Contempt of the Arreft declined, not being 
committed within Time of Privilege, 24.—Vote of Lords, 
touching Matters of Supply before it moved from the Houfe, 
declared a Breach of Privilege ; a Committee to prepare an 
Addrefs to them thereupon, 27. Addrefs reported, and to 
be entered; Meffenger appointed to deliver it; Conference 
defired, agreed to, held, and reported ; Meffenger thanked, 
28. Another Conference defired by Lords; Meffengers 
difmiffed without Anfwer; Conference agreed to; Reporters 
appointed; Conference held, 1 May. Reported, 2. 

—— Privilege to Sir Peter Temple, by Stay of Suits at Law 
againft him, 29 Apr.—To Mr. Wharton, by Stay of Suits 
againft him in the Court of Honour; Rainshawe to be fent 
for ; Examination of the Contempt referred to the Committee, 
30.—Privilege to Mr. Tooley, by Stay of Proceedings 
againft him in the Court of Wards, 1 May—Motion for 
Privilege to a Member’s Seryants fummoned to attend the 
Deputy Lieutenant of Hereford ; refpited, 2. ; 

Refolution that Speaker’s refufing to put the Queftion 

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mittee for Deputy Lieutenants, 15. 

1642, votedincapable of fitting during this Parliament— 
new Writ ordered, 11 Aug. 

Percivall, Sir Antony, 1642, to be fent for in Cuftody, i0 
Nov. To be fummoned to attend, 2 Mar. Examined 
touching a Debt due upon the Cuftoms ; Order for fequefter- 
ing and feizing his Eftate, 3. 

Perkins, Richard, 1641, Petition read, o Nov. Another 
read and referred to the Committee for Irifh Affairs; Peti- 
tfoner to be recommended to Lord Lieutenant, 1 Dec. 

Perpetuanaes. Vide Supply. 

Perrott, Geo. 1640, his Petition to the King on behalf of him- 
felf, and other Papifts, read, 1 Dec. 

— John, 1640, to fent for by Warrant, 17 Mar, 

Rich. 1640, to be fent for as a Delinquent, for offen- 
five Words in his Sermon, 19 Mar. 

Pert, Paul, and Jo. Williams, Collectors of the Subfidies, 1642, 
to be charged with 6007. paid by them contrary to Order of 
Parliament, 27 Sept. 

Pefcod, Nicolas, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 2 Dec. 

Peterborough, 1642, Election and double Return; Report; Mr. 
Fitzwilliams admitted into the Houfe ; Sir Robert Napper and - 
Mr. Geo. Fane to forbear fitting till their Eleétions deter- 
mined, 9 Nov.——Further Report; Sir Robert Napper de- 
clared to be duly eleéted, 4 Feb. 

Earl of, 1641. Vide Privileges. 

Bifhop of, 1641, impeached of high Crimes and Mif- 

demeanors, 4 Aug. Vide Bishops——Of High Treafon, go. 

Dec. Vide Bifhops. 
















































































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=——— 1642, Order for allowing him 1007. per Annuu, 
6 Apr. 

Peter’. St. Cornhill, 1642, Petition of Parifhioners; Lecturer 
appointed, 13 Oct. = 

Petersfield, 1641, Parithioners to chufe a Lecturer ; Minifter to 
admit him to the Ufe of his Pulpit, 17 Feb. 

Peterfon, Captain Jo. 1642, Petition; Order thereupon, 13 
Jan.—Order touching paying his Freight and Charges for 
bringing. up Prifoners from Plymouth, 23. 

Petition of Right, 1640, a committee to confider Proceedings 
in Parliament concerning it, 27 Nov. Managers at a Con- 
ference to reprefent to Lords the Fifth Article thereof con- 
cerning Religion, and King’s Anfwer, 16 Mar. 

Petitioners, called in to avow their Petitions, 28 & 30 Nov. 

4,4. 12. 18, 19. 22, & 23, Dec. 2 & 23 Jan. 
——10. 13. i6, 17, & 18, Feb. 1640. 21 & 24 Apr. 
29 May. 1 June——4. 10. & 30, Aug. 1 & 6 Sept. 

1.7. & 11, Dec. 17 Jan. 19. 25, 26, & 27, Feb. 

2 Mar. 1641. 

Petitions, 1640, re-delivered to be read ina full Houfe, 7.9. & 27, 
Noy.—Re-delivered to Perfons that preferred them, 9.— 
Averred, 9 & 28.—Re-delivered to be amended, 20 Nov. 

28 Jan. Inlarged, 26 Nov.—Four preferred to laft 
Parliament renewed, and referred to the fame Committee, 30. 

A Committee to perufe a Petition found in Salifbury 
Plain; Order for burning it by the common Hangman, 10 
Dec.— Another Committee to perufe all prefented, and difpofe 
them to Committees, 12. Impowered to difpofe them to 
what Committees they think fit, 17. To confider {pe- 
cially Petitions concerning the Public; Committees added, 1 
Jan. Order for Meeting of the Committee, 11. Petitions 
withdrawn 11 Jan. 12 Feb. Prefented, but not read, 
4 & 30 Jan.—Re-delivered to be prefented to Lords, 11 & 
28. Withdrawn to be amended, 11 Feb—Recommended 
to Committees for Expedition, 13 & 15.—Rejected, 13.— 
Order for reading the general Petitions from feveral Counties, 
Saas sae receiving any for a certain Time, 3 & 20 

ar. 

- - 1641, like Order, 15 May.—Petition to be avowed be- 
fore a Committee, 19. Remitted to the Parliament in Ire- 
land, 25 & 29 June. 5 Aug. Withdrawn, 9 & 12 
July—Recommended to the Care of Two Members, 30.— 
Recommended by the King, 31. 
not fub{eribed ; Proceedings thereupon, 24 Feb. 

——— 1642, Petitions referred to Lord Admiral, 1, 2. & 4, 
Apr.—Referred to Juftices of Peace, 14 Apr. 17 Aug. 
——~Re-delivered to be fu
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8 Aug. 

Pierce, Jo. 1642, to be fummoned for not paying Money re- 
ceived upon the A& of Contribution, 17 June. 

Piercy, Mr. 1641, Informatiens and Examinations concernin 
him read; Lambe and Merryweather to be brought to Houfe; 
free Conterence to be defired with Lords thereupon ; Mana~ 
gers appointed ; another free Conference defired by Lords, 
agreed to; Reporters appointed; free Conference held, and 
reported, 15 May. Articles againft him to be confidered, 
5, 6.11. 12,13. & 18, Aug—Confidered, 12 & 13. Votes 
and Articles read; Refolution for charging him with High 
Treafon, 12.—Order for refpiting his Pay to be fent to the 
Paymafter, 25.——His Bufinefs to be confidered, 17 Nov. 

A Committee to confider of a fit Method to proceed 
againft him, 6 Dec.—Expelled, 9.—Report to be made, 14. 
—Refolution for accufing him of High Treafon, 17. 

1642, Time to be prefixed for his Accufation, 26 Mar. 

Impeachment to be fent to Lords, 17 June. Letter 
directed to him, communicated by Lords at a Conference, 
opened, and referred to the Committee for Defence of the 

ingdom, 30 July. 

Sir Herbert, 1641, to be fummoned to appear before the 
Committee for Recufants convict, and, upon taking Oaths, 
and giving Security, to have Liberty, 13 Aug. 

Pierpoint, Mr. 1641, offers his Security for Money, 5 Aug. 

1642, has Leave to fend down Arms and Ammunition 
for Defence of his Houfe, 28 May. 

Piers, Wm. Archdeacon of Bath, 1640. Vide Privileges, and 
Bath and Wells. 

Dr. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 29 Mar. 
Examined touching the Kentifh Petition, 1 Apr. Order for 
his Difcharge, 2. 

“~~. 1642, Petition of Parifhioners; Lecturer recommended, 
26 Aug. 

Pinchbach, Captain Tho. 1642, Members to confider of Arrears 
due to him, 5 July. Order for paying them, 5 Oct. 

Pinke, Dr. 1642, to be removed to the Clinke, 17 Nov. 
to be bailed, 5 Jan. 

Pinmakers, 1640, Petition and Proclamation touching them, re- 
ferred to the Committee for Grievances, 24 Nov. 

Pinner, 1642, Petition of Inhabitants; Curate to permit the 
Lecturer to exercife his Minifiry, 17 Aug. 

Pirate, Turkifh, 1640. Vide Captives. King to be moved to 
fend Ships to fcour the Seas of them, 12 Dec. 

1640, Bill for fupprefling and defiroying them, read, 1 Mar. 

——~ 1041, 


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1641, Committed, 3 Apr. Paffed, 28——Sent to 

Lords, 1 May. 

1642, another Bill to the fame Purport ordered; Lord 

Admiral to be defired f{peedily to fet forth Ships, to clear the 

Coafts of them, 23 Apr. 

— 1642, Conference defired with Lords concerning a Re- 
ward to Undertakers for fuppreffing them; agreed to; Ma- 
nagers appointed ; Conference held, 28 Sept. 

Pitt, Mr. 1641, Petition referred to the Committee for the 
Judges, 29 May. 

Place, Samuel de le, 1640, Petition againft the Dean of Jerfey, 
read, avowed, and referred to the Committee for fcandalous 
Minifiers; Mr. Bandinell to be fent for as a Delinquent, 2 
Jan. Vide Bandinell. 

Plague, 1641, Order touching Houfes vifited with it in London 
and Weftminfter, 26 Aug. Extended to Middlefex and 
Surry, 28.—A Committee of both Houfes appointed to 
confider of Order to prevent the Spreading of the Infection, 
6 Sept. Conference defired by Lords thereupon; agreed 
to; Reporters appointed ; Conference held, and reported ; 
Orders trom Lords read, and agreed to, with Amendments, 8. 
Returned; Report of Delivery ; Amendments agreed to by 
Lords, 9. Order for putting it in Execution, 25 Oct. 

Plate, 1641, a Committee to confider of a Method for bringing 
it to be coined, 2 June. Report; Refolution thereupon, 4. 

1642, Order concerning melting and coining it, _— 
to by Lords, 17 June. Form thereo!, 18. Avother Order 
to the fame Purport, 30. July. Ordinance for melting te- 
veral Parcels brought into Guildhali, 18 Feb. 

Playters, Mr. 1642, to have Liberty to tranfport Fou
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Sir Wim. Lewis’s Complaint; Cropp to be fent for as a 
Delinquent, 25 Feb.—Smyth and Lee to be fent for by Serjeant 
for difobeying an Order, 27. Dr. Jefferies to be fent for 
as a Delinquent, for difobeying Orders, 6 Mar—A Com- 
mittee to confider of Declaration to preferve the Privileges of 
Parliament, 13. 

1641, Bill to reftrain the Multiplicity of Parliamentary 
Protections, read twice, and committed; all that come to 
have Voices, 25 May. Order for Sitting of the Committee, 
26. Bill reported, and re-committed, 2 June. Reported, 
and re-committed again, 16. Committees added, 16 & 21. 

Bill to be reported, 20 Aug. 25 Oct.——-Order for 
Meeting of the Committee, 12 Nov.—Bill reported, and 
to be ingroffed, 19. A Committee to prepare Bill to 
reftrain the Privilege of Parliament in fome Cafes during this 
Seffion, 27 Oct. Bill read twice, and committed, 13 Nov. 
Reported, and re-committed, 19. Pafled, and fent to Lords, 
23. Conference defired by them thereupon; agreed to ; 
Reporters appointed ; Conference held, 3 Dec. Lords Amend- 
ments reported, read twice, and committed, 7. —Lords put 
Houfe in mind of the Bill, 29 Jan. 

1642, the Committee for the Bill to meet, and report 
the State thereof, 5 May. Bill to be reported, 3 June. = * 


Probert, Henry, 1642, Lord Keeper to be moved to put him 


out of the Commiflion of Peace, 28 Apr. 


Proclamations, 1640, to be confidered by the Committee for the 


Projectors. 


Starchamber, 12 Jan. 
Vide Monopolifts. 


Proteétions, Parliamentary. -Vide Privileges. 
Proteftants, Englith, 1642, Petition of fome lately come from 


Ireland, referred to the Committee for Contributions, 10 Aug. 
— Another referred, 26. 


Protefiation, 1641, a Committee to prepare one to be made by 


the Members touching a Paper loft; Form thereof reported ; 
feveral Members make it, 23 Apr. 
1641, a Committee to withdraw, and prepare a Protefta- 
tion for the Defence of the Religion eftablifhed, of the King’s 
Perfon, and the Liberty of the Subject ; Proteftation reported, 
and re-committed ; Committees added ; Proteftation reported 
from Re-commitment, and agreed to; Refolution that it be forth- 
with made by every Member; Names of thofe that made it; 
Preamble thereto reported, and agreed to; Conference to be 
defired with Lords thereupon; Managers appointed, 3 May. 
Conference defired, and agreed to; a Committee to view the 
Names of thofe that made the Proteftation, 4. Other Mem- 
bers make it, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 10, 11, 12, 13. 17, 18, 19. 
& 27, May. 7, 8. & 18, June.——5, 6, 9. 13, & 14, 
July.—g Sept.—Proteftation, with the Preamble, to be 
printed and fent by Members to their refpective Counties ; 
Order for Sitting of the Committee; Meflage from Lords ac- 
quainting Houfe they had taken it, 5.—Members excufed from 
making it, 6—A Committee to explain the Word “ Doc- 
trine,” 7. Explanation to be reported; Paper offered for 
that Purpofe referred, 11. Explanation reported, and agreed 
to, 12. Attefted Copies thereof to be given to Members re- 
quiring them, 13. Order for printing it, 14.——-Refolution 
that the Proteftation is fit to be taken by every one; to be fent 
by Members into their feveral Counties, &c. to be printed, 
and attefted by the Clerk, 30 July. Conference defired by 
Lords theteupon; agreed to; Reporters appointed; Confe- 
rence held, and reported; another Conference to be defired 
with Lords ; Managers appointed, 2 Aug. Conference defired, 
agreed to, and held, 3.——Copy of a Letter to be fent to 
Sheriffs, recommending their taking it ; Order for all Perfons 
to take it, 20 Jan. Like Letter to be fent to Mayors, &c. 
of the Cities, Boroughs, &c.. 28. Proteftation to be 
tendered to the Dean and Chapter of Canterbury, &c. 7 
Mar. Certificates concerning taking it to be received by the 
Committee for feandalous Minifters, 8. Members to perute 
them, 17. r 
1642, a Committee to confider the Number and Quality 
of Perfons that have refufed the Proteftation ; Membe
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fifting on a 

Claule, defired by Lords to be omitted, 27. For pafling a 

Bill, 6 Aug. For admitting a Member in Cuftody into the 

Houfe, 10 Sept. For appointing a Day to debate about 

continuing a Committee, 28 Nov. For delivering of 

Money and Plate feized in the Exchequer, 14 Dec.—For the 

Difcharge of a Delinquent, 26. For printing a Letter from 

the King to the Earl of Newcatile, 24 Jan. Concerning 

King’s Anfwer toPropofitions, 8 Feb.—Concerning appointing 

Pertons to treat with him, o. For difiraining upon Mem- 

bers, Non-contributors to the Propofitions—for a new Writ, 

2 Mar.—For referring a Letter intercepted from the King 

to the Queen, 10. 

1641, Affirmative; viz. for referring a Bufinefs to a 

Committee, 20 July. —--For a Petition to the King, 29 Od. 

For committing a Member to the Tower, 25 Nov. 

For printing a Remonftrance, 15 Dec. For voting a Perfon 

fit to be removed from King and Queen, 15 Feb.—For order- 

ing a Bill, 22. 

1642, concerning Lords refufing to attend upon Sum- 

monfes, 11 June. For bailing a Delinquent, 30 Sept.— 

—Concerning Lord Lieutenant’s going to Ireland, 25 O&t. 

Concerning appointing Meffengers to the King, 5 Nov. 

Concerning difabling a Member to fit, 3 Dec.—For re- 

voking an Order, 29.—For defiring the King to remove a 

Perfon from Court, 30. Concerning fearching Chambers 

in the Inns of Court, 23 Feb. 










































































16° Car. 1. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


AINSHAWE. Vide Privileges. 
Reading, new Writ, 17 Apr. 

Records of the Houfe, a Committee to perufe them, 17 Apr. 

Recoveries fuffered by Infants; Bill to prevent Abufes therein, 
read, 16 Apr. Committed, 21. Order for Sitting of the 
Committee, 30 Apr. & 1 May. 

Religion, grand Committee appointed, 16 Apr.—Perfon to be 
fent for by Warrant to attend them, 21. 

Motion that the Clerk may look out the Remonftrance 
for Religion prepared the laft Parliament, 17 Apr. 

——-— Articles of Grievances touching Innovations in Religion 
propounded ; Motion concerning the Manner of Proceeding 
thereupon; Article to be confidered ina Committee of the 
whole Houfe, 17 Apr. Confidered; Report; Order for con- 
fulting with Lords thereupon; a Committee to prepare the In- 
ducements, 23. Inducements reported; Refolution there- 
upon ; another Committee to prepare Dire¢tions for manage- 
ing the Conference, 24. Order for their Setting, 27 & 28. 
Perfons to attend them; their Report touching the Difpofition 
of the Parts of the Conference ; Managers appointed; Refo- 
lutions concerning divers Heads to be handled thereat—For 
a Claufe of Refervation, 29. Further Debate adjourned, 2 
& 39 Apr. & 1 May. 

Returns. lv; . 

Double Returns. f Vide Elettions. 

-a Committee to view fome Returns fent up with Blanks, 
28 Apr. 

Rufhworth, John, admitted Clerk-Affiftant—not to make Notes, 
without the Command of the Houfe; only Orders and Re- 
ports, 25 Apr. 

Ryegate Election, and double Return , Order for the Committee 
to proceed in it, 18 Apr. Report; One Burgels called in ; 
Cafe of the other Two referred to the further Confideration of 
the Committee, 20. 








16°, 17°, & 18° Carl. Parl. 5. 
1641, ¥ 1642. 


A. 1640, 


ACHDA LE, 164;, Bill for eftablithing feveral Parcels of 
Land in the Manor, &c, read, 3 June. Committed; In- 





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firuction; Parties concerned to have Notice, 25. Order for 
Meeting of the Committee ; Committees added, 28. 

Radford, Arthur, 1642, Order for difarming and fending him 
up in fafe Cuftody, 15 Od. 

Radnor County, 1641, Lord Keeper nominated Lord Lieute- 
nant, 11 Feb,—Deputy Lieutenants approved, 18 Mar. 

Rainsford, Francis, 1642, Petition; Order for bailing him, 17 
Sept. 

Reigh ieee, 1642, to pay in his Share of Aqueduct-money 
received from the King, and be difcharged from Security given 
upon that Account, 24 May. 

Raleigh, 1642, Petition of Minifter and People referred to a 
Juttice
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ut preventing plun- 
dering; not to publifh other Proclamations, 26 Dee. 

1642, Order for Indemnity of the Mayor, for not pub- 
ifhing the Proclamation concerning paying King’s Rents into 
the Exchequer at Oxford, or any other againft or concerning 
the Parliament, 23, Feb. 

— Earl of, 1641, Lords to be defired to join in a Petition 
to the King to appoint him Lord High Treaturer, 9 Aug. 
29 Nov. His Petition read, and referred to the Committee 
for Deane Foreft, 20 Dec. Order for making Report, 23. 

Is willing to continue his Loan, 1 Feb. 

1642, to be reminded of a promifed Loan, 3 Sept. 
His Anfwer, 5.—A Committee to prepare Order for paying 
him Moneys affigned upon the Farmers of Woods, 3. Order 
reported, and re-committed, 5. Reported from Re-commit- 
ment, 8. Agreed to by Lords, 9. 

Salisbury, Sir Tho. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent; a 
Committee to prepare Impeachment againft him, 27 Sept. 
Salkeld, John, 1641. to have Warrant for apprehending Priefts, 

and feizing Mafling-ftuff, 9 Sept. 

Salloway, Mr. 1641, Complaint of endeavouring to feduce Mrs. 
Coventry on her Death-bed, referred to the Committee for 
Recufants convict, 13 Aug. 

Salop County, 1641, Lord Keeper nominated Lord Lieute- 
nant, 11 Feb. Petition of Gentlemen, &c. read; Speak- 
ers Anfwer to Perfons who preferred it, 7 Mar.—Deputy 
Lieutenants approved ; others to be recommended, 18. 

1642, Order for fending down the Declaration concern- 
ing the Illegality of the Counusition of Array, 22 July. 
Agreed to by Lords, 23.——-The Committee for Defence of 
the Kingdom to confider of fpeedy Defence for the County, 
29 Aug. Lord Keeper difcharged from being Lieutenant— 
Earl of Effex nominated ; Lords Concurrence fignified, 5 
Sept. Several Deputy Lieutenants difcharged; others nomi- 
nated; Lords Concurrence to be deéfired, 6. Defired, 7.— 
Letter concerning the State of the County, 12. Report con- 
cerning it, 20. ‘ 


Salt, 1640, Petition of Traders referred to the Committee for 
Grievances; Patent, and other Papers relating thereto to be 
brought to Houfe; Patentee to be fent for as a Delinquent, 20 
Nov. Petition referred, 23. Patent referred to the Com- 
mittee for the Petition from Weymouth, 21 Dec.—Salt de- 
tained by Colour thereof, to be delivered to Owners; Pa- 
tentees to forbear taking the Impofition thereon till further 
Order—a Committee to confider of their Profits, and of Re- 
drefs to Parties injured, 24. 

- 1641, Exceptions againft the Defalcations of the Paten- 
tees, referred to the Committee for Cuftomers, 30 Aug. 

Saltaph, 1642, Letter from Mayor concerning Cavaliers coming 
thither, 17 Oct. 

Saltcombe, 1641, Lord Admiral to be defired to feize a Barque 
and Freight ftayed there, bound from France to Ireland, with 
Irifh Commanders; Perfons to be brought up in fate Cuttody, 
14 Feb. A Committee to open Two Letters found upon 
them, 28. Charges to be defrayed out of the Ship and 
Goods, 17 Mar.—Examination touching 500 Englith landed 
out of Ireland, 22. 

1642, Lord Admiral to give Directions concerning the 
Ship and Goods, 29 Mar. Confideration of the Paflengers, 
&c. referred to him, 4 Apr. Trunks and Apparel to be de- 
livered to them in Newgate; Order for their Relief, 30. 

Salters, 1640, Petition read, and referred to the Committee for 
Grievances, 23 Nov. 

Saltmarfhes, 1640, Bill declaring the Law concerning them, 
read, 15 Jan. Committed, 27. Committee impowered 
to aflign and hear Counfel; Committees added, 3 Feb. 

Saltpetre, 1641, Conference defired by Lords concerning the 
Mines; agreed to; Reporters appointed; Conference held, 
26 Aug. Reported, 30. A Committee to receive Propofitions 
from a Committee of Lords for Prefervation thereof, 31. 
Information of a Ship come in laden with Saltpetre ; a Com- 
mittee to view it, 19 Feb. 

— 1642, a Committee to confider the Bufinefs touching 
Saltpetre; Order for their Sitting, 1 July.-—-Order from 
Lords concerning it, agreed to, 7 Dec. 

1642, Bill concerning it to be read, 1 July. 

Saltpetre Men, 1641, a Committee to confider of fending them 
into Counties defiring it, 10 Mar. 

— 1642, Report recommitted, 12 Apr. 

Samjon, John and William, 1642. Vide Privileges. 

Samuell, Arthur, 1642, Petition concerning Money advanced 
towards Payment of Sir ‘Tho. Dawes’s Fine read; Order 
thereupon, 5 July.——Ancther read; Order thereupon, 1 
Aug. 

i Mr. 1641, Order for bailing him, 26 Jan. A 
Committee to inquire by whofe Authority he is difcharged, 2 
Feb. 

— Mrs, 1642, Order from a Committee for putting in Se- 
curity for her Appearance, 17 May. 

— Wm. of Tamworth, Waggoner, 1642, his Examin- 
ation touching Field Pieces carried from Sir Tho. Littleton; 
Order for ftaying them at Aylefbury, and difcharging the 
Waggons and Waggoners, 26 May. 

— alias Holland, a Prieft, 1642, committed to New 
Prifon, 11 Ot. 

Sandwich, 1641, Petition of Parifhioners read; Lecturer re- 
commended, 18 Mar. 

— 1642, Like Petition and Order, 14 July. 

Sandys, Mr. 1640. Vide Crefwell, Serjeant. Docquet of 
his Patent for receiving an additional 12d. on Coals, read, 12 
Nov. Report from the Committee for Monopolifts con- 
cerning him; expelled, 21 Jan. 

Lady, 1641. Vide Privileges. 

Edwin, 1642, to have Liberty to convey Arms into 
Kent, 1 July.—To be thanked for his Services t
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an Order, 2 May. —- 
To prefent Names of Delinquents in his Cuftody, 19 Nov. 

—Deputy approved during his Illnefs, 12 Dec.——Infor- 
mations concerning him referred to the Committee for Ditf- 
patches, 18 Feb. 

Serjeant, 1641, Petition read; Order for paying them One 
Month’s Pay, 1 Sept. 

Serle, Mr. 1640, Inhabitant of a Town vifited with the Sick- 
nefs, admitted mto the Houfe, 6 Nov. 

Sermons, 





INDEX © the 

Sermons, 1641, Order for them in the Afternoon in all Parochial 
Churches, 12 July. . 

feditious. Vide Tumults. 

Seton, Sir Jo. Vide Sandys, Colonel. 

Seyliard, James and John, 1642, to be forthwith fummoned as 
Witnefles, 14 Apr. 

Seymour, Lord, 1641, Lords to be moved for Order-for appre- 
hending him, 28 July. 

Lady, and Daughter, 1642, to be kept in Cuftody ; 

Lords Concurrence fignified, 7 Dec. 

Sir Edw. and Edw. 1642, committed to the Clinke, 
27 Dec.— Edw. voted incapable of fitting during this Par- 
ment, 16 Jan.—Sir Edw. to be removed to the King’s Bench, 
19. 

Shallett, Fra. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 23 Nov. 

Shanagane, Derby, and others, 1642, Petition read, 30 Sept. 

— Richard, 1642, Order for difcharging his Horfes, 2 

Ov. 

Shapcott, Tho. 1642, committed to the Compter, 27 Dec. 

Sharpe, Edward, 1640, to be brought to the Committee for the 
Charge againtt Sir H. Spiller; his Petition referred to them; 

_ has Leave to follow it, 21 Nov. 

Shaw, Geo. 1641, voted a Delinquent for fealing the Quadru- 
partite Indenture for impofing 4os. a Ton upon Wines, 13 
Aug. Member to prepare Tranfimiflion againft him, 14. 
Order for bailing him, 20. 

1642, his Compofition accepted, 9 Apr. 

Hugh, :642, to have Warrant to tran{fport himfelf with 
one Servant to France, 12 Apr. 

Shawbery, Tho. 1642, committed to the Compter, 27 Dec. 

Sheares, Wm. 1642, to attend a Committee for printing a Col- 
lection of Petitions to the King, 14 June. 

Sheep and Lambs Skins, 1640, Petition about them read, and 
referred to the Committee for Grievances, 23 Nov. 

Sheffield, Sir Wm. 1642, fent up from Gravefend; Order for 
difcharging him and his Servant, and for reftoring his Money, 
&c.; to have a Pafs to go to Holland, 25 Feb. 

Shelden, Dr. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 29 Mar. 
——-Called in concerning the Kentifh Petition, 4 Apr. To 
be bailed, 7. 

Sheldon, Wm. and Edward, 1641, Meffage from Lords, ac- 
uaiuting Houfe what time they intended to proceed in their 

Bufinets 27 Nov. 

Shelly, Lady, 1641, Letter to her read; a Committee to exa- 
mine her thereupon and fearch her Houfe, 2 May. -——Report, 
11 June. 

Enfign Rich. 1642, committed to Lord Petre’s Houle, 

2 Jan. l'o be removed to Plymouth, and kept clofe Pri- 

foner, 13 Mar. 

Entfign Tho. 1642, to be removed to Plymouth, and 
kept clofe Prifoner, 13 Mar. 

Shelton, Kobert, 1642, Speaker to iffue Warrant for apprehend- 
ing him, 19 O&. 

Shepheard, Mr. 1640 & 1641. Vide Privileges. 

Herman, 1641, to be fummoned to appear to anfwer a 

Petition againft him, 1 Sept—To be fent for by Serjeant, 9. 

Vide Privileges. 

Henry, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 29 O&. 

Shepton Mallett, 1642, Letter from thence relating Paflages 
concerning putting the Commiflion of Array in Execution, 
read; Refolutions thereupon; Letter and Votes to be printed ; 
a Committee to prepare Letter of Thanks; Conference defired 
with Lords; agreed to; Managers appointed; Conference 
held, 5 Aug. 

Sherborne, John and Son, 1641, to be fent for by Serjeant, 17 
Nov. A Committee to examine them, 18. John to be com- 
mitted to the Gate-houfe, 22. Queftion for removing him to 
New Prifon, Neg. 24. 

Catterall, a Prieft, 1642, Lord Chief Juftice to be 
moved for Habeas Corpus to remove him to Lancafter Gaol, 
18 May. 

a Mis. 1642, to be removed out of the Tower, 10 Nov. 

The Committee for the Tower to fee an Ordinance for 
that Purpofe put in Execution, 30 Jan. Captain of the 
Guards to put it in Execution, 10 Mar. 

Sherborne, 1642, Papers to be fen
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23 Apr.——o July 

3 Aug. 17 & 29 Sept——To acquaint Houfe every 
Morning with the Orders of the Day, 9 May——-To write 
a Letter to the Judges of the King’s Bench, to acquaint them 
a Perfon is within Privilege, 13.—To atteft whatever is print- 
ed by Order of Houfe, 27.——Too iffue Warrant for bringing a 
Perfon to be named to him, 8 June. Queftion that he put 
Houfe in mind of an Order, a 6 July.——Committee to 


take Courfe for Payment of the Refidue of the Money allotted 
him, 26 Sept. 





To iffue Warrant for feizing Monies of 
Perfons to be nominated to him, 7 Mar. 

Speede, Wm. 1642. Vide Privileges. 

Spelman, Sir Jo. 1642, Order for difarming him, 18 O&. 


Spence, John, 1642, to have Warrant to tranfport himfelf to 
France, 12 May. 


Spencer, Dorothy, 1640, Bill from Lords to naturalize her, 3 
“Mar. Read, 13. 

1641, read twice, and pafled without Commitment, 12 
Apr.—Sent to Lords, 10 May. 

—— John, a Lay Preacher, 1641, to be f{ummoned to attend, 
5 June. Reprehended, 7. 

Rich. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 28 Mar. 

Examined touching the Kentifh Petition; further Exa- 
mination referred to a Committee of both Houfes, 1 Apr. 
Vide Kent. Report; Order for bailing him. His Security ac- 
cepted, o. Articles of Impeachment againft him read, and to 
be ingroffed, 4 May.—Ingrofled Articles to be read, and fent 
to Lords,9. Read; Conference to be defired thereupon, 10. 
Defired and agreed to, 11. His Bail to furrender him, 2 
Aug. Lords to be defired to fummon them, 6. 

Sir Edward, 1642, Warrant for fending for him as a 
Delinquent; refpited ; his Houte to be fearched for Ordinance, 
&e. 5 Nov. 

Wm. 1642, ordered into Cuftody, 18 Jan. 

Spike, Mr. 1642, Order for his Difcharge, 23 Jan. 

Spiller, Sir H. 1640, to be fent for by Serjeant,14 Nov. To 
remain in Cufiody, 18, 19, 20 & 21.—To attend, 20.— 
A Committee to prepare Charge againft him ; a Petitioner to 
be brought to them; Petitions referred, 21. Report from the 
Committee of Greivances referred, 25. To be bailed, 3 
Dec. Committees added, 10. Order for Meeting of the 
Committee, 31. 

Spillman, Sir Jo. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 10 Dec. 

Spilman, Mr. 1642. Vide Byerlie. 

Spofford, John, 1642, Petition; Order thereupon, 19 Dec. 
Ordinance for placing him in the Vicarage of Silkften ; read, 
and re-committed, 20. Reported and agreed to, 24. 

Sports, Book of. Vide Communion Tables. 1642, Refolution 
for burning it by the common Hangman, 13 Nov. 

Squire, Thomas, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 12 Jan. 
—His Petition referred to the Committee, 23. 

a Captain, 1641, approved to be Captain in the Navy, 
10 Mar. 

Stacy, a Carrier, 1642, Order for difcharging him and his Horfes, 
10 Mar. 

Stafford, County, 1640, new Writ, 16 Mar. 

— 1641, Letter to be written to Juftices, to be careful in 
feizing the Arms of Recufants, 21 Mar. 

— 1642, Petition of Gentlemen read; Speaker’s Anfwer 
to Perfons who brought it; Copy of another. to Lords, read, 
and approved, 14 May. Perfons to be recommended to 
Lord General to raife and command Companies for the Safety 
of the County, 24 Nov.—Judges to be moved for Habeas Cor- 
pus for Prifoners there, 28. 

ages, Mr. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 22 O@. 

'o be bailed: Witnefles againft him to. be examined by the 
Committee in Bucks, 27. 

-- Sir Edmund, 1642, a Committee to receive Informa- 
tions offered by him, 21 Feb. 

Stage Plays, 1642, Lords to be moved to join in Order for 
putting them down; Member to prepare the Order, 31 Aug. 

Order fent to Lords, 2 Sept. 

Staines, 1642, Order for re-delivering a Waggon, &c. ftayed 
there, 7 Nov. 

Stamford, Earl of, 1641, Meflage to be fent to Lords, defiring 
he may be appointed Governor of Jerfey,6 May. Motion 
in his behalf ; Order thereupon, 18 Aug.-——Nominated Lord 
Lieutenant of Leicefterfhire, 10 Feb. 

1642, a Committee to confider of the proclaiming him a 
Traitor, 5 July. Declaration concerning it fent to Lords, 7. 
Agreed to b
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anley, Captain, 1641, approved to be Captain in the Navy, 
10 Mar. 

1642, his Letter, with Articles inclofed ; a Committee to 
confider of Ordinance for Indemnity of him, and others, and of 
a Reward for their good Services, and to write to him in mean 
time, 30 Aug.——His Letter to the Holland Vice Admiral, 
and Warrants to the Captain of Cowes Caftle, and Mayor of 
Newport for reftraining Provifions to be carried on board the 
Holland Fleet, read ; a Committee to prepare Letter to with- 
draw his Warrants—Ambaflador to the States to be acquainted 
with the Proceedings of Houfe upon this Accident, 11 Feb. 

Swann, Captain, 1642, to be thanked for his good Service in 
feizing the Maria Frigate, 15 Aug. 

Swearers, 1641, a Committee to preparea Declaration for exe- 
cuting the Laws againft them, Drunkards, and Sabbath-Break- 
ers, 17 Dec. Ordinance reported, 24. 

-——— 1641, Bill againft Sabbath Breakers, common Swearers, 
and Drunkards, ordered, 24 Dee. 

Switzerland, 1642, Letter from the Protefiant Cantons; Con- 
— to be defired thereupon; Managers appointed, 10 

ov. 

Sydenham, Sir Ralph, 1642, veted incapable of fitting during 
this Parliament, 29 Sept.——To be bailed, 19 O&: Order 
for Bail,to furrender him, 21. 

— Lady, 1642, to have Warrant to go to Oxford, 10 

an. 

Sykes, Nath. Vide Maffam. 

sal Thomas, 1641, Petition referred to a Committee, 5 

ug. 














Matthew, 1641. Vide Privileges. 

Edward, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 30 July. 

His Petition referred to the Committee for fcandalous 
Minifters, 8 Aug-—Order for bailing him, 18. 

Syms, Tho. 1642, to be removed to Norwich, and kept clofe 
Prifoner till his Removal, 13 Mar. 

Symfon, Rich. 1642, to be removed to Norwich, and kept clofe 
Prifoner till his Removal, 13 Mar. 


16° Car. I. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


TE MP LE, Sir Peter. Vide Privileges. 
Thurland, Mr. declared quly elected, and called into the 
Houfe, 20 Apr. 

Ting, Jo. Petition read, and referred to the Committee for 
Grievances, 1 May. 

Tooley, Mr. Vide Privileges. 

Tracye, Sir Humphrey, to be fent for as a Delinquent, on ac- 
count of Mifdemeanors at.an Election, 17 Apr. Motion for 
his Attendance on the Committee of Privileges; Anfwer 
thereto, 18. Member undertakes for his Appearance; War- 
rant refpited, 21. 








Trade, a fele& Committee to receive and examine all Petitions 


relating thereto, 30 Apr.——Grand Committee appointed, 1 
May. 

Trevanion, Mr. declared duly elected, and called into the Houfe, 
zo Apr. 


16° 


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INDEX @o the Stconp VoLume. 


16°17° & 18° Car. I. Parl. 5. A. 1640, 
1641, & 1642. 


TABo R, Mr. 1641. Vide Privileges. 

Taff, Colonel, 1641, a Committee to examine him, and 
feize his Papers, 24 Dec. Member to examine him imme- 
diately, 7 Leb. 

Lord Vifcount, 1642, Lord Admiral to be moved to 
ftop the Ports againfi him, 20 June—Order for ftopping Ports 
in Scotland ; Speaker to iffue Warrant for apprehending him, 

Tagg, Ralph, 1641. Vide Privileges. 

Lalbot, Sherrington, 1642, Information given of his Forward- 
nefs in publifhing his Majetiy’s Declaration ; to be fummoned 
to attend, 6 June. Vide Privileges. 

Tamworth, 1641, new Writ, 9 Dec. 

Yanners, 1641, Petition referred to the Committee for Calves 
Skins, 22 July. Vide Leather. 

Lartara, Raphael, 1641, to be forthwith difcharged from his 
Refiraint, 10 Nov. 

Tate, Mr. 1640, to fit till his Ele@ion is avoided, 6 Jan. 

— 1641, to be required to attend forthwith, 19 Aug. 

Laverner, Robert, 1642, to be fent for in Cuftody, 9 July. 

Rich. 1642, to have Warrant to go to Oxford, and re- 
turn, 23 Feb. 

Lavijiock, 1641, new Writ, 24 May. 

Launton, 1642, Order for Indemnity of Volunteers to be pre- 
pared, 20 Aug. Petition of Mayor, &c. Steward of the 
Court Leet to attend, 5 Sept. Order about fortifying the 
Town, 7 Nov. Agreed to by Lords, 11. Ordinance for 
muttering and arraying Soldiers read, and agreed to, 10 Dec. 

Order for mulcting fuch as refufe 
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ar. Vide Fens. 

Thorntone, Mr. 1642, Letter from the Committee at Hull, con- 
cerning his Practice againft the Safety of the Town; Order 
for bringing bim up in Cuftody ; Commitlioners of the Trea- 
fury to be moved to appoint a trufty Perfon in his ftead, 22 
June. 


— Captain, 1640, Order for Payment of his Arrears, 6 


ec. 

Thorold, Sir Robt. 1642, a Committee to examine him in Prifon 
upon Letters fufpected to come to him, 26 Jan. 

Thoroughgood, Wm. 1642, committed to the Gatehoufe, 30 
Sept. 

Thorpe, 1640, Petition on behalf of the Inhabitants read, and 
avowed; Prefton to be fent for as a Delinquent, 22 Dec. 
Vide Prefion. 

Thorpe, Captain, 1642, to have Warrant to tranfport himfelf and 
Two Servants to France, 22 Apr. 

— Robert, 1642, Petition to be fent to Lords; the Com- 
mittee for the Navy to take Order for fatisfying his Dues, 12 
July. 

Thory, Tho. 1642, his Office in the Cuftoms to be fequeftered, 
28 Nov. 

Thrift, Lyonell, 1642, to be difcharged, 5 Jan. 

Thrifcrofjje, Mr. 1642, to be fent for to attend the Committee 
for Examinations, 13 Feb. 

Throckmorton, Sir Baynham, 1641, Order touching the Delivery 
of Cord-wood to him from Deane Foreft, 21 Mar. = 

Sir Clement, 1642, his Letter referred to a Committee, 
15 Dec. 

Throppe, Thomas, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 12 

Aug. 


Thynie, 





IN DEX ¢o the SEconp VoLuME. 


Thynne, Sit James, 1641. Vide Privileges. 
Sir H. Fred.*1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 28 
Nov. 





Tichburne, Sir Hen. 1642, Earl of Ormond to be defired, in a 


Letter, to thank him for his Services, 2 Apr. 
Benjamin, 1642, Petition to have Warrant to tranfport 
himfelf, &c. to Leyden, 6 Sept. 

Tiffany. Vide Suppiy- 

Tillage, 1640, Bill concerning the Converfion thereof into Paf- 
ture read ; not to be read a Second time but in a full Houfe, 
7 Nov.——Committed, 25 Feb. Order for Meeting of 
the Committee; Committees added, 11 Mar. 

Tillot, Leonard, 1642, Petition referred to the Committee for 
Grievances prefented by the Common Council, 28 Mar. Vide 
London. 

Tilfley, Mr. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 21 Sept. 

Tiffen, Mr. Marfhal of the Admiralty Court at Chefter, 1642, 

ord Admiral to be acquainted with Mifdemeanours commit- 
ted by him, 24 May. 

Timber, 1641, none to be cut down by Bifhops, Deans and 
Chapters, or Prebends, 16 July. 

Tin-Farmers, 1642, to attend the Committee for Defence of 
the Kingdom ; Order for paying Money due upon the Farm, 
9 Jan.—To attend Houfe, 13. Examined; Order for Pay- 
ment of Rent due from them, 14.~ For an Acquittance to 
them ; a Com:nittee to prepare Ordinance to bear them harm- 
lefs; two examined, and committed, 16.—Order for Pay- 
ment ot Part of the Money feized, 17. Petition of Farm- 
ers for Pre-emption thereof read, and referred to the Com- 
mittee for Difpatches, 6 Feb. 

Tin-workers. Vide Stannary Coutts. 

Ting, Jo. and Tho. Pocle, 1640, Petition referred to the Com- 
mittee concerning rigorous levying of Ship-money, 7 Jan. 
Tirrell, George, 1642, Order for delivering his Horie to be em- 

ployed in the Service of the Commonwealth, 7 Nev. 

Tirringham, Mr. 1642, to be fecured till he is able to come up, 
25 Oct. Order for his paying 20/, toa Perfon wounded in ap- 

rehending him; his Horfes to be fold; Order for continuing 
Ses in Serjeant’s Cuftody, 27. High Sheriff to pay the Mo- 
ney out of the Overplus, 28. 

Tifon, Captain, 1642, committed to Newgate, 26 Dec. 

Titcombe, Mich. 1640, to be fent for as a Delinquent, to an- 
fwer Mifdemeanors in levying Ship-money, 7 Jan. 

Tobacco, 1640, Patent for the Monopoly thereof to be brought in; 
Referees to attend the Committee for Grievances, 21 Nov. 
1641, Report from the Committee for Cuftomers to be 
confidered; Order for Re-delivery of Tobacco brought by 
Force into any Port, and detained, 3 Aug—RKefolution touch- 
ing the Rate to be paid for what is not brought in by Force, 

& 13. 

3 1642, Ordinance concerning difpofing of Tobacco in 

Treland, 29 Oét. 

Spanith, 1641. Vide Supply. 

1641, Bill concerning Payment of Cuftoms for Englifh 

Tobaccoes imported before 25th May 1641, read, 19 Aug. 

Read Second time; Queftions for Commitment and lnagrofl- 

ment, feverally Neg; Bill rejected, 27. 

1642, another Bill to the fame Purport, read twice, and 
committed, *4 Apr. 

Toleration, 1641, a Committee to prepare Heads for Declaration 
againft Toleration to the Popifh Religion; Lords to be moved 
at a Conference to join therein, 8 Dec. Heads reported; 
Conference to be defired with Lords thereupon; a Committee 
to prepare additional Head concerning the Queen ; Head re- 

orted, and agreed to, 13. 

Toll, Mr. 1640. Vide Privileges. 

Toller, Geo. 1642, to be forthwith fummoned as a Witnefs, 14 
Apr. 

Tombes, Mr. 1642, Order for his Difcharge, 23 Jan. 

Tomkyns, Nathanael, Clerk of the Queen's Clofet, 1641, to be 
fummoned to appear; Examination referred to a Committee, 
29 Jan. 

: Mr. 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 12 Nov. 

— Mr. 1642, Order for continuing him in Cuftody, 6 
Oét. 
































Tompfon, Jo. 1642, Order to ftay landing Goods belonging to 
him, and for his Attendance on the Committee for the Navy, 
10 Aug. 

Tomfon, Dr. 1640, Petition read, and referred to a Committee, 
3 Dec. Vide Fens. 

——— 1641, another Petition touching the Tythes of Sutton 
Marfh ; Order thereupon, 15 June. Exchequer to hear 
his Caufes, notwithftanding former Order of Reftraint, 27 
Jan.—Sequettration to be fuperfeded, and Profits reftored 
to him, 14 Feb. : 

Tonage and Poundage, 1640. Vide Supply—A Committee to 
examine the Proceedings in the Exchequer thereupon fince 
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——— Exuperius, 1642, Judges to be required to ftay Pro- 
ceedings concerning the Bailing or Delivery of him, 4 Feb. 
To ftand committed by Houle; to be apprehended by Ser- 
jeant, and committed to Southwark Compter, 27. 

-—- Chriftopher, and Brother, 1642, Order for their Com- 
mitment to Teen Houfe, and employing their Horfes for 
the Service of the Commonwealth, g Mar. 

Turney, Captain Humphrey, 1642, to be fent for as a Delin- 
quent, 15 Aug. ——2 Sept. Examination referred to the 
Committee for Informations, 20. Report ; Order for his 
Difcharge, 26. 

Tutty, Wm. 1642, Petition read, 30 July. Vide Duck. 

Twickenham, 1642, Order from Lords concerning training the 
Inhabitants, referred to a Committee, 30 Sept. 

Twifden, Sir Roger, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 28 
Mar.——Examined touching the Kentifh Petition, 1 Apr. 
His Petition read, and referred to the Committee for the Pe- 
tition, 8. Report; Order for bailing him; his Security ac- 
cepted, 9. Has Leave to go into Kent; Bail to be re- 
newed ; new Bond to be taken, 12 May.——Order for their 
furrendering him, 2 Aug. For remitting him to Serjeant’s 
Cuftody; his Bail difcharged ; Bonds to be delivered to them, 
5. His Petition ; Queftion that he have Leave to go into the 
Country, Neg. 10. Order for removing him out of Ser- 
jeant’s Cuftody, 24. His Petition ; Order for bailing him, 
8 Sept. . Bail approved, 10. 

Tyre, Captain Andrew, 1642, to be removed to Colchefier; a 
Committee to prepare Letter to Mayor for keeping him clofe 
Prifoner, 13 Mar. 2 

Tyringham, Lady Margaret, 1642, Petition read, and referred 
to a Committee, 9 July. . 

T fon, Edward, 1642, to have Licence to tranfport Malt and 

eer to Dublin, 7 Apr. é 

Tythes, 1641, Bill to prevent vexatious Suits concerning them, 

read, 9 July. 
































16° Car. I. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


pA NLOOE, Sir Peter, Petition read, and referred to the 
Committee for Courts of Juftice, 1 May. 

Vaffal, Mr. moves that his Grievance of his Goods diftrained 
by Order of Council may be One Inducement for aConference 
with Lords concerning the Property of Goods; Anfwer there-: 
to, 24 Apr. Order for his Attendance on the Committee 
appointed to prepare Direétions for that Conference, 29. 

ide Goods, Property of. 


Vou. II. 


16°, 17°, & 18° €ar. 1. Parl. 5. A. 1640, 
1641, & 1642. 


VV: ALENTINE, Mr. 1640, his EleGion to ftand good, and 
not be further queftioned, 6 Jan. 

Mr. 1642, defired to preach, 30 Nov. 
and to print his Sermon, 28 Dec. 

Valiquerville, Mr. 1642, to have Warrant to tranfport himfelf 
to Holland, 12 Nov. 

Valkenbergh, Lewis Van, 1641, Bill for naturalizing him read, 

3 Aug. Party takes Oaths, 18. 

Varie, Nir. 1640, to fit till his Eleétion is decided, 6 Jan. 

—— 1642, voted incapable of fitting, 16 Jan. 

——--- Sir Henry, 1641, his Letter to Speaker read, 4 Nov. 

A Committee to confider of a Method for continuing him 

. Treafurer of the Navy, 18 Dec. Report, 28.——The Com- 
mittee on Tonage and Poundage Bill to infert a Claufe for 
making him one of the Treafurers, 18 Mar. 

1642, to have Liberty to tranfport Eight Horfes into 

Holland, 5 Apr. Order enlarged, 15. Appointed Trea- 

furer of the Navy—Ordinance to be prepared for that Pur- 

pofe—Refolution about the Allowance to him, and Under- 

officers, 5 Aug. Ordinance agreed to by Lords, 8. 

Geo. 1642, Order for Payment of his Arrears, 6 








Thanked, 

















July. 

Vi nae Sir Ralph, 1642, to have Warrant to tranfport One 
Horfe to Holland, 24 May. 

Vaffal, Mr. 1640, Complaint about the Seizure of his Goods, 
referred toa Committee, 2 Dec. Order about re-delivering 
them, 2 Feb. 

1641, Bufinefs concerning him referred to Mr. Cham- 
bers’s Committee, 1 July——Warrant from the Council 
Board for feizing his Ship to be confidered, 13 Aug. 

Vavafor, Sir Charles, 1641, to raife 1,000 Men for Muntter, 28 
Dec. Order for his having 500, of thofe intended to go un- 
der the Prefident of Munfter
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 Letter read, 23 Aug.—Another read; Mem- 

ber to prepare an Anfwer ; Inftructions for that Purpofe, 25. 

Another read, 6 Sept. His Account to be audited, 

and prefented to the Committee for Poll-money, 29 Nov. 

1642, Petition referred to him, 16 June.——Order for 

paying him Money due upon Arrear to feveral Officers, 25.— 

For making him an Allowance of a Sum miftaken by Sir Jo. 

Hotham, 27. —-A Committee to perufe his Lift of Officers 

in Arrear, 30 July. Order for his Attendance to make up 

his Account, 17 Aug. 












































16° Car. I. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 


W ALES, Lord Prefident of, Bill to exempt the Four 
Counties from his Jurifdiétion, to be read, 29 Apr. 
Read, 30. 

Wendover, new Writ, 18 Apr. 

Wharton, Mr. Vide Privileges. 

White, Daniel, to prefer a new Petition, the former being 
miflaid, 24 Apr. 

Winchelfey, Election ; Petition miflaid, another to be prefented, 
24 Apr. 

Wool, Bill againft Exportation thereof, and of Wool Fells, 
Mortlings, Shorlings, Yarn made of Wool, Fuller’s Earth, 
and Fulling Clay, to be read, 25 Apr. Read, 28. 

Wray, Sir Jo. declared duly elected, 24 Apr. 

Writs, new, viz. Lewis, Shaftefbury, Mynhead, Queenborough, 
Bodmin, Newton, Eaft Grinftead, and Aylefbury, 16 Apr. 
Eaftlow, Newport, and Reading, 17. Wendover, 18. 
Bramber, 23. And Arundel, 24. 


16°, 17°, & 18° Car. I. Parl. 5. A. 1640, 
1641, & 1642. 


WADDESDEN, 1640, Complaint of a Tax laid for main- 

taining an Organ and Organift, 1 Feb. Several Perfons to 

be fummoned to attend, 1 & 13.——Matter referred to a 
Committee, 6 Mar. 

Waddon, Mr. 1641, his Houfe to be fearched for Arms, 14 


Feb. , 
1042, 














INDEX 1 the S—Econpv VotumeE. 


1642, declares he has brought in 200 Ounces of Plate, 
16 Feb. 

Waddfworth, 1641, to bring in the Names of Priefts he had ap- 
prehended ; a Committee to examine him concerning Two, 
15 Nov. . 

1642, to be fummoned to attend, 17 Sept. 

Wadham College, Oxon, 1640, Grievances thereof referred to 
the Committee for Emanuel College, 17 Dec. 

Wadland, Tho. 1641, to be required to attend, 1 Dec. Exa- 
mined ; to prefent his Narrative in Writing, 4. 


Wadfworth, James, 1641, to be forthwith fent for, 3 May.—A 








Committee to examine him, 4. Vide Suckling. _ 

Wagner, Mr. 1640, Motion for referring his Petition to the 
Committee for Mr. Leighton’s Petition, 10 Nov. 

wpe Baldwyn, 1641, approved to be Captain in the Navy, 
10 Mar. 

1642, Meflage from Lords, acquainting Houfe they had 
fent for him, and he was there; Meffenger difmiffed without 
Anfwer ; a Committee to prepare Interrogatories; Meflage to 
be fent to Lords, defiring he may be examined upon Oath, in 
the Prefence of fome Members of both Houfes, 25 Mar, 
To be examined before a certain Day, or difcharged, 2 Apr. 
To be difcharged unlefs examined this Night, 9.—To be fent 
tor as a Delinquent, for refufing to come to Earl of Warwick, 
or deliver up his Ship; Lords Concurrence fignified, 4 July. 
Meffage from Lords, defiring Houfe, if they intend an Im- 
aspange againft him, to haften it; the Committee for the 

avy to confider the Faét, 23. Another Meflage concerning 
him; Anfwer thereto, 28. 

Walch, Sonn, 1641, to withdraw his Petition, 12 July. ——Pe- 
tition recommended to the Parliament in Ireland, 5 Aug. 

Walcot, Rich. 1642, to be difcharged, 4 Nov. 

— ave, Sir Edw. 1642, to be fent for in Cuftody, 30 

an. 

Waldon, Saffron, 1642, Inhabitants to put themfelves in a Pofture 
of Defence, 7 Nov. 

Wales, 1640, a Committee to confider of the Jurifdiction of the 
Court for Marches, 23 Dec. Petition referred, 18 Feb. 
Committee revived; Order for Sitting, 20. 

——— 1641, Order for Meeting of the Committee, 27 Apr. 

19 May. 9 July.—Report ; Refolution that the Four 

Counties are not within the Jurifdiction of the Court, 14. 

Committee to ftand, 1 June. 

1641, Bill to exempt the Four Counties from the Jurif- 

diction thereof, read, 28 June. Committed, 209. Peti- 

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d, 26 Mar. 
Voted a Delinquent, 16 Aug. 

— Mr. 1642, committed to the Gatehoufe, 15 Sept. 
Petition referred to the Committee for Informations, 23. 

Windefore, Rob. 1642, Order for reftoring his Plate, 9 Jan. 

Windham, Mr. 1640, Report from the Committee for Mono- 
polifts touching him ; expelled, 21 Jan. 

— 1641, to be fent for as a Delinquent, upon a Report 
from the Committee for Soap, 30 O¢t. 

— Jo. 1642, Petition referred to the Committee 
feuce of the Kingdom, 23 Sept. 

— Sir Hugh, 1642, to be fummoned to attend, 23 Dec. 
Loan ef 2,0c0/. propounded to him; his Anfwer, 24. 

Windjor, 1640, Eleétion; Report touching it ; Right of Eleétion 
determined ; new Writ, 8 Dec. To be delivered to Sheriff, 
11. Old Sheriff, if not difcharged, to execute it, 12. 

1641, new Writ, 27 May. Petition of Burgefles, 
&e. referred to the Cominittee of Priviliges, 6 June. 
Order about preferving the Deer, and reprefling Tumults 
thereupon, 8 Sept. {nformation of Forces aflembled there, 

4Jan. Vide Kingston upon Thames. 

—-— 1642, Action againft the Mayor, &c. upon the Election 
to be ftayed, 28 June. Order about fending down Muf- 
quets, 16 Sept. ~About repairing the Cuuduil fleads, 2 
Feb. 

Lord, 1642, his Arms to be feized, and kept in fafe 
Cuftody, 2 Apr. Order for felling them, 28 May. 

Caftle, 1642, Care thereof recommended to the Com- 
mittee for Defence of the Kingdom, 17 O&t. Prifoners to 
be removed thither, 10 & 11 Jan. Money for conveying 
them, and ftrengthening the Place, ordered, 11. Beds, &c. 
allowed them at their own Charge ; a Committee to confider 
of a Difcharge to the Governor, as he has not received fo 
many as he was charged with, 16. Order requiring him to 
receive more, 2 Feb. Free Conference defired by Lords there- 
upon; Managers and Reporters appointed ; free Conference 
held, and reported, 4. 

Wines, French, Spanith, and fweet, 1641. Vide Supply. 

—_—_-— 1640, Patents concerning them to be brought to the 
Committee for Grievances, 11 Nov. Another Committee 
to confider of the new Impofis on them, 11 Feb. 

1641, Order for their Sitting, 15 & 19 May. Inftruc- 
tion to confider of a Method for fettling a Price on Wines, 
19. Report; Patent voted a Grievance — Impofitions on 
French and Spanifh Wines—Proclamation prohibiting Wine 
Coopers to tell Wines, feverally voted illegal—Vote to be 
fent to the Vintners Company and Lord Keeper, 26. Com- 
mittee joined to the Committee for the Patent, 29. 

- 1642, Report to be made, 8 Apr. Made; Refolutions 
for accepting the Compofitions of feveral Vintners ; Order 
for the Payment thereof ; ‘Time appointed for others to com- 
pound, 9. 

——— 1641, Importation of Wines and Sugars referred to a 
Committee, 20 Oct.—Petition of French Wine Merchants 
read, end referred to the Committee for Cuftomers, 21 Feb. 
—Another Committee to confider the Bufinefs of Wines, 30. 
Report, 22 Mar. 

1642, Petition of Merchants in the Out-Ports, referred 
to the Committee for the Tonage and Poundage Bill, 24 May. 
Vide Supply.° 

1642, Bill from Lords for preventing Abufes in Wines, 
11 May. 

Wingate, Captain, 1642, Confideration of his Releafe to be re- 
commended to Lord General, 10 Nov. OF Arrears due 
to him to be recommended, 20 Jan. 

-———— Mrs, 1642, Petition; Witnefs examined thereupon, 31 
Dee. 

Wingfield, Abel, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 18 Aug. 

Winne, Wm. 1642, to be fent for asa Delinquent, 27 Sept. “ 

Winjlon, Dr. 1642, to have Warrant to tranfport himfelf, &c. 
beyond Sea, 13 Sept. 

Winterton. Vide Dungeneffe. 

Winton, 1640, Petition of Mayor, &c. read, and referred to 
the Committee for the Star-chamber, 23 Feb. 

--——-— 1641, Parifhioners to chufe a Leéturer ; Minifter to ad- 
mit of him, 14 Feb, Infiructions to be prepared, 15 Aug. 


His 


for De- 


Information of a Victory over Lord Grandifon ; Mef- 
fenger to be rewarded ; public Thanks to be given in Churches 
in and about London, 16 Dec.—Copy of a Letter to Lord 
General, relating to the Service there, 17. 

—— Marquis of, 1640, Bill from Lords to enable him to 
make Leafes for 'Fwenty-one Years of divers Lands, 3 Mar. 
Read, 10. Committed, 13. Reported, 17. 

— 1641, pafled, 6 Apr. Sent to Lords, 
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2, his Cafe reported; Sequeftration of him 
from the Office of foreign Poft-mafter, and Proclamation for 
that Purpote voted illegal; to be reftored, 28 Mar. Voted 
a Delinquent, 16 Aug. 

Wyvell, Captain, 1642, to be fent for as a Delinquent, 26 Apr. 








16° Car. I. Parl. 4. A. 1640. 
y4 RN made of Wool. Vide Wools. 


‘ 


16°, 17° & 18° Car. I. Parl. 5. A. 1640, 
1641, & 1042. 


ARMOUTH, 1641, Order for apprehending fufpeced 
Perfons that land there, and for feizing their Letters, and 
fending them to Houfe, 21 Mar. 

——— 1042, Bailiffs to fecure great Saddles, &c. ftayed there ; 
to be thanked for their Service, 6 Apr. Order for delivering 
them, 21.—Houfe informed they had collected too/. upon 
the Act of Contribution, 2 May. Information from thence 
referred to the Committee for Newcafile, 23 June. Order for 
their Meeting, go. Order againft billeting Soldiers without 
Coutent of the Inhabitants, 14 July. Agreed to by Lords, 
with an Amendment—Order for putting the Militia in Exe- 
cution, 18, For fecuring the Town, read, and re-com- 
mitted ; reported from Re-commitment, and agreed to ; Lords 
Concurrence fignified—Member has Leave to go down to 
advance the Propofitions for Horfe, &c. 24 Aug. Order 
tor fending Money, &c. brought in thereupon, to London, 10 
Oct. Member to prepare Order concerning difpofing of 
Commanders ftayed there, 10 Nov. Order concerning 
fortitying the Town, 10 Dec.———Ordinance for better keeping 
the Watches read, and agreed to, 4 Feb. ‘ 

Yelverton, Sir Chriftopher, 1640, to forbear fitting till his 
Eleétion is determined, 12 Jan. 


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INDEX @o the SECOND VOLUME. 





Yeowarnd, Captain, 1640, to be fent for as a Delinquent, upon 


a Complaint againft him for levying Money by Mufqueteers, 
15 Dec. Matter referred to a Committee, 24. Order for 
bailing him, 20 Mar. 





Yohal, 1642. Vide Ireland. 
York County, 1640, Articles of Grievances from thence read, 


9 Nov. High Sheriff to be fummoned to attend, 14~— 
Complaint of unlawful levying Money for Carriage of Ship- 
timber and Stores referred to the Committee for Ship-timber, 
22 Dec. Petition of Inhabitants ; nothing done thereupon, 
22 Mar. 
1641, Petition of Clothiers referred to the Committee 
for the Wool Bill, 7 July. Petition of Inhabitants of the 
North and Weft Ridings concerning Billet-money due, g Dec. 
——Letter of Juftices, and their Refolutions for the Safety of 
the County, read ; Thanks thereupon; Difpofal of a Maga- 
zine referred to them ; Meflage to Lords concerning their 
prehenfions, 1 Feb.—Earl of Effex nominated Lord Lieute- 
nant, 11.—Letter from Sheriff read ; a Committee to prepare 
Anfwer, and confer with Lord Chamberlain about the Militia 
— Petition of Gentleman read ; Speaker’s Anfwer to the Per- 
fon who preferred it, 15. Information of an Endeavour to 
poffefs the County that the Petition was ill-received ; a Com- 
mittee to prepare a Letter to fatisfy them of the Well-accept- 
ance thereof, 15 Mar. Letter reporied ; to be fair written, 
figned by Speaker, and fent; Order touching Satisfaction to 
the Mefienger, 16. Petition of Farmers ; Speaker’s An- 
fwer to the Perfon who preferred it, 10 Mar.—Deputy Lieu- 
tenants approved ; others to be recommended, 17. 
1642, Letters from High Sheriff referred to the Com- 
mittee for the Safety of Hull, 26 Mar. Petition of the 
County to the King, and his Anfwer, read; Petition fent to 
Lords, with Defire to expedite the Commiffions to Colonels 
and Captains of the Militia—a Committee to prepare Anfwer 
to the Sheriff’: Lett, ++ Apr Anifwor reported ; read ; agreed 
to; to be fair written, and figned by Speaker; Lords Concur- 
rence to be defired, 12. Copy of a Petition of Knights, 
&e. to the King, read ; to be read at a Conference ; Conference 
defired with Lords touching Informations from thence agreed 
to; Managers appointed ; Conference held, and reported; Re- 
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n Kent, 25 & 27 July. Examined and committed 
to Newgate, 28. 

Farnham Cafile, 1643, the Committee for Safety to confider how 
the Garifon may be maintained, 1 Mar. The Committee of 
both Kingdoms to confider of it, 7. 

—— 1644, Gentlemen of Surrey to be heard in Anfwer to 
a Petition concerning it, 24 Sept——Security thereof recom- 
mended to the Committee of both Kingdoms, 18 O¢t.—Catfile 
to be made a Magazine for the Armies, 21 Governor’s 
Letter concerning the Advance of the Enemy’s Forces to 
Odium, read, 23 Nov. 

Farrar, Colonel, 1643, his Letter referred to the Committee for 
Safety, 30 Dec. 

16044, to be fent up to anfwer Informations againft him, 
2 May. Ordered into Cuftody, 17. Bufinefs referred to the 
Committee for the Weft, 20——Bailing him referred, 13 
June. Order for difcharging him from his Employment, and 
from further Reftraint, 21 His Widow referred to a Com- 
mittee for Relief, 16 Nov. 

Farre, Colonel, 1643, ordered into Cuftody, and difcharged 
from being Deputy Lieutenant in Effex ; Lord General to be 
defired to difcharge him from his Command, 30 Sept. His 
Petition, and Letter on his behalf, read; Order for his Dif- 
charge from further Reftraint, 10 O&. 

Farritas, Captain, 1643, Petition referred to the Committee for 
Scots Reformadoes, 26 Jan. 

Farthing Tokens, 1643, Patent to be viewed by a Committee; 
Committee to examine the Profits thereupon, 31 Mar. 
Order for making Report, 14 Apr. Eft to make them, and 
give Account of the Profits to the Committee at Haberdafhers 
Hall, 17 Petition of Inhabitants of London, &c. referred 
to the Committee, 17 June.—Playter to deliver to the 
Committee Account of the Receipts and Iffues fince the Be- 
ginning of July, 21 Overfeers of the Accounts added, 21 
Apr.—g May A Comunittee to confider all Things con- 
ducing to the better Regulation of the Office, 16 Dec. 
Committees added, 13 & 27 Jan.—Order for Meeting of the 
Committee, 27. 

1644, Petition of Citizens concerning the Grievance of 
the Farthing Tokens referred, 3 Aug. Referred to the 
Committee for the Revenue, 7——-To a Committee of the 
whole Houfe; Citizens examined; Debate to be reprefented 
to the Common Council, with Defire they would review the 
whole Matter, 6.—Remedies offered by them to be confidered, 
10.—Refolution for raifing 5,000]. for Exchange of them, on 
the Eftates of Patentees, &c. to be communicated to the 
City, 14 Serjeant to take the Names of Women that come 
about this Bufinefs, 26 Oc. Certificate of the Committee 
concerning Eft and Haflard prefented, 14 Dec. 

Fuffet, Mr. 1643, to be removed to Winchefier Houfe, 12 
Sept. 

Fuf, 1643, a Committee to fee the Ordinance concerning it 
put in Execution, 29 Mar.——Preachers appointed, 1 & 26 















































































































































Apr.——31 May 28 June 26 July 30 Aug. 
27 Sept.m——25 O¢ct——29 Nov. 27 Dec. 31 Jan. 
28 Feb. 1643. 27 Mar.——24 Apr. 29 May 21 
June——31 July 28 Aug. 25 Sept. 30 O€t. 
27 Nov. 1644.——Thanked, 26 Apr. 31 May 28 
June-——26 July 30 Aug. 27 Sept. 25 Oct. 
29 Nov. 27 Dec. 31 Jan. 28 Feb. 1643. 27 
Mar. 24 Apr.—~-29 May 21 June——31 July 
28 Aug. 25, Sept. go Od. 27 Nov. 1644. 


Meffage from Lords, defiring a Fat upon the Beginning of the 
Atlembly ; Day, and Preachers appointed by them, agreed to, 
1 July. Another appointed in the room of One excufed, 
upon account of Indifpofition, 3. Preachers thanked, and to 
print their Sermons, 7.—Petition of Minifiers, defiring a Faft 
in and about London; Day and Preachers appointed ; Lords 
Concurrence fignified, 19. 

——-— 16044, Refolution for a Faft in Six Churches within the 
Lines, for a Bletling upon the Forces in the Weft; Affembly 
to appoint Churches and Preachers; Lords Concurrence fig- 
nified, g Aug. Colleétion to be made for diftreffed Perfons 
in the Weft, 10. Preachers thanked, and to print their Ser- 
mons, 14. Refolution for a Faft 
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on a Report 
from the Committee for abfent Members, 3 July To at- 
tend the Committee for fequeftering abfent Members Eftates, 
28 Sept. Order for reimburfing Monies he fhall advance, 

11 Nov. 

—— Thomas, 1643, to be exchanged for Mr. Upton, 28 Aug. 

Order for paying Money of his, in Mr. Ward’s Hands, to 

a Committee, 22 Jan. 

Captain, 1643, Examination of Pacquets returned from 

him, referred to the Committee for Examinations, 28 O@. 

Lieutenant Colonel, 1644, to be exchanged for Lieutenant 
Colonel Wright, 7 Aug. 

Leech, Mr. 1643. Vide Privileges. 

James, 1643, Petition referred to the Committee for Se- 

queftrations, 25 May. 

Francis, 1643, to have Warrant to go to Leyden, 26 May. 

Leedes, Sir John, 1643, his Letter, with Papers inclofed, read, 
and referred to the Committee for Safety, 2 June. 

Leeving, Mr. 1644, Proceedings againtt him, upon a Reference 
from a Committee to the Earl of Denbigh, to be itayed till 
further Order, 11 Apr. 

Leger, Mr. St. Vide Bole/er. 

Leicejier, Town, 1643, the Committee for Safety to fend down 
Ordnance, &c. 15 Apr. Committees added, 29 June 
4 Sept.——Letter defiring Horfe Arms, referred to the Com- 
mittee for Safety, 19 Order for fequettering the Mafter- 
fhip of the Hofpital, 8 Jan. Chancellor of the Duchy to 
be detired to beftow it upon Mr. Gray, 6 Mar. Letters 
relating a Victory over the Enemy at Hinckley, 11—Another 
Letter, relating the Pailages of a Skirmifh with the Enemy at 
Coote’s Bridge, &c. 23. Vide Bingley and Hartopp. 

1644, Letter, Relation, and Examinations, concerning 
Forces fent againft the Enemy at Loughborough, referred to 
a Committee, 4 Apr.—Order for fequetiering the Government 
of the Hofpital, 11 Governor's Letter concerning the 
Mareh of the Newcafile Forces towards the Town, 13 May 

Committees Letter, and Letter inclofed, relating the 
taking 600 Horfe and 400 Foot, 31 O&t. } 

——— County, 1643, High Shenff appointed, 30 Dec.—Pe- 
tition of the Committee, and Paper of Grievances annexed, 
referred to a Committee, 20 Jan. Letter concerning Mi- 
nifters refufing to take the Covenant; Order for fequettering 
their Eftates, and bringing them up in fate Cuftody, 11 Mar. 

1644, Committees Letter reterred to the Commiltee of 
beth Kingdoms, 20 Apr. Another concerning their Suf- 
ferings under the Soldiery read; Member to prepare Anfwer, 
aud Ordinance for raifing Forces tor Pretervation of the 

N County, 

































































County, 9 May. Ordinance read twice, and committed, 27 

Order for adding a Word thereto, 6 June. Ordinance 
reported, agreed to, and to be fair written, 15. Sent to Lords, 
21 Returned, with Amendments; Amendments agreed to, 
10 July No Monies or Horfes to be affefled or levied but 
by Order of the Committee, 27 May Petition of Inhabit- 
ants read ; original Names of the Subicribers prefented ; a Com- 
mittee to confider of compofiug the Differences in the County, 
4 Sept. Order for their Meeting, 11 Petition of Gentle- 
men read, and referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms, 
6 Nov. To another Committee, 21. 

Earl of, 1643, Meflage from Lords, concerning the 
feizing his Horfes, 12 June. 

——- 1644, his Letter to Lord General, defiring a Pafs to 
Briftol, read, 6 July. 

Leigh, Captain, 1643, Order for his paying to the Treafurers at 
Guildhall] Monies taken from Lord Tenham, 22 Apr. For 
paying it to the Treafurer at Wars, 8 May. 

1644, his Letter of Intelligence to the Enemy intercept- 

ed; Order againft exchanging him, 17 Apr. 

Sir John, 1643, to be fummoned to attend, 10 June. 

Thomas, 1643, to be exchanged for Lieutenant Garrett, 
19 Sept. 

Sir Francis, 1644, his Compofition, with the Reafon 
thereof, reported; Refolutions thereupon; the Committee to 
agree with him according to them, 27 July His Petition 
referred to the Committee at Haberdafhers Hall, 16 O&. 

Leighton, Colonel, 1644, Petition referred to the Committee for 
Eftablifhment of Lord General’s Ar
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 15 Apr—Order for taking off his 
Reftraint ; Lords Concurrence to be defired, 20 June. 

Bennett, Humphrey, 1645, to have Pafs to go beyond Sea, 
6 Dec. 

Thomas, 1646, his Fine accepted, 9 July. 

Colonel, 1646, Order for fending his Leases to Ire- 
land, 25 Aug. 

Bennett, Vinchurch, 1645, Ordinance from Lords for Aug- 
mentation of the Benefice, 2 Aug. 

Bent, Jofeph, 1646, his Fine accepted ; Ordinance for pardon- 
ing his Delinquency read, and pafled, 28 May Sent to 
Lords, 21 Nov. 

Bentall, Laurence, 1646, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency read, and pafled, 6 Aug.——Sent to 
Lords, 27 Oxt. 

Berber, William, 1646, to have Pafs to return into his own 
Country, 20 Apr. 

Berealjion, 1645, new Writ, 17 Feb. 

Beresford, Captain Michael, 1645, Petition referred to a Com- 
mittee, 16 Apr. 

Berkley, Colonel Alexander, 1645, Order for paying Part of his 
Arrears, 3 Apr. Agreed to by Lords, 4——For beftowing 
502. upon him, 6 June. 

Lucretia, 1645, Petition from Lords read; nothing 
oe thereupon, 8 Sept. They put Houfe in mind of it, 
16. 

Berkley Caftle, 1645, Letter concerning the Proceedings againft 
it; Order for a Reward to the Meflenger, 25 Sept. Re- 
port concerning the Appointment of a Governor, communi- 
cated by Lords, read, 4 Oct. They put Houfe in mind there- 
of, 8 & 16. Letter concerning it read ; Governor appointed, 
16 Meffage from Lords, defiring a Commiffion for him, 
3 Nov. 

1646, Order for flighting the Garifon, and difbanding or 
reducing the Forces, 28 July. 

Berks, 1644, additional Committees, agreed to by Lords, 15 Jan. 
—Petition of Gentlemen read, and referred to a Committee 
~—Lord General to be informed of the Violences committed 
by the Soldiers, 31. 

—~— 1645, Account of Horfe and Foot lying in the County 
upon free Quarters, ordered, g Apr. Petition of Inhabit- 
ants of the Firft Divifion read, and referred to a Committee ; 
Power given them to confider what Garifons are fit to be 
flizhted, and the Grievances of free Quarters, 12 Aug. 
Committee added, 12 Sept. Sent to Lords, 19. Names of 
Three Pertons fit to be Sheriffs, ordered, 8 Oét. High Sheritf 
appointed ; Order for Commiflion under the Great Seal, 14. 
Lords Concurrence fignified, 16. 

1646, High Sheriff appointed; Order for a Commiflion 
under the Great Seal, 1 Dec. Sent to Lords, 2. 

—— 1646, new Writ, 5 June. 

Berwick, 1645, Treaty for fettling the Garifon to be printed and 
publifhed, 13 Feb. 

1646, Letters and Informations from the Mayor, re- 
ferred to the Northern Committee, 30 Apr. Order for 
500/. for Repair of the Bridge, &c. 22 July. Letter from 
thence, with Reafons inélofed why Mr. Luke Ord fhould not 
continue Mayor. Vide Ord, Luke—Another appointed, 12 
Oct. 

Bet, Paul, 1645, Information of Blafphemies contained in his 
Books, and in his Anfwers to Interrogatories; Anfwers and 
Interrogatories read ; the Committee of plundered Minifters 
to examine the Truth of the Fa@ ; Ordertor his Commitment 
to the Gatehoufe; none to have Accefs to him, unlefs ap- 
pointed by the Committee ; Power _ them to fend for him 
from time to time, 10 June Order for making Report, 24 
Sept Report; Order for keeping him under clofe Re- 
firaint, and fuffering no Recourte to him—The Committce 
to prepare Ordinance for punifhing him with Death; Lawyers 
added thereto, 28 Jan. Order for them to attend the 
Committee, to be fet upon the Door, 9 Mar. 

—— 1646, Ordinance read twice—Divines to have Liberty to 
go to him, and endeavour to reclaim him ; the Committee 
impowered to giv¢ Perfons — vifithim ; Day appointed 
for bringing him to Bar to hear his Charge, and aniwer it, 28 

ar. Brought ; Queftions to be propounded to him read ; 
Member charges him with Blafphemies; his Anfwer; other 
Queftions propounded ; his particular Antwers thereto; Mem- 
bers of the Houfe and Affembly defired to confer with him ; 
remanded to Prifon, 4 Apr. Order for bringing bim to Bar, 
4, 15 & 18—For delivering him to Serjeant,
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45, Ordinance from Lords, appointing him 
Colonel of Horfe at Plymouth, 24 Dec. They put Houfe in 
mind thereof, 30. 

1646, his Petition from Lords read; nothing done there- 
upon, 30 June. 

Layton Buflard, 1645, Ordinance from Lords, for Relief of the 
Inhabitants, 25 July. 

Lazon, Martin de, 1645, declared Proprietor of Money and 
Goods in a Ship which arrived at Southampton in-1642; a 
Committee to prepare Ordinance to declare it, and grant him 
public Faith for the Value thereof, 9 Feb. 

1645, Property claimed by another Perfon ; Order for re- 
ferring them to the Law, 27 Mar. 

Lead. Vide Supply. 

Leake, John, 1645, appointed Purfer of a Frigate, 1 July. 

Lee, Sir Richard, 1644, to be fent up in fafe Cuftody, 27 Feb. 

Mr. 1645, to be exchanged for Colonel Alexander Rigby, 
May. 

: Hugh, 1645, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for par- 

doning his Delinquency, upon Payment thereof, ordered, 13 

Jan. 

1646, read, and paffed, 4 May. 

Leech, Mr. 1646. Vide Privileges. ; 
Leechlade, 1646, Order for flighting the Garifon, and difbanding 
or reducing the Forces, 28 July. ; 
Leeds, 1645, Petition of well-affected Inhabitants read, and re- 
ferred to the Committee for the Northern Affociation, 16 Feb. 

Vou, IV. 




















1645, new Writ, 30 Sept. 

Leigh, Lieutenant Colonel Uriah, 1644, to be exchanged for 
Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Rigby ; has Leave to repair to 
Oxon, to perfect the Exchange, 27 Feb. 

as 1646, Report concerning his Fine re-committed, 

11 July. 

Captain, 1646, referred to a Committee, 4 Aug. 

re John and Alice, 1646, to have Pafs to go beyond Sea, 11 
. ept. 

Edward, 1646, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for par- 

doning his Delinquency, read, and patled, 27 O&. Sent 
to Lords, 21 Nov. 

Leming, John, 1645, Ordinance for pardoning his Delinquency 
read, and pafled; Lords Concurrence to be defired, 15 Nov. 

Lempjfler, 1645, new Writ, 11 Sept. 

Lefley, Lieutenant General, 1645, his Letter, and Declaration 
for redrelling of Grievances in the Country, upon Complaint 
made to him, communicated by Lords, 28 Feb. Letters 
and Papers from and to him read, and referred to a Commit- 
tee, 20 Mar. 

—— Sir James, 1646, to be fent for by Serjeant, 30 Nov. 

Levant Company, 1646, Petition of Governor, &c. againft Sir 
Sackvile Crowe, 17 Sept. Vide Crowe, Sir Sackvile. 

Leven, General, 1645, Letters to him, with his Anfwers, read ; 
Order for thanking him—For beftowing a Jewel of 500 i. 
Value upon him, 25 July Other Letters to him, with his 
Anfwers, read; Order for thanking him—For fending the 
Jewel, 25 Oct. : 

1646, his Letter to the Swedifh Agent about Arms in the 
North, which he detires to have fold, read, 29 Sept. 

Lewins, Lucian, 1646, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for pars 
doning his Delinquency, read, and paffed, 18 Aug. Sent 
to Lords, 21 Nov. 

Lewis, Sir William, 1645, Certificate of his Accounts prefented ; 
his Demands allowed; Order for paying him 415 /. in Part of 
his Debt—A Committee to eontider of Means for difcharging 

M Engagements 





























IN DEX oo the Fourtu Vouvume. 





Engagements incurred by him for the State, 3 Apr. Order 
for allowing him 41. a Week for his prefent Subfiftence, 3 
June. 

—— 1646, difcharged, 20 Aug. 

John, 1645, Ordinance from Lords for his Relief, 12 

Feb. 

1646, read, and paffed, 7 May. 

Thomas, 1646, a Committee to confider of an Exchange 

to be propounded for him, 3 Apr. Order for repaying Moncy 

forced from him, 3 July. 

Claudius, 1640, « Committee to confider of a Debt due 
to him, for furnifhing Arms to the State, 22 Apr. Report ; 
Order for paying him, 30 June. 

Liggon, Colonel William, 1646, Previous Queftion for appoint- 
ing him Governor of Worcefter, Neg. 24 July. 

Lightfoot, Mr. 1646, defired to preach, 30 July. 
and to print his Sermon, 27 Aug. 

Lilbourne, John, 1644, the Committee of Examinations to 
examine him, concerning the writing and printing a Letter 
publifhed under his Name, and to enjoin the 
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chefter’s Narrative at a late Conference; Order for making 
Report, 30 Dec. 13 Jan. Report; Paper, containing 
the Matter of the Narrative, prefented ; Refolution that the 
Appointment of a Committee by Lords, to examine a Matter 
rh a Member is concerned, is a Breach of Privilege, 
notwithftanding their defiring the Houfe to concur therein ; 
Paper, and Second Part of Mir. Holles’s Report, referred to 
a Committee; Order for their fitting de die in diem— 
Licutenant General Cromwell’s and Sir William Waller’s Nar- 
rative, with a State of the Proofs upon Examination, re- 
ported—Earl of Manchefter’s Letter, defiring a Copy of the 
Charge, feverally read, and re-delivered, 20, His Letter to 
Speaker, to the fame Purport, read; nothing done thereupon, 
21. The Committee, at his Requeft, impowered to hear 
bim, and receive his Anfwer, 22——To declare to him 
the general Heads of the Charge, with the Particulars of 
Time and Place, and receive his Anfwer, 13 Feb. Lords 
Reatons in Writing, concerning an Ordinance, delivered at a 
Conference, 7 Jan. Read; Refolution that it isa Breach of 
Privilege; a Committee to prepare Reafons to be offered to 
them concerning it, 8. Reafons reported, read, and agreed 
to; Conference defired; agreed to; Managers appointed ; 
Conference held, and reported, 9. Another Conference de- 
tired by Lords; agreed to; Reporters appointed; Conference 
held, and reported, 11—Order for difcharging Hurleand Ward, 
committed upon Mr. Maynard’s Complaint, 10—Sir Edward 
Hungerford’s Complaint; Carey and Officer to be fent for 
by Serjeant, 17--A Committe to inquire into the Author 
znd Pablither of a Book bearing the Name of Simeon Afhe— 
Sir Thomas Walfingham’s Complaint ; Donne and Wathet to 
be fent for by Serjeant, 20—Sir Michael Livefay’s Complaint ; 











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FourTH VOLUME. 


Colonel Weldon to be fent for in fafe Cuftody, 22—Houfe 
takes Notice of a Pamphlet, intituled, “ A Word to the Wife,” 
difplaying great augmented Grievances, and heavy Preflures, 
of dangerous Confequence ; a Committee to enquire after the 
Author, Printer, and Divulger—Clapthorne’s Petition re- 
ferred to the Committee of Examinations; Perfons that ar- 
refted him to attend them, 27—Sir Charles Shirley and Mr. 
Devereux to be fent for in fafe Cufiody for fending a Chal- 
lenge to Lord Cramborne; Lord Cramborne to atlend; Or- 
der for their Difcharge, 28—A Committee to enquire after 
the Author, Printer, and Publifher, of a Pamphlet, intituled, 
“ Truths manifeft,”, 29——A Committee to enquire after 
the Author, Printer, and Publifher, of a Pamphiet, intituled, 
“ Another Word to the Wile,” 23 Feb. Mr. Campbell’s 
Petition read ; Order againft cutting Woods or Underwoods 
upon the Premifes mentioned therein—Againfi taking away 
thofe cut down; Lords to be acquainted therewith, 4 Mar. 
—The Committee of Examinations to inquire after the Au- 
thor, Printer, and Publifher, of a Pamphlet, intituled, “ The 
“ Jatt Warning to all the inhabitants of the City of London,” 
21. 








1645, Bifhop of Durham committed to the Tower, 
for refufing to anfwer Queftions propounded to him by Houfe ; 
a Committee to colleét the Sabftance of his Anfwer, touching 
chriftening a Child by the Book of Common Prayer, 8 Apr. 
His Petition read ; Order for difcharging bim upon his perfonal 
Security, 10 Sept. Report concerning the Pamphlet inti- 
tuled, “ Truths manifett;” feveral Paflages read; Order for 
burning it by the common Hangman; Buchanan ordered into 
Cuftody, and to be brought to Bar, 13 Apr. Order for lock- 
ing up his Doors, and fecuring his Kooks, &c. 15. Lords 
Concurrence to Order for burning the Book to be defired, 20 
Privilege granted to Petitioners, 14 May—Order for 
Stay of Proceds out of the Court of Wards againft Sir David 
Watkins, 1g——Sir Arthur Haffelrigg’s Relation, concerning 
the Earl of Stamford’s affaulting him, referred to the Commit- 
tee of Examinations; fame Relation to be made to them—~ 
Order enjoinin
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 into the Kingdom—Letter to be fent to the 
Scots Parliament ordered, 2o—Earl of Leven’s Letter, and 
Commiflioners Paper, communicated by Lords; Paper to be 
confidered, 23—Commiflioners to be defired to join in profe- 
cuting the War vigorously—Letter from Lords to be fent to 
the Lords in Scotland, read, and agreed to, with Amendment; 
Amendments agreed to by Lords, with Amendments; their 
Amendments agrecd to—Commiflioners Paper communicated 
by Lords, 24—A Committee to confider how the Army ma 

be direéted by Committees of both Houfes, 26—Earl of Le- 
ven’s Letter read ; City to be defired to haften the Payment 
of the 30,o00/. for the Army; Order for fending Monies 
that are ready—Refolution for defiring them to march towards 
Worcefter; Letter to the General, for that Purpofe, read 
and agreed to; Lords Concurrence fignified, 28 Letter 
from the General, and other Officers, read, 4 July—Com- 
miflioners of Parliament to the Parliament of Scotland appoint- 
ed; a Committee to prepare Inftruétions for them, 5. One 
exculed; another appointed in his room; Lords to be defired 
to name their Commiflioners ; Order for Meeting of the Com- 
mittee; Narrative of the State of the Garifons upon the Bor- 
ders of Scotland to be made ufe of by them, 7. Quorum ap- 
pointed, 10—Ordinance from Lords for nominazing Com- 
miffioners read, and agreed to—Minute of a Letter from 
them, to be fent before they go, read, and agreed to—Two 
Divines to be defired to attend them—Inttructions to be re- 
ported, 12. Reported, and pafled; returned from Lords, 
with Amendments; Amendments agreed to—Sixth Infiruc- 
tion to be confidered, 21 Conference defired with Lords 
thereupon; agreed to; Managers appointed; Conference 
held, 23. Another defired by them; agreed to; Reporters 
appointed; Conference held, and reported; Infiruction to 
be omitted—Order for Money for the Commiflioners and 
Divines, 16—Commiffioners to receive from the Committees 
of the North Informations concerning their Grievances, and 
acquaint the Parliament of Scotland therewith, 31 Paper 
from the General and Officers, another from the Commiffion- 
ers, read; Refolution for appointing Commiflioners to refide 
with the Army; a Committee to prepare Inftructions for 
them, 7 July. Lords to be defired to join herein, g. Their 
Concurrence fignified, 10. Scots Commiflioners Papers read ; 
Refolution thereupon ; Commiflioners appointed, 11. Lords 
appoint theirs; Earl of Stamford difagrecd to ; luftructions re~ 
ported; read, Claufe by Claufe, and pafled; Commiilioners 
impowered to nominate Perfons to appoint Commilffaries to 
mutter the Army—To help them with Recruits of Horfes— 
Order touching paying for them—Member to prepare Ordi« 
nance for appointing the Commiflioncrs, 12, Ordinance 

read, and pafied, 16. Returned from Lords, with Amend- 

ments; Amendments agreed to—Order for them to +] to 
their Charge—Lords infift upon the Choice of the rl of 

Stamford—Houfe infift upon their lafi Vote concerning him, 

18—Letter from the Commanders read; the Committee 

at Golfiiths Hall to be defired to bring in the Remainder 


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INDE X @o the Foturtu Vo.uume. 


of the Months Pay—Refolution for continuing the Ordinance 
for raifing Money for them Four Months longer—Member to 
prepare Ordinance for that Purpofe, and for adding other 
Counties, 9 July——Ordinance read, and pated; Lords 
Concurrence fignified, 15 Aug. The Committee of both 
Kingdoms to appoint Forces of the Counties where they are 
to ailift the Army—Another Committee to prepare Anfwer 
concerning raifing 1,000 Horfe, with Furniture, 9 July—A 
Committee to prepare Commiflion, authorizing Perfons to 
audit their Accounts of Monies and Provifions received in the 
Northern Counties fince their firft coming in, 18. Ordi- 
nance for a Commiflion under the Great Seal to them read, 
and paffed; Lords Concurrence to be defired, 28—-A Com- 
mittee to adjuft their Accounts in the North, concerning free 
Quar
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ting, ordered, 26——Read, and agreed to, 

19 Aug. Lords Concurrence fignified, 23 Letter to Sir 

Thomas Fairfax and Colonel Maffey, concerning them, read, 

and agreed to ; Speaker to fign fuch of thefe Letters as fhall be 

defired by tue Committee, 3 July—The Committee to write 

Letters concerning them, — Thomas Fairfax’s Letter, 

with their Petition, and his Anfwer, read ; Order for a Reward 

to the Meffenger, 9 ——Letter concerning them, with a Lift of 

Gentlemen, and Minifters called the Leaders, read ; Order for 

fending up fome Prifoners ; the General to fet others at Liberty, 

upon taking the Covenant, 8 Aug. The Committee to con- 
fider of the Leaders; Order for a Commiflion of Oyer and 

Terminer under the Great Seal for trying them, 19 ——The 

Committee to fend for thofe that have been bailed, and prevent 

the further Rifing of them—Order for a Commiffion to proper 

Perfons for fuppreffing the Infurreétion of feveral in Dorfet 

and Somerfet, and for punifhing the Offenders, 16 Mar.—— 

The Committee impowered to compound with any Two De- 

linquents they thall difcover, and have the Benefit thereof— 























Order for fending down Ammunition, 3 July—For difpo- 
fing of the Monies arifing from Bail-bonds for the Service of 
the Forces, 5—For a Colleétion within the Bills, for Perfons 
fled from thence, 14—Order appointing a Treafurer, to be 
printed and publifhed, 19—The Committee to give no Money 

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to private Perfons for a Month, 31 Impewered to com- 

pound with Prifoners and Delinquents, and to report their 

Fines, 13 Aug.—Order for fending down Powder, &c. to the 

Garifons, 19—Ordinance for continuing the Weekly Affeff- 

ments for Six Months, read, and paffed, 25. Agreed to by 

Lords, 26 Ordinance from Lords, for farther Power to 

the Cominittee to inquire into and redrefs Grievances, com- 

mitted, 2 Sept. Reported, and paffed, with Amendments, 

16. Ordinance returned to Lords, 19—Defires of the Com- 

mittee that fome fpeedy Courfe may be taken for Pretervation 

of the Weft, reported; Debate to be refumed, 26. Members 
fent down, 29 Order for 2,o00/. for the Forces, 18 Ot. 

General impowered to grant Commiflions to Gentlemen 

for raifing Men, and placing Governors in Garifons, &c.— 

The Committee to confider of fit Perfons to be fent down, 

and prepare Inftruétions for them, 26 Jan. Inftructions 

reported, read Article by Article, and agreed to, 14 Feb. 

Sent to Lords, 18. Returned, with Amendments, 23. One 

difagreed to; a Committee to aflign Reafons, 27— Conference 

defired with Lords concerning them, agreed to; Managers ap- 
pointed; Conference held, 16 Mar. Another defired by 

them, agreed to; Reporters appointed; Conference held, 18 

—— The Committee to difpofe of no Monies to private Per- 

fons without Order, 27 Feb. Letter from Launcefton ; 

Order for fending Ships to fecure the Coafts, 5 Mar.—Order 

for Six Weeks Pay for the Forces in the Field—The Commit- 

tee to confider what Garifons are fit to be kept up, and what 

Forces to be kept therein—To confider what Forces are fit 

to be kept in the Field, and how they may be maintained, 7 

—To contider of fome Way for borrowing 500/. towards 

fending down Divines and Gentlemen, 21. 

- 1646, another Cominittee to take care the Order is put 
in Execution, 30 Mar. A Committee to confider what 
Ammunition can be {pared out of the Garifons for the Irith 
Service, 25 Sept. Order for fending down Powder, &c. 
30 O&. A Committee to confider what well-affected Sol- 
diers have been cafhiered, and what ill-affeéted Perfons have 
been received in their Places, 30 Nov. 

Weftlydd, Mr. 1646, Ordinancc for pardoning his Delinquency, 
fent to Lords, 13 Ott. 

Wejfiminfter, 1645, Committees added to all the Committees; 
Lords Concurrence to be defired, 5 May 7 June Order
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der appointing a Governor, 19 Aug. 
Agreed to by Lords, 2 Committees Letter read, 1 Oct, 
——Other Letters from them read, 11 Nov. 














—— 1646, another Letter read, g Junc-——Petition of Lord 


Mayor, &c. read; Order for 5,000/. for Repair of the pub- 
lic Buildings, and Security of the City, 3 O&t. Letters 
concerning a Mutiny, read; Order for punifhing the Muti- 
neers by martial Law—Ordinance for 5,000 /. out of the 
Excife, for the Forces, read, and paffed; Lords Concurrence 
to be defired, 17 Nov. 

County, 1644, Petition of Inhabitants prefented from the 
Affembly; read, and not being regularly prefented, Houte 
proceeded no further, 9 Jan. 





——- 1645, Member to go down about reducing Lord Fairfax’s 


Horle, 2 May. Others injoined to go forthwith; Serjeant to 
acquaint them with the Order—Committees Letter read, 
and referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms—Order for 
fending Powder, &c. 5 July—Letter to the Committces to 
fend their Forces for the blocking up Newark, read, and 
agreed to—Their Letter; Commifficners going into Scotland 
to receive Informations from them and the Gentlemen of the 
Northern Aflociation, 31-——~~-Declaration that they have no 
Power to appoint Governors of Garifons, 19 Aug.—Ordi- 
nance for 10,000/. for the fupernumerary Vorces, read, and 
pulled, 20. Agreed to by Lords, 23—Geuneral Poynis’s Let- 
ter, relating his Inteutions to purfue the hing; Antwer read, 
and agreed to; Order for the Forces to march with him—For 
providing: 5,000 /, for them—Narrative of the Forces, and the 
probable Grounds of the Mutiny—Order for a Reward to the 
Meflenger --Committees Letter read ; Matter concerning the 
Matiny, the Confiitution of the Army, and the Election of 
Oliicers, referred to the Committee of the Northern Affocia- 
tion, 30——Order for the Forces to purfue the King where 
ever he marches, and for providing a Convoy for the Monies 
afligned them, 3 Sept———Committees Letter to General 
Leven, concerning the Grievances of the County, by Levies, 
and quartering bis Army, with his Antwer, feverally read, and 
to be prefented to Lords at a Conference—Another, defiring 
Allowance of Gool. taken up of the Sub-commiffioners of 
Excile, for Payment of their Porces, read, and agreed to; 
Ordinance for that purpofe ordered, 14 Oct. Read, and palled, 
24. Agreed to by Lords—T'he Committee to prefent the 
Names of Three fit Perfons to be Sheriffs, 25—Order for 
10,0004, for Payment of the Soldiers Arrears, 27 Order 
appointing High Sheriff, and for a Commiiiion under the 
Great Seal, 7 Nov. Agreed to by Lords, 12—Committees 
Letter read, 11—Letters concerning the Proceedings of divers 
Gentlemen for raifing War there, read, 11 Dee.—The Com- 
mittee of both Kingdoms to confider what Horfe are fit to be 
removed, and difpole of them to the beft Advantage, 1 Jan. 
—Petition of well-alfecied Perfons read, and referred to the 
Northern Commitiee, 26——-Petition of Clothiers read; the 
Committee to confider the Manner of procuring Hands to 
it, 16 Feb.—Propotition for farming the Excite of the County, 
read twice, and re-delivered, 28—-—Relolution that the Coin- 
mittees have done their Duty in receiving and reprefenting 
Complaints, 20 Mar. 








—-— 1646, the Committee of the Northern Affociation to con- 


fider of a fil Place for the County Gaol, in the room of the 
other, 30 Apr.———Letter concerning Oppreflions of the Scots 
Army, upon whom the Country People had rifen; [nforma- 
tion of divers other Injuries, 11 May. General Leven’s 
Order relating thereto read, 13——Several Letters read, and 
referred to a Committee, 1 June. Report, 6——Letier, Pe- 
tition, and Report, concerning the Neceliities of the Coaniry 
and the Burtheus they groan under, by reafon of the Armies ; 
Order for providing 5,000/. for the Forces, 4 July—Commit- 
tees Letter, concerning the Preflures upon the Country by 
the Scots Army, read, 6——Prelfentment and Remonfirance 
of the grand Inquefi, concerning the fad Cond
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g the Texts of Scripture, Agreed to by Lords, 1 July. Judges appointed ; a Committee 
7 Nec. Conteifion, with Lords Defire thereupon, to be to prepare Infiruétions for them, and confider of fome Courfe 
confidered, 20 Feb. to prevent Delinquent Lawyers from  practifing, 8. Lords 

~—--—— 1047, Alflembly to be defired to prefent the Texts of Concurrence fignified, 10. Inftructions to be confidered, 21 
Scripture, fo far as they have proceeded in them, 22 Apr. Order from Lords for pardoning Perfons reprieved in the 
Texts prefented ; 600 Copies to be printed, with the Texts Midland and Northern Circuits, agreed to, 7 Jan.——V otes 
ery for both Houfes and the Aflembly only; Affembly appointing Judges to go the Circuits, 1 —— ae — 

fer. V. sords, 


touching the Prefbyterial Government, read, 16 June—Com- 
mitted to a Committee of the whole Houfe, 21. Committee 
fits, 26——-Ordinance reported, and pafled; Lords Concur- 
rence to be defired, 5 Aug. ‘Title read, and agreed tu ; Or- 
dinance fent to Lords, 11——Order impowering the Claffes 
to give Inftitution; Ordinance for that Purpofe ordered, 
28 July. 

Churches, 1647, Ordinance concerning the Repairs thereof, and 
parochial Officers, to be read, 28 May 20 Ott. 16 Dec. 

Read twice, and pafled; Lords Concurrence to be 
defired, 1 Feb.——Ordinance from Lords to the fame Purport, 
read twice, and rejected, 16 Dec. They put Houfe in 
mind thereof, 31 Jan. 

Churchill, John, 1648, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency, read, and pafled ; Lords Concurrence 
































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Lords, with an Amendment, 3 Feb—Order from them for 

pardoning Perfons reprieved in the Oxford Circuit; agreed 

to, 15. 

: 1648, like Order agreed to, 5 June——Serjeant Wilde’s 
Narrative of his Brother Juftice’s Proceedings, and of the Af- 
fections of the People in the Weftern Circuit; Prefentment of 
the grand Inqueft reported ; Thanks thereupon; Prefentment 
referred to the Committee for public Grievances, 18 Apr. 
Commiffioners of the Great Seal to prefent Names of Judges to 
go the Circuits, 12 June. Names prefented ; Lords Concur- 
rence to be defired—Order for their ufual Salaries—for Inttruc- 
tions for them, 13—Order from Lords for pardoning Perfons 
reprieved in the Weftern and Midland Circuits ; agreed to, 17 
—-+-Order for adjourning the Affizes in the Northern Circuit, 
1 Aug. Agreed to by Lords, 2. Revoked, 25—Order for 
Judges to go the Circuits — except as excepted— 
Left to them to forbear any Place of Danger, 19 Aug. 

Cirencefler, 1646, Ele¢tion; Report to be read, 13 Jan— 
Read, 14. 

1647, Létter from thence, complaining of Free Quar- 
ter, read, aud referred to the Committee at Derby Houle, 
24 Feb. 

Civilians. Vide Wills. 

Clare-hall, Cambridge, 1647, Order for fettling 150/. per An- 
num upon the Matterthip, for ever, 31 Mar. 

Clarke, Sir Simon, 1648, his Fine accepted ; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency, read, and pafled ; Lords Concurrence 
to be defired, 26 Aug. 

Sir Henry, 1648, his Fine accepted ; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency, read, and pafled; Lords Concur- 
rence to be defired, 28 Aug. 

Clayton, Thomas, 1647, Order for paying him 50/. upon Ac- 
count, 18 Jan. 

Clerk, Serjeant, 1647, Report concerning his Proceedings at 
Lincoln Affizes, to be made, 30 Apr. 

Doétor William, 1647, Ordinance appointing him Judge of 
the Admiralty, 5 July. Returned from Lords with Amend- 
ments ; Amendments agreed to, 14—Ordinance from Lords 
for fupplying Defects in the former, read, and paffed, 23. 

Clerk of Toute, 1647, Perfon to be admitted to afiift him, 
31 July 16 Feb. 

“ao has Leave to be abfent, 25 July——Time inlarged, 
4 Aug. 

Clerke, Samuel, 1647, his Difburfements and Engagements for 
the Parliament, referred to the Committee of the Weft, 14 
Apr. Order for paying him 2,000/. upon Account, 3 July. 

Robert, 1647, appointed Captain of a Ship, 17 Mar. 

1648, his ftopping the Tranfportation of the Scots out 

of Ire
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tted ; 
the Committee to fend him to Litchfield to anfwer the Law for 
a wilful Murder, 26 Jan. 

Goodman, William, and Richard Hanfon, 1646, Ordinance for 
pardoning them returned from Lords, with Amendments ; 
Amendments agreed to, 1 Jan. 

Goodrich Catile, 1646, Order for difgarifoning and flighting it, 
1 Mar. D 

— 1647, for flighting the new Works, 19 July. 

Goodwyn, Robert, 1646, the Committee of Accounts to fiate 
his Accounts, 6 Jan. 

- 1647, Order appeinting him and Miles Corbett 
Regifter in Chanee-y, 2 Mar. 

——— Edward, 1646, Ordinance from Lords appointing 
him Water Bailiffand Keeper of the Prifon and Port of Dover, 
read, and pailed, 10 Feb. 

John, 1646, has Liberty to extend a Statute acknow- 

Jedged to him by Sir George Sandes, upon Lands, notwith- 

fianding the Lands are under Sequettration, 24 Mar. 

Ralph, 2647. Vide Privileges. 

Mr. delired to preach, 29 Sept. 22 Feb. 1647 
Thanked, and to print his Sermon, 29 Mar. 1648. 
Gorges, Captain John, 1646, appointed Commander in Chief of 

the Forces in Exmouth, 13 Mar. 

Goringe, Henry, 1647, his Fine accepted ; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency read, and paffed; Lords Concur- 
rence to be defired, 16 Sept. 

Lord, 1648, declared a Traytor, for raifing Forces in Kent 
and Effex; Lords Concurrence to be defired—Like Declara- 
tion from them, read, and agreed to; Order for printing and 

ublifhing it, 5 June Refolution for attainting him of 
ligh Treafon ; Ordinance for that Purpofe, ordered 31 Aug. 

Gojnold, Robert, 1647, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency, read, and pafled ; Lords Concurrence 
to be defired, 27 May. 

Gojje, Samuel, 1647, Petition; Order appointing him King’s 
Waiter at the Cuftom-houfe; Ordinance for that Purpofe, 
ordered, 8 Sept. Read, and pafled, 16. Agreed to by 
Lords, 17 Another Petition read, and referred to the 
Committee at Goldfmiths Hall—Particulars relating to the 
Abule of the Privilege of Peerage reterred to the Committee 
of Grievances; Earl of Warwick to be acquainted therewith, 
14 Mar. 

Gott, Mr. 1646. Vide Privileges. 

Gourdon, Mr. 1647, defired to preach, 30 Dee. 

—— 1648, defired to pray before Houfe, 25 Apr. Thanked, 
26. 

Granee, Thomas, 1648, to be fent for in fafe Cuftody, for 
being aétive in the Jate Infurrection in Kent ; Member to affift 
in fending him up; Examination referred to the Committee 
of the Navy, 19 June——Report; Power given them to bail 
him; the Committee of Kent to examine him, 3 Aug. 

Grant, Mt. Vide Afiley. 

—— Thomas, 1648, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency, read, and pafled ; Lords Concurrence 
to be defired, 3 July. 

G page ar 1646, Confideration of the Block-houfe, referred 
to the Committee of the Revenue, 26 Feb. 

— 1647, Trimty Houfe impowered to take it into their 

Cuftody, 3 July. 

—— 1648, Order for making it tenable, and for Supplies 
of Ordmince and Guns, 3 Aug. 

Gray, Lord of Warke, 1646, Order from Lords concerning 
him, 19 Dec.—Ordcr for paying him 5,000 /. towards Satif- 
faction for his Lofles ; agreed to by Lords, 26. 

—— 1647, Report concerning him; Order for paying him 
5,120/. in Satisfaction of all Demands, 20 Mar. Agreed to 
by Lords, 21. ; 

1648, Houfe approves of his commanding a Regiment; 
his Attendance to be difpenfed with, 1 July.——To be 
thanked for his Services, 28 Aug.—To have the Command of 
Athby de la Zouch, 29. 

—— Colonel Henry, 1647, Petition referred to a Committee, 
6 July. 

Lady, 1647, her Petition from Lords, with {pecial Re- 
commendation, 16 July. They put Houfe in mind thereof, 
16 Sept. , 

—— 1648, Order from them concerning her — Order for paying 
her 2002, Lords Concurrence to be defired, 19 June. 


















































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volted, and ditcharged him and others from their Commands; 
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—— Richard, 1648, to be fent for in fafe Cuftody, for beiag 
active in the late Infurrection in Kent; Member to affitt in 
fending him up; Examination referred to the Committee of 
the Navy, 19 June Report; Power given them to bail 
him ; the Committee of Kent to examine him, 3 Aug, 

Captain, 1648, Letters, Papers, and Infiruétions to him, 

taken in his Ship, to be perufed by a Committee; Order fora 

Reward to the Meflenger, 29 July. Report ; Letters, &c. 

to be opened, and communicated to the Common Council, 31 

Prince’s Infiructions to him, and other material Commil= 
fions and Papers to be printed, 1 Aug.—Order againft dif- 
charging him without Leave of Houle, 3. 

Greenwood, Captain Robert, 1648, Order for the Committee at 
Derby Houle to grant him a Commitiion to command a Troop 
of Horfe, 1 July. Agreed to by Lords, 3. 

Gregge, Captain, 1646, Lords put Houfe in mind of his Peti- 
tion, 23 Feb. 

1647, Like Meflage, 22 Apr. 

1648, they recommend him for an Employment, 18 
May. 

Gregory, Captain William, 1647, his Petition from Lords, with 
{pecial Recommendation, 10 Feb. Order for recommmend- 
ing him to the Committee of the Admiralty for an Employ- 
ment, 16 Mar. 

—— Henry, 1648. Vide Privileges. 

Greve, Colonel, 1646, Order for paying him 2,000 Z. in Part of 
his Arrears, 17 Feb. Agreed to by Lords, 20. 

1647, for continuing his Regiment, 8 Apr. for paying 
them 200/. and quartering them, 5 June—for muttering them, 
7—1for a Month’s Pay tor them; agreed to by Lords, 15—In- 
formation touching his raifing Recruits here, referred to the 
Committee of the Army ; Quarter-matter to the Regiment to 
attend them, 26. 

Grice, Francis, 1647, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency, read, and pafled ; Lords Concurrence 
to be defired, 6 Mar. 

Grievances, 1647, a Committee to confider of fuch Grievances 
as have been promited to be redrefled, and what Eafe is fit te 
be given to the People, in relation to their Burdens, Freedoms, 
and Liberties, and to confider of reforming Courts of Juttice 
and Proceedings at Law, and in Matters of Trade, and pre- 
pare Bills and Ordinances for the fame, 4 Jan. Quorum ap- 
pointed, 5. Committee impowered to fend for Parties, &ce.— 
Ihe Committee, and Order to them, to be printed—Their 
Reports to have Precedence, 8 Order for making Report, 


15 Feb. 
































1648, for making Report every Saturday, 18 Apr. 

Griffyn, Sir Edward, 1647, Report of his Fine and Delinquency, 
re-committed; the Committee to provide for well-affected 
Tenants that have fuffered by him, 10 June his Fine ac- 
cepted; Ordinance for pardoning his Delinquency, read, and 
paifed ; Lords Concurrence to be defired, 14 Dec. 

Grigge, Michael 1647, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency, read, and pafled; Lords Concur- 
rence to be defired, g Mar. 

Grimfton, Sir Harbottle, 1647, to have Liberty to go to Spaw, 
with two Servants, &c. 6 July. 

Grindftones, 1648. Vide Coals. 

Grundy, Captain, 1647, his Cafe referred to a Committee, 14 
May Petition referred to the Committee of Complaints, 
13 Jan. 

Guernfey, and Jerfey, 1646, Report from the Committee of the 
Admiraity concerning them, 27 Feb.——Order tor fending 
Ships with Powder, &c. for the Security thereof—Lieutenant 
Colonel Ruffel to execute all Powers formerly given him in 
Guernfey ; the Committee of both [Kingdoms to provide for 
the Safety of the IMflands, and confider of reducing them, 13 
Mar. Order for making Report, 27 &% 30—Colonel Raf- 
fell’s Letter read, 27—Information that fome Pirates of Jerfey 
had taken a Fly-boat, with Soldiers Cloaths, &c. going to 
Ireland, and carried it into St. Maloes ; the Committee for 
Irith Affairs to examine the whole Bufine{s—Letter to be fent 
to the Parliament’s Agent at Paris for the Releafe
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es to examine him, 9 Jan. 

—— Mr. and Mr. Lewis, 1646, a Committee to ftate the 
Matter of Faét concerning them, 4 Feb. 

~—— Lieutenant Griffyth, 1647, to be fent for to attend, 29 

ar. - 

— Edward, 1646, his Fine accepted ; Ordinance for pardon- 

ing his Delinquency, read, and pafled; Lords Concurrence 

to be defired, 20 Dec. 

Captain Licence, 1648, Petition read, 1 June. 

William, 1648, Order for 1,000/. to difcharge his Debts 
8 Engagements ; Ordinance for that Purpofe ordered, 10 

une. 

Lock, Matthew, 1646, appointed Comptroller of the Cuftoms at 

Southampton; Lords Concurrence to be defired, 5 Dec. 
Lockton, William, 1647, his Fine accepted ; Ordinance for 

pardoning his Delinquency, read, and pafled; Lords Concur- 
rence to be defired, 10 Jan. 

Loftus, Sir Adam. Vide Parfons, Sir William—1646, has Li- 
berty for ‘Twelve Months to go into Ireland, without any Stay 
from the Committee of Accounts, 28 Jan. 

1648, a Committee to treat with his Creditors touching 
their Demands, and confider of relieving his prefent Necefli- 
ties, 21 June. 

Loiflur, Nicolas, 1647, Petition; Order for Payment of his 
Arrears, 28 Oét. 

London, 1646, Lord Mayor to be defired to fupprefs tumul- 
tuous Afflemblies; Members to acquaint him therewith, 5 
Dec.—A Committee of both Houfes to confider of Means for 
preventing Dangers from the great Refort of difaflected Per- 
fons to the City and Parts adjacent, 7. Order for their 
meeting—ihe Committee of the Army formerly appointed to 
advife with the Committee of the Militia, and provide for the 
Safety of the City, &c. revived, and to fit de die in diem, 
10—Ordinance from Lords for fending Papifts and Delin- 
quents Twenty Miles from London, read, and patfed ; Or- 
der for printing, and publifhing it by Beat of Drum—Ordi- 
nance for disfranchifing all Citizens that have been in Arms 
againft the Parliament, or adhered to their Enemies, read, 
12—-Petition of Lord Mayor, &c. with a Reprefentation of 
the prefling Grievances and important Defires of the well- 
affected Freemen, read; previous and main Quettions for con- 
fidering them, notwithftanding any former Order, feverally 
Aftlirmative ; Petitioners thanked, 19. Petition, and Repre- 
fentation, read again; Candles ordered ; previous Queftion 
for confidering them in Courfe, Attrmative ; Day appointed, 
22. Firft Paragraph of the Petition read, 29——Copy of a 
Counter Petition, difcovered by Mr. Boys at a Conventicle, 

_ read, and referred to a Committce, 15 Mar.—Petition of 

Lord Mayor, with a Copy of the printed Petition, read ; 
Lord Mayor, &c. thanked, 17—Another Petition, with Cer- 
tificate annexed, avowing the former Petition, to be confi- 
dered, 20 Ordinance trom Lords, concerning the Militia, 
31 Dec. Order for Intereft to Perfons who will advance 
9,000 /, Part of 12,0004. formerly granted to the City 
Guards ; Lords Concurrence to be defired, 18 Feb.—A Com- 
mittee to prepare Ordinance for keeping Delinquents and Ma- 
lignants out of the Lines Two Months longer, 20o—Ordinance 
to be read—Ordinance from Lords, concerning the Militia, 
to be read, 17. 

—— 1647, like Order, 27 Mar. Ordinance read twice, 
30 Queftion for committing it to a Committee of the whole 
Houfe, Neg. Order for committing it to a felect Committe, 
2 Apr. Ordinance reported; Provifo read; Queftion for 
Second Reading, Neg. Ordinance pafled, with Amend- 
ments; Amendments to be communicated to Lords at a Con- 
ference; Managers appointed, 15 Refolution for borrowing 
200,000/. for the Service of England and Ireland, 30 Mar. 

Agreed to by Lords—A Committee of both Houfes to 

treat with the City thereupon ; Lord Mayor to be defired to 

call a Common Council, 2 Apr. The Committee impow- 
ered to offer any Security in the Parliament's Power, except 
as excepted, 6. Lord Mayor to be defired to call another 

Common Council, 16. ‘Their Anfwer reported; Refolu- 



































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lofe Committee—For 
apprehending the London Agents, feverally agreed to, 29 
—-General’s Letter that he had ordered a Regiment of Foot 
to qnarter in the City to aflift in colleéting the Arrears duc to 
ihe Army ; Letter to fiay their March, ordered ; Lord Mayor 
to be defired to call a Common Council; a Committee of 
both Houfes to prefs them to expedite the Payment thereof, 
and acquaint thein with the Inconveniencies of Delay, 20 
Nov. Houle thanked for their Care in preventing quartering 
Soldiers in the City; written Anfwer prefented, and read; a 
Committee to prepare Anfwer thereto; Anfwer reported, read, 
aud agreed to, 22—Additional Commiffioners for bringing in 








alt Arrears and Affellinents, agreed to by Lords, 26——-Mem- 
bers fent to expedite the bringing in the Six Months Aflcfi- 
menis of 6o,oco/. 8 & 14 Jan.——A Committe to nomi 


nate fit Perfons to join with the Aldermen, &c. of every 
Ward, for fpcedy colleéting cll Arrears; the Committee of 
the Army to prepare Ordinance, authorizing them to proceed, 
229 Mar.——Petition of divers Citizens wounded at Guild- 
hall, read, and referred to the Committce of Complaints, 25 
Nov. Petition of Lord Mayor, &c. read; Speaker’s An- 
fwer, 1 Dee—Ordinance from Lords, touching the Election 
of Officers in the City, read twice, and committed; report- 
ed, and pafled, with Amendments; Amendments agreed to 
by Lords, 16. Copy to be fent to Lord Mayor; Ordinance 
to be printed, 17——-Ordinanee for putting Vapitis and Malig- 
nants out of the Lines, read twice; Comimencement and 
Continuance thercof; Ordinance patled, 16. © Agreed to by 
Lords; Copy to be fent to Lord Mayor; Ordinance to be 
printed, 17—Information that divers Citizens were abufled 
for opening their Shops lafi Chrifimas-day ; Order for the 
Committees of the Militia of London, Wefiminiicr, &c. to 
prevent the like Inconveniencics, to be printed, 24——Peti- 
tion of the Provincial Affembly, read, and referred to the 
Committee of Grievances; Petitioners taanuked, 11 Jan.— 
Lord Mayor and Juftices to profecute late Riots—Commit- 
tees of the Militia of London, Wefiminfter, &c. to put in 
Execution the Ordinance for putting Maliguants and Delin- 
quenis out of tie Lines; the Committee of Complaints to 
commit fuch as ftay ; Power given to employ Perfons for dif- 
covering them; Order for 100/, to recompence fuch Per- 
fons, 14 Jan. Ordinance impowering them to employ Per- 
fons in that Service, read, and pailed; Lords Concurrence to 
be defired, 15. ‘The Committees to make Provofi-martials 
~The Guards at Whitehall and the Meufe to apprehend 
thofe they find in Town, and fend them to a Jufuce; Juf- 
tice impowered to commit them, 17. The Committee of 
Complaints to examine Perlons feized by the City-marfhal, 
18—Ordinance from Lords for giving Power to Jutiices, and 
the Committees of the Militia, to fearch for and apprehend 
Papifis and Delinquents, read, and paffed, 22.—A Commit- 
tee to advife with Judges about Perlons that fixed feditious 
Tickets upon Pofts; King’s Counfel to profecute their Trial, 
27—Refolution for recommending a Recorder; Lords Con- 
currence to be defired, 20 Order for Lieutenant of the 
Tower to fearch for fufpecied Perfons, and warlike Stores, 
within the Lines; Perfons apprehended, and Materials feized, 
to be difpofed of by the Committee at Derby Houfe, 3 Feb. 
Amended, 6——Petition of Merchants, read, and referred to 
the Committee of the Admiralty, 20 Mar.—Ordinanee for 
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Payment of Tythes in the City and Liberties, read, and 
pailed ; Lords Concurrence to be defired, 24. 

1648, Ordinance to be printed and publifhed, 21 Apr. 
—Nairative of late Tumults, and Proceedings thereupon ; 
Proceedings of Lord Mayor, &e. for fuppreffing them, ap- 
proved; Thanks to them, and the General; the Committee 
of the Army to join with the Juftices in examining and com- 
mitting the Abettors—Order for a Commiflion of Oyer
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any Hundreds in the Savoy, read ; Order for lodging them 
in Ely Houfe, 14 Apr. The Rent to be paid by the State— 
Order for paying 1,oo0/. to their Apothecaries, &c. 18. 
Agreed to by Lords, 22——Petition of Sixty in the Savoy, 
&e.; Order for beftowing 200/. on thofe going to Bath, 1 
May. The Committee of the Revenue to pay the Money, 
and reimburfe themfelves out of the Proceed arifing by the 
Sale of the Duke of York’s Horfes, 6 Order fcr a Moiety 
of the Collections next Faft-day for their Relief, g June 
Petition of Treafurers ; Order for an additional Salary of 50/7. 
per Annum—Petition of maimed Soldiers; Order for addi- 
tional Ailowance of 1v0/. per Week, 30 Agreed to by 
Lords, 4 July. 
Soleby, Edward, 1646, to be fent for in fafe Cuftody, 7 Dec. 
—" Charles, 1647, appointed Captain of a Ship, 17 
Mar. 
Somajler, Lieutenant Samuel, 1647, Order for paying him 
350/. in full Satisfaction of all Demands, 21 Mar. Agreed 
to by Lords, 22. 
——— 1648, his Petition referred to the Committee at Gold- 

fmiths Hall, 23 Aug. 
Vox. V. 
























































Firra VoLtumkg. 


— Thomas, 1647, Ordinance from Lords appointing 

uim Comptroller of the Cuf = pe 

— p Oo — at Hull, read, and paffed, 3 

Somerfet, Sir Sohn. Vide Worcefer, Earl of. "es 

Somerfet County, 1647, Petition of well-affected Inhabitants, 
read; Thanks thereupon, 27 Sept. Order appointing High 
Sheriff, and for a Commitflion to him, 17 Nov. Agreed to by 
Lords, 20 Members fent down for bringing in the Arrears 
of the Atleflments of 600,000/. The Committee of the Army 
to prepare Infiructions for then, and a Letter to haften the 
Payment, 23 Dec. Inftructions and Letter reported, read, and 
agreed to, 24. 

1648, Order for a Letter to the Committee, to require 

them to raife and pay Monics to the Regiments marching 








from Briftol to South Wales, 28 Mar.—— Prefentment of 
the grand Inqueft to the Judges, read, and referred to the 
Committee of public Grievances, 18 Apr.—-Members_ to 


prefent to the Commiilioners of the Great Seal Names of fit 
Perfons to be Juftices of Peace in the County, 1 May— 
Member fent down for Prefervation of the Peace thercof ; 
Power given him to raife a Regiment of Horfe—Letter to 
be fent to a Gentlemen, to defire him to employ his bef 
Endeavours for the fame Purpofe, 2a——Ordinance for pay- 
ing the Forces in the County, ordered, 1 Aug. 

Houfe, 1647, a Committee to take care the Prince 
Eleétor, and Members of both Houfes, now at Whitehall, 
may be accommodated there, 14 Jan.—Order for fitting up 
the Chapel, 22. 

Southampton County, 1646, Petition of Officers and Soldiers, 
read; Order for paying them 6,ooo/. upon Account, 24 
Jan. 

1647, Order appointing High Sheriff, and fora Com- 
miffion to him, 17 Nov. Difagreed to by Lords ; Houle ad- 
here to their Vote, 29 Meimbers fent down to bring in 
the Arrears of the Affefiments of Goo,ooo/.; the Committee 
of the Army to prepare Inftructions for them, and Letter to 
haften the Payment, 23 Dec. Inftruciions and Letter reported, 
read, and agreed to, 24. 

— 1648, Sheriff has Leave to refide out of the County, 

4 Apr. The Committee impowered to raife Forces ; Lords 

Concurrence to be defired—Comumittees added, 27 June 

Gentlemen of the County to advife with the Committee at 

Derby Houfe for Prefervation of the Peace thereof, 4 July— 

The Committee impowered to raife a Troop of Horfe ; Cap- 

tain appointed, 10. Agreed to by Lords, 11 Comunittees 

added for Execution of all Ordinances, 11 Aug. 

—— Town, 1646, Comptroller of the Cultoms appointed ; 
Lords Concurrence to be defired, 5 Dec. 

————— 1647, Order for difgarifoning it, and flighting the 
new Works, 4 O&t. 

- 1648, Letter from thence; Order for additional 
Forces and GunnersFor fending down Arms and Ammu- 
nition—For raifing 200 Men, and drawing them into the Town 
—For making the Fortifications to Sea-ward, 25 July—For 
Mayor to inlift Perfonsunder the Governor; Lords 
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. 

Turney, Edward, 1647, his Vine accepted ; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency, read, and paffed ; Lords Concurrence 
to be defired, 5 Jan. 

Turpin, Richard, 1648, his Fine accepted ; Ordinance 
doning his Delinquency, read, and paffed, 27 Mar. 
Concurreuce to be defired, 27 Mar.——26 Aue. 

Turwhitt, Robert, 1647, his Vine accepted; Subftance of a 
Petition annexed, to be reported; ime to be mitigated— 
Ordinance for pardoning his Delinqueacy, read, and palled ; 
Lords Concurrence to be defired, 15 Junc. 

Tutbury Catile, 1646, to be made untenable ; the County Com- 
mittice to fee it done, 2 Mar. 

1647, Houfe adhere to their Vote, 19 July. 

Tuttie, Mr. Vide Totteridge. 

Twifden, Mr. 1647, Meflage from Lords concerning the Copy 
of an Aé&é of Parliament, with their Clerk’s Hand forged, taid 
to be in his Cufiody, 18 May. 
therewith, 20. 
21. 

Twiffe, Dr. 1647, Report concerning the Subfitience of his 
Children, to be made, 23, Dee. 

——— 1648, their Petition; Order for charging 1,000/. with 
Intereft, upon the Exeife, for them; Ordinance for that Pur- 
pofe, ordered, 4 Aug. 

Twijelton, Major, 1647, to have Colonel Rofleter’s Regiment 
—Regiment to be continued, 8 Apr. 

—————— 1648, Order for paying him 1,000/, upon Account, 2 
Aue. Amended; Lords Concurrence to be delired, 4. 

Tyddenan, Thomas. Vide Pickering, James. 

Tylladagh, Major, 1646. Vide Privileges. 

Tyndall, Francis, 1647, Report of his Delinquency, re-com- 
mitted, 27 Mar. - 
Tynte, William, 1648, his Cafe reported; Order for difcharging 

“his Delinquency, 1 June. 

Tythes, 1647, a Committee to confider how they and other 

Dues may be paid to the Miniliry, and prepare Ordinance for 




















for par- 
Lords 


Order for acquanung him 
Heard; ordered to deliver it to the Clerk, 


the due Payment thereof, 22 Apr.——Ordinance read, 23 
July. Read Second time, and pafied, with Amendments ; 
Lords Concurrence to be defired, 24———Houle put them in 





mind thereof, 3 Aug. Grievances arifing from Ordinances 
for Payment thereof, referred to a Committee, 15 Sept. 
Order for their meeting, and fitting de die in diem, 18 
Ordinance for paying the London Tythes, read twice, and 
committed, 9g Feb. Another Committee joined with them, 17. 





22° 23° & 24° Cur. I. Parl. 5. A. 1046, 
1647, & 1048. 


p4ae RANTS. Vide Poor. — 

Valentia, Lord Vifcount, 1648, Order for rettoring the 
King’s privy Signet to him, 1 June. Agreed to by Lords, 6. 

Valentine, Benjamin, 1647. Vide Privileges. 

——— Mr. 1647, defired to preach, 16 Sept. Thanked, and 
to print his Sermon, 29. ' 

Vane, Sir Henry, junior, 1646, has Leave to refign the Trea- 
furerfhip of the Navy, at his own Requeft; Power given him 


to nominate a fit Perfon to fucceed him ; agreed to by Lords ; 
Vou. V. 


Member to prepare Ordinance for a Grant under the Great 

Seal for that Purpofe, 28 Dec. 

1647, Certificate of his Accounts to be read, 14 May. 

Sir Henry, fenior, 1646, Order for Re-payment of 200/. 

ditburfed by him, 20 Jan. 

Vafjall, Samuel, 1646, State of his Loffes and Imprifonment 
for refufing to pay ‘Tonage and Poundage, reported ; Order 
for paying him 10,4452. 12s. 2d. Houle to take his Suffer- 
ings and Imprifonment into further Confideration, 18 Jan. 

1647, Order for paying him 2,591/. 17s. 6d. for 
Moneys and Commodities taken in Ireland for the Parlia- 
ment’s Forces; agreed to by Lords, 6 May. : 

Vavafour, William, 1647, his Vine accepted ; Ordinance for 
pardoning his Delinquency, read, and pafled ; Lords Con- 
currence to be defired, 23 Dec. 

Vaughan, Edward, 1646, Information againft him referred to a 
Committee; his Information againft Sir Thomas Middicton, 
referred, 17 Feb. 

Colonel Jofeph, 1647, Report concerning him; Refo- 
lution that there appears Matter fufficient to accute him of 
High Crimes and Mifdemeanors ; his Commitment approved ; 
a Committee to prepare the [mpeachment, 24 Aug, 

— 1648, Order for difcharging him from his linprifonment, 

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ther Letter, and feveral Examina- 
tions touching ii, to be made Ufe of by the Commiflioners, 
5.—Another Letter, and other Examinations, read—Leave 
a to debate touching the Manner of the Trials, notwith- 

anding the former Vote; Refolution tor trying the Offenders 
by a High Court of Juftice, 6. Act for confiituting a High 
Court of Juftice there, and in feveral neighbouring Counties, 
read twice; Quefiions for Commitment and Ingroffment, 
feverally Neg. Ad paffed, and to be printed ; the eae of 
State to fee it put in fpeedy Execution, and provide all Necet- 
faries for the Commifiioners, 10. Order tor a Pardon under 
the Great Seal to Four Perfons condemned; Sheriff to forbear 
Execution, 17 Jan. 

Northampton County, 1649, High Sheriff appointed ; Order for 
a Commiilion under the Great Seal, 7 Nov. 

1650, like Order, 21 Nov. 

Town, 1649, Vetition of well affeéted Inhabitants 

touching their Charter, referred to a Committee, 22 Nov. 

Earl of, 1649, Petition read, and referred to the Com- 

mittee at Goidfmiths Hall, 16 July. 

1650, State of his Cafe reported; Order for ad- 
mnitting him to his Compolition ; the Committee to compound 
with him, 9 Apr. Matter touching his Fine to be con- 
fidered ; the Committee at Gold{miths Hall to fettle the Mat- 
ter of Fact, 28 June. Order for making Report, 21 Aug. 
Report; previous and main Queftions for fining bim 20,000/. 
—For fining him 16,o00/. feverally Neg. Refolution tor 
fining him 14,1532. 16s. 8d. Commiltioners for compounding 
to fee it paid, 23. 

Northern Counties, 1648, a Committee to aflign, pay, and 
fettle, an Eftablifhment for the Forces there, 16 Feb. Act 
for difpofing of the Compoiition-monies to the paying and dif- 
banding the new raifed Forces, reported, and pailed, 2 Mar. 

1649, Act for Jutiices of Peace there, ordered, 1 
May. ‘To be read, 21. Recommended to the Committee 
of the Navy, to take care the Garifons be conftantly paid, 18 
Sept. A Committee to prepare Act for Kedrels of their 
Grievances, or confider of fome other Way for their Relief, 
20 Dec. Aét for preaching the Gofpel, and Maintenance 
of the Minifters and School-matters, ordered, 15 Feb. Read 
twice, and comunitted, 22. Keported ; Continuance there- 
of ; Queftion for Ingrofiment, Neg. Act paffed, 1 Mar. 

— 1650, Act for Continuance thereof, read, and pafled, 
11 Apr.——The Council of State to prepare Letters to be fent 
for raifing a Referve, to be upon the Borders, and for what 
further Forces they think neceflery, to be fent into Scotland ; 
Speaker to fign them, 13 Aug. Upon Report from them, 
Order for adding a Phyfician for the Northern Garifons to 
Eftablifhment, and touching his Pay and Arrears from the 
Time of his Entertainment. Advocate for the Forces to 
be appointed ; Order touching his Salary, 23 Oct. 

Northumberland, 1649, High Sheriff appointed ; Order for 
a Commiffion under the Great Seal, 7 Nov. 

1650, Petition of divers Inhabitants to be confidered, 

28 Mar. Read; previous Queftion for referring it io a Com- 

mittee, Neg. 29. High Sheriff appointed; Order for a 

Commiflion under the Great Seal, 21 Nov. 

Earl of, 1651, Petition read, and referred to a Com- 

mittee, with Power to examine Perfons upon Oath, 25 Apr. 

Order for making Report, 10 June. 

Norwich, 1648, Petition of the Mayor, &c. read ; Ordinance 
for the Purpofe therein, ordered, 2 Feb.—A@ for regulating 
the Eleétions of Officers, and preventing the eleéting of ill- 
affected Perfons, read twice, and committed, 28. Reported, 
— paffed—Petition of the Walloon Church there, to be read, 

ar. 

y 1649, Bufinefs touching an Infurreétion there, referred 

to the Committee of Complaints, 17 Apr. Report; Per- 

fons ordered into Cuftody. Vide Tooley, Mr. and Uiting, 

John—Petition of Mayor, &c. read, 12 Sept. Power given 

them to _ a Watch; Act for that Purpofe ordered, 13. 

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to by Lords, with Amendinents, 27 Sheriffs to execute 
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their Offices without taking the Oaths of Allegiance and Sit- 
premacy, 15 Jan. 

Sidney, Colonel Algernoon, Ordinance from Lords appcinting 
him Lieutenant of Dover Cafile, read, aad agreed to, 13 
Oct. 

Siily, Isle of, Copy of the Governor of P!ymouth’s Letter to 
the Governor thereof, read; his Proceedings approved, 13 
Sept.——Letters from thence, read; Order for exchanging 
the Prifoners in the tsle—For paying One of them 100/. for 
his prefent Relief, and towards his Expences, 7 Oct. 

Skippon, Major General, Ordinance concerning him, to be 
reported, 24 O&. 

Skyuner, Captain, Order for trying him and other Pirates taken 
with him, by the Court of Admiralty, 28 Nov. 

Sleaford, William, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for pardoning 
lus Delinquency, read, and patfed ; Lords Concurrence to be 
defired, 19 Sept. 

Smith, Sebattian. Vide Poyntz, John. 

Smilhby, Thomas, his Debt allowed; Ordinance for Payment 
thereof, ordered, 30 Dee.—-Read, and pafled; Lords Con- 
currence to be defired, 15 Jan. 

Smyth, John, of Small Combes-Court, his Vine accepted ; Or- 
dinance for pordoning his Deliquency, read, and patfed ; 
Lords Concurrence to be defired, 19 Sept. 

John, of Oxon, his Fine accepted ; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency, read, aud patied ; Lords Concurrence 
to be defired, 26 Sept. 

Soldiers, maimed, the Committee of the Army to confer with 
Major Hutbands, whether they want Surgeons——Thofe cured 
to be placed in the Hofpitals in Kent, and have the Prefer- 
ence, 8 Sept.—Order for an additional Allowance of 204. 
per Week to thofe in the Savoy—Ordinance for an additional 
Allowance of 120/. per Week for wounded Soldiers and Wi- 
dows, read, and paffed; Lords Concurrence to be defired, 25 
~——Petition of Treafurers, with Particulars annexed, read, 
aud referred to the Committee for maimed Soldiers; the 
Committee to take efleétual Courfe for Redrefs of Grievances 





and Obfiructions mentioned therein, 9 Nov.——Order for a 
Collection in the Houte for the Wives and Widows of poor 
Soldiers, 8 Dec.——General’s Letter touching fick and maimed 


Soldiers ; Order for 4004. to buy Bedding, &e. 6 Jan. 
Solicitor General, appointed, 12 Oct. 
Somerfet County, Members to fign and fend Copies of Letters, 
for quickening the bringing in the Affeffments and Arrears of 


the Army, 23 Sept.——Order for difbanding the new-raifed 
Forces; the Committee to pay their Arrears, deducting for 
free Quarter, 23 Oct——Order appointing High Sheriff, and 


for a Commnitlion to him, 23 Nov. Agreed to by Lords, 
27—Nlembers to write into the Country, and take care for 
bringing in the Affeflments for the Army, 25——Petition of 
well-ailvéted Inhabitants concerning Jufiice, Safety, and Re- 
ligion, read; Petitioners thanked, 21 Dec.—Member to pre- 
pare Letter to encourage the Affociation made in the County 
~—Commander of the aflociated Forecs, appointed, 25. 

Southampton County, Members to fend Letters into the Country 
for quickening the bringing in the Afleffments and Arrears of 
the Army, 23 Sept.——Order for difbanding the new-raifed 
Forces; the Committee of the County to pay their Arrears, 
deducting for free Quarter, 23 Oé¢t——-25 Nov.—Order ap- 
pointing High Sheriff, and fora Commitlion to him, 23 Nov. 
Another appointed by 7: 








Lords, agreed to, 27 Another 
appointed in his fiead; Lords Concurrence to be defired, 
1 Jan. 

—-——. Town, Order for fending down Arms and Ammu- 
nition, 25 Sept——For ditbanding the new-raifed Men, 
25 Nov. 

— Earl of, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for pardoning 
his Delinguency, read, and pafled ; Lords Concurrence to be 
defired, 28 Sept. 

Southwark, Petition of divers Inhabitants, read, and referred to 
a Committee, 18 Jan. 

Speaker. Vide Privileges—Gives a catting Vote, 9 Oct. 

Spencer, Richard, his Fine accepted; Ordinance tor pardoning 
his Delinquency, read, and pafled; Lords Concurrence to be
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in a Book by themfelves ; none except Members to fee them, 
without Leave of the Houfe; Matter of the Report, and the 
feveral Papers, referred to the Council of State, 2 July. 

Stringer, George, 1649, Order for making Report touching his 
Wife and Children, 10 Oct. 

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1650, Report; Debt of 160/. 18s. allowed; Order for 
paying it out of her Difcoveries, 7 June. 
Strong, Mr. defired to preach, 6 July, 1649 
13 Sept. 1650. Thanked, and to print his Sermons, 26 

July 1649 14 June 9 Ot. 1650. 

Studdolph, William, 1640, upon General’s Letter to be ad- 
mitted to compound upon the Articles of Oxon, 18 June. 

Stuart, Charles, late King’s eldeft Son, 1648; Queftions for 
fending the late King’s Diamond Garter, George, and Seals, 
to him, feverally Neg. 31 Jan——Act for making it High 
Treafon to promote his Title, ordered, 19 Feb. Refolu- 
tion that he be banifhed, and his Eftate confifcated, 14 Mar. 

1649, Report from the Council of State touching Cor- 

refpondence with him and his Party, referred to them to pre- 

pare Act for preventing thefe Mifchiels, 30 Nov. 

1651, Act read twice; Continuance thereof; Ac& 
pafled ; to be printed, and publifhed in the feveral Ceunties, 
12 Aug. 

— James, late King’s Son, 1648, Refolution that he be 
banifhed, and his Eftate confifeated, 14 Mar. 

Sudeley Cattle. Vide Chandos, Lord. 

Suffolk, 1648, High Sheriff appointed; Order for a Commiflion 
under the Great Seal, 7 Feb. 
——— 1640, like Order, 7 Nov. 

the monthly Affetfment, 28 Dec. 

1650, High Sheriff appointed ; Order for a Commiflion 
under the Great Seal, 7 Nov. To take upon him the Exe- 
cution of his Office within 'Ten Days, upon pain of forfeiting 
1,000/. 17 Jan. Order for a fpecial Commitiion of Oyer 
and Terminer under the Great Seal, to try Offenders in the 
County, 3 Dec. 

Sugar Candy, 1649. Vide Supply. 

Sugars, 1649. Vide Supply.—Pectition of Merchants and Re- 
finers, read, 19 Dee. 

Sunday, 1649, the Committee of plundered Minifters to perufe 
Aéts and Ordinances touching the Day, and prepare Act 
for better and more due Obfervation thereof, 1 Mar, Aé&t to 
be prefented, 15. Read twice, and committed, 22. 

1650, Reported, and to be ingroffed, 12 Apr. Paffed, 
and to be printed, 10. Order for printing a competent 
Number to fupply every Parifh ; the Council of State to take 
care they are fent, 16 May. 

SUPPLY. 

——— 1648, Order for the Book of Rates fent to Lords, 2 
Jan.—A Committee to confider how 300,000/. may be raifed 
for the Navy and other public Services, 12. Refolution for 
raifing 120,000/, per Mentem, for maintaining the Forces in 
England and Ireland—For adding 10,0004 to the 60,000/. 
per Menfem for the Payment of the Forces in England, and 
20,0001. per Menfem for thofe in Ireland For levying 
90,000l, by way of Tax, towards the 120,000/—For Six 
Months Charge on each County, to be according to the Pro- 
portion in former Ordinances ; a Committee to confider of an 
equal Rule for Goods and Lands, 8 Mar. Refidue to be 
raifed by the Sale of Fee-farm Kents; a Committee to con- 
fider how they may be fold, and prepare Aét for that Purpofe, 
Q. The Committee at Goldfmiths Hall to confider of 
raifing 300,000/, for the Ufe of the Commonwealth, 12 
Dee. Order for their meeting and making Report, 8 Jan. 

1650, Refolution for an Afjeffment for Six Months for the 

Armies in England and Ireland; Commencement thereof ; 

90,000/, per Menfem for the Firft Three Months, and 60,0004. 

for the laft; previous and main Quettions for the Proportions 

of each County to be as in the laft Bill, feverally Affirmative ; 

Bill ordered, 2 May. Vide infra. A Committee to con- 

fider how prefent Monies may be advanced upon any vilible 

Securities ; Certificate from the 'Trufiees for Deans and Chap- 

ters Lands, referred, 28 Aug. Abftract of the State of the 

feveral Treafuries—Of the State of the
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iff, and for a 
Commillion to him, 23. Agreed to by Lords, 27—Mem- 
bers to write down and take care for bringing in the Affefl- 
ments for the Army, 25. 

Writs, Stile to be uled therein, reported; Order for altering 
them, 23 Jan. 

—— new, viz. For Steyning, 20 Sept. Chippenham, 11 Nov. 
Weftlow, Droitwich, Eaft Rettord, Canterbury, and Portf- 
mouth, 18. 

Wrottefley, Sir Walter, his Fine accepted; Ordinance for par- 
doning his Delinquency, read, and paffed ; Lords Concurrence 
to be defired, 11 Sept. 














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INDEX © the SIxTH VOLUME. 


4.1648, 1649, 1050, & 1651. 


) ADDON cum Membris, 1650, Order againft felling 
Timber in the Manor, 26 Sept. 

Wade, William, 1649, Petition read, and referred to the Com- 
— for Irifh Affairs; Order for paying what is due to him, 
9 July. 

Waggoners, 1650, Report concerning them, referred to a Com- 
mittee, 17 May—— heir Report, 6 June. 

1651, Quefiion that there is fufficient Ground to 
charge the Siate with further Pay to them, Neg. 24 July. 

Wagstaffe, Captain, 1649, the Council of State to confider his 
Charges with refpect to fuppreiling the Mutineers at Oxon, 
11 Sept. 

Waite, Colonel Thomas, 1650, Account of what Money he 
has received in Part of 2,010/. formerly ordered hin ; his 
Petition read; Certificate touching the Value of Lands he 
holds in Leafe from the Duke of Bucks; Order for lim to 
have the Pre-emption of them, and for allowing him the 
Femainder of his Debt in Part of Purchafe-money, 31 July. 

Wakeman, Robert, 1648, appointed Under Searcher in the Port 
of London, 5 Feb. 

Wales, 1648, Aét for altering the Judicial Seal for Three Coun- 
ties, read, and paffled; Judges to bring up the Seals for other 
Counties to be altered, 6 I’eb.—Act for altering them, read, 
and paffed, 5 & 10 Mar. 

1649, other Acts for altering them, read, and pafied, 
1 & 10 May —-11 June 12 July Act for preaching 
the Gofpel there, ordered, 17 Jan. Aét for that Purpofe, 
and for relieving fome Grievances, read twice, and commit- 
ted, 29 Reported, with the Names of Commiflioners and 
Minifters to be inferted ; Commiflioners added; Act to be in- 
grofled, 5 Feb. Paffed, and to be printed ; the Committee 
to prepare Inftructions for the Commiflioners, 22. 

South, 1648, Houfe approves of continuing Colonel 
Philip Jones’s Regiment there, 2 Feb.—-The Committee of 
the Army, and Commillioners for Sequeftrations, to confider 
of taking off the Sequeftrations of the poorer Sort, 7: Im- 
powered to —_ Act for that Purpofe, 8—Patent for con- 
itituting a Juftice, read, and agreed to, 22—Act for admit- 
ting the Counties to a general Compofition, read twice, and 
committed ; Perfon to pe added, as excepted; Act reported, 
and paffed, 23—General to be defired to grant Commiflions 
to Volunteers, 28. 

1649, Petition of Inhabitants read; referred to Ge- 
neral to fecure thofe Parts; Petitioners thanked, 16 July 
—Attorney General appointed, 20 The Committee of 
the Revenue to give Judges that go the Circuit what further 
Allowance they think fit, 22 Feb. 

1650, humble Keprefentation of the Inhabitants, read, 
and to be printed ; Speaker’s Anfwer, 20 June. 

——— North, 1649, Judges appointed to go the Circuit ; Or- 
der for further Allowance to them, 15 June The Com- 
mittee of the Revenue to give them what further Allowance 
they think fit, 22 Feb. A& for Sequefirations, ordered, 
27 June A& for admitting the Six Counties to an equal 
Compofition, read twice, and committed; the Committee to 
prefent Names of Commiflioners, 4 Aug. Act to be reported, 
8. Reported; Provifo touching late Archbifhop of York, 
read, and laid afide; Aét paffed, and to be printed, 10 

Attorney General appointed, 20 July. ; 

1650, the Committee of the Army to take care to get 
in the Compofition-monies, 9 July. ; 

Walford, Edward, 1649, Petition read, and referred to a Com- 
mittee, 7 Sept. Act for fettling the Meffuage and Tene- 
ment over Worcefter Houfe Gate upon him and his Heirs, 
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der touching the Maintenance of them, 13 Sept. Vide York 
County. 





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INDEX 0 the StxtuH Vo.uumeE. 


A. 1648, 1649, 1650, & 1651. 


ARM OUT H, 1650, Letters from thence, with Papers 

inclofed, read, 15 Apr. 

1651, Petition of Inhabitants, read, and referred to 
the Committee of Indemnity, with Power to determine the 
Bufinefs, 10 July—A for propagating the Gofpel, and 
Maintenance of Minifters there, ordered, 24. ; 

Yates, Licutenant, 1650, Petition read; Order for inferting him 

_ ina Pardon, 2 Ot. 

Yonge, Lllis, 1651, Reverfion of the Office of Remembrancer 
of the Exchequer granted him upon paying his Predeceflor’s 
Executors, &c, 200/. per Annum for Seven years, 15 
July. 

York Crane, 1648, a Committee to prepare Letter to the Com- 
miflioners of Affeffments to make Eftimate of the Loffes and 
Damages fuftained by the Coming in of the Scots, and by the 
Forces fent down for their Defence, 13 Feb. © 

—- 1649, Refolution and Prefentment of the Two Grand In- 
quefis, read, and to be printed, with a Letter from the Gentle- 
men of the a appointing Commiflioners to difplace 
ignorant, fcandalous, and malignant Minifters, and place 
godly Men in their rooms, ordered, 27 Mar. Litt of 
Money due to Perfons, who lent it for maintaining the War 
againit the Parliament ; the Committee at Haberdafhers Hall 
to compound with them, and call in any other Perfons en- 
gaged in the like manner, and compound with them, 16 
June. Commiffioners added for the Affeffment of go,000 /. 
per Menfem, 4 July.—Petition of Grand Jury concerning 
fettling Courts of Judicature in the County, and General’s 
Letter, read; Petition referred to a Committee, 6.—A& for 
difpofing of the Sequeftrations of the new Delinquents towards 
difbanding the Forces to be read, 16. Read twice, 1 Aug. 

High Sheriff appointed; Order for a Commiffion under 

the Great Seal, 26 O¢.——A Committee to prepare an A& 

for Redrefs of the Inhabitants Grievances, or confider of fome 

other Way for their Relief, 20 Dec. 

1650, Act for propagating the Gofpel in the County, or- 

dered, 19 Apr. o be read, 11 May. Read 24. 

Committed, 7 June. The Committee revived, and tu 












































make the Bill general, 12 Mar. Vide Gofpe if. 

fioners Letter, with Paper inclofed, 24 O&. cane 

tain. Letter from the Commitlioners for Affeflmey ss. read 
and referred to the Committee of the Army; Gentlunen of 
the County to aflift them, 7 Jan. 

City 1048, General’s Letter touching the Excifemen, to 

be read 28 Feb. Read ; Order for difcharging a Bond for 

500/. taken up by the Lord Mayor, &c. of the Sub-com- 

miffioners, for the Service of the Parliament, 2 Mar. 

1649, Articles to be confidered, 11 June. Letter from 
thence read ; the Council of State to take care the A@tors in 
the Abufe therein mentioned be punifhed, and the Bufinefs 
fettled for the fecurity of the Country, 16 July. 

Young, Captain Antony, appointed Commander of Ship, 25 
June, 1649——26 Sept. 1650. 

1651, his Letter read, 13 May. 

Younge, Edward, 1649, Pardon for him, read, and agreed to; 
Order for pafling it under the Great Seal, 3 July. 














24° Car. 1. Parl. 5. A. 1648. 


SE LAND TIA, a Ship; the Committee of the Navy to ftate 
the Bufinefs concerning it, 6 Jan. 
Zouch, Athby de la, the Garifon to be flighted, and made 
untenable, 25 Nov. 


A. 1648, 1649, 1650, & 1651. 


ZACHARY, Ce Robert, 1650, Order for paying his 
Widow 5e00/. 4 Mar. 
Zelandia, a Ship, 1648, the Committee of the Navy to hear and 
determine the Bufinefs concerning it, 3 Feb. 








FINTS. 


Vo Le VI.
    ! ture to their just pretensions, we shall as-s'r sign as weighty a motive for such a pro- * cceding as has produced many others of great importance in parliament. These eJ; grievances were, indeed, expressly stated in the motion, amongst the reasons on r i3 which it was grounded. But the special x* occasion of this transaction was, the ex-r.j tension of the malt tax to Scotland. This f[s tax was, in fact, felt to be oppressive on j'f that country; and it was besides fairly Questionable, whether the imposition of Is* this tax, at that particular point of time, r ft was not contrary to an article of the union. I it is not my design to make any separate and distinct motion for any plan of reform which has at any time been projected; ray intention is rather to show the necessity of entering upon the discussion of the partial question, by a review of the general principles which are connected with the great point of parliamentary representation* Had the season been favourable for such an inquiry; had men’e '' minds been in a temper to accompany, me 88] respecting a Duran oak h Ireland. A. D . 1800, {DO n a©ensi deration of that subject, I should •willingly have revived at large that discussion which more than once 1 have had the honour to move in this House. For the present, however, I am disposed to wave the question in the shape to which 1 allude. 1 shall only slightly touch upon the leading topics which nave been orged on former occasions. Besides this, I have an additional'personal motive to restate with precision the grounds upon which 1 have supported and proposed a reform in the parliamentary representation. I wish to guard against the insinuation so often thrown out against those who are favourable to a reform, that they are inclined to be swayed too much by theories of government and systems of speculative perfection. These are far from the principles which 1 have ever followed or approved. I neves proposed any scheme of reform to this House upon the mere recommendation of specious and beautiful theory. The only reason why I ever urged the blouse to adopt a parliamentary reform was, because it appeared to me a necessary remedy for an actual existing grievance. No man can subscribe more cordially than I do to the maxim, that in government practical good is infinitely preferable to speculative perfection. 1 know that it is incumbent upon every wise legis-. dative assembly to be guided by the dictates of this fundamental rule. Without it, government would be destitute of all steadiness of operation and uniformity of design. Instead of following maxims sanctioned by experience, the course of government would be continually exposed to the dangers arising from the ebullition of temporary passions, to the shocks of ineessant experiment, and the projects of visionary speculation. Government would be a fluctuating and uncertain establishment, balanced by no stock of embodied wisdom, directed by no certain landmarks, obedient to no steady principle of action. To government so abandoned by all experience, and resigned to every conflict of passion, and every caprice of theory, would apply the words of the poet, in his description of winter: * A leafless branch her sceptre, and her throne An icy car, indebted to no wheels, But urg’d by storms along its slipp’ry way." But though I am ready to acknowledge the justness of the maxim, ! am not afraid to assart, on the other hand, that as a maxim of policy itmay be carried to an tttrttpsw U would diubUets be -carried beyond the bounds of discriminating' wisdom, if a dislike to innovation were to lead us to reject all temperate and proper precaution, in a case where we observed an evident tendency to evil. Some, for instance, push their aversion to all reform so far that they would oppose any proposal to change the composition of the representative body, though the county of Middlesex alone were to choose all the members of parliament that were to legislate for England. Surely this is not an application of the maxim, that we ought to be careful of indulging in novation, which wise men would be required to sanction in their attention to the practical necessities of human affairs. When we ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ive him of it*» Sir, the bon. gentleman has stated, that, it is not fair to condemn principles, such* as those which have of late been established in France, because they may have been abused. I perfectly agree that there is no principle in morals or politics? which is not capable of abuse; but I can-, not think this observation applicable to: the principles of the French revolution * I contend, that the principles of that revolution, the rights of mao, as conveyed and explained by the leaders to the people? in France, and as afterwards Acted upon* are fundamentally false. What were, those principles I Equality was publicly-held out to the lower orders of the people1 equality in rank and in power.: equality even almost unlimited in property. Little indeed, has that person observed of homam nature, who does not know that men arm unequal in talents, strength, activity, and in short, in every quality of the mind and body.*' Government is not founded on the equa-< lity, but is a regulation of the natural, inequalities of man. Artificial inequality* has always been considered as the corrective of natural inequality, . The object of government and of society, is not to) counteract that order of things which Providence* has established, and which; do what we will* we cannot avoid; butits'. Object is* to prevent those convulsions' which, in a state of nature* .could not JaiL I 4051 r.'r^fr*p*U*g» Union wkhTrtLmii. X >?il. Tfrl8dfc> '* i£W «rnifti(eiit ^edhrenky of the drtrxc-ftera, aftdtheviolence of the passions ef men; to seooreto every one the fruits ef Jus awn rockutrt; to maintain si) the gra-datioos in life, from the prince to thepea^ not; to restrain the powerful; to assist 4be weak; to relieve the distressed; and to afford to each dess of the community the greatest degree of happiness which it Je capable of enjoying, With respect to the Question of parliamentary reform, we, who have been at all tones most averse to it; have always admitted, that if a practical grievance to a considerable extent could really be proved; if it could be shown that this House, virtually representing the people, were not generally m unison with their Sentiments and wishes, and that the popular feeling was not impressed upon it; we 1 say, have always admitted, that if all this could be proved, it would be a proper ground for tome parliamentary reform, I likewise agree that there may be cases where the expectancy of an evil may be ground for reform, though the evfl itself has not been felt. But mch cases should be acted upon with extreme caution, for by an unnecessary change we may frequently create an evil where none exists, and where onr only object ought to be to avoid one. The only really safe ground of reform is a practical grievance, which, if it is not now considerable in itself, should appear at least to be progressiva. It will not, then, be thought surprising when we consider all the effects of good government; ’when wefeel and observe, that this country has, for so long a period, enjoyed-every blessing which any country has ever enjoyed, ana which perhaps any one is capable of enjoying, that we should entertain a strong prejudice against any alteration in the frame of our government. a Sir, if I was called upon to state what in any idea constitutes a good government, I should ray, that the best evidences of its excellence are, the existence of internal tranquillity, civil liberty, the power of defence against a foreign enemy, and progressive and increasing wealth and prosperity. If I look to the first point, internal tranquillity, and consider with how few interruptions this country has enjoyed this blessing for a century, I sCe on this ground, no plea for reform. When 1 look to civil liberty, and observe that no country in lhe world ever enjoyed it in such a degree, to such an extent, so pure, so unrestrained^ as this country hm done from the'time of theiRevolution:; tsac here, the strongest argument against parliamentary reform. If I consider the power of resistance and defebce against an enemy, which our government possesses; it I review the energy which it has displayed in all were, bqt more especially in the course of the present contest, if a reflect upon its great and successful efforts in defending its own territories and liberties, and its exertions for the salvation oiT Europe, surely I see, on this ground, a strong argument against parliamentary reform. If I look to the last point, to internal prosperity and wealth, I look at out situation in this respect, not only with satisfaction and pride, but with emotions of astonishment and surprise. Sir, no man’s expectations' however sanguine — no man's hopes, however confident — could make him suppose that possible, which he sees ver ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- y of them differ from those who have been constantly inimical to it. Some of the reformers have proposed universal suffrage:softie have been desirous of giving the right of suffrage to all householders \ a system which, if not eqoally extensive, is in principle equally dangerous and repugnant to the constitution as that of universal suffrage: I say, that it is eqoally dangerous and repugnant to the constitution, because both these plans would have the same effect of establishing population as the basis of representation, ana not property. With persons who entertain either of these opinions, I have no ideas In common, and to these, therefore, 1 can have nothing to say; 1 wish to address myself to those who have been supporters in more moderate plans of reform. What has been the great argument Which they have adduced io favour of county and against borough representation? First, they have said, that the representatives of counties must (except from accident) be persons of considerable property and Influence in the country, a security which you cannot have for borough representatives; secondly, that though many very opulent, respectable, ana independent members may be found amongst the representatives of close boroughs, yet that the situation in which they are placed in this House is very different from persons of the former description. County members, owing their elections to large bodies of men, must feel themselves dependent upon them for the continuation of their seats in this House, and are liable to be Influenced, in consequence, by the senti-bier.ts, feelings, and opinions of . those Whom they represent: these are the most weighty, arguments used by the moderate reformers m favour of what they have proposed. Those -who have opposed ail parliamentary reform have always urged, tfi^i no practical evil was experienced from the present state of the representation^ and that though in theory the inequality of our representation might bd pon$ide?ed as an objection, no grievance in Tact arose out of it: and a great and edehrated author, Mr. Burke, has this very uiequalitymighf hove the effect of making ns, what we are, and ought to be, a deliberative council and assembly, and not an assembly of deputies speaking only the sentiments of the districts by which they were elected. — Let us now see what is the plan of representation proposed for Ireland: 64* members out of 100 are to be elected by counties; two by Dublin; two by Cork; one by the university of Dublin; four of five by boroughs where popular elections prevail; the remainder by the principal (Owns, in many of which, however, the election is confined to a small number of persons. It appears, then, that three* fourths of the representatives from Ireland at least will be elected in such a manner as to meet the ideas of every moderate reformer, by securing the election of per* sons who are of the greatest property and independence in that kingdom, and Who will be chosen by large bodies of men. and consequently subject to popular influence and control: I leave it, therefore, to the House to determine, whether it is not rather to be apprehended that thib measure will have the effect of adding to the influence of the people in the constitution, and not to that of the crown. I agree that the influence of the crown ought certainly to be kept within bounds; but I never yet heard any person assert in this House, that, to a certain extent* it was not necessary: the hon. gentleman has stated, that he should have been satisfied with the constitution as it subsisted during the first fifty years of the century"; yet, during more than twenty of those years, a ministry were in possession of power, who, whether justly or not I will not pretend to say, have been stigmatized more than any other for having introduced a complete system of corruption, and for haying increased the influence of the crown, to the prejudice of the rights and privileges of this House: end yet thia government was opposed by the ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- conduct of this House, with the knowledge of its character, and the proofs of its wisdom, to leave it, in other respects, constituted as it is, and to take our chunce of the inconvenience of an increase of our numbers, rather than make an alteration so complicated as that which the hon. gentleman nas proposed. I am not surprised that the zealots for parliamentary reform should take this opportunity to make a motion in its favour $ but I think that this very measure of union will be considered* by those who are friends to reform only on moderate principles, as a ground for renouncing or suspending their opinion 5. and I am perfectly convinced, that every person who entertains the same sentiment* with me upon the subject of reform, and who considers the great benefits. which the country enjoys under tho constitution of parliament as established at present* will feel it desirable that the change winch must be made in our constitution on this occasion should be no . greater than is indispensably necessary. The hon. gentleman is food of talking of the constitution of the country as it stood at the Revolution. Sir, the principles of that glorious event I admire and adore. I admire them not only for the vigour, the firmness, and the spirit which our ancestors displayed in going the length they did, but for the prudence, the wisdom, and the caution they evinced in not going farther. The principles of the Revolution have been brought forward in defence of general resistance: our ancestors, however, were cautious that those measures should not be adduced in justification of any but such an extreme case as that of the Revolution itself. They endeavoured to word the famous resolution by which the Throne was declared to be vacant, in such a manner as to make it no precedent for future ages. They showed in the whole of their conduct on that memorable occasion, that the case before them was that which alone occupied their attention, and that their object was to reform practical grievances, and not to lay a foundation for dangerous speculative improvements. The hon. gentleman says, that he is &atisfied with the constitution as it stood at the Revolution. Does he think, 1 would ask, that the influence of the people was one-tenth part so great then as it is at present ? I do not mean to trace the progress of the constitution from distant periods $ but we all know that the powers of parliament were, in former times, rather occasional than permanent; and I think it will be allowed, that it is only since the Revolution that this House has become a constantly operative and constituent part of the government. It was the opinion of a very great and wise man who formerly filled the chair which you now fill with s9 much honour to yourself and advantage to this House and the country, I say it 113} respecting a Union with . A.D. 1800. £114 was the opinion'of Mr. Onslow, whose si* tuatfen ‘peculiarly enabled him to focm a. cot tee*end ini partial judgment on the subject, that the Septennial act, however objectionable it had been in principle, had tended most materially to increase the power of the House of Commons in the constitution. If the power of the House of Commons has increased, the influence of the people over the House of Commons has not increased in'a less proportion; this influence has increased from many causes, which are accidental; from the general diffusion of wealth and knowledge* and from the facility of communication between the most distant parts of the country: but it has increased very peculiarly of late years, from causes to which, on any other occasion, 1 could not very regularly allude, from the doors of this House being open/to the people, and from the constant publication of your debates. These last circumstances have had the effect of making the people parties, as it were, to all the measures of parliament, even before they are decided, in a degree and to an extent which many wise men have thought objectionable. If the bon. gentl ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- indeed, from the description of persons who would probably constitute the 100 new members from Ireland, there was a chance of such a number of placemen as might influence the number to be finally settled, it might be necessary to use some precaution; but when it was known that the number would be too small to excite such apprehension, he thought it was due ts delicacy to reject all guard whatever. It was merely te meet the present situation, that the proportion was struck, and on this ground it bad. his approbation. The population of Ireland was double that of Scotland, and therefore the .proportion of the members in the present instance was right; Mil [is * but, frrthcrtbe contribution of Ireland was mare than: double; and as these two points combined formed the basis of the proportion) dt would be found to corne as sear the truthas possible. . Mr. Harrison expressed bia fears that when these 20 Irish members came over, with their places'bn their backs, some of the remainder of the 100 might procure a share of .those - latent offices which were said* that night to be compatible with a seat ia that House. Now; whether these 1001 were to be limited to 20 placemen among them, or whether that number might not be increased to any extent by the grant of places here were questions which he wished to have- decided. In the latter event, he thought this body of 100 members would.be the channel through which would flow the destruction of the country and the constitution. . i r< Mr. Pittamd, that it coaid not be »up-posed but that, when 100 members came from Ireland; they would, like every other member of; foe united parliament, be eligible to any office which could be held by any member, it was of the essence of parliamentary representation, that all its members should be equally capable of being nominated i to any office by the crown which a member of parliament may hold. As to4h» subject of close boroughs, be never considered them, either in theory or practice; a retd grievance in this country; still less did be think so. of the state of parliamentary representation in Ireland; the selection, however, upon that subject, rested with. die parliament of Ireland, tie considered; the nature of the place to be represented as a point of more importance than, the mode of election: for he hoped it was not to be understood that the members of .a close .borough were indifferent to the local interest of their constituents^ any more than they are careless of the general interest of their country; there were abundant instances of the representatives of such boroughs being careful of both, and of showing themselves as careful of the particular interest, of the place they represented, as the members who were returned for any of those boroughs which were vulgarly called, pot-wallopings batbughr, and which; under all the openness oftbeiretection, were often more .liable to rational-objection than the dase< boroughs. With regard to Ireland, of those; boroughs* which were, to-be retained there were not; above four or five that were dote# On the subject of bishops from Ireland, whonibtrhon. friend had jocularly called' " itinerant bishops’* he begged leave to translate die wend «itinerant1’. into travelling, ’’ and then it would follow, that an Irish ibishap coming to London, was no; mote am; itinerant bishop than the bishop of Dorham was an itinerant bishop; and as to the rotation, it appeared to him to rbe most favourable to the local purposes for whidh. it wa* intended* ... i . .. Mr* Buxton was/not apprehensive that the measure would augment the influence of the; crown; he was rather inclined to think it would throw an additional weight into the democratic part of the constitution. '* I. ' !l " ' General Walpole said, it had .been stated by lord Castlereagh; that it was. in: contemplation to make a pecuniary compensation to those who might be supposed to sustain any loss by the disfranchisement of the boroughs in Ireland.:He wished to know from what fu ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ight be elected to 6enre for Great Britain; of which he cOuldi have hot little or no knowledge; and not for Ireland, with whose interest be must necessarily be well acquainted. Thus an immense number of Irish peers would neglect their own country, ana spend all-their time in Britain, endeavouring to cultivate a parliamentary interest, and to find a way into the imperial House of Commons. As no 129} 40 GEORGE III. Debate m other road to inch distmetion was epsft to them, this would be the inevitable consequence; end thee woeld* the Ifst of ah* aentees be considerably increased. Mr. Grey's amendment was negatived. After which the fourth resolution was agreed to * April 98. A considerable number of petitions were presented by Mr. Wilber* force, Mr. Laseelles, and other members, •gainet the*resolution which went toper-acts die exportarion of British wool The peritfons were referred to the committee a* the hi beta Message respecting an tmiew with Ireland. The House haring resolved itself into the said committee, Mr* Low wee heard at the bar in behalf of the petitioners, and a number of witnesses were examined * April99. Farther witnesses wore exa-nriaad; after Which Mr. Plume* summed up. the evidence m behalf of the petitioners. April 80. Hie House went again into the Committee, when* the fifth end eighth Resolution* were proposed by Mr. Pitt, and egi*e equal importance* with the'wool-lew manufeotory of tins covutryi There wasavivalship. between, them, notofran invidiouv bet of: ai friendly aatarm In 1785; . he had, at the bar of the Haase; expressed* his'foarsof the cottonmanufactures of: Ireland interfacing: wstlrthie He Gemmas* dn the JflhgV Message [194 country, from* tho eiveumstatree of tho low price of labour ihIreland. He equally deprecated each interference with respect to the woollen manufactory; he considered it ae likely to - destroy the good effects of a union.' He had hoped that it would be the means of bringing tho two countries together by a deser connexion, of producing an advantageous co-operation between the manufacturers, and of rendering the manufactures of each country cheaper, and the supply more permanent; but he saw prejudices in the way. This country, aware that the low price of labour in Ireland was favourable to* die exertions of industry was apprehensive that) by the fatrodbetion or machinery to -assist that industry, Ireland would outvie us in our own manufactures $ while Ireland, on the contrary, was apprehensive of an intercourse with England* That app vehension had unhappily been increased by an expression of a member of parliament in that country, Mr. Beres-ford, who had asserted, that a weak country always stood i» need of protection against a rich one* Nothing could be more fallacious than snob an observation. It wee like a poor family shutting the door against a rich and benevolent man who came to their relief. England was in want of no aid to enable her to secure her independence; itr therefore could not be supposed that riie was actuated by selfish considerations. He should have hoped that the union would have been adopted on terms reciproca ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ainst permitting the exportation of the raw material, the probability of an increased de^ mand for the manufactures on the termination of the war, The question then re* solved itself into this, Whether, with our manufactures in a state of unprecedented prosperity, a prosperity which had in* creased, and was likely to increase, wc would not consent to communicate a part of our advantages to a kingdom with which we were about to effect a complete union ? The next question was with regard to the propriety of permiuing 1373. *• fespeettiigii Umon wtk Ireland. - A.D. 1800. [138 * the free communication of a raw material from one port of an united kingdom to another. As a general principle this had not been denied; but his hon. friend had stated that it was applied only'to this article of wool; this statement, however, was not correct, for the principle was not applied to the article of wool alone: the policy which governed all these articles was, to make the intercourse between the two countries, with respect to raw materials, and the whole of the trade between the united kingdoms, as free as possible, under all the circumstances of the case, to carry this principle into full effect; but every effort had been used to make the exceptions to it aa few in number, as small m extent, and as short in duration as possible. The ground upon which these exceptions were admitted was, to prevent any sudden shock to capital vested in trade, which might arise from the permission of an immediate and j complete freedom of intercourse between the two countries. It was upon this ground that he had stated, on a former night, that, although on the first view of the subject it might be natu-*al to suppose that in the event of an union it would be desirable that each country should be permitted to manufacture that which it found most convenient, yet that could not be carried to its full extent, because such a sudden freedom of intercourse might in certain cases injure the capital vested in particular manufactures. But though the necessity of some temporary restraint was dear, as applied to manufactures, it was by no means so when applied to the raw material. Now, with respect to the general equity of the principle: as to its effect upon manufactures, it had been considered as a doubtful question whether permitting the free exportation of wool from this to other countries would not be beneficial to the landed and to the commercial interest. . Upon this point he wished to give no opinion, though it was one in favour of which much might be said; but when: he saw-that the manufactures of this country had risen to such an unprecedented state of prosperity by the adoption of a contrary system, he certainly would notj upon any speculative reasoning, consent to disturb it, as far as related to foreign countries. If, however, it was a^foabtful point whether the free exportation of our wool would not be advantageous to our manufactures* could it be contended, that it was clear that they would be ruined by permitting its expectation to Ireland ? Had it been fotmd to be so in the case of Scotland ? . 1800. [170 %ud population. It was/ however, high time that something should be done to alleviate the miseries of the bare footed, half-starved peasants of Ireland. In many ports, thousands of acres of land were appropriated to pasture, by persons whose capacity was so great, that they would hardly allow a poor peasant a single acre fora potatoe garden: nay, they dealt out the miserable scraps of land by ounces and half ounces. His lordship expressed his earnest wish that government might go as far as possible in acts of conciliation and liberality towards the people of Ireland; and he would make it is business, as often as an opportunity was afforded him, to tell them that their security, their prosperity, and their happiness depended on a close and friendly connexion with Great Britain. The Ean of Liverpool said, that the motion related to a subject which involved a complexity of considerations and interests. It ought, therefore, not to be introduced collaterally, but to be met directly, with the aid of the various information t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and wrong. If p&rlia* men tary reform be dangerous, this new system must be so, for it certainly goes far beyond the most incoherent dream, or wildest frenzy of the most enthusiastic reformer. The mixture and confusion of all orders of the state, is an avowal of the principles of Jacobinical reform, and will enable the enemies of our form of government to argue from the present change, an admission that a distinct here* ditary branch is not essential to the freedom of the country, and encourage them to force the new doctrine into complete effect, by abolishing all hereditary distinctions as invidious, and declared useless by the present reform, and substitute one popular assembly, elected from all classes of the community, reduced to one state of equality; how long monarchy will survive such change time may show; but it may be reasonably doubted whether a monarchy can be limited by, or exist with one popular elective assembly, unbalanced by another of hereditary aristocratic interests. The collision of powers and interests so widely distinct as monarchical and popular, will probably soon produce the destruction of one or the other. The crown has never been more powerful than since the period of the Revolution, when the present constitution was with jealous care revived and confirmed, and the encroaching prerogatives of the monarch reduced within legal bounds. The love and affection of the people for their limited government increased with its augmented value; and they have reposed in confidence on the powerful security derived from our constitution, and looked to the crown as an object of affection, no longer of fear and jealousy: all that tends to weaken their attachment and reliance on this security must revive their jealousy and diminish the real power and security of the crown. The indifference marked at this time to the constitution of the country, which is openly treated as an old prejudice or the idle dream of a visionary brain, will soon place us in such a distempered and irritable state, that nothing out a dangerous and hazardous fever will extricate us: ages of trouble may succeed the age we live in, to force the recovery of our mortgaged security, which has for the last century cemented the interest of the crown and people. His lordship, can* eluded with moving to leave out the wholes. of the proposition. The Earl of Kinnoul spoke in the o warmest terms of the measure of an unions, generally considered. He had not the smallest doubt but that it would prove j source of the greatest advantage to both* < countries, by consolidating the strength of the empire. He gratefully acknowledged^ the increased prosperity which Scotland^: had enjoyed in consequence of the union, * but he thought the suffering, the peers of Ireland once chosen to sit in that House, to hold their seats for life, a great improvement over that part of the union of Scot- % land, by which the Scotch peers were only to sit for a temporary period, and to go back at the end of each parliament to a new election. The question under consideration certainly appeared to him to bet a violent infringement of the constitution. The Earl of Romney said, he had in the* committee divided for the resolution as it stood, but from what he had that day heard, he really thought the danger to the constitution so great, that unless hi» noble relation would assure him that the parliament of Ireland deemed the proposition absolutely necessary, and would not agree to the union without it stood a part of the article, he was inclined to vote for the amendment. Lord Grenville said, that, in the formation of so great a measure as the union, it was impossible to proceed a single step without trenching upon the constitution v that scarcely any legislative measure could be accomplished without in some > degree violating the constitution; how- .* ever, the true policy was, to violate it in no greater extent than absolute necessity required. In the present case, the union with Scotland was ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- his place on Monday; which was negatived. — Lord Hawkesbury then moved, that the bill do pass. Dr. Laurence objected to the motion. It would be a most indecent and a most unparliamentary proceeding. Three voices were already disallowed. Another stood impeached. The question of the third reading had been carried only by four, and these gentlemen formed part of the division. He had very serious doubts in his own mind on the propriety of their voting on the principle: it was a private bill, not a public measure. The public benefit was professed indeed, but that was highly problematical. The whole conduct of the promoters of the bill was most extraordinary. He would therefore move, That the debate be adjourned till Monday." The question being put, the House divided: Tellers. [Mr, Sheridan - - Mr. Tierney Noes $Mr* Buxton - W0E iMr. Bragge - - So it passed in the negative, was then passed, and sent up Lords, where, upon its second reading on the 21st, and also in its subsequent stages, it was warmly supported by the earl of Liverpool and the Lord Chancellor, and opposed] by the earl of Westmorland, the duke of Clarence, earl Stanhope, and lord Hobart. Debate on Sir Francis BMotion respecting the State and Management of j digence. Cold Bath Fields Prison.] July 22. Sir Francis Burdelt rose to move for aa inquiry into the economy of the House of Correction in Cold-Bath-fields. He said, be had thought it would not been necessary for him to take up one minute of the time of the House, at : \ The to 17 95 bill the the papers which had been laid before them contained such incontrovertible proofs that the grossest abuses had been committed, and as every one testified an eager desire to have the affair sifted to the bottom. From some conversation, however, which he had lately had, he had become less confident. He was told, that unless a very strong case of abuse was made out: unless it could be proved that the magistrates bad shown backwardness to redress the grievances complained of to them, and that applications to the inferior courts would be ineffectual^ it would be improper for the House to in* terfere. Even these gentlemen, however, he hoped to convince of the necessity of immediate interference. The existences of numerous and flagrant abuses was clearly demonstrated by the papers on the table, as was likewise the misconduct of the magistrates. It was stated, in the report of the grand jury, that the prisoners hadnot beddingenough for the summer season; what, then, must be the wretchedness of their situation in winter, shut up in a damp cell, without even a fire-place ? To this abode of misery were many sent be* fore they were convicted, and even some not charged with a crime. The case of Mary Rich was too shocking to be described. From the unparalleled barbarity of her keepers, she had even become incapable of the purpose for which she was confined, and was unable to give evidence against the man who had attempted to ravish her. The manner in which these proceedings were justified, added to their enormity. She lay naked, because her only rug had been taken to cover a wortian in labour she was stated to be a worthless girl, and te have said to a nurse, that she never would have complained if the gentleman had given her the money he had promised. But was this nurse to be believed, who was one of the double-allowance prisoners, whom the governor used well, that he might maltreat the rest with impunity ? Even if the poor child was really unprincipled, was this any excuse for the barbarities she had experienced? "She was poor, and her parents in extreme irr-So, poverty was a reason for inflicting cruelty upon the person it weighed down. The justices concluded their report by saying, that upon the whole, Mary Rich appeared to them to have been properly treated during her confinement. Did not this circumstance afford a damning proof of the negligence Dig y «53 and Management of Cold Bath Fields . A.D. 1800. [466 opdi insensibility of the magistrates? Such w^s the profligacy, such the want of Reeling, end the sycophancy of the gaol committee, that shocking, to relate, twelve magistrates ha«l been found venal enough to return a verdict, that Mary Rich, a prosecutrix as she was, and not a criminal, had been duly and properly treated. A scene of iniquity hardly to be paralleled was declared by twelve magistrates to be innocent, and not to attach the smallest blame to its author! They had examined Mr. Aris; but was he the proper person to examine concerning his own atrocities, or the felony committed by his son I Why did they not examine the person from whom the silk handkerchief was stolen by the latter, and those who were eager to give evidence of similar abuses ? However, since they were of opinion, that there was nothing wrong in the case of Mary Rich, it was probable they would declare the conduct of the governor and his son to be immaculate. There certainly attached the highest degree of culpability to the conduct of the gaol committee. Nay, to such a degree did their negligence extend, that they disregarded even the explicit charges of the body of magistrates in general, who had expressly pointed o.ut certain articles of grievance, which the committee afterwards thought proper to scout, He regretted that the second report of the traverse jury had not been laid before the House, as it contained several facts of the greatest importance; and he regretted this the more as he now found that it might have been icalled for, the greatest regard being had he never was produced to them, An-.other unfortunate man, named Cheneau, '4 fourth within the same period of tirae^ But in Ireland, where the means of calculation for this purpose have been more serviceable even than in England, the public opinion on the question, as applied: to that country, is nevertheless still flue- tuating to a very considerable extent. It* is plain therefore, that all these inquiries and estimates, proceeding without authority, upon such imperfect data, have ter- minated (as might be expected) in no* thing but unsatisfactory conjecture; and different persons reasoning even upon the same data, continue to give us very contradictory results. — This being so, it remains for us to decide what should be done by us. Unquestionably, in ray opinion, we are called upon, by every motive of general policy, and still more by the urgent pressure of our present circumstances, to do as other great nations have done, and substitute ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- against him by the grand jury; and tost, eager toshow his respect to the laws, he surrendered himr salt, was arraigned, and for want of evi* deoce discharged. That he was, sgaio taken up, in consequence of Jealous, the Bow-street officer, declaring, that theim strument supposed to have beep intended against his majesty’s life had been Jounj io his hopse* That the officer told th? petitioner's mother, she. would never ^ey him out of prison ggaiq tillhe. went to the gallows; theefect of wUckdecft^pd waa, that she, took, tp her bed^ and ffied in two* months; thgt.tlm .pewn^. w famuli 743} 41 GEORGE III. Debate in the Commons on 4ht [744 and in that condition confined to i damp room kithe Cold-bath-fields prison, where his rest was disturbed night and day, by watchmen, at stated periods, demanding whether he was secure, and insisting upon his answering them. The petition then entered into a justification of the petitioner’s motives for becoming one of the London Corresponding Society; — then proceeded to impeach' the character of Upton, the informer against him, and spoke fn disrespectful terms of the conduct of the privy council towards him: it also stated, that he had been confined for three years in Reading gaol; and concluded by praying that his case might be inquired into by the House." Mr. Pitt said, that some part of the petition was so far from being connected with the petitioner’s complaint, that it was nothing more than a political essay, in the course of which he had thought proper to censure the conduct of government. The subject of the petition had no application to the general principle on which was founded the propriety of suspending the Habeas Corpus act. As to the declaration of his innocence, it could not be taken for granted. If, during his confinement, he had not been properly treated, that would very properly be the subject of inquiry; but the propriety of a general law for the suspension of the Habeas Corpus act, could not be affected by the grievance of any individual. He thought the petition ought not to lie on the table. Mr. Grey said, he did not think it consistent with his duty to decline presenting the petition, especially as there was nothing informal in it. No occasion could be more opportune, since it complained, that, on account of the continued suspension of the Habeas Corpus, the petitioner had lingered nearly three years in prison, without the hope of being brought to trial. Sir W. Pulteneythought it would be for the honour of the House to make inquiry into the matters stated in the petition. This inquiry might be made in a secret committee; and if it should appear that this man had stated falsehoods, they would he exposed, and a stop thereby put to calumnies. The Attorney General said, that the petition contained strong reflections on his majesty's privy council, and stated a variety of matter extraneous to the petition itself. If it had been confined to personal hardships, he should have hod no objection to its being laid on the table; but the reflection1 which it^coni tained was indecent in itself, and unfounded. He therefore thought that, to prevent petitions of this nature from being presented, it would be better to ‘ reject the present one. ’ Mr. Jolliffe6aid, that the petition con- tained nothing that was in itself indecent or improper. If it was rejected, no agj grieved person could ever expect relief* He would divide the House on the subject. Mr. Simeon said, that it was incOfH sistent with the dignity of the House to' suffer the petitioner to state, that the person who gave information against hint was a perjured wretch. This was’ the grossest libel on an individual that he had ever heard. As the petition was worded, he should vote for its rejection. Mr. Tierney admitted, that if any resolution had been moved upon the petition; it might have been objectionable; but all that was asked was, that it should lie on the table. No man complaining of such hardships, could use any other tha ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- r the sake of security/' But allowing, for the sake of argument, that the original suspension was necessary, and had been beneficial, this was no reason for continuing it, when the evil which it was intended to meet no longer existed. For what would this reasoning tend to ? It would be the physician saying to his patient, You were in a state of violent disease; I gave you a violent medicine to cure you; its efficacy is proved; you are cured; therefore you must take a double dose of the same medicine." — It was perhaps difficult to determine what combination of circumstances ought to authorize a measure like this; but certain it was, that our ancestors had never thought general assertions of danger any reason for its adoption. They admitted it only either when there was strong, clear, and decisive evidence of a conspiracy among a large body of men, among whom individuals could not be eanvicted and brought to punishment without giving the alarm to the rest, and allowing them an opportunity to conceahtheir crimes, or escape th* reach of law; or, when some grand conspiracy actually did exist which it might be difficult to counteract by the general effect of the national policy. These were the only cases in which oar ancestors had thought it expedient to suspend the operation of that invaluable privilege which gave security to all their rights. Ministers had now, however, thought it expedient to renounce this long established constitutional ground. They had chosen to publish a new doctrine; and instead of a striking and specific case of necessity, had risked the measure on au undefined avowal of danger. Ministers seemed to argue, that because the measure had, under certain circumstances, been productive of good, it was therefore to be continued when those circumstances had ceased to operate. He was somewhat at a loss to understand what was the real meaning of such language. Was it really their object, that all the ancient laws, which gave security and permanence to the liberty of the subject, that all the wise regulations of our ancestors to check the influence of the crown, should for ever be suspended, and that on their ruins should be established a regular system of oppression and despotism I If these were in reality their principles, it was tantamount to saying to the people of England, that their constitution was never to be restored. — That discontents did exist to a certain extent was not to be denied; that there might be some individuals who, nolwith?.tanding the scenes of anarchy which a neighbouring county had displayed, might entertain a wish to overthrow the constituted authorities, was not impossible. He believed that never was there a country in which such discontents did not exist; in which some factious spirits were not to be found. But allowing that in this country discontents did exist to a certain degree, the true question for their lordships determination was, whether this partial, evil* arising out of the best privilege of human nature, was to sanction a measure which superseded the exercise of all those rights, which had for ages distinguished the ior habitants of this favourite land£~But in considering this subject, it was farther important to contrast not merely the cqor stitutional ground of a bill like the present, with the ground adopted /by ministers, but also the use which was made oft' power which it placed in their f had never been the practice in the J tiroes Haf , tha cons|tj tMj 41 GEfcftGfe itl. '• bcUleU rie (?& po^F'Ranted to keifce 'h*nd detftiA s6df-tlous person *, except when tfiere was an fhtention to bring to trial, * or when thfe ftpprHtdnsfdri was preceded by dn accusation on oath.* But what had been the Use which ministers had made of their discretionary "power? Had there ever been displayed ort their part a determination to brmg those individuals to open trial? ThCy had detained them nearly three year&' without the form of accusation, ’dud recording to the still existing statutes, they could not legally h ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is the great master treason against the crowd, the nobility, and the whole Commons of the realm." — Mr. Nicholls said, dud, as far as regarded hit argument^ he was willing to consider the earl of But* as a Tory, and John Home Tooke as a Jacobin; the first as most solicitous for the prerogatives of the crpWn, the latter as most anxious for the right of the people. What is the inference? It is this: that those who are most solicitous for the prerogatives of the crown, and those who are most solicitous for the rights of the people, concur in opinio *, that this system of great families ought to be destroyed. Peers usurp, from the corporations of the commonalty, the nomination to seats in parliament. What is the consequence ? In violation of the law, by the votes of their dependants in the House of Commons, they impose taxes on the people: In violation of every principle of justice, they unite accusatorial with judicial powers: and it was seen in the memorable impeachment of Mr. Hastings, that these great peers had the hardiness to give a vote of condemnation on that accusation, winch, through their agents in the Home of Commons, they had themselves procured to be preferred. The House of Commons exercised no judicial functions, except bn matters of election; but in private bills for canals or inclosures, rights of property frequently came in question. What chance had the private man, when his interests clashed with those of the peer proprietor of boroughs ? The private man had but feeble means to influence members of the House of Commons to attend and protect his rights. The great usurping oligarch* connected with other oligarchs, frequently by bloody bat always from being of the same privileged order, and from having a common' interest in the support of their system, *-could send down, not his own squadronooIy, bpt die 951] Intof&ttictaf &0tds\tfJh4imc*lt :A.D. 1800. ; h equhdrwDstof.hw eiJnfederatea, *rth*s right hn voften trafiapjed down, — But these weTe little grievances, compared to, that which we now Buffwed, — he meant the war* It was this system of great semi-4aee which. occasioned a perseverance in the war. The great usurping proprietors tOf boroughs were fearful, that, when peace, was re-established, the people of England might inquire into the right of ipeera to nominate representatives of the -commonalty; that they might calculate the calamitous effects of the war; that the people might co-operate with the Jcrown, to prevent similar calamities from , being, again inflicted. They saw that in iPrance tlmpredominant sentiment of the people bad been, not equality of rank, Jmt equality of condition: In other words, to deprive certain of their fellow-subjects of power which they had usurped; for, -though nobility was established by law in Prance, that inequality of condition which debases the people was of a late origin. iHence it arises, that the partisans of the aystem of great families proclaim that no . peace is desirable, except it is accompanied with the re-establishment of the •ancient regime of France. They see the people perishing from famine, the conse-qoeoce of the war, and of their attempt to Jamish France: they see paper money iabout to be substituted in the place of jjgold. The examples of America and; France both show us that the ineyitable consequence of the complete substitution s hoo- member (Mr. Jones) " that they j; ride on She popularity of their sovereign/ ’ •nThetassertion is true; had they stated to the people, " the, re-establishment of fijmbbaae ic Franc? is necessary for the (preservat ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- prehended that they would enter into machi- 775] 41 GEORGE III. Debate in the Larde on the Alien Bill. [776 nations to subvert that government which they disliked. He would not go into a minute examination how far the fair principles of the Bill had been carried into effect; but he wished to ask, whether it had not been used to serve private and even family purposes ? He asked them, whether its operation had been confined to the fair spirit and meaning of the legislature, to guard only against political evils i Had they not converted it to such purposes against some unfortunate foreigners, as was used to be done by lettres de cachet under the old government of France ? He objected to that part of the bill which enabled ministers to send any person out of the country, on the ground that it might be the means of great cruelty and oppression, especially as many unfortunate emigrants had no country to which they could return. Persecution, and even death, awaited them at home, and no other nation would receive them. There was also another part of the bill to which he equally objected; it was that which enabled ministers to confine any foreigner whom they were pleased to suspect of mal-practices. By this part, they had the same power of the persons of foreigners as they had over our own country men by the suspension of the Habeas Corpus act, and he did not know of any principle of justice or policy by which they could confine a foreigner in this country, who had done nothing to which the laws attached criminality: if he had done any thing of that sort, the law was strong enough to punish him. By the provisions of the bill many persons were also subjected to be sent out of the country, who, in sound policy, ought to be considered as domesticated, and as naturalized persons, who had long resided here, who were married to English women, and had children born under the allegiance of our state. These were as much exposed as any others; this he considered as an additional grievance. This also he considered as much aggravated, seeing that ail these persons were liable to suspicion, not merely from ministers, but were subjected to malignant information, and exposed to all the bad passions of men. He did not mean to accuse ministers of acting from personal motives against any who might have become victims of this hill, and been unwarrantably banished these kingdoms; but he asked, had the informations against them been'sufficieutiy examined into; or had the motives of their accusers been sufficiently sifted ? There had been a third secretary of state created; and though the business of that office was trifling in its nature, compared with the other departments, yet it found sufficient employ under this bill. When he considered the grounds upon which the bill was originally introduced, and examined the evils it pretended to guard against, he could not but consider the measure as unnecessary. When he saw the manner in which it had been executed, and considered the extensive and oppressive powers with which it armed government, he must oppose its further progress. Lord Grenville said, that the noble lord had entirely mistaken the history, policy, and tendency of the measure. The noble lord supposed it to be directed against the people of France in particular; and that consideration alone ought to furnish the noble lord with an answer to a considerable part of his argument. With respect to the people of France, it was right to afford that protection to them which this country had done in so eminent a degree during their distress. But without this bill, it would have been impossible to have done so; since, without it, there would have been no power of discriminating between the unfortunate and the evil-disposed. But it was not merely from tba people of France that we had to apprehend danger. Europe was-divided m its political opinions, and was as much agitated as it had ever been formerly upon its religious sentiments; and it became us to guard agai ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- not to have a greater effect upon their own representatives than upon every other member. There are, undoubtedly, occasions on which gentlemen who represent large and populous places, instead of receiving instruction from their constituents, will find themselves enabled to convey to them much useful information, and to correct their errors. — I know, Sir, that in many populous places the spirit of Jacobinism, taking advantage of the pressure of hunger, as it does of every thing, has, with unwearied activity, endeavoured to increase the mischief. I know too, that there has been a disposition to inculcate the mischievous idea, that it was in the power of parliament to make every defi- ciency disappear — a deficiency arising principally from a succession of unfavourable seasons, whatever other causes may have contributed to it — and at once to produce abundance and cheapness. I know that many people, in suggesting remedies for the evil, have talked about a limitation of price, and have hinted at the propriety of establishing a maximum upon corn. — Now, it is evident that populous places would be the first to feel the mischief arising from the adoption of so pernicious a doctrine. It is well known, that large manufacturing districts do not grow a quantity of corn sufficient for the consumption of their numerous population; and it is equally clear, that the adoption of such a measure would necessarily put an end to transportation of grain from places where the quantity grown is greater, and where the consumption is less. The hon. gentleman must, I know, feel that this observation applies to the place which he represents, and to other places of a similar description; and I trust he will be convinced, that even alluding to such a measure must have an effect directly the reverse of that which we all wish to attain — I mean that of remedying, as far as we can, this temporary distress, and of quieting the minds of the people. — That the present high price of provisions is a grievance, no man will be disposed to deny; but how is that grievance to be remedied ? Is it by producing a cheapness that is artificial? Such a measure, though it might afford a momentary consolation, by procuring a temporary relief, would inevitably produce consequences much more fatal than any that could ensue even from an artificial dearness; because that which in the period of scarcity leads to indiscreet consumption must end in final ruin. We must not forget, Sir, that our duty upon this occasion is not confined to effecting a reduction of price: there is also another consideration, of which we must not for a moment lose sight, and that is, the insuring a permanent supply; but I believe that whoever considers this subject maturely, will find that these two objects are in union with each other. — Sir, the measures which the committee have proposed for our consideration are by no means all which they will have to propose. The object to which they first directed their attention, was that of insuring a sufficiency of supply; and by so doing, they have taken the most effectual means, con- 791] 41 GEORGE III. Further Proceedings of the Common* [792 sistent with prudence and safety, of reducing the price. Let me ask, what are the means of reducing the price of any article ? If the increase of price depends on the demand being greater than the supply, it naturally follows, that our first object, if we can accomplish it is, to increase the supply and diminish the demand. Parliament did immediately (because it was a point that required no consideration) adopt measures for augmenting as much as possible the supply. The committee hare stated the grounds upon which we can form hopes of further relief upon this point; ana, as another inode of increasing the supply, they have recommended measures for restraining consumption unnecessary for the public subsistence. The measures I allude to are those of stopping the distilleries, and prohibiting the manufacture of starch. They have also poioted out many articles of cheap and wholesome food, wh ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- very advancement of the rates, causes an almost proportiortate deficiency in the receipts, by producing, in a short time, an absolute necessity for allowing a material increase in the exemptions. Your Committee, in proceeding to consider the remedy for the evil which they have stated, have adverted to a clause in the act of the 43rd year of the reign of queen Elizabeth, intituled, An Act for the Relief of the Poor; " by which it is enacted, that u if the justices, " charged with the execution of that act, shall " perceive that the inhabitants of any parish are not able to levy among themselves sufficient sums of money for the purposes of the act, that then two justices may tax, rate, and assess, as aforesaid, any other of other parishes, or out of any parish within the hundred where the said parish is, to pay such gum and sums of money to the churchwardens and overseers of the said poor parish, for the said purposes, as "the said justices shall think fit; and if the said hundred shall not be thought by the said justices, able and fit to relieve the said Several parishes, not able to provide for themselves as aforesaid, then the justices of peace, at their general quarter sessions, or the greater number of them, shall rate and assess, as aforesaid, [3UJ £I9J 41 GEORGE III. Fifth Report of Iht Common* Committee [8tO any other of other parishes, or out of any parish within the said county, for the purposes aforesaid, as in their discretion shall seem fit." This clause, when acted upon, as it has been in some instances, is understood to have led to great litigation between parishes, and to have failed of much of its intended effect; and the mode of carrying it into execution, appears to your Committee to be particularly ill calculated to provide a remedy for the evil which they have described. Though it affords a clear proof of the general intention of the legislature in this respect, it shows, that it was not the purpose of parliament that parishes burthened in a particular manner with the poor, should be so far insulated from all others, as never to call upon them for relief; and that even whole counties were considered as liable, if necessary, to be charged with additional poor-rates, in order to ease contiguous parishes which were alike burthened. But in respect to the manner of apportioning the new burthen, it gives much more discretion to the magistrates than they can be supposed desirous of exercising; while also (leaving evidently out of its contemplation the case of a few adjacent parishes, all equally disabled from supporting their poor, through their contiguity to the metropolis) it directs the levying of the auxiliary rate only in a part of that particular hundred, which comprehends the parish or parishes in distress; except, indeed, that when such whole hundred shall have been rendered in the same degree incapable of affording further support or the poor, direction is then given to raise the whole sum that is necessary, arbitrarily, in any part of the same county. But, however defective this clause in the act of Elizabeth may be, the general principle of it is so equitable in itself, and is so easily rendered applicable to the case of over-burthened parishes adjoining to London, that your Committee are induced to express their very clear opinion of the expediency of so far following it, as to authorise the raising of some local fund for the purpose of casing the three parishes, of whose distress complaints have been made. The sum wanted, in order both to discharge a chief part of their present very oppressive debts, to relieve some of the more indigent housekeepers, now charged to the rates, and to provide, until the season of the next harvest, a fund for the support of the poor, that shall bear some proportion to the funds for that purpose, which are within the power of other parishes, will probably be between 20,000l. and 30, 0C0/. a sum so light when levied on the whole metropolis, and so evidently called for by the necessi ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- for as his abilities would enable him; to-accept it from any other motive* he should* deem not only reprehensible, but Criminal. That be had before filled the chair'with success* was to be attributed to the as-*’ sistance he had experienced' from thd' House. He could truly say, "that during* the course of twelve years, undOr ctf^ cumstances which had rendered 1h& charge of his duties more* peculiarly* arduous, hr had experienced nothing but* kindness from those who compOsOff -the-parliament'; he* was felly aware ‘«f thC pooeibility attaehed to Vhe^ritfcpaddn 8GS] 41 GEORGE III. The King's Speech on Opening the Session. [804 be eras persuaded* if he filled it, he should receive the same support with which he had ever been honoured. He should trespass no longer on the'time of the House: if it should be their determination to call upon him for such services as he was capable of performing, they might be assured that any commands they might lay upon him be should think it incumbent on bun to obey. 4 Mr. Wilberforce said, he rose to do justice to the motives which had induced the hon. gentlemen to propose Mr. Addington to that chair, which he had so long and so ably filled; but they bad, in one particular, omitted to pay that tribute to nis merits which he so justly was entitled to. He felt himself bound, therefore, on the part of his constituents, to discharge a debt of gratitude towards that gentleman. In detailing his services, reference had been made to past experience of those which were of a more public nature. It happened, though much appeared of his labours and services, yet much that he performed did not come abroad to public view. Every one who looked back to the whole of the period in which Mr. Addington had filled the chair of the House, knew the public duties of his office; but if they would at the same time consider the numerous private acts of parliament that bad passed, the manner in which such acts necessarily affected the property and the rights of private persons and bodies corporate, the various ramifications into which they must have extended in the course of the last twelve years, the indefatigable attention paid by that gentleman, that one party might not encroach upon the rights or privileges of another, the facility with which he bad promoted the interests of all concerned; if they would consider this, then they would know how to 6et a value upon his exertions in the discharge of those equally numerous, but less entertaining duties of his situation. With respect to other points, he was, perhaps, less competent to speak, because he could not discriminate between private feelings and public duty; but he thought they could not consult the interest of their constituents, or the dignity of the House, better than by placing the right hoo. gentleman in the Chair. Mr. Addington was then conducted to the Chair. He said he had to intreat the House to accept his most grateful acknowledgments for the high honour they had done him in placing him in the Chair, and above all for the manner in which that honour bad been conferred. He begged leave to assure them it had made a deep and lasting impression on his mind. ' Lord Hawfccshury congratulated the right hon. gentleman on his situation. If ever there was a period when it was necessary that the organ of the House of Commons should be known for has wisdom, moderation, diligence, and integrity, it was the present. He conceived it fortunate that the House had had the opportunity of selecting a gentleman whose talenta and parliamentary knowledge bad been matured by twelve years experience. The dignity, of the House was connected with that of the Chair; there was no person so proper in every respect, to fill it; and he was happy to find, that, whatever difference of opinion there might have been on other occasions, the House, in electing Mr. Addington to the chair, bad been unanimously actuated by the same sentiment. He concluded by moving an adjournment; which was agreed to. Qn the ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- issible' «o be freely conveyed, attd therefore* Contraband; If these pfe-pOsterous distinctions are admitted; the nWtt step will be, that we cannot take our enemy's gobds^-that the intercourse of merchants ought nor to be interrupted. Against Whom, then, are we to make waH'' Why, Wgam#t a metaphysical being critted'tfce state, a*if the 'state was’ any tfhfeng1 bot the aggregate of the people; dod We1 attack* their property frt order to reduce the resources of the state, Which derives alHtS vigour from them. Somtich for the learned professor’s sophistry ? He compares a neutral ship to a neUtffd schfir-raeter1; but how' does the eomp&rlsorf standi neutral character doe# not interfere With y6u; nor do Denmark and Sweden Whew they remain at home; bUt whett- emptoyed in transporting certain* goods to* onr* enemy, or in promoting their commerce/they contribute to the resources/ the ebOvenience, and accommodation of deffenemiefc, in such a1 way as is injurious tO Our interests; and we are justified itt^interhipfing them: the comps risen* therefore doer ribfc hold i — it is extremely absurd. - These arguments have no wovetiyt1 they have been often advahcedand3 asbfteri refuted and ridi* doled1; bat to the present’ day; So favour^ atde to-extravhgant doctrines, they Ore Urged1 With hrcfrOased violenee. 1 If it is riHowed/^hat we have a right to capture' the^ehomyVprbp^rty at all, 'why should tttot'tight‘bed one a way, and thd property bs^nrOteciedi'foiWWhiae it is fndlosed in a ptecw of 'W0bd-£ *GtOtiuS did1 not con- oeivw thai kny dbiibs could arise upon the ittttWmwtffttoftJ *»f *et< therefore f Will'not enter into anycomrsW-rsy with hlm! on that* subject 1* barb wilt say/ that rF such* cases dtf grievance »a&i my- lesmed friend ' men-ttoned hsd toasted* to ihcirtfoHot courts, thnmtriies^swMTbe redressed* by* an an-peat tO thi?proper'ttibunal, Bnd they had UtoaoBUsity ofbfiiu JWtiilsJCtearacterfoti stribliy^tjprtght tmd fair tl&cisron; ' buf whatever that decision might be, ito m&J fiori Wonld be Justified In arming in- schn1-sequence of the decree of art Admiralty court, withoutprevious application to thd state; by whom that court is appointed/ These cases, then, min’ form nepartof the cause which generated the present difference with the northern powers; the main purport of whose elaidi *H tO CStry1 enemy’s .goods, which their"*hase ^nd right to do by general law ot* pUrtfctiftfP treaty; and it* is U Claim which aims Uf Our maritime existence, arid of tturirse ftfc oUr national existence also.; To WOrikeri or to destroy that maritime superiority/ had long been the favourite object of French ambition•* they declare that thd power they have grasped will be insecure/ if they carntot accomplish* the destfucttoif of yoor naval ascendancy. — My learned friend lifts called toyour recbHeciioirthd conduct of queen r Elizabeth’and of Charles 2iid, and recommends their fore bearariceas examples for Imitation; bu# l ean see no parallelin the'circumstanced He also dwelt on the policy of oaf tninisM try in the year 1780. Wc now, however; feel the ill effects of that policy: a dirffHat1 compromise of our rights at tbfe period would, perhaps, expose us to some Stilt greater evil on a future day.1 Had the pretension of the armed neutrtdfty been resisted then, we should not? nbw be dire turbed by the repetition of If; but* fob circumstances of the country Were difl fferent. It was a maxim of that celebrated Statesman, John De Witt ', that nothing which was palpably unjust, sixfold, * unde* iny circumstances, be submitted tef and he was influenced by that obvlbifs pre* Cept of common sense, ’ that1 if aVnatveoM dures one insult, it will be repeated agahf and again, until at length' be may*bd obliged to resist, when circumstUrtoei shall render his resistance fecblfe *nd*dfl» effic ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I mean* the sum ef 200*000/. to the rink* ing fund* for the reduction of the debt; a sum at which, I trust, it will always J be ‘ continued. I have now, Sir; stated «)k the chargee which belong exclusively te’ England, making together 'the* sum df 6, 610,000l. The whole charge of the two countries for the service of the year will then amount to 42, 197,000/* which will be divided between the two countries thus: Great Britain; Mr its fifteen seven* teem ha of; the. joint*eXpeo»e> and thatee .975] 41 GEORGE III. Dm tkt Bm [970 sparges which belong separably to her, \frill Eat# to defray 37, 870,000l., and the cftharge falling upon Ireland will be acco ijU#gr y nlpqomo. duty, deducting, the ... i interest with which it.stands r, charged. 4, 260,000 i>uty .upon exports and iniT pottsu - 1, 250,000 ..Surplus of the consolidated , fund - 3, 300,000 To be provided by Ireland .... 4, 324,000 ’ Sum.not issued so^subsidies..«, 500,000 (Surplus of grants:60,000 * £16, 744,000 There remained then a sum of25, 500,000l. to he raised by way of loan. There was a rlvalahip between two great parties which should take the loan. They had taken it without premium or bonus, except the discount on prompt payment. The terms were 125 consols, valued at 70/. J.5*yr-50-15 reduced, value 20/. 5s. for every 100/. j, .The first tax proposed, for paying the 'interest of the loan/was an additional duty on tea above 2s. 6d. per pound, of 10 per jpept, a4, valorem, which he calculated would produce the sum of 30,000l. The next tax was on the article of paper, the 5resent doty on which he proposed to ouble: providing an exception, however, in favour, of paper-hangings, and glazed paper, used in. particular manufactures, and allowing a discount, to the full amount of the duty, on all paper used in the publication of diurnal prints. The produce of this tax he estimated at 130,000l. He proposed that the. drawback on the exportation of calicoes be taken off, and that the present duty of twopence-half-penny per yard, be advanced to threepence-halfpenny, which would amount to j55, dOO/*> making the total of the excise 586,000l. On the tax on timber, staves, and deals, he proposed an increase of one-third, which increase he estimated at 95,000 kThe export trade of pepper, £be whole of which was, in fact* in our bands, he also considered efropes article of .taxation* On all exports of every kind he proposed u4*fi sixpence per pound, which, d*n«aiPoleted, would produce 104,000l.; and ^on*ad articles consumed at borne a duty uf thseepeoce in the pnund* which he .estimated at 15,000k This increase of the 4mport or exports, and home consumption, might be expected to make up, together, the sum of 119,000l. An addition.of twenty-pence per cwt. on sugar, he expected to produce 166,000l. A duty on raisins would produce 10,000l.; and a duty on lead .120,000k — The next tax Mr. Pitt proposed was, an additional duty on horses of every description, not excepting even those employed in agriculture: though that on the latter would only be to a small amount. On every, horse employed in agriculture, he prdposed an Additional duty. of 4s. .for each, which would produce the sum of 136,000k On pleasure-horses, where only , one wax kept, an additional duty of 10s. for each, which would produce the sum of 170,000k j making the additional tax on horses, 306,000k — An increase of one-half of the existing stamp duty on all bills and notea, he estimated at 112,000k > To double the present duty on all policies of insurance in skipping transactions, would produce 145,000l. — On all deeds of conveyance of property, which bore, at present, a tax of 10s. per skin, he proposed to place an additional duty of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- idence, they will of consequence feel it their duty to accede to the present motion. But if, on the contrary, they think that the war has been impolitic in its conductand disastrous in its consequences — that the country, in* stead of being in a state of prosperity, »is now labouring under the extremity of distress — that the system pursued'by the old ministers, and to be adopted t by tha new, is subversive of all that is venerable in the British constitution, they will this night renounce a system of blind cowfi* dence, and accede to a motion whose sb* ject is constitutional inquiry t via.44 That this House will resolve itself into o committee of the whole House to take’into consideration the State of the Nation." r Mr. Dundae rose, and tsid*6ir; She hon. gentleman who has just sat down, has supported his motion by urging the necessity of enquiry into tW-j following particulars1st. The in efficient ttnd disastrous manner in which the preseat war has been conducted. 2dJy. The improper rejection of negotiations for pence at the-various times it*has:been io our.pwwevte negotiate, and particularly ot she eod.of< the campaign of 1799, when a dirootwffier 10711 41 GEORGE III. Debate on Motion for n [1072 was made by the first consul of France; nod again, at the period of a negotiation respecting an armistice, when it was in our power at the end of that negotiation, -to hare treated for a separate peace with France. Sdly. The unwarrantable conduct of the late government with regard to the northern powers, which has been productive of so formidable a confederacy against us. 4thly. The internal state of the country with regard to its failing re-eources, and its increasing distresses, manifested by the increase of poor-rates, and other unequivocal circumstances. -Sthly. The increased influence of the crown, not only from the increased taxation which the war has produced, but from the direct addition of power, by which the authority of the crown has been augmented, and the liberty of the subject encroached upon. 6thly. The state of Ireland, particularly as connected with the Catholics in that country; and. Lastly, The mysterious and unaccountable circumstances which have attended the resignation of the late, and the appointment of a new administration. Although the hon. member has stated these various points in a general and cursory manner, it is obvious that to examine each of them separately and minutely would require a length or time altogether incompatible with the attention I have any right to expect from the indulgence of the House. This great variety ot subjects forms of itself an insuperable objection to the motion, because it is perfectly in the power of the hon. gentleman, or any other member of the House to bring forward each of those points as distinct, separate propositions, in which form there would be room to examine bow justly ground had been laid for referring the subject to a committee of inquiry; but by proposing a general and indiscriminate inquiry, upon a variety of points so totally disconnected, the hon. gentleman has reduced us to the necessity of either rejecting his motion altogether, or of agreeing to it, without any fair opportunity of accurately examining the propriety of such acquiescence. Having been so fortunate, Mr. Speaker, as to attract your attention, I am anxious to avail myself of it at the present moment, because I am apprehensive that the heat of a crowded House will disable me from attending to the late boar to which this debate may be protracted; and although I cannot hope for sufficient strength to go over all the points brought forward by the hon. gen* tletnan, I Hatter myself at least in securing the indulgent attention of the House to what I shall observe upon the first head on which he thinks inquiry necessary, and in the decision of which my own character is so particularly implicated. If 1 should appear leas anxious respecting the other topics, on which he has grounded his motion, it is because there are, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a minister a right to retire. Now, after that allowance of the lion, gentleman, it was matter of astonishment to bun that any doubt could have been entertained by that hon. gentleman on that part of the subject, or that he did not at once admit, that the circumstance which had been sufficiently explained, already bad . amounted, in the opinion of that hon. gentleman, to a complete justification of himself and others who fciad retired. He admitted, however, to the bon. gentleman, that if a person who filled an office of important trust under government, had formed the project of proposing some measure which aid not appear, to lam tif be of much public im- 11171 Committee on the State of the Nation, A, IX. 180T. [HI& portance, although he had made up his mind upon it, but which he could not carry into effect, seeing clearTy, that the bent oP the government of which he made a part was against him, then it was the duty of such a minister to forego that opinion, and to sacrifice rather than withdraw his assistance from government in the hour of peril. It was extremely painful to him to be obliged to say so much, and so long to occupy the attention of the House: but he' would observe, that he had lived to very little purpose for the last seventeen years of his life, if it was necessary for him to say, that he had not quitted his situation in order to shrink’, from its difficulties’; for in the whole of that time, he had acted, whether well or ill, it was not for him ro say, but certainly in a manner that had no resemblance to shrinking from difficulty. He might say this, if ne were to strike the seventeen years out of the account, and refer only to what had taken place within the last two months; and he would venture to allege, that enough had happened within that time to wipe off the idea of his being disposed to shrink from difficulty, or wishing to get rid of any responsibility. What had happened within that period had' afforded him an opportunity of showing, in d particular manner, that he was willing so be responsible to arty extent which his situation cast upon him:in that particular he had had the good fortune, however unfortunate the cause, to have shown that fre was not only a party, but that he was the deepest of all parties in responsibility, in the adoption of 8 measure the most critical with regard to himself and his’ colleagues. He was therefore led to say, as to the measure which Had induced him to quit his situation, that he did' believe the importance of it, find the circumstances by which it was attended, to be such, that while he remained in office he should have been unable to bring it forward in the way, which was likely to be eventually successful; and therefore he judged that he' should serve less beneficially the public, as well as the parties more immediately the objects of it, in making the attempt, than in desisting fVom the measure. His idea of the measure itself Was, that if was one which upon the whole had been better adopted than refused under all the circumstances: such was also the idea of those Who had acted with him, and they had therefore thought It bfettef that they shousef quit their offices, draft .Oorttirttm under such circumstances in his majesty’s* service. In doing this, they bad acted purely from principle; they had acted in such a manner as had satisfied their owrt minds, which was to them' important; and he hoped they had acted ' in such it manner as would, one day ot other, her perfectly satisfactory to the public, so* far as the public should ever think it worth their while to be concerned* in his conduct. The measure to which he alluded, had he proposed It, as at one time be Wished* was not one which gentlemen on the other side of the House were likely to took off lightly, although he should have had the good fortune to have their support if he had brought it forward, that is, on one part; but he did not think that he should! upon the whole of it, nor did he believe those gentlemen would have ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hion you peremptorily refused tri Catharine 2nd. If I understand what it is to be right and consistent, I was so in my discrimination Upon this point, hi that discussion; and I am ignorant of the meaning of words, if the non. gentleman's animadversion this night be nut 4s weak, trifling, and fallacious, as were his original arguments at the time he made this surrender. So much, rhen, as to the two first branches 0? this question With the neutral powers. With respect to the third point, the right of search — -that, under sound and discreet limitations, is certainly a right of belligerents; but, pushed to extremity, it becomes, like many other rights a gross wrong. The right of search, as on the oge hand it does not rest merely on unwritten law, so neither on the other is it a matter to be arbitrarily exercised. The thing, as wellas the manner is defined by strict stipulation. As to 'the, claim of convoy, beyond all doubt, if the privilege of convoy were abused in protecting the trade of our enemy, that would be a very fit subject of representation. A 8 far as we are acquainted with the precautions intended by the northern powers* they seem to have been fully aware of such a possible fraud; and there it nothing of this sort which, in my opinion, remonstrance and reason were not capable of settling. Even the presence of convoy would not prevent search, and justifiably too, in what the treaties call *< cases of lawful suspicion.* But after rity, yriur final satisfaction may as well depend upon the convoy as the ship's docu-^ meats.. A sound.discretion will be, influenced By the nature of the case. It is nbt search upon tawful of urgent suspicion, *' so Well provided for in different treaties, that makes any part of the question; it is the unqualified assumption of a universal right to search in all possible cases e or, in other words, subjecting the Commerce of the world to vexatious and insulting interruptions and inquiries, without stint or distinction. This is the grievance; and, to judge of its justice, I ask, would you endure such treatment yourseves from any state upon earth? There is no principle by which you can so well attain the knowledge of relative justice, as by putting yourself in the place of another, and deckling upon another by yourself. The extent of what you contend for would, if retaliated, lay at the discretion of any petty power, toot only all the free Course of your trade, but also the proud spirit and the high feeling which so naturally belong to your naval ascendancy. Suppose the king of Spain at war with Algiers. If one case can be imagined more likely than another to reconcile you to this humiliation, it would be, I suppose, in favour of a Christian kina of Spain, contending with pirates, and robbers, and infidel oarbariaris. A British fleet of merchantmen, in the lawful pursuits of trade to your oWn islands, for instance, of Minorca or Malta, or destined to any ether of the Mediterranean ports, though convoyed by* a squadron of English men of war, would, according to these arguments be liable to be stopped, ransacked, teased, and insahed by the meanest cutter in the Spanish navy. Such would be the fate to which your own maxims would expose you, unless you frankly acknowledge that you have one measure for yourselves, and another* for the rest of the world. Whatever the shifting gale of hick and fortune may suggest to feeble minds, be assured that justice is the best policy, and the soundest' principle. Notwithstanding all the phlegm with which the right hon. gentlemen has stigmatised the three maritime states in this northern confederacy, not one word has he uttered, as my hon. friend has well observed, against the king of Prussia, one of the most strenuous parties in this league. If the genius of the right honourable gentleman’s government were yet to be truly characterised, his conduct in respect to this prince puts it in the most glaring colours. Not only 411 the wrong that may, in the opinion of many’[4 DJ ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 53] CmmUit onifu 8U/U f>fth*Nation. A.D. 1S01. [1154 Therigbthon. gentleman talks *T the king reign having been a series of con* cessions to the Catholics. Sir, the king’s reign is marked by no concessions which the blameless conduct of the Catholics was not calculated to exact from the most unwilling government in the world. He talks of what has been given to the Catholics. Sir, you give them nothing while you deprive them of a right to sit in this House. 1 know of no political rights which ought not to be common to all the king’s subjects, and I am sure that a system of proscription, on account of theological differences, wilL for ever be found not more unjust and absurd than Serpicious. If this principle needed lustration, Ireland affords it beyond the, power of controversy. Divided by the government, it presents a constant temptation to your, enemy. Rebellion is the fruit of bad policy, and invasion is encouraged by disunion. In mentioning the name of earl Fitz-wiljiara (so strangely quoted by an hon. gentleman, as having contributed to the misfortunes of Ireland by his proposal regarding the Catholics ), though I am eager to avow ony partialities for that noble person, it is not from private friendship or personal regard, that I call upon any really candid man to deny, if he be able, upon his honour and conscience, that the system introduced by that noble lord would not, if then adopted, ' have prevented those dreadful scenes of havoc, murder, and devastation, which have since desolated that wretched country. Let it be for ever remembered, that, with all the Industry which has beep employed in making up the reports of the Irish Lords and Commons upon these subjects, not a vestige of evidence appears, but the direct contrary, that any approach was made to seek assistance from France, or that even the most distant idea of separation from, or setting up for independence of this country, was entertained io Ireland, until every petition for peaceful redress of grievances was spurned and rejected. But, Sir, this concession, to which a few years since (when, in my full belief, it would have prevented all the calamities that have since happened ), the right hon. gentleman was so determined an enemy, and of which he is now, it seems, a martyr, was to have been, in his hpnds, accompanied with God knows what guards and qualifications. The apprehensions, [VOL. XXXV ] 1 think all such wholly chimerical — but no matter. Whatever apprehensions to church or state the fearful or the zealous might entertain from the grant of this Catholic claim, were all to be composed and done away, by the healing, wholesome, tranquillizing plan of the right hon. gentleman; and, after raising our expectation to the highest pitch m favour of this choice scheme, — this choice scheme, he tells us, must be locked up in his own breast. Now, that the right hon. gentleman should not impart his project to us on this side, whose dislike to it he anticipates, is nothing; but, that he should resolve to keep this House and the public in total ignorance of this most wise and perfect system, is utterly unaccountable. The right hon. gentleman’s steady determination to hide' from the world this piece of excellence, reminds me of a saying of Mr. Burke, who, in his fine strain of ridicule, observed, that if torture could ever be justified, it would be when a man refused to reveal what he asserted would be a mighty benefit to mankind. Torture had of late been liberally applied to extort the confession of evil; and if one could give the right bon. gentleman credit for the just grounds of his egotism, it would almost tempt a wish that he were compelled to disclose (his blessed secret. So obdurate is he upon this point, that he not only seals his lips against such a happy disclosure, and proclaims his determination not to introduce, in his own person, any question upon this subject, but he absolutely forbids the House from discussing it, by declaring, that such discussion will n ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- loyed to accomplish the union; but in respect to the operation of the Catholic question upon that measure, I can easily conceive that if any friend of the Catholics, my relation the duke of Leinster, for instance, or any other person well affected to their cause, or any of the leading Catholics themselves, should have been consulted by the right hon. gentleman, what can be so likely as that the right hon. gentleman should hint in private, what he has so distinctly stated in public, namely, that the shortest, surest course to the attainmetit of their objects would be, their support of that measure, from the adoption of which alone those concessions could flow which were so often refused by provincial prejudice, ignorance, and injustice. Upon the other hand, I cannot conceive any thing more probable than that the reluctance of those early enemies to the union, who are, at the same time, such infuriated terrorists in favour of Protestant ascendancy, had been subdued by assurances that an imperial parliament alone could raise a barrier sufficiently powerful to beat back the claims of the Catholics, so often, and so likely to be often preferred in the parlia-liament of that country. It appears to me that nothing could be At once more likely, and more like a pledge, tlnin all this, when those public declarations of the right hon. gentleman are remembered, which left no reserve upon this — that fori either giving or rejecting the CathoKc claim, the justice to feel it, the liberality to grant it, and the strength to secure it to the one sect, without mischief to the other, could be expected in a general parliament of the empire — and in that alone. That both parties in Ireland are discontented and disgusted, cannot be others wise than too true. To the Protestant zealot there is no security, or satisihetion to the Catholic claimant. Such is the right hon. gentleman’s infelicity upon this great question, that the measure which was to be the remedy becomes the Source of all distempers. Instead of quieting, he has agitated every heart in that country. The epoch from which was to begin the reign of comfort and Confidence, ' of peace and equity and justice, is marked, even on its outset, by the establishment of that which rests every civil blessing upon the caprice of power. Ill-starred race! to whom this vaunted union was to be the harbinger of all happiness; and of which the first fruit is martial-law, — ov, in other words, the extinguishment of nil law whatsoever! The situation of the king, and of this House, upon the subject, is quite unexampled. His Majesty’s prerogative is clear and undoubted to change his servants, to give or to reftise his assent to every law; but it is a gross breach of the privileges of this House, and a deep violation of the constitution, to use the king’s name for the purpose of influencing its deliberations. Here is not only an introduction of the king’s name, but a declared incapacity to propose a salutary system, on account of ofr jections which the constitution of the country, and the undoubted rights of this House, will not allow to be even men^ tioned or hinted at. Sir, I respect the monarchical part or this government; but the monarch has nothing to do with the sentiments of a member Of parliament $ and for the wonders of these times was reserved a public declaration within these walls, coming from high authority, that h plan of acknowledged benefit cannot be proposed here, unless it comes recoup-mended from the crown, of Which, bV the constitution Of the Country* shOura be the peculiar genius of this House to bfc wholly independent. -r 1157] Committee on the State of th Nation* A- p.< 1801, /, v This surely is a strange state of things; and every thing connected with it is of the setae character. . As a right, the right hen. gentleman denies the claim of the jCathoucs. . He would give them nothing as a right; but he thinks the concession expedient. This, Sir, is not ray sense of the Catholic claim. I would gra ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Criminall (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'criminall' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- authojily.lo coter iato»«ay docreo- £227} 41 GEORGE III. Mr- Jones's Motion respecting the Gntua n22$ tion m Egypt ? The instructions to lord Keith were given on the idea that the French might apply to the grand vizier for a convention, by which they might be permitted to quit Egypt and come to Europe, the which, if it had bqen agreed to, could not be binding on us; it could not dispose of the right we had to attack the enemy by sea, for they could not, by £ny convention of theirs, make the seas neutral. It was apprehended by us, that auch an attempt would be made, and that the view of it was. to take away a French army in Egypt, and to plant it in Italy. There was no power to do so under any maxim in the law of nations, nor under the rules of common sense or plain jut* tice, because it was the act of two powers, py which the interest of a third (no party Jo it) was most materially to be affected; and therefore it was that lord Keith was instructed as be had been; and yet, in that stage of the transaction, we directed, that if passports should actually be given, iand the ships should be met with, they should not be treated, as prisoners of war, limt taken to the army from which they .came. Now, he begged leave to observe, that there was ho reason for believing, either that general Kleber or sir Sidney /Smith himself, thought he had the power of entering into tins convention as commander in chief, or otherwise, until sir Sidney represented himself as having that power, which erroneously he thought afterwards he had. As to what had been •aid on our not being auxiliaries, but principal* in the convention, the hon. mover had read some papers with an audible voice; but he would find that the opinion of that vdry respectable officer was agttinSt him in that point. Sir Sidney thought be was acting as plenipotentiary; but the papers would show, that he was not; he acted, indeed, on an honourable but mistaken principle. Gentlemen then asked, why government did not proceed criminally against sir Sidney Smith ? and they said they thought, if fie had so far exceeded his powers, they ought so to proceed — rHe thought otherwise. But although there was a total absence of power in r sir Sidney to conclude this convention, we did not hesitate to direct the carrying it into effect; in doing which, Instead of having stained the character of sche British ministry, or the country which they represented, and injured their repu-jtation for good faith — they had afforded a mernorabl^ example of such faith, and even of scrupulous del/cacy. A* .to captious disposition at any mistake arising fVom misapprehension of the extei^ ot British officers power, it was repugnant to his nature, and he should be sqrry. if the House, or any part of the country, thought, that because sir Sidney had acted in the manner he had done, without authority, and exposed his majesty s then, ministers to the unmerited opprobrium which for a time they had borne, they, would on that account fees resentment against Him; or that any mistake, where the intention was honourable, could cancel in his breast, or in the breast# of those with whom he acted, the feel *, ings they had once cherished on the conduct of an officer, who /had added to the glory of the British arms. jSo far was lie from being of that opinion, tha$ he wished the hon. mover might be able, to carry in the India-house, a measure by which that which was at first intended to be granted to sir Sidney might be doubled in amount; for the glorious achievements at Acre were not to be 6et aside .by the mistake at El- Arish; the one was a mere misconception of power, the other was a brilliant display of military tajent, qrhich. extended the fame of a renowned British naval officer, and added to the triumph# of his country. ., Mr. George Ponsoriby admitted, that in the papers which the noble lord was willing to produce, almost all was poptaiped that would be essential. It was said, that the French government had published certain l ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- still pursued in this country, as had plunged Ireland in rebellion. The continuance of this conspiracy constituted a good reason for the continuance of the present measure. The committee had likewise stated, that the design of the conspirators was, to cause a sudden explosion, which was intended to take place in the -interval between the expiration of the former bills and the renewal of those now before the House. This of itself afforded a reason, not merely for passing the bill, but for doing so with as little delay as possible. The bill was then read a second time. After which it went through the remaining stages, sad was passed. Frptmt against the Habeas Corpus Sus- "Pretost against the . x £1296 v pension. Bill}. The following Protest wjm entered on the Journals: " Dissentient, 1. " Because no sign of disaffection to" the constitution of the country has hitherto appeared in the body of the people. 2. " Because the leading argument which has been made use of In favour of, the said suspension, namely, that it was, to prevent a tew disaffected persons front, corrupting the mass of the people is nu* gatory, since the application of the same principle would be equally strong to the preservation of all wholesome restraint, of power in the punishment of all other . crimes as well as nigh treason, and would do away the very essence and ground-h work of liberty under the law; a few oF- fenders in every branch of crime never being wanting to palliate on those grounds the substitution of discretionary power for law. 3. " Because the constitution unmuti-. lated, is abundantly provided in itself with' adequate means for its own protection. 4. " Because the Suspension of the aid Habeas Corpus Act is, in fact, levelled against the wants of the people, and not against the efforts of Jacobinism, ' which have long ceased to be any thing but the derision of all Europe. 5. " Because the suspension of the said act has no pretensions to alleviate the wants, or redress the grievances of the people, but merely to stifle for awhile the complaints they occasion. 6. " Because the suspension of the said act of Habeas Corpus has a natural tendency to infuse into the present existing discontents, a turn of a political nature, to which they are at present a perfect stranger, by cutting off from the subject the privilege of freely communicating hiij ideas without restraint, and thereby driving*' him to extremities, which, under a free government, he would have no occasion to resort to. 7. "Becauseconsidering the suspension of the said act of Habeas Corpus on the. grounds on which it is endeavoured to be justified, it does not appear to be a measure of temporary necessity, called for by local and adventitious circumstances, but rather to form part of a general system of' resistance to certain disputed points of morality, which must carry equal weight with them at all times, and in all ages, as long as men continue to receive frohi the Almighty the same intellectual faculties. 1*291} Habeas Corpus Suspension . }£ Bfcciille It appears from certain late transactions both in this House and elppwhere, that the undoubted privilege of keeping the proceedings, of the legis-!-laityire ^secret, is endeavoured to be extended to the seclusion of the body of the nation from knowing in what manner they are' governed, and that the suspension of the Habeas Corpus act will give a colour td suqh a jealous, timid, and self-accusing system. % " because it behoves every member of this. House to ascertain by what repeated act*, . whether it is really intended Id govern Englishmen free born, by prinr cijMes^ wlnch it is thought necessary to conceal from them, and that the suspension of 'the Habeas Corpus act cannot failtb operate on the fears of members of tips; House, to deter them from carrying this and other laudable undertakings into execution. JO, . V Because when the Habeas Cornus act was last suspended* the pom ers that wdre thereby vested were most shamefully ab ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v35.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- necsfcity /of dfmg.somjt- 1551] 41 GEORGE III. Debate the Commons on ike f 155? thing to remedy the evils arising from the emailness of many of the livings in the church, as no doubt this formed the great source of pluralities and non-residence; but he should, indeed, be sorry if recourse should be had to the public purse, so remedy this evil, convinced as he was that the revenues of the church, if properly distributed, were perfectly adequate to the sufficient payment of all its officers. Sir John Parnell contended that, as the principle of the existing law was good, it ought not to be annulled, because particular hardships might result from it. Dr. Laurence approved of the proposed measure, but expressed his disapprobation of the speculative plan of a future general alteration of the law. The Speaker said, the law was framed in very oifferent circumstances from those which now existed, and for very different purposes from those to which it was now made subservient. A revision of it, therefore, was expedient. He, therefore, approved of the motion. As to allowing the clergy to hold farms to a certain extent, he conceived it to be proper; but to be very dangerous, if carried beyond that extent. The motion was agreed to. The bill was brought in on the 12th, and read a second time on the 15th. June 19. On the order of the day for going into a committee on the bill, Mr. Ellison opposed it, and read a quotation from Joseph Andrews, relative to the various avocations pursued by parson Trulliber, for the purpose of ridiculing the bill; which, he contended, went to make parson Trullibers of all the clergy. He could not consent to allow the clergy to become jobbers and farmers, nor could he consent to dispense with their residence. He was not so hostile towards common informers as some gentlemen appeared to be; for he conceived them to be not only necessary, but frequently the benefactors of the public. Mr. Gregor thought the bill should go to a committee, that the grievances complained of by the clergy might be fairly examined. The means at present in the hands of informers to harass the clergy, tended very much to degrade that respectable body. Mr. L H. Browne considered common informers as pests of society. Clergymen who were regular in the discharge of their duty, might at present be subject to pe- nalties under the statute of Henry 8th merely because they did not exactly reside within the limits of their parish; while others, neglecting their duty, but sleeping one night in every month within their parish, might escape. Mr. Sheridan said, that the bill appeared to him to embrace two distinct objects. As far as the question of residence was concerned, in his opinion, the most beneficial effects would accrue from the parochial habitation of the clergy. The state had a right to expect every. assistance from an establishment, instituted, paid, and protected by the constitution. If the penalties enacted for noo-reaidence were rigorously enforced, the infallible consequence would be, that the clergy would reside in their respective parishes, and the public would reap the most essential benefit with respect to moral improvement. The second object of the bill involved the question of farming. By the statute of Henry 8th a clergyman was liable to the same penalties for engaging in agricultural pursuits as attached to him for nonresidence. Was this founded upon wise or equitable principles ? As the law at present stood, a clergyman was authorised to cultivate his glebe, and to dispose of the surplus produce. Gentlemen must bo aware that this was a very vague and undefined privilege. The quantum of disposable produce depended on fortuitous circumstances. Not only the extent of the glebe< but the number of the clergyman’s family, came into the consideration. A clergyman with a large family, and an ordinary portion of glebe, might have very little surplus produce to dispose of. But how stood the case supposing him to have no children, or t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- n, Chrysenque, et Cyllan Apollinis tubes, Et Scyron cepisse. 81] Preliminaries of Peace with France. A.D. 1301. [82 He is the great prominent cause of all this greatness of the French republic. How did we come into this situation Bv maintaining a war upon grounds origf-nally unjust. It was this that excited a spirit of proud independence on the part of the enemy: it was this that lent him such resistless vigour: it was this that gave Them energy and spirit, that roused them to such efforts, that inspired them with apatriotism and a zeal which no opposition could check, and no resistance subdue. If I am asked what rov opinion is of the future, my reply is, that, to put us in complete enjoyment of the blessings of peace, small establishments alone are necessary* It is by commercial pursuits and resources that we must attempt to compensate for the aggrandisement of our ancient rival: to cope with him in large establishments, in expensive navies and armies, will be the surest way to unnerve our efforts and diminish our means. Sir, I am not sanguine enough, though I think and hope the peace will be lasting, to calculate on a seventy years’ peace. But still I am sanguine to a certain degree in my expectations, that the new state of France will turn the disposition of her people to a less hostile mind towards this country. I do think that Buonaparte’s government is less likely to be adverse to Great Britain than the house of Bourbon was. God forbid that I should insult a fallen family; but the interests of my country compel me to say, that the chief consul cannot have a more inveterate spirit, and a more determined hostility towards us, than the house of Bourbon had. It has been said with truth, that the trade of France has been nearly annihilated; but I believe, the accounts from the interior of France do not represent her to be in a desolate state; and for Heaven’s sake let us not forget, that the revolution bas produced the effect of removing many of those internal grievances under which France groaned under the old government. It has abolished the corvees, a roost vexatious tax; the feuda* lities, the odious and unjust immunities of the rich from the payment of taxes; it has abolished the privileges of the nobility, not those privileges which place the nobility as a barrier between the crown and the people, but those privileges which enabled them to tyrannise over and oppress their inferiors: — in a word, the French have made those reforms which we did two centuries ago. [VOL, XXXVI.] Sir, for my own part, I cannot help thinking that the encouragement given to the arts and sciences, the increasing patronage in France of agriculture and of commerce, will make the minds of the people more pacific. It is a notorious fact, that the joy with which the French received the communication of the peace, was quite as great and as sincere as it waa in this country. The chief consul well knew, that in making peace he fulfilled the desires of the people whom he governs, as much as his majesty’s ministers accom- fdished the wishes of the people of Eng-and. What, then, remains to bp considered, but this affair of commerce ? Many persons are fearful that our commerce will suffer from the competition of France. I have no such fears. As far as our trade can be attacked by the rivalship of France, I think that rivalship will do us good. If, as some of you think, the weight of our taxation will enable France to rival us, is not that, I would ask, an additional argument in favour of peace ? The right hon. gentleman who spoke last, alludes to the principles and power of France. Of the former he is no longer afraid, though he is of the latter. If this be the case, is it not rather strange that he should think of assailing principles by guns and pikes and cannon; but that, when he is afraid of the power of France, he would make peace?, Sir, principlea never were, and never will be annihilated by force. I never had so much dread as some gentlemen had of Fr ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e trusted, that that faith would not now be violated, without the fullest proof of its justice and necessity. If the charters of the India company were to be violated, where was the security for those of the Bank of England, of the city of London, or the many other great charters with which the liberty, prosperity, and security of the nation were so materially connected ? Mr. W. Dundaswas unwilling to violate the chartered rights of the company, but when that company had avowed their willingness to concede in favour of private trade, be felt it his duty to close with them. An bon. baronet had said, that 3,000 tons of shipping was sufficient for the conveyance of the private trade between England and India; but he would ask bow this could possibly answer for a trade so very much increased since the settlement of this regulation I The hon. baronet had also asserted, that such was the state of opposition between the private traders and the company’s interest, or the home trade with India, that, in proportion as the former increased, the latter always decreased. Unfortunately for this assertion, in 1794-5 the sales of the India company amounted to 5, 521,000l.; the private sales to 1, 053,000l. From this period they continued in progressive increase till the year 1801-2, when the company’s sales were, 7, 600,000l.; the private sales 2, 382,000l., a proofs this, of the rapid increase in both. Mr. Jones denied that the motion, if granted, would sacrifice the foreign trade of India, or, that it might be used as an engine for the destruction of the company’s charter. In his opinion, , the directors had npt given due pnspurage- 905] o« the Trade betxaeen India and Europe. A. D.' 1801. [306 Bient to the private traders, under the act of 1793. He entertained no fears with respect to the adoption of the proposition, nor did be think that by it we should lose the sovereignty of the seas. The application was not for an attack upon the charter, but only for an inquiry into a grievance, the existence of which was acknowledged. The object of the motion was fair and laudable; and its adoption would tend to the salvation of the India company, and the general prosperity of the nation. Mr. Tierney said, that the first ground on which he should oppose the motion was, the charter of the Iodia company, which vested in the court of directors, the sole control in this affair; and, without violating that charter, and with it the faith of the nation on which it stood supported, it was impossible to comply with the motion. If he conceived there was any thing in that charter contrary to the public welfare, or that the motion before the House was calculated to remove any such principle in the privileges of the India company, there was no man in the House less disposed than he was to be deterred by such cant as the phrase of " chartered rights, " from acceding to the inquiry proposed. But neither proof nor argument had been adduced to convince him that any necessity for such inquiry existed. The bill for renewing the charter of the India company had been drawn by an able hand; and by this bill a line was drawn, by which the limits of private and public trade with India were amicably adjusted. A regulation was in reality exacted from the company in favour of private traders, by which 3,000 ton of shipping was exclusively appointed for the conveni-enceof the private trade; and discretionary powers vested in the court of directors to extend that quantity, if occasion should require. But now an attempt was made for opening that bill again to consideration, in his mind impolitic and unneces-tary. Not one single proof was adduced, of any injury to any party. How, then, were the assertions of the hon. baronet supported ? Not by the public voice, for in all England there did not appear to be 500 persons in support of his opinions. A board of control had been appointed under the act, and the rates of freight settled, at 15/. per ton outwards, and 51. home, subject to fu ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['petition of right']; Petition of Right ['petition of right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- of the lands; there was no clause in the act giving to the king the money arising from those sales; there was not even an estate vested in the king for the purposes of the trust, but a bare naked power unaccompanied with an interest. What colour, then, could there be for considering the money arising from these grants, as money belonging to the king ? It certainly belonged to him whose. 331] 42 GEORGE III. lands were granted; yet the ministers for the time being had seized this money as belonging to the king. The argument, that the prince’s revenues, during his minority, were applicable to his maintenance, could by no possibility be of force in this ease. If the revenues annually arising from the prince’s lands were applicable to his maintenance, it could not be thought reasonable that the lands themselves should be sold, and the money arising from those sales applied to his maintenance. Even if the money arising from those grants, during his minority, had been accumulated and paid to the prince on his coming of age, it would be but a poor compensation for the loss he had sustained from the grants which had been made under this act. The lands of the duchy of Cornwall were in general leased only for thirty-one years. If no leases had been made daring the minority of the prince, many of the leases would have been expired when he attained the age of twenty-one. No lease could possibly have bad more than ten years to run. The prince, by the grant of new leases, might perhaps have raised a sum exceeding that which had been named by the learned gentleman. The money received for these leases, even had it been accumulated and paid to the prince, was a poor compensation. But, in fact, none of it had ever reached the prince; it had been seized by the ministers, and applied to the purposes of the civil list. Parliament was bound to see that this money was forthcoming for the use of the prince. It was not quite correct to say that no claim had ever been made by the prince. A petition of right had been presented by the prince to the late chancellor; that petition of right had not been sent to any court of justice to be examined; and this was an additional reason why the claim should be inquired into by parliament. Former parliaments had protected the property of the prince of Wales. In the fifth of Hen. 4th the Commons petitioned the king, that measures might be taken to revoke certain grants made by Richard 2nd of lands parcel of the duchy of Cornwall, which grants had been confirmed by Henry 4th. In consequence of this application from the House, a writ of scire facias was brought in chancery, in the king's name, and the grants revoked. In the present case, parliament, which, by passing the act enabling the king to make grand of tha land?; bad deprived the prince Debate in the Commons [332 of his right, was more strongly called on to see that the money which had been received on the sale of these lands should be paid over to the prince. The motion was then agreed to, and a committee appointed. Feb. 22. Mr. Manners Stdlon said, that having called the attention of the House on a former occasion to the claims of the prince of Wales, to the revenues of the duchy of Cornwall, he wished now to inform them, that while it was the desire of the prince that the subject should be thoroughly investigated, he was authorised by his royal highness to intimate to die House, that he should deter bringing forward the subject, until after the question relative to his majesty's civil list should be determined. He hoped therefore that gentlemen would abstain, in the course of the discussion of that question, from making any allusion to the claims of his royal highness. Debate in the Commons on the Army Estimates, ] MarchS. The House having resolved itself into a committee of supply, to which the army estimates were referred. The Secretary at War said, that the estimates were for sixty-one days, and related to some of the most pressing and important, but not to all the services. They were calculated exactly on the same scale with the estimates ef ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['petition of right']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- in chivalry is not applicable to the present case. Another dotibt Was, whether the king by hhf prerogative, or Sotne Other attribute, Was not entitled to receive the revenues Of the duchy: But, ’ if there be Any thing of prerogative in the case, must it not arise out of the grant itself? That this, however, is not the fact, * will appear from a reference to the several reigns that have Succeeded die reign of Edward 3rd. The first grant was made by Edward 3rd to his son, the Black irince. Upon his demise, his Son, afterwards RichArd 2nd had livery of possession Of the duchy. When Henry 4th ascended the throne his Soil had livery of possession, though then only ten years Of age. Henry 5th died abroad, -when his son was nd more than eight month old, and then there was ho time to ghohitttlhery of possession, But the reign of Edward 6th afforded by (hr the most decisive case. In 1453, his eldest son, afterwards Henry 6th, was both. In 1455, an act Was passed, Stating that as his son was born duke Of Cornwall, and as he bad right of possession, there should be delivered to him (as to' his eldest son) the lands, rents, and revenues of the duchy, that he blight enjoy the same ha as full a manner as they had been enjoyed by his predecessor, Edward the Black Prince. The act then recites, that as he Was under age he Should have certain persons id act for him. It neVt enacts, 1 that from the 12th of November 1455, the king shall have the rents and revenues of the duchy, till the prince shaft attain the age of fourteen, deducting certain acting to be applied to purposes Specified in the act. In 1459, the council of the prince presented a petition to the king, 1 Complaining that the duchy had been materially dismembered, and praying that as Bis son was dtike of Cornwall, and Ss sdeh entitled to the rents of the duchy, he might enjoy those rentji and revenues id as complete a manner as they have been enjoyed by any of h!S predecessors. This1 petition was moreover stated to be a petition of right. It Was discussed in parliament, and, with the advice of parHatttent, * the king ac* qulisced fh its’ prayer. Whit & the legitimate inference tW be drawn from trait precedent ? Evidently, that the king had no prerogative that empowered him t6 receive those rents. If he Was Vested with such a prerogative, Why make any application to parliament I Why WerC terms stipulated ? Why comply With at petition SO warded, and thus called a pe-, tition Of right? But! a'S the king assented to it, the learned gentleman conceived that this assent proved his second proposition, namely, that the king's eldest son has a right to the duchy. Sorely be should not here be told that Henry 6fh Was a Weak prince: for, granting that be was, did the charge of weakness apply also to his parliament, WhO advised him to comply With the petition? Indeed, here the learned gentleman thought he might safely rest the justice of nis caSe. But he felt anxious to state Other instances, with a view of removing every possible ground of doubt. In the year 1472, Edward 4th, by the advice of his privy council, granted the dnefiy and livery of possession to Ms sod, ' then only eight months or a year old. The patent recites, th£ eldest Sons, being borh dukes of Cornwall, are in that capacity entitled to livery of possession. These were the CXAct wordS: this charter of livery was ratified and Confirmed by the consent of the Lords? Spiritual and Temporal, and also by the Commons; which proves beyond a doubt, that there this no nOnage with regard to the duchy. In 1495, upon the accession of Henry 7th to the thrOne, he had no son born, and the revenues of the dtiChy Were? vested in himself. But it waS at (he same time expressly ordered, that if hC had a Son, he' should enjoy the duchy, rents, Ac. in as full A manner as any of his predecessors.. The property of this daCny seems to be held by an extraordinary limitation; it remains with the king when he has no son, hot it goes to the son the moment he is born, and again reverts to the king should the son die. King Henry appointed Certain surfis out of the rents of the duchy for the relief of his Subjects from some grievance Of purveyance. The next year a son was borrr to him, and the kfrtg immediately gives him livery of possession, and acknowledges that he is of full age. It was the Opinion of justice 0oddridge, that the king’s eldest son is not only of age, but that the1 krOg is* by law forced to give him possession As if he Were of perfect age. IW 1436, pTinCe Arthur Was born, ' and bad HVWfry of possession giver! Mm immediately 411] 42 GEORGE III. Debate on Mr, Manners Sutton's Motion [412 after his birth. An act was also passed, repealing the assessment that had been made of certain sums from the duchy towards the relief of the subject from the grievance of purveyance, and the receiver was directed no longer to pay them. On the death of prince Arthur in 1502, Henry, afterwards Henry 8th became duke of Cornwall, and was discharged from being duke of York, because, in the former capacity, he had great and valuable possessions. Large fines, which had been levied in the duchy, were also put to the account of the prince. Henry 8th’s son was of course born duke of Cornwall; but when his charter of 1 possession was made out he could not precisely say. In the reigns of Edward 6th Mary, and Elizabeth, there was no son. — The learned gentleman next proceeded to the reign of James 1st. There it was supposed that some very formidable objection would be found to the prince’s claims. He had given the subject much attention, but, notwithstanding, he was unable to discover any circumstances in that reign that militated against, but, on the contrary, many that plead in favour of, the right. James 1st was indeed anxious to withhold this property from his son; and had it not been for the character and conduct of justice Doddridge, who was his adviser, his son might have long been out of possession. An act was at length passed, which recites that the eldest sons of the king were entitled to become dukes of Cornwall: and hereby the king is forced to admit the right, and to confess that eo instante his eldest son is from his birth duke of Cornwall. — The reign next to be touched upon was that of Charles 1st. When he granted livery of possession to his son was not clear. Charles 2nd had no issue, and James 2nd abdicated the throne. William 3rd and Ann had no issue. When George 2nd came to the throne, his son was under age, but, immediately on his coming of age, an account was rendered him of the revenues of the duchy, from the time of his father’s accession. Surely, a case of such modem period was well calculated to remove all doubt. In 1760, his present majesty ascended the throne, and, in 1762, the prince of Wales was born. From the in ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['petition of right']; Petition of Right ['petition of right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nto a fundamental error, not from want of 415] 42 GEORGE III. pefatfi ability, but from not having applied his talents to the subject in the way in .which be conceived it ought to be considered, and particularly according to thp practice of the last two centuries, His learned friend contended, that the effect of the act of Charles 2nd, which he quoted, was to abolish tenures, as he had stated the cate apply to the claim of the prince of Wales to the revenues of the dneby of Cornwall. He had great respect for the opinion of hi# learned ffield; but there were others for whose opinion he had also great respect, and which opinion was contrary to that ear pressed by his learned friend; the technical expression of which was, that in this cape of guardianship* in chivalry, the guardian while die ward is declared to he seized, until application fer release, being ip possession, hap a right to the rents and profits belonging to the ward t that the gpardian was entitled tP the profits and revenues afyer seisin and until livery is demanded, &c. This was applicable to the case of the prince of Wales. There was no demand of livery made on hit her half* as duke of Cornwall, during his minority. This he understood to he a point of law* of which opinions of the highest authority were adverse to this claim- He was not prepared to give a decided opinion upon it; it was not oer pessary he should; it was enough for him to know that doubts were entertained by those who were much better qualified than ho could pretend to he to form an opinion pp it: knowing that these doubts were entertained, he thought it improper to take the step now recommended; for untU it wps found, that legal redress out of that House was unattainable, he should think jibe House would be going nut of its proper course, by entering oa an investigation of the subject. He did not presume to state what these means for legal redress might be, but this he knew, that some of dm best informed men were of opinion, that a petition of right was the proceeding proper to be adopted in this case. His learned friend’s second head of observations was one on Which a few words ought to be bestowed; gnd here the question was, whether the public had received the revenues and profits of the duchy of Cornwall ? This wap a part of the case which had about It considerable delicacy. Were was the Spof that any part of the duchy of >mwall bad been directly applied to the on Mr.Manners Sutton's Motion £416 service of the public ? Was the proof to be found Ip the Journals of parliament ? He )kflew, thpt during the minority of the prince of Wales, sums of money arising from the revenues of the duchy of Cornwall, had been voted tp he applied to the purposes of the civil list» and thpt 94, ppio/. of this property cpme under the head of public services. The House would recollect what the circumstances were which attended this transaction, and they would be fully aware, that it did not always follow that a sum intended to ho applied for the public service could he pajd to ho actually for the public service. He wps entitled tp call on gentlemen who {contended, that thip claim was a claim Upon the public, in consequence of the application of the revenues of the duchy of Cornwall to the nan of the public, to show from documents, how and when that application of that revenue took place ? His (earned friend bed stated p wish, on the part of the prince of Wales, to give satisfaction tQ the public. Whoever had the happiness to be acquainted with his wai mghness must oe wed aware of Jtbe truth of that assertion, ft was a piepsure to thu public to redact, th^t such sentiments were entertained by that illustrious prince. It must give satisfaction to every good man that hip royal highness had an anxiety to stand well in the opinion of the public. Any man who could entertain a contrary feeling or a different wish, must be void of honour, dead to every generous impression, and ought to be brooded as a monster and held up to the scorn of the public. Cut this was not mere matter of personal anxiety, even in his royal highness, manly and virtuous as that feeling Was; that jtfie prince of Wales should stand w^l in the opinion and affection of the public, was a matter in which the public itself was interested. But the learned gentleman had stated, that jf this Enattpr was fully investigated, it would appear, that when the sums which his royaj highness had received were put in opposition tp what he was entitled to, hip royal highness had opt been the occasion of any burthen to jtbe public. Now, as to the state of account in this particular, as they applied to sums .voted, he had pcr casino to lay them before the House on a former occasion, in stating the circiuor stanpes of the civil list; hut he cpufil not consent to the .course of proceeding proposed by the motion now bpjfce the 417] relative to the Rrt>eit& of the Duchy of Cornwall. A.D. 1803. [419 House; and he called on the House to do him the justice to believe, that he had but one object in view, and that was to jarrive at truth. The motion was of two parts; that of deciding upon the question of right, and that of taking the account. Upon the subject of the right, he had stated what had occurred to him by way of answer to the application to the House: be believed it to be by means of a petition of right: he must, however, not be understood to recommend that, or any other proceeding. As to the statement of the account, it appeared that the sums issued for his royal highness out of the civil list were monies which arose out of a fixed allowance, and which it was unnecessary to trouble the House with the detail of; there was an aggregate of 128, 481/. there was besides an extraordinary allowance of 50, 550/. a further sum between the prince of Wales and the duke of York, of 32,000 /.the proportion of which that fell to the share of the . prince was more than a moiety, but the amount of the advances in the year 1783 was 211, 390/. Now, deducting 16,000l. of this aggregate, there would then have been received by the prince at the period he alluded to, upwards of 195,000l. This was applicable only to twelveyears of the nonage of the prince of Wales. He believed/the average of the allowance of his royal highness during the rest of his minority was 13,000l. a year, so that the whole sum was 233, 764 /.for nine years. When the prince of Wales came of age, there was a grant made to him out of the civil list, of 50,000l. for his revenue, and which was received by his royal highness until the year 1787, at that period an augmentation of the revenue of his royal highness took place out of the civil list, which was then raised to 60,000l. per ' annum. The whole amount from that period to the 5th of January 1802, was 865,000l. The whole sum advanced out of the civil list to the prince of Wales, since he came of age, was 1, 725,000l. out of which there might be particular items deducted; such as the sum laid out on Carlton»house and some other arrangements that were made, the particulars of which were laid minutely before parliament in 1795. But, under all the circumstances of the affairs of his royal highness, supposing the advances which were made on the one hand, and the revenues of the duchy of Cornwall taken on the other, without touching the question of right, he doubted v ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['petition of right']; Petition of Right ['petition of right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ount. But his leading objection was this, that wherever there was a wrong in this country, there must be some redress. Such a point, in his opinion, ought not to be entertained in that House. If it had appeared in roof, that no application for redress could e made elsewhere, or had been made elsewhere in vain, it would then be time enough to apply to that House; but in the present posture of this case, he must oppose this motion, as one which did not come under the legitimate functions of that House. Nothing but absolute necessity could justify its adoption. He was unwilling to negative such a proposition as this, because it might be made a question elsewhere; but he could not support it, and would conclude with moving, " That the other orders of the day be now read." Mr. Erskine rose to support the motion, and maintained that the length of time that had elapsed from the origin of the grant to the present period, was no answer to the claim, and if the law was clear, the House would be so far from being out of its course in entertaining the motion, that it would be in the direct discharge of its duty to the public. The only proper way of ascertaining the law upon the subject would be by referring it to a committee; and if upon the report, the matter appeared to oe doubtful, it would be then time enough for the House to say so, by declining to proceed any farther. Mr. Erskine then took an historical review of the statutes and other records, from the time of the grant of Edward 3rd, to the Black Prince downwards; all of which, he said, were in favour of the right, and that it appeared from the statute of Henry 6th, that the king himself at that period, as well as the parliament, considered the right of the prince of Wales to the revenues, of the duchy of Cornwall to be clear and unquestionable. This, indeed, was obvious by that king coming himself in person to his parliament when the prince was only two years of age, to take some of it away, but still more from the petition of right decided two years afterwards, when the entire revenues were restored. This was a full recognition of the right, by parliament, and by a monarch whose interest and disposition to the contrary had been so manifest; and this decision, without a whisper to the contrary, remained untouched to the present hour. — It was true, that when Charles 1st was prince of Wales, it became a question, 'whether he was so entitled, but his title was only doubted upon the legal construction of JUius primogenitus.- — In the present instance there was but one point for consideration; viz. whether these parliamentary proceedings and other documents were sufficiently satisfactory, or whether a doubt remained for the decision of another tribunal. For his own part, he thought them absolutely conclusive, and consequently a sufficient foundation for the determination of the House without further controversy. He then went through the history of livery of seisin as dependent upon tenure until abolished by the 12th of Charles 1st, and said, that no prince of Wales had had livery of the duchy of Cornwall. — George 2nd, when prince of Wales, had no livery of seisin; his present majesty had none, and the present prince of Wales had none, — The claim, therefore, was not a doubtful one to be settled by a legal decision, but one that had been recognized for ages, and confirmed by repeated acts of parliament. Indeed, the only reason for asking the aid of the House of Commons was, because, though a petition of right had for a long time been prepared, difficulties had occurred in its progress; the best endeavours had been employed, but no certain advance had been hitherto made towards a decision. — With regard to the account, he would say nothing, except that it was on all hands agreed, if the right were found to be with the prince, that his royal highness had not, in any period of his life, been the smallest burthen to the public. The Master of the Rolls observed, that the proposition of his learned friend had 421 j relative to the Revenue of the Duchy of Cornwall. A.D. 1802. [422 been submitted to the House with every possible advantage which could arise from luminous statement, or a display of the soundest judgment and discretion. However he felt himself under the necessity of opposing the proposition, it was impossible not to feel respect for the motives by which it had been suggested, and he was ready at once to allow that the anxiety of his royal highness for the discussion of his claims, arose much more from a wish that the real state of the account betwixt him and the public might be ascertained, than with any hope of immediate advantage. Still, however, the proposition was one which called upon the House to exercise judicial functions and legal investigations; and no disposition, however atrong, to display marks of affection to his royal highness, should induce the House, consistently with the order of their proceedings, to entertain such a discussion. Discussions collateral with the general subject now under consideration might indeed be introduced, but they were wholly unnecessary, and for this reason he would not enter into them on the present occasion. On a similar principle, ne would forbear to give any opinion on the claims of his royal highness, for if it should hereafter be found expedient to institute some legal inquiries, it might, perhaps fall to his lot to assist in framing the decision which might be given; and sure he was that he would enter on any su ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tion had Been brought to its true bearing, namely, whether the revenues of the duchy of Cornwall, granted for the support of the heir apparent during his minority, should not be applied to this purpose. Edward Srd could never mean that he should feel no exoneration by the rich grant which he made, but that it should be a dry, accumulating fund. The provident inten-[VOt. XXXVI.] tions of Edward 3rd and his parliament, forsooth, were now to be frustrated, and the money was to be locked up in a banker’s chest. He did not ask the opinion of a lawyer upon the charter, but that of any man of common sense. Instead of occasional supplies, the prince had received his royal appenage. From the 33rd of Henry 6th the contemporaneous exposition of the legislature clearly appeared to have been that which he supported. By that it was enacted, that the prince should sojourn and be it diets in the king’s palace, and that the king should receive an account of all the revenues of the duchy of Cornwall [Mr. Erskine called out that that act was immediately repealed.] The learned gentleman maintained that this made no difference whatever. The Yorkists had gained great advantages at that time, and every one at all acquainted with history knew that every thing was in the utmost confusion. The repeal of the law was of no consequence whatever. After considering the point of livery, the learned gentleman proceeded to deprecate the idea of the House mixing with the determination of a matter of right. This would be a thing of the worst omen. It had no sanction in the past, and would be a most mischievous precedent for the future. Particularly it would lay open a wide field for canvas and cabal, which could not possibly enter into the courts of law. The wisdom of our ancestor* had made a separation which we should do well not to confound. He by no means said that the prince had any compulsory means of enforcing his rights, supposing them to exist. The king could not be called to account. When a petition of right was presented to the chancellor, although he decreed for the petitioner, if justice was still refused him, he had no remedy. This was on account of the peculiar situation of the sovereign, in whom great confidence was placed, and whom it might be dangerous to subject to any legal process. If the House went beyond their constitutional competence, and entertained this question, they would do so to no purpose. It had been shown clearly, that the money advanced to the prince of Wales during his minority exceeded all his revenues, and that no balance was due to him. The House had declared general warrants to be illegal, but that was a mere abstract question; and bore no resemblance to a question of [2F] 435) 42 GEORGE III. Debait bn Mr, Manners Suttonfs Motion £435 civil right, touching the property of in-dividuaYs. He thought it would be highly unbecoming in the House to obtrude its mediation between father and the soft: it would be irreverent to the Sovereign, and detrimental to the state. It was not pretended that these revenues had been in any degree misapplied. The elegant accomplishments and splendid endowments of the prince, showed that he had experienced the highest degree of parental care, liberality and attention. Mr. Tierney said, that the master of Hie rolls had urged a very formidable objection to the motion, and had evidently made a deep impression upon the House. If he had not got over this difficulty, he confessed he could not so readily have given his support to the motion for a committee. But he thought he could furnish a complete answer to it. He denied, in the first place, the position, fhat the affair was between the prince of Wale* and the king. The king had nothing to do with it, and his name ought hot to have been introduced. The public Was the other party with the prince, and, in taking cognizance of the matter between them, the House by no means acted- as a judicial tribunal. A judicial tribunal was a tribunal that took upon itself to decide ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['petition of right']; Petition of Right ['petition of right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- historical knowledge of the attorney general, he must say a few words. That learned gentleman had commented Op the act of Henry 6th as settling principles for guiding the application of the revenues of the aueby of Cornwall. But if, as that learned gentleman had contended, the king, as guardian of the prince of Wales, had a right to interfere with the application of these funds to the prince of Wales ip hip minority, why was this special act passed ? The learned gentleman, however, upon an historical reference to the times iq which these events passed, had laid very Little stress on the repeal of the act. But he forgot that it was repealed on a petition stating it to be injurious to the prince of Wales. If the prince, however, had any claim upon the revenues of the duchy of Cornwall, how was the right to be made effectual? Were the prince even to obtain a verdict against the (isg, could it be made available ? And if it could not, would the House then be disposed to listen more favourably to the prince’s application ? For it was to the House certainly that the prince must ultimately look for payment. The House therefore ought to examine the right, to ascertain how much the prince might, on the statement of accounts regarding the application of the revenues of Cornwall, be entitled to recover. Surely it was uu: gracious to advise the prince to enter intp a law-suit to ascertain his right, wheq some gentlemen contend, that no arrear would be found due. But, if there was any other mode by which the priqcp could proceed, it should be stated. This was no hostile proceeding. The prince acted with the roost honourable motives, with the utmost delicacy towards the king, in trying to ascertain his right i be felt that he had a duty to his father; but he felt likewise a duty towards hip creditors. The Solicitor General contended, that if the prince had any legal right, the proper mode of proceeding, in the first place, was, to ascertain that right in a regular manner. If a petition of right failed, the claim might then be submitted to parliament. It had been said, that the prince came forward as a creditor of the public; but that was the very point to be proved; for how could he be a creditor, if he had no right to the sums for which he sought re-payment ? Whether he was a creditor or not depended on the question, whether the revenues of the duchy had or bad not been properly applied ? It was understood, when the revenues of the duchy of Cornwall were settled on the prince ox Wales, that they were to be for his, support; because, when sojourning and at diet with the king, they were to be by the king applied to his use; but, when not sojourning and at diet with the king, be was to live at his own charge. He contended, that the revenues of the duchy being settled by the crown for the maintenance of the prince of Wales, no account of them could be asked for; and he cited, in illustration, the practice of the court of Chancery, where, after a sum was liberally granted for the support and education of a minor of large property, no accoupt was given of its minute application. Mr. Tyrxvhitt was sorry, that any thing should have been said that could lead to the supposition that this question involved any contest between the king and the prince of Wales. The consideration of the prince’s rigfit to the revenue of the 439] 42 GEORGE III. Debate duchy, during his minority, came first to be considered in 1795; and in every consultation upon the mode of making it effectual, the prince had always made a proviso, that no measure to be pursued should imply any dispute between him and his royal father. When it was thought proper to proceed, by presenting a petition of right, the lord chancellor was applied to, who intimated, that he did not consider it as belonging to his official duty to ?resent such a petition to the king. In 796, however, the petition was prepared; and after it had lain over a time, the prince wrote the lord chancellor on the subject, who returned for answer, that he did not think it within the province of his official duties to present such a petition to the king. Since that time, no other mode of presenting it being found, nothing farther had been done in it. This statement he had made to show that the prince wished that this question should not be considered as between the king and himself. Colonel Grosvenor had come to the House inclined to favour the claims of the prince; but the arguments he had heard nad convinced him, that he could not venture upon the decision of the right. Mr. Johnstone expressed great surprise, that gentlemen who had opposed the vote on the civil list, could consent to load the public with the sums now claimed. It appeared to him to justify what had been said of public men, that they were indifferent about what sums might be imposed on the nation, until the contest was about, through whose hands they should pass. Mr. Calcraft thought the prince’s claim entitled to the attention of the House. Sir F. Burdettconceived that the cases of voting money to the civil list, and voting for examining into a claim of right by the prince of Wales were very different. It was the duty of every member to be jealous of the application of the civil list money, especially after repeated arrears had occurred, and when it was strongly suspected that the public money was unconstitutionally applied by ministers. No such jealousy was to be entertained of the prince. While this constitution existed, it was right that a suitable degree of splendor should be assigned to the prince. Surely there was no proportion in the extent, and none in the danger to be apprehended from the sums voted to the one, and the s ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ith contempt. The late administration had shown a marked disregard for the prince of Wales. He thought the prince almost one of the worst used men in the kingdom. Ministers had treated him with equal contempt as those whom they had confined in Cold Bath Fields. Indeed, they treated all those, of whatever rank or station, who did not support their measures, and would not be subservient to their views, with indignity or with rigour. Mr. Ellis said, he deprecated whatever brought burthens on the people, as much as any man; and as to the present question j he conceived it to be of that kind with which the House had nothing to do. 441] relative to the.Revenue of the Duchy of ComwdL A.D. 1802. [449 Earl Temple said, hd should have givefi a silent vote, were it not for what had fallen from the hon. baronet, which he thought made it necessary for every independent man to state his reasons for the vote he should give. His lordship then delivered his opinion, that the House was not a fit place for the discus, sioo of the prince’s right. Mr. Jones said, that the claims of the prince were comprehended in one word, and that was, justice. He thought the honour of the House, and the dignity of the empire were at stake: " Fiat justitia mat caelum.1 * Mr. Manners Sutton observed, that nothing could be more unfounded, than the assertion, that he came there to involve his majesty and the prince in variance; that could not possibly be the case; for the question was not between the prince and his majesty, but between the prince and the public. His majesty had no right to receive the revenues in question; nor, in fact did he receive them:they were received by the public; and he asked them of the latter in parliament, the only constitutional representative of the public. His learned friend had said, that the only remedy was by an adverse suit at law. He was not aware how this was practicable; as, in the opinion of one of the first legal authorities in the country (Mr. Hargrave ), no petition of right could lie with respect to personal property. He knew not by what rule of law the king could be called on to restore, even supposing his majesty to be the object of application; but he would repeat, that it the king did receive and should resist, the prince would not enforce his claim. The question being put, " That the other orders of the day be now read, " the House divided: Tellers. v, ., f Mr. Solicitor General Y"* iMr.Sargeot - J 160 vt, f Mr. Manners Sutton ... 7 lnQ Noes iMr.'eherid.n - j 103 So it was resolved in the affirmative. List of the Adair, Robert Andrews, Miles P. Aubrey, sir John BampfyJde, sir C. Barclay, George Barlow, Hugh Bastard, J. B. Minority. Beaumont, colonel Bird, W. W. Blackbourae, John Bouverie, hon. E. Bouverie, hon. E. D. Bouverie, hon. W. H. Brogden, James Bunbury, sir Charles Burch, J. R. Burdett, sir F. Calcraft, John Cavendish, lord G. Combe, H. C. Courtenay, John Crewe, John Darell, sir Lionel Denison, W. J. Dent, John Dickens, Francis Duodas, Charles Duudas, hon. C. L. Dundas, hon. L. Erskine, hon. T. Fane, F. Fitzpatrick, general Folkes, sir Martin Folkestone, viscount Foster, right hon. J. Fox, hon. Charles J. Fullarton, colonel Fuller, J. Garforth, J. B. Gascoyne, general Hare, James Howard, Henry Hussey, W. Huntingfield, lord Jeffreys, N. Jones, J. Tyrwhitt Johnstone, sir W. Kemp, Thomas Knight, R. P. Langton, Gore Langston, John Lygon, William, Lowther, sirW. Lemon, sir W. Laurence, Dr. Lubbock, John Lloyd, J. M. Lowther, colonel May, Ed. Morland, Wro. Milbanke, sir Ralph Morshead, sir John Milner, air W. Manning, Wm. Nicholls, John North, Dudley, Patten, colonel Palmer, John Plomer, W. Ponsonby, George Ponsonby, John Ponsonby, hon. W. B. Penn, Richard Porter, George Robson, R. B. Richardson, Joseph Ridley, sir M. W. Shakspeare, A. 8t. John, St. Andrew Stanley, lord Sturt, Charles Shum, George Spencer, lord Robert Stewart, St. John Sykes, sir Francis Smyth, T. Asheton Townshend, lord J. Taylor, M. A. Tay ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ers now than at the period of his elevation ? The right hon. gentleman accuses us of calumny; but have not all our assertions respecting the war, its origin, its progress, as well as its objects, been canvassed, and have not all furnished the subject of a direct charge? — On the subject of his 461] Vote of Thanks to the and speech iA 1792, the recollection of the right hon. gentleman seems a good deal to have failed. 1 happen to recollect the language which he then held. So far was he from apprehending any danger from the French revolution, that he declared he saw in that very revolution that the French government might become more powerful, but less dangerous. But admitting that in 1792 the right hon. gentleman was desirous of peace, no fair rea-coner will argue, that the disposition to peace existed in 1793, because it existed in the preceding year. In the interval, false calculations of the resources of France had been formed, and false estimates had been adopted of the effect of coalitions to subvert the liberty and independence of a great and powerful people. — But the right hon. gentleman is not content with defending his own conduct: he accuses us of despairing of the resources of the country, of leaving the House under such an impression, and of returning only for the purpose of obstructing the measures of government. I am not accountable to the right hon. gentleman for any part of my conduct. I wish, however, to say, that neither I, nor any of those with whom I acted, ever despaired of the resources of the country. We reprobated the system pursued by the late ministers; we opposed, to the utmost of our power, their destructive measures; and we predicted consequences of the most disastrous kind, and even ruin, as the result of adherence to such measures. But, with a system of moderation to foreign powers instead of insult and indignity, of laudable economy instead of lavish profusion, of constitutional liberty instead of unjustifiable infringements of the liberty of the subject, we never despaired of the fortunes of our country. We left parliament, not because we despaired of the national resources, but because our views and the views of ministers, supported by a great majority of the House, were so different, that we saw no good could be derived from our attendance. Since that time, occasions have occurred, where we have thought it our duty to resume our Elaces in this House. I, for one, must owever declare, that 1 have never attended without reluctance; and that my attendance has been dictated by an imperious sense of duty. Any apology for my conduct at present would be impertinent. My reasons for taking the step are sufficiently well known, and I leave the deci- Navy. A.D. 1802. [462 sion on them to the public; or, if they, cannot be fairly estimated by the public now, I leave them to the decision of an impartial posterity. If the right hon. gentleman looks back with pleasure to the whole conduct of his administration, I assure him, that I look back to the share I have had in opposition to his general system with no less satisfaction. Mr. Jones said, that whatever collusion might have been charged on the late and present ministers, this night afforded proof that there was none; whatever coincidence there might be in their language, they were at variance in fact; one sung the Te Deum of victory in repealing the income tax, the other pronounced its funeral oration. The nation had so unequivocally expressed their indignation at the degrading and oppressive nature of the tax, that he was sure no minister would ever dare to reinflict it on the country. He gave the minister credit for honest intentions, and would vote for other taxes to the amount, which every Englishman would bear rather than submit to that diabolical impost. Mr. Main-waring thanked the chancellor of the exchequer for repealing the income tax — a tax so oppressive and odious as to excite the horror and indignation of every class of the people; but he could not forbear ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- versally. But the fact is, that the inequality is great, and has greatly increased since the passing of this act; since it is certain, that if many benefices have increased in value, many have been comparatively depauperated by the Reformation. The appropriation of the church revenues to foe religious houses, was, in ancient times, a subject of loud and energetic complaint from parliament, This House represented, " That the religious men mischievously, under divers colours, appropriated benefices, and grievously threw down foe houses of the same to foe ground, and cruelly did take away and destroy divine service, hospi* tality, and other marks of charity; and the clergy from promotion did bar, in offence to God, confusion of their own souls, grievous desolation of their country, final destruction of the clergy, great impoverishment of foe kingdom, and irrevocable ruin of foe church of England.1* But the clergy, though pillaged of their glebe and tithes by the monks, had their resources. In market townB they had a variety of small devotional offices to perform for individuals, for which they were paid. In foe country they focmed from the monks the glebe wad tifoes which they formerly possessed; but their grand resource was in the authority or foe bishops, who had a power, and occasionally exercised it, to compel foe monks to raise their stipends, as foe times required. Temporary vicars, who answer to modern curates, had been rawed sac* cessivdy up to ten marks, consideratn temporum qualitate, which Speknan com- putes to be equal to 601. a year, and foe perpetual vicar was raised to twelve marks, equal to 70/. a year. They were single men, of small wants, and generally smaller learning: he who had Latin enough to read the office to those who could not read English, had no call for an expen* sive library. This statute, followed by the Reformation, struck a severe blow at their means of resistance. In foe country it put an end to foeir fanning foe glebe and tifoes, a grievance bitterly complained of by the convocation of the same year with this statute, which represented that foe statute had non-nihil iniquitatis in it, by robbing foe tniseros foe mi- serable vicars, of this advantage. The Reformation swept away in towns all foe traffic of private superstitious offices; but foe great blow was struck by the statute of Alienations, or rather by foe construe* tion which has since grown upon it, end which has now exonerated the impropriated parsonages, from any power of the bishops to provide for the better maintenance of foe officiating minister; for though the statute expressly reserved all rights, and transferred these church revenues to the crown, and consequently to its grantees, in foe same state and condi* tion " as they now be, as held by the religious houses!; " yet it is settled law, in later times, that these impropriations, being lay foes, are no longer subject to the authority of foe bishop. It is now, Sir, too late to undo what was done at the Reformation In this matter. The property has for 300 years passed into circulation, is become mmily inheritance, possessed by as good a title and as safe a conscience, as other family inheritance; but when I observe that it id to be lamented that a better provision was not at that time made out of these revenues for foe support of foe national reli* gion, I say no more than what is Support* ed by high authority, particularly by that of a person who was a great favourite and ornament of this House, and no partial friend to ecclesissUcal debus — Mr. 8d- 479] 42 GEORGE III. Debate in the Commons on the [480 den; and by that of another person of atill more elevated character, the ornament of his age and country! whose voice when not perverted by passions or interests of his own, was the voice of reason and philosophy itself! the great lord Bacon. The former expresses himself thus: " I doubt not but that every good man wishes that, at our dissolution, their land and tithes, and churches ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- d made to prevent men being brought into danger of trial without reasonable ground, — the intervention of a grand jury, or in cases of private libel an affidavit filed as to the fact. Add to this, the other abuse of introducing Special Juries in criminal cases, at first instituted for the mere purpose of determining upon merchants accounts by merchants, according to the spirit of the law; and we know how these juries are chosen, I may almost say picked out, by the master of the crown office. So that in the case of libel, a man is ex- posed to the expense and danger of trial at the will of the crown, prosecuted by the crown, before a jury chosen by the crown, and by judges dependent upon the crown for large salaries upon retiring from office; Star chamber sentences have been pronounced for the most trifling political offences, and men convicted ot libel have had judgment hanging over their heads for years, to the disgrace of the administration of justice, and let fall to crush them when they became obnoxious to mi* nisters. The judges too are in the unconstitutional habit of remanding to prison convicted persons to be brought up for judgment on the last day of term, and frequently in the term following, - by which means it is possible they may receive instruction from the court as to the sentences they shall pronounce. And for the first time a most dangerous precedent has been established of granting a new trial in a criminal case, an abuse which has hitherto been confined to cases of a civil nature; an abuse which converts the substantial protection of trial by jury into a mere shadow, which violates the great ruling principle of our criminal law that a man shall not be put in danger twice for the same offence, and which sets the judge above the law. And to compleat the whole, the attorney-general has dared to threaten juries, and talk to them of a writ of attaint. — The freedom of speech has been destroyed, and above fifty persons forbid to meet to discuss public grievances under penalty of death by military execution. — The trial by jury in multiplied instances, is almost all where taxes are concerned, and where the dispute being for property between the subject and the crown, there is most need of its protection, has been taken away; and the arbitrary jurisdiction of justices and commissioners substituted, in its place. Landed property has been confiscated to an immense amount, under the specious name of a sale of the land tax. This is the last expedient of a spendthrift profligate government, but no new scheme. Other countries have followed the same course, and been ruined by it. But what is the meaning of selling a tax ? What is a tax ? A tax is no property. What has a man purchased by it? Nothing, but the probability of an additional tax. Having purchased this, a new tax will be laid, which in its turn may be sold, as they call it, that is the landed proprietor may be called upon to 509] into the Conduct of the late Administration. A.D. 1802. [510 advance sixteen or seventeen, or eighteen years taxes at once, and if he refuse to be so cheated, deluded, and robbed as to purchase his own property, the government puts in a co-proprietor with him, having a prior claim upon his estate. A new land tax will then be laid, this may again be sold, and new proprietors put in upon him, so that in a course of years, by the simple operation of what is called the sale or the land tax, a gentleman of landed property may find himself in possession of nothing of his own estate but the title deeds. • The income tax has created an inquisitorial power of the most partial, offensive, and cruel nature. The whole transactions of a life may be inquired into, family affairs laid open, and an Englishman, like a culprit, summoned to attend commissioners, compelled to wait like a lacquey in their anti-chamber from day to day until they are ready to institute their inquisition into his property; put to his oath, after all perhaps disbelieved, surcharged and stigmatized as perjured, without any redress from or appeal to a jury of his country. And it is worth remarking too, that a little before the introduction of this unprincipled scheme of plunder, the law of perjury was altered, and the punishment made transportation to Botany Bay. Sir, the repeal of this tax is not sufficient remedy for its infamy; its principle must be stigmatized and branded. Add to this the innumerable wanton, harassing and disproportioned penalties to support our overgrown system of taxation, converting England into an Excise office, and one part of the people into spies and informers, to prey upon the other. The whole practice relating to custody has been changed, about which the wise and humane spirit of the old law of England was so scrupulously nice, as well it might, for upon that chiefly depends all the protection of those at the best ill-protected and unfortunate creatures, prisoners, who even with all that precaution most inevitably be left too much at the discretion of gaolers. Now, however, all protection is withdrawn, close custody and the infamous practice of changing from custody to custody, and of sending men to be imprisoned in distant places, one of the heaviest grievances complained of under the Stuarts, reintroduced contrary to the most sacred fundamental laws of the constitution. The treason laws, too, have been altered, because the old law of Edward Srd was too clear and distinct. They were bungling traitors, it was said, who could not avoid the operation of a law so well understood. Therefore they made new laws to insnare and entrap men's lives, introducing the horrible and atrocious doctrine of constructive and complicated treason. Meetings for parliamentary reform may be construed treason. Under the old law they bad tried it without success. It was too plain, and former wicked attempts had been worn out by adjudication.* Therefore, said ministers, we must have new laws, under which there have been no decisions, where the judge may range with discretion, wide as his conscience will permit, where there are no legal land-marks, no boundaries to direct or control; then we shall see who will dare to complain of any grievance, or even hint at reform. And whilst they make new laws, introducing the atrocious doctrine of constructive treason, they also make the judges who are to construe them, dependent upon the crown for large salaries when they retire from office. It was an accusation brought against Caligula, that he wrote his laws so small, and hung them up so high, that the people could scarcely read them; but our ministers go much farther — they make laws that every man can read, but that no man can understand. They have erected bastiles, they have chosen their military posts, and encircled the land with barracks in order, to use their own expression, " to make the soldiers deaf, if they could not make the people dumb." They have upon all occasions called in the military force, and neglected and degraded the civil power in the hands of the citizens.- — They nave organized a system of spies, undermining the morality, corrupting the integrity of the nation, poisoning every source of social happiness, destroying all confidence between man and man; and thus have they triumphed over the manners, habits, customs, and character of Englishmen. — They have contrived to destroy all sense of shame and honour amongst public men; so that the people can no longer place any dependence upon professions ever so public; for the samef man who is loud in professions of patriotism and reform today, shall have no longer the slightest difficultyfte recant tomorrow, leaving his most solemn pledges to the public, and his pawned honour un- 511] 42 GEORGE III. Sir Francis Burdetl's Motion for an Inquiry [512 redeemed, with only modestly confessing, that today he is grown wiser than he was yesterday.. So that all the ties of honest fellowship are dissolved, private honour, private friendship, public principle, all borne down by the overwhelming tide of corruption, which sets full in for despotism at home, which must assuredly produce final destruction from abroad. But our ministers have not only taken away ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- le — a degraded aristocracy — a confiding parliament, and irresponsible and indemnified ministers. What is there in this system so admirable, to recompense the people of England for the immense sacrifices they are called upon daily and hourly to make for its support. Sir, the situation of this country is, God knows, deplorable enough; but if we turn our eyes to Ireland, we shall find the des- Sotism completed there, of which the foun-ations deep and broad are laid here. Painful as is the recital of the woful measures pursued by ministers in Ireland, they are too important to be passed over, or to be lightly touched on. They must be fully exposed to the view of this House, and of the people of England, who, I am sorry to say, are either wholly ignorant of the transactions that have taken place in that ill-fated country, or, what is worse, have received a false account of them, propagated with uncommon assiduity by ministers and their agents. To remove this prejudice, and to enable the House to form an impartial opinion of the conduct of ministers, it will be necessary to take ground as far back as the cause which gave rise to these events. At the conclusion of the American war (a war undertaken precisely on the same principles as that against France J, out of 12,000 men, composing the standing army of Ireland, 9,000 were transported across the Atlantic to fight the battles of England in America; and Ireland, left to herself, exhibited the grand spectacle of a volunteer army, self-raised, self-paid, self-clothed, self-armed, not subject to martial law, a debating army, choosing its own officers, canvassing public measures, submitting to no other articles of war than public opinion, to no other mutiny bill than private honour. Then, too, France threatened invasion, but received no encouragement, because the people, though mal-treated, hoped the time of their deliverance was at band, and that an honest parliament, Such as they believed then sat, would redress. their grievances, which were listened to with attention, and discussed with temper and moderation. There were no laws passed to prevent public meetings, or t* throw obstacles in the way of petitions; the Habeas Corpus act was not suspended; there were no burnings, rapes, or massacres; military tribunals did not usurp the place of courts of justice; free quarters were unheard-of; torture was unknown. There were no Indemnity bills, government and its agents having committed none of those crimes which have since driven the people to madness. These were the reasons why France, if ever she had entertained an idea of a descent on Ireland, had not the temerity to put it in execution, well knowing that a nation so defended by citizen soldiers was invincible, and that discomfiture and shame must have attended the undertaking. And that war ended without any such attempt having been made by France, and that parliament closed its labours, afteHbaving effected the settlement of 1782, of which we have lately heard so much. A very short time, however, had elapsed before the Irish people perceived that the owners of the representation, for it was then, too, private property, were the only gainers; that the nation had only exchanged the direct legalized control of the English parliament, exercised at a trifling charge, for the indirect corrupt rrianagement of the British minister, worked at an enormous cost; and that the sj^stem, always radically bad was rendered still more vicious, by holding out a greater temptation to the parliament, from the increased wages of corruption, to betray the interests of Ireland, which have unfortunately, from a short-sighted policy, been always thought incompatible with the interests of this country. The people were quickly convinced by the multiplication of places, the appointment of monopolist natives to fill them, the formation of a national debt, the establishment of a national bank, which at first pleased the vanity of the inconsiderate, were, in fact, stores ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ith respect Co the difference between the definitive treaty and the preliminary articles, he would ask the House, whether, under all the circumstances, they were not satisfied that this definitive treaty was a fair execution of the preliminary articles i He admitted that they were not strictly the same; and indeed if they were, there would have been no occasion for preliminary articles. There were five articles in the definitive treaty modified from that of the preliminary articles; 1st, the article respecting prisoners; 2nd, that respecting Newfoundland; 3rd, Portugal; 4th, Malta; and, 5th, the Cape of Good Hope. Now, with regard to three of these articles, they were revived in the definitive treaty, and finally settled in a way that was advantageous — be meant those which related to the prisoners, Newfoundland, and Portugal; k was therefore only as to Malta and the Cape that any doubt could arise. Now, wkh respect to Portugal, be would sot say that, gentlemen had a wQfai misconception on that subject; but he really knew not how they could state the objections they had stated so often, after the explanations which had been given to them. He averred, again, that the treaty of. Badajos was known to his majesty's ministers previous to the signing of the preliminary articles, and that cornmunication took place between us and the court of Lisbon on the subject of the limits of Portuguese and French Guiana; we were given to understand the limits of Portuguese Guiana; and this created a determination in us to afford them every, protection possible; there was an apprehension that they would not meet their danger as danger ought to be met; and might therefore be induced to accept of terms still more disadvantageous than those in the treaty of Badajoe. What was the conduct of his majesty’s ministers ? From an understanding which gentlemen might comprehend without calling for particulars, it was stipulated on our part, that the treaty of Badajos should be in force only in a particular manner, as far as it related to the limits of Portuguese Guiana; and that a subsequent treaty entered into, or which might be entered into, fixing the limits more disadvantageous^ to Portugal, should be null and void, at far as these limits were concerned. The treaty of Badajos, in consequence of the dissatisfaction of the French, was not ratified; but the treaty of Madrid was ratified, in which the terms were much more disadvantageous to Portugal than those of the treaty of Badajos, as far as respected the limits of the Portuguese Guiana. The House would recollect the explanation of his noble friend upon that subject, by which it manifestly appeared that we had acted generously towards Portugal in this respect; and this was so far supported by the best evidence, that no objection was made to it on the part of the court of Lisbon. — On the subject of Malta, he would, * after so much bad been said already, say no more than that the noble lord (Temple) misconceived the thing, if he thought the accounts to which he referred described the whole of the order of Malta, in point of revenue; for it related only to that part of the revenue which grew out of the customs. It had been asked, whe- ther the king of Naples acquiesced in this matter } To which he answered, that the acceptance of the king of Naples had been signified in this particular, and therefore all objection on that article was done away. Austria had also accepted the guarantee.* — Having thus gone through all that appeared to him to be necessary to particularise, he would ask, whether this treaty was or was not, under all the circumstances, fit to be entertained by the House, and worthy of its support ? He was not desiring that it should be praised. He had never thought of this treaty, nor of the preliminary articles, with any sentiment of exultation; he had satisfied himself, that it was that which, upon the whole, was the best measure that could be taken; he had never endeavoured to paint it in fclse colours; ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- enthusiastic admiration and pride, than those who were immediate witnesses of the services which they had rendered to their country. For these reasons be thought that the objections of his hon. friends to the amendment were without foundation, and therefore it should have his cordial support. He begged the present administration to accept his praise and gratitude, as an individual, for having conferred the blessings of peace upon the nation. Mr. WhUbndd said, it would, in his opinion, have been policy in the noble lord who moved the amendment to have couched it in such terms as would have met the sanction of the whole House; and to enable him to vote for the amendment, he must move for certain words to be omitted. The question being put, that the words proposed to be left out, stand part of the question, The House divided: Tellers. v..D f The Earl Temple YEAS {General Gascoyne - J W f General Maitland 1 0 NoM iMr. Bond . - - - J276 Mr. Windham’s motion consequently passed in the nSgatite. The amendment proposed by Mr. Sheridan was then put find negatived. The amendment proposed by lord Hawkesbury was adopted without a division, and the House adjourned at half past four in the morning. List of the . Bruce, lord Baker, W. Cooke, Bryan Chamberlayne, W. Dundas, Charles Ellis, George Ellis, Charles Elliot, W. Foljambe, F. Folkestone, viscount Grenville, Thomas Kensington, lord Lennox, general Laurence, Dr. Morpeth, lord Poynta, W. Windham, rt hon. W. Wynn, sir W. W. Wynn, C. W. Young, sir W. Tellers. Temple, carl Gascoyne, general China of the Prince of Wales."] May 10. Mr. Tyrvohitt said, he was sure the House would hear with pleasure, that the claims of the illustrious personage in whose service he was, had at last found 809] Butt-bailing Bill A.D. 1902. [830 (heir tray into a court of jnotice. However, he trusted (he House would not think the time wasted which they bad employed in considering those claims, when they were told that his Royal Highness’s petition of right during the time of the late lord chancellor had lain in the office six years and a half, without receiving an answer. If the learned judge, who now held the seals, should he against the claims of his Royal Highness, they must rest for ever, but, he trusted that the able and honourable men, whose legal assistance the prince of Wales had, would find their opinion confirmed by that of the chancellor. In that case, he should deem it his duty to lay the result before the House. He took that opportunity of stating, that since the year 1795, 525,000^ had been paid of his Royal Highness’s debts, not from the public purse, but from a portion of his income set apart for that purpose. He hoped that the sum it would be found his Royal Highness was entitled to would enable him to pay what still remained; for it would give nim the liveliest satisfaction to be able to pay his own debts with his own means. Debate in the Commons on the Bullbaiting Bill."]May 24. Mr. Dent having moved, that the bill to prevent Bull-baiting and Bull-runuing, be read a second time. Sir Richard Hill said: — Sir, I rise in behalf of a race of poor friendless beings who certainly cannotjspeak for themselves. I shall, however, be brief, being well assured, that if the voice of common sense, common humanity, and uncommon distress and misery cannot be heard, all I can say will be of no avail. Instead, therefore, of multiplying words, I shall bring forward some facts, which I hope will prove the means of setting forth the barbarous custom of bull-baiting in its true light. Sir Richard then read some passages which he had selected, mentioning the shocking cruelties which had been inflicted on a poor animal, in order to make him furious enough to afford diversion to his brutal tormentors; but the tortured creature soon becoming outrageous, he was entangled with ropes, his hoofs cut off, and baited again, whilst he feebly sustained and defended himself on his stumps. He then brought a striking citation from ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o propose goes on different grounds frdra any other that has heretofore been submitted to the deliberation of parliament. It certainly seta out with great difference of circumstances in this respect — that if there be consistency in man, those persons who have been the most violent opponents of every former measure for the restriction of the slave trade, are bound to support this; the moderate men, and the West Indians. To the West Indians, indeed, I have still other . arguments to address, — those of their interest, which are manifestly in my favour; but for the present 1 am contented to appeal to their consistency. There remain, then, but two classes of persons from which I could apprehend any difference of opinion: the first a 6mall, I hope, and select class, those who admire the slave trade for itself, who deem of it, as Cicero did of virtue, that it requires only to be looked at to be beloved. — " Quae si videretur incredibilem amorem excitaret sui.M With men holding that opinion I can have no argument. It requires a degree of fellow-feeling to be able even to differ in discussion to any purpose. One must settle at what point the difference begins; but such persons must have their minds altogether so differently constituted, their sentiments, affections, and passions must be so unlike any thing that I can conceive, that I avow my incapacity to understand them, and my despair of making them understand me. To their opposition, therefore, I must make up my mind; but I trust to theirs only. — The other class to which I have alluded is one whose opposition I should be concerned to have to encounter; that of those with whom from the beginning I have cordially agreed in opinion respecting the necessity of abolishing the slave trade. I trust it will not be felt by such persons, that the proposition which I offer, because a modified is an unsatisfactory one. I know that in minds of a sanguine cast such a feeling is sometimes apt to prevail; that partially to redress a grievance is often erroneously conceived and represented as giving sanction and establishment to all that part which you leave as you found it; and that this feeling is sometimes even carried so far as to rejoice in any increase of the grievance, from the notion that it must ensure and accelerate the total remedy. But this doctrine is 6urely to be received with some Qualification. First, indeed, it may possibly be true, where those who are to bear the ill, and those who are to administer the remedy, are the same persons. 867] 42 GEORGE III. Mr. Canning's Motion respecting the [968 so low as to be almost ruinous to the planter; and the duties so far from being likely to flow into the exchequer in greater amount, that they were now obliged to be bonded. He did not mean to say that all this might not change and right itself in time; that the markets of Europe might not re-open, the glut find vent, and the prices rise; but he applied his argument to the now state of things, to the existing interests of the present race of West Indians, of those whose immediate interests had always been found powerful enough with the House to defeat all measures for the diminution of the slave trade; and he must ask, when those same interests were found in opposition to the increase of that evil, by what arguments they were to be prevented from having the same effect ? Would you increase the slave trade, would you prejudice the West Indian interest, m order to feed a market already glutted, to lower prices already miaous to the seller, and to swell a revenue which you are already obliged to bond? In truth, said Mr. Canning, there is now no pretence of interest, none of necessity, in favour of an increased cultivation of West Indian produce, at the price of an increased slave trade. If we consent to the increase of the slave trade for such a purpose at this moment, we do an act not only of voluntary wickedness, but of individual injustice. It may be asked of those who have, at different times, rejected the plea of West Indian interest when urged in favour of the slave trade, how it happens that they now become the advocates of those interests ? For this plain reason, that our hostility was always directed against the slave tr ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- some immoveable preju-1 [3S] 995] 43 GEORGE 11L dice of Mr. Windham, a man of his enlarged understanding could not see political events and affairs in the light he did. Before we were engaged again in war, we should look at our revenue, and see that it be improved: we should look the whole of our situation in the face — look at and provide against all our dangers; attend to the dearest interest of our country; but we should consider wherein that interest consists. Let us remember, that, dear as are army and navy, our revenue, our trade, and our commerce, and all our resources, that yet above all our army, above all our navy — that was to say, above all our soldiers — ay, and above all our sailors too — above all our commerce, and above all our wealth, and the preparation which that wealth enabled us to make, there was one more important than all the rest to a free country, and that was the disposition of the people, that was, that its government should possess the hearts of the people; but he begged leave to warn ministers against the possible event of creating a clamour for war, by exciting the resentment of the people against some detestable acts of tyranny in another power, and of taking advantage of it, to involve the country in war; the effects of which, when the people began to reflect, would be dismal. He entreated that they would, as far as possible, inform the people of their situation; give a right feeling of their danger; observing, that if they hurried on the people to war, without this caution, they would deserve the severest censure; and, he had almost said, the execration of their countnrmen. He thought that ministers acted on the true policy of this country, by endeavouring to restore to it the blessings of peace. He hoped they would turn their thoughts to all species of internal improvements, to the economy, to reformation of abuses, to the improvement of the education of youth, as the best way to improve morals, to the redress of all species of grievances, as the best way to continue the attachment of the whole people to that constitution and state of tilings, that rendered us at once the admiration of the whole world, and marked us out as a people enjoying the greatest blessing it had yet pleased Providence to bestow on mankind — a government, under which liberty was enjoyed, and property protected, and all the comforts of human life better secured, than any other age or country had yet Debate in the Commons [996 felt. With all these blessings, and with all this power to preserve them and sense to enjoy them, he could not help wishing that we might try the advantages of peace, and avail ourselves of them, and shun all indefinite continental connexions; above all, to enter into no engagements hastily or precipitately, on the ground of any supposed readiness in the public for bos* tility, od account of some recent instances of flagrant injustice. He wished rather to obtain the sentiments of the middle class of society, who, generally speaking, were the best informed, and who had and who felt an immediate and direct identity of interest with the public at large — a class of men whose opinion, although never neglected in this country, had not perhaps all the weight it deserved. He concluded with observing, that if this course was taken by government, we should have nothing to fear from the enormous size of the French republic. What if they were 50 millions of men — did that constitute the strength of the chief consul of France I Rather his weakness, if left to themselves; for multitudes of them must hate the system by which they are become subject to their present yoke. Time, therefore, would remove all apprehension in this respect. It was natural to expeet, that if this unwieldy mass was left to itself, it would, in time, change its condition — it could not be otherwise; for moral causes were certain of their effects, whereas the effect of human policy was. always uncertain. The way to produoe the dissolution of th ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ught that to embark in foreign connexions at this time. 1113] Debate on the Army Estimates. A.D. 1802. [1114 would be to expose ourselves to such consequences. If the House and the country had acquiesced in the peace, and the unsatisfactory state of the continent on which the peace 'was concluded, the same acquiescence was demanded on every principle of policy and common sense. The learned gentleman bad been offended at charges produced against the late administration, and had called on an hon. baronet to come forward and produce the proof on a regular inquiry. He was really astonished to hear gentlemen making use of such language. Had he and those with whom he had the honour of acting been slack in demanding inquiry into the conduct of the late ministers? Had they not from year to year proposed inquiry, and had not the friends of ministers as generally resisted all investigation ? With much more justice might this charge be retorted on the learned gentleman and his friends of the new opposition. They were indeed liable to a charge of inconsistency, which they would not find it so easy to repel. Supporting every public measure, they still were dis-satisfied with ministers. They were perpetually accusing them of imbecility, and yet never had they the manliness to prefer against them a specific charge. He was very pointed on the subject of the German indemnities, which he condemned as a system of the most gross violation of all honesty and justice, and adduced this as an additional reason why, for the present at least, German alliances should be avoided. He should rejoice in any plan to reduce French influence on the continent, but of this there was at present uo rational prospect. With regard to Holland, there was nothing he so much lamented as the acqui* sition of influence which France had gained in that country, connected as it was with Belgium; but he saw no use in constantly complaining on this subject, unless some means could be pointed out of redressing the grievance. Mr. Windham said, that the speech of his learned friend had been complained of as long. Long it might be by the clock; but certainly not by the matter it contained. With regard to the affair of the Prince of Orange, his learned friend had een called to that subject by what an hon. gentleman had stated respecting foreign powers. That was a very erroneous opinion; and it was proper that his learned friend should refute the charge against Austria and other states. By our honesty, " of which the hon. gentleman* had said so much, was, perhaps, meant this, that foreign powers should be bound to us, but not we to them. If this country had been in such danger as Austria was previous to the treaty of Luneville, he believed those who held this language would have been the first to cry out that we ought to take care of ourselves, and think no more of our allies. The business with regard to the prince of Orange was a gross fraud upon this country. It might be guessed, from what the right hon. gentleman had stated, that this indemnity was to be made up by hard English guineas. What, then, became of our point of honour i Capt. D’Auvergne’s case was another point which he thought might convince the hon. gentleman (Mr. Fox ), that the honour of the country was not perfectly safe. It was said, that ministers practised at once conciliation and firmness. This brought to his recollection the story of a man, reputed religious, who having committed a dishonourable transaction, excused himself by saying to a bishop, " my lord, it was only a pious fraud." The bishop, however, answered, that he could distinguish the fraud, but not the piety; so he, with respect to ministers, could easily see the conciliation, but could not discover an atom of the firmness. He agreed perfectly that there was no retreat for this country in meanness. It was with us, aut Ccesar, nuUus. We must be a great nation or nothing ? He wished to know where the Eoint of honour so much talked of was to e found. It i ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t they contained an injunction from his majesty, directing the Admiralty to inquire info the abuses complained He thought that, by taking away the duties of the greater offices, such as the bill proposed to do with respect to the Admiralty, and instituting an intermediate power between them and parliament, the responsibility was proportionably diminished. He would rather say give to the Admiralty Board additional powers, and make them responsible to the House. He regretted to see the House departing from its usual jealousy with respect to the iofluence of the crown, by the open* ing for its members new sources of employment. Mr. Sturges observed, that much had been said of the great achievements of the noble earl at the head of the Admiralty, in which he was ready to concur; but he felt himself obliged to state, in justification of his own conduct, that he thought that noble earl’s management, since his accession to office, not entitled to confidence, particularly when he recollected that he had brought two deserving officers to trial upon charges from which they were hoooorably acquitted. This was one reason for the jealousy he entertained of the proceedings of the Admiralty. He contended, that such parts of their conduct as had obtained popularity, were merely in the pursuance of the plans and recommendations of their predecessors. Mr. R. Ward said* that in Keble’s Reports there existed an account of the origin and powers of a commission appointed in the reign of Charles 2nd to inquire into a misapplication, under his majesty’s authority, of money granted by the Commons for the expenditure of the navy. In the patent the commissioners were authorized to commit persons refusing to own the authority of their inquiry; so that those persons should stand committed without bail or mainprise. As the commission was intended to act with an inquisitorial and checking power in some sort against the king himself, the precedent could not be regarded as unduly hostile to the liberty of the subject. How, then, could gentlemen oppose this bill, on the pretence that the powers which it went te grant were novel and unconstitutional ? The Attorney-General said, be had not heard the slightest reason assigned for postponing the bill. It was therefore obvious, that gentlemen were fighting merely for the triumph of protracting a measure, against which they had been unable to assign any solid objection. Bari Temple reprobated die practice of 1143] 43 GEORGE III. Debate in the Lords on the [1144 Imputing improper views1 to gentlemen who opposed ministers. If it was resolved to press this measure, he wished to knows whether the gentlemen nominated in the bill had signified their intention of accepting the office of commissioners, and also how far back it was proposed that they should go in their inquiries; whether they were to examine the abuses of the navy in the reign of James the 2nd, Mr. Sheridan concurred in the sentiment of the noble lord, that it was improper to ascribe unworthy motives to any member; and that declaration, he ironically observed, came with peculiar grace from the noble lord; for he not only professed respect for the principle, but regard for the practice. The present ministers were, according to that noble lord’s assertion, weak, incapable men: they were a milk and water composition, a mere mawkish mixture; but there was no personality in all this! When ministers stated that the bill was suggested by the report of the committee of finance, the noble lord denied the assertion, and charged them with using false pretences, but there was no personality in that! It was all consistent from the noble lord! The necessity for this bill was so glaring, that he was surprised at the objections that were made to it; when it was considered that the peculations committed in the naval department, for the last ten years, amounted to three millions a year. An hon. gentleman had stated that this would be an ex-post facto law; but how was it to be otherwise A s ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ve obscurity. Was the committee prepared to say, that his Royal Highness should remain in this situation of comparative obscurity four years longer ? It should be recollected, that the House had not paid one shilling towards the discharge of the debts of his Royal Highness for the last eight years. He wished it to be remembered also, that parliament had no embarrassment whatever in this case; for, at the time of the last arrangement, no pledge whatever was entered into of not considering the subject again:every member was therefore at liberty to act as a due sense of duty should dictate. He did not wish to interrupt the plan adopted to prevent the accumulation of any future debts. What he wished to do was, to enable his majesty to grant to the prince the same income as hehad previous to the arrangement of his affairs, namely, 60,000 /.per annum. This, he was persuaded, would not appear e» 1201] the Situation of the Prince of Wales. A.D. 1803. [1202 cessive, when it was considered, that 90 years ago, a prince of Wales had 90,000l. per annum, and that his Royal Highness, in 1795, had oniy 138,000l. and which was not then supposed to be more than sufficient to support his state and dignity; and that which was in 1795. deemed no more than sufficient, must be admitted to be moderate indeed at the present moment, considering the great change which had taken place in the value of money during the last eight years. He was as much attached to economy, as any one; but he would ask with confidence, was the state of this country such as to make us doubt its sufficiency to provide for his Royal Highness the additional sum of 60,000l. thereby placing him only in the situation he was in at a period of war, and now we were in a period of peace ? An hon. gentleman was desirous of knowing, whether any compromise had taken place on the occasion. He wished to be distinctly understood on this subject. He could say with perfect satisfaction, that if lie had never heard one word of the petition of right, the proposition he was about to submit he should have voted for, let it come from whatever quarter it might in that House. He thought it essentially necessary to the splendor of the prince of Wales. And when he said splendor, he did not mean that vain ostentation which thoughtless persons mistook for splendor. He spoke not merely of equipage, and external appearance, though these were not to be totally disregarded in such an elevated station, but he meant something of much greater value, that of enabling his Royal Highness to be munificent to merit, to promote, by his countenance, great and liberal undertakings. He wished to see the prince of Wales placed in a situation to receive the due attentions of the nobility and gentry, to be able to return them the comforts of hospitality, and to receive them in a manner suitable to his own rank and their wishes; for on this much depended of that intercourse between a prince and the higher classes of the subjects of this realm, which contributed so much to the harmony of the state, and which was therefore much to be cherished. He should now move, " That his majesty be enabled to grant a yearly sum, or sums of money, out of the consolidated fund of Great Britain, not exceeding, in the whole, the sum of sixty thousand pounds; to take place, and be computed from the 5th day of January 1803, and to continue until the 5th day of July 1806, towards providing for the better support of the station and dignity of his Royal Highness the Prince of Wales.' * The Solicitor-General (Mr. Manners Sutton) said:— Sir, in offering my sentiments to the committee I feel, in common with them, the great importance of the subject, as well as the dignity of the illustrious personage to whom it relates. But although I cease to have the honour of being in the service of his Royal Highness, yet I have the satisfaction of retaining, what to my mind is much more valuable, the confidence of his Royal Highness. In stating to the House the sentiments of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['petition of right']; Petition of Right ['petition of right']; Petition of Right ['petition of right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ween the situation of his Royal Highness and that of his illustrious predecessors. Sir Ralph Milbank said, that it was notorious, that the prince had lived in a state of comparative obscurity, for the last eight years, and that it was time to restore him to that state and splendor, which became his exalted rank. Mr. Harrison objected to the manner of granting this annuity, as a boon to his Royal Highness, when it was clear, that he was a creditor to the public, for more than the amount of his outstanding debts. The solicitor general had informed them, that legal opinions were agreed upon that subject. Although for his part, he did not think the dignity or monarchy depended upon its trappings, yet when he saw splendor in every corner of the court, and in all its appendages, he saw no reason why the prince of Wales should be the only person from whom it was withheld. Lord Castlereagh was of opinion last year, when this matter was first suggested, that the time was come for restoring the prince to the full dignity and comforts, which became his rank; but as the claims of the prince then came forward in a more legal shape, it was necessary to await a legal decision. He perfectly approved however of the feeling which dictated that course, namely, that the prince wished rather that his debts should be paid out of his own means, than that he should appear burthensome to the public. Mr. Sheridan said, he preferred so much the character of his Royal Highness to his comforts, that if this was to be represented to the public as a boon to the prince (who had comedown to parliament a third time for payment of his debts ), he was not prepared to say that be should support it. The fact was this, the prince had in the course of the last session, applied for the restoration of his right, not on his own account, but for the sake of his creditors: there was a long discussion both historical and political, on his claims, but the house resolved that they could do nothing in it. A petition of right was then proceeded upon, but suddenly the proceedings were stopped, and this message came down to the House. The right hon. gentleman objected to the word compromise, but it was because he considered it a fair and honourable com* promise, that he supported it. As to the petition of right, it would have been very doubtful when it coaid have been decided. The glorious uncertainty of the law, was a thing well known and complained of, by all ignorant people, but all learned gentlemen considered it as its greatest excellency. He therefore thought this was a fair and honourable compromise, but he wished the House to bear m their minds, that his Royal Highness considered himself in honour and in justice bound to pay his creditors the 10/. per cent which the commissioners had reduced of their demands; and until that was done, his Royal Highness could not resume conscientiously, nor in honour, his state and dignity. The Chancellor of the Exchequer explained this circumstance in the following manner: for all the debts which were fairly and justly due, there were given to the creditors, who were at liberty to accept them at their option, debentures of 100/. bearing 3 per cent interest, or 90/. bearing 5 per cent: these who preferred the 90/. could not be said to have their debt reduced, as by law, no interest at all was due on debts, which were merely book debts. He was glad that this measure would silence for ever the petition of right. Although legal opinions had said, that the prince was entitled to an account of the revenues of Cornwall, 1205] *ht Situation of the Print* of Waks. A.D. 1803. [1206 no one had said, that in that account, no allowances were to be made for money expended for his use; but at all events, if there were a legal judgment, the fund was gone on which it was to be a lien; and if the prince should be obliged at length to come to parliament for its equitable interpretation of the judgment, it would let in an account between the public and the prince, which it was much better not to go into. He concluded by maintaining, that there had been no deduction made from the debts of the creditors. Mr. Fox said: — Sir; I feel myself called upon to rise in consequence of the allusion made to the transactions of 1795, in which I took so considerable a part. In that year I considered the business was closed, and therefore I conceive any allusion to the business of 1787 extremely improper. The only question is, whether, after eight years of privation, the prince shall be restored to the possession of his full income, and be enabled to resume that state which it is consistent with the dignity of the nation that he should maintain. If we were arguing this proposition simply, and without reference to any thing that may add strength to the claim, I should say, we should be guilty of the greatest severity, if we did not agree in die propriety of such a measure. But if for eight years his Royal Highness has submitted to a system of restraint and privation, if there are, besides, other reasons which enforce his Royal Highness’s title, are not these grounds why an addition should now be made to his income ?* — Is there sny one member who did not believe at the time the system so long pursued was established, that before eight years should have elapsed his Royal Highness’s income would have received an addition ? The claim of his Royal Highness for the arrears of the revenues of the duchy of Co ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['petition of right']; Petition of Right ['petition of right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ouse may say, " We give you a great income, and leave you to determine the use you shall make of it; what claims you shall think legal, and what binding in honour." I certainly think, that if 73,000l. a year were given, and his Royal Highness were desired to have lords of the bed-chamber, and every thing else of that kind, the consequence would be, that, by creating a great establishment before the proper time, new incumbrances would accumulate, and a necessity would arise for coming again to parliament. I think the best advice we can give is, to say to his Royal Highness, " Consider your income, and determine what degree of state you will assume, and when you will assume it." But if it is determined that he shall assume this state immediately, let an application be made to parliament for further aid. To this last proceeding I could have no objection, particularly when his Royal Highness abandons the claims arising out of the duchy of Cornwall. But I deprecate-all idea of an application, as in 1787. If it is determined that his Royal Highness shall resume his state immediately, I would say to parliament, Extinguish not only the debts, but the embarrassments, and place his Royal Highness at once in that state in which he has never been, I had almost said, since his birth, but certainly never since his coming to man’s estate; in which he may say, here is an income on which I may live in a manner becoming my rank and dignity. Mr. Bankes strongly objected to the resolution, because it went to debar the prince from pursuing his claim on the revenues of the duchy of Cornwall. It was not fair to make such a compromise with his Royal Highness; nor was the House dealing fairly with itself. Was it not fit that the situation of princes of Wales hereafter should be known and ascertained ? What was in future to become of the money during the minority of a prince I Was he to understand that it was not to be applicable to his use ? He saw no inconvenience that could arise from a petition of right. The resolution was then agreed to. Feb. 25. His Majesty’s Message on 1209] the Situation of the Prince of Wales. A.D. 1803. [1210 the subject was taken into consideration In the House of Lords. Lord Pelham, after a few preliminary observations, moved an address to his majesty. Lord Carlisle seconded the motion, but wished the question had been decided on the petition of right. After a few words from lord Moira, in praise of the conduct of his Royal Highness upon this occasion, the address was agreed to dies. Communication from the Prince of Wales to the Commons.'] Feb. 28. Mr. Tyrwhitt, keeper of the privy seal, and private secretary to the Prince of Wales, acquainted the House, " That the Prince has felt with the most sincere and affectionate gratitude, the gracious purpose of his majesty in recommending his present situation to the consideration of parliament: — That, having seen, by the votes of the House of Commons, the manner in which they have received his majesty’s recommendation, the Prince deems it incumbent on him to express his warmest acknowledgment of their t liberality. At the same time, the Prince, though fully convinced of the propriety of resuming his state, and gTeatly regretting any circumstance which tends to disappoint the wishes of his majesty, or of the House, upon that subject, yet feels himself bound explicitly to declare, that there are still claims remaining upon his honour and his justice, for the discharge of which he must continue to set apart, in trust, a large sinking fund, and consequently postpone, until the period of their liquidation, the resumption of that state and dignity, which, however essential to his rank and station, he knows, from dear bought experience, could not, under his present circumstances, be resumed, without the risk of incurring new difficulties. The Prince thinks that he owes it to himself and to parliament, to make this declaration to them with the same distinctness as he stated it to his majesty’s government upon the first communication made to him of his majesty’s benign intentions. With respect to the Prince’s claim to an account of the revenues which accrued from the duchy of Cornwall, from the year 1762 to 1783, however strong his confidence in the validity of his claim, a confidence fortified by the greatest legftl authorities, yet, as he trusts that, through the gracious ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- uty to withhold that recommendation. It was impossible for the House to suppose that his majesty, in fhb message of the 16th February, had it id contemplation to refer to any debts dodtroctedby the Princesince 1795. These debts, if there were any, might be such ns ft WOuld be highly honourable to his Royal Highness to wish to discharge, but tftdy were debts Which it was impossible for that House to examine. It would be disgraceful to have entered on the Journals ft mild proceeding for the payment of debts. — ‘There Was another point adverted td this night, and to which he referred With extreme pain; he meant the revenues Of the duchy of Cornwall. One bon. gentleman had said, that the Prince had not been any burthen to the public. He knew that this question never could be put in that House in the invidious shape of which it was capable; gentlemen said, that this was an application, not to the liberality, but the justice of the House, and that his Royal Highness had made a great sacrifice in this case; for that if he had proceeded in his claim, the result would have enabled him to pay all [4IJ n 210] 43 GEORGE III. Debate on . Crier offs Motion £1209 hia debts, and that he ought to be in a better situation than he will be placed by the bill before parliament. Now, with respect to the right, it was a point on which he did not think himself capable of forming a perfect opinion. The solicitor-general had spoken upon the auestion as a point in which there would be no difference of opinion after full consideration. Now, his learned friend was not right if he imagined there was no difference of opinion; for the learned lord, at the head of the law in England had expressed an opinion unfavourable to the claim of right. He might entertain some doubts upon the question; but certain it was, he had never expressed any opinion in favour of the claim of right. With regard to the learned lord at the head of the law in Ireland, he had never expressed any opinion in favour of this petition of right. It was therefore a little too much to say there was an unanimity of opinion among the most learned men upon this very intricate question. He could only say for himself, that had there been no proceeding whatever on the subject matter of the petition of rigbl^ if lie had never heard of it, he should have been of opinion, that the Prince, . under all the circumstances, ought to have had that which had been lately voted him. — The whole of the money expended by his majesty, and advanced out of the civil list, during the minority of the prince of Wales, was 195,000l. The suns of5,000l. being allowed for the first nine years, the whole charge became 250,000l.; exceeding the receipts of the duchy during that period, by 17,000l. This being the state of the account, was it probable that those who opposed this motion, did so, from any apprehension of the result? For if his Royal Highness was entitled to the proceeds of the duchy of Cornwall, and that had been sufficient, there would not have been any provision for him out of the civil list, which was made to him from 1773 to. 1783. From 1783 down to 1787, his majesty advanced on account of the Prince* out of the civil list, at the rate of 50,000l. a year, and from that period down to the present, his majesty advanced out of the civil list 60,000l. amounting in all to 1, 600,000l. He was compelled also to state, that the money that had been deducted from that sum which had been once voted to the Prince of Wales to support his rank, and applied to the payment of his debts, amounted to 800,000l. principal and interest. Under these circum- stances, it wan too much to have it charged on ministers, or parliament, that there bad been withheld from his Royal Highness that which he clearly ought to have, and that be had made sacrifices to the public. That the public interest wa» recognised in the public dignity of the Prince of Wales, he admitted; yet it was-of less importance to the honour of the Prince himself, as well as to all ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Criminall (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'criminall' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the people’s election. It would be extending that dangerous power of the crown — dangerous he would call it, and the history of the nation had shown the danger of it, for the first attack of all those who meditated the subversion of British liberty was upon corporate towns, upon those charters which formed the best security of popular rights, and the most effectual control on ministerial power. Nottingham was about to lose its privileges for exercising its control. The independent spirit of its corporation was to be the cause of that privation. It was mockery to attribute it to riots; for riots had happened in almost every corporate town; and was that to be received as a reason for invading charters ? Was it to be said, " because the peace of your town has been disturbed by an election riot; your corporate rights shall be done away, and we shall give the government of your town to the king's magistrates." Such was the language of the bill before the House. The provisions of this bill would not be quite so bad if they applied to riots only; if they were confined to that, yielding to bad times and to bad principles, he perhaps, though he would not like it, might not oppose it; but in its present shape it was utterly inconsistent with his ideas of justice or constitutional freedom. Mr. Bond said, that the operation of Uie bill was not, to create any magistracy, but to extend the authority of a magistracy already created; and that an act of parliament may do this, without any invasion of the prerogative of the crown, he had many analogous cases to show. The preamble of the bill did not merely state the late riots at Nottingham, but took notice of many former riots; and the single question now propounded to the House, was, whether they should apply a remedy to that evil? If any member on reading the whole of the evidence, would say that the mayor of Nottingham deserved praise, he had a temper and a mode of thinking not to be envied. The magistrates of Nottingham were criminally responsible for their conduct at the late election; but there were many material circumstances of extenuation in their case; and therefore, it was his wish, that lenient measures should be adopted; but if he could have no remedy such as this bill proposed, he must pursue these magistrates as criminals. With regard to the justice of the case, he would inquire, whether this was an invasion of the rights of any parties? and if it was, whether it was strictly necessary? Confining the right of election to a few, might render that right valuable; but it was not for the value of it to a magistrate that the power was given to him; it was for the advantage of the place where he was to act; and if that advantage was not accomplished by the office being properly filled up, the interference of that House was necessary. This was particularly the case of corporations: from the nature of their constitutions, if their magistrates did not properly fill up their situations, they became a blot upon the character; for the inhabitants of a chartered corporation had none of the common privileges of another place. They were not like common subjects. To cure the evil of their magistrates’ inefficiency, they had no advantages but their charter, which, if their magistrates did not do their duty, they could not enjoy; so that they might be said to be left out of the reach of the law. This was the case of the town of Nottingham. The truth was, that at Nottingham! they were used to riots. This was not only the case at an election for a member of parliament, but of every election whatever. It had been said, that the magistrates of Nottingham had received the thanks of the judges once; now, he had information that riots often happened 1939] 43 GEORGE III. Debate in the Gontmom on the [1940 at the time of the assizes at Nottingham. It was said there was nothing like this bill to be found any where; whereas there were many cases analogous to this. The power of magistrates under charter had been ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Criminall (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'criminall' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- he borough interfere with those of the county, and this principle was recognised in a statute of Henry 7th, which he cited. There was also an Irish act, 38 Geo. 3rd, c. 73, by which the magistrates of the counties can go to all the boroughs to convict those who are guilty of selling spirituous liquors contrary to law. The Coventry case was likewise analogous. AH these showed that •parliament had interfered in the conduct of magistrates in boroughs, as well as in places without charters, when the public welfare could not be supported by these chartered customs. He must express an anxious wish, that independent gentlemen should act for Nottingham; and if that was not to be the consequence of the bill, it would be useless. But how could it be required, that a person who was to act as a magistrate under the authority of this 'bill, should take out a dedimus potestatem, for the purpose of merely running his head into a riot, without having any means of preventing it ? Magistrates had much to do in a quiet way, as well as acting on occasions of actual riot. He believed, that if the House adopted this biH, they would adopt the best means that had yet been offered to remedy a considerable evil, and that the magistrates would become, what they ought to be, a protection to the good, and a terror to the wicked. Mr. Peter Moore, in a maiden speech, said, that he thought the magistrates had neglected their duty in this case. He had witnessed some riotous proceedings at Coventry. In the ousiness of Nottingham there was much to lament, and much to correct; but he saw nothing in the report upon this subject which the magistrates of that town were not now competent to correct. He thought that every necessary provision should be made to prevent the recurrence of the evil without overturning the constitution of the borough. There was nothing wanting but to awaken the magis- trates out of their dormancy, and that was to be effected by making them feel the severities of the law, for criminally neglecting their duty. Mr. Grey complained that the resolutions of the committee were deficient in precision. They made heavy charges against the magistrates of Nottingham, without specifying those parts of the evidence on which the charges were supported. He could not but consider the bill as a bill of disfranchisement. He wished to 'know distinctly in what the fault of the magistrates of Nottingham consisted ? Was it in their want of power, or their want of inclination, to preserve the peace of the town ? It had not been proved that they were censurable in either of these respects. The learned gentleman had spoken of the lenity of the bill. Now what was the situation of the parties to whom this boasted lenity was applied ? Are they not men anxious that every part of their conduct should be investigated. But, in the absence of all conclusive testimony against them, labouring under a charge of the most foul and atrocious kind, and denied all opportunity or means of repelling, they deprecated a measure which went to deprive them of a most important constitutional privilege. In whatever point of view the subject was considered, the remedy proposed was inadequate. Was it meant to be said that the magistrates fomented disturbances? In support of so serious a charge, there was not a tittle of evidence. He had to say then, that during the absence of riots, there was no evidence of the inadequacy of the magistrates to preserve the good order of the town. AH that was therefore necessary was, that additional power should be given when the existence of riots rendered the ordinary police of the town inadequate to the maintenance of tranquillity. He was therefore in favour of a clause to this effect. Mr. Rose said, the bill was rendered indispensably necessary, not merely by recent occurrences, but by the successive history of riots, which he could trace to almost every former election at Nottingham, so far as 120 years back. In none of these cases did it appear that the ma ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v36.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- , in his interview with your excellency) — views which are directly repugnant, not only to the spirit, twit to the letter of the treaty of Amiens. From the postscript in your excellency’s letter, it appears, that a project was in contemplation, by which, according to the declaration of M. Talleyrand, the integrity of the Turkish territory would be secured so as to -do away every cause of doubt or uneasiness, either with regard to Egypt, or to any other part of the Turkish dominions. — His majesty will consider the communication of such a project as indicating a disposition, on the part of the French government, to afford him explanation and satisfaction respecting some Debates in the Commons on the King's Declaration of Indulgence - 517 Fbe Commons' Address to the King, against the Declaration of Indulgence - 526 Debate on the above Address — And on desiring the Concurrence of the Lords thereto - - - - - - - - - " 527 S* Job Charlton quits the Chair — And Mr. Seymour chosen in his place - 534 1672-3. TABLE OF CONTENTS. Page Debate on the Bill for granting Ease to Protestant Dissenters - 535 . Debate on a Motion to desire an Answer from the King to the Address - 543 The King’s Answer to the Address — Debate thereon — Second Address - 546 Further Debate on the Bill of E«*e to Prvicstoat Dissenters - 551 The King’s Speech, complaining of Addresses received from the Commons — Debate thereon — Another Address to the King — The King’s Answer - 556 Address of both Houses against the Growth of Popery - 559 The King’s Speech to both Houses — His Answer to the Address - 560 The Kinp cancels the Declaration of Indulgence - 561 Debate on the Bill to prevent the Growth of Popery; commonly called the Test Act - 561 - The Earl of Bristol’s Speech in favour of the Test Act - 564 Debate on engrossing the Bill for the Supply - 566 Further Debate on the Bill of Ease to Protestant Dissenters - 571 Debate on the Bill of Supply - 57 5 The King’s Message respecting a Recess - 577 Debate on the Bill of Naturalization - 577 7. 8. 12. 15. 17. 21. 24. 1673. Mar. 25. 29. 29. The Commons' Address on Grievances in Ireland - 579 The Commons’ Address on Grievances in England — The King’s Answer ‘ - 581 Debate on printing the Addresses on Grievances - 583 p.m. The Parliament adjourned — And prorogued - 584 Eleventh Session of the Second Parliament. Oct. 27. The King’s Speech on opening the Session — The Lord Chancellor Shafubury’s Speech - 586 Debate concerning the Speaker - 589 30. Debate on Sir Paul Neal’s sitting in the House, though not a Member - 591 The King’s Answer to the Address against the Duke’s Match - 591 Debate on the Test in the JEk^ery Act, - - - - - - - 592 31. Debate on refusing a Supply — A Supply refused - 592 The Commous’ Second Address against the Duke's Match - 602 Nov. 3. A Standing Army voted a Grievance - 604 4. The Parliament suddenly prorogued — The King’s Speech, on so doing - 608 1673-4. Jan. 7. 12. 13. 15. 99. 23. 24. 27. Feb. 7. 11. 24. Twelfth Session of the Second Parliament. The King’s Speech on opening the Session — The Lord Keeper Finch’s Speech 611 Address of both Houses for a Fast - 618 Debate on pressing Men for Soldiers - 619 Debate on Mr. Mallet’s reading his Speech - 620 Debate on Grievances - 620 Proceedings against the Duke of Lauderdale - 625 Proceedings against the Duke of Buckingham — The Duke’s Speech to the House of Commons — Debate thereon — The Duke’s Second Speech — Questions put to the Duke — With his Answers — Debate on the Duke’s Answers — Resolution against the Duke - 6S0 Proceedings against the Earl of Arlington — Articles of Impeachment — Debate thereon — The Earl’s Letter to the House of Commons — The Earl’s Speech to the House of Commons — Questions put to the Earl: With his Answers — Resolutions against the Earl - 649 Debate on regulating of Elections - 658 Debate on a Bill for restraining Buildings near London - 659 The King’s Speech concerning certain Proposals for Peace - 660 Debate on the Habeas Corpus Act - 660 Debate on an Address for the Removal of the Dukes of Lauderdale and Buckingham - 662 Debate on Members taking Bribes - 664 The Habeas Corpus Act passes the Commons - 665 The King’s Speech on concluding a Peace with Holland - 665 The King’s Speech at the Prorogation - - - - " . *. 666 Principal Occurrences during the Recess — Scheme of the Cabal — Campaign of 1674 - - 660 1675. table of contents. Thirteenth Session op the Second Parliament. 1675. ift. IS. The King’s Speech on opening the Session — The Lord Keeper Finch’s Speech 072 20. Debate on the Bill for restraint, of Building near London .... 578 Debate on Sir J. Preityman's Case:he being a Member and detained Prisoner in the King’s Bench - 679 ft Dr. Barnet’s Examination respecting the Duke of Lauderdale ... 085 13. Address for the Removal of the Poke of Lauderdale - 684 16. Proceedings relative to the’ Impeachment op the Lord Treasurer Danby — Articles of Impeachment — The Impeachment dropped - 088 19. Debate on the Bill to incapacitate Parliament-men from taking Places — The Bill rejected ... . - - . - 695 M*j 7. The King’s Answer to the Address against the Duke of Lauderdale - 699 8. The King’s Answer to the Address for recalling the Fo ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'Right of the Subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- wers - - - - . A Supply voted and appropriated - Report of the Contents of the Lords’ Journals, relating to the five Popish Lords The King’s Speech to both Houses on declaring a new Privy Council -Report from the Committee concerning the Answers of the five Popish Lords Debate on the Duke of York’s Succession to the Crown - The King’s Second Speech to both Houses relative to the Succession — The I-ord Chancellor Finch’s Second Speech - The Commons vote the Earl of Danby’s Pardon illegal and void, and demand Judgment against him - The Commons’ Address against the Duke of Lauderdale - Mr. Bertie examined, relating to 252, 467/. received by him for Secret Service Debate on bringing in the Bill of Exclusion - The Commons resolve to stand by the King, with their Lives and Fortunes The Bill of Exclusion read a first time - Debate on Money paid to .Members by Sir Stephen Fox - ‘ - Report of the Committee appointed to seize Sir S. Fox’s Papers - Sir Stephen Fox names the Pensioners - Report from the Committee of Secrecy relative to Money given to Members of Parliament — Debate thereon - The Habeas Corpus Act passed - - The Parliament dissolved - Principal Occurrences after the Dissolution — State of the Ministry — Meal-Tub Plot — Whig and Tory - - - - - - - - - - First Session of the Fourth Parliament. 1(>80. Oct. 21. List of the House of Commons - - - The King’s Speech on opening the Session — Mr. Serjeant Williams chosen Speaker - Ptrg * 1074 1074 1075 1079 1085 1092 1111 1111 1112 1113 1113 1114 111G 1118 1118 1121 1121 1121 J122 1124 1125 1127 1129 1130 1131 1131 1135 1136 1136 1139 1141 1142 1148 1149 1149 1154 1161 TABLE OF CONTENTS. ri$n. OtL '20. 27. w. 30. Xav. 2. 10. 11. 1?. 13. 1?. 20. C'». 55. 24. 30. Dec. 14. 15. 17. 19. 20. 81. 23. 30. liiso-i. Jus. 5. 10. 13. Page Debate on th* Means or Suppressing Popery, and'prevent’ikg a Popish Successor - 11G2 Petitioning the King voted to be the Right of the Subject - 1171 Sir R. Cann, and Sir F. Withins expelled for discrediting the Plot - 1174 The Votes of the House of Commons first ordered to be printed - 1175 Resolutions against the Duke of York - 1175 Debate on bringing in the Bill of Exclusion - 1175 Message from the King relatingio die Bill of Exclusion — Debate thereon — An Address voted - 1198 The F.arl of Stafford's Trial resolve^ on - 1202 The Commons’Address, in Answer to the King’s Message - 12^)3 Debate on the third reading of the Bill of Exclusion - 1204 Proceedings against the Earl of Stafford renewed - 1215 Proceedings against Sir George Jefferies - 1216 Debate on the King’s Message relating to Tangier - - '- - -1216 Proceedings against the Earl of Halifax - 1221 Articles of Impeachment against Mr. Seymour - 1221 Address to remove the Earl of Halifax — The King’s Answer - 1223 Debate on discharging a Middlesex Grand Jury - 1224 An Impeachment ordered against the Lord Chief Justice North - 1229 Trial of the Earl of Stafford - 1229 Sir Robert Peyton expelled . - - - - - - - - - 1233 The King’s Speech on Alliances and the State of Christendom - 1234 Debate on Popery — An Association Bill resolved on - 1231 Proceedings on Mr. Seymour’s Impeachment - 1250 Votes to secure the Kingdom against Popery - 1251 Debate on the King’s Speech respecting Alliances and the State of Christendom - 1255 The Commons’ Address, in Answer to the King’s Speech - 1255 Debate on die Bill for uniting his Majesty’s Protestant Subjects - 1258 Queries relating to the Execution of the Earl of Stafford - 1260 Report relating to the Proceedings of the Judges touching the Discharge of a Grand Jury — Resolutions for their Impeachment - 1261 Debate on Mr. Sheridan’s Habeas Corpus - - . - - - - - 1262 Dibate on Placemen and Pensioners in Parliament - 1261 Mr. Henry Booth’s Speech for Parliaments and against Favourites - .- 1270 Articles of Impeachment against Lord Chief Justice Scroggs — Several other Judges ordered ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ower - 1385 The Lords take the King’s Speech into Consideration - 1386 The Parliament dissolved, after many Prorogations 1387 The King publishes a Declaration of Indulgence .... 1388 0 PARLIAMENTARY PAPERS CONSISTING OF L Amctis of Impeachment. IL Addresses. Ill Declarations. IV. King’s Letters. V. King’s Messages. VI. King’s Speeches. YU Lists op the Members op both Houses. YUL Petitions. IX. Protests. X. Navy, Finance, &c. XL Persons filling the several High Offices of State from 1660 to 1688. XII. Contents of the Appendix. Kill. Index op the Names of the several Speakers in both Houses op Parliament, L ARTICLES OP IMPEACHMENT. 1660. Dec. 4. 1663. July 10. 1666*7. Iso. 3. M67. Oct. 36. 1*7-8. Feb. 10. 1668. Not. 35. 1673-4. JM. 15. 1675. Apr. 37. 1678. Dec. 31. 1W. Nor. 20. «».l. Jan. 5. Articles or Impeachment against Wm. Drake for publishing a Pamphlet, entitled, " The Long Parliament revived* 157 - exhibited by the Earl of Bristol against the Earl of Clarendon - 275 - - against the Lord Viscount Mordaunt — Lord Mordaunt’s Answer - 348 ---- against the Earl of Clarendon — The Earl’s Apology - 377 ----against Commissioner Pett - 408 ---- - against Sir William Penn - 409 ----against the Earl of Orrery - 434 ---- against the Earl of Arlington - 550 ---- against the Earl ofDanby - 693 - against the Earl of Danby — The Earl’s Defence - 1067 ----against Edward Seymour, esq. - 1222 - against Lord Chief Justice Scroggs .... 1274 H. ADDRESSES. Feb. 25. W. Feb. 11. Mar. 7. Mar. 35. 16734. 1675. Oct. 30. Jan. 7. April S3. 6-1. Mar. 15. 1677. Mar. 29. 1678. IfiTi May 25. May 7. Oct. *1. 26. Address of thr Commons to the King relative to the Indulgence to Dissenters — The King’s Answer ... 260 ---- of the Commons to the King, against the Declaration of Indulgence — The King’s Answer — The Commons’ Second Address - 526 ---- of both Houses, against the Growth of Popery — The King’s Answer - 559 .. — ---of the Commons, on Grievances in Ireland - 579 ---- -of the Commons, on Grievances in England — The King’s Answer - 581 ---- of the Commons, on the Duke’s Match - 602 ----of both Houses, for a Fast - 618 ...----of the Commons, for the Removal of the Duke of Lauderdale — The King’s Answer - 684 - of both Houses, on the Growth of the Power of France — The King’s Answer - 845 ---- of the Commons, concerning Alliances — Further Address — The Kiag’s Answer — Third Address - 859 ----of the Commons, declining a further Supply, till his Majesty’s Alliances are made known — The King’s Answer 879 ----of the Commons against the Duke of Lauderdale - 970 - of both Houses for a Solemn Fast - 1021 - of the Commons concerning Popish Recusants - 1°2S PARLIAMENTARY PAPERS. ADDRESSES, continued. 1878. Nov. 12. Address or the Commons for tendering the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy 10 the King's Servants — The King's Answer -18. ---- of the Commons, against the Discharge of Mr. Secretary Williamson - 28. ----for the Removal of the Queen from Court - 1679. May 8. ---- of the Commons, against the Duke of Lauderdale 1680. Nov.ll. ----of the Commons, in Answer to the King’s, Speech on the Bill of Exclusion - Nov. 22. ---- of the Commons for the Removal of the Earl of Halifax — The King's Answer -Dec. 30. ---- of the Commons, on the King’s Speech respecting Alliances, and the State of Christendom - 1685. June 13. ---- of the Commons respecting the Duke of Monmouth - 1660. 1664-5. 1672-3. 1672-3. 1685. 1660. ' 1661. ' 1660. 1661-2, 1663. 1672-3. 1677. 1678. 1680. 1680. 1685. * r 1660. ( III. DECLARATIONS. May 1. Declaration of Charles If. from Breda - 5. -, .---..-.of Parliament for keeping the Peace, See. Sept. 10. of the King, concerning Ecclesiastical Affairs - Feh. 22. ----of War against the States of Holland Feb. - of War against the States of Holland Feb. ---- of Indulgence to Dissenters - May 22. - of the Earl of Argyle - IV. KING’S LETTERS. Charles II. The King’s Letter to the House of Peers - - •- - ---- --- ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- entleman nor his business. The lord-president of the council examined Grenville from w hence those Letters came, whose they were, and how he came by them, (for as yet they were not opened)-he told the president that the King, his master, gave him them with his own hands at Breda: so the opening of them was deferred till the Parliament sat. Grenville was to have been sent into custody, but the General was his hail, who said he knew the gentleman, (being his near kinsman) and would take his parole to appear before the parliament." The King's Letter to the House of Peers.] May 1.’ The two houses met. After the Lords had done some other business, and ordered a call of their house to he on the 3d instant, they were informed, That there wras a gentleman, sir John Grenville, in the lobby, who had a Letter to deliver to this house from the King; the house thereupon was adjourned during pleasure, and the Speaker was appointed to go to the lower end of the house, and receive it at the hands of the messenger. The house being resumed, the Speaker reported, That sir John Grenville delivered tp him a Letter, which he said he received from the King, his master, to deliver to the house of peers." Hereupon, the house commanded the said Letter, with a Declaration inclosed therein, to be read twice; which was done accordingly, and are as follow: " To the Speaker of the House of Peers, and to the Lords there assembled. M C. R. Right trusty and right well-beloved cousins, and right trusty and well-beloved, we greet you well: We cannot have a better reason to promise ourself an end of our common sufferings and calamities, and that our own just power and authority will, with God’s blessing, be restored to us, than that we hear you are again acknowledged to have that authority and jurisdiction which hath always belonged to you by your birth, and the fundamental laws of the land:and we have thought it very fit and safe for us to call to you for your help in the composing the confounding distempers and distractions of the kingdom, in which your sufferings are next to those we have undergone ourself; and therefore you cannot but be the most proper counsellors for removing those mischiefs, and for preventing the like for the future. How great a trust, we repose in you, for the procuring and establishing a olessed Peace and Security for the Kingdom, will appear to you by our inclosed Declaration; which trust, we are most confident, you will discharge with that justice and wisdom that becomes you, and must always be expected from you; and that, upon your experience how one violation •ucceeds another, when the known relations and rules of justice are once transgressed, you will be as jealous for the rights of the crown, and for the honour of your king, as fo r yourselves, and then you cannot but discharge your trust with good success, and provide Tor and establish the peace, happiness, and honour of king, lords, and commons, upon that 1 bun da tion which can only support it, and we shall be all .happy in each other: and as the whole kingdom will bless God for you nil, so we shall hod ourself obliged, in an especial manner, to thank you in particular, according to the affection you shall express towards us. We need the less enlarge to you upon this subject, because we have likewise writ to the house of commons, which we suppose they will communicate to you; and we pray God to bless your joint endeavours for the good of us all: and so we bid you very heartily farewell. Given at our Court at Brccla, this 14th day of April, 1660, in the 12th year of our reign." The King's Declaration.’] 11 is majesty’s Declaration from Breda to all his loving Subjects, inclosed in the foregoing, was as follows: " C. R. " Charles, by the Grace of God, King of England, Scotland, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, &c. To all our loving subjects, of w hat degree or quality soever, greeting: If the general distraction and contusion wmich.is spread over the whole kingdom, doth n ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- person, whilst the parliament, which had vowed and cove-Biued for the defence and safety of that per-soc, remained entire. Surely, sir, as the person* of our kings have ever been dear unto parliaments, so we cannot think of that horrid set committed against the precious life of our tee sovereign, but with such a detestation and tteorreocy as we want words to express it. — Asd, next to wishing it had never been, we «iah it may never be remembered by your majesty, to he unto you an occasion of sorrow, as rt will never be remembered by us, but with that grief and trouble of mind which it deserves, btaig the greatest reproach that ever was iscurred by any of the English nation; an o&ncc to till the Protestant Churches abroad, and a scandal to the profession of the truth of Rtiigiou here at home; though both profession ssd true professors, and the nation itself, as yell as the parliament, were most innocent of it, bating been only the contrivance and act of some lew ambitions and bloody persons, and such others as, by their influence, were misled. — And as we hope and pray that God will not impute the guilt of it, nor of all the evil consequences thereof unto the land, whose divine justice never involves the guiltless with the t-iiity, so we cannot but give due praise to your majesty's goodness, who arc pleased to entertain such reconciled and reconciling thoughts; and with them not only meet, but, as it were, prevent your parliament and people; proposing yourself, in a great measure, and inviting the parliament to consider further, and advise your majesty what may be necessary to restore the nation to what it hath lost, raise up again the banka and fences of it, and make the kingdoms bappy, by the advancement of religion, the seconng our laws, liberties, and estates, and the removing of all jealousies and animosities which may render our peace less certain and dnrable; wherein your majesty gives a large endence of your great wisdom judging aright; that, after so high a distemper, and such an universal shaking of the very foundations, great care must be had to repair the breaches, and much circumspection and industry used to provide things necessary for the strengthening of flwse repairs, and preventing whatever may disturb and weaken them. — We shall immediately apply ourselves to the preparing of these duugs; and in a very short time, we hope, he able to present them unto your majesty; and, for the present, do, with ail humble tbankful-aess, acknowledge your grace and favour, in assuring us of your royal concurrence with us, cod saying. That we shall not expect any tluug from you, but what you will be as ready to give as we to receive. And we cannot doubt of your majesty’s effectual performance, since your own princely judgment hath prompted noto you the necessity of doing such things; and vour piety aed goodness hath carried you m a free tender of them to your faithful parlia* •neat. You speak as a gracious king, and we will do what befits dutiful, loving, and loyal subjects, who are yet more engaged to honour, and highly esteem your majesty for yoor declining, as you are pleased to> say, all foreign assistance, and rather trust to your people, who^ we do assure your majesty, will, and do, open their arms and hearts to receive you, and will spare neither their estates nor their lives, when your service shall require it of them. — And we have yet more cause to enlarge our praises and our prayers to God for your majesty, that you have continued unshaken in your faith: that neither the temptation of allurements, persuasions, and promises from seducing papists on the one hand, nor the persecution and hard usage from some seduced and misguided professors of the protestant religion on the other hand, could at all prevail upon your majesty to make you forsake the Rock of Israel, the God of your Fathers, the true Protestant Religion, in which your majesty hath been bred j but you have still been a9 a rock yourself, firm to your covenant with yo ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- you the glory of kings, and the joy of your subjects; which is, and ever shall be, the prayer of your majesty’s most loyal subjects the commons of England assembled in parliament. Signed Harbottly Grimston, Speaker." ‘ Resolved, That a committee of this house he appointed to consider of the king's majes- . ty’s Letter and Declaration, and for preparing of Bills accordingly. This committee have power to prepare a Bill for taking away Tenures in Capite, and by Knights Service, and Socage in Capite, and also of the Coart of Wards; and to consider and propound to this house, how 100,000l. a year may be raised and settled on his majesty, in compensation for Wardships and Liveries, and the Court at Wards. May 4. The committee, according to order, had now began to prepare Bills, to be offered to the king on his return, for the Security of the Parliament itself, and of their properties' who had purchased lands, &c. under titles-depending wholly on the late revolutions. And, first, Mr. Finch did this day exhibit a Bill to the house, declaring the Continuance* of this present parliament, which was read a 1st and 2nd time, and committed. The said gentleman also brought another Bill, concerning Lands purchased from the trustees of the late parliament, which was likewise read twice and committed. A Declaration was ordered to be prepared, to give notice to the people, That there will be no proceedings in WestmineieMIaU neae 31] PARL. HISTORY, 12 Charles II. 1660. — Committee to go to the King. [32 Easter-Term, upon causes depending in any of the courts, till the two last returns of the said term. Agreed to by the lords. The Recorder of Lon'don, aldermen Vincent, Robinson, and Bludworth, had leave given them by the house to go to the King, with a Letter from the City, in Answer to the one the City had received from his majesty. A Declaration of Parliament for keeping the Peace, <$*c.] May 5. Mr. Annesley, from the Council of State, informed the house, That there were many distemperatures in several parts of the kingdom; and that unquiet spirits might make an advantage to foment new troubles and distractions, by pretence and colour that the sheritTs, and other public ministers of justice, are not impowered, in this present juncture of affairs, with sufficient authority to dispense the ordinary acts of justice belonging to their respective places, for preserving of the public peuce. The council of state did desire, That a Declaration should be set forth, for requiring all officers of justice to attend their places, and the duties thereof, as by commission they are enjoined; that so the public peace may lie secured, and the justice of the nation carried on without any interruption. The commons appointed a committee to draw up a Declaration accordingly, which was done and agreed to by the lords, as follows: " The lords and commons assembled in parliament, having received several informations that there hath been divers tumults, riots, outrages, and misdemeanors, lately committed in sundry parts of this realm, by unquiet and discontented spirits, to the disturbance of the public peace, and fomenting of new troubles, do hereby order and declare, That all sheriffs, justices of the peace, mayors, constables, and other ministers of public justice, that were io office the 25th of April, 1660, shall be continued in their respective offices, and shall exercise the same in the king's majesty’s name and style, and shall uste their best endeavours to suppress and prevent all riots, tumults, unlawful assemblies and misdemeanors whatsoever against the laws and peace 6f the realm; and all treasonable and seditious words, reports, and rumours against his majesty's royal person and authority, and proceed against all offenders therein according to law and justice: and all military officers and soldiers, and all others, are to be aiding and assisting to them therein." The house proceeded to the election of 12 of their members, who were to go to the King, with th ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- dahips were so careful of the matter as they would not lose time for tho manner, and therefore have issued out an Order of their owi> for doing that which was desired; in which Order colonel Tomlinson is omitted, according to the desire of the commons. That the 3rd Vote relates to a Council of State, which the lords conceive not in being, and therefore have resolved that such emergencies as shall necessarily arise during his majesty’s absence, and until .his pleasure be further known, for his majesty’s service and the peace of the kingdom, shall he transacted henceforth by the committee of lords mid commons appointed for the Reception of his majesty, wherein their lordships desire the concurrence of the commons." The commons, in a grand committee, went upon Ways and Means, lor the speedy raising of a considerable sum of money, for the satisfaction of the Arrears due to the Army and Navy; and came to a Resolution, .That a Poll-Bill should be brought in for raising 400,000l. for that purpose. May 21. The commons heard the Report of the late conference with the lords, concerning their Votes for securing the persons and estates of the Ring’s Judges; and appointed a committee to peruse their own Journal-Books, state the matter of fact upon the whole, and prepare Heads for a free conference with the lords about it. They also ordered that all the ports should be stopped, and that none of those persons should make their escape beyond the seas; and that no mouey or bullion be ex-£ 51] PARL. HISTORY, 12 Ovaries II. l66o. — [52 ported without the approbation of parliament. May 22. Another Conference was held between the two houses, on the subject of the last, and of which we find this Entry in the Lords Journals. The earl of Manchester reported the effect of the free Conference this morning, which his lordship said was managed by Mr. Annesiey; who said, The commons bad an earnest desire to continue a fair correspondency between both the houses; and they were sensible what distempers have been for many years past; and they desired that all breaches might be healed; that this conference was to preserve a good understanding. The commons said, " That they had seen a firinted Paper, which was printed and pub-ished from their lordship *, without their concurrence or a conference, or taking notice of it: the Paper is dated the 18th instant, which mentions, That, upon complaint made by the commons in parliament, it is ordered, by the lords in parliament, That divers persons should be secured, who sat in Judgment upon the late King's majesty, when Sentence of Death was pronounced; which Order leaves them out, contrary to their Resolution ras they presented it to this house for concurrence. The commons -take notice that there was no Complaint in this case made by the commons, nor is there any Entry thereof m their Journals. If there had been a Complaint preceding, the lords could not have proceeded as they have, in a judicial way, without consent of the commons. — As this case is, tl»e point of Judicature is not iu question. 1. The Order sent by the commons to the lords for their concurrence, is not in a judicial, but in an extraordinary Way, and for a notorious and transcendent crime. 2. The law allowed no such proceedings regularly before conviction. 3. This was in order ouly to bring them to a judicial.proceeding. 4. The lords sent several Orders to the commons in the cases of sales, securing rents* and hindering of cutting or selling of wood or timber; wherein the commons concurred, and this before the parties heard: and this is a case of members of the lords bouse, all being assented unto ns cases of extremity. — The commons say they cannot admit the lords Judicature so largely as they assert it; but judicature, as aforesaid, not being in question, they decline this dispute. They conceive the fords intrench upon the commons privileges; for col. Hutchinson, a member of the commons, could not be under such an Order of the fords, upon any account, un ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monday neit, and we hope to arrive at London on Tuesday in the afternoon, and will then give you timely notice where, and when, to attend us; and, in the mean time, we bid you heartily farewell. Given at our Court at Canterbury, this 26th day of May, 1660, in the 12th year of our reign." After the foregoing Letter was read, the lord Berkley, one of the Commissioners sent over to the king, acquainted the house, That he was commanded by his Majesty to let their lordships know, the King intended to be the next day at Whitehall, at 12 o’clock, where he expected their lordships to attend him in a fuU assembly. Another Letter, to the same purport as the last to the lords, from the King, was presented to the commons by lord Falkland, aod was read by their Speaker. The late lords commissioners of the'Great Seal, according to the Order of the house, did this day bring the Great Seal, in their custody, to the clerk’s table, and delivered the same to the Speaker t aod a smith being sent for forthwith, be was ordered to deface and break in pieces the said Seal at the bar, the house then sitting, which was done accordingly, and the pieces thereof were delivered to the late Commissioners as their fees. Both Houses wait upon the King at W^it* hall.]| May 29, p. m. The lords met for the purpose of going m the foienoou of this day from their own house, in procession, to wait upon the King at Whitehall. The earl of Manchester was appointed to speak what his lordship thought fit, ' to express the joy of that house for his majesty’s safe return to his throue. The commons did nothing material in the forenoon of this day, but resolve, nero. con. " That the king’s majesty be pleased to give order, that the Oaths of Supremacy and Allegiance be administered according to the laws and statutes of this realm now in force." 4 In the afternoon they met again, read and committed a Bill for Confirmation of the Privileges of Parliament, Magna Cliarta, Statutum de Talagio non' concedeudo, the Petition of Rights, and other Acts: after which we find the following Entry in their Journals; " The King’s majesty having, by Letter to this house, signified his pleasure to be at Whitehall this day, and the lord Herbert having communicated his majesty’s intentions to give a-meeting to this house there, the bouse did, after their adjournment, walk on foot from Westminster to Whitehall, divers gentlemen going before Mr. Speaker; and, after them, the clerk, and clerk-assistant of this house; and next, before Mr. Speaker, the serjeant at arms attending this bouse bearing his mace, (being all uncovered) the members of this house following Mr. Speaker three in a rank; and, being come to Whitehall, they went up into the Banquetting-House, and there attended his majesty’s coming to Whitehall; 55] PARL. HISTORY, 12 Charles II. 1660. — Speeches the King. which being about 7 of the clock, his majesty, about half an hour after, came into the Ban-quecting-House, and there plackd himself in his ehair of state: whereupon Mr. Speaker, being before retired to the lower part of the room, and the way being clear to the chair of state did, after his humble obeisance, walk up towards his majesty; two mein I ers of the house going, one on one hand, and another on the other hand of him, and divers'other members following him, the serjeant going immediately before him, with the mace turned downwards; and, in his way, made two other obeisances to his majesty; and, coining up to his majesty, he did address himself to him, in the name of this bouse, by an eloquent oration, to which his majesty gave a gracious Answer:\ which being performed, the members of this house, then attending, kissed his majesty’s hand:and, after that, his majesty retired out of the Banquetting-House; and Mr. Speaker, and the rest, thereupon departed." Speech of the Speaker of the House of Lords to the King at Whitehall.] May 30. The two bouses having congratulated his majesty on his Return to his dominions and the exercise of his ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- of their commanders had done eminent services abroad, at their returns, to honour them with triumphs, •minding through their streets; there they received the praises and applauses of the people, *th this inscription upon their laurel crowns. |Vincenti dabitur/ But your majesty’s victory oof another nature; and as it differs much •ran theirs in the qoaliry of it, so your triumph mutdifferas much from theirs in the manner fit. They conquered bodies, bot your ma-£ dabitur/ Their triumphs were in narrow jtocts, but your majesty’s triumph must be in mtge hearts; their triumphs lasted but for a Y» "ol your majesty’s triumph must last for "•your dap, and niter that to triumph in «*arei» to all eternity. — I have read of a duke Burgundy, who was called Carolus Audex, p tjmtorian tells us that his father was called •rolus Bonus: ao Observator hath this Note *t, That goodness doth ever prodace *wntts/ Sir, you are the true son of such a v/: j*ther; and so long as you serve our I *, who is goodness itself, will give ™ boldness, a princely virtue, and the best II. l66‘0. — The King*a Answer. [58 foil your majesty can use, to set out the true lustre of all your other most eminent and . lovely graces. — Most Royal Sovereign, I have yet a few words more, and to dobbt your patience, who is the mirror of patience, were to commit a crime unpardonable and ht to be excepted out of that Act of Oblivion, which your majesty hath so graciously tendered unto your riople; therefore, with an humble confidence, shall presume to acquaint your majesty, that I have it further in command to present you, at this time, with a Petition of Right, and humbly, upon my bended knees, to beg your royal assent thereunto. Sir, it hath already passed two great houses, Heaven and Earth, and I have Vox Populi, and Vox Dei, to warrant this bold demand. It is, That yonr majesty wrtuld be pleased to remove your throne of state, and to set it up in the hearts of your people; and as you are deservedly the king of hearts, there to receive from your people a crown of hearts. Sir, this crown hath three excellent and rare properties, it is a sweet crown, it is a fast crown, and it is a lasting crown; it is a sweet crown, for it is perfumed with nothing but the incense of prayers and praises; it is a fast crown, for it is set upon your royal head, by him who only hath the power of hearts, the King of Kings; and it is a lasting erdwn, your majesty can never wear it out, for the longer you wear this crown, it will be the better for the wearing; and it is the hearty desires and most earnest prayers of all your loyal, loving, and faithful subjects, that you may never change that crown till you change it for a better, a crown of eternal glory in the highest heavens; and the Lord say Amen." The King's Answer.] To this harangue the King returned the following Answer: " I shall not trouble you with many words, for really I am so weary that I am scarce able to speak:But I desire you may know thus much. That whatsoever may concern the good of this people, the defence and confirmation of your' Laws, and the establishment of your Religion, I shall be as ready to grant as you shall be to ask:And I shall study nothing more than to make them as happy as myself." Account of the King's Entry into London.] Before we go on with the Proceedings of both Houses of Parliament, we shall revert a little, to give some Account of the King’s Landing at Dover, and the public Entry he afterward* made into his City of London, and to that palace to which he was then so great a stranger. The Author we shall quote from is Dr. Gamble, who wrote the Life of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- cast themselves at his feet, with all vows of affection to the world’s end. Id a word, the joy was so (inexpressible and so universal, that his majesty said smiling to some about biro, * he doubted it bad been his own < fault he had been absent so long; for he saw * nobody that did not protest he had ever * wished his return." Clarendon, v. vi. p. 773. 1660. — The King comet to the House. £64 That matters of honour did belong to his majesty, and this bouse did acquiesce in his pleasure. And agreed. That the Order formerly passed, for excluding any lords made at Oxford from sitting in the house, should be cancelled, nulled, and made void, and that the lords sub-committee for Privileges, &c. should see this done and executed accordingly. Also, that the said lords should meet to consider of placing the seats and forms of the house, for making more room for the peers. The King comes to the June 1. The King came to the house of lords for the first time, and, sending for the commons, his majesty made a short speech to both houses, and then commanded the lord chancellor (Ilyde) to deliver his mind further to them, which he accordingly did, say the Journals, in a large one; but neither of them are entered in those authorities. Nor have we met w ith them, at length, elsewhere; there is only a short abstract of the chancellor’s Speech preserved in history *, which he made after the king had given his royal assent to these 3 Bills, ra, 1. •* An Act for preventing and removing all Questionsaud Disputes, concerning the Assembling and Sitting oft his present Parliament. 2. An Act for putting in Execution an Ordinance mentioned in the said Act. 3. An Act for Continuance of Process, and all judicial Proceedings. After which, The Lord Chancellortold both houses, " With how much readiness his majesty bad passed these important Acts, and how willing they should at all times hereafter find him, to pass any other that might tend to the advantage and benefit of the people; in a particular manner desiring, in his majesty’s behalf, That the Bill of Oblivion, in which they had made so good a progress, might be expedited:that the people might see and know his majesty’s extraordinary gracious care to ease and free them from their doubts and fears; and that he had not forgotten his gracious Declaration made at Breda, but that he would in all points make good the same." Thanks returned to the Committee sent to the King.] The Commons resolved, That the gentlemen, the members of this house, who were sent to his majesty with a Letter front this house, have the thanks of this house, for their eminent service. Accordingly, the Speaker said, " Gentlemen, 1 shall not need to tell you what notice the house hath taken of the eminent service you have performed in your late employment to his majesty; you have brought home the ark, the glory of England, his majesty’s person, in safety; and truly, if ever a service deserved to be called a service of ever-blessed memory, this is such a service: therefore the bouse hath commanded this service to be singled out from all your former eminent and worthy service ^, and to do it per excellentiaro, as much exceeding all that ever hath been done before * See Eehard’s History of Englhud, p. 7?3. Si] PARL. HISTORY, 12 Charles II. 1660. — [66 this afttioo. And since the merit thereof is such, that do thinks can be proportionable, thereaoto, bot the thanks of this bouse, I am therefore commanded, in the name of this bouse, and of all those they represent, the commons of England, to return you their very beam Thanks." At the same time, Mr. Hollis informed the bouse, That be having been sent, with the other worthy members, to the king, some aspersions bad been cast upon him, as if lie bad, in his Speech to the king, (see p. 36) transgressed the Instructions given him by the bouse: on which the house ordered, 4 That he should have leave to print the Speech he made to his majesty, as also the King’s Answer to it, for winch he bad the k ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- office of Secretary of State. He was a man of learning and good abilities, but was not completely qualified for his great employment, as he knew.but little of foreign languages, and less of foreign affairs. The Secretary spoke Latin fluently, understood Greek, and acquitted himselfduring the seven years that he continued in office without reproach. He died Dec. 12, 1676. He was author, of a Book entitled, * The Common Right to the Lord’s Supper asserted.’ One singularity is recorded of nun, That he would never suffer any man to say grace in his own house beside himself; there, he said, he was both priest and king." Grainger, vtri. iii. p., 350. the public peace and safety are the same i and, neither we nor you must be overmuch troubled, if we find our good intentions, and the unwearied pains wc take to reduce those good intentions into real acts, for the quiet and security of the nation, mis-represented and mis-interpreted by those who are, in truth, afflicted to see the public distractions, by God’s blessing, so near an end; and, by others, upon whose weakness, fears, and jealousies, the activity and cunning of those ill men have too great an influence. — How wonderful and miraculoua soever the great harmony of affections between us and our good subjects is, (and that is so visible and manifest to the world, that there scarce appears the view of any cloud to overshadow or disturb it) yet, we must not think that God Almighty hath wrought the miracle to that degree, that a nation so miserably divided for so many years, is so soon and entirely united in their affections and endeavours, as were to be wished; but that the evil consciences of many men continue so awake for mischief, that they are uot willing to take rest themselves, or to suffer others to take it: and we have all had too sad experience of the unhappy effects of fears and jealousies, how groundless and unreasonable soever, not to think it very necessary to apply all timely and proper remedies to those distempers, and to prevent the inconveniences and mischiefs which too naturally flow from thence:we well foresaw, that the neat violation, which the laws of the land had for so many years sustained, had filled the hearts of the people with a terrible apprehension of insecurity to themselves, if all they had said and done should be liable to be examined and punished by those laws which had been so violated; and that nothing could establish the security of king and people, but a full provision, that the returning to the reverence and obedience of the law, which is good for ns all, should not turn to the ruin of any, who are willing and fit to receive that protection hereafter from the law, and to pay that subjection to it that is just and necessary; and, therefore, we made that free offer of a general Pardon, in such a manner, as is expressed in our Declaration; and how ready and desirous we are to make good the same, appears by our Proclamation, which we have issued out upon, and according to, your desire. — However, it is evident, that all we have, or do offer, doth not enough compose the minds of our people, nor, in their opinions, can their security be provided for, till the Act of Indemnity and Oblivion be passed; and we find great industry is used by those, who do not wish that peace to the kingdom they ought to do, to persuade our good subjects, that we have no mind to make good our promises, which, in truth, we desire to perform for our own sake as well as theirs:and we do therefore very earnestly recommend it to you, that all possible expedition be used in the passing that most necessary Act, whereby our good subjects generally will be satisfied, that their ecurity is in their own hands, and 73] PARL. HISTORY, 12 Charles II. 1660. — Debate on the Act of Indemnity. [74 depends upon their future actions, and that they are free for all that is past, and so all the endeavours of ill men will be disappointed, which would persuade them not to do well now, because they have ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- med the house of lords, That his majesty had conferred the honour and title of Duke of Albemarle on the lord-gtu i era I Monk; whereupon the house ordered, That he should be introduced between the duke of Buckingham and the marquis of Wincliester, the lord great-chamberlain, without robes, Garter kina at arms going before him. Being thus brought in, he delivered his patent, on his knees, to the lord-chancellor, who delivering the same to the clerk of parliament, it was pnhlickly read; after which Garter king at arms delivered back the patent to the lord-general Monk; who, by this grant from his majesty, was created Bnro de Potlieridge, Bcnuclmmp et'levs, comes Torritigton, ct Dux Albemarliae.’ The ceremony aforesaid being ended, the duke was placed, by Garter, between the duke of Buckingham and the marquis of Winchester. The lords ordered also, That the lord great-chamberlain and the lord Berkley should wait upon his majesty to give him Thanks, from that house, for the honour he had been pleased to confer on the duke of Albemarle; and that he be added to the committee of privileges. Debate in the Commons on .] July 16. We have already given, -from a MS. Diary> the substance of a debate on Religion, by n Committee of the commons appointed for that purpose. The same authority gives us another, which happened this day. Sir John Nurthcnt began the debate, by speaking very highly against Deans and Chapters; but spared the Bishops, saying. The former did nothing but eat and drink and rise up to play/ or something worse:upon which Mr.----stood up and repro\*ed him; but he was justified by sir Walter Erie. Mr. Rtynne said, He could not be for bishops, uuicss they would derive their power from the king, and not vaunt themselves to be Jure Divino. Mr. Walpole was for putting the question. Which was the Protestant Faith, according to the scriptures and the government of the Church, and according to law. Mr. Kniphtley was for the dergy in general, saying, The faults of private persons ought not to make the function criminal. Sir Tho. Widdrington said, The question, as it was, was not for a committee, or even a parliament; but moved to make two questions of it. Mr. Grcroesaid, The question was complicated, and desired that the firs? part might lie put; adding, That the king was then consulting with divines about the discipline of the Church. Dr. Clayton said, That discipline was as necessary with doctrine, as life in a natural body. I G 83] PARL. HISTORY, 12 Ciuatw ft Mr. Stephens said, The first part of the question they should all agree iii; but, for the second, not to anticipate the king, who was, at that time, consulting about it. Mr. Howard, argued for the whole question. He said, That as monarchy had been so long interrupted by rebellion and faction, so had episcopacy by schism and heresy; and that no one that spoke against episcopacy o fie red any thing better. Mr. Young was for dividing, and not to mix the doctrine and discipline together; yet, he said, he was for episcopacy, though be did- not think it an article ot faith: and urged the king's Declaration for teuder consciences formerly, and his preseut endeavours for settling of peace amongst all people. Sir J(fhn Temple argued for a division of the question, saying, the former discipline was the occasion of their former troubles; and moved for a synod. Col. King said, That no man could tell what the discipline according to law was; and therefore moved to divide the question. Mr. Throgmorton spoke highly for Bishops, saying, That, except Scotland, there was scarce any Reformed Church but what had Bishops. Mr. Bunckley said. He thought a moderate episcopacy might take in the good of both parties; and urged the king's present inclinations and endeavours for it: that episcopacy, in its extent, was more boundless than monarchy; adding, That some of the Bishops gloried in putting down all lectures in a country, and it was a fault to preach twice a day; but concluded, That govern ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ay think well upon what I have offered, and the benefit you and I have received from that offer, and encourage and oblige ail other persons, by not excluding them troui the benefit of this Act. This mercy and indulgence is the best way to bring them to a true repentance, and to make them more severe to themselves, when they find we are not so to them. It will make them good subjects to me, and good friends and neighbours to you; xnd then we have all our ends, and you shall frid this the securest expedient to prevent future mischief. Therefore I do earnestly dc-ure and conjure you to depart from all particular animosities and revenge, or memory of f«*t provocations, and that you will pass this Act, without other exceptions, than of those bo were immediately guilty of that murder of my father.- — My lords, I have told you my opinion, and I hope you will be of the same. It any persons appear of such dangerous and ohsunate principles, that the peace of the iwedura cannot be preserved whilst they have liberty in it, some other course may be taken, tUt they shall not be able to do hurt; and I ure you, there is nothing can enable them to do much barm, as the deferring the pas- sing this Act — I hope I need say nothing of Ireland, and that they alone shall not be without the benefit of my mercy. They have shewed much affection to me abroad, and you will have a care of my honour, and of what X have promised to them. I do again conjure you, that you will use all expedition in the dispatch of this Bill." July 28. The king came again to the house, of lords in order to pass some Bills that then lay ready for the royal assent. The commons being sent for as usual, and come up, their Speaker presented his majesty with two Bills; one, For a Grant ofTonnage and Poundage; the other. For a Continuance of Excise. After which, he made a short speech to the king, to this effect: " That it never was the custom of parliaments to charge the people with payments, until their liberties and grievances were first confirmed and redressed; yet, out of the greatest trust and confidence that ever subjects had in a prince, the house of commons did now go out of their old way, and had now supplied his majesty’s necessities with the greatest gift that ever prince of this kingdom had ever given him by his people." — The Bills where then read by the clerk of parliament, and passed the royal assent. The King's Message releasing all Arrears to the Groa n.]July 30. The lords continuing to go into a committee every day, on the Bill of indemnity, it was ordered, That the lord-chamberlain should go and acquaint his majesty with the great sums of money in Arrears in the Court of Wards, which are mentioned in the Act of Indemnity; and to know his majesty’s pleasure therein. The next day, the said lord brought back from the king the following Answer in writing: " C. H. His majesty is very well informed of the value of these Concessions, which ore to pass in the Act of Indemnity, which relate intirely to his majesty’s profit, and which have little or no relation to the war: lie knows well that the Arrears of the wars, the Licences of Alieuution, and Alienations without Licence, Purveyance, Respite of Homage, the Arrears of Rent still in the hands of the teuants, and the other particulars, amount to a great and vast sum; all which are released and discharge ed by this Act. But his majesty is so well satisfied of the good affection of his house of commons, and of their intentions and resolutions to settle such a Revenue upon his majesty as may preserve the crown from want, and from being undervalued by his neighbours; that he is resolved not to insist upon any particulars which the house of commons desired his majesty should release: and therefore, «9 his majesty thanks the house of peers for the information they hnve given him, and for the care they have expressed of his majesty’s profit, so be is well contented that that clause shall pass in such manner as the house of commons hath set down: and continues his ea ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- , by your example, by the candour of your conversation, by your precepts, and by your practice, and by all your interest, teach your neighbours and your friends how to pay. a full obedience to this clause of the statute, how to learn this excellent art of forgetfulness. — Let them remember, and let us all remember, how ungracious, how indecent, how ugly, the insolence, the fierceness, the brutishness of their enemies appeared to them, and we may piously and reasonably believe, that God’s indignation against them, for their want of bowels, for their not being Englishmen, (for they had thft hearts of pagans and infidels) sent a whirlwind in a moment to blow them out of th« world, that is, out of a capacity to do more mischief in the world, except we practise their vices, and do that ourselves which we pretend to detest them for. — Let us not be too much ashamed, as if what bath been done amis proceeded from the humour and the temper of the nature of our nation. The astrologers have made us a fair excuse, and truly 1 hope a true one: all the motions of these last 20 years have been unnatural, and have proceeded from the evil influence of a malignant star; and let us not too much despise the influence of the stars. And the same astrologers assure us, that the malignity of that star is expired:the good genius of this kingdom is become superior, and hath mastered that malignity, and our own good old stars govern us again; and their influence is to strong, that with your help they will repair in a year what hath been decaying in 20, and they only shall have no excuse from the star who continue their malignity, and own all the ill that is past to be their own, by continuing and improving it for the time to come. — If any body here, or any where else, be too much exalted with what he hath done, or what he hath suffered, and from thence thinks himself warranted to reproach others, let him remember the story of Nicephorus: it is an excellent story, and very applicable to such distempers: he was a pious and religious man, and, for his piety and religion, was condemned to the fire. When he was Jed to execution, and when an old friend, who had done him injury enough, fell at his feet and asked bis 127] . PARL. HISTORY, 12 Cuarlxs II. pardon, the poor man was so elated with the triumph be was going unto, with the Glory of Martyrdom, that be refused to be reconciled unto him; upon which he was disappointed of his end, and for this uncharitableness the spirit of God immediately forsook him, and be apostatized from the faith. — Let all those who are too proud of having been, as they think, less faulty than other men, and so are unwilling to be reconciled to those who have offended them, take heed of the apostacy of Nicephorus, and that those fumes of envy and uncharitableness, and murmuring, do not so far trausport and intoxicate tlieni, that they fall into those very crimes they value themselves for having hitherto declined^ — But, my lords and gentlemen, whilst we conspire together to execute faithfully this part of the Bill, to put all old names and terms of distinction into utter Oblivion, let us not find new names and terms to keep up the same, or a worse distinction. If the old reproaches of Cavalier, and Round-Head, and Malignant, be committed to the grave, let us not find mere significant and better words, to signify worse things; let not piety and godliness grow into terms of reproach, and distinguish between the court, and the city, and the country; and let not piety and godliness be measured by a morosity in manners, an affectation of gesture, a new mode and tone of speaking; at least, let not our constitutions and complexions make us be thought of a contrary party; and because we have not an affected austority ia our looks, that we have not piety in our hearts. Very merry men have been very godly men; and if good conscience be a continual feast, there is no reason but men may be very merry at it, . — You, Mr. Speaker, have this day made a n ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rrupt his majesty's nature, and to extinguish Ins mercy. — My Lords and Gentlemen; I told you I was to acquaint you with some things his majesty intends to do during this recess, that you may see be will give no intermission to 'his own thoughts for the public good, though for a time he dispenses with your assistance. He doth consider the infinite importance the improvement of Trade must be to this kingdom, and therefore his majesty intends, forthwith, to establish a Council for Trade, consisting of soma principal merchants of the several Companies, to which he will add some gentlemen of quality and experience; and, for their greater honour and encouragement, some of my lords of hw own privy council. — In the next place, his majesty hopes that, by a well-settled Peace, and God's great blessing upon him and you, this nation will in a short time flourish to that degree, that the land of Canaan did, when Esau found it necessary to part from his brother. * For their riches were more titan that they might dwell together, and the land whereio they were could not bear them, because of their cattle.’ We have been ourselves very near this pinnacle of happiness, and the hope and contemplation that we muy be so again, disposes the king to be very solicitous for the improvement and prosperity of his Plantations abroad, where there is such large room for the industry and reception of such who shall desire to go thither. And therefore his majesty -likewise intends to erect and establish a Council for those Plantations, in which persons, weM qualified, shall he wholly intent upon the gooff and advancement ef these plantationt, — There 129] PAUL HISTORY, 12 Charles II. 1660. — on the Adjournment. [130 are two other particulars which I am commanded to mention, which were both mentioned and recommended to you by his majesty, in his Declaration from Breda:the one for the Confirmation of Sales, or other recommence for Purchasers; the other, for the composing those differences and distempers in Religion, which hare too much disturbed the peace of the kingdom. Two very weighty particulars, in which his majesty knows you have spent much time, and concerning which he should have heard from you before this time, if you had not met with great difficulties in the disquisition of either. — For the first; his majesty hath not been without much thought upon the argument, and hath done much towards the accommodation of many particular persons; and you shall not he at your journey’s end, before his majesty will put that business, concerning Sales, into such a nay of dispatch, that he doubts not you will find a good progress made in it before your coming together again; and I believe the persons concerned will bo very much to blame, if they receive not good satisfaction. And some of you who stay in town shall be advised and consulted with in that settlement. — The other, of Religion, is a sad argument indeed. It is a consideration that must make every religious heart to bleed, to see Religion, which should be the strongest obligation and cement of affection, and brotherly-kindness and compassion, made now, by the perverse wrangliugs of passionate and froward men, the ground of all animosity, haired, malice, and revenge. And this unruly and unmanly passion (which no question the divine nature exceedingly abhors) sometimes, and I fear too frequently, transports those who are in the right, as well as those who are in the wrong, and leaves the latter more excusable than the former, when men, who find their manners and dispositions »erjf conformable in all the necessary obligations of human nature, avoid one another’s conversation, and grow first unsociable, and then uncharitable to each other, because one cannot think as the other doth. And from this separation we intitle God to the patronage of, and concernment in, our fancies and distinction, and purely for his sake hate one another heartily. It was not so of old, when one of the most aptient Fathers of the church t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distempers']; Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distempers']; Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distemper']; Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distemper']; Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distempers'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sought for light and conviction:he had still received assurance of a heavenly sanction, and returned from these devout supplications with more serene tranquillity and satisfaction. That all the nations of the earth were, in the eyes of their Creator, less than a drop of water in the bucket; nor were their erroneous judgments aught but darkness, compared with divine illuminations. That these frequent illapses of the divine spirit he could not suspect to he interested illusions; since he was conscious, that for no temporal advantage, would he offer injury to the poorest man or woman that trod upon the earth. That all the allurements of ambition, all the terrors of imprisonment, had not been able, during the usurpation of Cromwell, to shake his steady resolution, or bend him to a compliance with that deceitful tyrant. Ami that when invited by him to sit on the right hand of the throne, when offered riches and splendour and dominion, he had disdainedly rejected all temptations; and neglecting the tears of his friends and family, had still, through every danger, held fast his principles and his integrity. — .Scot, who was more a republican than a fanatic, had ‘aid a little before the Restoration, that he desired no other epitaph to be inscribed on his tomb-stone than this; 4 Here lies Thu. Scot, who adjudged the king to death. ’ pose somewhat for the propagation of it, that will satisfy the world, that we have always made it both our care and our study, and have enough observed what is most like to bring disadvantage to it. And, the truth is, we do think ourself the more competent to propose, and, w ith God’s assistance, to determine, many things now in difference, from the time we have spent, and the experience we have had, in most of the Reformed Churches abroad, in France, in the Low Countries, and in Germany; where we have had frequent conferences with the most learned men, who have unanimously lamented the great reproach the Protestant Religion undergoes from the distempers and too notorious schisms in matters of Religion in England: and as the most learned amongst them have always, with great submis- -sion and reverence, acknowledged and magnified the established government of the Church of England, and the great countenance and shelter the Protestant Religion received from it, before these unhappy tunes; so many of them have, with great ingenuity and sorrow, ' confessed, that they were too easily misled by misinformation and prejudice, into some dis — esteem ot it, as if it had too much complied with the church of Rome; whereas, they now acknowledge it to be the best fence God hath yet raised against Popery in the world:and we are persuaded they do, with great zeal, wish it restored to its old dignity and veneration. — When we were in Holland, we were He supported the same spirit upon his trial. — Carew, a Millenarian, submitted to his trial, 4 saving to our Lord Jesus Christ his right to the government of these kingdoms.’ Some scrupled to say, according to form, that they would be tried by God and their country; because God was not visibly present to judge them. Others said, that they would be tried by the word of God. — No more than six of the late king’s judges, Harrison, Scot, Carew, Clement, Jones, and Scrape, were executed i Scrape alone, of all those who came in upon the king’s proclamation. He was a gentleman of good family and of a decent character: but it was proved, that he had a little before, in conversation, expressed himself as if he were no-wise convinced of any guilt in condemning the king. Axtel, who had guarded the high court of justice, Hacker, who commanded on the day of the king’s execution, Coke, the solicitor for the people of England, and Hugh Peters, the fanatical preacher, who inflamed the army and impelled them to regicide: all these were tried, and condemned, and suffered with the king’s judges. No saint or confessor ever went to martyrdom with more assured confidence of heaven than was expressed by those criminals, even when the terrors of immediate death, joined to many indignities, were set befure them. The rest of the king’s judges, by an unexampled lenity, were reprieved; and they were dispersed into several prisons." Ilume. 123] PARL. HISTORY, 12 Cuahles II. 1660. — concerning Ecclesiastical Affairs. [134 attended by many grave and learned ministers from hence, who were looked upon as the most abk and principal asserters of the Presbyterian options, with whom we had as much conference, as the multitude of affairs, which were ikeu upon us, would permit us to have; and, t» oor great satisfaction and comfort, found ties persons full of affection to us, of zeal for the peace of the Church and State, and neither enemies (as they have been given out to be) to Episcopacy or Liturgy; but modestly to ng Parliament revived, by Thomas Phillips, Gent." was offered to the consideration of the house, as a matter wherein their privileges were much concerned. Ordered, That the said 145] PARL. HISTORY, 12 Charles II. 1660. — Debate on the Court of Ward*. [146 Phillips be sent fur into custody, and the matter referred to the committee for privileges. Nov. 14. The Bill against Women, for re-fcing to cohabit with their Husbands, if desired, was read-a 2nd time. Mr. Ferrers spoke ib behalf of it, and offered a proviso to it. Sir Wo. Lew is was for casting it out. Mr. Prynne said he was for the bill, though be never had a rood or bad wife in his life. Mr. Walpole, That this was so severe a bill upon the Women, that, if a bridge was made from Dover to Calais, the women would all leave this king-in:that it therefore inverted the proverb; and England, that was formerly the heaven, would be now the hell for women. However, the bill was committed. Debate on the Militia Bill.] Nov. 16. Mr. Kmghtley brought in a bill for settling the Militia of this kingdom; which was read a first time, and on which a debate ensued, which wc give from the Diary. — Mr. Pierepoint moved for casting out this bill, because there was martial law provided in it; which, be said, would be a strange grievance laid upon the people, and desired another bill might be drawn without it. — Sir lleneage Finch said, That whoever brought in martial law deferred to be made the first exafople of it. Neither could he ever consent to bring themselves to be wards to an army, when they were endeavouring to free themselves from being so to the king:bat was for a 2nd reading, for the better understanding of this bill. — Sir Walter Lie said, He never knew any bill that ever intrenched so liar upon the subject's privilege as tbts did, and moved tor another bill. Mr. Knight spoke for this bill. — Mr. Goodrich said, It was ooe of the best and worst bills that could be made, and moved for an alteration. .Sr Edw. Turner said. That it was fitting there should be great care taken for the settlement of the Miliua; but could not agreetoset up such t martial law as Mr. Pierepoint spoke of. Lord Falkland said. That the settling of the Militia heretofore occasioned all their last mischief, and therefore advised a 2nd reading. — Sir Wm. Lewis moved that the bill might be read •cam on that day se’nnient, since many objections might arise, the bill being of so great importance as to require much consideration •bout it. Serj. Charlton said, There was reason for compulsory justice for those who refuse to obey orders; and therefore moved to amend the bill speedily, and read it the next morning. Mr. Drake questioned for writing a Book ailed, " The Long Parliament revived."] Nov. 17. Mr. Secretary Morrice acquainted (be bouse, That he had found out and examined the Author of the dangerous Book, called The Long Parliament revived.* That his name was William Drake; that he had * As this Pamphlet is purely parliamentary, ud is not to be met with but io some old Collections, a copy thereof is given in the Appendix to the pnmnt Volume, No. I * Voi. IV. confessed to him he wrote the said Book, which struck at the root of their proceedings; and that he was in custody at the door. — Captain Titus said, That he ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distemper']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e; but to lay ft on the Excise of Ale and Beer. Sir Tbo. Bludworth against the Excise, and for a Land Rate. Mr. Annesley was for placing the tax upon Land; which, he said, ought to pay, and not to charge it upon the poor people, by way of Excise. Sir Heneage Finch moved for referring it to a committee, to propose a method for raising the sum required. Mr. Knightley and sir Walter Erie spoke for a Land Rate; which was objected to by serj. Charlton, who said, He never knew a land PARL. HISTORY, 12 Charles II. 1660. — Debate on the Court of Ward*. [14S U7] rate perpetual, as this roust be. Sir George | Reeves was rather for regulating the Court of Wards, than burden the people with taxes. Sir John Frederick for laying it upon the land, which ought to pay it. — Upon the whole, it wa9 resolved to adjourn the debate till the 21st instant. Resolutions against Mr. Drake’s Book.] Nov. 20. Serjeant Raynesford reported that the committee appointed to examine Mr. Drake’s Book bad come to the following Resolutions:l. " That the pamphlet, intituled The Long Parliament revived, ’ &c. is seditious in those particulars which were alledged at the committee. 2. That the house be moved to order, that the said Pamphlet be publickly burut by the hands of the common hangman. 3. That the house be desired to appoint a committee for the drawing up an Impeachment, in the name of all the commons of England, against Win. Drake, for penning and publishing of this seditious Pamphlet, to be presented to the lords. 4. That the house be moved. That the said Win. Drake may be kept under such restraint, that uone may have access to •peak with him." Debate thereon.] The MS. Diary tells us, that sir Edw. Massey presented a Petition to the house, from Mr. Drake, acknowledging his faults as a rash and inconsiderate action; that be had ever retained his loyalty, and humbly begged the king’s pardon and the favour of the bouse. Sir Edward spoke also in his behalf, saying, That he looked upon him to be distempered, and therefore desired the favour of the house for him. Mr. Secretary Morrice said. That punishment in the Greek was the same as example, and that he ought to be made one, because he did not own their power; and moved to agree with the committee. Captain Titus spoke highly in his favour, saying, He did not think him infallible, though he knew him to be extremely loyal; but he wanted that temper of mind which he ought to have; and added, that his former merits should compensate for his present slip. Lord Falkland was for condemning him first, and then leave him to the king’s mercy. Sir Harry North said, It was true he had been loyal, but did not know whether he was so then; and was for agreeing with the committee. Mr. Hyde moved to examine him again, whether any one saw this Book, and approved it before it was published, and was for agreeing with the committee. Mr. Palmer was for making hjtn an example. Sir Hencage Finch said, 1 he price of the book was raised, and that every one hoped all would be turned upside down again; that the burning the book was too tame a punishment; that no man had merit enough to expiate the setting the kingdom in a flame again; and moved to agree in all with the committee. Mr. Annesley said, He did agree that the Hook was seditious, but the man repented of it, and had formerly merited; that it was hard to ruin a man for the first fault, and moved to forbear a while the severity of his punishment, but to burn the book. Sir John Northcot said, It was not safe nor honourable for them to spare him; and moved to agree in all with the committee but the imprisonment. Mr. Howard, That, be was a person who was writing a Mene TekeA? upon the well against them, and that they would not so much as rap him upon the fingers; that he ought to be severely punished, by being tied up to the gallows, whilst his Book was burning below it; for if he, being a friend, wrote in that manner, what would their enemies do ? Sir John Potts moved to have him make a public recantation whilst his book was burning. Mr. Knight, to make an example of him, notwithstanding his former merits. — At last Mr. Harris proving to put the Resolves of the committee, singly, to the question, it was voted, nem. con. That the Book was seditious; that an Impeachment be drawn against Mr. Drake; and that sir Heneage Finch go up to the lords with it, the next morning, and carry the Book along with him. — But though this prosecution against Mr. Drake was ordered in 60 warm a manner, we do not find that the commons made any great haste in it. For, though the Impeachment was brought in, read, and ordered to be ingrossed, on the 26th instant, and the manner of presenting it to the lords ordered to be considered of on the 29th, we hear no more of the matter till the 4th of the next month, when the Impeachment was actually sent up to the lords by the lord Falkland; as will shortly be seen. Further Debate on the Court of Words.] Nov. 21. The commons went again on the business of the Court of Wards, when sir Heneage Finch opened the debate, by moving. That the annual Income to be settled on the king, in lieu therereof, might be raised by an Excise on Beer and Ale, and to take away Purveyance also. And that half of this Excise might be settled for the king’s life, and the other half for ever on the crown. This motion was seconded by Mr. Bunckley and Mr. Pierepoint; but sir John Frederick, Mr. Jol-liffe, sir Win. Vincent, Mr, Annesley, and some others, spoke against it. The last-named gentleman saying, That if this bill was carried, every man who earns his bread by the sweat of his brow must pay Excise, to excuse the Court of Wards, which would be a greater grievance upon all, than the Court of Wards was to a few. Sir A, A. Cooper spoke against the Court of Wards, and for the Excise. Mr. Prynne, against the Excise, saying, It was not fit to make all house-keepers hold in capita, and to free the nobility:and inveighed passionately, says the Diary, against the Excise; adding, That those Lands which ought to pay, being held in capite, should pay still. Mr. Bamfield said, He was against an everlasting Excise, and for laying the tax on lands in capite. Mr. Baintop also was against an Excise, saying, If it was carried so, they might expect that, one time or other, there would be some strange commotions by the common peo- U9] ^ARL HISTORY, 12 Charles it. Message from the king. [l$0 pkaboot it; that he was rather for keeping the Court of Wards, regulated in its proceeding, thsu tobmit to an Excise, which, if it w«s kept op, an army must be so to sustain it; Sir Tbo. Clarges was against the Excise, say-b{, That the rebellion in Naples ciune from impositions and excises. — This debate was coded bj serj. Maynard and Mr. Trevor, who both spoke for an Excise, though the last said, that nothin; bot the Court of Wards taking way should have moved him to it. At last, the question being called for, the house divided, the numbers 151 against 149, when it was resolved, " That the Moiety of the Excise of Beer, Ale, Cyder, Perry, and Strong Waters, at the Bate it was now levied, shall be settled on the king’s majesty, his heirs and successors, is full recompence and satisfaction for all tenures in capite, and by knights service; and •fthe Court of Wards and Liveries; and all emoluments thereby accruing, and in full satisfaction of all Purveyance.* Resolved also. That the further consideration of settling a BeTenue of 1, 200,000l. a year, on the king's majesty, be adjourned to the 20d instant.’' Message from the King concerning a Ditto-latioa.] Nov. 29. The commons received a Hnsage from the lords desiring a present con- ference in the Painted-Ch ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Act should be carried io the affirmative, we, in pursuance thereof, do enter our Protests against the said Act for these reasons following:That Fines are the foundations of the assurances of the realm, upon which so many titles do depend, and therefore ought not to be shaken; nor hath there any precedent occurred to us; wherein any Fines have been vacated by judgment or act of parliament, or otherwise, without consent of the parties; the eye of the law looking upon Fines as tilings always transacted with consent, and with that reverence, that no averment whatsoever shall be good against them when they are perfected; and farther, we conceive, that by a future law to vacate assurances, which are good by the standing law, is unreasonable and of a dangerous consequence, especially in this case, where Skinner and Chute, purchasers of a considerable part of the lands comprized in the said Fines, have petitioned, and yet have not been beard upon the merits of their case, which is contrary, as we conceive, to the statute of 28 Edw. 3. c. 3. which saith, No man shall be put out of his land or tenement, nor disinherited, without being brought to answer by due process of law/ (Signed) Edw. Hyde, C, F. Montague, \V. Say and Seale, T. Culpeper, T. Willoughby, Portland, Sandys, Will. Petre, Gba. Hatton, Ch. Richmond and Lenos, Manchester, Tho. Coventry, W. Roberts, Brecknock, Norwich, Brudenelf, L. Howard, W. Grey, Albemarle, Berkshire. A. Capell, ' Ro. Lexington, Suffolk, Stafford, Fr. Dacre, P. Wharton." Debate on the Bill far settling the Excise on the King for Life.] Dec. 14. Sir Heneage Finch brought in a bill from the Committee, for settling on the King, daring his life, the other Moiety of the Excise on Beer, Ale, and . 1660. — Debate on the Excise Bill, [160 other liquors; * which was rend twice, and ordered to be referred to a Grand Committee, who were to sit de die in diem till that business was dispatched. — As it has ever been the custom of parliament to go upon Grievances whenever subsidial Bills were in agitation, so now, when this grand Settlement on the Crowd wrs before the commons, this old affair was resumed, but it was somewhat singular to talk of Grievances in a government so newly established, though upon its old foundation. __ On this occasion. Sir Walter Erie moved* to do somewhat for the good of the people, in lieu of these great payments, and complained of some disorders in the Army. He said, That soldiers had come into some houses be knew of, ' and calling the people Roundheads, nad done much mischief; which he moved might be taken care of. This * The celebrated Andrew Marvell, in his first Letter to the Corporation of Hull, writes thus: " The Excise bill for longer continuance (I wish it prove not too long) will come in next week. And I foresee we shall be called upon shortly to effect our vote made the former sitting of raising his majesty's Revenue to 1, 200,000l. per mnn. I do not love to write so much of this money news, but I think you have observed that Parliaments have been always made use of to that purpose, and though we may buy gold too dear, yet we must at any rate be glad of peace, freedom, and a good conscience." Vol. i. p. 4. Dr. Granger in his Biographical History of England speaks thus of Marvell: " He was an admirable master of ridicule, which he exerted with great freedom in the cause of liberty and virtue. He never respected vice for being dignified, and dared to attack it wherever he found it, though on the throne itself. There never was a more honest satirist. His pen was always properly directed, and had some effect upon such as were under no check or restraint from any laws human or divine. He hated corruption more than he dreaded poverty; and was so for from being venal, that he could not be bribed by the king into silence, when he scarce knew how to procure a dinner. He was chosen member of parliament for Kingston upon Hull, before and after the Restoration. The people of that place, who honoured his abilities, but pitiea his poverty, raised a contribution for his support. This was probably the last borough in England that paid a representative. As even trivial anecdotes of so ingenious and so honest a man are worth preserving, I shall subjoin the following, taken from a MS. of Mr. John Aubrey, who. personally knew him:lie was of a middling * stature, pretty strong set, roundish faced, * cherry-cheeked, hazel eyed, -brown haired. * He was, in his conversation, very modest and * of very few words. He was wont to say, he ‘ would not drink high or freely with Hoy one, * with whom he would not trust his life/ " VoU iii. p.357 and voUv. p. 49. PAIL HISTORY, 12 Charles II. 1660. — Second Bill of Settlement patted. [l62 mot ion was seconded b sir John Northcot, who moved for a Committee to consider of it, end present the Grievances to the lords; and if they arould not redress them, then this bouse to remonstrate to the king. Col. King complained against the arbitrary power of Wd-iieutenants, particularly the lord Derby. Hr. Stevens said. That ns he had lived on Eng-tafciaao, be desired to die so, 'and not to leave ku posterity slaves. He spoke also against the lord-heutenant9, and moved for a Committee to eiamine all A buses. Sir George Booth for the same; saying. There were very great abuses abroad. JVIr. Palmer moved to check eol. King, who mistook his information concerning lord Derby. Mr. Harry Hungerford spoke also against the exorbitances; averring, That, to his knowledge, in some places, 9s. a-dav was exacted for each trooper, and this especially whilst the parliament is sitting; and aoved to acquaint the king with these Grievance*. — Sir Heneage Finch said, The remedy »mtu be had without going oat of the door; k was but to resume the Debate of the Militia, whereby all these abuses might be regu-hud. He. moved against any Remonstrance; which, be said, was the wilderness in which at first they wandered to destruction; and was ax for having them sully the glory of their flfving, the Revenue, with a complaint to the king at the same time. — T he dr bate still con-tttuiag, lord Howard said. That these com-phiats were not so universal as some would aake them. He justified the district where hthad to do from any such thing; but that it •II might be remedied by resuming the Militia W. Mr. Bunckley was satisfied that there •are such Abuses done; but said, That in his coaiuy all was quiet, by the care of the lord-bw ten ant there; yet was for a bill to restrain •U. Mr. Banafield acquainted the house, That he bad a pe tition given him, by one, against the lord Derby, about a minister kept out of kk church, whilst another was put into it by ford Derby’s soldiers, who had taken pos-Ksaoo of the minister’s house:that they knocked him down several times, crying, ‘ Is the rogue living still P'That they also knocked down his wife, which made her mi?carry; *nd, after thus injuring them, turned them both out of doors. But yet, he said, Thar, in •li these complaints, there was no reflection thrown upon his majesty, hot on those employed under him. He thought the bill for the Militia could not now be finished in time; but moved to acquaint the king with these tttiu, and desire his care and reproof ffottin. In answer to this charge against the ford Derby’s soldiers, Mr. Rigby stood up and •id. That he came through the town where the minister lived, and dwelt himself not far bom thence, and he heard nothing of this great mmfdamt made by Mr. Bamflcld:since he I. U> town, he heard that this minister, Mr. fionop, refused to give obedience to a replevin, which caused a great opposition by the Menu’s officers, and som ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e rising in the West under Ludlow, and in the North under others; but this place was the scene of greatest hopes; they made sure of a hody here, 1 think they say of 2500 men, with which they resolved, in the first place, to secure (you know what that security is) the person of the General the duke of. Albemarle, with whom they have so much reason to be angry, and at the same lime to possess themselves of Whitehall: you know the method used in such possession, kill and take possession. And this insupportable calamity God hath again diverted from us; though I must tell you the poor men, who seem to speak honestly, and upon the impulsion of conscience, are very far from being confident that there will not be some desperate insurrection and attempts in several parts of this kingdom, within a short time, which all possible care will be taken to prevent; and, in truth, this very good city so well requires the king’s abundant grace and kindness to it, that 173] PARL. HISTORY, 12 Chables II. sot only by the unwearied pains and diligence of the worthy lord mayor, but by the general temper and constitution of the whole city, the discontented and seditious party (which can never be totally extirpated out of such a metropolis) is like to have little encouragement to pursue their desperate councils. — The king 0 62-3. — The Earl of Bristol's Speech [272 submission avow whatever his majesty is pleased to affirm of me; but, haring discharged that duty towards my sovereign, I hope 1 may be allowed to lay the fault home upon myself, and to tell you, that my tongue, I know not by what distemper, delivered that which, I protest to God, was never in my thoughts; I was so far from thinking to deliver such a Message from sir Rd. Temple, that I did not think myself charged with any thing by way Message. It is true, Mr. Speaker, that, being full of indignation at ill offices done him, I made a warm address to his majesty in sir Rd. Temple’s behalf, wherein I expressed his grief, thnt his majesty should be offended with him, and having joined thereunto some reasonings of his to justify his conduct, in relation to his majesty’s service, very agreeable to my own sentiments, I pursued his expressions with such of iny own, as (all circumstances considered) the most unattentive person, and- the most biassed with passion against sir Richard Temple, might have easily understood it to be no undertaking of his, but only a warm discourse, and confident undertaking of my own. — Sir Rd. Temple being tints cleared, without the least contradiction to his majesty, if to undertake for you, gentlemen, be a guilt, it is only f that stand guilty before you. But you are too noble, I am sure, and too just, to condemn me in your judgments, before you have heard the nature and circumstances of my undertaking; which, with your leave, I shall declare to the full, taking the matter (as I must needs, to be rightly understood) from an higher original. Mr. Speaker, having had the honour heretofore of discharging, with approbation, a place of so high trust, as that of Secretary of State to his majesty’s father of blessed memory, and to himself: and since my quitting that place, being admitted so frequently to the happiness of his princely conversation, you cannot imagine, but that sometimes lie vouchsafed to speak to me of business, especially of parliaments, where I have the honour at present to be a peer, and have heretofore been as much versed, as some of my contemporaries, in the proceedings of the honourable house of commons. I confess, that, before this last assembling, he did it more ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ainst the advice of the lord general to withdraw the English garrisons out of Scotland, and to demolish all the forts built there at so vast a charge to this kingdom.-That, his majesty having been graciously pleased to communicate the desires tof the parliament of Scotland, for the remove of the said garrisons, to his parliament of England, and to ask their advice therein, the said earl of Clarendon not only persuaded his majesty actually to remove those garrisons, without ex- frecting the advice of his parliament of Eng-and concerning it, but did, by menaces of his majesty's displeasure, deter several members of parliament from moving the houses, as they intended, to enter upon consideration of that matter. — That he hath traiterously and maliciously endeavoured to alienate his majesty's affections a hd esteem from this his parliament; by telling his majesty, That there never was so weak nor so inconsiderable a bouse of lords, nor never so weak nor so heady a 4 house of commons, ' or words to that effect; and particularly, 4 That it was better to sell Dunkirk, than to be at their mercy for want of money, ’ or words to that effect. — That he hath wickedly and maliciously, contrary to his duty of a counsellor, and to a known law made the last sessions, by which money was given and particularly applied for the maintaining of Dunkirk, advised and effected . the Sale of the same to the French king. — That he hath maliciously and contrary to law enriched himself and his creatures by the Sale of Offices. — That, contrary to h's duty, he hath wickedly and corruptly converted to his own use great and vast sums of public money raised in Ireland, by way of subsidy, private and public benevolences, and otherwise, given and intended to defray the charge of government in that kingdom; by which means a supernumerary and disaffected army hath been kept up there, for want of money to pay them off; and their want of pay, so occasioned, seems to be the cause of the late and present distempers in that kingdom. That, having arrogated to himself a supreme direction of " all Ins majesty’s affairs, lie path with a malicious and corrupt intention prevailed to have his majesty’s Customs fanned at a far lower rate than others did offer, and that by persons with some of whom he goes a share in that and other parts of monies resulting from his majesty’s Revenue. Bristol." " In pursuance of this Charge, it is desired, That the person of the earl of Clarendon may be secured, That his majesty’s counsel learned in the law be appointed to draw up a Charge in form, according to these Heads and such others a? the carl of Bristol shall exhibit, and to prosecute in the king’s behalf. That there he a liberty granted of additional Charges, according as the earl of Bristol shall be enabled to make out proofs of new matter. That Commissions he granted for examination of divers witnesses, both in Scotland and Ireland, according to the List the earl of Bristol shall give in. That order be taken, that the lord Aubigny and Mr. Rd. Beling, two most important witnesses, depart not the kingdom, till they have answered fully to the interrogatories which are to be proposed unto them. , " Bu19TOL." To which Articles the Lord Chancellor made a short speech extempore to some of the particulars, and declared his innocence. * Lord Clarendon's own account of this transaction is as follows:" The earl of Bristol cainc one morning to the house of peers with a Paper in his hand; and told the lords, 4 that * he could not hut observe, that after so glo-4rious a return with which God had blessed the king and the nation, so that all the world had expected, that the prosperity of the kingdom would have far exceeded the misery * and adversity that it had for many years endured; and after the parliament had contributed more towards it, than ever parliament had done:notwithstanding all which, it was evident to all men, and lamented by those who wished well to his majesty, that his affairs grew ev ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'Distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prorogation.] After giving the royal assent to 14 public and 12 private Bills his majesty made the following Speech: " My lords and gentlemen; I thank you for / the present you have made me this day; and I Hope your countries will thank you when you come home for having done it. I am not conscious of having brought the streighu and necessities I am in upon myself, by any improvidence or ill husbandry of my own: I know the contrary; and, I assure you, I would not have desired or received the Supply you have now given me, if it were not absolutely necessary for your peace and quiet as well as mine. And, I must tell you, it will do me very little good, if I do not improve it by very good husbandry of my own, and by retrenching those very ex pences which in many respects may be thought necessary enough. But you shall see, I will much rather impose upon myself than upon my subjects; and if all incu will follow my example in retrenching their expences, which (it may be) they may do with much more convenience than I can do mine, the kingdom will in a very short time gain what you have given me this day. — I am very glad you arc now going into your several countries, where your presence will do much good ? and I hope your vigilance and authority will prevent those disturbances which the restless spirits of ill and unquiet men will he always •contriving, and of which, I do assure you, they promise themselves some effects this summer. — There have been niore pains and unusual ways taken to kindle the old fatal fears and jealousies than I thought I should ever have lived to have seen, nt least to have seen so countenanced. — I do desire you and conjure you, my lords and gentlemen, to watch this evil spirit and temper with your utmost care ami prudence, and secure the persons of those whom you find are possessed with it, that the peace of the kingdom be not sacrificed to their pride, humour and madness. — I did expect to have had some Bills presented to me against the several Distempers in Religion, against seditious Conventicles, and against the Growth of Popery: but, it may he, you have been in some fear of reconciling those contradictions in religion, in some conspiracy against the public peace, to which, I doubt, men of the most contrary motives in conscience are inclinable enough, I Ho promise you to lay this business, and the mischiefs which may flow from the licenses, to heart. And if I live to meet with you again, as I hope 1 shall, I will myself take care to present two Bills to you to that end. And, as I have already given it in charge to the Judges, in their several cir- 589] RARL. HIST. 15 Charles n. 1663-4.. caits, to use their utmost endenvours to prevent and punish the scandalous and seditious Meetings of Sectaries, and to convict the Papists; so I will be as watchful, and take all the pains 1 can, that neither the one or the other shall disturb the peace of the kingdom.-^-! shall not need to desire you to use all diligence in ierring and collecting the Subsidies you hate given me; and heartily wish the distri-fationmay be made with all equality and justice, and without any animosity or faction, or remembering any thing that hath been done in the late 111 times, which, you know, we are all obliged to forget, as well as to forgive. And indeed, till we have done so, we can sever be in perfect peace; and therefore I can sever put you too much in mind of it. — I think it necessary to make this a session, that so the current of justice may run the two next terms without any obstruction by privilege of parliament; and therefore I shall prorogue you till the 16th day of March, when I doubt not, by God’s blessing, we shall meet again to our joint satisfaction, and that you shall have cause to thank me fof what I do in the interval." Ha majesty, having ended his aforesaid Speech, called unto him the Lord Privy Seal, who was Speaker this day, and gave him directions what to say further; who returning to ba place pronounced these words: " M ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- d not otherwise remove that mischief. The Answer they received from his maj. was so full of caudour, as if he thought his good allies the States General would never put him to use extreme remedies, but would meet the complaints of his subjects with just and proportionable satisfaction; and that he did really believe, as well as wish, that they w ould do so, is manifest, by his having provided for that season a much less guard of ships than he had set out ever since his happy restoration, intending, by the saving that unnecessary expence (as he then thought) to have plentifully supplied his magazines and stores, which is a treasure he hath always laboured'to have still in readiness by him. — His maj. took this occasion to require his minister at the Hague to press the States General very ear» nestly for expedition in doing that justicelwhich for above a year he- had in vain pressed them to do, and in which, he told them, the oppressions his subjects underwent could uot bear longer delay. Instead of returning any Answer to his inaj. which for some months they deferred to do, they with great passion and noise sent orders to their several admiralties, to prepare and equip a great number of ships of war, the number whereof they increased every 10 or 12 days; with unusual orders, that no time should be lost in making the pre-pnrations, but that they should work night and day, as well the Sundays as the other part of the week; and great numbers of landmen were likewise appointed to be raised for their expedition. — This strange kind of treatment, together with many rude pamphlets and insolent expressions, which can hardly be prevented in popular governments, prevailed with his maj. (although he yet believed himself secure in the wisdom of the States General against any rash attempt in the violation of the peace) to take speedy course for the putting 10 or 12 ships iuto a readiness (which yet he meant should be no further than rigging ), if they should pursue their present distempers. — In August, they received news that capt. Holmes, who, with one of his majesty's ships, had convoyed some merchants of the royal company to the coast of Grinev, had by assault taken and possessed himself of a fort near Cape de Verte, belonging to their West Indian Company; whereupon the States General sent a wonderful hrisk Message to the king, at once complaining of the injury, and requiring, in very peremptory terms, that his majesty would forthwith give order for the re-delivery of the said fort to them. The king assured the ambassador, upon his princely word, ‘ That he had given no commission or order to capt. Holmes for that purpose, nor did know upon what grounds he had proceeded to that act of hostility; that he expected him shortly at borne; and that he would then proceed in a very strict examination of his proceedings, and would cause exemplary justice to be done, as well in the 899] PARL. HIST. 16 Charles II. 166*. — re-delivering the fort, as in punishing the person if his carriage and demeanor deserved it/ This Answer had no better luck than die former Message: new orders for more ships, for raising of money, for raising of men, publishing in their prints, that what was done by capt. Holmes was by his majesty’s warrant and authority; and within a very short time after they had the confidence to demand of his maj. in express terms, that he would give it under his royal band to them, that he would cause the tort to be delivered within such a time. — His maj. did not yet, after all these provocations, lay aside all hope of awakening the States General to a more temperate consideration of what bad passed. He desired them, in an Answer which he made to some of their propositions, and which he transmitted to them under his own hand by their ambassador, to reflect a little upon the method of their proceeding with him, and the course lie had observed towards them: not to mention those loud affronts, indignities, and injuries, he had put into oblivion in his ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e, our sins do cry aloud, as well as theirs; hut God is pleased in mercy to correct us himself, whilst by our hands he doth punish them, and make them fly before us. I hope this mercy will invite us to a national lepen-tance: and ‘if God be with us, who thru can be against us?’ — Wc cannot but-take notice of the sordid defection of some English fugitives, who have traitorously joined with the Dutch, both in their councils and actions, against your majesty and this their native country. We therefore have prepared a Bill, w hereby they are enjoined to return by a day, and answer to the law; or else they shall be attainted ami be subject to the pains and penalties of condemned traitors. — It hath been an old observation, " That scandalous Livings make scandalous Ministers; *' and this most frequently falls out in cities and corporate towns, where are'htflc or no predial tytbcs; and therefore the preachers, for mere want, are forced to chant such tunes ns may best please the rich men in their parishes: for prevention of this for the future, there is a Bill prepared, for the uniting of small Churches and Chapels in cities and towns corporate by the consent of the patron, reserving all other parochial rites distinct as they were before. — This being a time wherein your maj. needs great Supplies, we held it our duty to ease the people in some unnecessary expences; and therefore we have prepared a Bill for the more* effectual proceeding upon Distresses and Avowries for Rents; another to avoid Circuity of Actions; and a third to lessen the Charge of unnecessary Suits in Law:there is’an ancient Fee received in your majesty’s courts of law, called Damage Clear, or Damna Clcricorum, which is the tenth penny of such damages as are there recovered in many actions. This was first introduced for the encouragement of clerks, to employ themselves to the study of drawing special pleadings, which are grown so familiar by the disuse of real actions, that the fee now is looked upon as a grievance, especially when the plaintiff is forced to pay it upon the signing of his judgment, and perhaps the defendant is not able to answer any part of the execution:therefore w-e have prepared a Bill for the regulating of this for the present, and after 7 yoars to take it quite away. — Tacitus hath a saying, .* Such as are false in their love, are true in their hate and this rule we find verified in our Non-conformists. Whilst they were in the bosom of the Church of England, they were like inward vapours and inward bleedings, always oppressing and strangling the body of the Church; and now they are ejected and excluded from their ministerial function, they have more malice, and no less opportunity to propagate their principles, than they had before. Some of them are objects of pity. They submitted their reason to their 331] PARL. HIST. 18 Cimir.rs II. 166G. — [J.>? lenders of a higher chassis, w ho failed them in their hopes, and left them to the rigour of the law. These poor creatures have seen thtir error, and feel the smart, ana would live peaceably; hut their Jesuitical leaders keep up their spirits, and herd with them in' cities and corporate towns, where, by pretence of persecution and self-denial, they move the pity of good-natured people, and with their charity keep up their party, lessen the maintenance of conforming ministers, and spread their contagion amongst the youth of the nation:for the prevention of this growing mischief, we have prepared nShiboleth, a Test to distinguish amongst them, w ho w ill be peaceable and give hopes of future Conformity, and w ho of malice and evil disposition remain obdurate. The one wc shall keep amongst us w ith all love and charity; the other we shall exclude from cities and corporate towns, like those that have an infectious disease upon them. — It is not unusual for the commons, at the close of a session of parliament, by their Speaker, to present a Pennon to their sovereign; and, with your majesty’s leave, I am now comma ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- bate were observed. And there being, amongst those who advanced the Bill, fewer speakers than there were of those who were against it, those few took upon them to speak oflener than they ought to do, and to mour, and Mr. Garraway, and sir Rob. Howard; who were all bold speakers, and meant to make themselves considerable by saying, upon all occasions, what wiser men would not, whatever they thought. The duke of Buckingham took more pains than was agreeable to his constitution to get an interest in all such persons, invited them to his table, pretended to have a great esteem of their parts, asked counsel of them, lamented the king’s neglecting his business, and committing it to other people who were not fit for it; and then reported all the license and debauchery of the court in the most lively colours, being himself a frequent eye and earwitness of it. He had a mortal quarrel with the lady, and was at this time so much in the king’s displeasure (us he was very frequently ), that he forbore going to the court, and revenged himself upon it by all the merry tales he could tell of what was done there. — It cannot be imagined, considering the loose life he led (which was a life more by night than by day) in all the liberties that nature could desire or wit invent, how great an interest he had in both houses of parliament; that is, how many in both would follow his advice, and concur in what he proposed. His quality and condescensions, the pleasantness of his'humour and conversation, the extrnva-ance and sharpness of his wit, unrestrained y any modesty or religion, drew persons of all affections and inclinations to like his company; and to believe that the levities and the vanities would be wrought off by age, and there would enough of good be left to become a great man, and make him useful to his country, for which he pretended to have a wonderful affection an$ reverence; and that all his displeasure against the court proceeded from their declared malignity against the liberty of the subject, and their desire that the king should govern by the example of France. He bad always held intelligence with the principal persons of the Levelling party, and professed to desire that liberty of conscience might be granted to all; and exercised his wit with most license against the church, the law, and the court. The king had constant intelligence of all his behaviour, and the liberty he took in his discourses of him, for which he had indignation enough: but of this new stratagem to make himself great in parliament, and to have a faction there to disturb his business, his majesty had no apprehension, believing it impossible for the duke to keep his mind long bent upon any particular design, or to keep and observe those hours and orders of sleeping and eating, as men who pretend to business are obliged to; and that it was more impossible for him to make and preserve a friendship with any serious persons, whom he could never restrain himself from abusing and making ridiculous, as soon as he was out of their company. Yet with all these infirmities and vices he found a respect and concurrence from men of different tempers and talents, and had an incredible opinion with the people." Lord Clarendon’s Life, p. 369. Life, p. 374. 341] PARL. HISTORY, 18 Charles II. 1666. — the Duke of Buckingham. [342 reply to every man who declared himself to be of another opinion: and when they were put in mind of the rule of the house, 4 that no man should speak above once upon the same question/ they called presently to have the bouse resolved into a committee, which any single member may require, and then every man may speak as often as he please; and so the time was spent unprofitably without the business being advanced. In the mean time the commons proceeded as irregularly, in sending frequent Messages to hasten the dispatch of the Bill, when they knew well the debate of every-day: and it was frequently'urged as an argument, 4 that the commons was the fittest judge of the necessities and grievances of the people; and they having passed this Bill, the lords ought to conform to their opinion.’ In fine, there grew so great a license of wortis in this debate, and so many personal reflections, that every davsome quarrels arose, to the great scandal and dishonour of a court that was the supreme judicatory of the kingdom. * The Lord Otsory challenges the Duke of Buckingham.] The duke of Buckingham, who assumed a liberty of speaking when and what he would in a dialect unusual and ungrave, his similes and other expressions giving occasion of much mirth and laughter, one day said in the debate, that whoever was against the above Bill had either an Irish interest or an Irish understandingwhich so much offended the lord Ossory, who was eldest son to the duke of Ormond, that meeting him afterwards in the court, he desired the Duke that he would walk irtto the next room with him, and there told him, that he had taken ' the liberty to use many loose and unworthy expressions which reflected upon the whole Irish nation, and which he himself resented so much that be expected satisfaction, and to find him with his sword in his hand:which the duke endeavoured to avoid by all the fair words and shifts be could use, but was so far pressed by the other, whose courage was never doubted, that be could not avoid appointing a place where they would presently meet, which he found the other would exact to prevent discovery, and therefore had chosen rather to urge it himself, than to send a message to him. And 0 he named a known place in Chelsea Fields, »ud to be there within less than an hour. — The lord Ossory made baste thither, and expected him much beyond the time; and then teeing some persons come out of the way towards the place where he was, and concluding they were sent out to prevent any action between them, he avoided speaking with them, bat got to the place where his horse was, and *> retired to London. The duke was found by himself in another place on the other side of the ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e in Ireland by the testimony of the lord lieutenant and council of that kingdom, ooly upon the speculation of a future benetit that might accrue, though it were yet only in speculation.’ — These* and many other arguments of this kind, which for the most part were offered by men who had not the least relation to Ireland, made no other impression, than that they were content to leave Scotland out of the Bill; which increased their party against Ireland, and gave little satisfaction to the other, who did not so much value the commerce with the other kingdom. And this alteration the commons likewise consented to, but with great opposition, since in truth that concession destroyed the foundation upon which the whole fabrick of the Bill was supported. — Then the debate fell upon some derogatory Clauses, and Provisos very contrary to his majesty’s just prerogative and power (for they made his majesty’s own license and warrant of no effect or authority, but liable to he controlled by a constable; nor would permit the Importation of 3000 beeves, which, by •o act of parliament in Ireland, were every year to be delivered at Chester and another port for the provision of the king’s house); which in many respects the bouse generally disliked, and desired, ‘ That it might have no other style than had been accustomed in all the penal acts of parliament which were in force, it being to be presumed, that the king would never dispence with any violation of it, except in such cases as the benefit and good of the kingdom required it; which might naturally fallout, if there should happen such a murrain amongst the beasts of that species, as had been these late years amongst horses, which bad destroyed so many thousand, that good horses were now hard to be procured. And if the same or the like destruction should fall upon the other cattle, we should have then more cause to complain of the scarcity and the dearness of meat, than we have now of the plenty and cheapness, which was the only grievance uow felt, and which kingdom seldom complained of: aod in such a case it would be very great pity, that the king should not have power enough to, provide for the supply of hi* subjects, and to prevent a common dearth.’ — But this was again opposed with as much passion and violence as had fallen out in any part of the debate; and. such rude arguments used against such a power in the king, as if the question were upon reposing some new trust in him, whereas it was upon divesting him of a trust that was inherent in him from all antiquity:and That it was the same thing to be without the Bill, and not to provide against the king’s dispensing with the not obeying it, whose inclinations were well known in this particular; and therefore the effect of them, and of the importunity of the courtiers, must he provided against.’ And throughout this discourse there was such a liberty of language made use of, as reflected more upon the king’s honour, and indeed upon his whole council and court, than had been heard in that house, but in a time of rebellion, without very severe reprehension:and it so much offended the house now, that, notwithstanding all the sturdy opposition, it was resolved that those Clauses and Provisos should be amended in some places, and totally left out in others. And with these Alterations and Amendments it was sent down to the commons. * The Commons adhere to their Bill.] When the Bill was sent ro the commons with those Alterations and Amendments, they rejected them ail, and voted, 4 That they would adhere to their own Bill without departing from a word of it, except with reference to Scotland/ from which they had receded. And if upon this very unusual return the house of peers had’ likewise voted, that they too would adhere/ which they might regularly have done, and would have been consented to by the. major part of the house if the question had been then put; there had been an end of that Bill. But that must not be suffered: the party that cherished it ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- restrain him within the Castle; at which time Henry Marten, a traitor, one of the late regicides, then a prisoner there, had liberty to go abroad out of the said Castle without a keeper. VI. That the said lord M. during the said Wm. Tayleur’s imprisonment, illegally refused to return and obey an Habeas Corpus brought by the said Mr. Tayleur for his enlargement; and being afterwards served with an Habeas Corpus by Simondson, servant to the said Mr. Tayleur, for his enlargement, the said lord M. in high contempt of his majesty's authority and laws of this realm, gave the said servant reproachful language, calling him ‘ rogue' for delivering the said writ; and saying, that was all the answer he would give to it, ’ directly refusing to obey the same: and continued the said Mr. Tayleur divers weeks after a prisoner till jet at liberty upon a Pluries Habeas Corpus, by his majesty’s Court of King’s Bench. VII. That the said Mr. Tayleur, soon after aw enlargement, hearing and fearing that he would be again illegally imprisoned by the wid lord M. did hereupon make application to u« lordship, by his friends, for a reconciliation; who answered them, he would never be reconciled to him; ’ and threatened to imprison him again; and then, if he brought another Habeas Corpus, he would imprison him again and again, and keep him prisoner as long as he lived, and likewise turn him out of all his employments and offices, and dispose of them to others as he pleased; ’ by reason of which threats and menaces, the said Mr. Tayleur was enforced to desert his wife, family, and employments, at the said borough of Windsoi *, and to obscure himself elsewhere, till this present session of parliament, to prevent future illegal imprisonments by the said viscount. — All and every of which proceedings are contrary to the Great Charter, and other laws and statutes of this realm, and the rights and liberties of all the Commons and Freemen of England; and of dangerous consequence and example, if unredressed. And the said commons by protestation, saving to themselves the liberty of exhibiting at any time hereafter any other Accusation or Impeachment against the said viscount, and also of replying to the An- ' swer to the said Articles, or any of them, or of offering proof of the premises, or any other Impeachment or Accusations that shall be exhibited by them, as the case shall (according to the course of parliaments) require, do pray, That the said viscount M. may be called to answer the said several Crimes and Misdemeanors, and receive such condign punishment as the same shall deserve; and that such further proceedings may he upon every of them had and used against him as is agreeable to law and justice.’ ' Lord Mordaunt's Answer to the said Articles.] Jan. 17. The lord Mordaunt gave the house humble thanks, for giving him so long time to advise for the putting in his Answer to the Impeachment of the house of commons against him; and, in obedience to their lordships command, now presented his Answer in writing, with a desire that the same may be communicated to the House of Commons. Then the said Answer was read as followeth: The Humble Answer, of John lord vise. Mordaunt, constable of his majesty’s Castle and Honour of Windsor, to certain Articles of Impeachment, exhibited, against him by the Commons assembled in Parliament, for several High Crimes and Misdemeanors supposed to be committed by him. M The lord vise. Mordaunt, not being conscious to himself of any malice or purpose of evil to any man alive, ’ nor having had other displeasure against Wm. Tayleur, in the said Articles named, than what arose from his insolent and provoking deportment towards hi* majesty, in disobeying his warrants and his lordship in the execution of his office (under whose immediate government he is by the offices he holds in Windsor Castle ), and from the variety of complaints which have been reiterated to his ldp. by the country against him for his oppression in those offices, and ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s loyal parliament." The King's Speech, on passing the Poll After passing the said Bill, his majesty made the following Speech: " My Lords and Gentlemen; I have now passed your Bills; and I wras in good hope to have had other bills ready to pass too. I cannot forget, that within few days after your coming together in Sept, both houses presented me with their Vote and Declaration, that they-would give me a Supply proportionable to my occasions: and the confidence of this made the anticipate that small part of my Revenue which was unanticipated for the payment of the seamen:and my credit hath gone farther than I had reason to think it would; but it is now at an end.- — This is the first day I have heard j of any money towards a Supply, being the 18th i of Jan. and what this will amount to, God knows; and what time I have to make such Sarations as are necessary to iiuct three enemies ns I have, you can well enough |judge: and 1 must tell you, what discourses j soever are abroad, I am not in any treaty; I but, by the grace of God, 1 will not give over j myself and you, butwill do what is in my power I for the defence of myself and you. It is high 1 time for you to make good your promise; and 357] PARL. HISTORY, 18 Charles II. 1666. — Speech the. King. [358 it is high time for you to be in the country, as I well for the raising of money, as that the lords I lieutenants and deputy lieutenants may watch those seditious spiiits which are at work to disturb the public peace; and therefore I am resolved to put an end to this session on Monday next come seven night, before which time, I pray, let all things be made ready that I am to dispatch. I am not willing to complain yo'u have dealt unkindly with me in a Bill I have now passed, in which you have manifested a greater distrust of me than I have deserved. I do not pretend to be without infirmities: but I have never broken my word w ith you; and, if I do not flatter myself, the nation never had less cause to complain of grievances, or the least injustice or oppressiou, than it hath had in these 7 years it hath pleased God to restore me to you. I would be used accordingly/' Notwithstanding this intimidating speech, the commons proceeded with the affairs before them; especially the Impeachment of lord Mordaunt, which had likewise given his majesty some offence. Serj. Maynard, sir R. Atkins, Mr. Wm. Prynne, tkc. were appointed to manage the evidence at the hearing: and on the 26th of Jan. read the Articles before the bouse of lords:but with dissatisfaction observed, that, during the reading of them, the lord Mordaunt was within the bar of the house. Of this the commons complained, and moved, * That, according to former precedents in such proceedings, his Idp. might stand without the bar of the house/ And when one appeared as council for him, was beginning to plead in this matter, they thought fit to interrupt him, acquainting the peers, ‘ That his Idp. ought not to have any council assigned him to plead for him in matter of fact upon the Impeachment/ This caused a conference, and, indeed, a diflerence between the two houses.: The lords insisted upon their rights and privileges, and on the 4th of Feb. confirmed their Order for the lord Mordaunt’s sitting within the bar at his trial, produced two precedents for it, and declared themselves ready for the trial the next morning. The commons upon this w ere still more dis-satisfied, and desired a free conference; in which matters were carried so high, that the lords declared, 1 That they desired this conference to Preserve a right understanding between both ouses; but insisted upon it, that they might deny a free conference with the commons, citing a precedent, 12th Jac. where a free conference was denied the commons in point of one imposition; and that in point of judicature (which the lords insisted on to be only in the king and themselves) they might deny the commons a free conference. The Speaker’s Speech to the King at the bation.] Feb. 8. B ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ve made, and to dcleiul our several countries against all designs to disturb the peace of the nation. And we beseech Almighty God, who hath hitherto wonderfully preserved your majesty’s person, and made you glorious in all your achievements, still to prosper your forces both at sea and land, till he hath made your maj. an asylum for all your friends, and a terror to your enemies both at home and abroad. ’ The Kind's Speech at the .] After passing the said Bills his majesty made the following Speech; " My Lords and Gentlemen; I thank you for tins other bill of Supply which you have given me; and I assure you, the money shall be laid out for the ends it is given. I hope we shall live to have hills of this nature in tiie old stile, with fewer provisos. I looked to have had somewhat offered to me concerning the Accumpts of the Money that hath been already raised since the war; which since you have not done, I will take care (after so much noise) that the same he not stifled, hut will issue out mv commission in the manner I formerly promised the house of peers: and the commissioners shall have very much to answer, if they do not discover all matters of fraud and cozenage. — The season of the year is very far spent, in which our enemies have got great advantages over us; but, by the grace of God, 1 will make all the preparations I can, and as fast ns I can. And yet I must tell you, that if any good overtures be made for an honourable peace, I will not reject them; and I believe all sober men will be glad to see it brought to pass. — I shall uovv prorogue you till towards winter, that you may in your several places intend the peace and security of your several countries, were there are unquiet spirits enough working. And I do pray you, and I do expect it from you, that you will use your utmost endeavours to remove all those false imaginations in the hearts of the people, which the malice of ill men have industriously infused into them, of I know not what jealousies and grievances; for I must tell you again, and I am sure I am in the right, that the people had never so little cause to complain of oppression ami grievances as they have had since my return to you. It the taxes and impositions are heavy upon them, you will put them in mind, that a war with such powerful enemies cannot be maintained without taxes:and 1 am sure that the money raised thereby comes not into my purse. — 1 shall add no more, hut that I promise myselt all good ejects from your nllections and wisdoms, wherc-cver you arc. And I hope we shall meet again of one mind, for mv honour, and the good of 'the kingdom. And now, my lord, privy seal, do as I have directed you." Whereupon the I.ord Privy Seal declared the parliament to he prorogued to the 10th ot October. Principal Occurrences during the iieeess.] The following is a short account of the principal Occurrences which took place during the recess. ‘‘ Charles began to be sensible, that all the ends, for which the war had been undertaken, were likely to prove entirely abortive. The Dutch, even when single, had defended themselves with vigour, and w'ere every day improving in their military skill and preparations. Though their trade had suffered extremely, their extensive credit enabled them to levy great sums; and while the seamen of England loudly complained for want of pay, the Dutch navy was regularly supplied with money and every thing requisite for its subsistence. As two powerful kings now supported them, every place, from the extremity of Norway to the coasts of Bayonne, was become hostile to the English. And Charles, neither fond of action, nor stimulated by any violent ambition, earnestly sought for means of restoring tranquillity to his people, disgusted with a war, which, being joined with the plague and fire, had proved so fruitless and destructive. The first advances towards an accommodation were made by England. When the king sent for the body of sir Wm. Berkeley, he insinuated to the states his desire of peace on reasonable terms; and their answer corresponded in the same amicable intentions. Sol] PARL. HISTORY, 18 Charles II. 1666. — The King’s ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by reason of the Plague and dismal Fire 111 J^ondon, the consideration oi the posture of affairs abroad (besides many other motives obvious unto you ), induced him to embrace the opportunity of concluding a peace. — But you well know, that though the war be at an end, all the effects thereof are not yet ended:it will require time, and your good advice, to remove those obstructions which binders the current of trade, both at home and abroad; and in this particular, his maj. thinks fit to recommend it to vour wisdom, to settle such a balance of Trade betw een his subjects of this kingdom and those of Scotland, as that w e may not be piejudiced, by the import of their commodities hither, nor yet they so discouraged as to leave off trading here, and find out another vent abroad, more dangerous to us. This he finds too hard for him without your assistance, though (upon your recommending it to him) he hath used some endeavours therein. — His maj. formerly promised that you should havean Accompt of the Monies given towards the war, winch his maj. hath commanded his officers to make ready; and since that way of commission (wherein he had put the examination of them) hath been ineffectual, he is willing you should follow your own method, examine them in what way and as strictly as yon please. He doth assure you, he will leave every one concerned to stand or fall, according to his own innocence or guilt. — Ills maj. hath reason to believe, that some disaffected persons (taking advantage of the public necessities) have spread abroad discourses and rumours reflecting upon the government, intending thereby to beget a dissatisfaction in his good subjects. And it is an easy thing to take exceptions, 1 curn neque culpam humana infirmitas, neque calumniana regnandi rlifficultas, evitet.’ But his maj. promises himself, from your good affections, that every one of you, in your several places, will endeavour to preserve a good understanding between him and his people; and if any just grievances shall have happened, his maj. will be as willing and ready to redress them for the future, as you to have them represented unto him. — And his maj. doubts not but you will give healing and moderate counsels, and imprint that known truth into the hearts of his subjects, that there is no distinct interest between the king and his people; but the good of the one is the good of both." Address of both Houses to the King.~\ Oct. 15. Immediately after, the house of commons took 369] PARL. HISTORY, 1$ Charles II. into consideration what had been said to them, and resolved upon an Address of thanks to his majesty, in which they desired and obtained the concurrence of the lords. Accordingly, this day the two houses in a body, with their Speakers, attended the king in the Banqueting House at Whitehall; where the Lord Keeper, as Speaker of the house of peers, in the name of both houses, repeated this following Address to his majesty: "We your majesty's loyal and faithful subjects, the lords and commons in parliament assembled, having taken into our serious consideration your majesty's gracious Speech, wherein you were pleased to let us know, that your majesty thought fit to prorogue this parliament till the 10th of Oct. that you might give yourself time to do something which would not be unwelcome, but a foundation for a greater coufidence between your majesty and your people; we find ourselves bound in duty to return your majesty our humble and hearty Thanks for the gracious Declaration of your royal intentions in that your majesty’s gracious Speech, and in that delivered by your majesty’s command by the Lord Keeper. And particularly, ‘ that your majesty hath been pleaded to disband the late raised Forces; and to dismiss the Papists from out your guards, and other military employments: for your maj.’s care in quickening the execution of the Act for restraining the Importation of foreign cattle: for causing the Canary Patent to be surrendered and vacated: and, more especi ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Praemunire (legal term) MATCH TEXT: 'praemunire' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- st thing that was heard of on that occasion. The prince took notice of his g; eat age, and said that he had outlived all the men of the law of his lime, lie answered, he had like to have outlived the law itself, if his highness bad not come over. 373] PARL. HISTORY, 19 Charles II. 1667- — Impeachment of Lord Clarendon. [SJ4 he should supply il, he replied, 4 That if the parliament was refractory and would not, you stand loosed and absolved from rules of government; you have an array in Ireland which you may employ to reduce them/ Then there was a debate, Whether they should accuse him of Treason. And, Sir Edw. Herbert (the Attorney) said, if you are persuaded the truth is, as is pretended, you may, and so it was; but when the close committee had examined the business, they moved the house, that some lawyers might be added to them, and had they gone, when they said they were ready, they had not touched one hair of Strafford’s head. Then it was considered what was fit to be done:To accuse him of Treason would be a dangerous precedent, as if out of many other crimes a Treason could be drawn, thereupon it was Resolved not to demand judgment from the lords, because sooie Articles were not Treason. Then it vvas propounded not to state what his offences were, lest it should give advantage to inferior courts so to proceed; but said he deserved to he accused of Treason, and in conclusion a proviso was added, not to make that case a precedent. For the bishop of Canterbury, the Articles were general, and he was long in Cn without any proceeding against him; tfter long time he demurred, then new Articles were framed, on which he died. Mr. John Vaughan.* You have had a charge opened of a strange nature, and I know not what part of it can be proved, but the reputation of this hpuse is at stake, and of the king too; fur, where a Charge is brought in by some of your members, whereof one Article is, That be should say such words of the king, ns by a statute made by you is a praemunire, and to give council to levy war upon the kingdom; is it agreeable to our duty to the king ana kingdom to let it die ? For the person concerned, I know not which way his honour can be whole without his giving an Answer to his Charge; for mark the consequence, if the king should take him to favour again, before cleared, will not the world say, a person is received to favour again who gave the king council against the kingdom, and traduced the king, and how can he be whole in his honour this way; Obj. But it will be said, we roust have ground to put him to Answer. Ana. Whether you have ground enough to prove I know not, but you have ground enough to niake him Answer to clear himself. Suppose those two Articles had been charged on a member of this house, what would it have become that member to do; should he sit still and say, 41 will make no Answer, but see whether the bouse will make more proof; * if he should do so, the not making an Answer is nason enough to charge him. I can give you ^stances of persons charged in parliament, *bo, though not nominated, yet being (as it were) pointed at, petitioned that they might * Afterwards Chief Justice of the Common Fleas. Answer, and so would any man; but when this is bruited up and down, will not the world say. You never ask the party whether guilty ? — The Duke of Suffolk was charged upon common fame, and if that were a ground for a charge then (which I do not say it was) so it is in this case: but he moved that he might be heard, and though it was desired he might be committed, yet it was justly rejected till he had answered:then for the nature of the Charge, if it be true, it is very high, but whether it be Treason is another matter, it is brought to you under no name, when you make the charge, it becomes you to say what it is; therefore choose a Committee to reduce the accusation into Heads, and bring them to you, without which you cannot right yourselves, nor him, if innocent. — For the way of it, it cannot be though ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- own argument. — For the manner then, consider how you should proceed if it were out of parliament, and how the bringing of it into the house . alters it. If it were out of parliament, without doubt the accusation should be proved before band, and those who discover it are guilty of felony. This provides for the subject, that the witnesses must be two, and for the king, that none shall discover the evidence. — But suppose the Charge be for misdemeanors, the trial then is not to be by the lords, but by the . commons; for the lords arc his peers only in p&se3 capital. How then cloth the bringing it into parliament alter the case ? If the parliament set aside laws in this case, we should "be happy to see law declaring what is the power of parliaments. There is no precedent produced wJiich is singly of weight to guide you, therefore if you proceed, let it be as near as possible by the good old laws; namely, That there he an Accusation founded upon an oath • f< finch was a man of probity, and well versed in the laws. He was long much admired for his eloquence; but it was laboured and affected." Burnet. 166/. — Proceedings relative to the [376 and the evidence kept secret, I propose that way for the very reason that others oppose it, viz! The Accusation goes over the kingdom, and it will bring dishonour to the house, the king, and the earl; fur the honour of the house, it will be hard to say, the Charge was brought in upon misinformation; a person accused for advising to bring in arbitrary government, &c. And for saying the king is not fit to govern; if this be true, though it be not treason in the formality of the law, it deserves no less punishment then if it were; but if not found guilty, consider the case. If one say, A. killed a man and it is not so, must not he give reparation ? We have an accusation upon hear-sny, but if it be not made good, the blackest scandal which hell can invent, lies at our door — Then sir Tho. Meares moving to refer it to the Committee of Grievances, Mr. Vaughan. You should have put the first question before another had been moved, the earl of Middlesex (Cranfield’s Case) will not bold parallel; he was accused of bribery, which might be proved by their own books, but this is for scandalizing the king, &c. And where shall the committee of grievances enquire about it ? You say let them hear the persons. But suppose they be of the lords house, can you send for them ? Or if you do, will they come and say it ? The matter of this accusation is such, that if it lies in the knowledge <>f a single person, if he delivers it extraju-dicinlly (which he doth, if not upon oath) he may be undone by it, and hazard his person too: at the committee of grievances the persons must be known, and what they can say, and then we may conclude what will fellow; besides, their quality may be such as they cannot be brought, or their discretion such as they will not answer. Sir lid. Temple. Tell but the lords that a roan in public place hath misbehaved himself, and they will sentence him, if he purge not himself; never yet were witnesses examined before the trial in case of treason or felony, for then, if there be two witnesses, a way may be found by poison, or some other way, to take away one. Let not this son of Zeruiah be too strong for king and parliament. Mr. Marvell* would have the faults bunt the • " This was the famous Andrew Marvell, who was representative for the town of Kingston upon Hull. lie discharged this trust with strict integrity and fidelity; and was highly esteemed by his constituents, to whom he constantly scut a particular account of every pro- ceeding in the house, with his own opinion thereupon:a conduct so diligently respectful, together with his general obliging deportment towards them, did not fail to endear him perfectly to their affection; and they were not wanting on their side to testify their grateful sense of it, by allowing him an honourable pension the whole time he represented thenB.w Marvell’s Life, prefixed to his works, p. 9, 10. He died in 1678. See Note to p. 106 * 377] PARL. HISTORY, 19 Chablis II. 1667. — Impeachment of Lord Clarendon. [378 persons: would not bnve a sudden impeachment by reason of the greatness of the person or danger of escape, lord Clarendon not being likely to ride away post. Sir Tho. Clifford.*It will make an end of all impeachments here, to have witnesses examined. Seij. Maynard. No man oan do what is just, but he must have what is true before him; where life is concerned you ought to have a moral certainty of the thing, and every one be able to say upon this proof In my conscience this man is guilty/ Common fame is no ground to accuse a man where matter of fac ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- this nature be not allowed, we have no way left of impeaching a great person. JNl.de la Pole so charged, and lord chancellor, who then governed all, and probably in the fault then. Sir Henry North says, the amends he can make for any impertinency is not to hold them long. Understands the charge upon common fame only. Being without evidence, moves to have the articles argued head by head, what they amount unto. Sir Rob. Atkins. We have things at the third hand; persons without doors say they know it by information. Urge9 the shame of accusing an innocent person; and credulous persons will retain some of the accusations, though false. Sir W. Loicther. In parliament* 1 Car. common fame was a good ground of proceeding in any accusation from the house of commons. Resolved then upon the question in Dr. Turner's lose against the duke of Buckingham. Sir Tho. Strickland. Lord Strafford com- plained of nothing done before his trial, but at his trial, and put it home to the lords as their own case in accumulative treason. The hardship he rejects, but the easy one in proceeding he would have. Never knew a child named before born, and so would not have the impeachment. Mr. Waller*. The door was locked in the debate of lord Strafford's and the abp. of Canterbury’s case. The reason, because of the greatness of the men. The king might dissolve the parliament before the impeachment. * 44 Waller was tire delight of the house: And even at 80 he said the liveliest things of any among them. He was only concerned to say that which should make him be applauded. He deserves the character of being one of the Sir R. Temple. In several impeachments no witness but from impeachments without doors. Grand juries present upon their own knowledge, and if the fact known by any, bound to present. M. de la Pole was impeached for common fame. When voted impeached, then time to inform a committee for accusations. Sir Jvhn Holland. In lord Strafford's case information was to the committee of grievances by sir John Clotworthy — He moves for particular charge before impeached — Torches a-far off make a greater 6haw than near at hand. From lord Bacon. Sir Ch. Wheeler. Charges him with countenancing the Non-conformists. He charges the clergy with drunkenness in the proclamation, forgetting gluttony, himself so guilty of, be made many a poor gentleman believe at Paris, that he came from his Embassy in Spain, full of money — he sent prince Rupert into Germany — engrosses all money and counsels — corresponds with Cromwell, and had money from him — oppressed the duke of York, till his alliance with his daughter. The question being then put, that the Heads of the Accusation be referred to a committee to take the proofs, and report; it passed in the negative 194 to 128. The house then proceeded on the Heads of the Accusation. Nov. 7. The house resumed the farther consideration of the Heads of the Accusation delivered in against the earl of Clarendon. Sir Tho. Osborve*. The king ready to change his religion ! — no money roinaining — no person in employment, but who can buy it — we are upon our last legs — no one man ever had more employments — threatens any man that gave advice — no vessel to swim without his baud nt the rudder — no mouey issued out of the treasury without his approbation. — Sir Wm. Coventry brought orders out of the chancellor's closet; when the king was with him — if any other men had the thoughts, they had not the power — he has no pique against him, but as he is one of the 400 + (of the house of commons) thought by the chancellor useless and inconsiderable. The First Article read. — Sir Rob. Howard great refiners of our language, and poetry:He was for near 60 years one of the best of our writers that way." Burnet. * Sir Tho. Oslxirne was a very plausable Speaker, but too copious, and could not easily make an end of his discourse. He had been always among the high cavaliers, and missing preferment, he had opposed the court much, and was one of lo ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hey absolutely denied the newest precedent to be the best. Antiquity was always venerable; laws, and old precedents, with a constant course of them, were most to be esteemed. They had both for them in this controversy. The lords gave these further* Reasons in Answer to the commons, and to shew why they ought not upon every general accusation of treason by the commons to commit to custody the person or persons accused: That there could be no precedent of commitment produced upon a general accusation of treason before the earl of Strafford’s case; which must necessarily have beeo, to make it the course of parliament The last drops of a river make not a stream or course, but the constant current. So a new precedent, but of yesterday •s it were, and within the sad memory of us all, could not be called the course of parliament. It seems contrary to natural justice and reason, that a person accused should be punished before be knows his crime; and though the imprisonment may be said to be for custody, yet there is no person that knows not his fault, but takes it for a punishment; and it is really so, if he corao after to be acquitted. It is not suitable to the dignity or trust of judges in inferior courts, much less in parliament, the highest court, that they should be kept ignorant of the crimes, whilst they are pressed to commit to prison upon a general mention of them, or that the prosecutors should conceal what they know from the judges, or have ground to ask what they will, and not let the judges have ground to proceed upon. If the lords ought to commit upon the commons impeachment, they seem rather to be executors of process or orders, than judges; which ever implies a power to consider, and do as they shall be satisfied in judgment. The precedents are contrary; as 14 £. 2. M. 7. abp. of Arundell’s case, SI R. 2. the lord Stanley’s case, 38 H. 6.; and W. de la Pole duke of Suffolk’s case; as the commons them* selves, in the argument at the free conference upon the Petition of Right, by sir Edw. Cooke, acknowledged, and urged strongly, as being in the very point; This was 28 H. 6. No. 1G, &c. Such a course of proceeding would not leave it in the pow er of the house of peers to Sreserve Magna Cliarta and the Petition of light (which favour liberty) from invasion; and herein the lords insist not only for themselves, but for all the commons. Though this be a house of commons excellently composed; yet the admitting this claim of theirs just or warrantable, if ever there should be a bouse of commons ill disposed or engaged in faction, as such have been, they might by pretence thereof make dangerous inroads upon the justice and ancient government of the kingdom, terrify and discompose the highest judicature, and invade that freedom which ought to be in parliament, and indeed bring the house of lords to as small a number as they please to leave uoaccused. Judges in inferior courts may bail for treason Specified; h majorc, may the house of lords refuse to commit till specification, or bail after., There are no real mischiefs or inconveniences the other wajr, but many appear by committing before the judges be satisfied in the crimes. The practice of all judges and justices, in favour of liberty, and to prevent oppression, is to examine upon oath the particular crimes before commitment, that thegroundinav appear to them for commitment, or else they are of duty to bail where the offence is bailable, though the accusation may be laid to be treason? much more should the parliament be careful herein, who gives examples and precedents of justice to all other courts. If the king and his counsel are not to imprison without specia/ crime, as the commons now argue, and did so before in the conference for the Petition of Right, to which the lords agreed, and yet the king is ‘caput parliament; ’ whence comes this power of the house of commons by vote so enforce a commitment? And how dangerous is it to the subject! The Petition of Right having concluded, That no man ought to be imprisoned or detained without being charged with something to which they might make answer according to law; how will it stand with that to commit upon generals, to which no mao can make answer or defend himself? There were no new Reasons offered by the commons; and therefore the lords told them, That having considered of those they had given, and overruled them, after a rule twice 591] PARL. HISTORY, 19 Charles II. l66’7. — Proceedings relative to the [392 given by the highest court, it is not to he disputed but the parties must submit; or, as they resolved last session, there could be no proceedings or dispatch in causes. At this conference, Mr. Vaughan said, The commons do think the judicature so well and safely lodged in the lords, that the commons do not wish any part of it. The commons would not agree, that the case of Win. de la Pole was upon the Impeachment of the commons; and said, That the case of abp. Arundell was repealed 1 H. IV. Rut the first the lords evinced clearly, by the record which was present; and the repeal of Arundell’s case did not weaken, but strengthen it as a precedent in this case, being in the repeal it was in the least impeached in the point the lords vouched it for. And thechiefgroundofnot repealing the acts of that parliament was, for the hard measure it shewed to the house of York, for maintenance of whose title the- said archbishop was a chief instrument. Some members of the house of commons urged their former third Reason before, That if, before securing the person, the special matter of treason should be alledged, it would be a ready course that all complices in the Treason might make their .escape, or quicken the execution of the treason intended, to secure themselves the better thereby. To which the lords made Answer, That it would be very hard with the subject, if they should be committed when neither the judge nor the accuser did know the crime; and if, in this case, the house of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- itia is now as burthensome to the 50/. man in the country, almost as all other taxes, and the lords have gotten this advantage on us, that they touch not the burthen of it with their finger: so in the time of the Plague, the commons must be shut up, but not they; insomuch that a good act provided to that purpose passed not. We impeached the lord Mordaunt, and could not bring him to the bar, though formerly I have known an earl and a lord brought thithdr; you desired a free conference about it, but could not obtain one to this day. Rome was at first modest, and only meddled with spirituals, but afterwards concerned themselves so much with other matters, that every thing was made to he ‘ in ordine ad spiritualiu, ’ and many kingdoms thereupon broke from them. The lords now insist upon one thing, because they say it is in order to their judicature; perhaps hereafter they will tell us we must come to them on our knees, because it is in order to their judgment. Consider therefore whether there be any hope of giving them satisfaction. Mr. Vaughan was long about precedents and law, upon the latter of which the lords had insisted; and he said, That in the free conference there was much discourse about the Great Charter, and of the Statute of the 28th Edw. 3. but not applied:so that I thought law in a lord’s mouth was like a sword in a lady’s hand; the sword might be there, but when it comes to cut, it would be aukward and useless. The conclusion must be, that no impeachment by the commons must go on^ unless it be by presentment; and so there is an end of all that for which the parliament is principally called; unless we are part of‘those 400 contemptible ones, who are only fit to give moneythat may be reserved for us, but nothing else. Mr. Coleman argued in favour of the lords:The lords say, that committing upon a general Impeachment was against law, and he thought would appear so: he denied not, but a mittimus without special cause might be legal, and grounded upon the Petition of Right; the reason of which was to secure men against commitment by a special warrant, and a judge ought not to discharge where treason was alleged:but in this case it was different, the judges could not discharge a man committed after examination, but the lords ought not to commit a man, except there were particular treason. That if he came before a justice of peace, and said, I accuse this dnan of treason, would any wise man commit him ? He made his warrant indeed, but he that accused must go farther, and make it more particular, and the special matter must appear before he commits; and this was the present case. The" common law was, That no man ought to be committed without particular cause; because no man could commit in capital matters, without taking examination before-hand, otherwise no man could justify a commitment; therefore he was not satisfied, that the lords had not reason to deny it. That the commons were in the nature of a grand jury to present, but the lords were the judges: that commitment was not the judgment, but in order to it; and the lords had a discretionary power in the 393] PARL. HISTORY, 19 Csahles II. 1667* — Impeachment of Lord Clarendon. [394 case: they said not that they would not commit, bat that they were not satisfied to do it without special matter, therefore the commons ought to send it up. — After a long debate, the house came to this Resolution, " That the Lords having not complied with the desires of the commons for the commitment of the earl of Clarendon, and sequestering him from parliament, upon the Impeachment from that house, is an obstruction to the public justice of the kingdom, and a precedent of evil and dangerous consequence." They appointed a committee to draw up a Declaration to vindicate their proceedings. The Earl of Clarendon, and a remarkable Apology/.] About this time the earl of Clarendon thought proper to withdraw, and having left an Apology for his conduct, addressed to the lords, that house, upon receiving thi ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rants, which would have been profitable to those who procured them; and many whereof, upon my representation to his majesty, were for ever stopt; which naturally have raised many enemies to me: and my frequent concurring, upon the desires of the late Lord Treasurer (with whom 1 had the honour to have a long and a fast friendship, to his death) in representing several excesses and exorbitances, the yearly issue so far exceeding the Revenue, provoked in many persons concerned, of great power and credit, to do me all the ill offices they could. And yet I may faithfully say, that I never meddled with any part of the Revenue, or the administration of it, but when I was desired by the late lord treasurer to give him my assistance and advice (having had the honour formerly to serve the crown, as chancellor of the exchequer); which was, for the most part, in his majesty's presence. Nor have I ever been, in the least degree, concerned, in point of profit, in the letting any part of his majesty's revenue; nor have ever treated or debated it, but in has majesty's presence; in which my opinion concurred always with the major of the crauaseHors, who were present. — All which, upon examination, will be made manifest to yoor lordships, how much soever my iotregity Masted by the malice of those, who, I am confident, do not believe themselves: nor have I, in my life, upon all the Treaties, or other* wise, received the value of one shilling from all die kings and princes in the world (except the Books of the Juravre print, sent me by the chancellor of France, by that king's direction) hut from my own master, to whose entire service, and to the good and welfare of my coun-do man's heart was ever more devoted. — being my "present condition, I do most hsaddy beseech your lordships to retain a favourable opinion of me, and to believe me ia-aoesnt from those foul aspersions, until the contrary shall be proved; which, I am sore, can never be by nnj men, worthy to be behaved. And since the distempers of the times and the differences between the two houses in the present debate, with 'the power and malice of my enemies, who give out, that they shall prevail with his majesty to prorogue or dissolve this parliament in displeasure, and threaten to expose me to the rage and fury of the people, may make me looked upon as the cause which obstructs the king’s service, and the unity and peace of the kingdom; 1 most humbly beseech your lordships, that I may not forfeit your lordships favour and protection, by withdrawing myself from so powerful a prosecution, in hope that 1 may be able, by such withdrawing, hereafter to appear, and make ray defence, when his majesty's justice, to which 1 shall always submit, may not be obstructed or controuled by the power and malice of those, who have sworn my destruction. Clarekdon." When the earl's Apology was read by the commons, it occasioned a new turn, and anew warmth in the debates of that bouse. Mr. Vaughan among other things said, It is the first time that ever I heard an innocent man run away under the greatest charge, with hopes to return again and vindicate himself. Mark one expression; he says, he is as far from corruption, as he is from disloyalty: if he had said he was guilty of neither, he had said something, but by that expression he may be guilty of both. So insolent a paper I never met with in this kingdom, nor have I ever heard the like in any other: so inconsiderable a part of the nation as he is, to lay it upon the nation, who, if innocent, might defend himself; if guilty, why does he charge the nation with persecuting ? Therefore, without troubling ourselves with it, do as the lords have done, who, delivered it to us as a scandalous and seditious Paper; it has malice in it, and is the greatest reproach upon the king and the whole nation, that ever was given by man.' — Therefore, in conclusion he put the question. Whether the Paper should be voted scandalous and malicious, and a reproach to the justice of the na ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ded from the house in the usual manner and form, as the Journal Book doth shew, enter and record my Protes-2 D 405] PARL. HISTORY, 19 Charles II. 1667. — Narrative[404 ration and dissent as follows: 1. That with- out having ever been in prison, or imprisonment appointed, or any legal charge brought, it seems unjust to punish the earl of Clarendon for only withdrawing himself; it not being at all certain to the house, that he is gtfne out of the kingdom; and if it were known to the lords that he were fled beyond the seas, though the fault would be very great in a person who hath lately been in such trust, yet perpetual exile, and being forever disabled from bearing any office, and the penalties in the Bill, seem too severe a censure. 2. That it may, perhaps, give some occasion for the scandal to have it believed, that the house of commons, and others, by standing so long upon pretence of a privilege to require commitment before special matter of treason assigned, were in doubt, that no proof of treason could be made out against the party accused; and that they had therefore designed, through terror, to make him fly and fear, lest he should yet return to be tried, in case they should bring in special matter of treason, as they ought to do, whensoever they accuse. 3. That by this Bill, power being taken from the king to pardon, it appeareth to be a great entrenchment upon his majesty's royal prerogative. 4. That there can be no such case, as have been pretended, erer to cause a necessity in the bouse of commons not to acquaint the lords with the particulars openly made known to them, by which they were first satisfied to find ground to accuse. 5. That the commons, so far judging any article to be treason, ns to insist upon commitment, without imparting the particulars to the lords, do seem therein to usurp that first part of judicature from the lords, who are the highest court of justice in the kingdom. 6. That to require such commitment seems to be contrary to the Petition of Right and Magna Charta, and the rights not only of the peers and great persons of this kingdom, but the birth right even of the meanest subjects; and therefore those proceedings not having been according to law and the ancient rules of parliament, hath given opportunity to the earl of C. to absent nimself. 7. The commitment upon a general Impeachment hath been heretofore, and may be again, of most evil and dangerous consequence; and as is conceived, the lords have yet no way for them so well to justify their fair and upright proceedings in the earl of Clarendon's business, and the true regard that they have had herein to the king and kingdom, as to decline this Bill of Banishment, and to expect a particular accusation of the said earl; and thereupon according to law and justice to appoint lum a day for appearance, which if he observe not, without farther process, sentence might lawfully be pronounced against him. Strafford." " We having this day given onr negatives to the passing of a Bill tor banishing and disenabling the earl Clarendon; and having asked leave of the house to enter our Dissents, to the end that it may appear to posterity that we did not give our consents to that Bill, we do now take liberty to enter our Dissents, by subscribing our names. Berkeley of Berkeley, Holies, Ro. Lexington, T. Culpeper." Dec. 19. The king by commission passed the above and four other hills. Immediately after, Mr. Secretary Morrice delivered this Message from the king to the house of commons; "His majesty having by a former Message acquainted you, that he intended an Adjournment to the beginning of Feh.; he doth now conceive, that Thursday the 6th of Felr. is a convenient day to which such an Adjournment may be made: and his majesty is willing to adjourn to that time." Accordingly, the Parliament broke up, after it had sat a little above two months, and without any prorogation had now a recess of above seven weeks. [The King's Speech to both Houses.] Feb. 10, 1667-8. — Both ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ng, and if no other thing than reducing 415] PARL. HISTORY, 19 Charles things to the first four General Councils, be the case, would have a committee appointed by us and the lords, to consult with both houses of Convocation, and hopes by that to bring in many Papists also. Sir T. Littleton. Let us do what is fit for ourselves to do; and if we do what is rea-aonble, and that gives them not satisfaction, it rests not at our door — The kingdom of Poland has the greatest toleration in the world, and no standing army, but upon occasion of war — Their militia is their only standing army, which is made up of all opinions, and they have never had any wars upon religious accounts; and in their civil wars upon temporal affairs, persons of all opinions have mixed — Barnevelt, in Holland, only offered at a disturbance, and was taken off- — The only party there was Arminian, which he could wish was not so much received amongst our clergy — Predestination and free-will, in our 39 Articles, haye occasioned all our disputes in the Church of England — The Calvinist way has a loop-hole to let Arroininnism into our articles — All along queen Eliz.’s, king James’s, and king Charles’s time, whenever any of these points were disputed, at degree of doctor, all the points were regulated- by the Convocation, and then the current of the Church of England ran the Calvinist way — Besides at the syuud of Dort — So long as the Church was true to itself, the Nonconformist never hurt the Church; but as soon as innovation and alteration came in by the churchmen, and they favourites with the crownv the Church declined — In Ceremonies we have much alteration; the Communiontable set Altar-manner, whereas it ought to be in the body of the Church, that the guests might come to the table, and the second service might be the better heard — No canon for the bowing at tlje altar, or, if any, quite laid aside — Now, if new ceremonies have been made, besides putting the tapers (on the Communion-table,) if private persons have dared to intrude these things against law, what will be the end ? and none but such as w ill comply with this innovation shall have any preferment; and as this way has once ruined the Church, he hopes the parliament will not countenance the doing of it again — King Edw. and queen Eliz. prepared all things before they catne to the parliament — Would have the king applied to, to give us some subject-matter to worjt upon. Sir John Cotton. The Presbyterian tenets are most destructive to our government. — * That the king is but minister Bonoruin‘ he is greatet1 than any one man, but less than the people:’ Salus populi suprema lex, ’ and many more such. Sir John Birkenhead. Theodosius, the emperor, so enjoined the sanctions of the councils, tbut no man, unconformable to them, could administer the sacraments — Socinus’s opinions crept into the sects of Poland, which made the Cossacks always enquire, when they made any inroads, what the sectaries did — II. l667*8. — Debate on Religion. [4l6 Religion in Holland is subservient to trade — They reproved Mr. Price, the English minister, and sent him away, for preaching against their Sunday markets. — Queen Elizabeth’s council advised her to keep Edw. 6th’s liturgy, in which she made little alteration, and enjoined conformity; and king Janies in his acts of jndem-nity, excepts Nonconformists — Queen Eliz. would never suffer Nonconformity, though the earl of Essex would have given security for the peaceableness of the persons — King James let them have a conference at Hampton Court; he would abate nothing:at last Dr. Reynolds came in and conformed — Queen Eliz. was favourable to Papists, but made severe laws against priests; and when the people had no mass they came to Church — The Articles of the Church of England were drawn so, that both parties might subscribe — The convocation was a very mixed assembly of both persuasions — No canou nor sanction enjoins bowing at the altar — Bishop Morton never did it; it is left at ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Criminall (old spelling) ['criminall']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e; that I should presently be called in again, and if I did not then submit myself, and own my fault I must expect the indignation of the house of peers to fall upon me. And being called iu again the second time, it was demanded, What further had I to suy for myself, before judgment should pass against me. When repeating my former discourse, adding, That I had no design to create any difference between the two houses, hut to preserve the Company’s estate:yet if I had offended their lordships, I humbly begged their pardon. Being then commanded to withdraw again, I was afterwards called in:and, being upon my knees, sentence was pronounced against me, to pay 300/. Hue to his majesty, and to lie iu custody of the hlnck-rod till the money was paid. And accordingly, sir John Eyton, usher of the black-rod, kept me in his custody till the 10th of Aug. following, when, at 9 at night, he came to me and said, sir Samuel, I am come to discharge you from your imprisonment, and you may go when, and where you please. I then demanded how this unexpected relcasement came to pass, and to whom I was beholden for the same. He replied, You are discharged upon honourable terms, but pray ask me no questions, for I must make you no answer:yet if I see you tomorrow, after the house is adjourned, I will tell you more; there is a mystery, but I have sufficient authority for what I do." 1{^solutionsof the Commons thereupon.] Upon hearing of this, the house fell into a warm debate about some expedients for settling the Difference in point of Privilege and Jurisdiction of the two houses, which could not be ended that night; and after that they resolved to bring in a Bill for that purpose. This appeared to be a matter of too great nicety and difficulty to he effected in a short time. However, after conferences with the house of lords, they came to these Resolutions. " I. That it is an inherent right of every commoner of England to prepare and present Petitions to the house of commons in case of grievance, and the house of commons to receive the same:in evidence whereof, it is one of the first works that is done by the commons, to appoint a grand committee to receive Petitions and Informations of Grievances. II. That it is the undoubted right and privilege of the com- 433] PARL. HISTORY, 20 Charles n. l66&.- [434 mons to judge end determine concerning the nature and matter of such Petitions, how far they are fit or unfit to be received; and that in no age they found any person presenting a Grievance by way of Petition to the house of commons, and received by them, that was ever censured by the lords, without complaint by the commons. III. That no court whatsoever hath power to judge or censure any Petition presented to the house of commons, and received by them, unless transmitted from thence, or the matter complained of by them: and that no suitors for justice in any inferior court in law or equity, are therefore punishable criminally, though untrue, or soable by way of action in any other court; but are only subject to a moderate fine or amercement by that court, unless in some cases specially provided by act of parliament, as appeals, or the like. Incase meo should be punishable in other courts for presenting Petitions to the house of commons, it may deter his majesty's subjects from seeking redress of their grievances, and frustrate the principal end for which parliaments were ordained. IV. Whereas a Petition from the East-India Company was presented to the house by sir Samuel Bernardiston and others, complaining of Grievances therein, which the lords have censured under the notion of a Scandalous Paper or Libel: the said censure, and proceeding of the lords against the said sir Samuel, are contrary to, and a subversion of the rights and privileges of the house of commons, and liberties of the commons of England; and further, no Petition, or any matter depending in the house of commons, can be taken notice of by the lords, without breach of privilege, unless permitted by the house of commons. V. That the continuance upon record of the Judgment given by the lords, and complained of by the commons, in the last session of this parliament, in the case ofTho. Skinner and the East-India Company, is prejudicial to the rights of the commons of England." In conclusion they added this further Allegation, " That the house of peers, as well as alt other courts, are in all their judicial proceedings to - be guided and governed by l*w:but if they shall give a wrongful Sentence contrary to law, and the party grieved might °ot seek redress thereof in mil parliament, and for that end repair to the house of com-tuoos, (who are part of the legislative power); that either they may interpose with their lordships for the reversal of such Sentence, or prepare a Bill for that purpose, and for the preventing the like Grievances for the time to come; the consequence thereof would plainly be. That their lordships judicature is boundless and above law, and that the party grieved shall be without remedy." Therefore, as a present Remedy, they resolved upon these two following Propositions to be presented to their lordships: " 1. That the lords be desired to vacate the Judgment against sir Samuel Ber-nardiston, given the last session of this present parliament. 3. That the birds be also desired Vol.1V. to vacate the Judgment against the East*India Company, given by tkein the lust session of this parliament." Proceedings relative to the Impeachment of the Earl of Orrery. Nov. 25. A Petition of Sir Edw. fitzharris, bart, and Philip Alder, gent, against the earl of Orrery* was read, containing in substance, raising of moneys, by his own authority, upon his majesty's subjects; defrauding the king's subjects of their estates. The mopey raised was for bribing hungry courtiers to come to his ends, and if the king would not, he had 50,000 swords to compel him. Mr. Garroway moves to have the point of time asserted when these things were done: if the petitioners had concealed it long, then his majesty was in danger. The Petitioners were then called in, and affirmed the words spoc and things done, since the Act of Indemnity. Colonel Sandys moved it to be taken into consideration; and attributed our misfortunes to moneys so disposed of. Sir R. Carr moves that the treasonable words may be read, and the gentlemen of the long robe may give their judgments what they amount unto. Serj. Maynard, The charge is general, treason and misdemeanor. He thinks the words are treason. 25 Edw. 3d, is the measure of treason. Sir Fr. Goodrick. Words make not a treason, but this is by act 25 Edw. 3d. Mr. Edw.Seymour. We have found that a charge of high treason in the house of commons, is a remedy for the gout. Wonders that the words have been called in question, * reflecting on the duke of Ormond.’ This had nev ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- that speak with the indignation the thing deserves. But because injury has been done us abroad, therefore must we hurt ourselves? Hire some persons to assault some members of this house, and Supply may he hindered at any time: suppose this bill do not pass, must no other business be proceeded upon? Desires other business may not stand still. Sir John Emit/. Nothing will make the people give more chearfully than doing ourselves right in this business; and would sit morning and afternoon till it lie done. Mr. C'he.ncy wonders that a thing of common justice, as this is, should be so obstructed: there was some suspension of justice:the lord chief justice was spoke with, and the secretaries, before justice was done; and some by that means escaped:necessity of the nation is at our doors, to take off that arbitrary power upon us. Mr. Secretary Trevor concurs heartily with what has been done this day; but'this deferring will be thought a jealousy, where he hopes there is none. Mr. Waller has seen a stop in nil business . w Duncombe was a- judicious man, hut, till members have been vindicated, and re-very haughty, and apt to raise enemies against i leased out of prison: has scon the Petition of himself. He was an able parliament-man; j Bight passed before Supply, but no vote passed but could not go into all the designs of the court; for lie bad a sense of religion, and a zeal for the liberty of his country." Burnet. He was at this time a Commissioner of the Ordnance. m it: should it be said that the Supply depends upon passing another bill not in the power of us? When the Greeks and Romans had slaves disfigured and marked, it was a dishonour to the muster; but that a free man, an ambas- 465J PARL. HISTORY, 22 Charles II. lGjO. — Froceedingi on the Covtntry Act. [466 sador of the people, should be thus marked, is much more horrible. These actions have sometimes wrought reformation; sometimes good effects, and sometimes ill, as the government is affected: we got the Petition of Right by discreet handling the business: the business of the Five Members was so ill handled, that great disorder happened: God brings light out of darkness: must give his No to this question. Mr. Attorney Finch. The security of your satisfaction is not the question; what then should be the reason of this addition? He thinks you are satisfying the nation in our resentment:this satisfaction is a higher satisfaction than ever was known: 11 Hen. iv, " Any man assaulting a Member going or coming to parliament, if he render not himself to the king’s Bench in such a time, they would proceed to fine; and if lie do coine, and be found guilty by inquest, by examination, or otherwise, be shall pay his double damages found by the inuuest, or be taxed by the discretion of the judges, and make fine and ransom at the king’s will." Lord Cromwell, *8 Hen. vi, was assaulted in the palace-yard; the offender imprisoned in the Tower for a year: we go about to do more than ever was, or attempted to be, done before: we put, by this vote, a stand to the government: no man can think this question can pass, and all other things stand still: why you should, for an imaginary opinion of the people, set a stop to all things, he knows not. Mr. Vaughan. Persons argue for giving the king money, and yet would hinder it: you must, in nature, have a father, before you can have a son:if we act not with the same liberty and freedom as our ancestors, we trust as a person would an arbitrator that his adversary has a power upon: the people will tell us that we serve the king, not by law, but contrary to law. Col. Titu$. This has been a thing without precedent, and hopes you will prevent it for the future from being so: would not have you revenged upon yourselves. Whatever urgent accidents shall happen, not to be relieved until this Bill pass. Mr. Hen. Coventry. Should be an unnatural man to his relation, and undudful to the bouse, if he did not resent this; and would rather have all his wounds than hinder ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ed their Thanks for this Answer, and the king accordingly issued out his Proclamation; the substance of which was, " Whereas the lords and commons in parliament assembled, have by their Petition presented to his majesty their fears and apprehensions of the Growth of Popery, together with the Causes thereof, and also such Remedies as they conceive most proper to prevent such mischiefs: which Petition his majesty having seriously considered, and with much contentment approving the great care of the said lords and commons, for the preservation of the true Religion established; to which his majesty declares, as he bath always adhered against all temptations whatsoever, so he will still employ his utmost care and zeal in the maintenance and defence of it. And therefore strictly commands all jesuits and Romish priests to depart out of England before the 1st of May, upon pain of having the penalties of the laws of this realm inflicted upon them. And his majesty commands all judges, &c. forthwith to put the laws in execution against all Popish Recusants, and such as are suspected to be so, in order to their speedy conviction, and due process upon such conviction. And because there may be some priests imprisoned in this realm, unknown to his majesty; ail sheriffs, fltc. are within 20 days to advertise some of the lords of the privy-council of their names, and for what cause they were committed, to the end orders may be given for their transportation." After this, the commons proceeded with all vigour upon the king’s Supplies, the Subsidy-Bill, the Excise-Bjll, and the Law-Bill; to which three they afierwards added a fourth bill for Impositions on Foreign Commodities. The great Controversy between the and I Commons concerning the Lords making Amendments to Money Bills.] Two Money-Bills re- j mained to be passed, the one for Impositions j on Proceedings at law, ’ and the other, for an:Additional imposition on several Foreign 1 Commodities; ’ which the merchants esteeming a Grievance, they petitioned the house of lords for relief, who thought their Reasons of such . weight, that they demanded a Conference with the commons upon the case in dispute; and this being complied with, a committee from both houses were appointed. The earl of An-glesea was Speaker for the lords, and sir lle-neage Finch, attorney-general, for the commons. The particulars of the Conference were as follows: First Conference between the Houses t on the Bill for Additional Impositions on Foreign Commodities.] April 17. The earl of Anglesea, and the rest of the lords that managed the Conference with the commons on Saturday last, concerning the Amendments in the bill, intituled, An additional Imposition on several Foreign Commodities, and for the Encouragement of several Commodities and Manufactures of this kingdom/ reported the effect of the said conference: viz. " lie said, Mr. Attorney General was the first man who spake; and told their lordships. That the commons had desired this conference upon the subject-matter of the last conference, which was concerning the Act of Imposition, imitled, ‘ An additional Imposition on seveial Foreign Commodities, ’ &c. He said, in the end of it, your lordships communicated the Form of an Address to his majesty, against the use of, and to discountenance those that do use, foreign manufactures in prejudice of our own; which they chearfully concur in, and humbly thank your lordships for; they differ so much in the rest, that he fears this is the only thing they agree in; but hope for a good agreement in conclusion, the commons having done as much as they can, to narrow the differences. — He said. In several clauses, we had varied the rales, in sums, in the species, and in the time. — They desire nothing that is not the subject-matter may come into debate between us (that is, concerning the right of laying Impositions on the subject in general); the present question being concerning rates and impositions on merchandize only. And in this th ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mistakes: first, that record was not a grant of 40s. upon the sack of wool, as your lordships suppose, but a reducing of 40s. upon a sack, which E. i. took before Magna Charta was confirmed, to half a mark, viz. 6s. per sack; and it was at the prayer of the commons, ns some books say, and cite for it 3 E. i. M. 24. Secondly, the record which your lordships cite is twice printed, once in the 2d part of the Institutes, p. 531, and again in the 4tii part of the Institutes, p. 29; and by both those places it is evident that the concesscrunt’ is to be applied only to the tota conimunitas/ and not to the Magnates / for this was a grant of the commons only, and not a grant of the lords; and, to demonstrate this beyond all possibility of scruple, the printed books do refer us to the Statute of 25 E. i. c. 7, called Confirmationes Chartarum/ wherein it is expressly so declared by act of parliament; for, by the last statute, it appears that the Muletot of 40j. upon a sack was again demanded by E. i. and was therefore now abrogated, saving to the king and his heirs the demi-mark upon a sack of wool granted by the commonalty, which is the very same grant of 3 E. i. cited by your lordships in the present question; but this is also a convincing evidence that those words The lords and commons grant' are words of form, and made use of in such cases where the grant did certainly proceed from the commons alone. And to clear this point yet more fully by a modern precedent, we pray your lordships to take notice of the statute of the 2d and 3d of Ed, vi. c. 3C, where a relief is given to the king by parliament; and the title of the act, as also in the body of it, it is still called all along The grant of the lords and commons yet in 3 & 4 Ed. vi. c. 23, this former act is recited, and there it is acknowledged to be only a grant of the commons. — And as for the case of 9 II. iv. called (1 lie Indemnity of the lords and commons/ these things are evidently proved by it; 1. That it was a grievance to the commons, and a breach to their liberties, for the lords to demand a committee to confer with about aids. 2. That the lords ought to consider by themselves apart. S. That no report should he made to the king of wlmt the commons had granted, and the lords assented to, till the matter be perfected; so that a plain declaration is made, that the commons grant, and the lords assent. 4. That the gift ought to he presented by the Speaker of the commons. The Book Case of 33 H. vi. 17, is the weakest of all; for the words are, Si les coin-m'es grant Tonage p' 4 aim. and s’n'rs grant mes pur deux anns, ceo ne sera reliver aux commoners; mes via versft, si co’ones grant p* 2 ans et s’n'rs p' 4. ceo sera reliver.' Now, 1. This was no opinion of any judge, but only ofKirkby, cl. de parliament. 2. This was a case put by the bye, and not pertinent to the matter in hand. 3. It is impossible to be law, being against the constant practice and usage of parliament; for then your lordships may not only lessen the rates and time, but yon may choose whether you will send us the bill or no back again, with amendment, which was never heard of; and if that may be, why was it not done so now? 4. That clerk says, your lordships may increase impositions too, which part of the case you thought not fit to cite, because you pretend not to it. 5. Brooke, parliament, 7, puts a query upon the case, as it deserved. But if the law books are to be heard in this matter, 30 H. viii. Dyer 43, is a judicial authority, where Subsidy is defined to be, a tax, assess par parliament, et grant al roy par les co’ones durant vyde cliesc. ror, tantmn pour 1c defence des merchants sur le mere.’ — The provisos in the bill of 1 H. viii. which your lordships seem mainly to rely upon, we conceive to he of no force at all, unless it be against your lordships; for, by your lordships Journals, the case was this: the Bill itself did not pass till the 3d of Hen. viii.; and upon the 43d day of parliament, the lorda asse ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t. By virtue of this authority, he issued a Proclamation; suspending the penal laws enacted against all non-conformists or recusants whatsoever: and granting to the protestant dissenters the public exercise of their religion, to the catholics the exercise of it in private houses. A fruitless experiment of this kind, opposed by the parliament, and retracted by the king, had already been made a few years after the Restoration; but Charles expected, that the parliament, when ever it should meet, would now be tamed to greater submission, and would no longer dare to control his measures. Meanwhile, the dis^ senters, the most inveterate enemies of the court, were mollified by these indulgent maxims: and the catholics, under their shelter, enjoyed more liberty than the laws bad hitherto allowed them. — At the same lime the Act of Navigation was suspended by royal will and pleasure:a measure, which though a stretch of prerogative, seemed useful to commerce, while all the seamen were employed on board the ro^al nnvy.A like suspension had been 499] PARL. HISTORY, 24 Charles II. l6r2. — Occurrences during the Recess. [500 granted, during the first Dutch war, and was not much remarked; because men .had, at that time, entertained less jealousy of the crown. A Proclamation was also issued, containing rigorous clauses in favour of pressing:another full of menaces against those who presumed to speak undutitully of his majesty's measures, and even against those who heard such discourse, unless they informed in due time against the offenders:another against importing or vending any sort of painted earthen ware, " except those of China, upon pain of being grievously fined, and suffering the utmost punishment which might be lawfully inflicted upon contemners of his majesty’s royal authority." An army had been levied; and it was found, that discipline could not be enforced without the exercise of martial law, whiih was therefore established by order of council, though contrary to the petition of right. All these acts of power, how little important soever in themselves, savoured strongly of arbitrary government, and were no-wise suitable to that legal administration, which the parliament, after such violent convulsions and civil wars, had hoped to have established in the kingdom. — It may be worth remarking, that the lord-keeper refused to affix the great seal to the Declaration for suspending the Penal Laws; and was for that reason, though under other pretences, removed from his office. Shaftesbury was made chancellor in his place; and thus another member of the Cabal received the reward of his counsels. — Foreign transactions kept pace with these domestic occurrences. An attempt, before the declaration of war, was made on the Dutch Smyrna fleet by sir Robert Holmes. This fleet consisted of 70 sail, valued at a million and a half: and the hopes of seizing so rich a prey had been a great motive for engaging Charles in the present war, and he had considered that Captore as a principal resource for supporting his military enterprises. Holmes, with nine frigates and three yachts, had orders to go on this command; and he passed Sprague in the channel, who was returning with a squadron from a cruize in the Mediterranean. Sprague informed hitn of the near approach of the Hollanders; and had not Holmes, from a desire of engrossing the honour and profit of the enterprize, kept the secret of his orders, the conjunction, of these squadrons had rendered the success infallible. When Holmes approached the Dutch (March 13 ), he put on an amicable appearance, and in\*ited the admiral, Van Ness, who commanded the convoy, to come on board of him:one of his captains gave a like insidious invitation to the rear-admiral. But these officers were on their guard. They bad received an intimation of the hostile intentions of the English, and had already put all the ships of War and merchantmen in an excellent posture of defence. Three times were they valiantly assailed by the English; an ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- osition long before.] " So they were thought the properest to name the sum. Above eighty of the chief of that party had met over night, and had agreed to name 600,000l. But Garroway named 1, 200,000l. and was seconded in it by Lee; so this surprize gained that great sum, which enabled the court to carry on the war. They bad good reward from the court, and yet continued acting on the other side." work, or not work, as they please themselves: Would have alien duties free for native commodities. Mr. Garroway moves to consider the Declaration, that we may the belter remove the ill constructions which other persons put upon it, and keep law and prerogative from interfering, which he hopes will be done with that modesty that becomes us. He is fur from oppressing tender consciences, but would have the thing settled. Mr. Secretary Coventry. The king intends not to violate your laws; but the question is. Whether the king be mistaken in his Declaration, or no ? — The farther debate was adjourned to Feb. 10. Lord Cavendish moves, that the Votes of the house in 1662 and 1663 may be read, and the reasons against Toleration; read; which were accordingly. Sir Tho. Meres, after a silence some time, said, In this affair we are like waters, the deeper thesilenter; it is of great weight: he would have us leave the laws as we find them, to our posterity:in the country, upon the first putting out the Declaration, he has conferred with books, and learned persons in the laws, and finds that a general suspension of the penal statutes is against law; if we are mistaken, let us hear it clearly proved. Mr. Waller. When the state is rightly put, you will find it otherwise: the king says, he will stick to his Declaration, and likewise will not invade our rights and liberties.' Something there was of this at his first being in parliament in king James’s time; the parliament desired him to put the penal laws in execution against Recusants; not a word then of property. They proceeded to the Petition of Right when property was touched: in the business of Ship-Money, they went to the lords to have the judges punished:opinion of this house clear, no prerogative:our ancestors knew that kings can do no wrong, and, for point of safety, the most unbounded monarchy in the world: the king beats his drum for war, when no roan can:Henry vii’s proclamations were heard farther than his guns: has observed formerly too much pressing of penal laws:lord Coke says (who was no great friend to prerogative) that kings have, and ought to nave, power in these things :’ Erapson and Dudley never broke any law, but advised only the setting penal laws on foot; whenever the legal prerogative may supersede:has often heard that the king allows the French churches, for good of trade, as at Venice the Greek churches.* Shall the king dispense for trade, and not for peace ? Because he is an Englishman, must he not have the benefit of the indulgence by the king’s power ? has beard it from lawyers, that no prerogative that is legal can be taken away by inferences of state. No branch of the common law must be taken away but in express words; in conceptis verbis. To "take away flowers of the crown, we bring stones on our heads. The king pardons trai- 519] PARL. HISTORY, 24 Cuables II. 1672-3. — on the Declaration for [520 tors, who are as bad as Dissenters. Armis ornatuin et legibus armatum, ’ says Justin, lie believes that the Dissenters repent of what they have done; but that Dissenters should at every session have all hope taken away, can you imagine greater persecution ? You will find they will affect your rents, and your trade. In this the king innovates nothing; the Church is part of the state, but the state no part of the Church: Theodosius and Constantine made edicts, and he that disputed them., was put into a sack, and thrown into a river: bishops were not as some are now; they were humble and godly men. The ignorant zeal was then as now:the emperors without that power could not keep all quiet. The more supreme power resembles divine, the better it is. God uses menaces as to Nineveh, but docs not always destroy:the Petition of Right shall never be altered:must the king beat his subjects with one hand, and Amsterdam with another? You had no mind to take the king’s power from him; because your vote in the act of Conventicles docs not say so:moves not to strike at a power so near the king, and necessary for the people, and peace. Mr. Poule would comply with the king, to do in a legal way, as now the Declaration does in an illegal:would know the king’s power in temporal laws. lie does conceive, if the king can dispense with all penal laws, he may dispense with all laws, with a non obstante. Special cases may so happen, that cannot be executed, but in others the king cannot dispense, but may pardon the offender. In the great case in the Exchequer now about Wine-Licences, a general suspension of law amounts to an abrogation, which none cau do but parliament. This being so, by the words of the Declaration, 40 acts of parliaments are suspended, some treason, some felony, banishment, mulcts, and the king cannot dispense them. By the Declaration the king intended no imposing upon his Protestant subjects; but it is clearly so upon the judges and justices of the peace, who are sworn to execute the laws:does not this impose jupon causes ecclesiastical and temporal ? You make the king equal in ecclesiastical matters to temporal, and no more. Ecclesiastical matters anciently were committed to such persons os the temporal magistrates: no appeals to Rome, no legate, or nuncio, to come into England, without leave of the king: when the Pope and Hen. viii, differed, he resumed his ancient right, by being declared supreme head of the Church, in the convocation, by instrument, which was nothing but the ancient common law restored, which was clearly expressed:1. Eliz. all causes ecclesiastical restored to her, as well as temporal; no more power in the one than in the other. The Proviso in the Conventicle-Bill might as well have exempted in that bill, and as well put in, in the Bill of the Irish cattle:the king cann ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- do it with all reverence to the crown:would have us show more affection than learning in it: a mathematical security we cannot have; a moral one we have from the king. The king cannot dispense with common law; religion cannot be changed without act of parliament. You may secure what you would have, without making so hard a vote as is proposed. Some would have a Bill for it; that is hard. Will you tie the king to indulge those consciences whether he will, or no I Now tender, hereafter may not be so: there is a great necessity to keep a bone from betwixt the king and parliament, and hopes you will propose nothing but what the king may well grant. Mr. Vaughan. When the king may dispense with any law, it must be manifestly for the good of the subject; if it does injury to the subject, it is illegal; if not, it is otherwise; no man is bound to a law, where there is not a punishment; and if this Declaration signifies any thing, the Church of England signifies nothing. He argued the dispensation with Merchant-strangers. You cannot hinder them, by law of nations; if they come for gain to the kingdom, it implies toleration. The king may pardon murder, or treason, but not give licence to do them. If not dispensable to violate the Sabbath; if the king cannot dispense with the law of man, k fortion, not with the law of God:all sorts and manners of people are dispensed with by this Declaration, Turks, Jews, &c. This Declaration is a repeal of 40 acts of parliament, no way repealable but by the same authority that made them:this Declaration does repeal 14 statutes of this king:those who will take no oaths at all, and so justice cease. It voids all testimony, and takes away my liberty, or estate. It is point-blank opposite to his laws; they and this cannot consist. If monarchs were as lasting as their kingdoms, there could be no danger in thii Declaration: we, that are magistrates, lie under the king's censure for our oaths, but in a perpetual danger, in all places, from God. As liberty of the subject consists in his right, so would have it measured by law. This prerogative is illegal, and our vote will say no more than the Declaration does in effect. Sir Rob. Howard. We are told ‘ that all is swept away by this Declarationbut what is the Church, if yon come not to the observation of all its ceremonies, church-wardens, visiting, and presenting, fee. ? Is it an argument that the Church of England is unsupported, unless every man be compelled to every thing in it? But the Church of England is not concerned in this Declaration. Things are come to that height, we cannot pull them down again:he has expected to hear where property has been concerned; life, liberty, and estate is property; now, would you know how any of these is invaded ? You have seen dispensations here, and have not thought them grievances. The abp. of Canterbury, Laud, found fault with the French and Dutch churches. Will you set up another government? The Long Parliament inserted this into one of its Articles; see how parliaments change:an unhappy time was that, and some took unhappy parts in it: nothing can gratify the Pope more than to say the king has no such jurisdiction. It is said, ‘ what shall the judges and justices of the peace do?' They receive an indulgence, the king has power to grant. It is a strange question to dispute what prerogative is, when all statutes make it so sacred a thing. The king says, ‘ it is legal, and lie will stick to it; ' and we say, ‘ it is not legal, and he shall not.' Is the Black Rod at the door ? Shall we so hastily fall into such a vote? If you think your civil rights are in danger, you make the Declaration ‘ probabilis causa litigandi. Do papists make ill use of ft, or any other cause? Then address the king, but vote it not illegal: proceed not this way to the king, else the Hollanders will rejoice. Sir Wm. Coventry. This is a point tenderly to be handled, and hopes to propose something towards a close of the business: will wave all arguments from an universal claim of prerogative to be universally exercised. Our ancestors never did draw a line to circumscribe prerogative and liberty. He hears no mau urge this prerogative more than when the king cannot have a parliament: but when a parliament does come, something, you say, must of necessity be done, else you say it is legal, and that allows it. It has been moved for an Address, but no roan says upon what subject-matter: this vote of the subject-matter of great difficulty: but since you may enter into debates you would avoid, he proffers you words not his own, but yours, upon the Declaration of Breda. It says, ‘ Laws then in being, that could not be dispensed with but by act of parliament. ' Sir Thomas Meres. We may, at that time, come nearer his majesty than ever, for now the house of commons having seen ho ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- an humble Address of this house to his majesty, to preserve the Act of Uniformity. Seij. Maynard. Dispensation of the penal laws to be illegal, is more than you intend to 525] PARL. HISTORY, 24 Chart.es It. 1672-3. — Address against the Declaration. [526 vote. It is agreed on all hands, that the king cannot suspend so as to repeal; else why do we make any law ? He may make them as well in ecclesiastical matters: Whether universal dispensation, not limited, does repeal a law, or no, he will not enter into dispute: would distinguish, in the question, Popish recusants, * but whether legal or illegal, * is too harsh. Rather for an humble Address to the king to remove our fears in the business. Sir Rob. Carr. When we consider what ways have been taken to quiet people, the thing was dispensed with by justices of the peace, and the people ought not to owe that to the justices, which should be to the king: hears not one instance against property: would have a committee to pen the Address in such words as we may not repent when we have done. Sir John Birkenhead. Recusants were tolerated ten years in the beginning of queen Eliz. and no laws were made against them, until she was sure she could make them good. The Oath of Supremacy not exacted in the lords house; but the commons got them in, by incapacitating them for offices until they had taken that oath: conformity a thiBg much in option. Col. Titus. On both sides gentlemen have acquitted themselves well: Coventry’s motion was to alter the words of voting; the Declaration illegal is not the matter: moves for an Address to the king, " That penal Laws in Ecclesiastical matters, may not have their force till the parliament shall declare some act in the business/ * Sir Edw. Dering. Is no advocate for the legality of Declarations; we need not look farther back than 3 Charles, liberty infringed; some sent abroad, Hammond and Glanville; banishment, martial law; then an Address was made to the king, that the thing might be redressed: we rather now speak what we fear, than what we feel. The king has given you liberty of Address in all difficult cases, and moves for a committee now for an address to the king. Col. Birch. If ever men were to answer for a trust, it is this: can laws be any ways suspeuded but here ? Desires, unless some will make it out, that we may pass it by; we must do it; if dispensation cannot be made out, then put the question. Serj. Seys.The carrying out wool, and bringing in Gascon wines, and transporting bell-metal out of England, were particular things and not at all invading the rights of the subject. From the dispensing with cart wheels to jump to that of conscience, is magnum, that makes us have reason to fear. Patents are judged unlawful every day in Westminster, and voided by scire facias. The laws are no ways to be suspended but by act of parliament. Sir Tho. Osborne does not wonder that the king expresses these things to be in his inherent right, when his own council thinks so, and his counsel at law: moves that the Address nay be referred to a committee. Mr. Harwood hopes the king will hear the counsel of this bouse; his great council, as well as his other council. Sir Tho. Lee. What is the use of his great council of parliament, but to inform the king he has been misled and mistaken by his privy-council ? It is our duty to the people, and the king calls you to declare your opinion. It plainly appears to be a mistake in the crown, and you must inform him of it. Sir Robt.Howard. If a noli pros, be en- tered by the king’s attorney-general, is not this a suspension, and will you hinder that? Mr. Attorney Finch knows not one of the king’s counsel learned in the law, that ever saw this Declaration otherwise than in print, and he never made any other inferences from it than you have done. The king, by his supremacy, may discharge any cause in ecclesiastical courts^ they being his. Why do you put an universal term upon a thing particular? Moves that we may hum ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- es beyond us. They are neither sheriffs, constables, nor tything-men, nor are any laws put in execution against them. Knows very well that at Edgebill battle, the late king complained that they'did not their duty, and during the war they lay coucbant at Worcester. Religion is to be preferred before all considerations. The best foundation of the state is religion; it makes men more peaceable and better subjects. The Quaker and Anabaptist have no foundation. He has greater apprehensions of the Papists than of any others. Su-perfetadons of religion are horrible. Has travelled, and (be thanks God) came home a better Protestant than be went. Their wine is the better in France by being brought into England, but our gentry worse by going into France. The Papists are wholly excluded out of the question; for they are not quiet and peaceable men, as others are. It was then resolved, nem. con. u That a Bill be brooght in for the Ease of his majesty’s Protestant subjects that are Dissenter? in matters of Religion from the Church of England." , J Debateon desiring the Concurrence of the Lords to the Address.] The question being put, That the Concurrence of the Lords be desired, to the Petition and Address to the King, Mr. Swynfin said, If you had voted, upon a single vote, what laws to be suspended, and what not, you must have gone to the lords; but now it is involved with other things, you cannot; your Message must have been singly upon the vote. It is a matter in which the lords cannot agree with you, viz. You say you have taken the matter of the Speech into consideration; if the lords have not, they cannot agree with you. For a single judgment uninvolved, you must go to them, and for an opinion in law. Sir Rd. Temple. No precedent that ever we went.siogle to the king in things of this ’ . l()72-3. — A Nezc Speaker chosen. [534 nature without the lords. You went to the king and offered him reasons for what you could not concur with in his Speech. About relaxation in the Petition of Right, you went to the lords to join with you in petitioning the king, that the laws might have theirfree course. This Address is to the same effect. We never, went alone in a public concern of the kingdom to the king. The matter of your Petition is a judgment in law. Hopes not for a good success if you go without the lords. If you take this course, the lords may justly object, that you declare law without them; the king may "dy say, he will have the advice of the before* he gives an answer, and will think it unreasonable to do it, without consulting the lords and the judges. Mr. Attorney Finch. The former going without the lords, about the Declaration of Breda, was no judgment of law. Did you ever desire a Proclamation against the Papists, but by both Speakers, hand in hand ? Do you think this matter of less consequence ? He (•ranted this indulgence to peers as well as commons. If they shall differ from you, it lies at their doors, and you have discharged yourselves. Will not you acquaint the lords in an universal judgment of law ? The king may deny it because not parliamentary. To send it to the lords, is the way to make it more easily pass, and it is for your honour to do so. Sir Wm. Coventry. When you asked liberty of access to the king's person, it was for yourselves, not the lords. In the Petition of Right there was more need than in this, for that had the force of a law. We usually go to the lords when things are in doubt; but may we not by ourselves claim our laws, and that they may have a free course ? Some among the lords may be distasted with your vote. It may be, the lords will have conferences to delay. In all the debates we have avoided disputes of prerogative and liberties; the committee would not touch reasons for fear of offence. Will you go from your former precedents, and put hazard of conferences, which will put us upon arguing what we would not argue here, and put ourselves upon that rock we would avoid ? Mr. Milward. In your vote you have declared the law, and now you would avoid the judgment of the highest judicature. The Petition of Rightis rfeyure to be granted, and therefore the lords to be consulted. Before the lords come to Addresses they will consider, and conferences are natural, and can never be avoided in any transaction with the lords. — The Question being put that the concurrence of the lords be desired, &c. it passed in the negative, 125 to 110. Sir Job Charlton quits the, and Mr. Seymour chosen in his place.] Feh. 15. The Speaker, Sir Job Charlton, neing much indisposed *, the house adjourned to Tuesday, Feb. 18; when being met, and the Speaker’s in- * " Some insinuated that the Speaker wa» sick of his post, " Grey. 535] PARL. HISTORY, 24 Charles II. 1672-3. — Debate on the Bill for granting [536 disposition growing still more upon him, that he was not able to attend the service of the house, and having, by letters, desired leave of his majesty and the house to resign the place of Speaker, and retire into the country, Mr. Edward Seymour, eldest son of sir Edw. Seymour, bart. being nominated and recommended, by Mr. Secretary Coventry, as, a fit person, both in respect of his ability and experience, as also of his constitution and health of body, for the Speaker; he was accordingly chosen, presented, and approved of by his maj. Debate on the Bill for granting to Protestant. Dhtenters.] Feb. 19. The house re- solved into a committee, to tak, e into consideration the subject-matter of a Bill for Ease to his maj.’s Protestant subjects, who are Dissenters, in matters of Religion, from the Church of England. Sir Lancelot Lake, citing a passage in St. John of those who called themselves Jews and were not, moved to have the 39 Articles read, and would have that the test. Mr. Hale moved to know what the gentlemen concerned in the king’s Declaration would move you in, for redress of their grievances. Sir Tho. Lee, Our debate is from the late vote, who you would have eased.’ Would have the question to Subscribers to the Articles of the Church of England, ’ and thiuks that a good test. Sir Nich. Carcw would have the Church of England as strong as you can against the Church of Rome. Would be loth to ask toleration of them. Would take in ‘ those that dissent not in matters of doctrine. ' Sir John Birkenhead. The leveller will not have the minister have two livings, nor the gentleman two manors, no emperor, no king. Are such as these the men you would ease ? Before you consider what ease to give them, know from them what they would have, for one thing will not please them all; but says one, Who represents them ? By licences granted since the Declaration you may know who represents them. And made a large discourse of our Religion settled by act of parliament. Mr. Gdrroway. We are all beholden to Birkenhead for telling us that the parliament makes Religion, and the Articles, valid. Consider your vote and your Address. Dissenters are many, and not one vote can comprehend them all: would make your first steps to bring in the better sort, and if you find the door too strait, make it wider to bring in more, Moves, for the least, so many ‘ as will agree to the 39 Articles, or as many of them as relate to the doctrine of the Church of England.* We have people that would come in the Papists are under an anathema, and cannot come in under pain of excommunication. Mr. Secretary Coventry. It is a good motion, made to see what those out of the Church do desire. A man would give something to get something, but would not give something to get nothing. We confess that things of ceremony are in themselves indifferent, and therefore they keep out, and may have the same arguments with the Papists of salvation in their Church, and not in ours, &c. It is confessed that never any Liturgy was like our Common Prayer. We may suppose that all people here are for the Common Prayer, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ng’s service. The slackness of the Money Bill, yesterday, possibly was from the delay of the king’s Answer:we have either done too much, or too little, in this business:to contend with the king, during these distractions abroad, if our arguments are not warrantable, will be the destruction of us and the crown itself. If this be the case, we shall be thought persons rather pragmatical than to have right on our sides. If we do not renew our Address, how can we discharge our trust ? If properties be not safe, we shall not know what to give, nor to whom to give. Sir John Trevor. Since this so much concerns our allegiance, and the property of the subject, is moved to speak:differs from Vaughan:the question is not, whether the laws and our liberties are safe; but whether we shall importune the king so unseasonably at this time? Would fain see any gentleman (which he must say according to his profession) bring a precedent that any Answer has been so suddenly pressed:has read Petitions and Answers, 2 and 6 Hen. iv. The king is not obliged to answer but at his own time:jealousies presently whispered abroad, and would not have such a motion chopped in, but to the business of the day. Sir John Mullet. We have formerly addressed about the Papists, and disbanding the Army: the same day the king gave a gracious Answer; and hopes we shall have so of this. Sir Wtn. Coventry. Is against the question, as thinking it too early; not above 3 days since you carried the Address; and the Answer may possibly be the same again, if you send so soon: the privy counsellors of the house will be tender to acquaint the king of your debates, without your order; but they may, as of them- selves, inform the king how time slips away, and prevent the impatience of the house of commons. Sir Tho. Lee.Our laws and liberties are concerned, and wonders at so great arguing against the thing:what was your Petition ? That the laws might have their free course: in order to a legislative Address, money and grievances ever went together:would be glad of an effect of this debute, in all the cool manner imaginable; but money now begins sooner than ordinary; formerly, it was last debated, and last euded. The motion not so chopped in’ as was said: it is most necessary, considering the fears of the people, their laws being at stake. Moves to have it adjourned to Tuesday, if thought too sudden. Mr. Gurrouuy. It is not so much our fears; as the account we are to give the people. There is no ill-intention in the motion; but with all'candour moves to adjourn the debate. Sir Rob. Carr. It has always been the wisdom of this house to do things with all decency; and if this last motion did do so, would not be against it:no man can find a precedent, and he would not have the debate adjourned. Mr. Harwood. Has not heard of this in our forefathers time; but, it seems, we are come here to learn manners. It does not look well. It is confessed, hut a few days since, we attended the king; therefore would respite the debate till Tuesday, without a farther question. Sir Tho. Meres speaks to Tuesday:hopes gentlemen are convinced how necessary that vote was: whatever we ask here of the king, is the right we were born to; no new thing:if this be auew Address, the Declaration is as new; and one new thing begets another. No man can show such a Declaration by any counsel learned. The Judges soon going out of town to their circuits; now is the time to advise with them, or they will be gone. It is a great while since our Vote; and it is known about the town. It will be two days till wp shall sit, and we, poor country-fellows, may be rude and unmannerly; but we have as good hearts as the finest of them all; we mean as well as the best of them. If we have too much heat (he means zeal for our law’s) if we contend for nothing else, shall we fall flat without a question ? It may be we shall never have an Answer, because a few plain country gentlemen move for it:it will look like a desertion of the thing, not ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hopes this house will never be guilty I 0f‘ | Mr. Secretary Coventry avers there is no as-, sertion in the Message, nor distinction; it, joins both our liberties and ecclesiastical ! matters. In the words of the Message, the | king never had thoughts of using it otherwise, | than for the good of his subjects not to properties, nor to alter any thing established by | law in church or state. Mr. Powle. Jenkins said, ‘ there was a ne- 1 cessity of the Declaration/ The violation of j our laws has been necessity. The States of I Normandy desired the king of France not to ' raise any more taxes but by their consent; his j answer was/* he would not do it but upon ne- cessity :’ and that necessity has been ever since, and he has raised money without them: Shall we rest in a doubtful and ambiguous Answer, where our rights and liberties are concerned? Would have the Answer of Thanks and Complaint go together, and how you can do it without a committee, a wiser man than he must tell you. It was then resolved, "That the Thanks of this house be presented to his maj. for his gracious Assurances and Promises in his Answer to the Address presented by this house/ * Feb. 25. Sir Wtn. Coventry. It concerns us to proceed with all duty to his maj. for preservation of our laws and liberties: Finds no way more expedient for this business, than going into a grand committee: hopes it may be done substantially, and answer all the ends of the house, and heats avoided: We have always referred Reasons lor things to be prepared by a committee, and the house to approve of them; and he thinks it now most expedient to your purpose. Mr. Pou tc.Before you refer it to a com- mittee, would open the exceptions we have to his majesty’s Answer. It is apparent, that those persons that advised his maj. to this Declaration, still inform him that it is his right. Not questioned in the reigns of any of his ancestors/ will seem to imply, an unquestionable right without parliament — 3 James, Petition of Grievances; some wholly relating to ecclesiastical matters — The jurisdiction of the High Commissioned Court abused, in pursuance of their citations and excommunications; all ec clesiastical matters — In the next session, complaint of the Canons of 1 James, without consent of parliament, which were then protested against, and complained of. In the next session, complaint that the ecclesiastical laws were not put in execution against non-residents and recusants — The king then, it seems, has been strangely misinformed of his power in ecclesiastical maters: the law gives penalties, not by way of profit or revenue, but for punishment of ofienders: If the king can remit penalties, always complained of in parliament, and redressed there, it tends to the overthrow of all things; and hopes this assertion will be waved: taking the co-hcrence all together, that the king may, for peace, suspend laws, the pretence of necessity may never be wanting — The saying ‘ a Bill may be more proper, ’ implies suspension to be proper: These things have extremely weighed pith him:and doubts not but, upon our informing the king, he will be graciously pleased to satisfy u^; else the consequence will he an endless dispute betwixt the king and this house. Sir Tho. Lee hopes that care will be taken, for the future, that there shall he no occasion of this nature. thinks this business too great for a committee. Sir Tho. Meres would have the committee so far empowered, as plainly to show that the power is not in the king: If not so instructed, time will be lost, and new debates again. 551] PARL. HISTORY, 24 Charles II. Resolved, 44 That it Ik* referred to a Commute, to consider w hat Answer to return to his majesty’s last message, and to make report thereof." The Commons' second Address to the King.] Feb. 2d. Mr. Powle reports the following Answer agreed by the committee: Most Gracious Sovereign, We your maj.’s roost humble and loyal subjects, the knights, citizens, and burgesses, in this present parliament assembled, do render to your sacred mnj. our most dutiful Thanks, for that, to our unspeakable comfort, your mnj. hath been pleased so often to reiterate unto us those gracious promises and assurances of maintaining the Religion now established, and the Liberties and Properties of your people:And we do not in the least measure doubt, hut that your Maj. had the same gracious intentions in giving satisfaction to your subjects, by your Answer to our late Petition and Address; yet upon a serious consideration thereof, we find, that the said Answer is not sufficient to clear the apprehensions that may justly remain in the minds of your people, by your majesty's having claimed a power to suspend penal Statutes, i ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- — And this we present in all dutifulness to your majesty’s princely wisdom and consideration, as the best means for the satisfying and composing the minds of your loyal subjects; humbly desiring your maj. graciously to accept of this our petition as proceeding from hearts and affections entirely devoted to your majesty’s service, and to give it your royal approbation." The king's Speech to both .] March 8. This day the king went to the bouse of lords, and, sending for the commons, made the following Speech: " My lords and gentlemen; Yesterday you presented me an Address, as the best means for the satisfying and composing the minds of my subjects; to which I freely and readily agreed:and I shall take care to see it performed accordingly. I hope, on the' other side, you, gentlemen of the h. of commons, will do your part; for I must put yon in mind, it is near 5 weeks since I demanded a Supply; and what you voted unanimously upon it, did both give life to my affairs at home, and disheartened my enemies abroad: but the seeming delay it hath met withal since, hath made them take new courage; and they are now preparing for this ueM summer a greater fleet (as they say) than ever they had yet; so that, if the Supply le not very speedily dispatched, it will be altogether ineffectual; nnd the safety, honour, and interest of England, must of necessity be exposed. Pray lay this to heart; and let not the fears and jealousies of some draw an inevitable min upon us all. — My Lords and Gentlemen; If there be any Scruple remain with you concerning the Suspension of Penal Laws, I here faithfully promise you, that what bath been done in that particular shall not for the future be drawn either into consequence or example; and as I daily «x- SGl] PARL. HISTORY, 24 Charles II. 1672-3. — Test Act. [562 pect from you a bill for my Supply, so, I assure you, 1 shall as willingly receive and pass any other you shall offer me, that may tend to the giving you satisfaction in all your just grievances." The King’s Answer to the Address.'] March 8. The lord chancellor reported, That both houses waited upon the king yesterday, and presented him with the Address against the Growth of Popery; and his maj. hath been pleased to return this Answer: " My lords and gentlemen; I do heartily agree with you in your Address, and shall give speedy order to have it put in execution: there is one part to which I believe it is not your intention that it should extend; for I can scarce say those are iu my pay that are presently to be employed abroad; but as for all the other parts, I shall take care it shall be done as you desire." The King cancels the Declaration of gence.] " There was another particular, " the lord chancellor said, " he thought lit to acquaiut them with; which, though it was by his majesty’s leave, yet it was not by his command:however, he thought it his duty to acquaint the house with it (Mr. Secretary Coventry intending to acquaint the h. of commons with the same): That his maj. had the last night, in pursuance of what he then intended, and declared this morning, concerning the Suspension of Penal Laws not being for the future drawn either into consequence or example, caused the original Declaration under the great seal to be cancelled in his presence; whereof himself and several other lords of the council were witnesses." All this was so satisfactory to the parliament, that both bouses joined in the following vote, ‘ Resolved nero. con. That the humble and hearty Thanks of these houses be returned to his majesty, for his gracious full and satisfactory Answer this day given to their humble Petitions and Addresses.’ This was declared to the king in the Banquetting-House, by the mouth of the lord chancellor at the head of both houses: to which his majesty made this Answer, " My lords and gentlemen, I hope there never wiH be any difference amongst us; I assure you there shall never be any occasion on my part." Debate on the Bill to prevent the Growth of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tive of the people, and consequently the best judges of the true temper of the nation: A house of commons surpassing all that ever have been, in the illustrious marks of their duty, loyalty and affection to the sovereign, both in his person and government; such a bouse of commons as his majesty ought to consider, and cherish always, with such a kind of love as is due to a wife, never to be parted with unkindly, and not as a mistress to be turned off when our turn is served by her. My Lords, this casual mention of a wife, suggests to my thoughts a pursuance of the comparison. I have observed in the course of my life, that men who have wives somewhat coquets, thatisaIittle subject to gallantries, live easier lives with them, and freer from troublesome contentions, than those who have wives of exact rigid virtue; and the reason is clear: for the more gamesome ladies being conscious of the failings iu that essential part, are careful to disguise, and repair them by kind and tender compliances with their husband’s humour in all other things; whereas wives severely punctual and exact in the chief matrimonial duty, expect and even exact far greater compliances from their husbands, and think themselves as it were privileged by the rigidness of their virtue to be sometimes troublesome in domestic affairs; especially if there be any jealousy in the case. In like manner, my lords, it is not to be much wondered at, if this incomparable house of commons, transcending all that ever were in the grand essentials of duty, loyalty, and affection to their king, should at sometimes be a little troublesome to him io lesser occurrences; especially when once fears and jealousies are on wing. My lords, I shall not pretend to determine whether there have been any iust grounds given by any violent men, or by the unseasonable ambition of any Roman Catholics for such fears, and jealousies; it suffices to exact the necessity of a timely remedy, since they have indeed most violently seized, and distempered the minds of the major part of his majesty’s Protestant subjects, which certainly no man conversant in the world can deny. Now, my lords, in popular fenrs and apprehensions, those usually prove most dangerous that are raised upon grounds not well understood, and may rightly be resembled to the fatal effects of panic fears in armies, where I have seldom seen great disorder arise from intelligences brought in by parties and scouts, or by advertisements to generals; but from alarms upon groundless and capricious fears of danger, taken up we know not either bow, or why: This no man of moderate experience in military affairs but hath found die dangerous effects of one time or other, in giving a stop to which mischiefs the skill of great commanders is best seen. In like manner, my lords, this great and judicious assembly of the b. of commons, rightly sensible of the dangerous effects which so general a 1672-3. — in jaxourof th Test Act, [566 disturbance of mens minds in the concernments of Religion (how groundless soever) might produce, have applied their care to obviate them by this Bill: A bill, in my opinion, as full of moderation towards Catholicks, as of prudence, and security towards the religion of the state. In this bill, my lords, notwithstanding all the alarms of the increase of Popery, and Designs of Papists, here is no mention of barring them from private, and modest exercise of their religion; no banishing them to such a distance from court, no putting in execution of penal laws iu force against them; all their precautions are reduced to this one intent, natural to all societies of men, of hindering a lesser opposite party from growing tot/ strong for the greater and more considerable one: And in this just way of prevention, is not the moderation of the house of commons to he admired, that they have restrained it to this^ole point, of debarring their adversaries from Offices and.Places, and from accessions of wealth by favour of the sovereign? 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Would not have this bill sent up to hinder them, to make the parenthesis in a business there to interrupt them; he offers the lords leisure, but imposes nothing on them: If any man would have the Money Bill pass in the lords house the next week, concludes that the rest of the bills cannot go with this. Sir Tho. Osborne, is sorry to hear a day named so far off, you hear the approach of the Holland fleet: and is sorry to have occasion so often to tell you of the backwardness of ours. Mr. Vaughan. The giving this Bill so speedily out of our hands may call us a kind and bountiful parliament, but never a wise one: The not passing the other bill will expose us to right of conquest again:A greater matter than any thing else: When the king has hearts, he has purses also, and can never want seamen: There is that scatters and yet increases; and ' there is that with-holdeth more than is meet, and it tendeth to poverty. ’ Sir Rob. Howard. After Chatham business, the king had a greater opportunity to impose than he has now.: It looks hard, ’ that after the king has granted so much, you should be jealous: the king has not left any thing to do to us; and must we stop Supply, because other persons (the lords) have not done what you would have them ? This bill cannot be ingross-cd suddenly: It would look ugly in any man to do it: no man can write the Bill fairly till Tuesday: hopes the thing will be as full of good intentions as ever; but that those intentions, with delay, will be defeated. Mr. Garrowai/j hopes in time we shall have an answer from the king, as to the impositions; and possibly some persons, that advised that with the Declaration, may have apprehensions upon them: he forgives them and prays God that he would: hopes for a general pardon, that they may have the benefit of it. Mr. Powle, conceives it the right of parliament not to enter into debates, so much as of Supply, till redress of grievances; and it scons a tacit obligation upon the king, to redress the grievances, because it smooths the way the better for money:no man can think that we have no more grievances than already complained of: would not delay the bill till all the grievances be redressed, but would till they are stated to the king: sees by authority, [563 a printed paper of imposition .on commodities, not imposed by act of parliament: It is said, * that, by stopping the bill, we shall put a violence on the lords; ’ but we put none Upon them:if this issue with them answers not our ends, we may think of something else:all arguments he hears spoken of, for the hastening this bill, are the tragical fates of necessity; but still asks. Who occasioned this necessity: when it might have been prevented by the parliament’s being called in Oct. last; and thinks them guilty ot a great crime that were the authors of the advice of prolonging it till now; and hopes to have that, and some other grievances, redressed; your clerk, he hears, sat up all night to ingross part of the Money Bill, and it cannot be retarded by a few days. Mr. Thomas. We have exposed the person of the king, by answering our grievances of Popery; and thinks the king not safe without removing some persons; and names lord Arundel of Wardour, col. ltd. Talbot, and father Patrick. Sir John Duncombe, is much surprized at the motions be has heard to day; very unreasonable, and untimely brought forth: no prince ever made such an answer as the king has made; he has done what lies in him:is sorry to see still new clouds rise: nothing i> gone from you vet, but the Bill of Popery, and the first moment read in the house of lords, and they are now sitting upon it: why is this ? He never heard a question, that after this bill is perfected, it should not be ingrossed:your fears are taken away; if ingrossed, you may stop it still. Is ashamed to tell you of the lowness of the exchequer*; but those arguments are stopped by money: appeals to gentlemen concerned in the revenue aiKl navy-office, if things are not at a stop for want of money:the thing is not graceful, it has not a good countenance; it is so methodical, so easy and decent, the question for ingrossing, that he wonders any man can press against it: no man can take any thing from us: the bill, after being ingrossed, may lie upon the table, and you may call for it as you shall see occasion. Col. Strangzvoys. Consider the nature of the thing; we owe the removal of our jealousies to the king, who has graciously done it: was it not a great point, the redressing our laws, when attempted to be destroyed at one blow ? every man knows, that these Money Bills are ingrossed to your hands: when wc follow the steps of our ancestors, we shall do as wise things' as they did. ‘ Let the Bill be ingrossed, and lie upon your table, * say some; but what calling will there be for it then r fears nothing but surprizes: would not force the lords, but would have them pressed by some arguments we use here:is for Friday. Sir Tho. Lee. If one great and extraordinary grievance be, and that redressed, shall * He was at this time chancellor of the exchequer. PARL. HISTORY, 24 Charles II. 1672-3. — Debate on the Bill of Supply. 569] PARL. HISTORY, 24 Chart.es II. 1672-3. — Debate on the Bill of Supply. [570 that be an argument for the king to redress us no more ? % When no more grievances are men- i tioned, it will be thought we have no more:I not to mention other things, besides that of j Ireland, the great growth of Popery, and our neighbour’s house on fire:hopes that persons concerned will acquaint you with it farther. He loves his ease in the country, and would be there, but would not have the king ignorant of many things: with that of the Order of Council imposing a rate upon coals:hopes, in due time, to have a redress of the^e things and others. Col. Birch. Is far from thinking that the Ling has the least jealousy of the Money Bill, but that we intend his honour and safety, any thing of great or rich he has came from us; when we could not tell who was master when we came hither, thanks God we know now, and hopes no more clouds will be stirring. Imposi tions against law, the people pressed, and that of Ireland, and should be loth that if any thing farther should be offered of grievances, any man should say, Why have you left these things unrepresented, and the "king so gracious, in granting what you have asked ? Bills are much more slippery in parchment than in paper: what he moves, is for the king’s honour and safety:was the enemy here now, would say nothing of it; but why were we not here in Oct. last? No man can say there has been the least backwardness in this parliament: would have the paper Bill lie on the table till Friday. Sir Trevor Williams. What he has heard makes his heart bleed; and therefore moves for Monday, to consider redress of Grievances. Sir Ediv. Derittv. We all tend to the same end, and let us go the same way: after Friday but a few days to Easter: the Bill of Supply will take up a whole day reading, and some unforeseen delays may stop it: therefore moves for Friday. Sir Wm. Coventry. The clerk is ingrossing the Bill without order; and you were told another shrewd thing, that a great deal of the Bill was slipped in the ingrossing:would not have any thing doubted hereafter; you are judges of it here, and others, when you have done: would have what is written already, cancelled, and not brought to you. Mr. Waller. Ingrossing without order! It may be copied in parchment for some gentleman’s use, as well as in paper; sometimes we were in such great haste, that the Act of Oblivion, in its confirmation, was not read at all:when a question has been of not putting the question now, has known that question never put at all: if that question should be now, no man can speak to the ingrossing the bill afterwards:are not necessity and speed acknowledged by the house ? Are not our grievances redressed, and have not our forefathers taken care to keep Papists out of authority, and we greater ? In the late times, this house had a passionate suspicion, and we would have removed Papists, and it was afterwards, by that passion, done much worse; never was doubt of a Bill once voted but passed/ it is said; but we may remember, but last session, that a dispute with the lords about heightening and lowering rates, damned our bill of foreign commodities*; our Votes since have lost their credit: is against Popery, and we have both leges et mores against them, law and inclination of the people against them: will you neither trust them, the king, nor God, but trust an enemy in retarding this bill ? Would you have them come out to sea, before our Act comes out in print ! If you find out a way, there will be ‘ viatn inveniam aut faciam’ necessity stamps all things with a face of justice: would have Friday ordered for ingrossing the bill. Sir Tho. Littleton. Sir Henry Vane was the first that ever proposed putting a question, " whether the Question should be now put/f and since, it has been always the forerunner of putting the thing in question quite out: there- fore would not have that question put now. Sir Wm, Coventry. There is great difference between, whether the Question shall be put/ and now put.’ It is no new thing to put that question in point of adjournment; and if it passed in the negative, it never was, but that the house was afterwards adjourned. Mr. Garroiccy. It is certainly agreed by us all, that that question of the Bill shall be put; though the question of the day be as is proposed. Mr. Secretary Coventry. Can any man tell that the Hollanders are not strong enough to come out, or that they, by their confederates, may not invade us? An enemy that can invade us and will not, no man can say: when you shall give it, and the enetny come and gather it, you will put the king upon his necessity:the shew-bread was eaten by David; it was not forbid, but told us for precedent. Col. Strangways is sorry to hear of these necessities:bring us the men that have been the occasion of these necessities, and he will tell you what to say to them:he that does the necessity is not the judge of it: was not salua populi periclitatur’ the occasion the Ship-Money was called for ? Knows uot what belongs to these little bye tricks great necessity is to be argued in the lords house, not here:those arguments, if used, let them be there; let us hear no more of these arguments; and let us not be reproached with these arguments of necessity, that were not the occasion of it, but let them be laid on persons that occasioned it. Mr. Garroway. If those gentlemen will join issue on the argument of necessity, let the causers of it be accountable for it. Mr. Secretary Coventry is not afraid of ouris, nor any man’s hearing what counsel he gave the king: desires that whoever is faulty, be it * Sec p. 480. t Now usually called The previous Question. ' 571] PARL. HISTORY, 24 Charles II. 16/2-3. — Bill for . [5/2 any man, he may answer it: when a man has been debauched by another, and falls into a distemper, your first business is to cure the man, and then blame him that debauched him:if there be such men, that have been the occasion of this advice, let them answer it. Sir Tho. Mercs. This thing of necessity’ was an ill argument at first, and would not have Waller (who proffered to speak again) speak twice to it, to inflame it more. The Speaker. No man can find any precedent of sir Henry Vane’s Question: by that question we can never come to an end of any business: the question in being may be the next day put, and so you usher in an impossibility of bringing things to a period. Sir Rob. Howard. This Question is like the image of the inventor, a perpetual disturbance. Mr. Garroxcay. If you can find out an expedient, that may carry off the heat, is for it. Col. Titus. Some gentlemen believe the bill already ingrossed j if so, it is more haste than could be wished; the desire of some is to get a competent time to get grievances redressed; others, that the necessity of the king and kingdom require a dispatch:a competent time is agreed on both sides; he thinks Friday so; and then to bring in our Grievances remaining. Sir Tho. Osborne would know the cause why the rest of our grievances are not alledged:as for the Declaration and Religion, he appeals, whether, when there was a stop of the Money bill, those two things were not the cause then:all that the king could do, he has done: does believe that by Friday we shall have an Answer from the lords: it is necessary, either in this house or out of it, for subjects to give the king time, and a right representation of things:should be sorry that any of the privy counsellors endeavours should be so blasted in this house, that they do not their part, till the king give you farther cause to apprehend so: there needs no jealousy on our parts now:how shall we have assurance, that the king has satisfaction in our intentions? Why should not the marks from this house be undeniable ? If this be your case, then to put a question that has dangerous construction in it: Is not for putting it. Mr. Vaughan. The king has no fault, the law says he has none, and hopes that none say so in' this house. Grievances have come before Supply, in right course of parliament, if now they come after, it is an example of great affection, and in few parliaments:if we are content to part with that right, and let it be for the present overlooked, hopes it shall not for the future be urged as as precedent. Ordered, " That the Money Bill be ingrossed, and brought in on Friday." Further Debate on the Bill for granting Ease to Dissenters.'] March 17. On the motion that the Bill be ingrossed, Sir John Duncombe. Is against all the Bill: as far as it is for Union, is for it, and the bringing men into the Church:as to assent and consent, ’ would have it taken away; but that will give men an impunity for not coming to Church; they will never come to Church:offers it to consideration, whether mankind will not generally live after this law:the parliament have overcome themselves, and they make this law for a year and to the end of the next session of parliamentif you should read over and examine your reasons to the king formerly, against Toleration, they would fly upon you: you have provided against Popery, and this is a great party; ambitious men will rise with them, and will support them to your posterity:what will the young men say at the Universities ? Let ns turn our parts to preach sedition and new lights, and return to the Church, as to an hospital, when we are old; which, by subscription, they may get into. No preferment in dull logic.’ This will be the effect; they will support one another by marriages and interests; it will be past your power to revoke it with all the interest you have:you are to have an eye over them, and watch them:dreads the consequence of this part of the bill:it will work upon all your concerns and interests ? leaves it to God and you. Sir John Bramtone supposes you would have every man to be of some religion, and to be master of his servants; and have the teacher and his congregation deliver their names to the parson of the parish. Mr. Sec. Coventry. You are ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- of Oblivion has made a grave for that:will you now crush the expectation o the nation in this thing? Thoughts arc active in mens minds, when they have hope for something:should have thought of making the king’s Declaration a law for a time; but that being not to be done, will you not compose people’s minds at home, when all abroad is in distraction ? If this bill be too much, or too little; if matters be too short in it you may lengthen them; if inconvenient, you may alter them; you will leave, by laying the Bill aside, as much disorder in the imaginations of the people, as in the thigg itself; therefore would pass the bill. Mr. Secretary Coventry. In the main, we may fling out this Bill, or keep it, and not offend the law of God:there is some inconvenience as to toleration; indifferent without limit: does think the honour of the house engaged by voting and acting he hopes it may be mended in the lords house, and with that hope sends it up. — The Bill was then passed. Debate on the Bill of Supply, ] March 21. The Bill of Supply was brought in, ingrossed, and laid on the table. Mr. Garroicay desires that the Money-Bill may not be read till Tuesday next, because you have the Bill of Popery, with Amendments, returned from the lords, where he hears we have been strangely represented:we are all concerned to see this Bill of Popery dispatched, and to clear the reputation of this house: therefore would have the Money-Bill for the present, laid aside. Mr. Sec. Coventry. It is very reasonable that the fears and jealousies of Popery should be removed, but would not defer the Tax-Bill so long: would go upon the Bill of Popery today, and would not have the king think we take any thing ill from him, who has promoted this Bill so much in the house of lords, by his countenancing it. Sir John Coventry hopes in time we may make this Bill of Popery a good one:this bill has had hard passage hither again:if we believe common fame, it nearly miscarried in the lords house:many more Grievances may come betwixt this and Tuesday, and would have that dav for the Tax-Bill. Sir 'tho. Osborne. 4 Common fame* came never from nobody, but by somebody; the gentleman ought to tell you by whom it came:we cannot take notice of what.is done in the lords house. Mr. Pozele hopes that our zeal for this Bill is not looked upon as an offence to the king, hut acceptable to him — 4 Common fame!’ No man can nominate on the sudden, who — This discourse cannot be without some fire; in time • It was returned from the lords, with some Amendments and Provisos, a little before this debate. it may come out, and those gentlemen will tell you, when they can, where they had it: moves for Tuesday, and hopes no ill intentions can be made out of it. . Sir John Duncombe would have you look at the end you would he at: go upon this Bill from the lords; you are master of your Orders: go and ask satisfaction of the king for your Grievances, and he is sure you will have it. Sir Rob. Carr finds no difference among gentlemen in the- thing. ’Till we read the Amendments the lords have sent down, we cannot tell whether satisfactory or not; we may possibly agree at a conference. Why will you do things that may look like dislike, when it is not? Would not have a blemish on the Supply; do the one and not the other. Col. Birch hears much said of common fame :’ it seems to be now the lord keeper, bishop Williams’s case, in 1614, or 1616 — ‘ common fame from the house of lords!’ Would go with safe steps for the king and kingdom; one thing is before you, that the king may not think we stop his business: would have this Tax Bill for Tuesday, and hopes by that time we shall give such advice, as may secure the king and kingdom:stands up to remind you that this is a parliamentary way of4 common fame. ’ Sir Courtney Poole thinks wc arc upon such a point that we have reason to think it w ill startle the king:4 Common fame’ is not a right way for the lords or the king, therefore would not insist upon it. Sir Tho. Meres tells the Speaker that he turns the question to another thing:he would have the question for the Bill of Popery, and the other question, for Tuesday, flrsted and seconded:demands whether he will be pleased to own that to be the question; and demands whether he can deny that that question was firsted, seconded and tliirded? Mr. Cheney. There has been something on your hands these two or three days, which is to be ready with the Tax, 4 the Grievances would not put a certain day for the Tax, and doubts not of redress of Grievances in due time. Mr. Poule gives an account of the Address about Grievances, ’ which cannot be finished till the committee can see the inspection into the affairs of Ireland, the secretary not having been attended, and could not be dispatched — This is not for the service of the king, his satisfaction, and good of the nation, and therefore we cannot in conscience part with the Money-Bill, till that business of Ireland be determined; but he has reason to take hold of things of common lame, ’ when some great officers have told the king, 4 that, if the Money Bill passed not, the king may be supplied otherwise. ’ Lord Cavendish thinks those Bills now depending, to quiet the minds of the king’s subjects, as necessary as any whatsoever: there are Grievances of on high nature, besides what are already depending; some are the root of all those grievances, the authors of these dis- 577] PARL. HISTORY, 24 Charles II. 1672-3. — Debate on the Naturalization Bill. [575 turbances, and those are evil counsellors:because other grievances are not named, hopes people will not think there are not more, therefore moves for Thursday for Grievances/ Lord St. John. Should ‘ common fame ’ have weight, you would have much to do; therefore would lay it aside: as to the Bill of Popery before you, he has so great love and tenderness for the king's person, that without this bill, neither the king nor we can be safe: would have a little time to consider these things, and would have Tuesday. Sir Rob. Howard. Are you afraid of any trick being put by the Money Bill ? Yon are masters of every day, and of what is fit to be done. Sir Tko. Meres. Does any body imagine no other business but this Bill ? If there was none, it could not be before Monday: would have this debate on Monday. The Debate was adjourned to Monday by consent. The Kings Message respecting a Recess.] March 24. Mr. Secretary Coventry delivered the following Message from the king: " C. R. 1 am commanded by his majesty, in pursuance of his late Message, to acquaint you that his majesty intends you shall rise before Easter, and therefore expects an expedition of such Bills as are of most importance; the bill of Popery, and that of Supply particularly:and for such other bills as concern either the public or particular, and cannot he so soon ready, that they may may not receive a disappointment, his maj. resolves to make this an Adjournment till the beginning of Oct. when you may continue their prosecution; in the mean time his maj. will take such care of the Protestant Religion, that you shall have no cause to complaio." Debate on. the Bill of General tion.] March 24. The Bill of General Naturalization was read a second time. Sir Rd. Ford. This bill exposes the great immunities of Corporations to be prostituted. Mr Sec. Coventry supposes you do not intend, by this Bill, that every gentleman shall set up what trade he pleases when he comes over: it is said, that Papists may come in by this bill; you may, to prevent that, put in traosubstautiation’ for a Test: the king has been at great charge this war: it was looked upon, at the beginning' of the war ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distempers']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- l your municipal laws, and all at the charge of your estates and understandings ? would have tuany years to consider of this bill. Col. Birch. It is not fully expressed, but intended, in the bill, that they should reside here: that which he admires, is, that many Turkey merchants arc in the bouse, and they say nothing in this business; they cannot sneak so well as the attorney; but lie would take it ill, if they should speak in his trade as he does in theirs: we bad all our arms first from Germany; fustians and silks all came from abroad, ninety parts out of an hundred: but if we must stick to our forefathere opinion, he is outdone: if the Scriptures be true, that a multitude of subjects is the glory of a king/ this is a good bill. Mr. Woiler spoke to their coming in poor upon our poor. King James desired an union with Scotland; the parliament denied him nothing, but granted him not that; but the lawyers found out a way of the post nati: they ore an alterius nos: there was no danger then; now they must either come in with stocks, or go to the house of correction: we have had plague and war, and civil war, and have peopled Ireland with 100,000 souls: 40s. a year, when he was a boy, was a good servant’s wages; now in Buckinghamshire, 8/. a year, ami are forced to send 30 miles for reapers, and fellers of wood:we labour under a paucity of people certainly: uo man was ever denied naturalisation here, paying his fees: that which was said by the Ancients, of the ‘ vivacity of youth and wisdom of age, ’ [complimenting the SpeakerJ is in you; you want not the Fees of Naturalization bills in your fortunes, and would have a mark of honour upon you, whilst you are Speaker, for doing it. * Mr. Vaughan remembers not the reason of the post nati, but thinks it because under our allegiance: is against reading the bill again; the most destructive thing in the world to your interest and govern incut. The Bill was committed, in the afternoon, 108 to fit. The Commons’ Address on Grievances in land.} March 25, p. m. Mr. Powle reported from the Committee the Address to the King concerning the Irish Grievances, which was agreed to, and is as follows: w We your majesty’s most loyal subjects, the commons in this present parliament assembled; taking into consideration the great calamities which have formerly befallen your majesty’s kingdom of Ireland, from the Popish Recusants there, who, for the most part, are * " Alluding to the Speaker’s giving all his Fees of private Bills to the Poor of St. Giles’s parish, iu which he lived." Grey. professed enemies to the Protestant religion and the English interest; and how they, making ill use of your majesty’s gracious disposition and clemency, are, at this time, grown more insolent and presumptuous than formerly, to the apparent danger of that kingdom and your majesty’s Protestant subjects there; the consequence whereof may likewise prove very fatal to this your kingdom of England, if not timely prevented; and having seriously weighed what remedies may be most properly applied to these growing distempers, do, in all humility, present your majesty with these our Petitions: — That, for establishing and quieting the possessions of your majesty's subjects in that kingdom, your Maj. would be pleased to maintain the Act of Settlement, and the explanatory Act thereupon; and to recall the Commission of Enquiry into Irish a (Taira, bearing date the 17th of Jan. last, as containing many new and extraordinary powers, not only to the prejudice of particular persons, whose estates and titles are thereby made liable to be questioned, but in a manner to the overthrow of the said Acts of Settlement; and, if pursued, may be the occasion of great charge and attendance to many of your subjects in Ireland, and shake the peace and security of the whole kingdom t — That your maj. would give order, that no Papist be either continued or admitted to be a Commander or Soldier in that kingdom; and, because the Irish Papists have furnished themselves with great quantities of arms, that your maj. would please to give directions so to disarm them, that they may not be dangerous to the government there, and that their arms be brought into the public magazines: — That the like order may be given, that no Papist be either continued, or hereafter admitted to he judges, justices of the peace, sheriffs, coroners, mayors, sovereigns, or portreves in that kingdom: — That the titular popish abps. bishops, vicars-general, abbots, and all others exercising ecclesiastical jurisdiction, by the Pope’s authority, and, in particular, Peter Talbot, pretended' abp. of Dublin, for his no-torioas disloyalty to your majesty, and disobedience and contempt of your laws, may be commanded, by proclamation, forthwith to depart out of Ireland, and all other your majesty’s dominions, or otherwise to be prosecuted according to law; and that all convents, seminaries, and public Popish schools, may be dissolved and suppressed, and the regular priests commanded to depart, under the like penalty: — That no Irish Papists he admitted to inhabit in any corporation of that kingdom, unless duly licensed, according to the aforesaid Acts of Settlement; and that your maj. would be pleased to recall your Letters of the 2fith of Feb. 1671, and your Proclamation thereupon, whereby general licence is given to such Papists to inhabit in Corporations there. — That your majesty’s Letter of the 28th of Sept. 1672, and the Order of Council thereupon, whereby your majesty’s subjects are required not to prosecute any actions against the Irish, for any 581] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Coarlis II. l6’73. — Grievances in England, and Ireland. [582 wrongs or injones committed daring the late Rebellion, may likewise be recalled. — That col. R. Talbot, who hath notoriously assumed to himself the title of Agent of the Roman Catholics in Ireland, be immediately dismissed out of all command, either civil or military, and forbid an access to your majesty's court. — That your maj. would be pleased, from time to time, out of your princely wisdom, to give such farther orders and directions to your lord lieutenant, or other chief governor of Ireland for the time being, as may best conduce to the encouragement of the English Planters, and Protestant interest there, and the suppression of the-insolenciea and disorders of the Irish Papists. — These our humble Desires we present to your majesty, as the best means to preserve the peace and safety of that your kingdom, which hath been so much of late endangered by the practices of the said Irish Papists, and, particularly, of the said Rd. and Peter Talbot; and we doubt not but your maj. will find the happy effects thereof, to the great satisfaction and security of your majesty's person and government, which, of all earthly things, is most dear to us, your majesty’s most loyal and obedient subjects." The Commons Address on Grievances in England.] Mr. Powle also reported the following Address to the King, about Grievances in England; which was also agreed to: " We your majesty's most loyal subjects, the commons in this present parliament assembled, conceiving ourselves bound in necessary duty to your majesty, and in discharge of the trust reposed in us, truly to inform your maj. of theestate of this your kingdom; and, though we are abundantly satisfied, that it hath always been your royal will and pleasure, that your subjects should be governed according to the laws and customs of this realm; yet finding, that, contrary to your majesty's gracious intentions, some Grievances and abuses are crept in; we crave leave humbly to represent to your majesty's knowledge, and to desire, — That the imposition of I2d. per chaldron upon coals, for the providing of convoys, by virtue of ao Order of Council, dated the I5tb of May, 16754, may be recalled, and all bonds, taken by virtue thereof, cancelled. — That your majesty's Proclamation of the 4th of Dec. 1672, for prevention of disorders which may be committed by soldiers; and whereby the soldiers, now in your majesty's service, are, in a manner, exempted from the ordinary course of justice, may likewise be recnlled. And whereas great complaints have been made, out of several parts of this kingdom, of divers abuses committed in quartering of soldiers, That your maj. would be pleased to give order to redress those abuses, and, in particular, that no soldiers be hereafter quartered upon any private bouses; and that due satisfaction may be given to the innkeepers and victuallers where they lie, before they remove. And, since the continuance of soldiers in this realm will necessarily produce many inconveniences to your majesty's subjects, we do humbly present it, as our* *Petition and Advice, that, when this present war is ended, all the soldiers which have been raised since the last session of parliament may be disbanded. — That your maj. would likewise be pleased to consider of the irregularities and abuses of pressing soldiers, and to give order for the prevention thereof for the future. And although it hath been the course of former parliaments to desire redress in their Grievances, before they proceeded to give a Supply, yet we have so full assurance of your majesty's tenderness and compassion towards your people, that we humbly prostrate ourselves at your majesty's feet with these our Petitions; desiring your majesty to take them into your princely consideration, and to give such order for relief of the subjects, and tl»c removing these pressures, as shall seem licst to your royal wisdom ♦. * Resolved, il That the Addresses be presented to his majesty; and that those members of the council that arc of the house, be desired" to know his majesty's pleasure, when this house shall attend him with the Addresses concerning Grievances." The King's Answer ] March 26. His majesty’s Answer to the Address of Grievances, was reported by the Speaker: " That he obse rved the Address did consist of many different parts; and therefore it could not be expected there should be a present Answer; but for the several particular things contained in it, he would, before the next meeting, take such care, that no man should have reason to complain." Ordered, " That the Thanks of this house be returned to his majesty, for the often accesses they have been admitted to his majesty’s person, and for his most gracious Answer to the several Addresses of this house; and, * " It is worthy observation, that the grand points of the irregular Writs, * the War/ * the Alliance with Franceand the shutting up of the Exchequer instead of applying for the advice and assistance of parliament/ are not so much as mentioned in this Address: and that in the introduction to these articles are many tender expressions. Now, supposing it was necessary, for decency's sake, to presume, that the king was ignorant of measures transacted in his own name, and well disposed to govern as he ought, it could not be presumed that these measures had no author nor adviser; and that these abuses and grievances had crept in by chance: notwithstanding which, instead of tracing the evil to its source, and making a wholesome example of the wicked ministers, who had so notoriously misled his majesty, and aggrieved and endangered his people, they suffered An Alt of Grace/ (which was so worded, as to contain an absolute pardon of every offence against the state before the 25th of March, 1673) to be brought in, and passed; which put them out of the reach of justice for ever." Ralph. 583] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles II. 1073. — Debate on printing the Addresses. [584 particularly, for his last gracious Message, and, for the care lie hath declared he will take of the Protestant 1101151011." Debate on printing the Addresses on ances., ] March 29. Mr. moved to have the Addresses concerning Grievances, and the king’s Answer, printed. Sir John Mullet. Divers Grievances have been by soldiers since the Address, and it is fit the people should have notice of it. Air. Sec. Coventry.You will show your complaints to the king of Grievances, but nut his Answer, for the king has not yet published any thing relating to it: you have no power to print it. Sir Tho. Meres. lie will not say you have power to print the king’s Speech, but we have power to print our own Address; there are many instances this parliament, and it may be of great use. Mr. See. Coventry. By the act of printing, you cannot print. Sir Tho. Meres. Since that act, sir Edward Turner, late Speaker, has appointed things to be printed several times. Sir Tho. Cforges will not dispute whether we have power or no; it is a kind of appeal to the people; but printing this will much heighten and increase the love of the people to the king:would have the privy counsellors of the house desire his maj. to cause them to be printed, Mr. llancood stands up to second the motion. Some incon\ enicnces have lately been by soldiers: you have had a member lately robbed (Mr. Wharton) by persons like soldiers, armed and horsed; his motion is no more than to keep the people quiet: thinks it a reasonable motion, and would have the king moved in it. Sir It. Temple. You would not let your transactions be printed in news-books; you have decried this printing, begun in the Long Parliament, as of ill consequence; let these tilings, like appeals to the people, be avoided. Sir Tho. Lee. The motion is far from an appeal to the people; this is only, that the king having given us a gracious Answer, you publish it. To what intent ? It will be a means to prevent farther mischief; the people may address the king for remedy for the future. Mr. Sec. Coventry. To print this, as if it were a statute or a law, will look like remonstrating; the Long Parliament was condemned for it. Col. Birch. The question is not your directing it to be printed, but desiring the king to cause it to be printed. If this were printed, it would end many disputes in the country about quartering of soldiers. Sir Rob. Carr.What can this printing be but a mistrust of the king, that he will not do what he has promised ? No doubt but the king will do it as effectually as he has promised. Mr. Vaughan. These are good objections, if the bouse was to order it to be printed; but we do no more appeal to the people by this than by publishing a law:it is to publish 1'iis majesty’s gracious favour to his people. Mr. Cheney. For the ill consequence that hath been made of it, and may be of this, would not have it printed. Sir Rob. Homard. The first motion is out of doors by the Act of printing:as for the next inotion, printed things are always the best speakers to the people:to what end should the people think you do this ? Mr. Swynfn. It has been debated long, and you cannot rise without a question:as he cannot think the Address improper, or the king’s Answer such as you cannot rest upon as satisfactory, therefore he is clear for moving the king to have it printed:it is said this is but an Address of this house to the king.’ Your usual course is, when your Grievances are not redressed, to have recourse to the lords for a law:in regard you have waved all other wuys, and taken this, it is most reasonable to have it printed, that a countryman may have something to show. Sir 1'ho. Lee. If you will adjourn now, adjourn the debate likewise to the next session, and let it be upon your books. The House divided even upon the Question, 105 to 105:the Speaker had the casting voice, and gave it for adjourning. * Adjournment.] Alarcii 29. p. m. Sir Tho. Meres reported, from the Conference had with the lords, upon the Aineudments of this house, to the amendments and provisoes by them sent to the Bill for Ease of his majesty’s subjects Dissenters from the Church of England; those Amendments which the lords insist on; of those sent from them; and those they do agree in; with the Amendments from this house:which he read; and delivered in at the table. — The Lords insisting on their first Amendment, the question being put for candles, upon division of the house 75 were for candles, and 136 against candles. Those (hat were for candles, were for prolonging the debate, that the black rod might call them up to the house of lords before they bad voted, ‘adhere; ’ and though divers motions were made for adjourning the debate till next session, yet no question could be put, the black rod knocking at the door. After passing several Bills, the king made the following short •Speech: " My lords and gentlemen; I thank you very kindly for the Supply you have given me; and, that you may see how kiudly I take it, I have given to my subjects a General Pardon, which I'have made as large as ever was granted by any of inv predecessors. What you have now left uudone, I hope you will finish at your next meeting; and so you may adjourn yourselves to the 20ih day of Oct. next." — The house was then adjourned by his majesty’s de- * And jestingly said " He would have his reason for his judgment recorded, viz. because he was very hungry." Grey. 585] PARL. 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The whole case is so well and generally known, that I need say uo more: your gneat wisdoms hath not done it at the first, peradventure, that the trade of Bankers might be suppressed, which end is now attained; so that now your great goodness may restore to those poor people, ana the many innocent ones that are concerned with them, some life and assurance of payment in a competent time. — My Lords and -Gentlemen; I have no more in command; and therefore shall conclude, with my own hearty prayers, that this session may equal, uay exceed, the honour of the last; that it may perfect what the last begun for the satiety of the king and kingdom; that it may be ever famous for having estahlised upon a durable foundation our religion, laws and properties; that we may not be tossed with boisterous winds, nor overtaken by a sudden dead calm; but that a fair gale may carry you, in a steady, even, and resolved wav, into the ports of wisdom and security 'Debateconcerning the Speaker.] Oct. 27. Sir Tbo. Littleton. Many exceptions were taken against your sen ice, when you was last called to the chair: excepts that you are a privy counsellor; hardly a precedent, at least not since the Reformation:Speakers, in queen Mary's time, were chosen for the re-establishment of the Roman religion:you might be made a privy counsellor afterwards, as a reward of your sendee, but not whilst you are Speaker: other offices you hold inconsistent with that chair, and have admittance to the most secret councils, and how improper is that, we having no man to present our Grievances but you ! You are too big for that Chair, and for us; and you, that arc one of the governors of the world, to be our servant, is incongruous: and as Carteret, treasurer of the navy, in that place which you hold, took up the main business of a session; by way of supposition, if that should happen again, were it proper for you to be in the chair? For who then will be so much concerned ? — Moves for a Speaker, pro tempore, and it is very incongruous you should sit when so immediately concerned. Sir Tho.Clarges thinks what has been said so rational, that he cannot think that any man ean be against it: we entrust you with all our werets; and in your predecessors times, no Speaker had liberty to go to conrt, without leave: it is the Order, that when any reflection is upon a member, lie stands up and speaks his defence, and retires/ and would have it so now. Sir Wm. Port man. What we say here can be no secret among 400 men; persons in tb* Hall know what we do: craves leave, that precedents, out of Hack well's book, of Speakers being privy counsellors, may be read. Si r Joseph Tredenham. Former ages have known none more fit for Speakers than privy counsellors:sir John BushelJ, who was favourite to Rd. ii. was Speaker of all the parliaments, in his time: sir Tho More, in 14 Hen. viii. In 4 Mary, Cordell, a privy counsellor: has it ever been objected that a privy counsellor cannot be a parliament-man? We have often made use of privy counsellors to send messages by to the king: the eyes of all the kingdom are upon our actions; it is a mark of the king's favour, that you are in the chair: would have it referred to a committee, bat not you to quit the chair, that being a yielding of the question. Sir John Birkenhead. 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Sir Rob. Howard. Without a thorough care, we shall be in a worse condition for Religion than before: the destiny of a heretic determines what they will do with us: would have have such a Test fitted for nothing but what the Papists may reject; it is necessary, that where any fountain is, it may be pure; and be would have the Protestant Religion pull up the very roots of Popery, wherever they grow; would have it reach all under the notion of Protestants, and be caculated for Popery only. Mr. Cheney thinks that his motion is well improved; he would have former laws for Popery inspected. Sir Nich. Carea thinks it will be too great a clogging the bill, but would have it so as to clear the house of lords, and the court, of Papists. Resolved, " That a Bill be prepared for a General Test, to distinguish between Protestants and Papists: and those that shall refuse to take it, be incapable to enjoy any office, military or civil; or to sic iu either house of parliament; or to come within five miles of the court." Debate on refusing a Supply.] Oct. 31. Mr. Boscauen. In the king’s Speech there is ‘money' in the first place, and money’ in the last; all money :’ therefore would have it debated in a grand committee. Mr. Cheney. Has heard that the Dutch have some thoughts that we might come into the peace immediately; then there can be no necessity for money: moves, that if the Dutch do not, in some time, agree to an honourable peace, that we may supply the king:it is in vain to give money, if not applied to the purpose we intend it: before any thing of money be, moves tlmt wc may come to this vote, ‘ that if, in two months time, the Dutch come not to an honourable peace, we may assist his majesty as becomes us." Mr. Suchtvercll has ever understood, that giving of money ought to be debated at a committee of the whole house, where we may lay open our grievances, which are very many, with the more freedom. Sir John Duncombe. It has not been usual to gi* into a committee, without directions iron* the whole Unuse: for Religion you have proceeded very prudently in: cannot but aduse 593] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles II. you to make peace at home; people .will quiet their passions best with calming all at home, if men could be satislied, and not afraid of their own good:would now go into this business of Religion:that burns in every man's heart, and he sees every man’s face full of it, and that is the beginning of the king’s Speech. Sir Tho. Meres. There are Orders remaining upon your books, and practice: says, upon search of ancient orders, that the king’s Speech was ever debated in a grand committee:agrees with Duncombe, if we may not be surprized with rash votes, that the house may rectify what surprize we may have upon us. Sir John Afonson.In the French Gazette the Pope approves of the progress of the French amis; the last tight was, as if the English and Dotch had been the gladiators for the Krench spectators *: if the prince had been well seconded, there had been an end of the war, and the Dutch must have begged a •peace of us: we gave two millions to set out but part of a navy for a summer: what greater encouragement can be given to the Dutch ? Our native commodities give no price; want of coals make us want fire, and floods have destroyed grass and hay:fire and water against us! We have want of people; many are sent away, and he will say nothing of the end for which they are sent; therefore moves against a Supply. Mr. Sec. Coventry. If the king had wasted his treasure for magnificent buildings, or palaces, would be against giving money; but if, for not paying some few taxes the nation may be lost, would have gentlemen consider of it:avers that the Dutch have not made any proposition, only a piece of one, for the Flag; ’ and ‘ if we will quit the king of France, they will then tell us more, and they are allied with the king of Spain, and Lorrain1, and cannot agree without them.’ You yourself, sir Cha. Harbord, have been obliged by the Hollanders; he has served there under them in their army, and boooors the Orange family before any, next to that of his own^prince, and loves the country; but consider they have provided a great fleet against the summer, and you will give no money, and so have no fleet; which way will you secure the plantations and Tangier? If you think they will give peace, it will be such a one then as to a people they contemn:if you come upofi a vote of ‘ no money, ’ it will be as fatal as that of the Long Parliament, of ‘ no farther Addresses to the king." Were a man jealous of his wife, would he. make her poor and naked, and force her to pat herself into the arms of another man ? Concludes this vote to be the most fatal blow you can give the nation. * A desperate engagement bad happened with the Dutch, on the 11th of August, in which the brave sir Edw. Spragg lost his Life; while the French remained quiet spectators, disobeying, or pretending not to understand, prince Rupert’s orders. VpL. IV. 1673. — Debate on refusing a Supply. [594 Lord Cavendish. Here is money asked of us to carry on a war we were never advised about, and what we have given is turned to raising of families, and not paying the king’s debts:there is so little fruit of the Addresses of the last session, that we now find greater Grievances, ns articles of war and martial law: the nation’s interest is laid aside for private interest:supposes that what we gave the last session may be a suflicient Supply for the war, and moves for a negative against Money. ’ Col. Slrangways. It is a sad condition we are reduced to, and who have reduced us to it is a secret not yet come to his knowledge, and in due time may be considered:if you shall pass negative votes, what advantage do you give your enemies in such a vote ? Are you sure you shall have peace? Would never have the king hold his crown of the king of France: desires we may not depend for our security either upon France or Holland: the Hollanders are a trading and a subtle people, and would have a fleet set out: he aims at this; begin with Grievances and your liberty: France has entangled us; the public articles are ill enough; what are then the private articles ? We are to provide 60 ships, and the French 30: if the house does not assist the king, then the French come upon us for breach of articles: in a parliamentary way consider first ‘ Grievances, ’ and then Money.’ The house of commons keeps the purse; and never put the question for Money, ’ before you know what you shall have for it: but is against a negative question. Sir Tho. Lee. When you gave away so* much money, then began the alliance with France, and no debts paid, though money given for it: the Dutch were not the aggressors in the last war, when we were weary of fighting alone; now the French are weary of us, and will fight alone; when we gave money for a fleet and had pence without it! Now we are the support of the crown of France, England may be as necessary to France as other countries, and so they may conquer us: the kingdom is ever safe when money is in our purses; we may have occasion to use it perhaps, to defend us against France:must we give 5 millions more to have what we might have had without it? Must money be given both in war and peace ? Concurrent aids were never before beard of, money having been the foundation of our Grievances to raise a Standing Army; the marine regiments paid to this day; now, instead of five-pence, they take six-pence for their quarters:France once would invade' us, and now is our frieud. Still mure men are raised; so many in a company are, indeed, disbanded, but the officers remain. This is your Standing Army, and it is Money still that maintains this army: 50 percent, upon our goods in France, and yet the war with Holland upon account of trade: money for league, and no league, war and peace: moves to have the kingdom once free from taxes. Sir Rob. Howard, is sorry to hear this ques- 2Q 595] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles IT. tion moved for in the negative; this will utterly shiver all our hopes in this Vote:consider the arguments; to maintain an ill Alliance we have brought about the French alliance to us, whilst united to Holland, and both navies were against us: religion is not the case, but interest: if money be ill managed, anybody may see it; he (as Secretary to the Treasury) will give an account of it, and ask no time to do it, registers being all in older; the money all gone out to public uses: you must have the nation poor if we have peace, if we give no money: what will the Dutch say to this negative ? Will you shake the king in it ? You say the Papists have power; by this you give more way yet to have it; they have their counsels to give the king by such a Vote:we are going now to make a purchase, and before we get our religion and properties by this purchase, we throw away all by- this vote: he must be a God that can say, ‘ there shall be no enemies, and we shall have peaceand yet we do so by this negative:let not the w ord of king and people be lost noiv — Seek ye first the kingdom of Heaven/ settle Religion, ‘and all things will be added Go in a parliamentary way for Grievances and Religion, and tliiuk of this vote last. Mr. Sachet well. Is one of those that think giving of Money one of the greatest Grievances: it seems to him, that those villainous counsellors, that persuaded the king to make this war, have deceived him in this speech; do Hot they know of the unpaid taxes granted the last session, with the prizes and the customs ? It seems to him like the first design:these gentlemen would lor e only a Rank, that they niay, carry on their design, and use you no more: he ubhors it: it was said before, Give money, and Grievances shall be redressed :’ this army is so insolent, that they may turn you out of doors: if redress of Grievances be an argument for Money/ you will never want ‘Grievances will you not heighten France, by giving more money, and make him more friends, that he may at last have Dominion at Sea, which we now contend for ? And, by this negative, we may deliver ourselves both from France and Rome. Sir Jtlltab Harvey. Giving of money now is eertainly to ruin king and kingdom: give money, and you destroy the revenue of the nation, wool: you are letting the king of France be the merchant of the whole world:by fallingout with Spain, wespoil the best trade we have:he has kept 100 men at work upon the woollen manufacture, and now cannot keep one: will you set the woollen manufacture up in France ? Lose the Straits trade, and you must land all your commodities at Marseilles, and bring them over land, and so France and Holland will out-trade you, by the great expence we must be at by inland carriage. Mr. Bcnnct. Both at home and abroad people would be glad of this negative:he has much to do in the world, and knows the poverty of the nation; but would not have it 1673* — Debate on rejusing a Supply. [596 thought that we are unable to raise the king money. Sir Wm. Coventry is as unwilling to give money for the maintenance of this alliance as any man, it being destructive both to trade and religion: what probability is there, if we beat the Hollander, that we shall get all trade? But it is industry and parsimony, nnd by underselling us: suppose we beat them, wlmt think ybu they will be beaten hither ? The last summer but one we beat them low enough, but with all the invitation that could be given them, fetv of them came hither; you may beat them into France, Sweden, or Denmark; any where but here:who will come to us, thu9 divided, as we are, in jealousies, and fears of Popery ? He thnt knows least, has most fears: a stranger knows not what you have in your heart: we all know that we shall not stay if Popery prevail:pray God they will let us go away alive, considering the Inquisition ! He has said enough to give reason for his negative for ‘ Money/ The Hollanders, in all reason, had better have no quarrels. But upon the king of France’s account, if we leave him, his difficulties will increase: it is strange that we and Holland should be divided by one, whose interest is destructive to us both: when we go by ourselves, we may have a fair peace in alt probability, going upon a pure national account: would not have it out of the house’s power to assist the king:he is not £0 confident of the Hollanders good-nature in a peace, but doubts not, but upon Money granted upon good grounds, we may be sure of a peace; yet for all this he is not for money. Sir Henry Capel.* If this war was for the maintenance of the crown and nation, would venture all he has, life and fortune, for it:he is descended from one thnt lost his life for maintaining of both:would know how we came into this war, before we give money to it: is not for giving money for the war, but not for a negative ‘ no Money; ’ and doubts not but the king will redress our Grievances. Sir Hoi) Carr moves to proceed in a parliamentary way:proceed to your Grievances/ (if you hare any) nnd the king will give you redress. [Laughed at.] Lord Cornbury. Here is now a question proposed, and he agrees with Coventry's question:it will he wondered that he should be against money:9ome men have been under prejudice forgiving votes, and that may possibly be a Grievance: all he has is from the king, and he would willingly give it again, if he calls for it; he has begged for the king, and wanted for him, and would willingly do so again:Carr says ‘ if there are any Grievances / he wonders at it, when so many have been opened to you:the last tax could not be anticipated; • Second son of lord Capel, (who was beheaded for his loyalty to Charles I, in 1648) and brother to the earl of Essex. He was' created lord Capel, of Tewkesbury, in 1698, ' and died lord lieutenant of Ireland, in 1696. 597] PARL. HISTORY, Charles II. besides the customs, excise, and the prizes: some cannot gee their money due to them, glad to be content with halt*; those that have interest get all:would vote, (that Money be not considered till Grievances are redressed/ Mr. Garrotcay. liuin of trade, loss of reli- gion, uo Grievance ! Papists’.threaten us in the very lobby, to our faces; soldiers raising money; a war; the French king broke the Pyrenean league, conquered Lorrain, the king of Spain's country, en passant, nftd this a good Alliance! And now the question, whether money or no Money to maintain this League, and no enquiry made into what remains of what we have already given — Lands turned into our hands, (afc it is his good fortune) and no Grievances neither ! As to our sea war, the French give us money, and they come to see how we light for it: one clapped up in the Bastile fdr lighting :* where will there be an end of the French conquests ? If any fleet be to be set out, we may do it time enough:moves, 4 That till this tax be expired/ (which will be August first) 4 we may give no Money; * and then, if occasion be, would give, but till then, would not. Sir John Hotham comes from a place so impoverished, [Beverly] that it is impossible to raise money there, and that place is much impoverished by soldiers already; they quarter there in private houses, and one person was fined, because he would not render Iris bouse and bed to tire soldiers:you have now an army, and it is grown a principle amongst them, (an ill nursery for young nren) that parliaments are roots of rebellion, and Magna Charta sprung out of them:money is the way to continue these persons, and no money, to disband them; therefore is against money. Mr. Attorney Finch, is ofopinion that there are grievances, and never expects such a healthful constitution in the body politic, thnt shall he so equally poised, as to he without theip: 4 not to give money’ is at this time a grievance not to be redressed in many ages: this is an English war, and no other: they are not afraid, in Flanders, of the Protestant religion, because joined with a Protestant army:would treat this matter with more temperament; surely, for the honour of our prince, we must not treat crowned heads here, in alliance with us, as if they were our enemies: if we have but good trade, the Dutch presently make war with that prince, in alliance with us, that we may have no trade with their enemy; commends much the piety of this, but sees not the policy:you are now in war, and you carry tiie purse: supposing it such, and the alliance, as is said, yet in the condition we are in, it is absolutely necessary to support the war to the utmost of . In the sea fight of the 11th of August, the French rear admiral Martel, who was not in the secret, fought in earnest; for which, at his return to Paris, be was committed to the Bastile, and the relation of the battle, which he had prepared, was suppressed. l6f3. — Debate on refusing a Supply. [598 our power, the king being engaged with a prince who has punctually observed articles:suppose us weary of the war, yet the king of France is actually engaged with us, and has remitted many articles that would have obliged the king to much ex pence: the war we cannot get out of with a prince loving his honour above his life; you may make it an un-prosperous and a ruinous war, but yon can not make it cease to be a war; you may dishearten all the soldiers that are to go over, but if you make the chariot wheels drive heavily, yet they must drive on, if the king please to command it: if that war was now to be made, the discourse would be roost seasonable; but now will be ruinous, and wiser men than lie think so: the king may engage in a war, but when his people shall storm him out of it, the hour will come that his enemies wish for; for the Dutch will now be upon greater terms, having ever desired such a storm as the king could not allay: it is all one to the king whether his designs be checked at home or abroad-: is this agreeable to this house, wherein there is scarce a inan that has not bled for the crown ? moves, that whatever is grievous, either in church or state, we may go upon, with all calmness and temper, and to do the king that honour (if with submission lie may s»y it) that one day may be for ‘ Grievances, ’ and the ofher for Supply/ hand in band, that the world may sec you neither neglect the king nor yourselves. Mr. Fowle. We see priests daily admitted into the king’s presence, and our Address (as he is informed) is but lately sent into Ireland:a Papist major general acting in disguise:has not one told you (sir James Smith) that he sat in a council of war when the military articles were agreed to ? pressing against so many statutes, may reach ^rour members, and the peers themselves: and1 this army has done nothing but the famous expedition from Blackheath to Yarmouth*: shall never think that privilege of parliament is not violated as long as a privy counseller sits in the Chair f: members represented to the king in an ill sense for what they have said here: he that was the contriver of the Declaration J, made lord privy seal, the third office in the kingdom, and another ||, as much concerned, made chief governor of Scotland:this is to bring in Popery in triumph: would be glad to see promises made in parliament, once kept in intermissions of parliament: he cannot go so far in the question proposed, as not to give any farther Supply till ten months; but at this time cannot give his consent to supply. • 44 Part of the summer about 6000 troops were encamped at Yarmouth, under the command of count Schomberg; from wheucc it was understood that they might easily be wafted over to Zealand, as soon as the allied fleet had cleared the sea of the enemy." Ralph. f Reflecting again on the Speaker. See the Debate on that subject, p. 539. t Earl of Anglesea. || Duke of Lauderdale. 599] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles II. Sir Thos Meres. With the length and expatiating on an argument oftentimes the edge of a thing is iost: you will he sure to have Grievances, if that be doctrine, that money must be given when grievances are redressed:if that money, twice given in a session, be not unparliamentary, yet there are 1, 200,000l. granted in a year: has seen so often Grievances pressed, and so seldom redressed, that be uovv has little hopes of having it; but it may he answered, we will i»e redressed first; but have we not seen people’s spirits are a little wearied with long sitting, and that a few redressed pleases us ? in short we are the best-natured house of commons that ever sat: consider what we do about Popery, in the lords house, by putting out popish lords, a matter of inheritance, which will have conference upon conference, and we under great disadvantages:it was said, that Popery was but the handle for the ambitious and covetous, in 1641, to raise sedition: when we speak of a Standing Array, we are answered, ‘ cannot the king raise what men he pleases?’ and to the French league, * cannot the king make leagues?' Yet the gentleman saidj ‘ the king cannot have Money without the house of commons: what war can the king make, when the house of commons shall storm him out of it ?’ To which thus he ' answers: In such great wars as this, and in most Wat's, the kings of England have advised with their parliaments; believes that it might be the king’s intention to do so, however advised to the contrary; we owned not the war in the last tax:the king may make war, but the house of commons may or may not give money: other Grievances there are, as Evil Counsellors; to which it will be said, cannot the king ebuse his own servants ?’ And that is plausible. Should these things be amended, he would give money. Mr. Stock.dale.If we were able, as we are not, it is not now a time to give at all: the question is a single question, Whether money or no money, till this tax be out? ’ Sir Tho. Lee. This question is for the king's service now, more than ever:has great reason to believe, that the king needs it not; because one has told you (Mr. Attorney) ‘ that the king of France has released several chargeable articles in the treaty as for the carrying on the war, we look upon it os a Grievance. * The parliament may talk, say the people, but still you give money: fears not proroguing for not giving; but if you show yourselves willing to give no money, the king will be restored to the affections of his people, when they shall sec that grievances are redressed without giving of money. Mr. Secretary Cirven Nothing is so wise nor so obligatory to the king, as to redress Grievances without giving money; but ns far as he is master of his own life, he had rather lose it, than you should pass this negative vote. Mr. Garrouuiy. Coventry tells you how the French have conquered; but now the case is 673. — Debate on refusing a Supply. [600 altered, it might have been wished the Tripartite League had stood:Is sorry for the Attorney’s expression, of being stormed out of a League:’ The prince of Orange will be a good advocate to keep the Hollanders in war with the French, that he may he continued general; but would never have such a peace as the French shall assign us: We are more put to the blush about redress of Grievances, than for any other thing; those that have been the promisers have been the opposers: The proroguing will do us as much good as it did us a prejudice, and, if need be, we may be suddenly sent for again: Is for the question. Mr. Howe f is dis-satisfied with the person that is to have the money in his hands, the Speaker. Sir Tho. Clarges cannot apprehend such an imminent necessity of giving, as Solicitor North says there is:The remaining taxe9, the customs, the revenue, and prizes, and for one reason above all, viz. 400, 004)/. given away in donatives:Does not repine at the king’s bounty, but apprehends no necessity of giving by it: Thinks that the counsels, uow prevalent, design the ruin of the king, the duke, and the kingdom; the Irish Grievances not sent away above ten days ago; priests and the lord almoner at court; 1500 and 2000 guineas given to officers disbanded; 13, 14, 20 Popish officers taken in, and the French regiments filled with them, and some ordered not to muster, to prevent discovery: Acts of parliament can do nothing; as these men have, notwithstanding, taken up arms: It looks like treason in levying war without commission: When he was at Paris, the Holland ambassador told him, *You have broken your faith with the Bankers; France an absolute monarchy, and you a limited one; no help nor advantage by your alliance:" The Chancellor is keeper of the king’s conscience, and the treasurer, of his word: the Bankers broken, and Exchequer shut up, in Jan. and we to meet in March: they have persuaded the king to ask to pay the Bankers, and they are already paid, by the sale of the free-farm rents, 600,000l. — Subsidy, excise, law-bill by this — Where shall we find treasure to supply these exorbitances: these evil counsellors intercept all the king’s goodness; no good is to be hoped for till they be removed: it was insinuated that the last Supply would give us peace in a few months; we * M The Triple Alliance between England, Holland, and Sweden, was formed in 1668. The design of it was to support the Spanish monarchy, restrain the exorbitant power of France, oud prevent a dreadful war, in which all Europe would probably have been involved. It wav therefore generally applauded, and seemed to be, in alf respects, the wisest mea-. sure that was taken in England during the whole reign of Charles ii." Smollet. ' t Brother to sir Scroope Howe, and Paymaster General in the reign of queen Anne, lie died in 1721. 601] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles II. 1673. — The Commons refute a Supply. [602 then considered net the war, nor the alliance: our duty to the king overcame all those enquiries; and since there appears no want of money, put the question at the largest extent, as first moved. Sir Tho. Littleton cannot imagine that such consequences as are alledged will attend the putting the question, as penned, with the words retained in:is persuaded that, if an effectual course be taken, as things change, men’s-minds will change, and is not so terribly afraid of it: nor so dismal a vote but us happy. Sir Edw. Dering. By whose hands are we tied but by our own ? Should we be tied by any other, we cannot go back with honour, nor forward with safety. Mr. Boscatuen would make no other use of the Vote but in order to peace: the great grievances have been by pretence of the war, the rest but trivial: the war, at the first, was against the advice of the whole body of the merchants, only some particular men that had losses: thinks the peace a good peace, and the Triple League much for the satisfaction of the nation: some trifling injuries were done to the merchants at Surinam; as if a man, with a flea on his forehead, would strike it off with a beetle:would make use of that Vote, that we might have a peace: it is better to deny an aid to the war than to meddle with a peace: we never deny money when there is a just occasion for it; it were to deny self-preservation. Sir Wtn. Coventry hears it said, ‘ that the king cannot go off with honour from his alliance with Franceand what then shall we say of the Triple Alliance, that the peace of Christendom was so much concerned in, so solemn, as to be sworn to by the king of France, and registered in the parliament of Paris by that king’s command, but yet renounced by him, because not consistent with the good of his people: Munster made a war with our money; it was not for the good of his subjects, it seems, and he made peace with Holland: the same did Branddnburgh: the king of France, by the Pyrenean treaty, was not to assist the king of Portugal; it was not for the good of his people, and he broke that treaty; Princes have ever done it for the good of their people, and if we live by another rule than they do, we shall have the worst of it; Now has the king of France kept treaty with us, as is said? Knows not what the private articles were, but surely they were made unfortunately, that we should have no share in this conquest; has he kept hfe word with us ? He was to send 30 ships for onr 60; had that conjunction been as it should be, they would have fought; has heard but of two captains killed in the French fleet, and one died of an unfortunate disease (the Pox); ' thinks we had no advantage by their company. One unfortunate gentleman did fight (Martel) and because that gentleman said, fas he has heard) That the French did not their duty, ’ he is clapped up into the Bastite. His own squadron/ he said, de- serted him; ’ his captains said, upon secret orders, which they had*.’ D’Estrees sent positive orders not to fight, unless by word of mouth, or by writing; and if that man that brought them, had been knocked on the head, no orders could have been had; no regard to be had to prince Rupert’s signals/ (which is the custom at sea) D’Estrees must, by a council of war, know whether the prince’s orders were good orders or no; ’ could a fleet coming with such orders, ever be serviceable to us ? Thinks it better we had no fleet; thinks nut so highly of the Dutch, nor meanly of ourselves, but that we may do well without the king of France r an indifferent casuist will say, haring been so used, that we are absolved from an alliance so ill maintained; the interest of the king of England is to keep France from being too great on the continent, and the French interest is to keep us from being masters of the sea; the French have pursued that interest well; moves to insert in the Question, unless it shall appear that the obstinacy of the Dutch shall moke a supply necessary. ’ Mr. Garrozcay. Spain says, ‘ have peace with England, and war with all the world we lost 1G00 ships in the last Spanish war, great and small: as for Duncombe’s argument of building ships futurely, money may be had; the F.ast-India Company had it at per cent, for the prizes; you may bate a short Bill for the remainder of the last Supply, which is not at all engaged to any other use. Sir Tho. Littleton doubts not but redress of Grievances will alarm the Dutch more than any Supply we can give. The Commons refuse a Supply.] It was then resolved, " That this house, considering the present condition of the nation, will not take into any farther debate, or consideration, any Aid, or Supply, or Charge upon the subject, before the times of payment of the 18 months Assessment, Sec. granted last session, be expired: unless it shall appear, that the obstinacy of the Dutch shall render it necessary; nor before this kingdom be effectually secured from the dangers of Popery, and popish counsels and counsellors, and the other present Grievances be redressed." The Commons Second Address against the Dukfs Match.] Mr. Powle reported from the Committee the Address to be presented to his * Dr. Campbell, in his Lives of the Admirals, has preserved the conclusion of Martel’s relation of the battle; which, it seems, had found its way to England, and was published in a piece called, ‘ An exact Relation of the Actions of the Fleet under Prince Rupert, printed anno 1673/ and was to this effect; " That if count D’Estrees would have fallen in with a fair wind upon De Ruyter and Bankert, at their first engaging, when in numbers they much exceeded the Prince, they must of necessity have been inclosed between his Highness and D’Estrees; and so the enemy would have been entirely defeated." (K)3] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles II. 16/3. — A Standing Army voted a Grievance. [604 majesty, concerning the Match between his royal highness the duke of York, and the princess of Modena; which wns agreed to by the house, and is as follows: " We your majesty’s most humble and loyal subjects, the commons, in this present parliaments assembled, being full of an assurance of your majesty’s gracious intentions to provide for the establishment of Religion, and the preservation of your people in peace and security; and foreseeing the dangerous consequences which may follow the marriage of his r. h. the dqke of York with the princess of Modena, or any other person of the popish religion, do hold ourselves bound in conscience and duty to represent the same to your sacred majesty; (not doubting but those constant testimonies that we have given your majesty of our true and loyal affections to your sacred person, will easily gain a belief, that these our humble desires proceed from hearts still full of the same affections towards your sacred majesty, and with intentions to establish your royal government upon those true supports of the Protestant religion, and the hearts of your people) with all humility, desiring your majesty to take the same into your princely consideration, and to relieve your subjects from those fears and apprehensions which at present they lie under from the progress that has been made in that Treaty. — We do therefore humbly beseech yourmaj. to consider, That if this Marriage do proceed, it will, be a means to disquiet the minds of your Protestant subjects at home, and to fill them with endless jealousies and discontents, and will bring your majesty into such alliances abroad, as may prove highly prejudicial, if not destructive, to the interest of the very Protestant Religion itself. — That wc find, by sad experience, that such Marriages have increased and encouraged Popery til this kingdom, and given opportunity to priests and jesuits to propagate their opinions, and seduce great number of your Protestant subjects. — And we do already observe, how much that party are animated with the hopes of this Match, which were lately discouraged by your majesty’s gracious concessions in the last meeting of this parliament. — That we greatly fear, this may be an occasion to lessen the affections of the people to his r. h. who is nearly related to the crown, and whose honour and esteem we desire maybe always entirely preserved. — That, for nnother age, at least, this kingdom will be under continual apprehensions of the growth of Popery, and the danger of the Protestant religion. — Lastly, we consider, That this princess, having so near a relation and kindred to many eminent persons of the court of Rome, may give them great opportunities to promote their designs, and carry on their practices amongst us; and, by the same means, penetrate into your' majesty’s most secret councils, and more easily discover the state of the whole kingdom. — And finding that, by the opinions of very many learned men, it is generally admitted, that such treaties and contracts by proxy are dissolvable, of which there are several instances to he produced, we do, in all humbleness, beseech your nmjesty to put a* stop to the consummation of this intended Marriage. — And this we do the more importunately desire, because wc have not, as yet, the happiness to see any issue of your majesty’s that may succeed in the government of these kingdoms; which blessing we most heartily pray Almighty God, in his due lime, to bestow upon your nmj. and these kingdoms, to the unspeakable joy and comfort of all your loyal subjects, who desire nothing more than to continue under the reigns of your majesty, and your roval posterity for ever." Resolved, " That this Address be presented to his majesty, and that the lords of the privy council, members of this house, be desired to attend his majesty, to know his pleasure when he will be attended therewith." A Standing Army voted a .] Nov. 3. In a debate upon Grievances, Sir T. Meres said, several Grievances were enumerated the other day: the next Grievance he thinks fit to propose is that of a 1 Standing Army.’ Some said it was to land to beat the Dutch; but it turned off, it seems, to take Harwich, as you have been told. He has been informed that they are of no service; the king’s treasure is wasted by them, so that aids are asked twice in one year: loves not to be the first man that moves a thing, but would now form you n question, * That this Standing Army is a Grievance.’ The reasons for it: it brings in the hillctting of soldiers, against the Petition of Right: the last session they took 3d. from persons to be exempted from quartering soldiers, and now it is raised todd. not only in inns, and alehouses, but in private houses (a man’s house is his castle) contrary to the privileges of the English subjects: you are told also of Martial Law, made for the governing these men, against all the laws of England. Martial law has arbitrary principles and arbitrary power: we like not these arbitrary principles in any councils: this army has the youth of the nation; it debauches them, and fills them with such principles, that towns by them are debauched; common violences they commit. Besides the French League and Evil Counsellors, ’ this is still a terror in our fears of Popery:if any one of these are left out, it will help to set up the other three: asks, at last, That this may be voted a Grievancethe others are grievances/ but the army is a Legion :’ and, to follow the metapho^ hopes they shall not be choaked in the sea/ nor cast away beyond sea, to support this alliance, but disbanded. Sir Eiiab Harvey knows of abundance of petitions that will be presented you against these men:if you send them abroad, they must be turned Catholics, and so many seut us back again:hopes you will vote it ‘ a grievance. ’ Mr. Sec. Corentryt would have you agree 605] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles II. lC? Slbnding Army voted a Grievance. [60(5 upon terms, what is an Army, * and what a Standing Army, ’ knows not why they are called Legions, ' for among the Romans a legion was a band of 2000 men:he is unwilling that his country should be exposed; but now you are in a war, thinks not that you intend that the king should fall down, and beg a peace of Holland: (hey know what your trained bauds are, since the business of Landguard point: for the king to raise troops is not against law, hut fur those troops to be disorderly is against law; but if such a captain, or company, has done ill without order, it is no general grievance:two vintners killed two gentlemen; shall vintners therefore be n grievance ? Some merchants robbed upon the highway; must all merchants therefore be a grievance ? The gentleman is not well informed about martial law; it is as it ever was: in lord Strafford’s command, and the earl of Holland’s, when he disbanded the Northern army, and those of lord Essex’s army (we may learn of our enemies) these were compared with aH articles, and the best were extracted, and you will find them no French articles': hopes you will not say, it is not in the king’s power to raise men, but let gentlemen show you any disorders owned by authority, and it is another case: but how will you vote this grievance, ’ when there is no illegality in it, only exorbitances of particular persons ? Hopes you will not vote it a Grievance. Sir Tho. Lee thought, that, though the practice of accumulative treason against lord Strafford was condemned, yet his setting up Martial Law was justly disapproved then: The oaths io the articles, he is sure, are not legal: But you are told of vintners and merchants, and that these exorbitances are not allowed; but if we have no grievances till they are allowed by authority, we shall never have any:but they are to have another sort of trial than other men, and that makes them a terror: You have been told this morning, that upon their marches they have been quartered in private bouses in Hampshire, and that they made people bring out their provisions, or they would take them by force in their marches.’ They are taught to believe that they may do it; and should you make this Address to the king, he would find it a grievance’ as well as you: you are now arming the king; nothing disarms him more than these exorbitances: But must these dragoons ride over the sea ? We have no wooden horses to carry them, and by this you give the Dutch great advantage: We had success by the militia in 1588; you bad no army but them at that time: It has ever been the custom, that when men have been thus raised they have been complained of as a grievance, especially we wanting hands and mouths now in the nation; and would now have it voted a grievance. SirRo6. Howard. If there be not an intention of ‘a standing army, ’ which we know not, it is too hasty a vote: would not have any distrust betwixt the king and us, and would give no argument to the king to apprehend it: Present only, an army now in being and no occasion for :’ lay only your duty before his majesty, that it may be a terror to the people, as’ you apprehend, ’ and tread in the easier steps to liipn. Sir Henry Capcl. You have been told how difficult it is for armies and properties to stand together: Is not of that opinion that they ore a security to us at home; knows nothing of affairs abroad: Our security is the militia; that will defend us and never conquer us: our defence abroad is our ships; the seaman’s ay, and peas, and his coarse diet, well given ini: Moves to vpte this army a grievance. * Lord St. John. In the former king's time, a much less thing than this was voted a Grievance; and now an army in our bowels all this summer and no employment for them, and for the county lie serves, [Hampshire] he is particularly obliged to represent it as a Grievance. Sir Tho. Clarges will not say it is fit now to disband them all; but at the conclusion of the Inst war some were made standing regiments, nod fears now, after the war, it will he the same again:but the king is not minded of his promises by those that should do it; he is persuaded that the king would do it, hut forgets it: but the raising money, and 15 or 16 to quarter in a poor alehouse, full of children, is a Grievance. Mr. Hurwood. The king has many things laid upon him that he has not done: the king raised not these men but his counsellors, who have got by these things: How many Addresses against Popery, and yet papists put into command ! He that commands our men in chief is a stranger *, and he next in command a Papist f: Cannot wonder at those persons that have spoke against these things as Grievances. Were he as they, possibly he should say so too; but they cannot think so. We are come to that pass, that no law-can restrain these people; houses taken from us, our lives in danger; he cannot say one has suffered death by them, hut some have been soundly swinged: would vote it a Grievance. Sir Rob.Carr. No man can say, that a Standing Army in a time of peace, was ever attempted: most of the forces were about Norfolk and Suffolk, where the Dutch have attempted landing; Your Addresses formerly were ‘ to disband them, when the war shook! be ended/ and will you now do it ‘ the war in being ?’ It is not for your service. Sir Rd. Temple. The practice of these men is a Grievance. He knows no law that can empower them to raise money; the continuance of them will be more a grievance, and what is an oppression, is a grievance. Mr. Poti’le answers Mr. Sec. Coventry — Whatever body of men are raised for no use, ’ • Count (afterwards duke)Schombeig, killed at the battle of the Boyne, in 1690. t Earl of Feversham, a Frenchman by birth, and nephew to Marshal Turenna. 607] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles II. 1673. — The Parliament suddenly prorogued. [608 are a Grievance; ’ he thinks (the raising them a Grievance' — These forces were not raised for the war, but the war made for raising these people: He is no soldier, but has conversed with such as are, and they hold a descent into Zealand impossible; for the enemy might, at any time, get betwixt them and the land with their fleet, and, if landed, hinder recruits: They are glad that the militia may be useless, and the gentlemen that serve in it are put upon chargeable employments, but in Chatham business were not thought fit to command them: which has been such a discouragement, that many have laid down their commissions: When money or honour was to be got, then they were put out of command: As for the fleet, we are in a naval war, at least we are told so, and hopes it so, but the money is all spent upon land soldiers: You know 'that in your office [the Speaker’s] the seamen are not paid; the money being diverted to pay those landmen. Part of those men are drawp out of Iceland, and the Papists, last session, were grown formidable there: why are they not sent back thither ? We desire them not here, and they want them there: our laws to be thus awed ! The law of England will protect the king: knows not what these men will do; but the veteran bands, at last, chopped, and changed, and sold the Roman empire: the king himself may be no longer king, but at the choice of this army: let the soldiers be paid, and you may have them again when you will: quartering of soldiers, or buying them off, is an intolerable oppression: why should an ale-house-keeper, a subject, buy off his oppressions? Soldiers to present their muskets in the face of a court! Would have it voted a grievance. ’ Col. Kii by. Hears it said, ‘ that these men were raised to no purpose.’ Had you not had landmen, you would have had none to man your guns, and they would have been much put to it; but for our regiment, you might have had no fleet: before you move the king for disbanding, consider how you will maintain the war. Col. Birch. Kirby has given you the greatest reason imaginable for disbanding these men; he calls the men aboard a ship* our regiment; ’ and he commands none of the new raised men:he has ever told you, that this war was against the grain of the people, and then against their interest, and we were prorogued on, till the war was so far entered into that we could not come out of it *. no people can be governed but by perfect love, or perfect fear: we are asked, why this army is a grievance now, and not when we were here last ? We saw not then what we sec now. He saw them at Black heath with their swords drawn; it terrified him then, but, thank God, he is pretty well recovered since he came into the bouse: If this vote makes the Dutch insolent, 1 giving money’ will be the consequence, and then all is well: the great river of Babylon wan out into small rivulets, and that destroyed the city, when nothing else could; so has our money been diverted, lie fears. Would have the Standing-Army voted a Grievance. ’ Rosolved, " That the Standing-Army is a Grievance." Sir Tho. Meres moved that some gentlemen may draw up an Address to the king, showing in what manner this army is a Grievance. A Committee was appointed accordingly. Nov. 3. p. m. Mr. Speaker reported. That in pursuance of their commands, he had read, and presented to his majesty, the Address of the house, concerning his royal highness’s Hatch with the princess of Modena; and that his maj. was pleased to declare, " that it was a matter that he would take into his present consideration, and return a speedy Answer." The Parliament suddenly prorogued.] Nov. 4. After the Speaker, who came not to the house till 10 o’clock, though the house was tlic day before adjourned to eight, had been called to the Chair by a great voice, he at last took the chair; and then sir Robert Thomas moved to take into consideration the business of4 evil counsellors, ’ as a grievance, ’ hinted the other day, and would name one, the duke of Lauderdale*.’ The word was no sooner out of bis * " The duke of Lauderdale had been for many years a zealous Covenanter: but in 1647 he turned to the king’s interest; and had continued a prisoner all the while after Worcester fight, where he was taken. He was kept for some years in the Tower of London, in Portland Castle, and in other prisons, till he was set at liberty by those who called home the king, lie was very learned, not only in Latin, in which he wfls a master, but in Greek and Hebrew. He was a man, (as the duke of Buckingham called him to me) of a blundering understanding. He was haughty beyond expression, abject to those he saw he roust stoop to, but imperious to all others. He had a violence of passion, which carried him often to fits like madness, in which be had no temper. He was the coldest friend, and the violentest enemy I ever knew. He at first seemed to despise wealth; but be delivered himself up afterwards to luxury and sensuality. He was in his principles much against Popery and arbitrary government; and yet, by a fatal train of passions and interests, he made wav for the former, and had almost established the latter; and whereas some, by a smooth deportment, made the first beginnings of tyranny less discernible and unacceptable:he, by the fury of his behaviour, heightened the severity of his ministry, which was liker the cruelty of an inquisition than the legality of justice. With all this, he was a Presbyterian, and retained his aversion to king Charles i, and his party, to hit death [which happened in 1682.]" Burnet. — Many years after his death there was published a translation by him of Virgil’s iEneid, which had been shewn in MS. to Dryden, and from which be has borrowed many lines. 609] mouth but the usher of the black rod knocked at the-door, and-the serjeant gave notice of it to the Speaker, who forbade sir Robert proceeding any farther. * The Kings Speech.] The king made a short Speech to both houses as follows: " My lords and gentlemen; I need not tell you how unwillingly I call you hither at this time, being enough sensible what advantage my enemies both abroad and at home will reap by the least appearance of a difference betwixt me and my parliament; nay, being assured they expect inure success from such a breach (could they procure it) than from their arms. — This, I say, shall, whilst I live, be my chief endeavour to prevent; and for that reason 1 think it necessary to make a short recess, that all good men may recollect themselves against the next meeting, and consider whether the present posture of affairs will not rather require their applications to matters of Religion, * " The Address (agreed to the day before) was to have been presented this afternoon; hut the king disappointed all by coming unexpectedly to the nouse of lords, and ordering the commons to attend him. It happened that the Speaker and the usher both met at the door of the house of commons, and the Speaker being got within the bouse, some of the members suddenly shut the door, and cried out To the Chair! To the Chair !* while others cried, The Black Rod is at the door/ The Speaker was immediately hurried to the chair, and then it was moved, 1. That our Alliance with France was a Grievance. 2. That the Evil Counsellors about the king were a Grievance. And 3. That the duke of 'Lauderdale was a Grievance, and not fit to be trusted or emploved in any office or place of trust. Upon which there was a general cry, To (he Question ! To the Question V But the Black Rod knocking earnestly at the door, the Speaker leaped out of the chair, and the house rose in great confusion." Echard. uWhat a dreadful picture have wc here of the disorders of these times! Though there was sufficient cause for a close enquiry into the state of the nation, and a firm opposition to the favourite views of the court: and though the alliance with France, and the ruin of Holland, were equally inconsistent with the interest and safety of England; yet surely such violence and fury, without any previous remonstrances or endeavours to bring the court to reason, more resembled the turbulence of a faction, than the regularity and decorum of a Senate." Ralph. Next day a sermon was to have been preached before them by Dr. Stillingfleet. And Old-tnixon asserts, " That some time this session, a wooden shoe, such as the peasants wear in France, with the arms of England drawn at one end of it, and those of France at the other with these words in the interval, Utrum horum navis accipe, was laid in the house, near the Speaker's Chair." Vol. IV. [610 and support against our only competitors at sea than to things of less importance; and in the mean while, I will not be wanting to let all my subjects see, that no care can be greater than my own, in the effectual suppressing of Popery; and it shall be your faults if, in your several countries, the laws be not effectually executed against the growth of it. — I will not be idle neither in some other.things which may. add to your satisfaction; and then I shall expect a suitable return from you. And so I shall give order to the Lord Chancellor to prorogue you to the 7th Jan. next." * • " During the interval, Shaftsbury, whose intrigues with the malcontent party were now become notorious, was dismissed from the office of Chancellor; and the great seal was given ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- like. Mr. Sec. Coventry. It will not be found out that men have been sent out of England against their wills: in queen Eliz.’s time, she succoured France, and sent men into Ireland, and no act of parliament for doing it then: never heard of any complaint of injuries done by the soldiers, but it was remedied; but the complaint should be, that such things have been done by authority:’ avers that no such things have been done by the king’s authority: the Articles were the same as in lord Essex’s army, and lord Strafford’s, the best of them extracted, und only to be executed when the army is beyond •ea:when you find a fault, then lny it there:let not the disorders of particular men be thought general: the king has told you what he is willing to do, and pray proceed to the king’s Speech. Mr. Sacheverell. The Articles were published by the king’s authority. Mr. Sec. Coventry. The king’s name may be used, but you will find them by prince Rupert’s authority: they determine with his commission. Sir John Monson. As to the pressing of men in queen Eliz.’s, and Edw. 6th’» time, the 16th of Cha. 1. declared it illegal, and ail act was then particular for the pressing of men fur Ireland: it is said, we have had redress, when complained of, hut we cannot but reflect, with what applause the Triple League was entertained, (that was too great a happiness to enjoy) but what we hare hod since, let every man judge: dates the design from the great persons going into France, and the consequence, shotting up the Exchequer, and the Declaration, which struck at all our laws, temporal and ecclesiastical, and all to countenance Po-perjn the parliament then was by the same band prorogued, that we might not consider Debate on Air. Mullet's reading his Speech. [620 other things:the forces sent out of Ireland, little to be spared there; the joy of the Papists; but an army was the foundation of their joy, which they flocked to, and had commands in: we have had invasion of property; and till grievances are redressed, we cannot proceed any farther:hopes we shall have time to give those persons tliauks who had a hand in the prorogation, declaration, &c. and hopes we shall be rid of popery and popish counsellors. Mr. Sec. Coventry does say be did not exempt Grievances, when he moved for the consideration of the king’s speed). Mr. Russel. You have had so exact an account, that he has little farther to say of our deplorable condition:with an ill prince we must pray and suffer, but tv hen God has blessed us with so good a king, and yet property, religion, and all invaded, tve ought to find out the authors of our misfortunes, the ill ministers about the king, that prorogued the parliament; stopped the proceedings of the courts of justice; broke Articles, in that attack of the Smyrna fleet; shut up the Exchequer: have Pensions from France, and accuse us of being Pensioners to Holland:desires uot their ruin but the security of our lives and fortunes for Lhe future. Debate on Mr. Mallet's reading hit Speech.] Mr. Mallet read a long speech. Sir Cha. Harbord takes him down to order. The precedent of reading a speech is dangerous: the attorney, now Lord Keeper, reprehended him once only for making use of heads in a paper; pray never let speeches be read iu parliament. Sir Tho. Lee. Mallet was irregularly interrupted:if his memory be not so good as others, lie may be indulged to make use of his paper, and ivould have people write what they lutend to speak. Mr. Garroicay. It may be Mr. Mallet can- not contract his notious as other men can do, and he would have him read his speech: you may but wink and it is the same thing. Sir Rob. Howard. Reading all and reading some is the same thing, and he believes he has almost done, as be observes, by the paper in his hand. Sir li’/n.Lewis. The best reason he has yet heard for his going on, is that he has almost done:’ it may be without doors ill reported, not to let him make an end; though lie is not for reading of entire speeches, yet short notes are always commendable; he may go on for this time, but hopes you will not admit it for the future. Debate on Grievances.] Col. Birch. Is glad to see how merrily we begin, and hopes we shall continue so; it is the great part of an orator to persuade, but hopfes, as paper speeches may be laid aside here, they may also be in other places (the pulpits): we have leave to debate our own security by the king’s and the lord keeper’s speecli, and therefore will open our present condition; doubts not but the king will at last find, that they who advise him to Hollow the 621] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Cn aults II. 1673-4. — Debate on Grievances. [625 parliament’s counsel are his best subjects; the Grievances, as to law, have been opened very well, and the remedy, in some part; but thinks all in vain, if, by any means, we are. incited to carry on this lengue with France, and war with Holland; and because of the second article of the treaty with France, the setting up the Catholic religion in every conquered town in Holland/ if we must go on in that union, leaves it to every man’s conscience in the consequence:would not do by day, what he shall be ashamed of at night, that his conscience shall give him the lie: how we entered into this war he remembers: the Triple Alliance we thanked the king heartily* for; how We came out of it, the Instructions will give you an account: the.greatest princes have called fiarliaments to advise in peace and war; but le is still doubting that this parliament w'as prorogued by strong persuasion:what is under the Great Seal is a man’s freehold. We have not had a smile, since the French alliance began, and the second article of that alliance is to set up the Pope; and now we are invited to carry on that war, he cannot consent to it: the consequence would have been, if the French king had continued in his greatness by conquests, we had not been doing here what we do now: either France or Holland must be bigger: if France, we may purchase what we fear; if Holland, they may be too big to grant: would be far from doing any thing derogatory to the king; but when the League is not honourable nor safe for the king, he cannot find arguments to part with our Money for the support of it. Mr. Sec. Coventry would know what it is he should speak to; several things relating to the war [then he paused — was bid go on.] As to the business of the war, he was ordered to tell Sweden, where he was ambassador, that if the king of France invaded any of the Spanish dominions, our king would defend the Triple League: the proposition was, in every town the French should have rendered to them, they should have a Papist Church as we would have a Protestant/ Every man must answer in his turn for his actions, as he must do for his; but would not give an opinion to continue u war against the genius of the nation:hut you have no peace, nor likelihood of any, but what must come from the conduct of this house, which a good Vote will certainly do, he believes: tell the king your Grievances, but so supply him that the navy may go on, which, you know, needs it: and if you put the king into these straits and desperation, what will be the consequence? Now for the Declaration against the French Treaty; being so deserted, Holland will have no need of you. Can any man have the impudence te say, that because you have a treaty with France, you are obliged to fight to the last man ? Secure things in the treaty how you please, that the money may not be attached, and that it may be for shipping (which, under favour, the navy must have): moves that you will propose Grievances, and 1 in the mean time that the kingdom may be se- ' cured. [Mr. Garroway. Secretary Coventry desires [that you would not press the king / wonders j at it: when we were prorogued two 'months, those that advised it ‘ pressed the king/ and j we must postpone all considerations, without consideration of Religion, Property, or Trade: nothing, but wc roust carry on a war we know not how long; let those good counsellors that advised it look after it: did our ambassadors give Holland no security by the Triple League and Breda, that we would not fait on them? We are told, that our w ar will ruin our plantations / since March last we have laid out 300,000l. in freight to strangers; our corn vessels, passing from port to port, taken; some of our great ships swept away by the Dutch; our men pressed for sea and land; the gentleman said, the last session he would warrant a peace with a vote for money/ but now he says otherwise: Londoners are at a tax upon the collier, and in the country we pay five and six pounds per chaldron:the ploughman finds his wants: it is 300,000l. tax to London by proportion, and this is one of the benefits you have by the war, and the effects are upon the counties about London, decay of manufacture! War is a subtle thing; lose a correspondence in trade, and you know not how io get it again; the making bays, a great trade, you have lost by this war; if France can supply Spain with commodities, as they left you in the war so they will do in trade; we employ all foreigners for shipping, and if the war continues, your Act of Navigation will will be of no use; pressing of seamen ! By the last fatal war you saw that the courage of your nation, when deserted by the French, brought you off; the French may serve you so by land; a war at sea will never make an end of the war; grass grew in Middlcburgh streets, now grown rich by depredations this war; is one of those that are for peace, and hopes it is no crime to offer things with modesty; would not depend upon the Spanish ambassador, but upon a war upon the English interest, and never saw want of money or help; cleanse the house at home; know those that have intrigued you; he would not sweep away gentlemen by general Votes; would reach them according to law, and go upon things:the Keeper says in his speech, the fleet is in good readinessmoney remains not paid in of the last tax, prizes, and the advance upon the excise farm; therefore would hare full-enquiry into the state of the kingdom, but not like empirics, to give a catholicon for all diseases; but let gentlemen propose the State of Affairs, and go upon that. Sir Tho. Clargcs. If we had gone on, the last prorogation, things might not have been at this pass; but as those evil Counsellors about the king persuaded him then, they do stiU exasperate him, that ouf best counsels will be perverted; this iB the great grievance:if it be apparent that any sort of men do design the 23] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles II. 1673-4. — dn Grievance*. (624 ruin of the kingdom, so as to prostitute the i king’s word; and if any new treason be en- I acted, would have that made one: it is of j consequence never to be recovered:no exam- j pie that ever any war of this nature began without parliament. Instances Edw. i, Edw. iii, and Hen. v, the miracle of men, that (unless our king) never any of more honour and gallantry since JuliusCsar’s time. Hen. viii. as ambitious, perhaps, as any, young, and though his coffers were full, advised, in the 3d year of his reign, with his parliament, about making of war: the best thing to rivet the king and his people, is mutual confidence. 43 Edw. iii, when lie was to make peace with Scotland with David Bruce, he advised with his parliament:Rd. ii. would not make peace without subjecting his articles to the parliament: hopes, if so now, we shall do it for the king’s honour. We may date a great deal of our misfortunes from the Million Act: submits to all gentlemens opinions here, the universal hatred against this French alliance: we were so jealous formerly of our ports, that no foreigners scarce with a packet-boat were suffered to enter them without leave, hut now whole shoals of them: but it occurs to him, that the alliance with France is broken; all alliances are understood as to circumstances of things when made; it is strange that we should consent to the Popish Article:’ moves to adjourn the house till tomorrow, that we may enumerate our Grievances before we enter upon the debate of Supply: would have the Test law against Popery revived, and some things added to it, and all to take it that are in the king’s counsels, and something for the security of the king’s person; and would have Religion, after the king’s death, secured, and the Statute of Suggestions, for men to undergo a penalty if they make not accusations out; but the first thing to enter upon, would have the Counsellors; ’ we have always gracious Answers from the king, but they are still intercepted:Proclamation against papists, and yet priests are walking in Whitehall in defiance of it; Popish commanders at the head of companies; no minister sent with our companies into France to comfort the sick, and to do other spiritual offices, but exposed to Popery:one man has had 7 pardons for treason and murder; shall we not put such out of the reach of pardon ? the general pardon would not suffice, but special ones must be obtained since that pardon:would go first upon evil Counsellors. ’ Lora Cavendish. When we consider the prorogation, and the other misfortunes of the nation, fears we shall have the same advice as long as such Counsellors’ are about the king: moves in the first place, that we proceed to secure the nation by removing them. Sir John Monton. When Counsellors' have Itardons in their pockets, from murder to petty arceny, what security can the kingdom have ? Therefore agrees with the motions made before. Sir Cha. Wheeler, should be glad that the I king might have some prospect, through this I vote, that, when our Grievances are redressed, we may take his Supply into consideration .* j we carry on all things for the interest of the nation, and assist him upon the public interest of the nation, and no farther. Sir Rob. Howard was sorry for the prorogation when it was, but as the king has now invited and trusted you, make him not jealous of us: the eyes of all the world are upon us now, and should we not do things as amicably as possible, the censures of the people will lie as heavy upon us, as in any other thing: winds up all in this motion, To order an Address to the king to give him thanks for his trust and invitation, and to tell him there remains something as to our security :* no doubt we want many things, but shall we slip by the king in his invitations ? Knows it not iu your hearts, and if Evil Counsellors’ be one thing, and all other things are considered one by one, then you are iu a method. Sir Tho. Lee. The expression of Howard’s of passing by the king, ’ is harsh; the war so long debated'is not a 4 passing by the king. ' Mr. Jones, would always be tender in reflective expressions; he has neither preparation, nor intention, to offer Grievances, but from the greatness of the debate, and the place he serves for, (London) something is expected be should say about their Grievances; he has sufficiently expressed his loyalty in the worst times, but being not a man of trade, knows no more than those that walk the streets speak of: the imposition upon Coals is hard upon the rich, but destructive to the poor: thousands had died for the want of them, but for the favourableness of the weather: he has known London these 45 years, and never knew that impudence in meetings that the Papists have now; they are so in most parts about; a great aggravation of .their insolence and increase, that they attempt meeting where it never was: protections from the lords house, and this, ruin trade, together with shutting up the Exchequer; how can we be secure, that the Exchequer be not stopped tomorrow again f If ruin were at the door, and the nation ready to sink, who will send 100/. thither ? Still the Goldsmiths are postponed; was it their personal concern, would not regard it, but tnou-sauds are concerned in it. The Question being propounded, That the Thanks of the house be returned to his majesty, for his gracious Speech; and the question being put. That the house do now proceed in the debate of that question, it passed in the affirmative, 191 to 139. Resolved. 44 1. That this house will proceed, in the first place, to have Grievances effectually redressed, the Protestant Religion, liberties, and Properties, effectually secured, to suppress Popery, and to remove persons, and Counsellors, popishly affected, or otherwise obnoxious, or dangerous, to the vernment." 2. 44 That the humble and arty Thanks of this house be returned to hit 625] PAUL. IIIST. 25 Charles II. 1673-4.- majesty for his gracious Promises and Assurances in his last Speech, and for those Acts which he has done since the last prorogation, towards the suppressing and discountenancing of Popery; and that he would please to give order for the Militia of London, Westminster, and Middlesex, to he ready at an hour’s warning, and the other Militia of the kingdom at a day’s warning, for the suppressing any tumultuous meeting of Papists, or other malecontent persons whatsoever; anc) that the house will go with this Address to his majesty in a body " Proceedings against the Duke of Lauderdale. Jan. 13. Mr Stockdale. Many Grievances have been represented; the way is now, how you will redress your grievances ? the last session produced many good votes as to that, but we were prorogued; and to the intent that that may not happen again, consider that the same Counsellors are interposing, and interpreting our intentions may procure the same prorogation; therefore moves to begin with the last part of the vote first, viz. Evil Counsellors/ You cannot have Grievances effectually redressed, without removing those that have advised these things, and, when that is done, be perhaps will name one. •Sir Roo. Thomas. We have a great many Grievances; hazard of Religion, Counsellors advising the king to take away religion and properties: must name one; (by the bye, the Black Rod being called in by you, Mr. Speaker, the last session, before be knocked *, he could not do it then) a person that has contributed as much to our misfortunes as any mao; the duke of Lauderdale — You will have proofs of his advice by four of your members; viz. ‘ f Your majesty is bound in honour to justify your Edicts:I wonder at the confidence of any person to deny your majesty's Edicts, apd those persons that do, I think, deserve to be most severely punished ♦./ The act of the Militia in Scotland, which forces are to be in t a readiness to be called to march into England or Ireland, upon any service where the honour, authority, or greatness of the king shall he concerned/ Other gentlemen know more: he has great forces in readiness and pay, and for no other end, he believes, than to awe us. Sir Nich. Carew. We should never have • See p. 609. JTbe expressions mentioned in the Jour-are, " Your majesty's Edicts ought to be obeyed; for your majesty’s Edicts are equal with the laws, and ought to be observed in the first place." t" A gentleman, there present, informed roe, that the king should say to Mr. Penyston Whalley (the person then before the council) * I wonder that you should withstand fny Declaration. I would have you know, that I will be obeyed according to my interpretation of the, law, and not yours; and if you will not I shall put ip .those that w ill/" Urey. Vol. IV. -Proceedings against thsD. of Lauderdale. [6/6 Grievances, but by such ‘'Counsellors:' the duke is at the head of a great army in Scotland; desires that we may move the king, that he may keep there and return no more into England. Sir Tho. Littleton. The words are ready, and desires you will order the gentlemen that heard them, to declare them. Sir Rob. Thomas names sir Scroope Howe, * Mr. Man, and Mr. Rob. Pierpoint f, who beard the words, and lord St. John. Lord St. John. The last session, Feb. he was called to do it, but then refused, because there was a dispute then betwixt the duke of Lauderdale and himself; Mr. Howe, then sick, being concerned for Mr. Whalley, desired him to go hear the business at the ‘Council, where Mr. Whalley (a justice of peace in Nottinghamshire) was summoned, who had committed a preacher, contrary to the Declaration. Whalley was to answer the contempt, the parson had no licence to preach, but entry was made of it in the Secretary's Book; a law bound Whalloy, and a Declaration did not bind him. Lauderdale then spoke the words mentioned by sir Rob. Thomas, that he wondered at the words and said, ‘ Lauderdale may be questioned in parliament/ Some members being present, Lauderdale spoke as before, none else of the Council spoke, and all were bid to withdraw. Sir Scroope Howe averred the words as be fore; Mr. Pierpoint, and Mr. Man likewise. Sir Tho. Littleton. Now you are possessed of this, he shall offer his sense:the last session, we were cut off in the beginning:in Scotland, an army is raised by this great duke; though by act of parliament, yet his power is great, and the army under his power; it is in vain to act here, without converting our thoughts to Scotland. Pray God! this be not ^Jsewherc: a man, so principled and arbitrary ! You had need look about you; needs say nothing to aggravate, the bare thing aggravates itself: a cloud hangs over us, and it is high time it was scattered; it has made Counsellors in England so much the bolder: moves ‘ to address the king to exclude the duke ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- misfortune from this person:will not do a public good for a private revenge: he has heard the same things from Dr. Williams. Mr. Sasheverell. We are not going to hang the duke, nor try him for his life; we only desire to remove him from the king. The question might have been yesterday, but he being too foul, we would not touch him:Wheeler said, affairs are not mended since lord Clarendon’s banishment; ’ but the house is a judge of that, not he; but if this person is not removed, will never move to have any removed more. Sir Thio. Clarges.The duke told you, he had no hand in the French Alliance, ’ and at the^ame time that, he would have had no ships, but townsAverse from the war, and yet would have towns and no ships ! When he told you, (he was not for breaking the Triple Alliance, ’ a thing of great honour! but (for putting most of the towns into the French hands, ’ it was one of the elegancies of speech which men call a Bull: would have leave to sell his placehe has, under the signet, 2, 400/. a year, in compensation of what he has given for the place of Master of the Horse; and yet he affirms he has nothing from the crown: * • See p. 632. 639] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles II. 1673-4. — against the [640 the method we take is by common fame here; the wisest parliaments have taken it before us. Hen. iv. in the case of the Abbot of----his Confessor, removed him for no other reason but for not being loved by the people, though the king knew nothing against him: many more have been removed at the instance of the commons: would not have a hair of his head tooched, but a learned judge (Atkins) said here, in lord Clarendon’s case (about removing him) Was he a young gentleman, and came to town with money in his pocket, and gave it to a gamester to improve it for him by play, and he lost it, believes he should not put another bag into such unlucky hands to play for himwould have the question, * That be is not a man fit to be about the king.’ Whom will you impute your Grievances to? No man will say, to the king; but if such a man’s crimes must be alleviated, he is for the king and the common-wealth: would, perhaps, move you, that no member for the future, whilst parliaments sit, should have the temptation of offices: moves for tiie single question, as before. Col. Sandys has met with a servant of the duke’s, who informs biro, that the duke desires to be heard here again; being under a surprize yesterday, he has something farther to say. ’ Sir Joseph Tredenham says the same. Mr. Russell has no malice against the duke, but would have this question for removing him’ passed; fearing the danger the king and the nation are in, from a knot of persons that meet at the duke’s, who have neither morality nor Christianity, who turn our Saviour and parliaments into ridicule, and contrive prorogations; and would have such persons removed. Col. Sandys remembers that my Lord Keeper Finch desired to be heard, and was heard, but ran away; but the duke has no reason to do so; you have dealt favourably with him: but would hear him; you cannot, it may be, have notice of things without hearing him. Sir Tho. Lee knows nothing of what the duke intends, but he has been at the head of councils, and knows much: the kingdom is in misery, a little knowledge of affairs may bring you to more, and you may at last know the end: he has no design, nor hopes, but to keep his property in the country:pardons, it seems, in parliament have not served the turn:would call in any man that can inform the house. Lord St. John is a friend to no man that gives ill counsels: any in the private Cabal that advised against the house of commons, * to force the house of commons to pass Bills, and, if any refused, to take off their headsf: * See vol. ii. p. 593. t Burnet 6ays, " That sir Ellis Leighton assured him, that the duke of Buckingham, and lord Berkeley, offered to the king, if he would bring the army to town, that they would take out.of both houses the members that made the opposition to the Declaration. Would have these things enquired into: he has been told it by one of the Cabal*. Mr. Sawyer did not expect, yesterday, excuses, from the duke, of his own actions, but discoveries of matters of concernment to the nation, relating to the public; but would not call him in to do the same thing again, only would hare light into those causes that have produced such ill effects. He was called in only for discovery: the house proceeds not by fame of vulgar persons, but upon things as plain as the sun. This new light, a thing called wit, is little less than fanaticism, one degree below madness; of Democritus’s family, he laughs always at all religion and true wisdom:we come hero to take away examples of such things; such as this duke, as great as any. This kind of wit's best ornament is most horrid blasphemy, oaths, and imprecations, which have done more hurt, in a few years, than all the Convents and Jesuits could do in a 100 years:prays, that the duke may not be lieard to matters of excuse, ’ to acquaint you with that which all the world is satisfied in; but confined only to matters of discovery. Mr. Oarroway fears not any thing the duke can say, in excuse’ of himself; he bad little advantage upon us by it yesterday. 1 Sequestering him only from his employments, and the king’s presence, ’ is a gentle way, and would have it done in as gentle words as possible:it is likely he may have been as ill an instrument as any; you have Grievances, but will you not have the causes discovered ? would call him in, and hetar him at large: would liave lord Su John’s question asked the duke, or any other delivered you. Mr. Sec. Coventry. Lord St. John said, one of the Cabal told him, &c.’ would know what the meaning of tlte Cabal is. Mr. Garraaay. That is so great a mystery, that he would know it above all things. Mr. Sec. Coventry. We do things, not voluntarily, but by law; the king's privy counsellors ! and it is perjury for us to reveal: as for the committee of foreign affairs (of which he is the only man of this house) wishes (be rotests to God) that you knew what opinion e has ever given of affairs. Sir Wm. Lewis. The way is to bear him at large, and then propose your questions, and he has time by it to ask the king’s leave to answer: that has been anciently done in these cases. Mr. Powlc commends secretary Coventry for his secrecy. This house has liberty to examine any man, not being a peer, and what he discovers is no breach of his oath; but if this house must take no notice of things, and persons are rescued from punishment, we may be • The Cabal (so called from the initial letters of their titles) consisted originally of Clifford, Arlington, Buckingham, Ashley, (afterwards Shaftesbury) and Lauderdale. Of these, three only, who were now attacked hv the commons, .remained; Clitford being deaJ, and Bhafleahury having made his peace. — See p.451. 641] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles II. 1673-4. — Duke of Buckingham[642 all destroyed. A privy counsellor may do it safely, without bread) of his oaih: in lord Strafford’s case, examination was upon oath of what was done at^ the council-table, and no exception was then taken against it: Cabal is a new word, and what is said there is not said in council, any more than in the bed-chamber; and those few men of the Cabal to encroach upon royal power, as the duke of Ireland did ! would have that question ‘ of the Cabal’ proposed to the duke. Sir Tho. Meres. Cabal’ ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hom?’ What meant by 4, 5, or 6,000l. a year gotten ?’ Who got it ? and by what means tike Triple Alliance was broke?’ ‘The Smyrna fleet set upon ?’. The parliament prorogued? ’ Sir Rob. Holtrit*.He was commanded to fall upon the Smyrna fleet, and has his orders to show from the lord high admiral to do it*. Sir Nieh. Como.* By whoso advice a Frenchman was made general of tiu army, when here raised, ’ another question. Mr. Sec. Coventry. Count Schomberg is far from a Frenchman; his mother was an Englishwoman, and his father a German, lie first commanded the Scots under the duke; and, would he have been a Papist, might long ago have been Marshal of France. Though Ger- * " This perfidious and piratical attempt on the Smyrna fleet, though performed with the utmost bravery and resolution by sir Robert Holmes, and the earl of Ossory, miscarried. Though the Dutch defended themselves with amazing obstinacy, they could not have escaped, (as they did) if sir Rob. Holmes had condescended to impart his design to sir Edw. Spragge, (whom lie met at sea) and desired his assistance. But though sir Robert applied to him for intelligence concerning the game he •ought, he kept the secret, that he might engross the whole honour and profit to himself, and thereby fell into the disgrace of undertaking a bid thing, without having the glitter of good success to gild it over.’’ Ralph. t He was made Marshal in 1676. Vol.IV. many be one country, they are net of one mind in this war; divers princes are now arming in Germany, that will neither obey the emperor, nor the king of France: he came first to marshal Turenne, when he was a Protestant. Sir 1 Vm.Coventry. What was said from the bar, of M. Schomberg, needs not his confirmation. This gentleman might be abler than another than, it may be reasonably supposed, for the king’s service, having served long in Hollaud, and knows the condition of that country: would lay no more weight on this than will be borne:I wish this was our greatest Grievance; the gentleman came only for the command of the army, when intended for foreign service, and when that intention was laid aside, he went away. Sir Tho. Lee is for avoiding all things that give any umbrage or jealousy: it may be thought as. necessary to have a foreign army, * ns to have ‘ a foreign general; ’ they ntny both giie umbrage or jealousy, and therefore would avoid them. Sir Ch. Whcehr does not believe that an English general would serve for such purposes; but a ‘ foreigner* has given us great jealousies and would have that one of the questions. Mr. Love would have it another Question, who advised that the army should be appointed to draw up towards London, to awe tins bouse, to make us vote what they please ? ’ The Duke's Second Speech to the House of Commons.] The Duke of Buckingham was then called in, as before, and spoke thus: " In the first place, I return this hon. house humble thanks for the honour of twice admitting me; especially when I consider, how ill I expressed myself yesterday:consider the condition I am in; in danger to pass for a vicious person, and a betrayer of my country, all the world over. I have the misfortune to bear the blame of other men’s faults. I know that it is laid against me the ‘ revealing the king’s counsels/ ‘ correspondency with the enemy, in time of war, * and having hindered what the Council would have done.’ 1 hope I shall have pardon, if I speak truth for myself. I told you, that, if the Triple Alliance had advantage in it, I had the honour to have as great a baud in it (I speak it without vanity) as hny man: then upon the French ambassador’s and other intelligence, T had orders to compliment upon the sad subject of Madame*. I thought it for the service of the king, that the French ought not to endeavour to be considerable at sea; we were jealous of them, that the Dutch should make their peace with them, bemuse they had power to conquer. When I * King Charles’s sister, the dutchess of Orleans, who, in 1671, soo ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- arliament, and the affections of the people, that the parliament might join in it; and I believe the king, at the head of his parliament, the greatest prince in the world:this was Shaftsbury’s opinion and mine, but not lord Arlington’s. Then I was of opinion not to make use of the French ships ? but to have half the value of them in money, for English ships, which would have been of more service; the French ships of no use to us, because of no experience, and the use of our seas, learned by them, of great danger to us:lord Arlington was of a contrary opinion. I was sent to Dunkirk to the king of France, Arlington to Utrecht. I endeavoured to have money, instead of ships; at my first audience, the French king was willing to comply with it, hut, after some time, by letters and returns from hence, it was altered. 1 make no reflections, but declare matter of fact. Then lord Shaftsbury and I were of opinion to order the war so, that the French were to deliver towns into our hands; an useful precedent! lord Arlington was of opinion to have no tow ns at all delivered, for one year, and here is the cause of the condition of affairs, with that of the fleet, and the French army let go on to conquer; they get all, nnd we nothing, and agree for none neither; consider who it was locked up with the French ambassador f; my spirit moves me to tell you. When we are to consider what to do we must advise with the French ambassador: I will not trouble you with reports. Look not upon me as a peer, hut ns an honest English gentlemen, who have suffered much for iny love to my country. I had a regiment given me, which was sir Edw. Scott’s: and, not knowing the law of England, I gave him 1, 500/. for it; no Papists, nor Irish in the regiment. I will say nothing of iny extraordinary gains. I have lost as much estate ns some have got, and that is a big word. I atn honest, and when 1 shall be found otherwise, desire to die. A man that has not gotten by ail this. I leave it to yon. If I am a Grievance, I am the cheapest Grievance, after all this, that ever this house had: nnd so humbly ask pardon of the house for the trouble I have given it." Questions put to the Duke: his f Reflecting on lord Arlington. The French ambassador, here mentioned, was M. llou-vigny, a Protestant, whose son was created earl of Galway, by king William, and commanded the Briti?-h forces in Portugul, in the reign of queen Anne. Burnc-t says, " he had the appointment of an ambassador, but would not take the character, that he might not have a chapel, and mass said in it." Then the Speaker told the duke, That he was commanded, by the house, to ask his grace some Questions, if he pleased to make auswer to them/ The duke answered, he was willing/ Question 1. " Whether any persons have, at any time, declared to him any of their advices, or ill purposes, against the liberty of this house, or propounded any ways to him for altering our government; and if they did, what was that advice, and by whom ? An aw. It is an old proverb, .* over shoes, over boots/ This reflects upon one now not living [lord Clifford] and I would have pardon for not naming him, and fear it will he thought a malicious invention of mine. I have said nothing yet but what 1 can justify; but this not. — 2. What his grace meant by this expression yesterday that he had gotten nothing, and that others had gotten 3, 4, and 5,000l.; ' who they were that had gotten it, and by what means? I cannot acquaint you how they got it, because not well acquainted myself with the means of ?jetting money. What the duke of Ormond us got is upon record. Lord Arlington has not got so much, hut a great deal. — 3. By whose advice the army was raised, and Papists set to officer them, and M. Schomberg to be their general? Ansu\ I cannot say ‘ by whose advice/ but, on my honour, not by my advice; but was told by a man that is dead, that lord Arlington sent for him/ and it will be easily proved. — 4. Whether he knows, that any have advised to make use of the army to awe the d ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- red to know, Whether he was pleased to make answer to some Questions he hud in command from the house to ask Ins lordship?’ Who answered, ‘he was willing/ Question 1. " Whether any persons have, at any time, declared to him any of their advices or iil purposes against the liberties of this house, or propounded any ways to him for altering the government; and if t.h<*y did, what was that advice, and by whom? 1 cannot apply this to any discourse I have beard, either public or private. — 2. By whose advice the army was raised, and Papists set to officer them ? Answ. On account of the war there was a necessity of good officers, and the Papist officers, many of them, were represented more skilful; but cannot apply the advice to any person. — 3. Ami that army to awe the debates of this house? Answ. I can say nothing to it. — 4. By w hose counsel and ministry the Triple League was made? AnswIt his been suggested by me. Sir Wm. Temple was the fortunate inan that dispatched it. — 5. Who advised the first treaty with France? Answ. The making that League w as the concurrent opinion -of us all. I did not expect the French in earnest, if some blots bad not happened. — 6. By whose advice the Exchequer was shut up? \ PAUL. HISTORY, 25 Cuarlxs II. 1673-4. — the 657] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charles II. l673-4. — [658 You may easily believe I was passive in it. I can say but suspicions only: many things were proposed, but I have nothing to do with the Treasury. — 7. By whose advice the Declaration for Liberty was made and published ? Answ. It was a concurrent opinion, and, we thought, upon good grounds, and advisable by law; but when found contrary to la*v I detested it. — 8. By whose advice the Smyrna fleet was fallen upon ? Answ. It was a concurrent advice, and 1 cannot apply it to any man’s particular advice. — 9. By whose advice the war was undertaken without advice of parliament? Answ. There was all probability of peace imaginable, and it was ill to show our adversaries any ill distempers, and it was a concurrent opinion. — 10. And the parliament prorogued upon it, in Nov. last? Answ. It is a hard matter to say who was the adviser. I protest, I know not the author of it. I may wrong persons. I have presumptions, but no evidence." — Then his lordship, after saluting the house, withdrew. * Restitution against the Earl.] Alter several long debates upon the above Articles, 'the question . being put, " That au Address be presented to his majesty to remove the earl of Arlington from all his employments that are held during his majesty’s pleasure, and from his majesty’s presence and councils for ever; " it passed in the negative, 166 to 127. It was then resolved, " That the Articles be referred to a committee, and that they report what matter is therein contained, and can be proved, that is fit for an Impeachment." f • " Lord Arlington spoke much better than was expected: he excused himself, but without blaming the king: and this had so good an effect, that though he, as secretary of state, was more exposed than any other, by the many warrants and orders he had signed, yet he was acquitted, though by a small majority. But the care he took to preserve himself, and his success in it, lost him his high favour with the king, as the duke was out of measure offended at him. So he quitted his post, and was made lord chamberlain." Burnet. The Author of his Life, in the Biographia, says, " That it was neither his speech, nor his caase, that brought him oiF, but the personal friendship of a noble person nearly allied to him, viz. the earl of Ossory, eldest son to the duke of Ormond, and then the most popular man of his quality in England, who st>>od for five days, that the debate lasted, in the lobby til the house of commons, aqd solicited the members in his favour as they entered Che house." t Nothing further appears to have been done in this Accusation. " No- greater mistake, " says Ralph, " can be made by the pro-secutqrs of a bad minister, than to charge him ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- he has heurd in this house, that the king cannot commit a man to prison; it is not rea- 1 suitable he should be both party and judge: knows the king is uneasy by it. A man is first committed by a privy counsellor, and a day alter the king’s hand to it. Docs not like it, that all things should resort to the king’s command. If so, all your provisions against it signify nothing. Knows not by what causes and counsels, but put upon the king. The doctrine he has always heard here is, ‘the king can do.no wrong.* It was told you, a person may burn the ships.’ Can tell you of many committed, but where is any one proceeded against ? When he has nothing left, then turn him out of prison, and no man knows what is become of him (the Herefordshire Priest) no man is committed bat cause is shown, and a person found by the lord keeper to prosecute. Sir T.Hyde. A year and a half ago he was scut for by a messenger, and brought to the Green-Cloth, with of his servants. He desired a copy of his accusation. They threatened to lay him by the heels, rf he sued the messenger. lie paid hi. for Mile-money. The term was not in being, and he could not have his Habeas Corpus, nor any remedy, and he fears it again:sir Win. Boreuian, of the Green-Cloth, told him, ‘ you must uut tell us of statute-law; neither lawyer nor you understand compting-houst* law, which is our law.* So he paid his fees for being in custody. Sir Thu. Clarges.More warrants to the Tower under the king’s hand now, than in 200 years before. Would have those that subsign these warrants be answerable for them. — To proceed on the 7th of February. Debate on an Address fur the Removal of the Dukes of Buckingham and .] Sir 663] PARL. HISTORY, 25 Charlls If. 1673-4. — Deputes on Members taking Bribes. [66i Wm. Coventry moves for an Address to the king for the removal of the dukes of Lauderdale and Buckingham. Lord Cornbury is against an Address, es- pecially at this time. If you have no more Counsellors to remove, nor other Grievances to redress, then you may now do it: concerning one of these dukes, for removal there is no reason; would have gentlemen, therefore, to consider whether they have any other poisons to remove, and then resolve, &c. .Sir JViV//. Carew differs from Cornhtirv. Two lords in one Address is enough: Like rods, too many in a bundle, are not easily broken:would take two or three at a time, and hopes at lust to remove all the ill ones. Mr. Sacheverell would not hnve them both in on Address; it is proper for Lauderdale now for maintaining the king’s Edicts/ &c. You cannot sit here on these terms: would assign that for a cause. Sir T/io. Lee would deliver the vote by the Speaker, without any variations or alterations. Sir Tho.Charges would have the concurre nce of the peers, either at a conference, with reasons, or at their bar; appoint a committee to consider of the manner to begin a thing of this moment. Would not make ill precedents now. Sir Tho. Meres would have a difference betwixt Lauderdale a commoner, and Buckingham a peer. A precedent, in case of a commoner, was that of sir John Griffith, who commanded Gravesend blockhouses; the commons went to the king, and he displaced him. Mr. Cheney. You have given yet no reasons for your vote. Mr. Gurrcit'oy. To subvert all laws, and to say, none shall be, but verbal laws, for the future !’ — You cannot be too severe; the king may do what he pleases with him in Scotland you think him not fit to govern here. Sir TVins/on Churchill. Though wc are satisfied, yet t lie king knows none of our reasons, and therefore would mention them. Col. Strangu'oys.If the king requires you hereafter to give reasons, and thinks your vote unreasonable, you may then present them. Ordered, " That the privy counsellors of the house do attend the king, to know when this house shall attend him with the vote relating to the duke of Lauderdale. * Sir Nich. Carew would go to the king with this Vote now, and to the lords with the other vote. Mr ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ntrary to the interest of the kingdom ! You hear one named; if an extraordinary thing, there is an extraordinaty occasion for ways to clear themselves; present member by member, and in the presence of God and the house let them clear themself, as you once did about the Libel: refer it to a committee to examine this Masters, for the honour of the king, and vindication of the kingdom. •Sir Wm.Coventry. So much has been said in it that it is for the honour of the house to have it thoroughly examined; let a committee consider the wav, and let Masters he examined at the committee, and not at the bar; that admitting not so thorough a disquisition, the mace lit ing upon the table, and the‘Speaker not quick enough to ask questions; as Masters may retire, and recollect himself, whilst you are prepa:log new questions, how to evade your questions for discovery; a Committee is more likely to come to the quick aod bottom of the matter. Jt was referred to a Committee to examine this matter, and to consider what is fit farther to he done to vindicate the honour of the Members of this house. The Committee soon after met, and Masters was examined as to the 665] PARL. HIST. 25Coai&les II. 1673-4.- words, and, after much unwillingness to discover who said the words, at last said, ‘ that being at Mr. John Howe’s house in Gloucestershire, where he was very cirilly entertained several days, (and therefore did give this account with great unwillingness, begging to be excused) be did hear Mr. Howe say, 4 That be hoped this session might be worth 5000 guineas to him but whether in relation to the L i-h Cattle coining in again, or what was precedent or subsequent in the discourse does not at all remember. The Habeas Corpus Bill passes the Feb. 7. The Habeas Corpus Bill was read a third time, passed, and was entitled, " An Act to prevent the illegal Imprisonment of the Subject." * Rev >l\ed, "That the continuing of any Standing Forces in this nation other than the Militia, is a great Grievance and vefcation to the people; and that this house do humbly petition his majesty to cause immediately to be disbanded that part of them that were raised since Jao. 1, 1663. The Speaker reported. That he had attended his majesty with the Vote relating to the duke of Buckingham, and that his majesty had returned this Answer, " That he would take it into his consideration." The Kind's Speech, on concluding a Peace vithHolland.] Feb. 11. The king came to the house of peers, and sending for the commons made the following Speech to both houses; 44 My Lords and Gentlemen; I have pursued your advice, and am come bither to tell you, that, according to your desires, I have made a speedy, honourable, and, 1 hope, a lasting Peace, signed already. — Mr, Speaker, and you Gentlemen of the house of commons; 1 told yoo yesterday in the Banqueting house, that I would give yon a speedy Answer to your Address about disbanding the Forces therein mentioned; and I do assure you, that before you made your Address, I had given orders for the doing of it, as soon as I should be sure of the peace; and I shall reduce them to a less number than they were in the year 16o3, and shall give direction for the march of tnose who are to return to Ireland, who were brought from thence. And as our forces are lessened at land, it will be necessary to build more great ships; for we shall not be safe, unless w e equal the strength of our neighbours at sea: therefore I shall recommend it to your care to give me means fur the effectual doing * 44 TLs gave rise to' the famous Habeas Corpus Bill, which was calculated to set bouuds to toe arbitrary proceedings of ministers, and preserve those who fell under their displeasure from being sent into banishment, or otherwise imprisoned, without cause, measure, or relief. But though this invaluable Bill was now perfected by the commons, and sent up to the lords, it did not receive the royal assent till some years after* Ralph. -Principal Occurrences during the R ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- y may do their own business and his majesty's also. Hi* maj. therefore thinks it At to make a recess at this time; the winter being more fit for business and consultation here. In the mean while, tiis maj. will do his endeavour to satisfy the world of his stedfastness to the Protestant Religion as it is now established; and of his desire for the securing of their properties. And so, his maj. said, he hath given order to the Lord Keeper to prorogue the parliament to the 10th of Nov. next." * Principal Occurrences during the Recess-*-Scheme of the Cabal — Campaign of J674.] Both houses met on the 10th of Nov. and were farther prorogued to the 13th of April 1675. For the following brief account of the principal Occurrences during this long recess, we are indebted to Mr. Hume. " Four days after the parliament was prorogued, the Peace was proclaimed in London, to the great joy of the people. Spaiu bad declared that she could no longer remain neuter, if hostilities were con- •44 We cannot take leave of this remark a hie session, without observing, that if the leaders of the commons had no other motives hr their measures, than the necessity of espousing the cause of relig’on, of making an abandoned court feel the weight and efficacy of pnriie-ment, and providing for the security of the subject; it ought to be acknowledged, that they had done their best to answer all those valuable ends: and if, on the other hand, they began to entertain any thoughts of making reprisals on the court, for their ill designs on them, that they had approved themselves to be as thorough politicians in the one case, as patriots in the other: for, by the separate peace with the Dutch, they had reason to think they had effectually divided England from France; by withholding the Sopply, and breaking the Army in England, and laying a foundation for doing the same in Scotland, they disabled the king from making use of force; and the Habeas Corpus Bill was both a wi<^and popular expedient to pat the liberty of the subject out of the power of the crown." Ralph. : 667] PARL/I1IST. 27Chaui.es II. 1 linued against Holland; mid a sensible decay of trade was foreseen, incase a rupture should ensue with that kingdom. The prospect of this loss contributed very much to increase the national aversion to (tie present war, and to enliven the joy for its conclusion. There was in the Trench service a great body of English, to the number of ten thousand men, who had acquired honour in every action, ami had greatly contributed to the successes of Lewis. These troops, Charles said, he was bound by-treaty not to recal; but he obliged himself to the States by a secret article not to allow them to be recruited, His partiality to Trance prevented a strict execution of this engage-, inent. — If we consider the projects of the famous Cabal, it will appear hard to determine whether the end which those ministers pursued were more blameable and pernicious, or the means by which they were to effect it, inure impolitic and imprudent. Though they might talk only of recovering or fixing the king's authority; their intention could be no other than that of making him absolute: since it was not possible to regain or maintain, in opposition to the people, any of those powers of the crown abolished by late law or custom, without subduing the people, and rendering the royal prerogative entirely uncontrollable. Against such a scheme, they might foresee, that every part of the nation would declare themselves, not only the old parliamentary faction, which, though they kepi not in a body, were still numerous; but even the greatest royalists, who were indeed attached to monarchy, but desired to see k limited and restrained by law. It had appeared, that the present parliament, though elected during ^he greatest prevalence of the royal party, was yet tenacious of popular privileges, and retained a considerable jealousy of the crown, even before they bad received any just ground of suspicion. The guards, therefore, together ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t difficult; it is better to have a strict rule than none at all, better to make the law that rule than to leave every man to be a law and a rule unto himself. — Happy is that government when men complain of the strict execution of the laws, especially when a parliament is sitting which can take the truest measures, and where the wisdom of the nation is to judge of the interest of it. — In the next place, the king bath thought fit to direct your considerations upon the safety and honour of the state; both which are then best provided for, when we keep up the strength and reputation of our Fleet. — So the Roman stare thought, w hen (as the orator tells us) they decreed, 4 Non solum prgsidii, sed etiam ormindi imperii causa navi-gandum esse.’ — It is not altogether the natural decay of Shipping, no, nor the accidents of war, that have lessened our Fleet, though something may be attributed to both these; but our fleet seems rather to he weakened for the. present, by being out grown, and out-built by our neighbours. — Now, as the times of youth and health are best employed in providing against the incommodities and inconveniences of sickness and old age; so there cannot he a better use made of times of peace; than to provide for times of war; there cannot be a reater security against your enemies, than to e always in a posture ready to receive them, — Fleets may secure you abroad, but good laws 575. — The Lord Keeper [676 are necessary to preserve you at home. Nothing recommends the present age unto posterity so much as the wisdom and the temper of the laws that are made iu it; for all succeeding ages judge of our laws, as we do of our ancestors, by the true and unerring rule of experience. — In making of laws, therefore, it will import us to consider. That too many laws are a snare, too few are a weakness in the government; too gentle are seldom obeyed, too severe are as seldom executed; and sanguinary laws are, foV the most part, either the cause or the effect of a distemper in the state. — To establish this state, there seems not to need many new laws: some will always be wanting; and though all that is wanting should not now be finished, yet whatever shall remain unfinished, may be perfected in winter; at which time, we have a gracious intimation from his majesty, that we shall meet again. — But, lest your greater and weightier affairs should make you pass by things of lesser moment, it may not be amiss to put you in tniild to provide against the Excess of new Buildings near London and Westminster: it is a growing mischief, which nothing but a new law can put a stop to; a mischief which for a long time hath depopulated the country, and now begins to depopulate the city too, by leaving a great part of it uninhabited. — Yet, that you may not only entertain yourselves with careful and provident thoughts for the future, be pleased a little to consider and rejoice in the happiness of our present estate. — rIf we look upon the state of things abroad, we shall find ourselves in such circumstances, that it were great impiety not to acknowledge those mercies which, by a rare felicity, have distinguished us from our now miserable neighbours. — Wars and confusions cover the face of the rest of the Christian world; while we have no other part in all these afflictions but that of a Christian compassion. We are newly gotten out of on expensive war, and gotten out of it upon terms, more honourable than ever. The whole world is now in peace with us, all ports are open to us, and we exercise a free and uninterrupted traffic through the Ocean; and wc are reaping the fruits of all this pence, by a daily improvement of our Trade, and in the increase of our Shipping and Navigation, Our constitution seems to be so vigorous and so strong, that nothing can disorder it but ourselves. No influences of the stars, no configurations of the heavens, are to be feared, so long as these two houses stand in a good disposition to each other, and both of them in a happ ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'right of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ts require attendance in the country, though those offices are excepted in the Bili. Would not for any office, or place whatsoever, but discharge his conscience here. Some hardships will arise in this Bill upon men:Diramock, Champion to the king by descent, must not be chosen a parliament man. That any thing should force a man to a new election, that forfeits it not, is very hard; whereas, by parity of reason, if his office incapacitates a~ man once, it should incapacitate him again. Any man may enter 0^)71 PARL. HISTORY, 27 Charles II. 1675. — Parliament-men from taking Plucet. [6scom, otherwhiles by a favour, there hath a way been found to reduce them again under discipline." Vol.IV. reason, we may, in some measure, satisfy the world. Therefore moves fur the Bill to be read a 2nd time. Sir George Reeves offers a bill for regulating Elections of Members of Parliament, ’ ordered to be brought in the last session. — Which was read accordingly, and ordered a 2nd reading. Sir Tho. Meres. A Bill is now read, and, before it, the king’s Speech was read; doubts not of hearts full of thanks for the king’s gracious expressions in his Speech: no man doubts but the matters of it are of great weight, and we should have, at least, two or three days time to consider it; therefore moves for Tuesday to take it into consideration. Mr. Neale thinks Tuesday a great while to defer the consideration of the king’s Speech, considering you give him no thanks for it in the mean time. Moves for Monday, and no business to intervene, no, not privilege, till the safety of the nation be provided for. Resolved, " That the king’s Speech be taken into consideration on Tuesday." Feb. 17. The debate was resumed, and the question being propounded, That the hoqse do proceed to name their Grand Committee, it was carried 193 to 1-12. Debate on Sir T. Stricklan of Popery.] Feb. 19. The house having been informed of sir Tho. Strickland’s conviction of Recusancy, and been moved for a writ to be issued out to chuse a knight for Westmorland, in his stead, Ordered the record of his Conviction to be brought in by the clerk of the crown: and The Speaker informed the house, That, by the record ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Criminall (old spelling) ['criminall'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- u, he has sow n none these 7 years, though he has land fit for it.' He believes he can make no profit of it. Is it imaginable this can take any effect ? By experience, we find, flax is at so low a rate that they sow it no more, and persons will pay a penalty rather than do it, and so the act may be an universal penalty. It may possibly breed some surveyors, and make officers break their oaths. How can he swear to so many acres? Can this then help the poor, or the farmers, who, by this law, must groan under the fienallies ? This bill is, upon a supposition only, to put all husbandmen upon new experiments. Let us have no more trouble with this bill, to hinder us from greater affairs. Sir George Downing believes that for French linen there goes alone 500,000l. per ann. besides other linen. lie is for the bill, but utterly against the imposing the half acre in a 100 acres to be planted with hemp and flax under a penalty. He knows a hundred parishes that have not one acre fit for it. Would move for planting olives, oranges, os pomegranates, as practicable as this. Hemp and flax cao only he planted on mellow ground. You may as well plant Cauary wine, under as specious pretences, as hemp aod flax. By this bill, we bring in a law to wipe away all covenants and jointures, &c. nay, to plough up old pasture, and meadow s, and perhaps in 20 years no grass will come up again. Consider what this charitable pretence of relieving the poor has been. But so much tax upon your lands. Sir Wm». Coventry desires that encouragement may be given to the planting hemp and flax. But the only material objection is, the com pulsatory parts of the bill. They are not usually well executed; mens hearts go not along with it. He would have the committee think of an inducement and eucourageraenuto do h, as well as compulsion. — The Bill was ordered to be committed. Complaint against the Clerk.] Sir Tho. Lee finds no Order for the business of the day, for the house to go into a Grand Committee for Grievances; and, he believes, no Order will be entered for the future, but what shall be acceptable to the Clerk. Mr. Garr(rwuy moves for a newCIerk, this clerk having several times abused us; and would have him remored. Sir IF«i. Hickman. The clerk has served you so very often, and at this time he puts gentlemen into committees whom he knows to be in Lancashire. 837] PARL. HISTORY, 28 CniRT.ts II. 1676-7* — -Dr. Cary's Commitment by the Lords. [838 Mr. Sacheverell thinks, if you let- this pass, you may as well burn all your Journals. He has been one of the Committee for inspecting the Journals, and has had a Report ready in his hand these sessions. In the session of1672, the sense of the house was declared so, and entered otherwise. He moves for a new clerk, and that the king may be desired it. The two first pages of that session may much call in question the privilege and right of this house. Col. birch is for a new clerk. He has beard complaints of him these 7 years, of these miscarriages. When Birkenhead says, (Rolls and Records/ he tells you they are so of his knowledge, and not one print agrees with the Rolls in matter and form. He takes thus the law to be. If any printed Act agrees not with the Record, a person tried may appeal to the Record, whether the law be so or not. Judge then the danger of false entering things rn oar books. The Order for the day not being entered into the Journal by the Clerk, the consideration of Grievances was adjourned to Saturday next; and a Committee was appointed to inspect the Journal of the year 1672, and to examine dfid report the matter of the entry. Debate on Dr. Caryls Commitment by the Xot-A.] March 2. Lord Cavendish moved to consider of the dianHAr of Dr. Cary’s Commitment to the Tower by the lords, &c.* And produced a copy of the lords Order of coin-fiiitihent. Sir Tho. Clarges moves that a Committee may be appointed to search the Lords Journal, to state the matter of fact; the king having particularly recommended it to the lords care, hot to occasion any difference between them and the commons. Mr. Sec. Coventry. Dr. Cary is committed for bringing a libel to the press, which maintains ‘ that you sit wrongfully and have no right to sit as a parliament.* Whether this be not cognisable by the lords, as well as you, is the Question-. He bas refused to give any satisfaction to the loikb from Whom he had the libel, and so they Have committed him for Kbefling thefo, ae you would have had cognisance, if he had violated or struck any lord or member. Sir Tho. Lee feats that the fords will en- ' ii i i' i- -fii.i it. > v u 1 *... •, * " One Dr. Cart*y Was brought to the bar of the house of fords, and questioned concerning a MS. treating Of the illegality of the Prorogation, whifch he had carried to the press; end beb&tiM He declined answering stfon questions as mere put to him. and took sanctuary in the lawi, which obligef no men to accuse himself, they fined him 1000/. and sent him close pri-to thfe Tower fill it was phid. That the fottK1, Who' fidtf made So free With their Owe privileges, by submitting the Uberty of four of their body at once to the pleasure of his majesty, should make thus free with both the liberty and property of a commoner, is pen-haps scarce to bd wbmkred- ab" Ralph. croacb precedents upon you; possibly tba thing moved for is too early. But crimes against the government are not to be immediately punished in parliament for the law is open. Mr. Sacheverell. For the seasonableness of the motion he will not speak, but the thing being come before you, the matter is, bow to get off from it. 21 and 22 R. ii. a statute was made to rule that power, just as the lords do now exercise it, to prevent taking off commoners heads at their pleasure. This was the ground of all your first difference with the lords; they taking a cause originally before them. If the power of the lords be to*exatnine a commoner against himself, and to condemn him for not answering, he knows not what condition we all are in. He would therefore have the matter looked into, and if it appear to be as it is represented, would proceed in it; and nfbves for some persons to be appointed to search the lords Journal. Mr. Sec. Coventry. If this house, and the lords house, can find no way to punish such seditious libellers, you may be pulled out of your Chair; and as they brought the late king to the block, at this rate they may do this also. And moves to proceed no farther in this thing, and the lords punishment of Dr. Cary is just. Mr. Williams. He hears this thing of the lords commitment of Cary justified from the bar, before we know what it is. Moves to have Ernly*s paper reud. Sir Wm. Coventry was ever before for a moderate course with the lords. We are told how terrible the meddling with this matter might be, but he knows not the terror of it in the enquiry. Would have you proceed to the business of the day, and inform yourselves better in this matter. Mr. Po&le has seen a copy; of this Order from the lords, for the commitment of Dr. Cary. It seems a matter of that weight, that, at least, as it is put, it deserves mature consideration. If this be so, no commoner of England but is at the lords mercy. This came not criminally yet before the lords; but they take it originally. Whether Dr. Cary be criminal is not the question; but the manner of his condemnation. What a man says against the government in particular is not cognizable in the lords house, any more than in another place. This is a crime no more particularly affixed to the lords than to this house. The lords examine him, and require him to accuse himself, or somebody ebe. By this means, any thing in the king’s bench may be proceeded upon in the lords bouse. In this he would snow that we are only upon the defensive part, And that we seek no occasion of difference with the lords. It is our desire that the precedent of 31 R. ii. may be prevented. This is so tdnder a point, that he would not let it go without a day to consider it farther; and would not have the world think the house so cold in so great a matter. 839] i’ARL. HISTORY, 28 Cuaiu.es II. lt»7u-7. — Cary's Commitment the Lordt. [840 Mr. Sawyer. Shall any member here undei-take to know what the lords do ? You have only the bare information of this master before you of one member of this house, and no more, lie is much afraid to give countenance to things of this nature. One book now abroad concerns us. It calls us tray tors and rebels for meeting as a parliament/ and either house may enquire into such incendiaries. You passed the same sentence upon Mr. Howard, the last session; he would not say he did or did not write the letter, and you took it, pro confesso, and committed him to the Tower. * Lord Car endish.If this be a crime against the government, as is alledged, he would know whether the lords can judge it without a jury. Mr. Sawyer. Invading our privileges, is invading the government, and such matters may be tried in either house, and this matter more especially in the lords house. Other courts may be timorous. In point of law you punish no mau but as he offends against the government. Sir Wm. Coventry will not contend matter of law with Sawyer, but would ente ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ouse, the words whereby lord Cavendish was offended must be written down, and asserted. Thinks that Goodrich said, 1 they that press this business are no friends to the nation. ’ Sir Philip Harcourt. The business is of a great nature, and he would have you, Mr. Speaker, declare, by order, whether the words are not to be asserted, and written down, before any explanation be admitted of them. Mr. Garrorcay. Goodrich owned his word *, and brought them to his own explanation. Your order is, ‘ those words that gave exception ought to be written down/ and you debate whether those words were said, or not. He believes Goodrich will so explain himself as to give you satisfaction. Serj. Maynard apprehends the words were very bad, but let them he what they will, if you go to censure the person for the words, they must be written down. It was his own case twice, long ago, but he bad liberty first to explain himself: for a man may sometimes outgo himself, and it may be every man's case. Sir H. Goodrick. He is ready to give satisfaction to the house, and every particular member. He intended no reflection upon any gentleman. His words were: ‘ He that promoted this difference betwixt the lords and us was an enemy to the nation.’ That was his intention, whatever were his words. Sir Tho. Meres doubts that the words were otherwise, but would have them accepted as the gentlemen says he intended them. He would have us all bear with one another. We have always borne with the interpretation of the man that spoke the words, and without doubt, (he is no friend to the nation, that promotes differences between the lords, and us.’ But to go on, he believes that lord Cavendish brings the Order for Dr. Cary’s commitment, by the lords, regularly before you; it is by the very same method as you went in sir John Fagg’s case. You were informed of it by a member then, and no otherwise, and the farther consideration thereof was adjourned till Monday. Tommorrow is the day appointed to consider of grievances; and this is the greatest. No man here, he believes, values Dr. Cary in prison, neither the man nor the punishment; but the manner of laying the punishment is 841] PARL. HISTORY, 28 Charles II. 1676-7. — on Wages to Members. [842 what we have reason to except against. This is not the privilege of a particular lord. Lord Cavendish called Meres to Order, viz. That Goodrich meant particularly what he said to reflect upon himself, and not generally speaking. Sir Hot. Coventry. What he heard Goodrich speak was, That they are no friends to the nation that promote a difference between the lords and us/ We have great reason, in these cases, to give grains of allowance to one another. In ancient times but a few persons spoke in the house, and their speeches were ready penned. The powder and shot was ready made up in cartridges; ready cut and dried, and a man had then time to think; but now we speak on a sudden, and therefore would have some grains of allowance given. lord Burleigh* thinks that Goodrich's words particularly reflected upon lord Cavendish; f and would have them set down. Sir Henry Goodrich. He should speak much against both his obligations and judgment, if he intended lord Cavendish, in what he said, or any other gentleman, in particular. Sir Tho. Meres is glad that an end is made of this matter, as to lord Cavendish, who, he thinks, has satisfaction from Goodrich. But he would consider the manner of this judgment (upon Dr. Cary) of the lords, on a commoner. We ought to have as great and as good a privilege as the lords, but would not go on this, without being extremely clear, and perhaps we may find out more privilege than we know of already. Will press no question, but that the matter stands fair for another consideration. Serj. Maynard. If there be public breaches on the liberty of the people, it is not strange to enquire into them, lie fears this commitment of Dr. Cary has raised more dust than can be laid. He must come into a court where he may b ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is story so wrought with, and amazed the commons, that the prisoner found no redress, but might thank God that he escaped again into close prison* Ralph. 84f] PARL. HIST. 28 Charles II. 1676-7.- proceeding against Harrington was, an Oath by one Harriot, Lemmon, and Murray, Scotchmen, at the instigation of Fonseca, (the Spanish ambassador’s secretary) who had engaged Ha-riot, &c. to the utmost disturbance of the government, to create jealousy between the king and this house, clandestinely seeking out informations from Scotland. Harriot he found out, and examined him upon oath. The purport wns this:Harriot was one of the 500 men carried into Ostend, by one of their frigates, where he was not willing to serve, but was put in mind, that if he would pass into England, be should have his liberty. He got an address to Fonseca, and this Harrington was to have the care of him. and gave him money; but took care to ask him about men pressed in Scot-and, and other transactions there, and took notes; which Harrington transcribed fair, and took him to a master in chancery, where he swore to that paper, though he never rend it. But he said to the master in chancery he had read it, ’ but to him (Williamson) he deposed otherwise. Tins fellow said, he swore not conjointly what the other deposed, but for himself only, and not to the cutting off ears/ Says Harrington, 4 I w ill get money for you to go thither: that will be good news to duke Hamilton/ This practice was so indirect, and by Harrington’s carriage at the council, he appeared to be the most grown young man in his impudence, and he believes, in his loyalty: he stands committed for contempt: he used that style, that air, and mien to the king, as it may be so :’ I will answer you no more and the king said, 41 will ask you no more.’ and for this he was committed by the lords of the Council’s order. Mr. Garroway rises not up to justify Har- rington’s deportment to the king, but he has heard that the last day the committee of grievances sat, these people waited at the door to tell you what they petition now, and, he believes, Williamson will tell you what is become of Harriot, &c. now not to be found; taken out of his lodgings: would ask Williamson about the commitment being brought hither to give evidence. Mr. Sec. Williamson. He never saw him, since the deposition in his house. Harrington said to Harriot, 4 go off; what you have said may cost you your own ears/ Sir Tho. Lee. Williamson tells you of * oath made of seditious practices/ Harrington brought them to be examined about men pressed, contrary to the king’s proclamation. Harriot informed a master in chancery of it upon oath, and was not committed for contempt of the king. See now, the crime is to go to a master in chancery, before the king, and he is committed to a messenger before he was brought to the king, and there as a criminal, and asked questions, and he would not inform against himself. This, it seems, is unmannerly’ and ‘sedition/ No wonder we have so little account of Miscarriages, when things are thus managed in Council. * -Debate on Mr. Harrington's Commitment. [848 Mr. Sec. Williamson. His commitment was for going where he ought not to go, in matters of state, to give information, which belongs not to a master in chancery to examine. He should have come to those whom he ought. He wants breeding indeed, the best part of breeding, that of the mind, but for the other, he is a well fashioned man. Lord Cavendish is far from excusing any man that has failed in good manners to the king; but he hears nothing alledged against his deportment at the lords of the Council (but his looks, air, and mien/ Nothing apparent against him, hut that he is unwilling to answer against himself. Williamson said, he was committed for carrying men to depose before a master in chancery, in matters of state, before he came to the king’s council; 4 which he might justify, the parliament sitting; especially apprehending that some of theking's council ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o acquaint you with it. Harrington, with another, was summoned to attend the Council, and came. Harrington was fairly asked questions about disturbances of the government, and what he knew of such a man. That no man is brought thither to accuse himself, is their rule; but to ask if he knew such a man, and what is become of him. Any man that owes allegiance to the king, ought not to refuse answering there. He looked not like an uneducated rustic man. No man behaves himself with more humanity than the king. But he never saw any gentleman more rude to another; throwing his head about — These were only questions concerning other persons, asked fairly by my lord chancellor. And he answered, 4 Ask what questions you will, I will answer you none/ Those common questions that he was asked, no man will deny to another. The Privy-Council may do what a court-leet may, quia male se gessit. It is a common thing to commit upon rude deportment; and his commitment was, because he was of an ill behaviour before his prince — the law allows reverence to the king. He being present when this passed, he thought ithisduty to acquaint you with it. Mr. Williams stands not up to vindicate ill behaviour, but the rights of our liberties. He expected some particular certain cause from the great minister (Williamson) of this man's commitment: he finds only suspicion of seditions practices: so general an allowance is not to be admitted. Men are not to be imprisoned upon notions. If he were committed on the account of seditious practices, this is not the manner. No man is imprisoned but by lex terra et judicium parium suorura; ’ by the king’s writ, not by verbal commandment 849] PARL. HISTORY, 28 Cbailes II. 1676-7. — Council. [850 from the king’s ministers. He does complain, and is in great fear of arbitrary proceedings. This way of commitment has been usual, but no authority for it by statute or common law:but many complaints of it. 1 The King’s pre sence !* How far that may intrench upon the liberty of the subject, ought to be examined, lie doubts. It is said, (He was judged by his eye and mien.’ Every man has not bonne mine. Persons ought not to be committed for that in that place. Sir Wm. Coventry fears that the business before you, the more you handle it, will run the more into your fingers. He could heartily wish the respecting part to the king declined, as it is not to be bandied without pricking your fingers. Liberty is a tender thing, and may concern himsell as well as another man. A secretary of state may call a mao before him, and if he refuses to answer, he may put him in custody; and when be has him, the king may have notice of it; but the crime of the Chancery-Affidavit, and the disrespect to the king intervening, he is committed for that. It seems, Harrington is in custody, and if he be of any use to you be will not be refused, if you send for him to know what is become of Harriot; but as to the - disrespect-part, he would leave that. Sir Henry Capel. This is an unhappy debate, and he desires we may be rid of it as soon as we can. He would preserve a good correspondence with the king, and seconds the motion, to be tender to meddle with this person. If a common justice of the peace may commit him in this case, much more the council board. We are gone and lost for ever, if we pay not respect to our prince, and if ever to any prince, to this. We know the tenderness of his nature: he would send for Harrington, and interrogate him what you plense, as to the other business. Mr. Vaughan. No man that understands his duty to his prince, but will say that Harrington’s gesture deserves censure. Remember your own stations: when your laws are contemned, justice is violated, and expected to be relieved at a committee of grievances; and if a person be so used that comes hither, you must enquire into it. He would adjourn the business to tomorrow, and let the Petitioner come then to the bar to give you ait account of the grievance. Col. Birch. If we slumber over this day’s work, we shall never remedy it again. Such things as these come bye ways:but this shall not fright him:but the warrant of commitment roust tell you what this is. Williamson ought to have secured the person that gave information, as well as have committed Harrington. Mr. Sacheverell loves plain English, and hopes other gentlemen do so too. As this case seems to him, if this be allowed, there needs neither Star-chamber, nor oath, ex officio — Not only the Council table but the lords house commit for Conteippt, ’ (A very brave Vop. IY\ word !) He asks whether any commitment can be without specifying special matter of crime, and not mere contempt ? Would know, boar Harrington stands committed ? Whether upon the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Commitment ? In the 1st, the lords of the Council charge crime — aggravate that to misbehaviour, and thnt holds water, and they commit him to the Tower. Suppose all the case be true of misdemeanor, he asks, Whether for misdemeanor a roan may be committed close prisoner ? And whether they are not to take bail, if it be tendered ? He would have thorn speak out, and then he will tell you more what he has to say. Serj. Maynard. Harrington may be brought to the bar, if Jie desires it. He may be indicted or bailed. The countess of Shrewsbury complained to the Council-table, that the lady Arabella was treating with foreign ministers. The lady Arabella refused to answer. By the advice of the judges (at common law) she was committed, and it was no new thing. Ed. 1. A clerk forged a fine; the lord chancellor examined him; be was convicted, but removed to the exchequer* and there tried, and was convicted. Some matters of state must be looked after, in another manner than the common way: he cannot but justify the Secretary’s warrant-general, for misbehaviour.* But that about 1 pressing the men in Scotland, he does not. Lord Cavendish moves for this other person, Harriot, to be brought likewise. Mr. Sec. Wil ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ddresses, we 919] PARL. HISTORY, 29 Charles II. 1 have had satisfaction, and have given Supply thereupon. In all former Alliances there was a quota expressed for Lorrain, Spain, Holland, Arc. This 40,000 men and 90 ships, in the king’s Speech, is a doubt to me, what quota Holland must come up to. Formerly we inwall before us — And when we know- what our parts arc to bear, in this confederacy, or whether we are to bear the whole burden of the war, then it is time to talk of aids to support the war. Mr. Mallet.One false step made by this parliament in this great alinir, and England is lost for ever. What is done in it, I would have done with true li?ht and good understanding, and I am for the consideration of it tomorrow. Col. Birch. I have such n difficulty upon tny spirits, as I never had since I was born. As the union of the bouse, in our last Address, gave inc great rejoicing, so dividing of opinion, in this matter, makes me tremble. A right understanding amongst ourselves will prevent the greatness of the king of France, above all things. We were all of a mind, the other day, in the Address, and I wonder it is not so now. Surely it is for some great reason, and I would know what reason. Whatsoever we resolve of, I would not have a negative. Sir George Downing. I have seen sadder days here thap Birch speaks of, which he knows as well as L; but let that pass. I hope there will |>e no cause of division amongst us, and that, in what we do, we shall have no negative. I saw the other day the meaning was good to engage the kingdom in the Pyrenean Treaty:hot that treaty was never brought to the table. I saw' the meaning was good, and therefore I said nothing. The thing is wholly mistaken; the king’s Speech is entire. After you have voted Supply, the rest is gradual, and you may go by steps. Consider, is France to be dallied with ? Threaten him, and not dare to strike him ? We may be stricken before we are ready strike. YVhen I consider what has been called, the grievances of French counsels amongst us, ’ they are departed, since the time the prince of Orange a protestant prince, was married to the heir of the crown; and now we demur in going into a grand committee. Mr. Powle. If I could be satisfied that we arc* wholly departed from French counsels, I would not be backward to go into a grand committee, to consider his majesty’s Message. But these four years, Addresses have been made to prevent the growing greatness of the French, and the ministers declare against him, and yet France grows great under these counsels. I fear some inclination is still amongst the ministers to France, and they have brought us to the brink of ruin. And we may lay all considerations aside, if we suffer this; — ever by urgent necessity to be driven from Religion and Property. The apple of contention in the king’s Message is as if the house had no interest to concern themselves in war and peace. If we look uot to the interest of this house, it >77 -S. — Debateon the King’s Answer to (920 is in vain to think of any thing abroad. The king may make war and peace, and the house may advise war and peace; and this might have been done sooner, if you, Mr. Speaker, had not leaped out of the chair, and would not suffer gentlemen to speak, but adjourned the house. I can show precedents out of my small store, that the constant practice of the house has been otherwise. Now we are told, ‘ that here is a league offensive and defensive made with Holland, for preservation of Flanders/ And Money is called for to maintain that Treaty, and we know not one word of it. Must we he kr pt thus in the dark ! When an Aid was desired in parliament tor supporting the Triple Alliance, Mr. Secretary Morris opened every particular of it to the house. In the last war with the Dutch, the king offered to show us all the League with France. We are told in the king’s Paper, he has communicated this Treaty to several of his Allies, and they approved it; ’ and why must we only be kept in ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- d, by the same reason, it will cost more hereafter, if we delay it now. We have been told by some gentlemen that they would see the particulars of these Treaties. To that it has been answered, how inconsistent would that be in so great an assembly! There was a time, (nod I hope there will never be such another) when the king and lords were put out of the government, and the commons only retained. Yet they thought not themselves fit to manage affairs of state; but made a council of state for that purpose. I would not abase the prerogative in this great affair, now so useful to our safety as well as the king’s honour. But it is said, 4 That other princes know these Treaties, and we must not.’ To that I answer, they are a supreme power, and we are not. We are told likewise, 4 That there are many precedents that the king has anciently advised with his parliament, in Treaties.’ But we need not ancient precedents for that; the king has communicated his to you now; and now that our neighbour's house is on fire, and it is coming to our own, a punctilio of Order of our house may stop the affaire of all Christendom. There is no force in Christendom able to withstand the French. The hazard of the war is great, and the expence is as certain. We are unfit to partake the prerogative with the king, though he may please in his grace and favour sometimes to descend to us. Do you expect the thanks of the country for delay ? their rage, rather, and the discontent of Christendom; and I hope, the Order of the house will never obstruct this great affair. Mr. Sacheverell. I know not what answer to give, but I know what mind the country are of. They will not be pleased if we thrust a sum of money blindly into those hands that have so ill managed affairs. It is but to strengthen the hands of those who have ill 923] PARL. HISTORY, 29 Charles II. 1< managed things for the interest of the nation. They, by virtue of their places, may reconcile themselves to the king, which I cannot, being a private person; but I must, in public, ask those gentlemen, when the house has branded them for doing wrong, when ever the bouse has sat down tamely under it ? the same influence from these men has branded the parliament, to make it odious. As to the king’s prerogative, we have done it wrong in nothing, and such as persuade the king that we have done so, deserve net to have the management of this great affair. How should those counsellors see this now, that have gone 7 years another way? four years together the parliament addressed Hen. vii. about the loss of Britany. They gave a Supply for it, and they Crusted the ministers, and as long as they gave nothing was done, and when Britany was lost, much about the 3d of Dec. just at that time, the king, council, and chancellor, all moved the parliament for a Supply, or all was lost. In Edw. ivth’s time, he desired to make his Will, for be would go over to succour Burgundy*. And he went over when all was lost. The great men ahout the king had pensions then from the king of France, on record in the parliament of Pans, for life, all but the lord Hastings, lord chamberlain, who would give no acquittance for it. When Hen. vh. was first moved by the duke of Britauy fox assistance, the king of France sent to him to sit Still. His council advised him to mediate a peace, and they mediated so long till nil the dukedom of Britany was gonfe — 12 Edw. iv. The ministers pursued this practice. A war. and an alliunce was made with the duke of Burgundy, in all hnste, and, when that was done, the ministers found it a fine game to receive pensions from the French, and raise money at home, and always were in haste, and they must have money from the parliament for this war to save Burgundy from the F'rench; but all Burgundy was lost by it. What end can our ministers now have in not showing us these articles, but their being conscious to themselves who made the French' Alliance, that they are faulty ? the very same steps are taken now as were then, in all ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- , to join with them in a Petition to the king for leave to sit longer, and the lords refused to join with them, and declared, that the adjourning, calling, and dissolving parliaments was the sole right of the crown.’ But, at a conference afterw ards, they acquainted the commons, ‘ that, by this Adjournment, the king had declared to them, that the Bills depending in each house should nut be cut off fcy the adjournment; ’ and the commons rested satisfied. But king James told the commons, in harsh terms, his dislike of their proceedings, end commended the duty of the lords. The commission then for adjourning the parliament the commons avoided reading in their house, because not directed to them, hut they obeyed the king’s pleasure in adjourning, though not by that commission; and several adjournments afterwards succeeded otic another. But it is noted in that Journal, That a motion being offered for writs to issue out to supply vacancies, the house refused to make any Order in it, being to adjourn, and would bear no motion that day.’ i speak this to show that no question was ever put, nor business ever done, after the king’s pleasure of adjournment was signified. 1st Ch. i. the lords sent to the commons to come up to the lords house, to hear the king’s commission of Adjournment rend. The commons sent the lords this Answer to their message, ‘ 'lhat it was according to ancient precedents, that the house of commons always adjourned themselves/ Now the question was only, whether the cominonsshould he adjourned in the lords house, or here; and the commons then adjourned to Oxford to the 1st of August. 3rd Ch. i. the Speaker brings a Message from the king, to require the house to make no farther proceedings in business, and that the house should adjourn all committees; and the house . — Further Debate on the Speaker's [P32 was adjourned accordingly. A Message was sent from the lords, to signify that the king gave leave to the houses to sit a few day9 longer, to perfect the Petition of Right, and the Bill of Subsidies, and that they might go hand in hand/ I speak this to declare Adjournment, by commission, to be in the nature of prorogation. 5th Ch. i. 1'eb. 25. A Remonstrance was prepared by some members, after an adjournment of that day to the 2nd of March, which being proposed, sir John Finch, the then Speaker, said, He had a command front the king to adjourn the house to the 10th of March, ’ and put no question of adjournment, and refused to put any question. Mr. Sec. Coke delivered the Message of the house adjourning on the 25th of Feb. till the 2nd of March, and the Speaker adjourned the house accordingly, without a question, or particular command from the house. The house being met according to that adjournment, some called to the Speaker to put the question about the protestation, or remonstrance. He refused to put the question, and proffered to go out of the Chair, and the riot thereupon followed. The Little Parliament, in 1640, was not a parliament in law, having done no act. Though a parliament met not till ten years after, they fell into examination of the breach of privilege the last day of the sitting of the former parliament, by the Speaker. The matter of fact was stated, and the house came to a resolution in this vote, ‘ That the Speaker, (sir John Finch) refusing to put a question, being thereunto required, or to adjourn the house upon apy command whatsoever, without the consent and approbation of the bouse itself, are breaches and violations which highly impeach the privileges of parliament/ I observe, that the house was then possessed of a debate, and the Speaker refused to put a question, and that was the thing complained of, and the particular article relates to nothing else, but the matter of fact depending in the house; and I make no question, nor ever did, that when the king commands an adjournment, it is the act of the house, and the Speaker can do no otherwise. But this always has been the form of doing it, when the king comma ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o more than to support the alliances.’ If the words be insisted upon, we must go to the house for power to add them to the question. Sir. Tho. Clarges. It is not fit to have the words in the question, ‘ to support Alliances with the States General, ’ because you are told that the Treaty is not yet confirmed, and it is strange to have it in an act of parliament. The Speaker. I think it will consist with your order, though it be not in the words of your order. If you will give me leave to take notice of the order of your proceedings, the debates have been upon two sums, &c. I could have wished you had proceeded in another method. In this there is but one way of raising this. When several-sums are proposed, and those, debated, the least sum is first pot to the question; and then the other sum like* wise in competition with the greater sum. So then the competition in the debate is between 600,000l. and a million. The other sum of 800,000l. interloped. I am never for so great a sum as will fright the people, nor so little a sum as is not to be depended upon by our allies. Shall the ships and men be raised in earnest ? That will cost 3 millions, and you give but 600,000l. The king has made those Alliances upon our actual engagement and assurances of assisting him only, and, after a computation of so much, you come on with 600,000l. There would be no difficulty in this, if the question . was betwixt the king and the people only; but others are to take measures too by it, and if you lessen it, they must seek it elsewhere. No mau that hears me but will say, that it is an unnatural step to lower the king of France by distrust amongst ourselves. Distrust is a weed apt to grow here, and those, not under the doty we are will despise him; and therefore I never think it will proceed from this house. The greatest consent has been to a million, and will the king part with this duty and loyalty for a million ? The king must never look you in the face again upon this cheat, that no particular man would go about to get money by. I will say nothing of the willingness of the nation to lend money, so bit by public faith, but they would enution such a sum of money as to make your coming again necessary. I would have this his act, not ours, not the result of his necessity hot your duty, and not to perpetuate ourselves. We must trust the king, and you injure your question by sticking on it so long, and there* fore I would have you put it. Sir Tho. Meres. I affirm it to be order, that, if several sums be put to the question, you must put the least sum first, and so on; but if gentlemen would put 700,000l. after* wards, I do not say that question must be put. If I may have leave, I will say a short word to matter of trust. We may be trusted by the seamen. Foreigners may trust us; they have no cause to distrust us: betwixt the king and PARL. HISTORY, 29 Charles II. 16/7-8. — carrying the War. 43] PARL. HISTORY, 29 Charles II. 1677-8. — Debate on a Supply for [944 vs it is the most valuable and worthy thing. 1 recommend it to the ministers, that, when the king has said it, though in a little matter, I am glad it is thought of such a value, and I hope no man thinks much to hear me, but if this has not been so formerly, it is none of our fault. I shall never lay it to the king. I could instance in three points they are ill plants. I shall not mention them. I could rather wish there was no appropriation of this money for ships. I should be rather glad of it. Trust is the best and noblest jewel of the crown. Mr. Mallet. I agree not with the Speaker, that a sum, having been named, may be waved, and not put to the question. As to all other parts of the Speaker's discourse, in florid language, he says, Alliances are madebut yet there is no discovery of them; but by woeful experience we have found vfcst deviations of money, and that makes me more cautious. I will say no more. — The question being put for 600,000l. it passed in the negative. The question for 800,000l. pas ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- y the house. Debate on raising the Million — Tax upon Neto Buildin&t.] Feb. 19. In a grand committee on the Supply, on the manner of raising the Million, Ac. A motion was made to lay part of the Tax upon New Buildings, &c. Sir Tho. Clarges. I would know what new foundations have been since 167$. Lately, upon trial at law, lord chief justice Hale did declare it legal to build, where foundations were laid. And why may not a man make the best of his own land ? Sir Tho. Littleton. You eased London, and laid the tax upon Middlesex, by reason of these New Buildings; and so they are taxed already. Sir Nich. Pedley. New Buildings were de- clared general nuisances in king James's time. They would in time make London too big for the whole body. You may well give a year's value upon them towards this charge. Mr. Oarroxcay. Young gentlemen, come lately into the house, flatter themselves that this may save their land in this tax. It is now 16 years experience that when we come to result, the thing, I believe, will be upon land; and that is ready calculated for you. Mr. Sec. Williamson.These New Buildings are one of the banes of the country; they draw away all your tenants, and must not these lands supply your present occasion by way of penalty? Buildings may give something, &c. Those that hire them pay dear, and those that buy them. The owners having made profit of them, to the nation's injury, ought to bear some part of the burden. To lay not more upon land than what will come in upon land, is a necessary caution for this great work. Serj. Maynard. The question is, where you will lay this tax. A certain sum is most certain to be raised, and most equal. Ever since I have known the law, and practised at the King's Bench, I never knew any general, but this of New Building declared a nuisance. Building itself is no nuisance, but it beiop an inconvenience to the civil government, is the greatest nuisance that ever was. Though the court of Star-Chamber in some things was a grievance to the nation, and the king could not make a thing unlawful to be lawful by prerogative, yet the Star-Chamber construed the increase of New Buildings to be a contempt, to do an unlawful thing, when there was a proclamation to the contrary. Col. Birth. If I were sure we should*have no war, I would charge land without any more ado. But if gentlemen have a clear sight in this great matter, there is nothing to make you low and contemptible to your enemies, but charging your land. If once you make a concurrent tax upon land, the French king will not be afraid of what you can do. I am for charging laud, when we come shoulder to shoulder with the enemy. Till then it will be but vain to charge land. In the body politic it is as in the body natural. If the money does not circulate, all will fly to the head, like the blood, and kill presently. If those at the helm do not consider to bring the blood round again, the many consequences will be fatal. If you lay this tax upon land, the first six months perhaps may come in, but the second six months will sink a third part of the value of the land; and cattle and corn will give nothing. I would have this seriously thought of; there can never be war, if this money be raised by land-tax. I take this as before you; let New Buildings go as the least of evils; keep the tax from lands. I was here in a Convention in 1654, about paying some debts contracted for the navy. (I never saw so many wise inen together.) And then it was said, and said again, that New Buildings were nuisances, ' when all was fair green fields at St. James's. Mr. Solicitor Wmuington. I stand up, in the main, to ease land. But I think there is a mistake in this of new buildings, &c. It is the interest of the house to establish the durable interest of the nation, the freeholder. This debate is charging new buildings, and the reason in the debate is, that they are a common nuisance.' Though I am not of the coif, yet I will presume to offer my reasons. A common nuisa ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e bouse. And it was resolved. That the concurrence of the lords be desired thereto. The Address was sent up accordingly, but it never proceeded further. March 18. Resolved, " That such members as are of his majesty’s privy council, do acquaint his majesty, that there is a Bill of Aid passed both houses, and ready for his royal assent." March 19. Mr. Sec. Coventry delivered to the house the following Answer from his majesty: " C. R. His majesty hath received the notice sent him by this house, that the Poll-Bill was now ready for the royal assent; which his maj. was well pleased to hear, and resolves to pass it tomorrow. His inaj. desires this house to dispatch the rest of the Supply promised him, with all expedition. The sen and land preparations run great danger of being disappointed, if these supplies be retarded:and it would be a satisfaction to his maj. to hear from this bouse, that no more time should be lost in a work so necessary for the safety nnd reputation of the nation, as the finishing those supplies." A Short Recess.] March 20. On a Message from the king, the house went up to attend his maj. in the house of lords; where he gave his assent to the Poll-Bill, &c. and made the following Speech; " My lords, and gentlemen; I am so tea-lous for the good of the nation, that it shall be your fault, and not mine; if all be not done as should be, for the honour and safety of ft: and I must tell you, there must be no time lost." March 26. The house addressed the king for a short Recess; to which his majesty agreed, and appointed them to adjourn to April 11. Sir Robert Sawyer chosen Speaker.] April 11. The house being met, Mr. Hen. Seymour, one of his majesty’s bedchamber, and uncle to Mr. Seymour, the present Speaker, acquainted the house, That ho had received information by a Letter by appointment from Mr. Speaker, who at present is at his house in the country in the interval of the sitting of the bouse; that be was there suddenly seized with a sickness and distemper, so violently, that be was confined to his bed, and not able to write himself; but so soon as it should please God to 957] PARL. HISTORY, 30 Charles II. 16\ restore him, he would return to their service. And Mr. Secretary Coventry acquainting the house. That his majesty had received advertisement, that Mr. Speaker laboured under so great an indisposition of health that he could not possibly, for a long time, attend the service ot* the house; and to the end the public affairs might receive no delay; his majesty gave leave to the house to chuse a new Speaker; and to present him to his majesty on Monday next: and the house being satisfied, that, by reason of the Speaker’s great indisposition, uncertainty of return: and in order to public affairs, it was very necessary a new Speaker should be chosen:thereupon Mr. Sec. Coventry proposed, and recommended, sir Robert Sawyer as a person fit, for his ability and learning, to be Speaker. And sir Robert Sawyer standing up, and making a speech to excuse and disable himself; and some other person being in nomination; and a debate arising; and a question demanded to be pot. Whether sir Robert should be chosen Speaker or not; and who should put that question; a precedent was then produced out of the Journal of 1. Jac. where the clerk of the house, in like case with this, did, by direction of the hoose, make and put the question; and the present clerk being now directed and demanded so to do; and the mace not being in the house; he did humbly leave it to their consideration, whether it could be so regularly done, till the mace were brought into the house: and upon some debate bad, it was thought fit, and the mace was, by their command, brought in by the serjeant, and laid under the table:and the house then again directed the clerk to make, and put the question:which he did, pursuant to the former precedent; viz. All that will have sir Robert Sawyer Speaker, say, yea:’ Which being carried in the affirmative, by much the greater ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- . Sir Tho. Lee. If my worthy friend, Wheeler, had known what his soldiers had done in Southwark, he would not have been so forward in this. Mr. Garroway. These gentlemen, that would have the words written down, would not be so forward, if they heard of what I shall tell you:what those soldiers are, and what they have done. Then you will judge whether it is fit to give Money to support them in their carriage. I would, in this unlucky juncture, do any thing for your service. Let gentlemen get on in the report, and wave this motion. If you will go on, let the words the gentleman spoke be asserted in writing, and do what you please upon them. — The thing went off. The Speaker reported the substance of the king’s Message by Sec. Williamson, viz. " That, II. l67S. — to quicken the Supply. [974 by reason of the Expence and Charge his majesty has been, at for equipping and furnishing his Navy, and raising soldiers, &c. he desires that the house would immediately enter into consideration of a Supply for him; for his majesty must either disband the men, or pay them." * Mr.Garroway. Pray let ns be plain and see; for, as things are, we can make no judgment of them. Let us know our Answer from the king to our Address; and do like reasonable men. They have had great time to consider; we have had none. Pray let this Message alone till Monday. We know not why we should disband these forces, or keep them up, for we know nothing of war, or peace. Whatever we do, will else be by chance; it may be very well, or very ill. I would therefore consider of it, - Mr., Towle. There is one word in the king’s Message which I take notice of, the word ‘ immediately/ To enter into the debate, I will always show as much respect to the king’s Message, as any man:but I think that word ‘ immediately’ over-rules the debate, and intrenches upon the privileges of this house. I am sorry those about the king will impose these things upon his majesty. It will be limo to take up this debate, when our Grievances are redressed, and our Address answered, And then, giving Money ought to be the last thing considered. Why was the Army so hastily raised ? Which was no good sign of good intention to the public. Let those about the king set things right and straight. Till then it is too raw and fresh to go upon Money. And L would let fall the debate now, and go upon other business. Sir John Ernly. You must disband these men that are raised, or pay them. If it be war, these men are ready for you, and I am glad we are insomuch readiness towards it. I am no more for a standing army than any gentleman here; but I would give the king some resolution of his Message. If we consider it not now, that we would do it some other time. You cannot leave it thus, without great dissatisfaction to the nation. Col. Birch. This was a work of darkness, from the beginning. We gave Money for what we see now not'a word of it true:a bargain performed on the one side, and not on the other. We were told, that we must trust the king with the Treaties, because the thing could not be well discovered to us/ No doubt but the king knows the bottom of all this, and if he disband the men, and discharge the Ships, he knows why he docs it. But still we have no Answer to making of Leagues, that we advised. If the king enter into this league, we shall see all the quotas of the Con- * In the Journal, the words are the same with those in the Secretary’s first Speech. The former part of the Message was, That his majesty had appointed 4 o’clock in the afternoon for their attending him with the Address/ 975] PARL. HISTORY, 30 Ciiarlf.s II. federates; but will any man give Money till he knows for what ? But I find it is still designed fur a peace with the French king, and whenever you leave that king with 100 sail of ships, and 100,000 men, you are in a worse condition than any war can make you. Upon the whole, this is like U question, that a man cannot tell whether to give his affirmative or negative to. Therefore, I would not adj ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- question, could not expect a smooth Answer; they could not but expect a negative on this of Money. Some of the king’s council are good, and I ant apt to believe some are bad; and you have said so. There are twins in the womb. If you adjourn till Monday, there is the same snare still, if we have no more light, neither Peace nor War. — The previous question for adjourning the debate passed in the negative, 178 to 177. The King's angry Answer to this Address.] May 11. p. m. The house attended the king with the Address, to which his majesty was pleased immediately to return this Answer: " This Address is so extravagant, that I am not willing speedily to give it the Answer it deserves." * The King snakes a Speech to the and prorogues the Parliament.] May 13. His majesty prorogued the parliament till May S3. Before the commons were sent for up to the lords house, by the black rod, the king spoke thus to the lords: " My lords; I have received an Address of such a nature from the house of commons, as I cannot but resent very highly, from the ill consequences I have lived to see from such Addresses. I intend therefore to prorogue them for some short time, in hopes they will consider better what they ought to do at their return. I have chosen to tell this to you first, because I would have you kuow I 'am very well satisfied with the dutiful behaviour of this house, and you will by that time be more enabled to give roe your Advice." Sixteenth Session of the Second Parliament. The Speech on opening the .] May 23. The parliament met again, when the king opened the session* with the following Speech to both houses: " My Lords and Gentlemen; When I met you last; I asked your Advice upon the great conjunctures abroad. What return you gentlemen of the house of commons made me, and whether it was suitable to the end I intended (which was the saving of Flanders ), I leave it to yourselves, in cold blood, to consider. Since I asked your Advice, the conjunctures abroad aod our distempers (which influenced them so much) have driven things violently on towards a peace; and where they will end, I cannot tell; but will say this only to you, that I am resolved, as far as I am able, • This Answer is not entered in the Journals of the house, but is preserved in sir Thomas Webster’s " Collection of certain Extracts of this Session, " and is also confirmed by sir John Keresby, in his Memoirs, p. Vol, IV. - The King's Speech on opening the Session. [97 to save Flanders, either by a war or a peace, which way soever I shall find most conducing towards it; and that must be judged by circumstances, as they play from abroad. For my own part, I should think, being armed, were as necessary to make peace, as war; and therefore, if 1 were able, would keep up my army, and my navy at sea, for some time, till a peace were concluded, if that must be; but, because that will depend upon your Supplies, 1 leave it to you to consider whether to provide for their subsistence so long, or for their disbanding sooner, and to take care, in either case, not to discourage or use ill so many worthy gentlemen and brave men, who came to offer their lives and service to their country upon this occasion; and in pursuit of your own Advices and Resolutions. I must put you likewise in mind of a branch of my Revenue, " which is now expiring; and of another greater, which is out off by a Clause in the Poll Bill; ns also of the 200,000l. taken up upon the credit of the Excise at your request. And 1 desire your Resolutions may be speedy, because the present necessity requires it. And I shall consent to any reasonable Bills you offer me for the good and safety of the nation. — My Lords and Gentlemen; I shall say no more, but only to assure you (whatsoever some ill men would have believed) I never had any intentions but of good to you and my people, nor ever shall; but will do oil that I can for your safety and ease, as far as yourselves will suffer me. Aod since these are my resolutions, I d ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distemper']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- positions at Nimeguen; yet such were his majesty’s resolutions to hold them to their league, and so constant were all his refusals to hearken to such a peace, or to have any part in it, that they must of necessity at we have made for war, and the prohibitions we have made of trade, we have given no small provocations to a mighty king, who may he at leisure enough to resent them if ha please. And therefore it will import u* so to strengthen ourselves, both At home end abroad, that it may not be found a cheap or easy thing to put an affront upon us. — The first step in order to this is, to preserve a state of peace and unity at limpe, which is now more necessary than ever:he that foments divisions now, does more mischief to his country than a foreign enemy can do, end disarms it in a time when all the hands and all the hearts we have are but enough to defend us — No fears of arbitrary government can justify, no zeal to religion can sanctify, such a proceeding. — It bath been so stale a project to undermine the government, by accusing it of endeavouring tot introduce popery and tyranny, that a man would wonder to see it taken up again. — Have we forgotten that religion and liberty were never truly lost, till they were made a handle and pretence for sedition ? Are we so ill historians as not to remember when prelacy was called popery, and monarchy tyranny; when the property of nobility and gentry was held to be destructive of liberty; and that it was a dangerous thing for men to have any sense of their duty and allegiance fr-Do we know all this, and suffer men without doors ie hope by our divisions to arrive at the same times ^ain? Can we endure to see men break the act of oblivion every day, by reviving the memory of forgotten crimes io new practices ? — If fears and jealousies can ever become wise and good men, it is only then when there is danger of relapse. No caution can be too great against last have been obliged to continue in the war the returns of that fatal distemper from which some way or other. — But when once it was i we have been so lately recovered, especially heard abroad, that this league, which was the ! when some symptoms of it begin again to ap-only thing by which his majesty could oblige, pear in printed libels, and in several parts of the States, had been so ill understood at home, 1 the nation. — It might perhaps be worth our as to meet with some very unfitting and ! while to consider, whether we do not bring ▼ery undeserved reflections; as soon as it had j some kind of scandal upon the Protestant retaken air, and they understood that there was ' ligion, when we seem so far to distrust the a resolution to give no money until satisfaction 1 truth and power of it; that, after so many given in matters of religion, which in all countries are the longest debates that can be entered upon, and at this time above all others should least have been stirred; and when at last the king had received an address which laws that have been passed to guard it, after all the miraculous deliverances from the attempts which have been made against.it, ns should still be afraid of its continuance. — Jt is, no doubt, a duty winch we owe to God and to they took to be of such a nature as was never 1 ourselves, to the present age, and to posterity, seen or heard of before in any state or king- 1 to improve the opportunities God gives us of doit) in the world, and had proceeded so far . fencing our vineyard, and making the hedge as to express his resentment of it: — Then about it as strong as we can. And the king they concluded with themselves, that it was . hath commanded me to tell you, that h« is in vain to rely any longer upon England, for ready to concur with us iu any thing of this England was no longer itself: then all sides kind, which shall he found wanting, and which began to wish for peace, even Spain as well the Christian prudence and justice of a pari ta- ns Holland; and if the cessation which is endeavoured to be made in order to it take effect, as in all likelihood it will, we may conclude that the peace will soon follow. — The influence such a peace will have upon our affairs is fitter for meditation than discourse; only this is evident, that, by the preparations roent can propose as expedient. — But why theu do wc suffer those abroad to complain of the dangers of religion, who complain only for complaining sake? Hath not the late act made it impossible, absolutely impossible, for the most concealed Papist that is, to get into any kind of employment ? And did ever any law, wu«a 81] PARL. HISTORY, SO Charles the reformation, give os so great a security as this ? — As little cause there is to be jealous of our liberties and properties; nor do they believe themselves, who pretend to be afraid of either. — Can there be a greater evidence of the moderation of a prince, and his tenderness of the subjects, than to suffer, as lie does every day, so touch licentious and malicious talk to pass unpunished. If there be not one instance to be found in a whoe reign of a man that bath suffered against law, and hut very few examples of those that have suffered by it, shall we endure them that dare any, in coffeehouses, and in other public places, that the nation is enslaved ? — Let it be lawful to provoke and challenge the most discontented and the most unsatisfied Spirit in the kingdom, to shew that time, if he can, since the world began, and this nation was first inhabited, wherein there were fewer grievances, or less cause of complaint, (ban there is at this present; nay, give him scope enough, and let him search all' atres, and all places of the world, and tell us, if fie can, when and where was ever found ' a happier people than we are at this day. — And if malice itself ought to blush when it makes thiscompamon, what strange ingratitude both to God and man are they guilty of, who behave themselves so, as if they could be ill at oa*e under so temperate a government? — My Lords and Gentlemen; The king will not suifer himself to believe it possible that you should ever forsake him, when any difficulties or distresses are near him; and therefore he doth with great assurance expect your care to preserve him in the affections of his people, as well as your concurrence to his present Supplies. — The forces which have been raised, and the ships which have been set out by your advice, have been at a vast charge; and vet it will be no small expence to disband them again, and to pay them till they be disbanded. - — That two hundred thousand pounds which was borrowed at your request remains ti9 u debt upon the king, unless you acquit yourselves of the obligation rvhich lies upon you to pay it. — That branch of the revenue which expires next month will leave the crown in great want, if it be not continued; and yet the continuance of it will not prove so considerable a support as it ought to he; for the Poll Bill hath extinguished the duty upon French wine6, and all other customs arising upon trade with France; and it is worthy of the care of a parliament, to make this up some other way, that so his majesty may see and know that nothing can be lost by trusting his parliament. — But the king hath so far expressed himself this day, that it is evident the manner of ynnr proceedings is to him as considerable as the matter; and that he will not accept a good bill, how valuable soever it may be, unless it come to him in the old and decent method of parliaments. — The late way of tack ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e subscriptions sent with the petition, by the mistaken zeal of the gentleman. If we arc not impowered to receive Affidavits here, it is no affidavit, and you may receive it. Ifthey lapse any more time in their petition, they may be nonsuited again, as they have been tw ice already, and so their business is doue for this parliament. I would therefore have the clerk read the Petition, and connive at the Affidavit. The Speaker. If you will put the sitting member (sir John Reresby) to these unnecessary disturbances, and admit every irre-. gularity, &c. Sir Tho. Lee. I would publish rules, that all persons must come from all parts of England to avow Petitions, and so weary men out, that the mayors and bailiffs will chuse you all the parliament-men. The case of sir James Lang-iiam, for Northampton. He was first chosen by the commonalty, and secondly by the mayor and aldermen, and thirdly by both, and yet he missed it at last. There was something of a communion-table in the case. Mr. Toivle. Whilst we are gratifying a particular gentleman, let us not lose an essential privilege; that wrhenever a member avers the Petition, you never refuse it. Sir Wm. Wentworth tells you, he knows the hands, and un- * This was a Petition of several of the burghers, setting forth, " That sir John Reresby had procured himself to be returned for that borough, though he w as not duly elected." PAUL. HISTORY, 30Cuarles II. lG7S 985] PARL. HISTORY, 30 Chari.es II. 16 dertakes they will prosecute the petition. If any member presents a petition to abuse you, and the petitioners will not avow the petition, it is in your power to punish that member, and send him to the Tower. A member has sat here four years, and the petitioners say he has sat wrongfully. Let us not begin new customs to hinder complaints of people coming to us. Let the petition be read, but not the Affidavit. Mr. Sec. Coventry. By this Petition, the town complains of one that sits, that is not a representative of them, as a grievance. It must be owned by somebody, and I would have it now. Sir Etim. Jennings. Since the Petition is insisted upon, I must say something, that I otherwise would not: I believe it to be' fictitious. That letter could not come to Mr. Wentworth till Sunday morning, and he lives 20 or 30 miles from Aldborough, and sending to and again that Affidavit, which was made at Wakefield on Monday, and this is 26 miles farther, how it is possible this Affidavit could be made in such a time, I leave you to consider. Sir Wm. Coventry. It is no compliment to your member to be the hauder of a fictitious Petition to you. I presume the member has had caution. If it be fictitious, I wonder gentlemen should call for adjourning, and not enquire into it: every scrivener may else put these slurs upon you, and by calling it fictitious, and not proving it, the corporation mny be slurred out of their right too. I would therefore refer the enquiry into it to the committee of privileges. The question being put. That the Petition be read, it passed in the affirmative, 139 to 115, and the Clerk was ordered to blot out the Affidavit. The Petition was referred to the committee of privileges. May 31. Resolved, " That a Supply be granted to the king towards the paying and disbanding of all the Forces raised since the 29rb of Sept, last." A Supply given to disband the by a certain Day. I June 4. The commons voted 200,000l. to be raised by a monthly tax, in six months, after the Land-tax, then in heing, should be expired; with an appropriating clause, that this should be for disbanding the Army by the end of the present June:they also voted 200,000l. towards defraying the Expences of the Fleet; and seemed inclinable to throw in such another sum for the king’s extraordinary occasions. A Message from the King to prolong that term.] June?. His majesty sent them another Message, signifying " That his mind was still the same with what he delivered in his Speech the 23d of May last, viz. That the Army an ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e been raised since the 29th of Sep. last, not exceeding the 27th of July/ it passed in the negative, 167 to 164. The second question, 4 That the time shall be enlarged for disbanding the farces now be- yond the sea only, not exceeding thf 87th of july/ passed in the affirmative. 172 to 166. This was as instructions to the committee. Delate on the Bill for hindering Papists to sit in Parliament.] June 12. A Bill for hin- dering Papists to sit in either house of parliament without taking the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy, and the Test against Transubstantiation, was read the 2nd time. Sir John Trevor. I would no more speak against this bit ), than for idolatry. But it is a vain thing to send this bill up to the lords. It has been three times sent up already, and you have had no dispatch of it, there are s*v many lords papists in that house. There runs au opinion without doors, that it makes a disinherison to pass this bill. But if the lords will not pay their duty to the k»»g> and renounce those treasonable positions, they are not fit to sit there. I wish this bill roqy look, forward, that you let not every tree be there to bear fruit, £cc. The statute of queen Eli?, is, 4 Tiiat the members of the house of commons shall take the oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy, forasmuch as the queen is already satisfied with the duty and loyalty of the lords temporal, they shall sit without taking the Qaths, &q/ And because of this statute of the 5t, h of the queen, nod there ve so many 991] PAUL. 1UST0RY, 30 Charles IL 16/8. — [992 opish lords, they mill throw it out of their ouse. Therefore I would have the bill look forward that no lords shall sit there, for the future, either by descent, or be called by writ, that shall not take the Oaths prescribed in the bill for the better suppression of popery. Sir Tfio. Littleton. If this bill will not pass, no bill that you can ever make against Popery can hold. Trevor’s argument is, as if a man were ready to die of an acute distemper, and a physician should give him a remedy to operate 7 years hence. I have heard that the lords, in former bills for educating the children of Popish parents in the Protestant religion, called it the greatest inhumanity in the world.' Like Turks, that take away children of tribute from the Christians, the sharpest thing in the world ! They had rather you would hang them. But this bill breaks no bones, it is consistent with the rules of the government, and it is reasonable that they should be excluded from part of the legislature, &c. It carries no cruelty in it. It is a fair and a just bill, and if it pass not the lords house, it will be the fault of the commons, for we may make it pass if we please. Mr. Wm. Harbord. I am sorry to hear any arguments for jealousies and apprehensions that this bill should not pass the lords house. Look upon our neighbours; sec what they have done in France and Holland. In queen Eliz.’s time, the Protestants were favoured in France; their judges and parliament were mixed with them; they called it ‘ Chambre mipartie.' But since that, in France, &c. they have made laws so severe against them, as to root them quite out; and surely it is as wise for us, as for that great monarch, to be tender of our religion. Holland is full of sects, but they suffer no religion in the government but Calvinistical. If we cannot support our religion, it is a wonder wc should be contrary to all the world. Col. Birch. I believe, verily, popery to be idolatry; but I had rather you would look forward than backward, and not let popery grow up to a tree in the education of their children. It has been such a practice in France in either party; if parents have been Catholics, their children have been taken away to be educated. The reason of this bill may* turn against us another time. At such a jump, to turn so many lords and commons out of parliament! You know what I mean by this, should religion be changed. And I would give no countenance to any thing that loo ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e preserved as we have found it. Let those that come after us struggle as well as we, without these extreme and violent ways. Cannot a lord that is not a Protestant, give a vote whether leather shall be transported, as well as a commoner? Saying ‘ it is in our power to make the bill pass, ’ is an innovation as well as all the rest. We may save ourselves from the growth of Popery, in punishing those that go off from us. The danger, is, we know not what may be hereafter. I believe the Catholic Religion is idolatry. Bread in substance, transformed and transmuted into the body of our Saviour, &c. is intrinsic idolatry. As for that, spoken of, about ‘ their courts of justice in France and Holland, ' no measure can be taken betwixt them and us. But I can name a Protestant now, a counsellor of the parliament of Rouen. lie is sir Wra. Scott's son. So that holds not that is alleged. Mr. Pottle. I cannot be of Wheeler's opinion, ‘ to leave the kingdom as we found it.' That is, never to mend it. Had your predecessors been of that opinion, we had Popery long siuce established. I think the bill is very well calculated for this time. It meddles with nothing but keeping Papists out of the government. I wish that the Protestants, all the world over, had no more severe treatment than to be excluded out of the government. They are men so obnoxious to the penalty of the law, that they have not freedom of votes; and I am against any man's sitting here, that has not that freedom. As for the children, &c. I think that a cruelty to take away your child to have bim damned, as that way in Turkey, tec. which is the worst sort of the Christian slavery. As for passing of this bill, there is much of it in our power. Within 12 months we have given great sums; and if we part with our money, ana have not some good bills, it is in vain to sit here. Sir Tho. Littleton. I desire to explain myself. This is called by Wheeler an innovation. But we know it was the ancient course of parliament to have Grievances redressed, before Money was given. But the innovation’ is to give money first, before grievances are redressed. Mr. Wm. Harbord. I know a lord lieutenant and a colonel that are Papists still. [He was called to name them; but the question was put, and carried for committing the Bill.] Debate on the Speaker's reproving sir Tho. Meres for sitting up late.] June 15. On the Speakers touching upon sir Tho. Meres, by way of reproof, for sitting up so late at night that be came not timely in the morning to make his Report from the Committee of Privileges, Sir Tho. Meres said, It is not true, that I sat up so late last night. Several took exceptions at his reply to the Speaker. Sir John Hot ham .I think both the Speaker and Meres were to blame, for what they said. I would have the thing rest, and go no farther. I have respect for them both. Mr. Sec. Coventry. I would have Meres explain himself in this, as one gentleman would do to another. The Speaker. If I said that Mercs sat up late last night, ' I hope it is no crime to say so. What is said to the Speaker, is said to you all; and if you will put it up, I will. Sir Tho. Meres. It is the fint occasion I have given to mispend your time, these 18 993] PARL. HIST. 30 Charles II. I678. — The King demands an additional Revenue. [994 years. I grant I might have said it in the words, it is not so/ if there was heat in yon, or oie, I am sorry for it. But I must say I did not sit up late, for I was not well, and so went home late. When the house declares the words not fit to be said, I will say so too. Upon the whole matter, I desire I may not be the occasion of mispending the time of the house. % , Sir John Ernly. Though Birch tells you, * That among friends such words may pass/ yet it is the way to lose friendship by such words. I think Meres has asked the pardon of the house, and I would pass it over. Sir Tho. Meres. So many of the words ns are applicable to the Order of the house, I am sorry for. But for the other, of the reflection, hereafter instead of saying it is not I must sa^y it is not so/ Sir Iho. Littleton. If ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Praemunire (legal term) MATCH TEXT: 'praemunire' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e, if this horrid Plot had come to effect, it might have converted the duke to our religion. He is our king in presumptive kuccession, and let us use him like such a one. Sir Henry Cupel. The duke has made the advance to the parliament by his behaviour, in informing the lords he will retire. Let us not cast him out of our arms. It is entirely necessary that we be unanimous. If we once divide, we give him all the advantage against «s imaginable. I have great respect for his person. His father, with my father •, suffered m the Rebellion; but if I cannot separate my interest from his person, I must divide from him. We all agree as to making such laws, that, should the duke be king, it might not be in his power to prejudice the protestant religion. I move, therefore, not to lose the fruit • Lord Capel. — removing the Duke of York. [1034 of this debate; and as you have been told, he has removed himself from the king’s councils* you may agree to that; and as for removing him from the king’s person, adjourn that debate to another time. Col. Titus. There are ways to make things look tragical. We are told of ‘tearing the duke from the kingbut that is not the question, but Whether the duke shall withdraw from the king’s person, for some time, till some laws are passed, which we fear he may obstruct.’ If I suspected that my father would set my house on tire, I would take the brand out of his hand, but I would not cut his throat; and if he, that is at the helm, would run the ship upon a rock, I would take him from it. Mr. Sncheverell. If this he so tender a matter, 1 wonder, now the safety of the kingdom is in danger, we should put it off for two pr three days. I have read a little in the law, but I would have the gentlemen of the long robe tell me, whether any degree or quality whatsoever, of aoy subject, can patronize any correspondence with the king’s enemies? or whether the king and the parliament may not dispose of the succession of the crown ? and whether it be not praemunire to say the contrary ? let them resolve this question, whether there has not been a male-management ? if not in the king’s ministers for some years past, let them name the persons who have jiad the influence over affairs. But as to the point of the Address, I am not satisfied whether it be our interest; hut if it be, I will go higher and higher. The debate was adjourned to the 8th. Nov. 8. Sir John Coventry. We talk here of Popery, and the heir of the crown protects papists. I move for the business of the day, about removing the duke. There are papists now walking about the court of requests. Mr. Sec. Coventry. I know not what that gentleman would have. There is all the care taken imaginable to clear the court of papists, night and day, by the council. One man drops a letter in an entry at Whitehall as a papist, another as a protestant, and takes liberty to impute any crimes to any man or woman whatsoever. I know not what can be more done than is done already. Mr. Sec. William on.When it shall pleas * God (as in the oourse of nature) that we lose the king, you may be fortified with such law* as may be for yours and his safety. The king, I may say, will say something to you of this nature tomorrow. Sir Thu. Meres. I think those papists walking in the Hall is a contempt of the kingls proclamation. It is no great matter for them to go ten miles out of town. If you do not something immediately, you will show remissness. Suppose the case had not been a papist, but fanatic; he would have been otherwise used. This ought, this very hour, to be punished, or we cannot sit here with honour or safety. Sir Wn 1.Hickman. If the papists intend mischief, they will strike presently; therefore, 1035] PARL. HISTORY, 30 Charles II. 1678. — Bedlow’t Narrative. [1036 as Meres has moved, I would not be baffled in the'proclamation, but take present remedy to secure yourselves from these mens attempts. You cannot else be safe. The debate v^s again adjourned to the 14th. Colemans ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'Private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s breach of the peace, may be expelled the house. Mr. Booth. Trelawney caine to Ash and reflected upon his family for being Presbyterians and rebels. You can do no less than send him to the Tower, and expell him the house. Mr. Ben net.When I consider the noise without doors, and how your members are reflected on for what they do here: and that when I had the ill luck to displease the court, they said, 4 there goes such rt rogue, he is for a commonwealth ?’ and when families are reflected upon, notwithstanding an act of uidera- 1047] PARL. HISTORY, 30 Charles H. 1678. — tent to the Toaer. [1048 nity and pardon, what will be the end of all this 1 Though X can justify myself from all this. My father and grandfather were for the king, yet I have heard myself called fanatic/ where I durst not answer again. Whoever calls a man rebel* here deserves to be expelled the house, and 1 would have but that one punishment for Trelawndy. Sir John Talbot. Your first question must be ‘ whether Trelawney was the first aggressor/ Sir Ch. Wheeler. He that strikes again, makes himself his own judge. Both have broken your order. [He was mistaken, and out, and so sat down ] Sir RobDiUi’igton. It was my chance to be by, when the difference happened between these two gentlemen. Col. Birch said, he was an old soldier, and was for making a safe retreat, and the best way now was for a bill of Toleration/ Trelawney said, I am not for tolerating presbytery/ Nor 1/ says Ash, ‘ for popery.' And this was all the provocation that Ash gave to Trelawney. Sir Tko. Mercs. Trelawney names presbytery* first, and strikes first; pray determine that, and then come to the rest. Earl of Aiicram. Where the honour of the house is concerned, I will speak my mind freely. I will not come to the provocation, but the action. It is one way to do an act out of the house, and another in. A blow struck in the house of commons is a blow struck at all the commons of England; all are struck, and it may go farther. Private persons must not wound all the commons of England. I leave it to you. Mr. Williams. I hope yoti will not make rur own court less than Westminster-Hall. would punish Trelawney by expelling him the house. Sir John Ernly. 1 move that Trelawney may be sent to the Tower, and then that you will consider what to do with Asb. — I would not consider the provocation on one side or the other. We saw the blows, bat heard not the w ords. Both struck, and pray send them both to the Tower. Mr. Sec. Coventry. If you expel Trelawney, ou take away the freehold of them that sent im hither. The law considers mediums, when things are done with intention and in cold blood. I would know, what a gentleman should do, in such a case as this. But the fact is done; put therefore such a question, as you have examples and precedents of. Send them both to the Tower. The Speaker. I must do right to the house. The first question moved for was, ‘ whether Trelawney should be expelled the house/ The previous question for expelling Trelawney passed in the negative, 130 to 110. Sir J. Trelawney sent to the Tower.] The Speaker. I will make you a motion, that sir J. Trelawney may be sent to the Tower, there to remain during this session/ The person of Mr. Ash is nearest in relation to me, and I would be nearest in ray service to him. But pray regard your own honour, regard yourselves. Sir Tho. Merit. What you have moved is most worthy, and I am for it. Resolved, " That sir Jonathan Trelawney be sent to the Tower, there to remain during this session of parliament." Mr. Ash reprimanded.] Mr. Williams. Where the law acquits him, I suppose you will not condemn him, here. It being true that Trelawney said the words, you have punished Mr. Ash by commitment to the serjeant. It is true, a man may strike in his own defence; it is lawful. It is plain, the first provocation was from Trelawney. What happened from Ash is justifiable iu law. Serj. Gregory. I hope you will not punish a man that has committed no fa ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e king, to tavc a care of iiis person, &c/ The Answer was, ‘ the king was then busy, hut we should hare an account of our Message/ but for 3 weeks we heard nothing, and we were prorogued. I take notice only how things grow by degrees. We cnineup to this parliament with great joy, and expectation of doiTig good, and now we aie thus interrupted ! This being our condition, and we having precedents plain in the case for us, I would adjourn till tomorrow, and then make a Representation of the thing to the king. Col. Birch. I am heartily sorry this has happened. This is an unlucky 6tumble at the threshold, before we get into the house. I came hither with an intention (God-is my witness) to make this a healing parliament/ I have always heard here, that it is the undoubted right of this house to chuse their Speaker, &c. 1 have reason to believe Mr. Seymour very proper for the employment, and that he wrnuld be acceptable to his majesty; but he that did this with the king may do more. I would adjourn till tomorrow, and make a Representation of our right to the king. Mr. Pvule. This gives me apprehension that there is some person too near the king, who is al’raid of this parliament. I have observed that, of late, those things of the greatest moment are done without any council at all; done in a corner. As for the prorogation and the dissolution of the last parliament, there was not one word of the advice of the privy council iu it. 1 fear no advice was asked, but given for supporting the designs of private men. I have ever taken the record to be, that no man was ever refused being Speaker when presented to the king, but lor some disability of body; as in sir John Popham’s case, who desired to be excused from that service by reason of disability of body from wounds be had received in the wars, '28 lien. vi. And lately sir Job Charlton, not being able to endure the employment, by reason of disability of body. But nothing of this can be objected against Mr. Seymour. - Must any private person inform the king of his unfitness, without any cause assigned ? I know not wlmt may come of it. Cor ruption, in the former parliament, was complained of for private malice, but I doubt not but gentlemen come to this with clear thoughts. I do protest before God, that I think the greatness of the nation is under the privileges of this house. A‘people can never heartily support that government that does not protect them. A slavish people can never heartily support the government. Those that come alter us, here, if we are dissolved upon this point, will speak the same language. I fear not dissolution. Let us adjourn till tomorrow, ’ . 1678-9. — Debate09 the rejection(IO96 and consult our own hearts what is fit to be done. — Then the Clerk put the Question for adjourning. March 8- Sir Tho. Lee. It is now 11 of the clock, and it is necessary we propose what to do before the black rod comes; whether you will do something previous; whether you will acquaint the king what we suffer for want of a Speaker; or whether you will propose somebody to say something at the lords bar to the king ? I move you to consider which you will do. Sir liarbottle Grimstove. I second that gentleman. Some of the Long Robe, I believe, have taken pains to search for precedents. My eyes are not good, and 1 am infirm, and not able to search. Bat thus much I shall say to the rational part. The question is, Whether the king’s approbation of a Speaker is the substance and essence of the matter? For my part I never took it to be so. When you wait upon the king with your Speaker, he is your Speaker so soon as you have chosen him, and you may lay the mace upon the table. When you go up with the Speaker to the lords house, you go up to tell th$ king that, according to his direction, you have chosen a Speaker. It has been a thing of course to give the king notice of the person you have chosen, that he may know him; and we stand by, and give the Speaker leave modestly to deny, and exercise his oratory. If ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sed any, these hundreds of years/ that is a strange inference. I think it the best expedient to chuse a third person. Mr. Garroway.I am not much frighted, nor much invited to sit, since I find, at the beginning, what entertainment you are likely to nave at the latter end of the parliament. We are only uuhappy that the king does not consider our Representation. Let us try the king whether he will or no, for one day. I would not yield up our right, and, I believe, the king will find out an expedient, and neither infringe our liberty nor his own prerogative. I have nown whole sessions defeated in a day, by a prorogation, and if this be done, by the same counsel it may be again. I pray that, with all duty imaginable, the king may be farther addressed in the matter; and if he will not give us an Answer, theu I would put the question of our right. Sir Tho. Clarges. This point of prerogative, that has stuck these hundreds of years, will raise that other scruple to break you. There is great difference betwixt matters of grace and matters of right. This of chasing our Speaker, is so much of the essence of parliament, that we cannot part with it. When was any Speaker, that presented, ever refused ? If nothing of thatt be, but absolute power in the king; suppose five or six Subsidies should be demanded, ana you make application to the king, and represent, That the commons arc poor and cannot raise them all/ and the king should answer, 1 Go your ways, consider what I have said, and raise them.’ I am afraid that, when you have chosen your Speaker, and that is over, still you will have blocks and interpositions in the way, and ill counsellors will be encouraged to advise yet worse. The same Answer may be given to our three requests of Freedom of Speech, &c. If my borough that I serve for should ask me, Why we did not chuse another Speaker?’ I will answer, Because I will not part with their right.’ I advise, therefore, that we do as was done in the former king’s time, in the Petition of Right; that we apply to the king for a better Answer to our Representation. Serj. Maynard. This is not a question to put the ruin of a nation upon. The last parliament, pursuing things with zeal and truth, yet were dissolved. I could not have believed it. I believe that gentlemen have in this mat-, ter spoken their hearts, and 1 believe I shall speak mine too. What is your evidence for this right that you pretend to ? From R. ii.’s and Hen. iv.’s time, there has been no denial of the Speaker that you bave chosen. Because it has not been denied, cannot it be denied ? why do you let the Speaker excuse himself at the lords bar, and not accept his excuse here; if a man can shew the fruits of his ancient possession, though his evidence be lost, yet that goes a great way. It is said, (by this we shall lose our privilege, and Speakers may be rejected without end.’ It cannot be presumed that our Speakers will be rejected till one be got for the turn; that will be too gross. We come here for the good of the king’s crown, and the government, and posterity, as well as for our own present good. If we demand just laws of the king, he grants or rejects them, and it is matter of grace, and not of right; and that is a greater prerogative tbaa rejecting or accepting a Speaker. That which astonishes me is, we have dangers at home and abroad. This matter of right is not clear to me. But it is clear that we shall be ruined by a breach with the king. Mr. Solicitor Finch. I think it a good expedient to chuse a third person for Speaker, and I think it not fit to represent to the king what he has twice denied us. The king’s negative power is as much aschusing a Speaker. Mr. Vaughan. What higher testimony can a subject have for all be has than records? I would not show the way here to cancel records. When we consider that 30 laws were broken by the Declaration for Liberty of Consciencei 1109] PARL. HISTORY, 30 Charles II. and money given for a Fleet, and we bad no Fleet, money for an Army, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nd security the crown of England can attain to, and which can only help us to give check to the growing greatness of France. Scotland and Ireland are two doors, either to let in good or mischief upon us; they are much weakened by the artifice of our cunning enemies, and we ought to inclose them with boards of cedar. — Popery and slavery, like two sisters, go band in hand, and sometimes one goes first, sometimes the other; but wheresoever the one enters, the other is always following close at hand. — Io England, popery was to have brought in slavery; in Scotland, slavery went before, and [>opery was to follow. — I do not think your ordships, or the parliament, have jurisdiction there. It is a noble and ancient kingdom; they have an illustrious nobility, a gallant gentry, a learned clergy, and an understanding, worthy people:but yet, we cannot think of England as we ought, without reflecting on the condition they are in. They are under the same prince, and the influence of the same favourites and councils; when they are hardly dealt with, can we that are richer expect better usage ? for it is certain that in all absolute governments, the poorest countries are always most favourably dealt with. — When the an- lords made the order for his commitment; and when he did disappear, it was only to take sanctuary at Whitehall." Ralph. 1117] PARL. HISTORY, 31 Charles U tient nobility and gentry there cannot enjoy their royalties, their shrievaldoms, and their stewardries, which they and their ancestors have possessed for several hundreds of years; (but that now they are enjoined by the lords of the council, to male deputations of their authorities to such as are their known eneipiesjcan we enjoy our Magna Charta long under the same persons and administration of atfairs ? if the council-table there can imprison any nobleman or gentleman for several years, without bringing him to trial, or giving the least reason for what they do; can we expect the same men will preserve the liberty of the subject here? — I will acknowledge, I am nut well versed in the particular laws of Scotland; but this I do know, that all the northern countries have, by their laws, an undoubted and inviolable right to their liberties and properties; yet Scotland hath outdone all the eastern and southern countries, in having their lives, liberties, and estates subjected to the arbitrary will and pleasure of those that govern. They have lately plundered and harrassed the richest and wealthiest counties of that kingdom, and brought down the barbarous Highlanders to devour them; and all this without almost a eolourable pretence to do it: nor can there be found a reason of state for what they have done; but that those wicked ministers designed to procure a rebellion at any rate, which, as they managed, was only prevented by the miraculous hand of God, or otherwise all the papists in England would have been armed, and the fairest opportunity given, ip the just time for the execution of that wicked and bloody design the papists had; and it is not possible for any man that duly considers it, to think other, but that those ministers that acted that, were as guilty of the Plot, as any of the lords that are in question for it. — My lords, I am forced to speak this the plainer, because till the pressure he fully and clearly taken off from Scotland, it is not possible for me, or any thinking man to believe, that good is meant to us here. — We must still be upon our guard, apprehending that the principle is not changed at court; and that these men are still in place and authority, who have that influence upon the mind of our excellent prince, that he is not, nor cannot be that to us, that his own nature and goodness would incline him to. — I know your lordships can order nothing in this, but there are those that hear me can put a perfect cure to it; until that be done, the Scot-lsh weed is like death in the pot, mors in olla :* but there is something too, now I consider, that most immediately concerns ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Private Persons ['private person']; Praemunire (legal term) ['Praemunire'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ed, and no question now put upon it, and go on upon it, ns soon as the Lords in the Tower are tried, and no business whatsoever to be interposed; and when we are once come again to this debate, whoever is here may personally say, he owns or disowns the Resolution, and not leave it to a few gentlemen to debate and argue, and the rest to slip away, but that every man may have his share in it; and if we part with this debate, we do not wisely. If the Judges see the commons faint and tender in this matter, the Judges will be so too in judging this law, and the lords will shrink and be tender too. As this Bill will be hard for the duke, so it is hard for us to be deprived of our civil liberties, which will be at the power of a prince that governs as the pope shall give his determination. -When popery is introduced, but for one prince's reign, the pope will dispose of the royal family as well as us; therefore when I speak against Popery, I speak for the royal family; and in speaking this, I speak for all good and virtuous men. If it be Exclusion, or Banishment, of the duke, let the Resolution be what it will, it is for our security. Mr. Boscawen. I do not take this matter we are upon, but with all the circumstances that attend it, and then I take it for granted, that if there be any more probable means to preserve the protestant religion amongst us, than what have been proposed, I shall not differ at all. But if you consider the horrible Plot which has made the papists an irreconcileable party, and that a protestant king is in danger of his life, much more will religion be in danger when a papist comes to the crown. By being willows, and not oaks, men have kept their places at court; which makes me expect little effect from what has been proposed in relation to the king’s and chancellor's Speeches. No confession, of faith binds a man to any allegiance to a prince secluded the crown by law. As for Hen. iv. there was no law to seclude him from the crown, and he was but a private person, and the people ought not to have taken up arms against him. But where there is a law for it, they are betrayers of the protestant religion, if they do it not when in their power. We ought to consider the chancellor's first Speech, and not that last Speech. Now 1135] PARL. HISTORY, 31 Charles II. l679* — -Debate Monty paid to [1136 you have an opportunity to secure the protestant religion, do it; else, posterity will curse Jrou in your graves. The whole protestant re-igion in Europe is struck at, in a Popish Succession in England. If the protestant religion keeps not up its head now, under a protestant king, it must be drowned under a popish. Suppose the succeeding prince should he a lunatic, as the king of Portugal was, and they had no way of securing the government, but by preterniitting him — Much more in our case, if the security of an act of parliament be as good as any security for the right of the crown. Queen Eli *, had no right to the crown, but by act of parliament, and she made it Praemunire, by law, for any man to hold the contrary, &c. and yet some gentlemen say, it is against law/ We must have a law to secure this law, else you will be infamous. I am clearly of opinion, that till we go against popery, beyond retreat, we shall have no happy days; and then, 1 hope, we may see happy days. But pApery and French government are almost check-mate* with us. There is no probability of security the other way proposed. Would you have parliaments make laws without a prince ? or would you have the government in conservators hands, such as we may confide in? That would look like a commonwealth, and I know no such great men that we can trust upon such an account; besides, they have no power, and will be insignificant. Making clergymen and justices of the peace will signify nothing. A troop of horse, and a file of musketeers, will easily turn us all out of doors. Let us know what we have to trust to. But the several proposals made to secure the King’s Person, and the Protestant Religion (except this Bill proposed) look like gold, but are but leaf-gold when you touch them. Whatever becomes of us, let us preserve the protestant religion, and pray put the question for the bill. After further debate, and some contest, for candles, or no candles, the Vote was carried in these words:Resolved, " That a Bill be brought in to disable the duke of York to inherit the Imperial Crown of this Realm." The house divided, those for the Bill went out, and those within soon removed from their seats, and would not be counted, but yielded the question. And a committee was appointed to draw it up. The Commons resolve to stand by the King with their Lives and .] Resolved, nem. con. " That in defence of the King’s Person, and the Protestant Religion, this house doth declare, That they will stand by his majesty with their Lives and Fortunes; and that, if his majesty shall come by any violent death (which God forbid !) that they will revenge it to the utmost upon the papists." And an Ad ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ment-men, and not to another, you may guess by that, for 1 could in the last parliament have told you bow the question would go. If a pensioner went not well, slash he was put out of his pension. Sir Joseph Tredenluim. A Pension to be-, tray ones country is a detestable thing to receive by any body, and I do utterly deny to have received any. 1 had the honour of the favour of my prince, and I had his favour when I made application for it. Avarice was never my humour. A gentleman having a small government called Cheade Castle, which lay nearer me, upon a reversionary patent, I was put upon it to get him to resign his government. He had 250/. and 250/. for quitting that Castle. I have had the honour here to be a zealous asserter of the Protestant religion, and in the country so too. As for my vote here, I gave it for Money, that the king should not supply his necessity by extraordinary means. II. 1 679' — hSir Stephen Fox. [1146 Sir Fr. IVinning ton. As for what Treden-bam says of the nature of the Secret Committee, he need not reflect on the secret committee, but that it borders upon ‘ secret service/ I have heard that Tredenham has reported, That because he defended the duke of Lauderdale, 1 would be revenged of him.' As for this Castle, &c. when I was Solicitor General I passed a warrant, &c. but I appeal to him whether he told me of the 500/. ? because he has given some spurring blows towards me, I desire he may name the person. Sir Joseph Tredenham. 1 desire that grace for my passion which I must allow for others. This putting me in the van of the Report of these gentlemen, does look like something of pointing at me. 1 have had considerable places offered me, but 1 would not have gentlemen turned out for roe. As for this of Lauderdale, it is but a hearsay. Sir Fr. Winnington.He dwindles this of Lauderdale to a flying report. There are thirty before him in the list, but had he been last you would have found him out. Mr. Harhord. This is a hardship, that a private person should use one so, that has done you service. If Tredenham got a castle one way, Winnington lost one of the best places in England, (Solicitor General,) fof doing his duty here, and 1 hope God will reward him. Sir Henry Capcl. It is no wonder, if the Committee of Secrecy go new ways to work, (as Tredenham alleged,) you must consider that never such new things were done before. Winnington 1ms most dexterously and prudently made enquiry into this matter of the Pensioners, and it becomes you to be very severe to any man that makes such reflections. [Many called Tredenham to the Bar.] Sir 27/o. C larges. What need you call for proof? Tredenham has confessed ‘ That he had 500/. to enable him to buy a Castle/ Hf called to Wiunington, ‘ Prove it, prove it.’ very peremptorily, and you ought to censure him. Sir Joseph Tredenham. I beg pardon for being too ready to give credit to a report, but when I consider the smallness of this matter of the Castle, which 1 did buy only for convenience of the situation near my estate, I submit to your censure, and beg your pardon. Pray consider how difficult it is for me to spegk, I have had no time to prepare myself. Sir llichnrd Wiseman at the bar. The Speaker. The house is informed that you have disposed of several Pensions, of four times 400/. per ann. From whom did you receive the Money, and to whom did you pay it, and for what use ? Sir R. Wtsemin. Those I received and paid I will give an account of in writing. 1 never employed it for a Mr. Knight, nor received it for Mr. Knight. 1 know one Knight, sir John Knight’s son; when 1 saw him last, he was of the Temple; he had no transactions in the Money. 1 named him, because you, Mr. Speaker, named him. 1147] PARL. HISTORY, 31 Charles II. 1679* — [1148 The Speaker. Not long since, in the last session of parliament, you kept a good table; of whom had you the money to maintain it? Wisnnun.My Tenants gave me my money to keep my Table. I had no money from sir Stephen Fox, nor Mr. Be ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f the house, you must expect what will follow. Wiseman.I have told you, I remember not to have received 400/. per nnn. from Fox. I cannot remember other sums. I persist in it. none by the king’s order. So far as I am able, on the sudden, 1 will give you an account. When the Excise was let by lord Cliftbrd, it was for 500,000l. per ann. Some friends put me upon it to farm the Excise. We gave 20,000l. per annum more, and 70,000l. advance money, for which service the king directed I should receive some money, but I remember not the particulars; there was hut one contract. I acted by another party. I cannot tell whom. I do now remember the man, it was alderman Ford. I know not whether I received 7, 8, or 900/. The Speaker. Did you receive any money from Mr. Bertie ? Wiseman stood mute some time, and then answered, 1 have not received any money from Mr. Bertie this year and a half. I had no order for continuance of my Pension out of the excise. That which the king gave me was annual, but I received it in a gross sum. I sold the annual pension I he king gave me for 7, 8, or 900/. The pension was not granted me for life, but till the king declared otherwise. The assignment of the pension was made to the commissioners, or farmers; I believe it was assigned to major Huntington, Mr. Dawson, and sir John James.’ This lie-spoke drawning-ly, and withdrew. The further consideration of the Report was adjourned to the 27th. The Habeas Corpus Act .] May 26. Sir Robert Clayton was just giving an account of members who had Pensions out of the excise, upon consideration of their farms, when the black rod knocked at the door, and commanded the house to attend the king in the honse of lords, w here his majesty passed the Habeas Corpus Bill. * * The great, essential, and inestimable service done to the people of England, by this parliament, was in perfecting the Habeas Corpus Bill; which had been so long in agitation, and by which many wholsome provisions were made, to preserve the liberty of the subject from the invasions of the prerogative. Abuse of power, and the prevention of such abuses for the future, are the causes assigned in the preamble of the Bill for the enacting clauses it is composed of:The most material of which are, 1. To c.blige all sheriffs, gaolers, ministers, or others, whe n served with a writ of Habeas Corpus, to obey it, within days after the said service, by carrying up the body of the person thci ciu named to the court, or judge, by whom 1149] PARL. HISTORY, 31 Ciiarlis U The Parliament dissolved.] After passing the said Bill, his majesty made this short speech to both bouses: " My lords and gentlemen; I was in great hopes that this session would have produced great good to the kingdom, and that it would have gone on unanimously for the good thereof. But to my great grief, I sec there are such differences between the two houses, that I am afraid very ill effects will come of them. I know but one way of remedy for the present, assuring you, that, in the mean time, I shall show my sincerity with the same zeal I met you here. Therefore, my lord chancellor, I command you to do as I ordered you." His lordship accordingly prorogued the parliament to the 14th of August. But before that day, it was dissolved by proclamation *. .the said writ was granted; and before him to certify the true causes of his detainer and imprisonment, on the penalty of 100/. for the first otTence, and COO/, and to he made incapable of holding his office, for the second:As also, under the like penalties, to grant the prisoner a true copy of the warrant of commitment and detainer, within six hours after demand. 2. To provide that no person shall be re-committed, for the same offence, after being enlarged by order of court, on the penalty of 500/. Also, 3. That if any judge, either in term-time, or vacation, refused any prisoner their Habeas Corpus, upon application, he should forfeit 500/. to the said prisoner. And 4. That no subject of this realm should be any longe ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ndustrious in the contriving of Reports and Plots, to remove the ill reports they lie under, and have had a great influence in mauaging of parliamentary affairs; so we may presume they have bad in the dispensing of justice, as may appear by considering what hath been done by our judges of late. — At Wakenian’s Trial, those persons who at former trials bad been treated with that respect that is dae to the king’s evidence, and whose credit and reputation had stood clear without exception in all other trials, were now Vol, IV. not only brow-beaten, but their evidence presented to the jury as doubtful, and not lobe depended on; and so at all other trials of papists from that time forward. By which many of the greatest offenders were quitted and cleared as to the Plot, and those that were brought for defaming the king’s evidence, and suborning witnesses in order thereto, very kindly treated, and discharged with easy sentences, especially if papists; hut if protestants, though only for printing or vending some unlicensed Book, were imprisoned and largely fined. But I beg leave to particularize in the case of one Carr, who was indicted for printing a Weekly Intelligence, called, ‘ The Packet of Advice from Rome; or, the History of Popery/ This man had a strange knack of writing extraordinary well upon that subject, and the Paper was by most persons thought not only very ingenious, but also very useful at this time, for the information of the people, because it laid open very intelligibly the errors and cheats of that church. However, upon an Information given to the court of KingVBench against this Carr, this Rule was made: ‘ Ordi- * natum est, quod liber intitulat, The Weekly * Packet, &c. non ulterius imprimatur, vel ‘ publicetur, per aliquam personam quatneud- * que. Per. Cur/ — I think it amounts to little less than a total prohibition of printing any thing against popery. — The true English pro* testants being thus prevented of having parliaments to redress their Grievances, and to secure them against the fears of popery, as also from petitioning for parliaments, or writing for the protestant religion, they had recourse to their old way of presenting grievances by juries. But advice being given, that some great papists were concerned in the presentment, particularly the duke of York, the jury was dismissed in an extrajudicial manner, and so no remedy in the world allowed for poor protestants. What an unhappy star were we born under, that things should be thus carried against us, in the whole course of our government, whilst we have a wise protestant king over us ? What may not be expected under a popish king, if it should be our misfortune to have any? And therefore, I think, sir, we ought to endeavour to prevent it, by consulting in the first place how to suppress popery, and prevent a popish successor, which is my 1mmble motion. Mr. Montagu. Sir, you have heard what an influence the Popish party hath had in the management of all our affairs of greatest importance, almost ever since his roaj.’s happy Restoration; how the making of peace, or war, or foreign alliances, hath been overruled by that party, to the great danger of the nation, and Protestant Religion both at home and abroad: insomuch as it may be justly feared, that there is a general design to root out that religion from the face of the earth; which may not be difficult to be done, if bycstablishing Popery here, assistance to the Protestants abroad may be prevented; or by destroying the Pro- 4 F 1171] PARL. HISTORY, 32 Charles II. lestants abroad (which are so many bulwarks to us) we should be left to resist alone. You have also heard how that party hath influenced the resolutions made touching parliaments and affairs here at home. The truih is, sir, that interest is crept into our court, and hath a great power in our councils; it is crept into our courts of justice, and hath a great command in our army, our navy, our forts, and our castles, and into all places upon vhiclv our security depends. And it is impossible it should be otherwise, as long as we have a Popish Successor, and that parly the hopes of a Popish king. And I humbly conceive that it is very ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Right of the Subject ['Right of the subject']; Right of the Subject ['Right of the Subject']; Right of the Subject ['Right of the Subject']; Right of the Subject ['Right of the Subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Liberty of the Subject ['Liberty of the Subject']; Right of the Subject ['Right of the Subject']; Right of the Subject ['right of the subject'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ased to put the question. Resolved, net* *, con. M That it is the opinion of this house, that they ought to proceed effectually to suppress Popery, and prevent a Popish Successor." Resolved, " That an Address be made to his majesty, declaring the Resolution of this house, to preserve and support the king’s Person and Government, and the Protestant Religion at home and abroad." Petitioning the King, voted to he the Right ef the S«3; 7c*.] Oct. 27. Sir Gilbert Gerrar'd. * • " In the beginning of Jan. sir Gilbert Gerrard, and oue Mr. Smith, accompanied by eight other gentlemen, presented a Petition to his majesty, for the sitting of the parliament, in the name of some thousands of his subjects, inhabitants of London, Westminster, and the places adjacent; but met with a very ungracious reception; his maj. declaring, 4 That he looked upon himself to be the head of the government, and the only judge of what was fit to be done in such cases; and that he would do what he thought most for the good of himself and his people.' His majesty likewise expressed his concern to find one of sir G. Gerrard’s name, and particularly sir Gilbert himself, in such a thing; and, when sir Gilbert would have replied, turned aw ay in displeasure. But this mortifying reception did not deter others from treading the same path. They * were now sensible, that the laws had no hold of them; and frowns they did not fear. Tho. Thynne, esq. accompanied by sir Walter St. John, and sir Edward Hungerford, presented a Petition in the name of the county of Wilts: sir Rob. Barrington, col. Mildmay, Mr. Honey-wood, &c. another for Essex:and certain other gentlemen a third, for Berkshire. All were alike discountenanced: except that the king made a jest of the Berkshire application:whereas he treated that of Wilts as coming from a company of loose, disaffected people/ 1680. — Petitioning the King voted [117‘2 J Mr. Speaker, I crave leave to mind you of a ‘ great infringement which hath been made of the liberty of the subject, since the last session of parliament. Sir, many good Protestants thinking it very strange, that two parliaments should be dissolved, without doing any thing material against Popery, and a third so often prorogued in a time ol such imminent danger; and foreseeing the ruin such delays might bring upon them, resolved to petition his majesty; and accordingly in several counties and corporations, Petitions, humbly praying his majesty to let the parliament sit, were drawn up, and signed by many thousands of good subjects, in a peaceable and quiet way, and delivered to his majesty by no greater number of persons than is allowed. But although this was conformable to law, and the duty of good subjects, considering what danger his majesty’s person and the Protestant Religion was in, yet it was traduced to his majesty as seditious and tumultuous, and forbidden by a Proclamation, and great affronts and discouragements given to such, as either promoted or delivered the said Petitions; and at last several persons in many places were set up to declare at the assizes, and other public places, an Abhonency and Detestation of such petitioning. Mr. Suehcrerell. Sir, I humbly conceive the subjects of England have an undoubted right to petition his majesty for the sitting of parliaments, and redressing of Grievances; and, that considering the circumstances we are under, we have no reason to lose it. If it should be our unhappiness to have a popish king, maybe because it had not the sanction of the Grand J ury:and as to that of Essex, he took occasion to reproach col. Mildmay, though indirectly, with the mercy he had received by the Act of Oblivion; to which he added a caution, 4 That such as had stood in need of that Act would do well, not to take such courses as might need another.' But, notwithstanding all this severity, still several other Petitions were presented, though from persons of lass eminence; and, in particular, one from Taunton, as the king was coming out of the bouse of lords, the day he had in person declared to both houses his resolution to postpone the session; and his majesty asking the presenter, 4 IIow he dared do that r’ 4 Sir/ said he, ‘ n»J 4 name is Dare.'" f A most humourous description of the manner of procuring these Petitions is thus given by Mr. North, in his Examen, p. 342: " Bat, t This person was a goldsmith of that town, and was selected to be made an example of: not tor petitioning, though in spite of the Proclamation; that could not be done: but for speaking seditious words: for which be was first sent for up to Council, in custody; and afterwards prosecuted, and fined 300/. And the town of Taunton, profiting by his example, took occasion soou after, to disown his Petition publicly in the Gazette, No. 1301. 1173] TARL. HJST0RY, 32 Charles II. not be surrounded with popish counsellers, so I as that poor Protestant subjects may be debarred of all other ways whatsoever of making | known our complaints, to him; and must we lose this too? Sir, I think it is so necessary, and materia] a privilege to the subject, as that we ought, witiiout loss of time, to assert our rights to it: and therefore 1 humbly move you to make some Vote to that purpose. Sir F. Winninglon. Sir, I am not only of opinion with that worthy member that spoke last, as to making a Vote for asserting the Right of the subject to petition their prince, but also for chastizing of those who have been so wicked and abominable as to traduce it and abhor it. And to that purpose, I think, sir, it will be convenient that we find out who advised or drew that Proclamation against it, and examine how a Petition that was made in Berkshire, was ordered to be taken off the file at a Quarter-Sessions, if worthy to-be so called, for the effecting so great a work as this, it was necessary to institute a method of proceeding, and to retrench the laborious part as much as they could. And thus it was done:Petitions in form, as had been authentically prepared for the sake of the unlearned, were written, or, as I take it, printed upon parchments of a prescribed width, with large blanks underneath; and these were put into the hands of agitants and sub-agitants in the countries about, branching forth so nice as into hundreds, towns, and villages, if any thing populous, or affording confiding persons to negociate. And these Agitators, being choice party-men, and well instructed, went to every free voter, and indeed every one, as they came in their way, demanding their hands to the Petition; and did it in such a manner, as a plain man knew not well whether it was lawful for him to refuse or no. And when this hand-tax was gathered, the parchment-petition was sent up to a select assembly or club, who had this administration in charge. And there the bead-roll of hands and marks was cut off the several Petitions out of one county, except one; and to that all the rest were glued. So there appeared a fair Petition, intituled, rom all the Freeholders, &c/ And, the roll being opened and extended, there appeared more shapes thau ever dreams presented, looking as if they were alive, and, like insects, crawling about, or as the halfformed equivocal vermin in the mud of Nile; but looking closer, they all shewed themselves no other than hieroglyphics of clowns. And, rather than want a due number of these monsters, it was common for the Agitators, or their masters, to forge marks and names, as they would have, and so save a great deal of trotting about, without so much as seeing the parties, or caring whether they approved it or no. But, for certain, the work was carried on with such pragmatical impertinence and impetuosity, as well as insolence and scandal to the government, that words can scarce represent the true genius of the proceeding." 1680. — jo be the Right of the Subject. [Ilf 4 I there being but four Justices of the Peace, and two of them such obscure persons as 1 cannot I get their names. And also make some inspection into those Addresses that have been made against Petitioning, and by whom contrived, signed, or delivered. But this must be a work of time; for the present, I humbly move you to pass one Vote to assert the Right of the Subject to petition the king, another of censure on those persons that have traduced it, and to appoint a committee for your farther proceeding herein. It was then Resolved, " 1. That it is, and ever hath been, the undoubted Right of the Subjects of England to petition the king, for the calling and sitting of Parliaments, and redressing of Grievances. 2. That to traduce such Petitioning as a violation of duty, and to represent it to his majesty as tumultuous or seditious, is to betray the Liberty of the Subject, and contributes to the design of subverting the anueut legal constitution of this kingdom, and introducing arbitrary power. 3. That a committee he appointed to enquire after all such Persons, that have offended against the Right of the Subject." Col. Titus. Sir, I am very glad these Votes have past so unanimously; for Popery and Arbitrary Government can never be set up in this nation, if we could be sure of frequent parliaments. And therefore the asserting of the right of the subject in any thing which tends to that, may be of great use to this nation. But, sir, seeing you have taken this business into your consideration, I think we may do well to go a little further with it, even at this time. I am informed some members of the house are guilty of having acted contrary to those Votes; and I am of opinion, that as they were not willing that we should sit here j so that we should be as willing not to have them sit amongst us. For, if it were a great crime in others, much more in those that were chosen to assert the rights and liberties of the people. It is very unlikely that men of such principles should make good parliaiuent-men; and 1 think it will very well consist with the justice of the house, to begin with a reformation amongst ourselves; and therefore I humbly move we may first proceed against 6uch. Being commanded to name such Members, he npmed sir Francis Withins, who not being in the house, was ordered to attend the next day. Sir R. Conn expelled.] Oct. 28. It having been proved, That sir Robert Cann, a Member, had publickly declared, That there was no Popish-Plot, but a presbyterian plot:and having, in his Defence, uttered several reflecting words against sir J. Knight, another Member, who confirmed the Evidence against« him, the said sir R. Cann was first ordered to die Tower, and then expelled the house. Sir F. Withins expelled.] Oct. 29. The commons resolved, " That sir F. Withins, by promoting and presenting to his majesty an Address, expressing an Abhorrence to petition his majesty for the culling and sitting of par- 1175] PARE. HISl’ORY, 32 Charles II, l6'S0. — Debate on bringing in [11/6 linments, hath betrayed the undoubted rights of the subjects of England." They then Ordered, That the said sir F. Withins be expelled the house, for this high crime. And, that he do receive his Sentence at the bar of this house, upon his knees, from Mr. Speaker, " which was done accordingly. 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" His majesty desires this house, as well for the satisfaction of his people, as of himself, to expedite such matters as are depending before them, relating to Popery and the Plot; and would have them rest assured, that all Remo-dies they can tender to his majesty, conducing to these ends, shall be very acceptable to him, provided they be such as may consist with preserving the Succession of the Crown in its legal course of descent." Debate thereon.] Mr. Boscawen. Sir, I look on all his majesty’s Speeches to parliaments, and Messages to this house, to be acts of state, and the results of serious councils; and therefore the more deserving our consideration:but also I think we may in some respects look on them as we do on letters pateot, or other grants in the king’s name; if in them there be any thing against law, the lawyer or officer that drew them is answerable for it. So if his Speeches be the product of council, if there be any mistake in them, it must be imputed to elie council, and we may and ought to conclude the king never said it, for be can do no wrong. I cannot, sir, but much admire what neglect of ours, as to Popery and the Plot, hath occasioned this message. Hath not most of our time been spent about examination of witnesses about the Plot, and in making inspections into the proceedings of the last parliaments ns to their transactions about it, that so we may proceed upon such grounds as we ought I Hath there any day past, in which we bave not done something as to the Plot and Popery, besides what we have done about the duke’s Bill ? Which alone is sufficient proof of our endeavours to discover the Plot and Popery, because it plainly appears that all the Plot centers in him, and that we can never prevent Popery, but by preventing that power to role, which is derived from a Popish Successor, and the having of a Popish king. It is true, we have spent some time also, in asserting the right of the people to petition the bine for parliaments, or other grievances; but I do not take that to be so remote to this affisir; for can the Plot ever be searched to the bottom, or Popery prevented, as our case stands, but by parliaments? And seeing there were so many prorogations of this parliament, when there were occasions so urgent for their sittings in order to search the Plot to the bottom, and to make laws against Popery, bave we not great reason to believe, that it was from that party that such strange endeavours were need to prevent the meeting of parliaments, from whom they know nothing but ruin Can attend them } Do we not see, by Coleman’s Letters, what contrivances they always had for to manage the meetings, sittings, prorogations, and dissolutions of parliaments r And why should me 1199] PARL. HISTORY, 32 Charles not believe they exercise the seme arts still ? Seeing it is plain that the dissolutions of the last two parliaments, and many prorogations of this, did not proceed from any Protestant interest; and therefore well may we conclude from whom. And for the same reason that they fear parliaments, have not the people reason to be fond of them, being the only legal way to redress Grievances? And could we have answered the neglecting of the asserting our rights in that particular? Sir, I think that, next to the duke's Bill, the asserting of the People's Right to petition, is the most necessary atfair we could have spent our time about, in order to have the Plot examined to the bottom, by conveying to his majesty the desires of his people, to have parliaments sit in order thereto. And therefore I am jealous that the Advice given for this Message, doth proceed rather from a fear that we are doing too much, than from our doing too little against Popery. However, sir, seeing the Message comes in his majesty’s name, let us, according to our duty, give all the compliance we can to it; and therefore I humbly move you, that a Message be sent to the lords, to desire them to appoint a day for the Trial of William vise. Stafford. Mr. John Hampden. Sir, 1 cannot but observe, that his majesty in his Speech made to us at the opening of this session, recommended to us the Examination of the Plot, and the making laws for the security of the Protestant religion, which is not yet above 20 days ago. And therefore it is very strange, in my opinion, that we should so soon receive another Message to the same purpose, especially considering bow we have spent our time ever since our meeting, in that which we have reason to think tends as much to the preventing of Popery, as any thing we could invent. The truth is, sir, I am fully persuaded, that the advice for this Message proceeds from the same men that advised the Dissolution of the two last parliaments, and the many prorogations of this; for though it may look like a contradiction, that going fast or going slow should tend to one and the same end, yet it doth so in this case:for by the dissolutions of those parliaments, and many prorogations of this, time was gotten for the disheartening of some witnesses, and tampering with others, anjl the death of the most material one; and now, by pressing upon this parliament to mak ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- eglected the Examination of the Plot, aod proceedings against Popery, ap- Voi. IV. pears to me like a kind of infatuation in those ministers that advised it. For, sir, is there any thing more obvious, than that this parliament have spent most of their time in matters relating to the Plot and Popery, and to make such laws as may prevent the coming in of Popery upon us ? And did not both the last parliaments do the same, from the time the Plot broke out ? And if I may take the liberty to prophesy, I nin apt to think, that the next, and the next, will proceed in the same steps, until such laws be made as are precisely necessary for the hindering of Popery from coming in upon us: And I pray God it may not be a cause why we shall have no parliaments to sit and act for a while. But, sir, as this is plain, so to our grief it is, that there are those about the king in great power, who are against the Examination of the Plot to the bottom, or making laws against Popery. Hath not this appeared by the great endeavours that have been used to stifle the Plot; the menacing and discouraging of the true witnesses, and setting up and encouraging of false ones? I mean, by the great power that accompanied those endeavours; but above all, by the great authority and interest, which that party have shewed in the dissolution of the last two parliaments, (though as to the first I heartily forgive them) and the many prorogations of this. And must they now, after they have stopped or smothered all proceedings that tended to destroy Popery, lor above two years, find fault that we have not brought all to perfection in two weeks ? Sir, this looks like such a profound piece of policy, as that of killing Justice Godfrey. But I am not sorry that their politics run so low. Such a pretence as this can only pass with persons that have a mind to be deceived. I will never doubt the prudence of the major part of the nation in this particular, who know that the non-prosecution of the Plot is the great grievance which the nation groans under; and the making of such laws whiolt may secure us against Popery, the greatest reason why they have so longed for a parliament, and adventured so much, as some did, in petitioning for one. And, sir, I think, that accordingly this house have not been wanting to do their duty therein; and therefore do believe that such representations to his maj. are made by such, as aim at the destruction of parliaments, and bringing in of Popery. But the bettor to present their taking any such advantage for the future, I could wish that we may not spend more mornings about Irish cattle, nor East-India trade, until the business of the Plot and Popery be more off our hands. But in order to satisfy his maj. of our obedience to his commands, f at-rec both for the committee, and Trial of the lord Stafford. An Address voted.] Resolved, " That a committee he appointed, to draw* up an humble Address to his majesty upon the debate of the house, in answer to his majesty's gracioua Message." l ord Stafford's Trial resolved on.] Resolv- 4 II 1203] PARL. HISTORY, 32 Charles II. ed, " That this house will proceed io the prosecution of the Lords in the Tower, and will forthwith begin with Wm. vise. Stufford." The Commons' Address, in Answer the Kind's Nov. 11. SirW'm. Jones * reported from the committee appointed to draw up sin Address to his majesty, upon the debate of the house, in answer to his majesty’s gracious Message; which being read, was agreed to by the house, as follows: " We your majesty’s most loyal and obedient subjects, the commons in this present parliament assembled, having taken into our most serious consideration your majesty’s gracious Message, brought unto us the 9th day of tins inst. Nov. do with all thankfulness acknowledge your majesty’s care and goodness, in inciting us to expedite such matters as are depending before us, relating to Popery and the Plot. And we do, in all humility, represent to your majesty, that we are fully convinc ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'right of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- he other side. He gained great honour in the debate; and Had a visible superiority to ford Shatishury in the opinion of the whole house: and that was to him triumph enough. In conclusion, the Bill was thrown out upon the first reading.' The Country Party brought it nearer an equality than was imagined they could do, considering the king’s earnestness in it, and that the-whole bench of bishops, except three, was against it." Burnet. " Till It o’clock at night the rage of altercation auil the lust of superiority kept up the contest, the king being present all the while, and the whole bouse of commons attending, who had adjourned their own proceedings to indulge their curiosity in observing the progress and event of this." Ralph. " This was one of the greatest days ever known in the house of lords, with regard to the importance of the business they had in hand, which concerned no less than the lineal Succession to the Crown. Great was the debate, and great were, the speakers:the chief of those for the Bill was the earl of Shaftsbury; against it, lord Halifax. It was matter of surprize that the latter should appear at the head of an opposition to the former, when they were wont always to draw together; but the business in agitation >vas against lord Halifax’s judgment, and therefore he opposed it with vigour; and being a man of the clearest head, finest wit, and fairest eloquence, he made so powerful a defence, that he alone, so all confessed, influenced the house, and persuaded them to throw oat the Bill." Reresby. The numbers on the division were 63 to SO. A Protest was entered on the occaeiou by lord Carow. they had appointed Tuesday come fortnight for the said T rial." Proceedings against sir G. Jcffct i«.] Nov. 13. Several citizens of London having before defivered in a petition against sir G. Jefferies *, the Recorder of the said city; and having made good their allegations before the committee appointed to enquire after persons who had offended against the right of the subject to petition, &c. the house resolved, " That the said sir G. Jefferies, by traducing and obstructing petitioning for the sitting of this parliament, hath betrayed the Rights of the Subject." — -Ordered, That an Address be made to his majesty, to remove sir G. Jefferies out of all public offices; and that the members for London Ho communicate the Vote of this house, relating to him. to the court of aldermen for the said city." Debate on his Majesty s Message concerning Tangier.] Nov. 17. His majesty’* Message about Tangier was read. His majesty did, io his Speech at the opening of this session, desire the advice and Assistance of his parliament, in relation to Tangier: the condition and importance of the place obliges his majesty to put this house in mind again, that he relies upon them for the support of it; without which it cannot be much longer preserved. His majesty doth therefore very earnestly recommend Tangier again, to the due and speedy care and consideration of this house.’ — A long debate ensued, in the course of which r Sir I Ym.Jones said, Sir, I am very sorry that the business of Supply for Tangier is now moved-; because 1 take it to be a place of great importance, and that, as well for the honour of the nation, as benefit of trade, it ought to be preserved. But, sir, wc bare now things of greater importance to look after, of so pressing a nature, and of so dangerous consequence, if delayed, that we cannot answer, either to oar king or our country, the preferring of this before it. It is a duty incumbent on us, to secure things at home, on which onr nil depends, before we enter into an expence of time about securing things abroad. If an enemy were but coming to invade us, it might be proper to fortify Dover-Cnstle, Portsmouth, or Plymouth, or any of our Port-Towns: but if an enemy were actually landed, it would be more proper to strengthen London, or other in-land cities or * This over-bearing lawyer, being afterwards made Lord Chief Justice, &c. was ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e doubt; aad those that advised the proclaiming to the people, that it is seditious to petition the king* without that chastisement they deserve. And therefore I humbly conceive, you will do well to consider of it as soon as you can. It is not strange, that the Proclamation shall be made use of with country gentlemen, to get Abhor-rers to petitioning; seeing the Judges themselves have made use of it to that purpose: they should have known, that though a Proclamation might be of great use, to intimate the observation of a law; yet it had never been used instead of a law. But yet I do not admire so much at this, as I do at the Discharge of the Grand-Jury, before they bid finished their presentments. It tends so much to the subversion of the established laws of this land, that I dare pronounce that all the laws you have already, and all that you can make, will signify nothing against any great man, unless you can remedy it for the future. I observe, there were two reasons why this Grand Jury were so extin-judicially discharged; one, because they Would otherwise have presented the duke of York for a Papist; the other, because they presented Petition to bfe 1225] PARL. HISTORY, 32 Charles II. delivered to the king, for the sitting of the parliament; which they said it was not their business to deliver. Though I cannot but observe, how, upon other occasions, they did receive petitions, and delivered them to the king; and all the difference was, that those petitions so delivered, were against sittings of parliaments. The truth is, I cannot much condemn them for it; for if they were guilty of such crimes as the witnesses have this day given you information of, I think they had no reason to Amber petitions for the sitting of a parliament. But, sir, this business will need a farther information; and therefore I humbly pray it may be referred to a committee. Sir Henri/Capet. This matter is of the greatest moment. We are under the security of parliaments for redressing our grievances, and another, out bf parliament, that the law have its course, that the Judges obstruct not the law. I observe that these Judges are grown omnipotent. They have done those things which they should have left undone/ This is very fine, that Judges, who must be upon the Bench, must be dropped at Whitehall, before they come to Westminster-Hall; and I know what law we must have, if they take instructions from those that advised the Proclamation against Petitioning. See the consequence; is it not as much ns to say, that the Judges know’ all the grievances of the country, and the Judgcsmust redress them, and we sit here but for form-sake ? All misdemeanors, and what is amiss in the nation, the Judges must rectify. This is such a presumption, that they must answer it. If this be done in Westminster-Hall, how dare grand juries in the country represent any thing that is amiss ? Suppose there should be an indictment of murdering a man's father Or brother, &c. and the Judges take upon them to discharge the jury; this stops all justice, and the consequence will be, men will murder us, and we kill them again. I move, therefore, that you will proceed to punish the offender in this great matter, and remedy the miscarriage for the time to come. Sir F. Winnington. Sir, I think we are Come to the old times again, when the Judges pretended they had a rule of government, as well as :i rule of law; and that they have acted accordingly. If they did never read Magna Charta, I think they are not fit to be Judges; if they had read Magna Charta, and do thus so Contrary, they deserve a severe chastisement. To discharge Grand-Juries, of purpose to disappoint them of making their presentments, is to deprive the subject of the greatest benefit and security the law hath provided for them. If the Judges, instead of acting by law, shall be acted by their own ambition; and endeavour to get promotions, rather by worshipping the rising sun, than by doing justice, this nation Will soon be reduced to a miserable condition. Suppose that after the discharge of this Grand-Jury, some person had offered to present some lnorder, treason, or other capital crime, for Want of the Grand*Jury there would have 16*80. — a Middlesex Grand Jury. [1226 been a failure of justice. As faults committed by Judges are of more dangerous consequence than others to the public; so there do not want precedents of severer chastisements for them, than for others. I humbly move you, first, to pass a Vote upon this business, of discharging Grnnd-Juries; and then to appoint ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- spoken ill of these Judges, I desire to speak well of them in one thing: I am confident they have herein shewed themselves grateful to their benefactors; for I do believe, that some of them were preferred to their places of purpose, because they should do wlmt they have done. Laws of themselves are but dead letters; unless you can secure the execution, as well of those you have already, as of those you ore now making, we shall spend our time to little purpose. Mr. Sachetercl. Sir, the business of this debate is a great instance of our sick and languishing condition. As our ships, forts, and castles, are for securing us from the danger of our enemies from abroad, so our laws from our enemies at borne; and if committed to such persons as will turn their strength upon us, are equally dangerous. Sir, we all know how the government of Scotland hath been quite altered since his majesty’s Restoration, by some laws made there; pray let us have a care that ours be not altered, by the corrupt proceedings of Judges, lest we be reduced to the same weak condition of defending ourselves against Popery and arbitrary government here, that they are there. If Judges can thus prevent the penalties of the law, by discharging Grand-Juries before they, have made their presentments, and can make laws by their rules of court, the government may soon he subverted; and therefore it is high time for this house to speak with those gentlemen. In former times several Judges have been impeached, and hanged too, for less crimes than these; and the reason was because they had broke the king’s oath as well as their own. If what hath been said of some of these Judges be fully proved, they shall not want my Vote to inflict on them the same chastisement. The truth is, sir, I know not how the ill consequences we justly fear from judges can be prevented, as long as they are made durante bene-ptacito.and have such dependencies as they have. But this must be ft work of time:in order to remedy our present Grievances, let us pass a Vote upon this business of discharging Grand-Juries; and that it may be penned as the case deserves. 1227] TARL. HISTORY, 32 Cu am.es II. Mr. H. Sidney, sir, I would beg leave to ob- serve to you, because I think it may be necessary to be considered by your committee what an opinion was giving not long since by some of these Judges about Printing; which was, that printing of news might be prohibited by law; and accordingly a Proclamation issued out. I will not take on me to censure the opinion as illegal, but leave it to your farther consideration. But I remember there was a consultation held by the Judges a little before; and they gave their opinion, that they knew not of any way to prevent printing by law; because the act for that purpose was expired. Upon which, some Judges were put out, and new ones put in; and then this other opinion was given. These things are worthy of a serious examination. For if Treasurers may raise money by shutting up the Exchequer, borrowing of the bankers, or retrenchments; and the judges make new laws by an ill construction, or an ill execution of old ones: I conclude, that parliaments will soon be found useless; and the liberty of the people au inconvenience to the government. And therefore, I think, sir, you have been well moved to endeavour to pass your censure on some of these illegal proceedings by a vote. Mr. Poiclc. Sir, in the front of Magna Charta it is said, 1 nulli negabimos, nulli differeinus justitiamwe will defer, or deny justice to no man:to this the king is sworn, and with this the Judges are entrusted by their oaths. I admire what they can say for themselves; if they have not read this law, they are not fit to sit upon the bench: and if they have, I had almost said, they deserve to lose their heads. — The state of this poor nation is to be deplored, that in almost all ages, the Judges, who ought to he preservers of the laws, have endeavoured to destroy them: and that to please a Court-Faction, the ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rest, which we have reason to understand to be the same with Popery; not a person being ployed in any place of command or trust, that ever declared against that interest. If 1 be mistaken in what I say, I desire to he corrected; I speak according to the best information I could have, and 1 believe all here know, what an exact scrutiny there hath been often made in all countries and corporations, lor the finding out of inen that way incliued, or otherwise so qualified, as are not fit to make any opposition to the doigns carried on by 124<)] PARL. HISTORY, 32 Charles II. the popish party. And if by chance any is put in, not fettered either by opinion or interest to that party, upon the first appearance he is presently discharged, as if he were a traitor to his country. And now, after a Jong interval of parliaments, and more and more discoveries of the reality and danger of the Popish Plot, what remedies are we like to oh> tain this session? I am afraid very few or none; for I must confess, I am still of opinion, there can be none without the Exclusion-Bill, which the lords have thrown oot without so much as a conference; ant} therefore I am afraid that what the witnesses have said they were told by several Jesuits, is true; That Popery was so clenched and riveted, that it did not lie in the power of God, nor man, to prevent the settling of it in this nation. And if we consider what an interest that party hath now at present, and how things are prepared to afford them a greater assistance hereafter; how a popish king, as well as our divisions and animosities, will contribute to it, though I hope, God will make them liars; yet I conclude, they have a great deal of reason to be very confident. And I see not how we can help ourselves, seeing there are so many ministers of state about the king, who are as a partition-wall between him and his people. I find in Coke's Reports, that when the nation was in apparent danger, the people might go directly to the king with their Grievances, and snake their Complaints and Petitions known. I think we may do well to consult this text, and see if we can find out any better way than what we have tried already, to convey our humble Supplications to his reyal person. In the mean time, I think you had not best to go off from the Bill of Association. Mr. Leveson Goner. Sir, I would not discourage you from going on with these Bills; but I am afraid they will fall far short of the power and strength that will be necessary to root out an Interest that hath been above 100 years riveting itself by all arts and ways imaginable, and hath now fixt itself so near the throne. I must confess, I am afraid we are at labour in vain, and that this interest hath so clenched itself, (as the Jesuits term it) that it will break not only this parliament, but many more, if not all parliaments, and the Protestant Religion too. It is too weighty to be removed, or perverted, by such little Bills as these:no, sir, you will find, that nothing less than a firm union amongst all the Protestants in this nation can be sufficient to give any check to this interest. As long as there are amongst us so many persons, ns know not rightly how to apply the dangerVof the Church and State, nor the miseries of 1611, hut will be led by Popish projectors, I am afraid-such Bills as these will not do our business: because they will not destroy that footing which they have at court, nor strengthen the Protestant Interest, which must have its original from union. It is strange that none but those who are for the duke's interest should be the Vol. ll\ 1680. — Mr. Seymour's Impeachment. [1250 only persons thought fit to be in places of trust! It is so strange a way to preserve the Protestant Church and Religion, that it raiseth with me a doubt, Whether any such thing he designed. Such persons may be proper to manage affairs in favour of the Popish interest; but it is to be admired, that they, and they only, should be thought fit to be intrusted with the ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by such advisers, which I cannot believe; because what they propose is, in my opinion, a contradiction in itself. Without the Exclusion Bill, there can be no expedient but what will leave us in that miserable condition, of having, first or last, a contest with our kwful king. And there can be no such tiling as setting up a power to oppose him, hut by putting a kind of supreme authority in the parliament; with a fiower to oppose, as well by making war as aws, which might prove the destruction of the monarchial government. The said trust or power (without the Exclusion-Bill) being not to be reposed in the next heir, or any single person, lest he should die before he come to have the power in him, or utterly refuse to act, if he should live to have a right, by virtue of such a settlement, to administer the government. In such a case, there would be ne 1255] PARL. 11IST. 32 Charles II. l6S0.- 1 lawful power lodged any where else, to oppose such a king, and there must not be an Inter-regnuin. By this short account you may see, what difficulties all expedients will be liable to; and may conclude, that those that advise the king to make this limitation, do intend it as an expedient to make the endeavours of parliaments ineffectual, and to bring in Popery. And if you had offered at such expedients as I have mentioned, as the last house of commons was arraigned for omnipotent and arbitrary, so would this with some worse character; as having attempted to destroy the monarchial government, that if possible the king and people might be put out of love with parliaments. But, sir, though it is plain, that things are thus out of order, yet let us not be wanting in our duty, but give such an Answer to his majesty, as may, if possible, create in him a good opinion of this house, and satisfy him of the necessity of the Bill of Exclusion; and that all other acts of grace will but serve to fatteu us for the slaughter of our enemies. Mr. (Jurron ay. If you do not represent all your Grievances in this Address, ns the condition of your giving Money, whatever you shall offer at afterwards will be looked upon as clamourous, and out of order. And therefore I would advise you, not to omit any one Grievance you expect any remedy in. And I am for enumerating all your Grievances, in the Address, which have been lately debated. And I do admire nobody takes notice of the Standing Army; which if not reduced to such a number as may he convenient for guards, and so limited, that they may not be increased, unless in case of a rebellion, or an invasion, all your laws may signify nothing. And I am not satisfied in the making such general offers of Money. For if you do, you will hear in time, that the Fleet needs one million; Alliances, as much more; and Tangier (though I think not worth keeping) little less. Resolved, after further debate, " That a committee be appointed to prepare an humble Address to his majesty, upon the debate of the house, in answer to his majesty’s Speech." The Commons? Address, in Answer to the King's Speech.] Dec. 00. Mr. Hampden reported the Address; which was read and agreed to, as follows: " We your majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the commons in this present parliament assembled, having taken into our serious consideration your majesty’s gracious Speech to both houses, on the loth of this instant Dec. do, with all the grateful sense of faithful subjects and sincere Protestants, acknowledge your majesty’s great goodness to us, in renewing the assurances you have been pleased to give us, of your readiness to concur with us in any means for the Security of the Protestant Religion, and your gracious invitation of us, to make our desires known to your majesty. But with grief of heart we cannot but observe, that, to these princely offers, your majesty has been advised (by what secret enemies to your maj. - The Commons’ Address on the Speech. [1255 and your people, we know not) to annex a reservation, which, if insisted on in the instance to which alone it is applicable, will render ail your majesty’s other gracious inclinations of no effect or advantage to us. Your majesty is pleased thus to limit your promise of concurrence, in the Remedies which shall be proposed, that they may consist with presetting the S ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- esty’s proclamations should liave any credit:for his majesty put out several proclamations against Papists, and we see how they are regarded, not the least obedience yielded to them: and this giving of such short notice, was certainly done on purpose that those proclamations should neither be obeyed nor believed. Thus is the king abused, thus docs he lose the hearts of the people, and thus is the nation abused:what will become of us when we cannot believe what his majesty says. Out of parliament the king cannot speak to his people in a more notable way than by proclamation, and as the matter is ordered, these are not regarded:in a subject nothing is more infamous, than to say of hiru, that his word is not to be relied on, he does not regard what he says:and therefore what villains are they, who by their advice, do bring the king hut into the suspicion of it. This delaying of parliaments seems to portend the tayinj of parliaments aside; and if so, an army will follow:for the king must govern either by parliament or an army, for one of them he must have; now the way to get rid of parliaments is this:first, although they meet some* times, yet something must be started to hinder their success; or if that won't do, prorogue or dissolve them before any thing be .finished:and thus parliaments will be made useless; and this being done, it will uot be long before they become burdensome, and then away with them €or good and all. — Kings only then grow out of conceit with parliaments, w hen their favourites •re so overgrown, and their actions are so ex- . — Mr.Booth's Speech Jor Parliaments. [1272 orbitant, that they will not endure to be scanned by a parliament: and therefore to save them* selves, they persuade the king to keep off the parliament, though it be to his great hurt: for the last Trump at the Day of Judgment will not be more terrible to the world, than the sound of an approaching parliament is to unjust ministers and favoui lies. — That state sick of a grievous distemper, when kings neglect their parliaments, and adhere to favourites, and certainly that woe is then fallen upon the nation, which Solomon denounces; for says he, Woe to that nation whose king is a child; ’ and without question he meant a child in understanding, and not in years. We hare had in England kings who when they were children, by the help of a wise council, have governed very well; but after that they took matters into their own hands, it went very ill with England; as Rd. ii. Hen. v». who whilst they were children, the government was steered aright; but their understanding not growing as fast a9 their years, they assumed the government before they were ready for it; and so managed matters, that it is better not to uaioe them, than to reckon them in the catalogue of the kings. — And there is yet another reason why great favourites should advise against parliaments:kings that dote too much upon their favourites, do for the most part pick up mean men, people of no fortunes or estates, upon whom it is that they place their favour to so hiuli a degree:and therefore it is for their interest to advise the king to govern by an Army, for if lie prevails, then they arc sure to have what heart can wish; or if he fail, yet they are but where they were, they had nothing, and they can lose nothing. — There is no roan but very plainly sees, that there are people about lus maj. w ho advise him to shake off the letters of the laws, and to govern arbitrarily; and I wish that their advice has not prevailed tor the most part; yet I think his majesty’s own inclinations do not bend that way, for be seems to love quiet and ease, which no prince can have that rules by an Army: therefore, before we can expect that his mnj. will come in to us, these people of arbitrary principles must be removed from his throne: for, whilst there are the same advisers, we must expect the same advice; whilst there are the same enua-sellors, we must expect the same results:end tins atone will not do it, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'right of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Right of the Subject ['right of the subject']; Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- upon the last day of the said term; which day then was, and, by the known course of the said court, hath always heretofore been given unto the said jury, for the delivering in of their Bills and Presentments: by which sudden and illegal discharge of the said jury, the course of justice was stopped maliciously and designedly, the presentments of many papists and other offenders were obstructed, and in particular a bill of indictment against James dulce of York, for absenting himself from church, which wns then before them, was prevented from being proceeded upon. — III. That whereas one Henry Carr had, for some time before, published every week a certain Qook, intituled, 1275] PARL. HIST. 32 Charles II. 1680-1. — Im Lord C. J. Scroggs. [1276 * The Weekly Pacquet Advice from Rome; or, The History of Poperywherein the superstitions and cheats of the Church of Rome were from time to time exposed; he the said tir Win. Scroggs, then Chief Justice of the Court of KingVBench, together with the other judges of the said court, before any legal conviction of the said Carr of any crime, did, in the same Trinity-Term, in a most illegal and arbitrary manner, muke, and cause to be entered a certain Rule of that court, against the printing of the said book, in hac verba r 4 Dies * Mercurii proximo post tresseptiuianas sancta * Trinitatis, Anno 3ft Car. ii. Regis. Ordinn- * turn est quod liber intitulat, 4 The Weekly * Packet of Advice from Rome; or, the His- * tory of Popery, ' non ulterius imprimatur vel * publicetur per aliquam personam quameun- * que. Per Cur/ And did cause the said Carr, and divers printers and other persons, to be served with the same; which said rule and other proceedings were most apparently contrary to all justice, in condemning not only what had been written, without hearing the Crties, hot also all that might for the future written on that subject; a manifest countenancing of Popery^ and discouragement of Protestants, and open invasion upon the right of the subject, and an encroaching and assuming to themselves a legislative power and authority. — IV. That the said sir Wm. Scroggs, since he was made Chief Justice of the King’s Bench, hath, together with the other judges of the said court, most notoriously departed from all rules of justice and equality, in the imposition of Fines upon persons convicted of misdemeanors in the said coort; and particularly in the term of Easter last past, did openly declare in the said court, in the case of one Jessop, who waa convicted of publishing false news, and was then to be lined, that be would have regard to persons and their principles in imposing of Fines, and would set a hue of 500/. on one person for the same offence, for the which he would not line another 100/. And according to his said unjust and arbitrary declaration, he the said sir Win. Scroggs, together with the said other justices, did then impose a Fine of 1001 upon the said Jessop; although the said Jessop had, before that time, proved one Hewit to be convicted as author of the said false •news. And afterwards in the same term did fine the said Hewir, upon his said conviction, only 5 marks. Nor hath the said sir Wm. Scroggs, together with the other judges of the said court, had any regard to the nature of the offences, or the ability of the persons, in the imposing of Fines; but have been manifestly partial and favourable to Papists, and persons affected to, and promoting the popish interest, in this time of imminent danger from them:and at the same time have most severely and grievously oppressed his majesty's protestanl subjects, as will appear upon view of the several Records of Fines, set in the said coort; by which arbitrary, unjust, and partial proceedings, many of his majesty's Lege people have been ruined, and Popery countenanced under colour of justice'; and all the mischiefs and excesses of the court of Star-Chamber, by act of parliament suppressed, have been again, in direct opposition to the said law, introduced. — V. That he, the said sir Wm. Scroggs, for the farther accomplish::'.* of his said traitorous and wicked purposes, and designing to subject the persons, as well as the estates of his majesty's liege people, to his lawless will and pleasure, hath frequently refused to accept of Bail, though the same were sufficient, and legally tendered to him by man? persons accused before him only of such crimes, for which by law bail ought to hate been taken; and divers of the said persons being only accused of offences against himself; declaring at the same time, that he refused Bail, and committed them to goal, only to put them to charges; and using such furious threats as were to the terror of his majesty's subjects, and such scandalous expressions as were a dishonour to the government, and to the dignity of his office. And particularly, that he, the said sir W. Scroggs, did, ia 1679, commit and detain in prison, in such unlawful manner, among others, Henry Carr, G. Broome, Edw. Berry, Benj. Harris, Fr. Smith, sen. Fr. Smith, juu. and ‘Jane Curtis, citizens of London:which proceedings of the said sir W. Scroggs are a high breach of the liberty of the subject, destructive to the fundamental laws of this realm, contrary to the Petition of Right, and other statutes, and do manifestly tend to the introducing of arbitrary power. — VI. That the said sir W. Scroggs, ia farther oppression of his majesty's liege people, hath, since his being made Chief Justice of the said Court of King’s Bench, iu an arbitrary manner granted divers General Warrants tor attaching the persons, and seizing the goods of his majesty’s subjects, not named or described particularly in the said warrants; by means whereof many of his majesty's subjects have been vexed, their houses entered into, and they themselves grievously oppressed contrary to law. — -VII. Whereas there hath beea a horrid and damnable Plot contrived and carried on by the Papists, for the murtbering the king, the subversion of the laws and government of this kingdom, and for the destruction of the Protestant Religion in the same; all which the said sir W. Scroggs well knew, having himself not only tried, but given judgment against several of the offenders; nevertheless, the said sir W. Scroggs did, at divert times and places, as well sitting in coott as otherwise, openly defame and scandalize several of the witnesses, who had proved the said treasons against divers of the conspirators, and had given evidence against divers other per* sons, who were then untried, and did endeavour to disparage their evidence, and take off their credit. Whereby, a* much as in hi* lay, he did traiterously and wickedly suppress and stifle the discovery of the said Popish Plot, and encourage the conspirators to proceed tf 1277] PARI-HIST. S2 Charles If the same, to the great and apparent danger of his majesty's sacred life, and of the well-established government, and religion of this realm. VIII. Whereas the said sir W. Scroggs, being advanced to he Chief Justice of the Court of King’s Bench, ought, by. a sober, grave and virtuous conversation, to have given a good example to the king's liege people, and to demean himself answerable to the dignity of so eminent n station; yet he the said ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'Liberty of the Subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- lsea, Creswel Darper, Sir Stephen Leonard. Winchester, Lord Annesly, Sir John Cloberry. II indsor, Richard Winwood, Samuel Starkey. It ilton, Thomas Herbert, Sir John Nicholas. Wiltshire, Sir Walter St. John, Thomas Thynne. Woodstock, Henry Bertie, Nicholas Bainton. Wout on/» John Pledal, Henry St. John. Wyzan, Earl of Ancrain, Lord Colchester. Worcestershire, Thomas Foley, Bridges Nanfan. Worcester City, Sir Francis Winuington, Henry Herbert. Yai mouth, (Norfolk) Sir James Johnson, Geo. England. Yarmouth, (Hants) 1 Sir Richard Mason, Thomas Wyndham. Yorkshire, Lord Clifford, Lord Fairfax. York City, Sir Henry Hewley, Sir Henry Thompson. John Birch. Speaker — Mr. Serjeant Williams. Tht Katg’s Speech on opening the Session.] Both houses being met, the king made this Speech to them: " My lords and gentlemen; The unwarrantable proceedings of the last house of commons, were the occasion of my parting with the last parliament; for I, who will never use arbitrary government myself, am resolved not to suffer it in others. 1 am unwilling to mention particulars, because I atn desirous to forget faults; but whosoever shall calmly consider what offers I have formerly made, and what assurances I renewed to the last pari.: how I recommended nothing so much to them, as the Alliances 1 had made for preservation of the general peace in Christendom, and the further examination of the Popish Plot, and how I desired their advice and assistance concerning the preservation of Tangier; and shall then reflect upon the strange, unsuitable returns made to such propositions, by men that iverc called together to consult; perhaps, may wonder more, that I had patience so long, than that at last I grew weary of their proceedings. — I have thought it necessary to say thus much to you, that 1 may not have any new occasion given me to remember more of the late Miscarriages: it is as much my interest, and it shall be as much my care as yours, to preserve the Liberty of the Subject; because the crown can never br safe when that is in danger:and I would hare you likewise be convinced, that neither your liberties nor properties can subsist long, when the just rights and prerogatives of the crown are invaded, or the honour of the government brought low, and into disreputation. — 1 let you see, by my calling this parliament so soon, that no irregularities in parliament shall make me out of love with them; and by this means, offer you another opportunity of providing for our security here, by giving that countenance and protection to our neighbours and allies, which you cannot but know they expect from us, and extremely stand in need of at this instant; and at the same time give one evidence more, that I have not neglected my part, to give that general satisfaction and security which, by the blessing of God, may be attained, if you, on your parts, bring suitable dispositions towards it: and that the just care you ought to have of Religion, be not so managed and improved into unnecessary fears, as may he made a pretence for changing the foundation of the government. I hope the example of the ill success of former heats, will dispose you to a better temper, and not so much inveigh against what is past, as to consider what is best to be done in the present conjuncture. The farther prosecution of the Plot; the Trial of the Lords in the Tower; the providing a more speedy Conviction of Recusants; and, if it be practicable, the ridding ourselves quite of that party, that have any considerable authority or interest amongst them, are things, though of the highest importance, that hardly need to be recommended to you, they are so obvious to every man's consideration, and so necessary for our security. But I must needs desire you, not to lay so much weight upon any one expedient against Popery, as to determine that all others are ineffectual:and, among all your cares for Religion, remember, that without the safety and dignity of the Monarchy, neither Religio ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e merits of their cause. As if to make sport with death, he ordered a certain number to be executed, while he and his company should drink to the kinc’s health, or to the queen’s, or to judge Jefferies’s. Observing their feet to shake in the agonies of death, he cried that he would give them music to their dancing; and he immediately commanded the drums to beat and the trumpets to sound. By way of experiment, he ordered one man to be bung up three times, questioning him at every interval, whether he repented of his crime: but the man obstinately asserting, that, notwithstanding all the past, he would still willingly engage in the same cause, Kirke ordered him to be hung in chains. One story, commonly told of him, is memorable for the treachery, as well as barbarity which attended it. A young maid pleaded for the life of her brother, and flung herself at Kirke’s feet, armed with all the charms, which beauty and innocence, bathed in tears, could bestow upon her. The tyrant 1683. — The King’s Speech at the [1368 following Speech to both houses: which was afterwards read by the Speaker: " My lords and gentlemen; After the storm was inflamed with desire, not softened into love or clemency. He promised to grant her request, provided that she, in her turn, would be equally compliant to him. The maid yielded to the conditions:but after she had passed the night with him, the wanton savage, next morning, showed her from the window her brother, the darling object for whom she had sacrificed her virtue, hanged on a gibbet, which he had secretly ordered to be there erected for his execution. Rage and despair and indignation took possession of her mind, and deprived her for ever of her senses. — All the inhabitants of that country, innocent as well as guilty, were exposed to the ravages of this barbarian. The soldiery were let loose to live on free quarter; and his own regiment, instructed by his example, and encouraged by his exhortations, distinguished themselves in a more particular manner by their outrages. By way of pleasantry he used to denominate them his iambs; an appellation, which was long remembered with horror in the west of England — The cruel Jefferies succeeded after some interval; and showed the people, that the rigours of the law might equal, if not exceed, the ravages of military tyranny. This man, who wantoned io cruelty, had already given a specimen of his character in many trials, where he had presided; and he now set out with a savage joy as to a full bat* vest of death and destruction. He began at Dorchester; and thirty rebels being arraigned, lie exhorted them, hut in vain, to save him, by tlicir free confession, the trouble of trying them: and when twenty-nine were found guilty, be ordered them, as an additional punishment of their disobedience, to be led to immediate execution. Most of the other prisoners, terrified with this example, pleaded guilty; and no less than 292 received sentence at Dorchester. Of these 80 were executed. Exeter was the next stage of his cruelty: 243 were there tried, of whom a great number were condemned and executed. He also opened his commission at Taunton and Wells; and every where carried terror and astonishment alon^ with him. The i juries were so struck with his menaces, that they gave their verdict with precipitation, and many innocent persons were involved with the guilty. And on the whole, besides those butchered by the military commanders, 251 are computed to have fallen by the hands of justice. The whole country was strowed with the heads and limbs of traitors. Every village almost beheld the dead carcass of a wretched inhabitant. And all the rigours of justice, unabated by any appearance of clemency, were fully displayed to the people by the inhuman Jefferies." Hutne. * " Now that the parliament is on the eve of meeting, they begin in London to talk about the matters that will be agitated in that assent-6ly; it is difficult yet to judge of their success; 1369] PARL. HISTORY, 1 James II ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ot govern them himself; and then what will become of us ? Sir Willoughby Hickman. The Rebellion is suppressed, and the Army is urged to be small, but it is so thick of (Jtficeis, that by filling up the Troops, which is easily at any time done, increases their number to a third part more. I am for providing for them hut one whole year only, and only for 400,000l. Mr. Coningsby. I agree to the 400,000l. We owe besides a duty to our country, and are bound by that duty to leave our posterity as free in our liberties and properties as we can; and there being Officers now in the army, that have not taken the 'J est, greatly flats my zeal for it, and make me esteem the Militia; of which if well modeled, and placed in mens hands of interest in their country, we are certain, and so is the king secure; for there is no such security of any man’s loyalty, as a good estate. Reasons I have heard given against armies, that they debauched the manners of all the people, their wives, daughters, and servants. Men do not go to Church where they quarter, for fear mischief should be done in their absence. Plough-men and servants quit all country-employments to turn soldiers; and then a court-martial, in time of peace, is most terrible. In peace, justices of it, and the civil magistrate, ought to punish, if applied to. And what occasion then can be for them ? Is it to suppress a rebellion in time of an invasion ? All then will go towards that. Or is it to assist his allies ? The house will give aid, when wanted, on that score. The Guards I am not against; those showed themselves useful in Vernier's .business, and the late Rebellion; I am not against them: I only speak of those thnt have been new raised. Ool. Ashton. I will tell you tire use of these forces; they expected the rising of a great party, and were not these forces standing, to prevent a a Rebellion, you would have one in a few days. Mr. Blaithwayte. If any disorders have been committed, it is not yet too late to have them redressed; and martial law (if by that cleared) does not hinder proceeding at common law for the same thing:is not enough; no state near us, in proportion, but what exceeds this small number of men. Sir Tho. Clarges. Seven millions of men in England; the strength of England consists in our marine, in which (for want of men) France can never equal us; their trade will not breed them; a ship of fifty tons will carry 100,000l. of their goods, linen and silks. Ours are balky goods, and employ twenty times more, unless you (by burdening of 1685. — and the Way of raising it. [1382 trade) let them into the West-Indies. Armies are not manageable; commanders have been very often known to rebel: the measure of our Supply is our security. His majesty’s Declaration says, If on complaint, the Officers give no redress, then complain to the king; ’ and so justice is baulked by this hardship put upon the complainant. Sir Wm. Trumbull* moved to have it tem- porary from year to year. Sir Christ. Musgrave. Let it be, to enable his majesty to preserve us in peace at home, and to make his majesty formidable abroad, for 1, 200,000l. as a Supply answerable to the loyalty of this house. Sir Hugh Cholmondeley.This house was so forward to give last time, that, the king’s ministers gave their stop to it. Sir John Werden.The use is to direct tho quantum. I see a present necessity for continuing these Forces, till the Militia is made useful; I am for- trying two years, and so for 400,000l. and so leave the door open for coming hither to give another time. Sir Tho. Meres. The principle of the rebel party is never to repent. 1 am for 1, 200,000l. and if so much be given, I would have you, gentlemen, to remember that the Fanatics are the cause ot it. Mr. Pcpys. An island may be attacked, notwithstanding any fleet. Ours is much mended, a thousand men daily at work, ever since we gave money for it, nnd not one man in it an officer, that has not taken the Test. Col sOglethorp.New troop9 are not ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- of this reign to introduce tyranny both in Church and State; the Judgments given for the Dispensing Power; the introduction of a Jesuit to the Council Board; the reception of the Pope’s Nuncio; the sending an Ambassador to Rome; the attacks on both the Universities; the committing the Bishops to the Tower, &c. are all too well known to be here recited. On the 10th of October 1688, the prince of Orange, who was now on the point of embarking his troops for this country, issued his first Declaration from the Hague: with which we shall commence our Fifth Volume. i APPENDIX. APPENDIX TO VOL. IV. N° I. The Long Parliament revived; or an Act for Continuation, and the not Dissolving the Long Parliament, (called by king Charles the First, in the year 1640) but by an Act of Parliament; with undeniable Reasons deduced from the said Act, to prove that That Parliament is not yet dissolved. Also Mr. William Prynne s Five Arguments fully answered, whereby he endeavours to prove it to be dissolved by the King s Death, &c. By Thomas Phillips, Gentleman, a sincere Lover of his King and Country. * AnNO IT Caroli Regis. — An Act to pre- vent Inconveniences which may happen by the untimely adjourning, proroguing, 4 or dissolving of this present Parliament. « Whereas great sums of money must of * necessity be speedily advanced and provided for relief of his majesty’s army and people in * the Northern parts of this realm, and for * preventing the imminent danger this kingdom * is in, and for supply of other his majesty’s 4 present and urgent occasions, which cannot * be so timely effected as is requisite, without * credit for raising the said monies; which * credit cannot be obtained until such ob- < stacles be first removed as are occasioned by * Fears, Jealousies, and Apprehensions of divers his majesty’s loyal subjects, that this * present Parliament may be adjourned, pro- * rogued, or dissolved, ' before Justice shall be * duly executed upon Delinquents, public Grievances redressed, a firm Peace between * the two nations of England and Scotland * concluded, and before sufficient provision be < made for the Repayment of the said Monies so to be raised: all which the commons, in * this present parliament assembled, having ‘ doly considered, do therefore humbly beseech * your most excellent majesty that it may he * declared and enacted — And be it declared * and enacted, by the king our sovereign lord, 4 with the assent of the lords nud commons in this present parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, That this i resent parliament, now assembled, shall not be d.s- * London, printed for the Author, and are Co be sold at the Castle and Lion iu St Paul’s Church Yard, 1661. Vet. IV. Appendix. 4 solved, unless it be by Act of Parliament to be passed for that purpose. Nor shall it be, 4 at any time or times, during the continuance thereof, prorogued or adjourned, unless it be by act ot parliament to be likewise passed for that purpose. And that the house of peers shall not, at any time or times, during this E' resent parliament, be adjourned, unless it e by themselves, or by their own order. 4 And in like manner, that the house of commons shall not, at any time or times, during this present parliament, be adjourned, unless it be by themselves, or by their own order. 4 And that all, and every thing and things whatsoever done, or to be done, for the ad- joiirmnent, proroguing, or dissolving of this present parliament, contrary to this Act, 4 shall be utterly void and of uone effect. * The Long Parliament revived. To the end the peace of this nation may be established upon a firm and lasting found a* tion, and that, after one shipwreck hardly escaped, we run not blindfold again upon a more fatal and irrecoverable rock of confusion, the author of this Small Paper, out of tender compassion to his native country, and with all humble respect^ of due allegiance and honour to his royal majesty that now is, bath thought fit (with the ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- d why. should wise men attempt impossibilities ? The Angel c ixiv] Uriel presents a pertinent moral in the Parable of Woods and Waters. The Forest would make ^ar with the Seas to make room tor the trees, and the Seas with the Forest to enlarge 'the vast dominions of their-waves. Hut tiie Fire consumed the woods, and numerous Sands withstood the Waters; and both their attempts were vain. — Your honours are yet in peace, God be praised; yet every man hath not forgotten the late war. The French counsellor (president Gcnin) was not mad when he told the King, ‘ 11 valoit mieux avoir une paix oil il y avoit Deux Religions, qu’une guerre ou il uy cn avoit point/ [It is hotter to have Peace with two Religions, than a War with none.] — The J.ord deliver us from the tyrant thatniea-. sured all rnen by his own bed; and from such fools as will make every man as wise as themselves; or, from wise men that will convert by Club Law, and convince men with the unanswerable arguments of Smithfield or Tyburne. This will hardly come within the compass of, * Do as you would be done by/ — An illiterate priest, in his passage by sen from Ancona to Venice, with a Jew in the same bark, would proselyte the Jew, whether he would or no: nnd w hen he could not storm him with his Legion of Saints, resolved, (as the Spaniards did to the Indians) to baptize him perforce, by throwing him over-board; at which time it had been no hard matter to have pronounced the sacramental words of baptism, and afterwards a dirge for his soul, and so enable him to take, or go to, heaven by violence. But the obstinate Jew doted ou Moses and the world too well, to be so converted; so that being stronger of the two, he had almost non him with Moses’ law the same way; endeavouring to do to the priest as he had thought to have done to him. What might not the zeal of this priest have done, had he had but as much power ns zeal ? — My lord high chancellor hit the bird in the eye, when he found out the cause of all our distempers to arise from the Clergy; which the parliament also reflected on, and the king’s counsel in some of their late pleadings, l or they that should be the messengers of the Gospel of Peace, have too too often used thw pulpit as a drum, and lifted up their voice as a trumpet of war. And some histories have recorded the Tribe of Levi for the grand incendiaries of the world. Fire and sword being the chief instruments of their legal sacrifice; yet so holy they seem as not to enter into the Judgment Hall for fear of defiling, nor put any man to‘death; they said it was not lawful. But if Pilate would not crucify their own king to satisfy (not their reason) but their tumult and malice, they cried out, lie was none of Ca?sar’s friend; they would lay Treason to his charge. — The Gospel of Peace is not proclaimed by Cannon Law w ith the drum and trumpet. The way to save men is not to beat nor kill them; the way to make them believe as they believe, is not to deprive them of the use of sense, reason and conscience. Balaam’s Ass will rise up in judgment against such [xxxvi basket-hilted preachers, such wood and iron men; for he convinced his master by reason, w hilst the madness of the Prophet used all his force to cudgel his ass to go on, to both their destructions. They that will live in peace must sutler others to live in peace also. How like an Angel of God did our king speak, when Ins majesty protest his singular moderation by a Parable, Why should I be angry with another man for eating veal, because I love mutton?’ — T-‘ie 27th of July, 1660, his majesty was pleased to acknowledge, that be owed his being there to God’s blessing upon the intentions and resolutions he then expressed to have at Breda. And the Lord Chancellor, Sept. 13, 1660, notes how Gro-tius laments the virulent contentions in the debates of Christian Religion, whilst every one pretends to all the marks of the true Church, except that which is inseparable from it, Charity to one another. — How do these Spee ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nd public in private; when the unlearned preach, and the learned are bid to hold their tongues. — I would not neglect nor provoke any party to try their strength. A captain of all beggars, knaves and fools, might soon be formidable to greatest kings, especially when they can lay claim to Sul us Popu/i and Liberty of Conscience, which, when Cromwell had principled his soldiers with, he boasted he never lost a battle after. Liberty of Conscience is a weapon of many points and one handle, which when magistrates let go, he that first.catches hold of it unites nil interests against that single one that is uppermost, and cuts all oaths and human obligations in pieces. — It is as possible to contract a wise mnn into the capacity of a fool, as to sublime a fool into the understanding of a wise man. And as in a multitude of counsellors there is safety, so in a hubub of fools there is nothing but danger and confusion. Charity mistaken, turns to greatest cruelty, and misgrounded love, to mortal hatred. Whom they cannot save, they will kill. — I would have no plea for Liberty of Sin; for , so the Sword of the Magistrate would be borne in vain, aod APPENDIX. — A Speech bp a Ghost. Stxxvii] APPENDIX. — A Letter front a Person of Quality. [xxxviii there were an end of all human society. But if your honours grant Liberty of Conscience, you yourselves have what you give. — The king hath summoned you for his Grand Council It concerns your honours to espouse the king’s interest, not to he king of this or that party, but to be king of all. It concerns your honours to take in all interests of the people; for you are not supposed a representative of some of his majesty's subjects, but of all. — If parliament should thus starve his majesty’s interest and their own into the marnsme of Single Parties, might not his majesty hud it as necessary, to have (not as many parliaments as kingdoms) but as many parliaments as religions, and as professions ? And would not parliaments in time grow a grievance? and the people find it more convenient to cast themselves at his majesty’s feet, desiring him to do with them what he pleased, rather than bind up his majesty by a law to that which the goodness of his own nature, and greatness of his office would else never incline to, but abhor ? — -I do but reason the case. None will he angry with reason, unless he be angry that God made him a man; but your honours are called to greater things. Be as large as your trust, expansive as Heaven over all; and if your honours think good to meddle with matters of lleligion, do somewhat worthy his majesty, and so great a senate; to amaze the world; to aw'aken all men (like the last Trump) from the lethargy of lukewarmness, and the deadness of stupid ignorance: do that, which never vet was attempted ! — Call a Universal Assembly; not birds of a feather! we have had too much of that already. An Assembly of Turks, would make us all Turks. An Assembly of Infidels, all Infidels. — It leaves all men dis-satisfied, and injures all but themselves, not having heard all parties/ Quicunq; judicat (parte iuuudita altera) aequum licetjudicet, Iniquus tamen est. ’ — Nor can they benefit themselves beyond their own low principles; and so return, not better informed, but more hardened in unbelief; self-willed, self-conceited, and 'thereby necessitated to stir up such magistates as they can allure and delude to their party, to maintain and promote that by the Sword, which they could not do by Reason, or Divine Authority. — Call therefore a free and universal Assembly (by what name your wisdoms shall best like of.) All that will come, let theta come, and drink of the Waters of Life freely: for ail men have some Reason, no man all. So may you translate the Proverb of, ‘ Asking Counsel as of Babel; ’ and men will come from far, to hehr Wisdom as of Solomon. Novelty will invite some, Ambition others. Fear many, and Truth all. And all the world will own themselves obliged to his majesty and this parliament ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ter from a Person of Quality, * Iix] APPENDIX. — * that this great wound should be given (as we * humbly apprehend) to so essential a privilege * of the whole peerage of this realm, as their liberty of protesting, do now (according to * our unquestionable right) muke use of the * same liberty to enter this our Dissent from, and Protesting against the said vote. Bucks, * Winton, Bedford, Dorset, Salisbury, Bridge- water, Denbigh, Berks, Clarendon, Ailsbury, * Sbattsbury, Say and Seal, llallifax, Audley, * I'itzvvalter, Eure, Wharton, Mohuo, Hollis, * Dclamer, Grey de Rollestone/ After this Bill being committed to a committee of the whole house, the first thing insisted upon by the lords against the bill, was, that there ought to be passed some previous Votes to secure the rights of peerage and parliament, before they entered upon the debate or amendments of such a bill as this; and at last two previous Votes were obtained, which I need not here set down, because the next Protestation hath them both in terrainis. * Whereas upon debate on the Bill, entitled, 4 An Act to prevent the Dangers which tnay arise from Persons disaffected to the Govern- 4 meat, it was ordered by the house of peers, . 4 the 30th of April last. That no Oath should be imposed by any Bill, or otherwise, upon the peers with a penalty in case of refusal, to lose their places, or votes in parliament, or liberty to debate therein:and whereas also, 1 upon debate of the same, it was ordered, the 3rd of this instant May, that there shall be nothing in this bill, which shall extend to deprive either of the houses of parliament, or any of their members, of their just, antient 4freedom and privilege of debating any matter or business, which shall be propounded or debated in either of the sain houses, or at any conference or committee of both, or either of the said houses of parliament; or 4touching the repeal, or alteration of any old, . 4or preparing any new laws, or redressing any 4 public grievance; but that the said members of either of the said houses, and the assistants of the house of peers, and every of them, 4shall have the same freedom of speech, and all other privileges whatsoever, as they had before the mating of this Act. Both which Orders were passed as previous directions unto the committee of the whole house, to whom the said Bill was committed, to the end that nothing should remain in the said bill, 4 which might any ways tend towards the de-4priving of either of the houses of parliament, 4 or any of their members, of their antient 4freedom of debates, or votes, or other their privileges whatsoever. Yet the house being 4pleased, upon the Report from the committee, to pass a Vote, That all persons who have, or shall have right to sit and vote in ‘either house of parliament, should be added * to the first enacted Clause in the said Bill, 4 whereby an Oath is to be imposed upon them as members of either house; which Vote we, 4 whose names are under-written^ being peers *of the realm, do humbly conceive, is not Vol, IV, Appendix, Friend in the Country. £1 4 agreeable to the said two previous Orders: 4 and it having been humbly offered and insisted upon by divers of us, that the Proviso in the late Act, entitled, An Act for preventing Dangers that may happen from Popish Recusants, ’ might be added to the bill depending, whereby the peerage of every peer of this realm, and all their privileges, 4 might be preserved in this bill, as fully as in the said late act; yet the house not pleasing to admit of the said Proviso, but proceeding to the passing of the said Vote, VVe do humbly, upon the grounds aforesaid, and according to our undoubted right, enter this our Dissent from, and Protestation against the same. Buckingham, Bedford, Winton, Salisbury, Berks, Bridgewater, Stamford, Clarendon, Denbigh, Dorset, Shaftsbury, Wharton, 4 Eure, Delamer, Paget, Mohun. ’ This was their last Protestation; for after this they altered their method, and reported ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- his lordship wn9 told, That he might then as well, nay much better, have left it upon the old Oath of Allegiance, than made such a wide gap in his new Declaration.-^- The third and last part of friend in the Country. [lie the Declaration was, 4 or against those that are commissioned by him.* Here the mask was plainly plucked otf, and arbitrary government appeared bare-faced, and a Standing Army to be established by act of parliament; for it was said by several of the lords, 4 That if whatever is by the king’s commission he not opposed by the king’s authority, then a 4 Standing Army is law whenever the king pleases.’ — For instance, if, in suit with a great favourite, a man recovers house and lands, and by course of law be put into possession by the sheriff, and afterwards a warrant is obtained by the interest of the person, to command some soldiers of the Standing Army to take the possession, and deliver it back; in such case, the man in possession may justify the defending himself, and killing those who shall violently endeavour to enter the house, yet the party whose house is invaded takes up Anns by the king’s authority against those who are commissioned by him. And it is the same case, if the soldiers had been commissioned to defend the house against the sheriff, when he first endeavoured to take the possession according to law, neither could any Order or Commission of the king put a stop to the sheriff, if he had done his duty in raising the whole force of th; it county to put the law in. execution; neither can the court, from whom that Order proceeds, (if they observe their oath, and duty) put any stop to the execution of the law in such a case, by any command or commission from the king whatsoever; nav, all the guards and standing forces in England cannot be secured by any commission from being a direct riot, and unlawful assembly, unless in time of open war and rebellion. And it is not out of the way to suppose, that if any king hereafter, contrary to the Petition of Right, demand and levy money by privy seal, or otherwise, and cause soldiers to enter and distrain -for such like illegal taxes, that in such a case any man may by law defend his house against them; and yet this is of the same nature with the former, and against the words of the Declaration. These instances may seem somewhat rouglji, and not with the usual reverence towards the crown; but they alleged, they were to be excused, when all was concerned:and without speaking thus plain, it is refused to be understood; and, however happy we are now, either' in the present prince, or those we have in prospect, yet the suppositions are not extravagant, when we consider kings are but men, and compassed with more temptations than others; and, as the earl of Salisbury, who stood like a rock of nobility, and English principles, excellently replied to the Lord Keeper; who was pleased to term them remote instances, 4 That they would not hereafter prove 4 so, when this Declaration had made the practice of them justifiable.’ — These arguments enforced the lords for the Bill, to a change of this part of the Declaration; so they agreed the second and third parts of it should run thus: 4 And I do abhor that traiterous posi * d a h\ APPENDIX. — Letter from a Person of Quality, pri tion of taking Arms by his authority against his Person, or against those that are cora- missioned by him according to law, in the time of Rebellion or War, acting in pursuance of such commission; * which mends the matter very little: for, if they meau the king’s authority, and his lawful commission, to be two things, and such as arc capable of opposition, then it is as dangerous to the liberties of the nation, as when it run in the former words, and we arc only cheated by new phrasing of it: but if they understood them to be one and the same thing, as really and truly they are, tl>en we are only to abhor the treason of the position of taking Arms by the king’s authority against the king’s authority, because it ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- throughout the kingdom, that I think nothing keeps the lire frmn flaming out afresh in another intestine war, but the bare circumstance of opportunity only; and how long that will be able to restrain passions that are made wild by oppression, is worthy a very serious consideration; and therefore there is hardly any thing more a wonder to wise men, than to see the clergy run at this rate upon the dissenters. Wherefore since the nonconformists have given so large and ample a testimony of their willingness to live peaceably, if yet notwithstanding the clergy will not suffer them to be quiet in their families and their houses, I doubt, they may at one time or other drive them into the field, and then it may exceed their divine art to conjure them down again; for he secs but little, tiiat sees uct the English temper is better to he led than driven. And therefore I think it would not be more a vanity, to compel the ladies to wear queen Elizabeth’s ruff, than to force the nonconformists to be drest in her religion. — Nor yet are these all the arts we are under: for we have a gang that huff, and bear themselves high on the country side, but earn only for the court; these lay out their craft in putting the bouse upon little trifling things, and spend and waste the mettle thereof upon such pitiful pickadilloes, as it is next to a shame for an English parliament so much as . to mcition. These start a fierce dispute about some little matter, and keep a bluster as if none were such faithful patriots as they, when they do it on purpose only to while out the time, and thin the house, by tiring the honest country gentry in so tedious, fruitless, and trifling attendance. Do but move things worth? a parliament; as that we may have our old known rights of Annual Parliaments ascertained:’ That none that are-or shall be bribed by any Place or Office, shall ever sit in this houseThat ‘Parliaments ought not to be prorogued, adjourned, or dissolved, till all Petitions are beard, and the Aggrievances of the people redressed, with many things more of as great importance; O then, forsooth, their pretended loyalty (which in plain English is easily understood) will not abide such unmannerly and clownish debates as these, and twenty such little shreds of nonsense are impertinently urged instead of argument — But further, these Country-Court lxxil APPENDIX, N° VII. — The Debate or Arguments Jbr [lxxii engines after they have taken the measures of the house, at the opening of every session, by our thanks for the Gracious Speech, which being the true pulse of the house, if it happen to come so hard as speaks us hut faint and cool to the one thing necessary (the matter of Money) then they know what will follow, that the court will get no grist that sis.vons; and though tite court in indignation could turn them home on the morrow, yet it must consult its reputation a little, restrain its resentments, and sutler them to sit about a six weeks, or two months, and then they n:-sure the court, since they Can get no good by tit*.in, they shall take no harm; and therefore to stop them from some worthy undertaking, they by their feigned zeal against Court-Corruptions, put them upon impeaching some Treasurer, Counsellor, or' Minister of .State; and having spent ball’ our time about this, the rest is spent lor the clergy upon church-work, which we have been so often put upon and tired with these many sessions:though partiality tmhccoines a parliament, who ought to lay the whole body that we represent alike tabic, nonconformists, as wall conformists; for we were chosen by both, and with that intention, that we should oppress neither. To lay one part therefore of the body on a pillow, and the other on a rack, sorts our wisdom little, but our justice worse. You now see all our shapes, save only the Indigo nts, concerning whom I need say but little, for their Votes ate publicly saleable tor & guinea anti a dinner every day in the wetk, unless the house be upon Money, or a Minister of State: for that is t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e prince owes us, not only the frequencies of parliaments, but that our representations should be preserved to us in them. — And further, if you consider the constitution of our government, where the King as bead (from w hom all the vital aod-animal spirits'are diffused through the body) has the care of all, whose interest is to seek the welfare of the whole, all being his; the Strength of the Nation being his Strength, the Riches his Riches, the Glory and Honour, his Glory and Honour, and so on the contrary: hut le6t passion, mistake, flattery, or the ill designs of those about the Prince should make him grow cross to his real, and follow a destructive imaginary interest; there is an estate of hereditary nobility, who are by birthright the counsellors of the kingdom, and whose interest and business it is to keep the balance of the government Steady, that the favorites and great officers ex- [lxxir cecd not their bounds, and oppress the people, that justice be duly administered, and that all parts of the government be preserved entire yet even the>e may grow insolent (a disease greatness is liable to) or may by Offices, Dependencies, Hopes of Preferment, and other accidents, become, as to the major part of them, rather the obsequious flatterers of the court, than true supporters of the public and' English interest, and therefore the excellency of our government affords us another estate of men, which are the representatives of the freeholders, cities, principal boroughs, and corporations of England, who by the old law were to be new chosen once a year, if not oftener, so that they perfectly gave the sense of those that chose them, and were the same thing as if those were present that chose, they so newly coming from them, and so quickly returning to give an account of their fidelity, under the penalty of shame, 'and no further trust. — Thus you have in our English government, the House of Commons affording the Sense, the Mind, the Information, the Complaints, the Grievances, and the Desires of all those people for whom they serve, throughout the whole nation. The people are thus secure, no laws can be made, nor money given, but what themselves, though at home, fully consent and agree to. The second estate in this government, is the Lords, who are the Council, the Wisdom, and Judgment of the Nation, to which their birth, education, and constant employment, being the same in every parliament, prepares and fits them. The last and supreme of all, is the King, one who gives life and vigour to the proceedings of the other two; the will and desires of the people, though approved by the wisdom and judgment of the Lords, are abortive, unless he bids them be an act. — Humane reason can hardly contrive a more excellent government: but if you will alter this government, in any of the three parts of it, the disorders and inconveniencies incident to the nature of such alteration, must necessarily follow:as for instance, the long continuance of any such as are entrusted for others, especially of such ps have so great a power over the purse of the nation, roust necessarily produce cabals and parties, and the carrying on of private interests and court factions, rather than the public good, or the true interest either of the king or kingdom. How vastly is the privilege of a parliament-man encreased since the middle of the reign of Hen. 8. Before, it was several times agreed by all the Judges, and observed as the law, That a member and his servants were exempted only from Arrests and Outlawries, but might be impleaded, sued, and attached by his lands and goods; yet now they must not be sued in any case, nor dispossessed of any thing during the time of privilege; nay, these two last sessions the privilege must extend to exempt them even from the judicature of parliament itself: as also before the same king's reign, the House of Commons never thought of Judicature, as being in the APPENDIX, N° VII. — dissolving this present Parliament. lxxv} APPENDIX, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- im did I constantly write, and by him address nivself to Father Ferryer. — The first thing of great importance which I presumed to offer to him (not to trouble you with lesser matters, or what passed here before and immediately after the fatal revocation of the king’s declaration for lil>erry of conscience, to which we owe all our late miseries and hazards) was in July, August, and Sept. 1673; when I constantly inculcated the great danger Catholic religion and his most Christian Majesty’s interest would be iu at our next sessions of parliament; which was then to be in October following: at which I plainly foresaw, that the king my master would be forced to something, in prejudice of his alliance with France; which I saw so evidently (and particularly that we should make peace with Holland ), that I urged all the arguments I could (which to me were demonstrations) to convince your court of that mischief: and pressed what I could to persuade Ins Christian Majesty to use his utmost force to prevent that sessions of our parliament; and proposed expedients how to do it: but I was answered so often, and so positively. That his Christian Majesty was so well assured by his ambassador here, oar ambassador there, the lord Arlington, and even the king himself, that he had no such apprehension at all. but was fnllv satisfied of the contrary, and looked upon w hat I offered as a very zealous mistake: that 1 was forced to give over arguing, though not believing as I did; but confidently appealed to time and success, to prove who took their measures Tightest. When it happened, that what I foresaw, came to pass, the good Father lxxxi] APPENDIX, N° VIII. — Mr. Coleman's Tzco Letters to Tut her Le Chaise. [Ixxxii was a little surprized, to see all the great men mistaken, and a little one in the right; and was pleased, by sir Win. Throckmorton, to desire the continuance of my correspondence: which I was mighty willing to comply with; knowing the interest of our king, and, in a more particular manner, of my more immediate roaster the duke, and his most Christian Majesty, to be so inseparably united, that it was impossible to divide them, without destroying them all. — Upon this, I shew, that our parliament, in the circumstances it was in, managed by the timorous councils of our ministers who then governed, could never be useful, cither to England, France, or Catholic religion; hut that we should as certainly be forced from our neutrality at their next meeting, as we had been from our active alliance with France the last: that a peace, in the circumstances we were in, was, much more to be desired than the continuance of the war:and, that the dissolution of our parliament would certainly procure a peace: for that the confederates did more depend upon the power they had in our parliament, than upon any thing else in the world; and were more encouraged from thence to continue the war:so that, if that were dissolved, their measures would be all broken; and they, consequently, in a manner, necessitated to a peace. — The good Father, minding this discourse somewhat more than the court of France thought fit to do my former, urged it so home to the king, that his majesty was pleased to give him order to signify to his royal highness my master, that his majesty was fully satisfied of his r. h.’s good intentions towards him; and that lie esteemed both their interests hut as one and the same: that my lord Arlington, and the parliament, were both to lie looked upon as very unuseful to their interests:and that if his r. h. would endeavour to dissolve this parliament, his majesty would assist him with his power and his purse, to have such a new one, as should be for their purpose. — This, and a great many more expressions of kindness and confidence. Father Ferryer -was pleased to communicate to sir Wro. Throckmorton; and commanded him to send them to his r. h.; and withal to beg his r. h. to propose to his most Christian majesty, what he thought necessary for his own conce ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distemper'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; which was a frequent spectacle the last time popery reigned amongst us. Fancy you behold those beautiful churches, erected for the true worship of God, abused and turned into idolatrous temples, to the dishonour of Christ, and scandal of religion; the ministers ol God’s holy word torn in pieces before your eyes, and their very best friend* not daring even to speak in their behalf: your trading’s bad, and in a manner lost already, hut then the only commodity will be fire and sword; the only object, women running with their hair about their ears, men covered with blood, children sprawling under horses feet, and only the walls of houses left standing: when those that survive this fatal day, mar sigh and cry, Here once stood »ny house, there my friend's, and here my kinsman's: but alas, that time is past ! The only noi>e will then be, O my wife! O my husband! O my dearest children! In fine, what the devil himself would d6, were he here upon earth, will in his absence infallibly be acted by his agents the papists; those who had so much ingratitude and baseness, to attempt the life of a prince so indulgent to them, will hardly be less cruel to any of his protestant subjects. xcvii] APPENDIX, N° IX. — -forthe Preservation of his Majesty's, <$c» [xcviii Wake drowsy subjects, and prevent your doom, Let England not be twice enslav’d by Rome. If the approaching ruin of the father could open the dumb son’s mouth, then all that either are true Protestants, good Englishmen, or well-wishers to the interest of this nation, have now the same reason to speak and complain, when, without a miracle, our apparent ruin is at hand, the sword already hangs over our heads, and seems to be supported by no stronger force than that of one single hair, his majesty’s life. We in the country have done our parts, in choosing for the generality good members to serve in parliament; but if (as our two last parliaments were) they must be dissolved or prorogued, when ever they come to redress the grievances of the subject, we may be pitied, but not blamed. If the plot takes effect (as in all probability it w ill) our parliaments are not then to be condemned, for that their not being sulfered to sit occasioned it. The plot is now got so far out of our enemies reach, that no subtle evasion or trick can ever hope to extinguish it; wherefore they must either sufftr all to come out, or begin by force to justify it, which we see they are going to do, by endeavouring to get those worthy and brave commanders banished, who (as they think) are the most likely persons to conduct and lead us up against any popish army; the wolf hath nothing more to do, hut to destroy the shepherd, and then fall upon the naked sheep. But gentlemen, be not di-aiiayed, the Lord of Hosts! will be oil your sides; for so long as you fight his cause, he will right your battles; and if God be for you, who dares be against you ? Fear nothing, but as your interests are united, so let your resolutions be the same; and the first hour wherein you hear of the king’s untimely end, let no other noise be heard among you, but that of arm, arm, to revenge your sovereign’s death, both upon his murtherers, and their whole party, tor that there is no such thing as an English papist, who is not in the plot, at least in his good wishes. Let not fear of losing part by your action, make you lose the whole by your patience:think not to fare better than the rest, by niedling less, for that conqueror’s promises are never kept, especially coming from that sort of people, whose maxim it is, never to keep their words with Heretick*. Wherefore, if ever a popish successor comes amongst you, let his promises of keeping your religion and laws, or of his conversion, be never bo plausible, credit them not; for if you do, you will infallibly he deceived, and in time find them to be but like the bait to a mousetrap. Or if you think to bind and fetter him by laws, that will be no better than the wise men of Gotham's hedging in the cuckow; for when he (as all other popish kings do) governs by an array, what will ail your laws signilv ? You will not then have parliaments to appeal to; he and his council will levy his arbitrary taxes, and his army shall gather them for him: therefore you may much easier prevent the distemper at first, than remedy it when it has once got a Vol, IV, Appendix. head. Now gentlemen, lest any amongst you should be ignorant, either of your enemies, or their designs, both against the king and king* dotn, be pleased to consider what fellows, and then think how to prevent it. Consideration I. — First then, That you may know who are your enemies at this time:they are young beggarly otticers, courtiers, oxer-hot church-men, and Papists, The young officer or soldier his interest makes him wish for u standing army, not considering any fur* tlier than his own pay and plunder, and so helps to-ruin you that wav. The courtier endeavours to advance taxes, oppress the people by vast and illegal impositions, when looking upon his prince but as his nx, he fattens him upon his neighbour’s pasture, only for his own eating. Over-hot church-men are bribed to wish well to popery, by the hopes (if not of a cardinal’s cap) yet at least of a command over some abbey, priory, or other ecclesiastic preferment, whereof the Roman Church hath so great plenty. These are the men who exclaim against our parliament’s proceedings, in relation to the plot, as too violent, calling these times by no other name but that of forty or forty one, -when to amuse hs well, hi* sacreo majesty, as his good people, they anain threaten us with another forty eight, and all tins is done to vindicate under-hand the Catholic party, by throwing a suspicion on the fanatics. These are the gentlemen, who so magnify the prin-I ciplrs of bishop Laud, and so much extol the writings of the late same spirited prelate J>r. Hevlin, who hath made more Papists by his books, than Christians by his sermons. These ore those episcopal tantivies, who make even the very scriptures pimp for the court, who out of urim and thummun can extort a sermon, to prove the not paying of tythes and taxes to be the sin against the Holy Ghost, and had rather see the kingdom run down with blood, than part with the least hem of a consecrated fr ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- that very same evidence, whereon the same judge bad hanged so many before; but however my lord chief justice and the jury had so good an opinion of his innocence, yet’ sir George himself had not so, as appears by his flying away beyond sea, so soon as ever his trial was over. These and innumerable other discouragements bath the plot met with, which being observed, together with the due circumstance of the evidence, 1 think no man that is not in the whole, or part of the plot himself, can doubt the verity of it. Indeed at the first, many thought to cast a suspicion upon what Oates and Bedlow informed, as being two persons of an idle life and conversation; but how ridiculous is this ? As if such rogues would trust such a villanv with honest men, or any but those that bad been as bad as themselves; you might as well expect a highwayman should go and acquaint my lord chief justice, or my lord of Canterbury, when he meant to commit the next robbery; hut a bad shift is better than none at all. So that from the nature of the evidence, or credit of the informants, no man can take exception against the information, either of Dr. Oates, Mr. Bedlow, or any of tl»e rest, to whom Mr. Jennison had lately given no small credit, in discovering the four villains, that (as Mr. Oates had said) were to have assassinated his majesty at Windsor. Consideration VIII. — The fourth and last Argument (which may sometimes prevail with the prince to disbelieve any report of a conspiracy) is taken from the nature and interest of the pretended conspirators; but neither of these motives can pretend to influence our prince into a disbelief of this popish plot: for first, as to their nature and principles, we all know, that in one of their own councils, via. the Lateran, were introduced those two hellish tenets of murdering kings, and eating their God:but the papists will tell you, that they do not murder kings, for the pope he first deposes them at Rome, and then if they kill him, they kill but a private person: we all likewise know, that it is held an act of merit amongst them, to murder an heretic, witness their massacre of the poor Protestants at Paris; and to murder a husband, a brother, or any tuck near relation that is an heretic, the greater is the merit, by reason of the self-denial and injury done to ourselves, in the loss of so near a friend; but to murder an heretic king (especially where there is a popish successor) they hold to be the greatest of all merits, even sufficient to canonize him for a saint, by reason of the vast advantage will thereby accrue to the popish religion, not doubting but that the rest of the kingdom will, Regis ad exempliim, soon after turn papists. Having thus therefore shewed them to be prepared with principles, sufficient to undertake any such villany, let us in the next place examine their interest, ss it stands at this time, where we shall find, that their interest does unavoidably excite them to murder his sacred majesty. For first, They know he cannot long subsist without a considerable sum of money, which he must receive, either from their party, or from the parliament: now for them to supply him with so vast a sum, is a charge, that (you may well imagine) they would desire to get rid of if they could, though by the king’s death:on the other side, for tiie parliament to supply him «ith money, that they know cannot be done, but by taking off the heads of their faction, excluding their succession, and consenting to such laws as must of necessity ruin them:besides, his majesty hath already permitted the executing so many of their party, as they never cau or will forgive it. All which put together, with the great expectation they have from a popish successor, will make them vigorously and speedily attempt the king’s ruin, unless he suddenly prevents it, by adhering to his parliament, and ruining them first. If his majesty would be pleased for one month to think himself Henry 8, and we his subjects for the same time (forgetting we a ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- has resigned himself to his lordship, and his party, and is wholly theirs; and yet then too, he must trust their good nature, and surrender upon discretion; they will allow him no other terms, no, not to be himself, and have his senses, unless they can fright him out of them. I will yet charitably hope, that the pretended author is abused: it concerns him to vindicate himself, by wishing, as I do, That the true author may have the same fate, that his Speech had, by Order of the House of Peers. cxxiii] APPENDIX, N° XIII. — The True Englishman speaking plain, [cuif N° XIII. The True Englishman speaking plain-English, in a Letter from a Friend to a Friend. Printed in the Year 1681* [This Tract is better known by the Title of Fitzharriss Libel. The interesting Debates in both Houses on the Impeachment of Fitzharris, for writing the said Libel, will be found in the Proceedings of the 25th and 26th days of March, 1681. On the 30th of April, Fitzharris was arraigned at the Bar of the King s. Bench, pleaded his Impeachment in Parliament, in Demur to the Jurisdiction of the Court, which being overruled, he was found guilty, condemned, and executed on the 1st of July following.] I thank you for the character of a popish successor which you sent me:wherein our just fears, and the gounds of them, are justly set out. But I am in greater fear of the present possessor: why do we frighten ourselves about the evil that is to come, not looking to that which is at hand ? We would cut off the budding weeds, and let the poisonous root lie still: we would stop the channel of our evils, and let ' the fountain still run. My meaning is this: can Pylades know and act all these bloody conspiracies, and not impart them to his dear Orestes ? If James be conscious and guilty, Char lei is so too: believe me, these two brethren in iniquity are in confederacy with Pope and French to introduce popery and arbitrary government, as all their actions demonstrate*: the parliament, Magna Charta, and liberty of the subject, are as heavy yokes, which they would cast off, to be ns absolute as their brother of Frauce; and, if this can be proved to be their only aim and endeavour, why should not every true Briton be a Quaker thus far? Let the English rise, and move as one man, to selt-dcfence, to open action, and fling off their intolerable riders. Blow the trumpet, stand on your guard, and withstand them as bears and tigers. And since there can be no trust given to this goodly couple of popisd) brethren, nor no relief expected from a parliament; trust to your swords, in defence of your lives, laws, religion, and properties, like the stout earl of old, who told a king, that if he could not be defended by Magna Charta, be would be relieved by Longa hpada. — Yet to convince the world that this Scottish race is corrupt, root and branch, and popish from the very beginning, be pleased to consider these reasons following: The grandfather of these men, James the Scot, was of no religion at the bottom, but entered by a pretence of a sham plot of the papists against his life, whilst really he collogued with the popish party under-hand, ♦ Lord Somers’ Tracts. bis mother, his kindred, with great submission: yet afterwards thinking it for his purpose to cajole the parliament, and write against the pope and cardinals, he sends a Scots bird to blind the eyes of the Vatican keeper with money, and to steal his letters from off the Roman file; and then he crows as boldly ns an unsuspected harlot, for the protestant religion and interest. — That man's son Charles I. held a secret correspondency with the pope, calling him his dear and holy father; as is to be seen iu his letters recorded in Kushworth’s Collections. Were not his wife and courtiers papists? Did he not countenance and promote the rebellion in Ireland ? as the Irish grandees, and his very commissions, testify and declare. Was there not a popish plot, and an universal conspiracy of the papists, discovered to him and his confessor Laua ? and d ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ere ad- cxxix] APPENDIX, N° XIV. mitted to parliament, was, in the 16th year of Henry the First; which parliament was assembled at Salisbury, and it was so assembled of the king's owu pleasure, not of any obligation, that, by law, lay upon hiiu so to do. And certain it is, the kings of England were no ways obliged to assemble parliaments, or being assembled, to permit them to sit, during their owu pleasure, till of late years, that such vapours corrupted our region, with a destructive contagion. By the ancient Statutes of Edward the Third, whereby parliaments were to be holden once a year, and oftener, if need were, canuot, by any reasonable construction, be intended, so much to oblige the king to call a parliament, as to oblige the subject to attend, being called; and this seems the rather to be so, for that, those statutes being but briefly penned, by a subsequent statute of Richard the Second, as an act explanatory of the funner acts, a penalty is imposed upon every person, having summons to parliament, that should not come accordingly. But now, by an act of the sixteenth of his now majesty’s reign, he was prevailed upon to pass it into a law, that parliaments should not be intermitted •or discontinued above three years. However, God be thanked, it is yet in the king’s power, that, if, when they arc called, they behave themselves not well, his majesty may, without violation of any law, send them whence they came; and, I hope, it will never more be otherwise, lest that, if they had a grant of not being dissolved, without their own consent, they would do, as those did, that had the like power. And, sure it is no solecism, that the like cause may have die like effect. A parliament of the modern constitution is, without controversy, very necessary and useful, if they intend that, which properly belongs to them; the business of both houses being to consult with, and advice the king, in such things, as he shall require their advice in, and to represent to him public grievances, such as are real grievances, and not such as every whimble pated fellow esteems so; but they are not to think to compel the king, under the plausible term of address, to . exercise any point of government, or to make any new laws, that he likes not of. And it is proper and peculiar to himself only to judge, what advice is fit to be followed, and what to be rejected; for there may be some private reason of state, for his so doing, which might be inconvenient to be publicly kaowm. This hath been the' ancient settled practice, and under which this kingdom hath long flourished; and it is not safe to alter it, for, it being now the declining age of the world, most changes, violent ones especially, are from good to bad, and from bad to worst, and from worst to stark naught. Is not the advantage of monarchy, above the government of many, apparent, at this time, to any feeling man ? For, if his majesty, like the main-mast of a ship, had not been the stay of all, and bad not, as it were, parted the fray, by the late dissolution of the parliament, all the aristo-Vol.IV. Appendix. -of the sutne Parliantent. [exxx cratical rigging and tackle of both houses, if it deserves to be so called, had been torn in pieces by faction, amongst themselves, and this poor kingdom thereby, before this, might have been a second lime, in our memory, blown up by her own inbred divisions; and it is not without precedent, that parliaments are alike infallible as the pope, or his college of cardinals, and have given as ill advice, and done as .ill things, and of late have been more troublesome titan ever. If it should* be so. That the advice of either, or both houses of parliament, must of necessity be followed by the king, then would it uot be properly an advice, but a command in effect; and where, in a commonwealth, the sovereign power or command is in more than in one, that commonwealth is no longer a monarchy, but it degenerated, at best, into an aristocracy, the sovereignty being thereby divided amongst many; and, if ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- not over long protect the members thereof, to delay and defraud their fellow subjects of their just and due debts; which sort of practice, for many years past, hath been a killing oppression, when not only the members themselves made ill use of that privilege, hut many of them gave their clerks liberty to sell blank protections by the dozens, as the Pope doth iris indulgences. And moreover, if any such, or other like vicious men, should, by flattery and bribery, get into the parliament, a dissolution gives opportunity of discharging such, from having hand in so high a trust; and great reason, such should he discharged; for, how can it be expected, that men, unjust in their private concerns, should be otherwise in public administration, which they will always strive to make subservient to their by-interests? By the long continuance of one and the same parliament, it hath happened, that the members thereof, having long beheld the tempting, though forbidden fruit of supremacy, they have not scrupled to grapple with the king, for a share of the sovereignly; and most commonly, when they are a little settled, they strive to 6poil the king of his prerogative, to usurp it to themselves; and, rather than fail of their designs, time hath been, that they have involved the people of this kingdom, in a miserable war and destruction of each other, when the thing, they seemed to insist on, was either of no moment at all to the people, or something that had a very remote possibility of ever happening; whereby, instead of prevent-i cxxxi] APPENDIX, N°XW. — The Inconveniences of a long Parliament. [cxtiii ing the mischief, they drew it hastily upon us. There are too many examples hereof in history, whereof to name a few:let it he impartially considered, and then judge, if there was a justifiable cause for the insolency of that parliament, in Edward the Second’s time, who, being set on by some lords, that envied Gave-stoil’s favour w ith that king, framed articles of some trifling grievances to be presented to the king, but added thereunto, the king must banish Gaveston, else they declared, they would rise in arms against the king. An fiction much to the credit of parliaments, indeed, that they, to gratify an envious lord or two, would not stick to stir up the plague of a civil war, in the bowels of their own country, by engaging in a rebellion against the king ! And they proceeded so far, that they murdered Gaveston, instead of bringing him ton fair and legal trial, for no reason in particular, that appears by Baker’s Chronicle, other than that the king loved him, and that he was in more favour than they; and, not long after, they even deposed the king, and yet no intrenchment upon the people’s liberty or property w as committed by that king, in all his reign, and it is expressly said of him, he took no base courses for raising money. And although, being forced to resign his crown, he was content to live a private life, and did so, very quietly, vet his seditious lords thought Ins liberty too much favour for him, and caused him to be imprisoned; and in carrying him to rison, he was most barbarously abused; for, ring taken from his horse, and set upon an hillock, there, taking puddle water to shave him with, his barber told him, cold water must serve for that time; whereat the miserable king, looking earnestly upon him, told him, that, whether they would or no, he would have warm water to wash withal; and, to make good his words, he let fall a shower of tears; and, being enrried to prison, they lodged him in a chamber over carrion and dead carcasses; thinking, thereby, to have poisoned him:but, when thevsaw that would not do, a letter wa6 devised from a lord, to the king’s keepers, blaming them, forgiving him too much liberty, and for not doing the service that was expected from f hem; and, in the end of the letter, was wrote this line; ‘ Edvardum occi-dcro nolite, titnerc bonum est:’ which may be Englished either, it is good to kill Edward, do not fe ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the king, to advise or consult with them at any time; and therefore may they not insist upon what belongs not to them, but ‘ render to Catsar the things that are Cssar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s, ’ and then God will bless both our king and us. Amen. APPENDIX, N° XV. — Sir W. SfC. N° XV. A Just and Modest Vindication of the Proceedings of the Two last Parliaments of King Charles II. Written in Answer to the Kings Declaration of the 8th of April, 1681. By Sir William Jones. * The amazement which seized every good man upon the unlooked-for Dissolution of two Parliaments within three mouths, was not greater than at the sight of a Declaration pretending to justify, and give reasons for such extraordinary proceedings. — It is not to be denied, but that our kings have, in a great * State Tracts in the Reign of Charles II. vol. i. p. 165. The Declaration to which the above Tract is an Answer, will be found, at length, in its proper place. A particular account of sir Win'. Jones is given in the Note to the Proceedings of the House of Commons, Nov. 11, 1680. Mr. Ralph says that this pamphlet is certainly the most judicious and important of all that the Party ever set forth: lior is the state of the Controversy between the two Factions to be understood without it." Ralph, vol. i. p. 589. measure, been entrusted with the power of calling and declaring the Dissolutions of Parliaments. But, lest through defect of age, experience, or understanding, they should, at any time, forget, or mistake our constitution; or, by passion, private interest, or the influence of ill counsellors, be so far misled as oot to assemble parliaments, when the public a flairs require it; or to declare them dissolved before the ends of their meeting were accomplished:the wisdom of our ancestors has provided by divers statutes, both for the holding of parliaments annually, and that they should not be prorogued or dissolved till all the petitions and bills before them were answered and redressed. The constitution had been equally imperfect and destructive of itself, had it been left to the choice of the prince whether he would ever summon a parliament, or put into his power to dismiss them arbitrarily at pleasure. — That i 3 cxxxv] APPENDIX, N° XV. — Sir parliaments should thus meet, and thus sit, is secured to us by the same sacred tie, by which the kin^ at his coronation does oblige himself, to let his judges sit to distribute justice every term, ami to picsene inviolably all other rights and liberties of his subjects. Therefore, abruptly, to dissolve parliaments at such a time, w hen nothing but the legislative power, and the united wisdom of the kingdom could relieve us from our just fears, or secure us from our certain dangers, is very unsuitable to the great trust reposed in the prince, and seems to express hut little of that aflection, which we will always hope his majesty hears towards his people and the Protestant religion. But it is not ©nly of the Dissolution itself that we complain:the manner of doing it is unwarranted by the precedents of former times, and full of dangerous consequents. We are taught by the writ of summons, that parliaments are never called without the advice of the council, and the usage of all ages has been never to send them away without the same advice. To forsake this safe method, is to expose the king personally to the reflections and censures of the whole nation for so ungrateful an action. Our laws have taken care to make the king always dear to his people, and to preserve his person sacred in their esteem, by wisely preventing him from appearing as author of any thing which may be unacceptable to them. It is therefore that he doth not execute any considerable act of royal power, till it be first debated and resolved in council, because then it is the counsellors must answer for the advice they give, and are punishable for such orders as are irregular and illegal. Nor van his ministers justify any unlawful action un ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- lawful manner petitioned for their sitting, in a time of such extreme necessity. Surely they are not in good earnest, they cannot believe themselves, when they say, that these matters had no relation to privileges of parliament. If the privilege of parliament.be concerned when an injury is done to any particular member, how much more is it touched when men strike at parliaments themselves, nnd endeavour to wound the very constitution ? It this be said with relation to Sheridan, who has since troubled the world with so many idle impudent pamphlets upon that account, it is plain that his commitment was only in order to examine him about the Popish Plot, and his endeavours to stifle it, (though his contemptu-Vol. IV. Appendix. [cxlvi ous behaviour to the house deserved a much longer confinement) and it was insolence in hiiu to arraign dicir justice, because they did not instantly leave all their great debates to dispatch the business relating to him. — Thompson of Bristol, was guilty of divers groat breaches of privilege; but yet his commitment was only in order to an impeachment; und a3 soon as they had gone through with his examination, they ordered him to he set nt liberty, giving security to answer the impeachment which they had voted against him. But is it a thing so strange and new to the authors of the Declaration, that the house of commons should order men to be taken into custody for matters not relating to privilege? Have they not heard, that in the 4th of Edw. VI. Cricketost was committed for confederating in an escape; that 18 Jac. sir Francis Michael was committed for misdemeanors, in procuring a patent for the forfeitures of recognizances, together with Fowles, Gerrard, and divers others, (none of which were members of parliament) that 20th Jnc. Dr. Harris was taken into custody for misbehaving himself in preaching; and that 3 Car. Burgcsse was committed for faults in catechising, and Levet for presuming to exercise a patent, which had been adjudged n grievance by a committee of the commons in a former parliament. — There would be no end of giving instances of those commitments, which may he observed in almost every parliament, so that the houie of commons did but tread in the steps of their predecessors; and these sorts of orders were not new, though the Declaration takes the liberty to call them arbitrary. The commons had betrayed their trust, if they had not asserted the right of petitioning, which had been just before shaken by such a strange, illegal, and arbitrary proclamation. — But now we come to the transcendent, monstrous crimes, which can never be forgiven by the ministers, the giving them their due character, which, every man of understanding had fixed upon them long before: the whole current of their councils being a full proof of the truth of the charge. But what colour is there for calling these votes illegal ? Is it illegal for the commons to impeach persons, whom they have good reason to judge enemies to the king and kingdom? Is it illegal to determine by n vote (which is the only way of finding the sense of the house) who arc wicked counsellors, and deserve to be impeached? Could the commons have called the parties accused to make their answer before themselves ? Had they not a proper time for their defence when they came to their trials; and might they not have cleared their inuocence much better, (if they durst have put that in issue) by a trial, than a dissolution of the parliament; But should we grant that these votes were not made in order to an impeachment, yet still there is nothing illegal, nothing extraordinary in them. For the commons in parliament have ever used two wavs in delivering their country from pernicious and powerful favourites, the one is in a parlia- APPENDIX, N° XV. — tico last Parliaments of Charles IT. cxlvii] mentary course of justice by impeaching them, which is used when they judge it needful to make them public examples, by capital, or other high punishments, for the terror of others: the other is by immediate address to the king to remove them as unfaithful or unprofitable servants. Their lives, their liberties or estates arc never endangered, but when they are proceeded against In the former of these ways. Then legal evidence of their guilt is necessary; then there must be a proper time allowed for their defence. In the other way, the parliament acts as the king's great council, and when either house observe that affairs are ill administered, that the advice of parliaments is rejected or slighted, the course of justice perverted, our councils betrayed, grievances multiplied, and the government weakly and disorderly managed, (of all which oar laws have made it impossible for the king to be guilty) they necessarily musty and always have charged those who had the administration of affairs, and the king's ear, as the authors of these mischiefs, and have from time to time applied themselves to him by addresses, for their removal from Ins presence and councils. There be many things plain and evident beyond the testimony of any witnesses, which yet can never be proved in a legal way. If the king will hearken to none but two or three of his minions, must we not conclude that every tiling that is done comes from their advice? And yet, if this way of representing things to the king were not allowed, they might easily frustrate the enquiries of a parliament. It is but to whisper their councils, and they arc safe. The parliament may be busied in such great affairs, as will not suffer them to pursue every offender through a long process; and besides, there may be many reasons why a man should be turned out of a service, which perhaps would not extend to subject him to punishment. The people themselves are highly concerned in the great officers and ministers of state, who nre servants to the kingdom as well as to the king. And the representatives of the people, the commons, whose business it is to present all grievances, as they arc most likely to observe soonest the folly and treachery of those public servants, (the greatest of all grievances) so this representation ought to have no little weight with the prince. This was understood so well by Henry IV. a wise and brave prince, that when the commons complained against four of his servants and counsellors, desiring they might be removed, he came into parliament, and there declared openly, that though he knew nothing against them in particular, yet he wus assured that what the lords ana commons desired of him, was for the good of himself and his kingdom; and therefore he did comply with them, and banished those four persons from his presence and councils, declaring at the same time, that he would do so by any ethers who should he near his royal person, if they were so unhappy as to fall under the ha- [cxlviii tred and indignation of his people. The records and histories of the reigns of Edw. 1, Edw. 2, Edw. 3, and indeed of all other succeeding kings, are full of such addresses as these; but no history or record can shew that ever they were called illegal or unparliamentary till now. — Then the ministers durst uot appeal to the people against their own representatives, but ours at present have either got some new law in the point, or have attained to a greater degree of confidence, than any that went before them. The best of our princes have with thanks acknowledged the care and duty of their parliaments, in telling them of the corruption and folly of their favourites. Edward i. Hen. 2. Hen. 4. Hen. 5. and qoceo Eliz. never failed to do it; and no names are remembered with greater honour in the English annals. Whilst the disorderly, the troublesome and unfortunate reigns of Hen. 3. Edward 2. Rd. 2. and Hen. ought to serve as land marks, to warn succeeding kings from preferring secret councils to the wisdom of their parliaments. — But none of the proceedings of the house of commons hare been more censured at court, and with less justice, than their vote about the anticipation of seven! branches of &e revenue. An objection which could proceed from nothin ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- had been gran tod away by himself or Ilia predecessors. That haughty monarch, as much power as he pretends to, not being ashamed to own that he wanted power to make such alienations, and that kings had that happy inability, that they could do nothing contrary to the laws of their country. This notion seems founded in the reason of mankind, since barbarism itself cannot efface it. The Ottoman emperors dispose arbitrarily of the lives and estates of their subjects; but vet they esteem it the most detestable wickedness, to employ the tributes and growing revenues of the provinces, (which they call the sacred blood of the people) upon any other than public occasions. And our kings Henry 4, and Henry 7. understood so well the different power they bad in using their private inheritance, and those of the crown, that they took care, by authority of parliament, to separate the dutch} of Lancaster from the crown, and to keep the descent of it distinct. But our present courtiers are quite of another opinion, who speak of the revenue of the crown as if it were a private patrimony, and designed only for domestic uses, and for the pleasures of the prince. — The revenues of the crown of England are in their own nature appropriated to public service, and therefore cannot without injustice be diverted or anticipated. For either the public revenue is sufficient to answer the necessary occasions of the government, and then there is no colour for anticipations, or else by an extraordinary .accident the king is reduced to want an extraordinary supply, and then he ought to resort to his pari. Thus wisely did our ancestors provide, that the king and people should have frequent need of pne another, and by having frequent opportunities of mutually relieving one another’s wants, be sure ever to preserve a dutiful affection in the subject, and a fatherly tenderness in the prince. When the king bad occasion for the liberality of his people, he would be well inclined to bear and redress their grievances, and when they wanted ease from oppressions they would not fail with alacrity to supply the occasions of the crown. And therefore it has ever beeu esteemed a crime in counsellors who persuaded the king to anticipate his revenue, and a crime in those who furnished money upon such anticipations in an extraordinary way, however extraordinary the occasion might be. For this cause it was that the pari, in the 35th of Henry 8. did not only discharge all those debts which the king had contracted, but enacted that those lenders who had been before paid again by the king, should refund all those sums into the Exchequer, as judging it a reasonable punishment, to make them forfeit the money they lent, since they bad gone about to introduce so dangerous a precedent. — The true way to put the king out of a possibility of supporting the government, is to let him waste m one year that money, which ought to bear the charge of the government for seven. This is the direct method to destroy the credit i last Parliaments of Charles [cl of the crown, both abroad and at home. If the king resolve never to pay the money which he borrows, what faith will be given to royal promises, and the honour of the nation will suffer in that of the prince, and if it must be put upon the people to repay it, this would be a way to impose a necessity of giving taxes without end, whether they would or no. And therefore (as mercenary as they were) the pensioners would nerer discharge the revenue of the anticipations to the bankers. Now, the commons, having the inconvenience of this before their eyes in so fresh an instance, and having their ears filled with the daily cries of so many widows and orphans, .were obliged in duty to give a public caution to the people, that they should not run again into the same error. Not only because they judged all securities of that kind absolutely void, but because they knew no future parliament could, without breach of trust, repay that money, which was at first borro ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distempers']; Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distempers']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- it could foresee) our constitution hath provided by annual parliaments, 36 Edw. 3. c. 10. that the Common-wealth might receive no hurt; and it is the parliament that must from time to time correct the mischiefs which daily creep in upon us. Let us then no longer wonder, that we see such frequent prorogations and dissolutions of parliaments; nor stand amazed at this last unparalleled efforts of the ministers, by this Declaration to render two parliaments odious unto the people. They well know, that parliaments were ordained to prevent such mischiefs as they designed, and if they were suffered to pursue the ends of their institution, would endeavour to preserve all things in their due order. To unite the king unto his people, and the hearts of his people unto the king: to keep the regal authority within the bounds of law, and persuade his majesty to direct it to the public good which the law intends. But as this is repugnant to the introduction of arbitrary power and po-ery, they who delight in both, cannot but ate it, and chuse rather to bring matters into such a state as may suit with their private interests, than suffer it to continue in its right channel. They love to fish in troubled waters, and they find all disorders profitable unto themselves. They can flatter the humour of a misguided prince, and increase their fortunes by the excesses of a wasteful prodigal. The phrenzy of an imperious woman is easily rendered propitious unto them, and they can turn the zeal of a violent bigot to their advantage. The treacheries of false allies agree with their own corruptions, and as they fear nothing so much as that the king should return unto his people, and keep all things quiet, they almost ever render themselves subservient to such as would disturb them. And if these two last parliaments, according to their duty, and the trust reposed in them, have, more steadily than any other before them, persisted in the pious and just endeavours of easing the nation of any of its grievances, the authors of the Declaration found it was their best course, false colours put upon things, and subtle misrepresentations of their actings, to delude the people into an abhorrence of their own representatives, but with what candor and ingenuity they have attempted it, is already sufficiently made known. And if we look about us, we shall find those who design a change, on either hand fomenting a misunderstanding between the king, his parliament and people, whilst persons who love the legal monarchy, both out of choice and conscience, are they who desire the frequent and successful meetings of the great council of the nation. — As for the other sort of peevish men, of whom the Declaration gives us warning, who are angry at the disappointment of their ambitious designs; if these words are intended to reflect on those men of honour and conscience, who being qualified for the highest employments of state, have either left, or refused^ or been removed from them, because they would not accept or retain them at the price of selling their country, and enslaving posterity: and who are content to sacrifice their safety as well as their interest for the public, and expose themselves to the malice of some men in power, and to the daily plots, perjuries and subordinations of the papists: 1 say, if these be the ambitious men spoken of, the people will have consideration for what they say, and therefore it will be wisdom to give such men as these no occasion to say, that they intend to lay aside the use of parliaments. — In good earnest, the behaviour of the ministers of late, gives but two just occasion to say, that the use of parliaments is already laid aside. For though his majesty has owned in so many of his speeches and declarations, the great danger of the kingdom, and the necessity of the aid and council of parliaments, he hath nevertheless been prevailed upon to dissolve four, in the space of twenty-six months, without making provision by their advice suitable to our dangers or wants. Nor can we hope the court will ever love any parliament better than the first of those four, wherein they had so dearly purchased such a number of fast friends; men, who having first sold themselves, would not stick to sell any thing after. And we may well suspect they mean very ill at court, when their designs shocked such a parliament. For that very favourite parliament no sooner began in good clxxil APPENDIX, N° XV. — earnest to examine what had been done, and what was doing, but they were sent away in haste and.in a fright, though the ministers know they lost thereby a constant revenue of .extraordinary supplies. And are the ministers at preseut more innocent than at that time ? The same interest hath the ascendant at court .still, and they have heightened the resentments of the nation, by repeating affronts; and can we believe them, that they dare suffer a parliament now to sit? — But we have gained at least this one point by the Declaration, that it is owned to us, that parliaments arc the best method for healing the distempers of the kingdom, and the only means to preserve the monarchy in credit both at home and abroad. Owned by these very men, who have so maliciously rendered many former parliaments ineffectual, and by this Declaration have done their utmost to make those which are to come as fruitless, and thereby have confessed that •they have no concern for healing the distempers of the kingdom, and preserving the credit of the monarchy; which is in effect to acknowledge themselves to be what the commons called them, enemies to the king and kingdom. Nothing can be more true, than that the kingdom can never recover its strength and reputation abroad, or its ancient peace and settlement at home, his majesty can never be relieved from his fears and his domestic wants, nor secure from the affronts which lie daily suffers from abroad, till he resolves not only to call parliaments, but to hearken to them when they are called. For without- that, it is not. a Declaration, it is not repeated promises, nay, it is not the frequent calling of parliaments which will convince the world, that the use of them is not intended to be laid aside. — However, we rejoice, that his majesty seems resolved to linve frequent parliaments, and hope he will be just to himself and us, by continuing constant to this resolution. Yet we cannot but doubt, in some degree, when we remember the speech mnde the 20th of January 1679, to both houses, wherein he told them, that he was unalterably of an opinion, that long intervals of parliaments were absolutely necessary, for composing and quieting the minds of the people. Therefore, which ought we rather to believe, the Speech or the Declaration, or which is likely to last longest? A resolution of an unalterable opinion, is a matter too nice for any but court critics to decide. The effectual performance of the last part of the promise will give us assurance of the first. When we see the real fruits of these utmost endeavours to extirpate popery out of parliament; when we see the duke of York no longer first minister, or rather Protector of these kingdoms, and his creatures no longer to have the whole direction of affairs; when we see that love to our religion and laws is no longer a crime at court, no longer a certain forerunner of being disgraced and removed from all offices and employments in their power; when the word loyal (which is faithful IP. Jones't Vindication of the [clxxii to the law) shall be restored to its old meaning, and no longer signify one who is for subverting the laws; when we sec the*commissions tilled with hearty Protestants, and the laws executed in good earnest against the Papists, the discoverers of the plot countenanced, or at least heard, and suffered to give their evidence, the courts of justice steady, and not avowing a jurisdiction one day, which they disown the next; no more grand juries discharged, lest they should hear witnesses; nor witnesses hurried away, lest they should inform grand juries; when we see no more instruments from court labouring to raise jealousies of Protestants at home, and some regard bad to Protestants abroad; when we observe soroewliat else to be meant by governing according to law, than barely to put in execution ag&inst Dissenters the laws made against Papists; then we shall promise ourselves not only frequent parliaments, but all the blessed effects of pursuing parliamentary councils, the extirpation of popery, the redress of grievances, the flourishing of laws, and the perfect restoring the monarchy to the credit which it ought to have, (but which the authors of the Declaration confess it wants) both at home and abroad. There needs no time to open the eyes of his majesty’s good subjects^nnd their hearts are ready prepared to meet him in parliament, in order to perfect oil the good settlement and peace, wanting in church and state. — But whilst there arc so many little emissaries employed, to sow and increase divisions in the nation, as if the ministers had a mind to make his majesty Urn head of a faciiou, and join himself to one party in the kingdom, who has a just right of governing all, (which Thuanus, lib. 28. says, was the notorious folly, and occasioned the destruction of his great grandmother Mary queen of Scots; ) whilst we see the same differences promoted industriously by the court, which gave the rise and progress to the late troubles, and which were once thought fit to be buried in an act of oblivion. Whilst we see the popish interest so plainly countenanced, which was then done with caution; when every pretence of prerogative is strained to the utmost height; when parliaments are used with contempt and indignity, and their judicature, and all their highest privileges brought in question in inferior courts, we have but too good cause to believe, that though every loyal and good man does, yet the ministers and favourites do indeed but little consider the rise and progress of the late troubles, and have little desire or care to preserve their country from a relapse. And who, as they never yet shewed regard to religion, liberty, or property, so they would be little concerned to seethe monarchy shaken off, if they might escape the vengeance of public justice, due to them for so long a course of peruicious counsels, and for crowning all the rest of .their faults by thus reflecting upon that high court, before which we do iu>t doubt but we shall see them one day brought to judgment. — Thus ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- let it be sacred and unchangeable, except upon just cause avowed to the party’s shame. In my time, many are grown to great estates, under your majesty’s royal father and yourself, and many are in a course to arrive at the like, whilst your majesty sinks into a debt; Iroro such you may confidently require diligent and clxxvii] faithful service and care, lo ease your majesty, and do your work; so that your honour and dignity may be supported, and so that ail your subjects may see and rejoice, that you have conferred your favours on such as reuder them* selves worthy thereof, and ease the great pains and troubles that attend so weighty a crown as your majesty’s is, to which their duty, as well as obligations bind them; and the strife among them should be only, who should servp so good a master best. I am sure I will have no difference with nor offend any of them, but upon that account; and therein I shall never doubt of protection and countenance from your majesty as far as I am trusted. I know your majesty bath received much disquiet, by the attempts to weaken or shake the legal succession of the crown, against your majesty’s declared resolution to the contrary; and cannot forget that 1 have often assured your majesty, such endeavours will he best diverted by wise and gentle handling of parliaments, and the right use of your house of peers, in such contests, wherein I have and ever shall be ready, in a parliamentary way, to do your maj. all the faithful service I am capable of, and to Bod out such expedients as may satisfy your people, that their religion and liberties may be secured by other ways, that shall neither displease nor discompose your maj. nor so much as raise in you a jealousy, that there is the least aim to invade your prerogative, or give you disquiet or disturbance. It is within my memory, that the great case of Habeas Corpus, the business of the Loans, &c. were bandied in parliament, viz. in the third year of your father’s reign, which produced the Petition of Right to he made a law. After thut, the case of Ship Money, which for more assurance, afterjudgment hi the house of peers against it, by their ordinary authority and power of judicature, was branded and condemned by act of parliament as illegal and arbitrary, and all the judges questioned for their extra judicial opinions; and yet, in this case, not only his majesty’s learned council, but all the judges, upon a case stated, were unanimous for the king’s right; but being drawn, ex parte (as the other cases were also) it was very easy through fear or weakness of judgment, or want of the due ventilation and digestion, that causes of such import were wont to have, after many days, hearing of council on both sides, and arguments at the bar and bench, to engage in mistakes; which, therefore, afterwards came to a public disquisition in the court of King’s Bench, and by writ of error, in the Exchequer-Chamber, upon the opposition of private subjects, who would not sit down in a case of that consequence, where they conceived and were advised the right lay on their sides, against the opinion of the judges; who hein^ pre-engaged by ex-judicial opinions, find before both in the King’s Bench, and all the judges of England, except three or Soar in the Exchequer Chamber, upon the writ of error, given judgment against the Vot, IV. Appendix, [clxxviii subject, yet, by the division of the judges, when it came to he an Exchequer Chamber case, (which I heard entirely) and the free and learned arguing thereof, and view of the records, for supporting of the liberties of the subject, the eyes of people were so opened, that the opposition to the payment of it grew general; and the Brst parliament, which was culled after, (as is before mentioned) put an end to that controversy for ever. The progress and conclusion of this case, ought to sway with your majesty, to be wary and circumspect in all cases of law for the future, that are not warranted by known law and practice, appearing upon mature ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e it, and had a dreadful progress and conclusion; yet the rise of it Was but fears and jealousies (no bigger I may say than a man's hand visible to us) whatsoever might be in the womb of providence. It is true no arming or gathering of forces now appears; there is no parliament in being, nor act in force, for any to continue until they will dissolve themselves: but the same English people which they were wont to represent, live in their own houses, claim their good old laws and liberties, and are watchful over them: who knows what the present licentious paper-war may produce ? It is’come to open quarrelling already, and quarrels bring bloodshed. The scene is only changed, from skirmishes and battles in the fields, and sieges of cities and towns; it is come now to contention in every house, to altercations and fightings between sheriffs and other officers, grand juries and petty juries; and they and the courts of justice who by law are the conservator* of our peace, are engaged in the quarrels, and verdicts are found, and judgments given, as the litigant parties exceed one the other in power and practice, more than by the merits of the cause, which engageth almost the whole people of one side or other in every case. So that now justice hath lost it's old, deep, still channel, and all causes are carried by a fierce, impetuous torrent, which invtime (if not diverted) nmy break all our banks, and prove a general inundation; for it is come to this already; that all reverence to ministerial officers, juries, and judges, is lust; and there is now no case of moment, almost, wherein there is not mustering of parties; and instead of parliaments, appeals are made to the people, tv ho can neither meet nor judge in a body, and therefore end all controversies, by quarrelling parties, whose judgment, if it were leijal, can neither be known nor executed but in parliament, where the collective body of your people meet by representation, and where these ill symptoms of a divided and distempered kingdom, can only hope for and receive a cure, which God and your majesty grant. The oracle of truth hath said, (That a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.' Things frame as if it were the design on all hands, to increase and foment divisions, instead of pacifying them; whence else is the intolerable licence of giving nick-names, and mnrks of distinction and reproach to one another, to challenge and publish chat tels of defiance, to scuiile and fight in the very streets and coffee-houses; and the dissenters in religion Mamed and suffer for all this, ns of old the erv was, Christ hums ad Leones, when there is such a general ferment of rancour and malice throughout the kingdom, as is never like to be removed, but by such remedies as shall be of- : Earl qfAnglesey'$ State rf [elm fered before I conclude. To the discomposed estate of your majesty's own kingdoms, the disjointed and dangerous condition of Christendom, by the over-grown greatness, and usurped dominion of the French king over other princes and states, doth not a little contribute; and when be shall have leisure and power to finish his secret councils and intrigues, to corrupt and engage in his designs your majesty’s dis- > affected or ambitious subjects, or prevail with your majesty to believe that his purse or power and strict friendship with your majesty are necessary, or but probable means to support your crown and dignity, and bridle the subjects which his artifices and insinuations have niised a jealousy of; it will occasion such a paroxism, and such convulsions in the state, as may dangerously shake and hazard the peace of your kingdoms, if not render your great and renowned government a prey to foreigners. But the fatal cause of all our mischiefs, present or apprehended, and which, if not by wisdom antidoted, may raise a fire which will burn and consume to the very foundations, is the unhappy perversion of the duke of York (the next heir to the crown) in point of religion, which naturall ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ms to be at work to dig the kingdom’s grave; and if God hath determined otir confusion, the least accidental disorder will too naturally bring things to a general complaint and quarrel about religion, laws, liberties and properties, unless, before the gan-green spread further, it be, by competent and wise council and steady government, made appear, that all these are secured past the fear or apprehension of all good and prudent men, and thereby that handle of contention wrested from the enemies, foreign and domestic, of our religion and peace. Towards the attaining that wished-for end, and the delivering us from oun divisions and fears, and rendering your majesty and kingdom safe, glorious, and happy; I shall now set before your majesty the most proper means and remedies that occur to nie, upon the most serious consideration. 1. To begin with parliaments, where your majesty is in your greatest glory, and your kingdom in its greatest strength, activity, and usefulness: your majesty, by your many declarations of your love to an A delight in them, and resolution of frequent assembling them, bath set such an ediie upon the spirits of your people (ever fond of parliaments) that hope deferred will make their hearts faint, and raise jealousies which inny breed ill blood before their meeting. But, preparatory to a better undei* standing, it were to be wished, that the been- ' cl xxx i] tious liberty now taken to asperse the memory and weaken the very constitution and power of parliaments, were seasonably discountenanced and corrected. The blaming and reprehending of parliaments, or either house thereof, is a peculiar prerogative fit for your majesty alone (who are the head of them, and whose great councils they are) and which is to be exercised according to the example of your majesty's most wise and prosperous predecessors only in parliament-time, when they may be heard and acquit themselves; or any slips, errors, or faults that shaH appear, may be reformed, amended, or redressed; or in cases disputable, new remedies applied to prevent future contests. Apd as the people in general, out of parliament, have no authority herein, much less a part of them; so I count it of very pernicious example and consequence, and no ways serviceable to your majesty, by whomsoever encouraged, that any numbers or degrees of men, have presumed (under what colour soever) to trample upon the honour of dissolved parliaments, and arraign their proceedings, which are only to be examined and judged by parliament, who can alone rectify the same, if found erroneous and unwarrantable. And I heartily wish this innovation may not prove one of the greatest obstacles to a good intelligence, the next parliament, and that it may never be questioned with too much heat and resentment; which whosoever shall be chosen to serve therein, may think it their concern to do effectually, for the safety and preserving % the chief privileges and rights of parliament, which are freedom and protection (so that none may entertain and vent dishonourable thoughts of them, to the violation of their good names or persons) and an exemption from being Questioned or impeached in any other court or place, but in that, the only supreme court of the kingdom. 2. It will be your honour and safety, to encourage and employ your ancient and deserving nobility and gentry, whose interest in their countries will be of more use and avail to your majesty, than all the bold and confident undertakings of those, who seek themselves chiefly in all their pretences of love and duty to your majesty, and really weaken and diminish the admiration, affection and esteem, which otherwise (from your gracious and wise government) your majesty may have with all your people, who are the most dutiful and fond of their prince in the world, if well and kindly used, as the most turbulent and fierce under the sun, if, by ill or unsteady management of affairs, and too much subjecting of them to the will and humour of their fellow-s ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- r royal prede-i eessors, or yourself; especially when the train, and design of them is visible, or hath its rise from your own court, or tend to foment heats and discontents, and raise jealousies. The great lord Bacon, viscount St. Alban’s, who was not only a wise statesman, but lord Chancellor of England, adviseth the king to be of.no faction or party, but to make use of and be above all, if any be in his kingdom! or they will much clxxxvii] APPENDIX, N° XVI. — The Stale, SfC. [clxxxvii. prejudice his authority and busioess. If any great roan, or others be suspected, on good grounds, guilty of dangerous practice or Crime, let the authority of the law, and not the cry of the people, (whether by art or inclination drawn to it) bear them down, who bawl hosanna and crucify, with equal zeal even against their Saviour: belter it were that ten malefactors escape, than one innocent person should suffer by practice, injustice, or violence. I should rejoice to see your people unanimously kind to your majesty, but for any to pretend it in diminution of better subjects than themselves, and in ways provoking, offensive and reproachful, tending to the disquiet of your majesty, and disturbance of the peace of the kingdom, all good and wise men from their very souls abhor, as time will shew, when this land-flood of contention and humour, if not Jesuitical practice, hath spent itself, which it will soon do, if not dangerously kept up and countenanced; in which case, as a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand, 30, if my fears upon intrigues succeed till the breach be wide as the sea, I have delivered ray own soul by this timely warning, which I hope you will graciously consider. And the working pens of libellers being daily at work, to undermine our peace, and foment divisions, not unlikely employed by the worst enemies of this kingdom and government, it will be the highest recommendation of your majesty’s kindness to, and care of your people, that this foul commou-sewer of distempered brains and tainted hearts, be diverted or shut up, lest it infect and poison the whole kingdom past recovery, and render the happiest church and state in the world, a scorn to fools. And to prevent so great mischief, it will be as glorious in your majesty, to discountenance even the libellers, boldly pretending to write in support of the crown (which, God be thanked, stands as unshaken upon your majesty’s head, as upon that of the greatest of your ancestors) as to punish others upon vain pretences, taking the same licence; so that the silencing and confusion of all libellers, as far as the law will warrant, may be one happy effect of your maj’s. good and powerful government; and when the make-bates and sowers of division cease, then mutual love may he restored. V. The last thing I shall trouble your maj. with, is concerning the provident management of your revenue, which will be the greatest help to keep all the parts of your government in order. I know well, and can make it manifest beyond contradiction, that vast reducements may be made of your charge in England, to general satisfaction, and with the discontent only of greedy officers and suitors, whose places may be better supplied of meritorious persons, or their issue, who being entailed to the crown by former favours to them or their ancestors for just merit, must be accounted better and stronger supports to your majesty, than those whose ambition or covetousness makes them croud the court; yet never to entail your favours to any will beget diligence, and raise expectation in your followers and dependents. I beseech your majesty to consider, what great things the crown of England bath done in former ages, with its own bare revenue, and by the love of its subjects, both in England, Ireland, and foreign countries; how your maj. comes now to be in pinclung wants, and none of those great undertakings upon your hands, is fit to be enquired. One thing is obvious to me, which will persuade that other instances of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v4.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- icarages and curacies. 9. .For taking away the .writ De Hsretieo comburendo. 10. For the better repairing and maintaining the pier of Great Yarmouth. 29 & 30 Car. II. — 1. Act for raising money by a poll, and otherwise, to enable his majesty APPENDIX, N° XVIIL — Acts passed in the Reign of Charles ccvii] APPENDIX, N°XVIII. — Actt pasted in the Reign of James II. fcCviii to enter into an actual war against the French king, and for prohibiting several Freuch commodities. 2. For continuance of two former acts for preventing of theft and rapine upon the northern borders of England. 30 Car. II. — 1. An act for granting a supply to his majesty of six hundred nineteen thousand three hundred eighty eight pounds, eleven shillings and nine pence, for disbanding the army and other uses therein mentioned. 2. For granting an additional duty to his majesty upon wines for three years. 3. For burying in woollen. 4. For the further relief and discharge of poor distressed prisoners for debt. 5. For repealing certain words in a clause in a former act, intituled, An act for enlarging and repairing of common highways^ 6. For reviving a former act, intituled, ‘ An act for avoiding unnecessary suits and delays; and for continuance of one other act, intituled, An act for the better settling of intestates estates. 7. To enable creditors to recover their debts of the executors and administrators of executors in their own wrong. 8. For admeasurement of keels and boats carrying coals. 9. For preservation of fishing in the river of Severn. 30 Car. II. Stat. 2. — An act for the more effectual preserving the king’s person and government, by disabling papists from sitting in either house of parliament. 31 Car. II. — 1. An act for granting a supply to his majesty of two hundred and six thousand, four hundred sixty-two pounds, seventeen shillings and three pence, for paying off and disbanding the forces raised since the nine and twentieth of September, 1677. 2. For the better securing the liberty of the subject, and for prevention of imprisonments beyond the seas. 3. For re-ingrossing of the records of fines burnt or lost m the late fire in the Temple. 32 Car. II. — 1. Additional act for burying in woollen. 2. Prohibiting the importation of cattle from Ireland. Jacobi II. Regis 1 Jac. — An act for settling the revenue on his majesty for his life, which was settled on his late majesty for his life. 2. To attaint James duke of IVIonmouth of high treason. 3. For granting his majesty an imposition upon all wines and vinegar, imported between the four and twentieth day of June, one thousand six hundred eighty-five, and the four and twentieth day of June, one thousand six hundred ninety and three. 4. For granting to his majesty an imposition upon all tobacco and sugar imported between the four and twentieth day of June, one thousand six hundred eighty five, and the four and twentieth day of June, one thousand six hundred- ninety-three. 5. For granting an aid to his majesty by an imposition on all French linens, and all East India liuen, and several other manufactures of India, and on all French wrought silks and stuffs, and on all other wrought silks, and on all brandies imported after the first day of July, one thousand six hundred and eighty five, and before the first day of July, one thousand six hundred and ninety, for the king's extraordinary occasions. 6. For repealing certain clauses in an act of parliament made in the nine and twentieth and thirtieth years of the reign of his late majesty, for prohibiting French commodities. 7. For reviving and continuing two former acts for encouragement of coinage. 8. Against the importation of gunpowder, arms, and other ammunition, and utensils of war. 9. To enable his majesty to make grants, leases, and copies of offices, lands and hereditaments, parcel of his highness's duchy of Cornwall, or annexed to the same, and for confirmation of leases and grants already made. 10. 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List of the Members of the Convention -Mr..Powel chosen Speaker of the House of Commons - The Prince of Orange’s Letter to both Houses — Debate thereon Address of both Houses to the Prince — The Prince’s Answer -Debate on filling up the Vacancies of the House - The King’s Letter to both Houses -Debate on the State of the Nation - Vote of the Commons, declaring the Throne vacant -Further Debate •» the State of the Nation - - '- Thanks voted to the Clergy, Army, and Navy - Proceedings in the Lords on the Vote of Vacancy A tumultuous Petition set on foot -Debate in the Commons on the Lords’ Amendment of the Word " Abdicated — A Conference with the Lords thereon Dbbath at a Fe*e Conference, relating to the Word "Abdicated" - The Lords agree tto the Vote of Vacancy - The Declaration of Rights - The Prince of Orange’s Answer thereto - 26 32 32 33 ' 34 35 36 50 50 58 58 60 61 66 103 103 111 WILLIAM AND MARY. William and Mary proclaimed King and Queen - 111 Settlement of the Court, Council, and Ministry. - - - - 113 The Convention turned into a Parliament - 118 18. The King’s Speech to both Houses - 118 19. Debate in the Commons on the King’s Speech - 119 Debate on the Bill for preventing Doubts concerning the assembling and sitting of this Parliament - - - - . - - - 122 The Convention voted a Parliament - 134 25. Further Debate in the Commons on the King’s Speech - 135 Debate on taking away the old Oaths of Allegiance, &c. - - 137 26. Debate on the King's Revenue - 138 27. The Commons resolve to stand by the King with their Lives and Fortunes ‘ - - - - - - - - -150 March 1. State of the Revenue delivered in by Sir R. Howard - 150 The King’s Message relative to the Hearth Money — Debate thereon 152 The King’s Message on committing several Persons — Debate thereon 153 Debate on the Bill for suspending the Habeas Corpus Act - 156 5% Report from the Committee of Grievances - 159 Debate on Grievances - 159 6. Protest on the Bill for regulating Trials - 162 8. The King’s Answer to the Address of Lives and Fortunes - 162 9. Debate on a Motion for printing the Votes - 164 11. Debate on the King’s Speech - 168 Debate on the Bill for annulling lord Russel’s Attainder - 169 Farther Debate on the King’s Revenue - 171 1688-9. Mar. 14. 15. 16. 90. 22. 25. 26. 28. April 4. 11. 19. 24. 26. 30. May 1. 4. 7. 8. 10, 13. 14. »7. 22. 23. June 1. 3. 12. 13. 14. 15. 18. Vot. V. TABLE OF CONTENTS. Page Debate on the Vote for indemnifying the Dutch - 175 Debate on the Mutiny of lord Dumbarton's Regiment - 179 Debate on the Bill for disarming Papists - 182 The King's Speech in favour of Dissenters - 184 Debate on the Bill for regulating Trials - 184 Account of the Produce of the Excise - 187 Estimate of the Charge of Government - 189 Further Debate on the King’s Revenue - 191 Debate on the Supply for Ireland - 193 Bill brought into the House of Lords to abrogate the former Oaths — Protest thereon - 196 The King’s Message, recommending a Bill of Indemnity — Debate thereon - 198 Debate on the Coronation Oath - 199 Estimate for the Fleet, and Extract of the Treaty with Holland - 206 Debate oh settling a Revenue on the Princess Anne - 207 Debate on the Coronation Oath - 208 The Bill of Comprehension — Protest thereon - 212 The King and Queen crowned — The Speaker’s congratulatory Speech to their Majesties upon the Coronation — The King^s Answer 215 Address of both Houses to the King, thanking him for his Care of the Protestant Religion — The King’s Answer - 216 Debate on the Lords’ Amendment of the Bill for abrogating the Oaths of Allegianfce and Supremacy-^-Conference on the said Bill — Protest against not agreeing with the Commons — The Lords ’ Reply to the Commons’ Reasons — Debate on the said Reply — Debate thereon at a second Free Conference - 218 Debate on rewarding the Duke of Schomberg - 231 Address of the Commons for a ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Priviledge (old spelling) ['Priviledge'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- er, refuses to produce his Books — Commissioners of the Hackney Coaches corrupted — Report of Corruptions in the East India Company’s AlTairs — Report of Corrupt Practices in procuring the passing ot* the Orphans’ Bill - The Speaker being charged with Corrupt Practices, absents himself from the House — Mr. Foley chosen Speaker — Sir John Trevor, the late Speaker, expelled - Mr. Bird reprimanded for offering a Bribe to a Member Mr. Hungerford expelled, and Sir Thomas Cooke sent to the Tower, for refusing to be examined - A Bill to oblige Sir Thomas Cooke to answer sent up to the Lords, ' and opposed by the Duke of Iieeds — Message to the Commons relating thereto — Sir T. Cooke heard by the Lords — The Duke of Leeds moves that he should purge the Peers upon Oath — Bill to indemnify Sir T. Cooke - The King’s short Speech for dispatch of Business - Report of Sir T. Cooke’s Examination by a Committee of both Houses Debate upon the said Report - Examination of Sir Basil Firebrace — And of Powell — And of Bates — Second Examination of Sir B. Firebrace — Examination of Sir Josiah Child - - Debate on the above Examinations - The Duke of Leeds voted to be impeached — The Duke’s Speech in the House of Lords — And in the House of Commons — Debate thereon - Articles of Impeachment against the Duke of Leeds — The Duke’s Speech thereon — The Duke complains of delay, and desires his Impeachment may be discharged - Page 849 857 858 859 860 862 863 8C5 881 906 910 911 911 913 914 921 922 930 933 937 1695. TABLE OF CONTENTS. May 2. The offering of Money to a Member voted a High Crime and Mis- demeanour - 939 3. The Duke of Leeds arraigns the Conduct of the Commons - 940 The Parliament prorogued - 941 Proceedings relative to the Lancashire Plot - 942 Case of Baronies by Writ — Protest thereon - 947 Speech of the Marquis of Normanby in the Affair of the Convex Lights — Protest against acquitting the said Marquis - 94.9 The ill state of the Coin redressed - - -, - - 955 Mr. Seobell’s Report concerning the Coinage - 956 The King’s Speech at the close of the Session-^Promotions — The Parliament dissolved - 957 First Session of the Third Parliament. Nov. 22. 26. Dec. 14. 1695-6. Feb. 24. 1696. April 2. 10. 27. List of the House of Commons -Mr. Foley chosen Speaker - The King’s Speech on opening the Session - Addresses of both Houses — The King’s Answer Bill for regulating Trials in Cases of Treason Order respecting Protections — The Supplies granted Proceedings on the ill state of the Coin -Proceedings relating to the Scotch East India Company -Lord Belhayen and others impeached thereon A Council of Trade voted - A Grant of the Revenues of Wales to the Earl of Portland opposed — Debate thereon - Mr. Price’s memorable Speech against the said Grant -Address to the King respecting the said Grant — His Answer strongly The King’s Speech on the Discovery of the Assassination Plot — Address of both Houses thereon — The King’s Answer — Resolutions occasioned by the Plot - An Association signed by the Commons — Another by the Lords Bill for the Security of His Majesty’s Person -A Bill for regulating Elections rejected ----The King’s Speech at the close of the Session - 958 963 964 965 965 966 967 975 970 977 978 979 985 987 991 993 993 994 Second Session of the Third Parliament. Oct 20. The King’s Speech on Opening the Session 995 The Commons’ Address — The King’s Answer - 996 Vote on the State of the Coin — Army and Navy Estimates - 996 28. Pamphlets censured — The Supplies voted - 997 Proceedings against Sir John Fenwick upon a Bill of Attainder — A Bill of Attainder ordered — Mr. Manley, a Member, committed to the Tower — Debate concerning the Mace — The Bill read to Sir John — Mr. Serjeant Gould opens the Charge and Evidence — Debate thereon — Resolved, to give Sir John further time; but that Evidence may be given of the Treason of the Indictment — Porter’s Evidence — Debate on admitting Evidence that Lady Fenwick had tampered with the Witnesses — Debate on admitting Goodman’s Examination as Evidence — Debate on the Question for reading the Record of Cook’s Conviction — Debate on calling for Cook’s Jury as Evidence — Sir John’s letter to his Lady ollercd as Evidence; but rejected — The Gentlemen charged by Sir John, 1690. Not. 27. l>ec. 8. 9. 30. 1696-7. Jan. 21. 1697. Apr. 16. Dec. 3. 9. 20. 1697-S. Feb. 9. 1698. Apr. 16. May 4. 21. July 5. TABLE OF CONTENTS. move, that he may prove the Charge — Sir John refuses to answer on that Head — Mr. Vernon relates the Endeavours made by Sir John to put off his Trial — Debate on committing the Bill — And on the third Reading — The Bill sent up to the Lords and passed — List of the Lords for and against the Bill — Protest thereon -Proceedings for the purpose of relieving the Embarrassments of the Revenue - Priviledged Places disfranchised - Case of Conrade Greibe — Address thereon — The King’s Answer Inquiry into the Conduct of the Fleet - Report of the Committee upon the Abuses of Prisons - Orders for dispersing a Mob — Votes relating to the Newfoundland Trade — The Printer of the Flying Post ordered into Custody — A Bill to restrain the Press rejected - The King’s Speech at the close of the Session - Third Session or the Third Parliament. The King’s Speech on opening the Session - The Commons’ Address — The King’s Answer - The Commons resolve to disband the Army - A Civil List settled on his Majesty for Lite — Sums granted, and for what Uses - Enquiry into the False Endorsements on Exchequer Bills: And Dun-comb and Knight, two Members, expelled for the same A Bill of Resumption ordered - Address of the Commons to put the Laws in force against Profaneness and Immorality — The King’s Answer — An Act for suppressing Atheism, &c. - The Earl of Macclesfield’s Case - Impeachment of Gaudet and Others of High Crimes and Misdemeanours — Issue of the said Impeachment - The Dispute between the two East India Companies — A Bill passed in favour of the New Company — Protest thereon Molyneux’s " Case of Ireland" complained of — Address thereon - The King’s Speech at the close of the Session - The Parliament prorogued and dissolved - First Session of the Fourth Parliament. Dec. 6, List of the House of Commons - Sir Thomas Littleton chosen Speaker - 9. The King’s Speech on opening the Session - Vote to reduce the Army — The King’s Speech thereon- — Address of the Commons thereon — The King’s Answer - 1698-9. Mar. 17. The King’s Message concerning the Dutch Guards — The Commons’ Address in Answer thereto — The King’s Answer - 1699. Mar. 29. The Commons’ Address on the State of the Navy — The King’s Answer - The Earl of Warwick and Lord Mohun tried for a Murder j and acquitted - Page 998 1156 1161 -1161 1162 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167 1168 1170 1171 1172 ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nder arbitrary government. To this Parliament we will also refer the inquiry into the Birth of the pretended Prince of Wales, and of all things relating to it, and to the Right of Succession. — And we, for our part, will concur in every thing that may procure the peace and happiness of the nation, wrhicb a free and lawful Parliament shall determine; since we have Ill nothing before our eyes, in this our undertaking, but the preservation of the Protestant Religion, the covering of all men from Persecution for their Consciences, and the securing to the whole nation the free enjoyment of their Laws, Rights and Liberties, under a just and legal government. — This is the Design that we have purposed to ourselves in appearing upon this occasion in arms'; in the conduct of which, we will keep the Forces under our command under all strictness of martial discipline, and take a special care, that the people of the countries through which we must march shall not suffer by their means; and, as soon as the state of the nation will admit of it, we promise, that we will send back all those foreign forces that we have brought along with us. — We do therefore hope, that all people will judge rightly of us, and approve of these our proceedings: but we chiefly rely on the blessing of God, for the success of this our undertaking, in which we place our whole and only confidence. — We do, in the last place, invite and require all persons whatsoever, all the peers of the realm, both spiritual and temporal, all lords lieutenants, deputy lieutenants, and all gentlemen, citizens, and other commons of all ranks, to come and assist us, in order to the executing of this our Design, against all such as shall endeavour to oppose us, that so we may prevent all those miseries which must needs follow upon the nation's being kept under arbitrary government and slavery, and that all the violences and disorders, which may have overturned the whole Constitution of the English government, may be fully redressed, in a free and legal Parliament. — And we do likewise resolve, as soon as the nations are brought to a state of quiet, we will take care that a Parliament shall be called in Scotland, for the restoring the ancient constitution of that kingdom; and for bringing the Matters of Religion to such a Settlement, that the people may live easy and happy; and for putting an end to all the unjust violences that have been in a course of so many years committed there. — We will also study to bring the kingdom of Ireland to such a state, that the Settlement there may he religiously observed; and that the Protestant and British interest there may be secured. And we will endeavour, by all possible means, to procure such an Establishment in all the three kingdoms, that they may all live in a happy union and correspond together; and that the Protestant Religion, and the Peace, honour, and happiness of these nations may be established upon lasting foundations. — Given under our hand and seal, at our court in the Hague, the 10th day of October, in the year 1688. William Henry, Prince of Orange." The Prince of Orange?* Additional Declaration.'] The above Declaration was printed and ready to be sent over to England, together with another to the same effect for Scotland; when his highness being informed that king James had taken measures to render it ineffectual, caused the following Addition to be made to it: [12 " After we had prepared and printed this our Declaration, We have understood, that the Subverters of Urn Religion and Laws of those kingdoms, hearing of our Preparations to assist the people against them, have begun to retract some of the arbitrary and despotic powers that they had assumed, and to vacate some of their unjust Judgments and Decrees. The sense of their guilt, and the distrust of their force, have induced them to offer to the city of lx>ndon, some seeming relief from their great oppressions; hoping thereby to quiet the people, and to divert tlrem from demanding ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ] Besides the above, a spurious Declaration* was published in the Prince’s name, which is said to have produced a considerable effect. It was as follows: * W'e have in the whole course of our life, and more particularly by the apparent hazards both by sea and land, to which we have so lately exposed our person, given to the world so high and undoubted proofs of our fervent zeal to the Protestant Religion, that we are fully confident no true Englishman and good Protestant can entertain the least suspicion of our firm resolution, rather to spend our dearest blood, and perish in the attempt, than not to carry on the blessed and glorious design, which, by the favour of Heaven, we have so successfully begun, to rescue England, Scotland and Ireland from Popery and Slavery, and in a free parliament to establish the Religion, the Laws and Liberties of these kingdoms on such a sure and lasting foundation, that it shall not be in the power of any prince for the future to introduce Popery and Tyranny. — Towards the more easy compassing this great design, we have not been hitherto deceived in the just expectation we had of the concurrence of the nobility, gentry, and people of England with us, for the security of their Religion, and the establishment of their Liberties and Properties. Great numbers of all ranks and qualities have joined themselves to os; and others, at great distances from os, have taken up arms and declared for ns: and, which we cannot but particularly mention, in that Army which was raised to be the instrument of Slavery and Popery, many, by the special providence of God, both officers and common soldiers, have been touched with such a feeling sense of religion and honour, and of true affection to their native country, that they have already deserted the illegal service they were engaged in, and have come over to us, and have given us full assurance from the rest of the army, that they will certainly * " This was the boldest attempt that ever was made by a private person; and was supposed to have been done by Ferguson or Johnson; but of late Mr. Hugh Speke has assumed the honour of it to himself: a thing which we y experience, to be inconsistent with the safety and welfare of this Protestant kingdom, to be governed by a Popish Prince." Mr. Wharton. You resolved, by Vote, yesterday, 4 That the Throne was vacant; ' and I suppose every gentleman, and those few that were against the Vote, are now for filling the throne, and resettling the government; and I hope it will be done as near the ancient government as can be. It is a matter of the greatest weight, and deserves the greatest consideration. Consider of it a thousand years, and you cannot cast your eyes upon a person so well to fill it as the prince and princess of Orange. To them we owe all our safety; most of us, by this time, must either have been slaves to the Papists, or hanged. I hope, that, for the future, we shall have security and preserration from them, and put them in a condition 53] PARL. HISTORY, Interregnum, 1688*9- — Debate on the State tf the Nation. [54 of saving us from our dangers far the future. As you did yesterday, so I desire you will now call upon the gentlemen of the long robe to put you in some way practicable. I have read the story of Philip and Mary; that was not a good reign, and so not a good precedent; but I hope wc shall be all happy under king William add queen Mary. Lord Falkland. It concerns us to take such care, that, as the Prince of Orange has secured us from Popery, we may sec ire ourselves from Arbitrary Government. The Prince’s Declaration is for a lasting foundation of the government. I would know what our foundation is. Before the que6tion be put, who shall be set upon the Throne, I would consider what powers w« ought to give the crown, to satisfy them that sent U6 hither. We have had a prince that did dispense with our laws; and I hope we shall never leave that doubtful. The king set up an Ecclesiastical Court, as he wa6 Supreme Head of the Church, and acted against law, and made himself head of the Charters. Therefore, before you fill the throne, 1 would have you resolve, what power you will give the king, and what not. Mr. Garroway. We have had such violation of our liberties in the last reigns, that the prince of Orange cannot take it ill, if we make conditions, to secure ourselves for the future; and in it we shall but do justice to those who sent us hither, and not deliver them up without very good reason. Sir Wm. William. When we have considered the preservation of the laws of England for the future, then it will he time to consider the persons to All the Throne. The Prince’s Deaeration has given us a fair platform. Some of your laws have been very grievous to the people, though not Grievances; and perhaps those occasioned arbitrary government. Those are to ba redressed. Because king Charles 2 was called home by the Convention, and nothing settled, you found the consequence. Charles S was a young man, in the strength of his youth, and, you know, much money was given him, and what became of it ? The act of the Militia is worthy your consideration, and he in whose hands you will put it should be our bead. I take it to be your security to •ettie your safety for the future, and then to consider the person. I now speak for all England. I would consider purging Corporations, and arbitrary power given the late king by the judges: weak judges will do weak things; their roaster commands them; they read no books, and know nothing to the contrary. 1 could give many more instances. Sir Rd. Temple. I hope you will not leave till you see bow we got out of our rights. Secure your liberties, and you cannot belter recommend the government to one to succeed than by settling these things. I will reduce my thoughts to three heads essentially necessary: 1. Encroachment upon Parliament, (tho* in the hands where you will place the government there may be no danger) to secure poste- rity; and you may have time to call persons to account that break parliaments, when they will not do what pleased; to provide for their certainty and frequency, and that persons oh-tain not Pardons when they have ruined the nation; and to provide for Elections of Parliaments, that Corporations may not be made tools to nominate whom they please; to provide against a Standing Army without consent of parliament, not in peace, when there is uo war nor rebellion. An Army was no part of the government till the late Ling’s time. The Militia Act was made use of to disarm all England. 2. Your care should be, that Wcsb-ininster-ball be better filled with Judges, and not, under pretence of the king’s prerogative, to give aivay all. That the Judges be during life, ’ and that they have Salaries instead of Fees: that Sherilfs make not unjust returns of juries, and that Westminster-hall have as little power ns you can. Formerly Westminster-hall decided not great cases, but left them to . parliament. The Judges now do not only dicere but facere.In new and difficult cases, this will be the way to preserve you from what they are bid to judge. 3. The Coronation-Oath to be taken upon entrance into the government; and, as we arc sworn to our kings, so they to be sworn to protect us. Pursue the ends of the Priuce’s Declaration, with some such securities as I have mentioned, that these things may be taken care of; to recommend to posterity wlmt you have done for them. Mr. Boscawen. We know, that the Prince’s Declaration pursues all those ends mentioned. But Arbitrary Government was not only by the late king that is gone, but by his ministers, and farthered by extravagant acts of the Long Parliament. The Act for regulating Corporations was upon a specious pretence to secure the crown, but had the cud with the commissions for regulating Corporations. Though ever so loyal, yet if they did'ered from the designs of the ministry, they were put out. The Militia, under pretence uf persons disturbing the government, disarmed and imprisoned men without any cause: I myself was so dealt with. There is a clause in the Militia-Act, for a week’s tax after 70,000l. for trophies, and not to exceed it; but as it is now practised, 2 or 3 years have been collected together, without regard to the act. Arbitrary Power is ill in a prince, but abominable to one another. The Triennial Bill for parliaments was but a device, when we were going into slavery; but by such an act, if we have no redress of Grievances (as Mr. Vaughan, of this house, then said, who was as much for the king as any) ‘ better to have no law at all.’ I move, that these things may be taken into consideration. Resolved, 4‘ That, before the Committee proceed to 611 the Throne, now vacant, they will proceed to secure our Religion, Laws, and Liberties." Serjeant Maynard. I agree to the Vote; but I fear, if we look so much one way on Arbitrary Government, wc tuay sit five years, 55] PARL. HISTORY, Interregnum, 1688-9- — Debate on the State of the Nation. [5(> and never come to an end of what has been moved. One says, in the Saxon time, the people wfere much puzzled. One king made one law, and another king another.’ Another drives at a new Magna Charta. The former Parliaments cared not which w ay they run, so Pensions were paid. The management of the Militia was an abominable thing. Many speak, in coffee-houses and better places, of tine things for you to do, that you may do nothing but spend your health, and be in confusion. Take care of over-loading your horse, not to undertake too many things. 1 would go only to things obvious and apparent, and not into particulars too much. Lord Falkland. We must not only change hands, but things; not only take care that we have a king and prince over us, but for the future, that he may not govern ill. Some, perhaps, arc dis-satisfied with the power, some with the army. It is for the people’s sake we do all, that posterity may never be in danger of Popery and Arbitrary Power. Mr. Sacheverell.Since God hath put this opportunity into our hands, all the world will laugh at us, if we make a half settlement. As the case stands, no man can tell that what he has is his own. Unless you look backward how men have been imprisoned, fined, severely dealt with; the same may happen to other gentlemen. We must look a great way backward. I cannot find three laws, from 20 years upwards, that deserve to be continued. In the great joy of the king’s, return, the parliament overshot themselves so much, and to redress a few Grievances they got so much Money, that they could live without you; pensions were agreed for so much in the hundred for all they gave; Warrants of Commitments, Arms taken from persons, See. They were ill-affected to the government, because they endeavoured to chuse persons they liked not. You may look back a great way; but secure this house, that parliaments be duly chosen, and not kicked out at pleasure; which never could have been done, without such an extravagant Revenue that they might never stand in need of parliaments. Secure the Right of Elections, and the Legislative Power. Mr. Pollexfen.First make a Settlement of the Laws, that they may he asserted, and those must all be consulted by lords and commons, and then settle the crown. Every man sees the nature of this proposition; if this be to confound you, it is a dreadful proposition: I am as much for amendment of the government as any man, and for repressing the exorbitances of it; but the way you are in will not settle the government, but restore king James again. If but a noise of this goes beyond sea, 'that you are making laws to bind your prince, it will tend to confusion. The greatest enemy you have cannot advise better. One kingdom is gone already, and this is in confusion. Some of the Clergy are for one thing, some for another; I think they scarce know what they would have; and the more we divide, the more it makes way for the Popish interest. Popery is the fear of the nation, and all that have voted against Popery may fear Popery. But now we begin to forget it. Formerly it was thought impossible that Popery should come in, and that the Tests would keep it out. But how can we bring to pass all these Proposals, before he is king? We cannot; and when he is king, perhaps he will not pass these into laws. To stand talking, and making laws, and in the mean time have no government at all ! they hope better things from our actions abroad, and a better foundation of the Protestant interest. The Prince's Declaration is the cause of your coming hither, that the kingdom may be established, and the laws and government secured from being subverted again. If we stand talking here, wc shall do as strange things as those who prevailed by arms in the late times; and, not corning to a Settlement, it ended in their own destruction, and never came into any settled government; so the authority of the king swept away all at last. We lately had a bill of Exclusion; it was talked of so long, that both parties suffered, one formerly, the other since. A law you cannot make till you have a king. The thing you go upon is not practicable. One gentleman is of opinion ‘ to take away all laws since this king came to the crownanother 1 to make a new Magna Charta; ’ If you sit till all these motions are considered, we may think to make our peace with king James as well as we can, and go homo. Mr. Garroway. I would not draw this de- bate out at length; somewhat must be done:a great many things have been named by several persons to be redressed. 1 hope we do not go about to sit here till all be done. All we can do for the present is, to represent to the Prince that these things may be done, and, under some short Heads, to present the Prince with what you would have done to give security to the government; and let an Oath he administered to him; and in a few days you may come to your end. Mr. Seymour. We shall suffer by our doing more than by reason of not doing at all. Will you think fit to leave the dispensing power unquestioned in Westminster-Hall ? Though the clock do not strike twelve at once, must it not strike at all? Will you do nothing, because you cannot do all ? Will you let men go in the same practices they have formerly ? Will you establish the Crown, and not secure yourselves ? What care I for what is done abroad, if we must be slaves in England, in this or in that man’s power ? If people are drunk and rude below, as was complained of, most that stop proceedings in parliament ? Sir Thomas Lee. I find there is a difference in the committee, how to word the question. I know not how to propose words to reach •very man’s sense. If you put it so general, how our Liberties have been invaded, perhaps a few days will state it. There wa9 an opinion, formerly, of the long robe that must be 57] PARL. HISTORY, Interregnum, 1688-9- — Debate the State of the Nation. [58 exploded, That the king may raise what Army he pleases, if he pay them/ That is the support of slavery, when there is other support to the king than the people’s affections to their prince. Col. Bireh. I am as much afraid of losing time as any body: whereas disorders of the Army in Ireland are spoken of, they will be still worse, unless provision be made to keep os from Slavery and Popery. I differ from what gentlemen say, as to the time it will take you op. 1 think it will not take you a day’s time, when you have filled the Vacancy of the Throne. Prepare what you would have repealed, and present it. As to the Fast moved for, I know not what we should fast for. I will not call tomorrow Sunday, (January 30.) for I do not find it called so in books:I would sit tomorrow, and I hope to make an end tomorrow. There is a Tax called Hearth-money; take that away, and the Prince will hove ten times more safety than in all his Army; and that may be in one line. Mr. Hampden, jun.* You are, by order, to consider the State of the Nation. Though you have voted, that king James has abdicated the crown, you have not done all; we are still free, and not tied by Oaths. The time presses bard, on many accounts; and to rise without doing more than filling the Throne that is vacant, is not for the safety of the people. It is necessary to declare the Constitution and Rule of the government. In the late Convention, there was a Vote passed, That the Government was io king, lords, and commons.' I move that the Journal may be inspected. You have voted, That king James has violated the Constitution of the nation/ call the chief governor what you will. Mr. Harbord. You have an infallible security for the administration of the government: all the Revenue is in your own hands, which fell with the last king, and you may keep that back. Can he whom you place on the throne support the government without the Revenue ? Can he do good or harm without it ? It is reasonable that you should be redressed by laws; • " Grandson of him who had pleaded the cause of England in the point of Ship-money, with king Charles 1. His father was a very eminent man, and zealous in the Exclusion. He was a young man of great parts, and one of the leamedest gentlemen I have ever known, for he was a critic both in Latin, Greek, and Hebrew. He was a man of great heat and vivacity, but too unequal in his temper." Cornet. He was tried at the court of King’s Bench in 1683, for a conspiracy to disturb the peace of the realm, and fined 40,000l. the most extravagant fine that had been ever set for a misdemeanor in that court. He was afterwards, on king James’s accession, tried for high treason at the Old Bailey, for the same offence, and condemned, but his life was saved. He afterwards cut his own throat. but unless you preserve your government, your papers cannot protect you. Without your sword, how will you be secured from the dangers from Ireland, and the mutiny of the Army ? All may be lost, whilst you are considering. Sir Kd. Temple. We here represent all the nation. Place the government in some person, and then provide for the rest. Sir Christ. Musgrave. In justification of your Vote yesterday, to declare your Grievances, you are to declare wherein king James 2. has broken the laws, and whom you have put by the government. You must have wheels, before you can put the cart upon them. In the first place, put the question, " That you will proceed in asserting the Rights and Liberties of the nation; and that you will appoint a Committee to bring in genera) Heads, of such things as are absolutely necessary for securing the Laws and Liberties of the nation." A Committee was appointed accordingly. Thanks voted to the Clergy, Army, and Navy.] The commons resolved, nem. con. That the Thanks of this house be given to the Clergy of the Church of England, who have preached and written against Popery, and refused to read, in their Churches, the late king’s Declaration for Toleration, in opposition to the pretended Dispensing Power, claimed in the reign of the late king James 2. and have opposed the late illegal Ecclesiastical Commission." Resolved, nero. con. " That the Thanks of this house be given to the Officers, Soldiers, and Mariners, in the Army and Fleet, for having testified their steady adherence to the Protestant Religion, and being instrumental in delivering this kingdom from Popery and Slavery; and also to all such who have appeared in arms for that purpose." Proceedings in the H. of Lords on the Vote of Vacancy.] On receiving the Vote from the commons declaring the Throne vacant, the house of lords resolved into a committee of the whole house, of which the earl of Danby was chairman. The first motion that was made, was, Not to agree with the Commons, That the Throne was vacant/ but only first to suppose it, for the present, leaving it to be farther examined afterwards, in order to cut short several other questions, by determining this first, Whether the Throne being vacant, it ought to be filled up by a Regent or a King?' This question was debated with great learning, much skill, and no little warmth: among the orators, the earl of Nottingham brought many arguments from the Eng ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- re, the lord Delaroere and others, to the number of 40, entered their Protestations against the Vote of the day before, namely, * That the Throne was not vacant. * A tumultuous Petition set on .] Feb. 1. While these matters were tvarinly debated in the Convention and the town, and all men still in suspense which way thty would be determined, this day spine zealous persons set on foot the following Petition, and endeavoured to get it subscribed by the multitude indifferently, going to all public places to solicit men’s hands:" To the lords spiritual and temporal assembled in the grand Convention, the humble Petition of great numbers of citizens, and other inhabitants of the cities of London and Westminster. Whereas, we are in a deep sense of the danger of delays, and perplexed debates about settling the Government, at this time vacant, by reason whereof the necessary ends of government cannot be duly administered, we humbly desire that his most illustrious highness the Prince of Orange, and his roynl consort the Princess, may be speedily settled on the Throne, by whose courage, conduct and reputation, this nation and the Protestant Religion may be defended from our enemies at home and abroad; and that Ireland, now in a bleeding and deplorable condition, may be rescued from its miseries, and these kingdoms settled on a lasting foundation in Peace and Liberty." — Whereupon, his highness the Prince being informed of the ill consequences and scandal of this way of pro-: ceeding, caused the following Order to be made and published to suppress it: " By the Lord-Mayor, &c. Whereas his highness the Prince of Orange has been pleased to signify to me this day, that divers persons (pretending themselves to be citizens of London) in a tumultuous and disorderly manner have lately disturbed the present Convention of the lords and commons at Westminster, upon pretence of petitioning; it being regular and usual for the citizens of this city, that are under the apprehension of any Grievance, to make their application to noyseif, and the Court of Aldermen:therefore, with the advice of my brethren, the aldermen of this city, these are to require you, that you command within your ward, that they forbear any tumultuous disturbance, or assembly, as they will answer the contrary at their utmost peril.*' * Feb. 2. Their lordships sent a Message to the commons, to acquaint them, That they had considered of their Vote of the 28th of January last, to which they concurred, with these two Amendments; first, instead of the word * Abdicated, * they would have ‘ Deserted' be put in; and next, these words, (And that the Throne is thereby vacant, * to be left out. * Ecbard. 6l] PARL. HISTORY, Intekregititv, 1688-9- — Debate on the Word / [6t Debate in the Commons on the Lord's Amend- ment of the Word 4Abdicated.’] Sir Rd. Temple. You have considered the word abdicated’ ns the only proper word. As for deserted/ I appeal whether it is a proper conclusion to the premises. The lords have left out the whole conclusion in the matter. They have agreed that king James has subverted the Constitution of the government, has violated the original contract, and has withdrawn himself, See.* Consider whether this be a proper conclusion. By doing these acts, he has most plainly, abdicated the governmentby the premises plainly, by subverting the constitution, he will govern by an arbitrary power, though sworn to rule according to original contract. The hour he does it, it is a renunciation of the government. Hottoman, and all approved authors, call this Abdicating the Government/ Henry 6. upon fear of the earl of Warwick, went out of the kingdom, and left it; and, that, by all the Judges, was judged 4 a Demise/ I desire you will not agree with the lords. Mr. Hampden. The dispute with the lords is about a word changed. It is your word now, the word of the house, and I was ever of opinion the most proper word. 4 Forsaken, forfeited/ and other words, were mentioned here; but, I th ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; but he did agree to us also, That there is no such word in our common law as deserted that is, which should signify, by the stamp the law puts upon it, any sense applicable to the matter in hand. — Then if we must not use our word, because unknown to our common law; neither roust we use your lordships for the same reason, and so shall be at an entire loss what word to use; and so, indeed, they may well come to consider the conclusion first, who leave us at uncertainties on what terms we are to discourse:and there cannot be a greater confusion in any debate, than to state a conclusion without the premises; which we must do, if we cannot agree how to word the fact we infer from. — My lords, 1 shall not much differ from what in general has been said concerning the sense of the word abdicated / for it seems to be agreed on all bands that it is a Renunciation:Neither will 1 contend for an involuntary Abdication / because I think it means a 4 voluntary Actbut truly what your lordships mean, in your Reason against it, by the word express/ I cannot so well understand. — That a king may renounce' his kingship, I think, may be made out both in law and fact, as well as any other Renunciation; and that, as fa* as I can discern by your lordships Reasons, and this day’s debate hitherto, is not intended to be denied by any. Indeed, some of roy lords have told us. That there it is meant of the exercise of a right which may be renounced, without renouncing that right. Whether that be a true distinction or no, is not very material; but if it be, that the very kingship itself (as including a right to govern) may he renounced/ and hath been, it will be no difficulty to make out, by instances iu all countries, not only where the crown is, or was, elective, but also where it was hereditary and successive' — If a king will resign* or renounce/ he may do so, as particularly Charles the 5th. The Earl of Pembroke. That was an express solemn Renunciation. Sir George Treby. My lords, the particular manner of doing it, is, I take it, not matter in debate just now before us, till it be settled whether a king can abdicate’ at all, or renounce' his kingship at all; this then being granted, That a king may renounce, may resign, may part with his office, as well as the exercise of it, then the question indeed is, Whether this king hath done so or no ? — That he may do it, I take it for granted, it being aa act of the will: then let us now enquire into the facts, as set out in the Vote, whether this will of his be manifest. For that you have heard it may be discovered several ways; the discovery may be by writing, it may be by words, it may be by facts:Grot ins himself, and all the authors that treat of this matter, and the nature of it, do agree, That if there he any word, or action, that doth sufficiently manifest the intention of the mind and will, to part with his office, that will amount to an Abdication, or Renouncing. — Now, my lords, I beg leave to put this case, That had king James 2 come here into the assembly of the lords and cominous, and expressed himself in writing, or words, to this purpose; 41 was born an heir to the crown of England, which is a government limited by laws made in full parliament, by king, nobles, and commonalty; and, upon the death of my last predecessor, I am iu pos- Si] PARL. HISTORY, Interregnum, 1688-9. — 011 [82 session of the throne; and, now I find, I cannot make laws without the consent of the lords * and representatives of the commons in parliament; 1 cannbt suspend laws that have been so made, without the consent of my people: this indeed is the title of kingship I hold b^' original contract, and the fundamental constitutions of the government, and my succession to and possession of the crown, on these terms, is part of that contract. This part of the contract I am weary of, I do renounce it, I will not be obliged to observe it; nuy, 1 am under an invincible obligation not to comply with it; I will not execute the laws that ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Praemunire (legal term) MATCH TEXT: 'praemunire' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- establish the oath of allegiance and supremacy, we are tied up to keep m the hereditary line, being sworn to be true and faithful to the king, his heirs and successors; whereas the old oath was, only to bear true allegiance to the king. There (I take it) lies the reason why we cannot (of ourselves) without brenking that contract, break the succession, which is .settled by law, and cannot be 103] PARL. HISTORY, Interregnum, 1688-9. — Debate at a Free Conference [104 altered but by another, which we ourselves cannot make. Sir George Trebi/.Your lordship is pleased to say, Hen. 7’s title by descent was an usurpation. 1 think it is pretty hard to determine what title he did govern by, since, though his wife was tlic lineal heir, yet she had no part, or so much as a name in the administration. And if it were too great an issue to be tried then, it will be harder to do it now. And it lias been said, it was his mother’s council to liim, not to declare particularly upon what foot his title stood. — But, my lords, if we should allow none for acts of parliament but those that were made in the reigns of hereditary kings, and in the right line, I doubt we should want the greatest part of those laws that compose the volume of Statute Books, and the Kccords by which we enjoy a great part of our inheritances and possessions. Mr. Serj. Mai, nurd.If we look but into the law of nature (that j$ above all human laws) we have enough to justify us in what we are now a doing, to provide for ourselves and the public weal in such an exigency as this. Sir ltd. Tunple.If laws made about the succession be so obliging, what then shall we say to the succession of queen Elizabeth, who had an act of parliament (to the keeping of which an oath tvas required) against both her and her sister. The Earl of Pembroke. But to shew what opinion she herself and the wise men of her times had, and were of, in this point, there is an act made in her reign, and yet in being, which declares it to be a praemunire to affirm, the parliament cannot settle the succession of the crown, or alter it. Entails in parliament have been of the crown, both ancient and modern, yet the authority of another subsequent act has prevailed against such an entail:so that it should be done, I say, in parliament. Sir ltd. Temple. I think we are in ns full a capacity to take care of the government ns any of our predecessors, in such an exigence; and if we do as they have done before us, that is not to be called a changing of the monarchy from an hereditary to an elective. The Earl of Nottingham. After this long debate, pray let us endeavour to come as near ns we* can to an agreement: we have proposed some questions about which my lords desired to he satisfied:you, gentlemen, have not been pleased to give an answer to them, and we have no great hopes of getting one from you, as this debate seems to be managed. — On your part you have declared, that you do acknowledge the monarchy is hereditary and successive in the right line; then I cannot see how such au acknowledgment consists with the reasons you give for your vacancy; - for I cannot imagine how a kingdom can be an hereditary kingdom, and that king who hath children now in being (at the time of his forsaking the government) can have the throne vacant both of him and his children. — The course of inhe- ritance, os to the crown of England, is, by our law, a great deal better provided for, and runs stronger in the right line of birth than of any other inheritance. No attainder of the heir of the crown will bar the succession to the throne, as it doth the descent to any common person. The very descent, by order of birth, will take away any such defect. — -And so was the opinion of the great lawyers of England, in the case of Hen. 7lh. Then cannot I apprehend how any act of the father’s can bar the right of the child; (I do not mean that an act of parliament cannot do it) 1 never said so, nor thought so; but, I say, no act of the father’s alone c ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'Liberty of the Subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of the Subject ['Liberty of the Subject']; Right of the Subject ['Right of the Subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- both houses had agreed upon a Declaration to be presented to their Highnesses; which he desired might be read; which being granted by their High-, nesses, the clerk of the house of lords, by. order of that house, Tread Lite Declaration at followeth: , . j . " Whereas die late king James 2, by the assist-, anceof divers evil CoMnsellors, Judges and.Mi-, nisters employed by him, did endeavour to sub-; vert and extirpate the. Protestant Religion, and. the Laws and Liberties of this kingdom: By assuming and exercising a Power of dispensing with, and suspending of Laws, and the execution. A 1091 PARL. HISTORY, IktkHReomum, 1688-9 — The Declaration of Rights.[110 of Laws, without consent of parliament: By committing and prosecuting divers worthy Prelates, for humbly petitioning to be excused from concurring to the said assumed Power: By issuing and causing to be executed, a Commission under the Great Seal, for erecting a Court called, The Court of Commissioners for Ecclesiastical CausesBy levying Money for and to the uso of the crown, by pretence of Prerogative, for other time, and in other man> ner, than the same was granted by parliament: By raising and keeping a Standing-Army within this kingdom in time of peace, without consent of parliament; and quartering Soldiers contrary to law:by causing divers good subjects, being Protestants, to be disarmed, at the same time when Papists were both armed and employed contrary to law:By violating the Freedom of Flection of Members to serve in Parliament:By prosecutions in the Court ofKing’s Bench for matters and caases cognizable only in parliament; and by divers other arbitrary and illegal courses. And whereas of lute years, partial, corrupt, and unqualified persons, have been returned and served- on Juries in Trials, and particularly divers Juries in Trials for High-Treason, which were not freeholders:and excessive Bail hath beon required of persons committed in criminal oases, to elude the benefit of the laws made for the Liberty of the Subjects: and, excessive Fines have been imposed; and illegal and cruel Punishments inflicted:and several Grants and Promises made of Fines and Forfeitures, before any Conviction or Judgment against the pen-sons upon whom th« same were to be levied:All which are utterly and directly contrary to the known laws and statutes, and freedom of this realm. And whereas the said late king James 2, having abdicated the Government, and the Throne being thereby vacant, his Highness the Prince of Orange (whom it hath pleased Almighty God to make the glorious instrument of delivering this kingdom from Popery aod Arbitrary Power) did (by. the Advice of the lords spiritual and temporal* and divers principal persons of the Commons) cause Letters to be written to the lords spiritual and temporal, being Protestants, ana other Letters to the several counties, cities, universities, boroughs, and cinque-ports, for the ebusing of such persons to represent them, as were of right to be sent to parliament, to meet and sit at Westminster, upon the 23d day of January in this Year 16 & 8, in order to such an Establishment, as that their Religion, Laws and Liberties, might not again be in danger of being subverted:Upon which Letters, Elections having been accordingly made; and thereupon the lords spiritual and temporal, and commons, pursuant to their several Letters and Elections, being now assembled in a full and free Representative of this nation, taking into their most serious consideration the best means for attaining the ends aforesaid, do in the first place (as their ancestors in like case bare usually done) for vindicating and asserting their ancient Rights and Liberties, declare; That the pretended Power of suspending of Laws, or the Execution of Laws, by rc-gai authority, without consent of parliament, is illegal:l bat the pretended Power of dispensing with Laws, or the Execu* tion of Laws, by regal authority, as it hath been assumed and exercised of late, is illegal:That the Commission for erecting the late Court of Commissioners for Ecclesiastical Causes, and all other Commission and Courts of the like nature, are illegal and -. perm* cious: That Levying of Money, for or to the use of the crown, by pretence of Prerogative, without Grant- of. Parliament, for longer timet or-in any other manner than the same is or shall be granted, is illegal: That it is the Right of the Subjects to.-petitieu the king, and all Commitments nnd PraseCutious fur such.petitioning, arc illegal :, Thh*eh* raising q keeping a Standing-Army within the .kingdom in. lima of peace, unless itibe «rti|kjCoasaBt. of parliament, is against lav*: Tty* the-subjects* which are Protestants, may..have. Arms for -their Defence, suitable to. thajr condition, and as allowed Uy law:That .Election* of* Members of Parliament ought to lie free > That the Free* •dom of Speech, and Debates, or proceedings -in -Parliament, ought not to be impeached or questioned in any court or place out of Parliament:That Excessive Bail ought not to be required, nor Excessive Fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual Punishments inflicted: That Jurors ought to be duly empaunelled and returned* and-Jurors, which pass upon men in Trials of High-Treason, ought to be Free-Holders: That all Grants and Promises of Fines, apd Forfeitures of particular persons, before Conviction-, are illegul and void:And fbat'for Redress of all Grievances, aod for the amending, strengthening and preserving of the Laws, Parliaments ought to be held frequently. And they do claim, demand and insist upon all and singular the premises, as their undoubted Rights and Liberties; and no Declarations, Judgments, Doings or Proceedings, to the prejudice of the people in any of the said premises, ought in any wise to be drawn hereafter into consequence or example. To which Demand of their Rights they are particularly encouraged by the Declaration of his highness the Prince of Orange, as being the only means for obtaining a full Redress and Remedy therein. — Having therefore an entire confidence, that his said highness the Prince of Orange will perfect the Deliverance so far advanced by him, and will still preserve them from the Violation of their Rights, which they have bera asserted, and from all other attempts upon their Religion, Rights and Liberties; the said lords spiritual and temporal, and commons, assembled at Westminster, do resolve, That William and Mary, Prince and Princess of Orange, be, and be declared King and Queen of England, France and Ireland, and the Dominions thereunto belonging, to hold the Crown and Royal Dignity of the said Kingdoms Ill] PARL. HIST. 1 William & Mary, lGSS-9* — William and Mary proclaimed. [1155 and Dominions, to them the said Prince nnd Princess during their lives, and the life of the Survivor of them; and that the sole and full exercise e Charge is be- 1 fore you, we shall know our measures, and till 1 it is clear to us that there is an use of Aid, it is not at all proper to consider it; therefore I i move to adjourn this to Wednesday. 1 Mr. Filkington. I move that, without de- lay, we may speedily fall on consideration of the king’s Speech, suitable to what the parlia- 1 ment is called together for. I Mr. Howe. I am well pleased we should . consider the relief of Ireland, but our affairs 1 at home fright us more than those abroad; the old Army is rather grown worse than mended. 137] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Ma*y, 1688-9. — on the Revenue. [133 I have a letter from my corporation (Cirencester) that the soldiers quartered there, will not let the people make bonfires at proclaiming the king, and they are not checked by their officers. If you gi\e pay to the officers, it is not convenient the soldiers should have pay to cut our throats. Let the Army be in the hands of those the king may trust, and then give Money. The letter acquaints me, with all the terror that can be expressed, that the soldiers are so insolent there, that, contrary to the interest of the king and queen, they proclaim king James. It is time to prevent these insolences. They drank king William’s and queen Mary’s Damnation. I believe the justices will not redress this. The Clergy are got into cabals, and they would not appear at the Proclamation. I believe the black coats, and the red coats, to be the grievances of the nation. I would willingly satisfy the poor people i represent. Sir Wm. Williams. If yon will consider the king’s Speech, you have fair room to debate on Aid, and, what belongs t& it, the quantity and consideration of the Revenue. War and peace we meddle not with; wc are only to supply it. How far the Revenue was settled on the late king, whether all or part vested in him by law, is fit to be considered. If there be a defect, it may be supplied by act of parliament; it is not fit to leave these things in the dark. When that is done you may consider of Aids, without going upon it hastily. But to say, that time will not stay for it. I am as much for haste as any body, but to justify myself to iny country, we cannot come at this matter without knowing whether you will continue the Revenue, or reverse all tlm last parliament did. I am for supporting the king, both at home and abroad, in what fairly may be done, and all these things come naturally out for the king and country. Resolved, " That the house will tomorrow morning resolve itself into a Grand Committee to consider the king’s Speech." Debate on taking away the old Oaths of Allegiance, 4-C.3 Leave was asked to bring in a Bill for taking away the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy, and to iusert others, &c. Mr. Sacheverell.I agree to the motion for this hill, to take away the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy, and in their stead to insert Oaths to this king and queen. And I would have the other Oaths in the Act for regulating Corporations taken away. You have the same power to alter those as you have these. Sir Rob. Howard. I would not charge this - bill with too many things; it will be long before you have the effect of it. The University, the Judges, and all other officers, require speedy dispatch, and in time that Act of Corporations may be taken away at one blow. That act bad as much intrinsic iniquity as any act whatsoever. I would have an act* to take •way any obligation to take the Sacrament up ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- , and half the Excise, given to the king, and limited to his life, in his corporeal capacity. What is meant by the kinu’s Life ? I think, not his reign, for it might have been as well expressed his reign, and as well now; but I think jt is intended, daring his natural life. If all the parliament were asked, when that grant passed, if they intended, that, as long as king James should live, it should return to the people, — they would say no. In those three sorts of Revenue it is expressed in the same words as this, for Life — ‘ His majesty for life.’ Is that for eight years determined ? No. Which implies that it will go to his successor, notwithstanding his demise or abdication. It is as reasonable to construe this so too, and expound one part by another. Had it nut been for this unfortunate change for James 2, (which I speak of with melancholy thoughts) you yourselves in effect have declared your mind as to this Revenue. When you desired the Prince of Orange to take upon him the administration of the government, you remember Uiat gentleman who said, ' we were no Parliament, ’ said we wanted only a Declaration of it, but had not formality/ When the Prince of Orange was happily arrived, and the lords and commons were summoned, they advised the prince to take the administration of affairs upon him, civil and military, and the public Revenue. He puLout a Declaration of the great disorder in collecting the Customs, and appointed Officers to receive and collect the same till the 22d of January, the time the Convention was to meet. Then you addressed him with Thanks for accepting the government, and desired him to continue the receiving the Revenue, See. Which could have no other interpretation than what Revenue was then in being; and it is strange it should not be continued, and nothing of consent in parliament. Till king, lords, and commons are actually joined to the king, it is no parliament. If so, you declare William has done what James 2 did, and what you thought a Grievance. No man but concludes the uncertainty of the Revenue to the king for another man’s life; and I need pot labour the matter. Sir T/io. Ciarges. I do not labour this, but I offer only, that, if there be any doubt, you will put it past doubt. Mr. Howe. One would have the Revenue during king James’s life, nnd another during king William’s; hut I would make no such leases, but from time to time by parliament. I hope Westminster-Hall shall never decide our purses, what we are to give. I think king James did abdicate the Revenue; nay, that he did forfeit it to somebody’s hands, and if we could give it, nemo dat quod non habet, ’ That the Crown i9 forfeited, and that the lords and commons offered it as a present to king William, and that they have a right to offer this Revenue as a present to him, is my opinion. Mr. Godolphin. I am willing to divide with both opinions. I believe, that parliament that gave this Revenue, intended not to give it to king William; for there were no thoughts then of king James’s abdication. If any doubt be in the house, it is in your power to put it out of doubt. Sir Jonathan Jennings. It is highly necessary to come to an end of this debate. There have teen many cases put, and I hope some come up to our case* We are told, ‘ some of 143] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mart, 1688-9. — on the Revenue. [144 the Revenue is for years, end some for life, and is in the present king as it was in king James/ If a patentee come and show you a rant for years, or life, before the Abdication, eclared even before the king left the kingdom, shall not that stand good to the patentee ? And then, where shall be the support of the Government ? I hope this will be suddenly answered, as a weak suggestion, and that you will go on. Sir Wm. Williamt. What is given of this nature, is the gift of the commons only, and the crown is to take it as it is given. The people are the donors, the king is the donee. All agree it is in the crown as a trust. Be it either way, I pro ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- se, " That the late king James was sailed with French troops from Brest, in order to laud in Ireland." Upon which it was resolved nem. con. " That the house will stand by, and assist the king with their Lives and Fortunes, in supporting his Alliances abroad, in reducing of Ireland, and in Defence of the Protestant Religion and Laws of the Kingdom." To which, the next day, they desired the concurrence of the Lords; and afterwards presented to his majesty in the form of an Address. State of the Revenue delivered in by Sir R. Howard.) March 1. Sir Hob. Howard reported that, according to the Order of this house, for bringing in the yearly value of the several branches of the Revenue, he had prepared a Computation thereof, as follows: A Computation of the several Branches of the Revenue. The Old Customs made in the s. d. year 1685 ---- 532, J43 9 6$ 1686 - 595, 688 7 10 * 1687 - 630, 700 15 0 * 1688 - 551, 497 18 11£ * " The most salutary change in the constitution of England at the Revolution, was effected by the regulations which the commons adopted with respect to the state and management of the Public Revenue. The connexion between the Public Revenue and the temper of government, must appear an important and instructive fact, to every one who carefully peruses the history of England. Though, at an early period, the king9 of England possessed a large independent Revenue, arising from patrimonial demesnes, taxations, and servitudes, yet these were far from being adequate to the extraordinary expences which occurred almost in evenr reign. The prodigality of a court, internal convulsions, and foreign war, had often compelled the prince to own his dependence, and solicit the bounty of his subjects. The solicitations of the prince reminded the people of their own importance. Their discontents, hitherto propagated in timid whispers, assumed the bold strain of Complaint and Remonstrance, and dared to approach the throne Of the suppliant monarch. Hence the Redress of Grievances came to be the stated price of liberality to the prince, and the people wisely calculated, that any inconvenience, arising from the present diminution of their property, was abundantly compensated, by their obtaining suci* laws and regulations as contributed to its future security and increase. — Recent experience recommended the utmost caution in the disposal of the Revenue. The depression of their own influence, the open violation of the laws, an accumulation of Grievances, against which they had not an opportunity to remonstrate while parliaments were laid aside, were mortifying evidences of the pernicious effects of their rash and irremeable generosity to the late prince. 4 We may date our misery to our bounty, ' said a member of the bouse of commons. 4 If king Charles had. not had that bounty from you, he never would have attempted the things he has done/ 41 remember, ’ said another, 4 when above 100,000l. was given for building of ships, and not one was built; and above 200,000l. granted to support the Triple League, was employed for breaking it/ — The reformation of the Revenue, fropi these considerations, appeared the capital point to which the attention of every true patriot ought to be directed; and which, if it was once compassed, would ensure the redress of every remaining Grievance, and the progressive improvement of the constitution. The most perfect political sagacity could not foresee what abuses or grievances might arise at any future period, but these could be only transient, it the Revenue was subjected* to such periodical expirations, as must necessarily render the prince dependent upon the gratitude and generosity of his people. As the foundation of this system, it became expedient that the Convention should explain the precise extent of the generosity they had already exercised towards the king, by putting the crown upon his head. Some of his majesty's friends were of opinion, that the Act of Settlement conveyed the full possession and uncontrolled disposal of the Revenue annexed to die crown, at the period of king James’s abdication; and it was natural to suppose, that the king himself listened with partiality to this opinion. When it was moved in the house of commons, that the Revenue had expired with the abdication of king James, great address was used to treat the question as a point of law, and to exclude those arguments of expediency, which could 151] PARL. HIST. 1 William & Mary, 1688-9. — Menage relative to Hearth Money. [152 The medium of the years is 577, 507 12 10£ The Duties, late in the Wood Farm, Coal Farm, and Salt Farm, and the Grant of the Freuch Tonnage, all newly expired - - - - The Four and half per Cent. Rent of the Logwood Farm, and Seizures of uncustomed and prohibited goods - The Excise made, in the vear 1685 - 1636 - 1687 - The Ilearth-Money, per ann. about - The Post-Office, per ann. about - The Small Branches, per ann. about - Total - 19, 500 0 0 12, 119 4 4 609, 126 17 21 567, 064 12 n 581, 664 4 623, 891 1 7i 636, 358 12 8} 610, 486 10 9 200,000 0 0 55,000 0 0 26, 350 15 *4 ., 500, 964 3 not fail to incline many of the members to approve of the motion, if it had been fairly open to discussion. These persons contended, that the Revenue which had been conferred upon the late king, became the inherent right of the crown, and attached to his successor, without any new interference, or confirmation by parliament. Othe ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- second not only our hearty Thanks, with the concurrence of the lords, but this being such a Revenue that we were in no hopes ever to have an end of it, I would also signify this extraordinary favour to the nation, and give the king an extraordinary compensation. Sir Tho.Lee. I move to have an addition to the Thanks, &c. ‘ That the king need not doubt of the affections of his people, to supply his occasions from time to time/ Mr. Hampden. First resolve on Thanks, nnd then you may add as has been moved; but not to join the fords in any thing relating to Aid the king by way of compensation. You may appoint a committee to draw up the Address. — A Committee was appointed accordingly. King's Message on committing several sons.] Mr. Hampden, one of his majesty's priry council, acquainted the house, that he bad a Message from his majesty, viz. " That his majesty hath had credible information, that there are several persons in and about this town, that.keep private Meetings and Cabals, to conspire against the Government, and for the assistance of the late king James: That his majesty has caused some of those persons to be already apprehended and secured, upon suspicion of High Treason; and that, he thinks, he may sec cause to do so by others, within a little time: hut that his majesty is between two great difficulties in this case; for that, if he should set those persons at liberty, that are apprehended, he would be wanting to his own safety, and the safety of his government and people: on the other •9* — Suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act. [154 hand, if he should detain them, he is unwilling to do any thing, but what shall be fully warranted by law, which he has so often declared he will preserve:and that therefore, if those persons should deliver themselves by the act of Habeas Corpus, there would be another difficulty. That his majesty is likewise unwilling, that excessive Bail should be taken in this case; his majesty remembering that to be one Article of the Grievances presented to him:that ordinary Bail will not be sufficient; for men who carry on such designs, in hopes of succeeding will not stick at forfeiting a small sum: and that, this falling out when the parliament is sitting, his majesty therefore thought fit to ask the Advice of this house therein; and intends to advise with the lords also." Debate thereon.]Mr. GaThis Mes- sage requires your Advice. I conceive, the king is under some pressure by the law; he does consider your safety, without violating the law; our business is to take off all hardships from the king, and to take the burden upon ourselves. It is not unknown, at least some are suspected to be tampering, and the king has found out some, and by this he may proceed to the remainder. In this, we must consult the learned in the law, to offer their opinions upon the present sense of things, and to beseech the king that no present proceedings may be against these men, but to take some little time to consider of it. Sir Thomas Littleton. It is of great consequence, what Advice the lords and commons shall give in this. In the mean lime, 1 desire the king may make no proceeding against these men; and I would add Thanks to the king fer asking your Advice; a thing not very usual in this place. Col. Birch. I second that motion. These arc new things; and the king having thus freely delivered us from that badge of slavery, the Chimney-money, (by which a Freeholder was not left in England) I second the motion, that such Thanks, and special Thanks, may be given him on this occasion. Mr. Boscawen. We are not only to consider these persons secured at present, hut such as may be upon the same occasion. It is not unknown, that many soldiers disbanded, or who have disbanded themselves, have arms in their hands. 1 have letters, that the soldiers in Cornwall are as bad as the rest; nnd when the magistrates rejoiced at the happy change, the soldiers killed a man. 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For misdemeanor, or breach of Lhe peace, a member is uot to be tried iu time of parliament. It was the case of lord Devonshire, and lord Lovelace. They pleaded they ought not to be tried in time of parliament though the misdemeanor was great, and done in the court. Sir Tho. Ciarges. The Charge of the five .Members was undoubtedly treason, but to be taken out of the house was a breach of privilege, and afterwards owned and disclaimed by king Cb. 1, to be a rash attempt. A man may make a motion for a Bill, in a thing unforeseen, and if it cannot be well done at the table, you may re-commit the Bill. I move therefore, that some few gentlemen may draw a Clouse. You run the utmost hazard by bringing in a rider, which cannot be mended at the table, and so the thing may be utterly lost. Sir Rob. Haeoard. A thing of so ordinary and plain a nature as this may be brought in parchment, and pray put an end to this thing * Sir Tho. Lee. If you think this Proviso necessary, three words do it, viz. Provided that it docs not extend to privilege of parliament/ and I hope you intend it to those members that do not attend in parliament, and are absent, [reflecting upon Seymour who bad leave to go into the country^] An Amendment was proposed, That that present Act shall continue till the 17th of April, and no longer, and agreed to. But a second in these words, " and is never to be " drawn into precedent or example hereafter/' was rejected. — A Clause was then offered by 159] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mart, 1688-9- — [l60 way of Addition to the said Bill, which provided, That the Expences and Fees of all persons so committed, should be defrayed by the public: which was likewise overruled. — After which a Proviso being first inserted, That the said Act should not any way affect the privileges of parliament, or persons of the Members, till the matter of suspicion be first communicated to the house; the Bill was passed. Report from the Committee of Grievances.' March 5. Sir Joseph Tredewham reporter from the Committee of Grievances, as follows: M Resolved, 1. That it is the opinion of this committee, That the Rights of the city of London, in the Election of Sheriffs in the year 1682, were invaded, and that such invasion was illegal, and a Grievance. 2. That the Judgment given upon the Quo Warranto, against the city of London, is a Grievance. 3. That the late Prosecutions of Quo Warrantors against the other cities, two universities, the towns-corporate, boroughs, cinque-ports, apd lantations, and the Judgments thereon, and the urrender of Charters, to the violation of their antient Rights, are illegal, and Grievances. 4. That the Commissions and Instructions for regulating Corporations, and putting Tests in order to electing Members for Parliament, are illegal, and Grievances. 5. That the promising of Votes to take off the penal Laws, and Tests, is a violation of the Rights of Parliament, and a Grievance. 6. That the Collecting the Customs, and part of the Excise, between the death of king Ch. 2, when these Duties were determined; and the parliament that was called afterwards, was illegal, and a Grievance. 7. That the levying of Money, otherwise than the law allows, and the disarming of Protestants, and the quartering of Soldiers, the pressing of Horses and Carriages, contrary to law, are Grievances. 8. That the house be moved to appoint a particular Committee, to examine into the matters aforesaid, and who were the authors and advisers thereof." — To all which the house agreed, and a Committee was appointed accordingly. Debate on Grievances.] Sir Rob. Howard. You have received a Report from the Committee in general: I would have some use of it, though it \s actum agere, -to do it over again. We have a great example of the king; instead of those indirect means used formerly to get money, he has given you money. He has been so far from breaking your laws, that he has -not so much as bowed them. I will wind all up in one motion, to incite every member to close with it. I find all the Answers from Burton and Graham, relating to the blood spilt by their Prosecution, that of the sheriffs of liondon, &c. that they were but ministerial in themthey ought to be made an example, if they have a mind to gratify themselves by that, to make them originals, and a Bill of Attainder to be brought against them. Let us free ourselves from the guilt of that blood spilt, to all posterity, and not leave ill ministers, by these examples, to do the same again. It is impossible we should live, and not have blood upon us, if we pass this by unpunished. The next is the murdering our Civil Rights in Corporations, in taking away Charters, &c. If we do not punish these things, corruption still remains encouraged, and we shall cause this to descend to posterity. If the fault be in the Jury, and they will not tell us who gave the counsels, they must take it upon themselves. To proceed upon some actings in this, I would have a Select Committee. Let it go to what fountain it will, were my own futlier concerned. Not but that 1 would have a Committee of Grievances to sit, , but you may have a Select Committee to sit upon Grievances, and you will find the parties and originals, or these men must make themselves murderers of these men, and murderers of our Liberties. No calamity so great (says lord Coke) as what is done under colour of justice. ’ Mr. Howe. These men are known to the boys in the streets. The delay of this may put the people upon great discontents. Suppose a tradesman dies, as a shoemaker, and another comes to take the house, and finds awls and lasts in the house, shall I believe a painter lived in the house? 1 would have these awls and lasts thrown out of the house. I would have a Select Committee to enquire into this, and then I hope you will have a good account of this, and let the tools be thrown away. Sir Tho. Clarges. There are a great many Grievances more than this, as the illegal Ecclesiastical Commission; dispensing with the Oaths, &c. to the overthrow of all our laws; money levied by a charter upon Hackney Coaches; if that be so, you will be tript outof all your rights quickly. I wish the Committee, after the discovery of all these Grievances, would have named the persons who had occasioned them. Had they brought you in the persons who had offended, you might then have done something. I could wish these Grievance* might be re-committed, and so consider farther of them, and find out the persons who occasioned them. Sir Rob. Clayton. I would not hunt too many hares at once. If you take too many things, you will finish none. - All we could get from Burton and Graham was, ‘ that they had their direction from the Attorney General, ' and there is the end of the thread. Pray enquire of the Attorney General. Sir Edw. Seymour, I am of opinion with Clarges, that all tho Grievances of this nation are not in the Committee’s Report. We have great obligation to the king, who has relieved us from the oppression of Chimney Money: but if I be not misinformed, wc owe that to the lower end, and not to the higher end, of the council-table. If these men act again, who have countenanced these things, no body will be afraid to offend. When you have voted the Grievances, you may, by a private committee, find out the persons. Punishment of vice is as necessary as reward to virtue. Mr. Love. I am of opinion, that finding l6l] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mary, 1688-9 out mischiefs will do no Rood, without remedying them. The two first Heads of the Dill relate to the City of London, if you refer this till you have done all, you will never be at an end; it will find you work for a great while. Sir Tho. Lee. No ordinary treason is more dangerous than the practice of these men. 1 would have the Committee meet and examine their several practices, and then you may go to the lords for committing them, as a court, by the complaint of the commons; else that court cannot commit originally. A learned lawyer (Maynard) has declared, that you are I to proceed so in cotnmon-law treasons. . .Major Wildmun. I would consider whether this he practicable immediately. Possibly they may demand Habeas Corpus before night. There are 30 in number committed, and most without any law, and committed by no authority in law. It is notorious that they have broken privileges of parliament, by taking away Corporation Charters, by engaging Subscriptions to elect such as the king shall nominate, to overthrow the very foundations of parliaments. The way proposed by Lee I think the best. But whether you will commit them for breach of privilege of parliament. You are told of a great sum of money that has gone through their hands. I would have them in your power, for they have been guilty of the greatest subversion of the laws that ever was. Sir Tho. Clarges. 1 will agree that Burton and Graham are gudty of great offences, but whether you will determine this hrcach of privilege without hearing them ? There is nothing expressed in the warrant of commitment of the cause of their commitment, and I think there is no danger from the lords commissioners, who have three days to consider of the Habeas Corpus, and by that time possibly you may have special matter against t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- n may be able, when the alder are in their graves, to know the Proceedings of Parliament; but they will see no reasons for them. Bilb are not written in paragraphs, but all of a piece, and there is a reason in it; not that the clerks may read blank, but the reason is, that there may be no forging in it. If you print your Votes, consider what k is. There may be an inconvenience of intercourse; the lords against our privilege, and we against the judicature of the lords. The lords may tell you, you have voted something derogatory to the crown, and send you word, What have you to do with k? If you print it, will it not be a strange Message, that the crown should send you word of what you do ? You must send the crown word, you intended not any thing against the crowu; and of what strange consequences may this be ? I have no end in this but regularity and deceucy. I have mgreat reverence as any man has for this bouse; and when you reverence yourselves, the world will have it for you. I hope you will pot print yogr Votes. ' , 1688for printing the Votet. [I Sir Rd. Temple. This matter is of more moment than at first it seemed to be; little benefit, and great inconvenience, may come from it. I dislike all innovations. In a great assembly, what is doue must he with great reason: there ought to be no innovation. All that can be proved for printing it, is to rectify Coffee-houses, and for beyond sea. 1 saw, at Oxford Parliament, another thing gained, upon commissions that gentlemen had from their country about the Exclusion Bill. 1 hope we shall not imitate Holland, to go to our principals for Instructions; it may be of dangerous consequence to alter the government. 1 hear of balioting-hoxes; they have had diem in Scotland, but they are weary of them, as precluding all debates. This strikes at the essential privilege of parliament, when you have advanced in a Bill, and then reject it, and the people know not the reason of that. 1 would have sending the Votes to Coffee-houses redressed; but it is far less inconvenience than that your Resolutions should go about from yourselves with approbation: I never heard any good reason for it, nor any good success of it when done. It will prove a levity without doors, to alter your Vote already made, and your Reasons not known. Sir Tho. Littleton. I am for printing your Votes, and I see no inconvenience by it; it will he great if you do not print them. England tins from the clerks all you do, but not the truth of what you do; and it is fit England should know both. In former parliaments, when they were invading and undermining the people, they were ashamed of it; hut we are now under a king that preserves our liberties, and there is no reason hut the people should know it. It is fit the people should know the good things transacted betwixt the king and this house. Such a union may have great influence both abroad and at home. I am for priming them. Mr. Arnold.I would not have L’Estrango and Nevil Payne write false news beyond sea. I desire the truth may be known, and am for priuting them. Sir Rob. Howard. Metlnnks the debate is, Whether you will publish your Votes tacitly, or expressly ? If they arc published without the stamp of authority, it seems you will rather permit it by an unjustifiable way, than a justifiable. If you will keep your Books secret, perhaps I shall he for that; but if you suffer them to be published by other means, then is not printing the honester and juster way ? If the question he, Whether they be kept secret* or not, I have my opinion:I know not tha methods of Holland, but now you have more justification for printing than you had formerly* when they were belter not published at all, hut kept secret. But this parliament has bee* chosen in better methods. Possibly some Vote* are fit that the world should presently see (but whether they should be kept secret or not, I shall reserve my thoughts; but whether yoil will print them is much the more justifiable way. 167] PARL. HISTO ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- d that question you have had ready for you — a safe, wise, and a sudden Resolve 1 The king did distinguish betwixt the Collection-of the Revenue and the Settlement. I would declare it for three months. Sir Rd. Temple. I would have all arguments forborne of distrust betwixt the king and us. 1 am very far from desiring the short Bill to be brought in for delay of Settlement of the Revenue. Cao it be imagined that bills should be brought in for all the Revenue, on a sudden ? I would make no distinction in the Bill of what is continued and what not. Not by way of grant. Sir Rod. Howard. I speak not for the poor or the rich, the weak or the strong, of the bouse. I have an office, but in some offices I would not have been employed — [reflecting upon Williams]. By the way, I would show by a motion to continue the Grand Committee, and to proceed on the Settlement of the Revenue; though for the present we proceed only on the temporary Bill. Mr. Boscawen. According to course of parliament, if you grant the king an Aid, and be accept it, the Answer is, ‘ Grandmercie ses boos sujets, ’ &c. If this he no Grant, what Answer shall the king give to this Bill ? If as a Grant of Subsidy, the king thanks for it. There is not so much danger in the fault of collecting it as going r his way. I am of opinion rather of a Vote of the lords and commons to strengthen it for the present. I shall agree to it, hut it is an ill expedient, and you will be in this box, and not know bow to get out of it. Mr. Eyre. If this be determined, you arrive not at your end. I see, in this matter of the Revenue, we go on very heavily. In a matter of this moment to support the honour of the king, whatever you do in this Bill, if it goes ns is proposed, you do less than nothing, to the joy nf your enemies, and sorrow of your friends. Therefore I propose a Vote, that you grant the king a Revenue for Life of 1, 200,000l. per aun. made up of such items as in the particular, &c. A great Revenue has been a great Grievance, but it was by no other method than we had put in their hands. Such a Revenue will be an evidence of aifection to the king, and will support the necessary charge of the kingdom. And while this is the standard, it can have no oppression; and less than this proposed cannot be thought of. It will be in a Protestant hand, and you cannot doubt but the sparqable part will be treasured up for tho good of the subject. Sir Tho. Littleton. It has been well moved a great while since, and I wonder at no conclusion upon it. To settle it for three months is the most acceptable and expeditious thing you can do. The king does not expect that you should settle the Revenue immediately, without great caution and consideration. There* fore that the king may be iu no inconvenience, settle it for three months; which will he so far from a distrust, that it is kindly and gratefully done by the people, and the king will take it well from you. Mr. Finch. You give the king double the Revenue, if you do it for three months. You give him the Revenue, and the hearts of the people. This you will do in two days, and perhaps the other way not in two months. Mr. Pollexfen. If you say, I will not give the king this Revenue, but those that pay it not shall be under all the penalties as if it was given, ' this will raise all the jealousy and shame upon us imaginable abroad. Sir Henry Capel. It is not the intention of any man here to give the king the Revenue for three months, and Pollexfen mistakes the thing. We are beholden to those gentlemen who put us in this method at first. The Book of Rates, the Act for Excise, we do not yet know; there are complaints of the ill administration of them; now is the time to correct it. I speak it to the honour of the gentleman that made the motion, that you will have uo delay in the thing. Then you will sec the whole establishment and the expences, and what to give for an established Revenue. It is not a time to name the Revenue now; it is the doubt of some ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ur duty to inform the king what we hear from all parts. I must inform the house that 1 have letters every day of the ill condition of the soldiers in their quarters; at Newbury, Abingdon, and other places, they would uot suffer the cryer, or bell-man, to say, God bless king William and queen Mary !’ There are papers cast about, to fright people with the change of the government, with millions; hundreds of these arc dispersed; I have received some. The disease is so genera ), I know not what to propose; but it is proper for this bouse to give the king the best informations we can of the officers who connive at these things. I offer to the house to address the king to take a special care of the places where the late king’s soldiers are quartered, and especially to have an eye that the officers rent disorders, and to be fully assured of officers, both civil and military. Mr. Hampden. I offer it, notwithstanding the opinion of the learned gent., as I am not of opinion, that it is a vain thing to declare this Desertion of the Soldiers to be treason.’ This at the first was taken only for soldiers mutinying, but what is there in declaring this to be within the 25th of Edw. 3 ? Soldiers deserting and corresponding with the king’s enemies to be treason ? You must speak out and *say, this is high treason, and this will put an end to it, and men will be afraid to countenance it; and go to the lords, that, by your joint advice, the king may issue out his Proclamation to inforce the law, as your advice, as the only proper remedy, and that you will give the king your assistance in it. Sir John Lowther. At the same time when you advise the Proclamation, consider the occasion, and then the proper remedies, that the cause may be taken away. In former reigns, criminals were so much the more enemies by bow much they were in desperation, and therefore I would put men out of doubt, and make as many friends as we can. Therefore I move, that whether, as you made a strict enquiry into Grievances, there may not as well be an Act of Oblivion at the same time, and, at the same time, that you address the king to proclaim his pardon to such as shall surrender themselves, and return to their obedience and duty. Sir Rob. Howard. The lords and commons addressing the king makes the Proclamation have greater force, and next to an act of parliament; but as for the Oblivion just moved to be put in, it looks as if you were afraid, and is a kind of seconding these men in their rebellion, and all this will look little less than an act of parliament. — An Address was voted accordingly. Resolved, nem. con. " That an Address be presented to his majesty to desire him to take effectual care to suppress the Soldiers that are now in Rebellion, and to issue his Proclamation to declare them, and all that adhere to them, to be Rebels and Traitors." And the same day, the said Address being drawn and approved of, was, with the concurrence of the lords, presented to the king at Hampton-court; who was pleased to return the following Answer: " That he should be very ready and careful to give such orders, as the lords and commons should desire; and that he had already appointed three regiments of dragoons, with orders to stop them and bring them to their duty; and, if they will not submit, to fall upon them: and that be would send immediate directions to his Attorney-General, to prepare a Proclamation, according to the desire of both houses, in the Address." Debate on the Bill for disarming .] March 16. Serj. Maynard. We are so mealy-mouthed and soft-handed to the Papists, that it occasions their insolence. I think it is fitting that all Papists should resort to their own dwellings, and not depart without licences from the next justices; and another thing, that all those of that religion bring all their fire-arms 183] in, unless for the necessary defence of iheir bouses, lo officers appointed. It is not our Votes, nor the Ordinauces of lords and commons, nor our beingf hot here, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- we, in prejudice of the commons, give this challenge away ? It is almost impossible to have just trial tins way* The peers are most of a Wood, (the- aocient peers) and so a commoner can have no fair trial against a peer, and they have already more privileges than the commons. Yon, by this, advance the peerage against the commess right of the commons, and make it neither ini the power of the king, nor the commons *, to bring a peer to justice. The commons arc straitened, and the crown is straitened. Hove many men have been undone by Scandalnm magnatum ! Commoners have had 20, P00C verdict against them; and a peer thinks himself dishonoured unless the jury gives what be demands. I would rattier provide against these things, if the lords will set n limitation to Scandalnm magnatum; (it may lie 20 years, and they may bring it about) if the lords will agree that no words shad be scandal, bni where an action* may he brought by a com* raoner against a commoner — Suppose a commoner say, He cares for a peer no more than a dug/ though a peer call me rogue and rascal — Let the lords frame a fair Bill, and we will pass it. If they will have ceremony, we will compliment them, and stand bare in their lobby, and the Painted Chamber, at conference; but matter of right we shall dispute. * " In 1685, * for conspiring with other false traitors (Monmouth, &c.) to raise a Rebellion, depom anti put to death the late king, Ac/ of which being foued guilty by the prostitute juries of these times, he received sentence of death; but by applying properly made a shift to obtain a pardon; winch sir John Reresby celebrates as a signal act of grace, because that lord bad formerly been condemned fist breaking a hoy’s neck m his cape, and had been admitted to merey." Ralph. t Lord Deiamere’s charge wm tor being, aw accomplice with Monmouth, in his late Rebeliioowr j 187] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mary, 1688-9- — — Estimate for the . [206 two deer that were always fighting, and a rascal deer behind a tree came upon them when weary, and beat them both. Seeing we all agree that the king shall h ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Praemunire (legal term) MATCH TEXT: 'praemunire' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ed the conspiracy of Mary queen of Scots against queen Eliz. We never should extend that power, when we consider, that men have speculations they cannot be rid of. This proceeds from such a supposition that may be speedily punished in attempting to overthrow the government. Now, whether you will not leave this to the king ? And there is no reason to suspect the crown in its own safety. The eyes of all England are upon this matter. The lords are of opinion they have made so much a better security to the government than what you have made, that they hope you will agree with them. Sir Henry Goodrick. Since this makes a distinction to a few, it will be so much discouragement to this law that it may weaken it. There are a s >rtof men that either will not pray for king Wm. and queen Mary, or talk so in common conversation, that their parishes ap- Krehend something ill for the government lies id in it. Discrimination in our Church is highly pernicious. Now when we comprehend Dissenters, and we leave so great latitude to the great lights, the bishops, it may prove fatal. It is said, the Clergy acknowledge the king and queen, &c. in the Common Prayer.’ I answer, if it was not already scrupled — so few Dissenters from us — Therefore I hope you will not encourage them against the lords and commons of England. In queen Eliz.’s time, the nation was half Protestants and half Papists, and a prospect of a Popish Successor in Mary queen of Scots. This will do no good unless to contribute to farther difference. Your lordships may well accept this difference the commons .have made — Papists, for the most part, will take the Oaths of Allegiance, but not of Supremacy. Shall it be said that any of onr great bishops make use of arguments of the Papists? In ancient times, there were such accounts of the bishops foreign allegiance, that there is a vast apprehension of such a precedent tye to king James, as the court of Rome had formerly on the bishops. I hope you will stake this refosal praemunire in the Clergy. Sir Tho. Lee. If yoar lordships bad so mended the Bill as to the case of Offices, as you have done in that of the Clergy, the commons might havd less objected. The great thing insisted on is queen Eliz.’s time — The Clergy upon refusal of the Oaths, &c. were deprived immediately. The commons have rather followed the precedent of king James’s time. It may fall out, that persons may be surprized, and it will be a great hardship tint the Oath should be tendered to some, and not all, and no suspicion on particular persons. Were more noble prelates in here with your lordships, we should have less suspicion of any apprehending allegiance to king James. The height of danger to the kingdom is in the highest station to the kingdom. Earl of Pembroke.*The sense of the giver is no more than obedience according to law. Why may it not be expected, obedience according to law ?’ And they take it in the giver's sense, and leave it to the king. Mr. Somers. Since all loyalty ought to be without distinction, if you wilt make that law effectual, those who execute it themselves are the most effectual; they are obliged in interest to take it, or forfeit all. But if left to others to tender it, many wavs may be found to evade it, instead of having this law take its full effect. It concerns the government to know who the persons are, that doubt the owning the government. This Oath was so framed by your lordships with that great moderation, wherein there is nothing but plain promise of obedience. Bishop of London, (Dr. Compton.f) The * Soon after sent, Ambassador to the Statcs-General, colonel of marines, first lord of the admiralty, and in 1(391 appointed lord privy seal: he was first plenipotentiary at the Treaty of Ryswick in 1697, in 1700, lord president of the council, and in 1701, lord high nd-miral. Bv queen Aqne he was continued at the head of the privy council, and was appointed lord lieutenant of Ireland in 1707, and lord high admiral in 1708, which he resi ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- to be a trustee for Mrs. Gwyn) for 21 years, from Michaelmas 1683, at 5/. per ann. rent. Writs. The profits arising by sealing writs, &c. with the seals of the courts of KingVBench and common Pleas, is granted to George duke of Northumberland, and the heirs male of his body; with like remainders in tale to his two brothers. Lottery. There is a grant made by the late James to one Ashenhurst, and others for the use of the royal oak-lottery, at 2200/. per ann.; but it not being entered before me, I cannot inform When k expires. A Particular of old Debts, standing out before the year 1671, upon Registers kept on several Branches of the Revenue. On London Excise - 13, 915 19 On Country Excise - 5, 234 10 On Additional Excise - 2, 100 0 On the Law-Bill - 5, 385 13 On Customs ... 74, 800 9 On Wines and Vinegar ' - 44, 850 6 On Fee-Farm Rents - 62, 042 5 On hearth-Duty - 110, 500 2 Revenue of North and South Wales .... 4, 426 8 Recovery of Tin at Ostend - 750 0 Four and a half per Cent. - 5, 472 8 Salt imported ... 500 0 Since 1671, Second Disbanding Act, for Principal, besides Interest due - 54, 390 4 Hereditary Excise, To the Crc-ditors of the Goldsmiths, a yearly Charge of 79, 566/. 14s 2 d.; upon which there is due for Six Years, at Lady-day last ... 477, 400 5 4 7 0 7 0 * n H 1 0 0 0 4 0 861, 768 12 6£ Charges upon the Revenue. - Mr. Tho. Fox, for the Security of his Place of Receiver of the Customs, by Tally - 20,000 0 0 Mr. Duncombe, for the same, on the Excise - 20,000 O O The City, on the Excise - 185, 525 O 0 To Mr. Hornby, on the Excise 5,000 0 0 To Mr. Hall, on the llearth- Money ... - 47,000 0 0 £. 277, 525 0 0 There is an Arrear to the Army and Navy - 300,000 0 0 There is also a yearly Charge of 79, 566/. 14s 2d. for perpetual Interest to the Goldsmiths, and their Assigns; which is now in Arrear at Lady-day next, for 6 Yenrs 477, 400 5 0 Report concerning Sir T. .] Sir Joseph Tredenham reported from tho Committee of Grievances, the matter to them referred, concerning sir Thomas Armstrong, viz. " That having summoned sir Sam. Astrey, the clerk of the crown, with the record of the outlawry of Hill. 35 and 36 Car. 2, it appeared that the Quint. Ex. was Luna prox. post Jest, sanct. Andrea Apost. 35 Car. 2 That the Award of prosecution, was Die Sab. prox. post quindec. let. Trinitat. 36. upon a Nihil dicity which was but six months after the said outlawry. That sir S. Astrey being examined, declared he was present at the Arraignment of sir T. Armstrong, who, being asked why execution should not be awarded against him, said, that by the statute of 5 & 6 Edw. 6. c. 11. it is enacted, (That, if the party outlawed shall, within one year next after the outlawry pronounced, yield himself to the chief-justice of England, for the time being, and offer to traverse the Indictment or Appeal, that then h« should be received to the said traverse. That he was answered by the lord chief justice Jeffreys, that he could pretend to no benefit, since he did not render himself to the lord chief-justice, as that statute requires; and that the court proceeded thereupon, to award Judgment against him as a Traitor, and believes be was executed accordingly. That Mrs. Matthews, (daughter of the said sir Thomas) being likewise examined, said she was in the court of KingVBench, when her father was arraigned. That he demanded to have the statute of 5 and 6 of Ed. 6. read, and it was refused. That be, likewise, demanded council and a trial, but it was denied; and he urging that Holloway, who was in the said circumstance, bad his trial, the Chief Justice said they had enough against Holloway. To which sir Thomas replied, that then they had not against him. And added, His blood be upon him/ meaning the Lord. Chief Justice, who said, ‘ Let it ! I am clamour-proof!* That she added, her father had council in Newgate, and advice from an unknown hand: that he was very much loaded with irons and very ill used, that her sister wa ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- when the court was carrying on their great designs of Popery and arbitrary government, gentlemen that opposed it were called Commonwealth’s-men; and we are told of * the Rebellion — and 1G41 — and cutting off the king's head, ’ and all this for opposing the court's designs, when they were about to destroy our religion and liberties. It can never be a Commonwealth. When the Succession in Hen. 8.’s time was turned this way and that way, it was put into the king’s power to settle the Succession by his will: and where were the thoughts of a Commonwealth then ? The first part of the Proviso is a reflection upon you for omitting it before; and the second there is no need of, or whether the prince of Wales comes in by it. Either a foreign minister is in it, or a stratagem from France; and I would throw it out. Sir Christ. Musgrave. I know not why we are told of* France, and foreign ministers.’ If we have not liberty to speak, let us go home. I know not what thoughts other gentlemen have of the prince of Wales; I have none: but I know we have had a Commonwealth, and a Rebellion in 1641 also. If the thing be capable of amendment, it ought to be retained; and it is the right of every gentleman to bring in a Proviso. Mr. Godolphin. I defy any man to prove any such thing as corresponding with a fo- reign minister/ or that I manage a stratagem from France.' Turn me out of the house, if that be proved. This Proviso was suggested to me by no man. Sir H. Goodrick. When I hear this fatal rencounter we have had with France, and then these reflections here, and that we may go into the country, — these expressions are made here, with a supposition that we have no liberty of speech; but this, said at this time, when the French are upon us, and who have had too much influence here; and we are told of 1641! After the admonition of the Speaker, nothing but the Vacancy of the Throne, and the not vacancy, occasions this business; and are we returning to vacant/ or not vacant/ upon our Petition of Right? And whoever speaks against it, doubts the government. The common law leaves all to the right of the succession, and there let us leave it. Lord Falkland. I disapprove of the Proviso, as it is brought in; but it may be mended, so as to justify your proceedings abroad. It is said abroad, you have settled the Government upon the king and queen; it is true, they have no children, and the princess of Denmark none that have lived, though married a great while; so there arc but three lives for it; if it should happen that these should die without issue, where is the hurt of this proviso ? fortify the proviso against the tale of the prince oif Wales. You have Protestant princes abroad, and the more you settle this, the more you protect them. Mr .'Hordes.Now I understand, by mend- ing the proviso with the word hereafter/ I am more against it than I was at first. There bas been talk of government foanded in grace/ bot much more mischief if founded in right. This questions the whole government. There is not one word in the Act that can prejudice any foreign successor; but this, by a side-wind to come in, makes me suspect it. When the City-Charter was questioned, the king's counsel against it said, It was a Commonwealth in a Commonwealth therefore I am not for this proviso thus introduced, Mr. Somers. I think there is no hurt in wholly leaving out this proviso. In the case of Hen. 4th, it was a solemn Judgment, that the throne was vacant, and then it was settled on the king's sons, and no farther by name; for it would come into its own channel by sue* cession of descent. In the Life of Henry 7lh, lord Bacon reckons it as one of the wisest actions of his reign, that he limited the crown no farther, but left it to descend. Let us tread . in the steps of our ancestors; you have declared the Vacancy of the Throne; but to do this now, would bring a suspicion upon what you have done: make your succession so founded on grace, that none but protestants succeed* This strikes at th ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ty Heads, you will involve more than you intend. 1 move, " That the late (hancellor and his heirs may be excepted out of the Indemnity, in order to Attainder." Major M ildmun.When I consider that the hou-e spent four horns on crimes amf persons, it you keep your own Order, you are not to meddle with persons now. Mr. Hnrb>rd. 1 would except out of the pardon all who gave opinions with my lord chancellor, for the Dispensing Power. Mr. Gnrrozi ay.I think the Head of the Dispensing Power is what you can best make out. That is a breach of their oath, and a great one, mid of tliut you have the judgment of the lords and commons, for breaking their oaths. In this 1 care not how narrow; hut as tor mulcts upon them, 1 would not destroy families, hut leave them a livelihood, and no more. For other offences, something may be said in law, hut not for this. Sir Joseph Tredenham.I cannot he per- suadtd that giving the king advice in the Dispensing Power he made capital. If we make the words general in the question, that of so many persons equally guilty, some few should be given up for a sacrifice — 1 believe it first an invasion of our rights, hut the exercise of it long became a common error, and, I think, if they are not guilty of some other offences, this is not sufficient. I move that the Question may he a little more distinct, and say, ‘ as the DispeosiiiK Power was of late executed. ’ bir Htnry Cupel. I never thought to have heard an argument within these walls lor an universal Dispensing Power. We aie slaves if it he so, and no freer than in Turkey. We know the king has prerogatives, but to say, fie has a Dispensing Power, ’ is to say, ‘ there is no law.’ lie says, 4 this Dispensing Power grew in upon us by time; ’ and is it therefore good because practised ? The foundation of all our misfortunes is. That the Judges gave their Opinion lor the Dispensing Power, and I would have them excepted in the Act of Indemnity. Mr. Hurries. The Dispensing Power was the last grievance, and a bloody sacrifice to he asked nothing but the law, ’ Jeffreys, in his brutal way, said, ‘ lie should have it to the full; ’ and so ordered his execution within six days. And the law was exec uted on him with the utmost rigour, " Burnet, PARL. HISTORY, 1 WrLUAM & Mary, I6S9.- for a Bill " Agreed to by 263] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & the prince’s pleasure, to the subversion of the whole government. The king might dispense with some obsolete law9, but no statute since 250 year3 ago was dispensed with till these three or four years. If this must pass for doctrine, we may go home, and the king may raise what money he pleases, and he may dispense with the Statute ‘ de Tnllagio non conccdendo, ’ nnd raise what taxes he pleases. King Ch. 1. would have been at it, and had Judges lor his turn, who would have exercised this dispensing power as well as the Ship-money. Some people king James put out of oHice, though qualified, and some were put in unqualified. They began with Dispensing with the Act for Hackney-coaches, nnd by degrees would have done so with all the laws. I am for declaring this very illegal, though not all to be punished alike; for some did it out of weakness, others out of fear, find not out of the dictates of their judgment. As for the King’s Counsel, if the Attorneys and Solicitors, with tufted gowns, impose upon illiterate men, pardon the illiterate, and punish the learned counsel. Just so do it; if otherwise, you throw up all your laws and statutes. Sir R. Howard.I would serve you with a question, if I could. The gentleman who spoke over the way, ever gives instruction; I am 9ure he docs to me. This is the doctrine ' because a Non obstante may be given man by man particularly, it should he used judicially. Forbidding protestant books to be printed, and dispensing with popish books, asserted and allowed. Here is a general execution armed against us; first by books, and then by public power. The Papists are armed against us. When the Goths and V ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Praemunire (legal term) MATCH TEXT: 'praemunire' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s for defending it. Yet a ship sailing up with wind and tide broke through:and so (he town was relieved, and the siege raised with great confusion/' Burnet, * 73] PARL. HISTORY, 1 Wilmam & Mart, 1589 — Corpus right done me. I except against the words of that gentleman, which were, ‘ Those that were of opinion that king James had not abdicated the crown, nor that the Throne was vacant, were the ministers. ’ Mr. Comptroller Wharton. I did not say »ny thing of ‘ Debates of the house.’ 1 said, « Those that held that opinion were the occasion. ’ Sir Wm. Williams.The question is plain, * Whether this law shall be suspended for any farther time; which is so much for the safety and preservation of the kingdom. Liberty of persons is the question. Whoever is for the safety of the kingdom must be for dispensing. We were under danger when we made that Act first; now we are in a more imminent danger, in worse condition, and Scotland in no good condition; and I apprehend it more dangerous, when the town is naked, and the king naked, and the parliament gone. 1 think this Bill may he qualified with, ‘not to be committed without Oath. ’ Leare was gii’en to bring in a " Bill to impower his majesty to apprehend and detain auch persons as he shall find just cause to suspect are conspiring against the Government." May 24. The said Bill was read the second time. Sir Tho.Clarges. I cannot but be troubled at this Bill, and the more for the reasons given for it. I am not convinced of the necessity of the bill, and more concerned for the king, who has delivered us from arbitrary practices, to have this king informed, that the laws of the nation arc such, that the kingdom cannot be kept in peace w ith them. It is so much against the privilege of the subject that any mau may be imprisoned, upon a bare suggestion, and not have benefit of Habeas Corpus. Upon commitment for treason, or felony, a man cannot be bailed. If he refuse the Oaths, he may be imprisoned, and the next refusal is praemunire. I would not have any man committed, by this Bill, but by oath, and that the accuser do give security to prosecute. Sir Tho. Littleton. I think there is a necessity of such a Bill; the peace of the government depends upon it, now there are a sort of people disturbing the government. 1 observe bow tender the government is now; in the last reign, every thing was conspiring the death of the king, ’ and that was the tenour of all their warrants; and since the king has done so modestly in the use of the two last Bills, not as formerly. Mr. Garroway. I would to God, the king had not been put to it to get this Bill. But abroad in the world there are strange discontents, and such language as is not fit to repeat. The French king and king James are against us, we are now near a recess, and when we are gone, I know not what combustion may he; and for us to do nothing, and not trust the king ! — I know not what combustion we may fall into; we are not.now barely in fears and jealousies. I hope the same hand that pro-Vol. V. tected you will do it still, and I move you to commit the Bill. Mr. Boscawen. I am against Sacheverell's Proviso; this Bill is for the security of the nation. It has been opened, but you are at liberty to receive it or not. I have lately received a letter:I will open it, and then you may judge whether you will read it, or not. It is not from a fiction of my own, but it is really truth. A member delivered me a letter from lord Shrewsbury’s correspondence, that persons about the court corresponded with one in the Post-Office, and he with king James/ You must know that what is done in council the clerks know. If you receive this Proviso, cast out the Bill. That there are such as wish not well to the government is certain. By the Proviso, you must enter every Information, or nothing at alt. A gentleman comes, and upon his reputation gives in information — Taken down to order by Mr. William Forster abruptly. Mr. Garroway. You have spent a great Heal of ti ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Liberty of Parliament ['liberty of parliament'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tacked for it. I think this bill to be against the king’s sen ice; nothing is more for the disservice of the king, than to create prejudice against him, and nothing more than to think lie will govern by arbitrary power in the members of the privy council, as in France. The king makes an Edict, Car tel est notre plaisir.’ This may subject your Bill to some questions hercnftcr. Some time ago we did arraign the government of arbitrary power, exercised against law. We go about now to establish arbitrary government by law. Sir Christ. Musgrave. The occasion of bringing in this bill was because it was thought necessai^ for the preservation of the government. At present, there are divers disorders, but when I consider we have got a good Fleet, and have had experience of our officers, it may secure us froni foreigners, though we do not hear much of assistance from others; (hut that by the by). What then must we be afraid of? It must be home Papists, not yet clapped up. It must be from some people within us. If more considerable than tluy are, we have nn Army of 40,000 men to protect us, which may prove as fatal to those that shall attempt against the government as formerly. If we have such an army, there can he no need of such a Bill, to commit men to prison without oath, made upon suspicion only, which may be 275] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mary, 1689. — Habeas Corpus Bill. [276 grounded upon malice, and l»e so construed as to bring misfortune to deprive gentlemen of < tlteir liberty, and, to their great charge, to be committed to the Tower; so I hope you will ' not part with such a law so useful to us, and so j valued. It was one of the conditions of the neighbouring kingdom (Scotland) with the 1 king, to have an .Act of Habeas Corpus, as in England. They are in n state of war, and are not desirous of such a Bill as this. Mr. Boscaiven. If this bill deserves such a character as has been given of it, throw it out. 1 think it does not, and there is uo invasion of •the liberty of the subject; it is far from reducing us to the government of France; that king does all for his w ill and pleasure, we do all by the legislative power lor preservation of ourselves. There is a sort of men that think of returning to king James, drinking his health, renouncing obedience to the king; the same spirit is working now ns formerly. Were the days quiet, without apprehensions, to have this bill would be the greatest blemish to the government. They, in the last reign, came not to the parliament for liberty to suspend the penal laws, or this bill. This is for a time only, and far from the practice of the last government, or France. Sir Robert Colton. I am ns much for the settlement of the government as any man, and will do as much towards it. I know, as circumstances alter, things must alter, and if only circumstances were altered, and a man to be committed without bail, but to alter the reason of the law is hard. Laws are made that a man may be safe, that a man may know his crime before he be committed to prison, and nuty recover his liberty in a legal manner, as the law appoints. If this was for suspicion of fact by words, or any ground of reasonable suspicion; but when the suspicion lias no ground, but upon private resentments, and that not so open, and not know why suspected, this alters the very reason of the law of Habeas Corpus. 1 know not how to distinguish the Liberties ami Privileges of the house, as was offered yesterday for a Proviso in this Bill; but if nothing he offered upon record, who will know that it is not for words here ? and the liberty of parliament will be destroyed. Wc havi' had u Proclamation about French Goods spoken of here; and the Seal; and that could not he done without advice; and how far may the advisers resentment extend to those who complained of it here, and they touched with it f This is the greatest breach of the subjects liberty without, and the liberty of the house within, 1 hope you will throw out the Bill. Mr. Hampden.I find gentlemen tender in this bill, and I cannot blame them. All the arguments 1 have heard were good, if we were about to take away the law, hut if gentlemen think themselves safe, what need is there of a Militia, for security of the kingdom ? These Acts are like buckets for water, to standby till you have use for them. I know, the Romans gave up all their laws for a time to the Dictators, for the preservation of the government. Sir Joseph Tredenham, I cannot consent to pass this bill. When the f*rst motion was made for this bill, it was for this end, to keep persons (ruin imprisoning by arbitrary power, and now that persons may not claim their Habeas Corpus, when imprisoned, till the government were entirely settled; and now that it is in good forwardness, that case ceases. The privy-council, by this Bill, may imprison upon all suspicions, and the power of the bill last till Oct. next. How agreeable is this to the laws of the kingdom, to make so great qii invasion upon our liberties, 1 must, declare my dissent when the question is put; and since I have this occasion, 1 must make use of my liberty. 1 have a great respect for those that are to ha* e this power, but such an extraordinary authority has always been found fatal to those that have executed it, and been entrusted with it, as lately was the Ecclesiastical Commission. There is a trust implied in those grants, and they are answerable to the Icgislatiie power for their actions, and it is a question whether they will approve of what they have done. The laws are not at all defective. The Habeas Corpus enacts only n de ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- iaments request, had allowed him; and instigated the then duke of York to prosecute the petitioner in an action of Scandalum Magnatum, for speaking this notorious truth; viz. That he, the said duke, was reconciled to the Church of Rome: and that it is high treason to be so reconciled; * wherein a Verdict and Judgment was obtained for 1000/. and the petitioner committed to the King’s-Bench:That, after this, they obtained leave from the king to prefer two several indictments against him, for two pretended penuries, in his Evidence concerning the conspiracy: which they brought to trial in the reign of king James 2, where the petitioner was, upon the evidence of those very witnesses who bad confronted him at three former trials, and were disbelieved, and through the partiality of the late lord Jeffreys, convicted of the said pretended perjuries; and received this unparalleled sentence; viz. to pay to the king 2000 marks; to be divested of his canonical habit; to be brought into Westminster-Hall with a Paper on his head, having this inscription, Titus Oates, convicted, on full evidence, of two horrid Perjuriesto stand in and upon the pillory, two several days, for the space of an hour; and to be whipt, by the common hangman, from Aldgate to Newgate on Wednesday; and to be whipt again, on the Friday following, from Newgate to Tyburn; to stand in and upon the pillory five times in every year of his life:and to remain a prisoner during his life: all which was accordingly executed, with all barbarity, upon the petitioner; lying ten weeks under the surgeon’s hands:hut that some of them afterwards got into his chamber, whilst weak in bed; and attempted the pulling the planters applied for the cure of his back; and threatened to destroy him; procuring him to be loaded with irons of excessive weight for a whole year, even when his leg*! were swoln with the gout; and to be shut up in the dungeon; whereby he became impaired in his limbs, nnd contracted convulsion fits, and other distempers, to the hazard of his life:that, after all such illegal proceedings upon him, he hopes the house will vindicate the proceedings of former parliaments, nnd raise him from the low condition his long and expensive imprisonment hath reduced him to:and prayed the consideration of the house, and that they Maiiy, 1689- — Bill of Indemnity. [2/8 would recommend him to his majesty’s royal protection and bounty, or to give him such other redress, as to them shall seem meet." Ordered, That the said Mr. Oates, and his counsel, be heard at the bar of this house this day sevennight. Exceptions voted in the 'Bill of .] The same day, the house agreed with the committee appointed to prepare Heads for the Bill of Indemnity, in. the following Resolutions: " 1. That the asserting, advising, and promoting of the Dispensing Power and suspending of laws without consent of parliame nt, as it has been lately exercised, and the acting in pursuance of such pretended dispensing power, ts one of the crimes for which some persons may justly be excepted out of the Bill of Indemnity, for the safety, settlement, and welfare of the nation for the future, and the vindication of public justice. 2. That the commitment and prosecution of the seven Bishops, is another crime, for which some persons may justly lie excepted out of the Bill of Indemnity. 3. That the advising, promoting, and executing the Commission for erecting thejatc court for Ecclesiastical Causes, is another crime, &c. 4. That the advising the levying Money, and the collecting the same for and to the use of the crown, by pretence of the prerogative, for other time, and in other manner than the same was granted by parliament, is another crime, &c. 5. That the advising the raising and keeping up a Standing Army in time of peace, without consent of parliament, and the quartering of soldiers, is another crime, &c. 6. That advising, procuring, contriving and acting in the surrender of Charters, and in the alteration and subversion of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- d Delainere and major Wild-man. But he refusing, they caused him to lie kept a close prisoner in Newgate, without lire or candle, 40 weeks. — That they were the principal instruments against Stephen Col-ledge at Oxford; that together with the attorney general, they denied the said Colledge (who was condemned and executed) a copy of his jury, the use of his own papers, and other benefits of the law. — That several other witnesses concurred iu their evidence, that the said Burton and Graham were employed in almost all the illegal prosecutions of the last 8 years. — That though no cause is assigned in the writ of the peers, for committing the late lord Jeffreys to the Tower, they find it to be notorious, that he was instrumental in the undue and illegal prosecution. &c. of lord Russel, col. Sydney, Fitzharris, Colledge, and Armstrong. And it is expressly avowed in the Accounts of the said Burton and Graham, that the said Jeffreys undertook the prosecutions in the West, after Monmouth’s Invasion, and received of the said Burton and Graham, 1416/. 10j. fur the job. To which may be added, that the said Burton and Graham paid to other Commissioners on the estates of attainted persons 1, 117/. 18s. 107. more. — That the said Jeffreys past several grants under the great seal to violate, transgress, and supersede the laws; many shocking particulars of which are enumerated, especially relating to the tyrannical powers delegated to the High Commission Court, of which the said Jeffreys was appointed to be of the quorum, and sat accordingly. — That sir Robert Wright, late lord chief justice, and sir Tho. Jenner, late one of the Justices of the Common-Pleas, had likewise a principal concern in these arbitrary proceedings; for which, in the opinion of the Committee, they were involved in the subversion of the laws and government of this kingdom." Resolutions thereon.] Sir Thomas Littleton then moved, by the direction of the committee, " That the chairman of the grand committee of Grievances might bring in the commissions and oilier writings relating to the court for ecclesiastical causes. And a Resolution was passed accordingly; ns likewise that schedules of Graham and Burton’s accounts be delivered to the clerk of the house, to be kept for the service of the house; as likewise, that the former committee to whom it was referred to examine the cases of prisoners in the Tower, Newgate, and the Gate-house be revived, and do examine toe writings taken with Mr. Brent, and make a schedule of them." Debate on the Ntglect relieving derry.] June 1. Mr. Levtson Ooxcr. 1 2S1J PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mart, 1689. — [282 desire that it may be enquired, why the forces "sent to relieve Londonderry came back again r If Ireland be lost, England will follow — And why the man that was sent to enquire the condition of Londonderry, landed not? Mr. Colt.These delays must lie at some- body’s door. A poor parcel of people defended themselves bravely, and gave a stand to the enemy. I would enquire who were the authors of the counsel, when the commissioners were sent to the army. That brave regiment at Stamford, instead of being sent into Ireland, was to go to Antigua, and the king knew nothing of the matter, but that it was one of the marine regiments. I would have this part of the instructions to your committee to enquire. Mr. Howe. I gladly stand up to second this motion, and I hope, before we part, to second something of the same sort worthy your consideration. They that came back from Ireland perished in the ships by ill provision; those who gave this counsel are greater offenders than they that executed it. I see no justice done upon them; and I should regard them no more than a footman in the streets. I find stones thrown at my back, and I know not who docs it, but if I find persons in the crowd that are my enemies, 1 believe they did it. King William came over and delivered us from these counsels; if we be delivered to these men, who formerly gave the ill cou ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- to maintain it. I would have this for Instruction to the Committee. Mr. Hampden, sen. Lord Lisburne’s regi- ment was thought fit at first to go to Antigua till it was reformed, which is now; hut now another regiment is ordered. Mr. Harbord. I would have it enquired into; but I have heard Mr. Blathwaite, the secretary of war, say, that the king would have a proper person to go, and sir George Lesley was pitched upon, but he lying near Scotland, the king had changed his mind, and that regimebt was fit to go/ Mr. Montagu, Clerk of the Council. I wonder gentlemen should twice repeat this of lord Lisburne. The first regiment was Lesley’s, and that was ordered for Scotland, and the Papists were turned out of it; ns good a regiment as his, lord Roscommon’s regiment, as more proper, was ordered for Ireland. Mr. llowe. I am glad of this good beginning. But I would have this Committee to examine particulars, why we had not kept the Papists for hostages, and why admiral Herbert was sent to sea with but 19 ships, when he should have had 30, and why so many ill men in all offices. It seems, those gentlemen want sense to manage, and so put in king James's Officers; one bucket goes in, and another out. I would enquire into those that give these advices. It is said, in the country, we are betrayed, and if we address the king to remove those who are under Impeachments for crimes, and those that managed king Joiiks’s affairs, we do but what we ought. * * The same day, Mr. Howe, vice-chamberlain to the queen, moved for an Address, to desire his majesty to remove from his presence and councils such ns had been impeached by parliament, and had betrayed the Liberties of the subject: though nobody was named, yet Mart, lfjsp. — Debate on the Heads[2S4 Mr. Holt. We are beholden to Londonderry; if that had not made a good resistance king James had been at Edinburgh before now. I never expect redress of these Miscarriages, till we come to the root. If Londonderry Miscarriage be not redressed, it will come* home to us. The old army, we see, is continued, and the new one laid aside. Those who were king James’s creatures are now in office and employment; and those who have been of tho cabinet-council with the queen. Resolved, u That a Committee be appointed to enquire who has been the occasion of the Delays in sending Relief over into Ireland, and' particularly to Londonderry. Debate on the Heads for the Bill of -nitj/.] June 3. Mr. Howe. I move that you proceed upon the Indemnity; and, as for Offenders, I would shake them off gently from my hand like a viper, hut when it is upon the ground I would tread upon it, and destroy it, that it may hurt no more. Mr. Garroway. We find great miscarriages in the government, but we do not know where to place them; the main of our miscarriage is, that we are not quicker with our Money to supply the present emergencies of the government. As for those who have abused their trust, let better meh be put in their places. The military miscarriage is the source of all. Unless we enable the king, he cannot do it. I am sorry you give the Money at four quarterly payments: I would have had it at two. I will not presume to make you a motion, hut I would go on this Bill of Supply tomorrow, and on Thursday on this Indemnity. it was easy to guess that the persons, at which the address was to be levelled, were the lords Halifax and Danby, the President of the Council, and the Speaker of the house of lords, and that not so much on account of their mismanagements in former reigns, as their ascendancy under the present. This question was debated with great warmth; and, we are told, wns so little expected by the courtiers, that if the contrnry party had not unexpectedly cooled, it would have been carried in the affirmative. But this is not over-likely; because, on the morrow, Mr. Howe renewed the attack, and was suppoited by great many: but the opposite side requiring them to laine the persons, and nobody offering to do it, the moti ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Private Persons ['private persons'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- y are pleadable, or no ? Sir John Thompson. I wonder gentlemen that carried up the Impeachment should be so silent in this matter. If this be an injury to the whole nation, I know not why they should still sit in the lords house under impeachments. I have discharged my duty to my country, do what you please. Sir Wm. Williams. It has been said, that the laws of England arc cobweb laws, that catch small flies, and let the great ones run through/ Whether a general Indemnity, or with exceptions, — that sticks in our teeth. You must either pass a round act, or leave out all. As long as this hangs in the air, men will be desperate. In the first place, take care for the crown and the government; and the next tiling to do is the means, either by an universal Indemnity, or with Exceptions. If you go to particulars, then take care how far Impeachments, according to law of parliament, may be pleadable. Though I have suffered by parliaments, I will vindicate them while I live. If you will lie under your own breaches, I cor* shift for myself as well as another, but I will never complain of my particular. I have no Pardon. Every man needs it. I had my share — It is manifest that the commons have impeached persons. I cannot forget the parliament of 1680; what is become of those Impeachments ? Not one message to the lords yet sent about them. At least wc ought to come to some conclusion, how far Pardons are pleadable against an Impeachment. There are Pardons, and, I hope, learned men will not re-tratt their opinions, that a pardon i9 not pleadable to an Impeachment in parliament. We are in a young government; you would not have that point lurking; cither declare that it is a bar to an Impeachment, or not; and then the king may know what to do. Shall it be said this is too hot a question for the commons to touch, and leave this to the house of commons a vexatious question, to say one thing and do another ? If Pardons from a prince be a bar to Impeachments, farewell to redressing Grievances ! It is a vain thing ever to attempt it again; you will be like the commons in France, to give money as you are directed. I move this for posterity, that the safety of the government may not be lost. Mr. llawles. It is necessary to state this matter controverted; how a Pardon can bo-allowed to be a bar to Impeachment: It it necessary to determine it, if persons you except have pardons in their pockets; if so, you had better pass the Indemnity without any Exception. When the duke of Northumberland, in Edw. 6tl/s time, had a design to bring the crown into a protestant family, the Judges were prevailed upon, by him, to give their Opinion; who said, 4 If they might have their Pardons, after they gave, they w ould give them/ They gave their Opinions in one hand, and had their Pardons in the other; the whole eleven Judges. If the law of parliament in Impeachments be doubtful, it is necessary to declare it. Do it now, and declare what the law is. Col. Birch. I think this point was debated in the Parliament of 1679, * nnd I thought this would not have lost.your time, being to be found fully in your Journals, without a negative. By the Pardon that great lord then pleaded, he confessed himself guilty of the • See vol. iv. p. 1115. * 87] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mart, 1 the Heads [288 charge; that case we all know, and, when it is farther debated, I will tell you my thoughts. It will be necessary that the king should know, that no Pardon is pleadable in bar against an Impeachment of the house of commons. Sir Joseph Tredenham. Though the Pardon mentioned was pleaded to an Impeachment, yet it never came to an Act of Attainder. I remember, in the debates then you had some precedents of Edw. 3, of some that pleaded Pardons. The Spencers in Edw. 2. In ltd. 2 were pardoned Impeachments in parliament. Not that I stand in justification of persons accused, but certainly it is for the advantage of the crown, and its prerogative is to its oxvn benefit. I would have a matter of this dangerous conseqpence remedied by a Bill, but I believe it is not law already. Sir Henri/ Capel. I have observed, that of late years great attempts have been made against the government to pluck it feather by feather. If we have nothing to do here but give Money, is it a parliament, or a senate of New Rome, to set rates upon fruits and ches-nuts ? It is of the greatest consequence in the world that saying, ‘ That the king does no wrong; ’ but who must he answerable for the Miscarcinges in the government, but the ministers ? In Germany, though he be a sovereign prince, he is accountable to the Assembly of Princes for his actions, where all things may be redressed. If the king’s ministers, after iil administration in their places, may plead their Pardons, you have not one king but twenty. I would have but one king, and the ministers, who are our fellow-subjects, are questionable as ourselves. You are told of a Bill of Attainder, and that is a summary way of proceeding, you may read it; hut if not by Impeachment, it is a good way to prevent all prosecution of offenders. Pray put the question, *That an Impeachment of the house of commons is a bar to all Pardons." Sir Rd. Temple. If it be so, I would declare it, hut if not, make no reflection on it. Formerly there were Appeals of Treason, and those the king could not pardon; but by Hen. 4, all appeals of treason were taken away; as well as in murder and felony, the king could not pardon. I would gladly hear the Long Robe declare that this is a law. I should be glad if wc could come at it, and I should have no tenderness for those who have violated the laws and liberties. You may make void Pardons, by act of parliament, as in the case of the archbishop of York, which was voided. 1 profess, I am doubtful, when no man has ac-serted this to be the law of parliament. It is not in the house of commons to declare law but in a Christian way, and an Act may be made, for the future, to settle the matter. I would not assert a thing we cannot make good else w here. Sir ll w. Williitv >s.I am called up by Tem- ple:he has refreshed my memory. If a subject be murdered, the next of kin may bring an Appeal, and for that reason an Impeachment is not pardonable, because it is at the suit of the subject, and an Impeachment is an Appeal of all the commons of England. He mentioned an address in Edw. 3.’s time, ‘ that no Pardons should be to persons impeached/ and it was resolved in the negative, and the commons sat down by it; but God forbid, all Addresses should be objected, which are done in modesty ! Can he give one instance; that ever a pardon of an impeachment was allowed in parliament? The law of reason is for it. Sir Rob. Howard. I have no mind to speak for this case, that the commons should nave this turned into a law; wc should be so fatal a people that all your Petition of Right would be damned by it, and must that have a blemish upon it, because you desired it? And you confess it is not law, because you desire it to be made law. If that argument be so, whatever you desire to be a law, is not lawful till confirmed. Mr. Ettrick. The lawyers of Westminster-Hall know little of this matter. It is of great consequence one way as the other, either to the king’s prerogative, or the right of this house. As to the inconvenience, it seems extremely wrong on one side, if oue way, he mu9t have a pardon; ftnd in pleading that pardon, if the lords should bold the law to be otherwise than you do, you will have a foil in the matter. The king’s prerogative will have a great consideration here, as well as in the lords house. I move that you will go on with the Heads of the Indemnity. Mr. Harries. Something of the king’s pre- rogative 1 hear offered, but if we go to the precedent or judgment upon pardons pleaded, wc must go to a parallel case. This is an Appeal to an Impeachment, and then a parallel case will carry it. The king cannot pardon, in a private case of an Appeal, much less what is against the public. As to what is said of the statute which takes away appeals of treason, it was from private persons to appeal one another in parliament, as in the case of lord Mowbray, and the earl of Hereford, they were private animosities. If you allowpnrdons, there is an end of the case, and they need not plead a pardon in bar, but in abatement only. In that mentioned of Edw. 3, Sec. there is a little weight in that. Mr. Brockman. I wonder this should be debated now. I remember a stamped pardon by creation. I appeal whether this did not formerly occasion conferences ? Lord Angle-sea managed for the lords, and as great a debate was upon it then as now, and the lords agreed, that it was no bar to an Impeachment; ’ and in the next parliament was the same thing debated, and another debate did arise of the continuance of Impeachments in intermission of parliament; and it was concluded, That in intermission of parliament there was no discontinuance of Impeachments.’ You may see the Journals, that all this is true in fact. Sir Christ. Mu strove. If that be already £$9] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mary, 1689. — [‘290 settled, then the point is well declared already. 1 doubt the lords did not declare it. The Speaker. This house did declare it, and demanded Judgment of the lords, upon lord Danby’s pleading; therefore before you give your Judgment, sec how the method stands upon your Books. Sir Wm. Williams. Lord Stafford was impeached in one parliament, and attainted iu another. Resolved, " That it is the opinion of this house, that a Pardon is not pleadable in Bar ol an Impeachment in Parliament." Debate on the Judgments against Titus Oates.J Sir Hubert Houard moving in favour of Dr. Oates’s Judgment, * some gentlemen hissed, iic said, Such gentlemen as did it I shall not be reconciled to, unless they love whipping and perpetual imprisonment, and no continuation of tiie Popish Plot. I do acknowledge the lords the supreme judicature in parliament; but 1 know the legislative power may repeal a Judgment they have given. The lords have affirmed the Judgment in the King’s Bench agai ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- evidence. Says one, It is true.’ Says another, ‘ It is not true.' Why should these two servants swear voluntarily against Oates, unless suborned ? There is a man called sir Roger [L'Estrange], who, under I he pretence of maintaining Church, publishes, ‘ That Oates alone was a single evidence against the duke of York and, that every magistrate, or chief governor, may forbid any religion, and to do this, the king has two advantages, he has law, and arms.’ This sir Roger published before Oates’s trial. Whether true or false, Oates was an enemy to the Popish religion. I speak this but to the purpose, eight or nine swore positively he was at St. Omers, and he had evidence to prove that he was not. He was convicted of perjury only in matter of time, which he had four or five witnesses to prove, but could not be heard. Mr. HawUs. You have heard of some peo- ple that disown the government, and disperse pamphlets; and no wonder, when the worst Judgment that was ever given in law is affirmed by the lords. There is no such Judgment in law against any man, nor ever so exacted, and this gives occasion for people to talk, 1 that one house was for it, and another house against it.' This verdict cost the king two thousand odd hundred pounds. I have known, that when a jury have had a guinea more given than ordinary, that verdict has been set aside as if given amongst them. If a jury goes against the humours of the court, as in Willmore’s Case> * " The Compiler heard him imperfectly." Gr^y. [29 * and others, they are browbeaten, and as the jury are used, so are the witnesses. 1 would have this Judgment against Oates called a cruel and illegal Judgment, ’ and so to vote it. ' Serj. Maynard. To vote this Judgment so here, will not do your work, for here is the Judgment of the lords against your vote; you must do more; for when there is a Record in the King’s-bench, there it remains. I would not meddle with the Judgment that the lords have given, but you may complain of it as a Grievance, and may so take notice of it ns n stab to our liberties. Vole this illegal, and you have the Opinion of the Judges in the lords house with you; vote it a Grievance and you may have this Judgment cancelled. Sir H7. Williams. I think this will he too little. The lords are n court, and have recorded their Affirmation, and it is past their power to reverse it, and it is not safe for the Judges to give another Opinion in the King’s-bench; but if they have the countenance of this in the King’s-bench the lords themselves may feel it. This man is a clergyman, and to he unrobed, and divested of his orders in the King’s-bench, and so to continue during his life — how a court of Jnw can do this, I am unsatisfied. But what we are to consider of is this, whether a subject should rest under that judgment. There may he a precedent for whipping, hut for ull these parts in one Judgment, let any man give us a precedent to square with that Judgment. It makes the Judges arbitrary, and hereafter the Judges may be most injurious in punishing, this Judgment having had this sanction in the house of peers. This is the case; and what is there fit for us to do ? but one thing; and that is to reverse the Judgment, by act of parliament. Go in the ordinary way of the legislative power, and not by the declaring this or that, hut a reversal of that Judgment, as illegal. If we vacate the Judgment only, that will not do; the consequence will be that we must admit it for the future. But if, by law, you declare tt illegal aod erroneous, there is an obvious objection, * that the lords will not agree to the Bill; * but that is no answer to me, .for the lords will do it, and have reason for it, ferthe Judges gave their Opinion against it, (but that is not upon record). I do not deliver it as history, but it confirms iny opinion, that you have opportunity to reverse it by Bill, as illegal, and that is worth a thousand votes. The writs of error that Oates brought are upon two records, and they are both entered affirmed in the KingVbeuch, so that it cannot be vacated but by Bill of Reversal. Col. Birch. We are now a great many gentlemen met here, who were not here in the examination of the Plot. According to my place and ability, 1 had in the chair much of the Examination thnt went through my fingers, which was so clearly proved, that all England was satisfied, as well as the lords and commons. I know no blow can be given like this to the lords and commons. We well know who they were that did what they could to make tlu * PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mart, 1689- — 2<)5j Paul, history, i William & Plot a ridicule, but when a jesting business could not do, they took all the ways they could to suppress it. Under a popish prince, I expected much more than from Oiners, I dare uot call it St. Omers; and now that any body should be so bold as to pin this at our breeches, let them answer it. The bouse was dissolved, or else I had made a warm Report on the Monday. But as the commons are made black by this Judgment, so I would have a Bill to make somebody black too, and if we arc denied it, to go iioine with honour, and they with shame. As they made us black, so the Bill will wash us, and lay (be black where it should be. Mr. Howe. I am sorry we are under sufferings; still the same bands are upon us. If we hav$ a Bill to vindicate ourselves, we are sure the people will vindicate us against them. I would vote this Judgment ‘ illegal, cruel, and a Grievance. ' Mr. Boscaieen. The affirming this Judgment is not for Uates’s sake, but for the sake of the Popish Plot. I think there was so much art used to get that Judgment, that, for thnt reason, I would lay it to heart. 1 wish the same spirits have not the influence to do the same things again. I think it not amiss to add to the question, That it is your opinion that this Judgment against Oates was a design to stifle the Popish T’lot, and by such arts as 3,000l. spent upon the Trial.’ 1 would have something of that in the question. Sir Henry Cupel. This Judgment has a bottom deeper than I can well express it; it cost dissolving three parliaments. I remember when the crown and robes were carried in haste in a chair at Oxford, to dissolve that parliament, when we were upon the point of discovering Fitzharris’s Plot.* If we pass this Judgment by, we approve all this. If you add to your Vote, upon suppressing the Popish Plot, ' the world will then see the reason of your vote, and the occasion of this man’s Trial, and the w ot Id will know it was upon the Popish Plot. Mr. Foby.We have the Judgment before us, and wlrat it cost, but, besides that, many have had continual pensions since. Sir Tlio. Whitgrave of Staffordshire has had one, and no waiter.' Therefore I move as before. Sir Tho. Lee.Every body has agreed in the end; we differ only ill the means; The consequence of this Judgment affirmed will nffect every body, and, perhaps, if to do again, would not be done; the consequences were not foreseen as observed. 'Tis to establish a rule of punishment hereafter. But consider, Oates was not the sole evidence thnt convicted lord Stafford; therefore restrain your Vote to that question. Sir Wm. Williams. One record of Oates’s conviction relates to Ireland, the Jesuit; we have all that trial, and Whitebread, all founded on popery; do but deem the Judgment to be ‘ cruel and illegal, * it will do the business. Mr. Hawlcs. I like the question relating to * See vol. iv. p. 133 ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- dw. Hales’s case of Dispensation, kooks have been published, and I shall say the less of that; most gentlemen, I presume, being satisfied. Herbert has written his own Jastifica- 301] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mary, [30C tion, and it has with me some weight. As to the general Declaration, I could never And any thing in my reading to justify it, it pulling all up by the roots, and the law of no force; nothing like it but the Case in Ch. 2. Whoever will follow such a precedent, so justly decried by all people, deserves to be punished. Where there is just cause, you may proceed to exception, and let justice go with mercy. Sir Hobt. Howard. I suppose you will go farther than the four Judges; to the advisers and promoters of the Judgments. But how will you be informed, and bring persons to do it ? The only way to do it is to name the persons visible, and who are matter of record; without a committee, it is impossible to have names. Therefore I move, that you will go upon the several Heads, and those to be referred to a committee, to uame persons in relation to those heads. When these are all before you, the names may be put to the beads, and you may proceed upon them. Sir The. Jtee. I would understand what it is you are about: whether an Act of Indemnity, or pains and penalties ? I conceive you are not going by impeachments, and I suppose you are not setting up an enquiry, who was of this opinion, or who that; if so you must go all England over. No man can miss the name of a man, if he please, they have been so notorious. These Heads lead you to every man you will except, and these are obvious. Mr. Brewer. Whoever the judges were, they are great criminals; but I would have the offence certain. I dare say, no Judgment was ever given in the Declaration, but you may know who were judges in the KingV Beuch then. Mr. Howe. I suppose it is not designed that you should except all those names, and we do it at committees. We have begun this Head, though one of the last of Grievances: but I would have them distinguished from mankind. I would know those who broke the hedges, and let in the cattle; and then see who you will except, and who you will forget. Sir Hobt. Colton, of Cambridgeshire. I am against a committee:I think it will alarm the whole nation. I think the former Indemnity did quiet the nation, and I hope this will. I think there needs no committee to inform you who the judges were, who the lord-lieutenants, and who concerned in corporations; persons so notorious, and so well known, that the whole nation can distinguish them; therefore I am against a committee. Sir j Hob.Howard. I do not apprehend the danger of a Committee. I wonder at this doctrine, that a committee should alarm the na- Uon.’ Is it not an alarm to the nation to have a Dispensing Power, and Judgments against corporations? I wonder this should go so high (as is said) to ‘ alarm the nation.’ No such ©lienees were known before; such powers were never known before:the very roots of parliament destroyed. I shall not be zealous in contending, whether you will have a committee, or no, to enquire into persons; but you must have a committee to enquire into the courts of justice; and I move, that you will go upon Names; and I think it will be for the content of the people, and not to atarm’ them. Mr, Hawles. I know not the custom heretofore, in bills of this nature; but I see no inconvenience in a committee. The officers of the court may give the same information to a committee as to the house. It is the shorter way to examine it before a committee, only to enquire into Officers and Judges. It may tend to expedite the matter. Mr. Ettrick, I desire an end of this as much as any man. The Judges are going the circuits and the jails are full: your Act may come too late into the country. To enquire into the Advisers and Assisters will take up a great deal of time. Those who were notoriously exemplary I would put a mark upon; and let the others go off without any mark, and cl ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- y, who persevered to the last. Mr. Ettrick. Powell was not then a Justice of the King’s-bench. The question is, whether he was there, and whether he gave any opinion ?’ They were at lord chief justice Herbert’s chamber, and Powell said, ‘ It was a new thing, and he could not suddenly give his Judgment.’ They would give judgment on Monday, and not upon surprize. Holloway resolved to vindicate himself in print, hut as soon as he was removed into the King’s bench, and had an opportunity, he gave his Judgment; and 'Wright said, You always, brother, have been of that opinion.’ Powell is a man of too much learning and honesty to be of that opi^ nion. Sir Tho. Littleton. J would know why, to this day, he would never say to his brother Holloway he had done him wrong. Sir Robert Howard.I think we are not at all travelling towards the Indemnity. We are told hearsays of Powell and Holloway. Pray put the question upon those who gave the Opinion in sir Edw. Hales’s Case. 1 cannot but be a little surprized when the use was for the king to dispense these laws, and by consequence all laws; and that in the case of the Bishops they should bind — I hope these extra-judiciary Opinions may he condemned. The fault was, saying what opinion they were of. If Holloway had been a judge for life, possibly he \vould not have been of that opinion. I hope this may be prevented for the future. Mr. Howe. Which is the greater crime; they that went a fishing for a knave to do it, or the poor knave that did it ? Was there no property in England till Magdalen College ? Nor any liberty till tha Bishops were sent to the Tower ? It will be impossible to find them out. Rather adjourn the debate, or give a ge^ neral Act of Oblivion to all, for the greatest part of England were criminal. Mr. Houles. I have heard that Judges patents were formerly, Quamdiu se bene gesse-riut, ’ and if you do not punish the Bene pla-cito’ men, you will confirm those of ‘ Quamdiu, ’ &c. to do as those before them. The last Grievance was that of Magdalen College^ and those turned out, got by it. If I were to begin, I would at the first head; that is, the Oxford Parliament. We know that sir Edw. Hales’s Case was a moot, a feigned case. Wright is dead, and Herbert fled; some were frighted, and some cared not what they did a rush; but the Attorney-General and Solicitor-General are men of estates; let us know who 319] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & was the attorney and solicitor-general then; let us know at that time who pa*sed that patent, and then you have a criminal before you. Sir Joseph Tredenham.When you will exercise your justice, I would not do it till the greatest criminals are named. You have been told of taking away Charters of Corporations: consider what a great number will be involved on that head, and how safe the government will be when so many are unsafe under it. The Regulators, which happened after the surrenders, that comes under that Head. When offences come to be general, there is no way but to cover them all by a general act of par-. liament; for these reasons, when you look into the Revolution, all sorts of persons have contributed to it; and people will rather upon severity cover past faults with greater, than be reformed. Sir John Lowther. In conversation, through frailty, »e both give and take offence. No man here but may have his revenges, and some upon me: 1 am willing to forgive, 1 desire to be forgiven by all the world. We have got the government settled:I would punish for the future, and pardon all that is past. Mr. Smith. I should heartily concur to the motion, if it would give content to the people. If we name not some persons, we must allow their offences. I speak for the justice of the nation. These who have got estates by our misfortunes, will get into the government, and you go about to qualify them for it. I must say, if you respect not the king's Declaration, nor the justice of the nation, I cannot agree. Mr. Howies. I never heard of a general Act of Indemn ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- applies to lord Nottingham; but that is not a good way; he should have applied to the lords commissioners of- the Admiralty, and has not done as he should, but it is a hard case to lay the stress upon lord Nottingham; and if I had a son that had dooe as lord Danby, I would have done so; and therefore, as Garroway proposed, the complaint against lord Danby is not sufficient to put him in custody. I have no obligation to lord Nottingham: I speak my mind, and I care not two-pence for those who inter rupt me, [something in passion] be they who they will. I have drawn my sword for the king, and I care not for the censure of any man. I would leave lord Nottingham out of the question. Sir John Thompson. He that touches the parliament, touches the vital part of the nation. The fault is the greater; for the man is not fit to be secretary that carries about him the legislative authority to commit in this manner. The messenger had been clapped up, if he had not done it; it was the secretary did it. Put the queslion thus, That granting the Warrant without notice, See. was a Breach of Privilege." Mr. Howe. I am satisfied of Harbord’s good intentions; but if I had a child, I would have a French Protestant to govern him, and not a secretary of state. We are told of your mem^ ber’s pirating, but what reason for his taking up, I know not; but pray right yourselves, and put the question. Sir Joseph Tredenham. I desire, that my son should be tutored by an Englishman, and not by a French Protestant, I am entirely 367] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mahy, 1689.-2^ King’s Speech. [368 for the question proposed. If it he a Breach, it ought to be so tender that hereafter it may not & a precedent for the loss of privilege; for that reason, I would not pass it over in silence; the consequence may be fatal. I was with lord Nottingham, but the question is, Whether his Answer was a ground to attach yOur member ? But there is a distinction between those that have the honour to sit here, and a private person; I see him no otherwise criminal for this warrant, but as lord Danhy is a member. But as for the kindness of the father to his son, the complaint ought to have been made unto you. Some gentlemen are for a committee to enquire into it, but if you are not at the bottom already, I would have a committee. The present business is to vindicate your own privileges. Therefore I am for such a question. Sir John Guise. I am sorry we should have comparisons betwixt father and son, to our detriment. Something of piracy was spoken under me, &c. but I hope that is but a con- i'ecture. But if the vessel was armed, nobody mew who it was for, or who against. I would name the person that granted the warrant, and refer the rest to a committee. Sir Henry Goodrick. It is certain that lord Danby made his application to the duke of Schomberg, and the office of Ordnance, and had ammunition and provision to scour upon privateers; it is a little vessel, and can fight or not fight as he will; the general gave directions for it, and he had arms, &c. accordingly. I have not seen the marquis, but his mother was alarmed, and was not willing the whole stay of their family should run hazard with privateers, ander a pretence to scour about the river. But such imminent hazard he was like to run of his life, that they were resolved to take all means to stop him. IN>hope this will satisfy the house, and not rest upon him as any scandal. I aver this to be matter of fact, and I would only vote this to be a Breach of Privilege, without naming lord Nottingham. Perhaps he was led by this inducement. Sir Christ. Musgrave. I think Goodrick spoke against the addition of the question naming lord Nottingham, because it appears on your Journal the warrant was entered there; and therefore no reason for the addition, being now no occasion. The thing is to assert your privileges and rights, and the question will run well without the addition. Sir Robert Howard. The thing is very unhappy, and much mistaken in t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- h from the king’s income, but adds much more to the benefit of trade, which the lords conceive they are equal and competent judges of, and therefore may very well insist on their Proviso." To which the duke of Bolton added, " That he hoped a good correspondence would be maintained between the two bouses; for that they were Englishmen, as well as the commons." And the question being put, to agree with the lords, it pasied in the negative, and Reasons to be offered at a free Conference were directed to be prepared. Aug. 31. The lords desired a free Conference on the Bill of Rights and Succession, of which Major Wilrlman gave the following Report. " That the Bishop of Salisbury was chief manager for the lords, who said the lords had considered of what was oflercd at the last free conference; and as to the two clauses, and all matters depending thereon, touching the De-Vol. V. iRr, 1689. — Report of Conferen [3H6 ’ claration to be made by the king and queen* and the persons to tuke the same, the lord* insist upon their Amendment; and that they adhere to their Amendment touching the limitation to the princess Sophia of Hanover. That the managers then proposed to the lords, whether the lords would admit of any farther debate touching the said matters; to which the lords reply, No; they had no such thing iu charge from the lords." Report of the Conference on the Bill for reversing the Judgments against Oates.] The Solicitor General made the Report of the free Conference had with the lords, touching the Amendments proposed by the lords to be made to the Bill for reversing two Judgments given in the Court of King’s-bench against Titus Oates, clerk. Which Report is as follows: " That the Conference was begun by the managers of this house; who did acquaint the lords, That the commons had desired this free conference, iu order to a good correspondence with their lordships. That they look upon the Bill for reversing the Judgments against Oates, not to be the business of a particular man, but of every subject in England, with regard to his person and estate: and that the honour of parliaments, public justice, and the Protestant religion, were concerned in it, as well as the integrity of king Charles 2. and his privy-council:and that the lords Amendments, if agreed to, would make that Bill of great pre? judice to the subject, instead of answering the ends which were intended by the commons. uThat the lords Amendments were of two sorts; some relating to the Judgments, and others to the Verdicts. As to the Amendments relating to the Judgments, the commons had hoped, that, after the Declaration presented to their majesties upon their accepting the crown (wherein their lordships *had joined with the commons in complaining of the cruel and illegal punishments of the last reign; and in asserting it to he the ancient right of the people of England, that they should not be subjected to cruel and unusual punishments; and that nojudgments to the prejudice of the people in that kind ought in any-wise to be drawn into consequence, or example); and after this Declaration had been so lately renewed in that part of the Bill of Rights which the lords had agreed to; they should not have seen Judgments of this nature affirmed, and been put under a necessity of sending up a Bill for reversing them; since those Declarations will not only be useless, but of pernicious consequence to the people, if, so sooa after, such Judgments as these stand affirmed, and be not taken to be cruel and illegal within the meaning of those Declarations. — That the commons had a particular regard to theso Judgments, amongst others, when that Declaration was first made; and must insist upon it, that they are erroneous, cruel, illegal, and of ill example to future ages; which is the character fixed upon them by the Bill sent up 387] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & M to the lords. — -That the lords having gone so far as to agree the Judgments to be erroneous, it could not be denied, that they we ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e corruption of the Verdicts:S. That their proviso against Oates’s being received tor a witness, do pass: 3. That so great an hardship should not be put upon the house of peers, as that they should, in express terms, reverse their own Judgments, since there was no necessity of it." The Managers for the commons, byway of Reply, pave a summary Account of the whole Proceedings, in relation to the Popish Plot; and of the several subornations, and other foul practices, winch had been used to stifle the evidence, and discredit the witnesses, particularly Oates. As to the lords amendments, which concerned the Judgments, it was said by the managers, " That there were precedents made, which affected every Englishman. That, by taking upon them to afliro) such Judgments as these, the lords had, in a manner, taken the law into their hands. That this arbitrary power, in the lords judicature, is a new discovery; and, if it had hcen understood in former times, would have been a very expeditious way of altering the law, upon several occasions. — The lords, as a court of judicature, are as strictly tied to give judgment upon a writ of error, according to law, as any inferior court whatsoever: They must not pro- ceed upon considerations of convenience; but this judgment of the lords is agreed to be given, not according to law *, but according to an opinion which their lordships had conceived of the party; and that also, without any judicial examination:instead of correcting the ac- knowledged errors of the judgments in the King’s-beneh, they affirm them; and so change the law, which ought to be the certain and steady rule of government, into the arbitrary resolutions of that house. — That nothing was aimed at by the commons in this bill, but to set that matter right: if this bill be lost, the lords have settled it for law, that every subject may be used in this ignominiuus and barbarous manner. Oates is the least part of the question, how much soever he seem concerned in it: the grievance is, that the whole kingdom, for Oates’s sake, must be made liable to these whippings. — The commons hoped, the lords will take this opportunity of redeeming this error, by passing the bill as it was sent up by the commons; and not expect, because they have given a wrong judgment, that therefore the commons must join to support it by an act of parliament: for tlmir lordships clause did really countenance the Judgment against Oates; enacting only, That s>ch punishment shall not be inflicted for the future. — I hat it was of great importnneo to the kingdom to have tins matter settled; judgments of this kind linking been extended to several persons, and to very different cases; as in that of Mr* Johnson: it was thought (with reason enough, perhaps) by the ministers of those times, that such punishments would awe the people, and fit them for slavery, worse than death itself; according to sir Thomas Smiths observation, ‘ That no nation is less fearful of death, or more afraid of torments, than the English That-the commons could not think the nation safe without an express and plain declaration, not only, that the Judgments of the King’s-bench were illegal, cruel, and of evil example to future ages, hut also, that the affirmation of those Judgments was contrary to law." To what was said, by the lords, to maintain the Amendments winch concerned the Verdicts, the Managers for the commons replied to this effect: * That the lords, by insisting not to agree to the clause in the bill which calls the Verdicts corrupt, unless the commons could bring positive proof of an express coutiact for money, to be paid directly to hire the jurors to give the verdicts, did seem to have inverted the several methods of proceedings in their 395] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mary, 1689. — Sfc. [396 distinct capacities. — In their judicature, where .they ought to act by the strict rules oHaw, they proceed according to a supposed convenience:in their legislative capacity, where there is a latit ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'right of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- certainty and convenience, a single expression, ‘ of a corrupt verdict/ though inserted upon such just grounds, wiL not be allowed; unless a precise proof be made in the strictest forms of courts. If Oates's brain was turned, as was said by the lords, the more wrong was dune, by convicting him for perjury; which a madman cannot be guilty of: and, after such cruel usage (which would make a wiser man mad) it may with more reason be believed his brain is turned; and then there is little danger of his being used in evidence for the future. That it was observable, that Oates was sentenced to be whipped from Aldgate to Newgate on the Wednesday; and from thence to Tyburn on Friday following: which could be intended no otherwise, but in the nature of a rack; that, by the •mart of the first sufferings, and the approaching terror of the next, he might be brought to make such a recantation as was desired:and it is hard to think, that any thing, but a full persuasion in himself, that what he swore was true, could support a man under such torture. If Oates had been guilty of perjury about the Queen-dowager, or any other matter, which has not hitherto been brought in question, it did not relate to the present case:he is liable to be indicted, and punished for it, whatsoever becomes of this bill. — That the commons did not argue, That, because a man had been once believed nt a trial, he was not to be prosecuted for perjury after:but they observed, that the very same objections had been made to Oates’s testimony at former trials, and proved by the same witnesses; and yet the juries gave credit to Oates: so that, according to the lords way of reasoning, to suppose Oates to be perjured in those points, was to attaint those former juries; and the lords ought to be as careful of charging such a guilt upon one jury, as another. Upon the whole matter, the commons did not think it reasonable it should be required of them to concur to support any part of this erroneous record. It is the right of the subject, that all that is done before or after an illegal Judgment, should fall with it; and though, in proceedings in the legislative way, the commons are sensible they are not tied up to forms, yet they arc certainly bound to the rules of natural justice, and are not to deprive the subject of his legal advantage." The Managers for the commons concluded the conference, by stating the case, in short, to the lords: " A writ of error is brought in the bouse of peers: the lords do all avow the judgments to be erroneous; yet, as judges, do, for collateral reasons, assume an arbitrary power to affirm it. The nature of the Judgment being such, as that every subject was concerned in the highest degree, that so dangerous a precedent should not stand, the commons find themselves under a necessity of sending a bill to the lords to set the matter right, by reversing the Judgment. The lords refuse to pass this bill but upon terms: 1. That part of the record must stand; 2. That there must be no notice taken of the Judgments of affirmation given by the peers: As these are the terms bow stood upon, so m any other like case they might impose what other terms and conditions they had a mind to. The consequence must be, that the lords, as judges, make what they think fit to be law; and the matter shall never be set right in the legislative way, but upon such conditions as the lords shall be pleased to impose: and bow far this concerned the king, and the commons, as to their right in the legislature, was obvious." A debate arising in the commons, touching the said Amendments proposed by the lords to be made to the Bill; and the question being put thereupon severally, That the house do agree with the lords in the said Amendments; k passed in the negative. Ordered, " That the committee who managed the above Conference do inspect the Journals of both houses, and examine, whether there be any precedents of free Conferences desired, and yet there hath not been thereat a liberty of debate of th ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'right of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Right of the Subject ['right of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- times taken into his possession the post-mail coming to the said town, and disposed of the Letters at his pleasure, to the great prejudice of the traders, &c. of the said town, and the gentry * " Upon the whole matter Oates, by the dint of the struggle, made a shift to obtain, 1. An Address from the parliament to the king, requiring that his majesty would be graciously pleased to grant him his pardon, 2. The king’s pardon in consequence of that Address, and, 3. A pension of 5/. a week in lieu of the several pensions formerly granted him by king Charles of 624/. 60/. and 200/. per ann. which he had been deprived of, and which he had now again applied for, and expected to be restored to." Ralph. Mary, 1689- — Tumultuous Petition. [400 in the neighbourhood. That he having made complaint of this to John Wildman, esq. postmaster general, the said post-roaster ordered him to cause the mails to be brought directly to his own house; and, likewise, wrote to the said col. Copley to enjoin him, not to open the mail for the future; Notwithstanding which, the said colonel behaved ns before, and sent for the petitioner to come to him, who declining it, on account of indisposition; the said Copley ordered a serjeant, and four musqueteers to bring him, tied neck and heels, which they did with such a strange violence, that the blood gushed out of his nose and, mouth, and kept him in that intolerable posture for two hours. In consequence of which, the said petitioner is disabled in his limbs, and impaired in his sight, &c. and for as much as the said petitioner cannot have his remedy against the said Cop-Icy, by a due course of law, praying the house to take his case into consideration, &c. Ordered, That lieut. colonel Copley do attend the house. Aug. 14th, The said Copley attended accordingly, and the petitioner having made good his allegations, Resolved, " That the seizing the Mail, and breaking open the Post-Letters by any military officer or soldier, is a violation of the right of the subject. That the breaking open the Letters directed to, or sent from a member, is a Breach of Privilege. That the imprisoning, or inflicting any punishments, by any officer or soldier, upon any of the subjects of this kingdom, not being in actual military service, and in pay, is a violation of the rights of the people. That the case of the Petitioner be referred to the committee of grievances." Another Petition was presented against the said Copley, for exacting a farthing a tun, from every ship eutering the port of Hull:upon which he was again summoned to attend the house; and alledging the said farthing a tun was his perquisite, as lieut. governor, for the maintenance of a certain Chain; Resolved, " That the levying a farthing a tun, or any sum of money on Ships coming into the port of Hull, upon preteiK e ol n ..in-taining a Chain there, is an ilhual exaction upon the people." And he was after*-, ards enjoined to levy the said pretended duty no more. A tumultuous Petition Silk-Weavers, occasioned by a Witalicn Till.] 'I Ins day the commons having sent np a Bill to the hnds, for the enjoining the wearing the Woollen Manufacture of this kingdom at certain t ines of the year, the bailiffs, wasdens, and assistants of the companies of Silk-Weavers of London and Canterbury, presented a P. t.tion to their lordships in a tumultuous manner, praying to be heard before the said bill should he pu^cd into a law. Whereupon the house ordered their Speaker t<> tell the petitioners, " That the lords did not then think tit to give an Answer, because they observed there was an unusual manner of application of men, who ought to be •401] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mary, 1689- — [10? better directed by them who were bailiffs, war* dens, and assistants of the Company. That the lords did first require that those crouds should go home; and when that was done, neither they, nor others, people of this nation, needed to doubt, but that their lordships would do justice, and hear the objections of parties concerned in this or any other Bill that should come before them." — And to prevent the eruption of this unruly multitude, which was supposed to be egged on by the discontented, the lards desired his majesty to command some of the horse and foot guards to be aiding to the civil powers; and ordered the governor of the Tower to take care to prevent any unlawful concourse of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- y man. You are told, both, &c. might have been taken care ofbut I think it could not. It must be remembered, that the Streights Fleet ore refitting, and Berkeley’s iu harbour, which make up twenty-seven or eight :.so that number being added to Berkeley’s and those designed for the Indies and Streights, I think the Admiralty not much asleep in the •ervice. The Petitioners being called in, were ordered to attend on Monday; and captain George Churchill, a member of the house, had notice to attend in his place at the same time. ' Debate on the State of the iVofion.] Nov. 14. The house went into a grand committee on the State of the Nation. Mr. Howe. I think the question is, Whether the Merchants were lost for want of being kept, as the Chairman states it? I would consider every part by itself: 1. That the Miscarriages are faults, and not misfortunes: 2. How the Toulon Fleet came to join the Brest fleet, and, 3. How king James got into Ireland. Not guarding the seas has been a great fault. If the admirals are in fault, put them out; punish them. When the men were to go into Ireland, there was nothing to transport them, and no provision for them. Name the persons that are to blame; come to the root, and that is the way to cure the branches. Provisions were faulty, and, in some places, none to be bad. No man can be angry with a mas forgetting a good place, or buying it cheap; enquire into those who put them in. Scotland is in ill hands; in Flanders we pay for 10,000 men, and have not 3000. These little things moved are below us. At the good spring in Hyde Park, if one pipe runs muddy, then cleanse it; but if the whole spring runs nmddy, we shall think somebody stirs it with a dirty stick. I do not like shooting cannon at sparrows. Sir Tho. Clarges. I think the Trade of the nation is no sparrow/ Yon are told of n 10/. convoy, &e. is that nothing ? I know no greater offence in the government than raising money on the subject; it is an obstruction of trade, and a great Grievance, and we must look for a remedy. The great end of enquiry into these matters, is to prevent coming into them again. I move, That the question may be, That the not guarding the Seas, is an obstruction of Trade, and a Grievance to the Nation/ Sir Joseph Tredenham. I think nothing will more satisfy the people, than to let them see that we do it for their benefit, that they may pay taxes more easily. I move that it may be represented what an ill state we are in. Sir Tho. Clarges. If it be a Grievance that trade is obstructed for want of Convoys, you ought to declare it so. What else would you redress ? I lay no imputation on gentlemen; I do not arraign the thing; but the loss of seven or eight vessels is an inconsiderable thing: and you will be at the same pass next year. Call it a Grievance, and put your stamp upon it. Sir Tho. Littleton. If you can find out persons, punish them; but, in the mean time, find out the thing. When you have found out stations for Ships, as merchants can best inform you, if you apply to the king he will remedy it, but not to pick holes m the government. Sir John Guise. Do you think this will make more discontent in the nation titan is already? Every 9ea-port knows and speaks it. I have heard, and am afraid, that when the French came out, some of ours came in. If you believe that was so, that your Ships were called away, and your Merchants left, you may resolve it. I am afraid the removing those ship* was the loss. Col. Birch. We all agree, that one such a year’s war more will make an end of you. In short, from one end to the other, there is no part of what we have done this year that will serve our turn the next year. It is not os formerly, when care was taken to suppress that debauchery that is now, both in the Navy and Army, and till you suppress damning and swearing: [He was called to name them/) He replied, Pray name them that do not — not to talk of spending 500,000l. in the tail of the year. Formerly, Merchants were hired and sent out, whose interest it was; they paid them well, and the sea was well guarded. They did not do as they did this year, pack them up like herrings in a barrel; they brought the nation to that greatness, that all the world durst not look us in the face. Then Money went out carefully and regularly. Sometimes the Commissioners went as low as Chatham, and then they did more in two months than now in twelve. If this is the thing, what do you enquire after ? Part with your Money, and wait better luck. That 18 or 20 French ships should come from Toulon to Brest, and nobody hear of them! Pardon that piece of ill luck in our people, to be asleep all that while. It looks like something either to weaken you, or to bring you to a Treaty with the French. These men formerly would have been at Cork or Kin ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e not much that you should put it, for they tell you, Those were called back by the king’s command / but to send none in their place, — I believe his majesty a prince of better conduct than to aver such a thing. If gentlemen agree with me, that neither our conduct nor way of fighting, are fit to be done again next year, we must have other hands next year, else the game is up; had you other hands, I would give my consent to hang good numbers. To have shoes made by a joiner ! Men may he gallant, but not skilled in sea-matters till they know. You need not press Merchant-Ships’; they will come in; but I will speak no more of men I do not know. Had we Tarpaulins to command, we should, next year, have something like something. Admiral Russel. I know not well where to begin. I have had the honour to be long in 431] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & the navy, which seems now charged with ignorance, cowardice, or corruption. I am willing to decline that service, and had I thought I could not have been serviceable to the government, tny own condition is so ca*y that I might have declined it. It is said, ‘ When the French came out, we ran away.’ These are hard things, and tnen will justify themselves from this hard imputation. We lay on the French coast six weeks, and, 1 believe, for the most part, not three leagues from Usliant. We lay there as long as weather would permit. We are accused of ‘ letting the Toulon squadron join the Brest/ We had no wav to know it but by scouts. There are foggy nights, weather, and winds, that carry us eight or ten leagues from thence. Nobody that served in the Fleet but was desirous to prevent this, as any gentleman here. I attribute this to misfortune only. Unless we should pull the French out of port by the ears, I know not how to have fought. I do aver this, that fifteen days after we left Brest, no ship came in there. I desire that either these things may be proved, or these reflections laid aside. Mr. Hampden. Nobody is more ready to redress Grievances than I, and I would have you take some way to redress your Grievances. I would have all persons speak without passion or reflections. In the Letters that were intercepted you find it said, That though it was a cold season, yet it was like to be hot weather in this house/ And nothing but personal reflections will do it. If you go and look back to Miscarriages, set your bounds how far you will go. I have never meddled with persons in this house for this 30 years. If you will look back, say how far. I know not whether the Fleet be weak or strong. That the French are too strong, is as much the cause as you too weak. Who would have thought of __ this formerly ? I say, this greatness came from the Pensioner-Parliament that sold their country. Their greatness arose from our treachery. That there is treachery now at sea, is the complaint; the reason, because there are too many Votes on the other side. Can a house, and a family, and all, be removed on a sudden ? There is something to be indulged in this. I never had employment nor money before. I have got nothing, only I desire quiet with iny neighbours. I do not only serve the king as my prince, but (pardon the mean expression) as one whom I love. Be pleased to agree what you would have done, without personal reflection. Col. Austen. It has been asked, To what time will you go back for enquiry into Miscarriages ?’ It has this answer — as far as the necessity of affairs will lead you. In a private family, if you entertain all those old servants that have ruined you before, what can you ex- Eect ? I remember Howe told you of awls and ristles in a shop; you would not think a painter but a shoe-maker was there. If you hope for better management, these journeymen, and their tools too, must be laid aside. Ma ry, 1689., — State of the Nation, [43 Sir John Trevor. The State of the Nation you are now to consider. Great mismanagements have been, whether by mistakes, misfortunes, or corruptions. We can have no remedy but from the king; therefore I would have the house moved to represent to the king the State of the Nation; and then you may come to the Heads, and the first moved to be voted the first. Head; and then whether any thing amiss in relation to the government, to bring it in, whether in the disposition of the Army, or the Fleet before Brest; and, in the last place, to offer your advice to the king how these things may be remedied. You need not call these things Grievances; they will be so manifest they will call themselves grievances. Howe would find something against these persons in the government; but to go back and ravel into, that will never have an end. I would not be hollowed off from one thing to another. It is the present State of the Nation’ is our business. Though we go several ways, yet all are for regulating affairs to keep out the French and the Irish. Till you have Reports, from Committees, of the several branches, I would adjourn the debate, and make report to the house of what you have done. Sir Tho. Lee. I am unwilling that these things which will naturally follow should be called Grievances. It is ns natural that trade be obstructed, as that you make war; and all you can do cannot prevent ships being taken. You may say as well, the French war is a Grievance. I will not conceal faults, nor say there are none, but I think the nation cannot bear the expence long. That which I move you is to search the Admiralty-books, and compute all, and then you will see how the Money went away. I stand up only that I would not have any outcry against the government. That which is done could not be helped. You are at war with one kingdom, and have another to conquer. I desire, whatever censure you pass, do it as it deserves, when you have examined all; if you make men unable td serve the king, you stop the war. I move, That you will appoint a Committee to search the Admirnlty-books for their orders, and numbers of ships, and sec the state of the ships, and then give your judgment. Mr. Elwill. It is a strange thing we should have so many ships at sea, and never meet any French ships; and it is strange doctrine to have so much loss by capers of six or ten guns; and if we cannot fortify ourselves against ca- pers, how shall we against men of war ? If the committee will enquire into the numbers of ships for stations, that will be your only way to secure trade. Sir Edw. Seymour. By the debate of the committee it is difficult for me to know in what manner to apply my discourse. I know not what ill-luck there is without doors, but I am sure we have it within, when there are personal reflections. Our treasures are spent and turn to little account, and those Mis- 433] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & carriages are repeated. It is said, Our ships are laken by privateers, and nut by men of war/ We had enough to have cleared our coasts, if they had been sent out to lie in a line of battle. We are told, We may repair to the Admiralty-books to he informed, &c/ If once we have loss of Trade for want of Convoy — You will V:e by the Admiralty-books what ships have been appointed for Guards. If we confirm these Miscarriages, we invite the same to be done next year. Because of the misfortune in another government, what did it occasion, but the loss of tha ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- you require it, it shall be done. The king paid the Arrears of the Army that came over to him from king James; they were 22, 230 men. They went from my care to Mr. Iiarbord: so that all paid me is about 360,000l. I am near the matter, clearing the Dutch and English armies. When the king came over, there was no standing privy-seal, and so no legal acquittances. Though you gave much the last session, yet not for the forces in England; for those in Holland and Ireland only. Mr. Suchcvcrcll.I hope Itanelagh will not take it ill if I ask him a question, or two. Whether an nriny of 40,000 men may not he maintained ? If it can be made out, that there • " One of the ablest men that Ireland has bred, capable of all nflairs, even in the midst of n loose run of pleasure, and much riot. He had the art of pleasing masters of very different tempers and interests so much, that he continued above tbiity years in great posts." Burnet. [438 never were 30,000 men, I would know, if there was not 1, 400,000l. spent, utid no army paid f Suppose 35,000 foot, at 2/. n head pay, officers and soldiers, that is 700,000l. Suppose there are 15,000 horse and dragoons, paid them ill 50/. a man, and that is not above 1, 500,000l. The year is gone about, and the Army not paid; I would know how that comes about ? The Earl of llanclugh.'I hope, that, by virtue of my memory, you will not put me to give account of every foot of things. When, the last session, the Account was called for, the charge was 1, 700,000l. per aim. Whether it was wrong cast up may he soon found out. Though we ull know the Muster-rolls are not complete, nor the Army paid, yet all through my management, is paid the English and Holland. Sir Tho. Clurgcs. You are told, the Charge was 50,000 men; that number, being never here, cannot come to 1, 400,000l. In the time of Cromwell, and kingCh. 2. the establishment of a trooper’s pay in Ireland was but 123£). — Defect of Ordnance. 43*)] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & Mary. chants. They may be in being, and the house not in being, and they feel the ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ert Rich. I have heard the whole matter, and ns for calling in the captain, you need not. Your member (Churchill) has owned the money. Capt. Churchill. I confess, I convoyed 22 of 44, and if I had forced money from one, I might have done it from others, and it was a voluntary gift from them. I acknowledge I received 150 guineas as a voluntary gift from them; and 1 compelled no man. Mr. Papillon. This is a thing of great consequence. I would not have this captain discouraged, nor the merchants abused; if they will give a gratuity, 'tis not extorted, but voluntary. Capt. Churchill told them, 4 If you will make it worth my while, I will go with you / of this there are three or four witnesses. If they had not made up this money, they must have lain by, (’twas a bargain,) their men were taken from them; if you do not something excmplaiy in this, you will ruin both seamen and merchants. Admiral Russell. Nobody more desires that criminals should be punished than myself. 1 know capt. Churchill to be zealous for the government. The thing, as it is alleged, appears ft- heinous crime. If these Merchants will run presently, and make Subscriptions, indeed I do not think capt. Churchill so much to blame. If he does not appear to be a great criminal, for his desert, and what he may do for the future, I hope you will inflict as moderate a punishment ns you can. Mr. Smith. I am sensible this gentleman has done you very good service, and is hearty for the government. This seems to be so clear l6S9» — Charge against Capt. Churchill [440 for your censure. He has made a modest confession of his fault, and if you can prevent this for the future, I would deal moderately with this gentleman. Sir Wm. Williams. I cannot agree to pass this over without a question, nor would I deal severely with your member. The thing has been fully proved at the bar. Some call it 4• free-will offering, or present/ 1 would come to this Resolution, ‘ That taking of Money for Convoys, by men of war, is a Grievance/ Sir Christ. Musgraxe. I think your honour is concerned, for capt. Paris has prevaricated with you, and you will lose your authority if you suffer it. Captain Paris was called in. Capt. Paris. 44 1 have now recollected myself. I petitioned lord Torrington for a Convoy; who answered, 4 If we would go to Torbay, he would take care of us/ Capt. Churchill came, in the Pendcnnis: I asked him, 4 Whether he was ordered for our Convoy He said, 4 He was hound for the Channel, but if it would be made worth his while, he would convoy us." Capt. Hill. 44 Paris put the question to Churchill, who said, 4 He had no order to convoy us/ Twenty-two sail of u* subscribed 201/. which he had. If it was worth his while (he said) he would go to the Downs with us." Capt. Churchill. 44 The offers from capt. Hill came a week after, 4 That if I would leave the Fleet, and convoy them, they would make the 200/. 400 guineas/ This, I hope, will, in some measure, justify me to the house, that I am not so very covetous." Mr. Coningsby.This is a fault, and a great one in Churchill, but I believe it an universal one; but because others have not been so modest as your member, I would prevent it for the future. Sir Edtc. Seymour. I do not at all approve that method to pass by your judgment upon those you have heard, and punish those you have not heard. You have heard the Examination, and an instance of your discipline and government of the Navy. I shall only say this, that this affair now coming before you, and influencing the whole matter of Trade, I do not wonder that it is not more plainly proved, but that it is so much proved. It is a hard thing to bring men before you with accusations of this kind, and if you leave them in a condition to be worried by those they accuse, you will never have more. These Miscarriages, arising from particular persons, endanger the government. They can get no Convoy from us, and they apply to the Dutch. When a gentleman came that had the reputation of a Convo ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'Right of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Right of the Subject ['Right of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nefit of the laws. Sir Th'y. Lee. Consider the consequence of receiving this Petition from the Jews. It is directly against an Aid; They desire not to be taxed, &c/ Pray let not such Petitions be received. You will not receive it from others, pray begin not with the Jews. Mr. Hampden, jun. My knowledge reaches not to that doctrine of receiving no Petition against an Aid; it is not for the honour of the house to receive such a Petition; it is a new way to me, that Aid should be petitioned against in granting. I never saw such a petition, nor such reasons to the contrary. Those Jews are subjects, in a large sense, and since it is urged as the right of subjects to petition, let them not have more right than the rest of subjects. Mr. Foley. I think, that, for the honour of the house, you are to hoar what they will say. Where you lay a general tax on a whole kingdom, you can receive no Petition against it, because all are represented here, but when there is a particular tax on men, they may petition. The Speaker. I never knew 51 Petition against a Bill before the house was seized of it. Sir Rd. Temple. You have heard petitions against a tax on Sugar and Tobacco, but they must not take notice of every Vote to ground a Petition upon, that is not parliamentary. Mr. Hampden. You have thought it neccs-aarv that the Money should be raised. I have a Bill in my hand; pray let it be read. Resolutions oh the Case Sir T. .] Th is day, the Case of sir Tho. Armstrong was again reported; upon which the house came to the following Resolutions, viz. 1. " That sir T. Armstrong’s PJea on the statute 5 Edw. 6. ought to have been admitted; and that the executing him upon the Attainder by outlawry was illegal, and a murder by pretence of law. 2. That the executors and heirs of the said sir T. Armstrong, ought to have reparation of their Losses out of the Estates of the four Judges and t'io prosecutors. 3. That a Writ of Error for reversal of a judgment in felony or treason, is the Right of the subject, and ought to be granted at his desire; and is not an act of grace or favour, which may be denied or granted at pleasure/’ — The bouse was then informed by the Committee appointed to examine this iniquitous Affair, that sir T. Armstrong’s real estate was 300/. per ann. and that iiis personal estate consisted of bonds, c. for ] 4.H00 I. and 3370 guineas, and an annuityof 500/. per ann. — Ordered, " That leave be given to bring in a Bill to reverse the attain- der of the said sir T. Armstrong, and to make Reparation to his widow and children out of the Estates of the Judges and Prosecutors, and that the Bill do pass without fees." Debate on the State of' the Nov. 23. The house went into a grand committee, on the State of the Nation, Mr. Grey in the chair. Mr. Papillon. Two things we are to consider; how the Money you have given has been spent, and how the Army and Navy have had no more. But of most effect is to consider the State of the Nation, to provide for the future. A great deal of Money has been given, but lias not answered the charge. We have a war in Ireland, and the French upon our coast. I would provide suitable provision for all. Sir Rob. Hozcard. I should be glad to ha instructed by gentlemen to come to particulars. Melancholy complaints will do us no service, and, seconded with sighs, tend to no other effect, than that the Regency’ was good advice. I will let generals pass, and offer particular remedy, which calls upon you for redress; that is, in the case of your Forces. As you have heard, on the muster-rolls, there has been 70 men in a company, and it is well if there be 40. Now Money must be considered, that it may be to save you. If 10,000 inen be pretended in Holland, and there are not 4,000 — the business is to make an end of the War, and not to teach the Irish to fight bj land, as we have taught the French to fight by sea.. Therefore I move you to make a present inspection into this, and a strict one. I w'ould have members of the house employed, both in Ireland and here, and every where, that by this deceit we be not brought to ruin. If officers be underpaid, remedy that. What I move, is, to send presently into Ireland. The business of Popery is now out of doors. King William is king of this people, and this people’s king/ This must be presently inspected. Sir Tho. Clarges. A great part of this motion has been already answered, of sending persons into Ireland; so far, I think, we are on the way. I doubt not but the king, for his own preservation, as well as ours, will not pay men in chimrera, but certain; as you give Money to support the government, to save all unnecessary expence. Thereto; e I would address the king to take away that Charge in Holland of a month. By the best en-quiryT can make, we are under no obligation, by Alliances. Mr. Godolphin. What is offered, is proper in due time; but if the men step ashore before the ship be at anchor, she will be apt to run a-drift. Before I come to particulars, I shall offer something general abroad and at home. In respect to the government, and the people, there must be an Aid to carry on the war we are engaged in, not by a short Act to collect Money only, but something to rely on for your security. For home, I would consider Religion ami Trade. The Courts of Justice are well 44, 7] filled, and that is one remedy. For trade, there is little but what supplies your enemies to your disadvantage. For Religion, I think there is more than enough. But upon all accounts, that concern Religion, I think the Church of England too much discountenanced, who have supported you by their learned writings. I would do something to enlarge on Protestant bottoms; but I will postpone this consideration till a more convenient season. For Trade, whilst you are defending yourselves, the commou enemy runs away with your Trade. For Grievances, as the Charters, &c. I am of the same opinion I was of the last session, for an Act of Indemnity from the king, to give him all the grace of it, to unite against the common enemy. Your enemies are either of France, or from France. The French king’s Revenue is 116,000,000 of livres, and he has 200,000 men in pay; his kingdom well fortified; his arsenals well stored, and a great force by sea; they have met the English and Dutch Fleets in conjunction. It behoves the house to think how we shall deal with such a formidable enemy, to consider our allies, and to know how far Holland, in particular, will go to suppress this Navy of France. I remember the Pyrenean Treaty; what will it signify to give up Burgundy, and Luxembourg, &c. ? I think we are not secure unless we destroy the French Navy. I move, therefore, to know how far Holland will join in suppressing the power of France. Sir John Guise. One of the Dutch ambas- sadors told me, That the Dutch would pawn their shirts to go on with the war/ I am not for going hack therefore. Certainly it is natural for you to consider from whence the ill government came, and to prevent it for the future; and, I hope, we may raise the English nation, and the reputation of it, again. If there be ill management, it must be from those in employment. Either they must manage no more, and you must apply to the king to take care of it, or take care of it yourselves, by yourselves, by the king’s permission. My motion is, to consider and report what is the occasion of these Miscarriages, and calculate what are the Charges of your Land-Forces, and that you will employ people of your own, if you sec occasion, to depend upon. Debate on Abuses in Victualling the Fleet.] Sir Robert Napier gave the house an Account of a Letter he had received. * Mr. Hampden, sen. This information is not impossible, in nature, to be true, but morally impossible. I cannot believe so much barba- * This Letter was from Plymouth, to one Rice, from his son there, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ho had spoken so hardly of it here, would not favour it there.* I am not so fond of my own opinion, as not only to relinquish it, but obey you contrary to my own sense. I would not only relinquish the service of the Council, but retire, if you think not well of me. Sir Henry Cupel. I will put that gentleman at ease presently. There shaTl be no misre* presentation from me. Witnesses do know the rule they go by. Whoever is of the parliament, and near the person of the king, represent with all tenderness, and put the best face of things from hence to the king. I hope this will be the rule of every man, and shall be mine whilst I live. Col. Austen. Heat never does business well. Let a man’s sense be what it will, he ought to deliver it as the sense of the house, and not his owo. Go unanimously to the king, and let this debate fall. Sir Francis Blake. A privy-counsellor told us, That what the king said in his closet, was sent to king James in brandy-bottles/ You ought to examine those who manage affairs, and are near business. I name Mr. Blaithwayte. This debate went off, and a Committee was inted to prepare the Address, ajor Wiidman acquainted the house, That his majesty, having been attended with their Address for securing Commissary Shales, and his Accounts and Papers, was pleased to give this answer: " That he had some time since taken order therein, being informed of the said capt.Shales’s Misdemeanors in his employment; and had written to duke Schomberg lor that purpose And that his majesty was pleased farther to add, " That he verily believed, what was desired was already effectually done; though, the wind being contrary, he had not, as yet, received any account thereof from Ireland." Nov. 28. C’apt. Churchill, in a Petition, acknowledged his Offence; and prayed to be restored to the favour of the house, and to be enlarged from the Tower, which was granted. Debate on a Clause in the Bill of Nov. 29. Sir Tho. Clarges. I ask your pardon if I speak against the liberty of the subject. I have contributed to this Revolution, and have suffered for it. I 6ent my son to the prince of Orange, at Exeter, at great expence. Those who sue for horses and arms taken from them, have done nothing but according to law. I discommend much their malice; but, upon pretence of service to the prince of Orange, some have plundered very honest men. To have their names brought hither that have prosecuted, will increase animosities, and may do hurt. Fortify yourselves as well as you can, but name no persons. But actions, in the art, \6S9. — of Commissary Shales. [462 former Act of Indemnity, were discharged. I desire you will do so now. Sir Henry Capel. I cannot blame any man for seeking for right, when wrong has been done him. I am for the question. I take it to be a great imprudence, boldness, and insolence against the present government, now the house of commons is sitting, and making an Act of Indemnity, whilst this is depending, for men to bring actions, &c. I fear there are some ill spirits that countenance one another to do mischief. Since such a motion is made, I would not let it fall flat. I remember not such impatience nor complaint formerly, when Ch. 2. was restored; why should they uot have the same respect to this parliament, as to others ? We shall have them dispute the Militia, and dispute the Tax, and have the frame of government torn in pieces. We have enemies abroad and at home, and I hope you will put the question. Sir Tho. Lee. I am sorry, and suspect myself, when I differ from a friend. The rights of the people, and the guardianship of the Indemnity is in king, lords, and commons; not in this house alone. When men see actions at law fruitless, they will not spend their money. Direct a Bill to be brought in, and that is better than a Vote. The rights of parliament are enough. Pray let us take no more jurisdiction upon us than our ancestors. Mr. Howe. It seems strange to me, that those who have broken all your laws, and subverted religion in t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- or have nn ill life. I have not the same advantage of speaking as other gentlemen, but you know my meaning. This is no hard thing upon the king; things taken in time are easily understood, and all is well when once those about the king represent them well. They may scramble for Money for the king, and we for our Privileges, as has been done formerly; but as for your Address, I would not lay it aside, but that half a dozen gentlemen wait on the king, and make not this little thing of Shales’s too great a solemnity; but I would lay before the king the Miscarriages by land und sea. If the king would do nothing, it looks as if those about hitn would asperse the government, and do nothing to cure it. Unless Miscarriages be represented by land and sea, nothing, no, nothing, can cure it. Let, then, some gentlemen (not to come to the persons, but every one of them, not only the putting in these Officers) show what we have done at sea, and spent 1, 300,000l. and w hat has been done in Ireland, how we have taught them to be soldiers, who were cowards before. I move for the Address. Serjeant Maynard. That there are more than a Shales in this I doubt not, both a great and a tall man. But I am for going on upon this Shales, else we shall blow the deer, and he will go into the herd. They that besiege the king will oppose all Addresses. If you would break a faggot, break the sticks one by one; when a kingdom, nay, a king, is like to be lost, and make us alt beggars. When this Address is presented, the king cannot but think it reasonable; a person that has so notoriously and wickedly demeaned himself! You have only Shales now; much more may be added hereafter. In the mean time go on with Shales. Shall wc give our money to we know not whom ? When Shales is gone, it may be another in his place as bad as he: therefore go to ail you can find out. Mr. Foley. It is said, Shales is o little man/ but we know not what great man recommended him. To say, We should stay till we had all our Grievances, to make a Remonstrance of them together/ that is much harder. I am dis-satisfied to stay till all Grievances are enumerated; at that rate, we can never come to any body, and we shall be quite undone, till the king and we be all on a bottom. Sir Wm. L. Gozcer. I am for taking out all the deer in this king’s park that were in king James’s park. Since it must be a general Address, let it be a Remonstrance to take in every thing by land and sea. Be pleased to recommit this Address, and let none but a Protestant breed of deer be left, and recommit the Address upon the debate. Sir DuncombeColchester. you turn out the deer, it will do you no good, unless you Vol, V, turn out the keeper too. (Said some, Does be mean the king ?*) Sir Robert Rich. You were told, 'You have sat several days upon the State of the Nation to little effect more, than that you have found out the Navy and Army were betrayed /* if that be little, I know not what is greater. It is said, ' Shales is sent for out of Ireland but if you do not know who advised to take him into employment, you do nothing. A general Address is none at all. You are moved to commit the Address; in my opinion, that is to give it a decent interment. If the king know neither the keeper, nor the park, we must be plain with him. Mr. Hawles. You find the nation betrayed, and you know not by whom. I believe, that, at common law, the suggestion why a person is employed is to be expressed in his patent, Ed. 3. c. i. because the king granted many pardons, the persons who suggested them were to be expressed. I think the common law was so. Now, instead of ex certA scientid, it is es mero motu. This could not be a ground unless with a Non obstante. But since this is not pur- sued, it is not an unusual thing to ask this question in the Address. I think it net a crime to recommend an ill man, but to know him an ill man, is. It is said, We should not do what one gentleman would not do to another/ It is not the end of governments to punish, but by misfortune they must do it. At Court-Lcets they swear to discover all injuries done to the lord, 6cc, If my pocket be picked, it is not civil for.me to enquire who aid it! Is this a way of arguing ? Here is no hardship on the king; it has been done so before; it has been put upon Ed. 3. and Hen. 4. Those were great men in that time, and this may make this king great in this. Sir Rd. Temple. In what Ilawles says of Pardons he may be in the right, but not in the Grants. I would follow the method of our ancestors, respondeat superior, when under the conduct of another man. In an Army a general must find whom he employs, &c. I would recommit the Address, and represent all Miscarriages. Sir Edw. Seymour. I %vas one of those against the Address, but when you have resolved, it is not to be laid aside by art. A man of art is so near a man of something else, that I desire not to be the man. Gentlemen say they would have it recommitted, but I hear no reason given for it. That is against all methods. By the same argument, all other Ad- dresses may be committed again and again, and that is, a decent interment/ as a gentleman called it. When we debate a thing over and over, 1 know not but that, instead of reforming Grievances, we shall be grievances to ourselves. This may be done, and grievances not left undone. If that be so hard upon you, not to remedy it, you will send your trade back to Amsterdam, and bring their religion instead of it. Assign any particular, he. but it is an inexcusable levity to do all 8 H 467] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William Sc Mary, l6S<). — |4<>S this against order. I would not (as has been moved) have the body of the house go with this Address: we can do no more when \vc* present all our Grievauces. This is but a pimple, but a scab of your disease. That one person should draw a whole house, never — Reserve yourselves for a greater occasion. And as it is too little for you to present in a body, so it is too big for a particular person, as has been moved. The Address was agreed to, nnd the Committee who prepared it, was ordered to present it. The King's Message for a Commission to be sent into Ireland.J Nov. 30. Mr. Comptroller Whnrton delivered the following Message from his majesty: 14 W. 11. Ii is majesty, having already declared his resolutions to prosecute the War in Ireland with the utmost vigour, and being desirous to use the means that may be most satisfactory and effectual in order to it, is graciously pleased, that this house do recommend a number of persons, not exceeding seven, to be commissioned by his majesty to take care of the Provisions, and such other preparations as shall be necessary for that service. — His majesty is farther pleased to let the house know, That upon consideration of the Address of Nov. 11, he gives them leave to nominate some persons to go over into Ireland, to take an Account of the number of the Army there, and the State and Condition of it; who shall receive his majesty’s orders accordingly . * Col. Austen. If ever thanks were due, it is now. The king grants before you ask, or if you had asked, you could not have mended it yourselves. A man in his state without asking; This is of so great consequence, that I would give particular Thanks, and that very signally, by the whole house. Sir itob. ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- majesties, then called and known by the names and stile of William and Mary, Prince and Princess of Orange, being present in their proper persons, a certain Declaration in writing, made by the said lords and commons, in the words following; viz. * Whereas the late king James the 2nd by the assi'ianre of divers evil counsellors, 4 Judges and Ministers employed by lam, did 1 endeavour to subvert and extirpate the Pro- ' * testaut Religion, and the laws and liberties of this kingdom. 1. By assuming and exer-< rising a power of dispensing with and suspending of laws and the execution of laws, ‘ without consent of parliament. 2. By committing and prosecuting divers worthy prelates, for humbly petitioning to be excused * from concurring to the said assumed power. 4 3. By issuing and causing to be executed a 4 commission under the great seal for erecting * a court called, The Court of Commissioners * for Ecclesiastical Causes. 4. By levying mo-‘ ney for and to the use of the crown, by pretence of prerogative, for other time, and in (other manner, than the same was granted by parliament. 5. By raising and keeping a 4 Standing Army within this kingdom in time ‘ of peace, without consent of parliament, and * quartering soldiers, contrary to law. 6. By ‘ causing several good subjects, being Protest- * ants, to be disarmed, at the same time when Papists were both armed and employed, con- tr; wy to law. 7. By violating the freedom of election of members to serve in parliament. 4 8. By prosecutions in the court of King’s- bench, for matters and causes cognizable only in parliament; and by divers other arbitrary and illegal courses. 9. And whereas of late years, partial, corrupt, and unqualified persons, have been returned and served on. 4 juries in trials, and particularly divers jurors in trials for High Treason, which were not freeholders. 10. And excessive bail hath been required of persons committed in criminal cases, to elude the benefit of the laws made for the liberty of the subjects. 11. And 4 excessive fines have been imposed; and ille — 4 gal and cruel punishments inflicted. 12. And 4 several grants and promises made of fines and forfeitures, before any conviction or judgement against the persons, upon whom the same were to be levied. All which are utterly and directly contrary to the known laws and statutes, and freedom of this realm. ’ 44 And whereas the said late king James the 2nd having abdicated the government, and the throne being thereby vacant, his highness the prince of Orange (whom it hath pleased Almighty God to make the glorious instrument of delivering this kingdom from Popery and arbitrary power) did (by the advice of the lords spiritual and temporal, and divers principal persons of the commons) cause letters to be written to the lords spiritual and temporal, being Protestants; and other letters to the several counties, cities, universities, boroughs, and cinque-ports, for the choosing of such persons to represent them, ns were of right to be sent to parliament, to meet and sit at Westminster upon the 22nd day of January in this year 1683, in order to such an establishment, as that their religion, laws, and liberties might not again be iu danger of being subverted:Upon which letters, elections having been accordingly made, And thereupon the said lords spiritual and temporal, and commons, pursuaut to theif 485] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William & respective letters and elections, being no«v assembled in a full and free representative of this nation, taking into their most serious consideration the best means for attaining the ends aforesaid; do in the first place (as their ancestors in like case have usually done) for the vindicating and asserting their antient rights and liberties, declare; * 1. That the pretended power of suspending ‘oflaws, or the execution of laws, by regal * authority, without consent of parliament, is * illegal. 2. That the pretended power of dis- * pensing with Ians, or the execution of laws, (by regal authority, as it hath been assumed * and exercised of late, is illegal. 3. That the ‘ Commission for erecting the late Court of ‘ Commissioners fur Ecclesiastical Causes, and ‘ail other Commissions and courts of like ‘ nature, are illegal and pernicious. 4. That * levying money for or to the use of the crown, by * pretence of prerogative, without grant of par- * 1 lament, for longer time, or in other mnnner * than the same is or shall be granted, is illegal. 4 5. That it is the light of the subjects to peti-1 tion the king, and all commitments and pro- * secutions for such petitioning- arc illegal. 6. ‘ That the raising or keeping a standing army within the kingdom in tune of peace unless it ‘ be with consent of parliament, is against law. * 7. That the subjects which are Protestants, * may have arms for their defence suitable to * their conditions, and os allowed by law. 8. ‘ That election of members of parliament ought ‘ to be free. 9. That the freedom of speech * and debates or proceedings in parliament, ‘ ought not to be impeached or questioned in * any court or place out of parliament. 10. ‘ That excessive bail ought not to be required, ‘ nor excessive fines imposed; nor cruel and ‘ unusual punishments indicted. 11. That ju- * rors ought to be duly impanelled and returned; ‘ and jurors which pass upon men in trials for ‘ High Treason ought to be freeholders. 12. ‘ That all grants and promises of fines and for- * feitures of particular persons before convic- * tion, are illegal and void. 13. And that for ‘ redress of all grievances, and for the amend-‘ ing, strengthening, and preserving of the laws, * parliaments ought to be held frequently. " And they do claim, demand, and insist upon all and singular the premises, as their undoubted rights and liberties; and that no declarations, judgments, doings, or proceedings, to the prejudice of the people in any of the said premises, ought iu any wise to be drawn hereafter into consequence or example. To which demand of their rights they are particularly encouraged by the declaration of his highness the prince of Orange, as being the oniy means for obtaining a full redress and remedy therein. Having therefore an entire confidence, that his said highness the prince of Orange will perfect the deliverance so far advanced by him, and will still preserve them from the' violation of their rights, which they have here asserted, and from all other attempts upon their religion, rights, and liberties; Mart, 1689. — Thr. Bill of Rig 2. The said lords spiritual and1 temporal, and commons -assembled at Westminster, do resolve, That William and Mary prince and princess of Orange be, and be declared, king and queen of England, France, and Ireland, and the dominions thereunto belonging, to hold the crown and royal dignity of the said kingdoms and dominions to them the said prince and princess during their lives, and the life of 1 lie survivor of them; and that the sole aad full exercise of the regal power be only in, and executed by the said prince of Orange, in the names of the said prince and princess, during their joint lives; and after their deceases, the said crown and royal dignity of the said kingdoms and dominions to be to the heirs of the body of the said princess, and for default of such issue to the princess Anne of Denmark, and the heirs of her body; and for default of such issue to the heirs of the body of the said prince of Orange. And the lords spiritual and temporal, and commons, do pray the suid prince ami princess to nccept the same accordingly ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ney must be gone by the Abdication, you needed not to have made an Act to take it away. If you continue the words mid no longer, * I fear, they will not only affect the crown, but the subjects too, tlmt have hail Grants. Sir Wm.Williams. To stop the mouths of people, we are providing laws against ill men, and fur ill times, and therefore it was thought convenient to put in the words and no longer.* As to the new Revenue, the Customs and Excise, some part of the revenue follows the crown, a9 the shadow the body; but to say, therefore, all the revenue does so, is no consequence. Qualify that supposed Hereditary Revenue from the other, and I agree to it. Says Pulteney, 4 This may shake Grants; * but if they be good grants by cominon-law, or statute-law, it shakes no more but what you would have shaken. Mr. Finch. I rise up to acquaint vou how I apprehended the Revenue to he fn 1688. When you come to say, 4 That the Revenue shall be collected for one year, and no longer/ you determine the Hereditary Revenue. I think we have declaration upon declaration, and that matter is pretty well at peace in you. If you put in the words for one year, and no longer, ’ you determine it. In the Chimney-Bill, if the Revenue had determined, you needed not that Act. If the Court of Wards was an hereditary revenue, then that granted in lieu of the Court of Wards, must be an hereditary revenue. Thompson says, 4 No man will say, the Court of Wards was part of the king’s revenue / but it is the king’s tenure, and 4*)l] PARL. HISTORY, 1 William he has the profit of the lands and wards. For taking away the Grants upon the Revenue, he is for taking away the Revenue wholly. Sir Tho. Lee. I would willingly have the long robe inform us, whether those Grants for Cb. 2.’a and James’s life, continue for the king’s life ? If each of them subsist, this Act is wholly unnecessary. As to what Finch says of the Chimney Money, why did the parliament, 3Ch. 1. mention ‘ Quartering of soldiers, ’ in the Petition of Right ? I would make use of this debate. If any of them be out, all are out. The Court of Wards, which was exchanged, was ancient in the crown, hut I question whether the crown had a right to dispose of wardships before they fall. Air. Finch. In the Petition of Right, one part is declaring an old law, and another is making a new. The king grants a wardship cum accident, and that answers Lee. Sir George Treby.To these words No longer.' The operation of these two words is to take away all the inheritance of the crown. To answer Lee’s question, the king might release the tenures of inheritance of profit, that he had by the tenure, as he did wardships to the town of Yarmouth. If the king can grant this, he may grant what is in lieu of it. In the former bill, which is the pattern of this, there was some scruple made, whether they could safely collect it, (as if it was a new thing that, kings have abdicated, and given up their crown before death.) All the nicety was upon collecting the Customs and Excise ‘ during king James’s life.’ Some were for the political life, others for the natural; this had some doubt for the sake of the otiicers, and therefore the Act was entitled, 4 For the better collecting the Public Revenue.’ It was said, and with great approbation, 4 We have Judges for life, and salaries, tic. how could that be, if it was not supposed the Revenue was not hereditary ?’ You go on, and say, 4 The king had not only delivered you from Popery and slavery, but you yielded to give the king thunks, for releasing the Chimney Money.’ The appropriating some of the Revenue to pay Ch. 2.’s servants, and the Money to the States General, by it you suppose the subsisting of the Revenue, and you applied it to these uses. All prerogatives and advantages whatsoever follow the crown, and if they have the crown, they have all that belong to the crown. I think it strange, when a hill is brought in to satisfy a doubt, w hen, indeed, there was none; but to grant a Revenue, and charge it when you have done — will you determine the w hole Revenue without hearing counsel for the king ? Sir IF. Williams. Certainly some part of the Revenue is not alienable, and, no doubt, on the other side, the king may extinguish his Wardships, by a release; but ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- change his first design into another better resolution, of going over in person into Ireland, to put an end to the war there. The queen knew nothing of the first design, so reserved was the king to her in a matter that concerned lier so nearly. The king’s intention Protest thereon.] Memorandum, Ttyat the lords following, before the putting of the above* said question, desired leave to enter their Dissents if the question was carried in the affirmative, and accordingly they do enter their dissents as follow: — " 1. That there hath been only two cases cited, in all the law books, towards the maintaining the Surrender of Corporations, viz. Dyer 273, 282. The opinions in these cases are not upon argument, the first of them, as appears by the Book, needed, and had an act of parliament to confirm it, being denied to be law, in my lord Coke’s third report, in the dean and chapter of Norwich’s Case, 44 Eliz. The other of them denied to be law by the judges of the King’s-bench in Fulcher and Heywood’s Case in 2 Ch. 1. in Palmer’s Reports; and by the express Resolution of the Judges in that case a Corporation cannot, by surrender, dissolve itself. 2. Because that Beda, in the time of Hen. 5. and the corporation of Newbury, did surrender to that king, which was not allowed U but the house of commons called upon them to send up members, notwithstanding the said surrender; and, until they petitioned the said house, setting forth their inability of support-, ing that charge, they were not excused; but the house allowed their petition, and they have sent none since. 3. The Surrenders in debate being for the intent and purpose of returning such parliamentmen whom the king should appoint, was for the subversion of the laws and liberties of England, and introducing of Popery and arbitrary government; and that the putting out these words seems to be the justifying of the most horrid action that king James was guilty of during his reign; and we humbly conceive, a denying the chiefest grievance mentioned in king William’s Declaration when he was prince, and the greatest inducement for the people’s taking up arms in defence of their liberties and properties, and Protestant religion, and the establishing this king upon the throne. (Signed) Bolton, Herbert, Macclesfield, Bedford, Ashburnham •, Montagu, Vaughan, Stamford, Sidney." of going to Ireland, appeared by the preparations, that were ordered; but a great party was formed in both houses to oppose it. Some really apprehended, that the air of that country would be fatal to so weak a constitution; and the ja-cobites had no mind, that king James should be so much pressed, as he would probably be, if the king went against him in person. It was by concert proposed in both houses on the same day, to prepare an Address to the king against this voyage:so the king, to prevent the Address, came to the parliament, and acquainted both houses with his resolution of going in person to Ireland, ‘ and as I have’ says he, already ventured my life for the preserv ation of the religion, laws and liberties of this nntion, so I am willing again to expose it, to secure you the quiet enjoyment of them." Tindal. * John Ashbumham, esq. created baron Ashbumham May 30, 1689. |$9] PARL. HIST. 1 William & Mary, The King's Speech at the Prorogation."] Jon. 2.7. The king came to the house of peers, and gave the royal assent to the Poll-bill; to the Hill to prevent vexatious Suits against such as acted in order to the bringing their majesties to the bill for the better security and relief of Irish Protestantsand three private bills. After winch he made the following Speech: u My lords and gentlemen; I am so sensible of the readiness you have shewed to supply me with Money for the carrying on the war I am engaged in, that 1 am glad of this occasion to gi\e you thanks for your chearful dispatch of that matter, which wras absolutely necessary lor the common safety. The best return I can make to your kindness is, to assure you, that, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f any officer be to blame, let him be named. Whether Money has been well employed, or no, I cannot answer that; but let not that be an objection. Name any body to enquire into the ill PAUL. HISTORY, 2 William & Mart, on the Supply. 567] PARL. HISTORY, 2 William & Mary-, 16. — Supply. [568 usage; but, as for the great charge of military affairs, I know nothing of that; but if you think persons undermine the government, and waste the treasury, you are to give the king counsel as well as money. This way of communication is the way to end all differences and jealousies, amongst friends. I have ever had a great reverence for the house of commons; so I have lived, and so I shall die, a faithful commoner of England. But, after all, will you support the government? I know you will support it. You have sent the king your Vote, and carried it solemnly; but, on the other side, if these objections be any thing, your government will fall of itself: If you say, you will suj»-port it, do support it. If any objection of Mismanagement remain, remove them that have been faulty. If you let it lie in suspense, none <5f these objections will save the government from falling. - I humbly move, and desire all gentlemen to consider, that, seeing the calamities that will attend the loss of the government, which every gentleman may figure to himself — What will It avail to say, that you are cozened, and, if you give more, you shall be cozened? But are you the better for saving your Money, if Ireland be lost, perhaps England too? Popery, French, and Irish, to dwell among you, nntf govern you; and saving the Taxes will be but cold comfort at last, to say, ‘ I have saved 100/. in tuxes, and perhaps my estate will be sequestered, or worse; I must either renounce my religion, or lose it/ What I aim at is this, that Money must be given, and speedily given, and by no way but by a Fund; and not any of the consequences, but you may prevent afterwards; else you will be too late, and have another distemper upon you to cure. When you go into a committee, do it speedily; and, whatever Credit, give it a sound Credit. You will be here suddenly again, and may enquire into the management. Sir John hmother. I doubt not but gentle- men take into consideration the condition of their bleeding country. Under Heaven, there can be no assistance but from this house. I would to God, gentlemen would believe that some men intend sincerely, and tell you truth ! As for the profits of my employment, they have not paid my house-rent, and I care not if’ they ever do more; and if my service be acceptable, I am more than over-rewarded. Gentlemen that have ventured their lives and estates, as 1 have done, upon a change, must suffer in the common calamity. There is no Money in the treasury, except the appropriated Money. I know not of one shilling in the treasury. Upon Stating your Expences as near as I can, I freely own the establishment is greater than the nation can bear. This unhappiness might have been prevented by the last house of commons, if you had represented that the nation could not bear the establishment. I presume xve did not think it so, and would have supplied it. I am of opinion, that it is too great an ex pence; but I believe no gentleman has retrenched one dish at his table, or one servant in his family. (Then he gave an account of the Charge of the Nary.) So formidable a sum is needful, that I dare not mention it; but I hope gentlemen will be so kind, in their advice, as to direct us in the retrenching, that they may approve of it when you meet next. Deductions must be nllowed for all things, as Deserters, false Musters, 6tc. and I will hope that Forfeitures may do a great deal in Ireland; and the Fleet is not paid till they come home; but, in the mean time, stores must be supplied. 1 hope gentlemen, therefore, will assist in the retrenchments. I believe, in any country, they would first consider what must be necessary for their own preservation. In my poor opinion, I t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- cers shall have assignments for their debts, and pay 7 per cent, interest? and then consider how interest eats out; and, besides, by great rates for wares; and in this method, who knows how to support the government? Therefore, before you grant the money, consider the ways of raising it. Sir Jute, A Williamson. The gentleman under the gallery, speaking of the Revenue, seemed to say, That the Revenue might bear it; ' but made no direct motion. 1, 400,000l. after so much money given, is a great sum; but, whatever the sum, it is to make all the rest good, our rel gion and properties, &c. Far be it from ns to think that sum will undo us. He thut you have to do with, will be brought to reason sooner by this house, than by all the money you can raise. This is a great sum, and it is hard to lay it, yet it is not impossible. If that of the Revenue had been a little better opened, you might have gone on more easily:I must give all my help to that question moved. Perhaps I should not refuse to give my consent to this; bat it has been scarce seen that so much expence has brought so little honour and advantage to the nat.on. I look back with astonishment ! I have served near the throne, where there have been cross biasses in affairs; but when we have a prince who will think it for his service to enquire into managements, I hope they will be put in such a way that we shall not do it again. Put the enquiry into someway, and when you come back, go through it. As to my way of absolving myself in my own duty, I shall give my affirmative to the question of 700,000l. Mr. Etlrick. I would give what will do the ary, 1690. — Debate on the Supply. [570 work: If not done this year, it will not be the next. I propose 1, 300,000l. Sir John Guise. We see the word ‘ towards’ is come to snmetliing more. You are now coma to a sum of Money proposed. 1 speak plainly: If there be any gentleman who has denied to* day, that things have been driven to a necessity. I’ll tell you from whence this Grievance does proceed; that people do not own the counsels they have given; the visible part of the privy council, is any about the king that had a hand in the Charters? If by that way our misfortunes have come, it ought to be rectified. In queen Elizabeth’s time, no man was ashamed to own his own counsels; she had the privy council’s advice and consent in all things; and if we give to supply what Mismanagements have cost us, We do our duty to our country. Sir W. L. Gower. I hope we shall not only empty their pockets that have cheated us, but squeeze th*ir veins of their blood, for the ill things they have done. I move for the greatest sum. Sir John Thompson. A million is as much as you can raise, give what you will; therefore I move for it. Sir Tho. Lee. I agree with the gentleman that moved for a million; but I would be satisfied how it can answer the occasion; that is all the difficulty with me. Land is already taxed largely. Don’t give less, that you may live upon credit. I would not have the whole security of England be it the pleasure of a few men, whom you borrow from. The Army is to be paid monthly, and that will take up all the first money:the poor seamen will be unpaid. Parliaments do not desire to come muen before Michaelmas. The committee divided, and the million/ passed in the negative. Resolved, " That it is the opinion of this committee, that a sum not exceeding 1, 200,000l. be the Supply to be giv^n to their majesties, for the public occasions, Dctweeu this and Michaelmas, in prosecuting the War against France^ and reducing of Ireland with speed and vigour.’! — Which was agreed to by the bouse. April 2. Sir W. Strickland moves for instructions to the committee, ‘ That the Supply be not raised upon Land Tax. ' Col. Austen, on Mr. Hampden’s setting forth the necessity of Supply, said, You have now two necessities, Money and Land; and give me leave to offer a third, the people’s living. He that docs not faithfully advise the king, is not a good subject ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Criminall (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'criminall' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s) to be a sufficient reason to allow the authority of parliament, notwithstanding the same, or other defects io Krint of form; as the parliament which set enry 1. and king Stephen on the throne; the parliament held 28 Edw. 1. the parliament summoned by the prince of Wales 20 Edw. 2. and warm debate. The Tories offered to enact, that these should he all good laws for the time to come, but opposed the doing it in the declaratory wuy. They said, that it was one Of the fun tinmen tills of our constitution, that no assembly could be called a parliament unless it was called and chosen upon the king’s writ. On the other hand it was said, that whatsoever tended to the culling the authority of that parliament in question, tended likewise to the weakening of the present government, and brought the king’s title into question. That a real necessity, upon such extraordinary occasions, must supersede forms of law; ot lienvise i he present government was under the same nullity. That forms were only rules for peaceable times; but in such a juncture, w hen all that had a right to come, either in person, or by their representatives, were summoned and freely elected; and when, by the king’s consent, the Convention was turned into a parliament, the essentials, both with relation to the king and peopie, were still maintained in the constitution of that parliament. After a long debate the uct passed in the house of lords with this temper, declaring and enacting that the acts of the C onvention-Parliament were and are good and valid." Tindal. Mart, 1690. — Bill of Re. [576 * the parliament summoned 23 R. the parliament held 1 Henry 6. and the parliament held 28 Henry 6. the acts of which parliaments have been held for law. 9. Because the rejecting this Clause must necessarily disturb the minds of the greatest part of the kingdom, for if those be not good laws, all commissioners, assessors, collectors and receivers of the late taxes, are not only subject to private actions, but to be criminally prosecuted for one of the highest offences against the constitution of the Engi.sh government, viz. the levying Money on the subject without lawful authority; till persons who have lent money, upon the credit of those laws, will be in dread of their security, and impatient to get in their money; all persons concerned in levying the present taxes will be fear-fut to proceed; ail persons who have accepted any offices or employments ecclesiastical, civil or military, will lie under the apprehension of having incuried all the terrible forfeitures anddisa-bihtics of the Act of 25 Ch. 2. c. 2. nnd all who have any way concurred to the condemnation or execution of any person upon any act of the late parliament, wiii think themselves in danger of being called to an account for murder. 3. Because to leave a doubt touching the validity of the last parliament, is to shake all the judgments and decrees given in the house of peers, or in Westminster-Hall, during this reign; and to bring a question upon the whole course of judicial proceedings. 4. Because if the authority of the last parliament be not put out of the question, the authority of the present parliament can never be defended, for the statute of 5 Eliz. c. 1. makes the election of every member of the house of commons absolutely void, if he enters into the house without taking the Oath of Supremacy, which no one person having done, there an end of this house of commons: and by the statute made 30 Car. 2. if any peer or member of the house of commons presume to sit nnd vote without first taking the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy, before the Speaker of the respective houses, lie does not only forfeit 500/. and become a Popish Recusant, and disabled to take a legacy, to hold any office or place of trust, to prosecute any suit, to be a guardian, executor or administrator, but is made for ever incapable to sit and vote in either house of parliament; and consequently this can be no parliament, nor any who have sat in eit ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- , it appears that we have protested against the whole Bill, which is contrary to our sense and intentions. (Signed) Nottingham, J. Jerroyn, H. London, Tho. Menev ', Ed. Wigom’, P. Winchester, Hum. Bangor, Westmoreland, Chandos, ’Abingdon, W. Asaph." Debate on reversing the Judgment in a Quo Warranto against the City of London.*] April 8. • "The violence and. injustice with which the election of Sheriffs (in 1682) was carried by the court, shewed that they were resolved, by fair or foul means, to liave the government of the city in their own hands. But, because they would not be at this trouble, nor run this hazard every year, it was resolved, that the Charter of the City must either be given up, or be attyudged to the king. The former was much the easier way; so great pains were taken to manage the next election of the Common Council, so as that they might be tractable in this point. But after all the practices of the court, in the returns of the Common Council of the City, they could not bring it near an equality for delivering up their Charter. The court, finding that the city could not be .wrought on to surrender their Charter, resolved to have it condemned, by a judgment in the King’s-bench. Jones had died in May; so now Pollexfen mid Treby were chiefly relied on by the city in this matter. Sawyer was the attorney general, a dull hot man, and he undertook, by the advice of Sauiv-ders, a learned but a very immoral man, to over-tlirow the Charter. The two points upon which they rested the cause.were, 4 That the Common Council had petitioned the king, upon a prorogation of parliament, that it might meet on the day to which it was prorogued, and had taxed the prorogation as that which had occasioned a delay of justice.’ This was construed to be the raising sedition, ftnd the possessing the people with an ill opinion of the king and his government. The oilier point was, 4 That the City had imposed new taxes on their wharfs and markets; which was an invasion of the liberty of the subject, and contrary to law.’ — After long pleadings, on both sides, when the matter was brought near Judgment, Saunders, who had laid the whole thing, was made chief justice; Pemberton, who was not satisfied in the point, being removed to the Common Pleas, upon North's advancement. Dolben, a judge of the King’s-bench, was found not to be clear; so he was turned out, and Wythens came in his room. When Sentence was to be given, Saunders was struck with an apoplexy; so he could not come into court but he seut his Judgment in writing, and died a few days after. The Sentence, which was given without the solemnity that was usual on great occasions, was, 4 That a city might forfeit its Charter; that the malversations of the Common Council were the acts of the whole city; and that the two points set forth in the pleadings were just grounds for the forfeiting 2 P r570] PARL. HISTORY, 2 William Sir Edn\Seymour. You have been moved by the members for London to reverse what is not, end to restore what they have. I apprehend, you ouj; ht to remove a doubt first, what are their privileges, and not leave it to the judgment of this or that learned serjeant: trace it . to its original. I have beard no man say, that the crow n has not a right to a Quo IVurranto. If so, there may be Judgments, and not to be reversed but by a superior power. What signifies any man’s telling you it is no Judgment; and therefore there is no room to scruple whether reverse, or no? If you reverse it, then -leave them in the same right they had before. They have acted by another power, by a commission; I will not say, whether legal or no; •but you are told by an honourable person (Hampden) That something has been done by the city of London, which he does not approve, ' If both old and new were put out, and better put in, it would be more fur their advantage. Mr. Hampden. I did say, ‘That some things -had been done in the city of London, which I could wish had not been done/ 1 do not like every thing that has ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- w ill he more safe, and more for the honour of the Church, and this house, that there be no negative for the whole kingdom. For the king’s core of the Church of England, carry it as far as you will. Let the question be general, and leave out the Lieutenancy of London. ' Resolved, That the humble Thanks of this house be presented to his majesty, for the great care he has expressed of the Church of England, in the late Alterations lie has made in the Lieutenancy of the", city of London." The words, " in the Lieutenancy of the city of London, " were retained, 185 to 13G. Debate on the Abjuration BUI.] Mr. Har-bord. Pray let us not lose our question, That they that will not make renunciation of king James’s title, shall not have the beneiit of the Habeas Corpus act, nor be capable to bear any office.’ We have been told of ‘ Overloading the cart; ’ (by Birch) but I had rather have nothing in the cart, than leave the main load behind. And 1 move, that the word Ecclesiastical OHices’ may be put into the question. Sir John Low liter. 'Tis absolutely necessary, that this motion of the Ilnbeas Corpus be put into the Bill of Abjuration. 1 know that designs are carried on, to the destruction of the government:therefore I would iiave it part of the instructions to the committee. Sir Tho. Clarges.The Habeas Corpus act went backward and forward; and we had 1$ years time to get it; and now to make a law to be deprived of that law ! Make what penalties you will; but, in one act to repeal another, I know not where the consequence may rest. I value liberty more than life, or estate: that's my passive obedience; I cannot consent to it. Mr. Wharton.We differ only about words. I say, ‘ Imprison, * nsserjeant Wogan says, ‘ w ithout bail or mainpri/e, ’ or to be deprived of the Habeas Corpus act, is the same thing. Sir Tho.Lee. 1 am as fond of the Habeas Corpus act ns any body. The bill against foreign imprisonment was lost once, in the lords house, by one vote. It was, when the liberty of the subject was inconsistent with what was to be then done. But this is only instruction to a committee, for direction to draw a Bill. I do it now, upon this particular occasion, now the king goes away, for the security of the go\ eminent. But tor those that vwll give no security, 3 Q 95] PARL. HIST. 2 William & Mart, 1690. — Debate on the Abjuration [596 till Ireland be conquered, ’tis no hurt to your Act of Habeas Corpus. Sir Christ. Mnsgruve. I did not give my consent to repeal the Habeas Corpus act then:but to give instructions to a committee to repeal a law, I never knew; nor is it the usual way, nor method of parliament. The blank fur the Oath of Allegianco was filled pp by a committee of the whole house. Mr. Hurbord. If you give a private member leave to bring in a Bill to repeal a law, you uiay surely trust a committee with it. Resolved, " 1. That a committee be appointed to prepare and draw up an Oath of abjuration of the late king James, that all persons, in any employment or trust, ecclesiastical, civil, ur military, shall be obliged to take:and that the committee do prepare and bring in a Bill for that purpose. 2. That it be an Instruction to the said committee, that such persons as will not take the said Oath, shall be committed, without bail or mainprize." April 26. The Abjuration-Bill was read a second time. Lord Digby. It is a tender point that I am going to speak to; and, before I enter into the debate, I desire I may speak freely, without prejudice. Whatsoever concerns the constitution of the present government, I would not be thought to speak against; nor for king James, if I speak against the Bill. The foundation of the government is the Bill of Rights; wherein the king promises his port, &c. and we swear fealty. This is our original contract; if there be any, i am of opinion that is it. This Oath I took with a good conscience, and will keep it. Till the king enlarges his part of the contract, I think we should not enlarge ours. I have heard of enem ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e upon free quarter, and the Navy not go out. Take it thus far into consideration; try if you can moderate the Bill to satisfy; and possibly, with a little pains, it may satisfy all persons. Sir Robert Howard. I shall speak with all the deference to every body that differs from me, that is fit. I know not what Lowther means by his deference to a great man/ whom he names not. You are told, This renunciation is a new thing; ’ but church itnd state can never be safe without it. What is your religion, your ollegiance, but a renunciation ? The old thing you ever have done. What are your penal laws, and Test, but a renunciation ? It is the whole government, and protection of church and state. I believe it in the peoples hearts already; and they may else renounce you, and go mto a commonwealth. I — "Debate on the Abjuration Bill. [&)2 would not try whether we have enemies too many, and friends too few. I would rather know my late, than silently live under I know not what. Consider what renunciation is; you remove a king, aod one may be king again. This being so, you have more cause now than ever to think of a renunciation. The king goes into Ireland; and if king James should come here, and take possession, this will take that off from those tlint think them* selves yet free to join with him. The people who generally lend money in the Exchequer, ore not people who expect that king James will pay them again. A renunciation of all hopes of king James is the subject of the Bill. Mr. Ettrick.When this bill is laid aside, you may order another; but not for justices of the peace to imprison when they please. I can readily come up to this. I hear the Church mentioned:I fear it may be a Church-trap. I should have been glad to see the king’s heirs and successors’ in the bill, that monarchy may be supported by it. When the Rump-Parliament came to be in the feeblest conditioa, then came the Abjuration of Charles 2. Mr. Ponle, Master of the Rolls. Nothing is more natural among private persons, and the government is to lake the most natural way to preserve itself; and this is nothing but a zealous support with vigour; and therefore not only by punishments, but the way has been taken by oaths to preserve the government. This oath is to no other end than to respect those who are to be employed in the government: It is not unii'ersa ), to peep into mens consciences that live peaceably, but that they who are to act ought to be zealous in it. I will not go so far back as the wars of York and Lancaster. The Oath of Supremacy and Allegiance was perfectly an abjuration of the pope, and all his power, in Henry 8th's Reformation, when there was no prospect of opposition; but when there are pretended titles against the present government, it is reasonable to make tnen renounce them. A king de and a king de jure* — whoever mentions that de facto implies another de jure. There are two allegiances in that case, and therefore fit to stick to one. To obey the king de facto, is no other than to obey till I have power to rebel. To let them go abroad, and scatter this fire, yon will restrain ! I should be very sparing to impose this oath on any but in offices, but to have a discretionary power to give it. All governments do it; and you must do this, if you will presene it. Sir Joseph Williamson. It has been long known to many gentlemen, that I have as much zeal for the Protestant religion as any body. It is unfortunate, when things are brought on suddenly, by surprize. The que^ tion for this bill came in in an angry time of day, when you were about the City Address. I shall ever be for keeping off from heats and parties. I cannot but observe, that it came in tu>on resentment. I went out for the Ad- 603] dress, and against this Bill; but I see plainly, it resents matter of parlor and distinction; and, however well intended, it seems to be designed against one sort of persons. I take it, the Church of England is as sure to this government as any other part of it. It is t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e a great check upon proceedings, without this bill, for the queen to govern in his absence. If your Militia be in so ill a condition, that they have no arms nor ammunition, what remedy is there but this motion for suspension of the Habeas Corpus act, but for a few months, not perpetual, nor final? My request to the house is, as you tender the safety of all that is dear to you, that such a power may be vested. I, as an Englishman, ask it, and dare ask it. Mr. Harcourt. As we are sent here to pre* serve the liberties of England, so there is no greater security for them than this Act, and I think I have acquitted my trust very ill, if I give it up; a security, ’ a member told you (Clarges) you bad struggled many years for, and it is that now we contend for. It lias been already suspended three times, and now you will do it a fourth ! Suspending it thus * This regiment had l«_t» sent over to Holland, for being concerned 111 a mutiny. 6or] upon every occasion will, at last, amount to a repeal. At this particular time, now we have an Army of Foreigners- in our bowels, we should rather increase our liberties than diminish them. Sir Christ. Musgrare. There was a time when the subject was removed from one prison to another, and the act evaded, though at the last he obtained this act, which makes a penalty upon the government that refused it. Are we entrusted with the people’s liberties, and shall we thus part with them ? If there be a suspicion upon any man of disturbing the government, the law justifies clapping him up. Tliere is no end of this; the nation in fear of one man, and another that is disaffected to the government, is clapped up in prison to endanger his health, and ruin his fortune, and destroy his reputation in the government — Who wij| deal with them ? I will nor, I assure you. We have laid a load upon our estates, and now to lay a weight upon our liberties ! No; I am not for that. That government is precarious that must be supported by taking away the liberty of the subject. Sir Robert Rich. I was one that vowed never to give my consent to the suspending that Act; while I live, I shall ever make it my darling. It was thought then necessary when we parted with it, but those that were to be dapped up by it, walked in the court of Requests, ana nothing was said to them. I am subject to the law, but would have no law strained upon me. Col. Granville. I am surprised to hear a gentleman so forward, t’other day, to lodge a Sower in two justices of the peace to give the >ath of Abjuration, and now not to give this power to the king’s privy-council. If men will not renounce king James, there ought to be a power to secure us from known enemies, and because I would not put arbitrary power into any man’s hand, I shall propose an Oath now, which no man will refuse; To swear to king William and queen Mary, their heirs and successors, according to the Act of Settlement the last parliament, against king James, and his adherents.’ We hnve found the name and effect of tyrannical king James, and I hope we shall defend ourselves from the return of it. Sir Robert Rich. I am one of those who make no difference to swear allegiance to this king, and to renounce king James; but as to imprisonment without bail, I intended not to come up to that then, nor ever will. Sir John Lotclher. I hope you will believe that I will do nothing to destroy the liberties of the nation; but ain for suspending any law, when the safety of the nation depends upon it. I will not say where the fault lies, that the nation is under these exigencies, hut one reason is, that Judgments arc not united, and, where there are divisions, it is impossible the public service can go on. Where a man is willing to sacrifice all, lie is never so secure but he may have the censure of one or other, though I am satisfied in my conscience I do not deseivc it. [60S The government is in necessity, and at a stop. There is Credit given, but, after all, when w« do that which destroys it, that Credi ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- upply it, and the Vote is gone over all Etigland. Every body abroad makes not the judgment of it that you do; and, if you tell them you had no such menuing, but to support the government, and tell them all the arguments; that the house of commons wanted precedents to do this, &c. but by their' representatives in the house of commons, that goes abroad as the hone9t meaning of the gentlemen here — This being your case, and ns the government must be carried on with Credit, I shall offer to propose something for your security; that something may be done to those we represent abroad, as well as our own safety within these walb. Every man ought to swear to be true to the government, and not to take up arms against it. Time, place, and circumstances, give the force to actions. All this considered, I desire you will give leave for such a Bill, to impower the king to imprison such ns he suspects, and an Oath to all in authority, not to aid king James. Sir Edmund Jennings. I was of king James’s parliament, and the first that took exceptions against his Speech. I was against the Bill of Abjuration on Saturday, and for one reason, though not mentioned, and it was for the sake of the Dissenters. How could it be supposed that they should take such an oath, quite contrary to their Address to king James before ? And they will be as ready to take an oath against king William upon occasion. It is the monarchy that is aimed at. I am for a bill of this nature, and an Oath, as has been moved. Sir Edit. Seymour. The debate now is the effect of that on Saturday. I did not like the proposition then, and do as little affect this now. I shall be glad to return their kindness, and speak, some of their arguments today. One would repeal the Habeas Corpus Act, and have another Oath — I take it only to be A way to make way for dispensing with the Habeas Corpus Act. You have been presented with several reasons for it; though gentlemen did so mistrust themselves, that they did not name them. The liberty of the subject is always under the care of the law, not to be imprisoned without a cause. A lord nnticntly could not imprison his bondman without cause, and our ancestors were very improvideuf, if they left others the liberty of our persons; for the same necessity opens a door for my goods and lands, ns for my person — Here is an expedient to prevent assisting king James. Can it be imagined either of Papists, or those of particular dependencies? As for the Papists, the law against- them already is so for from perse- PARL. HISTORY, 2 William & Mary, I69O. — Debate on suspending 609] PARL. HISTORY, 2 William & Mary, l6'90. — T7* Habeas Corpus Jet, [610 jcuiioo, that the; are under the favour of ihc | laws: and as for those of dependencies under (bat unfortunate prince, it is strange the; should now, that are under no reward hut a halter. You roust like the security where it is — 1 am glad sending its to jail is an Abdication of that pnisfortune. What has risen from it, but a necessity of taking up salt-petre at their own /ates; to pass through mens grounds with the guards, 6cc. against their consent, to London, #nd the next to go to prison ? We are for Abjuration one day, and prepare Heads for it, and give our Votes against it the next. Can I have any mercy from king James for entering into the Exeter Association ? Yet now I can scarce !>e cleared from being a Jacobite. Either a Sheerness Plot, or a Cheshire accusation {Maynwaring, see p. 597.) It may happen, that a privy-counsellor may owe me ill will, ftud imprison me by this power. Is this the way to pay debts, or to get security ? I think, Jby suspending the Habeas Corpus Act, all our liberties have been lain with three times already:make her not a common strumpet. . Col. liirch. I am an ancient mnn, and I be- lieve you will think me subject to jealousy. I liad many a thought in my head on Saturday, and you shall hear some of them presently. This power (moved for) is for the king, and some choice counsellors. How has this ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- he king. Col. Granville. 1 hppe we shall have some good effect of this day’s debate. If we knew from whence our misfortunes come, they might be the easier remedied. I have heard persons described. I ain tor the he&d of the Privy-Council; * a great man, a bold man, and an * " The earl of Danby had been made Lord President, and created marquis of Carmarthen. He hud, by his accomplishing the king’s marriage with the queen, and heartily concurring in ihi* Revolution from the very beginning, atoned in some ima-urc for his proceedings under (.buries 2/’ Boyer. ary, 1690. — Debute on preserving [6’4 * able man, capable of making attempts on English spirits. When we reflect upon the arbitrary actions and counsels by the marquis . of Carmarthen, in king William’s time, it remiuds us of the same actions in king Charles 2’s time. I have heard of his merit in the Revolution. A private life would have better become him, and been more for his interest. I cannot wonder if people be cautious in sending Money to those that have so often miscarried. At one leap, from being prisoner in the Tower to be President of the Council, sticks with me. He has been impeached by the commons of England, and now to grasp at power to satisfy his revenge upon those w ho have impeached him, for betraying the liberties of England ! I would pass some censure upon him, and pull him down, though he were greater than he is:and I will he ready to do always so to those that betray the liberties of England. Sir John Lmcther. I did not think we should have had so profound a silence, if the danger had been from so great, so bold, and so able a man as lord Carmarthen. For an Impeachment against him, and he never tried, if that be a reason why he should be kept out of the Council, it may be a reason why lie should come in. I think those were great crimes in the last reigns, of surrendering Charters, and those were not called to account. We were told then to lav all things asleep; but if you will look into Grievance *, look into the last occasions of your ruin, not only into 1678, but 1684, and the rest. Sir John Guise. Mention has been made of other people in other parliaments, &c. that have been well spoken of in this home; but t wonder that so knowing a person speaks of justification, w’ben pardons have been pleaded. In this case you have one mentioned; you may demand Judgment against him, and he has nothing to plead but the pardon; a man at that time questioned for French money*; and ’tis an easy inducement for me to believe he will do so again. This nobleman has formerly been concerned in this house; we know how that went off. We had such reasons as I can never forget, why a Pardon cannot be pleaded to an Impeachment. He is President of the Council, and I could wish Lowther would tell us the good that council has done. For my own common safety, I confess, I cannot have confidence in him. I second the motion, and desire, ‘ That, during the king’s absence, the lord marquis of Carmarthen may not be left one of the Council/ Mr. Shadrach Vincent. Since 1 see it is now the fushion to name privy counsellors, I will name another, who I desire may be turned out; " He is said to have pushed for the Treasurer’s staff, a post he had forfnerly enjoyed, but was refused by the king, who was resolved tlic Treasury should he in the hands of Commissioners." Keiesby. * When earl of Danby. See vol. iv. p. 1060, 1067. 645] PARL. HISTORY, 2 William & Mary, l69<). — Peace of the .[64G he that delivered up the Charters in Cornwall. I mean the earl of Rath*. Sir W. L. Gower. Till this matter be determined, 1 know not how you can enquire. If you will prosecute my lord of Bath, he has no pardon to plead, and, it' he had, he will plead none. He will sooner turn himself out of the council, than stay in with him, if you move him out. Sir T/to. Clarges.As to what relates to lord Bath, and lord Carmarthen, I will say nothing; but the matter of Gloucestershire (complained of by sir John Knight, a ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t so as our estates may bear. Mr. Hampden. This is most proper, when you come to particular parts of the Army. You may address the king to apply as much as may be of the Civil List to maintain the Army. Sir Tho. Clarges. I know not the consequence of such an Address to the king in matter of money. I propose that the question may be ‘ That officers and soldiers may be included in this List. ’ Sir John Low liter. The general-officers advised a greater number than the king has proposed, which are so many men, besides officers. . Sir Tho. Clarges. If 16,000 men in Ireland he commanded by Protestants, they will make 35,000. They are now warlike, and at the battle of Aghriin they were not above 18,000 men. A gentleman that knows well, a commissioner of the revenue in Ireland, said, ‘That 6.000 men were sufficient to be sent into Ireland.’ I would not have 36,000 men named, and not above 20,000 paid. I hope we shall have effective men, and no collusion nor deceit. Till the Militia were armed, there was no considerable service done in Ireland. Sir John Loxlhtr. I hope the number of men will not always be necessary, only tor die present, since the expence, I hope, will be but for one year. I hope this exception, by a side-wind, will not cut off your intention. Sir John Thompson. I wonder what Low- tiler means by A side-wind; ’ if there be any, it is 1 lie supernumerary forces. We voted but 65.000 men; if the Officers came to more, it was not in the Vote; and I appeal to the house, if they did not mean Officers? It could never be thought that you meant by your Vote an Army of men without officers. Sir John Ijou ther. If that Vote did include officers, you are in the right. - For ought I know, this cuts off’ several thousands of men; — and officers not being included, your Vote stands. Sir Tho. Clarges. You have resolved upon 64, 500 men. We went not Head by Head on the Estimate, but lumped it, and I thought not fit to ravel into that. Whatever was intended by any private person, who brought the Paper of the Numbers, 6ic. it was the Resolution of the house such an Army; and I am a little scandalized at this: 1 know not by what figure in rhetoric, ‘ Men’is without ‘ Officers.’ You may raise the mob for an army, at that rate. The reason why I put in Officers now ', is, because the house was deceived, for we find in the Accounts only for private men. By your V ote you tnay determine this matter. 665] PARL. HISTORY, 3 William & Mary, Sir Henry Goodrick. When Charles 2 declared war against France, in 1677, there were 1.000 men in each regiment, not including Oilicers. You have precedents for this demand; if there be any precedents of Officers included, 1 am the most mistaken in the world. Sir Tho. Clarges. He says, ‘ That in the year 1677, Charles 2’s officers were not included in the numberbut then we had plain dealing, and the house went Head by Head; there were a hundred in a company, besides officers; but now you come to lump. Then we had our debate free: Now you come to vote what your Army consisted of, and what meant by the word ‘ Army.' You had 38 or 39.000 men paid in Ireland, and had not 20,000 at Aghrim battle. My question is a plain question, That the numbers shall not be inclusive to Officers.* If we shall have more men than officers for them, I hope they will be .reduced too. Earl of RanelaghA I stand up to inform you, that in every company of foot there will . be eleven Officers, not included in the number of men set down. They will come to 11,000, in all, not included. Sir Tho. Clarges. This lord tells you of what Numbers are given in; perhaps you will say, the same officers that now' command 50, may command 100. When you include Officers, then you will provide Numbers and Men, and till you determine Numbers of Money, you caunot determine Numbers of Officers. Must it be taken for granted, that the house has no judgment in this matter? You did formerly resolve numbers in regiments, and till then ypu cannot tell numbers o ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- be officers as well as others. If officers be no part of an Army, then some gentlemen are in the right. Sir John Lozcther. If 11,000 men will be deducted, I am not for that question. If officers, drummers, and serjeants, be deducted, I agree that three officers may be deducted. * Sir Robert Rich. I shall always stick to the true interest of the nation. To have a division for 2,000, I think not for the interest of the king nor the nation. bir Christ. Musgrnve. I believe it not the intention of any man to lessen your Vote of 64.000 men; and I hope no intention to increase it. But to talk of an Army and not Officers, I believe the notion never entered into any man’s head as tied to that Vote of 64.000 men; for it is not to lessen them. Resolved, " That it is the opinion of this •oaimittee, that the 12, 960 men for Ireland do 1691. — Delate on Secret Service Money. [666 consist of Officers and Soldiers, making up that number.’* Which was agreed to by the house. Debate on the Accounts and Observations delivered by the Commissioners of Accounts; and on St cret Service Monty paid to Parliament-Men.] Dec. 3. Sir Tho. Clarges. The lords have ordered the Commissioners of Accounts to send them their Accounts under their hands and seals. 1, would know, whether they should go in person to the lords, or are the commissioners to send their secretary with them? Mr. Tho. Howard. I heard my name read in this Book of Accounts, for 50 and 100/. to Mr. Kingsmell and myself: both have had pensions from king Charles paid all this while, and In king James’s time; and application has been made to this king, who made some objections to persons names; but it is in my name, and I do receive it. I am sorry it has gone so far. I. owe all to the protection of the government, but nothing to the bounty of it. Sir John Thompson. I stand amazed that, in the best times and governments, things should be in such darkness. I hope not to live to that day to see the house of commons one of the Grievances of the nation. When we see Grievances, I hope, if this house cannot take them away, it will not establish them. I believe we are under the best of kings, but never was so much goodness so abused. The Accounts are amazing things. We were told last session, Country gentlemen understood not Accounts/ and now, it seems, the Commissioners of the Treasury do not. If they understand not Secret Service, then they are not fit for their places. It is our misfortune, the person (Mr. Jephson) is dead that should give you Account. I would know, whether the secretary, or the lords, understand your Accounts ? W hen they have directions from the king. So much given to Members. I am sorry money goes so little for merit as in former ages. Captains of ships put in for money: old methods will bring in new judgments. I am afraid some men have taken up old vices, which others have left. I would have this house begin with themselves. I do declare, I never had one penny from the king, nor ever will have. Sir John Lozcther. As to that part of the discourse of the gentleman that spoke last, I agree that I am not lit for my place in the Treasury. I shall be much easier out of it, and I hope I shall leave it. 1 remember an accident of that gentleman, at au accusation last session for drinking king James’s health [was reaily to faint away]. It is strange flow to make reflections of being gagged by Offices. As for the Accounts, I dare be bold to say, some things are mistaken, nud some of importance omitted, and nothing in them, but was transmitted last session. You have an Account of 18 millions, to raise a dust to blind you. All the Aids amount not to 11 millions, not much above ten. If you reckon tire lawyers, and the money come out of the country, that is a double reckoning; but to say 18 mil-lious, when in reality, not 11, is not fair. Not 07] PARL. HISTORY, S William & Mur, 1$91 on Secret Service Money [Gfo having yet bad the copy of the Account?, I cannot say much. As for king James’s debt, upon the Revolution of the gov ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- of parliament very safe. In case of commoners the sheriff nominates the jury, and by any person the pannel may be quashed; but the lord steward summons the lords, and no exception can be taken against any lord. It is in the power of any great man to destroy 687] PAUL.HIST. 3 William & Mary, J69I- — [688 lord, for he is, by his commission, to summon so many as he thinks fit, which may be but thirteen — -and may not any innocent man’s life be in danger ? The greater he is, the more power he has, and may have seven lords of his party: and it subjects some lords to the will and pleasure of seven. It has been said, 4 If all the peers be summoned, none will come, but only such as will acquit him, as his allies, &c.’ But the peers are finable, if they do not come, as any common jury is. The danger is not at present, when we have a wise and good prince upon the throne, but there may he a Henry 6, governed by his lords. I have not heard any objection, that this weakens the government, but that all the peers summoned will not come :*but they forget to tell you that they may be amerced. We do not find that relations were so prevalent in lord Stafford’s Trial. But one Howard of six or seven that were his Judges, found him Not Guilty; * and will a peer expose himself to contempt for this ? There is no reason not to agree with the lords, unless this: that, if we do not agree, the Bill may be lost. Let any man show me any proposition in the bill that renders the government unsafe. There is nothing in it, but to render an innocent man safe, and it does not weaken the government. It makes it more hard to condemn an innocent man, and acquit a guilty. Mr. Attorney Treby. I am against the Clause, though I am fond of the Bill. I hear it challenged, that this Clause does not weaken the government. I think the Clause does weaken the government. It is the removing of an ancient landmark, and an article of Magna Charta. It is setting up a new court for Trial of peers. We are to redress grievances here, and, as if the lords have not privilege enough, to give them more! We shall not have the thanks of those we represent. The grievance is rather at the bad execution of the law, than the law itself. By 33 lien. 8, all are to be tried by freeholders, and yet, in spite of that law, the Judges have declared otherwise. As soon as the prisoner has his papers, if the court take them away, (as in College’s Case) he will have little benefit of the copy of his Jury, or Indictment. It is a great mistake alleged, That it is in the power of a lord steward to summon as many as he pleases.’ By law, no man but must be found by at least twenty, who must proceed on his Trial. It was the earls of Essex’s and Southampton’s Case. But it is said, A commoner may challenge, but a peer not; ’ but this Bill helps them not, but lets in all that will come. They magnify themselves to give their verdict seriatim. It was once thought a great privilege by the lords, but now a burden — It is objected, 4 That it is in the power of the king to make a lord steward, and be may be an ill man; ’ but, on the other side. * " Four of the Howards, his kinsmen, condemned him. Lord Arundel, afterwards duke of Norfolk, though in enmity with him, did acquit him." Burnet. does not the king make sheriffs? And I know no reason but that the danger is in the one, as in the other. But to answer the precedent of Henry 4. One of the most learned books of the Crown Law, which is Stanford’s, says, 4 T his is that judicium parium provided in Magna Charta.’ This does show that we are repealing one of the articles of Magna Charta of the laws of the kingdom. In parliament, the lords are the same, and no house of peer* without the commons:and it is not likely that there will be so much danger, when they are in being, of partiality. It is only those lords that will voluntarily appear; and none but friends will appear, and may be ready to acquit their fellow-malefactor. The ground of the Clause That twelve lords may conspire an unjust verdict.' — I suppose the lords may conspire.’ It seems to me to provide an impunity to the lords, and this is as near to it ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Col. Titus.I know not how Ashby deserves such a favour as a Letter from the Speaker. You sent fur Delaval by your serjeant; I know not why it may not be so now. Sir Christ. Alusgrave. I think it is the best way of respect to Ashby, to send a summons, anil let your messenger deliver him your order, and he may come at his ease. To receive an order by a messenger of your own, is no reflection at all; but to send a summons by the post, unless it be belter managed in other countries than in ours, I know not when it will come to his hands. Sir Edit. Seymour. It is well advised, that Ashby be summoned by your order. I know no diminution to any person to let him know the order of your house by your serjeant. Nov. 15. The Serjeant at arms acquainted the house, That sir John Ashby having been served with the Order for his attending this house, he returned Answer, " That as soon as any person came to take the charge and command of the Fleet, he would attend the house." Debate on the Bill for regulating, in eases if Treason.] Nov. 18. Sir Wni. Whit- lock moved for commitment of the Bill. •Sir Tho. Clargcs. I have perused the Bill, and it came last session to a committee of the whole house. But since it has been already passed, there is no necessity that it go into a committee of the whole house. But I submit it to you, whether you will put it to a committee of the whole house, or a select committee ? Sir John Lowther. I cannot agree to the hill. I would have the security our ancestors had, be so to us, especially in this time, so few have been tried for Treason. The Bill says, ‘ Indictuieut is not to be presented but in ten days; ’ it is impossible in our county [Westmorland] where the assizes are but once a year, and witnesses may be dead, or tampered with, or the criminal may escape, and so not be punished. 1 should be glad my country and family may be secured, but I think this bill is no security. Mr. Attorney Satners* I shall never consent that any thing of the liberty of the subject be taken away. I have not given occasion to any man to say I ever strained any construction of law. To several parts of the bill I disagree, but atu totally against timing the bill, as unnecessary and inconvenient. 1 declare * The former Attorney General, sir (Jeorge Treby, had been made Lord Chief Justice of the Common Fleas, i 713] PARL. HISTORY, 4 William & Mart, 1692. —, in cases of Treason. [714 my judgment against the last Clause: the only thing, besides giving Money, by the commons, is the right of Impeachments; if that be brought down to ordinary proceedings, the .commons [will never undertake Impeachment!, * when counsel must stand upon an equal loot with the commons, and put themselves under a very Jow degree. If a man have the good luck to conceal treason for a time, he may escape prosecution. Yesterday perjury was made a capital law.f Taking this bill altogether, it is so difficult to prosecute any man for Treason I by this bill, that I think it unnecessary, and ill-timed, and I am against it. Sir Christ. M us grave. The learned person that spoke last, has thought this bill unseasonable, and spoke to several parts of it, which may be good instruction to your committee. I remember, in the Convention, one Grievance vras, misinterpreting the law, and mis-construction of it, in cases of treason. Tew but did bewail the misfortune of the last government in misrepresentations of law; and it is just to prevent it for the future. As for the objection about the Impeachments, that is proper tor the committee to consider: but 1 would know whether such a bill is not requisite? 11 so, what security have we more than we had before ? W hen princes strain hard upon their subjects, it will he hard to get such a law. 'l he time therefore now is seasonable. Mr. Solicitor Trevor f. There are great objections against this bill. It seems to aim at those things that every honest subject ought to do; and if the ends of it could be accomplished, I should be for it; hut I take it to be quire contrary: no doubt hut we should secure the protection of the lives of the subjects, but this bill gives protection to offenders, and does not preserve the innocent, and then the bill is not to be passed. I shall not deuy, but there have been misinterpretations of the law in former reigns; the way to prevent that for the future is to prevent ttie authors of them. This law now will have no greater sanction than the former laws. There arc too many I fear that correspond with our enemies abroad. Now, whether is it proper to pass a law more difficult for prosecution, tlmn in times of our ancestors? nobody but will think then that this bill is an encouragement to impunity. Will the innocent be protected in letting loose so many ill men against the government ? What then will be the consequence? Tyranny and Popery will * A Bill had been ordered in to make it Felony. + Second son of sir John Trevor (Secretary of State to king Charles 2 ), appointed Attorney-General in 1695, and on queen Anne’s accession, Lord Chief Justice of the Common Pleas. In 1711, he, was created lord Trevor, and in 172.% was appointed by George 1, Lord Privy Seal, lie W/i> continued in the same post by George 2, and in 1700, was made Lord Pres ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ght. I was a bystander, and said nothing. Col. Churchill. The telling of the man’s life condemned, &c. was the latter end of the discourse, not the beginning. Till after my refusal of the oath, they spoke nothing; I said 1 I would have nothing to do with the blood of the man. ’ Sir Robert Rich. We had no scruple to aslc him what was said out of the house. It is true, he said the words in the house, but having said the words out of the house, we thought we might interrogate him of them. We have traced the office, and out of the office, and can find nothing of him. There was hnnlly any ship had more men killed and wounded in it than his ship; but if it could he proved that he was a cowurd, he must die; and I hope the house will permit us to search into this, to inform the king of it. Sir Christ. Alusgrave. I think you should declare, That no Member be examined lor what he has said here.’ Neither must it go for doctrine that a man may declare without doors what has been said here, and the intention of the thing must not tiller the thing. Col. Titus.I)o you think that this is a new privilege? This is calling that in question, that was ever out of question. The Speaker. It had been a civil thing, and a reasonable thing, for the admiralty to have told Churchill, i They had no intent to interro- 737] PARL. HISTORY, 4 William Sc Mart, l6£)2. — Debate on the Bill of Trials. [738 gate him as to any thing said in the house/ — This matter passed over without any vote. * Farther Debate on the hilt for regulating Trials in Cases of Treason.] The house went into a grand committee, on the Bill for regulating Trials in cases oi Treason. Sir Thomas Clarges. This is a necessary bill for preservation of the government, and the king’s person. The hardships the nation endured in constructive Treason was one of the greatest motives and inducements to the late change; and, amongst other things, the regulation of Trials for Treason was one of the Heads presented to the king to be redressed. At Henry 4th’s coming to the crown, there was a revolution as strange and extraordinary as this. The first he made was reducing the Trials for Treason to the 25th of Edw. 8. Why? To let the people see, they were secure in their lives and estates. Since the king came to the government, it has been set out in several Acts how Judgment of Treason was perverted. Our public faith to the nation was engaged in such a Bill as this. This is the way to reconcile all people. This is only as much as to say; corruptions were in the Judges, and you will not .remedy that: before the 25th Edw. 8. Com-Lpoo-Law Treasons were'so numerous^ tbal |flOWWiycon‘rt ~whar. do7 and that of the 3 was made, because there were so Imany constructions then, and now so lately. I know not how much wiser we are now than we were the last session, when this passed here, and the lords put a clog upon it. Tins is the means to quiet men’s spirits. Sir Edw. Hussey. To fill up the blank, ‘ That the Bill shall not commence till the end of the French war/ is, nobody knows when. We have beard lately of a Plot, f but whether a plot or no plot, we know not. I would fill up the blank, ‘ for the Bill to commence in Jan. 1693, or 1694/ If by that time the government be not settled, it will not be at all. Sir Henry Goodrick. I have heard it said, and without contradiction, ‘ That king James’s friends are plotting/ If this king Imd not extraordinarily stopped his hands, he had made many examples. No doubt there was n Plot; many horse officers came to town — Your safety is already shaken, and 1 hope you will consider the king’s safety so far as not to let this Bill commence before the end of the French war. Mr. Solicitor Trevor. I offer, that the filling up of the blank may be, From the end of the French War / and what moves me to it is, that from thence the danger of the government proceeds:and to prevent the great danger, and not go upon an imaginary danger. Whether is the greater danger, from your enemies, or ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- to vote. That Judges and some others should not be comprehended. People abroad that received our Votes will think strangely of it, if, after all those preparations, we do nothing in it, and suffer ourselves to be thus gulled: but 1 hope better of the worthy gentlemen, and cannot but think they were in earnest with this house upon so solemn a debate." The Earl of Mulgrave's Speech Dec. 22. The bill touching free and impartial Proceedings in Parliament, was sent up from the commons, in which several persons in Employments both military and civil, were incapacitated to sit in the house of commons, which caused it to be very much opposed by the lords that stood up for the court; though on the other hand, several peers spoke vehemently for it, and among the rest the earl of Mulgrave; who upon this occasion made the following memorable speech: " My lords; This debate is of so great consequence that I resolved to be silent, and rather to be advised by the ability of others, than to shew my own want of it; besides it is of so nice a nature, that 1, who speak always unpremeditated y, apprehend extremely saying any thing which may be thought the least rejecting; though even that ought not to restrain a man here from doing one’s duty to the public, in a business where it seems to be so highly concerned. I have always heard, I have always read, that foreign imtiort-, and all this part of the world, have admired and envied the Constitution of this government. For, not to speak of the king’s power, here is a house of lords to advise him on all important occasions, about peace or war, about all things that may concern the nation, the care of which is very much entrusted to your lordships. But yet, because your lordships cannot be so conversant with the generality of the people, nor so constantly in the country as is necessary for that purpose, here is a house of commons also chosen by the very people themselves newly come from among them, or should be so, to represent all their Grievances, to express the true mind of the nation, and to dispose of their Money, at least so far as to begin all bills of that nature; and, if I am not mistaken, the very writ for elections sent down to the Sheriffs does empower them to chuse; What? Their Representatives. — Now, my lords, I beseech you to consider the meaning of that word, Representatives; Is it to do any thing contrary to their mind? It would be absurd to propose it:And yet how can it be otherwise, if they, after being chosen, change their dependency, engage themselves in employments plainly inconsistent with, the great trust reposed in them ? And that I will f4-9] PARL. HISTORY, 4 William & Mart, 1692. — Proceedings in Parliament. take the liberty to demonstrate to your lordships they now do, at least according to iny humble opinion. I will instance tirst in the least and lowest incapacity, they must be under, who so take employments. — Your lordships know but too well what a general carelessness .there appears, every day more and more, in the public business; if so, how is it likely that men should be as diligent in their duty in parliament as that business requires, where Employments and a great deal of other business shall take up both their minds and their time. — But then in some cases it is worse, as in Commands of the Army, and other employments of that kind, when they must have a divided duty: for it does admirably become an officer to sit voting away Money in the house of commons, while his soldiers are perhaps taking it away at their quarters, for want of his presence to restrain them, and of better discipline among them; nay, perhaps his troop or regiment may he in some action abroad, and he must either have the shame of being absent from them at such a time, or from that house where he is entrusted with our liberties. To this I have heard but one objection by a noble lord, that if this Act should pass, the king is not allowed to make a captain a colonel, without disabling him to sit in parl ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- my lords, this is no .Farce, for it is no laughing matter to undo a nation:but it is altogether as unnatural for a member of parliament to ask first in the king’s name for such a sort of Supply, give an Account from him how much is needful towards the paying such nn Army, or such a Fleet, and then immediately give by his ready Vote what he had before asked by his master’s order. — Besides, my lords, there is such a necessity now for long sessions of parliaments; and the very priv ileges belonging to members are of so great extent, that it would be a little hurd and unequal to other gentlemen that they should have all the places also. — All the Objections that have been made may he reduced to these:First, it is told us, that it is a disrespect to the king, that his servants or officers should he excluded. — To this, 1 desire it may he considered, that it is in this cace, as when a tenant sends up any body to treat for him:would any of your lordships think it a disrespect; nay, would the kmg himself think it any, if the tenant would not only refer himself tonne of your own servants, or the king’s commissioners in the case of the crown? And if he chuses rather some plain, honest friend of his own to supply his absence here, w ill any man blame such a proceeding, or think it unmannerly ? — Besides, your lordships know even this Act admits them to be clwsen, notwithstanding their Employments, provided the electors know it first, and are not deceived in their choice. All we would prevent is, that a good rich corporation should not chuse to entrust with all their liberties a plain honest country neighbour, and find him within six months changed into a preferred, cunning courtier; who shall tyethem to their choice, though he is no more the same inan, than if he were turned papist, which by the law, as it stands already, puts an incapacity upon him. — Another Objection is, that this Act may by its consequence prolong this parliament, which they allow would be a very great grievance, and yet suppose the king capable of putting it upon us, which I have too much respect for him to admit of; though I am glad however, that it is objected by privy-counsellors in favour, who consequently, I hope, will never advise a thing which they now exclaim at as so great grievance. — But pray, my lords, what should tempt the king to so ill a policy ? Can he fear a freedom of choice in the people, to whose good will he owes all his power, which these lords suppose he may use to their prejudice. — And therefore give me leave to say, as I must not suspect him of so ill a design as the perpetuating this parliament, so he cannot, he ought not to suspect a nation so entirely, I was going to say, so fondly devoted to him. — My lords, no man is readier than myself to allow that we owe the crown all submission as to the time of calling parliaments according to law, and appointing also where they shall sit. But, with reverence be it spoken, the king owes the nation entire freedom in chusing their represent itives; and it is no less his duty, than it is his true inteiost, that such a fair and just proceeding should be used towards us. — Consider, ir.y lords, of what mighty consequence it may he, that so many V’otes should he free, when upon one single one may depend the whole security or loss of this nation. By one single vote such things may happen, that I almost tremble to think:by one single vote a General Excise may be granted, and then we are all lost: by one single vote the crown maybe empowered to name all the Commissioners for raising the Taxes, and then surely we should he in a fair way towards it. — Nay, whatever lias happened may again be apprehended: and I hope those reverend prelates will rellect, that if they grow once obnoxious to a prevalent party, one single voice may be as dangerous to that Bench, as a general dissatisfaction among the people proved to lie once in a late experience; which I am far from saying by way of threatening, but only by way of caution. — My lords, we may think because this concerns not Dig' id by v 7-51] PARL. HISTORY, 4 William & Mary, l6$2-3. — Debate on advising the King [7 5'2 the house of lords, that we need not be so over careful of the matter: but there are noblemen in France, at least such as were so ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- cation, in being debarred from a security in their Representatives; for malicious people will not fail to infuse into their minds, that all those vast sums, which have been, and still must be raised towards this War, are not disposed away in so fair a manner as ought to be: and I am afraid they will say, their money is not given but taken. — However, whatever success tins Bill may have, there must needs come some good elfect of it: for if it passes, it will give us security; if it be obstructed, it will give us warning Protest thereon.] The courtiers however being numerous, (Contents 2, Proxies 3. Not-coutenis 40, Proxies 7; Majority 2.* *) the * " The earl of Mulgrave, who had more distinguished himself by his eloquence in this debate than ever, was induced to print his Speech, which was every where received as if it had been a new Revelation." Ralph. " The Bill wqs ordered up to the lords on the 22d of Dec. The first reading produced nothing extraordinary; hut on the second, when amotion was made by the malcontents for committing it, notwithstanding all the efforts of the courtiers to over-rule it, the former carried their point by a majority of9 voices; nor was this ail; for in the committee they were still triumphant: and even on the report, when the court exerted their whole strength, of the lords present, 42 were for the Bill, and only 40 against it: so that the scale was turned by the Proxies; of whom the court had 7, and the opposite lords hut 3:difference upon the whole, two. Every body that knows any thing of parliamentary affairs, knows, that ministers esteem such a division as this, an escape, rather than a victory; and surely this.wus one of the narrowest that ever betel any ministry whatever:besides, the vanquished party rallied the most considerable persons of their corps, among other party took an occasion from an objection they made (to wit, that this Act might by its consequence prolong this Parliament, which they allowed would be a very great Grievance) to bring in and pass another Bill, for the frequent calliirg and meeting of parliaments:which they sent down to the commons, Jan. the 21st, for their concurrence. But the king having no mind to part with this parliament so long as the War lasted, refused his Assent to this Bill, although the lords had agreed to the Amendments made to it by the commons. We must not, however, forget that Jan. the 3d, when the Negative w as put on the first of those Bills, the dissenting lords entered the following Protest: " Because the principal Objection made to this Bill was the great danger that might happen thereby, of the too long continuing this present Parliament, which is an ill consequence that we can no ways apprehend, since w e hope and humbly conceive, his majesty will n'ever be capable of taking any advice of that kind, so plainly destructive to the subjects just rights of election to frequent parliaments, and so many ways inconsistent with the good of this nation. 2. Because we are not only very sensible of the just occasion given for such an Act (though we are loath to enlarge upon so tender a subject ), but have good reason to believe the house of commons would not have begun and passed a Bill of this nature, wherein the members of that house are so particularly concerned, without having been fully satisfied in the reasons for it, and plainly convinced of that great need the people of England are in, at this time, of so just and wise a Provision. (Signed). Warrington, Thanet, De Longueville, Weymouth, Montagu, Denbigh, Fitzwalter, Cumberland, Rivers, Vaughan, Sandwich, Clifforde, Stamford, J. Arundeil, Mulgrave, Marlborough, Cholmondeley, Carnarvon, Aylesbury, Asb-burnham." Debate on advising the King respecting the Admiralty.*] Jan. 10. Sir F. Wilmington reported the several Resolutions agreed to by the Committee, To the first Resolve, viz. " That the king be advised to constitute an Admiralty of persons of known experience in Maritime Affairs, &c." many spoke in ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- intrenching on the prerogative, but is for the honour of the king. lie hath said, in * A hearty promoter of the Revolution; going over to Holland to ofTer his assistance to the prince of Orange some time before. And, in consideration of those services, be was created lord Herbert of Chei bury, in 1691. In 1705, lie was appointed one of the Lords of Trade, and died in 1703. I‘ARL. HISTORY, 4 William & Mary, lG<)2-3. — on the Bill 761] PARL. HISTORY, 4 William & Mary, 1692-3. — -forfrequent Parliaments. [7G2 his Declarations, That he will put us in such a way, that we need not fear being under arbitrary power, by yielding any thing to make 11s easy and happy/ Our honour is concerned for this bill; considering what we have done, we should let others come in, that they may find, that Money is not here to be gotten. A standing parliament can never be a true representative; men are much altered after being some time here, and are not the same men as sent up. The lords sent you a Bill in Hen. 8's time, for settling their Precedency, and you have sent Bills to them concerning your Privileges. Sir Tho. Claries. I should be unworthy to sit here, if I did not give testimony to this bill. It is the best bill that ever came into this house since ‘25 Edw. 3, of Treasons, &c. I would never countenance any encroachment of the lords; but I take it to be none; .and I cannot refuse to speak in behalf of the bill; we should otherwise go into the country with discredit. I am not against my neighbours coming here, to see what we have done. We should do well to imitate the Long Parliament in Charles l’s time, which, by their Self-Denying Ordinance, kept up their credit longer than otherwise could have been, and would otherwise have fallen sooner. In the Bill of Rights, the Clause of Triennial Parliaments is the chief good thing we can do for ourselves, f The language of the Bill is the same with the ancient former laws for annual parliaments. The Long Parliament was ever esteemed a Grievance by me. Mr. Foley. I take it, that the bill is not against the prerogative; for a present law is for a Triennial parliament. We may send any bill to the lords about their members, and they also to us; only no bill for Money is to be sent to us. It is necessary for us to have frequent parliaments, and to take care also that parliaments be not corrupted, which frequent and fresh are less subject to. Some deficiency is in the bill, but alt may be amended at commitment; for something now ought to be to prevent Corruption. Mr. Freke, jun. only made this short obser- vation:From this house, a bill moved to the lords against the Popish lords, and was received. Sir Tho. Littleton. To receive the bill is essential to the peace of both houses. It is not usual to reject a hill at first reading. Such a rejection would be construed, that the house could not endure to be dissolved. To begin a new bill here touched on by some, would provoke the lords. You ameud all faults yourselves. Though there be law for Trienniai parliaments already, yet plainly no effect hath been. The Clause of Dissolution of the present Parliament may be left out. If gentlemen oppose the bill for that reason, yet let us have tiie bill for the benefit of posterity. Sir Francis Winnington. The great men that were for Prerogative in Charles l’s time, * See vol. iii. p. 335. f See p. 483. in defect of parliaments, turned prerogative into arbitrary power. In the Pensioner-Parliament of king Charles 2, made so by long continuance, a Bill against France could never pass, and it was against building of Ships. This parliament is already so well-officered, that much enquiry is, bow many things come to pass. There is as much right to the people to have frequent parliaments, as to have parliaments; because they cannot recall and revoke their members, when elected. The lords may send down bills relating to the good government of the people, but not for Money. The lords accepted from us a Bill to disable the Popi ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ueen Elizabeth said, * I called you hither to assist me, not to take away my prerogative.’* The prerogative is as inherent in the crown, as the people’s rights in them. You have brought the crown into a War; it is just now under the difficulties thereof; at tlus time to wrest the prerogative * See vol. i. from the crown ! We have given much Money; credit must support whAt is to come, and this for the bill will much impair such credit. Will another parliament always consider what a former has done? Nothing will more gratify the enemies of our common safety, than the passing this bill. For the Bill. Sir Wm. Strickland. I think more charitably of the lords intentions. I would know, if a person do any of us a real kindness, whether it is reasonable to examine into the intentions ? Frequent parliaments wilt be much better, and the ministry also will be thereby much better. Mr. Hutchinson. The best of kings was not against limiting the prerogative, as in Edw. S’s time, when the laws for annual parliaments were made. The corruption of the Pensioner-Parliament was by long sitting. I think none can be against this bill, but such as doubt of being chosen again, and others also that are unwilling to spend money. Mr. Howe. Many scandals are upon us. * The argument of prerogative, and the advantage we shall give to our enemies by this bill/ are words we make use of for our own sakes. We are told, That, by this bill, our credit will be lessened.’ I do aver, that persons without' doors thank as for it, and applaud the bill. It is said, ‘ It will weaken our Alliances :* it is unreasonable but we should have some good laws for ourselves, and not respect Alliances with neglect of ourselves. I think that this bill makes us more united among ourselves. The lords were anciently called pro hue, but now, by some zuYeor other, they are always called. Lord Coke says, ‘ Before the conquest, a parliament was held twice in a year, and in Edw. 3’s time, once a year, and this to redress Grievances, which every day happen/ I hope to behave myself so well as to be again sent up. Mr. Brockman. I would propose an Amendment; for, as the billis drawn, a parliament may not be held in three years. I wonder this should be thought to intrench upon the prerogative, since the king hath declared so much in favour of parliaments. The people are so well disposed, that no danger can be of a new parliament. It is better for the king to rely on his people, than on the ministry, not excepting the present ministry. Sir John Morton. If I had thought the bill against the prerogative, I should be for casting it out, for the government hath deserved better of us than the late ones, which were for cutting our throats. Lord Castleton. Second thoughts are esteemed best, but it is not so in sir Orlando Gee. Mr. Goodwin Wharton. I believe the bill not designed ill by the lords. I am sorry that so frequent reflections are upon the lords. I believe they thought not ill of this house, for only a good house will consent to such a bill * I have no distrust of the king, but would have it now to be gamed to provide against a bad 767] PARL. HIST. 4 William & Mary, prince The bill is to provide against two extremes; parliaments but too loin; and parliaments not too frequent. 1 think that freedom may be used here, and, I think, that those who are against this bill are no friend* to the government. Mr. Foley. Some have objected, what ill laws were made in that parliament, called The Pensioner Parliament.' What rights o! the people gave they up? By the law of Triennial Parliaments, as passed and confirmed, they, by implication, perpeiuated themselves; by means whereof, the ill ministers of that time were perpetuated. 1 think it very tit, that, if w’e cannot find out our ill ministry, others should come that may find them out. Mr. Neale.It is the interest of the king that the bill pass, as well as that the subject will thereby be well pleased, since it will show them that their majesties ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ngs retard our-proceedings:one is. Places. A noble example lately of my Lord Keeper, in disposing Ins Places ! I wish all Places were well filled-, and that men would not thrust themselves into Offices, and never look after them. It is high time to come to some Resolution. YVe have more enemies than we had last year. I move, for your reputation, that you will resolve to support the king, and, defend the government, and assist them in a parliamentary way for carrying on the YY’ar with France, and supporting the king. Sir Too. Charges reads part of the king’s Speech rellecting on the Miscarriages. — 1 am sorry any body should be so unhappy as to prostitute the honour of the king. Where the reputation of the king sinks, the king sinks with it. Unhappy ministers that advised the king to heat I such armies, as are not for his reputation ! If they think they can be governed without him, they may say tht-y will not he governed with him. Kings formerly had their council with them in foreign Expeditions. This may he the hist meeting in th; s assembly, if we provide not better for our safety. Lhtleton told you, ‘ That, formerly, the Pensioners perverted good laws; ’ pray God it is not so still ! I find some, who arraigned the former times, now in Oliices; genet ally such people are distrusted. The Trade of the nation is g. ne, and Lund will be worth nothing *, if Trade be not supported. By trade, London makes up your rents. I always told you, that our safety is the Sea. In 1602, the Navy was two tnilhous in arrear. It was.said heretofore, ‘That we should he Alonarcis of the Sea; ' but for all I see, we are like to he vassal", and bow to other nations. I hope you will particularize the Miscarriages, You have lost amiliion of capital .'•tock in the city of London, besides the "hips you have furnished to your enemies. It is come to a moot point, whether we shall save England or Flanders. 1 think wc are undone, if wc go not by the ancient way of parliament, to address that our Grievances may be repressed before we give .Aid; which i> the natural wav of aiding the king. The king told us, when he came over, ‘ That we should make such laws, that we should never fear our liberties; ’ but God knows, we are betrayed; and if there be such unhappy men to take Money to betray their country, find them out. YVe have some resemblance to the first Christianity, w beta were twelve Apostles, and one of them was a Devil: he k< pt the Purse; for thirty pieces of silver lie betrayed his master:and that will betray us, and by that we shall lose all our privileges. I should enlarge farther, but I hope gentlemen of greater abilities will supply me: But I move, as before, for a day to consider the Miscarriages of the Fleet. Sir John Thompson. All of us come here full of abortion to serve our king and country; but it must be confessed, that never parliament was under such discouragements as we are; hut would it not grieve any Englishman, that PARL. HIST. 5 William & Mart, l6£)3. — ‘Debate on the 777] FARL. HISTORY, 5 Williim & Mary, 1693. — Miscarriage of the Fleet. [778 the treasure of the nation should be spent in such extravagant bounties, and Pensions to Foreigners? A man must no more talk of Miscarriages at court, than of news in the camp. Do but consider the last session; our Bills for the Security of the Nation, all proved abortive. Though we have had so many gracious promises, they all languish under disappointment of performances. Have we not seen preferments, as if the displeasure of this house were the greatest letters of recommendation ? Lord Torrington was questioned, and tried for his life; yet he brought home the Fleet. Admiral Russel fought and was accused when be came home. I hope, whatever is said abroad, that persons will not be so mollified with Places, as to betray their country. Sir John Lozciher. Upon the deliberation of the house all will depend. Miscarriages have been unfortunate, but must be proved, and then I shall concur to punishments. But do not judge men before they be heard. They are said to be Judas’s, 1 because they carry the Purse.' As to Offices, can the nation subsist without Offices ? If you can find honest officers, encourage them; if otherwise, prove them, and make them examples to others. What will men think of us, if, in these great exigencies, we complain, and no more ? The Treasury have had no assistance from the Commissioners of Accounts. When we consider, that the last money came short; we can never answer it to our country. We in our ports, when the enemy was at sea ! I am indifferent which question you pot first; whether you will examine the faults, or give the king Supply. Do all the parts requisite to the government, and take the questions together, and I hope you will not preclude any thing; but, amidst your discontents, do net ruin the nation. ' Sir Kdw. Hussey. In the last session, the Triennial Bill was rejected:I would know who advised that, and the delay of the Smyrna Fleet? Former parliaments had Grievances redressed before they gave Money. *1 move to consider the Miscarriages of the Fleet last Summer, &c. On the Miscarriages of the Fleet. Sir Edzo-. Seymour. It is a great dissatis- faction to enter into this debate. One consideration weighs more with me than all; without Supply, for support of the Government, we are lost. Here is an Account prepared for you, to see that the Money is not mis-spent, lor the use of the nation. I say, with the greatest sadness, that we have lost the discipline of the Fleet, and, I am afraid, our honour too. The house will never go along chearfully, till enquiry be made into Miscarriages. Words have done no good, of a vigorous War against France; but I fear it may be termed a vigorous war against England. I move to odd to the question, That we will support the Government to the utmost of our power. ’ Colonel Titus. A great sum was given last year to set out the Fleet, which brought home nothing but infamy. The Fleet should have convoyed the Turkey fleet out of danger, and it convoyed them iuto danger. They fiddled and danced at Torbay, and we must pay the music. If you enquire hot into these Miscarriages, you will be as popular a parliament as the iieet is a fleet. But ‘ be angry and sin not, ’ and revenge the quarrel upon yourselves. Your case now is to satisfy your justice, and provide for your safety at the same time. But it is an affront to the government to take care of Trade, and none of the government; therefore, I would put in the word *, &c. Sir Christ. Mus grave. Shall it ever be said, to the disgrace of the house of commons, that we do not examine Miscarriages? The affections of the people are not changed to the king, but accidents in government that prove unfortunate. You are told, 1 If you hate not a greater care than formerly, your Money will be of no effect; ’ but let us not be ensnared by any Vote to take away the freedom of debate. I conclude, ‘ For the preservation of the Government, and Trade of the nation. ’ Mr. Howe. I ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- to be trodden on, we may. But let the sum we give be laid impartially, ns in other places. This cha ge is borne by the fortieth part of England, if every shoulder bore part of the proportion, the sum of two millions would be easily borne. I join with the motion for an Address. Sir Charles Sc d ley.This Army is not so dangerous as is said. It is to defend us from France and Popery. If Holland be destroyed, it is our turn next. The king tells us of the want of numbers, and certainly numbers must be continued, if not increased. There is a great and terrible sum to be raised: but we are not yet under Excises. This sum will be great, but the nation cannot be saved without it. We cannot be safe without an Army; neither safe at home, uor considerable abroad. Mr. Harley. I do not doubt but this house will consider the necessity to preserve the nation and the confederacy, so much as belongs to us; but that is not the question before us; but the Treaties and Allianc es, i hope, when we raise the money, that we shall satisfy them that sent us. When these are before us, then at will be time for us to judge. That which sur-, prizes me is what is talked of general excises, ’ on both sides the house. Let us he careful that what we give this year wc may be able to give the next, without filling the nation with Publicans, and the house with Excisemen. Sir Tho. Littleton. You had the Alliances last year hell*re you, and I think none were broken. The king tells us, That our Allies declared they would augment in the midst of their distressand they did very wisely, and seasonably, to keep up the hearts of their people. Nobody doubt* but that the king tells you true of the want of men. Thompson tells you, * If you had less men, you would have less kill- & Mart, 1693. — Debate on the 1796 ed and I say, if you had had none, you would have liud none killed. If the French king be wearier of the W ar than we, less money will carry it on. The manner of collecting the Tax, &c. baa been a Grievance, but nothing has been said of an Excise. If the French king can, you caa easily carry on your Taxes; he will be the sooner weary. But why should we be surprized that this is a greater Estimate of our Forces? Clarges is an able member, and always speaks to instruction. He tells you of precedents. Sec. But was a kingdom ever in such a condition, the enemy stionger than you? I am sensible that, in the lata reign, people without doors were ready to give, who now value themselves upon saving your money, w hen you are upon the utmost extremity. I believe the country would rather part with their money, than dwindle away from year to year: suppose it should fall out, that the Confederates should leave us; but if we leave them, the French king will be quickly lull of money, and over-run us all. Sir Tho. Clarges.All Treaties last time were defensive, not offensive, and that with Denmark should not extend to an offensive war with France, Sir John Tienchard*. The last year you sent such an Address to the king, and the Treaties were laid before you. The Treaty of Charles 2, with the States. I propose that this lie upon the table, and the house consider whether the whole or part. Sir Tho.Clarges. The Treaties before you the last time were partly defensive. I remember, the Treaties of Charles 2 were brought to us. All defensive Treaties. ‘ They shall be' maintained at the charge of the party sending; ’ but is it for us to be at all the charges? If aid be called for from us, we must judge of the Treaties. Sir Christ. Musgrave. I was one of the first that made the motion for these Treaties, and see no reason why we should relinquish it. But yoO have been told, by Trenchard, of new concerts; therefore I would know wluit before, and what augmentation must be made uow. J would have before us what should induce us to coiv-sent, and not do it, without knowledge; and if there be any Treaty, pray let us have it. I an» more concerned than before, since a general Excise’ has been tal ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- eir merits in promoting the Abdication. One of which, rather than he would quit that topic, cast a very undecent reflection upon the P. of O. his first Declaration, wherein his highness was careful to avoid all expressions, as if he had the least design upon the crown:and yet this doughty knight (sir J. Guise) affirmed, that at Exeter, in recoiupence of his service, in going to fetch, and accompany the prince hither, to the hazard of his life and fortune, he had promised him the Weeding, that is, the Underwood of the forest of Dean. This sort of claim of merit, not only opens a wide gap to let in sw-arms of other pretenders, but manifestly shews that the price of the Abdication is never to be discharged, while such jackalls are able to find prey for the Belgick lion, or till the people (when they are made sensible of such combination) shall take some effectual course to secure their purses, which they ought more to endeavour than against highwaymen, and their underhand setters, who fleece not whole countries and kingdoms, as these Pensioners do. Surely we ought to learn something from camels and dromedaries, beasts of burden, who crouch down to take up their load; but when they find it more than they are able to bear, either refuse to rise, or else cast their load. I leave the application; though I know it will not be made by such as design to load us till our backs are broke; and that, by a seeming contradiction, of laying the heaviest burden upun us, by taking all we have from us." It w’as about this time also that the famous " Hush-money Paper, " as it was called, was set forth; wherein it is said, " That the house of commons is so officered, that by those that have Places and Pensions, together with their sons, brothers and kinsmen, and those who are fed with the hopes of preferment, and the too great influence these have upon some honest, mistaken, country gentlemen, (who arc possibly over-frighted with the French) that the king can baffle any Bill, quash all Grievances, stifle Accounts, and rectify the Articles of Limerick." And, again, " I could name a certain gentleman, who exactly resembles Harry Guy, that the last sessions, when SI 1] PARL. HISTORY, 5 William & Mary, 1693. — Supply, [S12 sent inclosed under covers, directed to several members ot this house; one of which was produced, and delivered in at the table; the titles whereof were read; Resolved, " 1. That the said blasphemous jointed Pamphlet be burnt by the hands of the common hangman, upon Wednesday next, in the Palace-Yard, W estminster: and that the serjeant at arms attending this house do s»e the same performed. 2. That a committee be appointed to enquire into the author, printer, ami publisher, of the said blasphemous printed Pamphlet; and to make their report thereof to the house." Debate on the Supply.] The house went into a grand committee, on the Supplyf. Several Treaties were read. the house was a little out of humour, disposed of no less than 10,000l. in three days time, for Secret Services. Who are in Places we may find out, but God knows who have Pensions; yet every man that made the least observation can remember, that some who opened loudly at the beginning of the last sessions, who came up as tuner as possible lor Reformation, bad their mouths soon stopped with Hush-Money, e king shall make use of his negative voice, in such a case, it is very hard. I humbly propose, ‘ That we may address, that such Rejection may be a means to alienate the hearts of the people/ I would not have farther proce ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- esta, were given. In the reign of the archbishop of'Canterbury (for then the Bishops were for the people’s good) advised the king to pass the bills tendered. I conclude with Harley’s motion, and others, That an humble Representation be made to his majesty, &c/ Sir Walter Yonge. I would have gentlemen consider whether this is the only bill rejected for our good. I would net have the Triennial Bill named in the question, but I desire the words (other public bills, ’ in general, may be in the question. Mr. Clarke. I second the same. Sir Henry Goodrich. To agree so solemnly, in such an Address, is so severe upon the king, that I cannot agree to it. His majesty being so much abroad tor our service, venturing his life almost ever since his coming to the crown, had made him not so acquainted with methods of parliament. I would humbly move therefore, ‘ That an Address be made upon the first Vote ouly." Mr. Charles Montagu. I shall always be for the liberties of the people, and for the prerogative of the crown. If the crown hath a negative voice, then why not exercised on this bill, as well as on any other; It was formerly only, and that in the highest times, and by the highest men, that the king cannot deny us bills of right and justice. But thi$ is for altering your constitution, not to allow the king a negative voice. None spoke in the Debate, but those before, only sir Charles Sedley, who was not heard. But almost all before, and many other also, spoke to the stating the questions, about which there was very much debate. The questions at last were agreed to, the lirst as above, the second as follows. Some debate also was; ‘ That it should be an humble Address, ’ which was taken to be of a softer nature than a Representation/ though this was not so hard a word as ‘ a Remonstrance/ Resolved, " That a Representation be made to his majesty, humbly to lay before him, how few the instances have been, in former reigns, of denying the royal assent to bills for redress of Grievances; anil the great grief of the commons for his not having given the royal assent to several public bills; and particularly to tli£ Bill touching free and impartial Proceedings in f Sic Orig. 833] PARL. HISTORY, 5 William & Mart, lC'93-4. — Place-Bill. [S34 Parliament, which tended so much to the clearing the reputation of this house; nfier their having so freely voted to supply the public Occasions:" XV iiich was agreed to by the house, and a Committee was appointed to draw it up. The Commons’Represent at ion to the King thereon.] Jan. 27. Col. Granville reported the ' following humble Representation to his majesty, viz. " We your majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Commons in parliament assembled, think ourselves bound in duty to your majesty, humbly to represent, that the usage of parliament in all limes hath hetn, that what Bills hate been agreed by both houses for the redress of Grievances, or other public good, have, when tendered to the throne, obtained the royal assent; and that there are very few instances, in former reigns, where.such assent, in such cases, has not been given; and those attended with great inconveniences to the crown of England; especially where the same has been withheld by insinuations of particular persons, without the Advice of the Privy-Council, thereby creating great dissatisfactions and jealousies in the minds of the people. — Your Commons therefore, out of their sincere desire of the welfare of your majesty and your government, and that you may always reign in prosperity and happiness in the adection of your subjects, cannot, without great grief of heart, rellect, that, since your majesty’s accession to the crown, several public bills, made by advice of both houses of parliament, have not obtained the royal assent; and, in particular, a Bill intituled, An Act touching free and impartial Proceedings in Parliament, ’ which was made to redress a Grievance, and take oft* a scandal relating to the proceedings of your commons in parliament, after they had freely voted great supplies for the public occasions; which they can impute to uo other cause than your majesty’s being unacquainted with the constitutions of parliament, and the insinuations of particular persons, who take upon them, for their own particular euds, to advise your majesty contrary to the Advice of parliament; and therefore cannot look upon them but as enemies to your majesty and your government. — Upon these considerations, we humbly beseech your majesty to believe, that none can have so great a concern and interest in the prosperity and happiness of your majesty, and your government, as your two houses of parliament; and do therefore humbly pray, that, for the future, you will be graciously pleased to harken to the Advice of your parliament, and not to the secret advice of particular persons, who may have private interests of their own, separate from the true interest of your majesty, and your people * Instead of this last Paragraph, the following was originally drawn up by the Committee, but, on the Report, rejected by the house: " We beg, sir, you will be pleased to consider us as answerable to those we represent; and it Vol. V. The King's zlnstrer.] Jan. 31. The Speaker reported, That his maj. had been pleased to give the following Answer to the Representation:Gemleii- u; I am very sensible of the good affections you have expressed to me, upon many occasions, and of the zeal you have ' shown fur our common interest: I shall make use of this opportunity to tell you, that no prince ever had a higher esteem for the constitution of the English government than myself; and that I shall ever have a great regard to the Advice of parliaments. I am persuaded that nothing can so much conduce to the happiness and welfare of this kingdom, as an entire confidence between the king and people; which I shall, by all means, endeavour to preserve:and I assure you, I shall look upon such persons to be my enemies, who shall advise any thing that may lessen it is from your goodness we must expect arguments to soften to them, in some measure, the necessary hardships they are forced to undergo in the present conjuncture; and therefore humbly beseech your majesty, for the removing all Jealousies from your people, (without which the parliament will be less able to serve your majesty, or to support the government) to he pleased to follow the course of the best of your predecessors; and to direct some expedient, whereby your majesty, your parliament, and people may reap the fruit designed by that Bill, to which your majesty, by ill advice, was pleased so lately to deny the royal assent." * In the Jacobite paper, called, The Price of the Abdication, " is the following Passage:" It might have been expected, that a direct and categorical Answer should have been given to so home an Address; yet it seems the house, for all the millions given, must be treated only with whipt cream, nr perfumed air; which would not have satisfied, if the Adepti had not found their account in a previous treat of a 23,000l. distribution, " The same writer also adds, " That if any of our preceding kings had given such an Answer upon a Petition of Right, or the like occasion, it would have enraged an hornet’s nest: and no less than the voting a fresh Address, or adjourning till they received a more satisfactory Answer, would have contented the house." And, again, 44 How can any say, 4 He hath a great regard to the Advice of Parliaments ?* When, at that very same instant, neither the Advisers of the rejecting tho Bill are delated, nor the prayer of the Repie-sent.ntion touched upon. 4 How can one be persuaded, 4 That nothing can 90 much con- ddee to the happiness and welfare of this kingdom, as an entire confidence between the king and people, ’ without explaining what people are intended ? For the complex body of the people, and Pensioners, have very different interests; and the majority of the representative people, were, at the voting the Representation at least, no such confidents, neither when the Le Roy advisera was pronounced, could it be truly said, That he would, by all means, 9 U v 35] PARL. HISTORY, 5 Willias & Mary Debate on the King’s Answer.] Feb. 1. Mr. Paul Foley. I am of opinion that the king’s Answer to the Representation does not come up to what is aimed at; that we aimed at a settlement in the point, to have all our reasonable hills of right to he passed; hut since it can be no otherwise done, we must tack our.Grievances to our Money-bills; fur we have just Fears and Grievances ns long as we have a stauding Army. The king tells us, ‘ lie has a great regard to our constitutionbut it appears not that tie understands our constitution, which he may take to be to reject our lulls of ever so just Grievances. I move That an humble Address may be made to the king for a farther Answer. ’ Sir Kobert Cotton. What is said in the king’s Answer tends to full satisfaction (And so reads each Paragraph, and with strained inferences descants thereon, like a courtier.) Mr. Hutchinson. The king says, lie is sensible of the good affection we have expressed on many occasions 1 am sorry it should nut be expressed on alt occasion^. The king may still reject our hills as before, for any assurance given us in his Answer. 1 think that, unless you keep the love of the people (whose Money you have freely disposed of) by securing to the people what the king promised at first, good correspondence with the king cannot be. (And so reflects on Officers.) Sir Tho. Littleton. It is hard to reflect on hi* majesty’s words in such wise, by making endeavour to preserve it; when, contrary to expectation and intercet, if the maxim laid down be true, the prince rejected so solemn an Advice. Since, therefore, such apparent flaws may be found in the assertory part, it will be worth our enquiry, how they are amended in the promissory part of the Answer, in these words. And, 1 assure you, I shall look upon * such persons as my enemies, which shall ad- * vise any thing that shall lessen it.’ Even Ora- cles never wanted ambiguity. The commons declare who were enemies to the king and kingdom:here those are characterized who must be reputed enemies to the king only. It is not tanti, whether they be enemies to the kingdom or not, so as they be fast friends to the king. How dexterous soever the Advisers of the Answer thought themselves, the not complying with the parliamentary Advice, and the so loose answering an Address of that importance, will more than once rivet it in the minds of the people, That a Pensionary Party, however unfaithful of the interests of the body of the people, are only to be caressed, and have the character of friends; and the true patriots of their country must be calumniated wit ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14 101 159 18 * 10, 672 16 2 420, 927 19, 694 10 -i 401.232 1 Tho. Charges, Tho. Pope Blount, Edw. Abney, Paul Foley, Char. Hutchinson, Ja. Houblou, Ro. Harley. Ordered, That the consideration of the said State and Abstracts be referred to the committee of the whole house, to whom it is referred to consider further of Ways and Means for raising the Supply to he granted to his majesty, for carrying on the war against France with vigour. Proceedings of the Commons against Bribery and Corruption.] January 12. The most remarkable business of this session was the Inquiry into Bribery, and the timely Check given to the most scandalous and dangerous Corruption, which had lately tainted, Vol. V. not only the agents of the army, and several members of the bouse of commons, but also the Speaker himself, and crept into his majesty’s Privy-council. The Inquiry into these corrupt practices was as accidental as necessary. In the account of it, mention is made of the monstrous sums of thousands, and lens of thousands; yet, at the first, the payment of a petty sum of 10/. or less, had certainly prevented the discovery, the rise of which was from a Petition from some of the inhabitants of Royston in Hertfordshire against the Abuses of Otncers ami Soldiers ui exactuig Subsistence 3 L SS3] Money. The Petition which was presented on the 12th of January, set forth, " That captain Henry Cartwright's company of foot, belonging to colonel Hastings’ regiment, being now quartered at Royston, demand the several sums following to be paid them weekly by the Petitioners for their Subsistence, over and above their lodging, and other necessaries, as the law requires; viz. To the lieutenant, 17s. to the ensign, 14s.; the serjeant, 6s.; every corporal, 4s. tid.; and every private centinel, 3s.; and threaten for non-payment to take the Petitioners goods:That the Petitioners are willing to give them such Subsistence as they are able to do, and as the law directs; but are not able to bear a Grievance of this nature, having formerly been great sufferers by quartering two companies of sir John Edgworth’s regiment, from the 12th Feb. 1688 to the 13th of April 1689; for which the Petitioners never were paid one farthing: and praying the house to take the premises into consideration." Ordered, 1. That capt. Henry Cartwright be summoned to attend this house on Friday .next. 2. That the lieutenant and ensign of his company be also summoned to attend. Jan. ID. Mr. Crosfeild attending, according to order, he was called in, and acquainted, That the house had taken notice of a printed Book delivered at the door of the lobby; by which he pretends, That he can make a discovery of great Embezzlements of public Monies: and that the house was ready to hear what lie had to offer in relation thereunto. Whereupon he acquainted the house, That he had Proposals to make; and could produce several persons to make out the matter, if the house would put the same into a way of examination upon oath. And then withdrew. Ordered, That the said Mr. Crosfeild do attend the Commissioners for taking and stating the public Accounts; and do lay before them his Proposals: and that they do examine the matter thereof; and report the same to the house, with all convenient speed. Jan. 23. The house proceeded in the Examination of the matter of the Complaint of the inhabitants of Iloyston: and agent Tracy Pauncefort attending, according to order, he was called in, and examined. The Lieutenant and Ensign of Captain Cartwright's Company were called in, together with the said Agent Pauncefort, and all examined. Resolved, nem. con. That the Officers and Soldiers of the Army demanding and exacting Subsistence-money in their quarters, or upon their march, is arbitrary and illegal, and a great violation of the Rights and Liberties of the subject." Ordered, 1. That the Commissioners for taking and stating the Public Accounts do, upon Friday next, lay before this house their Observations of the Abuses, a ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nding Highway-men, Receivers Rewards, &c. 40,000l. 21. Payment of her late Ma- jesty’s Servants, and Debts, for the year 1695, 50,000l." The first 12 of the said Resolutions, being severally read a second time, were agreed unto by the house. The 13th Resolution being read a second time; an Amendment was proposed to be made, by adding and that no other Pension already granted, or to be granted, shall be paid during the War:’ and the same was, upon the question put thereupon, agreed unto by the h"UNe. Resolved, u That the house do agree with the Committee in the said Resolution, so amended, That all other Pensions and Annuities, payable out of any Branches of the Revenue, except as aforesaid, be suspended during the War; and that no other Pension already granted, or to be granted, shall be paid during the War." The rest of the said Resolutions, being severally read a second time, were agreed to by the bouse. Representation of the Commons to the King, on the Abuses and ill Practices Agents, J Feb. 26. Mr. Gwyn reported from the Committee appointed to prepare an humble Representation to be made to his majesty, that they had prepared the same accordingly: which they had directed him to report to the house; which he read in his place; and afterwards delivered in at the clerk’s table:where the same was read. And the question being put, That the said Representation be re-oominitted; the house divided:Yeas 83, Noes 168. So it passed in the negative. Then the house proceeded upon the same, paragraph by paragraph: and some amendments were made to the same by the house. And then the same was read, and agreed unto by the house; as fulloweth; viz. u We, your majesty’s roo9t dutiful and loyal subjects, the commons, in this present parliament assembled, do, from a true and unfeigned zeal for your majesty’s person and government, which God long preserve:and from the obligation that lieth upon us, in behalf of those whom we represent, most humbly lay before your majesty the Grievance we lie under, by some of the Officers and Soldiers of the Army, in raising money upon the country, under pretence of Subsistence; which is such a violation of the liberty and property of your subjects, that it needeth no aggravation. — This is, in great measure, occasioned by the undue Practices of some of the Agents and Officers; the particulars of which we beg leave to lay before your majesty, in order to the more effectual preventing the like miscarriages for the future. L Some of the Agents amongst other their ill practises, have detained tile Money due to the soldiers in their hands, and made use of it for their own advantage, instead of immediately applying it to the subsistence of the Officers and Soldiers, for whom they were intrusted. 2. Their intolerable Exactions, and great extortions, upon the officers and soldiers, for paying money by w ay of advance; their charging more for the discount of tallies, than they actually paid: by which fraudulent imposing upon those who serve in your majesty’s armies, it appeareth, That notwithstanding they have a greater pay than is given in any other part of the world, they are yet reduced to inconveniencies and extremities, which ought not to be put upon those who venture their lives for the honour and safety of the nation. 3. In particular, col. Hastings hath compelled some officers of his regiment to take their deaths from him at extravagant rates, by confining and threatening those who would not comply therewith:by which the authority that may be necessary to be lodged in the colonel, over die inferior offi- 8J)3] PARL. HISTORY, 6 William III. 1694-5. —, [894 cers, in tome cases, is misapplied, and extended po as to promote a private advantage of his own, without any regard to your majesty’s service, or to the discipline of the Army. 4. Col. Hastings’s agent hath presumed fraudulently to detain 500 guineas, out of a bounty given by your majesty to the officers of that regiment, under pretence of giving them as a bribe to obtain the same; to the dishonour of your majesty, and injury to the officers thereof: and hath taken 2d. per pound out of the Money due to the Officers and Soldiers; for which deduction, there being no warrant, the colonel, whose servant the agent is, is answerable. 5. Col. Hastings’s Agent hath refused, or neglected to give an Account of the pay due to the Captains of his regiment, and their companies; which tends apparently to the defrauding the Officers and Soldiers. 6. Some of the Agents assume to themselves the liberty of making great Deductions; which, since they know not how to justify, they endeavour to cover, by putting them under the shelter of the uncertain head of Contingencies; which giveth them the better opportunity of hiding the frauds and abuses that would otherwise be more liable to be detected. 7. Col. Hastings hath discharged an ensign, by putting another into his room, contrary to the true discipline of an Army; from which the colonels have no right to exempt themselves, to in large their own authority, to the prejudice of your majesty’s service, and of the officers who serve under them. 8. Col. Hastings hath taken money for the recommending to commands in his regiment, to the great discouragement of the officers, who are to serve in your majesty’s armies; who ought to be such as deserve their commands, and not such as pay for them. — These things w e most humbly represent to your majesty, in confidence of having them redressed by your majesty’s justice and wisdom. — Your loyal commons, as they have been always ready to supply vour majesty, cannot but be sensible of such Miscarriages, as may either diminish the strength of your armies, or the affections of your people: and it is from a principle of the highest duty, that we take this way of applying ourselves to your majesty for redress; having an intire assurance, That this our most humble Representation will uot only be graciously accepted; but that our expectations from it will be fully answered." The King's Ansner.] March 6. To this his majesty was pleased to reply: " Gentlemen; I will consider your Representation, and take all care possible to have the Grievances redressed.’’ * * " And so far he had already thought fit to interpose, that on the 19th of F*. b. he had been pleased to order in Council, That the chief 'Officers of the Army should meet tw ice a week, to receive and examine all Informations and Complaints that should be brought before them, against any officer or soldier in his majesty’s pay, in order to redrew the same. It is true, CraggSy an Army Clothie, refuses to produce his JSoo/cs.j March 6. Mr. Foley acquainted the house, That, in proceeding upon the Accounts of Mr. Pauncefort, they conceived it necessary to send their precept to Mr. James Craggs, one of the Clothiers, of the Army, to attend them this morning, and bring with him the Books of Account kept for himself and partners, in relation to the Cloathing; which he did not obey; but sent an Answer to the said Commissioners, in writing, excusing die same; which Mr. Foley presented to the house; and delivered in at the clerk’s table: where the same was read, as followed]: The Answer of Mr. James Craggs to the Precept of the honourable the Commissioners for putting in execution the Act, intituled, An Act for appointing and enabling Commissioners to examine, take, and state, the public Accounts of the Kingdom; dated at York-buildings, the 4th of March 1694. u The said James Craggs humbly answereth, and saith, That he is not any way a public receiver, agent, or officer, relating to any part of the revenue of the crown; but hath only dealt and traded in partnership, with divers other merchants and dealers, in buying and selling many sorts of goods; and particularly, he and his partners have sold cloathing to several colonels of the army; and have not received any part of their money, but from the said colonels, or their orders, to whom they sold their goods. — And as to that part of the foresaid Precept, which requires him to attend upon the honourable Commissioners, for stating the public Accounts of the kingdom, on the 6th inst. with all the Books of Accounts, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- not only . lose advantages, which we might have had at the beginning of the campaign, hut gave the enemy such an opportunity as might have proved very fatal to us: and I am the more concerned to press this, because of the great preparations which the French make, to be early in the field this year. — My Lords; I have had such experience of your good affections; and I have such an entire satisfaction in the choice which my people have made of you, Gentlemen of the House of Commons; that I promise myself a happy conclusion of this session, unless you suffer yourselves to be misled into heats and divisions: which, being the only hope our enemies have now left, I make no doubt but you will entirely disappoint, by your prudence and love to your country." Addresses of both House.] Both Houses, in their respective Addresses, with great zeal and unanimity, congratulated the glorious success of his majesty’s arms abroad, and his safe return home; and likewise returned his majesty Thanks for the trust and confidence he reposed in their affections; assuring him, that they would support his majesty and his government against all his enemies foreign and domestic, and effectually assist him in the prosecution of the present war, in which he was engaged for the safety of England, and liberty of Europe. The Commons Address being presented by the whole house, his majesty gave them this Answer: The King’s Answer.] " Gentlemen, I heartily thank you for the marks you give me of your, affection: our interests are inseparable, and there is nothing I wish so much as the happiness of this country, where God has placed me." Bill for regulating Trials in Cases of Treason.] Nov. 26. The Bill 1 for Regulating Trials in Cases of Treason and Misprision of Treason/ which had been several times lost in the former parliaments, was again brought into the house of commons, and in a short time read three times there, and sent up to the lords for their concurrence, by which many hardships upon the liberty of the subject were removed, or mitigated: for it was hereby enacted, "That all persons indicted for High Treason, or Misprision of it, shall have a copy of the indictment five days before their Trial, and shall be admitted to make their deli nee by councils learned in the law, not exceeding two. That -Bill for regulating Trials for Treason. no person shall he indicted or attainted, but by the oaths of two lawful witnesses. That no person shall he prosecuted, unless the Indictment be found within three years after the offence committed. That all persons indicted shall have copies of the Jury two days before their trial; and shall have like process to compel their witnesses to appear before them, as is usually granted to witnesses against them." To this Bill the lords added the Clause they had always insisted upon; " That upon the Trial of any peer or peeress for treason or misprision, alt the peers who have a right to sit and vote in parliament, shall be duly summoned 20 days at least before such Trial, and shall not vote without first taking the Oaths appointed by the Act 1 W. & Mary, and subscribing and repeating the Declaration mentioned in the Act made 30 Car. 2:" which Clause was agreed to by the commons.0 Nov. 30. The many Protections given to the servants of Parliament-men, nnd the taking men into custody upon complaints of the breach of tiiose Protections, was really become a grievance to (he subject; and therefore it was ordered, " That all Protections and written Certificates of the members of this house be declared void in law, and he forthwith withdrawn and called in, and thut none be grautpl for the future; and that if any should he granted by any member, such member shall be liable to the censure of this house; and that the privileges of their ipenial servants be observed according to law; and'that, if any menial servant shall be arrested and detained contrary to privilege, he shall, upon complaint thereof, made to the Speaker, he discharged by order from him: and that no jierson shall he taken into custody upon complaint of any ♦ " It is remarkable, that, while this Bill was depending in the lower-house, the lord Ashley, afterwards earl of Shaftsbury, and author of the Characteristics, who was then a member of that house, and very zealous for the Bill, and particularly that part of it, which allows Council to a prisoner, had prepared a speech in its behalf, wJ’.ich those, to whom he shewed it, thought a very proper one on the occasion. Bur, when he stood up to speak it in the house of commons, the great audience so intimidated him, that he lost all memory, and was unable to proceed/ The house, after giving him a little time to recover his coufu-sion, called loudly upon him to go on, when he Kroceeded to this effect: " If I, sir (addressing imself to the Speaker) who rise only to give my opinion on the Bill now depending, am so confounded, that I am unable to express the least of what I proposed to say; what must the condition of that roan be, who without any assistance is pleading for his life, and finder apprehensions of being deprived of it?" This sudden turn of wit, which by some was imagined to be premeditated, though it really was not, is said to be of service in promoting the Bill." Gen. Diet. Hist, and CriW vol. ix. 967] PARL. HISTORY, 7 William lit. 1 [963 breach of privileges of this house, before the matter be first examined; ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- that seemed to be very probable; viz. For the Navy - 2, 500,000 For two Marine Regiments - 16, 972 For the Army consisting of 87, 440 men, horse, foot and dragoons - 2, 007, 881 For the Ordnance, Ike. - - - - 500,000 £. 5, 024, 853 Pursuant to that part of the king’s Speech relating to the Civil List, and to the distressed condition of the French Protestants, the commons also settled a Fund for raising 500,000 for the Civil List, and 15,000l. a year for the French Protestants. The funds for raising the Supplies and Civil Ltet were, 1. A land-tax of 4s. a pound. 2. Duties continued upon wine and vinegar, tobacco, East-Indin goods, and other merchandizes, from 1698 to 1701. 3. Additional duty upon all French goods, wines 25/. a tun, brandy 30/. a tun, vinegar 15s. a tun, all other French goods 25/. per cent, ad valorem, for the term of twenty-one years. 4. Duties upon low-wines, or spirits of the first extraction. 5. Duties coutinued upon salt, glass-wares, tobacco-pipes, &c. Proceedings on the ill Slate of the Coin.] The lords were considering that part of the king’s Speech that related to the (11 State of the Coin, and had drawn up an Address, to which, in a conference, they desired the concurrence of the commons, who chose rather to proceed in their own way, by appointing a Committee, who should have power to consider of a Fund to make good the deficiency of the dipt Money. And here the great question was, Whether it was necessary or expedient to recoin the Silver-Money? The Country-party held the negative; the Court-party the athrmative; and the arguments were weighed on both sides. The Reasons against calling in, and recoining the Money were, " That this was no fit juncture for ity while the nation was engaged in a burthensome and doubtful war, by which the kingdom had already greatly sulFercd, and of which it grew every day more sensible. That therefore the people, on whose good alTection the government so much defended, should not be provoked by fresh Grievances, greater than any they had vet felt, as those would certainly be, that must arise from tlte calling in the Silver-Coin. That if this was done, however things might be managed and accommodated tit home, it were impossible to maintain the commerce or the war, abroad; for neither the merchant could be paid his bills of exchange, nor the soldier receive his subsistence. That this was to lay the ax to the root, and to dig up tl>e foundation of the government. That if this design was prosecuted, trade must stand still for want of mutual payments; whence such disorder and confusion would certainly follow, as would discourage and dishearten the people in the highest measure, if not drive them to a perfect despair, as despair would to the most terrible extremities. That therefore fhe recoining the money at this time was by no means to be attempted without hazarding all." It was alledged by those of the contrary opinion, at the head of whom appeared Mr. Charles Montague, Chancellor of the Exchequer, u That the mischief would he fatal, if a present remedy was not found out and applied. That by reason of the ill State of the Coin, the change abroad wras infinitely to the nation’s prejudice. That the supplit s that were raised to maintain the Army would never attain their end, being so much diminished and devoured by the unequul change, and exorbitant Premiums before they reached the camp. That this was the unhappy cause that thegumeas advanced to 30s. and foreign gold in proportion: That therefore to the nation’s great loss, not only the Dutch, hut indeed all Europe sent that commodity to this market, and would continue to do so, till the nation should be impoverished and undone by plenty of gold. That we must exchange for their gold our goods, or our silver, till at last we should have only guineas to trade withal; which no body could think our neighbours would be so kind to receive back, at the value they were at here. That therefore this disease would every day take deep ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- raders, to desire that the difficulties and losses in their trade and payments, occasioned by the rise of guineas, might be taken into consideration; the bouse first ordered a bill to be brought in, for taking off the obligation and encouragement of coining guineas for a certain time; and then proceeded to the lowering their value, wherein they met with some opposition. The reasons against the sinking the price of guineas were, that the people were easy, and pleased with it: that abundance of people would be losers, in whose hands the guineas should be at last found, which would raise great * This was grown to such an extravagance, that one ale-house, near the Royal Exchange, had, in silver tankards, to the value of above 500/. t See Burner, Boyer, Tindal, and the Works of lord Halifux. disturbance and clamour in the nation; thai therefore it ought to be considered, how far it was fit to incense the common people in this juncture of affairs, who had already suffered so much by the war. Those, who were for reducing the price of guineas, argued, that there was as great reason to bring down guineas, as there was to recoin the silver money at the old standard. And here they reckoned up the mischiefs mentioned before on that head. That however the parliament might be obliged to manage by the necessity of affairs, and to suffer for a time the guineas to pass at that excessive rate, that in some measure there might be a currency of money, while the Mints were employed in new coining the silver; yet pow they were obliged to sink the price nearer the old standard, that the silver money might not be stopped and hoarded up as fast as issued out from the Mints. And that, whatever losses and inconveniences the people might suffer by reducing of guineas, yet the mischiefs that arose, and would daily increase from not doing it, infinitely overbad lanced those on the other side. Upon this the commons resolved to lower the price of guineas; and, that they might do it with less grievance and disquiet to the people, they at first reduced them from 30 to 28s.; afterwards to 26, till at last a clause was inserted in the bill1 For en- couraging the bringing Plate to the Mint/ whereby they were settled at 22i. from which they naturally sunk to their former price of 21*. ana 6d. However, it is to be observed, that though the parliament lowered the value of the guineas, hoping by that means to bring out the . new money into circulation, yet by the artifice and management of some men the people were made to believe, that the price of gold would be raised at the next session: upon which many persons, who had great sums of guineas, kept them close in their chests. By this means, though the circulation of the new money was a little promoted, yet that of guineas, by which the nation chiefly subsisted, was -considerably obstructed; the new silver money too, which the people were likewise industriously persuaded to believe would be advanced in value, when the parliament should come next together, was for that reason in a great measure hoarded up, to the great damage of commerce. Another evil arose during the recoining of the money; a general loss of credit which indeed shook the state. But this was cured by a seasonable and wise remedy, which the parliament applied the next session; and on the other hand such diligence was used, not only in the Mint of the ' Tower, but likewise in those, which the king caused to be set up in York, Bristol, Exeter, and Chester, that at last this great undertaking of the highest difficulty, yet of absolute necessity, was happily accomplished, to the immortal honour of the parliament in general, and in particular of Mr. Chailes Montague, who hud the chief management of this w eighty and arduous affair, which was executed with an order and justice, and quiet and exactness, beyond all 75] PARL. HISTORY, 7 William Hi. men's expectation; so that the nation was freed from a great and threatening'mischief, without any of those effects, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- , of several thousands of acres, rich and valuable mines, besides other advantages a mighty favourite and great courtier might make out of this country. — Your Petitioners being casually informed last summer, that a Grant to the earl of Portland, of the lordships of Denbigh, Bromfield and Yale, was at the Treasury, in order to be passed, your Petitioners did oppose the said grant; and, upon considering the grant, they found not only the three lordships, but also near 3,000l. per ann. of your petitioners and their countrymens ancient inheritances expressly granted. So that, if all that w’as conprized in the grant had passed, it had been a very noble, nay royftl gift, worth at least 100,000l. Nor was this grant made for -$MJ PARL. HISTORY, f William III. 16Q5. — Grant to the Earl of Portland. [982 any short time to this noble lord, being to him and his heirs for' ever; and yet not much to the advantage of the crown, having only a reservation of 6s. 8 d.a year to the king and his •accessors. — These facts were laid before the Lords of the Treasury, by your Petitioners, who cannot say, but they were well heard, well understood, and hope, truly represented; only with this remark, that the docket signed by the Lords of the Treasury for the Grunt, was dated and carried to the privy-seal, a month before the Lords of the Treasury had ordered your Petitioners to be heard at the Treasury against tire Grant. The next stage we had was to attend that noble Grant from the t reasury to the privy seal, where, I must confess, our reasons nod complaints were heard with all candour and goodness, by that noble lord who had (lie custody of the seal; and I believe sincerely, has truly represented the whole affair; and that is the reason, at present, that this Grant halts, I suppose, till the parliament rises, and then I doubt Dot but it will find legs and take its journey. — Having made our applications in the proper place, to stop the said Grant, and that without success, it becomes a Grievance, and we hope this honourable house will redress it. These lordships, for many ages, have been the revenues of the kings of England, the support of several princes of Wales, have been settled upon them and their heirs, by sundry patents of the kings, and confirmed by several acts of parliament. — This royal dominion, in most reigns, has been attacked by great and powerful favourites, but with little success; for in the 4th of queen Elizabeth, some parts of this revenue were granted to some of her creatures, but attended with so many law-suits and general disturbances, that the queen interposed and the freeholders gave large compositions for their peace, and the queen, by Iter charter, confirmed their estates. — In the 4th year of king James 1 these lordships were settled upon Prince Charles and his heirs, kings of England; ut his servants were, as most courtiers are, willing to make use of their opportunities, and had gotten some grants of great part of these revenues, and proved so vexations and troublesome to the country, that the freeholders came to another composition, and gave 10,000l. for their peace, and for the settling of their estates, tenure and commons, which were confirmed by parliament, in the 3rd year of the reign of king Charles 1. — In the late reigns, however calumniated, there were many and great applications made for gmuts of some members and parts of thefe lordships, which were always rejected, as too powerful a trust for a subject. If the parts were so, what shall the grant of the whole be ? History and records tell us, that the grants of these lordships have been very fatal to either prinoe or patentees; the one either lost his crown, or the other his Lead. It is therefore dangerous meddling with such ominous bounties. — I must likewise observe to you, that the Long Parliament in Wm« Charles ynd’s reign, when they passed an act for the Fee-Farm Rents, excepted those within the principality of Wales; which i9 a plain intimation, that the par ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- our swords in our hands: nnd that we cuu have no reason to expect a sale and honourable peace, but by shewing ourselves prepared to make a vigorous and effectual war: In order to which, I do very earnestly recommend to you, Gentlemen of the House of Commons, that you would consider of raising the necessary .Supplies, as well for maintaining the honor of parliaments in making good the Funds already granted, as for carrying on the war the next year: which I think ought not to he less than what was intended to be raised for ^hat purpose the last session — I must also put you in mind of the Civil-List, which cannot be supported without your help; and the miserable condition of the French Protestants does oblige me to mention them to you again, — M y lords and gefltlemen; It may deserve your consideration, whether there do not still remain some inconveniences relating clerks in chancery. Of ten who were condemned, eight were executed, and two pardoned. It is somewhat remarkable, that all the persons apprehended upon suspicion, were convicted upon the dearest evidence, and according to the forms of law, except sir. John l'emvick, in whose case government found it necessary to have recourse to a hill of attainder. The sentiments of the nation were divided vtitli respect to the propriety of this measure, and the severity of administration was generally condemned." Somerville. to the Coin, which ought to be remedied: and 1 hope you will find out the best expedients for the recovery of Credit, which is absolutely necessary, not only with respect to the War, but for carrying on of trade. I am of opinion, that there is not one good Englishman who is not entirely convinced, how much dots depend upon this session; and therefore I cannot but hope for your unanimity and dispatch in your resolutions, which at this time are more necessary than ever, for the safety and honour of England." The Commons' Address.] The commons having appointed their grand Committees, for Religion, for Grievances, for Trade, for Courts of Justice, and for Privileges and Elections, resolved, nem. con. " That they would support his majesty and his government against ail his enemies both at home and abroad, and that they would effectually assist him in the prosecution and carrying on the war against France: and that an humble Address should be prepared to be presented to his majesty pursuant to the said Resolution." Which'Address was drawn up by Mr. Montague, Chancellor of the Exchequer, and presented to his majesty' on Oct. 23d, by the whole house, in these words:" May it please your most excellent majesty; This is the eighth year in which your majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the commons in parliament assembled, have assisted your majesty with large supplies for carrying on a just and necessary war, in defence of our religion, preservation of our laws, and vindication of the rights and liberties of the people of England; which we have hitherto preserved; and, by the blessing of God, upon your majesty’s conduct and good government, will sted-fastly maintain and entail on our posterity. — This has cost the nation much blood and treasure, but the hopes of accomplishing so jjreat and glorious a work, have made your subjects chearfully support the charge. And to shew to your majesty, and to all Christendom, that the commons of England will not he amused, or diverted from their firm resolution of obtaining by war a safe and honourable peace, we do, in the name of all those we represent, renew our assurances to your majesty, that this house will support your majesty, and your government, against all your enemies both at home and abroad:and that they will effectually assist you in the prosecution and carrying on the present war against France." The King's Answer.] His majesty in Answer w as pleased to express himself thus: " Gentlemen; The continuance of your '/eal and aifcction is the thing of the world I value most, and I will answer it by all the ways I can think of: ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the discovery of the Author of that Libel. And two days after, the house being informed of a printed Paper, entitled, ‘ A summary Account of the Proceedings upon the happy Discovery of the Jacohite Conspiracy; ’ they resolved, That the printing the names of the members of their house, and reflecting on them for their proceedings in parliament, was a breach of the privileges of that house, and destructive of the freedom and liberties of parliament. Supplies voted for the Land and Nov. 4. The house having considered the State of the War for the Year 1697, both in relation to the Navy and Land-Forces, they granted the sum of 2, 372, 197/. for the maintenance of 40,000 Seamen, and of the two Marine Regiments, and for the Ordinary of the Navy, and the charge of the Registry of Seamen; and the sum of 2, 507, 882/. both for the maintaining 87, 440 men, which according to the List of the Land Forces delivered into the bouse, they voied uecessary to be employed in England, and beyond the sens; and for the extraordinary Service of the Office of Ordnance, the pay of the General Officers, and the charge of the Transports, Hospitals, and other contingencies of the war. Besides which, they 96. — Proceedings against Sir J. Fenwick. [998 afterwards, on Dec. the 23rd, voted a Supply of 125,000l. for making good the deficiency in recoining hammered money, and the recompence to be given for bringing plate into the Mints to be coined. Proceedings against Sir John Fenwick.* A Hill of Attainder ordered.] Nov. 6. Admiral Ru-sel acquainted the house, that his majesty had given leave to lay before the house several Papers in the nature of Informations * From the Journals, and a filial I volume entitled The Proceedings against sir Johu Fenwick printed at London in 1098. — " The great business of this session was a Bill relating to sir Johu Fenwick, who had been concerned in the late Assassination and Invasion Plot. This affair was ot such a nature, that it deserves to be related in u particular manner. Fenwick, endeavouring to llv over into France under the borrowed name of Tho. Ward, was seized at New Romney in Kent with Robert Webber, an attorney, and Irma thence brought up to London, aud, on the 11th ot'June 1690, commoted prisoner to the Tower, and afcrwaids to Newgate. As soon as he was apprehended, he wrote the following Letter, with a black lead penc I, to hi*. lady, but directed to Mrs. Farrar, her woman at the lady Carlisle’s. " What I feared i* at last happened. Ilad ‘ I come alone, 1 had done it; but the other * was betrayed from London. It i- God's will; * so we must submit. I know m thing can save ‘ my life, but my lord Carlisle’s going ove r to ‘ him (king William) backed by the rest of the * family of the Howards, to beg it; and offering, * that 1 will live abroad all his time, where I ‘ cannot hurt him; and that I will never draw * sword against him. 1 must leave it to you * what else to say. All friends must he made; ‘ my lord Devonshire may perhaps by inv lady; * my lord Godolphin and my lord Pembroke by 1 my lady Montgomery; Mr. Nelson by the * abp: ot Canterbury; my lord Arran minlit * engage his brother Selkirk to use his interest * with Keppel. I believe, if tny lord Carlisle * would go, it were best, before, my Trial; or ‘ else they will cut me short for want of time. ‘ If he can prevail with him for a pardon, he ‘ will procure it ns well before my trial as * after; at least, he may prevail for a reprieve * till some can come over to him. My lord * also will have an opportunity to engage Ben-1 tinck, (the earl of Portland) and get mv lord * of Essex to join with him. I cannot think * what else to say, but tin great care must be * the jury. If two or three could Le got, that (would starve the rest, that or nothing can ‘ save me. Money, I know, would do it; but ‘ alas! that is not to be had, nor shall I cet * enough for council. I begot you not to think * of being shut tip with me:I know it will kill * you; and besid ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- withdrawn. And it was said, that the Journals did take notice, that in some cases, as in the case of an adjourned debate, some Bills had been read four times; and so it was agreed, and that difficulty was solved. The Bill read to Sir John.] And the Ser- jeant took the mace, and brought sir J. Fenwick to the Bar; and counsel was admitted for him, and for the Bill, viz. Mr. Serj. Gould, King’s Serjeant, and Mr. Recorder Lovel, likewise King’s Serjeant. And sir Tho. Powis, and sir Barth. Shower, for sir John Fenwick, And the I Speaker opened the matter thus: Mr. Speaker. Sir John Fenwick, the house 1005] PARL. HISTORY, 8 William III. 1696- — upon a of Attainder. [100(5 have received Information that you have been in a horrid Conspiracy against the life of his majesty, and for bringing in a French force to invade this kingdom, that you have been indicted thereof; and they have considered the uature of the crime with which you stand charged, and how destructive it would have been, if it had succeeded, to the very being of this kingdom; and therefore, that you may not go unpunished, if you are guilty, have ordered a Rill to be brought into this house to attaint you for High Treason, which hath been once read, and will be now read to you at the bar; and then you will hear the Evidence against you, and have liberty to make your Defence:and though you cannot claim any right thereto, this house (to shew how ready they are to favour you, in giving you any reasonable help to make your Defence) do allow you Counsel to assist you therein; and having granted you this their favour, they do expect that you will make a good use of it. I am likewise to acquaint thore that are your Counsel, that this house do reckon their own prudence will so guide them, as not to give any just offence to this house; and that they will not be allowed to question the power of parliaments to pass Bills of Attainder, when they jud^e it requisite; of which this house is more proper to judge than any private person, and therefore they will not allow you to debate that point. Let the Bill be rea'd. [Clerk of the house of commons reads.] 4 Whereas sir John Fenwick, hart, was, upon * the oaths of George Porter, esq. and Cordel * Goodman, gent, at the sessions of Oyer and * Terminer held for the city of London, on the * 28th day of May, 1696, indicted of high treason, in compassing and imagining the death and destruction of his majesty, and adhering to his enemies, by consulting and agreeing * with several persons (whereof some have been already attainted, and others not vet brought to their trial for the said treason) at several meetings, to send Robert Charnock, since at- tainted and executed for higli treason, in con- * spiring to assassinate his majesty’s sacred person, whom God long preserve, to the late king James in France, to invite and encourage the French king to invade this kingdom with an armed force, by promising to join with and assist him with men and arms upon such invasion. And whereas the said sir John Fen- wick did obtuin his majesty's favour to have his trial delayed from time to time, upon his repeated promises of making an ingenuous and full confession of his knowledge of any design or conspiracy against his majesty’s person or government, and of the persons therein concerned. And whereas he has so far abused his majesty's great clemency and indulgence therein, that, instead of making such confession he hath contrived and formed false and scandalous papers as his informations, reflecting ou the lidelity of several noble peers, divers members of the house of commons, and others, only by hearsay; and contri* ing therein to uudermiue the government, and create 4 jealousies between the king and his subjects, 4 and to stifle the real conspiracy. And whereas Cordel Goodman, one of the witnesses against the said sir John Fenwick, to prove the said treason, lately and siuce the several times appointed for the trial of the said sir John Feu- wick, at one of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if he had any; and if you give him longer time, I suppose you will think fit that sir J. F. should give an account of what witnesses he shall make use of for his defence; and you will give an order for those wdtnesses.f Mr. Harcourt. If sir J. F’s. business roust * Because many lords v^ere in the gallery, f According to some accounts, sir Edward closed his speech thus:u I am of the same opinion with tiie Roman, who, in the case of Catiline, declared, he had rather ten guilty persons should escape, than one innocent should suffer." To which lieutenant-general Mordant is said to have replied as follows:' " The worthy member who spoke last seems to have forgot, that die Roman who made that declaration was suspected of being a Conspirator himsilf." 1017] PARL. HISTORY, 8 William III. 1696. — a of Attainder. [1018 be done, 1 hope we shall do it like rational men, and what we enact, be able to give a reasonable account of it in the preamble of the bill. As to the question proposed, your debates have ruy several ways: The first is, Whether sir J. F. shall be allowed further time ? And in this case, whoever I differ with, it is of that nature that I must desire the liberty of speaking my mind. 1 must .confess, I see no room for enlarging the time; and I shall humbly submit my opinion to other gentlemen, whether be should have further time to prepare his witnesses ? And for that, pray consider the nature of the matter before you. — Sir, there is nothing certain that isnlledged in the Bill; and should you allow him further time to answer that which is not alledged, I cannot imagine what effect you would have of it. It is said indeed, he stands indicted; but it is 110 where suggested, that he is guilty of that indictment. This general charge seems a great hardship There is no one thing that so many have been unjustly taken off by, as the uncertainty of alledging general facts in indictments of high-treason; nor has any thing been complained of in such trials for n greater grievance. What have you done in the bill for regulating of trials in cases of high-treason ? In that bill you have reformed that abuse, and taken care, that whatever treason a man might be guilty of, yet he shall nqyer, upon his Indictment, answer to any fact, unless the particular overt-act b£ expressly laid and affirmed in his Indictment. — That which seems most reasonable in this case to be done, is, not to enlarge the time; but when you think fitting to proceed, proceed upon what is before you. Here are some matters expressly alledged; let them go over the recital, see whether they can prove that; but I cannot imagine to what purpose y«u should give the prisoner further time to answer nothing; for that which is not charged is so. Mr. Finch. Sir, this is a question, in my opinion, of very great consequence:You are very well told from below, that this is an untrodden path; and I atn the more confirmed it is so from this debate. We are told, that sir J. F. or his counsel, could not be ignorant of what they were to prepare themselves for. For this was our meaning, says one gentleman, though I find the path is so untrod, we are very unfortunate in expressing of it, for we have not said it at all in this bill; * we have said, sir J. F. was iiKlicted, &c. sir J. F. hath had a copy of this bill sent him, counsel allowed him, and upon a second reading he comes to make his defence. We are tcld, t^e proceeding upon this bill is not to be resembled to the proceeding in Westminster-hall; and this is sufficient in a bill, though in an Indictment it would not, without alledging that sir J. F.-is guilty. But one would think, that if sir J. F. is guilty, every allegation in the bill, that is, the inducement to the bill, which is for attainting him, should be a good and just ground for the attainder; and then, this gentleman, that hath had a copy of the bill to prepare for his defence, and shew' you reasons why the bill should not pass, though our proceedings are not to be resembled to ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- port a crime, for any man to use little insinuations to put off his trial. But, suppose it was unlawful, or that which they call prevaricating s I hope it is far from making him guilty of high-treason, which is the greatest crime this bill designs to pass sentence for; and, I .hope, you will consider, if it be an offence, it is so at common taw; and the same evidence will prevail to bring sir J. F. to condign punishment by the common methods. And if it be no offence, 1 hope you will not by law make it an offence, •o as to inflict the greatest punishment for this artifice. Mr. Speaker. Mr. Serjeant Gould, have you any thing to say > Mr. Seij. Gould. No, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker. Then withdraw. — And being, withdrawn, Mr. Sloane. I propose it to you, Whether, if the paper be Evidence, it should not(be read in the presence of the prisoner ? Members. No, no. Then the question was put for Candles; which passed in the affirmative, and they were brought in. — Ordered, That the counsel be discharged any further attendance at this time. Mr. Melhicen. There can be no debate previous to the reading of your bill. I desire the order of the day may be read. Accordingly the Order of the day for rending of the Bill a second time, was read by the clerk. Then the Bill was read a second'time by the clerk. Debate on eomnritting the Bill.] And being afterwards opened by Mr. Speaker, and he having expected for some time, and no member rising up to speak: Mr. Speaker. Shall I put you the question of commitment ? Sir 'Dm. Dyke. Sir, I hope you will not put the question of commitment until some exception is made to the bill; I am sure it is as liable to exceptions as any bill that hath been brought in a great while:it is a tender subject to speak of, the pretence of the bill being for, the preservation of the king and government: and if I thought it was really so, I should be heartily for it; for I think there is no comparison between the value of the king’s life, and that of private persons:but that hath been often said, but not proved; therefore, I think, I may tell you my reasons why I am against the bill. 1'hat the parliament hath a power to make such a law, is agreed; but I think it ought ndt to be used but upon extraordinary occasions, when great persons are concerned, that cannot be otherwise brought to justice, and when crimes do not fall under the denomination of the law, which is not the present case. This case is, that a gentleman is charged with treason; and it is proved but by one witness; though the counsel did say, that a consult to levy war was not treason. Now either it will not be the crime that is alledged, or it is not proved. Here you are judges, prosecutors, witnesses and jury: I would know in what country it is so? Besides, the witnesses are produced here, and not sworn; and upon the whole, there is but one witness. Sir, I am against the bill, and against it, as being of dangerous consequence. Mr. Pultney. This matter before you is of such a nature, that as a debate is rising upon it, I hope all gentlemen will hear one another with the greatest attention that may be. The worthy member admits you have a power'to pass the bill, and I do not find that contested by any body; though (with submission) the latter part of what he said, contradicted what he admitted at first; but since that is so much agreed, I shall say but little to it, and that is this:that without such a power as this, any government would be imperfect, and would want a sufficient power for its own preservation, upon extraordinary occasions. You have been told, this hath been an untrodden path; but, I believe, gentlemen are pretty well satisfied it hath not been so untrodden, and many precedents of that kind have been quoted; and the counsel against the bill have admitted, that there have been frequent precedents. An objection bath been made to some of them, that they were made in ill reigns; but I take it to be no objection, that the precedent was made at one tim ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- it, I shall humbly submit. 1 do think, sir, the matter before you is of the highest importance; and I must confess, it is with a great deal of satisfaction to myself, that I do see gentlemen seem to apply themselves with a great deal of seriousness to this debate. Sir, I shall not pretend to make a particular answer to what the counsel for the prisoner did say; as to the precedents of acts of parliament, I think this answer is sufficient at present for that, that if we have no precedent, we are under a necessity of making one. It is told us, that of all the precedents none will justify us in this proceeding; but at the same .time it must be considered, that we are in a case, the like to which never yet happened in England. — The first thing I shall apply myself to, is the jurisdiction of parliaments; and truly, I think, it will be very necessary to say a little upon that. I have heard none call this power in question, the thing speaks itself; it is the legislative power, and the etymology of the word tells you what it is: It is a power that can make laws, and abolish them; a power thrft is superiour to all other powers whatsoever, and we are part of that legislative power; and therefore I shall say no more to that, it being a matter agreed, that we have a power to proceed in this matter. Now I will take leave to observe something as to the particular case before you. — Though a gentleman that spoke some time since, did speak to you of the nature of the crime; yet, with submission, I think there remains something to be added to what he said. The conspiracy of which sir John Fenwick to me appears guilty, is not only against the life of the king, not only to depose the king, not only a conspiracy to raise a rebellion, but at the same time to contrive an invasion from France, and bring in a foreign power. I know not what better expression to tell my thoughts in, than by using a term which physicians use in some desperate cases; they tell you, there is a complication of distempers; and I think this is a complication of treasons: this is the highest crime, and it is attended with all the aggravating circumstances this crime can admit of. Now, in giving our opinion, and passing oor judgment upon this matter, I think there are 10/1] PARL. HIST. 8 William III. \(SQ6. — Proceedings against Sir J. Fenwick, [1072 two considerations ought to guide us: There is m consideration we owe to the prisoner that is brought before us; and another.consideration which we owe to the common security. As to the first of these, it being a matter of blood, wherein the life of an Englishman, the life of a man of his quality and figure, is at stake, we ought to proceed with all the calmness that i9 possible; and 1 do agree, if there was nothing but presumption, that ought to be in favour of life. But pray let us consider how this matter stands: let me desire those gentlemen that are of opinion we ouglrt to have so much tenderness for the prisoner, to lav before them another scene, and sort of consideration, -.at the same time. I do consider the hardship (if 1 may use that expression) of passing this sentence; I.do .consider what a condition we had beeu in, if the contrivance that was laid had taken effect; that is the weightiest part of the matter before you:and though it was disappointed then, I know not how far off it is at present; this ought really to weigh with you. And I hope I may take leave, upon this occasion, to observe to you, what one of the wisest and best of the Romans said upon an occasion of this nature: he tells you. That a man that would consider his duty aright, must consider the matter in all its parts and circumstances; and when that is done, must act adequate, as well to the community, as to himself and his neighbour. I would apply that to the present case; and would desire those gentlemen that express so much tenderness in this case, to have some for the government, and themselves. It was told you. That the prisoner before you does net stand c ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- plain and clear before you, that when all the other parts of the aestion are passed over, I should think it a re-ection upon the house, to enter upon a particular answer to it. I had not said what I have said, that I think any part decisive, but to clear myself to the world for the opinion I am going to give; and perhaps «vhat I have said, may give occasion to some others to say something that may be much more to the purpose; but for the reasons I have given, I am for the bill. Mr. Sloane. Sir, I as little care for med- dling in matters of blood, as any man, and should be glad to avoid giving my opinion in this case; but I think it is incumbent upon every gentleman that hath the honour to sit here, iu point of trust; I think it his duty to them whom he represents, to the king and kingdom in general, to give his opinion when he is clear and satisfied in it; and if I was in the least dis-satisfied, I should venture the displeasure of the house to absent; but upon the whole ense, and the proof that hath been given, I am very clear that sir John Fenwick is guilty of this (reason that he is accused of; and that it is treason without any strain, and well, warranted by precedents. — 1 would first take notice of what is said to your jurisdiction in general; I remember it was said this was an incroachment upon Magna Charta; for by that, no person is to be tried for his life, but by thejudgmentof his peers. Those gentlemen that have made that objection, have intirely forgot the other part, which is the next sentence; ‘ Nec super ibimus, * nec super eum mittimus, nisi per regulare ju- * dicium parium suorum vel per legem What do they make that to be? It is true, in the ordinary course of justice} persons must be tried, a commoner by a commoner, and a peer by a peer; but there are several sort* of trials and laws in the land:And when you come to consider what is meant by per legem terr, ’ you have the commons lex terra; you have the statute law, and lex locit the laws of particular manors; And there are several sorts of trials besides that by jury; there are trials by battle:The defendant in case of appeal may try it by battle, and he that is killed loses the cause. Then there is a law above nil these laws, and that is the law of parliament, which my lord Coke calls lex and - liatnenlaria in another place, which lie says is, * ab omnibus inquirenda, ’ but a paucis nota; ’ and it is not fit it should be known how far the y oun go (and so it is in chancery ), and that is a Vol. V. law that is unlimited, and that is one of the laws saved by Magna Charta. I say, therefore, that without any incroachment upon Magna Charta, or any law whatsoever, you enter regularly udou his trial. — I would answer another thing that was said against a trial in parliament; and I must confess, I did wonder to hear it from that honourable ancieut mem* ber, That if he was to he tried, he should rather chuse to he tried in Westminster-hall. Why, sir, before I should have given so sudden a judgment as that, I would have considered what my case was:If I had had such a case as count Coningsmark, a bad cause and a great deal of money, I would rather he tried there $ or if I could be tried as sir George Wakeman was; but if I had a good cause, and would use no corruption, instead of twelve men that might be corrupted, I had rather be tried by or 500 gentlemen that are beyond it. You see how trials went below, the trial of my lady Lisle, that could neither see nor hear; and there came a person to her house that was proved to be in Monmouth’s rebellion, and she was burned for r it. — Then as to the case before you, 1 would offer my reasons why I believe this gentleman to he guilty; here is capt. Porter, he hath positively sworn, that he had another meeting at Mrs. Mountjoy’s, and there they did consult, and agree to send Chnrnock over to France; and Chnrnock was directed to go with a message to invite a foreign power over here. Now the question is, Whether he is to be believed ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- y go upon the same reason, that they were not heard, though they were in custody. Col. Wharton. A gentleman lately told you, We had lately passed au act for trials in cases of treason, and now we are in this proceeding, about doing something that is contrary to it: That is a tiling that would stick with me, if I could not answer it; but I appeal to every gentleman in this house, whether that act hath any sort of relation to trials in parliament; for that is only to direct the courts in Westminster-Hall. I have only this to say; I think the evidence very full before you. I think you have had one very good witness, and the counsel for the prisoner had liberty to confront him:If he had not been guilty, the prisoner at the bar would have denied it: I am convinced of the truth of it, and my conscience is to make a judgment upon it, and that is all we can go by. , ll tpj PARL. HISTORY, S William HI Mr. Jcft'crys. A worthy gentlemtm of the Jong robe hath taken pains to find out precedents to justify our proceedings; and another says, theie is no act to circumscribe our proceedings. But since gentlemen ditfer so much, it gives me a great deal of caution. This 1 know, there is a law of* the land, by which persons ought to be governed: I take this to be an extraordinary method of proceeding, and 1 hope the lords will take more care of the matter than the commons. Mr. Ed. Harley. Sir, I can’t srtisfyinyself to he for this bili; and in a few words, I shall give my reason for it. It hath been said, That the parliament is unlimited. I do agree, that we are not tied to the rules of Westminster-Hall. I shall only mention the reason why two witnesses are required in cases of high-treason. If any will look into the history of Englnud, tl.cy will find it hath been often the design of the crown to trump up plots upon the subject; and therefore these acts took particular care there should he two witnesses to prove the fact: This is the reason of the law, and, I think, upon it the liberty of the subject is founded; and therefore I ain't be for this bill. Then the question for passing this Bill was put, and the house divided. Ayes, 189; Noes, lo(>. The Bill sent up to the Zorefe.] Being thus carried in the atlirmative, the Bili was sent up to the lords for their concurrence. The lords took a very extraordinary method to force their absent members to come to town. They sent messengers for them, to bring them up; which seemed to be a great breach on their dignity; for the privilege of ranking a proxy was an undoubted right belonging to that peerage; but those, who intended to throw out the Bill, resolved to have a full house. The Bill met with great opposition; and the debates were the warmest, and lasted the longest, of any that, had ever been. The substance of the arguments in the house of lords, brought against this way of proceeding by Bill of Attainder, was, That the law was all men’s security, as well as it ought to be their rule: If this was once broke through, no man was safe: Men would be presumed guilty, without legal proofs, and be run down, and destroyed by a torrent: Two witnesses seemed necessary, by an indisputable law of justice, to prove a man guilty: The law of God given to Moses, as well as the law of England, made this necessary: And, besides all former ones, the law, lately made for trials in cases of treason, was such a sacred one, that it was to be hoped, that even a parliament would not make a breach upon it. A written deposition was no evidence, because the person accused could not have the benefit of cross-interrogating the witness; by which much false swearing was often detected:Nor could the evidence, given in one trial, be brought against a man, who was not a party in that trial: The evidence, that was offered to grand jury, was to be examined all over [. l60G. — upon a Bill of Attainder. [1159 again, at the trial; till that was done, it was not evidence. It did not appear, that Fenwick himself was concerned in the practice upon Por ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Byron, Clifford, Granville, Arundel, Dartmouth, Guildford, Godolphin, Jelfcries, Lcnster, Pawlet. In all (30. Proltst thereon.] The lords who were for the Negative entered the following Protest: Because Bills of Attainder against persons in prison, and who are therefore liable to be tried by law, are of dangerous consequence to the lives of the subject, and, as we conceive, may tend to the subversion of (he laws of this kingdom. — Because the Evidence of grand jurymen, of what was sworn before them against sir J. F., us also the evidence of the petty jury-ilien, of what was sworn at the trial of other men, were admitted here; both which are against the rules of law; besides that they disagreed in their testimony. — Because the information of Goodman in writing was received, which is not by law to be admitted; and the prisoner for want of his appearing face to face, ns is required by law, could not have the advantage of cross-examining him. — And it did not appear by any evidence, that sir J. F., or any other perym employed hv him, had any way perswaded Goodman to withdraw himst It; and it would be of very dangerous consequence, that any person so accused should lie condemned; for by this means a witness, who shad be found insufficient to convict a man, shall have more power to hurt him by his absence, than he could have if he were produced rers, Granville, Fitzwalter, Ilallitax, Lind-ey, P. Winton’, Arunddl, Lempster, Hereford, Carnarvon, Jouat, Exon’, Jeffreys, Northumberland, Abington, Hunsdon, Chandos, bcars-dale, Norman by, Weymouth, Tho. Menev\ Dartmouth, Sussex, Northampton, Bath, Tho. Rotlen\ Bristol, Leeds, Rochester, Leigh, Wtfr by de Broke." The king gave the royal assent to this Bill Jan. the liili, 1696-7, andon tne28th sir John was beheaded on Tower-Hid * Preceding! for the purpose of retrieving the Embarrassments of the. Revenue.] Nov. 27. A met ion heing made in the Commons for a time, when the house should resolve itself into a Committee on the Grievances of the Kingdom, an amendment was offered to it, by inserting the words State of the Nation, instead of Grievances, and carried in the affirmative, Yeas 137* Noes 113. The same day, the house being principally occupied with enquiring into the State of the Revenue, and the means of raising a further Supply, we shall here insert an Abstract of the principal Proceedings on that head during this Session.'f " The ways and means of raising this Supply were, 1. A general Capitation or Poll-Tax: 2. A l ax of 3$. in the pound upon Land:and 3. A Duty upon all Paper, Paste-board, Vellum and Parchment, imported or made in this kingdom. But still the greatest difficulty of aU, was the loss of Public Credit: for the tallies struck, or funds settled by parliament, especially such as were remote, were exchanged for ready money, at a mighty loss: and the government was obliged to make excessive discounts and allowances to bring treasure into the exchequer. This great loss of credit, which was like to prove fatal to our affairs abroad the last summer, arose chieffy from two tilings, 1. The de-liciences of parliamentary funds, particularly the unhappy Project of the Land-Bank, which proved wholly abortive, and did not produce one penny of above 2j millions with which it was charged:2. The Recoining of our Silver. The first created trust, and the hitter destroyed it, by making money to be very scarce. It is easy to imagine what perishing circumstances the nation was in, when the Notes of the Bank of England, which had been a mighty help to voce, against him. — And if Goodman had up-; the public, were discounted at 20, and Tallies peared against him, yet he was so infamous in the whole course of his life, and particularly for the most horrid blasphemy which was proved against him, that no evidence for him could or ought to have any credit, especially in the case of flood, bo tint in this case, there was but one witness, viz. Porter; and he, as uc conceive, a very doubtful one. — Lastly, Because sir J. F. is so mconsiderabie a mail, as to the at -10, 60, or 60 per cent. The government had cont ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ere only for five or 10 pounds, which answered the necessity of commerce among the meaner people, for the common coiivenicncies of life. And that those who had advanced money on loans on any part of the king's revenues, might not be obliged to receive it back in Notes that were under the value of money, to strengthen the reputation of these bills, the parliament authorised the lords of the treasury, to contract with any corporation, or numbers of private men, and to allow them a competent pramium, provided they obliged themselves to exchange those Notes for ready money, when tendered to them for that purpose; which the lords of the treasury did accordingly. The credit of the Exchequer Notes being thus secured, they daily rose nearer to par, till at last they exceeded the value of money:and whereas the trustees, with whom the government had contracted to exchange them, were at first allowed 10 per cent, as a pramium, they were since contented 1161] PARE. HIST. 8 William III. l6'< to do it for four. These Bills passed as so many counters, which the people were satisfied to receive, because they kuew the Exchequer would receive them again as so much ready money:and these state-counters so well supplied the want of money, till new com was issued from the mint, that Trade and Commerce were maintained, and mutual payments well enough made, to answer the necessities of the government and the people. This project (which proved an effectual, though a paper-prop to support the state, when its silver pillars, if 1 may so speak, were for a time removed) was likewise owing to the prudence and industry of Mr. Charles Montague, as well as that of re-coining the Money; which those very men w ho envied most his success in the house of commons, and growing power at court, were afterwards contented to call a fortunate temerity." Privileged Places disfra.] After sir J. Fenwick’s business was over, the parliament, to the great satisfaction of the people, took care to remedy a Public Grievance of long standing. Several places in and about the city of London, which, in the times of the Romish superstition, were allowed as sanctuaries to criminals and debtors, had, ever since the Reformation, pretended a privilege to protect the latter; and one of these, called White Fryers, was become a notorious receptacle of broken and desperate men, in the very heart of the metropolis, whither they resorted in great numbers, and, to the dishonour of the government, and great prejudice of the people, defended themselves with force and violence against the law and public authority. This intolerable mischief the parliament redressed by an Act * for the more effectual relief of creditors in cuses of escapes, and for preventing abuses in * prisons and pretended privileged places; ’ wherein such effectual provision was made to reduce those outlaws, that, immediately after the act was published, they abandoned their posts to better inhabitants. Case oj ConrudeGreibe.] Dec. 8. The Com- mittee appointed to examine the Petition of one Mary Greibe, made their Report; by which it appeared, That Conrade Griebe, husband of the said Mary, having undertaken to deliver two Petitions in behalf of certain Officers and Soldiers turned out of count Stanbock's regiment, to the king and parliament, was the day before seized by one kitson, a messenger, by warrant from Mr. Secretary Trumball, charging him with treasonable practices: that he was kept in the said messenger’s hands ten days; during which time, he had been oftentimes refused an examination:and that at last about two dr three o’clock in the morning he was token out of the custody of the said messenger by a party of the Dutch guards, who earned him on board a Dutch vessel, from whence be was conveyed to Brussels, where he was thrown imo a .dungeon, and is subsisted on bread and water only. Addrtu therms md KinfsAnmer. £>. — Privileged Places disfranchised, [1162 Resolved, " That aa humble Address be presented to his majesty, that he will be pleased to cause the Iulbrmations in relation to Con-rnde Greibe, to be laid before the house to which his majesty by message, the 23rd, returned the following Answer: " VV. R. llis majesty having received an Address from the house, whereby it was desired that be would please to cause the Informations, in relation to Conrade Greibe, to be laid before the house, is pleased to acquaint them, that upon the discovery of the late conspiracy against his person ana government, the said Greibe was taken into custody among other suspected persons, as concerned in that Plot; and about the same time, several Information ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s’ Address to put the Laws in force against Prof oneness and Immorality.] Feb. ft. A Committee, of the commons was appointed to draw up an humble Address to his majesty, upon the debate of the house, to suppress Profaneness and Immorality, and ail Books which endeavour to undermine the Fundamentals of the Christian religion, and to punish the authors. So that on the t?th, (his Address was presented to the king by the whole house: " May it please your majesty, We your majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Commons in parliament assembled, do with great joy and comfort remember the many testimonies which your majesty has given us of your sincerity and real for the true Reformed Religion, as established in this kingdom: And iu particular, we beg. leave to present to your majesty our most humble and thankful acknowledgments, for the late gracious Declaration your majesty has made to us from the throne, that you would effectually discourage Profaneness and Immorality, which, chiefly by the neglect and ill example of too many magistrates, are, like a general contagion, diffused and spread throughout the kingdom to (be great scandal and reproach of our Religion, and to the dishonour and prejudice of your majesty’s government. — Therefore in concurrence with vour majesty’s pious intentions, we do most humbly desire, that your majesty would issue out your royal Proclamation, commanding all your majesty’s Judges, Justices of the peace, and other Magistrates, to put in speedy execution those good laws that are now in force against Profaneness and Immorality, giving due encouragement to all such as do their duty therein: And that your majesty would be pleased to require from your Judges and Justices of Assize, from time to time, an account of such their proceedings. — And siuce the examples of men in high and public stations have a powerful influence upon the lives of others, we do most humbly beseech your majesty, that all Vice, Profaneness and irreligion, may in a particular manner be discouraged, in those who have the honour to be employed near your royal person; and in all others who are in your majesty’s service, by sea and land; appointing strict orders to be given to all your Commanders that they do not only shew a good example themselves, but also inspect the manners of iho»e under them; and that your majesty would upon all occasions distinguish men of piety and virtue, by marks of your royal favour. — We do further in all humility beseech your majesty that your majesty would give such effectual orders, as to your roynl wisdom shall seem fit, for the suppressing all perniciota 1173] PARL. HIST. 9 William III. U>97~*-~ Earl of Cau. [1174 Rooks and Pamphlets, which contain in them impious doctrines against the lloly Trinity, and other fundamental Articles of our Faith, tending to the subversion of the Christian Religion, and that the Authors and Publishers thereof may be discountenanced and punished. — And we do nlso most humbly beseech your majesty; that your said proclamation may be ordered to be read at least four times in the year, in all Churches and Chapels, immediately after divine service: and at the Assizes and Quarter-Sessions of the Peace, just before the Charge is given. — We present to your majesty this our most humble Address, proceeding from our duty and zeal for the glory of God, and to the end that all our councils may be. blessed by his divine assistance, and may produce honour, safety and happiness, with all the blessings of a lasting peace to ybur majesty and yonr people." The King's Answer.] his majesty received this Address with satisfaction, and gave tltis Answer: " Gentlemen, I cannot but be very well pleased with an Address of this nature; and 1 will give immediate directions in the several particulars you desire: Bui I could wish some more effectual provision were made, for the sup- pressing those pernicious Books and Pamphlets which your Address takes notice of." An Act for suppressing Atheism, 4*c.] Feb ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- commons in Ireland, in their late sessions; and by a Bill •ent hither, under the great seal of Ireland, intituled, An Act for the better Security of his Majesty’s royal- person and government/ whereby they would have an Act passed in the parliament of England, expressly binding Ireland, to be re-enacted there; and alterations therein made; some of which amount to a repeal of what is required by the said act, made in England; and, in other of the said alterations, pretending to give authority to, and oblige, the courts of justice, and great seal, here in EnglandThis we cannot but look III. 1698. — The King's Speech. [1182 on, as an occasion and encouragement to the forming, and publishing, the dangerous positions contained in the said Book. The consequences of such positions and proceedings will be so fatal to this kingdom, and even Ireland itself, that they need not be enlarged on, or aggravated. Therefore, we, your dutiful subjects, rest satisfied, that your majesty, by your royal prudence, will prevent their being drawn into example. And we, with all duty and humility, assure your majesty of our ready concurrence and assistance, in a parliamentary way, to preserve and maintain the dependence and subordination of Ireland to the imperial crown of this realm. And we humbly beseech your majesty, That you would be graciously pleased to give effectual orders, to preveut any thing of the like nature for the future, and the pernicious consequences of what is past, by itnishing and discountenancing those that have ecu guilry thereof. And we beseech your majesty to take all necessary care, that the laws which direct and restrain the parliament of Ireland in their actings, be not evaded, but strictly observed:— And that vour majesty would he pleased to discourage all things, which may, in any degree, tend to lessen the dependence of Ireland upon England." To this Address his majesty’s answer was, That be would take care that what was complained of, might he prevented and redressed us the Commons desired." June 23. An Address was read and agreed to, recomincnding the services and sufferings of the city of London-Dcrry to his majesty’s consideration, for relief in the kingdom of Ireland; that they might no longer remain a ruinous spectacle to all, a scorn to their enemies, and a discouragement to his majesty’s well-affected subjects. — As likewise the Governor and Garrison of the said City, as those who through the utmost sufferings and extremities have defended the same; and for so signal service, did deserve to have some special marks of his majesty’s favour for a lasting monument to posterity. — In Answer to which, his majesty was pleased to promise to take them into consideration. The King's Speech at the the .Session.] July 5. The king came to the house of peers, and, having given the royal assent to several Bills, closed the session with the following Speech: " j\ly lords and gentlemen; I cannot take leave of so good a parliament, without publicly acknowledging the sense I liave of the great things you have done for my safety and honour, mid for the support and welfare ot iny people. Every one of your sessions hath made good this character. The happy uniting of us in an association tor our mutual defence; the remedying the corruption of the coin^ which lnd I cvn so lonu growing upon the nation; the restoring of credit; the giving of supplies in such a manner for carrying on the 1 war, os did by God’s blessing produce an honourable peace; and after that, the making 1183] PARL. HISTORY, 10 William III •uch provisions for our common security, and towards satisfying the debts contracted in so long a war, witii as little burden to the kingdom, as is possible, arc Pin h thing-, as will give a lus.ing reputation to til’s parliament, and will be a subject of emulation to those, who shall come after. Besides all this, I think myself personally obliged to return mv thanks to you, gentlemen of the house of commons, for the regard you have ha ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- n; There is nothing I value so much, as the esteem and love of niy people; and, as for their sakes I avoided no hazards, during the war, so iny who'e study and care shall be to improve and continue to them the advantage s and blessings of peace. Ami [earnestly d. sire of you all, in your several station, to be vigilant in preserving peace and good order, ami in a due and regular execution of the laws, especially those against profaneness and irre- ligion." The Parliament prorogued and dissolved.] Then the parliament was prorogued, and two days after dissolved, having now sat its period of three years, in which, as the king said in his speech, great things had been done; the whole money of England was recoined; the king secured in his government:an honourable peace was made; public credit was restored; and the payment of Public Debts was put on sure fuuds *. • " The chief conduct of affairs lay now in a few' hands. Among these the lord Sommers was most eminent in the house of lords; l-r, as he was one of the ablest and most incorrupt judges, that ever presided in Chancery, so his great capacity for all atfnirs made the king consider him beyond all Ids ministers; and he well deserved the confidence that the king expressed for him on all occasions. In the home of common, Mr. Mountngue, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, had gamed such a visible ns-ccnJcnt over all, who were zealous for the king’s service, that he gave the law to the rest, winch lie did always with great spirit, hut sometimes with too assumin'! an air. The Elect was in fie earl of Oi ford’s management, who was both Treasurer of the Navy, and at the head of the Admiralty. He had brought in many into the service, who were very zealous for the government; hut a spirit of impiety and dissoluteness ran through too many of them, so tlmt those, who intended to cast a load upon the government, had too treat advantages given by some of those. The administration ot home was, otherwise, without exception, and no grievances were complained of. Sir William Trntnhall had been removed, on the 5th of Dec. 1007, from the po-t of Secretary of State, which was conferred on Mr. J.unes Vet non, w ho hud forme; ly been Secretary to the Duke of Monmouth, and since the Revolution, chief clerk to the duke of Shrewsbury, under whom he had for several years managed ull the affairs of the duke’s odice, 1 (>9S. — Lift of the House of Commons. [11 S4i On the tJOth of July, the king embarked for Holland, and concluded the Treaty of Partition. On the 3d of December, his majesty landed at Margate. First Session of the Fourth Parliament of King William III. List of the House of Commons.]December 6, 1698. Ehis day the New Parliament* met at Westminster. The following is a List of tli* Members of the House of Commons: Ab'ngton, S «non Harcourt. St. Albans, Sir John Garrard, Lord Clirync. Agmondcshum, Sir Samuel Grim-ton, Gtorgc Churchill. Ahihi.ru gh, (Suffolk) Sir Henry Johns n, William Johnson. Aldbonmgh, (Yorkshire) .Sir George Cook, Sir Alistru. Dauby. A Her I on, A Sir William Holster, Ralph .Miibank. Andv\er, John Smith, Anthony Henley. Angle sc a, Richard vise. Bulkier. Appleby, Jervis Pierrepoint, Sir John Walter. Arundel, Ji lin Civ.k, Christopher Knight. Add, nt fen, William Stawell, Richard Duke. Aylesbury, James Herbert, Robert Dormer. Hand) ary. Sir John Cope. Jtnr tuple, Nicholas Hooper, Arthur Chatnpncys. Path, Alexander Popham. William Blaiihwavt. Beau marls, Owen Hnehe«. Bedfordshire, Lord Russel. Sir William Gotw»ck. BtdfonlTuzcn, .Sir Thomas Alston, William Spencer. Bedicin, Francis Stonehouse. Charles Decant. Berkshire, Sir Humphrey Forster, Richard Nevil. Pena k, Sir Francis Blake, Samuel Ogle. Beverly, Ralph Wharton, Sir .Michael Wharton. Bend ley, Sal way Winnington. Hir hops Castle, Sir William Browulow, Charles Mason. I h tt l.ingly, llujth Hare, Sir Robert Clayton. Bodmin, Russel Roberts, Juhn Hoblvn. Buralstun, Jame ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ajesty, That the Streights Squadron not sailing tdl September last, waa prejudicial to England, and a great mismanagement. — That the Order made by the Commissioners of the Admiralty, Sept. 12, 1695, giving Henry Priestman, esq. an allowance of 10s. per diem, from the date of his Commission, as Commander in Chief before Sallee in 1684, till the ship Bonadventure was paid off, over and above ins pay as captain of the said ship, was very unreasonable, and a misapplication of the public money. — That the Victualling any of his majesty’s ships by others than by the Victuallers appointed for that service, or their agents, is contrary to the course of the Navy, and may be of ill consequence. — That many new and unnecessary Charges have, in an extraordinary manner, been introduced into the Navy, contrary to the rules of the Navy, which is a great mismanagement. — That the deductions of Poundage taken by the Pay-Masters of the Navy, for Slop-Clothes, Dead Men’s Clothes, Tobacco, Chest at Chatham, Chaplain and Surgeon, is without Warrant, and ought to be accounted for. — That it is inconsistent with the Service of the Navy for the same person to be one of the Commissioners for executing the Office of Lord High-Admiral and Treasurer of the Navy at the same time. — And that the passing any Account of Monies impressed for the contingent use of the Navy, without regulat vouchers, or such other proof, as the nature of the service will admit, either with or without a sign manual, is contrary to the rules and methods of the Navy, and of dangerous consequence. — AU which we beg leave to lay before 1197] PARL. HISTORY, 10 William III. your majesty, desiring that you will be graciously pleased to take effectual care that the Mismanagements herein complained of may be prevented for the future/’ * The King's Answer.] His majesty’s Answer was as follows:" Gentlemen, I will consider your Address:it is my desire that all sorts of Mismanagements and Irregularities should be prevented or redressed; you may be assured I will take the best care I can, in relation to the Navy; the right management whereof is of so great concern to the kingdom." March 30. The Accounts relating to the Transports were laid before the house; whereby it appeared, that there bad been paid on that Service 100, 107/. 8j. 5 That there was atilldue 441, 637/. 9s. 5d.%And that the Cash in the Office amounted to 9, 030/. 16s. Id. The Earl of Warwick and Lord triedffor a Murder; and acquitted.] March 28. Edward earl of Warwick, and Charles lord Mohun, being severally indicted for the Mur-derf of Richard Coote, esq. were tried by the house of peers, m a court prepared for that purpose in Westminster-Hall, the lord chancellor of England being constituted lord high Steward upon this occasion. The court being opened, with the usual ceremonies, the Trial of the earl of Warwick came on first, and lasted till late in the evening, when the peers adjourned to their own house, and after some debate, the lords temporal only returned to the eourt in Westminster-Hall, where they delivered their Judgments seriatim upon their honours, and unanimously acquitted the earl of Warwick of the murder, bur found him guilty of manslaughter; who craving the benefit of " It was evident, that this Address was chiefly levelled against the earl of Orford, who was both Treasurer of the Navy, and one of the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, and who had got too much by his late expedition m the Mediterranean, and done the government too signal serv ices, not to lie open to the inquiry of some well-meaning, and to the envy of many disaffected persons. The earl therefore, foreseeing the storm gathering against him, thought it prudence to resign all his places and retire. However it ought to be remembered injustice to him, that what he got in the Streights, was only by the presents he received from the States, whom he protected; for it was confessed by his very enemies, that a fleet was never better taken care of, no ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- commons against their lordships Amendments do no way relate to the matter contained in the said Amendments. Because though there be nothing in the said Amendments relating to Aids and Supplies granted to his majesty in parliament, yet the commons have thought fit to take occasion thereupon to assert a claim to their sole and entire right, not only the granting all Aids in parliament, but that such aids are to be raised by such methods, ami with such provisions as the commons only think proper:If the said assertions were exactly true (which their lordships cannot allow) yet it could not, with good reason, follow from thence, that the lords may not alter, or leave out, according to their Amendments, when the saving the estates of innocent persons, and of such as have been outlawed after their death, makes such Amendments necessary. 3. And the lords think it unreasonable and unjust to vest in the trustees any greater, or other estate, than was in the forfeiting person, or than the king may legally have; since thereby not only many innocent persons, who come in by descent or purchase, or other valuable considerations, might sutler equally as criminals, but it is possible, that men, who, with the utmost hazard of their lives have been defending the government, may forfeit as traitors:And they cannot apprehend, that by any law of this land, or by any rule of reason or justice, any person ought to be outlawed after death, since it is condemning a man unheard, allow ing him no opportunity of making his innocence appear. 4. The lords admit the resumption of the forfeited estates in Ireland to be a tiling necessary, by reason of the great debt due to the army and others, which they earnestly desire to see discharged, and are therefore very willing and desirous to give their consents to any reasonable bill the commons shall send them up to that purpose:But the lords can by no means consent, that the commons shall take upon them to dispose of any of the said forfeitures to any private persons, it being the sole and undoubted right of the crown to be the distributer of all bounties, and being contrary to all the laws and course of parliaments, to give aids, supplies, or grants, to any but the king only; and as the contrary practice is totally new and unprecedented, so. in process of time, it may become of the last ill consequence to the public. 5. The lords cannot agree to the clauses that create an incapacity in the commissioners or managers of the excise for sitting in this parliament, because the qualifications of members to serve in parliament is a thing (if proper to he meddled with at all) that hath been thought fit by the commons to he in a bill by itself; and the joining together, in a money-bill, things so totally foreign to the methods of raising money, and to the quantity or qualification of the sums to be raised, is wholly destructive of the freedom of debates, dangerous to the privileges of the lords, and to tiic prerogative of the crown:For by this means things of the last ill consequence to the nation may be brought into money-bills, and yet neither the lords, nor the crown, be able to give their negative to them, without hazarding the public peace and security:And it seems a great hardship to the counties and places, who chusc such members, to deprive them of their services, since they knew them to be commissioners of excise at the time they chose them; and since the commons admit them to be proper persons to serve either in excise or parliament, though not at the same time; so that there seems to be no other reason of distinguishing these commissioners, hut what is common to all other othcers of the crown; and the question, whether such an alteration tnay be convenient, must needs be a doubt with the lurds, since the commons have not been able this very session to satisfy themselves with the bill, and the considerations they have entertained upon that subject: The lords do seriously consider the dangers and inconveniences that are likel ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ommons, w ho, put suing their resentment against the present ministry, put the <|uestion, " That nu Address be made to Ids in.tjesty, to remove John lord Sommers, lord chancellor of England, from his presence and councils for ever; " w hioh though it was carried in the negative, by reason of the acknowledged merit and great services of that peer, yet it wots Uesolved, " That an Address be m ide to hi* majesty, that no person who was * " The lord Sommers, during thrse debates, was ill; and the woist construction possible was put upon that; for it was said, that lie advised all the opposition, winch was made to the Bill, in the house of lords, but (hat, to keep himself out of it, he feigned that he was ill; though his great attendance, in the court of Chancery, the house of lords, and at the council-table, had so impaired his health, that every year, about that time, he used to be brought very low, and disabled fioin business. The king seemed resolved to venture on all the ill consequences, that might follow the losing this Bill, though they would probably have been very fatal. As far as could be judged, either another session of that parliament, or a new one, would have banished the Favourites, and begun the Bill anew, with the addition of obliging the Grantees to refund all the mean profits. Many in the house of lords, w ho in all 01 her tilings were very firm to the king, were for passing this Bill, notwithstanding his earnestness against it, since they apprehended the ill consequences, that were like to follow, if it were lost. Bishop Burnet wus one of these, and the king was much displeased with him for it. The bishop said, That he would venture his majesty’s displeasure, rather than please him in that, which he feared would be the ruin of his government; not apprehending at that time, what injustice lay under many of the clauses in the Bill, which appeared afterwards * 0 evidently, that the very same persons, who drove on the bill, were conviuced of them, and redressed some of them in acts, that passed in subsequent sessions. — The king became sullen upon all this, and upon the many incidents, that are apt to Tail in upon debates of this nature. lie either did not apprehend iu what such things might end, or he was not much concerned at it. His resentment, which was much provoked, broke out into some instances, which gave such handles to his enemies, as they wished for; and they improved those advantages, which his ill conduct gave them, with much spite and industry, so as to alienate the nation from him. It was once in agitation among the party, to make an Address to him against going beyond sea; but even that was diverted with a malicious design. Hitherto the body of the nation retained a great measure of aiFection to him. This was beginning to diminish by his going so constantly beyond sea. not a native of his dominions, except his royal highness prince George of Denmark, be admitted to his majesty's councils in England or Ireland V ’ The Parliament prorogued and ] April 11. The king did not think it proper to receive any such Address, and therefore 10 prevent the otfer of it, his majesty came this day to the house of peers, and after passing a number of bills, commanded the earl of Bridgewater to prorogue the parliament to the ‘J3d of May f. It wus afterwards dissolved on the J 9th of December; and a New Par, lament as soon as the session of parliament w’as ended, though the war was now over. Upon this it grew to he publicly said, that he loved no Englishman's face nor his company. His enemies therefore reckoned it was fit for their euds to let that prejudice increase in the minds of the people, till they might find a proper occasion to ingraft some bad designs upon it." Tindnl. 44 The Bishop says, if lie bad rightly understood that matter in time, he would never have given Ins vote for so unju-t a bill. He only considered it as an hardship put on the king, many of his grants being thus made void, some of which had not b ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Liberty of the Subject ['Liberty of the Subject'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mper, and possessed of so much, * The Kentish gentlemen were ably vindicated in a piece, printed in 1701, and reprinted in the third volume of the State Tracts during the reign of king William, and intitled, ‘ Jura Populi Anglicani: Or, the Subjects Right ‘ of Petitioning set forth; occasioned by the ‘ Case of the Kentish Petitioners. With some ‘ thoughts on the Reasons, which induced those ‘ gentlemen to petition; and of the Commons ‘ right of imprisoning.* For a copy of this curious Tract, .-ee Appendix No. XVII. 1553] PARL. HISTORY, IS Wi lliam * honour, as to bear with the Truth, though it * be against you; especially from us, who have * so much right to tell it you:but since, even * Petitions to you from your Masters, (tor such 1 are the People who chose you) are so haugli- * tily received, as with the committing ihc Au-.* tnors to illegal custody, you must give us leave, to give you this fair notice of your Alis- * behaviour. 1 4 If you think fit to rectify your errors, you will do well, and possibly may hear no more of us; but if not, assure yourselves, the na- * tion will not long hide their resentments. And 4 though there are no stated proceedings to bring you to your duty, yet the great Law of Reason says, and all nations allow. That whatever power is above law, is burdensome and tyrannical, and may be reduced by ex- * trajudicial methods., You are not above the People's Resentments, they that made yon members, may reduce you to the same rank from whence they chose you; and may give you a taste of their abused kindness, in terms you may not be pleased with. When the People of England, assembled in Convention, ‘.presented the crown to his present majesty, 4 they annexed a Declaration of the Rights of * the People, in which was expressed what was illegal and arbitrary in the former reign, and * what was claimed as of Right to be done by succeeding kings of England. 4 In like manner, here follows, Gentlemen, 4 a short Abridgment of the Nation’s Grievances, and of your illegal and unwarrantable * practices; and a Claim Right, which we make in the name of ourselves, and such of the good People of England, as are justly alarmed at your proceedings. 4 1. To raise Funds for Money, and declare, 4 by borrowing Clauses, that whosoever ad- * vances Money on those Funds, shall be reini- bursed out of the next Aids, if the Funds fall short; and then give subsequent Funds, without transferring the Deficiency of the former, 4 is a horrible Cheat on the subject who lent the Money, a Breach of public faith, and destructive to the honour and credit of Parliaments. 4 3. To imprison men who are not your own members, by no proceeding, but a Vote of your house, and to continue them in custody, 4 sint: die, is illegal, a notorious Breach of the liberty of the People, setting up a dispensing Power in the house of commons, which your fathers never pretended to; bidding defiance to the Habeas Corpus Act, which is the bulwark of Personal Liberty; destructive of the laws, and betraying the trust reposed in you. 4 The king, at the same time, being obliged to ask you leave, to continue in custody the horrid Assassinators of his Person. 4 3. Committing to custody those Gentlemen, 4 who, at the command of the people, (whose servants you are) came in a peaceable way to put you in mind of your duty, is illegal and injurious; destructive of the Subjects liberty of petitioning for Redress of Grievances, which HI. 1701. — T/ie Lfgion Memorial. [1554 ' 4 has, by all parliaments before yon, -been ac- knovvledg-’d to be t*»eir undoubted r’ght. 4 4. Voting a Petition from the Gentlemen of I 4 Kent insolent, is ridiculous, and impertinent; 4 because the Freeholders of England are your superiors; and is a contradiction iu itself, and 4 a contempt of the English Freedom, and contrary to the nature of Parliamentary Power. 4 5. Voting people guilty of JJ.ibery and ill Practices, nod committing them as aforesaid, 4 without bail, and then, upon submission and kneeling to your house, discharging them, after exacting exorbitant Fees by your officers, is illegal, betraying the Justice of the nation, 4 selling the Liberty of the Subject, encourug- ing the Extortion and Villainy of Gaoler* and Officers, and discountenancing the legal Prosecution of Offenders in the ordinary course of law. 4 6. Prosecuting the crime of Bribery in seme, to serve a Party, and then proceeding no further, though Proof lav Ik fore you, is partial, and unjust, and a Scandal upon the honour of Parliaments. 4 7. Voting the Treaty of Partition fatal to Europe, because it gave so much of the Spanish dominions to the French, and notron- ceruing yourselves to prevent their taking possession of it all: deserting the Dutch, 4 when the French are nt their doors, till it be almost too late to help them; is unjust to our Treaties, and unkind to our Confederates, 4 dishonourable tothe English nation, and shew* 4 you very negligent of the safety of England, and of our Protestant neighbours. 4 8. Ordering immediate hearings to trifling Petitions, to please Parties in elections; and postponing the Petition of a Widow, for the blood of her murdered daughter, without giving it a reading, is an illegal delay of Justice, 4 dishonourable to the public Justice of the nation. 4 9. Addressing the king to displace his friends, upon bare surmises, before the legal Trial, or any Article proved, is illegal, and inverting the law, and making execution go before judgment; contrary tothe true sense of the law, which esteems every man n good man, till something appears to the contrary. - 4 10. Delaying proceedings u|k>u capital Itn- penchments, to blast the reputation of the persons, without proving the fact, is illegal and oppressive, destructive to the Liberty of Englishmen, a delay of Justice, and a reproach of Parliaments. 4 11. Suffering saucy, indecent Reproaches upon his majesty’s person, to be publicly made in your house, particularly that impudent Scandal of Parliaments John How, without shewing such resentments as you ought to do; the said John How saying openly, That his majesty had made a felonious Treaty to rob his neighbours; insin ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'Liberty of the Subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the People of England, in case their Representa- lives in parliament do not pioceed according to their duly, and the people’s interest, to inform them of their dislike, disown their actions, and to direct them to such things as they think fit, either by Petition, Address, 4 Proposal, Memorial, or any other peaceable way. 4 2. That the bouse of commons, separately, 4 and otherwise than by Bill legally passed into an Act, have no legal power to suspend, or dispense with, the laws of the land, any more than the king lots by his prerogative. 4 3. That the house of commons have no legal power to imprison any person, or commit them to the custody of .Serjeants, or otherwise, 4 (their own members excepted) but ought to address the king to cause any person, on good grounds, to be apprehended; which person so apprehended ought to have the benefit of the Habeas Corpus Act, and be fairly brought to a Trial by due course of law'. 4 4. That, if the home of commons, in breach of the Laws and Liberties of the peo- pie, do betray the trust reposed iu them, and 4 act negligently, arbitrarily and illt gaily; it is the undoubted Right of the People of England to call them to an account for the same; and by Convention, Assembly, or Force, may proceed against them as Traitors and Uctray- ers of their country. 4 These things we think proper to declare, 4 as the undoubted Right of the Peopleof England, whom you serve. And in pursuance of that Right, avoiding the ceremony of Peti- tiohing our inferiors, for such you are by your present circumstances, (as the person sent is less than the seuder) we do publicly protest against all your aforesaid actions; and, in the name of ourselves, and all the good people of England, do require and demand: 4 1. That ull the public just Debts of the nation be forthwith paid and discharged. 4 2. That all persons illegally imprisoned, 4 as aforesaid, be either immediately discharged, 4 or admitted to bail, as by law they ought to be; 4 and the Liberty of the Subject recognized and restored. * 3. That John How aforesaid, be obliged to ask his majesty pardon for his vile retlec-‘ tions, or be immediately expelled the house. 4 4. That the growing power of France be taken into consideration, the Succession of the emperor to the crown nl Spain supported, 4 and our Protestant neighbours protected as the true interest of England, and the Protes- taut. Religion requires. 4 3. That the French king be obliged to quit Flanders, or that Ins majesty be addressed to declare War against bun. 4 0. That suitable Supplies be granted to his majesty, for the putting all those neces- si.tv things in execution; and that care be taken, mat such Faxes as are raised, be more equally assessed and collected, and scandalous Deficiencies presented. 4 7. That ne Thanks of the house may be given to those Gentlemen, who so gallantly appeared in the behalf of their country with the Kentish Petition, and have been so scair- dniously used for it. 4 Thus, Gentlemen, you have your duty laid before you, which it is hoped you will think 4 of: but if you continue to neglect it, you may expect to be treated according to the resent- uients of an injured nation; for Englishmen are no more to be Slaves to Parliaments, than to Kings. 44 Our Name is Legion: 44 And we are Many. 4 P. S If you require to have this Memorial signed with our names, it shall be done ou your fust orders, and personally presented. ’ Vote thereon.] The consequence of this was, that a Complaint was made to the house, of endeavours to rai?e Tumults and Seditions, in order to disturb the Public Atfairs, and a Committee was appointed to draw up an Address to the king humbly to lay before him the Endeavours of several ill-disposed Persons to raise Tumults and Seditions in the kingdom, and 1257] PARL. HIST. 13 William III. \701. — Impediment of the E. o/Orford. [1258 humbly to beseech his majesty that he will provide for the public Peace and Safety. * Difference between the two Houses upon ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ointed to sit on that occasion; " That they should also take into consideration, the rights and liberties of all the commons of England; " which was agreed to accordingly. Thus the two parties were so far set upon even ground; and it was apparent that in this contest neither would be able to obtain any considerable advantage over the other: and, indeed, unless a large body of l ories withdrew before the house was resumed, which for want of sufficient lights, cannot be ascertained, we ought to conclude, perhaps, that the party split upon a measure which some foresaw would be unprofitable: for, according to the Journals, the attendance on that side was, by no means, suitable to the stress which seemed to be laid upon it: for tho>e who did attend, though, at first, so earnest for having the day appointed, were so ill satisfied with tiie issue of it, that they were for postponing the Report; while their antagonists, on the contrary, insisted on its being mode immediately, and upon a division of the house, carried their poiut by 102 voices against 62. The said Report consisted of five Resolutions; to wit: Resolved, 1. " That it is the opinion of this Committee, That to assert the bouse of commons is not the only Representative of the Commons of England tends to the subversion of the Rights and Privileges of the house of commons, and the fundamental constitution of the government of this kingdom. 2. That to assert the h<«use of commons have no power of Commitment but of their own members, tends to the subversion of the constitution of the house of commons. 3. That to print or publish any Books or Libels, reflecting upon the proceedings of the house of commons, or any member thereof, for or relating to his service therein, is a high violation of the Rights and Privileges of the house of commons. 4. That it is the undoubted Right of the people of England, to Petition or Address to the king, for the calling, sitting, and dissolving of parliaments, or for the redressing of grievances. 5. That it is the undoubted right of every subject of England, under any accusation, either by Impeachment or otherwise, to be brought to a speedy Trial, in order to be acquitted or condemned and these Resolutions were severally confirmed by the house. Ralph. Message concerning an Union ti'ith Scotland.] Feb. 28. The king being very sensible, that the Protestant Succession would not be so easily settled in Scotland, where it might be retarded, on purpose for a claim to an independence on the crown of England, and that nothing was more seasonable at this juncture, than an union of the two kingdoms, scut the following message 1941] PARL. HISTORY, 19 William to the house of commons, being disabled from coming to the house of peers by a fall from his horse two days before: " William J{. His majesty, being at present hindered by an unhappy accident from coming in person to his parliament, is pleased to signify to the house of commons, by message, what he designed to have spoken to both houses from the throne. His majesty, in the first year of his reign, did acquaint the parliament, that commissioners were authorized in Scotland to treat with such commissioners as should be appointed in England, of proper terms for uniting the two kingdoms, ana at the same time expressed his great desire of such an union. His majesty is fully satisfied, that nothing can more contribute to the present and future security and hup-piness of England and Scotland, than a firm and intire union between them; and he cannot but hope, that, upon a due consideration of our present circumstances, there will be found a general disposition to this union. His majesty would esteem it a peculiar felicity, if, during his reign, some happy expedient for making both kingdoms one might take place; and is therefore extremely desirous, that a treaty for that purpose might be set on foot; and does, in the most earnest manner, recommend this affair to the consideration of the house." Burnet, Boyer, Tindal. ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the people) was at- first immediately derived from live king; for that, where histories and records begin to transmit memorials to succeeding ages, we find him sending his writs directed to such persons, towns, or vills, which he thought most considerable within the kingdom; by virtue of which writs, elections were accordingly made, and representatives returned to parliament. That the king’s prerogative does still extend to grant this franchise to such other towns or villages as he shall think fit, I cannot affirm, because some learned in the law assure us it cannot legally be done, but by act of parliament. But others are again of a contrary opinion, as was adjudged in the case of Duncannon and Newark. It is certain, that parliamentary matters were never settled otherwise than by act of parliament, ns appears by several statutes in such cases made; and we also find the privilege of sending members to parliament given to several places by act a ki] APPENDIX, N° I. — Some of parliament, which had been unnecessary, could the king alone have granted it by any other method. It is, moreover, a thing of very-dangerous consequence, to have such a power lodged in the king alone; for then he might thereby infranchise what number of vills he pleases, and by the same power place the election of their representatives in a select number, such as he should always have the power to direct and appoint; which would he in effect to chuse his own parliament, and thereby to make or repeal what laws be pleases. - Wherefore I conceive this point ought now to be settled, so as for the future to obviate all such inconveniences which might otherwise ensue. Another thing, which also requires the care of this great council, is to limit and restrain the exoroitancies of a quo warranto, so that the electing boroughs may have their privileges and immunities secured, from the judgment of a corrupt judge, who derives his being, and holds hisjudicinl breath ouly ‘ ad voluntatem domini.’ If this grievance be not obviated by some good law, a king may as well destroy all the 'old boroughs, as erect new ones, to the inevitable overthrow of our laws and government. In the next place, I conceive it may become the prudence of this parliament (from which we may expect the foundations of our happiness will be so laid, as to become impregnable against all the future assaults of an invading tyranny) to look into the constitutions and customs of such boroughs which have right to elect, and which in several particulars, .seems to require a touch of the supreme authority to set them right. The first inconvenience they labour under, is the variety of their respective titles; some claiming to elect by prescription, others by grant; some again by a select number, others by thepopolacy; some by the magistrate and burgesses, others by the magistrate, burgesses, and freemen; others again by the magistrate, burgesses, freemen, and commonalty, and some also in respect of their ancient borough houses only; the rest of the town, which is the much more considerable part, being excluded. The grievance which grows from this difference of title in several boroughs, is often ambiguity and uncertainty of title in the same borough; for sometimes the select number contends with the community, one borough house with another, &c. And from hence it is, that we have usually so many petitioners in each parliament, the magistrate not knowing which of right ought to be returned. Nor can a committee of elections ever settle their respective titles, by a final determinative judgment: for we fiud it often giving an opinion upon one and the same title, and in the same borough, differently, a6 favour and power can make the stronger interest. All this may be remedied by an act, which should give one and the same new title to all the electing boroughs in England and Wales, by which alone, they should all, for the future, claim to send members to parliament; thereby settling tiie electing power in such persons, (whether Observations concerning the [iv they be a select number, or the whole populace) as in prudence should be thought most convenient. The design of chusing the members of parliament by the people, was that do laws should be made, no monies raised, nor any course pursued, by those who sit at the helm, but with the steerage and direction of the people, by their representatives. Now by all the laws and rules of representation, no town, city, or body of people, can be represented without a vote in the choice of thetr representative. That the parliament, as now constituted, is no c ]ual representative of the people, is notorious; in that several boroughs, so inconsiderable, that they contain not above three or four houses, send each of them two representatives to parliament, whilst others (which contain an hundred times their number of houses, people, trade, and wealth) Imve no representative at all in the management of public affairs. So also the county of Cornwall sends no less than forty three members to parliament, whilst the city, and whole county of Chester sends hut ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gs hitherto tend so directly to the general good of the nation, that we must either want common understanding not to see it, or prove most ungrateful to our representatives not to acknowledge such an evident truth as this is with our most thankful returns. To proceed with some method in this designed vindication of the late parliament, I shall, first, take a summary view of the late condition of our affairs; and, 2dly, give a full answer to whatever is maliciously suggested to the unthinking multitude; yea, and in printed paipphlets likewise, to the seducing of the simple, and to the great encouragement of the professed enemies and disturbers of the present government. — IV. If we consider in what condition we were in, the two last years of king James's reign, we may remember we were given up for lost by all our friends in Europe, and did think so too ourselves, it being then impossible for us to imagine from whence our relief should come. A power of dispensing with, and suspending of laws, and the execution of laws, was already so fully established, that the very humble petitioning to be excused from concurring to the said assumed power, was crime enough for the commitment and prosecution of divers worthy prelates:the court of commissioners for ecclesiastical causes was a sort of inquisition; or, at least, a certain fore-runner of the new way of converting people, by the irresistible eloquence of armed dragoons:the levying money for, and to the use of the crown, by pretence of prerogative, for other time, and in other manner, than the same wns ranted by the parliament, was nothing else ut a preparatory contrivance, to try afterwards a French experiment upon the gold and silver of the nation: the horrible and illegal punishments inflicted by corrupt judges, excessive hues and bails, and several grants and promises made of fines and forfeitures, before any conviction or judgment against the persons, wpon whom the same were to be levyed; and all the other injustices, grievances, and irregularities of those days, were but previous dispositions to the new modelling of the nation into n frame, the more easily to be wrought upon by the Romish priests, in case their weak arguments could not prevail, as it was impossible they should have prevailed, in a nation so well provided and stocked w ith solid learning, both against error and superstition. — -V. If this was our condition witlrni ourselves, it was made much worse by the dismal prospect of the threatening French greatness: the French king’s known and close engagements with the late king James, the sudden growth of his power, both by sea and by land, seemed to threaten all his neighbours with the utmost desolation, uhless, by laying aside the use of their reason, they acted all like fools, and turned papists; which could not secure them neither from oppression and slavery, since none are greater slaves, nor so unmercifully oppressed as the French papists themselves:this is but a short and summary view of the public calamities and miseries we lay under, till our deliverer came over to free us from them, by the best methods our representatives could' fall upon for our safety in times to come: which are certainly such as give full satisfaction to all good men, and loyal subjects, that are not still id love with popery and slavery, both of body and soul, which always attends it: so that the present posture of our affairs is now such, that we have all reason to hope, if we cau but agree among ourselves, this kingdom may become again, as it was of old, the terror of France. Europe never bid fairer for a level of the French monarch, he being now surrounded on all sides, by those he has made his irreconcilable enemies, by his daily breaches of oaths, by his oppressions and invasions, contrary to all Treaties made with him, either of peace or truce. — VI. We cannot then but highly commend the prudent measures of the last parliament, for supplying his majesty with necessaries, towards a vigorous pr ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- should scruple to secure ourselves by ibe help of foreigners from the Jacobites and the male-contents, who might perhaps get the upper-hand, if not prevented in time, by some good method, as this is now thought to be. — XIII. No farther encroachments upon our rights and privileges are to be feared in time to come, since tbs bad success of all our late kings is an example to all their successors, wherein they may read their destiny, if they understood so little their own interest, as to act arbitrarily, as some of their predecessors did, tp the great disturbance indeed of their subjects for a time; but at last? let the utter ruin of themselves and their adherents:his present majesty is so fully persuaded of this truth, viz. That the sovereign’s greatness in England depends chiefly and only upon the love of his subjects; that taking his interest and the people’s to be the same, as really it is, and always ought to be, to shun the dangerous factions of court and country, be prudently complied with their just desires, to whatever they thought fit to be done tor tin common good. 1 am then of opinion, that England was never so happy as it is now, (laying aside the consideration of the present war so absolutely necessary,) because of the good understanding of the king and his subjects, though our seditious pamphleteer leaves no stone unturned to divide them; whoever he is, he must needs be a man of a strangely disaffected spirit, since he blames the late parliament, for allowing his majesty so much power, as makes him a true king, and not the bare representation and shadow of one, as he would really be, if according to the project suggested by this mnu, he should not be ntlowed so much as the liberty of chusing his own counsellors, nor of proroguing parliaments either, upon occasion, &c. — XIV. The suspending and stopping, or stabbing, as he calls it, of the Habeas Corpus Act, puts him in a great fit against the late parliament, as hnving by this suspension j wronged the liberty of the subjects; yet if before we give our last judgment upon rhemat-ter, we consider as we should do, all things impartially, not suffering ourselves to be biassed, by a wrong apprehension of things, we shall easily discover that t he suspending of that act, at that time, was the only way to secure our properties and liberties, by preventing a civil and domestic war, which in all likelihood bad ensued, ha^ it not been prevented in time, by impowering the king to secure such as, because of their quality, or their former engagements with the then malecontents, were like * xiv] APPENDIX, N° IV. — the liest to prove ringleaders to new disturbances, in a time when things were not as yet settled upon so sure a foundation as they now are. — XV. But nothing is more insufferable in this seditious phaniphleteer, than his affected jealousy of his majesty’s being a sincere protestant; as if the nation should be the more afraid of him upon this account, because forsooth the parliament is likelier to give him more power, than if he were a papist, or of a contrary religion to that of the nation. This is such an unaccouutable reflection, that I cannot but wouder to hear it from the mouth of any man, that either pretends to common sense or reason:for, 1st, At this rate of arguing, it would be better for us to have a king we hated and feared, than one of the same religion we loved, and were sure of; which is such an absurd inference, that none but a madman can propose it as reasonable. 2dly, Grant what he says to be true, as it is not, our religion, however, is secure, and perhaps the securer, the greater power we trust him with. But, Sdly, As our late representatives gave so much power to our glorious deliverer, as made him a king, and .a powerful one too, so on the other hand, they have had so much regard to the safety of the people, as to secure their privileges and civil rights from any future incroachments of the prerogative, as may easily be made out by the lute act, declaring the rights ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ow, and the terror of this spreads; there can be nothing left to give a more absolute horror of king James than this, and when an invasion comes, to drive the body of the people from an easiness and uncon-ccmedness (which otherwise they would be iU towards any such Revolution carrying on) into a very desperation; which will produce .tlm uttermost resistance, when it may be expected they should be forced to yield. — The bint that I have given may shew, 1 think, how much the commou Jacobites are besides their interest, and how well they know to wish as well for their king’s particular interest, a9 for the general interest of their country; and what mighty service they do king Janies, and disservice to king William, by their common way of talking about the force of France at sea, and their endeavours to give still greater grounds for such terror. — But to come now to the behaviour of the other two Parties that are shut up within that of king William's. Every body knows there are two sorts of men; in each of which, there are such as are engaged to king William's Interest, as absolutely and without reserve, as he has required of them, or can require of them, in any prostitute sense:and yet these two are perpetually opposing one another, and make two sides, which are commonly distinguished by the names of Whig and Tory. According to the too good success that the courtier has had; we see that, notwithstanding any interest that the patriots (as many as there are) can make; and notwithstanding that odium which 90 many of the court-followers have incurred, yet there is still this fatality, that those continue mainly prevalent in each; those move the herd of both these Parties; those have, in effect, the sway, that are with all that latitude I have said, engaged in the interest of this court: for, whoever calls this court in question; whoever doubts its good intention to English men, to English liberties and government; whoever quotes past Declarations, or instances a present Grievance; nay, or that in discourse is but luke-warm towards the state; a way is found (and it seldom fails) to make that man ill thought of by the herd, suspected by tlte vulgar of his party, and shunned as a deserter:fur with one Party he is insured a Commonwealth's man, and with the other, a plain Jacobite. For what else APPENDIX, N* V.-W of the PubUck. kxxix] * should he be, that acts against this government? Thus, with one short question, and that equivocal term of Government, as it is put there, the courtier does his business. — This shews what is understood here by Whig and Tory, moaning as the court is prevalent over both those Parties. And as thus, let us consider how they act; whether as likely to obtain their common end in the support of this government, in the manner it is suffered to be carried on by them; or whether, when that is done, as likely to obtain either of them their separate end (in prospect of which they so assist, and court tins government) and as likely to carry their expected advantage over their opposite party. — The Tories have it for their end to see the Church established in as high power as ever; to see it f?ced from the eyesore of Dissenters and fanatics; to remove the ill precedent of Scotland; to set up Episcopacy in such strength as is required by the clergymen themselves, to put them out of fear of every thing; and to have a king governing with as large a prerogative as may be; but still by the means, ami under the tuition of such a Church. The Whigs dread such a power in the Church, and are so dis-satisfied with what it has of that king already, fearing what may come, that they expect a greater security than is given them at present, that those who are Dissenters from, or under the mark of the Church for being ill friends to it, may never aee it in a condition to take its revenge, or give them any disturbance. These men exclaim generally against all Arbitrary Power, but more especially that which the Church w’Ould introduce, and the ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- liaments may not become unnecessary. I shall stop here, and say no more concerning a Land-Tax, because this Paper is too long already, and because my chief intent in writing it, as I said before, was not so much to urge arguments for a Land-Tax, as to offer some considerations which might shew the Danger of a General Excise. N° VII. Some short Considerations concerning the State of the Nation. Printed about November, 1692. Written by John Hampden, Esq. A DAY being appointed by the house of commons for considering the State of the Nation, before the day which they have set for considering the king’s Speech, we are encouraged to hope that they intend to proceed with great deliberation and caution m their debates concerning the weighty matters which now lie before them, greater than which never nor can lie before any parliament; and such, as that the measures taken upon them must determine the happiness or misery of this kingdom, the preservation of our Religion, Li- * State Tracts, published during the Reign of William III. vol. ii. p, S20. Vol. V. Appendix. berty and Country, or the ruin of all. — Perhaps there never vras any time in which it was more necessary to join heads and hearts for the service of our native country, that so a safe and effectual method may be agreed upon to bring the nation through the great and many difficulties it labours under, to attain the end which was proposed in the late Revolution, and in that VVar in which we are engaged for the defence of all that is dear unto us, against those who are the sworn enemies of our Religion and Country. — It is plain, the evils and dangers which press us are great and numerous, and we acknowledge the Parliament (which is our great State-Physician, and, under God, the Jxvii] APPENDIX, NO VII. — Remedy of all oar ills) has already given a singular instance of their wisdom and cnre of the public, in appointing a time to consider the jtate and condition in which we are. — It is impossible to cure a distemper till the state of the patient be known. Matter of fact must always go first: it is in vain to imagine or propose expedients for our Relief till we are fully informed and agreed what our case is; and when that is well understood, the nature of the disease will naturally lead to those Remedies that are most proper. This order of proceeding has always been practised in our parliaments, who never mistook when they would give themselves the time thoroughly toexamiuc the state of things before they catne to a determination. Precipitate counsels have often done us great mischief; but when matters of great importance have been freely debated and clearly understood, before any resolution was taken, the eud has never been otherwise than happy. — 'There is not a body of men in the world, who have so noble a trust reposed in them, os that which is in the House of Commons from the people of England. Our neighbours the Dutch, though they send deputies to their*States to manage their public affairs, yet limit them with Instructions and Orders beyond which they cannot go:and if any new matter of debate arise in the Assembly of their States, the deputies can do nothing till first they go or send to their Towns for new instructions. And the same I might say of limitation of trusts and powers' in other governments, where deputies are appointed and authorized to act in the name of the people. Butin England the case is quite otherwise; the people of this nation do intirely put themselves and their whole concerns into the hands of their Representatives in parliament. They have no distrust of them, aid therefore put no manner of shackles upon them; but taking it for granted they will employ their utmost skill and wisdom for their good, they frankly entrust them with their power, purses, and all other things wherein the strength of the nation consists; that being clothed with so great and unbounded ao authority, they may be the better enabled to direct the money, men, arms, shipping, and ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ong as lie pleased by his prerogative royal, notwithstanding the laws for annual parliaments; and it being uncertain whether he would call one or no, since he had not done it fur several years before that time, it could not be the intention of the law to keep men without trials in prison all their lives, which, for ought they knew, might be all ended before the king would think fit to call a parliament. And therefore they thought they hhd power to relieve men in such cases; and accordingly they let out those prisoners under bail, who have ever since continued to be at liberty, both before and since the revolution. These discourses of the jodges of the king’s bench were taken in notes by the lawyers, and will doubtless appear in any of their report* that shall be printed, as the unanimous opinion of all the judges of that court; and the order of court, which was made for admitting those lords to bail, in pursuance to that principle and maxim of the judges, that it is in the king’s power to keep off parliaments as long as he pleases, is a standing testimony upon record, tlmt oar constitution, as well as our laws, is entirely in the king’s breast, and that he has the prerogative of governing us without parliaments always, or as long as he pleases. While such points as these rerttttin unsettled, and suck precedents uncondemned, it is plain our government is altogether without settlement; and that whilst the holding of parliaments is precarious, and absolutely depending upon the pleasure of the crown, there can be no safety for the life, estate or liberty of the English subject. 3. Thus it appears, as one part of the State of the Nation, that we are in a condition of unsettledness in reference to the government: but we arc farther in a very sad unsettled estate in many other respects. We are unsettled as to the quiet enjoyment of our own houses. There are precedents lately made, both in public and private houses, of quartering soldiers, contrary to the antient law, the Petition of Right, and the express fetter of the act of Car. 2. And this is the less excusable, because there was a bill past the house of commons last sessions, to enable them to quartet their soldiers, and to regulate the manner a# it: but there were some things in tl»e preamble of that bill which displeased some people; and therefore it was thought better to quarter them without law, and against law, than to suffer a bill to pass which had some clauses in it that seemed to put too much restraint upon prerogative. If such oppressions and invasions of APPENDIX, N° VH.- — Some sfarrt Corotdttrttioia kxvii] APPENDIX, N° VII. — concerning State of the Nation. [lxxviii the liberty of the subject are let alone without remedy, it is to little purpose for parliaments to meet to consider the, State of the Nation, or to pretend to make any provision for our safety. And the truth is, this cannot be. remedied but by a new Bill of Rights, declaring again the right of the English subject in this bolialf. 3. The same may be said in reference to our property. We are likewise in a very unsettled condition in that respect. For this, I shall only at present give one instance, which is that of seizing the subjects property for transport-ships, without settling any fund to pay them, as has been made out before the commissioners of accounts, by which many have been oppressed and ruined. 4. But further, we are in an unsettled condition as to our very lives. There is no man ignorant of the barbarous proceedings in trials for treason in the late arbitrary reigns. Men were condemned and executed upon the ev idence of single witnesses, upon papers not proved to be their hand-writing, by innuendo’s and far-fetched constructions; all the benefit allowed them by the laws was denied them, illegal juries packed upon them and the laws which had been provided by the wisdom of our ancestors for the defence and security of the subjects life, were by perverse and false constructions, put upon them by corrupt and mercenary lawyers and judges, made use of to murder and destroy the best men wc had. The remedying of this great evil was declared to be one of the main ends of the revolution. And yet things are still at this day in the same condition, in that respect, as they were before the king came into England. The lives of the subjects are in as much danger as ever, since there is no manner of security yet provided against the open violations of iaw in the last reigns. Nay, the very same corrupt opinions are now delivered for law, which king Charles and king James’s judges were infamous for. For it is but few days a*o that some of the judges declared, in the lords house, that one witness ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- h descent, our militia is raised, to the vast expence and burden of the kingdom; but it is so unexperienced, undisciplined, and composed of such persons, that it can never be any real defence to the kingdom in time of danger. There is 1 indeed no militia settled, but what is burden-some and useless. Several bills, it is true, have been offered to this and the last parliament for putting the militia upon a useful foot to the kingdom, but they never came to any thing, being always opposed and defeated by those who thought it more for their purpose to have a regular standing force kept up. Our ancestors were a warlike people, and it was the policy of those free and honest times, to keep all the people of England to the exercise of their arms; and for this purpose there were divers laws made, which were duly and constantly executed, by which means all the men in the nation, who were able to bear arms, were perfectly well-disciplined, and enabled to defend their country in their own proper persons, which is the only true defence of a free country. With this sort of men, drawn together as occasion required, our ancestors conquered France several times over:and with this surt of men it is at this day that the Swiss defend their liberty; rut power in Europe daring to invade, or attack a free nation armed and disciplined in its own defence, and which fighting for itself, can neither be corrupted like an array of mercenaries, nor enter into designs against its own liberty and happiness. When our old laws are revived (with such alterations as the change of arms, and the present way of fighting requires) and our old discipline restored, our militia will then be significant indeed for our defence, and not till then. There is one clause in the Bill of Rights which seems to look towards this, which is, that every English subject has a right of keeping arms for his defence. But this is not enough, the old iaws must be revived, and our militia, which is at present but a burden and grievance to us, must be put into a real condition of being useful, and a true defence to the nation. This is another point in which, I say, we are wholly unsettled, and that is, the way and manner of defence of the kingom; and this is another art of the present dangerous and unsettled tate of the Nation. 6. Another thing in which we are in a lamentable unsettled condition, is, the course of our trade, which was touched before under the head of decay. Our merchants are ruined by the loss of their ships and goods, and their best opportunities of trade are lost for want of convoys. Our seas and coasts are not defended, and our natives are forced to have recourse to foreigners to guard and convoy their ships, who carry away the money that should be earned and kept m England by our English seamen. All nations are permitted to trade with France, and supply them with whatever is necessary for the carrying on this war, whilst we alone lose the benefit of such a trade; so that in effect, we make war against France alone, and all the world makes war against us. And certain it is, thnt while the fountain is so plentifully supplied with water from all parts, we ' shall never be able to stop the streams; or, lxxix] APPENDIX, N° VIL — Some short, $e. [Ixxx which is all one, while the fire is so constantly fed with fuel from all hands, we shall never be able to put it out. The greatest and most certain of all our maxims, at this time, is this, that unless we can put a stop to the commerce of Frauce with our neighbours, and to the supply of ships, stores, and other things which they receive from them, we can never hope to bring this war to a happy end. The price of corn is excessive high at present in France, which causes a sort of famine in many provinces in that kingdom:this is a great advantage to us; but if we suffer the Danes, Swedes and Hamburgers quietly to supply them with as much corn as they want, what benefit can we have from this advantage ? The Dutch and Spanish bills of ex ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- there was this summer, when the French were coming ? Yet nobody is found out or prosecuted that was concerned in it. Every body knew that horses and arms were bought, and some were taken. Every county saw that their discontented men flocked up to London. Nobody thought the French would either provide to come hither, or seek to fight us at sea, but upon some ground of treachery; and yet there could be nobody discovered that had any correspondence with them. These things are indications sufficiently plain to any wise man, where the bottom of all this mischief lies:but none are so blind as those who will not sec. All these things put together, make a considerable part of the melancholy and miserable State of the Nation at this present time. If it be asked, what shall be done to remove all these evils? I say, the first step towards a cure, is well to understand our disuse; and if the parliament can he thoroughly sensible of these things, and make the king likewise sensible of them, the very nature of the disease will of itself lead to the proper remedies. Therefore I am humbly ot opinion, that the parliament should begin by a most humble, dutiful and respectful address to his majesty, representing to him the true State of the Nation in its pre- likxi] APPENDIX, N° VIII. — An Enquiry, [Ixxxii sent circumstances, returning thanks in the most humble and affectionate manner imaginable for that gracious expression of demanding the advice of the parliament, and assuring him, that neither their advice or assistance shall be wanting for maintaining and defending his person and government aguinst the attempes of all his enemies; as on their side, after what be has said at the opening of this session of parliament, they cannot doubt but his majesty will heartily concur with them in what they shall advise for his honour, safety, and greatness, and the good of the nation. After this Che parliament will proceed to offer to his uia- Ssuch bills as may be most proper to re-y the grievances of which «e complain; and at the same time that they give money for carrying on the war, will advise such measures as may best enable his majesty to bring down the excessive power of France, and at the same time to secure the happiness and liberties of the English nation. If debates are free and clear within doors, so as to encourage those without, to hope that there is really n probability of something to be done for the good of the nation, there will be farther proposals made of such things as are thought most proper and necessary to be done at this time. N° ym. An Enquiry; or a Discourse between a Yeoman of Kent, and a Knight of a Shire, upon the Prorogation of the Parliament to the i2nd of May, 1693. By Major Wildman and Mr. Hampden. * The Bill Jor frequent Parliaments. — The Inconvenience of refusing to pass Bills. — Annual Parliaments the former Custom in England. — Not calling of frequent Parliaments often complained of. — The great inconvenience of it. — The Constitution not secured without it. — Calling of frequent Parlia-tnents no lessening of the Prerogative. — Frequent Parliaments lessen the Power of Favourites. — Culling of Parliaments no act of Orace, but of Duty. — Long Intervals of Parliament one great reason of complaints in Ch. i:$llcipn. — Friends to arbitrary Power always Etiennes to Parliaments. — Pensions to Parliament-men owned to be paid in Ch. ll.’sReign. Yeoman. Sir, your humble servant, I am happy to meet you at this friend’s house, where I did not expect you. Pray, sir, is the news true, that the king hath prorogued the parliament to. day? Knight. It is very true, we are prorogued to the 2nd of May next. Ycom. Were all your Bills passed that were agreed on by both houses ? Knt. I wish I could tell you they were. Yeom. 1 hope, sir, the king hath not refused any public bills ? Knt. Which are those you call public? Yeom. Truly, sir, those two wherein the country reckoned themselves most concerned are, That for securing the Founda ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mes. — These men make a specious shew of their love to the advancement of the honour and greatness of the crown, as if they were their majesties principal friends, though in truth they are daily undermining their majesties legal title to the crown, by the pernicious notions of the late reigns, which are contrary to the fundamental maxims of onr government. They commend and applaud the king’s refusal of the late Bill, and some of them have been so bold as to say (whether in love to king William or king James I will not determine) that what the king did therein, was the chief thing that he bath done like a king. He hath shewed, say they, that the being and sitting of parliaments, are only acts of grace from the crown; that the people have no other but a precarious right to them, to have them only at such times, and in such manner, and for so long as the crown please*. These gentlemen pretend to great moderation, and privately whisper to such as they hope to lead, that the principles of our government were too strictly and severely laid down in the late Revolution. They say, that the Original Contract between the king and the people, should not have been set forth as an equal contract on equal terms, whereby the kings were as strictly bound on their part, as the people on theirs; as if each party had no right to claim a share in the legislative power in parliament, or any other administration of the sovereign authority, save only by force of tl»e contract. No doubt, say they, his majesty is now advised, that the original of the legislative and executive sovereign power ought to be wrapped in clouds, and not exposed to vulgar eyes. It is nn indecency to have it commonly said of so great and almost divine persons as kings, that they receive all that majesty and glory only from their people. It is below, say they, the high regal office, to have it said by all the people, that their majesties must, within appointed times, call parliaments, and let them redress the peoples Grievances os the laws direct. They praise the wisdom of his majesty’s counsels to refuse the Bill, and to avoid any further obligations to the people, than were upon his predecessors. It is fit the kingdom should as much depend upon his grace and clemency for their parliaments, as upon any others that have sat in the throne; and if he xciii] APPENDIX, N° VIII.- had condescended to this Bill, the insoleoce of the people, in their demands of their liberties, might have been insupportable. Ycom. Sir, you have taken infinite pains to instruct me; yet I was such a blockhead, that till this last discourse of yours, I did not apprehend why the king refused the Bill; it wa3 bard for roe to believe that there is so great a party as now 1 suspect, that prosecute the same designs that were in the late reigns to enslave us. I thought that such as enjoyed great preferments, honours and profits by king William’s election into the throne, would never have thought to revive the former designs of enslaving us, by setting up pretences of a power in English kings above parliaments, by Divine Right, antecedent to the Contract between king and people. Though I am convinced there are some men who have so far lost all sense of honour and conscience, that they may be still engaged in the former pernicious enslaving designs; yet before this your discourse, I did not think that any number of Englishmen were so corrupted or infatuated as to think, that our whole constitution, our government by laws, and all our estates, liberties and lives, arc holden by the mere grace and favour of our kings. I must confess you have mentioned several of those gentlemen’s seeming reasons against passing the Bill, that are spun too fine for our country heads. We should have thought that nothing of our Rights could have been too plainly set down, when we were to declare, as was done in the Revolution, what are and have been the rights of us and our ancestors, reserved in the very constitution from all ages. But I pe ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- of our countrymen know well enough this sort of false-hearted men; but they for their base compliances getting up xcv] APPENDIX, N° V1II. — A to be our masters under king Charles and king James, grievously oppressed us then, and have now again got such powers and preferments, as if they bad brought about the late Revolution, and are so able to plague, vex and crush us as they did formerly, that the country dares •not speak their minds of them or their proceedings. But pray, Sir, help me to shew my neighbours how this sort of men, in their designs of Arbitrary Power, always sought to prevent an absolute Settlement of the legal course of successive parliaments. Knt. It would require greater abilities than I have to shew what you desire, by reflections upon our whole history of the contests with the kings for our liberties; .but I will tell you the practice in our times, and those just before us. This sort' of men under James I. made him afraid of the sitting of parliaments, as an eclipse of his power; and insinuated to him, that the calling, adjourning, proroguing and dissolving of parliaments, ought to be absolutely at his will. They also raised disputes, Whether parliaments were of right, masters of the methods of their own proceedings ? or were bound first to consider and resolve upon what the king propounded for Money, or otherwise? By these means they made the sitting of parliaments uneasy to him, so thnt lie was always glad to be rid of them before the necessary business of the kingdom was done. — But that sort of men appeared more boldly upon the accession of Charles I. to the crown. They attempted then to invade the great Fundamental of all Liberty and Property, the power of the people of England alone to impose Money upon themselves. They had the confidence to maintain a power in the kings to take Tonnage and Poundage, nod other monies without act of parliament. They cannot deny that these were their traitorous practices and dcsigus, so long as the great Petition of Right remains upon record. — Neither ought it to be forgotten how parliaments were then browbeaten, and their authority questioned and slighted, and the method of their proceedings controlled, contrary to their fundamental rights and privileges, nor how they were tossed up and dorvn by sudden adjournments, prorogations and dissolutions. The houses, studies, and pockets of divers of their members were searched, their persons against the express laws imprisoned, and the free debates in parliament made subject to the restraining power and censure of inferior courts and judges. The king’s special command and pleasure were declared cause sufficient to detain some of them in prison till death, without trial, or being legally accused of any offence. Yet this sort of men thought all these practices could not secure them, till they brought that king to resolve to have no more parliaments, nnd to forbid the people, by proclamation, to make mention of parliaments. — We ought to call to mind, that for ten or twelve years after, all the counsels of those designers against our legal government, were employed to invent ways to make lurte between a Yeoman of Kent, [xevi the constitution of parliaments useless, and the crown wholly independent upon the people in parliament for Supplies and Aids. Such were the inventions of Loan-money, Privy-Seol-mooty, Knighthood-money, Coat and Conduct-money, arbitrary Fines without Juries lor encroachments upon the King’s Wastes, Ship-money, Billet-money, oppressing Monopolies, and illegal Patents upon trades, almost without number. Such also was the commission paved the great seal, to impose, by pretence of royal authority, an Excise, though the illegality and oppression of it were so manifest, that a sufficient number of persons could not be suddenly found to put it in execution. All projects were embraced that had hut an appearance of supplying the crown, that they might avoid the necessary settlement of successive parliaments. — The last most dangerous and desperate of their designs of that kind was, upon some pretence from Ireland or Scotland, to get an Army, and settle Martial Law, that might raise such Money as a council should think fit, and make Proclamations and Orders of State to be as binding to the subject as acts of parliament. Yet even that was embraced, as appears by the Journals of the Commons in parliament: Mons. Burlemach there openly confessing, that he had received 30,000l. which was sent over seas, to hire German horse to be the foundation of a Standing Army here. — I could tell you, neighbour, that during all these transactions, which lasted divers years, their counsels and endeavours were to divert the king from admitting the legal course of parliaments. The petitions and cries of the subjects to restore them, could not be heard; and agreements were made between the king and several persons of greatest abililies and influence, in order to the arriving at absolute power, that there should be no more parliaments during his life. Nevertheless about the year 1639, the king’s want of money being extremely pressing, they resolved to make use of a Parliament for Supply, but without a thought of doing the kingdom right, in restoring the due succession of parliaments, and the exercise of their legal authorities: and therefore as sooa as they were met, they procured the king to demand of them their giving up their legal fundamental privilege, of considering in the first place, and redressing the peoples grievances; and the king so positively insisted in denying them their Right and Privilege therein, that within 20 days they were dissolved, contrary to the known intention and ends of our constitution. — The failure of the peoples expectation at that time, and the long interruption of the legal course of parliaments, raised great discontents, and loud and general cries of the people for parliaments; the consequences whereof were such, as I dread and abhor to remember: yet it was universally agreed, Thnt the want of the legal course of successive parliaments, and the designs of interrupting mid preventing their meeting and sitting, were the great occasions of all the confusion, blood xcvii] APPENDIX, Na VIII. — and a tfriight a Shire, [xcviii. and mischief that afterwards happened. And no doubt but the parliament then took the only wise and necessary course to prevent all the impending mischiefs and dangers, both to the king and people, when they laboured, with die help of the best lawyers of England, to declare and secure the observance of the antient laws for annual successive Parliaments; and to provide for their certain meeting, and holding them, notwithstanding all possible designs and contrivances against them: which was done to the great satisfaction of the people, by that notable Act of the 10th of Charles I. Yeom. Sir, let me be so bold as to ask you, whether that Act for ascertaining Parliaments did not occasion, or some way promote the tumults and wars that ensued ? Knt. You may easily be satisfied from what was written in those times, of the falshood of such suggestions, and that the king, Jords and commons passed that Act with great unanimity; and that king often gloried in having Eassed that Act for the Security of his people:ut 1 believe you confound the Act for Triennial Parliaments, with another act for making the parliament then in being, in a manner perpetual; for they were not to be dissolved or prorogued, but by their own consent, declared oy act of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e us out of all sense of liberty. What with talking of the church and the monarchy at one time, and the French ci] and popery at another, they will first cheat themselves, and then delude as well as betray the nation. They will most easily betray the Cation, because we are not apt now to find fault with any thing that has a parliamentary sanction. That 200,000l. a year bestowed upon the parliament, has already drawn out of the subjects pockets more millions than all our kings since the Conquest have ever bad from this nation, and that without any rude complaint, is a proof, that if a king can manage well Mr. Guy's office, he may without much ado set up for absolute. Anglia, for Venale estParliament urn. Heretofore indeed it was not necessary only that a parliament should give, but that they should give reasonably; as Flammock’s rebellion, and others in king Henry the 7th’s reigns witness: and yet I believe our rolls will not furnish us with many sessions wherein money was given, and no one country hill grantedk But our ancestors were wise enough to instruct their members, and our constitution so regular, that we bad frequent elections. But when, think you, shall we have a new election now, since the king has about sixscore members that I can reckon who are in places, and tyho are thereby so intirely at his devotion, that although they have mortal feuds when out of the house, though they are violently of opposite parties in their notions of government, yet they vote as lumpingly as the lawn sleeves, n£ver divide when the interest of the family, as they call it, is concerned, that is to say, when any court-project is on fool? The house is so officered, that by those that have places and pensions, together with their sons, brothers and kinsmen, and those who are fed with the hopes of preferment, and the too great influence these have upon some honest mistaken country-gentlemen (who are possibly over-frighted with the French) the king can baffle any bill, quash all grievances, stifle accounts, and ratify the articles of Limerick:I call 'hem mistaken country gentlemen, who can be persuaded that an honest bill can he at any time out of season. I confess they must adore kings more than I do, who when their own management has brought them into difficulties and straits, don’t love to make good use of their humiliation. I Would trust an elected king a great way, if I saw he understood election to he his title; if our generosity would engage him to reformation:but when I see he knows neither his own nor our interest, employs many of those who have been our enemies all along, and were his when the debate of the crown was on foot; when I see him bate and nickname as Cotninonwealths-men, those whose principles made them the authors of his greatness, and those that would have him do the business for which he came, for which both he and we said he came; when I see him sometimes soliciting in person in the house of lords, at others by my lord Portland, besides what he does by all his under-officers, when I hear he sends commands to some lords, and [cii bribes to others, and turns out of his place the gallant lord Beilnmount, merely for giving his vote in the house of commons according to hi* conscience, and thereby intends to terrify others; when I find the money the nation gives to defend our liberties from foreigner* abroad, is like to undermine them at home: in a word, when I see neither the one nor the other house can withstand the power of gold; I say, when I perceive all tins, it is time to give warning, it is time to look about us. — I once thought to have affixed to this paper a list of those that are in office; which if 1 had, it would not only have shewn how many members are bought off *, but would have phinted out many amongst the number of favourite* and pensioners, who we expected should rather have been punished. Had we intended to have justified what we have done to after-tiines; had any thing but personal grandeur been the real in ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 4 1, 370,000 22, 741 184 29 51 60 0 1* 7 10 2, 271 1 4 534,000 19, 00'? 61 75 61* 28 0 12* 28 8 480 17 10 110,000 3, 263 287 564 357 34 1 (.* 35 4 2, 407 8 4 890,000 23, 284 57 43 50 38* 0 7* 2 4 10 1, 705 26 3 0 4 0 £ 810,000 23, 747 8*4 49 49 34 0 17 6 5, 543 1 4 1, 075,000 44, 686 25 37 26 24 I 4 32 0 398 16 8 5, 122 345 227 18 8 4, 378 17 4 1, 312, 500 26, 851 31* 30* 43* 49 0 n as 2 6, 397 1 4 993,000 34, 422 21 40 34 29 1 7 46 0 3, 194 0 4 392,000 34, 218 43 68 34 17* 1 3* 22 6 3, 642 15 6 1, 140,000 21, 537 58 35 54 53 0 9* 40 8 2, 384 17 6 670,000 21, 973 58 60 53 30 1 10* 26 0 2, 107 110 18 19 0 0 £ 540,000 20, 634 62 74 56* 26 0 *4 25 JO 3, 933 15 2 876,000 27, 093 35 46 43 32 1 i 35 0 232 0 0 51 n, i'< 0 6, 501 595 78* 179 79 0 n 6 6 251 7 4 200,000 1, S40 550 200 630 109 0 32 4 565 0 Jl 620,000 5, 934 244 65 197 104 0 22 10 211 11 7 520,000 3, 163 650 77 370 164 0 i* 16 0 544 13 4 700,000 5, 352 254 57 218 131 0 2* 24 5 293 4 370,000 2, 765 470 108 423 134 0 24 25 5 447 l 2 410,000 6, 398 308 98 183 64 0 3* 16 9 237 14 8 160,000 3, 150 580 250 371 51 0 4* 18 1 757 15 8 540,000 9, 644 182 74 121 56 0 4 18 10 201 12 2 500,000 2, 590 685 80 451 193 0 1* 18 8 552 4 4 560,000 5, 660 249 71* 207 99 0 3 23 5 653 0 0 420,000 4, 329 201 95 270 97 0 4* 36 2 30 6 10 348 13 4 310,000 3, 158 395 129 370 9S 0 3* 26 6 137, 641 18 2 39, 938, 500 1, 175, 931 cvi»] APPENDIX, N°XI. — 2 he Danger of Mercenary parliaments. [cnii N° XI. The Danger of Mercenary Parliaments. * Chining of Persons in Offices to he Parliament Men considered. — Nature of a true Parliament. — Of an ill-chosen one. — Corrupting Of Parliaments but of late date. — Instance in King Ch. ‘I. — French Measures followed. — Instance in King James — Nation's Expectation not answered by the Revolution. — Miscarriages in the Amiralty. — Deserters of their Principles censured. — The unjustifiabie-ness of such Actions. — No Security against Corruption of Members. — The dangerous Grievances. — The Advantages of estednessr. i. Several treatises hare been formerly written, and more (I doubt not) will be in this i juncture published, with directions and informations to the people of England for ebusing fit and proper representatives for the ensuing parliament, wherein sufficient notice will be taken of the failures and defects of several who hare already been entrusted in that service, and the due Qualifications of such who are now to be elected. I shall therefore confine my present thoughts only to one particular head, which yet, in my opinion, seems to involve in it the inevitable fate of England, which wholly depends upon the choice of members in the next session of parliament: I mean the choosing or refusing of such persons who are now possest of any places and, de- pending upon the gift and pleasure of' the court. If herein my endeavours prove unsuccessful, I shall have nothing left but the satisfaction of my own conscience to support me under the deplorable consequents and effects which must necessarily attend the choice of a house of commous, filled with officers and court-pensioners. This is the last struggle and effort the people of England have left them for their properties; and should we now miscarry in this, we may sit down and idly shew our affections for our country, and fruitlessly bewail the loss of our liberties, but shall never meet with another opportunity of exerting ourselves in its service. That I may therefore set the minds of people right in this particular ere it be too late, I think it will be only necessary to shew the danger of cliusing members that are in places from two considerations:first, from the nature of such a parliament considered in itself: and, secondly, from what has already been done by parliaments so qualified. In both which I shall be very brief, and content myself with much fewer arguments than might be urged upon this subject: for I should almost despair of being • Printed anno 1GP0 in quarto. See Harlei ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- importance to us. 2. First then. We shall best he able to understand the nature of such an ill-chosen par* liament, by comparing it with a true one, and with the original design of parliaments in their institution. I hope it need not be told that they were at first intended for a support to the king’s just prerogative, and a protection to the subjects in their as just rights and privileges; for maintaining all due honour to the executive power, and all suitable respect and encouragement to those who are intrusted with the administration of the laws; for a poise and balance between the two extreme contending powers of absolute monarchy and anarchy; for a check and curb to insolent and licentious ministers, and a terror to ambitious and overgrown statesmen; for giving their advice to his majesty in all matters of importance; for making necessary laws to preserve or improve our constitution, and abrogating such as were found burdensome and obsolete; for giving the king money for defraying the charges and expences of the government, or maintaining a necessary war against foreign and domestic enemies j for examining and inspecting the public accounts, to know if their money be applied to its true use and purposes:In short, for the best security imaginable to his majesty’s honour and royal dignities, and the subjects liberties, estates and lives. 3. This being the nature and true design of a parliament, let us now sec whether a house of commons, full of officers and court-pensioners, will answer those noble and laudable ends of their constitution. And here indeed I begin already to be ashamed of my undertaking; the proofof the negative isso ridiculous, that iilookstoo much like ajesttoaskany one in his wits, whether a parliament filled with delinquents will ever call themselves to an account, or what account would be given if they should ? Whether an assembly of public robbers will sentence one another to be punished, or to make restitution ? Whether it is possible our grievances can be redrest, that are committed by persons from whom there is no higher power to appeal ? Whether there is any hope of justice where the malefactors arc the judges ? Whether his majesty can be rightly informrd in affairs relating to himself or the public, when they are represented to him only by such persons who design to abuse him ? Whether the public accounts will be faithfully inspected by those who einbexzle our money to their own use ? Whether the king’s prerogative can b« cix] APPENDIX, N XF . — TheDanger of Mercenary . [ci lawfully mnintained by such who only pervert it to their own sinister ends and purposes? Whether a parliament can be a true balance, where all the weight lies only in one scale ? Or, lastly, Whether a house of commons can ▼ote freely, who are either prepossest with the hopes and promises of enjoying places, or the slavish fears of losing them ! Methinks it is offering too much violence to human nature to ask such questions as these; I shall therefore leave this invidious point. 4. Yet lest still any should remain unsatisfied, or lulled into a fond opinion, that these mischiefs will not ensue upon the elections they shall make, I shall farther endeavour to convince those who are most moved by the force of examples, by coming to my second particular, and shewing how parliaments so qualified have all along behaved themselves. And here I must confess there are not many instances to be given, the project of corrupting parliaments being but of a late date, a practice first set on loot within the compass of our own memories, as the last and most dangerous stratagem that ever was invented by an encroaching king, to possess himself of the rights ef a freeborn people; I mean king Charles ?. who, well remembring with bow little success both he and his father had made use of open arms and downright violence to storm and batter down the bulwarks of our excellent constitution, bad recourse at lost to those mean arts, and underhand practices, of b ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ore abhorred. And since no parliament can now sit above three years, the court will meet with fresh difficulties to interrupt them, which may possibly at last make them weary of these practices. It 13 true, indeed, this consideration ought to make us more circumspect in our choice of members, for though we should chuse but an inconsiderable number of pensioners, yet they will soon be able to work over a tna- to their side: so true is the saying, A leaven leavens the whole lump.' Whoever therefore out of any particular friendship, or other motives of fer.r or private interest, should vote for any one person so qualified; let him consider, that as much as in him lies, he makes a compliment of all the liberties of England to the insatiable avarice and ambition of statesmen and court-ministers. Since therefore we have so narrowly escaped our destruction, and one session more of the last parliament would infallibly have ruined our constitution, we cannot surely be so grossly overseen As to neglect the opportunity uow put into our hands for avoiding the like hazards in time to come; which may easily be done, if the freeholders and burghers in England will petition and engage their representatives to consent to a bill which shall be brought into the house, to incapacitate all members for holding offices and preferments: or if it should he thought too much to debar them altogether from the enjoyments of posts of honour and advantage, let them keep them during good behaviour, and not otherwise; that such places may not be reserved in store for those who shall be from time to time elected, and thereby a continued course of corruption be carried on successively through the whole nation, who will in a few years insensibly find themselves so universally infected with this insinuating vice, that we shall be thoroughly ripe for destruction, and readily expose to sale the liberties of England by auction to the fairest bidder. If it was deservedly thought one of our most dangerous grievances, that the judges, who only declare the law, should hold their places ad bcnc cxvii] APPENDIX, N° XT. — The citum: what condition must we be in when our law>makers themselves are subjected to the same temptations? Or what advantage have we got by having our judges commissions for life, when our very legislature itself is prostituted to bribery and sordid gain ? The fortune of England is now brought to the nicest point, and there are critical seasons, which if neglected, will never again he oilcred; and should we now fail in our duty to our country, we aball assuredly fall unpitied by the rest of the world. But if on the other hand we cau by our foresight and diligence prevent for the future the bribing and corrupting of parliaments, it is not to be imagined what security, what happiness, and what immortal reputation will be the never-ceasing concomitants of such a settlement. It the very rump of a parliament, even in the midst of domestic discontents, and beset on all sides with foreign assaults and invasion, were able by that one self-denying act to maintain the public welfare from the danger of inward convulsions at home, and violent concussions from abroad; if that small and broken number without any head, and under so many disadvantages, could by this only means secure our peace, and so widely extend the repute and honour of the English name; what country or what region could ever give limits to the unbounded reputation of a full and legal parliament so uobly qualified ? What nation could there be so powerful ns to resist our forces, or so politic as to infatuate our counsels? There is nothing within the compass of human wishes that we might not assure ourselves from the wisdom and virtue of such a disinterested assembly, headed and incouraged by the most auspicious prince that ever yet swayed the English sceptre:a prince who only waits the opportunity of our own willingness to be happy, and is fired with a longing eagerness to see the nation deserve the glor ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- structive a restraint of the Press is to religious, will equally prove it to be so in civil affairs. 1(3. The greatest enjoyment that rational and sociable creatures arc capable of, is to employ their thoughts on what subject they please, and to communicate them to one another as freely as they think them; and herein consists the dignity and freedom of human nature, without which no other liberty can be secure: for what is it that enables a few tyrants to keep almost all mankind in slavery, but their narrow and wrong notions of government ? which is owing to the discouragement they lie under of mutually communicating, and consequently of employing their thoughts on political matters; which did they do, it is impossible that the bulk of mankind should have suffered themselves to be enslaved from generation to generation. But the arts of state, iu most countries, being to enslave the people, or to keep them in slavery, it became a crime to talk, much more to write, about political matters:and ever since printing has been invented, there have been in most places state-licensers, to hinder men from freely writing about government; for which there can be no other reason, but to prevent the defects of either the government, or the management of it, from being discovered and amended. 17. Fame, reputation, and honour, as they are the greatest incentives to all good and virtuous actions, so they as much terrify men from committing base and unworthy ones. And it cannot be reasonably presumed, considering the general corruption of mankind, hut that the rich and powerful would frequently oppress those beneath them, were they not afraid of losing their reputation, and exposing themselves either to the contempt or hatred of the people:for this law of reputation, if I may so call it, influences men more than all other laws whatever, but if there were a licenser of the Press, he might he prevailed on not only to hinder the injured from appealing to the people by publishing their grievances, hut to license such stones only us mercenary scribblers would write to justify the oppressors, and to condemn the opprest: which, us it would he the greatest encouragement for those men that are above the ordinary remedies of law to crush whom they please, so it would he the highest injustice to deny the injured the last satisfaction of justifying their innocence to the world, winch would be sure to pass a just cpusure rn the oppressors; and this they would the m.uc dread, because if once they lose their credit with the Vol. V. — Appendix. people, they will be very unfit instruments for a court to use. Therefore it is no wonder if all that make an ill use of their power, especially those who have cheated the government as well as abused the people, do endeavour with all their might to have the Press regulated, lest their crimes being exposed iu print, may not only render them odious to the people, but to the government. In a word, all sorts of men whose interest it is not to have their actions exposed to the public, which I am afraid are no small number, will be for restraining the Press, and perhaps will add iniquity to iniquity, by pretending they do it out of conscience to suppress immorality and profaneness. 13. But this is not the worst that may happen, because the Press may he so managed, as to become a most powerful engine to ov erturn and subvert the very constitution; for should a magistrate arise with arbitrary designs in his head, no papers that plead the rights and just privileges of the people, would be stamped with an Imprimatur:Then the Press would be employed only to extend the prerogative beyond all bounds, and to extol the promoters of arbitrary power as the chief patriots of their country, and to expose and traduce those that were really so; which would not only be the greatest discouragement to all brave and virtuous actions, hut be apt to make the people mistake their friends, when they had not the liberty to publish a vindication of their ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of Parliament MATCH TEXT: 'Liberty of Parliament' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of Parliament ['Liberty of Parliament']; Liberty of Parliament ['liberty of parliament'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e world with their impertinence, and make an Imprimatur (as it did formerly) signify uo more than that such a book is foolish enough to be printed ? It is objected, That without licensers any one may reflect on whom he has a mind to, so that most people shall be sensible whom he menus, though he mention but two letters of his name, or useth some other description, by which means he is out of the reach of the law. This may be an argument for the forbidding all printing, but none for appointing licensers; for it is much more reasonable for all to have the liberty to vindicate themselves the same way they chance to be aspersed, thua to let the licenser’s party abuse all others, and the Press not be open for them to justify themselves. But if any one reflects upon another after this manner, let him. make appear whom it is he means, or else be esteemed in law to intend that person that takes it to himself. This I think is all that can be objected as to civil matters, except what relates to sedition and treason, for an answer to which I refer the reader to sect. 13. — I have no more to add, but that my greatest ambition, next to serving the public (which here I have endeavoured to do, without so much as once thinking how it may affect me in my own private concerns) is to approve myself to be, sir, your most faithful anti devoted humble servant. cli] AiTENDIX, N° XIV. — Cons Utt [da N° XIV. Considerations upon the Choice of a Speaker of the House of Commons in the approaching: Session. Printed in the Year 1698.# Every man who has at any time sat in the house of commons, must be sensible, that the 'Choice of a Speaker is a matter of the greatest importance with relation to the freedom of that house:and if liberty be there destroyed in the Toot, it cannot survive in the branches. For this reason, as is well observed in the king’s Declaration, when prince of Orange, the evil counsellors of the lace reign thought the surest method to inslave us was, by undermining the Liberty of Parliaments: And one step which such evil counsellors have always made in that execrable attempt, has been by Places, Uribes and Pensions, to take off the Speuker, well knowing that the freedom of that house depends in a great measure upon their Speaker, as our laws and rights depend upon that house. — A man may easily foresee, that whenever slavery shall be intirely fixed in England, as it is among almost all our neighbours, it must be done by a corrupted parliament establishing a Standing Army:by which means this kingdom will feel the effects of tyranny from that place which ought to be the source of liberty. — Upon this foundation my lord Burleigh grounded his maxim, That England can never be thoroughly ruiued but by a parliament/ And I am sure a parliament can never be more thoroughly fitted to min England, than when by the influence of many members bribed by places of profit, and pensions, a Speaker shall in some future reign be put into the chair, to whom those that are his friends can allow no other character than confidence and dexterity; and that character, those who shall then oppose him, will not deny to him. — Such a one may be granted to be an able man; but those abilities in that place the nation nmy justly dread. Can it with any colour of reason or prudence be said, 1 That there is no danger, let the disposition and obligations of the Speaker be what they will: he is hut a single man; and besides does not determine questions?’ It is true, the ablest general alone, and without troops, is insignificant: but when regulated and well paid forces have a bold and skilful leader at their head, they must conquer; especially if those they encounter be an undisciplined militia just brought out of their several counties. — Mankind ran judge of few tilings otherwise than by outward appearances, which are often deceitful. This is the cause, and may be also an excuse, if former parliaments were disappointed in their Speaker, whose frailty, after he * State Tracts in the reign of William 3, Vol. ii. p. Oil. was chosen, may have been overcome by the gifts and prevailing courtship of the ministers of state. But surely the majority of a house of commons will never chuse one to be their Speaker, whom they find, if the expression may be pardoned, already debauched, and once rejected on the like occasion. — This as it wall bo the first step, so is it oftbehighest consequence; for an error here, like one in war, can never be retrieved:And undoubtedly it will be thought a very ill omen of what may be expected from this house of commons, if they should so unfortunately stumble at the threshold. — It has been criminal formerly in a Speaker of the house of commons to go to court: but the duty of the office of a lord of the treasury must bring him there, and under the greatest temptation of compliance to every thing that is demanded. Nor will the ill effect this may have upon the liberty of parliaments stop here; for it is most certain that such things as are either allowed or connived at under the reigns of good princes, will be made precedents under the bud. Freedom of speech, and ot her essential orders of the house may probably be endangered by one who has declared he knows uo order but the majority:and if he ventured to speak so plainly, whilst we may presume he was aiming at that honour which some would confer upon him, how will he tyrannize with a majority that he will either find or bring into the interest of the court, when he is possessed of the Speaker’s chair. — There are some public trusts, that in their nature are inconsistent with one another, and ought never to be joined in the same person, being designed to be a check upon each other: and a good man can neither with decency nor honesty anite such different trusts in himself. But neither decency nor honesty will bound the ambition of some men. — Suppose lhere has been the greatest misapplication of the public revenues at a time when the kingdom is under the extremest necessity; is it probable that a Speaker will be impartial, or any way assistant to the house in an inquiry after such mismanagement, who was a lord of the treasury during the time of it ? — Suppose a gentleman was 10,000l. debtor to the crown upon the Revolution, and iu a particular clause of the Act of Indemnity procured from the court a release of that debt; can it be expected, that in enquiries how vast sums have been embezzled since that tine, the grand inquest of the nation will be able to make any progress with such a foreman ? — Suppose there is a debt growing every day upon the nation by seamen not discharged, while the money given for so cliii] APPENDIX, NO XIV. — c/iwe Speaker. [cUv necessary a puqiose has been disposed of for keeping up an army that should have been disbanded pursuant to the determination of the last parliament upon the most mature and solemn debates; must not the house expect interruptions in bringing ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- in such an age? I come therefore to those considerations, what wise and honest men should do in this critical juncture. I shall propose preventing physick, safe, were there uo present disease, were there no corruption in our land, were all upright from the lord to the commoner; yet 1 doubt the golden age would not succeed, were all wise as Solomon, and after God’s own heart as David:we know the follies committed by the one and the impieties by the other; let no man depend too much upon himself, let no government depend upon men. Presumption is the highest sin, and prevention the highest wisdom. I doubt not hut some will think, and more [clxir will say, I have writ a tedious preface to a very short treatise; that without so mnchrepetition, without enumerating so many diseases, and times of infection, I might sooner have given my short receipt, which is this:Good people of England, elect those to represent you this parliament, who most probably will secure your being truly represented for ever. In other words, Those who have virtue enough to incapacitate themselves from any service but that of their country, while they take that trust upon them. — Now towards making such a choice, my instructions shall be as short as my advice:Chuse rich men.* For you may know who are rich, and cannot know who are honest:One you think honest may take money, but one that is rich does not want it. Let no character of party recommend or prejudice:poor Whigs, poor Tories, want equally places, and will act alike to get and keep them; but be sure if they want money much, they have not much ambition. Therefore avoid the younger sons of lords, who full of pride, with empty pockets, will endeavour, at the nation’9 cost, to become rich commoners. It is needless to advise against those whose actions have discovered them in foregoing parliaments, those worst of villains, who began like patriots, to conclude like parasites. — Thus I conclude, like a quack, undertaking my remedy shall cure all distempers, whether they lie in the heart or in the brain. No matter what sort of men conspire, whether the bold projects (flaming like comets in the sky) threaten multitudes, or whether the softer methods, like mines underground, work hidden miscliief. Such a national assembly, under the qualifications I have mentioned, would repel the bashaw, and defeat the courtier, and prove strong enough to secure us from the most dangerous designs, those drest up with zeal, and disguised by improbability. Such a parliament would secure us from religious levvdness, protestant arbitrariness, and parliamentary slavery. APPENDIX, N°XVI. — A Litter to a Country Gentleman N° XVI. A Letter to a Country Gentleman, * setting forth the Cause of the Decay and Ruin of Trade. To which is annexed, A List of the Names of some Gentlemen who were Members of the last Parliament, and now are (or lately were ), in public Employments. London, printed in I698. Sir, Yours I received, bearing date the third of the last mouth, by which I find you seem to be much afflicted to see the trade of the nation ruined, and your native country brought into SO great calamity as now it is; and desire me to give you some account, if possible, how, and * Ilarleiau Miscellany, vol. viii p» 4£4. by what means, all these evils have been brought upon the whole kingdom ? Which I shall endeavour to do, in as brief a maimer as I can, and, in order to it, shall relate to you some public transactions in relation to the late war, and then leave you and all rational men to judge, who it is have been the grand instruments of bringing nil these evils upon us. clxv] APPENDIX, No XVI. — on For the situation of our country and the constitution of our government, we have always been esteemed the happiest nation in Europe: and no people in the universe ever enjoyed a longer series of peace and plenty than we hare done. Yet, during the time of the late war, we have seen the trade of the nation, some ages a raising, almost totally ruine ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e been the lords of the Admiralty, and commissioners of the navy, in procuring an act to prevent the embezzlement, and stealing his majesty’s naval »tor« s; and therein they have done wisely, when the seed is stolen, to shut the stable-door. getting into Brest: it having been declared by the house, the government had timely notice given, whereby the said fleet might hare been intercepted. Secondly, In relation to the Mint, it did appear to the house, the moneyers in the Tower had committed foul crimes, and that several dyes had been conveyed away for coining false money abhiad. Thirdly, In reference to the disbanded troopers, that served in Ireland and Flanders, who, by their petition, appear to have been most barbarously treated, contrary to his majesty’s express commands. Fourthly, In reference to the evil actions of the commissioners of the Victualling-Office. Fifthly, In relation to the 27 sail of victuallers being taken by the Dunkirkers; the house having declared, the lords of the Admiralty had timely notice given them, whereby they might have prevented their falling into the enemies bands. These, with a multitude of other matters, that lay before the house, were dropped by our late representatives, who took no manner of care to do the people justice :* indeed, the house appeared very zealous in the prosecution of Mr. Duncomb, who, as they alledged, wronged the king of about 360/. by the false endorsement of exchequer bills-; though, at the same time, it plainly appeared, the king and kingdom had been wronged, by^means of the treasury, f to the value ot 20,000l. in relation to the exchequer bills. Yet, all they did, therein, was to take care how to wash them white; and, while the war was on foot, our late representatives seemed to be very zealous for an act to be made against the buying and selling of employments; but, when once we * Sad it is to consider, bow all complaints of abuses done in the government have been stifled, for want of a committee of grievances, according to our ancient laws and customs, to be sitting, during the session of parliament, to hear the grievances of the people; which, it is plain, was not done all the time of the late war. t The public treasure, in all ages and nations, has ever been accounted as sacred as the king’s person; and those that hove been found to purloin, waste, or mispend the same, have been severely chastised; and if it must be acknowledged, as every man will do, who is not a professed atheist, we are obliged by the dictates of liature, and that holy rchgi >n we profess, to do all such acts as tend to the good and benefit of mankind in general. What ground ol fear then can any man have, that lavs open public crimes, in order to their being examined in a judicial manner? And, if the law, which favours and countenances the act, shall not be able to protect him, little reason can any man have to flatter himself of being secure, the public peace and tranquillity not being long to be maintained by any other means, than a due administration of justice. dxix] APPENDIX, N° XVI. — on had obtained an honourable peace, they soon dropped the matter, as conceiving the people then belter able to hear their pack, * than they were before. There is a matter, wherein it appears, the king has been wronged several thousand pounds, that was designed to have been laid before the late house of commons; but the gentleman, who intended to have done it, was dissuaded from doing it, by a member of the house, who plainly told him, of all their members, they could not make above 100 or 110 at most, in the whole house, that seemed to have any regard to the weliare of the nation: saying, one had one employment, another another, touch one and touch all, and said they did and would support oue another; f and so by all means advised him to decline it. Now I conceive, it is obvious, by what means, and by whom, the trade of the nation has been brought to so low an ebb, and so many public debts contracted, by the consequence of which, many thousands of honest industrious families, in London, &c. are reduced to extreme poverty ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * a la same de Monsieur Jack-How the truth of which there are not- a' few very good gentlemen in town can attest, from whence 1 think I may draw this observation, that either he is a Jacobite, or the Jacobites are a very good-natured people. Noscilur non noscitur ex se. — The following sheets contain an exact History of the Kentish Petition, and of the treatment the gentlemen who presented it, met with both from the house, the serjeant, and at last from their country. The best way to come to a conclusion, whether the gentlemen Petitioners were well or ill used, is to review’ the matter of fact, all panegyrics and encomiums come short of the natural reflections which flow from a true Account of that Proceeding, and the w hole is collected in this form, that all the world may judge by a true light, and not to be imposed upon by partial and imperfect relations. On the 29th of April, 1701, the quarter-sessions for the county of Kent, began at Maidstone, where William Colepeper, of Ilolling-hourn, esq. was chosen chairman, though be was then absent, and with an unusual respect the bench of justices proceeded to do business, and kept the chair for him, for several hours, till he came. — The people of the county of Kent, as well as in most parts of the kingdom, had expressed great dissatisfaction at the slow proceedings of the Parliament; and that the king was not assisted, nor the protestants abroad* considered; and the country-people tiegan to say to one another in their language, ‘ That they had sowed their corn, and the French were a coming to reap it; * And fmm hence it is allowed to proceed, that during the sitting of the session, several of the principal freeholders of the county applied themselves to the chairman aforesaid, and told him, it was their desire that the bench would consider of making some application to the parliament, to acquaint them of the apprehensions of the people. The Chairman replied, It was the proper w'ork of the grand-jury to present the Grievances of the country, and therefore he referred them to the said grand-jury w ho were then sitting/ The grand-jury being applied to, accepted the proposal, and addressing to the said Mr. Colepeper, the chairman acquainted him that they had approved of such a motion made as before, and desired that the bench would join with them; the chairman told them he would acquaint the justices of it, which he did, and they immediately approved of it also, and desired the said Wni. Colepeper, esq. their chairman, to draw a Petition. — Mr. Colepeper withdrew to compose it, and \avrug drawn a Petition, it was read and approved, and immediately ordered to be carried to the grand jury, being 21 in number, who all unam * APPENDIX, N° XVII. — History of the Kentish Petition. clxxvii] APPENDIX, N°XVII. — mously signed it, and brought it into court, desiring all the gentlemen on the tench would do the same; whereupon the chairman and ot' the justices signed it, and the freeholders of the county crowded in so fast, that the parchment was tilled up in less than five hours time; and many thousands of hands might have been had to it, if the justices bud not declined it, refusing to add any more rolls of parchment, as insisting more upon the merits of the Petition, than the number of subscribers. By all which it appears how foolish and groundless their pretences are, who would suggest, that the Petition was a private thing transacted by a few people; whereas it is plain it was the act and deed of the whole county. — As soon as the Petition was signed and there was no more room for any hands, it was delivered by the grand jury to the aforesaid Win. Colepeper, esq. chairman of the session, and he was desired to present it in their names to the Parliament, which at their request he promised to do, and the rest of the gentlemen, viz. Thomas Colepeper, esq.; Justinian Champneys, David Pol-hill, esq.; and Wm. Hamilton, esq.; oifered themselves to go with him. On Tuesday the 6th of May they came to ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e other member for the county of Kent, and Mr. Meredith having agreed to deliver it, iu case sir Thomas Hales should refuse, had appointed to meet them, with several other.gentlemen, members of the house, in order to consult about the matter of the Petition, and the manner of delivering if. — In the morning the house being met, Mr. Meredith came out and told them the bouse was in such a ferment that none of the gentlemen durst appear for it, nor come to them, and he doubted would not venture so much as to speak a word in the house for the Petition. — Nor were these all the discouragements the gentlemen met with in their prc-oiu-ing the Petition, but several members of the house pretending respect, and others that were really their fi iends, and in concern for them, came out of the house to them, and endeavoured to persuade them not to expose themselves to the fury of the house, by delivering the Petition, telling them that Mr. How in particular had said, 4 Tlmt if there were one hundred thousand hands to the Petition, they should be all made examples of.’ And sir Edward Seymour added, 4 That the whole country should be double-taxed, and the estates of those w ho presented it, be confiscated to the use of the war. ’ Although these menaces, together with the almost omnipotent power of the house of commons, had circumstances enough in them to shake the resolution of a whole county, yet they had not the effects here which was expected, for the gentlemen, far from being terrified at all this, unanimously declared their resolution to discharge the trust placed in them by I heir country, and to present it to theliouse; and Mr. Win. Colepeper in particular alluding to the words of Luther, to those who dissuaded liiin from going to the city of Worms, told them, 4 That if every Tile upon the chapel of St. Stephens was a Devil, he would present the Petition.’ And all of them declared, 4 That if none of the gentlemen would do their country so much service as to present their Grievances to the parliament in a legal Petition, they would knock at the door of the house and deliver it themselves.’ Mr. Meredith, finding the gentlemen so resolute, did consent to carry in the Petition, which he performed with great discretion and fidelity. vi chmj APPFXDIX, N° XVII. — The H the Kentish Petition. [chix The Petition beiua thus delivered, the gentlemen attended, tor Air. .Speaker, further to intimidate them, had let fall some speeches, ‘ Hut it was the usage of the house when a Petition was brought m, the persons who presented it ought to he ready without to justify the matter of their I’cliiini.’ And the gentlemen seeing no reason to he ashamed of theirs in particular, resolved to-nbidc the utmost which their and the nation’^ enemies could do to them. Having waited about half sin hour, they were called in to the bar of the house, where Mr. Speaker, treating them in his usual haughty tone, this short dialogue passed between them: Speaker. Gentlemen, is this your Petition ? [Holding up the Petition by the one corner.] Gen'temm. Yis, Mr. Speaker. [Bowing very respectfully.] Speaker. Ami, gentlemen, you own this Petition ? Gentlemen. Yes, Mr. Speaker. Speaker. And, gentlemen, your hands are to this Petition ? Gentlemen. "V es, Mr. Speaker. Speaker. [Turning to one of the clerks.] Carry it to them, and see if they will own their bands.. [Which they severally did.] Speaker. Withdraw, and expect the order of the house. Whereupon they withdrew, ami attended in the lobby, and now began the second attack upon their resolution; for the members, who came out, represented with all the terror imaginable the fury of the house; imprisonment ami the ruin of their fortunes and families was the least they had to expect; impeachments, laws ex post JactOy tacking them to Money-Bills, and all the arbitrary nu thuds which any arbitrary parliament have ever made use of ruin those who have felt theirmagnipotent indignation, were laid before them. W hen some who pretend ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'Right of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- which others have fallen into. — It has been fatal to favourites, to judges, to lords, and to kings, and will certainly be so even to parliaments, if they descend to abuse the people they represent. The imprisoning these five gentlemen had neither reason, law, pretence, nor policy in it. It had no reason in it, because they had offended against no law, either of reason, or the nature of the thing. It had no law in it, because they had no legal power to commit any but their own members. And I am of the opinion, they are convinced there was no policy in it, for there is seldom much policy in doing that publicly, which wc know we shall be ashamed of. The not proceeding against them afterward, showed they were either ashamed or afraid; had they been in the right, there could he no reason to fear: and if in the wrong, they had all the reuson in the world to he ashamed. To commit five gentlemen to custody, for petitioning them to do what they really knew they ought to have done, it was the most preposterous thing in nature: To punish for humbly petitioning! it is nonsense in itself. God himself permits the meanest and most despicable of ids creatures to remind him as we may say, of their wants, and petition for his aid. The most contemptible beggar is permitted to be importunate for relief, and though the law is against [clxxxvi him, we are not ufTronted at it. But to resent the representation of their country, and imprison gentlemen who, at the request of the freeholders of a county, came, under the express protection of an act of parliament, to deliver a petition; it was the most ridiculous inconsistent action that ever the parliament of England was guilty of; and, with submission, I think the best action the same house can do, at their next meeting, is to vote that it should he razed out of their journals, and never be made a precedent for the time to come; upon which condition, and uo other, the nation ought to forgive it them. The Act of 13 Car. 2, to assert the Right of the subjects petitioning, is a sufficient authority for any one to quote, and those that pretend to cull this an illegal act, must first trample down the authority of that act of parliament. Let this act justify me in saying, that to imprison Englishmen tor petitioning, is illegal, and a dishonour to English parliaments, Legion’ Ar- tide 3rd. But, say the lame excusers of this eccentric motion of the house, this was a factious thing contrived by a few private insignificant people of no value, and the matter ot it is saucy and impertinent. — First, had it been a Petition of the meanest and most inconsiderable person in England, and that single by himself, provided he were a freeholder of England, he had a legal right to speak his mind, for that same reason from wheuce the commons in parliament claim a freedom of speech, gives every commoner a freedom to speak to the house, since every freeholder has an equal concern in their debates, and equal power in deputing them to sit there. But because this right unlimited might he tumultuous and uneasy, therefore the method how we shall do it, is circumscribed fur decency's sake, that it shall be done by petition, and that petition shall be presented so and so, and by such a number, and no more: but that it should not he lawful to petition, no tribunal, no court, no collective or representative body of "men in the world ever refused it; nay, the inquisition of Spain does not forbid it; the divan of the Turks allows it, and I believe if Satan himself kept his court in public, he would not prohibit it. — But besides this, the fact is not true: As for it being contrived by a few people, let the impartial relation here given, answer that ridiculous untruth, unless you will account the county of Kent a few, for certainly eleven parts of twelve of the whole county, and now of the whole kingdom, approve of it. — Nor has the reproach upon the persons presenting it, more of truth, unless gentlemen of ancient and illustrious families, whose ances ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- resses into Hills of Supply. 1 he gen- fw k, cw nalion frT, tlemen ought to have had liberty to exp/a , n I To ask omv m themselves, which if they had done, I am ot the opinion that it would have been to this purpose, that they thought it was proper i the house should speedily supply the king so with money, as that lie might he enabled to defend our Protestant neighbours from the encroachments of France; ' and not to lose t tunc in addressing the king in matters of less moment. — ! shall conclude with this siiort animadversion by way of remark, and let all judge of the justness of the observation, (That as this was the tirst time that ever the Fngiish nation petitioned to be taxed, so this was the first parliament that ever addressed the king to take care ot’ himself, and defend himself against his people/ ADDENDA. Some book-lcam’d fools pretend to find a flaw. In our late senate Votes for want of law. And insolently say the Men of Kent W ere rudely handled by the parliament. Knowledge of things would teach them every hour. That law is but an Heathen word for power. Might, right, force, justice, equity, Are terms syuonimous, and must agree; For who shall e’er the argument confute. Where power prevails, and no man dare dispute. Nature has left this tincture in the blood, That all men wou’d be tyrants if they con'd. Not kings alone, not ecclesiastic pride. But parliaments, and all mankind beside. All men, like Phaeton, would command the reins, ’Tis only want of power that restrains. Then why should we think strange the parliament The people's late Petitions shoo’d resent: England has this one fate peculiar to her. Sever to want a Party to undo her, The court, the king, the church, the parliament. Alternately pursue the same intent. Under the specious term of Liberty, The passive injur’d People to betray: And it has always been the People's fate, To see their own mistakes when ’twas too late. Senseless of danger, sleepy and secure, Till their distempers grew too strong Till they 're embrac'd by tire approaching grave. And none but Jove and miracles can save. In vain bold heroes venture to redeem A People ’.vil linger to sink than swim: If there’s a Brutusin the nation found. That dares Patrician usurpation wound, lie's sure to find an ignominious grave. And perish by the People he save. Such are by virtue signaliz'd in vain, We’Jl own the merit, but abuse the men. Marius sav'd Rome, and was by Rome despis’d; And many a Russel we have . Then who for English freedom would appear. Where lives of patriots arc never dear. And streams of generous blood flow unregarded there« Posterity will be asham’dto own. The actions we their ancestors hare done. When they for ancient precedents enquire. And to the Journals of this tige retire, To see one tyrant banish'd from his home. To set five hundred traitors in his room. They'll blush to find the head beneath the tail, And representing, treachery prevail: They'll be amaz'd to sec there was but. five. Whose courage could their liberty survive. While wo that durst illegal power dethrone. Should basely be enslav'd by tyrants of cur own. N° XVIII. Jura Populi Anglicani:or the Subjects Right of Petitioning set forth, occasioned by the Case of the Kentish Petitioners. With some Thoughts on the Reasons which induced those Gentlemen to petition: and of the Commons Rig prisoning*. Printed in 1/01. * Nulla Veritas ulld de re it divert#carere potest, Ut malitiosci calliditaslocum fraudi non invalidt. Ui.ri.AN, Of the Laws of his Time. of III)- What discouraged the Author in his n ark. — Im- J prisoning the Kentish Petitioners not the act j of' the whole. House. — House of Commons not ^Representatives of the it hole People of Eng- I land. — Names of Whig and Puri/ considered. I 7tere formerly Whips. — Their practices (longerons. — Ena land has most reason to he apprehensive of the growing power of Prance. — __________ v, ...c __________ State Tracts publis ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ountry, and is condemned to 'live among wretched and wicked men. For this reason it is that as a man, if he be threatened to be killed, may avoid n feofment +, gift of goods, &c. so it is, if he be threatened to be imprisoned, or kept in duress; lh.it being reckoned to be a ciiil death, any speciality or obligation mode by him is null in law:and he may avoid the action brought upon such speciality, by pleading that it was made by duress. As the common law has shewn a great regard, so, secondly, hus the statute law of this laud abundantly provided for the liberty of our porsons. This is evident from many acts of parliament: The first 1 shall take notice of is the Grand Charter of the Liberties of England, first granted in the i?th your of king John, and renewed twice in the reign of king Henry the third. By that charter it is provided, ‘ that no freeman shall be taken or imprisoned, unless it be by judgment of his peers, or by the laws of the land that is, by jurors who are his peers; or by due process of law. That this is the meaning of those words per Itgtm terra, or law of the land, will plainly appear from divers other statutes which ox plain those words. In 25 E. 3. c. 4. we find them thus explained in these words:" Whereas it is contained in the Great Charter of the franchises of England, that no freeman be imprisoned, or put out of his freehold, nor of his franchise, nor free custom, unless it be by the law of the land, it is accorded, assented, and established, that from henceforth none shall be taken by petition or suggestion made unto our lord the king, or to his council, unless it be by indictment or presentment of his good and lawful people, of the same neighbourhood where such deed was done, in due manner, or by process made by writ original at the common law; and that none be put out of his franchises or freehold, unless he be duly brought in to answer, and forejudged of the same by course of law; and if any thing he done against the same, it shall be redressed and held for null." The 28th of Edw. 3, is very direct to this purpose; there it is enacted, " That no man, of what estate or condition he be, shall be put out of his lands or tenements, nor taken nor imprisoned, &c. without he be brmiebt in to answer by due process of law." 36 Edw. 3. Hot. Pari. Num. 9. Amongst the Petitions of the commons, one of * Mirror of Justices, c. 5. sect. 1. 1- 39 Hen. 1. 65. &c. them, heing translated out of French into English, is thus; ‘ First, That tin; Great Charter, and tile Charter of the Forest, and the other statutes made in his time, and the time of his progenitors, for the profit of him and his common wealth, be well and firmly kept, and put in execution, without putting disturbance, or making arrest, contrary to them, by s^ecirJ command, or in any other." The answer to this Petition, which makes it an act of parliament, is, " (Jur lord the king, by the assent of the prelates, dukes, earls, barons, and the commonalty, hath ordained and establhlved. that the said charters and statutes be held and put in execution occonling to the said Petition; which is, that no arrest should be mode contrary to the statutes, by special command." This explains the matter fully, and is of a» great force as if it were printed; tor the Purl. Roll is the true warrant of an act, and many are omitted out of the books that are «xunit. The 36 Ed. 3. Rot. Parl. Num. 30. explains it further; for there the petition is, " Whereas it is contained in the Grand Charter, and other Statutes, that none be taken or imprisoned by special command, without indictment, or.other due process to be made by law; yet oftentimes it hath been and still is, that many are hindered, taken and imprisoned without indictment, or other process to he made by the law, upon them, as well of things done out of the forest of the king, as for other things:that it would therefore please our said lord to command those to be delivered who are taken by special command, against the form ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- eritance. The greatest inheritance a man hath, is the liberty of his person, for all others are necessary and subservient to it. If then the house of commons have invaded that fundamental liberty of our persons, which by Magna Charta, and several other statutes, as well as the most ancient customs and laws of this land we are intituled to, this will inform us how far the powers exercised by them have destroyed our legal rights. Magna Charta says, * That no freeman shall be taken or imprisoned but by the judgment of his peers, or the law of the landbut it is certain, that men imprisoned by them underwent no judgment of their peers, were not committed by legal process, or by any law that we know in this land. I know it wiil be said, that by the words of Magna Charta wre are to understand not legal process, but the law of the land generally, and that the words extend to all the laws in the realm. Since then there are laws and customs in parliament, and by those customs imprisonment is allowed, it will be said in favour of the house of commons, that they in committing people, do not necessarily destroy that right which wc have by Magua Charta. — It is true, there are rules and customs in parliament, and by those customs they have a power to imprison:but that is a power which extends to their own members; such a power is necessary within their society because without it it would he impossible to keep the members of it to such rules and orders as must necessarily be observed by so great a body of men, engaged in so weighty and important business. Confinement here is no violation of the right uien have to the liberty of their persons by Magna Charta; that right they all give up, and submit to the rules of the h ouse, when they make themselves members of it. It must be confessed, that this power has been extended farther to persons who are not members, as in cases of breach of privilege, and contempt. I shall not here take notice of the rise of this power, and how great a grievance the exercise of it has been to the people of this land:but must observe, that if a liberty has been taken of confining those who offered violence to members in their own persons, or in their servants or estates, because such molestations, if allowed, might give them too great disturbance, and ruin the business of the public; yet it must not from hence be inferred that the house of commons has an absolute or unlimited power to imprison whom, and for what cause they please. If there are some confinements ordered by that house, which are not, it is sure there may be some Subject's Right of Petitioning. [ccvi Which are repugnant to Magna Charta; otherwise Magna Charta, and all the other actswhich designed to secure ouv liberties from the invasions of our kings, whose subjects we are, and to whom we owe allegiance, have left us exposed to the arbitrary will of our fellow-commoners, who (thanks be to God) have yet no such rule or dominion over us. Whether they have invaded our rights con#ary to Magna Charta, and in such instances as are a subversion of our constitution, will be evident to us, if we look over the catalogue of their prisoners, and examine the cause of their commitment. The five Kentish gentlemen, whose case I am now considering, were imprisoned for a fact no more prohibited by the laws of the land, than praying for the king, or that God would direct the consultations of the parlia-to the advancement of the safety, honour, and welfare of our sovereign and his kingdoms. It would be too tedious to descend to particulars: of the great number which might here be taken notice of, as pertinent to my purpose. 1 shall mention only two, Mr. Paschal and Mr. Whit-acre. The former was sent to the Tower, and kept there to the end of the sessions, for not giving in his accounts after the manner prescribed by the commissioners of accounts, pursuant to an act of parliament. The latter was committed, and continued likewise in his confinement till the end of the session, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- titular king of poor and contemptible slaves. 3. Some may account this an invasion of the rights and liberties of the kingdom, and such a one perhaps as destroys freedom, and introduces downright slavery. It may be worth Englishmen's while to consider, whether they can form to themselves any other notion of a state of freedom and slavery, than that in the former, men are Niyerned by laws made by their representative and arc liable to no punishments but what are prescribed by the laws of that state; and in the latter, that they have no certain rule to walk by, but are subject to the mere will of one or more who claim a power and dominion over them. If they find these notions true, they will do well to consider again, whether they can avoid making this inference, that they who assume a power to punish a people who live under the direction of the laws, without a rule or law, destroy the rights and liberties of the people, take away their freedom, and reduce them to a perfect state of slavery. Against what I have here said it is, I know, generally objected, that justices of the peace, judges, and others, are allowed to imprison freemen without being impeached of destroying that liberty which they enjoy by Magna Ciiurta, and the common law of this land:Why then these outcries against the honourable house of commons? The answer is very plain and easy: The former are officers appointed by the king, who is invested w ith the whole executive power, to preserve the peace of the kingdom; and the latter arc commissioned to do the same, and to preside in his conns, to administer justice to his subjects, which it is impossible for them to do without having a power givtu them Jura Populi Anglicani: or [ccviii to confine evil and rebellious subjects. The lower house of parliament is no court, has no need of such a power, being called by the king to assist him with their council in affairs of the greatest moment and weight, to bear a part in the legislature, and to represent the grievances of the nation, and desire to have them redressed; but not to redress them themselves, by taking upon them to punish offenders. If judges, or justices of the peace, or others intrusted with this power, exceed their commission, and are oppressive and injurious to the subject, there is a superior jurisdiction to appeal to for satisfaction, and laws to determine whether injury has been done or no:But if a bouse of commons will punish thus without law, there is no authority or power on earth, from which relief may be had by appeal, which in our constitution is a very good reason against their having such a power; for the lord chief justice Hussey tells us, that sir John Markham told Edward 4. that he could not arrest a man, either tor treason or felony, as a subject might, because that if the king did wrong, the party could not have his action against him. It may be farther urged, that as judges having a power to settle and determine property, is a reason why they should have a power to imprison, because the one is impracticable without the other: So the house of commons not having a power to determine concerning property, is a reason why they should not have a power to imprison. Cui non commit non majus commit, is a maxim among the logicians, and is a good argument in the present case. If the house of commons have no power over our goods, then fortion not over our persons to imprison them, because they are much more valuable than either goods or lands. This Christ himself declares, when he tells ua, that the body is more than raiment, where by raiment the Canonists understand all outward things whatsoever. Our law's also make this clear, and give the preference to the body. It is a rule in law ', that Corporalis injuria non -cipit estimutimem e futuro:so as if’ the question be not for a wrong to the person, the law will not compel him to sustain it, and afterwards accept a remedy; for the law holds no damage a sufficient reconipeuce for a wrong which is corporal. There are cases in law that prove this rule. 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Tyrannic slavery did I say? Some may.call it so, when in a free state, where I he whole legislative only has a power to set down what punishment shall be inflicted on the several transgressions that are committed, a part of it assumes a power to inflict one of the severest punishments; when a few who are chosen to be trustees and guardians of the people’s liberties, bring the people under their absolute power, and compel them to that which is against the ri^bt of their freedom. To be free from such force is the only security men have of their preservation, and reason bids them to look on those as enemies to their preservation, who would take away that freedom which is the fence to it; and so conclude that they have a will and design to take awny every thing else, since that freedom is the foundation of all the rest. From what I have here delivered concerning the power of imprisoning in the lower house, it is evident, I think, that if petitioning, as the Kentish gentlemen did, had been on illegal act, and the punishment enjoined by the law had been imprisonment, yet it belonged not to them to inflict that punishment, but to make application (as they have always done heretofore) to have the law executed against them. l)ut if what they did was strictly agreeable to law, this will make their commitment a greater violation of the rights of the community. That it was so, will appear, when wc consider, The second thing proposed, ‘ the Subject's Right of Petitioning.’ Tins right I take to be as large and ample a one, and what will as little bear controverting, as any thing that we can think of; since it is justified by the law of nature, the practice of all stales in thd world, and is allow ed by the laws of this land. It is certain that nothing can be more agreeable to nature, and a plainer dictate of reason, than that those who apprehend themselves aggrieved be allowed a liberty to approach those by petition who know their grievances, or perhaps are the authors of them, and consequently able to redress them. When men entered first iuto society anti gave up that right which they had to secure themselves in the state of nature, it is manifest that they did it for the preservation of property, which is the end of government. This necessarily supposes, and indeed requires, that people should have property, without which they must be supposed to lose that by entering into society, which was the end for which they entered into it. If men entered into society to preserve it, and therefore are so entitled to it, that (as a very learned and ingenious author tells us*) the supreme power cannot toko from any man any part of his property without his own consent:’ can any absurdity he so eross, as to imagine that men gave up their right to pray for redress, if they thought themselves injured in their properties; * The author of Two Treatises of Government, {>. U17. [ccxii or that the supreme power may hinder them to pray fur that which they have not a right to deprive them of? Wherever therefore any go-, vernment is established, there the natural right which people had to secure what was their own, must be so far at least continued, as to allow them a liberty to petition for what they think their right, because this is a privilege which they could not give up when they entered into society. And where there has been no government but the prince’s will, even there this right has seemed so natural and agreeable to reason, that it 1ms not been denied. This might be seen in all the arbitrary governments of the world. In the Roman empire Julius Caesar, when he was in the height of his power, and made himself perpetual dictator, permitted the people to represent the hardships that were put upon them, and pray for redress. And in the reign of other princes who exercised a despotick power, whilst the regia prevailed, rescribere principi, to petition the prince, and set forth their grievances, was allowed their subjects as the natural right of mankind. If this right be natural, the people of England, who have lost as little by entering into society, as any others, must have as just and ample a claim to it as any nation in the world. That they have a right to represent their sufferings, and pray for a relaxation of them, is evident from the opinions of our sages of the law, from what our kings have permitted and declared, and what has been declared and enacted in parliament. — Our books ore very clear in this matter. My lord chief justice ilobbart tells us, That it is lawful for any subject to petition the king for redress in an bumble manner; for (says he) Access to the sovereign must not be shut up, in case of the subject’s distress.' This right was fully proved by the learned counsel at the trial of the seven bishops, and allowed by the judges. It was one of the crimes for which the Spencers were banished, that they hindered the king from receiving and answering petitions from great men and others. And one article against the lord Stafford was, that he issued out a proclamation and warrant of restraint to inhibit the king’s subjects to come to the fountain, their sovereign, to deliver their complaints of w'rongs, and oppressions. — As the sages of the law have told os, that it is our undoubted right, so have our kings in all ages permitted us by petition to inform them of our grievances. In the reign of king Edw. 2. and king Edw. 8. such petitions were frequent, and then even Ireland was allowed to represent their grievances!, and petition fora parliament. — Dr. Burnet *, the learned bishop of Salisbury, informs us, that king Henry 8, told his subjects, when iu arms against him in Yorkshire, that they ought not to have rebelled, but to * Wren ham’s Case, vet Mug. Chart. Txil. Hngon. de Spencer. t Claus. 10 E. 2. M. 28. pro communitnte Hibernia. t llist. Reformat. Fart 1. p. 231. APPENDIX, N° 'XVIII. — Jura Populi Anglicani: or, ccxiii], APPENDIX, N° XVII I. — the Subject's Right of Petitioning. [rexiv have applied themselves to him by petition. King James 1, by a proclamation published in the 11th year of his reign, begins thus: The complaints lately exhibited to us by certain Noblemen and others of our kingdom of Ireland, suggesting disorders and abuses, as well in the proceedings of the late begun parliament, as in the martial and civil government of the kingdom, we did receive with all extraordinary grace and favour/ And by another* proclamation he declares, that it was the Right of his Subjects to make their immediate Addresses 'to him by petition/ And in another f he tells his people, that ‘ his own, and the ears of his privy council did still continue open to the just complaints of his people, and that they were not confined to times and meetings in parliament, nor restrained to particular grievances/ It appears by the Lords Journals in the year 1640 that the house of lords both spiritual and temporal, nem. con. voted Thanks to those lords who petitioned the king at York to call a parliament: and that king by his Declaration, 1644, declared his royal will and pleasure, that all his loving subjects, who have any just cause to present or complain of any Grievances or Oppressions, may freely address themselves by their humble Petitions to his sacred majesty, who will graciously hear their complaints. On the 27th Oct. 1680, it was resolved in the house of commons, nem. con. 4 That it is and ever hath been the undoubted Right of the Subjects of England to Petition the king for the calling and sitting of parliaments, and redressing of grievances/ It was then likewise resolved, nem. con. 4 That to traduce such Petitioning as a violation of duty, and to represent it to his majesty as tumultuous and seditious, is to betray the liberty of the subject, and contribute to the design of subverting the antient legal constitution of this kingdom, and introducing arbitrary power J/ On the Friday following it appearing to the house upon the examination of several witnesses at the bar thereof, upon the evidence against sir Francis Withins, as well as upon his own confession, that he had presented an Address to his majesty, expressing an abhorrency to petition his majesty for the calling and sitting of parliaments; it was resolved, 4 That sir Francis Withins by promoting and presenting to his majesty an Address, expressing his said Abhorrency, hath betrayed the undoubted rights of the subjects of England. It was moreover ordered, that he should be expelled the house, and that he should receive his sentence upon his knees. This Right of the subject to petition is farther confirmed by the statute law of this land, particularly in an act made in the 13th of Charles 2, the enacting part of which I will here at large set down, because it is a plain declaration of the subject's right in the case of the * Proclam. dat. 10 July, 19 Jac. Proclam. dat. 14 Febr. 20 Jac. See vol. iv. p. 1174. Petition now under our consideration. 44 Bo it enacted, &c. That no person or persons whatsoever shall from and after the first of Aug. 1661, solicit, labour or procure the getting of hands, or other consent, of any persons above the number of 20 or more, to any peti* tion, complaint, remonstrance, declaration, or other address to the king, or both, or either houses of parliament, for alteration of matters established by law in church or«tate, unless the matter thereof have first been consented to, and ordered by three or more justices of the county, or by the major part of the grand jury of the county, or division of the county, where the same shall arise, at their public assizes or general quarter sessions: or if arising in London, by the lord mayor, aldermen, or commons in common-council assembled:and that no person or persons whatsoever shall repair to his majesty, or both, or either houses of parliament, upon pretence of presenting, or delivering any petition, complaint, remonstrance, or declaration, or other addrrsses, accompanied with excessive numbers of people, not at any one time above the number often persons, upon pain of incurring a penalty not exceeding the sum of 100/. in money, and three months imprisonment. Provided always, that this Act, or any thing therein contained, shall not be construed to extend to debar or hinder any person or persons, notexoeeding the number of ten aforesaid, to present any public or private grievance or complaint to any member or members of parliament, after his election, and during the continuance of the parliament, or to the king’s majesty, for any remedy to be thereunto had/ ’ Concerning this statute we may observe four tilings: 1. That it allows, as Mr. serjeant Levins observed in the Trial of the seven bishops, and we are taught by several other good authorities f, that by the law of the land before, it wns the settled and undoubted right of the subjects of England, to apply themselves to the king, or either, or both houses of parliament, by petition, to have their grievances redressed. 2. That where it limits this power of the subject, and requires that the petition shall he consented to, and ordered by three or more justices of the county, or by the major part of the grand jury of the county, or division of the county where the same matter shall arise, or by the lord mayor, aldermen, or commons in common council assembled, if it ame in London; it is only in a particular case where the address is for alteration of matters established by law in church or state. 3. That even in this cose the concurrence of those persons is not required, unless it be where there are more than twenty hands to the petition. 4. That the act extends not to grievances or complaints either public or private, but that they may be presented to the king or parlia- * Trials of the Bishops, p. 121. f Vid. the Resolutions of the Law. Coke Jurisdiction of Courts. i cmv] APPENDIX, N° XVIII. — , nient, without any of those previous formalities, provided that the petition or address be not presented by moie iIi.mi ten. Having mentioned this Act, which (though made to limit and restrain the subject, and curtail his natural right of petitioning) is a lull Declaration of the people’s right to apply themselves to the king or parliament by Petition, lor the redress of their grievances, and for obtaining suckthings as they apprehend necessary or beneficial to the safety or well-being of the nation, ’ 1 need not urge any other authorities, nor take notice even of that act passed since the Revolution, wherein the rights of the people are contained, and that of petitioning is declared to he one. It is evident to any reader of the most ordinary capacity, that the Kentish Petition is warranted by the law of the land, and so plainly within the letter of that act, that ‘ those men are forced to acknowledge it, who taken great deal of pains to justify all the proceedings of the house of commons. Was it not then illegal, and u notoiions hi each of the liberty of the subject, and setting up a dispensing power in the house of commons, to imprison men who were not their memhcis, by no proceedings hut a vote of the house, and to continue them in custody die? A late pamphleteer tells u>, that to sav this is done l»v a single vote without other proceedings, is mere babbling and nonsense; for imprisonment is the first step in Older to future proceedings, tuid practised by every single magistrate. What doe9 this scribbler mean ? Were not those petitioners imprisoned by a vole of the house without. any other proceedings ? Was there any indictment or legal process to try whether they were guilty ol any trespass against the law? lor what reason does he tell us that imprisonment is the fiiM step in order to future punishment ? Would he thereby insinuate that their crime was such as might he further punished hv law ? Their judges in St. Stephen's chapel knew very well it could not. If it could, why were they not proceeded against ? Why were they kept in prison till the end of the session ? It they could not, why should they he imprisoned at all, since it could he in order to no future proceedings? But he tells us that this is practised by every magistrate. It is true; they imprison, but it isio keep the peace, and in order to future punishment; and wfiat they do is allowed and warranted by the law of the land. From what 1 have already said in this discourse, it will appear how ah-urd it would he to make this an argument, for the commons having such a power as ibev have used in imprisoning those gentlemen. The design of this pamphleteer is to throw all the dirt lie can on the late ministry, to bring them under the odium of the nation, a w' nk which the Jacobites the French fmrty, and Papists of Iv giund arc now, and lave her n a great while veiv intent upon, and to recoimm ml the proceedings of the house * England's Enemies exposed, and its true Fronds and Patriot defended. Jura Populi Anghcani: [ccxvi of commons, and the present ministry to t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Right of the Subject ['right of the subject']; Right of the Subject ['right of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o make this remark upon it, that this very rensure, and the severe treatment of the petitioners, shew us i acxviij APPENDIX, N° XVIII. — Ihc Subject’s [ccxviii plainly into what hands we are fallen. We remember very well when it was that sir Edw. Seymour, then a privy counsellor, and some others now in power, learned the trick of giving hard names to petitions. What I here hint at I will endeavour to represent in the shortest view I can, because the matter will be pertinent to the subject I am treating of, and will give true Englishmen an opportunity of making some reflections, which will be useful to us in the present circumstances of our affairs. We cannot forget what great concern the commons of England above twenty years since shewed for the Protestant religion; that their seal to preserve it was seen in four parliaments which were dissolved in a little more than the space of two years, by reason of their warmth in prosecuting popish conspirators, and labouring to exclude the duke of York, whose succession to the crown raised the hopes of Papists, and gave birth to all their plots. The first was the Long Parliament, which consisted of members so devoted to the crown, that they would have gratified it in any demand whatsoever, had not the measures taken to destroy Holland, the great friendship contracted with France, by the mediation of the duke of York, and the growth of popery, soured their tempers, and given their inclinations quite another bias. After their prorogation on the 28th of December, 1678, which was soon followed by a dissolution, the next parliament which begun at Westminster on the 6th of March, 1678-9, pursued the same measures to secure the religion and laws of England, and were for that reason prorogued on the 26th of May following. — The people of England alarmed at this, and growing into greater fea^s of the conspiracy which the parliament endeavoured to prevent, sent petitions to the king from several places, wherein they represented the grievances t>f the nation, and prayed for the sitting of the parliament to redress them. I shall take notice of the stile of one for all, viz. that of the city of London, wherein they set forth that there is 4 a most damnable and hellish Popish plot, branched forth into the most horrid villanies, against his majesty’s most sacred person, the Protestant religion, and the well es’ablished government of his realm, for which several of the principal conspirators stand impeached by parliament. Therefore in such a time when his majesty’s royal person, as also the Protestant religion, and the government of the nation, are in most imminent danger, they most humbly and earnestly pray that the parliament which is prorogued until the 26th of January may then sir, to try the offenders, and to redress all the most important Grievances, no otherwise to he redressed.’ This Petition, which was a roll of aliove 100 yards in length, was presented by sir Gilbert Gerrard, and eight other gentlemen of good note. They all failed of the desired effect, for the parliament was dissolved, and none other sat till October following. The men now in power have nor, it seems, forgotten how they resented those Petitions at that time. Their measures then are the very precedents which they copy alter now. Though it was then the subject's right to petition, as 1 have shewn it is now; though the petitioners took care to keep within the bounds of the law, yet a proclamation issued out on the 12th of Dec. 1679, to prohibit such illegal and tumuitu-ous petitioning, as tending to sedition and rebel* lion. Besides, care was taken to prevail upon their friends to procure counter-addresses, wherein the subscribers express their abhorrence of petitioning. — These measures that were taken to run down this right of the subject, and to subvert the constitution of parliament, together with the displeasure conceived against some men of great posts in the law, and figure in the civil state, for acting illegally, and giving pernicious counsel, as the commons were pleased to term it, to his majesty, occasioned very warm votes and resolutions in the next parliament, which, after many prorogations *, sat on the 21st of Oct. 1680, and continued sitting to the 10th of Jan. following.- — Within six days after their meeting, viz. Oct. 27th, immediately after they had agreed upon an Address to his majesty, wherein they expressed their Resolution to pursue with a strict and impartial enquiry the execrable Popish Plot, ’ they proceeded to Votes about Petitions. Then, ns I observed before, it was Resolved nem. con. 4 That it is, and ever hath been, the undoubted right of the subjects of England, to petit ion the king for the calling and sitting of parliaments and redressing grievances/ Resolved, 4 That to traduce such petitioning as a violation of duty, and; to represent it to his majesty as tumultuous and seditious, is to betray the liberty of the subject, and contributes to the design of subverting the ancient legal constitutions of this kingdom, and introducing arbitrary power/ — Ordered, 4 That a committee be appointed to inquire of all such persons as have offended against these rights of the subjects/ The next day, Oct. 28, sir Francis Wythens, as I observed before, being found guilty in this particular, they voted him ‘ a betrayer of the undoubted rights of the subjects of England/ and ordered him to be expelled the house. The city of London, having petitioned the house against sir George Jefferys their Recorder, and it being referred to a committee, they passed this vote on 13th of November following: Resolved, That this committee is of opinion, that by the evidence given to this committee, it does appear that sir George Jeffervs, recorder of the city of London, by traducing and ob- * The former parliament being dissolved, writs were issued forth for another to sit at Westminster the 17th day of December, 1679, from thence prorogued to the 26th of January, from thence to the 13th of April, thence to the 17th of May, thence to the 1st of July, thence to the 22d of the same, thence to the 23d of August, thence to the 21st ot October. tcxixl APPENDIX, N° XVIII. — Anglicani [ccxx structing petitioning for the sitting of this parliament, hath betrayed the rights of the subject.’ To which the house agreed, and it was ordered, I That an humble address be made to his majesty to remove him out of all public offices.’ They further ordered likewise, that the committee should inquire into all such persons as had been advising or promoting of the late Proclamation, stiled ‘ a Proclamation against tumultuous petitioning.’ The grand juries of the counties of Somerset and Devon having expressed their detestation of such petitioning, the house on the 19th of November, ordered that the two foremen of the said juries, and two others, should be sent for in custody of the serjeant at arms to answer for breach of privilege, as ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Right of the Subject ['right of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t, they had reason 1 confess to think it a jeer, and at the same time they ought to confess that it was vvhat they deserved. It is most certain that the design of the gentlemen w ho signed that Petition, was to serve their country by it, which they did effectually:the methods then that they made use of must be such as they thought properest for that end, wherefore tiie goodness and sincerity of their intentions must silence every thing that can he said against: their way of expressing themselves. The censure of the commons is very severe, they tell us the Petition is ‘ scandalous, insolent, seditious, tending to destroy the constitution of parliament, and subvert the established government of this realm.' By the harshness of the expressions, a mini would think that this petition were an address to a king, or a remonstrance that charged him with a felonious conspiracy, or making a treaty in its own nature unjust. How cun it be scandalous or insolent for so considerable a branch in the English nation to present an humble Petition to their delegates, and prnv theiruttornies(as members were formerly called) to take care of the business they entrusted them with ? How can it be seditious to siiew an extraordinary and unparalleled zeal for the king, to pray that he may be enabled to assist his allies, and that God may long continue his propitious and unblemished reign over us ?' how can it tend to destroy the constitution of parliament, and subvert the established government of this realm, to pray to have those things done, which are absolutely necessary to prevent our falling into the hands of those enemies who will certainly destroy the constitution of parliament, and subvert the established government of this realm? The last Westminster parliament in the reign of Charles 2, resolved, 27th of Oct. 1680, nem. con. (as I observed before) That to traduce petitioning as a violation of duty, and to represent it to Ins majesty as tumultuous and seditious, is to be- ' tray the liberty of the subject, and contributes to the design of subverting the ancient legal constitution of this kingdom, and introducing arbitrary power.’ This parliament resolves, that the Kentish Petition tends to destroy the constitution of parliaments, and to subvert the established government of this realm. It is very strange that to traduce petitioning, and to petition should both tend to subvert the constitution. If it be the undoubted right of the subject to petition, it will be very easy to determine which of the two resolutions is rightest; and if we compare die former inclinations of a party with their late proceedings, it will be evident to us, how the last resolution happens to be w rong. But it is said, that then* is something particular in the petition which justifies this resolution; the petition directs the house of commons, and tells them what they shall do; this, they say, it insolent, and ‘ tends to destroy the constitution of parliament, and to subvert the established P rcxxvii] APPENDIX, N° XVIII. — Jura Populi Anglican!: or [ccxxriii government of this realm.’ Very strange ! can any man, or body of men, oiler a> petition to others, * that is not liable to the same censure ? Does not their petitioning plainly say, that they think themselves aggrieved ? Does not their prayer direct those to whom they address, what thej^ are to do? But how this petition of the grand jury, justices of the peace, and freeholders of tire county of Kent, can be said to * tend to destroy the constitution of parliament, and to subvert the established government of this realm, ’ is to me very dilriculc to conceive. Had this indeed, which is an humble petition, carried authority and power in it; had they pretended to a right to command the house of commons to do what they would have them, i cannot see how evtn such an assuming address as this could bring onr constitution into any great hazard. Should the whole freeholders of the county ol Kent join unanimously in such an address, yet would the power and authority of the representatives of the freemen of England, and the constitution of parliament, rest very secure in the judgment of the rest of the people, who would never justify such an usurped authority. An usurped authority I call it, and must subscribe to that, as what I take to he very moderate and just, which colonel Algernoon Sidney says in that discourse which cost him his life; * * 1 believe, ’ says he* ‘ that the powers of every count y, city and borough of England, are regulated by the general law to which they have all consented, and by which they are all made members of one political body — Among us every county does not make a distinct body, having in itself a sovereign power, but is a member of that groat body which comprehends the whole nation. It is not therefore for Kent or Sussex, Lewis or Maidstone, but for the whole nation that the members chosen in those places are sent to serve in parliament: And though it he lit for them as friends and neighbours (so far as may be) to harken to the opinions of the electors for the information of their judgments; and to the end that what they shall say may he of more weight, when every one is known not to speak hi* own thoughts only, but those of a great number of men; yet they are not strictly and properly obliged to give account of their actions to any, unless the whole body of the nation for which they serve, and who are equally concerned in their resolutions, could be assembled. This being impracticable, the only punishment to which they are subject, if they betray their trust, is scorn, infamy, hatred, and an assu-ranee of being rejected when they shall again seek the same honour.’ But though a part of the freeholders of England cannot impose their commands on the representatives of the whole, yet may they represent any private or public grievance; nor can 1 see how the doing this can tend to destroy the constitution of parlia- * Discourses concerning Government, sect. 44. p. L>1. ment. The meaning of those who tell us that it does, .must be this, that some people’s com- i plaining in behalf of the public, may probably influence others, and thus occasion petitions from all parts of the kingdom. What if it should do so ? What if far the greater part of the freemen and freeholders ol England should send petitions, and represent public grievances; how can this tend to destroy the constitution of parliament ? If there be any law which forbids the people to address, or give any instructions to their delegates, the doing so must be owned to be against law; but it is not a trespass, which (to speak in the phrase of a certain patriot) can pull up our constitution by the roots. But we are told, that by the constitution of our parliament, the members are led to the freedom of their own debates, and are to act without controul; they therefore who take upon them to intermeddle in their business, invade that freedom, and consequently our constitution. They who tell us that the representatives of the freemen of England have such a freedom as this, and are to act without controul, cannot sure mean that they have delegated their who la power to them, so that it is free for them to do whatever they please, without any regard to the inclinations or interest of those who employ them. It is not to be supposed that he who takes what servant he pleases, is obliged to suffer him to do what lie pleases. The knights, citizens and burgesses, sent by the people of England to serve in parliament, have a trust reposed in them; which if they should manifestly betray, the people, in whom the power is more perfectly and fully than in their delegates, must have a right to help and preserve tliciu-selves. Were not this so, the condition of those who act by delegates would be worse, and their freedom less than that of other states: which I think is not so in the reckoning of < mankind. — The Achaians, Etolians, Latins, Sammies and Tuscans, formerly did, as now the United Provinces of the Netherlands, the Swit-sers and Gilsons do, transact all things relating to their associations by delegates. The Athenians, Carthaginians, and Romans kept, as the Venetians, Genoeses and Lucchcses do now, the power in their own hands. T hese all, as the above named honourable author observes, were equally free. But it would, I think, be very improper to ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v5.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hat the commons and freemen might consider what they thought convenient to have done, and that they might clmse proper delegates, and direct them as they thought fit. This X take to be the reason why ‘ it was always the custom at the meeting to declare the cause of parliament, which in ancient time, ’ says || he, * was shewed in the chamber de or St. Edward’s chamber: that the persous elected being more fully informed of the business to be transacted by them, might be able to give their respective countries timely information of it, in order to receive their directions therein. In this opinion we may be confirmed by w hat that great sage of the law tells us in another place. When any new device is proposed on the king’s behalf, ’ says § he, the commons may answer, * Vida de Carlos 5° de Sandoval. t Hist. Thuan. \ 2d Instit. fol. 9, 10. || 3d Instit. fol. 8. § 2d limit, fob 14. That tendered the king’s estate, and they are ready to aid the same, only in this new device they dare not agree without conference with their countries.’ — Since then in our constitution the delegates of the people have reckoned that they had a trust reposed in them by those whom they represented, and that (hoy were obliged to make their will the rule of their actions; it will be very hard to conceive how it can tend to destroy this constitution, to pray them to have a regard to the voice of the people. If they faithfully discharge the trust reposed in them by the country, it will he impossible at any time to procure a petition signed by such a number of gentlemen as those of the county of Kent, which may any way seem to arraign their proceedings; but if their management bring them under the suspicion of the nation, the people who have a right to preserve themselves, must he allowed a liberty to let them know, in civil and respectful terms, what is the voice of the people, and what they think the necessities of the public. In such a case it is impossible for all to represent the public grievances together; sOme therefore must begin, and they who address first, when there is a good reason for it, deserve the thanks of the whole. It was impossible that such a considerable body of gentlemen as the Kentish Petitioners, should conspire together to affront the house of commons; they knew what they did was dune in the eyes and face of the nation, that such an act of folly and madnes’S must bring them into (he lowest degree of contempt with the people of England. They thought therefore what they did was a duty which they owed their country in that great and nice juncture; whether it was su or no, will appear from The third and last member of this Discourse, -which is to shew what reasons those gentlemen had to petition. — It was notorious to them, and all the world, that our affairs were at that time in a very dangerous and melancholy posture.+ They knew that France has a long time aimed at the universal monarchy: that as she has maxims in her government which are very well calculated for such great designs; so by her carrying on a ten years war, against the powerful states confederated against her, they saw that she has force to support her in those enterprises. If her power was formidable when she marched out only in her own strength, it must be very terrible to see her strengthened with the union of no less a power, than that which two ages before grasped likewise at the empire of the universe. It is true indeed, those dominions were not bequeathed to her; but being giv en to one of the house of Bourbon, who must Irre under the guardianship, lie protected by the power, and governed by the counsels of France, she must necessarily and of course have the same command over their wealth and force that she had over her own. This was an early effect of the Spaniard’s will:for though in the beginning the French puny among us endeavoured to make us be- ccxxxi] APPENDIX, N° XVIII, lieve, that France would be in no better con- j dition thaq it was before, because the d ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ept their admiral, who hit the same passage by which vice-admiral Hopson had entered before. Hopson, in the mean time, being boarded by a fire-ship, was in great danger of being burnt, hud not the fireship been blown up too soon; notwithstanding which, he received considerable damage in his rigging, and many of his men, during the first consternation, threw themselves overboard, in hopes to save themselves, but were most of them drowned, whilst the rest behaved so well as to preserve the ship. The French admiral seeing the boom cm to pieces, the platform and castle in the enemy’s hands, the Bourbon taken, and the \shole confederate- squadron ready to fall in among them, ordered his own ship to be sew on fire; and his example being follower! by all the rest, afforded a most dreadful spectacle to the Spaniards as well as to the French. Whilst they were thus busied in the destruction of their own fleet, the English were as carefu in preserving it, not without some success; several, as well of the men of war as of the galleous, being taken, four by the English, and five by the Dutch; but the rest were burnt, with seven French men of war. What made this victory the more considerable, was its being gained with inconsiderable loss; there being not above forty men killed, and ten wounded, of the landmen in this action, and very few of the seamen, except those that were drowned of vice-admiral Hopson’s ship. As to the cargo aboard this fleet, which was computed at twenty millions of pieces of eight in gold and silver, hesides merchandizes, about fourteen millions of it were tnken out before by the enemy; the rest was eiiher taken by the English or Dutch, or left in the galleons, that were sunk or burnt. The goods were valued at twenty millions of pieces of eight more, of which one fourth part only was saved by the enemy, near two fourths destroyed, and the rest taken by the confederates, besides a great quantity of plate, and other rich commodities, concealed for the use of private persons in the galleons, and a great deal of other plate belonging to the French officers found at Rodondela, of which the duke of Ormond took possession the next morning, and in which much other plunder was found. The French seamen and soldiers escaped, for the English, having no horse, could not pursue them. The Spaniards ap- 39] PARL. HISTORY, I Anne, 1701. — List House of [40 peared at some distance in a great body, but they did not offer to enter into any action with the duke of Ormond:And it appeared, that the resentment of that proud nation, which was now governed by French counsels, was so high, that they would not put themselves in any danger, or to cny trouble, even to save their own fleet, when it was in such hands. " After this great success, it came under consultation, whether it was not adviscable to leave o good squadron of ships w ith the land-forces, to winter at Vigo, since the neighbourhood of Portugal could supply them with provisions and all otiier necessaries, and this might encourage that king to declare himself, when there was such a force and lleet lying so near him; and it might likewise encourage such Spaniards as favoured the emperor, to declare themselves, when they saw a safe place of retreat, and a force to protect them. Upon these considerations, the duke of Ormond offered to stay, if sir George llooke would have conseuted; but he excused it, alledging, that he had sent home the victuallers with the stores, and therefore could not spare what was necessary for such as should Stay there. And indeed he had so ordered the matter, that he coald not stay long enough to try whether they could raise and search the men of war and galleons that were sunk; and he was obliged to make all possible haste home, for, if the wind had turned to the east, which •was usual in that season, a great part of the chips crews must have perished with hunger. " On the 16th of October, sir Cloudesly Shovel having joined the confederate fleet with iw-enty-nioe sail, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- eseech your majesty, that you will be pleased to insist upon it with the States-general, that there be an immediate stop of all posts, and of all letters, bills, and ail other correspondence, trade and commerce with France and Spain, which your Commons •re humbly of opinion is so absolutely necessary for carrying on the just and necessary war, wherein your majesty is engaged, to the interrupting the trade of your enemies, and reducing them to the greatest streights; that your Commons do humbly desire, that Eoglaud may not be charged with the pay of such additional troops, but from the day when such stop shall be made by the States general." The Queen’s Ansuer.] To this Address of the Commons, her majesty was pleased to make the following Answer; " Gentlemen; It is with great satisfaction, that I receive this Address, which enables me to join with the States general, in augmenting our forces, according to their desire. 1 make no doubt, but the condition, you mention, will be approved, since it is absolutely necessary for the good of the whole alliance; and I shall this night send directions to my minister in Hollaud, to concur with the Statos-general in providing the troops accordingly." Narrative of the Commissioners for taking the Public Accounts, in relation to the Accounts of the Earl of Ranelagh.] The report of the Commissioners appointed to take the Public Accounts, was a business that took up much time this Session. They began with the Earl of Ranelagh as Paymaster-general of the Army, and drew up the following Narrative or Report of their Proceedings; which Mr. Bromley presented to the House of Commons on the 11th of November, viz. 11 When your commissioner* entered upon the execution of the trust, lodged in them by Act of parliament, they applied themselves, in the first place, to the examination of the general receipts and issues of the public revenue, for as long time past, as, they supposed, their commission would allow, and to the inspection of the particular management of those othces, through which the treasure of the nation is conveyed into the Exchequer; and though it is little more than seven months, since they were first constituted, and some time was necessarily spent in many previous preparations, be-fiore they could enter upon business, as well as lost afterwards by that interruption, which the calling of a new parliament occasioned, yet they will in few days be ready to make you. a report of their proceedings upon these matters. * They resolved also to enquire into the management of the receipts at the Exchequer, and the distribution of the money afterwards rot. vi. but this being ft large held, and a work of great extent, they chose chiefly to apply themselves to the two great branches, the Army, and Navy; for the sendees of which 47, 674, 089/. Is. 3Jd. Iiave been paid to the several Treasurers and Paymasters, between the 5th of November, 1688, and Michaelmas lust; of which the greatest part has not been at all accounted for. — Of this sum the earl of Knne-lagh. Paymaster of the Army, has received 19, 518, 452/. 4s. Id. Your commissioners began, as early as they could, to call upon his lordship, and the other officers concerned with tbq army, for those materials, they thought necessary, in order to the examining and stating his accounts; and being very sensible of his long experience, and great abilities, as well as of their own little practice in tilings of this nature, they endeavoured to collect such papers, and ask such plain questions, as must, if fairly complied with and punctually answered, lay all open to their view. " That your commissioners might the better judge what was proper for them to ask of his lordship, they writ to him, April the 15th, for a true copy of his commission, together with such instructions, as he had at any ume received, for the execution thereof. " May the 15th, your commissioners issued a precept to his lordship, for accounts to be exhibited, on Thursday, the 25th of June, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and navy, in regard th© merchants and tradesmen could have no ready-money lor their goods, but remote tallies upon a large discount. V And by thbie and other undue means, n very great part of all the public aids were squandered away in extravagant interest, lnrg, premiums, and in excessive rates tor stoves and provisions, which has been one of tire groat causes that hath brought so heavy a, debt upon this nation. " Rut here we ennuot, in justice, omit to acknowledge the present good management of the Treasury, whereby, for the honour of your PARL HISTORY, 1 Anne, 1703. — The Commons' Address 137J PARL. HISTORY, 1 Ann *, 1703. — concerning the Public Accounts. [I3S government, and the advantage of the whole nation, no unnecessary tallies with interest are permitted to be struck, nor mere money at any time borrowed, than the necessities of the nation do require; and care is taken to support the credit of the navy, victualling, and other public olhees; and that stores and proviMons are in ?o-id measure provided, with as great advantage to the public, as if the same were purchased with ready-money; which frugality and good management will be found to be one of the most effectual means, to make your majesty’s government easy at home, and to carry on a vigorous w, \r against the common enemy abroad. " And we humbly crave leave farther to represent to vour majesty, that though your Commons, who are always ready to support the dignity of the crown, hud amply provided all those •urns, which, according to the largest estimates bid before them, were thought necessary for the occasions of the civil-list, yet, over and above the said sums, and out of the aids given by parliament, (which by the law of England are appropiuteri, and ought to have been employed in the common profit of the whole realm') many large sums of money, during the time of such heavy taxes upon the people, have been diverted under the head of secret services, and fir salaries, bounties and pensions to private persons, which, if proper to be paid at all, ought to have been supplied out of the civil-liat; Nav, to so great a degreedid this profuse-cess extend, that several thousand pounds were paid out of public aids, to purchase great places for the late earl of Sunderland, and the present earl of Albemarle; so little could your Commons depend upon the integrity of the public officers, so little regard was had by them to those heavy taxes the people lay under, that nothing less could secure the public money from misapplications, than an express clause of appropriation; which though not at all neces--cessary for the security of the public money in general, but only to direct the application of it in some particular cases, yet whenever your Commons made no such particular appropriation, they seldom failed to misapply the public money; which has been another great cause of toe heavy debt that lies upon the nation. " And your Commons humbly crave leave farther to represent to your majesty, that the ancient and established method of accounting in your majesty’s Exchequer, hath been in manner following:thnt is to soy, the auditor of the receipt is to make out ami transmit the imprest rolls half-yearly to your majesty’s remembrancer, in order to the charging and prosecuting the nccoinptants; which heing communicated to the auditors of the imprest, they ttre to certify to the said remembrancer what acconiptant have not brought in, or prosecuted their accounts, and thereupon the remembrancer is obliged, every issuable term, to issue out process against the*n, so that the auditor of the receipt is the mam w heel that sets all the re*t a-going; and when that great orticer is de- ficient in his duty, it is not regular, nor indeetf possible, for the rest to proceed, but all proces# against accomptnnts must fie at a stand, and your majesty, and all your loyal subjects must extremtly sutler by it. And as to the clerk of the pells, he is to examine the imprest rolls, but the auditor is oblige ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- entrusted in the chief administration than those who have been the great causes of the unhappy differences among us:) this general mismanagement of the public affairs did actually spread itself over the whole kingdom, and seems to be owing (amongst other things) to a disposition of offices and places, where men were rather chosen for their inclinations to serve a party, than for their qualifications to serve the public. " And these men being conscious to themselves of the many frauds and offences committed against the public, have no other hopes to shelter ‘themselves from justice, than by taking away the reputation of those whodesire to do right to their country, by detecting their iniquities; and being united in guilt and interest they endeaver to amuse ami impose upon those, whose posterity, we have too much reason to fear, will groan under the sad effects of the wickedness of the one, and the too great credulity of the other. M These, dread sovereign, are divers of the causes of those mischiefs your kingdom suffer-eth by the late mismanagements, and which your loyal Commons could not omit thus hum * 143] PARL. HISTORY, 1 Anne, 1703. — Slum's Speech the Close the [M4 bly to represent in all dutiful manner, without | being unfaithful to your majesty, and to the country by whom they are entrusted. " From hence your majesty will be grnciousl v pleased to take notice, that the great debt which lies upon the nation, and all the arrears which are owing to your majesty’s forces, do not arise so much from the deficiencies of the funds, as for want of care in the management, and fidelity in the application of them. " But since it hath pleased Almighty God to place your sacred majesty on the royal throne of your ancestors, we have so entire a confidence in your majesty’s goodness, that we can no longer fear to see the public revenue mismanaged or misapplied, the accounts neglected, or the forces unpaid:and we chearfully depend on your majesty’s wisdom, that all our grievances, by your grace and favour, will in due time be redressed and removed, by punishing those who have been the causes of them, and by entrusting none in the administration of the public affairs, who, for their own private advantage, have manifestly contributed to the calamity of their country. " This (most gracious sovereign) will be the only effectual incans to prevent the like mismanagement for the future; and thereby to make your majesty’s reign happy at home and prosperous abroad. " This will he the best means to enable and encourage your dutiful Commons to raise those supplies which shall he necessary to support your majesty against all your enemies. "Thus we humbly crave leave, upon this occasion, to repeat our assurances to your majesty, that we will always stand by and assist your majesty to the utmost of our power, in preserving the established government both in church and state, maintaining the ancient glory of the English nation, and defending the liberties of Europe against the bouudless ambition of France." The Queen's Ansner.] To this address her majesty made answer: " Gentlemen, the repetition of these assurances you give me in this address, of your zeal for my service, and the good of the kingdom, is very acceptable to me. I shall consider the several particulars of it, and always have great regard to the representations of the hous<$ of commons, and the true interest of England." Several Bills moved this Session, but not nished.] Several bills had been moved this session (some of which passed the Commons) but were not finished. On the 23d of December, sir Edward Seymour moved for leave to brir^ in a bill 1 to resume all the grants made * in king William’s reign, and applying them to * the use of the public.’ This was carried byv w majority of 100 against 70, though the bill was afterwards dropped by the Commons themselves. At the same time it was moved by Mr. Walpole, That all the Grants, made in the * reign oi the late king Jamss, should also be < resumed.’ But this by the same Commons j was pas ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- aid Letters shall be brought to this House, as soon as may be. ’ Nov. 18, 1(578. Oidered, That Edward Coleman, now a prisoner in Newgate for treason, be brought by the keeper of Newgate, before the Lords Committees to peruse letters and papers, to morrow at nine of the clock in the forenoon; and that the duke of Monmouth be desired to send a sufficient guard of soldiers, to assist the keeper of Newgate, in the service of bringing and returning Edward Coleman. Ordered, That the Lords, with white staves, VO!» VI. do humbly desire his majtsry, that his majesty will please to give Order, that the papers of Mr. Goodwin, now in the hands of the clerks of the Council, may be brought before the Lords Committees appointed to consider of, and prepare the evidences for the trial of Mr., Coleman. Nov. 23, 1678. Ordered, That the serjeant at arms attending this House, his deputy, or deputies, do forthwith repair to Stratford upon Avon in Warwickshire, and bring thence the body of Mr. John Gerard, supposed to he a priest, and one other person mentioned, but not named, (in a letter dated there the 20lh of November) and subscribed Simon Cale, nnvor, John Wolmer; in which it is recited, thru they were in custody there, for refusing the oath of allegiance, and bring them in safe custody to the bar of this House. Dec. 27, 1678. Ordered, That Dr. Lower and Dr. Warner, be, and are hereby appointed to visit Mr. White, alias Wlutebread, being sick near Weld house, and give this House an account to morrow morning, iu what condition of health they find him. Nov. 28, 1678. Ordered, That the clerk of his majesty’s privy council, in whose custody the depositions lately taken at the Council-board are, which concern the queen’s majesty, be, and is thereby appointed to bring the 9aid depositions before this house to morrow at nine of the clock in the forenoon. Nov. 29, 1678. The House received an account, that Dr. Lower and Dr. Warner have visited Whitebread, and they find that his former distempers have left him, and he hath now only a tertian ague; and their opinion is, that he may be removed safely upon his intermitting days:It is ordered, that the serjeant at arms attending this House, shall to morrow, attach the body of Mr. White alias Whitebread, and carry him forthwith to the prison of Newgate, there to remain in safe custody, till he shall be delivered by due course of law. Upon information given to this House, that one Daniel Maccarty, a llomish priest, is now under custody in Thctford in the county of Norfolk, It is ordered, That the serjeant at arms attending this House, his deputy or deputies, shall forthwith repair to Thetford aforesaid, and bring thence the body of the said Daniel Maccarty, in safe custody to the bar of this house. Dec. 20, 1678. Whereas Daniel Maccarty, a Romish priest, was, by Order of the 29th of November last, brought from the jail of Thetford in the county of Norfolk, by the serjeant at arms attending this House, and is now in his custody here; it is this day ordered, by the Lords spiritual and temporal, in parliament assembled, that the Lords Committees for examining persons and papers, for discovery of the horrid deeign against his majesty’s person and government, shall examine the said Daniel Maccarty:And if their lordships find, that be is not charged with any particulars relating to the said design, he is to be remitted and left to the law; but if otherwise, their lordships P 211] PARL. HISTORY, 3 Anne, 1*01.{212 me to report to the House what they find concern ug bin. Dv-c. 3, 1(378. Upon information given to this House, by the lord Windsor, that one Edward Whitaker stands coihinitted in the city of Worcester, fur some unbecoming words by him uttered, as is certified in a letter to his lordship, signed Jo. Tyas, mayor: It is ordered, that the said Mr. Whitaker shall give bail belbre the mayor of Worcester, for las appearance before the Lords in parliament, witlun eight days next after such bill given. Dec. 13, 1 ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- to the votes of tha House of Commons. And, 4. That the deterring electors from prosecuting actions in the ordinary course of law, w hen they are deprived of their right of voting, and terrifying attornies, solicitors, counsellors, and serjeants at law, from soliciting, prosecuting and pleading in such cases, by voting their so doing to be a breach of privilege of the House of Commons, is a manifest assuming & power to controul the law, and hinder the course of justice, and subject the property of Englishmen to the arbitrary votes of the House of Commons." The Lords likewise ordered the lord-keeper to send a copy of the Case, and of their Resolutions, to all the sheriffs of England, to be communicated to all the boroughs in their counties. The Commons 5 229] PARL. HISTORY, 3 A*r., went given in the House of Lords upon a Writ of Error from the court of QueenVbench, in a Cause between Matthew Ashby and William h White, wherein the Privileges of the House t were concerned, appointed some of their mem- j, hers to search the Journals of the House of I. Lords as to their Proceedings upon the said _ Writ of Error, and to report the same to the House. They also ordered the same member* , j to inspect the Journals of the House of Lords, u as to what they had done formerly in the Case of Soame and Barnardiston; and likewise to report that matter to the House. January 18. The House ordered, that the members who were appointed to search the Journals of the House of Lords as to their Proceedings upon a Writ of Error from the court of Queen s-bench, in the cause between Ashby and White, should likewise search the several offices of the court of QueenVbench, for the Record of the Judgment, and all other Proceedings there in that Cause, and report the same to the House. were highly provoked with this, but they could not hinder it. The thing was popular, and the Lords got great credit by the Judgment given by them, which let cite people of England see, bow they might be redressed for the future, if they should meet with die injustice, the partiality, and other ill practices, that had appeared of late in elections, even beyond the examples of former Bxnee." Tiadal. 1704. — Case of Ashby and White, [JSO that end he desires the House would give him leave to state this matter, as it appeared to him, and according to what occurred upon the sudden to his metnorv, that the House might take proper methods upon this occasion. The Speaker then proceeded to give the Hou?e an account of the state of elections by custom of common law, and that the great alteration in point of election was in the beginning of Hen. 4’s time, since whose reign the returns for parliament have been made by indenture. That by the statute of 7 II. 4, there is a method prescribed of election and return, and the occasion he took to be this: H. 4 came to the succession of the crown by the deposition of It. 2, when the parliament was sitting. That parliament was continued to II. 4’s time; for though in the rolls it was culled a new parliament, and returns were made as by the sheriffs of the Counties, and also by the boroughs, a* if it was a new parliament; yet it was the same parliament, for they were the same men, "and there were too few days between one parliament and the other, to have a new election. But Henry 4, having made such au extraordinary step, lie would not leave it as a precedent to be found out. Afterwards, when times were a little more settled, in his 7th year, and that practice was necessary to he condemned, it was provided, at the great complaint of the Commons, that it should be done by indenture, that the same or like deceit should never ha put upoti the kingdom afterwards, and one part was to be kept below. This continued tor about four years, when there was another complaint of the proceeo/hgs of sheriffs (he said lie need not mention the regulation of 40s. a year, and some other tilings which are not directly to this case); and upon that there wae a pen ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- that no single petitioner will be received by the House: in answer to this, 1 say he may; and I have known petitions touching elections preferred by very few persons, and by the same reason may by one:I am sure we have no order of the House against it; and if gentlemen object, that no single petition of this nature was ever received, if they will shew the when it was ottered, I will shew them when it was received; 1 believe they cannot siiew me it was ever reused. But 1 would ask it r hey can shew me that such an election as this wai ever brought against the othcer, as in this case. I am sure they cannot, and which, in our law, is allowed a good argument, that no action lies; especially it being a case which cannot be presum'd, but may happen very often, almost in every election:And 1 believe there never wos a parliament called hut frequent occasions might have been taken for such tin action, and better fouuded than this of the Plaintiff's, who was a poor hostler, and removed from that parish by the order of two justices, as being likely to become chargeable. But it seems our ancestors reposed a confidence in their representatives to have right done them in such case: They sought not relief from common juries. And what is now done by this attempt t Why, the judges, upon their oaths say, that they have no cognizance of the cause; but notwithstanding the Lords say they have bo cognizance, and reverse that judgment; and the consequence of that is, the Lords’ will judge of this our undoubted privilege, never ’till now drawn into question; and by that lenson and law, the Lords may sit in judgment upon all other our privileges, and thereby we become depending upon them; which some without iloms, 1 hud, are willing to submit to: for that they say, whore one is dcpriied of his right lie ought to have damages, winch the House of Commons cannot give. I allow, where one is injured he shall have relief, by our law, in one place or other J but we have not one shop to cure all distempers. 1 he Queen’s-beneb relieves chiefly in matters criminal; tho Common-Fleas in civil pleas between party and party; the Exchequer in mailers of revenue; Chancery in cases of fraud; and in the Case in question, rebel may be had (as said before) in toe House of Commons, by law and usage of parliament, which all lawyers know, is a vf-ry considerable, known and approved part of the laws of Fiiglund. And though no damages are usually given heie, yet the othcer, for misbehaviour, and arbitrarily refusing vote* who had right, may be, and has been punished, by the power and authority of the house, and even at Common Law; as when an alderman is refused by the Mayor, or other person who ought to admit him, the reim dy is by Mandamus, which though it is chargeable to the person injured, yet 1 do not know any damage* are given him, otherw ise than that the party injured is admitted; winch is a relief, the alderman having what be complained for: And so the elector; his vote is allowed as good as if the constable had took it. And, by ll.e way, give me leave to observe how small a relief the new devised remedy, by damage *, is: 1 dare adirin and demonstrate, that the Hainlift’, in t! e case in question, is above 100/. out of pocket, more than the costs and damages recovered, which I take to be victoria. ' But if gentlemen say, the poor hosiler could not expend so much, I belitve so too, but if at the expence of any great man. 1 think it less justifiable, to make a tool of that poor fellow, perhaps in order to enlarge a jurisdiction. — I must confess I take the case of the elected to’ be much stronger than that of the electors; and yet, in such cases, relief at Common-Law was always denied, as in the case of sir Samuel Barnurdiston and Soame, there the Slit ritt made a double reiurn; and in the Cnse of Mr. Onslow *, a false ret uni; and the peisous injured * The Case of Denz.il Onslow, e*q. was tried at the Assiz.cs holden for Surrey on Wednesday the 20th of July, 1681, at Kingst ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Particular Man ['particular man']; Particular Man ['particular man'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e person, that this is a busiues of great moment; and I hope we shall continue to do as we have done, that is, to hear gentlemen patiently:and that we may not be guilty of any disorder, I move you for candles to be brought in." Then the question was put, and carried for candles. And they were brought in according^. Mr. Dormer, (afterwards a Judge). — "Mr. Freeman, you have now a question upon your paper, hut that which I take to be the question ip, Whether a freeholder, or a freeman, who hath a right to give his vote for his representatives in parliament, may arbitrarily and maliciously be deprived of that privilege, without any redress in any court whatsoever. — This 1 take to be the case before you, it is said to be of great consequence, and I do take it to be ol as great consequence as any thing that ever came before either house; and I don’t look upon it only to concern the jurisdiction of the Lords and Commons, but to affect every p:ut of the constitution, and the queen the head thereof, in the highest degree. For it comes to this; if the Lords have not a right to determine in this matter, which by Writ of Error is rcgulmly brought before them, we shall be turned into a state of villcnage, and the people will be deprived of chusmg their own representatives without relief, and shall not have relief by her majesty in the Court of Queen’s-b«nch, nor before her in the Court of Parliament, where, in consideration of law, she is always present, and where by our law, is the last appeal; and there will be a failure and an interruption of justice, and our constitution, in relation to ourselves, will be so far changed, that it will be impossible there should be any right representatives of the people: for, it will not be the people then that will chuse, but the officer mayaibi-trarily refuse nnd return whom he thinks tit, and the particular person will be without remedy. For, whatever gentlemen apprehend if the right of return be not controverted, which way can any particular man bring his case before you ? And what remedy shall he have, if not by action ? 1 will not say there lias not, (hut I will turn the argument, and put it upon them to shew there has; ) but I believe there never was any particular application to the committee of privileges, where the injury has been done to a particular man, which is the present case:and this matter is found by a jury that was struck, and not one man of the jury but of qualify, and approved on both sides: and I think, (hough it never came before the parliament, nor the committee of privileges, they might consider of a particular injury. — And as for the notion that hath been taken up, that where the House of Commons have a jurisdiction, there the party is in all cases without remedy in any other court; sure that is not according to truth:for in the case of a false return, there is a public injury that does not hinder the party from obtaining satisfaction ns to his particular injury; nnd if no action lies there can he no satisfaction; for this House hath not awarded damages in any case, notwithstanding the case cited, f»r that was only costs lor the man’s trouble in coming up to be examined before this House. And, if they should award damages, there is iio way of levying those damages; What writ can we i«sue out ? And if this person be without remedy a* law, he must sit down without any red.ess w li, \t — soever. — There tnav he a multitude of cases, where this House hath a jurisdiction as far aa 2G9] PARL. HISTORY, 3 Anne, 1701 Cate of Ashby and [270 concerns the public and themselves, and the party shall have his action also. If I receive a blow in this House, it is a violation of the priulege of this House, and this House can take jurisdiction of it, and censure the person that hath done the injury; but will any man say, that an action of battery will not lie at the common-law in that case i There was the Case of sir Thomas Clarges: At the time of his election there was one Roe speke words to Ids prejudice: He might certainly have complained to this House of it; you had an instance, I think, last session, of one that complained, for some such injury, against the lord bishop of Worcester, and the House took it into consideration; (which sir Thomas Clarges might have done,) but he brought his action, and recovered c ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then consider, this Home is in possession of this power, as of right, and 1 do not find the common law in possession of any such right. Then what do they offer to bring it in, hut that there would be some failure of justice? now I took it, that the Judges ar tt jusJiccre, and not/us dare:if any thing want a provision to be made for it, it must be done by the legislative power; and if the electors want it, provision must be made for them, that they shall have an action. And those gentlemen, who think that necessary, may bring in a bill to that purpose, and take the sense of the legislature upon it in a regular way. — The question before you now is, Whether the examination, hearing, and determination of all matters relating to elections, where some statutes have not particularly directed otherwise, do not belong to this House? There was a famous case of Goodwin, that was contested by the crown, and the crown pretended to sena out another writ. And there they say, that as to members of parliament, their attendance, &c. they are the sole judge: and this they laid before king James in the irst year of his rcig»; 579] PARL. HISTORY, 3 Anne, 17 0\. — Proceedings of the Commons in the [2*0 and claim it as their sole right, and the king's ' second writ was determined to be void. — | But a gentleman makes an argument, if one i should strike another in the House, what remedy ? W by there is a act made tor that case in Henry the (Hit’s time. I think now the matter will turn upon this:Say they, it is true you can try elections, and v ho are the electors; but here is one thing remains, that is, to give satisfaction. Have they any precedents for this? I believe the precedents are without; they have a power for what is necessary; nothing less than a law can give the other. — Gentlemen say, there may he a ditierence in judgment in courts below, but they are subordinate, and there lies an appeal: But in this Case, ail courts will be co-ordinate with you; and therefore if that be a grievance, nay a solecism in government, present it now. — It is said, what will your vote do ? That is pretty odd:If they would have an act of parliament, your vote must he the ground of it. — You are judges of the whole; hut say some, you cannot give t lie pecuniary satisfaction. Well, suppose S'>; but you can restore all to their right. But let me say this, if you would not set up a co-ordinutc power with you in matters of elections, and which will be too hard for you atlast, I hope it will he a warning to you, to take more care in the judging of your elections for the time to come. — if the judgment belongs to you, and you are possessed of it for so long a tract of time, that nobody can offer any tiling against it since lien. 4’s time; till gentlemen shew me some reason, why the common law should lay hold ot it, I must be of opinion, that it dors belong to you, and no Court can take cognizance of it but you, except where it is otherwise provided ibr by statute." Sir Thomas Meres. " Sir, I shall not enter into a discourse, and repeat what I remember of former times:J will say hut ibis, let others answer it better if they can. .As to the words J'also (t mulitiose, it seems one Chief-Justice said, they were words of importance, and must be proved; another Chief Justice said, they were only words of course, that is, like pepper and vinegar to a slice of roast beef: So there is one Chief Justice, that spoke last but one, against another. — As to making satisfaction, ! confess, I like very well what that gentleman said on the right hand, if thire was any precedent for it, I agree it would do very well, that this House would give damages, and we will make the best of it; hut most of these, things have spile in them, and these actions are brought with spite. Now this we can do, we can punish the officer, and there is revenge in that; and that is a sweet hit, and some satisfaction. What further occurs to me, hath been spoken by other gentlemen, better than I can do it: and I sha ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'right of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hath its weight in the legislature, is a privilege; and therefore to be deprived of it, is to be deprived not only of a service and burden, hut.of a very valuable privilege; and I believe any Englishman would think we dealt hardly by him, to deprive him of it, though we should tell him at the same time, we deprived him only of a service and burden, and not of a valuable privilege. — There is another thing occurs on this head: We have been so far from thinking the being elected, a service or harden only, that, in the nature of a repeal of those judgment of Soame and Barnardiston, by a positive law, we have given the elected double damages if he be deprived of that service. Therefore, by our own notion, and in our case, it is a privilege that ought to be recompensed even with double damages, that is to say, when it concerns ourselves. And shall ue declare it a mere service in the case of our electors, not to be recompensed even by single damages and that after the undoubted methods of the common- law have adjudged it their due; for I do not find any body doubt?, whether this man has proceeded in the legal method throughout, even in the last resort? The Lords have not judged the fact; they are bound as to the fact by the verdict, and they are unquestionably the judges of the law on a Writ of Error. And therefore, as to what lias been said that any fact of an election might come to be determined before the Lords, it is a great mistake, for they judge purely of the law on Writs of Error, as every one knows, that knows any thing of our constitution. Give me leave to say, we, upon this occasion, judge of this matter only as a matter of law, which may affect our privileges, and, though we have authority to consider what is law, as it relates to, or may intrench upon our privileges, no body that sits here can think that there lies an appeal in this place, or a second consideration of this matter after the Lords’ Judgment, as it is a point of law only, and as it regards the right of the subject. So that an objection in point of law here, to the Judgment of the Lords, will not hold otherwise than as it relates to our own privileges; for nobody will say, that we are the dernier resort in any other select. And though that is the only point that .. — Pioctcdings of the Can [^4 bungs it properly under our con.ddeiation; yet t fear we are taking from the subject, in diect, what the law hath adjudged Ins right, nod reversing a legal Judgment given in the subject's favour. There aie other arguments Hung to make up tnc weight only, as that wham compares the present to the ea»e ni a dovc-h-mie; in which case, in icgnril of the mnUiiudv of actions that would -fellow, an action will not lie for every one that is injured by die erecting of it. it is true, where a multitude are injured by one and the same lact, it shall not be punished by a multitude ofactions; but the public is to take care of it, because the injury is of a public nature; but by the same standard and know n laws of England, if one man is so rash as to commit a multitude of injuries, winch severally affect several person *, it was never said, that bo became unpunishable by the multitude of his offences, but every one injured has Ins action ngniust him. I have heard it said, nutrients, but that is spoken as to4he number of offenders, net the number of offences committed by the same man. And these injuries which consist in denying the subject to vote, when of right lie ought, will not be multiplied (as is objected) by letting the sulject know, that as they may come into parliament to punish the officer, as n public offender against t!>e constitution; so the particular person injured by being denied his vote, may also have an action for the private and pniticuliu injury done I to him only. — I would mention one thing more: they who have spoke for the other opinion, seem to take it for granted, (which I do not take to be a true way of reasoning) that because, in determining who have a right to sit here, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'right of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Right of the Subject ['right of the subject']; Private Persons ['private person']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- of parliament that the tnoHooses are mutual checksto each other and sole judges of their own privileges. — This is an excellent constitution and admirably well contrived for the common safety:but how can this constitution be preserved if the Lords can punish our officers and govern our elections? This will be the way to destroy all checks, and to make the House of Commons dependent on the Lords; and then I cannot see upon what foundation you cun be said to sit here to do any service for your country. — Others insist that this is a right that is incident to the freehold and freedom of electors; therefore as their freeholds are cognizable at common-law, so is every incident belonging to it. This argument is plausible at first sight, but io reality there is nothing in it, for though the Commons of England have submitted their private differences to arbitrators, or judges, in-dufrreotly chosen and appointed by the prince, the common parent of the people; yet they have never submitted their fundamental rights and privileges, which they hold in their public and political capacities, as a free brauch of the high court of parliament, to any but their own representatives, who are chosen and appointed by themselves. This is not a case, properly speaking, between party and party, but between the Lords and Commons; because the determination of this case brings the whole right in question, who have a privilege to judge of the qualification of electors, to give their votes in election of members to serve in parliament, whether the Lords or the Commons ? It is not now the question who hath the best right to a freehold or freedom, or to any thing that a incident to it; but whether the Commons of England shall have any freeholds or freedoms at all ? or, which is the same thing in effect, whether they should have any security for those rights or not ? For if the Lords are judges of your privileges, you can hold no right but during their pleasure. — The Lords seem to contend for the right of the subject, but I wish it be not for a power to enable themselves to judge and determine, as they Unok lit, of all our rights and liberties; for thn k the necessary consequence of allowing an elector to have a remedy in any other place but within these walls. — This is my humble opinion; and if I am mistaken, other gentlemen will set me right. This is certuiuly a matter of the highest importance to the welfare of the subject, and I doubt not but they will very well consider it before they give way to the establishing a precedent that tends to destroy the privileges of this House, or the liberties of their country, — A great tenderness is tO L.VI. [290 expressed for this poor man, whose vote has been refused:but whether he had a right to give his vote is very much questioned, and never yet determined by this House, who has the proper judicature thereof. But admitting be had a vote, whether ought to be preferred, a private intercut or the public safety? Whether will be most for the honour of this House and the interest of our electors, the care of a private person by a new-iuvemed action, neither warranted by reason, precedent or any established law; or the care of the parliament, and the constitution, on which depend the rights and liberties of all the Commons of England. - — Sir, I beg pardon for taking up so much of your time, but I must confess it seems to me, that our all depends upon a right determination of this matter; for I cannot^see any other reason why this new device is supported by the Lords, but only to render you precarious and useless." Sir Gilbert Dolben. " Mr. Freeman, I shall not trouble you very long at this time of day; I think the point in debate has been truly stated by the gentlemen who insisted on this question, Whether an action will lie for an elector, for having been refused his vote at the election of a member to serve in parliament ? A learned gentleman would have the question to be, not whether an action will lie, but whether this House has the sole right of determining that matter, and of giving remedy in it. I confess I think it is more properly stated the other way: but the thing is scarce worth a dispute, sine which way soever you turn the tables it comes to the same point, and one of the questions will in consequence be resolved by the resolution of the other. For if that question be put which is proposed by the gentleman, and carried in the affirmative, that this House has the sole right of determining this, and all other matters whatsoever that concern the right of election; then it must follow, that whoever is wronged in any such respect, cannot be redressed by action, since the right of determining in cases of this nature, is not in the courts below, but solely in this House. 1 shall not offer you any arguments to prove this sole right, many having been urged by others; hut I will consider some things (without taking up much of your time ), that have been offered as objections to it. Some gentlemen have made a distinction, in this case, between the right of electors and of the elected; and they will have it, that the courts below may decide the first, but not the last; whereas, in my poor opinion, the decision of the elector’s right must necessarily, in many cases, decide who has a right to be elected. For suppose a common case, that one of the candidates insists upon an election by a select number, and the other upon a popular election:If, in this case one of the populace be refused his vote, upon a pretence that he is not of the select number, whereupon he brings his action against the officer; will not the -event of that trial determine (in consequence) the right of PARL. HISTORY, S Anse, 1704. — Case of Ashby and White. * ‘>1] ?ARL. HISTORY, S Akn *, 1704. the candidates ? Surely it must; since if it go for the plain tiff, he for whom the plaintiff offered to vote, and who had the popular interest, will appear to have had the right of election; and so will the other candidate, if it go for the defendant. Several other cases to the same purpose might be put: So that if an ac- tion of this nature should lie, it must (a9 I apprehend) unavoidably follow, that Westminster-hall by original action, and by Writ of Error the House of Lords, will have power to determine, (at least consequentially,) who has a right to sit in this House, and who not. And how consistent such a determination will be with your undeniable right, (acknowledged on ail sides) of determining the elections of vour members, excl >sive of all other jurisdictions, I leave to gentlemen to consider. A learned person was please:! to object, that right ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ights of parliament are chiefly founded upon the nature and constitution of patliaments. Usage is indeed a corroboration, and an evidence of those rights; but the foundation of them, is our being a part of tha legislature, whereby we necessarily become invested with such rights and privileges, as enable us to acr, and to discharge our duty, in that great capacity: So that it is But so much what has been used, as what is necessary to the support of our constitution, that must be the rule and measure in determining the rights of the House of Commons. But neither has usage beon wanting in this case: For whereas the gentle- man asserts, that there is no precedent where this House has given relief to a wronged elector, (with submission,) several such precedents appear upon your books, particularly in the case of Bniibury, where four or five of the inhabitants complained, and the House gave a remedy. Ami I cannot see why, if it lias been given to four, it may not be given to one; nay, I should think if more than one have been relieved, a fortion one should be relievable. But it seems to uie, that the argument drawn from usage, goes much further than the learned gentleman intended it should:for if all right be founded noon usage, all rurht of action must be so founded; and then what becomes of this action which the gentleman has laboured to support? If usage be nothing else but the repetition of the like acts, then this action (according to the gentleman’s rule, that usage is the foundation of right,) cannot he rightful, unless there hath been a repetition of the like action. Nor can it be said, that this is the first time any such cause of action has arisen, and (hat [392 therefore it could not have been brought before; for there has scarce been a parliament called in any reign, but some or other has, without doubt, been wrongfully refused his vote: So that the cause having been frequent, it must have had the like effect ere now, in case such a wrong could have been redressed by bringing such an action. But no gentleman has pretended to say, that any action of this nature was ever brought before; and therefore we may infer from the learned gentleman’s own position, as likewise from the authority of Littleton’s text, that, since none has been brought, none can be brought. And this has been the constant opinion of the courts in Westminster* hail, the judges having, upon every occasion, where the rights of parliament have fallen under their condderation, in all times declared, that nothing of that kind is within their jurisdiction; nor can they judge of any such matter, farther than as they are empowered by particular statutes. And this was the reason why the Judgment in Barnardiston’s Case, given in the Queen’s-bench, was reversed in the Exchequer Chamber, because it was a thing purely of parliamentary cognizance; the House of Commons having the sole power of determining all matters relating to elections and returns, except in statute-cases. Nay, the court of King’s-bench had declared, they would not have proceeded in that action of Barnardiston, had it not been grounded by a precedent Judgment given in the House of Commons. But the judges in the Exchequer Chamber thought, that even the determination of the House was not a sufficient authority to the courts below, to hold plea in an action relating to the rights of parliament, though the action was grounded upon that determination; and therefore they reversed the Judgment given in that action, and (which is a mighty strong circumstance in that case) that reversal was afterwards affirmed in the House of Lords. So that it is plain, even the Lords themselves were, at that time, of the same opinion of the judges, that nothing; which concerned elections was cognizable in Westminster-hall: For otherwise they could not have af- firmed the Judgment given in the Exchequer Chamber, which was grounded entirely upon that maxim. This appears farther, by what their lordships did in the Case of Holus ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- who by the constitutions of those charters, are appointed to elect. And in all cases, where a corporation hath such a privilege, the members thereof, in their private capacity, have the benefit and enjoyment thereof, because, the corporation, as such, is not to be represented:For it is not necessary that it should have any estate, but by being a corporation, they have only a capacity to have estates. Jones 106. Hyward and Fulcher. For ns the citizens nnd freemen of a place are incorporated for the better government of those of the place, so is this privilege of having burgesses given for the advantage of the particular members thereof, whose estates are to be bouud by the acts of their representatives. And therefore the wages of citizens and Burgesses were always levied, not upon the estates or goods of the corporation, hut upon the goods and estates of the members thereof. * It appears by other instances, that it is usual and proper for corporations to have interests granted to them, which enure to the advantage of the members in their private capacities. Moore 832. Sir Thomas Waller versus Hanger. The king granted to the mayor and citizens of London, that no prisnge be paid for wines of the citizens and freemen of London. This 46 Edward 3, M. 4. dorso, &c. enures to the benefit of every citizen and freeman of London for his own wines, in which the corporation of the city hath no interest. But there is no such notion in the law of England, as a right without a remedy. The same thing appears by the Case of Waller and Spatemon, 1 Saund. 343. and by a Case of Meller and Walker. These instances make it sufficiently appear, that though the inheritance of this franchise he in the body corporate, yet it is for the benefit of the particular members thereof: And it is certainly a great advantage for the tnen or inhabitants of a place to chuse persons to represent them in parliament, who thereby will have an opportunity, and be under an obligation to represent their grievance, and advance their profit. Of this opinion have two parliaments been, as appears by two several acts, the one 34 and C5 11. 8, cap. 13, the other 25 Car. 2, cap. 9. The fi:st is an act for making knights and bur-ce«ses within the county and city of Chester, which begins in this manner, In humble wise shew to your majesty, the inhabitants of your grace’s county Palatine of Chester, that they being excluded and separated from your high court of parliament, to have any burgesses within the said Court, by reason whereof, the inhabitants hare hitherto sustained manifold losses, and damages, ns well in their lands as goods and bodit s:Therefore it was enacted, that they should have knights for the county, and citizens for the city of Chester: The other act, which constitutes knights and burgesses for the county Palatine, and city of Durham, recites, that the inhabitants thereof hitherto had not the liberty and privilege of electing and sending knights and burgesses to the High Court of Parliament. The application of these two acts is very plain; the first saith, to be excluded from sending knights and burgesses to parliament, is a damage to lands, goods, and body; tire other saith, that it is a liberty and privilege to send them. Thus the right of election is explained, and shewed to be a legal right. That of electing knights of 9hires, belonging to and inherent in the freehold. The other, of electing burgesses, belongs in some cities and towns to the real estates of the inhabitants; and in others, is vested in the corporation, for the benefit of the particular members, who are the electors; the having of which is a great benefit and advantage to the people thereof, and will prevent great loss and damage that otherwise would ensue. IL Tt follows, that in consequence of this right or privilege, the possessors thereof must have a legal remedy, to assert and maintain it. It was said, that there are many rights for which a man has no remedy by the common law, as in ca ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- r all, where is the damage to the public, if there should be a variety in the determination of the House of Commons, and the courts of Westminster? It is not impossible, in the nature of things; for the courts of law have great advantages, which the House of Commons want; they want the help of juries, and the power of giving oaths, and they ought not to be displeased with their electors, if they resort to courts provided with these powers, for asserting their right of election, especially when it is considered, that the person, whose pretensions the House of Commons approves -of, will sit there, which is all they are concern-ad in: They are the elected:and it would be I .strange, if that should entitle them to challenge the sole power of deciding the rights of their •lectors; winch is, indeed, to (huse their electors. — Proceedings of the Lords, *n the [320 It was urged os a great argument against the maintaining this action, that it had been adjudged, in the case of Mr. Onslow, in the 33d I year of king Charles 2. (second Vent. 37.) that no action did lie at common law for a false return of a member to sit in parliament; and that in the case of Barnardiston and Soarne, it was adjudged the candidate could not maintain an action against the sheritf for a double return; and if the person elected to serve iu parliament cannot maintain an action against the officer, it was urged, that the person electing, who, perhaps, is hut a cubit r, ought not to be allowed to have such un action. It was answered, that the law of England has no respect to persous: If an elector be a cobler, he is a freeman of England, and has that greut privilege belonging to him to be represented in parliament. It was remembered with what variety of opinion among the judges, that case of sir Samuel Barnardiston was determined, and what an alarm that judgment gave to the House of Commons, to such a degree, tlmt in the session of parliament 1679, a committee was appointed to enquire into it, as a grievance. And it was observed, that the great design of the act of parliament made in the seventh year of the late king (which was often mentioned in the debate of this case to other purposes) was to cure the many inconveniencies arising from that judgment, and the judgment in Mr. Onslow’s case, which only followed Barnardiston’s, and was judged upon the authority of it. But there is no resemblance between those cases and the case of an elector. In Barnardiston’s case of a double return of members, the reason on which the judgment was founded, was, that a double return was no return which the law took notice of, hut was only allowed of by the custom of parliament. When an officer, who doubts, makes a double return, he submits to the judgment of the House of Commons; and, if that House admits of such a return, as they have often done, it would be hard the law should subject a man to an action, for submitting a matter of fact, (the truth of which the officer doubts) to the determination of those who have a jurisdiction of the matter, and approve the manner of such a return. In the other case of a false return of a member, several reasons may be assigned for the judgment, which are not applicable to the case of an elector; perhaps it might be because such a return is a manifest injury to every one of the electors (though principally to the candidate) and therefore it might fall within the reason of William’s case above-mentioned, that every elector might sue him; and therefore none of them severally can maintain the action. But there is another reason very obvious, because the candidate has a proper remedy to recover his place, from which he is excluded by the false return; the right of election is cognizable in the House of Commons, there he will recover his seat in parliament, which is what the PAUL. HISTORY, 3 Akn«, 17o*. 321] PARL. HISTORY, 3 Anne, law has the principal regard to, and there is no reason he should have another remedy elsewhere. It 13 absurd to say, the ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- said, did eiery thing with hint; only iu lus Court he was never charged with any ‘ for disnrnciijg ith part of the encouragement ‘ and em ren-e of Hupping and navigation, du-‘ ring the present war; ’ was passed by the House of Lords. The Queen’s Speech at the close of the Session.] April 3. lkr majesty came to the House of Peers, and alter passing several acts made the following Speech to both Houses: " My Lords and Gentlemen; I cannot put an end to this session, w ithout returning you thanks for the willingness which you have uliexpressed to support and assist me, in continuing the present war. — And 1 must •vthank you, gentlemen of the House of C ommons, very particularly, for the great forwardness and zeal which you have shewn, both in the early dispatch of the supplies, and in making them so effectual for carrying on the puhhc expence, without any additional burthens upon the coun'ry:it shall be iny care, to improve this to the best advantage. — M y Lords and gentlemen; at the opening of this session, I did earnestly express my de-arcs of seeing you in perfect unity among yourseh'es, as the most effectual means imaginable to disappoint the ambition of our enemies, and reduce them to an honourable and lasting peace: and though this has not met with all that success which 1 wished and expected, yet, being fully convinced that nothing is so necessary to our common welfare, I am not discouraged from persisting in the same earnest desires, that .you would go down into your several countries so disposed to moderation and unity, as become* all those who are joined together in the same religion and interest. — 'Phis I tun persuaded. Will soon make you sensible that nothing, next to the blessing o! God, can so much contribute to our success abroad, and to our safety at borne." Then the Lord Keeper, by Iter majesty’s command, prorogued the parliament to Tuesday the 4th day of July next. * thing but great slowness, by which the Chancery was become one of the heaviest grievances of the nation." Timhil. * " Thus ended this vision of parliament, after much hr at and couttnioti betw ecu the two houses; and though the queen in Iter speech recommended to them union and moderation, yet those words, which find lutlieito carried sr> good a sound, that all s'des pretended to them, were now become so-pdious to indent men, that even in sermons, . ‘penally at Oxford, they were arraigned as importing somewhat that was unkind to the chunk, and that favoured dissenters. The H use of Commons had, during this session, L>s: much of their reputation, not only with fair and impartial fudges, but even with those who wtreruns? inclined to favour them. .It is foe, the body of* the fret ho I hr is I eg an to be ir-easy under the taxes, and to erv on' for a price: md m>st of* the considerable gentry of England, who h ui most to lose, seemed not to apprehend the daii- 337] PARL. HISTORY, 3 Anne, 17 Oi, — Principa Occurrences duriti" the Recess. [33$ PbJNCIFAL OCCURRENCES DURING THE Recess — Change in the Ministry — The Scottish Plot — - The Duke of Marlborough marches into Germany — The battle of tle of Hochsiet — Surrender of Landau and Traerbach — The Duke o Marlborough arrives m England — Gibraltar taken — off Malaga.] u The earl of Nottingham, " says TiodaJ, " was animated by the party to press the queen to dismiss the dukes of Somerset sad Devonshire from the cabinet council, or at least, that they might be called thither no more, lie moved it often, but, finding no inclination in the queen to comply with his motion, he carried the seals to her, and told her, that he could not serve any longer in councils, to which those lords were admitted. The queen desired him to consider better of it, but he returned next day fixed in his first resolution, to which he adhered the more steadily, because the queen had sent to the earl of Jersey for the lord chamberlain's staff, and to nr Edward Seymour for the comptroller’s. The earl of Jersey was a weak man, but crafty ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'petition of right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- arrant of commitment for breach of prnilege, was of the nature of an execution; and, since the ground of commitment was specified in the warrant, he thought it plainly appeared, that the prisoners had been guilty of no offence, and that therefore they ought to be discharged. Though Holt's judgment seemed clear and solid, yet, as he was but one against three, the majority prevailed, and the prisoners were remanded to Newgate. " Upon this Paty and Oviat, two of the prisoners, moved for a Writ of Error, to bring the matter before the Lords. This Writ was only to be obtained, by petitioning the queen, that the judgment of the court of the Queen's-bench might be brought before her majesty in parliament. The Commons were alarmed at these petitions, and resolved upon an Address to the the defendants in execution, in breach of the privilege of this House: Ordered, That the matter of the said Complaint be heard at the bar of this House upon Thursday morning next. Ordered, That the queen, setting forth the undoubted right and ‘ privilege of the Commons of England in par- iiament assembled, to commit, for breach of ‘ privilege; and that the commitments of this * House are not examinable in any other court 1 whatsoever; and that no such Writ of Error * was ever brought, nor doth any Writ of Error * lie in this case: and that as this House had expressed their duty to her majesty, in giving dispatch to all the supplies; so they had an entire confidence in her majesty's goodness and justice, that she would not give leave for the bringing any Writ of Error in this case; 4 which would tend to the overthrowing the undoubted rights and privileges of the Commons of England. ' 44 Ten judges (two only being of another mind) agreed, that, in civil matters, a petition for a Writ of Error was a petition of rigiit and not of grace. It was therefore thought a very strange thing, which might have most pernicious consequences, for a House of Commons to desire the queen, not to graut a petition of right, which was plainly a breach of law, and of her coronation oath. It was no less strange for them to take upon them to affirm, that the writ did not lie, when that was clearly the work of the judicature to declare, whether it lay or not, which was unquestionably the right of the Lords, who only could determine that. Besides, their having supplied the public occasion, was tt strange consideration to be offered to the queen, as an argument to persuade her to act against law, as if they had pretended, that they had bribed her to infringe the law, and to deny justice; since money, given for public service, was given to the country and to themselves, as properly as to the queen. Her answer to this Address was to this effect: 4 That she was much troubled to find the House of Commons of opinion, that her granting the Writs of Error, 4 mentioned in their Address, was against their privilege *, of which she would always be as tende r, as of her own prerogative: and therefore they might depend, she would not do any thing to give them any just occasion of complaint. But this matter, relating to the course '•of judicial proceedings, being of the highest * importance, she thought it necessary to weigh and consider very carefully, what might be proper for her fo do, in a thing of so great concern.' This answer was thought so cold, that no thanks were returned for it; though & well composed House of Commons would certainly have thanked her for that tender regard to law and justice. The same day the answer was reported by Mr. Secretary Hedges, the Commons proceeded to carry their resentments to greater extremities, and having continued sitting till the evening, voted, 4 That Mr. Francis Page, Mr. James Montague, Mr. Nicholas 379] PARL. HISTORY, S An * said Robert Mead do attend this House upon Thursday morning next. Nov. 24. The order of the day being read for the hearing the matter of the complaint * Leclunere, and Mr. Alexander Denton, in * pleuding upon the return of the Ha ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ge, that is not war- * ranted by the known laws and customs of parliament. * 2. That every freeman of England, who * apprehends himself to be injured, has aright * U seek redress by action at law:and that the * commencing and prosecuting an action at * common law, against any person (not en- * titled to privilege of parliament,) is no breach * of the privilege of parliament. * 3. That the House of Commons, in coro- * mining to Newgate, Daniel Horne, Henry * Basse, and John Patou, jun. John-Paty and * John Oviat, for commencing and prosecuting * an action at common-law, against the late * constables of Aylesbury, for not allowing their * Votes in election of members to serve in par- * liuuieut, upon pretence that their so doing ‘ was contrary to a declaration, a contempt of * the jurisdiction, and a breach of the privilege of * that House, have assumed to themselves alone * a legislative power, by pretending to attribute * the force of a law to their declaration, have * claimed a jurisdiction, not warranted by the * constitution, and hnve assumed a new privi- * lege, to which they can shew no title by the * law and custom of parliament: and have * thereby, as far as in them lies, subjected the * Rights of Englishmen, nnd the freedom of * their persons, to the arbitrary Votes of the * House of Commons. * 4. That every Englishman, who is impri- * soned by any authority whatsoever, has an. * undoubted right *, by his agents, or friends, to * apply for, and obtain a Writ of Habeas Cor- * pus, in order to procure his liberty by the due * course of law. * 5. That for the House of Commons to * censure, or punish any person for assisting * a prisoner to procure a Writ of Habeas Cor- * pus, or by vote, or otherwise, to deter men * from soliciting, prosecuting, and pleading * upon such Writ of Habeas Corpus, in behalf * of such prisoner, is an attempt of dangerous * consequence, a breach of the many good sta- * tutes provided tor the liberty of the subject, * nnd of perniciousexatuple, by denying the ne- * cessary assistance to the prisoner, upon a com- * mitment of the House of Commons, which ‘ has ever been allowed upon nil commitments * by any authority whatsoever. * 0. That a Writ of Error is not a Writ of * Grace, but of Right, and ought not to be de» * nied to the subject, when duly applied for, * (though at the request of either House of * parliament,) the denial thereof being an ob- * struction of justice, contrary to Magna * Charta. ' * In these Resolutions, the House of Lords have expressed that regard and tenderness which they have always had, nnd will ever maintain for the rights of the people of England, ami for the liberties of their persons; and also their zeal against nil innovations to the prejudice of the known course of law, whereupon the happiness of our constitution depends; and Uiey hope that, upon recollection, the House of Commons will be of the same opinion in all the particulars resolved by the Lords, and agee* with their lordships therein." Ordered, That the said Report be taken into consideration to-uiomm morning: When tit * I 381)] PARL. HISTORY, 3 Anks, 1705 — [SIX * Managers of the last Conference were appointed to draw up a proper Answer. March 6. The Serjeant at Arms attending this House, acquainted the House, that a person had this morning brought him a Writ of Habeas Corpus, under the great seal, for Mr. Mountague (in his custody by order of this House) to be brought, as he was informed, before the Lord Keeper of the great seal of England:And he delivered the Writ, under seal, m at the table. And it appearing by the label to be returnable immedicitc, but not before whom he was to be brought, nor any officer’s name thereto, the Writ was opened by the Clerk, and read, and is us followeth: ' Anna Dei gratia Ang’ Sco’ Franc’ ct Ili- * hern’ Regina, Fidei Defensor, Samueli ‘ P«jwel Ar’ serv’ ad anna attenden’ llonorah * * Dom* Coinmun’ ejus deputato et deputatis sa- ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ords having given Judgment in the Case of Ashby and White, viz. That, by the known law’s.of this kingdom, every freeholder, or other person, having a right to give his vote at the elections of members to serve in parliament, and being wilfully denied or hindered so to do, by the otficer who ought to receive the same, may maintain an action in the Queen’s courts, against such officer, to assert his right and recover damages for the injury:" The Petitioners thereupon brought the like actions in their own cases. Whereby an extrajudicial Vote of your lordships is stated as a Judgment of parliament, and standing law in that case, yottr lordships having no foundation fur the entertaining such petitions, unless, that, after having assumed to yourselves the hearing of uppeals from courts of equity, you would now bring appeals to your lordships from the proceedings of the Commons, who arc not accountable to your lordships for them. Your Lordships’ second Resolution is, That * every freeman of England, who apprehends ‘ himself to be injured, has a right to seek re-‘ dress by action at law; And that the com-‘ mencingand prosecuting an action at com- * mon-law, against any person (not entitled * to privilege of parliament) is no breach of * the privilege of parliament. ’ To which the Commons say that every freeman, and every subject of England, has a right to seek redress for an injury; but then such person must apply for that redress to the piopet Court, which hath, by ancient laws and usage, the congnizance of such matters; Fur, should your lordships’ Resolution be taken as an universal proposition, all distinction of the several court *, viz. common-law, equity, ecclesiastical, admiralty, and other courts, will be destroyed; and, in this confusion of jurisdiction, the high court of parliament is involved in your lordships Resolution. However, the Commons conceive it no wonder your lordship* should favour the universal proposition that nil rights whatsoever are to be redressed by actions at law, when your lordships pretend to have the last resort in cases of judicature by Writs of Error; so that your lordships are, in this, only extending your own judicature under the colour of a regard and tenderness for the rights of the people and liberties of their persons. The Commons are surprised to find your lordships assert, that the cmmmncing and prosecuting an action against a person not entitled to privilege of parliament, is no breach of the privilege of parliament, since it is most certain, that to commence and prosecute an action which would bring any matter or cause solely cognizable in parliament, to the examination and determination of any other court, is more destructive to the privileges of parliament, than to commence and prosecute an action against a person only who is entitled to such privilege. * 93] PARL. HISTORY, 3 Anne, 1705. — [594 That some matters and causes are solely cognizable in parliament, hath ever been allowed by thes^ge judges of law, and is evident from many precedents; and to bring such causes to the determination of other courts, strikes at the very foundation of all parliamentary jurisdiction, which is the only basis and support, even of that personal privilege to which the members of either House of Parliament are entitled; and consequently to commence and prosecute any action, whereby to draw such causes to the examination of any other courts, is equally a breach of the privilege of parliament, whether the defendant, ag'iinst whom such action is brought, is entitled to the privilege of parliament, or not, tyhich, besides the nature and reason of the thing, is fully evident from the constant usage of each House of Parliament, in committing for contempts only against their respective bodies, as appears from many precedents upon the Journals of both Houses. Your Lordships’ third Resolution is this, viz. ‘ That the House of Commons, in committing ‘ to Newgate, Daniel llorne, Henry Basse, ‘ and John Paton, ju ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Petition of Right ['Petition of Right']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- which was •greed to. The Serjeant at Arms, attending the House, having acquainted the House, that he had re-V«U VI. ceived two Writs of Habeas Corpus under the great seal of England, to bring before the lord-keeper the bodies of James Mountague, esq.; and Alexander Denton, esq.; (who are committed to his custody by warrants from the Speaker of this House for a breach of privilege.) The House again assumed the consideration of that matter: And after Debate, Resolved, u That no Commoner of England, committed by the House of Commons for breach of privilege, or contempt of that House, ought to be, by any Writ of Habeas Corpus, made to appear in any other place, or before any other judicature, during that session of parliament wherein such person was so committed. " That the Serjeant at Arms attending this House, do make no return of, or yield any obedience to the said Writs of Habeas Corpus; and, for such his refusal, that lie have the protection of the House of Commons. * That the Lord-Keeper be acquainted with the said Resolutions, to the end, that the said Writs of Habeas Corpus may be superseded, as contrary to law, and the privileges of this House." Ordered, " That the clerk of this House do acquaint the Lord-Keeper of the great seal of England with the said Resolutions." Free Conference.] March 13th. The Re- port of what passed at the Free Conference wu delivered by Mr. Bromley, as follows: That the Lords who appeared as managers* and spoke at this Free Conference, were, the earl of Sunderland, the lord Ferrers, the bishop of Salisbury, the lord Halifax, the lord Wharton and the duke of Devonshire Lord Steward. That the Free Conference way begun by the managers for the Lords, who said, this Conference was desired to maintain a good correspondence between the two Houses, which was never more necessary than at this time. That the delivering Resolutions at their first Conference was parliamentary; and instanced the Resolutions 3 Car. 1, which produced the Petition of Right. That the Lords look upon the Commons to be a great part of the constitution, which cannot be preserved but by doing right to both Houses. That every part of the body politic, as well as the body natural, ought to be kept within due bounds; an excess in any member will weaken the whole. That this Constitution is the wonder of the world, and glory of this nation; it is founded upon liberty and property: and the House of Commons hath been a great fence and bulwark of liberty. That the Lords* Resolutions are very well founded, and justified by the laws of the land, as is their judicature in this case. That it was proper for them to receive the Petitions^ and make these Resolutions thereupon. That the l^ordt arejthe great court of judica- 403] fore; and when the courts below have differed in opinion, there has been resort to the Lords for their Judgment, ns in the Case of Kindred of half-blood claiming shares of intestates estates. That when such n Complaint coines before the Lords, they ought to give their opinion as to the law of the land; and that was the foundation of their present Resolutions. 1. That the first1 Resolution was, in effect, agreed to by the Commons, though they go off fo foreign matters, of which the Lords take no ootice. That the law of the land can be altered only by the legislature. 2. That the second Resolution asserts the subjects redress by action at law, &c. That all constitutions have reckoned this their safety; that every man, from the highest to the lowest, hath the protection of the law. That, according to our constitution, the subject may contest his right with the crown, and upon equgl terms, with that respect which is due. That this Resolution only asserts the right, does not state the respective Courts, where the rcdres&is to be hud:If the party mistakes the Court, he is punished by costs of suit. The term of privileged causes’ is new, and the distinction unknown. 3. To support the said Resolution, it was urged, That the breach of privilege was not well grounded. That it belongs to the crown to make Declarations; the Commons did indeed make Ordinances; and when their prince was murdered, they came to Declarations. That a law, without promulgation, cannot have force to make an offence. ' Hie liberty of men’s persons is the greatest privilege, and not to be takch away, hut in known cases; the invading of it has shook the best constitutions. That the taking away the liberty of one mean person, once endangered the government of Ua me. That both Houses may commit for breach of privilege, but cannot declare any thing to be a privilege, without good grounds, nor consequently make any thing, a contempt, that is not known to be so. That Commitments, or Censures, have nr>t been usual upon actions at law, though such actions have brought the proceedings or privileges of either House in question. That, in the case of Freedom of Speech, which is the greatest privilege, there was a Judgment in king Charles the Ist's reign, in the heat of those thing *, against some members, for Speeches in parliament: this the Commons first condemned; and then by Conference brought it before the Lords, who came to a Resolution, that it was erroneous, ancf desired the lord Hollis to bring his Writ of Error; and there-•p«m it was reversed by the Lords, in the time [404 of Charles the 2nd; which shews the care the Lords had of the Commons privileges. That in Soame and Barnardiston's Case, the Commons did not concern themselves, only in support of the action, when in 1678, they examined the judgment of reversals as a grievance. That the Lords had not interposed in any suits, which concerned the proceedings of their House. Thai the earl of Banbury (as he was called) was, by the Lords, adjudged to be no peer: This was examined in the King’s Bench, where, in abatement of an indictment of murder against him, as Charles Knowles, esq. he pleaded his title of an Earl; and in avoidance of that, the Order of the Lords was replied, and was examined by the Court, and disallowed. That the late bishop of St. David’s was prosecuted in the spiritual Court, and deprived, though a member of that House; and the Lord} did not interpose. That it is the wisdom of all governments, to have the law open; and that is the difference between a legal and an arbitrary government. That the Lords do not meddle with the Commons’ right of determining their own elections; they have a settled possession of it, which is a right: But if all the rights of subjects concerned in those elections are to be determined there, that will bring all questions of Freehold, and the allowance of all Charters, and all liberty and property before them. That a freeholder of aOj. per annum has a right of inheritance, to which he is born; and if his Vote is denied, he is damnified, and loses the credit of his Vote; and if he shall only come to the House of Commons, they can neither give him damages nor costs of suit. That a. freehold cannot be determined by any Court which cannot give an Oath. That the Precedents produced concern only the right of determining elections in general. And an action by an elector, for his right of Voting, does not avoid the election. 4. To maintain the fourth Resolution, they said, That it may be lawful for a man to apply for his liberty, when he cannot have it. That the proceeding in 1076, produced as a precedent in this Case, were upon a matter contested between the two Houses, and resolved differently in the Lords House: Topham and the lieutenant of the Tower were both turned out; and the ferment was ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- retnnnd, discharge, or bail the prisoner, as the cause of Lis commitment appears there sufficient or insufficient in law; and if what is alledged as the mute of imprisonment appears to be no crime in law, it is not the authority of those who made the commitment, that can excuse that court for remanding the prisoner. This is the law of England: But, according to these Resolutions of the House of Commons, if a man has the unhappiness (though through ignorance or mistake) to do an act which shall be voted a breach of privilege, be becomes in a worse condition than any felon or traitor; his confinement makes it impossible for him m person to solicit and procure a Habeas Corpus, and, if any have chanty enough to assist him, or to plead for him, in order to show to the Court the insufficiency of the commitment in matter of law, they become liable to lose their own liberty, and are involved in the same guilt of breach of privilege; So that let the imprisonment be upon the most trifling occasion imaginable, if it be by order of the House of Commons, every Commoner must submit to it without redress, no friends can help them, no other authority can deliver them, till your majesty shall put an end to that session. The Ixirds have as just a concern as the House of Commons can have, to maintain the authority, and keep up the awe of parliamentary commitments: And they will always do it, as far as justice and the usage of parliaments will allow. There have been cases, particularly that of the earlofShaftsbury, where persons committed by the House of Lords, even members of that House, have sued out writs of Habeas Corpus; and upon the return of those writs, have been brought before the court of King’s Benclr; and their counsel have been heard on their behalf; and yet no censure ever passed upon them for these endeavours to obtain their liberty, or upon their agents, solicitors, or counsel. The House of Commons formerl) acted with more resert e upon so nice an occasion, as the liberty of the subject; for in the year 1680, when ti writ of Habeas Corpus was served upon the serjeant at arms attending the House of Commons, in the behalf of Mr. Sheridan, who stood committed by order of that House; after the Home was made acquainted, thut such a wrir was served upon their officer, and had entered into very long debates upon the matter, they did not think fit to interpose nor pass any censures upon the persons concerned in procuring the writ, or in appearing in behalf of the prisoners; but left the serjeant nt arms at liberty to obey the command of the Habeas Corpus; which he did accordingly, by carrying his prisoner before the judge, where the Habeas Corpus was returnable. The House of Commons have, in former ages, shewn a great and steady concern for the freedom of the persons of their fellow subjects; nnd upon their petitions many excellent laws have been made, to protect liberty against all unlawful restraints by any authority, even that of the crown:But now it is insisted that their own imprisonments are out of the reach of those tows, and their legality not to be examined. 427] In the Srd year of (he reign of your royal grandfather, the House of Commons made a noble stand for the English liberties, and shewed, by undeniable evidence, that the causes of the imprisonment must be expressed in all cases, that so it might appear, upon the return of the Habeas Corpus, whether iuey were sufficient in point of law. It could not then have been imagined, that the successors of those men woald ever have pretended to an arbitrary and unlimited power of depriving their fellow subjects of their liberties, or to vote it to he criminal so much as to enquire into the validity of their commitments. There is another occasion of offence, which the House of Commons have taken against John Paty and John Oviat, two of these prisoners, who thinking themselves wronged in their being remanded to Newgate, by the opinion of the major number of the judges of the court of Queen’s Bench ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'right of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Right of the Subject ['right of the subject']; Right of the Subject ['right of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- at House, and it appears upon the face of the warrant, that the cause of the commitment was no crime iu law, and the plaintiff demurs, what must the judges do in such a case? Will it be possible for them to avoid examining into the commitment and so give judgment one way or other ? Or can it be pretended, that a Writ of Error may not be brought upon such a judgment? And is not the Court, before which the Writ of Error is brought, under a necessity to do justice thereupon, as the law requires? As to the second thing they have taken upon litem to assert, that no Writ of Error lies iu [42S the case, we affirm to your majesty with great assurance, that, by our constitution, the House of Commons have no right or pretence to de-tennine . whether that be so or not, the right of judgment when a Writ of Error is properly brought, is by law entrusted to that Court to which the Writ of Error is directed; and therefore we shall not at present say any thing to your majesty, in an extrajudicial way, and before the proper time as to that point, whether a Writ of Error brought upon a judgment for remanding prisoners upon a Habeas Corpus, can be maintained. Which way that question will be decided hereafter, when the Writs of Error are returned into the parliament, is not at all material, in respect to the petitions of the prisoners which now lie before your majesty:For, unless your majesty be pleased to grant the Writs of Error according to their prayer, the matter cannot come to the proper decision in parliament, and justice will be manifestly obstructed. Whether the Writs of Error ought to he granted, and what ought to be done upon the Writs of Error afterwards, are very different things. The only matter under your majesty’s consideration is, whether, iu right and justice, the petitioners are not entitled to have the Writs of Error granted. We arc sure, the House of Commons, in the year 1689, were of opinion, that a Writ of Error, even in cases of felony and treason, is the right of the subject, and ought to be granted at his desire, and is not an act of grace and favour, which may be denied or granted at pleasure: So that as far as the opinion of the House of Commons ought to have weight in such a question, (whatever the present opinion of the House is) they then thought a Writ of Error was the right of the subject in capital cases (where only it bad been at any time doubted of.) But that it is a Writ of Right in all other cases, has been affirmed in the law-books, is verified by the constant practice, and is the opinion of all your present judges, except Mr. baron Price, and Mr. baron Smith. The law, for the better protection of property and liberty, hus formed a subordination of Courts that men may not be finally concluded in the first instance:But this is a very vain institution, if they be left precarious in the method of coming to the superior Court. All suits are begun, as well as carried on, by the authority of your majesty’s Writs, and the subject has a like legal claim to all of them. The petition for a Writ of Error returnable in parliament, is ouly a matter for form, and respect to your majesty, (like the petition which the Speaker makes in the name of the Com* mons, at the beginning of every parliament, for those privileges which they do not believe to depend upon the answer to those petitions) and is no more to be refused than any other Writ throughout the cause. To affirm the contrary, is to allow an arbitrary latitude to intercept justice, and to make PAUL. HISTORY, % Anne, 17 £kc m) PARL. HISTORY, 4 Ansi, 1165. — Case qftht Aylesbury [4S0 it depend upon private advices, and extrajudicial determinations, whether any causes at all shall be brought to judgment before the high court of parliament. These things being considered, how extremely surprising is an Address from such a body as the House of Commons, that your majesty would not give leave for such a rit ? And no less surprising is what they insinuate, as the reason of their confidence in your majesty, that you would hearken to such an Address, that they have given dispatch to the supplies; They proceeded surely in the matter of the supplies, with a nobler aim, for the safety of your majesty's crown and person, and for the delivering the kingdom from the oppression of French power, employed to set an unjust Pretender upon your Majesty's throne. These are good reasons for disposing of the people's money. Their liberties, and all that is valuable to them, depend entirely upon the good success of the war; and they h&ve used, mall ages, to part freely with their money, for the defence of their liberties and properties, and the removing of grievances and oppressions. But this is the first time a House of Com-aious have made use of their having given the people's money, as an argument why the prince should deny Writs of Right to the subject, obstruct the course of justice, and deprive them of their hirtlt-rights. Qn the 26th of February, the House of Commons proceeded to carry on their resentments to greater extremities, and voted, that the gentlemen who plead as counsel for the five f risoners, upon the returns of the Writs of Ubeas Corpus, and the agents and solicitors who assisted them, were guilty of a breach of privilege, and ordered them to be taken into custody, which order has been executed. This seems to be so great an excess, that it is hard to find words proper for expressing it. When Cromwell committed Mr. Maynard to the Tower, fur assisting one Coney as his counsel, upon a Habeas Corpus, a celebrated author expresses the detestation due to such a fact, in these words:‘ It was the highest act of tyranny that ever was seen in England:It was shutting up the law itself close pri- soner, that no man might have relief from, or 1 access to it. ’ But as strange and unjustifiable as this appears, we beg leave to take notice of another thing yet more irregular (if it be possible :) While the matter was depending before your majesty, upon the petitions foAVrits of Error; after the House of Commons had made an Address to your majesty, that you would not give leave for the bringing of Writs of Error; after vour majesty had, by your gracious answer, signified to them, That this matter, relating to the coarse of judicial proceedings, was 1 of the highest importance, and therefore your majesty thought it necessary to weigh and consider, very carefully, whnt was pro- per for you to do j’ and after they had voted to take this very Answer of your majesty’s into consideration: The day following, they ordered the five prisoners to be removed from Newgate, and taken into the custody of the serjeant at arms attending die House of Commons; and this Order was executed at midnight, with such circumstances of severity and terror, as has been seldom exercised towards the greatest offenders. Your majesty is the only proper judge how highly disrespectful this action is to your royal person and authority. But it concerns us to say, that such a proceeding tends directly to the depriving the petitioners of that justice, which they were endeavouring to obtain by means of the Writs of Error. While your majesty was deliberating how to put an end to a matter, which they bad only made diliicult by an unreasonable address, the House of Commons rightly apprehended, that justice would prevail with your majesty over all other considerations, and therefore, as far as possible to disappoint the prisoners, of the fruit they expected from these Writs of Error when granted, they transferred them, in the mean time, to another prison. This practice of removing prisoners from one custody to another hath been ever complained of, as manifest oppression, and most evidently destructive of the liberty of the subject: It is a mischief provided against in express words, by the act made in the reign of your royal uncle king Charles the second, for the better securing (lie liberty of the subject; Thai if any person, being a subject of this realm, shall be committed to any prison, or in custody of any officer whatsoever, for any criminal, or supposed criminal matter, that the person shall not he removed from the said prison or custody, into the custody of any officer (unless it be by a Habeas Corpus, or some other legal Writ:) and this upon the great penalties 'mentioned in that act. The penalties in the act were new, but the law of England was the same before the making it. The shifting of men from one prison to another, while they are using means in the course of law to recover their liberty, is inexcusable cruelty, and against the plain rules of natural justice; for by such artifices, imprisonments, however unlawful, might be made perpetual, and the subject, os he was at the point of being discharged from one prison, might be, without end, removed to another. May it please your majesty, your dutiful subjects, the Lords spiritual and temporal, wereio solicitous to avoid any thing , which might give a pretence to interrupt the necessary and early provision for the war, in order to improve the wonderful successes God had given to your arms; that though they were sensible the imprisonment of these men, in the manner, and upon the pretences abovementioned, was a manifest attempt to elude the judicature of parliament, and of pernicious example, to the liberty and property of the subject, yet they fur-bora to take notice of it, till they were* in » 451] PARL. HISTORY, 4 Anne, 1705. — in [Q2 manner enforced by Petitions from the prisoners presented the 24th of February last, and by the unjustifiable proceedings of the House of Commons the same day which we have already mentioned to jour majesty. But then the Lords found it absolutely necessary, to enter into a consideration of the whole matter, as it appeared to them, and upon the 27th of February they came to the following Resolutions: Resolved, "That neither House of parliament have power, by any vote, or ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- not pretend to examine or to censure the conduct of the queen’s Allies, who were not subject to them, nor could be heard to justify themselves: and it was somewhat extraordinary, if they should pass a censure, or make a complaint of them. It was one of the trusts, which was lodged with the government, to manage all treaties and alliances, so that our commerce with our allies was wholly in the crown. Allies might sometimes fail, being not able to perform what they undertook; they are subject to errors and accidents, and are sometimes ill sen*ed. The entering into that matter was not at all proper for the House, unless it was intended to run into rash and indiscreet eeneures, . — The Acts against the Scots repealed. [476 on design to provoke the Allies, and by that means to weaken, if not break the alliance. The queen would, no doubt, endeavour to redress whatever was amiss, and that must be trusted to her conduct. Thus this attempt, which was chieffy levelled against the duke of Marlborough, not only failed, but it happened upon this, as upon other occasions, that it was turned ugaiust those who made it. Address to maintain a good Correspondence with the Allies.] On the 27th of November, the two Houses attended the queen with the following Address: " We, your majesty's most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Lords spiritual and temporal, and the Commons, in parliament assembled, being justly alarmed by the many artifices which the emissaries of France have put in practice thia last year, in order to raise jealousies, and create misunderstandings, amongst the Allies engaged in tins necessary war, for the support of the liberties of Europe; and being apprehensive lest such malicious insinuations, if they should pass unobserved, might in time so far take place, as to abate the spirit, and slacken the zeal, of the confederacy; do most humbly beseech your majesty to use all possible endeavours to preserve agood correspondence amongst all the confederates, and, in a most particular manner, to maintain and cultivate a strict friendship with the States-general of the United Provinces. — And we most humbly entreat your majesty, That as, in your own way of acting, you have set before your Allies a great and noble example; so you would be graciously pleased, by all proper means, to excite tha whole confederacy to make early and effectual preparations, and to exert their utmost vigour in the prosecution of the war against France." The Queen's Answer.] Her majesty’s Answer was to this effect: " My Lords and Gentlemen; your joining in this Address, is a very particular satisfaction to me. — The opinion of both Houses of Parliament will always lie of the greatest weight with me. I shall readily comply with your desire; and I make no question but it will meet with a just regard from nil our Allies." The Acts against the Scots .] The queen having laid before the two Houses the Addresses of the Scots parliament against any progress in the Treaty of Union, till the Act, which declared them aliens by such a day, should be repealed; the Tories, upon this occasion, to make themselves popular, after they had failed in many attempts, resolved to promote this, apprehending, that the Whigs, who had first moved for that act, would be for maintaining their own work; but they seemed to be much surprised, when, after they had prefaced their motions in this matter with such declarations of their intentions for the public good, that shewed they expected opposition and a debate; the Whigs not only agreed to this, but carried the matter further to the other act relating to their manufacture and trade. This passed very unanimously in both Houses; 477] PARL. HISTORY, Anne, 1705.- end, by this means, way was made for opening a Treaty, as soon as the session should come to an end. All the northern' parts of England, that had been disturbed for some years with apprehensions of a war with Scotland, which would certainly be mischievous to them, what* ever the end of it might ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Northampton, Guilford, H. London, Carnarvon, Thanet, Anglesea, Rochester, Granville, Guernsey, Buckingham, Weymouth, Nottingham, North and Grey, G. Bath and Wells.’ ’ Then, after further debate, the question waa put. Whether this bill shall past? It was re* solved in the affirmative. tl Dissentient ’ " 1. Because, it having been our humble opinion, that nothing can so firmly secure the succession to this crown in the Protestant line, as the presumptive heir’s residing in this kingdom, and our proposal of an humble Address to her majesty for that purpose having been refused, this whole bill also being founded on tha said heir’s being absent at the time of the queen’s demise, we fear the bill may prove not only ineffectual to these good purposes for which it is designed, but dangerous also in preventing the said heir's coming hither, in the mean time, by the opinion some have of the successor’s being so well secured, that no such further care needs to be taken about it. " 2. Because every one of the 7 Lords Justices, constituted by this bill, is therein made so far independent of the very successor, as not to be displaced by the said successor in that instrument, which is to be deposited here for the addition of more Lords Justices; the reason for which addition we think equally strong, by enabling also the successor to exclude, by the said instrument, any of those seven justices: which said justices may otherwise be found (when, perhaps, it will be too late) invested with too great a power, if they can ever be supposed capable of ill employing it. " 3. Which last objection we conceive to be of more weight, since it was refused by the House to restrain those future Lords Justices from repealing the following acts, viz. An Act for preventing dangers which may happen from Popish recusants; an act for the more effectual preserving the king’s person aod government, by disabling of papists from sitting in either house of parliament; the act for the better securing the liberty of the subject, and for prevention of imprisonment beyond the seas; the act for the further security of his majesty's person, and the succession or the crown in the Protestant line, and for extinguishing the hopes of the pretended prince of Wgles, all other pre- 479] PARL. HISTORY, 4 Anne, 1705. — Debate in the House of hards [4S0 tenders, and their open and secret abettors; the act for exempting their majesties Protestant subjects, dissenting from the church of England, from the penalties of certain laws; the act for the frequent meeting and calling of parliaments; and the act for regulating of trials in cases of treason and misprision of treason; which laws we account the very pillars of our constitution, and that consequently no subjects whatsoever ought to be entrusted with the power of passing any act to repeal them, during the time, when it will be impossible for the successor to know any thing of the matter, or so much as that the said successor is become our sovereign. 4. " Because in this very bill, which entrusts the Lords Justices with a power of giving the royal assent to laws of so dangerous a nature, and with all the executive power, yet, we conceive, they are restrained from revoking the least military commission, or disbanding any officer of the army, though never so much deserving to be suspected by them. " lastly, We apprehend the great danger her majesty may be exposed to, since whatever is insufficient to secure the succession in the Protestant line, and may render it liable to difficulties or uncertainties, must also encourage ill designs against her sacred life; which may be thought the only obstacle in the way of such wicked persons, who may flatter themselves with the hopes of confusions after it. — (Signed) Beaufort, Carnarvon, Denbigh, Buckingham, Anglesea, Havcrshatn, Nottingham, Thanet. " Wc dissent for the four last reasons, Granville, North and Grey, Guernsey." Debote in the House of Lords concerning the Danger of the Church.) Dec. 6. After the ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and to be early in endeavouring to disappoint the designs of our enemies. " My Lords and Gentlemen; It will be convenient to make a recess in some short time, I hope therefore you will continue to give all necessary dispatch to what may yet remain unfinished of the public business before you." The public Revenues voted to have been duly applied.] Feb. 21. The House of Commons proceeded to take into further consideration the Accounts of the Revenues and Debts ever since her majesty’s happy accession to the crown; and resolved, " That it appeared to the House, That the public Revenues granted, or arisen since her majesty’s happy accession to the crown, had been duly applied to the happy uses, under a prudent management, to the advancement of the public credit, and for the advantage and honour of the nation." * * M The House of Commons went on in creating funds for the supplies they had voted for the next year: and the nation was so well satisfied with the government, and the conduct of affairs, that a fund being created for two millions and a half, by way of annuities for 99 years at 6£ per cent, at the end of which the capital was to sink; the whole sum was subscribed, in a very few days: at the same time the duke of Marlborough proposed the advance of a so m of 500,000l. to the Emperor, for the use of prince Eugene, and the service of Italy, upon a branch of the emperor’s revenue in Silesia, at eight per cent, and the capital to be repaid in eight years:the nation did so abound both in money and zeal, that this was likewise Advanced in a very few days:our armies, as Well as our allies, were every where punctually paid:the credit of the nation was never raised VOL. Vi. A Bill to prevent the Gtvwlh of Popery rejected.] Feb. 27. A Petition of the gentry and cltrgy of the south parts of Lancashire, at their monthly meeting, on the 12th, in the borough of Wigan, for suppressing profaneness and immorality, was presented to the House of Commons, complaining of several grievances they laboured under from the priests, Romish gentry, and popish emissaries, and praying for redress and relief. After the reading of this Petition it was unanimously resolved to address the queen, " That she would be pleased to issue out her royal proclamation for the putting in execution the laws in force against all such persons, as had or should endeavour to pervert her majesty’s subjects to the popish religion :" And they ordered, that a Bill be brought ill for making more effectual the act of the 11th year of his late majesty’s reign, for the further preventing the Growth of Popery. This bill was accordingly presented the next day, by sir James Montague, and read the first time; and, on the 1st of March, the Commons gave it a second rending, and went through it in a grand committee. By the act, passed in the latter end of the late reign, it was provided, That all papists should, within six months, after they had reached the age of eighteen, take the oaihs of allegiance and supremacy, or declare themselves protestants; in default whereof, their estates were to go to the next heirs, being Protestants." Now this clause was so lamely expressed, that the Roman Catholics found two ways to evade it. First, there being in all families a gradation of age among the several heirs to the same estates, it happened, that though the person, who was come to the age of eighteen, did not take the oaths prescribed by the law, yet the title of Protestant heir remained undecided, as long as so high in any age, nor so sacredly maintained:the Treasury was as exact and as regular in all payments as any private banker could be. It is true, a great deal of money went out of the kingdom in specie: that which maintained the war in Spain, was to be sent thither in that manner, the way by bills o(exchange not being yet opened:our trade with Spain and the West-Indies, which formerly brought us great returns of money, was now stopt: by this means there grew to be a sensible want of money o ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ters of the other confederate princes, ‘ That no negotiations of peace should ‘ be entered into, but in conjunction with all the Members of the Grand Alliance.' This generous method will prevent the indirect and dangerous practices of the common enemy, will put a stop to clandestine and corrupt transactions; and must not only remove ail present jealousies from the allies, but create in them a lasting confidence and reliance on your honour and justice. — Your majesty’s example, and that of the States General, ought to inspire all th« Other allies w ith a noble cunjUitjou of acting * 45] PARL. HISTORY, 5 Anne, 1700.. with the like vigour. If any of them have been failing for the time past, we hope your majesty will find proper means to let them see, that the only right amends they can make to the cause of liberty, is by doubling their efforts at this im-. portent conjuncture. — This will be the true way to obtain such a peace as all good men desire; which may secure to your majesty’s subjects the Protestant Succession, and all the advantages of trade and commerce; may restore the whole monarchy of Spain to king Charles the Third; may fix such a banier for the States General (in whose security we must always think the interest of England is engaged) as may be to their just satisfaction; and may procure such terms and conditions for all the allies, as may be just, safe, and honourable; such a peace as may be durable and lasting, by reducing effectually the exorbitant power of a prince, whose restless ambition nothing could satisfy, and who has always despised the obligations of the most sacred leagues and treaties. " Moat gracious sovereign; We cannot omit to make our most thankful acknowledgments, of our universal happiness under your just and mild government; of your true zeal for the safety and honour of the church of England; of your great care for the due administration of justice, and your tender regard for the properties and li bertiesofyour people; but, in a particular manner, we must own, with all gratitude, your majesty’s wisdom and foresight, as well as your goodness, in your royal endeavours, to bring to pass an entire and complete Union of your two kingdoms of England and Scotland. May God Almighty make these your glorious designs successful ! and may your majesty long reign over us, to see the happy fruits of them, in the safety, tranquillity, wealth, honour, and flourishing estate, of your majesty's united people!" Tie Quern's Answer.] Her majesty’s An- swer was as follows: 11 My lords; I tun very much pleased with the many expressions of your affection for my service, and of your zeal for the common cause, in the several particulars of this Address, which is entirely to raj satisfaction, and I assure myself it will have its just weight both at home and abroad." The Commons* Addresi.] The Address of the Commons was as follows: " Most gracious Sovereign; We, your majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Commons, in parliament assembled, return your niujcsty oar humble thanks for your most gracious speech from the throne. — And, with all thankfulness to Almighty God, we congratulate your majesty upon the- signal victory obtained by your arms, and those of your allies, under the command of the duke of Marlborough, at Ramillies; a rictory, so glorious and great in its consequences, and attended with such continued successes, through the whole course of this year, that no age can equal. — And as your majesty’s allies have shewed their firmness and good disposition to carry on the war with vigour, so the Commons of England are determined, tha(no TOL. TJ. •‘Thanks to the Duke of Marlborough. [546 specious pretences of peace shall divert them from their steady resolutions of enabling your majesty to improve, in all places, the advantages of this successful campaign. — The experience your Commons have had of the prudent administration, and the great care and manage-roent in the application of the public aids, encourage us ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- pns, and earl of Cholmondeley in the county 4>f Chester; Henry, lord Walden, son and heir apparent of Henry, earl of Suffolk, baron of Chesterfield in the county of Essex, and earl of Bindon in the county of Dorset; the lord keeper, a peer of this kingdom by the name •nd title of William, lord Cowper, baron of Winghain in the county of Kent; and Sir Thomas Pelham, hart, likewise a peer by the name and title of lord Pelham, baron of Laughton is the county of Sussex. Queen's Speech on passing Money Bills. [348 supplies for the fleet and army in less than a week: so that, this day the queen came to the House of Peers, and, having sent for the Commons, the Speaker presented the bills, and made a speech importing, " That as the glorious victory obtained by the duke of Marlborough at Kamillies was so surprizing, that the battle was fought before it could be thought the armies were in the held, so it was no less surprizing, that the Commons had granted supplies to her majesty, before her enemies could well know that her parliament was sitting." The Queen's Speech on pasting the Money Bills.] After which her majesty gave the royal assent to the Land-Tax Bill (4*. in the Eound,) the Malt Bill; an Act for settling the onour and dignities of the duke of Marlborough, upon his posterity, together with the manor of Woodstock, &c. And her majesty afterwards made the following Speech to both Houses: " My Lords and Gentlemen; I am glad of this occasion to repeat to you my great satisfaction in your several Addresses presented to me in the beginning of this Session. — - The zeal and affection which you expressed in them for my service, and the common cause of Europe, cannot fail of being a great encouragement to all our allies. — The particular notice which you have taken of the eminent services of the duke of Marlborough is also very agreeable to me, and I make no question but it will be so to the whole Kingdom. " Gentlemen of the House of Commons; I am to thank you in a very particular manner, for the more than usual dispatch of the Bills of Supply, with which you have presented me. — This will enable me to put all our necessary preparations for next year into a great forwardness, and must needs have a very good effect for improving the advantages of the last campaign. " My Lords and Gentlemen; I suppose you will think it convenient to make some short recess during the holidays. — The zeal and unanimity you have already shewn, are a sufficient assurance to me, that you will all return in the same good temper and disposition to dispatch what remains of the public business." * * " The queen closed the year with two triumphal processions. At the request of the city of London, she ordered that the standards and colours taken at the battle of Kamillies, and which were lately brought from the Netherlands, should be put up in Guildhall, as trophies of that victory. This was done with great solemnity on the 19th of December. Soon after the queen having, by proclamation, appointed a general thanksgiving for the great successes of her arms, and those of her ullies, the last campaign, she went to the cathedral of St. Paul’s, attended by both Houses of Parliament, the great officers of state, the judges, and other public officers. The bishop of Salisbury preached the sermon upon this occasion, " Tm'd ah 549] PARL. HISTORY, 5 Anns, The Commons* Address in favour of the Duke of Marlborough.] January 7, 1707. The Commons having taken into consideration the eminent services of John duke of Marlborough, whereby the glory ofher majesty’s government, the honour and safety of the kingdom, and the interest of the common cause had been so highly advanced, agreed upon the following Address to the queen: " Most gracious Sovereign; We your majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Commons of England in parliament assembled, taking into our consideration the many eminent services of John duke of Marlborough, whereby the glory of your majesty's government, the hono ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distemper']; Particular Man ['particular man'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- land, was more unaccountable. For whereas it might have been reasonably expected, that the management of the newly-united part of this island should have been particularly taken care of, so as to give no just distaste to the Scots, nor offer on handle to those, who were still endeavouring to inflame that nation, and to increase their aversion to the Union; things were on the contrary, so ordered, as if the design had been to contrive methods to exasperate the spirits of the people there. Though the management of the Scots revenue was to fall into the lord treasurer’s hands on the 1st of May, no care was taken to have all the commissions ready at the day, with new officers to serve in them; so that the whole trade of Scotland was stopped for almost two months for waut of orders, to put it into the new course, in which it was to be carried on. Three months passed before the equivalent was sent to Scotland; and, when wine and other merchandize were imported into England, from thence, seizures were every where made; and this was managed with a particular affectation of roughness. All these things heightened the prejudices, with which that nation had been possessed against the Union. It was also known, that many messages passed between Scotland and France; and that there were many meetings and much consultation among the discontented party there. A great body appeared openly for the Pretender, and celebrated his birth-day very publicly, both at Edinburgh, and in other places of the kingdom; and it was openly talked, that there was now an opportunity that was not to be lost, of invading the kingdom, though with small force; and that a general concurrence from the body of that nation might be depended upon. These things were done in so public a manner, that no check being given to them, nor inquiry made after them by those who were in the government, it gave occasion to many melancholy speculations The management from England looked like a thing concerted to heighten (hat distemper; and the whole conduct of the fleet afforded great cause of jealousy. ' * But, to open this more clearly, it will be necessary to give an account of a new scene at court. It was observed, that Mr. Harley, wlm had been for some years secretary of state, Imd gained great credit with the queen, and began to set up for himself, and to act no more under the direction of the lord-treasurer. There was one of the bedchamber-womeu, Mrs. Abigail Hill, who, being nearly related to the duchess of Marlborough, had been taken care of by her, together with her whole family (for they is ere fallen very low) in a mo't particular manner. She brought her not only into that post, hut had treated her with such a confidence, that it bad imroduced her into a high degree of fav debate; though I may speak very plainly, it is with a very honest intention of service, and a very real sense of our great losses and misfortunes. His lordship has spoke so very well, and so fully too to these points, that whatever I can say upon the same subject, will, after what has been said by him, come from me with a very ill grace, yet give me leave, my lords, to speak a word or two. Your disasters at sea have been so many, that a man scarce 599] knows where to begin. Your ships hare been taken by your enemies, as the Dutch take your herrings, by shoals, upon your own coasts: nay, your royal navy itself has not escaped: And these are pregnant misfortunes, and big with innumerable mischiefs; your merchants are beggared, your commerce is broke, your trade is gone, your people and manufactures ruined, the queen has lost her . customs, nnd the parliament must make good the deficiencies; while in the mean time our allies have an open and flourishing trade, and our enemies make use of both our own ships and seamen too against us. There is yet a further grievance, when, through a thousand difficulties and dangers, the honest trader has brought borne some small effects, he is falleu upon, and oppressed by vexatious and unjust prosecutions:I mention this with relation to the Union, and shew, that though I was always against it, yet since it is made, I am for keeping firmly and exactly to it. — My lords, the face of our affisirs is visibly changed in the space of one year’s time, and the temper of the nation too. Formerly men stifled their misfortunes, and were afraid of whispering them out for fear of being overheard and undone. Now, it is hard to stop their mouths, or keep them within toy bounds, the moving objects of sorrow we meet with every where, the tears of the fatherless, and cries of the widows, have raised both a compassion for the distressed, nnd resentment, and indignation against the authors of these m isfortunes; and the very flames which of late have flown abroad, nobody knows front whence, and papers have been cryed in your streets, are all marks of the great ferment the nation is in. My lord, you are now upon the great enquiry, by what ways and persons we have been brought into this miserable condition; 1 think it very indifferent which wny you proceed. It seems reasonable that those Lords who first moved this order, should put it into what method they please; but I roust take leave to say, that, begin were you will, if you do not end with the ministry, we shall be in a worse condition, in my opinion, than we were before. -*-As to the Admiralty, if the prince’s council have committed any fault, it is very fit they should have what they deserve, but I hope no persuasion will prevail with the prince himself to lay down that commission. The navy I think is safer in his hands, than in any other man’s whatsoever; and 1 will give your lordship my reason for it. He has advantages no other person can pretend to: He owes not his commission to the favour of any great minister whatsoever, nor is he within the reach of their power; he stands upon a much more unshaken and firm foundation; and if there be any mistake, it is impossible to be the effect either of the fear, or the anger of a great minister, or a care to please him. — My lord, I take the root of all our misfortunes to be in the ministry; nnd without a change of the ministry, in my opinion, no other remedy will be effectual: It may perhaps be told by some lord, that I ar- [COO raign the ministry. I know that is not proper here, yet every lord has liberty of speaking his thoughts freely, and taking notice of any thing he thinks a grievance to the uation:And it is under this notion of complaint, and from a sense of our miserable condition, that I say this to your lordships; and if I were not confident 1 stand upon sm e ground, I should not venture thus far; but I have my justification in my hand. And now, my lords, it is fit I should prove what I say. — Should I mention the first, iburtfi, and last Articles of the Union, I am within your order, and those lords who serve at present for the north part of Britain, -1 aru confident, have heard of a complaint and address of the royal boroughs; and 1 might remember the disappointments we have met with in Spain; but 1 hope those two points will be some time or other considered. I will therefore keep myself for proof strictly to your petition, and 1 think uotning is more evident than that your ministry has been the cause of these misfortunes. And the argument which convinces me (of it is drawn from an address of your lordships in 1704, which I have in my hand. 1 know before whom I speak, the queen is a princess of that consummate wisdom, at not to do any thing without the advice of her ministry; your lordships did then roost humbly advise nnd address her majesty, that particular care migitt be taken of those two points, nooe hut those who have her majesty’s ear could prevail to the contrary, and the want of following your lordships advice has lost the nation near ten millions since; and therefore it evidently follows, that yoor ministry have been the occa*. sion of these losses. — In short, my lords, for I will trouble you no farther; let oar misfortunes be skinned over as they will, if they foster and throb, and are foul at bottom, they will certainly break out with incurable rage and fury " The debate growing high, some lonls endeavoured to allay it, by proposing ways and means to retrieve our losses at sea; and, among the rest, the lord Ballifox moved, That a Committee be appointed to receive proposals for encouraging of Trade and Privateers in the West-I ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- at to themselves; being councilors, they were bound to answer only for their fidelity. The complaints were feebly managed, at the bar of the House of Commons: for it was soon understood, that not only the Prince, but the queen likewise concerned herself much in this matter: And both looked on it ns a design, levelled at their authority. Both Whigs and Tories seemed to he at first equally zealous in the matter; but by reason of the opposition of the court all those who intended to recommend themselves to favour, abated of their zeal: Some were vehement in their endeavours to baffle the complaints; They had great advantages from the merchants managing their complaints but poorly; some were frighted, and others were practised on, and were carried even to magnify the conduct of the fleet, and to make excuses for all the misfortunes that had happened. That which hud the chief operation, on the whole Tory party, was, that it was set round among them, that the design of all these complaints was to put the earl ofOrford again at the head of the Beet: Upon which they all changed their note, and they, in concurrence with those, who were in offices, or pretended to them, managed the matter so that k was let fall, very little to their honour. Unkind remarks were made on some, who had changed their conduct upon their being preferred at court; but the matter was managed with more zeal and courage in the House of Lords, both Whigs and Tories concurring in it. A Committee was appointad to examine the complaints; they called the merchants who had signed the Petition, before them; and treated them not with the scorn, that was, very indecently, offered them by some of the House of Commons, but with great patience and gentleness; they obliged them to prove all their complaints by witnesses upon oath.’* Burnet. G03] PARL. HISTORY, 6 Anne, 1707. — Queen's Speech on passing the Money Bills. [604 well as misfortunes; the merchants were respectively examined touching their complaints and grievances, and the Fnnce’s council made their replies and vindication. Mr. lleathcote, •on of Sir Gilbert lleathcote, and Mr. Dawson, Rusaia-Merchauts, spoke very boldly, and stuck not to charge the managers of the navy with fraud, malice, and ignorance, which ail bore hard on Admiral Churchill. Several members interrupting them, Sir Richard Onslow, chairman of the committee, desired them to go on. Whetstone, who commanded the Russia-cou-voy, and rose to a flag, from being master of a small Bristol-Suip, luid a character winch seemed to be referred to by Mr. lleathcote and Mr. Dawson, in their complaint of fraud, malice, and ignorance. Tnese debates and complaints ended in a Resolution, " That, for the better securing the Trade of this ki 'gdotn, over and above the ships of war for the hue of battle, and the convoys to remote parts, a sufficient number of ships, afterwards seitied at four, be appointed to cruize in proper stations/ ' Resolutions to w>. ’•x the more com- pleat.] The commons ordered a bill to be brought in to repeal the acis passed in Scotland, for the security of that kingdom, and about peace and war, which had given so great a jealousy to the English nation, that the rescinding of them was one of the principal views of the ministry, in the prosecution of the Trcaty of Union. This done, they considered those pans of the Queen's Speech relating to the making of the Union more compleat, and resolved, on the 11th of December, " 1. That there be but one ptivy-council in the kingdom of Great Britain. 2. That the militia of that part of Great Britain called Scotland be regulated, in the same manner as the militia of that part of Great Britain called England is regulated. 3. That the powers of justices of peace for preserving the public peace be the same throughout the whole United Kingdom. 4.That for the better administration of justice and preservation of the public peace, the lords of justiciary be appointed to go circuits twice in the year. 5. That the writs ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- having been read, and the question being proposed, " That of the 29, 395 English forces provided by parliament, for the service of Spain and Portugal, in the year 1707, there was but 8, 660 in Spain and Portugal, at the time of the battle of Almanza a debate arose thereupon, which was adjourned to the 3d of February, when the House resumed it, and Mr. St. John offering to the House an Account of the number of Forces provided for Spain and Portugal in 1707, the same was brought up to the table, and read; and the question formerly proposed and debated, was, with an amendment, agreed unto by the House, as followed, viz. Resolved, " That it appears to this House, that of the 29, 395 English forces provided by parliament, for the service of Spain and Portugal in the year 1707, there were hut 8, 660 men, besides Commission and Noncommission officers, and servants, in Spain and Portugal, at the time of the battle of Almanza." Then a motion being made, and the question proposed, That an humble Address be firesented to her majesty (laying the said Resoution before her majesty) and humbly desiring, That she would be graciously pleased to order an Account to be laid before that bouse, how it came to pass that there were no more English forces m Spain and Portugal at the time of the battle of Almanza; and also that her majesty would be pleased to use her utmost endeavours, that the war in Spain might be vigorously and effectually prosecuted:it was carried in the affirmative: and resolved that the Address be presented to her majesty by the whole House. Accordingly on the 5th, the Speaker, with the House, attended the queen with the said Address, to which her majesty answered; " Gentlemen, What you desire — Address concerning Captain Kerr. [61*3 shall be carefully examined, and I will send you an answer in a short time." The Lords' Address concerning the Complaints against Captain Kerr.] Feb. 7. All this while the Lords had under consideration the business of Spain, and the Grievances of the Merchants. In reference to the last, their lordships having maturely considered the Com- [ilaints against captain Kerr, presented the fol-owing Address to her majesty: " May it please your most excellent majesty; We your majesty’s roost dutiful and obedient subjects, the Lords spiritual and temporal in parliament assembled, do humbly inform your majesty, that there has been laid before this bouse by Mr. Thomas Wood, in behalf of himself and divers other Jamaica merchants, a complaint against captain William Kerr, late commander of a squadron of your majesty’s ships at that island, for refusing to grant convoys for their ships to the Spanish coast of America; and in.particular, that the said Mr. Thomas Wood had offered to the said captain Kerr the sum of 600/. as a gratuity, if he would order one of your majesty’s men of war under his command, to go as convoy to the Neptune sloop, and Martha galley, loaded with woollen and other goods of your majesty’s subjects:, That the said captain Kerr at that time seemed pleased with the proposal, and said, the Windsor should be the ship, and ordered Mr. Wood to make what dispatch he could io getting the galley and sloop ready. On which encouragement he got them ready to sail, and bought three hundred negroes to put on board them; and then acquainted captain Kerr therewith, and with the great charge he was at in maintaining the negroes, and his fear of their sickness. Captain Kerr then said, he feared he could not spare a man of war, but the next day sent Mr. Tudor Trevor, captain of the Windsor, to acquaint Mr. Wood, that captain Kerr said, he thought Mr. Wood could not have offered less than 2,000, or at least 1, 500/. Whereupon Mr. Wood declared the sum was so great, that the trade could not bear it, and so the sloop and galley proceeded on their voyage without convoy; and in their return, the sloop, loaded with great wealth, being pursued by French privateeis, and having no convoy, and crouding too much sail to ge ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- . The court, sreing the party for the bill so strong, were willing to compound the matter; and whereas, by the bill, the council of Scotland was not to sit afttr the 1st of May, the Court moved to have it continued to the 1st of Oct. It was visible, that this was proposed only in order to the managing elections for the next parliament; for which reason the Lords adhered to the dav prefixed in the bill. But a new debate arose about the power given by the bill to justices of peace, which seemed to be an encroachment on the jurisdiction of the Lords regalities, and of the hereditary Sheriffs and Stewards, who had the right of trying criminals, in the first instance, for fourteen days time; yet it was ordinary, in the cases of great crimes and riots, for the privy council to take immediate cognisance of them, without any regard to the fourteen days:So that by this act the justices of peace were only impowered to do that, which the privy council usually did; and, except the occasion was so great, 'as to demand a quick dispatch, it was not t« be doubted, but that the justices of peace would have great regard to all private rights. Yet, since this Indthe appearance of breaking in upon private rights, this was much insisted on by those, who hoped, by laying aside these powers given to the justices of peace, to have gained the main point of keeping up a privy council iu Scotland. For all the Scots ministers said, that the country would be in great danger, if there were not a supreme government still kept up in it. But k seemed an absurd thing, that there should be a different administration, where there was hut one legislature. While Scotland had an entire legislature within itself, the nation assembled in parliament could procure the correction of errors in the administration; whereas now, that it was not a tenth part of the legislative body, if it was still to be kept under a different administration, that nation could not have strength enough to procure a redress of its grievances in parliament; by which means they might come to be subdued and governed as a province. And the arbitrary way, in which the council of Scotland had proceeded ever since king James the first’s time, but more particularly since the. Restoration, was fresh in memoiy, and bad been ho small motive to induce the best men of that nation to promote the Union, that they might be delivered from the tyranny of the council; and their hopes would be still disappointed, if they were still kept under that yoke. This point was in conclusion yielded, and the bill passed by a majority of 60 Lords against 45, though to the great discontent of the Court. There was a new court of Exchequer created in Scotland, according to the frame of that Court in England. Special acta were made for the elections and returns of the representatives in both Houses of parliament; and such was the disposition of the English to oblige them, and the behaviour of the'Scots was so discreet, that everything, that was proposed for the good of their country, was agreed to:Both Whigs and Tories vied with one another, who should shew most care and concern for the welfare of that part of Great Britain. * Discoveries of a Correspondence with France.] About .this time two discoveries were made, very unlucky for Mr. llariey. Marshal Tallind wrote often to Mons. Chamiliard, but he scot his letters open to the secretary’s office, to be perused nnd scaled up, and so to be conveyed by the way of Holland. These were opened upon some suspicion in Holland; and it appeared, that one, in the secretary’s office, put letters in them, in which, as he offered his service to the courts of France and St. Germains, so he gave an account of all transactions here. In one of these he sent a copy of the letter, which the queen was to write, in her own hand, to the emperor; nnd he marked what parts of the letter were drawn by the Secretary, and what additions were made to it by the ford Treasurer. This was the letter, by which the quee ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- l make us for the future set a greater value upon our Habeas Corpus Act, which was the right of every subject before by common-law. — Nor has the characters that have been made of persons to he suspected had any better effect. There are two I shall mention to your lordships, and I think greater mistakes thun both of them can scarce be put into words; the first is, that men of arbitrary principles are the persons who ought to be suspected; this argument has been very much laboured, and great pains has been taken to persuade the world from men’s practices in former reigns, that they are still of arbitrary principles, and from thence it is inferred they ought to be suspected. I shall not trouble your lordships, or myself, at present, to shew the weakness of this argument; I will take it as they that have use of it would have it, for a strong and undeniable consequence, and then I ask, what, my Lords, is the nation to suspect any, who are at the head of your ministry, of giving this encouragement to your enemies ? For f will I. bold to say in this place, if this be a good argument, it is as strong against some who are at the head of your ministry, as against any man I know of who is out of it. — There is another character of suspicious persons, which I cannot but take notice of, because I take it to be very fatal to the freedom of parliament, for it is impossible for any man to take notice, either in parliament, or to the queen herself, of any wrong measures, or false steps in the management of public affairs, without so far reflecting on the ministry; and if this is to be interpreted as an artful method of (evening her majesty’s just esteem of her ministers; and those who do so are to be marked as dangerous to the safety of her majesty’s person, and the present establishment, I am afraid her majesty, for the future, may have several things concealed from her, which miiiht be for her service to know, and one of the great ends and uses of parliaments, the redressing of grievances, and keeping great men in awe, will be quickly laid aside. But, my lords, we have a very visible instance, that this i6 a great mistake; for do we not see those lords, who the last year espoused the case and complaint of the merchants in parliament, now advanced to the greatest places of trust and power ? So that these two methods have rather shewed us, who ought not, than who are to be suspected. — My Lords; I shall now take leave to say one word to the positive {part; and if we would apply an observation of the schools to the case in band, I believe it would set this matter in the truest light. They tell us there is great difference to be made between a division and a distinction: Every division is a distinction, but every distinction is not a division; the soul and the body are distinct, but they are not divided, for that would be a state of death; it is so in this case, the Papist, Jacobite, and Nonjuror, are a party of men divided from the rest of the nation; they want that forma informant, as they call it, that vital spirit of love and loyalty that animates every good subject: But as for others, however they may be distinguished, and differ among themselves in their notions relating either to ecclesiastical or civil policy, yet they seem all to have the same regard and concern for the honour and safety of her majesty and government. 1 would not be misunderstood, as if I did not think some of all persuasions may be faulty:I know, that even amoug the Apostles themselves, he that bore the bag proved the traitor :* My meaning * " The House of Peers having ordered their members to attend on the 12th of January, they took into consideration the State of the Nation, in relation to the late intended Invasion of Scotland; and the lord Havembam opened the debate with his annual speech, which seemed to be prepared for that occasion, and was not without some strokes ia it, levelled against the ministry, which were the strokes that gained attention from some, who were ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e; Mr. Dolben; sir Thomas Parker; sir Peter King, recorder of the city of London; sir John Holies; lord William Paw-let; lord Coningsby; Mr. Spencer Compton; Mr. William Thompson; lieutenant-general Stanhope; lieutenant-general Mordaunt; Mr. Spencer Cowper; sir David Dalrymple. Then it was debated, whether the House should attend in a body, or in a committee of the whole House; and it was carried for a committee by a majority of 192 against 180. This wa9 done by the Doctor’s friends, who found, that, by gaining more time, the people wore still more inflamed; and therefore it was they moved, that the Trial might be public in West-rainster-hnll, where the whole House of Com *, mons might be present. Accordingly, upon the Commons’ request, which was brought up by Mr. Bromley, one of the Doctor’s chief friends, the Lords addressed the queen for a * Barnet — Tindal — Boyer, For the Trial at large, see the State Trials. place to be prepared in Westminster-haJl for the Trial. At length j the Lords sent a message to the Commons to acquaint them, they had appoint* ed the 27th of February for the Trial. Ou that day (all things being prepared) the Lords, in their formalities, went down to the court in Westminster-hall, where vast numbers of spectators bad been admitted. The managers of the Commons, and the committee of the whole house having taken their respective places, and Dr. Sacheverell, who wa9 lodged in the Temple, and came every day with great solemnity m coach to the Hall, being brought to the bar, the Trial began, and lasted three weeks; in which all other business was at a stand* for this took up all men’s thoughts. The queen herself was present every day of the Trial in a private manner. The managers for the Commons opened the matter very solemnly. Their performances were very much end justly commended. Sir Joseph Jekyll, Mr. solicitor-general Eyre, lieutenant-general Stanhope, sir Peter King, but above all, sir Thomas Parker, distinguished themselves in a very particular manner. When his counsel, sir Simon Harcourt, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Phipps, Mr. Dee, and Dr. Henchman, came to plead for him, they very freely acknowledged the lawfulness of resistance in extreme cases, and plainly justified the Revolution and onr deliverance by king William. But they said, it was not fit in a Serinon to name such an exception. That the duties of morality ought to be delivered in their full extent, without supposing an extraordinary case. And therefore the Doctor had followed precedents set by our greatest divines, ever since the Reformation, and ever since the Revolution. Upon this they opened a great field; they began with the declarations made in king Henry the 8th's time; they insisted next upon the Homilies; and from thence instanced, in a large series of bishops ami divines, who had preached the duty ot submission and non-resistance in very full terms, without supposing any exception; some excluding all exceptions in as positive a manner as the Doctor had done, 't hey explained the word Revolution, as belonging to the new settlement opon king James’s withdrawing; though, in the Common acceptation, it was understood of the whole transaction, from the landing of the Dutch army, till the Settlement made by the Convention. So that, they understanding the Revolution in that sense, there was indeed no resistance there. That if the passage quoted from the declaration of king William, while he was prince of Orange, did not come up to that, for which the Doctor quoted it, he ought not to be censured, because his quotation did not folly prove his point. As for hra invective against the dissenters and toleration, they laboured to turn that off, by saying, that he did not reflect on what was allowed by law, but on the permission of, or the not punishing many, who published impiori* and blasphemous books. 827] PARL. HISTORY, S Anne, 1710. — Proceedings [i>2$ And n collection was made of passages in books, full of crude impiety and bold opinions. This gave great off ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sion to see a great way into the secret of that time, when I examined the papers relating to the two dukee of Hamilton. I knew a great deal more since, from two persons of unquestionable integrity, who knew the secrets of that time, the lord Hollis, and sir Harbottle Grimstone; but all received a fall confirmation, when I found it agreed perfectly with the noble account given the earl of Clarendon. 44 Nobody dreamt of a war, nor had they £55] any principles leadin'* to it. But there was an unhappy train of accidents, that hindered matters from being brought to a settlement, even .while the king was granting all they could desire. Stories were carried by persons about both the king and queen, or words let fall, that made them conclude, that there were still ill designs on foot, against the laws that were then passed. But that which brought all to a crisis, was the discovery of a negotiation, to engage the army to declare against the parliament. Whosoever compares the depositions in Rushworth with the account given of that matter by the earl of Clarendon, will see there is a (treat deal more in the one, than the other is willing to believe; though be acknowledges .they had both Goring’s evidence, and Piercy’s letter with them. I will not take it upon me Xo determine, whether they believed too much, or the earl of Clarendon too little. It is certain they believed all that was in the depositions, and a great deal more: For Goring being continued in the government of Portsmouth, and his father being advanced from being a baron, to be an earl, and Piercy’s being made a lord and master of the horse to the prince of Wales, made them conclude they bad suppressed a great deal, instead of saying more than was true. This struck deep in their hearts, and at hast fatally broke out in the demand of the militia, that brought on the war, which, I do own, was plainly a Rebellion, because a force was offered to the king, not Xo defend themselves from an unjust invasion, or illegal grievances, but to extort a new law from him. " Thus the true occasion of the war, was a jealousy, that a conduct of 15 years had given too much ground for; and that was still unhappily kept up, by a fatal train of errors in every step that was made. The great concussion that the war gate the nation, and the barbjrous vftusion of so much blood, especially of the royal blood of that blessed king, had, at last, a happy, though a lute conclusion in the Restoration: Ami it is no wonder if such a scries of tragical events, begot a general horror at the occasion of them. But then it was, that had it not been lor the firmness of the earl of Clarendon to his English principles, the liberties of the nation had been delivered up. " It is to his memory, that we owe our being n free people; for he, with his two great friends, the duke of Ormond, and the earl of Southampton, checked the forwardness of some, who were desirous to load the crown with prerogative and revenue. He stopt all this, which being afterwards odiously represented, brought on him that great and lasting, hut honourable disgrace. The earl of Southampton, whose death went a little before his fall, and perhaps hastened it the sooner, said to many about him, that he was a true Protestant, and au honest Englishman; and that the nation would feel the effects of his being removed, whensoever it might happen. Proceedings on the Impeachment [85G " That Lord, in the great settlement after the Restoration, would carry things no farther, than 10 repeal what had been extorted by the tumults; and in the matter of the Militia-Act, and the oaths relating to it, all was more cautiously worded, than is commotdy understood. To the word ‘ commissioned by the king, ’some, indeed, moved, that the word lawfully’ might be added, to make all plain. That was pressed in the House of Commons by Vaughan, afterwards lord chief-justice of the Common-Pleas. The Attorney-general, afterwards Lord Chancellor Nottingham, answered, that was not necess ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- he cases of extreme necessity, an exception to the doctrine was to be admitted, and that that was the case at the Revolution. 44 But as these notions have been long let ran among us; so they have appeared in a most violent and unguarded manner, ever since the attempt of the Pretender, and more of late, since the preliminaries upon the overtures for a peace, seem to extinguish their hopes. What •ermons on this head are preached in this city •t assizes, at Bath, and at many cathedrals ? Furious men fit themselves with some hot sermons, which they carry about from place to place, to poison the nation. This has not only the visible effect designed by it, of shaking many in their allegiance to the queen, and in their adhering to the Protestant Succession; but it has a cursed effect on many others, on whom this their design does not succeed. 44 I am very sensible there is a great deal of impiety and infidelity now spread through the nation:this gives every good mind all possible horror; but I must tell your lordships, 011 what a great part of it is founded; for since my conversation with Wilmot, earl of Rochester, I have had many occasions to discourse with persons tainted with those wicked principles, •nd I do affirm it, that the greatest prejudice these persous have at religion, at the clergy, and at the public worship of God, is this, that they say, they see clergymen take oaths, and use all prayers, both ordinary and extraordinary, for the government, and yet in their actings and discourses and of late in their sermons, they shew visibly that they look another way; from whence they conclude they are a mercenary sort of people without conscience. 44 I hope there are not many that are so corrupted and so scandalous: I am sure I know a great many that are far otherwise, who preach, speak, and act, as they swear and pray; but those who act in another way, are noisy and impudent, and so bring an imputation on the whole body; and unless an effectual stop is put to this distemper, it is not possible to foresee all the ill consequences that may follow upon it. 44 I have, I ain afraid, wearied your lordships; but I thought it was necessary, once for all, to enlarge copiously on this argument: and now to come close to the Article, and the Sermon, for I meddle not at all with the person of the man; whatever general expressions might very well have been used, in setting forth passive obedience and uon-resistance before the Revolution, because odious cases ought not to be sup|>osed, and therefore are not to be named; yet since resistance was used in the Revolution, and that the late king invited all the subjects to join with him, which was in them certainly resistance; and since the lawfulness of the Revolution is so much controverted, the condemning all resistance in such crude and general terms, is certainly a condemning the Revolution:and this is further aggravated from those limitations oa our obedience, in an act passed soon after the Revolution, by which, in case our princes turn Papists, or marry Papists, the subjects are, in express words, discharged from their allegiance to them. Certainly this puts an end to the notion of non-resistance in any case, or on any pretence whatsoever: For these reasons, I think the first Article of this Impeachment, is both well grounded, and fully made out." Several other peers, particularly the doke of Devonshire, the lord-chancellor, and the lords Somers, Halifax, and Mohun, spoke also id vindication of the late Revolution; and maintained, that in extraordinary cases resistance is necessary and lawful; and concluded, that the Commons had made good the first Article. The 'archbishop of York, the duke of Buckingham, the earls of Nottingham and Rochester, the lords Guernsey, North and Grey, and Caen> marthen, and the bishops of London, Rochester, and Landaff, who spoke on the other side, declared, 44 That they never read such m piece of madness and nonsense, as Dr. Sacheverell’s sermon, but did not think h ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- terable be altered upon the grounds * of prudence and charity: ana things defective ‘ be supplied; and things abused be restored ' to their proper use; and things of a more or- * dinary composition revised and improved; * whilst the doctrine, government, and worship * of the church remain entire, in all the sub- * stantial parts of them; we have all reason to * believe that this will be so far from injuring * the church, that on the contrary, it shall re- * ceive a very great benefit by it. ’ And now, my lords, let any impartial person consider, what was there in such a design that could be justly esteemed prejudicial to the constitution of our church? Wherein would our canons have suffered, if those already made, hud been more strongly enforced; and some new ones had been added for the reformation of manners; for the better punishing of notorious offenders; and to render our public discipline more strict, and severe? This we have been wishing for ever since the Reformation:What harm would it have done our church had it now been effected ? Or how would our excellent Liturgy have been the worse, if a few more doubtful expressions had been changed for plainer, and clearer; and a passage, or two, which however capable of a just defence, yet in many cases seem harsh to some even of our own communion, had either been wholly left at liberty in such cases, to be omitted altogether: or been so qualified os to remove all exception against them in any case. If such collects, os are not yet adapted to the festivals, or gospels, to which they belong; bad been made more full, and apposite to both: If some of the occasional offices had been enlarged; and new ones added: if for example, there had been a greater variety of prayers, psalms, and lessons * A Letter to a Member of Parliament in favour of the bill for Uniting Protestants: Licensed by the command of the earl of Shrewsbury; April 1, 1689, Ja. Vernon, p. 2. appointed by authority, instead of the compositions of private persons now necessarily to be* used, for the visitation of the sick; and new forms composed for the use of prisoners lor debt or crimes:For the greater solemnity of receiving proselytes into our church; Of le-coucilmg penitents to it; and of casting notorious calenders out of it. These were some of the main things that were then designed: As for any favour to the dissenters, none, that I know of, was intended, but what should have been entirely consistent with our own constitution:And I hope it will not be thought any crime for the bishops, and clergy of our church, -to be willing to enlarge its communion, by any metliods which may be likely to gain others, and yet uot injure our own establishment. " But to satisfy your lordships that nothing could have been designed to the detriment of the church; Be pleased farther to consider, how what was thus at fust projected in private^ by select persons, and in a difficult time, when no countenance was to be expected from authority to any such purpose; was afterwards, if ever, to have been brought to maturity. And-tins being a matter of public notice, the relation of it will admit of no exception. " No sooner were their late majesties, of glorious memory, seated in their thrones, but this design was openly espoused by them. A commission was issued out under the great seal of F.nglaud, to a large number of bishops, and’ other eminent divines, to meet together, und to consider of these matters. What they did, having nut had the honour to be one of them, I shall not presume to say. This we know ', that whatever they did, it was to have been carried on from them to the two convocations of Canterbury and York:And after it should have passed their approbations, it was finally to to have been laid before the two Houses of parliament, and so to have gone on to the royal assent. This, my lords, was the course through which all that was desigued, or should have been done in this matter, must have passed; and I am persuaded nothing very in ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- own determinations, that whenever any set of ministers think fit to exert themselves, they may bring in so many military officers, as, together with those who have civil employments, may make up a majority. — I hope we shall be consistent with ourselves in what we did the other day, when we came to those Kesolutions for preventing the danger of arbitrary power. When a majority can be commanded here, despotic power may be established by law, and resistance be made illegal. To render it, at the same time, lawful for the subject to resist, and easy for a prince to become absolute, is bringing the nation into perpetual danger of war between the king and the people. If so many members should be gained here, as to vote a sufficient army, resistance might be impossible, though it were lawful. But admitting the people would be always able to regain their freedom, it cannot surely be thought more advisable to use the remedy of arms, than to keep our liberties safe in a quiet way. If we take care that there always he a sufficient number here to oppose the ill designs of ministers, there will be never any need of resistance by arms. — It cannot be denied, that, in ill times, places, whether civil or military, will have au influence over ill men. For a member of this House to receive a private pension hath always been esteemed a breach of trust, and a violation of our constitution; and a known pension, during pleasure, excludes a man from sitting here. That a place of little trouble, is as valuable as a pension, of the same yearly income, we see by the great crowd of candidates, on every vacancy, and the high prices that we hear are paid for them. — In a common trial, all persons concerned in interest, are not only excluded from being jurymen, but even their testimony as to matter of fact is not thought fit to be credited; and will an ill man, in ill times, gain nothing by his voting ? When a place makes up a considerable part of a man's fortune, is it not plain, that, if the liberty of the subject comes iu competition with the prerogative, it will be his own interest tteen’s Speech the Close of the Session. [593 Company, and for the separate traders, was read a second time, and committed to a committee of the whole House; to whom an instruction was given to receive a clause or clauses, to provide for the instructing of the * negroes in the plantations, in the knowledge * of the Christian religion But this Bill was never brought to perfection, and the only thing the Commons did in favour either of the Company or separate traders, was the voting of an Address to her majesty, " That she would be pleased to give directions, That such ships of war be appointed for protecting the trade to Africa, as might be necessary for the preservation and security thereof.’ ' A Supply granted.]The Commons made good their assurances to the queen, for in less than a month they granted all the necessary supplies for the next year’s service, amounting to 6, 184, 466/. 7s. Of this sum, 1, 500,000l. were raised by way of lottery, and the rest put on good funds. The Queen's Speech at the Close of the Session.] April 5. The Queen came to the House of Peers, and after giving her assent to several bills, made the following Speech to both Houses: " My Lords and Gentlemen; It is with great satisfaction that I come hither at this time to return you my hearty thanks for the marks of duty and affection which you have given me through the whole course of this session. And I a; n to thank you, gentlemen of the House of Commons, in a very particular manner, for the she used these words: 1 am very glad to find, * that you concur with me in a just sense of the * duke of Marlborough’s eminent services.* But notwithstanding this, he had not been long eon£, before she gave a signal proof how much his declared enemies were in her favour, by granting Mr. Hill a pension of 1,000l. a year; and in some time, she made both him and Mr. Masham, men of little or no service, general officers over the heads of many brave men, who had frequently hazarded their lives in her service, and had gone through the toils and hardships of a tedious war. " In the mean time the duchess of Marlborough learnt, that the queen was made to believe, that she often spoke of her in company disrespectfully: upon which she desired an audience, in order to justify herself, which she obtained on the 6th of April; but could make no impression upon the queen, whom she never saw afterwards, nor ever had any correspondence with her majesty, except on two occasions relating to the public. However, notwithstanding this thorough alienation of the queen’s affections from the duchess, she was not yet divested of her employments; it being, perhaps, not yet determined, who should succeed her, nor whether it were proper, that the duke of Marlborough should have that mortification, before the season was fully ripe for the execution of the new scheme; though it now was greatly advanced." Tindal, VOL. VI. great dispatch which you have made, in providing, so early in the year, such great and effectual supplies for the public service: This cannot but make me very desirous to repeat the assurances I gave you at the opening of the session, that they should be very carefully applied to the uses for which you have designed them. — -My Lords and Gentlemen; I cannot sufficiently express to you iny great concern that you have had so necessary an occasion of taking up a great part of your time towards the latter end of this session. — I am confident no prince that ever sat ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s now rather incresed than abated, being industriously fomented and propagated throughout the kingdom, in order to influence elections; which it did effectually, and in a more visible manner, in the cities and boroughs, through which that divine had made his triumphant progress in the summer. Thirdly, all the inferior clergy, a few excepted, thinking themselves attacked through the sides of Dr. Sacheverell, were more than ordinarily zealous and diligent in promoting the interest of such, as they thought best affected to the church; not only without any regard to the necessary qualifications of personal merit or estate in the candidates, but in several instances, in breach of the common duties of gratitude, strenuously opposing their very patrons and benefactors. Besides a course, for some months, of very inflaming sermons, they went about from house to house, pressing their people to shew, on this great occasion, their zeal for the church, and now or never to save it. They also told them, in what ill hands the queen had betn kept, as in captivity; and tli.it it wa* a charity, as well as tlioir duty, to free her from the power, which the late ministry exercised over her. In the last place, there was a vast concourse of rude multitudes brought touether, who behaved theni-sehes iu so boisterous a manner, that it was not safe, and in many places not possible, for those, who had a right to vote, to come and this undei taking. God koows wlrnt will cooie of it. I should be terribly vexed to see things come round again: it will rum the church and clergy for ever; but I hope for belter." Swift’s Journal. 917] PARL. HISTORY, 9 Anne, 1710. — List of the House of Commons. [918 give their votes for a Whig. Open violence was used in several places. This was so general through the whole kingdom, all at the same time, that it was visible, that the thing had been concerted for some tune, and the proper methods and tools had beeu prepared for it. The inAueuce of the mob was, in a particular manner, remarkable in the election for the city of Westminster; where Mr. Medlicotand Mr. Cross being set up by the High-Church party, some of those, who offered to give their voices for their competitors, general Stanhope and sir Henry Dutton Colt, were knocked down and wounded, which obliged many of their party to return home without polling; so the two first candidates had a Vast majority. The Whigs expected, that the election of the city of London would balance that of Westminster j and indeed, the first day of the poll, their candidates had a considerable advantage; hut such industry was used by the then lord-mayor and the aldermen of the High-Church party, in bringing many citizens upon the livery, and engaging their vote *, that upon closing the books, sir William Withers, sir Richard Hoare, sir George Newland, and Mr. John Cass, all four of that party, having the majority of votes, were declared duly elected. Alter the poll was ended, there were extraordinary rejoicing throughout the city, by illuminations, bonfires, ringing of bells, &c. and the tumultuous mob were so exalted and enraged against those, who seemed not to partake in the public joy, that they broke all the windows they saw unlighted, without distinction; so that many houses of the church-party were damaged, as well as those of the Whigs, and in particular that of sir Richard Iloare, one of the four, for whose sakes these rejoicings were made. Some days before, the mob was guilty of a still greater instance of outrage; for, as sir Gilbert lleathcote, one of the Whig candidates, and lord-mayor elect, was going out of Guild-hall, they not only insulted him with reproachful language, but one of them spit in his face. * Though the Tories had boasted, that none of the managers against Dr. Sacheverell would be rechosen members of parliament; yet, notwithstanding the utmost endeavours, that were used to prevent it, sir Joseph Jekyll, sir Peter King, Mr. Lechmere, and Mr. Walpole, were returned; as was a ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- for the preservation of our religion, laws, and liberties. — These are ends, truly worthy your majesty’s pursuit: And we do with all huinility represent to your majesty, that the most eticctual way to give spit it to your friends, and detent the restless malice of your enemies, will be, by discountenancing all persons of such principles, and avoiding all measures of such tendency, ns may weaken your majesty’s title and government, the settlement of the crown in the illustrious House of linnover, and advance the hopes of the Pretender, and all other principles, and measures, that have lately threatened your voyal crown and dignity, and which, whenever they prevail, will prove fatal to our whole constitution both in Church and State." The Queens Answer.] Her majesty gave thif Answer: " Gentlemen; I am extremely well pleated with your Address; and I fully depend upoti the assurances, you give me, of your concurring iu all the particulars I have recommended to yon. — You may depend upon my cure to encourage those, whose principles are agreeable to our constitution in church and state." Controverted Elections — Charter.] Dec. 15. The Commons spent most of the intermediate time on a great many Petitions about controverted elections, the most remarkable of which was in relation to the return of Bewdley in the county of Worcester:and previous to the hearing of the merits of that election, the Commons resolved to present no Address to the queen, That the several Papers relating to the Charter of the said bin-rough, might be laid before the House:and to bespeak the favour of the Commons for Air. Wilmington, the following Speech made in the House near two years before, against the new Charter of Bewdley, was published and dispersed. Sir J. Pachinglon'tSpeech respecting the hendletf-CharterA Sir John Packington said:" Mr. Speaker, I did not intend to have troubled you this session, and 1 believe it will be to little purpose now:For if a gentleman stands up to complain of grievances, although this House meets in order to redreas them, he is represented as a person that obstructs her majesty's business; if he finds fault with the ministry, he is said to reflect upon the quet-n; if he speaks against the continuance of the waT *, to prevent the beggary of the nation, to prevent the moneyed and military men becoming lords of us who have the lands, then ha is to be no object of her majesty's favour und encouragement. This, &; r, is the pass we aro brought to, and this is the freedom of speech you were pleased to ask for at the opening of this Session, and which of right belongs to every member of this House. 1 remember the tune, when such restraints as these would not have been suffered or endured; but we are under arbitrary, ministerial power; and if ever there was an instance of it, it is in this that is uow before us t But, how great soever thedi»> 933] PARL. HISTORY, 9 Annb, 1710 [9U couragements are to freedom of speech, I think tnyself obliged, us an English gentleman, who never will comply with an arbitrary ministry; as a member of this Hou»e, who have been always zealous to supjiort the constitution of parliaments; as a neighbour to this borough in the case now before us, to sneak my mind with that warmth I used to do, when the liberties of >ny country, or any part of it, seemed to be touched. For though the injury may be felt but by one single man, or one single society of men; yet the terror, the concern, and consequence of it, reaches unto all. We have had a fact this day of dangerous tendency laid before us, of a new Charter forced upon an ancient corporation, at the single instance of a noble lord, without a surrender of the old, contrary to law, to reason, and the right of the members thereof; which they refused to accept, as being inconsistent to their former Charter ot‘ king James the 1st, and, as they conceived, void in itself; since it is impossible for two Charters, any more than two grants, or two leases, to have a being at t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- w»6 then thought dangerous to the constitution; and very well it might, for the people of Rnglund could expect no other fruit from such a proceeding, but that this House would be filled with men of the army, with men of desperate fortunes, with pensioners, with vassals of the court, with slaves of the ministry, and with all those servile sort of gentlemen, that give with one hand to receive with the other, and thereby betray those they represent to arbitrary power:But this instance now before us, is more new and dangerous than taking away Charters by surrender or q uowarranto't; those methods made some noise, alarmed the free people of England, and yoli see what caine of it. But this is a quicker, a more silent method of doing it, which like white powder, destroys the liberty of the people, and subverts the constitution of this House without noise or notice. I beg, gentlemen, you would consider all the circumstances with which this Cltacter was at- tended, and I am sure, you cannot reflect upon them without grief. First, as to the time, you have heard, sir, how the Great-Seal of England was affixed to this Charter, upon the 22d of April 1708, the very same day, there was aw Order made in Council to issue out writs, for eailing that parliament. In this critical juncture was this corporation erected, I will not scruple saving, to serve the arbitrary designs of those who are afraid of a free election, who are afraid of a free and on influenced parliament j such a parliament would scorn to flatter great nteu, would inquire into miscarriages, and punish such as were faulty; would call those ministers to an account who should prevail with the queen to turn men of ability and consideration out of place and employment for acting upon principles of honour and conscience, ana doing their duty io this House. Another evil consequence with which this Charter is attended is, that so many new electors, and a new returning officer, are created by it, to the infringement of the liberty of the subject, and making all elections, in a manner, depend upon the will of the prince. 1 hope, gentlemen, you will seriously consider this mutter, that you will lay aside all thoughts of party in this cause; for, if it be in the power of the crown to dissolve old corporations, and erect new, in so exorbitant a manner, we mny bid adieu to liberty and property, and to all that has cost so much blood and treasure to maintain and defend; there wilt he no difference between a parliament of Great Britain and a parliament of Paris. — 1 hope, once more, gentlemen, you will seriously consider how much the honour and justice of this bouse is concerned in the determination of the CR$e now before you. The e-yes of the people have been some time opened; they will observe, they will judge uf our votings in this cause; and expect from us, as we have put a stop to unjust and exorbitant power abroad, that we should neither suffer nor endure it at home." The new Charter of Bradley voted void an illegal.] Dec. 18. The Commons ordered the clerk of the crown to attend the next morning with the last return for the borough of Bewdley, by which Anthony Lechmere, esq. was returned, and also with the returns of Mr. Herbert, now lord Herbert, and Mr. Cornwall, to serve for the said borough; and having the next day, fully heard the merits of the election for the said borough, resolved, l." That Salway Winnington, esq. was duly elected. 2. That the charter dated the 20th ot April 1708, attempted to be imposed upon the borough of Bewdlev, against the consent of the ancient corporation, was void, illegal, and destructive of the constitution of parliament. 8. That an Address be presented to the queen, laying before her majesty the Resolution of the House, and desiring, that she would give directions to her Attorney General to take tl»e proper methods for repealing the said Chatter, and for quieting the said borough in their enjoyment of their rights and prviieges." 935] PARL. HISTORY, 9 Anne, 1711 . — De ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- resolved to present an Address to the Queen, to have those Examinations laid before them:which being done accordingly, and the same referred to a Committee, Mr. Ridge, the member named thereio, desired that he might attend that Committee, to make his innocency appear:of which, the consequence will be seen in its proper place. Two Lotteries.] The money did not come into the treasury so readily as formerly, neither upon the act of 4s. in the pound, nor on the duty laid on Malt. So to raise a quick supply, there were two hills passed, for raising three millions and a half by two lotteries; the iirstof 1, 500,0001, and the second of 2,000,000l. to be paid back in 32 years; and for a fund to answer this, duties were laid on hops, candles, leather, cards and dice, and on the postage on letters. In one branch of this, the House of Commons seemed to break in upon a rule, that that had hitherto passed for a sacred one. When the duty upon leather was first proposed it was rejected by a majority; and so, by their usual orders, it was not to he offered again during that session: but, after a little practice upon some members, the same duty was proposed, with this variation, that skins and tanned hides should be so charged; this was leather in anotheruame. The Lotteries were soon filled up; so, by this means, money came into the treasury; and indeed this method has never yet failed of raising a speedy supply.* There was no more asked, though in the beginning of the session, the House had voted a million more than these bills amounted to; which made some conclude, there was a secret negociation and prospect of peace. Inquiry concerning the Pc. .] The Commons, finding the encouragement given to the Palatines was displeasing to the people, resolved to inquire into that matter. In order to this, a Petition was procured from the inhabitants of St. Olave, and other parishes, complaining of the gieat number of Palatines inhabiting in one house, whereby it was feared some contagious distemper might happen, and them, yielded expressly the point of the flag in those seas, for which alone, on other occasions, we have engaged in wars; so he had no reason to contest a lesser point: yet a censure was likewise laid on this. And this was the conclusion of the enquiries, made by the House of Lords this session." Burnet. * Tindal. — fhe scheme of the Lottery was drawn by Mr. John Blount, scrivener of London, who was employed by the lords of the treasury; which being approved was inserted in the Lottery-bill. When it was advertised, on the 10th of March, that the payments would begin to be taken in atWlercers-hall on te 13th, it was found, that about 266,000l. had been subscribed at the bank of England, above the first payment of the whole sum ofoue million and a half. . — Inquiry concerning the Palatines. [1000 having not wherewithal to subsist themselves, were likely to become chargeable to the parish. This Petition was immediately referred to the consideration of a committee, appointed for that purpose, with instructions co enquire, upon what invitations or encouragemeut the Palatines came over, and what monies were expended in bringing them into Great-Britain, and for maintaining them here, and by whom paid. As the design was now formed to load the late administration all that was possible, it was pretended, that, in the whole affair of the Palatines, there was a design against the church, and to increase the numbers and strength of the dissenters. The queen was addressed for the papers relating to the bringing over and subsisting the Palatines; and at last the House agreed to the following Resolutions of their committee, ‘‘ That the inviting and bringing over into this kingdom the poor Palatines, of all religions, at the public expence, was an extravagant and unreasonable charge to the kingdom, and a scandalous misapplication of the public money, tending to the increase and oppression of the poor of this kingdom, and of dangerous consequence to the consti ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- te; but these ministers framed to themselves wild and unwarrantable schemes of balancing parties, and under a false pretence of temper and moderation, did really encourage faction by discountenancing and depressing persons zealously affected to your majesty and to the church, and by extending their favour and patronage to men of licentious and impious principles, such as shake the very foundation of all government, and ail religion. 14 Out of our unfeigned zeal for your majesty’s honour and service, and our faithful affection to the public good, we cannut forbear with all humility and earnestness to beseech your majesty that you would avoid, a9 the greatest enemies to your royal dignity, and to your people’s safety, all persons who shall endeavour to engage you in such pernicious measures, and that 1031] PARL. HIST. 10 Anne, 1711fiuan’i the Close of the Session. [1033 you would employ, in places of authority and trust, such only as have given good testimonies of their duty to your majesty, and of their affection to the true interest of your kingdom. " These are the hunihle Desires of your faithful Commons, and these we know to be your majesty’s gracious intentions. From your tender concern for this church and nation, and from what you have lately done, and are going on to do, tor the happiness and satisfaction of your people, we promise ourselves a favourable acceptance of this our application; and from our duty to your majesty, and our fidelity to our trust, your majesty may confide in us, that we will, upon all occasions, defend and support your majesty, and our happy constitution, against ail enemies and opposers whatsoever.' ’ The Queen's Answer.] To which the queen returned the following Answer t " Gentlemen; This Representation gives me fresh assurances of your zeal for my service and for the true interest of your country. — it coutaios many particulars. I will take them all into my serious consideration, and give the necessary directions to redress the Grievances you complain of. — Be assured that your advice upon ail occasions, has the greatest weight •with me." Orders for new Writs in the room of Members advanced to Places.] June 7. The Lords having passed the Bill for raising two millions, without amendment, it was generally expected, that the queen would, that day, have come to the House of Peers, to put an end to this long session t but it was tiiought fit to let the Com* noons sit some days longer, to give them an op* portunity to make Orders for the issuing out new Writs fur electing members in the room of such as were advanced to places of trust and profit.* Accordingly, the Commons ordered, this day, a new writ to be made out, for the city of York, in the room of the hon. Robert • " It wa9 never known before, that days were set a*part for rewarding members of parliament with places and employments; be that will look upon the Votes of the last day of the first session, will find almost nothing done but new writs ordered in the room of Parliament* Aden, who had received their wages for their past year’s service; and to such a pitch were they come at last, that at the end of the second session, when the queen’s Speech was mode, and the session closed to all other intents and purposes, both Houses are ordered to adjourn themselves for eighteen days, as if something extraordinary was still behind, that might require the sitting of the parliament; but when the day comes, nothing is done, hut a second list of loyal members, preferred, is produced; and the vacancies of patriots turned courtiers, are by new writs ordered to he filled up; that these dutiful members might be ready at the beginning of the next session, to serve those that had so well rewarded them for their past services." Short History of the Parliament. >V mten by R. W. esq. Benson, made Chancellor and Under-Trea-surer of the Exchequer, and another forThirsk, in the room of sir Thomas Frankland, appoint* ed to manage the duties of the Po->i-office. Then ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o the office of master of her majesty’s hurt and buck-hounds. This done, the Commons ad* journed again to the 19th, and being then met, ordered other uew writs to be made out, for electing, 1. A burgess for Droitwich, in the room of Edward Jeffreys, appointed one ofher majesty’s justices for the counties of Pembroke, Carmarthen, and Cardigan. 2. A burue«s for Ilchester, in the room of Edward Philips, esq. made comptroller of the Miut. 3. A bur* gess for Henford.in the room of Charles Osar, esq. appointed Treasurer of the Navy, in the room of Robert Walpole, esq. 4. A knight for Glamorgan, in the room of sir Thomas Man* sel, advanced, or rather restored, to the office he enjoyed some years before, of comptroller of the queen’s houshold, in die room of sir John Holland. 5. A burgess for Dioitwich, in the room of Edward Foley, esq. made receiver of the duties upon hides and skins. 6. A burgess for New-Radnor, in the room of the right hon. Robert Harley, now earl of Oxford, Ac. called up to die House of Peers. 7. A burgess for Newtown, in Lancashire, in the room of John Ward, esq. made one of the justices of ths counties of Chester and Flint, Denbigh and Montgomery, within the principality of Wales, and otie of her majesty’s counsel learned in the law, in the room of Mr. Lechmerc. And in the 8th and last place, a burgess for Totness, in the room of Frauds G wynne, esq. appointed one of the commissioners of trade and plantations. The Queen's Speech at the Close of f A* .Session.] June 19. The queen came to die House ot Peers; and, after passing several Bills, put an end to the session with the following Speech to both Houses: " My Lords and Gentlemen; uIt is with great pleasure I tell you, at the end of this session, that you have fully made good all the assurances you gave me at the beginning of it. — This I look upon as a farther pledge of my subjects duty and affection; which is the firmest support ot my throne. — I thank you, gendemen of the House of Commons, in a particular manner, for what you have done. You have complied with my desw, as to the second Article in the Report, allow me lo observe to you, that it has arisen only from the information .1 nivself gave the commissioners by my letter to them:This matter having relation to that part of the service to which the sums in the former article have been applied; that the Commissioners might have a true state of it, I chose to insert a short Account of it in my letter to them. If I did this voluntarily, out of du'y to the public, I hope I shall be thought to have given you information upon a certain belief, and I was altogether blameless in the part 1 have had in it. — It will be necessary that 1 trouble the House with on Account of the time and occasion whence this payment of per cent, by the foreign troops, commenced. — During the last war, the allowances by parliament for the contingencies, of the army, of which that of secret service is the principal, was, 50,000l. per ann. But this allowance fell so fur short of the ex pence on that head, that upon the prospect of this war’s hreaking out, the late king assured him, that this last part of the service never cost him less than 70,000l. per ann. However, the allowance of parliament for the whole contingent service, during this war, has been but 10,000l. per aunum, 3,000l. of which, or thereabouts, has generally gone for other contingencies, than that of intelligence. The late king, being unwilling to come to parliament fur more money, on that head of the service, proposed this allowance from the foreign troops, as an expedient to assist that part of the service, and commanded me to make the proposition to them; which I did accordingly, -and it was readily consented to. By this means anew fund of a bout 15,000l. per. annum J0&3] PARL. HIST. 10 Arne, 1712. — The Duke security had passed there for it. — Whereas, it was paid on the receipt of a private agent, and at the request of private persons, for so we must take leave to call the' noble lords who signed these two letters to the earl of Godolphin, because they could not sign them as Lords of the Treasury; for, the earl of Marr was never in this commission, and the earl of London had for some time been removed from it. " However, since the Loan was made (as appears by the Depositions on all hands) it is to be considered, whether the money was ever repaid; and this cannot be so well understood, as by computing the evidence of the two noble lords. " First, then, the earl of Glasgow deposes in positive and express terms, That 12, 325/. was paid back to the earl of Godolphin; and, in a letter to your Commissioners, he affirms, that he had already accounted with the earl of Godolphin for the money remitted, from the 1st of May, 1706, to the 1st of May, 1707, from England to Scotland; which evidence, must be allowed, would at least have been sufficient to charge the earl of Godolphin, with the article of 12, 325/. had it not (in some measure) been contradicted by the earl of Godolphin’s first deposition, wherein, his lordship is so far from charging himself with the receipt of that particular sum, or with passing any account with the earl of Glasgow for the whole, that he could not recollect, that any part of it was repaid; but says, that be understood, it was to be ei% * 1115] ployed for her majesty's secret service in Scotland, nor is this variation reconciled, in your Commissioners’ humble opinion, either by his lordship’s Letter or subsequent Deposition. " For though his lordship recollects himself in his letter, and says, That he believes 12,000l. or thereabouts was repaid to the queen by her majesty’s servants in Scotland, and, to the best of his remembrance, they prevailed with her majesty not to require the remainder of the 20,000l. and that when lie said, he understood the money was for secret service in Scotland, he meant, that he thought so, but was not certain of it; yet that does, in no sort, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nces apprehended from doing too much, or too little; or whether the benefit proposed by each party to themselves, from the service of their writers, towards recovering or preserving of power, be thought to outweigh the disadvantages. However it came about, this affair was put off from one week to another, and the bill not brought into the house till the 8th of June. It was committed three days, and then heard of no more. In this bill there was a clause inserted, (whether industriously with a design to overthrow it) that the author’s name, and place.of abode, should be set to every printed book, pamphlet, or paper; which I believe no man, who hath the least regard to learning, would give his consent to: for, besides the objection to this clause from the practice of pious men, who, in publishing excellent writings for the service of religion, have chosen out of an humble Christian spirit, to conceal their names; it is certain, that all persons of true genius or knowledge have an invincible modesty and suspicion of themselves, upon their first sending their thoughts into the world; and that those who are dull or superficial, void of all taste and judgment, have dispositions directly contrary; so that if this clause had made part of a law, there would have been an end, in all likelihood, of any valuable production for the future, either in wit or learning: and that insufferable race of stupid people, who are now every day loading the Press, would then reign alone, in time destroy our very first principles of reason, and introduce barbarity amongst us, which is already kept out with so much difficulty by so few hands." Swift’s Four Last Yean. pending bill seems to be contrary to the present constitution of our Church, so well secured by the treaty of Union, and solemnly ratified by acts of parliament in both kingdoms. That this may be more clear, it is to be observed, that, fiom the first reformation from popery, the church of Scotland hath always reckoned Patronages a grievance and burden, as is de-claied by the first and second books of discipline, published soon after the said Reformation, since which time they were still judged a grievance, till at length they came by law to be abolished. 11 These Patronages having been restored with Episcopacy, in the year 1661 and 1662, did continue to the year 1690: That Episcopacy was abolished, And presbyterian church government again established; and though the act of parliament in 1690, resettling presbyterian church-government, was founded upon the act of parliament in 1692, which bears a relation unto Patronages, yet the said act of parliament in 1690, doth expressly except that part of the old act, nnd refer Patronages to be thereafter considered, which accordingly was considered in the same parliament in 1690, whereby it is plain, that the abolition of Patronages was made a part of our church-constitution, enacted by the act in 1690, and that this act in 1690, with all other acts relative thereto, being expressly ratified and for ever confirmed hythe act for securing the Protestant Religion and Presbyterian government, and engrossed as an essential condition of the ratifications of the treaty of Union past in the parliaments of both kingdoms; the aaid act abolishing Patronages must he understood to be apart of our Presbyterian constitution, secured to os by the treaty of Union lor ever. " Yet it is to be particularly considered, that the same parliament in 1690 was so tender of the civil rights of Patrons, and so sincerely desirous only to restore the Church to its just and primitive liberty of calling ministers, in a way agreeable to the Word of God, that they only discharged the Patron’s power of presenting ministers to vacant churches, but as to any thing of civil rights, did make the condition of Patrons better than before, not only by reserving unto them the right of disposal of vacant .Stipends for pious uses within the Parocb, but also giving unto them the heretable rights of the Tythes, restricting the minister, who formerly had the said right to Stipends, much below the value of the said Tythes, notwithstanding which advantageous concession to t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ur majesty’s occasions, will enable your majesty to put an end to the present war by safe and honourable peace." There being no account come of any peace, as soon as the Commons were returned to their House, Mr. Benson, now flung away the mask which he lately pulled off, like one who had no other view but that of vengeance against the queen and her friends, acted consistently enough with his design, by voting as a lord against the Bill, after lie had directed his* son in the House of Commons to vote for the tack. " Thus miscarried this popular Bill for appointing Commissioners into Royal Grants; but whether those chiefly concerned did rightly consult their own interest hath been made a question, which perhaps time will resolve. It was agreed that the queen by her own authority, might have issued out a commission for such an enquiry, and every body believed that the intention of the parliament was only to tax the grants with about three years purchase, and at the same time establish the proprietors in possession of the remainder for ever; so tkat, upon the whole, the grantees would have been great gainers by such an act, since the titles of those lands, as they stood then, were hardly of half value \vith others either lor sale or settlement. Besides the examples of the Irish forfeitures might have taught these precarious owners, that when the House of Commons hath once engaged in a pursuit which they think is right, although it he stopped or suspended for a while, they will be sure to renew it upon every opportunity that offers, and seldom fail of success: for instance, if the resumption should happen to be made part of a supply, which can be easily done without the objection ofa tack, the gran tees might possibly then have much harder conditions given them; and I do not see how they 'could prevent it. Whether the resuming of Royal Grants be consistent with good policy or justice would be too long a disquisition: besides, the profusion of kings is not like to be a grievance for the future, because there have been laws since made to provide against that evil, or indeed rather because the crown has nothing left to give away. But the objection made against the date of the intended enquiry was invidious and trifling; for kmg James 2, made very few grants:he was better manager, and squandering was 1712 . — Stateof the Campaign. [1184 Chanctllor of the Exchequer, afterwards lord Bingley, moved, that the call of the Housa (which had been several times put off) might he adjourned to the 4th of June, when he did not doubt but the queen would lay before them the result of the present negociations. Mr. Hampden complained, saying, %i Notwithstanding all the promises given from tima to time to the Commons, we have an unactive and lazy campaign, and a trifling negocia(ion of peace; so that we are amused by our ministers at home, and tricked by our enemies abroad." ' Mr. Secretary St. John had too great a share in the management of affuirs not to resent these insinuations; and said 'yith some emotion, " That they highly reflected on her majesty, and her ministers. But though some members had been sent to the Tower for less none of his faults; whereas the late king, who came over here a perfect stranger to our laws and to our people, regardless of posterity, wherein he was not likely to survive, thought he could no way better strengthen a new title than by purchasing friends at the expence of everything which wasin his power to part with. " The reasonableness of uniting to a Money Bill one of a different nature, which is usually called tacking, hath been likewise much debated and will admit of argument enough. In antieot times when a parliament was held, the Commons first proposed their grievances to be redressed, and then gave their aids; so that it was a perfect bargain between the king and the subject. This fully answered the ends of tacking. Aids were then demanded upon occasions which would hardly pass at present; such for instance, as those for making the king’s son a knight, marrying his eldest daughter, and some others of the like sort. Most of the motley went into the king’s coffers for his private use; neither was he accountable for any part of it. Hence arose the form of the king's thanking his subjects for their benevolence, when any subsidies, tenths, or fifteenths, were given him: but the supplies now granted are of another nature and cannot be properly called a particular benefit to the crown, because they are all appropriated to their several uses:so that when the House of Commons tack to a Money-Bill what is foreign and hard to be digested, if it be not passed, they put themselves and their country in as great didiculties as the prince. On the other side, there have been several regulations made through the course of time, in parliamentary proceedings; among which it is grown a rule, that a bill once rejected shall not be brought up again the same session; whereby the Commons seem to have lost the advantage of purchasing a redress of their grievances by granting supplies, which upon some emergencies, hath put them upon this expedient of tacking:so that these is more to be said on each side of the case, thnn is convenient for me to trouble the reader or myself in deducing." Swift’s Four Last Years. 1135] PARL. HISTORY, 11 Anne, offehces, and that he, who spokelast, might be fond of that honour, yet he hoped the House would be of another opinion.’ * Sir Richard Onslow replied, " That to suppose her majesty, or her ministers to have any influence on the deliberations of that House, was injurious to her majesty, and a violation of the privileges of that House." In which he was seconded by Mr. Lechmere. But the debate went no further, in consideration, as the friends of the prevailing party suggested, that, the session drawing to an end, the commitment of a member at that time would rather be a pride than a mortification to him. And so, according to the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the call of the House was put off till the 4th of June. May 28. Mr. Pulteney moved, That an humble Address be presented to her majesty, That her faithful Commons arejustly alarmed at the intelligences received from abroad, that her general in Flanders has declined to act offensively against France, in concurrence with her Allies; and being under the deepest concern for the dangerous consequences which must arise from thence to the common cause, do with all humility beseech her majesty, that speedy instructions may be given to her General in Flanders, to prosecute the War with the ut- most vigour, in conjunction with her Allies, as the best means to obtain a safe and honourable peace for her majesty, and all of them; and to quiet the'minds of toe people, whocannotbut be extremely apprehensive of the fatal consequences of such a division." But after a debate, in which Mr. Secretary gave assurances much to the same purpose as the Lord High-Treasurer had done in the House of Lords, the motion being formed into question, an ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- st part of those in her majesty's pay, would he under no discipline, the public money squandered without any method or rule of payment, and all the ends of these acts entirely defeated. A further proof of the irregularity of this practice is, that when it was judged proper to allow a man per company on the muster-rolls, for maintenance of officers poor widows; the queen was itn-powered by a particular clause to give such orders to the several commissaries. Which supposes the crown could not otherwise have legally done it in a case that must be confessed to be of great encouragement to the service. If then the crown could not dispeuse with any part of these laws, your commissioners conceive so notorious and open an infraction of them will never be indulged or justitied in others, on any pretence whatsoever. " This practice was unnecessary, as well as illegal. For all the pretended uses of it might have been effectually and regularly answered by respites, if they had been made in the manner prescribed by the acts. But that having never been done during this practice, the commissaries have so lung beep useless; the officers made the only checques on themselves with respect to the effectives: the crown deprived of the right of disposing of the money raised by respites, and that power transferred to the general. But it has also been an occasion of great expence to the public, and a detriment to the service. The Paymaster-general (as he urges in apology for himself) was under an obligation of paying and renutting more money, than was sufficient for eanying on the service. For the troops being mustered compleat, and the muster-rolls being his only guide, he was constrained to make his payments full, though he had reason to believe the troops were at the same time not above half complete, particularly those in the more remote parts. " The earl of Godolphin, when lord-treasurer, ordered him in 1707, to present this method of mustering and paying the troops complete, as a grievance to the earl of Galway (general in Spain and Portugal) and he accordingly did it in very pressing terms, as occasioning great losses to the public. " We are unable to explain how it came to be continued after so just a Remonstrance against it; no reason appearing to us, why those in the treasury should retract their opinion of the great losses occasioned by it. For the earl of Galway’s return to Mr. Bridges's representation, is no answer to the objections, but a confirmation of the truth of them. So little regard was afterwards had to this complaint, that in the year 1709, on raising six regiments of dragoons in Portugal, the earl of Galway issued warrants to the respective colonels of those regiments to reduce each troop to 31 private men; and that, having that number on the spot, they should pass as complete, though by the establishment they were to consist of 45. On a computation of the pay for the 14 men per troop from the 24th of August 1709, (which was the time when these regiments were placed on the establishments lot Portugal) to the 9th of July 1711, there appears the sum of 25, 983/. to have been suuk, or misapplied, by virtue of this warrant. After the earl of Galway left the service, this method of mustering the troops complete, was pursued by all the succeeding generals in those parts, oil her majesty, highly sensible of the evil consequence of it, and apprehending the expence of the Spanish war would thereby become insupportable to her subjects, was graciously pleased in 1711, to send instructions to the deputy paymasters there to pay none but effectives: and then the inconveniences of it, which bad been so long submitted to, were owned and represented in their full light. But the whole matter will be best explained by the Letters, Answers, and Memorials of the generals and paymasters, and we are prepared to present attested copies thereof, when the House should he pleased to oall for them; together with the most material depositions relating to every ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s particular, because they arc yhry notorious. , " There is a pretence of mustering in Scotland, but the Rolls have always been returned complete, and by the acknowledgment on oath of several officers belonging to the regiments of dragoons there, and of Mr. John Campbell, late contractor for providing forage, the troops have ever since the Union been generally six or sfeven less than their complements besides the officers servantsj and two hautboys returned in each troop, whenever any were mustered, except a few in general Echlin’s regiment, and that for a short time only. This is confirmed by the oath of Mr. Rutherford, in whose name the commission of muster-master was issued, dated the 20th of July nO0, and who executed that office; but by an agreement with one Mr. Elliot, a laceman in York-buildings, (for whose use this commission was obtained) tie was to receive only 6s. 8 d.out of the 20s. per day, payable to the commissary by the establishment, and was also obliged to give to Mr. Elliot the perquisites of 2 guineas per troop, and 10s. per company allowed by them on $ach muster. Your commissioners therefore are not surprised to find that the public hath suffered by false musters in Scotland, when the office of muster-master was given to a person unqualified for it, and he employed a deputy (for Mr. Rutherford owns he was no more, though named in the commission) on so hard terms. Besides, Mr. Elliot was at that time agent to the earl of ilindford’s regiment; an office not consistent, we apprehend, with that of muster-master. The ill consequences of these false musters, appear likewise in the unnecessary expence of forage for the dragoon horses. For they were very defective, as well as the men, and the certificates from the officers io the contractors, were also complete. Mr, Cochran confesses, that when he was contractor, he received the queen’s bounty-money for near 300 horses mote, than he provided with forage. , " The Management of the Hospitals is another grievance of the Army, and we therefore lay before you such informations, as we have •received, of the excessive charge in furnishing provisions for them, particularly those in Spain, together with the hardships the sick men there have endured, by the scarcity and unwhole-aomeness of the provisions, and by the great frauds of the persons, who provided beds, medicines and other contingencies for them. Dr. La Canedeposed, thathe attended the hospitals an Spain for some time; that he, observing the •accounts of Mr. Marks, the director, to be very extravagant, refused to sigu them, which as ^physician he was required to do; that during the 3 years Marks continued director, each sick man cost the public 2$. 6d. a day, besides 5 d.deducted from the regiments: That Marks allowed the recovering men (which were generally one half) only 5 d.per day to provide for themselves, and charged to the government 2s. 6d. for each of those men; that this management continued from the year 1706 to June 1709, when Marks was dismissed. These Hospitals were, for the years 1706, 7, and 8, paid out of the poundage of the army, being principally intended for Chelsea College, a great debt and expence hath arisen on that head. In June 1709, a contract was made with Dr. La Cane at 10 d.per head from the government and 5rf. per head from the regiments. This contract continued above a year, during which time the inen were very well supplied, as is {jroved to us, by the oaths of M. Durette ebap-ain, and Mr. Hay chirurgeon to the Hospital, though provisions were as dear as when Marks furnished them. By Comparing the rates of this contract, with those allowed to Marks, it is plain, that the provisions for one half of (1m men cost the public more than double what it might have been furnished for, and that for the other half the public paid six parts in seven more than the sick received. uAs to the Scarcity and UnwhoTesomtness of the provisions furnished by Marks, not only Dr. La Cane, physician, but Mr. Chi ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scots members represented, That the tax of 6d. per bushel of malt would be an insupportable burden to their countrymen, by reason of the vast disproportion between the English and Scots malt, both in goodness and price; almost double the quautity of Scots malt, going to che making drink of equal strength w ith that made of English malt; and the bushel of malt which in London was sold for 3s. 3 not bearing above the third part of that price in Scotland. Upon this and other considerations, the Committee were induced to reduce the Malt-Tax in Scotland to 3d. per bushel; but when this Amendment was the next day, together with the other Amendments, reported to the house, the members of the northern counties of England, and the principality of Wales, having for the same reasons alledged by the Scots, msisted on the like abatement of the duty on malt, it was ordered, that the Amendment, and the subsequent Amendments be recommitted. May 20. The Commons in a grand committee, considered farther of the Malt-bill, snade several Amendments to it; and, notwithstanding all the opposition the Meets and their friends could make, it was carried by one single vote only. That the tax on malt should be laid equally in ull parts of Great-Britain. On the 21st those Amendments wore reported to the house, and it was agnin proposed that the Scots Mult should pay but half tl>e duty, but it was again carried by a majority of 139 voices against 104 that the Bill, with the Amendments, be engrossed. May 22. The engrossed bill was read the Sd time, and passed by a majority of 197 against 32, to the great disappointment of the Scots. The Scots Members both Houses hold several private Meetings. | The endeavours of the Sco; s members in the House of Commons for easing their countrymen of part of the Malt-Tax, having proved ineffectual, they had several private meetings with the Scow peers sitting in parliament; and, laying aside all invidious distinctions, consulted together how to redress their Grievances. On the 26th of May they deputed four of their number, viz. the duke of Argyle, the earl of Marr, Mr. Lockhart, and Mr. Cockburn, who, by their order, attended the queen, and by word of mouth, humbly remonstiated to her majesty, Thut their countrymen bore with great impatience the violation of some A moles of the Act of Union, and that the laying such an insupportable burden as the Mult-Tax upon them, was like to raise their discontents to such a height, as to prompt them to declare the Union dissolved." To this unexpected verbal reniori stranee, the queen answered, " This was a precipitate resolution, and she wished they might not have reason to repent it; hut, however, she would endeavour to make nil things eusy." The Scots members being met again the next day, and their Deputies having made their report of her majesty’s Answer, it was unanimously agreed, That, before they proceeded further, they should lay their Grievances before the House of Lords. Debate in the Lords on a Motion for dissolving the Union.J Accordingly, on the 2ttib of May, after the Lords had adjourned the' Debate about the 8th and 9th Articles of (be. Treaty of Commerce, the earl of Fiolater made a motion in the House of Peers, That some day might be appointed to consider the State of the Nation; whereupon the Lords appointed the 1st of June, when all the lords in town were summoned. Between one and two, the debate began, opened by The Earl of Fmlater, who represented the Grievances of the Scotish nation, which be reduced to four heads, viz. 1. Their being deprived of a privy-council. 2. The laws of England, in cases of treason, extended to Scotland. 3. The Scots peers being incapable of being made peers of Great-Britain, as it was adjudged and declared in the case of the late duke of Hamilton. And 4. The Scots being subjected to the Malt-tax, which would be the more unsupportable to them now, in that they never bore it during the war, and had reason to reap and enjoy the benefits of Peace: concluding, That, since the Union between the two nations had not those good effects as were expected and hoped from it, when it was made, he therefore moved, That leave might be given to bring in a Bill for dissolving the said Uuiod, and securing the Protestant Succession in the house of Iluoover, the queen’s prerogative in both kingdoms, and preserving an entire unity and good correspondence between the two kingdoms. This motion was seconded by the eail of Marr, and opposed by. The Lord North ’and who in a long speech, endeavoured to shew that the complaints of the Scots were groundless, and the dissolving of the Union impracticable, not without some reflections on the poverty of the Scotish nation. The Lord Eglington allowed tl»e Scotish nation to be poor, and therefore unable to pay the Malt-tax. The Lord North and Grey replied to him, insisting, Thut it was nothing but what was agreed by the Treaty of the Union; the 11th article of which imported, that Scotland slmuld not be charged with any Imposition on malt during the war only, which uow was at an end. The Earl of Isla confessed there was such a clause; but that the same Article imported, That seeing it could not be supposed, that the parliament of Great-Britain would ever lay any sorts of burdens upon the united kingdom, but what they should find of necessity, at that time, for the preservation and good of the whole, and with due regard to circumstances, and abilities of every part of the un ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- curing the Protestant Succession; but that he was satisfied that might he done as well now, if the Union were dissolved. That he spoke as a peer of England, as well os of Scotland: that he believed in his conscience, it was as much for the interest of England as of Scotland to have it dissolved; and ifit were not, he did not expect long to have either property left in Scotland, or liberty in England. He urged, that the tax upon Malt in Scotland was as unequal (though the same as in England) as taxing land by the acre, which would be very unjust, the land being worth 5 or 6l. per acre, here about London, and not so many shillings in some parts of the country. That this was the VOL. VI. case between the Scots and the English Malt; the latter being worth 3 or 4s. the bushel, the other not above 1*.; so that if tltis tux were collected in Scotland, it must be done by a regiment of dragoons." Some other Scotidi Peers said, " That the end of the Union was the cultivating an amity and friendship between the two nations, but it was so far from having that edict, that they were sure the animosities between the two nations, were much greater now than before the Uuioii. That it might easily be proved by many instances, that soutcpersons agreed better when they were asunder, than when together; and for that reason they believed, if the Union were dissolved again, the two nations would be like to Le better friends." * The Lord Chief Justice Trevor made a ve« hetnem speech against it, as a thing hardly to be dune. The Lord Treasurer (Oxford) said, " That the Earl ut Seufieid’s motion w as no less strange than unexpected; that the Union being made by two distinct parliaments of both kingdoms, he did not see how it could be dissolved, now the two nations were m different circumstances from what they were in when it was made; because the power that made it was no more in being; and nothing could make it void, but the power that created it: concluding, that if the Scots had any. grievance to complain of there might be some other method thought to redress them, without proceeding to that extraordinary way of dissolving the Union, which had been tnude in so solemn a maimer, and brought about with so much difficulty at last, after so many fruitless attempts before." The Earl of Nottingham represented the advantages of the Union, if the views with which it was made, had been steadily pursued. He added, " That though the two nations were now in other circumstances than when the Union was made, yet the same power that was in the two parliaments when they were separated and distinct, was lodged in them, now they were consolidated, and therefore if they had power to make it, they certainly had to dissolve it: and that lie knew not any tiling but what the parliament could do, except destroying the present constitution, which he owned they had no power to do. That the inconveniencies that had attended the Union could not be foreseen till the trial was made: and since the Scots, who were the best judges of the affairs of their kingdom, found tluu it did not answer the euds proposed, lie was lor dissolving it." The Earl of Sunriet land said to the same purpose, * That though he had a hand in making the Union, yet if it had not that good effect which was expected from it, he was likewise for dissolving it." The Lord Viscount Townshend said, He was of the same opinion; provided, nevertheless, means could be found to secure the Protestant Succession, and therefore desired to know what security the Scots could give for 41 PAUL. HIST. 12 An jib, 1\i. — Dtbait concerning tht [I39U that essential point, before they proceeded any further." To this some of the Scotish Lords replied, " That would appear when the bill was brought in; that then it was a proper time to shew what security they could giveand therefore moved that the question might be put immediately, Whether a bill should be brought in or not ? * The Earl of Nottingham desired, that another day might ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- heathen nations valueJ themselves upon their fidelity, in a punctual observing of all their treaties, and with bow much infamy they branded the violation of them; if we consider that which revealed religion teaches os to know, that man was made after the image of God, the God of all truth, as we know who is the father of lies; God hates the deceitful man, in whose mouth there is no faithfulness/ In that less perfect religion of the Jews, when the Gi-beonites had, by a fraudulent proceeding, drawn Joshua and the Israelites into a league with them; it was sacredly observed; and the violation of it, some ages after, was severely punished. And, when the last of the kings of Judah shook off the fidelity, to which he had bound himself to the king of Babylon, the prophet thereupon said with indignation, Shall ne break the oath of God, and prosper ?’ The swearing deceitfully is one of the worst characters; and He who swears to his own hurt, and changes not, is among the best. It is a maxim of the wisest of kings, that, ‘ the throne is established in righteousness/ Treaties are of the nature of oaths; and, when an oath is asked to confirm a treaty, it is never denied. The best account that I can give of the disuse of adding that sacred seal to treaties is this. " The Popes had for some ages possessed themselves of A power, to which they had often recourse, of dissolving the faith of treaties, and the obligation of oaths; the famous but fatal story of Ladislaus, king of Hungary; breaking his faith to Amurath the Turk by virtue of a fiapal dispensation, is well known. One of the ast public acts of this sort, was when pope Clement the seventh absolved Francis the first from the treaty made and sworn to at Madrid while he was a prisoner there:the severe revenge that Charles the fifth took of this, in the sack of Home, and in keeping that pope for •ome months a prisoner, has made popes more eautious since that time, than they were fu- ll 13. — Debts of the Civil . [12tS in a particular manner she lies under by the Debts contracted in her civil government, occasioned by several extraordinary expeoces formerly incurred; so that her majesty thinks herself obliged in justice to many creditors, to order an Estimate to be laid before this Homs merly:this also drew such heavy but just reproaches, on the papacy, from the reformers, that some stop seems now to be put to such barefaced protection of perjury. But the late king told me, that he understood from the German protestant princes, that they believed the confessors of popish princes had faculties fromRome for doing this as effectually, though more secretly:he added, that they knew it went for a maxim among popish princes, that their word and faith bound iheua as they were men, and members of society; but that their oaths, being acts of religion, were subject to the direction of their confessors; and that they, apprehending this, did in all their treaties with the prioces of that religion, depend upon their _ honour, bat never asked the confirmation of an oath, which had been the practice of former ages. Tb« protestants of France thought they had gained an additional security, for observing the edict of Nantes, when the swearing to observe it was made a part of the coronation oath; but it is probable, this very thing undermined and ruined it. " Grotius, Puffendorf, and others who hare wrote of the law of nations, lay this down for a rule, that the nature of a treaty, and the tie that arises out of it, is not altered by the haring, or not having an oath; the oath serves only to heighten the obligation. They do also agree ia this, that confederacies do not bind states, to carry on a war to their utter ruin; but, that princes and states are bound to use their utmost efforts in maintaining them: and it is agreed by all, who have treated of these Blatters, that the common enemy, by offering to any one confederate all his pretensions, cannot justify his departing from the confederacy; because it was entered ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- re affected with the deepest sorrow; .and a general panic ran through the whole kingdom. For a long time, we were distracted and inconsolable; in the utmost horror and confusion, upon the loss of oui most excellent queen, Hio then became immortal: hut these black clouds were soon dispersed, our fears and jealousies vanished, and we revived from a deplorable state of grief and misery, at the first joyful tidings of the happy accession of her most sacred majesty queen Anne the second (whom God long preserve) to the throne of her ancestors: the nature of our monarchy being such, that, immediately after the death of the person iu possession, the crown, by right of inheritance, descends to the next heir, without any previous formalities and conditions, or admitting so much as the least vacancy, or interregnum, fcc."’I which various accounts were spread abroad; but the truth was thus, as represented by Dr. Shadwell, in his letters to the duke aod duchess of Shrewsbury:On Wednesday the 23d of December, her majesty was very uneasy all night with the gout in her foot. The next morning it went intirely off, and she said she was well. But, about one o’clock that day, she complained of a pain in her thigh, and was seized with u violent shivering, which lasted above two hours. Extreme heal followed, with intense thirst, great restlessness, anxiety, and inquietude. The pulse was full, hard, and quick; which Dr. Shadwell finding, the next day, he very much pressed bleeding, urging, it would probably carry off’ a good pait of the fever, and bring a fit of the gout; but it was not agreed to; and these symptoms continued till Saturday morning, when her majesty fell asleep, waked refreshed, and on Sunday morning there was a perfect intermission of the symptoms; hut the pulse, in Dr. Sliadwell’s opinion, was not quiet. The next night about twelve, she was attacked with cn exacerbation of the fever, which lasted all the Monday till midnight. Most of the queen’s physicians judging her distemper to be an ague, proposed and pressed the giving her the jesuit’s hark; but, though this was warmly opposed by Dr. Shadwell, yet the physician, who watched that night, gave it, saying, he found the pulse calm. No exacerbation appeared after this:but nevertheless Dr. Shadwell still declared, he did not like the pulse: that there was no perfect intermission of the fever; hut that the pulse was at work, to separate the morbific matter into the gout, or some worse shape. The pains of the thigh increasing, till three or four doses of the bark were given, Dr. Shadwell laid a stress upon having that part examined; hut the other physicians called it n fit of the gout. Dr. Shadwell answered, it could not properly be called so in the muscles; and being ot opuuon, that this was an inflammatory fever front the translation of the gout, and not a common ague, or intermitting fever; and finding, that, after thirty-nine hours continuance, there was a perfect remission, but no intermission, he made a prognostic, that, unless the feverish matter were separated, and thrown off into a smart fit of the gout, a worse symptom might happen; as its falling into the thigh, and fixing into an erysepelous tumour. This opinion was justified by a severe fit of the gout, that came upon her majesty a few days after, and gave sonic hopes of her intire recovery. " While the queen was in this uncertain state of health, the minds of the several parties were variously agitated. The friends of the Pretender believed, that all things were preparing for his restoration; and, on t^e other liand, the alarm of the well affected to the Hanover Succession was not a little increased upon the news, that a squadron of 14 tnen of war was fitting out in the ports of France; and that they were to take on board 12 or 14,000 land-men. The public funds fell gradually 1241] PARL. HISTORY, 12 Anne, 1714. — Meeting of the New Parliament. . [1242 from the beginning till the end of January; when such a panic seized on a s ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s, sir, the author 1 am now mentioning has dooe, without being called to account for any reflection ‘ tending to sedition, highly re- fleeting upon her majesty, and arraigning her administration and government.’ In the opinion of the world he has not only done all tbi>. with impunity, but with encouragement. It is chiefly in answer to this author, that those papers were written which are now upon your table. I could not see without indignation an endeavour set on f'>ot to confound truth with falshood, and to turn the whole history of the present tunes into a lie. I thought I might act with the same safety in ▼indicating, as he did in attacking the reputation of several innocent persons, who are unblemished every where but in his papers; and of many honourable persons, who by all sides are allowed to have deserved well of their country. And now, sir, let every Hiitish gentleman lay his hand upon his heart, and ask himself, Whether it was possible for a man of any spirit to have received those private and personal injuries which 1 have here mentioned, or for any honest man to have seen others so barbarously treated, without giving some loose to his resentments. Sii, a good name is as dear to me as it can be to (he greatest man in England; and whoever employs all his artifices to make me appear vile and infamous, cannot be angry with me if I lay hold on what 1 think defective in his own character and behaviour, to expose it in the same manner. I am sure no man of honour, and it is my happiness that this assembly is composed of no other, would make such a sacrifice of himself to any, the most powerful of his fellow subjects. I know no law of God or man that requires this kind of resignation or self-denial. 441 have been the longer upon this head, to shew gentlemen that this great alTair which is now laid before them, has been hitherto, notwithstanding the many insolencies I have now recited against the greatest persons in Church and State, ouly a paper war between two private persons; and they must have but a mean opinion of the dignity of a British House of Commons, who think they will make themselves parties in either side of it. Besides, I have another reason for opening my Defence in this manner, because 1 find that the fir9t Paragraph which is laid to my charge, can 171 1. — Mr. Steele’sApology. [1292 accuse me of nothing else but of shewing m disrespect to the Examiner. Here follows, as it is marked against me, what 1 say in the Englishman, Number 46. 4 But there is still a circumstance in the same paper of the Examiner’s that may have 4 a consequence yet more immediately pernicious, and that is the last sentence of it; 4 4 Since her majesty is to be the last, we hope they will be obliged to own her for the greatest and wisest of the Stuarts/ I cannot but think this expression uttered as lamenting in favour of a pretended Stuart, in whose behalf he sighs, and says, Since her majesty is to be tire last. The natural way of speaking his sense, in a man who was in the interest of his country, had been to say, as her majesty ‘ without issue is to he the last. But whe- ther his inclinations be for the Pretender or not, I am sure he promotes his service in a 4 very great degree, when he endeavours to visity that House of Commons which is now laying a price upon his head. — But let the rest of the world do what they please, and delay their protestations against these evils as long as they think fit, I will postpone all else that is dear to me to the love of my country: 4 and as this is, and I trust in Providence will be ray strongest passion to my life’s end, I 4 will, while it is yet day, profess, and publish the rules by which 1 govern my judgment of men and things in the present conjuncture. — 4 Does this action bespeak such a one a wise man if he is fur the Pretender, a madman if he is for the house of Hanover ? — Does this position open a w*ay to the Pretender ? Or, 4 does it further secure the Protestant Succession ? — These are iny ques ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t, * which nothing bat our own pusillanimity can ‘make desperate. The most destructive cir-‘ cutmtance in our affairs seems to be, that by * the long and repeated insinuations of our ‘ enemies, many are worn into a bind of doubt ‘of their own cau-e, and think with patience of ‘ what is suggested in favour of contrary pre-‘ tensions. The most obvious method of reviving the proper sentiments in the minds of ‘ men, for what they ought to csteetn most * dear, is to shew that our cause has in it all ‘the sanctions of honour, truth, and justice; ‘ and that we are, by all the laws of (-Jod and * man, Instated in a condition of enjoying reli-‘ gion, life, liberty and property, rescued from * the most imminent danger of having them all ‘ for ever depend upon the arbitrary power of a * popish prince. ’ " I must here beg leave, Sir, to read the two or three following lines which are not marked, because they explain this latter part of this last paragraph, aod show to whom these words are applied, where it is said, That we are by all ‘ the laws of God and man, instated in a con-‘ dition of enjoying religion, life, liberty, and property, rescued from the most imminent * danger of having them all for ever depend * upon the arbitrary power of a popish prince.* The following paragraph, which determines these words, runs thus: ‘ We should have been chained down in this * abject condition, in the reign of the late ‘ king James, had not God Almighty in mercy * given us the late happy Revolution, by that ‘ glorious instrument of his providence the great ' and memorable king William. * * ' And now, Sir, can any one say, that w'e were not instated in a condition of enjoying religion, life, liberty, and property, by the late happy Revolution ? Or that we were not before in the inost imminent danger of having them all depend upon the arbitrary power of a popish prince ? I appeal to the acts of parliament quoted in this book; and might appeal, as I am told, to a report of the grievances of tins kingdom, under the reign of king James 2, made to this House by Paul Foley, esq.* father to the gentleman who has so remarkably distinguished himself against me this day. This report, as I am told, explains by a multitude of instances, drawn up in the strongest terms, the several particulars which I have here just touched upon. If the House thinks fit that I should in this place have the assistance of the father against the son, I will desire that that report may now be read:Or, if that be not thought fit, shall go on with my defence. " And here, Sir, I think I may save you a great deal of time, by laying down a general rule which every one will agree, ought to take place in the perusal of any writing. That * " In this Mr. Steele was misinformed, for there did not upon examination appear any such circumstance of Paul Foley, esq. but he #as a very worthy man, though father to this •quire Thomas." IT 14.-i-AJr. Stab?* Apology, (199# which I shall insist on is this; that if an author's words, in the obvious and natural interpretation of them, have a meaning which is innocent, they cannot without great injustice he condemned of another meaning which is criminal. If the same expression may be applied to different persons, and according to such application may be construed in my favour or to my prejudice, why should my words be applied to hurt me, when they may more naturally be applied in such a manner as is no% capable of incurring censure ? Thus, Sir, when I mention in the paragraph I have just now read, The artful and open attacks of the ene- * mies of our constiiution, the enemies of our * present happy establishment, the terrors which ‘ are pronounced against those who dare un-‘ dertnine our liberties; * why must all these and the like expressions bt applied to a minister, when there are suth numbers of popish emissaries, jacobites and non-jurors, to whom these expressions by a natural and unforced Construction are very applicable ? Does not the su ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Particular Man ['particular man']; Particular Man ['particular man'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ccused member. * WU1 PARL. HISTORY, 15 Anne, 714. Sack’s [1311 4 tary Right, has published the will of king Heury the eighth, which seems to be intended as a pattern for the like occasion. 4 The conversion of the Pretender to our religion, has been occasionally reported, and contradicted, according to the reception it met with among the soft fools, who give that gross * story a hearing: The uuhipr.y prince, whose * son the Pretender calls hirnseU, is a rnemora* 4 ble instance, how much such conversions are to be depeuJed upon. King James, when duke of York, for a long time professed himself a 4 Protestant; and even not loug before his ao * cession to the crown, several persons bad ao- * tions brought against them for saying he was a pap:»t, and exorbitant damages given and 4 recovered; in a word, from the practice of all papists, that have come to protestant thrones, 4 upon p.eleuce of embracing the reformed religion. we have reason to believe they have * dispensations from Home to personate any thin.; , for the servh e of that church. A popish * prince will never ilnnk himself obliged by the * most solemn, even the coronation oath, to his Protestant subjects. All oaihs are as insig- mficxut and as soon forgotten, as the services * done by such Protestant subjects. — King 1 James, when duke of York, was preserved * from the hill of exclusion, by the church of England, and particularly its bishops; when he caiue to the crown, the church was soon insulted and outraged by him, and her prelates Committed to the Tower, lias not a neigh- ' 4 bouring prince cruelly treated and banished his Protestant subjects who preserved the crown on his head? Did not the princess Mary promise the men of Suffolk, who joined with her against the lady Jane Grey, that she would make no alteration in toe religion esta- btished by her brother king Edward the 6»h? 4 And yet as soon as she came to the crown, 4 by the assistance even of Suffolk men, she filled all England, and in a particular manner that county, with the flames ot martyrs. The 4 cruelties of that reign were such, that nmlti tudes of meo, women and children were burnt for being zealous professors of the gospel of * the Lord Jems. In short, nothing less than this can be expected from a popish prince; 4 both clergy and laity must share the same fate, all universally must submit to the fiery trial, or reuounce their religion. Our bishops f and clergy must all lose their spiritual prefer- menu, or submit to antichristian tyranny; 4 And should they submit to every thing they must notwithstanding part from their wives and children, which, according to the church of Home, are harlots and spurious. The 4 laity, possessed of lands that formerly belonged to the Roman Catholic clergy, must resign their estates, and perhaps be made accuunt- able for the profits received.--'What can be more moving, than to reflect upon the barbarous cruelties of papists beyond all exam- pie t And these not accidental, or the sudden effects of passion or provocation, but the set- tied result of thaii religion and their cornel- 4 ences. Above 100,000 men, women and children were murdered in the massacre of Ireland, How hot and terrible were the late persecutions of Protestants in France and Savoy ? How frequent were the massacre* of * the Protestants through the whole kingdom of France when they were under the protection of the then laws of that country? How bar * 4 barous, in a particular manner, was the tnas- aacre of Paris, at the marriage of the king of Navarre, the French king’* grandfather, s 4 Protestant, with the sister of Charles the 9th, 4 where the famous admiral of France, the great Coligny, the glorious asserter of the Protesuot interest, was inhumanly murdered, and the body of that hero dragged naked about the streets, and this by the direction of the king * himself, who had but just before most trtt * 1 clierously given him, from his own mootk, 4 assurance of his protection? Ten thousand Protestants without distinction of quality, age or sex, were put to the sword at tlse same time; the king of Navarre himself narrowly escaped the disaster, his mother the queen of Navarre having not loug before beeo poison * 4 ed by the same faction. These are some is * 4 stances of what must ever be expected. No 4 obligations on our side, no humanity or natu * 4 ral probity on theirs, are of any weight; 4 their very religion forces them, upon pain of damnation, to forget and cancel the former, 4 nnd to extinguish all remains of the latter. 4 Good God! To what are they reserved, who have nothing to expect but what such arch* 4 gion can afford them? It cannot therefore be too often repeated. We should consider, 4 over and over again, that should the ebaio of the Protestant Succession be once broke in upon, though the Pretender should be laid aside, the next of the blood royal is the duchess of Savoy, after her, her two sous; 4 after them, the present dauphin of Fraoce; 4 the next in succession to him, the queea of Spain, and her heirs; in default of them, the duke of Orleans, and his heirs, and roost of the other princes of the blood of France, all papists, who may be enabled to demand pre* 4 ference to the house of Hanover; so that be* 4 sides the probability of this kingdom’s being united to, and made a province of France, ibe train of popish princes is so great, that if one should not complete the utter extirpation of our religion, laws and li ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- , that it might be now read; and promised, that they should have full time afterwards allowed them to go upon other business." Notwithstanding this speech, it was moved, that, before the supply, the marquis of Tweedale’s Overture should be taken into consideration. Upon this the debate turned into a competition, whether the Act of Supply, or the Overture, shotild first take place? In behalf of the Overture, was urged the great importance of it; and in behalf of the Supply, the necessity of it, and thd commissioner's promise, that after the first reading of the supply-act, there should be time given for other business. To this a member answered, " That he had all the deference imaginable for the lord commissioner’s assurances, and doubted not l.ut the whole house had the saifte; but he doubted extremely, that his grace could be master of himself in that point. Who knows (added be) but that, after all his grate’s good purposes, the treasurer of England may cause to adjourn the house, when he shall think fit, notwithstanding all the assurances which the ministry can give. It is too well felt, that the influence of foreign counsels, from one corner of the world orother, have determined Scots affaire for these many years; and there is no appearance of discontinuing these practices." lie concluded, " That from the matter of this Overture might arise such settlements, as might make a Scots nation stand upon a Scots bottom:and therefore it was fit to prefer the consideration of it to any other business whatsoever." Another member urged, upon the point of the abrupt adjournment of the parliament, " That it must still be fresh in every man’s memory, that insults were made upon the sovereignty and independency of this nation, in the matter of their late trading company, both before their settlement iu Darien by the legal actings of the Scots parliament, and by (he scandalous memorials given in by the English resident at Hamburgh, most falsely represenung the Scots company as private persons, having no authority:as also, by the said resident's using threatening denunciations and expressions against the Hamburghers; if they should enter into any trading society with them: And likewise, after that company was settled iu Dahen, by their most barbarous and inhuman execution of some proclamations issued out against them. That, whether these most injurious stretches wore calculated really for the sake of an interest altogether foreign to this island, it was not proper here to dispute: but, that it was certain, that this had raised an insaperable jealousy in the Scots nation, 'which could not tail, some time or other, to break forth into consequences dangerous to both nations. And therefore he concurred with those noble and worthy members in promoting the Overtore, from which lie should expect, that some laws should be enacted towards regulating the administration and government at home, as rmsht deliver a Scot’s prince and ministry from foreign influence, and might thereby compost xvii] APPENDIX, N° I — those hurtful jealousies, in all times coming, to the mutual peace and quiet of the whole island." After several warm speeches and long debates, die house came to this resolve, That the parliament will proceed to make such acts, as are necessary or lit for securing our religion, liberty, and trade, before any act for supply, or any other business whatsoever/ Whereupon the marquis of Athol offered, an act for the security of the kingdom, in case of her majesty’s decease. Hut, before it was read, the duke of Argyle offered his act, ratifying the late revolution, and all the acts following thereupon; Mr. Fletcher, ofSalton, nn act, containing several limitations upon the succession, after the death of her majesty, and the heirs of her body; the earl of llothes, an act, that, after her majesty’s death, and failing heirs of her body, no person coining to the crown of Scotland, being at the same time king or queen of England, should, as king or queen of Scotland ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- our to represent, we may, so far as the vicissitude and uncertainty of human affairs will permit, be for many ages easy and happy. But if we despise or neglect this occasion, we have voted our perpetual dependance on another nation. If men conld always retain those just impressions of things they at some times have upon their minds, they would be much more steady in their actions. And as I may boldly say, that no man is to be found in this house, who «t some time or other has not had that just sense of the miserable condition to which this nation is reduced by a dependance upon the English court, I should demand no more but the like impressions at this time to pass all the limitations mentioned in the draught of an act I have already brought into this house; since they are not limitations upon any prince, who shall only be king of Scotland, nor do any way tend to separate us from England; but calculated merely to this end, that so long as we continue to be under the same prince with our neighbour nation, we may be free from the influence of English councils and ministers; that the nation may not be impoverished by an expensive attendance at court, and that the force and exercise of our government may be, as far as is possible, within ourselves. By which means, trade, manufactures, and husbandry will flourish, and the affairs of the nation be no longer neglected, as they have been hitherto. These are the ends to which all the limitations are directed, that English councils may not hinder the acts of our parliaments from receiving the royal assent: that we may not be engaged without our consent in the quarrels they may have with other nations; that they may not obstruct the meeting of our parliaments, nor interrupt their sitting; that we may not stand in need of posting to London for places and pensions, by which, whatever particular men may get, the uation must xxix] APPENDIX, N° \. — Parliament of Scotland [xxx always be a loser, nor apply for the remedies of oar grievances to a court, where for the most part none are to be had. On the contrary, if these conditions of government be enacted, our constitution will be amended, and our grievances be easily redressed by a due execution of our own laws, which to this day we have never been able to obtain. The best and wisest men in England will be glad to bear that these limitations are settled by us. For though the ambition of courtiers lead them to desire an uncontrolable power at any rate; yet wiser men will consider that when two nations live under the same prince, the condition of one cannot be made intolerable, but a separation must inevitably follow, which will be dangerous if not destructive to both. The senate of Rome wisely determined in the business of the Priver-nates, that all people would take hold of the first opportunity to free themselves from an uneasy condition; that no peace could be lasting, in which both parties did not find their account; and that no alliance was strong enough to keep two nations in amity, if the condition of either were made worse by it. For my own part, my lord Chancellor, before I will consent to continue in our present miserable and languishing condition after the decease of her majesty, and heirs of her body failing, I shall rather give my vote for a separation from England «t any rate. I hope no man who is now possessed of an office, will take umbrage at these conditions of government, though some of them teem to diminish, and others do entirely suppress the place he possesses: for besides the scandal of preferring a private interest before that of our country, these limitations are not to take place immediately. The Queen is yet young, and by the grace of God may live many years, I hope longer than all those she has placed in any trust; and should we not be nappy, if those who for the future may design to recommend themselves for any office, could not do it by any other way than the favour of this house, which they who appear for these conditions will deserve in a more eminent degree ? Would we rather court an English minister for a place than a parliament of Scotland? Are we afraid of being taken out of the bands of English courti ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- berties, and upon the xxxi] natter subjected this crown to the court of England:and are become so accustomed to depend on them, that we seem to doubt whether we shall lay hold of this happy opportunity to resume our freedom. If nothing else will move us, at least let us not act in opposition to the light of our own reason and con* science, which duily represents to us the ill constitution of our government; the low condition into which we are sunk, and the extreme poverty, distress, and misery of our people. Let us consider whether we will have the nation continue in these deplorable circumstances, and lose this opportunity of bringing freedom and plenty among us. Sure the heart of every honest man must bleed daily, to see the misery in which our commons and even mnny of our gentry live; which has no other cause but the ill constitution of our government, and mir bud government no other root, but our dependence upon the court of England. If our kings lived' among us, it would not be strange to 'find these limitations rejected. It is not the prerogative of a king of Scotland I would diminish, but the prerogative of English ministers over this nation. To conclude, these conditions of government bt-ing either such as our unce&tors enjoyed, or principally directed to cut off our dependence on an English court, and not to take place during the life of the queen; lie who refuses his consent to them, whatever he may be by birth, cannot sure be a Scotsman by affection. This will be a true test to distinguish, not whig from tory, presbyterian from episcopal, Hanover from St. Germains, nor yet a courtier from o man out of place; but a proper test to distinguish a friend from an enemy to his country. And indeed we are spilt into so many parties, and cover ourselves with so many false pretexts, that such a test seems necessary to bring us into the light, and shew every man in his own colours. In a word, my lord Chancellor, we are to consider, that though we suffer under many grievances, yet our dependence upon the court of England is the cause of nil, comprehends them all, and is the hand that ties up the bundle. If we break this, they will all drop and fall to the ground:if not, this band will straiten us more and more, till we shall be no longer a people. I therefore humbly propose, That for the security of our religion, liberty, and trade these limitations be declared by a resolution of this house to be the conditions upon which the nation will receive a successor to the crown of this realm nfter the decease of her present majesty, and failing heirs of her body, in case the said successor shall be also king or queen of England/ ’ Lord Bil/iavtns Speech on the said Act] The lord Bdiwvt'n made the following Speech on the Act for Security of the kingdom, in case of the Queen’s death; " My Lord Chancellor; We are now upon •n act of the last consequence, it is an Act for the Security of the kingdom in case of the [xxxii Queen’s death. I hear it proposed-by a noble earl on the otiier side, that this act should La« the same narrative with the act 1696. But 1 would have it considered, that our circumstances are much changed since that time: we had then both a king and successor in being; now our happiness and the welfare of tlui kingdom, doth solely depend upon the life of our most gracious and excellent queen (whoa Ood long preserve for a blessing to this nation.) It is from her bounty to this her ancient kingdom. that we hope to bring this excellent and useful law to perfection; therefore, my lord, in my humble opinion, the best narrative can be given to this act is, to set things iu their true light before this honourable house, with relation to the circumstances of this nation as at present, and as it hath been this century of years by pasr, ever since the union of the two crowns under one monarch. " If we consider, my lord, our present circumstances, we aie a divided people moonlit ourselves, divided and separated in our interests and circu ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Priviledge (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'priviledge' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- wn commissioners, that the least shadow of jealousy might be removed:the narrative of the act impowering the commissioners to treat about the Union of the two kingdoms, makes clear the design our predecessors had of reserving the sovereignty and independency of their nation, which they saw was in great danger by the absence of their king; for it says, ‘The king vouchsafes to assure them of his sincere.disposition and clear meaning, no way by the said union to prejudge or hurt the fundamental laws, ancient privileges, offices, and liberties of the kingdom, which, if innovate, could no more be a free monarchy.’ What the consequence of this Union was, is well known, it was only an amusement, and ended in an unconsiderable tariff of trade betwixt the two nations, and small as it was, it was thought too considerable for us to have, and therefore the English resiled. ccj * xxv] APPENDIX, N° I. " The next method our prudent fellow subjects take, to influence our government, so as rwe might not be able for the future to rectify our constitution, was to extend the prerogative; they judged well enough, that if our king have a large prerogative, that his residing among them would make them masters of that, therefore a parliament is called in the 1606 ear of God, and the very first act is anent the ing’s royal prerogative. The narrative, which is the Ratiol*cgis, runs thus, ‘That since our king is now king of the renowned kingdoms of England, France and Ireland, whilks very far surpasseth the wealth, power and force of the dominions of any of his primo-genitors, kings of Scotland, tor discharge whereof, God hath endued his majesty with sua many extraordi-nar graces and maist rair and excellent ver-tues, and that God having manifestly expressed his heavenly will to be, that his majesty’s imperial power, whilk God hath sua graciously enlarged, shall nut be deminished, but rather reverenced nod augmented; therefore his sovereign authority, princely power, royal prerogative and priviledge of his crown, is largely extended over all estates, All 1 shall ob- serve from this, my lord, is, That wo may clearly see from whence this came, when at the same time there was nosuch extending of prerogative with relation to Englifnd. " The second act of the same parliament is for restoring the estate of bishops, and the reason of that law is, because ‘ They are sua Jar necessar fundaments and pillars for maintaining the authority of pruices, &c Therefore, & c. " Before I proceed further, my lord, I shall ©nee for all observe, that an Union, the Prero- {; ative, and state of Bishops, are the three Kindles onr prudent and potent neighbours have made use of, for these hundred years by past, to draw to them tlte sole power of influencing the government of our nation, and of preventing of the rectification of its constitution from time to time, and so I go on. 44 In 1607, 16(^9, and 1612 years of God we had parliament! which were only employed in advancing the Episcopal government, as appears by the acts thereof, in favours of deans and chapters, teinds and other Ecclesiastical benefices. 44 But in the year 1617, my lord, our good old king must be persuaded to make us a visit, and hold a parliament himself, where the conge d'clire, was establish’d, they were afraid that the Scots bishops might in time come to kick against them, and smell their design; Therefore the king must have a finger in that pyt too. 44 But the main design of that journey, was to prepare the members of the general assembly to a more close union with the English in their Religious Worship; and this was done so effectually, that in the 1618th year of God, the five Articles commonly called the Five Articles of Perth, past in a general assembly kept there, though not without great struggle; and this wa§ ratified afterwards at the puiliawcut 1st, — Proceedings in the [xxxti which was the last of king James's Parliaments. 44 My lord, king James dies in the 1625 year of God. His son king Charl ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- prefer an English interest before that of this country. It is yet less strange, that English ministers should advise and procure the advancement of such persons to the ministry of Scotland, as w ill comply with their measures and the king’s orders; and to surmount the difficulties they may meet with from a true Scots interest, that places and pensions should be bestowed upon parliament men and others: I say, these things are so far from wonder, that they are inevitable in the present state of our affairs. But I hope they likewise shew us, that we ought not to continue any longer in this condition. Now this limitation is advantageous to all. The prince will no more be put upon the hardship of deciding between an English and a Scots interest; or the difficulty of reconciling what he owes to each nation, in consequence of his coronation oath. Even English ministers will no longer lie under the temptation of meddling in Scots affairs:ner the ministers of this kingdom, together with all those who have places and pensions, bo any more subject to the worst of all slavery. But if the influences I mentioned before shall still continue, what will any other limitation avail u»? what shall wc be the better for ourActcon-cerning the power of War and Peace: since by the force of an English interest and influence, we cannot fail of being engaged in every war, and neglected in cvety peace? — Proceedings in the [lxviii " By this limitation, our parliament will become the most uncorrupted senate of all Eo-rope. No man will he tempted to vote against the interest of his country, when his counrrv shall have all the bribes in her own hands; offices, places, pensions. It will be no longer necessary to lose one half o| the public customs, that parliament-men may be marie collectors. We will not desire to exclude the officers of state from sitting in this bouse, when the country shall have the nomination of them; and our parliaments, free from corruption, cannot fail to redress all our grievances. We shall then have no cause to fear a refusal of the royal assent to our acts; for we shall have no evil counsellor, uor enemy of his country to advise it. When this condition of government shall take place, the royal assent will be the ornaineut of the prince, and never be refined to the desires of the people. A general unanimity will he found in tins house; in every part of the government, and among all ranks and conditions of men. The distinctions of court and country-party shall no more be heard in this naiion; nor shall the prince and people any longer have a different interest. Rewards and punishments will be in the hands of those «ho live among us, and consequently best know the merit of men; by which means virtue will be recompensed and vice discouraged, and the reign and government of the prince will flounsh in peace and justice. " I should never make an end, if I would prosecute all the great advantages of this limitation; which, like a divine influence, torus all to good, as the want of it has hitherto poisoned every thing, and brouehc all to ruin. I shall therefore only add one particular more, in which it will be of the highest advantage to this nation. We all know, that the only way of enslaving a people is by keeping up a standing artny; that by standing forces all limited monarchies have been destroyed, without them none; that so long as any standing forces sre allowed in a nation, pretexts will never be wanting to increase them; that princes have never suffered militias to be pot upon ant good foot, lest standing forces should appear unnecessary. We also know that a good and well regulated militia is of so great importance to a nation, as to be the principal part of the constitution of any free government. New by this limitation, the nation will hare a suffrient power to render their ti.iliti.i good and edeo tual, t>v the nomination of officers: and if we would send a certain proportion of our nffittm abroad yearly, and relieve them from time to ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- itations in question nre pretended to be such a burthen in the act, ns to hazard tla? loss of the w hole, can we expect to obtain them when separated from the act? Is there any common sense in this? I.et us not deceive ourselves, and imagine that the net of lfOti, dus not expire immediately after the quten and l.eirs of her body; for in ail that act, tb*‘ heirs and successors of his late majesty liing William are always restrained and specified by these express words, according to the declaration of the estates, dated the 11th of April l(i89. So that unless we make a due provision by some new law, a dissolution of the government will ensue immed atily upon the i.eath of her majesty, failing heirs of her body. Such an act therefore being of absolute and indispensible necessity, I am of opinion, that the limitations ought to he inserted therein as the only proper place for them and surest way to obtain them: and that whoever would separate them does not so much desire we should obtain the act, as that we should lose the limitation?." My Lord Chancellor; When our kings fcuecteded to the crown ot England, the mitus- — Proceedings the . tors of that nation took a short way to ruin us, by concurring with their inclinations to extend the prerogative in Scotland; and the great places and pensions conferred upon Scots-tnea by that court, made them to be willing instruments in the work. From that time this nation bigan to g:\ e away their privileges one after the other, though they then stood more in need of having them enlarged. And as the collections of our laws, before the union of the crowns, are full of acts to secure our liberty, those laws that have been made since that time, are directed chit fly to extend the prerogative. And that we might not know what rights and liberties were still ours, nor be excited by the memory of what our ancestors enjoyed, to recover those we had lost, in the two last ed.tions of our acts of parliament the most considerable I ms for the liberty of the subject are industriou. ly and designedly left out. All our affairs since the union of the crowns have been managed by the advice of English mimstiis, and the piiucipol oriices of the kingdom filled with such men, as the court of England knew would be subservient to their riv.-igns: by which means tLey have had so visible an influence upon our while administration, (hat we have from that time appeared to live rest of the world more like a conquered province, than a free independent people. The account is very short: whilst nur princes are not absolute in England, they must be influenced by that nation: our ministers must follow the directions of the pnnre, or lose their places, and our places and pcmions will be distributed according to the inciina ions of a king of England, so long as a king of England lias the disposal of them:neither shall ai.y man obtain the least advancement, who reruns to vote in council and parliament under th .t influence. So that there is no way to free tins country from a ruinous dependence upon tie English court, unless by placing the power of conferring offices and pensions in the parliament, so long as we shall have the same king with England. The ancient kings of Scotland, and even those of France, had not the power of conferring the chief offices of suite, though each of them had only one kingdom to govern, and that the difficulty «e labour under, of two kingdoms which have different interests governed by the same king, did not occur, besidts we nil know that the disposal of our places and pensions is so considerable a thing to a king of England, that several of our princes, since the union of the crowns, have wished ta be free from the trouble of deciding between the many pretenders. That which would have given them ease, will give us liberty, and make us significant to the common interest of both nations. Without this, it is impossible to free us from a dependence on the English court: nil other remedies and conditions of government will p ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sisted the arts of France, be supposed, now he is master of three kingdoms, and of a powerful state, to risk them all at once, and yield to those arts be before despised ? To this, whatever other answer I could give, I shall only say at present that we have always but too just ground to suspect all secret and close negotiations with France. But it seems you thought it not worth your inquiry, whether these negotiations were for your advantage or ruin. You will say, what ground was there of suspicion ? for nothing appeared. I say, that of all others was the greatest. But who was it, that first as commissionated, and after as embassador, was employed to treat? Was he an Englishman ? And how were the plenipotentiaries of this nation used at the formal treaty ? Were they not as pageants brought in to attend the show ? Or as so many cyphers, that without the Dutchmen, who made the figure, could signify nothing ? Yet this advantage we had, that the king having not been owned till the conclusion of the treaty, the abandoning of the Protestant religion at Reswick cannot with any colour of justice be imputed to English ministers, but only to the plenipotentiaries of Holland: and you could not by any means conceive or entertain the least suspicion of indirect dealing in the private treaty, when you saw yourselves and your religion so fairly dealt with in that which was public. Yet roe* thinks, the abandoning ofour ancient allies, and entering into the closest and most entire correspondence with France that has ever been seen between the two courts, ought to have moved you a little, and made you doubtful that a bargain was struck, unless you can think France uncnpnble of entering into any that may be to your disadvantage. Here indeed I know not what to say for you: and the best account I can give of your careless indifference, must be to set before you your present condition; which yet I fear will both ofi'end and terrify you; I wish it may not throw you into despair. But such distempers are only to he cured by violent remedies: and I had rather venture your displeasure in doing my duty, than lsxis] APPENDIX, Nc I obtain the friendship of your enemies by omitting it. It is then thus. The English nation have now nothing remaining but the outward appearance and carcase, as I may call it, of their ancient constitution. The spirit and soul is fled. Jealousy for public liberty is vanished. The corn I basso often renewed the same arts, methods and councils, and so often made trial of the several parties in the kingdom, as well as of the alliance of France, in order to compass their ends, that the nation begins to grow weary of opposing the same things, and very wisely thinks there can be no danger of such attempts as have so often failed. Besidts, you are grown weary of that old and antiquated care and concernment for the public:or at least have given it a new and better turn. Some of you improving vour morals, which are so necessary for the preservation of liberty, in constant gaming, as others do their politics and skill in military matters by laying wagers. And even stock-jobbing makes you deeply concerned for the public affairs. Long sessions of parliament furnish great opportunities of knowing the interests of the several parties; by which you must needs know that of the nation, since the nation is made up of parties. And the court, l»y frequent shifting from one party to another, has forced you to double your attendance upon them. So that as well those who are at this time to go off the guard, as those who are coming on, being equally willing, the one to continue, and the other to enter upon duty, the court craftily keeps both parties under arms, whilst the country has nothing to trust to, but a weak, unpaid and disorderly militia party. And now I think I have sufficiently shewn the causes of your present indifference; since having so much ousiness at home, you can hardly attend to what is doing abroad. Yet one would think that a certain affair t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- belong. And she has tot it; for the Solomon who commanded to divide the child, did it notin order to do justice. Instead of the preservation of the peace «f Europe, for no great mischief was ever desigcec, but piety was still pretended, Europe must iKm this time be either iu a posture of war, and so consumed by taxes; or in actual war, wasted by bloodshed and rapine, ’till she be forced to hold out her hands to the shackles, and submit to a worse condition. These are the glorious works of such governors as the world thinks they cannot he without; perhaps too truly:(mean those who are to execute God's judgments upon them. It is evident a treaty was made, which if it had taken effect even in the plain meaning of the words, had broken the balance of Europe, and destroyed your trade in the Mediterranean, under the plausible pretence of avoiding a greater evil, into which it was contrived to throw you. Yet after all, you ace positively resolved to rely upon the faith of those who contrived and concerted this, and obstinately bent to continue in peace, when the rest of Europe are to make the last push tor their liberty. As those who are marked out far ruin are first bereft of understanding; so you who see nothing but sham upon sham played upon you, seem to be altogether uucapable of making the least reflection to what end they arc designed. " You plainly see thnl those who have the direction of your affairs, have broken the balance of Europe, and delivered a great part of the world into the Inmds of France. Yet to tbit hour it. cannot enter into your heads that this was done, for any end, nor can you allow it the least reflection. It is true, wise men lore not to determine suddenly:you tuke yet a serer w.iv not to mistake in your detrnnmntion, which is. not to think. It is ominmnlv that in this world nothing is to be hud for i »- Ixxxi] thing: but you make no doubt, that almost one half of the worM may be given for nothing. The proverb I own is meant of money, and of private persons:but yon are of opinion, that princes may be more disinterested, and less wise; or at least, that it is not much your business to enquire whether it be so or not. Besides, there is nothing to direct you in an enquiry touching this whole affair, there being no manner of resemblance between this treaty and that of Dover. For though the French king was a party concerned in both; yet lie is now grown old, and would willingly, if you permit, pass the rest of his days in peace, and only apply himself to redress the disorders, and restore the vigour of the Spanish monarchy. The condition of the Dutch is much altered since the Dover treaty; for then they were partitioned, but now they are risen to the quality of partitioned. And we are in absolute security that nothing can be stipulated to our prejudice, since he who then gloriously refusing a crown, broke the measures of king Charles and of France, now treats for us, and remains still as generously disinterested as ever, no advantage appearing to accrue by the treaty either to him or his. So that the Dover treaty affording no light at all ib this affair, it still remains an impenetrable mystery, why France is allowed so many rich provinces in possession, and so many in reversion. For if the duke of Anjou be any more than a viceroy, it is in the power of Ins grandfather to make him less, and dispose of him and his dominions at pleasure. But I hare found the secret. Ydti will say, pray what is it ? What you might have found out as well as I, if you had any goodness in you. It was the pious design of preserving the peace of Europe, on which you see the whole treaty is founded. You will answer; all the world knows this as well os you. Ay; but you do not sufficiently reflect upon the eminent degree of that piety so clearly demonstrated in a perfect resignation of all that the world calls honour nnd security, in order to continue the peace and quiet of the poor people of Europe. This was the thing that made, us first sacrifice t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ines with arms and ammunition, and repairing the forts and castles, and for the charge of the frigates, that prove so useful for guarding the coasts. — We earnest recommend to you whatever may contribute to the advancement of true piety, and the discouragement of vice and immorality; and we doubt not but you will take care to encourage trade, and to improve the product and manufactories of the nation: In all which, and everything else that can be for the good and happiness of our people, you shall have our hearty and ready concurrence. We shall only add, that unanimity and moderation in all your proceedings will be of great use, for bringing to a happy issue the important affairs that we have laid before you, and will also be acceptable to us; So we bid you heartily farewell. — Given at our Court at Windsor Castle, the 25th day of June, 1704. And of our reign the third year.’ * The Lord High Commissioner's Speech.] This done, her Majesty’s High Commissioner mad* the following Speech: " My Lords and Gentlemen; You have heard the queen’s gracious Letter; her Majesty therein expresses such a concern for the good and welfare of this nation, and gives such unquestionable proofs of it, as prevents even your wishes. I do not in the least doubt, but when you duly consider the import of this letter, you will be all of the same mind with me, that it is now in our power to make ourselves and our posterity happy. — Such, indeed, are her Majesty’s gracious condescensions that, in order to obtain what is for our good, we need only propose it, provided you do it, as no doubt you will, with the regard and deference that are due to so gracious a sovereign, and that in your demands you keep within just and reasonable bounds, and ask nothing but what is in her Majesty’s power to grant. — If there be any thing yet wanting for the better securing our Religion, and the present church government, as now by law established:or for the suppressing of vice, and encouraging of virtue:if any grievances to be redressed, and new laws found necessary, as I doubt not but there will, for rectifying of abuses ci\ pt into your constitution, or administration of the government, or any part of it, whether it be in policy or justice ? or tor removing all encroachments upon the sovereignty, or liberties of the nation, and the securing and preserving these entire and inviolable to ourselves and our posterity; I am fully empowered and entrusted, not only in these matters, to give you what reasonable satisfaction you can demand; but likewise in any thing that may be proposed, for improving of learning, the advancement of trade, and encouraging manufactories; so that, in effect, lxxxviil APPENDIX. N* h — i* ike [Ixxxvm ooihing bath escaped her Majesty's care, that can any ways contribute to make you a flourishing and happy people, she reckoning the welfare, peace and prosperity of her subjects, the only way to her own greatness and happiness. — And yet, as if all this were loo little J»er Majesty extends her care for you further, in recommending to you, as you hare heard, the settling the succession in the protestant line; and this her Majesty recommends to you with all the earnestness she is capable of, ’as that which is absolutely necessary for securing to yourselves, and transmitting to your posterity, your religion and liberties, or whatever else you have or can have that is valuable. Sure her Majesty can have no concern in this, but the interest of her people, which does so evidently require the settling of the succesion, and the seo ling of it at this time, that, I hope no true protestant, and lover of his country, will when he hath seriously thought on it, And just ground to oppose it. — Her Majesty having thus done her part, and iu a manner so good and generous, and evidently disinterested, it remains that we fail not to do ours, by letting go this great opportunity, (which, if now lost, may possibly never be recovered) to deliver this nation from the inconveniences and hardships th ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e and reply with calmness. I have oft regretted to see good reasoning lost, or at least ineffectual iu great measure, by the heats in arguing:and 1 will say it were a pity: for the members of great courts elsewhere uiay, in the opinion of many, speak better language than these of this do; yet they do not speak better seuse. And besides these motives to calm reasoning, this ought to determine us all against it, to wit, that neither our heat nor our self-pleasing arguments, ore, what will determine any debate. The law of order, the constitutions, statutes, and necessity, give the faculty of concluding to the whole of this house:and all we can say must he submitted to what this whole house will approve, or to what the major part will agree in:And therefore, much reasoning, and all heats, will, on many accounts, be profi :ably forborne. I conclude with this assertion, which 1 think evident without discourse, that as the union of Britain is apparently its greatest politic good; so, as cer- — Proceedingsin the [xcit tainly, and by the infallible rule of contraries, a division of Britain is its greatest evil: Anri then, it is a necessary corollary, whoever is not for the union of Britain, may be concluded an enemy to it Proceedings respecting the Succcxston.l July 13. Pursuant to the scheme^ofa treaty Debra the succession was fixed, the duke of lianuuim presented a resolve, that this parliament would not proceed to name a successor to the crown, until the Scots had a previous treaty with England, in relation to commerce and other concerns. The courtiers, not expecting die cavaliers would have begun so early to oppose die succession, were not a little surprised and perplexed at this resolve, and all they could do 1 for the present was to procure a vote, that it should lie on the table till the next meetup four days after. The duke of Hamilton having then moved the resuming of the consideration of his resolve, it occasioned a warm debnte, io which Fletcher ofSalton, in a particular manner represented the hardships ami miseries winch the Scots had sutlered since the union of the two crowns under one sovereign, and the impossibility of bettering their condition, unless they took care to prevent any design that tended continue the same. Upon this, the earl <>f Itothes presented another resolve, That this parliament would immediately proceed to untie such limitations and conditions ot governtucoi. as might be judged proper for rectifying the constitution, and to vindicate and secure n-e sovereignty and independency of the nation; and then the parliament would take into cu-sideration the other resolve offered by the duke of Hamilton for a treaty, previous to the nomination of a successor to the crown. Tins occasioned a new debate, wherein the court party earnestly urged the settling the succession, before the house proceeded to any other business; and, on the other hand, the cavaliers made wry sharp reflections on the proceedings of the parliament of England, with relation to the plot, which had gieat influence on many meuiOer* wholly unacquainted with that affair. However, the court-party, thinking they were strongeiiou; h to gire the earl of Rothes’s motion the presence to the duke of Hamilton’s resolve, ms.>:ed * " So, notwithstanding long and idlcspeeci of the earl of Cromarty’s, which was pnnttM, running into a distinction among divines I. tween the revealed and secret will of God, shewing, that no such distinction could be ap- plied to the queen; She had but one will, and that was revealed; yet it was still su>ptvuxl, that at least her ministers had a secret wi i the case. They went no further in ihis vote for a treaty with England; for they could nc^ agree among themselves, who should be ti< Commissioners, and those who oppo-cd tie declaring the succession, were concerned tar no more, when that que-tion was once aside: So it was postponed, as a mntier aG>ut which they took uo further care.*' Barne; . acciii] to have the question stated, Whi ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t was recommended to them to bring the export and import of the nation to a balance, and lay the same before the house next session. Proceedings respecting the Succession.] Before this act was brought to perfection, the cavaliers made all possible efforts to prevent the settling of the Succession, for which purpose the duke of Hamilton, on the 17th of July, presented the following resolve, " That this parliament will not proceed to the nomination of a Successor, till they have had a previous treaty with England in relation to commerce, and other concerns with that nation." And further " That this parliament will proceed to make such Limitations and conditions of government for the rectification of the constitution, as may secure the liberty, religion, and independency of this kingdom, before they proceed to the nomination of a successor." The court, and most of the flying squadron, united against this resolve; but the cavaliers insisted vigorously upon it, and, by the assistance of some of the duke of Queensberry’s friends, carried it by a great majority. Lord Bclh area's Spcichthereon.] Upon this occasion Lord Belhaven made the following Speech: " My Lord Chancellor; Bv what experience I have bad in this world, I always found, that wheu divisions are once come to that consistency, as to form themselves in factions upon different measures and opposite designs, that then reason and reasoning make but a very small impression upon either of the parties. Therefore I shall not enter into the ments of this resolve, nor of its expediency or unexpediency at this time, that 1 may not give the least rise to debate, or occasion of misunderstanding amongst nurselves. What I shall say on this head, is to advance this position, viz. That there is more danger to our nation, and national concerns by divisions and f actions, than by any mistakes in fit and adequate measures, if they be unanimously gone upon. — A wrong measure, especially, iu resolution *, ' may be rectified and redressed, when we come to a fuller view of the affair. And, though *>the times they prove unsuccessful, yet unanimity endures a shock with firmness; but divisions and factions increase and multiply, and that from very small beginnings, so as to render alt persuasions abortive; and that more especially amongst men of honour, who, as they are generally more grateful, constant, and firm to their words and parties, so upon disappointments they arc more prone to resentment and revenge, the most dangerous of ail passions, and the most fatal to the very being of nation*. — What I plead for, my lord, at this time, is unity. Would you have limitations? Go upon them unanimously. Would you haves treaty ? Do the like. Would you settle the succession upon limitations without a treaty? Would you settle the succession on treaty without limitations ? Would you have nenher done at this time ? In short, whatever you would have done, let it be done new. oti, and it will not want its own weight; for I job persuaded, that, whatever resolution this honourable house shall come to, a wrong measure is preferable to a good one, if there be #u-animity in the one, and faction at the bottom of the other. — My lords, I could bring in instances from the histories of Europe, to confirm what I have snid, and from none mere than that of our neighbours, the state* of Holland, whose unity has raided them to the grandeur and riches they are possessed of si this day. They wanted not wrong ineasires and unsuccessful attempts; but their unanimous firmness in the vindication of their lu*rty hath made good the verity of their m> 'to, Concordia res pnrvic crescent.’ — But, wa»uig what is foreign, I shall confine nivself to our ow n histories, and by four examples I *hd make it evidently appear, that our predecessor?, when in good understanding atnor.*s: themselves, were always in a condition to ce-fend their rights and liberties against the English, and that they never did prevail over us. save when we were divide ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rests or successions, wars, alliances, * and trade, reserving to us the sovereignly and * independency of the crown and monarchy, * and the ancient privileges and immunities of ‘the kingdom, and the constitution and frame * of the government both of church and state, * as they stand now, established by our funda- * mental constitution, by our Claim of Right, ‘ and by the laws following thereupon. Or, ‘ resolved, that we will proceed to settle the * same successions with England, upon such 1 conditions and regulations of government ‘ within ourselves, as shall effectually secure * the sovereignty and independency of this * crown and kingdom, and the indissolvable so- * ciety of the same, with the fundamental ‘ rights and constitutions of the government * both of our church and state, as the same * stands established by the Claim of Right, * and other laws and statutes of this king- * dom. ’ Duke of AthoVs Protestation against the Union.] Which being read and debated, the vote was stated, approve of the first article of Union or not: but before the vote, the Duke of Athol gave the following protestation: " I John duke of Athol, protest for myself, and all others, who shall adhere to this my protestation, that an incorporating Union of the crown of Scotland with the crown of England, and that both nations should be represented by one and the same parliament, as contained in the articles of the Treaty of Union, is contrary lo the honour, interest, fundamental laws and constitution of this kingdom, the birthright of the peers, the rights and privileges of the barons and boroughs, and act 190 pari. 8 J. 6, by which it is ordained, that none of the lieges presume or take upon them, to impugn the dignity and antliority of the three estates of parliament, or to seek or procure the innovation tly] APPENDIX, N * or diminution of the power end authority of ehe said three estates under the pain of trea-«oA: and is contrary to the Claim of Right, property, and liberty of the subjects; and the third act of her majesty’s parliament 1703, by which it is declared higli-treasonin any of the subjects of this kingdom, to quarrel or impugn, or endeavour by writing, malicious and advised speaking, or other open act or deed, to alter or innovate the Claim of Right, or any Article thereof; and therefore do desire, that this my protestation be marked in the records of parliament, " Firtt Article of tht Union approved.] The same day, a note was stated in these terms, Approve of the first Article of the Union, in the terms of the motion mentioned in the pre-.ceding day’s minutes, viz. that if the other Articles of Union be not adjusted by the parliament then the agreeing to, and approving of the first, shall he of no effect; and that immediately after the said first Article, the parliament, will proceed to an act for the security of the doctrine, discipline, worship and government of the church, as by law established within this kingdom and it was carried, approve in the terms of the above motion. Bill for the Security of the Scotch Church.] The act for the Security of the Church, which was under consideration of the parliament on the 9th, ran thus: " Our sovereign lady and the estates of parliament considering, that by the late act of Earliaraent, for a Treaty with England for an fniou of both kingdoms, it is provided that the commissioners for that Treaty should not treat of, or concerning any alteration of the worship, discipline and government of the Church of this kingdom, as now by law established; which Treaty being now reported to the parliament, and it being reasonable and necessary that' the true Protestant religion, as presently professed within this kingdom, with the worship, discipline and government of the Church, should be effectually and unalterably secured; therefore her majesty, with advice and consent of the said estates of parliament, doth hereby establish and confirm the said true Protestant religion, and the worship, discipline •ud ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e vote, Proceed to the consideration of the third article in the terms of the said motion, or Proceed to the fourth article, and carried, Proceed- to the third. Accordingly the parliament proceeded to the consideration of the third Article, and after long debate upon it, a vote was stated, Approve of the third Article in the terms of the said motion or not. Marquis of Annan dale's } But be * fore voting, the marquis of Annandule gave a Protest, and craved that the narrative of the resolve, inserted in the Minutes of the 4th instant, might be prefixed thereunto; which Narrative and Protest is as follows: uWhereas it evidently appears, since the printing and considering the articles of Treaty now before this House, this nation seems generally averse to this incorporating Union, in the terms now before us, as subversive of the sovereignty, fundamental constitution, and claim of right of this kingdom, and as threatening ruin of this church as by law established: and since it is plain, that if an Union were agreed to in these terms by the parliament and accepted of by the parliament of England, it would in no sort answer the peaceable and friendly ends proposed by an Union, but would, on the contrary, create such dismal distractions and animosities amongst ourselves, and such jealousies and mistakes betwixt us and our neighbours, as would involve these nations in fatal breaches and confusions. " Therefore I do protest for myself, and in name of those who shall adhere to this my protestation, that an incorporating Union of the crown and kingdom of Scotland, with the crown and kingdom of England, and that both nations be represented by one and the same parliament, as contained in the articles of the Treaty of Union, and contrary to the honour, interest, fundamental laws and constitutions of this kingdom, is a giving up the sovereignty, the birthright of the peers, the rights and privileges of the barons and burghs; and is contrary to the claim of right, property, and liberty of the subjects, and 3d act of her majesty’s parliament in 1703. By which it is declared high treason in any of the subjects of this kingdom, to quarrel, or endeavour - by writing, malicious and advised speaking, or other open act or deed, to alter or innovate the claim of right or any article thereof: and do protest, that this shall uot prejudice the being of future Stotch parliaments, and conventions within the kingdom of Scotland, in no time coming. Third Article approved.] Then the Vote was put, Approve of the Hid article in tho terms of the motion, and carried, Approve, by 30. Mr. SetonfsSpeech .] During the debates on the third Article, Mr. Seton, junior, of Pitmedden, made this speech; " My lord chancellor; Having beard with much attention the third article debated, I 6ud it liable, with the other articles of this v — Proceedings in tfc [efx'ir Treaty, to be put in a false or true light by the speakers to it, in proportion to those notions they have of the nature of this Union; what I am to say concerning it, shall be to remove some objections, which, in my opinion, is the proper method to smooth the way tor approving it. — The principal objections are, That the representatives for shires and burghs cannot legally approve this article, without the assent of their constituents; and that by tbs approbation of it, the sovereignty and independency of this kingdom will be surrendered to England. — My lord, to give a distinct and convincing answer to the first objection, let us look a little to the nature of our constitution of government. — Our government is act a Polish aristocracy, founded on pacta con-venta, ’ whereby all the gentry are empowered in their particular meetings, to prescribe role* to their representatives in a geneaal diet. — Our government is not a common democracy, whereby every subject of Scotland may claim a vote in the legislature. Our government is, and has been many ages past, a limited monarchy, wherein the sovereign and representative are t tie o ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- beer of Scotland should have the like rewards and draw-hacks as barlty.* And it was likewise moved, That another clause should be added, allowing the like draw-back on the expurtati-.n of oat-meal, ns is allowed on the exportation of rye in England. And after debate it wns agreed, that the Vlth Article, with the proposal* for amend* menis, should he remitted to a Committee/ Then was a clause ollered to be added to the said Vlth Article, thus: 4 But Scotland, for the space of----y«ars after the first day of May next, shall be free from, and no ways sulject to the prohibitions and restrictions made against exporting of wool skins with wool upon them, and woolen yarn, which by the oatiis of the seller and buyer shall he made appear to be the proper growth and-product of Scotland, and spun wi'hin the same, which shall no ways he comprehended under any of the laws already made in England^ or to be made during the space aforesaid. ’ As also a clause thus; 4 Excepting and reserving the duties upon export and import of such particular commodities, from which the subjects of either kingdom are specially exempted by their private rights, which, after the Union, ate to remain safe aod entire to theoi in all respects. * APPENDIX, N° I. — Parl elxxi] And another clause thus, 4 That after the Union all sorts of Scots liniten, or any kind of cloth made of flax or hemp, be exported out of the united kingdom free of all customs or other impositions whatsoever. ’ And another thus, ‘ That before the Union, wc may uow have such a draw-back adjusted, as may enable us to export beef, pork and butter, to the West Indies, and other foreign parts, which will be one considerable branch of our trade after the Union. ’ And another clau-e tints, That from and after the Union, all duties or bounty tolls, or other exactions upon black cattle, or any -other product of Scotland, when carried into England, or product of JLngland when carried into Scotland, payable either to the public or private persons, shall in all time coming be void and null. ’ And another clause in these terms, That from and after the Union, the kingdom of Scotland shall have liberty for ever to manufacture plaiden, fingraiu, galloway, whites, serges, stockings, and all sorts of linnen, as they have been in use to do, conform to the regulations contained in their own law«, and to export the same to England, or the dominions and plantations thereunto belonging, or to any other place beyond seas, free of any duty or imposition whatsoever; but iu case an of the subjects of that part of United Britain, now called Scotland, shall export any other sort of woollen manufacture than what is above mentioned, they are to be liable to the regulations and taxes of England, imposed before the Union, or to be imposed by the British parliament after the Union:' all which were remitted to the Committee for examining the calculation of the equivalent. The Seventh Article.] Then the VIIth Article uf Union was read, and being debated on the 28th a proposal was made for an explanation or addition thus, ‘ That the 34 gallons English barrel of beer or ale, amounting to 12 gallons Scots, present measure sold in Scotland by the brewer at 9s. 6d. sterl. excluding all duties, and retailed including duties; and the retailers profit at 2d. per Scots pint, or eighth part of the Scots barrel, be not, after the Union, liable, on account of the present excises upon exciseable liquors in England, to auy higher imposition than two shillings sterling upon the 34 gallons English barrels, being 12 gallons the present Scots measure. And another clause being likewise offered thus, ‘ And it is hereby specially provided, that the twopenny ale and beer of Scotland, shall he only charged with the same excise as the stnall-becr in England. After some debate, the vote was stated, * Approve of the VIIth Article, as to the excise of ale and beer, with the explanation as contained in the first or last clause above-mentioned.’ And carri ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ple (which will be the happy consequence of the Union ), the said revenues will much improve beyond the before-mentioned annual values thereof, of which no present estimate can be made; yet nevertheless, for the reasons aforesaid, there ought to be a proportionable equivalent answered to Scotland:it is agreed, that, after the Union, there shall be an account kept of the said duties arising in Scotland, to the end it may appear, what ought to be answered to Scotland, as an equivalent, for such proportion of the said increase, as shall be applicable to the payment of the debts of England. And for the further and more effectual answering the several ends hereafter-mentioned; it ia agreed, that, from and after the Union, the whole increase of the revenues of customs and duties on import and export, and excise upon exciseable liquors in Scotland, over and above the annual produce of the said respective duties as above stated, shall go and be applied, for the term of seven years, to the uses here-after-mentioned, and that, upon the said account, there shall be answered to Scotland aununlly, from the end of seven years after the Union, an equivalent, in proportion to such part of the said increase as shall be applicable to the debts of England; and, generally, that an equivalent shall be answered to Scotland, for such parts of the English debts as Scotland may hereafter become liable to pay by reason of the Union, other than such, for which appropriations have been made by parliament of England, of the customs or other duties on export and import, excises on all exciseable liquors, in respect of which debts, equivalents are herein before provided: and as for the uses, to which the said sum of 398, 085/. 10*. to be granted as aforesaid, and all other monies which are to be answered or allowed to Scotland as said is, are to be applied; it is agreed, that in the first place, out of the fore-said sum, what consideration shall be found necessary to be had for any losses, which private persons may sustain, by reducing the coin of Scotland to the standart and value of tha coin of England, may be made good: in the next place, that the capital stock or fund of the African and Indian company of Scotland advanced, together with the interest for the said capital stock after the rate of 5 per cent, per annum, from the respective times of the payment thereof, shall be payed; upon payment of which capital stock and interest, it is agreed the said company be dissolved and cease; and also, that, from the time of passing the act of parliament in England, for raising the said sum of 398, 085/. 10*., the said company shall neither trade, nor grant license to trade, providing, that, if the said stock and interest shall not be payed in 12 months after the commencement of the Union, that then the said company may, from thenceforward, trade, or give licence to trade, until the said hail capital stock and interest shall be payed:and as to tha overplus of the said sum of s cxci] APPENDIX, N° II Vnkm [acii 398, 085/. 10 s , after payment of what considerations shall be had for losses in repairing the coin, and paying the said capital stock and interest; and also the hail increase of the said revenues of customs, duties and excises above the present value, which shall arise in Scotland, during the said term of seven years, together with the equivalent which shall become due upon the improvement thereof in Scotland after the said term; and also, as to all other sums, which, according to the agreements a foresaid, may become payable to Scotland by way of equivalent, for what that kingdom shall hereafter become liable towards payment of the debt of England; it is agreed, that the same be applied in manner following, viz. That all the public debts of the kingdom of Scotland, as shall be adjusted by this present parliament, shall be payed; and that 2,000l. per annum, for the space of 1 years, shall be applied towards encouraging and promoting die manufacture of coarse wool, wit ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v6.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- he said revenues will much improve beyond the before-mentioned annunl values thereof, of which no present estimate can be made: yet nevertheless, for the reasons aforesaid, there ought to be a proportionnble equivalent answered to Scotland; it is agreed, that, after the Union, there shall be an account kept of the said duties arising in Scotland, to the end it may appear what ought to be answered to Scotland as an equivalent for such proportion of the said increase as shall be applicable to the payment of the debts of England. And, for the further and more effectual answering the several ends hereafter-mentioned, it is agreed, that, from and after the Union, the whole increase of the revenues of customs and duties on import and export, and excise upon exciseable liquors in Scotland, over and above the annual produce of the said respective duties as above stated, shall go and be applied, for the term of seven years to the uses hereafter mentioned, and that, upon the said account, there shall he answered to Scotland annually, from the end of seven years after the Union, an equivalent in proportion to such part of the said increase as shall be applicable to the debts of England; and, generally, that art equivalent shall be answered to Scotland for such parts of the English debts as Scotland may hereafter become liable to pay by reason of the Union, other than such fur which appropriations have been made by parliament in England, of the customs or other duties on export and import, APPENDIX, N* ll — bchvccn and Scotland. ecvii] APPENDIX, N° excises on all exciseable liquors, in respect of which debts, equivalents are herein before provided: and as for the uses, to which the said sum of 398, 085/. 10s. to be granted as aforesaid, and all other moneys which are to be answered or allowed to Scotland as aforesaid, are to be applied; it is agreed, that in the first place, out of the foresaid sura, what consideration shall be found necessary to be had for any losses which private persons inny sustain, by reducing the coin of Scotland to the standart and value of the coin of England, may be made good: in the next place, that the capital stock or fund of the African and Indian Company of Scotland advanced, together with the interest for the said capital stock after the rate of five per annum, from the respective times of the payment thereof, shall be payed; upon payment of which capital stock and interest, it is agreed the said Company be dissolved and cease; and also, that, from the time of passing the act of parliament in England, for raising the said sura of 398, 085/. 10*. the said Company shall nei tlier trade, nor grant licence to trade, providing, that, if the said stock and interest shall not be payed in twelve months after the commencement of the Union, that then the said Company n»ay from thencefnrward, trade, or give licence to trade, until the said whole capital stock and interest shall be paid:and os to the overplus of the said sum of 398, 083/. 10s. after payment of what considerations shall be had for losses in repairing the coin, and paying the said capital stock and interest, and also the whole increase of the said revenues of customs, duties, and excises, above the present value, which shall arise in Scotland, during the said term of seven years, together with the equivalent which shall become doe upon the improvement thereofiii Scotland after the said term; and also, as to all other sums, which, according to the agreements aforesaid, may become payable to Scotland by way of equivalent for what that kingdom shall hereafter hecomc liable towards payment of the debt of England; it is agreed, that the same be applied in manner following, viz. That all the public deb*s of the kingdom of Scotland, as shall be adjusted by this present parliament, shall he payed; and that’2,000l. per annum, for the space of seven years, shall be applied towards encouraging and promoting the manufacture of coarse wool within those shires which produce the w ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- retired to their lurking places. Some of the Highlanders appeared in a body near fort William at Inverlochy, in the western Highlands. But, the governor sending out a detachment against them; they marched off; so that they could do nothing at that time, in Scotland, but only steal some cattle, and took an opportunity by night to proclaim the Pretender. The government ordered them to be prosecuted; and by way of prevention, the duke of Gordon was confined by the regency to the city of Edinburgh, on his parole; his son, the marquis of Huntley, to his bouse in the north,; and his son-in-law, the lord Drummond, to his castle of that name. The duke of Athol, lord privy-seal, who bad caused the king to be proclaimed at Perth, was ordered to continue at his castle of Blair in the High- lands, to preserve the peace of the neighbour* hood: and the regency being informed, that the Highlanders bad appointed huntings when it is usual for the clans to attend their chiefs, they forbad those huntings, and ordered sir Donald Macdonald of Slait, one of those chiefs suspected to be in the Pretender’s interest, to be made prisoner, and sent to the castle of Edinburgh. The lord Drummond was also ordered to be seized, but escaped to the Highlands, front whence he wrote to the lords justices, and oftered bail for his good behaviour. The earl of Broadalbin, who had sufficiently declared himself for the Pretender, though he had abjured him when be sat as one of the sixteen Scots peers, thought fit to retire to an inaccessible castle in a lake, upon ^which a detachment of foot was ordered to guard the avenues; and captain Campbel of Glendoroul, who had a commission by the earl of Oxford’s means, to raise an independent company in the Highlands, was taken at Inverlochy, and . from thence sent prisoner to Edinburgh. The late lord-treasurer had, a little before, set , up a new chamberlain’s court in' Scotland, the old one having been long discontinued, because arbitrary princes had made it a grievance to the subject. The design of reviving it now was only for a cover to bestow money upon such, as were i« the court-measure*. Accordingly, 15] PARL. HISTORY, TGeoroe I. IVlk — Principal Occurrences [M die earl of Mar, who managed the affaire of Scotland, recommended his own brother in law, «ir Hugh Paterson of Banockburn, and the lord Haddoj eldest son of the earl of Aberdeen, to be two of the commissioners, to whom the queen had granted a bill of 1, 006/. each, payable by Mr. Douglas, receiver-general of the land-tax. The lord viscount Kilsyth, one of the sixteen Scots peers, and the lord Lyon, king at arms, two other relations to the earl of Mar, had also grants for the like sum. Soon after the queen's death sir Hugh Paterson demanded payment of his bill; but the earl of - Ilay, lord-justice-general of Scotland, interposed, and acquainted the regents how unreasonable a thing this was; and particularly that men suspected of disaffection to his majesty's government, should have the public money distributed ampng them. Upon this the lords regents ordered the duke of Athol, lord privy-seal, to put an immediate stop to all grants, that were not passed before the queen’s death; which disappointed those gentlemen of their money, and saved 4000/. to the government. When the king was proclaimed at Glasgow, forty or fifty unknown persons, while the magistrates were busy in attending the proclamation, ^ook an opportunity to pull down the episcopal meeting-house there, where one Mr. Cockburn had set up the English liturgy, by countenance of the late government, more to disgust the citizens, than in hopes of gaining proselytes. As soon as the magistrates heard of it, they sent to apprehend the actors, and to £ revent the polling down the bouse; but they ad done their work, and made their escape, before the magistrates came thither; so that none of them were discovered or taken; The jacobite party took occasion from hence to reflect upon the presbyterians, ns if they had pe ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- re the king's arrival, the behaviour of sir Constantine Phipps bad 'been such, that the regency had removed him, as well as the archbishop of Armagh, from being lords-justices of that kingdom, and in their room appointed the archbishop of Dublin and the earl of Kildare, for which they 'had:the king’s letter of approbation and thanks. Alan Broderick was made lord chancellor of Ireland, and William Whit-ahed thief justice. The privy-council was also dissolved, add another named, of which the stake of Ormoh^was one. All these changes were made before the’ coronation, which was fixed to (he 20th of October. The king is by some blamed, for not having joined to the great number Of Whigs a fr* more of the Tories, which they suppose "Would havd prevented the general discontent of that pafty. But it was very difficult for the king not to do as he did. The inclination which the Pretender had indiscreetly asserted, the qUeen had for him in the latter years of her life, could be ascribed only to those who had the management of affairs. The ministry, resolutely bent to: end 'the war, notwithstanding the complaints of alt the allies (who placed their safety in the humbling of France) and particularfy, notwithstanding the repeated opposition of the duke of Hanover, they could wot but be sensible, that, if he one day-became their master he would not fail to sacrifice them to his own, and the resentment of the' allies, whose projects they had disappointed, and whose hopes they had confounded. It was therefore natural to think, they bad taken measures to prevent any danger from him. A thousand circumstances supported these conjectures:The dowry paid to king James’s queen: the small reward offered for taking the Pretender; the conniving at thp fisting of men in hik ’service: the suffering the revolution to be ptlblidy 'talked and preached against, and doctrines to be vented, destructive of the principles on which it was builtthe little care to have an eyp to Scotland, to redress the grievances complained of by that nation, and which were capable of driving them to extremities:England unprovided of troops as well as Scotland and Ireland, whilst: under frivolous pretences several regiments Were kept in Flanders; mil this amounted to a sort of demonstration, that the queen’s dehtli alone had prevented the defeating of the Protestant succession, and the VQI.VII, destroying all that bad bCen done for above twenty years to secure and justify the exclusion of kina James and his pretended heir. Now can there be to a prince attacked in so im-‘ portam a point, any room for pardon or dissimu- ' lation-? Besides there was a kind of necessity to espouse one of the two partjes, .who had by turns prevailed under kingWitfiam and qaeenArfne, By that means he would be freed from ther continual trouble of managing and keeping the1 balance even between them, and perhaps from’ the danger of having both turn against him. The Whigs were really enemies of France and the Pretender, and could not b’e otherwise they had constantly declared for the Protestant ’succession, and though in some of their, proceedings the spirit of party nO less appeared than a true zeal, yet they might be depended upon. To the Whjgk the court of Hanover was, indebted, for obliging the French king and the duke of Lorrain hot to suffer the Pretender in their dominions, and for the advices of what was contriving against the interests of the Pro- ' jtestant successor. This being the case, there was no room to deliberate which party to chuse. King William, accustomed from his youth to dissimulation, might have deliberated, or seem-, ed to have done so; but the elector of Hanover, absolute master in his German dominions* and consequently unused to faction and party. Was hardly capable of that dissimulation, so. V requisite in a government like that of England. ’ Notwithstanding all the changes and the disgrace of so many persons, no ill 'effects. fair, lowed. Addresses from the universities, the coun ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mously, in a full convocation, the degree < of doctor of civil law on sir Constantine. Phipps, with all imaginable marks of honour and esteem. The first affair the king turned his thoughts to was the execution of an article of the treaty of Utrecht, the demolition of Dunkirk; from whence the trade of England and Holland had. been greatly incommoded during the late wars. Instead of executing this article, the French king had entirely evaded it; and therefore Mr* Prior, who was.still resident at Paris, was ordered to present a Memorial to him, pressing the performance of the 9th article of the treaty of Utrecht. The French king, who had used the distinction of the letter and spirit of trea--ties to justify his noocompliaoce withLe j to .prevail against; and the crown will be fre-, quently and faithfully informed of the senti-1 tnents of the people, and be thereby enabled to; preserve with them that confidence and good) correspondence, so .absolutely necessary fori the happiness of both: To this I may add, | .that the inconveniencies from triennial elec- i tions, will thereby be much more effectually redressed and cured than ever they will be, by, passing the bill before , ps into a law. Upon the whale therefore, I shall take leave to affirm, That we have at present an.uodisputable right j •to, triennial new parliaments, and -a very just: claim, for I know of no law that has deprived .us thereof, to annual elections. f -But I have something to urge, -as to the! breach of our trust in the passing of this law; ! v»t is agreed pn all sides, That whatever the an-j cient constitution might be, vet we.were chosen ^vhen the law Tor Triennial Parliaments was,) ps it is still, in force; and that we were, and I could he, chosen only for the term of three years, j if hip majesty should think fit to continue us so j long; therefore to continue ourselves for a Jongqr terra, would be a poanifest deceiving of those who chose us, who expected, and could j not , but expect, at the end of three years to have i - the opportunity of.p. -new choice, and to alter .where they found themselves mistaken. It would also-be a very great injustice tP many I thousands of others, who have a right to offer their service to iheir country, and who, for the honor of the nation, I am willing to hope, are ip all respects equally .qualified for the service with us, who have at present the honor to fill those seats. If this bill were to enlarge only the continur ance of future parliaments, I should give my negative to it for the reasons I have already mentionec ), and yet in that case the electors would have a fair warning for what time they were to chuse, and those elected, would be truly and properly the representatives of the people; which I conceive cannot be said with truth of the present Parliament, if they should be continued beyond the three years: this, to me, is an insuperable objection against this part of the bill; for if we may add lour years to our present term, may we not add forty, may we not make ourselves perpetual-, or. even extinguish parliaments themselves ? Nay, what is it which we m ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parliaments ? I affirm, there has been more given by them for the supply of a single year, than was given in the whole reign of any of the predecessors of the late king William the third, and that the expence of the public service, since the Revolution, has amounted to more than it did from the first foundation of the English monarchy down to that time; and I will venture to add, that they were such supplies, as could have been faised only by parliaments of a short continuance; for it is not supposable, that the nation would have remained quiet under such heavy taxes, had the same been imposed by a long Pensionary Parliament, such as that of king Charles the second; but, when they were convinced of the absolute necessity of such supplies, from the concurring sentiments of frequent new parliaments, they were by this, and, by this method only, could have been disposed to the cheerful payment of the same; when this is seriously considered, ! am persuaded that no gentleman will say, That Triennial Parliaments are incapable of doing great things, when it is true beyond the possibility of contradiction, that they have actually done much greater things than were ever done by parliaments before: Let us but compute what was done by the long Pensionary Parliament of king Charles the second, and what has been done in a like number of years by Triennial Parliaments, and then the preference will be easily determined: And surely arguments from matters of fact, and long experience, ought to be of much greater weight than those, which depend only bn conjectural and ill-grounded surmises, and a fanciful way of reasoning. v<>i. vn. 55} PARL. HISTORY, 2 George I. 1716. — Debate on the Septennial, [356 noteasily guess at what is particularly meant; for it has certainly answered all the ends which, from the preamble of the act, we can apprehend to have been expected by the makers thereof, or which indeed, in the nature of the thing, could have been expected from it4; for surely the grievance which nad been felt, of a Very long parliament, is thereby redressed, and the constitution of frequent new Parliaments, in part, retrieved, and brought nearer to what it anciently and originally was. As to the increase of bribery and corruption in elections, since the Triennial Act, it is impossible it can be owing to that law, or that it would beany wise diminished by a repeal thereof; mild in fact, the increase of bribery and corruption in elections may have happened since that law, and yet be no wise a consequence thereof; it is contrary to common sense to Imagine, that those who would purchase their seats in parliament, would give more' for a triennial than for a septennial one, or for a continuance during life ? or that such electors, who will Sell theft* voices, have not arithmetic enough to proportion their prices, to the times they chuse their representatives for; therefore this objection Against the Triennial Act is certainly very frivolous, unless something much farther be intended, than I believe any Briton has yet the courage to speak out, t mean, unless it be ini-tended, before the expiration of the seven years, to add a farther term by another act, and so oh:then Indeed there is an effectual scop put to all future bribery and corruption in Elections, and the last election which the people had, was to be the last they ever were to have. This bring* to my mind a very scandalous pamphlet, which came out a little before the election of thepresent parliament. I think the title of it is " English Advice to the Freeholders of England. This uuthov takes great pains t6 divert the people of England from chusing a Certain party of men, whom he unjustly paints in very black colours; and, amongst others, there'is bn expression to this effect: Do not * give your vote for one of these people, what- * fiver they may offer you, for depend upon it, if * there should be a majority of them in parlia- * meat, it isthe last vote you will ever have the * opportunity to give.* I am persuaded, it is for from the intentions of any gentl ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Private Persons ['private persons']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- at least of the great sums given, have been lost to the service of the nation, which now remains loaded with a debt of fifty millions; besides, at least the sum of seventy millions, which ha3 been actually raised and paid. From hence it followed, that by the great burthens on our trade, a new spring of commerce more secure and beneficial having arisen, I mean the public funds, almost the whole numerous body of our wealthy English merchants, who were formerly the glory of our owir, and the envy of other nations, have thrown all their money into this new channel, and bare left the ancient trade, from which only the wealth of the nation can arise, to be carried on by men of small fortunes, who, trading only upon credit, are little more than factors for the manufacturers of England, who by this unnatural transmigration, arevnow become the merchants of the kingdom; and under these disadvantages a great part of our trade, which was formerly carried on with vigour by our own, is now fallen into the hands of foceign wealthy merchants, and I am afraid irreparably lost to us; the inevitable consequence of which hath been, ruifi to thousands and thousands of British families. And it is as evident, that by the long continuance of the land and malt taxes, and the high prices of all things, by the addition of new excises, the greater part of the middling gentry of the kingdom are half undone, and even our greatest commoners, and the nobility themselves, have very sensibly felt these pressures upon the public; and if the distress, more or less, has become almost universal, no wonder.if it has plained the way to bribery and corruption, and disposed those who had the opportunities of doing it, to partake of the general plunder, and to repair their own at the expence of the public losses. The funds, as I am informed, produce above three millions yearly, towards the interest, and sinking of some part of the principal of our debit this great additional revenue, though the property of private persons, ' is entirely under the management of the officers of the crown, and thereby a dependance vastly greater, on a ministry, has been created, than ever was before, or could otherwise have been; and what influence this had on our elections throughout the whole kingdom, the acts of parliament which have been made to prevent the sqme, sufficiently proclaim: We have now aa army of civil 367] PARL. HISTORY, 2 George I officers, as dangerous as any military force, entirely at the devotion, of a ministry; and although we may run no risque from this, in the hands where bi9 majesty has .now placed the administration, yet we have formerly been, and may again be iri peril from this adventitious power, of the total I099 of our constitution. The short of the case seems to me to be, That some ministers have by their conduct gone a freat way to beggar the nation; and others ave corrupted thpse who have been so undone, and in this happy situation of men and things, the public ihonejr has been employed to corrupt electors, and-returning officers, and thereby have filled some parliaments with the creatures of a Ministry, and many have likewise expended vast sums of their own, when they saw it necessary, to get or secure a place; and by this means these parliaments have been filled with great numbers of mercenary troops, whose uames were scarce known in the counties where they were chosen, and without any family interests of their own, or the assistance of those who had; and if there has been any bribery on the parts of those who have opposed such men, as perhaps there may, it has been occasioned by the vile arts which have been putin practice against them: So I think I may truly affirm, That bribery and corruption, in elections, have not followed as any consequence of the Triennial act, but from causes widely different; and that the foundation thereof was at first laid, and has been since improved and carried on by wicked and designing ministers. As to the cure of this evil, I am afraid it cannot be thoroughly effected whilst the nation labours under the present heavy load of debt; and for' this, and many other reasons, it does not a little concern us, to make all the progress we possibly can in so great and so good a work, as1 is the discharge thereof. As to the heats and animosities which are likewise charged to the account of the Triennial Act, and the burthen and grievance of frequent expensive elections, I shall readily agree, That the frequency of elections, is directly intended and designed by the Triennial Act, to prevent the mischievous consequence of long continued parliaments: but surely no one will say, That this, simply and abstractedly, is a burthen or grievance: and as to the great expence in elections, and the violent neats and animosities about them, they are not in the least owing to the Triennial Act, as I have already shewn: and I presume no gentleman would desire to extinguish the ancient English hospitality, for which the nation has been so long famed; nor can any man imagine it more possible to cure all heats and animosities in elections, than to prevent contentions about them, which the laudable ambition of serving the nation bath formerly kept tu>, and I hope it will do so again, without the help of any other motives; but besides, I am persuaded, that contentions arising from.so worthy a principle, and the old English hospitality, will do no harm. It is strange that 1716. — in the Howe of Common*. [$$8 any one gentleman can fancy, that the passing the bill before us into a )aw, would cooj pur beats, and settle us all in tranquillity; it seems to me to be calculated for the direct contrary -purposes, to blow up the flame, aiuji tp fill up the measure of the nation's discontents; for jt is impossible to conceive, that the electors of Great Britain, of whatever party or denaiqi-nation they may be, will not be highly incensed by such a law as this; and if they should universally turn their resentments against thosp, « ho without their choice have made themselves the representatives of the people; I leaye ' gentlemen to judge, whether this would not be an animosity of a much more dangerous consequence than that which we arp pretending to extinguish by this bill. It is also urged, That these frequent elections are a great encouragement to the idlp- \ ness and debauchery of the meanest and IpwfSt of the people; opportunities only to gratify the drunkenness and lewdneas of the mojb. I am sorry that there are any excesses, to give foundation for this complaint; but surely the evil proceeds from tire same cause, and must be cured in the same way with those others which I have already taken notice of, to have been obj ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- he crown, minister, and even the House of Commons itself; that to repeal this bill was in effect to own the king could not trust his people; besides they argued it was unjust to continue themselves for any [longer time titan the people chose them for, they must then he esteemed not the people’s but their owd representatives, and what laws should be made by them after the time expired for which they were elected, must be null and void:this doughty argument was insisted on by almost every one, but particularly by sir Thomas Hamner and Lechmere, but this was both laughed at and refuted. ' For should that argument hold, then we were a people that had not a supreme power, and so could neither make or repeal any iaws at all, besides it took from us the natural laws of self defence and preservation in times of extreme danger:for the same power that made that law must surely [. 17 i 6. — Debate m ike [376 the bill were Mr. Freeman, Mr. Hunger ford, Mr. Wykes, and lord Finch, who were severally answered by sir Richard Steele, Mr. Boscawen, sir William'Thompson, ' Mr. Erie, Mr. Tufneil, and sir John Brownlow. Mr. Freeman and Mr. Hunger ford having, among other things, insisted, that no satisfactory answer had yet been made, either as to the trust reposed in the Commons by their principals, or as to the repealing the Triennial act. Now Mr. Tufneil, made thereupon the following speech:. Mr. SpeakerI think the only question before us is, Whether the Triennial act, as it now stands, or as it is proposed to be altered by this bill, is likely to conduce most to the benefit of the public ? However, since in this debate there has been a good deal said of the constitution of parliaments, I most beg leave to mention a a word or two on that subject. That1 par * liaments were anciently to be held annually, appears by two acts made, the one in the 4tn, the other in the S6th of Edward 3. But though they were to be held annually or oftener if occasion should be, in order to remedy the grievances of the people, yet I cannot find thai there ever was any time limited for elections:But as the crown had always the power of dissolving, so likewise of calling a parliament whenever they thought fit. There was indeed a Triennial act made in the 16th of Charles 1, To prevent the inconveniences which may arise by the long intermission of Parliaments; and therefore it provided, ’That there should ‘ be a session once in three years; ’’but by no means limited any time for the duration of parliaments. This act was repealed in the 16th of Charles 2, because there were some provisions made in it, which were looked upon as a derogation to the rights of the crown. I believe I may venture to say, the first restriction which - have an equal power of repealing it. This is the sum of both arguments, but in the debates on this subject, a good deal of warmth was shown by the Tories, and Snell so affronted the whole Scotch nation, in saying that no wonder tljose gentlemen were for giving up our liberties, who had given up those of their own nation, that he was forced to explain himself and ask pardon. Lord Finch abused both parliament and ministers, that this bill was calculated to servO the avarice of a few persons; and he termed the House of Commons a lick-spittle-parliament for coming into it. It must be owned the Whigs when it was first proposed, did not relish it at all, but these arguments and the necessity of the times converted them. And it is now evident that they should like what they have done the better, because there is not a Jacobite who d6es ndt rail aloud against it, which confesses a disappointment, and that we have broke their schemes. . Thus I have given you as full an account of this matter as I could in a letter." Mr. Moyle to Horace Walpole* Coxe’s Walpole. y 377] PARL. HISTORY, 2 Geokce I ever the crown lay under, as to the continuance of parliaments/was in the 6th of William and Mary. Then sprang up the Triennial law, which n the .subject of our present ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ettling the necessary points, that is, that they should assist us with money. As I run no risque, with you, Sir, I make no scruple tf telling you in confidence, that the business in hand has for some time been part of my . correspondence with ambassador Sparre. The principal members of the present court of Avignon, offer on the part of their master 60,0001. sterling, to engage the king’s affection. I remonstrated thereupon, that the delicacy of the conjuncture ought to caution us against closing too hastily with this offer, but that I proposed to treat upon the foot of a coawsofr i 405J PARL. HISTORY, aCsonot loan; pud that ia that case, being furnished with the king’s full power to negotiate money for his majesty’s services, I might accept it, giving. them assurances on the lung’s part for repayment; that, if at the same time they i would communicate to me a plan of the prin-; . cipal affair, I would not fail to send it to the hiag; and that, in case his majesty should be; unwilling to enter into the design in question, : he would at least pique himself upon taking; pare, thatthe sum, which 1 should have borrowed in his niune, should be punctually discharged; so that the lenders would run no risque of their money, hut that, on the contrary, they would have put it out to a good advantage, and that, in short, the offer being made upon the foot hofcrfemenuoned, without stipulating any other conditions than being reimbursed, the king might be more effectually wrought upon by that ma^c of their good will, than by directly soliciting the succours they desite. I added to all these intimations, that, incase the king relished the project of a Revolution 4» he brought about ia England, it might perhaps do better to give this enterprise the turn off its being intended to revenge the ua- worthy proceedings of the king3 of England, ' and to aaaintaia the English liberties. You * have herewith, Sir, the copy of a pecuniary ^contract, which I have just bow settled with some private persons in this country. You will find by it, that there is a considerable .advantage to be made, which it was necessary to allow to strangers, .since nobody in Sweden had courage enough for it. If your people had a mind to engage in it, abstractedly from the .grand affair, 1 would admit them forthwith as .far as the sum of 300,000 crowns. The king’s • printed patent, whereof you have herewith a copy, sufficiently secures every individual person from ail frauds with regard to the States bonds, upon which the money is advanced, fiat they must determine speedily, or lay aside all hopes, as 1 have just now observed to ambassador Sparre, ia a postscript, which I communicate to you. if the thing be taken upon the foot beforementioned, it may go on; but otherwise nothing can be done. In a word, we must have money, and, after that, we must. know what they are in a condition to do in .England, and what part they expect the king should take, to put this design into motion, nod to sopport it." In Answer to baron Gortr, count GyUen-burg wrote to /him the .following very remark- i able Letter, dated at London, Dec. 4, If 14: t " As toon as I had received your excellency's (letter of the 8Srd past, I went to one of the . principals at his own house, with whom I have bad a long and intonate friendship. I shewed .him wear •encellewcy’s letter, which I nrforced the best I could. Whereupon be naked sue, i whether I had spoke of it to any one of his par-: ty? And, I telling hiih I had not, bedashed: ine, for the love of God, not to do it. We were i .made to hdiete from Aaugasn, said be, (that all: I., 171.7.--Imofm/tOH Sweden, [4UG went on currently: that baron Gortz had accepted our, offer, and had given positive assurances on the part of the king of Sweden, of his assistance. We have been pressed nn the affair of the money, and to form a scheme; and we have actually applied ourselves to both the one and the other. In the midstof all this, here are three posts arrived from Avignon, a ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Private Persons ['private persons']; Particular Man ['particular man'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- being agreed to, Mr. R. Walpole moved, and it was resolved, nem. con. " That whosoever shall advance or lend any sum, not exceeding 600,000l. for the service of the public by sea or laud, shall be repaid the same with interest, at 4/. per cent, out of the first Aid to be granted this session of parliament. " The putting the interest of this intended loan so low as 4/ per cent gave reason to surmise, that those, who had the management of his majesty’s treasury, designed to put on the same foot the interests of all public Funds:Whereupon, Mr. Lechmtre took notice, " That several schemes and proposals for reducing the National Debts had beeu printed and dispersed, which gave the persons concerned in the public securities the greater uneasiness, in that there was reason to apprehend, that those schemes qm/p abroad with the privity «o4 499] PARL. HISTORY, S Gxoxgk I. 1717. — /or borrowing 600,0001. [12G countenance of men in great places:That the general alarm which this bad occasioned among the monied men, might «very sensibly affect public credit, and be, at this juncture, of very dangerous consequence: To prevent which, he thought it necessary, to move, That the House would come to a resolution, effectually, to make good all parliamentary engagements. To this Mr. Robert Walpole immediately answered, That his majesty having, with great tenderness, recpmntended to them from the throne, the reducing, by degrees, the Debts of the Nation; and the Commons having afterwards in their Address to his majesty, promised to apply themselves, with all possible diligence and attention, to that great and necessary work, they ought to exerbthemselves, to make good that promise, and appoint a day to take that important matter into consideration: And he did not doubt but the Commons would then shew all possible regard to justice and public faith. He owned there had been, indeed, several Schemes published, relating to the Reduction of the National Debts, but that they were made by private persons, and, he did assure the House, without the participation of any of his majesty's ministers, and therefore they were not to be regarded; but that in a short -time, such proposals would be laid before the House, as. he hoped, would give them satisfaction, and meet with their approbation; therefore he moved, That Mr. Lechmere's motion might be thus altered, viz. *That this House will effectually make good the deficiencies ef all parliamentary engagements/' This, after a short debate, was carried in the affirmative, nem. con. But mention being made of the great services done by the Bank of England, and those, who by their money had supported the court interest and the present establishment. Mr. Aidabie took notifce of the management of some Directors of the Bank, who, upon the alluring prospect of gain, were as ready to sup-pert the late ministry. On the other hand, a courtier having defied any body to charge any breach of public faith, or of the laws, on the administration, since his majesty's happy accession to the throne, i Mr. Hungerford said, That this put him in mind of a Coronation, when the king’s champion coming into Westminster Hall, throws down one of his gloves to make the Challenge, but that he never saw any body so bold as to take it up. March 8. While the House was in a Committee on the Supply, Mr. Lechmcre told them, That he was sorry he found himself obliged to tike notice, that their late vote for a loan, at per cent interest, was like to prove ineffectual, there not being in three days time above 45,0001. subscribed to the loan of 600,000l. on the Land-tax. And therefore since the present exigency required a speedy Sapply, he thought it necessary, and therefore moved. That a day be Uppqiuted to consider farther of that matter * Mr. Robert Walpole seconded this motion, and said, That there .was the greater necessity for it, because he was informed, that some Stock Jobbers, in order to deter the parliament from pursuing the design of reducing the p'ublic Debts, had formed a combination to distress the government, and ruin public credit, which was the occasion that the late Vote for borrowing 600,000l. at 4/. per cent, had not had the desired effect. To this Mr. Lechmere answered, That as none but the most wicked of men could enter into such a combination against the good of their country, so the honourable member that spoke last, would do well to name them, that the House might shew the utmost resentment and iudig-tion against them. But that in his opinion, the ill success of the loan was rather mainly occasioned by some reflections on the monied men and Stock Jobbers, and by certain maxima lately advanced, viz. That the parliament may exert their authority to extricate themselves, by reducing the National Debts; that such maxims could not but alarm the persons concerned in the public securities; and the more, when they saw that a slur had been put upon the motion made three days before, That all parliamentary engagements shotild effectually be. made good." That he still thought such a Vote absolutely necessary both to remove people's fears and jealousies, and to vindicate the honour and justice of the nation; and that the’ same was entirely agreeable to his majesty's sentiments, who in his first Speech to this parliament, had been pleased to recommend to the Commons, in a particular manner, the strict observance of all parliamentary engagements, than which nothing could more contribute to the support of the credit of the nation; with which opinion of his majesty the Commons did entirely concur; and that he could not believe, that any of his majesty's ministers could be so regardless of his honour and known equity, or put so hard a thing upon him as to make him in the least contradict what lie had. in so solemn a manner declared from the throne. He added, That the Commons having already appointed a day to consider of the State of the Nation, with relation to the Public Debts, he would notanticipate that important affair: but he could not for^ bear declaring on this occasion his private opinion, that it would be the greatest ingratitude, as well as injustice, in the least to wrong those who had supported the government in the most pressing exigencies and perilous junctures, and, on all occasions, shewn their zeal and affection for the Protestant succession. That he had nothing to say, as to such public securities as. were redeemable by parliament; but as to Annuities granted for terms of years, he would be positive, that they could not be meddled with, without breaking in updn parliamentary engagements, and violating the public faith; since those annuities were not to be looked upon as debts, but as a sale of annual rents for a valuable consideration, of which contract the 487] PARL. HIST. 3 George 1. 1717. — Resolutions respecting the Public Debts. [4$£ parliament had proposed -and made the terms and conditions, and the rentees became purchasers upon the parliamentary faith and security. And that, besides the injustice of break, ing through a national contract, these annuities could not be touched, without occasioning great confusion and disputes in private families, by reason that most of the said annuities had been settled for portions, jointures and the like. * Mr. Walpole in answer to this ', declared, That there never had been a design to u ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- any. He was seconded by Mr, Hutchesonf who endeavoured to shew, That the nation would scarce gain this year 100,000l. by that bargain; and therefore he tyas for putting off this affair till the next session to give the communities time to make more reasonable proposals. He was answered by Mr. Lowndes, member for St. Maw's, and secretary to the treasury, who said, He had much ado to find out the meaning of the 'member who spoke last; that in the same speech he had advanced, . That the nation would gain nothing this year, and. then owned that the nation would gain 100,000l. That supposing the gain to be no more than the last mentioned sum, yet the.Proposal of the So.uth-Sea Company was not to be rejected, since it would enable the nation to begin to reduce the public debts. That in case the proposals of the communities were not thought reasonable, nothing, in' his opinion, could be more effectual to bring the communities to reason than a vote of that House; and therefore the Commons needed but declare their intentions, and he did . not doubt but the communities would comply therer with. ' After Mr. Hutcheson had replied something by way of explanation, Mr. Hungerford said, That for his own part, he ever was of opinion, that the parliamentary faith ought to be preserved untouched and ro-violable; that by keeping up the national credit, England was glutted with money, and was become the general bank of Europe, while roost of the neighbouring states were reduced to streights, and wanted specie. That France bad lost her credit, or rather never had any; and if there was any money in that kingdom, it was in thebands of the regeqt; for what purpose he could not tell. That though the parliamentary faith ought to remain inviolate, yet he did not doubt but the wisdom of the representatives of the nation could find legal ways to reduce the interest of public securities, since the parliamentary faith consisted only in the securing the payment of the capital sums advanced by private persons for the use of the public. That be did not understand wby the public should pay a higher interest than a private man. That he knew by experience, and in the course of his business, that money may be had at 4/. per, ceut. on good securities; that there was on the floor a member of the House who had lent him 20,000l. at that rate; and therefore it was to be hoped, that the communities, duly weighing all this, would offer to the House more reasonable proposals. Mr. John Smith backed Mr. Hungerford, and said, That one would have expected, that the communities and monied men, who, to make themselves popular, boast of their zeal for the present government, should orr this occasion, have given convincing proofs of it, by contributing more than they offered to do, towards reducing the public debts, and easing the landed men, who for so many years have born the greatest part of the national burdens. That, in his opinion, it was of dangerous consequence to borrow money of the communities upon the foot of their proposals, since by the granting them a term of years, the parliament debarred themselves of the liberty of taxing public fonds, which they had a right to do, in case of extreme necessity, without violating the parliamentary faith. That, for his own part, he thought the communities ought to be satisfied with one year’s notice; but the season being so far advanced, that there could not be above five months before the next session, he was.for putting off this business till then:and, in t^e mean time, the Communities might maturely consider of it. Hereupon, Mr. Hop kins, * a person extremely well con- * This was the Mr. Hopkins alluded to by Pope, in his Epistle to lord Bathurst, on the Use of Riches: " P. What Riches give ns let us then enquire s " Meat, fire, and clothes. B. What more? P. Meat, Clothes, and Fire. " Is this too little? would you more than live? " Alas! ’tis more than Turner finds they give. " Alas! ’tis more than (all his visions past), " Unhappy ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- session; and I presume not to say, that we were deceived into the Vote then given for maintaining 32,000 men, because we always proceed with the utmost eaution and circumspection, and because the deep designs of the Swedish Plot, which occa-Wooed such terrible apprehensions amongst us have since been fully discovered to the world. " But however wisely it was then done, I hope •ever again to see, either the same ’number, or near the same corps, after some artful reductions y coutinued in this nation in time of peace, on any pretence, on any apprehensions whatsoever. •* i will not trouble you, Sir, with my remarks on the fallacy of those reductions. They have been sufficiently exposed by a gentleman (Mr. R. Walpole) who is better informed of the secret of that affair, and who, I am glad to find, when he is contending for the service of his eountry, is no more afraid than myself, of being ealled a Jacobite, by those, who want other arguments to support their debates. " Our present consideration is, whether there are any reasons to induce us, as oor circumstances now stand, to keep up above 16,000 meu, with officers for almost doable that number:an'd whether, if we should consent to keep them up, we should act, as his majesty desires we should, agreeably to the constitution of these kingdoms, and consequently to the principles an which his government is founded. " Now in virtue of that freedom of speech we are all intitled to, I beg leave to declare my opinion, That the keeping up tlfe number proposed, is so far from being necessary to our protection^ that it wilt be inconsistent with oor safety, and an excessive burthen to his majesty’s g.>od subjects. Nor do I thiak it possible any arguments can be invented, none I am sure have been yet offered, to incline a House of Common* at this time, when we. are in a profound tranquillity, some domestic feuds ex-oaptod^to submit to that, which every member! every lover of liberty most own, abstractedly considered, to be a grievance, and sneb a on* as ought never to be submitted to, but in that most desperate and deplorable circumstance, where it is to be chosen as the less evil. " I know these assertions interfere with what is laid down in the second paragraph of his majesty’s Speech. But we are to consider that Speech as the composition and advice of . his ministry, and are therefore at liberty to debate every proposition in it; especially those which seem rather calculated for the meridian of Germany, than of Great Britain, "It is the only infelicity of his That he is unacquainted with our language and constitution; and it is therefore the more incumbent on his British ministers to inform him. That our government does not stand on the same foundation with his German dominions, ' which, by reason of their situation, and the < nature of their constitution, are obliged to keep up armies in time of peace. Nor is it in tmr least to be wondered at, that his majesty, who hath spent the earlier part of his life in those; dominions, should think sixteen, or even 32,000 men, might be continued in. so rich and powerful a nation as this is, without being a burthen to it. But when he shall come to understand, that the smaller number, in time of peace, would be destructive to that security and ease of hi* people, for which he expresses so tender a regard, he will doubtless be convinced, that thosa act must conformably to their duty and his in* terest, who, as true subjects of Great Britain, are against continuing more troops, than have-been usually thought and found sufficient, iff the same situation of affairs, for the support of the crown and the safety of the kingdom. uI am therefore at a loss, to conceive how gentlemen can persuade themselves, that the complying With this extraordinary demand, would promote his majesty’s service. For it supposes not only a distrust, but a weakness m the government: as if neither the affections of the people at home, nor the Treaties of our .allies abroad, were to be depended on: which is a thought so injurious, so contradictory to some solemn assurances from the throne, that no one will presume to advance it openly in the House or elsewhere; and yet it is all, in my humble apprehension, included in this motion. Nothing, indeed, can alienate the hearts of the people from his majesty; but soch attempts have formerly proved fetal to princes of less consummate wisdom and virtue. Nor! are we to imagine, that the some grievance is not equally mischievous in the reign of a good prince as of a bad one. It is sometimes more so, because less expected, and less guarded against. " Surely his majesty will have no just causa to doubt the continuance of that seal for the’ good of our country, which, he is pleased to say hath been so eminently conspicuous in every session of this- parliament, if wC make the fate of other nations a document to-ourselves on-this occasion j if wc thank, shaft she keepiqgep 1 109} PARL. HISTORY, 4G$o*v» I. and I will not run back to former reigns. But I cannot forbear observing what [Mr. Snell] my very good friend near me bath already hinted, that it was the great grievance complained of in the Bill of Rights, * and was that from which the Revolution was to deliver us. King William himself, after the Peace of Ryswick, could not obtain •hove 10,000 men, though be bad then a more enterprizing and a more powerful prince to deal with, than any now m this part of the world. And the proceeding of that House of Commons must be ever justified by those, who have the least concern for our constitution, notwithstanding some ungrounded insinuations, that ft involved us in a long and expensive way Besides, it is every year declared in the Act of Mutiny and Desertion, That the keeping up a standing Army in time of peace is against law; apd as tha freeing as from it was one of the ends of the Revolution, so no doubt the pre- * SecvoL 6, p.484. serving us for aver from an attempt of the like nature, was one of those innumerable glorious advantages proposed by the Act of Succession. " But it hath been urged, That the consent of parliament reconciles aU; and that forces, so continued, are not to be accounted a standing army, because they are intended to keep out a Standing army; which with the noble lord*! leave, [lord Molesworth] who makes the distinction, is a notion too fine, too chimerical fo be maintained. " I know indeed it is explained both in the Bill of Rights, end in the Act of Mutiny and Desertion* (hat the keeping up a steading army in time of peace is illegal only if done without consent of parliament: now, this in no sort weakens the argument, as to the inconvenience and oppression of which I am speaking. For though the parliament, in these declaratory laws, seems to put in its claim only against the incrpachoients of the crown, from whence ft supposed such oppressions were more likely to come, than from the representatives of the people; yet the consent of parliament cannot alter the nature of things, cannot binder the same causes from producing the same (effects. An army, though kept up by the consent of parliament, will, like other armies, soon know its own Strength, will in probability pursue the dictates of self preservation, and rather choose tp dissolve that authority with which it is incompatible, than tamely submit to its own dissolution, t An ardiy, though kept up by consent of parliament, if it bath no enemies abroad, will be apt to make depredations at home; and I wish there hath not been something of that kind done this last year: I wish we bave no complaints from some of our own most considerable parliamentary corporations, of soldiers demanding free quarter, and insulting the chief magistrates for exerting the power we have lodged with them, and endeavouring to redress thft grievances of the poor innkeepers and inhabitants. Nay, the consent of parliament is so far from altering the nature and genius of armies, that a parliament army, consisting of about the number now demanded, once committed greater outrages, and gave a deeper wound to the constitution, than all the armies of the crown have ever done; and that army was the creature of a parliament which had established itself. But if we were to admit for argument's, sake, that the consent of parliament could make armies iqpre tame and ductile than they would otherwise he, 1 think, however, it would not be advisable for a parliament, that intends to act rationally and agreeably either to the principles, on which his majesty's government, or its own power is founded, to famttia-. rise a military force to this free nation. For the very name and terror of it would, without oppression, awe and subdue the spirits of the people, extinguish their love of liberty, and beget a mean and abject acquiescence in slavery. " Sir, we have already suspended some laws and repealed others, to comply with the necessities of the administration; bat pray let u# sm PARL. HISTORY, T George I. 1717. — itfr. S&#pen commtied to the Ttywer. [512 nbt go farther, let us not go on to continue the army, or the greatest part of it: for so long. as it is continued, so long is the whole constitution suspended, or, at least in the mercy of those whom we arm against it." , Mr. SlMPPEN COMMITTED TO THE TOWER for reflecting upon the King*s' Person and vernment..] The Expressions in the above Speech, which are distinguished by being printed in Italic characters, gave off* nee to several members, and in particular to Mr. Lecb-t mere, who having taken them down in writing, urged, " That those Words were a scandalous Invective against the King’s Person and Government, of which the House ought to shew the highest resentment, and therefore moved, - That the member who spoke those offensive - Words should be sent to the Tower." Mr. L ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and companies to regiments, were insensibly increased; so that in the year 1677, they were got up to 5890 men. Few sessions passed, but they were taken notice of in the House of Commons, and though money was not asked of parliament for their support, yet they occasioned a general uneasiness. " About that time there was a prospect of war with France, on which pretence an army was raised. But the war not proceeding, an Act passed, which gave the king 619, 388/. tor disbanding the army. When the parliament met again, they were told from the throne, * That the Forces were still kept on foot for the * preservation of our neighbours, who otherwise * had absolutely despaired, and for preserving * what was left in Flanders; and that the king was confident no body would repine at the * employing that Money, which was raised for ‘the disbanding of the army, for the continu- * ance of it. " This did not satisfy the House, and they came to a Resolution, That it was necessary, * for the safety of his majesty’s person, and * preserving the peace of the government, that * all Forces, raised since the 29th of September * 1677, should be disbanded*.’ Whereupon that parliament, which went under the name of the Pensioner-Parliament, was dissolved. * See vol. 4, p. 1049. 2 L 515] PARL. HISTORY, 4 George I. 1717. — in the Common* on the [516 " The new Parliament which met on the 6th of March following, had the same apprehensions of regular Troops. Money was given to disband them, and the Act directed, that it should be paid into the Chamber of London; and commissioners of their own were appointed to see it applied to that use. Whatever diffidence of the king this might imply, I do not find that any member lost his liberty for freedom of speech, on that occasion. The opinion that parliament had of a standing army, appears in the Resolution1 they came to, ‘ That * the continuance of-standing forces in this na- * tion, other than the Militia, was illegal, and * a great grievance and vexation to the people.’ ‘ I shall now take leave to consider the arguments advanced for continuing 16, 347 men for the ensuing year, it is said, That there is n disaffected party in the kingdom, which makes an army necessary. If this argument will prevail, it is strange it has not prevailed for 600 years past, since no period within that time can be assigned, wherein this argument was not as stroug as in the present. During the long controversy between the Houses of York and Lancaster, touching the Right of Succession, in which eadh side had its turn of being uppermost, one would think it should have been natural for the prevailing party, in order to their security, to have insisted on the continuance of their regular troops, at least for a time. There was a Pretender to the crown, who had a strong party in the nation, and the government was insecure till the spirit of Rebellion was suppressed. It might then with aa appearance of reason have been insisted on, That the taxes on the disaffected should be increased, that those, who occasioned the expence, should bear the burden tilt the danger was over. Why this sort of reasoning did not then prevail is obvious. They saw it was unsafe to trust any prince, even one of their own setting up, with such a power, which, if ill apr plied, might enslave them, M Another period of time I shall take notice of is, that of queen Elizabeth’s reign. The disaffection to her in the beginning of it was great, occasioned by the Reformation in Religion, and the application of Ecclesiastical Revenues to secular uses. Many plots there were against her life, Spain, one of the greatest powers in Europe at that, time, attempted an invasion, and a more proper juncture could not have happened, wherein to have asked for an awny. But instead of that, the greatest part of the forces then got together to oppose the invasion consisted of militia, and as soon as the Arinado was scattered, the army was disbanded. That queen being sensible, that ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ber of troops which the Commons bad thought fit to keep standing, was absolutely necessary for the security and safety both of the government and uation; and thereupon it was no less necessary to make a law, to keep that army within the rules of duty and discipline, unless they would render useless those very forces which must be owned to be necessary. The Earl Poulet enforced what had already been suggested, about the danger of a standing army made subject to martial law. The Duke of Newcastle maintained on the contrary, That the forces now on foot were necessary both for the support of the government, and the protection of our allies; that their lordships ought to consider, that when the late Rebellion broke out, we had double the number of regular troops, and yet the government was obliged, not only to send for some regiments from Ireland, but also for a body of auxiliary troops from Holland; and that since the said forces were necessary, the bill in question, which was only to render them useful, was no less necessary. The Lord North and Grey said, That before the noble peer who spoke last was born, he had seen the time, when the nation was in danger of losing their liberties by a Standing Army; and •ben his lordship endeavoured tc shew, that the power of life and death, which by this bill was given to a court martial, was unnecessary, unusual, and unjust. — It being theu about five in the evening, The Duke of Buckingham told their lordships, That in his opinion, a great deal of time Ml] had been spent to little purpose:for, if their lordships would enter regularly upon the merits of this bill, they ought to be in a committee, where every lord would have an opportunity to speak as often as he thought fit. Notwithstanding this, the debate.still continued, and The Lord Harcourt urged, That the parliament, which is the representative of the whole nation, were ever extreme jealous of the legislative power, with which they are rested; and that the Lords, in a particular manner, ought to be tender of it, because it is a branch of their prerogative to be the supreme court of judicature; but that by this bill, whereby the / king was enabled to establish courts martial, with power to try pnd determine any offences specified in the Articles of War, the parliament vested a sole legislative power in the crown, which was communicated and delegated to a council of war:That this bill sets aside all other laws, both civil and ecclesiastical, in relation to the soldiery; and gives courts martial a larger jurisdiction than seemed necessary for maintaining discipline in the army, such jurisdiction extending not only to mutiny, desertion, and breach of duty, but also to all immoralities, and other offences, which might be committed by any officer or soldier, towards any of his fellow subjects, whereby the law of the land might either be obstructed or superseded by a court martial: that the officers constituting a court martial did, at once, supply the place of judges and jurymen, and ought therefore to be upon their oath, upon their trying any offence whatsoever; whereas it is provided by' this bill, that they shall be sworn upon their trying such offences only as are punishable by death. That martial courts assume to themselves an arbitrary and unprecedented authority, of which they had a fresh remarkable instance, an en-sigu o(the guards having been sentenced to death without being heard, which was contrary to Magna Charta, and to the birth-rights and privileges of Englishmen; and therefore they ought to restrain so dangerous a power. - The lord Harcourt was supported by lord viscount Townshend, but was opposed by the lord Coningsby. Lord Cozoper said, That he had maturely considered the affair now in agitation, not as a person in a public station, but as a private, unprejudiced man; and that he was convinced an judgment and conscience, that it is necessary both for the support pi the present happy establishment, and the security of the nation, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- les the 2nd, to the end, that due consideration might have been had by parliament of the duty enjoined by each article to the soldiers, and of the measure of their punishment; whereas the sanction oTpar* liament is now given by this Bill to what they have had no opportunity to consider. 10. Because the clause in this Bill enabling his majesty to establish Articles of War, anil erect Courts-martial, with power to try and determine any offences to be specified in such AHjcle9, and to indict punishments for the same, within this kingdom i^ time of peace, doth (as we conceive) in all those instances, vest a sole legislative power in the crown; which power, how safely soever it may be lodged with his present majesty, and how tenderly soever it may be exercised by him, may yet prove of dangerous consequence, should it be dvhwn into precedent in future reigns. " 11. Because the clause in the Bill, alMged to be made for enabling honest creditors to recover their just debts from soldiers, seems to us rather to give a protection to the soldier than any real advantage to his creditor, or ether t person having just cause of action against him; it protects the person of a soldier from execution, as well as the Mesne process, for any debt under 10/.; and it protects the estate and effects as well as the person of-every soldier from' all other suits but for debt, where the cause of action doth not amount to the like sum; and in other cases, where the cause of action exceeds, that value, plaintiffs are in many instances put under such unreasonable difficulties, that, we conceive, before they can be allowed even to commence their suit, their bare compliance therewith may become more grievous to them than the loss- of their debt, or a quiet submission to the wrong sustained; by which means his majesty’s good subjects may be highly injured in their properties, and insulted in their persons by the soldiery, and yet be deprived of the legal remedies appointed for the redress of such grievances. ; *W. Ebor’, Compton, Dartmouth, Hay, Straf- , ford, Boyle, Guilford, Greenwich, Weston, Trevor, Fran. Cestriens’, Bute, Tadcaster, Bingley, Scarsdale, 'Litchfield, Foley, Mansell, Fr. Rof-j fen’, Abingdon, Bristol, North and Grey, Hai> ’ court, Bathurst, Gower, Poulet, Northampton, j P. Hereford, Montjoy, Oxford*; *1 j Debate on the State of the Trade; Feb. %7. The Commons proceeded to take in- to, consideration the.matters, of the Petition of several merchants and owners of shipping, and other petitions which had been presented to the. House, in relation to the Trade to and from Sweden: and the extracts of the Letters between the Secretaries of State, and his majes.- * " No subject produced so much heat and altercation in parliament during this session, a» did the bill for regulating the land forces, and punishing mutiny and desertion:a bill which was looked upon as an encroaohment upon the liberties and constitution of England, inasmuch as it established martial law, which wrested . from the civil magistrate the cognizance of crimes and oiisdemeanors committed by the soldiers' and officers of the krmy:a jurisdiction inconsistent with the genius and disposition of the people. The bill passed by a great majority; but divers lords entered a protest.* — Smollett. " As soon as the parliament broke, up, the Speakers against the Mutiny-Bill published their speeches, for which they were severely censored by the author of The Critic, and their speeches boldly examined. The king also, soon after the end of the session, ordered Articles to be published for the Regulation and Government of the Army, pursuant to the power lodged in him by (he act.* — Tied*]. 49] PARE. HIST. 4 George I. 1718. ty’sresidents in Holland; tied also the Memo--rials which Mr. Jackson presented to the Re* gency of Sweden, and the Answers to them, ! were read: after which Mr. JacksOn being! called in, Mr. Craggs asked him, whether he wasj of opinion, That if the trade were opened with Swed ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Byng’s instructions, and in all other respects, in this whole affair, his majesty had acted by the advice of his privy council; that he was one of that number; and bethought it an honour to have advised his majesty to these measures, because he was persuaded they intirely agreed with the honour and interest of his country; that he doubted not, but, upon the strictest examination, these measures would be approved of by all true Englishmen; and that he was ready to answer for them with his head. This speech delivered with becoming vehemence, made a great impression on the whole assembly, and though several peers still urged, that the making war before the declaring of it, was a manifest violation of the law of nations; and others raised less material objections; yet the question being put upon the lord Carteret’s motion, the same was carried in the affirmative by 83 voices against 50. The Speakers for the Address were the lords Carteret and Tenham, and the earls of Sunderland and Stanhope; and on the other side, the dukes of Bucking-you VII. * ham, Devonshire, and Argyle, the earls of Nottingham, Cowper, Oxford, and* Ilay, the lords. North and and Grey/and Harcourt. The Lords’ Address of .] Nov. 13, The Lords presented their Address to his Majesty, as follows: Most Gracious Sovereign, * We, your majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, do return yonr majesty our humble thanks lor your most gracious speech from the throne:and desire to express to your majesty the true sensethrs House has of your care in preserving the public peace, and the just balance of power, in Europe; and of the tender regard which your majesty has shewn for the trade of your subjects. The considerable reduction of the Land Forces which your majesty has made at'this time, must fully satisfvall your subjects, that you will never desire the continuance of more troop9 than what are absolutely neces- " sary for their safety. In a most particular manner we thank your majesty, for having obtained such great and further securities of the Succession to these kingdoms in your royal family, as will, under the blessing of God, perpetuate the Protestant Succession undisturbed. We most heartily congratulate your majesty upon the seasonable success of your naval Forces; and beg leave to assure your majesty that this House will, to the utmost of their power, stand by, and support your majesty, in the vigorous pursuit of those prudent and necessary measures your majesty has taken, to secure the trade and quiet of these kingdoms, ' and the tranquillity of Europe." The King’s Answer.] His Majesty returned this answer: "My Lords; " I thank you for this Address, so full of duty to me, and affection to yourcobmry. I cannot doubt but my endeavours, for the happiness of my people and the tranquillity of Europe, will attain the ends proposed, when' the enemies to both shall see me supported therein by this House with so much warmth and zeal."- Debate iif the Commons on the Address of. Thanks.] The Commons being returned to their House, Mr. Craggs, by his majesty’s com- -mand, presented to the House copies, in Latin, of several Treaties, with a List of them; and the title of the copies of the said Treaties were read, and then the lord Hinchingbroke moved, " That an humble Address be presented to his majesty, returning the thanks of the House for his most gracious' Speech from the throne, and for the many and great instances which he has therein given to his people, of his constant endeavours for their security and welfare; . That the House has intire satisfaction in those measures which his majesty has already taken for strengthening the Protestant Succession, and establishing a lasting tranquillity in Europe; and particularly in relation to the crown of Spain; and i» resolved to enable his mtyesty, 2 0 id 563] FARL. HISTORY, SG&oml. mt. — Dcbale on ikeAd&rm tfllmh.[566 in concurrence cwith his allies, not only to re* sen ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- being put, That this Bill, thus amended, be reported the Monday following; it was carried in the affirmative T>y 55 voices against 33. Accordingly, on the 22d, the said amendments were reported, agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be’engrossed; and the next day it was read the third time, passed, and sent down to the Commons, after which the Lords adjourned to the 7th of January. The King's Message on declaring War with Spain.] Dec. 17. Mr, Boscawen, by his majesty’s command-, acquainted the House, " That •all his majesty’s endeavours, and those of the most Christian king, to procure redress of the many iqjuries done to the subjects of Great Britain by the. king of Spain, to the unspeakable detriment of the trade of these kingdoms; ar even to obtain a discontinuance of the unjust hostilities carrying on by that crown, baying proved ineffectual, his majesty had found it necessary to declare War with Spain." _ Debate in the Commons on the War with After the reading of this Message, Mr. Trebymoved, " That an humble Address •be presented to his majesty, to return his majesty the most unfeigned Thanks of the House for having communicated to them the necessary resolution of declaring War against Spain; and to asspre his majesty, that this House will, with the greatest cheerfulness and with the utmost vigour, assist and support his majesty in the war with the king of Spain, until Spain, is reduced to accept of reasonable terms of peace and to agree to such conditions of trade and commerce, as this nation is justly intitled to by their several treaties." % Mr. Trehy was seconded by Mr. Western, Dr. Charles Trimnell. See voh 6, p. 873. member for Sudbury, but Mr. Shippen, Mr’ Freeman, sir TtiQinqsHanmer, and some others’ excepted either against the, motion or against some expressions in it, which occasioned a warm debate. Some members alledging, " That they did not see the necessity of declaring war against Spain, and that they rather were inclined to believe that the grievances complained of by our merchants might have been redressed in an amicable manner, " Colonel SlanAape, member for Derby, told the House, that he had bad the honour to serve his majesty as his envoy to the king of Spain, and he could assure them, that he hud present-^ ed at least five ancf twenty Memorials to tlis^t court, in relation to. the complaints of our merchants, without any success. Hereupon Mr. Methuen, member for Brackley, inter- posed, and accounted for the dilatorines6 of the court of Madrid in the dispatch of commercial affairs, occasioned by the different regulations and judicatories in the several kingdoms, provinces, and ports of Spain; which might be the reason why the grievances complained of by our traders had not been redressed so soon as might have heen expected. A member having hinted that the. ministers had shewn no great concern for the trade and interest of the nation, since it appeared by the Answer, from a Secretary of State, to the Marquis de Monteleone’s Letter, that they would havep&ssed by the violations of the Traties of Commerce, provided Spain had accepted the terms of the Quadruple Alliance:that his majesty did not seek to aggrandize himself by any new acquisition, but was rather inclined to sacrifice something of his own to procure the general quiet and tranquillity; that nobody could yet tell how far that sacrifice was to extend, hut certainly it was a very uncommon piece of condescension; Mr. Shippen went yet farther, and insinuated that this war seemed to be calculated for another meridian. But wrapt up the innuendo so dextrously, that no exception was taken at it. Mr. Horatio Walptte also found faulf with the Treaty of Quadruple Alliance, particularly as to the disposition of Sicily in favour of the emperor, which was a breach of the Treaty of Utrecht; and his brother Mr. Robert Walpole Exclaimed against the injustice of attacking the Spanish fleet before the Declaration of War. They were answered by Mr. Craggs, Mr. Lechmere, Mr. Aislabie and Mr. T. Broderick. Sir Joseph Jekyll said, That some weeks before, when this affair was first mentioned in the House, he was shy of giving his opinion, because be bad not then examined the several steps that had been taken in it; but that now he was fully convinced, that if there was any injustice, it was on the side of the king of Spain; and that the conduct of his majesty and his ministers was entirely agreeable to the law of nations and the rules of justice and equity. Was it just, added lie, in the king of PARL. HISTORY, 5 George Spain to attack the emperor's dominions [meaning Sardinia] while he was engaged in a war with the Turks, without any declaration of war? Was it just in the same prince to invade the dominions ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of Parliament MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of parliament' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and the marquis de Prik, governor of the Austrian Netherlands, six battalions of Imperialists. The duke of Ornleas offered no less than 20 battalions, bat it was not thought proper to accept his offer. These precautions taken by the king were very just, but as, it happened they proved needless. The Spanish fleet came with a fair wind as far as cape Fi-nistere, when a violent storm arose, which lasted two days and two nights. The fleet was entirely dispersed, and disabled from pursuing their course.*’ Tindal. naked, arid exposed to the insults of a pro* voked enemy abroad. He also reflected on some steps, whereby the discontents had been much encreased at home; and, among others, took notice of a bill lately brought into the House of Lords, [meaning an Act for settling the Peerage of Great Britain] which could not; fail making most-of the Scots peers implacable enemies. He added, That though he could hot forbear blaming the conduct of the minis* ters in some particulars, yet he still retained the same thoughts with respect to his majesty, and would readily concur with the House, in giving him the most hearty proofs of their zeal and affection for his majesty’s person and go* vernment; and even go so far as to give his vote] for suspending the Habeas Corpus Act, in case of necessity; but that in his opinion, it became the wisdom of that House, to know whether the advices his majesty had received1 of an intended invasion, were well grounded be *, fore they either alarmed the public, or engaged the nation in needless expences. This speech was answered by Mr. Craggs, who said, That as to what has been suggested about the.Peerage Bill, that affair being yet depending in the other House, it was unparliamentary to take notice of it, before, it came regularly before them:But that how* ever, he would before-hand venture to say, that; as it was a most gracious condescension in his majesty, to suffer a branch of his royal prerogative to be restrained, in order to secure the, liberty of parliaments, so he doubted not, that; when that bill came down to ^hemit would be unanimously approved. That as to the advices the king had communicated to his parliament of the Invasion with which his dominions were threatened, though it was unusual for the sovereign to declare his intelligence, yet his majesty had been most graciously pleased to tell them from whence he received his in^dation.. ' That therefore it would be want Ortfespect, to question his majesty’s intelligence^- 'and he was sure no member of that House bad authority to do it. That he hoped there was no great danger from the Invasion with which they were 'threatened:but that it would be the highest piece of imprudence not to take all the necessary precautions to repel.any insults from the Spaniards, and to defeat all the designs of his majesty’s* and the nation’s enemies, both at home and abroad. And as to the conduct of his majesty’s ministers, on which that member was pleased to reflect, if a motion were made for appointing a day to inquire into the same, he would readily second it. After this, the ^notion, for an Address to his majesty passed into an unanimous Resolution, and without losing time in drawing it up in form, it was farther resolved. That the said Resolution be laid before his majesty by the whole House; which being done accordingly tha next day, the king returned this Answer. " Gentlemen; * I take this Address as a fresh instance of that duty and affection which you have so often ISfr] VJ^M&.5Q$OMtlAm^mXty*SpitckatikCloutftteSm^ [<*X> xpressed for my person aad government. I trust in God it will enable me to defeat the designs of our enemies, and to provide effectually for what is dearest tome, the security and welfare of my people." . Mr. Freeman*t Motion for adjourning the Call of the House.] April 14. Upon reading the Order of the day for the House to be called oyer: Mr. Freeman made a speech importing, That some weeks before, he thought it necessary that the absent members should ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- of a stile unheard of among great princes* has at last proceeded to acknowledge the Pre- tender. " As this news has given great surprise to all Europe, I question, not .hut it will, be«o? fOi] PARL.HIST. 0Ge«u» I. 1719< — TfcKing’s Speechon OpeningthtSeuion. [609 etived by •vary good Briton with indignation and contempt. " His our happiness at this juncture, to find ourselves assisted by the greatest powers of Europe against, an enemy that has no allies, but those who would betray the governments under which they live and are protected. * Gentlemen of the House of Commons'; « I thank you very heartily for the supplies you have granted me this year; The manner in which you have raised them, without any new burthen to my people, the great addition ynu have made to the fund for sinking the debts of the nation, the discharge Of the Exchequer Bills, and; the provision you have made to pay whatever remains justly due to foreign states and princes, are the strongest proofs of your wisdom, as well as of your zeal for my service, and the good of your country. You may observe, I have hitherto been very cautious of making use of the power you have given me, to increase our forces by sea and land. If our enemies should oblige me to a greater expence, it shall be employed for your service. This is what the trust you repose in me requires at my hands, and what I owe to •o dutiful and affectionate* a House of Commons. " My Lords and Gentlemen; u There being nothing more desirable, at all times, than a firm union between Proiestauts; I reflect with satisfaction upon the law you have, passed this session, which will, I hope, prove effectual tp that purpose. As it is a signal instance of moderation and indulgence in Our Established Church; ao I hope it will beget such a return of gratitude from all dissenting Protestants, as will greatly tend to her honour and security; both which I shall ever have near at heart. «I have always looked upon the glory of a sovereign, and the liberty of the subject, as inseparable; and think it is the peculiar happiness of a British king to reign over a firte people. As the civil rights therefore, and privi? leges of all my subjects, and especially of my two Houses of Parliament, do justly chum my most tender concern; if any provision, designed to perpetuate these blessings to your posterity, remains imperfect, for want of time during this session, maturely to discuss and settle matters* of so great importance, I promise myself, you will take the first opportunity to render my wishes for your happiness complete and effectual, and to strengthen the union, which is of so much consequence to the welfare of this kingdom. vIf the circumstances of my affairs shall allow of my going abroad this summer, I shall take the same care of your interest as if I remained here. The many negotiations which will be oa foot to restore the peace of the -North, in which the trade and tradquillity of this kingdom may be very much concerned, will make my presence there of great use to $fie my dominions; And, as in that case I design, by the blessing of God, to meet you early next winter; I will only recommend to yon most earnestly, that, laying aside all animosities, you would, in your several countries and stations, nse your utmost endeavours to preserve the public peace, and see a due execution of the laws." Then the Lord Chancellor prorogued the parliament to the 19th of May following; and it was afterwards, by several prorogations, farther prorogued to the 83d of November*. FIFTH SESSION of tub FIFTH PARLIAMENT of GREAT BRITAIN. The Kings Speech on Opening the Session.] Nov. 23. The King went to the House of Peers with the usual state, when the Lord Chancel* lor, by his majesty’s command, read the following Speech to both Houses: u My Lords and Gentlemen; M Hie satisfaction, with which I always meet you, is very much increased at this time, when it has pleased Almighty God so to strengthen the arms of Great Britain and our confederates, a ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- n the continuance of my best offices every where, in behalf of the Protestant cause and interest." Debate in the Commons on the King’s .] The Commons being returned to their House, the earl of Hertford moved for an Address of Thanks, Though this motion was carried without dividing, yet it did not pass without opposition. Mr. Shippers in particular said, " That no man was more ready than himself to concur in giving his majesty unfeigned assurances of the Mai and affection of that House to his person and government, iu returning him Thanks for his care and endeavours to procure the tranquillity of Europe, and in congratulating his safe return amongst us; bu he could not forbear observing that his majesty’s Speech contained many heads, of different nature, and of great importance; and as he remembered that this House had formerly been reflected on, for approving the measures of the ministry by the lump, and without knowing what those measures were, he therefore was of opinion, they ought to proceed with caution in this juncture, the -rather, because mention was made in his majesty’s Speech, of a tiling of the highest consequence, viz. the altering some part of our constitution; that it was plain enough that thereby was meant the Bill of Peerage; but it was surprising, that this affair should be brought again upon the stage, after it had miscarried the last session in the other House, and that the major part of this House had expressed such an aversion to it; concluding with a motion to congratulate his majesty upon his safe return, and to give him Thanks for part of his Speech, and appoint a day to take the rest into consideration." Mr. Herne hereupon seconded Mr. Shippen; but Mr. Hungerford foreseeing, that if the House ahould divide, ceed to satisfy the justice of the nation; and to take such methods as they shall judge •proper for restoring commerce, and pubnc credit.. s County of Chester. Setting forth, That the Petitioners have daily experience of the calamitous and mischievous effects of the mismanagement, avarice, and boundless ambition, of the late Directors of the South Sea Company, theiij aiders, abettors, and confederates, in the intended destruction of their country:That the Petitioners cannot enumerate the various misfortunes which have attended this wicked project; but find they have Just cause to lament the small export Sod consumption of the' manufactures and product of this-kingdom, the groat decay of far Justicetm trade, as well as the loss of public credit: Thai they submit whether such grievances may not be the overthrow of their happy constitution, if not timely redressed: and praying, That such measures may be taken as may make trad* flourish, credit be restored, and justice done to an injured people. Borough of Shrewsbury. Setting forth, That they are deeply affected with the present calamities that many thousands of families in this nation labour under, from the impositions, and fraudulent practices of the late South Sea Directors, their aiders and abetters, by the corrupt management of the stock of the Company, for their own private advantage, to the great decay of trade, the sinking of public credit, and the utter ruin of many of their fellow subjects; and returning their thanks to the House forjheir unwearied, endeavours to deliver the unhappy sufferers, lay open the vile mystery of iniquity, and Temedy the evils: And praying the continue ance of the same, for the discovering and punishing 1 the authors and contrivers of these misfortunes, suitable to the nature -of their crimes. * County of Dorset. Setting forth, -That from the treacherous practices of the late Directors and Manager* of the South Sea Company, and of those by whom they have been guided and influenced, not only the credit of this flourishing, and once happy nation, is almost, if not irretrievably lost, and thereby the rents, and revenues, trade, and commerce, of the kingdom, become precarious:but also a great number of innocent people have been seduced, and led awaybj them, to the utter ruin of themselves, and those who have depended upon them: and praying relief. City of Bristol. Setting forth, That the Petitioners being truly sensible of the extraordinary care, and diligent endeavours, that have been used to discover, and bring to condign punishment, those voracious Robbers of their Country, and Mismanage!* of the South Sea stock, and their' accomplices; who, to aggrandize their families, have unjustly amassed vast sums of money, destroyed our credit, and ruined many thousands of their fellow subjects:• and praying. That no man's greatness, ill-gotten ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- erewith, and their secret confederates; who have not only endeavoured to deprive the public of what had been done for it, but have actually ruined many thousands of private families, and shook the very credit of the nation, to answer their avaricious and ambitious designs: and praying, That restitution may be made to an injured state and deluded people. Town of Beverley. Setting forth, That the petitioners, amongst the rest of a distressed people, beg leave to represent their detestation and abhorrence of the vile practices and scandalous proceedings, of the late directors of the South Sea; who have abused the trust reposed in them for the common good, and taken the advantage of the the ignorance and credulity of multitudes, to the ruin of them, and no less to the -detriment of the whole nation; since a general decay of trade, failure of manufactures, and loss of credit is the consequence: and praying relief. 1 Borough of Boston. Setting forth, That they think it their duty to represent the unparalleled miseries and misfortunes which they, and their neighbours, the growers of wool, in that county, and the rest of their unhappy fellow-subjects, labour under, by the general decay of trade, manufactures, and publick credit j which sad effects, 3D 771] . PARL. HISTORY, 7 George I they hove just reason to believe, are occasioned by the insatiable avarice and'ambition of the late directors, and other officers of the South Sea Company, their advisers, aiders, and confederates; who to gain immense estates and grandeur to themselves, and families, have, in such prodigious and unexampled manner, broke the great trust and confidence reposed in them, as to bring their native country into imminent danger of ruin and destruction: and praying, That such measures may be taken, that trade may flourish, and public credit be restored, as well as justice done to an injured people. County, of Warwick. Setting forth, That the petitioners crave leave to represent the unparalleled grievances of a plundered people: who, by the avarice and rapine of a set of parricides, are reduced, from the most flourishing condition, and that in the space of one year only, to as deplorable a state of calamity and distress as they ever yet suffered by any civil tumult, or foreign war: at is to the late treacherous managers of the South Sea Company, their abettors and confe-• derates, that they owe the lpss of public credit, the present deadness of trade, and the utter ruin of many' families; Who, from great effluence and esteem, are sunk .at once into poverty and reproach; such a scene of misery must very sensibly affect evgry true lover of his country, to cry aloud for vengeance: and praying relief. Liberty of St. Albans. Setting forth, That the great decay of trade and credit, and the unspeakable desolation of their country by the late South Sea directors, their agents and abettors, will not suffer them to be silent, while they see the detestable authors of their misery remain unpunished, and tKousandkof honest families daily overwhelmed in ruin: and praying relief. County of York. Setting forth, That the petitioners think Lemsclves obliged to return thanks to the House, for their inquiry into the evil practices, and perfidious management of the late South Sea directors and their associates; and for the tender regard they bave shewed to their present misfortunes occasioned thereby, which are no less than the decay of trade, the loss of public credit, the rum of innumerable families, and the dishonour of the British nation:and praying relief. Borough of Leeds. Setting forth, That the petitioners crave leave to represent to the House the deplorable condition of that town, from the miserable decay of trade, and of private as well as public credit; the fatal effects whereof they most sensibly feel, and deeply lament: that the late directors of the South Sea Company, and their accomplices, have by their mysterious 1721. — Petitions for Justice on the [772 * contri ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e life of all commerce; which has been drained from them by the pernicious arts and management of the late directors of the South Sea Company, and their accomplices i and praying, That the authors may be brought to condign punishment. City of Durham. Setting forth. That the-Petitioners are sensibly affected with the miserable condition this nation is reduced to, in the decay of trade, and loss of public credit; occasioned by the unheard 773] PARL. HISTORY, 7 Georob I. 1721 Present Calamities. [774 of avarice, and wicked practices, of the late Directors of the South Sea Company, their accomplices and abettors: humbly implore the House to Continue to lay open this scene of iniquity. And praying, that the authors xnuy be brought to condign punishment. City of Chester. Setting forth, That the' Petitioners, under a deep sense of the deplorable state and condition the nation in general is brought into, occasioned by the vile practices and contrivances of the late Directors of the South Sea Company, their aiders, abetters, and confederates, cannot but with great regret and concern lament the many mischiefs and calamities they of that ancient city now labour under, chiefly owing to the great decay of trade, and loss of public credit; and praying, That the authors may be brought to condign punishment. County of Pembroke. Setting forth, That the public credit of the nation hath been destroyed by the infamous practices of the late Directors of the South Sea Company, and their accomplices:and praying that those detestable parricides be brought to condign punishment. Borough of Tamworth. Setting forth. That their decay of trade, and the want of vent for their commodities, is occasioned by the destructiveness and scandalous, corrupt, management, of the South Sea scheme, to the ruin of public as well as priv/te credit, the impoverishment of a great number of persons: and praying, That proper measures may be taken for the encouragement of trade, (he redress of all their grievances, and for the preventing the like corruption for the future. County of Leicester. Setting forth, That they can never enough magnify the justice of parliament, in detecting the villainy of a set of men «who have ruined the credit of their country, under the specious name of paying the public debts: so neither can thdy sufficiently abhor the impudence of some, who, under the pretence of advancing public credit, would prevent the payment of those debts:and praying, That public justice may be applied to public roguery, and make them, and them alone, restore, who have had their share in the plunder. City of Litchfield. - Setting forth, That the decay of trade, and the complaints of the poor manufacturers, proceeds from the vile and scandalous management of the Directors of the South Sea scheme, their aiders, abettors, and accomplices whose deceit, avarice, corruption, and imposition, of all kinds, have been such as no nation ever suffered, or time produced:and praying, That the same true spirit, which attended the parliament at the beginning of this great and good work, may still continue with them, to the completing of it. Borough of Aylesbury. Setting forth, The misery that they in common with the rest of their fellow subjects, at present groan under, from the total decay of trade and credit of these kingdoms; and chat nothing can conduce more effectually to the retrieving the unhappy condition of these nations, than a vigorous pursuit of justice against those who have been the authors and contrivers of our present misfortunes:and praying. That impartial justice will be done, without distinction of persons. City of Oxford. Setting forth, That they are deeply concerned at the loss of public credit, the decay of trade, and the miseries that have been brought upon us by the wicked and pernicious practices of the late directors of the South Sea, and the more corrupt and evil counsels of their aiders and abettors:and praying that the betrayers of their country, how great or how many soever, may be brought to speedy and public justice. Borough of Reading. Setting forth, That to see our national credit, which bath always been esteemed sacred and inviolable, and stood the stock of all times, bad in so little regard; and the creditors thereof plundered, instead of being justly paid; to find a glorious prospect and opportunity of lessening our public debts, which have been a long and heavy weight on the true national interest, frustrated and disappointed by the selfish views of ambitious men; are truths too clear not to be seen, and of too much consequence*not to be complained of; these, and all our present grievances, are justly to be attributed to the treacherous and destructive execution' of the South-Sea scheme: and praying, That no endeavours may be wanting to bring all offenders, arid betrayers of their country, to due punishment. Town of Cambridge. Setting forth, That being deeply sensible of the deplorable condition this nation at present is in, by the villainous management of the' late South-Sea directors, their aiders and abettors:which has almost intirfely destroyed the trade, and, consequently, the public credit, of this kingdom: and praying, That all endeavours will be used to bring the guilty to condign punishment. City 6f Lincoln. Setting forth. That the general calamity of this nation, by the want of trade, loss of public credit, and the, scarcity of money, attended with the lamentable complaint of a vast number of suffering persons, occasioned by the fraudulent pfactices of the late directors and managers of the South-Sea Company, obliges us to set forth that notorious Scheme of TO] PARL. HISTORY, 7 George I Roguery, and deceit of a body of men joined together, in such a pernicious' design: And praying, That effectual care will be taken in the discovering and punishing all the offenders, aiders, and abettors, in this grand and wicked undertaking. 1 Borough of Chipping Wycombe. Setting forth, That the inexpressible calamities they now lie under, by the decay of trade (and credit of this once flourishing kingdom, now reduced to the utmost decree of misery, by the vile end scandalous practices of the late South-Sea Directors, their aiders and abettors; And praying, That a vigorous inquiry may be made, to bring to justice, and deserved punishment, the authors and contrivers of these unparalleled grievances. Borough of Abingdon. Setting forth, Ibat they are infinitely concerned at the deplorable and melancholy condition to which this nation is reduced by the general decay of trade, manufactures, ana public Credit; occasioned by the fatal practices of the late directors of the South-Sea Company, and their perfidious accomplices: and praying, That proper measures may be taken, that trade may flourish, public credit be restored, and justice done to an injured people. Town and Port of Hastings, Setting forth, That the Fishery, which, for ages past, hath been the chiefest support of this and many other maritime towns, is now reduced to a very low ebb, through the power vested in die late directors of the South-Sea Company, their advisers, aiders, and abettors:and praying, That such measures may be taken to bring them to condign punishment. Borough of Haslemere. Setting forth, That the villainous practices of the late directors of the South-Sea Company, and their abettors, have occasioned a great decay of trade, and scarcity of money; and without a brisker circulation of which, the worst of consequences must inevitably ensue: and praying, That those Monsters of Pride and Covetousness may be detected, nod punished. Borough of Southwark. Setting forth. That they cannot but be sensible of the misery brought on this nation, by the evil intentions, and worse practices, of the late Directors of the South Sea Company, their accomplices, aiders, and ebettors; by which many thousands have been reduced to misery and want: and praying, That the Robbers of their Country, of what degree or quality soever, be punished; and that trade may be restored, and credit revived. City of Hereford. Setting forth, That the general -decay of trade, and the dismal calamities brought upon the aattea, by a set of wicked and avaricious 9 17 2\.-^Petitions for Justice (m thi [77U men, who, to accumulate wealth to themselves, have utterly ruined many thousands of their countrymen: and praying, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ed chiefly by the wicked practices *# 777] PARL. HISTORY, 7 George 1. 1721 . — ef Present Calamities. [779 some covetous persons, who have diverted great1 part of the wealth of the nation out of its pro-: per channel, and taken it to themselves:and praying, That those who have been accessary to the general calamity be brought to exemplary punishment; and that some speedy method may be provided for the reviving of trade. Borough of Stamford. Setting forth, That they declare their utmost detestation of the crimes of the late Directors of the South Sea'Company, their agents and accomplices, who have been the ruin of both public and private credit, discouraged industry, and rendered them in such a condition as otherwise would not have been known to the trading people:and praying, That such measures may be found as may be judged most proper to discourage, and, ia due time, bring all the criminals to just punishment. Borough of Sudbury. Setting forth, That the corrupt and enormous practices of the late South Sea Directors, their confederates and assistants, and the mischievous consequences of their detestable schemes, have very much contributed to the present decay of trade, and public, in general; the fatal effects of which have been no where more sensibly felt, than by those whose dependence chiefly consists in thewoollen manufact ures for exportation: and praying, That care may be taken to revive the languishing trade, and re-establish public ciedit, and in bringing to exemplary punishment all the authors of these calamities., Borough of Westbury. Setting forth, That bearing so great a shar-of that extensive calamity this poor and dise tressed nation groans under, by the boundless avarice, and corrupt practices, of the late Directors of the South-Sea, their aiders, abettors, and confederates, who have occassioned the great decay of trade in the woollen manufacture: and praying, that relief may be given therein by giving encouragement to trade, redressing their grievances, and restoring of public credit, and doing justice to an injured nation. Town dnd Borough of Ppntefract. Setting forth, Thatithe loss of trade, occasioned by the dark schemes, and vile practices, of a set of men who have engrossed a great part of the treasure of the nation into their hands, to the utter -ruin of a great many families:and praying, That proper measures may be taken to revive trade, and give restitution to the oppressed. Bofough of Colchester. Setting forth, That out of a deep sense of the miseries of many unhappy families, deluded and undone, by the unparalleled fraud and corruption of the late Directorsof the Sonth-Sea Company and their secret accomplices, and the fatal wouai that has been given to. public credit, is their concern, as well as indignation, against tho infamous betrayers of their country: and praying, That such further measures may be taken to relieve trade, restore credit, and punish the rile authors of these mischiefs, as shall be judged necessary. City and County of Coventry. Setting forth, that by the schemes of the late traiterous Directors of the South-Sea, and their, accomplices, who have been the occasion of an impoverished people, the lessening of credit, and sioking of trade, that many artificers in their woollen manufac± tures cannot be employed:and praying, that proper measures may be taken to revive trade* and restore credit and punishing the offenders thereof. Town of Barnstable. Setting forth, That being sensible of the con-plication of miseries brought upon the whole nation by]the unparalleled attempts, and insatiable avarice, of the late South-Sea Directors, aod their abominable accomplices: and *the great damage done to trade; and the sinking of public and private credit: and praying, That trade may be revived, public credit restored, and the contrivers thereof punished. Borough of Richmond. Setting forth, that they being sensibly affected with the calamities themselves and fellow-subjects labour under, b ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by Mr. Knight’s direction, in the treasury, or some other room in the South Sea house: Says, There might be something and some other names, in those three leaves, which are not in the paper produced by him at his examination:That he knows of no lord, nor commoner, named in those three leaves, save what are in the said paper produced; which paper, he says, be took from his journal, from which the entries were posted into the said three leaves of the said ledger; but cannot say, that the same is an exact copy: produced several other books, several of the leaves of which are torn out, which concern Mr. Knight: That this examinant never kept a cash-book in his life: That all stock, bought and sold, is transferred or posted from his journal, produced at his examination, into his said ledgers: but the journal does not contain all the matters concerning money, that are entered in his ledgers: That page 80 and 81 are torn out. of one of his ledgers ? That page 9, 10, 'and 11, are torn out of another of his ledgers: That page 1, 2, 9, 4. 8, and 9, are torn out of another ledger, marked 3.: as also page 7, defaced; all which ages, he remembers, contained accounts of liv Knight; and are referred to in the several alphabets of those ledgers: That all these ledgers b< gin in January 1719. Your Committee have other matters under their consideration, upon which $iey are proceeding; and will, in a short time, lay die tame before the House. The said Report was ordered to be taken into consideration upon this day t'evennighr. Delate in the Common* on the State of the Public Credit^] April 25. Mr. Shippen stood up, and took notice, That the House had sate a long while, and nothing had yet been done towards the restoring of Public Credit: that, indeed, a. member of great parts and abilities had, at first, proposed a Scheme for that purpose; but that, instead of proving an effectual remedy, it appeared at last to be a mere palliar five, which had rather inflamed than alleviated the distemper: that by this time, a whole injured nation called aloud for vengeance; and if they neglected to bear the voice of the people, it would look as if they had a mind to provoke them to do themselves justice. That it was. ever his opinion, that the only effectual means to restore Credit, was to call those to a strict Account, who had ruined it; and, in particular, all such as had applied any part of the public money, iotrusted in their hands, in stock jobbing, and had raised vast fortunes by robbing the Public. And so be moved, " That it be an instruction to the Committee of Secrecy, that they inquire what public money had been employed by any treasurer, cashier, collector, receiver, or other officer concerned in the receipt or payment of the public money, or of any other part of his majesty’s revenue, or by any^ in trust for them, or by their order, in buying stock .or subscriptions m the Sooth Sea, or any other company, or in annuities, or other parliamentary securities, or otherwise making use of, or employing the same, to tbpir private advantage, since the 1st of December, 1719." Sir William Wyndham seconded this motion; adding withal, " That there was reason to apprehend, that the public money bad not been administered with due (economy, particularly is relation to some foreign Troops* that were in the pay of England and Holland, daring the last war, to whom great sums had of late bees allowed, on account of pretended arrears, after they had separated from the English general: and therefore he moved, That the late Commissioners appointed to examine, »taiex and de* termine the Debts due to the Army, and ts examine and state the demands of several foreign princes and States, for subsidies, during the late war, be ordered to lay before the House Copies of the several warrants and sign-manuals, by virtue of which they issued any certificates." Hereupon, Mr. R. Walpole said, That he wondered to hear of such a motion, when a little after tho king’s coming to the crown ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distempers' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ent, and meaning of that act. To this Mr. Lechmere replied. That he was not against the motion that sir William Wyndham had made, neither on the other hand, was be. about to justify it: but he would freely tell the gentleman (meaning Mr. R. Walpole) who opposed it. That while the nation was under the pressure of heavy debts, he most expect that many such motions would be made, in order to find out methods to ease the public burden. That as that gentleman was now in a higher post than formerly, so a great deal more was expected from him; the rather because the Scheme which be had proposed atthe beginning of this session, for the raising the stocks, and restoring public credit, bad not had the desired effect. Mr. R. Walpole replied. That it was known to every body, that he ever was against tho South Sea scheme, and had done all that i» hie power lay, to hinder its taking place:but now the mischief was done, and things were brought to such extremities, he thought it his duty, and therefore was willing to try the best method he could think of, to extricate the nation out the difficulties into which they were plunged t that he did not pretend to work miracles; but only to use his utmost endeavours towards retrieving the late misfortunes: That with thin honest intention, he had promoted & scheme which bad been laid before him, and appeared tbg most plausible of any then proposed, for restoring public credit: That it could not be denied, that'while that scheme was pursued, it had done some good, and kept up the price of stocks; and that they fell since it . had been? 793] PARL. HIST. 7 George 1.17 2t.~Resohitum3 respecting Mr. Craggs1 estate. [794 laid aside. That, however, he never intended to raise stocks above the intrinsic value, for that would bring us again into the same unhappy circumstances which the raising of them ban before occasioned. He afterwards lamented the ill disposition of some persons, who, instead of concurring with others in remedying the present distempers, used all possible means to irritate and exasperate the minds of the people: and concluded with amotion " That a day be appointed to consider of the State of the Public Credit of the Kingdom." This motion was unanimously agreed to, and that day seven-sight appointed for that purpose. The Comment take into Consideration that Pari of the Reports of the Committee of Secrecy which relates to Mr., sen:] April 88. The Commons proceeded to take into consideration those parts of the Reports of the Committee of Secrecy, as related to James Craggs, esq. deceased, late Post-Master-General, which having been read, Mr. Broderick moved, That the said Mr. Craggs having taken 40,000l. South Sea stock, without paying for it, or giving sufficient security for the payment of the same, his estate might be made liable to the same forfeitures with those of the late Directors. Hereupon Mr. Grey Neville desired, That the gentlemen concerned in this affair, two of whom were members of the House, might first be heard by their counsel, and produce what witnesses they had, before the House came to any resolution in this matter. Mr. Robert Walpole seconded him, and in particular, said, He hoped the House would not break their known rules, which were, not to condemn any one without first hearing them; and sure they would not deny this piece of fustice to their own members. Mr. Horatio Walpole spoke to the same purpose; and then Mr. Trefutis, member for Penryn, stood up, and said, That neither he nor Mr. Newsham were at all prepared, not expecting that this affair would have come on this day, because there was another part in the Report before it, and therefore he desired the House would give them time to get their witnesses: He added, He never had been used to speak in the House, or hut very rarely, and his brother-in law, Mr. Newsham, member for Lestwithiel, not at all, which he hoped the House would take into consideration, and allow them counsel to speak for them:That by Mr. Craggs’s ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- said Robert Knight, and some of the late Directors of the South Sea Company, in carrying on their corrupt and scandalous practices, and did, by his wicked influence, and for his own exorbitant gain, promote and encourage the pernicious execution of the late South Sea scheme. 5. " That all the Estate, real and personal, of which the said James Craggs was seized or possessed from and after the 1st day of Dec. 1719, (over and above what he stood seized or possessed of on the said 1st day of December) be applied for and towards the relief of the unhappy sufferers, in the Sooth Sea Company, and for deterrin^all persons from committing the like wicked practices for time to come, " 7931 PARL. HISTORY, 7 Gtojtei I. 1721. — Mn Vernon expelled the Hoax* [795 * Debate in the Commons on the State of the Public Credit.] May 9. The Commons, in a Committee of the whole House, took into consideration the Public Credit of this kingdom, and after reading the Proceedings and Resolutions of the general court of the South Sea Company, held the 23rd of December, 1720, as also the Resolutions of the general court of the said Company, held the 9th and 18th days of March, 1790, relating to the four money-subscriptions, Mr. Sloper opened the debate, and took notice, that one of the principal causes of the ruin of Public Credit, was the fraudulent dealing of the South Sea directors, with the proprietors of the redeemables, and other public debts, and with the money-subscribers. He was seconded by the Master of the Rolls, and backed by Mr. Hutcheson and the Chancellor of the Duchy, who all concluded, that some relief ought to be given to the said subscribers. Mr. Milner was of the same opinion, and thereupon moved, that the seven millions due from the South Sea Company to the government be remitted. This was strenuously opposed by Mr. Smithy who shewed how absurd it was, to pretend to retrieve Public Credit, by remitting, that is by taking from the public, so great a sum, to give it to private persons: be owned that they who had suffered by the fraud and mismanagement of the late South Sea directors, were worthy objects of compassion; but that they ought to be relieved out of the estates of those who bad occasioned their losses, and not out of the public money. This was answered by Mr. Horatio Walpole, Who was for Mr. Milner’s motion; as were also the lord Tyrconnel, Mr. Pulteney, Mr. Robert Walpoje; col. Bladen, and some others, and though they were opposed by Mr. Shippen, aerjeant Pengtlly, and a few more, yet the question being put, .upon Mr. Milner’s motion, it was carried in the affirmative by 221 voices against 194. * Papers relating to Mr. Knight presented.] May 6. Mr. Methuen, by the king’s command, laid before the House copies of several Letters and Papers relating to Mr. Knight, which: were read; particularly, a Letter from Mr. Leathes, the British resident at Brussels, Containing an account of the excuses and pre- * " The most remarkable passage in this day’s debate, was Mr. Shippen’s naming a Great Lady, who hail a considerable quantity of South Sea stock given her; and afterwards telling a story of Alice Pearce, a celebrated mistress of king Henry III. who having made a breach between the king and the Black Prince, was twice removed from court, by the interposition and solicitation of the then Speaker of the House of Common*^ This story being looked upon as implying an odious parallel, col. Bladen animadverted- upon it with some warmth, ’7 Political State * fences made use of to elude his instances for the delivering up of the said Mr. Knigbfc Those excuses were thought so frivolous, that m motion was made for prohibiting the importation of aU commodities of the growth and maw nufacture of the Austrian Netherlands, particularly lace and lawn, till such time as Miv Knight had been delivered up and seat over t but it was thought more proper, that a Committee be appointed to consider of the State of the Trade between this kingdom and the Austrian ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e presented to his majesty, praying, That the several Papers relating to the affair of Mr. Aislabie, may belaid before the House. July 18. The Lords went into a Committee upon the Directors Bill, and great debates arose in relation to Mr. Aislabie, how, and in what manner he and his witnesses should be, examined ? The Lord Harcourtmoved, That according to the established rules of justice and equity, every one of them might be examined distinctly to every article:but this was warmly opposed by Lord Townshend, who alledged, That such a method would take up so much time, that it might endanger the loss of the bill, which was of the greatest importance, not only to the kingdom, but to the king himself; for if the bill should miscarry, no than could tell what might be the consequence. This was supported by The Earl of Sunderland, who likewise urged the necessity of passing this bill, to quiet the minds of the people. Then Mr. Aislabie was called in, and, at his desire, Mr. Weddal, Mr. Surman, sir Lambert Blackwell, sir John Blunt, sir Theodore Janssen, Mr. Faulconbridge, Mr. Joye, and Mr. Hawes were severally called in, examined, and confronted with him. Sir John Fellows declared he knew nothing of the questions that were put to him by Mr. Aislabie; and sir John Blunt being asked who was the contriver of the South-Sea Scheme f Answered, - it was none of hit contriving, but the House of Comtnous: bqt sir Theodore Janssen being examined about the same matter, said, < That he always took 663] . PARL. HISTORY, 7 George I. 1721. — Mr. Aislabie*s Defence [804 »ir John Blunt to be the contriver, as certainly he was the chief manager of the South-Sea Scheme; and that, for his own part, he never was let into the secret of that affair/ Mr. . Hawes being examined as to the burning of the Books of Accounts, ingeniously owned the fact; but said they were only books of private accounts between Mr. Aislabie and himself; ; and which no wise concerned the public, or any other private person, besides them two: Upon which, Mr. Aislabie said, He thought there was no Hurt in burning accounts that were made up and cancelled, and in which no body had any concern, but Mr. Hawes and himself. These Examinations being over, Lord Onsloa/ stood up and asked, Whether, in the opinion of their lordships, any mischief had happened to the public? And being an- swered by another lord, Yes, without doubt, *a great deal:*' but, added lord Onslow; it seems nobody has done it; sir John Blunt is innocent, sir John Fellows knows nothing of the matter, none of the Directors were let into the secret, Mr. Aislabie has done no hurt: therefore, my lords, I move to adjourn; which was done accordingly. July 19. The Lords went again into a committee upon that part of the Directors Bill relating to Mr. Aislabie; and The Lord Trevor said, " That from any evidence that had yet appeared before them, he Could not see that there was sufficient ground to insert Mr. Aislabie’s name in the Bill, and to involve him in the same punishment jvith the Directors; and therefore, before they proceeded farther, he thought it necessary to send to the Secret Committee, to lay before them their whole evidence/ This motion was seconded by lord Harcourt; but the same, if carried, being like to embroil both Houses in dangerous disputes, the lord Falmouth moved for adjourning during pleasure, which was agreed to. After a short adjournment, their lordships agreed to call in and examine Mr. Surman and Mr. Weymonsold, the former of whom deposed, and the other confirmed, that Mr. Aislabie had South-Sea Stock transferred to him several times, to the value of above 30,000l. for which .they knew dot that he ever paid any thing; Then would have indulged me so far, to have heard me by my counsel in the usual manner, in a case where ray property, my liberty, and, for ought I know, my life, may be concerned. " I must own, my lords, I come very ill prepared to make my Defence against such parts of this long and ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- se accounts, and the manner of cancelling them. He has told your lordships, ‘ That there: was ‘ nothing criminal contained in those accounts; That there was nothing in them relating to me as a chancellor of the exchequer, nor to him as a director of the South Sea company, or as a receiver of the customs; that there was nothing in them that could be construed a breach of trust; nothing that could be called a combination with the South Sea directors^ or had any relation to them; nothing that could be called corruption, or any thinglike it/ Je says, 1 He bought some stock for me in December 1719, but that it was sold again in three or four days after, for very small profit. And lastly, he says, this stock was bought and paid for with my own money, and not with the public money, or the Company’s money/ As to the manner of cancelling them, he says, It was done in October last, before the king’s return, and long before the-parliament met; that I had long since passed my public accounts, viz. in April 1720, that those accounts were passed at my pressing - instances in half the time that any of my predecessors had passed theirs; that I had afterwards daily so- licited him to have those private accounts T*] PARL. HISTORY, 7 George t 1731. — AUMt Dtftnc* £671 * aade op and delivered, but that his affairs would not permit him to do it till October * last; That I had pressed him to deliver up these accounts, not only long before the stock * fell, but before it rose; that these accounts * were cancelled, after I had given him a dis-‘ charge, by mutual consent; and that he be- * lieves it was not done with a design to cohceal * them from this enquiry/ . " My lords, this is the Evidence of Mr. Hawes; and I do not wonder that your lord-phips were under some surprize, that a matter represented in so different a light, and with which my enemies have made so much noise and clamour, should, at last, come out as a fair and indifferent action, in which neither the public nor any private person was concerned, and to have been done without a design of concealing or covering any fraud whatsoever. * e There is something, my lords, I must ob> serve to you upon this occasion, that makes me wonder how this transaction came to be so much insisted on, unless it was to iuflaipe more than to convince; and that is, my lords, (as I humbly conceive) that in case these books had beep in being, and there had been any thing criminal in them, or that might any way affect me to my prejudice, your lordships would not, as you are a court of justice, oblige me to produce them against myself; this is a fundamental maxim in law, and has never been broke through in the most violent and arbitrary times. And the House of Lords, in their enquiries in 1640, were 90 tender of this great principle of law and justice, that they made it a special instruction to their Committee, that the judges they had ordered to be examined, should not be examined upon any thing to accuse themselves. And the Commons, during all the enormities of those times, never broke through this rule, till they came to deckle all things by the sword:And therefore, my lords, if these accounts could not judicially be demanded of me, in case they were in being, and contained any thing criminal in them; there can certainly be no dime in any having disposed of them as I •thought fit, especially if it be considered, that they were my Own private bosks, no ways relating to me as a public accomptant, committing nothing in them criminal, or »ffjpc»i»g the interest of any other person. " I know, my lords, very well, that in the case of a deed destroyed, if a witness proves that there was iu that deed any clause to the advantage of a third person, or to the prejudice of him that destroyed it, such clause shall be construed in the strongest manner against the perms that destroyed the deed. But this, my lords, is not my cnee: here is no evidence produced to prove any thing criminal in these accounts, but on the contrary; so t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- every villain, of this very broker here, whose evidence is his merit ? Am I not obliged to live in the dread, and at the ihercy of every informer like him ? Others may think, and the directors perhaps may think life under these circumstances to be tolerable; but to me, my lords, there can be no comfort in it, but what my own innocence secures to me. " There are some clauses in the bill that oblige the to give in inventories of my real and personal estate from such times, and in such a manner, as is impossible to be complied with; having never kept my accounts in such a method, as those that are bred up to trade and figures are used to do; and I believe very few gentlemen in the kingdom would, in their own cases, think this practicable. But if my accounts had been regularly kept, as I have no clerks or book-keepers to swear to them, so I do not know of what use' it could be to produce them to these trustees, in case they are minded to dispute them; for though they are entitled only to the incrementum of my estate since the first of October 1716, yet as they are to be vested with the whole of my personal, and great part of my real estate; and as I am to deliver tip all my writings, papers, and accounts to them, it is impossible to make out any claim before them in any manner whatsoever. And pray, my lords, observe the difficulties or absurdities of this case: Here is a court erected of nine persons, with absolute and unlimited powers; .some of these gentlemen, perhaps, have been accusers, but all of them are to be judges and parties; my estate and my title is to be put into their bands, and then I am td claim what can never be made out, .but by the very writings in their possession. Was ever such a jurisdiction established upon earth before, where laws were in use ? No, my lords, the original cause of all laws, and of civil government was to prevent men’s judging for themselves, and to oblige them to submit all disputable matters^to indifferent parties; This is in a particular manner the basis of all our laws, and it is the only pillar by which justice and equity oau be supported. d*But, my lords, there is another circum-ataace, which, in the' situation of iny affairs, makes any claim impracticable; that is, my lords, the oaas probandi lies, in a great measure, upon me, which, in regard to my personal estate, is impossible; unless my judges are willing to be guided by the circumstances of my affairs, and my own testimony. [.1721. — Mr. Aislabic’s Dtftnce. [876 " For instance, my lords, it appears to your lordships that there was an account between Mr. Hawes and me for seven years past, wherein most of my effects were contained, and he says about 30,000l. South Sea stock was bought before the scheme took place, with my own money:It appears by the paper delivered at the Conference, that I bought by Mr. Knight, two months before the South Sea proposals took place, 27,000l. South Sea stock, ana had several other effects in his hands; and Mr. Surman has proved that Mr. Knight told him, that he owed me a great sum of money long before this, having kept my cash for two or three years before, noue of which can be supposed to be the increase of my es-> tate since October 1718. How is it possible niy lords, I can prove one word of it r As to Mr. Knight, it is not expected I should produce him; and as for Mr. Hawes, be says, those accounts are cancelled, and he has made no other entry’of them. How is it possible, then, to prove anything, especially to the satisfaction of my judges, who are also parties ? For it must be to their satisfaction, and not otherwise, the bill says, that my proofs must be made. If they are not pleased to be satisfied, then, indeed, I may appeal to another coart erected for this purpose, viz. to the judges" in Westminster Hall, who will expect legal evidence to maintain an appeal, ijvhich, in my case, my lords, I have shewn, is not to be done. " I cannot but take notice of one punishment more that seems to be oddly suited t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distemper']; Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distemper'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- n they had done; and if they did advise with any in the administration about these last proposals, it was either at my late lord Stanhope's, or at Mr. Secretary Craggs’s; for they never came to my house afterwards, till the bill was drawn. And, my lords, to shew you my dislike of this fatal transaction, (since all the arguments against me are drawn from interest) I must acquaint you, that the night before these proposals were offered the House of Commons, 1 was told at my lord Stanhope's, that some of the South Sea Company had been there, and that they were resolved to out bid the Bank at any rate. To this, my lords, I then declared my dislike, and gave orders that night to sell out all my South Sea stock, (except 2,000l.) which was actually done the next morning, and which makes so great a figure in. Weymondsold’s account* Thus, my lords, if we were to judge from interest, I could not be thought partial to the South Sea Company’s proposals, when I bad so little stock with them, and so much in the Bank; and, my lords, there is nothing more notorious, nor which can be proved by more witnesses, than that I did not go out to the Directors that morning, to advise them to out-bid the Bank, (as sir John Blunt would insinuate, though he has been contradicted in it by Mr. Joye and others) but that I sat still in ray place in the House of Commons, until the proposals were received, expressing my dislike of them to ail those about me, and publicly declaring in the House, that I thought both the corporations had out-bid themselves. ; " Thus was this scheme accepted, and as sir John Blunt says, become the act of the Rouse of Commons; and, as it was their act, it was my duty, by the nature of my office, to see the bill, drawn and brought in accordingly. * My lords, there was something very extraordinary in the consequence of this affair, that the more the South Sea Company were to pay to the public, the higher did their stock rise upon it: Whether this proceeded only from the distemper of the times, that afterwards broke out into such a flame, and which was kindled by the opposition of the Bank, and the value they set upon the scheme, by bidding so high for it; or from what other cause I cannot tell; but from that time it became difficult to govern it; and let those gentlemen that opened the flood -gates wonder at the deluge that ensued as inuch as they please, it was not in one man’s power, or in the power of the whole administration, to stop it, considering how the world was born away by the torrent, and particularly the members of the House of Commons: ana I will be bold to say, my lords, and the gentlemen of the Bank, I believe, will own, that if they had carried the scheme upon their last proposals, they could not have executed it with success; ' and I will shew your lordships from what they have done since, that they would have acted in the same manner as the South Sea Company hath done, and I am sure with more fatal consequences to the public. " Thus, my lords, was this Bill passed, and whatever conditions, or restraints might have been put upon the South Sea Company, if the ' first proposals had been accepted, they became now impracticable; nor would the South Sea. Company submit to be controuled in an undertaking they were to pay so dear for. And notwithstanding it has been said that the scheme could have been executed at 150; yet Mr. Gibbon has told you, and so will all the other Directors, that they would not have undertaken to have given so much, as five millions, if they had been restrained from selling their stock higher than at that price. And therefore, as there was no power reserved to the treasury to controul the Directors in the execution of the scheme; and as there were such vast advantages to accrue from it to the public, there was nothing remained for the treasury to do, but to give them all the assistance they could, and particularly, what the law had provided for them. " For this reason, my lords, the exchequer notes were issued to them, though at that time their stock was high, and perhaps they might not want them very much, since it was easy at that time for them to raise what sum they pleased by subscriptions. " But as they were intitled^to those notes, and as they were demanded of the treasury according to law, the commissioners of the-treasury could not be so indiscreet, as to refuse them, without taking upon themselves the blame of any miscarriage; and it is very plaiu, that the wisest of the directors, who saw their stock carried to that monstrous height, where it never could be supported, were apprehensive of the consequences of it, and were looking out for every pretence to lay the blame upon the administration. " But though I was always upon mypiard in this point, yet I do declare, I never was Wanting to serve and assist them to the utmost of my power. And though perhaps, tny lords, it was in the power of the treasury, if they would have taken upon them what did not belong to them, to have rua down the stock; yet considering the parliament was then sitting, the greatest part whereof were deeply engaged in it; it had been a bold undertaking for this treasury to have attempted to have brought, down the stock, and must have drawn upon themselves the rage of all the sufferers, and sure destruction. " This unhappy affair, my lords, began at a time when the passion and avaricious desires of mankind are grown up to a madness and a distemper, and one cannot without pity look back upon the rage and folly of the year. The unaccountable success of this undertaking gave birth to" many base and ruinous-projects; and it must ever be a public reproach, that encouragement was given, to those two bubbles that. 6S7] PARL. HISTORY, 7 George 1.1721 AitlabWs Defence. [888 were established, to raise a supply for the support of the civil list; it is very well known that those, two projects did not proceed from me. Whatever opinion the world may have of the South Sea scheme, I will presume to Say, these two projects were founded in greater iniquity, and contributed more to the public calamity than any thing else. " After this, my lords, I may venture to say the South Sea scheme was become ungovernable; and some of the wisest of the Directors were so sensible of it, that to do them justice I .must declare, they fame to the treasury, and offered to advance the money for the Civil last upon sure and easy terms, rather than that those bubbles should take place. " But though the treasury were provided with ways and means for a supply to the Civil last, without the help of either; yet those projects, and others, had taken such deep root in the House of Commons, and elsewhere, as made it impossible to oppose them:and they had that consequence which the Directors of the South Sea Company foretold, and which every body might foresee, viz. to encrease the flame, by adding this unnecessary fuel to it. As the South Sea Scheme might give birth to the bubbles, so the bubbles contributed to raise the South Sea to that height which brought us into this condition. u My Ibrds, I must not omit in this place to take notice, that this spirit of bubbling* had prevailed so universally, that, to shew you what would have been the case if the Bank had obtained the scheme, the very Bank became a bubble; and this, my lords, not by chance or necessity, or from any engagement to raise money for the public service, but from the same spirit tha ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- even some of my accusers, that purchased the redeemables, •who thought, me extremely silly for advising them against endeavouring to make their fortunes by this project. And it is likewise very remarkable, ray lords, that a letter was produced to the House of Commons, under the hands of the chief directors of the Bank, whereby -they made the most early application, and in the most humble and abject terms to their most determined enemy, sir John Blunt, to be admitted to this subscription. It was no wou-der then that the wisest and most cautious of their admirers went along with them, and much less that the crowd should be led into this fatal error by their example. "I do not say this, my lords, to lay any blame' or imputation upon the Bank, but to shew your lordships, that this grave and cautious body of men were touched with the infatuation as well as others; and that some of their greatest friends, and the loudest complainants, were, in spite of all advice, the greatest pushers in this chimerical project. " I must own, my lords, I was pretty much surprized to see tins work going on; but as the act of parliament had entirely divested the treasury of all power and controul over the South Sea Directors, in respect to the redeemable debts, we could be only spectators of this melancholy scene. " Of this the Company was not ignorant, and therefore did not think fit to consult me, or any of my brethren, abont it, but hurried it on to execution at once. They knew their power too well, and were too much elated with their prosperity, to think of consulting with the treasury upon that occasion; and to shew your lordships, how vain it had been for the treasury to have interposed, and of what little weight the chancellor of the exchequer was at that time with these gentlemen, before the treasury w*\s adjourned, I waited upon some of the directors at the South Sea honse, to know if they had any commands for the treasury. I, indeed, took the liberty to recommend to them, in a particular manner, the expediting the duplicates of the subscriptions of the redeemable and irredeemable debts, that the proprietors might have their stock in their own hands as soon as possible; but I found them too busy in making their loans, and squandering away the Company’s money, to mind such trifles; and so I was dismissed by sir John Blunt, with 860] PARL. HISTORY, 7 Geoboe I leave to go into the country. Such was the pride of this mighty projector at that time, to whom so many have bowed and sued for favours. " We have lost the memory of every thing, if in so short a time it can be forgot how the eyes of the world were turned from the treasury, and the chief ministers of state, to this great oracle, whose word (as sir Theodore Janssen says) was a law to the Company. To him we owe every motion, and every desperate step that was taken in the execution of this scheme: and therefore I cannot help saying, that the countenance which has been shewn him in another place, is due to a merit that has not yet been made known to. the public. " But this glory, my lords, did not-last long, and I was scarce got down into the country, when I was called back by the cries of those concerned in this unhappy Company. I found the Lords and others in the administration met, and using their endeavours to succour and sap-port the stock. The Bank by their mediation was called in to the assistance of the South-Sea Company, and an agreement was made between the two Companies, to which I was rather a witness than a party. " This gave some life to their stock, and stopped the mouths of the redeemables, who were grown very clamorous. I must own the just concern I had at that time, and shall always retain for this great body of the public creditors; and I was pleased to see them so well satisfied with the bargain the Bank had tnade for them, and for themselves, upon whom they pinned their faith so absolutely. And for my part, I who was not in the secret could not but think it a real, and sincere b ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- others: and, as all the new proprietors, as well those concerned in the public funds, as the other adventurers, were equally imposed upon by the artifices of the late Directors, and equally drawn in by their own too great credulity, and desire of gain; to have discharged any particular set, had been not only an injustice to the .rest, but, by dissolving the whole system, had involved them in utter ruin; which made a distribution of losses, and some abatement to all, absolutely necessary: it was indeed very much to be wished that such ease could have been given to the proprietors of the public debts, as would have made their property as valuable to them as they had enjoyed it for many years: but, as they had voluntarily consented to take stock, at. some rate or other, even at the time when they saw the stock raised to the highest pitch; the giving stock at one and the same price to them, and all others that were most immediately concerned, makes the provision as just and equitable as the nature of the thing will admit; it being impracticable so far to reconcile the different interests in ihisgeneral concern, as to make the conditions of those equal, that had engaged themselves at different rates* and upon Unequal terms. 44 The great and principal mischief arose from several concurring circumstances; froni the hard terms of most of the proprietors, occasioned by the high prices at which they had purchased stock; or the excessive rates at which as well the proprietors of public debts as the money-subscribers, had obliged themselves to take stock:from the demand of above seven millions payable to the public, which could only be raised out of the properties of those that were already too great sufferer.?, and which rendered the Company incapable of giving them any further ease or relief; from the disputes and contests at law, which were preparing to be carried on, not only between the Company and the subscribers of the redeemable funds, but between infinite numbers of private persons engaged in contracts for the sale and purchase of stock, and Subscriptions; from the impossibility of the money-subscribers making any further payments; from the great loss the Company had sustained, by the late Directors having lent out above eleven millions of the Company’s money, without any, or without sufficient, security; and from the very jittle prospect of recovering any considerable part thereof, without which it was impossible for the Company to comply with the demand of the public, but at the infinite expence, and insupportable loss, of all their adventurers; which must have proved destructive to the trade and credit of the kingdom. " These considenttioDS induced us to come 1 3 M ' Ogle, S9D] PARL. HISTORY, 7 George L1721Kings Speech on the [900: to the foregoing resolutions; being, as we conceive, the most proper means to enable the Company to give relief to such of their proprietors as most wanted and deserved it; to put aq end to all disputes at law; and to fix, settle, and ascertain, the several properties and interests of all persons concerned with the South-Sea Company-; to deliver infinite numbers of your majesty’s good subjects from the apprehensions of vexatious law-suits and prosecutions; and from the further demand of such excessive sums of paoney as roust sink and depress all public and private credit. " And, as the greatest mischiefs, which we now so justly complain of, have arisen from the, unwarrantable methods used by the late Directors of the South-Sea Company, in selling and disposing of such part of their increased capital stock as belonged to the Company; to remove such a foundation of Stockjobbing, and to prevent the like fatal consequences for the future, we thought it necessary to take care, that all the increased capital stock belonging to the Company, which, after the proposed distribution is made, shall remain undisposed o& be divided among all the proprietors of the said Company, in proportion to their several and respecti ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v7.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- uestion for adjourr xng was put, and carried by a majority of 78 voices against 29. vBy this time four of the Justices of the Peace for the city of Westminster attending, according to order, they were called in, and being at the bar, Mr. Speaker acquainted them, That the House was informed that there was a- great crowd of riotous people in the lobby and passages leading to this House, and that he was commanded by the House to direct them, the said Justices; to go and disperse the said riotous crowd, and to take care to prevent the like riots for the future. Hereupon the four Justices, attended by five or six constables, desired {he petitioners to clear the lobby and passages; and upon their refusal, caused the Proclamation against Rioters to he twice read, declaring to them, that if they continued there till the evince the contrary; therefore, they desire the course of 'the law should be stopped. Hence arises this fear of the law and law-suits: the law is au enemy to villany and oppression. But what these men call public credit, is, it seems only to be supported by them, and consequent? ly must be built on the destruction of the law, their opposite. * " But though it should be granted these men, that self-interest is the sole principle of action in a wise man (and many such moralists or wise men you may meet with in every coffeehouse) yet if, according to the Poet's definition of wisdom, ‘ Istuc est sapere, non quod ante pedes * niodo est videre, sed etiam iHa quaefutura sunt * prospicere/ it \yill then appear, that they are rery silly fellows, and little consider their own true interest, when they are desiring, that the laws, and benefit of them, should be suspended . — Bill/br restoring Public Credit. [91who we place at our head, what they are to expect from this House of Commons: — That-it was always Df the greatest importance, and absolutely necessary to the regularity of the proceedings of the House, to have in the chair a person remark* able for his knowledge in the laws of parliament; and therefore he should second the motion to put the honourable person again into his former station: a station which is indeed attended with infinite labour and difficulty; and is the greatest public trust that can be reposed in any man; But, That the honourable person named had, in the course of seven years, gone through such a vast variety of business, ai shewed there was not any labour impossible for ' him to conquer, though, of the greatest difficulty; and that no trust bad ever been reposed in him, which be did not discharge with the greatest equality, fidelity, and honour, to the intire satisfaction , of every gentleman in the Hoiite; ahdwhen vw have this honourable ptr- * 3] PARL. HISTORY, 9 Glow* X mr.^Tk Speaker's Spe«jh to tie Bag. [S * son among as, can we be in the least doubt one moment to call him again to the same Chair; hod desire him once more to sacrifice his own ease and quiet, to thb service of this House, end his country? And, That he hoped every tleman would concur in the motion. Tha ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ich was all I desired of them; being deter* mined not to pot my people to any more expence than what was absolutely necessary for their peace and security. " Some of the Conspirators have been taken up and secured; j and endeavours are used for the apprehending others. " My Lords, and Gentlemen, " Having thus in general laid before you the state of the present Conspiracy, I most heave to your consideration what is proper, and necessary to be done, for the quiet and safety of the kingdom. I cannot but believe the hopes and expectations of our enemies are very ill grounded, in flattering themselves that the late discontents, occasioned by private losses and misfortunes, however industriously and maliciously fomented, are turned into disaffection, and -a spirit of rebellion. 1 " Had I, since my accession to the throne, ever attempted any innovation in our established religion; had I, in any one instance, invaded, the liberty or property of my subjects; I should less wouder at any endeavours to alienate the affections of my people, and draw them into measures that can end in nothing but their own destruction. " But to hope to persuade a free people, in full enjoyment of all that is dear and valuable to them, to exchange freedom for slavery, the Protestant religion for Popery, and to sacrifice at once the price of so much blood and treasure as have been spent in defence of our present establishment, seems an infatuation not to be accounted for:bur, however vain and unsuccessful these desperate projects may prove in the end, they have at present- so far the desired effect, as to create uneasiness and diffidence in the minds of tny people, which our enemies labour to improve to their own advantage. By forming Plots, they depreciate all property that is vested iii the Public Funds; and then complain of the low state of Credit; they make an increase of the national expences necessary, and then clamour at the burthen of taxes; and endeavour to impute to my government as grievances, the mischieft and calamities which they alone create and occasion. " I wish for nothing more, . than to see the Public Expenoes lessened, and the great National Debt put in a method of being gradually reduced and discharged, with a strict regard to parliamentary faith; and a more favourable opportunity could never have been hoped for than the state of profound peace, which we now enjoy with all oar neighbours. But Public Credit will always languish; under daily alarms and apprehensions of public danger; and, as the enemies of our peace have been able to bring this immediate mischief upon us, nothing can prevent thorn from Continuing to subject the nation to new and constant chmcuities and > S7] PAUL. HISTORY, 9 Giorgb I. 1722. — Debate on Suspension [8 * - distresses, bat the wisdom, zeal and vigorous, resolutions, of this parliament. , uGentlemen of the House of Commons, u I have ordered the Accompts to be made up, and laid before you, of the extraodinary charge that has been incurred this summer, for the defence, and safety of the kingdom; and I have been particularly careful not to direct any expence to be made greater, or sooner, than was of absolute necessity. " I have likewise ordered Estimates to be prepared, and laid before you, for the service of the year ensuing: and I hope the further provisions, which the treasonable practices of our enemies have made necessary for our common safety, may be ordered with such frugality, as very little to exceed the supplies of the last year. " My Lords and Gentlemen, u I need not tell you of what infinite concern it is to the peace and tranquillity of the kingdom, that this parliament should upon this occasion exert themselves with a more than ordinary zeal and vigour. An entire union among all that sincerely wish well to the present establishment is now become absolutely necessary. Our enemies have too long taken advantage from your differences and dissentions. Let it be known, that the spirit of Popery, whi ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 3. Whether if it ought now to be done, it ought to be done for so long a time as a 4 year?9 these take in every thing relating to the point in hand. ' 44 The first of these’questions has been resolved constantly without any hesitation in the affirmative by the wisdom of all parliaments, ever since the making that act. Their behaviour, and the laws made by them, have ever shewed that it was a determined case with them, that upon occasion of any conspiracy'against the state, (the execution of which always depends upon the persons of the conspirators, and the liberty they enjoy to advise and to act,) it was absolutely necessary to grant to the executive power, for a time, a right to apprehend and de tain the persons of such as should be suspected to have a partin it. Otherwise, they always argued, there must soon be an end of our establishment, and all our liberties; and that without this, the Habeas Corpus Act itself must be much worse than mere dirty parchment or waste paper: for it must be itself the very instrument and immediate occasion of that ruin, and loss of liberty, it was designed to prevent. Accordingly, seven times, since the revolution, has that act suffered suspension, as absolutely necessary to the preservation of the act itself, and all the privileges of it. Seven* times have our predecessors^ with one ' voice in parliament, decreed such a power to the crown, for the preventing total ruin. And this, * with the highest reasons of state, allowed of and practised upon, by all states and kingdoms; and by none, more, than where the greatest liberty has flourished, which has caused the greatest dread of losing it. 44 But Ithere need not examples. The reason of the thing is plain. For what indeed avails it to have a good constitution, if there be not in that constitution somewhere lodged a power of preserving itself by extraordinary methods, upon extraordinary occasions ? What imports it, to have a roll of parchment, called an act of parliament for the liberty of the subject; if, at the call of itaminent danger, which threatens the destruction of this ket, and all acts, there be not a power lodged and exerted. 3)1 PARL. HISTORY* 9 G10R915 J. 1722. — Pro*# fti Me &jpautpn to b« tha great bulwark of the liberty of the N subject; and therefore, although in casesi of actual rebellion and intended invasion, that Act has been at times before suspended, yet it was. done sparingly and by degrees; and the utmost term for which it has been suspended, at any one time, has been the term of six months; which consideration puts us under a to confine the persons of some, that the peispns of all may not suffer by that liberty, which such conspirators enjoy, merely by virtue of tfiis act?. Tojwhat purpose will it be afterwards to ask, why did not they who knew of these conspirators* and who were to guard against them, at least cpnfine them where they could do no mischief? The answer must be, because they had no power by law to do it. The question then will be equally in vain, Why did they not ask and dethand it of parliament ? Why, because they had a veneration for the Habeas Corpus Act, the darling and defence of the people. The next Voice will then be this. Why do yon tell ys of our darling and our defence? call it no longer by those names; it is our poison and ruin, if a regard to that has brought destruction upon us, and prevented the measures which alone could have saved ns. We are now dead, for fear of death; and have lost this act, and all the effect of it, for ever, out of a superstitions dread of suffering traitors to lose the benefit of it for a season; " Thfe second of the foregoing questions is answered under the first. It only depends upon this, whether there be in fact, a design of introducing a Popish prince, at the hazard of all that is valuable to Britons and Protestants, now going on. Whoever doubts of this ip his own soul, I am free to give him leave to be intirely and for ever dis-satisfied with every thing done to prevent it; b ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- better, why is it consented to for sin months; why for four months? Nay efoy for one? But if six months can be reasonably allowed, let us try whether another six months may not be as reasonable. No. It is too much; it is too long to trust such a power. I grant jt; twelve months is tpolonga time. So is six months. So is foqr months. So is four days. . But if twelve months be necessary; if the occasion requires arid demands such a time; it isftfost as fitting, as twelve days, or twelve hours. It is a pain and a grief to think of doing it at all. No Englishman can consent to it, but with reluctance. But to none can it be half so pungent, or half so no* easy, as to those who are to execute it, (if necessity calls them to it,) unlens they are monsters, void of all concern and hardened into stone. " Take, therefore, my notion of this affair in short. If this were the spring time Qf the year, there is no one, I believe, who would bays asked* and* no one who would have consented to give more than six months, because that space of time would take in ah the summer* pud reach down towards the meeting of the parliament again: and the summer being the time always of the greatest danger, that would be provided for; and the sessions would come on time enough to make farther provision if necessary. This is the case at present, there i*a certainty of a more resolute design (withseveral persons of note actually embarked ink, )* Uisa pujchaps. has ever yet b^en known. S3] PARL. HISTORY, 9 George I. 1722. — Of Habeas Corpus u2. The detestable conspiracy which occasions the present suspension, having been discovered and signified to the city of London above five months since, and divers imprisoned for it a considerable time past, we cannot but conceive it to be highly'unreasonable to suppose, I hat the danger of this plot, in the hands of a faithful and diligent ministry, will continue for a year and more yet to ..come, and that in so high a degree as to require a suspension of the liberty of the subject (for so we 'take it to be) during all that time. ' " 3. His Majesty, having not visited his dominions abroad these two last years, will very pro- bably, leave the kingdom the next spring to that end; in which case, this great power of suspecting and imprisoning the subjects at will, and detaining them in prison tin the 24th of October, 1723, and for as much longer time ns till they can, after that, take the benefit of the Habeas Corpus Act (if they can then do it at all) will be lodged in the hands of some of our fellow subjects, who, vye are not so sure, will be above'all prejudices and partialities, as we are, that his Majesty will. " 4. This weakens the provision made' in the Bill for the Lords, and Members of thO other House of Parliament, / That they shall not be Tliere must be a provision at present, because the design is at present working, far from being at an end. Put the Case now, that this new law were to take effect but for four or six smooths, and (bat at the end of that term the ministers were to represent the necessity of prolonging it, (as was proposed by some,) if any such necessity should then appear. ' Not td mention the difficulties, and cavils; objections and outcries, which would then be raised afresh; Are we such strangers to the cunning and dexterity Of such Conspirators; as to doubt that all care would betaken to hush every thing into peace and quiet; that every mouth would be' taught not to open too loud; much mote every hand not to stir, during that four or nix months; and that there might be such a "discipline and management exercised, that, if it were fit to keep, or to call the parliament together, the ministers should not have it in their power to demonstrate clearly that there was any such mark of disturbance stirring, or any such treasons still visible, as would be sufficient to art el he continuance of this act. Bat as soon as that term expired, and the time for action came, what would they do, or what jwould they not (lo, when ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7th of May, says " Mrs. Illing-ton is in great tribulation for poor Harlequin, who is in a bad way, having slipped his leg again, before it was thoroughly well? however, his obligations to the lady are as great as if he had come safe, which he desires you to let her know." / The words ‘ he* and his* bei ng relative to Mrs. lllington, .shews it is a man that is spoken of: The bishop’s lady was dead at the time this leti ter was writ. And this disguise of putting Mrs. for Mr. is frequently, made use of in the intercepted letters; and is confirmed by is parallel instance immediately following. [, 172$. — "Reportqf tks Commons, [148 May the 9tl\, Dillon’s secretary writes to Kelly, and says, " Mrs. Chivers, (which will be •hewn to be general Dillon,) prays you wiU con* dole in his name on the death of Mrs. lllington.’ * It appears by these passages, that the dog was for Mr. Jones, alias lllington: and upon Kelly’s writing word that Mrs. Jones was dead, the correspondents condole on the death of Mrs. lllington; which shews Jones and Illing-ton to be the same, aod both to be made use of to denote the bishop. On the 11th of May, Motfield (who is the same with M usgrave, that is, the late lord Marr) sends a letter to Mr. lllington, inclosed under cover to Kelly; in which, after acknow-lodging the receipt of lllington’s letter of the 20th of April, he adds, " I did' not expect so soon after to have heard of a loss you have had siuce; for which 1 condole with you, and nothing which concerns, you so near can fail touching me, as in friendship it ought. It is though becoming us, as it is our duty to submit with resignation to what the just and great God thinks fit to order for us in this vain and transitory worldj but you know such things much better than I, that will not trouble you with saying any more upon it." This last paragraph seems to point out the character and function of the person to whom the letter was writ. Motfield adds, u I would fain hope that your own distemper will soon give you ease; " which agrees with the circumstance of the bishop’s being ill of the gout, at the time of his wife’s death. v This particularity, as also several others, which will be taken notice of, as to the bishop’s being in town or in the country, at the respec* tive times mentioned in the intercepted letters, have been carefully enquired into; and it appears by a paper annexed to the report, that these several circumstances do exactly agree with what is mentioned in the letters. Kelly writing to Musgrave (the late lord Marr) the 7th of May, says, Mrs. Jones is come to town: The same day writing to Chivers (Dillon) he says Mr. lllington is now io town; which again confirms Jones and lllington to be the same, end agrees with the inquiry made at that time. On the 10th of May, Kelly writes to Dillon’s secretary, lllington is gone into the country, and sent me word he would be in town on Tuesday night, when he has desired to see dm at a particular hour, by which I conclude it may be about business. And on Monday the 14th of May, (the day before/it is said, llling* ton was cpme to town) writing to the same person, he says, Jones is still in the country, hut has sent me word he will be in town to* morrow. These several circumstances, joined to Ney-noe’s declaration, that Kelly had told him, the bishop went sometimes by the name of Jones, and that Carte had told him, the bishop wenf by the name of lllington, shew, that wherever Jones'and lllington are named in Kelly’s corre- 140] PARL. HISTORY, 0 George I spondeuce, the bishop of Rochester is to be understood by those names. Your Committee therefore will next proceed to lay before you the part which Jones or Illing-ton appear to have borne in the treasonable correspondence. It appears by Kelly’s pocket-book, that Kelly set out for Paris on the 22d of February 1721-2, and returned to London about the 8th of April following. It appears by Mrs. Levett’s and John Malone’s deposition, that he came to Mr ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ix cant names, which were Illington, Jones, Cane, Howell, Quitwel, and Hacket; and that whoever Illington is, he was the person chiefly struck at." Qn the 18th of June he writes to Dillon, That it is absolutely necessary to make no more use of their present account book since those that have got part, may by the same method have got the whole; and that it will be highly improper for him to meddle with business, at least for some time." From this time forward your Committee observe that the names of Jones and Illington are no more beard of in the intercepted correspondence, neither does Kelly so frequently write letters of great business, but in hb stead Thomas Carte, clerk, takes up the management of the bishop’s correspondence. The letters from Carte are signed, and those to him directed, by the name of George Williams; and Mrs. Harbin, to whose house they were directed, having been examined before some lords of the council, has deposed on oath, that Carte desired her to take in letters so directed; and that she delivered yone so directed into his own hands. And in the cypher taken among Dennis Kelly’s papers in George Kelly’s hand-writing, Mr. Carte is designed by the fictitious names of Thomas and Trotter, wjbo appear, by comparing several passages in the letters, to mean the same person with George Williams. From the time of George Kelly’s being first taken up, the bishop of Rochester is denoted by the names of Rig and W eston, as will appear from the following circumstances. On the 30th of August, Kelly writes to Dillon a long letter, wluch contains the particulars of the bishop’s being taken into custody, examined, and committed. On the 14th of September, Dillon’s secretary writes to Kelly, " That his letter on the 30th of August came safe, and that the particulars he gave of Mr. Rig’s case were very acceptable to Dillon, whose concern for a true and worthy friend and relation cannot be doubted, and a longing de- ' sire to kuow her entirely clear of her distemper." In the same letter be desires to know what is become of Carte. That Rig denotes the bishop is farther confirmed by these particulars: Kelly in his first letter after his enlargement, writes word to Gerrard; " All I can do now, will be only to deliver to your cousin Rig any goods that you can send by private hands:He is determined not to receive them any other way, and indeed I cannot say he is in the wrong. How far this late affair may affect him, I cannot tell." Now since it appears that Kelly was formerly employed in conveying letters, to and from the bishop (which are often called goods in the intercepted correspondence) since the bishop himself had desired in his letter to Dillon, that no more letters of consequence might be trusted to the post, and since Kelly’s examination about the dog could affect no one but the bishop, it may justly be concluded, that Rig and the bishop are the same. That Weston is the bisbop, will appear from the following circumstances. On the 7th of June, Dillon’s secretary writes to Carte, and acknowledges the receipt of a letter from hhn of the 28th of May, (which was soon after Kelly’s being taken up) and after expressing great satisfaction, That the late rumours of a plot had not occasioned a total interruption of commerce, nor obliged any of their correspondents to go aside: he adds, that Dillon desires to be most kindly remembered to his good friend Mr. Weston, for whom he was in the greatest concern, on account of a story that his clerk bad been laid up for debt, but that be hopes Carte's next letter will put him at full ease in this matter, " ' laU] PARL. HISTORY, ' 9 George This plainly has reference to Kelly’s being taken up, and his relation of clerkship to the bishop has been fully explained by what goes before. v On the 14th of Jane, Carte writes to Dillon's secretary, and endeavours to put him at full ease in relation to Mr. Weston, by telling him, "That Mr. Weston is in the country, that he saw him two days ago, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- fey Manuscripts, does not appear; neither is It certain who Finch is, but he is spoke of as being in high repute with Weston. On the 1st of August, Dillon writes to Carte, " That he cannot apply to a more sufficient judge than Weston about his concern with Mr. Finch; and he often repeats, that he makes a most particular case of Mr. Weston’s judgment, that he relies intirely on Weston’s friendship and advice, " and other expressions of the like nature. On the 14th of July, Dillon writes a letter to Weston (the bishop) enclosed to Carte, in the following words: * To Mrs. Weston, inclosed to Mr. George Williams at Mrs. Harbin’s over against So* merset House. " Dear Madam, Satu, 25 July 1722. " I cannot on any reasonable grounds complain of your silence, though long it appears, because I am informed of the situation your health, and the concerns of your family, are in by bankrupts and law-suits; permit me however to fulfill a part of my duty in presenting you, my best respects, and unalterable attachment to you and yours. I wish this may find you so far recovered from past mischances, as that you may be once more in a humour of affording me a comfortable line. I have all the stock I bought lying by, and I intend it shall remain so, until you advise me of the proper time to dispose of it, being fully convinced that in the slippery age we live in, I cannot confide to any better than you. I hear many say that our stocks will infallibly rise again to a good height, by Mr. Walpole’s wise and able management; from whence I should hope not to be so much a loser in reserving mine. Still my lights *at this distance can be but very imperfect: Therefore, .dear madam, I will earnestly pray your direction, when you find leisure to grant me this favour, as also of forgiving, this trouble, for which I offer amends in any manner I can be of service to you. The few acquaintance of yours I converse with in these parts, are well, and rely, as I do, on your friendly advice, in a most particular manner about their concerns in the funds. They desire you will be pleased to admit Mr, Skinner to receive your commands, who is directed to call upon you, and explain some particulars too tedious for a letter. He seems to be very ready at business, and will obey your orders punctually. I am with the greatest esteem and sincerity, dear Madam, yours, &c. Digby." On the 16th of July, Dennis Kelly writes word to France; that Skinner arrived in town the night before, that he had been to wait on him, longing much to know bow the fall of stocks affected his friends. Oa the 26th of July, Kelly writes to Dillon’s secretary, " That Rig and Skin had been lately together, and. that before they met, Rig bad sent to-him to know, if Skin stood well with Dillon arid partners." He adds. " That Rig V«h*VIiF still seems to promise his assistance, if he calf get the better of his suspicions; and that Rig went into the country the day after Skin and he bad been together/’ It appears by a deposition annexed to this Report, that the bishop came to town on the 19th, and returned to Bromley on the 21st of July. On (be same day that Kelly writ, Stanley vwho is the same with Skinner) writes to Dillon I have been with yoor correspondent to whom the letter of credit was sent, who has partly answered my demands, and promises td comply in all points with your directions." He then adds, " I most now give you an account of what product may be hoped for front the public funds." Then follows a paragraph, some few letters of which are in cypher, but as yonr Committee ia informed, in such an easy and obvious one* that any one that reads it, may with the least attention decypher it. In this paragraph, instead df saying a word about the funds, he acquaint* Dillon, " That they are certainly betrayed by some one intirely in the secret, who has given such light into all their affairs, that the most minute circumstances are perfectly found out; that therefore he must caution him, as he is requested, to b ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- of a sudden change for the better, he must retire to some cheap part of the country, if Dillon allows of it; expresses his great obligations to Dilloo, and his readiness to execute any private commands of his;" and adds, (what appears to your Committee very remarkable) " If I were m a condition to bear the weight of public business) Dillon should never be at the trouble to employ another; but that he is heartily sorry Dillon himself has done it so long, for ungrateful, people on this side; says, he never intended to trouble his friends on this side on his own private account, hut public ones of this nature are what he thinks they ought to take care of, since they are best able to do it, and expect the best returns for it." Your Committee observe from these postages, that, though Kelly would have it believed he only coresponded with persons in France onprivafie affairs, relating to the stocks, yet he here owns in effect, that he had been ' igiti^ed \rs\ PARL. HISTORY, 9 Oeoboe 1 trusted with affairs of a public nature, and that those transactions having brought on him the displeasure of the government, it was reasonable for him to hope for support from those in England, who expected the best returns from his and Dillon’s joint labours. Your Committee farther observe, that this letter was directed to Crow, and yet in it was inclosed one from Ireland, relating to family affairs, directed to James Talbot, esq. On the 4th of July, Glascock writes to Kelly, u That Dillon intended to have sent him a letter of credit by this post drawn on Mr. Harrold, but kept it back till he heard from him for fear by removal into the country, or by any " other accident, it should be lost." On the 11th of July, Glascock repeats the same, and his suspicion that the letters to Andrews had miscarried. Then acquaints Kelly with kind expressions that he had seen from Dr. Freeman and Mrs. Malcolm (the Pretender and his spouse) in relation to Hawksby’s first operation in his late violent distemper. Your Committee observe from what follows in this letter, that, though in Plunket’s cypher Hawksby stands for king George, yet m the Pretender's cypher it stands for George without any addition, and appears for that reason to be made use of to aenote George Kelly in this place. Be that as it will, it is evident from what follows, that Kelly is the person here meant. The Pretender’s words mentioned in this letter are as follows. uHawksby’s steady and resolute behaviour in the first operation answers the good opinion I have long had of him: I am folly persuaded that all the surgeons will do hereafter shall not be able to alter his temper; and I hope be will come off with patience and a short confinement, by which his health will become more perfect and satisfactory to his friends." Glascock then adds, " Mrs. Malcolm (the Pretender's spouse) in her short way of expression, says, I am truly glad that honest Hawksby is recovered, for I take him to be a very valuable man." Then he says, " I know these compliments will be comfortable to a sick person- from his friends, for which reason I trouble you with them, as a proof of my attention towards one I wish so well." These last words shew, that this comfort was intended for Kelly, to support him under his trouble, which is disguised under the notion of sickness; and your Committee think it unnecessary for them to make any observation on a passage, which shews so plainly for whose sake it was understood he had brought this trouble on himself. Glascock next tells him, u That as be is upon regulating his new book of accounts, he should be glad to know whether Kelly and Jemison bad those by them, they and Glascock rectified together." This shews that Kelly’s journeys into France were net wholly on private affairs, and con- . \729.-~Jtepori of the Common *, [176 firms Neynoe’s account-of his having seen cyphers in Kelly’s bands, end is again confirmed by the cypher found among Dennis Kelly’s papers, which is in George ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is confirmed by Mr. Crawford’s Letter from Paris, 19-30 of May, in which he says, There is one captain who frequents the Cocoa-Tree and Will’scofifee-bouse, who is much in the confidence of Dillon and lord Lansdown) he was here some months ago; and is at present very active in England." Your Committee find, that he was abroad for several months the latter end of the year, 1721, and that some of the Letters, sent to him by fictitious names from France, were directed to Will’s coffeehouse and-the Cocoa-Tree. The matters which they find him principally concerned in by the intercepted Letters) are, the remittance of the bill of Exchange sent over from the persbn called Repney, the receipt of which is acknowledged in several Letters to him, his being, present at a consultation with the persons called Rep. Ho. and Den. and his being to carry over to France their final answer, together with a new cypher, list of directions, and other verbal instructions, from George Kelly, for Dillon, Glascock, and Talbot. As George Kelly’s correspondence was closely connected with that of the bishop of Rochester, Thomas Carte, and Dennis Kelly, and as he appears to have been privy to Pluuket’s, so your Committee see reason to believe, that he was not a stranger to that of Sample, who Appears to he mentioned in a Letter from Ger-rand to Kell)-. Your Committee find, that John Sample, being examined before the secretaries of state, and two of your Committee, owned, that Francis, son of the lord Sempill, commonly so called, had been in England that summer, and returned to France about three weeks before his examination, ‘-Which was taken on the 4th of August last. That during his stay in England, he (John Sample) was twice in company with him, and that two Letters found in his trunk were received by him from the said Francis Sempill before his coming to England. ' In the first of these Letters, dated June 2d-13th, 1722. Fr. Sempill tells him, V That they are daily confirmed Mrs. HeWs’s distemper is but imaginary or, counterfeit, " By Mrs. Hews, be said, was meant the King, and by his Dis- 11 <21.-relating to the Conspiracy. [18 * Fr. Sempill then tells him, «That this baa put a stop to Mr. Staodwell’s proceedings (Stand well he owned to mean the Pretender) but that this cannot disconcert StandwelTs measures, nor even delay any thing above a few weeks. " That perhaps he may soon produce him# self to their cost, but it is not yet fall time to give him (Sample) hopes of that kind. He adds, that they have not yet heard from Mr.HouMer, * whom Sample, explained to be the late dyke of Ormonde. Your Committee observe, that this agrees with the accounts given in the foraner parts of their Report, of the attempts that were to have* been made in England about the beginning of May, which were prevented, though not ini tirely discontinued, by the discoveries made here, and by the encampment. Sample being shewn the copies of several Letters taken at the post-office, directed to Mr. SempiU at Paris, and enclosing others, owned, as appears by his examination, the writing of them all, and gave explications of the name* made use of in them. One of these Letters is to Standwell, whom lie owned to mean the Pretender, and another is mentioned to be for Glascow’s master, 1 which is probably general Dillon. He likewise owned his having writ to the late duke of Ormonde, and to Kennedy his secretary; and while he was in eustody of the messenger, be began to put down in writing a confession of his crimes, which was found in his room after his escape. But though some of his Letters appeared dictated to hwn by other persons, your Committee do -not find he would discover who those persons were. Your Committee will next proceed to lay before you the substance of the several papers and Examinations referred to -them, relating to Mrs.* Spelmsn, -alias Yallop, in doing. which, they find themselves-indispensably obliged to mention a person of high rank and distinction, Thomas duke of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- onm In the ghurich? There is 9&5] PARL. HISTORY, 9 George L >723 — JKsAop [S86 Dot a man in my office farther removed from this than lam; I have a hundred times said, and sincerely resolved, I would have been nothing more than I was, at a time when I little thought of being any thing before, and I can give an instance of this kind if 1 thought proper. Was money my aim ? I always despised it, too much perhaps, considering what occasion I sun now Hke to have for it; for out of a poor bishopric of 500/. per annum, I have laid out vo less than 2,000l. towards the repairs of the church and episcopal palace; nor did I take one'shilling for dilapidations, and the rest of roy -little income has been spent as is necessary, as I am a bishop. Nor do I repent of these - expences now, (though since my long.confinement I have not received the least part of the income of my deanry") not doubting in the least; but that God who hath liberally provided for me hitherto, will still do it, and on his good providence I securely rely. Was I influenced by any dislike of the established religion, and secretly inclined towards a church of greater pomp and power? I have, ay Lords, ever since I knew what popery was, opposed it, and the better I knew it, the more I disliked it. i begun my study iu divinity, when the Popish controversy grew hot about that immortal book of Tillotson’s, when he undertook the defence of the Protestant cause in general, and as such I esteemed him above all. You will pardon me, ray Lords, if I mention one thing: Thirty years ago I writ in defence of Martin Luther, and have preached, and writ to that purpose from my infancy, and whatever hap- S; ns to roe, I wifi suffer any thing, and will, by od’s grace, burn at the stake, rather than depart from any material point of the Protestant religion, as professed in the church of Eng- Once more:Can I be supposed to favour arbitrary power ? The whole tenor of my life hath been otherwise: I was always a friend of the liberty of the subject, and, to the best of my power, constantly maintained it: I may have been thought mistaken in the measures I took to support it. It matters not by what party I was called, so my actions are uniform. To return to the point? The charge brought against me, in the manner it is brought, is improbable; if I could be guilty of it, I must have acted under a spirit of infatuation; yet I have never been thought an idiot or a madman. My Lords, as to the pains and penalties contained in this bill, they are great and grievous, beyond example in their nature and direction. I am here, my Lords, and have been here expecting an 'immediate trial. I have, my Lords, declined no impeachment. The correspondence with the earl of Clarendon was made treason, but with me it is only felony; yet he was allowed the conversation of his chil- dren, 'by the express word of the act:mine are not so much as to write, so. much as to be sent to md. What is toost particular in my case I wijL repeat distinctly, that my reverend brethren may hear it. I am rendered incapable of using or exercising any office; function, authority, ot power, ecclesiastical, not only ia hk Majesty’s dominions, but any where else.: very bard.! that such spiritual power as is not derived from men, but God himself, should be taken front me. And I am not only deprived of dll offices, dignities, and benefices ecclesiastical, and for ever banished the realm, but likewise precluded from the benefit of royal clemency, and made utterly incapable of any pardon by his; Majes* ty, his heirs and successors. " My Lords, I insist on my innocence, that!am not guil* ty; and if I am not proved so, your lordships will thus judge; if otherwise, I persuade my* self I shall find some degree of mercy. You will not strip a man. of his substance; and the* send him where he cannot subsist; you will not send him among strangers, and then hinder others from performing humanity to him; you will not give him less time, to order his aflairs and d ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rge I. \l%$< — agokut the Bishop of Rochester. [$99 ' as one positive witness to the fact. I beg leave to explain this in the words of my lord chief justice<€oke, (1 Instit. fol. 6.) ‘ When a trial is * by witnesses regularly, the affirmative ought * to be proved by two or . three witnesses; — — * but when the trial is "by verdict of twelve * men, there the judgment is not given upon * witnesses, or other kind of evidences, but * upon the verdict; and upon such evidence as 1 is given to the jury, they give their verdict; * ...and many times juries^ together with * other matter, are much induced by preiump-/ thins/ And indeed, if no man could be convicted of murder or robbery, or other crimes of that nature, but by two positive witnesses that •aw the fact done, nothing would be easier or safer, than the commission of those crimes; and no man could have any security, either for his person or his estate: And therefore, if hi cases of high-treason our law requires positive witnesses, it is not from any tribral necessity, or point of conscience; but from political reasons, which must, and always will be, subject to the judgment of parliament. Having now done with what was from the bar peculiarly applied to this Pencil, I now beg your lordships* leave to proceed more directly co the bill itself. And here two things are necessary to be considered, in order to convince your lordships, that it is a bill fit to be passed. The first is, the lawfulness of it; the second is, the prudence or expediency of it. As to the lawfulness of it, it will be necessary also to consider, first, Whether your manner of proceeding in this bill be lawful? Secondly, Whether the bishop be really guilty of the crimes charged upon him. As to the manner of proceeding, many things have been objected; That it is by way of bill, and not a trial in the course of law; That evidence has been admitted, that would not have been admitted in the other side, for furnishing ltim .with reasons for keeping up the present number of troops: That the prosperous situation of affairs, the peace with all powers t abroad, and the perfect tranquillity at home, being, io a great measure, owing to the good posture we were in, both by sea and land, which made us respected abroad, and secure at home, it were imprudence ndt to continue those forces on the same foot. That the parliament had indeed obliged king William of glorious memory, to reduce his army to 7000 men. " But what was the consequence of it ? Why truly, the French king was thereby encouraged to acknowledge and proclaim the Pretender, as king of England, and to seize on the monarchy of Spain, which was the occasion of a long* bloody, and expensive war. That as to the reduction of the army wftev the peace of Utrecht, it was well known that it was principally owing to those who were for having an army of another stamp. That this reduction would have proved facal to the Protestant succession, had some people had time to ripen their designs. That atf least it encouraged a great rebellion soon aller his MnfrstjV happy, and almost mira- culous aceassion to tba prowfij and as the spirits and discontents which raised that rebellion were not yet wholly extinguished and safe dued, they would soon see insurrections* at hornet and the peaee of Europe dietmhed abroad, if they parted with the army. The question being pat upon Mr. Pelham's motion, it was carried in the affirmative fay 206voices against 60; and resolved, 1. That the number ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- r establishing them in their just rights, and of some practices of the Masters which the said Earl thought ought to be reformed; he was convinced, that the same was a work of too great a consequence for him singly to attempt; and, being highly sensible of his most sacred Majesty's paternal goodness to his people, did presume humbly to beseech his Majesty, as the fountain of justice, to depute some of his most honourable privy council, to take the matters aforesaid into .consideration, in order to the establishing such regulations, as might tend to the honour of that high Court, and to the advantage of his Majesty's subjects being suitors there; which request his Majesty, out of his wonted goodness, was pleased to receive very graciously, and named several lords, and other honourable persons of his privy council, to be a Committee to take the same into consideration; and, pursuant to his Majesty's command, the said Committee met, and began with the accompts of the said Masters; wherein the said Earl begs leave to appeal to such of your lordships who attended in that Committee, whether he did not contribute to the utmost of his power, to have every thing done which the said Committee thought expedient; And the said Earl saith, That he made all such orders as were by them judged requisite; and so pressed the execution thereof, that not only the accompts of all the Masters then in being were brought in, but all the securities in all their hands; and the cash of most of them were actually lodged in the Bank of England; and therefore the said Earl is greatly surprised to find himself charged with obstructing the taking those accompts which he had thus desired might be taken, and contributed to the taking of them with all his power; And the said Earl saith. 449] fcAEL. HIST. M Gsoroe L 1725 — Artickt of . {150 That Ira never thought of preventing parliamentary inquiry, any olherwise than by making it unnecessary, and procuring to. the suitors a full redress of all their grievances, and rectifying whatever he found amiss; and that he looked upon to be his duty; and kegs leave to say it here once for all, in answer to all the several insinuations of that kind contained in the Articles. * And the said Earl further saith, That, while the said Accompts. were taking, every one of the said Masters declared over and over, " That they had effects sufficient to answer their whole accompts; " and the said Earl firmly believed the same to be true; and as all of them that he saw (which he believes were all, or at least all but Mr. Kynaston) had told the said Earl, "That they were able to answer their accompts,; *’ and when they brought their accompts to the said Earl, for him to lay before the said Committee, Mr. Holford had wrote under his accompt some declaration to that effect; and some others of them, as he remembers, had made use of some other expressions, which he thought not so proper, and some; as he believes, had wrote nothing (but be cannot distinguish the persons): And the said Earl thinking that, when the said accompts came to be laid before the Committee of council by him, it would be proper that the same thing should be declared to the Committee, which had been said to him singly; he advised them all to write the same words under their accompts; and did tell them, in great -sincerity ana friendship, "That, at a time when so many men’s mouths were open against them as insolvent, it would be for their honour and interest to make it appear that they were able and sufficient, as he then believed them to be but never thought of a contrivance to have them deceitfully appear or seem what they really were not; and he says, they did then withdraw to make the subscription, or at least so many of them whose accompts were theu ready, and soon after delivered them to the said Earl, who carried them with him to the Committee of council, whither he was then, going, without looking opon them; but, upon reading them at the council, it was observed, that t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- others, some living, and others long since deceased/ but whose descendents are now peers and members of this House, in the consideration of the matters and crimes charged on himself; which circumstance of the Defence being, as it seems to us, in the opiqion of the Earl, material to be examined into upon the Trial, we are of opinion that in this respect also the place of Trial is become of more importance, and most proper to be in Westminster-hall, and not at the bar of this House, where the examinations must unavoidably, as we conceive, be less public, and, in that respect less satisfactory. 5. " It appearing to us by several Reports delivered to this House by hia Majesty’s direction, which relate to the administration of justice in the High Court of Chancery, whilst the said Earl was Lord Chancellor, that there are very great deficiencies of the money and effects' belonging to orphans and widows, and others the suitors of the Court; which money and effects were brought into the Court, or into the hands of the Masters in Chancery; and which deficiencies, as they appear to us, amount to a great many thousand pounds, as yet wholly unsatisfied and unsecured; for this reason we are of opinion, that it is necessary, for the public satisfaction, and particularly of the suitors concerned, that this Trial should he had, not only in the. moss solemn manner, but in the most public place also. 6. u We do not find, that any Impeachment of the Commons has been tried at the bar of this House, or in any other place than in Dii ed Ji65] PARL. HIST.il 1 Grorgi L 172 Earl Answer, [466 : Westminster-Hall, since the Restoration of / king Chanted 2, and before that period the impeachment of the earl of Strafford was tried in Westminster-Hall j we also find that since the t Restoration, every peer who has been tried by this House, either on an Impeachment or Indictment, has had his Triai in Westminster Hall, and not at the bar of this House; and sometime after the late Revolution, private persons impeached by the Commons, for frauds and cheats relating to the Lutstring company, and private traffic, were appointed by this House to be tried in Westminster-Hall; the; Impeachment of Dr. Sacheverell, for misdemeanors committed in the pulpit, was tried tiiere also: for which reasons we are of opinion, that this Impeachment being, as we conceive, of the highest consequence to the honour of the crown and kingdom, ought to be considered, . at least with equal regard as to the place of trial, and in every other respect with any of those Trials before mentioned; and the rather, for that the method of proceedings on Trials of Impeachments, if had at the bar of this House, contrary to the general course since the Restoration, are therefore more unsettled by many late precedents, and, in that respect, may be liable to more difficulties and delays, than if had in Westminster HaU. f. We think that no consideration of delay, which may he occasioned for a little time by tiie preparations- to be made in Westminster Hall, or any ether account during the Trial, are an equivalent consideration, or to be balanced With; the public satisfaction, which, in every respect, is, in our opinion, due to this proceeding, and especially with regard to the place of trial.----(Signed,) Wharton, Scarsdale, Boyle, Strafford, Gower, Foley, Lech-mere, Coventry." I dissent for all the aforementioned reasons, axeept the fourth. — - — (Signed)Montjoy. Then the Question being put, That Thomas earl of Macclesfield be tried at the bar of this -House, on Thursday se’nnight at 11 o’clock in the forenoon, upon the Impeachment for High Crimes and Misdemeanors, exhibited against him by the House of Commons; it was resolved in the Affirmative. Dissentient ’ For the reasons mentioned in the foregoing Protest. ----(Signed,) Scarsdale, Strafford, Foley, Wharton, Coventry, Boyle, Lech* snore. April 86. The Commons received the following Message from the Lords: * Mr; Speaker, The Lords have commanded ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Majesty and the British nation to be insulted; but that we will, to the utmost of our power, as the exigency and necessity of affairs shall require, stand by and support your Majesty against all attempts to disturb the public repose." The King'* Answer.] To this Address his Majesty returned the following Answer: " Gentlemen, " " I return you my thanks for this dutiful And loyal Address. I make no doubt but yoa will soon be sensible of the good effect of this seasonable vigour and resolution. You may be assured, that I will make no use of the confidence you repose in me, but for preserving to us the blessings of peace, and for promoting the honour and interest of this kingdom." A Supply voted.] Jan. 22.' The Commons took into consideration his Majesty's Speech^ to both Houses, and a motion being made for a Supply, the same was referred to the Grand Committee on the 24th instant. Jan. 24. The Commons went into a Grand ' Committee, to consider of the motion for granting a Supply to his Majesty, which was unanimously resolved upon. Debate in the Commons on the Number of the land Forces.] Jau. 28. The House having resolved itself into a Grand Committee, considered farther of the Supply, and in particular . of the charge of the guards, garrisons, and other his Majesty's land forces in Great Britain, for the year 1726. ’ Mr. Henry Pelham opened the debate, and moved, That provision be made for the same number of men, for guards^ garrisons, and land forces, for the year 1726, as were provided for the last ye&r* This was opposed by Mr. Shippen, who thereupon stood Up, aad spoke as follows: Mr. Speaker, My sentiments concerning a Standing Army in time of peace are. well known here, and it may seem unnecessatty, perhaps be thought impertinent, in me to debate anew on a worn and exhausted topic, when other gentlemen' who entertain the same sentiments, are pleased to be silent. But surely the question before you is not becojnea motion of course; surely as long as the grievance is continued on one hand, so long there is a right of complaint on the other; and that complaint, I should think, may without offence be continued, till it can be proved, that the British government is in its nature military, or ought to be made so. I do not intend to trouble you with what I have formerly urged, or to use any argument drawn from the expence and burthen, or from the terror and oppression which have been brought upon this and other nations, by raising And keeping up a greater number of forces than were absolutely necessary in time of peace: pot but that the gradations by which armies. Vol. VIII. ' Aith all their inconveniences, have been first introduced into free states, and afterwards imposed upon them, ought to be had in perpetual remembrance? We ought never to forget, that such steps have been usually taken to gratify the views of ambitious princes, to carry on the schemes of evil ministers, to terrify parliament* into obedience, and to make the members of them dumb spectators of the miseries of their couotry. ; I will not insist on these arguments, however just in themselves, however proper on other occasions, because they would be unapplicablo to the present situation of our affairs. For we have a Prince, whose only aim is to continue to us the blessings of peace and plenty; we have a ministry, whose merits are above my commendations; we have a parliament, which acts with a spirit superior to all itiiluences and to all temptations. Besides, every year has it# particular circumstances, and those particular circumstances ought to guide our resolutions, when we are making our annual parliamentary provisions for the public service. I thought our circumstances both at home and abroad, were so prosperous the last session, that we might without hasard have disbanded at least the 4,000 augmentation-troops. But the majority of the House was of another opinion. There was then, indeed, a rendezvous, though uot a formed congress, of plenipotentiaries, v ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- harmless method of providing for the security of the barrier, should prove an obstacle to the common friendship of neighbouring powers. " Which things being thus, the injury offered to trntli, the honour and dignity of his •acred Imperial and Catholic Majesty require, that they should be exposed to your Majesty, -to the kingdom of Great Britain, and to the world. And his sacred Imperial Majesty demands that reparation which is due to him by all manner of right, for the great injuries which have been done him by these many imputations." A Letter from the Count de Sinzendorf, Chancellor of the Court to his Imperial and Catholic Majesty, sent to Mons. de Palm, the Emperor’s Resident at the Court of Great Britain, dated from Vienna the 20th of February, 1727. "His Imperial and Catholic Majesty judges it indispensably necessary, upon the step which has been lately taken in the country where you are, to send .you in the dispatch here annexed, a Memorial, which you are to present to the king of Great Britain, and to publish afterwards, that the whole nation may be acquainted with it, whilst answers are preparing to certain pamphlets published before the opening of the parliament. u It is easy to see that the Speech was made for no purpose, but to excite the nation to a rupture, and open war with the emperor and Spain, and to make the parliament approve the precipitate and burthensome measures which the government has taken for private ends, bat too well known: that not only unwarrantable inferences and pretences have been made use of, but that ihanifest falshoods have been boldly advanced for indisputable facts, a proceeding never seen before among powers who ought to respect each other, when in the most flagrant wars; from whence it ought to be presumed, that the King, whose sacred mouth ought to be au oracle of truth, must have been himself abused by the sugges- and resentment at the affront offered to his Majesty, by the Memorial delivered by M. de Palm; and, in a particular manner, at his audaciousness in printing and dispersing it tions and false reports of those, who have the honour to possess his confidence; and who think it their interest to inflame, by these means, both the prince, and the nation, for their own private views and personal preservation, without any regard to the honour of the majesty of the throne, or to the evils which may result from hence to their own country, and to all Europe. " For these purposes they establish a foundation, and lay down as a certain fact, that there is a positive Article in the Treaty of Alliance between the emperor and the king of Spain, to place the Pretender on the throne of Great Britain, and to invade that kingdom with opeu force; and this they do, a few days after the minister plenipotentiary of the Catholic King had, before his departure from London, in a Memorial presented in the sacred name of his master, publicly and in the most authentic manner, disavowed these imputations, which sufficiently prove the Emperor’s disavowal of the same, since the pretended Article was equally imputed to the two powers, and one of them could not have stipulated any thing in the same Treaty without the other. Besides which, it is to be considered, that six months ago, upon 'the first reports of these false suppositions, the emperor and king of Spain, in order to silence them, proposed a formal, act, " de non offendendo, " into which all the allies on one side and the other might enter, and which would effectually have secured the peaceable possessions, of each of the powers contracting, either in the Treaty of Vienna, or that Hanover, until such time as it had been possible by one general Treaty to remove and quiet the complaints of all sides: but these proposals were rendered ineffectual, by the same views of those persons, who chose rather to hinder the peaceable effects of these just designs, by attacks and open hostilities. " It is farther known, and it is even notori* ous by the solemn communicati ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- my heart, and give yon a perfect and just sense of my fixed resolution, by all possible means, to merit die love and affection of my people } which I shall always look upon as the best support and security of my crown. << And as the religion, liberty, property, and a due execution of the laws, are the most valuable blftsings of a free people, and the peculiar privileges of this nation; it shall be my constant care to preserve the constitution of this kingdom, es it is now happily established in Church and State, inviolable in all its parts; and to secure to all my subjects' the full enjoyment of their religious end civil rkhta. ' * I see with greet pleasure the happy effects of that vigour and resolution which was exerted, in the last session of parliament, for the defence of the rights and possessions of this nation, and for maintaining- the tranquillity and balance of power in Europe. The strict nnion and harmony which has hitherto subsisted among the allies of the treaty of Hanover has chiefly contributed to the uear prospect of a general peace; I have therefore given all ray allies the strongest assurances of pursuing the same measures, and of making good the engagements entered into by the crown of Great Britain. * The cfaearfulness with which the Supplies necessary for carrying on this great work were raised, making it but jusuthat the public exp pence should be lessened as soon as the circumstances of affairs will permit; I have already given orders for sending back some of the regiments brought from Ireland; and will proceed to reduce my forces, both by sea and land, as soon as it can be done without prejudice to the common cause, and consistent with the interest of my kingdom. u Gentlemen of the House of Commons; " You know very well that the grant of the greatest part of the Civil list revenues is now determined, and that it is necessary for you to make a new provision for the support of me and my family. I am confident it is needless for me, in any particular manner, to recommend to your care the consideration of what so nearly and personally concerns me; and I am persuaded, that the experience of past times, and a due regard to the honour and dignity of the crown, will prevail.upon you to give me this first proof of your zeal and affection, in a manner answerable to the necessities of my government. " My Lords, and Gentlemen; u I recommend it to you to give all possible dispatch to such business as shall necessarily be brought before you; the season of the year, and the circumstances of time, requiring your presence in the country, and making it improper to carry this session into any great length." Which Speech being ended; his Majesty was pleased to retire. The Lords* Address of , gratulation, and Thanks.] Upon a Motion of the earl of Chesterfield, the Lords unanimously voted the following Address of Condolence, Congratulation, ana Thanks; which was presented on the 38th. " Most Gracious Sovereign; ' * We your Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in parliament assembled, beg leave to return your Majesty our most hearty and unfeigned Thanks for your Majesty’s most gracious Speech from the throne^ and to assure your Majesty, that though we are affected with the utmost sorrow at the Death of our late gracious Sovereign, our hearts are at the same time filled with an inexpressible joy at your Majesty’s peaceable and happy Accession to the throne of your royal ancestors. * Your Majesty’s tender concern for your people, and your most gpicious and solemn declaration, That you will always esteem their * love and affection as the best support of your * crown; that it shall be your constant care to * preserve the constitution of this kingdom in-‘ violable, as it is now happily established ia * church and slate; and that you will secure to * all year subjects the full enjoyment of their * religious and civil rights/ claims onr most sincere and dutiful acknowledgments; and may jus ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ofitable to the living. Then the previous question being put, That the question be now put, it passed in the negative. The King's Speech at the Close of the Session.] May 28. The King came to the House of Peers, * and the Commons attending, his Majesty made the following Speech to both Houses: " My Lords and Gentlemen; " The dispatch you have given to the public business, and the advanced season of the year, . make it proper for me to put an end to this session of parliament. " The zeal and unanimity which you have shewn in ail your proceedings, in regard to the true interest of your country, and in support of the common cause, have fully answered my expectations, and will, I am persuaded, give general satisfaction here at home, and cannot Fail of having their due weight and influence abroad. " I expect very soon to hear that the Congress is opened. The Preliminary Articles having laid so good a foundation for a general pacification, I hope all parties will bring with them such favourable dispositions for finishing and perfecting this desirable work, that we shall soon see a happy conclusion of this important transaction, with that satisfaction to me and my Allies, which may reasonably be expected from the justice of our cause, and the mutual confidence which is established among us. * The Order against the Admission of Strangers into the House of Lords was so strictly observed during this session, that no account of their lordships1 Speeches or Debates was published, as usual, after the recess. " Gentlemen of the House of Commons} " I return you my Thanks for the effectual Supplies you nave raised for the service of the year. The prudent application yon have made of the produce of the Sinking Fund will contribute to the support of the Public Credit; and the power you have given me of borrowing 500,000l. for i he discharge of the Seamen’s Wages, will meet with universal approbation. " My Lords and Gentlemen; " It is unnecessary for me to recommend, in any particular manner, to your care, the preservation of the public peace in your several stations and countries: your own inclinations wilbnaturally lead you, by a due execution of the laws, and a faithful adininistration'of justice, to promote upon all occasions the welfare and prosperity of my people." Then the Lord Chancellor prorogued the Parliament to the 8th of August: It was afterwards further prorogued to the 21st of January 1729. SECOND SESSION , OF THE SEVENTH PARLIAMENT OF GREAT BRITAIN. The King's Speech on Opening of the Serntm.] January 21, 1729. The Parliament being met at Westminster, the King came to the House of Peers, and the Commons being also come thither, his Majesty made thefoll owing Speech to both Houses: " My Lords and Gentlemen; " I am sensible you are met together in expectation of being informed of the present situation of public affairs; and of receiving that satisfaction which the expences already made, and the apprehension of their being continued for some louger time, make it just and reasonable for you to desire. " The execution of the Preliminary Articles, and the opening of the Gongress at Soissons, laid a foundation for you to entertain hopes of seeing, very soon, the happy fruits and effects of a general pacification. " But the various and extensive views, which fell under consideration, in settling and reconciling the different interests and pretensions of so many different powers, appeared to be a work of so much time and difficulty, that the project of a Provisional Treaty was thought of as a proper expedient; which being concerted and negotiated among the ministers of the principal powers, parties to the Treaties of Hanover and Vienna, was approved of by me and my allies, not without reasonable hopes of the concurrence of the Imperial Court and the Court of Madrid. . " But no definitive Answer being yet returned by either of them, nor the Project of the the fate of Europe is still held in Mispence> !• * €69} PARL. HISTORY, 2 Gb ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'Right of the Subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Right of the Subject ['Right of the Subject']; Right of the Subject ['Right of the Subject']; Right of the Subject ['Right of the Subject'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- n for an Account of 60,000l. charged for Secret . scandalously misapplied: and that the keeper of the said prison, and his dependants, and " agents, instead of distributing the said charities to the said poor debtors, have most unjustifiably possessed themselves thereof, and " wickedly perverted the same to their own " uses, to the great fraud and oppression of the said poor prisoners in general, and to the (t starving many, whp have perished in the said u prison, for want thereof. 4‘ Resblved, That it is the opinion of this Com-€t mittee. That Mr. John Darby, keeper of the u said prison of the Marshalsea, having, contrary u to, and in defiance of, the law, let to farm his u said gaol, and office, and the profits thereof, unto the said William Acton, and having t(grossly neglected his duty, in not preventing, or " remedying, the said inhumanities, cruelties, <* frauds, and abuses, is guilty of a high misde-<* meanour in his office, and a notorious breach of his trust, in contempt of the law, and to ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Particular Man ['particular man'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- only a grant of a new aid, but a grant made in such an irregular manner, without being demanded by tiie crown, that it cannot but give os some reason to think, that however it may be wanted by the ministers, it may possibly not . be desired by his Majesty. 4. " Because the literal interpretation of part of tiie act for settling the Civil List Reve^-Hues on his Majesty, which was contended for, iutorder' to justify that part of this clause to which we object, seems to us liable to consequences very dangerous to the properties of all the subjects, by putting it into the power of those who have the management of the public money, to give the crown a title to the arrears of the Civil List Funds (though perhaps left on purpose in the hands of the receivers) and to a parliamentary supply for those very arrears too. 5. " Because the argument which was used for passing the clause, from the smallness of the sum, seems to us a much stronger reason why it should not be asked, than why if should be granted. 6. " Because, we observe, that whenever a supply for the Civil-List has been asked in parliament, it has caused great uneasiness in the nation, though demanded from the crown itself, and upon pretences, in our opinion, more justi- fiable, and at times less unseasonable than this, when, notwithstanding our most prevailing ms-t thods of negociation, the fate of Europe, as far as we are enabled to judge, is still' in suspence, and we labour under difficulties that unavoidably attend such a doubtful and undetermined situation of our affairs abroad; when the complaints of the people at home are general and loud, and, as we fear, too well founded oh account of their poverty, and other calamities with which they have been long afflicted; and when, for that reason, it appears to us to be not only a proper clemency, but troe policy too, to avoid giving them the least ground to apprehend that' the parliament, belaying unnecessary burthens upon them, may itself become one of their grievances. 7. " Because this attempt, when we consider it in all its circumstances, as far as appears to us, is without example, and we dread lest if should be made one, and laid held of as a precedent hereafter; if ever the nation should have the misfortune to see a lavish, weak and rapacious ministry, armed with great power, desirous to raise such extraordinary supplies, more in reality to support their own inconsiderate and pernicious schemes, than the honour and dignity of the Crown.---- Scarf- dale, Plymouth, Beaufort, Coventry, Oxford and Mortimer, Strafford, Mont-joy, Boyle, Northampton, Willoughby de Broke, Warrington, Litchfield; Gower, Bathurst." The King's Speech at the Close of the Semon.l May 14. The King came to. the House ot. Lords with the usual state, and the Commons attending, his Majesty gave the royal assent ta several public and private Bills, and then made* a Speech to both Houses, as follows: " My Lords and Gentlemen, " The season of the year, and the dispatch you have given to the public business, make i* proper for me to put an end to this session of parliament; which I cannot do without expressing my satisfaction at the just regard yon have shewn upon all all occasions, to my honours and to the true interest of my people. " The prudence and temper, with which you have proceeded at this critical conjuncture, have been very acceptable to me, and cannot fail of meeting with general approbation:your several determinations, upon matters of Hie greatest nicety and importance, have shewn you not insensible of the difficulties we labour under, without suffering yourselves to be transported, and carried into any unreasonable warmths and animosities. You have confident} the losses of our merchants, with a becoming compassion and concern: and received their complaints in such a manner, as will best conduce to the obtaining them justice and satisfao* tion; and you may be assured, no endeavour* shall be wanting, on my part, to answer the-expectations and wishes of my people. "Gentlemen of the House of Commons, u The^ Supplies which you have granted im£ 961} PARL. HIST., 2 George It. 1729 — Principal Occurrences during she Recess. [768 and so effectually raised, in & manner the least burthen some to my subjects, are a new proof of your zeal, affection, and readiness to support me in the defence and protection of the rights and.privileges of tuy kingdom. It is a great satisfaction to me to observe, that you have been thus able to supply the necessary charges and expences that have been unavoidably brought and continued upon us, and at the same time to make a farther progress in lessening and reducing the National Debt. * My Lords and Gentlemen, " I have already acquainted you, that it being necessary for me to visit my German dominions this year, I have determined to make the Queen regent here, during my absence; and 1 must, in a particular manner, recommend k to you all, to make her administration as easy as possible, by preserving the peace and geiet of the kingdom, in ydur several stations and countries; and by endeavouring to discountenance and restrain the vile and seditious practices of raising unjust clamours, and oreating discontents in the minds of ray people/ ' Then the Lord Chancellor prorogued- the parliament to the 22nd of July. It was afterwards prorogued to the 13th of January. Pri-ncifai. Occurrences during the Recess.] All this time there wa9 a total suspence of all negotiations for peace, excepting those that were not ripe enough to be owned. The imperial first plenipotentiary still resided in France, in order to determine himself according to the answer that was to come from Spain vpon the duke de Bournonville’s arrival at the court of Madrid'; and cardinal Fleory laboured very hard to keep all parties iB good humour. The apparent causes which this year carried his Majesty to Germany, were to compromise some differences that had happened between the regency of Hanover and his Prussian majesty, about a breach of the cartel subsisting between those two powers, by the Hanoverians detaining some Prussian subalterns and soldiers, as they were passing through the territories of Hanover; hut this affair was made up, being referred to the duke of Saxe Gotha. Another incident at this time happened in Germany, which was very interesting to his Majesty. The duke of Mecklenberg had been deposed by the emperor and tba aulic council, from his duchy, for tyranny, cruelty, and other acts of contumacy, against his imperial majesty, and the administration of- that duchy was conferred upaa dake Christian Louis. The late king, it seems, together with the duke of Wol-fenbottel, had been intrusted with the execution of some imperial decrees against the duke of Mecklemberg, which had run them into expences, and' having obtained- a mortgage upon that duchy, they, refused to part with it, or with the chest o ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- most in defiance of him; and if this treatment of him should unhappily alienate his friendship from us, we think we should, as good Englishmen, have great reason to lament the loss of such au ancient, powerful and faithful ally. 8 " Because we apprehend that there is an ' artful omission, throughout the whole treaty, of any plain and express stipulation to secure td us our right to Gibraltar and Minorca; which, however willing we are to attribute it rather to the superior skill of the Spanish managers, .than to any want of zeal for their country in our own, is an error that we fear will leave our possession of those important places too liable to future oavils; and we think die Spaniards could not, with the least plausible pretence of reason, have refused to Ascertain our indubitable right to them, in as strong and explicit terms as we have declared ourselves guarantees of the right, possession, tranquillity and quiet of the Italian dominions allotted to Don Carlos and his successors, since we have bad the complaisance to admit the Spaniards to discuss their pretensions for the restitution of the ships * PAUL. HISTORY, 3 Geoigb IL 1730. — Debate the lit] PARL. HISTORY* J Gsoroe taken in the year 1718, though their right to that compensation was as effectually secured to them, as it can be pretended ours is to Gibral-car and Minorca, by those general words that renew and confirm all former treaties. 9. " Because his Majesty himself, by his speech from the throne, seems not entirely free from apprehensions of new troubles being still likely to arise in Europe, even in resentment of the present engagements; and if he thought this peace had settled the public tranquillity upon a lasting foundation, we are confident his paternal goodness would have inclined him, by •'farther reduction of troOps, to have given more ease to his people, who have long groan-mi under the heavy burthen i of taxes, almost insupportable, and of a large standing army, and have had all their grievances increased by a. pernicious interruption of late of that flourishing commerce, without which they cati neither be happy at home nor respected abroad. 10. " Because it appears to ns, after the most mature consideration of all particulars, that we are much farther obliged than we were before, and than we think we ever ought to be, Jto meddle in disputes u*.out territories at a great distance frbm us, and in which our national interest seems no way concerned; and since one of the principal contracting parties in that alliance upon which this is built, is not only left out of it, but, as we think, there is reason to believe extremely disobliged by it; and since it seems impossible to make the introduction of Spanish troops into Tuscany and Parma, even by the most prevailing application we can use, consistent with the dignity and quiet of those princes whose, towns they are to garrison; we own ourselves, upon the whole, incapable of discerning either the equity or policy of this treaty, which we fear *ill not enable us either to recover what we have lost, or long to preserve quietly and undis-. turbed what we yet possess; and which, we fear, instead of extricating us out of those difficulties that we have of late been involred in, and which have been owing in a great measure, in our judgment, to the incapacity of those ministers, by whose counsels we have been entangled in a labyrinth of unnecessary, if not prejudicial' treaties and engagements, will probably be the melancholy occasion of fresh disturbances, and bring upon us, already too much impoverished, the misery and confusion of a war, which if once kindled, we are convinced, it will be as difficult to'know the end, as to determine the success of such a fatal event. — (Signed) Scarsdale, Beaufort, Gower, Bedford, Thanet, Anglesea, Coventry, Huntingdon, Bruce, Boyle, Bathurst, Foley, Bridgewater, Plymouth, Strafford, Northampton, Abingdon, 'Warrington, Montioy, Aylesford, Middleton, Bristol, Willoughby de Broke, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- er, who spoke last, had departed from the question before them; had opened a charge against France, and had brought in the old ^Mississippi affair, in debating a particular Bill on an argument about lending money :. That he thought it a weak reasoning, that we should not do ourselves justice in this point, because that our neighbours had treated usjll in another; and because that the French had not yielded us all we could wish for, that therefore the Parliament should not in this case do all that they ought. He added, Why was not this matter laid open in the Committee on the State of the Nation, but that this was an objection indeed to the French, lik&all other complaints against France; it was raised on occasion of proper precautions to prevent a war with the emperor: That he was fully convinced, this Bill was a matter of great importance and necessity: That he had been so tender in this argument, that he bad not even said whal-he was authorized to say; he had meant no aspersions or reflections 6n any gentlemen; he was willing that this and all other debates should be managed with decency and candour: Blit since that these things bad thus passed, he was thereby provoked to declare, what he knew, what he had the King’s leave to declare, and what would effectually silence the debate; that he was very much inclined to say it, he trould say it, if the gentlemen required it; [Here several members called out for this affair] he would say it be* fore be sat down:This Bill was not drawn or promoted from any other view than its greet necessity, its being now absolutely expedient to the peace of Europe, and the general repose of mankind; for he could say it, he had the King’s leave to declare it; viz. That there was at this time a subscription transacted for the service of the emperor, and money was raising for his use, no less than the sum of 400,000l. Goo. Ie 7S3] PARL. HIST. 3 George II. 17JO. He added, That this Bill could not possibly be a restraint upon trade, or a grievance to the merchants in any one lawful point of commerce:That the view of this Bill having been to prohibit such loans and assistance to the emperor, who could not march his armies, or cloath his troops without supplies of money, it was not just or reasonable, he should have assistance from us; from ‘that nation against which he was forming a war, and projecting future disturbances; could the emperor maintain the soldiers be had in his troops, and the numerous forces he quartered upon his own people; or could he bring them into the held, without treasure to pay the expence; and now when, by treaties with Spain, that prince was deprived of those subsidies and that assistance, which once made him dangerous to us; when thus be is happily cut off from all communications with those countries, from whence his treasure used to flow, shall the people of England assist him themselves with supplies ? Shall they arm an enemy with strength, which his best ally denies? .And the British merchants lend their money to a prince against the British nation ? If this should be done in the time of hostilities, and after the commencement of a war, it would be high treason by law; for to aid, abet, or assist a foreign power at war with the King, is expressly declared in the statute of high treason:And shall the merchants be allowed to enable a prince to become our enemy, whom it is even high treason to aid when an enemy ? shall it be allowed with impunity to aid the emperor to march his troops, and yet open rebellion to assist the emperor whilst those troops were marching ? Must the quiet of the whole world be a victim to the avarice of men, who would make an inglorious advantage of their money ? Must men be indulged in those dealings which bear such analogy even to high treason, only for the sake of sell-interest ? 'He added, It was compassion and humanity to ignorant-unwary men, which led him to bring in this Bill; for in case of a war with the emperor, merchants.might transact with his im ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Private Persons ['private persons']; Distemper (grievance metaphor) ['distempers']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- for that the end of it was to prevent a war with that prince, and to name him in this case distinct from all others would amount to u full declaration of war; besides, one prince might borrow money for another, and elude the import of the law: That at to the king of Portugal, or any other prince in alliance with the crown of Great Britain, his Majesty would readily grant his allowance for loans to so good an ally: That however this law would not have an effect, but in case of apparent necessity; if the emperor gave his Majesty reason to oppose his intentions, it might produce a future proclamation, yet this was eventual, it might be, or it might not be: And if it ever should happen, no subjects-of Britain, no merchants abroad could offend through ignorance of tsuch a proclamation; for the Bill was drawn with a blank, to be filled with a proper limitation of time, before the law should take place, or the prohibition hold good; and the limitation might be very large and extensive, that merchants abroad might be duly informed of the terms which the law had enjoined; He said. That it was the proper policy of nations, the reasonable authority vested in the councils of a country, to use such precautions and lay such prohibitions, on an appearance of danger, although not discerned by the people: That the reason of this was, because they had early and secret intelligence not proper for the public view when immediately received, yet highly expedient to be observed:That as to the indulgence allowed" to those persons who traded in the funds abroad, or trusted their money in foreign companies, it was reasonable and proper, because many persons thought those a gOQd security for their fortunes: Thst many of the British merchants in other countries had no better employment for cash in "their hands; and it would occasion great confusion to include those cases in this prohibition, neither indeed did they any ways relate to this case; for though money might be lent to the emperor by private persons, he would never have aids from the public companies abroad. He owned, that he was not so conversant in the laws as some gentlemen were, who could justly support this Bill in its provision for a proper discovery of evidence by precedents; he was a-stranger to that; but he himself remembered the act to prevent the subjects of Great Britain from trading in the Ostend Company, and that there the same method Of discovery was provided; and should not the public detect such a criminal commerce with a powerful and national enemy, when they were allowed it aghinst a little interloping company ? It was far from setting up a court of inquisition, it was for from laying hardships or severities on any man; bat it was for the prevention of fraudulent dealings t PARL. HISTORY, 3 Gborue II. f7JO. — Foreign Power* [7S6 and concealed transactions; and it involved the party in no other penalty than one, which he could not incur but through conscious guilt, which he might easily avoid by purging himself of the crime; and that this penalty was still in the judgment of tlje House to be limited by their authority, having no other end than to be such a tax upon loans, as might make it unprofitable to advance them for the highest premiums or interest. He also observed, That the proclamation provided in the Bill, was the same ps by law had been usual in the case of quarantine in the apprehensions of a pestilence, and as a prevention of any contagious, distempers; he thought it a reasonable remedy on all such appearances of dauger; it would not be /made use of unless such grievances happened; and if they did happen, he thought they deserved a redress: lie therefore insisted on committing this Bill, as highly expedient and necessary. Mr. Wortley Montague said. That he had a point of Order to debate:that that honourable member had brought in the name of the jKing to influence (heir considerations contrary to a standing rule of the House: and that it was never allowed that the name of the King should ever be used upon any occasion to awe .their proceedings, or to overbear their debates: .that if that honourable member had been properly careful of his Majesty's honour, he would not have mentioned his name at that rate; he would have informed them of the evidence they had, and regularly brought it before them in the present inquiry: that whatever that evidence might be, he supposed it must come .from foreign ministers, and he thought the House ought to have it opened in a proper parliamentary'way. He added, that his opinion was against the Bill, for he thought it restrained -our commerce, and we might as well prohibit all commerce. Sir' Robert Walpole replied, That the manner of his declaration had been very much mis-. taken, in asserting that what he had said was . unparliamentary, for he well knew and duly .obUrved the Orders of the House: that he had .mot brought in the name of the King to influence gentlemen, or to overbear the debates: that he had mentioned the positive assurances which were received, not as a Message from . the King, but by his Majesty's leave; not by . his command, but only by his permission; that the station he was in obliged him to ask that permission, because that by his oath he was obliged to keep the King's counsel secret, and therefore be asked this allowance from his Majesty yesterday morning, apprehending the debate of this-day would require him to mention it, and he had offered it to prove the importance of the Bill now before them. . Mr. Gould, said. He was a merchant himself: that he could make it appear to t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ed and always paid for by the people; it is now no longer paid for by the people, and so far from being declined, that it has been courted and sought after at great expence. How far these considerations, together with that of the vast increase of the Civil List revenue, and of the debts contracted bn it in the former reigns, deserve to enforce the reasons for exacting some new and stronger engagements, from the members of the House of Commons to those whom they are chosen to represent, is, we think, sufficiently obvious. 8. u Although it must be allowed, that the multiplying of oaths, without great and evident reasons, ought to be avoided, yet an oath being the most solemn engagement which men can be laid under, we judge it, on that very account, the more proper to he imposed upon this important occasion; nor will the probability of its being broke through, by the iniquity of mankind, be an argument of greater force against this hill, than against any other law made for preventing any other crime whatsoever. — — (Signed) Huntingdon, Bruce, Plymouth, Montjoy, Northampton, Strafford, Hereford, Craven, Oxford and Mortimer, Ker, Sunderland, Berkshire, Aylesford, Litchfield, Maynard, Foley, Coventry, Masham, Bristol, Bathurst, Beaufort, Warrington, Gower, Abingdon, Boyle, Thanet." The Pension Bill rejected by the ] Then the question was pur, whether the said Bill shall be rejected I It was resolved in the affirmative. Protest thereon.'] u Dissentient* *, 1. "Because the evident intention of this Bill, was only to make a further advance towards gaining that good end, which the legislature hitherto has, we fear, too weakly endeavoured to compass, the prevention of corruption; which, it must be owned, is an evil of so mischievous a nature, s6 apt to spread and grow epidemical, that a wise and virtuous people will apply the most timely and effectual remedies that can be devised for the cure of it, since a nation once infected roust soon get the better of so contagious a distemper, or it will •oon get the better of the nation. f. " Because we can hardly frame in our minds a more reasonable method, than the sanction of such an oath of purgation as was to have been taken by all the members of the House of Commons, if this bill had passed into a law, to preserve that part of the legislature pure and free from that kind of bribery, which! seems, from the nature of it, to be the most pernicious, a secret unavowed pension; or what (however different in name) would, wo fear, be too much the same in effect, an office in trust, or a clandestine gratuity. 3. " Because the act of Parliament which passed last year, though it contains some excellent provisions against bribery and corruption, and ought, in our opinion, ever to be held sacred, inviolable, and a fundamental part of our yet free constitution, wanted still something, as we judge, to make it more complete, for establishing gn oath for the elected as well as the electors; which being done by this bill, we cannot but look upon it to have been a seasonable and necessary addition to those lawa already enacted for the same purpose, in order to guard us more strongly against the powerful and malignant influence of wicked, aspiring, ' and despotic ministers, who can invent no artifices so likely to subvert the liberties of the people, as by corrupting those who are chosen to defend them. 4. " Because, we apprehend, the Honse of Commons may think themselves unkindly treated by us, for rejecting a bill sent from them of great consequence, by which they designed only to secure their own honour and the nation’s liberties, and that concerned only their own members, without allowing it even the osuaP forms of commitment; and the rest of our fellow subjects will, we fear, hardly be charitable enough to think that one House of Parliament could be perfectly unbiassed, when it refused so proper an expedient to make, in a great measure, the other so. — — Signed} Plymouth, Beaufort, Montjoy, Warrington, Ber ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nst Mr. Woodham; and the matter being brought before the court, the> court declared, that Mr. Woodham, in committing the said Heybord and Allen (prisoners in the custody of the Marshal) to the coqpty gaol, upon any pretence whatsoever (notwithstanding the county gaol was within the rules of the prison of the King’js Bench) was guilty of a, rescue:after which, the Court interposed, and prevailed with the said Mullens (the Marshal) to make up the matter, on Mr. Woodham’s paying 31 costs, for committing two prisoners, who had brokp the peace, and could not’ find security. The high Rent, paid by the Marshal, occasions exorbitant fees, extortions, and many other inconveniencies. The Marshal hath one shilling per night, for every prisoner, who lies in a spunging-house; which may be a great inducement to him to keep prisoners from coming into the prison. The Prison Fees are exorbitant; and the Judges having met together, and proceeding to take the same iuto their consideration, in order to their making a reduction thereof, pursuant* to the late act, a doubt arose, whether they could, o.r ought, to reduce the saidfees, because of the property of the mortgagees:and this matter remains for the further consideration of parliament. That no Security being given for safe custody of the prisoners, and, the artful confusion of tire title between the trustees for Lenthall, and the mortgagees, render the custody of the said prison unsafe, and precarious. • It appeared to the Committee, that, notwithstanding the inconveniency, arising from the claim of the mortgagees, and the high rent . paid by the Marshal, yet this prison of the King’s Bench is much better regulated than any other prison, the Committee hath enquired into; which they cannot but ascribe to the care of the Lord Chief Justice Raymond, who, not accepting of any presents, or fees, from the Marsha) of the said prison, hath kept the said Marshal strictly to the performance of his duty; and his lordship hath beard, and redressed, the complaints of the prisoners. It appeared to the Committee) that there are now in being some Books and Lists of 811] PARL. HISTORY, 3 George II. 1730. — Report on the Ibatc [612 Charities, belonging to this prison; and also that there have been other books, relating to the said Charities, which books are not now forth-coming. There is a Charity collected from the several counties, and another, of monies collected in the courts of Westminster-hall, called High Bar-money. In the collecting the first of the said Charities there is some difficulty, full powers not being given for the raising thereof; and it bath been represented to the Committee, .that the latter (though Charity Money) doth belong to the Lord Chief Justice, and that he hath a right to dispose of the same, as he thinks fit. [K.] And it appeared to the Committee, that out of the small charity, which yet remains unim-bezzled, an attempt was lately made to deduct monies, to repair the Wards for receiving the furniture, given to the sick rooms by the present Lord Chief Justice Raymond; and that these poor creatures, besides their great fees, pay also for repairing rooms in the gaol, and they were induced to sign a common seal for this purpose: [L.] That the poor Prisoners suffer greatly, by the applying of the Charity Money to repairs, or to any Other uses, than dividing it amongst them, and by their not being admitted to the common side, and the sharing the charities: That the prosecuting Justices of the Peace, for acting in cases of breaches of the peace, committed by prisoners of the King’s Bench prison, or within the rules thereof, greatly tend-to the encouraging of disorderly, riotous, and dangerous, practices there. By inspecting the Lists of Prisoners for Debt, transmitted from the various Gaols of this kingdom, and the Gazettes, and other authorities, the Committee find, that near 6,000 persons havfe been discharged out of the said Gaols by virtue of the act, passed in the last session ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ogued, Townshend resigned. Lord Harrington was appointed Secretary of State, Henry Pelham Secretary at War, and the Privy Seal was given to the earl of Wilmington, on whose assistance opposition had relied with the most perfect security. In a few months after, he was created lord president of the council, which high office he held till the removal of sir Robert Walpole. The charge of foreign affairs now ostensibly devolved on the duke of Newcastle and lord Harrington, whose characters Term a remarkable contrast, (hough they acted together with the utmost cordiality." Coxe’s Walpole. 31] PARL. HIST. 4 George U. IT SI, — The Lot#* Address xf Thanh. [839 * " Mj Lords and Gentlemen; - " You cannot but be sensible, that the measures formerly taken, and the conclusion of the Treaty of Seville, have prevented and disappointed the dangerous consequences that were so justly apprehended' from the Treaty of Vienna; and we do not only see that union dissolved, which had alarmed -all Europe, but the allies of the Treaty of Hanover strengthened by the additional power of the crown of Spain. * This situation of affairs gave us a reasonable prospect of a general pacification, and lost hopes of seeing the conditions of the Treaty of Seville complied with, without the necessity of coming to extremities; and no /endeavours have been wanting, conformable to my engagements with my allies, to obtain .that happy end. But this desirable event having been hitherto delayed, the Treaty of Seville fays an indispensible obligation upon all the contracting parties to prepare for the execution of it; and we must be in readiness to perform our part, and, by continuing to pursue the proper measures, convince our allies, that we will faithfully fulfil our engagements, and, as far as .shall depend upon us, procure the satisfaction due to them, either by such means as shall be most eligible, or by such as shall be found absolutely necessary. - " The preseot critical conjuncture seems in ' a very particular manner to deserve your attention; and you need not be told, with what impatience the resolutions of this parliament are •every where waited for and expected. ' " I am incapable of attempting to influence your proceedings by groundless fears and apprehensions, and as incapable of amusing you with vain hopes and expectations; but as the transactions, now depending in the several courts of Europe, are upon the point of being determined, the great event of peace or war may be very much affected by your first resolutions. The continuance of that zeal and vigour, which you have hitherto shewn, in support of me and my engagements* must, at this time, be of the greatest weight and importance, both with regard to my allies, who cannot think their interest and the common cause neglected, before the conditions of their treaties -are accomplished; and with regard to those, who may be disposed, before the season of action is come, to prevent, by an accommodation, the fatal consequences of a general rupture, which they will have little reason to apprehend, if they find the allies of Seville not prepared to do themselves justice. " The plan of operations for the execution /of the Treaty of Seville by force, in case we shall be driven to that necessity, is now under consideration; and until the proportions of the confederate forces, and the proper dispositions for employing them, shall be finally adjusted and agreed upon, it will not be easy to determine how far the expences, necessary for the service of the ensuing year, may, or may not, exceed the provisions made for the service of the last year. . " In the mean time, I am persuaded, you will go on to give all possible dispatch to the public business; and if it shall be necessary, I shall not fail to ask the farther advice and assistance of my parliament, according to tbq circumstances of public affairs, and as soon as any proper occasion shall require it. " Gentlemen of the House of Commons; " I will order the proper Estimates ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- red, That all the quarrel we had with the Emperor was upon account of the interest and trade of England, and not at all on account of any of his Majesty's foreign dominions; so that if they should be involved in a war, it would be so far from involving Great Britain in any war-upon account of therh, that the case would be di-erectly the contrary; they would be involved in a war for defence of the trade and commerce (Of Great Britain: that since we had a quarrel with the Emperor, who was a very powerful prince upon the continent, we had no way of revenging this quarrel, but by engaging as many princes upon the continent as we could on pur side; and that therefore it^was necessary to continue those subsidies till we could bring the Emperor to our term6. Then the question being put, the Committee agreed to the continuing of this Subsidy, and Tesolved, That the sum of 25,000l. be granted to his Majesty, for one year’s Subsidy to the duke of Brunswick Lunenburgh Wolfenbuttel. Petitions against the Proceedings at Law being in Latin.]* Feb. 11. Two Petitions were presented to the Commons, from the quarter-sessions of the peace held for the East and North Ridings of Yorkshire, complaining, , (That the obliging Grand-Jury-Men, at the sessions of the peace, to make their presentments in a language, which few of them understood; and the suffering in any of the Proceedings of the Courts of Justice, or in any of the transactions of the Law, whereby the person or property of the Subject may be affected, the use of a Language not intelligible and of a character not legible, but by the Learned in the Law, were great occasions of the delay of Justice, and gave room to most dangerous Frauds: That Special Pleadings, by their intricacy aid ddatoriaessy rendered the prosecu- tion of the Rights of the Subject difficult and expensive: That the Recovery of small Debts, as the law then stood, was impracticable, and the number of Attoi nies excessive; and praying the House to take these Grievances into consideration, and to give such remedy as to the House shall seem meet." These Petitions were ordered to be referred to a Committee. The Pension Bill passes the Commons.] Feb, 17. The Pension Bill was read the third time and .passed; and Mr, Sandys was ordered to carry it to the Lords. * Debate in the Lords on the Bill against Pensioners sitting in the House of Commont.] Feb. 20. A Bill from the Commons 1 For * making more effectual the* Laws in being for * disabling Persons from being chosen Alem-‘ bers of, or sitting or voting in the House of * Commons, who have any Pension during ‘ pleasure, or for any number of years, or any ‘ offices holden in trust for them, by obliging * persons hereafter to be chosen to serve for * the Commons in parliament to take the oath ‘ therein mentioned/ was read the first time, and ordered to be read a second time on the 2nd of March. * The following is a copy of the said Bill: " May it please youc most Excellent Majesty, " That it may be enacted, and be it enacted by the King's most excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and conseut of the Lords spiritual and temporal, and Commons in this present parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, That from and after the '24th day of June, 1731, no person who shall he elected a member to serve in the House of Commons, shall vote or sit in the said House, during any debate there, after their Speaker is chosen, until such member shall from time to time, and in manner following, first take the oath hereinafter mentioned, and subscribe the same in a* parchment roll, to be provided by the clerk of the House of Commons for that purpose, viz. " I A. B. do solemnly and sincerely swear, * that I have not directly or indirectly, any * pension during pleasure, or for any number ‘ of years, from the crown, nor any office in ‘ part, or in the whole, from the crown, held * for me, or for my benefit, by any person what-‘ soever: And I do solemnly and sincerely * promi ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e of our Allies $ and yet notwithstanding thereof we not only negotiated, but concluded a Treaty with the Emperor without communicating the same to them; what reason the French may have for such an accusation I cannot at present properly Speak to; Prussia, it is true, had before set us an example, and had drawn off from that Treaty long before we had; but France "and Hol-feuid had adhered firmly to it to the very last. -*According to the view I have of our late Negotiations, I cannot say, that either the honour or the interest of the nation has been mach considered; it is true; Don Carlos may be now established in the Succession to the Duchy of Tuscany, and in the possession of the Dhichies of Parma and Placentia; the Spanish troops may be introduced into Italy and I wish their introduction do not prove to be the origin of new troubles; but in the^e things we have ho particular interest. I cannot say that much regard has been had to the particular interest of this nation in our conduct at home, oar debts have been increased, at least not diminished; and at the same time luxury has been so much encouraged, that many have run Out a great part of their fortunes, and are thereby obliged to depend upon the court; insomuch that I must say, happy it is fer the nation, that the King is so good and so just, as not to have any designs against‘our liberties: cur Trade is decaying every day, and Public Credit is like to be entirely distroyed by the many public frauds that are committed; for credit depends upon that faith and confidence which one man puts in another, for the preservation of that which is committed to his care; but by these •Public Funds all mutual faith and confidence will be taken away; no man will think his money safe but when it is locked up in his own coffers; he will not for the future trust the management or keeping thereof to any one man, ot to any Set of men. However, I hope, Sir, that all our affairs abroad are now set to righes, enid that our domestic Grievances are in a fair way of being redressed; but if they are so, I knust say, it is something like a pilot, who, though he has a clear, a safe, and a streight passage forgoing into port, yet takes it in his bead to carry the ship a great way about, Ihfough sandsj rocks and shallows, and thereby {574 loses a great many of the seamen, distroys a great deal of the tackle and rigging, and puts the owners to a vast expence; however, at last by chance he hits the port, and then triumphs in his good conduct." Mr. Pulteney having done speaking, Mr. Danvers said, That when he returned to the country, he should be glad to have some* thing to tell his country neighbours- that would please them; ‘they did not understand Treaties, nor did they trouble their heads much about distant prospects of wealth and happiness, but he wished be could tell them, that part of our Debts were paid off, or that some of our taxes were abolished, or the Standing Army disbanded. These were effects they would immediately feel, but he was afraid they would be of opinion, that a peace attended with a continuance of all the Taxes, and a keeping on foot the standing-army, did not deserve any Thanks from the nation. Sir William Wyndham spoke next; Mr. Speaker, I cannot agree to the terms for addressing his Majesty, proposed by the noble member who spoke first, because though every thing may now be well settled upon a solid and lasting foundation, yet I cannot think that our conduct has in every respect been right; or that the interest of this nation has been, by his Majesty’s minis* ters, principally and steadily pursued. At one time we were frightened out of our wits with apprehensions that the Pretender was to be put upon us, and that without any reason for alDhatl have yet seen or heard upon the subject. Then Don Carlos was made such a giant of, that he, that infant, was to swallow up aad destroy alt the powers of Europe; and at that time wa sued to France for an alliance, and besought their assistance, by’ which we put it in their po ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Petition of Right MATCH TEXT: 'Petition of Right' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rally disaffected, the malecontents will gather confidence from their numbers; and our neighbours will, upon every occasion, be ready to invade us, 'when they are sure of meeting with a powerful support and assistance'from die people themselves. There is no one measure more apt to spread a general disaffection among the people than that of. keeping up a numerous standing army; this was one of the principal things that ruined the late king James, and alienated from him the people’s affections almost to a man:lie had to trust to even a more numerous army than that at present demanded; but what was the consequence ? That army was so far from securing him against the general discontent of the people, that they themselves* like honest men as they were, joined in the general defection, and contributed to the overthrow of the man who unjustly put his whole trust and confidence in them. I hope, Sir, that the English armies will always behave so; I hope they will always be so faithful to their country as to forsake the man wjio has a mind to enslave it; but this is not to he depended on; however, the example shews that any army breeds disaffection among the people, and that even an army cannot be much depended on by that King, who by putting his whole confidence in them, has incurred the displeasure of the peo-le. Therefore from the sincere affection I ave for the present establishment, 1 must be against continuing such a great number of regular forces in this kingdom. Mr. Horatio Walpole spoke next: Sir; — I am sorry to hear a parallel drawn by any member of this House, between the army kept up by the late king James, and the army intended to be kept up at present: king James’s army was Taised against law, was maintained against the consent of the people, and was employed in overturning the liberties of the people: the present question is about an army which is to be kept up, according to law, and by and with the consent and approbation of the people. If we look into the Petition of Right itself, what does it say ? why that an army raised or kept up, without consent of parliament, is contrary to the constitution; but it was never said, that an army kept up by consent of parliament is illegal, or any way contrary to our happy constitution; in this respect, therefore, no parallel can be drawn between the present army, which is to be kept * See vol. 5, p. 4Q5. up only by consent of the people, and maintained by them, and that army which was raised and maintained by king James himself, and was so far from being with the concurrence or consent of the people, that it yras to be employed against them; and I am persuaded, that no man here suspects that the present army is to be employed in any such manner. " 1 really believe, Sir, and I hope I am right, that there is but very little dissatisfaction in the nation, and that the Jacobite party is now become very inconsiderable; but still that party is not to be ridiculed and made a joke of: we are not so much to despise all attempts that may be made by them, as not to take any measures to provide ourselves against them; such a security is the best thing they can wish for; they would be glad to be despised in such a manner. Gentlemen may say what they will of the little consequence of any endeavour that have been, or may be used by them; but the late rebellion is a certain testimony that they are not to be too much despised. The fate of the kingdom was at that time brought even to the decision of a day, and if the rebels had been successful but at Preston, I do not know what might have been the consequences; I dread to think of them, but let them have been never so fatal, if the liberties of this nation had beeneverthrown by the success of those rebels, it would have been entirely owing to our having so. few regular forces on foot at that time. We have escaped that danger, but do not let us expose ourselves every day to such dangers for the future, which must be the necessary consequence of reducing any part ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tain lhay with reason and justice expect, ’ 1 had almost said demand, an exemption from every Unnecessary tax; and as none is more grievous at all times, so none seems to be more Vol. VIII. . I unnecessary at this time, than that which is occasioned by maintaining an extraordinary/ number of land forces. Such an exemption must be acceptable to his Majesty, who hath been most graciously pleased to open his session with declaring, That it is a pleasure to * him to give ease to his subjects, whenever the * welfare of the public will admit of it. ’ Sir, 'There can be no doubt, but the welfare of the public will now admit of reducing our expences on the head of the army. For we have the same royal assurance, That the general tranquillity of Europe is fully restored and established; that all the jarring and contending' powers are united, all the different views of interest and ambition reconciled, by his Majesty’* extensive influence, and consummate wisdom; that the wounds, which have been long bleeding, are entirely cured, by his healing hand; that peace and good harmony are returned together; that the duty and affection of his subjects, are all he desires for, his paternal love and concern for them; that his Government has no other security, but what is equally conducive to their happiness. This is the situation, which his Majesty promises himself will inspire us with such a seasonable zeal for the public good, as becomes a parliament sensible of the blessings they enjoy: And imagination cannot form a more pleasing idea, a more perfect plan of national prosperity, than what is here described. Nor could a gooff and gracious prince bring' better tidings, or communicate more welcome news from tb« throne, to a free people. Since then his Majesty 1ms so gloriously performed his part, let us not be wantin^on ours.' Let us take the earliest opportunity of convincing those we represent, that they are immediately to reap the fruit of his royal labours, and that all their grievances will be gradually redressed. Let us begin with r^Jucing the army, and making them sensible, that it is not intended they should any longer bear the burthen and inconveniencies of war, in a day of profound peace, and universal tranquillity. If we fail in this great point, the people, who did not resign their understandings, when they delegated their powfer to us, know they have a right to judge for themselves. They will- not be imposed upon hjappearances. They will he apt, notwithstanding all the fine words they hear, and all the fine speeches they read, to call this boasted successj these promised blessings, no more than a mere delusion, a golden dream, a chimeiical and visionary scene of happiness., . I wish therefore the honourable person, who moved this question, and the qtlier gentlemen who have been his coadjutors in the support, of it, had been a little more explicit. 1 wish instead of amusing the Committee with a detail of the.various reductions of out* forces from the treaty of* Rvswick down to this day, and assigning wrong causes and consequences' to each of those reductions; instead of assuring us, that, to their own private knowledge, 3 M 699] PARL. HISTORY, 5> CJeorgr II. 1?S2. — Debate m Common* £90 the officers of the army had frequently, on extraordinary occasions, assisted the civil magistrates in the execution of their duty; instead of reviving the old exploded argument of disaffection and Jacobitism j I wish, instead of rambling so widely from the point in debate, . they would have dealt more candidly with their audience, and told us plainly, whether they . .think a standing land-force will always be necessary to preserve and secure our present happy settlement; or whether they think the civil constitution of this kingdom so weakly, and so imperfectly framed, as to want something of the military power to strengthen and Sustain it; If they entertain the first of these notions, they must give me leave to take notice, that such an insinuation is unjust, and the argument o ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- whether under that of parliamentary or any other de- Mr. Pulteney being born to .^plentiful fortune, he early had a seat in the House of Commons, and began to distinguish himself 1 y'being a warm partizan against the ministry in the reign of queen Aune. He bad sagacity to detect their errors, and spirited eloquence sufficient to expose them. These services were well rewarded by king George 1, who, upon coming to the throne, raised Mr. Pulteney to the place of secretary at war, in the year 1714. Not long after he was raised to be cofferer to his Majesty’s houshold; hut the intimacy between this gentleman and sir Robert Walpole, who then acted as prime minister, was soon interrupted, by its being suspected that sir Robert was desirous of extending the limits »>f the prerogative, and promoting the interest of Hanover^ at thet xpence of his country. " Nor did Mr. Pulteney confine his displeasure at the minister to his person only, but to all his measures; so that some have been of opipion, that be opposed sir Robert often, when the measures he pursued were beneficial to the public. " This course of steady opposition at last became so obnoxious to the crown, that the King, on the 1st day of July, 1731, called for the council hook, and with his own band struck theuarae of William, Pulteney, esq. out of the list of privy counsellors: his Majesty further ordered him to be put out of all commissions of the. peace; the several lord lieutenants, from whom he had received deputations, were commanded to revoke them; and the lord chancellor and secretaries of state were directed to give the necessary orders for that purpose. " A proceeding so violent in the ministry only served to inflame this gentleman’s resentment, and increase his popularity. It was some time after this, that he made that celebrated speech, in which he compared the ministry to an empiric, and the constitution of England to his patients. " This pretender in physic, ’* said he, u being consulted, tells the distemper- * ed person, there were but two or three ways ' of treating his disease, and he was afraid that ‘ none off hem would succeed. A vomit might * throw him into convulsions that would occasion immediate death; a purge might bring * on a diarrhoea that would carry him off in a ‘ short time; and he had been already bled so ‘ much, and so often, that he could bear it no ‘ longer. The unfortunate patient, shocked at * this declrfration, replies, ‘ Sir, you have always * pretended to be a regular doctor, but I now ‘ fiud you are an arrant quack; I had an excel- * lent constitution when 1 first fell into your * hands, but you have quite destroyed it; and 905] PARL. HISTORY, 5 George II. 1732. — -on the Number of the Force*. [906 . *ignatk>n y a standing army is still a standing army, whatever name it be called by; they are a body of men distinct from the body of the people: they are governed by different laws: blind obedience, and an entire submission to the orders of their commanding officer is their * now I find I have no other chance for saving i my life, but by calling for the help of some re-‘gular physician. ’ . " in the year 1741, when sir Robert found his place of prime minister no longer tenable, he wisely resigned all his employments, and was created earl of Orford. llis opposers, among whom Mr. Pulteney had long been foremost, were assured of being provided for; and, among several other promotions, Mr. Polteney was sworn of the privy council, and soon afterwards breated earl of Bath. He had long lived in the very focus of popular observation, and was respected as the chief bulwark against the encroachments of the crown. But, from the moment he accepted a title, all his favour with1 ' the people was at an end; and the rest of his life was spent in contemning that applause .which he could no longer secure." — -Biographi-- cal Dictionary. * Mr. Pulteney was the head of the opposition in the House of Commons. He was a professed whig, and as such he oppos ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'Grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tunity to tpeak to it. I hope therefore, Sir, that the House will now indulge me with a little time to give my sentiments even as to this second Resolution^ Sir, it is highly necessary for the good and welfare of this nation, that every farthing of the charge which the people are put to should be publicly known, and fully considered by thi* House; the nation ought not to be cheated, and made to believe, that the maintaining of this 18,000 men cost them only 653,000l. when in reality it costs them a great deal more. Besides the money that is raised among the people, and paid into the bands of the government, for maintaining this Army, there is not an innkeeper, an ale-house, or a brandy-shop in the nation, but what pays a very great additional tax, by way of Quarters for the officers and soldiers. But there is still, Sir, a much greater 'evil arises from this hidden way of raising money upon the people. It is. Sir, an arbitrary ao<} an unequal way of raising money, and consequently affords to those who have the management of the Army, an opportunity of oppressing some people, or some parts of the nation. If any country, if any borough in this kingdom disobliges those in power, by sending representatives to this House, who do'not vote as the ministers would have them, it is in the power oiT the government, even without any pretence for so doing, to send a great number of the regular forces to be quartered upon that county, or that borough; by which meftns a much greater sum is raised upon the people of that county or borough, than is proportionally raised in any other part of the nation; nay. even if any private inn-keeper, tor ale-house man in any county or borough shall give a wrong vote at the election of members of parliament, it is in the power of the government, by means of the justices and the constables who are named by them, to oppress that man, by quartering more soldiers upon him, than are in proportion quartered upon any one of his ne ighbours. These are Grievances which the nation justly complain of, and we ought to consider how they are to be redressed. Sir William Strickland replied, Sir; The honourable gentleman, who spoke last, seems, by what he has said, to bring a charge against me, or at least against those who have been in the office which I have tjie honour to be in at present. For my own part. Sir I can safely declare, that ever since I came into that office, /there has been no favour shewn 3N W5J PARL. HISTORY, 5 George II. 1732.^Ikbute dn the hdtid Forets: to'ariy ode part of the country, nor to any one man m the nation; we have never So much las thought of having a regard to any thirtg, Hut to that of <5anfonitfg'arid 'quartering the troops into such'places, as were most easy for the country and most convenient for thenr; unless when' the safety and security of the nation in .general required the marching of a number of then} into any particular country. This, Sir, 'jbas been the /method ever since I came into the office.: It shall be the method as long as I [continue in it; and I'firmly believe, that the pame method was always observed by my predecessors^ office. Mr. Edmund Waller said, . t Sir; I rlo not know what method has been .Observed in cantoning and quartering the .Troops, but I know that the country complains heavily of the oppressions they lie under upon [that account; it ip but a little time ago since some of my own tenants came and told me, that they should be ruined by the dragoons that were quartered upon them; they had hot, they paid, a lock of hay but what they were obliged .to give to the soldiers; so that all their own cattle were in danger of being starved. For, Sir, in all countries were the soldiers come, they and their horses must be first served, and with - the best of every thing too; and what is ptijl worse, the poor people are ofteh obliged to. •erve them at their own prices. Mr. Henry Pelham answered Mr. Waller: Sir; As 1 fiad the honour to serve for. some time in that office, and particularly at-the time mentioned by the honourable gentleman who tpoke last, I thiq ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- was made, not so much on accountnf any abuses that have been lately committed, as to prevent any such in time to come, which ought to be erery gentleman’s care, and shall be mine, in particular, as long as I have the honour to be in the place where I am. t Mr. Sandys spoke nextt Sir, I am persuaded, that it has always been your particular care, that no imposition should be made upon any of the subjects, who have happened to have any business before this House; and 1 believe no gentleman thinks that we have any occasion for such a committee, as hath been proposed, on account of any late ex-. aptious or exorbitant fees; but now that an inquiry into the fees taken by our own servants has been proposed, I am afraid it may be some imputation upon us, not to agree to the motion. Considering how many years ago it is, since the fees to be taken by the servants 6(this House have been settled, I do not doubt but that some of them mriy now be found to be too- small; and if this affair be referred to a committee, I think they ought to increase those 9fl*3 PAJ&fc. HIST. $ Hi 123to-rl>rfa*n On. IT: JSwofc'i fclkiqm, [90*. wfiioh they judge to be too small; ns well as tp diminish those which they' may think extra-vacant. Mr., Walter Plumer said, Sir, I took upon this motion to be a very proper one at present, and ! hope the house will agree to it: because I think* Sir, we ought to search whether or no there be a beam in qut own eye in order to pull it out, before we begin to pull out the mote that in in another’s, (presume the honourable gentleman, who made this motion, made it only as a prelude to some- thing of more consequence; I hope, after we have examined into, and settled the fees to be taken by our own clerks and servants, we shall next proceed to examine into, and settle the fees to be taken by the officers, clerks and servants of all our courts of law. As to. the fees, of this House, I do not know what may be the case, but I am sure that the other is a very great grievance, and loudly complained of by the whole nation. We have had printed lists . of all those fees laid before us: as yet we have gone no farther but only to receive them; but iffiose who brought them in have gone a little farther; they think they may now, by authority of parliament, exact all the fees, at least, that gre mentioned in those lists, and from thence tjmy have taken occasion, even to encrease several of their fees much beyond what they had formerly any authority for; so that unless we proceed farther, and make some proper regulations as to all those lists of fees that have been laid before us, we have by calling for them, done rather an injury than a service to ant copntvy. I shall therefore be for agreeing to the motion now made, on purpose that we may, with decency, proceed to the inquiring into and settling the fees, that are to be taken in aU the courts of law, and other offices in the Station. Mr. Winningtonstood up, and said, • Sir; According to the order of this House, a list of the Fees usually taken by every clerk %nd servant belonging thereto, has been brought in, and has been, 1 believe, perused by most members of the House. I do not hear that any objection is made to any of them, or tbsat it is pretended that more has been at any time taken; 1 therefore do not see what use there is for a Committee in this affair; 1 believe if we order them to be printed, and copies to be fixed up in the public offices belonging to the House, it will be sufficient for preventing any exorbitant demands in time to come, and will be as effectual as any thing that can he done by a Committee. I suppose the gentlemen bave some farther design in this matter; .but if they have, 1 think they may proceed upon it, without giving the House any needless trouble to the Committee now moved for. Mr. Pulteney answered, Sir; I was not at all in the secret as to this motion; 1 did not know any thing of what farther design there may be, so that I am sure 1 cannot in this affair ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- of that sort of silk. He has likewise tried the Taw silk brought from China, and he finds that it would do as well as the Italian, but then the company keeps it at so high a price, that it will not answer; what maybe the reason of the company's keeping that silk so dear, I know not; I can find no other reason for it, but only the great profits that company are resolved to make of every thing which they have an exclusive privilege for dealing in. I am sure they purchase it in the country at a very cheap rate, and the danger or expence of bringing it home cannot be so great, but that they may sell it at a more reasonable price. The petitioner has likewise made some experiments of the raw silk that has been produced from Caroling, which has answered extremely well; and if there were enough of it, we should not perhaps be obliged to lay out so much of the nation’s money on the purchase of Italian raw silk, nor should we have occasion to trouble ourselves much- about the prohibiting of the exportation of their raw silk; but as yet there is but very little silk produced from •Carolina, so that the petitioner could not make any advantage thereby, I do not know what this House may judge to be a proper recora-pence to the petitioner, for the hazard and expence he has been at; but whatever resolutions may be made in this affair, all possible care ought to be taken for preventing the invention’s being carried out of this country. If we can keep our neighbours from stealing it from us, it will be a great encouragement- to several branches of our silk manufacture trade, we shall have the henefit at least of supplying most of them with that sort of thrown silk called organzine. Mr. Oglethorp stood up again, and said. Sir:The act for confining the king’s patents to the term of 14 years, was made in the reign of king James I. The bubbles and monopolies which were erected, and the many enormities which were committed about that time and for some years before, had become a public grievance, 'and was loudly; exclaimed at; aod the reason for making that law, was to pre^ vent the setting up of any such bubbles or monopolies for the future. The petitioner has never so much as endeavoured to make a bubble of his affair, nor has he ever grasped at the [9# setting up of any unlawful monopoly. He pretends to nothing else but what every author of a new invention is reasonably intided unto, that is, to have the sole use of his own invention for so long a time, as may be a just recompence to him for the hazard and expence he has been at, in bringing his invention to perfection. If he can shew to this House, that he has not yet had such a recompence as is sufficient, we are not confined by the former law; we not only may, but we ought, to bring in a Bill for prolonging the term of his patent, er we ought to grant him such other recompeace* as may be deemed proper and reasonable. Raw silk may be bought even in this country for 16s. per pound, but when that very raw silk is manufactured and made organzine, it sells ' for Si t.per pound; the difference, which is fifty per cent, is all clear money got to the nation; the 8s. per pound, which is added to the price of that commodity, is all clear gain to us, because it is added by the labour and industry of our own people; and since this gain can be made only by the means of this engine, we must grant that this gentleman has, at his own hazard and charge, brought home a very useful and profitable branch of trade to his own country, for which he certainly deserves a recompence. If he can shew that he has not as yet a recompence by means of the patent granted to him, either because of the difficulty of brioging his invention ‘to perfection, or because of inevitable accidents that have occurred, his case ought to be considered; and the only proper way to inquire into this matter, is to refer his petition to the consideration of a Committee. Mr. John Drummond, member for Perth, said, Sir: I shall only take notice that ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- arger now than it was last year, but that proceeds from this being leap-year, so that there is a day's subsistence for the whole number of pensioners more than there was last year, which amounts to a much larger sum than the savings, by the decrease in the number of pensioners does am uni tp. As for the great iutrease of pensioners upon . that college within these few years past, it is very easy to account for it, because there were some time ago two (or three regiments brought over from Gibraltar and Port-lVJahon, that had been in garrison in those two places for 15 or 16 years, in all which time there had been few or no men discharged upon account of age or. infirmity, from either, of those regiments; the reason of which, I suppose, was the great expence of siending them home, and carrying over fresh recruits in their room: these soldiers having but very little fatigue, the officers found means to make them perform all the duty that was required of them, while they remained iii garrison: but upon their being brought home, the change of the air, added to their own age and infirmities, made most of them entirely unfit for a march, or for any duty whatever; and it being then easy for the officers to supply their places with young men that were fit for service, great numbers of them were discharged, so that I may Say, that the most part of those two or three regiments came all upon the hospital at once. Another reason, Sir, that has contributed much to the increase of those pensioners, is, that there is as yet but a very bad provision for decayed soldiers in the hospital in Ireland, which is the cause, that whenever any Regiment is brought over from that country in the course of chanring, the old and disabled men, who while in Ireland, did all they could to conceal their age or infirmity, then begin to solicit, and often obtain a discharge and certificate from their officer, in order to get themselves entered as pensioners in Chelsea college: this has been a sort of grievance, but his Majesty is doing all he can to get it rectified, as he does with respect to every grievance as Soon as ever he discover it; and it is to be hoped, that he will have success in his endeavours as to this. The worthy gentleman was in the right, when be said, that twenty years service was not always a proper qualification; it is not always allowed of as such; I have myself known several examples, when a sturdy well-looked man has come with a proper discharge and certificate from his officer, in order to be admitted upon the College, that the board have been so far from admitting him, that they examined him as to the method of his obtaining his discharge, and if it appeared that be had solicited the same, they have absolutely refused to admit him; upon the other hand, jf it appeared that he had not solicited his discharge, but was willing to continue in the service, the board has sent him back to the regiment, with orders to his officer to receive him.. As to the new roads made through the highlands of Scotland, they are certainly of great use not only to that country, but to the tfholc 9 * 33] PARL. HISTORY, 5 Glow II. 17 nation* because of the easy access thftt is thereby made to and from the country; and the expence will appear to be very small, when compared with the great charges, that have formerly been brought in, for marching detachments through that country; one would be surprized to see the difference between the suras charged for the' making of those roads, mod the vast sums charged for some of those marches; and whoever will beat the pains to compare them together, must grant, that the honourable gentleman who had the direction of-making those roads, has taken the utmost care to see the design executed in the most faithful and frugal mauner, and that he has thereby done a piece of signal service to his country and to posterity. Mr. Rulteney replied as follows: Sir; I doubt uot but all necessary precautions are takeu, at present, as to the admitting of pensioners upon that college, but whatever strictness may be observed in the inquiries as t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- l judge of it as he thinks proper. If it is approved of, I shall rejoice in having been the author of a measure, which I think will contribute so mucrfto the good of my country, in genera], and to the relief of those who have for many years borne too great M share of the public burthen; and if it h ip pens not to meet with the approbation of this House, 1 shall have the testimony of a good conscience for my comfort; for siuce I have no other view that only a sincere •and an honest intention to 9 give relief to my fellow-suhjects, I never can-have occasion to repent, nor do .1 any way, dread those reproaches, which may be unjustly thrown upon me, or upon the measure I am to propose; for these are things which in-, all public transactions every man must expect:No public measure can be proposed, but what may be hgainst the private interest and selfish-views of some particular men; but 1 fear not the enmity, and I despise the reviliogs of those, who prefer their own little sqlfish views to the general good and welfare of their country. I have, Sir, with the deepest concern observed, how heavy and how unequal a burthen has been long borne by the lauded gentlemen-of this kingdom:I have long had it in my view to procure them some ease as soon as possible, and am pleased to, think that an opportunity now offers itself for doing what I have so long had much at heart; and 1. hope I shall have the good luck to find that ray sentiments are approved, of by this House; and the approbation of .such an assembly I shall always-look upon as the greatest honour done to any proposal made by 'me. As to the manner, Sir; of raising taxes upon the people, it is a certain maxim, that that tax which is the most equal and the most genet al, is the most just, and the least burthensome. W here every man con-t tributes a small share, a great sum may be raised for the public service, without any man’s being sensible of what he pays; whereas a small' sum, raised upon a few, lies heavy upon each particular man, and is the more grievous, in thatrit is unjust; for where the benefit is ‘ mutual, the expence ought to be in common. Of all the taxes I ever could think of, there is not oue more general, nor one less felt, than that of the duty upon Salt. The duty upon Salt is a tax that every man in the nation contributes to according to his circumstances and condition in life; every subject contributes something; if he be a poor man, he contributes so small a trifle, it will hardly bear a name; if he be rich, he lives more luxuriously, and consequently contributes more; and if be be a man of a great estate, he keeps a great number of servants, and must therefore contribute a great deal. Upon the other hand, there is no tax that ever was laid upon the people of this nation, that is more unjust and unequal than the Land Tax. The laud-holders bear but a small proportion-to the people of this nation, or of any nation; yet no m; *n contributes any the least share to this tax, but he that is possessed of a land estate; and yet this tax has been continued without intermission for above these 40 years. It has continued so long, and has lain so heavy, that I may venture to say many a landed gentleman in this kingdom has thereby been utterly ruined and undone. This consideration. Sir, has prompted me to endeavour to procure them some relief, and for this end I shall venture to make the following motion. " That towards raiding the supply granted to his Majesty, the several'duties on 945] PARL. HISTORY, 5 Geo. If. home-made Salt, granted to the late king William and queen Mary, by an Act of the 5th and 5th years of their reign, for a term of years, and afterwards made perpetual; and also the additional Duties on Salt, granted by an act of the 9th and 10th years of his said late Majesty king William, and all the Duties chargeable on homemade Salt in Great-Britain, which by an act of the 3rd year of his present Majesty’s reign, ceased and determined on the 25th day of December 1730, be r ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f blowing the powder out of their wigs, that could hot, perhaps, bear the smell of gunpowder. As the affair before us is of the utmost consequence, so k ought to give us the more concern, that if it passes in this House, there are no hopes in the other: in the other House, we know, Sir, there is a peculiar Bench, which will [Here he was again called to Order, and was told by Mr. Speaker, That no gentleman was to throw reflections upon any body of men, nor was any member of that House, in my thing he said, to take notice of what was done, or what might be dones in the other, then the Captain wenronl Sir, it was not possible I could make any reflection upon any mat ), or (950 upon any set of men, for I had drawn tio conclusion. But 1& us do What We-will, let both Houses, if they have ft mind, pads this Bill, it is bo directly opposite to the interest of the nation, and to the interest of our present happy establishment, that I am convinced his Majesty will refuse giving it the sanction of the royal assent. Mr. Horatio Walpole stood Up, and said, Sir: I find some of those gentlemen, Who have spoken upon the affair in hand, are quite mistaken as to the motion that has been made. If any new and unheard of tax had been thereby proposed, they might have some reason for those fears, which they have represented ] PARL. HISTORY, 5 Gioiox II. support of their families. A gentleman then of 100/. a year in land, if his estate be rated at the full value, saves 5/. ayear by the abate* ment of Is. in the Land-Tax s Let us see if it be possible' that this can again be drawn from him by the salt-duty. 1 believe it will easily be granted me, that no man, of 100/. a year and no more, land-estate, without any other business, keeps sixteen in family; but supposing he does, yet at a bead the salt-duty cannot amount to more in the whole three years than 24s. How then is it possible to pretend that this is not a relief to such a gentleman? To pay but 24s. in three years, and at a thousand, I may say, different payments, is surely better, and much less grievous, than to be obliged to pay 5/. in one year, and at most at two payments. But suppose that such a man's estate is rated at the lowest value, that any lands in England are presumed to be rated at; suppose such ah estate to be rated but at one third of the full value, yet still by an abatement of Is. in the pound Land-Tax, he saves above 33s. and therefore such an abatement must be a relief even to such a man, of at least 9s. besides the advantage he has of having a much longer time to pay a less sum. Thus we see that what is now proposed, must be a very great relief to those, who are oppressed with mortgages and rent-charges, and must be some relief to every landed gentleman in the kingdom, who has nothing but the rents of his estate to depend upon, for the support of his family, and providing for his children. If there were any danger, Sir, that the reviving of this tax would! occasion mu rmu rings among the poople, I should be as much against it as any man in this House; but the tax is in its own nature so equal, and paid by such a vast multitude of people, and at so many different payments, that it becomes quite insensible to every particular man. We know by experience, that during the long time it was paid by the people, it never occasioned the least uneasiness, and we find that the remission of it gave no ease; it occasioned uo joy among the people, nor were there aoy good effects of it felt, either as to the lowering the price of goods or provisions at market, as to the raising the value of lands, or as to the reducing the wages commonly given to journeymen and day-labourers. Those therefore who have a regard to the interest of his Majesty, or to the ease and quiet of the kingdom, cannot make the least scruple in preferring a tax that is felt by no man, to a tax that is insupportable to a great many of those that are obliged to contribute thereto. Such a measure can breed no new enemies to our preseut happy establishment, but must convert a great many of the old, and insure the affections of the most con-, siderable part of his Majesty's subjects. In this, Sir, as well as in all the other motions, which I have ever bad the honour to xrt. ke to this House, I have always acted according to my own judgment fiat the good of my 1732.-r-/or reviving the Salt Duty* [070 country, and therefore, Sir, I have no. reason to be afraid of the curses and imprecations of any man. I do not think it altogether parliamentary to use any such expressions m this House; every man ought in common chanty to be presumed to act according to what he thinks best, and most conducive to the interest and ' happiness of his couotry. I have always done so, and while I continue to do so, I shall despise any outcries that may be groundlessly raised against me, or against any measure I propose. To conclude, Sir, the only tiling I had in view was, to propose what I thought the most easy and the most convenient method of relieving the landed gentlemen, in part at least of that tax which has so long lain heavy upoq them, and upon them only; I am convinced' that every gentleman in this House Will agree with me’ in this, that a land-tax, even of two shillings in the pound, is a most grievous tax upon all the landed-gentlemen in the kingdom, more especially upon those, whose estates are charged with heavy mortgages or large annuities; and I think’ I have clearly shewn, that the duty upon salt is no way inconsistent with our constitution, is no way burthensome eitbei upon our navigation or opr trade, an act of the. (ford of his present Majesty would have been enough; even such a general revival would not have been contrary to any of the or-, ders of this House; but it was thought proper to mention every law particularly, that no man might have it to say, that he was catohed, or that any tiling was secretly foisted in, or included under the general words of the Bill, which was not under consideration at tjie time the Bill vyas passed. Sir Wiliiatp Wyndham spoke next. Sir, As to this Tax upon Salt, I must still say, that I cannot but look upon it as a very great grievance upon the poor of this nation. The poorest labourer consumes for his own personal .use as much, nay more Salt than any member of this House, or any rich man in the nation, and therefore we must reckon that the poor pay as much as the rich:.there are but very few of the poor labourers and tradesmen that live in the families of those that employ them, they generally live upon the daily wages they receive, and it is very hard to make such a poor man pay out of the poor pittance of wage* he receives for his daily support, as much tor wards the public expence, as is paid by the richest man in the nation. We ought, Sir, to consider, that by taking from the rich, we only diminish their luxury, but by squeezing from the poor, we increase their misery. This, Sir, must be a moving consideration to every man that has any bowels of compassion "towards his fellow-creatures. But, Sir, besides oppressing the popr, we nr * 1031] PARL. HISTORY, 5 Geokce II. l?3f. — the Salt Duty Bill. fl(» * -now, I find, to overturn the method of proceeding always observed in this House in the like cases. This, Sir, is of the utmost consequence to the very being of our constitution. The ancient orders of this House ought most punctually to be observed. Some of them may perhaps seem to be of little consequence: But if we fall into a way of breaking through them upon slight occasions we shall soon fall into confusion; then indeed we may probably discover, that those orders which we now think to he trivial, were of the utmost consequence; but then it will be too late. I am really surprised to hear it sard, that a tax upon white herrings is a tax upon salt: We may as well •ay, that a duty upon fish, is a duty upon flesh, or that fish is flesh: And if we once come to give such a blind and implicit assent to the dic- tates or assertions of any man breathing, we may have freedom, we may have liberty, but I am sure it cannot then be said, that we make any use of the freedom we enjoy. We may perhaps now ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Particular Man ['particular man'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- corrected, and even all future doubts or disputes, as to regularity and method, may be obviated. As to what the worthy member who spoke last observed about the Civil List duties, it 2091] PARL. HISTORY, 5 Geobgi II. 1732. — on the Salt Buty Ml [109# must be granted, that they expire at the death df every King; and. Sir, it must likewise be granted, that since the first establishment of such duties, they have all been most punctually' revived by the very first parliament after the accession of the next successor.. But in what manner? Why, Sir, by the House’s taking them one by one under consideration in a Committee, and coming to a particular resolution as to everyone: Then indeed one general Bill is ordered to be brought in, in pursuance of all these particular resolutions: But is not' this, Sir, a method of proceeding quite different from the method we are now in ? If those Civil last Duties had ever been revived by a general resolution, and a great many expired or repealed penal laws, relating to the collecting of them; revived by a general reference in the n&v Bill, without being mentioned in the resolution of the Committee, then an argument might have been from thence drawn for the regularity of our present method of proceeding; but as there never was any such thing pretended to be done in the reviving of those Civil List Duties, I am of opinion, that the usual method of proceeding w.ith respect to the revival of them, is a very strong argument against the regularity of the method we are now in, with respect to this favourite scheme of reviving the duties upon salt. And thus, Sir, I hope, I have given a sufficient answer to the argument made use of by the gentleman who spoke last. But, Sir, as to the duty itself, I am surprized that there should be any farther dispute about it, for it really appears to me, that every man in this House is against it: Even of those who at first seemed to be for it some have since acknowledged, that it will be an intolerable' grievance upon the people in Scotland; and the rest have acknowledged, that it will be liable to a great many frauds: Sir, I cannot think that any man, who thinks this duty an intolerable grievance upon Scotland, will be for reviving it; and we have so many fraudulent practices already in this lungdom, that I cannot think any man will be for reviving a duty which he thinks will increase them. At this rate, Sir, I cannot really perceive that any man in this House is for the duty; why therefore should we dispute any longer about the method of reviving this duty, since every man, that has spoke in the debate, has given a good reason for his being against the duty itself ? This debate being over, the Bill was read a second time, and a motion being made for the ^committing thereof, and the question being put, it was carried in the affirmative, by 209 against 154; and it was resolved. That the House would resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, upon the said Bill, on the 8th instant. A BUI For securing the Freedom of Par-• Uaments*brought into the .] March f. Mr. Rolle presented, according to order, a Bill, for amending and making more effectual an act made in the 9th year of the reign of VOL.VIII. queen Anne, intitled, 1 An Act for securing'ths. * Freedom of Parliaments, by the farther Quali- * lying the Members to sit in the House of * Commons; ’ which was read the first, and ordered to be read a second time. The same day, two Bills were brought in, relating tQ George Robinson and John Thompson, pursuant to an order of the 25th of February, which were both read twice and committed:It . was also ordered, That the Committee do makfe the said two Bills into one. March 13. The Bill against George Robinson and John Thompson was read a third time, and sent up to the Lords, where it passed very speedily, and on the 20th instant had the royal assent. Report prom thb Committee to whom the Books, Instruments, and Papers relating to the Sale of the Estate of James late Earl of Derwentwater were referred.] Lord Gage reported from the Committee, to whom all the Books, Instruments, and Papers, relating to the Sale of the Estate of James, late earl of Derwentwater, * which have been presented to the House, pursuant to their orders, were referred; that the Committee had • " Another, but a more daring bare-faced instance of the abuse of parliamentary confidence, happened to be discovered this session, by the unwearied application of lord Gage. He had, before he was made a nobleman, been a Roman Catholic, which threw him into some connections with those families. Certain commissioners were appointed to sell the English estates forfeited by the rebellion, of the year 1715, and among others the forfeited reversion of one that had belonged to the-Derwentwater family, which actually brought in near 8,000f. a year, and was improveable to 9,000l. The commissioners employed in the sale of this reversion were sir John Eyles, sir Thomas Hales, serjeant Birch, and Dennis Bond, esq. Birch and Bond were men of business, knowing in the ways of life, and therefore in person attended all the transactions of the commissioners, of whom four were a quorum. The other two being really, or affecting to be, less conversant in the matters of the commission, by an unaccountable and indeed criminal indolence, seldom attended the office upon business; but when they did not attend, they empowered one Allen, who was secretary to the commissioners, to sign their names and affix their seals to all bargains, contracts, orders and other papers. By a particular management, this»sale was held in so clandestine a manner, though publicly advertised, that none appeared to bid hut one Mr. Smith, who bought the reversion at the easy rate of 1,000l. At the time of this sale, the eldest son of the late earl of Derwentwater, who was but a stripling, was in a languishing State of health; and lie actually dying soou after, the estate came to Smith and his associates, who had been concerned in the management of the sale; because Charles Ratclifie, 3 U 1087] PARL. HISTORY, 5 Geobob II .1732 — JUpothe Sale [108 * examined the said Books, Instruments, endpapers, and had agreed upon a Report, which ' they had directed him to make: and.he read the Report in his place, and afterwards delivered it in at the Clerk's table. The said Report Was as follows: REPORT from the Committee to whom all ' the Books, Instruments, and Papers, RELATING TO THE SaLE OF THE ESTATE OF James late Earl of Derwentwater, WERE REFERRED. The Committee, to whom all the Books, Instruments, and Papers, relating to the sale otthe estate of James late earl of Derwentwater were referred, pursuant to the order of the House, Rave examined the said Books, Instruments, and papers. Before your Committee entered into their examination they perbsed the act of parliament .passed in the 1st year of the reign of his late Majesty king George, intituled, An act for * appointing commissioners to inquire into * the estates of certain traitors and of popish * recusants, and of estates given to su- * perstitious uses, in order to raise money out * of them severally for the use of the public And also, the act passed in the 4th year of his said late Majesty's reign, intituled, An Act * for vesting the forfeited estates in Great Bri- * tain and Ireland in Trustees, to be sold for the use of the public; and for giving relief to 4 lawful creditors, by determining the claims; * and for more effectual bringing into the res-1 pective Exchequers, the rents and profits of the said es ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f much less consequence than this occasioned the present rebellion in Corsica, by which the people of that island are like to change masters, and even the disturbances in that little island may chance to involve all Europe, in new troubles. Though the people Of this nation submitted peaceably and quietly for 90 many years to this grievous tax, yet we are not from thence to presume, that they will always submit peaceably and be paid by six raeii, . worth about 1$ pounds i a-piece, we know that this would amount to 20r, a-piece, which is a twelfth part of their* whole estate: These payments may perhaps seem to be grievous upon these si^ men, and therefore, in order to ease them, we find out 10 other men who are worth six pounds a-piece, and 240 men who are worth Is. a-piece, and we resolve to make this great number of 256 men pay among them 12 pound?, each man according to'his estate; in thiscaaethere are 240men that must pay but a penny a>piece, this amounts to bat 20s. of the 12 pounds; there are other ten men who must pay but 10s; a-piece, this amounts to but five pounds of the 12 pounds, and therefore the six men worth 12 pounds a-piece, must still pay 20s. a man: So that the payments fall as grievously upon them as they did before, and are e ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Redresse (old spelling) MATCH TEXT: 'redresse' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ations consisting partly in exCUMfs for themselves, and partly to accuse etch other; your Committee did not think proper to abridge the same, but have inserted thrift at large, viz. The right honourable sir Robert Sutton, ode of the Committee, being examined, said, That he had but little share in the management of the Corporation, and, when he entered upon it, frequently afterwards declared, that he neither would nor could attend the execution of the ordinary business of the Corporation; that when they first entered itato business, assistants were chosen to assist the Committee in the ordinary busings; Uttd soon after a Committee of Accounts were chosen at a general court of nine gendettaeta, Who WUife most of them merchants, or 'men bred and versed in business and understood accounts; and afterwards a resolution passed, that all the Committee should have Voices at the said Committee of Accounts, who always attended and did business: that be was ignorant of accounts, and never sat down at a Committee of Accounts till the 21st of July 1730, and then there were no accounts examined, and thought Uy that, it was another Committee; but there Was not any other Committee at that time, uk the Examinant believes or remembers; and that he was assured by those gentlemen, that they did examine the accounts minutely; that two gentlemen of the Committee, or assistants, were for a long time named and appointed to attend on stated days at the house in the city, for the execution of the ordinary bnsitaess Of the Corporation; but that he, the examinant, was never of that number; ' by which it appeared, that his attendance was not expected: and if his name appears to be in the Committee book from the beginning of 1728, till June, 1729, he was not at the Committee above two or three times, was part of the time abroad, and ill the rest of it, and Was excused for his nod-attendance: that he never heard of any complaint or information, but took pains to have the same rectified; ana were redressed; and he never heard of or suspected the great embezzlements, which have been made of the Corporation's effects. And the examinant further said. That be had a particular part in obtaining the licence in 1728, and spoke to the ministry:that it wav represented to him by Mr. Burroughs, Mr. Oaker, -and Mr. Squire, that they had lent the money, of which their capital consisted, ©at upon pledges, and assured him that great demands were made by borrowers:that their d*- UM] PARL. HISTORY, 5 GgowjfcH. 17 S£ — Jo Ckqritabk Corporation. [1136 pftnl being limited* they could lend no farther; apd were desicous to have an enlargement:Ihat thereuppn the examinant went to lord Townshend’s house, and believes sir Robert Walpole was there, and represented the same to lord Townshend; and (bat he thought the •ante was useful and reasonable, and made no great objection against it, and would consider of the quantum; and believes, he said if QQQsOQOl. was added to their capital, it would be all lent in a reasonable time; and be of service to the public. ' That iis June 1728* the examinant was preparing to go abroad, apd on the 11th waited on his Majesty to take his leave, and the same day bad aent his equipage before, intending to follow in four or five days:but the wind being contrary, he was detained till the third of July, Md then embarked; and does not believe, that he knew-when the said licence was signed, eg taken out; but believes Burroughs solicited the same, and took it out: that before the examinant went, he ordered stock to be bought for him, as believing, 'it would improve in value:that when he returned home, he found Burroughs had made a great flourish in a speech to the general court upon the same’s being obtained; and did not know the same was concealed; and neyer knew, heard, or suspected, that any money or shares were given in any shape whatever for obtaining the same:And lie further said, That he applied to ford Townshend about the third licence; and bearing, that t ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e, for obliging him to surrender himself at a time and place to be mentioned in the Bill; to give security for his not going out of the kingdom for one year for discovering his estate; and for preventing the transporting or alienating the *ame> It was also ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill, for the relief of the Sufferers in the Charitable Corporation. Two Bills were accordingly brought in, and passed both Houses, hut the Lords struck the name of George Jackson and Benjamin Robinson out of the Bill. Mr. Sandy % reports from the Committee on the Charitable Corporation, that Signor Bel* Umi had written to them froth Rome, that Thomson teat detained Prisoner there.] Map 16. Mr. Saudys acquainted the House, that sir Robert Sutton bad come to him that moating, and told him, that he had received a letter from a correspondent of his at Paris, in which was inclosed a Letter from Signor Belloni, a banker at Rome, directed to the Committee to whom the Petition of the proprietors of the Charitable Corporation was referred, or in case - the said Committee did not subsist, to sir Robert Sutton and others, acquainting them, that the said Belloni had procured John Thomson, late warehouse-keeper to the said Corporation, to be secured a prisoner in the castle of Sl« Angelo at Rome. Hereupon the said commktee was ordered to be revived. May 92. Mr. Sandys made a farther Report from the above Committee, and thereupon it was ordeled/That the several Letters and Papers mentioned in the said Report should be laid before the House. Then it was referred fee a committee to translate Ssgndr Bdloni’s Letter. Signor Belloni's Letter.] May 33. The lord Hervey presented the translation of that Letter, as follows: " Gentlemen; Rome, May 4, 1739. ".It is with great pleasure that I lay hold of this occasion, which now offers, to shew my esteem and my affection fat (ha English nation. 1165] PARL. HIST. ffGao.IL 1732. — King* fai, [I 161 by contributing to the Advantage of many private person^ in that kingdom, and consequently to the satisfaction of the parliament, and the nation itself. " As the frauds, that have been committed in the management of the Charitable Corporation, have made a great noise every where, people here have been sensibly touched with the misibrtunes these frauds have occasioned, and have felt the interest the nation had to redress them, which could not be effected, but by seizing the person and the papers, the books and the effects of Mr. Thomson, which the parliament had not yet been able to compass. " To thia end having received advice, that the said Thomson might come to Rome under tome borrowed name, the necessary measures were taken to put him under an arrest upon his arrival there, which have been put in execution:at the same time his papers, letters be has received from England since his departure from thence, copies of letters he has written to |iis confidents, and notes of his most secret affairs have been seized: He himself is at present in the castle of St. Angelo, and has by. this means been put under a sort of necessity to discover the whole mystery of this affair; which he has amply done, by discovering not only the books and effects of the Corporation, but also his qwq. " This being done, I have been ordered to communicate this important discovery to whom •pod where it may be proper, for the good and advantage of* the nation; wherefore I dispatched without delay a courier to one of my correspondents at Paris, with all the papers relating to this affair, that he may find the means |o have them put into your hands. " But as equity requires, that the proprietors of the Charitable Corporation, whp will reap IQ great an advantage from this discovery, should yield to certain conditions before the papers and, writings be delivered to you; I have ordered my correspondent to insist on these conditions being previously agreed to, and in the mean time to look on these papers, as a simple deposit in his hands not to be part ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rs, made at home, and set to sale, and they were given to Charles the 2nd as an equivalent fo» hit giving up the Court of Wards, 9 V, .’ft . SIXTH* SESSION OF THE SEVENTH PARLIAMENT OF 1 GREAT BRITAIN. The King's Speech on Opening the Session.] January 16, 1733. The King came to the House of Peers, and the Commons attending, his Majesty opened the session with the following Speech: u My Lords and Gentlemen, 4< It is a great satisfaction td me, that the present situation of Affairs, both at home and abroad, makes it unnecessary for me to lay before you any other reason for toy calling you together at this time; but the ordinary dis^ patch of the public business, and that I may have an opportunity of receiving your advice upon such affairs as may occur to you, and shall require the care and consideration of parliament. 44 Gentlemen of the House of Commons, 441 will order the proper officers to lay be^ fore you the Estimates for the service of the current year; and I make no doubt but that you will, with the same cheerfulness as I have always experienced in you, effectually raise such supplies as you shall judge necessary for the hpuour, safety, and defence of the kingdom; and I cannot but recommend it to you, as a consideration worthy the Commons of Great Britain, that’in all your deliberations, as well upon raising the annual supplied, as the distribution of the public revenues, you pursue such measures as will most conduce to the present and future ease of those you represent. 44 My Lords and Gentlemen, " You must be sensible, that it is very desirable to give all possible dispatch to the public business, and that nothing can give morn weight and credit to all your ‘resolutions, than to avoid unreasonable heats and animosities, and not to suffer yourselves to be diverted, by any specioos pretences, from stedfastly pursuing the true interest of your Country: Let that the Purveyances, and other Rights of the Crown which rendered it too powerful for the liberty of the subject, and had long been' eye sores to the parliament and people of England. As the crown had always before absolutely Rejected all proposals'of a commutation of this kind, and as the king could have no other security for the performance of the bargain, but the faith and honour of parliament, the latter^ from time to time, piqued itself upon making the laws for collecting the excise so severe, that in many respects, they seemed to encroach upon private property 1 and personal liberty. They, who had been punished by them, thought themselves injured, and their numbers were so great, as to render the clamour against them almost universal. -"Such were the dispositions of the public with 1169] PARL. HIST. 6 Gtofteill. l»S3. — be yoar first and principal care; and the people will be sensible of the benefits they shall receive from your wisdom and resolution in prefering their ease and the public good to all other considerations." The Lords’ Address of .] The King . being withdrawn, the marquis of Lothian moved an Address of Thanks, and being seconded by lord Lovelace, the same was unanimously agreed to as follows: ' Most Gracious Sovereign, * We your Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in Parliament assembled, do in all humility return the Thanks of this House for your Majesty’s most gracious Speech from the throne. " It is owing to the happy success of your Majesty’s counsels and negotiations, that your Majesty now assembles your parliament for no other reasons, but the ordinary dispatch of public business; and your Majesty being graciously pleased to express such a great satisfaction in giving us an opportunity of humbly offering our advice to the throne upon such affairs, as shall require the care and consideration of parliament, we think it incumbent on us, in return, to consider that part of our duty to be the highest honour and privilege of this House, which, as we have always enjoyed, so we beg leave to assure your Majesty, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Particular Man ['particular man'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- r, did not affect the decision of the House of Commons. The influence of the minister, aided by the co-operation of the landed, monied, and popular im-terests, triumphed over opposition; and the motion was carried by a majority of 119 voices; 245 against 135/' Coxe's Walpole*-4 H 1203] PARL. HISTORY, 6 George II. 1733. — Debate on issuing £.500,000 [1204 this motion shall appear not to be agreeable to the Committee, then I, or some other. member of this House, must move for a Land-Tax of two shillings in the pound, there not being, so far as I know, any other way or means left of providing for the Current service of the Year." Mr. William Pulteney hereupon made the following speech: Sir; Though I was aware of the motion now made by the honourable gentleman sitting near me, * yet I was in hopes that what he has now moved for, was not all he was to open this day to the Committee we are now in; and therefore I shall conclude with a motion of a different kind from what the gentleman has been pleased to make to us. But, Sir, there is another thing, a very terrible affair impending! A monstrous project! Yea, more monstrous than has ever yet been represented! It is such a project, as1 has struck terror into the minds of most gentlemen within this House, and into the minds of all men without doors, who have any regard to. the happiness or the constitution of their country, I mean, Sir, that monster, the Excise! That t)lan of arbitrary power, which is expected to be laid before this House in the present sessions •of parliament. This, I say, is expected, and therefore I am for having the whole of that gentleman’s designs laid before this Committee at once, and a sufficient time given for us to consider the whole, before we come to a resolution on any part. Of late years gentlemen have been led, I do not know how, into a new method of proceeding in parliament, a method very different from what, our ancestors did always observe. In former times, the general or particular grievances were first examined, considered, and redressed in parliament, before they entered upon the granting of any supplies; but lately we have been led into a method of granting all the money necessary for the public service, among the first things we do. The malt-tax bill, the land-tax bill, and such bills, are now in every session the first things that'appear upon the Journals of this House; and when these things are finished, the gentlemen in the administration generally look on the whole business of the session to be over. If this House should then anter upon any disagreeable inquiries into grievances, we might then perhaps be told, that the season was too far spent; that it was necessary for gentlemen to return home to mind their private affairs; wp might probably be obliged to defer to another session, what the welfare of this nation required to be determined in the present. I hope gentlemen will consider this, and that they will again begin to follow the wise method observed by our ancestors, and keep aome security in our own hands for our sitting, till we have heard and redressed all the grievances of our feljow-subjects. There are several v Mr. Polreuey always, though in opposition, sat upoa the Treasury Bench. things which we ought to examine into, before this session shall be concluded. JD'oes not every gentleman know ? Does not every gentlfemaa expect that there is an application to be made to us from the South-Sea Company ? That Company has now made choice of a set of honest proprietors to be the directors of their affairs; they are enquiring into the state of that Company’s affairs, and they must - inquire into the management of their affairs for some time past: In both these they will stand in need of a parliamentary relief, and in both it ought to be granted them. The honourable gentleman addresses himself in a very particular manner to the landed interest; I hope every gentleman in this House has a regard for the landed interest; but I hope the landed gentlemen of this House are not to be bullied into any ministerial jobs, by telling them, that if they do not agree to such a motion, a land tax of two shillings in the pound must be moved for. I hope, Sir, the landed gentlemen will never be induced to consent to any thing that may undo the nation, and overturn the constitution for so small a bribe, so trifling a consideration, as that of being free from the payment of one shilling in the pouud land-tax, and for one year only. The landed gentlemen of this nation have often ventured' their all in their country’s cause; audit is an indignity offered to them, to imagine, that paying or not paying such a trifle as one shilling in the pound laud-tax, will be of any weight with them, when it comes in competition with the welfare and happiness of their country. The Sinking-Fund, that sacred deposit for extinguishing the debts and abolishing the taxes, which lie so heavy on the trade and the people of this nation, ought never to be touched; no consideration whatever ought to prevail with us to convert that fund to any use, but that for which it was originally designed. It has of late been too often robbed; I beg pardon, sir, robbing is a harsh word, I will not say robbed; but I must say, that upon several occasions there have been considerable sums snipped away from it: upon the demise of his late Majesty, a large sum was taken from the Sinking-Fund, and applied to the civil list: by the taking off the salt-duty, another large yearly sum was taken away from that fund; and the people are now again charged with that duty, but no restitution has been made to the sinking-fund. Thus, Sir, there has been already a very large sum taken from it at several times, and now it is proposed to snip off it 500,000l. at once. At this rate, the people of this nation must for ever groan under the load of taxes they ar ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ose, will, if granted, be an effectual remedy. But if gentlemen will be prevailed on by industry, artifice and clamour, to indulge the suggestions of party prejudice, they and their posterity must pay dear for it, by the grievous entail of a heavy land tax, which they will have sanctioned by their pusillanimity, in not daring to brave the outrages of the fraudulent and self-interested. For myself, I shall only say, I have so little partiality for this scheme, except what a real and constitutional love of the public inspires, that if I foil in this proposal, it will be the last attempt of the kind I shall ever make, and I believe, a minister will not soon be found hardy enough to brave, on the behalf of the people, and without the slightest motive of interest, the worst effects of popular delusion and popular injustice. " I shall for the present, confine myself entirely to the tobacco trade, add to the frauds practised in that branch of the revenue. If there is one subject of taxation more obvious than another, more immediately within the direct aim of fiscal imposition than another, it is such an article of luxury as depends for its use on custom or capriee, and is by no means essential to the support of real comfort of human life. If there is a subject of taxation where it is more immediately the province of the legislature to suppress fraud, and strictly to insist on the payment of every impost, it must be that where the wrong is felt by every class of persons, and none are benefited, except the most dishonest and profligate part of the eoniT munity. Both these descriptions apply to the subject before us. For though the use of tobacco is perhaps less sanctioned by natural reason than any other' luxury, yet so great is ‘ the predilection for it, in its various forms, that from the palace to the’hovel there is uo efcemp- 1371] PARL. HISTORY, 0 George II. 173*_Debate on Sir Robert WolpoU't [1273 tion fr$n» the duty; and surely it most be considered an intolerable grievance, that by (be frauds which are daily committed, the very poorest of the peasantry are obliged to pay this duty twice: once in the enhanced price of the article; for- though the fraudulent trader contrives to save to himself the amount of the tax imposed by parliament, yet he does not sell it cheaper to the public; and a second time, in the tax that is necessarily substituted to make good the deficiency which has been by these means occasioned. Did it ever happen till now, that when an abuse of this kind was to be remedied, endeavours were used to make the Attempt unpopular ? " In. discussing this subject, it will be necessary £rst to advert to the condition of oyr planters of tobacco in America. If they are to be believed, they are reduced to the utmost extremity, even almost to a state of despair, by the many frauds that have been committed in that trade, and by the ill usage they have sustained from their factors and correspondents in England, -who from being their servants, are become their tyrants. These unfortunate people have sent home many representations of the had state of their'affairs; they have lately.deputed a gentleman with a remonstrance, setting forth their grievances, and praying for some speedy relief:this they may obtain by means of the scheme I intend now to propose; but I believe 'it is from that alone they can expect any relief. " The next thing to be considered is, the state of the Tobacco trade with respect to the fair trader. The man who deals honourably wkb the public, as well as individuals, the man who honestly pays all his duties, finds himself forestalled in almost every market within the island, by the smuggler and fraudulent dealer.-As to our foreign trade in tobacco, those who have no regard to honour, to religion, or to the welfare of the country, but are every day contriving ways and means for cheating the public by perjuries and false entries, are the greatest gainers; aod it will always be so, unless-we can contrive some method-of putting it out of their power to carry on such frauds for the future. "We ought to consider the great loss sustained by the public, by means of the frauds eommitted in the tobacco trade, and the addition that must certainly be made to the revenue, if tho*e frauds can be prevented in future. By this addition, parliament will acquire the means of exercising one of its most enviable privileges, that of diminishing the burthens of the country, the power of doing which will thus be presented to them in various fopns. If it should be the prevailing opinion, (hat the discharge of the national debt shopld be accelerated, this increase offers an abundant resource. If tfae idea should prevail, that those taxes ought to be alleviated which fivll heaviest on our manufacturers and the labouring poor, as soap *nd candles, this increase will replace the dif-ie&ncei Or if it should be judged that more immediate attention ought to be paid* to the current service, the fund may be reserved for that use: and it is manifestly unjust and impolitic, that the national debt should be continued, and the payment postponed; or that the heavy duties on our manufactures should remain, which are justly pkid, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- direct the attention of the committee, is that of receiving the whole drawback fora commodity of almost no value, namely, the stalks of the tobacco, which it is usual, after the leaf has been stripped off, to press flat, and cut, and by mixing this offal with sand and dust, impose on the revenue officers, and obtain the same drawback as for an equal weight of the entire plant. This miserable stuff, when the fraudulent purpose has once been answered, is either thrown into the sea, or relanded and sold at three farthings a pound, with an allowance of 1, 010 pounds weight in five hogsheads. " The fourth fraud I shall advert to, is one of very great consequence, known by the name of socking, which is a cant term for pilfering and stealing tobacco from ships in the river. This iniquitous practice, which was discovered in 1728 nnd 1729, was chiefly carried on by watermen, lightermen, tide-waiters, and city porters, called gangs-men: the commodity so pilfered was deposited in houses from London Bridge to Woolwich, and afterwards sold, frequently to eminent merchants. Five hundred examinations, have been taken on the subject, from which it appears, that, in the space of one year, fifty tons were sOcked on board ships and on the quays. Sixteen tons were seized, but that quantity was reckoned an inconsiderable part Af the whole. In consequence of these informations, 150 officers were dismissed, niue were convicted, of whom six are ordered for transportation^ three to he whipt; these 1075] PARL. HISTORY, 0 GiOMt li 173on Robert Walpole's [1076. prosecutions were al! carried on at the expence of government; end it is not a Kttle remarkable, when We recollect the professions of patriotism, virtue, and disinterestedness, which are now so copiously poured forth, that not a single merchant, though the facts were so notorious and shameful, assisted the state, either by information or pecuniary exertion, to suppress the fraodgor bring the delinquents to punishment. . " The last grievance I shall mention, cannot so properly be denominated a fraud, as ah abuse arising from the nature of the duties paid, and the manner of paying them; I mean the advantage afforded to the merchant of trading with the public money, or making government pay more than they receive. Bonds ore given tor eighteen months, three years are allowed for the exportation of the article, and new importations discharge old bonds. The losses which result to government from the failure of the obligors in these bonds, is immense; besides the ungracious task to which it subjects them of suing , the sureties, who had no interest in the contract. The rich trader has another advantage; hearoids giving bonds, by paying the amount of his duties in ready money, for which he is allowed a discount of ten per cent. Now it is very common, and not out of the line of fair trade, for a merchant to pay this duty, receive the discount, and by immediately entering the same commodity for exportation, gain an advantage (I will not say defrqud the revenue) of ten per cent, without loss, risque, or expenditure. "The frauds which I have here enumerated are, I apprehend, sufficiently proved to satisfy the Committee of their existence, and their enormity is obvious enough to demand active interference. The only remedy I can devise, is that of altering the manner of''collecting the duties. Frauds become practicable by having but one check at importation, and ode at exportation; if there is btit one sentinel at a garrison, and he deeps, or is corrupted, the castle is taken; but if there are more than one, it is in vain to corrupt the first, without extending the same influence to those who remain; and when difficulties are so multiplied, the project becomes hazardous and uncertain, and is abandoned. * < If the grievance then is admitted, it only remains to mention the remedy, and to consider whether it is effectual, or whether it is worse than the disease. " The laws of the customs are manifestly insufficient to prevent the frauds which already exist; I therefore propose to add the laws of excise:and by means of both, it is probable, I may say certain, that, all such frauds will be prevented in future. " I have already stated to the committee, that the several imposts nn tobacco amount to sixpence and one third nf a penny per pound, all of which must be paid down in ready mo-rity upon importation, with the allowance often " per cent. upoQ'p'rompt payment; or there must oe bonds’given, with Sufficient sureties, for payment, which is often a great loss to the public, and always a great inconvenience to the merchant importer. Whereas, by what I shall propose, the whole duty will amount to no more than fourpence three farthings per pound, and wiR not be paid till the tobacco is sold for home consumption; so that if the merchant exports his tobacco, he will be quite free from all payment of duty, or giving security: he will have nothing to (Jo but re-load his tobacco for exportation, without being at the trouble of attending to have his bonds cancelled, or taking out debentures for the drawbacks; all which, I conceive, must be a great ease to the fair trader; and to every such trader the prevention of frauds roust be a great advantage, because it will put all the tonacco traders in Britain on the same footing, which is but just and equitable, and what ought, if possible, to be accomplished. " Now, in order to make this ease effectual to the fair trader, and to contribute to his advantage, by preventing, as much as possible, all frauds for the future, I propose, as I have said, to join the laws of excise to those of the customs, and to leave the one penny, or rather three farthings per pound, called the farther snhsi4y» to be still charged at the custom house, upon the importation o ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ional debt. There had been deficiencies in several, but now a supply is made; a sinking fund for gradually discharging the principal. A million per annum has for several years been applied, and that, by the public creditors, is now ^thought more than sufficient. w If under the preseot management, the duties produce much less' than ought to be paid to the public, has the public a right to make the most of their own revenues, or are they alone excluded from (doing themselves justice ? To object against the improvement of the king’s part, is to say, that the public had better be defrauded of seven parts in eight, than that justice should be done to the crown in the eighth. If manifest frauds were discovered in a branch belonging entirely to the civil list, the post office for example, would you rather sanction the wrong than do justice to the crown? Why then this unreasonable jealousy in the present instance ? I call the jealousy unreasonable, because in this proposition all possible care has been taken to avoid the im- Sutation of being designed for the benefit of ie crown. The penny which goes to the civil list is left to be paid at the Custom house. All increase from the inland duty is not to go to the crown, but to the public. All fines, forfeitures, and penalties arising from the inland duties, are renounced by the crown, and appropriated to the public. In a word, the crown will have no interest in the inland duty, but as trustee for the public. " This fact, duly considered, answers the H great objection to the determination of commissioners. For granting, for a moment, that commissioners are to be supposed corrupt, venal, and creatures of the crown, what influence can their regard for the crown have on them, to induce them to oppress the people, when the crown has no interest in their determination ? But though this answer might reasonably be deemed satisfactory and sufficient, yet to obviate even speculative objections, a remedy is supplied for this supposed grievance, by investing^ three of the twelve judges with a power of determining, in a summary way, all appeals brought before them within the bills of mortality; and in the country, the same power is to be vested in one of the judges of the assize going the next circuit. This renders it impossible that the interest of the subject can be sacrificed to undue influence on the one hand, or the revenue to private solicitation, personal friendship or regard on the other. While such S tribunal presents itself, no offender would chuse to be carried into Westminster-hall, rather than have his cause judged in a summary way. The benefit of a trial by jury would not induce a man to encounter the tedious, vexati- ous, and 'expensive proceedings in a court of law, more burthensome than the penalties and forfeitures in dispute, as far as my own observation enables me to judge on the present system, where the commissioners have, in most cases, a power to determine themselves, or to bring informations, I have found that most peo- Ele, against whom informations have been laid, ave been desirous that their causes should be deteroiined by commissioners; but I never yet heard of one who was willing to take his cause < out of the hands of the commissioners to have it tried in Westminster-hall. One reason which contributes to render the exercise of power by the commissioners more popular is, that they possess the privilege of mitigation, which is not entrusted to the judges, who are merely administrators of the law according to the letter. " The next objection is the increase of revenue officers, which fear, interest, and affectation have magnified into a standing army. This standing army, allowing the proposed addition to extend to tobacco and wine, will not according to the estimate of the commissioners, exceed one hundred and twenty-six persons that number, in addition to those already employed, will do all the duty. In this computation, warehouse-keepers are of course not included, their nu ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- now so good an opinion of the scheme, will not think of thrusting it down people’s throats, when they see that the generality of the natfon have an opinion of it quire different from what they have; such a resolution, such an attempt might produce consequences which I tremble to think of: and this is another motive which is 6f great weight with me; 1 have the honour to know his Majesty, his royal person I have formerly had the honour to approach, and I know him to be a prince of so much goodness, that were this scheme represented in this light to. him, lie never would approve of it; to him it 1917} PARL. HISTORY, 0 6ior«i H. 1 will always be a sufficient reason against any proposition, that the generality of his people nave shewn their dislike to it: 1 love his Majesty, I have a sincere and a dutiful respect for him and all his royal family; and therefore I shall always be afraid of any thing that mav alienate the affections of many of his Majesty's (aithful subjects* which 1 believe would be the certain consequence of the present establishment of this scheme; for which reasons, if the question be now pushed, I shall most heartily give mv negative to it. Sir Philip Yorke (Attorney General) spoke as follows: Sir; After the honourable gentleman near me had opened to the Committee, in a manner so fqll and so clear, a scheme which had met, with so unfair and so ungenerous a treatment, before those who treated it so could know any thing about it, I little expected that the honourable gentleman who spoke last, or any gentleman in this Committee, could be so far deceived, as to have taken it in the light they do. In my opinion, the debate is now put upon a footing very different from what it ought to be: W hat call the affair now before us have to do with our constitution ? there is nothing, there can be nothing supposed to be in the proposition made by my honourable friend, that can in the least tend towards incroaching on our constitution, or towards affecting the liberty of the subject. The only Consideration at present before us is, whether we shall allow thosjp gross frauds and abuses, formerly committed in the tobacco trade, to be still carried on with impunity, or accept of a remedy which, by effectually preventing these frauds for the future, will considerably improve the public revenue, will be of great ad-. vantage to the fair trader, and of singular use and benefit to the whole nation ? This is the plain question now before us, and if it be considered in its proper light, with- • .out confounding it with other matters with which it has no manner of relation, I am sure it cannot admit of any debate. The honourable gentleman, in opening this affair to us, made it so manifest that there have been great frauds committed in that branch of trade; and that the preventing of those frauds would be a great improvement to the public revenue, .that what he advanced on that head has not been opposed or contradicted:and this House , has been upon all occasions so very careful of the public revenues, and has beeu always so ready to agree to any measures for preventing abuses io the collecting of them, that I cannot help thinking that the dislike, which appears against the remedy now proposed, roust proceed from some other motives than gentlemen are willing to own. * It is certain, that by the frauds and abuses that are committed in this branch of the revenue, not only the public is cheated of what is due to them, but likewise every private consumer is mcst grossly imposed on, fur he pays ' / ' 1 135. — Debate on Sir Robert Walpole?t [1968 the sama price as if the duties had actually been paid to the* public: he pays a high price for what he consumes, but then be has this for his comfort, thdt he thinks a great part of that high price goes towards the public good of his country; but in all fraudulent trade he is imposed on, the high price he pays, goes every farthing of it into the pocket of the fraudulent dealer. This then being plainly the case, I should tbiuk that the gentlemen, who oppose this scheme, ought to endeavour to shew us, that no such frauds as are pretended, have been committed; or that they are so inconsiderable that they are not worth minding; or that what is proposed would be po sort of remedy for them: but upon the present question, to talk of our constitution seems really to me to be a sort of insinuation, as if frauds in the collecting of the public revenue were become a part ol our constitution; and that whoever attempts to remedy them, must attempt something against our constitution:aud as to the liberty of the subject, it is not possible for me to find out any liberty that can be struck at by the scheme now before us, but the liberty of smuggling; for as to national liberty, as to that liberty which has always been, and I hope always will be the glory of the people of these kingdoms, it is certain that our public revenues are its greatest security: bow then can that scheme be said to tend towards the destroying of liberty, which so evidently tends towards the improvement of that upoo which our liberty manifestly depends ? As to the raising clamours and disaffection among his Majesty’s faithful subjects, there can be no reason for apprehending any such thing from the scheme now proposed to os; whatever clamours may have been unjustly raised by ill-designing men against the scheme before it was known, will certainly all vanish as soon as it comes to be publicly known that there never was .any thing intended by the scheme, but only to enable the public to, receive those duties they are already by law in-tied to; and to prevent the fair trader’s being undone by rogues and smugglers:so that one strong argument with me for agreeing to the scheme is, that by cerrying it into execution, and thereby shewing to every man what it really is, those ill-grounded clamours, which have been raised by the enemies of the government, may be allayed; and may be made appear to he at last as groundless as they were at first malicious. Besides, as one of the chief things intended by this scheme, is the relief of the landed interest, it must contribute towards establishing his Majesty and his government in the hearts and affections of all the landed gentlemen in England, when they see themselves so considerably relieved as to a tax, which they have been charged with for a great many years; and that without loading them, or any of their fellow subjects, with any new tax whatever, or obliging one honest man in the kingdom to contribute a farthing to the public charge more than he did before: this must se ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- , whether it was their opinion, that if the commissioners of the customs bad the same power over their officers, as the commissioners of the excise have over theirs, it would not contribute a great deal towards making them -more faithful hi the discharge of their duty than they now are? Td this theiranswerwas, that they believed it would. After this, the commissioners being withdrawn^ sir John Barnard proceeded thus:] Sir; I now leave it to every gentleman in this House to consider, what real pretence can be formed for introducing such a dangerous scheme, as what has been proposed to us; the only pretence I have yet heard made use of is, the preventing effrauds, by which, say they, the fair trader will be encouraged, and the revenue encreased:but now you see, that is the opinion, even of the commissioners of the customs, that, by a due execution of the laws now in being, all or most of those frauds may be effectually prevented:and I am sure, if they can 1293] PARL. HISTORY, 6 George n. 1735. — Excise Scheme. [1394 be prevented by the laws in being, the preventing of them by that method will contribute much more to the increase of the public revenue, and to the encouragement of the fair trader, than the preventing of them by means of the dangerous'scheme now proposed to us. I now l^ave it to the whole world to judge, who are they that have secret motives which they are not willing to own; which they dare not own; Whether it be those who are the proposers and promoters of this scheme, or those who are the opposers of it ? The learned gentleman seemed to be surprised how our constitution, or the liberties of our country came to be brought iuto the present debate:he said, he thought they had no manner of concern in the present question.’ I am sorry to differ from a gentleman who, by his profession, ought, who certainly does understand the nature of our constitution, as well as any man in England; but I am of opinion, that the constitution of our government, and the liberty of the subject, was never more nearly or more immediately concerned in any question^ than they are in the present; they are both so deeply concerned, that their preservation or their total overthrow depends entirely upon the success of the scheme now under our consideration: If the scheme succeeds, they must tumble of course; if the scheme is defeated, they may be preserved:I hope they will be preserved till time shall be no more. But I must say, that the learned gentleipan, and every gentleman who appears as an advocate for the scheme now proposed to us, is much in the right to keep, if they can, the constitution and the liberties of their country out of the debate; it is from thence that the principal arguments are to he formed against their scheme; it is from thence that such arguments may be formed against it, as must appear unanswerable to every pan who has a regard for either. The gentleman tells us, 4 That there are but ‘ 4 120, or 150 'excise officers, besides warehouse keepers, to be added by the scheme now before usand this additional cumber they seem to make a ridicule of; but considering the swarms of tax-gatherers we have already established, this small number, as they call it, is no trivial matter; and I would be glad to know from those gentlemen, what they call warehouse keepers, and what number of them may be necessary ? ‘ I hope they will allow, that a warehouse keeper appointed by the treasury, and paid by the treasury, is an officer of the revenue, as much as any other officer whatsoever; and if the number that there must be of these be added to the other, I believe we may hud that the number of revenue officers to be added by this scheme roust be very considerable, As for the new method of appeal proposed, I can see no advantage that it will be of to any unfortunate man that may have occasion for.it: in all cases, the charge and trouble of attending mus^t be very great, and the event very precarious; but in most cases, where poor retail-era may have occasion ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- uing as to the case Which he has beets pleased now to lay before us, one may see a, •most plain and evident design of a ranch farther extension of the laws of excise; one may clearly see a design of subjecting every branch of the public revenue to those arbitrary laws; only the gentleman has a mpd, it seems, to be a little cunning, and to do it by piecemeal. Whatever opinion the honourable and learned gentleman may have of the proposition made by his honourable friend, it is plain it breathes nothing but the principles of the most arbitrary and most tyrannical governments, that have been established in Europe:The enlarging the power of the crown; increasing the number of dependents on the erdwn; rendering the happiness of the subject precarious and uncertain, and depending in a manner entirely on the good-will of a prime minister, or of those employed under him, are the certain consequences of the Scheme now proposed to us; they ace the certain consequences of all Schemes for extending the laws of excise, and are probably 90 1899] PARL. HIST. 6 George II. 1733. th« principal views of all those who set up such projects. Let gentlemen but read the political Testaments of Richlieu and Louvois, those legacies which were left by the authors to their master, for instructing him in the principles of arbitrary government; let gentlemen, Isay, but read those testaments, and they will see, that the author of this Scheme, whoever he be, must be very well versed in them; they "will see how well it agrees with the principles there laid down for the establishing and supporting of arbitrary power. It is for this reason that the English nation has always been so averse to excise-projects of all kinds; the very word ‘ Excise’ has always been odious to the people of England. It is true, there has been an excise established by parliament) but it was first given as a purchase for the court of wards and liveries; and though that court was mhst justly looked on as one of our greatest grievances, yet the purchase has always been reckoned too dqar, and that parliament which’gave the excise has been branded with the infamous name of a pensionary parliament. Even the great king William, notwithstanding ail he had done for the peopleof England, notwithstanding he was most generally beloved and esteemed- by his Subjects, yet he had like to have suffered by a 'notion’s prevailing among the people, that some new excises were to have been established. It was publicly said, that we had got a Dutch king, and that therefore we were to be saddled with Dutch excises: That wise king was so sensible of the danger he might be exposed to, by the prevalence of such a notion, that he thought it necessary to disavow any such intention by a public declaration. I most readily believe, that the honourable amfleamed gentleman over the way comes at all times to this House, undetermined as to any point that is to be brought before us; I believe he always comes resolved to be determined by what shall be offered in the course of the debate; but I am very much at a loss to find ont what in the present debate has determined him to be of the opinion he now seems to be of: He has, indeed, told u$y That the * reformation proposed as to the laws of excise, * is what very much weighs with him :’ He says, * That the laws of excise are to be blunted, * and their edge is to be taken off by what is * now proposed.’ In this, I must confess my shortsightedness, I ean see no reformation in what is proposed; what I look upon as most grievous in the laws of excise is to continue the tame as before:Are not the officers to have " the same oppressive and vexatious powers continued to them ? Are not the commissioners to have the same dispensing power with regard to fines and forfeitures ? Are trials by jury to he restored to die subjects ? No, all these grievances are to remain on the same footing they were before. The power and influence of the crown, by means of the laws of excise, is •till to he as great as it was before, only there are by this scheme many thousands more to be subjected to it; The method of appeal is, in- I. — Debate on Sir Robert Walpole?s [1800 deed, to be a little altered, but 1 am afraid the alteration will not be much for the better; the expence will be much greater, and the redress as precarious as ever it was before: How then are the laws of'excise to be blunted ? Where is this reformation so much boasted of, and on which that honourable and learned gentleman seems solely to ground his opinion I But it seems he expects, that when this proposition comes to the length of a bill, many fine things are to he done, many more things than we have ever yet heard of: If it should come to the length of a bill, which I am in great hopes it never will, he iqay very probably find himself disappointed; and if that should b* the case, I doubt not but he will be of a different opinion. Gentlemen have said, that there are no complaints made of the laws of excise, or of the oppressions of excise officers; but I believe there is no gentleman in this House, who cannot give some instances, even within his own knowledge, of most cruel oppressions committed by some of those officers:I am sure there is no gentleman who has ever acted in the country as a justice of peace, but can give hundreds of such instances. The people have complained so often, and so long, of the severity of those laws, and the vexation of those officers, that they cure now weary of complaining:To what purpose should they complain, since they see there has never as yet been any provision made for their redress ? Their complaints have been hitherto disregarded, even by those who are in some manner bound to take notice of them. The honourable gentleman was pleased to dwell long on the generosity of the crown, in giving up the fines, forfeitures, and ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Right of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'right of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- whatever. Gentlemen may give them what name they think fit; it may be said that they came hither as humble supplicants, but I know whom the law calls Sturdy Beggars, * and those who brought them hither could not be certain, but that they might have behaved in the same manner. Hereupon Sir John Barnard rose up to 6peak, but there being a disorder in the Committee, and the question being loudly called for. Sir John Hinde Cotton stood up, and spoke thus: ' To order, Sir, I hope you will call gentlemen tp order; there is now a gentleman up to speak; a gentleman who speaks as well as any gentleman in this House, and who deserves attention as much as any gentleman that ever spoke in this Hoose: Besides, be is one of the representatives of the greatest and richest city m Europe, a city which is greatly interested in dais • " I was informed, on the respectable authority of the late much to be regretted lord John Cavendish, that the minister used the phrase sturdy beggars, not as a matter of reproach, but to mark that the petitioners against the excise weie^fiNrmidabte.potitkMmrs.^ Coxe’a Walpole. 1307] PARL. HISTORY, 6 George II. \733.--DcbaU Sir Robert Walpole91 [180S debate, and therefore he mast he heard; and I desire, Sir, that you will call to order, that the Committee mfcy shew him at least that respect, which is due to every gentleman who is a member of this House. After this the Committee being called t6 order, Sir John Barnard went on: Sir, 1 know of no irregular or unfair methods that were used to call people from thetrity to your door; it is certain that any set of gentle- men or merchants may lawfully desire their friends, they may even write letters, and they mhy send those letters by whom they please, to desire the merchants of figure and character to-come down to the court of requests and to our lobby, in order to solicite their friends and acquaintance against any scheme or project, which they think may be prejudicial to them. This is the undoubted right of the subject, and what has been always practised upon all occasions. The honourable gentleman talks of Sturdy Beggars, I do not know what sort of people may be now at our door, because I have not lately been out of the House; but I believe they are the same sort of people that were there when I came last into the House, and then I can assure you that I saw none, but such as deserve the name of sturdy beggars as little as the honourable gentleman himself, or any gentleman whatever.'" It is well known that the city of London was sufficiently apprised of what we were this day to be about; where they got their information I do not know, but 1 am very certain that they had a right notion of the scheme which has been now opened to us; and they, were so generally and zealously bent against it, that whatever methods may have been used to call them hither, I am sure it would have been impossible to have found any legal methods to have prevented their coming hither. Then pfter some farther debate, the question being put upon the motion made by sir Robert 1 Walpole, it was carried in the affirmative, by 366 voices against 205.* 1 * u The debate was protracted till two o’clock in the morning, an hour at that time considered extremely late; The people without were so exasperated, that as sir Robert passed towards his carriage, some of them 1 caught him by the cloak, and would probably have committed some violent outrage on his person, if his son, Edward Walpole, and general Churchill had not interfered." — Coxe’s Walpole. u Whitehall, March 15th, 1782-3. It is With the greatest pleasure that I am now going to give your excellency an account of the success of yesterday’s debate, which is perhaps one of the most important that has happened since the Revolution. It was opened about a quarter before one, by sir Robert Walpole, ' who spoke two boors and a quarter, explaining end shewing the advantages of his scheme with v A LIST or the Members who voted for the EXCISE SCHEME. N.B. These a ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v8.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- efore us, I cannot comprehend, for I tan see nothing in the scheme that has the lqqst tendency towards producing an effect so 4qucl» to he wished for: op the contrary, it appears evident to me, that by this scheme, theport o [London, and all the other ports of the kingdom, will be sq for from being made free, that a| every ope of them the merchant will bq subjected to ipprq trouble and expense, both upon irppqrtp-tipp and exportation than ever be was before. It is true that upop thf importation of tobacco? the merchant waa formerly obliged to ppy down the whole duties, or give his bond with sufficient sureties for them; but this was never any hardship upon the merchant, because, if he had ready money, he advanced it for the prompt payment of the duties, and he had an allowance for so doing; which was but a reasonable allowance, considering how long he was sometimes obliged to keep his tobacco on his hands, before he met with a market either for borne* consumption or exportation, and how many months credit hp was often after that obliged, to give to the buyer; and if he had not ready money at command, he could formerly give hia bond for the whole duties with two sufficient sureties, whiph a map of tolerable credit could always e&siLy find; whereas by this scheme, it seems, every merchant-importer of tobacco must pay spate part of the duties at the entry, let him make what sb|ft he will for the money, which to a poor maq if a new hardship; and to a rich man the payment that part of the duties in ready money, is a greater hardship than the payment of the whole, considering tha^t be has no allowance for prompt payment, as tp that part of the duties which he is obliged to pay in ready moqey. 1 am surprised to hear any gentleman say, that brewers rngke no complaints on account of their be|qg sqbjected to the laws of excise; I do not know what sort of brewers those gentlemen may cpnvqrse with, but I never conversed with any w, bo did i\ot complain of it as a .very great grievance, nor did I ever meet with any one who could not. give very substantial reasons for their complaints. Thera are many particular ways by which.tjie officer *, of excise may be troublesome aqd vexfgjqug to the brewer» but there is one which is, generally practised all over tbq kingdom, and that i§* that tbosp oncers apt only gapge and take an, accoqpt of their liquors, but likewise, obljgg. the brewers to shew them their books as often astheyhayeammd.; by "ffimh opt oqjy pry into ah the secrets qqd mystefififc of their trade, but likewise into their circ«m* stanpes.and fortunes. Qqq qny gqptleman lqqk upon this aa npgrieyapcf) Is it upf a hardship, uppn any map to have the .secrets and myste* ries of hi* trad* exposed to every littln fallow, 'vh«m the commissioners of excise shall plea*# to put m authority over him ? Hufeigit nqt.stiib a greater hardship, ffir a, map to be obliged discover his circumsttmeas, to nne, who 1% apt utter stranger to ffim, : perhaps, to one who i * his moat implacable ep.emyf Th« honmirable gentlemmb I.fok wtat * hjmsfif mqph. upon the well increase of excise-officer* that is tg be matte by his sebum* > but then be seems to forget the warehouse’ keeper*; they, as weUaa the qthpr officers of excise, are all to be named by the crown, aaA* paid by the public?, consequently they VP Q«J> tainly tp bp called officers of the revenue: Tbey^ will be a? expensive tp the puhho, a future call upon them by the legislature, to make good the deficiency occasioned by the frauds of the sellers; so that by this method of taxation, a duty bas been laid on one subject, which another has by artifice not only prevented coming into the public purse, but has converted towards the supporting or enriching of himself. But there is another reason, which will have the greatest weight with me, for coming into this proposition, and that is, because I think, that in its consequences, the landholders of Great Britain will find a considerable relief. As long as I can reme/nber, I have always heard the land tax complained of, as one of the most unequal and most grievous of our taxes; unequal, as it is only paid by a part of those who possess property in Great Britain, and so great a disproportion is there in this particular, that as our property is now divided, I believe one may say, the money arising by this tax, is paid only by five out of six of those who possess the riches of this nation; and it has hitherto been the more grievous, as there was no prospect that any one of this generation, would have been relieved from the burthen of it. From land alone 64 millions and a half have been raised since the Revolution, and ah estate of 1,000l. a year fully cessed since that time, has paid 6, 450/. which sum amounts to near one sixth part of the whole produce of such an estate iu that time; so that by taking it at an average, the landholders of these estates thus cessed, have paid very near a sixth part of the gross produce of their estates for fourty-four years successively, which bears no manner of proportion to what has keen paid i by any other set of men, towards defraying the charges of the government since that time. This has always been most justly reputed a grievance upon the landholders, yet now when a scheme is offered, which as it appears to me, would be a certain relief to the landed interest, a new language, a new opinion has started up, and prevails at least without doors, that the lands of Great Britain should still continue to carry that burthen, which, till very lately, all mankind were unanimous, they ought to be relieved from. If some gentlemen may think there cam be any material weight thrown into the scale of the crown, by the addition of a few excise-officers, let them on the other side reflect on the relief given by this Scheme to the landholders of Great Britain, who always have bt-eu, and ever must be, in time of trial and necessity, the real and solid support of the liberties of the nation. And as the landed interest must be' allowed to be our principal strength, all attempts to invade our liberties must prove unsuccessful, while the'gentlemen of landed estates shall continue resolute, and retain sufficient force to op- 1523] PARL. HISTORY, OGeoiob II. 1731 pose any arbitrary designs: any thing there* fere, that tends to pat them upon a better footing, and to increase their substance, strengthens oar constitution in the aiost essential part; for this reason, when* the ease chat will be given to landholders is ia this view impartially considered, the addition of a few excisemen, with salaries of 40 or 50/. a year each, will not have that weight in this day's debate, which at first tight it might seem to carry with it. Sir, I have mentioned the advantages which, as it appears to me, will naturally arise tp the public revenue, to the fair trader, to the industrious planter, and to the landholder by this Scheme; and Pthiuk there is another benefit attending it, which gentlemen do not seem to give sufficient attention to, I mean the reformation that will be made on this occasion m the laws of excise; for tbodgh the extention of them, as they now stand might have been thought by some a strong objection to this Scheme, however beneficial in other respects it might prove to the public, yet I think the weight of this objection is greatly-removed, when we consider that the alteration now proposed will take away many of those powers, which’might in time to come have been abused to the oppression of the sabject. One of the most material objections I ever heard started was, the want of a proper appeal from the determination of the commissioners of Excise; but this 1 think is entirely obviated by the allowing of an appeal from those gentlemen to three judges chosen from the different courts in Westminster-hall; or from the justices of peace to the judges of assize in their respective circuits; who are to determine in a summary way, without either delay or any considerable expence to the parties concerned. Now whatever influence the nomination of these officers by the crown might have on their actions, or however regardless their power, being uncontroulable, might make them in their determinations, this check most prevent the execution of their intentions, were they inclined to abuse their power in favour of the crown; it will certainly make them more cantious in giving judgment, - when they shall know, when they nfeall reflect, that their judgments are liable11& be canvassed in superior court, where rto favour, where no interest? can screen an ill action:the judges to whom the appeal mast made, have their offices for life, and therefore cannot reasonably be supposed to' be biassed, so as to countenance any unlawful steps of the commissioners, let them be the favourites of any minister whatever, or let the party oppressed^ let the party complaining, be never so* obnoxious to*an administration. There is also another benefit that will attend the success of this Scheme, which is the repeal of an act made in the 11th year of the late* king, which obliges people to accuse themselves:As this is certainly a very great grievance, the repeal roast be a very agreeable relief to those who are subject to it, 2 hop# therefore^ if this question passes, when the 4 — Debate on Sir Robert Walpole’* [1324 blanks in the Bill come to be filled up in the Committee, those gentlemen, who may think that there are any unnecessary clauses id the lawn of excise, will take this favourable opportunity to have those laws reviewed; and by the addition of proper clauses to the Bill new to be brought in, to exteod the regulations of them id behalf of the subject, as far us may not leave the dirties under the management of the Commissioners dpen to gross frauds. Upon the whole, 1 believe the benefits pro* posed by this Scheme, by an improvement of the public revenue in preventing frauds, will bd a certain relief to the landed interest; and the only real objection that ever could be to such a design was the method by which it was to be effected: but that, I think, as I Said before, it in a great measure removed, by the mitigation of those methods of proceeding in excise-Jaws* which seemed most to infringe the liberties of the subject, and which alteration may, nay it designed to be extended to the other branches of the revenue, subject to the same laws. This Scheme therefore, as It is intended to be a review of the Excise Laws, and an amend* meat of the rigour of those parts of them When less severity would secure the duty to the public, appears in this light us much in favonlr of the subject as of the revenue; and as such, where it comes to be tightly apprehended, and the be* nefits attending it are fait and diffused through the whole nation, I believe it will soon take more favourable torn among the people: the ifi impressions of it that May now he industriously spread abroad, I should think, would soon sub* side and be forgotten. I beg pardon, Sir, for taking up so much more of yOar time (ban I at first intended. I nor# only add, that Since upon the examination1 of the particular Merits of this scheme, the a ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- aid Bill had been ordered to be brought in; and therefore it was moved. That the Bill should be withdrawn: but this passed in the negative, by 232 votes against 176: then a motion was made for adjourning, which likewise passed in the negative by 237 votes against 199: but at last it was resolved, That the Bill should be read a second time on the 11th instant, by 236 against 200. April 5. A motion was made for printing such a number of copies of the said Bui, as should be sufficient for the use of the members of the House: but upon the question’s being put, it was carried in the negative by 128 against 112. Petition of the City of London against the Excise Bill.~\ April 10. The Lord Mayor, Aldermen, ana Common-Council of the City of London, presented a Petition against the Excise-bill, setting forth: " That the Petitioners, on occasion of the Bill depending in this House, for repealing several subsidies and an Impost £ VOL. IX.] now payable on Tobacco of the British Plantations, and granting an Inland Duty in lieu thereof, presume, in all humility, to express to this House, as they have already done in some measure by their representation to their members, the universal sense of the city of London concerning any farther extension of the Laws of Excise:That the burthen of Taxes already imposed on every branch of Trade, however chearfully bom, is severely felt; but the Petitioners apprehend, that thi^ burthen will grow too heavy to be born, if it be increased by such vexatious and oppressive methods of levying and collecting the Duties, as they kre assured by melancholy experience, that the nature of all Excises must necessarily produce s That the merchants, tradesmen, and manufacturers of this kingdom, have supported themselves under the pressure of the Excise-Laws now in force, by the comfortable and reasonable expectation, that laws, which nothing but public necessity could be a motive to enact, would be repealed in favour of the trade of the nation, and of the liberty of the subject, whenever that motive should be removed; as the Petitioners presume it effectually is, by undisturbed tranquillity at home, and a general peace so firmly established abroad: That if this expectation be entirely taken, away; if the Excise-laws, instead of being repealed, are extended to other species of merchandize not yet excised; and a door opened for extending them to all; the Petitioners cannot, in justice to themselves, to the merchants, tradesmen, and manufacturers of the whole kingdom, and to the general interest of their country, conceal their apprehension, that the most fatal blow, which was ever given, will be given on this occasion, to the trade and naviga- [B] 3] 6 GEORGE II. tion of Great Britain: That that great spring, from which the wealth and prosperity of the public flows, will be obstructed, and the mercantile part of the nation become not only less able to trade to advantage, but unwilling to trade at all; since no person who can enjoy all the privileges of a British subject out of trade, even with a small fortune, will voluntarily renounce some of the most valuable of those privileges, by subjecting himself to the laws of Excise:That the Petitioners are able to shew, that these their apprehensions are founded both in experience and in reason; and therefore praying, that the House will be pleased to hear them by their Counsel against the said Bill." * * " The lord mayor of London, however, contrived to obtain a copy of the Bill, and laid it before the common council; who resolved to petition the House against the Bill, and prayed to be heard by counsel. The petition was patronised by sir John Barnard, and ordered to lie on the table; but their being beard by coun-cel was overruled by a majority of 17; The next day similar applications were made from the towns of Nottingham and Coventry. The order of the day being then read; for the second reading of the Bill, Walpole moved that it should be postponed to the 12th of June: as it was generally u ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19. Upon the motion of Mr. Perry, the House resolved, nem. con. That a Committee be appointed to inquire into the Frauds and Abuses in the Customs. Then it was farther resolved, That the number of the said Committee be twenty-one, to be chosen by ballotting. A Petition from the Dealers in, Tea, and Chocolate, against the - Lam, relating to those Commodities.'] April 20. A Petition of the druggists, grocers, and others dealing in coffee, tea, and chocolate, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, " That by an Act of the 10th year of King George 1. intitled, ' An Act for repealing the du- ties therein mentioned, payable upon * coffee, Ac. imported, ana for granting * certain inland duties in lieu thereof, Ac.’ the Petitioners were made to hope, that the duties arising from the said commodities would be better secured, and the interest of the fair trader better supported; but that the Petitioners had found themselves, from fatal experience, subjected to laws most oppressive and injurious to trade; were deprived of the privilege of Juries; subjected to the judicial determination of commissioners, and to the inquisition and inspection of persons unknown to them, who enterea their houses at pleasure, and to whom they were made accountable for all their dealings; and after having paid duty for their goods, had not liberty to sell the same without permits from the officers of excise, expressing the names and places of abode of the buyers and sellers; to the great damage of the petitioners, and the exposing the extent and circumstances of their trade to the said officers, and to whomsoever they thought fit to communicate the same; were subject to severe forfeitures for errors or neglect of entries in their books, which were absolutely unavoidable; and were moreover, by a clause in an act of the 11 th of king George I. liable to be examined upon oath touching the entries in their books, and in case of neglect or refusal were subject to heavy : That by these grievances the pe-httooert, as they conceived, were in a wwse condition than any of his Majesty’s subjects; and that the clandestine importation of tea was never at a greater Height than at the present time, to the prejudice of the revenue, and the ruin of the fair traders, who only were subject to those oppressive laws; therefore praying that the House would give them such relief, as to their great wisdom should seem meet." Then a motion being made, and the question put, That the Petition be referred to a Committee of the whole House; it passed in the negative, by 250 against 150. ' 3 Names of the Committee appointed to inquire into the Frauds of the .3 April 25. The lord Vere Beauclerck reported the names of the Committee, ap~ pointed to inquire into the Frauds and Abuses in the Customs, viz. sir John Cope, bart. MrSklutterbuck, sir William Clayton, bart. Mr. Stephen Fox, Mr, Edgcombe, Mr. Henry Pelham, sir John Heathcote, bart. sir Philip Yorke, Mr. Clayton, Mr. Anthony Lowther, sir George Oxenden, bart. Mr. Talbot, gen. Wade, Mr. Campbell of Pembrokeshire, Mr. Duncan Forbes, sir Tho. Frankland, bart. Mr. Winnington, lord Hervey, Mr. Doddington, Mr. Horatio Walpole, and sir William Yonge, bart. every one of whom had voted for the Excise-Scheme; but there having been two principal lists prepared on this occasion, the following are the Names of those Members who were proposed on the contrary side, every one of whom voted against the Excise Scheme. Mr. Walter Plumer, sir John Barnard, Mr. Gibbon, Mr. Palmer, Mr. Sandys, lord Limerick, lord Morpeth, Mr. alder- man Periy, Mr. William Pulteney, Mr. H. Fumese, sir Edward Stanley, baft. Mr. Thomas Wyndham, sir Francis Clukl, knt. Mr. Robert Dunda% sir William Wyndham, bart. Mr. George Compton, Mr. Edmund Waller, Mr. Edward Harley, Mr. William Noel, sir John Hynde Cotton, bart. sir Thomas Saunders Seabright, bart. * * " Whitehall, April 26, 17SS. I have al-ready given your excellency an account ofwie proposal made in the Hous ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Particular Man ['particular man']; Private Persons ['private persons']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nd fraudulent practices in the management of tiie affairs of the said Corporation. 7. " That George Robinson, late circulating cashier to the said Corporation, lias been guilty of many notorious breaches of trust, and many indirect and fraudulent practices, in the management of the affaire of the said Corporation. 8. " That John Thomson, late warehouse-keeper to the said Corporation, ha* been guilty of many notorious breaches of trust, and many indirect and fraudulent practices, in the management of the affairs of the said Corporation. 9. " That Richard Wolley, broker, and assistant to the said John Thomson, haa been guilty of many indirect and fraudulent practices, in relation to the aflairs of the said Corporation. 10. That Thomas Warren, broker, and assistant to the said John Thomson, i "d, \ to! r£ li. 4 * , 1 i a li * a*. J 49] relating to the Charitable Corporation. A.D. 1733. [50 bos been guilty of many indirect and fraudulent practices, in relation to the affairs of tJbe said Corporation.’ * Debate in the Commons concerning a Bill to prevent the infamous Practice op Stockjobbing.] April 30. An engrossed Bill, ‘ To prevent the infamous practice of Stockjobbing, ’ was read the tnird time, and a motion being made, That tiie Bill do pass; the same was opposed by Mr. Glanville, who stood up, and spoke as follows: Mr. Speaker; — There is, in my opinion, a very great hardship to be put, by the Bill now before us, upon the proprietors of the public funds. As the law now stands, a gentleman may sell his estate, a merchant or tradesman may sell his goods, every man may dispose of his property by a bargain for time, or in whatever manner he pleases: but by this Bill the creditors of the public, those who have put their trust in the public faith, are to be laid under a particular restraint; a restraint which they were no way subject to when they lent their money to the public; and from henceforth they must not dispose of their property, but in the particular manner by this Bill prescribed. I am, Sir, as great an enemy to stockjobbing as any gentleman in this House, and for preventing that pernicious practice I shall be glad to join in any measures, which are not destructive to public credit, and injurious to private persons, with respect to the free use of their property:but, a$ I think the measures proposed by this Bill will certainly be destructive of the one, and injurious to the other, therefore I cannot let it pass, without taking the liberty of offering my objections against it. It is in all cases a great hardship put upon people, to subject them to penalties, which may often by meer ignorance be incurred:but in this case, the hardship is the greater, because there are many proprietors of the public funds, particularly women, who cannot be presumed to be readers of acts of parliament: they put an entire confidence in their brokers, and, if «e broker happens to neglect some of the torma prescribed, the most innocent persons may be brought under great penalties. "*y»l may say, that if this Bill passes into ' k* "wa>'s be hi the power of two °T t"re brokers, to subject those that em-pJoythem to the severe penalties to be by this Bill; for if two brokers [VOL. IX.] should combine together, and enter in their books# bargain for time, as made between two of their correspondents, they might easily get a third person to combine with them, and to inform against the presumed buyer and seller; the brokers books sworn to by the brokers, whom they usually employed, would be a strong proof against them; and thus two innocent men might be brought to suffer severely for an agreement, which had never entered into either of their heads. It often happens. Sir, that a gentleman, who foresees that he shall have use for his money in three or four months time, is well satisfied with the price his stock then bears; he cannot then sell out his stock for ready money, because he does not know what to do with his money in the mean time: but as the law now stands, he may. take advantage of the then current price of stock, he may sell it out at that price, or perhaps at an advanced price to be delivered only whence knows he shall have occasion for the money; this he acquaints his broker of, and the broker may probably find him out a man who likes the then current price, and expects money to be thrown into his hands in three or four months, which he resolves to employ in that fund:in this case the buying and selling for time is convenient for both, and it is not to be questioned, but that many are encouraged to become purchasers of stock upon this very account; therefore the forbidding of any such agreement for the future, will not only prove to be an inconvenience to many, who are now possessed of stock, but will prevent some people becoming purchasers, which, of consequence, will do harm to the public credit of the nation. It is well known, Sir, that the chief support of the credit of our public funds is owing to the ready access people have, at all times, to the money they have there lodged: but this ready access will, by this bill, be made very precarious to all those, who shall hereafter be obliged to sell at once all the property they have in any particular fund: for, if the purchaser should fail to comply with his agreement, the seller cannot, upon the transfer-day, compound the difference with him, and sell out nis stock to another, in order to raise the money he has immediate use for: no, he must sue the man he sells to, and for that end he must make a transfer of his stock, which transfer must stand upon the books during the whole continuance of the [E] 81] 6 GEORGE II. t)ebate in the ComntoM on a Bill suit; he cannot in the mean time sell his stock to another, for if he did so, he would not be able to shew at the trial, that he had made a specifical performance on his part, and consequently he would certainly be nonsuited, and obliged to pay costs. lh.s. Sir, will be a most intolerable grievance upon all the proprietors of our public funds, and will make many of them resolve to turn their money to some qther use. I must be of opinion, that the making a law to prevent men’s coming to an amicable composition of any difference that may be between them, seems to me something extraordinary. This will be such a discouragement, that no man, I.believe, will chuse to become a purchaser of any of our funds, when he knows that he cannot afterwards sell out his stock, without exposing himself to the danger of being involved in a law suit, to which he is by law expressly prohibited to put any end by an amicable agreement: and if a purchaser should, by any disappointment, be disabled to comply with the purchase he had made, but was willing to pay down, in ready money, the difference, which might not, perhaps, amount to five pounds, it would be very hard to oblige him to stand out a law suit to the very last, which would cost him, at least, treble that money. That clause. Sir, of obliging a man to answer upon oath, in a case where great penalties may be incurred, seems likewise to me to be a very new and a very extraordinary sort of clause: for it is no way consonant to the spirit of our laws, to oblige any man to accuse himself t and as it lays a foundation for every person, that is inclined to be malicious, to bring a Bill in Chancery against any man, who is or ever was possessed of any of the public funds; it will consequently be a great discouragement to any man’s becoming a purchaser, or continuing to be a proprietor of those funds, and will of course tend to the destruction of all public credit. Another hardship I shall take notice of, is. Sir, that if this Bill passes, no man for the future can employ a merchant to buy or sell stQck for him; for if a merchant should be employed and should charge commission for his trouble, he would incur some of the penalties of this Bill; unless he kept a regular book, and fairly entered therein all such transactions, in the s ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Private Persons ['private persons']; Private Persons ['private person']; Private Persons ['private persons']; Private Persons ['private persons']; Private Persons ['private persons']; Private Persons ['private persons']; Private Persons ['private persons'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- vanced price of the shares they benight, or with a view to have a higher interest for their money, than what they were by law in titled to, and in either case they are almost as fraudulent as those who were the managers; for he that cheats, or extorts from a man a shilling, is as much guilty of fraud, as he that cheats him out of 1,0007. Indeed, as to the ladies, a great many of them may have been innocently drawn in by those, to whom they intrusted the management of their affiurs, or by those who, from the beginning, had a formed design of cheating them out of their money: their case is really to be pitied, but in my opinion, of all the Sufferers, they only are the proper objects of compassion, and therefore I hope, that whatever relief is to be given, will be confined to the fair sex only. Lord Tyrconnel replied: Sir; — I have as great a regard for the foir sex as the gentleman who spoke last, and with him I think, that they are really the greatest objects of compassion; but. Sir, let us consider, that many of those gentlemen, who have been undone. Have wives and daughters, and I cannot but look upon the wives and daughters of such men to be at least as great objects of compassion, as any of those ladies who have been undone by their own act and deed. Sir Charles Wager rose and said: Sir; — I must think, thatrthe only means we can think of for relieving the unhappy Sufferers in that Corporation, is to make a Lottery for their benefit; but I must like- wise be of opinion, thata Lottery of a million will be too large; I believe one of 500,000l. may be sufficient; and therefore I shall second the motion to the amount of that sum. Sir Joseph Jekyll spoke against the motion as follows: Sir; — Before we think of granting any money to the crown, or of granting money in any other way, for the relief of those Sufferers, we ought first to consider, whether or no we have any power or authority to tax the people, or to grant away the public money to* the relief of any private persons. I must really be of opinion, that we have no such power; we are indeed to dispose of the public money, but then we are to dispose of it for public uses; we are not to convert it either to our own use, or to the use of any private person: It is true, we have sometimes granted money to the king for the rewarding of private persons, but such grants have always been made for some services rendered by those persons to the public; and therefore, what money was in that way granted, was really for the us# of the public. Even the raising of money by a Lottery is raising money upon the people, and if any part of the money so raised is granted away to private persons, I must look upon it to be a converting the public money to the use of private persons, which I think we have no power to do; and upon that account, as well as on account of, the many inconveniences that attend Lotteries, I must be against the motion. Mr. Winnington spoke next in behalf of the motion: Sir; — I have always had a great regard for the opinion of the honourable and learned gentleman who spoke last, but I hope he will excuse me, if I say that I do not think the objections he has now made against the proposition in hand, are near so strong as those usually made by him. As to our power of granting money for the relief in question, I do not know what r»wer we may have in that respect; but am sure there are several instances, where? we have granted even a public tax for the relief of private persons. One such instance. Sir, is within my knowledge, and is so late, that every gentleman'in this House may remember it; that is, the case of the suitors in chancery, whose money had been lost by the misconduct- of the late lord chancellor, and the then 71] 6 GEORGE II. Debate relating to the Sufferers [7S masters in chancery:it is well known that this Mouse laid a tax upon the law, which I take to be a tax upon the people, because the whole is paid by the clients in that court, and not by the lawyers; and the money to arise by this tax was appropriated towards making good the loss, which the suitors in that court had sustained. Another instance of the same nature is that tax, which was granted for relief of the orphans within the city of London; and I believe several other instances could be given, if we were to examine the Journals of this House. — However, Sir, I do not take this to be the question now before us. It is not proposed to impose any tax, or to grant any money to the crown for the relief of those unhappy sufferers; for I cannot imagine how it can be thought, that the granting a lottery is either a tax or an imposition upon the public. By granting a lottery we do not oblige any man to pay towards it, no man is to be forced to become an adventurer; it is not really so much a grant of money, as it is a repeal in so far of an act of parliament lately made against private lotteries; for, if it were not for that stalhtc, the Charitable Corporation could of themselves set lip such a lottery as is now proposed:and as the making of that law was occasioned by the many frauds that were committed by the means of private lotteries, and the downright bites that were often put upon people under that name, the cause entirely ceases with respect to the lottery now proposed, from which no fraud or bite can be so much as suspected. Sir William Wyndham stood up, and said: Sir-; — As to the affair before us, I am afraid we are beginning at the wrong end. We are now in a Committee, to consider of ways and means for relieving such of the sufferers in the Charitable Corporation, as shall be deemed objects of compassion, and we are now going to resolve upon a certain sum to be appropriated for that relief^ before we know any thing about the sufferers; whether there be any, or how many of them there be objects of compassion; or what sura will be necessary for giving them a proper relief? All these questions ought, I think, to be resolved, before we proceed to grant any sum for that purpose, either by way of lottery or any other way. I am, Sir, firmly of opinion, that we have no power to lay on any public imposition for the relief of private persons; and to think of giving a relief by way of lottery, is to establish by law a new deceit, for the relief of those who have suffered by an old one. As to our having it in our power to relieve private persons by public taxes, the instances mentioned by the honourable gentleman who spoke last, are not at all to the present case. The suitors in chancery were in a very different situation from those we are now about to relieve: the court of chancery is one of* the public courts of the kingdom, and consequently is the same with the public; whatever money was put in to the custody of that court, was put into the custody of the public, and if any of it was purloined by those officers who are appointed by the public, there is no question but that the public is obliged to make it good:besides, those who had their money in that court did not voluntarily put it there; they were all obliged, contrary to their inclination, to leave it in that court; they could not get it out again without an order of court for that purpose; they could not so much as inquire in what manner their money was disposed of; whereas, with respect to the sufferers in the Charitable Corporation, they have no pretence of having trusted the public with their money; they voluntarily put their money there; they might have taken it out when they would, and they might have every day inquired into the management of it; so that what they have lost is entirely owing to their own act and deed, or at least to their own neglect; they have nothing but compassion to plead for granting them any relief from the public, and I am afraid, if we consider the public aright, and the loads it already labours under, we must conclude it is not in a proper condition for granting such large charities. That other instance, Sir, relating to the tax for relieving the orphans of the city of London, is still less to the present case; it is a local tax; it extends no tarther than the city of London; and it was most reasonable that the citizens of London should be obliged to make good the loss, that was sustained by persons who w ere under a necessity of trusting their money to them, or at least to the officers appointed by them. — Now as to ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rotestant succession to the crown of these realms, from the renewal of that union which gave birth to, and laid the foundation of, this inestimable blessing. " And we beg leave to assure your Majesty, that, to demonstrate our duty, zeal, and affection to your Majesty, and to testify the just sense we have of the singular merits, and eminent virtues of the Princess Royal, we will enable your Majesty to give her such a portion, as may conduce to her future happiness, and to the supporting her royal highness with honour ana dignity." Report or the Committee or ths House of Commons on the Fpauds of the Governor and Agents of the York Buildings Company.] May 10. The Commons took into consideration the Report from the Committee, to whom the Petition of the Proprietors of the Stock of the Governor and Company for raising the Thames Water in York Buildings, assembled in their General Court held at their house in Winchester-street, the 12th of January last. The Petition set forth, " That, for cany-ing on the Water-works of the said Company, and for purchasing several forfeited Estates in England and Scotland, as wett as for undertaking and managing severed mines, and other works and trade in Scotland, for the benefit of the said Company, several hundred thousand pounds were 79] 6 GEORGE II. Report relating to the - [80 raised, and paid in, by the Proprietors of Stock in the said Company; all or the greatest part of which money hath been embezzled and misapplied by the Frauds, and notorious misbehaviour of the present Governor of the said Company, and others, j who are, or have been, entrusted with the management of the affairs thereof, and j their agents; by which all the Petitioners j are become great sufferers, and many of i them reduced to the utmost poverty and j distress: And that, though the Petitioners have already discovered many of the said ! Frauds, yet they are unable fully to dis- ' cover all the persons concerned therein, or to obtain a redress of their grievances, without the assistance of this House; many of the servants and officers of the said Company being so far under the influence of the present Governor, that the Petitioners nave not been able to prevail on them to disclose such circumstances of the said Frauds as they are acquainted with; and most of the books of the Corporation, from whence any light might be obtained therein, being either secreted or kept, and made up, on purpose to prevent a discovery:And therefore humbly hoping, That the House, taking into consideration the extraordinary circumstances of their case, and how. far credit in general may be affected, if such prodigious embezzlements, and such manifest violations of trust, should go unpunished, will inquire into the state of the said Corporation, and the conduct of those who have, or have had the management of their affairs; and give such relief to the Petitioners as to the House shall seem meet." The Report of the Committee to whom the said Petition was referred is as follows: REPORT from the Committee, to whom The Petition of the Proprietors of the Stock of the Governor and Company, for raising the Thames Water in York Buildings, assembled in their General Court, held at their House in Winchester Street, the 12th day of January 1732, was referred. The Committee to whom the Petition of the Proprietors of the stock of the Governor and Company for raising the Thames water in York Buildings, assembled in their genera] court, held at their House in Winchester Street, the 12th day of January 1732, was referred, have with ail assiduity attended the evidence brought by the petitioners, in support of their general allegations, but, as that evidence has chiefly proceeded in a minute detail of a great number of facts, tending to prove many mismanagements of various kinds, by those who have successively had the direction of this company for upwards of thirteen years last past; it has drawn out the examination into an excessive length, and is notyet intire ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- not usual for any lord to •peak against a bill, unless it be with a design to oppose its passing in the form it ife in. After this die Bill was ordered to be committed, and then Lord Bathurst stood up and spoke thus: My Lords; — I did not before give your lordships any trouble, because I had not a mind to oppose this BHl which we have now ordered to be committed; for though I was of opinion, and I find I am not singular, that the sending up of such a Bill was both irregular and contrary to the orders of this House, yet I thought it was necessary to pass it, not only because of the desire I had to see all the current services of the year provided for, but likewise because of the great regard I had for that branch of the royal family provided for by this Bill: though, I must say, that I should have been glad to have seen that royal princess provided for by a particular Bill tor that purpose only; for wherever a grant is to be made by parliament in favour of any particular person, the doing of it by a clause lay, perhaps, have the same effect, but the doing of it by a Bill certainly shews a greater regard for the person to whom the grant is made. There is indeed a method, by which one house of parliament may be made to shew a very extraordinary regard to any particular thing provided for omy by a clause in a bill; this method has been practised, though I shall not say, my lords, it has in this case been practised; it is when either house of parliament has a Bill before them which they suspect may be thrown out in the other House, therefore, in order to carry it through the other House, they add a clause in favour of some thing, or some person which they know the other House will shew a great regard to; m such case, if that other House do pass such a Bill for the sake of that clause, it is certainly shewing a very extraordinary regard to the person in favour of whom that clause was thus purposely introduced. If I admit bad company into my House, for the sake of one particular man who happens to be among them, I certainly shew him a greater regard than if I admitted him single and alone; but he is little obliged to those, who put him upon the office of gaining admittance for such troublesome attendants. — However, my Lords, as to this part of the Bill I shall insist no longer upon it, my prin-clpal design is to take notice of the man- ner iii which the current service of the year is provided for by this Bill: it is indeed a very extraordinary method of providing for that service; a method which I shall never approve of: I have always looked on the Sinking-fund as a most sacred pledge for securing the payment of the debts of the nation, and for relieving the people from those many taxes and burthens they now groan under. Now, I find, that by this Bill, that sacred fund is to be robbed of 500,000l. at one stroke. There have been several large sums formerly stolen from that fund; but, I believe it was never before plundered of so large a sum at once, or in' so direct and open a manner as by this Bill is to be introduced; and therefore, I hope your lordships will come to some resolution for preventing any such practices for the future: it is now, my lords, really become necessary for us to signify to the other house our opinion, That the sinking fond ought never to be applied to any other purpose than that for which it was originally designed; and I think my lords, the best way of signifying such opinion, is, by having a resolution to that purpose entered upon the journals of this House; for which reason I snail take the liberty to move for a resolution in these or in some such terras That it is the opinion of* this House, that the sinking fund ought always for the future to be applied to the redeeming those taxes which are most prejudicial to the trade, most burthensome on the manufactures, and most oppressive upon the poor of this nation. Lord Carteret spoke next: My Lords; — I must upon this occasion declare it to be in my opinion, that th ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private person' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ttee of both Houses sitting during the recess of parliament, with power to send for persons, papers, and records, and without any restraint upon that power, would be a most terrible thing, and might be turned to the oppression of many of nit Majesty’s best subjects. — But granting, my Lords, that the appointing of such a committee, in the manner now proposed* is consistent with our constitution, yet, I believe, your lordships will allow, that it is a very extraordinary method of proceeding, and therefore never to be practised but in matters of the greatest consequence, and such as require the utmost dispatch, neither of which can be so much as pretended with respect to the afiair in hand. It is so far otherwise, that, in my opinion, there has nothing of a fraud appeared in the late management of the South-Sea Company’s affairs, from any inquiries we have made: It has, my lords, been made appear at your bar, that the produce of the late directors estates was all applied to the benefit of the proprietors, by paying off the Company’s debts; and if such application was made without the directions of a general court, it was only a mistake as to form, it was only neglecting to have that express approbation, which the directors might have had from any general court of that company; and as that was a public transaction, and well known to all the proprietors, their never having found mult with it in any general Court of that company, held since that time, is in .my opinion, a tacit approbation of what was then done. — But, my Lords, if it had actually appeared to us, that there had been frauds committed, if any of your lordships are suspicious of such a thing, you may, at the beginning of next session of Parliament, enter upon such an inquiry, and if you enter upon it at the beginning of a session, you may certainly finish it 149] of the South Sea Directors. A.D. 1733. [150 before the end of the session: In the mean tame neither the affair itself, nor the company, nor any private person, can suffer by the defay: It is not so much as suspected, that any gentleman, concerned in the late management of that company's affairs, will withdraw; and the books of the company, and all the papers and writings necessary for such an inquiry, must remain in the state they are now in ? It fa not to be supposed, that any of them will be altered, cancelled, or destroyed, because the affairs of that company are now under the management of a quite different act of gentlemen, who, of consequence, have the custody of all those books and writings, and who will certainly never permit any tiling to be done, that may involve them in the guilt of other men. In short, my Lords, whatever state the company's affairs may be in, as there does not appear to us any complaint among the proprietors of that company; since no application has been made to us by them, 1 can see no necessity for our entering upon it immediately, and, for that end, to make such an encroachment opon our constitution, as would be made by appointing a committee in the manner proposed, and therefore I cannot agree to it. The Earl of Chesterfield spoke as follows: My Lords; — - The appointing of such a Committee, as is now proposed, is, in my opmioD, no way inconsistent with our constitution, but, on the contrary, has been frequently practised, and is often necessary far preparing things to be laid before the next session of Parliament. From such a Committee there is nothing to be dreaded by any but those who have been guilty of crimes, and under a just and prudent administration criminals ought never to be left at ease; it ought always to be the lot of the guilty to be under continual fears and apprehensions; it is what they always will be, whether we appoint such a Committee or no. It will be impossible for this House, or any committee we shall appoint, to inspect and examine so many voluminous books of accounts, or to extract any thing tW may be dear and satisfactory, out of such a neap of confusion, duri ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t purpose. Yet the advantage to the unfair traders, by this fraud, is so great, and they are enabled thereby to give such large gratuities to the officers, who are their confederates, out of their unjust gains from the revenue, as several of the officers have not been able to resist, notwithstanding the hazard they run. In order to discover this fraud in general, your Committee endeavoured to find out, in the best manner they could, what the When the Tobacco is landed, the report of the master, the entry of the importer, the boek kept by die tidesman on coord, and the land waiters books, as soon as they are made up, are examined and compared by die jerque r. And by a late law passed in Virginia, the weights of the hogsheads are to be taken at shipping off there, and authentic duplicates to be transmitted hither, which are likewise compared by the jerquer with the entries and weights at importation. The like care is also taken, mutatis mutandis, in the several out ports. Notwithstanding which methods, your Committee have mil proof that very notorious frauds have been, and still are, committed on the importation of Tobacco. These frauds appear to your Committee, la general, from the observations they have made on the several accounts and other papers referred to them by this House, by others which they have since called for from the Custom House and the board of trade, and by the concurring testimony of sir John Randolph, Mr. Gilbert Higgin-aon, Mr. Edward Randolph, Mr. Bryan «ulpot, «ad Mr. Thomas Hyam, and this real weights of the hogsheads usually have been, at a medium, for a long course of years, in the plantations; and what might reasonably be allowed for waste in the voyage, before they came to be weighed at the Custom House. Sir John Randolph^ who was bom in Virginia, where he lived the greatest part of ms life, and since the year 1720, very well acquainted with the Tobacco trade, and who was lately sent over by the assembly of Virginia to represent the grievances the planters labour under, being examined, acquainted your Committee, that one of the greatest complaints they have, is the unaccountable difference m the weight of the hogsheads there, and at the scale in England. The Committee inquired of him what the usual weights were in Virginia; and he acquainted them that the usual weights were, at present, from 800 to 950 pounds, and that he believed they have weighed as much or rather more from the year 1715 to this time, for reasons which appear in his examination:that the utmost allowance, which he ever heard computed, as what might reasonably be made for waste, is 8 pounds on every hundred weight; hut that he does 159] 6 GEORGE II. not believe it can be so much, having lately had an account of his own from Bristol, where he finds a waste of no more than 15 pounds on ahogshead, which, on 800 pounds weight (which he informed your Committee those hogsheads in that account weighed one with another) is less than two pounds per hundred, and others who have been exact in weighing, are of the same opinion; notwithstanding which, he has known the difference in the factor's accounts with the planters, to be 200 pounds weight on a hogshead. That the hogsheads weigh upwards of 800 pounds weight, was fully confirmed by the manifests received from Virginia since May last. It'was impossible for your Committee to have so full evidence as to the weights of Maryland tobacco, no manifests of weights being sent from thence; but it appears strongly by living witnesses and other circumstances, that the hogsheads imported from Maryland do really weigh, at a medium, upwards of 700 pounds weight; which accounts of the several weights appeared to be as above stated, from the evidence of Mr. Higginson, who has been concerned 19 years in the tobacco trade, 7 years as an apprentice, and 12 years in extensive dealing on his own account, and who confesses himself well acquainted with the frauds and abuses, both in importation and exportation of ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ance, When the honourable gentleman on the floor first mentioned the case, which seems now to be the subject of debate; and though I had not looked into the Journals this morning, yet I could not but think it was impossible, that ever any House of Commons should have proceeded in the manner represented. I have now looked .upon the Journals of that and the proceeding session, and as I have the book in my hand, I shall from thence set that matter in a dear light. In the year 1726, his late Majesty sent an express Message to the House of Commons* then sitting, by which he acquainted them, that in order to prevent and frustrate such designs, as haa been formed against the particular interest of this nation and the general peace of Europe, he found it necessary not only to augment his maritime force, but to concert such other measures as might most effectually conduce to these desirable ends; and as these services would require some extraordinary expence, his Majesty hoped he should be enabled, by the assistance of parliament, to enerease the number of seamen then before voted and granted for * See Vol. 8, p. 516. the service of that year; and to enter into and make good such Engagements, as the circumstances and exigency of affairs might require. Upon this Message, the House of Commons, as in duty they ought* voted and presented an Address to his Majesty, that he would be pleased to make such addition to the number of seamen then before voted; apd to concert such other measures, as his Majesty should in his great wisdom think would best conduce to the security of the trade and navigation of this kingdom, and to the preservation of the peace of Europe; ana assured hia. Majesty that the House would effectually provide for, and make good all such expences and engagements, as should be made for obtaining those great and desirable ends. — At the beginning of next session, his Majesty, in nis speech expressly said, That as the expence he had in the preceding year been in a particular manner intrusted to make hod amounted to no considerable sum; and the public utility might again require ‘ the like services to be performed, he hoped they would again repose the same trust aqd confidence in him. To this the House of Commons in their Address of Thanks, * as expressly answer and promise, that they would repose such a trust and confidence in his Majesty as the public utility should require, and as his Majesty should find reasonable and necessary for carrying on the great work, in which his Majesty was engaged, for the interest and security of hia people, and the common cause of Europe. — Thus every gentleman may see, that the Vote of Credit agreed to at the end of thats ession, was not in consequence of a few general words in their Address of Thanks, in return to his Majesty’s Speech at the beginning of the session; but in consequence of an express demand in the Speech, and as express a promise in the Address of Thanks; and from thence, I think, every gentleman may see how vastly different that case is from what is now the subject of debate. Mr. Scroope stood up, and gave an exact account of the several Votes of Credit passed by the House; and declared it to be his opinion, that there was no occasion for any Amendment to the Address: hereupon Mr. Pulteney rose up again and said: * Sir; — The honourable gentleman, who * Sea Vol. 8, p. 533. 197] The Commons* Address of . A.D. 17S4. [198 spoke last, has in a few words explained how the several Votes of Credit have been granted; he and I do not differ much in our accounts; but the honourable gentleman, who spoke with the book in his hand, and set out with a promise of clearing that matter fully, has, in my opinion, and 1 believe, in the opinion of every gentleman who heard him, left the matter just where he found it; therefore 1 would advise him, for the future, to speak without book. — Can any gentleman imagine, that, in consequence of the paragraph of his late Mar iesty’s Speech mentioned by the h ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- confidence in his Majesty, if upon a new Message, it could be shewn them, that the public utility required it: but gentlemen found afterwards another use made of those general expressions; they were at the end of the session made the only argument for agreeing to a Vote of Credit; and lest the same thing should be again practised, we ought to be extremely cautious of putting any such general expressions in our Address of Thanks. — When I first stood /up, I said I had no intention of making a division or difference amongst us to day, and the honourable gentleman, who spoke next after me, said, he was glad to find me in that way of thinking. Sir, I am now in the same way of thinking I always was; and if other gentlemen think in the same way they have lately taken up, I am afraid we shall have many and great differences before this session can well be at an end. The honourable gentleman said he did not remember, whether the case of a Vote of Credit 1 mentioned was of a late or old date: alas. Sir, there are no such votes of oredit to be found of an old date; votes of credit of old were of a very different nature, they were never so much as asked, but for some particular purposes expressly mentioned; the sum was always limited; the parliament became sureties only for that sum; and an exact account was afterwards given to parliament to what purposes the money so granted was applied: but our late votes of credit have all been granted in the dark; we have granted sums unlimited without knowing to what uses the money so to be raised was to be applied; and we could never have any proper account, though often asked for, how the money was disposed of. — However, Sir, though I wish we may separate to day without any division, yet I hope we shall nave many days after this to enter into the consideration of affairs of very great consequence. The calamitous situation of our affairs both at home and abroad necessarily requires the consideration of parliament: there are many, many grievances both foreign and domestic, under which the nation groans at present, and which call loudly for redress; therefore, though we promise not to protract or prolong the session by unnecessary delays, yet I hope we shall not separate before we have taken all those matters properly under our consideration: the State of the Nation must be called for, and, I dare say, this House of Commons, which has shewn so much regard for their fellow-subjects, will envy any succeeding House of Commons the glory of redressing those many grievances we now labour under: on such an occasion, I hope, gentlemen will be emulous who shall attend best; and when such a spirit of liberty appears over the whole nation, I am convinced no man will dare desert his duty in this House, when affairs of such moment demand his attendance in parliament. The above Amendments not being insisted on, the question was put upon Mr. Campbell’s motion, and agreed to without a division: a Committee was also appointed to draw up an Address of Thanks accordingly. The Commons* Address of .] January 18. The said Address was reported to the House, and agreed to, as follows: " Most gracious Sovereign, u We your Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Commons of Great Britain in Parliament assembled, beg leave to return your Majesty our humblest 199] 7 GEORGE II. Thanks for your most gracious Speech from the throne. * We are truly sensible of your Majesty’s goodness; and hear with the deepest sense of gratitude the concern you are pleased to express, for the war unhappily begun in Europe; and acknowledge with the highest satisfaction this new proof your Majesty has given us, of your great wisdom in waiting at this nice and critical juncture, the result of the councils of those powers, who are more nearly and immediately interested in. the consequences of this war, before your Majesty makes any final determination for your •own conduct; not wondering, that the same prudence and precaution, the same concern and circumspection, that have guided and directed every step hitherto taken in your Majesty’s happy and auspicious reign, should now induce you to take time to examine the facts alledged on both sides, and to concert with those Allies, who are under the same Engagements with your Majesty without haying taken part in the war, particularly the States General of tile United Provinces, such measures, as shah be thought most adviseable for the common safety, and for restoring the peace of Europe " That your Majesty in all yonr tra ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Distemper (grievance metaphor) MATCH TEXT: 'distemper' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ns will certainly inform us, and from thence we may know a little more of our present situation than we do at present:but I find, if the opinion of some gentlemen prevail, we are to have no information* at all; and in that case, how we can answer his Majesty’s expectations, who desires our advice and assistance, I leave to every gentleman to judge. — The honourable gentleman, who spoke last but one, talked of prophecies, ana asked what those prophets had prophesied: had they, said he, prophesied this ? or had they prophesied that ? What prophets or prophecies he means I do not know; but I may say, that without any great spirit of prophecy, the moment you separated the courts of Vienna- and Spain, every thing that has since happened might have been easily foretold. The gentleman likewise talked of Pamphlets; I have likewise seen a pamphlet, lately published, and whether from the stile it is wrote in, or the perplexity in the way of thinking which is discovered in every part of it, I think I can 193 7 GEORGE II. Debate on the Instructions given to [220 be almost certain as to the Author Of it. Here he gave a description of the person e supposed to be the author of it.} The whole of this fine performance results in this, That the nation is in a very bad situation; something must be done, but what is to be done the author does not know. If we do one thing, we are still in the same situation we were before, perhaps worse; if we do another thing, our case will still be the same: in short, he at last leaves us in the same wretched condition he found us; upon which. Sir, I must suppose this case: suppose a physician to have a patient for some time under his hands; the patient lingers and decays, and at last finds nimself in so low and weak a condition, that he begins to despair; the physician is sent for; Uie patient complains and asks what is to be done; the doctor answers gravely, Sir, you are indeed in a very bad state: there are but two or three ways of treating your distemper, and I am afraid neither of them will do; a vomit may throw you into convulsions, and kill you at once; a purge may give you a diarrhsea, which would certainly carry you off in a short time; and to bleed you, Sir, I have already bled you so much, and so v often, that you can bear it no longer. In such a situation, would not the patient probably exclaim against his doctor, and say. Sir, you have always pretended to be a regular physician, but I nave found you an arrant quack; I had an excellent constitution when I first came into your hands, but you have quite destroyed it; and now I find I have no other chance for saving my life, but by calling for the help of some regular physician. — But, Sir, to be altogether serious, for the subject is really of a very serious nature; if gentlemen have a mind to do something for the safety of the nation in our present melancholy circumstances, and seriously to ask the advice and assistance of parliament, those things that are necessary for our information must not be denied: their being refused by a majority, which seems to be almost the only argument urged by gentlemen who oppose these motions, will not have any weight with the nation; gentlemen, it is true, must acquiesce in what is done by the majority, but it will not have all that force without doors, as some may imagine. I know, Sir, it is not allowable to say any thing against what is done by a majority of this House; but there are certain methods of speaking, which are not against order, and which might, notwith- standing, make gentlemen feel, that an answer could be given, even to that unanswerable argument, of its having been done by a majority. — I have known, in former parliaments, most scandalous things done by a corrupt majority; any thing’s being done or resolved on by a majority, even of this House, will not make it right, nor convince the nation that it is so. We know what opinion the whole nation had of that wicked scheme, which was before us last session; we ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t the duty arising from Tea would be better secured to his Majesty, and the interest of the fair trader be better supported, buthave'fatally experienced the contrary effects; the clandestine importation of Tea being greatly increased, to the damage of the public revenue, and ruin of the fair trader, occasioned by the great difference of the value of that commodity at this and foreign markets, whereby the smugglers are enabled to purchase it abroad for less than half the duty paid here: that the regulations which the petitioners are laid under, * The Magazines, the Historical Register, and other collections, of this |>eriod, for want of information, are often erroneous in parliamentary affairs: for instance, they say there was no division upon this question, though the Journals of the House of Commons expressly say there was. 237] Petition against the Excise A.D. 1734. [238 are most burthensome and grievous, their houses being liable to be entered by persons unknown to them, and their properties subjected to the judicial determination of commissioners:that the petitioners are liable to severe penalties for errors and omissions absolutely, unavoidable, and restrained from disposing of their goods, after having paid duty for the same, without permits from the officer of the inland duties, expressing the names and places of abode of the respective buyers ana sellers, exposing thereby the extent and circumstances of their trade; whereby the petitioners conceived they were in a worse condition than any other of his Majesty’s subjects, and therefore praying the House to take the premisses into consideration, and give them such relief as to the House should seem meet. This Petition was presented by Sir John Barnard, who spoke in favour of the same as follows: Mr. Speaker; As this Petition is the same with that presented to this House last session, I need not take up much of your time in opening it to the House. The petitioners apprehend they labour under very great grievances, by their being subject to the laws of excise; and as this House, in the very last session of parliament, thought it unreasonable to subject some other sorts of traders and dealers to those oppressive laws, the petitioners think they have reason from thence to conclude that this House will be ready to relieve them from those burdens^ — 'The chief objection made to the petition last year was, that it was signed only by a few, and those not the most considerable dealers in that commodity, but now this objection is intirely removed: for I am sure there is not a considerable dealer within the city of London, who has not signed this petition. The great frauds committed in the running of tea, which are daily increasing, are now become a very great and a general grievance, not only with respect to the public, but to the fair trader: It is impossible for a man, who honestly pays the heavy duties upon the commodity ne deals in, to sell so cheap as the smuggler may do, therefore, if some stop is not speedily put to that infamous practice, we may expect in a few years the whole trade of the kingdom, so far as relates to our home consumption, will be got into the hands of smugglers only, and me retailers who buy from them. It was expected that the al- teration made some years ago in the method of collecting those duties, would have prevented this infamous practice: When that project was first set on foot, I remember, some people assured us, it would entirely put an end to smuggling; but experience has taught us the contrary; for since that alteration it has been much more general than before; so that we have subjected a great number of our fellow-subjects to infinite hardships, without gaining thereby any benefit to the public. — As this practice of smuggling, which has of late so milch increased, must be likewise a considerable detriment to the public revenue, the petitioners hope we shall take tho affair again under our consideration, and endeavour to contrive some methods for Sreventing this infamous practice for the lture; If then the relief of a great number of our fellow-subjects from grievances they justly complain of, if the encouragement of the fair trader, if the increasing of the public revenue, are considerations which ought to weigh with a British parliament, I am sure the case now before us, in which all three are joined, deserves the utmost regard of this House; therefore I cannot doubt of the petition’s being referred to a Committee. And when we go into that Committee, several gentlemen will offer their opinions and propose expedients for the relief of the petitioners, as well as for the advantage of the revenue: But as these things cannot properly come now under our consideration, I shall hot give the House any farther trouble at present, but only to move, That the Petition may be referred to the consideration of a Committee of the whole House. The above motion being seconded by Mr. Peny, Mr. Winnington stood up and spoke as follows: Sir; I can by no means agree with the two honourable gentlemen in the motion they have made. The relieving any of our fellow-subjects from grievances they justly complain of, the encouraging of the fair trader, and the increasing the public revenue, are matters indeed of a very great concern, and always deserve the utmost attention of this House, when they are regularly and properly brought before us; but I cannot think that this petition can properly bring either of them before us, nor can I think it is now a proper time to go into a Committee upon this or any other such petition. There is nothing that 4 239] 7 GEORGE II. Debate on the Tea [240 can be proposed in consequence of this Petition, but what may diminish the public revenue, and as we are in a manner now just upon the brink of a war, I think it would be very unwise in us to do any thing that may possibly diminish that revenue, for which we may soon have so great an occasion. — As to the infamous practice of smuggling, and the frauds committed in that branch of the public revenue, which the Petition relates to, believe, every gentleman would willingly do something to prevent it, if possible; but the method, proposed by this petition, appears really to me in a very strange light; It nas been found, they say, that the laws of excise, joined with the laws of the customs, have not been effectual for preventing all those frapds; and therefore gentlemen propose, that we should take off one of these checks; and indeed, that which must be acknowledged to be the most effectual of the two, in order to prevent running for the future. I need not say any thing to convince gentlemen, that this proposition cannot be supposed to tend to the encouragement of the fair trader, or to increase the public revenue: As to the petitioners, if they are all fair traders, they must acknowledge, it would be so far from giving them relief that it would intirely ruin them. — I should be glad to hear any thing proposed for the benefit of the fair trader, or security of the public revenue: But for us to go into a committee upon that subject, when no gentleman of this House can say that there is any particular method or scheme to be proposed, would be taking up the time of the House to no purpose. Besides, if there were really any schemes to be proposed to us for putting an end to frauds and smuggling, it is not now a proper time for us to enter into the consideration of them; for as it is now the last session of a parliament, and considering the present posture of affairs of Europe, it must be presumed that the short time we have to sit will be taken up in matters of very great weight, and which require a more immediate consideration, there cannot be any great inconvenience in nutting off this affair to another session: ana therefore I must be against the motion now made, and shall move, That the Petition may be ordered to lie upon the table. Mr. Perry replied: Sir; When this motion was made by my honourable and worthy friend, I did Cot apprehend it would have met with any opposition; therefore I gave the House no other trouble than just to second the motion:But now I hope I shall be indulged a few words in support of it. It has always been my opinion, that while we sit here, no time can be improper for our taking into our consideration a petition signed by such a number of considerable traders:The hearing of complaints from the subjects, and the redressing of their grievances, I have always understood to be a chief part of the business of parliament; ana I am sorry to hear it said in this House, that any time is improper for such a consideration, especially w lien it is not so much as pretended, that the complaints are frivolous, or that the petitioners are inconsiderable. — The honourable gentleman spoke of our being on the brink of a war, and therefore thought it unwise for us to attempt to do any thing that might lessen the public revenue: I believe no gentleman in this House means to lessen the public revenue; the very end of the motion now made is to endeavour something that may increase the public revenue, by preventing those frauds by which it is greatly diminished. The gentleman al^ lows, that the laws of excise and customs, when joined together, are ineffectual for preventing the running of tea; but thinks it strange, that the taking off one of those checks should be proposed as a method for the preventing of running for the future, and it would be so if this were the only method; but there may be some method proposed, if we go into a committee upon this affair, which will render the law’s of the customs singly more effectual against smuggling than both the laws of excise and customs have been: In such case it will not appear strange to give a relief to many of our distressed countrymen, by freeing them from the oppressive laws of excise. If gentlemen will examine this affair a little, they will find, that by adding the laws of excise to the laws of the customs, they have neither given a check to smuggling, nor increased the public revenue, in proportion as the consumption of that commodity has increased of late years w ithin this kingdom. In 1716, the duty upon Coffee and Tea amounted to but/ sixty odd thousand pounds: From 1716 to 1*724« that duty continued subject only to the law’s of the customs, and yet so greatly did our consumption increase w ithin that time, that in the year 1723 the duty amounted to 112,000l. near do ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s. The smugglers now travel 30 or 40 together, well armed and provided for a desperate defence; they carry their goods from house to house, and actually murder the King’s officers: this dangerous method they have been reduced to by the laws of excise, and will any gentleman desire to have that check removed, which has laid them under so great difficulties ? — Gentlemen say arguments are not offered against what they propose, or at least only such as are general; but, I think it has always been the custom, when any thing new is offered, those who are for it give their reasons, and if those reasons cannnot be sufficiently answered, the House then agrees with the motion. Now I wish those gentlemen would give us some particular arguments in support of what they propose, agree upon some particular facts, ana then the gentlemen, who seem to be of a contrary opinion, would be able to debate the question fairly with them; but since they have not been able to agree on many facts, or to give us any particular reasons for referring this petition to a committee, I must conclude that even they themselves are not prepared for taking it into consideration; therefore I hope it will be ordered to lie on the table. Mr. Sandys replied; Sir; The honourable gentleman, who 6poke last, desired we might agree on particular factst and argue from those facts. This would be a proper and a reasonable demand, if we were now in a committee upon the petition; but as the only question before us is, whether or no wo shall go into a committee, I cannot think, that is either proper or reasonable. It is acknowledged, that the practice of smuggling is come to a very great height, and I believe it will not be denied, but that all those who are subject to the laws of excise are under a g*reat many inconveniences, which their fellow subjects not liable to such laws are free from:This alone ought to be a sufficient inducement for us to go into a Committee; for in most cases petitioners, who complain of grievances, aro to prove the facts they alledge before the committee; and petitioners are generally referred to committees upon suggestions only of grievances, which ought to be redressed; but the case now before us is much stronger, the facts alledged by the petitioners are allowed to be true, and the grievances complained of such as ought to be redressed; yet some gentlemen are against so much as taking their petition into consideration. If this be treating our fellow-subjects as they ought to be, I leave to the whole world to judge; but, upon thepresentinga petition, and upon a debate whether that petition ought to be referred to a Committee, to desire gentlemen to agree upon particular facts, especially when the facts must all be such as cannot be known to any but those in the management of the public revenue, is really unreasonable; it is desiring gentlemen to agree upon facts which it is impossible for them to know, until they can in a proper way have an opportunity to inquire into them. If the House should agree to go into a committee upon this petition, I do not doubt but such papers will be called for. 245] Petition against the Excise Lam. A.D. 1734. [240 as will make it appear by undeniable matters of feet, that not only the petitioners ought to be relieved, but that something must be done for putting an end to the infamous practice of Smuggling: so that our not being able at present to fix upon any particular facts, is so far from being a reason against, that it is a strong reason for our referring this petition to th? consideration of a Committee. The petitioners have very just grounds to hope this House will take oft* from them those shackles, we most justly refused to put upon the dealers in wine and tobacco: they have as good a title to all the liberties and privileges of Englishmen as any other subjects, and I can see no reason for distinguishing them from the rest of their countrymen. In the present case gentlemen need not be afraid of making a precedent, and laying a foundation for a great many petitions; there are no dealers in England followed by the laws of excise as the dealers in tea are, except only the dealers in brandy; therefore, the giving ear to the heavy and just complaints of the petitioners, can lay no foundation for a multitude of petitions being brought in upon us from the dealers in other commodities; for though there are other commodities subject to the laws of excise, yet those go no farther than the first manufacturer; they do not follow the commodity into the little shops and cellars of every petty retailer. Gentlemen tell us, that we are to have matters of much greater weight before us, which require a more immediate consideration, and which will take up the whole of that short time we have to be together. I .know nothing of greater weight than that of effectually securing the public revenue, encouraging the fair trader and relieving our fellow-subjects from the grievances they labour under; and I wish the gentlemen would inform the House, what it is they think a matter of much greater weight. I am sure, if we are upon the brink of a war, it renders it much the more necessary for us to take the petition into our consideration: as the war can be supported only by the public revenue, if we are in such danger, it is the more incumbent upon us to take all possible methods to secure and increase that revenue; and as in time of war the fair trader labours under many discouragements abroad, it will become the more necessary to take care that he shall labour under as few as possible at home; and if we are threatened with a war, it is the business of this House, and of every man who wishes well to the present establishment, to be more diligent than usual in conciliating the minds of the people to his Majesty’s government, which can only be done by removing their grievances as soon as we hear them:thus, every argument that has been offered against going into a Committee, when duly considered, appears to be a strong argument in favour of the motion; therefore, unless some more weighty arguments be offered, I am persuaded tho House will not reject it. Mr. Philip Gibbon spoke next: Sir; I stand up to agree with my worthy friend, in the motion he made for referring this petition to a Committee of the wholo House; and as I have not yet heard any one argument against it, I shall not take up much of your time. I have indeed heard gentlemen argue against what they imagine may be proposed when we go into it, which to me seems a very preposterous way of arguing; they first form to themselves hideous notions of what is to be proposed in that Committee, and from thence they resolve to be against going into any such Committee. I would be as unwilling, as any gentleman in this House, to do any thing at the present juncture for lessening the public revenue, and I am far from believing any such thing is intended to be proposed; yet if I did believe it, I should be willing to hear what gentlemen had to say upon that head, and therefore would not be against giving them an opportunity, especially in acase every man allows to stand very much in need of redress. — I am of opinion, those gentlemen who shew so very great a concern for the revenue, need not be so much Afraid that the giving a proper relief to the petitioners would diminish the public revenue; for I believe when proper papers and accounts are called for, and the matter fairly and fully examined, it will appear that the revenue has been no great gainer by the alteration some time ago made in the method of collecting the duty upon Tea:I believe it will then appear, that the increase of the public revenue has not near kept pace wdth the increase of the consumption; so that if those gentlemen have really nothing else to fear but a decrease of the public revenue, they need make no difficulty of relieving the petitioners. Gentlemen say, the session is to be but short, and therefore we have not time to enter into the consideration of this affair; upon which I must say, those who 247] *7 GEORGE IL Debate on the Tea [24#" talk so, seem to have forgot one of the | chief ends of our meeting here: the usage ! of Parliament anciently was, to grant no | supplies till all grievances were first re- I dressed, but the method seems now to be entirely altered: gentlemen find time enough to load themation with many and heavy taxc&, but can spare no time, it seems, to relieve the people from any burthen or grievance they justly complain of. They who talk 60, must certainly nave much more assurance than I am master of: 1 wonder how, after such a declaration, they can with confidence look their constituents in the face, far less expect that they should a^ain do them the honour to send them hither. Those gentlemen really talk of this House, as if they looked on it as a register for taxes, and as if we had nothing to do here but to grant to the crown what sums the ministers should please to call for: I hope, we are not yet dbme to such a low pass; I have still a better opinion of this House than to believe, that you will reject a motion so reasonable and so necessary. Mr. Walter Plumer said: Sir; I am so sensible of the grievances of the petitioners, and the necessity of doing something to put a stop to that growing evil of Smuggling, that I have been in expectation of this petition ever since the session began. The time I spent in the country, during the last recess of parliament, happened to be where I had occasion to see a great deal of that infamous practice; so that if there was no other motive for going into the committee proposed, than that of endeavouring to do something to prevent Smuggling, that alone with me would be a prevailing motive; and for that reason I am surprized to see the motion opposed by any gentleman; much more by those gentlemen, who must know much more than I do of the great increase and fatal effects of this infamous ractice. In the county of Suffolk, the smugglers went about in such formidable bodies, that if something is not done to put a stop to it, they may soon threaten danger even to our civil government: I have often met them in gangs of 40 or 50 together all so well mounted, that even the dragoons could not come up with them; and they give such excessive wages to the men that will engage with them, that the landed interest suffers considerably by it: The common price of a day’s labour in that country is already got up to 18<& and. even at that price, it is with great difficulty that the farmers can get labourers; and how can it be otherwise? For all the young clever fellows of the county are employed by the Smugglers; from them they have half a crown a day while they wait upon the sea-coast for the landing of the goods, and as soon as the goods are landed, and they mount on horseback to go about the country to dispose of them, they have a guinea a day, and are well entertained during their attendance: Thus they find a much easier and more profitable employment than any they can nave from the farmer, and while they are thus employed, all improvements of land must remain in suspence. Gentlemen may talk of the great check put upon smuggling, by the joining ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t of Great Britain. I am amazed to find that some gentlemen do not see how much the revenue suffers by the practice of Smuggling, and though I do not expect that they should take any great care of the subject, yet I hope they will take some care of public revenue, since they have the fingering and managing of it. Upon the whole, I must say, if we have any regard for the subjects in general* for the £19] Petition against the Excise Law, A.D. 1734. [250 trade of this nation, for the public revenue, for the landed interest, particularly the tillage; we certainly must agree to go into this Committee; 1 am sure nothing more worthy of our consideration can possibly come before us; therefore I shall be most heartily for the question. Mr. Henry Pelham spoke against the Petition: Sir; I cannot say, indeed, upth the gentleman who spoke last, that I have beenvin daily expectation of this Petition; on the contrary, 1 was in hopes, as the sense of this House had been taken upon it last session, the Petitioners would have chosen a more proper time for renewing their request, than when we are upon the brink of a war. Our situation is at present such, that to do any thing which might possibly lessen the public revenue, would be acting otherwise than this House ought to do; the presenting it at such a critical juncture, seems really done with no other view, but that of reviving those clamours and disturbances, which were lately so artfully stirred up over the whole kingdom. It is impossible to talk either for or against committing a Petition, without entering some way into the merits of it, and into what may be expected to be done in that Committee:In this, if there is any irregularity, the gentlemen who have spoke for referring the Petition to a Committee, have been as guilty as those who spoke against it; but m my opinion, there is nothing more proper to be considered at present, than whether or no there can possibly be any thing proposed in that Committee, for redressing the grievances complained of in the Petition; for if no present redress can be thought of, it would not be very consistent with the dignity of this House, to go into a Committee upon any aHair, only to stare at one another, and then to break up without hearing any thing proposed, or coming to any one resolution; and as yet I have heard nothing mentioned, nor so much as hinted at for us to do in that Committee, but what might probably diminish the public revenue, which is a risque we ought not to run at present. I am very sensible of the great enormities committed by the Smugglers, especially in the adjacent counties. The open ana outrageous manner in which they carry on their frauds is well known; but that method of smuggling is much more expensive, difficult, and dangerous, than the private way they bad at* carrying on that practice, before the laws of the excise were joined to those of the customs; it is like* wise well known, how many seizures have lately been made, and how many of those smugglers have been quite ruined and undone; tins must necessarily discourage any new undertakers in that way, and will certainly put an end to that practice. I shall not now pretend to say, what increase has been made to the public revenue, by subjecting tea, coffee, and chocolate to the laws of excise, but it is certain that branch of the revenue has been since that time increased, and I cannot think but there was more smuggling before than since that alteration was made; there were not indeed so many seizures made before, nor was smuggling formerly carried oo in so open or so violent a manner; so that it has since made a great deal more noise, and from thence most people conclude, falsely I believe, that smuggling has lately increased. — It is true, most of tnose things now under the laws of excise, are not so much followed after as tea, which indeed makes a difference as to die number of persons who are thereby subjected to the Excise laws; but as to those who by their being manufacturers of such other commodities, are subjected to such laws, they certainly have as much reason to complain of grievances, as the dealers in coffee and tea can possibly have; and therefore they have as good reason to apply to parliament for relief. Have not the malsters, brewers, soap-boilers, and a great many others, as good a title to all the liberties and privileges of Englishmen, as the dealers in coffee and tea, or any other subjects? and the .reason for distinguishing both from the rest of their countrymen is, because the public utility and the nature of their business, make it absolutely necessary to do so; If we then take the case of the petiti-tioners into our consideration, can we ex* pect but all the other sorts of traders, who are, or imagine themselves in the same circumstances, will not apply to us for relief ? and will it be consistent with the jus-/ tice of parliament, not to take their cases under our consideration, as well as the case of the petitioners I thus shall we open a door for a great deal more business, than we shall have time to dispatch in this session or in this parliament. In the present case, gentlemen ought to consider, that the duties upon coffee and tea are appro* printed to the payment of the public debts; and therefore, before we attempt any alteration, as to4he method of collect * 251] 7 GEORGE II. Debate on the Tea Dealers' ' [252 mg it, or any thing that may possibly diminish it, we ought to have the consent of those who are interested therein; and in case of a diminution we ought to be well assured of the means to make it up in another way. I have always had, and shall have as great a regard to the interest of the subject, as any member of this House; and I do not doubt but the honourable gentleman who spoke last has the same: but I never could think the taking care of the subject, and of the public revenue, were distinct considerations; they are certainly the same, and in all our deliberations in this House we ought to have a regard to both. I agree, that something majr, and ought to be done, for putting an immediate stop to the present pra ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Particular Man ['particular man'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ition was signed but by a few of the dealers in that commodity: but this objection being now intirely removed by the gentleman who presented the petition, they are obliged to have recourse to the other objection, which they then made use of. In last session they told us, this session is near an end, we have not time now to enter into the consideration of the matters complained of in the petition, but next session it shall be done. Now we are in the next i session, and in the beginning of the session too, they cannot tell us the session is near an end; but they say, this session will be but short, and as it is so near the close of a parliament, we cannot now enter into the consideration of this affair, but it shall be done next parliament. \Vhat arrant trifling is this ? can gentlemen expect that this House will be treated in such a manner ? who is the gentleman can promise, that this will be done next parliament I can he, who fancies himself the greatest man amongst us, be sure of having a seat in next parliament I or if he has, can he be sure that his power and sway will be the same ? but why should this be but a short session i There is no necessity, that I know of, for putting an end to the session so soon; if there is, why did they not call us sooner? those in the administration have the sole advising of his Majesty, and it lies wholly in his breast when to call us together, as well as when to put an end to the session. Shall our trade then lie exposed to fraud and smuggling ? Shall our fellow-subjects continue to groan under loads of oppression, only because they are resolved this session shall be a short one I The honourable gentleman, who spoke last, seemed to think that this petition was presented with a view only, as he said, to revive the clamours, and renew the disturbances that were last year without doors. This I am surprizedat i Shall our oppressed countrymen be accused of having a design to raise disturbances, when they complain to parliament of the grievances they labour under ? Shall those who sue to us in the most humble manner, and pray that we would take their case into consideration, and give them some relief if possible, be deemed seditious ? No, they cannot be so much as suspected of having any such design; but if the present motion be rejected, it will, and it ought to revive those clamours, and renew those disturbances, which were last year most justly raised over the whole kingdom, by a most wicked scheme which was proposed in this House: the nation will from thence most justly conclude, that the scheme then set on foot is not yet laid aside; they will have reason to fear, that an honourable gentleman may perhaps be able to persuade gentlemen, at the beginning of a seven years parliament, to agree to that wicked scheme, which he could not persuade them to agree to immediately before a new election. If our fellow-subjects were intirely relieved firom the oppression of excise-laws, it might not perhaps be so easy to saddle us with them again; but the gentleman is resolved to preserve this as a nest-egg, as a foundation to build on, whensoever ne has a mind to take up again his favourite scheme. Gentlemen seem to be in a fright, as if the public revenue were to be diminished or taken away; but I am convinced their fears are groundless; all that is desired is, that we would go into a Committee, that we would take the affair once serious- 255] Petition against the Excise . A.D. 1754. [254 Iy into our consideration, to see if any thing can be done more effectually to secure the public revenue than it is at present^ and at the same time to grant some relief to those who petition for it, and have a right to expect it. This will give us a title to return to our constituents with some confidence; and 1 can see no reason why we should leave to any future parliament the honour of doing a work, which will be of such signal service to their country and to their fellow-subjects: the grievance now complained of was, without doubt, the •foundation of that wicked scheme which we had last year before us; and 1 am convinced, no gentleman who had the honour of opposing that scheme, will agree to the rejecting of the present motion; otherwise the House must be much changed from what it was when an honourable gentleman on seeing the minority daily increase, and the majority sicken away, was at last forced almost with tears in his eyes, to give up his favourite child, of whom he seemed to have a most extraordinary opinion, when he said, 4 That gentlemen, who envied him * other things, would some day or other * envy him the honour of that project. ’ I am persuaded he still entertains the same good opinion of it, and waits only for a proper opportunity to renew it; for which reason he is unwilling that we should go into such a Committee as is now proposed, lest we should sap all the foundations of any future project for a farther extension of the excise-laws. Sir Robert Walpole replied: Sir; If I were to follow the gentleman, who spoke last, in all he has said, I must inti rely neglect the question before us; but of late it has become so fashionable for gentlemen to run away from the question, and say every thing their fancies suggest to them, that it is impossible to give them any answer, and keep to the order of__________0__________v , debate. I cannot comprehend how I come | parliament may, ’ if they please, take the to be any way personally concerned in the 1 affair into their consideration; and I think present question, yet most of w hat the j it is an affair of such consequence, that it gentleman said seemed in a particular man- j will be morejproper to enter upon it in the ner to be directed at me, which indeed j beginning ofa new parliament, than at the is a subject I always speak to with the j very close of an old one. It has been pre-greatest unwillingness, as it is very little tended, that the alteration made some worthy the attention of this House. As to ! years ago, as to the method of collecting those clamours which were lately, or have; the duties on tea, has not prevented the ness, that after ten years endeavours for that purpose, no objection could ever be made to my conduct, except what proceeded from something I had proposed or moved for in this House. I am not conscious to myself that I ever proposed any thing in this House, but what I thought consistent with my duty, as a member of this House, as a good subject, and as a servant to the crown; and m such case, gentlemen may talk of the privileges of parliament, and of the freedom of debate in this House, but if what a man says is to be misrepresented, and clamours raised against him without doors, for what he honestly and fairly proposes, or gives as his opinion in this House, I must leave to the House to judge, what their privileges may in time come to. As to the wicked scheme, as the gentleman was pleased to call it, which he would persuade gentlemen, is not yet laid aside, I, for my own part, can assure this House, I am not so mad as ever again to engage in any thing that looks like an excise, though in my own private opinion I still think it was a scheme, that would have tended very much to the interest of the nation, and I am convinced that all the clamours without doors, and a great part of the opposition it met with every where, was founded upon artful falshoods, misrepresentations, and insinuations that such things were intended, as had never entered into the thoughts of any man I am acquainted with. I will now try, if I may be allowed to speak a few words to the question now before us, but must first take notice, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t any of our fellow-subjects to oppressive laws, we ought to consider their number, and the benefit which the public reaps thereby, in order to compare the two together, and from thence determine, whether the advantage got by the public bears such a proportion, as may justify the laying so many of our countrymen under great inconveniencies: this shews that the giving ear to the just complaints of the petitioners, lays us under no necessity of taking the case of any other set of men under our consideration. As to the consent of those, who have an interest in the duty upon coffee, tea, and chocolate, 1 believe we need give ourselves no trouble upon that head; for m »1] on the Number of the Land Forces. A.D. 1734. [282 they are certain, that the Parliament will not allow them to be sufferers, they will, as soon as asked, readily consent to any alteration we shall make, especially when it is for freeing such a considerable number of their fellow-countrymen from great hardships; but it will be time enough to think of this after we have come to the resolution of going into a committee upon this affair; therefore that argument can be of no manner of weight against the question. Mr. John Cockbum spoke next: Sir; In our present situation, I would be very far from agreeing to any thing that could possibly diminish the public revenue, but I am certain the revenue can be in no danger by our agreeing to the present motion; for when we are in the Committee proposed, if any such thing should be offered, gentlemen may freely give their negative to it, notwithstanding their having given their consent for going into a committee. I must say, I have not heard much argument made use of by the gentlemen who have opposed this motion: the whole of what they have said resolves in this, that the time is improper, because the session is to be but short; so that the true question now before us, is, shall we allow so 'many of our fellow-subjects to labour under what they apprehend to be a grievance, without making the least inquiry into their complaints ? Or shall kwe sit three or four days longer than some gentlemen intend we should ? As this seems the only question before us, it is easy for any gentleman to determine, which side he ought to take; I shall most certainly be for going into the committee moved tor. Mr, Joseph Danvers said: Sir; I am so far from being for the question before us, that I think this House shews a great deal of good nature, in allowing the petition to lie upon the table; for, in my opinion, it ought to be rejected. I shall, indeed, readily be for any thing that may discourage not only the running, but the importation of coffee, tea, or chocolate; for I wish we would or could be made all to return to the good old way of our ancestors, in breakfasting upon good English ale and bread and cheese. Both the men and women of those days were, I believe, as strong and as healthy as they are now, and yet what they made use of for breakfast, did not carry one penny out •f the nation: however, 1 think we may find out a much properer time for inquiring into this affair, than the very last session of a parliament, and a session which must be taken up in considering things of much greater consequence, not oidy to this nation, but to Europe in general. An honourable gentleman talked much of a scheme, which was before us last year, which he was pleased to call a wicked scheme; but I differ so far from him, that I think the gentlemen concerned in the administration never did a thing so wrong, as the giving up that scheme: I then thought, and still think, it would have been very much for the interest of the nation, and I am sure that it might have been carried, if those gentlemen had not of themselves let it drop. Then the question being put, for referring the said Petition to a Committee of the whole House, it was carried in the negative by 233 against 155. February 5. Sir John Rushout presented to the House, according to order, a Bill to preve ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- eferment in the army by his behaviour in either House of Parliar ment, and therefore this must be an opinion for which I hope there never was any ground; L am sure there can be ne ground for it under his present Majesty; but erroneous as it is, it is become a general opinion, and we know that mankind always were, and always will be governed and influenced by general opinions and prejudices; and according as the prevar lence of this opinion increases, we may expect an increase of the number of officers in both houses of parliament. We may expect, my Lords, that, in future times, as soon as any gentleman has'once got a commission in the army, he will next employ all his money and credit, and all his friends, to procure himself a seat in parliament; he will, perhaps, pawn the last shilling’s worth he has in the 343] 7 GEORGE II. Debate [344 world, besides his commission, in order to procure himself a seat in the other House of Parliament, and how dangerous it may be to our constitution, to have such a man depending for the continuance of that commission, upon some future enterprising minister, I leave to your lordships to judge. No man has a better opinion than I have of the gentlemen who are at present the officers of our army; but I must say, that I think it too hard a trial, even for their virtue, especially in this degenerate age, to leave it in the power of a desperate minister, to tell them, upon occasion of an important question in parliament, If you do not vote, Sir, as I direct you, you shall starve. Your lordships are, I am sure, all convinced, that the happiness, the essence of our constitution does not depend upon outward forms, but upon realities. Our constitution does not depend upon our having always a parliament, but upon that parliament's being independent of the administration; upon its being in the power of parliament to examine severely, and judge impartially the conduct and the measures of those employed in the administration, to represent the grievances, and watch over the liberties and the properties of the people of this nation, and to take away evil counsellors from before the king; but if ever a majority of both Houses of Parliament, should come to be composed of gentlemen, whose daily bread, or at least their chief support, depended entirely upon the favourites of the crown, can it be imagined that it would then be in the power of parliament to examine freely, or judge impartially the conduct of those favourites; to relieve the people from the oppressions brought upon them by such favourites; or to tell their sovereign any ungrateful truths about those whom he had thought fit to employ as his ministers ? Would not an arbitrary negative be then put upon all such questions m parliament ? Would not the best designs of the uncorrupted and independent few be baffled by a corrupt and slavish majority ? And shall any question which tends towards the preventing of such a misfortune, have now the ill fate to be rejected by your lordships ? The Bill now before us is so far from being an attack upon the prerogative, that it is in the very same terms with a bill drawn up in the very last reign, by as able and as honest a minister* as ever served * The late earl Stanhope. the crown: he was indeed an honest and a disinterested minister, for he had the happiness of his country so much at heart, that he neglected his own, and has left little else to his son, but the honour of having a seat amongst your lordships. The bill, I say, my Lorcfs, was not only drawn up, but even his late Majesty, who never could be accused of allowing of any unjust encroachments upon the crown, had, by the advice of that minister, agreed to its being brought into parliament: and if it had been brought in that time, which was, I do not know how, prevented, not only the ministers of the crown were ready to have supported it, but the King himself was ready to have given it the royal assent, as soon as presented to him for that purpose. This, my Lo ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Private Persons MATCH TEXT: 'private persons' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Private Persons ['private persons']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- lls that ever was brought before this House, and therefore 1 must think, that it deserves something more, than the putting of a bare negative upon its being read a second time. It has often been endeavoured, by many lords in this House, to set a regular standing army in the most terrible light; and great art has formerly been used to shew the dangerous consequences of such on army; but all the debates that have happened in this House upon that head, there never were any such fatal conse- 3uences pretended, as I should have readed from a standing army under the regulations prescribed in this Bill, had it passed into a law. While our army con* tmues in the state it is in at present, while it depends upon the parliament for its very existence, and while the officers depend upon the King for the continuing of them in their respective commands, I shall never have any fears about the consequences which may soon thence ensue; but if this Bill had passed into a law, our army had been made independent both of king and parliament. The officers would then have depended upon no power but their own; they would soon have begun to think, that they had a legal right to their commissions, and consequently to their pay; and if both king and parliament had joined in opinion for reducing any number of them, they would have looked on it as an injury done them, and would have been apt to nave joined all together to prevent the effect of any such resolution; and if they had, I would be glad to know, how the resolutions of king and parliament could have been made effectual against them; whereas, while they remain in the dependent state they are in at present, they know they have no longer any sight, either to their commissions or their pay, than it shall please his Majesty to continue them in their command; and therefore they readily submit whenever his Majesty finds it proper to reduce any number of them. This, my lords, would have been the consequence as to the public; but then as to private persons the most terrible oppressions might have ensued, from making the officers subject to no power but their own. The officers of the army, like all other sets of men, are apt to favour one another; they are likewise apt to favour the common soldiers, as being of the same body with themselves: we all know how many little acts of oppression may be committed by the officers and soldiers in their respective quarters, and otherwise, which cannot come under the cognizance of the common law. If in such cases the officer should be guilty of oppressions or should connive at the irregularities committed by the soldiers under his command, we may easily judge what would be the consequence, if the offender could not be any way punished, but by a trial and sentence of his brother officers in a court-martial, who might probably be all guilty of the same crimes and irregularities: and if, in such cases, the officers had nothing to fear, either from king or parliament, we may most certainly conclude, that our regular army would soon become intolerably irregular, and would become a most insupportable grievance to the* people in all parts of the country through which they should happen to march, or where they should happen to be posted. This, I find, my Lords, was an inconvenience, which the projectors of this Bill were aware of; and therefore they have pretended to contrive a remedy for this evil, by leaving officers liable to be broke, or removed by his Majesty, upon an Address from either House of Parliament; but I am afraid, that this remedy would have been soon found to be altogether ineffectual. The principal reason assigned, for bringing in this Bill, was, because the officers of the army are now become numerous in both Houses of Parliament, and may soon become more numerous, so as at last to be able to bear too great a sway in both Houses. If this be the case as they are situated at present, would not we have much more to fear from their numbers and sway in parliament, if they had a sort of freehold in their commissions; which they would have had, if this Bill had passed into a law ? Would not the holding of their commissions for life have made every one of them more considerable in the country, than they can possibly be, in the precarious condition they are in at present ? And if you had added to their weight and interest in the country, would not you of course have encreased their numbers, and their sway in both Houses of Parliament? this, my lords, I look upon as a most certain consequence; and are wc not reasonably to suppose, that all the officers, m both Houses of Parliament, would have joined, not only in vo- 3613 7 GEORGE II. Debate in the Lords on the Bill I352 ting, but in making all the interest they could against any motion for such an Address ? This would certainly have been the case, and if this Bill had passed into a law, I am convinced, the officers of the army would soon have got such interest in both Houses of Parliament, that it would have been impossible to have procured an Address from either House, for the removal of any one of them. Th ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- pon the Journals of your lordships House, and it is one of the chief* ends of our sitting here: We are his Majesty’s great council, and if his Majesty, or any of his successors, should ever by wicked counsellors be prevailed on to do what is publicly and generally com- plained of, we are obliged, both in honour and duty, to inquire into the affair, and to address his Majesty to lay before us the L* A] 555] 7 GEORGE II. Debate in the Lords on the Removal [356 reasons for his so doing, and to inform us who it was that advised him to take such measures, that so the measures, if right, may be justified, and, if wrong, that the indignation of the people may be removed from the throne, that their resentment may fall as it ought, upon those that advised such measures, and that the evil counsellors may meet with that punishment they deserve. This, my lords, is really the case now before us; a measure has been taken which has raised a general clamour, and we are the more concerned in it, because the two officers who have been removed are both members of this House. I make no doubt but that very sufficient reasons have been shewn to his Majesty for removing them, but I have so good an opinion of the two noble lords, that I am convinced, the reasons which have been shewn to his Majesty for their removal; are fhlse, and were grounded only upon misrepresentations. It is true, my Lords, I was one of those Lords who voted for this bill, which your lordships have been pleased to reject. I must say, that I have as yet heard nothing that can make me alter my opinion, and since it has been said, that the same argu* •nents which prevailed with your lordships to reject that bill, must now prevail with you to reject this motion: I shall beg leave to take some notice o those arguments, I was indeed a little surprised to hear it said, that, by the bill, the officers of the army were to acquire a sort of freehold in their commissions. I believe your lordships would not agree to take any particular man’s freehold from him, even by an act of parliament, without giving him an equivalent; but notwithstanding any provision in the Bill, an officer was to remain liable to have his commission taken from him by an Address only, without any cause assigned, or equivalent given; nay, by breaking or reducing the regiment, all the officers of the regiment might have been turned out of their commands by his Majesty’s single authority; which shews, that though the bill had passed, it would have given them no manner of freehold in their commissions: It would, in reality, have given the officers no further right to their commissions than they have at present; for it is certain, that every officer has now a right to his commission as long os he behaves well, and the corps to which he belongs is keptentire: No officer ought, or can, justly, be turned out of his bread, as long as he behaves well; and all that was proposed to be done by the Bill, was to subject the behaviour of an officer to the judgment of a court-martial, or a House of Parliament, instead of leaving it subject to the judgment of ministers of state or court favourites: The officers therefore, if the Bill had passed into law, could not have imagined, that they had any better right to their commissions or their pay than they now have; and, consequently, there could never have been? any more danger or difficulty in reducing the whole, or any part of the army, than there is at present. But, my Lords, supposing that the officers of the army were to be rendered, as to the holding of their commissions, entirely independent both of king and parliament, surely, if any danger were to be apprehended from them m such a state, in case they should unite against king and parliament, under a general of their own chusing, the parliament, and consequently die people, have much more to fear from them in their present state, in case some future king should think proper to make use of them for the destruction of parliaments, and for o ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['Grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- y ymexnhcr for Warwick, stood up and 6poke as follows: Mr. Speaker; The call of the House being adjourned to a very remote day, upon a general opinion, which 1 hope is well founded, that no Vote of Credit will be proposed, I believe we can scarce expect to see a fuller House than this day produces. There cannot therefore be a better opportunity of making a motion which I apprehend to be of such n national concernment, that I have long wished it undertaken by some person better able to support it than myselt: but I have this satisfaction, that what I am going to offer will so far speak for itself, as may supply any defects in my manner of laving it before you; and I cannot doubt the concurrence of this House, when it comes to be maturely oonsidcred. I believe we are none of us unapprised of the dislike the people in general have always had to long parliaments; a dislike justly founded on reason and experience; long parliaments in former reigns having proved the unhappy cause of great calamities to this nation; and having been at all times declared an innovation upon our constitution. I am convinced there isnoone that hears me, who does not believe the people thought themselves highly aggrieved by the Septennial Bill: that they even looked upon it as a dangerous infringement of their liberties, notwithstanding the cause alledged in the preamble to the act, which seemed at that time to cariy some weight with it. ' I’hat cause being happily removed, they desire to revert, as near as may be, to their ancient constitution; and surely there can never be a more favourable opportunity to ellcctuate it than at this juncture, wh'en his Majesty, to the great joy of the kingdom, has been graciously pleased to declare his satisfaction, that the people are soon to have an opportunity of chusing a new representative. The present parliament draws near its dissolution: what can it do more for its own honour ? How can it crown its many meritorious acts better, than by redressing a grievance, which a succeeding parliament may possibly have its reasons for not entering into ? Frequent parliaments were early declared a fundamental part of our constitution. In the 4th of Edward 3, an act 297j Repealnf the Septennial Aat. A.D. 1734. [396 passed for holding them once a year, or oftener, if there should be occasion. In the 36th year of the some reign that statute was confirmed. In that parliament Magna Charta and Charta de Foresta were confirmed, and several new privileges granted to the subject. Then comes the clause relating to Parliaments, which sufficiently shews, the intention and original institution of them was for the redress of Grievances: for the bill enacts. That for the maintenance of the said articles and statutes, that is, the privileges before-mentioned, and for redress of divers mischiefs and grievances, which daily happen, a new parliament shall be held once every year, as at another time was ordained. The 16th of Car. 2. recites. That by the ancient laws and statutes, parliaments are to be held very often, and therefore enacts, That the sitting and holding of parliaments shall not be intermitted, or discontinued, for more than three years. In the early days when this prudent care was taken for frequent meeting of parliaments, the crown was possessed of revenues, which made applications to the people for money, unless upon extraordinary emergencies, unnecessary. It therefore plainly appears, That redress of grievances, making salutary laws for the good of the community, and preserving the liberties of the people, by supporting a due balance between the power of the crown and the rights of the subject, were the main ends of calling parliaments. The power of calling then being the undoubted prerogative of the crown, it became necessary, for the safety of the subject, to oblige the crown to call them frequently. I must confess, a caution of this kind is no longer necessary, nor can it ever be, so long as we preserve to ourselves the power of granting money; the crown revenues being sunk, or wantonly granted away, the annual call for a Supply must necessarily produce an annual meeting of parliament. But give me leave to observe, the grievance now complained of is of a very different nature: It is not founded on discontinuance of parliaments; but on a too long and dangerous continuance of one and the same parliament: a practice unheard of in former times, when prorogations were not known: for when a parliament was annually called for the redress of grievances, as soon as the business, of the session was over, it was dissolved, and a new one called the next year for the same purpose; by which means the country had a proper check upon their representatives, ana those who nad appeared to be too much under the influence of the crown; those who were too much attached to the minister, had less opportunity of injuring their country; the people had it more frequently in their power to sh^w a proper resentment, and remedy the evil by sending others the next year in their places. This matter seems fully explained by 16 Car. 2, which does not only prevent discontinuance of parliaments, but wisely provides against the too long continuance of one and the same parliament, by enacting it into a law, That a new parliament shall be called once in three years, or oflener if there be occasion. The Bill of Rights in the second session of William and Mary, among man)' other privileges which we now enjoy, enacts, That for redress of grievances, amending, strengthening and preserving laws, parliaments ought to be frequently held; * and the sixth of the same reigil, explains the true meaning of the clause, when it declares, That frequent and new parliaments tend very much to the happy union and good agreement between the Icing and the people; it confirms the 16 Car. 2, that parliaments shall be held once in three years at least, and adds, That no parliament shall continue more than three years at farthest. Between that and the first of the late king, several parliaments were held, and none continued longer than three years; some held for one session; which seems to be the original constitution, and best calculated for the good of the nation. That year the Septennial Bill past, the repeal of which I am going to move, but believe it more agreeable to the rules of the House, that the Act itself should be first read. [Here the clerk read the Act.] The preamble to the Bill, which is the foundation of it, will, I think, admit a very easy answer; as to the first point, that triennial parliaments have proved more grievous, burthen?ome, and expensive, than they were ever known before that law past, I readily agree: but let us consider the cause; the lengthening the term occasioned the expence. I fear I might add, the multiplicity of places enjoyed by the members of this House, may be too justly alledged another cause. But I would willingly confine myself to the particular point, liow far the term or duration ofparlianients might encrease or lessen • SeeVfel. p. 110. ' 599] 7 GEORGE II. Debate on . Bromley'* Motion for the [400 the expence ? Might add to or diminish the grievance complained of? And I will connder it only in this light, by submitting it to every gentleman that hears me, Whether he would not give more for an annuity of three years than for a grant determinable at the end of one ? And by the same parity of reasoning. Whether septennial parliaments must not prove more grievous, ourthensomeand expensive than triennial, at least in such a degree as an annuity for seven years deserves a better consideration than one for three. But 'supposing I should be out in this point, which I can never give up without due conviction; this argument in the preamble is, I hope, entirely at an end. The act against Bribery and Corruption, which must ever redound to the honour of this parliament, will necessarily remedy this evil: that glorious act will prevent corruption in the electors. Nothing but frequent new parliaments can remedy it in the elected. The other reason upon which that act was founded, namely, a suspicion that designs were carrying on to renew the Rebellion, and an invasion from abroad, was •in my humble opinion, the only justifiable pretence for enacting it into a law; and might possibly have induced some gentlemen of very great honour and integrity, to give their votes for the Bill at that juncture, whose assistance, I flatter myself, I shall now have in repealing it: for those who voted for it from that view, could never Intend it should be made perpetual, or that it should continue longer than that misfortune subsisted. I must beg pardon of you, Sir, and of the House, for the trouble I have given you. The nature of the motion I am going to make you, has unavoidably drawn me into a length as disagreeable to myself, as it must have been to those that hear me. Numberless arguments will occur to every gentleman in favour of it; I will therefore conclude with this motion, viz. " That leave be given to bring in a Bill for repealing the 'Septennial Act, and for the* more frequent meeting and calling of Parliaments." In this, Sir, ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- time they shall fix on, since the conquest, we ever had such a one as we should be now willing to submit to, and rest satisfied with. I know of no settled constitution till the Revolution; it is from that happy period I date our having any at all. It may indeed be agreeable to the antient laws of the realm, that there should be frequent parliaments, that is, that parliaments should be frequently holden; but from whence will gentlemen prove, that it has been established as a fundamental maxim in what is called our old constitution, that there should be frequent elections; sure at least 411] 7 GEORGE II. Debate I am, if the nature of our constitution required that there should be such, the practice of our ancestors has not always corrresponded with it. It would be a tedious task to shew in what manner parliaments have been called and holden, and to trace out all the variations of our laws, or rather practice, in this respect, since the conquest, 200 years after which, I believe, there was no such thing in being as a House of Commons; at least, if there was any such assembly, they met but very seldom. But gentlemen’s thoughts will prevent me in what I could oiler upon this Bead, and therefore 1 shall not enter into a detail of particulars with which many others may be much better acquainted: only in general, I will venture to say, that from the earliest records of time to the Revolution, the crown made use of their prerogative so far with regard to parliaments, that the people never knew when there would be a new election, or how long the power they gave their representatives when elected, might be continued to them. If we look back into our history, we shall find in some reigns, parliaments chosen by the people, and dissolved by the crown before they were suffered to meet at all; in other reigns a very long intermission of parliaments, and in others again a parliament perhaps in being, but for many years successively, not once suffered to sit. These, Sir, were real grievances: and in this reforming age, we seem to be as uneasy, and as fond of taking precautions against imaginary dangers, as ever our ancestors were about providing against those that were real. My worthy friend and contemporary at the University, whosecondedthe motion, has shewn the practice of several of our former kings in this particular, and indeed has spoken in favour of the motion, with so much decency and weight, that it re* quires one much better skilled than I am in our English history and parliamentary proceedings, to do the same justice to the other side of the question: but he has quoted two reigns, which will, in my opinion, both turn against the motion he has so handsomely supported. These, Sir, are the reigns of king Charles 1, and king Charles 2, but before I take notice of them, give me leave to mention another j reign, I mean that of queen Elizabeth, which both the worthy gentlemen have very prudently avoided mentioning upon this occasion, though it be a reign that is seldom forgot to be brought upon the on Mr, Bromley's Motion for the [41S carpet, when a comparison is to be made, in order to depreciate the actions and measures of the present times: In the long reign of that queen, a reign which lasted yearrf, there were in all but ten parliaments chosen; in these ten parliaments there were Mfc 13 sessions, and except the last, never any of these sessions continued many weeks together. Besides, Sir, however glorious the reign of that princess may be in other respects; yet it is certain, that in many instances she used her parliaments in such a manner, as I hope we shall never see parliaments treated for the future. As for the reign of king Charles the First, I little expefcted. Sir, that reign would have been introduced in this debate, especially by those who are advocates for this question:for surely that reign ought to be buried in oblivion, by those who would plead for the liberty of the subject, and are for lessening the prerogative of the crown; because in no preceding reign was the last ever carried higher, or the other in greater danger of being utterly subverted and destroyed. Were it necessary for the point I am contending for, I would undertake to prove, that as long as he had any power, he was daily attempting, by his prerogative, to have made parliaments useless: and therefore I shall easily agree with the honourable gentleman, that he neglected callingfrcquentnew parliaments. But give me leave farther to observe, that during that king’s reign, no parliament was called, there was not so much as one in being; no! not for 12 years together; during which time, history does not give the most favourable account of him, with respect to his several attempts upon the liberties of his subjects, which the honourable gentleman has put a very handsome gloss upon, by saying, that these attempts were made by advice of sycophants: Whoever the authors were, Sir, the facts are true; and the consequences, had they not been prevented, must have proved fatal to the rights of the people. When I have said this, I would not nave it understood, as if I approved of the steps afterwards taken, by which that prince was brought to his tragical and untimely end; but as his fate ought to be a warning to all future princes, not to make any incroachmentg upon the liberties or privileges of the subject, so it ought to be a warning to all those who are true .lovers of our constitution to be extremely cautious of introducing any new regulations or unnecea- 415j Repeal of the Septennial Act. A.D. 1754.. [414 sary ameriflipents. And this, Sir, I take to be a lesson much more proper for the present question, than that which my honourable friend has been pleased to recommend to us from the fate of that prince; since the question is not now about complimenting the crown with any new or extravagant powers, nor about denying the people those rights, which they are entitled to by law. I ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ble gentleman who made this motion, and the honourable gentleman whe seconded it, have supported it in so strong and handsome a manner, that an attempt to add any thing to what they have said, may be looked on as presumption; yet I cannot help declaring my approbation of the motion in the best and most public manner I am able. * The honourable gentleman who read you a long extract out of master Prynne, seemed rather, in my opinion, to divert than instruct the House; and though I could not join with gentlemen in their mirth upon so serious a debate, yet I must own I cannot conceive to what purpose that long extract was read to us upon the present occasion: nor can I see what the question now before us has to do with the prerogative of the crown, either as now enjoyed, or as claimed in any time past. Because gentlemen have mentioned our old constitution, and have taken notice of a particular regulation with respect to the holding of parliaments, which was then in force, and which they desire to be re-established; is it from thence to be inferred that they desire to restore, in all its parts, our ancient constitution, as it stood at any period of time ? No, when we talk of our old constitution, with regard to any amendment or alteration now proposed, we are to pick out those customs, which appear to be good, and which ought to be restored; and we are to reject those which. appear to have been bad. The question now before us, is not whether our constitution be now in the * Afterwards duke of Beaufort. 4$1J Repeal of the Septennial AA.D. 1734. [42$ general better regulated than it ever was at any former period: the question now before us is particular; it is, Whether our constitution, with respect to the holding of Parliaments, was ever under abetter regulation than it is at present: And that it was so, seems to me to be demonstrable from the very nature and design of parliaments; for this House is properly the grand inquest of the nation, they are to represent the grievances of the people to their sovereign; and the people are always to choose proper representatives for that purpose: that choice ought therefore to be annual, because the person that may be a proper representative one year, may before the next, or at least very soon after be concerned In making the people suffer those very grievances which they want to complain of; pnd surely such person would not be then a proper representative of the people. This was our old constitution, with respect to the holding of parliaments; they were, or at least ought to have been, mot only annually held, but annually chosen. It is well known that prorogations are but of a late date; they were first introduced to favour the arbitrary views of some of our ambitious kings; and as they owed their origin to such a corrupt fountain, I am persuaded we never can expect any gooa from them. However, the question now before us does not go far, nor are we obliged to have recourse to remote ages for a precedent for what is now proposed. When we now talk of our old constitution, we are to consider it as it was settled and reformed at the Revolution, and at that time, as has been before observed, the patrons of liberty did not think their work was complete, without having the point -fully and clearly settled; and therefore they were never at rest, till they had obtained that very law which is now desired to be restored: for this reason I cannot but think that gentlemen have given themselves a very unnecessary trouble in explaining to us so particularly the history of former reigns, or the complaints against former kings; for the not holding any parliament at all, or the continuing the same parliament for a great number of years is m effect the same; in the last case, as well as the first, the people have no opportunity of having their grievances either represented or redressed, because after a number of years the member^may either become unacquainted with, and regardless •f the grievances of the people, or they may themselves have so great a hand in those grievances, that for their own selfish ends they will prevent their being redressed. It has been said, that the restoring of this law would create great heats, and raise dangerous contentions in the nation. If it were a new law, a law which we had never any experience of, this argument might have some weight; but the direct contrary of this is known to be true from the experience we had of it, while it was allowed to continue in force. Besides, this is one of those arguments that prove too much; for it is as good an argument for us to continue ourselves for seven years longer, or indeed for a perpetual parliament, as it is for a septennial; and it is an argument that has m all countries been, made use of for subverting the liberties of the people. In all free countries there must now and then happen some little feuds and divisions among the people, which ambitious wicked men have used all their cunning and all their eloquence to* set in the most terrible light, and under the pretence of preventing those feuds and divisions, have in most countries prevailed upon the people to give up, or at least to allow themselves to be robbed of those privileges which were their only defence against tyranny and arbitrary power. Another objection against this motion is, that a septennial parliament is necessary for establishing and confirming our credit abroad. If this be yet to do, if our credit abroad remains yet to be either established or confirmed, I will say that we have lately spent many millions, and have made many treaties to very little purpose. Ia not this likewise an argument for settling the duration of our parliaments at a much longer term i for if our credit abroad were any way strengthened by a parliament to continue for seven years, would it not be much more so by a parliament to continue for seven times seven ? but this is not the case; our foreign neighbours judge better of the condition and circumstances of this nation, than some of ourselves seem to do; our credit among them depends on their believing that there is an union and mutual conf ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- frequent; The more frequent the better. It is certain, a gentleman who enjoys a good pension for seven years, is more able to give a high price, than if he had enjoyed mat pension but for one year or even for three; and he will more willingly give a high price, when he is thereby to purchase the continuance of that pension for seven years, than when he is to purchase it only for one or for three years. This, Sir, is so evident, that I am astonished to hear it controverted within these walls. If our parliaments were annual, it would be impossible for place-men or pensioners to save as much yearly as would be sufficient to bribe country gentlemen out of their interest, and the electors out of their honesty; which I .am afraid is a practice now too frequent in many parts of this kingdom: how can it otherwise be imagined that the people would chuse persons they never saw, persons they perhaps never heard of, in opposition to gentlemen who live in the neighbourhood; gentlemen who give them daily employment, by buying in their shops and markets all the manufactures and provisions they have use for in their families; and gentlemen whose ancestors have, perhaps, often represented that very place in parliament with great honour and universal approbation ? 1 remember. Sir, I was told by a gentleman who is now dead, and therefore I may name him, I mean Mr. Spencer Cowper, afterwards one of the Judges of the Common-Pleas, he told me himself that he had never been in the borough he represented in parliament, nor had ever seen or spoke with any of his electors; and I believe I could, without much difficulty, name some who are now in the same situation. Can such Sir, be called the representatives of the people, or can it be supposed that they are chosen by means of that natural interest by which every man ought to hold his seat in this House r The Parliament, Sir, is the great council of the nation, and the business of this House in particular is to represent to his Majesty the grievances of the people, to inform his Majesty if any of his ministers or officers makes an ill use of the power he delegates to them, and to impeach and prosecute such evil ministers. Now I would be glad to know who are the most proper representatives for these purposes, 4J1] 7 GEORGE U. Dcbett gentlemen who have large properties in the country, who are independent of the ministers and officers of the crown, and who by living in the country are perfectly acquainted with die circumstances of thie people; or gentlemen who for their chief support depend upon the ministere and officers of the crown, who knew nothing of those they represent, and are not only ignorant of their true interests, hut are really indifferent about their welfare. I hope it will not be controverted, hot that the first sort of gentlemen are the most proper representatives of the people; and if so, Annual or Triennial Parliaments are better than Septennial, because there is a greater probability of their being chiefly composed of such gentlemen. As bribery and corruption, therefore, is a natural consequence of long parliaments, as it must always increase in proportion as the term for the parliaments continuance is prolonged, I am persuaded that all those who are against bribery and corruption, will join with me in voting for the restitution of triennial parliaments. It is not die expence of an election that country gentlemen are to be afraid of; the most extravagant entertainments that a stranger in the country could give, would have but little weight, if to these he did not add downright Bribery; and even those Bribes must be so high, as to overbalance the natural interest of the country -gentleman, as well as the honesty of the greatest part of the electors: as these Bribes cannot be made so high for a triennial parliament, as they may be for a septennial, they cannot be so prevalent •among die electors; and therefore a gentleman, who depends upon nothing but his natural interest, will always have a ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- states in public duties and taxes, will at last have nothing to do but to sit down and bemoan the fate of their country: but their complaints will then be to verjr little purpose, for the doors of that puce, where the groans of the people ought to be heard, will then be shut against diem. We may depend on it that those, who obtain their seats in this House by ministerial influence, will, while here, be directed in all their proceedings by the same sort of influence, and by none other. To conclude, Sir, I am very certain that there is nothing would be more agreeable to the people in general, than the repeal of the septennial law; and therefore I, as one of the representatives of the People chosen without bribery or corruption, and as one whe has nothing to consider but the interest of those I represent, shall readily vote for the modon. Mr. John Willes {Attorney General) spoke against the motion: Sir; I have given all possible attention to what has been said by gendemen, on both sides of this question; and I must confess, I cannot yet see any manner of reason for agreeing to the motion. Gendemen have been pleased to put us in mind of our ancient constitution; but it has been so often varied and altered, that it will be found very difficult to fix upon a dme when it was such as we ought or would desire to return to: and if any time is to be fixed on, we are not surely to take the time when our constitution was weak and in its infancy, we are certainly to chuse that time when it was come to its full strength and vigour, which, in my opinion, is the present. But as gendemen have mentioned the Claim of Rights, let us examine how it stood at that time, for I am persuaded it will be agreed to by every gentleman in this House, that after that Claim was settled and confirmed, our constitution was more vigorous than it ever was before that time; and yet even in our Claim of Rights there is no mention made of frequent new parliaments: It is indeed said, that for redress of grievances, and for amending, strengthening and preserving the laws, parliaments ought to be held frequently-; but it is not so much as insinuated, that every one of these parliaments ought to be a new parliament; and Q8 to the frequency of parliaments, I am sure there never was less reason for complaintthan since the Septennial Bill passed; 433] Repea of the Septemria Act, A.D. 17M. [43ft for ever since that time the sessions have been regularly held, and all of them have been allowed to sit as long as it was necessary or proper they should. But, Sir, even by the Claim of Rights our constitution was not so well regulated or established as it is at present: it was still left in the power of the king to continue a parliament as long as he pleased, and this certainly might have become a grievance upon the people. This oversight the whole nation were sensible of, and this they were willing to obviate; but in aU such cases, people generally run from one extreme to another; the passions of men are something like a pendulum, if they are raised too high on one side, they always rise too high on the other; it requires time before they come to settle in the equilibrium of reason. This was the very case with respect to the Triennal Bill, which passed in the reign of King William: the passions of the people were raised high against the unlimited prerogative of the crown, in continuing a parliament as long as the king had a mind; this the enemies of the government took hold of, in Order to introduce a law by which the prerogative was in this respect limited too much:for it is well known that the Triennial Act was neither introduced nor promoted by the patrons of liberty, or the real friends to that King’s government; it was by thosa who meant to distress the measures of that good prince, to whom their native country, nay even they themselves, stood so much indebted. They at last prevailed, they got that law passed, which, after a long experience, was found to be of dangerous consequence to the peace of the nation, and to the quiet of the subject; and therefore the Septennial Bill was agreed to, which is a most reasonable mean between the one extreme of leaving the prerogative of the crown in this respect unlimited, and the other extreme of limiting this prerogative too much, by laying the crown under a necessity of calling a new parliament once in three years, whether it be consistent with the peace and security of the nation or not. From whence, Sir, I think I have good Teason to be of opinion, that our constitution is now in its utmost perfection. I was indeed glad to hear enco-niums bestowed by an honourable gentleman upon the late King William, because such seldom come from the comer of the House where he sits; but if that glorious King had been limited to Septen ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a high one, there cannot be a purchaser. This is a case which I hope never will happen, but if ever it should, I cannot see how our constitution could be more safe with a Triennial than with a Septennial Parliament; for I am persuaded that if a man will sell his vote either in Parliament, or at elections, for 1,000 or 100 guineas, he will sell it for half that sum, when he finds he can get no more. Whatever is once brought to market is generally sold for the market-price; and v/e find that the more frequently a thing is sold, the lower it fails in its price, the more contemptible it becomes. People usually suppose that cor-1 ruption is only of one sort; but this. Sir, is a mistake, it appears in many shapes; a man may be bribed without giving him money; and even members of this House may be bribed without getting any place or preferment from the government. If any gentleman, to please his borough, and to secure his next election, should act contrary to his own judgment, it is as downright bribery as if he had got a pension, a place or preferment from the court; and I look upon this as one of the very worst sorts of corruption. Gentlemen have told us, that Septennial parliaments are attended with many inconveniences, but they have not been so good as to shew us any of them, at least in so far as I have yet heard; we have had the experience of such parliaments for above these eighteen years, and yet I do not find that they have pretended to shew any one inconvenience which has arisen from them in all that time; from whence I must ?resume, that it is not in their power; and believe it cannot be shewn that so many good laws have passed in any 6uch number of years, as have been passed since septennial parliaments took place: I am sure it cannot be shewn, that any one law has been passed by any of our septennial parliaments, that incroached upon the rights of the people, or that was attended with an inconvenience, or was looked on by the generality of the people as a grievance. If ever there were any such, I must desire that the gentlemen of* the other sid* of the question would point them out to us. But, Sir, I could shew many inconveniences that would certainly ensue from Triennial or annual Parliaments: the whole nation would be kept in a continual ferment: the feuds and divisions which by every election are raised among neighbours in the country, would be continually kept up:the country gentlemen would be entirely ruined by the expence of frequent elections, and an annual attendance upon this House with multitudes of witnesses, about those that might be contested; and a vast encouragement would be given to drunkenness and idleness among all ranka of men. We know when working people have been habituated but for a few days to drunkenness and idleness, how hard it is to bring them back to their labour and industry; from whence we must conclude, that such frequent elections would be a great prejudice to our husbandry, to our manufactures, and to all sorts of improvements; for the drinking -and feasting I 437J Repeal of the Septennial . A.D. 1734. [438 about one election would hardly be over, when that for the next would begin. All these, and many worse, would be the certain consequences of Triennial, or annual elections; whereas when elections return but once in seven years, the feuds and divisions among neighbours, and the ferment the nation is put into, have time to subside; the labouring people have time to cool and return to their labour, and the country gentlemen may easily bear the expence of elections, because they have six years to recruit, and to lay in a stock for that purpose. An honourable gentleman spoke of Septennial Parliaments as necessary to support falling ministers:how a Septennial can be more proper for this purpose than a Triennial, I cannot really comprehend; but whatever may be in this, I am sure it is not the case at present: for I have been of late in as many counties and corporations as any 'gentleman, I ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- inisters have been of late | very changeable in their politics, I do not j 441J, Repeal of the Septennial Act. A.D. 1754. [44£ know but they may take it in their heads to change their religion too: therefore, for fear of our having a popish parliament, and some popish ministers, 1 am for repefding the septennial law, in order to prevent their having time to do a great deal of mischief. Sir John Hynde Colton said: Sir; As to all the parts of England I . know, I can affirm the truth of what my worthy friend by me has said. The Papists are in general making use of all their interest in favour of those candidates who are recommended by the ministers; and an honourable gentleman on the floor, who I believe has no small share in the present administration, knows that one of that religion, who is a gentleman of one of the best and most ancient families in the county of Norfolk, and a gentleman of one of the best estates in it, is now riding about the country, soliciting votes for his friends who are candidates fee the county, or for any city or borough within the county; so that if there has been of late an increase of popery, it cannot be said that the interest of the ministers is thereby weakened; but as to his Majesty's government, I dare say that it cannot be much strengthened by the addition of such friends. An honourable and learned gentleman over the way was pleased to ask us, Sir, if his late or present Majesty had ever made .any attempt to the prejudice of the rights of the people, or had endeavoured to ex-• tend any branch of the prerogative beyond its legal bounds I To this auestion, Sir, I shall not answer one word, because I know the gentleman's office; but I shall answer another question asked by the same gentleman: he asked us, if 1 remember right, Whether any law was ever passed by a Septennial Parliament that incroached upon the liberties of the people, or that was attended with an inconvenience, or was looked on by the generality of the people as a grievance ? As to the first part of this question, I must really. Sir, look upon the Septennial Law itself as some sort of incroachment upon the rights of the people; and that laws I think, was passed by a parliament which made itself . Septennial. But farther. Sir, were not the laws- of treason, as to trials, altered by a Septennial parliament, or at least one which made itself so ? That law which had remained unaltered in all the contests, and the long wars that happened between the Houses of York and Lancaster, was altered upon a trifling insurrection in some of the northern parts of this kingdom: formerly every man was to be tried by a jury of his honest neighbours, within the county where the crimes alledged against him, were said to have been committed; but a Septennial parliament ordered him to be carried away, and tried in any country where the crown, or rather the minister, could find 'a jury proper for their purpose mid where the prisoner might not perhaps be able to bring any witnesses in nis own justification, it might at least have been impossible for him to bring any without a great expence. And yet farther. Sir, was not the not act passedby a Septennial Parliament; and is this no incroachment upon the rights of the people i Is it no grievance that a little dirty justice of the peace, the meanest and vilest tool a minister can make use of, a tool who, perhaps, subsists by his being in the commission, and who may be turned out of that subsistence whenever the minister pleases; is this, I say, no grievance that such a tool should have it in his power, by reading a proclamation, to put perhaps 20 or SO of the best subjects in England to immediate death, -without any trial or form of law ? This law, Sir, and several others I could name, have been passed by Septennial parliaments; to which, because they stand yet unrepealed, I shall not give the names I think they deserve. But, Sir, to ask whether any laws have been passed by Septennial Parliaments, which have been attended with inoanve-niences, or have been complained of as a grievance, is a question I am surprised to hear come from a gentleman learned in the laws. Was not the fatal South Sea Scheme in the year 1720, established by an act of a Septennial Parliament, and can any man ask, whether that law was attended with any inconvenience I It was, Sir, the most scandalous act that ever was passed by any parliament: if Triennial Parliaments had then been in being, I am persuaded it would never have passed; or n it had, lam sure, the chief promoters of it would have suffered a very different fate from what they did. And, did not the same parliament pass some clauses in an act for hindering the spreading of the plague, that were looked upon by the generality of the people as so great a grievance, and were so loudly complained of by all ranks of people in the nation, that it was thought proper to repeal them in the very next session of parliament ? To the glorious catalogue I have man- 443] *7 GEORGE II. tioned of laws passed by Septennial Parliaments, we might have added the late Excise Bill, if it had passed into a law; but thank God, the Septennial parliament was near expiring before that famous bill was introduced. To this glorious catalogue I could add, Sir, not a few others; but I will stop here, till I have heard the laws I have mentioned justified by those who seem to be so much in love with Septennial parliaments; and if thev can justify all that has been done by such parliaments, I now promise most solemnly to be of their opinion; but till then 1 hope they will excuse me, in being for the repeal of a law, which, in my opinion, has never done any good, which has produced a great deal of mischief; and which, I am much afraid, will quite overturn our constitution, if it continues for any time unrepealed. Sir John Barnard spoke next: Sir; I am a good deal surprised to find that none of those gentlemen who usually on Mr. Bromley's MotionJor the [444 have a great share in our debates, seem inclined to take any share in this. I hope they will allow it to be a question of some consequence to their country; and if it should be carried in the affirmative, some of them may perhaps find it a question of some consequence to themselves. I will venture to say, that I have not heard a question better supported on one side, and less said against it on the other, by the gentlemen who have already spoken since I sat in parliament; and I now stand up, not that I think any thing needful to be added to what has been said in support of it, but that I cannot think of letting a auestion go, in the success of which I link the happiness of my country so deeply concerned, without my joining with other gentlemen in shewing all the regard for it that lies in my power. An honourable and learned gentleman has indeed advanced a doctrine which I think altogether new: that we are to have no further dependance on our electors after we have taken our seats in this House; * " Sir John Barn&rd, knight, was bom at Reading in 1635. His parents being qnakers, he was Drought up at a school at Wandsworth in Surry, appropriated to the education of persons of that persuasion, and derived little information from his master. In 1703, he quitted the society of quakers, was baptised by .Compton, bishop of London, and continued a member of the established church. He rose into eminence, solely by his indefatigable assiduity in business and high integrity in his mercantile transactions. He had attained his 36th year, when he first attracted the public notice, and on an occasion wholly unsought by himself. A bill greatly affecting the wine trade, had passed through the House of Commons, and was depending in the upper House. The principal merchants, who would have been injured by the operation of the bill, united in presenting a petition to the lords, praying to be heard against it, by themselves or counsel. Their request being granted, Mr. Barnard, without his knowledge, was selected as the fittest person to prove the grievance, and to answer every objection to the petition. Through some unaccountable negligence he was not acquainted with the business, till the afternoon liefore he was to be heard by the peers. This singular disadvantage, when it came to be known, made his speech appear the more extraordinary. By the extent of his acquaintance with commevce, and the perspicuity and force of his reasoning, accompanied with a becoming modesty, he contributed in so high a degree to carry the point aimed at, that all the petitioners considered themselves as principally indebted to his talents for their success.*' [Biograpbia Britanmca.j This instance of his abilities rendered him so conspicuous and popular, that he was put up as a member for London, without the smallest solicitation on his part, and chosen in the warmest contest ever known in that city. His parliamentary abilities were acknowledged by all; and by none more than by 6ir Robert Walpole, whose measures he almost uniformly opposed- To his talents as a speaker, he paid a due eulo-giuni. As he was riding out with a party, some persons were overheard talking on the other side of a narrow lane, the hedge of which < concealed them from view. One of the party saying, whose voice is that? sir Robert replied:do you not know ! it is one which I never shall forget. I have often felt its power. On meeting at the end of the lane, adds the biographer, sir Robert Walpole with that enchanting courtesy be possessed, saluting Mr. Barnard, told him what had passed. The minister frequently used to rally his sons who were praising the speeches of Ptiheney, Pitt, Littleton, and others, by saying you may cry up their speeches if you please, hut when I lmve auswered sir John Barnard, and lord Pol-warth, 1 think I have concluded the debate. In 17^8, he was chosen alderman, and in 1737, lord mayor of London. He represented the city of London five successive parliaments. In'l758, the infirmities of old age-increasing, he resigned his alderman’s gown; and ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ple in general, and the humour they happen to be in at the time. I wish bribery and corruption of all kind# could be prevented; but the evil I am afraid is inevitable: for notwithstanding the many express laws against it, notwithstanding the severe law made but a little while ago for preventing it, yet we find that methods have been contrived for evading all those laws, either by giving great entertainment and great plenty of victuals, or by some more secret and corrupt practices, so that the only way to prevent the growth of this evil, is to preserve the virtue of the people, and I believe the best way to preserve the virtue of the people is to give them as few opportunities aa risible for being vicious:from whence must conclude, that for obviating this, inconvenience, Septennial Parliaments are better than Triennial. If so many and so great inconveniences^ have been felt all over the nation from Septennial Parliaments, if so great complaints have been made, it is very strange Sir, that no attempt has been made, ever since the passing of that law, for the repeal of it; but the time now chosen for making that attempt, shews plainly with what view it is made: it is now the last session of a Parliament, a new election must soon come on, and as this motion has an appearance of popularity among the meaner sort of electors, it may be of service to some gentlemen at the next elections: and as to the contentions about these elections beginning so early, I do not know by whom they were begun, but I believe they 4531 Repeal of the Septennial AO* A.D. 1734. [454 have been Bet on foot on purpose to furnish eentlemen with arguments in this day's debate; and an honourable gentleman has accordingly taken hold of it, and has made use of those contentions so early begun, as an argument against Septennial Parliaments. Another honourable gentleman has given us a glorious catalogue, as he was pleased to caff it, of laws passed by Septennial Parliaments; but I think he ought in a particular manner to have guarded against putting the Riot Act into thatcatalogue, for he knows it was founded on the same motive with the Septennial. It was absolutely necessary for the safety of the government, and had it not been for some executions in Fleet-street, in consequence of that act, I am persuaded it would not have been possible to have preserved the peace of the kingdom at that time: and 1 must aay, that it is somewhat very strange to hear gentlemen arguing against contentions and riots at elections, and at the same time complaining of that law which was made for preventing of riots upon any occasion. As to the law for regulating trials in cases of treason, there was never a more reasonable law passed in parliament: is it not at all times absolutely inconsistent with the safety of the government: nay is it not in itself ridiculous, that rebels and traitors should be tried by a jury of their own friends and relations, embarked in the same wicked designs, and as much disaffected to the government as the prisoners at the bar? Can it be expected that such a jury will ever find the prisoners guilty ? And therefore when whole counties had rebelled, what could have been more reasonable, than the sending the rebels of those counties to be tried in other counties, where an honest and a disinterested jury might be found; and as that law was confined to the rebels then in custody, or such as should be taken within a short time after, I am surprised to hear it found fault with. We have been told, Sir, that the nation In general desires the repeal of the Septennial law, and that instructions have been sent up to several members for that purpose. As to the desires of the nation m general, it is a fact not easy to be determined; I do not know but the mob, I mean such as have no business with elections, may generally desire the repeal of this law, because they would then have an opportunity of getting drunk, committing riots, and living idly, much oftener than they have at prese ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Particular Man ['particular man']; Liberty of the Subject ['liberty of the subject']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) ['grievance']; Redresse (old spelling) ['redresse'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- on my country to be in the most melancholy situation. Perhaps it may be the way of thinking among those he keeps company with; but 1 thank God I have a better opinion of my countrymen; and since it appears to be a way of thinking among some gentlemen, it ‘ is high time for us to contrive some method of putting it out of their power to corrupt the virtue of the people; for we may depend upon this as a certain maxim, that those who think they cannot gain the affections of the people, will endeavour to purchase their prostitution; and the best way to prevent the success of their endeavours, is to raise the price so high as to put it out of the power of any man, or of any set of men to come up to it. If a parliament it to be purchased, if elections are to be purchased, it is manifest the corrupting of triennial must, upon the whole, cost a great deal more than the corrupting of septennial elections or parliaments: therefore, in order to put it out of the power of any man, or of any administration, to purchase the prostitution of a parliament or of the people, let us return to triennial parliaments; and if that will not do, let ua return to annual elections, which, I am very certain, would render the practice of corruption impossible. This, Sir, is now the more necessary, because of the many new posts and places of profit which the crown has at its disposal, and the great civil-list settled upon his present Majesty, and which will probably be continued to his successors. This, I say, urges the necessity for frequent new parliaments; because the crown has it now more in their power than formerly, to seduce the people, or the representatives of the people, in case any future administration should find it necessary for their own safety to do so. That the increase or decrease of corruption at elections, or in parliament, must always depend upon the increase or decrease of virtue among the people, I shall readily grant; but it is as certain, that the virtue of almost every particular man depends upon the temptations that are thrown in his way; ana according to the quantity of virtue he has, the quantity of temptation must be raised, so as at last to make it an overbalance for his virtue. Suppose then. Sir, that the generality of the electors in England have virtue enough to withstand a temptation of five guineas each, but not virtue enough to withstand a temptation of ten guineas, one with another. Is it not then much more probable, that the gentlemen who deal in corruption, may be able to raise as much money, once every seven years, as will be sufficient to give ten guineas each, one with another, to the generality of the electors, than that they will be able to raise such a sum once in every three years ? And is it not from thence certain, that the virtue of the eople in general is in greater danger of eing destroyed by Septennial than by Triennial parliaments ? To suppose, Sir, that every man’s vote at an election is like a commodity which must be sold at the market price, is really to suppose that no man has any virtue at all; for I will aver, 463] 7 GEORGE IL Debate on Bromley's Motion for the [40'i that when once a man resolves to sell his vote at any rate, he has then no virtue left, which, I hope is not the case with many of our electors; and therefore the only thing we are to apprehend is, lest so high a price should be offered as may tempt thousands to sell, who had never before any thoughts of carrying such a commodity to market. This, Sir, is the fatal event we are to dread, and it is much more to be dreaded from Septennial than from Triennial Parliaments, If we have therefore any desire to preserve the virtue of our people; if we have any desire to preserve our constitution; if we have any desire to preserve our liberties, our properties, and every1 thing that can be dear to a free people, we ought to restore the Triennial law; and if that be found to be insignificant, we ought to abolish prorogations, and return to annual elections. Hie learned gentleman spoke of the prerogative of the crown, and asked us, If it had lately been extended beyond those bounds prescribed to it by law. Sir, I will not say that there has been lately any attempts to extend it beyond the bounds prescribed by law; but I will say, that those bounds have been of late so vastly enlarged that there seems to be no great occasion for any such attempt. What are the many penal laws made within these forty years, but so many extensions of the prerogative of the crown, and as many diminutions of the liberty of the subject ? And whatever the necessity was that brought us into the enacting of such laws, it was a fatal necessity; it has greatly added to the power of the crown, and particular care ought to be taken not to throw any more weight into that scale. Perhaps the enacting of several of those penal laws might have been avoided; I am persuaded the enacting of the law relating to trials for treason, not only might, but ought to have been avoided, for though it was but a temporary law, it was a dangerous precedent; and the rebellion was so far fronr being general in any county as not to leave a sufficient number of faithful subjects for trying those who had committed acts of treason within the county. In former times the crown had a large estate of its own; an estate sufficient for supporting the dignity of the crown; and as we had no standing armies, nor any great fleets to provide for, the crown did not want frequent supplies; so that they were not under any necessity of calling frequent parliaments; and as parliaments were always troublesome, often dangerous to ministers, therefore they avoided the calling of any 'such as much as possible:but though the crown did not then want frequent supplies, the people frequently wanted a redress of grievances, which could not be obtained but by parliament; therefore the only complaint then was, that the crown did not call any parliament at all, or did not allow them to sit long enough; this was the only complaint, and to remedy this, it was thought sufficient to provide for having frequent parliaments, every one of which, it was presumed, was always to be a new parliament; for it is well known, that the method of prorogation was of old very rarely made use of, and was first introduced by those who were attempting to moke encroachments upon the rights of the people. But now. Sir, the case is altered; the crown, either by ill management, or by prodigality and profuseness to its favourites, has spent or granted away all that estate; and the public expence is 60 much enlarged, that the crown must have annual supplies, and is therefore under the necessity of having the parliament meet every year; but as new. elections are always dangerous as well as troublesome to ministers of state, they are for having them os seldom as possible; so that the complaint is hot now for want of frequent meetings or sessions of parliament, but against having the same parliament continued too long. This is the grievance now complained of; this is what the people desire; this is what they have a right to have redressed. The members of parliament may for one year be looked on as the real and true representatives of the people; but when a minister has seven years to practise upon them, and to feel their pulses, they may be induce to forget whose representatives they are; they may throw off’ all dependance upon their electors, and become dependants upon the crown, or rather upon the minister for the time being, which the learned gentleman has most ingenuously confessed to us, he thinks less dangerous than a dependance upon his electors. Wc have been told, Sir, in this House, that no faith is to be given to prophecies, therefore I shall not pretend to prophesy; but I may suppose a case, which, though it has not yet happened, may possibly happen. Let us then suppose. Sir, a man abandoned toallnotions of virtue or honour, of no great family, and of but a mean for * 4G3] Repeat of the Septennial A A.D. 4. [465 tune, raised tobe chief ministerof state, by the concurrence of many whimsical events; afraid or unwilling to trust any but creatures of his own making, and most of them equally abandoned to all notions of virtue or honour; ignorant of the true interest of his country, and consulting nothing but . that of enriching and aggrandizing himself and his favourites; in foreign atiairs trusting nonebut such whose education makes it impossible for them to have such knowledge or such qualifications as can either be of service to their country, or give any weight or credit to their negociations: Let us suppose the true interest of the nation by such means neglected or misunderstood, her honour and credit lost, her trade insulted, her merchants pi undered and her sailors murdered; and all these things overlooked, only for fear his administration should be endangered:Suppose him next possessed of great wealth, the plunder of the nation, with a parliament of his own chusing, most of their seats purchased, and their votes bought at the expence of the public treasure:In such a parliament, let ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Greivance / Greevance (archaic spellings) MATCH TEXT: 'grievance' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- istinguish between disaffection to his government, and disaffection to his minister. If the honourable gentleman thinks, that the affair which occasioned the rise of that spirit, was at first misrepresented, or that it gained any advantage by being fully explained, he is, in the opinion of, I believe, much the greatest part of the nation, vastly mistaken; for, the more seriously that affair has been considered, the more fully it has been explained, the more horrible it has appeared: so that the spirit, which was raised in opposition to it, was so far from being unjustly, or groundlessly raised, that I believe it would have been for the advantage of the nation, that a new election had come on, when that spirit was in its greatest vigour; and I hope it will not altogether subside, till the people have fully secured their liberties against all such attempts for the future. To imagine, Sir, that frequent elections should ever become the cause of faction and sedition, is, in my opinion, something very extraordinary; for it is certain, that seditions have always proceeded from a general discontent among the people, and a long disappointment of meeting in a legal way, with that redress which they had reason to expect; and till this discontent becomes violent as well as general, no faction will ever break out into sedition: then indeed faction begins to change its name, and those men, who at first perhaps with justice were charged with being 469] Repeal of the Septennial Act. A.D. 1734. [470 factious, become then the patrons and the protectors of the rights of the people, and of the liberties of their country; for nothing can be called faction, but when a set of men combine and unite together against a wise and a just government, which no government can be, that disobliges and irritates the generality of the people. The certain and the only way therefore of preventing sedition, and disappointing faction, is to give the people frequent opportunities of representing their grievances, and obtaining redress in that legal way which is prescribed by the constitution of their country. Such a way ought certainly to be established, and is established in every wise constitution; otherwise the people wifi seek that by sedition, which they find they cannot obtain by law; and the method which is established by our constitution, is by a parliament chosen by the free and uncorrupted voice of the people; therefore in order to avoid sedition, every thing ought to be carefully avoided, which may tend to the interrupting the free choice of the people; and the oftener this choice is made, the better our country is guarded against sedition; because in a long parliament the people may in the beginning of it be disobliged; they may despair of obtaining redress from that parliament, and before the end their discontents may become so violent, as to break out in seditions and insurrections. Faction and sedition, Sir, are two words that have always been made use of by the advocates for arbitrary power, in order to induce the people to give up those privileges upon which their liberties depended, or to divert them from reasauming, or vindicating those which had been before foolishly given up, or unjustly usurped and taken from them; but it is to be hoped, those two hideous words will never in this country have the desired effect. It has been already fully shewn, that the elections for a long parliament must always be attended with more violent heats and animosities than the election for a short, consequently the country must always be more exposed to factions and seditions by the former, than by the latter: 1 do not know, but the election for a parliament may come ait last to be like the election of a king of Poland; it may be always attended with a civil war, perhaps with an unwelcome visit from some of our neighbours. Therefore if the fears of faction and sedition be any argument against frequent elections, as good aa argument may from thence be drown against elec ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Liberty of the Subject MATCH TEXT: 'liberty of the subject' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- aise money by a loan, to that of impowering the crown by way of a vote or address, to raise money by any tax the crown shall, think fit to impose. As to the Mutiny-Bill, my Lords, I really did not take particular notice of the Bill last passed in this House: that Bill is now become so much a Bill of course, that I never once doubted its being in the same words with other Bills of that nature formerly passed in Parliament, and therefore I did not read it with that attention which I ought to have done; but I am sure that in some former Bills of the same nature, the number of forces to be kept up was mentioned to be so many, and no more:whether the words no more* be in the last Bill I cannot determine; but grant they are not, 1 am persuaded some lord of this House, or some member of the other would have taken notice of their having been left out, if it had not been thought that they must necessarily be understood: and 1 think every man has good reason to suppose, that no greater number of the subjects of England can be subjected to the martial-law than the number mentioned in that Bill, whether the words no more’ be added or not. It is certain that no part of the common law, much less Magna Charta, or any other express statute, can be repealed but by act of Parliament: I hope it will not be said that any one of the standing laws of England can be repealed by a vote or an address from botn Houses of Parliament, though I do not know indeed but even this doctrine may hereafter be insisted on as a natural consequence of the doctrine this day advanced in this House. However, my Lords, I hope we shall not this day advance so far in our new im- Erovements:and therefore it must be aimed, that no private man can be stript of those liberties and privileges which he enjoys by Magna Charta, and- many other statutes, without a new law made for that purpose; and I hope it will be granted, that whatever general words are in any statute, which are or may seem to be contrary to the liberty of the subject, .are always to be taken in the most confined sense; they cannot be so much as ex- plained, much less extended, by a vote, or by an address of either or of both Houses of Parliament. It will likewise, I hope, be granted, that all those who are by the Mutiny-Bill subjected to the martial-law, are thereby stript of a great many of those liberties and pnvi leges which they are in* titled to as subjects of England; and there* fore if there are any general words in that Bill, for subjecting all those to the martial-law who shall thereafter inlist in his Majesty’s service; these general words must refer to the particular number of men mentioned in the Bill, and when that number is complete, no man that lists thereafter can be subjected to the martial-law either by a vote or an address; there must be a new Bill for that purpose, otherwise there is not a man in the kingdom but may be stript of most of the valuable privileges he enjoys as a subject of England, by a single vote in Parliament; for if we can by a vote or an address, impower his Majesty to raise as many land forces as he pleases, and subject all the forces so raised to the military-law, we certainly can, by the same method impower the crown to impress men into the service; and if such a vote should be assed, what man in the nation could say e had an hour’s certainty of enjoyingthose liberties and privileges he is intitlea to as a subject of England. My Lords; Till this day it has always been held for an undoubted truth, that the consent of parliament cannot be obtained any other way than by a Bill brought into either House of Parliament, and regularly passed through both: By the custom of parliament tins Bill must be twice read, then committed, and then read a third time in each House of Parliament, before it can be presented to the king for his consent; and then at last it must have the royal assent before it can be looked on as a law of this kingdom, or as a regulation to which the parliament has given its ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Antient Liberties MATCH TEXT: 'antient libert' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- es... 19 101 #8 Protest against the King's being »*t- 559] 7 GEORGE II. Debate in the Lords on the King’s Message [560 powered to augment his Forces by Sea and Land, during the Recess of Parliament.'] u Dissentient * " Because we are of opinion, that no free people should on any occasion whatever, vest in any person an unlimited power for an indefinite time; and whenever they do, they at the same time resign their liberty.----(Signed) Abingdon, Cobham, Bristol, Marchmont, Burlington, Litchfield, Willoughby de Broke, Gower, Clinton, Northampton, Strafford, Aylesford, Bathurst, Chesterfield, Carteret, Berkshire, Oxford and Mortimer, Montrose, Weymouth, Shaftsbury, Graham, Boyle, Stair, Ker, Coventry, Mont-joy, Foley, Thanet, Bedford, Tweedale, Cardigan, Craven, Winchelsea and Nottingham. * " Dissentient ’ 1. " Because we conceive an address of tfiis kind, impowering the crown to raise men and money, without specifying the numbers or the sum, is unwarranted by any precedent, and is of the most dangerous consequence, for it seems to us totally to subvert ttie very foundation of our constitution, the wisdom of our ancestors having provided many regular steps and solemn forms, for granting supplies to the crown; whereas this new method of a sudden address upon a message, at once frustrates and eludes all those wise and ancient precautions. 2. "Because the history of several countries, formerly free, furnishes us with many fetal examples of the abuse of such unlimited powers, whenever the estates of those countries have transferred the legislative authority, of raising money, from themselves, by an ill-placed confidence, into the hands of a few. The Cortes of Spain, by trusting the power of raising money, without their being assembled, though for but one year, and the estates of France, by allowing the aids for the defence of that kingdom, to be raised for three or four years together, without their being summoned to meet, have never been able to retrieve their antient liberties and constitution; but by their weak compliance with such a fatal measure, were the unhappy instruments of rendering themselves useless, and of enslaving then: respective countries. 3. " Because, though we have all possible confidence in his Majesty’s wisdom and justice, and all imaginable zeal for the 4 honour and support of his person and government, we cannot approve of a Message, which, we are persuaded, was both formed and advised by the same ministers, in whom those extensive and discretionary powers are lodged by this Address; and we see no reason, from any experience of their ceconomy, to trust them with the arbitrary disposal of an unlimited sum; and as little reason, from the success of their former alliances, to give any approbation to past treaties, which have never been communicated to this House, or a previous sanction of any future treaties they shall contract: especially since, by their multiplicity of negociations, they have involved the nation in engagements with divers foreign powers, inconsistent, as we conceive, with one another; and, in so great a variety, as we can by no means be sure that the best will be singled out to be fulfilled. 4. " Because the present unfortunate situation of the affairs of Europe cannot be represented as unforeseen, or unexpected; since, from the gradual progress of our negotiations for some years last past, the gradual increase of the disorders and confusions in Europe has constantly been foretold. We therefore conceive, that had there not been some secret reason for proceeding in this manner, which reason we will rather pass over in silence than attempt to point out, the necessary demands of men and money would have been laid before the parliament at the beginning of the session, according to the ancient and regular usage, and which would as certainly have been granted by a parliament, which has distinguished itself by arenuuck-able zeal, duty and liberality to the throne. 5. " We cannot think it prudent, in ================================================================================ ================================================================================ SOURCE: Cobbett_Parliamentary_History.zip FILE: Cobbett-Parl-History-v9.txt MATCHED TERM: Particular Man MATCH TEXT: 'particular man' ALL MATCHES IN WINDOW: Particular Man ['particular man']; Particular Man ['particular man'] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- corruption and tyranny would be entailed upon this nation, in the most dangerous manner, by the sanction of parliament'. 8. " Because blending inconsistent matters of this nature, as we conceive, in a money-bill, lays this House under the utmost difficulties, since the delays occasioned by any alterations made in this House to some parts of a money-bill, may be unavoidable obstructions to other parts of it, that require expedition and dispatch. 9. " Because the extending of this un- precedented power to the 24thof December next, is a length of time beyond what was ever known, as we apprehend, in any case, and is, in our opinion, not only dangerous but unnecessary: for the chief pretence for the vote, was to have power during ♦the interval of parliament, which may be chosen and meet much sooner, if it shall be thought convenient, after so extensive a power is lodged in the hands of the ministers for so long a term.----(Signed) Denbigh, Litchfield, Coventry, Northampton, Winchelsea and Nottingham, Clinton, Montjoy, Craven, Bathurst, Weymouth, Montrose, Stair, Strafford, Thanet, Marlborough, Carteret, Oxford and Mortimer, Tweedale, Gower, Masham, Kcr." The King's Speech at the Close of the jSemon.] April 16. The King came to the House of Peers, and put an end to the session with the following Speech: " My Lords and Gentlemen, u I give you my hearty thanks for the great dispatch you have given to the public business, and for the confidence you have reposed in me for the honour and security of my kingdom. So short a session, at so critical and important a conjuncture, concluded with so much unanimity, and so just a regard for the true interest of the nation, will give great weight and credit to all our public transactions, and procure that respect and dependance upon the great council of this nation, which are sa necessary to support the honour and interest of Great-Britain both at home and abroad. " Gentlemen of the House of Commons, " I must acknowledge in a particular manner the zeal and readiness which you have shewn in raising in so effectual a manner, the necessary supplies for the service of the year: the provision you have made for paying off great part or the debt of the navy, a debt necessarily and unavoidably incurred, and carrying a higher interest than the old national debt, and which, being at a discount, increased the charge and expence in all contracts of the navy and victualling, must certainly be thought of singular service to the public. " My Lords and Gentlemen, * The time limited for the expiration of this parliament drawing near, I have resolved forthwith to issue my proclamation for the dissolving of it, and for calling a new parliament, that the inconveniencies unavoidably attending a general election, may be put an end to as soon as possible; but I should think myself inexcusable, if I parted with this parliament without doing them the justice to acknowledge the many signal proofs they have given, through the course of seven years, of their duty, fidelity, and attachment to my person and government, and their constant regard to the true interest of their country. * The prosperity and glory of my reign depend upon the affections and happiness of my people, and the happiness of my people upon my preserving to them all their legal rights and privileges, as established under the present settlement of the crown in the Protestant line. A due execution and strict observance of the laws, are the best and only security both to sovereign and subject; their interest is mutual and inseparable, and therefore their endeavours for the support of each other ought to be equal and reciprocal; any infringement or incroachment upon the rights of either is a diminution of the strength of both, which kept within their due bounds and limits, mdke that just balance, which is necessary for the honour and dignity of the crown, and for the protection ana prosperity of the people. What depends upon me, shall, on my part, be religiously kept and observed, and I make no doubt of receiving the just returns of duty and gratitude from them. " I must in a particular manner recommend it to you, and from your known af- 071 7 GEORGE IL Principal Occurrences during the . [009 lection do expect, that you will use your best endeavours to heal the unhappy divisions of the nation, and to reconcile the minds of all, who truly and sincerely wish the safety and welfare of the kingdom. It would be the greatest satisfaction to me to see a perfect harmony restored amorgst them that have one and the same principle at heart, that there might be no distinction, but of such as mean the support of our present happy constitution in church and state, and such as wish to subvert both. This is the only distinction that ought to prevail in this country, where the interest of king and people is one and the' same, and where they cuunot subsist but by being so. If religion, liberty, and property, were never at any time more fully enjoyed, without not only any attempt, but even the shadow of a design, to alter and invade them, let not these sacred names be made use of, as artful and plausible pretences to undermine the present establishment, under which alone they can be safe. " I have nothing to wish but that my people may not be misguided; I appeal to their own consciences for my conduct, and hope the providence of God will direct them in the choice of such representatives, as are most fit to be trusted with the care and preservation of the Protestant religion, the present establishment, and all the religious and civil rights of Great-Britain." After which the Lord Chancellor, by his Majesty’s command, prorogued the parliament to the 14th of May; but on the 18th of April, a proclamation was issued for their dissolution, and for the calling a new parliament. Principal Occurrences during the Recess. — The Parliament dissolved — The Elections through the Nation go for the Court — Account